[12:17] <david_corrales_> hi everyone :)
[12:20] <david_corrales_> anyone know if there's any special procedure for changing the locale of docbook documents for yelp?
[12:26] <dsas> david_corrales_: Do you mean translating the documents? Or running yelp to run using another language that already has a translation?
[12:30] <david_corrales_> hi and thanks :)
[12:30] <david_corrales_> the second one, running yelp with a different docbook
[12:31] <david_corrales_> corresponding to the current locale
[12:33] <dsas> david_corrales_: it should automatically run to what the users locale is set to, if the correct langpack is installed
[12:33] <david_corrales_> I'm asking because I'm in charge of integrating yelp with Jokosher
[12:34] <dsas> david_corrales_: oh, from a development point of view I think there's some Deep Magic
[12:34] <david_corrales_> I was thinking about using the standard locale folders for organizing different docbook translations
[12:35] <dsas> david_corrales_: mdke is the one most likely to know about how it works, something to do with .omf and scrollkeeper I believe
[12:35] <dsas> david_corrales_: also the guys in the gnome-doc channel on irc.gimpnet.org
[12:35] <david_corrales_> thanks for the info
[12:35] <dsas> david_corrales_: mdke probably documented it in our wiki, I'll see if I can find anything.
[12:35] <david_corrales_> I'll go ask the gnome peeps
[12:35] <david_corrales_> thanks for your help :)
[12:36] <dsas> david_corrales_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Translation
[12:37] <david_corrales_> cool, checking it out right now
[12:38] <david_corrales_> thanks
[12:40] <david_corrales_> hmm gnome-doc is empty
[12:40] <david_corrales_> lol
[01:00] <david_corrales_> that bug also affects the tempo of course
[01:00] <david_corrales_> since it'll set an invalid or None value internally
[01:00] <dsas> david_corrales_: sorry, it's #docs
[01:01] <david_corrales_> I already joined
[01:01] <david_corrales_> but no answers yet
[01:01] <david_corrales_> still, thanks for the info
[01:01] <david_corrales_> :)
[01:03] <dsas> david_corrales_: Feel free to look at our Makefile and translate.sh they should help.
[01:05] <david_corrales_> where are those located?
[01:10] <dsas> david_corrales_: https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk/Makefile
[01:10] <david_corrales_> thanks man :)
[01:10] <david_corrales_> already found someone willing on the docs channel! w00t
[01:11] <dsas> david_corrales_:  andhttps://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk/ubuntu/desktopguide/translate.sh
[01:11] <dsas> david_corrales_:  Cool, good luck.
[01:12] <david_corrales_> thanks a bunch, excellent startup
[03:59] <somian> How's our tolerence here, for OT user questions?
[04:00] <crimsun> aka "support" questions?
[04:00] <somian> Yep
[04:00] <crimsun> use #ubuntu / #kubuntu / #xubuntu / #edubuntu
[04:00] <somian> I'm running ubuntu and tried #ubuntu
[04:00] <somian> It's impossible, killed by its own success, apparently.
[04:00] <crimsun> try again in a bit
[04:01] <somian> Even if s'ome there know the answer to my question, I don't think they'll ever see it.
[04:01] <crimsun> or use a distribution-independent channel
[04:01] <somian> It's a pretty distro-specific question.
[04:01] <crimsun> again, #ubuntu .
[04:01] <somian> I've got a 6.06 workstation cd I am running as a live system. Under these circumstances (I cannot perform a full system install on this box), does Ubuntu have support for choosing a hard disk directory to be $HOME, or at least for saving user files / config?
[04:08] <robotgeek> Burgundavia: do you access to planet.ubuntu.com?
[04:10] <Burgundavia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlanetUbuntu
[04:10] <robotgeek> thanks Burgundavia
[04:11] <somian> robotgeek+
[04:11] <robotgeek> somian: i have no idea
[06:48] <towsonu2003> I usually don't post the same message to all the chat rooms I'm in, but you've gotta see this: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Kurdish_operating_system_under_investigation_by_Turkish_attorney_general
[06:48] <towsonu2003> Kurdish operating system in that link is... Ubuntu.
