[12:16] <ubunt> mc__: I see and there is no way around. So by installing this package I could breake the system. To bad.
[12:17] <mc__> ubunt: no,not really the system
[12:17] <mc__> ubunt: ust the package could fail
[12:18] <ubunt> mc__: and this could be fixed by dpkg --purge I guess
[12:18] <mc__> ubunt: exactly
[12:18] <ubunt> mc__: did you ever test another Debian like system?
[12:19] <mc__> ubunt: of course,i used pure debian a long time
[12:19] <mc__> ubunt: and i still use debian stable as my server
[12:22] <MidMark> someone uses mysql graphical admin?
[12:22] <MidMark> it's totally buggy
[12:23] <mc__> MidMark: learn sql
[12:23] <mc__> MidMark: or try phpMyAdmin
[12:24] <mc__> MidMark: it's used to be quite stable
[12:24] <MidMark> downloading...
[12:24] <MidMark> thanx
[12:24] <MidMark> the mysqladmin crashed 5 times and freezed twice
[12:25] <MidMark> unusable
[12:25] <ubun> sorry I did something wrong. I was ubunt before
[12:27] <stani> join #ubuntu-motu
[12:27] <stani> join #motu-ubuntu
[12:27] <cloakable> Does anyone know how to enable zeroconf in the firewall?
[12:29] <nickv111> Grr. What is the module I need to load to recognize an ATI SB card?
[12:29] <nickv111> It's in my laptop
[12:29] <cloakable> !mdns
[12:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:29] <cloakable> !avahi
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avahi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <LjL> !fishing
[12:30] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[12:30] <LjL> !bot
[12:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:30] <cloakable> !LiL
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about LiL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <cloakable> !LjL
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about LjL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <LjL> cloakable, i'm not kidding - you're just not supposed to play around with the bots. if you're searching for a factoid, look at the usage info above, and use a private query with the bot
[12:32] <cloakable> LjL: Fair enough.
[12:33] <poningru> !kernel
[12:33] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:39] <animimotus> hi
[12:39] <remy> hi everyone
[12:39] <animimotus> I want make some caracter who are not on my keyboard, what's the name of the application I must have ?
[12:46] <humbolt> in software sources you can choose "proposed updates". what is that for? I know what security updates and backports are, but what is "proposed updates" meant for?
[12:46] <Malician> I just managed to get kubuntu installed, and it seems quite bare-bones - there're no icons on the desktop, links to hard drives or devices, etc
[12:47] <Malician> did I mess up somehow?
[12:48] <SUNGAM> Malician, do you have the taskbar and the menu?
[12:48] <Malician> yeah..
[12:48] <SUNGAM> think that's pretty much it :)
[12:48] <SUNGAM> open Konqueror to see your folders
[12:49] <Malician> ahhh, I see - you can get to that stuff off the menu
[12:49] <SUNGAM> Malician,  yup. Think you can drag and drop stuff onto the desktop if you want, too
[12:51] <Malician> huh, the dragging doesn't seem to be working
[12:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> Malician,
[12:52] <otaku-san> Does anyone know where konquerors style sheet is?  I'm trying to put a background I made on it....but it isn't working
[12:52] <afm\colossus> Malician: navigate to media:/ in konqueror
[12:52] <Telroth_Plushie|> do you have an icon on your taskbar that pops up "System menu" when you hover your cursor over it?
[12:52] <otaku-san> and I'm hoping that looking at konquerors style sheet may give me a clue
[12:53] <Malician> yeah, I get it - I can drag out of konqueror
[12:53] <Telroth_Plushie|> Malician,
[12:54] <Telroth_Plushie|> there's also a taskbar item that has a menu that has the equivilents of "my documents", "my computer", and "my network places" in it
[12:54] <Telroth_Plushie|> i use that because it uses up less space on my desktop
[12:54] <Telroth_Plushie|> but still provides quick access
[12:54] <Malician> i'm trying to figure how to drag it onto the desktop
[12:55] <SUNGAM> Telroth_Plushie|: thanks for the help last night, btw. Never figured out what was wrong, but once I'd created a new user I could log back in with the the original one :)
[12:55] <Malician> does kubuntu automatically recognize both processor cores?
[12:56] <wildchild> is there any utillity to show what proccesor I have, graphic card, mother board, like aida32 for windows
[12:56] <SUNGAM> Malician: are you on 6.10 or 6.06?
[12:56] <Malician> 6.190
[12:56] <Malician> *6.10
[12:56] <Telroth_Plushie|> Malician,
[12:56] <SUNGAM> Malician: then it should. At least it did for me (dual core intel)
[12:56] <Telroth_Plushie|> right click -> new -> link to url
[12:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> filename = "My Computer", url = "file:///media"
[12:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> click ok
[12:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> right click on the new icon on the desktop, select properties
[12:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> click on the icon in the upper left hand corner
[12:58] <Telroth_Plushie|> choose the icon you like
[12:58] <Malician> huh, that's funny - evidentally my hard drive isn't in the media folder
[12:58] <Telroth_Plushie|> you sure?
[12:58] <Telroth_Plushie|> what's in /media ?
[12:58] <Malician> cdrom0 and sata
[12:58] <Malician> which is another hard drive that i mounted
[12:58] <Malician> not the one i'm running on
[12:58] <Telroth_Plushie|> oh
[12:58] <Telroth_Plushie|> the harddrive you're running on is mounted at /
[12:58] <SUNGAM> Malician: the one you're running on is most likely root
[12:59] <SUNGAM> what he said :)
[12:59] <Telroth_Plushie|> what is the equivilent of the "C:\" drive is always located at /
[12:59] <Telroth_Plushie|> (with very, very rare exceptions)
[12:59] <Malician> I upgraded my motherboard
[12:59] <Malician> and it effectively killed both my win XP and my SuSE installations
[01:00] <Malician> and I figured that was a good time to move to ubuntu
[01:00] <SUNGAM> :)
[01:00] <Telroth_Plushie|> welcome to kubuntu then :P
[01:00] <Malician> i dunno much about ubuntu, but in my experience the big distros have the most developers, and if i ever want to do something all the guides are for ubuntu
[01:00] <Malician> xp
[01:00] <Telroth_Plushie|> yup
[01:01] <Telroth_Plushie|> they are also the only distro i've used so far that has java prepackaged
[01:01] <Malician> i dislike the lack of apt
[01:01] <Malician> at least, i can't find it
[01:01] <Telroth_Plushie|> ubuntu has apt
[01:01] <Telroth_Plushie|> i use it all the time
[01:01] <Malician> bash: apt: command not found
[01:01] <SUNGAM> Malician: ubuntuguide.org and ubuntuforums.org are invaluable :)
[01:01] <Telroth_Plushie|> "sudo apt-get install myWonderfulProgram"
[01:01] <Telroth_Plushie|> aptitude is also installed by default iirc
[01:01] <Malician> AHHHHHH
[01:01] <SUNGAM> or adept in KDE
[01:01] <Malician> you have to use apt-get
[01:02] <Telroth_Plushie|> ubuntu is based off of debian
[01:02] <Telroth_Plushie|> debian uses apt
[01:02] <Malician> yeah
[01:02] <Telroth_Plushie|> apt-get for packages
[01:02] <Telroth_Plushie|> apt-source for sources that get built
[01:02] <Malician> i ran a super suse distro that came with apt, 700 meg install cd
[01:02] <toc> hi
[01:02] <Telroth_Plushie|> apt-cache for browsing the package lists
[01:02] <toc> is kubuntu a live distro?
[01:02] <Malician> does debian use smart?
[01:02] <Telroth_Plushie|> yes.
[01:02] <Malician> and/or do you guys use that?
[01:02] <SUNGAM> toc: yes, it has a live CD
[01:02] <Telroth_Plushie|> Malician, never heard of that
[01:03] <LjL> !smartpm
[01:03] <toc> yes to me, Telroth_Plushie|?
[01:03] <ubotu> smartpm: An alternative package manager that works with dpkg/rpm. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.42-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 41 kB, installed size 328 kB
[01:03] <Telroth_Plushie|> toc, yes
[01:03] <Malician> i dislike smart because it's horrendously slow
[01:03] <toc> ok, ty
[01:03] <Telroth_Plushie|> the kubuntu install disk is a live cd
[01:03] <toc> see you all
[01:03] <toc> :)
[01:03] <Telroth_Plushie|> there's an icon on the desktop to install it
[01:03] <Malician> but it's kinda the only option because it doesn't have the dependency problems apt has
[01:03] <Telroth_Plushie|> just double click
[01:03] <toc> ty for helping
[01:03] <toc> ;)
[01:03] <Malician> smart will downgrade programs and such, which apt can't do
[01:03] <Telroth_Plushie|> Malician, i haven't encountered dependency problems
[01:03] <Malician> maybe debian's smoother then suse
[01:04] <Telroth_Plushie|> aptitude is supposedly better than apt-get at dependency
[01:04] <SUNGAM> supposedly Aptitude is very good with dependencies, if you ever experience any problems with apt-get
[01:04] <SUNGAM> bah... you'r etoo fast :)
[01:04] <SUNGAM> *you're
[01:04] <rag> please how to apt list translations?
[01:04] <Malician> mm.  *thinks* so I need.. to somehow find a way to fit 90 gigs of data on two 30 gig drives
[01:05] <Telroth_Plushie|> adept is a graphical frontend to apt-get or aptitude (not sure which), but it's horribly slow
[01:05] <Malician> at which point I can reinstall linux on the big drive, my data saved
[01:05] <Telroth_Plushie|> Malician, tar.gz?
[01:05] <Malician> and then installl windows on the two small drives
[01:05] <Telroth_Plushie|> .rar?
[01:05] <Telroth_Plushie|> bzip2 is probably the best compression
[01:05] <Malician> you can't compress compressed music / movies
[01:05] <Malician> xp
[01:05] <Telroth_Plushie|> Malician, try it, never know what bzip2 can do
[01:06] <Telroth_Plushie|> use ark
[01:06] <Telroth_Plushie|> and tell it to create a bzip2 archive
[01:06] <Malician> granted, some of it's stuff i ripped from my dvd collection - i can just rerip that
[01:06] <Malician> later
[01:10] <Malician> are there any major disadvantages / advantages between suse and kubuntu?
[01:10] <Malician> other then the ballooning ubuntu community being helpful?
[01:11] <afm\colossus> well, it's rpm vs. dpkg
[01:11] <afm\colossus> -> dpkg wins
[01:11] <afm\colossus> FATALITY!
[01:11] <Malician> *chuckles*
[01:11] <Malician> any reason?
[01:11] <afm\colossus> the various ubuntu flavours are really nicely crafted
[01:11] <afm\colossus> and not overloaded with software by default
[01:12] <afm\colossus> esp. not redundant applications
[01:12] <BluesKaj> And no Yast ! :)
[01:12] <Kr4t05> Malician: Ubuntu doesn't have a contract with Microsoft!
[01:12] <Kr4t05> Unlike Novell. >>
[01:12] <Malician> that falls under "ballooning ubuntu community" =p
[01:12] <SUNGAM> :)
[01:13] <cloakable> :)
[01:13] <Malician> novell is like a dog that chewed up your slippers
[01:13] <Malician> they still love you and they want you back
[01:13] <Malician> but they just dont get what they did wrong
[01:13] <Malician> and never really will
[01:13] <SUNGAM> hehe
[01:13] <BluesKaj> suse sucks ...I tried several distros ...never did feel the need to keep using a broken OS
[01:13] <Malician> the install disc i used came with apt, a fully functional desktop, along with mp3 and dvd support
[01:13] <Malician> which is why i liked it
[01:14] <Malician> but it's not being updated anymore =/
[01:14] <SUNGAM> I wish IBM would make a Debian/Ubuntu version of it's Thinkvantage tools. Then I wouldn't have to think about trying SuSe :)
[01:15] <afm\colossus> as long as there's ibm_acpi
[01:15] <afm\colossus> i could not care less about that "Access IBM/Lenovo"-bullshit
[01:15] <BluesKaj> gawd help you sungam, ...don't even think about it
[01:16] <Malician> HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
[01:16] <Malician> i just copied over my firefox and swiftfox folders
[01:16] <Malician> from the broken suse install
[01:16] <Malician> and they WROK
[01:16] <Malician> *work
[01:16] <sungam> afm\colossus: I want my Client Security hardware to work :)
[01:16] <Malician> installed firefox via apt
[01:16] <Malician> and it runs with all my old settings
[01:16] <Malician> that's awesome
[01:17] <afm\colossus> Malician: well, that's pretty much always the case with a GNU system
[01:17] <afm\colossus> or a UNIX
[01:17] <Malician> .. the adobe flash 9 plugin still works
[01:17] <afm\colossus> ~ rocks
[01:17] <Malician> since the plugin folder is under .mozilla
[01:17] <Malician> that simply rocks beyond belief
[01:17] <sorush20> ktorrent keeps crashing and freezing my computer. what can I do ?
[01:18] <afm\colossus> check your hardware, ktorrent runs perfectly fine on all my desktop machines
[01:18] <BluesKaj> use azureus , ktorrent is unstable in edgy
[01:18] <sungam> afm\colossus: Do you have a Thinkpad with HDAPS?
[01:18] <afm\colossus> http://www.wygodnezakupy.pl/images/Casio-WVA-430TDE-1A2VER.jpg - what do you think of that watch? neat or not?
[01:18] <afm\colossus> sungam: nope, a T40
[01:18] <afm\colossus> but i'm gonna get a X60s with a core 2 duo as soon as they're available
[01:18] <devinus> what's a good KDE Gnutella file-sharer that's not Java based? :-(
[01:18] <afm\colossus> (if ever ;))
[01:20] <sungam> afm\colossus: ah... can't get the queue freeze patches to work, unfortunately. So I can use the HDAPS as a smackpad, but no actualy harddrive protection :)
[01:20] <sungam> not to mention the theft-alarm... equally useful
[01:21] <devinus> anybody know of a p2p client that's for KDE?
[01:24] <Malician> yes
[01:24] <Malician> bittorrent
[01:24] <Malician> there's gotta be at least one kde bittorrent client
[01:25] <Malician> ktorrent, actually
[01:25] <devinus> oh i mean gnutella
[01:25] <devinus> like FrostWire
[01:25] <devinus> but...erm
[01:25] <devinus> not Java
[01:25] <devinus> QT based perhaps?
[01:28] <ubuntu_> hello
[01:29] <Admiral_Chicago> what sound driver should i use for flash sound to work?
[01:31] <sungam> Admiral_Chicago: in Firefox?
[01:31] <Admiral_Chicago> sungam: yes
[01:31] <sungam> Admiral_Chicago: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=303028
[01:31] <Admiral_Chicago> sungam: beta 9?
[01:32] <sungam> Admiral_Chicago:  worked for me.
[01:32] <Admiral_Chicago> okay i'll give it a shot
[01:32] <sungam> Admiral_Chicago:  although I couldn't find the /etc/firefox/firefoxrc file
[01:32] <mooreand13213> i need help installing the nvidia driver. i can go through the tutorial just fine, but i can't even boot into kubuntu at all. anyone patient enough to help a total newb?
[01:32] <sungam> Admiral_Chicago:  still worked, though :)
[01:38] <laalitha_> how do I add a open terminal to right click menu
[01:41] <Malician> got a problem
[01:41] <Admiral_Chicago> sungam: i don't think that worked
[01:41] <Malician> ubuntu
[01:41] <Malician> loses my network settings every time it reboots
[01:41] <Malician> or at least
[01:41] <Malician> it disables the interface
[01:41] <sungam> Admiral_Chicago: did you try running it 'aoss firefox'?
[01:41] <ubuntu_> hi all, Im trying out kubuntu, where do I get dvdcss package?
[01:41] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[01:41] <Admiral_Chicago> brb let me try it again
[01:42] <Admiral_Chicago> !restricted > ubuntu_
[01:42] <sungam> Admiral_Chicago: if that doesn't work, then I dont' know. it worked first time around for me.
[01:42] <sungam> mooreand13213: I'm sorry, I don't know. Never had any serious issues when installing the Nvidia beta drivers
[01:43] <sungam> mooreand13213: how far into the boot process do you get?
[01:44] <mooreand13213> i try to pick to boot into safe graphics mode, but i just get colored lines
[01:45] <sungam> mooreand13213: then I don't know. Thought it may be because of a misconfigured xorg.conf, but I've always been able to boot into safe-mode when it's been messed up
[01:45] <mooreand13213> its not even installed though, im just trying to boot the live cd
[01:46] <sungam> oh
[01:46] <Admiral_Chicago> ah Alsa can't find my card correctly
[01:46] <BluesKaj> and Can't install jack properly
[01:46] <sungam> Admiral_Chicago:  that would explain it I guess :)
[01:47] <Admiral_Chicago> OSS works fine as a sound engine :\
[01:47] <sungam> mooreand13213: hopefully someone more knowledgeable than me will come along :)
[01:47] <mooreand13213> its weird, cuz i had ubuntu on here before and i never had trouble booting ot safe graphics mode
[01:47] <Admiral_Chicago> crimsun: got time to help me with my Alsa?
[01:47] <mooreand13213> thanx for trying
[01:48] <BluesKaj> been trying off and on for 2 days to install Jackeq ...it won't go!
[01:48] <sungam> mooreand13213: if you think it's something that will go away once it's installed you could always try to install it from text mode on the alternative cd
[01:48] <Admiral_Chicago> BluesKaj: sudo apt-get install jackeq?
[01:48] <BluesKaj> no kidding
[01:49] <Admiral_Chicago> that doesn't work?
[01:49] <mooreand13213> i guess ill give it a shot
[01:50] <BluesKaj> nope Admiral_Chicago, ...it fails on launch ...it's a buggy version in the repos
[01:50] <sungam> Admiral_Chicago: out of curiosity. How do you see how alsa has detected your card correctly? from the listing in the 'alsamixer' gui?
[01:51] <jon_> is there a channel for audacity?
[01:51] <Admiral_Chicago> sungam: when i ran it as aossfirefox in terminal, alsa gave some output errors
[01:51] <Admiral_Chicago> #audacity
[01:51] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe
[01:52] <sungam> Admiral_Chicago: ah, ok :)
[01:52] <Admiral_Chicago> sungam: do you get any errors+
[01:52] <jon_> how do i get libmp3lame.so?
[01:53] <Admiral_Chicago> !lame
[01:53] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[01:53] <Admiral_Chicago> "sudo apt-get install lame" i think
[01:53] <sungam> sungam: npe
[01:53] <sungam> bah
[01:53] <sungam> *Admiral_Chicago: nope
[01:54] <Admiral_Chicago> okay, i'll fix it later
[01:54] <jon_> i already have lame installed
[01:54] <jon_> but im trying to save something in audacity as an mp3
[01:56] <Goofy_OS2> All, I new to Kubuntu/Linux. I've a Ati radeon X1300. My grahics are not accelarated, so have a lot of hicks... very frustating. How can i change this...
[01:57] <sorush20> ktorrent keeps crashing and freezing my computer. what can I do ?
[01:58] <Jucato> !ati | Goofy_OS2
[01:58] <ubotu> Goofy_OS2: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:58] <Goofy_OS2> Hmm forgot to mention i'm  on 64bits AMD
[01:59] <jdt> Hi all, has anyone experienced the problem when the adept package manager will launch once, and then if closed, cannot be launched again. It simply asks for a password - and then - nothing.
[02:00] <sungam> jdt: check if it's already running ( ps aux | grep adept_manager )
[02:01] <sungam> jdt: if it is, kill it and remove /var/lib/dpkg/lock (just the lock file)
[02:01] <sungam> jdt:  then run a 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[02:02] <jdt> sungam: thanks, yes, lots of processes. I am killing them off now and will do as advised - back shortly
[02:03] <sungam> jdt: happens to me so much I've written a script for cleaning up after adept :)
[02:03] <Goofy_OS2> ubotu: Thnx I reading and testing... How do I this: glxinfo |grep direct outputs direct rendering: No, or it outputs direct rendering: Yes, but performance in 3D applications such as games is unacceptable
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Thnx I reading and testing... How do I this: glxinfo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <sungam> Goofy_OS2: ubotu is a bot :)
[02:03] <Goofy_OS2> sungam: I saw it ;-(
[02:04] <Goofy_OS2> too late :-)
[02:04] <sungam> :p
[02:04] <jdt> sungam: thanks, yes, I just wasnt sure if I was getting carried away with adding extra repo's and had caused myself a problem
[02:05] <sungam> jdt: did it work?
[02:05] <Goofy_OS2> Jucato: Card is identified as Ati X1300. how can i do the test with glxinfo?
[02:05] <jdt> sungam: so, just delete the lock file yeah/
[02:05] <jdt> ?
[02:05] <Jucato> Goofy_OS2: sorry, I'm not familiar with ATI
[02:06] <sungam> jdt: yes, delete the lock file, then run 'dpkg --configure -a'
[02:06] <Goofy_OS2> Jucato: Okay thnx anyway
[02:06] <sungam> with a sudo if necessary :)
[02:06] <Goofy_OS2> sungam: You're familiar with an ATI?
[02:06] <Jucato> Hi Admiral_Chicago
[02:06] <sungam> Goofy_OS2: no, sorry
[02:06] <jdt> sungam: And it worked!
[02:06] <sungam> jdt: awesome :)
[02:06] <jdt> Thanks very much.
[02:07] <Goofy_OS2> sungam: Thnx...
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: btw, do you translate on Rosetta?
[02:07] <Jucato> nope
[02:07] <Admiral_Chicago> you should, you're in PH right?
[02:08] <Jucato> unfortunately, I'm not good in translations :)
[02:08] <jdt> sungam: Thats helped me heaps, thanks
[02:12] <sungam> jdt: there's a small script at http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/AVlVys23.html that automates the cleanup after an adept crash.
[02:13] <Malician> KDE system guard only has one CPU indicator
[02:13] <Malician> is there a way to get it to show different load indicators for each processor core?
[02:13] <Malician> or does that mean kubuntu is only using one processor core
[02:14] <sungam> Malician: Kpowersave shows it for me, at least hte running frequency
[02:14] <jdt> sungam: thanks I've created it local. cheers.
[02:15] <sungam> :)
[02:17] <EricJ2190> does anyone here know how to use iptables to forward all ports for an ip?
[02:17] <Malician> sungam, does it show load indicators?
[02:17] <Malician> ala, cpu core 1 is 25% busy, cpu 2 core is 30%
[02:18] <Malician> etc
[02:18] <sungam> oh, no. not load indicators
[02:19] <Admiral_Chicago> sungam: ah i get it now, my card wasn't working
[02:20] <Admiral_Chicago> err being detected by ALSA
[02:21] <sungam> Admiral_Chicago: is it working now?
[02:21] <Admiral_Chicago> working on it
[02:21] <sungam> :)
[02:27] <Admiral_Chicago> freddy@freddy-testing:~$ echo options snd-intel8x0 >> /etc/modprobe.d/snd-intel8x0
[02:27] <Admiral_Chicago> bash: /etc/modprobe.d/snd-intel8x0: Permission denied
[02:27] <Admiral_Chicago> does anyone understand why I am getting this?
[02:27] <Admiral_Chicago> working on getting my sound working
[02:28] <sungam> cause you need to sudo it?
[02:29] <Admiral_Chicago> sungam: nope
[02:29] <Admiral_Chicago> same error
[02:30] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: the snd-intel8x0 file is not owned by you. a simple sudo won't be enough because you are only sudoing the first part of the command
[02:30] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: i don't understand
[02:31] <sungam> Admiral_Chicago : to change my trackpoint sensitivity I hvae to 'echo -n 0 > sudo /sys/.../whateversettingIwanttoset'
[02:31] <sungam> Admiral_Chicago : *have to
[02:31] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[02:31] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: sudo would only affect the echo command (running echo as root). it doesn't give you permission to write to the file in /etc
[02:31] <sungam> Admiral_Chicago : not just 'sudo echo -n 0 > /sys/.../whatever setting'
[02:31] <Kr4t05> Does anyone happen to know why I can't load the nvidia kernel module?
[02:32] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on, let's speak english for a sec
[02:32] <Admiral_Chicago> i get that i can't write to /etc
[02:32] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: that's only afaik, btw
[02:32] <Admiral_Chicago> how could I change that
[02:33] <sungam> did you try running 'sudo echo option snd-intel8x0 >> /etc/modprobe.d/snd-intel8x0' or 'echo option snd-intel8x0 >> sudo /etc/modprobe.d/snd-intel8x0'?
[02:34] <sungam> notice the sudo is associated with the writing ot /etc/modprobe.d/snd-intel8x0 in the second statement. Not sure if it works with what you're oding, but it's what I had to do to configure my trackpoint (done through echoing)
[02:36] <Admiral_Chicago> umm, not sure what trackpointing is
[02:36] <sungam> trackpoint is a mouse/touchpad replacement :)
[02:37] <Admiral_Chicago> uhh
[02:37] <Admiral_Chicago> okay
[02:37] <sungam> Admiral_Chicago: or you can try doing 'sudo -s' before running your ocmmand, so you're stuck in root.
[02:38] <sungam> like Jucato said, you get the error because you run the echo as root, but not the writing command.
[02:38] <sungam> so you're reading the file with a sudo, but not the writing. Or something similar :)
[02:38] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: the only way I know of is to do the command as root with "sudo -i"
[02:39] <Admiral_Chicago> sec
[02:39] <Admiral_Chicago> it's working so far
[02:40] <jon_> everytime i hit my numberpad, my computer goes to sleep
[02:40] <jon_> doesnt matter what number i hit
[02:40] <Kr4t05> I'm on Edgy, and I'm trying to install the latest beta drivers from nVidia. However, I'm having trouble making them work,
[02:40] <Kr4t05> I get an error when I try to start X with the nvidia drivers.
[02:40] <Admiral_Chicago> dammit, this is being a beast
[02:44] <jerrold> im trying to install this plugin "3dworld"...i think i have to use svn to get it..but i dont have svn installed :)
[02:44] <jerrold> i did a apt-get install subversion...but im not sure if thats correct
[02:45] <Bulwinkle> Howdy all...  I just got kubuntu installed on my laptop (64bit) and I'm trying to get my broadcomm 34xx wireless working....
[02:45] <Bulwinkle> I've read a dozen different methods but what I understand is that the 64 bit driver will not work...  is this correct?
[02:46] <will> does kubuntu have a gkrellm monitor?
[02:48] <will> could somebody send me the link again about restricted formats?
[02:48] <Admiral_Chicago> !restricted
[02:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:48] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: if this works, i'm going to be pissed
[02:48] <alejandeus> dios santo!!! por fin he instalado el kubuntu
[02:49] <alejandeus> damn faulty hard drives
[02:50] <Kr4t05> I'm going to stab the man who wrote the installer for the nvidia beta drivers.
[02:50] <Kr4t05> Why couldn't they make a dash-compliant installer?
[02:50] <alejandeus> the installer is hell
[02:51] <alejandeus> the only way I found to install kubuntu was to install win98 and then overwrite it with kubuntu
[02:51] <Kr4t05> ...
[02:51] <alejandeus> this was hell
[02:51] <alejandeus> just wanted to say this
[02:52] <rOOb> 6346any idea why df says i have 0 room leaft on my partion but theres room on it..... here is the entry /dev/sda7             22708092  21554772         0
[02:53] <Bulwinkle> does anyone know where the bugzilla for kubuntu/ubuntu is?
[02:53] <jerrold> anyone familiar with svn?
[02:53] <rOOb> so threres 1,153,320 free on it...thats almost a gig
[02:53] <rOOb> or more then a gig
[02:53] <rOOb> if im not mistaken
[02:53] <Bulwinkle> r00b: that is a meg
[02:54] <Bulwinkle> oh.... nevermind
[02:54] <Bulwinkle> 1153320 x 1024
[02:54] <rOOb> 22708092 = my 21.66 gig partion
[02:55] <melecio_> how do i make Windows XP the default OS on GRUB?
[02:55] <rOOb> and well im dling a album...and it ran outta room......if i could only use part of that gig...which i dont see why theresa  whole gig i cant use
[02:55] <rOOb> i could understand settings away room...but a gig
[02:59] <alejandeus> hello.. one question here... kubuntu is a DEBIAN GNU(Linux nopes?
[02:59] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: i gave up
[02:59] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: the command didn't work?
[02:59] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: well I'll give it a shot tomrrow, i give up before i go nuts
[03:00] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: I know there's an easier way to use sudo for those complex commands, I just forgot
[03:00] <Admiral_Chicago> no that's not the problem the problem was the options
[03:01] <Jucato> ah
[03:01] <magnusda> melecio_ : make a backup of /boot/grub/menu.lst , then modify it so that the default= line points to the index of the windows boot option (0-indexed)
[03:01] <Permafr0st> by bye
[03:04] <BetaCookies> Hey
[03:04] <BetaCookies> I installed fglrx from the repos *and* compiled the kernel modules, so can anyone help me remove one of them? I don't know which to remove, but I don't know how to fix this, either.
[03:05] <dylan_> grr
[03:05] <dylan_> can anyone see what im typing?
[03:06] <magnusda> yes
[03:07] <will> once ive installed 6.06 can I upgrade to 6.10 via apt?
[03:07] <Jucato> yes, but with a little effort. it might be better to install 6.10 directly if you have the installer
[03:08] <davey486> can someone help me setup a wifi card/
[03:09] <davey486> I have itinstalled i just need a little help
[03:10] <will> what program do you guys use to access your ipod?
[03:10] <will> i dont see gtkpod anywhere
[03:11] <Jucato> I think Amarok has support for iPod
[03:11] <will> yeah but I mean like for writing to it etc
[03:12] <melecio_> magnusda: hmm sorry my "noobiness" but don't know how to "modify it so that the default= line points to the index of the windows boot option (0-indexed)"
[03:13] <Jucato> will: afaik, it does that already
[03:15] <will> I dont believe amarok will do that
[03:15] <Malician> heya
[03:15] <Malician> i just installed the nvidia driver on Edgy Eft
[03:15] <Malician> and things are much faster then before
[03:15] <Malician> but dragging windows around / etc is still slow
[03:16] <magnusda> melecio_ : open the menu.lst in a text editor with sudo (after you take the backup :) ) and change the line that reads 'default=0' to default=WhateverNumberYourWindowsBootOptionInGrubIs'
[03:16] <Malician> which it was not in my previous linux distro
[03:16] <Malician> and i'm wondering if I messed up somewhere or didn't enable something
[03:16] <magnusda> melecio_ : you have to count which number your windows option is (it's listed a bit further down)
[03:16] <rhodri> hi, i'm having a problem in edgy (i had it in dapper to) where ping never works (unless i ping myself), i fully except this could be my setup, but has anyone else had this problem?  any tips for how i could go about debugging it?  thanks
[03:16] <magnusda> melecio_ : further down in the text file that is :)
[03:17] <will> whats the name of the p2p client for kubuntu?
[03:18] <will> frostwire? gnutella?
[03:18] <melecio_> magnusda: ok thanks... i'll give it a try
[03:19] <magnusda> melecio_ : no problem, just make sure you take a backup :)
[03:19] <rhodri> will: frostwire is a gnutella client, same as limewire, u can run either on kubuntu.
[03:19] <magnusda> rhodri : sound slike someone's blocking a port somewhere
[03:19] <magnusda> rhodri : either on your system or somewhere in the network
[03:20] <rhodri> magnusda: so it's nothing to do with kubuntu?  that's what i wanted to check, i assume it's my router, but it's crap and all in korean so i don't have many options to fiddle with it!  heh.  cheers
[03:20] <will> does kubuntu have gkrellm
[03:21] <rhodri> will: i don't know, check adept, or google.
[03:22] <rhodri> will: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gkrellm&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all
[03:22] <Malician> does anybody know how I can check whether i'm using the 3d drivers?
[03:22] <rhodri> Malician: which drivers?
[03:22] <Malician> nvidia
[03:22] <Malician> when i installed them and rebooted windows seemed to move around much faster
[03:22] <Malician> but it's still horrendously slow
[03:22] <magnusda> rhodri : if you can ping yourself then I'd guess it would be your router (or if you're on a larger network it may be somewhere there)
[03:22] <Malician> as if i was using software rendering
[03:22] <Malician> nevertheless, nvidia is listed as teh driver in xorg
[03:23] <Malician> for some reason glxgears isn't giving me a FPS output when i run it
[03:23] <Malician> it just runs continually without saying anything
[03:23] <rhodri> malician: run glxinfo, see what that says
[03:23] <Malician> direct rendering: Yes
[03:23] <BetaCookies> I installed fglrx from the repos *and* compiled the kernel modules, so can anyone help me remove one of them? I don't know which to remove, but I don't know how to fix this, either.
[03:24] <rhodri> magnusda: must be the crappy router, it's given me so many headaches, i hate it.  thanks for the help!
[03:24] <magnusda> rhodri : no problem :) You might be able to test it if you have more than one setup behind the router
[03:24] <rhodri> Malician: does it say nvidia in there?  or mesa.org?
[03:24] <Malician> hrm, figured out how to get glxgears working and it's giving me 7000 fps
[03:24] <Malician> nvidia
[03:25] <Malician> i wonder why everything is so horribly slow
[03:25] <rhodri> Malician: sounds fine with everything i know then, you'll hafta find someone who knows more sorry.  actually...
[03:26] <rhodri> Malician: don't know if it's any help, but when use xgl, and the kwin window manager it gets pretty slow, are u running an xgl xserver?
[03:26] <Malician> i'm not using xgl
[03:27] <rhodri> i don't know what it could be then sorry. :-/
[03:32] <will> would you guys recommend the upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10? is it worth the trouble?
[03:33] <magnusda> will : not if everything you need is on 6.06 :)
[03:33] <Jucato> only if you absolutely need somethings that are on 6.10 only
[03:33] <robotgeek> will: i dont think so. there is not much difference, if you ask me :)
[03:34] <will> doesnt 6.10 come with firefox 2.0?
[03:34] <Jucato> yep
[03:34] <will> because firefox 1.57 is the onyl available for 6.06
[03:34] <dylan_> i think the package manager in ubuntu is less confusing than the one in kubuntu
[03:35] <Jucato> dylan_: you can always install Synaptic on Kubuntu
[03:35] <dylan_> isn't it for gnome though?
[03:36] <Jucato> it can run on KDE too
[03:38] <magnusda> will : you can download firefox 2.0 for 6.06 as well, but it may not be in the repositories.
[03:38] <will> i hate running it that way, all the plugins get unlinked and hairy
[03:40] <litropy> quick question: kernel 2.6.19 stable is out. Any way I can just install the patch and keep my current configs?
[03:41] <Jucato> !kernel
[03:41] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:41] <jeisma> i get this message when i open adept
[03:41] <jeisma> "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one."
[03:41] <jeisma> how do i fix this?
[03:42] <jeisma> anybody know?
[03:43] <ariel> jeisma: in console "ps aux | grep adept"
[03:43] <ariel> "ps aux | grep apt-get"
[03:43] <jeisma> now what?
