=== glatzor [n=sebi@p5496794F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad [01:02] ddaa: buy jupiter? [01:02] hi kiko [01:03] (23:05:53) kiko: I HATE JUPITER [01:03] I had to hate something unearthly [01:03] hi SteveA [01:03] how was your date [01:14] kiko: tonight was a guys-night-out pizza, in the best italian pizza place in rotterdam. [01:15] mmmm pizza === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable207.210-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #launchpad ["Bye"] === jml [n=jml@ppp110-150.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [01:50] SteveA: Hi === belito [n=user@201.230.49.33] has joined #launchpad === belito [n=user@201.230.49.33] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@ppp110-150.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-128-96.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #launchpad === highvoltage [n=jonathan@196.1.61.12] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.1.69.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === highvoltage [n=jonathan@196.1.61.9] has joined #launchpad [06:30] Goooooooooooooooooood evening Launchpadders! [06:31] stub: I mailed you about something I missed when going through you pillar names vocabulary branch -- deactivated products/projects [06:34] jamesh: Ok. Will fix. [07:10] New bug: #73868 in launchpad-support-tracker "Can't link a support request to a specification" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73868 === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === glatzor [n=sebi@p54964CCF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad === malcc [n=malcolm@host86-135-237-55.range86-135.btcentralplus.com] has joined #launchpad === sevrin [n=sevrin@202.75.186.154] has joined #launchpad === Fujitsu [n=william@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #launchpad === jkakar [n=jkakar@204.174.36.228] has joined #launchpad === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@18.Red-88-16-32.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [09:00] morning [09:03] _o/ [09:25] Good morning carlos and danilos, I just reported bug 73875 that's needed for 1.0 [09:25] Bug 73875 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/73875 is private [09:26] let me see... [09:26] morning mpt, thanks for the bug report ;) [09:26] mpt: ok === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad [09:26] changed to Critical [09:26] I'm not sure what should go on such a page, though :-/ [09:27] apart from a list of product Translations links [09:27] mpt: is this about "start page"? [09:27] perhaps the number of languages for which each product is complete [09:28] danilos, what do you mean by "start page"? [09:28] mpt: initial page for "translations", i.e. where people interested in translations would start on? [09:29] yes [09:29] Well, /softwaretype/software/+translations should be fulfilling that role anyway [09:29] mpt: ok, I'll thing about what we want there [09:29] thanks :-) [09:30] you mean translations.launchpad.net/software/software ? [09:30] :) [09:30] uh, yeah :-) [09:30] or just translations.launchpad.net/software [09:30] yeah [09:31] PillarNames makes URLs simpler, but virtual hosting doesn't [09:31] we need to improve our traversal code to make full use of the multiple host names [09:32] well, yes [09:32] but we need to be careful about not foreclosing more specific things [09:32] such as? [09:32] such as bugs or specifications about product release series [09:33] http://blueprints.launchpad.net/productname+seriesname/specname ? [09:34] (a bit ugly, but doesn't collide) === Spads [n=spacehob@host-87-74-89-151.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #launchpad [09:39] mpt: more to the point: do you think we'd need a separate namespace for specifications on product series? [09:39] "do you mean the 'foo' spec on Launchpad 1.0 or Launchpad 1.1?" [09:40] I don't know [09:50] carlos: ping [09:51] danilos: pong [09:55] I don't think we'd want two specs with the same name for different series [09:56] I think practically, if there's a spec that has the same name for different series of a product, it describes the same thing in the context of each product series, or it's very confusing [09:56] I guess the most likely example is infestations [09:56] (though personally I think they'd be more confusing than useful, they're often discussed) [09:56] if it describes the same thing in the context of each product series, then having the same name doesn't help releive confusion [09:57] I'd recommend people use a distinct name for each one [09:57] SteveA, I'm writing to Anthony, CCing Usman, on the latest things we need from Brilliant [09:57] mpt: ok, please cc me too [09:57] Would you like to see it first, or otherwise comment? [09:58] Also, have you had any luck in updating the brilliant server? [09:58] if you want to bounce it off me, that's fine with me. I don't feel a need to see it first. [09:58] I have 30 mins before my conf call [09:59] ok, never mind then [09:59] But a quick question on answer tracker terminology [10:00] SteveA, is "Ask a question" correct terminology to replace "Request support"? (This is for one of the graphical buttons) [10:00] I do know that it should be changed from "request support" [10:00] mpt: if we implemented infestations, would we really want pages for individual infestations? [10:01] but I do not know the final outcome of what the wording should be [10:01] jamesh, almost certainly not, but we (very nearly) don't have individual pages for bugtasks any more either, but they still have URLs === dand [n=dand@gw.datagroup.ro] has joined #launchpad [10:01] mpt: can you wait until the launchpad meeting in a few hours, and we can check that out then? [10:01] ok [10:04] eep, I haven't written up the notes for the last meeting [10:04] I'll do that now :-X === Spads [n=spacehob@host-87-74-89-151.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #launchpad === glatzor [n=sebi@p54964CCF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad === spiv [n=andrew@218-214-66-203.people.net.au] has joined #launchpad === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #launchpad === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === elmo [n=james@83-216-156-21.jamest747.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@ubuntu/member/ajmitch] has joined #launchpad === zwnj [n=zwnj@194.225.70.57] has joined #launchpad [10:21] spiv: ping [10:24] carlos: hi [10:24] carlos: https://launchpad.net/bugs/67860 [10:24] carlos: could you read current comment? [10:26] seb128: I see it, yes [10:26] Malone bug 67860 in libgnomeprintui "[Edgy] Some strings can't be translated" [Undecided,Fix committed] === stu1 [n=stub@ppp-58.8.16.239.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad [10:26] carlos: could you reply on the "does rosetta update templates for stable" point? [10:26] I'm on it [10:26] thank you [10:28] seb128: done [10:28] cool === seb128 hugs carlos === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad === cjwatson [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [10:48] Hi folks. I meant to discuss https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubiquity/MoreUserConfig with some Launchpad developers at allhands, but didn't get round to it. Would anyone have time to discuss LP person creation from the Ubuntu installer with me? [10:56] cjwatson, the most relevant person would be salgado, who should be here in two hours [10:56] ok, thanks [10:56] but we'll be having the Launchpad meeting then, so make that 2 hours 45 minutes [11:14] mpt: "questions and answers" [11:15] says mark [11:15] malcc: ping [11:15] SteveA: Pong [11:15] SteveA, all the other buttons are verb phrases: "Report a bug", "Register a branch", "Help translate", "Import your project" [11:15] yes [11:16] and "Take a tour" [11:16] do you think people will be confused by a different grammatically functional phrase there? [11:16] I don't think people will be confused by the grammar role so much, but I do think people will misunderstand what it's for [11:17] Thinking that "Questions and answers" is like a FAQ for the product or whatever [11:17] good morning, folks [11:17] can you propose a better phrase right now? [11:18] "Ask a question" [11:21] ok, mention that in the lp meeting [11:22] ok [11:22] that doesn't include the idea of answering a question, explicitly [11:22] I don't know how important that is [11:22] ("Report a bug" doesn't include fixing them either) [11:22] Nor does "Report a bug" include the idea of resolving bugs, but I think these buttons are supposed to be for the most common actions [11:22] snap [11:23] :-=) === jinty [n=jinty@177.Red-83-54-74.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === mpt apparently needs a shave === mni [n=mustapha@193.219.236.66] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200.138.132.233] has joined #launchpad === matsubara [n=matsubar@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === _Shade_ [i=kvirc@chello062179054223.chello.pl] has joined #launchpad [11:52] <_Shade_> hi there [11:53] <_Shade_> what are these karma points for? [11:53] _Shade_: if you get enough karma points you end up being something better in your next life. [11:55] <_Shade_> highvoltage: i c... i'm ubuntero right now, but i only do some translations. Is there any "further stage" ? [11:55] _Shade_: yep, bug triaging, specifications, packaging... the list is