| crimsun | ryanakca: feisty will have 2.6.20 | 12:21 |
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| crimsun | ryanakca: feisty _currently_ has 2.6.19-rc | 12:21 |
| jdong | oh sure label the groundhogs grumpy why don't you.... | 12:34 |
| === nixternal burns Herd 1 | ||
| nixternal | wish it wasn't a live cd, but oh well | 12:38 |
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| ryanakca | crimsun: ah, kk | 12:55 |
| ryanakca | jdong: lol.... grouchy groundhogs? | 12:55 |
| ryanakca | jdong: or: (gabby, gainful, gamy, gaping, garrulous, gaudy, gently, giant, giddy, gigantic, glamorous, gleaming, glib, glorious, glossy, godly, good, goofy, gorgeous, graceful, grandiose, gratis, great, greedy, grean, groovy, grotesque, grouchy, grumpy, guarded, guiltless, guillible, gusty, guttural) groundhog | 12:59 |
| ryanakca | s/grean/green | 12:59 |
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| jdong | ryanakca: I can't help but notice that more than half the listed words are negative in nature | 01:09 |
| jdong | which prompts me to ask again, what do you have against groundhogs | 01:09 |
| jdong | people these days are so discriminatory | 01:09 |
| jdong | like the other day at the grocery store... I was looking at the bags | 01:10 |
| ryanakca | jdong: lol, nothing, I was just copying off of http://www.wordbroker.biz/adjectives/ | 01:10 |
| jdong | the paper bags were brown... and they were flimsy | 01:10 |
| jdong | the plastic ones were stronger but they were white | 01:10 |
| jdong | sheesh | 01:10 |
| jdong | talk about society going downhill | 01:10 |
| ryanakca | so... paper bags are made of paper, and paper is flimsy? | 01:10 |
| ryanakca | and plastic takes 100000s of years to decompose... and they didn't feel like waisting dye to color them | 01:11 |
| ryanakca | and they didn't feel like bleaching the paper, which is probably better for the environment, and is cheaper :) | 01:11 |
| jdong | pfft, listen to the grumpy one make up excuses :) | 01:12 |
| ryanakca | lol | 01:12 |
| === jdong notes how puzzling bzr remove-tree sounds.... | ||
| === jdong wonders if they could've picked a better name | ||
| ryanakca | lol | 01:13 |
| ryanakca | bzr in itself is puzzling | 01:13 |
| jdong | ryanakca: have you used git before? | 01:14 |
| ryanakca | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+spec/grumpy-groundhog I presume it will be like Debian's sid? never being released? | 01:14 |
| jdong | ryanakca: only debian sid actually exists | 01:14 |
| ryanakca | lol | 01:14 |
| ryanakca | nope, never used it | 01:14 |
| jdong | and sid is a half-sane backporting source :) | 01:14 |
| ryanakca | lol | 01:15 |
| jdong | ooh, http://ddaa.net/blog/bzr/repository-branch-tree | 01:15 |
| jdong | this just makes your head spin even more :) | 01:15 |
| ryanakca | when compiling kernel "Optimize for size (Look out for broken compilers!)" ... does ubuntu have a broken compiler, or will it be safe to have "-Os" passed to the compiler instead of "-O2" | 01:16 |
| === ryanakca gulps and clicks the link | ||
| jdong | ryanakca: _I_ have never broken anything using -Os | 01:17 |
| jdong | ryanakca: with regards to the kernel in ubuntu dapper and edgy | 01:17 |
| ryanakca | kk... *checks that* | 01:17 |
| jdong | not gonna comment about my gentoo days :) | 01:17 |
| ryanakca | well, I'm compiling 2.6.19 from source for edgy :) | 01:18 |
| ryanakca | lol | 01:18 |
| jdong | aww, why not use feisty kernels? | 01:18 |
| ryanakca | meh... dunno... I have nothing else to do :) | 01:18 |
| ryanakca | actually, I could be learning python, or merging, or triaging bugs... but, meh :) | 01:19 |
| ryanakca | anywais, last time I compiled a kernel was back in 2004 iirc :D | 01:21 |
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| nixternal | hrmm..just noticed that the herd 1 cd installs the 2.6.17-10-generic kernel..any reason why it isn't the 2.6.19 kernel? | 03:37 |
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| Jucato | hi Hobbsee | 05:55 |
