[12:14] <_kuja_> It looks like the setting would be in systemsettings -> regional & language -> Keyboard Layout -> XKB Options
[12:17] <ergoproxy> anyone know where i can get the lament screensaver?
[12:18] <cloakable> Does anyone know the current status of the Ralink 2500 in Edgy?
[12:18] <re-align> It should work
[12:19] <re-align> I have a card using the RT-2500 and it's been working since Dapper for me.
[12:19] <cloakable> re-align: WPA?
[12:20] <re-align> Dunno, I don't use WPA. There's probably a wqay to get it working but I haven't pursued it.
[12:21] <aerius> helooooo (im bak with my vmwareplayer probleme :s)
[12:22] <cloakable> Anyone use RT-2500 wireless with WPA under Edgy?
[12:22] <_kuja_> wb aerius
[12:22] <Angrataf> at #kubuntu-de, there is abot! oO !!!111one1
[12:23] <Angrataf> xD
[12:25] <wirelexh> hola
[12:25] <BluesKaj> jackeq crashes when launched ...searched for a fix but the forums don't have much in that area
[12:26] <wirelexh_> hi
[12:26] <londo4> How to install aMule?
[12:26] <wirelexh_> what is spanish server, please?
[12:26] <BluesKaj> !es
[12:26] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:26] <unix_infidel> BluesKaj: why are you using jackeq?
[12:27] <wirelexh_> gracias
[12:27] <BluesKaj> for audio source config
[12:27] <wirelexh_> londo4 try use synaptic
[12:27] <unix_infidel> BluesKaj: there should be some verbose flags you can use at jackeq launch that you can google for.
[12:28] <unix_infidel> things like ardour usually work fine with just standard jack.
[12:29] <BluesKaj> I need it since the audio in my TV Wonder card is missing ...have to use a seperate audio input and jackeq will help integrate it with the video feed so i can record both as an integrated signal onto the hdd then to advd
[12:29] <londo4> wirelexh_: Ok
[12:29] <wirelexh_> thankyou very much!
[12:30] <wirelexh_> i use this mode, but yesterday and last week amule no run
[12:30] <unix_infidel> BluesKaj: that's a terrible hack man.
[12:30] <BluesKaj> I already searched google for a fix ...google is become quite useless at interpreting problems
[12:30] <unix_infidel> like i said, you should try and get some more verbose output from the application
[12:30] <BluesKaj> what's that mean?
[12:31] <wirelexh_> i try reinstall it but it isn't repaired
[12:31] <unix_infidel> BluesKaj: people who code software usually create mechanisms for the user to troubleshoot.
[12:31] <BluesKaj> verebose output
[12:31] <unix_infidel> for instance, on fluxbox, i can use fluxbox logs to troubleshoot my problems.
[12:31] <re-align> _kuja_, tried several settings in the areas you mentioned, no effect.
[12:31] <wirelexh_> londo4 i don't know very much info
[12:32] <BluesKaj> well trhat's you , i would n't now what i was looking at anyway :)
[12:32] <unix_infidel> jackeq looks really cool though, multiple io channels...
[12:32] <wirelexh_> good night!
[12:32] <unix_infidel> BluesKaj: like i said, using jackeq is a terrible hack for getting that card to process audio, get better hardware :)
[12:32] <_kuja_> re-align, if such a setting exists, that would probably have been the place to set it, it might take logging out and logging back in to take full effect, I'm not sure.
[12:32] <BluesKaj> exactly...if i could just get it to launch
[12:33] <re-align> Well I'll have to double check leter then, no time for logging in/out right now.
[12:34] <BluesKaj> apparently jackeq is the thing to use  as reasonable workaround
[12:37] <smub-linux> smubs' back again, how to install invidia card?
[12:43] <ubuntu_> Ok, I need help. I really screwed up windows somehow.
[12:43] <smub-linux> wow, hello
[12:44] <dragonfly7> Ok.
[12:44] <dragonfly7> So I was trying to install kubuntu, but the installation froze halfway through.
[12:44] <aerius> okeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeay thhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinks guuuuuuuuuys my vmware is working :)
[12:44] <nyt> :-o
[12:44] <nyt> waaaaaaaaaa
[12:45] <nyt> do you all sleep?
[12:45] <dragonfly7> When I tried to boot back to windows, I got an error saying that it could not find /system32/hal.dll
[12:45] <aerius> :)
[12:45] <aerius> im gowing to sleep now ;
[12:45] <nyt> :D
[12:45] <dragonfly7> I know how to fix it if I have a Windows startup disk, but I need one.
[12:45] <nyt> i think some o you are 24 hrs online :D
[12:45] <smub-linux> i tried that, just turn the pc off and try again
[12:46] <smub-linux> i had to do it at least 5 times
[12:46] <dragonfly7> So how can I make a MS-DOS startup disk from the Kubuntu live CD?
[12:46] <smub-linux> dont know
[12:47] <smub-linux> ask the guru's
[12:47] <dragonfly7> Does anyone know? I have no way of repairing Windows without it. I am in need of help.
[12:47] <dragonfly7> Where can I find the gurus?
[12:48] <smub-linux> here, ask the question.
[12:49] <dragonfly7> How can I create a MS-DOS boot disk (floppy or CD) from a Kubuntu live CD?
[12:49] <nyt> i'll be back ! i have work to finish
[12:49] <nyt> se yah
[12:49] <nyt> ;)
[12:50] <helge> Is it possible at all?
[12:50] <smub-linux> reboot from c:\  -
[12:50] <dragonfly7> I do not know if it is possible, but I need someway to repair boot.ini on windows.
[12:50] <smub-linux> take the disk out
[12:52] <_kuja_> nyt, caffeine works wonders :D
[12:52] <_kuja_> or wait, nyt left, oops
[12:52] <dragonfly7> reboot from c;\? How do I do that. When I try to boot to windows I get an error saying that "/system32/hal.dll" cannot be found. I think this is cause by Kubuntu breaking the boot.ini on Windows."
[12:53] <smub-linux> ok try to reboot windoze then, if you get stuck come back here.
[12:53] <BluesKaj> kubuntu sets a grunb bootloader for both windows and kubuntu partitions
[12:53] <BluesKaj> grub
[12:54] <smub-linux> IGrubs ok
[12:54] <dragonfly7> I have tried several times. The problem is that my liveCD somehow stopped the install halfway through.
[12:54] <dragonfly7> So GRUB is not installed.
[12:55] <smub-linux> mine did the same lat night
[12:55] <dragonfly7> All I need is a MS-DOS boot disk, but the only way to make those is through windows.
[12:55] <smub-linux> I just kept at it
[12:55] <_kuja_> perhaps the live cd is corrupted or something? that can cause installs to fail midway
[12:55] <smub-linux> Nope, cant be both corrupted
[12:56] <dragonfly7> _kuja_: Perhaps, but thats not the point now. I need to somehow boot to windows so I can create a boot disk to fix windows.
[12:56] <_kuja_> do you have the windows install cd? It can probably repair the file for you
[12:56] <smub-linux> you have it wokng now!
[12:57] <dragonfly7> I do not have the CD. Dell shipped the PC without one. I am running off the live cd, but it cannot install correctly.
[12:57] <smub-linux> no, windows is fine
[12:57] <helge> Could this help? http://www.bootdisk.com/
[12:57] <smub-linux>  WINDOZE IS FINE,, Just lurking
[12:58] <Dasnipa> lurking, or trolling?
[12:58] <smub-linux> So turn tyour PC off and start it then.. BE QUICK and select WINDOWS
[12:59] <dragonfly7> Ok, I will try the boot disk.
[12:59] <dragonfly7> smub-linux: It is not a problem with grub, it is a problem with windows.
[12:59] <smub-linux> if it fails linux will boot
[01:00] <dragonfly7> Linux did not install.
[01:00] <smub-linux> Thats what I think
[01:00] <dragonfly7> So how do I format a floppy in Kubuntu, so that I can try that site that helge gave me.
[01:01] <helge> YOu could use a livelinux cd like slax or something
[01:02] <helge> The gets you up and running and you can have a look around
[01:02] <dragonfly7> With slax, could I edit the boot.ini on the windows partition?
[01:02] <helge> Sure (I think)
[01:02] <livingdaylight> is it an Edgy thing? I used to play my .MOV  clips in Ubuntu but since Edgy the sound is monstrous and horrendous, any ideas anyone?
[01:02] <dragonfly7> helge: You can edit NTFS from slax?
[01:02] <helge> Naaah, dont think so
[01:03] <helge> NTFS is not that good on linux
[01:03] <dragonfly7> Ok. So how do I get Kubuntu to recognize a floppy, so that I can try a disk from that site you gave me.
[01:03] <helge> Many live cds out there maybe shop around for a "rescue distro"
[01:04] <helge> That is an mainboard issue about the floppy I guess
[01:04] <helge> Are you thinking about booting from it or saving into it?
[01:05] <dragonfly7> I want to create a MS-DOS boot floppy from this kubuntu live cd, so that I can use it to start DOS, so I can fix the boot.ini file.
[01:05] <helge> Well I say that kubuntu will recognize your floppy at once
[01:06] <helge> No?
[01:06] <dragonfly7> helge: No. Maybe it is formated strangly? I will look for another.
[01:06] <helge> I sure never tried, but that would be my guess
[01:07] <smub-linux> I have not tried Kubuntu to read my floppy yet,
[01:07] <dragonfly7> Hmm.. thats not working either.
[01:08] <smub-linux> waaait 1
[01:08] <dragonfly7> ?
[01:08] <helge> SO if you insert a floppy, you can not read it?
[01:08] <dragonfly7> Correct.
[01:09] <helge> Never thought of that, hold your horses
[01:09] <dragonfly7> And I need to write to it, to copy "XP Quick Boot Diskette" to it. From that website you gave me.
[01:10] <helge> You should open "storage media" where the drives are, then you should see the floppy there, no?
[01:11] <smub-linux> I was just looking for a 1.44Mb  disk to play with
[01:11] <smub-linux> hda?
[01:12] <dragonfly7> I am not sure. It is a floppy disk...
[01:12] <smub-linux> hda1  the.... guess
[01:12] <smub-linux> like a drive
[01:13] <mohammed> when I come to set my picture it says '' your administrator has disallowed changing your image'' ?
[01:13] <dragonfly7> Ok. If you say so... I am trying to find a rescue distro that can write to NTFS.
[01:13] <Lrrr> faLUCE: Could you register to nickserv please?
[01:14] <faLUCE> lrrr which is the procedure?
[01:14] <smub-linux> what are you ttring to do ?
[01:14] <Lrrr> faLUCE: let me point you to the page
[01:14] <faLUCE> ok
[01:15] <Lrrr> faLUCE: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[01:15] <dragonfly7> smub-linux: Basiccly, I am trying to repair a boot.ini file on a NTFS partition.
[01:15] <faLUCE> ok wait a sec
[01:15] <metatecque> Ok, Here is a legit question that I think has a simple answer - Why when I run "lspci -v" all of my hardware shows that it is only available to root
[01:16] <helge> Since when was it possible to install linux on an ntfs partition?
[01:16] <Lrrr> faLUCE: then we'll discuss emacs on more practical grounds.
[01:16] <LordOliver> I have to transfer files from my fat32 partion in to external device and then move them to my ext3 partion?
[01:16] <dragonfly7> helge: I do not want to install it.
[01:16] <helge> just rescue?
[01:17] <dragonfly7> I broke windows XP, and I need to modify the boot.ini file.
[01:17] <dragonfly7> So that I can boot into it again.
[01:17] <livingdaylight> is Kontact also a newsreader?
[01:17] <helge> OK, I got it, I thougt you would want a dual boot
[01:18] <dragonfly7> helge: I do want to dual boot, but right now I just want to fix windows, so that my mother will not kill me. :)
[01:18] <helge> You can write to NTFS, but I read somewhere that it is experimental , I believe I read that on the ubuntu forum
[01:18] <livingdaylight> I'm getting Library files for "libknodepart.la" not found in paths." when i click on News in Kontact
[01:18] <unix_infidel> dragonfly7: what are you trying to do again?
[01:18] <unix_infidel> and what did linux do to your win partition?
[01:18] <helge> Too late for abortition now, She wont kill you
[01:19] <dragonfly7> I need a LiveCD distro that can write to NTFS so that I can modify a boot.ini file on a windows patition, so that I can boot to windows again. Alternativly, I need some way to create a MS-DOS boot diskette, so that I can repair it that way.
[01:19] <unix_infidel> dragonfly7: why cant you boot into windows?
[01:20] <_kuja_> Could you use something like freedos effectively instead dragonfly?
[01:20] <helge> You dont have the windows cd?
[01:20] <dragonfly7> unix_infidel: Somewhere in the process of resizing the partition and trying to install kubuntu, the boo.ini file of windows got courupted.
[01:20] <dragonfly7> I do not have a windows cd, since dell didn't give me one.
[01:20] <helge> That is a major problem for you!
[01:21] <dragonfly7> And now when I try to boot windows, it says that it cannot find hal.dll, probably because boot.ini was corupted.
[01:21] <helge> They couldnt pend a penny on giving you a cd
[01:21] <unix_infidel> dragonfly7: ok, simple then: rescue and recovery cd, knoppix has captive ntfs support, or you can use bartpe
[01:21] <dragonfly7> So if I could make a MS-DOS floppy, that would work, but now kubuntu wont mount a floppy.
[01:21] <dragonfly7> knoppix can write to ntfs?
[01:21] <Kr4t05> dragonfly7: You don't have a second PC?
[01:22] <helge> You have a friend? With a computer?
[01:22] <dragonfly7> I do not have a second PC, but I may be able to get someone else.
[01:23] <dragonfly7> If knoppix can write to NTFS, I will try getting that, and changing boot.ini.
[01:23] <dragonfly7> Does anyone know where it would be located? system32?
[01:23] <helge> Try google for knoppix and rescue
[01:23] <unix_infidel> dragonfly7: bartpe is a really decent alternative.
[01:23] <helge> But what I would do: Go inn with a live cd, rescue important stuff (pictures etc) , and start all over again
[01:24] <dragonfly7> Can bartpe be downloaded, or do I need something special to use it? I thought you needed a windows cd.
[01:24] <dragonfly7> And is there an english version of knoppix?
[01:24] <unix_infidel> dragonfly7: back up everything, and just re-install from scratch, i wouldnt trust a corrupted system.
[01:24] <dragonfly7> I do not have a Windows CD.
[01:24] <helge> this dell have a burner? right?
[01:25] <unix_infidel> your mom WILL kill you when her system starts crashing as she's just finishing up her taxes.
[01:25] <dragonfly7> my mom will KILL ME if XP is not back how she left it by the end of tonight.
[01:25] <helge> RIP
[01:26] <dragonfly7> :( I am trying knoppix
[01:26] <Admiral_Chicago> dragonfly7: good knowing you
[01:26] <unix_infidel> http://rhadimas.wordpress.com/2006/10/15/fix-the-windows-bootini-file-with-knoppix2/
[01:26] <helge> I think you find it in english
[01:26] <dragonfly7> Wait... If I am on a live cd, how can I download knoppix? I think I will run out of RAM.
[01:26] <unix_infidel> dragonfly7: that should get you more than started.
[01:27] <unix_infidel> dragonfly7: heh, get a second computer.
[01:27] <helge> Good!
[01:27] <unix_infidel> mount a physical drive and put it on there.
[01:27] <dragonfly7> unix_infidel: Thank you for that link.
[01:28] <helge> Long live hte infidels
[01:28] <helge> Long live the infidels
[01:28] <dragonfly7> unix_infidel: Let me try to mount a physical drive...
[01:29] <dragonfly7> Ok, I am not seeing any physical drives...
[01:29] <dragonfly7> This is scary.
[01:29] <unix_infidel> lol.
[01:29] <dragonfly7> I don't think I have any non-NTFS partitions on there.
[01:30] <dragonfly7> The knoppix download is at 14%. please work.
[01:30] <unix_infidel> well if you have fat32 or free space.
[01:30] <unix_infidel> dragonfly7: it wont, you'll run out of ramdisk soon.
[01:30] <dragonfly7> Maybe I will have to use GParted to make some Fat32 space.
[01:30] <unix_infidel> 1st thing you should do is create a backup partition for all the stuff you should've backed.
[01:31] <unix_infidel> then start working to rescue.
[01:31] <unix_infidel> if worse comes to worse, you can always find a friend with a temporary windows license.
[01:31] <dragonfly7> Ok. I will boot to gparted now. i will be soon. prays.
[01:32] <unix_infidel> Or make the Luna theme for KDE REALLY REALLY convincing.
[01:32] <dragonfly7> unix_infidel: omg, I might have to try that.
[01:32] <dragonfly7> anyway, see you all on the other side.
[01:32] <helge> Best of luck
[01:32] <unix_infidel> Yes, the side of competence, those of us that back-up our data.
[01:33] <helge> Backup is king!
[01:34] <helge> Installing linux on his mommys computer with no backup
[01:37] <seishinbyou> backup is life
[01:37] <seishinbyou> how long should a hard disk last "in practice" anyways?
[01:38] <zibrah3ed> they are rated in hours of operation
[01:38] <zibrah3ed> look up the specs on your hd
[01:39] <helge> But there are many good online solutions today, say Google and Yahoo
[01:40] <helge> For keeping picutres and documents and stuff
[01:41] <Kr4t05> seishinbyou: Depends on usable.
[01:41] <Kr4t05> If you have a PC on 24/7, I'd expect about 4 years.
[01:41] <seishinbyou> Well, this 80GB Fujitsu in my laptop is already making funny clicks and pausing, and it isn't a year old
[01:41] <Kr4t05> seishinbyou: Defect. :P
[01:41] <peanutb> how do i get kubuntu to forget it has hibernated?
[01:42] <seishinbyou> Yeah, but I tend to go through HDD like water; I wondered if all JP HDDs were build to be used once and thrown away
[01:42] <Jucato> disposable HDD's..
[01:45] <Kr4t05> BRB
[01:49] <dragonfly7> Ok, GPartEd LiveCD is magic. I resized the windows partition and it worked.
[01:50] <dragonfly7> Everything is back to normal. Thank you so much everyone who helped.
[01:50] <dragonfly7> I have to get off now and pretend nothing happened before she gets home.
[01:50] <helge> u welcome
[01:50] <dragonfly7> Again, thanks for you help.
[01:52] <Launchpad-Lap> anyone here run wine?
[01:53] <seishinbyou> yes, wine is good
[01:54] <Launchpad-Lap> im still trying to understand linux
[01:54] <seishinbyou> the latest builds didn't seem to work on Edgy for some reason; I'm still on 0.9.22
[01:54] <seishinbyou> Welcome to your understanding of Linux
[01:54] <Launchpad-Lap> how do i get to root?
[01:54] <helge> WIne wont help you understand things
[01:55] <Launchpad-Lap> nm
[01:55] <Launchpad-Lap> crap
[01:55] <seishinbyou> wine is the escapists path
[01:55] <Launchpad-Lap> lol
[01:55] <seishinbyou> well, sometimes you might want to run Diablo 2 or Starcraft or Paint Shop Pro
[01:55] <Launchpad-Lap> well i want to get ntfs-3g to run but im not that advance
[01:55] <Launchpad-Lap> starcraft for zee win!!
[01:56] <Launchpad-Lap> crap i cant get into su
[01:56] <livingdaylight> can someone help me with my .MOV's?
[01:56] <seishinbyou> sudo su -
[01:56] <Jucato> !sudo Launchpad-Lap
[01:56] <ubotu> sudo: Provide limited super user privileges to specific users. In component main, is important. Version 1.6.8p12-4ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 161 kB, installed size 396 kB
[01:56] <livingdaylight> this used to just work in Ubuntu but not anymore for some reason
[01:56] <helge> Livingdaylight: whats up with the .mov?
[01:56] <Launchpad-Lap> ty verymuch
[01:56] <livingdaylight> helge: dude, no idea! it just used to work but not anymore
[01:56] <Launchpad-Lap> so how do u get to root then?\
[01:57] <helge> Tried automatix?
[01:57] <seishinbyou> "sudo su -"
[01:57] <Jucato> !sudo | Launchpad-Lap
[01:57] <ubotu> Launchpad-Lap: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:57] <livingdaylight> helge: i got a Minolta Dimage F200 which is a digital camera which also allows me to take video clips
[01:57] <Launchpad-Lap> but its limited as said before
[01:57] <livingdaylight> helge: i upload them via usb and just click on them to play 'em back
[01:57] <seishinbyou> sudo su - lets you become root
[01:57] <Launchpad-Lap> oo
[01:57] <hastesaver> seishinbyou, usually, "sudo -i" is recommended.
[01:57] <livingdaylight> helge: but now i get a HORRIBLE sound come out i just have to close it
[01:58] <helge> you should try automatix, and install mediaplayers with codecs
[01:58] <livingdaylight> helge: dude, what has Automatix got to do with it?
[01:58] <livingdaylight> !automatix
[01:58] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:58] <Launchpad-Lap> :( i miss the rpm packages..
[01:58] <helge> Ahem, well I dont recommend automatix any longer
[01:58] <Launchpad-Lap> just double click and volia its installed
[01:58] <livingdaylight> helge: you should be ashamed of yourself recommenditn automatix :D
[01:59] <Launchpad-Lap> lool
[01:59] <helge> But hey, this is what I did! I have a sony phone and I uploaded my videos to mytube, let them fix it
[02:00] <livingdaylight> i wanna know why they used to run in ubuntu but don't anymore
[02:00] <Jucato> Launchpad-Lap: to install a .deb package, just right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package
[02:00] <helge> So now I watch my phone videos with strange codec on mytube
[02:00] <livingdaylight> is there something weird with Edgy?
[02:00] <Launchpad-Lap> kewl thanks
[02:00] <Launchpad-Lap> does anyone here own a copy of the ubuntu offical thing book?
[02:01] <livingdaylight> Launchpad-Lap: yea, i do
[02:01] <Launchpad-Lap> living is it worth getting?
[02:01] <Launchpad-Lap> cause i realy wanna learn ubuntu
[02:01] <livingdaylight> Launchpad-Lap: i got it just to support the boys at Canonical
[02:01] <Launchpad-Lap> ooo so it is a good helper?
[02:01] <livingdaylight> Launchpad-Lap: its got a nice forward by Mark shuttleworth endorsing it an dgiving some historical background to Ubuntu
[02:02] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, are you sure the problem is with .movs in general and not just the ones that your camera uploads?
[02:02] <Launchpad-Lap> grr i forgoten most of my linux class
[02:02] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, did you try playing other mov files?
[02:02] <Launchpad-Lap> where would i put my wine folder?
[02:02] <livingdaylight> hastesaver: no, i don't know if it is just my camera or not
[02:02] <Launchpad-Lap> it says top folder
[02:02] <Jucato> Launchpad-Lap: ~/.wine folder is automatically created when you install Wine (at least it should be)
[02:02] <livingdaylight> hastesaver: but i do know  that it used to play back my .movs from my digital camera and now it doesn't
[02:02] <Launchpad-Lap> but i cant put it there
[02:02] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, try that first. (try getting other mov files...)
[02:03] <livingdaylight> hastesaver: wouldn't kno w how to, and besides it is my camera .movs that i want to be able to play back
[02:04] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I'm trying to get an SD card reader to work on my system.  It is labelled "Alcor Micro Corp. SD Reader" and it looks like it was picked up by my system.  I tried mounting it using "mount /dev/sda /media/sda1" but it says the usual "must specify the filesystem type".  Any ideas?
[02:05] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, yes, but a general tactic for debugging is to isolate the problem first. Only after it is determined where exactly the problem lies can one try solving it. I realise that the ultimate requirement is to be able to play your camera files, but first it is necessary to find out what's wrong. Don't you think so?
[02:05] <havoc> does kubuntu have a disk partitioner similar to mandrake's diskdrake ?
[02:05] <havoc> i.e. something that will show me what drives are detected?
[02:06] <helge> Havoc; system settings, disk and file system (log in)
[02:06] <havoc> ok, lemme run in the other room and check ....
[02:07] <livingdaylight> hastesaver: ok, ok, i know it used to work in Dapper and now in Edgy it doesn't, but ok, i'll google for some .mov's and narrow it down for you that way, and then we'll see why it isn't playing it from my camera
[02:08] <londo4> how  to edit /etc/sources.list?
[02:08] <helge> Try google that londo
[02:08] <helge> And add kubuntu
[02:08] <Admiral_Chicago> londo4: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:09] <metatecque> londo4: ctrl-O saves and ctrl-X exits
[02:09] <londo4> ok
[02:10] <LordOliver> can anyone give me a hint to where java 5 sdk installs to?
[02:11] <Jucato> LordOliver: to set Sun Java as the default java, run this command in Konsole: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[02:11] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, actually, I'm not using Edgy right now :-) So I'm afraid I can't help. Just make sure you have all the codecs installed (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats).
[02:12] <LordOliver> Jucato: that is not my issue I would like to install certain IDE(s) and I need to know where the sdk is installed to, to install the IDE
[02:13] <livingdaylight> hastesaver: i've got all the codecs installed - naturally - thank you
[02:14] <[Goce] >  How do you get videos like music videos to play under FireFox web browser?
[02:14] <livingdaylight> hastesaver: what would be great is if you could track down some .mov file formats for me to test. I'm just finding .wmv and so forth
[02:16] <[Goce] >  I've tried searching the web for help with no luck at all.
[02:16] <LordOliver> may SUN burn in Hell!
[02:17] <Telroth_Plushie|> linuxwizard,
[02:17] <Telroth_Plushie|> err
[02:17] <Telroth_Plushie|> LordOliver,
[02:17] <helge> http://www.google.no/search?hl=en&rls=GGGL%2CGGGL%3A2006-42%2CGGGL%3Ano&q=1.mov&btnG=Search
[02:17] <helge> about .mov
[02:17] <Telroth_Plushie|> /usr/lib/jvm/sun-java5.0-jdk what you are looking for?
[02:17] <Telroth_Plushie|> err
[02:17] <havoc> helge: nice but it doesn't let me partition, unless I'm missing something
[02:17] <LordOliver> let me try that, I think I did
[02:18] <Telroth_Plushie|> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun
[02:18] <Telroth_Plushie|> that's where apt-get install sun-java5-jdk installed to.
[02:19] <LordOliver> thanks
[02:19] <helge> havoc: Ill be back
[02:19] <Launchpad-Lap> grr gotta clean my laser drum
[02:19] <havoc> I need to partition a new drive, how does one go about that in ubuntu?
[02:19] <Launchpad-Lap> go to install?
[02:20] <Telroth_Plushie|> havoc, try sudo apt-get install qtparted
[02:20] <Telroth_Plushie|> then launch qtparted
[02:20] <havoc> Telroth_Plushie|: no network ATM :(
[02:20] <Telroth_Plushie|> oh
[02:20] <havoc> ok, cfdisk it is then
[02:20] <Telroth_Plushie|> you know your way around the commandline?
[02:20] <Telroth_Plushie|> use parted
[02:20] <Telroth_Plushie|> it's installed, qtparted is just a gui frontent
[02:20] <havoc> Telroth_Plushie|: yes, and then some
[02:20] <Telroth_Plushie|> sudo parted
[02:20] <havoc> all this GUI stuff is messing with me
[02:21] <Telroth_Plushie|> it's install by default thank god
[02:21] <helge> Havoc: you may be right (but you can delete partitions there) my bad
[02:21] <havoc> cool, brb then
[02:21] <Telroth_Plushie|> parted creates, resizes, moves, deletes, reformats, and more :)
[02:22] <v3ctor> i am having issues with recent `aptitude dist-upgrade`
[02:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> there is no "commit" or "save"
[02:22] <v3ctor> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/835014
[02:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> every command is final.
[02:22] <v3ctor> is there a problem with nscd package?
[02:24] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, ok, by searching my harddrive for .mov files and then searching the web for that filename, I found this: http://linuxmafia.com/pub/rick-moen-soundfiles/toyota-bugger.mov See it works (it does for me)
[02:27] <livingdaylight> hastesaver: ok,  that works
[02:29] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, so what does mplayer (say) say when you try playing your camera files?
[02:30] <livingdaylight> hastesaver: using kaffeine
[02:30] <BetaCookies> hmmm
[02:30] <BetaCookies> I have a 2WIRE 1000sw router, it only has one ethernet port, which I will soon be using for my mac, is there a way I could get it to work via USB?
[02:30] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, I picked mplayer because it's verbose... Does kaffeine give any error message?
[02:31] <ckd> guten abend @ all
[02:31] <Creepz> GAHHHHHHHHHHH i have an apache server which isnt listed in top and wont shutdown what should i do :(
[02:31] <livingdaylight> no, the thing plays but with horrendous distorted sound
[02:31] <Creepz> ive even removed apache from synaptic and its still there ive done killall apache + apache 2
[02:32] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, oh... are you sure it isn't that your camera's recording device has gone bad? ;-)
[02:32] <livingdaylight> hastesaver: i thought it might be. But i had some old ones saved to cd and they are miss-playing too, so...
[02:33] <Lothar> i have done a server install and i want to remote ssh into the machiene, the problem is that the Ip address is not set properly, what is the command
[02:33] <livingdaylight> hastesaver: when i play it back from the camera although feint i can hear that it is fine too
[02:34] <hastesaver> livingdaylight, oh... maybe you can try using mplayer, and see if it gives an error message (or paste the output to pastebin)
[02:34] <Creepz> Lothar i think its ifconfig
[02:35] <Creepz> type man ifconfig      Lothar
[02:36] <alek66> when I did a modprobe ndiswrapper console froze... and I have loaded ndiswrapper as a module but I dont see the interface
[02:36] <BetaCookies> [amsg]  Be right back, changing internet connection.
[02:39] <Furesho> okay. firefox is installed and java runtime is installed, yet firefox cannot see that java runtime is already installed, so i can't run applets in firefox. how can i get java to work with firefox?
