[12:16] <Zaire> is there an easier to setup e-mail server thats also got a gui or web interface?
[12:16] <Zaire> also as secure as postfix
[12:18] <Zaire> ??
[12:19] <flaccid> not that i know of Zaire
[12:20] <Zaire> great :S
[12:20] <flaccid> why don't you just learn postfix?
[12:21] <Zaire> cause at the moment I really don't have the patients
[12:21] <NiklasofVienna> hello everyone
[12:21] <NiklasofVienna> hello everyone /me is here
[12:22] <steph> anyone knows asterisk software ?
[12:23] <Zaire> I might have the patients but Ive been having issues with my websites functionality and it has me at my wits end
[12:23] <flaccid> ur a doctor :[
[12:23] <flaccid> well if there is anything i can help with
[12:24] <mnoir> steph: prolly the guys in #asterisk do
[12:24] <steph> asterisk is pbx server
[12:28] <Zaire> so how the hell does bind9 work anyway...I got it installed and configured but thats as far as I could get
[12:32] <Agent_bob> Zaire bind9 help in this channel seem to be, how you say? non-existant.    maybe try ##linux
[12:33] <Zaire> alot of help seems to be non-existant in here -_-
[12:33] <Zaire> if anyone is interested in computer case modding though should check out my site ...I need more ppl lol http://www.bcmodding.com
[12:33] <flaccid> there is a bind channel
[12:33] <flaccid> but your question has an answer as long as the bind manual...
[12:34] <flaccid> bind is a dns server
[12:34] <Zaire> I don't read manuals...they generally confuse me more cause they never get straight to the point
[12:34] <flaccid> you won't to know it works, can you be specific?
[12:34] <Bubba_Gump> true
[12:34] <Bubba_Gump> but you learn so much more :D
[12:35] <flaccid> well you aint going to get anywhere if you refuse to read documentation
[12:35] <Zaire> not really since it confuses me
[12:35] <flaccid> then its a lack of intelligience
[12:35] <flaccid> to learn this stuff, you need to read
[12:35] <Zaire> no thats crappy manuals
[12:35] <julle> is ther anyone with resolution problems?
[12:35] <Bubba_Gump> get a good manual :)
[12:35] <flaccid> well the manual for bind is certainly not crappy..
[12:35] <julle> i can only get 800x600 but my xorg.conf is correct
[12:36] <flaccid> start learning dns: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_name_system
[12:36] <Zaire> and if not getting anywhere that way were true I wouldn't be using linux at all....ive never read a single manual for linux its all on my own
[12:36] <flaccid> that directly relates to your level of ability ...
[12:37] <rance> hey I've got a strange problem with sound on a new kubuntu install, the sound card is detected and the device is loaded, alsamixer LOOKS ok, but no sound, what am I missing
[12:37] <Bubba_Gump> true, to drive a car, you need only instruction
[12:37] <Bubba_Gump> to build one, you need manauls
[12:37] <Bubba_Gump> start reading
[12:37] <flaccid> exactly...
[12:37] <flaccid> "anyone can drive a car"
[12:37] <flaccid> and don't expect to be spoonfed as a substitue for reading!
[12:39] <mordof> hmm
[12:39] <Bubba_Gump> rance: what type of sounds are you missing?
[12:40] <rance> all of them, its like there is no volume, but all the knobs are turned up I can find
[12:41] <RoKFiT> does kubuntu have an auto updater?
[12:41] <rance> but there is something wrong, KsCD has the volume at 40% and its locked so that it can not be changed
[12:41] <flaccid> ur not missing sounds, ur not hearing them?
[12:41] <flaccid> RoKFiT: yes adept
[12:41] <rance> yes, as far as I can tell somehow I have no volume
[12:41] <RoKFiT> do i have to compile kubuntu?
[12:42] <RoKFiT> does kubuntu need to be compiled?
[12:42] <flaccid> !multimedia > rance
[12:42] <rance> and yes I double checked all the cords to make sure they were in the right places
[12:42] <Zaire> where the hell do you get off talking to me like that to btw
[12:43] <flaccid> RoKFiT: no
[12:43] <RoKFiT> is kde4 the current version?
[12:43] <Bubba_Gump> Zaire: we don't, we only help
[12:43] <flaccid> who are you talking to Zaire?
[12:43] <Zaire> not from what I can tell
[12:43] <rance> !multimedia
[12:43] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[12:43] <Bubba_Gump> Zaire: and, speaking from experience, direticing to manuals, is a from of help
[12:44] <Zaire> I don't have the time nor the patients to be screwing around with a manual right now
[12:44] <RoKFiT> is kde4 the current version?
[12:44] <flaccid> Zaire: were you expecting a magic trick to solve your problem?
[12:44] <RoKFiT> for kbuntu?
[12:45] <flaccid> RoKFiT: the current version of what?
[12:45] <flaccid> no
[12:45] <Zaire> obviously not but then I guess you can't stop trying to make this really personal with me
[12:45] <Agent_bob> Zaire we know..    and we don't have the time or patients to mess with anyone that wont read the manuals
[12:45] <RoKFiT> kde
[12:45] <flaccid> kubuntu uses 3.5x iirc
[12:45] <flaccid> Zaire: i have nothing personal against you br0
[12:46] <RoKFiT> does kubuntu have any desktop effects?
[12:46] <flaccid> besides not reading manuals :)
[12:46] <flaccid> RoKFiT: yes, lots
[12:46] <flaccid> RoKFiT: it has lots if you install xgl
[12:46] <RoKFiT> awesome
[12:46] <RoKFiT> compiz, beryl, others?
[12:47] <Agent_bob> Zaire you can get as angry as you want.  fact is. when people like you "who wont try to learn how, only ask some one eles to do it for them"  asks people like... well flaccid for example, for the answers you wont even try to find; it kinda pisses us off too.
[12:47] <flaccid> not sure, i'm sure more is possible, RoKFiT
[12:48] <RoKFiT> is kubuntu, kubuntu edgy, is that the version i want?
[12:48] <flaccid> agreed bob. we've all done our time (reading). everyone has to do it
[12:48] <Agent_bob> ah  didn't see him leave....
[12:48] <flaccid> RoKFiT: use edgy
[12:48] <RoKFiT> okay
[12:48] <RoKFiT> thanks
[12:48] <RoKFiT> brb
[12:49] <flaccid> yes thats the one RoKFiT, then follow the xgl guide for edgy
[12:49] <flaccid> !xgl
[12:49] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:49] <flaccid> ^^^ should be edgy specific instructions
[12:50] <Chemist> hi
[12:51] <flaccid> time for another coffee
[12:51] <flaccid> heya
[12:52] <flaccid> installing updates on dialup is v fun
[12:52] <bradley747> qualcuno parla italiano??
[12:54] <flaccid> !italia
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about italia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <flaccid> !italy
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about italy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <Agent_bob> !it
[12:55] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:55] <RoKFiT> i dont have a dvd burner, so which iso's will i need for 64bit?
[12:56] <RoKFiT> just the one?
[12:56] <RoKFiT> desktop-amd64.iso?
[12:56] <Agent_bob> if you want the 64bit version use the 64bit install iso
[12:57] <Agent_bob> 32bit will work
[12:57] <RoKFiT> but there is a desktop and alternate
[12:57] <Agent_bob> !alternate
[12:57] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[12:58] <RoKFiT> kool!
[12:58] <ranmaru> ciao
[12:58] <Agent_bob> !it | ranmaru
[12:58] <ubotu> ranmaru: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:58] <Agent_bob> !en
[12:58] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:02] <julle> with IM messenger is the most similar to msn messenger? aMSN or Gaim?
[01:04] <angasule> julle: amsn is almost the same than msn messenger
[01:04] <julle> angasule: ok thx
[01:07] <RoKFiT> why do i want edgy and not dapper drake
[01:08] <flaccid> julle: i like kopete IM
[01:08] <flaccid> RoKFiT: updated packages for xgl stuff
[01:08] <RoKFiT> dapper doesn't have that?
[01:08] <flaccid> xgl better in edgy as they fixed some stuff up
[01:09] <RoKFiT> are they going to fix it up for dapper?
[01:09] <flaccid> it has it, but its not as stable as edgy for compiz etc.
[01:09] <flaccid> i don't think so. edgy was made for a reason and this is one of them
[01:09] <RoKFiT> dapper seems more popular according to the forums, is it?
[01:10] <mohammed> in system settings , monitor & display control modules doesn't load ! what to do to fix the situation ?
[01:10] <flaccid> its been out longer so thats probably why its more popular
[01:10] <RoKFiT> oh edgy is just the new version?
[01:10] <Jucato> mohammed: try this command: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-guidance"
[01:10] <RoKFiT> what is the difference in the two?
[01:11] <Aondo> RoKFiT  yes it is the new version
[01:11] <mohammed> ok
[01:11] <Aondo> with updated packages, kernel and alot of stuff
[01:11] <RoKFiT> i just don't want to lose anything i might not get
[01:12] <Aondo> how can you lose it if you dont have it yet? :)
[01:12] <ubuntu_> can i mount the hd after i startup from the cd pls?
[01:12] <RoKFiT> i mean i dont want to install edgy and find out that dapper is what i wanted
[01:13] <Aondo> you probly want edgy
[01:14] <mohammed> should i close the session now ?
[01:14] <Jucato> mohammed: you don't need to restart anything except system settings
[01:14] <RoKFiT> what is the channel edubuntu intended for?
[01:14] <flaccid> RoKFiT: you want edgy!
[01:14] <flaccid> !edubuntu
[01:14] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[01:15] <RoKFiT> oh
[01:16] <ubuntu_> i installed ati drivers and messed up my bootup.. can i mount the hd to undo the changes to my xorg file having started up from the cd?
[01:16] <mohammed> sorry , but it didn't work
[01:16] <flaccid> ubuntu_: yes
[01:16] <flaccid> ubuntu_: or do it from shell by booting into single user mode
[01:17] <ubuntu_> how pls? regular mount syntax only gives me an empty mount point.. or maybe i just can't remember the right device for my root partition..
[01:18] <justin1278> hello
[01:19] <Jucato> mohammed: sorry, I don't know anything else
[01:19] <justin1278> Can anyone help me, I would like to know how I can change the look of my taskbar
[01:19] <flaccid> ubuntu_: start with sudo fdisk -l to look
[01:19] <mohammed> never mind , I'll keep track on it . thanks :)
[01:19] <flaccid> !mount > ubuntu_
[01:19] <noiesmo> justin1278, in kde
[01:19] <justin1278> noiesmo, yes
[01:20] <noiesmo> justin1278, right click and go configure panel
[01:20] <noiesmo> taskbar that is
[01:20] <justin1278> ok
[01:20] <justin1278> also i have seen people make their taskbar look similar to the Vista taskbar
[01:20] <justin1278> how can I do that?
[01:23] <ubuntu_> flaccid, ty.  i did have the wrong device. lemme try with the correct one
[01:24] <justin1278> Anyone know how I can make my taskbar look similar to Vista?
[01:24] <noiesmo> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=35445 justin1278
[01:24] <RoKFiT> how does kubuntu install packages?
[01:25] <Jucato> apt-get, aptitude, Adept, etc
[01:25] <justin1278> noiesmo, how do I use it?
[01:25] <RoKFiT> adept is gui?
[01:25] <Pupeno> any recommendation of a program to easily rip DVDs into theora files ?
[01:25] <Pupeno> ogg theoras.
[01:26] <flaccid> adept is a gui yes
[01:27] <noiesmo> justin1278, that was a quik google search go to www.kde-look.org
[01:27] <helge> I have to run "check.sh" in terminal, How do I do it? Whats the magic word?
[01:28] <flaccid> helge: chmod +x /path/to/check.sh && /path/to/check.sh
[01:28] <flaccid> replace /path/to with the absolute path of check.sh
[01:28] <helge> Thanks alot!
[01:29] <flaccid> np
[01:29] <Agent_bob> RoKFiT dpkg is  the debian package manager.  apt aptitude adept synaptic and dselect are all frontends to dpkg    (ubuntu is based on debian)
[01:29] <flaccid> the first one is just chaning it to executable. it may already be executable
[01:30] <Agent_bob> flaccid or ./path with a relitive path ?
[01:30] <flaccid> sure
[01:30] <flaccid> relative to pwd
[01:30] <Agent_bob> jes
[01:31] <Jucato> Adept is a frontend to Apt which is a front end to dpkg which is the Debian package manager, which is....
[01:31] <Agent_bob> Jucato does adept call apt-get ?
[01:31] <Jucato> Agent_bob: yep
[01:31] <Jucato> iirc
[01:31] <Agent_bob> hmmmmm
[01:31] <Chemist> list
[01:32] <Agent_bob> /
[01:33] <soulrider> has anyone seen TK around ?
[01:33] <soulrider> !seen tk
[01:33] <ubotu> tk is on IRC right now!
[01:33] <soulrider> =/
[01:33] <soulrider> he aint showing up on my list mr bot
[01:35] <Jucato> soulrider: maybe he's on another channel. do a /whois
[01:35] <Jucato> ok he's not on any channel lol
[01:35] <soulrider> yeah
[01:35] <soulrider> stupid bot
[01:35] <Jucato> well, the bot said "on IRC", not "in #channel" :P
[01:36] <Jucato> so, technically, he's correct
[01:36] <Jucato> s/he's/it's
[01:37] <Agent_bob>  /whois is not a bot call it's an irc client command
[01:40] <Flosoft> hey
[01:40] <Hawkwind> soulrider: You were looking for me yesterday ?
[01:41] <Flosoft> all my IAX clients crash when they try to access the audio device
[01:41] <Flosoft> I figured out it has something to do with iaxcomm
[01:41] <Flosoft> any solution for this?
[01:41] <ubuntu_> ok so i was pretty sure that ati drivers backed up my xorg.conf but it turns out that it didn't... comptuer won't boot up from hd anymore.. how prog do i use to set up my xorg.conf again without reinstalling everything pls?
[01:41] <larson99> linux rocks
[01:41] <ubuntu_> s/how/what
[01:42] <helge> Silly me I have tried quite a few times now, but I cant make, I try to run the script(?) called check.sh and it is placed here: /home/helge/Desktop/Ny katalog   ...HELP!
[01:42] <pointwood> any ubuntu members here?
[01:42] <flaccid> ubuntu_: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[01:42] <ubuntu_> i'm sure it will once it's working.  when it's not working, it's not too rockin
[01:42] <flaccid> ubuntu_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[01:42] <flaccid> i thinkt hats it
[01:43] <flaccid> chmod +x "/home/helge/Desktop/Ny katalog/check.sh" && "/home/helge/Desktop/Ny katalog/check.sh"
[01:43] <flaccid> ^^ helge
[01:43] <william> is there an mplayer plugin for firefox under kubuntu?
[01:44] <helge> Thanks, I copy these and save them so that I can learn!
[01:44] <helge> There is an " in the end is that supposed to be there?
[01:44] <Agent_bob> "<ubuntu_> ok so i was pretty sure that ati drivers backed up my xorg.conf but it turns out that it didn't... comptuer won't boot up from hd anymore.."   <---  i wish someone would explain to me how xorg.conf and the computer booting form the hd are even remotely related...
[01:44] <flaccid> yeah helge
[01:44] <helge> OK!
[01:44] <ubuntu_> flaccid: xorg serer not installed but there is an "xorg". still though, the xorg.conf has the ati stuff.. can't recall if it said ati stuff in there before i installed the ati drivers though
[01:44] <tuna> Hello
[01:45] <tuna> I need help with Adept
[01:45] <tuna> ...again...
[01:45] <Agent_bob> flaccid it backwards  xserver-xorg
[01:45] <flaccid> ah yeah
[01:45] <soulrider> oh damn
[01:45] <tuna> For some reason, whenever I try to dowload packages, I get this error message:
[01:46] <soulrider> i got disconnected like 5 mins ago
[01:46] <tuna> http://supertunaman.com/adept_not_working.PNG
[01:46] <ubuntu_> agent_bob: after installing the ati proprietary drivers the machine hangs at startup when kde is supposed to start.  i'm assuming something's not happy within xorg? or something.
[01:46] <Agent_bob> soulrider see Hawkwind
[01:46] <helge> Flaccid:
[01:46] <helge> Path to current working directory contains critical characters
[01:46] <helge> like an asterisk, backslash, quotes or spaces. Since some system
[01:46] <helge> tools will not cope with such characters this script will abort now.
[01:46] <helge> I guess it wasnt to be.
[01:47] <helge> I guess it wasnt meant to be.
[01:47] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ that's X not starting   has nothing to do with the system booting up.
[01:47] <tuna> oops
[01:47] <tuna> wrong link
[01:47] <tuna> here it is: http://supertunaman.com/adept_not_working
[01:47] <tuna> Can somebody help?
[01:48] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ i was making the point that the system boots up when it loads the kernel and mounts the root partition.  every thing after that is a process not part of the boot-up.
[01:48] <ubuntu_> agent_bob: but no key combos work. it seems to freeze up on the blue background "kubuntu" screen, right before login screen
[01:49] <william> whats the plugin to watch video through firefox?
[01:49] <flaccid> tuna: run this from konsole: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:49] <flaccid> tuna: if there is an error, pastebin it
[01:49] <ubuntu_> agent_bob: ok, point taken.  but it's still not playing nice.
[01:50] <helge> Flaccid: It worked when I renamed the folder to just "ny" Thanks!
[01:50] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ so boot into failsafe,recovery,single-user mode and reconfigure your xserver
[01:50] <noiesmo> william, mozilla-mplayer - MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla
[01:50] <ubuntu_> i have an ati x1950pro. xorg asks what x server driver... vesa?
[01:50] <noiesmo> william, its in multiverse repos
[01:50] <Jucato> flaccid: is tuna trying to upgrade?
[01:50] <ubuntu_> agent_bob, am trying right now. i just mounted the hd after live cd startup
[01:51] <caf_> ah, hello
[01:51] <Agent_bob> isn't there a generic ati driver.
[01:51] <flaccid> Jucato: don't know. but this will find the problem
[01:51] <caf_> thank you guys for this OS
[01:51] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ and you chrooted into the mounted partition so you could configure X ?
[01:51] <Jucato> flaccid: won't dpkg --configure -a or apt-get -f install do as well?
[01:51] <Jucato> just wondering really
[01:52] <flaccid> wouldn't mind seeing the actual problem first before using -f
[01:52] <Jucato> ah
[01:52] <william> says its already installed
[01:52] <Agent_bob> flaccid -f == fix missing
[01:52] <william> mozilla-mplayer
[01:53] <tuna> -quote- [17:49]  <flaccid> tuna: run this from konsole: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -/quote-
[01:53] <flaccid> yeah we dont know the problem yet
[01:53] <tuna> Sorry, was away
[01:53] <Jucato> Actually -f == fix broken
[01:53] <helge> Why do this happen? I tried to put sudo in first as well to no avail:
[01:53] <helge> You are either not running this script from the console
[01:53] <helge> or simply do not have console ownership.  Requirement failed.
[01:53] <helge> Unable to determine XFree86 Version. Stopping now.
[01:53] <helge> What Xfreeversion am I running? I am in edgy
[01:53] <flaccid> helge: i have no idea what you are running
[01:53] <Agent_bob> flaccid apt-get install -f  is never a bad idea
[01:54] <flaccid> kubuntu does not use xfree86, it uses xorg
[01:54] <helge> Ok, so no use in this then
[01:54] <flaccid> bob, i just like to know the problem before it gets fixed :)
[01:54] <helge> Flaccid: But thanks
[01:54] <Agent_bob> kubuntu does not (by default) use xfree86, but XFree86 can be installed on *buntu.
[01:55] <flaccid> np
[01:55] <larson99> why would anyone chose xFree86 over xorg?
[01:55] <helge> Well the thing is that I would try to check out a better driver to my video card from ATI, I dont think the driver I have now is any good
[01:55] <flaccid> !ati > helge
[01:56] <caf_> xorg is fast
[01:56] <Agent_bob> flaccid that command you posted wont tell you what the problem is.   it will in fact do reletivly the same thing.
[01:56] <caf_> I can tell you that, I'm on a 300 MHz using a mach64
[01:56] <flaccid> lets see bob
[01:57] <ubuntu_> agent_bob, i'm going to restart from hd to see if it worked. ty for the help. hopefully brb.
[01:57] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ wait
[01:57] <ubuntu_> ok
[01:57] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ one Q    did you use a "chroot" command ?
[01:57] <ubuntu_> i uninstalled the ati drivers via adept too
[01:58] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ chroot ?
[01:59] <danny500> is there a program for Linux were I can take MP3 files and convert them into a format that a normal cd player without mp3 capabilities can read.
[01:59] <caf_> it's you_!
[01:59] <lexi_> hi @all. need some help. just upgraded initramfs-tools against edgy-proposed. kernel does not want to boot any longer after that.  complains modprobe can?t open shared object file  libc.so.6. anyone with that problem ?
[01:59] <Jucato> danny500: burn the MP3's as an audio cd in K3b
[01:59] <Jucato> danny500: you need libk3b2-mp3 to do that
[02:00] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ why i'm asking is if you didn't reconfigure that in a chroot env   then you reconfigured the xorg.conf that the live cd was using.    in that case if you didn't copy that from /etc/X11  to  /mountpoint/etc/X11   you have changed nothing.
[02:00] <ubuntu_> agant_bob: no i wasn't able to write to hd but i was gonna cross fingers and hope that just uninstalling ati drivers would do the trick <blushes a bit>
[02:00] <tuna> Ok, i just ran the code I was told to
[02:00] <danny500> so It'll do the conversion automatically?
[02:00] <tuna> I got this error:
[02:00] <Jucato> danny500: yep
[02:00] <danny500> ok thanx
[02:01] <tuna> Setting up k3d (0.5.12.0-1ubuntu2) ...
[02:01] <tuna> Traceback (most recent call last):
[02:01] <tuna>   File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 1348, in ?
[02:01] <tuna>     main()
[02:01] <tuna>   File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 1342, in main
[02:01] <tuna>     rv = action.run(global_options)
[02:01] <tuna>   File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 865, in run
[02:01] <Jucato> !pastebin | tuna
[02:01] <ubotu> tuna: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:01] <tuna>     pkg.read_version_info()
[02:01] <tuna>   File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 535, in read_version_info
[02:01] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_  ok   well if it doesn't work.    try booting to runlevel 1 and doing the reconfig from there.  then just issue an    init 2       much simpler.
[02:01] <ubuntu_> agent_bob: good thing you know what's going on here. lemme get a pen :)
[02:01] <tuna>     raise PyCentralError, "package has no field Python-Version"
[02:02] <tuna> __main__.PyCentralError: package has no field Python-Version
[02:02] <tuna> dpkg: error processing k3d (--configure):
[02:02] <tuna>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:02] <Jucato> tuna stop
[02:02] <tuna> Setting up gnupg (1.4.3-2ubuntu3.1) ...
[02:02] <tuna> Setting up katapult (0.3.1.4-0ubuntu2~edgy1) ...
[02:02] <tuna> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:02] <tuna>  k3d
[02:02] <tuna> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:02] <tuna> tuna@tuna-laptop:~$
[02:02] <tuna> Oops...
[02:02] <tuna> I'm sorry, everyone
[02:02] <tuna> I'm an idiot. :(
[02:02] <ubuntu_> boting to runlevel 1 = single user mode?
[02:02] <ubuntu_> *booting
[02:02] <Agent_bob> yes
[02:03] <ubuntu_> ok
[02:03] <tuna> So now that that's behind us, what do I do now?
[02:03] <tuna> *is still embarrased*
[02:03] <ubuntu_> how about that use of adept to uninstall the ati package.. did that work on my hd or the live partition probably?
[02:04] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ most likely on the then running live CD
[02:04] <flaccid> !find single user
[02:04] <ubotu> Found: k6fftwgel-dev, k6fftwgel2, k7fftwgel-dev, k7fftwgel2, libapache-singleton-perl (and 3 others)
[02:04] <helge> I know for a fact that I have an Sapphire Radeon 9250, but Edgy says that I have ATI Technologies Inc M9+ 5C61 Radeon Mobility 9200 , Should I care or what?
[02:04] <flaccid> dang
[02:04] <Agent_bob> which is full of sound and fury signifing nothing.
[02:04] <flaccid> yeah
[02:04] <flaccid> !ati
[02:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:05] <tuna> g2g
[02:05] <loxs> Hey anyone here manage to get ubuntu working with AD?
[02:05] <tuna> goodbye, everyone
[02:05] <winbond> whats the command to see what distros ati driver supports?
[02:05] <loxs> keep getting this error kinit(v5): Cannot resolve network address for KDC in requested realm while getting initial credentials
[02:06] <delight> !beryl
[02:06] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:06] <delight> !beagle
[02:06] <ubotu> beagle: indexing and search tool for your personal data. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.9-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 804 kB, installed size 3160 kB
[02:06] <ubuntu_> ok off ty try to reconfigure in rl 1. ty again. brb to let you know either way.
[02:07] <delight> does someone know how to disable beagle from autostart in kubuntu ?
[02:07] <ubuntu_> very kind of you
[02:07] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ ffr,  you can use  chroot  on the live CD to do work on the installed system
[02:08] <Agent_bob> but how need a cd when you have a bootable *nix
[02:10] <Agent_bob> delight i can tell you the most likely place to look.   things that start at boot time start from /etc/rc#.d/*   and things that start from kde's startup dir are in ~/.kde/autostart/   or something like that.   other things that kde autostarts are global /etc/kde*   or /usr/share/kde*
[02:13] <delight> Agent_bob thnx ... I'll give it a shot
[02:17] <delight> Agent_bob /etc/xdg/autostart/beagled.desktop i guess maybe thats the placee
[02:20] <Agent_bob> !xdg
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xdg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:21] <Agent_bob> you using xdg ?