[03:43] <ariel> see if there are running processes
[03:43] <ariel> of adept or apt-get
[03:43] <ariel> then kill them
[03:43] <Jucato> !adept crash fix | jeisma
[03:43] <ubotu> jeisma: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[03:45] <litropy> thanks for that, Jucato.
[03:45] <Jucato> np :)
[03:45] <jeisma> thanks jucato
[03:46] <jeisma> when i download programs off the internet, how do i use them?
[03:46] <Erich-K> Hello, I have a Hp vs17e LCD monitor and there are no drivers for it. Where can I get some?
[03:47] <jeisma> i just downloaded rambooster20.exe
[03:47] <jeisma> what do i open it with? it's asking
[03:48] <Erich-K> wine
[03:48] <jeisma> wine?
[03:48] <Jucato> !wine | jeisma
[03:48] <ubotu> jeisma: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:48] <Jucato> jeisma: basically you can't just run Windows programs on Linux
[03:50] <scooter> hi
[03:52] <yamal> Erich-K: standard lcd monitors don't need any special drivers
[03:52] <Erich-K> Ah
[03:52] <Erich-K> So just select plug and play?
[03:52] <yamal> only exception being those that dont have buttons for the osd functions
[03:53] <jeisma> Jucato: but with wine i can?
[03:54] <Jucato> jeisma: depends. not all Windows programs will run
[03:54] <roxy> hi
[03:55] <Malician> .. my desktop is actually faster with the nv driver then with nvidia
[03:55] <Malician> with the nv driver, i still get visual tearing when i drag around windows, but it's not slowed
[03:55] <Malician> with the nvidia driver moving around windows is slow
[03:55] <Malician> there's something highly wrong and I don't know what x_X
[03:57] <BetaCookies> [all-chans]  I will be right back, I am going to restart X
[03:59] <bryan_> has anyone installed kubuntu on 64-bit hardware? does it work just as well as the 32-bit version?
[04:00] <bryan_> what's a good kde program to read .ps files?
[04:01] <Jucato> Postscript? KGhostView
[04:03] <bryan_> thanks, i was reading the ubuntu unleashed book and they mentioned gv for gnome, but i wasn't sure what the kde equivalent was.
[04:03] <jeisma> what's the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[04:03] <jeisma> ubuntu easier to use?
[04:03] <Jucato> GNOME and KDE
[04:03] <jeisma> for a newb?
[04:03] <Jucato> both are easy to use. you just need to get used to new ways of doing things
[04:03] <scooter> how do i enable voice on konversation
[04:03] <jeisma> well what's the difference?
[04:03] <campbch> hummm?
[04:04] <bryan_> i'm a newb and kde is WAY easier for me
[04:04] <jeisma> i'm still trying to figure things out
[04:04] <Jucato> Ubuntu uses the GNOME desktop, Kubuntu uses KDE
[04:04] <Jucato> nvm, gone :P
[04:04] <campbch> i started with kde and got attached. now i just use it.
[04:04] <Jucato> ditto
[04:05] <ichthyoboy> same here..
[04:05] <bryan_> with kde everything just feels right and i don't struggle to figure out how to do things
[04:05] <BetaCookies> [all]  Be right back again
[04:05] <bryan_> plus things like the system settings looks and feels just like a mac :)
[04:06] <bryan_> sorry, i have to ask this again...has anyone installed kubuntu on 64-bit hardware? does it work just as well as the 32-bit version?
[04:06] <TehKewl1> I can't figure out how to start the JACK server and I wouldn't know where to begin
[04:07] <TehKewl1> (I installed it of course)
[04:08] <j_> is there anything like google desktop search for kubuntu?
[04:08] <magnusda> bryan_ : I've installed it on an AMD64, and it installed just fine. I'm not sure if it runs as smoothly as it does on my Thinkpad, but that might just as well be because the desktop has a rather odd compilation of hardware, where as it runs flawless on my laptop
[04:09] <bryan_> magnusda: i plan on buying a new cheap computer to run kubuntu and i just don't know if i should go AMD64 or just plain 32-bit
[04:10] <magnusda> bryan_ : ah. If you haven't bought it yet, browse a bit on ubuntuforums and such and see if you can find any reviews :)
[04:11] <TehKewl1> so can someone help me get the jack server running?
[04:11] <bryan_> magnuda: good advise.  i don't want to spend US$500+ and find out i can't run half the packages
[04:12] <magnusda> bryan_ : almost all packages will run, at least the ones I tried to install. Just some of them will run as 32-bit applications
[04:12] <jerrold> if i want to use svn to install applications..do i use apt-get install subversion?
[04:12] <scooter> how do i enable voice in konversation
[04:12] <bryan_> magnusda: is it true that 100% of all 32-bit apps run no 64-bit hardware?
[04:13] <bryan_> magnusda: is it true that 100% of all 32-bit apps run ON 64-bit hardware?
[04:13] <TehKewl1> err... what do you mean by voice?
[04:13] <basstich> Hello - I wonder if someone could help me find the bottom taskbar on kubuntu... my wife graciously lost it for me!
[04:13] <TehKewl1> like, text to speech or.... +v voice
[04:14] <TehKewl1> is there a little arrow on the right hand side basstich?
[04:14] <scorp007> hi, is it possible to use the package manager to get an older version of a package? I need to downgrade
[04:14] <basstich> TehKewl1 - nothing is on the bottom now!
[04:14] <basstich> blank... nada
[04:14] <scooter> text to speech
[04:14] <Jucato> !kttsd
[04:14] <ubotu> kttsd: a Text-to-Speech system for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1925 kB, installed size 3940 kB
[04:15] <scooter> i cant install edgy on my system it wont let me do it
[04:15] <basstich> Any ideas, TehKewl1?
[04:15] <TehKewl1> try the desktop (right click)
[04:15] <basstich> ok...
[04:16] <TehKewl1> and then go configure desktop
[04:16] <basstich> ok
[04:16] <scorp007> any ideas?
[04:16] <campbch> is there a quick way to check sound? if it's not working and the volume's up and mute's off, how do you do a quick software reset to make sure nothing's hanging?
[04:16] <basstich> pm, TehKewl1?
[04:16] <TehKewl1> nah it's not there
[04:16] <TehKewl1> ok
[04:17] <Erich-K> Is there a way to have the cleartype effect (I guess it's just AA) for fonts in linux?
[04:19] <j_> aren't the fonts smoothed already?
[04:19] <Shaezsche> i just installed on reiserFS, was that a bad idea??
[04:20] <crimsun> Erich-K: it's enabled by default
[04:20] <magnusda> bryan_ : I don't know about all, but I don't see why they would not, unless they're writing straight to registery or something. Most of the time you just won't get any benefit of having a 64-bit cpu
[04:20] <Erich-K> They look a little umm
[04:20] <Erich-K> rough?
[04:21] <BluesKaj> I have one and I installed x86 edgy on it
[04:22] <j_> Erich-K, System settings -> Appearance -> Fonts
[04:22] <j_> the Anti-aliasing for fonts bit
[04:22] <j_> theres a configure button
[04:23] <jerrold> anyone familiar with svn?? i dont have it installed..but id really like to figure out how...cant find anything on google i can use..
[04:23] <j_> you should be able to tune it to your satisfaction
[04:23] <Cuddles_Laptop> evening all. anyone good with wireless networking around?
[04:24] <Cuddles_Laptop> running edgy on a dell latitude, wlan0 won't connect automatically on boot [wlan0 is a pcmcia card using the r818x driver] . i have to run the kwireless assistant, and then ''sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'' to get it to work. any suggestions on getting this to work on boot, like it should?
[04:25] <basstich> TehKewl1 is looking - but can anyone tell me if they have lost the menubar on the bottom?
[04:25] <TehKewl1> type Alt+F4 and then type kicker
[04:25] <TehKewl1> and then press enter
[04:25] <Jucato> Alt+F2
[04:25] <Erich-K> j_: Thanks for the help
[04:26] <Jucato> Alt+F4 = close
[04:26] <j_> np
[04:26] <TehKewl1> yeah that one
[04:26] <TehKewl1> I've never been good with numbers
[04:26] <Jucato> :)
[04:26] <Cuddles_Laptop> anyone?
[04:26] <basstich> TehKewl1 - alt+F4 does nothing
[04:27] <TehKewl1> it's ALT+F2
[04:27] <TehKewl1> my bad
[04:27] <TehKewl1> :/
[04:27] <basstich> ALT+F2 does nothing, too
[04:27] <TehKewl1> :S
[04:27] <Cuddles_Laptop> basstich, try right clicking your desktop, see if you get anything
[04:28] <basstich> I can do that, Cuddles
[04:28] <Cuddles_Laptop> basstich, choose configure desktop
[04:28] <Cuddles_Laptop> check your settings for the taskbar.
[04:28] <basstich> ok, cuddles... hope this works...
[04:29] <basstich> where is that??
[04:29] <Cuddles_Laptop> should be towards the bottom of the right-click menu
[04:29] <Cuddles_Laptop> configure desktop
[04:30] <basstich> I see no taskbar selection - only background/behaviour/Mult. Desktops/Screen saver
[04:30] <basstich> I'm in Configure Kdesktop
[04:31] <Cuddles_Laptop> does this problem survive a reboot bastich?
[04:31] <basstich> yep... I wish it didn't - do you think adding a new user might do it?
[04:31] <Cuddles_Laptop> you could try
[04:31] <basstich> how do you add a user... he asks stupidly
[04:32] <Cuddles_Laptop> hrm... can't get to a konsole, can you...
[04:32] <jerrold> apt-get install svn-buildpackage if i want to install stuff using svn? :P
[04:32] <basstich> I can- what is that CTRl - something or other?
[04:32] <Cuddles_Laptop> ctrl-alt-f1, log in at the prompt, and type adduser <username>
[04:32] <basstich> brb
[04:33] <Cuddles_Laptop> oops, sudo adduser
[04:33] <basstich> how do I get to be root??!
[04:33] <basstich> Cuddles - I used madwifi - did it all for me
[04:34] <basstich> got root
[04:34] <Cuddles_Laptop> tried tha basstich. still no joy.
[04:34] <basstich> how do I make the user admin priv?
[04:35] <Cuddles_Laptop> that i have no idea.
[04:36] <LeeJunFan> !wireless | Cuddles_Laptop
[04:36] <ubotu> Cuddles_Laptop: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:37] <Cuddles_Laptop> been there leejunfan.
[04:37] <Cuddles_Laptop> did that, the forums, google, etc.
[04:37] <LeeJunFan> Cuddles_Laptop: what wireless chipset do you have?
[04:38] <basstich> Nope - didn't do it Cuddles - can anyone else suggest how to get the taskbar back?? I'm really screwed - I have a lot of stuff on this
[04:38] <Cuddles_Laptop> leejunfan, rtl8180
[04:38] <basstich> does anyone know how to configure the taskbar?
[04:39] <Cuddles_Laptop> sorry basstich. the only other thing i can think of would be to reinstall kde
[04:39] <BluesKaj> system settings , basstich,
[04:40] <basstich> go on, BluesKaj - Alt+F2 - systemsettings... where??
[04:40] <LeeJunFan> basstich: alt+f2 kicker
[04:40] <BetaCookies> How do I fix this error:  Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:40] <BluesKaj> SORRY basstich, thought you were in desktop
[04:40] <basstich> LeeJunFan - that does nothing
[04:41] <basstich> I am in desktop
[04:41] <LeeJunFan> on the livecd?
[04:41] <basstich> no
[04:41] <basstich> should I be there?
[04:41] <LeeJunFan> basstich: you are in KDE?
[04:41] <basstich> yes... KDE
[04:42] <fyrmedic> How do I create new users and groups in console?
[04:42] <Zoohouse> Hello everyone
[04:42] <LeeJunFan> basstich: when you hit alt+f2 did it bring up the request to run a command?
[04:42] <basstich> yes Lee
[04:42] <Zoohouse> How can I see my defult spellchecker?
[04:42] <LeeJunFan> fyrmedic: man useradd
[04:42] <fyrmedic> LeejunFan, thanks
[04:43] <LeeJunFan> Zoohouse: it depends on the application, some use ispell some use aspell some either/both.
[04:43] <LeeJunFan> basstich: and you have no taskbar at all?
[04:43] <basstich> LeeJunFan - Alt+F2 brings up a window
[04:43] <benjaminkip> where can i get more interesting soft please???
[04:43] <basstich> no taskbar at all
[04:43] <basstich> nadda
[04:43] <LeeJunFan> !adept | benjaminkip
[04:43] <ubotu> benjaminkip: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:44] <LeeJunFan> !repos | benjaminkip
[04:44] <ubotu> benjaminkip: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:44] <Zoohouse> LeeJunFan: I ask because it because spell check in kopete isn't working...
[04:44] <BetaCookies> [all-msg]  Restarting X server...
[04:44] <LeeJunFan> basstich: what if you open a konsole with alt+f2, and try running kicker from there, might give something useful.
[04:45] <Cuddles_Laptop> all i need is the wireless to automatically request an ip address via dhcp on boot, but it fails every time.
[04:45] <basstich> when I enter kicker - nothing happens
[04:45] <basstich> it clears the screen...
[04:45] <magnusda> basstich : or try running kicker from a console to see if you get any error messages. From a console within KDE I mean
[04:45] <BluesKaj> nodding off.. sacktime here ..nite all
[04:46] <LeeJunFan> basstich: otherwise rm -f ~/.kde/share/apps/kicker && rm -f ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc && kicker
[04:46] <basstich> ctrl+alt+F1 - then sudo kicker?
[04:46] <LeeJunFan> basstich: no, don't sudo kde apps.
[04:46] <LeeJunFan> !kdesu
[04:46] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[04:47] <basstich> jsut enter kicker??
[04:47] <basstich> kicker: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kicker.so:undefined symbo:dleButton
[04:48] <basstich> That's what I get... :(
[04:48] <LeeJunFan> basstich: did you recently do upgrades to KDE?
[04:48] <basstich> no
[04:49] <basstich> My wife uses this on her laptop - read email - then pressed ctrl and another button - she can't remember what
[04:49] <basstich> now the taskbar is gone!
[04:49] <basstich> should I reboot in safe mode, and re-install kde??
[04:50] <basstich> LeeJunFan??
[04:50] <Cuddles_Laptop> it's worth a shot basstich.
[04:50] <LeeJunFan> basstich: you might try creating a new user, logging in as that user, and see if the taskbar works there. IF so then it's just something for that one user. Although I'd have to say it doesn't look like the case - it's worth a try.
[04:50] <basstich> did that... and no
[04:50] <basstich> apt-get install kde??
[04:50] <LeeJunFan> basstich: sudo apt-get install -f
[04:51] <LeeJunFan> might fix any possible broken deps.
[04:51] <basstich> nope
[04:51] <basstich> that didn't do it
[04:51] <LeeJunFan> It sounds like it's got a library mismatch, like either kicker was updated and the library wasn't, or the library was and kicker wasn't.
[04:51] <LeeJunFan> basstich: just a sec.
[04:51] <basstich> k
[04:52] <basstich> it's autoremoving a lot of stuff!
[04:52] <LeeJunFan> basstich: the install -f is?
[04:52] <basstich> yes!
[04:53] <basstich> how can I re-install KDE?
[04:53] <basstich> it gives me an error with kicker
[04:53] <LeeJunFan> basstich: wait for it to finish, then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:53] <basstich> symbol lookup error - ok
[04:54] <basstich> says it's done...
[04:54] <basstich> rebooting now...
[04:54] <LeeJunFan> Cuddles_Laptop: I went looking for info on your wifi, sry. I've not worked with that chipset and it doesn't look too promising. Can you sudo modprobe rtl8180_24x
[04:55] <Cuddles_Laptop> leejunfan, instead of the r818x driver?
[04:55] <basstich> still no taskbar
[04:56] <LeeJunFan> basstich: and you did the sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[04:56] <basstich> how can I get adept to run without KDE start ] \
[04:56] <basstich> yes, Leejun I did
[04:56] <LeeJunFan> basstich: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall kicker
[04:57] <gmitchel> please help, i rebooted my computer... changed nothing and now my desktop won't fit entirely on the screen... i have to move the mouse to see other parts of the screen
[04:57] <Cuddles_Laptop> leejunfan, no such driver
[04:57] <basstich> what is kicker, anyway?
[04:57] <LeeJunFan> basstich: that's the taskbar
[04:57] <basstich> ahhhhhh
[04:57] <basstich> doing something...
[04:58] <LeeJunFan> gmitchel: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[04:58] <basstich> got it!!!!!!!!!
[04:58] <basstich> YAHOO!!
[04:58] <basstich> it's there... it's there!!!!
[04:58] <basstich> yay, even!
[04:58] <LeeJunFan> :)
[04:59] <basstich> man, you are good!
[04:59] <basstich> Thank you very much!!!!!!!!
[04:59] <Cuddles_Laptop> leejunfan, after doing the little dance with kwireless and resetting networking, the wireless works flawlessly. it's just this nonsense at startup.
[05:00] <LeeJunFan> Cuddles_Laptop: okay, so the driver itself works. What happens at startup?
[05:00] <magnusda> never underestimate a little dancing to get hardware to work :)
[05:01] <LeeJunFan> A little dancing and some animal sacrifice.
[05:01] <Cuddles_Laptop> leejunfan, nothing at all. driver is loaded, but dhcp client can't get an ip. i have to run kwireless assistant just to get it to try accessing the wireless hub.
[05:01] <basstich> Cuddles -
[05:02] <basstich> www.seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/MadWifi
[05:02] <LeeJunFan> Cuddles_Laptop: chances are settings in /etc/network/interfaces are either wrong or missing for wireless.
[05:02] <Cuddles_Laptop> and then i have to do /etc/init.d/networking restart to get an ip
[05:02] <Cuddles_Laptop> basstich, tried that, no joy.
[05:02] <LeeJunFan> madwifi only supports atheros chipsets, his is realtek
[05:02] <basstich> yes... that's right
[05:03] <LeeJunFan> Cuddles_Laptop: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file and gimme the link
[05:04] <magnusda> has anyone tried rebuilding the kernel with the HDAPS_PROTECT patch?
[05:04] <basstich> Cuddles - this I know from my myth tv install.. hold on.. I wrote it down
[05:04] <LeeJunFan> not me, magnusda what's that do?
[05:04] <faucon> hi, i have kubuntu 6.01 drapper, and i wanna know if i can upgrade to 6.10 without downloading the hole CD/DVD   i mean, just by changing url into apt-get .. is it possible
[05:04] <LeeJunFan> !upgrade | faucon
[05:04] <ubotu> faucon: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:05] <Cuddles_Laptop> leejunfan, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34905/
[05:05] <magnusda> LeeJunFan : it activates queue-freeze in the kernel, which allows the HDAPS (hard drive active protection system, or something similar) in some Thinkpads to work in linux :)
[05:05] <jerrold> i need help installing this beryl plugin "3d world"  i found the svn repository..but apparently its available as a normal plugin..anyone have the time to point me in the right direction please?
[05:05] <basstich> type / etc/init.d network stop
[05:05] <LeeJunFan> magnusda: ah okay.
[05:05] <faucon> thanks leejunfan
[05:05] <magnusda> jerrold : out of curiosity. What does the plugin do?
[05:05] <Cuddles_Laptop> basstich, if i do that, i go offline.
[05:06] <LeeJunFan> makes your windows stand off when you zoom the cube out.
[05:06] <basstich> then (when you are offline)
[05:06] <magnusda> LeeJunFan : I managed to compile it last night (although wrecking my setup for a while), but the kernel ran fine. Only problem was there was no active protection system even with the patch applied :)
[05:06] <basstich> etc/update-rc.d network defaults
[05:06] <LeeJunFan> Cuddles_Laptop: I see your essid is ANY, is there any chance it could be connecting to someone elses network in your local vicinity?
[05:06] <basstich> or sudo update-rc.d network defaults
[05:07] <jerrold> magnusa: its for that 3d desktop..i beleve you can have a transparent cube..and any selected windows will "pop" out when you rotate it..really cool eye candy
[05:07] <basstich> That's what I did to get it to work
[05:07] <basstich> did you get that - sorry Leejunfan.
[05:07] <Cuddles_Laptop> leejunfan, i live on a far in the middle of bfe. only wireles sconnection for 10 plus miles is mine.
[05:07] <gmitchel> I pasted my xorg.conf but i don't think anything has changed since i started having this problem with the desktop going off the screen
[05:07] <magnusda> jerrold : fancy... have Beryl, but no 3Dworld plugin... will have to look at it :)
[05:07] <jerrold> magnusda: http://linux.wordpress.com/2006/11/23/video-beryl-3d-window-layer-plugin/
[05:07] <LeeJunFan> Cuddles_Laptop: and you use no WEP?
[05:07] <Cuddles_Laptop> nope.
[05:07] <magnusda> jerrold : thanks :)
[05:07] <Cuddles_Laptop> no wpa either.
[05:08] <jerrold> im pretty new to linux/beryle/kubuntu..but i really wanna get this plugin working :P
[05:08] <basstich> etc/init.d/network stop .......... then ...... etc/init.d/network restart .........then.......... etc/update-rc.d network defaults
[05:08] <LeeJunFan> jerrold: I compiled my own beryl from svn, so I don't know about the repos.
[05:08] <basstich> you do all this after you have your wireless up and running, cuddles...
[05:08] <jerrold> leejun: i think i have an svn repo for it..i just have no idea how to use it
[05:08] <LeeJunFan> jerrold: perhaps someone in #beryl would have the answer?
[05:08] <basstich> This I know - I had a pain with my rtl adapter, too
[05:08] <Cuddles_Laptop> basstich, i've done that a few dozen times. it doesn't work
[05:08] <basstich> really?
[05:08] <Cuddles_Laptop> really.
[05:08] <LeeJunFan> jerrold: you have to add that repository to /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:08] <jerrold> i apt-get installed svn-buildpackage..i dont know where to go from here
[05:08] <basstich> that sucks
[05:09] <basstich> it worked for me :(
[05:09] <jerrold> leejunfan..really? and just do a normal apt-get?
[05:09] <magnusda> Cuddles_Laptop : not saying it's your solutoin. But my wlan setup is only reliable if I use Knetworkmanager
[05:09] <Cuddles_Laptop> i just waqnt it to connect on bootup.
[05:09] <LeeJunFan> jerrold: yeah, once you add that, then apt-get update, then apt-get install xgl beryl emerald, I think. If you need xgl that is, if you use aiglx then no xgl.
[05:10] <Cuddles_Laptop> tried thattoo magnusda. still have to reset it when i log in.
[05:10] <LeeJunFan> Cuddles_Laptop: not sure why, I know my madwif doesn't join my network on first try for some reason either.
[05:10] <magnusda> Cuddles_Laptop : what about hacking it into a startup script? Not a solution, but a nice workaround
[05:10] <jerrold> leejunfan: the svn repo is svn://svn.beryl-project.org/beryl/branches/beryl-3d-plugin ...apt-get will work w/ that?
[05:10] <LeeJunFan> Cuddles_Laptop: I have to issue an iwconfig ath1 essid [essid]  again.
[05:11] <Cuddles_Laptop> leejunfan, it always takes at least one retry, sometimes up to 4.
[05:11] <magnusda> Cuddles_Laptop : I mean creating a .sh that will do your commands automatically at bootup
[05:11] <gmitchel> no one knows what my desktop is larger than my screen size?
[05:11] <LeeJunFan> jerrold: that's to download the source and build it yourself. Not a repository for ubuntu. There are svn repos out there for ubuntu though.
[05:11] <Cuddles_Laptop> magnusda, any ideas what to put into it?
[05:12] <LeeJunFan> jerrold: you don't need current svn though, 0.1.2 beryl has the transparent cube and 3dworld.
[05:12] <shadowhywind> hay all i was wondering if anyone knew why explorer.exe keeps running on l inux?
[05:12] <LeeJunFan> jerrold: and building it yourself is a chore if you aren't versed in compiling.
[05:12] <magnusda> Cuddles_Laptop ~/.kde/Autostart/ create a .start in there
[05:12] <basstich> Thanks again, LeejunFan - I'm off to bed - and hope you find your answer, Cuddles
[05:12] <LeeJunFan> shadowhywind: what are you on?
[05:12] <Cuddles_Laptop> thanks bass
[05:12] <shadowhywind> edgy
[05:13] <LeeJunFan> shadowhywind: I mean what drugs? :p
[05:13] <magnusda> Cuddles_Laptop ops... I mean, create a bash script in there
[05:13] <magnusda> Cuddles_Laptop and make sure to +x it  :)
[05:13] <LeeJunFan> shadowhywind: how are you running explorer?
[05:13] <magnusda> Cuddles_Laptop  then it will run on KDE startup
[05:13] <shadowhywind> lol, i wish i was on something, it would make more sense that way
[05:13] <Cuddles_Laptop> magnusda, i could always put the commands into /etc/rc.local for that matter, but i don't know what commands will work.
[05:13] <shadowhywind> in my KDE system guard, its showing that c:\windows\system32\explorer.exe is running
[05:13] <jerrold> leejun: i just added  deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn..and did an apt-install beryl-plugins..i suppose i have to restart beryl
[05:14] <magnusda> Cuddles_Laptop just reread your question and realised I was answering the wrong one :)
[05:14] <shadowhywind> taking 2,688,088 of VmSize hehe
[05:14] <magnusda> Cuddles_Laptop what do you havce to do for your wlan card to work?
[05:14] <pacman> anyone good with mp3 players and Linux?
[05:15] <magnusda> Cuddles_Laptop unless it involves a gui thing, you could juts throw whatever you type each startup in there. But that would be obvious, so I'm guessing there's more to it :)
[05:15] <Cuddles_Laptop> magnusda, running edgy on a dell latitude, wlan0 won't connect automatically on boot [wlan0 is a pcmcia card using the r818x driver] . i have to run the kwireless assistant, and then ''sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'' to get it to work.
[05:15] <unix_infidel> pacman: its simply a matter of whether they are supported.
[05:15] <unix_infidel> not whether anyone is good at them.
[05:15] <shadowhywind> this is so werid, why would explorer.exe open up becuase wine starts?
[05:15] <pacman> mine is supported, or at least everything was peachy a couple days ago
[05:16] <unix_infidel> shadowhywind: because some apps are dependent on the program.
[05:16] <Cuddles_Laptop> shadowhywind, because explorer is the windows equivalent of kde's kicker
[05:16] <LeeJunFan> shadowhywind: all good malware starts up when the system does :p
[05:16] <unix_infidel> Cuddles_Laptop: that's not true at all.
[05:16] <shadowhywind> thats just werid!
[05:16] <magnusda> Cuddles_Laptop , do you have to do anything in kwireless assistant?
[05:16] <unix_infidel> shadowhywind: like say when you open up ms word.
[05:16] <rance> hey all, Im on the web site but I cant find a list of available packages for kubuntu/ubuntu, is there a web page where I can do a package search of the various repositories?
[05:16] <Cuddles_Laptop> unix_infidel, more or less. stupid question = stupid answer
[05:16] <LeeJunFan> !adept | rance
[05:17] <ubotu> rance: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[05:17] <BetaCookies> sleep(28800); <-- i'm sleeping [idle]  for 8 hours...
[05:17] <LeeJunFan> !repos | rance
[05:17] <ubotu> rance: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:17] <unix_infidel> shadowhywind: and then say you do control+open, the program uses explorer.exe
[05:17] <unix_infidel> Cuddles_Laptop: fair enough :)
[05:17] <Cuddles_Laptop> magnusda, yes, click on my hub's name. then it says failed, i exit it, and in konsole do the networking restart
[05:17] <shadowhywind> still werid, but thanks for the info
[05:17] <shadowhywind> i wont stress over why its open now hehe
[05:17] <rance> I know adept is the package manager, but I havent installed kubuntu yet, im downloading 6.10 now
[05:18] <rance> thanks for the package reference
[05:18] <unix_infidel> shadowhywind: remember you're trying to natively execute an environment.
[05:18] <LeeJunFan> rance: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[05:18] <Dr_willis> apt: in konqueror is handy
[05:18] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: ?
[05:19] <Dr_willis> for searching/browsing the packages. :)
[05:19] <magnusda> Cuddles_Laptop , is it possible to have the kwireless assistant automatically try to connect to your hub? Either by command line or clicking? Again, guessing you'd have tried if that was an option :)
[05:19] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: hah, i didnt even know you could do that.
[05:19] <unix_infidel> that is handy :)
[05:19] <Dr_willis> the power of Kioslaves!
[05:19] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:19] <Cuddles_Laptop> magnusda, tried, and no.
[05:20] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: konq is one of the few KDE apps i've ever used and liked.
[05:20] <Cuddles_Laptop> i'm assuming i need a command line util that does the same as kwireless assistant.
[05:20] <unix_infidel> if only the kioslaves could remember things like file associations and why not to do stupid stuff.
[05:21] <Cuddles_Laptop> is there such an animal?
[05:22] <unix_infidel> Cuddles_Laptop: hmm, what are you trying to do again?
[05:22] <Cuddles_Laptop> running edgy on a dell latitude, wlan0 won't connect automatically on boot [wlan0 is a pcmcia card using the r818x driver] . i have to run the kwireless assistant, and then ''sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'' to get it to work.
[05:22] <unix_infidel> Cuddles_Laptop: when you startup, does ifconfig show you have an ip address?
[05:22] <magnusda> Cuddles_Laptop , if you had that then the automation at bootup would be a decent workaround :)
[05:23] <Cuddles_Laptop> no unix_infidel.
[05:23] <Cuddles_Laptop> magnusda, exactly.
[05:23] <unix_infidel> Cuddles_Laptop: but you get an if at boot right?
[05:23] <unix_infidel> if=interface.
[05:23] <Cuddles_Laptop> yes, wlan0 shows up.
[05:23] <magnusda> Cuddles_Laptop , are you sure you can't get the same functionality that you now get from Wireless assistant as from network-manager, because if I'm not mistaken, that's a command line utility?
[05:24] <unix_infidel> Cuddles_Laptop: then all you need to do is define the essid with iwconfig and execute dhclient wlan0
[05:24] <unix_infidel> i know you get caught up in using gui tools but why do that when you can write a script that automatically connects to a WAP based on wireless strength
[05:24] <Cuddles_Laptop> unix_infidel, what if i'm roaming, and don't know the essid?
[05:25] <unix_infidel> iwlist [interface name]  scan
[05:25] <Cuddles_Laptop> unix_infidel, could you write such a script? i'm tired, have a migraine, and my hand is cramping badly.
[05:25] <unix_infidel> Cuddles_Laptop: that's the beauty of writing your own automated scripts, they just automatically connect to 1) either the AP you define or 2) the closest AP
[05:26] <unix_infidel> Cuddles_Laptop: I'm on windows :P
[05:26] <unix_infidel> This is all from memory :)
[05:26] <unix_infidel> Cuddles_Laptop: google for one, i'm pretty sure you're not the first one who's had such a need.
[05:26] <Cuddles_Laptop> 35 years with 2 normal hands, then one little accident, and i type like this.
[05:27] <unix_infidel> either that or look at wpa_supplicant, it automanages your wireless connections w/ or w/o encryption
[05:27] <Cuddles_Laptop> wpa_supplicant?
[05:27] <unix_infidel> !wpa_supplicant
[05:27] <ubotu> wpasupplicant: Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i). In component main, is important. Version 0.5.4-5 (edgy), package size 227 kB, installed size 588 kB
[05:27] <Cuddles_Laptop> hmmm.
[05:28] <unix_infidel> Remember, you DONT have to use encryption to use that tool.
[05:28] <unix_infidel> its VERY good at doing what it does.
[05:28] <solid_liq> anyone know how I can get a 32 bit version of libXcursor on amd64 arch?
[05:28] <unix_infidel> But remember, if you arent using encryption, please use EAP and some protocol limiting factors.
[05:29] <Cuddles_Laptop> i need to read up on it.
[05:41] <edu> hi!
[05:44] <tubaxx> hy all
[05:44] <tubaxx> any french poeple here ?
[05:45] <crimsun> #kubuntu-fr ?
[05:46] <Parkotron> How do I reset the font size when browsing in Konqueror?
[05:47] <tubaxx> thx crimsun
[05:52] <Admiral_Chicago> any P2p cilents on Ubuntu that aren't Frostwire?
[05:52] <intelikey> !p2p
[05:52] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[05:53] <intelikey> telnet and ssh
[05:54] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: i can't use ssh my network is blocking it
[05:54] <intelikey> that's sad
[05:55] <Admiral_Chicago> well i can ssh out but not in
[05:56] <intelikey> i'm so tired of drills..........
[05:58] <intelikey> odd that an .edu would block inbound ssh traffic
[05:59] <Admiral_Chicago> yea i know, the server here is awful. Microsoft Server 2003 :\
[05:59] <intelikey> ;/
[05:59] <Admiral_Chicago> itss not a bug, its a feature!
[05:59] <intelikey> lol yeah
[06:00] <pacman> anyone know anything about using mp3 players with Linux
[06:01] <intelikey> i bet ya the bot does
[06:01] <intelikey> !mp3 | pacman
[06:01] <ubotu> pacman: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:01] <pacman> I don't think that's going to help me
[06:01] <intelikey> why's that ?
[06:01] <pacman> all of a sudden, I can't delete music files from my mp3 player
[06:02] <pacman> nor can I put new files
[06:02] <intelikey> mount it with the propper umask=  and i bet ya you can
[06:02] <pacman> how do I do that
[06:03] <intelikey> !ntfs | ?
[06:03] <ubotu> ?: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:03] <intelikey> prolly no help there
[06:04] <intelikey> sudo mount -o remount,umask=000 /media/<mountpoint_of.the_player>
[06:04] <Dr_willis> It pays to learn how to mount things manually. :)
[06:05] <intelikey> try that ^   inturpreting the <*>   and see what ya get
[06:05] <pacman> crap
[06:05] <pacman> that worked
[06:05] <Dr_willis> Linux FUNdamentals. :)
[06:05] <intelikey> ???  and that's bad ?
[06:05] <pacman> no, just startled me
[06:06] <intelikey> lol
[06:06] <Admiral_Chicago> Hawkwind: netstat is a command that shows connections
[06:06] <_goofy_> is it possible to ftp over the internet to a friends conputer
[06:06] <pacman> thank you intelikey
[06:06] <intelikey> pacman do   man mount  and scroll down to the part about  vfat specific arguments.
[06:06] <Dr_willis> _goofy_,  if he has a ftp server :)
[06:07] <robson> someone can help me?
[06:07] <intelikey> there you can learn why that worked.    and you're welcome
[06:07] <_goofy_> so you cant just use a ftp client to connect like in a lan
[06:07] <Dr_willis> _goofy_,  ftp client connectsd to a ftp server
[06:07] <robson> i'm in trouble with my radeon 9200 video card
[06:08] <robson> anyone?
