=== rmjb [n=richard@cuscon23820.tstt.net.tt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === amnesia [n=amnesia@p549DDB31.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:21] re === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp28-152.lns1.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:23] pbuilder doesn't want to build my package, probably because it has - in the name [12:23] is that normal? -dev packages have - too [12:24] - is fine, whats the error? [12:24] I have an output of ~15 lines from it, where should I paste it [12:24] dpkg-deb: building package `ircp-tray' in `../ircp-tray_0.6.1-1_i386.deb'. [12:24] tar: -: file name read contains nul character [12:24] these should suffice too.. [12:25] hrm not sure sorry [12:25] the .deb is not created, but everything else seems to be okay [12:26] amnesia: I've seen the warning from tar also sometimes but it did build [12:26] it must be something else [12:26] geser: okay, but no errors afterwards [12:27] have you looked in /var/cache/pbuilder/results/ for the debs? === Lathiat always sets BUILDRESULT to $PWD [12:27] annoys me hunting for deb sin /results/ [12:27] geser is right [12:27] but why did it tell me to look in ../ [12:28] that path is not relative to where you starrt [12:28] grrrr [12:28] it's from inside the chroot [12:28] or as the french say. aarrrrggh [12:28] they get copied to results before the chroot is destroyed [12:28] (from a king of queens episode) [12:28] so it actually realy built, thanks [12:29] now to upload to REVU, and have somebody doublecheck it... [12:30] do I really need to do only: dput -P ircp-tray_0.6.1-1_source.changes [12:31] make sure you upload to revu and not the archive :) === dous [n=dous@124.107.248.86] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:32] I don't think I can do that [12:33] first timer here [12:34] ok I ctrl-c'ed the last upload and it doesn't like me now... :) [12:34] as I didn't upload to revu myself yet, I can't help you [12:34] ok, thanks anyway [12:35] amnesia: what is the problem? [12:35] check your /etc/dput.cf file, make sure [revu] is the default [12:35] Uploading via ftp ircp-tray_0.6.1-1.dsc: Error '553 Could not create file [12:35] rmjb: it is thanks [12:35] hmm [12:36] Adri2000: it suggests to use dcut [12:36] trying.. [12:36] I don't know what dcut is [12:36] but you can try dput -f [12:36] same [12:38] umm... you've added your key to the revu uploaders? [12:38] Note: This problem might be caused by files already existent on the server. === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:39] For the official Debian upload queues, the dcut(1) utility can be used to remove stale files from unsuccessful uploads. [12:39] that doesn't help either...ok, Google === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:43] LaserJock: what happens when I cancelled an upload an getting the above messages [12:43] I should be able to overwrite it somehow I guess === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:47] shit it's getting late, bye === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:49] guess he forgot about the time === ash211 [n=andrew@adsl-152-169-197.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ash211_ [n=andrew@adsl-152-169-197.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@keele-a131-155.airyork.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TRiBiX [n=TR@84-121-245-72.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:19] hi! [01:20] ...and "Uninterupted [sic] Ubuntu-holic Joy Time" is why he's part of the MOTU trinity [01:20] i've change the shortcut keys and now the down key doesn't work [01:20] any solution? [01:21] TRiBiX: I'm sorry, to what packaging does that issue pertain? [01:21] sorry about the spelling [01:21] we can forgive you, LaserJock [01:22] I'd feel much more like a PhD candidate if I could spell properly [01:22] ;-) [01:22] it's kinda hard to sound all impressive with such horrible spelling and grammar [01:23] don't worry, the weight of your words resounds throughout IRC & beyond [01:23] hahaha [01:23] what a joke [01:24] I do what I can, and probably more then I should [01:24] crimsun ubuntu6.06 [01:24] there are imminently more qualified people to do most of the things I do [01:24] not I [01:24] but somebodie's got to do the real work [01:24] TRiBiX: I mean what specific portion of the packaging for that app? [01:25] hey, anyone know how to get ld to find a library... say, -llua50, if it's missing a .so symlink? [01:25] Simon80: the -dev package should provide it [01:25] uf, I'm a beginner in linux, and I'm Spanish [01:25] so then this is a bug? [01:26] crimsun I don't understand you so well [01:26] gonna double check, but I couldn't find a lua-dev package [01:26] Simon80: if it doesn't, then yes [01:26] liblua50-dev [01:26] sweet === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:26] laha, missed that, thanks [01:26] saves me time [01:27] /usr/lib/liblua50.so [01:27] it's there [01:27] TRiBiX: are a asking a packaging infrastructure question or a support question? If the latter, please use #ubuntu-es. [01:27] yeah, I didn't know there was a -dev [01:27] TRiBiX: are you asking, rather [01:27] was looking for lua-dev === jorgp [n=jorgp@adsl-70-234-108-24.