=== kjalil [n=kjalil@host86-136-70-150.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Saelynh [n=saelynh@cha92-11-82-243-247-67.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === cstudent [n=cstudent@67.129.197.198] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Leaving"] === michl [n=michl@p54939B1C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Kopete] === Genjuro [i=Elliott@201.79.207.236] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === skateinmars_ [n=skateinm@arl13-1-82-240-6-242.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === vyoman [n=andre@80-195-189-177.cable.ubr05.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Konversation] === davrieb [n=davrieb@a-128.dsl.tu-graz.ac.at] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === davrieb [n=davrieb@a-128.dsl.tu-graz.ac.at] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] === guillaumh [n=guillaum@4va54-5-88-163-244-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === SamuraiCat [i=jspierce@nat/ibm/x-0debc9576726f9fb] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === graham_100 [n=chatzill@host81-129-206-109.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [12:47] i have no clue how to use some parts of ubuntu can somebody help me?? === Madeye [n=Jad@81.10.126.19] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [12:47] please [12:47] graham_100: #ubuntu [12:48] andrew been in there not helping me [12:48] graham_100: Perhaps - what parts? (#ubuntu is good for general stuff usually, but depending what you need maybe we can take it here) [12:48] tonyyarusso i need to know how to use a second hard drive mainly on ubuntu [12:49] installed formatted and partitioned but i cant do anything with it [12:49] graham_100: Is it mounted? [12:49] it says so === gyaresu_ [n=gyaresu@124.243.158.56] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [12:49] Describe what your process is and what happens. [12:49] i just checked and it is mounted definately [12:50] i open the drive by double click [12:50] and once in i can't creat save or do anything with it [12:50] which i find strange === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm57.omega18.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [12:50] it is partitioned as ext2 [12:51] Okay, my first guess is it's a permissions issue. [12:51] It sounds like you don't have write permissions. [12:51] oh is that fixable? [12:51] Definitely. [12:51] As long as we can make sure that's what's going on. [12:51] ok how do i do that?? [12:51] We can check in the GUI, but frankly it's easier on a command line - is that okay? [12:51] i know some basics not that though lol [12:52] i can do terminal [12:52] cool === SamuraiCat [i=jspierce@nat/ibm/x-0debc9576726f9fb] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] [12:52] 'ls -l /media/newdrive' , or whatever the path to the drive is. === ash211 [n=andrew@adsl-152-169-197.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [12:52] is the path to drive the hdb1?? [12:54] Whereever it's mounted. [12:54] hdb1 is the device, you need the mounted path. [12:55] tells me ls invalid option === sonex [n=bang@88.118.76.38] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [12:55] It's l and in Luxemburg in both cases, by the way, not a one. [12:56] mounted path would be computer:///?? [12:56] so hdbl?? [12:56] 37.3 GB Volume: hdb1 that is what it says it is [12:57] sorry if i sound so thick === stefg [n=chatzill@dslb-088-072-223-209.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [12:58] Did you mount it using a mount command, gui, or fstab? [12:59] i think i did it with the right click optiion [12:59] `right click` `mount device` [01:00] Ah, okay. [01:01] Oh! [01:01] 'cat /etc/mtab' [01:01] I think that will tell us something useful. [01:02] kelly@kelly-desktop:~$ cat /etc/mtab [01:02] /dev/hda1 / ext3 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0 [01:02] proc /proc proc rw 0 0 [01:02] /sys /sys sysfs rw 0 0 [01:02] varrun /var/run tmpfs rw 0 0 [01:02] varlock /var/lock tmpfs rw 0 0 [01:02] procbususb /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0 [01:02] udev /dev tmpfs rw 0 0 [01:02] devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 [01:02] devshm /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0 [01:02] lrm /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/volatile tmpfs rw 0 0 [01:02] /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ext2 rw 0 0 [01:02] sorry if i pasted to much [01:03] it's that bit on the last line about second drive yes?? [01:03] Correct. [01:03] So, 'ls -l /media/hdb1' [01:04] kelly@kelly-desktop:~$ ls -l /media/hdb1 [01:04] total 48 [01:04] drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 49152 2006-11-28 01:12 lost+found [01:04] what is that telling me ? [01:04] it has a file in there called lost+found [01:05] no, that's a directory [01:06] it should be empty [01:06] lost+found is empty [01:06] Good === xhaker [n=xhaker@a81-84-27-24.