[06:08] <intelikey> !ati | robson
[06:08] <ubotu> robson: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:08] <Dr_willis> clare to clarify? :)
[06:08] <Dr_willis> Care to Clarify. heh heh..
[06:08] <intelikey> kare to klarify      ;p
[06:09] <Dr_willis> Clare to Caraify!
[06:09] <robson> i installed the driver, it's workin, but, when i run the command fglrxinfo i get the message
[06:09] <robson> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:09] <robson> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:09] <robson> Error: unable to open display :0
[06:09] <Dr_willis> try 'sudo fglrxinfo'
[06:09] <_goofy_> DR_willis how should i go about setting up my and his computer so we can share file over the internet
[06:09] <Dr_willis> If its 3working.. :) why worry.
[06:09] <robson> ok
[06:10] <robson> dont work :(
[06:10] <intelikey> _goofy_ ssh
[06:10] <Dr_willis> _goofy_,  have him download/install a ftp server.. or ssh server so you could use ftp or 'scp' to copy stuff over
[06:10] <robson> how can i know if 3d is working?
[06:10] <Dr_willis> robson,  install a 4d game. :)
[06:10] <Dr_willis> 3d even
[06:10] <Dr_willis> heh
[06:10] <Admiral_Chicago> Hawkwind: nevermind it's not that good
[06:10] <pacman> it's letting me delete, but not write
[06:10] <robson> hehe
[06:10] <racarr> robson: glxinfo | grep direct
[06:11] <racarr> robson: or, glxgears, if it's smooth 3D is probably working
[06:11] <seishinbyou> 
[06:11] <robson> i got the same error, but the last line up to Error: unable to open display (null)
[06:11] <racarr> robson: for glxinfo | grep direct?
[06:12] <robson> yes
[06:12] <racarr> Copypaste the output to
[06:12] <racarr> !pastebin
[06:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:12] <intelikey> pacman interesting.   should be full rwxrwxrwx permissions mask  (777 for the geek in you)  what are you using to copy  a gui tool ?
[06:12] <robson> ok
[06:12] <pacman> uhm...just copy/paste
[06:13] <robson> one second
[06:13] <racarr> pacman: If it's multiline no need to flood the channel, and apparently it is
[06:14] <pacman> racarr- not trying to copy and paste to here :)
[06:14] <robson> i got this
[06:14] <robson> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34910/
[06:14] <Admiral_Chicago> !jp-
[06:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jp- - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:14] <Admiral_Chicago> !jp
[06:14] <joaquin__> olaaaaaaaa
[06:14] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[06:14] <racarr> pacman: Err, took that out of context, sorry
[06:14] <pacman> tis okay
[06:14] <joaquin__> alguien abla espaol???
[06:14] <intelikey> so... konqueror....    try a konsole command   cp <file.name> /media/<destination>    and see if you get any error messages pacman
[06:14] <Dr_willis> !es
[06:14] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:15] <robson> someone can help me? plz :)
[06:15] <robson> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34910/
[06:15] <racarr> robson: Why are you root?
[06:15] <intelikey> racarr same reason i am ?
[06:16] <robson> i loged as root to do this commands
[06:16] <pacman> cp: cannot create regular file `/media/sdb1/less than jake-pezcore-03-johnny quest thinks were sellouts.mp3': Read-only file system
[06:16] <Dr_willis> unmount it.. and mount it read/write with the right permissions/umask options. :)
[06:17] <intelikey> robson you should not irc as root.   it's a security hole for your box that can even cause trubble for the rest of us.
[06:17] <pacman> walk me through that...I suck at teh linux commands
[06:17] <robson> ok
[06:17] <robson> sorry abou that man
[06:17] <Dr_willis> !mount
[06:17] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[06:17] <robson> tanks anyway
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Hmmm not  good factoid. heh...
[06:17] <robson> bye guys
[06:17] <Dr_willis> google for 'how to mount drives'
[06:17] <magnusda> intelikey : how would it affect other irc users?
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[06:17] <racarr> err, robson
[06:18] <racarr> you aren't IRCING as root
[06:18] <Dr_willis> thats a good site for examples.
[06:18] <racarr> ircing*
[06:18] <robson> ps: i am just as root in the terminal console
[06:18] <racarr> yes, that's fine
[06:18] <robson> is that a problem?
[06:18] <racarr> no, not for IRC
[06:18] <intelikey> pacman hmmmm   do  mount  and show me the ONE line that contains /media/sdb1/
[06:19] <robson> i am ircing in as an reular user
[06:19] <robson> regular*
[06:19] <intelikey> magnusda if your box gets rooted it can be used as an attack base for stupid people that like to try to take over irc channels....    it does happen.
[06:19] <Dr_willis> 'friends dont let friends irc as root' :)
[06:19] <magnusda> intelikey, ah, ok :)
[06:19] <robson> thank you guys
[06:19] <magnusda> hehe
[06:20] <robson> i resolved my problem
[06:20] <robson> see you
[06:20] <intelikey> robson good on ya mate
[06:20] <pacman> what do you mean, show you a line
[06:20] <winbond> !ati
[06:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:20] <pacman> you mean from an ls -al
[06:21] <intelikey> pacman if you type "mount "  in the konsole it lists all mounts    show me the one with  /media/sdb1/
[06:21] <pacman>  /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[06:22] <intelikey> it's not a read only    but it's not umasked correctly. pacman   did you umount that and remount it ?
[06:22] <intelikey> or unplug and replug ?
[06:22] <Dr_willis> he pasted the line for sda1 not sdb1 :)
[06:22] <pacman> I've unplugged and plugged a bunch
[06:23] <pacman> oops
[06:23] <Dr_willis> pacman,  you UNPLUGGED it 'while' it was mounted?
[06:23] <intelikey> i didn't even notice    lol
[06:23] <pacman>  /dev/sdb1 on /media/sdb1 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8,umask=000,umask=000)
[06:23] <pacman> yeah, but I've done it before, and everything was okay
[06:24] <intelikey> ok  that's ......  hmmmm dubble umask listings....  i never tried that to see if it worked or not....
[06:24] <Dr_willis> having umask= 3 different times... is..... a sign i dont think its ok... :)
[06:24] <Dr_willis> tripple umask listings
[06:24] <Dr_willis> if his gid/uid are correct. i dont think the umask are needed.
[06:24] <intelikey> and the 077 is what's being used.
[06:25] <intelikey> Dr_willis he may not be uid 1000 tho
[06:26] <intelikey> well that's a very convoluted mount string.....
[06:26] <Dr_willis> TIme for a windows answer! reboot!
[06:26] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:26] <intelikey> lol  no.
[06:26] <Dr_willis> and DONT unplug the things while they are mounted.
[06:27] <intelikey> yes that ^
[06:27] <pacman> so what should I do
[06:27] <Dr_willis> unmount the thing..
[06:27] <intelikey> sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[06:27] <Dr_willis> then mount it again manmually
[06:27] <pacman> device is busy
[06:27] <poningru> pacman: right click on the device and press eject
[06:28] <poningru> shut down anything that is using it
[06:28] <Dr_willis> and duck when it flys across the room. ;) kidding....
[06:28] <pacman> how bout safely remove?
[06:28] <pacman> I don't have eject
[06:28] <Dr_willis> thats the same thing.
[06:28] <Dr_willis> rember to use that in the future. :)
[06:29] <pacman> umount: /media/sdb1 is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[06:30] <intelikey> pacman; sudo eject /dev/sdb1 ;sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 -o rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[06:31] <pacman> eject: unmount of `/media/sdb1' failed
[06:31] <pacman> also /media/sdb1: device is busy
[06:31] <pacman> got that twice
[06:31] <dipesh> pacman "fuser -km /mnt/sdb1"
[06:32] <dipesh> kills everything that accesses /mnt/sdb1
[06:32] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:32] <dipesh> :)
[06:32] <pacman> :)
[06:33] <magnusda> firestarter killed my connection.... and BitchX didn't tell me :(
[06:33] <intelikey> yeah     i think it that 'blasted' kio thingy that trys to be M$ windows and mount every thing you plug in.....
[06:33] <dipesh> kdesktop shouldn't access /(media|mnt)/sdb1
[06:33] <xsacha> which is faster? SAK or CAB?
[06:33] <intelikey> dipesh automounter ?
[06:33] <xsacha> to get back to X
[06:33] <pacman> I'm lost....nothign is working
[06:34] <dipesh> intelikey: afaik automounter isn't part of kdesktop nor does automounter itself listen on the mountpointers... I guess a kio-slave or kdirwatcher or something like this is used internaly
[06:34] <dipesh> (so, an own process)
[06:34] <Dr_willis> Thats what ya get for PLuging/unpluging lots of times..
[06:34] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:35] <pacman> so what, unplug, and reboot?
[06:35] <pacman> :)
[06:35] <Dr_willis> or leave it plugged in and reboot
[06:35] <pacman> okay
[06:35] <pacman> brb
[06:35] <dipesh> pacman: at least try "fuser -m /media/sdb1" (without -k switch)
[06:35] <Dr_willis> or unplug it.. stick it in your nose.. stand on your head.. sing the national anthem. and reboot.
[06:35] <dipesh> uhm... to late
[06:35] <dipesh> rebooting is soooo windows like :-/
[06:35] <intelikey> dipesh i don't know what exactly but when i let kde put MOUNTED * icons on the desktop i had that problem.
[06:36] <Dr_willis> so it just pluging/unplugging stuff  over and over and hopeing it works
 rebooting is soooo windows like :-/   and generally not that answer
[06:36] <dipesh> intelikey: hmmm... funny. I use it regulary and never had that prob
[06:37] <intelikey> dipesh have you tried to cli eject a cd with the icon on the desktop ?
[06:37] <intelikey> that's where i found the problem.
[06:38] <intelikey> as i said i don't know   but assume it's a kio thing.
[06:38] <intelikey> and may somehow affect scsi (my interface) differently.
[06:38] <dipesh> intelikey: nope, not tried. let me check it :)
[06:39] <dipesh> uhm, not possible here since I removed all autostuff... eh, I'll try it tomorrow on my fresh kubuntu-laptop...
[06:39] <pacman> *sighs*
[06:40] <pacman> well, I got in unmounted
[06:43] <pacman> I give up
[06:44] <pacman> I need to get a shower and go to bed
[06:44] <demonic_Angel> hi
[06:44] <pacman> I'll be back tomorrow
[06:44] <dipesh> good night, pacman
[06:44] <intelikey> pacman you might want to get a second openion,  but i'd do this.                     sudo echo '/dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 vfat noauto,dmask=000,fmask=111,noexec,nosuid,user,users 0 0' | tee -a /etc/fstab
[06:44] <esaym> anyone use knetworkmanager?
[06:45] <pacman> intelikey: permission denied
[06:46] <magnusda> esaym, yes
[06:46] <intelikey> oh  sudo in the wrong place.
[06:46] <magnusda> :)
[06:46] <kai> what command can I found out what version of kubuntu im using?
[06:46] <esaym> does it work fine with wep and wpa?
[06:46] <poningru> kai: lsb_release iirc
[06:46] <intelikey> echo '/dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 vfat noauto,dmask=000,fmask=111,noexec,nosuid,user,users 0 0' | sudo tee -a /etc/fstab
[06:46] <magnusda> esaym, yup, WPA-PSK and WEP at least
[06:47] <esaym> it works good for me but tomorrow it get to try it on my girlfriends wpa enabled router, just wondering what to expect
[06:47] <intelikey> kai  lsb-release
[06:47] <magnusda> esaym , actually it's one of the pieces of software I'm most happy iwth
[06:47] <kai> thanx
[06:47] <esaym> ah, well hell yea
[06:47] <pacman> okay
[06:47] <magnusda> esaym , it remembers the settings for different networks, and always seems to pick the one I want (multiple overlapping networks :) )
[06:47] <kai> it says command not found
[06:47] <poningru> kai: lsb_release?
[06:48] <intelikey> pacman now the mount /media/sdb1      command   and the umount /media/sdb1     should work.
[06:48] <esaym> cool
[06:48] <intelikey> or sudo mount   that
[06:48] <pacman> the mount from before?
[06:48] <kai> no modules loaded
[06:48] <esaym> i wonder how to tell what kind of wpa is being used on her router?
[06:48] <pacman> or just: mount /media/sdb1
[06:48] <intelikey> no just that simple one
[06:48] <intelikey> sudo mount /media/sdb1
[06:48] <kai> the reason for me wanting toknow is because I want to see whats up with automatix
[06:49] <kai> is it worth tryin to get? is it that good or what?
[06:49] <esaym> I see NM has a option for automatic.  Maybe it will work just fine
[06:49] <pacman> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /media/sdb1
[06:50] <magnusda> !automatix > kai
[06:50] <esaym> magnusda do you have to type the wpa key into NM in hex or just regular numbers?
[06:50] <intelikey> then you didn't get it umounted or.  it automounted when you pluged it in...  i suspeect the second  in which case we are fighting  cli manual -vs- gui auto krap    and i'm not in the mood for it.
[06:51] <magnusda> esaym , I typed it in regular numbers (and letters)
[06:51] <pacman> intelikey: I think you're right
[06:51] <kai> the bot just jumped me :)
[06:51] <pacman> intelikey: I appreciate everything...I'll screw with it some more tomorrow, I've got to get to bed...4am is awful early
[06:51] <intelikey> pacman so turn it off and go to bed and tomarrow it will work maybe
[06:51] <esaym> oh ok. her's is just numbers hmm
[06:52] <ironfroggy> what would cause a grub installation with no errors to just hang at "Loading GRUB stage1.5."?
[06:52] <magnusda> esaym , that depends on what you set it to. You can choose whether to input it as hex or ascii
[06:52] <esaym> i see
[06:52] <magnusda> ironfroggy , my desktop hangs if I have my NWN2 DVD in :)
[06:52] <esaym> so i guess i would just choose ascii then
[06:53] <magnusda> ironfroggy , in my case it's the Securom software I guess :(
[06:53] <ironfroggy> magnusda: ive removed all other discs
[06:53] <intelikey> my thinking is that if it's automounted that line in fstab might prevent that when the machine is restarted..... but i don't sujest a reboot to see..
[06:53] <magnusda> esaym , if you have your key in ascii, then do that :)
[06:53] <ironfroggy> ive not been able to boot my desktop for nearly a month. im beyond despair for trying to repair it.
[06:53] <esaym> i shall :)
[06:53] <magnusda> ironfroggy , try getting SuperGrubDisk and see if that owrks for you
[06:53] <fit4lfe_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34912/
[06:54] <fit4lfe_> can someone help me this one !
[06:54] <magnusda> ironfroggy , it should be able to restore your boot record, evne if it's in dual boot with windows
[06:54] <magnusda> ironfroggy , *even
[06:54] <dipesh> ironfroggy: e.g. a grub config that points to the wrong kernel could also be the reason...
[06:55] <intelikey> ironfroggy what setup you got ?
[06:55] <freet15> pacman, bye
[06:55] <ironfroggy> no dual boot. one harddrive, one partition, installing grub to the MBR. its at hda. very very vanilla setup.
[06:55] <dipesh> ironfroggy: if you select the item from the grubmenu and press "e" you are able to see+edit the boot-params...
[06:56] <intelikey> ironfroggy hmmmm not bios mismatched is it ?
[06:56] <intelikey> grub can only boot what bios can boot
[06:56] <ironfroggy> dipesh: i cant get to the grub menu.
[06:57] <dipesh> uh
[06:57] <ironfroggy> intelikey: no, the bios is able to boot the disc, otherwise i wouldnt be getting any grub messages when it does so.
[06:57] <magnusda> ironfroggy , personally I'd give SGD a try, unless someone says that it can do more harm than good :)
[06:58] <dipesh> ironfroggy: that sounds like something went wrong with the grub-install then
[06:58] <intelikey> i.e.  if bios doesn't correctly recognize the disk/partiton  then grub is hosed       note; reading mbr != reading partition
[06:58] <winbond> whats the command to reconfigure the xserver in 6.10?
[06:58] <dipesh> intelikey: as far as I understood it, it was working for ironfroggy before, or?
[06:58] <kai> ..are there any java devel in here?
[06:58] <intelikey> winbond sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:58] <winbond> intelikey: ty
[06:59] <dipesh> kai: y
[06:59] <fit4lfe_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34912/
[06:59] <intelikey> dipesh & ironfroggy  i don't know how big that disk is but a boot partition might be the answer.
[06:59] <kai> becasue I need help setting up my kate for javac
[06:59] <kai> But I can't find the sdk and the jdk didn't either when I downloaded it from java.sun
[07:00] <dipesh> intelikey: y, true... could also be a prob. but iirc "grub-install" should print a warning in that case, or?
[07:00] <intelikey> fit4lfe_ i know a hack.
[07:01] <ironfroggy> i have reinstalled grub many dozens of times. it was working fine, until i tried to install edgy.
[07:02] <dipesh> KaiHanari: try clicking "Java SE" on java.sun.com (in the right under download)
[07:02] <dipesh> kai I meaned
[07:02] <kai> I did that already
[07:02] <kai> I got the net beans bundle
[07:02] <intelikey> fit4lfe_ sudo mv /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d . && sudo ln -s /bin/true /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d      and re-run your install command.  or just   sudo apt-get install -f       <<< that's a hack it will need undone after wards
[07:03] <kai> but I like to free hand it alot, cus I'm studying for my exam reall soon
[07:03] <dipesh> KaiHanari: guess then I still miss the prob; javac works from the Konsole?
[07:03] <fit4lfe_> how do I undo it though
[07:03] <KaiHanari> wtf
[07:03] <kai> I'll try it again
[07:04] <intelikey> ironfroggy ok that's a repartitioning that went off there?     clean install ?
[07:04] <intelikey> sudo rm /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d && mv invoke-rc.d /usr/sbin
[07:04] <intelikey> @ fit4lfe_
[07:04] <kai> I think I may need the java EE sdk and it all works
[07:05] <fit4lfe_> thx alot so appreciate it
[07:05] <kai> Cus i already have the jdk
[07:05] <fit4lfe_> so what  was wrong with it so I can understand
[07:05] <dipesh> KaiHanari: EE is for enterprise development... not needed if you just like to hack e.g. swing or such stuff...
[07:05] <KaiHanari> Eh?
[07:05] <kai> no
[07:06] <dipesh> KaiHanari: sorry
[07:06] <ironfroggy> intelikey: yeah it was a completely clean install.
[07:06] <kai> I can't use netbeans, it works fine there but when I kate and use javac it sayd bash command not found
[07:06] <dipesh> KaiHanari: I meaned kai, but the auto-completion in Kopete seems to choose your nick each time I type ka<tab>
[07:06] <intelikey> it expected invoke-rc.d  command to do something that it didn't do....   man invoke-rc.d   to understand what it does.    so we told the package manager that it did it. so it would not error out.
[07:06] <intelikey> @ fit4lfe_
[07:07] <dipesh> KaiHanari: then javac is not in your $PATH...
[07:07] <dipesh> *arg*
[07:07] <fit4lfe_> thanks so much
[07:07] <dipesh> sorry again!
[07:07] <kai> how do i set it?
[07:07] <KaiHanari> -_-
[07:07] <kai> I never really found out how the class path works in linux yet
[07:07] <kai> in Suse I could just download the java devel kit and I was good to go
[07:08] <macconline> hi... what software for linux how partition magic?
[07:08] <KaiHanari> well kai has the name im supposed to have anyway, just someone has regged the name with nickserv before i bothered to register it, so i had to change to register
[07:08] <intelikey> ironfroggy i'm still betting that the partition is not readable to grub!    for what ever reason.....   and the answer would be a boot partition.   it should be hda1  and less than 2g in size ext2 or 3  and mounted on  /boot
[07:08] <kai> ..and not knowing how to set the class path screwed me on connecting to mySql
[07:08] <dipesh> KaiHanari: "export PATH=/path/to/your/javac:$PATH" and if you like to have it persistent, add e.g. it to your ~/.bash_profile ... also it may a good idea to set export JAVA_HOME=/path/to/your/java/home/directory
[07:08] <ironfroggy> wait
[07:08] <dipesh> kai:
[07:09] <ironfroggy> less than 2gb in size? what?
[07:09] <intelikey> yes for the boot partition.
[07:09] <dipesh> KaiHanari: "export CLASSPATH=/the/additional/path:$CLASSPATH"
[07:09] <kai> so where ever the jdk installed thats the path?
[07:09] <dipesh> y
[07:10] <dipesh> KaiHanari: to test it, just copy+paste those "export..." line to your Konsole and look if "javac" is found...
[07:10] <dipesh> *arg again*
[07:10] <kai> becasue I had the driver but I never figured out how to set the class path so I had to unjar it in every directory I wanted to use it
[07:10] <kai> ok, one sec
[07:10] <intelikey> i have no problem with the idea of a 50m  boot partition  but some like more room than that. ironfroggy
[07:10] <ironfroggy> well i was just using the install defaults with one partition.
[07:11] <intelikey> ironfroggy yep   but it's not working for you.    so try something else.
[07:11] <ironfroggy> i have. ive tried everything i could think of./
[07:12] <ironfroggy> ive also tried lilo. ive tried sticking in an old (known to be good) drive as a seperate boot.
[07:12] <ironfroggy> ive run out of ideas.
[07:12] <intelikey> first rule of opensource.  there is not a "right way" there is your way, my way, and another way.
[07:12] <intelikey> lilo should boot it.
[07:12] <intelikey> lilo can boot things that grub cant
[07:14] <intelikey> second rule of opensource.  if it's worth writing it's worth sharing.
[07:14] <ironfroggy> it worked before, now it wont. i dunno.
[07:14] <ironfroggy> gotta get going anywaqy.
[07:14] <kai> do I need to restart it?
[07:14] <dipesh> kai: nope, linux is not windows :)
[07:14] <dipesh> you only need to restart if you compiled a new kernel and like to use it (but iirc there is also a way to work around that reboot)...
[07:15] <intelikey> this is not that M$ reboot OS    don't restart the computer to clear the screen.
[07:15] <kai> I put the commands in
[07:15] <kai> lol
[07:16] <kai> ...I didnt get any errors or anything but javac still doesnt work...this is where my javac is located /home/kai/jdk1.5.0_09/bin
[07:16] <magnusda> hmpf...KDM Theme manager isn't working
[07:16] <intelikey> dipesh indeed there are kernel options that allow for loading a new kernel in a running system.... but alas it is affectively the same as a reboot minus the bios post.
[07:16] <dipesh> KaiHanari: the "export PATH=...." into the Konsole and _at_the_same_konsole_window_ tried to run e.g. "javac" and it doesn't say "command not found" ?
[07:17] <kai> Are u serious, I didnt have to do all that last time
[07:17] <kai> Im using the kate terminal
[07:17] <draeath> Anyone know how to get the screensaver control panel in Kubuntu to show ALL the configuration? It seems that I have no way to specify things like colormap, fading, image/text/video sources etc
[07:18] <dipesh> intelikey: there was a project something like 2 years or so ago that was able to replace the loaded kernel in the mem... don't know if how far it was or if the code was merged into the kernel...
[07:18] <intelikey> dipesh we're probably talking about the same thing.   what i read was in the kernel docs.
[07:18] <dipesh> KaiHanari: and it doesn't say "command not found" any longer? then it's working now :)
[07:19] <dipesh> eh... now Kopete replaces kai: with KaiH... hmmm...
[07:19] <kai> lol
[07:20] <dipesh> intelikey: but then it's not the same as a reboot since e.g. services don't need to be restarted
[07:20] <dipesh> or?
[07:20] <dipesh> KaiHanari: test
[07:21] <dipesh> damn, something wired is going on...
[07:21] <intelikey> dipesh actually the services and running apps are not saved,  so...
[07:22] <draeath> Anyone know how to get the screensaver control panel in Kubuntu to show ALL the configuration? It seems that I have no way to specify things like colormap, fading, image/text/video sources etc
[07:22] <dipesh> intelikey: "not saved"?
[07:23] <dipesh> "kai": so, java+javac works now?
[07:23] <intelikey> dipesh it would be desasterous to insert loaded kernel modules into another kernel that could be major versions apart
[07:23] <intelikey> dipesh it's the : used as a autocomplete char i suspect
[07:24] <kai> no
[07:25] <kai> I don't Im on sun.com right now
[07:25] <william> ok ive installed kubuntu 6.10 and I love it, but the user i set up, seems to be root, do I need to add a weaker user? or am I only psuedo root?
[07:25] <intelikey> william you are root jr.
[07:26] <intelikey> !sudo | william
[07:26] <ubotu> william: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:26] <ironfroggy> could any odd hardware problems cause grub to fail booting as im seeing?
[07:26] <intelikey> and yes a weeker user might be a good idea.
[07:26] <ironfroggy> considering that i have the exact same problem across multiple fress installs on this box?
[07:28] <intelikey> ironfroggy yes.  but i still think if there is anyway to make a manual entry in the bios (with some bios's there is not)  you should set the disk pramaters  cyl/head/sect  correctly.
[07:28] <william> i keep trying to install the java plugin , and it just hangs on a screen asking to click ok, but it doesnt let me click
[07:28] <dipesh> intelikey: well, if the kernel got really replaced in the mem + all old modules are unloaded + matching modules of the new kernel are loaded + ... :-) anyway, noone sayed it's useful to try it to save such kind of reboots ;)
[07:28] <kai> this blows, i can't java anything
[07:29] <Jucato> william: don't use Adept when installing Sun Java
[07:29] <ironfroggy> intelikey: i dont know if its relevent, but i never had this problem until i installed an ubuntu based distro on this box. ive been running other flavors on it for over half a decade.
[07:29] <intelikey> dipesh "matching modules of the new kernel"  assumes a lot of backward compatability.   linux is not famous for that.
[07:29] <william> but what about the plugin for firefox?
[07:30] <Jucato> william: use "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin" in Konsole to install that
[07:30] <intelikey> ironfroggy it's alos quite possable that ubuntu didn't set the disk parameters correctly and thus wrote a non-sensical partition.
[07:30] <dipesh> "kai": so, what does not work? what kind of errormessage you get now on "javac"?
[07:30] <kai> command not found
[07:31] <dipesh> "kai": then the path you defined at export PATH="..." is wrong and to download another package from java.sun.com wan't solve it...
[07:31] <intelikey> ironfroggy either way.  one thing seems obvious  bios and linux are not in agreement about how to read your disk.
[07:31] <momal> Anyone know good program like Nero Vision for windows? | I need simple menu/chapter support
[07:31] <ironfroggy> intelikey: if that was the case, how is it getting past grub stage 1?
[07:31] <kai> I never had to set the class path before, Suse did it for me I guess
[07:31] <ironfroggy> intelikey: if that was the case, wouldnt it have trouble even finding the bootloader?
[07:32] <momal> Anyone know good program like Nero Vision? but one good with linux :) | I need simple menu/chapter support
[07:32] <intelikey> ironfroggy no.  that's in the mbr
[07:32] <dipesh> "kai": let's say you installed netbeams in "/opt/nb" ... and your javac is in "/opt/nb/java/bin/javac"... then it should look like "export PATH="/opt/nb/java/bin:$PATH"
[07:32] <intelikey> first 512 bites of the disk
[07:32] <ironfroggy> intelikey: ok so you are saying the problem is that the stage1 loader is looking for the stage1.5 loader in the wrong place? make sense.
[07:33] <kai> do I have to do that every single time I restart my comp?
[07:33] <intelikey> that's what i'm saying
[07:33] <william> still doesnt work, hangs on a java screen asking to click ok
[07:33] <Jucato> william: in Konsole?
[07:33] <kai> I had that problem
[07:33] <william> yes in konsole
[07:33] <ironfroggy> intelikey: is there a way to inspect where grub thinks they are and to inspect the actual location on disk of a file's inode, so i can discover this?
[07:33] <kai> william: fixit using the cli
[07:34] <Jucato> william: use your keyboard to select OK, and hit Enter
[07:34] <dipesh> "kai": nope. once it works you are able to put the lines e.g. into your ~/.bash_profile ...
[07:34] <kai> Jucato: in the package install it won;t wokr
[07:34] <kai> dipesh: wheres the bash profile located?
[07:34] <Jucato> kai: I know. I'm the one who told him to use apt-get
[07:35] <william> oh that is so totally lame
[07:35] <kai> my bad
[07:35] <william> but it worked
[07:35] <ironfroggy> any idea what exit code 20 means for grub-reinstall?
[07:36] <intelikey> ironfroggy yes.  but don't get me started lying about how...   hehhe    one could use a hex editor and look at the hd dirrectly.      or something like  dd if=/dev/hda count=128 | hd | less         you might want to increase the count  idk
[07:36] <kai> I can put the export path anywhere? Doesnt matter
[07:37] <dipesh> "kai": in "~" what is your homedirectory (so, e.g. /home/myusername/.bash_profile) ... cause the filename starts with a point, it's a hidden file (for the case you wonder that you don't see it in konqi).
[07:37] <ironfroggy> intelikey: is there anyway to remedy a system that seems to be having such weird faults?
[07:37] <ironfroggy> maybe some flags to give grub?
[07:37] <intelikey> ironfroggy the old nortons utility could even let you read dirrectly.
[07:38] <kai> dipesh: I found, I need to put it in the if/fi statements right?
[07:38] <dipesh> "kai": just put it at the bottom and it should work... the .bash_profile is readed+executed if you login, normaly by the .bashrc file...
[07:38] <intelikey> ironfroggy yes maybe but you need to get linux and bios to agree on the disk stats  if possable   that's the answer in a nut-shell
[07:38] <dipesh> "kai": in what if-statements? well, just put it at the bottom outside of any if-statement
[07:38] <kai> I was only askin cus theres to if statements and I wasnt sure if it had to go some where specific
[07:38] <kai> ok
[07:40] <ironfroggy> intelikey: well is there a way to discover which one is wrong?
[07:40] <intelikey> correct which ever is not in agreement with the info on the hd it's self.... the sticker has always held the disk cyl/head/sect info.   check it and compare bios.  if that's correct you need to make linux agree with them before you install so the partitioning will be correct.
[07:41] <intelikey> pull the cover and read the sticker
[07:41] <ironfroggy> ugh oh god
[07:41] <ironfroggy> this case is so crappy i actually have to dismantle the case itself to be able to remove the harddrive.
[07:41] <ironfroggy> ill just find a way to cheat
[07:41] <intelikey> yuch.....
[07:42] <Search4Lancer> what's the format for including username and password in an FTP URL?
[07:42] <intelikey> got docs on the hd ?
[07:42] <intelikey> owners manual
[07:42] <william> i know p2p is probly off topic, but can anyone tell me a good client for kubuntu?
[07:42] <ironfroggy> in the past for backups ive actually run IDE cables out of the case and into another box, just to avoid removing the disk.
[07:42] <dipesh> "kai": you may also like to take a look at http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/essential/environment/paths.html ... there it's more logical explained + examples are shown. May useful to understand why it's needed + how classpath's are working, etc.
[07:42] <intelikey> websearch the manufacture ?
[07:42] <kai> dipesh: ok, Im on it
[07:42] <Search4Lancer> or, can anyone give me a better FTP client than Kasablanca or filerunner?
[07:43] <dipesh> william: kmldonkey is nice :)
[07:43] <william> gftp?
[07:43] <intelikey> ironfroggy hehhe i have an ide cable sticking out of a box.... :)   but just cause i don't have usb ports on it and no usb cradle for an ide drive....
[07:44] <intelikey> Search4Lancer kftp gftp ncftp ftp sftp....
[07:45] <dipesh> Search4Lancer: konqueror also supports ftp... just put "ftp://whatever.com" into the locationbar... it also works transparently from within _any_ KDE-application (e.g. open Kate, choose File open and put there ftp://... into the locationbar. If you save the open file, it will be automaticly saved on the ftp-server.
[07:45] <intelikey> s/kftp/kftpgrabber/
[07:45] <Search4Lancer> thanks
[07:45] <houseman> hello everyone
[07:45] <intelikey> yes and so does mozilla   and most other web browsers
[07:46] <intelikey> mc  does ftp too iirc
[07:46] <chupa-chups> hello every body iam  just ttrying to install newer vergion of msn and iam being asked for mirror would u tell me what is mirror ???????????????
[07:46] <houseman> has anyone tried to install Octave on kubuntu
[07:46] <dipesh> intelikey: except that konqi is not a webbrowser nor is the ftp-code related to konqi...
[07:46] <chupa-chups> houseeman - what does it do
[07:47] <intelikey> dipesh konqueror is a web browesr
[07:47] <houseman> it is a mathbased language used for engineering
[07:47] <intelikey> and file manager.
[07:47] <houseman> it is similar to Matlab
[07:47] <chupa-chups> oh thanx
[07:47] <houseman> i tried the package manager but it says it would cause breaks
[07:47] <dipesh> intelikey: it's a container for any kpart... the webbrowser is khtml which has the khtml_part-kpart used to display html-pages within e.g. konqi. But you could also use e.g. kmldonkey to browse through the web ;)
[07:47] <chupa-chups> could i find free download of autocad
[07:48] <houseman> so i am doing an upgrade and going to try it again
[07:48] <intelikey> dipesh oh konqi.
[07:48] <houseman> idk autocad
[07:48] <chupa-chups> from where ??????????] 
[07:49] <houseman> chupa-chups, are you talking to me about autocad?
[07:49] <chupa-chups> yes
[07:49] <houseman> i dont know anything about autocad
[07:49] <chupa-chups> mmmmmmmmmm
[07:50] <houseman> i am trying to get Octave to work
[07:50] <chupa-chups> so waht is idk autocad
[07:50] <chupa-chups> the same pro?????
[07:50] <houseman> no, it is like a program called Matlab.
[07:50] <chupa-chups> ic
[07:51] <chupa-chups> so would i ask u about something
[07:51] <houseman> sure. but i am kinda new
[07:51] <chupa-chups>  iam  just ttrying to install newer vergion of msn and iam being asked for mirror would u tell me what is mirror ???????????????
[07:51] <intelikey> dipesh but that's like saying mozilla is not a web browser....    by that standard, it's not.  it's the window that the browser or the mail reader or the composer or .... runs in.
[07:52] <houseman> a mirror is a site that helps reduce heavy traffic loads by offering the same download in multiple servers
[07:52] <robotgeek> houseman: i would recommend using koctave
[07:52] <houseman> i tried that robotgeek
[07:52] <houseman> it says break in install
[07:52] <chupa-chups>  ok if iam from egypt would i select north america for example
[07:52] <houseman> sure
[07:52] <robotgeek> houseman: weird, can you paste (http://rafb.net/paste) the whole message
[07:53] <chupa-chups>  thnk u very much
[07:53] <dipesh> intelikey: well... the part that does render html-pages (so khtml) is not the same that does render ftp...
[07:53] <houseman> not right now, i am running a whole system upgrade to make sure dependincies are met
[07:54] <intelikey> dipesh to the user it's all one.