[02:39] <Launchpad-Lap> !flex
[02:39] <ubotu> flex: A fast lexical analyzer generator.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.33-4 (edgy), package size 220 kB, installed size 936 kB
[02:40] <Launchpad-Lap> ok tally time.. who here is runing 6.06 and who here is running 6.10
[02:41] <sungam> hi
[02:41] <metatecque> Launchpad-Lap: 6.06.0 - k and g on seperate terms
[02:42] <Launchpad-Lap> i see
[02:42] <helge> 6.06
[02:43] <Furesho> anybody here?
[02:43] <sungam> I followed this tutorial ( http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu_p2?s=aa69957c007c3ffd1f24d3853e173540& ) to compile a kernel on 6.10 (needed to enable hdd protection). The compilation and installation went fine, but when I restart, KDE won't load (KDM will). Anyone have any suggestions? :)
[02:44] <Launchpad-Lap> grr
[02:45] <Launchpad-Lap> my mouseie no wokr dangit
[02:45] <sungam> oh, the real problem is that my old Kernel won't load either. If it was just the new one it wouldn't really be a problem.
[02:45] <Dheeraj_k> one stop multimedia solution for ubuntu :) http://thakur.dheeraj.googlepages.com/ubuntuPackage.pdf
[02:46] <Dheeraj_k> have fun
[02:46] <eilker> !grub > eilker
[02:56] <Launchpad-Lap> !lamp
[02:56] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[02:56] <Launchpad-Lap> wtf is lamp lol
[02:59] <Pe_de_panow> oi
[03:00] <eilker> oi
[03:00] <Pe_de_panow> minha primeira vez aki, o pessoal parece meio queto
[03:00] <metatecque> Launchpad-Lap: what do you mean by wtf is lamp - it is the coolest set of server software you will ever learn... oi
[03:01] <Launchpad-Lap> well is it a database.. or what?
[03:02] <Launchpad-Lap> database..webserver.. eh?
[03:02] <metatecque> Then you get to play with - Mambo and Joomla - Dropal and PHP nuke
[03:02] <alek66> How do I unload a loaded module
[03:02] <Launchpad-Lap> first i wanna get through workstation lol
[03:03] <metatecque> linux is the os - apache is the webserver - mysql is the database - PHP is the Perl Hypertext Pre-processor that makes it all work
[03:04] <Pe_de_panow> hi
[03:04] <Launchpad-Lap> another words stuff i dont remember from college
[03:04] <metatecque> hello Pe_de_panow
[03:04] <Pe_de_panow> is this a brazilian channel?
[03:05] <Pe_de_panow> or not?
[03:05] <metatecque> no this is the kde-ubuntu support channel
[03:05] <Pe_de_panow> oh sorry
[03:05] <Pe_de_panow> my first time here
[03:05] <Pe_de_panow> i was speaking in portuguese, i didnt know
[03:06] <Jucato> !pt
[03:06] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:06] <metatecque> ty Jucato
[03:06] <Pe_de_panow> tks
[03:06] <helge> Obrigada? Obrigado
[03:07] <LjL> wow
[03:07] <LjL> was about time someone else noticed
[03:07] <LjL> but, nah, i'll leave it. it's a tradition now
[03:08] <Jucato> lol
[03:08] <helge> lol
[03:08] <Launchpad-Lap> grr how come each time i restart kubuntu my mouse doesnt work.. i gotta switch it in the ports
[03:08] <JohnFlux> will ubuntu fiesty have driver support for a star gate?
[03:08] <alek66> how do I bring down a network interface?
[03:08] <JohnFlux> I don't have a dialing device
[03:08] <LjL> alek66: ifdown <interface>
[03:09] <Pe_de_panow> may I ask my questions about kubuntu here?
[03:09] <LjL> Pe_de_panow: yup
[03:09] <alek66> Pe_de_panow, just ask
[03:09] <JohnFlux> Pe_de_panow: of course
[03:09] <Pe_de_panow> is there a way to install mercury messenger using adept?
[03:10] <JohnFlux> Pe_de_panow: never heard of it
[03:10] <alek66> can anyone help me with some ndiswrapper?
[03:10] <LjL> not from the official repos that i can see
[03:10] <eilker> Pe_de_panow:no u cnt
[03:10] <JohnFlux> Pe_de_panow: doesn't seem to.  is it open source
[03:10] <eilker> Pe_de_panow:just follow  www.mercury.to
[03:10] <Pe_de_panow> i've seacherd for it in adept, but i didnt find
[03:10] <eilker> Pe_de_panow: u will need java too
[03:11] <Random_Transit> hey, i can't get k3b to read mp3s
[03:11] <alek66> I want to unload ndiswrapper module... how do i do it?
[03:11] <Pe_de_panow> tks eilker
[03:11] <Random_Transit> can anyone help me??
[03:11] <Pe_de_panow> i will try to download it directly from site
[03:11] <alek66> Random_Transit, just ask
[03:11] <eilker> Pe_de_panow: np
[03:12] <Random_Transit> i'm trying to burn an audio cd with k3b, and it won't let me use mp3s
[03:13] <BetaCookies> hmm
[03:13] <BetaCookies> I have no opengl library installed :\
[03:13] <BetaCookies> configure: error: No OpenGL library could be found
[03:16] <Telroth_Plushie|> sungam, did you fix your problem?
[03:16] <sungam> Telroth_Plushie|:  nope
[03:17] <sungam> Telroth_Plushie|: I've been trying to find some solution, but I can't seem to
[03:17] <Telroth_Plushie|> when you log in
[03:17] <Telroth_Plushie|> does the screen reset and then kdm reloads?
[03:17] <sungam> Telroth_Plushie|:  yes
[03:17] <Telroth_Plushie|> ok
[03:17] <Telroth_Plushie|> press ctrl+f1 to switch to tty1
[03:17] <Telroth_Plushie|> then
[03:17] <Telroth_Plushie|> log in as your normal user
[03:18] <Telroth_Plushie|> if it fills the screen with "bash: permission denied: /dev/null
[03:18] <metatecque> aah - ctrl+alt-f1?
[03:18] <Telroth_Plushie|> hit ctrl+c
[03:18] <ckd> good morning
[03:18] <BetaCookies> how do I get an OpenGL library so I can compile StepMania?
[03:18] <Pe_de_panow> good morning
[03:18] <metatecque> ckd: good evening
[03:18] <Telroth_Plushie|> then type "sudo chmod 777 /dev/null"
[03:18] <Telroth_Plushie|> then press ctrl+alt+f7 to return to kdm
[03:18] <Telroth_Plushie|> and try logging in
[03:18] <Telroth_Plushie|> that's the current problem with my system (6.10)
[03:19] <Telroth_Plushie|> and the work around i have to use every time i boot it up
[03:19] <Telroth_Plushie|> no solution yet.
[03:19] <Telroth_Plushie|> (that i have found)
[03:19] <sungam> Telroth_Plushie|:  Just to check if I've gotten it right: Start normally, Try to log in, Press CTRL+F1, log in as normal user, CTRL+C, then type "sudo chmod 777 /dev/null", CTRL+ALT+F7
[03:19] <Telroth_Plushie|> metatecque, you are right, ctrl+alt+f1 in the first instance
[03:19] <Telroth_Plushie|> sungam, don't bother logging into kdm
[03:19] <Telroth_Plushie|> it'll just reset like usual
[03:19] <sungam> kk
[03:20] <Telroth_Plushie|> hit ctrl+alt+f1 when the kdm login appears
[03:20] <Telroth_Plushie|> then the rest as you said
[03:20] <metatecque> Telroth_Plushie|: I try
[03:20] <ckd_> it was broke all 5 minutes
[03:20] <Telroth_Plushie|> log in as normal user
[03:20] <Telroth_Plushie|> ctrl+c
[03:20] <sungam> Telroth_Plushie|:  thanks
[03:20] <Telroth_Plushie|> etc.
[03:20] <Telroth_Plushie|> yw
[03:20] <Telroth_Plushie|> let me know if it works
[03:20] <ckd_> everybody know this bug?
[03:20] <Telroth_Plushie|> what bug?
[03:21] <sungam> Telroth_Plushie|:  I'll try. Need to get out of windows to see if it works :)
[03:21] <ckd_> dsl connection hang up all the time
[03:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> ckd_, i don't have that problem, my dsl is managed by my router.
[03:22] <dragonfly7> Hey, if anyone is still on who helped me earlier, you will be happy to know Winblows is funtioning.
[03:22] <ckd_> bad shit
[03:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> !language
[03:22] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:22] <sungam> Telroth_Plushie|:  trying to reboot now. I'll be back in a bit, I hope :)
[03:22] <metatecque> ckd_: get a router and a S#!^ catcher
[03:22] <ckd_> bad shit i have 16mbit and my  router knows 6 mbit
[03:22] <mc74x> hoal
[03:23] <Kiongku> !language > ckd_
[03:23] <Telroth_Plushie|> ckd_, check your configuration. i haven't seen anyone else with that problem, so it's probably a config error
[03:23] <Telroth_Plushie|> ckd_, they don't make 6mbit routers :P
[03:23] <metatecque> !language > metatecque
[03:23] <Telroth_Plushie|> slowest i know of is 10mbit, and any you buy today are 100mbit
[03:24] <ckd_> bad shit
[03:25] <Pe_de_panow> how do I copy subdirectories using 'cp' at konsole?
[03:25] <LjL> Pe_de_panow: cp -a is an option - but read the man page. "man cp"
[03:25] <ckd_> g8 @ all
[03:26] <Telroth_Plushie|> LjL, how does cp -a differ from cp -r ?
[03:27] <Telroth_Plushie|> i use cp -r to do my recursive copies (subdirs)
[03:27] <LjL> read the manpage ;)
[03:27] <Telroth_Plushie|> ah
[03:27] <Telroth_Plushie|> *feels stupid*
[03:27] <Pe_de_panow> neither -r and -a worked...
[03:27] <LjL> !doesn't work
[03:27] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[03:28] <Telroth_Plushie|> Pe_de_panow, how are you using it?
[03:28] <metatecque> LjL: I like ubotu humor... I should add to it
[03:28] <Pe_de_panow> sudo cp -a /home/leonardo/Desktop/mercury/*.* .
[03:29] <Telroth_Plushie|> sudo cp -a /home/leonardo/Desktop/mercury/* . <-- try this
[03:29] <Pe_de_panow> hum let me try
[03:30] <Pe_de_panow> i think that it worked, telroth... let me see
[03:30] <Pe_de_panow> yes! tks telroth
[03:30] <Pe_de_panow> *.* -> bad DOS memories lol
[03:31] <Telroth_Plushie|> lol Pe_de_panow
[03:31] <Pe_de_panow> newbie with linux
[03:33] <Pe_de_panow> what does this command do? ---------> chgrp -R users /usr/share/mercury
[03:34] <kgx> hi. how can start konsole with 2 tabs with 2 session types?
[03:34] <nickv111> Pe_de_panow: It sets the group mode on /usr/share/mercury recursively to the group "users"
[03:35] <Pe_de_panow> ah i thought that i should replace the word 'users' by something else...
[03:37] <e3> Help! My KDE weather applet says "The requested Station doesnt exist", nomatter what town it tell it to use.
[03:38] <momal> Im looking for a good program that can convert avi files into dvd format then burn to dvd (if possible ability to design menus and that (simple ones doesn't need to be comples))
[03:39] <Pe_de_panow> how do i make visible all the directories on konqueror?
[03:39] <momal> Pe_de_panow: view> show hidden files
[03:39] <Jucato> Pe_de_panow: hidden directories? View menu -> Show hidden files
[03:39] <Jucato> snap
[03:40] <momal> lol
[03:40] <momal> to quick for you :p
[03:40] <Jucato> hehe
[03:40] <kgx> i hate it how it makes all directories hidden in kubuntu 6.10
[03:40] <robotgeek> kgx: f8 or rm ~/.hidden
[03:40] <Jucato> !hidden-root kgx
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hidden-root kgx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <Jucato> !hidden-root | kgx
[03:41] <ubotu> kgx: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[03:41] <Pe_de_panow> why this?
[03:41] <robotgeek> Jucato: you know anything about sources.list.d directory and its behaviour?
[03:41] <momal> i thought you could only make hidden files/folders by putting . in font of its name
[03:41] <Jucato> momal: this one's special
[03:41] <Jucato> robotgeek: um... nope..
[03:42] <robotgeek> Jucato: heh, okay
[03:42] <kgx> ubotu:  thanks for the link. still on dapper at work but will read that when i get home :-)
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks for the link. still on dapper at work but will read that when i get home :-) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <kgx> ah bot :p
[03:46] <momal> Im looking for a good program that can convert avi files into dvd format then burn to dvd (if possible ability to design menus and that (simple ones doesn't need to be comples))
[03:46] <Telroth_Plushie|> momal, devede
[03:47] <Hawkwind> !devede
[03:47] <ubotu> devede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 243 kB, installed size 664 kB
[03:48] <momal> Just an idea.... you should make ubot list dependencies as well :).. or maybe link to a page with the listen deps.
[03:48] <nickv111> What's the command to start up the battery monitor?
[03:49] <momal> Telroth_Plushie|: thanks will check it out
[03:49] <nickv111> Mine quit, and I can't get it bacm
[03:49] <nickv111> back*
[03:49] <Hawkwind> momal: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[03:49] <knapp> Please, someone recommend me a good (great) bittorrent client.
[03:49] <Telroth_Plushie|> momal, apt-cache showpkg devede
[03:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> knapp, azureus
[03:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> no better client
[03:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> however can't be installed concurrently with eclipse
[03:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> due to a naming conflict with dependancies
[03:50] <momal> Knapp: I use torrentflux which is web/python/bittoronado bassed
[03:50] <knapp> I'm currently using Az
[03:50] <Telroth_Plushie|> my second recomendation is ktorrent
[03:50] <Jucato> ktorrent....
[03:50] <knapp> azureus
[03:51] <knapp> but It's having problems.
[03:51] <Telroth_Plushie|> like what?
[03:51] <knapp> I hate ktorrent.
[03:51] <knapp> Like my downloads slow to a halt after a long period of time, but when I close out and reopen it they start full speed again.
[03:51] <sungam> Telroth_Plushie|: Tried your workaround, but unfortunately that didn't solve it.
[03:52] <enyawix> where is the non open stuff posted?
[03:52] <knapp> I think I have the bugged version of ktorrent. All torrents contstantly go from active to stalled active to stalled over and over.
[03:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> sungam, when you logged in to the console on tty1, did it print "bash: permission denied: /dev/null" over and over again?
[03:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> knapp, mine do that if i have peers but no one is sharing
[03:53] <Telroth_Plushie|> sometimes one of them will send a few bytes and it goes to "downloading", then it reverts back.
[03:53] <sungam> Telroth_Plushie|:  nope :)
[03:53] <Telroth_Plushie|> make sure your udp ports are open for incoming connections
[03:53] <Telroth_Plushie|> that really boosts download speeds
[03:53] <Jucato> knapp: doesn't do that anymore in the current version in Kubuntu
[03:53] <Hawkwind> Azureus does nothing but eat memory with all its memory leaks.  Using a dial-up modem would be better than that app
[03:54] <Hawkwind> knapp: You using Dapper or Edgy ?
[03:54] <knapp> jucato I have 2.0.3
[03:54] <knapp> Edgy
[03:54] <Hawkwind> Get 2.1dev
[03:54] <Jucato> knapp: it doesn't do that anymore. it could be a problem with the torrent itself
[03:54] <Hawkwind> knapp: http://buntudot.org/people/~jdong/ktorrent/svn-dapper/
[03:54] <sungam> Telroth_Plushie|: what kind of surprises me is that it broke my old kernel as well. thought the kernels worked independent of eachother (separate configs and such)
[03:55] <Pe_de_panow> hey everybody, i gonna sleep, tks everybody for hints
[03:55] <Telroth_Plushie|> sungam, they usually do
[03:55] <Telroth_Plushie|> i have about 6 installed
[03:56] <Telroth_Plushie|> sungam, upload /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old to a pastebin site
[03:56] <Telroth_Plushie|> it should help with the problem
[03:56] <sungam> kinda tricky, unfortunately
[03:56] <sungam> on wlan which doesn't load without x
[03:57] <sungam> or I haven't gotten it to load at least, so I need ot reoboot to windows to get on net
[03:57] <Pe_de_panow> bye
[03:57] <sungam> Telroth_Plushie|: but could you look at http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu_p2 ,please and see if there's some obvious flaws? My first time compiling a kernel, so I wouldn't know if I missed out on anything
[03:58] <sungam> Telroth_Plushie|:  I did everything there, but if the author missed something I mean
[04:00] <Telroth_Plushie|> sungam, that's not the method i used when i was building my kernels, but i see nothing wrong with it.
[04:02] <sungam> Telroth_Plushie|: hmmm... thanks... Thought it might have to do with the make-kpkg way of compiling (not sure what's included), but from a debian.org faq it seems to be a proper way of doing it
[04:06] <LeeJunFan> The DVD version has no rescue?!? That's odd. I tried dapper and edgy tonight after repartitioning my system and restoring from backups, had to use an alternate CD to boot rescue mode.
[04:11] <nikon> I NEED HELP PLEASEEE!!!!! MAJOR EMERGENGY
[04:11] <Dasnipa> major emergency? national security at stake?
[04:11] <eilker> so ask
[04:12] <nikon> i have about 30 seconds before my os freezes again
[04:12] <Dr_willis> wow
[04:12] <drarem> too late
[04:12] <Dr_willis> live cd :)
[04:12] <Dasnipa> so stop chit chattin and ask lol
[04:13] <Dasnipa> probably some overclocker newb
[04:13] <Dasnipa> i only turned it up 500 mhz with stock heat sink. whys it freezing?
[04:14] <sungam> :)
[04:14] <Dasnipa> but i need to waste cpu ticks at a 10% faster rate!
[04:16] <Dasnipa> my wow raid group is counting on it... lol
[04:16] <nikon> ok sorry, im running edgy, everything up to date, no im not an overclocking newb. dont know how to explain it properly, but here it goes. everything works fine, for a bit, then my whole x server freezes for about 2 -5 minutes then comes back. ktorrent wont stay open, amarok freezes about 20 seconds into each song and then comes back a minute later, switches songs the freezes again.
[04:17] <nikon> if i dont answer right away give me a minute and ill be back
[04:17] <Hawkwind> nikon: Run memtest for as many hours as you can to check your RAM
[04:17] <Hawkwind> nikon: That's the first signs of a hardware issue
[04:18] <nikon> "unknown id: memtest"
[04:18] <nikon> got it never mind
[04:19] <Hawkwind> nikon: You have to boot to it.  It's best to let it run overnight while you sleep
[04:19] <Hawkwind> A good 12 - 16 hours would be the best to let it run for
[04:19] <nikon> how do i boot to it?
[04:20] <Hawkwind> Hit ESC when it gets the countdown of grub
[04:20] <Hawkwind> Then you simply select it as if you were selecting another kernel
[04:20] <nikon> ok
[04:20] <eilker> 12-16 hours ??
[04:20] <Hawkwind> eilker: Yes.  That is what memtest is recommended to be run for to do proper checks
[04:21] <eilker> hawkwind:  i  never did it
[04:21] <Dr_willis> or he may be having somthing slurp up all his ram.
[04:22] <nikon> ok back
[04:22] <babob4722> HI ALL
[04:22] <babob4722> im new to linux, just installed it
[04:22] <babob4722> and I must say I LOVE IT
[04:22] <nikon> is there anything else i can do?
[04:22] <Dr_willis> moo
[04:23] <sungam> Telroth_Plushie|:  thanks for the help so far, btw. Going to try to recompile according to: http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_fedora_p2 , then see if that helps
[04:23] <Dr_willis> nikon,  try a live cd - see if it has issues as well.
[04:23] <Hawkwind> nikon: Best to start there and eliminate that issue first
[04:23] <sungam> Telroth_Plushie|: somehow I doubt it, but it's worth a shot :)
[04:23] <nikon> ok, thanks alot. ill be back
[04:26] <sungam> wish me luck :)
[04:27] <Hobbsee> !logs
[04:27] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[04:28] <eilker> !dual
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <Dr_willis> !duke
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about duke - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <eilker> !boot > eilker
[04:30] <LordOliver> hehehe ... beginners luck strikes again
[04:30] <babob4722> HI
[04:31] <babob4722> I am new to linux, and just installed it, and I love it
[04:31] <babob4722> but there is so much to learn now
[04:31] <babob4722> lol
[04:32] <babob4722> can anyone give me any pointers?
[04:32] <babob4722> tips even?
[04:32] <LordOliver> babob4722: as in tips concerning what?
[04:32] <LordOliver> something you'd like to know more about?
[04:32] <babob4722> anything...
[04:33] <Dr_willis> Tip #1 - dont be vague.
[04:33] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:33] <Dr_willis> Tip #2 - read read read read... and read more...
[04:33] <babob4722> ok will do
[04:33] <babob4722> thanks
[04:33] <Dr_willis> tldp.org is a good place to start.
[04:33] <Dr_willis> the kubuntu/ubuntu homepage/wikis are also good.
[04:34] <momal> Tip #3 - after completing Tip #2 Read more :).... and if you have another spare box don't be afraid to muck around with it becuase if it dies just format and reinstall :)
[04:35] <Jucato> babob4722: you could probably start with the Kubuntu Desktop Guide that comes with Kubuntu
[04:35] <Jucato> babob4722: K Menu -> Help
[04:35] <LordOliver> wiki's are good though I still can't figure out how to make it less ugly
[04:36] <Dr_willis> make what less ugly? the wiki?
[04:36] <eilker> i use linux/kubuntu/ubuntu since two months, i still didnt understand structure
[04:36] <Jucato> LordOliver: try accessing the wiki using wiki.kubuntu.org instead of wiki.ubuntu.com :)
[04:36] <Jucato> eilker: what structure specifically?
[04:37] <momal> eilker: I have been using linux for 5 years now and im still learning stuff :)
[04:37] <Jucato> learning is really a life-long process :)
[04:37] <Jucato> it also depends on how much you really want to learn, and how determined you are
[04:37] <eilker> jucato: for example mount thing, and symlink etc
[04:38] <eilker> momal: i installed ftp server, web server, will install e-mail server
[04:38] <Jucato> one step at a time :)
[04:38] <Dr_willis> porn server.
[04:38] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:38] <Jucato> ssshh
[04:38] <LordOliver> Jucato: kubuntu is damn easy to install though it isn't even funny :)
[04:38] <momal> eilker: nice install server's is a good way to get around how configurations work and how to run/stop/start things :)
[04:39] <Jucato> LordOliver: time for you to move to Gentoo hehehe :)
[04:39] <momal> Haha... Gentoo is evil for me :(
[04:39] <LordOliver> jucato: I was thinking Fedora Core 6 ;)
[04:39] <momal> Debian all the way :)
[04:39] <Jucato> lol
[04:39] <eilker> momal: in fact i really liked it, my retired pc is a web host at the moment
[04:39] <Jucato> different strokes :)
[04:40] <momal> eilker: :D.. linux has its good feature to run on old computers unlike the operating system that must remain unspoken :p
[04:41] <Dr_willis> FreeDOS?
[04:41] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:41] <eilker> for a newbie there r many subjects, studying linux ? or studying os/kubuntu ? or trying to go out windows logic....etc...
[04:42] <eilker> linux is another world for windows users
[04:43] <BetaCookies> linux is easy :P
[04:43] <Dr_willis> Linux users are from Mars... Window Users are from their own perverted realigy.
[04:43] <Dr_willis> reality
[04:43] <levander> When you are dist-upgrading, and a configuration file has changed in a package, does update-manager still let you choose whether to keep your old configuration files that you've modified or upgrade to the new configuration just like apt-get does?  Or, has update-manager "simplified" the process so much, you aren't given this option?
[04:43] <eilker> BetaCookies: i dont agree with you:)
[04:44] <Jucato> lve
[04:44] <levander> Damn, I've asked that same question in 3 ubuntu channels.  No one knows.
[04:44] <LordOliver> why does everyone like the mac osx look?
[04:44] <Jucato> levander: we don't have update-manager in Kubuntu
[04:44] <levander> Jucato: good point
[04:45] <Dr_willis> i was thinking that. :)
[04:45] <Jucato> levander: but afaik, update-manager is just a fancy front-end to apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:45] <babob4722> I do have a ligitmat question now
[04:45] <babob4722> i have a pentium 4 pc compaq to be precise
[04:45] <levander> Jucato: yeah, I'm just trying to make sure it doesn't overwrite the hours of configuration I've done, without informing me.
[04:45] <babob4722> which files do I download for linux programs
[04:46] <Dr_willis> !apt
[04:46] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:46] <levander> I've heard with all the problems dist-upgrading to edgy, you're better off using update-manager...
[04:46] <babob4722> x86  x86-64  ppc
[04:46] <Dr_willis> babob4722,  you mean wihc version of the disrto to use?
[04:46] <Jucato> levander: also, afaik, an upgrade always overwrites the configurations in /usr and /etc. if you the configurations you made were saved in $HOME, then those are kept
[04:46] <babob4722> every time i download something it doesnt work
[04:46] <Dr_willis> babob4722,  and your cpu is a ??
[04:46] <babob4722> i dont know
[04:46] <babob4722> its a pentium 4
[04:46] <levander> Jucato: nah, with apt-get, for some packages, you are prompted if you want to keep the old configuration
[04:47] <Dr_willis> x86 then.
[04:47] <babob4722> thank you
[04:47] <Jucato> levander: only some, like KDM. but not always
[04:47] <Jucato> kdm/gdm
[04:47] <Dr_willis> 'i dont know, its a pent 4' :) heh heh heh
[04:47] <levander> Jucato: yeah, true
[04:48] <Jucato> levander: but like I said, if the configuration changes you made affect only your user (hence gets saved in $HOME), you have nothing to worry about
[04:48] <gtrplr> what is the dev release name ?
[04:48] <Jucato> apt doesn't remove things from $HOME
[04:48] <levander> Jucato: no, they don't, i've configured several servers to be the way i want
[04:48] <gtrplr> after edgy
[04:49] <Jucato> Feisty Fawn
[04:49] <Jucato> levander: ah special case, I'm not exactly sure...
[04:49] <gtrplr> Jucato: thank you
[04:49] <eilker> is  symlink dangerous ?
[04:49] <Jucato> gtrplr: for more feisty questions, go to #ubuntu+1 :)
[04:50] <Jucato> eilker: depends on how you use it. generally, no
[04:50] <levander> Jucato: okay, thanks
[04:50] <Dr_willis> are computers dangerous. :)
[04:50] <Jucato> Dr_willis: if you throw them at someone, they are :P
[04:50] <eilker> i hate loosing of data that's why i ask :D
[04:51] <eilker> i hate partitions, i hate mbr too
[04:51] <Dr_willis> take up golf.... sell the pc.
[04:51] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:51] <Jucato> eilker: mbr is necessary. partitions (should) make your life easier.
[04:52] <Jucato> people hate what they fear. they fear what they don't understand :)
[04:52] <eilker> jucato: u r totaly right
[04:52] <Dr_willis> We have nothing to Fear but MS itself.
[04:52] <babob4722> it says archive type not supported
[04:52] <Jucato> lol
[04:52] <babob4722> what does that mean?
[04:53] <Dr_willis> what is saying what where babob4722
[04:53] <Dr_willis> who when why... :)
[04:53] <Jucato> which how
[04:53] <babob4722> i was trying to download firefox but it keeps telling me that the archive file is not supported
[04:53] <Dr_willis> Ahy are you even downloading it?
[04:54] <babob4722> yes i downloaded it
[04:54] <babob4722> to my desktop
[04:54] <Dr_willis> use the pacakge manager and just install it.
[04:54] <Dr_willis> !apt
[04:54] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:54] <Dr_willis> you dont need to 'go download it'
[04:54] <eilker> use adept...
[04:54] <eilker> system/adept
[04:54] <Dr_willis> !info firefox
[04:54] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 28588 kB
[04:55] <Dr_willis> 'sudo apt-get install firefox'
[04:55] <Dr_willis> will download and isntall it.
[04:55] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:55] <babob4722> oh sorry, i meant firestarter
[04:55] <babob4722> my bad
[04:55] <Dr_willis> !info firestarter
[04:55] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 383 kB, installed size 1884 kB
[04:56] <babob4722> i thought it was to download music
[04:56] <babob4722> lol
[04:56] <babob4722> omg im too new at this
[04:56] <Dr_willis> babob4722,  huh.....
[04:56] <babob4722> i want to download music, are there any programs for linux to do that?
[04:56] <Dr_willis> fire up adept and read the pacakge decriptions.
[04:56] <eilker> !amule
[04:56] <ubotu> amule: client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 1239 kB, installed size 3368 kB
[04:57] <Dr_willis> install some of the various p2p clients...
[04:57] <babob4722> what is adept?
[04:57] <Dr_willis> or use the torrent sites
[04:57] <Dr_willis> !adept
[04:57] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:57] <Dr_willis> 'read read read read.....' :)
[04:57] <babob4722> thank you
[04:58] <eilker> people, can i request ubuntu-server cd from ship-it ?
[04:58] <Dr_willis> eilker,  i dont think so
[04:58] <Jucato> Dapper, probably
[04:59] <Jucato> eilker: http://shipit.ubuntu.com and check your options
[04:59] <babob4722> i didnt even have it installed
[04:59] <babob4722> what a tool i am
[04:59] <babob4722> lol
[04:59] <babob4722> thanks for all your help guys
[04:59] <Dr_willis> You installed Kubuntu and dident have adept installed?
[04:59] <eilker> Dr_willis: i already have installed lamp server on kubuntu , now do i use kubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-server
[04:59] <babob4722> yup
[05:00] <babob4722> im a tool
[05:00] <babob4722> lol
[05:00] <Dr_willis> eilker,  depends on whart you are wanting to do. :)
[05:00] <Jucato> eilker: ah.. sorry, only Desktop CD's are shipped
[05:00] <eilker> Dr_willis: just trying to understand differences between both, is only difference gui ?
