lifeless | 2) yes. | 12:06 |
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lifeless | 3) I've triaged far to many in the past for products, but not done specific triaging within ubuntu... hmm | 12:08 |
lifeless | hangon, apport and hwddb I did some cleanup on | 12:08 |
Kaleo | sfllaw: I would like to apply for ubuntu-qa. | 12:09 |
sfllaw | Kaleo: OK. You just have to answer three questions: | 12:09 |
sfllaw | 1. Do you promise to be polite to bug reporters, even if you don't think they deserve it? | 12:10 |
sfllaw | 2. Have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance? | 12:10 |
sfllaw | 3. Can you show me some bugs you've triaged? | 12:10 |
Kaleo | 1. yes | 12:10 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #73989 in gftp (main) "gftp randomly crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73989 | 12:10 |
Kaleo | 2. I am doing this now | 12:10 |
Kaleo | 3. Let me see | 12:11 |
lifeless | https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/hwdb-client/+bug/30910 | 12:11 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 30910 in hwdb-client "Hardware Database not browseable" [Medium,Unconfirmed] | 12:11 |
lifeless | sortof-triaged | 12:11 |
Kaleo | 2. done | 12:12 |
lifeless | https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/hwdb-client/+bug/17595 | 12:12 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 17595 in hwdb-client "failure to parse xorg output leads to a hung gui." [Medium,Needs info] | 12:12 |
lifeless | found duplicates for this and isolated the failure | 12:12 |
sfllaw | lifeless: All right. You're in. | 12:14 |
sfllaw | Let me hit the right button. | 12:14 |
lifeless | thank you | 12:14 |
Kaleo | I do not know | 12:16 |
Kaleo | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/3647 | 12:16 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 3647 in totem ""On Top" menu bug" [Unknown,Confirmed] | 12:16 |
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Adri2000 | sfllaw: I would like to be part of ubuntu-qa too :) | 12:18 |
sfllaw | Adri2000: Hurray! 3 questions. | 12:18 |
sfllaw | Ready? | 12:18 |
sfllaw | 1. Do you promise to be polite to bug reporters, even if you don't think they deserve it? | 12:18 |
sfllaw | 2. Have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance? | 12:18 |
sfllaw | 3. Can you show me some bugs you've triaged? | 12:18 |
Kaleo | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/33387 | 12:18 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 33387 in linux-source-2.6.15 "Creative webcam plus driver does not work." [Medium,Confirmed] | 12:18 |
Adri2000 | 1. Of course :) | 12:18 |
Adri2000 | 2. Yes | 12:18 |
Kaleo | sfllaw: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/33387 | 12:19 |
Adri2000 | 3. today in the package lopster: bug 32449 64340 73938 (and https://bugs.launchpad.net/people/adri2000/+karma) | 12:19 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 32449 in lopster "1.2.0 is an obsolete version" [Wishlist,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/32449 | 12:19 |
lifeless | sfllaw: is there a canned 'untriaged bugs' search ? | 12:19 |
sfllaw | lifeless: Ugh. No. We've asked LP. | 12:20 |
sfllaw | You can find one in the UbuntuHugDay page, I think. | 12:20 |
lifeless | sfllaw: yes, but can we do one with advanced ? | 12:20 |
sfllaw | Yes. | 12:20 |
sfllaw | There's a URL on the wiki page about it. | 12:20 |
sfllaw | I've bookmarked it myself. | 12:20 |
lifeless | this should be on HowToTriage | 12:20 |
Adri2000 | sfllaw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/lopster/+bugs and "All bugs ever reported" | 12:20 |
sfllaw | lifeless: True. | 12:21 |
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sfllaw | Kaleo: When you set bugs to Needs Info, can you assign them to yourself? | 12:21 |
sfllaw | And when you set them to Confirmed, assign them to Nobody? | 12:22 |
Adri2000 | sfllaw: I heard of that, it's a new rule? | 12:22 |
sfllaw | Yeah. | 12:23 |
Adri2000 | ok | 12:23 |
Kaleo | sfllaw: ok | 12:23 |
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Kaleo | it makes sense | 12:23 |
Adri2000 | sfllaw: tell me if I can join the team on launchpad | 12:23 |
sfllaw | Kaleo: All right, I will approve you. | 12:24 |
sfllaw | Adri2000: Looking through LP now. | 12:24 |
Kaleo | sfllaw: thank you, you are kind. | 12:24 |
lifeless | sfllaw: on the page now | 12:24 |
sfllaw | lifeless: Hmm, I noticed that. | 12:25 |
sfllaw | lifeless: Please tell me when you're done. | 12:25 |
lifeless | sfllaw: I mean 'I'm done, its on the page now' | 12:25 |
sfllaw | lifeless: I just realized that HowToTriage doesn't reflect the Assignee policy. | 12:25 |
sfllaw | Ah. | 12:25 |
lifeless | sfllaw: ok, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/bzr/+bug/50290 is already fixed in edgy | 12:26 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 50290 in bzr "Creating a branch in a repository chews up huge amounts of memory" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 12:26 |
lifeless | sfllaw: dapper is also fixed I think, via dapper updates | 12:26 |
lifeless | sfllaw: how would you choose to reflect this? fix released, with a comment ? | 12:26 |
coNP | I am a newbie, so can I confirm a bug report if I think it has been confirmed? | 12:27 |
coNP | in fact it seems to be confirmed by many users, only that the status is still unconfirmed | 12:28 |
lifeless | coNP: when asking for advice, please quote the bug #. I.e. bug 1234 | 12:28 |
Ubugtu | Bug 1234 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/1234 is private | 12:28 |
lifeless | coNP: that will let folk that want to advise look at the relevant data :) | 12:28 |
coNP | is it that nobody wanted to change the status for some reason, or that no one "dared" to set it unconfirmed | 12:28 |
Admiral_Chicago | coNP: tunfortunetly it us up to the Bug QA team to do that | 12:28 |
Admiral_Chicago | least it in a duplicate or something like that | 12:29 |
lifeless | coNP: we dont know. Whats the bug #? | 12:29 |
coNP | https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openbox/+bug/60210 | 12:29 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 60210 in openbox "Missing libobrender.so.1/libobparser.so.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 12:29 |
coNP | okay, than I misunderstood sfllaw in the afternoon | 12:29 |
lifeless | Admiral_Chicago: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage says anyone can confirm | 12:30 |
lifeless | coNP: I dont think you misunderstood | 12:30 |
coNP | okay, then I was right :) | 12:30 |
Admiral_Chicago | lifeless: let me look i don't remember seeing that but i'll check | 12:30 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #73990 in xorg-server (main) "Xnest recommends using a universe package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73990 | 12:31 |
sfllaw | Well, it says "you can Confirm" | 12:31 |
sfllaw | Which is a pretty inclusive you. | 12:31 |
sfllaw | I figure if you can read this page, that's you. | 12:31 |
coNP | so what do you think, is there a special reason not to confirm it? | 12:31 |
coNP | because I was surprised to see as many comments at a bug that is not confirmed | 12:32 |
sfllaw | coNP: Hmm. Do you know what openbox is? | 12:32 |
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coNP | sfllaw: of course, I use it daily | 12:32 |
Admiral_Chicago | coNP: check where it shows the package name, click it, there should be a drop down menu | 12:32 |
coNP | it is an X window manager | 12:32 |