[02:21] <Jucato> xdg - Freedesktop.org spec for menus, afaik
[02:21] <Agent_bob> but if so then yes probably
[02:21] <Agent_bob> menu-xdg - freedesktop.org menu compliant window manager scripts
[02:34] <guiden> is there a page, that I provide some sort of translation funktions of other pages in a different language, I don't want to read hard tutorials in english when I'm drunk and stuff
[02:40] <Admiral_Chicago> guiden: rosetta maybe
[02:41] <caf_> heh, english is hard to read when drunk for english people
[02:41] <caf_> :)
[02:45] <flaccid> wondering about a way to install a server install of ubuntu from say livecd image within a vm
[02:46] <nickv111> I just posted this to #ubuntu,  but no response, so here goes.
[02:46] <nickv111> When I boot into the install CD, my sound card is recognized as an HDA ATI SB, and all of the mixers recognize it as so. However, when I boot into my recently-installed system, the sound card is recognized as a Realtek ACL883. Weirdest of all, when I do cat /proc/asound/cards, it returns "HDA ATI SB" correctly when in my install, which is correct. I really just wish my sound card were recognized right.
[02:47] <caf_> hey, you should see what kubuntu does to my AWE64.
[02:48] <winbond> !ati
[02:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:48] <nickv111> It's an ATI sound card
[02:49] <caf_> an ATI sound card?!
[02:49] <nickv111> Yes, an ATI sound card.
[02:49] <caf_> wow I never knew that existed
[02:49] <nickv111> It's a chipset.
[02:49] <nickv111> Laptop.
[02:49] <caf_> Oooh.
[02:50] <nickv111> Grr. I just reinstalled to fix this problem, it worked for a while, and then stopped
[02:50] <nickv111> I just want it to not recognize it as a Realtek ACL883, and instead recognize it /properly/ as an HDA ATI SD
[02:50] <nickv111> Erm, SB
[02:50] <nickv111> They use the same driver, I think.
[02:50] <nickv111> snd_hda_intel
[02:50] <nickv111> And, like I said, catting /proc/asound/cards returns the right card
[02:50] <nickv111> I just don't know why this happens.
[02:51] <guiden> Admiral_Chicago ok
[02:53] <caf_> heh, I have to probe my card everytime I boot.
[02:54] <caf_> I don't know how to have kubuntu do it automatically.
[02:54] <nickv111> How do you probe your card?
[02:54] <nickv111> alsaconf?
[02:54] <caf_> modprobe
[02:54] <nickv111> Ah
[02:54] <nickv111> Check out /etc/modules
[02:54] <nickv111> Just add your modules to that
[02:54] <caf_> I have to sudo modprobe snd_sbawe every day
[02:55] <winbond> what do i need to install before installing fglrx?
[02:55] <winbond> in 6.10
[02:55] <ubuntu> How does one use sudo commands from within KDE. meaning not going to shell
[02:55] <nickv111> caf_: echo "snd_sbawe" >> /etc/modules
[02:55] <robotgeek> !ati > winbond
[02:55] <robotgeek> ubotu: kdesu
[02:55] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[02:56] <robotgeek> ubuntu: kdesu
[02:56] <winbond> robotgeek:TY i read that , its pretty bad guide
[02:56] <ubuntu> so is kdesu a utility?
[02:56] <nickv111> winbond: I disagree. I read it, and it's a very comprehensive and good guide. What about it do you not understand?
[02:56] <ubuntu> where in menu can I find it?
[02:57] <nickv111> ubuntu: It's not in the menu. Go Run->kdesu command
[02:57] <JohnFlux> ubuntu: what programs do you want to run?
[02:57] <winbond> nickv111: i understand everything , it just doesnt work after the installation
[02:57] <robotgeek> ubuntu: hmm, you usually type kdesu konqueror or something similiar at (alt + f2) menu
[02:57] <JohnFlux> ubuntu: as root
[02:57] <ubuntu> ah
[02:57] <ubuntu> ok
[02:57] <JohnFlux> if you use alt+f2  you can always use the "run as user"  gui
[02:57] <JohnFlux> under Options>>>
[02:58] <ubuntu> I can't seem to use run
[02:58] <ubuntu> I am running Kubuntu live cd
[02:59] <ubuntu> edgy
[02:59] <robotgeek> ubuntu: okay, the password is ubuntu, i think
[02:59] <ubuntu> when I click "run command"
[02:59] <ubuntu> nothing happens
[02:59] <JohnFlux> press  alt+f2
[02:59] <ubuntu> again
[02:59] <ubuntu> nothing happens
[02:59] <JohnFlux> hmm
[03:00] <JohnFlux> that's screwed up
[03:00] <JohnFlux> ubuntu: what are you trying to run as root anyway?
[03:00] <ubuntu> should alt+f2 open the run command menu?
[03:00] <JohnFlux> yes
[03:00] <ubuntu> I am trying to run konquerer I guess to copy a flash plugin to mozilla directory
[03:01] <ubuntu> also, I am having weird issues when I try to shut down the computer (when running live kubuntu
[03:01] <ubuntu> it never shuts down but hangs
[03:01] <ubuntu> :(
[03:02] <JohnFlux> hmmm
[03:02] <cmweb> ubuntu you should be in ubuntu
[03:02] <cmweb> i mewan #ubuntu
[03:02] <ubuntu> I was running mandriva one 2007 before this
[03:02] <ubuntu> and it worked flawlessly out of the box
[03:02] <ubuntu> is kubuntu less stable?
[03:02] <JohnFlux> ubuntu: yeah I don't know what's going on
[03:03] <JohnFlux> ubuntu: it's strage
[03:03] <JohnFlux> strange
[03:04] <newToKubuntu> ok
[03:04] <newToKubuntu> One more question
[03:04] <winbond> what repo do i need to install the restricted modules?
[03:05] <newToKubuntu> how can I get beryl and xgl packages?
[03:05] <robotgeek> winbond: restricted
[03:05] <newToKubuntu> and is it xgl or aiglx that I should go with?
[03:05] <newToKubuntu> I always thought xgl was better performance but many distros suggest using aiglx
[03:06] <Murrlin> evening all
[03:06] <winbond> !restricted
[03:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:07] <apokryphos> I get significantly begger perfomance with Xgl rather than aiglx or nvidia drivers
[03:07] <apokryphos> perhaps that'll change though; a lot of people think aiglx is *the* future
[03:07] <newToKubuntu> u mean with nvidia drivers?
[03:08] <winbond> !repositories
[03:08] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:12] <newToKubuntu> ok
[03:12] <newToKubuntu> so if I add the repositories to beryl and do a fetch
[03:12] <newToKubuntu> it should update my local list
[03:13] <newToKubuntu> and if I do a search for beryl. it should show it
[03:13] <newToKubuntu> right?
[03:13] <qbit> yup
[03:13] <newToKubuntu> sweet
[03:13] <newToKubuntu> thats nice
[03:13] <newToKubuntu> I should give it a try
[03:14] <newToKubuntu> thanks for all the help
[03:14] <qbit> I tried it but couldn't get it to work
[03:14] <Admiral_Chicago> newToKubuntu: i think beryl servers are still dwon
[03:14] <qbit> video card only has 128 megs ram though, and I suspect that is why
[03:15] <caf_> damnit, I can't play lego island on WINE yet :(
[03:17] <Launchpad> evening guys
[03:17] <caf_> maybe it's my card
[03:17] <Launchpad> i found a server edition on my kubuntu cd// weeee
[03:18] <caf_> I remember DX5 had MMX emulation of D3d
[03:18] <caf_> but wine doesn't have that
[03:18] <Launchpad> but im going to buy that offical ubuntu book from barnes and noble
[03:19] <ubuntu> hello
[03:19] <ubuntu> can anyone help me install my video drivers?
[03:20] <winbond> what video card?
[03:20] <ubuntu> nvidia 7600 gs
[03:20] <caf_> Wine has come a long way though.
[03:21] <winbond> ubuntu: did you read the guide?
[03:21] <caf_> I remember when it couldn't run a thing, now it can play Doom!
[03:21] <ubuntu> no
[03:21] <winbond> !nvidia
[03:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:22] <ubuntu> can i set ubuntu to auto-login root?
[03:23] <winbond> ubuntu: not a good idea
[03:23] <mrg> agent: i found the backup of the original xorg.conf, swapped that in and presto. thnx again.
[03:24] <ds_> I need help...How do I mount my CD drive...It says it has a mount point (optical disc), but df in console didn't show it
[03:24] <mrg> <-- ubuntu_ or whatever it is the live cd names the default user
[03:27] <ubuntu> how do i get updates?
[03:30] <winbond> in which repo is the "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17.10-generic"
[03:30] <Agent_bob> ubuntu "can i"  is a question of your ability.   'is it possable to setup linux to automaticaly login root'  short answer 'yes'  long answer however would include reasons that it's generally discurraged as well as some of the defaults that would have to change.
[03:31] <winbond> ubuntu: you will have a icon come up y the clock that will say there are new updates
[03:31] <ubuntu> Agent_bob: can you inform me as to how to go about doing this?
[03:31] <winbond> ubuntu: just click it, anter password and fetch updates ,
 how do i get updates? <-- you enable the repositories and refresh the database  the automatic updateder should take care of the rest...
[03:31] <Agent_bob> ubuntu i can.
[03:32] <mhasan> hi
[03:32] <Agent_bob> ubuntu do you want console auto-root login or gui auto-root login ?
[03:32] <ubuntu> gui
[03:32] <mhasan> when I try to run any command as root from kubuntu, it gives me "conversation with su failed" error
[03:32] <mhasan> does anyone have any ideas why?
[03:33] <robotgeek> mhasan: using sudo?
[03:33] <mhasan> from run
[03:33] <mhasan> in kde
[03:33] <mhasan> i use kdesu whatever
[03:33] <mhasan> it asks me for password
[03:34] <mhasan> when I give it root password
[03:34] <mhasan> it says conversation with su failed
[03:34] <mhasan> and exits
[03:34] <robotgeek> mhasan: what do you mean root password?
[03:34] <robotgeek> mhasan: did you enabled root account?
[03:34] <Agent_bob> ubuntu there is a gui way.  look in the menu      or alternatively.  you can edit /etc/kdm/<something>  and enable root login then set root as the default autologin
[03:34] <mhasan> yes
[03:34] <robotgeek> !root
[03:34] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:35] <robotgeek> mhasan: enabling root breaks gui apps, read that link on how to fix
[03:35] <ubuntu> thank you
[03:35] <ubuntu> brb
[03:35] <fildo> root sudo, thats dirty
[03:35] <mhasan> oh
[03:35] <mhasan> ok
[03:35] <mhasan> didn't know that
[03:35] <mhasan> :(
[03:35] <robotgeek> mhasan: it can be fixed, so not an issue
[03:35] <mhasan> this link???  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[03:36] <robotgeek> mhasan: yes
[03:36] <robotgeek> mhasan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#head-a76e0b38808fca380fa209babb080d60ffe0ec8e
[03:36] <monica> i have the realtek alc850 sound card, and to get xmms to play sound, i have to direct it to "hw:0,2" for it to play ... is there a way to make this device the default?  it's really annoying not having sound in other apps that can't choose the output device
[03:37] <nicola> Hi guys
[03:37] <robotgeek> monica: why not use amarok :)
[03:37] <nicola> I have a problem with gpg and kubuntu.org repo
[03:38] <nicola> any way to fix it ?
[03:38] <robotgeek> nicola: what is the issue?
[03:38] <nicola> let me create a pastebin
[03:38] <RoKFiT> hello on shutdown the computer keeps getting stuck on the press enter screen
[03:38] <monica> robotgeek: will that solve all of my problems with plugins in browsers, etc?
[03:38] <robotgeek> monica: i'm not too good with sound, so i dont know. sorry
[03:39] <RoKFiT> anyone?
[03:39] <nicola> I need the url of the GPG key for kubuntu.org repo but I can't find it
[03:39] <robotgeek> nicola: hmm, maybe ridell's key  wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[03:40] <nicola> I'll try, thanks
[03:40] <monica> can anyone help?  i'm stuck with trying to get spdif out working on my alc850 sound card
[03:40] <RoKFiT> hello, kubuntu is stuck on the remove disk press enter screen, what should i do?
[03:41] <robotgeek> monica: hmm, i was googling to see if that card works on the motherboard i was planning to buy, i did come across some site with instructions
[03:41] <robotgeek> RoKFiT: i guess your only option right now is to "Power off" and post the kernel log
[03:42] <monica> robotgeek: it's integrated with my neo2 platinum mobo
[03:42] <arathald> I'm having trouble getting the ATI drivers (V5200) working in Kubuntu -- I tried everything (the guides, wikis and just about everything I could think of) and it still insists on using the Mesa driver -- can anyone help me please?
[03:42] <robotgeek> monica: yes, the socket 939 motherboard, i guess
[03:43] <RoKFiT> what is the default password for root
[03:43] <caf_> I think it's the password you entered on installation isn't it?
[03:43] <RoKFiT> i didn't enter one
[03:43] <robotgeek> !sudo > RoKFiT
[03:43] <robotgeek> RoKFiT: is this a live cd?
[03:43] <RoKFiT> yes
[03:43] <robotgeek> RoKFiT: ubuntu
[03:43] <Agent_bob> RoKFiT there isnt one
[03:44] <RoKFiT> so it's ubuntu, or there isn't one
[03:44] <robotgeek> damn, they must have changed it
[03:44] <robotgeek> RoKFiT: i am not sure, it was ubuntu before. try the blank one first
[03:44] <Agent_bob> there isn't a root passwd on the live CD per default
[03:44] <RoKFiT> i tried blank, no go
[03:45] <Agent_bob> RoKFiT sudo -i
[03:45] <arathald> RokFiT: there's no root password by default -- the root account is disabled. use sudo (look it up if you don't understand)
[03:45] <naught101> is there any way to edit a pdf on kubuntu? i want to extract an image with text over
[03:45] <monica> can anyone help?  i'm stuck with trying to get spdif out working on my alc850 sound card
[03:45] <RoKFiT> okay
[03:45] <robotgeek> naught101: you can use kpdf to 'cut' the image
[03:46] <winbond> in which repo is the "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17.10-generic"
[03:46] <nicola> thanks robotgeek , it worked
[03:46] <robotgeek> nicola: cool
[03:46] <nicola> you should put it in evidence in the sitw
[03:46] <nicola> ehm site
[03:47] <naught101> kpdf looks really crap though, no anti-aliasing
[03:47] <robotgeek> nicola: where, again?
[03:47] <Agent_bob> !info linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17.10-generic
[03:47] <ubotu> Package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17.10-generic does not exist in any distro I know
[03:48] <ubuntu> anyone know why the dumb installer is telling me "no root file system" when i have it selected in the mountpoint selections AS /
[03:48] <robotgeek> naught101: hmm, i think it is in options. it renders stuff very nicely
[03:48] <nicola> the error was
[03:48] <nicola> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org edgy Release: Le seguenti firme non sono state verificate perch la chiave pubblica non  disponibile: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[03:48] <nicola> so I went to kubuntu.org but I coudn't find any info abot
[03:48] <nicola> (it's italian)
[03:48] <robotgeek> nicola: this was just after fresh install?
[03:48] <nicola> no
[03:48] <t3hwiz0rd> the edgy installer keeps telling me "No root file system" in the installer, even though I've pointed it AT a 30 gb partition on hdd with / as the mount
[03:49] <winbond>  !info linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17.10
[03:49] <ubotu> Package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17.10 does not exist in any distro I know
[03:49] <winbond>  !info linux-restricted-modules
[03:49] <ubotu> Package linux-restricted-modules does not exist in any distro I know
[03:49] <winbond> wtf
[03:49] <caf_> why is wine out of the repositories in kubuntu?
[03:49] <robotgeek> winbond: just install that directly
[03:49] <caf_> also a lot of games are out too.
[03:49] <caf_> like frozen bubble. what's up with dat?
[03:49] <winbond> robotgeek: how do i do that?
[03:50] <RoKFiT> where do i configure autologin?
[03:50] <robotgeek> winbond: linux-restricted-modules-common
[03:50] <robotgeek> RoKFiT: in kde, if you go to settings -> login manager
[03:50] <t3hwiz0rd> robotgeek: helppp lol
[03:51] <Agent_bob> t3hwiz0rd is it a ntfs files system  or is it not set to format it ?
[03:51] <RoKFiT> thanks
[03:51] <t3hwiz0rd> it was a band new filesystem...
[03:51] <t3hwiz0rd> its a brand spankin new harddrive
[03:51] <robotgeek> t3hwiz0rd: dude, you are l33t. you don't need no helpin :)
[03:51] <Agent_bob> so remove the partition and try again
[03:52] <Agent_bob> t3hwiz0rd linux don't live in M$ space without scba gear
[03:52] <t3hwiz0rd> MY 1337NESS SHALL NOT BE MOCKED SIR! 0.o lol
[03:52] <SupremeBeing> anybody know how to use the c-media sound chip with alsa?
[03:52] <t3hwiz0rd> Agent_bob: the drive is brand new there was no ntfs on it.
[03:52] <winbond> robotgeek: that worked , ty
[03:52] <robotgeek> winbond: cool
[03:52] <robotgeek> t3hwiz0rd: is this off a live cd?
[03:52] <t3hwiz0rd> well isn't kubuntu entirely done by live cd?
[03:53] <Agent_bob> t3hwiz0rd no
[03:53] <robotgeek> they still have the alternate install cd
[03:53] <robotgeek> t3hwiz0rd: i think i got something very similiar when i tried to install ubuntu server, but then i fudged around and it worked
[03:54] <Agent_bob> i'm still thinking you need to remove the partition and let the installer "mess it up" for you.   that is what it does...
[03:54] <t3hwiz0rd> okay
[03:54] <t3hwiz0rd> i think i got it now
[03:54] <t3hwiz0rd> okay
[03:54] <t3hwiz0rd> its installing....
[03:54] <robotgeek> t3hwiz0rd: see, i told you you dont need no help :)
[03:55] <t3hwiz0rd> robotgeek: lol... just remmeber the trout, boy. It's always here
[03:55] <t3hwiz0rd> this weekend I am beginning my first ever Gentoo install :-) <333 gentooo
[03:55] <caf_> meh
[03:55] <caf_> I tried a shitload of distros before kubuntu
[03:56] <caf_> I think this one has stayed the longest
[03:56] <caf_> and has the best community
[03:56] <caf_> forums are very helpful
[03:56] <t3hwiz0rd> 0.o lol jk
[03:56] <caf_> NOOO!
[03:56] <caf_> *hides*
[03:56] <gauchePA> anybody have a problem with    in partitions NTSF?
[03:57] <robotgeek> t3hwiz0rd: ahem :)
[03:57] <Agent_bob> NTSF?
[03:58] <tuna> Hello
[03:58] <tuna> Is anybody there?
[03:58] <Agent_bob> no we're all here
[03:58] <tuna> ok.
[03:58] <Agent_bob> well someone may be there too
[03:59] <tuna> I'm the same kid from earlier
[03:59] <tuna> who didn't use postbin :S
[04:00] <tuna> I still have that problem with adept-- http://supertunaman.com/adept_not working
[04:00] <tuna> http://supertunaman.com/adept_not_working
[04:00] <tuna> sorry, use the second one.
[04:00] <tuna> Could you please help me?
[04:01] <robotgeek> t3hwiz0rd: sure, are you good with command line?
[04:01] <tuna> no, but continue :D
[04:01] <robotgeek> tuna: okay, open up konsole
[04:01] <tuna> konsole's open
[04:01] <robotgeek> tuna: sudo dpkg --audit
[04:02] <t3hwiz0rd> robotgeek: i try to live in it as much as possible.
[04:02] <t3hwiz0rd> robotgeek: my entire server is a headless suse machine.
[04:02] <tuna> how do I use postbin?
[04:03] <robotgeek> tuna: paste (http://rafb.net/paste)
[04:03] <caf_> command line is scary to me still
[04:03] <robotgeek> tuna: copy paste stuff, and click submit :)
[04:03] <t3hwiz0rd> caf_: the command line is your friend. A lot of times, it can actually be *less* confusing.
[04:03] <t3hwiz0rd> less stuff to look at and click, less chances of screwing it up
[04:03] <caf_> your'e right actually
[04:04] <caf_> it's easier to type "install blah"
[04:04] <caf_> brings me back to the dos days
[04:04] <caf_> where I had control of my computer ;)
[04:04] <t3hwiz0rd> we don't talk about dos around here
[04:04] <t3hwiz0rd> lol
[04:04] <tuna> ok... now what do I do?
[04:04] <caf_> ouch!
[04:04] <nicola> thanks guy, goodbye
[04:04] <caf_> hey, 640 KB was enough for everyone!
[04:04] <robotgeek> tuna: give me the url :)
[04:04] <t3hwiz0rd> ohhh poop on me
[04:04] <caf_> ;)
[04:04] <tuna> http://rafb.net/paste/results/LwjKem33.html
[04:04] <t3hwiz0rd> I forgot to get my sources.list file off of myo ther install
[04:05] <tuna> does that work?
[04:05] <t3hwiz0rd> *slaps self*
[04:05] <t3hwiz0rd> now I need to fix my sources.list when i get back into kubuntu
[04:05] <robotgeek> tuna: lemme see
[04:05] <robotgeek> tuna: sudo apt-get -f install k3d
[04:06] <soulrider> does anyone know of a program that will put a console in my desktop, kind of like ocnky does with the information it shows
[04:06] <soulrider> like what conky does*
[04:06] <Eeyore-Jr> yes,
[04:06] <robotgeek> conky :)
[04:06] <soulrider> conky can do that ?
[04:06] <robotgeek> sorry, i misunderstood
[04:06] <Eeyore-Jr> kuake ?
[04:07] <tuna> http://rafb.net/paste/results/YKi0ph75.html
[04:07] <soulrider> isnt kuake a drop down console ?
[04:07] <RoKFiT> will beryl or compiz auto update?
[04:07] <robotgeek> tuna: the package for k3d seems to have a bug, you will have to remove the package. lemme give you the command
[04:08] <tuna> k
[04:08] <Agent_bob> tuna  that packages configuration script is broken.
[04:08] <robotgeek> tuna: sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq k3d
[04:09] <Agent_bob> the offending file "/usr/bin/pycentral"  should be recoded.
[04:09] <robotgeek> and a bug should definetly be filed :)
[04:10] <Agent_bob> !bug
[04:10] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:10] <tuna> http://rafb.net/paste/results/qohuXA52.html
[04:11] <robotgeek> tuna: sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq -r k3d
[04:11] <SupremeBeing> How do you install a .RPM file?
[04:11] <robotgeek> !alien
[04:11] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:12] <SupremeBeing> :O
[04:12] <tuna> http://rafb.net/paste/results/rS42BD96.html
[04:12] <SupremeBeing> how do i install ATI drivers then?
[04:12] <caf_> augh, this is why I an advocate of Standards!
[04:13] <robotgeek> oh great. the error is in the removal script
[04:13] <tuna> That sounds bad...
[04:13] <tuna> What do I do?
[04:13] <tuna> Am I screwed?
[04:14] <robotgeek> tuna: nope
[04:14] <caf_> hey guys have you ever noticed your keyboard ever mess up on you?
[04:14] <tuna> No to that sounds bad, what do i do, or am i screwed?
[04:14] <caf_> like, a key will be "stuck"
[04:15] <caf_> and repeat, even though it's not physically stuck?
[04:15] <robotgeek> tuna: no, you are not screwed, let me think
[04:15] <tuna> My mom had that problem, but she uses winblows. geek squad said that it might be the motherboard.
[04:16] <robotgeek> or coffee in keyboards can cause that :)
[04:16] <robotgeek> any kind of fluid, actually
[04:16] <tuna> I spilled gatorade all over my laptop once
[04:16] <tuna> before I began with linux
[04:17] <tuna> its ok, because it was WAY outdated
[04:17] <tuna> So slow...
[04:17] <tuna> but I got a new one.
[04:17] <robotgeek> tuna: hmm, that issue doesn't happen to my k3d installation. but i am on dapper
[04:18] <tuna> yeah, i'm on edgy
[04:19] <winbond> !flash
[04:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:19] <caf_> ok, how do you use SHOCKWA-- wow!
[04:19] <caf_> just as I was typing it, I get help!
[04:19] <caf_> kickass.
[04:20] <tuna> interesting... k3d will open...
[04:20] <tuna> when i type it into the terminal
[04:20] <jshute> anyone know about kcontrol and why systemsettings was used instead?
[04:21] <robotgeek> tuna: okay, sudo vi /var/lib/dpkg/info/k3d.prerm
[04:21] <caf_> heh, this computer wasn't mine
[04:21] <arathald> I'm having trouble installing the ATI firegl drivers -- when i run dmesg it gives me "[17179609.796000]  [fglrx:firegl_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 4327 using kernel context 0
[04:21] <arathald> " (PID 4327 is Xorg) -- can anyone help me out here? I've been working for hours and I can't figure this out.
[04:21] <robotgeek> tuna: delete the "set -e" or -e
[04:21] <caf_> it was a laptop used by a marketing firm
[04:21] <caf_> they used it to death
[04:22] <caf_> I got it from my cousin that does auctions
[04:22] <caf_> I get a lot of cool computer stuff from him :)
[04:22] <matroblend> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279990
[04:22] <caf_> he came across some awesome stuff in his day, like amigas , C64s, ataris and the like
[04:23] <caf_> nice to have a cousin in the auction business.
[04:24] <juliano> porno
[04:24] <tuna> Ok, now what?
[04:24] <juliano> sex
[04:24] <juliano> send links of sex for me
[04:25] <tuna> somebody boot juliano
[04:25] <juliano> ?
[04:25] <tuna> robotgeek: what do I do now?
[04:26] <juliano> lastbel
[04:26] <ubbbuntu> every time i type my pass/user name in the login screen starts going to the main gui then just kicks back to the login
[04:28] <robotgeek> juliano: behave, please
[04:28] <ubbbuntu> whats he been doing?
[04:28] <juliano> speaking portuguese or spanish?
[04:28] <robotgeek> !es
[04:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:28] <tuna> Ok, can you please help me now?
[04:28] <robotgeek> tuna: yes
[04:29] <robotgeek> tuna: do you see either "/bin/sh -e" or "set e"
[04:29] <ubbbuntu> me madre es chupacabra
[04:29] <tuna> the latter, but you told me to delete it
[04:29] <tuna> so i did
[04:29] <juliano> i s.
