[04:44] <fabbione> morning guys
[05:10] <jb-home> Ho ho Fab-ee-oo!
[05:10] <jb-home> s/oo/oh/
[05:11] <fabbione> eheheh
[05:36] <Dvalin> hoi
[05:36] <Dvalin> fabbione: hoi
[05:36] <fabbione> hey Dvalin 
[05:36] <Dvalin> fabbione: that doko fellow, he isn't much around, is he?
[05:36] <fabbione> Dvalin: he was in holidays
[05:37] <fabbione> i might still be
[05:37] <fabbione> i don't know
[05:37] <Dvalin> okay
[05:37] <Dvalin> maybe I should hall at them tinme :)
[05:37] <Dvalin> how is he btw? Is he leet/arrogant or a nice guy? :)
[05:37] <Dvalin> s
[05:38] <fabbione> nice guy
[05:38] <Dvalin> don't feel like annoying him and get put off :)
[05:38] <Dvalin> okay :)
[05:38] <Dvalin> neat
[05:38] <Dvalin> you think he will help me with my minor toolchain issue? :)
[05:39] <fabbione> i dunno.. you need to talk to him
[05:39] <Dvalin> yup
[05:39] <Dvalin> I weill
[05:39] <Dvalin> I will
[05:39] <Dvalin> I just hope he'll be impatint
[05:40] <Dvalin> always feel retarded asking questions ;p
[05:40] <Dvalin> and I'm used to to gwenole you know... ;)
[05:41] <Dvalin> hard to communicate with people who has only binary asnwqers
[05:41] <Dvalin> and doesn't feel like for more social chitchatter
[05:41] <Dvalin> fabbione: btw. are yougetting 2.6.19* to run on sparc?
[05:42] <fabbione> Dvalin: i think it already does here
[05:42] <Dvalin> okay
[05:42] <fabbione> i didn't have really time to dist upgrade my box
[05:42] <Dvalin> I'm having some major crashed
[05:42] <Dvalin> crashses*
[05:42] <Dvalin> especially due to nfs
[05:42] <Dvalin> when accesing LARGE files
[05:43] <Dvalin>  lemme see I can dig it out of my DMESG
[05:43] <fabbione> Dvalin: do you have more infos like... OOPS or stuff like that?
[05:44] <Dvalin> I have 
[05:44] <Dvalin> but I reborted back to 2.6.19-rc3
[05:44] <Dvalin> If you want I can boot back to 2.6.19-rc6?
[05:45] <jb-home> Dvalin: What sort of toolchain questions do you have?
[05:45] <Dvalin> s/2.6.19-rc3/2.6.17-rc3/
[05:45] <Dvalin> jb-home: what do you mwN
[05:45] <jb-home> Dvalin: Part of the problem is that doko does gcc, binutils, backup on glibc, openoffice and python.
[05:45] <jb-home> So he's *really* busy.
[05:46] <jb-home> But if you have toolchain questions, you might try asking in #ubuntu-toolchain of whoever's around.
[05:46] <Dvalin> YEAH
[05:47] <Dvalin> I'm just puzzled about this sparc-biarch patch
[05:47] <jb-home> What about it?
[05:47] <Dvalin> seems to be dependent of some other
[05:47] <Dvalin> and alsi I want to make it cleain and minimal for our gcc maintainer..
[05:47] <Dvalin> sO I need to find out what it relies on
[05:47] <jb-home> What distro are you submitting the patch to?
[05:48] <Dvalin> (og. bgt, I'm a mandriva employee just for the recorad ;)
[05:48] <jb-home> Ah, cool. =)
[05:48] <jb-home> Are you guys taking on sparc?
[05:48] <Dvalin> well
[05:48] <Dvalin> we have a sparc version at 71.
[05:48] <Dvalin> 76.1
[05:48] <Dvalin> 6.1
[05:49] <Dvalin> bah
[05:49] <Dvalin> 7.1
[05:49] <Dvalin> at the time bobble burst ;)
[05:49] <jb-home> Nice!
[05:49] <jb-home> I didn't know you guys had ever gone there.