sfllaw | coNP: Does it break without these libraries? | 12:33 |
coNP | Admiral_Chicago: I know how to do it :) | 12:33 |
coNP | sfllaw: yes, all comments are true and useful | 12:33 |
Admiral_Chicago | coNP: and you can't? | 12:33 |
coNP | Admiral_Chicago: I can, but I was wandering if I _should_ | 12:33 |
sfllaw | coNP: I'm a little shocked that a non lib* package has shared libraries in it. | 12:34 |
sfllaw | coNP: But it seems to be a valid bug. | 12:34 |
Admiral_Chicago | sfllaw: you think it's a good idea? | 12:34 |
coNP | actually openbox does not need these libraries | 12:34 |
coNP | only obconf that is a configuration tool for it | 12:34 |
coNP | and a separate package | 12:34 |
sfllaw | coNP: I'd say change the bug report's description. | 12:35 |
sfllaw | Say that libobrender.so.1 and libobparser.so.1 aren't shipped any more in a package. | 12:35 |
sfllaw | And that a separate libopenbox package should be created for these shared libraries. | 12:35 |
sfllaw | Then obconf can depend on libopenbox. | 12:35 |
sfllaw | http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/libpkg-guide.html | 12:36 |
lifeless | sfllaw: I think you are wrong :) | 12:36 |
sfllaw | lifeless: Really? | 12:36 |
lifeless | yes | 12:36 |
sfllaw | lifeless: Fair enough. | 12:36 |
lifeless | /usr/lib/ called libobrender.so.0.4.0 and libobparser.so.0.4.0 whick acc. to dpkg -S are installed by openbox package. | 12:36 |
lifeless | from near the top | 12:36 |
sfllaw | Oh. | 12:37 |
sfllaw | It's just symlinks. | 12:37 |
lifeless | I'm thinking a rebuild is needed | 12:37 |
sfllaw | Boy do I feel dumb. | 12:37 |
sfllaw | Yeah, it's likely a packaging bug. | 12:37 |
lifeless | coNP: definately confirm this | 12:37 |
lifeless | coNP: as you note - there are people confirming it | 12:37 |
sfllaw | And it is a complete bug report. | 12:37 |
sfllaw | Albeit difficult to read. | 12:37 |
coNP | yes, therefore was I _shocked_ why it has not been confirmed yet | 12:37 |
sfllaw | coNP: That's why we're glad you're here! | 12:38 |
sfllaw | :) | 12:38 |
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lifeless | coNP: I would try to update the description to be more clear - the packaging appears to be faulty, and it needs a packager to look at it. | 12:38 |
lifeless | coNP: this means it is not an upstream bug, its a bug in ubuntu specifically | 12:38 |
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lifeless | sfllaw: so my question was, bug 50290 is fixed upstream, and the fixed package is in edgy for sure | 12:39 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 50290 in bzr "Creating a branch in a repository chews up huge amounts of memory" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/50290 | 12:39 |
lifeless | sfllaw: whats the protocol to close bugs ? | 12:39 |
sfllaw | If it's in Edgy, it's Fix Released. | 12:40 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #73435 in xchat (universe) "unexpected quit" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73435 | 12:41 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #73991 in Ubuntu "Belkin USB 4 Port Hub F5U021 : Failure to mount Lexar Thumbdrive (and perhaps any other usb device?)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73991 | 12:41 |
sfllaw | The protocol to close bugs for non-triagers is poorly defined. | 12:41 |
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Adri2000 | sfllaw: looked at my triaged bugs? | 12:46 |
lifeless | sfllaw: ok, so fix released, dont touch milestone, just a comment ? | 12:47 |
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sfllaw | lifeless: Yes. There's no need to touch any of the other stuff. | 12:51 |
lifeless | thanks | 12:51 |
sfllaw | Adri2000: You're good. | 12:51 |
lifeless | sfllaw: bug 50339 | 12:51 |
Ubugtu | Bug 50339 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/50339 is private | 12:51 |
lifeless | sfllaw: can you see that? its got no subscribers other than the reporter. | 12:51 |
sfllaw | lifeless: You're going to have to subscribe me to that one. | 12:51 |
Adri2000 | sfllaw: ok, I have just joined the team | 12:52 |
lifeless | sfllaw: hmm. I'll take this to #launchpad. I think its a glitch | 12:52 |
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sfllaw | lifeless: The UI could have let someone do that. | 12:52 |
lifeless | but its a black hole. | 12:52 |
lifeless | so we need to prevent this | 12:52 |
Adri2000 | sfllaw: thanks! :) | 12:54 |
sfllaw | OK. Dinner time. | 01:01 |
lifeless | sfllaw: you should get people to promise to triage 1 bug a day :) | 01:02 |
lifeless | 4) Will you triage 1 bug a day ? | 01:02 |
sfllaw | lifeless: People would unconsciously lie. | 01:03 |
lifeless | true enough | 01:03 |
lifeless | then perhaps we can encourage 'a bug a day' | 01:04 |
crimsun | does that then mean that if people consistently don't triage one per day then they get evicted? | 01:04 |
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sfllaw | ajmitch: Off with your head! | 01:04 |
sfllaw | :) | 01:04 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #73993 in Ubuntu "Galaxy Screen Saver Reboot System Automatically" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73993 | 01:30 |
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a7p | what do you think about this one: #1725 it's over a year old and nothing was ever done about it (and I think there never will be ... proper network-anonymity should be handled another way). | 01:48 |
a7p | generally what about all the things maked as "Whishlist" for over a year? | 01:51 |
a7p | with no reply ever ... | 01:51 |
coNP | if there is a bug reported more than once, which should become the duplicate? | 01:53 |
coNP | the one that has been reported first should be left? | 01:54 |
tarheelcoxn | or the more complete one, the one with better notes | 01:56 |
coNP | yes that is the question... :) | 01:56 |
coNP | so you say, tarheelcoxn, it is up to me? | 01:56 |
a7p | coNP, it is. | 01:57 |
tarheelcoxn | the better one. mark the one that's not as complete as a duplicate of the better one | 01:57 |
coNP | okay, thanks both a7p & tarheelcoxn | 01:57 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #73994 in drgeo (universe) "Crash report" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73994 | 02:01 |
a7p | mmm ... why can't I find the package sane-backends-extras via apt-cache search ? It seems to exist in the bugtracker, but I also can not find it via packages.ubuntu.com ... what does that mean? | 02:08 |
a7p | ah, it is a source-package which generates libsane-extras ... | 02:11 |
a7p | quit confusing | 02:11 |
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coNP | I did a mistake | 02:32 |
coNP | I added a wrong distribution link to bug #59305 | 02:32 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 59305 in tilda "problem with specifying size as a percentage" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59305 | 02:32 |
coNP | how could I remove it? | 02:32 |
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crimsun | coNP: you can't. You can reject it, and add the correct distribution, however. | 02:33 |