[04:29] <robotgeek> tuna: okay, now run the removal script again, it should finish
[04:29] <juliano> apesm
[04:29] <tuna> how do I stop vi?
[04:29] <juliano> also evek.llsj
[04:30] <ubbbuntu> anyone have some help with my problem
[04:30] <juliano> ad
[04:30] <juliano> splplapsl
[04:30] <juliano> oaokdpokad
[04:30] <robotgeek> tuna: :wq
[04:30] <ubbbuntu> why does he do that?
[04:31] <juliano> hello
[04:31] <tuna> now it says "recording" at the bottom
[04:31] <juliano> fuck fuck
[04:31] <robotgeek> sorry folks, its been a while.
[04:31] <ubbbuntu> thats imature
[04:31] <tuna> seriously...
[04:31] <robotgeek> tuna: hit q agian, then :wq
[04:32] <tuna> and what was the command again?
[04:32] <tuna> lol
[04:33] <arathald> ? I like vi
[04:33] <robotgeek> tuna: if you hit q again, it will stop recording.
[04:33] <arathald> :P
[04:33] <tuna> i did
[04:33] <Zabulus> ok, who can help me get my wireless to work?
[04:33] <ubbbuntu> whats wrong with it?
[04:33] <tuna> so what now?
[04:33] <robotgeek> tuna: then hit :wq to save and quit
[04:33] <tuna> yeah, i did that
[04:33] <Zabulus> new to linux, have wpn111 (wireless usb adapter)
[04:33] <ubbbuntu> my wrong with it?
[04:33] <arathald> so, does anyone know anything about ATI drivers?
[04:33] <robotgeek> tuna: sudo dpkg -r k3d
[04:33] <Zabulus> but i cant even get ndiswrapper installed...
[04:33] <robotgeek> !ati > arathald
[04:34] <arathald> !ati
[04:34] <ubbbuntu> my wireless antenna is a coffe can
[04:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:34] <robotgeek> Zabulus: i need alteast make and model :)
[04:35] <ubbbuntu> wpn111?
[04:35] <Zabulus> netgear wpn111
[04:35] <robotgeek> okay. thanks
[04:35] <tuna> http://rafb.net/paste/results/4CoUfr39.html
[04:35] <Zabulus> kubuntu 6.06
[04:35] <SupremeBeing> lol I need help with ati drivers also
[04:35] <jshute> Any takers on the information about systemsettings vs. kcontrol?
[04:35] <SupremeBeing> arathald: which card do you have?
[04:36] <ubbbuntu> still no help with my problem :(
[04:36] <robotgeek> Zabulus: it uses madwifi drivers, if you install linux-restricted-modules-common, it should work
[04:36] <Zabulus> and...how do i do that?
[04:37] <robotgeek> Zabulus: install linux-restricted-modules-common using adept
[04:37] <tuna> robotgeek: http://rafb.net/paste/results/4CoUfr39.html
[04:37] <arathald> SupremeBeing: firegl V5200
[04:37] <Zabulus> ok, thank you
[04:37] <robotgeek> tuna: i saw that, can you paste the pre-rm script, maybe i can help. i have a feeling it is different on both our systems
[04:37] <SupremeBeing> arathald: x1300 here... i'm so confused
[04:37] <arathald> robotgeek: yeah, ive been though all of that countless times, thanks for the ref tho
[04:38] <arathald> SupremeBeing: what are you confused about?
[04:38] <robotgeek> arathald: i myself dont use either ati/nvdia, so i dunno
[04:38] <tuna> http://rafb.net/paste/results/onYDmm16.html
[04:40] <arathald> SupremeBeing: it uses the same drivers as the Radeon (it's a rebranded radeon mobility)
[04:40] <SupremeBeing> arathald: so it should work out of the box?
[04:40] <caf_> ok dudes, the latest kubuntu doesn't let you type "sudo apt-get install wine"
[04:40] <tuna> *gasp*
[04:40] <tuna> I want wine!
[04:41] <caf_> it says it ain't there
[04:41] <robotgeek> tuna: http://rafb.net/paste/results/3bRMkJ23.html , use that as your pre-rm script
[04:41] <caf_> and also mozplugger, ain't there either, I find this to be a major problem.
[04:41] <arathald> SupremeBeing: no, (k)ubuntu doesnt have the right drivers by default -- the one i need is called fglrx, but no matter what I do, i cant get it to switch from the Mesa driver
[04:41] <robotgeek> caf_: add wine repository, and then install
[04:41] <caf_> Oh ok
[04:41] <arathald> SupremeBeing: my card works, but theres no 3d
[04:41] <caf_> is there a mozplugger repository too?
[04:42] <tuna> Just delete the current one and paste this in?
[04:42] <robotgeek> tuna: yes
[04:42] <SupremeBeing> arathald: I'm not sure, but I think mine is doing that too :/
[04:42] <tuna> sounds easy
[04:42] <robotgeek> very retarded, but nothing else that i can think of right now
[04:42] <arathald> SupremeBeing: run fglrxinfo -- what does it output
[04:42] <robotgeek> tuna: you should definetly file a bug
[04:43] <SupremeBeing> arathald: command not found
[04:43] <arathald> SupremeBeing: sounds like you didnt even install the drivers
[04:43] <tuna> how do i do that?
[04:43] <tobias> my kubuntu is making me sad :(
[04:43] <robotgeek> !bug
[04:43] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:43] <tobias> it doesnt let me play dvds
[04:44] <tobias> !dvd
[04:44] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:44] <arathald> !ati > SupremeBeing
[04:44] <tobias> it doesnt even read my dvd
[04:44] <SupremeBeing> !ati
[04:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:44] <tobias> like its not even in my dvdtray :(
[04:44] <SupremeBeing> arathald: thanks much.
[04:44] <SupremeBeing> arathald: don't suppose you can solve my sound card problem? :D
[04:45] <arathald> SupremeBeing: what sound card you have?
[04:46] <SupremeBeing> arathald: a C-Media usb something
[04:46] <Zabulus> that didnt work...
[04:46] <arathald> SupremeBeing: usb? sorry, i dont know much about those kinds of usb devices
[04:47] <tuna> Ok, I hate vi
[04:47] <robotgeek> Zabulus: lsusb output, please paste (http://rafb.net/paste)
[04:47] <robotgeek> tuna: use pico
[04:47] <tuna> pico?
[04:47] <SupremeBeing> arathald: it's ok. i'll get it eventually =) thanks
[04:47] <robotgeek> tuna: it is a much easier editor to use
[04:48] <winbond> what can i do to make firefox see he flash plugin?
[04:48] <tobias> I miss bill gates nightmare now :(
[04:49] <tobias> it could read my dvds
[04:50] <angasule> !dvd
[04:50] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:50] <robotgeek> angasule: he says his dvd drive is not reading it at all
[04:50] <angasule> ah
[04:50] <tobias> sometimes it works
[04:50] <tobias> I guess its probably a physical problem
[04:50] <tuna> how do I save?
[04:50] <tobias> I need to clean my dvdplayer
[04:50] <tuna> And yes, it was easier to use
[04:50] <tobias> or something
[04:51] <RoKFiT> how can i install video drivers?
[04:51] <robotgeek> tuna: so, all done. i am waiting so that i can go grab food :)
[04:51] <RoKFiT> or is the nv driver okay?
[04:51] <tuna> robotgeek: how do I save?
[04:51] <angasule> !nvidia
[04:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:52] <robotgeek> tuna: ctrl + x , i believe, look to the bottom of your screen
[04:52] <winbond> why doesnt firefox see my flash plugin?
[04:52] <angasule> RoKFiT: look at that link, nv drivers don't do 3D
[04:52] <SupremeBeing> *sigh* why can't it find my packages? sudo apt-get install linux-686 yields E:couldn't find package?!
[04:52] <T3hWiz0rd> !nvidia
[04:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:52] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: cause those packages dont exist?
[04:53] <NamShub> Hello
[04:53] <tuna> so now what should I do?
[04:53] <robotgeek> tuna: once saved, try removing again
[04:53] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: it was on the Ubuntu forum
[04:53] <tuna> code?
[04:53] <NamShub> I need help setting up dual screen on my laptop
[04:53] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:53] <zzh> hello
[04:53] <NamShub> right now the screen is cloned on an awful resolution on my LCD... i wonder what to do to fix that
[04:53] <robotgeek> tuna: code for what?
[04:53] <sledge> wooo, 2.6.19 + fglrx \o/
[04:54] <tuna> the removing of k3d
[04:54] <tuna> sudo apt-get -f k3d or something?
[04:54] <robotgeek> tuna: sudo apt-get remove k3d
[04:54] <Zabulus> ok, lsusb results
[04:55] <Zabulus> bus 002 device 003:id 1385:5f00
[04:55] <Zabulus> next one is device 001, id 0000blah blah
[04:55] <winbond> sledge: 2.6.19 , that is version of what?
[04:55] <RoKFiT> how do i bold users in konversation?
[04:56] <Zabulus> next is bus 001 device 00: id 045e:00f0 microsoft corp. (probably my mouse)
[04:56] <sledge> winbond: linux
[04:56] <tuna> argh!
[04:56] <tuna> http://rafb.net/paste/results/enaEGt17.html
[04:57] <winbond> sledge:  ohh kernel
[04:57] <sledge> ya
[04:57] <robotgeek> tuna: sorry, just use this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/jwtkks65.html
[04:58] <winbond> sledge: what about it and fglrx?
[04:58] <Zabulus> i think ill do this later, when i can use my roommates laptop...
[04:58] <sledge> winbond: doesn't work right out of the box, but it works.
[04:58] <caf_> !shockwave
[04:58] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[04:58] <robotgeek> Zabulus: i could not find such a device listing, possibly it is not a madwifi chip
[04:58] <Zabulus> im not sure
[04:59] <robotgeek> Zabulus: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Netgear bookmark this :)
[04:59] <winbond> sledge:which video card?
[04:59] <Zabulus> i have the drivers downloaded, i have ndiswrapper downloaded, just cant get it installed
[04:59] <T3hWiz0rd> nvidia drivers keep giving me this error: Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[04:59] <T3hWiz0rd> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[04:59] <T3hWiz0rd> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[04:59] <T3hWiz0rd> my bad
[05:00] <T3hWiz0rd> and it is installed
[05:00] <sledge> winbond: mobility radeon 9600
[05:00] <robotgeek> T3hWiz0rd: please use pastebin
[05:00] <T3hWiz0rd> uhg
[05:00] <T3hWiz0rd> this is making me mad
[05:00] <winbond> sledge: alright , i have x1950 which fglx doesnt work with , but i dont know which kernel i have installed
[05:01] <Zabulus> i assume the wpn111 will work, the wpn311 is the pci counterpart
[05:01] <T3hWiz0rd> robotgeek: the hardware autodetect worked on 6.06... its all fricked up on 6.10
[05:01] <T3hWiz0rd> its not detecting my monitor anymore... nor is it detecting the drivers are installed, nor is it detecting my monitor
[05:01] <robotgeek> T3hWiz0rd: heh
[05:01] <T3hWiz0rd> i mean my video card*
[05:01] <robotgeek> Zabulus: err, i tht you said 311
[05:01] <Zabulus> i have a wpn111
[05:02] <Zabulus> the wpn311 is the pci version of it
[05:02] <Zabulus> wpn111 is usb
[05:02] <T3hWiz0rd> how sad.
[05:03] <winbond> sledge:are you using x64 or x86
[05:03] <robotgeek> Zabulus: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List says it should work
[05:03] <Zabulus> how do i get ndiswrapper to install?
[05:03] <tuna> robotgeek: don't think it worked...
[05:03] <winbond> any experts on flash in here?
[05:04] <robotgeek> tuna: ughh, did it crash and burn again?
[05:04] <tuna> http://rafb.net/paste/results/42gwnJ36.html
[05:04] <tuna> that happened
[05:04] <Zabulus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=104539
[05:05] <robotgeek> tuna: done, it atleast removed the package, so now you should be free to install other stuff
[05:05] <tuna> and I have about 11 minutes until I have to go
[05:05] <Zabulus> thats the last thing i tried using to install ndiswrapper
[05:05] <tuna> ok
[05:05] <tuna> i'll try
[05:05] <caf_> I'm stuck.
[05:05] <Zabulus> at the first command i got "Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386"
[05:05] <caf_> I want to get mozplugger or whatever it's called
[05:05] <robotgeek> Zabulus, sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:06] <caf_> I'm told to go to source-o-matic
[05:06] <caf_> which isn't updated for edgy
[05:06] <robotgeek> caf_: why do you need mozplugger, again?
[05:06] <caf_> so I can use shockwave
[05:07] <robotgeek> caf_: not sure, sorry
[05:07] <jhutchins> http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc
[05:08] <Zabulus> robotgeek: do i need an active internet connection to use the "apt-get install..." commands?
[05:08] <robotgeek> Zabulus: yes
[05:08] <ubbbuntu> every time i type my user/pass kubuntu starts to log in then kicks me back to the login screen,this is the second time it happed before i had to reinstall any help?
[05:08] <Zabulus> thats why it never works...
[05:08] <ubbbuntu> whats the diffrence in bwetween a kubuntu cd iso and a dvd iso?
[05:08] <Zabulus> is there a way to get around the need for the internet connection?
[05:08] <robotgeek> ubbbuntu: look for .xsession-errors in ~/
[05:09] <manli> hi
[05:09] <robotgeek> Zabulus: you can download the package from packages.ubuntu.com
[05:09] <Zabulus> ok robot, ill try that, thank you for your help
[05:09] <ubbbuntu> ill go look.
[05:10] <T3hWiz0rd> !mp3
[05:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:10] <tuna> robotgeek: i think it may work
[05:10] <tuna> YES!
[05:10] <Zabulus> would you happen to know all the packages ill need to get my wireless working?
[05:10] <robotgeek> tuna: cool. just dont install k3d yet :)
[05:10] <tuna> ok, robotgeek, you rock
[05:10] <robotgeek> Zabulus: sadly, no.
[05:11] <tuna> ok
[05:11] <Zabulus> darn, thanks anyway, bye
[05:11] <tuna> robotgeek, you're a h4x0r!
[05:11] <tuna> lol
[05:11] <robotgeek> lol tuna
[05:12] <tuna> Ok, thanks a lot, man
[05:12] <robotgeek> tuna: most likely you are left with a lot of crap in /usr/share/k3d or so
[05:12] <tuna> lol ok
[05:12] <tuna> but i don't care
[05:12] <T3hWiz0rd> robotgeek: alright, i fixed it :-)
[05:12] <T3hWiz0rd> cos i am turbogenius
[05:12] <tuna> i have a 40 gig hard drive
[05:12] <T3hWiz0rd> SHAAZING
[05:12] <tuna> lotta crap won't do much, will it?
[05:13] <winbond> does anyone know the name of the modded version of firefox that can use 32bit plugins under x64 os?/
[05:13] <pops> nope...sorry///
[05:14] <tuna> well thanks, see ya later!
[05:15] <QUEEN> all I need help on fixing something on my computer or i will hurt myself I am begging ppl to be serious and help me not make fuhn like on the ubuntu forum by asking the same question over and over or be rude like ppl were in the ubuntu chat
[05:16] <QUEEN> hello?
[05:16] <pops> relax queeny..whats up?
[05:17] <ubbbuntu> um im running a ubuntu live cd how do i view/mount my normal hard drive?
[05:18] <ubunturos> where does wget automatically store downloaded files?
[05:19] <gtwy> ubunturos: wherever you run the command from
[05:19] <gtwy> to find out where you are type pwd
[05:19] <QUEEN> hello?
[05:19] <ubunturos> gtwy: ok
[05:19] <ubunturos> gtwy: thanks.
[05:20] <ubbbuntu> hate the live cd, slow as hell
[05:20] <QUEEN> im begging ppl on here to help me
[05:20] <pops> What's up Queen...
[05:20] <gtwy> QUEEN: what is your problem
[05:20] <ubbbuntu> ou never stated your problem
[05:20] <QUEEN> because if i dont get this issue fixed i fully intend on hanging myself
[05:20] <manli> yes:queen?
[05:20] <ubbbuntu> /home/ubuntu
[05:20] <QUEEN> i am having an issue as I stated on thre ubuntu chat my cd burner will not read any lank cd i put in it
[05:21] <ubbbuntu> gtwy /home/ubuntu
[05:21] <ubbbuntu> are u running kubuntu or ubuntu?
[05:21] <QUEEN> ubuntu
[05:21] <gtwy> ubbbuntu: open konqueror and enter that into the bar at the top
[05:21] <gtwy> and your file should be in there
[05:21] <ubbbuntu> um im on a livfe ubuntu cd
[05:22] <gtwy> oh well you're in #kubuntu
[05:22] <gtwy> i think the gnome equivalent is gnautilus
[05:22] <gtwy> although i probably spelled that wrong
[05:22] <QUEEN> i have tried that
[05:22] <ubbbuntu> yes my problem is with kubuntu but i dont have a live cd for kubuntu so i had to use ubuntu
[05:22] <ubbbuntu> brb
[05:22] <QUEEN> mno one is listening im just gonna save veryone the trouble and go ahead and hang myself
[05:22] <gtwy> ubbbuntu: what file did you download with wget
[05:23] <QUEEN> oh and tell the ppl in the ubuntu chat they r part of the reason I have decided to do this they were beyond cruel to me
[05:23] <robotgeek> QUEEN: i think you should get some professinal help
[05:23] <ubbbuntu> huh? i dindint use wget?
[05:23] <QUEEN> i think one of u should help me fix this issue
[05:23] <ubbbuntu> try the forms
[05:23] <robotgeek> QUEEN: if we could, we would
[05:23] <ubbbuntu> forums*
[05:23] <QUEEN> I have ppl ask me the same god damn question over and over as a way to make fun
[05:24] <NamShub> is it possible to use alt+keypad to enter ascii code?
[05:24] <gtwy> ubbbuntu: im getting you confused with ubunturos
[05:24] <NamShub> I have a few dead keys on my laptop and this is annoying as h*ll
[05:24] <ubbbuntu> oh
[05:24] <QUEEN> please sumone help me so I can burn some stuff on CD
[05:24] <gtwy> ubbbuntu: oh, thats easy
[05:24] <gtwy> ubbbuntu: man mount
[05:24] <gtwy> your normal hard drive is probably /dev/hda
[05:25] <gtwy> wait, is it sata or ide?
[05:25] <NamShub> QUEEN: try k3b
[05:25] <NamShub> QUEEN: should be straightforward
[05:25] <ubbbuntu> hda1
[05:25] <QUEEN> i have
[05:25] <pops> right nam
[05:25] <ubbbuntu> ide i think,its a newer laptop
[05:25] <tripper> sos: my kubuntu 6.06 system hangs/freezes whenever i insert a USB flash disk. why does it happen? any fix available?
[05:25] <NamShub> QUEEN: then whats the problem?
[05:26] <gtwy> did you manually set up your drive
[05:26] <QUEEN> either i fi8nd a qway to be able to get my cd burner to see im inserting a blank disk or im gonna han myslef and ppl r asking the same hgod damn thing over and over i think u all r just making fun of me now
[05:26] <gtwy> or did you let it automatically do it
[05:26] <gtwy> here, try this first
[05:26] <gtwy> mount /dev/hda2
[05:26] <gtwy> hda0 and hda1 are usually your swap space and your boot partition
[05:26] <gtwy> so hda2 is most likely your data
[05:26] <pops> laters....all...good luck Queeny....
[05:27] <cpk1> QUEEN: what happens when you put a cd in?
[05:27] <Zabulus> bad news, couldnt install the package
[05:27] <QUEEN> nothing i have said that 10000000000 times it does not see that i am inserting a cd
[05:27] <gtwy> QUEEN: what kind of burner is it and have you used the burner before
[05:27] <robotgeek> gtwy: never mind, troll
[05:28] <Zabulus> wow, make robotgeek mad...
[05:28] <Zabulus> i dont think thats a good idea
[05:28] <cpk1> was he really a troll?
[05:28] <gtwy> ubbbuntu: i forgot something
[05:28] <caf_> sounds like what we called a "n00b"
[05:28] <gtwy> ubbbuntu: make a directory, it doesnt matter where, but let's pretend you make it at /old
[05:28] <gtwy> the command would be
[05:28] <gtwy> mount /dev/hda2 /old
[05:29] <gtwy> and then when you are done type umount /dev/hda2
[05:29] <Zabulus> robotgeek: i tried to install the package, but it failed saying something about dependencies or something
[05:29] <robotgeek> Zabulus: yes, which is why it is tough to do it without apt
[05:29] <Zabulus> gahh
[05:29] <Zabulus> dangit
[05:30] <Zabulus> meh, forget, im gonna abandon linux
[05:30] <gtwy> Zabulus: why not just use apt-get ?
[05:30] <Zabulus> but only until i can get my computer hardwired
[05:30] <robotgeek> Zabulus: get to a cable, maybe i can help you :
[05:30] <caf_> wait
[05:30] <tripper> sos: my kubuntu 6.06 system hangs/freezes whenever i insert a USB flash disk. why does it happen? any fix available?
[05:30] <caf_> try sudo apt-get build-dep *insert prog here*
[05:31] <Zabulus> unfortunately, my router is on the side of the house
[05:31] <robotgeek> caf_: he does not have internet, he is trying to get online :)
[05:31] <caf_> Ohhh!
[05:31] <gtwy> ohhh
[05:31] <gtwy> Zabulus: wireless not working but NIC is?
[05:31] <Zabulus> and im upstairs, router is downstairs, which doesnt help...
[05:31] <Zabulus> its a usb connector
[05:32] <ubunturos> ok, I have unpacked the tar of Firefox 2.0 in /opt/firefox directory
[05:32] <Zabulus> which im using right now, trying a dual boot system
[05:32] <ubunturos> but I am not able to execute run-mozilla.sh
[05:32] <ubbbuntu>  it asks me the filesystem type
[05:32] <ubunturos> "cannot execute" is the error!
[05:32] <gtwy> ubunturos: why
[05:32] <ubunturos> the execute bit is set
[05:32] <gtwy> ubunturos: use apt-get!
[05:32] <ubunturos> ah, I am using dapper
[05:33] <gtwy> ubunturos: try different /dev/hda variations
[05:33] <ubunturos> gtwy: and there's no repository for that, I guess
[05:33] <gtwy> until you get one that just works
[05:33] <Zabulus> which is why i keep leaving and coming back...switching between winblows..windows and linux everytime to try another suggestion
[05:33] <gtwy> ubunturos: on there is a repository for firefox trust me.
[05:33] <Zabulus> gets rather annoying
[05:33] <gtwy> oh there *
[05:33] <gtwy> Zabulus: is the wifi card not installed?
[05:33] <gtwy> or you just cant get online with it
[05:33] <ubunturos> gtwy: ah, this download is a waste then?
[05:33] <caf_> anyone know how to get ubuntu to recognise a floppy?
[05:33] <gtwy> ubunturos: correct
[05:33] <Zabulus> its not installed
[05:33] <ubunturos> gtwy: eeks!
[05:34] <gtwy> ubunturos: apt-get install firefox
[05:34] <ubbbuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ pwd
[05:34] <ubbbuntu> /home/ubuntu
[05:34] <ubbbuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ man mount
[05:34] <ubbbuntu> Reformatting mount(8), please wait...
[05:34] <ubbbuntu> uiubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount /dev/hda2/ /
[05:34] <ubbbuntu> mount: only root can do that
[05:34] <ubbbuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo su
[05:34] <gtwy> i think
[05:34] <ubbbuntu> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# mount /dev/hda2/ /
[05:34] <Zabulus> so i have no net connection on linux
[05:34] <ubbbuntu> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[05:34] <ubbbuntu> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# mount /dev/hda2/ /
[05:34] <gtwy> heh... last time i installed something form command line it was using emerge :)
[05:34] <gtwy> no
[05:34] <gtwy> you cant mount it to the root dir
[05:34] <gtwy> you have to make an empty folder
[05:34] <gtwy> called whatever
[05:34] <tripper> ubbuntu: know any reason why my system (on kubuntu 6.06)hangs when inserted with a usb flash disk?
[05:34] <gtwy> and then mont it to /whatever/
[05:35] <Zabulus> anyone know off the top of their heads why its not recognizing one partition of my hd?
[05:35] <gtwy> Zabulus: what format is the partition
[05:35] <Zabulus> ntfs
[05:36] <gtwy> lol thats why
[05:36] <Zabulus> then why can i access my windows partition?
[05:36] <gtwy> is your windows partition FAT32?
[05:36] <Zabulus> no
[05:36] <Zabulus> ntfs still
[05:36] <gtwy> did you try mounting the other ntfs drive
[05:37] <Zabulus> thats what i was thinking, but how do i do that?
[05:37] <gtwy> look in your fstab file
[05:37] <gtwy> for the options they used
[05:37] <gtwy> and then use them to mount the other ntfs drive
[05:37] <gtwy> no, i do not know which drive it is, so you will have to just guess through your /dev/hd_#
[05:38] <Zabulus> so i can pretty much just copy the options from my one partition to the other?
[05:38] <gtwy> yeah
[05:38] <ubunturos> I'll ask for help in firefox channel
[05:38] <gtwy> as long as you know the drive and partition
[05:38] <gtwy> ubunturos: whats wrong
[05:38] <Zabulus> awesome, cause i found that file, just didnt know what to put
[05:38] <ubunturos> gtwy: ackage firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package
[05:38] <gtwy> do you know what your other ntfs partition is called Zabulus
[05:38] <ubunturos> Package*
[05:38] <Zabulus> well, i have 1 hdd, and all the partitions are different size
[05:39] <Zabulus> not off the top of my head
[05:39] <gtwy> ubunturos: are you on kubuntu or ubuntu
[05:39] <Zabulus> how can i check in windows?
[05:39] <ubunturos> gtwy: kubuntu
[05:39] <LNXempire> I am considering migrating from shitty Ubuntu to Kubuntu, so fart piece of shit Ubuntu only has given me unnecessary headaches. That shit can't transfer music from Rythmbox to an mp3 player? I have to use k3b to clone CD DVD's. I think Amarok will be a better candidate for media playing
[05:39] <ubunturos> gtwy: any issues?
