[12:14] anyone :)? [12:15] ask in #ubuntu-doc [12:17] okies, thanks === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-11-17.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lophyte [n=dsulliva@ubuntu/member/lophyte] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CypherBIOS [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@66.189.137.246] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === awbassett [n=awbasset@206.135.97.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:07] keescook: you still around? [01:07] LaserJock: yup! [01:07] LaserJock: when's your next superstar session? [01:07] what's up? [01:07] hey keescook [01:07] hiya ajmitch! [01:08] ajmitch: umm, Thursday [01:08] keescook: I was just looking at your sbuild/LVM scripty thingy [01:08] I don't really know much about LVM [01:09] could I set up partitions as normal and leave some free space to use as LVM for this sort of thing? === david_corrales_ [n=david@ip247-10.ct.co.cr] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] [01:09] LVM is great [01:09] you can use loopback files as LVM physical volumes [01:09] LaserJock: absolutely. that's what I did on my laptop for UDS [01:09] I tried LVM'ing my whole machine and since then everything [01:09] has been a little messy === ajmitch uses LVM all over the place [01:10] LaserJock: heh. I use LVM for all my partitions, but it can get a little messy. It's taken me a number of years to really be comfortable with a root lvm partition. [01:11] but if you have a spare drive (or as ajmitch suggests: just a loopback), it's great fun [01:11] <_MMA_> LaserJock: I heard the dailys start to build tomorrow. Is that right? [01:11] the other question I had was how clean is using sbuild this way [01:11] _MMA_: have no idea [01:11] <_MMA_> k [01:12] LaserJock: what do you mean by "clean"? [01:12] well, with pbuilder you get a clean environment each time [01:12] because it just unpacks the tarball again [01:12] LaserJock: ah. yeah, you get a clean environment every time, but without any overhead of unpacking a tarball. [01:12] is it similar with using the LVM snapshot [01:13] right, except to create and delete a snapshot takes <1s [01:13] <_MMA_> LaserJock: Looks like the 30th. I think. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule Just a FYI. [01:14] _MMA_: yeah, that's the first Herd [01:14] _MMA_: thats when the first alpha is released not when the first image will be set up [01:14] but it's more or less the same thing === fowlduck [n=nate@66.189.137.246] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:14] <_MMA_> gnomefreak: Ahh... Ok. :) [01:15] LaserJock: i know in past we had images well before first alpha [01:17] hmm, so maybe tonight I'll wipe my desktop at home [01:17] and try to put fedora and edgy on it with lots of extra space to play with LVM [01:18] I think fedora's installer uses LVM [01:19] LaserJock: sweet. If you use the alternate CD, you can build LVM partitions during install [01:19] yeah, but I'm pretty likely to screw everything up [01:19] last time I tried that I ended up with an unbootable system [01:19] I tend to always have a pair of drives in my desktop. then I install with alternate, making 2 partitions on each drive, both software raid'd, putting /boot on md0 and LVM on md1. :) === fowlduck [n=nate@66.189.137.246] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock is such a newb sometimes [01:20] LaserJock: heh. if you've got a few hours, give it a shot. :) [01:20] otherwise, just leave lots of space left over for LVM. that works just as well [01:20] yeah, I have a 120GB drive [01:21] and I usually only use ~30GB of it [01:21] anybody done LVM with fedora's installer? [01:21] I was thinking maybe it might be easier [01:24] yes, that's why I've always used the alternate CD for real installs on my systems :) [01:24] yeah, I made that mistake once [01:24] had to burn another whole .iso ;-) [01:24] good thing there's only 1 CD === ash211 [n=andrew@user-11210ts.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:39] Hi guys. I'm packaging an application for Ubuntu and I wold like contribute with motu-team, I've packaged already and followed the debian-policy, etc. And at this time I'm here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU [01:40] Who can import my GPGKey for REVU keyring? [01:40] hi CypherBIOS [01:40] Adri2000: hi :) [01:40] try with ajmitch [01:40] Adri2000: tnx :) [01:41] ajmitch: can you help me? [01:42] ajmitch: ok, you're away. I'll send a email for you. === josti [n=josti@e176173129.