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[01:27] <Tonio_> imbrandon: ping ?
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[02:01] <freeflying> moins all
[02:01] <Jucato> moin freeflying
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[08:59] <nixternal> http://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org/stuff/doc/help.png
[08:59] <nixternal> how would something like that look for a main help window for 7.04?
[09:00] <Jucato> looks good. but I thought Riddell didn't want to remove KDE logos and banners?
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[09:01] <Jucato> I like the sidebar :)
[09:01] <nixternal> we were supposed to remove them in Edgy, but the artwork never got done
[09:01] <Jucato> ah
[09:02] <Jucato> I really like it, compared to the default in khelpcenter
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[01:55] <gnomefreak> is it a good idea to get adept to use aptitude instead of apt-get?
[01:56] <gnomefreak> or would it be better just to add a complete removal option?
[01:57] <Jucato> I wouldn't use aptitude by default, since it installs recommends by default
[01:57] <gnomefreak> that is my thinking too
[01:58] <Jucato> apt-get has autoremove, which might match aptitude's handling of metapackages (afaik)
[01:58] <Hobbsee> mind you, apparently apt is supposed to do that too, at some poing
[01:58] <Hobbsee> *point
[01:58] <Jucato> hi Hobbsee
[01:59] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato
[02:00] <gnomefreak> im looking at bug #74045 and i would like to come up with an in between if possible. i havent used adept ina  while so im gonna start it up and see if there is a complete removal option
[02:00] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 74045 in adept "WISHLIST: aptitude-like behaviour for Adept" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/74045
[02:00] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: there is.  it's purge
[02:01] <Jucato> there's a weird behavior that I find weird in Adept regarding purge
[02:01] <Jucato> when I mark a package for purging and it marks other packages for removal because of dependencies, I can't mark those packages to be purged
[02:02] <Jucato> in Synaptic, I could
[02:03] <gnomefreak> Jucato: if its anything like --purge with apt. it will purge all the packages (should atleast)
[02:04] <gnomefreak> im trying to figure out how to open adept atm
[02:04] <Jucato> O.o
[02:05] <Jucato> in aptitude, I have to purge --purge-unused so that other depending packages will also be purged
[02:05] <gnomefreak> it would be nice if the password thing for adept would follow the 15 minute rule
[02:06] <gnomefreak> also listing the packages that are being purged would be a good idea too before it does the action
[02:07] <Jucato> gnomefreak: a better workflow is needed. not just for purging
[02:08] <Jucato> I've read countless of horror stories about people hosing their system because they clicked on Apply Changes without manually checking Preview Changes, and Adept not informing them except through the taskbar and the Preview Changes window
[02:09] <gnomefreak> the problem is that its all upstream, and if they are not intreseted than it will never happen. but i agree some adept changes need to be looked into.
[02:10] <Jucato> yeah... rather unfortunate...
[02:11] <gnomefreak> is this something we need to talk to Riddell about or does he already know this and i am like the 300th person to say it?
[02:11] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: you around?
[02:12] <Jucato> too early :)
[02:12] <gnomefreak> oh
[02:12] <gnomefreak> thats right hes out near texas or in it
[02:12] <Jucato> CST
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[02:41] <Tonio_> hey
[02:41] <Jucato> hi Tonio_
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[03:17] <fdoving> hi tonio_.
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[03:42] <abattoir> anyone here knows where kubuntu t-shirts/merchandise can be found?
[03:42] <abattoir> apart from http://www.kubuntu.de/shop/catalog/index.php?cPath=30 ?
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[03:44] <Jucato> ooh there are Kubuntu shirts?
[03:44] <abattoir> sure, don't remember Riddell wearing one for one of the knot releases? :)
[03:44] <Jucato> I thought it was kustom made
[03:45] <abattoir> i remember something about kubuntu-de
[03:45] <imbrandon> abattoir: Riddell has them for sale
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[03:45] <abattoir> imbrandon: someone at #ubuntu-freshers wants to know
[03:46] <abattoir> i gave him/her the link for the ubuntu one, as it was easy to find...
[03:46] <Jucato> btw, hi imbrandon! :)
[03:46] <abattoir> yeah, hi imbrandon too :P
[03:48] <imbrandon> hello
[03:48] <freeflying_> imbrandon: Riddell has? :)
[03:48] <freeflying_> hi all
[03:49] <abattoir> hello freeflying_
[03:50] <freeflying_> abattoir: hey
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[04:44] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: I am now, what's up ?
[04:45] <Jucato> lol! Adept Manager has 2 "Manage Repositories" entries
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[07:59] <seele> does anyone know if jono bacon is on irc (and what his /nick is)?
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[08:03] <mhb> jono, not here atm
[08:06] <seele> anyone know his email?
[08:06] <mhb> jono@ubuntu.com?
[08:06] <seele> ah, yeah.. he has it on his website
[08:07] <mhb> you could have checked https://launchpad.net/people/jonobacon
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[08:09] <seele> i guess, but this was much faster ;)
[08:09] <seele> did you get a chance to read through the grub article and comments?
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[08:29] <mhb> seele: yes
[08:29] <mhb> seele: I'll comment it later today
[08:29] <gnomefreak> when are we expecting the herd images to hit?
[08:29] <seele> ok, no worries.. i just wanted to make sure you were aware of the feedback
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[09:40] <jdong> nixternal: is konversation 1.0.1 really feisty herd1 news? it's in Edgy...
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[09:55] <fdoving> anyone working on fixing the broken kpdf we ship?
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[10:39] <fdoving> hmm.. why is the poppler patch better than the real xpdf-sources in kpdf?
[10:53] <nixternal> jdong: it should have been removed
[10:59] <nixternal> jdong: removed ;) thanks for reminding me on that (the release is very thin - please add to it if I missed stuff)
[11:00] <jdong> nixternal: sure thing, I must admit I havent' really tracked Feisty on the kubuntu or ubuntu cycle lately.... :-/
[11:00] <nixternal> me either ;(
[11:01] <nixternal> need to get ktorrent 2.1 ready ;)
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[12:11] <ryanakca> I assume feisty won't have the 2.6.19 kernel?
[12:12] <ryanakca> and that grumpy groundhog (or whatever) will have it?