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=== kgoetz gears up for battle against ltspfs
highvoltagekgoetz: heh! I've been battling with it too :)07:43
highvoltage(although haven't had much time for it this week)07:43
highvoltagethe games will begin again this afternoon :)07:43
kgoetz*grin*07:45
kgoetzi'v got 2 hours :|07:46
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kgoetzhighvoltage: do you know of any instructiouns?07:50
=== kgoetz wondres if ltspfs could be used for hdds or just media
RichEd-1greetz08:05
kgoetzgday08:05
kgoetzhighvoltage: do you need 'ltspfsd' and 'fuse' installed to do ltspfs? or just one?08:06
kgoetzRichEd: how are you today?08:06
RichEdWell ... thanks for asking Karl ... and yourself ?08:07
kgoetzvery hot and tired, otherwise ok thankyou08:08
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kgoetzooh, and just discovered i need 'ltspfsd' installed in my chroot... i think :)08:09
RichEdhot & tired ... you in the southern hemisphere then ? or a room with bad ventilation :)08:11
kgoetz*grin* both08:12
kgoetzbrb. rebooting terminal... hopefully with local storage08:15
kgoetzaww... i messed up somehow :(08:21
kgoetzRichEd: how long will you be online for/around?08:25
RichEdmost of today ... just started08:26
kgoetzgoodoh.08:27
kgoetzi'll probalbly be able to catch you then08:27
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kgoetzOMG LTSP SOUND :O:O08:38
kgoetzsorry about that... had to let it out :)08:38
kgoetzgrrr. nearly there!. the client is creating the devices for my USB drive, but not making /tmp/drives08:42
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kgoetzogra: should i ping you with dapper ltsp questions, or #ltsp? or both?09:09
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stgrabermorning10:51
RichEdhi stgraber10:51
stgraberHow was Poland ?10:52
cbx33hey RichEd10:52
RichEdstgraber: work = good ... country = different ... can feel & see the impact of ww2 and communism ... food = unusual :)10:53
RichEdcbx33: hey hey hey10:53
highvoltagekgoetz: you need both, sorry, been away10:55
highvoltagekgoetz: how is your system configured? on a default new edubuntu installation it should work out of the box.10:55
cbx33brb10:59
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highvoltageRichEd: I like your 'left' message :)12:00
RichEdhighvoltage :) willvdl asked me "don't the arrows go the wrong way" ... and I told him it was intended to cause a mental disconnect12:01
highvoltageheh12:02
RichEdas in "left stage right"12:02
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eilker!gpg12:03
ubotugpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto12:03
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eilker!grub12:19
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:19
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cbx33umm....do i remember correctly that rar can't be opened on linux?12:59
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gnomefreakcbx33: it can there is a package in repos for rar packages01:45
gnomefreak!rar01:45
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free01:45
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RichEdw00t  ogra02:01
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highvoltageogra: you mean, the first edubuntu fat client ;)02:08
highvoltageogra: great :)02:08
ograyeah ... my workstation plugin works ...02:08
ogra(i cheated a bit and created a user, ldap integration must happen befre i can finish fat-clients)02:09
highvoltagewow, great.02:09
highvoltageRichEd: please ping me when you're back02:09
ograand i need to think about ip forwarding ...02:09
Kamping_Kaiserhighvoltage, i have ubuntu+ltsp, rather then edubuntu02:09
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highvoltageKamping_Kaiser: ogra is talking about something else, booting a full workstation, but over the network :)02:10
Kamping_Kaiserhighvoltage, i'm talking about what i spoke to you about last, as kgoetz ;)02:10
highvoltageKamping_Kaiser: aaaah!02:10
highvoltageogra: performance is nice, hey?02:10
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Kamping_Kaiserfat client would rock02:11
highvoltageogra: I like how nicely sound and usb devices just work02:11
highvoltageogra: and it responds better when you unplug the network cable and plug it back in too02:11
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ograKamping_Kaiser, fat-client is running here ... ltsp-build-client has already the new plugin locally ... i'll add it to the package with the next upload02:12
Kamping_Kaiserogra, sounds awsome. wish it was in an LTS version *grin*02:12
ograwell, you can just copy over the plugin, should work ...02:13
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ograbut you will need to set up the ldap integration manually02:13
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RichEdping highvoltage03:17
highvoltagehey RichEd03:26
RichEdhighvoltage: what's up ?03:26
highvoltagemaking food at the moment so my concentration is a bit divided :)03:26
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highvoltageRichEd: I'm a bit bothered by my increasing inactivity in Edubuntu03:27
highvoltageRichEd: It's really not that I don't want to help, it's just that each time I think "there, my workload will be coming down now" it actually goes up03:27
highvoltageI'm not sure how other people are feeling about it, and how this impacts my EC status.03:28
RichEdhighvoltage: ^^ that's a usual syndrome of taking on more responsibility ...03:28
RichEdI have not heard one single bad comment ... so rest assured.03:28
highvoltageRichEd: ok. but I'd like you and others to know that I'm still committed to Edubuntu03:28
RichEdI see that many of you guys (you, jerome, etc.) as being the old blood, the pioneers who laid the groundwork ...03:29
RichEdI also see that moving on is part of your personal career focus and growth ...03:29
highvoltageyep.03:29
highvoltageit's just that I don't want to completely 'move on' :)03:29
RichEdIt's up to me to recruit more new blood, and to use you for your knowledge, and not your sweat.03:30
highvoltagenext week we're releasing our first public release of tuxlab. it's very buggy but also nice.03:30