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:27] it should normally be SONAME-dev [01:27] like liblu50-dev [01:27] or often liblua-dev === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-103-226.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:29] crimsun I changed shortcut key combination using a menu in the taskbar [01:29] yeah, I think it's cause there's a lua package that I figured to look for lua-dev [01:29] TRiBiX: ok, please use #ubuntu-es. [01:32] crimsun ok, thanks much better xD === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-103-226.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === proppy [n=proppy@ram94-2-82-66-68-232.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:36] hoy ! === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@221.216.191.52] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TRiBiX [n=TR@84-121-245-72.onocable.ono.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-103-226.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === proppy hugs bhale === jorgp [n=jorgp@adsl-70-234-108-24.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:49] argg, I just realized I was running Dapper === LaserJock head-desks [01:50] LaserJock: hm? [01:50] why is that a problem? [01:50] I thought I was on Edgy [01:50] it was feisty just yesterday :/ [01:51] nice regressions [01:51] soon you'll be running warty [01:51] I know [01:51] I've never run warty === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:51] I should try it some time. are the .isos still around? [01:51] LaserJock: i take it your got your hacked boxes back up then... even if it's a back in times box [01:51] probably on old-releases.u.c [01:52] well, it's a fresh install of whatever disk I had around [01:52] which happens to be Dapper [01:52] apparently [01:52] shippit huh? [01:52] edgy cds are rare [01:52] I think they're at the bottom of my suitcase [01:53] I've got one right here... says Pengo on the label :P [01:53] yeah, I didn't hang out long enough to grab one at Mt. View [01:53] unfortunate [01:53] yeah, I was looking forward to it === havoc [n=havoc@saturn.chaillet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:57] hey [01:57] chillywilly is on the phone asking me to ask you guys: is there a kernel header package on the install CD? === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-123-177.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:58] I'm gonna guess not [02:00] no idea, maybe you could check [02:00] ajmitch: heh, you're the guy he said to ask, but I'm guessing not based on: ftp://mirror.d-jacobs.com/ubuntu/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.list === ajmitch shrugs [02:01] I'm not at my box right now, I can't check [02:02] LaserJock, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/warty/ [02:02] how big is Edgy? [02:03] like a full mirror? [02:03] chillywilly is asking [02:03] havoc, just the main component is around 1.7GB [02:03] ah, that's not bad [02:04] havoc, universe is probably 5-10 times bigger === lophyte [n=dsulliva@ubuntu/member/lophyte] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:08] ok, chillywilly's gonna bring a box over, I need to mirror universe for him, where can I rsync it? [02:10] I can suck down ~20GB in no time [02:10] ok, he's changing his mind again [02:10] havoc, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+archivemirrors [02:11] theCore: thanx :) === rpedro__ [n=rpedro@89-180-130-41.