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:49] anyone know what Ubuntu release used the 2.4 kernel? === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-68-178.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:52] joejaxx: we've never used a 2.4 kernel. [01:53] Warty, the first one (4.10), used 2.6.8.1 [01:53] hmm [01:54] i wonder how ubuntu whould run on a 2.4 kernel [01:54] well it is not like it whould matter [01:54] Adri2000: I've sent a mail to keyring@tiber.tauware.de requesting the key import, are this correct?! [01:54] i do not need xserver [01:54] or any other ram/resource hogging nonsense [01:54] well, you'll have to fight the deps [01:54] CypherBIOS: yes, according to the wiki :) [01:55] we've already ripped out all the modutils deps, which you'd need for 2.4 [01:55] Adri2000: can I do something else for now? [01:55] CypherBIOS: if your package is finished, just wait [01:55] crimsun: :\ [01:55] Adri2000: yep, my package are ready to review ;) [01:56] Adri2000: tnx, I'll still waiting :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === haiko [n=haiko@V145c.v.pppool.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:05] keescook: RE: 73603, Ive already uploaded a tested debdiff to security-review [02:06] crimsun: oh! great! [02:06] I uploaded it before that bug was even filed, heh [02:06] crimsun: oh alright i guess i will just use the 2.6 patches then === PriceChild [n=pricechi@unix0.york.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:07] crimsun: did you do all releases or edgy only? [02:07] only edgy, because that's standard forhow I've done it in the paste [02:07] crimsun: yup, me too. cool. :) [02:07] (I upload one, get pitti to approve it, then continue the backports) [02:08] err, past [02:08] this lag is horrible [02:09] crimsun: so, silly me, where is security-review? :P === theCore [i=alex@gateway/tor/x-609a03f7c1992d97] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/security-review/2006-November/thread.html [02:10] *rofl* that's probably a list I should be on. Oops. [02:12] keescook: you're not on it? oh dear... === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:12] pitti never mentioned it :) I'm on so many others... === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:13] one more won't hurt [02:13] much [02:13] I'm pretty sure it's only used for universe [02:14] too public otherwise [02:18] crimsun: debdiff looks good. I changed the version to 1.3.0-9ubuntu0.1 just to stay consistent. [02:18] oh, crap, right === fowlduck [n=nate@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun punches himself with a Ubuntu version delta [02:19] amazing, even crimsun can make mistakes === joejaxx jumps infront of the delta [02:19] pshht, I'm a mere mortal. I'm full of mistakes =] === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:22] I think proftpd takes longer to run configure than to actually do the compiley bits. :P [02:23] It took about as long to compile here as it took to resolve the dependencie;) [02:23] hehe === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:26] 'lo bdd [02:26] crimsun: thanks for getting that ready; I've got it uploaded. I'll get it published once it's built. :) [02:26] ok, I give up on theis wifi connection [02:26] keescook: thanks [02:26] crimsun: Hi === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-74-8.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Umlungu [n=chatzill@dialup-4.227.254.94.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Umlungu [n=chatzill@dialup-4.227.254.94.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:43] wow i realy got ot get used to these diffrent hours [02:43] ello all [02:43] hiya imbrandon [02:43] heya keescook [02:43] you by chance cant reject a few things for me can you ( from the NEW queue ) [02:43] keescook, ^ [02:43] okay, my brain is failing... how do I create an "Affects Ubuntu Edgy" bug task?? [02:44] imbrandon: I can't sorry, I don't have any queue abilities. :( [02:44] np, i dident think so , but i thought i would try [02:44] umm you ..... lemme get the link [02:44] I've tried both Upstream... and Distribution... and neither actually gets me what I want. :P [02:45] no you have to file it a diffrent way iirc [02:45] keescook: request a backport for it, iirc [02:45] hi all [02:45] I'm trying to create an Edgy task for bug 73603 (so I can close it...) [02:45] Malone bug 73603 in proftpd-dfsg "remote code execution in ProFTPD" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73603 [02:45] hello fernando === imbrandon looks [02:46] Hobbsee: I want edgy-backports? === ademan [n=dan@h-68-164-186-127.