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ubuntmc__: I see and there is no way around. So by installing this package I could breake the system. To bad.12:16
mc__ubunt: no,not really the system12:17
mc__ubunt: ust the package could fail12:17
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ubuntmc__: and this could be fixed by dpkg --purge I guess12:18
mc__ubunt: exactly12:18
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ubuntmc__: did you ever test another Debian like system?12:18
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mc__ubunt: of course,i used pure debian a long time12:19
mc__ubunt: and i still use debian stable as my server12:19
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MidMarksomeone uses mysql graphical admin?12:22
MidMarkit's totally buggy12:22
mc__MidMark: learn sql12:23
mc__MidMark: or try phpMyAdmin12:23
mc__MidMark: it's used to be quite stable12:24
MidMarkdownloading...12:24
MidMarkthanx12:24
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MidMarkthe mysqladmin crashed 5 times and freezed twice12:24
MidMarkunusable12:25
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ubunsorry I did something wrong. I was ubunt before12:25
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stanijoin #ubuntu-motu12:27
stanijoin #motu-ubuntu12:27
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cloakableDoes anyone know how to enable zeroconf in the firewall?12:27
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nickv111Grr. What is the module I need to load to recognize an ATI SB card?12:29
nickv111It's in my laptop12:29
cloakable!mdns12:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mdns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:29
cloakable!avahi12:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about avahi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:30
LjL!fishing12:30
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)12:30
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LjL!bot12:30
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:30
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cloakable!LiL12:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about LiL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:30
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cloakable!LjL12:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about LjL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:30
LjLcloakable, i'm not kidding - you're just not supposed to play around with the bots. if you're searching for a factoid, look at the usage info above, and use a private query with the bot12:31
cloakableLjL: Fair enough.12:32
poningru!kernel12:33
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild12:33
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animimotushi12:39
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remyhi everyone12:39
animimotusI want make some caracter who are not on my keyboard, what's the name of the application I must have ?12:39
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humboltin software sources you can choose "proposed updates". what is that for? I know what security updates and backports are, but what is "proposed updates" meant for?12:46
MalicianI just managed to get kubuntu installed, and it seems quite bare-bones - there're no icons on the desktop, links to hard drives or devices, etc12:46
Maliciandid I mess up somehow?12:47
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SUNGAMMalician, do you have the taskbar and the menu?12:48
Malicianyeah..12:48
SUNGAMthink that's pretty much it :)12:48
SUNGAMopen Konqueror to see your folders12:48
Malicianahhh, I see - you can get to that stuff off the menu12:49
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SUNGAMMalician,  yup. Think you can drag and drop stuff onto the desktop if you want, too12:49
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Malicianhuh, the dragging doesn't seem to be working12:51
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Telroth_Plushie|Malician,12:52
otaku-sanDoes anyone know where konquerors style sheet is?  I'm trying to put a background I made on it....but it isn't working12:52
afm\colossusMalician: navigate to media:/ in konqueror12:52
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Telroth_Plushie|do you have an icon on your taskbar that pops up "System menu" when you hover your cursor over it?12:52
otaku-sanand I'm hoping that looking at konquerors style sheet may give me a clue12:52
Malicianyeah, I get it - I can drag out of konqueror12:53
Telroth_Plushie|Malician,12:53
Telroth_Plushie|there's also a taskbar item that has a menu that has the equivilents of "my documents", "my computer", and "my network places" in it12:54
Telroth_Plushie|i use that because it uses up less space on my desktop12:54
Telroth_Plushie|but still provides quick access12:54
Maliciani'm trying to figure how to drag it onto the desktop12:54
SUNGAMTelroth_Plushie|: thanks for the help last night, btw. Never figured out what was wrong, but once I'd created a new user I could log back in with the the original one :)12:55
Maliciandoes kubuntu automatically recognize both processor cores?12:55
wildchildis there any utillity to show what proccesor I have, graphic card, mother board, like aida32 for windows12:56
SUNGAMMalician: are you on 6.10 or 6.06?12:56
Malician6.19012:56
Malician*6.1012:56
Telroth_Plushie|Malician,12:56
SUNGAMMalician: then it should. At least it did for me (dual core intel)12:56
Telroth_Plushie|right click -> new -> link to url12:56
Telroth_Plushie|filename = "My Computer", url = "file:///media"12:57
Telroth_Plushie|click ok12:57
Telroth_Plushie|right click on the new icon on the desktop, select properties12:57
Telroth_Plushie|click on the icon in the upper left hand corner12:57
Telroth_Plushie|choose the icon you like12:58
Malicianhuh, that's funny - evidentally my hard drive isn't in the media folder12:58
Telroth_Plushie|you sure?12:58
Telroth_Plushie|what's in /media ?12:58
Maliciancdrom0 and sata12:58
Malicianwhich is another hard drive that i mounted12:58
Maliciannot the one i'm running on12:58
Telroth_Plushie|oh12:58
Telroth_Plushie|the harddrive you're running on is mounted at /12:58
SUNGAMMalician: the one you're running on is most likely root12:58
SUNGAMwhat he said :)12:59
Telroth_Plushie|what is the equivilent of the "C:\" drive is always located at /12:59
Telroth_Plushie|(with very, very rare exceptions)12:59
MalicianI upgraded my motherboard12:59
Malicianand it effectively killed both my win XP and my SuSE installations12:59
Malicianand I figured that was a good time to move to ubuntu01:00
SUNGAM:)01:00
Telroth_Plushie|welcome to kubuntu then :P01:00
Maliciani dunno much about ubuntu, but in my experience the big distros have the most developers, and if i ever want to do something all the guides are for ubuntu01:00
Malicianxp01:00
Telroth_Plushie|yup01:00
Telroth_Plushie|they are also the only distro i've used so far that has java prepackaged01:01
Maliciani dislike the lack of apt01:01
Malicianat least, i can't find it01:01
Telroth_Plushie|ubuntu has apt01:01
Telroth_Plushie|i use it all the time01:01
Malicianbash: apt: command not found01:01
SUNGAMMalician: ubuntuguide.org and ubuntuforums.org are invaluable :)01:01
Telroth_Plushie|"sudo apt-get install myWonderfulProgram"01:01
Telroth_Plushie|aptitude is also installed by default iirc01:01
MalicianAHHHHHH01:01
SUNGAMor adept in KDE01:01
Malicianyou have to use apt-get01:01
Telroth_Plushie|ubuntu is based off of debian01:02
Telroth_Plushie|debian uses apt01:02
Malicianyeah01:02
Telroth_Plushie|apt-get for packages01:02
Telroth_Plushie|apt-source for sources that get built01:02
Maliciani ran a super suse distro that came with apt, 700 meg install cd01:02
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tochi01:02
Telroth_Plushie|apt-cache for browsing the package lists01:02
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tocis kubuntu a live distro?01:02
Maliciandoes debian use smart?01:02
Telroth_Plushie|yes.01:02
Malicianand/or do you guys use that?01:02
SUNGAMtoc: yes, it has a live CD01:02
Telroth_Plushie|Malician, never heard of that01:02
LjL!smartpm01:03
tocyes to me, Telroth_Plushie|?01:03
ubotusmartpm: An alternative package manager that works with dpkg/rpm. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.42-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 41 kB, installed size 328 kB01:03
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Telroth_Plushie|toc, yes01:03
Maliciani dislike smart because it's horrendously slow01:03
tocok, ty01:03
Telroth_Plushie|the kubuntu install disk is a live cd01:03
tocsee you all01:03
toc:)01:03
Telroth_Plushie|there's an icon on the desktop to install it01:03
Malicianbut it's kinda the only option because it doesn't have the dependency problems apt has01:03
Telroth_Plushie|just double click01:03
tocty for helping01:03
toc;)01:03
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Maliciansmart will downgrade programs and such, which apt can't do01:03
Telroth_Plushie|Malician, i haven't encountered dependency problems01:03
Malicianmaybe debian's smoother then suse01:03
Telroth_Plushie|aptitude is supposedly better than apt-get at dependency01:04
SUNGAMsupposedly Aptitude is very good with dependencies, if you ever experience any problems with apt-get01:04
SUNGAMbah... you'r etoo fast :)01:04
SUNGAM*you're01:04
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ragplease how to apt list translations?01:04
Malicianmm.  *thinks* so I need.. to somehow find a way to fit 90 gigs of data on two 30 gig drives01:04
Telroth_Plushie|adept is a graphical frontend to apt-get or aptitude (not sure which), but it's horribly slow01:05
Malicianat which point I can reinstall linux on the big drive, my data saved01:05
Telroth_Plushie|Malician, tar.gz?01:05
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Malicianand then installl windows on the two small drives01:05
Telroth_Plushie|.rar?01:05
Telroth_Plushie|bzip2 is probably the best compression01:05
Malicianyou can't compress compressed music / movies01:05
Malicianxp01:05
Telroth_Plushie|Malician, try it, never know what bzip2 can do01:05
Telroth_Plushie|use ark01:06
Telroth_Plushie|and tell it to create a bzip2 archive01:06
Maliciangranted, some of it's stuff i ripped from my dvd collection - i can just rerip that01:06
Malicianlater01:06
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Malicianare there any major disadvantages / advantages between suse and kubuntu?01:10
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Malicianother then the ballooning ubuntu community being helpful?01:10
afm\colossuswell, it's rpm vs. dpkg01:11
afm\colossus-> dpkg wins01:11
afm\colossusFATALITY!01:11
Malician*chuckles*01:11
Malicianany reason?01:11
afm\colossusthe various ubuntu flavours are really nicely crafted01:11
afm\colossusand not overloaded with software by default01:11
afm\colossusesp. not redundant applications01:12
BluesKajAnd no Yast ! :)01:12
Kr4t05Malician: Ubuntu doesn't have a contract with Microsoft!01:12
Kr4t05Unlike Novell. >>01:12
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Malicianthat falls under "ballooning ubuntu community" =p01:12
SUNGAM:)01:12
cloakable:)01:13
Maliciannovell is like a dog that chewed up your slippers01:13
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Malicianthey still love you and they want you back01:13
Malicianbut they just dont get what they did wrong01:13
Malicianand never really will01:13
SUNGAMhehe01:13
BluesKajsuse sucks ...I tried several distros ...never did feel the need to keep using a broken OS01:13
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Malicianthe install disc i used came with apt, a fully functional desktop, along with mp3 and dvd support01:13
Malicianwhich is why i liked it01:13
Malicianbut it's not being updated anymore =/01:14
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SUNGAMI wish IBM would make a Debian/Ubuntu version of it's Thinkvantage tools. Then I wouldn't have to think about trying SuSe :)01:14
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afm\colossusas long as there's ibm_acpi01:15
afm\colossusi could not care less about that "Access IBM/Lenovo"-bullshit01:15
BluesKajgawd help you sungam, ...don't even think about it01:15
MalicianHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH01:16
Maliciani just copied over my firefox and swiftfox folders01:16
Malicianfrom the broken suse install01:16
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Malicianand they WROK01:16
Malician*work01:16
sungamafm\colossus: I want my Client Security hardware to work :)01:16
Malicianinstalled firefox via apt01:16
Malicianand it runs with all my old settings01:16
Malicianthat's awesome01:16
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afm\colossusMalician: well, that's pretty much always the case with a GNU system01:17
afm\colossusor a UNIX01:17
Malician.. the adobe flash 9 plugin still works01:17
afm\colossus~ rocks01:17
Maliciansince the plugin folder is under .mozilla01:17
Malicianthat simply rocks beyond belief01:17
sorush20ktorrent keeps crashing and freezing my computer. what can I do ?01:17
afm\colossuscheck your hardware, ktorrent runs perfectly fine on all my desktop machines01:18
BluesKajuse azureus , ktorrent is unstable in edgy01:18
sungamafm\colossus: Do you have a Thinkpad with HDAPS?01:18
afm\colossushttp://www.wygodnezakupy.pl/images/Casio-WVA-430TDE-1A2VER.jpg - what do you think of that watch? neat or not?01:18
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afm\colossussungam: nope, a T4001:18
afm\colossusbut i'm gonna get a X60s with a core 2 duo as soon as they're available01:18
devinuswhat's a good KDE Gnutella file-sharer that's not Java based? :-(01:18
afm\colossus(if ever ;))01:18
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sungamafm\colossus: ah... can't get the queue freeze patches to work, unfortunately. So I can use the HDAPS as a smackpad, but no actualy harddrive protection :)01:20
sungamnot to mention the theft-alarm... equally useful01:20
devinusanybody know of a p2p client that's for KDE?01:21
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Malicianyes01:24
Malicianbittorrent01:24
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Malicianthere's gotta be at least one kde bittorrent client01:24
Malicianktorrent, actually01:25
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devinusoh i mean gnutella01:25
devinuslike FrostWire01:25
devinusbut...erm01:25
devinusnot Java01:25
devinusQT based perhaps?01:25
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ubuntu_hello01:28
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Admiral_Chicagowhat sound driver should i use for flash sound to work?01:29
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sungamAdmiral_Chicago: in Firefox?01:31
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Admiral_Chicagosungam: yes01:31
sungamAdmiral_Chicago: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30302801:31
Admiral_Chicagosungam: beta 9?01:31
sungamAdmiral_Chicago:  worked for me.01:32
Admiral_Chicagookay i'll give it a shot01:32
sungamAdmiral_Chicago:  although I couldn't find the /etc/firefox/firefoxrc file01:32
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mooreand13213i need help installing the nvidia driver. i can go through the tutorial just fine, but i can't even boot into kubuntu at all. anyone patient enough to help a total newb?01:32
sungamAdmiral_Chicago:  still worked, though :)01:32
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laalitha_how do I add a open terminal to right click menu01:38
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Maliciangot a problem01:41
Admiral_Chicagosungam: i don't think that worked01:41
Malicianubuntu01:41
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Malicianloses my network settings every time it reboots01:41
Malicianor at least01:41
Malicianit disables the interface01:41
sungamAdmiral_Chicago: did you try running it 'aoss firefox'?01:41
ubuntu_hi all, Im trying out kubuntu, where do I get dvdcss package?01:41
Admiral_Chicagoyes01:41
Admiral_Chicagobrb let me try it again01:41
Admiral_Chicago!restricted > ubuntu_01:42
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sungamAdmiral_Chicago: if that doesn't work, then I dont' know. it worked first time around for me.01:42
sungammooreand13213: I'm sorry, I don't know. Never had any serious issues when installing the Nvidia beta drivers01:42
sungammooreand13213: how far into the boot process do you get?01:43
mooreand13213i try to pick to boot into safe graphics mode, but i just get colored lines01:44
sungammooreand13213: then I don't know. Thought it may be because of a misconfigured xorg.conf, but I've always been able to boot into safe-mode when it's been messed up01:45
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mooreand13213its not even installed though, im just trying to boot the live cd01:45
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sungamoh01:46
Admiral_Chicagoah Alsa can't find my card correctly01:46
BluesKajand Can't install jack properly01:46
sungamAdmiral_Chicago:  that would explain it I guess :)01:46
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Admiral_ChicagoOSS works fine as a sound engine :\01:47
sungammooreand13213: hopefully someone more knowledgeable than me will come along :)01:47
mooreand13213its weird, cuz i had ubuntu on here before and i never had trouble booting ot safe graphics mode01:47
Admiral_Chicagocrimsun: got time to help me with my Alsa?01:47
mooreand13213thanx for trying01:47
BluesKajbeen trying off and on for 2 days to install Jackeq ...it won't go!01:48
sungammooreand13213: if you think it's something that will go away once it's installed you could always try to install it from text mode on the alternative cd01:48
Admiral_ChicagoBluesKaj: sudo apt-get install jackeq?01:48
BluesKajno kidding01:48
Admiral_Chicagothat doesn't work?01:49
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mooreand13213i guess ill give it a shot01:49
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BluesKajnope Admiral_Chicago, ...it fails on launch ...it's a buggy version in the repos01:50
sungamAdmiral_Chicago: out of curiosity. How do you see how alsa has detected your card correctly? from the listing in the 'alsamixer' gui?01:50
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jon_is there a channel for audacity?01:51
Admiral_Chicagosungam: when i ran it as aossfirefox in terminal, alsa gave some output errors01:51
Admiral_Chicago#audacity01:51
Admiral_Chicagomaybe01:51
sungamAdmiral_Chicago: ah, ok :)01:52
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Admiral_Chicagosungam: do you get any errors+01:52
jon_how do i get libmp3lame.so?01:52
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Admiral_Chicago!lame01:53
ubotulame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB01:53
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Admiral_Chicago"sudo apt-get install lame" i think01:53
sungamsungam: npe01:53
sungambah01:53
sungam*Admiral_Chicago: nope01:53
Admiral_Chicagookay, i'll fix it later01:54
jon_i already have lame installed01:54
jon_but im trying to save something in audacity as an mp301:54
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Goofy_OS2All, I new to Kubuntu/Linux. I've a Ati radeon X1300. My grahics are not accelarated, so have a lot of hicks... very frustating. How can i change this...01:56
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sorush20ktorrent keeps crashing and freezing my computer. what can I do ?01:57
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Jucato!ati | Goofy_OS201:58
ubotuGoofy_OS2: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:58
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Goofy_OS2Hmm forgot to mention i'm  on 64bits AMD01:58
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jdtHi all, has anyone experienced the problem when the adept package manager will launch once, and then if closed, cannot be launched again. It simply asks for a password - and then - nothing.01:59
sungamjdt: check if it's already running ( ps aux | grep adept_manager )02:00
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sungamjdt: if it is, kill it and remove /var/lib/dpkg/lock (just the lock file)02:01
sungamjdt:  then run a 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'02:01
jdtsungam: thanks, yes, lots of processes. I am killing them off now and will do as advised - back shortly02:02
sungamjdt: happens to me so much I've written a script for cleaning up after adept :)02:03
Goofy_OS2ubotu: Thnx I reading and testing... How do I this: glxinfo |grep direct outputs direct rendering: No, or it outputs direct rendering: Yes, but performance in 3D applications such as games is unacceptable02:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Thnx I reading and testing... How do I this: glxinfo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:03
sungamGoofy_OS2: ubotu is a bot :)02:03
Goofy_OS2sungam: I saw it ;-(02:03
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Goofy_OS2too late :-)02:04
sungam:p02:04
jdtsungam: thanks, yes, I just wasnt sure if I was getting carried away with adding extra repo's and had caused myself a problem02:04
sungamjdt: did it work?02:05
Goofy_OS2Jucato: Card is identified as Ati X1300. how can i do the test with glxinfo?02:05
jdtsungam: so, just delete the lock file yeah/02:05
jdt?02:05
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JucatoGoofy_OS2: sorry, I'm not familiar with ATI02:05
sungamjdt: yes, delete the lock file, then run 'dpkg --configure -a'02:06
Goofy_OS2Jucato: Okay thnx anyway02:06
sungamwith a sudo if necessary :)02:06
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Goofy_OS2sungam: You're familiar with an ATI?02:06
JucatoHi Admiral_Chicago02:06
sungamGoofy_OS2: no, sorry02:06
jdtsungam: And it worked!02:06
sungamjdt: awesome :)02:06
jdtThanks very much.02:06
Goofy_OS2sungam: Thnx...02:07
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: btw, do you translate on Rosetta?02:07
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Jucatonope02:07
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Admiral_Chicagoyou should, you're in PH right?02:07
Jucatounfortunately, I'm not good in translations :)02:08
jdtsungam: Thats helped me heaps, thanks02:08
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sungamjdt: there's a small script at http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/AVlVys23.html that automates the cleanup after an adept crash.02:12
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MalicianKDE system guard only has one CPU indicator02:13
Malicianis there a way to get it to show different load indicators for each processor core?02:13
Malicianor does that mean kubuntu is only using one processor core02:13
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sungamMalician: Kpowersave shows it for me, at least hte running frequency02:14
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jdtsungam: thanks I've created it local. cheers.02:14
sungam:)02:15
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EricJ2190does anyone here know how to use iptables to forward all ports for an ip?02:17
Maliciansungam, does it show load indicators?02:17
Malicianala, cpu core 1 is 25% busy, cpu 2 core is 30%02:17
Malicianetc02:18
sungamoh, no. not load indicators02:18
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Admiral_Chicagosungam: ah i get it now, my card wasn't working02:19
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Admiral_Chicagoerr being detected by ALSA02:20
sungamAdmiral_Chicago: is it working now?02:21
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Admiral_Chicagoworking on it02:21
sungam:)02:21
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Admiral_Chicagofreddy@freddy-testing:~$ echo options snd-intel8x0 >> /etc/modprobe.d/snd-intel8x002:27
Admiral_Chicagobash: /etc/modprobe.d/snd-intel8x0: Permission denied02:27
Admiral_Chicagodoes anyone understand why I am getting this?02:27
Admiral_Chicagoworking on getting my sound working02:27
sungamcause you need to sudo it?02:28
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Admiral_Chicagosungam: nope02:29
Admiral_Chicagosame error02:29
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: the snd-intel8x0 file is not owned by you. a simple sudo won't be enough because you are only sudoing the first part of the command02:30
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: i don't understand02:30
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sungamAdmiral_Chicago : to change my trackpoint sensitivity I hvae to 'echo -n 0 > sudo /sys/.../whateversettingIwanttoset'02:31
sungamAdmiral_Chicago : *have to02:31
Kr4t05Hrm...02:31
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: sudo would only affect the echo command (running echo as root). it doesn't give you permission to write to the file in /etc02:31
sungamAdmiral_Chicago : not just 'sudo echo -n 0 > /sys/.../whatever setting'02:31
Kr4t05Does anyone happen to know why I can't load the nvidia kernel module?02:31
Admiral_Chicagohold on, let's speak english for a sec02:32
Admiral_Chicagoi get that i can't write to /etc02:32
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: that's only afaik, btw02:32
Admiral_Chicagohow could I change that02:32
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sungamdid you try running 'sudo echo option snd-intel8x0 >> /etc/modprobe.d/snd-intel8x0' or 'echo option snd-intel8x0 >> sudo /etc/modprobe.d/snd-intel8x0'?02:33
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sungamnotice the sudo is associated with the writing ot /etc/modprobe.d/snd-intel8x0 in the second statement. Not sure if it works with what you're oding, but it's what I had to do to configure my trackpoint (done through echoing)02:34
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Admiral_Chicagoumm, not sure what trackpointing is02:36
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sungamtrackpoint is a mouse/touchpad replacement :)02:36
Admiral_Chicagouhh02:37
Admiral_Chicagookay02:37
sungamAdmiral_Chicago: or you can try doing 'sudo -s' before running your ocmmand, so you're stuck in root.02:37
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sungamlike Jucato said, you get the error because you run the echo as root, but not the writing command.02:38
sungamso you're reading the file with a sudo, but not the writing. Or something similar :)02:38
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: the only way I know of is to do the command as root with "sudo -i"02:38
Admiral_Chicagosec02:39
Admiral_Chicagoit's working so far02:39
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jon_everytime i hit my numberpad, my computer goes to sleep02:40
jon_doesnt matter what number i hit02:40
Kr4t05I'm on Edgy, and I'm trying to install the latest beta drivers from nVidia. However, I'm having trouble making them work,02:40
Kr4t05I get an error when I try to start X with the nvidia drivers.02:40
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Admiral_Chicagodammit, this is being a beast02:40
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jerroldim trying to install this plugin "3dworld"...i think i have to use svn to get it..but i dont have svn installed :)02:44
jerroldi did a apt-get install subversion...but im not sure if thats correct02:44
BulwinkleHowdy all...  I just got kubuntu installed on my laptop (64bit) and I'm trying to get my broadcomm 34xx wireless working....02:45
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BulwinkleI've read a dozen different methods but what I understand is that the 64 bit driver will not work...  is this correct?02:45
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willdoes kubuntu have a gkrellm monitor?02:46
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willcould somebody send me the link again about restricted formats?02:48
Admiral_Chicago!restricted02:48
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:48
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: if this works, i'm going to be pissed02:48
alejandeusdios santo!!! por fin he instalado el kubuntu02:48
alejandeusdamn faulty hard drives02:49
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Kr4t05I'm going to stab the man who wrote the installer for the nvidia beta drivers.02:50
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Kr4t05Why couldn't they make a dash-compliant installer?02:50
alejandeusthe installer is hell02:50
alejandeusthe only way I found to install kubuntu was to install win98 and then overwrite it with kubuntu02:51
Kr4t05...02:51
alejandeusthis was hell02:51
alejandeusjust wanted to say this02:51
rOOb6346any idea why df says i have 0 room leaft on my partion but theres room on it..... here is the entry /dev/sda7             22708092  21554772         002:52
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Bulwinkledoes anyone know where the bugzilla for kubuntu/ubuntu is?02:53
jerroldanyone familiar with svn?02:53
rOObso threres 1,153,320 free on it...thats almost a gig02:53
rOObor more then a gig02:53
rOObif im not mistaken02:53
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Bulwinkler00b: that is a meg02:53
Bulwinkleoh.... nevermind02:54
Bulwinkle1153320 x 102402:54
rOOb22708092 = my 21.66 gig partion02:54
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melecio_how do i make Windows XP the default OS on GRUB?02:55
rOOband well im dling a album...and it ran outta room......if i could only use part of that gig...which i dont see why theresa  whole gig i cant use02:55
rOObi could understand settings away room...but a gig02:55
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alejandeushello.. one question here... kubuntu is a DEBIAN GNU(Linux nopes?02:59
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: i gave up02:59
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: the command didn't work?02:59
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: well I'll give it a shot tomrrow, i give up before i go nuts02:59
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: I know there's an easier way to use sudo for those complex commands, I just forgot03:00
Admiral_Chicagono that's not the problem the problem was the options03:00
Jucatoah03:01
magnusdamelecio_ : make a backup of /boot/grub/menu.lst , then modify it so that the default= line points to the index of the windows boot option (0-indexed)03:01
Permafr0stby bye03:01
BetaCookiesHey03:04
BetaCookiesI installed fglrx from the repos *and* compiled the kernel modules, so can anyone help me remove one of them? I don't know which to remove, but I don't know how to fix this, either.03:04
dylan_grr03:05
dylan_can anyone see what im typing?03:05
magnusdayes03:06
willonce ive installed 6.06 can I upgrade to 6.10 via apt?03:07
Jucatoyes, but with a little effort. it might be better to install 6.10 directly if you have the installer03:07
davey486can someone help me setup a wifi card/03:08
davey486I have itinstalled i just need a little help03:09
willwhat program do you guys use to access your ipod?03:10
willi dont see gtkpod anywhere03:10
JucatoI think Amarok has support for iPod03:11
willyeah but I mean like for writing to it etc03:11
melecio_magnusda: hmm sorry my "noobiness" but don't know how to "modify it so that the default= line points to the index of the windows boot option (0-indexed)"03:12
Jucatowill: afaik, it does that already03:13
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willI dont believe amarok will do that03:15
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Malicianheya03:15
Maliciani just installed the nvidia driver on Edgy Eft03:15
Malicianand things are much faster then before03:15
Malicianbut dragging windows around / etc is still slow03:15
magnusdamelecio_ : open the menu.lst in a text editor with sudo (after you take the backup :) ) and change the line that reads 'default=0' to default=WhateverNumberYourWindowsBootOptionInGrubIs'03:16
Malicianwhich it was not in my previous linux distro03:16
Malicianand i'm wondering if I messed up somewhere or didn't enable something03:16
magnusdamelecio_ : you have to count which number your windows option is (it's listed a bit further down)03:16
rhodrihi, i'm having a problem in edgy (i had it in dapper to) where ping never works (unless i ping myself), i fully except this could be my setup, but has anyone else had this problem?  any tips for how i could go about debugging it?  thanks03:16
magnusdamelecio_ : further down in the text file that is :)03:16
willwhats the name of the p2p client for kubuntu?03:17
willfrostwire? gnutella?03:18
melecio_magnusda: ok thanks... i'll give it a try03:18
magnusdamelecio_ : no problem, just make sure you take a backup :)03:19
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rhodriwill: frostwire is a gnutella client, same as limewire, u can run either on kubuntu.03:19
magnusdarhodri : sound slike someone's blocking a port somewhere03:19
magnusdarhodri : either on your system or somewhere in the network03:19
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rhodrimagnusda: so it's nothing to do with kubuntu?  that's what i wanted to check, i assume it's my router, but it's crap and all in korean so i don't have many options to fiddle with it!  heh.  cheers03:20
willdoes kubuntu have gkrellm03:20
rhodriwill: i don't know, check adept, or google.03:21
rhodriwill: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gkrellm&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all03:22
Maliciandoes anybody know how I can check whether i'm using the 3d drivers?03:22
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rhodriMalician: which drivers?03:22
Maliciannvidia03:22
Malicianwhen i installed them and rebooted windows seemed to move around much faster03:22
Malicianbut it's still horrendously slow03:22
magnusdarhodri : if you can ping yourself then I'd guess it would be your router (or if you're on a larger network it may be somewhere there)03:22
Malicianas if i was using software rendering03:22
Maliciannevertheless, nvidia is listed as teh driver in xorg03:22
Malicianfor some reason glxgears isn't giving me a FPS output when i run it03:23
Malicianit just runs continually without saying anything03:23
rhodrimalician: run glxinfo, see what that says03:23
Maliciandirect rendering: Yes03:23
BetaCookiesI installed fglrx from the repos *and* compiled the kernel modules, so can anyone help me remove one of them? I don't know which to remove, but I don't know how to fix this, either.03:23
rhodrimagnusda: must be the crappy router, it's given me so many headaches, i hate it.  thanks for the help!03:24
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magnusdarhodri : no problem :) You might be able to test it if you have more than one setup behind the router03:24
rhodriMalician: does it say nvidia in there?  or mesa.org?03:24
Malicianhrm, figured out how to get glxgears working and it's giving me 7000 fps03:24
Maliciannvidia03:24
Maliciani wonder why everything is so horribly slow03:25
rhodriMalician: sounds fine with everything i know then, you'll hafta find someone who knows more sorry.  actually...03:25
rhodriMalician: don't know if it's any help, but when use xgl, and the kwin window manager it gets pretty slow, are u running an xgl xserver?03:26
Maliciani'm not using xgl03:26
rhodrii don't know what it could be then sorry. :-/03:27
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willwould you guys recommend the upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10? is it worth the trouble?03:32
magnusdawill : not if everything you need is on 6.06 :)03:33
Jucatoonly if you absolutely need somethings that are on 6.10 only03:33
robotgeekwill: i dont think so. there is not much difference, if you ask me :)03:33
willdoesnt 6.10 come with firefox 2.0?03:34
Jucatoyep03:34
willbecause firefox 1.57 is the onyl available for 6.0603:34
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dylan_i think the package manager in ubuntu is less confusing than the one in kubuntu03:34
Jucatodylan_: you can always install Synaptic on Kubuntu03:35
dylan_isn't it for gnome though?03:35
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Jucatoit can run on KDE too03:36
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magnusdawill : you can download firefox 2.0 for 6.06 as well, but it may not be in the repositories.03:38
willi hate running it that way, all the plugins get unlinked and hairy03:38
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litropyquick question: kernel 2.6.19 stable is out. Any way I can just install the patch and keep my current configs?03:40
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Jucato!kernel03:41
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild03:41
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jeismai get this message when i open adept03:41