[07:54] <houseman> no prob chupa
[07:54] <dipesh> intelikey: y, absolutly true.
[07:55] <houseman> robotgeek: have you used Matlab and koctave
[07:55] <robotgeek> houseman: yes, matlab not on linux thoughh
[07:56] <intelikey> robotgeek why rafb ?     just wondering... cause ubuntu has an official pastebin.
[07:56] <dipesh> intelikey: and that's the great thing. while it looks as beeing the same, under the hood it's all component-based and could be reused at just any application with just some lines of code. damn cool technique.
[07:56] <houseman> robotgeek: have you ever seen koctave?
[07:56] <robotgeek> intelikey: well, that is what is in my autocomplete list :)
[07:56] <oliver_> hi
[07:56] <robotgeek> houseman: yes
[07:57] <houseman> does it look like matlab does in windows?
[07:57] <robotgeek> houseman: look?
[07:57] <oliver_> has someone successfully compiled dazuko
[07:58] <houseman> nvrmind, i am going to the homepage too see koctave
[07:58] <robotgeek> houseman: not very similiar
[07:58] <intelikey> dipesh and if they didn't try so hard to make everything "just work" with automounting like M$ i'd really like it.    as it stands i tolerate it i guess.
[08:00] <magnusda_> intelikey , I think the automounting feature of KDE is awesome. If Linux is ever going to be able to really go mainstream it needs to "just work" :)
[08:00] <dipesh> intelikey: or just disable it like I did on my desktop-system :)
[08:00] <intelikey> magnusda_ then i hope linux "never really goes mainstream"
[08:01] <intelikey> i hate M$ xp   and if linux ever becomes like it, i'll find something else to use.
[08:01] <dipesh> intelikey: at the end it's all about beeing able to use a feature or don't use it. The user is able to decide while the distributor defines what is enabled/disabled by default...
[08:02] <kai> dipesh: I got it to work but everytime I close the console I have to do it it again
[08:02] <magnusda_> intelikey , like dipesh said. Just disable it. It's hard to explain to someone why they cannot use their USB keys without getting involved with a console and such
[08:02] <intelikey> dipesh that's not so true for xp  and that's why i hate it so much.    well that and the eula     and the price    and ....
[08:02] <houseman> robotgeek: i haven't compiled anything on kubuntu before, but i have had experience with it in slack, do you think i should try to compile koctave and octave?
[08:02] <dipesh> "kai": and you did put it into your ~/.bash_profile ? hmmm...
[08:02] <robotgeek> houseman: hmm, no need really.
[08:03] <kai> dipesh: right now I'm in my .bash_profile its still not working system wide
[08:03] <robotgeek> houseman: i think you will need to compile libaltas, etc etc, which can be quite painful
[08:03] <dipesh> intelikey: same here + the politic + the missing freedom + the missing sourcecode + .... :)
[08:03] <houseman> robotgeek: how so, the package manager wont do it for me
[08:03] <houseman> oh
[08:03] <houseman> ic
[08:03] <intelikey> magnusda_ you don't have to get involved with the cli   a script would be fine.  just point and click to mount things.....   would be much better imo than automounting if you don't want it mounted.
[08:03] <robotgeek> houseman: not compile it for you
[08:04] <kai> ...is there anything else Im missing
[08:04] <houseman> robotgeek: I'll keep trying the packages
[08:04] <intelikey> but magnusda_ i'm through discussing it.
[08:04] <houseman> robotgeek: does the dpkg tool work well
[08:05] <robotgeek> houseman: apt-get works extremely well
[08:05] <magnusda_> intelikey , alright, I won't reply, then.
[08:05] <dipesh> "kai": eh, the .bash_profile is only for the user... /etc/profile is for system-wide stuff (so, for all users)...
[08:05] <houseman> robotgeek: ok, thanks
[08:05] <intelikey> magnusda_ reply if you wish  but i'm finished.
[08:06] <kai> oh
[08:06] <kai> dipesh: oops
[08:06] <kai> lemme try again
[08:07] <houseman> robotgeek: what do you use Matlab for?
[08:08] <intelikey> well maybe i'm not.   i have one other thing to add.    i like the way linux works "without a gui running".   but when starting a gui changes the way things are working, it pisses me off.
[08:08] <robotgeek> houseman: i dont use it anymore, but i used to use the control systems toolbox extensively
[08:08] <kai> dipesh: Do I put the exact same thing in the profile?
[08:08] <dipesh> "kai": y
[08:08] <koriel> how can I add kubuntu features like transparency in windows, changing desktop with wheel mouse, smoothing dragging windows etc
[08:08] <koriel> ?
[08:08] <magnusda_> intelikey , no need to reply if I'm the only one reading it ;)
[08:08] <kai> dipesh: For setting the class path
[08:09] <intelikey> :)
[08:09] <kai> PATH=/home/kai/jdk1.5.0_09/bin: export path?
[08:09] <kai> thats it?
[08:09] <intelikey> kai no
[08:09] <intelikey> kai add  :$PATH
[08:10] <dipesh> intelikey: well, at linux GUI and console are working together pretty good. So, you are able to control GUI-apps from the konsole...
[08:10] <kai> what is it supposed to look like?
[08:10] <kai> PATH=/home/kai/jdk1.5.0_09/bin: $PATH?
[08:10] <intelikey> no space
[08:10] <koriel> kai: you can do something like that ln -s /home/kai/jdk1.5.0_09/bin/java /usr/bin/java and the same for javac
[08:11] <intelikey> and you shoudl quote it.
[08:11] <ironfroggy> WTF
[08:11] <dipesh> "kai" plus the "export" part like described at the sun-page I posted before...
[08:11] <intelikey> koriel and that will need sudo
[08:11] <ironfroggy> so i went to install lilo, and i reboot and what do i see?
[08:11] <ironfroggy> now its made it all the way to grub stage 2 before locking up!
[08:11] <koriel> oh he is not a sudoer?
[08:11] <ironfroggy> does that even count as some weird kind of progress?
[08:11] <dipesh> koriel: but that does not solve the classpath-prob ;)
[08:11] <intelikey> ironfroggy lol   no
[08:12] <koriel> sorry I didn't read the whole conversation, my bad
[08:12] <ironfroggy> seriously, wtf?!
[08:12] <kai> Im confused again
[08:12] <kai>  PATH=/home/kai/jdk1.5.0_09/bin: $PATH
[08:12] <kai> so thats not right?
[08:12] <kai>  PATH=/home/kai/jdk1.5.0_09/bin:export $PATH
[08:12] <intelikey> export PATH="/home/kai/jdk1.5.0_09/bin:$PATH"
[08:12] <kai> thats what I put the first time
[08:12] <kai> oh
[08:12] <kai> damnit
[08:13] <intelikey> one command is better than two
[08:14] <kai> i need the ""?
[08:14] <qbit> hrmmm - this new kvirc took out the "" - it was pasted
[08:14] <intelikey> remember the second rule of opensource,   there is not a 'right way'  there are many ways.  your way, my way, another way,  maybe even a better way.    but not a "right way"
[08:14] <qbit> lol - any way that gets it done   :-)
[08:15] <kai> ok
[08:15] <dipesh> :)
[08:15] <kai> I just put export PATH=/home/kai/jdk1.5.0_09/bin:$PATH
[08:15] <qbit> resin is about the only thing I run that really seems to need to find the jdk
[08:15] <kai> im my et/profile and when I javac it still say command not found
[08:15] <intelikey> that should work  but you should always quote thing with $ in them
[08:16] <intelikey> you only read etc/profile on login.
[08:16] <intelikey> logout and try again.
[08:16] <dipesh> "kai": cause you don't relogin, the /etc/profile is not readed... so, for now you may like to "source /etc/profile" ... later not needed cause then /etc/profile will be readed on login...
[08:16] <chupa-chups> hi all
[08:16] <kai> so I do have to restart?
[08:16] <TheBlunderbuss> Hi there.  Do I need to write the LiveCD to a CDR or can I write to CDRW?
[08:16] <intelikey> no just lobin
[08:17] <intelikey> login
[08:17] <kai> every one made fun of me about that
[08:17] <kai> So just re-login?
[08:17] <intelikey> yep
[08:17] <kai> ok, gravy
[08:17] <qbit> TheBlunderbuss: CDRW is what I just used to install Edgy
[08:17] <kai> I will be back in 5
[08:17] <chupa-chups>  wht program should pay files .wav
[08:18] <chupa-chups>  sorry , what program should play files .wav
[08:18] <houseman> chuppa: amarok, xmms
[08:18] <intelikey> dipesh and yes i know . /etc/profile would initiate that for one shell  but imo better to let him login so it's user wide.
[08:18] <chupa-chups> they dont want to
[08:18] <houseman> that is strange
[08:18] <dipesh> intelikey: y, true :)
[08:19] <houseman> do any sounds play?
[08:19] <chupa-chups> what can i do for that
[08:19] <chupa-chups> any extensions
[08:19] <houseman> yeah, will any sound file play at all
[08:20] <chupa-chups> wait
[08:20] <intelikey> dipesh hehhe also if peradventure there was a space in $PATH  snit will go to ned and he'll learn why you quote things like that   lol
[08:20] <ironfroggy> ugh now i get as far as 'LI' on boot
[08:20] <chupa-chups> another song .wav is played now
[08:20] <TheBlunderbuss> Thanks qbit
[08:20] <chupa-chups> i dont know
[08:20] <houseman> that is strange
[08:20] <chupa-chups> he is playing some and the other not
[08:21] <houseman> perhaps some of them are corrupted
[08:21] <chupa-chups> no they are played all under window
[08:21] <chupa-chups> no they are played all under windows
[08:21] <dipesh> intelikey: I still remember the time I was starting with linux and I made exactly the same mistakes... but it's really a good way to learn the basics :)
[08:22] <dipesh> (like taking care of evil spaces :)
[08:22] <intelikey> all electronics run on smoke.    "snit > ned" ==  "smoke not in this noise emiting diode"      technitions joke.
[08:23] <intelikey> pronounced "snit went to ned"  ^
[08:25] <qbit> chupa-chups: iirc maybe not all .wav files in windows are necessarily in the same codec format
[08:25] <qbit> so even though they'll all play in windows there are some that won't in non-windows
[08:26] <intelikey> should be one of two formats  but the bit rates can very greatly   iirc
[08:26] <qbit> I've seen that before
[08:28] <intelikey> and .wav is supported in linux without propritary "codecs"     is it not ?
[08:29] <qbit> well I've always installed the extra-codecs package immediately on install so I don't know if it does/doesn't with a default install
[08:30] <qbit> but I have seen .wav files that would play in windows that won't play in any other *nix system, ie FreeBSD, Linux, or Solaris
[08:30] <xsacha> wont play without proprietary ?
[08:31] <qbit> in other words I wanted him to know that it's probably the particular .wavs themselves and not his system, per se
[08:32] <chupa-chups> there is another problim
[08:32] <xsacha> how do you install extra-codecs ?
[08:32] <xsacha> like where do i get it
[08:32] <chupa-chups> ok continu then i will tell the next problim
[08:32] <qbit> add the multi lines to your sources.list
[08:32] <chupa-chups> ???????????
[08:33] <qbit> I think it's an FAQ and a bot help thingy
[08:33] <chupa-chups> i know how to reach sources list by command line but what is multi lines
[08:33] <qbit> they won't package the extra-codecs with the base system 'cause of proprietary nonsense
[08:33] <ironfroggy> with "GRUB Read Error" what might it have an error reading and why?
[08:34] <chupa-chups> the next problim is : my movies .avi and .asf dont want to be playded too
[08:34] <intelikey> partition.  invalid/improper block size
[08:34] <qbit> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34920/
[08:35] <intelikey> !mp3 | chupa-chups
[08:35] <ubotu> chupa-chups: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:35] <qbit> here's mine for an example - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34920/
[08:35] <qbit> oops - sorry 'bout hitting it twice  :-)
[08:36] <chupa-chups> ok ok thank u for help
[08:36] <ironfroggy> also, i got this error specifically when i tried to install grub to a floppy (i am suspecting there is definately some issue with my bios and harddrive.
[08:38] <qbit> you see the universe lines, just make another set like them with multiverse, refresh and you should be able to pull in the w32codecs package
[08:38] <qbit> i think that's where they live
[08:38] <intelikey> why not just add multiverse to that line ?
[08:39] <intelikey> anyway.
[08:39] <qbit> get libxine-extracodecs too
[08:39] <intelikey> my sources.list is four lines long.
[08:39] <qbit> yeah - mine could definitely stand a good cleaning
[08:40] <wonderboy> hello all
[08:40] <qbit> it's kind of been cut and pasted for a while
[08:40] <qbit> it's sloppy
[08:40] <wonderboy> is somebody here who use kubuntu?
[08:40] <wonderboy> !!!
[08:40] <kruemeltee> sure
[08:41] <intelikey> correction.  i removed the extra one that had the non-free stuff  it's only three lines long now.
[08:41] <wonderboy> I want a program like odc++
[08:41] <qbit> clean is good, I should really clean mine up too   :-)
[08:41] <wonderboy> a name
[08:41] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, whats odc++?
[08:41] <wonderboy> !
[08:41] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main universe multiverse
[08:41] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main universe multiverse
[08:41] <intelikey> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main universe multiverse
[08:41] <wonderboy> dc++
[08:41] <intelikey> clean  ^
[08:41] <wonderboy> u don't know
[08:42] <dipesh> direct connect?
[08:42] <kruemeltee> sorry, no ... but wait a second
[08:42] <Jucato> you don't have restricted, intelikey?
[08:42] <intelikey> no
[08:42] <wonderboy> yup
[08:42] <intelikey> don't need or want it
[08:42] <Jucato> figures :)
[08:42] <intelikey> but could be added to each line if needed
[08:42] <wonderboy> is a download program
[08:43] <Jucato> intelikey: you probably don't need it, as most stuff in restricted are kernel related, and you compile your own, right?
[08:43] <dipesh> wonderboy: afaik mldonkey also supports directconnect and has with kmldonkey a nice gui...
[08:43] <intelikey> does kinda figure, don't it Jucato.....  :)    guess i never thought of it.
[08:43] <Jucato> heh :)
[08:43] <wonderboy> is somebody who know?
[08:43] <intelikey> Jucato yes rolled my own.
[08:44] <kruemeltee> I think dipesh already told you, wonderboy
[08:44] <qbit> my restricted was for the xen module
[08:44] <intelikey> wonderboy what did you say dc++ is ?
[08:44] <wonderboy> sorry i was to the bath
[08:44] <wonderboy> were
[08:44] <wonderboy> yes
[08:45] <dipesh> 08:44:53 < dipesh >  wonderboy: afaik mldonkey also supports directconnect and has with kmldonkey a nice gui...
[08:45] <kruemeltee> :-) "wonderboy: afaik mldonkey also supports directconnect and has with kmldonkey a nice gui..."
 Jucato yes rolled my own. < that's a smoker talking, right there ;)
[08:45] <Jucato> hahah
[08:45] <intelikey> Bubba_Gump you would have been correct many years ago.
[08:45] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[08:46] <Bubba_Gump> the language stays :D
[08:46] <wonderboy> mldonkey
[08:46] <wonderboy> this is it?
[08:46] <intelikey> Bubba_Gump the knowledge stays to... but from it all i am now free
[08:46] <dipesh> wonderboy: a p2p-app that supports different protocols like torrent, donkey, dc, ...
[08:46] <Bubba_Gump> cool
[08:46] <Bubba_Gump> i used to smoke too
[08:46] <Bubba_Gump> two years now :)
[08:47] <Jucato> smoke what? that is the question :)
[08:47] <Bubba_Gump> heheheh
[08:47] <wonderboy> i want to download from my network
[08:47] <intelikey> Jucato by the carton and by the pound   take your pick.
[08:47] <Jucato> lol
[08:48] <kraut> moin
[08:48] <intelikey> but like the ex i didn't inhale
[08:48] <intelikey> ex-prez  is should specify
[08:49] <dipesh> wonderboy: should be np since ml has options for just everything. but I never tried the dc-support on ml, so I don't know how far the implementation is...
[08:49] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, i found dctc ... but it has no gui, it's text-based
[08:49] <wonderboy> k
[08:49] <wonderboy> thanks
[08:49] <intelikey> wonderboy what kind of dirrect connection you looking for ?
[08:50] <intelikey> most irc clients can dcc
[08:50] <wonderboy> something like dc++ for windows
[08:50] <sungam_> has anyone else tried running Songbird? It loads fine, but when I try to play a song in it it just says "Error" where it should print the song title, how much it's played and all that
[08:50] <wonderboy> i don't know if u used befor
[08:51] <makis> hi everybody
[08:51] <intelikey> wonderboy rather than me going looking for what that is just tell me what it does
[08:51] <intelikey> i don't do windows
[08:51] <wonderboy> i do
[08:51] <makis> has anyone installed a firewall for kubuntu?is it necessary?
[08:51] <Admiral_Chicago> !p2p > wonderboy
[08:51] <Admiral_Chicago> wonderboy: linux dc++
[08:51] <wonderboy> downloads diferent stufs from networks
[08:52] <wonderboy> sure?
[08:52] <Admiral_Chicago> yea
[08:52] <wonderboy> k
[08:52] <wonderboy> thanks
[08:52] <intelikey> wonderboy emule ?   ktorrents   telnet  ssh/scp    ?
[08:53] <wonderboy> i try mldonkey now
[08:53] <kruemeltee> good luck wonderboy
[08:53] <wonderboy> thanks
[08:53] <wonderboy> i need it
[08:53] <intelikey> dcgui - Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing)
[08:54] <intelikey> something like that ?
[08:54] <intelikey> it's in the repos
[08:54] <wonderboy> i think so
[08:54] <intelikey> !dcgui
[08:54] <ubotu> dcgui: Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.80-5 (edgy), package size 432 kB, installed size 1292 kB
[08:55] <intelikey> it's all in knowing what you want to do.
[08:56] <Alzi2> Hey. pseudo-transparency doesn't work in ANY app. Nor Konsole, Nor Crystal (kwin theme) wants to display pseudo-transparency. If I try to enable it and I click OK, when I check back, transparency is still not on... it's annoying. I want proper pseudo-transparency. Anyone?
[08:56] <ironfroggy> how do i install lilo onto a floppy?
[08:57] <ironfroggy> i tried `lilo -M /dev/fd0` after repartitioning the floppy, and it still tells me 'Fatal: /dev/fd0 is not a master device with a primary parition table'
[08:57] <Alzi2> ironfroggy: You gotta format the floppy first.
[08:57] <wonderboy> were i can find dcgui?
[08:58] <intelikey> lilo-doc - Documentation for LILO (LInux LOader)  <<< i'd have to read... you can do it for me... :)
[08:58] <ironfroggy> Alzi2: how do i do that?
[08:58] <ironfroggy> Alzi2: i havent used a floppy since i was in grade school.
[08:58] <intelikey> mkdosfs /dev/fd0
[08:58] <Alzi2> ironfroggy: Just right-click the floppy in KDE and select format, OR do this command: 'mkdosfs /dev/fd0'
[08:58] <houseman> robotgeek: i cannot install octave, or koctave
[08:59] <Alzi2> intelikey: Can you help me with my problem?
[08:59] <Alzi2> Hey. pseudo-transparency doesn't work in ANY app. Nor Konsole, Nor Crystal (kwin theme) wants to display pseudo-transparency. If I try to enable it and I click OK, when I check back, transparency is still not on... it's annoying. I want proper pseudo-transparency. Anyone?
[08:59] <Alzi2> (That one)
[08:59] <ironfroggy> ok i have done that but i get the same error when i try to get lilo to use it
[08:59] <intelikey> Alzi2 fraid knot
[08:59] <Alzi2> intelikey: Aww... well, I tried.
[08:59] <intelikey> Alzi2 cli forte
[08:59] <itstaff> hi all do you know how to disable a script from starting at boot time
[09:00] <intelikey> sorry
[09:00] <intelikey> itstaff update-rc.d
[09:00] <intelikey> man that ^
[09:00] <intelikey> basicly remove the symlink for the runlevel dir that is starting it.
[09:01] <Alzi2> intelikey: cli forte>?
[09:01] <ironfroggy> OMG my desktop is booting up for the first time in a freaking month. i feel light headed and i think my heart is skipping a few beats!
[09:01] <intelikey> Alzi2 as in gui is not my strong point
[09:01] <Alzi2> ironfroggy: Behave.
[09:01] <Alzi2> intelikey: Ah, okay... i have both worlds on my side =)
[09:01] <ironfroggy> Alzi2: ?
[09:02] <Alzi2> ironfroggy: Command-line and graphical :P
[09:02] <intelikey> ironfroggy yep you got a kernel loaded that could do what bios could not.
[09:03] <intelikey> ironfroggy we'll have to change you nick to "floppy_boot"
[09:03] <ironfroggy> hey whatever works
[09:03] <Chris7mas> hi
[09:04] <Chris7mas> what package should i install to be able to play flac files with amarok?
[09:04] <Chris7mas> i'm using kubuntu 6.06 and amarok 1.4.4
[09:04] <intelikey> ironfroggy     hdparm -g /dev/hda      and compare with bios
[09:05] <Alzi2> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html
[09:05] <Alzi2> Chris7mas: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html
[09:05] <Chris7mas> ok thanks
[09:05] <unix_infidel> hmm, this is odd.
[09:06] <Alzi2> no pron
[09:06] <Alzi2> prob*
[09:06] <Alzi2> lol
[09:06] <unix_infidel> i cant use alt+num on irssi in vmware with the right altkey
[09:07] <intelikey> unix_infidel linux in general.  [right alt]  != [left alt] 
[09:07] <unix_infidel> intelikey: hmm...
[09:07] <unix_infidel> i'm usually able to use that keybind without any problems.
[09:08] <intelikey> unix_infidel i use lots of consoles   L-alt+f1 == tty1    R-alt+f1 == tty13    it may be doing simular in your vmware.
[09:09] <Chris7mas> it doesn't work Alzi2
[09:09] <unix_lappy> intelikey: it's not alt+f0-9
[09:09] <unix_lappy> its alt+num(0-9)
[09:09] <Alzi2> Chris7mas: go to www.ubuntuforums.org and search for 'flac'. If that doesn't help you, go to the Ubuntu wiki and search for 'flac'
[09:10] <intelikey> i know  but the point is  r-alt != l-alt    cause  f1 = f1    duh.
[09:13] <wonderboy> is somebody who have instaler of dcgui?
[09:13] <intelikey> here in this console  in bx  if i press l-alt+1 i get "-:- SWAP: Window 1 is not hidden!"    but R-alt+1 i get""   nothing.....   r-alt+2 "@"   l-alt+2 "-:- SWAP: No such window: 2"    and so on....
[09:13] <wonderboy> i can't find it
[09:13] <intelikey> wonderboy it's in universe
[09:13] <intelikey> !repos
[09:13] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:14] <intelikey> !universe
[09:14] <wonderboy> in univers?
[09:14] <intelikey> read the link ^
[09:14] <ironfroggy> intelikey: what if my bios doesnt display the geometry its using?
[09:14] <wonderboy> i'm from romania
[09:14] <wonderboy> what link
[09:14] <wonderboy> ?
[09:14] <j_> what is the moodbar thing in Amarok?
[09:14] <intelikey> ironfroggy that makes it harder to trubble shoot
[09:15] <j_> anyone tried it?
[09:15] <intelikey> wonderboy  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:15] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, http://dcgui.berlios.de/index.php
[09:15] <itstaff> intelikey, thanks for the help
[09:15] <wonderboy> k
[09:15] <intelikey> itstaff np
[09:15] <wonderboy> and what i download from here
[09:16] <kruemeltee> its called DCGui
[09:16] <intelikey> wonderboy you use the package manager
[09:16] <wonderboy> Is my first time whan i use kuntubu
[09:16] <wonderboy> i don't know what u mean
[09:17] <kruemeltee> wonderboy ... try the following
[09:17] <intelikey> but first read the link   "URL"   "web page"     it tells you how to enable the universe repository.
[09:17] <kruemeltee> sudo apt-get install dcgui
[09:17] <black_13_> what happend to xorgcfg?
[09:17] <intelikey> kruemeltee help him enable universe then tell him that.
[09:17] <wonderboy> pls help me
[09:18] <intelikey> black_13_ that's in another distor
[09:18] <kruemeltee> okay, intelikey
[09:18] <intelikey> distro
[09:18] <black_13_> which?
[09:18] <wonderboy> i see here a Download, but say someting about Stable and CVS
[09:18] <intelikey> idk black_13_
[09:19] <black_13_> idk?
[09:19] <intelikey> black_13_ the command you want is   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:19] <intelikey> idk=i don't know
[09:19] <black_13_> the command hasnt produced a wokring xorg.config
[09:20] <wonderboy> is somebody who wnat to help me?
[09:20] <black_13_> xorg.conf
[09:20] <intelikey> then you haven't answered the questions correctly.
[09:20] <kruemeltee> wonderboy ... what version of kubuntu do you have? edgy eft?
[09:20] <wonderboy> I don't know
[09:20] <kruemeltee> kubuntu 6.06 (Dapper) or 6.10 (edgy eft)
[09:20] <wonderboy> version 6.06 LTS
[09:21] <kruemeltee> okay ...
[09:21] <black_13_> you know the old xorgcfg worked great
[09:21] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, go on http://schimana.net/ubuntu-sourceslist/
[09:21] <black_13_> what about all that open source freedom?
[09:21] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, there you'll find a file called sources.list
[09:22] <wonderboy> k
[09:22] <intelikey> black_13_ things like 'use kernel frame buffering'  say no.    and on the monitor section don't select simple   set it up right.   even go to monitorworld.com and get you crt's specs if you have to
[09:22] <kruemeltee> (you have to use the dapper dake sources.list) ...
[09:22] <intelikey> black_13_ and also user vesa driver     say no.
[09:22] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, use a terminal ... logon as root ... (sudo su ... password)
[09:23] <wonderboy> and how i do that
[09:23] <j_> soo, anyone have any idea about that Moodbar thing?
[09:23] <intelikey> black_13_ if you answer the questions correctly it will work.
[09:23] <||arifaX> Hi, I setup my machine for dual screen with xinerama. now x always starts with 1280x1024 instead of 1400x1050. I can change it to 1400 but will not stay. Any ideas? Intel 945 (i915resolution)
[09:23] <j_> what is it, what does it do?
[09:23] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list and replace it with the file you find on the web site
[09:23] <black_13_> the i keep getting screens found but none have a usable configuration
[09:23] <ironfroggy> what do i need to install to mount cifs volumes?
[09:23] <kruemeltee> okay ... step by step
[09:23] <kruemeltee> please open a terminal wonderboy
[09:24] <j_> !moodbar
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moodbar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <intelikey> black_13_ you have that freedom.  install XFree86 is you like.   but don't expect much help here if you are not using "kubuntu" defaults....
[09:24] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, now type "sudo su"
[09:24] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, after that you have to enter the root password
[09:24] <wonderboy> wait
[09:24] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, now you are logged in as root ...
[09:25] <intelikey> black_13_ what kind of display you got ?
[09:25] <wonderboy> i can't fint etc/apt/soureces.list
[09:25] <intelikey> black_13_ crt or lcd ?
[09:25] <black_13_> lcd
[09:26] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, okay ... within the root console please type "updatedb" and wait
[09:26] <intelikey> kruemeltee slocate   yuch....
[09:26] <black_13_> the problem is that this computer is a dell pizza box it has a built in video i replace that with an aftermarket pci ati video card
[09:27] <intelikey> yeah  ati.....
[09:27] <kruemeltee> intelikey, slocate? i just use locate (after updatedb) ... or is this wrong?
[09:27] <wonderboy> man...
[09:27] <intelikey> kruemeltee same thing
[09:27] <wonderboy> is hard
[09:27] <j_> moodbar colors your mp3s
[09:27] <j_> how useless
[09:27] <wonderboy> were is root console?
[09:27] <kruemeltee> intelikey, that means, slocate is the same like first running updatedb and finally locate?
[09:28] <wonderboy> in menu
[09:28] <wonderboy> ?
[09:28] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, just open a console ...
[09:28] <black_13_> i keep getting Readeon no valid modes present and Screen(s) found, but none have usable configuraion
[09:28] <intelikey> kruemeltee yes and same database too.   just a different parsor  maybe... not even sure locate isn't a symlink to slocate
[09:28] <black_13_> and i had xorg working on this computer
[09:29] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, similiar to terminal ... if you got a terminal/console open please tell me
[09:30] <wonderboy> man, plese tell me were is this, i just worked with windows until now
[09:30] <intelikey> black_13_ why not pastebin the xorg.conf  let me see if i notice the problem
[09:30] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, do you use KDE or GNOME?
[09:30] <wonderboy> >
[09:30] <wonderboy> ?
[09:30] <black_13_> sure
[09:30] <j_> wonderboy, hit the menu button  then System -> Konsole
[09:30] <black_13_> ill have to move it around
[09:31] <wonderboy> k
[09:31] <wonderboy> is kde
[09:32] <wonderboy> k
[09:32] <wonderboy> next
[09:32] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, type "sudo su"
[09:32] <wonderboy> i prin terminal?
[09:32] <hyper_ch> how can I make an ISO file from a cd wie k3b?
[09:32] <wonderboy> sorry
[09:32] <intelikey> in konsole   sudo -i
[09:32] <Jucato> kruemeltee: "sudo -i" is the preferred way
[09:33] <wonderboy> i give him Use a different terminal program?
[09:33] <intelikey> kruemeltee if you must use both at least add "-"     sudo su -      so it will be real root  not root using users env.
[09:34] <wonderboy> an i write sudo su
[09:34] <wonderboy> ?
[09:34] <dipesh> hyper_ch: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Burning_ISOs_in_Linux_K3B
[09:34] <wonderboy> and then?
[09:34] <kruemeltee> intelikey, I never find out that using "sudo su" openes a root account with users env. ...
[09:35] <dipesh> hyper_ch: btw one of the first results if you search for "k3b iso" with a earchengine like e.g. google...
[09:35] <hyper_ch> dipesh: I have a CD and want to make an ISO... not vice versa
[09:35] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, enter ... then you have to enter the root password
[09:36] <hyper_ch> making a cd from an iso is simple... but I just can't find an option "make cd copy" and "save to "disk" instead of "burn cd"
[09:36] <wonderboy> there i write?
[09:36] <dipesh> hyper_ch: ah, guess I miss-read the question then :)
[09:36] <black_13_> intelisense http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/4hnKHx30.html
[09:36] <naught101> what the best ftpclient for kubuntu? usually use gftp, but it keeps crashing...
[09:36] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, your root password you entered on installing kubuntu
[09:36] <intelikey> nick completion.... :)
[09:37] <wonderboy> I have there terminal, I pres use a different terminal program an d i write sudo su
[09:37] <wonderboy> like this?
[09:37] <kruemeltee> if you enter "sudo su" you may get the prompt "password?" ... so you have to enter the system-root-password you normally set on installing Kubuntu ...
[09:37] <j_> anyone here do vector graphics with linux?
[09:37] <wonderboy> and were i write the root password
[09:38] <dipesh> hyper_ch: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CD_Burning#Making_an_iso-image_from_an_existing_cd ... don't know how it works with k3b :-/
[09:38] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, if you dont get the prompt "password?" there may be something like "root@yourmachine >"
[09:38] <wonderboy> iand
[09:38] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, if so, you don't have to enter the root password ...
[09:39] <wonderboy> k
[09:39] <nrdb> newbie question, how do I print (i.e on paper) the output of a terminal command ? where do I pipe it ?
[09:39] <wonderboy> next
[09:39] <j_> there are at least 5 different vector graphics proggies in the repositories
[09:39] <intelikey> black_13_ line 98 99 that doesn't look like lcd settings...  mine is crt so maybe some one else can confirm.
[09:39] <dipesh> black_13_: intelikey: why not just boot from a kubuntu-livecd and copy over the xorg.conf ?
[09:40] <kruemeltee> less /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:40] <intelikey> dipesh he can  but isn't that vesa ?
[09:40] <hyper_ch> sorry, dropped out
[09:40] <intelikey> being lcd it may work just as well,  idk
[09:40] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, if you get a output so you can read your current "sources.list"
[09:41] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, now go on the website I've told you ...
[09:41] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, with the help of your browser
[09:41] <wonderboy> wait
[09:41] <intelikey> dipesh do you have lcd ?
[09:42] <dipesh> intelikey: doesn't kubuntu's hw-detection should use the matching driver + generate the matching xorg.conf? at least it was working for me fine that way on other systems.
[09:42] <wonderboy> were is this less /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:42] <dipesh> y, let me check my xorg.conf :)
[09:43] <intelikey> dipesh http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/4hnKHx30.html <--- that's his'n
[09:43] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, just type "less /etc/apt/sources.list" at the command line ... then press enter so you max get the output of the file "sources.list" ... if so, everything is okay
[09:43] <wonderboy> i don't know wre to type that
[09:44] <wonderboy> were is that command line?
[09:44] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, at the command line within the console ... or the terminal
[09:44] <Jucato> wonderboy: K Menu -> System -> Konsole
[09:44] <wonderboy> k there
[09:45] <black_13_> intelikey so whats the deal
[09:45] <intelikey> black_13_ sec. dipesh is comparing notes too.
[09:45] <wonderboy> wait a secon because I havekontubu in romanian and is not perfect translated
[09:46] <kruemeltee> okay ...
[09:46] <Jucato> I wonder..
[09:46] <Jucato> !ro
[09:46] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro.
[09:46] <Jucato> is that romanian?
[09:46] <wonderboy> yes
[09:46] <wonderboy> why?
[09:46] <wonderboy> u are from romania?
[09:46] <Jucato> you might want to check out if some people are there who could help you, too
[09:46] <Jucato> nope, I'm not
[09:47] <wonderboy> k
[09:47] <kruemeltee> Jucato, :-)
[09:47] <hyper_ch> anonye know how to create an ISO from a cd?
[09:47] <Jucato> just in case you're having problems with English
[09:47] <wonderboy> i know
[09:47] <dipesh> intelikey: sorry, seems I've no backup of my old xorg.conf with the crt-settings... only the new one with tft :-/
[09:47] <wonderboy> i don't write so good at all
[09:47] <wonderboy> but u understand
[09:48] <Jucato> no problem. your english is pretty understandable too
[09:48] <wonderboy> !
[09:48] <wonderboy> k
[09:48] <intelikey> dipesh what you got on vert and horiz  for that lcd ?
[09:48] <dipesh> 09:40:03 < dipesh >  hyper_ch: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CD_Burning#Making_an_iso-image_from_an_existing_cd ... don't know how it works with k3b :-/
[09:48] <wonderboy> were is that command line
[09:48] <nrdb> where do I pipe the stdout of a program for it to print (on paper) ?
[09:49] <Jucato> wonderboy: it's called Konsole
[09:49] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, yeah, your english is pretty well ... the command line is the line at the console/terminal
[09:49] <guglielf> wonderboy: Alt-F2 --> konsole
[09:49] <wonderboy> at the default Applications?
