[12:06] 2) yes. === co-NP [n=conp@pool-02939.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:08] 3) I've triaged far to many in the past for products, but not done specific triaging within ubuntu... hmm [12:08] hangon, apport and hwddb I did some cleanup on [12:09] sfllaw: I would like to apply for ubuntu-qa. [12:09] Kaleo: OK. You just have to answer three questions: [12:10] 1. Do you promise to be polite to bug reporters, even if you don't think they deserve it? [12:10] 2. Have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance? [12:10] 3. Can you show me some bugs you've triaged? [12:10] 1. yes [12:10] New bug: #73989 in gftp (main) "gftp randomly crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73989 [12:10] 2. I am doing this now [12:11] 3. Let me see [12:11] https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/hwdb-client/+bug/30910 [12:11] Malone bug 30910 in hwdb-client "Hardware Database not browseable" [Medium,Unconfirmed] [12:11] sortof-triaged [12:12] 2. done [12:12] https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/hwdb-client/+bug/17595 [12:12] Malone bug 17595 in hwdb-client "failure to parse xorg output leads to a hung gui." [Medium,Needs info] [12:12] found duplicates for this and isolated the failure [12:14] lifeless: All right. You're in. [12:14] Let me hit the right button. [12:14] thank you [12:16] I do not know [12:16] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/3647 [12:16] Malone bug 3647 in totem ""On Top" menu bug" [Unknown,Confirmed] === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:18] sfllaw: I would like to be part of ubuntu-qa too :) [12:18] Adri2000: Hurray! 3 questions. [12:18] Ready? [12:18] 1. Do you promise to be polite to bug reporters, even if you don't think they deserve it? [12:18] 2. Have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance? [12:18] 3. Can you show me some bugs you've triaged? [12:18] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/33387 [12:18] Malone bug 33387 in linux-source-2.6.15 "Creative webcam plus driver does not work." [Medium,Confirmed] [12:18] 1. Of course :) [12:18] 2. Yes [12:19] sfllaw: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/33387 [12:19] 3. today in the package lopster: bug 32449 64340 73938 (and https://bugs.launchpad.net/people/adri2000/+karma) [12:19] Malone bug 32449 in lopster "1.2.0 is an obsolete version" [Wishlist,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/32449 [12:19] sfllaw: is there a canned 'untriaged bugs' search ? [12:20] lifeless: Ugh. No. We've asked LP. [12:20] You can find one in the UbuntuHugDay page, I think. [12:20] sfllaw: yes, but can we do one with advanced ? [12:20] Yes. [12:20] There's a URL on the wiki page about it. [12:20] I've bookmarked it myself. [12:20] this should be on HowToTriage [12:20] sfllaw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/lopster/+bugs and "All bugs ever reported" [12:21] lifeless: True. === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp28-152.lns1.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:21] Kaleo: When you set bugs to Needs Info, can you assign them to yourself? [12:22] And when you set them to Confirmed, assign them to Nobody? [12:22] sfllaw: I heard of that, it's a new rule? [12:23] Yeah. [12:23] ok [12:23] sfllaw: ok === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:23] it makes sense [12:23] sfllaw: tell me if I can join the team on launchpad [12:24] Kaleo: All right, I will approve you. [12:24] Adri2000: Looking through LP now. [12:24] sfllaw: thank you, you are kind. [12:24] sfllaw: on the page now [12:25] lifeless: Hmm, I noticed that. [12:25] lifeless: Please tell me when you're done. [12:25] sfllaw: I mean 'I'm done, its on the page now' [12:25] lifeless: I just realized that HowToTriage doesn't reflect the Assignee policy. [12:25] Ah. [12:26] sfllaw: ok, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/bzr/+bug/50290 is already fixed in edgy [12:26] Malone bug 50290 in bzr "Creating a branch in a repository chews up huge amounts of memory" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [12:26] sfllaw: dapper is also fixed I think, via dapper updates [12:26] sfllaw: how would you choose to reflect this? fix released, with a comment ? [12:27] I am a newbie, so can I confirm a bug report if I think it has been confirmed? [12:28] in fact it seems to be confirmed by many users, only that the status is still unconfirmed [12:28] coNP: when asking for advice, please quote the bug #. I.e. bug 1234 [12:28] Bug 1234 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/1234 is private [12:28] coNP: that will let folk that want to advise look at the relevant data :) [12:28] is it that nobody wanted to change the status for some reason, or that no one "dared" to set it unconfirmed [12:28] coNP: tunfortunetly it us up to the Bug QA team to do that [12:29] least it in a duplicate or something like that [12:29] coNP: we dont know. Whats the bug #? [12:29] https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openbox/+bug/60210 [12:29] Malone bug 60210 in openbox "Missing libobrender.so.1/libobparser.so.