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kylemBenC, woot. i see you bumped to .20 :)02:18
BenCkylem: you saw it here first, zero-day linux kernel ;)02:19
kylemhehe02:19
kylemhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.19/+bug/7381502:21
zul__BenC: does virt work yet?02:21
kylemBenC, ^-- is fixed in newer .19, mind if i reject?02:21
kylem(the problem is hda_intel defaulted to enable_msi, which is broken on 99% of machines, it's been fixed upstream since, and you've already pulled it.)02:21
BenCkylem: Mark it fix released02:21
BenCzul__: The 2.6.20 is just 2.6.19 in disguise02:22
zul__BenC: i know :)02:22
kylemBenC, k.02:22
BenCzul: Sorry, I lost the sarcasm :)02:22
zulBenC: heh how about now02:22
kylemhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/6833802:24
kylemBenC, ^-- any objection if i pull in a backported sky2 to -updates?02:24
BenCkylem: Nope02:24
BenCkylem: BTW, I'm thinking about making a temporary git repo location for us on people02:24
kylemBenC, sounds good. i'd like to hopefully get a git.ubuntu.com or something as well for public stuff, kernel.org has been pissing me off...02:25
ajmitchanother git repo for us to pull?02:25
zulthat would be nice02:25
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BenCajmitch: Not really, another git repo for no one to pull :)02:25
zulwhere us community people can put crack as well would be good02:26
BenCzul: There's that too02:26
BenChmm..I could host it on my T102:26
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BenCuse this 965 box that canonical sent me02:26
ajmitchzul: your home cable connection not good enough for you? :)02:26
jdongwhat are the chances that Feisty's shiny 2.6.19 kernels would work on Edgy? :D02:26
kylemajmitch, the problem is we need a place to put things with private security fixes until they are fisclosed.02:26
ajmitchkylem: quite true02:27
zulajmitch: uh not really when people like Mirthandir cant access it02:27
ajmitchjdong: I hope you're not thinking of backporting it02:27
kylemjdong, you need a few other dependencies.02:27
jdongajmitch: for my personal purposes02:27
jdongajmitch: not publicly of course :D02:27
zulBenC: that would be good02:27
zulthen i can try throttling your connection ;)02:27
zulin a good way02:28
jdongcrap, trying to build a kernel in tmpfs was probably bad judgement on my part, huh....02:29
jdongcat: /var/cache/prevu/src/24944/linux-source-2.6.19-2.6.19/debian/abi/2.6.19-7.10/abiname: No such file or directory02:30
jdongpfft, bogus02:30
jdongkylem: what kind of dependencies woudl I need?02:33
kyleminitramfs-tools and module-init-tools, i think02:34
jdongmmm02:34
zulhave we merged kernel-package yet?02:35
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BenCjdong: You can just install the feisty kernel deb's on edgy03:32
BenCall my machines are still running edgy userspace with feisty kernels03:33
BenCjdong: But just to make sure, install the packages kylem mentioned03:34
jdongBenC: ok, thanks will do :)03:49
jdongBenC: heh restricted modules debs need recompiling... libc, qt, etc libs mismatch :)03:59
BenCjdong: You can just do a partial upgrade04:00
jdongerr04:00
BenCset sources.list to feisty, sudo apt-get install linux-generic, then switch sources.list back04:00
jdongerr ok :)04:00
jdongfglrx-control wants to pull in new libc6, and I'm chickening out.... :)04:07
zulnight04:10
ajmitchnight zul 04:15
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infinityBenC: For the next LRM upload, remember to s/restricted/multiverse/ for -lowlatency stuff (I already did so in the archive overrides)06:05
BenCI thought I had that right06:05
infinityYou got it right in linux-meta, not in LRM.06:05
BenCok, I'll get it fixed up06:06
infinitySpiff.06:06
dade`'morning06:10
fabbioneBenC: are we going to enable ext4 in .19/.20 ?06:17
fabbionenot that i need > 8TB storage06:18
fabbioneat least i don't quite yet06:18
jdongfabbione: ooh, that'd give me a new toy to play with :D06:21
fabbionejdong: do you have storage for more than 8TB?06:24
jdongfabbione: no, but people say ext4 will do better with large files?06:24
jdongand I do have some 20GB video files that ext3 is not exactly spectacular with06:25
kylemBenC, are you on vendor-sec?07:00
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infinityHe's not, afaik.07:02
kylemone of us probably should be, or fed encrypted copies of kernel problems...07:02