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:22] chillywilly messed up his server, badly :( [02:23] poor chap [02:23] yeah, gonna be a long night [02:23] ...fir him [02:23] for him [02:24] he's got a dapper mirror on DVD so I need to get and burn a dapper ISO for him [02:24] a mirror of universe, why didn' I think of that? [02:25] the issue is this server has the sangoma T1 card in it [02:25] and he has to build a wacked driver from source [02:25] and apparently it's been problematic in the past [02:25] fun [02:26] and the machine is like an 80lb. Penguin Computing 3U machine, so it's not easily moved, or he'd just bring it here [02:26] dapper is 6.06? [02:26] yeah [02:26] ok [02:26] sheesh, stupid animal names [02:26] lol === mr_pouit_ [n=silk@LAubervilliers-151-12-125-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:27] my fave is when people say something like I'm using Dapper 6.06 LTS instead of Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, or Ubuntu 6.06 "Dapper Drake" LTS [02:27] I like pbuilder, by the way, it's one thing gentoo doesn't have with ebuilds [02:27] for dep checking [02:28] I just generally love heavily automated things like that, and make distcheck that automake outputs [02:28] automation is hot [02:28] ...getting a bit off topic though [02:28] heh [02:29] I juest upgraded to 6.10 yesterday, I've been slackin [02:29] just [02:29] meh, 6.10 is good and bad [02:29] I don't like it when I can't install it cause of a "No root partition selected" bug [02:29] nor do I like nautilus spinning my cpu time [02:29] I don't like FF2 [02:29] I do :) [02:29] but I'll learn to deal [02:30] may be slow though, cpu wise, I'm not sure [02:32] I can't wait for the first Mozilla release of the flash plugin [02:32] maybe it won't suck [02:32] (now that Adobe gave them access to the source) [02:32] umm... Adobe did no such thing, unless I missed big news [02:32] they did [02:33] a partial release anyway, not full source [02:33] the source share you're probably thinking of involves a javascript interpreter [02:33] NOT flash [02:33] for the purposes of producing a more stable flash plugin [02:33] ah, I thought it was for flash [02:33] I did too, for a minute [02:33] guess not [02:33] but I pay attention to news like that [02:34] I don't, so I'll take your word for it :) [02:34] I hate computers ;) [02:34] http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/ <--havoc, read second post [02:34] so I read it through, and after a while, I figured out that it wasn't flash... to be fair, it was kind of unclear [02:35] yay, they gave mozilla access to JS, woopty-fucking-do [02:35] lol, I love it how he bluntly says, NO, they didn't open source flash, they didn't buy out mozilla, they didn't pledge to put Mitchell Baker on the Moon [02:37] cd ffmpeg-0.4.9-pre1 && mkdir -p _inst/lib && ./configure --prefix=`pwd`/_inst && make installlib [02:37] /bin/sh: ./configure: Permission denied [02:38] ignore the dirtiness, all I'm asking is why permission is denied in pbuilder here, but not if I do a straight debuild [02:38] Simon80: is configure executable? [02:39] in the tarball [02:39] oh, in the tarball? probably [02:39] I really would know if it wasn't, I think [02:39] good point, but I'm doubting it [02:39] nevertheless, that may be a workaround [02:40] screw it, I'll just add sh in front, see if that works around it [02:40] hehe :) [02:40] I JUST WANT MY DAMN PACKAGE! lol === ash211_ [n=andrew@user-11210ts.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:41] phew, just got done with the first meeting with my boss since "the break in" [02:42] physical or network? [02:42] network [02:43] ow [02:43] anyway, hopefully tomorrow the uni will unban my nic [02:43] you're employed there? [02:43] grad student [02:43] what happened, anyhow? [02:43] I forgot about a stupid test user I made [02:44] and normally I don't allow connections from outside the department [02:44] anyway [02:44] I used to question the feasibility of brute-forcing SSH accounts too :) [02:44] yeah? [02:44] indeed, that's kind of shitty, brute-forcing the acct AND pass [02:44] until my auth.log one day grew to 60MB before rotation :) [02:45] it's just sad because my boss is one of the bigges proponents of of *nix on campus [02:45] from then on, I put on fail2ban with every sshd I deploy... [02:45] and fits the IT guys all the time saying it's more secure [02:45] then *I* got and doe something stupid [02:45] s/doe/do/ [02:45] lol, yeah, I'd hate that, i'm a big linux proponent [02:45] LaserJock: do they honestly think their windows is any more secure? [02:45] yep [02:45] heh [02:46] cause they can install all kinda of crap on it to "protect" them [02:46] I remember at my high school a few months ago [02:46] we busted a kid with SYSTEM-account access [02:46] the most amusing part is how he did it.... [02:46] priviledge escalation in symantec client security :) [02:46] I hate windows so much, so dirty [02:46] the irony... [02:47] the culture is dirty, the fs hierarchy is dirty [02:47] basically the culture [02:47] the worst part is everything you try to do to 'secure' windows backfires :) [02:47] well, my boss was nice about it anyway and just said not to let it ever happen again [02:47] it's like a bazaar, without the