[05:39] <gtwy> Zabulus: one second
[05:39] <gtwy> ubunturos: click on the K in the lower left to bring the menu up
[05:39] <gtwy> go to system
[05:39] <ubunturos> adpet?
[05:40] <gtwy> yes
[05:40] <ubunturos> and then?
[05:40] <gtwy> in the upper left click adept
[05:40] <gtwy> click update
[05:40] <gtwy> fetch updates even
[05:41] <LNXempire> guys is there a clean way to migrate to piece of shit Ubuntu to Kubuntu? I wanna do right this minute
[05:41] <ubunturos> gtwy: fetched updates, no new updtes
[05:41] <gtwy> after that runs through type firefox into the filter
[05:41] <DBO> LNXempire, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:41] <gtwy> Zabulus: okay
[05:41] <gtwy> my best advice
[05:41] <gtwy> which isnt the best idea probably but its what i do because i am not sure of a better way
[05:41] <ubunturos> there's a support / library file for language support
[05:41] <ubunturos> that's it
[05:41] <gtwy> is to just mount every partition on the computer that is not listed in the fstab file
[05:42] <gtwy> until i find the right one
[05:42] <DBO> LNXempire, however inflammatory remarks are generally not needed
[05:42] <LNXempire> DBO: but i wanna get rid of craubuntu, how do i get rid completely of Ubuntu?
[05:42] <Zabulus> alright, im sure i can figure out which one it is easily
[05:42] <LNXempire> sorry
[05:42] <gtwy> !repositories | ubunturos
[05:42] <ubotu> ubunturos: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:42] <paul__> is there a way to go to kbuntu from ubuntu....besides making a disc
[05:42] <LNXempire> I apologize
[05:42] <LNXempire> is just that I am frustrated
[05:42] <cpk1> LNXempire: kubuntu is ubuntu, only difference is gnome and kde
[05:42] <Zabulus> all the partitions are different sizes, and the one i need to mount is 200 gigs, versus less than 20 for the rest
[05:43] <Zabulus> so theres a significant difference
[05:43] <LNXempire> simple things become 5 weeks to solve or remain unsolvble
[05:43] <DBO> LNXempire, just sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop
[05:43] <DBO> LNXempire, that will get rid of the metapackage and some of its depends
[05:43] <LNXempire> DBO: do I need to reboot afterwards
[05:43] <DBO> no
[05:43] <DBO> just log out
[05:43] <gtwy> there is one think ubuntu / kubuntu NEEDS to do
[05:43] <LNXempire> excelent then let's do it
[05:43] <tubaxx> hy
[05:43] <ubunturos> gtwy: ok
[05:43] <DBO> then log into KDE
[05:43] <gtwy> and that is upgrade smbclient
[05:43] <gtwy> there has been a new one released
[05:43] <gtwy> that works with vista
[05:44] <gtwy> yet ubuntu/kubuntu are still using the BROKEN one
[05:44] <tubaxx> i cant launch adept manager even if i put the pass admin...
[05:44] <DBO> gtwy, not really a big deal since Vista isnt in market yet
[05:44] <cpk1> smb = samba?
[05:44] <gtwy> yes
[05:44] <gtwy> samba == server
[05:44] <gtwy> smbclient == client
[05:44] <Zabulus> tubaxx: did you try using the password you normally log in with?
[05:44] <gtwy> DBO: actually it was released to enterprise yesterday
[05:44] <LNXempire> wiat first i wanna try amarok alone and see how it handles mp3 player
[05:45] <cpk1> well i never had a problem with xp so i would say the problem originates with windows then =P
[05:45] <LNXempire> sudo apt-install amarok??
[05:45] <gtwy> cpk1: fingers were pointed at both sides between MS and samba
[05:45] <tubaxx> yes only one user
[05:45] <gtwy> cpk1: but samba fixed it
[05:45] <tubaxx> one pass
[05:45] <gtwy> tubaxx: open the terminal and type sudo bash
[05:45] <gtwy> try the password there
[05:45] <DBO> gtwy, yeah but that doesnt effect the home market, and there is no server version yet either so it doesnt effect enterprise ;-)
[05:45] <Zabulus> i dont know then, thats all i ususally have to do =P
[05:45] <re-align> I've recently switched to Kubuntu from Ubuntu and need to run a shell script on login (unless someone haas a better solution than the workaround I'm using).
[05:46] <gtwy> DBO: how does it matter? i ahve vista RTM, as well as a lot of other people i know
[05:46] <gtwy> and there is a WORKING FIX
[05:46] <LNXempire> is this correct sudo apt-get amarok ???
[05:46] <gtwy> it's been out for a month
[05:46] <Zabulus> this is great, this is the most helpful irc channel i have ever seen
[05:46] <tubaxx> hes asks the pass, i give him and nothing
[05:46] <gtwy> the fact that it takes over a month for kubuntu reposities to add an upated package is a little ridiculous
[05:47] <caf_> wtf leileilol here
[05:47] <caf_> oh lawd
[05:47] <tubaxx> oups sorry
[05:47] <LNXempire> is this correct sudo apt-get amarok ???
[05:47] <DBO> gtwy, it has to do with the way repos are managed
[05:47] <tubaxx> root@kubuntu
[05:47] <DBO> gtwy, the repos are in feature freeze right now
[05:47] <LNXempire> is not correct
[05:47] <gtwy> LNXempire: apt-get install amarok i think
[05:47] <DBO> LNXempire, amarok is included with kubuntu-desktop
[05:47] <LNXempire> aha yhea
[05:48] <DBO> you dont need to do that seperately
[05:48] <LNXempire> ok
[05:48] <RoKFiT> when i log-in, my desktop goes from blue to black, can i make it just black?
[05:48] <LNXempire> ok thanks
[05:48] <gtwy> ubunturos: hows it going
[05:48] <gtwy> figure it out?
[05:48] <tripper> how to upgrade from kubuntu 6.06 to 6.10?
[05:48] <Zabulus> tripper: dont
[05:49] <tripper> Zabulus: why?
[05:49] <caf_> heh!
[05:49] <Zabulus> buggy
[05:49] <RoKFiT> does anyone know?
[05:49] <tripper> Zabulus: but i cant use my flash disks and other usb devices
[05:49] <Zabulus> meh, havent tested those in 6.10, sorry
[05:50] <Zabulus> try this
[05:50] <Zabulus> http://dailycupoftech.com/upgrade-ubuntu-606-to-610/
[05:50] <RoKFiT> what is the updater program called
[05:51] <gtwy> oh, something i have been wondering for a while
[05:51] <gtwy> how do i change my MAC address
[05:51] <gtwy> RoKFiT: Adept Manager?
[05:51] <Zabulus> hmmm, i wonder what would happen if i released my ip right now...
[05:52] <caf_> you can do that?
[05:52] <gtwy> Zabulus: ?
[05:52] <Zabulus> lol, just bored
[05:52] <gtwy> Zabulus: then help me figure out how to change the MAC address on my NIC
[05:52] <gtwy> :)
[05:52] <Zabulus> trying
[05:53] <Zabulus> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address#ifconfig
[05:53] <Zabulus> see if that helps
[05:53] <gtwy> you can do it with ifconfig... no way! that's even easier than i thought
[05:55] <Zabulus> soo it looks like you have to put hwaddress ether 02:01:02:03:04:08 in the appropriate section of /etc/network/interfaces so that the MAC address is set when the network device is started
[05:55] <gtwy> yeah
[05:55] <caf_> and Cisco still tells its students you can't change MAC addresses for legal reasons.
[05:55] <Zabulus> ...
[05:55] <Zabulus> who cares about legal reasons?
[05:55] <Zabulus> =P
[05:55] <caf_> yep, they do.
[05:56] <caf_> exactly.
[05:56] <gtwy> its not against the law to change your MAC address
[05:56] <Zabulus> if it was they would require companies to disable any commands to change it
[05:58] <Zabulus> anyone know the difference between cedega and cedega cvs?
[05:59] <Jucato> cedega is not free, cedega cvs is free, but not supported by cedega
[05:59] <Zabulus> thats the only difference? the support?
[05:59] <Zabulus> hehe, i wonder which one i will go with
[05:59] <caf_> ya srsly
[06:00] <Jucato> not really. it's not the only difference
[06:00] <Zabulus> do they both support the same games?
[06:00] <Jucato> you have to compile cvs, for one. and you also get a lot of features in cedega. I'm just not sure about the details
[06:01] <Jucato> that's the thing, cedega cvs *might* not support the same games... (afaik)
[06:01] <Zabulus> i can deal with compiling it, as long as i can figure out how
[06:01] <Zabulus> well, i guess ill have to see
[06:01] <Jucato> yep. best way to find out is to Google it up :)
[06:01] <caf_> google is your friend
[06:02] <Zabulus> google is my best friend
[06:02] <Jucato> Google is my brother :P
[06:02] <Zabulus> when gmail was still invitation i had about 20 different gmail accounts
[06:02] <Zabulus> made for a lot of invites
[06:02] <Jucato> Gmail is still by invitation :)
[06:03] <Zabulus> ...
[06:03] <Zabulus> wow, i thought it was done with that
[06:03] <Jucato> nope. it's still "Beta" hehehe
[06:03] <caf_> I think it'll always be beta ;)
[06:04] <Jucato> maybe... but who knows :)
[06:04] <Zabulus> lol, well, first account i checked has 48 invites...
[06:04] <Zabulus> soo, figure i might have around 500 invites
[06:04] <Jucato> nah. not that much
[06:05] <Zabulus> well, with about 20 accounts
[06:05] <Jucato> O.o
[06:05] <Zabulus> yeah, i went nuts, dont ask
[06:05] <Jucato> :P
[06:06] <Zabulus> hmm, need a new game...whats a good game thats free?
[06:06] <caf_> hmm
[06:09] <Zabulus> so far i have mu, ro, steam w/ hl cs sven cz etc, doom 3, fear, sims2, sims complete, c&c decade
[06:09] <Jucato> RO and MU, if they use GameGuard, probably won't run. at least it doesn't in Wine
[06:09] <Zabulus> meh, i play private servers
[06:10] <Jucato> :P
[06:10] <LNXempire> hey what kinda port do I need to use with Amarok is reporting that 59273 or something like that isn't workig
[06:12] <Zabulus_> at some point i will have to figure out why i keep getting bsod
[06:12] <Zabulus_> and...why is it showing me connected twice???
[06:13] <Jucato> it's your ghost
[06:13] <Zabulus_> apparently
[06:13] <Zabulus_> damn bum has my name
[06:13] <LNXempire> is aMule a different network than Frostwire?
[06:13] <Zabulus_> should the ghost be the one with the tweaked name?
[06:14] <caf_> DIE
[06:14] <gtwy> Zabulus_: what irc client are you on
[06:14] <Jucato> Zabulus_: is your nick registered?
[06:14] <Zabulus_> icechat, pos i just downloaded
[06:14] <Zabulus_> and no, its not registered
[06:15] <Zabulus_> havent been on irc for a long time, had to get a new client
[06:15] <Jucato> ah. then you'll just have to wait for the ghost to disappear
[06:15] <Zabulus_> and this junk was the first i found...
[06:15] <Jucato> on Windows, I presume?
[06:15] <Zabulus_> unfortunately
[06:15] <gtwy> Zabulus_: check out irssi
[06:16] <Zabulus_> free?
[06:16] <gtwy> yes
[06:16] <gtwy> linux based
[06:16] <Zabulus_> ...
[06:16] <Zabulus_> i need one for windows...
[06:16] <gtwy> oh
[06:16] <gtwy> thats easy
[06:16] <Zabulus_> no internet on linux still
[06:16] <gtwy> you have a remote linux machine online though right?
[06:16] <Zabulus_> no, dual boot system
[06:16] <gtwy> ouch
[06:16] <Zabulus_> yep
[06:17] <gtwy> IRCing from home network
[06:17] <Zabulus_> im the only one in the house with linux
[06:18] <gtwy> Zabulus_: do you have a job
[06:18] <Zabulus_> out of 5 computers
[06:18] <Zabulus_> yep
[06:18] <gtwy> you should consider geting a dedicated server
[06:18] <gtwy> it is $30/mo
[06:18] <Zabulus_> too much, lol
[06:18] <gtwy> its on a fat pipe
[06:18] <gtwy> i get 2mbytes/sec down 1mbyte/sec up
[06:18] <Zabulus_> if you say oc 100+ im in
[06:19] <gtwy> Zabulus_: i think it is more a restriction of the hard drive
[06:19] <Zabulus_> lol, its a joke
[06:19] <gtwy> i did say bytes not bits
[06:19] <RoKFiT> what is the add/remove software application called
[06:20] <gtwy> RoKFiT: adept manager
[06:20] <Zabulus_> can i have oc-3072?
[06:20] <RoKFiT> and what is the updater?
[06:20] <gtwy> go into the adept manager and click "fetch updates"
[06:21] <Zabulus_> if anyone will get my oc-3072 for a year i will give them my....ummm...something
[06:21] <Zabulus_> me*
[06:21] <gtwy> how about enough money to pay for the connection as well as one for me
[06:21] <gtwy> if that is the case i will get you one
[06:21] <RoKFiT> where is adept located?
[06:21] <Jucato> no
[06:22] <Zabulus_> too expensive...lol
[06:22] <RoKFiT> what is the command to start adept
[06:22] <Jucato> Updater = adept_updater
[06:22] <Zabulus_> but imagine 160 Gbit/s
[06:22] <Jucato> Add/Remove = adept_installer
[06:22] <gtwy> Jucato: does it really matter you can do updates from the installer
[06:22] <Jucato> Adept Manager (big guy) = adept (Dapper) or adept_manager
[06:22] <RoKFiT> thank you Jucato
[06:22] <Jucato> gtwy: I'm just enumerating them
[06:22] <gtwy> er, from the manager
[06:23] <RoKFiT> now how do i login to root?
[06:23] <Zabulus_> someone kick Zabulus!!!
[06:23] <Jucato> Adept Manager can do everything the others can. it is also the only one where you can Manage Repositories
[06:23] <Zabulus_> not Zabulus_, Zabulus
[06:23] <gtwy> Zabulus_: its moer than that, he will need killed
[06:23] <gtwy> Zabulus_: wait for him to ping timeout
[06:23] <Jucato> RoKFiT: when you launch Adept from the menu, you will be prompted for the password
[06:23] <Zabulus_> maybe if i dc and come back, lets try
[06:23] <gtwy> Zabulus_: nope
[06:24] <gtwy> oh well
[06:24] <RoKFiT> adept updater is not add/remove software?
[06:24] <Jucato> no
[06:24] <RoKFiT> what is add remove software?
[06:24] <gtwy> the "add/remove" software button is lame
[06:24] <Jucato> Add/Remove Programs = adept_installer
[06:24] <Jucato> RoKFiT: but that is a very simplified version of Adept Manager
[06:25] <RoKFiT> and adept_manager?
[06:26] <RoKFiT> is that one?
[06:26] <Jucato> RoKFiT: is the full version. the one without the fancy icons/interface
[06:26] <Jucato> adept_installer is the "Add/Remove Programs" that you see in the K Menu
[06:26] <Jucato> Adept Manager is under K Menu -> System
[06:26] <RoKFiT> adept manager complains of root priveledges
[06:26] <NamShub> Ok I managed to get my dual screen setup working
[06:27] <Jucato> RoKFiT: how and from where are you launching it?
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. writing a little 'report' in abiword.. and wondering.. What the heck does these green wiggly lines mean under parts of my report. :)
[06:27] <gtwy> RoKFiT: when prompted for your password put in your login password
[06:27] <RoKFiT> i'm not prompted
[06:27] <gtwy> RoKFiT: if attempting to run it from the terminal type sudo before it, example
[06:27] <RoKFiT> i need the root login
[06:27] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: Abiword doesn't have ODF support, btw
[06:27] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: those are in Word Too
[06:27] <NamShub> however on my screen 2, which is left, the virtual size is higher than my display area (1280x1024, my LCD size) and the cursur show up as a 64x64 square
[06:27] <Jucato> RoKFiT: where are you launching it from?
[06:27] <gtwy> sudo adept_installer
[06:27] <Jucato> gtwy: no. use kdesu for graphical apps
[06:27] <Jucato> !kdesu
[06:27] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> Jucato,  considering i do like 4 letters a year.. not an issue. :)
[06:28] <intelikey> odd   wonder why  "libauthen-captcha-perl"  and  "goldedplus"  come up if you search for adept in apt ?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> just trying to figure out what those green wavews are telling me
[06:28] <RoKFiT> how do i disable bouncy icon?
[06:28] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: spelling check probably?
[06:28] <gtwy> Jucato: oh
[06:28] <gtwy> Jucato: im new to linux gui
[06:28] <Jucato> RoKFiT: hm... one problem at a time... which one do you want to tackle first?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> Jucato,  those are red. :)
[06:28] <RoKFiT> root password
[06:28] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: grammar?
[06:28] <intelikey> RoKFiT kcontrol
[06:28] <RoKFiT> logging into root
[06:29] <intelikey> RoKFiT it's all in kcontrol
[06:29] <Jucato> RoKFiT: ok answer this. how are you trying to launch Adept Manager
[06:29] <RoKFiT> a shortcut i made in menu
[06:29] <RoKFiT> kmenu
[06:29] <RoKFiT> command adept_installer
[06:29] <RoKFiT> and command sudo adept_installer
[06:29] <Zabulus> finally made it back in
[06:29] <Jucato> RoKFiT: did you delete the other one? there's already one in the K Menu by default
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Jucato,  heh.. thats my next guess.. but ya think there would be a little more info on it.. heh.. abiword's spell checking interface needs work big time also. :() Oh well.. not a big deal
[06:30] <Zabulus> YAY, bastard is gone
[06:30] <BluDog_Anchorite> is there a repairMBR option available from the dapper cd  ?
[06:30] <intelikey> not sudo when it's a gui thingy   use kdesu whatever
[06:30] <RoKFiT> Jucato: yes
[06:30] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: interface? it's GNOME. should you wonder? :)
[06:30] <Jucato> RoKFiT: use "kdesu" instead of sudo
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Jucato,  using it under windows at the moment. :)
[06:31] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: eww.... heheh. Don't like OO.o?
[06:31] <RoKFiT> Jucato: and now for root login?
[06:31] <RoKFiT> wait wait
[06:31] <RoKFiT> no first i have another question
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Jucato,  dident want to download a 200+mb office suite to write a 3 page letter....
[06:31] <RoKFiT> when i login my screen goes from blue to black
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> over wireless..
[06:31] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: it's during those kinds of circumstances that I wish KOffice was available in Windows :)
[06:31] <RoKFiT> why?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:32] <RoKFiT> i just want it black
[06:32] <intelikey> unix_infidel don't look like it.
[06:32] <Jucato> unix_infidel: they probably don't need it
[06:32] <unix_infidel> intelikey: that was a joke.
[06:32] <Jucato> :P
[06:32] <RoKFiT> Jucato: read what i wrote
[06:32] <Jucato> RoKFiT: I'm not sure why (about the screen)
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> ive not tried koffice yet.  I just tend to use abiword for quick and dirty letters. JUst noticd today how badly done the spellchecker feature of it is done. :(
[06:33] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: doesn't it use Aspell?
[06:33] <Zabulus> is the syntax to register /msg nickserv register (pw) (email)?
[06:33] <RoKFiT> odd
[06:33] <Jucato> RoKFiT: as for root login, we don't do root logins in Kubuntu. kdesu or sudo is enough to launch apps with root privileges. if you changed "sudo adept_installer" to "kdesu adept_installer" that will ask for the passsword when you launch it
[06:34] <intelikey> Zabulus /msg nickserv help register
[06:34] <RoKFiT> what do you mean "we just don't do"
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> no idea what its using under windows  the 'interfae' to its spell checking is brain dead.. typos like 'dosent' and so sorth dont even have suggestions.. there should be some sort of 'browser' incase you mess up the first letter of the word..
[06:34] <RoKFiT> is it possible?
[06:34] <dragon> hello
[06:34] <intelikey> yes
[06:34] <Jucato> RoKFiT: wait. what do you mean by "root login"? login into the root user from the login screen?
[06:34] <RoKFiT> yes
[06:34] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: so use Word
[06:34] <intelikey> RoKFiT i told you it was possable hours ago
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> Hmm the green wiggly lines seem to be.. err.. random.  :) i retype a line and it is only under part of it.. Heh. may be some sort of bug.
[06:35] <Zabulus> ...
[06:35] <unix_infidel> I use word in BOTH linux and windows
[06:35] <RoKFiT> intelikey: blank didn't work!
[06:35] <Jucato> RoKFiT: yes it is possible, but not recommended
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> troff ! :)
[06:35] <RoKFiT> neither did ubuntu
[06:35] <intelikey> RoKFiT blank what ?
[06:35] <Zabulus> the syntax it shows just uses REGISTER (pw), but, wouldnt everyone be able to see it?
[06:35] <RoKFiT> blank pw
[06:35] <RoKFiT> nothing as the password
[06:35] <RoKFiT> blank password
[06:36] <unix_infidel> Haha, That would be bloody awesome if we had a Linux vs. Windows commercial with a Pimp in  Red Hat.  Claiming he's run windows for years w/ wine :P
[06:36] <Jucato> omg! did you just give "root" a blank password?
[06:36] <RoKFiT> i didn't define any
[06:36] <unix_infidel> erm MS office.
[06:36] <RoKFiT> how would i have
[06:36] <RoKFiT> it never asked during install
[06:36] <gtwy> Jucato: oh wow that does work better it got rid of an error message i was getting
[06:36] <intelikey> RoKFiT there is not a root password    get that through your thick skull.    if you want a root password you have to set one.     and even then you can't login via kdm as root unless you configure kdm to allow it.
[06:36] <Jucato> !sudo | RoKFiT
[06:36] <ubotu> RoKFiT: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:37] <gtwy> Jucato: but question, i have it run the command "sudo kismet" in the terminal
[06:37] <Jucato> that page has all the information
[06:37] <RoKFiT> okay now i understand
[06:37] <gtwy> and it works okay, is that alright?
[06:37] <Zabulus> umm, i might be kind of randomly asking redundant questions, but, did you try the pw you log in with?
[06:37] <RoKFiT> do you guys run as root?
[06:37] <Jucato> gtwy: is kismet a graphical app?
[06:37] <dragon> erm can ne1 help me with kopete ????? ...... it dosint want to connect nemore it just sits there pretending its connecting
[06:37] <intelikey> RoKFiT i do some.   most of these in here don't
[06:37] <Jucato> RoKFiT: no
[06:37] <Jucato> RoKFiT: I use sudo or kdesu. my root account remains disabled
[06:37] <RoKFiT> intelikey: how do you set it up in kdm
[06:37] <gtwy> Jucato: alright alright i get it, but i am only asking because i launch it from the menu
[06:38] <intelikey> but my system is very far from default.
[06:38] <RoKFiT> intelikey: tell me how you enable it in kdm
[06:38] <Jucato> and intelikey is very far from being your average, normal user
[06:38] <Zabulus> okay, so once i register my pw on here, can i change it?
[06:38] <Jucato> robotgeek: you're not normal either :P
[06:38] <robotgeek> Zabulus: yes
[06:39] <Zabulus> good
[06:39] <Zabulus> REGISTER 12345
[06:39] <Zabulus> thought so
[06:39] <gtwy> intelikey: what do you do on your system
[06:39] <robotgeek> Jucato: no, really. i am on dapper
[06:39] <Jucato> gtwy: afaik, it's ok. as long as it's not a graphical app
[06:39] <Jucato> robotgeek: bah :P
[06:39] <RoKFiT> intelikey: are you there?
[06:40] <gtwy> Jucato: before i had made a new terminal link that opened "sudo bash" /in the terminal/, now i changed it to kdesu konsole and it removed an error message i used to get upon closing it
[06:40] <intelikey> gtwy i answer stupid questions in irc that no one else wants.... :)
[06:40] <gtwy> :)
[06:40] <RoKFiT> 4734 available packages, thats awesome
[06:40] <dragon> erm can ne1 help me with kopete ????? ...... it dosint want to connect nemore it just sits there pretending its connecting
[06:40] <LNXempire> is this correct sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[06:40] <Jucato> intelikey also answers stupid questions from stuipd people that no one wants to answer :P
[06:40] <LNXempire> can't find it
[06:41] <Jucato> LNXempire: no it is not.
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> I specilize in stupid answers to stupid questions
[06:41] <RoKFiT> and i am that stupid person?
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> Kubuntu Faq :)
[06:41] <Jucato> RoKFiT: no
[06:41] <intelikey> RoKFiT look in the menu for a way to configure the login process.   i don't think i should tell you how.  they might ban me from the channel.
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:41] <Jucato> LNXempire: what are you trying to do?
[06:41] <Jucato> intelikey: no you won't be. you're not in #ubuntu :P
[06:41] <LNXempire> get rid of ubuntu and install Kubuntu
[06:41] <intelikey> Jucato lol  true that
[06:41] <RoKFiT> lol intelikey
[06:42] <Jucato> intelikey: just take note that if teach him that and he messes his system up, it will be on your hands :P
[06:42] <intelikey> it has happened there before.
[06:42] <RoKFiT> tell me in pm
[06:42] <RoKFiT> Jucato: no it won't
[06:42] <Chris7mas> anybody here has an apache2 web server installed?
[06:42] <RoKFiT> i'll just reinstall again
[06:42] <Zabulus> isnt there an easier way to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[06:42] <Chris7mas> i noticed a strange thing... if i go on this website: http://ninharp.dynodns.net it will show me the contents of my web server
[06:42] <Chris7mas> and i don't have any domain associated with my ip address so why is that happening?
[06:42] <gtwy> RoKFiT: yes but on gentoo not ubuntu
[06:42] <Jucato> RoKFiT: just a suggestion. unless you really, absolutely, and fully know what you are doing, I wouldn't recommend enabling the root account or graphical login as root
[06:42] <robotgeek> Zabulus: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[06:43] <LNXempire> thanks
[06:43] <gtwy> Chris7mas: your ISP is assigning one
[06:43] <intelikey> Jucato it will be anyway.... if i answer any question, i'm responsable for what ever breaks for the next six months... havent you noticed that yet
[06:43] <RoKFiT> Jucato: you have told me this.  i would still like to do it.