highvoltageI hope to get some more volunteers and get tuxlab fixed up, then get all our cool stuff into edubuntu.03:30
RichEdi.e. I see you as being a perfect mentor (how to do, what to do) being able to guide the new energy (the actual to do bit)03:30
highvoltageI want to have a healthy upstream/downstream relationship, which is why I'd like to stay involved with Ubuntu as far as my capacity allows.03:31
highvoltageRichEd: that's a big compliment :)03:31
highvoltageRichEd: thank you03:31
RichEdSo, if we can call on you for less interactions, but filtered, then your impact can be as big, but more from a conductor, rather than a player.03:31
highvoltageah, I see.03:31
highvoltagealmost like with ogra and his clones03:32
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RichEdThe way I see it, and as I have been saying to many people, we should be getting a wave of new people intersted in helping, but with more of a "keen end user capability" rather than a linux mechanic bent.03:32
highvoltageabsolutely.03:33
highvoltagealthough, I'd like to think that I'm very end user orientated too :)03:33
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RichEdIf we can use you guys as our upstream, you can help us by helping the lesser skilled, but higher numbers downstream.03:33
RichEdI said "capability" = skill level ... not ability to help / empathise / understand :)03:34
highvoltageah ok03:35
Dheeraj_kelo every body :)03:35
Dheeraj_kwats up?03:35
highvoltagethat's great. I like this kind of discussion.03:35
highvoltageRichEd: I'll ping you more often so that we can keep the discussion open03:35
Dheeraj_ki am facing little bit  problem with ed-ubuntu03:36
highvoltageRichEd: I really believe there's lots of space where the projects can benefit from each other03:36
highvoltagehi Dheeraj_k03:36
Dheeraj_khi voltage! r u fully charged?03:36
Dheeraj_kok here is the problem03:37
highvoltageDheeraj_k: :)03:37
Dheeraj_ktoday i upgraded my windows from xp to mce03:37
highvoltagemce?03:37
Dheeraj_kbut than i lost ubuntu  :(03:37
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highvoltageDheeraj_k: do you have an alternate install cd?03:38
Dheeraj_know my pc is booting in windows03:38
highvoltageDheeraj_k: it has a rescue mode where you can simply re-install grub03:38
Dheeraj_kmedia center edition03:38
highvoltageDheeraj_k: windows is quite nasty like that, it overwites your master boot record on installation without asking :/03:38
Dheeraj_kb4 upgrading to mce i took the backup of all my ubuntu file03:39
Dheeraj_kand also /var/apt/archive03:39
Dheeraj_know i have installed ed-ubuntu03:39
Dheeraj_know how can i install packages from03:39
Dheeraj_kvar/cache/apt/archives03:40
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Dheeraj_kmy net speed is not good so i can't download each and every package from net03:40
Dheeraj_kthats why i took the backup of apt file which i downloaded from net03:41
highvoltageDheeraj_k: you can add them to a local archive and then install from it03:42
highvoltageedubuntugirl: google clug wiki installing deb without compromising dependencies03:43
edubuntugirlhighvoltage: Google found 'CLUG Wiki - How do I install a .deb file I downloaded without ...', at http://wiki.clug.org.za/wiki/How_do_I_install_a_.deb_file_I_downloaded_without_compromising_dependencies%3F03:43
highvoltageDheeraj_k: that guide may give you some good insight on how to do it03:43
RichEdhighvoltage: 100% ^^^03:44
highvoltage:)03:44
Dheeraj_kthanx mate :)03:44
Dheeraj_kbtw wat is the use of `apt-get -f install ?03:45
Dheeraj_kdoes it install the broken packages?03:46
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Dheeraj_k!essentail03:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about essentail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:48
Dheeraj_k!gcc03:49
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)03:49
cbx33are you looking for03:49
cbx33build_essential03:49
cbx33!build_essential03:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about build_essential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:50
cbx33bah03:50
Dheeraj_kyeah crapy bot03:52
highvoltageDheeraj_k: apt-get -f install removes or adds packages to keep your system sane03:53
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Dheeraj_k!ls04:05
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands04:05
Dheeraj_k!who04:05
ubotuPlease don't ask questions like "Who knows about ....".  Just ask the question you would ask them.  If someone can help, they'll answer.04:05
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sbalneav_Morning all04:08
stgraberhi04:09
Dheeraj_ksbalneav: good morning :)04:09
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Dheeraj_k!hello  |  stgraber04:10
ubotuhello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB04:10
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highvoltageheya dbbedian04:56
Dheeraj_khie05:01
Dheeraj_kdoes any body know how to mount iso image?05:03
jbrefortmount -o loop ...05:05
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Dheeraj_kfile is in ngr format05:05
Dheeraj_kimage created using nero05:05
jbrefortnever did that, don't know05:06
stgraberyou need to convert it to the iso format first05:13
stgraberthere is a software to do that, but I can't remember the name05:13
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highvoltageedubuntugirl: karmaladder06:08
edubuntugirlhighvoltage: excuse me?06:08
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cberloHi folks.  Got a quick (I hope) question:  does flash work on edgy, through a thin client?  Haven't tweaked anything yet, but when I visit a site that has flash (like youtube.com) from a thin client, it crashes the browser.  Visiting directly on the server works fine.06:25
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highvoltageedubuntugirl: goodnight08:59
edubuntugirlgoodnight, highvoltage. I'll keep an eye out for the MS spies while you sleep.08:59
highvoltagethanks!08:59
Burgworksb09:13
Burgworkhmm, no scott09:13
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cbx33HI ALL09:35
cbx33whoops capitols slipped out09:36
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