collaboration, people just do shit, it's this mishmash of crap all pasted onto an OS that is already a mishmash of crap [02:48] so um, what was the acct:pass? [02:48] well, they weren't the same, but similar enough [02:48] that after attacking the snot out of my computer they got in [02:49] an auth log is really something to see [02:49] yeah [02:49] shit, my auth.log has fails in it [02:49] what was that fail2ban? [02:49] we have an iMac here that I found 1 IP attacking sinc the 15th [02:49] Simon80: it looks through auth.log, anyone with >= X failed logins gets an iptables ban :) [02:50] nice [02:50] yeah, currently on my home router, there's around 50 IP's blacklisted [02:50] I don't even know how to do that myself [02:50] jdong: addressing your earlier question: 2.6.19's emu10k1 has quite a few capture problems (in addition to the slew of hda-intel ones) [02:50] (and those bans lift every 10 minutes) [02:50] crimsun: I see, good to know [02:50] lol [02:51] holy fuck, 50 IPs in 10 mins? [02:51] yeah [02:51] that's a lot of brute forcing [02:51] there's days that my connection simply gets flooded with SSH login attempts [02:51] my 5mbit downstream completely saturated [02:51] that's not cool [02:51] not at all [02:51] really? [02:51] yeah [02:51] i've never seen it that bad [02:51] it's terrible [02:51] you should start using some doorman style obfuscation [02:51] i get attempts all the time [02:51] but its nothing horrid [02:52] so they don't know you're using ssh [02:52] certainly wouldnt use more than about 50-100kbit/s [02:52] Lathiat: sure the usual attempt here and there, but some bad days.... [02:52] i was on dialup.. with a /24 routed down it... that didn't work so well [02:52] terrible is 1000 Mb/s of DDoS at your machine. [02:52] ate the entire link with just noise [02:52] ;p [02:52] I've even got a daemon that looks for incoming service abuse and goes out for a new DHCP IP if it gets bad :) [02:52] heh [02:52] though it's kinda irritating when a LAN system is in the middle of a download :D [02:52] haha [02:52] would be [02:53] why dont you just firewall them? ;p [02:53] i find this usefull: [02:53] lol [02:53] idn if it's just my ISP, but the network I'm on is hostile [02:53] $IPT -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -m state --state NEW -m recent --set --name SSH [02:53] $IPT -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -m state --state NEW -m recent --update --seconds 60 --hitcount 10 --rttl --name SSH -j DROP [02:53] you can't save the bandwidth by firewalling, dude [02:53] Simon80: yer but its no worse than them hitting an ip thats not in use... [02:53] I once installed snort on my gateway for kicks [02:54] but had to disable it because it filled up /var too fast :) [02:54] lol [02:54] windows boxes... plug a unpatched SP1 directly to the cable modem, it'll BSOD in less than 15 seconds [02:54] and boot up with a few hundred extra desktop icons :) [02:54] lol [02:54] I find that horrible [02:55] yeah, it is awful [02:55] 15 secs though? you sure? lol [02:55] average, I mean [02:55] 15 secs tops [02:55] is it that low now? [02:55] that's insane [02:55] that's funny [02:55] I've forgotten to unplug the cable a few times when reformatting my XP boxes [02:55] you could have a race, lol [02:55] the setup can't even finish before it's attacked [02:56] what? the setup? you mean like the post reboot stuff, right? [02:56] like, not off the install CD [02:56] Simon80: no, off the install CD [02:56] Simon80: setup goes out for a DHCP when it detecs the NIC [02:56] around 10 minutes before install usually finishes and goes for the final reboot [02:56] lol, the installer has enough windows on it to get owned then? [02:57] yep [02:57] hahaha [02:57] can't say ubuntu's any better, but at least you get something that is as good, not just as insecure [02:57] the most interesting thing you can do is install a good windows IDS like BlackICE and connect the system to the public network [02:57] for the logs? [02:57] you get so many interesting signature hits [02:58] I still renew my blackice licenses for that alone :) [02:58] geeze, I'm never going to use a network again ;/ [02:58] lol [02:58] :) === paran_ [n=paran@cl-56.sto-01.se.