| Hobbsee | hey Jucato | 06:17 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: I'm downloading the feisty ISO... I'm not very confident with my rysnc'ing skills yet :) | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: awwww | 06:33 |
| Jucato | well it's almost done... after just 6 hours :) | 06:34 |
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| Hobbsee | *ouch* | 06:43 |
| Hobbsee | *downloads an iso in about 25 min, with a download accelerator* | 06:43 |
| Jucato | bah! I only have 512kbps :P | 06:43 |
| Hobbsee | ouch | 06:44 |
| Hobbsee | this is cable, fortunately | 06:44 |
| Jucato | ah.. PPPoE DSL... | 06:44 |
| === Hobbsee gets to go to work now, yay! :D | ||
| Jucato | btw nixternal mentioned something earlier about the herd1 cd's using the 2.6.17 kernel? | 06:44 |
| Hobbsee | they do, yes | 06:45 |
| Hobbsee | oh wait | 06:45 |
| Hobbsee | they shouldnt be | 06:45 |
| Hobbsee | i doubt they are, but i havent been here all day | 06:45 |
| Jucato | ok now I'm confused hehehe | 06:45 |
| nixternal | they do Hobbsee, or the current is really edgy and not feisty | 06:45 |
| Jucato | ok I'll ask in #ubuntu+1 too | 06:45 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: the latter is the case | 06:45 |
| === nixternal fires up VMware | ||
| Hobbsee | nixternal: d-i wasnt working as of yesterday, not sure if it is today | 06:45 |
| Jucato | nixternal: ah... that would probably explain why the rsync'ed ISO I have still says Edgy and 2.6.17 | 06:46 |
| Hobbsee | hence it's partly-edgy partly-feisty | 06:46 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 06:46 |
| nixternal | Jucato: i just noticed my rsync as well | 06:46 |
| Jucato | hm.. with no way of telling that it's feisty at all :) | 06:46 |
| Hobbsee | the dates it was burned will | 06:46 |
| nixternal | one sec | 06:46 |
| === Jucato is glad he's not the only one testing it on VMWare :P | ||
| Hobbsee | but yeah - jus twait | 06:46 |
| nixternal | im booting the image now | 06:46 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 06:46 |
| nixternal | ok bye ;) | 06:46 |
| Jucato | :) | 06:46 |
| Jucato | nixternal: when you do lsb_release -a, does is still say Edgy? | 06:47 |
| nixternal | still booting | 06:48 |
| Jucato | ah :) | 06:48 |
| Jucato | sorry to have disturbed you. almost midnight there, right? | 06:48 |
| nixternal | it sure does | 06:48 |
| nixternal | still says edgy ;( | 06:48 |
| nixternal | rediculous | 06:48 |
| Jucato | heh... | 06:48 |
| Jucato | oh my download is over in a few minutes.... now I can check if I messed up rsync :) | 06:49 |
| Jucato | yep... didn't mess up my rsync after all :) | 06:54 |
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| freeflying_ | Riddell: ping | 11:16 |
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| nixternal | /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off | 03:20 |
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| nixternal | 2.6.19-7-generic kernel | 03:20 |
| nixternal | been a long time since i have seen one of these | 03:20 |
| Hobbsee | what was the fix last time? | 03:21 |
| nixternal | i can't remember | 03:21 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 03:21 |
| nixternal | im talking quite a few years ago | 03:21 |
| nixternal | right before i took a Linux break | 03:21 |
| Hobbsee | ahhhh | 03:21 |
| nixternal | is this a known issue? maybe i should try the -386 image | 03:22 |
| Hobbsee | no idea | 03:22 |
| Hobbsee | and the -386 wouldnt help | 03:22 |
| nixternal | hrmm..i just noticed there isn't a single-user mode/safe mode in grub either | 03:22 |
| Hobbsee | yes,. not sure if taht's a bug, but it's been reported | 03:23 |
| nixternal | thank god for the 2.6.17 kernel image | 03:23 |
| nixternal | the 2.6.19-5 kernel worked, and it has since regressed since the -6 image | 03:23 |
| freeflying_ | nixternal: seems it was fixed | 03:35 |
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| nixternal | arg | 06:13 |
| nixternal | thought we were in here | 06:13 |