[05:01] <Dr_willis> server would have no gui - i am guessing
[05:01] <Dr_willis> those are both meta-packages that install sets of other packages...
[05:01] <Jucato> Dr_willis: the Server CD installs a LAMP system. different from the server install on the Alternate Install CD
[05:01] <eilker> jucato: and limited dsl here:)
[05:02] <Jucato> eilker: how limited? I only have 512kbps
[05:03] <eilker> jucato: 3gb download in a month and 1024 kpbs //and 20 us dollars cost
[05:03] <eilker> jucato: no upload limit
[05:03] <Jucato> ah... mine has a fixed rate and fixed bandwidth (down/upload)
[05:03] <Dr_willis> !info kubuntu-server
[05:03] <Dr_willis> !info kubuntu-desktop
[05:03] <ubotu> Package kubuntu-server does not exist in any distro I know
[05:03] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: Kubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.22 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 40 kB
[05:04] <Jucato> !info ubuntu-standard | Dr_willis
[05:04] <ubotu> ubuntu-standard: The Ubuntu standard system. In component main, is standard. Version 1.30 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB
[05:05] <eilker> is alternate cd same with server cd ?
[05:05] <Jucato> eilker: o
[05:05] <Jucato> er.. "no"
[05:05] <Jucato> Alternate Install CD = text based installer with lots of different advanced options
[05:06] <eilker> jucato: i see, do u choose kde,gnome,xfce ? and lamp install option etc ?
[05:07] <Dr_willis> i install all those desktops. :)
[05:07] <Jucato> eilker: no. you can only install the desktop that comes with the installer: KDE for Kubuntu Alternate Install CD, GNOME for the Ubuntu one
[05:07] <Jucato> also no LAMP option
[05:07] <Dr_willis> You can easially download/install other desktops afterwards
[05:08] <Jucato> Alternate Install options: server (minimal, no GUI) install, expert (choose individual modules, have root enabled by default), LVM support, RAID support, installing GRUB somewhere other than MBR
[05:09] <eilker> lets say i use ubuntu, installed kde-desktop, now is it same with kubuntu ?
[05:09] <Dr_willis> its kubuntu + gnome desktop :)
[05:09] <eilker> jucato: so what is use of alternate cd, may be for engineering?
[05:10] <Dr_willis> normally i install 'kubuntu-desktop'
[05:10] <Jucato> eilker: I already enumerated some features of the CD
[05:10] <Jucato> those features are not in the Desktop CD
[05:10] <Dr_willis> eilker,    i always use the alt install cd. ii find it fetsre then the live cd.
[05:10] <Dr_willis> faster :)
[05:10] <LordOliver> ok, I downloaded a theme and unpacked it now I got shit all over my desktop... what did I do wrong?
[05:10] <eilker> jucato: i see
[05:10] <bLaZeD> hello all......i just tried to ping google and yahoo .com and im now getting this : http://pastebin.ulteo.us/271 ...ive always been able to ping......1st time ive ever seen this b4
[05:10] <eilker> dr_willis: kde-desktop and kubuntu desktop are same or not ?
[05:11] <Jucato> actually, it's the other way around Dr_willis.. the Desktop CD only needs to copy the setup. Alt Install copies, installs, and configures
[05:11] <Jucato> eilker: there is no kde-desktop
[05:11] <babob4722> thanks guys, this is swesome!!!!
[05:11] <_kuja_> Another plus of the alternate cd is a proper partition setter-upper sort of thing ..... ubiquity-kde + qtparted = awful (and will continue being so until they fix up qtparted like they're planning to)
[05:11] <babob4722> awesome even
[05:11] <babob4722> lol
[05:11] <Dr_willis> LordOliver,  depends on the package.. theres a lot of annoying issues with somne 'theme' files.. and theres like 3 different 'areas' that are themeable.
[05:11] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  i find the live cd runs slower.
[05:11] <Jucato> LordOliver: what kind of a theme is it?
[05:12] <Jucato> Dr_willis: I guess the fact that it need to have X up to install does make it slower
[05:12] <eilker> dr_willis: does it impoart that much i mean speed ?
[05:12] <LordOliver> jucato: this one http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=49239
[05:12] <Dr_willis> Window Decoration, Icons, 'widgets' (the stuff in the window/buttons/sliders) then an actual 'theme file' sets up those 3
[05:12] <eilker> dr_willis: does it important* that much i mean speed ?
[05:12] <Dr_willis> eilker,  on my Pent 100 system.. Yes.. :) it takes  so long for the live cd to even boot
[05:13] <maltaethiron> hey guys, im downloading something with ktorrent right now.  if i close it, will it download in the background, or does the window need to stay open?
[05:13] <eilker> dr_willis: what what ?? pent 100 ?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> but i dont mess with the pent 100 much.. its a 'emergancy' ssh machine. :)
[05:13] <Jucato> LordOliver: download the one that says K THeme Manager theme, then extract it, you will get a .kth file
[05:14] <Jucato> LordOliver: press Alt+F2 and type "kcontrol", then go to Appearance & Themes -> Theme Manager. click on Install New Theme and locate the .kth file you just extracted
[05:14] <maltaethiron> anyone have any clue?
[05:14] <Dr_willis> ktorrent can 'close/minimize' to the system tray
[05:14] <maltaethiron> ah
[05:14] <Jucato> LordOliver: er... it says that the it's recommended to use the theme with Beryl....
[05:14] <Dr_willis> i though it auto-minimized when still downloading.
[05:15] <Jucato> LordOliver: it's also recommended that you have QtCurve style installed
[05:15] <Dr_willis> Should i mention that the package manager has a lot of extra kde themes/styles that are not installed by default. :)
[05:16] <RobNyc> ok in gnome the deb package manger is gdebi how about in kubuntu
[05:16] <seven> maltaethiron: settings perfernces general show system tray icon  than it will stay there if you close the window\
[05:16] <maltaethiron> ty seven
[05:17] <Jucato> Dr_willis: styles only. not "themes" (in the KDE sense of the word)
[05:17] <Jucato> Dr_willis: actually: styles, windecos, icons
[05:17] <_kuja_> kde doesn't really have an equivilent of gdebi, yet.
[05:17] <_kuja_> (well, kubuntu anyhow)
[05:17] <Dr_willis> Yea - kde's use of 'themeage' is a bit confuseing at times. :)
[05:17] <RobNyc> _kuja_, thanks
[05:18] <LordOliver> thanks again jucato, simple as can be :)
[05:18] <Dr_willis> kde-look.org  can use a good cleaning up also. heh
[05:18] <Jucato> Dr_willis: actually, it's KDE-Look that makes it confusing
[05:18] <_kuja_> It does and it doesn't really, there's something temporary there with basic functionality ...
[05:18] <LordOliver> jucato: but, why isn't it clear do I need to restart?
[05:18] <Jucato> KDE has always meant a KDE Theme (.kth) when referring to "theme" (single word)
[05:18] <Dr_willis> I  find the way kdes control-center and things handle them to be a bit confusing. :() but i tend to kust use 'plastik' themne.
[05:18] <Jucato> LordOliver: what isn't clear? no you don't need to restart
[05:19] <LordOliver> jucato: in the screen shots everything is transparent, my isn't
[05:19] <Jucato> Dr_willis: KControl is clear. Styles are styles. They are not Theme/Styles, like what KDE-Look says
[05:20] <Jucato> LordOliver: because, like I said earlier, it's recommended to use Beryl with that theme. without it, you don't have transparencies
[05:20] <Jucato> !beryl | LordOliver
[05:20] <ubotu> LordOliver: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:20] <Dr_willis> heck kde-look has themes 'concepts' out in the theme area. :)
[05:24] <RobNyc> so since there's no gdebi for kde .. i install .deb dpkg -i *.deb ?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> thats what i always do anyway :)
[05:24] <Jucato> RobNyc: right-click -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package
[05:25] <Jucato> btw, gdebi will be coming to KDE/Kubuntu soon :)
[05:25] <RobNyc> ty let me try
[05:25] <sungam> Hi again
[05:25] <RobNyc> Jucato, maybe with the fiesty fawn release
[05:25] <Jucato> it's one of the plans
[05:25] <Jucato> Dr_willis: which way?
[05:26] <Dr_willis> clicking on a .deb ya download.. i cant rember the last time i downloaded a .deb that wasent allready in a repos
[05:26] <Dr_willis> perhaps cedega...
[05:26] <Jucato> Dr_willis: Kubuntu's way is a bit crude... it's just a service menu that launches xterm with the proper dpkg command :)
[05:27] <Dr_willis> Crude! thats the linux way! :)
[05:27] <Dr_willis> lol
[05:28] <sungam> Telroth_Plushie| still no luck. But at least I found a lan hoookup so I don't have to reboot between attempts :)
[05:28] <Jucato> Dr_willis: nah. the linux way is "prehistoric", not crude :P
[05:29] <eilker> people do u use vmware ?
[05:29] <Jucato> I do
[05:29] <sungam> Does anyone else have any suggestions as to what could be wrong? I compiled my own kernel (2.6.18.3) to enable queue-freeze (hdd active protection). The compilation went fine, and it boots fine, until I try to log in from KDM and the screen just goes blank and then KDM restarts.
[05:30] <eilker> jucato: your ram ?
[05:30] <Jucato> eilker: 1GB :)
[05:30] <eilker> jucato: 512 here:)
[05:30] <eilker> jucato: how many os do u have ?
[05:30] <Jucato> depends on what you're trying to run
[05:30] <Jucato> on vmware?
[05:30] <eilker> yes
[05:31] <Dr_willis> 'go away befor i replace you with a small shell script'   :)
[05:31] <Dr_willis> a ThinkGeek Teeshirt.
[05:31] <Jucato> right now, 2: FC 3 (for studying), and Kubuntu Feisty
[05:31] <eilker> !feisty
[05:31] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is pre-alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[05:32] <eilker> !fc3
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fc3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <Jucato> eilker: Fedora Core 3
[05:32] <eilker> jucato: ohh i see
[05:32] <Jucato> it comes with the Linux Bible 2005 edition I bought
[05:32] <eilker> jucato: how did you get feisty ?
[05:33] <Jucato> installed edgy and dist-upgraded
[05:33] <Dr_willis> 'one of the brave'
[05:33] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:33] <eilker> how many gb do u give space for every os in vmware ?
[05:34] <Jucato> Dr_willis: I'm only brave because it's on vmware :P
[05:34] <Jucato> eilker: depends. the minimum really. 3-5GB
[05:34] <Dr_willis> eilker,  depends on the os.  I just let them play with 8gb default and keep the file 'allocate as needed'
[05:35] <eilker> jucato: is vmwareplayer(free version) enough for me ?
[05:35] <eilker> just trying for other os
[05:35] <tamacracker> Is anyone else havin a problem with Kcheckgmail?
[05:35] <Jucato> eilker: only if you already have a VMWare image (lots of free ones available in the VMWare page)
[05:37] <eilker> jucato: may i ask what production of wmvare's do u have ?
[05:37] <Jucato> vmware server
[05:37] <eilker> it is free too, right ?
[05:37] <tamacracker> Where can I look up a list of programs for Kubuntu Edgy... and has pretty detailed information of each program?
[05:37] <Jucato> yes. but you have to take some extra steps to install it
[05:38] <eilker> and u dont have vmware player ? so i am gonna only install vmware server ?
[05:38] <Jucato> eilker: install what you want/need
[05:39] <_kuja_> tamacracker: should be able to see a list of things at launchpad.net
[05:40] <eilker> jucato: i couldnt understand between player and server that's why i apply to your comment
[05:40] <tamacracker> thank you kuja
[05:40] <eilker> jucato: i couldnt understand differences* between player and server that's why i apply to your comment
[05:40] <sungam> could someone please remind me where xorg.conf is located?
[05:40] <_kuja_> /etc/X11
[05:40] <eilker> etc/x11
[05:40] <Jucato> eilker: VMWare Player is just that: it runs VMWare images. it has minimal options to modify the image. VMWare Server has extra options to create and modify images
[05:41] <Jucato> but VMWare Player is in the repositories, so installing it is easier. VMware Server isn't
[05:41] <Dr_willis> sungam,  you may want to learn how to use the 'locate' command. :)
[05:41] <Jucato> or the locate:/ kioslave
[05:41] <CVirus> !zgl
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <CVirus> !xgl
[05:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:41] <sungam> thanks
[05:41] <sungam> Dr_willis, I'm sure I do :)
[05:41] <eilker> jucato: last question:) what do u mean by vmware image ?
[05:42] <Jucato> eilker: think of it like an ISO. it's an image of the OS that you are running in VMWare. I think VMWare officially calls them Appliances
[05:42] <Dr_willis> eilker,  check out  http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/
[05:42] <eilker> thanx friends
[05:45] <babob4722> i want to play pogo, but it says i dont have jave environment installed, can I download java for linux?
[05:45] <babob4722> i saw something somewhere that said I couldnt use java
[05:45] <babob4722> is that true?
[05:45] <Dr_willis> !java
[05:45] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:45] <Dr_willis> false to me...
[05:45] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:45] <sungam> :)
[05:45] <Dr_willis> i use java under linux all the time.
[05:46] <eilker> dr_willis: so? do i need to download images from vmware web site ? will i not able to use my ubuntu cd  to install  ubuntu in vmware
[05:46] <Dr_willis> SUN just decidded to GPL java.
[05:46] <Dr_willis> eilker,  you can do it that way.. or get a vmware image and save time.
[05:46] <tamacracker> launchpad doesn't really give details of each program...
[05:46] <tamacracker> but thanks anyways kuja
[05:47] <Jucatulog> launchpad isn't really the place to look for program/package details
[05:48] <Jucato> tamacracker: you can use Adept Manager to view the package descriptions. or apt:/ (which is just a front end for apt-cache and dpkg) or in http://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:49] <sungam> argh... Not getting anywhere with this problem. Got into Konsole once (starting kdm while in recovery mode). Other than that it just boots me back to KDM :(
[05:50] <Dr_willis> sungam,  X starts but crashes?
[05:51] <sungam> Dr_willis: I guess it crashes, at least I'm thrown back into KDM
[05:51] <Dr_willis> sungam,  but KDM uses X... so somthing is odd here.
[05:51] <Dr_willis> sungam,  try making a new user and see if it does the same thing for them.
[05:52] <Dr_willis> if it works for them.. that would imply that your other users .kde settings are some how messed up.
[05:52] <babob4722> once I install it do I need to reboot?
[05:52] <eilker> jucato: i found a guide for vmware server installation :)
[05:53] <Dr_willis> babob4722,  Linux 101 - you rarely EVER need to reboot.
[05:53] <Dr_willis> this isent windows. :)
[05:53] <babob4722> ok cool
[05:53] <babob4722> thanks
[05:53] <sungam> Dr_willis, thanks. Would you mind hinting me at how to add a user from command line? :)
[05:53] <Dr_willis> adduser
[05:53] <sungam> Dr_willis, nvm... 'adduser' :)
[05:53] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:53] <babob4722> well it still isnt working, it keeps telling me I need java, but i installed it already
[05:53] <Dr_willis> hard to rember eh. :)
[05:54] <sungam> it is
[05:54] <Jucato> babob4722: how did you install it?
[05:54] <babob4722> sorry to be a pain in the ass
[05:54] <babob4722> through the adept manager
[05:54] <Dr_willis> babob4722,  you may need to exit/restart the browser.....
[05:54] <babob4722> hmmm oh ok thanks
[05:54] <babob4722> i will try that
[05:54] <Pie-rate> Hi everyone, I'm having a little trouble installing kubuntu
[05:55] <sungam> Dr_willis, thanks. I'll try a reboot and see what happens
[05:55] <joe_> Anyone know how to mount an ISO that is on the harddrive?
[05:55] <Pie-rate> this is on my laptop, right behind me
[05:55] <Dr_willis> !loop
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about loop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <Dr_willis> !iso
[05:55] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[05:55] <Pie-rate> it's stuck on "scanning files" with the progress bar at 0%
[05:56] <Pie-rate> the menu is also unresponsive, although the cursor can still move
[05:56] <dennister> what's happening with synaptic and kde? the first keeps failing, and my kde is such a mess I'm thinking of purging and reinstalling
[05:56] <joe_> thanks ubotu, let me try that
[05:57] <eilker> and here is morning, time to sleep for me, see you friends
[05:57] <Pie-rate> The disc verified using the utility provided on it
[05:57] <dennister> bye eilker
[05:58] <eilker> bye to all
[05:58] <Pie-rate> can anyone help me?
[05:58] <dennister> iv'e never had so many failed downloads before :(
[06:00] <dennister> sorry Pie-rate...i've had so many rpblems, but installing kubuntu was never one of them
[06:00] <Pie-rate> This is strange, perhaps I should try the 32 bit version?
[06:00] <sungam> it worked :)
[06:00] <dennister> Pie-rate: defintiely!
[06:01] <sungam> although my proper user is still broken, at least I'm into kde now
[06:01] <sungam> Thanks, Dr_willis
[06:01] <dennister> i tried for months with 64-bit versions, and am glad I switched
[06:01] <sungam> and Telroth_Plushie| :)
[06:01] <Dr_willis> sungam,  heh could do some cleaning of the .kde dir...  or just whipe it out. :) that will reset all the kde settings
[06:01] <Dr_willis> sungam,  been seeing similer issues a lot lately.. not sure what the deal is.
[06:02] <sungam> Dr_willis, it's not juts KDE, though
[06:02] <Pie-rate> What sort of performance difference will running the 32 bit version instead of the 64 bit version give?
[06:02] <sungam> Dr_willis  *kde
[06:02] <Dr_willis> Pie-rate,  proberly not much. unless you do a lot of number crunching.. or got a lot of ram
[06:02] <Pie-rate> 1gb
[06:02] <sungam> Dr_willis, it's all of those window managers (Gnome, KDE, E17, Fluxbox...)
[06:02] <Dr_willis> sungam,  that  seems very very very odd.
[06:03] <sungam> Dr_willis, sounds kind of weird that all of those would get messed up by compiling a kernel
[06:03] <sungam> Dr_willis, and all work with the new user
[06:03] <Pie-rate> Ok, I'd probably have a lot more driver troubles with the 64bit version anyway.
[06:03] <dennister> Dr_willis: i'm thinking of purging my kde completely, it's such a mess...will i have to do a lot of re-configuring of apps and settingsafter I get it back?
[06:03] <_kuja_> 64-bit will only give speed ups in certain areas (like encoding, rendering, extreme number crunching ....)
[06:04] <dennister> yes, Pie-rate...and check the md5sums on iso disks, as well as data verifitcation with your buner
[06:04] <Pie-rate> Of course, that means I have to spend another day downloading
[06:05] <dennister> Pie-rate: consider it an investment: will save u lots of time and frustration with 64-bit later
[06:05] <Pie-rate> I used the verification utility that was on the boot screen for kubuntu
[06:05] <Pie-rate> I bet the torrent for the 32 bit version goes faster than the 64 bit version too...
[06:05] <dennister> as i said earlier, I wasted months struggling with 64-bit distros
[06:06] <Pie-rate> I'll grab kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent then...
[06:07] <dennister> i love edgy...i just used the server first, then added the graphical desktops
[06:07] <Dr_willis> sungam,  ive not messed with the nerel in ages. :)
[06:07] <sungam> Dr_willis, nerel?
[06:10] <MattCa> Hello. Is anyone still awake?
[06:10] <Dr_willis> Its the next geenration Kernel. :)
[06:10] <sungam> Dr_willis  oh.. kernel
[06:10] <Dr_willis> ZZZzzz....
[06:10] <sungam> bah
[06:10] <sungam> :)
[06:10] <Pie-rate> [5.0.0 2006-11-28 21:07:57]  WARNING : Tracker announce still not complete 60 seconds after starting it
[06:10] <Pie-rate> [5.0.0 2006-11-28 21:07:57]  WARNING : Problem connecting to tracker (http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/announce): Timeout while contacting server.
[06:10] <Pie-rate> [5.0.0 2006-11-28 21:09:57]  WARNING : Problem connecting to tracker (http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/announce): Timeout while contacting server.
[06:10] <Pie-rate> why is this happening?
[06:11] <MattCa> what version of GCC is used to compile the Ubuntu Kernel?
[06:11] <sungam> Dr_willis, thanks for all your help so far. Going to see if everything works with the old kernel :)
[06:12] <Hawkwind> MattCa: Edgy or Dapper ?
[06:12] <Pie-rate> weird, just got disconnected
[06:12] <Hawkwind> Probably doesn't matter, probably both 4.x
[06:13] <Pie-rate> Torrent won't start, can't connect to the tracker.
[06:13] <MattCa> Hawkwind: Dapper. I'm going to use the Kubuntu live CD to throw myself into the marvelous adventure of LFS
[06:13] <Dr_willis> Egads! dont do it man!
[06:14] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:14] <MattCa> Was that dripping with sarcasm
[06:14] <Dr_willis> This is a Faimly Channel.. No dripping allowed.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:15] <MattCa> I'll take it as a yes
[06:15] <joe_> thanks ubotu the mounting worked.  I just should have done it in an emty directory.  I deleted 3 of my movies.
[06:15] <Dr_willis> !bot
[06:15] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:16] <Dr_willis> if you mounted over a dir with files in it.. UNMOUNT it.. and the files willl  be there.
[06:16] <Dr_willis> should be at least. :)
[06:17] <dennister> is there something wrong with the ubuntu servers perhaps? Pie-rate's having trouble, i'm having trouble with synaptic...
[06:17] <Dr_willis> could be some are down...
[06:17] <Pie-rate> torrent started now
[06:17] <Pie-rate> took it forever though
[06:18] <Pie-rate> it's going nice and fast too, compared to the AMD64 iso
[06:18] <Pie-rate> about twice as fast
[06:18] <dennister> i'm installing xfce, in preparation for purging kde and starting over, and i keep getting timeouts
[06:18] <Dr_willis> its odd that you would have to 'purge' kde.
[06:18] <sungam> Dr_willis, now I can get into E-17, but KDE is still broken. :)
[06:19] <Jucato> you have to purge config files :)
[06:19] <dennister> it's such a mess...kio, kSycoca, klauncer...
[06:19] <MattCa> Hawkwind: thankds for the info
[06:19] <dennister> kded, kinit...
[06:20] <Pie-rate> still not as fast as it should be, it's going 80KB/s, should be going near 180KB/s, but the wireless bridge from the office to the house has been behaving strangely/slowly recently, so i haven't been getting full T1 speeds at the house.
[06:20] <Pie-rate>  /ramble
[06:20] <dennister> I installed kgdb, and the list of issues is very long, and I'm not that good at debugging yet
[06:20] <seven> where do i find the "task manager" adept says another instand is still running
[06:20] <Hawkwind> Who needs KDE when you have E17 anyways.  :)
[06:20] <Dr_willis> real men use icewm :)
[06:20] <dennister> what in the world is E17?
[06:20] <Hawkwind> !adept crash fix
[06:20] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[06:20] <Hawkwind> !e17
[06:20] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[06:21] <dennister> well i'm not a man :)
[06:21] <Pie-rate> Why join #kubuntu if you don't like KDE? isn't KDE the whole idea of kubuntu rather than ubuntu?
[06:21] <Jucato> !adept crash fix | seven
[06:21] <ubotu> seven: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[06:21] <seven> thanks
[06:22] <sungam> Pie-rate, I don't mind KDE. But E17 is more lightweight. As for why join #kubuntu? I installed it off a Kubuntu disk :)
[06:22] <Pie-rate> Ah.
[06:22] <sungam> and besides... KDE won't work atm :)
[06:22] <dennister> but i'm intereested in icewm actually
[06:22] <Hawkwind> Pie-rate: I use Kubuntu only because I hate Gnome.  I can stand 10 minutes of KDE while E17 compiles, then it's no more KDE for me
[06:23] <Dr_willis> I tried E17... and ... well... i dident see much i needed from it. :)
[06:23] <seven> Jucato: worked
[06:23] <Jucato> Dr_willis: ditto
[06:23] <Pie-rate> The laptop I'm currently working on installing kubuntu on has ATI radeon 1100 graphics. Is there any way to get 3d acceleration/power saving features working?
[06:23] <Jucato> :)
[06:23] <Pie-rate> !ati
[06:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:23] <sungam> Dr_willis, it's the bling
[06:23] <dennister> yes Pie-rate
[06:24] <Dr_willis> bling = fling = a 'one night stand' :)
[06:24] <sungam> true, but it's fun while it lasts
[06:24] <Dr_willis> even the bling i saw wasent that bling-o-riffic (tm)
[06:24] <sungam> besides, at the moment it's proven the only window manager that will start
[06:25] <sungam> you should give it a go again with the most recent CVS
[06:25] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install icewm
[06:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:25] <sungam> they've done loads of updates with the new distro being released (the PS3 one)
[06:25] <Dr_willis> i tried it on a Live cd the other day.
[06:25] <Dr_willis> even isntalled it.
[06:25] <Dr_willis> Dont get me started on the PS3 :)
[06:25] <sungam> :)
[06:25] <Bill57785> ok
[06:25] <Bill57785> I really need help
[06:26] <sungam> Dr_willis, E17 fixed KDE. Now that's loading too... this is weird :/
[06:27] <Dr_willis> hehheh
[06:27] <Pie-rate> doesn't the PS3 have a ridiculously fast CPU in it?
[06:27] <Bill57785> I changed the gamma last night to 2.4 (which is what I used t run on Windows), and I tried booting up tonight, and the screen is scrambled
[06:27] <Dr_willis> PS3 brings  "ridiculous'    to mind..
[06:27] <sungam> Pie-rate, yes.
[06:27] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:27] <Pie-rate> hehe
[06:27] <Bill57785> and I don't have a clue how to change it back in command line
[06:27] <Kai> the ps3 has a cell processor
[06:28] <dennister>  Dr_willis: is that it? just icewm? anything else i should install afterwards?
[06:28] <Dr_willis> dennister,  thats about it.. rahter nice  window manager.
[06:28] <Kai> its not ridiculously fast, but its a new technology that has the potential to become rediculously fast
[06:28] <dennister> ok, well it's installing then :)
[06:29] <Dr_willis> it is ridiculously priced
[06:29] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:29] <Kai> Nah
[06:29] <Bill57785> anyone at all?
[06:29] <sungam> Bill57785, sorry, but I really have no idea. Maybe someone else does, but I don't :)
[06:29] <Kai> thats normal for a new next gen console
[06:30] <dennister> i must say, i'm getting more demanding and less tolerant the more successful I am with linux...started hating gnome after a while, now I'm getting ticked off with kde's problems
[06:30] <Dr_willis> Normal for a 'media-induced-hyped-feeding-frenzy-gotta-have-SOMTHING-for-xmas-hype'
[06:30] <dennister> <-----getting spoiled
[06:30] <Pie-rate> Command-line only IMO.
[06:30] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:30] <macconline> hi.... how  do a new sesion standard ?
[06:31] <sungam> macconline, if it's KDM it'll log into the last session you were logged into, if I remember correctly
[06:31] <dennister> god...christmas...:( "(
[06:31] <Dr_willis> Jingle Bells.....
[06:31] <Dr_willis> Jingle Bells.....
[06:31] <Dr_willis> Jingle all the way... to the bank..
[06:31] <sungam> macconline, so if you log into KDE, KDE will be the standard until you log into something else. Might be mistaken, but I think that's the way it is
[06:31] <dennister> it's going to be quiet around here...even my son doesn't want to go join the big family getogether
[06:32] <Bill57785> lol....I'm stuck in XP right now trying to find the answer to how to change my gamma back and fix everything in command line....I don't know how else to fix it because the screen is scrambled in kubuntu AND ubuntu....
[06:32] <Dr_willis> Perhaps hes asking where the menu  to select the other sessions are at?
[06:32] <macconline> sungam: is that the file ../xsession/kde.desktop
[06:32] <Dr_willis> Bill57785,  how did you change the gamma under linux?
[06:32] <macconline> sungam: i modify...
[06:32] <dennister> k, folks...i'm gonna restart x now that my other desktops are downloaded...bbs
[06:33] <Pie-rate> Bill57785, can you get a command line for kubuntu?
[06:33] <brett_> Does anyone use or know about Drupal?
[06:33] <sungam> macconline, kde.desktop is KDE's load file. If you want to load another window manager yo uhsould create a .desktop for it
[06:33] <Dr_willis> !info drupal
[06:33] <Bill57785> I can get into a command line and not even boot up kubuntu
[06:33] <ubotu> drupal: fully-featured content management/discussion engine. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.5.8-2 (edgy), package size 478 kB, installed size 1944 kB
[06:33] <Bill57785> but other than that, not really
[06:33] <brett_> thanks doctor
[06:33] <sungam> macconline, or not load file, but the menu item in the KDM menu
[06:33] <brett_> hmm
[06:34] <brett_> i just installed it and dont know how to run it. It isn't meant to be run on a server is it?
[06:34] <macconline> sungam: ok,  thanks....
[06:34] <Dr_willis> No idea. check its homepage perhaps.
[06:34] <brett_> yeah i am on it now
[06:34] <Pie-rate> It probably gets the gamma from the x11 config file, right? I'm kinda noob at linux.
[06:34] <brett_> still kinda clueless
[06:35] <Bill57785> the shell is running, I just can't see what's going on (so in other words, if I knew my way around correctly, I could change settings blindly using only my keyboard)
[06:35] <Bill57785> I changed it under the settings in the programs menu, then under display properties
[06:35] <brett_> is there a web developers forum?