jeisma"You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one."03:41
jeismahow do i fix this?03:41
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jeismaanybody know?03:42
arieljeisma: in console "ps aux | grep adept"03:43
ariel"ps aux | grep apt-get"03:43
jeismanow what?03:43
arielsee if there are running processes03:43
arielof adept or apt-get03:43
arielthen kill them03:43
Jucato!adept crash fix | jeisma03:43
ubotujeisma: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'03:43
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litropythanks for that, Jucato.03:45
Jucatonp :)03:45
jeismathanks jucato03:45
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jeismawhen i download programs off the internet, how do i use them?03:46
Erich-KHello, I have a Hp vs17e LCD monitor and there are no drivers for it. Where can I get some?03:46
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jeismai just downloaded rambooster20.exe03:47
jeismawhat do i open it with? it's asking03:47
Erich-Kwine03:48
jeismawine?03:48
Jucato!wine | jeisma03:48
ubotujeisma: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.03:48
Jucatojeisma: basically you can't just run Windows programs on Linux03:48
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scooterhi03:50
yamalErich-K: standard lcd monitors don't need any special drivers03:52
Erich-KAh03:52
Erich-KSo just select plug and play?03:52
yamalonly exception being those that dont have buttons for the osd functions03:52
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jeismaJucato: but with wine i can?03:53
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Jucatojeisma: depends. not all Windows programs will run03:54
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roxyhi03:54
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Malician.. my desktop is actually faster with the nv driver then with nvidia03:55
Malicianwith the nv driver, i still get visual tearing when i drag around windows, but it's not slowed03:55
Malicianwith the nvidia driver moving around windows is slow03:55
Malicianthere's something highly wrong and I don't know what x_X03:55
BetaCookies[all-chans]  I will be right back, I am going to restart X03:57
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bryan_has anyone installed kubuntu on 64-bit hardware? does it work just as well as the 32-bit version?03:59
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bryan_what's a good kde program to read .ps files?04:00
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JucatoPostscript? KGhostView04:01
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bryan_thanks, i was reading the ubuntu unleashed book and they mentioned gv for gnome, but i wasn't sure what the kde equivalent was.04:03
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jeismawhat's the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?04:03
jeismaubuntu easier to use?04:03
JucatoGNOME and KDE04:03
jeismafor a newb?04:03
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Jucatoboth are easy to use. you just need to get used to new ways of doing things04:03
scooterhow do i enable voice on konversation04:03
jeismawell what's the difference?04:03
campbchhummm?04:03
bryan_i'm a newb and kde is WAY easier for me04:04
jeismai'm still trying to figure things out04:04
JucatoUbuntu uses the GNOME desktop, Kubuntu uses KDE04:04
Jucatonvm, gone :P04:04
campbchi started with kde and got attached. now i just use it.04:04
Jucatoditto04:04
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ichthyoboysame here..04:05
bryan_with kde everything just feels right and i don't struggle to figure out how to do things04:05
BetaCookies[all]  Be right back again04:05
bryan_plus things like the system settings looks and feels just like a mac :)04:05
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bryan_sorry, i have to ask this again...has anyone installed kubuntu on 64-bit hardware? does it work just as well as the 32-bit version?04:06
TehKewl1I can't figure out how to start the JACK server and I wouldn't know where to begin04:06
TehKewl1(I installed it of course)04:07
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j_is there anything like google desktop search for kubuntu?04:08
magnusdabryan_ : I've installed it on an AMD64, and it installed just fine. I'm not sure if it runs as smoothly as it does on my Thinkpad, but that might just as well be because the desktop has a rather odd compilation of hardware, where as it runs flawless on my laptop04:08
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bryan_magnusda: i plan on buying a new cheap computer to run kubuntu and i just don't know if i should go AMD64 or just plain 32-bit04:09
magnusdabryan_ : ah. If you haven't bought it yet, browse a bit on ubuntuforums and such and see if you can find any reviews :)04:10
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TehKewl1so can someone help me get the jack server running?04:11
bryan_magnuda: good advise.  i don't want to spend US$500+ and find out i can't run half the packages04:11
magnusdabryan_ : almost all packages will run, at least the ones I tried to install. Just some of them will run as 32-bit applications04:12
jerroldif i want to use svn to install applications..do i use apt-get install subversion?04:12
scooterhow do i enable voice in konversation04:12
bryan_magnusda: is it true that 100% of all 32-bit apps run no 64-bit hardware?04:12
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bryan_magnusda: is it true that 100% of all 32-bit apps run ON 64-bit hardware?04:13
TehKewl1err... what do you mean by voice?04:13
basstichHello - I wonder if someone could help me find the bottom taskbar on kubuntu... my wife graciously lost it for me!04:13
TehKewl1like, text to speech or.... +v voice04:13
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TehKewl1is there a little arrow on the right hand side basstich?04:14
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scorp007hi, is it possible to use the package manager to get an older version of a package? I need to downgrade04:14
basstichTehKewl1 - nothing is on the bottom now!04:14
basstichblank... nada04:14
scootertext to speech04:14
Jucato!kttsd04:14
ubotukttsd: a Text-to-Speech system for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1925 kB, installed size 3940 kB04:14
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scooteri cant install edgy on my system it wont let me do it04:15
basstichAny ideas, TehKewl1?04:15
TehKewl1try the desktop (right click)04:15
basstichok...04:15
TehKewl1and then go configure desktop04:16
basstichok04:16
scorp007any ideas?04:16
campbchis there a quick way to check sound? if it's not working and the volume's up and mute's off, how do you do a quick software reset to make sure nothing's hanging?04:16
basstichpm, TehKewl1?04:16
TehKewl1nah it's not there04:16
TehKewl1ok04:16
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Erich-KIs there a way to have the cleartype effect (I guess it's just AA) for fonts in linux?04:17
j_aren't the fonts smoothed already?04:19
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Shaezschei just installed on reiserFS, was that a bad idea??04:19
crimsunErich-K: it's enabled by default04:20
magnusdabryan_ : I don't know about all, but I don't see why they would not, unless they're writing straight to registery or something. Most of the time you just won't get any benefit of having a 64-bit cpu04:20
Erich-KThey look a little umm04:20
Erich-Krough?04:20
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BluesKajI have one and I installed x86 edgy on it04:21
j_Erich-K, System settings -> Appearance -> Fonts04:22
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j_the Anti-aliasing for fonts bit04:22
j_theres a configure button04:22
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jerroldanyone familiar with svn?? i dont have it installed..but id really like to figure out how...cant find anything on google i can use..04:23
j_you should be able to tune it to your satisfaction04:23
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Cuddles_Laptopevening all. anyone good with wireless networking around?04:23
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Cuddles_Laptoprunning edgy on a dell latitude, wlan0 won't connect automatically on boot [wlan0 is a pcmcia card using the r818x driver] . i have to run the kwireless assistant, and then ''sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'' to get it to work. any suggestions on getting this to work on boot, like it should?04:24
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basstichTehKewl1 is looking - but can anyone tell me if they have lost the menubar on the bottom?04:25
TehKewl1type Alt+F4 and then type kicker04:25
TehKewl1and then press enter04:25
JucatoAlt+F204:25
Erich-Kj_: Thanks for the help04:25
JucatoAlt+F4 = close04:26
j_np04:26
TehKewl1yeah that one04:26
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TehKewl1I've never been good with numbers04:26
Jucato:)04:26
Cuddles_Laptopanyone?04:26
basstichTehKewl1 - alt+F4 does nothing04:26
TehKewl1it's ALT+F204:27
TehKewl1my bad04:27
TehKewl1:/04:27
basstichALT+F2 does nothing, too04:27
TehKewl1:S04:27
Cuddles_Laptopbasstich, try right clicking your desktop, see if you get anything04:27
basstichI can do that, Cuddles04:28
Cuddles_Laptopbasstich, choose configure desktop04:28
Cuddles_Laptopcheck your settings for the taskbar.04:28
basstichok, cuddles... hope this works...04:28
basstichwhere is that??04:29
Cuddles_Laptopshould be towards the bottom of the right-click menu04:29
Cuddles_Laptopconfigure desktop04:29
basstichI see no taskbar selection - only background/behaviour/Mult. Desktops/Screen saver04:30
basstichI'm in Configure Kdesktop04:30
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Cuddles_Laptopdoes this problem survive a reboot bastich?04:31
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basstichyep... I wish it didn't - do you think adding a new user might do it?04:31
Cuddles_Laptopyou could try04:31
basstichhow do you add a user... he asks stupidly04:31
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Cuddles_Laptophrm... can't get to a konsole, can you...04:32
jerroldapt-get install svn-buildpackage if i want to install stuff using svn? :P04:32
basstichI can- what is that CTRl - something or other?04:32
Cuddles_Laptopctrl-alt-f1, log in at the prompt, and type adduser <username>04:32
basstichbrb04:32
Cuddles_Laptopoops, sudo adduser04:33
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basstichhow do I get to be root??!04:33
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basstichCuddles - I used madwifi - did it all for me04:33
basstichgot root04:34
Cuddles_Laptoptried tha basstich. still no joy.04:34
basstichhow do I make the user admin priv?04:34
Cuddles_Laptopthat i have no idea.04:35
LeeJunFan!wireless | Cuddles_Laptop04:36
ubotuCuddles_Laptop: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:36
Cuddles_Laptopbeen there leejunfan.04:37
Cuddles_Laptopdid that, the forums, google, etc.04:37
LeeJunFanCuddles_Laptop: what wireless chipset do you have?04:37
basstichNope - didn't do it Cuddles - can anyone else suggest how to get the taskbar back?? I'm really screwed - I have a lot of stuff on this04:38
Cuddles_Laptopleejunfan, rtl818004:38
basstichdoes anyone know how to configure the taskbar?04:38
Cuddles_Laptopsorry basstich. the only other thing i can think of would be to reinstall kde04:39
BluesKajsystem settings , basstich,04:39
basstichgo on, BluesKaj - Alt+F2 - systemsettings... where??04:40
LeeJunFanbasstich: alt+f2 kicker04:40
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BetaCookiesHow do I fix this error:  Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".04:40
BluesKajSORRY basstich, thought you were in desktop04:40
basstichLeeJunFan - that does nothing04:40
basstichI am in desktop04:41
LeeJunFanon the livecd?04:41
basstichno04:41
basstichshould I be there?04:41
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LeeJunFanbasstich: you are in KDE?04:41
basstichyes... KDE04:41
fyrmedicHow do I create new users and groups in console?04:42
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ZoohouseHello everyone04:42
LeeJunFanbasstich: when you hit alt+f2 did it bring up the request to run a command?04:42
basstichyes Lee04:42
ZoohouseHow can I see my defult spellchecker?04:42
LeeJunFanfyrmedic: man useradd04:42
fyrmedicLeejunFan, thanks04:42
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LeeJunFanZoohouse: it depends on the application, some use ispell some use aspell some either/both.04:43
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LeeJunFanbasstich: and you have no taskbar at all?04:43
basstichLeeJunFan - Alt+F2 brings up a window04:43
benjaminkipwhere can i get more interesting soft please???04:43
basstichno taskbar at all04:43
basstichnadda04:43
LeeJunFan!adept | benjaminkip04:43
ubotubenjaminkip: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto04:43
LeeJunFan!repos | benjaminkip04:44
ubotubenjaminkip: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:44
ZoohouseLeeJunFan: I ask because it because spell check in kopete isn't working...04:44
BetaCookies[all-msg]  Restarting X server...04:44
LeeJunFanbasstich: what if you open a konsole with alt+f2, and try running kicker from there, might give something useful.04:44
Cuddles_Laptopall i need is the wireless to automatically request an ip address via dhcp on boot, but it fails every time.04:45
basstichwhen I enter kicker - nothing happens04:45
basstichit clears the screen...04:45
magnusdabasstich : or try running kicker from a console to see if you get any error messages. From a console within KDE I mean04:45
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BluesKajnodding off.. sacktime here ..nite all04:45
LeeJunFanbasstich: otherwise rm -f ~/.kde/share/apps/kicker && rm -f ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc && kicker04:46
basstichctrl+alt+F1 - then sudo kicker?04:46
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LeeJunFanbasstich: no, don't sudo kde apps.04:46
LeeJunFan!kdesu04:46
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo04:46
basstichjsut enter kicker??04:47
basstichkicker: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kicker.so:undefined symbo:dleButton04:47
basstichThat's what I get... :(04:48
LeeJunFanbasstich: did you recently do upgrades to KDE?04:48
basstichno04:48
basstichMy wife uses this on her laptop - read email - then pressed ctrl and another button - she can't remember what04:49
basstichnow the taskbar is gone!04:49
basstichshould I reboot in safe mode, and re-install kde??04:49
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basstichLeeJunFan??04:50
Cuddles_Laptopit's worth a shot basstich.04:50
LeeJunFanbasstich: you might try creating a new user, logging in as that user, and see if the taskbar works there. IF so then it's just something for that one user. Although I'd have to say it doesn't look like the case - it's worth a try.04:50
basstichdid that... and no04:50
basstichapt-get install kde??04:50
LeeJunFanbasstich: sudo apt-get install -f04:50
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LeeJunFanmight fix any possible broken deps.04:51
basstichnope04:51
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basstichthat didn't do it04:51
LeeJunFanIt sounds like it's got a library mismatch, like either kicker was updated and the library wasn't, or the library was and kicker wasn't.04:51
LeeJunFanbasstich: just a sec.04:51
basstichk04:51
basstichit's autoremoving a lot of stuff!04:52
LeeJunFanbasstich: the install -f is?04:52
basstichyes!04:52
basstichhow can I re-install KDE?04:53
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basstichit gives me an error with kicker04:53
LeeJunFanbasstich: wait for it to finish, then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:53
basstichsymbol lookup error - ok04:53
basstichsays it's done...04:54
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basstichrebooting now...04:54
LeeJunFanCuddles_Laptop: I went looking for info on your wifi, sry. I've not worked with that chipset and it doesn't look too promising. Can you sudo modprobe rtl8180_24x04:54
Cuddles_Laptopleejunfan, instead of the r818x driver?04:55
basstichstill no taskbar04:55
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LeeJunFanbasstich: and you did the sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?04:56
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basstichhow can I get adept to run without KDE start ] \04:56
basstichyes, Leejun I did04:56
LeeJunFanbasstich: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall kicker04:56
gmitchelplease help, i rebooted my computer... changed nothing and now my desktop won't fit entirely on the screen... i have to move the mouse to see other parts of the screen04:57
Cuddles_Laptopleejunfan, no such driver04:57
basstichwhat is kicker, anyway?04:57
LeeJunFanbasstich: that's the taskbar04:57
basstichahhhhhh04:57
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basstichdoing something...04:57
LeeJunFangmitchel: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file04:58
basstichgot it!!!!!!!!!04:58
basstichYAHOO!!04:58
basstichit's there... it's there!!!!04:58
basstichyay, even!04:58
LeeJunFan:)04:58
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basstichman, you are good!04:59
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basstichThank you very much!!!!!!!!04:59
Cuddles_Laptopleejunfan, after doing the little dance with kwireless and resetting networking, the wireless works flawlessly. it's just this nonsense at startup.04:59
LeeJunFanCuddles_Laptop: okay, so the driver itself works. What happens at startup?05:00
magnusdanever underestimate a little dancing to get hardware to work :)05:00
LeeJunFanA little dancing and some animal sacrifice.05:01
Cuddles_Laptopleejunfan, nothing at all. driver is loaded, but dhcp client can't get an ip. i have to run kwireless assistant just to get it to try accessing the wireless hub.05:01
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basstichCuddles -05:01
basstichwww.seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/MadWifi05:02
LeeJunFanCuddles_Laptop: chances are settings in /etc/network/interfaces are either wrong or missing for wireless.05:02
Cuddles_Laptopand then i have to do /etc/init.d/networking restart to get an ip05:02
Cuddles_Laptopbasstich, tried that, no joy.05:02
LeeJunFanmadwifi only supports atheros chipsets, his is realtek05:02
basstichyes... that's right05:02
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LeeJunFanCuddles_Laptop: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file and gimme the link05:03
magnusdahas anyone tried rebuilding the kernel with the HDAPS_PROTECT patch?05:04
basstichCuddles - this I know from my myth tv install.. hold on.. I wrote it down05:04
LeeJunFannot me, magnusda what's that do?05:04
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fauconhi, i have kubuntu 6.01 drapper, and i wanna know if i can upgrade to 6.10 without downloading the hole CD/DVD   i mean, just by changing url into apt-get .. is it possible05:04
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LeeJunFan!upgrade | faucon05:04
ubotufaucon: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)05:04
Cuddles_Laptopleejunfan, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34905/05:05
magnusdaLeeJunFan : it activates queue-freeze in the kernel, which allows the HDAPS (hard drive active protection system, or something similar) in some Thinkpads to work in linux :)05:05
jerroldi need help installing this beryl plugin "3d world"  i found the svn repository..but apparently its available as a normal plugin..anyone have the time to point me in the right direction please?05:05
basstichtype / etc/init.d network stop05:05
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LeeJunFanmagnusda: ah okay.05:05
fauconthanks leejunfan05:05
magnusdajerrold : out of curiosity. What does the plugin do?05:05
Cuddles_Laptopbasstich, if i do that, i go offline.05:05
LeeJunFanmakes your windows stand off when you zoom the cube out.05:06
basstichthen (when you are offline)05:06
magnusdaLeeJunFan : I managed to compile it last night (although wrecking my setup for a while), but the kernel ran fine. Only problem was there was no active protection system even with the patch applied :)05:06
basstichetc/update-rc.d network defaults05:06
LeeJunFanCuddles_Laptop: I see your essid is ANY, is there any chance it could be connecting to someone elses network in your local vicinity?05:06
basstichor sudo update-rc.d network defaults05:06
jerroldmagnusa: its for that 3d desktop..i beleve you can have a transparent cube..and any selected windows will "pop" out when you rotate it..really cool eye candy05:07
basstichThat's what I did to get it to work05:07
basstichdid you get that - sorry Leejunfan.05:07
Cuddles_Laptopleejunfan, i live on a far in the middle of bfe. only wireles sconnection for 10 plus miles is mine.05:07
gmitchelI pasted my xorg.conf but i don't think anything has changed since i started having this problem with the desktop going off the screen05:07
magnusdajerrold : fancy... have Beryl, but no 3Dworld plugin... will have to look at it :)05:07
jerroldmagnusda: http://linux.wordpress.com/2006/11/23/video-beryl-3d-window-layer-plugin/05:07
LeeJunFanCuddles_Laptop: and you use no WEP?05:07
Cuddles_Laptopnope.05:07
magnusdajerrold : thanks :)05:07
Cuddles_Laptopno wpa either.05:07
jerroldim pretty new to linux/beryle/kubuntu..but i really wanna get this plugin working :P05:08
basstichetc/init.d/network stop .......... then ...... etc/init.d/network restart .........then.......... etc/update-rc.d network defaults05:08
LeeJunFanjerrold: I compiled my own beryl from svn, so I don't know about the repos.05:08
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basstichyou do all this after you have your wireless up and running, cuddles...05:08
jerroldleejun: i think i have an svn repo for it..i just have no idea how to use it05:08
LeeJunFanjerrold: perhaps someone in #beryl would have the answer?05:08
basstichThis I know - I had a pain with my rtl adapter, too05:08
Cuddles_Laptopbasstich, i've done that a few dozen times. it doesn't work05:08
basstichreally?05:08
Cuddles_Laptopreally.05:08
LeeJunFanjerrold: you have to add that repository to /etc/apt/sources.list05:08
jerroldi apt-get installed svn-buildpackage..i dont know where to go from here05:08
basstichthat sucks05:08
basstichit worked for me :(05:09
jerroldleejunfan..really? and just do a normal apt-get?05:09
magnusdaCuddles_Laptop : not saying it's your solutoin. But my wlan setup is only reliable if I use Knetworkmanager05:09
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Cuddles_Laptopi just waqnt it to connect on bootup.05:09
LeeJunFanjerrold: yeah, once you add that, then apt-get update, then apt-get install xgl beryl emerald, I think. If you need xgl that is, if you use aiglx then no xgl.05:09
Cuddles_Laptoptried thattoo magnusda. still have to reset it when i log in.05:10
LeeJunFanCuddles_Laptop: not sure why, I know my madwif doesn't join my network on first try for some reason either.05:10
magnusdaCuddles_Laptop : what about hacking it into a startup script? Not a solution, but a nice workaround05:10
jerroldleejunfan: the svn repo is svn://svn.beryl-project.org/beryl/branches/beryl-3d-plugin ...apt-get will work w/ that?05:10
LeeJunFanCuddles_Laptop: I have to issue an iwconfig ath1 essid [essid]  again.05:10
Cuddles_Laptopleejunfan, it always takes at least one retry, sometimes up to 4.05:11
magnusdaCuddles_Laptop : I mean creating a .sh that will do your commands automatically at bootup05:11
gmitchelno one knows what my desktop is larger than my screen size?05:11
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LeeJunFanjerrold: that's to download the source and build it yourself. Not a repository for ubuntu. There are svn repos out there for ubuntu though.05:11
Cuddles_Laptopmagnusda, any ideas what to put into it?05:11
LeeJunFanjerrold: you don't need current svn though, 0.1.2 beryl has the transparent cube and 3dworld.05:12
shadowhywindhay all i was wondering if anyone knew why explorer.exe keeps running on l inux?05:12
LeeJunFanjerrold: and building it yourself is a chore if you aren't versed in compiling.05:12
magnusdaCuddles_Laptop ~/.kde/Autostart/ create a .start in there05:12
basstichThanks again, LeejunFan - I'm off to bed - and hope you find your answer, Cuddles05:12
LeeJunFanshadowhywind: what are you on?05:12
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Cuddles_Laptopthanks bass05:12
shadowhywindedgy05:12
LeeJunFanshadowhywind: I mean what drugs? :p05:13
magnusdaCuddles_Laptop ops... I mean, create a bash script in there05:13
magnusdaCuddles_Laptop and make sure to +x it  :)05:13
LeeJunFanshadowhywind: how are you running explorer?05:13
magnusdaCuddles_Laptop  then it will run on KDE startup05:13
shadowhywindlol, i wish i was on something, it would make more sense that way05:13
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Cuddles_Laptopmagnusda, i could always put the commands into /etc/rc.local for that matter, but i don't know what commands will work.05:13
shadowhywindin my KDE system guard, its showing that c:\windows\system32\explorer.exe is running05:13
jerroldleejun: i just added  deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn..and did an apt-install beryl-plugins..i suppose i have to restart beryl05:13
magnusdaCuddles_Laptop just reread your question and realised I was answering the wrong one :)05:14
shadowhywindtaking 2,688,088 of VmSize hehe05:14
magnusdaCuddles_Laptop what do you havce to do for your wlan card to work?05:14
pacmananyone good with mp3 players and Linux?05:14
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magnusdaCuddles_Laptop unless it involves a gui thing, you could juts throw whatever you type each startup in there. But that would be obvious, so I'm guessing there's more to it :)05:15
Cuddles_Laptopmagnusda, running edgy on a dell latitude, wlan0 won't connect automatically on boot [wlan0 is a pcmcia card using the r818x driver] . i have to run the kwireless assistant, and then ''sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'' to get it to work.05:15
unix_infidelpacman: its simply a matter of whether they are supported.05:15
unix_infidelnot whether anyone is good at them.05:15
shadowhywindthis is so werid, why would explorer.exe open up becuase wine starts?05:15
pacmanmine is supported, or at least everything was peachy a couple days ago05:15
unix_infidelshadowhywind: because some apps are dependent on the program.05:16
Cuddles_Laptopshadowhywind, because explorer is the windows equivalent of kde's kicker05:16
LeeJunFanshadowhywind: all good malware starts up when the system does :p05:16
unix_infidelCuddles_Laptop: that's not true at all.05:16
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shadowhywindthats just werid!05:16
magnusdaCuddles_Laptop , do you have to do anything in kwireless assistant?05:16
unix_infidelshadowhywind: like say when you open up ms word.05:16
rancehey all, Im on the web site but I cant find a list of available packages for kubuntu/ubuntu, is there a web page where I can do a package search of the various repositories?05:16
Cuddles_Laptopunix_infidel, more or less. stupid question = stupid answer05:16
LeeJunFan!adept | rance05:16
uboturance: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto05:17
BetaCookiessleep(28800); <-- i'm sleeping [idle]  for 8 hours...05:17
LeeJunFan!repos | rance05:17
uboturance: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:17
unix_infidelshadowhywind: and then say you do control+open, the program uses explorer.exe05:17
unix_infidelCuddles_Laptop: fair enough :)05:17
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Cuddles_Laptopmagnusda, yes, click on my hub's name. then it says failed, i exit it, and in konsole do the networking restart05:17
shadowhywindstill werid, but thanks for the info05:17
shadowhywindi wont stress over why its open now hehe05:17
ranceI know adept is the package manager, but I havent installed kubuntu yet, im downloading 6.10 now05:17
rancethanks for the package reference05:18
unix_infidelshadowhywind: remember you're trying to natively execute an environment.05:18
LeeJunFanrance: http://packages.ubuntu.com/05:18
Dr_willisapt: in konqueror is handy05:18
unix_infidelDr_willis: ?05:18
Dr_willisfor searching/browsing the packages. :)05:19
magnusdaCuddles_Laptop , is it possible to have the kwireless assistant automatically try to connect to your hub? Either by command line or clicking? Again, guessing you'd have tried if that was an option :)05:19
unix_infidelDr_willis: hah, i didnt even know you could do that.05:19
unix_infidelthat is handy :)05:19
Dr_willisthe power of Kioslaves!05:19
Dr_willis:)05:19
Cuddles_Laptopmagnusda, tried, and no.05:19
unix_infidelDr_willis: konq is one of the few KDE apps i've ever used and liked.05:20
Cuddles_Laptopi'm assuming i need a command line util that does the same as kwireless assistant.05:20
unix_infidelif only the kioslaves could remember things like file associations and why not to do stupid stuff.05:20
Cuddles_Laptopis there such an animal?05:21
unix_infidelCuddles_Laptop: hmm, what are you trying to do again?05:22
Cuddles_Laptoprunning edgy on a dell latitude, wlan0 won't connect automatically on boot [wlan0 is a pcmcia card using the r818x driver] . i have to run the kwireless assistant, and then ''sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'' to get it to work.05:22
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unix_infidelCuddles_Laptop: when you startup, does ifconfig show you have an ip address?05:22
magnusdaCuddles_Laptop , if you had that then the automation at bootup would be a decent workaround :)05:22
Cuddles_Laptopno unix_infidel.05:23
Cuddles_Laptopmagnusda, exactly.05:23
unix_infidelCuddles_Laptop: but you get an if at boot right?05:23
unix_infidelif=interface.05:23
Cuddles_Laptopyes, wlan0 shows up.05:23
magnusdaCuddles_Laptop , are you sure you can't get the same functionality that you now get from Wireless assistant as from network-manager, because if I'm not mistaken, that's a command line utility?05:23
unix_infidelCuddles_Laptop: then all you need to do is define the essid with iwconfig and execute dhclient wlan005:24
unix_infideli know you get caught up in using gui tools but why do that when you can write a script that automatically connects to a WAP based on wireless strength05:24
Cuddles_Laptopunix_infidel, what if i'm roaming, and don't know the essid?05:24
unix_infideliwlist [interface name]  scan05:25
Cuddles_Laptopunix_infidel, could you write such a script? i'm tired, have a migraine, and my hand is cramping badly.05:25
unix_infidelCuddles_Laptop: that's the beauty of writing your own automated scripts, they just automatically connect to 1) either the AP you define or 2) the closest AP05:25
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unix_infidelCuddles_Laptop: I'm on windows :P05:26
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unix_infidelThis is all from memory :)05:26
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unix_infidelCuddles_Laptop: google for one, i'm pretty sure you're not the first one who's had such a need.05:26
Cuddles_Laptop35 years with 2 normal hands, then one little accident, and i type like this.05:26
unix_infideleither that or look at wpa_supplicant, it automanages your wireless connections w/ or w/o encryption05:27
Cuddles_Laptopwpa_supplicant?05:27
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unix_infidel!wpa_supplicant05:27
ubotuwpasupplicant: Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i). In component main, is important. Version 0.5.4-5 (edgy), package size 227 kB, installed size 588 kB05:27
Cuddles_Laptophmmm.05:27
unix_infidelRemember, you DONT have to use encryption to use that tool.05:28
unix_infidelits VERY good at doing what it does.05:28
solid_liqanyone know how I can get a 32 bit version of libXcursor on amd64 arch?05:28
unix_infidelBut remember, if you arent using encryption, please use EAP and some protocol limiting factors.05:28
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Cuddles_Laptopi need to read up on it.05:29
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eduhi!05:41
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tubaxxhy all05:44
tubaxxany french poeple here ?05:44
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crimsun#kubuntu-fr ?05:45
ParkotronHow do I reset the font size when browsing in Konqueror?05:46
tubaxxthx crimsun05:47
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Admiral_Chicagoany P2p cilents on Ubuntu that aren't Frostwire?05:52
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intelikey!p2p05:52
ubotuConventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.05:52
intelikeytelnet and ssh05:53
Admiral_Chicagointelikey: i can't use ssh my network is blocking it05:54
intelikeythat's sad05:54
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Admiral_Chicagowell i can ssh out but not in05:55
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intelikeyi'm so tired of drills..........05:56
intelikeyodd that an .edu would block inbound ssh traffic05:58
Admiral_Chicagoyea i know, the server here is awful. Microsoft Server 2003 :\05:59
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intelikey;/05:59
Admiral_Chicagoitss not a bug, its a feature!05:59
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intelikeylol yeah05:59
pacmananyone know anything about using mp3 players with Linux06:00
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intelikeyi bet ya the bot does06:01
intelikey!mp3 | pacman06:01
ubotupacman: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:01
pacmanI don't think that's going to help me06:01
intelikeywhy's that ?06:01
pacmanall of a sudden, I can't delete music files from my mp3 player06:01
pacmannor can I put new files06:02
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intelikeymount it with the propper umask=  and i bet ya you can06:02
pacmanhow do I do that06:02
intelikey!ntfs | ?06:03
ubotu?: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse06:03
intelikeyprolly no help there06:03
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intelikeysudo mount -o remount,umask=000 /media/<mountpoint_of.the_player>06:04
Dr_willisIt pays to learn how to mount things manually. :)06:04
intelikeytry that ^   inturpreting the <*>   and see what ya get06:05
pacmancrap06:05
pacmanthat worked06:05
Dr_willisLinux FUNdamentals. :)06:05
intelikey???  and that's bad ?06:05
pacmanno, just startled me06:05
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intelikeylol06:06
Admiral_ChicagoHawkwind: netstat is a command that shows connections06:06
_goofy_is it possible to ftp over the internet to a friends conputer06:06
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pacmanthank you intelikey06:06
intelikeypacman do   man mount  and scroll down to the part about  vfat specific arguments.06:06
Dr_willis_goofy_,  if he has a ftp server :)06:06
robsonsomeone can help me?06:07
intelikeythere you can learn why that worked.    and you're welcome06:07
_goofy_so you cant just use a ftp client to connect like in a lan06:07
Dr_willis_goofy_,  ftp client connectsd to a ftp server06:07
robsoni'm in trouble with my radeon 9200 video card06:07
robsonanyone?06:08
intelikey!ati | robson06:08
uboturobson: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:08
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Dr_willisclare to clarify? :)06:08
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Dr_willisCare to Clarify. heh heh..06:08
intelikeykare to klarify      ;p06:08
Dr_willisClare to Caraify!06:09
robsoni installed the driver, it's workin, but, when i run the command fglrxinfo i get the message06:09
robsonXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server06:09
robsonXlib: No protocol specified06:09
robsonError: unable to open display :006:09
Dr_willistry 'sudo fglrxinfo'06:09
_goofy_DR_willis how should i go about setting up my and his computer so we can share file over the internet06:09
Dr_willisIf its 3working.. :) why worry.06:09
robsonok06:09
robsondont work :(06:10
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intelikey_goofy_ ssh06:10
Dr_willis_goofy_,  have him download/install a ftp server.. or ssh server so you could use ftp or 'scp' to copy stuff over06:10
robsonhow can i know if 3d is working?06:10
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Dr_willisrobson,  install a 4d game. :)06:10
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Dr_willis3d even06:10
Dr_willisheh06:10
Admiral_ChicagoHawkwind: nevermind it's not that good06:10
pacmanit's letting me delete, but not write06:10
robsonhehe06:10
racarrrobson: glxinfo | grep direct06:10
racarrrobson: or, glxgears, if it's smooth 3D is probably working06:11
seishinbyou06:11