very long [11:57] _Shade_, there is no reward for karma at the moment [11:57] Ubuntero just means you've signed the code of conduct [11:57] It's similar to the karma system on bugzilla.gnome.org in that way [11:57] <_Shade_> highvoltage: but these are connected to these specific tasks, I do not do anything besides translating :) [11:57] mpt: there is no non-social reward, that is [11:57] _Shade_: time to skill up then? read about motu on the wiki and join #ubuntu-motu ;) [12:00] <_Shade_> well i'm not sure i can cope such a skill-driller :)... but anyways it's worth a try [12:01] SteveA, BjornT, jamesh: In Zope, to catch datetimeutils.SyntaxError / datetimeutils.DateError is enough to catch datetimeutils.DateTimeError ? === ddaa [n=ddaa@nor75-18-82-241-238-155.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad [12:02] Hello [12:02] cjwatson, true, though I've never seen people say "wow, nice karma", so obviously I hang out in the wrong channels :-) [12:02] SteveA, BjornT, jamesh: hmm, I think the answer is 'yes', I found it in our code, so don't worry. [12:03] not so much that, but it is something we look at in e.g. Ubuntu membership reviews; obviously not in isolation [12:03] at least, if somebody's karma is very low and they're going for Ubuntu membership, we would ask why [12:04] though there are gaps in karma, like no karma for uploads === mni [n=mustapha@193.219.236.66] has left #launchpad [] [12:04] ajmitch: is that a hint of some kind? [12:05] ajmitch: yes, though that's not relevant for Ubuntu membership since people applying for that won't have uploaded anything themselves yet [12:05] cjwatson: and that you'd see stuff on -changes lists anyway, for the example of people intending to go on to become MOTUs [12:06] jamesh: it doesn't worry me [12:06] it'd just be another excuse for seb128 & dholbach to get insane amounts of karma :) [12:07] spiv: ping [12:08] SteveA: pong [12:10] spiv: where can I read your supermirror smartserver plans? [12:10] ajmitch, do you know whether there's a bug reported about that? [12:11] Ah crud, those notes are still in tomboy. [12:11] SteveA: I'm pasting into the wiki now. [12:11] mpt: no idea [12:11] SteveA: sorry about that! [12:11] wouldn't it be great if you go do a bzr push from tomboy to a wiki [12:11] mpt: I just assumed it would have been on the list of things to do, not needing a bug [12:12] SteveA: if we had 20% time... [12:12] ajmitch, that kind of thinking is death to bugtrackers :-( [12:12] Anyway, it is reported, bug 54596 [12:12] Malone bug 54596 in soyuz "karma for uploads" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/54596 [12:13] ajmitch: we've got a bug about getting karma for Bazaar commits, but it hasn't been implemented yet. [12:13] ajmitch: that'd help Ubuntu devs maintaining packages in Bazaar [12:13] jamesh: only for pushes to the supermirror? === ajmitch maintains in bzr, but doesn't push often enough [12:14] ajmitch: for revisions scanned by Launchpad [12:14] SupermirrorSmartServerPlan on the wiki. [12:14] ajmitch: you wouldn't get karma for revisions you don't publish :) [12:14] SteveA: ^ [12:14] SteveA: I need to go afk until the LP meeting now. [12:14] jamesh: I mean that it's per-revision, not per-push :) === salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [12:15] jamesh: still very hard to put a value on - I often make lots of small commits to code I work on [12:15] Good morning salgado [12:15] ajmitch: it's a good thing that karma doesn't buy you anything then ... [12:16] morning mpt! [12:16] spiv: ok, I'll read [12:16] jamesh: ubuntu partners status [12:16] mpt, have you seen the comment I left on SearchingProjects? [12:16] iirc there's still info on there about extra points being given for people in the top 100 on launchpad === _Shade_ [i=kvirc@chello062179054223.chello.pl] has left #launchpad ["So] [12:18] Actually I do have a use case for karma [12:19] When I see somebody setting up strange-looking vcs-imports (like it makes me go "what the hell!?"), I check the product details and the owner's karma [12:20] if the product is essentially empty and the user has zero karma, it's clearly somebody just trying up launchpad, so I do not bother to get in touch with the guy for clarifications [12:23] salgado, no [12:23] one can also sell or buy karma points; that's an important source of revenue for ubuntu community [12:23] obligatory customer testimonial: I just got a new car when I sold half of my karma points on ebay! [12:24] bug 59544 [12:24] Malone bug 59544 in launchpad "Who wants to be a (karma) millionaire?" