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[02:18] <kylem> BenC, woot. i see you bumped to .20 :)
[02:19] <BenC> kylem: you saw it here first, zero-day linux kernel ;)
[02:19] <kylem> hehe
[02:21] <kylem> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.19/+bug/73815
[02:21] <zul__> BenC: does virt work yet?
[02:21] <kylem> BenC, ^-- is fixed in newer .19, mind if i reject?
[02:21] <kylem> (the problem is hda_intel defaulted to enable_msi, which is broken on 99% of machines, it's been fixed upstream since, and you've already pulled it.)
[02:21] <BenC> kylem: Mark it fix released
[02:22] <BenC> zul__: The 2.6.20 is just 2.6.19 in disguise
[02:22] <zul__> BenC: i know :)
[02:22] <kylem> BenC, k.
[02:22] <BenC> zul: Sorry, I lost the sarcasm :)
[02:22] <zul> BenC: heh how about now
[02:24] <kylem> https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/68338
[02:24] <kylem> BenC, ^-- any objection if i pull in a backported sky2 to -updates?
[02:24] <BenC> kylem: Nope
[02:24] <BenC> kylem: BTW, I'm thinking about making a temporary git repo location for us on people
[02:25] <kylem> BenC, sounds good. i'd like to hopefully get a git.ubuntu.com or something as well for public stuff, kernel.org has been pissing me off...
[02:25] <ajmitch> another git repo for us to pull?
[02:25] <zul> that would be nice
=== ajmitch is just pulling the current .19/.20 now to play with
[02:25] <BenC> ajmitch: Not really, another git repo for no one to pull :)
[02:26] <zul> where us community people can put crack as well would be good
[02:26] <BenC> zul: There's that too
[02:26] <BenC> hmm..I could host it on my T1
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[02:26] <BenC> use this 965 box that canonical sent me
[02:26] <ajmitch> zul: your home cable connection not good enough for you? :)
[02:26] <jdong> what are the chances that Feisty's shiny 2.6.19 kernels would work on Edgy? :D
[02:26] <kylem> ajmitch, the problem is we need a place to put things with private security fixes until they are fisclosed.
[02:27] <ajmitch> kylem: quite true
[02:27] <zul> ajmitch: uh not really when people like Mirthandir cant access it
[02:27] <ajmitch> jdong: I hope you're not thinking of backporting it
[02:27] <kylem> jdong, you need a few other dependencies.
[02:27] <jdong> ajmitch: for my personal purposes
[02:27] <jdong> ajmitch: not publicly of course :D
[02:27] <zul> BenC: that would be good
[02:27] <zul> then i can try throttling your connection ;)
[02:28] <zul> in a good way
[02:29] <jdong> crap, trying to build a kernel in tmpfs was probably bad judgement on my part, huh....
[02:30] <jdong> cat: /var/cache/prevu/src/24944/linux-source-2.6.19-2.6.19/debian/abi/2.6.19-7.10/abiname: No such file or directory
[02:30] <jdong> pfft, bogus
[02:33] <jdong> kylem: what kind of dependencies woudl I need?
[02:34] <kylem> initramfs-tools and module-init-tools, i think
[02:34] <jdong> mmm
[02:35] <zul> have we merged kernel-package yet?
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[03:32] <BenC> jdong: You can just install the feisty kernel deb's on edgy
[03:33] <BenC> all my machines are still running edgy userspace with feisty kernels
[03:34] <BenC> jdong: But just to make sure, install the packages kylem mentioned
[03:49] <jdong> BenC: ok, thanks will do :)
[03:59] <jdong> BenC: heh restricted modules debs need recompiling... libc, qt, etc libs mismatch :)
[04:00] <BenC> jdong: You can just do a partial upgrade
[04:00] <jdong> err
[04:00] <BenC> set sources.list to feisty, sudo apt-get install linux-generic, then switch sources.list back
[04:00] <jdong> err ok :)
[04:07] <jdong> fglrx-control wants to pull in new libc6, and I'm chickening out.... :)
[04:10] <zul> night
[04:15] <ajmitch> night zul 
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[06:05] <infinity> BenC: For the next LRM upload, remember to s/restricted/multiverse/ for -lowlatency stuff (I already did so in the archive overrides)
[06:05] <BenC> I thought I had that right
[06:05] <infinity> You got it right in linux-meta, not in LRM.
[06:06] <BenC> ok, I'll get it fixed up
[06:06] <infinity> Spiff.
[06:10] <dade`> 'morning
[06:17] <fabbione> BenC: are we going to enable ext4 in .19/.20 ?
[06:18] <fabbione> not that i need > 8TB storage
[06:18] <fabbione> at least i don't quite yet
[06:21] <jdong> fabbione: ooh, that'd give me a new toy to play with :D
[06:24] <fabbione> jdong: do you have storage for more than 8TB?
[06:24] <jdong> fabbione: no, but people say ext4 will do better with large files?
[06:25] <jdong> and I do have some 20GB video files that ext3 is not exactly spectacular with
[07:00] <kylem> BenC, are you on vendor-sec?
