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=== kgoetz gears up for battle against ltspfs
[07:43] <highvoltage> kgoetz: heh! I've been battling with it too :)
[07:43] <highvoltage> (although haven't had much time for it this week)
[07:43] <highvoltage> the games will begin again this afternoon :)
[07:45] <kgoetz> *grin*
[07:46] <kgoetz> i'v got 2 hours :|
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[07:50] <kgoetz> highvoltage: do you know of any instructiouns?
=== kgoetz wondres if ltspfs could be used for hdds or just media
[08:05] <RichEd-1> greetz
[08:05] <kgoetz> gday
[08:06] <kgoetz> highvoltage: do you need 'ltspfsd' and 'fuse' installed to do ltspfs? or just one?
[08:06] <kgoetz> RichEd: how are you today?
[08:07] <RichEd> Well ... thanks for asking Karl ... and yourself ?
[08:08] <kgoetz> very hot and tired, otherwise ok thankyou
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[08:09] <kgoetz> ooh, and just discovered i need 'ltspfsd' installed in my chroot... i think :)
[08:11] <RichEd> hot & tired ... you in the southern hemisphere then ? or a room with bad ventilation :)
[08:12] <kgoetz> *grin* both
[08:15] <kgoetz> brb. rebooting terminal... hopefully with local storage
[08:21] <kgoetz> aww... i messed up somehow :(
[08:25] <kgoetz> RichEd: how long will you be online for/around?
[08:26] <RichEd> most of today ... just started
[08:27] <kgoetz> goodoh.
[08:27] <kgoetz> i'll probalbly be able to catch you then
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[08:38] <kgoetz> OMG LTSP SOUND :O:O
[08:38] <kgoetz> sorry about that... had to let it out :)
[08:42] <kgoetz> grrr. nearly there!. the client is creating the devices for my USB drive, but not making /tmp/drives
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[09:09] <kgoetz> ogra: should i ping you with dapper ltsp questions, or #ltsp? or both?
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[10:51] <stgraber> morning
[10:51] <RichEd> hi stgraber
[10:52] <stgraber> How was Poland ?
[10:52] <cbx33> hey RichEd
[10:53] <RichEd> stgraber: work = good ... country = different ... can feel & see the impact of ww2 and communism ... food = unusual :)
[10:53] <RichEd> cbx33: hey hey hey
[10:55] <highvoltage> kgoetz: you need both, sorry, been away
[10:55] <highvoltage> kgoetz: how is your system configured? on a default new edubuntu installation it should work out of the box.
[10:59] <cbx33> brb
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[12:00] <highvoltage> RichEd: I like your 'left' message :)
[12:01] <RichEd> highvoltage :) willvdl asked me "don't the arrows go the wrong way" ... and I told him it was intended to cause a mental disconnect
[12:02] <highvoltage> heh
[12:02] <RichEd> as in "left stage right"
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[12:03] <eilker> !gpg
[12:03] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
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[12:19] <eilker> !grub
[12:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
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[12:59] <cbx33> umm....do i remember correctly that rar can't be opened on linux?
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[01:45] <gnomefreak> cbx33: it can there is a package in repos for rar packages
[01:45] <gnomefreak> !rar
[01:45] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
=== ogra has the first fat-client running :D
[02:01] <RichEd> w00t  ogra
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[02:08] <highvoltage> ogra: you mean, the first edubuntu fat client ;)
[02:08] <highvoltage> ogra: great :)
[02:08] <ogra> yeah ... my workstation plugin works ...
[02:09] <ogra> (i cheated a bit and created a user, ldap integration must happen befre i can finish fat-clients)
[02:09] <highvoltage> wow, great.
[02:09] <highvoltage> RichEd: please ping me when you're back
[02:09] <ogra> and i need to think about ip forwarding ...
[02:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> highvoltage, i have ubuntu+ltsp, rather then edubuntu
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[02:10] <highvoltage> Kamping_Kaiser: ogra is talking about something else, booting a full workstation, but over the network :)
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> highvoltage, i'm talking about what i spoke to you about last, as kgoetz ;)
[02:10] <highvoltage> Kamping_Kaiser: aaaah!
[02:10] <highvoltage> ogra: performance is nice, hey?
