[08:27] <tonyyarusso> How do you make a single word a wikiname link again?
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> Burgundavia, poningru, jenda: ping?
[08:32] <poningru> whatup yo?
[08:32] <poningru> CameCase
[08:32] <poningru> and [] 
[08:32] <poningru> encase in that
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> poningru: I don't remember how to make a single word link properly (namely, Classroom)
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> So [Classroom] ?
[08:32] <poningru> yeah iirc
[08:32] <poningru> might be diff in moin
[08:32] <Burgundavia> ["Classrom"] 
[08:33] <poningru> ah cool
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> Ah, thanks Burgundavia
[08:56] <mdke> tonyyarusso: you can also do [:Classroom:link text]  if you want different text to link to the page
[08:56] <mdke> morning all
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> mdke: Thanks
[08:58] <nixternal> morning
[08:58] <Burgundavia> hey nixternal
[08:58] <nixternal> hiya Burgundavia
[08:58] <nixternal> http://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org/stuff/doc/help.png
[08:58] <nixternal> how would something like that work out for the main help window for kubuntu?
[09:02] <mdke> That looks seriously good, nixternal. How did you do that?
[09:03] <nixternal> gimp
[09:03] <mdke> oh, right.
[09:03] <nixternal> that would be easy to do with html, since that is what KHelpCenter reads
[09:03] <mdke> is it possible to get khelpcenter to start on a customised html page?
[09:03] <nixternal> yes
[09:04] <mdke> sounds very promising
[09:05] <mdke> nice work!
[09:05] <Burgundavia> nixternal: looks good
[09:05] <nixternal> i will whip up a html version that will run in khelpcenter within the next couple of days..run it past Riddell and see if he can put it in
[09:05] <nixternal> thanks
[09:05] <Burgundavia> is it possible to nerf the sidebar on teh main page?
[09:05] <nixternal> i started out with inkscape, but realised i would be better off with ms paint
[09:06] <nixternal> that side bar would be a lot of hacking at the code
[09:06] <mdke> you'd also have to make a new way of getting to the kde documents if you nuked the sidebar
[09:06] <Burgundavia> yep
[09:06] <nixternal> ya..something for the professionals to do
[09:07] <nixternal> hopefully for kde 4 khelpcenter will get revamped
[09:07] <nixternal> it has been the same for 10 years
[09:08] <poningru> hehe
[09:11] <Burgundavia> the thing that worries me about KDE4 is inflated expectations
[09:11] <Burgundavia> much like Edgy
[09:11] <Burgundavia> I haven't really seen anything truly cool and unique yet
[09:12] <nixternal> ya, i just seen an "unreleased" demo and thats it
[09:29] <mdke> nixternal: btw, I see your categories are slightly different, can you add comments to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TopicBasedHelp/TopLevelCategories on why you selected slightly differently
[09:30] <mdke> I like how you've combined "about" and "moving to" kubuntu
[09:31] <nixternal> i grabbed the categories pretty much from that page, so i thought
[09:32] <mdke> ah, ok. There are a few differences
[09:33] <mdke> the most significant one is separate categories for Networking and Internet
[09:33] <mdke> which is interesting. I'm not sure
[09:33] <nixternal> ahhh ya
[09:33] <nixternal> network and internet are 2 large categories by themselves...
[09:34] <nixternal> internet carries browsing, email, and IM
[09:34] <mdke> yeah, I see it.
[09:34] <nixternal> network would be your file sharing, print sharing, samba, nfs and such
[09:34] <mdke> I'm just not sure how far the user might understand the distinction
[09:34] <nixternal> hmm..good point
[09:35] <nixternal> im sure a few people would know..but if someone like my mom up and switched..she would be lost
[09:36] <mdke> what does the kde application/start menu do in terms of categories?
[09:37] <nixternal> stock would be "Graphics, Internet, Multimedia, Office, System, Utilities"
[09:37] <mdke> i c
[09:38] <nixternal> i thought about topical based off of that as well...but the System & Utilities would be very large and broad categories
[09:39] <mdke> yeah, those aren't good categories
[09:43] <nixternal> ahh well, i think i just heard my pillow scream out my name ;)
[09:43] <nixternal> i will chat with you later, i need to go dream about documentation or something
[09:43] <nixternal> and then wake up and shovel/snow blow the 10 plus inches we are supposed to receive
[09:43] <nixternal> g'nite
[09:50] <mdke> gnite nixternal
[12:39] <PriceChild> Hey
[12:39] <PriceChild> Could someone take a look http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=310276 there please? Someone's having wierd problems with the wiki :S
[03:11] <willvdl> jsgotangco, ola
[03:12] <jsgotangco> hi
[04:52] <jdong> hey guys, a small suggestion and not meant to be taken offensively to you guys, who do great work anyway .....
[04:53] <jdong> perhaps it'd be a good idea for us to have some more formal release notes
[04:53] <jdong> i.e. look at the release notes coming with each Fedora or RHEL release/ service pack
[04:53] <jdong> a good example is Edgy's bash->dash migration.... there should've been more heads-up about that
[04:54] <jdong> (formal release notes = notable changes for the user, not just a look-at-shiny-new-GUI-features overview)
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> jdong: Interesting thought.  One thing that concerns me is that what you're proposing sounds like a pretty detailed changelog, which would be a very long document.
[06:06] <jdong> tonyyarusso: yeah, it definitely is more changelog in nature than our current "oooh, look new shade of orange, and new clicky buttons on gedit" release notes :D
[06:06] <jdong> and harder to write
[07:36] <nixternal> i hate snow
[08:49] <mdke> PriceChild: i'll have a look
[08:53] <mdke> ah, the classic "can't read" issue
[08:53] <PriceChild> Hi there
[08:53] <PriceChild> it's fixed now
[08:54] <PriceChild> supposedly :)
[08:54] <PriceChild> thanks :)
[09:11] <mdke> PriceChild: well, it wasn't a problem in the first place
[09:11] <mdke> still, hopefully he will have no problem in the future
[09:15] <PriceChild> yup :)
[09:15] <PriceChild> matthew said thanks incase you missed it
[09:15] <mdke> got the email, thank
[09:15] <mdke> (s)
[09:50] <LaserJock> mdke: still up?
[11:35] <mdke> LaserJock: vaguely. is it quick?
[11:35] <LaserJock> oh, I just wondered if you got somebody to cover for you?
[11:36] <mdke> not sure
[11:36] <mdke> not yet
[11:38] <LaserJock> mdke: I could swing it if need be
[11:38] <mdke> LaserJock: that would be nice
[11:39] <LaserJock> but I've already done 2 sessions so if anybody else wants to do it they are certainly welcom
[11:39] <LaserJock> e
[11:39] <LaserJock> I just don't want to leave it hanging :-)
[11:39] <mdke> some kind of group action would work well
[11:39] <LaserJock> yeah
[11:39] <LaserJock> but it's about 10:00am for me
[11:39] <LaserJock> so not really any inconvenience
[11:40] <LaserJock> I guess I'll just plan on attending, and if nobody shows up i'll give it
[11:40] <mdke> that would be really helpful, thanks
[11:41] <LaserJock> your notes and log have everything so it should be a piece of cake ;-)
[11:42] <mdke> hope so. If you can make it, maybe do some more practical like showing them some docs