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[07:02] <infinity> He's not, afaik.
[07:02] <kylem> one of us probably should be, or fed encrypted copies of kernel problems...
[07:02] <infinity> You're an upstream kernel guy, no?
[07:03] <infinity> You should get on kernel-security@k.o, or whatever that list is.
[07:03] <infinity> Oh, just security@k.o
[07:03] <kylem> is vendor-sec @lst.de?
[07:03] <infinity> Yeah.
[07:03] <kylem> heh. hch.
[07:05] <fabbione> kylem: we have pitti and kees on vendor-sec anyway
[07:05] <fabbione> kylem: just coordinate with them.. it's easier and less pain
[07:29] <BenC> kylem: no
[07:30] <BenC> as in, no I'm not on vendor-sec
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[12:22] <jerom1> Hi all
[12:25] <jerom1> i have problem when i install HP Proliant DL360 G5 server with PXE and last dapper-updated netboot archive
[12:27] <jerom1> it append many log in /var/log/syslog and loop :
[12:27] <jerom1> kernel : hub 5-2:1.0 : USB hub found
[12:27] <jerom1> 7 ports detected
[12:27] <jerom1> USB disconnect, address 10
[12:27] <jerom1> new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 12
[12:27] <jerom1> input : HP Virtual Keyboard as /class/input/input1522
[12:27] <jerom1> input : HP Virtual Keyboard as /class/input/input/1523
[12:27] <jerom1> input : USB HID v1.0.1 Mouse [HP Virtual Keyboard]  on usb-0000:01:04.4.1
[12:27] <jerom1> USB disconnect, address 11
[12:28] <jerom1> and loop with another address number
[12:41] <fabbione> jerom1: please file a bug in launchpad and check if older netboot installs work
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[03:09] <zul> hey
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=== kylem does a couple test builds pre-push.
[03:57] <dade`> desert is the only kernel developer that has a macbook ?
[03:58] <zul> if you want to send me one my way ill be happy to help you out ;)
[04:00] <zul> muhahha...i dont have to setup ldap for central authenticaion
[04:00] <kylem> ugh, i was working way too late last night.
[04:00] <zul> how late?
[04:01] <kylem> 2am.
[04:01] <zul> yeah thats pretty late
[04:01] <kylem> and up at 6.
[04:01] <zul> ouch
[04:01] <dade`> zul: you can tell me what to do without having one, i'll be your eyes
[04:01] <zul> i know nothing about macs
[04:06] <zul> kylem: heh 11:30 is late for me
[04:09] <dade`> 8:01 pm here
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[04:16] <jbailey> BenC: Around?
[04:16] <BenC> jbailey: yeppers
[04:16] <jbailey> Looking at:
[04:16] <jbailey>   * debian/firmware: Add qla2xxx firmware.
[04:16] <jbailey>     - GIT-SHA c980a1cfa2bc6623c9732ebae9d63aae9f0d7e27
[04:17] <jbailey> I wound up helping a couple Debian folks figure out how to load firmware stuff in the initramfs for their things.
[04:17] <jbailey> I think we'll inherit patches soon from Debian if it's easier to not explicitely add firmware and just have them on the drive.
[04:17] <BenC> jbailey: Ah...we need a method for automating that I guess
[04:17] <jbailey> (so not do Debian-style rip it all out, but don't go out of our way to stuff it in)
[04:18] <BenC> jbailey: So far qla2xxx is the only one that we provide that needs this, right?
[04:19] <BenC> jbailey: I could add a small bit to hook-functions to see if qla2xxx driver is loaded, and pull the firmware in explicitly
[04:20] <jbailey> YEah, and I think that's the one that James Bottomley and Grant Grundler were asking about.
[04:20] <jbailey> So we might be able to just pull a solution from them.
[04:21] <BenC> sounds like it should be possible with just 2 lines of code
[04:21] <BenC> or there abouts
[04:21] <BenC> jbailey: Oh, btw, vmware modules are going to get a nice overhaul in the next lrm
[04:22] <jbailey> Nice!
[04:22] <jbailey> Will that include all the vmware-tools stuff?
[04:22] <BenC> vmware-{player,server,tools}
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[04:23] <jbailey> Now quick.. The ship is sinking!
[04:23] <BenC> we need BUTTER!
=== fabbione takes the opium and the wine on his boat and lets the other sink with the titanic
[04:24] <zul> hmmm...ok...weirdos
[04:24] <jbailey> You go MacGyver. =)
[04:25] <BenC> fabbione: nice, wine to keep you warm, and opium to make you not care that you are sure to die :)
[04:26] <zul> mmm...titanic
[04:26] <fabbione> BenC: hmm no.. that the others are dieing :)
[04:26] <BenC> hehe
[04:26] <jbailey> fabbione: You forgot the shotgun.
[04:26] <jbailey> In case someone wants to make you share. =)
[04:26] <fabbione> jbailey: aahha
[04:26] <kylem> should have shot the captain.