[06:43] <Chris7mas> well...
[06:43] <Jucato> RoKFiT: that RootSudo page also has instructions on how to do what you want
[06:43] <Chris7mas> but that address (ninharp.dynodns.net), i found it on a xchat scripts page
[06:43] <intelikey> RoKFiT to set a root passwd   do this.   sudo passwd root
[06:44] <Chris7mas> so how comes that guy (which i never heard of before) put there as the homepage for his scripts this domain?
[06:44] <gtwy> Chris7mas: pm me with your IP and i will tell you if there is a domain associated with it
[06:44] <RoKFiT> sweet
[06:44] <Chris7mas> gtwy /whois chris7mas
[06:44] <RoKFiT> tvtime is not in repo?
[06:45] <gtwy> doh! undernet hides that for me when i log in
[06:45] <gtwy> cant believe freenode doesnt
[06:45] <RoKFiT> any tv applications
[06:45] <LNXempire> gtwy: hides waht?
[06:46] <gtwy> LNXempire: your ip
[06:46] <ninHer> gtwy: Chris7mas ip's is 89.39.4.39
[06:46] <gtwy> way past this
[06:46] <ninHer> everybody can see it here
[06:46] <LNXempire> well can't you manually hide it in freenode?
[06:46] <RoKFiT> can kmousetool change dpi?
[06:46] <BluDog_Anchorite> does anyone here know the best method for repairing a MBR after having to do a win re-install on a dual boot system ?
[06:47] <gtwy> ninHer: asked because i am used to undernet hiding everyones addresses but im not on undernet anymore
[06:47] <Jucato> !grub | BluDog_Anchorite
[06:47] <ubotu> BluDog_Anchorite: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:47] <ninHer> ok gtwy
[06:47] <intelikey> RoKFiT to enable kdm root login  edit  /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc   change line 246:  AllowRootLogin=false      enough said.
[06:48] <RoKFiT> good deal
[06:48] <intelikey> RoKFiT also if there is any other files like kdmrc.custom  or the like   you need to check them also.  there may be over-rides
[06:49] <RoKFiT> okay
[06:49] <gtwy> okay
[06:49] <RoKFiT> what about the autologin file?
[06:49] <intelikey> RoKFiT so you get that setup and come back here as root i'll own your box and publish any sensitive info that i find.
[06:49] <Zabulus> chris7mas, you still there?
[06:49] <gtwy> ninharp.dynodns.net is loop back
[06:49] <intelikey> RoKFiT got that.
[06:49] <gtwy> so anyone who tries to go there gets themselves
[06:49] <RoKFiT> i got that
[06:49] <gtwy> oh
[06:49] <gtwy> then why is he still asking me
[06:49] <Jucato> RoKFiT: oh, don't login to IRC as root
[06:50] <Jucato> duh... intelikey beat me to it
[06:50] <Chris7mas> omg
[06:50] <Chris7mas> lol :)
[06:50] <Chris7mas> so 255.255.255.255 is called loop back?
[06:50] <gtwy> Chris7mas: 127.0.0.1 is loop back
[06:50] <Chris7mas> so its ip address is actually 127.0.0.1 or what?
[06:50] <intelikey> RoKFiT as to the auto login it's just another line in the same file.   535:#AutoLoginEnable=true  545:#AutoLoginUser=root
[06:51] <Zabulus> i dont think 255.255.255.255 is anything...
[06:51] <gtwy> PING ninharp.dynodns.net (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
[06:51] <Jucato> intelikey: thou hast found a willing soul to be thy student :)
[06:51] <RoKFiT> i can't even get to the file
[06:51] <RoKFiT> brb
[06:51] <Jucato> in the dark arts of root :)
[06:51] <intelikey> Jucato lol
[06:51] <Chris7mas> nice :)
[06:52] <Zabulus> i ping the ninhapr.dynodns.net and get 0.0.0.0
[06:52] <intelikey> not yet.   my box is mostly gui-less but console root autologin  :)
[06:52] <Jucato> intelikey: <RoKFiT> i can't even get to the file ??
[06:52] <gtwy> Zabulus: its not important
[06:52] <intelikey> Jucato should i tell him ?
[06:53] <Zabulus> yeah, i know
[06:53] <Jucato> intelikey: your choice... :)
[06:53] <Jucato> can't leave him halfway there, though
[06:53] <intelikey> i'll let the bot do the rest.
[06:54] <Jucato> intelikey: thy student hath returneth
[06:54] <intelikey> !hidden | RoKFiT
[06:54] <ubotu> RoKFiT: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[06:54] <RoKFiT> back
[06:55] <RoKFiT> yeah uhm, i can't even navigate to /etc/kde3/kdm/.....
[06:55] <RoKFiT> nor can I login as root
[06:55] <RoKFiT> root login not allowed
[06:56] <intelikey> RoKFiT system files are generally not accessable or at least not changable for anyone but root.
[06:56] <intelikey> !hidden > RoKFiT
[06:56] <gtwy> RoKFiT: while you are trying to figure out how to log in as root why dont you open SSH for us
[06:56] <Jucato> gtwy: heh
[06:56] <gtwy> RoKFiT: why could you possibly want to log in as root
[06:56] <intelikey> RoKFiT and that ends another day of broadcasting....  </walks away>
[06:57] <gtwy> RoKFiT: tired of typing in your password? there is a much easier way
[06:57] <RoKFiT> why?  because i edit files in the root directory
[06:57] <gtwy> RoKFiT: try this
[06:57] <gtwy> open the terminal
[06:57] <intelikey> gtwy yes i could have told him to set sudoers == "ALL ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL"   :)
[06:57] <LNXempire> a lage number of users that change to linux complain about setting up a password
[06:58] <gtwy> RoKFiT: type: sudo nano /etc/sudoers
[06:58] <gtwy> go down to where it says %admin
[06:58] <gtwy> and change the line to: %admin  ALL=(ALL)       NOPASSWD: ALL
[06:59] <gtwy> and then right click on your konqueror button and configure it. go to the application tab and add "kdesu" before command
[07:01] <RoKFiT> can i just turn this user account into admin priviledges
[07:01] <gtwy> RoKFiT: go use windows.
[07:01] <gtwy> i mdone
[07:01] <Jucato> RoKFiT: it already is, in some way
[07:01] <RoKFiT> because with this method will my accounts be passwordless?
[07:02] <Jucato> RoKFiT: when an app asks for the administrator's password, it means *your* password
[07:02] <caf_> i'm so glad ATI RAGE is usable in ubuntu
[07:03] <caf_> it doesn't crash!
[07:04] <caf_> it's not like I can upgrade my card so yeah
[07:04] <RoKFiT> su returned with error
[07:04] <intelikey> RoKFiT if all you want is to break your pinguin, i can tell you a simple way.    at the login screen do this.  select console login     then login as root with the password you set for root   and  type   startx
[07:04] <caf_> I'm always told "LOL GET A JOB" when I send bug reports and they see I use ATI RAGE
[07:05] <caf_> >:(
[07:05] <RoKFiT> >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 19 <<<
[07:05] <RoKFiT> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 19
[07:06] <RoKFiT> how can i change the file back
[07:06] <intelikey> do what i just said ^^ and BaDaBing you are super(GUI)user
[07:06] <Zabulus_> gahhh, now i need help in windows...
[07:07] <Zabulus_> keep getting bsod with 0x00000007 code
[07:07] <Zabulus_> and i lost my name AGAIN
[07:07] <Jucato> Zabulus_: try ##windows ?
[07:07] <Jucato> Zabulus_: if Zabulus is registered, you can kill it with /msg NickServ GHOST <nick> <password>
[07:07] <intelikey> and yes there really is a windows channel here
[07:07] <RoKFiT> i will try, brb
[07:08] <intelikey> you've been warned about irc'ing as root.
[07:08] <Jucato> :p
[07:08] <purpleposeidon> How can I install spanish dictionary for oo?
[07:08] <purpleposeidon> ah, nvm I found it.
[07:09] <Zabulus_> YAY, i like that
[07:09] <Zabulus_> i killed the damn ghost
[07:09] <caf_> rofl I wonder if Quake 3 runs on this computer
[07:09] <caf_> I hear there's a linux port now
[07:10] <Zabulus_> figures, go to the windows room, bunch of people connected
[07:10] <Zabulus_> and they ARE ALL AFK!!!!
[07:10] <caf_> so maybe, just maybe, but I doubt it.
[07:10] <caf_> rofl all afk? that sucks.
[07:10] <Zabulus_> severely
[07:11] <RoKFiT> yeah, back, and i say forget that i dea
[07:11] <RoKFiT> idea*
[07:11] <RoKFiT> but thats lame i can't access the entire file system
[07:12] <RoKFiT> but i now have 2 new problems
[07:13] <RoKFiT> the login screen, or I assume it is X, is running my display at a Hz that is out of range.
[07:13] <gtwy> RoKFiT: have you ever played a rpg before.. maybe final fantasy
[07:14] <intelikey> RoKFiT yeah and problem number two, you edited sudoers without either knowing what you were doing or using visudo which should have let you cancel the changes when it saw that they wouldn't work.
[07:14] <RoKFiT> well how can i fix the display problem?  will the nvidia drivers fix this?
[07:15] <gtwy> RoKFiT: you ignoring my question?
[07:15] <RoKFiT> i played it on play station
[07:15] <RoKFiT> i don't like video games that much
[07:16] <gtwy> RoKFiT: what happened if you, when you were like a level 2 or 3 noob, went to a place they werent suppose to be... a part of the game they are suppose to go to later?
[07:17] <RoKFiT> you tell me what would happen
[07:17] <gtwy> they get owned
[07:17] <intelikey> let's see.   sudoers is borked and gui login maybe malcomfigured... so it looks from here like, you will probably reload the system to streighten it out.
[07:17] <RoKFiT> probably
[07:17] <RoKFiT> there isn't any other way to edit the file
[07:18] <gtwy> whats the url to the pastebin
[07:18] <gtwy> you can paste your sudoers file
[07:18] <RoKFiT> how can i even get to it?
[07:18] <gtwy> you have access to the terminal right
[07:18] <intelikey> RoKFiT yeah there are ways.  but you are too green to go there.
[07:19] <RoKFiT> oh shoot
[07:19] <RoKFiT> i just showed hidden files
[07:19] <RoKFiT> i forgot they were hidden
[07:19] <RoKFiT> now i can see the filesystem
[07:19] <intelikey> wont matter you can't edit them.
[07:20] <gtwy> All this because of some periods?
[07:20] <gtwy> ls -al
[07:20] <intelikey> gtwy no
[07:20] <RoKFiT> can i change permissions on the file
[07:20] <intelikey> !hidden | gtwy
[07:20] <ubotu> gtwy: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[07:20] <intelikey> RoKFiT no
[07:20] <RoKFiT> why not
[07:20] <intelikey> not without sudo
[07:20] <RoKFiT> dude
[07:20] <intelikey> didn't you mess up your sudoers file ?
[07:20] <RoKFiT> yeah
[07:21] <gtwy> RoKFiT: try sudo bash
[07:21] <gtwy> and see if it errors
[07:21] <RoKFiT> yeah
[07:21] <RoKFiT> who told me to edit it wrong, like they knew what they were doing
[07:21] <gtwy> i told you something that works fine
[07:21] <gtwy> i copied and pasted from my own sudo file
[07:21] <gtwy> not my fault you cant type
[07:22] <RoKFiT> right
[07:22] <gtwy> put the live cd in and fix it
[07:22] <RoKFiT> so any other ways to fix this
[07:22] <RoKFiT> how
[07:22] <intelikey> gtwy it's all your fault...
[07:22] <RoKFiT> how
[07:22] <intelikey> RoKFiT drop to a console and login as root
[07:22] <RoKFiT> how
[07:23] <RoKFiT> konsole is open
[07:23] <RoKFiT> if i logout i can't login as root
[07:23] <RoKFiT> even at terminal
[07:23] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+f1     use  ctrl+alt+f7  to get back here.
[07:23] <RoKFiT> and do what when i get there
[07:23] <intelikey> visudo
[07:23] <RoKFiT> type that in
[07:23] <intelikey> undo what ever you did.
[07:23] <gtwy> RoKFiT: do us all a favor and just rm -rf /
[07:24] <intelikey> yes type that in  and then fix your mess
[07:24] <intelikey> gtwy be nice.
[07:24] <gtwy> sorry sorry
[07:25] <Zabulus> hmm, now i need to get that error again...
[07:25] <intelikey> RoKFiT rm means remove and / means the base of the whole system.   don't rm -r /   as root unless you are ready to reload and don't have a windows partition mounted or anything like that
[07:26] <mae> anyone get skype going on 64 bit? i don't have libXcursor 64 bit :(
[07:26] <intelikey> gtwy i agree it'd be easier on us   but not on him.
[07:26] <mae> or 32 bit i thin rather
[07:26] <RoKFiT> lol i fixed it
[07:26] <RoKFiT> :D
[07:26] <RoKFiT> too happy!~!~
[07:26] <intelikey> RoKFiT congrats.
[07:26] <gtwy> good
[07:27] <RoKFiT> okay i'll shutup guys.
[07:27] <intelikey> there may be hope for you yet.
[07:27] <RoKFiT> just do we have a tv application?  so i can shutup and watch tv.  tv-to-shut me up?
[07:27] <robotgeek> RoKFiT: tvtime works fine
[07:27] <intelikey> yes more than one in fact
[07:27] <RoKFiT> how can I install it
[07:28] <RoKFiT> apt-get tvtime?
[07:28] <robotgeek> !info tvtime
[07:28] <ubotu> tvtime: A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-2.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 636 kB, installed size 1768 kB
[07:28] <robotgeek> RoKFiT: enable universe, and install it
[07:28] <intelikey> didn't he enable universe eariler ???
[07:28] <RoKFiT> where is universe?
[07:28] <intelikey> i guess not.
[07:28] <mortici> whats a good plugin for firefox to watch movies in it. like mpg's, mov's, or avi's?
[07:29] <intelikey> RoKFiT adept
[07:29] <RoKFiT> what part
[07:29] <dragon> erm can ne1 help me with kopete ????? ...... it dosint want to connect nemore it just sits there pretending its connecting
[07:29] <RoKFiT> I'm in the manager
[07:29] <mortici> dragon, stop all connections
[07:29] <mortici> and try again
[07:29] <dragon> i did
[07:29] <mortici> hmmm
[07:29] <intelikey> Jucato could walk you right through it.
[07:30] <RoKFiT> so i go to view
[07:30] <RoKFiT> manage repositories
[07:30] <dragon> i even tryed comileing the newest ver from source and that didint work wither
[07:30] <RoKFiT> and...?
[07:30] <mortici> RoKFiT, yes
[07:30] <RoKFiT> and how do i enable it?
[07:30] <mortici> then there are sources there
[07:30] <mortici> right click and enagle anythign with universe in it
[07:31] <RoKFiT> okay thank you
[07:31] <mortici> dragon, any network config changes?
[07:31] <dragon> changed router (because had to change isp)
[07:32] <dragon> stoped working day i canged router ,... and i cannot change the router back :-\
[07:32] <mortici> hmm
[07:32] <mortici> possibly a port forwarding issue
[07:32] <dragon> mmk i know roughly how to set up port forwarding
[07:32] <mortici> find out which ports each service uses
[07:33] <RoKFiT> i enabled universe and clicked apply and nothing appears in the search
[07:33] <mortici> and enable those ports
[07:33] <mortici> RoKFiT, do Fetch updates first
[07:33] <mortici> then search
[07:33] <RoKFiT> i did
[07:33] <dragon> ok thx
[07:33] <mortici> any time you add a repo, you have to fetch updates
[07:34] <intelikey> and anytime you remove one, you should
[07:34] <RoKFiT> right, but i still can't find the app
[07:34] <mortici> dragon, then again it really should matter on which router you use, but this one in particular might be more picky
[07:34] <intelikey> RoKFiT did you enable all the lines with universe ?
[07:34] <dragon> :-\
[07:35] <mortici> should i use firefox-gxine plugin to watch avi's from within firefox, or kaffiene plugin?
[07:35] <gtwy> im sure this has been sent already but i dont see it so
[07:35] <gtwy> !repositories | RoKFiT
[07:35] <ubotu> RoKFiT: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:35] <chx> hi. when going into Kopete // Settings // some account // modify I see something very strange beside the Remember password -- it's not an X neither it's empty, it's a square with lines
[07:35] <chx> and no matter what I do Kopete does not log in
[07:35] <chx> there seems to some wallet problem
[07:36] <gtwy> chx: try gaim?
[07:36] <chx> we are on Kubuntu, thanks for you advice
[07:36] <gtwy> it still installs fine
[07:37] <gtwy> just because you use kde doesnt mean you cant, heaven's fobid, use one gnome application
[07:37] <chx> but I do not want
[07:37] <RoKFiT> how do i change the login manager to not run my monitor at a bad Hz?
[07:37] <RoKFiT> or X
[07:37] <mortici> does the gxineplugin play movies in firefox or does i launch xine then it plays the movie?
[07:37] <chx> hmmm
[07:37] <chx> works now
[07:38] <intelikey> what error; sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ubuntu-desktop xubunt-desktop
[07:40] <robotgeek> spelt wrong?
[07:41] <intelikey> RoKFiT the "login manager" commonly called kdm doesn't do anything with the rezolution or refresh rates. afaik     what ever xorg.conf default is should be what kdm is using.
[07:41] <intelikey> robotgeek hehhe yeah.  but that's beside the point.
[07:45] <RoKFiT> maybe i need a reboot?
[07:46] <intelikey> yeah that would be the Windows thing  to do
[07:46] <intelikey> ah.
[07:46] <intelikey> but this is not windows.
[07:47] <RoKFiT> any good ftp programs?
[07:48] <unix_infidel> RoKFiT: client or server?
[07:49] <unix_infidel> proftpd is a great server, and ncftp is a great cli client, alternatively, gftp is a good gui ftp client.
[07:50] <unix_infidel> be aware though that proftpd has some security flaws that might not have been patched yet.
[07:50] <RoKFiT> client
[07:50] <unix_infidel> http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/2856
[07:50] <RoKFiT> yeah i want gui
[07:50] <unix_infidel> gftp
[07:50] <intelikey> ftp sftp ncftp gfpt konqueror does ftp   and so does mc
[07:50] <unix_infidel> there's also a firefox extention.
[07:51] <intelikey> gftp
[07:51] <RoKFiT> stupid question, but are any "kde look friendly"
[07:51] <RoKFiT> like they look like they belong on kde
[07:51] <intelikey> konqueror  is part of kde
[07:51] <unix_infidel> RoKFiT: if you want something that does FTP like windowx explorer, Konq is your best bet.
[07:51] <RoKFiT> no i want something like cuteftp or smartftp
[07:52] <intelikey> gentoo is good with ftp also
[07:52] <mortici> lol
[07:52] <mortici> gentoo is great if you have the time or patience
[07:52] <intelikey> mortici just apt-get install gentoo
[07:52] <mortici> lol
[07:52] <intelikey> don't take long.
[07:53] <intelikey> a few seconds
[07:53] <unix_infidel> hmmm, smartftp DOES look like a good windows client.
[07:53] <Invisible_Slack> I have a Dual Core AMD 3800+ with Nforce 4 chipset dual raptor 74 gigs and 1 gig ram with nvidia 7800 video card I keep trying to install kubuntu and everytime it gets to the blue screen loading it just freezes.. Any ideas?
[07:53] <mortici> intelikey, i droped gentoo 2 days ago after using it for 2 years, and i couldn't be happier here
[07:53] <unix_infidel> mortici: in favor of?
[07:53] <mortici> kubuntu
[07:54] <intelikey> mortici so maybe you haven't understood me here.  i haven't mentioned the linux distro "gentoo"   but the file managere "gentoo"
[07:54] <RoKFiT> bbl guys thanks for the help
[07:54] <mortici> intelikey, oh whooooops
[07:54] <mortici> :P
[07:55] <intelikey> ;/
[07:55] <intelikey> as i was saying   'gentoo' does ftp  very well
[07:55] <intelikey> but most don't like the interface that well
[07:56] <gtwy> mortici: why did you drop gentoo? etc-update?
[08:01] <BluDog_Anchorite> the rescue operation 'grub-reinstall' failed with exit code 20.   any idea why i cant re-install grub ?
[08:01] <gtwy> mortici: why did you drop gentoo? etc-update?
[08:02] <mortici> gtwy, emerge was becoming a hassle, portage was becoming more broken, and keeping the distro clean was a nightmare, plus i couldn't get beryl to run for the life of me
[08:03] <gtwy> mortici: portage does seem to break a lot for updates
[08:03] <mortici> as far as customizability, and actual learning its fantastic
[08:03] <gtwy> i dont know, gentoo is more of a command line only type of system even though i have used X on it
[08:03] <mortici> you learn a lot more by using it, mainly about how stuff interacts and what now
[08:03] <tony__> anyone play wolfenstein ET here and had the sound issue?
[08:03] <gtwy> mortici: agreed
[08:04] <mortici> but the fact that it took me 1.5 hours to setup a full running kubuntu system with EVERYTHING i had on the gentoo system which took (at least for me) a few weeks cause i had to do everything manually
[08:04] <mortici> then again it was a great learning experience
[08:05] <gtwy> mortici: minimal gentoo install taught me a lot... took about a week because i would do a few hours here and there
[08:05] <mortici> yep
[08:05] <mortici> took almost 8 hours to bootstrap my laptop
[08:05] <gtwy> mortici: if something breaks on the kubuntu system at least you know your way around now though, right?
[08:06] <mortici> compiling everything was great and all but a huge time sink
[08:06] <mortici> gtwy, enough to fix most things
[08:06] <mortici> ive gotten stuck here and there
[08:06] <gtwy> i used to think it was real cool to compile everything
[08:06] <mortici> just cause the errors were waaaayyyy to vague
[08:06] <mortici> gtwy, so did i
[08:06] <gtwy> but i think gentoo sort of kills it by overdoing it
[08:06] <mortici> lol untill i realized i could of had the same apps installed in less then a few mins
[08:07] <xsacha> i use crux distro and it takes me a day to get it setup like kubuntu (everything compiled from source, .. even gcc, kernel, xorg, kde)
[08:07] <gtwy> especially when you go to install a program and it needs to compile 22 things first
[08:07] <mortici> gtwy, exactly
[08:07] <mortici> lol
[08:07] <xsacha> from fresh install
[08:07] <gtwy> mortici: ill tell you what though, i put gentoo on my amd x2 64
[08:07] <gtwy> and it was QUICK
[08:07] <mortici> I heard good things about Arch, but i heard great things about kubuntu as well so i figured id go with it
[08:08] <mortici> gtwy, i bet, compared to my 1ghz intel centrino
[08:08] <xsacha> i think it's good to have a source distro and a package distro
[08:08] <xsacha> crux on primary, kubuntu on secondary
[08:08] <mortici> xsacha, nice
[08:08] <gtwy> i still use gentoo for my servers
[08:08] <mortici> once i upgrade my desktop
[08:09] <mortici> ill prolly run kubuntu and gentoo
[08:09] <gtwy> seriously though, until i tried kubuntu i didnt think that linux was a serious desktop os
[08:16] <ubuntu> hi all?
[08:16] <RoKFiT> i enabled and downloaded nvidia-glx and rebooted, but my driver says nv still
[08:17] <robotgeek> RoKFiT, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:17] <robotgeek> ubuntu: hello
[08:17] <ubuntu> o..
[08:17] <ubuntu> i am using a cd
[08:18] <ubuntu> can i listen to *.wma file?
[08:18] <robotgeek> ubuntu: with the codecs, you cna
[08:18] <RoKFiT> robotgeek: what option do i want to select for an nvidia 7600gs?
[08:18] <robotgeek> !restricted > ubuntu
[08:18] <RoKFiT> nv?
[08:18] <robotgeek> RoKFiT: something other than nv, i would guess
[08:18] <robotgeek> RoKFiT: i am not sure, i dont use nvdia/ati
[08:19] <RoKFiT> i don't see anything suitable
[08:19] <RoKFiT> i was moreless looking to install nvidia drivers.  in fedora the update manager installed a driver
[08:19] <RoKFiT> kmod-nvidia
[08:21] <ubuntu> does anyone knows how to download the codecs?
[08:22] <RoKFiT> for what
[08:23] <robotgeek> ubuntu: i gave you link to page explaining how?
[08:23] <ubuntu> um thx
[08:23] <RoKFiT> lol
[08:23] <ubuntu> for windows audio] 
[08:24] <RoKFiT> kubuntu is too phat
[08:26] <ubuntu> what is the meaning of "phat"???
[08:29] <intelikey> well that's an odd error.   "I'm sorry, You cannot use blackbox without php 4.2 or later.
[08:30] <intelikey> dapper has php5... that must have been an old script.
[08:33] <intelikey> hmmm and you have to install apache to install php5   that's wac
[08:37] <dennister> hello ppls
[08:37] <dennister> anyone awake?
[08:37] <julle> hello
[08:37] <dennister> ji julie
[08:37] <pierre_> im here...
[08:38] <dennister> oops...jullle
[08:38] <julle> ;)
[08:38] <dennister> can't spell tonight, sorry...hi pierre
[08:38] <pierre_> hehe
[08:38] <intelikey> that would be a matter of openion dennister
[08:38] <dennister> i guess i get this way when I have a social dilemma, lol
[08:39] <dennister> hi intelikey :)
[08:39] <unix_infidel> heh, did you have an actual question?
[08:39] <intelikey> :)
[08:39] <pierre_> i have one....
[08:39] <dennister> it's off-topic, would anyone mind a quick one?
[08:39] <pierre_> whats the topic??
[08:40] <intelikey> shoot
[08:40] <dennister> pierre_: if you have a kubuntu-related question, ur would have priority
[08:40] <intelikey> !topic
[08:40] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[08:40] <julle> is there a simple guide somewhere on how to compile a new kernel?
[08:40] <pierre_> im new whit linux...........