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [12:29] okay, than I misunderstood sfllaw in the afternoon [12:30] Admiral_Chicago: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage says anyone can confirm [12:30] coNP: I dont think you misunderstood [12:30] okay, then I was right :) [12:30] lifeless: let me look i don't remember seeing that but i'll check [12:31] New bug: #73990 in xorg-server (main) "Xnest recommends using a universe package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73990 [12:31] Well, it says "you can Confirm" [12:31] Which is a pretty inclusive you. [12:31] I figure if you can read this page, that's you. [12:31] so what do you think, is there a special reason not to confirm it? [12:32] because I was surprised to see as many comments at a bug that is not confirmed [12:32] coNP: Hmm. Do you know what openbox is? === dous [n=dous@124.107.248.86] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:32] sfllaw: of course, I use it daily [12:32] coNP: check where it shows the package name, click it, there should be a drop down menu [12:32] it is an X window manager [12:33] coNP: Does it break without these libraries? [12:33] Admiral_Chicago: I know how to do it :) [12:33] sfllaw: yes, all comments are true and useful [12:33] coNP: and you can't? [12:33] Admiral_Chicago: I can, but I was wandering if I _should_ [12:34] coNP: I'm a little shocked that a non lib* package has shared libraries in it. [12:34] coNP: But it seems to be a valid bug. [12:34] sfllaw: you think it's a good idea? [12:34] actually openbox does not need these libraries [12:34] only obconf that is a configuration tool for it [12:34] and a separate package [12:35] coNP: I'd say change the bug report's description. [12:35] Say that libobrender.so.1 and libobparser.so.1 aren't shipped any more in a package. [12:35] And that a separate libopenbox package should be created for these shared libraries. [12:35] Then obconf can depend on libopenbox. [12:36] http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/libpkg-guide.html [12:36] sfllaw: I think you are wrong :) [12:36] lifeless: Really? [12:36] yes [12:36] lifeless: Fair enough. [12:36] /usr/lib/ called libobrender.so.0.4.0 and libobparser.so.0.4.0 whick acc. to dpkg -S are installed by openbox package. [12:36] from near the top [12:37] Oh. [12:37] It's just symlinks. [12:37] I'm thinking a rebuild is needed [12:37] Boy do I feel dumb. [12:37] Yeah, it's likely a packaging bug. [12:37] coNP: definately confirm this [12:37] coNP: as you note - there are people confirming it [12:37] And it is a complete bug report. [12:37] Albeit difficult to read. [12:37] yes, therefore was I _shocked_ why it has not been confirmed yet [12:38] coNP: That's why we're glad you're here! [12:38] :) === sfllaw hugs coNP. === coNP hugs back both sfllaw and lifeless [12:38] coNP: I would try to update the description to be more clear - the packaging appears to be faulty, and it needs a packager to look at it. [12:38] coNP: this means it is not an upstream bug, its a bug in ubuntu specifically === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:39] sfllaw: so my question was, bug 50290 is fixed upstream, and the fixed package is in edgy for sure [12:39] Malone bug 50290 in bzr "Creating a branch in a repository chews up huge amounts of memory" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/50290 [12:39] sfllaw: whats the protocol to close bugs ? [12:40] If it's in Edgy, it's Fix Released. [12:41] New bug: #73435 in xchat (universe) "unexpected quit" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73435 [12:41] New bug: #73991 in Ubuntu "Belkin USB 4 Port Hub F5U021 : Failure to mount Lexar Thumbdrive (and perhaps any other usb device?)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73991 [12:41] The protocol to close bugs for non-triagers is poorly defined. === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:46] sfllaw: looked at my triaged bugs? [12:47] sfllaw: ok, so fix released, dont touch milestone, just a comment ? === coNP [n=conp@pool-02939.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:51] lifeless: Yes. There's no need to touch any of the other stuff. [12:51] thanks [12:51] Adri2000: You're good. [12:51] sfllaw: bug 50339 [12:51] Bug 50339 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/50339 is private [12:51] sfllaw: can you see that? its got no subscribers other than the reporter. [12:51] lifeless: You're going to have to subscribe me to that one. [12:52] sfllaw: ok, I have just joined the team [12:52] sfllaw: hmm. I'll take this to #launchpad. I think its a glitch === ash211 [n=andrew@adsl-152-169-197.