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [01:07] Oh hey, we actually need the parent of that don't we? [01:07] graham_100: 'ls -l /media' [01:07] My bad [01:07] well it's safe to assume from that output that root owns the entire drive [01:07] lost+found is where damaged files are dumped by fsck, if the filesystem is damaged by an unclean unmount. [01:07] because graham hasn't made any changes there yet [01:07] so he needs to make himself the owner of /media/hdb1 === dsas [n=dean@host-84-9-170-12.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === xhaker [n=xhaker@a81-84-27-24.cpe.netcabo.pt] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Leaving"] [01:08] well the computer name is my g/f name "kelly" [01:08] maniacmusician: Not necessarily the owner - just have at least +w set [01:09] tonyyarusso: yeah true. I guess i'm just in the habit of doing that with my drives :) [01:09] graham_100: If I remember my mount syntax (debatable) you need to add 'user' to the "options" portion. [01:09] oooh how do we do that bit? [01:09] graham_100: If you just want a one-time fix, you can use sudo with chown or chmod (your choice) === dinda [n=dinda@cpe-72-181-82-33.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [01:09] is that straight forward way then? [01:10] or if you prefer gui, you can do a "gksudo nautilus" and use nautilus to modify the permissions [01:10] graham_100: 'gksu gedit /etc/fstab'. Find the line in there for this drive, and note the column headings - lloking for option. === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm57.omega18.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [01:10] graham_100: Change it from just defaults to defaults,user [01:10] (SOmeone correct me if I'm wrong) [01:11] sounds okay. [01:11] I know there's also a "users" option, which I get confused with "user" [01:11] i have fstab open now [01:11] good [01:11] See a line for this drive? [01:12] Common for all types [01:12] would that be it? [01:12] of file system are the options noauto (do not mount when "mount -a" is given, e.g., at boot time), user (allow a user to mount), and owner (allow device [01:12] owner to mount) [01:13] *oops* === dsas [n=dean@host-84-9-170-12.bulldogdsl.com] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Ex-Chat"] [01:13] # /etc/fstab: static file system information. [01:13] # [01:13] # [01:13] proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 [01:13] /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [01:13] /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ext2 defaults 0 2 [01:13] /dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 0 [01:13] /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 [01:13] is all that is there [01:13] Great === ash211_ [n=andrew@adsl-152-169-197.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [01:13] is that good or bad?? [01:13] /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ext2 defaults 0 2 is the line in question [01:14] Good [01:14] right i see that [01:14] Just make "defaults" "defaults,user" [01:14] Save, and exit [01:14] now i have to change it right?? [01:14] yep [01:14] changed how do i save it? [01:14] Then unmount and remount the drive for the new settings to take effect, and you should be all set. [01:15] Did you open in gedit? [01:15] Big ol' save button. [01:15] In nano, Ctrl-O [01:15] yeah i guess [01:15] *fstab (/etc) - gedit is the header on window [01:16] righto [01:16] so just ctrl-o now to save?? [01:16] :) think i am learning === dinda [n=dinda@cpe-72-181-82-33.houston.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] [01:17] That was for a different editor. [01:17] graham_100: cilck the icon with the word 'save' under it [01:17] click, even [01:17] Ctrl-S, or the big save button [01:17] got it :) === sonex [n=bang@88.118.76.38] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] [01:18] now unmount remount to see if it works?? [01:18] a simple sudo mount -a will do the job [01:18] but i just tried that and because it's me unable to unmount the drive lol [01:19] "sudo mount -a" [01:19] sudo mount -a didn't appear to do anything let me just check [01:20] what it does is it remounts all the drives, and applies all changes made in the /etc/fstab file [01:20] so it just applied the permission changes [01:20] you should be able to write to the drive now [01:20] nope made no difference how do i unmount now??? [01:20] for some reason i can't get it to do these things lol [01:21] umount: only root can unmount /dev/hdb1 from /media/hdb1 [01:21] Use sudo [01:21] that is what it tells me [01:21] sudo umount [01:21] tonyyarusso: also, he was using unmount instead of umount [01:21] err wait. [01:21] he was using nautilus lol [01:21] That would do it too [01:21] now sudo -a mount to remount? [01:22] sudo mount -a [01:23] aargh didn't work ! how do you guys not get stressed with this?? === bw_hb [i=root@134.76.166.207] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [01:23] :) this is problem with using windows 15 years then going to linux i guess [01:24] so where do i begin now? [01:24] I'm guessing user was just the wrong option. [01:24] what I would do (because it's easiest for me) is make yourself the owner of the whole drive. [01:24] could i have done something wrong with the partition and format? [01:25] how do i do that with the owner ?? [01:25] I'm not familiar with the command line way to do it [01:26] sudo chown graham:graham, if graham is your user name [01:26] Actually, make it chown -R [01:26] and add the location of the drive, too [01:26] sudo chown -R graham:graham /media/hdb1 [01:26] and actually, the username is kelly [01:26] right [01:27] so sudo chown -R kelly:kelly /media/hdb1 === jorgp [n=jorgp@adsl-70-234-108-24.