[06:35] <Bill57785> and one of the tabs had gamma options
[06:35] <Dr_willis> i dont see how the gamma setting would mess things up Bill57785
[06:36] <Bill57785> well, it's the only thing I can think of....it was the only thing I changed last night, and now it doesn't work
[06:36] <Bill57785> is there anyway to just reset everything to defaults from command line?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> could of been some other update/kernel upgrade perhaps.. theres no 'defaults'  type thing,. :)
[06:37] <Dr_willis> you could boot to single user mode, and reconfigure the X server
[06:37] <tamacracker> can someone help me change my screen resolution?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[06:37] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:38] <Pie-rate> you might try reseting the graphics configuration by replacing the xf86config file with whatever the backup one is called, I'm not an expert on linux so someone else will have to fill in the blanks...
[06:38] <Dr_willis> - its xorg.conf now a days :)
[06:38] <Pie-rate> oh
[06:38] <Pie-rate> i must be getting old
[06:38] <sungam> :)
[06:38] <tamacracker> i just need to change the resolution back to 1280x1024
[06:38] <Pie-rate> 17 you know, starting to forget all these computery things...
[06:40] <tamacracker> And system settings doesn't let me :(
[06:41] <sungam> go to the guide mentioned above :)
[06:42] <Pie-rate> go to the guide mentioned below
[06:42] <Pie-rate> !fixres
[06:42] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:42] <Dr_willis> go to the guide mentioned to the right.... to the left....
[06:42] <Dr_willis> to the middle.. :)
[06:42] <Pie-rate> "Konversation terminated!" that's a good one
[06:43] <Dr_willis> 'answer hazy, ask again later'
[06:43] <Pie-rate> what's with KDE's obsession with K's anyway?
[06:43] <binary2k2> Pie-rate: because it's the K Desktop Environment :p
[06:43] <Dr_willis> Kde is Kool
[06:43] <Jucato> same goes for GNOME  anyway
[06:44] <seven> i got a problem
[06:44] <Pie-rate> Jucato, Not really.
[06:44] <seven> NOTICE TO CUSTOMER This EULA is a contract between you (either an         
[06:44] <seven>                   individual or an entity) and VMware, Inc. ("VMware"), which governs your  
[06:44] <seven>                  
[06:44] <seven>                                                    <Ok>
[06:44] <sungam> I like it. Leaves no confusion :)
[06:44] <sungam> not the EULA, but the obsession with K's and G's
[06:44] <seven> but i can't press ok in adept
[06:44] <Dr_willis> Seveas,  hit tab/click in the sindow perhaps?
[06:45] <binary2k2> seven: ^^ that's to you
[06:45] <seven> no tab dosen't work
[06:45] <Jucato> seven: you can't use Adept to install vmware player
[06:45] <seven> ?
[06:45] <Jucato> seven: close adept, run the "sudo dpkg --configure -a" command in Konsole
[06:45] <Jucato> missing feature in Adept
[06:46] <binary2k2> one of many imho
[06:46] <Dr_willis> i always just use the shell.. :)
[06:46] <tamacracker> that site is not helpin
[06:46] <seven> well at the moment i have the prob that it will come back every restart that vmw is upgradable
[06:46] <tamacracker> right im at 600x800, i just need to change it back to my original settings.
[06:46] <[Amigo] > Hi! Ppl, I install Kubuntu, it's a nice system! Cool :)
[06:47] <binary2k2> seven: once you agree, it won't come back
[06:47] <macconline> sungam: thanks, the problem are that the line Exec=/usr/bin/startkde dont the have.... problem fixer
[06:47] <tamacracker> Amigo welcome to one of the most difficult versions of linux.
[06:47] <Jucato> seven: what do you mean?
[06:47] <Jucato> tamacracker: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ??
[06:48] <binary2k2> tamacracker: it's not, try slack, that's difficult
[06:48] <[Amigo] > tamacracker, thank you! I'm happy :)
[06:48] <sungam> wlan disconnected :(
[06:48] <tamacracker> Jucato... what will that exactly do?
[06:48] <Bill57785> Jucato: What exactly does that line do?
[06:48] <Bill57785> lol
[06:49] <Jucato> tamacracker: reconfigure the X server. part of the process allows you to chose your resolutions
[06:49] <Bill57785> I just wonder if it might help me as well
[06:49] <tamacracker> ah good good
[06:49] <Bill57785> I'll give it a try if these other things don't work
[06:49] <seven> binary2k2: i would agree if i could
[06:49] <Dr_willis> tamacracker,  just becuse you are having issues... dont be so  bitter.
[06:49] <seven> Jucato: i can't even uninstall
[06:50] <Jucato> seven: I thought you were trying to install?
[06:50] <tamacracker> kubuntu just logged onto a crappy resolution
[06:50] <binary2k2> seven: run that command in konsole and you can install (and agree to the EULA)
[06:50] <tamacracker> and the system settings will not let me control my own damn resolutions
[06:50] <tamacracker> i think at the operator of this machine, my system settings should let me access and configure anything i'd like for my personal flavor.
[06:51] <binary2k2> tamacracker: that's because it not set to go any higher in xorg.conf, that's why you reconfigure the x server to change that
[06:51] <tamacracker> and at the moment this is where kubuntu is slacking.
[06:51] <Bill57785> ok, here goes nothing...can't make it any worse...thanks all
[06:52] <Jucato> tamacracker: I forgot, restart X after you finished reconfiguring. Ctrl+Alt+Backspace (be sure to save everything you need first)
[06:53] <tamacracker> Ugh... Gnome is too user friendly and made me lazy.
[06:54] <Jucato> can anyone adjust their resolutions (to a lower setting) using Monitors & Display in System Settings?
[06:55] <binary2k2> Jucato: yeah
[06:55] <Jucato> hm... strange...
[06:55] <Jucato> I can't :P
[06:56] <Jucato> I only realized this now hahaha
[06:56] <binary2k2> you on edgy or dapper?
[06:56] <sungam> Jucato, me either :)
[06:56] <momal> Anyone know of a good program like devede but with menu support? (Eg what Nero Vision did on windows)
[06:56] <Jucato> edgy
[06:56] <sungam> same
[06:56] <binary2k2> hmm, me too
[06:56] <Jucato> I vaguely remember being able to do so on dapper...
[06:56] <brett_> is there any file browsers that are better then konqueror
[06:57] <Jucato> depends on your definition of "better", which is very subjective
[06:57] <sungam> Jucato, bet someone inverted some variable. So that the resolution in xorg.conf is the smallest instead of the largest :)
[06:57] <binary2k2> brett_: depends on what you need it for i guess, but konqueror rocks :p
[06:58] <brett_> binary2k2: it has been crashing on me
[06:58] <sungam> brett_: I'm a fan of swiftfox :)
[06:58] <binary2k2> sungam: as a file browser?
[06:58] <Jucato> brett_: do you mean Konqueror crashes when managing files or when browsing web pages?
[06:58] <sungam> binary2k2 , sorry... thought you meant web browser
[06:59] <binary2k2> :p
[06:59] <Jucato> :P
[06:59] <brett_> browsing webpages lately... but also when browsing files
[06:59] <Jucato> Firefox is a popular option
[06:59] <brett_> yeah i have firefox... but konquer auto loads when i click on a link from irc
[06:59] <sungam> brett_ , sorry... getting tired... been up all night, not studying :(
[06:59] <brett_> so i use konquer when i get a link from here
[07:00] <sungam> brett_ , think that's a known bug in Edgy
[07:00] <binary2k2> brett_: you can change that
[07:00] <brett_> really?
[07:00] <Jucato> what's a known bug?
[07:00] <brett_> how?
[07:00] <Jucato> brett_: System Settings -> Default Applications
[07:00] <sungam> that it it doesn't remember that Konqueror's not your default browser
[07:00] <binary2k2> brett_: in Konversation?
[07:01] <brett_> binary2k2: huh?
[07:01] <Jucato> sungam: it does. the only problem is that non-KDE apps do not honor KDE's settings
[07:01] <Jucato> brett_: have you even change the default browser already?
[07:01] <binary2k2> brett_: the IRC client
[07:01] <brett_> Jucato: yes i just did
[07:01] <brett_> binary2k2: what about the irc client?
[07:02] <brett_> Jucato: thanks for the settings fix
[07:02] <binary2k2> brett_: which one are you using, konversation?
[07:02] <Jucato> brett_: it works now?
[07:02] <bill57785> sweet, got rid of the scrambled screen (had to replace the existing config with the backup)....thanks everyone ^_^
[07:02] <brett_> binary2k2: yes konversation
[07:02] <Jucato> brett_: take note that non-KDE apps might not follow this setting
[07:02] <brett_> Jucato: yes it loads firefox now
[07:02] <Jucato> good
[07:02] <binary2k2> brett_: go to Settings, then "Configure Konversation"
[07:03] <brett_> binary2k2: what am i doing in there?
[07:03] <Jucato> binary2k2: it's done already
[07:03] <sungam> Jucato , I'm gonna shut up before I make a fool of myself, but I'm pretty sure I saw it on a "knownIssues" page of a wiki :)
[07:03] <Jucato> binary2k2: <brett_> Jucato: yes it loads firefox now
[07:03] <binary2k2> brett_: then click on the "General" tab under "Behaviour"
[07:03] <brett_> heh
[07:03] <brett_> thanks guys
[07:03] <brett_> brb
[07:04] <Jucato> sungam: it's a known issue for non-KDE apps, like I said. which is only logical since you're only changing the default KDE browser only, not GNOME's/GTK's, etc.
[07:04] <Jucato> at that point, the solution is to use this command: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[07:05] <sungam> :)
[07:06] <binary2k2> I did both, but konversition ignored both settings
[07:06] <binary2k2> strange
[07:06] <tamacracker> nvm i used a game to change the resolution.
[07:06] <tamacracker> thanks.
[07:13] <dennister> checked out icewm, now in xfce for second time...crashing all over the place, the second i log in :(
[07:13] <seven> thanks binary2k2 and Jucato worked now where do i get the *.vmx files
[07:14] <Jucato> vmware.com
[07:14] <seven> i thought so
[07:14] <dennister> of course, latest crash was knotify...sig 11
[07:14] <binary2k2> seven: If you want to create you own, use http://www.easyvmx.com/
[07:15] <Jucato> seven: http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/
[07:15] <seven> thanks for your help
[07:15] <Jucato> hm.. easyvmx... interesting
[07:16] <binary2k2> yeah, found it when vmware server stoped workin on edgy :p
[07:16] <dennister> why in the world is knotify bugging me with it's crashes if i'm not in kde?
[07:16] <dennister> is it because I'm using some kapps?
[07:17] <Jucato> binary2k2: server is still working for me here... although I can't go to any tty in VMWare
[07:18] <binary2k2> Jucato: I haven't tryed to install it an a while, the kernel module wouldn't compile, so I used vmware player and easyvmx to create the .vmx files
[07:18] <Jucato> binary2k2: and what do you use to modify the .vmx files?
[07:18] <dennister> i don't understand at all how these different desktops and apps work...wondering if I shouldn't start from scratch again...but I've put so much work into this installation
[07:18] <Jucato> you do it by hand?
[07:19] <binary2k2> Jucato: yeah, kate notmaly
[07:19] <Jucato> binary2k2: and vmware tools?
[07:19] <magnusda> what's the easiest way to purge all my kde settings for a user? remove .kde/ from the home directory?
[07:20] <binary2k2> Jucato: I have the ISOs from the vmware server install package
[07:20] <Jucato> anyway.. time for bed... bye! :)
[07:20] <Jucato> aaah
[07:20] <dennister> night jucato
[07:20] <binary2k2> Jucato: so i just use them
[07:20] <Jucato> smart move :)
[07:20] <Jucato> anyway.. bye! :)
[07:22] <dennister> i think it's time for sleep myself...i'll wait until my tuner comes back from hophog and see how the situation is then
[07:22] <magnusda> it's kinda strange. The only two window managers that will load are Fluxbox and E17. Gnome, KDE and Metacity refuse to load :)
[07:22] <dennister> good night all
[07:22] <magnusda> dennister  g'nite
[07:26] <RawSushi> man..I'm running the game nexuiz
[07:26] <RawSushi> and it's laggy
[07:26] <RawSushi> I wonder how to fix it
[07:27] <RawSushi> it plays nice and everything when it's not skipping
[07:32] <Admiral_Chicago> magnusda: X error?
[07:42] <Pie-rate> is it unethical to download all of futurama from thepiratebay.org?
[07:45] <binary2k2> Pie-rate: depends if you get caught :P
[07:45] <seven> i got one more problems   every once in a while my screen size changes to very big icons   sometimes it helps to restartx    nothing changed in kcontrol  or /etc/X11/xorg.conf    i might have the wrong driver
[07:45] <Pie-rate> does it cost the creators of futurama anything?
[07:46] <seven> graphic card  nv   driver nv  in kcontrol
[07:47] <Pie-rate> might want to get the official nvidia drivers
[07:48] <binary2k2> Pie-rate: only if you were gonna buy it, then it costs them
[07:48] <binary2k2> Pie-rate: but it's still illegal
[07:48] <seven> this one was autodetected
[07:48] <seven> how do i know which one i need
[07:48] <Pie-rate> except it's still perfectly legal to record it from the TV
[07:49] <marvelous> hi
[07:49] <binary2k2> !nvidia > seven
[07:49] <noiesmo> I don't think so Pie-rate if you check you will find that public opinion is it's ok but the law says no
[07:49] <marvelous> can anybody help me_ I-ve troubles getting beryl to work
[07:50] <binary2k2> marvelous: what trouble?
[07:50] <Pie-rate> except millions of people have TiVO, and if TiVO did anything illegal then it would be sued into oblivion, being the large public company that it is
[07:51] <marvelous> when I run it, all the windows crash and everything stops working so I need to mannually restart the pc
[07:51] <binary2k2> marvelous: how/from where did you install it
[07:51] <Pie-rate> i was about to type more but i wont start a discussion on the ethical and legal implications of downloading and/or recording tv shows
[07:52] <Pie-rate> here
[07:52] <binary2k2> Pie-rate: do that in #amievil :P
[07:52] <marvelous> from the Konsole I did apt-get
[07:52] <Pie-rate> 1 person in room
[07:53] <binary2k2> Pie-rate: i just made it up, didn't think it was real :p
[07:53] <Pie-rate> the 1 person was me
[07:53] <binary2k2> marvelous: did you follow the guide on the ubuntu help/wiki site?
[07:53] <binary2k2> Pie-rate: that's why then
[07:54] <marvelous> yep
[07:54] <binary2k2> marvelous: what video card do you have?
[07:54] <marvelous> i-ve been trying with lots of them but always geetin troubles
[07:55] <binary2k2> marvelous: is it with XGL or AIGLX?
[07:55] <marvelous> ati a9250 gamer edition
[07:56] <marvelous> aiglx
[07:57] <binary2k2> marvelous: I think the ATI cards need to use XGL, with the binary drivers
[07:59] <marvelous> and where can i get them? or is there a lace with a full beryl instalation guide for this one??
[07:59] <kai> hello every one, I have question as tohow I can totally get rid og gnome desktop
[07:59] <binary2k2> !ati | marvelous
[07:59] <ubotu> marvelous: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:00] <binary2k2> marvelous: and follow the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[08:01] <binary2k2> kai: are you on edgy ot dapper?
[08:01] <marvelous> thks a lot
[08:01] <binary2k2> marvelous: no problem :)
[08:01] <kai> 6.06
[08:01] <marvelous> i'll check them right away
[08:01] <kai> I think iots Edgy
[08:01] <binary2k2> kai: 6.06 is dapper
[08:01] <kai> I had Suse 10.1
[08:02] <binary2k2> kai: there is no easy way to get rid of the gnome desktop, that i know of
[08:02] <kai> so ubuntu is new to new to me and I dread the gnome and want nothing to do with it  and want to get rid of anything dealing with it
[08:02] <kai> really? Where would I start to get .mpeg and mp3 support?
[08:03] <wildchild> khm, wine can't load application
[08:03] <binary2k2> !mp3 | kai
[08:03] <ubotu> kai: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:03] <magnusda> binary2k2, would't removing 'ubuntu-desktop' package do it?
[08:04] <binary2k2> magnusda: 'ubuntu-desktop' is just a metapackage and removeing it will do nothing
[08:04] <wildchild> why can't start application wine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34708/
[08:04] <kai> really, I think I tried something like that and it didnt do anything, I figure I could save some space cus I will never use the gnome again
[08:04] <magnusda> binary2k2 , ah. Thought it uninstalled the same packages as it installed :)
[08:05] <binary2k2> magnusda: no, on edgy they intorduced the "apt-get autoremove" which will let you do it, but it's not on dapper
[08:05] <kai> but can't I upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10?
[08:06] <magnusda> binary2k2 , ah, ok. Thanks for clarifying
[08:06] <binary2k2> wildchild: have you tried in #wine ?
[08:06] <wildchild> no..
[08:06] <binary2k2> kai: if you can, you could save your files to a CD/DVD/USB stick and install kubuntu
[08:07] <wildchild> there is only 2 nicks
[08:07] <wildchild> me and someone else..
[08:07] <wildchild> so..
[08:07] <kai> That sux, I got the Ubuntu dvds from their website
[08:08] <kai> ..and all I got was the ubuntu ones
[08:09] <binary2k2> wildchild: try #wineHQ
[08:09] <noiesmo> wildchild, you are trying to run a key generator its hardly an app
[08:09] <binary2k2> kai: there is a Kubuntu DVD too
[08:10] <kai> I didn't know that
[08:11] <binary2k2> kai: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release.1/
[08:11] <wildchild> hello noiesmo, but it is app, it's exe
[08:11] <kai> thank you
[08:12] <ironfroggy> are there any packages for Stackless?
[08:12] <binary2k2> your welcome :)
[08:12] <binary2k2> ironfroggy: what's Stackless?
[08:13] <ironfroggy> a branch of python that doesnt use the C-stack for calls.
[08:14] <binary2k2> than i don't know then, check on http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[08:20] <magnusda> brb
[08:25] <londo4> How can I login Msn via kopete?\
[08:26] <binary2k2> londo4: select MSN as the protocol to use
[08:26] <wildchild> !picasa
[08:26] <ubotu> Picasa from Google can be downloaded in .deb format from: http://picasa.google.com/linux/download.html
[08:27] <RawSushi> question...When I plug in my mic, the amplifier is on
[08:28] <RawSushi> How do I turn it off?
[08:28] <kraut> moin
[08:28] <RawSushi> kmix doesn't seem to get rid of it
[08:29] <binary2k2> RawSushi: did you turn the "Mic Boost (+20dB)" off?
[08:29] <RawSushi> yeah it's off
[08:29] <RawSushi> it was already off
[08:30] <binary2k2> RawSushi: then it may be a hardware thing then
[08:30] <RawSushi> hmm
[08:30] <RawSushi> man there's several things about my box that needs fixing
[08:31] <RawSushi> I have windows and linux both set up on different hard drives
[08:31] <binary2k2> like on my kubuntu box, the mic is loud, on another win box, you can't hear a thing
[08:31] <RawSushi> and when I boot into linux, my clock is messed up, but my windows one is fine
[08:31] <RawSushi> then I fix the one in linux
[08:31] <RawSushi> and my windows one messes up
[08:32] <RawSushi> right now it says 7:31
[08:32] <RawSushi> and it's more like 1:31
[08:32] <RawSushi> am
[08:32] <binary2k2> did you set the timezone right, 7:31 is the UTC time
[08:32] <jason> have you readjusted the clock and made sure you are set to the correct time zone?
[08:34] <RawSushi> I've tried everything I think
[08:34] <RawSushi> Do I do this in KDE?
[08:35] <jason> yes right click on the clock and go to configure
[08:35] <jason> there will be a tab for timezones
[08:36] <binary2k2> in "Adjust Date & Time..."
[08:37] <kai> I found a way to totally get rid of gnome
[08:37] <kai> ..if any one cares
[08:38] <binary2k2> kai: do tell ... :)
[08:38] <labkom> \server plasa
[08:38] <kai> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekdedapper
[08:38] <kai> the very first code set
[08:39] <kai> cut copy and past :)
[08:39] <kai> well it works
[08:40] <binary2k2> forgot about aptitude
[08:40] <londo4> I try to connect msn, but I get this Warning:  If you have a router/firevell. please check thaaaat yyu
[08:40] <binary2k2> londo4: do you have a firewall or router?
[08:41] <londo4> that you  have port 26375 udp open. Decentrallised tracking require this
[08:41] <londo4> no I have switch
[08:41] <londo4> I have cisco 1900 switcher
[08:42] <londo4> yesterday was working good
[08:44] <binary2k2> londo4: that do any port forwarding?
[08:44] <londo4> yes
[08:45] <binary2k2> londo4: is it setup to forward that port to your computer? (26375)
[08:47] <londo4> yes
[08:47] <RawSushi> man
[08:47] <RawSushi> my box crashed again
[08:47] <RawSushi> that's the second time
[08:47] <RawSushi> now I wonder what's causing that
[08:47] <RawSushi> it hard froze twice
[08:48] <binary2k2> londo4: if it won't work then. it may be a network issue. either with MSN or your ISP
[08:48] <londo4> Ok
[08:49] <RawSushi> so I fixed my clock
[08:49] <RawSushi> now to get rid of the hard crashed
[08:49] <RawSushi> crashes
[08:49] <RawSushi> I just got a new video card..wonder if it has anything to do with that
[08:49] <binary2k2> londo4: try and get your friends on to another network, MSN is flakey (and owned by the evil one :P )
[08:50] <binary2k2> RawSushi: if the crashes started when you installed the card, then thats a safe bet
[08:50] <kruemeltee> :-)
[08:51] <londo4> I  have another computer connected on the same switch but msn is werking
[08:51] <londo4> working good
[08:51] <binary2k2> londo4: do you have a local firewall then?
[08:51] <RawSushi> it's a better card and all
[08:51] <RawSushi> my older one was an nvidia and this one is an nvidia
[08:51] <londo4> kruemeltee: good morning
[08:52] <RawSushi> I had my nvidia driver installed already from the old one
[08:52] <londo4> binary2k2: No
[08:52] <RawSushi> and I got this one
[08:52] <binary2k2> RawSushi: what driver, open or binary?
[08:52] <RawSushi> and all I did was edited xorg.conf
[08:52] <RawSushi> and changed nv to nvidia
[08:52] <RawSushi> hm
[08:52] <RawSushi> oh..binary
[08:52] <londo4> binary2k2: I did not  install a firewall on this system
[08:52] <binary2k2> it may be the nvidia driver not playing nice with the kernel
[08:53] <RawSushi> but anyway
[08:53] <RawSushi> man I want to fix me up a nice desktop :/
[08:53] <binary2k2> londo4: then I'm flummoxed, try connecting with gaim
[08:53] <RawSushi> I want to get creative here
[08:53] <londo4> ok
[08:53] <RawSushi> I want to fix it where everything I need is there quick
[08:53] <RawSushi> and I want it high tech looking :P
[08:54] <RawSushi> can't decide what to use though
[08:54] <Pie-rate> will 64 bit ever be widely adopted?
[08:55] <binary2k2> Pie-rate: eventually, but most apps are 32bit, so untill they are ported and more are written for 64bit, 32bit will be most used
[08:56] <binary2k2> RawSushi: beryl is cool and high-tech looking :P
[08:56] <RawSushi> not only that but I want it to be easy to get around on
[08:57] <RawSushi> when I'm on LSD
[08:57] <RawSushi> I get on my computer
[08:57] <RawSushi> and I have trouble figuring things out sometimes
[08:57] <RawSushi> whether in windows or linux
[08:57] <binary2k2> then don't do LSD :P
[08:57] <RawSushi> and I want to get around this when I'm tripping
[08:57] <RawSushi> my mind is just going too much
[08:57] <cox377> when something is loading under ubuntu the image icon bounces up and down, is there anyway to turn that into a timer or something similar to the rotating wheel like under ubuntu?
[08:58] <RawSushi> for me to figure some things out
[08:58] <RawSushi> my mind wanders on LSD
[08:58] <RawSushi> I certainly won't stop doing L
[08:58] <RawSushi> but anyway..enough about LSD
[08:58] <RawSushi> beryl..
[08:58] <binary2k2> cox377: change the curser theme
[08:58] <cox377> kk
[08:58] <cox377> binary2k2: is that under settings?
[08:58] <Pie-rate> god i hate that fucking bouncing icon
[08:58] <binary2k2> yeah, Look and Feel i think
[08:59] <RawSushi> ...
[08:59] <binary2k2> Pie-rate: why don't youturn it off?
[08:59] <RawSushi> apparently beryl isn't a windowmanager
[08:59] <Pie-rate> i intend to as soon as i can get kubuntu installed
[08:59] <binary2k2> RawSushi: huh?
[08:59] <RawSushi> oh!
[08:59] <RawSushi> beryl is nice
[09:00] <RawSushi> I wouldn't say high tech looking
[09:00] <RawSushi> but nice
[09:00] <RawSushi> I want it
[09:00] <binary2k2> it's high-tech looking when you get the 3D rotating desktop cube :p
[09:01] <RawSushi> I take it it's not free
[09:01] <RawSushi> and obsolete?
[09:01] <binary2k2> berly, no
[09:01] <binary2k2> free and recent
[09:02] <RawSushi> beryl or berly?
[09:02] <binary2k2> beryl
[09:02] <RawSushi> ah
[09:02] <binary2k2> don't take any notice of my typeos
[09:03] <binary2k2> :P
[09:03] <RawSushi> so..
[09:03] <RawSushi> I want it..
[09:03] <RawSushi> man I hadn't used linux in a while
[09:03] <RawSushi> I lost my touch
[09:03] <binary2k2> !beryl | RawSushi
[09:03] <ubotu> RawSushi: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:04] <RawSushi> hm
[09:05] <RawSushi> how can I tell if I have Dapper?
[09:05] <RawSushi> man..I feel like a complete n00b
[09:05] <binary2k2> RawSushi: cat /etc/lsb-release
[09:05] <binary2k2> ok, now i'm away :P
[09:06] <RawSushi> thanks
[09:09] <londo4> binary2k2: Its working with gaim
[09:12] <binary2k2> londo4: it's a problem with kopete then
[09:12] <binary2k2> londo4: file a bug report
[09:12] <Kream> hi all
[09:12] <binary2k2> !bugs | londo4
[09:12] <ubotu> londo4: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[09:19] <naught101> ever time I start konversation from kubuntu, I get this error: "No addressbook IDs given" - any idea why, or how I fix it?
[09:19] <londo4> How can I solve this problem: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[09:20] <Vladdy> adding the gpg key for that place to your repository
[09:20] <binary2k2> londo4: in konsole run "gpg --recv-keys F120156012B83718"
[09:21] <binary2k2> londo4: then "gpg --export -a 12B83718|sudo apt-key add -"
[09:21] <binary2k2> londo4: notice the '-' at the end is important
[09:23] <londo4> binary2k2: With the last comand I get this: gpg: WARNING: nothing exported, gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found
[09:23] <mr_interweb> Does anyone know of a list of package source mirrors for  apt
[09:24] <binary2k2> londo4: did you run the 1st command?
[09:24] <m0ns00n> Except for phpmyadmin and mysql (the shell command!), is there any _good_ mysql editors like old msqlcc using qt or sqlyog (using wine)?
[09:24] <londo4> yes, did it again now is good
[09:25] <m0ns00n> londo4: that's a britney song =)
[09:25] <mr_interweb> m0ns00n, check out the mysql site.  they have some free GUIs
[09:25] <m0ns00n> mr_interweb: the gtk ones aren't really up to it
[09:25] <m0ns00n> mr_interweb: I'm thinking of the scale of old mysqlcc and sqlyog
[09:26] <londo4> binary2k2: but the problem is still
[09:26] <m0ns00n> mr_interweb: I'm pretty knowing about the various clients, but perhaps I've overlooked something
[09:26] <londo4> it did not solve the problem
[09:26] <binary2k2> londo4: when you ran the 2nd command, did it say "OK" after?
[09:26] <mr_interweb> I usually use Navicat
[09:27] <mr_interweb> but that one is anything but free
[09:28] <mr_interweb> m0ns00n: I don't know of any decent opensource mysql editors
[09:28] <m0ns00n> mr_interweb: :-/ then I'm in the know at least. Old mysqlcc was a step in the right direction but mysql.com killed it
[09:39] <Pie-rate> ok the kubuntu installer crashed, this time it was the 32 bit version and it gave an error report
[09:40] <Pie-rate> could it be a bad hard drive maybe? because the whole reason i'm installing kubuntu is windows was corrupted
[09:40] <cpk1> explain this to me: fstab says /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0 but trying to mount it i get mount: special device /dev/hdd does not exist
[09:41] <binary2k2> Pie-rate: what's the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[09:41] <Pie-rate> mmm, hold on
[09:41] <Pie-rate> the kubuntu live cd crashed completely
[09:42] <Pie-rate> menu/task bar thing disappeared and then the whole thing went unresponsive
[09:42] <Pie-rate> starting it again
[09:42] <binary2k2> use pastebin to show the output
[09:42] <binary2k2> !pastebin | Pie-rate
[09:42] <ubotu> Pie-rate: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:43] <mr_interweb> Anyone know where a good list of package mirrors are to add to Adept?
[09:44] <binary2k2> mr_interweb: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ has a big list the packages download pages: http://tinyurl.com/y836vn
[09:45] <Pie-rate> buffer i/o error on device hdb
[09:45] <Pie-rate> ,logical block 307322
[09:45] <Pie-rate> i'm thinking hdb is the dvd drive, and hda is the hard drive?
[09:46] <mr_interweb> binary2k2: Thanks for the tip
[09:46] <livingdaylight> i've never seen a more thorough test print  - it wants to KOMPLETELY drain me of my color cartridges
[09:46] <Pie-rate> can someone tell me if the above message is correct so i can stop panicing about my harddrive being screwed over?
[09:47] <Pie-rate> binary2k2: (00:44:56) Pie-rate: buffer i/o error on device hdb
[09:47] <Pie-rate> (00:45:10) Pie-rate: ,logical block 307322
[09:47] <Pie-rate> (00:45:29) Pie-rate: i'm thinking hdb is the dvd drive, and hda is the hard drive?