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:52] lifeless: The UI could have let someone do that. [12:52] but its a black hole. [12:52] so we need to prevent this [12:54] sfllaw: thanks! :) [01:01] OK. Dinner time. [01:02] sfllaw: you should get people to promise to triage 1 bug a day :) [01:02] 4) Will you triage 1 bug a day ? [01:03] lifeless: People would unconsciously lie. [01:03] true enough [01:04] then perhaps we can encourage 'a bug a day' [01:04] does that then mean that if people consistently don't triage one per day then they get evicted? === ajmitch certainly doesn't triage 1 bug a day at the moment [01:04] ajmitch: Off with your head! [01:04] :) === ajmitch ducks === xhaker [n=xhaker@a81-84-27-24.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dsas [n=dean@host-84-9-170-12.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === ash211_ [n=andrew@adsl-152-169-197.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-103-226.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:30] New bug: #73993 in Ubuntu "Galaxy Screen Saver Reboot System Automatically" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73993 === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-103-226.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-103-226.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:48] what do you think about this one: #1725 it's over a year old and nothing was ever done about it (and I think there never will be ... proper network-anonymity should be handled another way). [01:51] generally what about all the things maked as "Whishlist" for over a year? [01:51] with no reply ever ... [01:53] if there is a bug reported more than once, which should become the duplicate? [01:54] the one that has been reported first should be left? [01:56] or the more complete one, the one with better notes [01:56] yes that is the question... :) [01:56] so you say, tarheelcoxn, it is up to me? [01:57] coNP, it is. [01:57] the better one. mark the one that's not as complete as a duplicate of the better one [01:57] okay, thanks both a7p & tarheelcoxn [02:01] New bug: #73994 in drgeo (universe) "Crash report" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73994 [02:08] mmm ... why can't I find the package sane-backends-extras via apt-cache search ? It seems to exist in the bugtracker, but I also can not find it via packages.ubuntu.com ... what does that mean? [02:11] ah, it is a source-package which generates libsane-extras ... [02:11] quit confusing === rpedro__ [n=rpedro@89-180-130-41.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Cas_ [n=cas@218.17.234.245] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === mr_pouit_ [n=silk@LAubervilliers-151-12-125-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === mr_pouit_ is now known as mr_pouit === did447 [n=didier@m81.net81-64-90.noos.fr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:32] I did a mistake [02:32] I added a wrong distribution link to bug #59305 [02:32] Malone bug 59305 in tilda "problem with specifying size as a percentage" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59305 [02:32] how could I remove it? === andresmujica [n=AndresMu@201.245.233.181] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:33] coNP: you can't. You can reject it, and add the correct distribution, however. [02:34] crimsun: thanks === ash211_ [n=andrew@user-11210ts.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:45] New bug: #73995 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "Banshee Web resource help links fail to load if browser not open" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73995 [03:00] New bug: #73996 in gaim (main) "crash report" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73996 === Jozo-_ [i=jozo@viola.uninea.fi] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Jozo-_ is now known as Jozo- [03:05] New bug: #73997 in firefox (main) "Windows Live Mail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73997 [03:05] New bug: #73998 in Ubuntu "Open Office word crashes when copying and pasting text into gaim chat." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73998 === Jozo- [n=jozo@viola.uninea.fi] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === merlin-linux [n=quail@unaffiliated/quaillinux/x-000001] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:13] no less than 18 dupes and still people keep reporting it anew [03:15] yamal: the OO crash? === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:19] yup === Jozo-_ [i=jozo@viola.uninea.fi] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:20] i'll keep it in mind if i see it === Jozo-_ is now known as Jozo- [03:26] New bug: #73999 in gksu (main) "Crashes. Spawned by update-manager. Possible interaction issue with synergy." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73999 [03:35] New bug: #74000 in control-center (main) "crashes when I change gnome theme" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74000 === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dous [n=dous@124.107.248.86] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === towsonu2003 [n=towsonu2@c-69-251-20-244.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [04:20] New bug: #74002 in file-roller (main) "[Feisty] File Roller's "Extract" button no longer functions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74002 === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [04:40] New bug: #74003 in Ubuntu "Kernel Panic --Edgy-- unable to mount root fs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74003 [04:45] I truly hate searching for bugs in launchpad... can never find what I'm looking for, even if it's among the ones I'm subscribed too... === Burgundavia_ [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:10] New bug: #74004 in initramfs-tools (main) "Doesn't include qla2xxx firmware" [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74004 [05:30] New bug: #74005 in viewcvs (universe) "viewcvs should require python-subversion" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74005 [05:30] New bug: #74006 in xserver-kdrive (universe) "Cap lock key stuck in cap lock" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74006 === Cas_ [n=cas@218.17.234.245] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp28-152.lns1.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [06:31] New bug: #74007 in gnome-media (main) "volume control not working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74007 [06:50] what to do with a bug without subscribers? even the initial reporter isn't subscribed (anymore?) [06:50] which? [06:53] crimsun: Bug #62042 [06:53] Malone bug 62042 in openoffice.org "OPenoffice malfunctioning with SCIM" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62042 [06:55] yamal: technically at least three groups are notified still [06:55] New bug: #74008 in compiz (universe) "Taking screenshots of the invidual window fails to capture window decorators" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74008 [06:55] yeah that's true [06:58] though even very basic info requested just after it was filed is still missing never to be added :/ [06:58] how do you debug program hangs? [06:59] I mean if this was a crash, you'd use gdb [06:59] what do you use for hangs? [07:01] anyone? [07:15] New bug: #74009 in Ubuntu "Kernel panic after "Initializing /dev" during startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74009 [07:25] New bug: #68937 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice opens files read-only fromn nfs mounted partition" [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68937 [07:35] New bug: #74010 in xmms (main) "xmms still has debian logo" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74010 [07:47] you cant make fun of bug 74010 while I'm here can you :Pp [07:47] Malone bug 74010 in xmms "xmms still has debian logo" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74010 === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F73327.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [07:56] New bug: #74012 in compiz (universe) "Compiz crashes with two X-screens" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74012 [07:56] good morning [08:11] New bug: #74013 in initramfs-tools (main) "Wrong grep switch in all_generic_ide" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74013 === Cieffe [n=cieffe@151.54.106.249] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [08:15] New bug: #74014 in initramfs-tools (main) "scripts/init-top/all_generic_ide uses wrong call to grep" [High,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74014 [08:25] New bug: #74016 in im-switch (main) "[Sync request] Sync im-switch-1.13 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74016 === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [08:40] New bug: #74018 in initramfs-tools (main) "2.6.19 panics on boot in vmware" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74018 === calavera [n=calavera@195.Red-80-26-32.