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59544 [12:24] heh === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #launchpad [12:28] mpt, can you check it? it's a very simple question... [12:30] salgado: i have a branch in your review queue that has been in needs-review for 27 days now. do you plan to review it soon, or should i find another reviewer? [12:32] wow, has it been there for that long already? [12:33] sorry BjornT, I was reviewing the oldest branches first, and either the other ones were actually older or I did something stupid [12:34] BjornT, anyway, I'll review it today [12:34] thanks [12:36] New bug: #73890 in blueprint "Show diff of whiteboard changes in e-mail notifications" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73890 === Keybuk [n=scott@syndicate.netsplit.com] has joined #launchpad [12:44] BjornT, the diff for that branch on PendingReviews is up to date, I guess? [12:45] salgado: maybe not. i'll generate a new one just to make sure. [12:49] salgado: diff updated [12:50] thanks BjornT [12:55] New bug: #73894 in launchpad "No time given for creation of Bugs or Support requests" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73894 [12:58] hello hello [01:00] me looks around [01:00] for a / [01:00] it is time [01:00] if you need a /, go take one now, you'll be done before we get started properly [01:00] meeting time [01:00] Yay [01:00] ne [01:00] welcome to today's launchpad devel meeting [01:00] in addition to kiko and malcc, who is here? [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] me [01:01] ddaa: ? [01:01] flacoste? === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable207.210-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad [01:02] stub? [01:02] you mean flacoste? === kiko pokes the tardy === static [n=emurphy@194.18.118.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad [01:02] me [01:02] SteveA: stub said something about maybe missing it in his email to warthogs (he's sick) [01:02] stub said he was feeling sick on the warthogs list [01:02] yeah, he said he'd try to make this meeting. [01:02] but if he doesn't turn up, I guess he's ill [01:03] get well soon, stub [01:03] wou [01:03] anyone seen ddaa today? [01:03] he's around [01:03] kiko: would you continue the meeting while I call ddaa? [01:03] hello [01:03] ah, ok [01:04] hi ddaa [01:04] == Agenda == [01:04] * Roll call [01:04] * Agenda [01:04] * Next meeting [01:04] * Activity reports [01:04] sorry was busy siphoning the brain of bzr newbie coming from git [01:04] SteveA, your trick didn't work this time! [01:04] * Actions from last meeting [01:04] * Oops report (Matsubara) [01:04] * Bug report report (mpt) [01:04] * Production and staging (Stuart) [01:04] * Launchpad 1.0 status reports [01:04] * Sysadmin requests [01:04] ---- [01:04] * Answer tracker terminology (mpt) [01:04] * (other items) [01:04] ---- [01:04] * Keep, Bag, Change [01:04] * Three sentences [01:04] [01:04] ddaa: aha, important stuff! [01:04] next meeting, thur 7 dec, usual time [01:05] yay [01:05] activity reports [01:05] I suck this week. [01:05] up to date [01:05] I suck [01:05] up to date! [01:05] I suck [01:05] I suck [01:05] I suck [01:05] up to date [01:05] I'm suck-tastic [01:05] I suck too [01:05] I suck! [01:05] up to date [01:05] up to date [01:05] I suck === ..[topic/#launchpad:mpt] : Developer meeting: Thu 7 Dec, 1200UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 [01:06] thanks mpt [01:06] ok. I have a request [01:06] everyone who sucks... start freshly today. send an activity report for today's activities TODAY [01:07] with or without times / durations [01:07] * Actions from last meeting [01:07] lots of these [01:07] * spiv to finish the damn `__eq__` for database objects action item [01:07] I have a new branch that detects when sqlobjects are from different transactions by noting in each object the transaction id from postgres. [01:07] (which might be a performance issue in its current form, but comparing obj._connection isn't good enough) [01:07] It causes 26 tests fail, but I've pushed the implementation for review. [01:07] * ddaa to propose updating of our wikis to the shiny new moin, somewhere his request won't be forgotten [01:07] If the direction seems sane, I'll sort out the broken tests. [01:07] * reviewers to discuss ideas and principles for keeping branch review quick (jamesh to add to review meeting agenda) [01:08] spiv: I will review it. please ensure it is in my review queue. [01:08] SteveA: ok [01:08] I added it to the agenda, and we discussed it at the meeting [01:08] spiv, can I see some of the failing tests? I'll help try and see if they are indeed reused objects. [01:08] thanks james === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad [01:08] SteveA, jamesh: I've been gradually arguing for breaking up specs into smaller specs to help