[09:49] <binary2k2> Pie-rate: hda is the primary master drive, hdb is the primary slave, hdc is the secondaty master ..etc
[09:49] <Pie-rate> this is a laptop
[09:49] <Pie-rate> there is only 1
[09:49] <Pie-rate> in terms of hard drives
[09:49] <Pie-rate> but i suppose the primary slave could be the dvd drive
[09:49] <binary2k2> not just hard drives, CD/DVD drives count too
[09:50] <Pie-rate> yeah
[09:50] <livingdaylight> is there an easy photo printing facility in Kubuntu (KDE) In Gnome they have something called Gnome-photo-printer which simply lets one eaily access , size and print photos without having to open Gimp or something big and complicated
[09:50] <Pie-rate> ok so i suppose its the disc?
[09:50] <Pie-rate> or the disc drive possibly
[09:50] <Pie-rate> god this is such a pain in the ass
[09:50] <binary2k2> Pie-rate: what dose /etc/cdrom symlink point to, that's normally the cd/dvd drive
[09:51] <binary2k2> damn
[09:51] <Pie-rate> why don't the cheap ass cd-rs my parents buy ever work?
[09:51] <Pie-rate> its still loading again
[09:51] <Pie-rate> it might have a read error again too
[09:51] <binary2k2> its /dev/cdrom
[09:51] <Pie-rate> so i don't know
[09:52] <binary2k2> Pie-rate: how old is the laptop?
[09:52] <Pie-rate> Buffer I/O error on device HDB
[09:52] <Pie-rate> 2 weeks
[09:52] <Pie-rate> ACER 5100 series
[09:53] <binary2k2> laptops normaly will have hda as the hard drive and hdc as the cd/dvd drive
[09:53] <binary2k2> don't know what hdb is
[09:54] <guglielf> hi, i'm using konversation, does anyone know how to filter part/join messages in the chan window?
[09:54] <Pie-rate> i'm pretty sure it's the cd drive
[09:55] <binary2k2> guglielf: it's in the settings
[09:55] <malician> hiya all, i'm trying to install kubuntu and it keeps crashing at the same point every time
[09:55] <livingdaylight>  is there an easy photo printing facility in Kubuntu (KDE) In Gnome they have something called Gnome-photo-printer which simply lets one eaily access , size and print photos without having to open Gimp or something big and complicated
[09:55] <malician> it copies all the files, and then it crashes @ 67% - which is creating users
[09:55] <guglielf> binary2k2: k, tnx go diggin there
[09:55] <Pie-rate> ok i have an unlabeled ubuntu disc here, how do i know what version it is from windows?
[09:56] <livingdaylight> AND can someone tell me why i have xine movie player twice in my menu?
[09:56] <binary2k2> guglielf: settings > behaviour -> chat window
[09:57] <malician> I have no idea what to do
[09:57] <malician> or how to get the install to work
[09:57] <binary2k2> Pie-rate: thare's a file on the root of the diak that tells you
[09:58] <Pie-rate> Ubuntu 6.06 "Dapper Drake"
[09:58] <Pie-rate> yeah found it
[09:58] <guglielf> binary2k2: found! tnk you mate
[09:58] <binary2k2> guglielf: no problem
[09:59] <livingdaylight> and is there xane in kubuntu or do i have to install it?
[10:00] <Pie-rate> well at this point i'm just hoping its the disc and not the cpu, ram, or hdd
[10:00] <Pie-rate> or disc drive
[10:00] <livingdaylight> Pie-rate: who are you?
[10:00] <binary2k2> Pie-rate: did you run a md5sum check on the disk?
[10:00] <livingdaylight> Pie-rate: are you just flooding the chat room or what?
[10:01] <binary2k2> livingdaylight: why'd you think that?
[10:01] <Pie-rate> livingdaylight: not intentionally
[10:01] <livingdaylight> Pie-rate: i can't get a word in edgways and i've never come to #kubuntu and not got any help - is it due to you mouthing off so much?
[10:02] <binary2k2> livingdaylight: if you don't get a reply, then no one knows here
[10:02] <livingdaylight> binary2k2: where are all the regular gurus who know everything?
[10:02] <nino> !upgrade
[10:02] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[10:02] <Pie-rate> binary2k2: no, i did not.
[10:03] <livingdaylight> Pie-rate: don't you have some homework to do?
[10:03] <Pie-rate> livingdaylight: don't you have somewhere else to go and be an attention whore?
[10:03] <livingdaylight> ooooohh! :o
[10:03] <binary2k2> !patience | livingdaylight
[10:03] <ubotu> livingdaylight: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:04] <livingdaylight> @lark | binary2k2
[10:04] <binary2k2> that won't work in here
[10:04] <livingdaylight> hehe
[10:04] <malician> mreh.  being that the last two attempted installs crashed while it was creating users
[10:05] <malician> I'm trying this install with different username
[10:05] <malician> and hoping that changes things
[10:05] <malician> does anybody know of some bug that causes the 6.10 install cd to crash when it's in the creating users part of the installation process?
[10:05] <malician> and/or how I could bypass it?
[10:06] <livingdaylight> malician: skip it
[10:06] <malician> huh?
[10:06] <binary2k2> malician: I don't know of any bug like that, but check http://bugs.ubuntu.com/
[10:06] <livingdaylight> malician: are you creating multi users?
[10:06] <malician> Nope
[10:06] <livingdaylight> just you?
[10:06] <malician> i'm just filling out the form in the install process
[10:07] <livingdaylight> geez
[10:07] <malician> username, name, password, etc
[10:07] <livingdaylight> have you checked the cd?
[10:07] <binary2k2> the install only sets up one user
[10:07] <livingdaylight> binary2k2: true, forgot
[10:07] <livingdaylight> malician: have you checked the cd for defects?
[10:07] <malician> No - I guess I should do that if this install fails
[10:07] <malician> how long does that usually take?
[10:08] <livingdaylight> 2,3,4 minutes
[10:08] <malician> oh, wow.  i thought it was like 40
[10:08] <livingdaylight> malician: its the first thing you do, otherwise you could waste time
[10:08] <binary2k2> depends on drive speed and cpu power tho
[10:08] <livingdaylight> malician: reboot your cd and click on check cd for defects or whatever it says
[10:09] <livingdaylight> binary2k2, is again right, the quoted time is how long it takes here  on a P4, 3ghz with 512ram
[10:09] <malician> willdo if this install fails
[10:10] <[Amigo] > What doing Katapult?
[10:11] <binary2k2> [Amigo] : huh?
[10:11] <malician> yeah, it crashed again thsi time - rebooting to check cd for errors
[10:11] <[Amigo] > What role in KDE?
[10:12] <[Amigo] > binary2k2, if I remove it aplication?
[10:12] <binary2k2> [Amigo] : if you remove it, KDE will be fine
[10:13] <[Amigo] > binary2k2, seriosly?
[10:13] <binary2k2> [Amigo] : yes, it's an optional application
[10:15] <[Amigo] > binary2k2, when I remove Katapult, apt-get write me: (next packets will be removed katapult kubuntu-desktop) - it's normaly?
[10:15] <Pie-rate> Is there any way to install kubuntu using a 512mb usb drive?
[10:15] <binary2k2> [Amigo] : kubuntu-desktop is a meta-package, you can remove it safely
[10:16] <Vladdy> Pie-rate: sure.. if you have an existing linux
[10:16] <[Amigo] > binary2k2, OK.
[10:16] <Pie-rate> Vladdy: what do you mean?
[10:16] <binary2k2> Pie-rate: I don't think 512mb is enough, unless you do a net-install
[10:16] <[Amigo] > binary2k2, next question?
[10:16] <Vladdy> but it's not easy lol
[10:16] <Vladdy> easiest is to burn a kubuntu cd
[10:17] <Pie-rate> well i have no cd-rs right now
[10:17] <[Amigo] > binary2k2,  thnx
[10:17] <Vladdy> g2g
[10:17] <[Amigo] > bay
[10:17] <[Amigo] > buy
[10:17] <[Amigo] > :)
[10:17] <Pie-rate> of the two i had left one of them i put the amd64 version on which i didn't like and the other ended up corrupted i guess
[10:18] <Pie-rate> "  !" oh noes, a terrorist!
[10:18] <Jucatulog> hm...
[10:21] <Pie-rate> is there any way to install kubuntu without a cd?
[10:21] <abattoir> Pie-rate: sure
[10:22] <abattoir> !install | Pie-rate
[10:22] <ubotu> Pie-rate: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:28] <osiris> has anyone tried dual booting vista and ubuntu ?
[10:29] <binary2k2> osiris: it should be the same as dual booting xp (or any windows) and ubuntu
[10:30] <Pie-rate> I assume since i'm being spammed by "Buffer I/O error on device HDB, logical block 2783XX (where XX is incrementing), my cd is bad?
[10:31] <Pie-rate> this is after a while of running the cd tester
[10:31] <justMatt> Hey guys - I have just done an install of 6.10 - but Konqueror seems to have ultra high latency. Is this a know problem or is there something I should be looking for?
[10:31] <abattoir> Pie-rate: you have 2 hard disks?
[10:31] <Pie-rate> or could it be a bad HDD or CD drive?
[10:31] <Pie-rate> no, its a laptop
[10:32] <abattoir> Pie-rate: then it's most probably the optical drive
[10:32] <abattoir> (generally it's hdc though)
[10:32] <Pie-rate> the drive or the cd?
[10:32] <Pie-rate> please tell me the drive isn't bad...
[10:32] <abattoir> i meant hdb is the drive, yes, the problem should be w/ the cd
[10:32] <abattoir> Pie-rate: is this a pressed disc or did you burn it?
[10:33] <Pie-rate> how would I check the CD without using the cd tester provided on the cd?
[10:33] <Pie-rate> burned
[10:33] <ubuntu> I just checked my disc and it passed the tests
[10:33] <Malician> sorry
[10:33] <Malician> Anyway, I keep getting an usersetupapply error
[10:33] <Malician> when I try to install 6.10
[10:34] <guiden> does mac computers use gnome?
[10:34] <guiden> wrong channel
[10:34] <abattoir> guiden: no, they use OSX by default
[10:35] <guiden> ok
[10:35] <londo4> how can I open a usb storage media,  like usk  pen
[10:35] <Malician> does anybody know how to deal with installations repeatedly failing at the creating user stage?
[10:35] <osiris> aqua i believe is the name
[10:35] <abattoir> londo4: when you plug it in, you'll be asked what you want to do...
[10:36] <mr_interweb> when adept says that it can't install a package "BREAK (Install)" what is the best way to resolve that problem?
[10:36] <abattoir> Malician: the live cd installer?
[10:36] <Malician> yeah
[10:36] <Malician> 6.10
[10:36] <abattoir> mr_interweb: try apt-get, it should be more informative
[10:36] <Malician> it keeps failing every time
[10:36] <abattoir> Malician: the same disk?
[10:36] <Malician> i'm trying it on different hard drives, with all different information / settings
[10:36] <mr_interweb> I'll give that a whirl. thanks
[10:36] <Malician> doesn't seem to matter
[10:36] <Malician> i ran the checksum thing and it passed
[10:36] <abattoir> Malician: looking at the logs might be useful
[10:37] <Pie-rate> how would I check the CD without using the cd tester provided on the cd?
[10:37] <londo4> abattoir: It did not ask
[10:37] <abattoir> londo4: which version? dapper or edgy?
[10:37] <binary2k2> londo4: in Konqueror, go to media:/
[10:38] <londo4> abattoir: dapper 06.6 lts
[10:38] <abattoir> londo4: do what binary2k2 said
[10:39] <Malician> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/73715 i posted a bug report here
[10:40] <Pie-rate> well, looks like its almost time to break out the windows disc...
[10:41] <Malician> Maybe kubuntu is doing a bad job of formatting the drive before it installs?
[10:41] <Malician> That's the only thing I can think of..
[10:41] <londo4> abattoir: I see only  my hda
[10:41] <londo4> binary2k2: I see only myn hda
[10:42] <abattoir> londo4: try 'lsusb' in a terminal, see if your device is listed
[10:42] <binary2k2> londo4: what do you see if you run "dmesg|tail" just after you plug it in
[10:42] <Malician> argh.. it just crashed again
[10:43] <Malician> how do I inspect the logs?
[10:43] <Malician> what do I look for?
[10:43] <Pie-rate> is there a <500mb net install for kubuntu 6.10?
[10:43] <londo4> I will  try
[10:44] <binary2k2> Pie-rate: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation has lots of ways to install
[10:46] <Malician> I don't know what to do.  I don't know what else I can change
[10:46] <Malician> the CD passes checksum, I've tried installing on two different hard drives with different user info every time and it always fails at the creating user stage
[10:47] <Pie-rate> i've seen that, binary2k2. however, i have yet to find something small enough to fit on a 512mb usb stick
[10:48] <mr_interweb> I was able to find the offending package with the command line apt-get, but I don't know how to resolve the issue.  My package sources say that they have the file, but it is still failing
[10:48] <mr_interweb> any ideas
[10:48] <Pie-rate> oh great i can't even find a windows disc...
[10:50] <binary2k2> mr_interweb: if you found the package, install it with apt-get, then try installing the package that failed before
[10:50] <Malician> mweh. does anybody have any idea what I should do or try?
[10:50] <Malician> I'd really like to get ubuntu running
[10:50] <londo4> abattoir: It is not listed
[10:51] <mr_interweb> Package libjack0.100.0-0 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:51] <mr_interweb> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:51] <londo4> binary2k2: it is not listed
[10:51] <mr_interweb> is only available from another source
[10:51] <mr_interweb> E: Package libjack0.100.0-0 has no installation candidate
[10:52] <mr_interweb> maybe I do not have my sources configured right
[10:52] <seven11> mount ntfs-3g command line ?
[10:52] <binary2k2> mr_interweb: you need universe for that package
[10:53] <binary2k2> londo4: did you try looking at the "dmesg|less" command ?
[10:54] <mr_interweb> binary2k2: thank you.  That did the trick
[10:54] <binary2k2> :D
[10:54] <londo4> binary2k2: yes I did
[10:55] <londo4> binary2k2: its also not listed
[10:55] <binary2k2> londo4: what's the output?
[10:55] <binary2k2> !pastebin | londo4
[10:55] <ubotu> londo4: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:55] <Pie-rate> where can i find a kubuntu installer that will fit on a 512mb usb drive? i can't find one on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[10:56] <Jucato> !netinstall
[10:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:56] <Jucato> bah
[10:56] <mr_interweb> good night everyone
[10:57] <binary2k2> good night mr_interweb
[11:00] <londo4> binary2k2: there is the output:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34726/
[11:01] <binary2k2> londo4: what do you get with "lsmod|grep usb" ?
[11:01] <Pie-rate> well i'm giving up. i can't find any CD-Rs, the one that i did manage to burn didn't work, and i can't even find my windows disc to install kubuntu that way.
[11:02] <binary2k2> sorry Pie-rate
[11:02] <Malician> I can't give up
[11:02] <Malician> but I'm not sure where to go from here
[11:02] <Malician> I can't give up 'cause I don't currently have a running operating system
[11:03] <Malician> and I kinda want one
[11:03] <Malician> heh
[11:03] <londo4> binary2k2: lsmod|grep usb nathing
[11:03] <binary2k2> Malician: have you tried the alternate cd ?
[11:04] <Malician> alternate cd?
[11:05] <Malician> kubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso?
[11:06] <Malician> you think i might have better luck downloading / burning that?
[11:06] <binary2k2> Malician: yeah, that's the one, it's a text based install, and has less bugs than the liveCD one
[11:07] <binary2k2> londo4: what do you get when you do: "sudo modprobe usbcore"
[11:07] <Pie-rate> hmm actually, i have a debian 3.1 disc lying around, is there any way i could install kubuntu from debian?
[11:08] <Malician> meh. i'll download that, burn it in the morning
[11:08] <Malician> sure hope it works
[11:08] <Malician> otherwise i'm stuck going back to suse, i guess - assuming i can find a suse disk that works
[11:09] <londo4> binary2k2: also nathing
[11:09] <binary2k2> Pie-rate: you should be able to, but i don't know about that
[11:09] <binary2k2> Pie-rate: try googleing
[11:09] <binary2k2> londo4: anything different with "lsmod|grep usb" ?
[11:10] <cpk1> londo4: having trouble mounting a usb key?
[11:11] <londo4> binary2k2: yes anything different
[11:11] <Pie-rate> i suck at giving up...
[11:11] <londo4> usbcore
[11:11] <binary2k2> londo4: try: "sudo modprobe usb_storage" then remove the usb key and put back in
[11:12] <londo4> binary2k2: USBCORE 130820
[11:12] <cpk1> i noticed the the hal update seems to have fsckd automount
[11:13] <binary2k2> cpk1: usb isn't even being detected on his system
[11:13] <mooreand13213> i know you guys get this a million times a day, but how do i install nvidia drivers under kubuntu?
[11:13] <mooreand13213> total linux newb
[11:13] <binary2k2> !nvidia | mooreand13213
[11:13] <ubotu> mooreand13213: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:14] <cpk1> oh well that could be a problem couldnt it? =P
[11:14] <mooreand13213> lol
[11:14] <binary2k2> londo4: anything happen when you remove and re insert the usb?
[11:14] <milaks> Hi everyone. After I've installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu system, when in KDE my screensaver doesnt start after specified amount of time, instead screen goes black and sometimes it showx (big or small) white 'X'. Can someone please tell me how to enable my screensaver again.
[11:14] <cpk1> but after he does get it to be recognized automount might be messed up for him =)
[11:14] <londo4> nop
[11:15] <binary2k2> londo4: you may have to file a bug report and/or a support request
[11:16] <cpk1> londo4: have you tried mounting it yourself or the hell of it?
[11:16] <binary2k2> cpk1: how can it be mounted, if it's not recognised, no device to mount?
[11:17] <binary2k2> !big | londo4
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about big - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <binary2k2> !bug | londo4
[11:17] <ubotu> londo4: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:17] <binary2k2> londo4: and support requests go here https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+tickets
[11:18] <mooreand13213> !nvidia
[11:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:18] <cpk1> londo4: well i was having trouble with a usb stick today and just mounted it from a root login
[11:18] <londo4> binary2k2: I did not mount it
[11:19] <binary2k2> cpk1: if it's not recognised, no device is created, so i can't be mounted
[11:19] <milaks> Anyone?
[11:20] <binary2k2> milaks: search bug reports
[11:20] <londo4> cpk1: Ok, I will try to do that
[11:20] <londo4> cpk1: do you  have comand to do that?
[11:20] <milaks> binary2k2: Is it a but, because while I've had onlu kde (without the rest od kubuntu-desktop) on ubuntu, everything was fine?
[11:21] <binary2k2> milaks: how did you install without installing kubuntu-desktop?
[11:22] <Jucato> kde-core
[11:22] <cpk1> well it would probably be mount -t usbfs /dev/sda1 /media/somefolderyoucreated or it might be /dev/sdb1/ or i suppose if you had 2 sata drives it would be /dev/sdc1
[11:23] <londo4> ok
[11:23] <cpk1> but ever since the hal updat usbmounting has been screwy for me so might be the same for you
[11:23] <milaks> binary2k2: I dont remember exactly it was something like 'kde-core' or only 'kde', it was from ubuntu kde installation guide.
[11:24] <binary2k2> milaks: i think i saw the bug before, so look on the bug reports
[11:24] <binary2k2> milaks: i don't use screensavers, only when I lock the seddion, then it's set to be blank
[11:24] <binary2k2> *session
[11:24] <milaks> If you mean on address on title of this channel, I've already did and havent foung anything about screensaver.
[11:25] <binary2k2> i mean the bugs site on launchpad
[11:25] <binary2k2> !bugs | milaks
[11:25] <ubotu> milaks: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:25] <binary2k2> the 1st link
[11:26] <milaks> !bugs] 
[11:26] <milaks> !bugs
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bugs]  - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:26] <seven11> how do i mount with ntfs-3g
[11:27] <binary2k2> !ntfs | seven11
[11:27] <ubotu> seven11: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:27] <milaks> Really strange. Ah almost to forgot, I've also swithced off power saving before it started to bahave like it is now.
[11:28] <binary2k2> !ntfs-3g | seven11
[11:28] <ubotu> seven11: ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[11:28] <Jucato> milaks:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdeartwork/+bug/70991 and http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137070 and
[11:28] <binary2k2> I thaught i saw it before
[11:29] <seven11> i did that before with sudo mount ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 media/hda1 or so... it did work but i forgot
[11:31] <milaks> Jucato: thanks. I think I'll go and reenable power saving againt and set it to 2 hours :)
[11:34] <Pie-rate> well, i've spent 6 hours fucking with linux now and it isn't even installed yet. this is precisely why i haven't switched to linux.
[11:34] <Pie-rate> i'm done. bye.
[11:34] <Jucato> ...
[11:35] <cpk1> wierd took me about 30 minutes when i installed...
[11:35] <Lynoure> well, cds do have a hole in the middle..
[11:35] <Lynoure> But that's not the way to install Linux :)
[11:36] <cpk1> hehe
[11:36] <binary2k2> his hard disk is corrupted or something, buffer overflows everywhere
[11:36] <milaks> One more question. I've manually compiled and installed SVN version of Kdevelop 3.4, because version from official repositry had some bug, but now adept-notifier notifies me that previous package is newer than the one I have and I cannot get rid of it. How can I make adept-notifier to not notify me of upgrades for certain packages?
[11:38] <cpk1> hold the package
[11:38] <binary2k2> and corress it :P
[11:38] <cpk1> and snuggles with it
[11:38] <binary2k2> get marred and have lots of little libs
[11:38] <cpk1> and you will never have problems with it again
[11:39] <milaks> ooooh... :)
[11:39] <Alndr_>  
[11:39] <Kabal> can someone explain the following error?
[11:39] <Kabal> http://www.euronet.nl/users/kabal/00/Kubuntu%206.10%20Error.JPG
[11:39] <Alndr_>      squid   (25 110  )?
[11:40] <binary2k2> !ru | Alndr_
[11:40] <ubotu> Alndr_:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:40] <milaks> Is there any way for adept-notifier (without meariage proposals) ?
[11:40] <Alndr_> translit?
[11:40] <cpk1> like i said, hold and i think there is something stronger than that too
[11:41] <cpk1> nevermindkeep is the weak one and hold is the strong one
[11:42] <cpk1> there is also forbidversion
[11:42] <cpk1> but what i think you want milaks is hold
[11:43] <milaks> cpk1: I don't understand you, unless youre jocking. When I open adept-notifier list, in package menu there isnt "*hol*" option?
[11:43] <binary2k2> or uninstall the package and install with make install
[11:43] <cpk1> milaks: you need to do it via command line
[11:43] <cpk1> aptitude hold packagename
[11:43] <binary2k2> cpk1: will that work on adept?
[11:44] <milaks> Let me try it... but before that, how can I reeanble upgrades for that package?
[11:44] <binary2k2> milaks: aptitude unhold package
[11:44] <milaks> Ok, thanks, I'll try that...
[11:46] <milaks> Hm, the adept-notifier icon is still on panel.
[11:46] <binary2k2> milaks: do you still have the source compiled?
[11:46] <milaks> yes I do
[11:47] <binary2k2> milaks: why not uninstall the package with adept, then just "sudo make install" in the source and adept won't know it's installed or updateable
[11:48] <milaks> eh, I've installed it using checkinstall... what you propose is somewhat "dirty" way  :)
[11:49] <cpk1> after holding it do aptitude update and see if it goes away
[11:49] <binary2k2> try that then :P
[11:49] <Jucato> milaks: did you remove the old KDevelop before you installed the checkinstalled version?
[11:50] <cpk1> if that doesnt make it go away then there is always trying to pin it i guess
[11:50] <milaks> cpk1: I did that and even restarter the panel but the icon is still there.
[11:51] <Jucato> milaks: try to sudo apt-get update
[11:51] <milaks> Jucato: Yes, I've removed the old kdevelop package and installed with checkinstall, the new one.
[11:51] <cpk1> well i think you might be able to pin it but i never really looked into pinning packages that much
[11:51] <milaks> Jucato: No. It's still there.
[11:52] <Jucato> :(
[11:56] <milaks> Nothing, I'll dirty old verified `make install` way.
[11:57] <cpk1> look into "pinning"
[11:58] <Jucato> noooooh :)
[11:59] <milaks> Uh, I've tried to do "upgrade" anyway, to se just waht happens, but it broke, icon disappeard, and now in adept_manager I see that kdevelop package is marked as "BROKEN (installed) BROKEN (no change)" with red color.
[12:01] <milaks> Now, there is only "request install" option, not "request uninstall".
[12:01] <milaks> How can I focefully remove it?
[12:02] <Jucato> try sudo apt-get -f install?
[12:02] <milaks> here...
[12:03] <milaks> Yes it worked.
[12:03] <bxnp> hi i was wondering is it possible to boot from an usb stick, while the bios is not supporting that
[12:03] <milaks> It returned the things like they were.
[12:04] <bxnp> is there a way maybe via a floppy
[12:04] <milaks> Ands now I'll brutaly uninstall it and install the new version with make install ;)
[12:04] <milaks> Thanks for your help and effort guys.
[12:04] <binary2k2> bxnp: look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB
[12:05] <bxnp> thanks binary2k2 let me check
[12:28] <benjaminkip> please anyone could help me how to use gtalk in kubuntu
[12:30] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: kopete supports google talk, it uses the jabber protocal
[12:30] <benjaminkip> yeah! thanks
[12:30] <benjaminkip> but I wonder if I have kopete
[12:30] <benjaminkip> yeah I have it
[12:30] <binary2k2> its installed by default, under internet
[12:30] <benjaminkip> yeah that true
[12:31] <drarem> here i sit broken-hearted, i came to dump but only g-parted
[12:31] <benjaminkip> but only icq, msn, yahoo, and other
[12:31] <benjaminkip> dear binary2k2 which one shall i click for gtalk on kopete
[12:31] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: gtalk uses jabber
[12:32] <drarem> i'm trying to include a php file into html, when i pull up the html file i don't see the php stuff
[12:32] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support will help
[12:32] <drarem> <?php include ('test.php'); ?>
[12:32] <drarem> it's right after the body tag
[12:34] <benjaminkip> oic... let me try
[12:35] <drarem> nm, think i need a htaccess file
[12:36] <benjaminkip> thank you binary2k2
[12:36] <benjaminkip> have  a good day
[12:36] <binary2k2> your welcome benjaminkip
[12:38] <Bubba_Gump> Is there a way to download youtube videos, and then convert them to AVI's?
[12:38] <Bubba_Gump> There's some brilliant Aldous Huxley videos that I'd like to add to my collection
[12:40] <binary2k2> Bubba_Gump: try searching in firefox extentions: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/extensions/
[12:44] <benjaminkip> oh, Binary2k2 r u still there
[12:44] <binary2k2> yeah
[12:44] <benjaminkip> oh thanks
[12:44] <benjaminkip> can we also use skype?
[12:46] <binary2k2> you can install the package from a plf archive
[12:46] <binary2k2> or if ubuntu bot knows?
[12:46] <binary2k2> !skype
[12:46] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:46] <binary2k2> ahh
[12:46] <benjaminkip> plf archive what is that
[12:46] <binary2k2> see that 1st link
[12:47] <binary2k2> !plf | benjaminkip
[12:47] <ubotu> benjaminkip: PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[12:49] <benjaminkip> thanks but I am not sure how to install..
[12:49] <benjaminkip> i hope you don mind teaching me please binary2k2
[12:50] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: if you look at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype#head-693284b80e50a26ec5779f4c5fa08519e0796b1d
[12:50] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: it shows you how to install
[12:51] <benjaminkip> I am actually just beginning to use this Kubuntu and I am very interested in this so
[12:51] <benjaminkip> trying to learn much
[12:51] <rag> please anyone use kppp? it say me "modem is busy" always on a laptop
[12:51] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: add the source to your sources.list and install it with Adept/Synaptic or from the command line
[12:52] <rag> good morning! with wvdial is ok, modem works :)
[12:56] <Cuddles_Laptop> morning all.
[12:56] <Cuddles_Laptop> i'm still having one little problem.
[12:57] <binary2k2> Cuddles_Laptop: and what's the problam?
[12:58] <Cuddles_Laptop> running edgy on a dell latitude laptop, with a gigabit wireless card [r818x driver] , and wireless will -not- auto-start.
[12:58] <binary2k2> ahh, i know nothing about wireless, sorry
[12:58] <Cuddles_Laptop> i have to run kwireless, and then do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart to get an ip assignment.
[12:58] <larson9999> in edgy should i be booting to -common instead of -686?
[12:59] <binary2k2> you mean generic, and I don't know
[12:59] <crimsun> that's up to you.
[12:59] <larson9999> errr, yeah.
[12:59] <crimsun> I use -generic currently
[12:59] <binary2k2> make sure you have linux-restricted-modules and try asking in #ubuntu
[12:59] <larson9999> crimsun: i don't see a -686.
[12:59] <crimsun> if you don't notice anything odd, you can stick with -386
[01:00] <crimsun> larson9999: because -generic subsumes it.
[01:00] <crimsun> -386 is 486-tuned; -generic is 586-tuned
[01:00] <crimsun> -generic also has SMP support
[01:00] <lupul> hello there
[01:00] <binary2k2> generic is good most
[01:00] <larson9999> crimsun: oh wondered because -generic won't boot for some reason.  just hangs
[01:00] <binary2k2> works well on my intel4
[01:00] <lupul> can anyone tell me pls how to install a new splash screen
[01:01] <lupul> on edgy
[01:01] <binary2k2> lupul: the KDE splash screen, or the boot-up splah?