[09:49] <dipesh> intelikey: http://rafb.net/paste/results/UgXUQ518.html
[09:49] <hyper_ch> dipesh thx
[09:49] <intelikey> nrdb depends on the printer  lpr  maybe
[09:49] <wonderboy> k
[09:49] <wonderboy> is open
[09:50] <kruemeltee> okay, at this line you have to enter "less /etc/apt/sources.list" ... thats a command ... every command you have to activate with "ENTER"
[09:50] <nrdb> intelikey: thats it thanks.
[09:51] <wonderboy> unknown
[09:51] <kruemeltee> "Return" is the same like "Enter"
[09:52] <satempler> how come it takes so long to transfer files back from a USB 2.0 drive over a USB 2.0 connection I am only getting around 1Mb/s
[09:52] <wonderboy> k
[09:52] <wonderboy> next
[09:52] <satempler> before I was getting 12Mb/s to the drive
[09:52] <kruemeltee> what happens if you type "less /etc/apt/sources.list" and press Return?
[09:52] <Jucato> all hail jono! :)
[09:52] <satempler> resoring 17GBs of music
[09:53] <jono> hey
[09:53] <wonderboy> i pressed Enter
[09:53] <dipesh> satempler: propably only usb1 is activate/used or you have one of those buggy usb2-cards like I had a while ago
[09:53] <wonderboy> it is closed
[09:53] <kruemeltee> closed?
[09:53] <wonderboy> !!!
[09:53] <satempler> dipesh: no it's interneal laptop card
[09:53] <musya> Please check out www.musya.net and join to be a part of this site, if not please leave a message in the forum for as how to change this site to a better one. Our IRC is #musya
[09:53] <wonderboy> alose
[09:53] <wonderboy> close
[09:54] <kruemeltee> ... I'm confused
[09:54] <wonderboy> i try it again
[09:54] <kruemeltee> okay
[09:54] <satempler> my ehci_hdc driver is loaded
[09:54] <j_> is there a way to make adept remember my password for maybe like 15 minutes?
[09:54] <satempler> thats usb 2.0
[09:54] <j_> I hate punching it in all the time
[09:54] <satempler> kdesu that needs the password
[09:54] <wonderboy> i writed and now i press Enter
[09:54] <wonderboy> ok?
[09:55] <satempler> not adept
[09:55] <kruemeltee> yes
[09:55] <satempler> there is probly a kdesu conf file some where
[09:55] <wonderboy> i must give him to execut in terminal?
[09:55] <satempler> don't know
[09:55] <j_> satempler, I'll try
[09:56] <kruemeltee> to execute the command at the terminal you just have to press Return ...
[09:56] <wonderboy> yup
[09:56] <j_> btw, is there a better search facility than the built-in KDE thing?
[09:56] <kruemeltee> and what's happening?
[09:56] <kruemeltee> closed again?
[09:56] <j_> one that indexes maybe
[09:56] <wonderboy> noup
[09:56] <black_13_> intelikey ?
[09:56] <kruemeltee> what else?
[09:56] <kruemeltee> you got an output, right?
[09:57] <kruemeltee> this should be your file "sources.list" ...
[09:57] <dipesh> satempler: then it's a good question... I guess you also checked syslog/dmesg that usb2 is actualy used?
[09:57] <wonderboy> is a new window
[09:57] <wonderboy> black
[09:57] <kruemeltee> no ... its the same window but with different text, right?
[09:58] <wonderboy> i thinck so
[09:58] <satempler> ok
[09:58] <wonderboy> now...
[09:58] <kruemeltee> yea ... press "q" and so you quit ... if so you have to be at the original terminal
[09:59] <intelikey> black_13_ test that.
[09:59] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, one line after your typed ccommand "less ..."
[09:59] <londo4> Hallo everyone
[09:59] <intelikey> black_13_  i make no promices.
[09:59] <j_> where are the conf files stored usually?
[09:59] <black_13_> could you email it to me
[09:59] <dipesh> j_: beagle does indexing and has with kerry also a nice KDE-ui, but it also slows down everything (that's at least my experience).
[10:00] <intelikey> neither do i spell it correctly  :)
[10:00] <wonderboy> i pressed q and is empty
[10:00] <j_> dipesh, aha
[10:00] <intelikey> j_ /etc
[10:00] <dipesh> j_: in /etc and in ~/.kde/*
[10:00] <j_> intelikey, tnks
[10:00] <kruemeltee> empty ?!? not the previous screen where you typed "less /etc/apt/sources.list"?
[10:00] <black_13_> intelikey i didnt get it
[10:01] <wonderboy> yes
[10:01] <intelikey> oh yeah you might have meant local not global j_   and home.
[10:01] <wonderboy> but is black
[10:01] <kruemeltee> yeah, thats right ...
[10:01] <intelikey> black_13_ transfer completed... find ~/ -name xorg.conf
[10:01] <kruemeltee> now go on the web browser
[10:01] <wonderboy> now i write again "les..." in the konsole
[10:02] <kruemeltee> you dont have to
[10:02] <black_13_> this is an xp computer we are talking on
[10:02] <black_13_> could you email it to me?
[10:02] <intelikey> black_13_ oh.... hehe
[10:02] <kruemeltee> go on the web browser
[10:02] <wonderboy> and
[10:02] <black_13_> intelikey jjosburn@gmail.com
[10:02] <kruemeltee> go on http://schimana.net/ubuntu-sourceslist/
[10:02] <intelikey> let me just pastebin it.   errrr no you'll get M$ markup...
[10:03] <intelikey> ok.
[10:03] <zorglu_> q. recently my download of ubuntu iso via bittorrent went to 1.2mbyte/s to 300kbyte/s, any body experiences the same thing ?
[10:03] <wonderboy> next
[10:03] <satempler> dipesh: ok here is the rub kernel	[17184038.044000]  usb 3-1: not running at top speed; connect to a high speed hub
[10:03] <kruemeltee> on top you see an example "sourcs.list", right?
[10:04] <wonderboy> yes
[10:04] <satempler> how can I make it go faster
[10:04] <kruemeltee> okay, copy the whole "file" ... I mean ... copy the code of the sources.list you see there
[10:04] <zorglu_> satempler: connect to a high speed hub ?
[10:05] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, (mark with your mouse and press Crtl+C)
[10:05] <satempler> or for that matter not use ohci_hcd and use a ehci_hcd
[10:05] <wonderboy> k
[10:05] <satempler> zorglu_: My laptop has USB 2.0 going to the drive
[10:05] <zorglu_> satempler: ok my knowledge stop here :)
[10:05] <satempler> zorglu_: ok
[10:05] <kruemeltee> now go to the K-Menu ... Office ... KWrite
[10:05] <kruemeltee> (i hope you already have installed)
[10:06] <black_13_> intelikey paste bin is find i cant ftp it to the server
[10:06] <wonderboy> on database office?
[10:06] <wildchild> !subrip
[10:07] <kruemeltee> database? no ... you have to open a text-editor ... but not open office ... a normal text editor
[10:07] <intelikey> black_13_ but it would collect M$ markup from the pastebin... i'll email it.  as attached but it will take a second.    "i didn't have any email app installed"
[10:07] <kruemeltee> what text-editors do you have?
[10:07] <intelikey> do bow
[10:07] <intelikey> now
[10:07] <wonderboy> i don't know
[10:07] <dipesh> satempler: maybe just try to unload the usb1 module? modprobe ehci_hcd && modprobe -r ohci_hcd
[10:08] <intelikey> kate
[10:08] <satempler> ehci_hcd is loaded
[10:08] <dipesh> satempler: y, that was just to be sure ;)
[10:08] <satempler> so just modprobe -r ohci_hcd
[10:08] <wonderboy> were i see it
[10:08] <intelikey> kruemeltee it's default kubuntu   kate will be there
[10:08] <satempler> ok
[10:08] <intelikey> and nano   but we want to stay away from cli i think...
[10:08] <dipesh> satempler: and tail -f /var/log/message to look what the kernel says...
[10:09] <dipesh> or tail -n 100 /var/log/message
[10:09] <intelikey> oooops lagging....
[10:09] <intelikey> sorry
[10:10] <satempler> new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd
[10:10] <wonderboy> iOffice editor?
[10:10] <satempler> not running at top speed; connect to a high speed hub
[10:10] <satempler> configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[10:10] <j_> wooohoo, no work today! thank god for broken source cds!
[10:11] <wonderboy> kruemeltee
[10:11] <dipesh> satempler: what kernel-version? and what usb-hw (lspic -vvvvv | grep USB)?
[10:11] <dipesh> lspci
[10:12] <musya> anyone know of any good apps like dreamweaver only for linux?
[10:12] <intelikey> black_13_ should be in the box.
[10:12] <satempler> one sec
[10:12] <dipesh> musya: quanta
[10:12] <wonderboy> kruemeltee u are stil here
[10:12] <dipesh> musya: but I fear it's better then dreamwaver... ;)
[10:13] <musya> dipesh: does it work for kubuntu?
[10:13] <dipesh> musya: for saure
[10:13] <dipesh> sure
[10:13] <satempler> dipesh: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34928/
[10:14] <black_13_> thanks what xorgcfg totally be removed from xorg or just from ubuntu
[10:14] <phen> hi
[10:14] <phen> i got a question on installing tv tuner
[10:14] <phen> can anyone help
[10:16] <kruemel_tee> wonderboy, sorry ... my internetconnection was disturbed
[10:17] <intelikey> black_13_ from debian i think and that's ubuntu's upstream source  so   ....
[10:17] <wonderboy> k
[10:17] <wonderboy> so
[10:17] <kruemel_tee> wonderboy, what text editors do you have?
[10:17] <phen_> Can anyone help me with installing my tv-tuner in Kubuntu?
[10:18] <kruemel_tee> wonderboy, do you have emacs?
[10:18] <intelikey> !tv
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <wonderboy> office org. word procesor!!!
[10:18] <wonderboy> this
[10:18] <intelikey> kate.
[10:18] <intelikey> kate  or nano.
[10:18] <kruemel_tee> this one won't work ... you need a texteditor that can save pure ascii
[10:19] <kruemel_tee> yeah, kate or nano would work
[10:19] <j_> anyone tried kat?
[10:19] <j_> theres also doodle
[10:19] <j_> now I'm not sure which to install'
[10:19] <j_> does kat index?
[10:19] <intelikey> oo can do that.  but it's not default.   in fact i don't know an editor that can't save ascii
[10:19] <wonderboy> or kontact
[10:19] <phen_> 02:0a.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
[10:20] <wonderboy> i don't think
[10:20] <zorglu_> q. recently my download of ubuntu iso via bittorrent went to 1.2mbyte/s to 300kbyte/s, any body experiences the same thing ?
[10:20] <ylz_> exit
[10:20] <ylz_> exit
[10:20] <ylz_> exit
[10:20] <black_13_> intelikey same problem no change
[10:20] <wonderboy> kruemeltee
[10:20] <kruemel_tee> intelikey, yeah, but if I have to teach him how OO save pure ascii I'm still sitting here tomorrow
[10:21] <kruemel_tee> wonderboy, no ... kontact is wrong ... do you have kate?
[10:21] <intelikey> kruemel_tee yeah :)    kate'll do it.
[10:21] <dipesh> satempler: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_Gentoo_on_an_AMD_Turion64-based_Compaq_Presario_V2000_Series_Notebook says something about bad usb2-support with SB400... but other pages are saying, that it should work fine. hmmm...
[10:22] <satempler> ok because that is the model of laptop that I have
[10:22] <intelikey> black_13_ swap the commented out vert and horiz   for the ones not commented and see what it gives.
[10:22] <wonderboy> I have Office presentation,Spreadseet and word processor
[10:22] <kruemel_tee> nothing out of office ...
[10:23] <wonderboy> kate
[10:23] <wonderboy> ??
[10:23] <kruemel_tee> yeah
[10:23] <kruemel_tee> you have kate wonderboy ?
[10:23] <wonderboy> i don't think
[10:23] <kruemel_tee> okay ... go to the console
[10:23] <wonderboy> yuo
[10:23] <wonderboy> i have
[10:23] <kruemel_tee> please do exact what I tell you
[10:24] <kruemel_tee> pwd (Return)
[10:24] <dipesh> satempler: so, what kernel-version you are using?
[10:24] <satempler> 2.6.17-10-generic
[10:24] <wonderboy> what console
[10:24] <satempler> should I upgrade
[10:24] <wonderboy> black one
[10:25] <kruemel_tee> yeah
[10:25] <satempler> !kernel
[10:25] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:25] <kruemel_tee> wonderboy, If I talk about a console I mean the black thing, okay?
[10:25] <wonderboy> k
[10:25] <dipesh> satempler: well, that's already a quit actual version...
[10:26] <kruemel_tee> okay ... within the black thing (console) please type "pwd" and press RETURN
[10:26] <satempler> I thought 2.6.18 somthing was the latest
[10:26] <dipesh> satempler: 2.6.19 since today
[10:26] <satempler> oh well there ya go
[10:26] <dipesh> :)
[10:26] <satempler> bug fixes a many
[10:27] <kruemel_tee> wonderboy, if you do so, you get your current working directory
[10:27] <intelikey> ahhh times up, i'm went.     " tre' bon' chance, mo chapo' "  :)
[10:27] <dipesh> satempler: y. but if I seek for your laptop-model I also found a few pages saying that usb2 works fine without probs... so, hmmm...
[10:27] <kruemel_tee> should be /home/youName
[10:27] <leonardo> good morning
[10:27] <satempler> what systems
[10:28] <satempler> It has to have ATI South Bridge
[10:28] <black_13_> intelikey what about the trick of taking a live cd?
[10:28] <dipesh> satempler: "Compaq Presario V2000"
[10:28] <satempler> Compaq Presario V2608WM
[10:29] <dipesh> satempler: or are there different types/releases of it out?
[10:29] <satempler> there isn't any others I know of that have installed Linux
[10:29] <satempler> can't go back to windows I riped my XP key off the bottom
[10:29] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, have you finished?
[10:29] <leonardo> hi everybody
[10:30] <wonderboy> so I type pwd
[10:30] <kruemeltee> okay ... and then press "RETURN"
[10:30] <wonderboy> were
[10:30] <wonderboy> i can't type
[10:30] <kruemeltee> oh lord ...
[10:30] <Duracraft> Hows everyone
[10:31] <leonardo> when i try to install java packages using adept manager, i get a "preparing..." message... and nothing else happens...
[10:31] <wonderboy> i pressed q and now i have a black screen
[10:31] <kruemeltee> press q like a told you before ... to quit the black screen and return to the line where you entered "less /etc/apt/sources.list" before
[10:31] <wonderboy> and i can't write pwd
[10:31] <phen_> leo-hit details and tab and enter?
[10:31] <leonardo> ahh
[10:31] <phen_> u should already jhave java
[10:32] <phen_> i think
[10:32] <kruemeltee> okay ... so close the terminal (with the x on the right top of the terminal window) ... and open a new one
[10:32] <leonardo> thanks phen
[10:32] <phen_> np
[10:32] <leonardo> it was a "ok" at details, tks
[10:32] <wonderboy> k
[10:32] <wonderboy> next
[10:32] <kruemeltee> now type "pwd" and press Enter
[10:33] <kruemeltee> (sorry ... return)
[10:33] <wonderboy> i pressed
[10:33] <wonderboy> return
[10:33] <kruemeltee> whats happening?
[10:33] <wonderboy> e pressed enter
[10:33] <MenZa> !enter
[10:33] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[10:33] <dipesh> satempler: well, if it's a new one it may not be that unlikly that a new kernel could fix it... do you compile them by your own? if yes, it may also an idea to turn on usb-verbosity (take care, it may produce lots of mb till gb of logfiles :) ... iirc Alan Stern and the usb-crew is always happy to get such logs into there hands for hw that doesn't actualy work.
[10:34] <sungam> The sound on my computer keeps disappearing. I'm not sure, but I think it may be related to hitting the mute button on my keyboard. It doesn't seem to reactivate itself afterwards. /window new hide
[10:34] <dipesh> work as expected
[10:34] <kruemeltee> there has to be a new line where you got the information, in which directory you are
[10:34] <wonderboy> i have a black screen and  i have ?home/wonderboy write
[10:34] <sungam> ops :o
[10:34] <satempler> dipesh: ok and ya I have to compile it my self
[10:34] <kruemeltee> yea, right
[10:34] <satempler> not looking forward to it
[10:34] <satempler> takes a long time
[10:35] <kruemeltee> now type "vi" and press return (you'll get a black window again)
[10:35] <wonderboy> next
[10:35] <kruemeltee> within the black window you press the key "i" ...
[10:36] <wonderboy> insert
[10:36] <kruemeltee> right
[10:36] <wonderboy> then
[10:36] <wonderboy> ...
[10:36] <kruemeltee> now press the middle button of your mouse
[10:37] <eilker> what is symlink ? is it exactly equalevent to shortcut in windows ?
[10:37] <kruemeltee> (the text you previously marked at the browser) should appear
[10:37] <wonderboy> yes
[10:37] <wonderboy> nest
[10:37] <kruemeltee> okay, now press Escape
[10:37] <wonderboy> next
[10:38] <leonardo> eilker, is equivalent?
[10:38] <dipesh> satempler: depends... e.g. on my system it takes <5 minutes since my kernel .config is already pretty much perfect configured for this system. Also it's a nice way to learn more about the internals :) ... but if you don't like to go that deep yet, then I would suggest to either ask at one of those large forums for more tips or to to continue to seek via your fav search-engine for more details about kernel+your laptop-model. Normaly probl
[10:38] <kruemeltee> (the cursor have to change his look) ...
[10:38] <eilker> yes leonardo
[10:38] <kruemeltee> now type ":w sources.list" and press return
[10:40] <dipesh> satempler: it's also (very) possible that I just oversaw a way to get more infos or to even solve the prob... btw, a forum also has the advantage that other users that search via there fav search-engine may see your message then...
[10:40] <kruemeltee> at the bottom of the screen a line appears, saying something like "sources.list written"
[10:40] <kruemeltee> now type ":q" and press enter
[10:40] <wonderboy> next
[10:40] <dipesh> oh, did I miss a vi-introduction? :)
[10:41] <kruemeltee> have you everything done? (:w sources.list) and (:q) ?!?
[10:41] <kruemeltee> dipesh, lol ... no
[10:41] <wonderboy> i think so
[10:42] <eilker> !symlink
[10:42] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:42] <wonderboy> i pressed esc
[10:42] <kruemeltee> okay, now type ":w sources.list" and press enter
[10:44] <wonderboy> command not found
[10:44] <phen_> need help installing tvtuner : 02:0a.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01) if anyone knows
[10:45] <kruemeltee> ???
[10:45] <kruemeltee> you may forgot the ":"
[10:45] <wonderboy> :w sources.list
[10:45] <wonderboy> right!?
[10:45] <kruemeltee> yeah
[10:46] <wonderboy> not found
[10:46] <kruemeltee> try ":w! sources.list"
[10:47] <wonderboy> noup
[10:47] <wonderboy> same
[10:47] <kruemeltee> *snief* ... I couldnt believe
[10:47] <kruemeltee> try just ":w"
[10:47] <black_13_> well vnc works at least
[10:48] <wonderboy> same
[10:48] <kruemeltee> try escape twice
[10:48] <dipesh> oh, oh... vi is closed and him is back at the prompt I guess...
[10:48] <kruemeltee> you think so? dipesh
[10:49] <dipesh> kruemeltee: "command not found" sounds so...
[10:49] <kruemeltee> *SNIEF*
[10:49] <dipesh> propably the changes where already written...
[10:49] <wonderboy> man
[10:50] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, try ls and search on the output for "sources.list"
[10:50] <kruemeltee> sorry, type "ls" and return
[10:50] <discoloda> hello
[10:50] <kruemeltee> now search for sources.list
[10:51] <wonderboy> is or Ls
[10:51] <kruemeltee> LS
[10:51] <discoloda> is there a reason the liveCD would not load X properly? (i get as far as a blue screen)
[10:52] <wonderboy> and now
[10:52] <uwo> hi all. finally enabled sleep on thinkpad in edgy by modiying sleep.sh - suspend now works if i go through power manager - suspend - or by "sudo sleep.sh" in terminal. how can i bind this to FN-4 - the problem could be that this runs sleep.sh as normal user, which doesn't work even in terminal
[10:52] <wonderboy> :w sources .list or sources.list
[10:52] <kruemeltee> you found sources.list on the appearing output?
[10:52] <kruemeltee> sources.list
[10:52] <dipesh> discoloda: nah, linux does not have blue screens of dead cause they are patented by MS :) ... so, a black screen?
[10:52] <kruemeltee> no no non ... back
[10:52] <kruemeltee> not :w ... I think you already did that
[10:52] <wonderboy> i pressed lx
[10:53] <wonderboy> k
[10:53] <kruemeltee> not lx ... ls
[10:53] <wonderboy> andsorry
[10:53] <wonderboy> ls
[10:53] <wonderboy> j
[10:53] <wonderboy> k
[10:53] <wonderboy> now
[10:53] <kruemeltee> at the appearing output you search for "sources.list"
[10:54] <wonderboy> no such file or directory
[10:54] <kruemeltee> ???
[10:54] <dipesh> hehe
[10:54] <wonderboy> Desktop  Examples  mldonkey-distrib-2.8.2
[10:55] <kruemeltee> dipesh, what are you loughing about?
[10:55] <wonderboy> this is what apear after i write ls
[10:55] <wonderboy> and then i write sources.list
[10:55] <wonderboy> right
[10:55] <alexicon> meh
[10:56] <kruemeltee> no ...
[10:56] <wonderboy> !!!!!!
[10:56] <kruemeltee> normally if you type ls you get the files included in yout directory you currently are ...
[10:56] <dipesh> kruemeltee: I guess the situation (that is the human kind of communication in general and the problems cause of different kind of interpretations and protocols betrween individuals :)
[10:56] <kruemeltee> dipesh, I think so too
[10:58] <wonderboy> u told me to write ls
[10:58] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, I think its better you join the channel #kubuntu-ro and try it there ... but you have to learn how to work with linux ... go on http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3888 and download a english version of selflinux
[10:59] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, if you don't know how to handle a console so I'm not able to help you ... it just takes too long ...
[10:59] <kruemeltee> wonderboy, sorry ... but try to find some "linux learning sites" written in rumain ...
[11:00] <wonderboy> k
[11:00] <kruemeltee> :-)
[11:00] <uwo> could someone tell me why sleep.sh works when run as root, but not as normal user? How can i change permission?
[11:00] <wonderboy> thanks man and sorry
[11:00] <kruemeltee> no problem ... you're welcome
[11:00] <dipesh> isn't that much to learn btw... just some basic things like how to change directories, how to display the content of a directory, how to edit a file, etc.
[11:01] <kruemeltee> right ...
[11:01] <pyru> Hello, I am curious, i have just installed kubuntu on my laptop (toshiba satellite p100) and my sound works but is lower then usual, all settings are turned up
[11:01] <pyru> anyone help me out with this
[11:01] <dipesh> that also helps a lot to understand all those tutorials that are around and provides at the end a lot of less frustration cause things then start to work just like to like to have them working ;)
[11:01] <kruemeltee> so long ... I have to work now ... :-)
[11:02] <wonderboy> I k
[11:02] <wonderboy> ok
[11:02] <kruemeltee> good luck wonderboy
[11:03] <leonardo> how do i fix disk block problems on boot
[11:03] <leonardo> ?
[11:04] <leonardo> there is a notice that they exist, but are not being fixed
[11:04] <leonardo> is there any boot command or option to try?
[11:05] <||arifaX> leonardo: maybe boot with a live cd and do some disk checks, but dunno the commands
[11:06] <Pyru> Hello, I am curious, i have just installed kubuntu on my laptop (toshiba satellite p100) and my sound works but is lower then usual, all settings are turned up
[11:06] <||arifaX> Pyru: do you have a manual volume adjustment on your notebook? maybe this is set to low volume?
[11:07] <leonardo> arifax, is there a check on a instaled kubuntu? or just live cd?
[11:07] <Pyru> yes, it's max
[11:07] <Pyru> the volume dial on my notebook is turned all the way up.
[11:08] <dipesh> leonardo: the prog is called "fsck" and it should be also installed at kubuntu... but it is not recommed to fsck a partition that is mounted...
[11:08] <dipesh> ...that's why a livecd is a good way
[11:09] <leonardo> ah ok dipesh
[11:09] <dipesh> it's btw a console-app
[11:09] <leonardo> yes, i ll try with live cd
[11:10] <dipesh> just fsck<tab><tab> to see what fsck's do exist and man fsck to get some more infos about the prog ;)
[11:10] <leonardo> yes, exist
[11:12] <dipesh> Pyru: alt+f2 and then start "kmix" ... iirc the settings are remembered and maybe your e.g. master is very low...
[11:13] <Jucato> anyone here with any experience with bluetooths and cellphones?
[11:13] <Jucato> in Kubuntu, of course
[11:13] <Voker57> Where are headers for kde stored?
[11:13] <Voker57> and general kde dir too
[11:13] <Voker57> who knows?
[11:14] <Jucato> $KDEDIR in Kubuntu = /usr
[11:14] <Jucato> afaik
[11:15] <abattoir> Jucato: ME, ME ;)
[11:15] <Jucato> ah abattoir! the man I should have asked :)
[11:15] <Jucato> I got me a bluetooth dongle!!!
[11:15] <Pyru> dipesh: still same thing
[11:15] <Pyru> odd
[11:15] <abattoir> Jucato: cool
[11:15] <Jucato> abattoir: here's the thing, I can send to and from the phone. but... that's just it :)
[11:16] <abattoir> Jucato: what else do you want to do?
[11:16] <abattoir> Jucato: tried bluetooth:/ ?
[11:16] <dipesh> Pyru: you also checked e.g. "pcm" ?
[11:16] <Jucato> I want my phone to control the whole PC :P
[11:16] <dipesh> at kmix
[11:16] <abattoir> Jucato: get yourself bemused for s60
[11:16] <dipesh> checked as in put it to the highest value
[11:16] <Jucato> and leave the world of Linux... heheh j/k
[11:16] <abattoir> Jucato: kbemusedsrv already  comes installed w/ kdebluetooth
[11:17] <Jucato> abattoir: how do I browse through the phone's filesystem?
[11:17] <Pyru> dipesh: all volume settings are all on max
[11:17] <Pyru> maybe choose pcm as master?
[11:17] <abattoir> Jucato: hmm, i haven't really needed/tried that one yet...
[11:18] <shinobi2> any tools to convert hex 0x5A into integer or character?
[11:18] <Jucato> ah
[11:18] <Jucato> I need that one the most :)
[11:18] <shinobi2> i am looking for simple command line
[11:18] <abattoir> Jucato: http://www.wahlau.org/linux_bluetooth_and_series_60
[11:19] <dipesh> Pyru: hmmm... eh, no. I guess if you try e.g. the xmms audioplayer it's also low?
[11:19] <Jucato> kool
[11:19] <Voker57> ___________Where are kde headers stored?_____________
[11:19] <Jucato> oh here's the thing... how do I search for bluetooth devices on my PC? I mean, I could search for devices on my phone, and my phone sees the PC. but not vice versa
[11:20] <Pyru> dipesh: yes
[11:20] <Pyru> i mean the sound works but on windows its 3 x louder
[11:20] <Pyru> seems very dimm
[11:20] <Voker57> does somebody know where are kde headers stored?
[11:20] <Voker57> in kubuntu
[11:21] <SortOfThing>  /usr/include/kde ?
[11:22] <Voker57> nos uch dir
[11:22] <Voker57> no such dir
[11:22] <dipesh> Pyru: well, while I am not that familar with sound on linux it may an idea to "apt-get install alsa-utils" and run the alsamixer to look if anything there is wrong (for the case you are using alsa?)... else I don't really know :-(
[11:23] <Jucato> Voker57: I think you need to install "kde-devel"?
[11:23] <Voker57> Jucato: oh
[11:23] <alakdan> hello, I am currently using firefox on edgy. Is there a way to move the close "x" button on the right rather than an 'x' button on every tabs?
[11:24] <Jucato> abattoir: how did you search for the address of your phone? (hidd --search doesn't yield anything)
[11:25] <abattoir> Jucato: try 'hcitool scan'
[11:26] <Jucato> that did it. the wiki page must either be wrong or outdated
[11:26] <abattoir> Jucato: ubuntu wiki?
[11:26] <Jucato> yep
[11:26] <Jucato> !bluetooth | abattoir
[11:26] <ubotu> abattoir: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:27] <Voker57> Jucato: can i download headers only?
[11:27] <alakdan> this is way cool on firefox! about:config
[11:28] <Jucato> um that I don't know Voker57
[11:28] <Jucato> ?
[11:33] <fjellrev1> I'm running KSmoothdock but it will only show on one specific desktop,anyone know of anyway yo apply it to all desktops ?
[11:42] <eilker> !dmesg
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmesg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <stani> hello?
[11:52] <Duracraft> Holla
[11:53] <stani> I was wondering if it was possible to autostart an application minimized (.kde/autostart shortcut)?
[11:53] <dhq> i need help i have a avi file i want it to read in my dvd player how do i make it a vcd
[12:00] <sven> hello all
[12:00] <sven> can somebody help me please?
[12:00] <sven> where can ig get gpg?
[12:01] <eilker> gpg ?
[12:01] <sven> yes
[12:04] <eilker> !gpg > sven
[12:04] <j_> I need to write a little script that inputs lines from a text file to an application, how do I go about this?
[12:05] <Duracraft> is it a video game
[12:05] <j_> on windows I would have no problems
[12:05] <TheOddOne> help question: has anybody gotten a winfast tv2000 remote working with kdelirc in edgy ?
[12:05] <j_> !scripting
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scripting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <j_> ohnoes
[12:06] <j_> is there an equivalent to vbscrito in ubuntu?
[12:06] <j_> *vscript
[12:06] <j_> *vbcript
[12:06] <j_> *vbscript
[12:06] <j_> damn
[12:06] <j_> bad typo day
[12:08] <afm\colossus> vbscript? wtf?
[12:08] <afm\colossus> i don't think there's a single scripting language as limited and brain-damaged as vbscript for unix-style OSs
[12:09] <j_> yeah, that was just an example
[12:09] <j_> I normally use btewin on windows
[12:09] <j_> so, how do I script this thing?
[12:09] <afm\colossus> there are numerous extremely powerfulls cripting languages available for GNU/Linux
[12:09] <afm\colossus> check Ruby, Python, Perl, Tcl/Tk, your shell, ...
[12:10] <j_> Tcl/TK?
[12:12] <j_> found it "Linux Shell Scripting for Idiots"
[12:16] <stani> j_: Try Python, which also works on windows. Ask your question on the comp.lang.python mailing list, probably you'll get answers very soon. I guess you can use python subprocess for that.
[12:17] <j_> stani, thanks for the suggestion
[12:19] <DeadS0ul> hi, do any of you know how I can reinstall grub on my box, i had to reinstall windows recently
[12:19] <Jucato> !grub | DeadS0ul
[12:19] <ubotu> DeadS0ul: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:19] <j_> ha, python is pre-installed too
[12:19] <DeadS0ul> thanks
[12:20] <stani> J_: If you are looking for a good python editor, try SPE (sudo apt-get install python-wxversion spe). Python is the most popular scripting language on ubuntu.
[12:24] <eilker> i wanna install suse from dvd, i have its dvd, my pc doesnt have dvd player, but my laptop has, can i use my laptops's dvd player for my pc at booting ?
[12:29] <DeadS0ul> Jucato, grub-install hd0 keeps failing =\
[12:31] <DeadS0ul> meh i'll just do a reinstall
[12:43] <sparr> the kde printer scan dialog defaulted to scanning 127.0.0.x when i have two IPs (like all normal people), 127.0.0.1 and 192.168.0.x.  wouldnt it be more friendly to default to the non-loopback ip?
[12:49] <malic> does anyone know what could cause kubuntu desktop to respond slowly despite 3d drivers being installed?
[12:49] <malic> ala window tearing when I move them around, etc
[12:49] <malic> glx is working just fine
[12:49] <malic> glxgears works just fine
[12:50] <malic> but moving windows around is horrendously slow
[12:50] <malic> slower then when i was using the nv driver
[12:57] <[GuS] > Bonjour tout le monde
[12:57] <apokryphos> !fr
[12:57] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:59] <[A] ndy80> hi
[12:59] <[A] ndy80> a simple question: in ubuntu 6.06 if I use qt3 applications, the application theme is fine, rounded ecc... If I run qt4 application the theme is ugly! It looks like the old tcl/tk interface (for progress bar, checkbox ecc...) how can i fix this?
[01:02] <dipesh> [A] ndy80: try "qtconfig"
[01:02] <jesusr> buenas a todos
[01:03] <[A] ndy80> qtconfig-qt4
[01:03] <[A] ndy80> found!
[01:03] <[A] ndy80> thanks :)
[01:04] <dipesh> [A] ndy80: which Qt4-apps you are using btw?
[01:04] <[A] ndy80> wengophone
[01:05] <[A] ndy80> and designer-qt4
[01:05] <[A] ndy80> I'm learning c++ programming with qt4
[01:05] <SortOfThing_> good choice.
[01:06] <[A] ndy80> thanks :)
[01:06] <dipesh> y, very good choice :)
[01:06] <xsacha> :)
[01:06] <[A] ndy80> are you qt programmers?
[01:06] <SortOfThing_> some of us
[01:07] <SortOfThing_> if you want to talk to qt programmers, join #qt
[01:07] <dipesh> or #kde :)
[01:07] <[A] ndy80> yes, no problem... it was just a question :)
[01:07] <dipesh> nah, #kde-devel
[01:07] <[A] ndy80> of course on #qt they use qt :D
[01:07] <dipesh> or #scribus :)
[01:07] <SortOfThing_> or #kde-fr if you're a froggy
[01:07] <[A] ndy80> ehehe
[01:07] <[A] ndy80> no :P
[01:08] <[A] ndy80> I'm IT, not FR :P
[01:08] <drarem> how do i find out all the services that are running
[01:08] <scheuri> g'day all
[01:08] <scheuri> drarem: services or processes?
[01:09] <drarem> web servers
[01:09] <scheuri> drarem: either by using "nmap" or using "netstat"
[01:09] <dipesh> or e.g. "ps -ef|grep apache"
[01:09] <scheuri> drarem: or actually "ps" and searching for webservers such as apache
[01:09] <dipesh> heh, /me was faster :)
[01:09] <scheuri> 1 sec too slow...arrr...;)
[01:09] <scheuri> ;)
[01:11] <michaelvs> I had a botched upgrade to 6.10 last night.  Computer won't boot.  If I try the upgrade using a cd do you think it will work, or will I need to do a re-install from scratch?