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [01:27] ok so kelly being the user name of pc sudo chown -R kelly:kelly/media/hdb1?? [01:27] uu need a space there somewhere [01:27] make sure you leave a space between kelly and the path to the file [01:28] path to the drive* [01:29] file owner is still root [01:29] can't seem to do this [01:29] isn't there another way to do this? [01:29] Pastebin your terminal [01:29] is the extra drive empty? [01:30] the extra drive is empty but formatted [01:30] the chown command should have worked [01:30] umount: only root can unmount /dev/hdb1 from /media/hdb1 [01:30] That's what sudo is for [01:30] you need to put sudo in front your command to do it as root [01:31] kelly@kelly-desktop:~$ sudo chown -R kelly /media/hdb1 [01:31] kelly@kelly-desktop:~$ umount: only root can unmount /dev/hdb1 from /media/hdb1umount: only root can unmount /dev/hdb1 from /media/hdb1 [01:31] kinda like in windows where it asks you for administrator password to do some things, in linux use sudo [01:31] that is my terminal view at the moment [01:32] why do you have that pasted into the terminal? [01:32] do this: cat /etc/fstab [01:32] paste the results here [01:32] Corbeaux: I think he just did the chown command wrong [01:32] And it really should be kelly:kelly, not just one kelly [01:33] kelly@kelly-desktop:~$ cat /etc/fstab [01:33] # /etc/fstab: static file system information. [01:33] # [01:33] # [01:33] proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 [01:33] /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [01:33] /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ext2 defaults,user 0 2 [01:33] /dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 0 [01:33] /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 [01:33] i just spotted i have an error on main drive with the o/s on it [01:34] What's that? [01:36] alright, i'm outta here. graham_100: the command is "sudo chown -R kelly:kelly /media/hdb1" just copy and paste it into the terminal. ciao, everyone [01:37] By maniacmusician [01:37] *bye [01:37] l8 [01:37] *bye* [01:37] that didn't do anything that line of command just then [01:37] you copied and pasted it? === jackrazz [n=jackrazz@209-144-236-189-dyndsl.oplink.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [01:38] sudo chown -R kelly:kelly /media/hdb1 [01:39] Oh! === H3g3m0n [n=hegemon@220-244-61-150.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [01:39] then do : ls -l /media/hdb* [01:39] graham_100: "didn't do anything" - in Linux, no output means it works. It assumes it will work, and tells you if it doesn't, unlike Windows, which assumes it will fail and gets all excited when it can do something. [01:40] lol [01:41] is xgl installed as the default desktop in the new ubuntu? [01:41] 1 [01:41] Corbeaux: aiglx, not xgl - still under discussion [01:41] kh: 2 [01:42] k === graham_100 [n=chatzill@host81-129-206-109.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [01:43] hey graham [01:43] it worked :) [01:43] ls -l /media/hdb* [01:43] ah ok [01:43] thankyou all whom helped with that problem [01:43] cool :) [01:43] awesome [01:46] anyone know anything on wireless cards? [01:47] i know i need ndiswrapper and thats as far as i have been [01:48] *try to write down what i learn* [01:48] :) [01:49] sorry, never used wireless. Don't even have ubuntu installed, just here lurking for the first time since someone said it was cool somewhere [01:49] I can't help you with ndiswrapper, but I can recommend creating a "stuff I learned" folder and copying all of these sorts of conversations into it. [01:49] Corbeaux: haha! [01:49] That amuses me for some reason [01:49] it was on a LUG list :p === cavalierwisk [n=eric@74.132.225.141] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [01:52] will ubuntu's gui run ok in a virtual machine? I saw a video of the XGL desktop on youtube and got renewed interest in it. Which is in itself a paradox since initially, i hated it due to it's lack of a fullscreen text mode [01:52] can you get belkin cards to work on ubuntu?? mine is recognised but says "belkin unknown 700e" === proppy [n=proppy@ram94-2-82-66-68-232.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === proppy [n=proppy@ram94-2-82-66-68-232.