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[02:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> fat client would rock
[02:11] <highvoltage> ogra: I like how nicely sound and usb devices just work
[02:11] <highvoltage> ogra: and it responds better when you unplug the network cable and plug it back in too
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[02:12] <ogra> Kamping_Kaiser, fat-client is running here ... ltsp-build-client has already the new plugin locally ... i'll add it to the package with the next upload
[02:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> ogra, sounds awsome. wish it was in an LTS version *grin*
[02:13] <ogra> well, you can just copy over the plugin, should work ...
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[02:13] <ogra> but you will need to set up the ldap integration manually
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[03:17] <RichEd> ping highvoltage
[03:26] <highvoltage> hey RichEd
[03:26] <RichEd> highvoltage: what's up ?
[03:26] <highvoltage> making food at the moment so my concentration is a bit divided :)
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[03:27] <highvoltage> RichEd: I'm a bit bothered by my increasing inactivity in Edubuntu
[03:27] <highvoltage> RichEd: It's really not that I don't want to help, it's just that each time I think "there, my workload will be coming down now" it actually goes up
[03:28] <highvoltage> I'm not sure how other people are feeling about it, and how this impacts my EC status.
[03:28] <RichEd> highvoltage: ^^ that's a usual syndrome of taking on more responsibility ...
[03:28] <RichEd> I have not heard one single bad comment ... so rest assured.
[03:28] <highvoltage> RichEd: ok. but I'd like you and others to know that I'm still committed to Edubuntu
[03:29] <RichEd> I see that many of you guys (you, jerome, etc.) as being the old blood, the pioneers who laid the groundwork ...
[03:29] <RichEd> I also see that moving on is part of your personal career focus and growth ...
[03:29] <highvoltage> yep.
[03:29] <highvoltage> it's just that I don't want to completely 'move on' :)
[03:30] <RichEd> It's up to me to recruit more new blood, and to use you for your knowledge, and not your sweat.
[03:30] <highvoltage> next week we're releasing our first public release of tuxlab. it's very buggy but also nice.
[03:30] <highvoltage> I hope to get some more volunteers and get tuxlab fixed up, then get all our cool stuff into edubuntu.
[03:30] <RichEd> i.e. I see you as being a perfect mentor (how to do, what to do) being able to guide the new energy (the actual to do bit)
[03:31] <highvoltage> I want to have a healthy upstream/downstream relationship, which is why I'd like to stay involved with Ubuntu as far as my capacity allows.
[03:31] <highvoltage> RichEd: that's a big compliment :)
[03:31] <highvoltage> RichEd: thank you
[03:31] <RichEd> So, if we can call on you for less interactions, but filtered, then your impact can be as big, but more from a conductor, rather than a player.
[03:31] <highvoltage> ah, I see.
[03:32] <highvoltage> almost like with ogra and his clones
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[03:32] <RichEd> The way I see it, and as I have been saying to many people, we should be getting a wave of new people intersted in helping, but with more of a "keen end user capability" rather than a linux mechanic bent.
[03:33] <highvoltage> absolutely.
[03:33] <highvoltage> although, I'd like to think that I'm very end user orientated too :)
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[03:33] <RichEd> If we can use you guys as our upstream, you can help us by helping the lesser skilled, but higher numbers downstream.
[03:34] <RichEd> I said "capability" = skill level ... not ability to help / empathise / understand :)
[03:35] <highvoltage> ah ok
[03:35] <Dheeraj_k> elo every body :)
[03:35] <Dheeraj_k> wats up?
[03:35] <highvoltage> that's great. I like this kind of discussion.
[03:35] <highvoltage> RichEd: I'll ping you more often so that we can keep the discussion open
[03:36] <Dheeraj_k> i am facing little bit  problem with ed-ubuntu
[03:36] <highvoltage> RichEd: I really believe there's lots of space where the projects can benefit from each other
[03:36] <highvoltage> hi Dheeraj_k
[03:36] <Dheeraj_k> hi voltage! r u fully charged?
[03:37] <Dheeraj_k> ok here is the problem
[03:37] <highvoltage> Dheeraj_k: :)
[03:37] <Dheeraj_k> today i upgraded my windows from xp to mce
[03:37] <highvoltage> mce?