infinityYou're an upstream kernel guy, no?07:02
infinityYou should get on kernel-security@k.o, or whatever that list is.07:03
infinityOh, just security@k.o07:03
kylemis vendor-sec @lst.de?07:03
infinityYeah.07:03
kylemheh. hch.07:03
fabbionekylem: we have pitti and kees on vendor-sec anyway07:05
fabbionekylem: just coordinate with them.. it's easier and less pain07:05
BenCkylem: no07:29
BenCas in, no I'm not on vendor-sec07:30
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jerom1Hi all12:22
jerom1i have problem when i install HP Proliant DL360 G5 server with PXE and last dapper-updated netboot archive12:25
jerom1it append many log in /var/log/syslog and loop :12:27
jerom1kernel : hub 5-2:1.0 : USB hub found12:27
jerom17 ports detected12:27
jerom1USB disconnect, address 1012:27
jerom1new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 1212:27
jerom1input : HP Virtual Keyboard as /class/input/input152212:27
jerom1input : HP Virtual Keyboard as /class/input/input/152312:27
jerom1input : USB HID v1.0.1 Mouse [HP Virtual Keyboard]  on usb-0000:01:04.4.112:27
jerom1USB disconnect, address 1112:27
jerom1and loop with another address number12:28
fabbionejerom1: please file a bug in launchpad and check if older netboot installs work12:41
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zulhey03:09
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=== kylem does a couple test builds pre-push.
dade`desert is the only kernel developer that has a macbook ?03:57
zulif you want to send me one my way ill be happy to help you out ;)03:58
zulmuhahha...i dont have to setup ldap for central authenticaion04:00
kylemugh, i was working way too late last night.04:00
zulhow late?04:00
kylem2am.04:01
zulyeah thats pretty late04:01
kylemand up at 6.04:01
zulouch04:01
dade`zul: you can tell me what to do without having one, i'll be your eyes04:01
zuli know nothing about macs04:01
zulkylem: heh 11:30 is late for me04:06
dade`8:01 pm here04:09
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jbaileyBenC: Around?04:16
BenCjbailey: yeppers04:16
jbaileyLooking at:04:16
jbailey  * debian/firmware: Add qla2xxx firmware.04:16
jbailey    - GIT-SHA c980a1cfa2bc6623c9732ebae9d63aae9f0d7e2704:16
jbaileyI wound up helping a couple Debian folks figure out how to load firmware stuff in the initramfs for their things.04:17
jbaileyI think we'll inherit patches soon from Debian if it's easier to not explicitely add firmware and just have them on the drive.04:17
BenCjbailey: Ah...we need a method for automating that I guess04:17
jbailey(so not do Debian-style rip it all out, but don't go out of our way to stuff it in)04:17
BenCjbailey: So far qla2xxx is the only one that we provide that needs this, right?04:18
BenCjbailey: I could add a small bit to hook-functions to see if qla2xxx driver is loaded, and pull the firmware in explicitly04:19
jbaileyYEah, and I think that's the one that James Bottomley and Grant Grundler were asking about.04:20
jbaileySo we might be able to just pull a solution from them.04:20
BenCsounds like it should be possible with just 2 lines of code04:21
BenCor there abouts04:21
BenCjbailey: Oh, btw, vmware modules are going to get a nice overhaul in the next lrm04:21
jbaileyNice!04:22
jbaileyWill that include all the vmware-tools stuff?04:22
BenCvmware-{player,server,tools}04:22
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jbaileyNow quick.. The ship is sinking!04:23
BenCwe need BUTTER!04:23
=== fabbione takes the opium and the wine on his boat and lets the other sink with the titanic
zulhmmm...ok...weirdos04:24
jbaileyYou go MacGyver. =)04:24
BenCfabbione: nice, wine to keep you warm, and opium to make you not care that you are sure to die :)04:25
zulmmm...titanic04:26
fabbioneBenC: hmm no.. that the others are dieing :)04:26
BenChehe04:26
jbaileyfabbione: You forgot the shotgun.04:26
jbaileyIn case someone wants to make you share. =)04:26
fabbionejbailey: aahha04:26
kylemshould have shot the captain.04:26
BenCkylem: You mean the pop-eye looking guy at the front of the room? :)04:27
kylemyeah, the village people reject04:27
kylem;-)04:27
BenClol04:27
fabbioneROFL04:27
jbaileykylem: I think Jamu tried to get people in line with shotguns, and the crew refused to shoot the passengers.04:27
kylemso shoot the crew.04:27
kylemmake 'em learn.04:27
zulthen who is going to launch the lifeboats04:28