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Killed] [01:53] graham_100: i have some experience with ndiswrapper. it's a pain in the ass though. [01:53] the first thing I'd recommend is using these two pages http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation and http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List as they helped me a lot. But a new user like you may find himself in over his head with that [01:54] i think that may be the case [01:55] heh I guess I could walk you through it. are you trying to install it right now? [01:55] i have used ndiswrapper before but it caused problems on startup, just got stuck at configuring hardware and i had to re-install [01:55] i am wanting to get it working asap yeah :) === TFKyle [i=kyle@71-17-5-114.regn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Quality] [01:57] well first you start with the command "lspci". Find the line that your card is on, and copy&paste the number in front of it. [01:58] 0000:00:0b.0 Network controller: RaLink: Unknown device 0301 [01:58] i think that is it? === bcstv [n=bcs@dpc6935190052.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:00] you said the card was belkin...that looks like the manufacturer is RaLink [02:00] Just post the entire output. [02:01] it is a belkin wireless g desktop f5d7000uk ver 6000uk [02:01] lspci |grep elkin [02:01] kelly@kelly-desktop:~$ lspci [02:01] 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 730 Host (rev 02) [02:01] 0000:00:00.1 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev d0)0000:00:01.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS85C503/5513 (LPC Bridge) [02:01] 0000:00:01.1 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 82) [02:01] 0000:00:01.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 Controller (rev 07) [02:01] 0000:00:01.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 Controller (rev 07) [02:01] 0000:00:01.4 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS PCI Audio Accelerator (rev 02) [02:01] 0000:00:02.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP) [02:01] 0000:00:0b.0 Network controller: RaLink: Unknown device 0301 [02:01] 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 630/730 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter (rev 31) === fatsheep [n=ubuntu@74.130.193.56] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] [02:01] belkin card with ralink chipset? [02:02] must be [02:02] that is what i am thinking [02:02] i did something earlier and is said belkin unknown device 700e [02:02] graham_100: now do a "lspci -n". copy and paste the line with "0000:00:0b.0" in front of it [02:04] 0000:00:0b.0 0280: 1814:0301 [02:05] does that say what chipset it has? [02:06] Card: Linksys #[WMP54G v4.1] , 54mbps -- [link here|List#WMP54G v4.1] , Chipset: Ralink RT61 [02:06] the chipset part is all that matters. [02:07] so i have a lynksys card in principle? [02:07] you have a Ralink chipset. Belkin just buys them from RaLink and uses them in its cards [02:08] it also uses broadcom chipsets a lot. [02:08] ah i see so i should be able to get it to work then on this basis? [02:08] well I'm trying to find the driver. It says that it's provided on the RaLink website. [02:08] just a note graham, most hardware is created by just a few manufacturers then rebranded to hell and back by others so you will probably see this again with a belkin card that somehow gets id'ed as linksys. The chipset is all that matters and in this case, it seems to be ralink [02:09] so i need to get ndiswrapper again and install apropriate ralink driver?? [02:11] if i use the ralink rt61 driver will it work? [02:11] yes, you have to have ndiswrapper installed. "sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper-utils" [02:11] yes it should. Trying to find it right now though. === almeida [n=almeida@201.88.65.65] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:13] some reason i dont see ndiswrapper in my menus this time [02:13] it's a command line app, so you shouldn't. to get a gui for it, I think you'd install ndiswrapper-gtk [02:13] but actually [02:14] it seems that there are actually linux drivers for this chipset! [02:14] http://www.ralinktech.com/supp-1.htm [02:14] #kde [02:14] cool [02:14] i have problem on my system with wine now hang on [02:14] but they will require compiling and that's something I'm not very experienced with. should probably get on the forums if you need help with it === flummoxd [i=dilly@CPE0014bf831bd9-CM00111ae70dee.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:15] unless Corbeaux feels like doing it (being from a non-ubuntu distro, he's probably more used to compiling) [02:16] I can tell you however that you will need to have your kernel headers installed and the correct gcc [02:16] now that is where i will be totaly lost === xinchuan [n=xinchuan@bb219-75-24-161.singnet.