[08:41] <julle> pierre_: so am i :)
[08:41] <pierre_> hehe
[08:41] <intelikey> julle kernel.org ?
[08:41] <pierre_> how can i look for different server on irc?
[08:41] <dennister> i've been volunteering for over a year at a national charity...now they've invited me for cocktails with the Board of Directors for International Volunteer Day...these directors fly from all over Canada for these quarterly meetings...and I really want to turn down this honour :(
[08:41] <julle> intelikey: ok i'll check that out
[08:42] <intelikey> julle may i enquire as to why you are rolling your own kernel ?
[08:42] <pierre_> LOL
[08:42] <dennister> how can I get away with this without it being a horrible snub...they've even told me to bring a guest :(
[08:42] <intelikey> dennister tell them you're not interested
[08:43] <pierre_> i see....
[08:43] <dennister> lol is right...but it's so rude...none of the staff get invited to these things
[08:43] <julle> intelikey: i wanted to update the kernel to the latest
[08:44] <MPat> Hi! I run into a question and decided to ask here. I have not been able to find kaffeine sc plugin. Do you know if there is one available?
[08:44] <compnstuff> did you check on automatix...thought I saw one there
[08:44] <intelikey> ok. i'm wierd.   but i find it far more paletable when someone is open and honest than when they try to " not hurt my feelings "  dennister
[08:44] <dennister> never mind...it's the holidays...I'll say I had a previous seasonal obligation
[08:45] <MPat> i will check.
[08:45] <intelikey> sure lie to them....
[08:45] <intelikey> that's always easier
[08:45] <dennister> i actually agree with you intelikey...i prefer the blunt truth to a polite lie any day
[08:46] <dennister> hence my dilemma :(
[08:46] <dennister> be a hypocrite or tell a lie
[08:46] <ArrenLex> Sorry, I came late. Why does this involve you being a hypocrite?
[08:47] <dennister> oops...be a hypocrite and* tell a lie, or be rude and turn down what's intended to be an honour
[08:47] <ArrenLex> Well, do you think it's worse to lie or to be rude?
[08:47] <dennister> or grin and bear it and keep my trap shut
[08:47] <ArrenLex> Yes, or suffer.
[08:48] <compnstuff> quikQ...Ubuntu runs fine...I like KDE...install Kubuntu and had to reinstall my vid drivers etc...Y???
[08:48] <intelikey> dennister either or ???   sounded more like   "be a hypocritical lier "  or  " possably offend someone with the truth "
[08:48] <dennister> there's the rub...I don't know...I don't really want to tell them the truth about why I don't want to go
[08:48] <intelikey> yeah or that last one.
[08:48] <dennister> lol...technical questions and dilemmas are easier
[08:48] <intelikey> ArrenLex if that would have been aimed at me, the answer is easy.
[08:49] <ArrenLex> intelikey: for myself as well, of course.
[08:49] <ArrenLex> I'm a jerk :)
[08:51] <dennister> would u go to a function to receive an 'honor' you have no itnerest in, realizing that others are trying to reward and recognize your gifts to them?
[08:51] <intelikey> dennister would i or have i ?
[08:51] <dennister> both
[08:52] <dennister> either
[08:52] <intelikey> either way.  generally yes
[08:52] <intelikey> yes have  and generally would.
[08:53] <intelikey> but if for what ever reason i desided not to.  that would be the answer.    not some polite lie.
[08:54] <Zabulus> im baaaack
[08:54] <dennister> test lag
[08:54] <fyun> huh?
[08:54] <Zabulus> im just waiting for that stupid bsod again
[08:55] <intelikey> oh my.   i just remembered i'm lagging       bad.   my answers must look oddd
[08:55] <MPat> compnstuff, no sc in automatix, any other idea?
[08:55] <intelikey> dennister yeah lag.
[08:55] <dennister> i'm lagging too, not to worry
[08:55] <unix_infidel> Zabulus: it'll give you more verbose output than just a BSOD
[08:55] <compnstuff> *MPat, checked latest repositories list
[08:55] <no_name> fe
[08:56] <no_name> ok thanks
[08:56] <Zabulus> on windows, i just forgot to write everything down
[08:56] <dennister> well, thx for the input...i'll shut up about this and go on-topic again
[08:56] <unix_infidel> Zabulus: my best guess is that it's trying to find a kernel from the local cd that works with your newfangled hardware but it's not finding the appropriate kernel
[08:56] <dennister> my kde's a total mess :(
[08:56] <Zabulus> got so used to resetting when i saw the bsod in windows 95
[08:56] <Zabulus> yeah, but i just gotta figure out which one
[08:56] <intelikey> ok i'm caught up now.  all the lag will probably be 'pebcak' now.
[08:56] <dennister> bash tab-completion isn't even working anymore
[08:57] <GoC-> Hola, alguien de espaa?
[08:57] <unix_infidel> !es
[08:57] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:57] <dennister> anyone got a fix for that? or even know why it might stop working?
[08:57] <Zabulus> i enabled logging of wiadebug.log
[08:58] <intelikey> dennister two clues.   tab key not working    or  tab key maped incorrectly.
[08:58] <dennister> well name-tab completion in konversation is working fine, so it can't be the key...
[08:59] <intelikey> dennister ok.  drop into a console and test bash there
[09:01] <dennister> nope...console tabbing just acts like it's a document
[09:01] <dennister> but I know I haven't made any edits to the keyboard mapping
[09:02] <dennister> i have to blame kde...so many other problems with it exist I'm afraid I may have to install everything from scratch again
[09:02] <intelikey> dennister ok  then go back there and use   showkey    hit tab   and see if you get    0x0f 0x8f       (incase you are new to showkey, just wait 10 seconds and it ends)
[09:03] <Zabulus> `.
[09:03] <Zabulus> ~.
[09:03] <bkudria> i have a flash drive that i had renamed in mac os x, and now kubuntu mounts it under that name in /media.  cool!  i want to rename another drive, but i don't have access to mac os x anymore...how can i do it?
[09:03] <Zabulus> :.
[09:03] <unix_infidel> Zabulus: problem?
[09:03] <Zabulus> no, just bored, still
[09:04] <unix_infidel> Zabulus: then stop scrolling with meaningless content.  open up your $EDITOR
[09:04] <Zabulus> T_T
[09:05] <intelikey> is  $EDITOR  actually used ?
[09:05] <Zabulus> sorry, im tired and am proceeding to lose my mind
[09:05] <unix_infidel> intelikey: i believe so, i'm not sure.
[09:05] <unix_infidel> intelikey: yea.
[09:05] <intelikey> unix_infidel i figured it just relied on /usr/bin/editor
[09:06] <dennister> all i get is the help section or the cursor tabbing over
[09:06] <unix_infidel> intelikey: i remember i had to manually export it to vim in hoary.
[09:06] <unix_infidel> otherwise, when i did visudo, it would open up nano.
[09:06] <dennister> nor am i able to go backwards in a line of code
[09:07] <intelikey> unix_infidel yeah it was using /usr/bin/editor  which was by default nano
[09:07] <intelikey> my visudo uses mcedit
[09:07] <unix_infidel> *shrug* it just gets used wherever i throw my .bashrc
[09:07] <dennister> if i hit the backspace key I just get ^[[D
[09:08] <intelikey> dennister yeah you have a bad key map there.
[09:08] <dennister> and that's just the bash problems...what about kdeinit, ksycocoa errors, crashes, etc?
[09:08] <dennister> reinstall the whole bloody thing?
[09:08] <intelikey> i've seen that before.   but i can't tell you the easy cure, off the top of my head
[09:09] <intelikey> dennister that's one soultion
[09:09] <intelikey> solution maybe
[09:09] <dennister> i might have to anyway, once my new tuner gets here from hauppauge
[09:10] <intelikey> fruadian perhaps
[09:10] <dennister> it only took 2 days to go from Toronto to NY with purolater ground :)
[09:10] <dennister> freudian u mean?
[09:11] <intelikey> did i ?   :)
[09:11] <intelikey> it's too late for such....
[09:12] <dennister> I'll wait till i get the tuner back, and do it all next weekend...if it wasn't for that bloody cocktail party I'd have that weekend completely free
[09:12] <intelikey> how ya like that quit message ?
[09:12] <dennister> cute intelikey...u hitting the sack?
[09:12] <GoC-> espaol
[09:13] <intelikey> not yet
[09:13] <intelikey> -:- SignOff Zabulus: #kubuntu ("IceChat - Its what Cool People use") <<<  what would mine say ?
[09:13] <dennister> perhaps someone knows the answer to this question i posted in the mailing list:
[09:13] <intelikey> bx it's what....
[09:13] <intelikey> never mind.
[09:14] <dennister> is there any NPO status for the loco teams? or ubuntu itself?
[09:14] <intelikey> NPO ?
[09:14] <dennister> NonProfit Organization
[09:14] <intelikey> oh
[09:15] <intelikey> dennister being world wide   i'm not sure that would apply anyway
[09:16] <dennister> yeah...but the locos are national, so they might be registerable
[09:16] <intelikey> might be
[09:17] <dennister> it's ok...hoping to get an answer in the mailing list...i'm just impatient when I'm curious
[09:17] <dennister> I think i will go to bed myself...it's after 3 am here and I've been glad to get back to a better schedule lately
[09:18] <dennister> good night all
[09:18] <intelikey> shalom dennister
[09:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[09:18] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock
[09:19] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey:
[09:19] <intelikey> i'm not a bot.  check with ubotu
[09:19] <MilhousePunkRock> ;-)
[09:20] <intelikey> lol
[09:20] <intelikey> had you wondering didn't i
[09:20] <MilhousePunkRock> Actually not...
[09:20] <intelikey> long time no C++
[09:20] <ubuntu> halooo
[09:20] <intelikey> how you been ?
[09:20] <MilhousePunkRock> What makes me wonder though is that I don't have any battery/power related settings anymore after I upgraded to Edgy...
[09:21] <MilhousePunkRock> I've been fine so far... Pretty busy in university, but still fine...
[09:21] <MilhousePunkRock> What about you?
[09:21] <intelikey> well
[09:21] <intelikey> fat and sassy
[09:21] <MilhousePunkRock> Hehe...
[09:23] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: You probably remember how I fought with the power management on my laptop on Dapper for weeks and weeks, don't you?
[09:23] <intelikey> vaguely
[09:25] <intelikey> other peoples problems fade into a blurr with time....  it seems to take about 4.2 seconds to start the process  :)
[09:26] <intelikey> !acpi
[09:26] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[09:27] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: The point is, Edgy made it work (somewhat)...
[09:27] <intelikey> ah kewl
[09:28] <intelikey> but you now have no "battery/power related settings"    correct ?
[09:28] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: Not out of the box though, of course... And I am missing the setting for both battery/power and the hotkeys in KControl now...
[09:29] <MilhousePunkRock> I added a new user to check some edgy stuff in "vanilla" mode... I never looked if he has the settings though
[09:29] <intelikey> yeah i hear that kcontrol changed somewhat   i'm still with the LTS
[09:30] <intelikey> could quote one as havving said,  "ah it's still there just moved"   but didn't catch what he was looking at in kcontrol
[09:31] <intelikey> havving ?    typo king at your service.
[09:33] <leafw> does anyone know where are the address book entries stored under ~/.kde ?
[09:33] <leafw> a grep doesn't find emails that I know are in the book
[09:33] <leafw> or, is there any way to open the address book and export it somehow?
[09:34] <intelikey> leafw you should be able to export     which app ?    kontact ?
[09:34] <leafw> from kmail
[09:37] <MilhousePunkRock> leafw: I think KMail has an export function
[09:39] <MilhousePunkRock> leafw: I did not find it now though... Where do you want your mails to go?
[09:39] <leafw> I need the email addresses, not the emails themselves
[09:39] <intelikey> leafw kmail menu  'tools > address book ' address book menu 'file > export '
[09:39] <leafw> intelikey : thanks!
[09:40] <leafw> now, though, where are they stored? Shouldn't they be under ~/.kde/ somewhere?
[09:40] <ubuntu_> hello all
[09:40] <leafw> are they in binary, and a grep doesn't see them ?
[09:40] <intelikey> just a note; it took 85% of that time to setup kmail so i could look and 10% to type in the answer.
[09:40] <robotgeek> leafw: .kde/apps/share/kdeaddressbook, maybe?
[09:41] <intelikey> so 5% of that time was my looking time.  surely you could have found it...
[09:41] <kubuntu-power> hello i just got shipped the live cd of kubuntu 6.06 lts and thanx for that
[09:41] <leafw> robotgeek : I don't have the kdeaddressbook entry
[09:41] <leafw> but kmail was using some address book anyway
[09:41] <robotgeek> leafw: i am just guessing, i am too lazy to look :)
[09:41] <leafw> aha
[09:41] <kubuntu-power> im now on the live cd can u help me dubble partion so i have xp and kubuntu 2 in 1?
[09:41] <leafw> maybe /kab
[09:42] <kubuntu-power> hello leaf u able to help me?
[09:42] <leafw> hum, share/apps/kabc!
[09:43] <kubuntu-power> im creating a dubble partion from the kubuntu live cd so i can have xp to
[09:43] <kubuntu-power> can u help me in it?
[09:43] <leafw> your setup involves propietary software, so if you want help, you should pay for it.
[09:43] <kubuntu-power> what u mean?
[09:44] <leafw> ask www.ubuntu.com, commercial support.
[09:44] <intelikey> kubuntu-power just make free 'unpartitioned' space on the hd and let the *buntu installer do the partition work.    it will insist on formating it anyway.
[09:44] <kubuntu-power> ok intel follow me if im doing riight
[09:45] <intelikey> riight ?    fraudian ?
[09:45] <intelikey> no just a typo....    never mind.
[09:47] <kubuntu-power> ok on dev 1 i got xp 74,52 gb and xp simbol ntfs on dev 2 i did ext3 got the pengin simbol and 7 .84 mb right intel?
[09:48] <kubuntu-power> i have to create the kubuntu partion as primary or extended ?
[09:48] <intelikey> doesn't matter  linux is not picky
[09:49] <kubuntu-power> ok
[09:49] <kubuntu-power> then i do primary
[09:49] <unix_infidel> remember though.
[09:49] <unix_infidel> you're limited to a set numbe rof primary partitions.
[09:49] <kubuntu-power> i got a 80 gb hd how much i have to make the kubuntu partion of?
[09:49] <MilhousePunkRock> kubuntu-power: Make sure you defragmented the XP disk with something better than windows internal defrag tool
[09:49] <kubuntu-power> like what?
[09:50] <kubuntu-power> btw i did it whit xp one says it's fine now
[09:50] <intelikey> kubuntu-power you need at least 3g  would be better if 6+ if you have a seperate home partition
[09:50] <unix_infidel> MilhousePunkRock: never had problems with the shipped defrag tool.
[09:50] <kubuntu-power> i got left 74.52 gb
[09:51] <kubuntu-power> ok ill do primary partion then ext3 is ok ?
[09:51] <kubuntu-power> or i put else then ext3?
[09:52] <unix_infidel> ext3 is safest. but not the fastest.
[09:52] <unix_infidel> google against your options.
[09:52] <intelikey> like i said the system needs at least 3g   so   4g for /   69g for /home  and the 1.2 or what ever is left as swap if you plan on using swap
[09:52] <unix_infidel> wait, you've got an 80GB drive, with 74GB free with a windows install residing in the 6GB
[09:52] <unix_infidel> not smart. imho
[09:52] <kubuntu-power> yes i got xp pro 80 gb hd
[09:52] <intelikey> unix_infidel why not ?
[09:53] <unix_infidel> intelikey: if i'm understanding correctly, he's putting xp within ~6GB
[09:53] <intelikey> unix_infidel i've installed xp on 4g
[09:53] <bkudria> when i plug in my zaurus (acting as a mass-storgae device), kubuntu mounts 8 copies.  how do i fix it?
[09:53] <intelikey> unix_infidel what's the point ?
[09:53] <robotgeek> unix_infidel: that's okay, he can always make a ext3 partition and read it in windows
[09:53] <kubuntu-power> i all ready have xp im using the live cd of kubuntu is kubuntu i have to install now not xp to have 2 in 1
[09:54] <unix_infidel> Do what you want, you'll regret putting XP within 6GB later if you actually intend on "USING" it.
[09:54] <kubuntu-power> ok
[09:54] <unix_infidel> Hell, your swap file is approx 1GB
[09:54] <Voker57> how to change trashbin properties?
[09:55] <kubuntu-power> so it says 0.00 gb how u write 6 gb in it?
[09:55] <intelikey> unix_infidel no.  your swap file in xp is sizable
[09:55] <kubuntu-power> dimesion 6 .00gb correst this for kubuntu
[09:56] <kubuntu-power> correct*
[09:56] <unix_infidel> intelikey: i was just trying to make the point that XP management of resources is horrendous.  6GB to play with is reasonable, but barely enough.
[09:57] <intelikey> unix_infidel i don't have a drive that large  :)
[09:57] <unix_infidel> intelikey: lol, then spend less money on vanilla pepsi and after about a month you'll have 20 bucks.
[09:58] <unix_infidel> more than enough for a 250GB PATA drive :P
[09:58] <intelikey> vanilla pepsi ????  yuch
[09:58] <MilhousePunkRock> bkudria: You could create a udev rule to have it assigned the same name always no matter in what order you plug in mass storage devices
[09:58] <bkudria> MilhousePunkRock: it is already assigned a name, it is mounted as name, name-1, name-2, etc
[09:58] <kubuntu-power> is this how u write 6.00 gb?
[09:59] <kubuntu-power> couse i got 0.00 and don't know how to write it
[09:59] <intelikey> kubuntu-power i'm not sure what you are looking at there ?
[09:59] <intelikey> kubuntu-power what app ?
[10:00] <kubuntu-power> afther ext3 says dimension of the mb gb 0.00
[10:00] <kubuntu-power> i want to put  6 gb for kubuntu how i write that in it?
[10:00] <MilhousePunkRock> kubuntu-power: You could use GPartEd to partition your drive...
[10:00] <intelikey> s/could/should/
[10:00] <MilhousePunkRock> That's what I always use, it works fine and is really easy to use...
[10:01] <kubuntu-power> im using the live cd works fine just nead how to write the corect gb size in this 0.00
[10:01] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: :-D
[10:01] <intelikey> try 6g
[10:01] <Voker57> How to configure the Trashbin???
[10:01] <kubuntu-power> how much does kubuntu take btw?
[10:01] <kubuntu-power> xp says here 3gb
[10:01] <MilhousePunkRock> kubuntu-power: Depends on your needs
[10:02] <kubuntu-power> well i just nead to chat download and surf web
[10:02] <kubuntu-power> but as i got 74 gb to waste
[10:02] <intelikey> seeing that ive been ignored on that point, i think i'll decline to mention that i already said that the kubuntu installer needed 3g minimum
[10:04] <intelikey> btw unix_infidel  what does a pata drive plug into in an scsi box ?
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> ok, make it 10 for windows, 10 for kubuntu, 2 times your ram plus video ram for swap, rest for home
[10:05] <intelikey> "ram plus video ram for swap"  is this a lappy ?
[10:05] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: Hibernating is useful on desktops too, isnt it?
[10:05] <intelikey> well not very...
[10:06] <intelikey> can be used.  but not very usefull
[10:06] <kubuntu-power> damn im lost
[10:06] <Voker57> Hey ppl help!
[10:06] <kubuntu-power> do i have to do redimension to the xp one ?
[10:06] <bkudria> uh oh
[10:06] <MilhousePunkRock> kubuntu-power: Of course, since it now probably takes up the whole disc...
[10:06] <intelikey> Voker57 what do you want to do with the trashbin ?
[10:07] <kubuntu-power> ok
[10:07] <Voker57> intelikey: I wish to disable it
[10:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Voker57: That's possible
[10:07] <intelikey> right click on it ?
[10:07] <Voker57> nah
[10:07] <intelikey> or use kcontrol ?
[10:07] <intelikey> nah ?
[10:07] <Voker57> it displays folder props
[10:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Voker57: You can override the trahsbin with Shift+Delete
[10:08] <Voker57> MilhousePunkRock: thx
[10:08] <MilhousePunkRock> IIRC you can even disable it completely...
[10:09] <intelikey> you can make .trash a symlink to /dev/null too  :)
[10:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Or get rid of the confirmation for deleting something
[10:09] <intelikey> in konqueror configuration
[10:10] <intelikey> or kcontrol
[10:10] <intelikey> iirc
[10:10] <kubuntu-power> says ntfs active dimension 74,52 gb begging  0.03 mb end the xp one
[10:11] <kubuntu-power> beggins and ends whit 74.52 bg
[10:11] <kubuntu-power> dev 1
[10:11] <bkudria> when i plug in my zaurus (acting as a mass-storage device), kubuntu mounts 8 copies.  how do i fix it?
[10:12] <kubuntu-power> for dev to i got free and says 7.84 mb free start 74.52 gb end 74.53 gb
[10:12] <kubuntu-power> this dev 2 the free one
[10:12] <MilhousePunkRock> Voker57: Open konqueror and go to settings --> configure konqueror
[10:12] <MilhousePunkRock> On the first tab (Behaviour) it deals with the trash
[10:12] <kubuntu-power> did u understand every thing punk rock?
[10:13] <Voker57> MilhousePunkRock: ok
[10:13] <kubuntu-power> so ill do redimension on the xp one to start then guide me
[10:17] <MilhousePunkRock> kubuntu-power: The GPartEd live CD is the safest choice for you, really
[10:18] <kubuntu-power> where do i get that?
[10:18] <MilhousePunkRock> IIRC the partitioning tool in the Kubuntu setup wasnt really powerful...
[10:18] <MilhousePunkRock> kubuntu-power: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[10:18] <kubuntu-power> where u get this gp?
[10:18] <kubuntu-power> a ok
[10:18] <MilhousePunkRock> First google hit
[10:18] <MilhousePunkRock> !google
[10:18] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[10:19] <kubuntu-power> im new to linux and never done a dubble partion before just nead u tell me what to do punk
[10:19] <kubuntu-power> and i will do it fine im sure
[10:20] <kubuntu-power> so im on the xp partion now and will do ridimension
[10:20] <kubuntu-power> what i have to write there?
[10:20] <MilhousePunkRock> kubuntu-power: 1. you need to say my name completely to get my attention, try mil-tab
[10:21] <kubuntu-power> milhousepunkrock
[10:21] <MilhousePunkRock> 2. I told you, GPartEd is the safest choice... Do you have a broadband connection and a CD burner?
[10:21] <MilhousePunkRock> there you go, kubuntu-power
[10:21] <nobane> hey
[10:21] <MilhousePunkRock> This way, what you write appears in red here and I know I am adressed
[10:22] <kubuntu-power> im more lost whit that gp if u quide me im sure i can make it
[10:23] <kubuntu-power> so im on redimension now the xp partion i got new dimension 76308.71 and free space 7.84 all mb
[10:23] <kubuntu-power> what i do?
[10:23] <kubuntu-power> says here minimun redimension 2gb
[10:24] <kubuntu-power> o got it
[10:30] <intelikey> ha that warning in gparted....   "root permissions required,  sense gparted can be a weapon of mass distruction only root can run it. "   lol
[10:32] <intelikey> ok i've seen gparted now.    i still think it's the same app that the dapper live CD installer uses
[10:33] <unix_infidel> yea.
[10:33] <intelikey> i haven't see the edgy installer but bet it's the same
[10:34] <T3hWiz0rd> woot
[10:35] <T3hWiz0rd> I am finally on the car dealerships wireless network
[10:35] <T3hWiz0rd> hurray packet attacking
[10:35] <T3hWiz0rd> now to rape their t1 line with downloads, like an ethical person :-)
[10:36] <unix_infidel> or a smart person and setup a third party AP?
[10:36] <intelikey> hmm fat8 fat12 fat16 fat32  wasn't there another one ?
[10:36] <unix_infidel> vfat is basically fat32
[10:36] <unix_infidel> if that's what your looking for.
[10:37] <intelikey> unix_infidel mmm no.  it works for mounting 8-32
[10:37] <unix_infidel> i have no idea what your talking about.
[10:37] <unix_infidel> still on gparted?
[10:38] <intelikey> vfat mounts fat[8-32]    but wasn't there another M$ fs   and not ntfs
[10:38] <intelikey> what is msdos fs ?  is that fat12 ?
[10:39] <unix_infidel> yea
[10:39] <T3hWiz0rd> ms had another filesystem besides the fats?
[10:39] <unix_infidel> T3hWiz0rd: he was talking about another fat variation besides the ones listed above.
[10:39] <T3hWiz0rd> oh.
[10:40] <unix_infidel> fat12 was part of the original nt iirc.
[10:40] <T3hWiz0rd> I never liked FAT
[10:40] <T3hWiz0rd> both for its name... and other reasons...
[10:40] <intelikey> fat12 was the standard on floppy disks  3.5"  but i think 5.25" was fat8      not sure ?
[10:41] <unix_infidel> the better question, does it really matter anymore?
[10:41] <T3hWiz0rd> lol really.
[10:41] <intelikey> did it ever ?
[10:41] <T3hWiz0rd> for windows users, once.
[10:42] <unix_infidel> all that mattered was that i get 12 letters for the file name and another 3 for the extension.
[10:42] <unix_infidel> w00t.
[10:42] <intelikey> not really.   same then as now      bassicly  "who gives a ***** about the file system,  just make the mouse work"
[10:42] <T3hWiz0rd> my mouse stopped working on my windows computer the other day
[10:43] <T3hWiz0rd> so i couldn't even reboot it! it was t3h h0rrible.
[10:43] <llutz> intelikey: dosnames are 8.3
[10:43] <intelikey> llutz i know that  tell unix_infidel
[10:43] <llutz> ups,s r y
[10:43] <unix_infidel> what?
[10:43] <llutz> too early
[10:44] <intelikey> not 12.3 unix_infidel 8.3
[10:44] <unix_infidel> heh, :P
[10:45] <unix_infidel> roflcopt.lol
[10:45] <intelikey> hehhe   ROFLC~1.LOL
[10:46] <intelikey> there was no lower case either
[10:46] <eRen`Bis> Bonjour!