coNP | crimsun: thanks | 02:34 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #73995 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "Banshee Web resource help links fail to load if browser not open" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73995 | 02:45 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #73996 in gaim (main) "crash report" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73996 | 03:00 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #73997 in firefox (main) "Windows Live Mail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73997 | 03:05 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #73998 in Ubuntu "Open Office word crashes when copying and pasting text into gaim chat." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73998 | 03:05 |
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yamal | no less than 18 dupes and still people keep reporting it anew | 03:13 |
Admiral_Chicago | yamal: the OO crash? | 03:15 |
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yamal | yup | 03:19 |
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Admiral_Chicago | i'll keep it in mind if i see it | 03:20 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #73999 in gksu (main) "Crashes. Spawned by update-manager. Possible interaction issue with synergy." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73999 | 03:26 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74000 in control-center (main) "crashes when I change gnome theme" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74000 | 03:35 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74002 in file-roller (main) "[Feisty] File Roller's "Extract" button no longer functions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74002 | 04:20 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74003 in Ubuntu "Kernel Panic --Edgy-- unable to mount root fs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74003 | 04:40 |
towsonu2003 | I truly hate searching for bugs in launchpad... can never find what I'm looking for, even if it's among the ones I'm subscribed too... | 04:45 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74004 in initramfs-tools (main) "Doesn't include qla2xxx firmware" [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74004 | 05:10 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74005 in viewcvs (universe) "viewcvs should require python-subversion" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74005 | 05:30 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74006 in xserver-kdrive (universe) "Cap lock key stuck in cap lock" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74006 | 05:30 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74007 in gnome-media (main) "volume control not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74007 | 06:31 |
yamal | what to do with a bug without subscribers? even the initial reporter isn't subscribed (anymore?) | 06:50 |
crimsun | which? | 06:50 |
yamal | crimsun: Bug #62042 | 06:53 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 62042 in openoffice.org "OPenoffice malfunctioning with SCIM" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62042 | 06:53 |
crimsun | yamal: technically at least three groups are notified still | 06:55 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74008 in compiz (universe) "Taking screenshots of the invidual window fails to capture window decorators" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74008 | 06:55 |
yamal | yeah that's true | 06:55 |
yamal | though even very basic info requested just after it was filed is still missing never to be added :/ | 06:58 |
towsonu2003 | how do you debug program hangs? | 06:58 |
towsonu2003 | I mean if this was a crash, you'd use gdb | 06:59 |
towsonu2003 | what do you use for hangs? | 06:59 |
towsonu2003 | anyone? | 07:01 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74009 in Ubuntu "Kernel panic after "Initializing /dev" during startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74009 | 07:15 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #68937 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice opens files read-only fromn nfs mounted partition" [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68937 | 07:25 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74010 in xmms (main) "xmms still has debian logo" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74010 | 07:35 |
towsonu2003 | you cant make fun of bug 74010 while I'm here can you :Pp | 07:47 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 74010 in xmms "xmms still has debian logo" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74010 | 07:47 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74012 in compiz (universe) "Compiz crashes with two X-screens" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74012 | 07:56 |
dholbach | good morning | 07:56 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74013 in initramfs-tools (main) "Wrong grep switch in all_generic_ide" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74013 | 08:11 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74014 in initramfs-tools (main) "scripts/init-top/all_generic_ide uses wrong call to grep" [High,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74014 | 08:15 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74016 in im-switch (main) "[Sync request] Sync im-switch-1.13 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74016 | 08:25 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74018 in initramfs-tools (main) "2.6.19 panics on boot in vmware" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74018 | 08:40 |
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Cieffe | can i reject this bug 61683? | 08:43 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 61683 in rhythmbox "Error loading files : not an audio stream" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61683 | 08:43 |
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Cieffe | the report is old and it seems to be caused by the absence of gstreamer-ugly | 08:44 |
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dfarning | I am triaging a bug #68538 that was files against firefox, Got some info back from reported that leads me to believe that it is a blackdown bug | 09:04 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 68538 in firefox "When visiting www.map24.com Firefox starts hanging permanently after a few seconds." [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68538 | 09:04 |
dfarning | how do I move it? | 09:04 |
dholbach | click on the 'firefox' in the yellow bar in the middle | 09:05 |
dholbach | and replace firefox with blackdown | 09:05 |
dfarning | man, I was looking for something more complicated;) | 09:06 |
dfarning | thanks | 09:06 |
dholbach | I'm sure you can do it in a more complicated way :-) | 09:06 |
dholbach | anytime :) | 09:06 |
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dholbach | hmmmmm, nothing like bug triage in the morning | 09:14 |
cypher1 | dholbach: hi | 09:14 |
cypher1 | dholbach: how are you | 09:14 |
dholbach | hey cypher1 | 09:14 |
dholbach | good good - how are you? | 09:14 |
cypher1 | dholbach: fine too thanks | 09:14 |
cypher1 | dholbach: december started :) | 09:15 |
dholbach | yeah | 09:15 |
Cieffe | can i reject this bug 61683? | 09:15 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 61683 in rhythmbox "Error loading files : not an audio stream" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61683 | 09:15 |
Cieffe | the report is old and it seems to be caused by the absence of gstreamer-ugly | 09:15 |
dholbach | I looked forward to the 1st of december for two weeks now :-) | 09:15 |
cypher1 | dholbach: :-) | 09:15 |
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dholbach | Cieffe: good catch - close it | 09:15 |