[05:49] <Dvalin> but I took up maintainership of it 2004
[05:49] <Dvalin> 2003*
[05:49] <jb-home> Lemme pull the gcc source again, but I haven't looked at that patch in ages.
[05:49] <jb-home> It mostly just sits there and behaves itself. =)
[05:49] <Dvalin> for most fun and educatiional puproses
[05:50] <Dvalin> so mandrivba/soarc has been alikve again since 2004
[05:50] <Dvalin> but it's more of a one-man-show
[05:50] <jb-home> Heh
[05:50] <jb-home> Fair 'nuff.
[05:50] <Dvalin> one novice man
[05:50] <jb-home> Where you're based out of?
[05:50] <Dvalin> ;)'
[05:50] <Dvalin> based out?
[05:50] <jb-home> City/Country.
[05:51] <Dvalin> oh
[05:51] <Dvalin> well
[05:51] <jb-home> I thought Mandriva was in Europe.
[05:51] <jb-home> So you'd be up *really* early.
[05:51] <Dvalin> we have offices in usa, barsil & paris
[05:51] <jb-home> Although I guess Gustavo was in Brazil, and I think he was at Mandriva.
[05:51] <Dvalin> I'm norwegian
[05:51] <Dvalin> i'ts 05:51
[05:51] <Dvalin> ccoun'd fall asleep
[05:51] <jb-home> Y'see, that's just sick.
[05:52] <jb-home> So you're looking at debian/patches/sparc-biarch.dpatch. yes?
[05:52] <Dvalin> yeah... but you knwo.. insomnia + adhd..
[05:52] <Dvalin> yu
[05:53] <Dvalin> does it really on other patches?
[05:53] <Dvalin> I get a lot of error after bootstrapp
[05:54] <Dvalin> any clues?
[05:54] <Dvalin> seems like iit depends on some other patch
[05:54] <jb-home> Oh, hmm.  It looks like sparc/biarch64.h might be upstream now.
[05:54] <Dvalin> okay
[05:54] <jb-home> Aside from that, I don't see what else it would rely on.
[05:54] <Dvalin> could you provide me wit a backport ?:)
[05:55] <Dvalin> also I have to battle our gcc maintainer gwenoleb beauhchesne
[05:55] <Dvalin> very tim eI need to get dsom done
[05:56] <Dvalin> and not that easy considerig he's a robot with thee response: "ye" "no "None" ;
[05:56] <Dvalin> xalthough
[05:56] <Dvalin> he's VERRY skilled
[05:56] <Dvalin> just lascfks a litlle on th empathi side
[05:57] <Dvalin> jb-home: do you know why optimie for v8 ins tead of v9?
[05:58] <jb-home> Should be v8plus, isn't it?
[05:58] <jb-home> Which is still 32-bi.
[05:58] <Dvalin> (J ask you kno, as fabbione will kill me the nesxt time I ask :p)
[05:58] <jb-home> v9 I think implies 64bit in gcc.
[05:58] <Dvalin> yeah
[05:58] <Dvalin> but userland is 32 bit
[05:58] <jb-home> Exactly.
[05:58] <Dvalin> shoulnd't it be v8plus not v8
[05:58] <Dvalin> ?
[05:58] <jb-home> That's what I asked, isn't it v8plus?
[05:58] <Dvalin> ubuntu builds for v8
[05:59] <Dvalin> gcc is set to --with-cpu=v8
[05:59] <Dvalin> keeze me littl pussled
[05:59] <Dvalin> as there's no backport compatibility for v7a
[05:59] <jb-home> Hmm, no idea.
[06:00] <Dvalin> that's jurd word
[06:00] <jb-home> We require 64bit CPUs.
[06:00] <jb-home> So v8plus should be fine.
[06:00] <jb-home> fabbione: Oy, do you remember why we settled on v8?  I thought we'd done v8plus.
[06:00] <Dvalin> it's not
[06:00] <Dvalin> it's v8
[06:00] <fabbione> jb-home: no, that was a discussion between you and davem in which i gave up trying to understand after the second email
[06:01] <jb-home> Heh
[06:01] <Dvalin> I don't see v8 as it's not supported..
[06:01] <jb-home> So I have the answer someone in my email archives.