robsoni got the same error, but the last line up to Error: unable to open display (null)06:11
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racarrrobson: for glxinfo | grep direct?06:11
robsonyes06:12
racarrCopypaste the output to06:12
racarr!pastebin06:12
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:12
intelikeypacman interesting.   should be full rwxrwxrwx permissions mask  (777 for the geek in you)  what are you using to copy  a gui tool ?06:12
robsonok06:12
pacmanuhm...just copy/paste06:12
robsonone second06:13
racarrpacman: If it's multiline no need to flood the channel, and apparently it is06:13
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pacmanracarr- not trying to copy and paste to here :)06:14
robsoni got this06:14
robsonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34910/06:14
Admiral_Chicago!jp-06:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jp- - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:14
Admiral_Chicago!jp06:14
joaquin__olaaaaaaaa06:14
ubotu #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 06:14
racarrpacman: Err, took that out of context, sorry06:14
pacmantis okay06:14
joaquin__alguien abla espaol???06:14
intelikeyso... konqueror....    try a konsole command   cp <file.name> /media/<destination>    and see if you get any error messages pacman06:14
Dr_willis!es06:14
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:14
robsonsomeone can help me? plz :)06:15
robsonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34910/06:15
racarrrobson: Why are you root?06:15
intelikeyracarr same reason i am ?06:15
robsoni loged as root to do this commands06:16
pacmancp: cannot create regular file `/media/sdb1/less than jake-pezcore-03-johnny quest thinks were sellouts.mp3': Read-only file system06:16
Dr_willisunmount it.. and mount it read/write with the right permissions/umask options. :)06:16
intelikeyrobson you should not irc as root.   it's a security hole for your box that can even cause trubble for the rest of us.06:17
pacmanwalk me through that...I suck at teh linux commands06:17
robsonok06:17
robsonsorry abou that man06:17
Dr_willis!mount06:17
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks06:17
robsontanks anyway06:17
Dr_willisHmmm not  good factoid. heh...06:17
robsonbye guys06:17
Dr_willisgoogle for 'how to mount drives'06:17
magnusdaintelikey : how would it affect other irc users?06:17
Dr_willisDefacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume06:17
racarrerr, robson06:17
racarryou aren't IRCING as root06:18
Dr_willisthats a good site for examples.06:18
racarrircing*06:18
robsonps: i am just as root in the terminal console06:18
racarryes, that's fine06:18
robsonis that a problem?06:18
racarrno, not for IRC06:18
intelikeypacman hmmmm   do  mount  and show me the ONE line that contains /media/sdb1/06:18
robsoni am ircing in as an reular user06:19
robsonregular*06:19
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intelikeymagnusda if your box gets rooted it can be used as an attack base for stupid people that like to try to take over irc channels....    it does happen.06:19
Dr_willis'friends dont let friends irc as root' :)06:19
magnusdaintelikey, ah, ok :)06:19
robsonthank you guys06:19
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magnusdahehe06:19
robsoni resolved my problem06:20
robsonsee you06:20
intelikeyrobson good on ya mate06:20
pacmanwhat do you mean, show you a line06:20
winbond!ati06:20
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:20
pacmanyou mean from an ls -al06:20
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intelikeypacman if you type "mount "  in the konsole it lists all mounts    show me the one with  /media/sdb1/06:21
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pacman /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)06:21
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intelikeyit's not a read only    but it's not umasked correctly. pacman   did you umount that and remount it ?06:22
intelikeyor unplug and replug ?06:22
Dr_willishe pasted the line for sda1 not sdb1 :)06:22
pacmanI've unplugged and plugged a bunch06:22
pacmanoops06:23
Dr_willispacman,  you UNPLUGGED it 'while' it was mounted?06:23
intelikeyi didn't even notice    lol06:23
pacman /dev/sdb1 on /media/sdb1 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8,umask=000,umask=000)06:23
pacmanyeah, but I've done it before, and everything was okay06:23
intelikeyok  that's ......  hmmmm dubble umask listings....  i never tried that to see if it worked or not....06:24
Dr_willishaving umask= 3 different times... is..... a sign i dont think its ok... :)06:24
Dr_willistripple umask listings06:24
Dr_willisif his gid/uid are correct. i dont think the umask are needed.06:24
intelikeyand the 077 is what's being used.06:24
intelikeyDr_willis he may not be uid 1000 tho06:25
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intelikeywell that's a very convoluted mount string.....06:26
Dr_willisTIme for a windows answer! reboot!06:26
Dr_willis:)06:26
intelikeylol  no.06:26
Dr_willisand DONT unplug the things while they are mounted.06:26
intelikeyyes that ^06:27
pacmanso what should I do06:27
Dr_willisunmount the thing..06:27
intelikeysudo umount /dev/sdb106:27
Dr_willisthen mount it again manmually06:27
pacmandevice is busy06:27
poningrupacman: right click on the device and press eject06:27
poningrushut down anything that is using it06:28
Dr_willisand duck when it flys across the room. ;) kidding....06:28
pacmanhow bout safely remove?06:28
pacmanI don't have eject06:28
Dr_willisthats the same thing.06:28
Dr_willisrember to use that in the future. :)06:28
pacmanumount: /media/sdb1 is not in the fstab (and you are not root)06:29
intelikeypacman; sudo eject /dev/sdb1 ;sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 -o rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,umask=00006:30
pacmaneject: unmount of `/media/sdb1' failed06:31
pacmanalso /media/sdb1: device is busy06:31
pacmangot that twice06:31
dipeshpacman "fuser -km /mnt/sdb1"06:31
dipeshkills everything that accesses /mnt/sdb106:32
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Dr_willis:)06:32
dipesh:)06:32
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pacman:)06:32
magnusdafirestarter killed my connection.... and BitchX didn't tell me :(06:33
intelikeyyeah     i think it that 'blasted' kio thingy that trys to be M$ windows and mount every thing you plug in.....06:33
dipeshkdesktop shouldn't access /(media|mnt)/sdb106:33
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xsachawhich is faster? SAK or CAB?06:33
intelikeydipesh automounter ?06:33
xsachato get back to X06:33
pacmanI'm lost....nothign is working06:33
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dipeshintelikey: afaik automounter isn't part of kdesktop nor does automounter itself listen on the mountpointers... I guess a kio-slave or kdirwatcher or something like this is used internaly06:34
dipesh(so, an own process)06:34
Dr_willisThats what ya get for PLuging/unpluging lots of times..06:34
Dr_willis:)06:34
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pacmanso what, unplug, and reboot?06:35
pacman:)06:35
Dr_willisor leave it plugged in and reboot06:35
pacmanokay06:35
pacmanbrb06:35
dipeshpacman: at least try "fuser -m /media/sdb1" (without -k switch)06:35
Dr_willisor unplug it.. stick it in your nose.. stand on your head.. sing the national anthem. and reboot.06:35
dipeshuhm... to late06:35
dipeshrebooting is soooo windows like :-/06:35
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intelikeydipesh i don't know what exactly but when i let kde put MOUNTED * icons on the desktop i had that problem.06:35
Dr_willisso it just pluging/unplugging stuff  over and over and hopeing it works06:36
intelikey<dipesh> rebooting is soooo windows like :-/   and generally not that answer06:36
dipeshintelikey: hmmm... funny. I use it regulary and never had that prob06:36
intelikeydipesh have you tried to cli eject a cd with the icon on the desktop ?06:37
intelikeythat's where i found the problem.06:37
intelikeyas i said i don't know   but assume it's a kio thing.06:38
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intelikeyand may somehow affect scsi (my interface) differently.06:38
dipeshintelikey: nope, not tried. let me check it :)06:38
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dipeshuhm, not possible here since I removed all autostuff... eh, I'll try it tomorrow on my fresh kubuntu-laptop...06:39
pacman*sighs*06:39
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pacmanwell, I got in unmounted06:40
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pacmanI give up06:43
pacmanI need to get a shower and go to bed06:44
demonic_Angelhi06:44
pacmanI'll be back tomorrow06:44
dipeshgood night, pacman06:44
intelikeypacman you might want to get a second openion,  but i'd do this.                     sudo echo '/dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 vfat noauto,dmask=000,fmask=111,noexec,nosuid,user,users 0 0' | tee -a /etc/fstab06:44
esaymanyone use knetworkmanager?06:44
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pacmanintelikey: permission denied06:45
magnusdaesaym, yes06:46
intelikeyoh  sudo in the wrong place.06:46
magnusda:)06:46
kaiwhat command can I found out what version of kubuntu im using?06:46
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esaymdoes it work fine with wep and wpa?06:46
poningrukai: lsb_release iirc06:46
intelikeyecho '/dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 vfat noauto,dmask=000,fmask=111,noexec,nosuid,user,users 0 0' | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab06:46
magnusdaesaym, yup, WPA-PSK and WEP at least06:46
esaymit works good for me but tomorrow it get to try it on my girlfriends wpa enabled router, just wondering what to expect06:47
intelikeykai  lsb-release06:47
magnusdaesaym , actually it's one of the pieces of software I'm most happy iwth06:47
kaithanx06:47
esaymah, well hell yea06:47
pacmanokay06:47
magnusdaesaym , it remembers the settings for different networks, and always seems to pick the one I want (multiple overlapping networks :) )06:47
kaiit says command not found06:47
poningrukai: lsb_release?06:47
intelikeypacman now the mount /media/sdb1      command   and the umount /media/sdb1     should work.06:48
esaymcool06:48
intelikeyor sudo mount   that06:48
pacmanthe mount from before?06:48
kaino modules loaded06:48
esaymi wonder how to tell what kind of wpa is being used on her router?06:48
pacmanor just: mount /media/sdb106:48
intelikeyno just that simple one06:48
intelikeysudo mount /media/sdb106:48
kaithe reason for me wanting toknow is because I want to see whats up with automatix06:48
kaiis it worth tryin to get? is it that good or what?06:49
esaymI see NM has a option for automatic.  Maybe it will work just fine06:49
pacmanmount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /media/sdb106:49
magnusda!automatix > kai06:50
esaymmagnusda do you have to type the wpa key into NM in hex or just regular numbers?06:50
intelikeythen you didn't get it umounted or.  it automounted when you pluged it in...  i suspeect the second  in which case we are fighting  cli manual -vs- gui auto krap    and i'm not in the mood for it.06:50
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magnusdaesaym , I typed it in regular numbers (and letters)06:51
pacmanintelikey: I think you're right06:51
kaithe bot just jumped me :)06:51
pacmanintelikey: I appreciate everything...I'll screw with it some more tomorrow, I've got to get to bed...4am is awful early06:51
intelikeypacman so turn it off and go to bed and tomarrow it will work maybe06:51
esaymoh ok. her's is just numbers hmm06:51
ironfroggywhat would cause a grub installation with no errors to just hang at "Loading GRUB stage1.5."?06:52
magnusdaesaym , that depends on what you set it to. You can choose whether to input it as hex or ascii06:52
esaymi see06:52
magnusdaironfroggy , my desktop hangs if I have my NWN2 DVD in :)06:52
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esaymso i guess i would just choose ascii then06:52
magnusdaironfroggy , in my case it's the Securom software I guess :(06:53
ironfroggymagnusda: ive removed all other discs06:53
intelikeymy thinking is that if it's automounted that line in fstab might prevent that when the machine is restarted..... but i don't sujest a reboot to see..06:53
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magnusdaesaym , if you have your key in ascii, then do that :)06:53
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ironfroggyive not been able to boot my desktop for nearly a month. im beyond despair for trying to repair it.06:53
esaymi shall :)06:53
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magnusdaironfroggy , try getting SuperGrubDisk and see if that owrks for you06:53
fit4lfe_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34912/06:53
fit4lfe_can someone help me this one !06:54
magnusdaironfroggy , it should be able to restore your boot record, evne if it's in dual boot with windows06:54
magnusdaironfroggy , *even06:54
dipeshironfroggy: e.g. a grub config that points to the wrong kernel could also be the reason...06:54
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intelikeyironfroggy what setup you got ?06:55
freet15pacman, bye06:55
ironfroggyno dual boot. one harddrive, one partition, installing grub to the MBR. its at hda. very very vanilla setup.06:55
dipeshironfroggy: if you select the item from the grubmenu and press "e" you are able to see+edit the boot-params...06:55
intelikeyironfroggy hmmmm not bios mismatched is it ?06:56
intelikeygrub can only boot what bios can boot06:56
ironfroggydipesh: i cant get to the grub menu.06:56
dipeshuh06:57
ironfroggyintelikey: no, the bios is able to boot the disc, otherwise i wouldnt be getting any grub messages when it does so.06:57
magnusdaironfroggy , personally I'd give SGD a try, unless someone says that it can do more harm than good :)06:57
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dipeshironfroggy: that sounds like something went wrong with the grub-install then06:58
intelikeyi.e.  if bios doesn't correctly recognize the disk/partiton  then grub is hosed       note; reading mbr != reading partition06:58
winbondwhats the command to reconfigure the xserver in 6.10?06:58
dipeshintelikey: as far as I understood it, it was working for ironfroggy before, or?06:58
kai..are there any java devel in here?06:58
intelikeywinbond sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:58
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winbondintelikey: ty06:58
dipeshkai: y06:59
fit4lfe_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34912/06:59
intelikeydipesh & ironfroggy  i don't know how big that disk is but a boot partition might be the answer.06:59
kaibecasue I need help setting up my kate for javac06:59
kaiBut I can't find the sdk and the jdk didn't either when I downloaded it from java.sun06:59
dipeshintelikey: y, true... could also be a prob. but iirc "grub-install" should print a warning in that case, or?07:00
intelikeyfit4lfe_ i know a hack.07:00
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ironfroggyi have reinstalled grub many dozens of times. it was working fine, until i tried to install edgy.07:01
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dipeshKaiHanari: try clicking "Java SE" on java.sun.com (in the right under download)07:02
dipeshkai I meaned07:02
kaiI did that already07:02
kaiI got the net beans bundle07:02
intelikeyfit4lfe_ sudo mv /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d . && sudo ln -s /bin/true /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d      and re-run your install command.  or just   sudo apt-get install -f       <<< that's a hack it will need undone after wards07:02
kaibut I like to free hand it alot, cus I'm studying for my exam reall soon07:03
dipeshKaiHanari: guess then I still miss the prob; javac works from the Konsole?07:03
fit4lfe_how do I undo it though07:03
KaiHanariwtf07:03
kaiI'll try it again07:03
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intelikeyironfroggy ok that's a repartitioning that went off there?     clean install ?07:04
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intelikeysudo rm /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d && mv invoke-rc.d /usr/sbin07:04
intelikey@ fit4lfe_07:04
kaiI think I may need the java EE sdk and it all works07:04
fit4lfe_thx alot so appreciate it07:05
kaiCus i already have the jdk07:05
fit4lfe_so what  was wrong with it so I can understand07:05
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dipeshKaiHanari: EE is for enterprise development... not needed if you just like to hack e.g. swing or such stuff...07:05
KaiHanariEh?07:05
kaino07:05
dipeshKaiHanari: sorry07:06
ironfroggyintelikey: yeah it was a completely clean install.07:06
kaiI can't use netbeans, it works fine there but when I kate and use javac it sayd bash command not found07:06
dipeshKaiHanari: I meaned kai, but the auto-completion in Kopete seems to choose your nick each time I type ka<tab>07:06
intelikeyit expected invoke-rc.d  command to do something that it didn't do....   man invoke-rc.d   to understand what it does.    so we told the package manager that it did it. so it would not error out.07:06
intelikey@ fit4lfe_07:06
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dipeshKaiHanari: then javac is not in your $PATH...07:07
dipesh*arg*07:07
fit4lfe_thanks so much07:07
dipeshsorry again!07:07
kaihow do i set it?07:07
KaiHanari-_-07:07
kaiI never really found out how the class path works in linux yet07:07
kaiin Suse I could just download the java devel kit and I was good to go07:07
macconlinehi... what software for linux how partition magic?07:08
KaiHanariwell kai has the name im supposed to have anyway, just someone has regged the name with nickserv before i bothered to register it, so i had to change to register07:08
intelikeyironfroggy i'm still betting that the partition is not readable to grub!    for what ever reason.....   and the answer would be a boot partition.   it should be hda1  and less than 2g in size ext2 or 3  and mounted on  /boot07:08
kai..and not knowing how to set the class path screwed me on connecting to mySql07:08
dipeshKaiHanari: "export PATH=/path/to/your/javac:$PATH" and if you like to have it persistent, add e.g. it to your ~/.bash_profile ... also it may a good idea to set export JAVA_HOME=/path/to/your/java/home/directory07:08
ironfroggywait07:08
dipeshkai:07:08
ironfroggyless than 2gb in size? what?07:09
intelikeyyes for the boot partition.07:09
dipeshKaiHanari: "export CLASSPATH=/the/additional/path:$CLASSPATH"07:09
kaiso where ever the jdk installed thats the path?07:09
dipeshy07:09
dipeshKaiHanari: to test it, just copy+paste those "export..." line to your Konsole and look if "javac" is found...07:10
dipesh*arg again*07:10
kaibecasue I had the driver but I never figured out how to set the class path so I had to unjar it in every directory I wanted to use it07:10
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kaiok, one sec07:10
intelikeyi have no problem with the idea of a 50m  boot partition  but some like more room than that. ironfroggy07:10
ironfroggywell i was just using the install defaults with one partition.07:10
intelikeyironfroggy yep   but it's not working for you.    so try something else.07:11
ironfroggyi have. ive tried everything i could think of./07:11
ironfroggyive also tried lilo. ive tried sticking in an old (known to be good) drive as a seperate boot.07:12
ironfroggyive run out of ideas.07:12
intelikeyfirst rule of opensource.  there is not a "right way" there is your way, my way, and another way.07:12
intelikeylilo should boot it.07:12
intelikeylilo can boot things that grub cant07:12
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intelikeysecond rule of opensource.  if it's worth writing it's worth sharing.07:14
ironfroggyit worked before, now it wont. i dunno.07:14
ironfroggygotta get going anywaqy.07:14
kaido I need to restart it?07:14
dipeshkai: nope, linux is not windows :)07:14
dipeshyou only need to restart if you compiled a new kernel and like to use it (but iirc there is also a way to work around that reboot)...07:14
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intelikeythis is not that M$ reboot OS    don't restart the computer to clear the screen.07:15
kaiI put the commands in07:15
kailol07:15
kai...I didnt get any errors or anything but javac still doesnt work...this is where my javac is located /home/kai/jdk1.5.0_09/bin07:16
magnusdahmpf...KDM Theme manager isn't working07:16
intelikeydipesh indeed there are kernel options that allow for loading a new kernel in a running system.... but alas it is affectively the same as a reboot minus the bios post.07:16
dipeshKaiHanari: the "export PATH=...." into the Konsole and _at_the_same_konsole_window_ tried to run e.g. "javac" and it doesn't say "command not found" ?07:16
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kaiAre u serious, I didnt have to do all that last time07:17
kaiIm using the kate terminal07:17
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draeathAnyone know how to get the screensaver control panel in Kubuntu to show ALL the configuration? It seems that I have no way to specify things like colormap, fading, image/text/video sources etc07:17
dipeshintelikey: there was a project something like 2 years or so ago that was able to replace the loaded kernel in the mem... don't know if how far it was or if the code was merged into the kernel...07:18
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intelikeydipesh we're probably talking about the same thing.   what i read was in the kernel docs.07:18
dipeshKaiHanari: and it doesn't say "command not found" any longer? then it's working now :)07:18
dipesheh... now Kopete replaces kai: with KaiH... hmmm...07:19
kailol07:19
dipeshintelikey: but then it's not the same as a reboot since e.g. services don't need to be restarted07:20
dipeshor?07:20
dipeshKaiHanari: test07:20
dipeshdamn, something wired is going on...07:21
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intelikeydipesh actually the services and running apps are not saved,  so...07:21
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draeathAnyone know how to get the screensaver control panel in Kubuntu to show ALL the configuration? It seems that I have no way to specify things like colormap, fading, image/text/video sources etc07:22
dipeshintelikey: "not saved"?07:22
dipesh"kai": so, java+javac works now?07:23
intelikeydipesh it would be desasterous to insert loaded kernel modules into another kernel that could be major versions apart07:23
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intelikeydipesh it's the : used as a autocomplete char i suspect07:23
kaino07:24
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kaiI don't Im on sun.com right now07:25
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williamok ive installed kubuntu 6.10 and I love it, but the user i set up, seems to be root, do I need to add a weaker user? or am I only psuedo root?07:25
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intelikeywilliam you are root jr.07:25
intelikey!sudo | william07:26
ubotuwilliam: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:26
ironfroggycould any odd hardware problems cause grub to fail booting as im seeing?07:26
intelikeyand yes a weeker user might be a good idea.07:26
ironfroggyconsidering that i have the exact same problem across multiple fress installs on this box?07:26
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intelikeyironfroggy yes.  but i still think if there is anyway to make a manual entry in the bios (with some bios's there is not)  you should set the disk pramaters  cyl/head/sect  correctly.07:28
williami keep trying to install the java plugin , and it just hangs on a screen asking to click ok, but it doesnt let me click07:28
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dipeshintelikey: well, if the kernel got really replaced in the mem + all old modules are unloaded + matching modules of the new kernel are loaded + ... :-) anyway, noone sayed it's useful to try it to save such kind of reboots ;)07:28
kaithis blows, i can't java anything07:28
Jucatowilliam: don't use Adept when installing Sun Java07:29
ironfroggyintelikey: i dont know if its relevent, but i never had this problem until i installed an ubuntu based distro on this box. ive been running other flavors on it for over half a decade.07:29
intelikeydipesh "matching modules of the new kernel"  assumes a lot of backward compatability.   linux is not famous for that.07:29
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williambut what about the plugin for firefox?07:29
Jucatowilliam: use "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin" in Konsole to install that07:30
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intelikeyironfroggy it's alos quite possable that ubuntu didn't set the disk parameters correctly and thus wrote a non-sensical partition.07:30
dipesh"kai": so, what does not work? what kind of errormessage you get now on "javac"?07:30
kaicommand not found07:30
dipesh"kai": then the path you defined at export PATH="..." is wrong and to download another package from java.sun.com wan't solve it...07:31
intelikeyironfroggy either way.  one thing seems obvious  bios and linux are not in agreement about how to read your disk.07:31
momalAnyone know good program like Nero Vision for windows? | I need simple menu/chapter support07:31
ironfroggyintelikey: if that was the case, how is it getting past grub stage 1?07:31
kaiI never had to set the class path before, Suse did it for me I guess07:31
ironfroggyintelikey: if that was the case, wouldnt it have trouble even finding the bootloader?07:31
momalAnyone know good program like Nero Vision? but one good with linux :) | I need simple menu/chapter support07:32
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intelikeyironfroggy no.  that's in the mbr07:32
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dipesh"kai": let's say you installed netbeams in "/opt/nb" ... and your javac is in "/opt/nb/java/bin/javac"... then it should look like "export PATH="/opt/nb/java/bin:$PATH"07:32
intelikeyfirst 512 bites of the disk07:32
ironfroggyintelikey: ok so you are saying the problem is that the stage1 loader is looking for the stage1.5 loader in the wrong place? make sense.07:32
kaido I have to do that every single time I restart my comp?07:33
intelikeythat's what i'm saying07:33
williamstill doesnt work, hangs on a java screen asking to click ok07:33
Jucatowilliam: in Konsole?07:33
kaiI had that problem07:33
williamyes in konsole07:33
ironfroggyintelikey: is there a way to inspect where grub thinks they are and to inspect the actual location on disk of a file's inode, so i can discover this?07:33
kaiwilliam: fixit using the cli07:33
Jucatowilliam: use your keyboard to select OK, and hit Enter07:34
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dipesh"kai": nope. once it works you are able to put the lines e.g. into your ~/.bash_profile ...07:34
kaiJucato: in the package install it won;t wokr07:34
kaidipesh: wheres the bash profile located?07:34
Jucatokai: I know. I'm the one who told him to use apt-get07:34
williamoh that is so totally lame07:35
kaimy bad07:35
williambut it worked07:35
ironfroggyany idea what exit code 20 means for grub-reinstall?07:35
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intelikeyironfroggy yes.  but don't get me started lying about how...   hehhe    one could use a hex editor and look at the hd dirrectly.      or something like  dd if=/dev/hda count=128 | hd | less         you might want to increase the count  idk07:36
kaiI can put the export path anywhere? Doesnt matter07:36
dipesh"kai": in "~" what is your homedirectory (so, e.g. /home/myusername/.bash_profile) ... cause the filename starts with a point, it's a hidden file (for the case you wonder that you don't see it in konqi).07:37
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ironfroggyintelikey: is there anyway to remedy a system that seems to be having such weird faults?07:37
ironfroggymaybe some flags to give grub?07:37
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intelikeyironfroggy the old nortons utility could even let you read dirrectly.07:37
kaidipesh: I found, I need to put it in the if/fi statements right?07:38
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dipesh"kai": just put it at the bottom and it should work... the .bash_profile is readed+executed if you login, normaly by the .bashrc file...07:38
intelikeyironfroggy yes maybe but you need to get linux and bios to agree on the disk stats  if possable   that's the answer in a nut-shell07:38
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dipesh"kai": in what if-statements? well, just put it at the bottom outside of any if-statement07:38
kaiI was only askin cus theres to if statements and I wasnt sure if it had to go some where specific07:38
kaiok07:38
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ironfroggyintelikey: well is there a way to discover which one is wrong?07:40
intelikeycorrect which ever is not in agreement with the info on the hd it's self.... the sticker has always held the disk cyl/head/sect info.   check it and compare bios.  if that's correct you need to make linux agree with them before you install so the partitioning will be correct.07:40
intelikeypull the cover and read the sticker07:41
ironfroggyugh oh god07:41
ironfroggythis case is so crappy i actually have to dismantle the case itself to be able to remove the harddrive.07:41
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ironfroggyill just find a way to cheat07:41
intelikeyyuch.....07:41
Search4Lancerwhat's the format for including username and password in an FTP URL?07:42
intelikeygot docs on the hd ?07:42
intelikeyowners manual07:42
williami know p2p is probly off topic, but can anyone tell me a good client for kubuntu?07:42
ironfroggyin the past for backups ive actually run IDE cables out of the case and into another box, just to avoid removing the disk.07:42
dipesh"kai": you may also like to take a look at http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/essential/environment/paths.html ... there it's more logical explained + examples are shown. May useful to understand why it's needed + how classpath's are working, etc.07:42
intelikeywebsearch the manufacture ?07:42
kaidipesh: ok, Im on it07:42
Search4Lanceror, can anyone give me a better FTP client than Kasablanca or filerunner?07:42
dipeshwilliam: kmldonkey is nice :)07:43
williamgftp?07:43
intelikeyironfroggy hehhe i have an ide cable sticking out of a box.... :)   but just cause i don't have usb ports on it and no usb cradle for an ide drive....07:43
intelikeySearch4Lancer kftp gftp ncftp ftp sftp....07:44
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dipeshSearch4Lancer: konqueror also supports ftp... just put "ftp://whatever.com" into the locationbar... it also works transparently from within _any_ KDE-application (e.g. open Kate, choose File open and put there ftp://... into the locationbar. If you save the open file, it will be automaticly saved on the ftp-server.07:45
intelikeys/kftp/kftpgrabber/07:45
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Search4Lancerthanks07:45
housemanhello everyone07:45
intelikeyyes and so does mozilla   and most other web browsers07:45
intelikeymc  does ftp too iirc07:46
chupa-chupshello every body iam  just ttrying to install newer vergion of msn and iam being asked for mirror would u tell me what is mirror ???????????????07:46
housemanhas anyone tried to install Octave on kubuntu07:46
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dipeshintelikey: except that konqi is not a webbrowser nor is the ftp-code related to konqi...07:46
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chupa-chupshouseeman - what does it do07:46
intelikeydipesh konqueror is a web browesr07:47
housemanit is a mathbased language used for engineering07:47
intelikeyand file manager.07:47
housemanit is similar to Matlab07:47
chupa-chupsoh thanx07:47
housemani tried the package manager but it says it would cause breaks07:47
dipeshintelikey: it's a container for any kpart... the webbrowser is khtml which has the khtml_part-kpart used to display html-pages within e.g. konqi. But you could also use e.g. kmldonkey to browse through the web ;)07:47
chupa-chupscould i find free download of autocad07:47
housemanso i am doing an upgrade and going to try it again07:48
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intelikeydipesh oh konqi.07:48
housemanidk autocad07:48
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chupa-chupsfrom where ??????????] 07:48
housemanchupa-chups, are you talking to me about autocad?07:49
chupa-chupsyes07:49
housemani dont know anything about autocad07:49
chupa-chupsmmmmmmmmmm07:49
housemani am trying to get Octave to work07:50
chupa-chupsso waht is idk autocad07:50
chupa-chupsthe same pro?????07:50
housemanno, it is like a program called Matlab.07:50
chupa-chupsic07:50
chupa-chupsso would i ask u about something07:51
housemansure. but i am kinda new07:51
chupa-chups iam  just ttrying to install newer vergion of msn and iam being asked for mirror would u tell me what is mirror ???????????????07:51
intelikeydipesh but that's like saying mozilla is not a web browser....    by that standard, it's not.  it's the window that the browser or the mail reader or the composer or .... runs in.07:51
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housemana mirror is a site that helps reduce heavy traffic loads by offering the same download in multiple servers07:52
robotgeekhouseman: i would recommend using koctave07:52
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housemani tried that robotgeek07:52
housemanit says break in install07:52
chupa-chups ok if iam from egypt would i select north america for example07:52
housemansure07:52
robotgeekhouseman: weird, can you paste (http://rafb.net/paste) the whole message07:52
chupa-chups thnk u very much07:53
dipeshintelikey: well... the part that does render html-pages (so khtml) is not the same that does render ftp...07:53
housemannot right now, i am running a whole system upgrade to make sure dependincies are met07:53
intelikeydipesh to the user it's all one.07:54
housemanno prob chupa07:54
dipeshintelikey: y, absolutly true.07:54
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housemanrobotgeek: have you used Matlab and koctave07:55
robotgeekhouseman: yes, matlab not on linux thoughh07:55
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intelikeyrobotgeek why rafb ?     just wondering... cause ubuntu has an official pastebin.07:56
dipeshintelikey: and that's the great thing. while it looks as beeing the same, under the hood it's all component-based and could be reused at just any application with just some lines of code. damn cool technique.07:56
housemanrobotgeek: have you ever seen koctave?07:56
robotgeekintelikey: well, that is what is in my autocomplete list :)07:56
oliver_hi07:56
robotgeekhouseman: yes07:56
housemandoes it look like matlab does in windows?07:57
robotgeekhouseman: look?07:57
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oliver_has someone successfully compiled dazuko07:57
housemannvrmind, i am going to the homepage too see koctave07:58
robotgeekhouseman: not very similiar07:58
intelikeydipesh and if they didn't try so hard to make everything "just work" with automounting like M$ i'd really like it.    as it stands i tolerate it i guess.07:58
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magnusda_intelikey , I think the automounting feature of KDE is awesome. If Linux is ever going to be able to really go mainstream it needs to "just work" :)08:00
dipeshintelikey: or just disable it like I did on my desktop-system :)08:00
intelikeymagnusda_ then i hope linux "never really goes mainstream"08:00
intelikeyi hate M$ xp   and if linux ever becomes like it, i'll find something else to use.08:01
dipeshintelikey: at the end it's all about beeing able to use a feature or don't use it. The user is able to decide while the distributor defines what is enabled/disabled by default...08:01
kaidipesh: I got it to work but everytime I close the console I have to do it it again08:02
magnusda_intelikey , like dipesh said. Just disable it. It's hard to explain to someone why they cannot use their USB keys without getting involved with a console and such08:02
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intelikeydipesh that's not so true for xp  and that's why i hate it so much.    well that and the eula     and the price    and ....08:02
housemanrobotgeek: i haven't compiled anything on kubuntu before, but i have had experience with it in slack, do you think i should try to compile koctave and octave?08:02
dipesh"kai": and you did put it into your ~/.bash_profile ? hmmm...08:02