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Ubugtu | Malone bug 74007 in gnome-media "volume control not working" [Medium,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74007 | 09:16 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 65822 in gnome-media "gnome-volume-control crashed" [Unknown,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65822 | 09:16 |
dholbach | cypher1: I'm going to play in a club nearby tonight - that's what I've been looking forward to :-) | 09:16 |
cypher1 | play means ? | 09:17 |
dholbach | play records | 09:18 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74020 in xorg (main) "computer freezes when starting glxgears" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74020 | 09:21 |
Cieffe | today i close or commented some bug report in rythmbox | 09:21 |
dholbach | Cieffe: I noticed - good work on those! | 09:21 |
Cieffe | There are still 3 report with status unconfirmed/undecided that i don't know how to handle | 09:21 |
Cieffe | dholbach: can you help me on this? | 09:21 |
Cieffe | dholbach: thanks! :) | 09:22 |
dholbach | Cieffe: which ones are those? | 09:22 |
dholbach | I'll try | 09:22 |
Cieffe | bug 66924 | 09:22 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 66924 in rhythmbox "behaves poorly when a previous instance has frozen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66924 | 09:22 |
Cieffe | maybe i should only ask if the problem is still present? | 09:23 |
dholbach | Yeah, ask if he could try with Edgy or Feisty and you could probably forward it as a suggestion upstream | 09:23 |
dholbach | and probably ask for a rhythmbox -d log | 09:24 |
dholbach | also a backtrace might be useful to find out why the existing instance is hanging | 09:24 |
dholbach | (if so) | 09:24 |
dholbach | gdb -p $(pidof rhythmbox) | 09:24 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74021 in xorg (main) "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg's monitor test freezes computer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74021 | 09:25 |
Cieffe | ok i'm going to ask if the problme is still present, if so i ask for other info | 09:25 |
Cieffe | other bug 66810 | 09:26 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 66810 in rhythmbox "Likes to crash shortly after startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66810 | 09:26 |
dholbach | Cieffe: the backtrace indicates that there's something wrong with gnome-vfs | 09:30 |
dholbach | it's not clear what rhythmbox was trying to do, so a -d log might help also | 09:31 |
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dholbach | I'm just doing some searches on the upstream bugzilla | 09:32 |
dholbach | often it's enough to search for a function name in one of the comments in the upstream tracker | 09:33 |
dholbach | http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=gnome_vfs_uri_unref&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_cont | 09:34 |
dholbach | act2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= | 09:34 |
dholbach | oops | 09:34 |
dholbach | http://tinyurl.com/yhg3u5 | 09:34 |
dholbach | http://tinyurl.com/yfnp53 | 09:35 |
dholbach | those two might help | 09:35 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74022 in dovecot (main) "vpopmail support not compiled into dovecot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74022 | 09:35 |
dholbach | http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366346 looks like a good candidate | 09:35 |
Ubugtu | Gnome bug 366346 in general "crash in Rhythmbox Music Player: loading music into the p..." [Critical,Needinfo] | 09:35 |
dholbach | it has some duplicates already and it was asked for a debug backtrace | 09:36 |
dholbach | the one in bug 66810 looks quite good | 09:36 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 66810 in rhythmbox "Likes to crash shortly after startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66810 | 09:36 |
dholbach | so it'd be good to follow up on the upstream bug with more information and link the two bugs | 09:36 |
dholbach | (mention the malone url upstream and add a bugwatch for the upstream bug in malone) | 09:36 |
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dholbach | Cieffe: does that help? | 09:39 |
dholbach | hey pradeep | 09:39 |
pradeep | hello dholbach :) | 09:39 |
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Cieffe | dholbach: should i ask for rhythmbox -d anyway? only last X line or all the log? ( X=?) :) | 09:39 |
dholbach | rhythmbox -d 2>log.txt | 09:40 |
dholbach | if it crashes at startup it shouldn't be that long | 09:40 |
Cieffe | dholbach: yes, i understand, i'm going to do and then you will check :) | 09:40 |
Cieffe | thanls | 09:40 |
Cieffe | *thanks | 09:40 |
dholbach | de rien | 09:40 |
dholbach | thanks for working on them | 09:40 |
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pradeep | dholbach, quick question: What is the -dbg package for eog(Eye of Gnome)? | 09:41 |
Admiral_Chicago | dholbach: you speak french? | 09:41 |
dholbach | pradeep: in which version of ubuntu? | 09:41 |
dholbach | Admiral_Chicago: seulement un peu :-) | 09:41 |
Admiral_Chicago | moi aussie | 09:41 |
dholbach | but seb128 always makes fun of me | 09:42 |
Admiral_Chicago | so you speak three languages then? | 09:42 |
pradeep | dholbach, edgy and feisty. I noticed a bug and i want to generate a trace. | 09:42 |
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dholbach | he said something along the lines of "did you translate that with babelfish? it makes no sense" | 09:42 |
Admiral_Chicago | ah i tried to help out on the kubuntu forums in french | 09:42 |
Admiral_Chicago | i remember that | 09:42 |
dholbach | pradeep: enable pitti's repository (explained in http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash) and it should be eog-dbgsym | 09:43 |
dholbach | hey mvo | 09:43 |
dholbach | i'm not good at french, and I tried to learn other languages as well, but didn't have enough people to talk to on a day-to-day basis, so I gave up again :) | 09:43 |
mvo | hey dholbach! | 09:44 |
Admiral_Chicago | well i studied it four years in school, but i don't practice ever | 09:44 |
Admiral_Chicago | talk to raphael pinso | 09:45 |
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pradeep | thanks dholbach ! :) | 09:47 |
Cieffe | moi aussi, j'ai etudie le francais a l'ecole :) | 09:49 |
Cieffe | dholbach: done, can you check bug 66810 | 09:50 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 66810 in rhythmbox "Likes to crash shortly after startup" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66810 | 09:50 |
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Cieffe | there is only one, bug 63143, undecided for rhytmbox now :) | 09:52 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 63143 in rhythmbox "problems with rhythmbox and xubuntu 6.06" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/63143 | 09:52 |
Admiral_Chicago | je parle francais seulement quand je vuex parle avec mes amis en prive | 09:52 |
Admiral_Chicago | i can't do accent marks... | 09:52 |
Cieffe | Admiral_Chicago: me too | 09:52 |
Cieffe | It's the only thing i can say, and I'm not sure it's right :P | 09:53 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74023 in Fedora (universe) "Xorg does not start in dom0 with i810 driver" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74023 | 10:00 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74024 in ubiquity (main) "Attempting to re-install Ubuntu 6.06 after a failed "upgrade" of Xubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74024 | 10:15 |