in this sense. [01:08] SteveA: who's in charge of admining the launchpad and bazaar wikis? If that's the admins, I can RT them. If it's Nuzum I can email him. === cprov [n=cprov@monga.dorianet.com.br] has joined #launchpad [01:09] sorry ... [01:09] ddaa: it is the admins. but, I want to know why the upgrade is justified right now, or whether it can wait until february. [01:09] as we need to upgrade them anyway around feb [01:09] Because we live by the shiny, don't we? [01:09] no [01:10] Can wait indefinitely :) [01:10] I find the new wiki theme harder to use [01:10] because it's shift+tab from the text area into the save button [01:10] not tab [01:10] ddaa: if there is any porting work for the wiki auth code, then it is not worth doing now. [01:10] editmoin! [01:10] press enter in the change summary field, works as well [01:10] Oh, sorry [01:10] :) [01:10] SteveA, or just Enter from the summary field [01:10] (that's what I've always used) [01:11] SteveA: I have the same problem, except I always want to hit Preview ;) [01:11] oh, snap [01:11] kiko: https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/fileMRb9EW.html [01:11] anyway, I just want the wysiwyg editor more, but no other compelling reason [01:11] so just ignore that, we can stick to the old wiki for a while [01:11] ok, let's revisit this next year [01:11] in about 1 month [01:12] thanks for bringing it up, ddaa. I think it's a good suggestion overall. [01:12] I just don't want to make extra work for admins. [01:12] ddaa: The wysiwyg editor usually screws up the formatting for non-wysiwyg.. [01:12] * Oops report (Matsubara) [01:12] Today's oops report is about bugs 44919, 30602, 6385 and OOPS-333A1726 [01:12] Malone bug 44919 in launchpad "UnicodeDecodeError while registering a new account." [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/44919 [01:12] Malone bug 30602 in rosetta "Timeout errors in +translate" [Critical,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/30602 [01:12] Malone bug 6385 in rosetta "/rosetta/{products,projects} URLs are broken and should redirect" [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/6385 [01:12] https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/333A1726 [01:12] Bug 6385 was previously assigned to carlos; I've taken that one. [01:12] Bjorn, is anything blocking the fix for bug 44919? [01:12] I talked to kiko yesterday about bug 30602, who in turn told me that carlos, danilos and stub have a plan to deal with it. So guys, how's it going and who should I assign 30602 to? [01:13] ouch, busted. [01:13] we've only got it into discussion so far, it's all about rosetta db optimizations [01:13] danilos, carlos: can we have a meeting post-meeting? [01:13] kiko: sure [01:13] kiko: sure [01:13] matsubara: only the lack of time. i've been busy with 1.0 lately, but i might i should be able to take a look at it soon. [01:13] cool. [01:14] BjornT, is it something complicated, or will it take you 1 hour? [01:14] matsubara: we'll assign it appropriately after our meeting, I guess ;) [01:14] matsubara: for the OOPS, I posted about the probable cause on the list. [01:14] danilos: ok, thanks [01:14] jamesh, remind us? [01:14] There are around 4000 NotFound errors because of arrow*.gif. I chatted with kiko yesterday about it and came up with the following (hackish) patch which kiko suggested to be cherry picked; Although I find it annoying to have this many OOPSes in the reports, I don't think it deserves cherry picking because it's not user visible and not a blocker. mpt, can you write a pro [01:14] per fix before the next rollout? Or should I just go on with this patch and request the cherry pick? [01:15] it's 4000 404s per day [01:15] I think it's worth it [01:15] it's such a trivial patch [01:15] kiko: the image is referenced in the CSS used by the drop down menus code [01:15] kiko: i'm not sure yet, i'll have to take a closer look at it first. [01:15] BjornT, could you take that closer look today/tomorrowish? [01:15] kiko: fixing the CSS to use the name without ".gif" would be as good. [01:16] kiko: I don't think it's worth cherrypicking for that [01:16] kiko: sure, i can do it tomorrow. [01:16] matsubara, ok [01:16] kiko: I don't see what 4000 404s a day has to do with it [01:16] SteveA, a two-liner? [01:16] kiko: they're not user-visible [01:16] I don't think it is even visible if you don't pull down the menu [01:16] SteveA, it's noise in a report that we want to rely on as a QA metric. it's also spamming our server logs. but... [01:16] if we fix the CSS, we should also update the main template to update the css rev [01:16] (not even sure if it is visible then,. [01:17] I DEFER [01:17] our QA and metrics stuff should be able