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tonyyarussoHow do you make a single word a wikiname link again?08:27
tonyyarussoBurgundavia, poningru, jenda: ping?08:31
poningruwhatup yo?08:32
poningruCameCase08:32
poningruand [] 08:32
poningruencase in that08:32
tonyyarussoponingru: I don't remember how to make a single word link properly (namely, Classroom)08:32
tonyyarussoSo [Classroom] ?08:32
poningruyeah iirc08:32
poningrumight be diff in moin08:32
Burgundavia["Classrom"] 08:32
poningruah cool08:33
tonyyarussoAh, thanks Burgundavia08:33
mdketonyyarusso: you can also do [:Classroom:link text]  if you want different text to link to the page08:56
mdkemorning all08:56
tonyyarussomdke: Thanks08:56
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nixternalmorning08:58
Burgundaviahey nixternal08:58
nixternalhiya Burgundavia08:58
nixternalhttp://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org/stuff/doc/help.png08:58
nixternalhow would something like that work out for the main help window for kubuntu?08:58
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mdkeThat looks seriously good, nixternal. How did you do that?09:02
nixternalgimp09:03
mdkeoh, right.09:03
nixternalthat would be easy to do with html, since that is what KHelpCenter reads09:03
mdkeis it possible to get khelpcenter to start on a customised html page?09:03
nixternalyes09:03
mdkesounds very promising09:04
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mdkenice work!09:05
Burgundavianixternal: looks good09:05
nixternali will whip up a html version that will run in khelpcenter within the next couple of days..run it past Riddell and see if he can put it in09:05
nixternalthanks09:05
Burgundaviais it possible to nerf the sidebar on teh main page?09:05
nixternali started out with inkscape, but realised i would be better off with ms paint09:05
nixternalthat side bar would be a lot of hacking at the code09:06
mdkeyou'd also have to make a new way of getting to the kde documents if you nuked the sidebar09:06
Burgundaviayep09:06
nixternalya..something for the professionals to do09:06
nixternalhopefully for kde 4 khelpcenter will get revamped09:07
nixternalit has been the same for 10 years09:07
poningruhehe09:08
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Burgundaviathe thing that worries me about KDE4 is inflated expectations09:11
Burgundaviamuch like Edgy09:11
BurgundaviaI haven't really seen anything truly cool and unique yet09:11
nixternalya, i just seen an "unreleased" demo and thats it09:12
mdkenixternal: btw, I see your categories are slightly different, can you add comments to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TopicBasedHelp/TopLevelCategories on why you selected slightly differently09:29
mdkeI like how you've combined "about" and "moving to" kubuntu09:30
nixternali grabbed the categories pretty much from that page, so i thought09:31
mdkeah, ok. There are a few differences09:32
mdkethe most significant one is separate categories for Networking and Internet09:33
mdkewhich is interesting. I'm not sure09:33
nixternalahhh ya09:33
nixternalnetwork and internet are 2 large categories by themselves...09:33
nixternalinternet carries browsing, email, and IM09:34
mdkeyeah, I see it.09:34
nixternalnetwork would be your file sharing, print sharing, samba, nfs and such09:34
mdkeI'm just not sure how far the user might understand the distinction09:34
nixternalhmm..good point09:34
nixternalim sure a few people would know..but if someone like my mom up and switched..she would be lost09:35
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mdkewhat does the kde application/start menu do in terms of categories?09:36
nixternalstock would be "Graphics, Internet, Multimedia, Office, System, Utilities"09:37
mdkei c09:37
nixternali thought about topical based off of that as well...but the System & Utilities would be very large and broad categories09:38
mdkeyeah, those aren't good categories09:39
nixternalahh well, i think i just heard my pillow scream out my name ;)09:43
nixternali will chat with you later, i need to go dream about documentation or something09:43
nixternaland then wake up and shovel/snow blow the 10 plus inches we are supposed to receive09:43
nixternalg'nite09:43
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mdkegnite nixternal09:50
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PriceChildHey12:39
PriceChildCould someone take a look http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=310276 there please? Someone's having wierd problems with the wiki :S12:39
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willvdljsgotangco, ola03:11
jsgotangcohi03:12
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jdonghey guys, a small suggestion and not meant to be taken offensively to you guys, who do great work anyway .....04:52
jdongperhaps it'd be a good idea for us to have some more formal release notes04:53
jdongi.e. look at the release notes coming with each Fedora or RHEL release/ service pack04:53
jdonga good example is Edgy's bash->dash migration.... there should've been more heads-up about that04:53
jdong(formal release notes = notable changes for the user, not just a look-at-shiny-new-GUI-features overview)04:54
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tonyyarussojdong: Interesting thought.  One thing that concerns me is that what you're proposing sounds like a pretty detailed changelog, which would be a very long document.05:41
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jdongtonyyarusso: yeah, it definitely is more changelog in nature than our current "oooh, look new shade of orange, and new clicky buttons on gedit" release notes :D06:06
jdongand harder to write06:06
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nixternali hate snow07:36
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mdkePriceChild: i'll have a look08:49
mdkeah, the classic "can't read" issue08:53
PriceChildHi there08:53
PriceChildit's fixed now08:53
PriceChildsupposedly :)08:54
PriceChildthanks :)08:54
mdkePriceChild: well, it wasn't a problem in the first place09:11
mdkestill, hopefully he will have no problem in the future09:11
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PriceChildyup :)09:15
PriceChildmatthew said thanks incase you missed it09:15
mdkegot the email, thank09:15
mdke(s)09:15
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LaserJockmdke: still up?09:50
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mdkeLaserJock: vaguely. is it quick?11:35
LaserJockoh, I just wondered if you got somebody to cover for you?11:35
mdkenot sure11:36
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mdkenot yet11:36
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LaserJockmdke: I could swing it if need be11:38
mdkeLaserJock: that would be nice11:38
LaserJockbut I've already done 2 sessions so if anybody else wants to do it they are certainly welcom11:39
LaserJocke11:39
LaserJockI just don't want to leave it hanging :-)11:39
mdkesome kind of group action would work well11:39
LaserJockyeah11:39
LaserJockbut it's about 10:00am for me11:39
LaserJockso not really any inconvenience11:39
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LaserJockI guess I'll just plan on attending, and if nobody shows up i'll give it11:40
mdkethat would be really helpful, thanks11:40
LaserJockyour notes and log have everything so it should be a piece of cake ;-)11:41
mdkehope so. If you can make it, maybe do some more practical like showing them some docs11:42
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