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seb128 | dholbach is back to bug triage, waouh :) | 10:23 |
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Admiral_Chicago | dholbach: your email wasn't translated by babelfish, a lot easier to understand :P | 10:24 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #71770 in ubiquity (main) "Unable to install Ubuntu 6.06 in HP Pavillion dv1325" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71770 | 10:36 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #71809 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed - "Install failed with exit code 1"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71809 | 10:36 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #73523 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73523 | 10:36 |
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Cieffe | seb128: i just see your comment | 10:39 |
Cieffe | thanks | 10:39 |
seb128 | hi Cieffe | 10:39 |
seb128 | thank *you* for bug triaging ;) | 10:39 |
Cieffe | I agree with you for bug 56557 | 10:39 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 56557 in rhythmbox "Queued songs are shuffled when shutting down and restarting" [Medium,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56557 | 10:39 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #71633 in ubiquity (main) "Installed crashed, line 696 gtkui.py" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71633 | 10:41 |
Cieffe | and also for bug 59703 | 10:41 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 59703 in rhythmbox "Import freezes/rhythmbox doesn't exit properly if a wmv file is in the watched directory" [Medium,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59703 | 10:41 |
Cieffe | but it's ok to reject bug 33112? | 10:42 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 33112 in rhythmbox "[Dapper] Rhythmbox does not play mp3's" [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/33112 | 10:42 |
seb128 | Cieffe: it is, that's why I didn't change it ;) | 10:44 |
seb128 | Cieffe: good work! | 10:44 |
Cieffe | i'm raising more problem than trying to help :) | 10:44 |
Cieffe | it should be | 10:45 |
Cieffe | i'm raising more problem than solution trying to help :) | 10:45 |
DarkMageZ | maybe there is a better solution to 33112. back in the old days of windows, i think i recall a feature where if the media player couldn't play a file due to missing codecs. it would try and find the codec (always failed tho :P). maybe ubuntu's rhythmbox could advice the user that it found mp3 files during the scan and give them some advice? | 10:47 |
Cieffe | seb128: and why you assigned this bug 61683 to ubuntu desktop if it was rejected? | 10:47 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 61683 in rhythmbox "Error loading files : not an audio stream" [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61683 | 10:47 |
seb128 | Cieffe: why did you unassign it? ;) | 10:48 |
seb128 | DarkMageZ: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyCodecInstallation | 10:48 |
Cieffe | DarkMageZ: as far as i know there is a spec already write for this | 10:49 |
Cieffe | seb128: because if rejected it shouldn't be assigned | 10:49 |
seb128 | why not? | 10:49 |
Cieffe | but of course i'm wrong :) | 10:49 |
seb128 | the team is still responsive for it | 10:49 |
seb128 | and if the submitter disagree and comment the team gets the mails for sure then | 10:50 |
Cieffe | i think reject == not a bug => no one should resolve it => no one should have it assigned | 10:50 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74026 in libapt-front (main) "apt-index-watcher watch results in segfault" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74026 | 10:50 |
Admiral_Chicago | i don't suppose either of you gents know the license RSS uses? | 10:50 |
seb128 | rejected = not listed, not in the way | 10:50 |
Cieffe | your last line is very clear :) | 10:50 |
seb128 | but still, if the submitter has extra comments somebody should read them | 10:50 |
Cieffe | i understand | 10:51 |
Cieffe | thanks | 10:51 |
seb128 | np | 10:51 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #71940 in ubiquity (main) "I can't install my ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71940 | 10:55 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74027 in gutenprint (main) "WISHLIST: Upgrade gutenprint to the CVS version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74027 | 10:55 |
dholbach | hehe Admiral_Chicago | 10:56 |
dholbach | hey seb128 | 10:56 |
seb128 | dholbach: Alter! | 10:56 |
Admiral_Chicago | i don't think the idea of RSS has a license | 10:56 |
seb128 | morning ;) | 10:56 |
dholbach | Alter | 10:56 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74028 in scummvm (universe) "version 0.9.1 is already in Debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74028 | 11:00 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #71592 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71592 | 11:05 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #71945 in Ubuntu "HP Laserjet 1020 gets detected but doesn't work." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71945 | 11:10 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74029 in slocate (main) "updatedb scans /mnt (hence /mnt/hgfs) by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74029 | 11:10 |
a7p | in #25226 someone complains about his CPU freqency not automatically beeing adjusted (in dapper). He changed some stuff and now it works like he wants it to - I've got absolutly no idea how to handle this bug. (personally I think it should be rejected, for cpu-scaling is handled diffently in edgy and with the feedback the user gives it is not possible to find a potential powernowd bug). | 11:12 |
seb128 | bug #25226 | 11:17 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 25226 in laptop-mode "laptop-mode does not twiddle CPU frequency" [Medium,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/25226 | 11:17 |
seb128 | a7p: looks like a request to get the default config adapted then, he should not have to change the config to get it working | 11:18 |
seb128 | maybe confirming as a wishlist? | 11:18 |
seb128 | or reject if that's not revelant to edgy | 11:19 |
seb128 | I don't know enough about cpu-scaling to have a clear opinion about that one | 11:19 |
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a7p | seb128, It seem cpu scalling principially works for him ... normally powernowd does nothing else but setting the CPU-Frequency explicitly. And setting it manually seems to work for him ... | 11:33 |
a7p | okay, I will reject it - since wishlisting is inadequat - fullfilling whould be a step back from where edgy is. | 11:34 |
seb128 | ok | 11:34 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74030 in firefox (main) "firefox crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74030 | 11:46 |
dholbach | Cieffe: good work | 11:58 |
seb128 | pfiou | 12:01 |
dholbach | seb128: hm? | 12:01 |
seb128 | I've cleaned most of the desktop-bugs crasher which were "Need Info" | 12:02 |
seb128 | I'm reaching saturation on reading them | 12:02 |
seb128 | time to do something else :p | 12:02 |
dholbach | packaged new g-s-t | 12:03 |
dholbach | + s-t-b + liboobs :) | 12:03 |
seb128 | 115 to 63 | 12:03 |
dholbach | make the a11y team happy and package lsr | 12:03 |