robotgeekhouseman: hmm, no need really.08:02
kaidipesh: right now I'm in my .bash_profile its still not working system wide08:03
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robotgeekhouseman: i think you will need to compile libaltas, etc etc, which can be quite painful08:03
dipeshintelikey: same here + the politic + the missing freedom + the missing sourcecode + .... :)08:03
housemanrobotgeek: how so, the package manager wont do it for me08:03
housemanoh08:03
housemanic08:03
intelikeymagnusda_ you don't have to get involved with the cli   a script would be fine.  just point and click to mount things.....   would be much better imo than automounting if you don't want it mounted.08:03
robotgeekhouseman: not compile it for you08:03
kai...is there anything else Im missing08:04
housemanrobotgeek: I'll keep trying the packages08:04
intelikeybut magnusda_ i'm through discussing it.08:04
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housemanrobotgeek: does the dpkg tool work well08:04
robotgeekhouseman: apt-get works extremely well08:05
magnusda_intelikey , alright, I won't reply, then.08:05
dipesh"kai": eh, the .bash_profile is only for the user... /etc/profile is for system-wide stuff (so, for all users)...08:05
housemanrobotgeek: ok, thanks08:05
intelikeymagnusda_ reply if you wish  but i'm finished.08:05
kaioh08:06
kaidipesh: oops08:06
kailemme try again08:06
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housemanrobotgeek: what do you use Matlab for?08:07
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intelikeywell maybe i'm not.   i have one other thing to add.    i like the way linux works "without a gui running".   but when starting a gui changes the way things are working, it pisses me off.08:08
robotgeekhouseman: i dont use it anymore, but i used to use the control systems toolbox extensively08:08
kaidipesh: Do I put the exact same thing in the profile?08:08
dipesh"kai": y08:08
korielhow can I add kubuntu features like transparency in windows, changing desktop with wheel mouse, smoothing dragging windows etc08:08
koriel?08:08
magnusda_intelikey , no need to reply if I'm the only one reading it ;)08:08
kaidipesh: For setting the class path08:08
intelikey:)08:09
kaiPATH=/home/kai/jdk1.5.0_09/bin: export path?08:09
kaithats it?08:09
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intelikeykai no08:09
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intelikeykai add  :$PATH08:09
dipeshintelikey: well, at linux GUI and console are working together pretty good. So, you are able to control GUI-apps from the konsole...08:10
kaiwhat is it supposed to look like?08:10
kaiPATH=/home/kai/jdk1.5.0_09/bin: $PATH?08:10
intelikeyno space08:10
korielkai: you can do something like that ln -s /home/kai/jdk1.5.0_09/bin/java /usr/bin/java and the same for javac08:10
intelikeyand you shoudl quote it.08:11
ironfroggyWTF08:11
dipesh"kai" plus the "export" part like described at the sun-page I posted before...08:11
intelikeykoriel and that will need sudo08:11
ironfroggyso i went to install lilo, and i reboot and what do i see?08:11
ironfroggynow its made it all the way to grub stage 2 before locking up!08:11
korieloh he is not a sudoer?08:11
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ironfroggydoes that even count as some weird kind of progress?08:11
dipeshkoriel: but that does not solve the classpath-prob ;)08:11
intelikeyironfroggy lol   no08:11
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korielsorry I didn't read the whole conversation, my bad08:12
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ironfroggyseriously, wtf?!08:12
kaiIm confused again08:12
kai PATH=/home/kai/jdk1.5.0_09/bin: $PATH08:12
kaiso thats not right?08:12
kai PATH=/home/kai/jdk1.5.0_09/bin:export $PATH08:12
intelikeyexport PATH="/home/kai/jdk1.5.0_09/bin:$PATH"08:12
kaithats what I put the first time08:12
kaioh08:12
kaidamnit08:12
intelikeyone command is better than two08:13
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kaii need the ""?08:14
qbithrmmm - this new kvirc took out the "" - it was pasted08:14
intelikeyremember the second rule of opensource,   there is not a 'right way'  there are many ways.  your way, my way, another way,  maybe even a better way.    but not a "right way"08:14
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qbitlol - any way that gets it done   :-)08:14
kaiok08:15
dipesh:)08:15
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kaiI just put export PATH=/home/kai/jdk1.5.0_09/bin:$PATH08:15
qbitresin is about the only thing I run that really seems to need to find the jdk08:15
kaiim my et/profile and when I javac it still say command not found08:15
intelikeythat should work  but you should always quote thing with $ in them08:15
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intelikeyyou only read etc/profile on login.08:16
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intelikeylogout and try again.08:16
dipesh"kai": cause you don't relogin, the /etc/profile is not readed... so, for now you may like to "source /etc/profile" ... later not needed cause then /etc/profile will be readed on login...08:16
chupa-chupshi all08:16
kaiso I do have to restart?08:16
TheBlunderbussHi there.  Do I need to write the LiveCD to a CDR or can I write to CDRW?08:16
intelikeyno just lobin08:16
intelikeylogin08:17
kaievery one made fun of me about that08:17
kaiSo just re-login?08:17
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intelikeyyep08:17
kaiok, gravy08:17
qbitTheBlunderbuss: CDRW is what I just used to install Edgy08:17
kaiI will be back in 508:17
chupa-chups wht program should pay files .wav08:17
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chupa-chups sorry , what program should play files .wav08:18
housemanchuppa: amarok, xmms08:18
intelikeydipesh and yes i know . /etc/profile would initiate that for one shell  but imo better to let him login so it's user wide.08:18
chupa-chupsthey dont want to08:18
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housemanthat is strange08:18
dipeshintelikey: y, true :)08:18
housemando any sounds play?08:19
chupa-chupswhat can i do for that08:19
chupa-chupsany extensions08:19
housemanyeah, will any sound file play at all08:19
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chupa-chupswait08:20
intelikeydipesh hehhe also if peradventure there was a space in $PATH  snit will go to ned and he'll learn why you quote things like that   lol08:20
ironfroggyugh now i get as far as 'LI' on boot08:20
chupa-chupsanother song .wav is played now08:20
TheBlunderbussThanks qbit08:20
chupa-chupsi dont know08:20
housemanthat is strange08:20
chupa-chupshe is playing some and the other not08:20
housemanperhaps some of them are corrupted08:21
chupa-chupsno they are played all under window08:21
chupa-chupsno they are played all under windows08:21
dipeshintelikey: I still remember the time I was starting with linux and I made exactly the same mistakes... but it's really a good way to learn the basics :)08:21
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dipesh(like taking care of evil spaces :)08:22
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intelikeyall electronics run on smoke.    "snit > ned" ==  "smoke not in this noise emiting diode"      technitions joke.08:22
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intelikeypronounced "snit went to ned"  ^08:23
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qbitchupa-chups: iirc maybe not all .wav files in windows are necessarily in the same codec format08:25
qbitso even though they'll all play in windows there are some that won't in non-windows08:25
intelikeyshould be one of two formats  but the bit rates can very greatly   iirc08:26
qbitI've seen that before08:26
intelikeyand .wav is supported in linux without propritary "codecs"     is it not ?08:28
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qbitwell I've always installed the extra-codecs package immediately on install so I don't know if it does/doesn't with a default install08:29
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qbitbut I have seen .wav files that would play in windows that won't play in any other *nix system, ie FreeBSD, Linux, or Solaris08:30
xsachawont play without proprietary ?08:30
qbitin other words I wanted him to know that it's probably the particular .wavs themselves and not his system, per se08:31
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chupa-chupsthere is another problim08:32
xsachahow do you install extra-codecs ?08:32
xsachalike where do i get it08:32
chupa-chupsok continu then i will tell the next problim08:32
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qbitadd the multi lines to your sources.list08:32
chupa-chups???????????08:32
qbitI think it's an FAQ and a bot help thingy08:33
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chupa-chupsi know how to reach sources list by command line but what is multi lines08:33
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qbitthey won't package the extra-codecs with the base system 'cause of proprietary nonsense08:33
ironfroggywith "GRUB Read Error" what might it have an error reading and why?08:33
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chupa-chupsthe next problim is : my movies .avi and .asf dont want to be playded too08:34
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intelikeypartition.  invalid/improper block size08:34
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qbithttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34920/08:34
intelikey!mp3 | chupa-chups08:35
ubotuchupa-chups: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:35
qbithere's mine for an example - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34920/08:35
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qbitoops - sorry 'bout hitting it twice  :-)08:35
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chupa-chupsok ok thank u for help08:36
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ironfroggyalso, i got this error specifically when i tried to install grub to a floppy (i am suspecting there is definately some issue with my bios and harddrive.08:36
qbityou see the universe lines, just make another set like them with multiverse, refresh and you should be able to pull in the w32codecs package08:38
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qbiti think that's where they live08:38
intelikeywhy not just add multiverse to that line ?08:38
intelikeyanyway.08:39
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qbitget libxine-extracodecs too08:39
intelikeymy sources.list is four lines long.08:39
qbityeah - mine could definitely stand a good cleaning08:39
wonderboyhello all08:40
qbitit's kind of been cut and pasted for a while08:40
qbitit's sloppy08:40
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wonderboyis somebody here who use kubuntu?08:40
wonderboy!!!08:40
kruemelteesure08:40
intelikeycorrection.  i removed the extra one that had the non-free stuff  it's only three lines long now.08:41
wonderboyI want a program like odc++08:41
qbitclean is good, I should really clean mine up too   :-)08:41
wonderboya name08:41
kruemelteewonderboy, whats odc++?08:41
wonderboy!08:41
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main universe multiverse08:41
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main universe multiverse08:41
intelikeydeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main universe multiverse08:41
wonderboydc++08:41
intelikeyclean  ^08:41
wonderboyu don't know08:41
dipeshdirect connect?08:42
kruemelteesorry, no ... but wait a second08:42
Jucatoyou don't have restricted, intelikey?08:42
intelikeyno08:42
wonderboyyup08:42
intelikeydon't need or want it08:42
Jucatofigures :)08:42
intelikeybut could be added to each line if needed08:42
wonderboyis a download program08:42
Jucatointelikey: you probably don't need it, as most stuff in restricted are kernel related, and you compile your own, right?08:43
dipeshwonderboy: afaik mldonkey also supports directconnect and has with kmldonkey a nice gui...08:43
intelikeydoes kinda figure, don't it Jucato.....  :)    guess i never thought of it.08:43
Jucatoheh :)08:43
wonderboyis somebody who know?08:43
intelikeyJucato yes rolled my own.08:43
kruemelteeI think dipesh already told you, wonderboy08:44
qbitmy restricted was for the xen module08:44
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intelikeywonderboy what did you say dc++ is ?08:44
wonderboysorry i was to the bath08:44
wonderboywere08:44
wonderboyyes08:44
dipesh08:44:53 < dipesh >  wonderboy: afaik mldonkey also supports directconnect and has with kmldonkey a nice gui...08:45
kruemeltee:-) "wonderboy: afaik mldonkey also supports directconnect and has with kmldonkey a nice gui..."08:45
Bubba_Gump<intelikey> Jucato yes rolled my own. < that's a smoker talking, right there ;)08:45
Jucatohahah08:45
intelikeyBubba_Gump you would have been correct many years ago.08:45
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Bubba_Gump:)08:45
Bubba_Gumpthe language stays :D08:46
wonderboymldonkey08:46
wonderboythis is it?08:46
intelikeyBubba_Gump the knowledge stays to... but from it all i am now free08:46
dipeshwonderboy: a p2p-app that supports different protocols like torrent, donkey, dc, ...08:46
Bubba_Gumpcool08:46
Bubba_Gumpi used to smoke too08:46
Bubba_Gumptwo years now :)08:46
Jucatosmoke what? that is the question :)08:47
Bubba_Gumpheheheh08:47
wonderboyi want to download from my network08:47
intelikeyJucato by the carton and by the pound   take your pick.08:47
Jucatolol08:47
krautmoin08:48
intelikeybut like the ex i didn't inhale08:48
intelikeyex-prez  is should specify08:48
dipeshwonderboy: should be np since ml has options for just everything. but I never tried the dc-support on ml, so I don't know how far the implementation is...08:49
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kruemelteewonderboy, i found dctc ... but it has no gui, it's text-based08:49
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wonderboyk08:49
wonderboythanks08:49
intelikeywonderboy what kind of dirrect connection you looking for ?08:49
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intelikeymost irc clients can dcc08:50
wonderboysomething like dc++ for windows08:50
sungam_has anyone else tried running Songbird? It loads fine, but when I try to play a song in it it just says "Error" where it should print the song title, how much it's played and all that08:50
wonderboyi don't know if u used befor08:50
makishi everybody08:51
intelikeywonderboy rather than me going looking for what that is just tell me what it does08:51
intelikeyi don't do windows08:51
wonderboyi do08:51
makishas anyone installed a firewall for kubuntu?is it necessary?08:51
Admiral_Chicago!p2p > wonderboy08:51
Admiral_Chicagowonderboy: linux dc++08:51
wonderboydownloads diferent stufs from networks08:51
wonderboysure?08:52
Admiral_Chicagoyea08:52
wonderboyk08:52
wonderboythanks08:52
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intelikeywonderboy emule ?   ktorrents   telnet  ssh/scp    ?08:52
wonderboyi try mldonkey now08:53
kruemelteegood luck wonderboy08:53
wonderboythanks08:53
wonderboyi need it08:53
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intelikeydcgui - Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing)08:53
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intelikeysomething like that ?08:54
intelikeyit's in the repos08:54
wonderboyi think so08:54
intelikey!dcgui08:54
ubotudcgui: Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.80-5 (edgy), package size 432 kB, installed size 1292 kB08:54
intelikeyit's all in knowing what you want to do.08:55
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Alzi2Hey. pseudo-transparency doesn't work in ANY app. Nor Konsole, Nor Crystal (kwin theme) wants to display pseudo-transparency. If I try to enable it and I click OK, when I check back, transparency is still not on... it's annoying. I want proper pseudo-transparency. Anyone?08:56
ironfroggyhow do i install lilo onto a floppy?08:56
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ironfroggyi tried `lilo -M /dev/fd0` after repartitioning the floppy, and it still tells me 'Fatal: /dev/fd0 is not a master device with a primary parition table'08:57
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Alzi2ironfroggy: You gotta format the floppy first.08:57
wonderboywere i can find dcgui?08:57
intelikeylilo-doc - Documentation for LILO (LInux LOader)  <<< i'd have to read... you can do it for me... :)08:58
ironfroggyAlzi2: how do i do that?08:58
ironfroggyAlzi2: i havent used a floppy since i was in grade school.08:58
intelikeymkdosfs /dev/fd008:58
Alzi2ironfroggy: Just right-click the floppy in KDE and select format, OR do this command: 'mkdosfs /dev/fd0'08:58
housemanrobotgeek: i cannot install octave, or koctave08:58
Alzi2intelikey: Can you help me with my problem?08:59
Alzi2Hey. pseudo-transparency doesn't work in ANY app. Nor Konsole, Nor Crystal (kwin theme) wants to display pseudo-transparency. If I try to enable it and I click OK, when I check back, transparency is still not on... it's annoying. I want proper pseudo-transparency. Anyone?08:59
Alzi2(That one)08:59
ironfroggyok i have done that but i get the same error when i try to get lilo to use it08:59
intelikeyAlzi2 fraid knot08:59
Alzi2intelikey: Aww... well, I tried.08:59
intelikeyAlzi2 cli forte08:59
itstaffhi all do you know how to disable a script from starting at boot time08:59
intelikeysorry09:00
intelikeyitstaff update-rc.d09:00
intelikeyman that ^09:00
intelikeybasicly remove the symlink for the runlevel dir that is starting it.09:00
Alzi2intelikey: cli forte>?09:01
ironfroggyOMG my desktop is booting up for the first time in a freaking month. i feel light headed and i think my heart is skipping a few beats!09:01
intelikeyAlzi2 as in gui is not my strong point09:01
Alzi2ironfroggy: Behave.09:01
Alzi2intelikey: Ah, okay... i have both worlds on my side =)09:01
ironfroggyAlzi2: ?09:01
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Alzi2ironfroggy: Command-line and graphical :P09:02
intelikeyironfroggy yep you got a kernel loaded that could do what bios could not.09:02
intelikeyironfroggy we'll have to change you nick to "floppy_boot"09:03
ironfroggyhey whatever works09:03
Chris7mashi09:03
Chris7maswhat package should i install to be able to play flac files with amarok?09:04
Chris7masi'm using kubuntu 6.06 and amarok 1.4.409:04
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intelikeyironfroggy     hdparm -g /dev/hda      and compare with bios09:04
Alzi2https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html09:05
Alzi2Chris7mas: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html09:05
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Chris7masok thanks09:05
unix_infidelhmm, this is odd.09:05
Alzi2no pron09:06
Alzi2prob*09:06
Alzi2lol09:06
unix_infideli cant use alt+num on irssi in vmware with the right altkey09:06
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intelikeyunix_infidel linux in general.  [right alt]  != [left alt] 09:07
unix_infidelintelikey: hmm...09:07
unix_infideli'm usually able to use that keybind without any problems.09:07
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intelikeyunix_infidel i use lots of consoles   L-alt+f1 == tty1    R-alt+f1 == tty13    it may be doing simular in your vmware.09:08
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Chris7masit doesn't work Alzi209:09
unix_lappyintelikey: it's not alt+f0-909:09
unix_lappyits alt+num(0-9)09:09
Alzi2Chris7mas: go to www.ubuntuforums.org and search for 'flac'. If that doesn't help you, go to the Ubuntu wiki and search for 'flac'09:09
intelikeyi know  but the point is  r-alt != l-alt    cause  f1 = f1    duh.09:10
wonderboyis somebody who have instaler of dcgui?09:13
intelikeyhere in this console  in bx  if i press l-alt+1 i get "-:- SWAP: Window 1 is not hidden!"    but R-alt+1 i get""   nothing.....   r-alt+2 "@"   l-alt+2 "-:- SWAP: No such window: 2"    and so on....09:13
wonderboyi can't find it09:13
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intelikeywonderboy it's in universe09:13
intelikey!repos09:13
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:13
intelikey!universe09:14
wonderboyin univers?09:14
intelikeyread the link ^09:14
ironfroggyintelikey: what if my bios doesnt display the geometry its using?09:14
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wonderboyi'm from romania09:14
wonderboywhat link09:14
wonderboy?09:14
j_what is the moodbar thing in Amarok?09:14
intelikeyironfroggy that makes it harder to trubble shoot09:14
j_anyone tried it?09:15
intelikeywonderboy  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:15
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kruemelteewonderboy, http://dcgui.berlios.de/index.php09:15
itstaffintelikey, thanks for the help09:15
wonderboyk09:15
intelikeyitstaff np09:15
wonderboyand what i download from here09:15
kruemelteeits called DCGui09:16
intelikeywonderboy you use the package manager09:16
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wonderboyIs my first time whan i use kuntubu09:16
wonderboyi don't know what u mean09:16
kruemelteewonderboy ... try the following09:17
intelikeybut first read the link   "URL"   "web page"     it tells you how to enable the universe repository.09:17
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kruemelteesudo apt-get install dcgui09:17
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black_13_what happend to xorgcfg?09:17
intelikeykruemeltee help him enable universe then tell him that.09:17
wonderboypls help me09:17
intelikeyblack_13_ that's in another distor09:18
kruemelteeokay, intelikey09:18
intelikeydistro09:18
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black_13_which?09:18
wonderboyi see here a Download, but say someting about Stable and CVS09:18
intelikeyidk black_13_09:18
black_13_idk?09:19
intelikeyblack_13_ the command you want is   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:19
intelikeyidk=i don't know09:19
black_13_the command hasnt produced a wokring xorg.config09:19
wonderboyis somebody who wnat to help me?09:20
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black_13_xorg.conf09:20
intelikeythen you haven't answered the questions correctly.09:20
kruemelteewonderboy ... what version of kubuntu do you have? edgy eft?09:20
wonderboyI don't know09:20
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kruemelteekubuntu 6.06 (Dapper) or 6.10 (edgy eft)09:20
wonderboyversion 6.06 LTS09:20
kruemelteeokay ...09:21
black_13_you know the old xorgcfg worked great09:21
kruemelteewonderboy, go on http://schimana.net/ubuntu-sourceslist/09:21
black_13_what about all that open source freedom?09:21
kruemelteewonderboy, there you'll find a file called sources.list09:21
wonderboyk09:22
intelikeyblack_13_ things like 'use kernel frame buffering'  say no.    and on the monitor section don't select simple   set it up right.   even go to monitorworld.com and get you crt's specs if you have to09:22
kruemeltee(you have to use the dapper dake sources.list) ...09:22
intelikeyblack_13_ and also user vesa driver     say no.09:22
kruemelteewonderboy, use a terminal ... logon as root ... (sudo su ... password)09:22
wonderboyand how i do that09:23
j_soo, anyone have any idea about that Moodbar thing?09:23
intelikeyblack_13_ if you answer the questions correctly it will work.09:23
||arifaXHi, I setup my machine for dual screen with xinerama. now x always starts with 1280x1024 instead of 1400x1050. I can change it to 1400 but will not stay. Any ideas? Intel 945 (i915resolution)09:23
j_what is it, what does it do?09:23
kruemelteewonderboy, edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list and replace it with the file you find on the web site09:23
black_13_the i keep getting screens found but none have a usable configuration09:23
ironfroggywhat do i need to install to mount cifs volumes?09:23
kruemelteeokay ... step by step09:23
kruemelteeplease open a terminal wonderboy09:23
j_!moodbar09:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about moodbar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:24
intelikeyblack_13_ you have that freedom.  install XFree86 is you like.   but don't expect much help here if you are not using "kubuntu" defaults....09:24
kruemelteewonderboy, now type "sudo su"09:24
kruemelteewonderboy, after that you have to enter the root password09:24
wonderboywait09:24
kruemelteewonderboy, now you are logged in as root ...09:24
intelikeyblack_13_ what kind of display you got ?09:25
wonderboyi can't fint etc/apt/soureces.list09:25
intelikeyblack_13_ crt or lcd ?09:25
black_13_lcd09:25
kruemelteewonderboy, okay ... within the root console please type "updatedb" and wait09:26
intelikeykruemeltee slocate   yuch....09:26
black_13_the problem is that this computer is a dell pizza box it has a built in video i replace that with an aftermarket pci ati video card09:26
intelikeyyeah  ati.....09:27
kruemelteeintelikey, slocate? i just use locate (after updatedb) ... or is this wrong?09:27
wonderboyman...09:27
intelikeykruemeltee same thing09:27
wonderboyis hard09:27
j_moodbar colors your mp3s09:27
j_how useless09:27
wonderboywere is root console?09:27
kruemelteeintelikey, that means, slocate is the same like first running updatedb and finally locate?09:27
wonderboyin menu09:28
wonderboy?09:28
kruemelteewonderboy, just open a console ...09:28
black_13_i keep getting Readeon no valid modes present and Screen(s) found, but none have usable configuraion09:28
intelikeykruemeltee yes and same database too.   just a different parsor  maybe... not even sure locate isn't a symlink to slocate09:28
black_13_and i had xorg working on this computer09:28
kruemelteewonderboy, similiar to terminal ... if you got a terminal/console open please tell me09:29
wonderboyman, plese tell me were is this, i just worked with windows until now09:30
intelikeyblack_13_ why not pastebin the xorg.conf  let me see if i notice the problem09:30
kruemelteewonderboy, do you use KDE or GNOME?09:30
wonderboy>09:30
wonderboy?09:30
black_13_sure09:30
j_wonderboy, hit the menu button  then System -> Konsole09:30
black_13_ill have to move it around09:30
wonderboyk09:31
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wonderboyis kde09:31
wonderboyk09:32
wonderboynext09:32
kruemelteewonderboy, type "sudo su"09:32
wonderboyi prin terminal?09:32
hyper_chhow can I make an ISO file from a cd wie k3b?09:32
wonderboysorry09:32
intelikeyin konsole   sudo -i09:32
Jucatokruemeltee: "sudo -i" is the preferred way09:32
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wonderboyi give him Use a different terminal program?09:33
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intelikeykruemeltee if you must use both at least add "-"     sudo su -      so it will be real root  not root using users env.09:33
wonderboyan i write sudo su09:34
wonderboy?09:34
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dipeshhyper_ch: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Burning_ISOs_in_Linux_K3B09:34
wonderboyand then?09:34
kruemelteeintelikey, I never find out that using "sudo su" openes a root account with users env. ...09:34
dipeshhyper_ch: btw one of the first results if you search for "k3b iso" with a earchengine like e.g. google...09:35
hyper_chdipesh: I have a CD and want to make an ISO... not vice versa09:35
kruemelteewonderboy, enter ... then you have to enter the root password09:35
hyper_chmaking a cd from an iso is simple... but I just can't find an option "make cd copy" and "save to "disk" instead of "burn cd"09:36
wonderboythere i write?09:36
dipeshhyper_ch: ah, guess I miss-read the question then :)09:36
black_13_intelisense http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/4hnKHx30.html09:36
naught101what the best ftpclient for kubuntu? usually use gftp, but it keeps crashing...09:36
kruemelteewonderboy, your root password you entered on installing kubuntu09:36
intelikeynick completion.... :)09:36
wonderboyI have there terminal, I pres use a different terminal program an d i write sudo su09:37
wonderboylike this?09:37
kruemelteeif you enter "sudo su" you may get the prompt "password?" ... so you have to enter the system-root-password you normally set on installing Kubuntu ...09:37
j_anyone here do vector graphics with linux?09:37
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wonderboyand were i write the root password09:37
dipeshhyper_ch: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CD_Burning#Making_an_iso-image_from_an_existing_cd ... don't know how it works with k3b :-/09:38
kruemelteewonderboy, if you dont get the prompt "password?" there may be something like "root@yourmachine >"09:38
wonderboyiand09:38
kruemelteewonderboy, if so, you don't have to enter the root password ...09:38
wonderboyk09:39
nrdbnewbie question, how do I print (i.e on paper) the output of a terminal command ? where do I pipe it ?09:39
wonderboynext09:39
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j_there are at least 5 different vector graphics proggies in the repositories09:39
intelikeyblack_13_ line 98 99 that doesn't look like lcd settings...  mine is crt so maybe some one else can confirm.09:39
dipeshblack_13_: intelikey: why not just boot from a kubuntu-livecd and copy over the xorg.conf ?09:39
kruemelteeless /etc/apt/sources.list09:40
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intelikeydipesh he can  but isn't that vesa ?09:40
hyper_chsorry, dropped out09:40
intelikeybeing lcd it may work just as well,  idk09:40
kruemelteewonderboy, if you get a output so you can read your current "sources.list"09:40
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kruemelteewonderboy, now go on the website I've told you ...09:41
kruemelteewonderboy, with the help of your browser09:41
wonderboywait09:41
intelikeydipesh do you have lcd ?09:41
dipeshintelikey: doesn't kubuntu's hw-detection should use the matching driver + generate the matching xorg.conf? at least it was working for me fine that way on other systems.09:42
wonderboywere is this less /etc/apt/sources.list09:42
dipeshy, let me check my xorg.conf :)09:42
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intelikeydipesh http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/4hnKHx30.html <--- that's his'n09:43
kruemelteewonderboy, just type "less /etc/apt/sources.list" at the command line ... then press enter so you max get the output of the file "sources.list" ... if so, everything is okay09:43
wonderboyi don't know wre to type that09:43
wonderboywere is that command line?09:44
kruemelteewonderboy, at the command line within the console ... or the terminal09:44
Jucatowonderboy: K Menu -> System -> Konsole09:44
wonderboyk there09:44
black_13_intelikey so whats the deal09:45
intelikeyblack_13_ sec. dipesh is comparing notes too.09:45
wonderboywait a secon because I havekontubu in romanian and is not perfect translated09:45
kruemelteeokay ...09:46
JucatoI wonder..09:46
Jucato!ro09:46
ubotuDaca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro.09:46
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Jucatois that romanian?09:46
wonderboyyes09:46
wonderboywhy?09:46
wonderboyu are from romania?09:46
Jucatoyou might want to check out if some people are there who could help you, too09:46
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Jucatonope, I'm not09:46
wonderboyk09:47
kruemelteeJucato, :-)09:47
hyper_chanonye know how to create an ISO from a cd?09:47
Jucatojust in case you're having problems with English09:47
wonderboyi know09:47
dipeshintelikey: sorry, seems I've no backup of my old xorg.conf with the crt-settings... only the new one with tft :-/09:47
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wonderboyi don't write so good at all09:47
wonderboybut u understand09:47
Jucatono problem. your english is pretty understandable too09:48
wonderboy!09:48
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wonderboyk09:48
intelikeydipesh what you got on vert and horiz  for that lcd ?09:48
dipesh09:40:03 < dipesh >  hyper_ch: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CD_Burning#Making_an_iso-image_from_an_existing_cd ... don't know how it works with k3b :-/09:48
wonderboywere is that command line09:48
nrdbwhere do I pipe the stdout of a program for it to print (on paper) ?09:48
Jucatowonderboy: it's called Konsole09:49
kruemelteewonderboy, yeah, your english is pretty well ... the command line is the line at the console/terminal09:49
guglielfwonderboy: Alt-F2 --> konsole09:49
wonderboyat the default Applications?09:49
dipeshintelikey: http://rafb.net/paste/results/UgXUQ518.html09:49
hyper_chdipesh thx09:49
intelikeynrdb depends on the printer  lpr  maybe09:49
wonderboyk09:49
wonderboyis open09:49
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kruemelteeokay, at this line you have to enter "less /etc/apt/sources.list" ... thats a command ... every command you have to activate with "ENTER"09:50
nrdbintelikey: thats it thanks.09:50
wonderboyunknown09:51
kruemeltee"Return" is the same like "Enter"09:51
satemplerhow come it takes so long to transfer files back from a USB 2.0 drive over a USB 2.0 connection I am only getting around 1Mb/s09:52
wonderboyk09:52
wonderboynext09:52
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satemplerbefore I was getting 12Mb/s to the drive09:52
kruemelteewhat happens if you type "less /etc/apt/sources.list" and press Return?09:52
Jucatoall hail jono! :)09:52
satemplerresoring 17GBs of music09:52
jonohey09:53
wonderboyi pressed Enter09:53
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dipeshsatempler: propably only usb1 is activate/used or you have one of those buggy usb2-cards like I had a while ago09:53
wonderboyit is closed09:53
kruemelteeclosed?09:53
wonderboy!!!09:53
satemplerdipesh: no it's interneal laptop card09:53
musyaPlease check out www.musya.net and join to be a part of this site, if not please leave a message in the forum for as how to change this site to a better one. Our IRC is #musya09:53
wonderboyalose09:53
wonderboyclose09:53
kruemeltee... I'm confused09:54
wonderboyi try it again09:54
kruemelteeokay09:54
satemplermy ehci_hdc driver is loaded09:54
j_is there a way to make adept remember my password for maybe like 15 minutes?09:54
satemplerthats usb 2.009:54
j_I hate punching it in all the time09:54
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satemplerkdesu that needs the password09:54
wonderboyi writed and now i press Enter09:54
wonderboyok?09:54
satemplernot adept09:55
kruemelteeyes09:55
satemplerthere is probly a kdesu conf file some where09:55
wonderboyi must give him to execut in terminal?09:55
satemplerdon't know09:55
j_satempler, I'll try09:55
kruemelteeto execute the command at the terminal you just have to press Return ...09:56
wonderboyyup09:56
j_btw, is there a better search facility than the built-in KDE thing?09:56
kruemelteeand what's happening?09:56
kruemelteeclosed again?09:56
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j_one that indexes maybe09:56
wonderboynoup09:56
black_13_intelikey ?09:56
kruemelteewhat else?09:56
kruemelteeyou got an output, right?09:56
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kruemelteethis should be your file "sources.list" ...09:57
dipeshsatempler: then it's a good question... I guess you also checked syslog/dmesg that usb2 is actualy used?09:57
wonderboyis a new window09:57
wonderboyblack09:57
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kruemelteeno ... its the same window but with different text, right?09:57
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wonderboyi thinck so09:58
satemplerok09:58
wonderboynow...09:58
kruemelteeyea ... press "q" and so you quit ... if so you have to be at the original terminal09:58
intelikeyblack_13_ test that.09:59
kruemelteewonderboy, one line after your typed ccommand "less ..."09:59
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londo4Hallo everyone09:59
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intelikeyblack_13_  i make no promices.09:59
j_where are the conf files stored usually?09:59
black_13_could you email it to me09:59
dipeshj_: beagle does indexing and has with kerry also a nice KDE-ui, but it also slows down everything (that's at least my experience).09:59
intelikeyneither do i spell it correctly  :)10:00
wonderboyi pressed q and is empty10:00
j_dipesh, aha10:00
intelikeyj_ /etc10:00
dipeshj_: in /etc and in ~/.kde/*10:00
j_intelikey, tnks10:00
kruemelteeempty ?!? not the previous screen where you typed "less /etc/apt/sources.list"?10:00
black_13_intelikey i didnt get it10:00
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wonderboyyes10:01
intelikeyoh yeah you might have meant local not global j_   and home.10:01
wonderboybut is black10:01
kruemelteeyeah, thats right ...10:01
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intelikeyblack_13_ transfer completed... find ~/ -name xorg.conf10:01