[06:01] <jb-home> somehwere, even.
[06:01] <jb-home> Tired.
[06:01] <fabbione> jb-home: yes you do :)
[06:02] <Dvalin> well
[06:02] <Dvalin> I build for svarv9 (v88plus)
[06:02] <Dvalin> that DOES make sense, now?
[06:02] <jb-home> v88plus?
[06:03] <Dvalin> yes?
[06:03] <Dvalin> sparv99 m3
[06:03] <jb-home> I havean't encountered that yet.  /me googles.
[06:03] <Dvalin> sparcv8 pluys
[06:03] <Dvalin> v8+
[06:03] <jb-home> http://www.google.com/search?q=v88plus&sa=Google+Search&channel=2PSP
[06:03] <Dvalin> mcpu=ultasparc -m32 = v8+
[06:04] <jb-home> Gets almost no hits.
[06:05] <Dvalin> fabbione: btw. I did took at aurora, really haf-assed;p
[06:40] <fabbione> Dvalin: Linux vultus5 2.6.19-7-sparc64 #2 Wed Nov 29 04:31:26 UTC 2006 sparc64 GNU/Linux
[06:40] <fabbione> boots fine here
[06:40] <fabbione> did you use it as nfs server or client?
[06:41] <Dvalin> I can boot it with msg server gain
[06:41] <Dvalin> on the unstable on
[06:43] <Dvalin> rto be hones
[06:43] <Dvalin> I was gonna play a larger porn over ethernet
[06:43] <Dvalin> t
[06:44] <Dvalin> wehen it all go scked
[06:44] <Dvalin> I envoungter  OPPs'egen more and hte,,
[06:45] <Dvalin> if yolook lie arvhies
[06:45] <Dvalin> youll find it mention
[06:45] <fabbione> dude.. can you try to spell normally?
[06:45] <Dvalin> now let's boot 2.u.29-tv4
[06:45] <fabbione> and just tell me.. was it client or server..
[06:46] <Dvalin> well
[06:46] <Dvalin> I tried playing some pr0nj
[06:46] <Dvalin> from the ser 
[06:46] <Dvalin> to client
[06:46] <Dvalin> with nfs4
[06:46] <fabbione> and the sparc was client or server?
[06:46] <fabbione> you are not answering my question :)
[06:48] <Dvalin> both ar sparcs
[06:48] <Dvalin> oh
[06:48] <Dvalin> no
[06:48] <Dvalin> th server is sparc
[06:48] <Dvalin> client is x8y
[06:48] <fabbione> ok
[06:48] <Dvalin> btw.
[06:48] <Dvalin> what is your adress?
[06:49] <fabbione> fabbione@ubuntu.com ?
[06:49] <Dvalin> no
[06:49] <Dvalin> snailmail
[06:49] <fabbione> merhansizes ?
[06:49] <fabbione> what's this?
[06:49] <Dvalin> I got some mandriva props
[06:50] <Dvalin> if nothing else
[06:50] <Dvalin> yyou can throw it at people ;)
[06:50] <fabbione> nah i don't need Mandriva stuff :)
[06:50] <fabbione> and i am sure you will send me black helicopters
[06:50] <Dvalin> .you do!
[06:51] <Dvalin> they're fcute
[06:51] <Dvalin> stamper and all
[06:51] <Dvalin> it's my christmass present for you!
[06:51] <Dvalin> :D
[06:51] <fabbione> ahah
[06:51] <Dvalin> it's rude to turn down christmas present!
[06:52] <fabbione> i was checking my address.. gimme a break
[06:52] <Dvalin> abd their pute :)
[06:52] <fabbione> do you think i remember my own address?
[06:52] <Dvalin> okay :)
[06:52] <fabbione> i don't go out
[06:52] <fabbione> so i don't need to know it
[06:52] <Dvalin>   hehe
[06:53] <Dvalin> what do you mean?
[06:53] <fabbione> that i am always closed in the house :)
[06:53] <Dvalin> hehe
[06:53] <fabbione> so what's the point of remembering my own address
[06:53] <fabbione> see /msg
[06:56] <Dvalin> =)