[01:02] <lupul> kde
[01:02] <lupul> wait. one of them i resolverd in the kcontrol menu
[01:03] <binary2k2> lupul:  K-Menu -> Syetem Settings -> Splash -> Add
[01:03] <lupul> ok
[01:03] <lupul> and the other one? the boot one
[01:03] <binary2k2> !usplah | lupul
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usplah - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <lupul> k
[01:04] <binary2k2> lupul: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto see this
[01:04] <lupul> well...  i'll manage someway
[01:04] <lupul> i'm new on linux so it's hard
[01:04] <binary2k2> that link will help
[01:04] <lupul> k. thanks
[01:04] <binary2k2> !usplash
[01:04] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[01:06] <benjaminkip> what is sudo?? Please
[01:06] <binary2k2> !sudo | benjaminkip
[01:06] <ubotu> benjaminkip: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:10] <Lothar> ok i have run dhclient to get my self an ip. i have to manualy edit /etc/resolv.conf to put in my DNS servers as they are not automaticly given out by my router. Is there some way to turn dhclient off or make it so that it dont overwrite the Dns servers
[01:14] <rag> someone use kppp ?
[01:14] <BluesKaj> Howdy all !:)
[01:15] <rag> always on several computers kppp say me "modem is busy"
[01:15] <rag> always on several computers kppp say me "modem is busy" , but wvdial its work and i can browse
[01:15] <rag> please!
[01:15] <binary2k2> Lothar: you need to edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf; look at "man dhclient.conf"
[01:15] <ArmedGeek> rag: are you sure you have the right device selected in kppp
[01:16] <rag> ArmedGeek: yeah
[01:17] <rag> ArmedGeek: with wvdial works withou problems
[01:17] <ArmedGeek> dunno.  i don't use either.
[01:18] <rag> ArmedGeek: is necessary other commands or options in kppp?
[01:18] <deathplanter> hiya guys
[01:18] <deathplanter> im missing first-run assistant in kubuntu's kde
[01:18] <deathplanter> where can i find it?
[01:18] <rag> ArmedGeek: i do only user pwd, choose modem and pulse connect
[01:19] <ArmedGeek> rag: if you're havine modem busy problems, 1) check that no other devices are using the modem, 2) check that kppp is attempting to use the correct device
[01:19] <ArmedGeek> rag: use kppp's query modem button
[01:19] <deathplanter> could anyone tell me what app is responsible for kde's first run assistant?
[01:20] <Lothar> binary2k2: thanks man all solved now
[01:20] <rag> ArmedGeek: this button say me
[01:20] <rag> ArmedGeek: busy :(
[01:20] <binary2k2> Lothar: great :D
[01:20] <rag> ArmedGeek: i tested it all morning
[01:20] <ArmedGeek> try the other devices
[01:22] <rag> ArmedGeek: i test it on 4 computers
[01:23] <rag> ArmedGeek: kppp have a problems on modem is busy
[01:23] <ArmedGeek> dunno then.  i don't use it.
[01:23] <rag> ArmedGeek: do you know other ppp gui?
[01:24] <rag> ArmedGeek: i need it for a friend on village
[01:24] <ArmedGeek> no.  i don't use a ppp gui
[01:25] <BluesKaj> pop3 rag?
[01:25] <ArmedGeek> ppp, not pop3
[01:26] <BluesKaj> what's ppp?
[01:26] <ArmedGeek> point-to-point protocol.  dialup.
[01:26] <rag> BluesKaj: point to point
[01:26] <Jucato> I was about to say Peer to Peer :P
[01:26] <rag> protocol
[01:26] <BluesKaj> pop then ?
[01:26] <Jucato> it's not only for dial up. there's also PPPoE and PPPoA :)
[01:27] <rag> Jucato: pppoe ethernet, pppoa analogic
[01:27] <Jucato> :)
[01:27] <benjaminkip> deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[01:27] <benjaminkip> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[01:28] <benjaminkip> binary2k2 ru there
[01:28] <benjaminkip> I think Imess up something
[01:29] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: try replaceing that line with "deb http://mrpouit.free.fr/plf-fallback edgy-plf free non-free"
[01:29] <ia1da08> \j redondela
[01:30] <benjaminkip> no i can not even open up the adept
[01:31] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: press alt-F2 , then type "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:31] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: change it in there
[01:31] <rag> ArmedGeek: its a problem because "modem is busy" it appear me quickly , on pulse connect or query modem
[01:32] <ubuntu> how do I mount my hard drives from the livecd?
[01:32] <ArmedGeek> rag: i *still* dunno.
[01:32] <benjaminkip> yeah
[01:32] <ubuntu> i'm trying stuff like sudo mount /dev/hdb
[01:32] <ubuntu> but it's not working
[01:32] <ubuntu> any ideas?
[01:32] <benjaminkip> some thing came up
[01:33] <benjaminkip> sources.list-kate
[01:33] <benjaminkip> what is that
[01:33] <BluesKaj> BRB , gonna reset the router
[01:33] <guiden> I need some help with a driver I've installed. I have downloaded this driver http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux64/linux64-radeon.html and it's in rpm
[01:33] <guiden> I've downloaded*
[01:33] <binary2k2> kate is a text editor, you can remove the line "deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free"
[01:33] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: ^^
[01:34] <rag> ArmedGeek: np, thanks!
[01:34] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: and replace it with "deb http://mrpouit.free.fr/plf-fallback edgy-plf free non-free"
[01:34] <guiden> how do I convert it to deb?
[01:34] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: then save it
[01:34] <binary2k2> !alien | guiden
[01:34] <ubotu> guiden: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[01:35] <guiden> damn you ubotu
[01:35] <guiden> :)
[01:35] <binary2k2> ubuntu: what error do you get?
[01:35] <benjaminkip> binary2k2 I jsut saved it already
[01:35] <milaks> Hello again. I've saved profile in Konqueror so it always shows "hidden" files (all directories and files in / direcory), but when I need to open, shose or save something in some other KDE application (like Kdevelop) I always have to right-click and select "Show hidden files". Is there any way to make them all show hidden contentn (all content in /) by default, wihtout the need to first right-click and then select it?
[01:36] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: open up adept, fetch the package list (refresh button) and search for skype
[01:36] <benjaminkip> i can not open adept
[01:36] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: what error do you get?
[01:37] <benjaminkip> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[01:37] <binary2k2> !hidden | milaks
[01:37] <benjaminkip> I am getting this error
[01:37] <ubotu> milaks: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[01:37] <ubuntu> hey, does anybody know how to mount hadr drives w/ a kubuntu live cd?
[01:37] <binary2k2> ubuntu: what error do you get?
[01:37] <Malician> my problem is that there's nothing listed in the fstab
[01:37] <Malician> I try sudo mount /dev/hda1 and it says it doesn't exist in the fstab
[01:38] <binary2k2> ubuntu: you need to put a mount point after, like sudo mount /dev/hda /media/hda
[01:38] <binary2k2> ubuntu: you need to create the mount point first
[01:39] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: open Konsole, K-menu -> System -> Konsole
[01:39] <Malician> okay, done
[01:39] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: type this in:
[01:39] <nilesh> hello
[01:39] <Malician> i'm trying to figure out what my sata drive is listed as
[01:39] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: sudo apt-get update
[01:39] <nilesh> hi
[01:39] <ArmedGeek> Malician: probably sda
[01:39] <Malician> w00t, done
[01:40] <binary2k2> Malician: try sudo fdisl -l
[01:40] <Malician> sda2, actually! at least i know my data's safe
[01:40] <Malician> now if i could only figure out how to get past the kubuntu install bug
[01:40] <Malician> i'd be just fine
[01:40] <binary2k2> Malician:  you need to put a mount point after, like sudo mount /dev/hda /media/hda , after creating the directory
[01:40] <Malician> yeah, got that working
[01:41] <Malician> i'm so happy to see all my data still alive
[01:41] <binary2k2> Malician: if the live CD installer won't work for you, try the alternate cd
[01:41] <rag> ArmedGeek: i installed knet and same error, but with other words! :) unable to create modem lock file.
[01:41] <ArmedGeek> Malician: well even if it wasn't i'm *sure* you have backups ... right ?
[01:41] <rag> ArmedGeek: google...
[01:41] <Malician> >>
[01:42] <binary2k2> !alternate | Malician
[01:42] <ubotu> Malician: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[01:42] <benjaminkip> binary2k2 i got back my adept manager
[01:42] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: you should find skype in there now
[01:42] <ArmedGeek> rag: er, i guess if the user doesn't have perms to create a lockfile then it might report "busy"
[01:42] <benjaminkip> now I am little scare to try another.. but I am ready to try again
[01:43] <rag> ArmedGeek: is possible yeah, i looking just now
[01:43] <ArmedGeek> rag: there is a dialup/ppp/modem group that your user should be added to
[01:43] <ArmedGeek> can't think of the name of the group
[01:43] <ArmedGeek> rag: but if you check /etc/group it should jump out at you
[01:44] <binary2k2> benjaminkip: migrating to kubuntu (or linux in general), can be a culture shock, but you'll get used to it and wounder how you got along without it :p
[01:44] <binary2k2> ArmedGeek: i think it's called "dialup"
[01:44] <Malician> bash: cd: Documents/: Permission denied
[01:44] <Malician> how do I get past this?
[01:44] <ArmedGeek> rag: check for a "dialup" group
[01:44] <ArmedGeek> binary2k2: i think that's it
[01:45] <Malician> as I can't log into root on ubuntu? when I use "sudo cd Documents"
[01:45] <Malician> it says it can't find the command
[01:45] <benjaminkip> yeah I guess so.. everything is different...
[01:45] <ArmedGeek> benjaminkip: yeah, windows got everything wrong ;)
[01:46] <binary2k2> Malician: 1st un-mount the drive, (sudo umount /dev/sda2), then remount with "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /where/you/mount/it -o uid=ubuntu"
[01:46] <binary2k2> Malician: or just "sudo su - "
[01:47] <rag> ArmedGeek: not exist dialup, modem or ppp, which is?
[01:47] <Malician> Ah, Thanks!
[01:48] <binary2k2> rag, ArmedGeek: group is dialout
[01:48] <guiden> how do I remove my old ati grapic drivers completely, I want to install a new driver from ati
[01:49] <binary2k2> guiden: how did you install it?
[01:49] <rag> binary2k2: sure?
[01:49] <guiden> I followed the guide in ubuntu w8
[01:49] <binary2k2> rag: it's the only group with "dial" in it
[01:50] <rag> binary2k2: uhm but it have my user and cupsys
[01:50] <guiden> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:50] <guiden> I followed that one
[01:51] <binary2k2> guiden: which version? edgy, dapper etc?
[01:51] <guiden> edy
[01:51] <guiden> g
[01:53] <binary2k2> guiden: if you installed ir with "apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" then it should auto update
[01:53] <ArmedGeek> rag: dialout ?
[01:54] <rag> ArmedGeek: i dont know i going out now, thx for all
[01:54] <ArmedGeek> k
[01:55] <guiden> But I found this one http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux64/linux64-radeon.html, it's specifik to my amd64 and to my ati radeon  9800
[01:55] <guiden> and their guide says I should remove my old driver
[01:56] <binary2k2> guiden: then just "sudo apt-get --purge remove xorg-driver-fglrx"
[01:56] <guiden> ok
[02:06] <BluesKaj> anyone use graphics utilities to remove "redeyes" from photos, and if so, which one works best ?
[02:10] <icheyne> BluesKaj, picasa works fine
[02:11] <icheyne> BluesKaj, gimp is OK, but it is not as easy as it should be
[02:13] <BluesKaj> icheyne, yeah i need some thing simple ...gimp is too much like photoshop... more than I need and too difficult to understand
[02:13] <icheyne> well Picasa is nice - but slow on old machines
[02:14] <icheyne> I have not found a simple Linux photo editor yet
[02:14] <icheyne> :(
[02:14] <icheyne> native Linux that is
[02:14] <alexicon> krita is ok
[02:14] <BluesKaj> <---machine AMD64 , 2Ghz , 1G Ram...should be fine
[02:14] <icheyne> I thought krita was a paint program?
[02:14] <icheyne> BluesKaj, yes you'll be fine
[02:15] <icheyne> looks like I was wrong about Krita - probably worth a try
[02:16] <alexicon> its a bit different to use.. but its got all the basic features
[02:16] <alexicon> 13% mem tho.. dunno if youre saving much compared to using gimp
[02:17] <icheyne> it's usability that's the problem with the gimp
[02:18] <icheyne> my favourite image editor is photofiltre, but it's windows - I have heard it runs nicely on Wine
[02:18] <icheyne> simple, quick and easy
[02:19] <alexicon> yeah this krita is kinda like old photoshop 6 or something
[02:19] <alexicon> not all the right click options of gimp
[02:19] <alexicon> everything is in the menu bar
[03:00] <VSpike> Does anyone else find that switching users in Kubuntu Edgy is kind of unreliable?
[03:00] <XVampireX> No
[03:01] <XVampireX> It's rather nice and to the point
[03:04] <binary2k2> it's being worked on for KDE4, to make it better
[03:06] <fragrag> Is there anyway of making each desktop having it's own bar?
[03:07] <binary2k2> fragrag: what do you mean?
[03:08] <fragrag> Underneath the main screen, there is a bar with all open program.
[03:08] <BluesKaj> panel
[03:09] <fragrag> Anyway of giving each desktop it's own panel?
[03:10] <binary2k2> fragrag: you mean show only the windows open on that desktop?
[03:10] <fragrag> yes
[03:10] <binary2k2> fragrag: right click the panel, click on taskbar, and uncheck "Show windows from all desktops"
[03:10] <fragrag> Ahh, yes, thank you very much
[03:11] <binary2k2> no problem :D
[03:12] <fragrag> Everything is much cleaner now
[03:12] <BluesKaj> is there a way of editing all the repos sources that don't work without having to comment or delete each one seperately? ...seems like some repos ahve gone south on me
[03:13] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: you can use Adept to "disable" them
[03:13] <BluesKaj> such as this Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-backports/Release Unable to find expected entry  multivers/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[03:16] <VSpike> XVampireX: you don't find that sometimes it fails and you end up with a blank screen?
[03:16] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, that's what i'm trying to avoid ..individual repos editing ...looks like i have about 20 or so that are either dupes or don't work anymore
[03:16] <VSpike> XV
[03:17] <VSpike> XVampireX: Must be something peculiar to mine... better look into it.  I find it's worth asking -- sometimes there's no point trying to make something work because it just fundamentally doesn't work very well :)
[03:18] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: I don't think there is an "easy" way to mass disable them
[03:19] <XVampireX> VSpike: You mean switching PEOPLE to Kubuntu Edgy or switching Users in Kubuntu Edgy?
[03:20] <VSpike> I mean switching between users - i.e. starting new sessions, or switching sessions
[03:20] <XVampireX> binary2k2: Yes there is, adept or some text editor and comment them lines
[03:20] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, yeah gonna manually edit them out
[03:20] <BluesKaj> ppl misunderstand so easily
[03:20] <XVampireX> VSpike: I'm running as my main user (Not root), so I don't know about that :P
[03:21] <VSpike> XVampireX: ah.. well, my wife and I both use this box, so it's useful to switch users
[03:21] <binary2k2> XVampireX: that's what he wated to avoid
[03:21] <Jucato> VSpike: K Menu -> Switch User?
[03:21] <VSpike> XVampireX: used to do it under XP all the time, and mostly it worked although if your box was gonna crash, that's when it would do it :)
[03:22] <VSpike> Ju
[03:22] <VSpike> Jucato: yep
[03:22] <Frederick> folks where does the system hides knetworkconf after it is installed?
[03:22] <pelle_> Can somebody help me a little
[03:22] <pelle_> ?
[03:22] <XVampireX> BluesKaj: Don't use the computer then, the computer doesn't know what you want it to do.
[03:22] <Frederick> pelle_: just ask
[03:22] <abattoir> Frederick: i think it goes into kcontrol
[03:22] <abattoir> Frederick: where did you get it from? kde-apps?
[03:23] <XVampireX> Don't ask to ask, just ask ;)
[03:23] <pelle_> I'm dual booting Windows, but I'm sick of it, so I wanna go all Kubuntu, but I can't figure out how to make the partition to fill up the whole hard drive
[03:23] <Frederick> abattoir: I just apt-get it
[03:23] <abattoir> Frederick: 'This is a KDE control center module to configure TCP/IP settings.'
[03:24] <Frederick> abattoir: oki so?
[03:24] <abattoir> Frederick: from 'apt-cache show knetworkconf'...
[03:24] <Frederick> I need it
[03:24] <abattoir> so look in kcontrol
[03:24] <Frederick> not listed should I re-start x or something like that?
[03:24] <Frederick> reboot?
[03:24] <VSpike> pelle_: what size partitions do you have at the moment?
[03:24] <abattoir> Frederick: Alt+F2->kcontro->Internet & Network
[03:24] <abattoir> Frederick: i don't think that's necessary
[03:24] <abattoir> *kcontrol
[03:24] <pelle_> for windows I have 150gb, and for Linux Ive got 50gb
[03:25] <abattoir> Frederick: Alt+F2->kcontrol->Internet & Network
[03:25] <pelle_> but my Windows broke and im sick of it
[03:25] <Frederick> abattoir: not listed
[03:25] <binary2k2> Frederick: use K-Menu -> System Settings
[03:25] <pelle_> and I dont use it anyways
[03:25] <VSpike> pelle_: there's no particular need to change the partitions.  You could just format the windows partition as ext3 and mount it into the filesystem
[03:25] <Frederick> binary2k2: than I can find the kcontrol entry either
[03:26] <pelle_> can I do that from Linux?
[03:26] <pelle_> cause windows is broken
[03:26] <abattoir> Frederick: i think it's 'Network Configuration' or 'Network Settings'
[03:26] <Frederick> oh oki
[03:26] <Frederick> so it is there not as I wantred but it is there
[03:26] <binary2k2> Frederick: kcontrol was replaced with System Settings in kubuntu, but kcontrol is still installed, just the command
[03:26] <abattoir> Frederick: what's it called?
[03:27] <VSpike> pelle_: yeah, you can
[03:28] <VSpike> pelle_: is your windows partition mounted in linux
[03:28] <pelle_> i dont think so
[03:29] <pelle_> how can I tell?
[03:30] <pelle_> and how do I format it?
[03:30] <Frederick> abattoir: knetworkconf?
[03:32] <VSpike> pelle_: you should be able to use Krusader in root mode
[03:32] <VSpike> pelle_: go to Tools->Mountman
[03:33] <pelle_> wheres that?
[03:33] <VSpike> try "sudo krusader &" in a shell
[03:34] <pelle_> doesnt ope
[03:34] <pelle_> n
[03:35] <pelle_> oh, I didnt have it
[03:35] <pelle_> Im installing it
[03:35] <Frederick> abattoir: knetworkconf
[03:44] <pelle_> k i got it
[03:44] <pelle_> so how do I format?
[03:46] <pelle_> VSpike_:  I found MountMan
[03:47] <pelle_> VSpike, although I can't find the hard drive, just the 50 gb partition
[03:48] <abattoir> Frederick: oh, ok, but i was asking for the Entry in kcontrol ;)
[03:51] <pvandewyngaerde> is there a good network layout scheme-maker for linux ?
[03:52] <Frederick> nam?
[03:53] <binary2k2> pvandewyngaerde: kivio can make flowcharts, which is good for making network layouts
[03:54] <pvandewyngaerde> has it network symbols ?? like for routers and stuff ?
[03:55] <binary2k2> dunnow, have only heared others use it for that
[03:59] <ninHer> i need some advice with a curious problem about my graphics
[04:00] <ninHer> in my desktop, or my pics the black colour it is showed badly ...
[04:00] <ninHer> and disrupt the pic or the desktop
[04:01] <ninHer> if i send some pic trough e-mail the receiver doesn't notice this
[04:01] <ninHer> so it must be a problem with my graphics
[04:01] <ninHer> any idea ?
[04:01] <BluesKaj> sounds like a monitor setting adjustment
[04:02] <ninHer> uhm, may be
[04:14] <mefisto__> how do I migrate my current kubuntu install to a new hard drive? will it work if I format/partition the new drive and just copy the files over?
[04:16] <binary2k2> mefisto__: yeah, but you need to change /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst to reflect the change
[04:16] <BluesKaj> ya gotta use a linux equivalent to Norton Ghost
[04:16] <binary2k2> the gparted disk will do the copy
[04:17] <mefisto__> binary2k2: is that all I need to do? just those 2 files?
[04:17] <binary2k2> !gparted | BluesKaj
[04:17] <ubotu> BluesKaj: gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[04:17] <BluesKaj> yes i use GParted all the time ...i thought he was taliking about a new box
[04:18] <binary2k2> mefisto__: yeah, they're the only file that are needed to boot
[04:18] <binary2k2> *files
[04:19] <mefisto__> so I don't need to install grub on the new drive or anything? just copy everything over?
[04:19] <BluesKaj> I used GParted to split the hdd into two 80G partitions ...dual boot with windoze
[04:19] <binary2k2> the k,ubuntu live cd has gparted too iirc
[04:20] <binary2k2> well, the kubuntu one has qtparted
[04:20] <BluesKaj> QParted ... not as useful
[04:21] <binary2k2> the kubuntu one is updated from the stock one, much better than it was
[04:21] <mefisto__> so no need to reinstall grub?
[04:22] <binary2k2> mefisto__: depends on what you're doing with the original hard disk
[04:22] <mefisto__> I want to replace the original with a new, larger one
[04:25] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, can't a mirror be made of the old drive and transferrred to the new one ?
[04:26] <mefisto__> currently my first hd is windows, kubuntu is on a separate hd, that I want to replace. Do I need to reinstall grub so the windows disk accesses the new kubuntu disk properly to boot?
[04:28] <BluesKaj> raid stripe ?
[04:28] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: sorry, call center was tryin to sell me a phone :P
[04:29] <BluesKaj> hehe, hungup i hope
[04:29] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: yeah :D
[04:30] <binary2k2> mefisto__: copy the drive, and reinstall grub, but make sure to change fstab if you're keeping the other harddrive in the same posittion
[04:30] <binary2k2> as IDE primary master
[04:31] <BluesKaj> i got a spam phone call from scholar's choice yesterday...don't even have enuff respect for potential customers to use a real person to pitch their marketing campaign
[04:31] <mefisto__> ok, thanks binary2k2
[04:33] <BluesKaj> if you have trouble with grub , there's a MBR called GAG that rescued my windows MBR after reformatting the parition over Suse
[04:34] <BluesKaj> XP and w2k , other windows can be rescue by FDSK/MBR
[04:35] <BluesKaj> XP doesn't have a dos option ... typical MS oversight
[04:36] <binary2k2> you have to do it from the XP recure disk
[04:37] <BluesKaj> yeah , my rescue disk didn't work cuz the rescue partiton on the HDD was erased
[04:37] <BluesKaj> all the rescue disk does is boot into the rescue partition
[04:37] <binary2k2> mine was on the diak too, now kubuntu is in its place :D
[04:39] <BluesKaj> I still have windows on my machine , cuz there are some things I'm not secure doing with edgy. Mostly video conversionand multimedia stuff
[04:39] <ckd> re
[04:40] <binary2k2> i keep a spair xp box, but mostly use vmware
[04:40] <binary2k2> if at all
[04:42] <guiden> I need to keep track of the temperature on my computer, is there a nice temp program for kde?
[04:44] <binary2k2> ksensors ?
[04:44] <binary2k2> guiden: or ktemperature
[04:45] <berkes> once you have clicked the "never for this site" button, when prompted to "store passwords" in konq,
[04:45] <berkes> is there a way to re-set that?
[04:45] <guiden> ok thanks
[04:45] <guiden> what's the normal temp for a computer?
[04:46] <binary2k2> guiden: depends totaly on your hardware
[04:46] <binary2k2> guiden: google is your friend here
[04:47] <kai_> when ever I try to build my amarok collection it skips thru my mp3's what can I do?
[04:48] <guiden> ok
[04:48] <Jucato> kai_: do you have "libxine-extracodecs" installed?
[04:49] <kai_> when I looked in my package managers I couldn't find it
[04:49] <kai_> where can I get it?
[04:49] <_marcio> ola
[04:49] <Jucato> kai_: you need to enable multiverse first
[04:49] <Jucato> !multiverse | kai_
[04:49] <ubotu> kai_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:50] <_marcio> portuguese here?
[04:50] <Jucato> !pt
[04:50] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:50] <_marcio> ok
[04:50] <_marcio> obrigado
[04:50] <kai_> wow, I didn't know I had to all that
[04:50] <_marcio> is join?
[04:50] <Jucato> kai_: not all that. just the section about adding Multiverse
[04:50] <kai_> Thanx
[04:50] <binary2k2> _marcio: type /join #ubutnu-pr
[04:50] <kai_> oh, theres more
[04:51] <_marcio> ok thank you
[04:51] <Hawkwind> Or /join #Ubuntu-PT instead of PR
[04:51] <_marcio> is my first day here
[04:51] <kai_> what else do I need to do
[04:51] <binary2k2> damn typos
[04:51] <_marcio> and using ubunto
[04:51] <_marcio> ops
[04:51] <Jucato> or just click on the #ubuntu-pt word
[04:51] <_marcio> ubuntu
[04:51] <Jucato> kai_: after you enabled it, you can search for libxine-extracodecs in Adept
[04:51] <binary2k2> _marcio: click on the blue channel name
[04:52] <kai_> ok
[04:52] <_marcio> ok np
[04:53] <kai_> right this second, im tryin to upgrade to 6.10 from 6.06
[04:53] <kai_> I'd figure that would help
[04:54] <Jucato> !upgrade | kai_
[04:54] <ubotu> kai_: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:54] <kai_> I ran the commands for that
[04:54] <binary2k2> kai_: you mean help with mp3 support?
[04:54] <kai_> Im just waiting for the downloads and stuff
[04:54] <kai_> that and I would like to have the latest version
[04:55] <binary2k2> kai_: it's the same process on edgy for installing mp3 support
[04:55] <kai_> good....
[04:55] <binary2k2> kai_: unless you upgrade with it already installed
[04:55] <_marcio> iam search for this channel
[04:55] <_marcio> fly for fun
[04:55] <_marcio> is a game
[04:56] <BluesKaj> kai_, try www.imbrandon.com for the latest amarok repository
[05:00] <houssem> can anyone help me to have the 3D acceleration ?? i have an ATI X700 graphic card
[05:01] <binary2k2> !xgl | houssem
[05:01] <ubotu> houssem: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:01] <binary2k2> follow that guide
[05:02] <trappist> !ati | houssem
[05:02] <ubotu> houssem: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:03] <palvarez> epale soy nueva en linux necesito ayuda, tengo un problema con k3b
[05:03] <Hawkwind> Hah, don't think he wants XGL quite yet :)
[05:03] <palvarez> no me quiere copiar
[05:03] <Hawkwind> palvarez: English please
[05:03] <trappist> !es | palvarez
[05:03] <ubotu> palvarez: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:04] <palvarez> thank.!
[05:16] <blind_> can i get some help in installing beryl ??? this page is down http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php
[05:17] <blind_> help
[05:17] <blind_> :)
[05:19] <binary2k2> blind_: look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl
[05:20] <blind_> 10x
[05:22] <blind_> how do i install i915 driver on edgy ???
[05:24] <binary2k2> blind_: it's already installed
[05:27] <blind_> 19x
[05:28] <blind_> what's gksudo ??
[05:28] <Jucato> !gksudo | blind_
[05:28] <ubotu> blind_: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[05:28] <Jucato> kdesu | blind_
[05:28] <Jucato> !kdesu
[05:28] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:29] <blind_> 10x
[05:30] <aqej> #u
[05:34] <blind_> what's better beryl or compiz ????
[05:35] <binary2k2> don't really know, but berly is easier to install on kubuntu
[05:35] <fdoving> !beryl | blind_
[05:35] <ubotu> blind_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:35] <binary2k2> *beryl
[05:35] <blind_> 10x
[05:42] <babob4722> there is no way to play mp3's is there?
[05:43] <binary2k2> !mp3 | babob4722
[05:43] <ubotu> babob4722: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:43] <binary2k2> babob4722: answer: yes, there is
[05:44] <Jucato> in Edgy, it's even easier. just try to play an MP3 in Amarok and a script will run which will let you easily install the needed codec
[05:45] <Gh0st75> yeah, noticed that when i went from dapper to edgy, was pretty sweet
[05:45] <Jucato> they have plans to make such things easier in Feisty, afaik
[05:46] <Jucato> they started with MP3's and Flash in Edgy
[05:50] <BluesKaj> having trouble with quicktime video in FF and konq .... any ideas?
[05:53] <curb> BluesKaj: cant u use mplayer plugin for ff?
[05:53] <PupenoR> Any ideas why Aptitude wants to remove kdelibs when I have kubuntu-desktop installed and it is not being removed.
[06:00] <aib> The various Qt packages don't include the .la library files, but the SoQt package does. Does anyone have any information about this? It seems to be problematic.
[06:03] <Helge> I would like to remove the router and then I would be without a firewall. What are the consequences?
[06:04] <blind_> can i get some repositories for beryl ... the ones on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl are down
[06:05] <Jucato> !beryl | blind_
[06:05] <ubotu> blind_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:06] <binary2k2> blind_: i use "deb http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org edgy beryl-svn"
[06:06] <blind_> can i get some repositories for beryl ... the ones on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl are down
[06:06] <blind_> plz
[06:06] <blind_> :)
[06:07] <RobNyc[] > is there anyway i can have my kde like this http://picasaweb.google.com/jmarrero
[06:07] <Jucato> blind_: people in #ubuntu-xgl might know better
[06:13] <notech> RobNyc[] : you mean the color scheme?
[06:13] <RobNyc[] > no
[06:13] <RobNyc[] > everything
[06:19] <PupenoR> Any ideas why Aptitude wants to remove kdelibs when I have kubuntu-desktop installed and it is not being removed.
[06:20] <BluesKaj> orphaned libs ?
[06:21] <notech> RobNyc[] : not sure of the theme of the red 'jewel' in the task bar suggests beryl
[06:21] <notech> but the red...