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kruemelteenow go on the web browser10:01
wonderboynow i write again "les..." in the konsole10:01
kruemelteeyou dont have to10:02
black_13_this is an xp computer we are talking on10:02
black_13_could you email it to me?10:02
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intelikeyblack_13_ oh.... hehe10:02
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kruemelteego on the web browser10:02
wonderboyand10:02
black_13_intelikey jjosburn@gmail.com10:02
kruemelteego on http://schimana.net/ubuntu-sourceslist/10:02
intelikeylet me just pastebin it.   errrr no you'll get M$ markup...10:02
intelikeyok.10:03
zorglu_q. recently my download of ubuntu iso via bittorrent went to 1.2mbyte/s to 300kbyte/s, any body experiences the same thing ?10:03
wonderboynext10:03
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satemplerdipesh: ok here is the rub kernel[17184038.044000]  usb 3-1: not running at top speed; connect to a high speed hub10:03
kruemelteeon top you see an example "sourcs.list", right?10:03
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wonderboyyes10:04
satemplerhow can I make it go faster10:04
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kruemelteeokay, copy the whole "file" ... I mean ... copy the code of the sources.list you see there10:04
zorglu_satempler: connect to a high speed hub ?10:04
kruemelteewonderboy, (mark with your mouse and press Crtl+C)10:05
satempleror for that matter not use ohci_hcd and use a ehci_hcd10:05
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wonderboyk10:05
satemplerzorglu_: My laptop has USB 2.0 going to the drive10:05
zorglu_satempler: ok my knowledge stop here :)10:05
satemplerzorglu_: ok10:05
kruemelteenow go to the K-Menu ... Office ... KWrite10:05
kruemeltee(i hope you already have installed)10:05
black_13_intelikey paste bin is find i cant ftp it to the server10:06
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wonderboyon database office?10:06
wildchild!subrip10:06
kruemelteedatabase? no ... you have to open a text-editor ... but not open office ... a normal text editor10:07
intelikeyblack_13_ but it would collect M$ markup from the pastebin... i'll email it.  as attached but it will take a second.    "i didn't have any email app installed"10:07
kruemelteewhat text-editors do you have?10:07
intelikeydo bow10:07
intelikeynow10:07
wonderboyi don't know10:07
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dipeshsatempler: maybe just try to unload the usb1 module? modprobe ehci_hcd && modprobe -r ohci_hcd10:07
intelikeykate10:08
satemplerehci_hcd is loaded10:08
dipeshsatempler: y, that was just to be sure ;)10:08
satemplerso just modprobe -r ohci_hcd10:08
wonderboywere i see it10:08
intelikeykruemeltee it's default kubuntu   kate will be there10:08
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satemplerok10:08
intelikeyand nano   but we want to stay away from cli i think...10:08
dipeshsatempler: and tail -f /var/log/message to look what the kernel says...10:08
dipeshor tail -n 100 /var/log/message10:09
intelikeyoooops lagging....10:09
intelikeysorry10:09
satemplernew full speed USB device using ohci_hcd10:10
wonderboyiOffice editor?10:10
satemplernot running at top speed; connect to a high speed hub10:10
satemplerconfiguration #1 chosen from 1 choice10:10
j_wooohoo, no work today! thank god for broken source cds!10:10
wonderboykruemeltee10:11
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dipeshsatempler: what kernel-version? and what usb-hw (lspic -vvvvv | grep USB)?10:11
dipeshlspci10:11
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musyaanyone know of any good apps like dreamweaver only for linux?10:12
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intelikeyblack_13_ should be in the box.10:12
satemplerone sec10:12
dipeshmusya: quanta10:12
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wonderboykruemeltee u are stil here10:12
dipeshmusya: but I fear it's better then dreamwaver... ;)10:12
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musyadipesh: does it work for kubuntu?10:13
dipeshmusya: for saure10:13
dipeshsure10:13
satemplerdipesh: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34928/10:13
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black_13_thanks what xorgcfg totally be removed from xorg or just from ubuntu10:14
phenhi10:14
pheni got a question on installing tv tuner10:14
phencan anyone help10:14
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kruemel_teewonderboy, sorry ... my internetconnection was disturbed10:16
intelikeyblack_13_ from debian i think and that's ubuntu's upstream source  so   ....10:17
wonderboyk10:17
wonderboyso10:17
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kruemel_teewonderboy, what text editors do you have?10:17
phen_Can anyone help me with installing my tv-tuner in Kubuntu?10:17
kruemel_teewonderboy, do you have emacs?10:18
intelikey!tv10:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:18
wonderboyoffice org. word procesor!!!10:18
wonderboythis10:18
intelikeykate.10:18
intelikeykate  or nano.10:18
kruemel_teethis one won't work ... you need a texteditor that can save pure ascii10:18
kruemel_teeyeah, kate or nano would work10:19
j_anyone tried kat?10:19
j_theres also doodle10:19
j_now I'm not sure which to install'10:19
j_does kat index?10:19
intelikeyoo can do that.  but it's not default.   in fact i don't know an editor that can't save ascii10:19
wonderboyor kontact10:19
phen_02:0a.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)10:19
wonderboyi don't think10:20
zorglu_q. recently my download of ubuntu iso via bittorrent went to 1.2mbyte/s to 300kbyte/s, any body experiences the same thing ?10:20
ylz_exit10:20
ylz_exit10:20
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ylz_exit10:20
black_13_intelikey same problem no change10:20
wonderboykruemeltee10:20
kruemel_teeintelikey, yeah, but if I have to teach him how OO save pure ascii I'm still sitting here tomorrow10:20
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kruemel_teewonderboy, no ... kontact is wrong ... do you have kate?10:21
intelikeykruemel_tee yeah :)    kate'll do it.10:21
dipeshsatempler: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_Gentoo_on_an_AMD_Turion64-based_Compaq_Presario_V2000_Series_Notebook says something about bad usb2-support with SB400... but other pages are saying, that it should work fine. hmmm...10:21
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satemplerok because that is the model of laptop that I have10:22
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intelikeyblack_13_ swap the commented out vert and horiz   for the ones not commented and see what it gives.10:22
wonderboyI have Office presentation,Spreadseet and word processor10:22
kruemel_teenothing out of office ...10:22
wonderboykate10:23
wonderboy??10:23
kruemel_teeyeah10:23
kruemel_teeyou have kate wonderboy ?10:23
wonderboyi don't think10:23
kruemel_teeokay ... go to the console10:23
wonderboyyuo10:23
wonderboyi have10:23
kruemel_teeplease do exact what I tell you10:23
kruemel_teepwd (Return)10:24
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dipeshsatempler: so, what kernel-version you are using?10:24
satempler2.6.17-10-generic10:24
wonderboywhat console10:24
satemplershould I upgrade10:24
wonderboyblack one10:24
kruemel_teeyeah10:25
satempler!kernel10:25
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild10:25
kruemel_teewonderboy, If I talk about a console I mean the black thing, okay?10:25
wonderboyk10:25
dipeshsatempler: well, that's already a quit actual version...10:25
kruemel_teeokay ... within the black thing (console) please type "pwd" and press RETURN10:26
satemplerI thought 2.6.18 somthing was the latest10:26
dipeshsatempler: 2.6.19 since today10:26
satempleroh well there ya go10:26
dipesh:)10:26
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satemplerbug fixes a many10:26
kruemel_teewonderboy, if you do so, you get your current working directory10:27
intelikeyahhh times up, i'm went.     " tre' bon' chance, mo chapo' "  :)10:27
dipeshsatempler: y. but if I seek for your laptop-model I also found a few pages saying that usb2 works fine without probs... so, hmmm...10:27
kruemel_teeshould be /home/youName10:27
leonardogood morning10:27
satemplerwhat systems10:27
satemplerIt has to have ATI South Bridge10:28
black_13_intelikey what about the trick of taking a live cd?10:28
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dipeshsatempler: "Compaq Presario V2000"10:28
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satemplerCompaq Presario V2608WM10:28
dipeshsatempler: or are there different types/releases of it out?10:29
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satemplerthere isn't any others I know of that have installed Linux10:29
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satemplercan't go back to windows I riped my XP key off the bottom10:29
kruemelteewonderboy, have you finished?10:29
leonardohi everybody10:29
wonderboyso I type pwd10:30
kruemelteeokay ... and then press "RETURN"10:30
wonderboywere10:30
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wonderboyi can't type10:30
kruemelteeoh lord ...10:30
DuracraftHows everyone10:30
leonardowhen i try to install java packages using adept manager, i get a "preparing..." message... and nothing else happens...10:31
wonderboyi pressed q and now i have a black screen10:31
kruemelteepress q like a told you before ... to quit the black screen and return to the line where you entered "less /etc/apt/sources.list" before10:31
wonderboyand i can't write pwd10:31
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phen_leo-hit details and tab and enter?10:31
leonardoahh10:31
phen_u should already jhave java10:31
phen_i think10:32
kruemelteeokay ... so close the terminal (with the x on the right top of the terminal window) ... and open a new one10:32
leonardothanks phen10:32
phen_np10:32
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leonardoit was a "ok" at details, tks10:32
wonderboyk10:32
wonderboynext10:32
kruemelteenow type "pwd" and press Enter10:32
kruemeltee(sorry ... return)10:33
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wonderboyi pressed10:33
wonderboyreturn10:33
kruemelteewhats happening?10:33
wonderboye pressed enter10:33
MenZa!enter10:33
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.10:33
dipeshsatempler: well, if it's a new one it may not be that unlikly that a new kernel could fix it... do you compile them by your own? if yes, it may also an idea to turn on usb-verbosity (take care, it may produce lots of mb till gb of logfiles :) ... iirc Alan Stern and the usb-crew is always happy to get such logs into there hands for hw that doesn't actualy work.10:33
sungamThe sound on my computer keeps disappearing. I'm not sure, but I think it may be related to hitting the mute button on my keyboard. It doesn't seem to reactivate itself afterwards. /window new hide10:34
dipeshwork as expected10:34
kruemelteethere has to be a new line where you got the information, in which directory you are10:34
wonderboyi have a black screen and  i have ?home/wonderboy write10:34
sungamops :o10:34
satemplerdipesh: ok and ya I have to compile it my self10:34
kruemelteeyea, right10:34
satemplernot looking forward to it10:34
satemplertakes a long time10:34
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kruemelteenow type "vi" and press return (you'll get a black window again)10:35
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wonderboynext10:35
kruemelteewithin the black window you press the key "i" ...10:35
wonderboyinsert10:36
kruemelteeright10:36
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wonderboythen10:36
wonderboy...10:36
kruemelteenow press the middle button of your mouse10:36
eilkerwhat is symlink ? is it exactly equalevent to shortcut in windows ?10:37
kruemeltee(the text you previously marked at the browser) should appear10:37
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wonderboyyes10:37
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wonderboynest10:37
kruemelteeokay, now press Escape10:37
wonderboynext10:37
leonardoeilker, is equivalent?10:38
dipeshsatempler: depends... e.g. on my system it takes <5 minutes since my kernel .config is already pretty much perfect configured for this system. Also it's a nice way to learn more about the internals :) ... but if you don't like to go that deep yet, then I would suggest to either ask at one of those large forums for more tips or to to continue to seek via your fav search-engine for more details about kernel+your laptop-model. Normaly probl10:38
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kruemeltee(the cursor have to change his look) ...10:38
eilkeryes leonardo10:38
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kruemelteenow type ":w sources.list" and press return10:38
dipeshsatempler: it's also (very) possible that I just oversaw a way to get more infos or to even solve the prob... btw, a forum also has the advantage that other users that search via there fav search-engine may see your message then...10:40
kruemelteeat the bottom of the screen a line appears, saying something like "sources.list written"10:40
kruemelteenow type ":q" and press enter10:40
wonderboynext10:40
dipeshoh, did I miss a vi-introduction? :)10:40
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kruemelteehave you everything done? (:w sources.list) and (:q) ?!?10:41
kruemelteedipesh, lol ... no10:41
wonderboyi think so10:41
eilker!symlink10:42
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands10:42
wonderboyi pressed esc10:42
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kruemelteeokay, now type ":w sources.list" and press enter10:42
wonderboycommand not found10:44
phen_need help installing tvtuner : 02:0a.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01) if anyone knows10:44
kruemeltee???10:45
kruemelteeyou may forgot the ":"10:45
wonderboy:w sources.list10:45
wonderboyright!?10:45
kruemelteeyeah10:45
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wonderboynot found10:46
kruemelteetry ":w! sources.list"10:46
wonderboynoup10:47
wonderboysame10:47
kruemeltee*snief* ... I couldnt believe10:47
kruemelteetry just ":w"10:47
black_13_well vnc works at least10:47
wonderboysame10:48
kruemelteetry escape twice10:48
dipeshoh, oh... vi is closed and him is back at the prompt I guess...10:48
kruemelteeyou think so? dipesh10:48
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dipeshkruemeltee: "command not found" sounds so...10:49
kruemeltee*SNIEF*10:49
dipeshpropably the changes where already written...10:49
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wonderboyman10:49
kruemelteewonderboy, try ls and search on the output for "sources.list"10:50
kruemelteesorry, type "ls" and return10:50
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discolodahello10:50
kruemelteenow search for sources.list10:50
wonderboyis or Ls10:51
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kruemelteeLS10:51
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discolodais there a reason the liveCD would not load X properly? (i get as far as a blue screen)10:51
wonderboyand now10:52
uwohi all. finally enabled sleep on thinkpad in edgy by modiying sleep.sh - suspend now works if i go through power manager - suspend - or by "sudo sleep.sh" in terminal. how can i bind this to FN-4 - the problem could be that this runs sleep.sh as normal user, which doesn't work even in terminal10:52
wonderboy:w sources .list or sources.list10:52
kruemelteeyou found sources.list on the appearing output?10:52
kruemelteesources.list10:52
dipeshdiscoloda: nah, linux does not have blue screens of dead cause they are patented by MS :) ... so, a black screen?10:52
kruemelteeno no non ... back10:52
kruemelteenot :w ... I think you already did that10:52
wonderboyi pressed lx10:52
wonderboyk10:53
kruemelteenot lx ... ls10:53
wonderboyandsorry10:53
wonderboyls10:53
wonderboyj10:53
wonderboyk10:53
wonderboynow10:53
kruemelteeat the appearing output you search for "sources.list"10:53
wonderboyno such file or directory10:54
kruemeltee???10:54
dipeshhehe10:54
wonderboyDesktop  Examples  mldonkey-distrib-2.8.210:54
kruemelteedipesh, what are you loughing about?10:55
wonderboythis is what apear after i write ls10:55
wonderboyand then i write sources.list10:55
wonderboyright10:55
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alexiconmeh10:55
kruemelteeno ...10:56
wonderboy!!!!!!10:56
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kruemelteenormally if you type ls you get the files included in yout directory you currently are ...10:56
dipeshkruemeltee: I guess the situation (that is the human kind of communication in general and the problems cause of different kind of interpretations and protocols betrween individuals :)10:56
kruemelteedipesh, I think so too10:56
wonderboyu told me to write ls10:58
kruemelteewonderboy, I think its better you join the channel #kubuntu-ro and try it there ... but you have to learn how to work with linux ... go on http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3888 and download a english version of selflinux10:58
kruemelteewonderboy, if you don't know how to handle a console so I'm not able to help you ... it just takes too long ...10:59
kruemelteewonderboy, sorry ... but try to find some "linux learning sites" written in rumain ...10:59
wonderboyk11:00
kruemeltee:-)11:00
uwocould someone tell me why sleep.sh works when run as root, but not as normal user? How can i change permission?11:00
wonderboythanks man and sorry11:00
kruemelteeno problem ... you're welcome11:00
dipeshisn't that much to learn btw... just some basic things like how to change directories, how to display the content of a directory, how to edit a file, etc.11:00
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kruemelteeright ...11:01
pyruHello, I am curious, i have just installed kubuntu on my laptop (toshiba satellite p100) and my sound works but is lower then usual, all settings are turned up11:01
pyruanyone help me out with this11:01
dipeshthat also helps a lot to understand all those tutorials that are around and provides at the end a lot of less frustration cause things then start to work just like to like to have them working ;)11:01
kruemelteeso long ... I have to work now ... :-)11:01
wonderboyI k11:02
wonderboyok11:02
kruemelteegood luck wonderboy11:02
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leonardohow do i fix disk block problems on boot11:03
leonardo?11:03
leonardothere is a notice that they exist, but are not being fixed11:04
leonardois there any boot command or option to try?11:04
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||arifaXleonardo: maybe boot with a live cd and do some disk checks, but dunno the commands11:05
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PyruHello, I am curious, i have just installed kubuntu on my laptop (toshiba satellite p100) and my sound works but is lower then usual, all settings are turned up11:06
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||arifaXPyru: do you have a manual volume adjustment on your notebook? maybe this is set to low volume?11:06
leonardoarifax, is there a check on a instaled kubuntu? or just live cd?11:07
Pyruyes, it's max11:07
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Pyruthe volume dial on my notebook is turned all the way up.11:07
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dipeshleonardo: the prog is called "fsck" and it should be also installed at kubuntu... but it is not recommed to fsck a partition that is mounted...11:08
dipesh...that's why a livecd is a good way11:08
leonardoah ok dipesh11:09
dipeshit's btw a console-app11:09
leonardoyes, i ll try with live cd11:09
dipeshjust fsck<tab><tab> to see what fsck's do exist and man fsck to get some more infos about the prog ;)11:10
leonardoyes, exist11:10
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dipeshPyru: alt+f2 and then start "kmix" ... iirc the settings are remembered and maybe your e.g. master is very low...11:12
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Jucatoanyone here with any experience with bluetooths and cellphones?11:13
Jucatoin Kubuntu, of course11:13
Voker57Where are headers for kde stored?11:13
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Voker57and general kde dir too11:13
Voker57who knows?11:13
Jucato$KDEDIR in Kubuntu = /usr11:14
Jucatoafaik11:14
abattoirJucato: ME, ME ;)11:15
Jucatoah abattoir! the man I should have asked :)11:15
JucatoI got me a bluetooth dongle!!!11:15
Pyrudipesh: still same thing11:15
Pyruodd11:15
abattoirJucato: cool11:15
Jucatoabattoir: here's the thing, I can send to and from the phone. but... that's just it :)11:15
abattoirJucato: what else do you want to do?11:16
abattoirJucato: tried bluetooth:/ ?11:16
dipeshPyru: you also checked e.g. "pcm" ?11:16
JucatoI want my phone to control the whole PC :P11:16
dipeshat kmix11:16
abattoirJucato: get yourself bemused for s6011:16
dipeshchecked as in put it to the highest value11:16
Jucatoand leave the world of Linux... heheh j/k11:16
abattoirJucato: kbemusedsrv already  comes installed w/ kdebluetooth11:16
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Jucatoabattoir: how do I browse through the phone's filesystem?11:17
Pyrudipesh: all volume settings are all on max11:17
Pyrumaybe choose pcm as master?11:17
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abattoirJucato: hmm, i haven't really needed/tried that one yet...11:17
shinobi2any tools to convert hex 0x5A into integer or character?11:18
Jucatoah11:18
JucatoI need that one the most :)11:18
shinobi2i am looking for simple command line11:18
abattoirJucato: http://www.wahlau.org/linux_bluetooth_and_series_6011:18
dipeshPyru: hmmm... eh, no. I guess if you try e.g. the xmms audioplayer it's also low?11:19
Jucatokool11:19
Voker57___________Where are kde headers stored?_____________11:19
Jucatooh here's the thing... how do I search for bluetooth devices on my PC? I mean, I could search for devices on my phone, and my phone sees the PC. but not vice versa11:19
Pyrudipesh: yes11:20
Pyrui mean the sound works but on windows its 3 x louder11:20
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Pyruseems very dimm11:20
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Voker57does somebody know where are kde headers stored?11:20
Voker57in kubuntu11:20
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SortOfThing /usr/include/kde ?11:21
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Voker57nos uch dir11:22
Voker57no such dir11:22
dipeshPyru: well, while I am not that familar with sound on linux it may an idea to "apt-get install alsa-utils" and run the alsamixer to look if anything there is wrong (for the case you are using alsa?)... else I don't really know :-(11:22
JucatoVoker57: I think you need to install "kde-devel"?11:23
Voker57Jucato: oh11:23
alakdanhello, I am currently using firefox on edgy. Is there a way to move the close "x" button on the right rather than an 'x' button on every tabs?11:23
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Jucatoabattoir: how did you search for the address of your phone? (hidd --search doesn't yield anything)11:24
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abattoirJucato: try 'hcitool scan'11:25
Jucatothat did it. the wiki page must either be wrong or outdated11:26
abattoirJucato: ubuntu wiki?11:26
Jucatoyep11:26
Jucato!bluetooth | abattoir11:26
ubotuabattoir: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup11:26
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Voker57Jucato: can i download headers only?11:27
alakdanthis is way cool on firefox! about:config11:27
Jucatoum that I don't know Voker5711:28
Jucato?11:28
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fjellrev1I'm running KSmoothdock but it will only show on one specific desktop,anyone know of anyway yo apply it to all desktops ?11:33
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eilker!dmesg11:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dmesg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:42
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stanihello?11:51
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DuracraftHolla11:52
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staniI was wondering if it was possible to autostart an application minimized (.kde/autostart shortcut)?11:53
dhqi need help i have a avi file i want it to read in my dvd player how do i make it a vcd11:53
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svenhello all12:00
svencan somebody help me please?12:00
svenwhere can ig get gpg?12:00
eilkergpg ?12:01
svenyes12:01
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eilker!gpg > sven12:04
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j_I need to write a little script that inputs lines from a text file to an application, how do I go about this?12:04
Duracraftis it a video game12:05
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j_on windows I would have no problems12:05
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TheOddOnehelp question: has anybody gotten a winfast tv2000 remote working with kdelirc in edgy ?12:05
j_!scripting12:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about scripting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:05
j_ohnoes12:05
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j_is there an equivalent to vbscrito in ubuntu?12:06
j_*vscript12:06
j_*vbcript12:06
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j_*vbscript12:06
j_damn12:06
j_bad typo day12:06
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afm\colossusvbscript? wtf?12:08
afm\colossusi don't think there's a single scripting language as limited and brain-damaged as vbscript for unix-style OSs12:08
j_yeah, that was just an example12:09
j_I normally use btewin on windows12:09
j_so, how do I script this thing?12:09
afm\colossusthere are numerous extremely powerfulls cripting languages available for GNU/Linux12:09
afm\colossuscheck Ruby, Python, Perl, Tcl/Tk, your shell, ...12:09
j_Tcl/TK?12:10
j_found it "Linux Shell Scripting for Idiots"12:12
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stanij_: Try Python, which also works on windows. Ask your question on the comp.lang.python mailing list, probably you'll get answers very soon. I guess you can use python subprocess for that.12:16
j_stani, thanks for the suggestion12:17
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DeadS0ulhi, do any of you know how I can reinstall grub on my box, i had to reinstall windows recently12:19
Jucato!grub | DeadS0ul12:19
ubotuDeadS0ul: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:19
j_ha, python is pre-installed too12:19
DeadS0ulthanks12:19
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staniJ_: If you are looking for a good python editor, try SPE (sudo apt-get install python-wxversion spe). Python is the most popular scripting language on ubuntu.12:20
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eilkeri wanna install suse from dvd, i have its dvd, my pc doesnt have dvd player, but my laptop has, can i use my laptops's dvd player for my pc at booting ?12:24
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DeadS0ulJucato, grub-install hd0 keeps failing =\12:29
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DeadS0ulmeh i'll just do a reinstall12:31
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sparrthe kde printer scan dialog defaulted to scanning 127.0.0.x when i have two IPs (like all normal people), 127.0.0.1 and 192.168.0.x.  wouldnt it be more friendly to default to the non-loopback ip?12:43
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malicdoes anyone know what could cause kubuntu desktop to respond slowly despite 3d drivers being installed?12:49
malicala window tearing when I move them around, etc12:49
malicglx is working just fine12:49
malicglxgears works just fine12:49
malicbut moving windows around is horrendously slow12:50
malicslower then when i was using the nv driver12:50
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[GuS] Bonjour tout le monde12:57
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apokryphos!fr12:57
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:57
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[A] ndy80hi12:59
[A] ndy80a simple question: in ubuntu 6.06 if I use qt3 applications, the application theme is fine, rounded ecc... If I run qt4 application the theme is ugly! It looks like the old tcl/tk interface (for progress bar, checkbox ecc...) how can i fix this?12:59
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dipesh[A] ndy80: try "qtconfig"01:02
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jesusrbuenas a todos01:02
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[A] ndy80qtconfig-qt401:03
[A] ndy80found!01:03
[A] ndy80thanks :)01:03
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dipesh[A] ndy80: which Qt4-apps you are using btw?01:04
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[A] ndy80wengophone01:04
[A] ndy80and designer-qt401:05
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[A] ndy80I'm learning c++ programming with qt401:05
SortOfThing_good choice.01:05
[A] ndy80thanks :)01:06
dipeshy, very good choice :)01:06
xsacha:)01:06
[A] ndy80are you qt programmers?01:06
SortOfThing_some of us01:06
SortOfThing_if you want to talk to qt programmers, join #qt01:07
dipeshor #kde :)01:07
[A] ndy80yes, no problem... it was just a question :)01:07
dipeshnah, #kde-devel01:07
[A] ndy80of course on #qt they use qt :D01:07
dipeshor #scribus :)01:07
SortOfThing_or #kde-fr if you're a froggy01:07
[A] ndy80ehehe01:07
[A] ndy80no :P01:07
[A] ndy80I'm IT, not FR :P01:08
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draremhow do i find out all the services that are running01:08
scheurig'day all01:08
scheuridrarem: services or processes?01:08
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draremweb servers01:09
scheuridrarem: either by using "nmap" or using "netstat"01:09
dipeshor e.g. "ps -ef|grep apache"01:09
scheuridrarem: or actually "ps" and searching for webservers such as apache01:09
dipeshheh, /me was faster :)01:09
scheuri1 sec too slow...arrr...;)01:09
scheuri;)01:09
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michaelvsI had a botched upgrade to 6.10 last night.  Computer won't boot.  If I try the upgrade using a cd do you think it will work, or will I need to do a re-install from scratch?01:11
draremhow do i unintall something i just apt-get install ?  I tried apt-remove, apt-get uninstall01:11
Hobbseedrarem: apt-get remove01:11
hastesaverdrarem, apt-get remove01:11
draremdoh01:11
scheurimichaelvs: the upgrade might have been done "correctly"...but some configs might be faulty01:11
eilkerapt-get remove01:11
draremty01:11
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scheuridrarem: I would suggest using aptitude instead of apt-get...as aptitude is a bit better when solving dependencies01:12
hastesaverdrarem, you can also do "apt-get --purge remove" if you want to wipe out all traces of it :-)01:12
hastesaverscheuri, really? how so?01:12
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scheuridrarem: or to make things easier: "man apt-get" and "man aptitude"01:12
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michaelvsScheuri: possibly.  It won't boot and I've had trouble with grub seeing that my boot disk is sdb1 before.  Have to remember how I've fixed this in the past...01:13
scheurihastesaver: well, I can't say from insights as I was not writting its code...but it appears to handle complex stuff better...01:13
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scheurihastesaver: it was even suggested to use aptitude when updating from Debian Sarge (testing) when it became stable...01:13
scheuri:=01:13
scheurimichaelvs: indeed...;)...well....so what does "it does not boot" mean exactly?01:14
hastesaverscheuri, isn't aptitude just an ncurses wrapper for apt? Anyway, I've never had dependency trouble (yet?) so I wouldn't know :-)01:14
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scheurihastesaver: AFAIK it is not "just" a ncurses wrapper01:14
michaelvsI get a flash of the kubuntu graphical boot screen and if I switch to alt-f7 or whatever it says something like udevd error with depmod or something.  No other boot messages and in f1 there are no boot messages past grub01:15
weedarI have a program (Eclipse) that uses a SHIFT+CTRL+S key-combination to save all files, but when I attempt this I just open Kopete. How can I change this behaviour?01:15
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Jucatoweedar: in Kopete -> Settings -> Configure Global Shortcuts01:17
guidenis there programs like kazaa, bearshare for linux?01:19
scheuriguiden: gtk-gnutella01:19
guidenok01:20
scheurihm, I probably should not have answered that01:20
naught101I've lost my right click>"move to" and "copy to" commands...01:21
naught101anyone know how to get them back?01:21
naught101eh... they're back01:22
naught101forget it01:22
scheuriLOL01:22
scheurithanks...;)01:22
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weedarJucato: thank you :)01:24
dipeshguiden: or even better mldonkey+kmldonkey which dioesn't only gnutella but also e.g. donkey, direct connect, kamilia, overnet, fasttrack, etc.01:25
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leonardo_brhi everybody01:28
leonardo_brwhich directory do you install your applications?01:28
apokryphosleonardo_br: kde? In the KDE prefix (kde-config --prefix) which is /usr01:30
leonardo_bryes, kde01:30
leonardo_brdo I use share or local?01:30
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leonardo_brany difference?01:31
apokryphosfor compiling applications /usr/local is probably better01:32
leonardo_brhum01:32
apokryphosthere is, since this way you can have two applications installed -- the packaged one, and the compiled on (in /usr/local)01:32
guidendipesh ok thanks01:32
guidenshould I install them both?01:32
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scheuriguiden: you may....and try them....take what suits you best01:33
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guidenok01:34
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leonardo_brapokryphos, like google earth, shoud i use usr/share? or local?01:35
apokryphosgoogle earth you could just install into your home directory even01:35
apokryphosbut /usr or /usr/local is fine for Google earth, since there's no Ubuntu package for it01:36
scheuri /opt would be probably the most consitent, right?01:37
leonardo_bris there a consense about this subject?01:37
scheuri*consistent01:37
leonardo_brcan i find any information on web?01:38
scheurileonardo_br: nope...:)...01:38
leonardo_brahhh tks01:38
guidendipesh, should I have the other programs install in order for the kmldonkey to work?01:38
guidened01:38
scheurileonardo_br: it is merely a question of gusto...01:38
hastesaverleonardo_br, for things not from the repos, /opt, usually01:38
scheurileonardo_br: in this case however01:38
dipeshguiden: nope. only mldonkey and kmldonkey01:39
leonardo_brbut some hints are important to create my own classification01:40
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scheurileonardo_br: in this case....take /opt for all software you add yourself01:40
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guidendipesh there isn't a packed called mldonkey, is it the mldonkey-server01:40
scheuri /opt as in "optional"01:40
leonardo_brscheuri, tks01:41
apokryphosscheuri: nope. General is /usr for packages and /usr/local for compiled01:41
apokryphosopt is of course also fine though. Doesn't entirely matter where you put it, as long as it's in path.01:41
scheuriapokryphos: okay...sorry....you are right.../opt is just "easier" explained01:42
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dipeshguiden: y, take the mldonkey-server01:42
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apokryphosno worries01:42
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dipeshguiden: mldonkey is splittet into the core/server/mlnet which runs gui-less while e.g. KMLDonkey provides the gui.01:43
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michaelvsscheuri: I got disconnected.  Not sure if you had sent me anything else besides the boot question?01:44
michaelvsScheuri: incidentally, I just tried to boot to an earlier kernel.  I got errors for usplash, mdadm.conf, etc.  I think it isn't getting to initrd right or another disk...01:45
guidendipesh, does the server start if I start kmldonkey?01:46
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leonardo_brwhere symlinks are located?01:48
dipeshguiden: start KMLDonkey and let the Wizard that shows up then guide you through all questions ;)01:48
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scheurimichaelvs: I am not sure if I can help you...as I am still using 6.0601:50