seb128 | dholbach: you packaged the new gst? | 12:04 |
dholbach | nope | 12:04 |
dholbach | sorry s/packaged/package | 12:04 |
dholbach | ! | 12:04 |
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dholbach | it was a suggestion to do something else | 12:04 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #68881 in gnome-panel (main) "Crash when right clicking on the window-list applet" [Unknown,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68881 | 12:05 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #69261 in gaim (main) "Crashes when recieved message" [Medium,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/69261 | 12:05 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #69394 in gnome-panel (main) "[edgy] gnome-panel crash suddenly when i load a new window for firefox.." [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/69394 | 12:05 |
Admiral_Chicago | dholbach: want to help me set up a planet? | 12:05 |
seb128 | dholbach: I didn't notice there was a new g-s-t, I would be happy to do the update :) | 12:05 |
Admiral_Chicago | in reality i have one question really | 12:05 |
dholbach | Admiral_Chicago: I never did that | 12:06 |
dholbach | seb128: enjoy | 12:06 |
seb128 | thank you | 12:06 |
Admiral_Chicago | neither have I :( | 12:06 |
seb128 | I too the Need Info list matching crash from 115 to 61 | 12:06 |
dholbach | seb128: what about the new evoluition? | 12:06 |
seb128 | good enough for a morning ;) | 12:06 |
jonh_wendell | seb128, what do you mean with "i've cleaned"? marked all rejected? | 12:06 |
seb128 | dholbach: they are waiting in the freeze limb somewhere | 12:06 |
seb128 | dholbach: I've uploaded it yesterday | 12:07 |
dholbach | cool | 12:07 |
seb128 | jonh_wendell: most of them | 12:07 |
jonh_wendell | wow | 12:07 |
seb128 | reopened and reassigned some | 12:07 |
dholbach | gnumeric is there also, but I'd like the xubuntu folks to do it | 12:07 |
jonh_wendell | can i do that too? :) | 12:07 |
dholbach | and I'll merge the new gthumb soon also | 12:07 |
seb128 | Need Info for over 1 month and no reply | 12:07 |
seb128 | jonh_wendell: sure, Need Info bugs without infos are not useful | 12:07 |
seb128 | they can be closed after a month | 12:07 |
jonh_wendell | nice to know this! | 12:08 |
seb128 | I close them with a comment saying "feel free to reopen with the asked details if you still get the bug" | 12:08 |
jonh_wendell | ok | 12:08 |
jonh_wendell | seb128, can you give me an example? on of these you have closed | 12:08 |
seb128 | jonh_wendell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gaim/+bug/69261 | 12:10 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 69261 in gaim "Crashes when recieved message" [Medium,Rejected] | 12:10 |
yamal | so basically if information is requested but not received timely, it's policy to close? | 12:11 |
jonh_wendell | i guess we have a lot of bugs like that. some from breezy epoch | 12:13 |
yamal | exactly, quite alot of these around, that's why I wondered whether I understood this correctly | 12:14 |
seb128 | jonh_wendell: probably yep | 12:14 |
seb128 | well | 12:14 |
seb128 | the gaim bug I pointed is an easy case | 12:15 |
seb128 | a bug with like 15 comments and a discussing is not always to close even if it's Needs Infoi | 12:15 |
seb128 | discussion | 12:15 |
seb128 | it might have enough informations to be useful already | 12:15 |
seb128 | and many of those bugs actually have a comment and can be reopened and triaged | 12:16 |
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seb128 | dholbach: I was considering update the title too for bug #67361 | 12:38 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 67361 in gaim "Gaim crashes after startup (strcmp) [NO MORE CRASH FILES NEEDED] " [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67361 | 12:38 |
seb128 | people don't like to read comments apparently ;) | 12:38 |
dholbach | yeah | 12:38 |
dholbach | i started doing that with a11y crashes last cycle already | 12:38 |
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geser | are bugs which got fixed in feisty set to "Fix Released"? | 12:42 |
dholbach | yes | 12:42 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #68846 in gmediaserver (universe) "Not possible to remove package" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68846 | 12:56 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74034 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Serial ports of some HP Laptops don't work in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74034 | 12:56 |
Admiral_Chicago | Bug #72518 | 01:04 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 72518 in Ubuntu "Include aiccu in multiverse" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/72518 | 01:04 |
Admiral_Chicago | can someone set as wishlist? | 01:04 |
Admiral_Chicago | i'll package it sometime this week if I can get around to it | 01:05 |
Hobbsee | Admiral_Chicago: done | 01:07 |
Admiral_Chicago | Hobbsee: thank you | 01:08 |
Admiral_Chicago | i wish i was on QA, not enough experience though | 01:08 |
Hobbsee | :) | 01:08 |
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Admiral_Chicago | karma = 19K iirc | 01:10 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74036 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Oops in scsi_mod and usbstorage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74036 | 01:10 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74037 in kdeadmin (main) "[feisty] kuser ui is broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74037 | 01:10 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74038 in totem (main) "Crash while generating thumbnails in nautilus windows" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74038 | 01:15 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74039 in fityk (universe) "Fityk complains about mailcap entry" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74039 | 01:15 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74040 in initramfs-tools (main) "no longer includes mptspi" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74040 | 01:20 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74042 in gdebi (main) "Include "uninstall" button" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74042 | 01:25 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74043 in pymol (universe) "Please sync pymol 0.98+0.99rc6-2 (universe) from Debian Sid (main)" [Low,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74043 | 01:25 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74045 in adept (main) "WISHLIST: aptitude-like behaviour for Adept" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74045 | 01:35 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74047 in network-manager (main) "NM shouldn't depend on gnome-keyring" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74047 | 01:56 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74048 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "kernel BUG when inserting usb stick" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74048 | 01:56 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74049 in gaim (main) "gaim-remote not installed, breaks aim: links in firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74049 | 03:30 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74050 in tomboy (main) "tomboy in kubuntu (kde): the applet not visible in the main panel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74050 | 03:35 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74051 