[07:32] <Burgundavia> towsonu2003: hmm
[07:33] <Burgundavia> towsonu2003: assuming that is correct (you speak Turkish, correct?), please add it to this weeks UWN
[07:33] <towsonu2003> I did :) -I'm Turkish-
[07:34] <towsonu2003> Burgundavia, it's #24 right? (just to make sure it was the correct one ehueh)
[07:34] <Burgundavia> yep
[07:34] <towsonu2003> Burgundavia, ok, thanks
[08:49] <mdke> morning
[08:50] <Burgundavia> morning mdke
[08:51] <Burgundavia> mpt: merge teams is something you LP people can do
[08:53] <mdke> there is a bug open about that
[08:53] <mdke> it's been open for a seriously long time
[08:57] <mpt> oh
[08:58] <mdke> well, january anyway
[09:00] <Burgundavia> mdke: hmm, just looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TopicBasedHelp/TopLevelCategories
[09:00] <mdke> yeah
[09:00] <Burgundavia> good stuff, one comment
[09:01] <Burgundavia> the new ot ubuntu stuff
[09:01] <mdke> yes
[09:01] <Burgundavia> maybe the common qeustions should be its own topic heading
[09:02] <mdke> it is, isn't it?
[09:02] <Burgundavia> the new to ubuntu is the common questions?
[09:02] <Burgundavia> then how about this: rename new to ubuntu to common questions
[09:02] <Burgundavia> and have a "moving to Ubuntu" section
[09:03] <Burgundavia> with quick tips on people moving from windows, mac, other linux distros, etc.
[09:03] <mdke> sure, sounds good
[09:03] <Burgundavia> ok, will do the edits
[09:03] <mdke> if the Switching document gets finished that will go well there
[09:04] <Burgundavia> yep
[09:04] <Burgundavia> but the migration assistant is getting paid work this cycle
[09:05] <Burgundavia> ok, I hate compiz
[09:06] <mdke> migration assistant?
[09:06] <Burgundavia> the thing that pulls data from existing OSes and dumps them into Ubuntu
[09:06] <mpt> I don't think people will go into "Common Questions" just in case their question is a common one
[09:06] <Burgundavia> Fast Answers?
[09:07] <mpt> heh
[09:07] <mdke> mpt: you think they'll go to the search?
[09:07] <mpt> 1. Fast Answers
[09:07] <mpt> 2. Slow Answers
[09:07] <Burgundavia> 3. Slower Answers
[09:07] <Burgundavia> 4. Answers so slow we should shoot them
[09:08] <mdke> well, I'm not a fan of including sections which aren't topic structured, but I felt that people wanted a faq type section
[09:08] <mpt> mdke, I think the only way listing common questions would help would be doing it on the front page, so that people consider them at the same time as they consider the topics
[09:08] <mpt> which would mean, only a few of them
[09:08] <mdke> we can leave it out if the topics we have are obvious enough that people can go there to find their question
[09:09] <mpt> well, it's not so much about whether topics are obvious *enough*
[09:09] <mpt> but about whether "Common Questions" would make people faster or slower on average
[09:09] <Burgundavia> here is an idea: have a fast answers section at the top of each section
[09:10] <mdke> mpt: ok. I think slower.
[09:10] <mpt> yeah
[09:12] <mpt> hmm
[09:12] <mpt> Vista has both on the front page
[09:12] <mpt> (but Vista's help viewer is ridiculously large)
[09:13] <mpt> OS X's front page has "What's New", "Discover Your Mac" (what does that mean?), four "Top Customer Issues", and "Index"
[09:14] <mpt> no categories on the front page at all
[09:14] <mpt> weird
[09:14] <mdke> ok, so we can at least beat them
[09:14] <mpt> yes
[09:14] <mpt> but can we have a nice layout?
[09:14] <mdke> hopefully
[09:14] <mdke> what does it take?
[09:14] <mpt> I'm thinking perhaps two columns
[09:15] <mdke> with?
[09:15] <mpt> First column, a nice picture of an Ubuntu system, with the top ~5 questions underneath it
[09:15] <mpt> Second column, the topic categories
[09:16] <mdke> I think the first column is unlikely, myself
[09:16] <Burgundavia> well, I need to crash
[09:17] <mpt> I should draw a picture
[09:17] <mdke> night Burgundavia
[09:17] <mpt> goodnight Burgundavia
[09:19] <mdke> me neither
[09:26] <mdke> soon, I'll maybe rearrange the layout of our repo to reflect the category structure, when it's ready
[09:27] <mdke> the linking between documents is going to be a bit tricky
[09:27] <mdke> but doable.
[09:28] <mdke> (I hope)