scheurimichaelvs: what exactly does the newer kernel say? what kind of error?01:50
michaelvsNo worries.  I'm going to try another upgrade from CD, and if that doesn' t work I'll just move over my home and other imporant directories to another hard disk.01:51
guidendipesh workfolder? is it the folder for mldonkey?01:52
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dipeshguiden: as the wizard says; "this is where it stores all it's files..." ... should be "/var/lib/mldonkey/" on kubuntu01:54
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ubuntuI want to set up a fully encryped system, and have read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystem but I'm wondering if I can use that for edgy?01:55
ubuntuas it says "Encrypted Root and Swap with LUKS (on Ubuntu 6.06)"01:56
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dipeshguiden: btw, I recommed "External core" rather then "Managed core" since then ml will keep running even if you close kmldonkey and also it already starts even before kde is up. Also mldonkey supports http and ftp downloads what makes it a nice tool to download always the latest kubuntu-cd's (ok, torrent may better here since it's faster :)01:57
dipeshtorrent is btw also supported01:57
delight!kdesvn01:58
ubotukdesvn: subversion client with tight KDE integration. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5-1 (edgy), package size 1405 kB, installed size 3304 kB01:58
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dipeshguiden: also kmldonkey comes with the mldonkey:// kio-slave, a mldonkey-kde-service and konqueror integration...01:59
delightIs there other ppls having problems with the kdesvn ?01:59
delightI'm really annoyind it's crashin konqueror all the time!01:59
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ubuntuno one tried encrypting a full system here?01:59
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delightDid somebody find some workaround ? Cause it does not seem that we will se a backport of  a new kdesvn on edgy anitime soon02:00
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delightDid you just uninstall kdesvn or find some fix for it ? I am so annoyed with it ... can't be that we have to wait till feisty to get a working kdesvn02:02
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guidendipesh how do I find the external core?02:02
delightit was broken in dapper already02:02
dipeshguiden: you don't need to find it... kmldonkey communicates with mldonkey through a socket (that's what the address+port is for)02:03
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dipeshguiden: direct access to the core is only needed if kmldonkey should manage the core for you...02:05
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dakotaczesc, jest tu ktos z Polski?02:10
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waddleranyone know how i would create a link to another drive directory for proftpd?(/home/ftp to hdc1/music)02:27
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yogiWeird happenings on Edgy w/PL2303.  It gets disconnected w/o preamble.02:38
yogiNov 30 07:06:24 flight6 kernel: [17218608.100000]  usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 202:39
yogiNov 30 07:06:24 flight6 kernel: [17218608.100000]  pl2303 2-2:1.0: device disconnected02:39
yogiNov 30 07:06:24 flight6 pppd[3726] : Hangup (SIGHUP)02:39
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yogiIt happens intermittently... sometimes not for many days.02:39
BulwinkleHas anyone had problems installing mysql-server?  It isn't working for me (fresh install of edgy)02:42
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yogiSeem to be lots of people herre but all are doing something else.02:42
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BulwinkleHopefully they are all working on fixing the mysql-server package so that it works02:43
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yogi...and my PL2303 dropping problem... ;-)02:43
Bulwinkle!mysql02:43
ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.02:43
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Bulwinkleyogi:  can you restate your problem?02:43
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yogiBulwinkle: The kernel is dropping the PL2303 connection w/o preamble.02:44
yogiNov 30 07:06:24 flight6 kernel: [17218608.100000]  usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 202:44
yogiNov 30 07:06:24 flight6 kernel: [17218608.100000]  pl2303 2-2:1.0: device disconnected02:44
yogiNov 30 07:06:24 flight6 pppd[3726] : Hangup (SIGHUP)02:44
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yogiThe prob is intermittent, Bullwinkle.02:45
icheynewhat is a pl2303 (I could google, but can't be bothered)02:45
JorvalHello channel :-) i have a little problem mounting an smbfs share. i can mount the share. but then an ls -la shows: ? ? ? mnt !!! and i cant access the content. did someone know what i did wrong ???02:45
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Bulwinkle!mysql-server02:46
ubotumysql-server: mysql database server (current version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.24a-9 (edgy), package size 38 kB, installed size 68 kB02:46
Bulwinkle!mysql-server-5.002:46
ubotumysql-server-5.0: mysql database server binaries. In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.24a-9 (edgy), package size 24352 kB, installed size 65824 kB02:46
yogiBulwinkle, I guess nobody can help with this one.  I think it is a module problem, actually.02:46
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yogiBulwinkle, thanks for asking, anyhow.  Have a good day. ;-)02:47
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Bulwinklecan someone show me where to find the dependencies for a package?  When I try to install mysql-server it says "Dependency problems" and fails....  Isn't the whole purpose of apt-get to SOLVE dependencies?02:50
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schmeKDE on Edgy.  How do I get rid of the lil' bouncy thing next to the cursor when applications are loaded?02:53
Jorval@bulwinkle did you updated your reposities ?02:53
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xmonkeyhello02:55
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BulwinkleJorval: yeppers....  and added a couple...  how do I flush my download cache?02:55
Jucatoschme: press Alt+F2, type in "KControl". Under Appearance & Themes, look for Launch Notification02:55
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xmonkeyi have a ide hdd jumpered as master and a sata2 hdd on the first sata port. kubuntu installation wants to install grub "hd0". is that the ide or sata2 hdd now?02:56
schmeJucato: I got some error when I ran kcontrol.. It did start up tho, and I did change it in laung notification.  It still did the bouncy bouncy02:57
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Jucatoschme: did you launch it from the Run Command box (Alt+F2)?02:57
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schmeJucato: Actually I launched from an xterm .. does it matter ?02:58
Jucatoer I meant Launch Feedback, then change the Busy Cursor02:58
Jucatoschme: no, but the error messages that you see there are not important02:58
schmeJucato: yeah. that is what I changed, meant that one :)02:58
schmeJucato: it still bounced02:58
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Jucatodid you click on Apply? :)02:58
schmeHehe. Yes, I did.02:58
xmonkeyany idea?02:59
Jucatohm.. weird...02:59
Jucatomaybe it needs a restart of KDE? (logout and login again)02:59
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vellewhich pdf readers are You using?03:00
icheyneBulwinkle, apt-cache unmet packagename03:00
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JucatoKPDF03:00
icheyneBulwinkle, I think :)03:00
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apokryphoskpdf is default in Kubuntu, I believe.03:01
schmeJucato: Perhaps... It seems weird that session restart would be required. Oh well. I will try it next week when I have access to kubuntu again :)   Thought it might be some well known bug.. eh FEATURE. Thanks for the help though.03:01
icheynevelle, adobe03:01
davidhey guys, could someone tell me how i go about adding a program to the konsole enviroment03:01
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icheyne"the konsole environment" what do you mean by that?03:02
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comp6heeeeej03:03
davidwell i've installed hla and want konsole to recognize it instead of having to type the full path to it03:03
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HenkiespankieFLORIS03:03
comp5HENKIE !03:03
HenkiespankieHELEMAAL KNETTERRR03:03
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KL00TVI00Lknetter buis ja03:03
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velleicheyne: me2 so far. I am really annoyed by the "hand mouse cursor", it is perfect for dragging the document around, but if I by accident give a single push, it both zooms in and scrolls down, i dont understand the point of that behavior. Did you think about that problem?03:04
Bulwinkleicheyne: it gives me a list of all unmets is there a way to resolve them all?03:04
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Henkiespankieheej whats up you guys03:04
KL00TVI00LNIJMEGEN NIJMEGEN NIJMEGEN03:04
KL00TVI00Lnec nec nec03:04
KL00TVI00Lguus je bent fokking lelijk :>03:04
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KL00TVI00L|>.<|03:05
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velleicheyne: and another thing, i havent found a way to scroll horisonatally only using the keyboard, this annoys me too, so I thought that there had to be a better reader03:05
icheynevelle, sorry no - try kpdf - it's pretty good03:05
perrinhi,  i am having some trouble with theming KDE,  when i apply any theme, i seem to get these weird black lines every 2nd listing in Kmail and Gaim, see http://preview.tinyurl.com/yfelnu  any ideas?03:05
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icheyneBulwinkle, sudo apt-get install dependency1 dependency2 dependency303:05
Henkiespankieso yea i was like owning those noob03:06
icheynevelle, you could try Ocular the new KDE pdf reader. I'm not sure what stage it's at yet03:06
Henkiespankiestage 6 i ve heard03:06
velleicheyne: and ive tried kpdf too, but it does not support bookmarks, and since i am actually reading books of hundreds of pages, this is really helpful feature03:06
velleicheyne: thanks, ill try it right away :)03:06
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Bulwinkleicheyne: when I do apt-cache unmet mysql-server-5.0 I get the list of ALL unmet dependencies....03:07
Jucatoperrin: System Settings -> Appearance -> Colors -> in the Widget Color drop-down list, select Alternate Background in Lists and set it to the same color as Standard Background.03:07
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icheyneBulwinkle, sorry I should have suggested this instead sudo apt-get build-dep mysqlserver03:09
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perrinJucato: thanks, ive changed it,  do i need to restart X or something?03:09
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Bulwinkleicheyne: now its doing something :)03:09
Jucatoperrin: no need, afaik03:10
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perrinhmm ok,  it hasnt changed thats all03:11
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icheynevelle, you can try evince and xpdf too03:13
BlackBsddoes kubuntu still use all the debian packages, such as gcc 3.4.6, as opposed to 4.1?03:13
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davidwould .bashrc be the file i need to edit to make Konsole find an application by typining its name?03:14
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BlackBsdi guess i mean to ask if kubuntu is based off debian 3.103:14
perrinJucato: all good, restarted gaim and other programs and its fine03:14
perrinJucato: thanks for the help03:14
Jucatonp03:14
Jucato:)03:14
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Bulwinkleicheyne: resolved the deps and now still no install...  uninstalled mysql-server, mysql-server-5.0- apt-get clean- now reinstalling (fingers crossed)03:17
Bulwinklehmmmmm  mysqld fails when it tries to start03:17
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Jorvali have problems mounting a win-share! after mounting i have no stats , cant access the directory. ive did: mount -t smbfs -o username=xxxxx,password=xxxxx //server/share /mnt. has someone an idea ?03:18
icheynesorry Bulwinkle no idea03:20
Jorvalls -la says: ?---------   ? ?    ?        ?                ? mnt03:20
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velleicheyne: I cant find Ocular anywhere...03:21
JucatoOkular is still beta and will be released only in KDE 403:22
Bulwinklemysqld just wont start: http://hashmysql.org/paste/viewentry.php?id=304803:22
[GuS] Bulwinkle, did you checked the logs?03:22
icheynevelle, sorry Okular. I just found this article... http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/11/20/1933239&from=rss03:22
[GuS] /var/log/03:22
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Bulwinkle[GuS] : http://hashmysql.org/paste/viewentry.php?id=304803:24
JucatoOkular won't be out in stable form until KDE 403:24
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icheynevelle, okular is available for testing - http://kpdf.kde.org/okular/03:26
Jucatoyes, for "testing"03:26
daviddoes anyone know which folder the konsole configuration files are in?03:27
velleicheyne: thanks, nice article, extremely relevant for me03:28
icheynevelle, yes it's only 2 days old!03:29
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Bulwinklegot it working used a package from mysql.com03:32
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Alter-Ego!easysource03:33
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:33
azionHello all, could someone help me setup a qis03:34
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azion*widescreen resoliution no 6.10 please03:34
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abattoirazion: which video card?03:35
azionIntel 852GME03:35
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azionCan it be done abattoir?03:41
abattoirazion: oops, sorry, give me a sec03:41
azionabattoir: Take your time03:42
abattoir!fixres03:42
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:42
abattoirazion: ^^^03:42
abattoirazion: click on resolution not delivered by vbios03:42
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azionThanks trying now03:46
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azionWhat repository is 855resolution on?03:49
Dr_willis!find 85503:49
ubotuFound: i855-crt, 915resolution03:49
abattoir!info 855resolution03:49
Dr_willis!info 915resolution03:49
ubotuPackage 855resolution does not exist in any distro I know03:49
ubotu915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)03:49
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Dr_willisLooks like you got a name wrong. :) if it existed it would be in 'universe' it seems.03:50
abattoirhmm, i guess that wiki page is outdated03:50
Dr_willisI would think so .03:50
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azionGot it, thanks03:52
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paitarthi! i'm a newbie KUBUNTU user. how could i install the UBUNTU-desktop from KUBUNTU?04:01
Dr_willissudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop04:02
Dr_willis:) easy eh.04:02
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paitartsalamat!04:04
paitarti tried that one but it gave this message: Couldn't find package ubuntu-desktop04:05
HawkwindSetup your sources correctly04:05
Hawkwind!repos | paitart04:05
ubotupaitart: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:05
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BluesKajHowdy all ! :)04:13
Jucatohi04:14
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BluesKajJucato, ya gotta check this out ...good for a morning laff , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SCJLlSf21Y&mode=user&search=04:19
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vadohello04:28
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paitarthow do i install firefox on kubuntu?04:30
LjLpaitart: sudo apt-get install firefox04:30
paitartoic04:31
paitarttnx LjL04:31
cloakableIs anyone else having problems with GMail and KMail on Edgy?04:31
Jucatonone here04:32
cloakableError: Could not connect to host pop.gmail.com04:32
cloakableBut I can ping it.04:32
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Jucatodid you check the settings for GMail? like ports and authentication method?04:32
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BluesKajworks ok for me04:33
cloakableJucato: Worked before :( Port 995, SSL?04:34
Jucato995, SSL, Clear text04:34
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Dheeraj_kcloakable: r u behind the proxy?04:35
cloakableJucato: Yup, that's my settings.04:35
delight!sldapd04:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sldapd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:35
Jucatohm... works here for me04:35
cloakableDheeraj_k: 'the proxy'?04:35
delight!slapd04:35
ubotuslapd: OpenLDAP server (slapd). In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.26-5ubuntu3.1 (edgy), package size 879 kB, installed size 2432 kB04:35
Dheeraj_kping pop.gmail.com04:36
cloakablePING gmail-pop.l.google.com (66.249.93.109) 56(84) bytes of data.04:36
cloakable64 bytes from 66.249.93.109: icmp_seq=1 ttl=241 time=36.8 ms04:36
cloakable64 bytes from 66.249.93.109: icmp_seq=2 ttl=241 time=34.1 ms04:36
cloakable64 bytes from 66.249.93.109: icmp_seq=3 ttl=241 time=35.9 ms04:36
cloakable--- gmail-pop.l.google.com ping statistics ---04:36
cloakable3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2001ms04:36
cloakablertt min/avg/max/mdev = 34.152/35.631/36.827/1.131 m04:36
LjL!paste04:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:36
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Dheeraj_kchange pop.gmail.com to 66.249.93.109 and than try04:38
cloakableNothing. Effing edgy.04:39
cloakableCould not connect to host again.04:40
cloakableWait a second...04:40
Dheeraj_kr u using firewall?04:41
cloakableYeah, I had port 995 blocked.04:42
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Jucato:P04:43
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Dheeraj_kthats the problem04:43
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cloakableWell, yeah.04:44
cloakableI've unblocked it before you pointed that out, but thanks :)04:44
Dheeraj_kallow KMail to use ssl (995) port04:46
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Alter-Egois there a reason i should not enable backports04:47
cloakableNo04:47
Alter-Ego!easysource04:48
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:48
trappistAlter-Ego: if you're a big stickler for stability.04:48
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trappistAlter-Ego: but if you were that, you'd probably be running debian :)04:48
cloakableDheeraj_k: Yeah :) I did that about 5 mins before you said :P04:48
Alter-Egoheh, edgy is unstable to begin with04:48
cloakableIndeed04:48
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Bulwinklecan someone tell me why I am getting a Transaction failed: cannot lock /var/mail/(USER) when I try to get my mail in kmail?04:53
trappistBulwinkle: sounds like postfix or procmail or somebody's locking it, which is appropriate.  your mail should be spooled in /var/mail but delivered to (and read from, by kmail) your home dir04:56
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londo4hallo, how can I  use this command deb?04:56
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cloakablelondo4: What are you trying to do?04:57
londo4sorry, open the I mean /etc/sources.list04:58
cloakableUm, I don't get your grammar, sorry.04:58
londo4wich command can I use to open the /etc/sources.list?04:59
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trappistlondo4: you mean /etc/apt/sources.list04:59
londo4yes04:59
cloakablelondo4: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list05:00
Jucatocloakable: kdesu please05:00
Jucato!kdesu05:00
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo05:00
cloakableOh.05:00
cloakableI use sudo05:00
Dheeraj_ksudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list05:00
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londo4cloakable: thank man05:01
Bulwinkletrappist: huh?  kmail is reading it from /var/spool/mail/(USER)....05:02
trappistBulwinkle: you mean it's reading from /var/spool/mail but complaining about locks on /var/mail?05:04
delight!hula05:05
ubotuhula: integrated mail & calendar system with simple interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0+svn379-2.1 (edgy), package size 3081 kB, installed size 8452 kB05:05
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Bulwinkletrappist: they are symlinks of each other05:07
trappistBulwinkle: ah that makes sense then.  is your mta delivering straight to that dir?  as I was saying, all the cool guys spool to (say) /var/spool/mail, then deliver (via procmail or the like) to something like ~/Maildir05:08
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Bulwinkletrappist: I'm not very cool...  I guess my mta is delivering to /var/mail/(user)05:08
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mmm_is anybody from turkey05:09
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=== fdoving delivers directly to ~/Maildir :)
trappistBulwinkle: actually it's spooling there.  I'm recommending you do a proper delivery so your MTA and MUA aren't stepping on each other in the spool dir.05:10
alterooHelloo05:10
Bulwinkletrappist: how do I do something cool like that?  would it be in procmail?05:10
trappistBulwinkle: procmail is what I use.  there's some fancy newfangled thing all the kids are using these days, I forget what it's called05:11
alterooI just did a dist-upgrade to edgy based on the instructions at kubuntu.org and now I ccan't connect to the network05:11
alterooIs this an known issue?05:11
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BulwinkleI'm using postfix for the mta...  isn't procmail associated with sendmail?05:11
Dheeraj_k!smile | Bulwinkle:05:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:11
trappistBulwinkle: no, I use postfix/procmail05:12
Bulwinkletrappist: should it do all of that if I just install procmail?05:12
fdovingBulwinkle: you can use procmail to deliver for postfix, take a look at 'mailbox_command'05:12
alterooIs there a way to test to see if edgy has fried my card??05:13
BulwinkleI'm installing procmail now...  love to know what all the "kids" are using....  young whippersnappers05:13
fdovingBulwinkle: http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#mailbox_command05:14
BluesKajalteroo, an OS doesn't put enuff demands on yer card unledd yer running heavy duty games or such05:14
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BluesKajunless05:15
alterooBluesKaj: Well it doesn't work anymore05:15
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BluesKajwhy blame edgy ? ...maybe you need new drivers for the card05:15
BluesKajwhich card is it ?05:15
alteroo I just did an upgrade rebooted and now I can't get a DHCP offer or set my card static05:15
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trappistBulwinkle: I don't know what ubuntu's default procmail config looks like, so I'm not sure.  my mailserver isn't an ubuntu box.05:16
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alterooBluesKaj: new drivers for the card I just used to dist-upgrade?05:16
ubuntutest05:16
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BluesKajsome video cards require new drivers in edgy05:16
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alterooNetwork cards are not video cards05:18
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alteroohi kruemeltee05:18
trappistBulwinkle: I think the new toy is called maildrop05:18
Bulwinkleahhhh05:20
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BluesKajsorry alteroo, thought it was a video card since there are so many questions about them lately..  :(05:20
trappistBulwinkle: yeah, just looked it up.  that's the one I was thinking of.05:20
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alterooBluesKaj: Thanks :)05:21
alterooIs there a history of Network cards dying in Edgy?05:23
BluesKajdon't hear to many Q's about network cards ...lotsa Q's about samba and cups for network printing and access etc05:23
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BluesKajwell alteroo, I have yet to see that Q...been hanging out here for just a few months , but never heard of any card dying due to an upgrade05:25
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alteroook05:26
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jldomingoalteroo: did you test if the module is loaded? What's the module of your network card?05:28
jldomingoDid you run depmod -a?05:29
alteroonope05:29
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jldomingoDo you know how modules work in linux, and how to manually setup the network?05:30
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paitartne1 here kubuntu users in manila/philippines?05:31
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fdoving!ph05:31
ubotuJoin #ubuntu-ph for tagalog05:31
fdoving:)05:32
paitartmabuhay05:32
Jucato:)05:32
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kaiwasup05:32
Jucatoheh :P05:32
trappistsomebody can't write that !ph message in tagalog?05:32
Jucatotrappist: our LoCo leader didn't want to05:32
trappistI see05:32
kaiJucato: guess what, remeber that thing you was helping me with05:33
trappistJucato: most filipinos speak english?05:33
Jucatokai: which thing?05:33
paitartis there a kubuntu newbie website?05:33
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kaiJucato: the javac thing05:33
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Jucatokai: ah05:33
paitarttrappist: may i butt in? yes, filipinos speak english. we're the third or fourth largest english speaking nation.05:33
kaiJucato: it mercked my profile05:34
trappistpaitart: thanks, didn't know that05:34
Jucatokai: javac?05:34
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Jucatowhat exactly did I say? (I don't recall anything about javac.. coz I don't even know what it is)05:35
kaiJucato: I was tryin to put the java root in my classpath05:35
Jucatothat wasn't me then05:35
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Jucatobecause all I know about java is installing it and setting the default java to Sun05:35
DaSkreechjldomingo: Thanks :-)05:35
kaiJucato: I think I put it in wrong somewheree, I put in one spot but I had put it somewhere else and that may had screwed it up05:36
kaican you help me out with that later on? I gotta real install my system05:36
kai....again05:36
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Jucatoprobably, but I don't know JRE stuff05:37
JucatoI mean JDK05:37
ubuntuI am partitoning my drive before I install Edgy (I do this from the live cd), but it has gone ten minutes and the aprtioning bar says 0 percent05:37
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ubuntuaprtioing means partitoning05:37
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kaiyea05:38
ubuntuHow long should it take?05:38
kaiJucato: I'm a wanna be jaa devel and I like to write java freehand using kate05:38
jldomingoubuntu: open a console and take a look for if there's some partition mounted (in use)05:38
Jucatokai: sorry I can't help you there... :(05:39
kaiJucato: why not, if you can set it to defualt, i think that mayb all I need to do to compile05:39
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snowrichardhi05:43
ubuntuThanks05:44
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ubuntuReally sweet, install while surfing the net05:44
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DaSkreechOK I'd like a recommendation05:50
JucatoO.o05:50
DaSkreechthere are whole set of Python- packages which seem to have been deprecated05:51
DaSkreechshould I remove them or upgrade them?05:51
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trappistDaSkreech: if they're deprecated, even if you need them, their functionality is likely replaced.  I'd remove em.05:52
DaSkreechtrappist: Well to be more specific they were removed from the ubuntu-minimal package so .. can I assume i don't need them?05:54
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trappistDaSkreech: if nothing else depends on them, yes05:55
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Giangihi05:55
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DaSkreechtrappist: Is there an easy way to figure out if something depends on them?05:56
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trappistDaSkreech: try to uninstall them, and see if they want to take anything else with them05:57
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DaSkreechtrappist: >_< It's a whole lot of them. Guess I'll do them one by one05:58
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lalo_hello all06:01
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lalo_can so help me............? i wanna know how to shring movies on linux06:01
lalo_is there any application as movie shrink for linux?06:01
DaSkreech!dvd06:02
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages06:02
DaSkreechAhmm06:02
DaSkreech!dvdshrink06:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvdshrink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:02
trappist!transcode06:02
ubotutranscode: Utility to encode raw video/audio streams. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0.2-0.8ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2293 kB, installed size 5424 kB06:02
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lalo_but movies arent on dvd format...there are on avi or mpeg, divx format06:03
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trappist!dvd::rip06:03
ubotudvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.1-0.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 718 kB, installed size 2084 kB06:03
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DaSkreechlalo_: If htey are divx they are already pretty much shrunk06:03
DaSkreechUnless you are going mp4 and I'd highly advise not to go from Divx to mp406:04
trappistgood point06:04
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DaSkreechAnyone uses basket?06:04
ranceis anyone using the new free vmware server in kubuntu?  I checked the package db and found vmware player, but not server.  vmware will let you download either a rpm or a tar of binaries and I was just checking if anyone had been able to make it work?06:06
dgiulianDaSkreech whats that?06:06
DaSkreech!basket06:06
ubotubasket: User-friendly way to run programs and manage links in KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-6 (edgy), package size 334 kB, installed size 1176 kB06:06
DaSkreech!basket | dgiulian06:06
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JucatoI use basket, but not the version from the repos...06:07
snowrichardI installed the 6.10 dvd.  Its pretty nice.06:07
DaSkreechdgiulian: http://basket.kde.org06:07
Jucato(or I try to learn to use basket... or like it even..)06:07
DaSkreechJucato: Which version?06:07
Jucato0.606:08
DaSkreechJucato: .deb?06:10
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snowrichardhad to switch the video driver from "nv" to "vesa" because nv freezes on my system.06:10
Jucatoyes. from basket.kde.org06:10
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DaSkreechJucato: It spits nasty errors at me06:11
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Jucatohm... I have no idea why it wouldn't work06:12
Jucatodo you have the older version installed?06:12
DaSkreechYes06:13
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DaSkreechGive it Da boot first?06:13
Jucatonot necessarily06:13
Jucatowhat errors do you get?06:13
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DaSkreechJucato: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/26253006:14
Jucatohm... strange errors...06:15
Jucato(meaning I haven't encountered those yet...06:15
helgeJust got Efty, but my bluetooth doesnt work properly, like it did in dapper. I can send to computer but from computer to phone.06:15
helgebut NOT from computer to phone06:15
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DaSkreechEfty :-)06:17
aluno_alguem?06:17
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ermaki am trying to install ati drivers on Kubuntu/Edgy, version 8.29.6, I have made steps described here: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide06:17
helgeEdgy then06:17
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ermakbu have this:06:18
ermakfglrxinfo06:18
ermakdisplay: :0.0  screen: 006:18
ermakOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org06:18
ermakOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect06:18
ermakOpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)06:18
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ermakcan anyone help me. please?06:18
ermakalso I have this:06:18
ermakdmesg | grep fglrx06:18
ermak[17179587.364000]  fglrx: version magic '2.6.17-10-generic SMP mod_unload 586 REGPARM gcc-4.0' should be '2.6.17-10-generic SMP mod_unload 586 REGPARM gcc-4.1'06:18
ermak[17179592.028000]  fglrx: version magic '2.6.17-10-generic SMP mod_unload 586 REGPARM gcc-4.0' should be '2.6.17-10-generic SMP mod_unload 586 REGPARM gcc-4.1'06:18
ermak[17179596.028000]  fglrx: version magic '2.6.17-10-generic SMP mod_unload 586 REGPARM gcc-4.0' should be '2.6.17-10-generic SMP mod_unload 586 REGPARM gcc-4.1'06:18
ermak?06:18
DaSkreechermak: have you asked in #ubuntu-xgl ?06:19
BluesKaj!pastebin > ermak06:19
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ermakDaSkreech: ok, I ll try there06:20
DaSkreechBluesKaj: thanks06:21
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ermakBluesKaj: thanks, I have not known about this service06:21
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DaSkreechSomething is up with Konversation :-(06:23
DaSkreechit doesn't flash when people say my name and it flashes when people don't06:23
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AyabaraI just went over from ubuntu to kubuntu. what is a good image viewer in kubuntu? gwenview?06:27
kaibrb06:27
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mohammedhey guys , how to upgrade linux kernel om kubuntu ?06:28
DaSkreechmohammed: If you have the repos you can just apt-get install them06:29
Admiral_Chicago!seen Jucato06:29
ubotuI last saw Jucato (n=jucato@124.106.179.196) 8h 31m 10s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection06:29
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mohammedexcuse me , i'm noob to this ! but I noticed kernel version 2.6.19 is out06:30
DaSkreechmohammed: Where?06:30
mohammedhttp://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Linux_Kernel/1144175077/106:31
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HawkwindDaSkreech: It was released yesterday06:33
HawkwindI've got 2.6.19 built and installed here, just haven't booted to it yet06:33
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mohammedyeah , kernel.org is updated06:33
DaSkreechHawkwind: tell that to mohammed :)06:33
HawkwindIt was updated last night, as I built it around 8pm my time06:33
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HawkwindDaSkreech: You asked where, so I told you :)06:33
snowrichardHi Hawkwind.  Just put Kubuntu on my P406:33
Hawkwindsnowrichard: Hey there.  Welcome to the dark side :)06:34
nagyvis here someone who could help me with bluetooth? I would like to use my SonyEricsson as a remote controller, I have found a site to set up my controller (http://stefans.datenbruch.de/k750i/remote.shtml), but something is wrong. In syslog I get the following error: HID create error 2 (no such file or directory) Any ideas?06:34
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mohammedso guys , what to do ?06:34
DaSkreechmohammed: Why do you need this kernel?06:34
BluesKajHawkwind, are there any advantages to this kernel upgrade ?06:35
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mohammedI just wanna know how to do the process .. I'm learning about linux06:35
DaSkreechmohammed: Well for Kubuntu you can kick back for a few days while the system processes it and stablizes it06:36
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nagyvAyabara: some people prefer gwenview other digikam06:36
mohammedwill be a configured kernel for kubuntu ?06:37
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DaSkreechmohammed: correct06:37
DaSkreechmohammed: If you want to tune one specifically for yourself you can build the kernel yourself as Hawkwind has done06:37
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mohammedoh , ok I'll hang around untill then .. thank you06:38