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:46] hey imbrandon [02:46] i'm not sure, i would think so. imbrandon seems to know though [02:47] keescook, yea edgy-backports [02:47] heya ajmitch [02:48] imbrandon: ah-ha. okay. thanks! === Umlungu [n=chatzill@dialup-4.227.254.94.Dial1.Denver1.Level3.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:49] imbrandon: that didn't seem to work... [02:49] what are you wanting to do exactly, sorry came in late in the covo [02:49] i just seen sarah say you wanted a backport [02:50] imbrandon: for that bug, I want a bug task that says proftpd (Ubuntu Edgy) === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] ohhh , i think you have to file the bug that way initialy , at this point i think the best thing is just to get a debdiff and put it through the sru/security process [02:51] but for a bug that effects only one distro release i think you have to make it that way from the get go ( yea it sucks ) [02:51] thats why its not used much [02:51] hrm *thinks* [02:52] more malone features === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:52] yea wonderfull malone [02:52] imbrandon: I've already put the security patch through (crimsun made it, I've uploaded it) I just want to have a "closed" edgy task for it, leaving it open for Feisty. :P [02:53] maybe you can do it via email :) [02:53] ahh , afaik thats not possible ( or i dunno how ) without 2 bugs === keescook scratces his head [02:53] wow, mail on the security-review list [02:53] first message for 2 months [02:54] keescook, yea it really needs to be works on, malone really the way its setup only supports a "bug" if its fixed or not, not really if its fixed in one but not in another [02:54] etc [02:54] well it does but it dont work exactly great and not the way you would think ( like in this case ) === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:55] check out bug 47619. it has both (Ubuntu) and (Ubuntu Dapper). That's what I can't figure out how to do. :( [02:55] Malone bug 47619 in nautilus "nautilus sometimes crashes when opening new window" [Unknown,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/47619 [02:55] .... "in one but not another" ... == ..."in one release but not another" .... === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-11-17.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:56] keescook, right but it was filed with the dapper one first and the other was added, noth the reverse [02:56] Fujitsu, ping [02:56] s/noth/not [02:56] imbrandon: aaah. i see [02:56] wich sucks in a case like this [02:58] keescook, at leaste thats how its been explained to me , it all is kinda hazy [02:58] lol [02:59] keescook, !!!!!!!!!!!!! ahhh i found it /i think/ [02:59] one sec [03:00] woot, i did, now look at your bug ( its a mess but look heheh ) [03:00] that button needs relabled badly, because it dosent do what it says [03:00] ( FYI to get that you click on "backport to release" on the left and then choose an older release, then you can mark closed ) [03:01] that's even worse than its previous sequence [03:01] but backport is the wrong word as -backports are filed diffrently [03:01] crimsun, yea [03:01] it used to be under Also affects Distribution [03:02] proftpd-dfsg (Ubuntu Edgy) Fix Released Undecided [03:02] markd for ya [03:02] the rest i left as is [03:02] Fix Committed, please [03:02] ok === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:02] changed [03:02] danke [03:02] yw [03:02] how evil [03:02] imbrandon: sweet! [03:02] yea , we need to poke the LP guys about that, thats really really not intuitive === ajmitch looked at that as well & thought it was for something different [03:03] ajmitch, exactly [03:03] it really should be under effects distro like crimsun said imho [03:04] affects* [03:05] keescook, does this affect dapper ? [03:06] imbrandon: probably, but universe security updates tend to only go into the current stable [03:06] I'm happy to publish stuff that people prepare though. :) [03:06] dapper == 5 year