=== theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@host-84-9-170-12.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@d235-243-188.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === towsonu2003 [n=towsonu2@c-69-251-20-244.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia_ [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyaru1so [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === XiXaQ [n=joerlend@191-191.dsl.freewave.no] has joined #Ubuntu-doc === froud_ [n=froud@dsl-242-176-13.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:27] How do you make a single word a wikiname link again? [08:31] Burgundavia, poningru, jenda: ping? [08:32] whatup yo? [08:32] CameCase [08:32] and [] [08:32] encase in that [08:32] poningru: I don't remember how to make a single word link properly (namely, Classroom) [08:32] So [Classroom] ? [08:32] yeah iirc [08:32] might be diff in moin [08:32] ["Classrom"] [08:33] ah cool [08:33] Ah, thanks Burgundavia [08:56] tonyyarusso: you can also do [:Classroom:link text] if you want different text to link to the page [08:56] morning all [08:56] mdke: Thanks === tonyyarusso is just on his way to bed [08:58] morning [08:58] hey nixternal [08:58] hiya Burgundavia [08:58] http://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org/stuff/doc/help.png [08:58] how would something like that work out for the main help window for kubuntu? === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:02] That looks seriously good, nixternal. How did you do that? [09:03] gimp [09:03] oh, right. [09:03] that would be easy to do with html, since that is what KHelpCenter reads [09:03] is it possible to get khelpcenter to start on a customised html page? [09:03] yes [09:04] sounds very promising === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AEFAFE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:05] nice work! [09:05] nixternal: looks good [09:05] i will whip up a html version that will run in khelpcenter within the next couple of days..run it past Riddell and see if he can put it in [09:05] thanks [09:05] is it possible to nerf the sidebar on teh main page? [09:05] i started out with inkscape, but realised i would be better off with ms paint [09:06] that side bar would be a lot of hacking at the code [09:06] you'd also have to make a new way of getting to the kde documents if you nuked the sidebar [09:06] yep [09:06] ya..something for the professionals to do [09:07] hopefully for kde 4 khelpcenter will get revamped [09:07] it has been the same for 10 years [09:08] hehe === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:11] the thing that worries me about KDE4 is inflated expectations [09:11] much like Edgy [09:11] I haven't really seen anything truly cool and unique yet [09:12] ya, i just seen an "unreleased" demo and thats it [09:29] nixternal: btw, I see your categories are slightly different, can you add comments to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TopicBasedHelp/TopLevelCategories on why you selected slightly differently [09:30] I like how you've combined "about" and "moving to" kubuntu [09:31] i grabbed the categories pretty much from that page, so i thought [09:32] ah, ok. There are a few differences [09:33] the most significant one is separate categories for Networking and Internet [09:33] which is interesting. I'm not sure [09:33] ahhh ya [09:33] network and internet are 2 large categories by themselves... [09:34] internet carries browsing, email, and IM [09:34] yeah, I see it. [09:34] network would be your file sharing, print sharing, samba, nfs and such [09:34] I'm just not sure how far the user might understand the distinction [09:34] hmm..good point [09:35] im sure a few people would know..but if someone like my mom up and switched..she would be lost === mdke nods [09:36] what does the kde application/start menu do in terms of categories? [09:37] stock would be "Graphics, Internet, Multimedia, Office, System, Utilities" [09:37] i c [09:38] i thought about topical based off of that as well...but the System & Utilities would be very large and broad categories [09:39] yeah, those aren't good categories [09:43] ahh well, i think i just heard my pillow scream out my name ;) [09:43] i will chat with you later, i need to go dream about documentation or something [09:43] and then wake up and shovel/snow blow the 10 plus inches we are supposed to receive [09:43] g'nite === trappist_ [i=trappist@tra.ppi.st] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:50] gnite nixternal === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan_ [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === joachim-n [n=joachim@ACD78F6D.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan_ is now known as bhuvan === motin_ [n=motin@c-138472d5.09-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-doc === PriceChild [n=pricechi@unix0.york.