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [08:43] can i reject this bug 61683? [08:43] Malone bug 61683 in rhythmbox "Error loading files : not an audio stream" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61683 === guglielf [n=flp@ppp-21-70.21-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [08:44] the report is old and it seems to be caused by the absence of gstreamer-ugly === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-0c2c33c79b33e043] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dfarning [n=dfarning@69-179-20-226.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:04] I am triaging a bug #68538 that was files against firefox, Got some info back from reported that leads me to believe that it is a blackdown bug [09:04] Malone bug 68538 in firefox "When visiting www.map24.com Firefox starts hanging permanently after a few seconds." [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68538 [09:04] how do I move it? [09:05] click on the 'firefox' in the yellow bar in the middle [09:05] and replace firefox with blackdown [09:06] man, I was looking for something more complicated;) [09:06] thanks [09:06] I'm sure you can do it in a more complicated way :-) [09:06] anytime :) === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-12-145.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:14] hmmmmm, nothing like bug triage in the morning [09:14] dholbach: hi [09:14] dholbach: how are you [09:14] hey cypher1 [09:14] good good - how are you? [09:14] dholbach: fine too thanks [09:15] dholbach: december started :) [09:15] yeah [09:15] can i reject this bug 61683? [09:15] Malone bug 61683 in rhythmbox "Error loading files : not an audio stream" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61683 [09:15] the report is old and it seems to be caused by the absence of gstreamer-ugly [09:15] I looked forward to the 1st of december for two weeks now :-) [09:15] dholbach: :-) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:15] Cieffe: good catch - close it === dholbach hugs Cieffe === dholbach marks bug 74007 as a dup of bug 65822 [09:16] Malone bug 74007 in gnome-media "volume control not working" [Medium,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74007 [09:16] Malone bug 65822 in gnome-media "gnome-volume-control crashed" [Unknown,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65822 [09:16] cypher1: I'm going to play in a club nearby tonight - that's what I've been looking forward to :-) [09:17] play means ? [09:18] play records [09:21] New bug: #74020 in xorg (main) "computer freezes when starting glxgears" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74020 [09:21] today i close or commented some bug report in rythmbox [09:21] Cieffe: I noticed - good work on those! [09:21] There are still 3 report with status unconfirmed/undecided that i don't know how to handle [09:21] dholbach: can you help me on this? [09:22] dholbach: thanks! :) [09:22] Cieffe: which ones are those? [09:22] I'll try [09:22] bug 66924 [09:22] Malone bug 66924 in rhythmbox "behaves poorly when a previous instance has frozen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66924 [09:23] maybe i should only ask if the problem is still present? [09:23] Yeah, ask if he could try with Edgy or Feisty and you could probably forward it as a suggestion upstream [09:24] and probably ask for a rhythmbox -d log [09:24] also a backtrace might be useful to find out why the existing instance is hanging [09:24] (if so) [09:24] gdb -p $(pidof rhythmbox) [09:25] New bug: #74021 in xorg (main) "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg's monitor test freezes computer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74021 [09:25] ok i'm going to ask if the problme is still present, if so i ask for other info [09:26] other bug 66810 [09:26] Malone bug 66810 in rhythmbox "Likes to crash shortly after startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66810 [09:30] Cieffe: the backtrace indicates that there's something wrong with gnome-vfs [09:31] it's not clear what rhythmbox was trying to do, so a -d log might help also === cypher1_ [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-1c77eea2fcbeeb9e] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:32] I'm just doing some searches on the upstream bugzilla [09:33] often it's enough to search for a function name in one of the comments in the upstream tracker [09:34] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=gnome_vfs_uri_unref&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_cont [09:34] act2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= [09:34] oops [09:34] http://tinyurl.com/yhg3u5 [09:35] http://tinyurl.com/yfnp53 [09:35] those two might help [09:35] New bug: #74022 in dovecot (main) "vpopmail support not compiled into dovecot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74022 [09:35] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366346 looks like a good candidate [09:35] Gnome bug 366346 in general "crash in Rhythmbox Music