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:17] :) yes, it's complicated. I recommend getting on to http://ubuntuforums.org and starting a thread in the general help section [02:18] as I said, your drivers are located at http://www.ralinktech.com/supp-1.htm and you have the RT61 chipset. you need to have your kernel headers and the proper version of gcc installed [02:20] well at least we have an idea of what the chipset is on the card and i have a loation of the drivers [02:21] yes. there is also a readme file, but that'll be over your head to, its very technical [02:22] I just downloaded the driver, and it also comes with a WPA supplicant, so that's good news for you === Cas_ [n=cas@218.17.234.245] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:22] i have noticed me being single track minded with windows has made linux difficult to learn for me [02:22] yeah, you'll notice that a lot in the coming months if you decide to continue with linux [02:22] what is a wpa suplicant? [02:23] it's an extra thing that allows you to use WPA encryption on your card. This often doesn't work for people, but your driver supports it, so it's a big plus [02:23] deffinately going to keep linux it's loads more stable than windows that i have noticed [02:23] i guess it's a good card i have then [02:24] :) === H3g3m0n [n=hegemon@220-244-61-150.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:24] but my advice on getting comfortable with linux is to try and use the command line as much as possible, as it forces you to learn faster. Also, whenever people tell you to run commands or do something, make sure you ask questions about what you're doing, so that you understand it, and what's actually going on with your system as you do it. [02:25] the forums that I mentioned are an excellent place for getting help and learning stuff [02:25] that's a thing i havn't been doing, i do write things down as much as i can though [02:25] maybe someday i will help others like me [02:26] yeah, that's good. You'll find that the more common commands, you'll just memorize them, because of how often you use them [02:26] Oh, I'm sure you will. I've only been using linux for 4 or 5 months [02:26] (I tried it last year for a bit, but it was too hard, and I gave it up, went back to windows. Then this year, came back, stuck with it, and got rid of my windows partition too) === yaso [n=infest@59.92.54.122] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Absolution [n=Absoluti@adsl-10-250-237.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:28] i jumped in the deep end got fed up with g/f loosing all her work with windows crashing and got rid all together [02:28] lol [02:28] haha great, it will force you to learn a lot faster. [02:28] definately g/f is learning it all faster than me lol === zelda276 [n=Zelda@207.112.103.247] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === Absolution [n=Absoluti@adsl-10-250-237.mia.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Leaving"] === fiveiron [n=fiveiron@74.137.132.103] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:32] well thats good [02:35] girls are usually more intelligent than us guys [02:35] or they argue until we say so [02:36] i'm a debian guy but forced to use redhat in work :( [02:38] ah I see. I don't really like redhat myself. dont see much advantage to them [02:38] companies just use it because of the reputation it's built up. [02:40] it's good to have someone to blame === ash211_ [n=andrew@user-11210ts.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:41] or that's the logic they gave me when i kicked a fuss about hem not using debian the first time [02:42] haha yeah that too [02:42] Well, Ubuntu offers corporate-level support from Canonical, so maybe that's a more viable solution for companies in the future [02:43] in the future yes [02:43] i saw on the website a few months ago that they are even offering certification in ubuntu now [02:43] I think that's an awesome idea [02:45] yeah. The only problem is that it has to catch on. Don't know if that will ever happen [02:46] I try to convert all my friends to ubuntu but it's hard to give them support if you don't actually use it yourself sometimes, especially when they have questions about the GUI. I guess i can tell them to come here in the future [02:46] lots of really patient people here :p [02:48] hehe yeah. I'd actually recommend the forums as well. It's not as fast, but there's a lot of cool people there as well [02:48] http://ubuntuforums.org === almeida [n=almeida@201.88.65.65] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Konversation] [02:49] something else that impressed me with ubuntu was it's one step lampp setup, well it was intended at the time, never checked if they actually did it [02:50] lampp used to take up to a full day the first time i tried [02:50] yup, that has been one of the priorities of the developers [02:51] and last I heard, it was going great [02:51] so they did it then? [02:51] well I don't know about one step [02:51] but I've seen how-to's for it on the forum, and they seemed pretty easy to follow [02:51] :) [02:52] i was thinking they would bring it down to apt-get install lamp [02:53] lol, maybe by 7.04 [02:53] it's really pretty amazing how fast development is going [02:54] agreed! === paran_ [n=paran@cl-56.sto-01.se.