[06:22] <RobNyc[] > yea but the kde menu and all that stuff without beryl
[06:23] <PupenoR> BluesKaj: is that to me ?
[06:24] <notech> RobNyc[] : oh, sorry. i'm not very familiar with kde
[06:25] <PupenoR> even the package kde is being uninstalled.
[06:25] <notech> RobNyc[] : might check kde-look.org to see if it's a certain theme or style
[06:26] <notech> Pupeno: what were you doing in aptitude?
[06:27] <PupenoR> notech: cleaning up, I marked all packages as auto and then marked kubuntu-desktop as non-auto, it should have marked all dependencies as needed, but it didn't.
[06:27] <notech> oh
[06:28] <LordOllie> could some one remind me of the command that opened a dialog to install a theme
[06:28] <LordOllie> ?
[06:28] <sorin> hello everybody
[06:29] <sorin> bah oameni care stiti romina?
[06:30] <PupenoR> oh, kubuntu-desktop doesn't depend on kde.
[06:30] <livingdaylight> apokryphos: ping
[06:30] <Jucato> LordOllie: a .kth theme?
[06:30] <sorin> nu mai este vorba de limba romina
[06:30] <LordOllie> jucato: yeah, you told me last night
[06:30] <Jucato> LordOllie: Alt+F2, kcontrol?
[06:30] <Jucato> sorin: English please
[06:31] <LordOllie> jucato, thanks I made a note of that now :)
[06:32] <LordOllie> that last theme I got was horrible
[06:32] <sorin> who know romanian language?
[06:34] <LordOllie> anyone know if there is a kth file for the mac osx theme?
[06:35] <Jucato> might want to check out something called Baghira
[06:35] <sorin> for romanian?
[06:36] <livingdaylight> Can someone explain to me why i have xine Movie player twice in my Menu?? and moreover how i can delete one of the entries
[06:37] <gnomefreak> its kwin-baghira :)
[06:38] <livingdaylight> also i'm looking for an application which facilitates easy printing. One that allows selection of a number of default sizes There is such an application called GnomePhotoPrinter i wonder if there is a KDE equivalent
[06:46] <cossidhon> Anyone knows where to find a package of kaffeine 0.8.3 for edgy?
[06:46] <LordOllie> isn't installed auotmatically?
[06:47] <Jucato> no. Edgy only has 0.8.2
[06:47] <cossidhon> Eh, no edgy has 0.8.2 and I apt-get update daily
[06:50] <livingdaylight> Can someone explain to me why i have xine Movie player twice in my Menu?? and moreover how i can delete one of the entries
[06:50] <livingdaylight> also i'm looking for an application which facilitates easy printing. One that allows selection of a number of default sizes There is such an application called GnomePhotoPrinter i wonder if there is a KDE equivalent
[06:50] <PupenoR> cossidhon: maybe you can get it from edgy+1 according to http://pupeno.com/blog-en/unstable-packages-on-ubuntu/
[06:50] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: if you ask one question at a time you might have more luck.
[06:51] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: right-click on the K lets you edit the menu.
[06:54] <livingdaylight> thx, PupenoR, why did it give me two entries for Xine MOvie player? this is bizzare. Can i trust Edgy? I am feeling very very nervous when weird things like this happen
[06:55] <cossidhon> PupenoR: Thanks for that link, Do I understand that I get the source from Feisty to build on edgy? Why then nog download the source from kaffeine site?
[06:55] <livingdaylight> PupenoR: why do you think i would have more luck if i asked only one question? maybe someone knows the answer to one but not the other...
[06:56] <livingdaylight> Anyone using Feisty yet?
[06:56] <RobNyc> how can i restart kicker?
[06:56] <livingdaylight> even if it is  not the latest
[06:56] <livingdaylight> i'm looking for an application which facilitates easy printing. One that allows selection of a number of default sizes There is such an application called GnomePhotoPrinter i wonder if there is a KDE equivalent
[06:56] <Jucato> RobNyc: Alt+F2, "dcop kicker kicker restart"
[06:57] <livingdaylight> Jucato: hi, how are you?
[06:57] <RobNyc> thanks Jucato
[06:57] <Jucato> livingdaylight: doing fine... a bit... :)
[06:57] <PupenoR> cossidhon: you are not just downloading the sources of kaffeine, you are downloading the sources of the kaffeine package wich has the kaffeine sources and some more to build a package.
[06:58] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: people tend to work on one issue at a time, particularly when doing just voluntary work.
[06:58] <cossidhon> PupenoR: OK, thanks, i'll look into that. Another route would be to request a backport :-)
[06:58] <livingdaylight> PupenoR: what are you on about??
[06:59] <RobNyc> Jucato, now my kde looks like this http://picasaweb.google.com/jmarrero
[06:59] <PupenoR> cossidhon: yes, but for that you'll have to wait. With my solution you'll have the package in half an hour or less. The backport might even be denied (the ones I asked for were denied).
[06:59] <Jucato> good for you
[06:59] <PupenoR> cossidhon: and my solution is pretty safe, if it doesn't work just remove the package.
[07:00] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: I don't have a clue why you have two entries, maybe a re-install or an upgrade of a package not so well packaged or some other bug somewhere else. Right-clicking in the K you can edit the menu, delete it and that's it.
[07:00] <cossidhon> PupenoR: OK, thanks, I will try this :-)
[07:01] <livingdaylight> PupenoR: thx, for the right-click K prompt
[07:01] <zorglu_> RobNyc: which os/kde are you running to get this kmenu ?
[07:01] <PupenoR> you are welcome.
[07:01] <livingdaylight> RobNyc: dude, you are masterful. That looks like SUSE SLED
[07:03] <RobNyc> zorglu_, Kubuntu Edgy
[07:03] <RobNyc> livingdaylight, yes
[07:04] <zorglu_> what is this vlos stuff, i looked at their web site and they dont say
[07:04] <livingdaylight> RobNyc: how did you give it the SLED look?
[07:04] <zorglu_> just that 'vlos is a fantastic way to get the best software' :))))))))
[07:04] <livingdaylight> what is VLOS?
[07:05] <Jucato> another distro
[07:05] <zorglu_> http://vidalinux.com/index.php?set_albumName=album01&id=screenshot_0002&option=com_gallery&Itemid=40&include=view_photo.php
[07:05] <zorglu_> Jucato: ok thanks
[07:05] <RobNyc> livingdaylight, www.distrowatch.com/VLOS on irc #vlos
[07:05] <livingdaylight> Jucato: I thought he said it was kubuntu
[07:05] <RobNyc> livingdaylight, I got that look on my kubuntu now
[07:05] <livingdaylight> RobNyc: i thought you said kubuntu
[07:06] <Jucato> I think he meant his Kubuntu looks like that now
[07:06] <livingdaylight> how many os's has this guy got?
[07:06] <RobNyc> whos this guy ?
[07:07] <RobNyc> that link is what the KDE on VLOS looks like.. and its Default now.. but I got that look on my Kubuntu Edgy because I know the vlos guys
[07:08] <livingdaylight> RobNyc: how did you get teh Sled look done?
[07:08] <RobNyc> some directions is on beryl's site but their site is down
[07:09] <hmg4> Is there some software that i can use with TV-card?
[07:09] <zorglu_> RobNyc: you may tell them that their web site make them look as a 'money scam' scheme :) vlos is a fantastic way to get the best software <- this kind of stuff
[07:10] <livingdaylight> why have i got a folder on my desktop called cdrom0?
[07:10] <livingdaylight> i ejected cdrom1 and yet i'm left with this folder on m y desktop mnow
[07:10] <zorglu_> livingdaylight: because you got a cdrom in your drive ?
[07:10] <RobNyc> zorglu_, its the only good gentoo based distro surviving bilingual too
[07:11] <livingdaylight> zorglu_: no, i took it out
[07:11] <livingdaylight> RobNyc: Sabayon is quite nice too
[07:11] <zorglu_> RobNyc: i didnt comment on the real quality of the distribution, i dont know it, but i comment based on my perception of their web site
[07:12] <RobNyc> livingdaylight, well I've used VLOS since 2004 so its been here for a while
[07:12] <RobNyc> it's gotten quite a few review (Gentoo done right)
[07:12] <RobNyc> and now its just better than ever
[07:13] <zorglu_> RobNyc: cool, they just have to find someone to do the website now :)
[07:13] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me how to rid the blue cdrom0 icon on my desktop
[07:14] <RobNyc> zorglu_, u can do it :)
[07:14] <zorglu_> no :)
[07:19] <RobNyc> zorglu_, http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1ct9.jpg
[07:20] <RobNyc> http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot2iw2.jpg
[07:21] <zorglu_> i think i should try edgy some days :)
[07:21] <zorglu_> at least on livecd :)
[07:22] <RobNyc> lol
[07:22] <RobNyc> os[rob@KubuntuPrescott, Linux 2.6.17-10-generic i686] 
[07:23] <neo_> hello
[07:23] <neo_> ciao
[07:23] <neo_> c' nessuno
[07:23] <neo_> avrei un problema
[07:23] <neo_> i have a problem
[07:24] <neo_> ho fatto l'aggiornamento di kubuntu da 6.06 a 6.10 e ora grub si  aggiornato ma non c' piu windows
[07:24] <Jucato> !it | neo_
[07:24] <ubotu> neo_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:24] <neo_> thanks
[07:32] <Flosoft> hey
[07:32] <Flosoft> I have got a problem
[07:32] <Flosoft> when I try to use Kiax for VoIP it crashes when I call something
[07:32] <Flosoft> my console says: http://rafb.net/paste/results/1141ij72.html
[07:33] <PupenoR> most of the 'voip clients' are so crashy.
[07:33] <zorglu_> Flosoft: this is kiax specific
[07:34] <livingdaylight> S.O.S
[07:34] <Flosoft> 0.8.5
[07:34] <Flosoft> it is the default version of Edgy
[07:34] <zorglu_> ok
[07:35] <livingdaylight> s.o.s
[07:35] <livingdaylight> help
[07:35] <hyper_ch> when does the lyrc script in Amarok crash? This happens quite often for me
[07:35] <livingdaylight> i can't get into my kubuntu i
[07:37] <soulrider> hi everyone
[07:37] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: can you be more specific ?
[07:38] <Bubba_Gump> livingdaylight: remove the cd ;)
[07:38] <livingdaylight> PupenoR: i'm seriously up the creek here
[07:38] <livingdaylight> Bubba_Gump: are you making fun of me?
[07:39] <livingdaylight> PupenoR: seriously, can you help?
[07:39] <livingdaylight> i don't want to have to do another fresh install
	can someone tell me how to rid the blue cdrom0 icon on my desktop (no, just very slow)
[07:39] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: I don't know, if you don't tell us more about the problem.
[07:39] <livingdaylight> Bubba_Gump: just have a chocolate mate
[07:39] <Bubba_Gump> heh :D
[07:40] <livingdaylight> PupenoR: i told you. i changed my screenresolution and now i can't get back into kubuntu.
[07:40] <Flosoft> anyone able to help me with my kiax problem?
[07:41] <PupenoR> Flosoft: it's probably a bug, report it to the kiax devs.
[07:41] <livingdaylight> PupenoR: because resolution didn't change i clicked on administration mode and entered passsword.
[07:41] <Flosoft> any other IAX client?
[07:41] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: so, what is going on now.
[07:41] <Flosoft> with a .deb package for edgy?
[07:41] <livingdaylight> PupenoR: then i rebooted and couldn't get in
[07:42] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: what does your screen show ?
[07:42] <livingdaylight> PupenoR: dude, i'm in a live cd here, I can NOT get into Kubuntu
[07:43] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: if you don't tell me what you screen shows when you 'can't get in' I don't know what is going on (I don't even know what "getting in" means).
[07:44] <PupenoR> Flosoft: unfortunately, I boubt it :(
[07:44] <livingdaylight> PupenoR: i said everything already. I cannot login! I changed 1280 x ???? to 1024x780 but it wasn't saving so i clicked on admin mode and entered password and rebooted
[07:44] <Flosoft> damn :(
[07:45] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: no, you haven't say if you see an error and if so what error. You didn't say if you are seeing the loggin screen or not.... and why the heck would you 'reduce' the resolution ?
[07:46] <livingdaylight> PupenoR: it is my busineess why i would chnage resolutoin. I get to login page, enter password like i said but then it returns me to lgon screen
[07:46] <neo_> hello...can you say what utility make the scan of the system bootable?
[07:46] <neo_> this is made with the installer of linux
[07:46] <livingdaylight> PupenoR no there is no error message it keeps knocking me back to login page
[07:46] <PupenoR> Flosoft: I totally agree with you... I also work in VoIP and it sucks... but it seems there's not a big set of interested people in AIX or SIP clients for Linux at all, let alone specific environments like KDE.
[07:46] <livingdaylight> Can anyone help me here?
[07:46] <PupenoR> Flosoft: I'd love to develop one if I get paid for it. :)
[07:47] <Flosoft> hehe
[07:47] <Flosoft> well I can't help you out with that
[07:47] <livingdaylight> Can someone help me get back into Kubuntu?
[07:47] <Dragen> why can't you get in?
[07:47] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: basically you've chosen a resolution that doesn't work. I don't know how to get it back because evidently X is configured properly, you see KDM. I am not sure how the resolution is set afterwards.
[07:47] <PupenoR> Dragen: he changed the resolution to something that doesn't work on a per-user basis.
[07:47] <Flosoft> I am just looking for a .deb of an IAX2 Client
[07:48] <Flosoft> and kiax crashes :(
[07:48] <Varjat_by> How I can check what Kubuntu version a have installed?
[07:48] <PupenoR> Flosoft: BTW, if you find something that is not in a .deb, checkinstall can help you make a deb easily.
[07:48] <doppelganger_> hey guys, i've got a funky problem. I tried to install seti@home a while back, but during part of the installation it tried to connect to the seti servers, but couldn't. Now even when i try to get rid of it, it tries to reach that same server, and won't ever complete. I can't install any packages now because of it being in the way. Any idea how to get it out of the queue to be installed/uninstalled?
[07:49] <livingdaylight> PupenoR 1024x768 is a resolution that works
[07:49] <Flosoft> hmm yeah
[07:49] <Flosoft> I tried to install idefisk, but it has problems with the sound device
[07:49] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: ok, whatever.
[07:51] <animimotus> hi
[07:51] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: run this: grep -R "1024x768" /where/you/installed/kubuntu/home/
[07:51] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: better: grep -R "1024x768" /where/you/installed/kubuntu/home/
[07:51] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: better: grep -R "1024" /where/you/installed/kubuntu/home/
[07:52] <livingdaylight> puppenoR where i installed kubuntu home?
[07:52] <Flosoft> PupenoR: I just opened iaxcomm, but it crashes too
[07:52] <animimotus> doesn't exist a firefox-gnome-support for kde ? ^^
[07:53] <PupenoR> livingdaylight: yes, you'll have to mount the partition where you installed Kubuntu (/dev/hda1 ? /dev/hda3 ?) somewhere, like /media/kubuntu and then run grep -R "1024" /media/kubuntu/home/, that will show some lines. If you show me that I might be able to tell you how to fix it.
[07:54] <PupenoR> Flosoft: I know your strugle, I went thru it less than a month ago.
[07:54] <Flosoft> PupenoR: Any solution?
[07:55] <PupenoR> Flosoft: unfortunately, I haven't found any, but you might be more lucky.
[07:55] <PupenoR> Flosoft: the sound problem might be due to arts using /dev/dsp
[07:55] <wildchild> how do I untar "file"
[07:56] <wildchild> if i am in the path that contains "file"
[07:56] <PupenoR> wildchild: tar xvf file.tar
[07:56] <Flosoft> yeah
[07:56] <Flosoft> afaik it uses ALSA
[07:56] <Flosoft> (iaxcomm)
[07:56] <PupenoR> Flosoft: then, just kill arts to see if it works.
[07:56] <wildchild> PupenoR what xvf mean
[07:57] <PupenoR> wildchild: if it is tar.gz, then tar xvfz file.tar.gz, if it is tar.bz2, then tar xvfj file.tar.bz2
[07:57] <PupenoR> wildchild: man tar will tell you.
[07:57] <Dragen> wildchild: detailed list of commands can be read by typing  "man tar"
[07:57] <jamonation_> why do some .tar.gz files not tab complete even with the correct xvzf options?
[07:58] <wildchild> k tnx
[08:01] <oliver_> hi
[08:01] <oliver_> has someone compiled dazuko.ko for edgy ?
[08:05] <Varjat_by> How I can get current Kubuntu version number?
[08:06] <rag> please do you know drivers or links for Epson TM-U210D ?
[08:06] <swami> tru xzvf
[08:06] <swami> try xzvf
[08:06] <swami> cause the order counts
[08:06] <cloakable> Varjat_by: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:07] <swami> or try gunzip fisrst
[08:07] <Varjat_by> :) lsb_release -ca
[08:07] <Varjat_by> At now: I have installed version 6.06 .. How I can update it to 6.10?
[08:08] <cloakable> Varjat_by: For the love of God, get the CD and install from that.
[08:09] <cloakable> Varjat_by: Updating to 6.10 seems to be an unholy nightmare.
[08:09] <Varjat_by> :(
[08:11] <oliver_> dazuko configure can not find kernel-source files, what could be the reason ??
[08:11] <LeeJunFan> kernel headers not installed.
[08:12] <LeeJunFan> !headers
[08:12] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[08:12] <cloakable> !kernel
[08:12] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[08:14] <Varjat_by> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - is this manual true for Kubuntu? Or it is Ubuntu only?
[08:15] <LeeJunFan> Varjat_by: basically what's for one is also for the other except for gnome applications.
[08:15] <LeeJunFan> !upgrade
[08:16] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[08:17] <milaks> Hello. Is there any KDE application, that would be like frontend to 'listen'? I would like to see which programm is sending and receiving in real time.
[08:22] <drarem> is ajax linux-browser friendly for development or is it more a MS thing
[08:22] <trappist> drarem: firefox and konqueror handle it just fine in most cases
[08:24] <drarem> i'll give it a go, ty
[08:30] <otaku-san> ok dumb question....how do you change the color of your desktop font...I'm having a brainfart
[08:31] <Helge> I use Ktorrent 2.1 dev and pnp plugin running and no firewall. I have red crosses on DHT, whats up?
[08:31] <Helge> Google didnt please me on this one
[08:31] <trappist> Helge: I don't know what most of that means, but are you going through a NAT router?
[08:32] <Helge> No router, there is a switch that I dont think there is much to do with
[08:32] <Helge> So I say no, no NAT
[08:35] <icheyne> Helge: can you download normal torrents OK?
[08:35] <trappist> Helge: unless you're irc'ing from somewhere else, you are behind a firewall
[08:35] <icheyne> Helge: do you have this problem with Azureus?
[08:36] <Helge> Yeah, it actually works, but would it work better with this dht thing in order?
[08:36] <Helge> I am behind a firewall? Well I doubt that
[08:37] <Helge> Azureus never worked on linux for me
[08:37] <icheyne> Helge: DHT is useful for old torrents with no tracker
[08:37] <Helge> Bugs
[08:37] <icheyne> it's not essential
[08:37] <icheyne> Helge: try utorrent under wine - that will let you test DHT as well
[08:37] <Helge> I got the dev version and it seems to be better than the normal one, I receive more peers now
[08:37] <icheyne> trappist: how do you know Helge is behind a firewall?
[08:38] <trappist> icheyne: port scan
[08:38] <Helge> Is it ok not be behind a firewall?
[08:38] <icheyne> Helge: well that settles it
[08:38] <icheyne> firewalls are generally good, but not for bittorrent - especially if you cannot open ports
[08:38] <icheyne> trappist: did you use nmap?
[08:39] <trappist> icheyne: yes
[08:39] <Helge> I should do nothing with this, that is your conclusion?
[08:39] <icheyne> thanks trappist
[08:39] <icheyne> Helge: try to find out how to connect to your switch
[08:39] <icheyne> maybe put 192.168.2.1 into the address bar of your browser
[08:39] <icheyne> maybe 192.168.1.1
[08:39] <trappist> more likely his isp is blocking this stuff
[08:39] <icheyne> depends
[08:39] <icheyne> trappist: sure
[08:39] <Helge> Ok, I got it today(!) and I was told no setup
[08:39] <Helge> I check it out
[08:40] <icheyne> Helge: good luck
[08:40] <trappist> Helge: switches don't filter traffic.  I really doubt it's your switch
[08:40] <milaks> Hello. Is there any KDE application, that would be like frontend to 'listen'? I would like to see which programm is sending and receiving in real time.
[08:40] <icheyne> Helge: listen to trappist he knows more than me
[08:42] <Helge> I also have a IP phone that is between me and the internet, I was told it worked as a router, but didnt interfer with anything
[08:42] <Helge> I didnt find anything on the switch
[08:42] <icheyne> it might not be
[08:42] <icheyne> as trappist says, it might be your ISP
[08:42] <icheyne> bye
[08:42] <bLaZeD> anyone in here use guarddog?...
[08:43] <cloakable> Not I, but I did, why?
[08:43] <bLaZeD> where does it log to?
[08:43] <conrad_> how do i change screen  resolution?
[08:43] <bLaZeD> i just installed lastnight b4 bed and was wondering where it logs......its enabled to.....
[08:44] <conrad_> is the screen resolution in settings just a token gesture or does it actually work?
[08:44] <conrad_> 1280 is too small for me
[08:44] <bLaZeD> conrad_, u can manualy set it by editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:45] <conrad_> i have a 19" widescreen monitor b ut 1400x900 is not detected,   but 1024x768 works best
[08:45] <conrad_> bLaZeD:  so one has to manually edit xorg files in Linux to change screen resolution? what is the Kontrol center for?
[08:46] <bLaZeD> but conrad_ not as i dont use it
[08:46] <bLaZeD> *not sur
[08:46] <bLaZeD> *e
[08:46] <bLaZeD> bah
[08:46] <bLaZeD> conrad_, u can but like u said....it didnt detect it....so u can do it the down and dirty way
[08:47] <conrad_> bLaZeD: can i jut uncomment, and how?
[08:47] <Creeture> Kubuntu box, old AC97 soundcard. Can't get sound when using the alsa driver (snd-via82xx.ko) but the OSS module (via82cxxx_audio.ko) works like a champ. I can't get KDE, XMMS, Firefox, VLC all to agree to share the sound device. Any tips?
[08:48] <bLaZeD> conrad_, http://pastebin.ulteo.us/272 edit that in yours accordingly..then see if it appears in the kcontrol
[08:49] <bLaZeD> conrad_, but
[08:49] <bLaZeD> conrad_, BACK UP your old one 1st
[08:49] <bLaZeD> conrad_, if u mess up this one and dont have a back up.....you are forked
[08:49] <conrad_> !paste
[08:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:50] <conrad_> bLaZeD: i got forked already anyways. this is a fresh install, and if this doens't work out i'm going back to ubuntu
[08:50] <conrad_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34829/
[08:51] <conrad_> bLaZeD: can i uncomment the sizes i dont' want or do i have to take them all out
[08:51] <bLaZeD> and 1440 x 1440 is what u want?
[08:51] <cossidhon> PupenoR: To bad. Feisty is also still on kaffeine 0.8.2, and I want 0.8.3 in edgy
[08:52] <PupenoR> cossidhon: oops!
[08:52] <conrad_> bLaZeD: well, that is the natural size for a 19"widescreen but i've never seen it on linux. I always use 1024x768
[08:53] <PupenoR> cossidhon: if there's something important in 0.8.3, please, fill a bug report. Other than that take a look at checkinstall and/or upgrading a package from upstream.
[08:53] <bLaZeD> wait 1440 x 1440 is a square
[08:53] <bLaZeD> ?
[08:53] <bLaZeD> is it not?
[08:53] <conrad_> bLaZeD: lol, yea, but i know what you eman 1400x900
[08:53] <PupenoR> bLaZeD: if the pixels are square ;)
[08:54] <bLaZeD> oh well in your xorg.xonf its 1440x1440
[08:54] <bLaZeD> not 1440x900
[08:54] <cossidhon> PupenoR: No, its not _that_ important. I will keep the Feisty sources in my sources.list and keep checking if 0.8.3 is in, thanx for the help!
[08:55] <RawSewage> !Java
[08:55] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:55] <PupenoR> cossidhon: Feisty devs might not notice the new version of kaffeine and for them it is not so much work to upgrade, so, please, fill a bug report about it.
[08:56] <bLaZeD> conrad_, oh yea after u edit your xorg.conf.....u will need to log in and out of x(xtrl alt backspace will do) then see if its in there
[08:56] <cossidhon> PupenoR: Okay, we'll do
[08:56] <PupenoR> thank you.
[09:00] <steveire> Hi. I have a trivial shell script with echo "sometext" >> somefile in it which I can execute from the command line, but when I click the file in konqueror, it does not execute. Any idea why? The script also has a shebang and is mode 777
[09:01] <RawSewage> right-clic it
[09:01] <RawSewage> properties
[09:01] <PupenoR> steveire: tried a .sh extension ?
[09:01] <RawSewage> theres a checkbox to make it executable
[09:01] <steveire> it has one.
[09:01] <PupenoR> RawSewage: mode 777 makes it executable.
[09:01] <RawSewage> ok
[09:01] <trappist> steveire: 777 is bad mkay
[09:02] <steveire> trappist: It's a trivial example to demonstrate that this definitely doesn't work
[09:02] <PupenoR> steveire: even then, konqueror may not run shell scripts because it could be used as a boby-trap.
[09:03] <PupenoR> steveire: right click on it, click on the tool and see how that particular type of flag is being handled.
[09:03] <steveire> There is no tool
[09:06] <PupenoR> steveire: sorry, right-click, properties, and then on the little icon with a tool (I don't know how the tool is called in english).
[09:06] <steveire> application preference order etc, Kate etc.
[09:07] <PupenoR> steveire: maybe you can put there some application that instead of opening the file, runs it, like konsole -e (I am not sure if that's the right argument).
[09:08] <steveire> Yeah, I'm gonna do that now. I don't think I want the -e, that would open a konsole window.
[09:08] <PupenoR> steveire: if you put konsole whatever it'd open a konsole window, maybe you can put bash there ;)
[09:09] <trappist> steveire: or make a shortcut to it, with the 'open in terminal' flag on it
[09:14] <steveire> trappist: Where is the open in terminal flag?
[09:15] <steveire> sorry. I see it
[09:19] <AAA1> Hi all, I'd like to learn a programming language that would be cross platform, like I hear C++ is. Any suggestions (I'm a newbie)
[09:20] <fdoving> AAA1: python is a nice language.
[09:21] <AAA1> It is easy to learn? I've never heard of it.
[09:22] <AAA1> thanks fdoving
[09:24] <AAA1> Can I use Anjuta to compile it?
[09:25] <trappist> AAA1: you don't compile python, usually
[09:25] <AAA1> oh,
[09:26] <trappist> it's a scripting language
[09:26] <AAA1> that might make things easier, and will my Python programs work on other OS's (for when I'm away from home)?
[09:26] <trappist> like perl, ruby, etc.
[09:26] <AAA1> like Javascript?
[09:26] <AAA1> or vbs?
[09:26] <trappist> yes
[09:26] <AAA1> cool
[09:27] <trappist> AAA1: you can do things in python that aren't cross-platform, but if you don't, then yeah, they should run anywhere (if you have a python interpreter installed)
[09:28] <pussfeller> !firefox2
[09:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firefox2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:28] <pussfeller> !firefox
[09:28] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[09:28] <Frederick> folks wich program can I use to set up the compression rate of a jpeg file?
[09:28] <snowice> I have a problem playing flac files in amarok, it cuts of the last few seconds of every file. Problem is prob with the xine engine. Any fix for this?
[09:32] <drarem> ack, what's the command again to configure and make to compile source code
[09:32] <drarem> sudo ./configure  ?
[09:33] <cloakable> drarem: Just ./configure
[09:33] <fiyawerx> sudo would just have to be for the make install more than likely
[09:34] <drarem> thanks, it checked the stuff and created a Makefile
[09:34] <fiyawerx> nod, then you just type make
[09:34] <Alzi2> Hey. Whenever I try to enable pseudo transparency in Konsole, only the colors change. It doesn't display any background image. I tried editing the schemes and whenever i tried turning on transparency and saving, the next moment i edit it it went off again. Anyone?
[09:34] <drarem> thanks, i'll add that to my notes for next time
[09:35] <Alzi2> Searched the forums, but couldn't get answers. I hope someone knows...
[09:36] <trappist> Alzi2: I believe there's an open bug on that
[09:36] <trappist> on launchpad
[09:36] <Alzi2> Can you link me?
[09:38] <bunsen> hi
[09:38] <bunsen> where acn i find "all sources" sources.list tu kubuntu edgy ?
[09:38] <bunsen> can
[09:39] <mc__> bunsen: souch a thing wouldnt be a good idea
[09:39] <mc__> bunsen: all addition sources are dangerous
[09:39] <bunsen> mc__: what do you mean ?
[09:39] <bunsen> mc__: so where can i finde good and safe sources.list example ?
[09:39] <mc__> bunsen: it's not a good idea to add all 3rd party repos
[09:40] <bunsen> mc__: ok
[09:40] <mc__> bunsen: google for it
[09:40] <Alzi2>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:40] <bunsen> mc__: i tried to google it .. but i can't find anything
[09:40] <mc__> bunsen: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:40] <Alzi2>  uncomment the universe section and add multiverse to them both.
[09:41] <mc__> bunsen: just follow the link i gave you
[09:41] <MrBallZ> hi, i have 3 packages in adept that won't upgrade, they say they are upgradable but if upgraded they'll break something else ... the packages are: build-essentials, dpkg-dev, g++  ... what should I do ?
[09:42] <Alzi2> mc__: That one doesn't have Edgy...
[09:42] <brainless_> I'm getting kind of scared here :/
[09:42] <bunsen> mc__: theres list's for ubuntu only ?