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:39] Hey [12:39] Could someone take a look http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=310276 there please? Someone's having wierd problems with the wiki :S === motin_ [n=motin@c80-217-109-98.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-doc === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AED5B5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === willvdl [n=will@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === billycina [n=billy@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:11] jsgotangco, ola [03:12] hi === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:52] hey guys, a small suggestion and not meant to be taken offensively to you guys, who do great work anyway ..... [04:53] perhaps it'd be a good idea for us to have some more formal release notes [04:53] i.e. look at the release notes coming with each Fedora or RHEL release/ service pack [04:53] a good example is Edgy's bash->dash migration.... there should've been more heads-up about that [04:54] (formal release notes = notable changes for the user, not just a look-at-shiny-new-GUI-features overview) === trappist [i=trappist@tra.ppi.st] has joined #ubuntu-doc === XiXaQ [n=joerlend@153-191.dsl.freewave.no] has joined #Ubuntu-doc [05:41] jdong: Interesting thought. One thing that concerns me is that what you're proposing sounds like a pretty detailed changelog, which would be a very long document. === joachim-n [n=joachim@AC9FB03A.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:06] tonyyarusso: yeah, it definitely is more changelog in nature than our current "oooh, look new shade of orange, and new clicky buttons on gedit" release notes :D [06:06] and harder to write === willvdl [n=will@196.36.161.235] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === XiXaQ [n=joerlend@222-191.dsl.freewave.no] has joined #Ubuntu-doc === billycina [n=billy@217.205.109.249] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === icheyne [n=iain@82-44-254-96.cable.ubr08.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === icheyne [n=iain@82-44-254-96.cable.ubr08.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === willvdl [n=will@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === icheyne [n=iain@82-44-254-96.cable.ubr08.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:36] i hate snow === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ppp-232-99.25-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc === XiXaQ [n=joerlend@7-191.dsl.freewave.no] has joined #Ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === glatzor [n=sebi@p549652AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === icheyne [n=iain@82-44-254-96.cable.ubr08.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === icheyne [n=iain@82-44-254-96.cable.ubr08.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === willvdl [n=will@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ppp-82-98.25-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:49] PriceChild: i'll have a look [08:53] ah, the classic "can't read" issue [08:53] Hi there [08:53] it's fixed now [08:54] supposedly :) [08:54] thanks :) [09:11] PriceChild: well, it wasn't a problem in the first place [09:11] still, hopefully he will have no problem in the future === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-128-96.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:15] yup :) [09:15] matthew said thanks incase you missed it [09:15] got the email, thank [09:15] (s) === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ssd7 [n=q@dhcp-lp-24-77.oakland.resnet.pitt.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:50] mdke: still up? === PriceChild [n=pricechi@unix0.york.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === PriceChild [n=pricechi@unix0.york.ac.uk] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-128-96.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:35] LaserJock: vaguely. is it quick? [11:35] oh, I just wondered if you got somebody to cover for you? [11:36] not sure === mdke opens his email [11:36] not yet === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:38] mdke: I could swing it if need be [11:38] LaserJock: that would be nice [11:39] but I've already done 2 sessions so if anybody else wants to do it they are certainly welcom [11:39] e [11:39] I just don't want to leave it hanging :-) [11:39] some kind of group action would work well [11:39] yeah [11:39] but it's about 10:00am for me [11:39] so not really any inconvenience === mdke nods [11:40] I guess I'll just plan on attending, and if nobody shows up i'll give it [11:40] that would be really helpful, thanks [11:41] your notes and log have everything so it should be a piece of cake ;-) [11:42] hope so. If you can make it, maybe do some more practical like showing them some docs === mdke beds === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jjesse [i=user@69-87-142-136.async.iserv.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === motin_ [n=motin@c80-217-109-98.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-doc