stable hehehe [03:06] ( server ) [03:06] proftpd would fall under server imho hehe [03:07] I'm looking at dapper's source package [03:07] if there is a patch i'm happy to prepare the same debdiff, although crimsun might already have thought of that [03:07] if you want, snag the debdiff crimsun used and see if it applies cleanly, build it and test it, and I'll upload it. :) [03:07] right on [03:07] it doesn't, there are differences [03:07] looks like crimsun is on it === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:07] (I always address Dapper first) [03:07] crimsun: can you help me fix a quick bug? [03:07] jdong, did you see my note on lp [03:07] okay... I'm outta here. thanks everyone! [03:07] imbrandon: which note? [03:08] thanks, keescook! [03:08] bug 73603 [03:08] Malone bug 73603 in proftpd-dfsg "remote code execution in ProFTPD" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73603 [03:08] thanks keescook [03:08] :) === jdong looks [03:08] meanwhile, anyone feel like fixing an xchat-gnome trivial bug for me?] [03:08] 000003c0 2d 64 65 76 20 28 3e 3d 09 32 2e 31 36 2e 30 29 |-dev (>=.2.16.0)| [03:08] libgnome2-dev [03:08] yes, dapper-backports is affected. [03:09] that is not a space after >=, that is a tabstop [03:09] which causes pbuilder to error out [03:09] can someone change that to a space and upload? [03:09] jdong, its in libgnome2-dev ? [03:09] imbrandon: that is correct === imbrandon looks [03:10] that's xchat-gnome, where libgnome2-dev is, on the build-dep line [03:10] crimsun, ahh but shouldent -security over power ( better word? ) -backports [03:10] jdong, what? ok, what source package do i need to grab ? [03:10] imbrandon: not if backports has a newer version.... security version bumps are usually very miniscule... :-/ [03:10] imbrandon: xchat-gnome [03:10] ok === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:10] imbrandon: s/over power/trump/ [03:11] StevenK, yea :) [03:11] Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 5.0.0), gnome-pkg-tools, autotools-dev, cdbs, libglib2.0-dev (>= 2.12), libgtk2.0-dev (>= 2.10), libgnome2-dev (>= 2.16.0), [03:11] what's wrong with xchat-gnome's debian/control.in? [03:11] the space after "libgnome2-dev (>=" is actually a tab, hexdump says :) [03:11] crimsun: there's a tab instead of a space [03:12] jdong: cat -A ? [03:12] StevenK: thanks :) [03:12] libgnome2-dev (>=^I2.16.0), [03:12] I daresay, pbuilder should just cope. [03:13] well, it doesn't [03:13] hrm looking at it its definately a space ...... [03:13] no, it's definitely a tab [03:13] imbrandon: no it's not :) [03:13] *puzzled* [03:13] hrm [03:13] imbrandon: cat -A, or hexdump it [03:13] ok [03:13] (use -T, or -A for great justice) [03:13] that's gotta be the most interesting bug I've encountered :) [03:14] that's arguably a bug in pbuilder, as StevenK says [03:14] lol :) [03:14] debian/control* are fine [03:14] soooo should i "fix" this in xchat-gnome or ? [03:14] crimsun: well I guess a tab should be an acceptable whitespace character [03:14] If dpkg-gencontrol can cope, then pbuilder ought to. [03:14] imbrandon: please fix it in xchat-gnome.... :-/ [03:14] for the sake of consistency [03:15] it's not an xchat-gnome bug, seriously [03:15] you don't see anyone else using tabs instead of space in debian/control... :d [03:15] jdong: Don't make me log into merkel.debian.org and check the Debian archive. [03:15] hahaha [03:15] urr, alright.... should I file this as a pbuilder bug then?!? [03:16] (so I was bored and I replaced all the spaces with tabs in debian/control, and now the package won't build....) [03:16] ok i'll uplaod the "fix" for xchat-gnome , if you promis to file a pbuilder bug in debian BTS [03:16] My opinion is a bug on pbuilder should be filed, and the problem worked around in xchat-gnome. [03:16] jdong, ^^ [03:16] imbrandon: ok, deal :d [03:16] imbrandon: and with proftpd, dapper-backports is affected [03:16] imbrandon: dapper-backports has a backported proftpd from edgy [03:17] jdong, yea crimsun told me, it should still be uploaded to -security imho but thats upto yall [03:17] mmm, ok [03:17] well, if it can be worked out with security team to upload a version that overrides -backports, I'm ok with that [03:17] imbrandon: to dapper-security? [03:17] Lathiat, yes [03:17] thats bogus else it'l upgrades everyones proftpd that dont want backports? === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] Lathiat, e.g