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| imbrandon | Lure: thanks for the help on the last 2 kubuntu sessions | 07:08 |
| nixternal | damn imbrandon you have packaging 101 next...load up on the dew now bud | 07:11 |
| guglielf | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PackagingBasics <--- could this be a good point to start with packaging kubuntu apps? | 07:19 |
| Lure | imbrandon: no problem | 07:21 |
| nixternal | guglielf: actually check out the Ubuntu Packaging Guide located in KHelpCenter or https://help.ubuntu.com as well | 07:21 |
| guglielf | nixternal: k, thanks | 07:22 |
| nixternal | no problem | 07:22 |
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| fdoving | imbrandon: did you do anything concerning the flash installer in konq? | 09:38 |
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| Riddell | hi all | 11:12 |
| Riddell | nice week? | 11:12 |
| robotgeek | howdy Riddell , hope you had a good vacation | 11:12 |
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| jdong | oh thank goodness Riddell's back. man, we need you. everything is broken and everyone's uploading more breakages help!! (j/k) | 11:16 |
| jdong | more seriously, how are you, Riddell :) | 11:16 |
| gnomefreak | lol | 11:17 |
| gnomefreak | Riddell: did you have a good holiday? | 11:18 |
| Riddell | good enough thanks | 11:19 |
| Riddell | any sign of Herd 1? | 11:20 |
| gnomefreak | no not yet | 11:20 |
| Riddell | did koffice 1.6.1 get out? | 11:22 |
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| gnomefreak | i heard it was uploaded but nothing has been released in repos yet | 11:22 |
| Riddell | they have, and it was announced on the dot too | 11:23 |
| gnomefreak | 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages | 11:24 |
| gnomefreak | i had to add the edgy repo to get it. but uploads seemed to have stopped for the week due to freeze and open week | 11:25 |
| Riddell | oh aye, how was open week? | 11:25 |
| gnomefreak | good turn outs everything went fairly smooth | 11:26 |
| Riddell | are we now mortal enemies with suse? | 11:27 |
| jdong | Riddell: no, hurd 1 is still a long ways off, there's several engineering side issues that have not been addressed yet... | 11:27 |
| gnomefreak | jdong: can they unfreeze if its gonna be that long? | 11:28 |
| jdong | gnomefreak: it's gonna be difficult for sure :) | 11:28 |
| gnomefreak | im waiting for universe packages atm but seems noone is letting them through | 11:28 |
| jdong | but if Debian can thaw out that quickly after a release hurd shouldn't be that bad | 11:28 |
| gnomefreak | although they say universe is open | 11:28 |
| jdong | universe never freezes for an alpha CD | 11:29 |
| jdong | only main does | 11:29 |
| gnomefreak | jdong: the package was uploaded wed. its now sat. night still no sign | 11:29 |
| gnomefreak | lol | 11:29 |
| gnomefreak | matter of fact no new packages since freeze for any of the archives | 11:30 |
| gnomefreak | oh sorry initramfs-tools and one other one just as critical | 11:30 |
| gnomefreak | brb dinner | 11:31 |
| apokryphos | hi Riddell; we missed you ;-) | 11:35 |
| Riddell | hi apokryphos baby | 11:37 |
| apokryphos | how was Croatia? | 11:38 |
| apokryphos | my parents went there a few months ago actually, for a conference. Some beautiful things there | 11:38 |
| Riddell | for the most part it was closed | 11:38 |
| apokryphos | also didn't realise how close the border was to St. Petersberg | 11:38 |
| Riddell | they only open in the summer it seems | 11:38 |
| Riddell | St Petersberg? In Russia? | 11:39 |
| apokryphos | yes | 11:39 |
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| apokryphos | noo, just realised it was Estonia where they went :) | 11:40 |
| apokryphos | they went to Croatia a few weeks after that; dang, it's Estonia that's near Russia, of course. /me kicks his bad geography-lacking brain | 11:41 |
| Riddell | phew, thought I was going mad | 11:41 |
| Riddell | well I'm knackered, off to bed | 11:41 |
| apokryphos | 'night | 11:41 |
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