[04:27] <BenC> kylem: You mean the pop-eye looking guy at the front of the room? :)
[04:27] <kylem> yeah, the village people reject
[04:27] <kylem> ;-)
[04:27] <BenC> lol
[04:27] <fabbione> ROFL
[04:27] <jbailey> kylem: I think Jamu tried to get people in line with shotguns, and the crew refused to shoot the passengers.
[04:27] <kylem> so shoot the crew.
[04:27] <kylem> make 'em learn.
[04:28] <zul> then who is going to launch the lifeboats
[04:28] <kylem> hmm should have pulled the
[04:28] <kylem> "it's a boat full of christians, they're going to a better place"
[04:28] <zul> hah
[04:29] <jbailey> "The rest of you get to die of exposure in the middle of the atlantic.  Here's a life vest, jump in."
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[04:29] <dade`> BenC: is there a way I can get useful information for you to find and fix the kernel that prevent macbooks from sleeping ? 
[04:29] <dade`> s/kernel/kernel module/
[04:30] <zul> "Have fun"
[04:30] <BenC> dade`: Sure, start unloading 5 modules at a time from lsmod output, until you get a successful suspend/resume
[04:31] <dade`> BenC: there are modules i can't unload
[04:31] <BenC> when you hit a group of 5 that made it work, go through them singly until you find the one that did it
[04:31] <BenC> dade`: Try the ones you can first
[04:31] <BenC> dade`: Start with networking and sound
[04:32] <dade`> I suspect it's something PIIX related, 'cause i get the same problem i solved in 2.6.18 disabling piix.ko
[04:32] <dade`> but I'll try.
[04:32] <BenC> it's possible
[04:32] <BenC> if you feel it's piix, then I'd hold off until I get the fixes in so you don't waste much time on it
[04:33] <dade`> you have fixes for that '
[04:33] <dade`> ?
[04:41] <kylem> bleh sky2.
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[05:04] <zul> yay
[05:27] <zul> do do do..
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[05:52] <kylem> BenC, do you have some trick for testing trees, or should i just tar/scp them to the buildd and give 'em a whirl?
[05:53] <BenC> fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs
[05:53] <kylem> i wonder what will be slower... building on my laptop, or scping them. :)
[05:54] <BenC> you can always do both and see which one finishes first :)
[05:54] <kylem> haha.
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[06:16] <zul> brb need to reboot
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[06:17] <Mithrandir> kylem: ccache is nice.
[06:40] <jbailey> Mithrandir: I don't think kernel's ccache well, do they?  I thought linux/version.h was included in everything.
[06:41] <jbailey> IIRC, the version changes with every git commit..
[06:42] <kylem> optional
[06:42] <zul> jbailey: they dont ccache well imho
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[07:14] <BanditD> Hi! I have terrible write performance with the Edgy kernel, about 1 MB/s. Hardware is a Acer laptop, SATA disc, lspci shows 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller IDE (rev 02) and 0a:09.2 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments Unknown device 803b. Anyone one idea what I can do? Thanks!
[08:20] <kylem> is DMA enabled?
[08:28] <BanditD> I am not sure:
[08:28] <BanditD> tmm@nbk-wis018:~$ sudo hdparm -d /dev/sda
[08:28] <BanditD> /dev/sda:
[08:28] <BanditD> tmm@nbk-wis018:~$
[08:29] <BanditD> tmm@nbk-wis018:~$ sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/sda
[08:29] <BanditD> /dev/sda:
[08:29] <BanditD>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[08:29] <BanditD>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
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[09:06] <metres> hi guys, Im trying a recompilation of my kernel, but I have problem..., I just installed Edgy on my amd64, I downloaded the source linux-2.6.19 from kernel.org, unpack but when I try make xconfig, I got this response : "ake[1] : *** Pas de rgle pour fabriquer la cible  scripts/kconfig/.tmp_qtcheck , ncessaire pour  scripts/kconfig/qconf.o . Arrt." Do anyone have a clue ?
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[09:31] <BenC> metres: This channel is specific to the ubuntu kernel, not general kernel questions
[09:32] <BenC> metres: Your question would be better asked in #ubuntu
[09:32] <metres> Ok sorry 
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[10:36] <zul> BenC: i figured off an email to jeremy from xensource about paravirt
[10:49] <kylem> there's pretty good indication kvm will be merged for 2.6.20
[11:00] <BenC> kylem: Yeah, I saw the patches to lkml
[11:00] <kylem> BenC, did you see the earlier discussion on that other irc channel? :)
[11:00] <BenC> no, I missed it
[11:21] <jbailey> kylem: Is there any indication that either Xen or VmWare will *use* the kvm?
[11:21] <jbailey> Or is that still too much to hope for? =)
[11:21] <zul> too much to hope for...they are using paravirt
[11:21] <zul> er..paravirt-ops
[11:21] <kylem> from what i can tell, the plan seems to be to evolve kvm.
[11:22] <jbailey> Great.
[11:22] <jbailey> Sounds like how pthreads was developped. =)
[11:22] <kylem> and we all know how that turned out...
[11:24] <zul> later...im heading home