Player: loading music into the p..." [Critical,Needinfo] [09:36] it has some duplicates already and it was asked for a debug backtrace [09:36] the one in bug 66810 looks quite good [09:36] Malone bug 66810 in rhythmbox "Likes to crash shortly after startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66810 [09:36] so it'd be good to follow up on the upstream bug with more information and link the two bugs [09:36] (mention the malone url upstream and add a bugwatch for the upstream bug in malone) === pradeep [n=pradeep@59.92.32.129] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:39] Cieffe: does that help? [09:39] hey pradeep [09:39] hello dholbach :) === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:39] dholbach: should i ask for rhythmbox -d anyway? only last X line or all the log? ( X=?) :) [09:40] rhythmbox -d 2>log.txt [09:40] if it crashes at startup it shouldn't be that long [09:40] dholbach: yes, i understand, i'm going to do and then you will check :) [09:40] thanls [09:40] *thanks [09:40] de rien [09:40] thanks for working on them === dholbach hugs Cieffe [09:41] dholbach, quick question: What is the -dbg package for eog(Eye of Gnome)? [09:41] dholbach: you speak french? [09:41] pradeep: in which version of ubuntu? [09:41] Admiral_Chicago: seulement un peu :-) [09:41] moi aussie [09:42] but seb128 always makes fun of me [09:42] so you speak three languages then? [09:42] dholbach, edgy and feisty. I noticed a bug and i want to generate a trace. === mvo [n=egon@p54A65FE6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:42] he said something along the lines of "did you translate that with babelfish? it makes no sense" [09:42] ah i tried to help out on the kubuntu forums in french [09:42] i remember that [09:43] pradeep: enable pitti's repository (explained in http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash) and it should be eog-dbgsym [09:43] hey mvo [09:43] i'm not good at french, and I tried to learn other languages as well, but didn't have enough people to talk to on a day-to-day basis, so I gave up again :) [09:44] hey dholbach! [09:44] well i studied it four years in school, but i don't practice ever [09:45] talk to raphael pinso === trappist_ [i=trappist@tra.ppi.st] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:47] thanks dholbach ! :) [09:49] moi aussi, j'ai etudie le francais a l'ecole :) [09:50] dholbach: done, can you check bug 66810 [09:50] Malone bug 66810 in rhythmbox "Likes to crash shortly after startup" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66810 === blufox [n=bluf0x@59.92.138.69] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:52] there is only one, bug 63143, undecided for rhytmbox now :) [09:52] Malone bug 63143 in rhythmbox "problems with rhythmbox and xubuntu 6.06" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/63143 [09:52] je parle francais seulement quand je vuex parle avec mes amis en prive [09:52] i can't do accent marks... [09:52] Admiral_Chicago: me too [09:53] It's the only thing i can say, and I'm not sure it's right :P [10:00] New bug: #74023 in Fedora (universe) "Xorg does not start in dom0 with i810 driver" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74023 === cas_ [n=cas@218.18.17.126] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dfarning [n=dfarning@69-179-20-226.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:15] New bug: #74024 in ubiquity (main) "Attempting to re-install Ubuntu 6.06 after a failed "upgrade" of Xubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74024 === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:23] dholbach is back to bug triage, waouh :) === seb128 hugs dholbach [10:24] dholbach: your email wasn't translated by babelfish, a lot easier to understand :P === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:36] New bug: #71770 in ubiquity (main) "Unable to install Ubuntu 6.06 in HP Pavillion dv1325" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71770 [10:36] New bug: #71809 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed - "Install failed with exit code 1"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71809 [10:36] New bug: #73523 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73523 === motin_ [n=motin@c-138472d5.09-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:39] seb128: i just see your comment [10:39] thanks [10:39] hi Cieffe [10:39] thank *you* for bug triaging ;) [10:39] I agree with you for bug 56557 [10:39] Malone bug 56557 in rhythmbox "Queued songs are shuffled when shutting down and restarting" [Medium,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56557 [10:41] New bug: #71633 in ubiquity (main) "Installed crashed, line 696 gtkui.py" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71633 [10:41] and also for bug 59703 [10:41] Malone bug 59703 in rhythmbox "Import freezes/rhythmbox doesn't exit properly if a wmv file is in the watched directory" [Medium,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59703 [10:42] but it's ok to reject bug 33112? [10:42] Malone bug 33112 in rhythmbox "[Dapper] Rhythmbox does not play mp3's" [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/33112 [10:44] Cieffe: it is, that's why I didn't change it ;) [10:44] Cieffe: good work! [10:44] i'm raising more problem than trying to help :) [10:45] it should be [10:45] i'm raising more problem than solution trying to help :) [10:47] maybe there is a better solution to 33112. back in the old days of windows, i think i recall a feature where if the media player couldn't play a file due to missing codecs. it would try and find the codec (always failed tho :P). maybe ubuntu's rhythmbox could advice the user that it found mp3 files during the scan and give them some advice? [10:47] seb128: and why you assigned this bug 61683 to ubuntu desktop if it was rejected? [10:47] Malone bug 61683 in rhythmbox "Error loading files : not an audio stream" [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/61683 [10:48] Cieffe: why did you unassign it? ;) [10:48] DarkMageZ: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyCodecInstallation [10:49] DarkMageZ: as far as i know there is a spec already write for this [10:49] seb128: because if rejected it shouldn't be assigned [10:49] why not? [10:49] but of course i'm wrong :) [10:49] the team is still responsive for it [10:50] and if the submitter disagree and comment the team gets the mails for sure then [10:50] i think reject == not a bug => no one should resolve it => no one should have it assigned [10:50] New bug: #74026 in libapt-front (main) "apt-index-watcher watch results in segfault" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74026 [10:50] i don't suppose either of you gents know the license RSS uses? [10:50] rejected = not listed, not in the way [10:50] your last line is very clear :) [10:50] but still, if the submitter has extra comments somebody should read them [10:51] i understand [10:51] thanks [10:51] np [10:55] New bug: #71940 in ubiquity (main) "I can't install my ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71940 [10:55] New bug: #74027 in gutenprint (main) "WISHLIST: Upgrade gutenprint to the CVS version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74027 [10:56] hehe Admiral_Chicago [10:56] hey seb128 [10:56] dholbach: Alter! [10:56] i don't think the idea of RSS has a license [10:56] morning ;) [10:56] Alter [11:00] New bug: #74028 in scummvm (universe) "version 0.9.1 is already in Debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74028 [11:05] New bug: #71592 in ubiquity (main) "Installer Crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71592 === a7p [n=Albrecht@p54AE1B50.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:10] New bug: #71945 in Ubuntu "HP Laserjet 1020 gets detected but doesn't work." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71945 [11:10] New bug: #74029 in slocate (main) "updatedb scans /mnt (hence /mnt/hgfs) by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74029 [11:12] in #25226 someone complains about his CPU freqency not automatically beeing adjusted (in dapper). He changed some stuff and now it works like he wants it to - I've got absolutly no idea how to handle this bug. (personally I think it should be rejected, for cpu-scaling is handled diffently in edgy and with the feedback the user gives it is not possible to find a potential powernowd bug). [11:17] bug #25226 [11:17] Malone bug 25226 in laptop-mode "laptop-mode does not twiddle CPU frequency" [Medium,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/25226 [11:18] a7p: looks like a request to get the default config adapted then, he should not have to change the config to get it working [11:18] maybe confirming as a wishlist? [11:19] or reject if that's not revelant to edgy [11:19] I don't know enough about cpu-scaling to have a clear opinion about that one === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:33] seb128, It seem cpu scalling principially works for him ... normally powernowd does nothing else but setting the CPU-Frequency explicitly. And setting it manually seems to work for him ... [11:34] okay, I will reject it - since wishlisting is inadequat - fullfilling whould be a step back from where edgy is. [11:34] ok === jonh_wendell [n=wendell@200165129086.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:46] New bug: #74030 in firefox (main) "firefox crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74030 [11:58] Cieffe: good work [12:01] pfiou [12:01] seb128: hm? [12:02]