that would require the one in dapper proper to be patched and the one in -backports to get rebackported from edgy-security [03:18] oh right [03:18] that makes senes [03:19] i thought you meant put the edgy version in dapper-security [03:19] no :) [03:19] yeah, we could all go for some feisty beryl in breezy-security [03:19] hahaha [03:20] oh wtf, ok jdong this might take a bit longer than i thought [03:21] what happened? === kkubasik [n=kjk38@kjk38-laptop.student.cwru.edu] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:21] one sec, i'm checking on another box if it is my booboo or the package has more issues than just that [03:21] crimsun: woo, [03:23] oh very nice. quodlibet just exploded to demonstrate what it thought of my beryl statement. [03:24] LOL [03:24] ok jdong , uploaded ( it was my booboo ) [03:24] xchat-gnome (1:0.15-0ubuntu2) feisty; urgency=low [03:24] * fixed a tab vs whitespace typo in debian/control to please pbuilder [03:25] imbrandon: many thanks [03:25] np, now you have to file the pbuilder bug in Debian BTS ( lots o luck :P ) [03:25] skimming the bugs against it on BTS make me think it's full o' blackmagick [03:26] heh [03:26] imbrandon: just did... I think at least [03:26] yea their BTS is slowish, it takes a while to showup when you send a mail [03:27] ok [03:27] well at the same time I guess I'll play with pbuilder-satisfydepends and see if I can come up with a fix.... [03:27] or maybe I should finish this project with a thursday deadline... [03:27] btw does anyone know if we're gonna import iceweazle to universe from debian ? [03:28] jdong, would be super cool once you get a debian BTS # you file a LP bug with the upstream bug voodoo stuff [03:28] imbrandon: will do :) === datten_ [n=datten@xdsl-81-173-153-142.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:29] so we know too :) [03:29] oh crap! forgot to enable extra swap [03:29] whew, got it [03:29] stupid tmpfs :) [03:29] imbrandon: meaning 'iceweasel'? I'd be very, very sad if so. [03:30] yea thats what i ment, and i just mean for uni , not main [03:30] I mean, I just created an mplayerplug-in delta just to s/iceweasel/firefox/ [03:30] yea , i think it would be alot of harm [03:30] imho [03:30] but i was curious [03:31] ( kinda trying to catch up since this week with the new job trying to adjust to my hours, i'm not as "filled in" heheh ) [03:32] gah i need to find my win98 cd to make a vm, brb === minghua wonders what will happen if he gets both firefox and iceweasel installed (assuming iceweasel gets imported to universe) [03:35] you get an iceweasel and a firefox [03:35] that's assuming no file conflicts [03:36] it makes foo/debian/*.links lots of fun! === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:36] otherwise I get an iceweasel and half a firefox or something [03:37] and I can imagine the agony of plugin maintainers (a.k.a. crimsun :-) === mikhail^ [n=dean@124.106.243.187] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:38] hrm can i make an iso ( useable ) "dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/blah/some.iso" ? [03:38] or is there a batter way [03:38] better* === jaldhar_ is now known as jaldhar [03:40] imbrandon: That's simple, and should work fine [03:40] kk [03:40] thanks === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:40] btw, can xchat 2.6.8 be synced from debian sid? [03:41] closes bug 57951 [03:41] Malone bug 57951 in xchat "xchat crashes frequently on quit" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/57951 [03:41] !info xchat feisty [03:41] xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB [03:41] jdong: it needs to be merged, most likely [03:41] Hobbsee: mmm, I see [03:41] http://merges.ubuntu.com/x/xchat/REPORT [03:42] bleh === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:54] imbrandon, seen Fujitsu around? he's been missing for a few days [03:55] eh? He last spoke about 16 hours ago. [03:58] oh, i just keep missing him then [03:58] meh === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mwolson [i=mwolson@jpi-wlafyte-212-116.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar is now known as jaldhar === Simon80 [n=Simon80@bas6-toronto63-1128541995.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Simon80_ [n=Simon80@bas6-toronto63-1128541995.