in defoma (main) "Defoma fontconfig backend creates weird fonts.conf" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74051 | 03:40 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74052 in pennmush (universe) "Missing game directory config files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74052 | 03:40 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74053 in gnome-vfs2 (main) "[feisty] gaim-url-handler now deals with aim links" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74053 | 03:45 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74054 in defoma (main) "Defoma fontconfig backend creates weird fonts.conf" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74054 | 04:11 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74055 in gdm (main) "gdm default theme fails to follow Fitt's Law ("options" button)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74055 | 04:35 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74057 in update-manager (main) "update-manager with user's privileges and not with gksudo" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74057 | 04:45 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #73528 in lastfm (universe) "Last.FM crashes for no apparent reason" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73528 | 04:50 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #71954 in qdvdauthor (multiverse) "qdvdauthor can not start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71954 | 05:05 |
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pointwood | hi, I reported a bug some time ago and I'm wondering whether I have posted enough info or there is more I can do: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/71715 | 05:21 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 71715 in Ubuntu "Thinkpad Z61T card reader doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 05:21 |
Admiral_Chicago | pointwood: 15:00.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments Unknown device 8039 is the line | 05:21 |
Admiral_Chicago | or 15:00.2 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments Unknown device 803b | 05:21 |
Admiral_Chicago | have you tried firewire/ | 05:21 |
Admiral_Chicago | it seems the hardware vendor's driver is malfunctiondng | 05:22 |
pointwood | it is an internal card reader | 05:22 |
pointwood | I didn't notice I had one until after some time :p | 05:22 |
pointwood | when I found it I of course had to try it and it didn't work | 05:23 |
pointwood | not a big deal, but hey :) | 05:23 |
Admiral_Chicago | look at the bug report, the stuff that isn't working is a TI device driver | 05:24 |
pointwood | yeah | 05:24 |
Admiral_Chicago | sd card detected in socket 1 | 05:24 |
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Admiral_Chicago | seems to half work...hmm | 05:24 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74058 in yarssr (universe) "Google Atom feeds do not work in Yarssr " [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74058 | 06:36 |
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Yawner | Howdy guys, can someone step in here, I am not too sure what to recommend.. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/73784 | 06:47 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 73784 in firefox "Firefox crash when closing tab" [Undecided,Needs info] | 06:47 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74059 in linux-source-2.6.19 (main) "ata2 timeouts, fails to boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74059 | 07:05 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74060 in acpi-support (main) "lenovo 3000 N100 touch pad doesn't work after resume" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74060 | 07:20 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74061 in mythtv (multiverse) "optimize_mythdb.pl" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74061 | 07:41 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74062 in munin (universe) "[Sync Request] Sync munin (1.2.5-1) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74062 | 07:41 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74064 in Ubuntu "HP DeskJet 952C ignores color/grayscale settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74064 | 07:46 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #73480 in kdepim (main) "Problems with manual in KHelpCenter" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73480 | 07:51 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74063 in hydrogen (universe) "went to load file, crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74063 | 07:51 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74065 in vmware-player (multiverse) "apt-get remove vmware-player doesn't remove vmware-player service" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74065 | 07:55 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74066 in gaim (main) "Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74066 | 08:01 |
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stgraber | just a small and really easy question, if a bug is reported about a non-free software that's even not in Multiverse (Opera for this case) do I have to reject the bug with an explicit comment ? or what can I do ? | 08:24 |
ivoks | god question | 08:26 |
ivoks | that's a package devlierd by canonical's repos | 08:27 |
stgraber | yes, that's why I'm asking | 08:27 |
ivoks | imho, you should reject it | 08:27 |
ivoks | it's not part of ubuntu distribution | 08:28 |
stgraber | ok --> rejected | 08:30 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74068 in evolution (main) "evolution crashed while switching exchange folder" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74068 | 08:40 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74069 in Ubuntu "razer USB mouse isn't recognized after system startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74069 | 08:51 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74070 in evolution (main) "Google Calendar ics support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74070 | 08:51 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74071 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Unexpected system hangups" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74071 | 08:51 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #73477 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Network cards do not work on nForce 590-SLI" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73477 | 08:56 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74072 in vmware-player (multiverse) "installing vmware-player failed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74072 | 09:01 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74073 in powermanga (universe) "[Merge] powermanga 0.80-dfsg-1ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74073 | 09:15 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74074 in Baltix "Support keyboard GABA Model KB-2925" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74074 | 09:20 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74075 in hotkey-setup (main) "Support keyboard GABA Model KB-2925" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74075 | 09:20 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #73529 in Ubuntu "Doesn't install the connector." [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73529 | 09:35 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #68844 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed (Ubuntu 6.10)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68844 | 09:40 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74076 in Ubuntu "RiserFS partition not recognised as root partition" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74076 | 09:40 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74077 in udev (main) "iftab_helper return an already allocated devname on ppp with /etc/iftab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74077 | 09:40 |