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Hawkwindmohammed: I have a script and a how-to that does it all for you and builds deb packages of the kernel06:38
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mohammedwill apperciate this ! how can I get it ?06:39
Hawkwindmohammed: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/CompilingYourOwnKernel06:39
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Hawkwindmohammed: The script is at the bottom of that wiki page06:39
Ayabaranagyv, ok. I'll stick with gwenview than :-)06:40
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nagyvAyabara: I would recommend you to try out digikam too, you can never know! :)06:40
mohammedok , will it work for configured kubuntu kernel as well as generic linux kernel ?06:41
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Hawkwindmohammed: I've used it for about 2 months.  It will allow you to use your current .config file to build the new kernel with06:41
Hawkwindmohammed: You can of course change anything you want as far as modules and things like that06:41
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BluesKaj!picasa06:42
ubotuPicasa from Google can be downloaded in .deb format from: http://picasa.google.com/linux/download.html06:42
mohammedok , thank you!06:42
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ottitowhat's going on06:43
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ottitoi have just installed k in my ltp06:44
ottitoneed some help06:44
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nagyvottito: ask! :)06:44
DaSkreechhi tackat06:44
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DaSkreech!ask06:45
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:45
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staniis it possible to autostart an application as minimized (~/.kde/Autostart) or to open it in another workspace?06:45
fdovingstani: yes, use kstart06:46
tackator dcop06:46
fdovingstani: man:/kstart in konqueror.06:46
tackatyou should go for kstart though06:46
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fdovingtackat: how do you do that with dcop?06:47
stanigreat, this is wat I really needed06:47
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tackatfdoving: e.g. dcop kontact kontact-mainwindow#1 minimize06:48
tackatfdoving: dcop kontact kontact-mainwindow#1 minimize06:48
tackatfdoving: or whatever application you're using06:49
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tackatThat way you can almost do anything to your application you want to06:50
fdovingtackat: ok, that would only work for apps with dcop support. kstart works for all gui apps.06:50
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tackatfdoving: Right. However most KDE applications do have dcop support and support for the mainwindow stuff is the most basic thing that gets always implemented06:51
BluesKaj!kernel06:51
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild06:51
tackat!Marble06:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Marble - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:51
Vladdy!don't know :D06:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about don't know :D - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:52
tackat!sex06:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:52
LjL!botabuse06:52
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)06:52
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tackatok, sorry to the ops then ;)06:53
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Vladdyhehehhe06:53
trappisttackat: feel free to play with the bot in pmsg: /msg ubotu somethingstupid06:53
BluesKajwhat ops ? :)06:54
Vladdyhehehe06:54
Vladdythey're hidden ;p06:54
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BluesKajchickens...   :)06:54
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Vladdybit high up there :D06:54
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fdoving:)06:54
LjLshowoffs06:54
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Vladdyhehe.. only ops i have is in #cross-lfs, enough for me ;p06:55
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BluesKajhiding ops ...must have peeved some ppl off06:55
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Vladdy/ns set help06:56
Vladdyoeps06:56
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maxpaxanyone from Italy ?06:57
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snowrichard-+06:59
BluesKaj!it06:59
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!06:59
snowrichardkklkjklhjkl;hkl;h07:00
vadoBonsoir tout le monde07:01
stani!fr07:01
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:01
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DexterFhi. how's the 6.10 dvd different from the cd? what's extra?07:04
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outimeDexterF, a lot of packages more07:04
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kaihow can I remove gnome and everything associated with it?07:05
kaiI want nothing to do with gnome07:05
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DexterFoutime: figures. base system is the same?07:06
outimekai, try with 'apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop'07:06
kaiI did that07:06
outimeSame, DexterF07:06
DexterFanother thing: 6.10 live out of the box with beryl/aiglx?07:06
trappistkai: try debfoster07:06
kaibut I wan all the applications gone as well07:06
kaitrappist: whats debfoster?07:06
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outimeDexterF, Edgy comes with AIGLX07:07
outimebut not with Beryl07:07
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Voker57hi07:09
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kaibrb07:10
outimek07:10
Kai2Hey07:10
Kai2You07:10
Kai2>:(07:10
Kai2That guy keeps stealing my name07:10
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Kai2I invite you all to shun him07:10
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ras_hi, all07:10
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DexterFoutime: any other window manager for 3D candy?07:10
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outimeCompiz or Beryl are the best07:11
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ras_i'm delete /var/lib/apt/lists. where i can download this file?07:11
Voker57where to get API docs for Kdevelop?07:11
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outimemaybe http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdevelop/ Voker57 ?07:12
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Voker57outime: and as an offline manual?07:12
DexterFoutime: ok: so I can boot the 6.10 live dvd and check if it works, or do I have to do some stunts to use aiglx instead of "ordinary" X?07:13
ras_<outime> knok-knok07:13
outimedownload http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdevelop/kdevelop/kdevelop.pdf07:13
Voker57oh sorry07:13
outimeDexterF, I think that you need to install Edgy to the hard drive to make modifications07:13
ras_i'm delete /var/lib/apt/lists. where i can download this file? (!)07:14
DexterFras_: re-install the package.07:14
ras_<DexterF> dpkg ?07:15
DexterFaptitude rather07:15
nagyvhow can I check if I have support for hid devices in the kernel?07:15
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SlimGcan anyone help me? following command give's me error: flac -d -c input.flac | oggenc -q6 - output.ogg (flac gives following error: ERROR: Multiple files specified when using stdin)07:21
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trappistSlimG: are you sure it's flac giving you that error?07:25
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trappist(looks like oggenc is what's getting files on stdin)07:26
Lam_what package(s) do i install to get amarok visualations?07:26
fdovingSlimG: try to add '-o' before 'output.ogg'07:26
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trappistwhat fdoving said07:27
trappistand put -o output.ogg before the -07:27
fdoving.. good point.07:27
SlimGhmm.. I found out oggenc is capable of decoding .flac, don't need the flac command07:28
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SlimGthis is my working solution: oggenc -q6 input.flac output.ogg07:29
trappistSlimG: looks a lot more effecient07:33
trappist*efficient07:33
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Eeyore-Jrwhat is that program that drops down a term screen when pressing f12?  from the top of the screen?  starts with a k07:34
outimeEeyore-Jr, yakuake07:34
Eeyore-Jr!yakuake07:35
ubotuyakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB07:35
outimeand doesn't start with a k, with a y yep07:35
Eeyore-Jr:-), yep07:35
SlimGtrappist: sure did :)07:35
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fragragI have trouble installing the lame encoder, I get this07:43
fragragfragrag@fragrag-desktop:~/lame-3.97$ sh install-sh07:43
fragraginstall-sh: no input file specified.07:43
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crimsunwhy are you not using lame from multiverse?07:44
crimsun!info lame07:44
ubotulame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB07:44
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fragragOh right, thanks. I forgot that feature07:45
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fragrag!info multiverse07:46
ubotuPackage multiverse does not exist in any distro I know07:46
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fragragAnother newbish question.. how do I get multiverse?07:48
trappist!multiverse | fragrag07:48
ubotufragrag: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:48
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fragragthanks alot07:49
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nagyv!upgrade07:51
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)07:51
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ubuntuhi all07:52
apokryphoshi07:52
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ubuntuis somebodu who can tell me how i make the partitions for Kubuntu?07:53
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_kuja_Parted, QtParted, and the partitioner on the alternate cd all work well.07:53
ubuntui also want to opent them whit windows07:54
_kuja_Open them with windows? Well, you'll need the ext2 driver for windows to do that, which I've heard as much good about as I've heard bad07:54
nagyvhmm, which upgrade method should I choose? the official one or the one recommended by ubotu?07:54
Vladdywww.fs-driver.org :D07:54
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_kuja_nagyv, if in doubt, a clean install will never steer you wrong,.07:55
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nagyv_kuja_: :) actually I just thought about that, but I will miss my actual setup (I mean programs)07:56
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_kuja_Ah.07:56
ubuntulisten to me pls07:56
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ubuntuI have 2 partitions in windows07:57
_kuja_And, what about them?07:57
ubuntuand I want to open in kunbuntu to07:57
Vladdythat's great to know :o07:57
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ubuntuand for kubunto i have 10 Gb free07:57
Vladdyubuntu: you can just open them in kubuntu, no problems there :o07:57
ubuntuI give him manually edit?07:58
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Vladdyyes07:58
_kuja_A few minutes ago it sounded like you were saying it the other way around.... but mounting them read-only in Ubuntu takes minimal effort07:58
ubuntui can't07:58
gravygoatHi - I have an issue with sshd where it stops accepting new connections (and doesn't send out any packets) until I log into the box at a local console.  Then it starts working again for a while.  Anyone seen this problem before?07:58
nagyvwhy isn't there a torrent file for the cd version?07:58
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ubuntuis my first time in kubuntu07:58
ubuntui havent work before07:59
_kuja_Just a moment, I'm looking up the appropriate wiki page(s) ubuntu07:59
ubuntui need to formate them?07:59
_kuja_This should suit, if you want write access to the ntfs partition. It's in beta, but I've heard it works rather reliably ... https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ntfs-3g08:00
_kuja_ubuntu, to install kubuntu, if you haven't already, you'll need a partition free, do you have one?08:00
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ubuntui have08:00
ubuntu3 Gb08:00
_kuja_3gb ... ouch, kind of small.08:00
ubuntuand I net one  with 256 mb fre08:01
ubuntuk08:01
ubuntuwho much i need08:01
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ubuntusomebody told me i need just 208:01
_kuja_3gb will work, just you'll be very limitted on how much extra software you can install.08:01
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ubuntui have windows to on Pc08:02
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ubuntuk08:02
ubuntui give it 9 gb08:02
ubuntuk?08:02
nagyvubuntu: but you wrote that you have 10Gb, aren't you?08:02
_kuja_You'll be able to format the free partition with the Kubuntu installer.08:02
ubuntuis good08:02
unix_infidelubuntu: thatps more than enough.08:02
_kuja_Probably ... wait, 10gb would be good.08:02
unix_infidelubuntu: if you want, you dont even have to physically install it, have you heard of vmware?08:02
ubuntui understand that i need 256 mb for something08:03
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ubuntufor swap08:03
ubuntunot08:03
_kuja_256MB of RAM, probably at least that much for swap too.08:03
unix_infidelubuntu: that depend son how much phyiscal ram you have.08:03
ubuntunot ram08:03
ubuntuhdd08:03
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_kuja_256MB of hard drive space, whatever for?08:03
ubuntui need a small partition for linux-swap08:03
_kuja_Or a larger one if you don't have much RAM, how much RAM does your system have?08:04
ubuntu51208:04
_kuja_256 MB swap should be enough then, should.08:04
ubuntuk08:05
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ubuntuand how i make now08:05
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ubuntufor windows I have  a partition ntfs and a fat32 one08:06
ubuntuand the partition with windows08:06
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_kuja_First, boot up with a Kubuntu Live CD (or other at your option). Open the program QtParted (it can be found in the system menu)08:06
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ubuntuk08:07
ubuntui've open it08:07
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_kuja_In QtParted, create a new partition in the disks free space, assuming it has free, unpartitioned space. Make one partition 256MB with filesystem type Linux Swap, make the other filesystem EXT3, and it can be as much space as you feel like sparing, preferably a minimum of 2gb.08:07
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ubuntui think is k08:08
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n8k99is there a way to safely revert to Dapper from Edgy without having to do a fresh install?08:09
fdovingn8k99: no.08:09
ubuntuand the other partition that i want to open it with wndows to08:09
mc__n8k99: why do you want do so ?08:09
n8k99sux08:09
ubuntuone is ntfs, and other fat3208:09
ubuntuis good08:10
LjL!downgrade08:10
ubotuAttempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.08:10
n8k99mc_ i have issues with the sound08:10
_kuja_!pastebin08:10
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:10
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n8k99it was completely stable on dapper - now it rarely plays for more than five minutes without completely ceasing08:11
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n8k99then when it remains froozen in the background, system performance begins to dramatically detriorate after a day or two08:12
ubuntuand after i open QTParted what i do next08:12
ubuntu?08:12
_kaiwhats the website for the repositores?08:12
_kuja_ubuntulog: can you show me what your filesystem table looks like now? Use this command in a terminal and it will print it out: sudo parted /dev/hda print You should probably use the pastebin. I'd just like to a good idea of what it looks like right now (assuming that you have an idea hard drive that is master on the first cable)08:13
_kuja_!universe08:13
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:13
_kaidoes that include the multiverse one as well08:13
LjL_kai: it explains how to enable all of them, yes08:14
_kuja_Same page for all the info, AFAIK08:14
LjLthere's also08:14
LjL!easysource08:14
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:14
_kaithank u08:14
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ubuntui type that in terminal and what?08:15
ubuntu!!!08:15
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ubuntui have a black screen08:15
ubuntuin konsole i type right?08:16
ubuntu!!!!!!!!!!!08:16
_kuja_Right08:16
_kuja_type: sudo parted /dev/hda print08:16
ubuntui have a black screen08:16
_kuja_Yep08:16
ubuntuand prnt08:16
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scotty_hello08:16
ubuntuand how i send you that08:16
LjLno need to spam, ubuntu08:17
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_kuja_!pastebin08:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:17
ubuntuin konsole?08:17
_kuja_yes, sudo parted /dev/hda print, in konsole08:18
ubuntuis dun that08:18
ubuntuhow i send u the result08:18
_kuja_And i'm presuming it said something?08:18
ubuntuyup08:18
_kuja_Use the pastebin08:18
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ubuntuhow08:18
ubuntuDisk geometry for /dev/hda: 0kB - 123GB08:19
_kaiI have one last question08:19
ubuntuDisk label type: msdos08:19
ubuntuNumber  Start   End     Size    Type      File system  Flags08:19
ubuntu1       32kB    16GB    16GB    primary   ntfs         boot08:19
ubuntu2       16GB    123GB   107GB   extended               lba08:19
ubuntu5       16GB    63GB    47GB    logical   ntfs08:19
ubuntu6       63GB    110GB   47GB    logical   fat3208:19
ubuntu7       110GB   110GB   271MB   logical   linux-swap08:19
ubuntu8       110GB   123GB   13GB    logical08:19
ubuntuInformation: Don't forget to update /etc/fstab, if necessary.08:19
Lynoureubuntu: please, next time use a pastebin08:19
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_kaiIm trying to install opera and I get an error saying my "ar" is not in my classpath08:19
ubuntui dont now how08:20
ubuntu:)08:20
Lynoure!pastebin | ubuntu08:20
ubotuubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:20
ubuntuk08:20
ubuntusorry08:20
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ubuntuand wre i type !pastebin or were i find it?08:21
_kuja_ubuntu, it looks like you've got one filesystem left to create. You need to create an ext3 filesystem for kubuntu at the end of the disk. It says you've got 13 gig free at the end.08:21
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ubuntuhere in the qtparter i don't seeit08:23
_vgecan i somehow make app not to ask sudo password when running kde apps?08:23
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ubuntui have one with 7.85 mb free08:24
_kuja_8       110GB   123GB   13GB    logical08:24
_kuja_This line says you've got an unformatted 13GB partition.08:24
ubuntuthere i see but here....08:24
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ubuntuhow u say i give a !pastebin08:25
ubuntu?08:25
_kuja_Huh?08:25
ubuntui can do it to qtparter?08:25
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ubuntui can do it to qtparted?08:25
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_kuja_You would have QtParted format the partition, yes.08:25
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ubuntuwhait a second08:26
_kuja_Unless you're feeling really brave, in which case, you could use "mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda" in Konsole.08:26
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_kuja_**"mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda8"08:26
afm\colossushow can i force a lvm2-logical volume to take up all remaining space in a given volume group?08:26
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hyper_chhiya, again I got a little english question: What is the difference between the "remembering self" and "rememberd self"? For me as non-native speaker there is no difference08:27
_kuja_Remembering self would mean you are doing so currently, remembered would mean you did so in the past.08:27
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ubuntunow it say ;"Don't frget to update /etc/fstab, if necessary"08:27
hyper_ch_kuja_: thx for that quick anser :)08:28
ubuntunow it say ;"Don't forget to update /etc/fstab, if necessary"08:28
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_kuja_no problem hyper_ch08:28
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_kuja_ubuntulog: you may want to reboot after making the changes, to make sure it made them final.08:28
ubuntui dont save them?08:29
ubuntuis dun08:29
ubuntu?08:29
_kuja_It should be done.08:29
_kuja_Can you pastebin the results of "sudo parted /dev/hda print" again? That way we can be sure it's formatted.08:30
_kuja_Before you move on to installing.08:30
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ubuntui forgot how to pastebin08:31
ubuntu;(08:31
Homerdoes JPG support transparancy?08:31
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_vgeno08:31
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ubuntutell me again pls08:31
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_kuja_!pastebin08:31
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:31
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ubuntuhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34987/08:34
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ubuntulike this?08:34
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_kuja_Yep.08:35
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ubuntuwhat i do next08:35
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_kuja_That looks right, you should be good to start the install.08:36
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_kuja_Be extra careful during the partitioning step of the install to make sure it uses that partition! Partition /dev/hda8, an ext3 partition.08:36
paitartis it possible to make firefox the default browser on kubuntu 6.06? if so, how could i do it?08:36
_kuja_Whether the installer formats that or not doesn't matter, because it's empty anyway.08:37
_kuja_paitart yes08:37
Vladdy-paitart: for kde programs it can be set in control panel08:37
Vladdy-or system settings, not sure what it's called in english ;-)08:38
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_kuja_paitart: go to system settings: Default Applications -> Web Browser on the left -> change it to "in the following browser" and type in firefox08:38
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fragrag!youtube08:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about youtube - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:38
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fragragThought that it might have the fix of no sound in youtube.. :(08:38
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_kuja_fragrag, that's a flash problem, actually.08:39
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_kuja_Are you using Flash 7, Flash 9b1, or Flash 9b2?08:39
ubuntuwhait a second08:39
ubuntui go in system and were?!1!08:39
ubuntuKmenu-System..............08:40
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saanina__hi08:40
_kuja_I was talking to paitart when I said that...08:40
paitartthanks _kuja_, Vladdy!08:40
paitartbye!08:40
_kuja_Anyway ubuntu, there should be an icon for install on the desktop, all you have to do is click it to start the install process08:40
ubuntuk08:40
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saaninahi08:41
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saanina_hi08:41
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ubuntui have here: The attempt to mount a file system with type in IDE1 master, partition #6(hda6) at media/hda6 faild.08:43
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DaSkreechHow do I use parted?08:43
_kuja_start it up in the konsole, and type sudo parted08:44
xapientjoin #ubuntu-classroom08:44
DaSkreech_kuja_: Right got that far08:44
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_kuja_type help to get a list of commands...... most important ones are print to print the filesystem table08:44
DaSkreechWhen I select a device I don't choose a partition right?08:44
DaSkreechso /dev/hda no hda308:44
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DaSkreechnot08:44
_kuja_select DEVICE for changing the device you want to partitiong (ie: /dev/hda)08:44
DaSkreech_kuja_: Not partition right?08:45
_kuja_right08:45
DaSkreechok08:45
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DaSkreechmkfs ?08:45
DaSkreechmkfs <partitionnumber> <filesystem>08:45
DaSkreech?08:45
_kuja_mkpartfs FS-TYPE START END will create a partition with filesystem08:45
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DaSkreech_kuja_: suppose I already have my partition I just want to get a new file system?08:47
_kuja_rm # will remove a partition (where number = a number, like rm 8 would remove /dev/hda8)08:47
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_kuja_Then mkfs it is08:47
_kuja_you can also use mkpart if you want to make a partition and not put a filesystem on it.08:47
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DaSkreechwhich goes mkfs <partionnumber> <FSTYPE> ?08:48
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DaSkreechdo I need to commit it ? cause it takes less than 3 seconds for a 200 GB Drive08:48
ubuntu_kuja I need to formate all partition?08:48
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_kuja_ubuntu, no, you already have them the way you need them, if you choose that option it might erase everything you have ... I forget what you need to pick to make sure it uses your empty partition08:49
ubuntuor just ext3 and swap08:49
_kuja_Just ext3 and swap08:49
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ubuntuk08:49
DaSkreech_kuja_: Is there a commit command?08:49
_kuja_DaSkreech, 3 seconds isn't bad :)08:49
ubuntui have here: The attempt to mount a file system with type in IDE1 master, partition #6(hda6) at media/hda6 faild.08:49
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_kuja_as soon as you enter the commands they're final DaSkreech08:50
DaSkreech_kuja_: so it's formatted?08:50
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ubuntui think so08:50
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ubuntui give him formate?08:50
Bulwinklecan someone give me a good document to get fetchmail working.  It is running and pulling mail (I have a /var/mail/(user) file) but I can't grab it with kmail....08:50
_kuja_DaSkreech, yes, it should be formatted, if unsure, type print to check08:50
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DaSkreech_kuja_: File System says blank08:51
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_kuja_ubuntu, it will likely have trouble with your ntfs partitions, you can deal with those a bit later, after the install.08:51
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ubuntuk08:51
_kuja_DaSkreech, what filesystem were you using? I remember parted itself having trouble with XFS, that or Jenova may be making up my memory [/finalfantasy7reference] 08:52
DaSkreechFAT3208:52
_kuja_ouch, a Fat partition eh? Hmmmm08:52
DaSkreechIn the man pages it's preinted in all caps so that's what I'm using :)08:52
DaSkreechYeha08:52
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DaSkreechI should think that's the lowest common denominator08:53
_kuja_outside of parted, try using the command mkfs.vfat08:53
DaSkreechUnless it can do NTFS :)08:53
_kuja_Write support to NTFS partitions in Linux is still somewhat experimental.08:53
DaSkreech_kuja_: Like sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/hdb1 ?08:53
DaSkreechEven if LInux made it?08:53
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Lam_what's the best plugin for kubuntu to watch embedded media on websites?08:54
_kuja_That should work DaSkreech, and yeah, even if linux made it.08:54
fragragLam_: you mean like youtube?08:54
_kuja_Which I don't think it can anyway, ie: there's no mkfs.ntfs08:54
DaSkreechntfs3g?08:54
Lam_fragrag: youtube uses flash. i mean like wmv, real, quicktime08:54
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_kuja_Yeah, ntfs3g is still beta, but I've heard it works pretty reliably, then again I've heard of problems with it too.08:55
afm\colossuskmplayer for konqueror08:55
_kuja_Kaffeine's isn't bad, KMPlayer is better08:55
DaSkreechHa ha :-) ok play safe for now08:55
Lam_i don't use konqueror though. i use firefox, else i would use kmplayer08:55
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afm\colossusthen mplayerplug-in08:56
Lam_the kaffeine plugin pops up its own player window and doesn't play from the website08:56
_kuja_Though, when it comes to regular  media playing, Kaffeine's interface blows KMPlayer away ... Hmm, I've got no idea about firefox08:56
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_kuja_Maybe something like mplayer-plugin?08:56
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_kuja_should be the mozilla-mplayer package08:56
_vgei use MediaPlayerConnectivity plugin for firefox08:56
Lam_mplayerplug-in has a weird problem with trying to play video files when it should have firefox prompt for a download instead, but i guess that's my only option. thanks guys08:56
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rexbronDoes anyone know of a good tool to switch tor on and off easily and route all traffic through tor? (like a tool program)08:59
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rexbron!tor08:59
ubotutor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.23-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB08:59
_kuja_Hmm, under what circumstances would it be switching it on/off?09:00
rexbronKind of like http://business.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/26/218227&from=rss09:01
rexbronbut for the entire system09:01
unix_infidelanyone happen to know the setkeymaps command that llows you to use right alt?09:01
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unix_infidelin Console that is.09:01
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_kaiCheck this out: I got all my repository stuff updated and everything, but when i try to add mp3 support and the extracodes, I always get a cannot comit changes error09:04
skokehi, does anybody speak german? ;)09:04
_kaiwhat could be causing that09:04
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afm\colossusja, ich09:04
afm\colossusgibt aber auch deutsche channels fuer [k] ubuntu afaik ;)09:05
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skokeehm, ok, die wren? :) Bzw. vllt. kannst du mji09:06
skokemir auch helfen @ afm\colossus09:06
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yamal!de09:06
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:06
_kuja_unix_infidel ... no idea, but I'm pretty sure if you dig in system-settings under Regional & Accessibility you'd find something for it. Not exactly the Konsole, but said functionality is probably there.09:06
ubuntu_kuja thanks09:06
ubuntui think is working09:07
_kuja_ubuntulog: That's good news09:07
ubuntuafter that i need to see if I can to open that partition whit windows09:07
unix_infidel_kuja_: this has nothing to do with X09:07
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_kuja_I always play with my X key settings, unless I have _my_ keyboard ... which I actually get along with.09:09
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_kuja_Of course, that drives people nuts walking up to my keyboard and realizing that the keys aren't doing the same things, ie: the caps lock doesn't work, certain keys are switched, an the like09:10
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AbsolutionHello, how come I can hear sound normally on Kubuntu but not in Amarok?09:10
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visik7Absolution: check the audio engine09:12
visik7Absolution: set it on xine+alsa09:12
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_kuja_Also check that Amarok's volume isn't muted09:14
lenscape_kuja_: also check you have suitable decoders installed09:14
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_kuja_Everything I play is ogg ;) , but then again, it's not about me is it?09:15
Absolutionhmm09:15
Absolutionstill not working09:15
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_kuja_What type of file are you trying to play?09:16
Absolutionradio stream09:16
visik7what protocol ?09:16
lenscape_kuja_: you're right. Wrong person :/09:17
Absolutionerr, no clue, I just clicked on the list of radio stations available09:17
AbsolutionIt connects but I just can't hear anything09:17
Daskreech2Absolution: The radio streams Amarok ship with are all mp309:17
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Daskreech2do you have extracodecs ?09:18
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_kuja_In which case you probably want to install the package libxine-extracodecs09:18
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Daskreech2_kuja_: Ah perhaps you cn help09:18
Absolutionok I forgot about the codecs09:18
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_kuja_I'm amazed that I'm actually starting to wake back up ... I actually got past that early afternoon attempt-not-fall-asleep phaze. I'm proud of myself.09:19
AbsolutionOh and another question, how do you open a .deb in Kubuntu?09:20
Daskreech2Amarok says that there aren't enough radio stations in .ogg for them to consider shipping with .ogg stations09:20
Daskreech2Wanna help prove them wrong09:21
Daskreech2Absolution: aas in to see what's inside?09:21
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AbsolutionNo, like in Ubuntu, you can click a .deb and it installs automatically, but in kubuntu it just gives you an archive09:22
Daskreech2Absolution: Right clikc and you should get a Kubuntu package install menu09:23
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Absolutionah ok09:24
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jmaHi, when I restore a session, the restored konqueror windows magically enables the mookmark toolbark even if I had disabled it. But after I disable it again, it keeps disabled until the next session restore. Anyone else here experienced this?09:25
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esaymhow can i see what all files are in a directory in command line?09:26
Daskreech2esaym: ls09:26
esaymhmm09:26
esaymlet me see..09:26
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esaymyou tha man!09:26
Bulwinklehow do I stop an application from starting each time KDE does?09:27
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Daskreech2Bulwinkle: You men when you log in?09:28
esaym'well does ls show files and directories?09:28
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DaSkreechesaym: yes09:28
Digital-PioneerIs there a command I can use to inject my CD drawer without trying to read the CD?09:28
DaSkreechAs long as they are not hidden09:29
Digital-Pioneermount will pull it in, but then tries to... Mount it.09:29
DaSkreechDigital-Pioneer: try eject -t09:29
esaymah, cool09:29
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scherfaBulwinkle: Disable the KDE Session reactivation or try to save a session without that app09:29
Digital-PioneerDaSkreech: Still tries to read.09:29
metresHi guys may someone could help me with kernel compilation...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35002/09:29
DaSkreechDigital-Pioneer: Not sure then09:29
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_kuja_Digital_PIoneer, how about something like "eject -t"09:31
scott_how do I get kde on ubunut...sudo something?09:31
Bulwinklescherfa: done that...  damn thing keeps popping up....09:31
apokryphosscott_: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic09:31
scherfaBulwinkle: Still a link in .kde/autostart ??09:32
_kuja_scott_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop OR kde OR kde-core, the second option being a vanilla kde with a boatload of applications, the third option being the bare essentials, and the first option being Kubuntu09:32
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DaSkreech_kuja_: suggested that already09:33
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Bulwinklescherfa: all I have in there is a .directory09:33
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_kuja_Well, you'd have to turn cd polling in hal off probably09:33
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kgxhey. how can i start konsole maximised?09:34
Digital-Pioneer_kuja_: I'm all ears.09:34