[10:46] <unix_infidel> also true.
[10:47] <matroblend> Does anyone know anything about pythoncard?
[10:49] <intelikey> ./bbsetup.sh: line 133: php: command not found
[10:49] <intelikey> Do you have PHP 4.2 or later installed on this system?
[10:49] <intelikey> [yes]  -> yes
[10:49] <intelikey> Why did you lie?
[10:49] <intelikey> [Enter to continue] 
[10:50] <intelikey> but it is installed
[10:50] <intelikey> ii  php5-common                   5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4                Common files for packages built from the php
[10:50] <intelikey> well that too ...  ii  php5                          5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4                server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag
[10:50] <robotgeek> lol
[10:52] <T3hWiz0rd> night night
[10:52] <intelikey> that kinda P's me off,  being called a lier by a script that i didn't even write.....
[10:53] <unix_infidel> venkat naidu?
[10:53] <robotgeek> who's that?
[10:58] <intelikey> does anyone know what provides/manages "alternatives" ?
[10:59] <robotgeek> intelikey: update-alternatives --help ?
[10:59] <kraut> moin
[11:00] <intelikey> but    origen `which update-alternatives`    drew a blank
[11:01] <robotgeek> intelikey: maybe dpkg, i am thinking
[11:01] <intelikey> i still don't know what provides/manages "alternatives"    i already knew where the script was that updated them.
[11:01] <intelikey> hmmm ok maybe.
[11:02] <fdoving> intelikey: you mean /etc/alternatives ?
[11:02] <intelikey> fdoving no   well yes and no.    i do away with /etc/alternatives/   but sometimes if i install something it remakes that dir
[11:03] <robotgeek> intelikey: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=%2Fusr%2Fsbin%2Fupdate-alternatives&searchmode=searchfilesanddirs&case=insensitive&version=edgy&arch=i386
[11:03] <intelikey> ever hear of tinyurl ?
[11:03] <robotgeek> intelikey: the usual approach, i think is to create a file manually
[11:03] <robotgeek> intelikey: yes :) i did not expect it so big!
[11:06] <guglielf> (n=name@ip) <--- is it possible to change this string, maybe in konversation?
[11:07] <fdoving> guglielf: you can change the 'name' part easily..
[11:08] <matroblend> How do you get identified to join the #python channel?
[11:08] <robotgeek> !register > matroblend
[11:08] <fdoving> guglielf: in konversation go to 'settings -> identities -> advanced [tab] , change the 'ident' part.
[11:10] <matroblend> How do I register? sorry I am new
[11:10] <_4str1> yop
[11:10] <fdoving> !register | matroblend
[11:10] <ubotu> matroblend: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:11] <matroblend> Got it ty reading now
[11:11] <lenscape> matroblend: you could start with: /msg nickserv help
[11:11] <intelikey> so basicly the only way to totally do away with alternatives is to uninstall dpkg......  i could do that....
[11:15] <RoKFiT> is anyone here?
[11:15] <intelikey> i added two lines to /usr/sbin/update-alternatives   head 2   #!/bin/sh    exit 0         but that doesn't keep packages from having /etc/alternatives/blah in them.
[11:15] <RoKFiT> intelikey: can you help me mount my hd?
[11:16] <intelikey> probably   what you got ?
[11:16] <guglielf> fdoving: tnx, and to get something like the string you have?
[11:16] <intelikey> !ntfs
[11:16] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:17] <RoKFiT> intelikey: it's a sata hd 300gb
[11:17] <RoKFiT> plugged in
[11:17] <RoKFiT> partitioned ext3
[11:17] <intelikey> RoKFiT sudo fdisk -l
[11:18] <intelikey> that should list it for you so you'll know the device address.
[11:18] <RoKFiT> yeah
[11:18] <RoKFiT> it's /dev/sdb1
[11:19] <RoKFiT> system hpfs/ntfs - does that mean ext3?
[11:19] <fdoving> guglielf: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[11:19] <intelikey> RoKFiT nope
[11:19] <intelikey> but that's the partition type
[11:20] <RoKFiT> could it still be ext3, because on fedora i remember partitioning it to ext3
[11:20] <intelikey> RoKFiT try sduo e2fsck /dev/sdb1
[11:20] <intelikey> that should tell you if it is
[11:20] <intelikey> errr
[11:20] <intelikey> RoKFiT try sudo e2fsck /dev/sdb1
[11:21] <matroblend> Lenscape: thx I am reading the faq, now so as I understand it I type my info in as /msg nickserv register <your-password> is nickserv my nick?
[11:21] <eilker> !phpnuke
[11:21] <RoKFiT> it's going
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phpnuke - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <intelikey> RoKFiT does that check the fs  or does it error out ?
[11:21] <matroblend>  /msg nickserv help
[11:21] <RoKFiT> checking fs
[11:21] <guglielf> fdoving: tnx again. that can be an interesting read for other irc related things i suppose
[11:21] <intelikey> good.
[11:22] <lenscape> matroblend: no. nickserv is a service. It knows you nick from the origin of the msg
[11:22] <matroblend> lenscape oh
[11:23] <RoKFiT> intelikey: so is it ext3?
[11:24] <intelikey> RoKFiT yessir.     sudo mkdir /media/sdb1 ;sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1                                                                                                    when ever that fsck finishes,   it should get you mounted.     the manual pages for all these command line apps are generally   man command    like man mount   or man e2fsck    or man fdisk.
[11:24] <RoKFiT> i do not need to edit fstab?
[11:25] <intelikey> if you want it to automount you do.  if you just want to mount it.   you just use the mount command.
[11:25] <eilker> hi people, i cant find a guide "how to setup dhcp server" (trying for wmvare)
[11:25] <xsacha> "Today saw the announcement by the Internet Explorer development team of a free, downloadable, pre-activated Windows XP SP2 image with Internet Explorer 6 installed."
[11:25] <RoKFiT> yeah how do i automount it?
[11:26] <RoKFiT> or what do i need to put in fstab
[11:26] <intelikey> RoKFiT now you have changed the whole question.   you asked "<RoKFiT> intelikey: can you help me mount my hd?"    you are going to have to learn to say what you mean.    and ask smart questions.
[11:27] <eilker> !dhcp > eilker
[11:27] <RoKFiT> sorry
[11:27] <RoKFiT> intelikey: can you help me auto mount my hd into fstab?
[11:28] <eilker> people should i install dhcp or dhcp3 ??? (trying for wmvare)
[11:28] <intelikey> RoKFiT put this line in your /etc/fstab      "/dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ext3 defaults,auto 0 0 "    without the quotation marks.
[11:29] <fdoving> eilker: dhcp3-server
[11:29] <intelikey> RoKFiT but do run the command i gave you.       sudo mkdir /media/sdb1 ;sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1
[11:30] <intelikey> RoKFiT after that it should mount at boot time.
[11:30] <RoKFiT> do the amount of spaces matter?
[11:30] <intelikey> nope
[11:30] <RoKFiT> how could you tell my hd was ext3 when it said ntfs/hd something something
[11:31] <llutz> eilker: looking for a simple dhcpd? use dnsmasq
[11:31] <intelikey> cause e2fsck checks only ext2 or ext3 file systems
[11:31] <RoKFiT> oh wait, i can't write to the file
[11:31] <intelikey> yes you can.   sudo nano /etc/fstab
[11:32] <RoKFiT> i edited as root
[11:32] <eilker> llutz: in fact i dont know what i am looking for, i installed vmware server , for its performance i need to install dhcp server (they say like this)
[11:32] <RoKFiT> wait that still didn't work
[11:32] <RoKFiT> yeah it did
[11:33] <eilker> llutz: may i use dnsmasq for it ?
[11:33] <RoKFiT> is kate better than kwrite?
[11:33] <intelikey> RoKFiT next question you will probably have is why you cant write to the drive.
[11:33] <RoKFiT> no, but why wouldn't i be able to?
[11:33] <llutz> eilker: don't know about vmware but dnsnasq is a simple dhcpd, easy to set up. should be ok
[11:33] <intelikey> RoKFiT better is subjective.   they are both good.
[11:34] <intelikey> RoKFiT permissions.
[11:34] <RoKFiT> oh shoot
[11:34] <RoKFiT> how do i set those?
[11:34] <intelikey> RoKFiT sudo chmod 777 /media/sdb1
[11:34] <RoKFiT> done.
[11:34] <RoKFiT> can i reboot to test it?
[11:35] <fragrag> Hello, I made a partition specially made to share between my Windows and Linux installation. But I get an error saying mount: can't find /dev/hdb5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:35] <intelikey> that should give you full access to the disk.   or at least it's root directory.    (seeing that i don't know what's on it)
[11:35] <intelikey> RoKFiT why reboot ?
[11:35] <intelikey> it's mounted.
[11:35] <RoKFiT> oh cool.
[11:36] <RoKFiT> well thanks
[11:36] <intelikey> RoKFiT you can do     df -h    to see where it's mounted and the spaces specs.
[11:36] <momal> looking for a program similar to what nero vision did on windows... Whats the best one for linux ?
[11:37] <intelikey> momal i though nero had a linux port too
[11:37] <RoKFiT> .    /dev/sdb1
[11:37] <intelikey> that's the device.
[11:37] <intelikey> the other end is where it's mounted
[11:38] <momal> intelikey: Thats only for burning... nero vision is a program that I can just drag in video files set up chapters and set up a menu and it encodes it all into dvd format and ready to burn
[11:38] <RoKFiT> yes thank you so much for the help
[11:38] <intelikey> RoKFiT np
[11:38] <RoKFiT> i'm having a hard time finding frostwire in repos
[11:38] <intelikey> momal outa my league.  i'm still playing with floppy disks
[11:39] <momal> haha
[11:39] <intelikey> !frostwire
[11:39] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:39] <intelikey> RoKFiT follow that url ^
[11:40] <fragrag> Hello, I made a partition specially made to share between my Windows and Linux installation. But I get an error saying mount: can't find /dev/hdb5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:40] <intelikey> actually i think i have a broken dvd writer here some place.......
[11:41] <intelikey> fragrag from what command ?
[11:41] <fragrag> I'm just trying to open the partition, I've probably skipped a step
[11:41] <intelikey> just trying to open it how   where ?
[11:42] <fragrag> Basically I partitioned a piece of my harddrive to FAT32 so I can share between Windows and Linux.
[11:42] <fragrag> With Konqueror
[11:42] <RoKFiT> i can't change the color of konsole, how come?
[11:42] <RoKFiT> fixed
[11:42] <intelikey> RoKFiT schema
[11:43] <intelikey> fragrag ok you are in konqureor and where in the file system are you ?
[11:44] <fragrag> I'm in system:/media/, and if I click on the partiton and getting the error, I'm in 'system:/media/hdb5'
[11:44] <intelikey> did you try right click mount ?
[11:44] <intelikey> that's a guess....
[11:45] <fragrag> Gives me 'mount: can't find /dev/hdb5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab'
[11:45] <intelikey> hmmm well lets fix rather than trying to find out why it's the way it is.
[11:46] <fragrag> What do I do then?
[11:46] <filip_> I cant manage to install a Java runtime program.. (a program to play Java?) anyone who can help me?
[11:47] <intelikey> fragrag sudo nano /etc/fstab   add   "/dev/hda5 /media/hda5 vfat auto,dmask=000,fmask=111 0 0 "  without the quotes   save and exit.
[11:47] <intelikey> !java
[11:47] <fragrag> Do I type that in Konsole?
[11:47] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:48] <intelikey> yes sudo nano /etc/fstab
[11:48] <intelikey> in konsole
[11:48] <RoKFiT> i like it
[11:48] <filip_> !multiverse
[11:48] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:48] <RoKFiT> intelikey: so do you just hang out in here and help everyone?
[11:48] <RoKFiT> or are you one of those bots?
[11:48] <fragrag> He's real
[11:48] <intelikey> and inside of nano    "/dev/hda5 /media/hda5 vfat auto,dmask=000,fmask=111 0 0 "
[11:49] <RoKFiT> oh
[11:49] <fragrag> Bots are rather more, automated
[11:49] <fragrag> So alot of thanks to everyone on this channel :)
[11:49] <dreameen> hey chaps
[11:50] <dreameen> i dont like the new kubuntu power manager in Edgy, how can i get the old one from Breezy?
[11:50] <intelikey> fragrag that's openion more than fact.  you have never seen nor heard me.  you have not felt a pulse nor checked a tempiture...    am i "real"
[11:50] <RoKFiT> dude kubuntu is where it's AT!
[11:50] <fragrag> O_O :O
[11:50] <RoKFiT> seriously
[11:50] <intelikey> ;/
[11:50] <RoKFiT> it's got flow
[11:50] <fragrag> By the way, can you tell me again what to do? I didn't completely understand it
[11:50] <lenscape> RoKFiT: not until they stop messing with KDE, it ain't
[11:51] <RoKFiT> true
[11:51] <dreameen> the new power manager sux hard.
[11:51] <intelikey> the page up key is nice for that fragrag
[11:51] <fragrag> Ooh woops :)
[11:51] <momal> Looking for a good program like "Nero Vision" but for linux... Anyone know of one ?
[11:51] <lenscape> momal: what does it do?
[11:52] <fragrag> And then I just save it, right?
[11:52] <momal> Drag video in sorts into chapters then i set up a menu and it slams it all into dvd format
[11:52] <RoKFiT> that frostwire install looked lengthy
[11:52] <momal> hmm.. is that called dvd authoring ?
[11:52] <intelikey> momal if you haven't noticed yet those of us that have to ask that, usually don't have the answer either...
[11:52] <lenscape> I'm sure they exist for Linux
[11:53] <momal> lozl
[11:53] <dreameen> how can u introduce sth as intrusive and not configurable as the new power saving manager in Edgy?
[11:53] <momal> yea there are 2 I have but one doesn't have menu support and the other one takes way to long to encode :(
[11:53] <RoKFiT> yes and now to install my video card drivers
[11:54] <RoKFiT> i made a post on the website
[11:54] <RoKFiT> but they keep listing as nv
[11:54] <dreameen> it keeps my CPU speed at 800MhZ constant and it's a 2ghz processor!
[11:54] <intelikey> !nv | RoKFiT
[11:54] <ubotu> RoKFiT: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:54] <fragrag> intelikey: How do I save and exit? On the bottom it says ^X but what do I exactly do?
[11:54] <intelikey> ^ is the control key
[11:54] <intelikey> ctrl X
[11:54] <RoKFiT> intelikey: what can i do?
[11:55] <RoKFiT> i've read the website
[11:55] <RoKFiT> also links from this chat aren't opening in firefox
[11:55] <fragrag> oh, alright :)
[11:55] <fragrag> RoKFiT: I'm gussing Firefox isn't your default browser
[11:55] <dreameen> rubbish i say..
[11:55] <dreameen> farewell
[11:55] <RoKFiT> i put in firefox as default
[11:55] <RoKFiT> "firefox" i set to default
[11:56] <eilker> what is inet addr? is it subnet adress ?
[11:56] <RoKFiT> i set default to "firefox" i mean
[11:56] <intelikey> RoKFiT did you install firefox ?
[11:56] <fragrag> Ok intelikey, I did that
[11:57] <RoKFiT> lol, yeah
[11:57] <RoKFiT> it's open now
[11:57] <intelikey> fragrag that oughta do it.
[11:58] <intelikey> fragrag see if she'll mount now
[11:58] <fragrag> Weird, didn't do it... Wait, I think you made a mistake.. Isn't it suppose to be hdb5 instead of hda5?
[11:58] <intelikey> did i or you make that ?
[11:59] <fragrag> You gave me the line /dev/hda5 /media/hda5 vfat auto,dmask=000,fmask=111 0 0
[11:59] <intelikey> fragrag yeah looks like i misread you on the device.  change both hda5  to hdb5    and try it.
[11:59] <fragrag> Ok
[11:59] <RoKFiT> hello, konversation links not opening in firefox
[11:59] <RoKFiT> or any browser for that matter
[12:00] <intelikey> fragrag ok now you know i'm real.... :)
[12:00] <fragrag> I knew you were real, it was RoKFiT that was doubting :)
[12:00] <intelikey> he still is.
[12:00] <RoKFiT> well you guys have ben in here for so long
[12:00] <RoKFiT> i wasn't sure
[12:00] <RoKFiT> my system is so near perfect
[12:01] <RoKFiT> i love kubuntu
[12:01] <intelikey> RoKFiT so copy the link and paste it in the browser until someone that can help you comes in
[12:01] <lenscape> is it me or are two monitors just not enough any more?
[12:02] <intelikey> just right click highlight   and then click the browser address box  clear it and dubble click (or middle if you have three)
[12:02] <fragrag> It says I have to be in root to mount it..
[12:02] <intelikey> lenscape why use a monitor.   doesn't the printer work ?
[12:02] <RoKFiT> found it
[12:02] <intelikey> fragrag ok   sudo mount -a
[12:03] <RoKFiT> but dang, that ntfs put a lot of pops in my music when i copied it all off the disk
[12:03] <RoKFiT> that sucks!
[12:03] <RoKFiT> ntfs driver*
[12:03] <RoKFiT> that seriously needs to get fixed
[12:03] <fragrag> Oh that SoB... /media/hdb5 does not exist
[12:04] <intelikey> probably the sound rendering rather than the disk translation
[12:04] <intelikey> fragrag lol
[12:04] <RoKFiT> intelikey: what sound rendering
[12:04] <RoKFiT> what can i fix?
[12:05] <RoKFiT> or change?
[12:05] <intelikey> fragrag did i misread you or did i ?    so make the dir.     sudo mkdir /media/hdb5
[12:05] <RoKFiT> the amarok engine is xine engine
[12:05] <RoKFiT> on autodetect
[12:05] <RoKFiT> i had this problem in fedora
[12:06] <RoKFiT> any ideas intelikey?
[12:06] <fragrag> Voila!
[12:06] <fragrag> Thanks alot :D
[12:06] <intelikey> RoKFiT my idea is to install sox and play all sound files from the console   but that's probably not acceptable to you.
[12:06] <fragrag> Can Linux read NTFS too?
[12:07] <intelikey> it can
[12:07] <RoKFiT> lol, i don't really want to do that
[12:07] <intelikey> it can write to ntfs but there are warnings that go with that.
[12:07] <RoKFiT> any other options or am i stuck with popping music?
[12:07] <intelikey> RoKFiT idk i'm not much on the gui
[12:08] <RoKFiT> everyone says that
[12:08] <intelikey> don't use one much.
[12:08] <fragrag> Really?.. Alright, I have a feeling, that what I did was rather obsolete.. Or not, I still need to be able to put stuff onto my windows installation so having a third partition as a middleman shouldn't be obsolete
[12:08] <RoKFiT> what do you use?
[12:08] <RoKFiT> cli
[12:08] <intelikey> !cli
[12:08] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:08] <intelikey> RoKFiT yes
[12:08] <intelikey> fragrag true that.
[12:09] <RoKFiT> so how do i fix this?
[12:09] <intelikey> i'm finished in 20 minutes.   better make my rounds again.
[12:09] <RoKFiT> there is no solution?
[12:09] <fragrag> Alright, mounting the windows installation shouldn't harm my windows installation right?
[12:09] <Ace2016> hi all
[12:10] <Ace2016> i type "kwrrite" in Alt+f2 it launches opera and tries to go to that address, i just want it to tell me that i there is no such command,
[12:10] <fragrag> Hello ace
[12:10] <Ace2016> How do i change that?
[12:10] <Ace2016> hi fragrag
[12:10] <intelikey> fragrag one could always mount it ro to be safe
[12:10] <fragrag> ro?
[12:10] <Ace2016> read only
[12:10] <fragrag> I'm going on a limb here, but check your opera settings?
[12:11] <fragrag> How do I do that?
[12:11] <fragrag> And is this correct? "/dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     ntfs    auto,dmask=000,fmask=111 0 0"
[12:11] <intelikey> mount /dev/devicenode /media/mountpoint -o ro,umask=000
[12:12] <RoKFiT> how do i fix my audio?
[12:12] <intelikey> fragrag sudo that ^
[12:12] <intelikey> inturpret the devicenode and mountpoint
[12:12] <intelikey> later.
[12:12] <fragrag> I was ahead of you :D
[12:12] <ebees> Hi all. I'm wondering if I can get a bit of advice. I'm running Kubuntu 6.06. I have a 200G HDD and have added a second HDD of 160G. I ran fdisk and deleted all the existing partitions. I then created on partition and wrote the table and exited. I've added the hdd to fstab as /video (for my home vid files that I'm working on) but I the drive is reading as only 89mb! I'm at a bit of loss.
[12:13] <fragrag> Should there be a ntfs in between?
[12:13] <Ace2016> you messed up somewhere?
[12:13] <Ace2016> have a look in qtparted?
[12:13] <intelikey> fragrag in the fstab  your post    change  auto,dmask=000,fmask=111    to   auto,ro,dmask=000,fmask=111
[12:13] <RoKFiT> i just increased sound buffer
[12:13] <RoKFiT> will that fix it?
[12:14] <ebees> Hi Ace. I did and it shows the drive as 149G
[12:14] <fragrag> possibly
[12:14] <Bubba_Gump> how to unrar files using ark?
[12:15] <Ace2016> ebees: where did it say it was 89mb? was it kwikdisk?
[12:15] <RoKFiT> still popping
[12:15] <fragrag> Right, that worked, bloody awesome :D
[12:15] <ebees> No sorry. When I open it in konqueror
[12:15] <ebees> after rebooting
[12:16] <Ace2016> i know, try writing 90mb to it, i wonder what would happen
[12:16] <ebees> just be a minute...putting the baby to bed (now I can use two hands to type :)) back in a mo
[12:16] <Bubba_Gump> awwww...
[12:16] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[12:16] <outime> u
[12:16] <fragrag> :)
[12:16] <outime> Oops :-P
[12:17] <ebees> back
[12:17] <ebees> I tried to write a larger file and it informed me the drive was full! Weird
[12:18] <Ace2016> oh
[12:18] <Ace2016> have you made an 89mb partition at all? say for /boot ?
[12:18] <ebees> If I run df -h
[12:18] <ebees> I get:
[12:19] <ebees> dev/hdb1              89M   27M   57M  33% /video
[12:19] <Bubba_Gump> sorted my ark unrar problem :)
[12:20] <ebees> Hmmmmmmm. just noted in qtparted that it shows the drive label as /boot
[12:20] <ebees> ???
[12:21] <ebees> I *think* I've made an error, but I'm buggered if I know how... or what
[12:21] <Ace2016> oh
[12:22] <Ace2016> where is konqueror saying its 89mb?
[12:22] <RoKFiT> does anyone have a solution?
[12:22] <Ace2016> maybe you've mounted your boot partition as /video  ?
[12:22] <ebees> When I right click on the directory /...........fuck
[12:24] <ebees> sorry.. I had deleted some files from /video and when you wrote that I went back immediately and restored them!!!!!!!!!
[12:24] <ebees> THANKS (in case what you say is true :))
[12:24] <intelikey> which were ?
[12:25] <intelikey> ebees file names ?
[12:25] <ebees> sheeeeesh. Just compared the previously deleted files with my /boot menu... different kernel versions etc... [wipes brow] 
[12:25] <ebees> intelikey... sorry, I'm not sure what you mean?
[12:25] <intelikey> trying to figure out if you should be worried
[12:25] <ebees> :) ta
[12:26] <intelikey> ebees do this   sudo fdisk -l
[12:26] <ebees> okay
[12:26] <intelikey> that should show you a list of all your partitions
[12:26] <ebees> does, and I get:
[12:26] <ebees> dev/hdb1               1       19457   156288321   83  Linux
[12:26] <ebees> for the second HDD
[12:27] <ebees> I'm wondering if my fstab entry is incorrect... would that affect that?
[12:27] <ebees> or rather cause this?
[12:27] <intelikey> use the pastebin and lets see it
[12:27] <intelikey> !paste
[12:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:28] <intelikey> there's the url   6
[12:29] <ebees> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35071/
[12:29] <intelikey> ebees you can also do    mount    to see stats on everything mounted
[12:29] <ebees> what a great idea - pastebin
[12:29] <intelikey> errr actually everything recorded in mtab
[12:29] <nacho86> iep
[12:29] <ebees> mount gives me:
[12:30] <eilker> anyone using dhcp server ???
[12:30] <intelikey> ebees that one was not your fstab........
[12:30] <ebees> ooops. Sorry. I'll post that too.
[12:31] <ebees> URL for mount info is:
[12:31] <ebees> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35072/
[12:32] <ebees> fstab is here:
[12:32] <ebees> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35073/
[12:33] <intelikey> ok if you didn't turncate the fstab then you do have a problem there.  it's short
[12:33] <ebees> No, the info is correct
[12:34] <intelikey> line 9  should read   /dev/hdb1       /video          ext3    defaults 0 0
[12:34] <ebees> So I've incorrectly added the info and need to add something else (this is the first time I've done this, to tell the truth)
[12:34] <ebees> okay
[12:34] <intelikey> but that's not all that's going on here.
[12:34] <intelikey> show me what   ls -l /dev/hdb1      says
[12:34] <ebees> okay
[12:35] <ebees> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 3, 65 2006-12-02 21:58 /dev/hdb1
[12:35] <intelikey> hmmm device is correct.
[12:37] <intelikey> ebees idk   i've never see a partition act that way before.
[12:37] <intelikey> ebees df -h | grep hdb
[12:37] <ebees> dev/hdb1              89M   27M   57M  33% /video
[12:38] <intelikey> that's really wierd....
[12:38] <unix_infidel> anyone happen to know of a cli pdf viewer?
[12:38] <intelikey> oh
[12:38] <intelikey> did you fofget to format it after you changed it ?
[12:39] <intelikey> ebees anything on that disk you need to keep ?
[12:39] <ebees> I thought I did....................maybe.... I was holding 3 of 3 at the time
[12:39] <ebees> Nah, nothing on the disk I need
[12:39] <RoKFiT> video driver is a go!
[12:39] <ebees> 1 and 2 of 3 where already asleep :)
[12:39] <RoKFiT> audio, please help
[12:39] <RoKFiT> is there an audio page?