[03:37] <Dheeraj_k> but than i lost ubuntu  :(
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[03:38] <highvoltage> Dheeraj_k: do you have an alternate install cd?
[03:38] <Dheeraj_k> now my pc is booting in windows
[03:38] <highvoltage> Dheeraj_k: it has a rescue mode where you can simply re-install grub
[03:38] <Dheeraj_k> media center edition
[03:38] <highvoltage> Dheeraj_k: windows is quite nasty like that, it overwites your master boot record on installation without asking :/
[03:39] <Dheeraj_k> b4 upgrading to mce i took the backup of all my ubuntu file
[03:39] <Dheeraj_k> and also /var/apt/archive
[03:39] <Dheeraj_k> now i have installed ed-ubuntu
[03:39] <Dheeraj_k> now how can i install packages from
[03:40] <Dheeraj_k> var/cache/apt/archives
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[03:40] <Dheeraj_k> my net speed is not good so i can't download each and every package from net
[03:41] <Dheeraj_k> thats why i took the backup of apt file which i downloaded from net
[03:42] <highvoltage> Dheeraj_k: you can add them to a local archive and then install from it
[03:43] <highvoltage> edubuntugirl: google clug wiki installing deb without compromising dependencies
[03:43] <edubuntugirl> highvoltage: Google found 'CLUG Wiki - How do I install a .deb file I downloaded without ...', at http://wiki.clug.org.za/wiki/How_do_I_install_a_.deb_file_I_downloaded_without_compromising_dependencies%3F
[03:43] <highvoltage> Dheeraj_k: that guide may give you some good insight on how to do it
[03:44] <RichEd> highvoltage: 100% ^^^
[03:44] <highvoltage> :)
[03:44] <Dheeraj_k> thanx mate :)
[03:45] <Dheeraj_k> btw wat is the use of `apt-get -f install ?
[03:46] <Dheeraj_k> does it install the broken packages?
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[03:48] <Dheeraj_k> !essentail
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about essentail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <Dheeraj_k> !gcc
[03:49] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:49] <cbx33> are you looking for
[03:49] <cbx33> build_essential
[03:50] <cbx33> !build_essential
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about build_essential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <cbx33> bah
[03:52] <Dheeraj_k> yeah crapy bot
[03:53] <highvoltage> Dheeraj_k: apt-get -f install removes or adds packages to keep your system sane
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[04:05] <Dheeraj_k> !ls
[04:05] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:05] <Dheeraj_k> !who
[04:05] <ubotu> Please don't ask questions like "Who knows about ....".  Just ask the question you would ask them.  If someone can help, they'll answer.
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[04:08] <sbalneav_> Morning all
[04:09] <stgraber> hi
[04:09] <Dheeraj_k> sbalneav: good morning :)
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[04:10] <Dheeraj_k> !hello  |  stgraber
[04:10] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
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[04:43] <bddebian> Heya
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[04:56] <highvoltage> heya dbbedian
[05:01] <Dheeraj_k> hie
[05:03] <Dheeraj_k> does any body know how to mount iso image?
[05:05] <jbrefort> mount -o loop ...
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[05:05] <Dheeraj_k> file is in ngr format
[05:05] <Dheeraj_k> image created using nero
[05:06] <jbrefort> never did that, don't know
[05:13] <stgraber> you need to convert it to the iso format first
[05:13] <stgraber> there is a software to do that, but I can't remember the name
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[06:08] <highvoltage> edubuntugirl: karmaladder
[06:08] <edubuntugirl> highvoltage: excuse me?
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[06:25] <cberlo> Hi folks.  Got a quick (I hope) question:  does flash work on edgy, through a thin client?  Haven't tweaked anything yet, but when I visit a site that has flash (like youtube.com) from a thin client, it crashes the browser.  Visiting directly on the server works fine.
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[08:59] <highvoltage> edubuntugirl: goodnight
[08:59] <edubuntugirl> goodnight, highvoltage. I'll keep an eye out for the MS spies while you sleep.
[08:59] <highvoltage> thanks!
[09:13] <Burgwork> sb
[09:13] <Burgwork> hmm, no scott
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[09:35] <cbx33> HI ALL
[09:36] <cbx33> whoops capitols slipped out
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