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scherfaBulwinkle: what apokucation are you talking from ?09:34
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_kuja_Digital Pioneer: sytstem settings -> notifications -> Storage Media Notifications -> Advanced09:34
Bulwinkleapokucation? que?09:34
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Lynourekgx: There is a setting section for that, but right-click and Configure Window Behaviour should take you there09:35
scherfaBulwinkle: Sorry just eating ... application09:35
jaktUpheh09:35
Bulwinklescherfa: it is the powernow thingy....09:35
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Bulwinklescherfa: I'm running the klaptop applet instead09:36
jaktUpk, i'm big linux n00b09:36
jaktUpwhut can i use to serve files with?09:36
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jaktUplike omen for windows09:36
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_kuja_I've never used omen, what is it?09:37
scherfaBulwinkle: Ahh .. and powernowd pops up a window each time you log in ...09:37
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jaktUpit makes a list of the files you wanna share09:37
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jaktUpomenserve09:37
Digital-Pioneer_kuja_: I see "Update file access timestamps" "Allow Executables" "Allow the SUID and SGID attribues" and "Allow device points", then three textboxes labeled "Options:", "fs_freq:", and "fs_passno:".09:37
_kuja_As far as serving files goes, you could set up an ftp server or something, if you wanted to.09:37
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Bulwinklescherfa: exactly.... in the applet tray09:38
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jaktUpnah, there's gotta be a script09:38
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jaktUpi dunt like ftp09:38
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_kuja_Right click on a folder and go to sharing? I'm not sure how well it works ... I'm paranoid afterall.09:38
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Bulwinkleand how about that darn old Korganizer reminder script!!!!  how do I keep that from showing up when I run kontact09:39
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_kuja_Hmm, seems like it might only do for locat sharing though09:39
_kuja_*local09:39
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jaktUpnah09:40
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jaktUpi'll worry bout it after kubuntu finishes installin09:40
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scherfaBulwinkle:09:41
_kuja_So sleepy .... I need caffeine =.=09:41
kgxLynoure: that doesn't seem to work. it seems to start off as full screen but quickly gets resized again09:41
Bulwinklescherfa: ?09:41
scherfaBulwinkle: Do you have a /etc/default/powernowd file ?09:41
jeff_any idea how i can get mp3 to play over network? (all K/Ubuntu net)09:41
scherfaIf not ... i have no idea .. sorry09:41
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Bulwinklescherfa: nope09:42
_kuja_jeff_, would that be an nfs network, or a samba network?09:42
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jeff_samba for the xbox09:42
scherfaBulwinkle: If not ... i have no idea .. sorry09:42
Bulwinkleokay thanks!09:42
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sidahmedhi09:43
ironfroggycan anyone think of a good reason that i would be able to start secondary X sessions, but when trying to switch virtual terminals to an existing X session, i get a corrupted screen and a repeatedly restarting X server?09:43
jeff_do i still have to mount the drive like with windoze?09:43
_kuja_jeff_:Couple ways you could do it. One way is to use smbfs to mount it like you would any other filesystem. Another way is to just add the samba location to the list, it should be able to do it.09:43
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jeff_cool thanks09:44
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ironfroggyor at least a repeatedly reseting monitor and a completely unresponsive environment (i cant even ctrl+alt+F1 to a console!)09:44
_kuja_ironfroggy, I'm almost certain that's a video driver problem.09:44
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_kuja_And if you mention the letters ATI I'll be *dead* certain.09:45
jaktUphah09:45
ironfroggythats funny09:45
snowicewhere can I find packages libdvdcss and w32codecs?09:45
ironfroggybecause ive had far less trouble with my ATI cards than any other manufacturer's.09:45
_kuja_The hardwares fine, but there drivers ..... ugggghhhhhhhhhhh09:45
snowiceironfroggy, did you also have problems with Matrox cards?09:46
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winbond!codecs09:46
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:46
ironfroggyi know its possible with my card. my old gentoo installation did not have this problem, so im assuming there must be something i can do about it. i just have no idea what that could possibly be.09:46
jeff__kuja_: adding to the list didnt help so i guesss i will have to mount again09:46
ironfroggysnowice: my matrox cards arent in any of my linux boxen.09:47
winbondwhy not09:47
_kuja_Seeing as you haven't mentioned what you've got yet, what card do you actually have?09:47
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_kuja_jeff_ smbfs will allow you to mount the share transparently .... sudo apt-get install smbfs09:48
ironfroggy_kuja_: a basic intel chipset09:48
jeff_ya thanks09:48
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ironfroggyin this particular box09:48
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jeff_had to do it when the server was M$09:48
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winbondwhy doesnt amarok play flac OOB?09:49
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snowicewinbond, amarok has problems with flac since the last version of xine09:51
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winbondsnowice: damnit , that sucks , thanks09:51
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snowicewinbond, it sure does!09:51
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winbondsnowice: what did they improve in new xine?09:52
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imbecilei am trying to make an ext3 partition using qtparted because im getting a desktop and im going to use desktop as my linux machine i have formatted the drive, do i just delete the partition? any help would be appreciated09:52
imbecileerr im trying to make ext3 into ntfs i mean09:52
snowicewinbond, can check the whole list here http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=43105709:53
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_kuja_imbecile: I don't think QtParted can make NTFS partitions09:53
ironfroggyany ideas how i can get some debug data in such situations at least?09:54
jaktUphah09:54
imbecile_kuja_, dang... any bootable tools you can reccomend?09:54
jaktUpntfs? holy cow09:54
jaktUpdrive abuse09:54
imbecilei need to restore windows on this lappy so i can return it09:54
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_kuja_imbecile: Asides from Windows, and perhaps MS-DOS, I don't know of any. (which doens't necessarily mean they aren't there)09:54
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jaktUpdo ya have a boot floppy?09:55
ubuntuhi! i am looking for info on best way to use kubuntu from a professional laptop (RHE3) : would like to have kubuntu ISO booting from hard disk, and yet be able to install new packages and save user data in a kubuntu-dedicated directory.09:55
_kuja_If you have the windows install disk, it can make the partition for you.09:55
imbecile_kuja_, i tried just reinstalling and its not working09:56
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_kuja_Any idea why it's not working?09:56
_kuja_Any errors?09:56
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imbecilenope it goes through the install and lags really bad, it gots to 0 seconds left and still has like 40% left to install09:57
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_kuja_That certainly doesn't help any .... if you have another copy of the windows install disk, use it, perhaps the disk is damaged?09:58
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imbecilewhat will happen if i delete the partition?09:58
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_kuja_Oh, and before putting windows back on it so youc an return it, I'm assuming you've already deleted all of the partitions right? That will make it easier on the (rather finicky) windows installer.09:58
imbecilei just got the laptop friday09:58
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_kuja_Why returning it so soon?09:58
maddog39errr i just made the switch from Ubuntu (for 1.5 years using it) to kubuntu and havent ever used KDE really, once or twice09:58
imbecileahh ill try thAT09:59
maddog39by why the heck does adept crash OCNSTAntly09:59
maddog39Constantly*09:59
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imbecileit had problems with dead pixels09:59
jaktUp98% install w00t09:59
imbecilebrand new too :/09:59
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_kuja_maddog39: no idea ... never really crashes for me ... then again, I don't use it very often. Technically speaking it's a "functional alpha"09:59
_kuja_To see what I mean type apt-cache show adept in konsole for its description10:00
maddog39cshields?? isnt that referring to corey shields?10:00
maddog39of OSL10:00
cshields:)10:00
cshieldsyou bet10:00
maddog39lol10:00
maddog39i watched ur splunk video10:00
jaktUpk, i'll be back with all my q's when i boot this kubuntu10:00
maddog39haha10:00
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cshieldshahaha  great.  *sigh*10:00
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maddog39lol10:00
_kuja_Hm, they changed the description since dapper though10:00
cshieldsI've gained fans and enemies both from that stunt   :)10:01
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imbecileive figured it out i think!!!!!10:01
_kuja_What stunt?10:01
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imbeciledang ive been screwing with this for 7 hours already today10:01
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cshieldsso quick question.    just tossed ubuntu & kubuntu on to my dual g5  (gentoo's X broke and I was tired of crying over it)   but amaroK doesn't seem to let me add collection dirs outside of /media and /home10:02
cshieldsis there a way to get around that?10:02
ZmAYhello, when i delete files, they appear to be deleted but they are still taking place on hdd, nothing changes when i write "df", any help10:02
maddog39XMMS pwnz them all10:02
maddog39:P10:02
_kuja_cshields, edit the file /.hidden so it doesn't hide everything else. It was a bad move to do that in edgy IMO10:03
cshieldshahaha   (gentoo just pulled that, too..  another reason I jumped)10:03
maddog39yea i know10:03
maddog39i just installed Kubuntu my second KDE distro ever10:03
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maddog39and its frustrating10:03
maddog39 me10:03
cshieldsI seriously love amaroK..   want it to have my babies..   but sometimes it just crashes, and xmms always works..10:03
maddog39im normally a gnome/ubuntu user10:03
maddog39yea it does10:03
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DexterFZmAY: try sync10:04
cshields_kuja_: awesome, thanks!!   (I can see where that is helpful to keep a n00b safe from themselves..)10:04
_kuja_maddog39: kubuntu is a bit rough around the edges ... I'm pondering downloading the source now and building with full debugging and seeing if I can root some of it out actually.10:04
ZmAYjust sync?10:04
ZmAYnothing happened10:04
maddog39hmm ok10:04
maddog39awsome10:04
DexterFZmAY: now df10:04
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ZmAYi did, still the same10:05
imbecilei will bbiab... thanks you guys10:05
DexterFhm. shrug.10:05
dan14hello all10:05
_kuja_cshields: oh, and don't delete it, or it will come back, which is why I specified "edit" it, as opposed to remove it10:05
snowiceHobbsee, libdar3c2a is missing in the repos, is that fixable? Kdar depends on it.10:05
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dan14has anyone had any luck getting the beta nvidia drivers working with beryl?10:05
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cshields_kuja_: right, I just removed /mnt  (got a cpl of, *ahem* samba mounts where the muzac sits)   ;)10:06
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Hobbseesnowice: kdar doesnt actually build anymomre.10:06
_kuja_***erm, post-beta10:06
Hobbseesnowice: not with any of the versions of kdar10:06
dan14_kuja_: how about beryl with any nvidia drivers?10:06
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Hobbseesnowice: it really should be removed from the archive, i guess10:06
_kuja_dan14: haven't actually touched beryl, though i'm thinking about it.10:07
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dan14_kuja_:its quite nice... i have it working with an ati laptop... i though nvidia was supposed to be easier than ati to get working10:07
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snowiceHobbsee, ok thanks, in that case I just use dar from now on10:08
_kuja_dan14: they are, or rather they will be in feisty, which will have the latest nvidia drivers, which have aiglx support (as opposed to the older ones that don't), by default.10:08
Hobbseesnowice: the only thing i didnt try was getting the development kdar to build with the development dar - but i figured that was too risky10:08
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_kuja_(and when I say by default, I don't mean installed in a vanilla kubuntu install, but rather that's the package that will be in the repositories)10:09
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snowiceHobbsee, you're right, after all we're dealing with backups, I wouldn't wanna take any chances on that.10:10
Hobbseesnowice: exactly10:10
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_kuja_The last time I gambled with my backups I lost :(10:12
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maddog39holy shiz! Konquerer is like twice as fast as FF lol10:15
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maddog39sry if u already knew that, like first time using KDE10:15
maddog39for me10:15
cshieldsit's quick..   misses a few things for some google sites though (like gmail)10:16
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Kr4t05This may be irrelevant, but doesn't it have some security issues, too?10:16
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maddog39which Konquerer or FF?10:17
Kr4t05Kong10:17
Kr4t05Konq*10:17
maddog39oh idk but i dont shop online ever anyway10:17
scherfaHello is a .Net hacker here ?10:17
maddog39no10:17
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maddog39except to pay my hosting bil10:17
maddog39l10:17
maddog39thats it10:17
soulrideruhm, does anyone know how i can install an additional dictionary on open office ?10:18
Rumo_maddog39:did you already open an audio cd with konqueror?10:18
cshields-shrug- everything has security issues, we just don't always know what they are (yet)..   ;)10:18
maddog39no10:18
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Rumo_try it, you'll like it10:18
maddog39hmm ok10:18
cshieldssoulrider: is it packaged like an extension (OOo > 2.0.4 iirc)?10:18
maddog39will do right now10:18
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cshieldssoulrider: if so, try Tools -> Package Manager10:19
soulrider_hold on, phone10:19
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maddog39dang i opened the CD in knonq and it came up blank10:20
maddog39lol10:20
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Rumo_strange10:20
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Rumo_you should see several directorys, like 'mp3', 'ogg', 'flac', 'wav' etc.10:21
maddog39nope10:22
maddog39its blank10:22
maddog39:/10:22
maddog39i even tried refreshing10:22
maddog39this is a regular music CD i burned10:22
maddog39it doesnt have raw mp3's on it10:22
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Rumo_no, but there should be virtual directories10:23
maddog39amarok is giving me errors that it cant read it either10:23
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maddog39and it works fine on my CD player10:23
Rumo_ok, if you open an audio-cd which works, konqueror shows directories which are not really there10:24
maddog39ah10:24
maddog39nice10:24
Rumo_you can drag-and-drop them to a directory and it will be ripped to the appropriate format10:24
maddog39sweet10:24
maddog39how can i make the clock non-military time10:25
maddog39there's no option for it10:25
soulridersorry, im back10:25
cshieldsright click it, then date/time format10:25
Rumo_your kde or your general system clock?10:25
cshieldsunder time & dates, pull down the box for Date format10:25
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maddog39the clock applet10:26
maddog39in the dock10:26
maddog39shows military time10:26
maddog39im in date & format10:26
maddog39but it doesnt help me much10:26
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maddog39i want the 12 hour system not the 24 hour system10:27
cshieldsright.  do what I just said and it'll change10:27
cshields:)10:27
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maddog39i know im in date & format10:28
maddog39but its not helping much lolk10:28
cshieldsyou want to change your time format (not date format, sorry) from HH:MM:SS to pH:MM:SS AMPM10:28
maddog39aahh10:28
maddog39ok10:28
maddog39sweet thx10:28
cshieldsnp10:28
soulridercan someone help me installing the spanish hunspell dictionary for open office ?10:29
cshields(a nice thing about the kicker clock is that you can have multiples..  fex, I have a UTC clock sitting next to my localtime clock)10:29
cshieldssoulrider: did you see my responses above?10:29
soulrideri didnt really get your first response :P10:30
soulriderand then the hpoone rang :P10:30
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cshieldscshields: soulrider: is it packaged like an extension (OOo > 2.0.4 iirc)?10:30
outimeWhen KDE 4 beta comes?10:30
soulriderim not sure10:30
soulrideri just know the package is called10:30
cshieldscshields: soulrider: if so, try Tools -> Package Manager10:30
soulriderhunspell-dictionary-es10:30
soulriderbut i try to isntall it with apt-get10:30
soulriderand sais theres no installation candidate10:31
cshieldsoh.  that part is out of my league.   -shrug-10:31
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BetaCookiesI need an SVN client.. apt-get install svn doesnt work, what is the package naem?10:33
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nagyvBetaCookies: kdesvn10:35
nagyv!svn10:35
ubotusvn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/10:35
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BetaCookiesnagyv: is it using a gui?10:36
nagyvBetaCookies: yes, and I don't really like it :)10:36
BetaCookiesnagyv: yuck is there a way so i can just use it via console?10:37
nagyvBetaCookies: just I don't remember the commandline package name10:37
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jack_aigh, kubuntu installed10:39
jack_but why cant i mount my other drives?10:39
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yahalomhow do I change the video driver that kubuntu uses, such as XV or X1110:40
yahalom?10:40
afm\colossusin what context?10:40
afm\colossusthat's no video driver, but a video output/overlay method10:40
afm\colossuswhat player are you using? mplayer?10:41
yahalomafm\colossus: my video doesn work, and I think its cos its not using - vo XV or X11 its using something else, I want all video to use xv10:41
yahalommplayer I sorted out10:41
yahalombut kaffeine10:41
yahalomvlc10:41
yahalomtotem10:41
yahalomnon work10:41
yahalomanymore10:41
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afm\colossuswtf? you installed a gazillion of players to watch videos?10:41
yahalomin mplayer I just chose XV and its fine now10:41
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yahalomafm\colossus: whatever came with ubuntu10:42
afm\colossusyeah, well10:42
afm\colossusget rid of the other players10:42
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yahalomexcept for vlc10:42
afm\colossusand get one that uses mplayer as its backend10:42
yahalomafm\colossus: man it worked till two days ago10:42
yahalomall of them10:42
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ebivenDoes anyone know if there is anyone keeping bleeding edge packages for (k)ubuntu?  Specifically I'm looking for a kpilot package no more than a week or two old.10:43
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wonderboyhi zll10:47
wonderboyhi all10:47
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livingdaylightUBUNTU ROCKS!10:50
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livingdaylightkubuntu is alright10:52
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Gh0st75evening, trying to find a nice newbie-friendly way to view flash and java in kubuntu. should i just flatten my 64 bit install and use 32 bit kubuntu on my 64bit amd?10:54
Samuli^How do you change the computer name eg. samuli@wanttochangethis:~10:54
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kaiIf want to add a class to my profile, where would I put the statement?10:55
kaidoes it have to be witin the if-statements or what?10:55
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jmsadminhi, anyone here?10:57
jmsadmin?10:58
wonderboyhi all10:58
jmsadminhi10:58
wonderboyi want a dc++ for kubuntu10:58
jmsadmincant help u there10:58
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wonderboyis somebody?10:59
wonderboywho can10:59
wonderboyplease10:59
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jmsadminim new to linux10:59
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jmsadmini dont know all the commands yet10:59
jmsadminor how to get things10:59
jmsadminso yeh, i cant help you11:00
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jmsadminasl ne1?11:01
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kaiwhats dc++11:05
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kaiIm so afraid of editing my .profile11:07
kaidamnit11:07
unix_infidel.profile?11:07
unix_infidelyou mean .bash_profile?11:07
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wonderboyis somebody who can tell me how i take an d how i install a dc++ for linux?11:09
maddog39a dc++ compiler?11:10
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Goofy_OS2hiho/211:10
wonderboyfor download11:10
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wonderboyi'm a beginer11:10
wonderboypls11:10
maddog39well i wouldnt know cuz ive never used D11:11
wonderboyis somebody here who know?11:11
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mahGute Nacht.11:13
sgorilla80hi11:13
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maddog39oh sweet german speakers11:14
maddog39i take german in school :)11:14
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mahOops, sorry. :)11:17
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dan14has anyone ever used kbootsplash or usplash??11:19
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root_I was on earlier, i f*ed up my profile, is there a way i can take out the statement i put in it?11:19
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eilkerthis command for ubuntu, "apt-get install libx11-6 libx11-dev libxtst6 xlibs-dev xinetd wget" those packages are same for kubuntu too ?11:22
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wonderboyI have a question11:24
wonderboyfor kubuntu I need codecs to see a movie?11:25
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wonderboyVideo and sound codecs?11:25
nagyvajjaj, I just wanted to upgrade to edgy, and while running apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal, I get the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35023/ how should I follow?11:25
nagyv!w32codecs11:26
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:26
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nagyv!w32codecs > wonderboy11:26
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borisyeltsinwhat is the best cd ripper?11:27
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TheGateKeepereilker, kubuntu is the same as ubuntu except that it uses KDE as the desktop instead of gnome11:28
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nagyvborisyeltsin: I don't know, but I am used to use KAudioCreator11:28
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eilkerTheGateKeeper:ty11:29
danny500does anyone know how to find the IP address a web site is coming from?11:29
TheGateKeepereilker, yw :-)11:30
root_can any one help? is it possiable to recover my profiile?11:30
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borisyeltsinnagyv: yah, that's too simple. I need to be able to change settings. I'm trying ripperx righ tnow.11:34
borisyeltsinnagyv: thanks though11:34
BetaCookiesWhat do I install for this: "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found."11:35
nagyvI tried to upgrade, but I get the following error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35025/ what should I do? is it a good idea to run apt-get -f install?11:35
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dan14does anyone know a good dock that works with beryl?11:36
fdovingBetaCookies: install the package 'libqt3-mt-dev'11:36
compilerwriterCan anyone help a newbie swap the control and caps lock keys on his keyboard.11:37
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BetaCookiesfdoving: lol is it bad that i already started compiling qt? lol11:37
compilerwriterI can fine reference to some code to use, but have no frigging clue where to put it.11:37
ghost07htllo11:37
ghost07can you guys give me the URL for pastebin?11:37
BetaCookiespastebin.com11:37
BetaCookieslol11:37
nagyv!pastebin11:37
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:37
ghost07thanks11:38
fdovingnagyv: try, you can also try to use aptitude.. 'aptitude install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal'11:38
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eilkeri have p4 2.4 but my kernel is 2.6.15-23-38611:39
nagyvfdoving: I just followed your(?) recommended process, the first problem was that my harddrive get full, then I run apt-get clean, then dpkg --configure -a, and now again the 'basic' install. should I run aptitude?11:39
eilkershouldnt it be 686 ??11:39
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dannyhello11:40
TheGateKeepereilker, you can install the 686 one but probable won't have much of an effect11:40
fdovingnagyv: then try 'apt-get -f install' as apt-get suggests, then start over with the apt-get commands.11:40
eilkerTheGateKeeper:so ? no problem ? right ?11:40
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compilerwriterCan anyone help me with key bindings.11:41
TheGateKeepereilker, no problem, I installed the one for my athlon, didn't notice any real difference11:41
nagyvcompilerwriter: what is your problem?11:41
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eilkerTheGateKeeper:ic,ty11:42
eilkerTheGateKeeper:installing vmware server here11:42
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fdovingnagyv: the problem is, that when apt-get figures out how to hande the dependencies,it downloads everything, and tries to install the packages in the correct order, for all the dependencies to resolv nicely. when you stop in the middle, and delete all the downloaded stuff, (apt-get clean), and starts again, something will go wrong. You will need to fix that with 'apt-get -f install'11:42
TheGateKeepereilker, (k)ubuntu compile everything for the 386, everything is also modular, which tends to make it a bit slow11:43
compilerwriternagyv I need to swap my control and Caps lock keys.  I don't quite understand what I need to do to get it done properly.11:43
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BetaCookiescompilerwriter: thats a good idea :P11:43
eilkerTheGateKeeper: is arclinux spesific for 686 ?11:43
nagyvfdoving: thx, I just wanted to ask for an explanation :)11:43
BetaCookieseilker: its 686, yeah11:43
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eilkerTheGateKeeper: they say that it has good performance11:43
TheGateKeepereilker, arch linux is11:44
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eilkerbetacookies: do u use it ?11:44
compilerwriterI know betacookies.11:44
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TheGateKeepereilker, it's fast but you have to build it from the base system11:44
nagyvfdoving: is it normal, that the last apt-get command does not responds? I mean, I clicked enter, and get a new line, but actually nothing happens11:44
dannybuntutest11:44
nagyvcompilerwriter: sorry, I can not help in that11:44
TheGateKeepereilker, kanotix may also be quicker11:44
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eilkerTheGateKeeper: now installing vmware, than i am gonna try other distro 's :)11:45
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BetaCookieseilker: I did, but I switched to kubuntu when I got this computer because at installation, I couldnt be arsed to do the stuff i would have to do :P11:45
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TheGateKeepereilker, cool :-)11:45
fdovingnagyv: step 6?11:45
nagyvfdoving: yes11:45
eilkerbetacookies: which distro is called hacker's linux ? was it arclinux ?11:45
TheGateKeepereilker, I run kubuntu & gentoo11:45
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compilerwriterI have found some reference to xmodkey, but what the hell is that and where in blazes does one put the modification.  I imagine it goes in some sort of rc file, but which one.11:46
BetaCookieseilker: hmm.. I'm not sure, sorry11:46
eilkerTheGateKeeper: i wanna try debian and redhat firstly11:46
fdovingnagyv: yes, you can try 'apt-get -u dist-upgrade' to see if any packages are held back. if there are none, it'll react that way.11:46
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nagyvfdoving: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35027/11:47
BetaCookiesWhat do I install for this: "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found." I installed libqt3-mt-dev, but it hasn't helped11:47
compilerwriterHaving the control key where it currently resides is really cramping my emacs usage.11:47
fdovingBetaCookies: use --prefix=/usr with ./configure11:48
BetaCookiesthe caps lock key is a fucking disaster -_-11:48
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compilerwriterIt truly is.11:48
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compilerwriterSo would someone please rescue a newbie and help him remap the two freakin keys.11:49
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fdovingnagyv: did you start from step 4. again, after you did the apt-get clean? or did you continue from where it failed?11:49
nagyvfdoving: so this is the problem :)11:49
dannybuntuhello world11:50
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danny500um, my desktop isn't loading up for my. What do I do?11:51
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LeeJunFandanny500: did it ever?11:52
danny500anybody?11:52
danny500no11:52
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dannybuntuhello world11:52
danny500I have Ubuntu and for some reason my desktop and icons and wallpaper isn't loading up11:52
compilerwriterhello dannybuntu11:52
dannybuntu:)11:52
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=== nagyv is going to reboot from Dapper2Edgy now, thanks to fdoving :)
LeeJunFandanny500: so this is a fresh install that's not working? does anything at all come up graphical or is it all just text on black background?11:53
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danny500no this isn't a fesh install, I have been using ubuntu for like half a year now11:54
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danny500the only thing that loads up is the application bar on the bottum of the screen11:54
fdovingnite.11:55
LeeJunFandanny500: and it's kubuntu? kde, not ubuntu w/ gnome?11:55
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dannybuntui love kubuntu!11:55
danny500I only have one computer and this is the one I'm talking about11:55
danny500no it's 100% Ubuntu11:55
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LeeJunFandanny500: if you aren't running kde with kubuntu then you want to be in #ubuntu - this is #kubuntu for kde users.11:56
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danny500whats the difference?11:56
dannybuntudanny500: the desktop environment11:56
LeeJunFandanny500: k==kde the better desktop, ubuntu comes with gnome - the other one :p11:56
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dannybuntulol11:56
dannybuntugnome=too brown11:57
LeeJunFanI'd help but I don't know crap about gnome. I gave up on it years ago.11:57
eilkervnware server how-to says that install these "libc6-dev-amd64 lib64gcc1" but i dont use amd, do i need to install these ?11:57
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LeeJunFaneilker: no11:57
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danny500ok thnx11:58
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nagyvfdoving: until now it seems flawless :)11:58
compilerwriterThe one thing I can do in gnome easily that I still have not figured out in kde is how to swap the damned caps lock key out.11:59
fdovingnagyv: great. i can sleep then, nite. :)11:59
borisyeltsinso the cd is ripping very slowly and dma is on.. any suggestions on how to fix?12:00
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compilerwriterDoes anyone know how to swap the caps lock key and the left control key?12:02
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fdovingcompilerwriter: system settings -> regional & language -> keyboard something -> xkb - take a look there..12:03
dannybuntuwhat is the best icon theme in kde look.org?12:03
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filthgrinderhmm12:04
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compilerwriterwill give that a shot fdoving12:04
filthgrinderI've got some weird problem with my Kubuntu Edgy12:04
filthgrinderWhen I try to install the NVIDIA glx-driver (both from apt and "manually"), everything appears to work out just fine12:05
filthgrinderbut when I run glxgears, I get "Segmentation fault"12:05
DekKeDhow do I make a script for batch download in wget? Links are sort of Link1, Link2, Link3... Link20, only numbers differ12:05
filthgrinderdoes anybody have a clue as to what the prob might be?12:05
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compilerwriterFDOVING YOU ARE A SAINT.  EMACS WILL FINALLY WORK PROPERLY.12:06
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compilerwriterbetacookies fdoving is right one must go into keyboard and then enable xkb options and then check the correct one.12:07
compilerwriterThank you fdoving.  Pint of Guiness Stout headed your way.12:07
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lupul!mp3 converter12:10
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mp3 converter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:10
eilkerwhere is /tmp ?? i cant find it via konqueror12:10
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Zaireanyone on here know of a good free 2 way e-mail server for ubuntu/kubuntu?12:10
nagyvhow can I allow connections from bluetooth? this is the error in the syslog http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35032/12:11
eilkerzaire: read server guide12:11
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Zairewow thats specific lol12:11
eilker!server12:11
ubotuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/12:11
lupulcan anyone please tell me an mp3 converter and something like where is it for edgy?12:11
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nagyvhow can I set get the menu for the system settings? under ubuntu I get rid of it, but here I can not switch to the advanced view12:11
nagyvlupul: lame12:12
lupuljust it? lame?12:12
nagyvlupul: or your problem is that you can not play mp3s?12:12
soulriderHawkwind: you here ?12:12
lupuli can play them. i have xine12:12
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nagyv!mp312:12
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:12
lupuli need a converter to mp3. to convert audio tracks for ex12:12
Zairek I have a server install of kubuntu right now but I need to know specifically about e-mail server packages12:13
nagyvlupul: lame is good12:13
lupulok thanks12:13
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BluesKajkaudiocreator12:13
lupuland something close to "where is it"?12:13
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nagyvlupul: in adept :)12:14
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