[01:11] <drarem> how do i unintall something i just apt-get install ?  I tried apt-remove, apt-get uninstall
[01:11] <Hobbsee> drarem: apt-get remove
[01:11] <hastesaver> drarem, apt-get remove
[01:11] <drarem> doh
[01:11] <scheuri> michaelvs: the upgrade might have been done "correctly"...but some configs might be faulty
[01:11] <eilker> apt-get remove
[01:11] <drarem> ty
[01:12] <scheuri> drarem: I would suggest using aptitude instead of apt-get...as aptitude is a bit better when solving dependencies
[01:12] <hastesaver> drarem, you can also do "apt-get --purge remove" if you want to wipe out all traces of it :-)
[01:12] <hastesaver> scheuri, really? how so?
[01:12] <scheuri> drarem: or to make things easier: "man apt-get" and "man aptitude"
[01:13] <michaelvs> Scheuri: possibly.  It won't boot and I've had trouble with grub seeing that my boot disk is sdb1 before.  Have to remember how I've fixed this in the past...
[01:13] <scheuri> hastesaver: well, I can't say from insights as I was not writting its code...but it appears to handle complex stuff better...
[01:13] <scheuri> hastesaver: it was even suggested to use aptitude when updating from Debian Sarge (testing) when it became stable...
[01:13] <scheuri> :=
[01:14] <scheuri> michaelvs: indeed...;)...well....so what does "it does not boot" mean exactly?
[01:14] <hastesaver> scheuri, isn't aptitude just an ncurses wrapper for apt? Anyway, I've never had dependency trouble (yet?) so I wouldn't know :-)
[01:14] <scheuri> hastesaver: AFAIK it is not "just" a ncurses wrapper
[01:15] <michaelvs> I get a flash of the kubuntu graphical boot screen and if I switch to alt-f7 or whatever it says something like udevd error with depmod or something.  No other boot messages and in f1 there are no boot messages past grub
[01:15] <weedar> I have a program (Eclipse) that uses a SHIFT+CTRL+S key-combination to save all files, but when I attempt this I just open Kopete. How can I change this behaviour?
[01:17] <Jucato> weedar: in Kopete -> Settings -> Configure Global Shortcuts
[01:19] <guiden> is there programs like kazaa, bearshare for linux?
[01:19] <scheuri> guiden: gtk-gnutella
[01:20] <guiden> ok
[01:20] <scheuri> hm, I probably should not have answered that
[01:21] <naught101> I've lost my right click>"move to" and "copy to" commands...
[01:21] <naught101> anyone know how to get them back?
[01:22] <naught101> eh... they're back
[01:22] <naught101> forget it
[01:22] <scheuri> LOL
[01:22] <scheuri> thanks...;)
[01:24] <weedar> Jucato: thank you :)
[01:25] <dipesh> guiden: or even better mldonkey+kmldonkey which dioesn't only gnutella but also e.g. donkey, direct connect, kamilia, overnet, fasttrack, etc.
[01:28] <leonardo_br> hi everybody
[01:28] <leonardo_br> which directory do you install your applications?
[01:30] <apokryphos> leonardo_br: kde? In the KDE prefix (kde-config --prefix) which is /usr
[01:30] <leonardo_br> yes, kde
[01:30] <leonardo_br> do I use share or local?
[01:31] <leonardo_br> any difference?
[01:32] <apokryphos> for compiling applications /usr/local is probably better
[01:32] <leonardo_br> hum
[01:32] <apokryphos> there is, since this way you can have two applications installed -- the packaged one, and the compiled on (in /usr/local)
[01:32] <guiden> dipesh ok thanks
[01:32] <guiden> should I install them both?
[01:33] <scheuri> guiden: you may....and try them....take what suits you best
[01:34] <guiden> ok
[01:35] <leonardo_br> apokryphos, like google earth, shoud i use usr/share? or local?
[01:35] <apokryphos> google earth you could just install into your home directory even
[01:36] <apokryphos> but /usr or /usr/local is fine for Google earth, since there's no Ubuntu package for it
[01:37] <scheuri>  /opt would be probably the most consitent, right?
[01:37] <leonardo_br> is there a consense about this subject?
[01:37] <scheuri> *consistent
[01:38] <leonardo_br> can i find any information on web?
[01:38] <scheuri> leonardo_br: nope...:)...
[01:38] <leonardo_br> ahhh tks
[01:38] <guiden> dipesh, should I have the other programs install in order for the kmldonkey to work?
[01:38] <guiden> ed
[01:38] <scheuri> leonardo_br: it is merely a question of gusto...
[01:38] <hastesaver> leonardo_br, for things not from the repos, /opt, usually
[01:38] <scheuri> leonardo_br: in this case however
[01:39] <dipesh> guiden: nope. only mldonkey and kmldonkey
[01:40] <leonardo_br> but some hints are important to create my own classification
[01:40] <scheuri> leonardo_br: in this case....take /opt for all software you add yourself
[01:40] <guiden> dipesh there isn't a packed called mldonkey, is it the mldonkey-server
[01:40] <scheuri>  /opt as in "optional"
[01:41] <leonardo_br> scheuri, tks
[01:41] <apokryphos> scheuri: nope. General is /usr for packages and /usr/local for compiled
[01:41] <apokryphos> opt is of course also fine though. Doesn't entirely matter where you put it, as long as it's in path.
[01:42] <scheuri> apokryphos: okay...sorry....you are right.../opt is just "easier" explained
[01:42] <dipesh> guiden: y, take the mldonkey-server
[01:42] <apokryphos> no worries
[01:43] <dipesh> guiden: mldonkey is splittet into the core/server/mlnet which runs gui-less while e.g. KMLDonkey provides the gui.
[01:44] <michaelvs> scheuri: I got disconnected.  Not sure if you had sent me anything else besides the boot question?
[01:45] <michaelvs> Scheuri: incidentally, I just tried to boot to an earlier kernel.  I got errors for usplash, mdadm.conf, etc.  I think it isn't getting to initrd right or another disk...
[01:46] <guiden> dipesh, does the server start if I start kmldonkey?
[01:48] <leonardo_br> where symlinks are located?
[01:48] <dipesh> guiden: start KMLDonkey and let the Wizard that shows up then guide you through all questions ;)
[01:50] <scheuri> michaelvs: I am not sure if I can help you...as I am still using 6.06
[01:50] <scheuri> michaelvs: what exactly does the newer kernel say? what kind of error?
[01:51] <michaelvs> No worries.  I'm going to try another upgrade from CD, and if that doesn' t work I'll just move over my home and other imporant directories to another hard disk.
[01:52] <guiden> dipesh workfolder? is it the folder for mldonkey?
[01:54] <dipesh> guiden: as the wizard says; "this is where it stores all it's files..." ... should be "/var/lib/mldonkey/" on kubuntu
[01:55] <ubuntu> I want to set up a fully encryped system, and have read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystem but I'm wondering if I can use that for edgy?
[01:56] <ubuntu> as it says "Encrypted Root and Swap with LUKS (on Ubuntu 6.06)"
[01:57] <dipesh> guiden: btw, I recommed "External core" rather then "Managed core" since then ml will keep running even if you close kmldonkey and also it already starts even before kde is up. Also mldonkey supports http and ftp downloads what makes it a nice tool to download always the latest kubuntu-cd's (ok, torrent may better here since it's faster :)
[01:57] <dipesh> torrent is btw also supported
[01:58] <delight> !kdesvn
[01:58] <ubotu> kdesvn: subversion client with tight KDE integration. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5-1 (edgy), package size 1405 kB, installed size 3304 kB
[01:59] <dipesh> guiden: also kmldonkey comes with the mldonkey:// kio-slave, a mldonkey-kde-service and konqueror integration...
[01:59] <delight> Is there other ppls having problems with the kdesvn ?
[01:59] <delight> I'm really annoyind it's crashin konqueror all the time!
[01:59] <ubuntu> no one tried encrypting a full system here?
[02:00] <delight> Did somebody find some workaround ? Cause it does not seem that we will se a backport of  a new kdesvn on edgy anitime soon
[02:02] <delight> Did you just uninstall kdesvn or find some fix for it ? I am so annoyed with it ... can't be that we have to wait till feisty to get a working kdesvn
[02:02] <guiden> dipesh how do I find the external core?
[02:02] <delight> it was broken in dapper already
[02:03] <dipesh> guiden: you don't need to find it... kmldonkey communicates with mldonkey through a socket (that's what the address+port is for)
[02:05] <dipesh> guiden: direct access to the core is only needed if kmldonkey should manage the core for you...
[02:10] <dakota> czesc, jest tu ktos z Polski?
[02:27] <waddler> anyone know how i would create a link to another drive directory for proftpd?(/home/ftp to hdc1/music)
[02:38] <yogi> Weird happenings on Edgy w/PL2303.  It gets disconnected w/o preamble.
[02:39] <yogi> Nov 30 07:06:24 flight6 kernel: [17218608.100000]  usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 2
[02:39] <yogi> Nov 30 07:06:24 flight6 kernel: [17218608.100000]  pl2303 2-2:1.0: device disconnected
[02:39] <yogi> Nov 30 07:06:24 flight6 pppd[3726] : Hangup (SIGHUP)
[02:39] <yogi> It happens intermittently... sometimes not for many days.
[02:42] <Bulwinkle> Has anyone had problems installing mysql-server?  It isn't working for me (fresh install of edgy)
[02:42] <yogi> Seem to be lots of people herre but all are doing something else.
[02:43] <Bulwinkle> Hopefully they are all working on fixing the mysql-server package so that it works
[02:43] <yogi> ...and my PL2303 dropping problem... ;-)
[02:43] <Bulwinkle> !mysql
[02:43] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[02:43] <Bulwinkle> yogi:  can you restate your problem?
[02:44] <yogi> Bulwinkle: The kernel is dropping the PL2303 connection w/o preamble.
[02:44] <yogi> Nov 30 07:06:24 flight6 kernel: [17218608.100000]  usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 2
[02:44] <yogi> Nov 30 07:06:24 flight6 kernel: [17218608.100000]  pl2303 2-2:1.0: device disconnected
[02:44] <yogi> Nov 30 07:06:24 flight6 pppd[3726] : Hangup (SIGHUP)
[02:45] <yogi> The prob is intermittent, Bullwinkle.
[02:45] <icheyne> what is a pl2303 (I could google, but can't be bothered)
[02:45] <Jorval> Hello channel :-) i have a little problem mounting an smbfs share. i can mount the share. but then an ls -la shows: ? ? ? mnt !!! and i cant access the content. did someone know what i did wrong ???
[02:46] <Bulwinkle> !mysql-server
[02:46] <ubotu> mysql-server: mysql database server (current version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.24a-9 (edgy), package size 38 kB, installed size 68 kB
[02:46] <Bulwinkle> !mysql-server-5.0
[02:46] <ubotu> mysql-server-5.0: mysql database server binaries. In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.24a-9 (edgy), package size 24352 kB, installed size 65824 kB
[02:46] <yogi> Bulwinkle, I guess nobody can help with this one.  I think it is a module problem, actually.
[02:47] <yogi> Bulwinkle, thanks for asking, anyhow.  Have a good day. ;-)
[02:50] <Bulwinkle> can someone show me where to find the dependencies for a package?  When I try to install mysql-server it says "Dependency problems" and fails....  Isn't the whole purpose of apt-get to SOLVE dependencies?
[02:53] <schme> KDE on Edgy.  How do I get rid of the lil' bouncy thing next to the cursor when applications are loaded?
[02:53] <Jorval> @bulwinkle did you updated your reposities ?
[02:55] <xmonkey> hello
[02:55] <Bulwinkle> Jorval: yeppers....  and added a couple...  how do I flush my download cache?
[02:55] <Jucato> schme: press Alt+F2, type in "KControl". Under Appearance & Themes, look for Launch Notification
[02:56] <xmonkey> i have a ide hdd jumpered as master and a sata2 hdd on the first sata port. kubuntu installation wants to install grub "hd0". is that the ide or sata2 hdd now?
[02:57] <schme> Jucato: I got some error when I ran kcontrol.. It did start up tho, and I did change it in laung notification.  It still did the bouncy bouncy
[02:57] <Jucato> schme: did you launch it from the Run Command box (Alt+F2)?
[02:58] <schme> Jucato: Actually I launched from an xterm .. does it matter ?
[02:58] <Jucato> er I meant Launch Feedback, then change the Busy Cursor
[02:58] <Jucato> schme: no, but the error messages that you see there are not important
[02:58] <schme> Jucato: yeah. that is what I changed, meant that one :)
[02:58] <schme> Jucato: it still bounced
[02:58] <Jucato> did you click on Apply? :)
[02:58] <schme> Hehe. Yes, I did.
[02:59] <xmonkey> any idea?
[02:59] <Jucato> hm.. weird...
[02:59] <Jucato> maybe it needs a restart of KDE? (logout and login again)
[03:00] <velle> which pdf readers are You using?
[03:00] <icheyne> Bulwinkle, apt-cache unmet packagename
[03:00] <Jucato> KPDF
[03:00] <icheyne> Bulwinkle, I think :)
[03:01] <apokryphos> kpdf is default in Kubuntu, I believe.
[03:01] <schme> Jucato: Perhaps... It seems weird that session restart would be required. Oh well. I will try it next week when I have access to kubuntu again :)   Thought it might be some well known bug.. eh FEATURE. Thanks for the help though.
[03:01] <icheyne> velle, adobe
[03:01] <david> hey guys, could someone tell me how i go about adding a program to the konsole enviroment
[03:02] <icheyne> "the konsole environment" what do you mean by that?
[03:03] <comp6> heeeeej
[03:03] <david> well i've installed hla and want konsole to recognize it instead of having to type the full path to it
[03:03] <Henkiespankie> FLORIS
[03:03] <comp5> HENKIE !
[03:03] <Henkiespankie> HELEMAAL KNETTERRR
[03:03] <KL00TVI00L> knetter buis ja
[03:04] <velle> icheyne: me2 so far. I am really annoyed by the "hand mouse cursor", it is perfect for dragging the document around, but if I by accident give a single push, it both zooms in and scrolls down, i dont understand the point of that behavior. Did you think about that problem?
[03:04] <Bulwinkle> icheyne: it gives me a list of all unmets is there a way to resolve them all?
[03:04] <KL00TVI00L> NIJMEGEN NIJMEGEN NIJMEGEN NIJMEGEN NIJMEGEN NIJMEGEN NIJMEGEN NIJMEGEN NIJMEGEN NIJMEGEN NIJMEGEN NIJMEGEN NIJMEGEN NIJMEGEN NIJMEGEN NIJMEGEN
[03:04] <Henkiespankie> heej whats up you guys
[03:04] <KL00TVI00L> NIJMEGEN NIJMEGEN NIJMEGEN
[03:04] <KL00TVI00L> nec nec nec
[03:04] <KL00TVI00L> guus je bent fokking lelijk :>
[03:05] <KL00TVI00L> |>.<|
[03:05] <velle> icheyne: and another thing, i havent found a way to scroll horisonatally only using the keyboard, this annoys me too, so I thought that there had to be a better reader
[03:05] <icheyne> velle, sorry no - try kpdf - it's pretty good
[03:05] <perrin> hi,  i am having some trouble with theming KDE,  when i apply any theme, i seem to get these weird black lines every 2nd listing in Kmail and Gaim, see http://preview.tinyurl.com/yfelnu  any ideas?
[03:05] <icheyne> Bulwinkle, sudo apt-get install dependency1 dependency2 dependency3
[03:06] <Henkiespankie> so yea i was like owning those noob
[03:06] <icheyne> velle, you could try Ocular the new KDE pdf reader. I'm not sure what stage it's at yet
[03:06] <Henkiespankie> stage 6 i ve heard
[03:06] <velle> icheyne: and ive tried kpdf too, but it does not support bookmarks, and since i am actually reading books of hundreds of pages, this is really helpful feature
[03:06] <velle> icheyne: thanks, ill try it right away :)
[03:07] <Bulwinkle> icheyne: when I do apt-cache unmet mysql-server-5.0 I get the list of ALL unmet dependencies....
[03:07] <Jucato> perrin: System Settings -> Appearance -> Colors -> in the Widget Color drop-down list, select Alternate Background in Lists and set it to the same color as Standard Background.
[03:09] <icheyne> Bulwinkle, sorry I should have suggested this instead sudo apt-get build-dep mysqlserver
[03:09] <perrin> Jucato: thanks, ive changed it,  do i need to restart X or something?
[03:09] <Bulwinkle> icheyne: now its doing something :)
[03:10] <Jucato> perrin: no need, afaik
[03:11] <perrin> hmm ok,  it hasnt changed thats all
[03:13] <icheyne> velle, you can try evince and xpdf too
[03:13] <BlackBsd> does kubuntu still use all the debian packages, such as gcc 3.4.6, as opposed to 4.1?
[03:14] <david> would .bashrc be the file i need to edit to make Konsole find an application by typining its name?
[03:14] <BlackBsd> i guess i mean to ask if kubuntu is based off debian 3.1
[03:14] <perrin> Jucato: all good, restarted gaim and other programs and its fine
[03:14] <perrin> Jucato: thanks for the help
[03:14] <Jucato> np
[03:14] <Jucato> :)
[03:17] <Bulwinkle> icheyne: resolved the deps and now still no install...  uninstalled mysql-server, mysql-server-5.0- apt-get clean- now reinstalling (fingers crossed)
[03:17] <Bulwinkle> hmmmmm  mysqld fails when it tries to start
[03:18] <Jorval> i have problems mounting a win-share! after mounting i have no stats , cant access the directory. ive did: mount -t smbfs -o username=xxxxx,password=xxxxx //server/share /mnt. has someone an idea ?
[03:20] <icheyne> sorry Bulwinkle no idea
[03:20] <Jorval> ls -la says: ?---------   ? ?    ?        ?                ? mnt
[03:21] <velle> icheyne: I cant find Ocular anywhere...
[03:22] <Jucato> Okular is still beta and will be released only in KDE 4
[03:22] <Bulwinkle> mysqld just wont start: http://hashmysql.org/paste/viewentry.php?id=3048
[03:22] <[GuS] > Bulwinkle, did you checked the logs?
[03:22] <icheyne> velle, sorry Okular. I just found this article... http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/11/20/1933239&from=rss
[03:22] <[GuS] > /var/log/
[03:24] <Bulwinkle> [GuS] : http://hashmysql.org/paste/viewentry.php?id=3048
[03:24] <Jucato> Okular won't be out in stable form until KDE 4
[03:26] <icheyne> velle, okular is available for testing - http://kpdf.kde.org/okular/
[03:26] <Jucato> yes, for "testing"
[03:27] <david> does anyone know which folder the konsole configuration files are in?
[03:28] <velle> icheyne: thanks, nice article, extremely relevant for me
[03:29] <icheyne> velle, yes it's only 2 days old!
[03:32] <Bulwinkle> got it working used a package from mysql.com
[03:33] <Alter-Ego> !easysource
[03:33] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:34] <azion> Hello all, could someone help me setup a qis
[03:34] <azion> *widescreen resoliution no 6.10 please
[03:35] <abattoir> azion: which video card?
[03:35] <azion> Intel 852GME
[03:41] <azion> Can it be done abattoir?
[03:41] <abattoir> azion: oops, sorry, give me a sec
[03:42] <azion> abattoir: Take your time
[03:42] <abattoir> !fixres
[03:42] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:42] <abattoir> azion: ^^^
[03:42] <abattoir> azion: click on resolution not delivered by vbios
[03:46] <azion> Thanks trying now
[03:49] <azion> What repository is 855resolution on?
[03:49] <Dr_willis> !find 855
[03:49] <ubotu> Found: i855-crt, 915resolution
[03:49] <abattoir> !info 855resolution
[03:49] <Dr_willis> !info 915resolution
[03:49] <ubotu> Package 855resolution does not exist in any distro I know
[03:49] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[03:50] <Dr_willis> Looks like you got a name wrong. :) if it existed it would be in 'universe' it seems.
[03:50] <abattoir> hmm, i guess that wiki page is outdated
[03:50] <Dr_willis> I would think so .
[03:52] <azion> Got it, thanks
[04:01] <paitart> hi! i'm a newbie KUBUNTU user. how could i install the UBUNTU-desktop from KUBUNTU?
[04:02] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:02] <Dr_willis> :) easy eh.
[04:04] <paitart> salamat!
[04:05] <paitart> i tried that one but it gave this message: Couldn't find package ubuntu-desktop
[04:05] <Hawkwind> Setup your sources correctly
[04:05] <Hawkwind> !repos | paitart
[04:05] <ubotu> paitart: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:13] <BluesKaj> Howdy all ! :)
[04:14] <Jucato> hi
[04:19] <BluesKaj> Jucato, ya gotta check this out ...good for a morning laff , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SCJLlSf21Y&mode=user&search=
[04:28] <vado> hello
[04:30] <paitart> how do i install firefox on kubuntu?
[04:30] <LjL> paitart: sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:31] <paitart> oic
[04:31] <paitart> tnx LjL
[04:31] <cloakable> Is anyone else having problems with GMail and KMail on Edgy?
[04:32] <Jucato> none here
[04:32] <cloakable> Error: Could not connect to host pop.gmail.com
[04:32] <cloakable> But I can ping it.
[04:32] <Jucato> did you check the settings for GMail? like ports and authentication method?
[04:33] <BluesKaj> works ok for me
[04:34] <cloakable> Jucato: Worked before :( Port 995, SSL?
[04:34] <Jucato> 995, SSL, Clear text
[04:35] <Dheeraj_k> cloakable: r u behind the proxy?
[04:35] <cloakable> Jucato: Yup, that's my settings.
[04:35] <delight> !sldapd
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sldapd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <Jucato> hm... works here for me
[04:35] <cloakable> Dheeraj_k: 'the proxy'?
[04:35] <delight> !slapd
[04:35] <ubotu> slapd: OpenLDAP server (slapd). In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.26-5ubuntu3.1 (edgy), package size 879 kB, installed size 2432 kB
[04:36] <Dheeraj_k> ping pop.gmail.com
[04:36] <cloakable> PING gmail-pop.l.google.com (66.249.93.109) 56(84) bytes of data.
[04:36] <cloakable> 64 bytes from 66.249.93.109: icmp_seq=1 ttl=241 time=36.8 ms
[04:36] <cloakable> 64 bytes from 66.249.93.109: icmp_seq=2 ttl=241 time=34.1 ms
[04:36] <cloakable> 64 bytes from 66.249.93.109: icmp_seq=3 ttl=241 time=35.9 ms
[04:36] <cloakable> --- gmail-pop.l.google.com ping statistics ---
[04:36] <cloakable> 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2001ms
[04:36] <cloakable> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 34.152/35.631/36.827/1.131 m
[04:36] <LjL> !paste
[04:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:38] <Dheeraj_k> change pop.gmail.com to 66.249.93.109 and than try
[04:39] <cloakable> Nothing. Effing edgy.
[04:40] <cloakable> Could not connect to host again.
[04:40] <cloakable> Wait a second...
[04:41] <Dheeraj_k> r u using firewall?
[04:42] <cloakable> Yeah, I had port 995 blocked.
[04:43] <Jucato> :P
[04:43] <Dheeraj_k> thats the problem
[04:44] <cloakable> Well, yeah.
[04:44] <cloakable> I've unblocked it before you pointed that out, but thanks :)
[04:46] <Dheeraj_k> allow KMail to use ssl (995) port
[04:47] <Alter-Ego> is there a reason i should not enable backports
[04:47] <cloakable> No
[04:48] <Alter-Ego> !easysource
[04:48] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:48] <trappist> Alter-Ego: if you're a big stickler for stability.
[04:48] <trappist> Alter-Ego: but if you were that, you'd probably be running debian :)
[04:48] <cloakable> Dheeraj_k: Yeah :) I did that about 5 mins before you said :P
[04:48] <Alter-Ego> heh, edgy is unstable to begin with
[04:48] <cloakable> Indeed
[04:53] <Bulwinkle> can someone tell me why I am getting a Transaction failed: cannot lock /var/mail/(USER) when I try to get my mail in kmail?
[04:56] <trappist> Bulwinkle: sounds like postfix or procmail or somebody's locking it, which is appropriate.  your mail should be spooled in /var/mail but delivered to (and read from, by kmail) your home dir
[04:56] <londo4> hallo, how can I  use this command deb?
[04:57] <cloakable> londo4: What are you trying to do?
[04:58] <londo4> sorry, open the I mean /etc/sources.list
[04:58] <cloakable> Um, I don't get your grammar, sorry.
[04:59] <londo4> wich command can I use to open the /etc/sources.list?
[04:59] <trappist> londo4: you mean /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:59] <londo4> yes
[05:00] <cloakable> londo4: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:00] <Jucato> cloakable: kdesu please
[05:00] <Jucato> !kdesu
[05:00] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:00] <cloakable> Oh.
[05:00] <cloakable> I use sudo
[05:00] <Dheeraj_k> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:01] <londo4> cloakable: thank man
[05:02] <Bulwinkle> trappist: huh?  kmail is reading it from /var/spool/mail/(USER)....
[05:04] <trappist> Bulwinkle: you mean it's reading from /var/spool/mail but complaining about locks on /var/mail?
[05:05] <delight> !hula
[05:05] <ubotu> hula: integrated mail & calendar system with simple interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0+svn379-2.1 (edgy), package size 3081 kB, installed size 8452 kB
[05:07] <Bulwinkle> trappist: they are symlinks of each other
[05:08] <trappist> Bulwinkle: ah that makes sense then.  is your mta delivering straight to that dir?  as I was saying, all the cool guys spool to (say) /var/spool/mail, then deliver (via procmail or the like) to something like ~/Maildir
[05:08] <Bulwinkle> trappist: I'm not very cool...  I guess my mta is delivering to /var/mail/(user)
[05:09] <mmm_> is anybody from turkey
[05:10] <trappist> Bulwinkle: actually it's spooling there.  I'm recommending you do a proper delivery so your MTA and MUA aren't stepping on each other in the spool dir.
[05:10] <alteroo> Helloo
[05:10] <Bulwinkle> trappist: how do I do something cool like that?  would it be in procmail?
[05:11] <trappist> Bulwinkle: procmail is what I use.  there's some fancy newfangled thing all the kids are using these days, I forget what it's called
[05:11] <alteroo> I just did a dist-upgrade to edgy based on the instructions at kubuntu.org and now I ccan't connect to the network
[05:11] <alteroo> Is this an known issue?
[05:11] <Bulwinkle> I'm using postfix for the mta...  isn't procmail associated with sendmail?
[05:11] <Dheeraj_k> !smile | Bulwinkle:
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <trappist> Bulwinkle: no, I use postfix/procmail
[05:12] <Bulwinkle> trappist: should it do all of that if I just install procmail?
[05:12] <fdoving> Bulwinkle: you can use procmail to deliver for postfix, take a look at 'mailbox_command'
[05:13] <alteroo> Is there a way to test to see if edgy has fried my card??
[05:13] <Bulwinkle> I'm installing procmail now...  love to know what all the "kids" are using....  young whippersnappers
[05:14] <fdoving> Bulwinkle: http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#mailbox_command
[05:14] <BluesKaj> alteroo, an OS doesn't put enuff demands on yer card unledd yer running heavy duty games or such
[05:15] <BluesKaj> unless
[05:15] <alteroo> BluesKaj: Well it doesn't work anymore
[05:15] <BluesKaj> why blame edgy ? ...maybe you need new drivers for the card
[05:15] <BluesKaj> which card is it ?
[05:15] <alteroo>  I just did an upgrade rebooted and now I can't get a DHCP offer or set my card static
[05:16] <trappist> Bulwinkle: I don't know what ubuntu's default procmail config looks like, so I'm not sure.  my mailserver isn't an ubuntu box.
[05:16] <alteroo> BluesKaj: new drivers for the card I just used to dist-upgrade?
[05:16] <ubuntu> test
[05:16] <BluesKaj> some video cards require new drivers in edgy
[05:18] <alteroo> Network cards are not video cards
[05:18] <alteroo> hi kruemeltee
[05:18] <trappist> Bulwinkle: I think the new toy is called maildrop
[05:20] <Bulwinkle> ahhhh
[05:20] <BluesKaj> sorry alteroo, thought it was a video card since there are so many questions about them lately..  :(
[05:20] <trappist> Bulwinkle: yeah, just looked it up.  that's the one I was thinking of.
[05:21] <alteroo> BluesKaj: Thanks :)
[05:23] <alteroo> Is there a history of Network cards dying in Edgy?
[05:23] <BluesKaj> don't hear to many Q's about network cards ...lotsa Q's about samba and cups for network printing and access etc
[05:25] <BluesKaj> well alteroo, I have yet to see that Q...been hanging out here for just a few months , but never heard of any card dying due to an upgrade
[05:26] <alteroo> ok
[05:28] <jldomingo> alteroo: did you test if the module is loaded? What's the module of your network card?
[05:29] <jldomingo> Did you run depmod -a?
[05:29] <alteroo> nope
[05:30] <jldomingo> Do you know how modules work in linux, and how to manually setup the network?
[05:31] <paitart> ne1 here kubuntu users in manila/philippines?
[05:31] <fdoving> !ph
[05:31] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[05:32] <fdoving> :)
[05:32] <paitart> mabuhay
[05:32] <Jucato> :)
[05:32] <kai> wasup
[05:32] <Jucato> heh :P
[05:32] <trappist> somebody can't write that !ph message in tagalog?
[05:32] <Jucato> trappist: our LoCo leader didn't want to
[05:32] <trappist> I see
[05:33] <kai> Jucato: guess what, remeber that thing you was helping me with
[05:33] <trappist> Jucato: most filipinos speak english?
[05:33] <Jucato> kai: which thing?
[05:33] <paitart> is there a kubuntu newbie website?
[05:33] <kai> Jucato: the javac thing
[05:33] <Jucato> kai: ah
[05:33] <paitart> trappist: may i butt in? yes, filipinos speak english. we're the third or fourth largest english speaking nation.
[05:34] <kai> Jucato: it mercked my profile
[05:34] <trappist> paitart: thanks, didn't know that
[05:34] <Jucato> kai: javac?
[05:35] <Jucato> what exactly did I say? (I don't recall anything about javac.. coz I don't even know what it is)
[05:35] <kai> Jucato: I was tryin to put the java root in my classpath
[05:35] <Jucato> that wasn't me then
[05:35] <Jucato> because all I know about java is installing it and setting the default java to Sun
[05:35] <DaSkreech> jldomingo: Thanks :-)
[05:36] <kai> Jucato: I think I put it in wrong somewheree, I put in one spot but I had put it somewhere else and that may had screwed it up
[05:36] <kai> can you help me out with that later on? I gotta real install my system
[05:36] <kai> ....again
[05:37] <Jucato> probably, but I don't know JRE stuff
[05:37] <Jucato> I mean JDK
[05:37] <ubuntu> I am partitoning my drive before I install Edgy (I do this from the live cd), but it has gone ten minutes and the aprtioning bar says 0 percent
[05:37] <ubuntu> aprtioing means partitoning
[05:38] <kai> yea
[05:38] <ubuntu> How long should it take?
[05:38] <kai> Jucato: I'm a wanna be jaa devel and I like to write java freehand using kate
[05:38] <jldomingo> ubuntu: open a console and take a look for if there's some partition mounted (in use)
[05:39] <Jucato> kai: sorry I can't help you there... :(
[05:39] <kai> Jucato: why not, if you can set it to defualt, i think that mayb all I need to do to compile
[05:43] <snowrichard> hi
[05:44] <ubuntu> Thanks
[05:44] <ubuntu> Really sweet, install while surfing the net
[05:50] <DaSkreech> OK I'd like a recommendation
[05:50] <Jucato> O.o
[05:51] <DaSkreech> there are whole set of Python- packages which seem to have been deprecated
[05:51] <DaSkreech> should I remove them or upgrade them?
[05:52] <trappist> DaSkreech: if they're deprecated, even if you need them, their functionality is likely replaced.  I'd remove em.
[05:54] <DaSkreech> trappist: Well to be more specific they were removed from the ubuntu-minimal package so .. can I assume i don't need them?
[05:55] <trappist> DaSkreech: if nothing else depends on them, yes
[05:55] <Giangi> hi
[05:56] <DaSkreech> trappist: Is there an easy way to figure out if something depends on them?
[05:57] <trappist> DaSkreech: try to uninstall them, and see if they want to take anything else with them
[05:58] <DaSkreech> trappist: >_< It's a whole lot of them. Guess I'll do them one by one
[06:01] <lalo_> hello all
[06:01] <lalo_> can so help me............? i wanna know how to shring movies on linux
[06:01] <lalo_> is there any application as movie shrink for linux?
[06:02] <DaSkreech> !dvd
[06:02] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:02] <DaSkreech> Ahmm
[06:02] <DaSkreech> !dvdshrink
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdshrink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <trappist> !transcode
[06:02] <ubotu> transcode: Utility to encode raw video/audio streams. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0.2-0.8ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2293 kB, installed size 5424 kB
[06:03] <lalo_> but movies arent on dvd format...there are on avi or mpeg, divx format
[06:03] <trappist> !dvd::rip
[06:03] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.1-0.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 718 kB, installed size 2084 kB
[06:03] <DaSkreech> lalo_: If htey are divx they are already pretty much shrunk
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Unless you are going mp4 and I'd highly advise not to go from Divx to mp4
[06:04] <trappist> good point
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Anyone uses basket?
[06:06] <rance> is anyone using the new free vmware server in kubuntu?  I checked the package db and found vmware player, but not server.  vmware will let you download either a rpm or a tar of binaries and I was just checking if anyone had been able to make it work?
[06:06] <dgiulian> DaSkreech whats that?
[06:06] <DaSkreech> !basket
[06:06] <ubotu> basket: User-friendly way to run programs and manage links in KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-6 (edgy), package size 334 kB, installed size 1176 kB
[06:06] <DaSkreech> !basket | dgiulian
[06:07] <Jucato> I use basket, but not the version from the repos...
[06:07] <snowrichard> I installed the 6.10 dvd.  Its pretty nice.
[06:07] <DaSkreech> dgiulian: http://basket.kde.org
[06:07] <Jucato> (or I try to learn to use basket... or like it even..)
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Which version?
[06:08] <Jucato> 0.6
[06:10] <DaSkreech> Jucato: .deb?
[06:10] <snowrichard> had to switch the video driver from "nv" to "vesa" because nv freezes on my system.
[06:10] <Jucato> yes. from basket.kde.org
[06:11] <DaSkreech> Jucato: It spits nasty errors at me
[06:12] <Jucato> hm... I have no idea why it wouldn't work
[06:12] <Jucato> do you have the older version installed?
[06:13] <DaSkreech> Yes
[06:13] <DaSkreech> Give it Da boot first?
[06:13] <Jucato> not necessarily
[06:13] <Jucato> what errors do you get?
[06:14] <DaSkreech> Jucato: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/262530
[06:15] <Jucato> hm... strange errors...