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davmor2 | bug 54966 someones is asking that the nvidia-glx package be split in two so that if your running kde you don't need to install gtk2 unless you want the nvidia-settings program isn't this a request for a change to defaults | 09:45 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 54966 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 "nvidia-glx boasts unnecessary dependencies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/54966 | 09:45 |
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RichT | Hi, is keedcook here? | 09:48 |
RichT | Sorry, keescook! | 09:48 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74078 in brasero (universe) "Brasero crashes deleting a dvd-rw" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74078 | 10:01 |
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keescook | ack. RichT/starbug/cmodyssey left too quick. :) | 10:05 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74079 in totem (main) "tried running a music video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74079 | 10:06 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74081 in jokosher (universe) "Crashed on attempting to select a section of the track" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74081 | 10:10 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74082 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.19 (restricted) "no more glx" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74082 | 10:20 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74083 in mozilla (universe) "Crash when printing HTML page with frames/iframes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74083 | 10:20 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74084 in gaim (main) "crash on switching off account" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74084 | 10:45 |
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dfarning | quick question about bug triage. Should I worry about bugs in firefox 1.5 as shipped in dapper or should I work on 2.x and wait for someone to backpost 2.x to dapper | 10:50 |
dfarning | s/backpost/backport/gc | 10:52 |
davmor2 | 2.x probably won't get backported to edgy | 10:52 |
dfarning | do we then worry about issues in 1.5 for LTS | 10:53 |
davmor2 | yes look into them as it is still the default | 10:54 |
dfarning | thanks | 10:55 |
davmor2 | dfarning: if there are fixes in 2.x you may want to just let them know that and to look out for it. | 10:56 |
dfarning | how should the orginal bug in 1.5 be marked? | 10:58 |
dfarning | 'fixrelease' if fixed in 2.0 but not 1.5? | 11:00 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74086 in openssh (main) "neither ~/.bash_profile nor ~/.bashrc are read for ssh login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74086 | 11:01 |
davmor2 | I went for "in progress" and then a short explanation saying what the fix is and it will be made available with "this particular release" | 11:01 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74087 in xserver-xgl (universe) "xserver-xgl crashed and xserver restarts after loading large PDF" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74087 | 11:01 |
dfarning | davmor2: what if it looks like there will not be a fix in 1.5? most of the dev work is being done in 2.0. | 11:03 |
davmor2 | pass still new at this myself | 11:03 |
dfarning | thanks, I'll ask ask again later when dh is on | 11:04 |
davmor2 | or sfllaw | 11:04 |
sfllaw | dfarning: You called? | 11:05 |
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sfllaw | dfarning: We do have to worry about old Firefox bugs in Dapper, because it is LTS. | 11:05 |
sfllaw | It is unlikely that bugs will be fixed there, but someone ought to pay attention to them. | 11:05 |
sfllaw | Especially if there is a security bug. | 11:06 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74088 in oo2c (universe) "Please sync oo2c (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74088 | 11:06 |
dfarning | hey sfllaw just read the transcript of your bug squad meeting | 11:08 |
sfllaw | dfarning: Hello. | 11:08 |
dfarning | nice job | 11:08 |
sfllaw | dfarning: Thans. | 11:08 |
dfarning | should just let bugs against 1.5 sit as confirmed in LP | 11:09 |
dfarning | if they have been fixed in 2.0 | 11:09 |
ailean | davmor2, i see you're here :D | 11:18 |
ailean | i've sent a reply to the bug you rejected explaining my point of view. have you got that? | 11:18 |
davmor2 | hang on I'll check | 11:19 |
ailean | davmor2, 55709 | 11:20 |
davmor2 | ailean: the report I sent you back is the default message for getting a change to a package default | 11:22 |
ailean | i see | 11:23 |
ailean | davmor2, what do you suggest i do then? An ISO standard shouldn't need discussion | 11:23 |
davmor2 | as the default is incorrect it does need to change. | 11:24 |
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ailean | yep. the problem is that it's not that important to most people :) | 11:25 |
ailean | i appreciate you looking at it | 11:25 |
davmor2 | sfllaw who is the best group of people to get onto about this? | 11:25 |
davmor2 | would it motu? | 11:25 |
crimsun | err, what? | 11:26 |
ailean | changing the name of a language | 11:27 |
ailean | Bug 55709 | 11:27 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 55709 in language-pack-gnome-en-base ""Scots Gaelic" should be "Scottish Gaelic"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55709 | 11:27 |
crimsun | no, motu is not appropriate | 11:27 |
crimsun | language-pack-gnome-en-base | 1:6.10+20061019 | http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Sources | 11:27 |
sfllaw | davmor2: Is there an actual argument here? | 11:27 |
ailean | sfllaw, no | 11:28 |
sfllaw | ailean: OK. So ask the maintainer what he/she thinks. | 11:29 |
sfllaw | I must go. | 11:29 |
ailean | pitti then | 11:29 |
davmor2 | sfllaw no just confusion I put it down to needing a change to default which is agreed | 11:29 |
crimsun | bye, sfllaw | 11:29 |
ailean | seeya sfllaw | 11:29 |
ailean | i'll email pitti | 11:30 |
davmor2 | bye | 11:30 |
ailean | thanks for your help davmor2 | 11:30 |
davmor2 | okay ailean sorry I couldn't help more | 11:30 |
ailean | i don't see what you could do :) | 11:31 |
davmor2 | :) | 11:31 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74089 in console-common (main) "[Sync Request] Sync console-common (0.7.68) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74089 | 11:35 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74090 in gnunet (universe) "Bug in gnunet dpkg configure script " [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74090 | 11:40 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #74091 in gnome-app-install (main) "Removing a package gives entirely wrong error message" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74091 | 12:06 |
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