to exclude things we know about and understand [01:17] thanks BjornT and mpt [01:17] this kind of situation will come up again === kiko thinks it's worth it and hates you all [01:17] next subject! [01:17] one thing about the arrow [01:17] kiko: welcome to my world! [01:17] et tu, kiko! [01:17] it's meant to be there, I think [01:17] mpt: do you want a bug reported on it? [01:18] I mean, it is user-visible in one sense -- I think it's meant to appear in the UI [01:18] matsubara, yes please. [01:18] mpt: any comment on that? [01:18] * Bug report report (mpt) [01:18] None except that I'll fix it if it's considered that important [01:18] is it fixed in the 1.0 UI? [01:18] if so, just fix the CSS on mainline to exclude it [01:19] Today, there are only ten known Critical bugs in Launchpad without released fixes. (Yay!) They are: [01:19] and rev the CSS version number in teh main template === sivang [i=sivan@ubuntu/member/sivang] has joined #launchpad [01:19] hi all [01:19] ok [01:19] * Bug #2497 (/people/*/+translations times out for prolific translators), Critical, Fix Committed, kiko [01:19] Malone bug 2497 in rosetta "/people/*/+translations times out for prolific translators" [Critical,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/2497 [01:19] kiko, did you decide whether this was resolved enough to be Fix Released, or whether it needed a new bug report? [01:19] * Bug #30602 (Timeout errors in +translate), Critical, In Progress, which matsubara raised a few minutes ago [01:19] Malone bug 30602 in rosetta "Timeout errors in +translate" [Critical,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/30602 [01:19] woop, am I interrupting in a LP meeting? ;) [01:19] mpt, it's resolved enough. a new bug report might be opened for the soft time outs, but that's not enough of a priority I think. [01:19] sivang, yes, finishing in ~25 minutes [01:20] * Bug #44214 (We need to add code to prevent POFiles being in the same path), Critical, In Progress, carlos [01:20] Malone bug 44214 in rosetta "We need to add code to prevent POFiles being in the same path" [Critical,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/44214 [01:20] * Bug #46982 (Need to support KDE like plural forms), Critical, In Progress, carlos [01:20] * Bug #68014 (Rosetta reverts translation fixes to old faulty values), Critical, In Progress, carlos [01:20] * Bug #73509 (.po file export doesn't update cached files), Critical, Confirmed, carlos [01:20] carlos, it seems like you're always the most-doomed. How are these going? [01:20] Malone bug 46982 in rosetta "Need to support KDE like plural forms" [Critical,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/46982 [01:20] Malone bug 68014 in rosetta "Rosetta reverts translation fixes to old faulty values" [Critical,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68014 [01:20] Malone bug 73509 in rosetta ".po file export doesn't update cached files" [Critical,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73509 [01:20] hmm, k, sorry for the interuptions, will come back later. [01:20] I can easily take on 46982 (kde plural forms support) [01:20] mpt: bug 44214 is reviewed and I answered the review, I'm waiting for spiv's confirmation that I can merge it [01:20] kiko, ok, I'll do that [01:21] carlos: do you want me to help out with these? [01:21] mpt: #73509 is new and I didn't have time to look into it yet [01:21] mpt: +1 on kiko's comment. I'm paying attention to the +translations page and if turns out to be a problem again I'll report it. [01:21] carlos: I'll take a look at my mail [01:21] * Bug #66383 (private), Critical, In Progress, ddaa [01:21] Bug 66383 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/66383 is private [01:21] ddaa, any progress? [01:21] * Bug #71283 (Allow non-authenticated rendering of +translate pages), Critical, Confirmed, unassigned [01:21] Malone bug 71283 in rosetta "Allow non-authenticated rendering of +translate pages" [Critical,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71283 [01:21] kiko, is that really Critical? If so, who should get it? [01:22] danilos: if you see that can handle any of those, is fine for me. I don't think I will be able to start a new bug, I'm leaving for vacations next week.. [01:22] spiv: I sent it last Friday [01:22] bug 71283 is very important as a workaround for no translation search [01:22] carlos: found it, thanks [01:22] carlos: I know, that's why I am asking; I'll take over the kde plural form support, and see about the others later [01:22] it is something that many rosetta users want a lot [01:22] mpt: band-aid fix has been in production for a while. Currently in neverending review. [01:22] spiv is giving me a hard time with it [01:23]