[06:15] <Jucato> (meaning I haven't encountered those yet...
[06:15] <helge> Just got Efty, but my bluetooth doesnt work properly, like it did in dapper. I can send to computer but from computer to phone.
[06:15] <helge> but NOT from computer to phone
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Efty :-)
[06:17] <aluno_> alguem?
[06:17] <ermak> i am trying to install ati drivers on Kubuntu/Edgy, version 8.29.6, I have made steps described here: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[06:17] <helge> Edgy then
[06:18] <ermak> bu have this:
[06:18] <ermak> fglrxinfo
[06:18] <ermak> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[06:18] <ermak> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[06:18] <ermak> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:18] <ermak> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[06:18] <ermak> can anyone help me. please?
[06:18] <ermak> also I have this:
[06:18] <ermak> dmesg | grep fglrx
[06:18] <ermak> [17179587.364000]  fglrx: version magic '2.6.17-10-generic SMP mod_unload 586 REGPARM gcc-4.0' should be '2.6.17-10-generic SMP mod_unload 586 REGPARM gcc-4.1'
[06:18] <ermak> [17179592.028000]  fglrx: version magic '2.6.17-10-generic SMP mod_unload 586 REGPARM gcc-4.0' should be '2.6.17-10-generic SMP mod_unload 586 REGPARM gcc-4.1'
[06:18] <ermak> [17179596.028000]  fglrx: version magic '2.6.17-10-generic SMP mod_unload 586 REGPARM gcc-4.0' should be '2.6.17-10-generic SMP mod_unload 586 REGPARM gcc-4.1'
[06:18] <ermak> ?
[06:19] <DaSkreech> ermak: have you asked in #ubuntu-xgl ?
[06:19] <BluesKaj> !pastebin > ermak
[06:20] <ermak> DaSkreech: ok, I ll try there
[06:21] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: thanks
[06:21] <ermak> BluesKaj: thanks, I have not known about this service
[06:23] <DaSkreech> Something is up with Konversation :-(
[06:23] <DaSkreech> it doesn't flash when people say my name and it flashes when people don't
[06:27] <Ayabara> I just went over from ubuntu to kubuntu. what is a good image viewer in kubuntu? gwenview?
[06:27] <kai> brb
[06:28] <mohammed> hey guys , how to upgrade linux kernel om kubuntu ?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> mohammed: If you have the repos you can just apt-get install them
[06:29] <Admiral_Chicago> !seen Jucato
[06:29] <ubotu> I last saw Jucato (n=jucato@124.106.179.196) 8h 31m 10s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[06:30] <mohammed> excuse me , i'm noob to this ! but I noticed kernel version 2.6.19 is out
[06:30] <DaSkreech> mohammed: Where?
[06:31] <mohammed> http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Linux_Kernel/1144175077/1
[06:33] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: It was released yesterday
[06:33] <Hawkwind> I've got 2.6.19 built and installed here, just haven't booted to it yet
[06:33] <mohammed> yeah , kernel.org is updated
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: tell that to mohammed :)
[06:33] <Hawkwind> It was updated last night, as I built it around 8pm my time
[06:33] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: You asked where, so I told you :)
[06:33] <snowrichard> Hi Hawkwind.  Just put Kubuntu on my P4
[06:34] <Hawkwind> snowrichard: Hey there.  Welcome to the dark side :)
[06:34] <nagyv> is here someone who could help me with bluetooth? I would like to use my SonyEricsson as a remote controller, I have found a site to set up my controller (http://stefans.datenbruch.de/k750i/remote.shtml), but something is wrong. In syslog I get the following error: HID create error 2 (no such file or directory) Any ideas?
[06:34] <mohammed> so guys , what to do ?
[06:34] <DaSkreech> mohammed: Why do you need this kernel?
[06:35] <BluesKaj> Hawkwind, are there any advantages to this kernel upgrade ?
[06:35] <mohammed> I just wanna know how to do the process .. I'm learning about linux
[06:36] <DaSkreech> mohammed: Well for Kubuntu you can kick back for a few days while the system processes it and stablizes it
[06:36] <nagyv> Ayabara: some people prefer gwenview other digikam
[06:37] <mohammed> will be a configured kernel for kubuntu ?
[06:37] <DaSkreech> mohammed: correct
[06:37] <DaSkreech> mohammed: If you want to tune one specifically for yourself you can build the kernel yourself as Hawkwind has done
[06:38] <mohammed> oh , ok I'll hang around untill then .. thank you
[06:38] <Hawkwind> mohammed: I have a script and a how-to that does it all for you and builds deb packages of the kernel
[06:39] <mohammed> will apperciate this ! how can I get it ?
[06:39] <Hawkwind> mohammed: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/CompilingYourOwnKernel
[06:39] <Hawkwind> mohammed: The script is at the bottom of that wiki page
[06:40] <Ayabara> nagyv, ok. I'll stick with gwenview than :-)
[06:40] <nagyv> Ayabara: I would recommend you to try out digikam too, you can never know! :)
[06:41] <mohammed> ok , will it work for configured kubuntu kernel as well as generic linux kernel ?
[06:41] <Hawkwind> mohammed: I've used it for about 2 months.  It will allow you to use your current .config file to build the new kernel with
[06:41] <Hawkwind> mohammed: You can of course change anything you want as far as modules and things like that
[06:42] <BluesKaj> !picasa
[06:42] <ubotu> Picasa from Google can be downloaded in .deb format from: http://picasa.google.com/linux/download.html
[06:42] <mohammed> ok , thank you!
[06:43] <ottito> what's going on
[06:44] <ottito> i have just installed k in my ltp
[06:44] <ottito> need some help
[06:44] <nagyv> ottito: ask! :)
[06:44] <DaSkreech> hi tackat
[06:45] <DaSkreech> !ask
[06:45] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:45] <stani> is it possible to autostart an application as minimized (~/.kde/Autostart) or to open it in another workspace?
[06:46] <fdoving> stani: yes, use kstart
[06:46] <tackat> or dcop
[06:46] <fdoving> stani: man:/kstart in konqueror.
[06:46] <tackat> you should go for kstart though
[06:47] <fdoving> tackat: how do you do that with dcop?
[06:47] <stani> great, this is wat I really needed
[06:48] <tackat> fdoving: e.g. dcop kontact kontact-mainwindow#1 minimize
[06:48] <tackat> fdoving: dcop kontact kontact-mainwindow#1 minimize
[06:49] <tackat> fdoving: or whatever application you're using
[06:50] <tackat> That way you can almost do anything to your application you want to
[06:50] <fdoving> tackat: ok, that would only work for apps with dcop support. kstart works for all gui apps.
[06:51] <tackat> fdoving: Right. However most KDE applications do have dcop support and support for the mainwindow stuff is the most basic thing that gets always implemented
[06:51] <BluesKaj> !kernel
[06:51] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:51] <tackat> !Marble
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Marble - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <Vladdy> !don't know :D
[06:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about don't know :D - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <tackat> !sex
[06:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <LjL> !botabuse
[06:52] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[06:53] <tackat> ok, sorry to the ops then ;)
[06:53] <Vladdy> hehehhe
[06:53] <trappist> tackat: feel free to play with the bot in pmsg: /msg ubotu somethingstupid
[06:54] <BluesKaj> what ops ? :)
[06:54] <Vladdy> hehehe
[06:54] <Vladdy> they're hidden ;p
[06:54] <BluesKaj> chickens...   :)
[06:54] <Vladdy> bit high up there :D
[06:54] <fdoving> :)
[06:54] <LjL> showoffs
[06:54] <Vladdy> lol
[06:55] <Vladdy> hehe.. only ops i have is in #cross-lfs, enough for me ;p
[06:55] <BluesKaj> hiding ops ...must have peeved some ppl off
[06:56] <Vladdy> /ns set help
[06:56] <Vladdy> oeps
[06:57] <maxpax> anyone from Italy ?
[06:59] <snowrichard> -+
[06:59] <BluesKaj> !it
[06:59] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:00] <snowrichard> kklkjklhjkl;hkl;h
[07:01] <vado> Bonsoir tout le monde
[07:01] <stani> !fr
[07:01] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:04] <DexterF> hi. how's the 6.10 dvd different from the cd? what's extra?
[07:04] <outime> DexterF, a lot of packages more
[07:05] <kai> how can I remove gnome and everything associated with it?
[07:05] <kai> I want nothing to do with gnome
[07:06] <DexterF> outime: figures. base system is the same?
[07:06] <outime> kai, try with 'apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop'
[07:06] <kai> I did that
[07:06] <outime> Same, DexterF
[07:06] <DexterF> another thing: 6.10 live out of the box with beryl/aiglx?
[07:06] <trappist> kai: try debfoster
[07:06] <kai> but I wan all the applications gone as well
[07:06] <kai> trappist: whats debfoster?
[07:07] <outime> DexterF, Edgy comes with AIGLX
[07:07] <outime> but not with Beryl
[07:09] <Voker57> hi
[07:10] <kai> brb
[07:10] <outime> k
[07:10] <Kai2> Hey
[07:10] <Kai2> You
[07:10] <Kai2> >:(
[07:10] <Kai2> That guy keeps stealing my name
[07:10] <Kai2> I invite you all to shun him
[07:10] <ras_> hi, all
[07:10] <DexterF> outime: any other window manager for 3D candy?
[07:11] <outime> Compiz or Beryl are the best
[07:11] <ras_> i'm delete /var/lib/apt/lists. where i can download this file?
[07:11] <Voker57> where to get API docs for Kdevelop?
[07:12] <outime> maybe http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdevelop/ Voker57 ?
[07:12] <Voker57> outime: and as an offline manual?
[07:13] <DexterF> outime: ok: so I can boot the 6.10 live dvd and check if it works, or do I have to do some stunts to use aiglx instead of "ordinary" X?
 knok-knok
[07:13] <outime> download http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdevelop/kdevelop/kdevelop.pdf
[07:13] <Voker57> oh sorry
[07:13] <outime> DexterF, I think that you need to install Edgy to the hard drive to make modifications
[07:14] <ras_> i'm delete /var/lib/apt/lists. where i can download this file? (!)
[07:14] <DexterF> ras_: re-install the package.
 dpkg ?
[07:15] <DexterF> aptitude rather
[07:15] <nagyv> how can I check if I have support for hid devices in the kernel?
[07:21] <SlimG> can anyone help me? following command give's me error: flac -d -c input.flac | oggenc -q6 - output.ogg (flac gives following error: ERROR: Multiple files specified when using stdin)
[07:25] <trappist> SlimG: are you sure it's flac giving you that error?
[07:26] <trappist> (looks like oggenc is what's getting files on stdin)
[07:26] <Lam_> what package(s) do i install to get amarok visualations?
[07:26] <fdoving> SlimG: try to add '-o' before 'output.ogg'
[07:27] <trappist> what fdoving said
[07:27] <trappist> and put -o output.ogg before the -
[07:27] <fdoving> .. good point.
[07:28] <SlimG> hmm.. I found out oggenc is capable of decoding .flac, don't need the flac command
[07:29] <SlimG> this is my working solution: oggenc -q6 input.flac output.ogg
[07:33] <trappist> SlimG: looks a lot more effecient
[07:33] <trappist> *efficient
[07:34] <Eeyore-Jr> what is that program that drops down a term screen when pressing f12?  from the top of the screen?  starts with a k
[07:34] <outime> Eeyore-Jr, yakuake
[07:35] <Eeyore-Jr> !yakuake
[07:35] <ubotu> yakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB
[07:35] <outime> and doesn't start with a k, with a y yep
[07:35] <Eeyore-Jr> :-), yep
[07:35] <SlimG> trappist: sure did :)
[07:43] <fragrag> I have trouble installing the lame encoder, I get this
[07:43] <fragrag> fragrag@fragrag-desktop:~/lame-3.97$ sh install-sh
[07:43] <fragrag> install-sh: no input file specified.
[07:44] <crimsun> why are you not using lame from multiverse?
[07:44] <crimsun> !info lame
[07:44] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[07:45] <fragrag> Oh right, thanks. I forgot that feature
[07:46] <fragrag> !info multiverse
[07:46] <ubotu> Package multiverse does not exist in any distro I know
[07:48] <fragrag> Another newbish question.. how do I get multiverse?
[07:48] <trappist> !multiverse | fragrag
[07:48] <ubotu> fragrag: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:49] <fragrag> thanks alot
[07:51] <nagyv> !upgrade
[07:51] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[07:52] <ubuntu> hi all
[07:52] <apokryphos> hi
[07:53] <ubuntu> is somebodu who can tell me how i make the partitions for Kubuntu?
[07:53] <_kuja_> Parted, QtParted, and the partitioner on the alternate cd all work well.
[07:54] <ubuntu> i also want to opent them whit windows
[07:54] <_kuja_> Open them with windows? Well, you'll need the ext2 driver for windows to do that, which I've heard as much good about as I've heard bad
[07:54] <nagyv> hmm, which upgrade method should I choose? the official one or the one recommended by ubotu?
[07:54] <Vladdy> www.fs-driver.org :D
[07:55] <_kuja_> nagyv, if in doubt, a clean install will never steer you wrong,.
[07:56] <nagyv> _kuja_: :) actually I just thought about that, but I will miss my actual setup (I mean programs)
[07:56] <_kuja_> Ah.
[07:56] <ubuntu> listen to me pls
[07:57] <ubuntu> I have 2 partitions in windows
[07:57] <_kuja_> And, what about them?
[07:57] <ubuntu> and I want to open in kunbuntu to
[07:57] <Vladdy> that's great to know :o
[07:57] <ubuntu> and for kubunto i have 10 Gb free
[07:57] <Vladdy> ubuntu: you can just open them in kubuntu, no problems there :o
[07:58] <ubuntu> I give him manually edit?
[07:58] <Vladdy> yes
[07:58] <_kuja_> A few minutes ago it sounded like you were saying it the other way around.... but mounting them read-only in Ubuntu takes minimal effort
[07:58] <ubuntu> i can't
[07:58] <gravygoat> Hi - I have an issue with sshd where it stops accepting new connections (and doesn't send out any packets) until I log into the box at a local console.  Then it starts working again for a while.  Anyone seen this problem before?
[07:58] <nagyv> why isn't there a torrent file for the cd version?
[07:58] <ubuntu> is my first time in kubuntu
[07:59] <ubuntu> i havent work before
[07:59] <_kuja_> Just a moment, I'm looking up the appropriate wiki page(s) ubuntu
[07:59] <ubuntu> i need to formate them?
[08:00] <_kuja_> This should suit, if you want write access to the ntfs partition. It's in beta, but I've heard it works rather reliably ... https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ntfs-3g
[08:00] <_kuja_> ubuntu, to install kubuntu, if you haven't already, you'll need a partition free, do you have one?
[08:00] <ubuntu> i have
[08:00] <ubuntu> 3 Gb
[08:00] <_kuja_> 3gb ... ouch, kind of small.
[08:01] <ubuntu> and I net one  with 256 mb fre
[08:01] <ubuntu> k
[08:01] <ubuntu> who much i need
[08:01] <ubuntu> somebody told me i need just 2
[08:01] <_kuja_> 3gb will work, just you'll be very limitted on how much extra software you can install.
[08:02] <ubuntu> i have windows to on Pc
[08:02] <ubuntu> k
[08:02] <ubuntu> i give it 9 gb
[08:02] <ubuntu> k?
[08:02] <nagyv> ubuntu: but you wrote that you have 10Gb, aren't you?
[08:02] <_kuja_> You'll be able to format the free partition with the Kubuntu installer.
[08:02] <ubuntu> is good
[08:02] <unix_infidel> ubuntu: thatps more than enough.
[08:02] <_kuja_> Probably ... wait, 10gb would be good.
[08:02] <unix_infidel> ubuntu: if you want, you dont even have to physically install it, have you heard of vmware?
[08:03] <ubuntu> i understand that i need 256 mb for something
[08:03] <ubuntu> for swap
[08:03] <ubuntu> not
[08:03] <_kuja_> 256MB of RAM, probably at least that much for swap too.
[08:03] <unix_infidel> ubuntu: that depend son how much phyiscal ram you have.
[08:03] <ubuntu> not ram
[08:03] <ubuntu> hdd
[08:03] <_kuja_> 256MB of hard drive space, whatever for?
[08:03] <ubuntu> i need a small partition for linux-swap
[08:04] <_kuja_> Or a larger one if you don't have much RAM, how much RAM does your system have?
[08:04] <ubuntu> 512
[08:04] <_kuja_> 256 MB swap should be enough then, should.
[08:05] <ubuntu> k
[08:05] <ubuntu> and how i make now
[08:06] <ubuntu> for windows I have  a partition ntfs and a fat32 one
[08:06] <ubuntu> and the partition with windows
[08:06] <_kuja_> First, boot up with a Kubuntu Live CD (or other at your option). Open the program QtParted (it can be found in the system menu)
[08:07] <ubuntu> k
[08:07] <ubuntu> i've open it
[08:07] <_kuja_> In QtParted, create a new partition in the disks free space, assuming it has free, unpartitioned space. Make one partition 256MB with filesystem type Linux Swap, make the other filesystem EXT3, and it can be as much space as you feel like sparing, preferably a minimum of 2gb.
[08:08] <ubuntu> i think is k
[08:09] <n8k99> is there a way to safely revert to Dapper from Edgy without having to do a fresh install?
[08:09] <fdoving> n8k99: no.
[08:09] <ubuntu> and the other partition that i want to open it with wndows to
[08:09] <mc__> n8k99: why do you want do so ?
[08:09] <n8k99> sux
[08:09] <ubuntu> one is ntfs, and other fat32
[08:10] <ubuntu> is good
[08:10] <LjL> !downgrade
[08:10] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[08:10] <n8k99> mc_ i have issues with the sound
[08:10] <_kuja_> !pastebin
[08:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:11] <n8k99> it was completely stable on dapper - now it rarely plays for more than five minutes without completely ceasing
[08:12] <n8k99> then when it remains froozen in the background, system performance begins to dramatically detriorate after a day or two
[08:12] <ubuntu> and after i open QTParted what i do next
[08:12] <ubuntu> ?
[08:12] <_kai> whats the website for the repositores?
[08:13] <_kuja_> ubuntulog: can you show me what your filesystem table looks like now? Use this command in a terminal and it will print it out: sudo parted /dev/hda print You should probably use the pastebin. I'd just like to a good idea of what it looks like right now (assuming that you have an idea hard drive that is master on the first cable)
[08:13] <_kuja_> !universe
[08:13] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:13] <_kai> does that include the multiverse one as well
[08:14] <LjL> _kai: it explains how to enable all of them, yes
[08:14] <_kuja_> Same page for all the info, AFAIK
[08:14] <LjL> there's also
[08:14] <LjL> !easysource
[08:14] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:14] <_kai> thank u
[08:15] <ubuntu> i type that in terminal and what?
[08:15] <ubuntu> !!!
[08:15] <ubuntu> i have a black screen
[08:16] <ubuntu> in konsole i type right?
[08:16] <ubuntu> !!!!!!!!!!!
[08:16] <_kuja_> Right
[08:16] <_kuja_> type: sudo parted /dev/hda print
[08:16] <ubuntu> i have a black screen
[08:16] <_kuja_> Yep
[08:16] <ubuntu> and prnt
[08:16] <scotty_> hello
[08:16] <ubuntu> and how i send you that
[08:17] <LjL> no need to spam, ubuntu
[08:17] <_kuja_> !pastebin
[08:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:17] <ubuntu> in konsole?
[08:18] <_kuja_> yes, sudo parted /dev/hda print, in konsole
[08:18] <ubuntu> is dun that
[08:18] <ubuntu> how i send u the result
[08:18] <_kuja_> And i'm presuming it said something?
[08:18] <ubuntu> yup
[08:18] <_kuja_> Use the pastebin
[08:18] <ubuntu> how
[08:19] <ubuntu> Disk geometry for /dev/hda: 0kB - 123GB
[08:19] <_kai> I have one last question
[08:19] <ubuntu> Disk label type: msdos
[08:19] <ubuntu> Number  Start   End     Size    Type      File system  Flags
[08:19] <ubuntu> 1       32kB    16GB    16GB    primary   ntfs         boot
[08:19] <ubuntu> 2       16GB    123GB   107GB   extended               lba
[08:19] <ubuntu> 5       16GB    63GB    47GB    logical   ntfs
[08:19] <ubuntu> 6       63GB    110GB   47GB    logical   fat32
[08:19] <ubuntu> 7       110GB   110GB   271MB   logical   linux-swap
[08:19] <ubuntu> 8       110GB   123GB   13GB    logical
[08:19] <ubuntu> Information: Don't forget to update /etc/fstab, if necessary.
[08:19] <Lynoure> ubuntu: please, next time use a pastebin
[08:19] <_kai> Im trying to install opera and I get an error saying my "ar" is not in my classpath
[08:20] <ubuntu> i dont now how
[08:20] <ubuntu> :)
[08:20] <Lynoure> !pastebin | ubuntu
[08:20] <ubotu> ubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:20] <ubuntu> k
[08:20] <ubuntu> sorry
[08:21] <ubuntu> and wre i type !pastebin or were i find it?
[08:21] <_kuja_> ubuntu, it looks like you've got one filesystem left to create. You need to create an ext3 filesystem for kubuntu at the end of the disk. It says you've got 13 gig free at the end.
[08:23] <ubuntu> here in the qtparter i don't seeit
[08:23] <_vge> can i somehow make app not to ask sudo password when running kde apps?
[08:24] <ubuntu> i have one with 7.85 mb free
[08:24] <_kuja_> 8       110GB   123GB   13GB    logical
[08:24] <_kuja_> This line says you've got an unformatted 13GB partition.
[08:24] <ubuntu> there i see but here....
[08:25] <ubuntu> how u say i give a !pastebin
[08:25] <ubuntu> ?
[08:25] <_kuja_> Huh?
[08:25] <ubuntu> i can do it to qtparter?
[08:25] <ubuntu> i can do it to qtparted?
[08:25] <_kuja_> You would have QtParted format the partition, yes.
[08:26] <ubuntu> whait a second
[08:26] <_kuja_> Unless you're feeling really brave, in which case, you could use "mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda" in Konsole.
[08:26] <_kuja_> **"mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda8"
[08:26] <afm\colossus> how can i force a lvm2-logical volume to take up all remaining space in a given volume group?
[08:27] <hyper_ch> hiya, again I got a little english question: What is the difference between the "remembering self" and "rememberd self"? For me as non-native speaker there is no difference
[08:27] <_kuja_> Remembering self would mean you are doing so currently, remembered would mean you did so in the past.
[08:27] <ubuntu> now it say ;"Don't frget to update /etc/fstab, if necessary"
[08:28] <hyper_ch> _kuja_: thx for that quick anser :)
[08:28] <ubuntu> now it say ;"Don't forget to update /etc/fstab, if necessary"
[08:28] <_kuja_> no problem hyper_ch
[08:28] <_kuja_> ubuntulog: you may want to reboot after making the changes, to make sure it made them final.
[08:29] <ubuntu> i dont save them?
[08:29] <ubuntu> is dun
[08:29] <ubuntu> ?
[08:29] <_kuja_> It should be done.
[08:30] <_kuja_> Can you pastebin the results of "sudo parted /dev/hda print" again? That way we can be sure it's formatted.
[08:30] <_kuja_> Before you move on to installing.
[08:31] <ubuntu> i forgot how to pastebin
[08:31] <ubuntu> ;(
[08:31] <Homer> does JPG support transparancy?
[08:31] <_vge> no
[08:31] <ubuntu> tell me again pls
[08:31] <_kuja_> !pastebin
[08:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:34] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34987/
[08:34] <ubuntu> like this?
[08:35] <_kuja_> Yep.
[08:35] <ubuntu> what i do next
[08:36] <_kuja_> That looks right, you should be good to start the install.
[08:36] <_kuja_> Be extra careful during the partitioning step of the install to make sure it uses that partition! Partition /dev/hda8, an ext3 partition.
[08:36] <paitart> is it possible to make firefox the default browser on kubuntu 6.06? if so, how could i do it?
[08:37] <_kuja_> Whether the installer formats that or not doesn't matter, because it's empty anyway.
[08:37] <_kuja_> paitart yes
[08:37] <Vladdy-> paitart: for kde programs it can be set in control panel
[08:38] <Vladdy-> or system settings, not sure what it's called in english ;-)
[08:38] <_kuja_> paitart: go to system settings: Default Applications -> Web Browser on the left -> change it to "in the following browser" and type in firefox
[08:38] <fragrag> !youtube
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about youtube - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <fragrag> Thought that it might have the fix of no sound in youtube.. :(
[08:39] <_kuja_> fragrag, that's a flash problem, actually.
[08:39] <_kuja_> Are you using Flash 7, Flash 9b1, or Flash 9b2?
[08:39] <ubuntu> whait a second
[08:39] <ubuntu> i go in system and were?!1!
[08:40] <ubuntu> Kmenu-System..............
[08:40] <saanina__> hi
[08:40] <_kuja_> I was talking to paitart when I said that...
[08:40] <paitart> thanks _kuja_, Vladdy!
[08:40] <paitart> bye!
[08:40] <_kuja_> Anyway ubuntu, there should be an icon for install on the desktop, all you have to do is click it to start the install process
[08:40] <ubuntu> k
[08:41] <saanina> hi
[08:41] <saanina_> hi
[08:43] <ubuntu> i have here: The attempt to mount a file system with type in IDE1 master, partition #6(hda6) at media/hda6 faild.
[08:43] <DaSkreech> How do I use parted?
[08:44] <_kuja_> start it up in the konsole, and type sudo parted
[08:44] <xapient> join #ubuntu-classroom
[08:44] <DaSkreech> _kuja_: Right got that far
[08:44] <_kuja_> type help to get a list of commands...... most important ones are print to print the filesystem table
[08:44] <DaSkreech> When I select a device I don't choose a partition right?
[08:44] <DaSkreech> so /dev/hda no hda3
[08:44] <DaSkreech> not
[08:44] <_kuja_> select DEVICE for changing the device you want to partitiong (ie: /dev/hda)
[08:45] <DaSkreech> _kuja_: Not partition right?
[08:45] <_kuja_> right
[08:45] <DaSkreech> ok
[08:45] <DaSkreech> mkfs ?
[08:45] <DaSkreech> mkfs <partitionnumber> <filesystem>
[08:45] <DaSkreech> ?
[08:45] <_kuja_> mkpartfs FS-TYPE START END will create a partition with filesystem
[08:47] <DaSkreech> _kuja_: suppose I already have my partition I just want to get a new file system?
[08:47] <_kuja_> rm # will remove a partition (where number = a number, like rm 8 would remove /dev/hda8)
[08:47] <_kuja_> Then mkfs it is
[08:47] <_kuja_> you can also use mkpart if you want to make a partition and not put a filesystem on it.
[08:48] <DaSkreech> which goes mkfs <partionnumber> <FSTYPE> ?
[08:48] <DaSkreech> do I need to commit it ? cause it takes less than 3 seconds for a 200 GB Drive
[08:48] <ubuntu> _kuja I need to formate all partition?
[08:49] <_kuja_> ubuntu, no, you already have them the way you need them, if you choose that option it might erase everything you have ... I forget what you need to pick to make sure it uses your empty partition
[08:49] <ubuntu> or just ext3 and swap
[08:49] <_kuja_> Just ext3 and swap
[08:49] <ubuntu> k
[08:49] <DaSkreech> _kuja_: Is there a commit command?
[08:49] <_kuja_> DaSkreech, 3 seconds isn't bad :)
[08:49] <ubuntu> i have here: The attempt to mount a file system with type in IDE1 master, partition #6(hda6) at media/hda6 faild.
[08:50] <_kuja_> as soon as you enter the commands they're final DaSkreech
[08:50] <DaSkreech> _kuja_: so it's formatted?
[08:50] <ubuntu> i think so
[08:50] <ubuntu> i give him formate?
[08:50] <Bulwinkle> can someone give me a good document to get fetchmail working.  It is running and pulling mail (I have a /var/mail/(user) file) but I can't grab it with kmail....
[08:50] <_kuja_> DaSkreech, yes, it should be formatted, if unsure, type print to check
[08:51] <DaSkreech> _kuja_: File System says blank
[08:51] <_kuja_> ubuntu, it will likely have trouble with your ntfs partitions, you can deal with those a bit later, after the install.
[08:51] <ubuntu> k
[08:52] <_kuja_> DaSkreech, what filesystem were you using? I remember parted itself having trouble with XFS, that or Jenova may be making up my memory [/finalfantasy7reference] 
[08:52] <DaSkreech> FAT32
[08:52] <_kuja_> ouch, a Fat partition eh? Hmmmm
[08:52] <DaSkreech> In the man pages it's preinted in all caps so that's what I'm using :)
[08:52] <DaSkreech> Yeha
[08:53] <DaSkreech> I should think that's the lowest common denominator
[08:53] <_kuja_> outside of parted, try using the command mkfs.vfat
[08:53] <DaSkreech> Unless it can do NTFS :)
[08:53] <_kuja_> Write support to NTFS partitions in Linux is still somewhat experimental.
[08:53] <DaSkreech> _kuja_: Like sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/hdb1 ?
[08:53] <DaSkreech> Even if LInux made it?
[08:54] <Lam_> what's the best plugin for kubuntu to watch embedded media on websites?
[08:54] <_kuja_> That should work DaSkreech, and yeah, even if linux made it.
[08:54] <fragrag> Lam_: you mean like youtube?
[08:54] <_kuja_> Which I don't think it can anyway, ie: there's no mkfs.ntfs
[08:54] <DaSkreech> ntfs3g?
[08:54] <Lam_> fragrag: youtube uses flash. i mean like wmv, real, quicktime
[08:55] <_kuja_> Yeah, ntfs3g is still beta, but I've heard it works pretty reliably, then again I've heard of problems with it too.
[08:55] <afm\colossus> kmplayer for konqueror
[08:55] <_kuja_> Kaffeine's isn't bad, KMPlayer is better
[08:55] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :-) ok play safe for now
[08:55] <Lam_> i don't use konqueror though. i use firefox, else i would use kmplayer
[08:56] <afm\colossus> then mplayerplug-in
[08:56] <Lam_> the kaffeine plugin pops up its own player window and doesn't play from the website
[08:56] <_kuja_> Though, when it comes to regular  media playing, Kaffeine's interface blows KMPlayer away ... Hmm, I've got no idea about firefox
[08:56] <_kuja_> Maybe something like mplayer-plugin?
[08:56] <_kuja_> should be the mozilla-mplayer package
[08:56] <_vge> i use MediaPlayerConnectivity plugin for firefox
[08:56] <Lam_> mplayerplug-in has a weird problem with trying to play video files when it should have firefox prompt for a download instead, but i guess that's my only option. thanks guys
[08:59] <rexbron> Does anyone know of a good tool to switch tor on and off easily and route all traffic through tor? (like a tool program)
[08:59] <rexbron> !tor
[08:59] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.23-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[09:00] <_kuja_> Hmm, under what circumstances would it be switching it on/off?
[09:01] <rexbron> Kind of like http://business.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/26/218227&from=rss
[09:01] <rexbron> but for the entire system
[09:01] <unix_infidel> anyone happen to know the setkeymaps command that llows you to use right alt?
[09:01] <unix_infidel> in Console that is.
[09:04] <_kai> Check this out: I got all my repository stuff updated and everything, but when i try to add mp3 support and the extracodes, I always get a cannot comit changes error
[09:04] <skoke> hi, does anybody speak german? ;)
[09:04] <_kai> what could be causing that
[09:04] <afm\colossus> ja, ich
[09:05] <afm\colossus> gibt aber auch deutsche channels fuer [k] ubuntu afaik ;)
[09:06] <skoke> ehm, ok, die wren? :) Bzw. vllt. kannst du mji
[09:06] <skoke> mir auch helfen @ afm\colossus
[09:06] <yamal> !de
[09:06] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:06] <_kuja_> unix_infidel ... no idea, but I'm pretty sure if you dig in system-settings under Regional & Accessibility you'd find something for it. Not exactly the Konsole, but said functionality is probably there.
[09:06] <ubuntu> _kuja thanks
[09:07] <ubuntu> i think is working
[09:07] <_kuja_> ubuntulog: That's good news
[09:07] <ubuntu> after that i need to see if I can to open that partition whit windows
[09:07] <unix_infidel> _kuja_: this has nothing to do with X
[09:09] <_kuja_> I always play with my X key settings, unless I have _my_ keyboard ... which I actually get along with.
[09:10] <_kuja_> Of course, that drives people nuts walking up to my keyboard and realizing that the keys aren't doing the same things, ie: the caps lock doesn't work, certain keys are switched, an the like
[09:10] <Absolution> Hello, how come I can hear sound normally on Kubuntu but not in Amarok?
[09:12] <visik7> Absolution: check the audio engine
[09:12] <visik7> Absolution: set it on xine+alsa
[09:14] <_kuja_> Also check that Amarok's volume isn't muted
[09:14] <lenscape> _kuja_: also check you have suitable decoders installed
[09:15] <_kuja_> Everything I play is ogg ;) , but then again, it's not about me is it?
[09:15] <Absolution> hmm
[09:15] <Absolution> still not working
[09:16] <_kuja_> What type of file are you trying to play?
[09:16] <Absolution> radio stream
[09:16] <visik7> what protocol ?
[09:17] <lenscape> _kuja_: you're right. Wrong person :/
[09:17] <Absolution> err, no clue, I just clicked on the list of radio stations available
[09:17] <Absolution> It connects but I just can't hear anything
[09:17] <Daskreech2> Absolution: The radio streams Amarok ship with are all mp3
[09:18] <Daskreech2> do you have extracodecs ?
[09:18] <_kuja_> In which case you probably want to install the package libxine-extracodecs
[09:18] <Daskreech2> _kuja_: Ah perhaps you cn help
[09:18] <Absolution> ok I forgot about the codecs
[09:19] <_kuja_> I'm amazed that I'm actually starting to wake back up ... I actually got past that early afternoon attempt-not-fall-asleep phaze. I'm proud of myself.
[09:20] <Absolution> Oh and another question, how do you open a .deb in Kubuntu?
[09:20] <Daskreech2> Amarok says that there aren't enough radio stations in .ogg for them to consider shipping with .ogg stations
[09:21] <Daskreech2> Wanna help prove them wrong
[09:21] <Daskreech2> Absolution: aas in to see what's inside?
[09:22] <Absolution> No, like in Ubuntu, you can click a .deb and it installs automatically, but in kubuntu it just gives you an archive
[09:23] <Daskreech2> Absolution: Right clikc and you should get a Kubuntu package install menu
[09:24] <Absolution> ah ok
[09:25] <jma> Hi, when I restore a session, the restored konqueror windows magically enables the mookmark toolbark even if I had disabled it. But after I disable it again, it keeps disabled until the next session restore. Anyone else here experienced this?