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === paran [n=paran@cl-56.sto-01.se.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === paran [n=paran@cl-56.sto-01.se.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === t0h [n=tommi@dsl-lprgw1-fea5de00-78.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === kishan [n=kishan@74.12.22.33] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [03:27] hi [03:28] any one teaching === kishan [n=kishan@74.12.22.33] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Leaving"] === paran_ [n=paran@cl-56.sto-01.se.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === mruiz [n=mruiz@pc-134-66-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@d235-243-188.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [03:33] I think it's pause until tomorrow right now [03:33] whatever that means [03:34] but it seems classes are mostly during the european day [03:34] means: "all times are in UTC" [03:34] yep [03:34] (I don't mind I'm CET) === nalioth is US CST [03:35] its a pause, yes. however there's #ubuntu-freshers which iirc is for general questions. there's not many in there now, but hopefully this will improve as friday reaches more people === bhale [n=bhale@brandonhale.us] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] [03:38] Yeah, I was looking for a clarification on that - why the separate channel for Friday's festivities compared to the rest of the week? [03:39] yes, that is a good question [03:39] i see much confusion ahead [03:39] Starting with me :) [03:39] Is something else going on here in the meantime, or? [03:40] at least there will be people in here to redirect everyone to #ubuntu-freshers [03:40] no, nothing going on here [03:42] Weird [03:47] you'd have to ask jono as to the reasoning. im sure somewhere in that british brain of his there's method to the madness === stryderjzw [n=stryderj@CPE000d88875ef6-CM00e06f16a5cc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [03:47] British...method...? [03:48] haha === stryderjzw [n=stryderj@CPE000d88875ef6-CM00e06f16a5cc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Leaving"] [03:49] well [03:49] if this is a classroom and -freshers is not [03:49] then it makes sense [03:49] I assume you can speak more freely in -freshers [03:51] engla, there's #ubuntu-classroom-chat as well. why not do the freshers thing there? === H3g3m0n [n=hegemon@220-244-61-150.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === fraiddo [n=fred@AAmiens-151-1-100-112.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === mwingle [n=mwingle@cpe-66-87-4-209.ut.sprintbbd.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.159.143] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === l3ap [n=lviera@190.37.243.10] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === l3ap [n=lviera@190.37.243.10] has left #ubuntu-classroom [] [04:09] confusion confusion [04:10] /join #ubuntu-confusion ;) [04:11] confusion? [04:11] is there such channel ? === nalioth thought we were here already [04:11] nalioth, LOL === tonyyarusso resists the urge to change the topic to "Welcome to confusion!" === Casanova [n=prash@unaffiliated/casanova] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [04:22] is this room safe to bring in someone to help at the moment? [04:22] I fear tonyyarusso may scare them away === tonyyarusso puts on the friendly mask === dedi_tom [n=dacian@w-cl26-105-a.eng.monash.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [04:22] jrib: All safe now! === Spiceydog [n=colin@207-255-143-164-dhcp.bfd.pa.atlanticbb.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [04:23] kk [04:23] great [04:23] Spiceydog: alright, you have https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine opened up? [04:24] yep [04:24] ok, well it says "For help on adding repositories, see the Repositories page" which is a link to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories === dedi_tom [n=dacian@w-cl26-105-a.eng.monash.edu.au] has left #ubuntu-classroom ["Kopete] [04:25] that page will give you a good understanding of how repositories work [04:25] ok [04:25] it goes on to say that you want to add the following repository: [04:25] deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main [04:25] where does it say that? [04:26] [WWW] WineHQ provides the newest versions of Wine packaged for Ubuntu. To use these, you need to add the WineHQ repository and then install Wine with Synaptic. For help on adding repositories, see the Repositories page. [04:26] 1. [04:26] Add the repository: [04:26] * [04:26] For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft): Add the following repository deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main [04:26] ok [04:27]