[09:42] <Alzi2> brainless_: Why?
[09:43] <brainless_> I'm doing a large step ... deleting the Windows partitions...
[09:43] <bunsen> mc__: to kubuntu edgy
[09:43] <Xal2> I attempted to reinstall Grub, but I installed it on the wrong drive (an NTFS drive) and now it appears to be empty, and needs to be formated. I installed it to the partition rather than the MBR
[09:44] <mc__> bunsen: what are you actualy trying to do?
[09:44] <brainless_> after using kubuntu without any problems (well, without any problems worth mentioning) and without booting to Win, I hope I can do without...
[09:44] <Alzi2> brainless_: Why without kubuntu?
[09:45] <brainless_> without Windows
[09:45] <bunsen> mc__: trying to find workins sources.list so i can upgrade ..
[09:45] <mc__> bunsen: just replace all "dapper" in your sources.list with "edgy"
[09:46] <Alzi2> brainless_: don't install it. You still need it at some point in your life.
[09:47] <trappist> Alzi2: what, windows? why?
[09:47] <mc__> bunsen: than do a sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:47] <mc__> bunsen: i meant update
[09:47] <mc__> bunsen: you should NOT upgrade with apt-get
[09:48] <Alzi2> trappist: Just admit it, you need it at some point in your life if you need something you can only do in windows. Be it in vmware, or harddrive.
[09:48] <brainless_> Alzi2: I'll try living the next year without a windows on this laptop and without doing anything on a Win-machine I couldn't do on my laptop - and then we'll talk again ;)
[09:48] <trappist> Alzi2: I haven't used windows at all in years
[09:48] <Alzi2> trappist: I still need it for some things..
[09:48] <lai> how come everytime I open my package manager it say I can't make any changes?
[09:49] <lai> I tryed restarting but I keep getting it, its like theres an open thread or something
[09:49] <trappist> Alzi2: the closest I come is wine, which fills in all the gaps for me
[09:50] <Alzi2> trappist: Well, being anti-windows is not good either. I have them both on my side =)
[09:52] <brainless_> Alzi2: well, I'm not anti-Win anymore ... I just don't want to use it anymore. It should be possible to survive this, shouldn't it?
[09:52] <Alzi2> [21:43]  <Chewy954> Alzi2, i know, im not a n00b, i had my own server b4 lolz <- Masterful. "I'm not a n00b lolz!" :D
[09:52] <lai> can any one help me out
[09:52] <Alzi2> brainless_: Nyah..... i don't want to use it either, but i'm forced to :P
[09:52] <brainless_> sorry to hear that ... I'm not forced to :)
[09:52] <trappist> Alzi2: I'm curious: for what?
[09:52] <brainless_> not yet, that is :/
[09:54] <brainless_> lai: is there some way to be more specific about your packet manager's behavior or just a "Can't make any changes"-message?
[09:54] <Alzi2> trappist: Games..... some documents (although they are getting more and more supported), proper downloading support...
[09:54] <lai> I can't make any changes
[09:55] <lai> Thats it, I can search for packages but I can't apply any
[09:55] <trappist> Alzi2: I can see games, but I'm happy to limit my gaming to what is available natively or via cedega.  I haven't found a document yet that I can't at least deal with in wine.  downloading support?
[09:56] <Alzi2> trappist: I'm not a WINE/Cedega(non-free) wizard (I wish there was WHISKY! :D, and I need my fun...
[09:56] <brainless_> lai: you've typed in your password?
[09:56] <trappist> Alzi2: I can dig that, but that doesn't quite qualify as 'forced' :)
[09:56] <lai> yea
[09:57] <Alzi2> trappist: Some friends want me to play some games :P
[09:57] <lai> It loads and everything, but right before it gets to the main screen it says "can't make any changes" , make sure that something else isn't using adept but I restarted to make sure nothing was using it
[09:58] <brainless_> I feared so ... maybe reconfiguring your packet manager helps? Try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure adept"
[09:58] <MrBallZ> I have 3 packages in adept that won't upgrade, they say they are upgradable but if upgraded they'll break something else ... the packages are: build-essentials, dpkg-dev, g++  ... what should I do ?
[09:58] <lai> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.<---the message I get
[09:58] <Alzi2> brainless_: I didn't know you could reconfigure package managers? neat :P
[09:58] <pelle_> hey guys!  I need help!  how do I format my Windows partition and add that memory to my Linux partition?
[09:58] <brainless_> you can try to ;)
[09:58] <Bubba_Gump> is the lyrc server down?
[09:59] <brainless_> pelle_ are you sure you know what you're going to do?
[09:59] <pelle_> yes, I wanna get rid of Windows
[09:59] <pelle_> cause I neveru se it
[09:59] <pelle_> never use it*
[09:59] <pelle_> I asked earlier but the guy didnt ansver
[10:00] <pelle_> it had something to do with Krusader or whatever
[10:00] <B-Minus> I have a dual boot system, i installed kubuntu with 20 GB space, windows got the other 80 GB, now i want to give linux 40 G more, is that still possible ??
[10:00] <brainless_> to make it an ext3-partition, use "mke2fs -j /dev/hdx*"; to check that partition for errors, add a -c behind the -j (and to do real hard error detection, use "-c -c" and go for some camping...
[10:01] <carlos_> Does anyone know how to acess a digital camera on Kubuntu? I have a Kodak CD43.
[10:01] <brainless_> Alzi2: it seems like I am able to reconfigure my adept, at least dpkg-reconfigure adept doesn't give an error message for me...
[10:02] <pelle_> kthx
[10:02] <lai> dpkg --configure -a <--- this command it fixed unexpectdly
[10:02] <brainless_> pelle_: no problem, just don't come asking how to get the partition back...
[10:03] <pelle_> but do does it know wich partition to format?
[10:03] <lai> I know what happend I had an update that could never finish
[10:04] <pelle_> the partition is called dev/sda1
[10:04] <brainless_> lai: can you tell if it's known that this update may never finish? if not, it might be worth a bug report...
[10:04] <jason> pelle_, use the command sudo fdisk -l and it will show you which partitions are on your system
[10:04] <pelle_> so do I go: sudo mke2fs -j /dev/sda1/hdx
[10:04] <brainless_> pelle_: is it an SATA-hdd?
[10:05] <carlos_> Does anyone know how to acess a digital camera on Kubuntu? I have a Kodak CD43.
[10:05] <pelle_> SATA 2
[10:05] <jason> if you had a pre-existing windows installation before you installed ubuntu, your windows partition will more than likely be hda1
[10:05] <danny500> um I have an extremly bad problem.
[10:05] <danny500> I think some one is hacking me
[10:05] <danny500> and my firestarter won't work properly
[10:05] <Furesho> i just installed superkaramba via adept and i just installed the tuxbar theme from kde-look.org following the instrucs to a tee. problem is, i don't see not dock bar on my desktop like i should and google isn't helpin much. any clues?
[10:06] <danny500> what does that do?
[10:06] <pelle_> brainless:  /dev/sda1 is what I wanna format and add to my /dev/sda3
[10:06] <brainless_> pelle_: ok, I just expected a hardware setup you obviously don't have ... just use "/dev/sda1" (IF sda1 is your windows' partition), "/dev/hdx*" has two variables in it, x and * (with x being the hard drive we're talking about and * the partition number)
[10:07] <pelle_> how do I figure out the x?
[10:08] <danny500> Furesho> what does superkaramba do?
[10:08] <brainless_> pelle_: I am not able to tell you how to add sda1 to sda3 (I've never merged partitions in Linux) but you could just assign a mount point to sda1 and use it...
[10:08] <danny500> never mind
[10:08] <pelle_> brainless:  and how can I do that?
[10:08] <lenscape> !picasa
[10:08] <ubotu> Picasa from Google can be downloaded in .deb format from: http://picasa.google.com/linux/download.html
[10:09] <pelle_> brainless:  and I dont know which harddrive it is
[10:09] <brainless_> pelle_: hda: First hard drive on the first IDE controller, hdb: second hard drive on the first controller, hdc: first hard drive on the second controller, hdd: second hard drive on the second controller...
[10:09] <pelle_> oic
[10:09] <BluesKaj> !superkaramba
[10:09] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[10:09] <cloakable> !karamba
[10:09] <pelle_> sudo mke2fs -j /dev/sda/hda1
[10:09] <pelle_> is that right?
[10:10] <brainless_> nope
[10:10] <brainless_> "sudo mke2fs -j /dev/sda1" will probably work for you
[10:10] <cloakable> !Samba
[10:10] <cloakable> :(
[10:11] <pelle_> alot of stuff going on now with the Terminal :S
[10:11] <brainless_> to assign a mount point to sda1, go into the K Menu -> System Settings -> Disk&Filesystems and enjoy the graphical interface or edit the fstab
[10:12] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:12] <pelle_> thank you
[10:12] <brainless_> thank me when it all works out ;)
[10:12] <BluesKaj> !fstab
[10:12] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[10:13] <brainless_> hmm ... the mtab lists everything that is mounted, fstab lists everything that can be mounted, doesn't it?
[10:13] <pelle_> brainless:  ok haha
[10:14] <brainless_> ok, my kubuntu is down for a reboot ... if it all worked out, I'll be back with an encrypted /home...
[10:14] <danny500> if this is your info speak now, c-68-32-68-55.hsd1.ga.comcast.net if no one answers me I'm going to be erasing this guy hard drive!
[10:16] <danny500> ip address is 68.32.68.55
[10:16] <danny500> anybody?
[10:16] <brainless_> doesn't sound like me...
[10:16] <danny500> ok
[10:16] <brainless_> are you sure the system on that IP address does not equal 127.0.0.1?
[10:18] <danny500> um, why did I get kicked? I'm just asking a question cause somebody is hacking me.
[10:18] <trappist> danny500: you don't threaten to do something destructive to a remote machine, even if you think you're being hacked.
[10:19] <danny500> I'm not
[10:19] <fiyawerx> danny500: you didnt ask a question, you 'threatened to erase someones hard drive' and if you were that competant and able, chances are you wouldn't be getting 'hacked'
[10:19] <danny500> was that an actuall remote machine?
[10:19] <fiyawerx> and would already have known the answer to your original question
[10:19] <trappist> danny500: did you think it was your machine?
[10:20] <danny500> I did that so if anyone in this is the one doing it would stop, sorry.
[10:20] <trappist> danny500: for future reference, don't.
[10:20] <danny500> ok
[10:20] <strlng> I'm trying to remove a package and it's erroring out, is there some way to flush or force remove a package with apt?
[10:21] <hyper_ch> hiya trappist
[10:21] <hyper_ch> hello abbatoir
[10:21] <BluesKaj> yeah there is , strlng, but you may end up with broken pkgs
[10:22] <strlng> BluesKaj: It's a package with no dependencies installed so I'm not too worried.
[10:22] <danny500> strlng< look up the program and erase everthing that is related to it.
[10:22] <BluesKaj> ok
[10:22] <strlng> danny500: and then my package db is still screwed up
[10:24] <ramo1> hi all, im having some problems with getting a phpmyadmin install on ubuntu 6.10 I can not seem to get the apt get. Im new to ubuntu so anything will help I guess....
[10:25] <strlng> BluesKaj: Would you be able to tell me how to force a package removal?
[10:27] <BluesKaj> string , sudo dpkg --force- remove-"filename "
[10:29] <lenscape> !googleearth
[10:29] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[10:30] <lenscape> I do like this little bot
[10:30] <BluesKaj> Google Earth has problems with some ATI cards in Edgy
[10:30] <lenscape> Nvidia innit :-)
[10:31] <eilker> !varrun > eilker
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about varrun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:38] <jakub_> hi all
[10:38] <jakub_> i was running a program in screen on computer A in which i ssh'd to computer B
[10:38] <jakub_> so i background process P and then the screen on computer A is abrupted by a restart
[10:38] <jakub_> so now i have a tty-less process running
[10:38] <jakub_> how do i get the process running foregrounded on computer B again?
[10:39] <bryan_> can someone tell me how in konquerer i can see all the top level folders?  in breezy and dapper i would use the navigation panel and select the root folder tab.  but in edgy it only shows my home and media folders
[10:40] <hanso> hey. when I watch videos in fullscreen I get horisontal stripes in movement. what can be wrong?
[10:40] <LordOllie> has anyone got any version of MSN messenger to install?
[10:41] <hyper_ch> aMSN
[10:41] <hanso> bryan: go to "view" and "view hidden files"
[10:41] <LordOllie> hyper_ch: tried it but it is still lacking features
[10:42] <jakub_> i don't want to kill the process, but i want to make sure i see the output of it
[10:42] <jakub_> how would i do that? i basically want control over the process again
[10:43] <wildchild> !apache
[10:43] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[10:43] <bryan_> hanso: thanks, that showed all the folders on the right side, but not the left like it used to.  also, why are these folders considered hidden? they don't start with a dot?
[10:43] <fiyawerx> jakub_: the screen was running on the machine that rebooted?
[10:43] <jakub_> fiyawerx: correct (for our purposes, let's call it computer A)
[10:44] <LordOllie> can anyone help me with installing MSN? or is it impossible?
[10:44] <hanso> bryan: that I don't know. and I don't know how to get them to show on the left side
[10:44] <fiyawerx> jakub_: hm, maybe you should have run the process under screen on computer B :)
[10:44] <fiyawerx> good question tho
[10:45] <bryan_> hanso: ok, not showing on the left isn't such a big issue.  but i don't like that i now have to show hidden files no view non-hidden folders
[10:46] <Permafr0st> hallo welt
[10:47] <hanso> bryan: ask again and see if there are other who know a solution
[10:48] <otaku-san> how do you change the background of konqueror?
[10:49] <bryan_> can someone tell me how in konquerer i can see all the top level folders?  in breezy and dapper i would use the navigation panel and select the root folder tab.  but in edgy it only shows my home and media folders.  if i show hidden files, i can view all the folders and files on the right, but they are not hidden and i shoudn't have to do this.  breezy and dapper worked as expected.
[10:52] <Permafr0st> root folders to be shown by clicking one of the left tabs !?  (i use Dappy)
[10:52] <suds> hi, got a strange problem with my kubuntu..on booting, unless i press ctrl-alt-f7, the x windows doesnt start! absolutely nothing in log files...anyone else come across this strangeness?
[10:53] <Permafr0st> oups
[10:53] <suds> btw, i'm using edgy eft
[10:53] <bryan_> Permafr0st: if you press F9 to display the navigation panel then select root folder, you will see al your folders in dapper
[10:53] <LordOllie> has anyone here installed a Java IDE?
[10:53] <bryan_> in edgy you only see home and media folders
[10:53] <Permafr0st> Dapper was recommendet to me - stable - for the beginners
[10:55] <Permafr0st> bryan yeh i know thanx. thought it could be a solution to you..
[10:56] <Permafr0st> oh i'm afraid i have to deal with the JRE one day, unless im not able to launch my DVD apps..
[10:56] <Permafr0st> DVB sorry
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> LordOllie: try Eclipse
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> i installed it once on Ubuntu
[10:57] <bryan_> it's just frustrating that's all because that as always been my primary way to navigate the system and now it's gone
[10:59] <crusty> hallo......my webcam SN0C105 is not working on kubuntu...any help??? thanks
[10:59] <bryan_> it's ok... i'll ask in a few hours, may a different group of people will be here, thanks Perm and hanso
[10:59] <Martijn81> quick question, does every unix system has a file /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:59] <Admiral_Chicago> bryan_: it's in /.hidden
[10:59] <Martijn81> the systems which run kde that is
[11:00] <Admiral_Chicago> everything is still accessible, but you have to search for it, it's kind of a ne feature but I don't like it
[11:00] <Permafr0st> ah ein Deutscher :) hallo Smooph
[11:01] <Smooph> hi
[11:02] <bryan_> admiral: thanks.. i see it... so i just have to rename this file away??  i'm new to linux, coming from windows and navigating from the navigation panel felt natural in breezy and dapper.  i don't see why they would hide this feature.  i like to seeing everything and use the "edit as root" feature
[11:03] <sungam> hi
[11:04] <easytiger> hey... i'm following the instructions http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Installation_HowTo#Distribution_Packages but the package list is apparently wrong
[11:04] <easytiger> how do i get latest amarok?
[11:04] <Admiral_Chicago> bryan_: the idea is that those are your root files, if you need to edit them, you wouldn't do it in konqueror
[11:04] <Admiral_Chicago> easytiger: let me get you a link
[11:04] <Permafr0st> yet another question: anyone successfully installed Klear DVB app. ?
[11:05] <easytiger> Admiral_Chicago: : thanks
[11:06] <Admiral_Chicago> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.4.php
[11:06] <bryan_> Admiral: thanks... i renamed the file away it works as expected.  but i do edit root files in konquerer via the "edit as root" option :)
[11:07] <Admiral_Chicago> bryan_: if you know the location, you can do a kdesu kate /location
[11:07] <Admiral_Chicago> anyways i'll bbl
[11:08] <easytiger> Admiral_Chicago: when i run apt-geet update after adding those sources it gives an md5sum error
[11:09] <bryan_> Admiral:  yes i know what you are getting at and i do that.  but i usually browse to the file then edit.  just a windows habit...
[11:09] <Admiral_Chicago> easytiger: do you have riddell's key?
[11:09] <easytiger> i added it yea.. i'll try adding it again
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> easytiger: what line did you use?
[11:10] <BluesKaj> hmm.. ./make  isn't working  ...sometimes ./config works and sometimes it doesn't ...it worked this time  , but now ./make isn't .. WTH ?
[11:11] <Permafr0st> Blues  as plain user or with "sudo" ?
[11:11] <Admiral_Chicago> BluesKaj: what does the INSTALL file tell you?
[11:11] <eukaryote> Anyone know how to turn off kasbar? It doesn't seem to have a 'close' capability. What am I missing?
[11:11] <easytiger> Admiral_Chicago: line
[11:11] <easytiger> ?
[11:11] <Admiral_Chicago> Permafr0st: ./configure && make && sudo make install is the chain, sudo shouldn't matter
[11:11] <Admiral_Chicago> easytiger: what line did you add to your sources.list
[11:13] <Permafr0st> Admiral  tnx i will try (have the same prob as BluesKaJ)   .. but bash: "  ./configure: No such file or directory  "
[11:13] <easytiger> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-144 edgy main
[11:13] <Admiral_Chicago> Permafr0st: what does ls say?
[11:14] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe try a pwd to make sure your in the right dir
[11:14] <Admiral_Chicago> easytiger: hold on a suc
[11:14] <BluesKaj> Admiral_Chicago, no such file or directory
[11:14] <Admiral_Chicago> sec*
[11:14] <Permafr0st> the bash is at /home/pino/klear-0.6.0
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> easytiger: btw, are you on dapper?
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> okay give me a sec
[11:15] <Permafr0st> k
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste > Permafr0st
[11:15] <Admiral_Chicago> paste the ls output of the dir
[11:16] <Kr4t05> Question. I just transfered my install to a new hard drive, and now I have some permission problems. What can I do to set perms to default?
[11:16] <Kr4t05> I'm using the LiveCD right now.
[11:17] <Permafr0st> Admiral_Chicago:  oups ok, im new to this bot functin
[11:17] <Permafr0st> function
[11:17] <ubuntu__> hey i have a question, can kubuntu be installed on an external hard drive via firewire?
[11:17] <afm\colossus> installed of course
[11:17] <Admiral_Chicago> just open the link, and enter the ls output and hit enter. then post it to me
[11:17] <afm\colossus> if your system is able to boot from ieee1394
[11:18] <afm\colossus> that's more of a question
[11:18] <Admiral_Chicago> the link after you submitt it to the page thaht is
[11:19] <ubuntu__> well i am on a mac, so if i install it, and reboot while holding down the option key, then it whould work right??
[11:19] <Permafr0st> ooh cool
[11:19] <Permafr0st> Admiral   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34847/
[11:19] <Kr4t05> How would I set the file permissions for my entire system to the default?
[11:20] <afm\colossus> by reinstalling ;)
[11:20] <Kr4t05> afm\colossus: Not my first choice... But, I suppose I may as well...
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> Permafr0st: what does the INSTALL.README.FIRST file say?
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> open it. "nano INSTALL.README.FIRST"
[11:21] <Frederick> folks wich program can I use to browse newsgroups in kde?
[11:21] <Permafr0st> Admiral_Chicago:     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34848/
[11:22] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get install scons
[11:23] <Frederick> Admiral_Chicago: for me?
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> no to Permafr0st
[11:23] <Frederick> k
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> Frederick: what do yoe mean newsgroups/
[11:23] <Permafr0st> Admiral_Chicago:   tnx i ll try now
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> Permafr0st: then ./build.sh
[11:25] <Permafr0st> Admiral_Chicago:  scons successful tnx.  but he misses qt:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34849/
[11:25] <henk> hi I seach a Driver for a Canon MP130
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> Permafr0st: look for qt-headers, same for libxine and kde
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> apt-cache search qt headers
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm going to bbl, PM me if you wish Permafr0st
[11:27] <sungam> Frederick, Think Thunderbird has built in usenet news reader. There's KNews and PAN too, but I haven't used them
[11:27] <Permafr0st> Admiral_Chicago:  tnx.  im not registered it will block my pm
[11:27] <Admiral_Chicago> Permafr0st: email me
[11:27] <henk> help please
[11:27] <Admiral_Chicago> !printing
[11:27] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:28] <henk> i seach a driver for a Canon mp130 printer
[11:28] <afm\colossus> www.linuxprinting.org
[11:28] <Permafr0st> !qt
[11:28] <ubotu> qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.
[11:30] <Permafr0st> Admiral_Chicago: freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu  is your addy?
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> no i PMed you
[11:31] <Permafr0st> Admiral_Chicago:  k, tnx so far very much :)
[11:31] <bLaZeD> is there a way to tell if a program is trying to axx the internet...and if so on what port(s)....long story short i have a few programs that use some weird port...and i need to open it in my firewall....
[11:32] <afm\colossus> man netstat
[11:32] <bLaZeD> well if the firewall is blocking it...will netstat still show it trying to connect?
[11:33] <afm\colossus> netstat can only show established connections
[11:33] <fiyawerx> if the firewall is blocking it, can't you check the firewall program or its logs?
[11:33] <lalo> hello all
[11:34] <afm\colossus> there's the LOG target for packets caught by netfilter
[11:34] <lalo> can someone help me about getting the free space of my disk on kubuntu?
[11:34] <afm\colossus> df -h
[11:35] <lalo> i mean...i have kubuntu on a partition...i would like to know the free space of the kubuntu partition
[11:35] <BluesKaj> well, i don't understand the inconsistencies with ./configure , make, make instakk commands ...must be that the pkges are lacking some required components
[11:35] <BluesKaj> install
[11:36] <bLaZeD> afm\colossus, im a litle confused...is it possible to lets say open programA and tell what ports its trying to axx the inet with>
[11:36] <fiyawerx> BluesKaj: those commands are (usually) fairly consistant with telling you what you're missing when they fail
[11:36] <melecio_> question. I'm on Kubuntu Edgy and i have a HD of 160 GB wich i have partitioned for Windows XP and Linux... so, every time i log on with Kubuntu i have to mount a partition i wich i keep my files but, kubuntu doesn't seem to save this config, everytime i restart de PC i have to mount the partition... i was told that i had to edit /etc/fstab, help?
[11:36] <sungam> lalo, afm\colossus already answered you. Do 'df -h' in a terminal :)
[11:36] <lalo> thanks a lot afm
[11:36] <afm\colossus> bLaZeD: well, that's exactly what netstat does
[11:36] <afm\colossus> you're welcome, lalo :)
[11:36] <lalo> THANKS a LOT YOU ALL GUYS
[11:36] <lalo> KUBUNTU ROCKS
[11:37] <eukaryote> Frederick: knode seems quite a please
[11:37] <LjL> !caps
[11:37] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:37] <Frederick> eukaryote: yup
[11:37] <bLaZeD> well how with it....didnt u just say that netstat can only show connections established
[11:37] <afm\colossus> yeah well, outbound connections too ;)
[11:37] <eukaryote> Frederick: knode seems quite pleasant; not used it myself, just looked at it
[11:38] <BluesKaj> fiyawerx, like nor directory ?
[11:38] <melecio_> no one?
[11:38] <icheyne> anyone know of a good photo editor. I'm not keen on Krita or the Gimp
[11:38] <bLaZeD> ah
[11:39] <icheyne> ?
[11:39] <afm\colossus> there are virtually no alternatives
[11:39] <icheyne> :(
[11:40] <LjL> there's some non-free alternatives. Pixel32 for instance
[11:40] <afm\colossus> yuck.
[11:40] <icheyne> yeah I've heard of it.
[11:40] <rockprincess> evening all! does anyone know how to configure java on kubuntu?
[11:40] <LjL> !java
[11:40] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:40] <icheyne> afm\colossus:why yuck? non-free or rubbish or both?
[11:40] <afm\colossus> non-free
[11:40] <icheyne> ok thx
[11:40] <afm\colossus> as long as there are viable alternatives
[11:41] <afm\colossus> there's no need to go proprietary
[11:41] <rockprincess> LJL: i've done that....but i can't figure out how to set the classpath and the path :(
[11:41] <icheyne> yeah, but for me gimp and krita aren't too viable :(
[11:41] <icheyne> I'm trying to run Photofiltre over wine now
[11:41] <afm\colossus> for me, both of them are ;)
[11:41] <icheyne> it's my favourite in Windows
[11:42] <icheyne> hey it seems to work!
[11:42] <icheyne> :D
[11:43] <BluesKaj> icheyne, any lil utility for redeye removal ...my sony dhc-50 prog doesn't install in linux
[11:43] <LjL> rockprincess: what are you trying to configure java for? web browsing of java sites, or something else?
[11:43] <sungam> melecio_, yes. Edit /etc/fstab. Syntax varies a bit depending on what kind of file system and such. There's a howto at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[11:44] <icheyne> it's easier than the others. Like I said earlier - Picasa is good too
[11:44] <rockprincess> LjL: no i need to write a program in java, and i always get errors and i assume it's due to the false path....
[11:44] <Pupeno> Any recomendation of P2P programs for Kubuntu ? Other than ktorrent, I am looking for a traditional P2P protocol... if it includes/is Gnutella, better.
[11:44] <melecio_> sungam: thanks a lot.. i'll give it a shot
[11:44] <afm\colossus> mldonkey
[11:44] <afm\colossus> @ Pupeno
[11:45] <icheyne> !p2p | Pupeno
[11:45] <ubotu> Pupeno: Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[11:45] <cloakable> !guarddog
[11:45] <ubotu> guarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 476 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[11:45] <LjL> BluesKaj: digiKam inclues that AFAIK
[11:46] <BluesKaj> ok LjL, thx ...I'll check it out  :)
[11:46] <sungam> melecio_, be careful with it, though. Make sure you take a backup before you try anyhting you're not sure about :)
[11:46] <rockprincess> LjL: also i would need to set the correct CLASSPATH to the Java Media Framework (JMF)
[11:47] <rockprincess> LjL: but again I don't know how...
[11:47] <eukaryote> I tried kasbar but don't like it. How do I get rid of it?
[11:48] <icheyne> BluesKaj: I just tried Dijicam. It does a very nice job of red eye reduction. very sweet indeed
[11:48] <icheyne> out goes picasa!
[11:50] <MidMark> hi
[11:50] <MidMark> I've installed mysql, but there is no init script installed...
[11:50] <MidMark> how can I start it?
[11:51] <afm\colossus> what did you install?
[11:51] <afm\colossus> mysql-server-5.0?
[11:52] <MidMark> yes
[11:52] <afm\colossus> there is an init-script for sure
[11:52] <afm\colossus> i happened to edit it today ;)
[11:52] <MidMark> emm ok sorry
[11:52] <MidMark> I've only the client :)
[11:52] <afm\colossus> ;)
[11:53] <MidMark> I've installed wordpress and thought it have installed also the server
[11:53] <MidMark> but seems not
[12:00] <sungam> melecio,  how did it go?
[12:00] <nickv111> I just reinstalled Kubuntu yesterday, and the CD recognized my sound card as an ATI SB card. However, now that I've rebooted and such a few times, it's now (incorrectly) recognized as a ALC883. When it was recognized as an ATI SB card, it worked really well, but now, though the sound works, I don't have nearly as many options in kmix, and a lot of things don't work right
[12:00] <nickv111> How do I prevent it from labeling it as an ALC883?
[12:01] <kgx> hi. how can start konsole with 2 tabs with 2 session types?
[12:03] <MidMark> kgx: start them and save as default
[12:04] <alm_> hello everybody
[12:04] <alm_> can anybody tell me which version of alsa is in edgy
[12:04] <afm\colossus> colo@spareparts:~$ cat /proc/asound/version
[12:04] <afm\colossus> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.12rc1 (Thu Jun 22 13:55:50 2006 UTC).
[12:06] <kgx> MidMark: hmm..good idea. cheers
[12:06] <melecio> sungam: it worked! thanks a lot!
[12:06] <alm_> afm> thanks..but can I update it to 1.0.13
[12:08] <yiannis> geia
[12:08] <alm_> because i cannot hear sound from my laptop speaker,only can hear it from headphone..will upgrade solve this issue
[12:10] <ubunt> DE or EN?
[12:11] <fiyawerx> alm_: can always try a live boot to see if it does
[12:11] <ubunt> Anybody out there?
[12:11] <ubunt> ups.
[12:11] <fiyawerx> hi ubunt: lots of people usually check in often but not watch constantly
[12:12] <ubunt> short question. Can I install "original" debian packages on ubuntu? For example I would like to run RKWard but the version is 0.3.6 and the current is 0.4.1.
[12:13] <mc__> ubunt: you can but its not guaranted to work
[12:14] <ubunt> mc__:how does it come that the packages is to outdated? Do you know. I use to run Kanotix (which is Debian/Sid).
[12:15] <mc__> ubunt: ubuntu is based on a freezed version of debian testing