kylemhmm should have pulled the04:28
kylem"it's a boat full of christians, they're going to a better place"04:28
zulhah04:28
jbailey"The rest of you get to die of exposure in the middle of the atlantic.  Here's a life vest, jump in."04:29
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dade`BenC: is there a way I can get useful information for you to find and fix the kernel that prevent macbooks from sleeping ? 04:29
dade`s/kernel/kernel module/04:29
zul"Have fun"04:30
BenCdade`: Sure, start unloading 5 modules at a time from lsmod output, until you get a successful suspend/resume04:30
dade`BenC: there are modules i can't unload04:31
BenCwhen you hit a group of 5 that made it work, go through them singly until you find the one that did it04:31
BenCdade`: Try the ones you can first04:31
BenCdade`: Start with networking and sound04:31
dade`I suspect it's something PIIX related, 'cause i get the same problem i solved in 2.6.18 disabling piix.ko04:32
dade`but I'll try.04:32
BenCit's possible04:32
BenCif you feel it's piix, then I'd hold off until I get the fixes in so you don't waste much time on it04:32
dade`you have fixes for that '04:33
dade`?04:33
kylembleh sky2.04:41
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zulyay05:04
zuldo do do..05:27
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kylemBenC, do you have some trick for testing trees, or should i just tar/scp them to the buildd and give 'em a whirl?05:52
BenCfakeroot debian/rules binary-debs05:53
kylemi wonder what will be slower... building on my laptop, or scping them. :)05:53
BenCyou can always do both and see which one finishes first :)05:54
kylemhaha.05:54
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zulbrb need to reboot06:16
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Mithrandirkylem: ccache is nice.06:17
jbaileyMithrandir: I don't think kernel's ccache well, do they?  I thought linux/version.h was included in everything.06:40
jbaileyIIRC, the version changes with every git commit..06:41
kylemoptional06:42
zuljbailey: they dont ccache well imho06:42
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BanditDHi! I have terrible write performance with the Edgy kernel, about 1 MB/s. Hardware is a Acer laptop, SATA disc, lspci shows 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller IDE (rev 02) and 0a:09.2 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments Unknown device 803b. Anyone one idea what I can do? Thanks!07:14
kylemis DMA enabled?08:20
BanditDI am not sure:08:28
BanditDtmm@nbk-wis018:~$ sudo hdparm -d /dev/sda08:28
BanditD/dev/sda:08:28
BanditDtmm@nbk-wis018:~$08:28
BanditDtmm@nbk-wis018:~$ sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/sda08:29
BanditD/dev/sda:08:29
BanditD setting using_dma to 1 (on)08:29
BanditD HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device08:29
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metreshi guys, Im trying a recompilation of my kernel, but I have problem..., I just installed Edgy on my amd64, I downloaded the source linux-2.6.19 from kernel.org, unpack but when I try make xconfig, I got this response : "ake[1] : *** Pas de rgle pour fabriquer la cible  scripts/kconfig/.tmp_qtcheck , ncessaire pour  scripts/kconfig/qconf.o . Arrt." Do anyone have a clue ?09:06
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BenCmetres: This channel is specific to the ubuntu kernel, not general kernel questions09:31
BenCmetres: Your question would be better asked in #ubuntu09:32
metresOk sorry 09:32
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zulBenC: i figured off an email to jeremy from xensource about paravirt10:36
kylemthere's pretty good indication kvm will be merged for 2.6.2010:49
BenCkylem: Yeah, I saw the patches to lkml11:00
kylemBenC, did you see the earlier discussion on that other irc channel? :)11:00
BenCno, I missed it11:00
jbaileykylem: Is there any indication that either Xen or VmWare will *use* the kvm?11:21
jbaileyOr is that still too much to hope for? =)11:21
zultoo much to hope for...they are using paravirt11:21
zuler..paravirt-ops11:21
kylemfrom what i can tell, the plan seems to be to evolve kvm.11:21
jbaileyGreat.11:22
jbaileySounds like how pthreads was developped. =)11:22
kylemand we all know how that turned out...11:22
zullater...im heading home11:24

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