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:18] imbrandon: waah, how do I link a debbug in launchpad [04:18] it doesn't seem to accept http://bugs.debian.org/400848 [04:18] as an upstream tracker URL [04:18] just enter the bug number [04:18] oh [04:19] Burgundavia: it still hates me [04:19] LP doesn't know what kind of bug tracker.... [04:19] bug #? [04:19] debian bug 400848 [04:19] Debian bug 400848 in pbuilder "pbuilder-satisfydepends chokes on tab characters" [Unknown,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/400848 [04:19] tell it which type of bug tracker [04:20] no, LP bug number [04:20] oh bug 73688 [04:20] Malone bug 73688 in pbuilder "pbuilder-satisfydepends can't cope with tab characters" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73688 [04:21] maybe I'm just retarded and am missing an obvious button to do this [04:21] see the "also affects"? [04:21] choose distro task === Simon80_ [n=Simon80@bas6-toronto63-1128541995.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:21] hmm [04:21] Burgundavia: that's what I did [04:22] and it doesn't take any of the obvious formats I could think of [04:22] then add no bug url [04:22] then click on it and enter in the bug number [04:22] oh I can do that? [04:22] yes, that is a bug in LP [04:22] pleae file it === Simon80_ [n=Simon80@bas6-toronto63-1128541995.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:23] Burgundavia: ok, will do === Simon80_ [n=Simon80@bas6-toronto63-1128541995.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Simon80_ is now known as Simon80 [04:26] foled; bug 73689 [04:26] Malone bug 73689 in launchpad "Malone doesn't take Debian bug tracker URL's" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73689 === Simon80 [n=Simon80@bas6-toronto63-1128541995.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ademan [n=dan@h-68-164-186-127.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Simon80_ [n=Simon80@bas6-toronto63-1128541995.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Simon80 [n=Simon80@bas6-toronto63-1128541995.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.149.11] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia goes to drown compiz in bug reports === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:48] ok, compiz sucks [04:49] news at 11 [04:49] what does it suck with this time? [04:50] I am attempting to drown compiz in bugs, to prevent it from being included by default [04:50] care to join me? [04:50] you'd prefer beryl then?> [04:50] no, I will do the same with beryl, if and when it gets packaged [04:51] I am basically going to dunc-bank AcceleratedX and CompositeByDefault [04:55] 5 bugs reported alraedy [04:55] upstream or on launchpad? [04:56] workspaces is obvious - it's an upstream feature [04:56] lost window borders is probably your xorg configuration [04:57] LP [04:57] I am filing bugs if it works in Metacity and doesn't in compiz [04:57] very simple [04:57] no effects turned on, merely compiz instead of metacity [04:57] no matter if the bugreports are useful & have enough information or not [04:57] don't much care === ajmitch goes to reject some [04:58] hi lastnode [04:58] sigh [04:58] hi LaserJock [04:58] hi ajmitch [04:58] hi Burgundavia [04:58] and good luck ;-) [04:58] ajmitch: I am looking at quite simply. If you want to swap out compiz for metacity, it has better work [04:58] with? [04:58] sorry, yes [04:59] Burgundavia: I'm looking at it from a POV of having 20K open bugs already [04:59] I realize that [04:59] if you don't want to provide the info, I'll reject [04:59] I will happily provide the info [05:00] is the idea really to replace metacity with beryl/compiz as the default WM? [05:00] LaserJock: that is what has been discussed [05:00] undecided as yet === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:00] I'm happy enough with metacity [05:00] LaserJock: yes, provided compiz or beryl are good enough [05:00] I just thought it was an add-on bling layer [05:01] hence my project of drowning compiz in bug reports [05:01] LaserJock: spec is named composite-by-default [05:01] and you cannot have composite without a compositing wm [05:01] Burgundavia, uh? drowning compiz in bug report???? [05:02] I thought metacity could do compositing [05:02] badly [05:02] theCore: if compiz is not technically good enough, then it will not be used by default [05:02] what about kwin? [05:02] they've pretty much given up on metacity as compositing manager [05:02]