[09:26] <esaym> how can i see what all files are in a directory in command line?
[09:26] <Daskreech2> esaym: ls
[09:26] <esaym> hmm
[09:26] <esaym> let me see..
[09:26] <esaym> you tha man!
[09:27] <Bulwinkle> how do I stop an application from starting each time KDE does?
[09:28] <Daskreech2> Bulwinkle: You men when you log in?
[09:28] <esaym> 'well does ls show files and directories?
[09:28] <DaSkreech> esaym: yes
[09:28] <Digital-Pioneer> Is there a command I can use to inject my CD drawer without trying to read the CD?
[09:29] <DaSkreech> As long as they are not hidden
[09:29] <Digital-Pioneer> mount will pull it in, but then tries to... Mount it.
[09:29] <DaSkreech> Digital-Pioneer: try eject -t
[09:29] <esaym> ah, cool
[09:29] <scherfa> Bulwinkle: Disable the KDE Session reactivation or try to save a session without that app
[09:29] <Digital-Pioneer> DaSkreech: Still tries to read.
[09:29] <metres> Hi guys may someone could help me with kernel compilation...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35002/
[09:29] <DaSkreech> Digital-Pioneer: Not sure then
[09:31] <_kuja_> Digital_PIoneer, how about something like "eject -t"
[09:31] <scott_> how do I get kde on ubunut...sudo something?
[09:31] <Bulwinkle> scherfa: done that...  damn thing keeps popping up....
[09:31] <apokryphos> scott_: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[09:32] <scherfa> Bulwinkle: Still a link in .kde/autostart ??
[09:32] <_kuja_> scott_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop OR kde OR kde-core, the second option being a vanilla kde with a boatload of applications, the third option being the bare essentials, and the first option being Kubuntu
[09:33] <DaSkreech> _kuja_: suggested that already
[09:33] <Bulwinkle> scherfa: all I have in there is a .directory
[09:33] <_kuja_> Well, you'd have to turn cd polling in hal off probably
[09:34] <kgx> hey. how can i start konsole maximised?
[09:34] <Digital-Pioneer> _kuja_: I'm all ears.
[09:34] <scherfa> Bulwinkle: what apokucation are you talking from ?
[09:34] <_kuja_> Digital Pioneer: sytstem settings -> notifications -> Storage Media Notifications -> Advanced
[09:34] <Bulwinkle> apokucation? que?
[09:35] <Lynoure> kgx: There is a setting section for that, but right-click and Configure Window Behaviour should take you there
[09:35] <scherfa> Bulwinkle: Sorry just eating ... application
[09:35] <jaktUp> heh
[09:35] <Bulwinkle> scherfa: it is the powernow thingy....
[09:36] <Bulwinkle> scherfa: I'm running the klaptop applet instead
[09:36] <jaktUp> k, i'm big linux n00b
[09:36] <jaktUp> whut can i use to serve files with?
[09:36] <jaktUp> like omen for windows
[09:37] <_kuja_> I've never used omen, what is it?
[09:37] <scherfa> Bulwinkle: Ahh .. and powernowd pops up a window each time you log in ...
[09:37] <jaktUp> it makes a list of the files you wanna share
[09:37] <jaktUp> omenserve
[09:37] <Digital-Pioneer> _kuja_: I see "Update file access timestamps" "Allow Executables" "Allow the SUID and SGID attribues" and "Allow device points", then three textboxes labeled "Options:", "fs_freq:", and "fs_passno:".
[09:37] <_kuja_> As far as serving files goes, you could set up an ftp server or something, if you wanted to.
[09:38] <Bulwinkle> scherfa: exactly.... in the applet tray
[09:38] <jaktUp> nah, there's gotta be a script
[09:38] <jaktUp> i dunt like ftp
[09:38] <_kuja_> Right click on a folder and go to sharing? I'm not sure how well it works ... I'm paranoid afterall.
[09:39] <Bulwinkle> and how about that darn old Korganizer reminder script!!!!  how do I keep that from showing up when I run kontact
[09:39] <_kuja_> Hmm, seems like it might only do for locat sharing though
[09:39] <_kuja_> *local
[09:40] <jaktUp> nah
[09:40] <jaktUp> i'll worry bout it after kubuntu finishes installin
[09:41] <scherfa> Bulwinkle:
[09:41] <_kuja_> So sleepy .... I need caffeine =.=
[09:41] <kgx> Lynoure: that doesn't seem to work. it seems to start off as full screen but quickly gets resized again
[09:41] <Bulwinkle> scherfa: ?
[09:41] <scherfa> Bulwinkle: Do you have a /etc/default/powernowd file ?
[09:41] <jeff_> any idea how i can get mp3 to play over network? (all K/Ubuntu net)
[09:41] <scherfa> If not ... i have no idea .. sorry
[09:42] <Bulwinkle> scherfa: nope
[09:42] <_kuja_> jeff_, would that be an nfs network, or a samba network?
[09:42] <jeff_> samba for the xbox
[09:42] <scherfa> Bulwinkle: If not ... i have no idea .. sorry
[09:42] <Bulwinkle> okay thanks!
[09:43] <sidahmed> hi
[09:43] <ironfroggy> can anyone think of a good reason that i would be able to start secondary X sessions, but when trying to switch virtual terminals to an existing X session, i get a corrupted screen and a repeatedly restarting X server?
[09:43] <jeff_> do i still have to mount the drive like with windoze?
[09:43] <_kuja_> jeff_:Couple ways you could do it. One way is to use smbfs to mount it like you would any other filesystem. Another way is to just add the samba location to the list, it should be able to do it.
[09:44] <jeff_> cool thanks
[09:44] <ironfroggy> or at least a repeatedly reseting monitor and a completely unresponsive environment (i cant even ctrl+alt+F1 to a console!)
[09:44] <_kuja_> ironfroggy, I'm almost certain that's a video driver problem.
[09:45] <_kuja_> And if you mention the letters ATI I'll be *dead* certain.
[09:45] <jaktUp> hah
[09:45] <ironfroggy> thats funny
[09:45] <snowice> where can I find packages libdvdcss and w32codecs?
[09:45] <ironfroggy> because ive had far less trouble with my ATI cards than any other manufacturer's.
[09:45] <_kuja_> The hardwares fine, but there drivers ..... ugggghhhhhhhhhhh
[09:46] <snowice> ironfroggy, did you also have problems with Matrox cards?
[09:46] <winbond> !codecs
[09:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:46] <ironfroggy> i know its possible with my card. my old gentoo installation did not have this problem, so im assuming there must be something i can do about it. i just have no idea what that could possibly be.
[09:46] <jeff_> _kuja_: adding to the list didnt help so i guesss i will have to mount again
[09:47] <ironfroggy> snowice: my matrox cards arent in any of my linux boxen.
[09:47] <winbond> why not
[09:47] <_kuja_> Seeing as you haven't mentioned what you've got yet, what card do you actually have?
[09:48] <_kuja_> jeff_ smbfs will allow you to mount the share transparently .... sudo apt-get install smbfs
[09:48] <ironfroggy> _kuja_: a basic intel chipset
[09:48] <jeff_> ya thanks
[09:48] <ironfroggy> in this particular box
[09:48] <jeff_> had to do it when the server was M$
[09:49] <winbond> why doesnt amarok play flac OOB?
[09:51] <snowice> winbond, amarok has problems with flac since the last version of xine
[09:51] <winbond> snowice: damnit , that sucks , thanks
[09:51] <snowice> winbond, it sure does!
[09:52] <winbond> snowice: what did they improve in new xine?
[09:52] <imbecile> i am trying to make an ext3 partition using qtparted because im getting a desktop and im going to use desktop as my linux machine i have formatted the drive, do i just delete the partition? any help would be appreciated
[09:52] <imbecile> err im trying to make ext3 into ntfs i mean
[09:53] <snowice> winbond, can check the whole list here http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=431057
[09:53] <_kuja_> imbecile: I don't think QtParted can make NTFS partitions
[09:54] <ironfroggy> any ideas how i can get some debug data in such situations at least?
[09:54] <jaktUp> hah
[09:54] <imbecile> _kuja_, dang... any bootable tools you can reccomend?
[09:54] <jaktUp> ntfs? holy cow
[09:54] <jaktUp> drive abuse
[09:54] <imbecile> i need to restore windows on this lappy so i can return it
[09:54] <_kuja_> imbecile: Asides from Windows, and perhaps MS-DOS, I don't know of any. (which doens't necessarily mean they aren't there)
[09:55] <jaktUp> do ya have a boot floppy?
[09:55] <ubuntu> hi! i am looking for info on best way to use kubuntu from a professional laptop (RHE3) : would like to have kubuntu ISO booting from hard disk, and yet be able to install new packages and save user data in a kubuntu-dedicated directory.
[09:55] <_kuja_> If you have the windows install disk, it can make the partition for you.
[09:56] <imbecile> _kuja_, i tried just reinstalling and its not working
[09:56] <_kuja_> Any idea why it's not working?
[09:56] <_kuja_> Any errors?
[09:57] <imbecile> nope it goes through the install and lags really bad, it gots to 0 seconds left and still has like 40% left to install
[09:58] <_kuja_> That certainly doesn't help any .... if you have another copy of the windows install disk, use it, perhaps the disk is damaged?
[09:58] <imbecile> what will happen if i delete the partition?
[09:58] <_kuja_> Oh, and before putting windows back on it so youc an return it, I'm assuming you've already deleted all of the partitions right? That will make it easier on the (rather finicky) windows installer.
[09:58] <imbecile> i just got the laptop friday
[09:58] <_kuja_> Why returning it so soon?
[09:58] <maddog39> errr i just made the switch from Ubuntu (for 1.5 years using it) to kubuntu and havent ever used KDE really, once or twice
[09:59] <imbecile> ahh ill try thAT
[09:59] <maddog39> by why the heck does adept crash OCNSTAntly
[09:59] <maddog39> Constantly*
[09:59] <imbecile> it had problems with dead pixels
[09:59] <jaktUp> 98% install w00t
[09:59] <imbecile> brand new too :/
[09:59] <_kuja_> maddog39: no idea ... never really crashes for me ... then again, I don't use it very often. Technically speaking it's a "functional alpha"
[10:00] <_kuja_> To see what I mean type apt-cache show adept in konsole for its description
[10:00] <maddog39> cshields?? isnt that referring to corey shields?
[10:00] <maddog39> of OSL
[10:00] <cshields> :)
[10:00] <cshields> you bet
[10:00] <maddog39> lol
[10:00] <maddog39> i watched ur splunk video
[10:00] <jaktUp> k, i'll be back with all my q's when i boot this kubuntu
[10:00] <maddog39> haha
[10:00] <cshields> hahaha  great.  *sigh*
[10:00] <maddog39> lol
[10:00] <_kuja_> Hm, they changed the description since dapper though
[10:01] <cshields> I've gained fans and enemies both from that stunt   :)
[10:01] <imbecile> ive figured it out i think!!!!!
[10:01] <_kuja_> What stunt?
[10:01] <imbecile> dang ive been screwing with this for 7 hours already today
[10:02] <cshields> so quick question.    just tossed ubuntu & kubuntu on to my dual g5  (gentoo's X broke and I was tired of crying over it)   but amaroK doesn't seem to let me add collection dirs outside of /media and /home
[10:02] <cshields> is there a way to get around that?
[10:02] <ZmAY> hello, when i delete files, they appear to be deleted but they are still taking place on hdd, nothing changes when i write "df", any help
[10:02] <maddog39> XMMS pwnz them all
[10:02] <maddog39> :P
[10:03] <_kuja_> cshields, edit the file /.hidden so it doesn't hide everything else. It was a bad move to do that in edgy IMO
[10:03] <cshields> hahaha   (gentoo just pulled that, too..  another reason I jumped)
[10:03] <maddog39> yea i know
[10:03] <maddog39> i just installed Kubuntu my second KDE distro ever
[10:03] <maddog39> and its frustrating
[10:03] <maddog39>  me
[10:03] <cshields> I seriously love amaroK..   want it to have my babies..   but sometimes it just crashes, and xmms always works..
[10:03] <maddog39> im normally a gnome/ubuntu user
[10:03] <maddog39> yea it does
[10:04] <DexterF> ZmAY: try sync
[10:04] <cshields> _kuja_: awesome, thanks!!   (I can see where that is helpful to keep a n00b safe from themselves..)
[10:04] <_kuja_> maddog39: kubuntu is a bit rough around the edges ... I'm pondering downloading the source now and building with full debugging and seeing if I can root some of it out actually.
[10:04] <ZmAY> just sync?
[10:04] <ZmAY> nothing happened
[10:04] <maddog39> hmm ok
[10:04] <maddog39> awsome
[10:04] <DexterF> ZmAY: now df
[10:05] <ZmAY> i did, still the same
[10:05] <imbecile> i will bbiab... thanks you guys
[10:05] <DexterF> hm. shrug.
[10:05] <dan14> hello all
[10:05] <_kuja_> cshields: oh, and don't delete it, or it will come back, which is why I specified "edit" it, as opposed to remove it
[10:05] <snowice> Hobbsee, libdar3c2a is missing in the repos, is that fixable? Kdar depends on it.
[10:05] <dan14> has anyone had any luck getting the beta nvidia drivers working with beryl?
[10:06] <cshields> _kuja_: right, I just removed /mnt  (got a cpl of, *ahem* samba mounts where the muzac sits)   ;)
[10:06] <Hobbsee> snowice: kdar doesnt actually build anymomre.
[10:06] <_kuja_> ***erm, post-beta
[10:06] <Hobbsee> snowice: not with any of the versions of kdar
[10:06] <dan14> _kuja_: how about beryl with any nvidia drivers?
[10:06] <Hobbsee> snowice: it really should be removed from the archive, i guess
[10:07] <_kuja_> dan14: haven't actually touched beryl, though i'm thinking about it.
[10:07] <dan14> _kuja_:its quite nice... i have it working with an ati laptop... i though nvidia was supposed to be easier than ati to get working
[10:08] <snowice> Hobbsee, ok thanks, in that case I just use dar from now on
[10:08] <_kuja_> dan14: they are, or rather they will be in feisty, which will have the latest nvidia drivers, which have aiglx support (as opposed to the older ones that don't), by default.
[10:08] <Hobbsee> snowice: the only thing i didnt try was getting the development kdar to build with the development dar - but i figured that was too risky
[10:09] <_kuja_> (and when I say by default, I don't mean installed in a vanilla kubuntu install, but rather that's the package that will be in the repositories)
[10:10] <snowice> Hobbsee, you're right, after all we're dealing with backups, I wouldn't wanna take any chances on that.
[10:10] <Hobbsee> snowice: exactly
[10:12] <_kuja_> The last time I gambled with my backups I lost :(
[10:15] <maddog39> holy shiz! Konquerer is like twice as fast as FF lol
[10:15] <maddog39> sry if u already knew that, like first time using KDE
[10:15] <maddog39> for me
[10:16] <cshields> it's quick..   misses a few things for some google sites though (like gmail)
[10:16] <Kr4t05> This may be irrelevant, but doesn't it have some security issues, too?
[10:17] <maddog39> which Konquerer or FF?
[10:17] <Kr4t05> Kong
[10:17] <Kr4t05> Konq*
[10:17] <maddog39> oh idk but i dont shop online ever anyway
[10:17] <scherfa> Hello is a .Net hacker here ?
[10:17] <maddog39> no
[10:17] <maddog39> except to pay my hosting bil
[10:17] <maddog39> l
[10:17] <maddog39> thats it
[10:18] <soulrider> uhm, does anyone know how i can install an additional dictionary on open office ?
[10:18] <Rumo_> maddog39:did you already open an audio cd with konqueror?
[10:18] <cshields> -shrug- everything has security issues, we just don't always know what they are (yet)..   ;)
[10:18] <maddog39> no
[10:18] <Rumo_> try it, you'll like it
[10:18] <maddog39> hmm ok
[10:18] <cshields> soulrider: is it packaged like an extension (OOo > 2.0.4 iirc)?
[10:18] <maddog39> will do right now
[10:19] <cshields> soulrider: if so, try Tools -> Package Manager
[10:19] <soulrider> _hold on, phone
[10:20] <maddog39> dang i opened the CD in knonq and it came up blank
[10:20] <maddog39> lol
[10:20] <Rumo_> strange
[10:21] <Rumo_> you should see several directorys, like 'mp3', 'ogg', 'flac', 'wav' etc.
[10:22] <maddog39> nope
[10:22] <maddog39> its blank
[10:22] <maddog39> :/
[10:22] <maddog39> i even tried refreshing
[10:22] <maddog39> this is a regular music CD i burned
[10:22] <maddog39> it doesnt have raw mp3's on it
[10:23] <Rumo_> no, but there should be virtual directories
[10:23] <maddog39> amarok is giving me errors that it cant read it either
[10:23] <maddog39> and it works fine on my CD player
[10:24] <Rumo_> ok, if you open an audio-cd which works, konqueror shows directories which are not really there
[10:24] <maddog39> ah
[10:24] <maddog39> nice
[10:24] <Rumo_> you can drag-and-drop them to a directory and it will be ripped to the appropriate format
[10:24] <maddog39> sweet
[10:25] <maddog39> how can i make the clock non-military time
[10:25] <maddog39> there's no option for it
[10:25] <soulrider> sorry, im back
[10:25] <cshields> right click it, then date/time format
[10:25] <Rumo_> your kde or your general system clock?
[10:25] <cshields> under time & dates, pull down the box for Date format
[10:26] <maddog39> the clock applet
[10:26] <maddog39> in the dock
[10:26] <maddog39> shows military time
[10:26] <maddog39> im in date & format
[10:26] <maddog39> but it doesnt help me much
[10:27] <maddog39> i want the 12 hour system not the 24 hour system
[10:27] <cshields> right.  do what I just said and it'll change
[10:27] <cshields> :)
[10:28] <maddog39> i know im in date & format
[10:28] <maddog39> but its not helping much lolk
[10:28] <cshields> you want to change your time format (not date format, sorry) from HH:MM:SS to pH:MM:SS AMPM
[10:28] <maddog39> aahh
[10:28] <maddog39> ok
[10:28] <maddog39> sweet thx
[10:28] <cshields> np
[10:29] <soulrider> can someone help me installing the spanish hunspell dictionary for open office ?
[10:29] <cshields> (a nice thing about the kicker clock is that you can have multiples..  fex, I have a UTC clock sitting next to my localtime clock)
[10:29] <cshields> soulrider: did you see my responses above?
[10:30] <soulrider> i didnt really get your first response :P
[10:30] <soulrider> and then the hpoone rang :P
[10:30] <cshields> cshields: soulrider: is it packaged like an extension (OOo > 2.0.4 iirc)?
[10:30] <outime> When KDE 4 beta comes?
[10:30] <soulrider> im not sure
[10:30] <soulrider> i just know the package is called
[10:30] <cshields> cshields: soulrider: if so, try Tools -> Package Manager
[10:30] <soulrider> hunspell-dictionary-es
[10:30] <soulrider> but i try to isntall it with apt-get
[10:31] <soulrider> and sais theres no installation candidate
[10:31] <cshields> oh.  that part is out of my league.   -shrug-
[10:33] <BetaCookies> I need an SVN client.. apt-get install svn doesnt work, what is the package naem?
[10:35] <nagyv> BetaCookies: kdesvn
[10:35] <nagyv> !svn
[10:35] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[10:36] <BetaCookies> nagyv: is it using a gui?
[10:36] <nagyv> BetaCookies: yes, and I don't really like it :)
[10:37] <BetaCookies> nagyv: yuck is there a way so i can just use it via console?
[10:37] <nagyv> BetaCookies: just I don't remember the commandline package name
[10:39] <jack_> aigh, kubuntu installed
[10:39] <jack_> but why cant i mount my other drives?
[10:40] <yahalom> how do I change the video driver that kubuntu uses, such as XV or X11
[10:40] <yahalom> ?
[10:40] <afm\colossus> in what context?
[10:40] <afm\colossus> that's no video driver, but a video output/overlay method
[10:41] <afm\colossus> what player are you using? mplayer?
[10:41] <yahalom> afm\colossus: my video doesn work, and I think its cos its not using - vo XV or X11 its using something else, I want all video to use xv
[10:41] <yahalom> mplayer I sorted out
[10:41] <yahalom> but kaffeine
[10:41] <yahalom> vlc
[10:41] <yahalom> totem
[10:41] <yahalom> non work
[10:41] <yahalom> anymore
[10:41] <afm\colossus> wtf? you installed a gazillion of players to watch videos?
[10:41] <yahalom> in mplayer I just chose XV and its fine now
[10:42] <yahalom> afm\colossus: whatever came with ubuntu
[10:42] <afm\colossus> yeah, well
[10:42] <afm\colossus> get rid of the other players
[10:42] <yahalom> except for vlc
[10:42] <afm\colossus> and get one that uses mplayer as its backend
[10:42] <yahalom> afm\colossus: man it worked till two days ago
[10:42] <yahalom> all of them
[10:43] <ebiven> Does anyone know if there is anyone keeping bleeding edge packages for (k)ubuntu?  Specifically I'm looking for a kpilot package no more than a week or two old.
[10:47] <wonderboy> hi zll
[10:47] <wonderboy> hi all
[10:50] <livingdaylight> UBUNTU ROCKS!
[10:52] <livingdaylight> kubuntu is alright
[10:54] <Gh0st75> evening, trying to find a nice newbie-friendly way to view flash and java in kubuntu. should i just flatten my 64 bit install and use 32 bit kubuntu on my 64bit amd?
[10:54] <Samuli^> How do you change the computer name eg. samuli@wanttochangethis:~
[10:55] <kai> If want to add a class to my profile, where would I put the statement?
[10:55] <kai> does it have to be witin the if-statements or what?
[10:57] <jmsadmin> hi, anyone here?
[10:58] <jmsadmin> ?
[10:58] <wonderboy> hi all
[10:58] <jmsadmin> hi
[10:58] <wonderboy> i want a dc++ for kubuntu
[10:58] <jmsadmin> cant help u there
[10:59] <wonderboy> is somebody?
[10:59] <wonderboy> who can
[10:59] <wonderboy> please
[10:59] <jmsadmin> im new to linux
[10:59] <jmsadmin> i dont know all the commands yet
[10:59] <jmsadmin> or how to get things
[11:00] <jmsadmin> so yeh, i cant help you
[11:01] <jmsadmin> asl ne1?
[11:05] <kai> whats dc++
[11:06] <neon_> test
[11:07] <kai> Im so afraid of editing my .profile
[11:07] <kai> damnit
[11:07] <unix_infidel> .profile?
[11:07] <unix_infidel> you mean .bash_profile?
[11:09] <wonderboy> is somebody who can tell me how i take an d how i install a dc++ for linux?
[11:10] <maddog39> a dc++ compiler?
[11:10] <Goofy_OS2> hiho/2
[11:10] <wonderboy> for download
[11:10] <wonderboy> i'm a beginer
[11:10] <wonderboy> pls
[11:11] <maddog39> well i wouldnt know cuz ive never used D
[11:11] <wonderboy> is somebody here who know?
[11:13] <mah> Gute Nacht.
[11:13] <sgorilla80> hi
[11:14] <maddog39> oh sweet german speakers
[11:14] <maddog39> i take german in school :)
[11:17] <mah> Oops, sorry. :)
[11:19] <dan14> has anyone ever used kbootsplash or usplash??
[11:19] <root_> I was on earlier, i f*ed up my profile, is there a way i can take out the statement i put in it?
[11:22] <eilker> this command for ubuntu, "apt-get install libx11-6 libx11-dev libxtst6 xlibs-dev xinetd wget" those packages are same for kubuntu too ?
[11:24] <wonderboy> I have a question
[11:25] <wonderboy> for kubuntu I need codecs to see a movie?
[11:25] <wonderboy> Video and sound codecs?
[11:25] <nagyv> ajjaj, I just wanted to upgrade to edgy, and while running apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal, I get the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35023/ how should I follow?
[11:26] <nagyv> !w32codecs
[11:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:26] <nagyv> !w32codecs > wonderboy
[11:27] <borisyeltsin> what is the best cd ripper?
[11:28] <TheGateKeeper> eilker, kubuntu is the same as ubuntu except that it uses KDE as the desktop instead of gnome
[11:28] <nagyv> borisyeltsin: I don't know, but I am used to use KAudioCreator
[11:29] <eilker> TheGateKeeper:ty
[11:29] <danny500> does anyone know how to find the IP address a web site is coming from?
[11:30] <TheGateKeeper> eilker, yw :-)
[11:30] <root_> can any one help? is it possiable to recover my profiile?
[11:34] <borisyeltsin> nagyv: yah, that's too simple. I need to be able to change settings. I'm trying ripperx righ tnow.
[11:34] <borisyeltsin> nagyv: thanks though
[11:35] <BetaCookies> What do I install for this: "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found."
[11:35] <nagyv> I tried to upgrade, but I get the following error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35025/ what should I do? is it a good idea to run apt-get -f install?
[11:36] <dan14> does anyone know a good dock that works with beryl?
[11:36] <fdoving> BetaCookies: install the package 'libqt3-mt-dev'
[11:37] <compilerwriter> Can anyone help a newbie swap the control and caps lock keys on his keyboard.
[11:37] <BetaCookies> fdoving: lol is it bad that i already started compiling qt? lol
[11:37] <compilerwriter> I can fine reference to some code to use, but have no frigging clue where to put it.
[11:37] <ghost07> htllo
[11:37] <ghost07> can you guys give me the URL for pastebin?
[11:37] <BetaCookies> pastebin.com
[11:37] <BetaCookies> lol
[11:37] <nagyv> !pastebin
[11:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:38] <ghost07> thanks
[11:38] <fdoving> nagyv: try, you can also try to use aptitude.. 'aptitude install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal'
[11:39] <eilker> i have p4 2.4 but my kernel is 2.6.15-23-386
[11:39] <nagyv> fdoving: I just followed your(?) recommended process, the first problem was that my harddrive get full, then I run apt-get clean, then dpkg --configure -a, and now again the 'basic' install. should I run aptitude?
[11:39] <eilker> shouldnt it be 686 ??
[11:40] <danny> hello
[11:40] <TheGateKeeper> eilker, you can install the 686 one but probable won't have much of an effect
[11:40] <fdoving> nagyv: then try 'apt-get -f install' as apt-get suggests, then start over with the apt-get commands.
[11:40] <eilker> TheGateKeeper:so ? no problem ? right ?
[11:41] <compilerwriter> Can anyone help me with key bindings.
[11:41] <TheGateKeeper> eilker, no problem, I installed the one for my athlon, didn't notice any real difference
[11:41] <nagyv> compilerwriter: what is your problem?
[11:42] <eilker> TheGateKeeper:ic,ty
[11:42] <eilker> TheGateKeeper:installing vmware server here
[11:42] <fdoving> nagyv: the problem is, that when apt-get figures out how to hande the dependencies,it downloads everything, and tries to install the packages in the correct order, for all the dependencies to resolv nicely. when you stop in the middle, and delete all the downloaded stuff, (apt-get clean), and starts again, something will go wrong. You will need to fix that with 'apt-get -f install'
[11:43] <TheGateKeeper> eilker, (k)ubuntu compile everything for the 386, everything is also modular, which tends to make it a bit slow
[11:43] <compilerwriter> nagyv I need to swap my control and Caps lock keys.  I don't quite understand what I need to do to get it done properly.
[11:43] <BetaCookies> compilerwriter: thats a good idea :P
[11:43] <eilker> TheGateKeeper: is arclinux spesific for 686 ?
[11:43] <nagyv> fdoving: thx, I just wanted to ask for an explanation :)
[11:43] <BetaCookies> eilker: its 686, yeah
[11:43] <eilker> TheGateKeeper: they say that it has good performance
[11:44] <TheGateKeeper> eilker, arch linux is
[11:44] <eilker> betacookies: do u use it ?
[11:44] <compilerwriter> I know betacookies.
[11:44] <TheGateKeeper> eilker, it's fast but you have to build it from the base system
[11:44] <nagyv> fdoving: is it normal, that the last apt-get command does not responds? I mean, I clicked enter, and get a new line, but actually nothing happens
[11:44] <dannybuntu> test
[11:44] <nagyv> compilerwriter: sorry, I can not help in that
[11:44] <TheGateKeeper> eilker, kanotix may also be quicker
[11:45] <eilker> TheGateKeeper: now installing vmware, than i am gonna try other distro 's :)
[11:45] <BetaCookies> eilker: I did, but I switched to kubuntu when I got this computer because at installation, I couldnt be arsed to do the stuff i would have to do :P
[11:45] <TheGateKeeper> eilker, cool :-)
[11:45] <fdoving> nagyv: step 6?
[11:45] <nagyv> fdoving: yes
[11:45] <eilker> betacookies: which distro is called hacker's linux ? was it arclinux ?
[11:45] <TheGateKeeper> eilker, I run kubuntu & gentoo
[11:46] <compilerwriter> I have found some reference to xmodkey, but what the hell is that and where in blazes does one put the modification.  I imagine it goes in some sort of rc file, but which one.
[11:46] <BetaCookies> eilker: hmm.. I'm not sure, sorry
[11:46] <eilker> TheGateKeeper: i wanna try debian and redhat firstly
[11:46] <fdoving> nagyv: yes, you can try 'apt-get -u dist-upgrade' to see if any packages are held back. if there are none, it'll react that way.
[11:47] <nagyv> fdoving: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35027/
[11:47] <BetaCookies> What do I install for this: "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found." I installed libqt3-mt-dev, but it hasn't helped
[11:47] <compilerwriter> Having the control key where it currently resides is really cramping my emacs usage.
[11:48] <fdoving> BetaCookies: use --prefix=/usr with ./configure
[11:48] <BetaCookies> the caps lock key is a fucking disaster -_-
[11:48] <compilerwriter> It truly is.
[11:49] <compilerwriter> So would someone please rescue a newbie and help him remap the two freakin keys.
[11:49] <fdoving> nagyv: did you start from step 4. again, after you did the apt-get clean? or did you continue from where it failed?
[11:49] <nagyv> fdoving: so this is the problem :)
[11:50] <dannybuntu> hello world
[11:51] <danny500> um, my desktop isn't loading up for my. What do I do?
[11:52] <LeeJunFan> danny500: did it ever?
[11:52] <danny500> anybody?
[11:52] <danny500> no
[11:52] <dannybuntu> hello world
[11:52] <danny500> I have Ubuntu and for some reason my desktop and icons and wallpaper isn't loading up
[11:52] <compilerwriter> hello dannybuntu
[11:52] <dannybuntu> :)
[11:53] <LeeJunFan> danny500: so this is a fresh install that's not working? does anything at all come up graphical or is it all just text on black background?
[11:54] <danny500> no this isn't a fesh install, I have been using ubuntu for like half a year now
[11:54] <danny500> the only thing that loads up is the application bar on the bottum of the screen
[11:55] <fdoving> nite.
[11:55] <LeeJunFan> danny500: and it's kubuntu? kde, not ubuntu w/ gnome?
[11:55] <dannybuntu> i love kubuntu!
[11:55] <danny500> I only have one computer and this is the one I'm talking about
[11:55] <danny500> no it's 100% Ubuntu
[11:56] <LeeJunFan> danny500: if you aren't running kde with kubuntu then you want to be in #ubuntu - this is #kubuntu for kde users.
[11:56] <danny500> whats the difference?
[11:56] <dannybuntu> danny500: the desktop environment
[11:56] <LeeJunFan> danny500: k==kde the better desktop, ubuntu comes with gnome - the other one :p
[11:56] <dannybuntu> lol
[11:57] <dannybuntu> gnome=too brown
[11:57] <LeeJunFan> I'd help but I don't know crap about gnome. I gave up on it years ago.
[11:57] <eilker> vnware server how-to says that install these "libc6-dev-amd64 lib64gcc1" but i dont use amd, do i need to install these ?
[11:57] <LeeJunFan> eilker: no
[11:58] <danny500> ok thnx
[11:58] <nagyv> fdoving: until now it seems flawless :)
[11:59] <compilerwriter> The one thing I can do in gnome easily that I still have not figured out in kde is how to swap the damned caps lock key out.
[11:59] <fdoving> nagyv: great. i can sleep then, nite. :)
[12:00] <borisyeltsin> so the cd is ripping very slowly and dma is on.. any suggestions on how to fix?
[12:02] <compilerwriter> Does anyone know how to swap the caps lock key and the left control key?
[12:03] <fdoving> compilerwriter: system settings -> regional & language -> keyboard something -> xkb - take a look there..
[12:03] <dannybuntu> what is the best icon theme in kde look.org?
[12:04] <filthgrinder> hmm
[12:04] <compilerwriter> will give that a shot fdoving
[12:04] <filthgrinder> I've got some weird problem with my Kubuntu Edgy
[12:05] <filthgrinder> When I try to install the NVIDIA glx-driver (both from apt and "manually"), everything appears to work out just fine
[12:05] <filthgrinder> but when I run glxgears, I get "Segmentation fault"
[12:05] <DekKeD> how do I make a script for batch download in wget? Links are sort of Link1, Link2, Link3... Link20, only numbers differ
[12:05] <filthgrinder> does anybody have a clue as to what the prob might be?
[12:06] <compilerwriter> FDOVING YOU ARE A SAINT.  EMACS WILL FINALLY WORK PROPERLY.
[12:07] <compilerwriter> betacookies fdoving is right one must go into keyboard and then enable xkb options and then check the correct one.
[12:07] <compilerwriter> Thank you fdoving.  Pint of Guiness Stout headed your way.
[12:10] <lupul> !mp3 converter
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 converter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <eilker> where is /tmp ?? i cant find it via konqueror
[12:10] <Zaire> anyone on here know of a good free 2 way e-mail server for ubuntu/kubuntu?
[12:11] <nagyv> how can I allow connections from bluetooth? this is the error in the syslog http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35032/
[12:11] <eilker> zaire: read server guide
[12:11] <Zaire> wow thats specific lol
[12:11] <eilker> !server
[12:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[12:11] <lupul> can anyone please tell me an mp3 converter and something like where is it for edgy?
[12:11] <nagyv> how can I set get the menu for the system settings? under ubuntu I get rid of it, but here I can not switch to the advanced view
[12:12] <nagyv> lupul: lame
[12:12] <lupul> just it? lame?
[12:12] <nagyv> lupul: or your problem is that you can not play mp3s?
[12:12] <soulrider> Hawkwind: you here ?
[12:12] <lupul> i can play them. i have xine
[12:12] <nagyv> !mp3
[12:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:12] <lupul> i need a converter to mp3. to convert audio tracks for ex
[12:13] <Zaire> k I have a server install of kubuntu right now but I need to know specifically about e-mail server packages
[12:13] <nagyv> lupul: lame is good
[12:13] <lupul> ok thanks
[12:13] <BluesKaj> kaudiocreator
[12:13] <lupul> and something close to "where is it"?
[12:14] <nagyv> lupul: in adept :)