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] my gosh, I'm upgrading to edgy at ~ 1.2 M/s [03:04] normally it's like 30k [03:04] that's nice, I guess [03:05] you sure you're not pulling from the CD? [03:05] :) [03:05] yeah [03:05] I don't have an edgy cd right now [03:05] whee :) [03:05] I should burn one I suppose [03:05] I only get that from my apt-cacher :) [03:05] I tried to share the DVD over NFS to my little sister's machine but it wasn't very reliable [03:05] would stop working every once in a while, interfering with the update [03:06] and through all the backporting I've been doing I wouldn't be surprised if my apt-cacher is nearly a complete mirror :D === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:06] heh [03:06] Requests 19240 (70.63%) [03:06] cache hit rate :) [03:06] 60% for actual packages [03:07] apt-cacher? [03:07] as in a caching proxy repository [03:07] ? [03:08] Simon80: correct [03:09] Simon80: as in I'd specify deb http://gateway/apt-cacher/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy ...... [03:09] is there software for that or is it a custom job? [03:09] Simon80: it's in APT [03:09] apt-cacher [03:09] ahhh [03:09] cool [03:09] it can either register as CGI with apache [03:09] or run on its own port [03:09] it's really really handy if you have multiple ubuntu boxes on a LAN [03:10] for backports I have to keep my feisty deb-src pretty fresh and apt-cacher helps prevent me from hammering archive.u.c too much :) [03:11] jdong@jdong-laptop:~/src/ktorrent$ ssh server du -sh /var/cache/apt-cacher [03:11] 1.9G /var/cache/apt-cacher [03:11] actually, the cache is a lot smaller than I expected === paran [n=paran@cl-56.sto-01.se.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] oh geeze, Ubuntu Christmas Edition [03:19] 3.2GB DVD based off of Feisty [03:19] what a present :/ [03:19] LaserJock: so they included emacs? === jdong ducks and hides === paran [n=paran@cl-56.sto-01.se.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] jdong: not even emacs is that big [03:20] well, maybe will all the standard goodies included ;-) [03:20] :) [03:20] but I'd actually like a comprehensive ubuntu dvd at times :) [03:20] 3.2gb? [03:20] LaserJock: automatix, lots of illegal codec, etc [03:20] damn [03:21] ajmitch: linux mint is actually a bit handy :D [03:21] ajmitch: automatix bleeder, even arnie said not to use it :-) [03:21] various other things that are illegal to distribute [03:21] I want my dang wmv's ;-) [03:23] "DHT: Got -4294967295 potential peers for torrent ...." [03:23] hmm, gee.... [03:24] guess the database is taking back some of the peers it gave me over the past year.... [03:24] heh === jdong opens up source code for a look-see === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:24] now, 10 bucks says I won't be able to reproduce this again :) [03:27] aha! stupid LAN peer finder === jdong pokes upstream [03:27] wait no... unofficial plugin... === paran_ [n=paran@cl-56.sto-01.se.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === havoc [n=havoc@saturn.chaillet.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["bbl"] [03:31] heh, this guy said he was finished building a GUI when he got his glade file done :-) [03:31] this is so much fun [03:31] lol === Hawkwind [n=SoS@ulteo/community-leader/Hawkwind] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU [03:32] ok, swapfiles over smbfs are obviously not smart..... [03:33] lol [03:33] networked swap in general is probably not a great idea, I would imagine [03:33] you know curiousity just begs you to try it :D [03:34] lol [03:34] I had an NFS home directory at the job before my current [03:35] 1TB of free space on it too [03:35] not that I used anything more than small amounts of space [03:35] jdong: heh, I'm glad somebody tests these things [03:35] and I'm glad it's not me [03:35] lol === xopher [n=xopher@unaffiliated/xopher] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:42] ajmitch: you ever use equivs? [03:43] nope [03:43] hmm, this sounds so promising: "NOTE: this should be considered a crude hack to work around awkward situations, not a normal solution." [03:44] it is a hack [03:44] apparently it's a hacky way of creating meta packages === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:44] you're basically saying that the package is installed, without the benefits of dpkg tracking the package contents === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:47] yeah, I got that part, I just wondered if it spit out a decent beginner's metapackage [03:48] I think it spits out a binary package with Provides: === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:51] anyone here using ccache with pbuilder? [03:52] I just got that working... so I feel like spreading the word, because everyone should use ccache, it's that good === FeistyFawn [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xopher [n=xopher@unaffiliated/xopher] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:53] Simon80: sure, have been for months [03:53] good stuff [03:54] hmm, I'm not sure if it would be much help for me [03:54]