[12:39] <RoKFiT> audio driver page?
[12:40] <intelikey> ebees umount /dev/hdb* && mke2fs -jc /dev/hdb1
[12:40] <intelikey> err sudo them ^
[12:40] <ebees> okay, so run:
[12:40] <intelikey> ebees sudo umount /dev/hdb* && sudo mke2fs -jc /dev/hdb1
[12:40] <ebees> sudo okay
[12:41] <intelikey> and that should take a little while for it to -c the whole disk.
[12:41] <ebees> oh, says /dev/hdb: not mounted
[12:41] <ebees> so just run it without umount?
[12:41] <intelikey> no.
[12:41] <Fortis> is kubuntu now exactly the same as ubuntu, except the DE?
[12:41] <ebees> k
[12:42] <lenscape> does Beagle work on Kubuntu?
[12:42] <intelikey> ebees try this insted. sudo umount /dev/hdb1 ;sudo mke2fs -jc /dev/hdb1
[12:42] <intelikey> should say hdb1 not mounted this time....
[12:42] <ebees> k
[12:42] <ebees> nope... it's writing it
[12:43] <Ace2016> lenscape: kde has kerry, a front end to beagle
[12:43] <ebees> sorry... read too quickly
[12:43] <ebees> says:
[12:43] <intelikey> not mounted and also doing the format
[12:43] <ebees> yup
[12:44] <intelikey> yeah
[12:44] <lenscape> Ace2016: I'll see if it works...
[12:44] <intelikey> ebees that will take a little while
[12:44] <ebees> this is weird experience... I haven't done this before, but thought I knew what I was doing
[12:44] <ebees> no probs. It's still on checking bad block
[12:44] <lenscape> that's picking up a few dependencies...
[12:45] <intelikey> when it finishes      sudo mount /dev/hdb1 ;df -h                  and good luck with it.   i reall gotta go.
[12:45] <ebees> Thanks very much. Your help has been greatly appreciated.
[12:45] <ebees>  :))
[12:45] <intelikey> ebees ^  np.
[12:51] <sergo> Hello
[12:51] <Ace2016> sergo: hi
[12:59] <guiden> I have a rar package, how do I unrar it?
[01:00] <sc0tt> ask it to undress
[01:00] <sc0tt> :D
[01:05] <apokryphos> !rar
[01:05] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[01:05] <apokryphos> guiden: basically, install unrar-free (or unrar-nonfree, from multiverse) and then you can use ark, kde's file compression manager, to unpack it
[01:07] <apokryphos> guiden: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[01:08] <Bubba_Gump> sc0tt: heh
[01:09] <Bubba_Gump> what's the difference between free and non-free ?
[01:09] <Bubba_Gump> !free
[01:09] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[01:10] <Lantius> !rar
[01:11] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[01:11] <Lantius> wow
[01:22] <RoKFiT> are there any kde apps like jpilot?
[01:22] <RoKFiT> not kontact
[01:23] <RoKFiT> ?
[01:27] <swami> i dunno
[01:40] <RoKFiT> does anyone know?
[01:44] <heinkel_111> help! what is the name of the desktop search assitand tool? kerry beagle or something?
[01:45] <Hobbsee> beagle?
[01:48] <heinkel_111> hmm why can't i find it? wasnt it installed default in kubntu 6.10?
[01:48] <gnomefreak> kerry runs beagle doesnt it?
[01:48] <gnomefreak> or it just uses mono like beagle does
[01:48] <heinkel_111> not in kubuntu 6.10 distribution?
[01:52] <ubunturos_> anyone installed Firefox using apt-get in Kubuntu 6.06
[01:52] <ubunturos_> ?
[01:55] <Xenol> plz can anyon help me how to install xgl on kubuntu 6.10?
[01:55] <vinicri> hi folks. any idea how i can automatically put in line a list of links from rappidshare?
[01:56] <vinicri> ?
[02:01] <vinicri>  any idea how can I automatically download a list of links from rappidshare? any known script?
[02:01] <Xenol> <
[02:01] <Xenol> ?
[02:01] <Xenol> XGL?
[02:02] <binary2k2> !xgl | Xenol
[02:02] <ubotu> Xenol: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:06] <dreameen> is there a skin i can use to make linux look like windows xp??
[02:11] <RawSewage> I have 5 gb of free space on one of my Kubuntu drives.  How do I make a partition out of that so I can install Windows XP
[02:11] <binary2k2> RawSewage: is 5GB enough space for XP?
[02:11] <RawSewage> binary2k2, yes
[02:11] <red22> i've followed all steps in 4 "guides" on installing the drivers for my radeon x1950pro and nothing works.. system hangs on startup.  anyone know if/where reliable instructions can be found?
[02:12] <RawSewage> binary2k2, I only need it so I can play Second Life
[02:12] <red22> also, i tried everything at ati.com, and the card is working under winxp fine
[02:12] <RawSewage> In fact, I wont use more than 4 gb for the partition
[02:13] <binary2k2> RawSewage: I'd use the gparted live cd to resize the linux partition and add another parririon
[02:13] <RawSewage> I dont have any more CDs to burn
[02:13] <gsuveg> re
[02:13] <binary2k2> RawSewage: do you have a k/ubuntu (desktop) liveCD
[02:13] <red22> raw: use qparted, it's on the (at least edgy) cd
[02:14] <RawSewage> this is on a diff hard drive than the one Im on now
[02:14] <RawSewage> red22, ok, I'll try that
[02:14] <gsuveg> for me the knetworkmanager dont connect auto to my wpa network. it is possible to setup?
[02:14] <red22> it's easy and mostly graphical
[02:14] <RawSewage> good
[02:14] <red22> i tried resizing a partition and didn't lost anything
[02:14] <red22> *lose
[02:15] <RawSewage> are you sure thats the name
[02:16] <binary2k2> RawSewage: qparted ist he QT (KDE) version gparted is the GTK (gnome) version, both do the same thing tho
[02:16] <RawSewage> binary2k2, I dont see that anywhere
[02:16] <red22> anyone know where i can find reliable info on how to install drivers for ati x1950pro ?
[02:17] <red22> raw: see if you have plain old "parted", not graphical though
[02:17] <binary2k2> RawSewage: it's on the liveCD, you can also install it with Adept/apt-get
[02:17] <RawSewage> ok
[02:17] <RawSewage> it cant find that package
[02:18] <red22> try gparted, that one should work
[02:18] <micke_e> yesterday all the black in pictures on my system got messed up. Instead of black, it's a mess of different dark colors. Anyone know what the problem is? It's the same in opera, konqueror and gqview, but black text looks all right
[02:18] <binary2k2> RawSewage: ahh, its qtparted
[02:18] <RawSewage> ok
[02:18] <binary2k2> missed out the  "t" :p
[02:18] <red22> ah yeah
[02:19] <red22> anyone have any luck with an ati x1950 pro or similar pls?
[02:19] <micke_e> or if anyone at least have any idea on what to google for, I cant find anything
[02:19] <red22> as soon as i walked out of the store i knew i should have gone nvidia..
[02:20] <binary2k2> red22: have you tried the ubuntu help page for installing binary drivers?
[02:20] <red22> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28driver%29%7C%28binary%29%7C%28howto%29#head-123c48c83c49553bdd4260ff972ffacdff04580e < this one?
[02:20] <red22> o wait not that one
[02:21] <red22> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28driver%29%7C%28binary%29%7C%28howto%29
[02:21] <red22> that one?
[02:21] <binary2k2> yeah, that one
[02:22] <red22> was no help. machine just freezes at startup
[02:22] <red22> but, i did learn a lot of OTHER things about linux in the process, so i guess not all was lost
[02:23] <binary2k2> I only have intergrated intel graphics, so can't help with ati
[02:23] <binary2k2> tho, istalling beryl was easy
[02:23] <red22> ridiculous. somebody must be paying companies to keep linux video drivers crappy.
[02:23] <FlightOfStairs> hello
[02:23] <red22> beryl? is that another distro?
[02:24] <FlightOfStairs> it's a eye candy thing
[02:24] <binary2k2> beryl is a fork of compiz (the 3D cube thing :P )
[02:24] <red22> ah i'm not there yet. i'm still doing software aparently since all my windows flicker when i scroll
[02:24] <FlightOfStairs> what gfx card?
[02:25] <red22> x1950pro
[02:25] <RawSewage> so... using qtparted....  I select the drive I want to add a partition to
[02:25] <RawSewage> what do I do next.  Im afraid to click Format
[02:25] <RawSewage> I dont want to erase the whole thing
[02:25] <binary2k2> RawSewage: yes, then resize the linux partition to add 5GB free space
[02:25] <red22> arg. gotta seriously run and not get fired... if you know anything please post it and i'll check logs later ty bye be back later
[02:26] <RawSewage> binary2k2, I click Format?
[02:26] <FlightOfStairs> k
[02:26] <binary2k2> RawSewage: not before you resize the linux partition
[02:27] <RawSewage> binary2k2, Resize is grayed out
[02:27] <hyper_ch> anyone has an idea who I can play old dos games?
[02:27] <binary2k2> RawSewage: did you click on the linux partition first?
[02:28] <RawSewage> binary2k2, oh, I guess I resize the Extended
[02:28] <RawSewage> no
[02:28] <binary2k2> hyper_ch: have you looked at dosemu
[02:28] <RawSewage> ext3 wont let me resize
[02:29] <binary2k2> RawSewage: is the partition currently mounred? and are you running qtparted as root?
[02:29] <RawSewage> binary2k2, not mounted.  running as sudo
[02:29] <RawSewage> I'll do root
[02:29] <hyper_ch> binary2k2: not so far... I tried to run it in my win2k vmware station but that didn't work
[02:29] <binary2k2> sudo is root
[02:29] <RawSewage> damn
[02:29] <RawSewage> wait
[02:29] <RawSewage> maybe I wasnt running it as sudo
[02:30] <RawSewage> yeah, I was
[02:30] <RawSewage> and it's not mounted
[02:30] <RawSewage> oh
[02:30] <RawSewage> maybe I need to be logged onto that hard drive
[02:31] <RawSewage> I'll go log onto that drive
[02:31] <binary2k2> RawSewage: what do you mean "logged onto that hard drive"?
[02:31] <RawSewage> binary2k2, I have Kubuntu on this hard drive and the target hard drive
[02:31] <RawSewage> Im trying to resize the target HD
[02:31] <RawSewage> does that make sense
[02:32] <binary2k2> RawSewage: if you logon to the target one, then it will be mounted, and you won't be able to resize it
[02:32] <RawSewage> oh
[02:33] <giometz> hi all
[02:34] <giometz> is there any plugin to see quicktime videos in firefox?
[02:34] <FlightOfStairs> hello
[02:34] <FlightOfStairs> use the vlc one :)
[02:34] <giometz> thanks FlightOfStairs
[02:35] <giometz> does it work with streaming videos?
[02:35] <FlightOfStairs> sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-vlc
[02:35] <FlightOfStairs> think so
[02:36] <giometz> 'cause I've installed it now, but it displays "(no video)"
[02:37] <binary2k2> giometz: do you have the w32codecs package?
[02:38] <RoKFiT> can anyone help, i installed the nvidia-glx driver and now i'm seeing colors wrong
[02:38] <giometz> no binary2k2, I don't, should I install them?
[02:39] <binary2k2> giometz: yeah, it has the quicktime codec in it
[02:39] <giometz> apt says they're referred to another package but it doesn't tell me which one
[02:39] <binary2k2> giometz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#w32codecs
[02:39] <giometz> thanks
[02:40] <FlightOfStairs> RoKFiT: try nvidia-settings?
[02:44] <michaelpo> hi... i'm trying to view youtube.... it require flash? do i install from downloading from adobe? or do i use adept? i have downloaded from adobe, it ask me to install gsfonts and gsfonts-x11. how? it ask me for installation path of konqueror? where is it?
[02:44] <larson9999> michaelpo, i'd install the flash 9 beta for linux.  i don't think that in the repos though
[02:45] <binary2k2> !flash9 | michaelpo
[02:45] <ubotu> michaelpo: You can download a Flash 9 installer here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/backports/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy).  If you use GDebi to install it, make sure you open its terminal window (to answer an installer question).
[02:46] <michael> hi
[02:46] <michael> nen deutscher hier der mir eben helfen kann?
[02:47] <HymnToLife> !de
[02:47] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:47] <michael> habe ein problem mir sitecom 54g+ usb wlan stick und verbindung zum router
[02:48] <HymnToLife> Sie brauchen ndiswrapper, ich denke
[02:48] <HymnToLife> aber bitte geh zum #ubuntu-de
[02:48] <HymnToLife> hier sprechen Sie nur Englisch
[03:07] <ubunturos_> help with firefox 2.0?
[03:08] <HymnToLife> !ask
[03:08] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:09] <ubunturos_> ubotu: ah, I have untarred a firefox 2.0 package in /opt directory
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ah, I have untarred a firefox 2.0 package in /opt directory - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <HymnToLife> !ff2.0
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ff2.0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <ubunturos_> HymnToLife: and it fails to exectue because
[03:10] <HymnToLife> libstdc++5 not found ?
[03:10] <ubunturos_> there's a file missing called libgtk2.0-x11
[03:10] <HymnToLife> oh yeah
[03:10] <ubunturos_> libstdc++5 is installed
[03:10] <ubunturos_> how do I get libgtk using apt-get?
[03:10] <HymnToLife> a simple way to get all the dependencies
[03:10] <ubunturos_> libgtk2.0-x11-so.0 file
[03:10] <ubunturos_> HymnToLife: is?
[03:10] <HymnToLife> is to install the firefox from the repos
[03:11] <HymnToLife> with apt-get install firefox
[03:11] <ubunturos_> HymnToLife: I tried that
[03:11] <ubunturos_> HymnToLife: but it says there's no such package
[03:11] <ubunturos_> and I am using Kubutnu, so does that matter?
[03:11] <HymnToLife> no
[03:11] <HymnToLife> Dapper or Edgy ?
[03:11] <ubunturos_> Dapper
[03:12] <HymnToLife> the package 'firefox' definitely is in the repos
[03:12] <HymnToLife> check your sources.list
[03:12] <ubunturos_> HymnToLife: any specific repo required
[03:12] <ubunturos_> ?
[03:13] <HymnToLife> nope, should be in main
[03:13] <HymnToLife> since it's in the default Ubuntu install
[03:13] <ubunturos_> HymnToLife: umm
[03:13] <HymnToLife> please pastebin your sources.list
[03:13] <larson999> mozilla-firefox i think it's called
[03:14] <HymnToLife> nope, firefox
[03:14] <HymnToLife> just checked on packages.ubuntu.com
[03:14] <klerfayt> how does this "hardware database" get a unique ID?
[03:14] <ubunturos_> http://pastebin.ca/264275
[03:14] <larson999> so much for my memory.
[03:14] <HymnToLife> well, moeilla-firefox exists too, it was une in pre-Dapper
[03:14] <HymnToLife> but now it's just a dummy for transition to 'firefox'
[03:15] <HymnToLife> hmm
[03:15] <HymnToLife> definitely should work
[03:15] <HymnToLife> try an apt-get update before
[03:19] <Bubba_Gump> how many years does kubuntu know?
[03:20] <carlos_> hi
[03:20] <carlos_> can anyone tell me how to launch beryl at startup
[03:20] <carlos_> i've already installed it
[03:20] <carlos_> but i can't make it launch when i log in
[03:20] <carlos_> lol
[03:20] <davide> idem
[03:21] <noiesmo> carlos_, add beryl-manager to ~/.kde/Autostart
[03:22] <davide> and nothing more?
[03:22] <davide> nice!
[03:25] <soulrider> too abd the breyl website completely died
[03:25] <soulrider> oh, its back!
[03:28] <hyper_ch> how can I create an image from a bootable floppy that I then can put onto another floppy and it will still be bootable?
[03:30] <llutz> hyper_ch: dd if=/dev/fd0 of=image.img
[03:30] <llutz> hyper_ch: new floppy and: dd of=/dev/fd0 if=image.img
[03:31] <hyper_ch> llutz: hmm, friend of mine copied his bootdisk like that (althought with a .iso file extension) and sent it to me... I then tried to read the iso from vmware... no luck... changed the extension to .img still no luck...
[03:31] <llutz> hyper_ch: you can call that file like you want, names are nothin
[03:32] <hyper_ch> llutz but I wonder why vmware does not want to boot from it
[03:32] <llutz> ask vmware
[03:32] <hyper_ch> llutz: if the floppies are damaged, will dd output an error?
[03:33] <llutz> hyper_ch: yes it should. i create images like that since ages, it always workes
[03:33] <llutz> hyper_ch: you also can use "cat /dev/fd0 >image.file"
[03:34] <hyper_ch> llutz: I'll try creating the floppies here
[03:35] <nagyv> is there a way to run a program (I have a bash script that stops kaffeine and/or amarok) when someone calls me on skype?
[03:36] <klerfayt> this is my hardware id http://tinyurl.com/ygf5b8 - it shows odd info "couldn't detect laptop" - now what is different in "laptop" and "desktop" installation?
[03:40] <hyper_ch> llutz: thx .... it's working this way... I hope I still ahve enough floppies that are not damaged
[03:57] <dr0fnax> !xgl
[03:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:00] <nagyv> !laptop
[04:00] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[04:01] <ubunturos_> !ff2
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ff2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:01] <ubunturos_> !firefox
[04:01] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:06] <KillGore> join #ubuntu-classroom
[04:07] <ubunturos_> !kubuntu firefox
[04:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu firefox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <rue_> hallo
[04:11] <paola> hi
[04:11] <zorglu_> hi
[04:12] <paola> ciao cornelia
[04:12] <ubunturos_> paola:
[04:14] <soulrider> !beryl
[04:14] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:14] <cornelia> hi paola
[04:14] <cornelia> @quimby: go to kubuntu-de
[04:14] <quimby> go to kubuntu-de
[04:15] <salvam> hi cornelia
[04:15] <cornelia> hi salvam
[04:15] <cornelia> hi quimby!
[04:15] <cornelia> kubuntu-de
[04:16] <ubunturos_> anyone running firefox 2.0 in kubuntu?
[04:18] <zorglu_> cornelia: sorry you act like a bot, i have to check if there is a human behind, can you say 'bogpa' ?
[04:18] <Ayabara> I want to backup my image collection to a dvd. I want to protect this media, and I figure I could either encrypt the files before I burn them, or use some sort of packer with password protection
[04:18] <Ayabara> any advice?
[04:19] <ubuntu> 
[04:19] <Ayabara> I have tried making a 4GB encrypted file, but neither k3b, the default ubuntu burner or growisofs will burn it. seems 4GB is over some kind of limit
[04:19] <zorglu_> Ayabara: it depends on you, you could encrypt the whole dvd or file by fail
[04:20] <zorglu_> Ayabara: to encrypt the file via pgp is likely the most portable
[04:20] <Ayabara> zorglu_, "encrypt the whole dvd or file by fail". I didn't understand that sentence :-)
[04:21] <zorglu_> fail=file :)
[04:21] <Ayabara> ahh
[04:21] <Ayabara> damn
[04:21] <Ayabara> sorry
[04:21] <Ayabara> though it was an application or something :-)
[04:21] <zorglu_> no need to be sorry, the mistake was mine :)
[04:22] <Ayabara> do you see any reason why I can't burn a 4GB file? is there a 2GB limit somewhere in the chain?
[04:24] <Ayabara> aha. iso doesn't support files bigger than 2gb.
[04:24] <zorglu_> really ?
[04:25] <zorglu_> so the dvd image are not iso ?
[04:25] <tenco> someone using kboincspy with edgy here?
[04:25] <zorglu_> i remember seeing dvd image with .iso larger than 2gbyte
[04:25] <zorglu_> Ayabara: im not a user of dvd burner tho :) i dont think i ever burnt oen
[04:26] <zorglu_> tenco: no, what is it ?
[04:26] <tenco> zorglu_: kde frontend to boinc
[04:26] <Ayabara> zorglu_, I tried k3b, but it said 4GB was too much, and tried to switch to udf format.
[04:26] <tenco> zorglu_: can't register with einstein@home
[04:26] <Ayabara> zorglu_, thanks for helping. football match now :-)
[04:26] <zorglu_> and what is boinc ? :)\
[04:26] <tenco> zorglu_: kboincspy simply hangs there and does nothing
[04:26] <zorglu_> Ayabara: ok :)
[04:27] <tenco> zorglu_: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/
[04:29] <zorglu_> tenco: hehe seems to be fun :)
[04:31] <tenco> zorglu_: tried old-fashioned manual registration on the website. works now :)
[04:31] <angasule> an iso can be larger than the disc it describes, there are CD iso images larger than 700MB that still fit in a 700MB CD
[04:32] <zorglu_> tenco: cool :)
[04:34] <adz21c> hey, I am running Edgy 6.10 amd64. When I first log in to KDE all my colours look like they are on a low setting, however soon as I run glxgears, everything looks normal till I reboot. Any ideas why this could be and how I could fix it?
[04:35] <angasule> adz21c: colours on a low setting? you mean the screen is dark?
[04:35] <adz21c> no, like it looks like i am run 256 colours or something
[04:36] <adz21c> but soon as i run glxgears it looks like i am on 24bit, as it should be
[04:38] <outime> I have one question... Anyone has some basic knowledge about making own distro derived of Kubuntu (dapper f.e.?)
[04:39] <zorglu_> outime: ask on #ubuntu-motu they have more experience on this
[04:39] <outime> Thanks zorglu_
[04:40] <soulrider> !beryl
[04:40] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:41] <ubunturos_> !libgtk2.0.0
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgtk2.0.0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <noelvis> hello
[04:46] <adz21c> hey, I am running Edgy 6.10 amd64. When I first log in to KDE all my colours look like they are on a low setting (like 256 colors to 16bit area), however soon as I run glxgears everything looks normal (ie 24 bit colors) till I reboot. Any ideas why this could be and how I could fix it?
[04:47] <noelvis> please direct me to a site where I can figure out how to install a xxx.tar.gz download (Kubuntu 6.10)
[04:48] <noelvis> ./configure and then make does not work
[04:48] <ubunturos_> noelvis: gunzip <namne>
[04:48] <ubunturos_> tar -xvf <name>
[04:49] <noelvis> thanks ubunturos
[04:50] <ubunturos_> noelvis: did it work?
[04:50] <ubunturos_> noelvis: or u already knew it?
[04:50] <jordi_> what's the package which provides java support for firefox?
[04:51] <HymnToLife> ubunturos_, tar xzvf filename.tgz     will do it in one command ;)
[04:51] <HymnToLife> !java | jordi_
[04:51] <ubotu> jordi_: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:51] <ubunturos_> jordi_:  aah, better to have JRE installed
[04:51] <noelvis> ubuntros: I'm a newbie, will try now
[04:51] <ubunturos_> HymnToLife: yes
[04:52] <ubunturos_> HymnToLife: how long does it take 2 install Ff2.0?
[04:52] <HymnToLife> 30 seconds
[04:52] <ubunturos_> HymnToLife: from the repos I have>?
[04:52] <ubunturos_> oh
[04:52] <HymnToLife> (not counting download time of course ;))
[04:54] <ubunturos_> HymnToLife: it was waiting for headers for a long time
[04:54] <ubunturos_> HymnToLife: but I closed it!
[04:54] <HymnToLife> connection problem then
[04:54] <HymnToLife> to get a clean sources.list, do this
[04:54] <HymnToLife> sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old
[04:54] <HymnToLife> wget http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666/plain
[04:55] <HymnToLife> woops, not there anymore, did they ourge the pastebin ?
[04:55] <HymnToLife> purge*
[04:59] <HymnToLife> ubunturos_, still there ?
[04:59] <ubunturos_> HymnToLife: yes
[05:00] <ubunturos_> HymnToLife: I want one simple way to get firefox running
[05:00] <HymnToLife> your problem comes from the repos you use, who are down
[05:00] <londo4> help help_+++= someone can look at myn automatix installation output? :http://pastebin.cross-lfs.org/386 and help me, please?
[05:00] <noelvis> I need detail instructions please - where can i find it (install *.tar.gz on 6.10)
[05:00] <HymnToLife> I have a clean Dapper sources.list here : http://fkraiem.free.fr/sources.list_dapper
[05:01] <HymnToLife> just wget it, cpy it instead of the old one and you should be fine
[05:01] <HymnToLife> noelvis, what are you trying to install ?
[05:03] <angasule> in /etc/X11/xorg.conf there is a line that read BusID           "PCI:0:5:0", can anyone tell me what it means? I mucked with it a bit and that got X back up, but I'd like to know why :) (changed it to 1:0:0)
[05:04] <llutz> angasule: it is the pci-id of your graphics adapter (lspci)
[05:04] <HymnToLife> angasule, that's the identifier of the PCI but your graphics card is on
[05:04] <noelvis> mc-4.6.1-pre1.tar.gz
[05:04] <HymnToLife> bus*
[05:05] <angasule> and why would it have been wrong? the wiki guide to installing the driver didn't mention this issue at all
[05:05] <llutz> angasule: do you have onboard-vga too?
[05:05] <HymnToLife> who knows... those things happen :p
[05:06] <tenco> why has the development of kat stopped?
[05:06] <easytiger>  /join #ubuntu-classroom
[05:07] <angasule> llutz: I don't think so, pretty sure I don't
[05:07] <llutz> angasule: konsole -> type "lspci" and check ;)
[05:07] <yehudit> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35089/
[05:07] <angasule> llutz: nothing there, no
[05:08] <ubunturos_> HymnToLife: your sources are taking a lot of tie
[05:08] <ubunturos_> time*
[05:08] <yehudit> help /var/lib/alsa empty isapnp sound detected ok but silent
[05:08] <yehudit> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35089/
[05:08] <HymnToLife> you're on dialup ?
[05:09] <ubunturos_> HymnToLife: no, broadbad
[05:09] <ubunturos_> band*
[05:09] <HymnToLife> hmm well
[05:10] <HymnToLife> it uses fr.archive.ubuntu.com, change it to something else if you want
[05:10] <HymnToLife> but is it actually downloading stuff ?
[05:10] <angasule> llutz: I just checked, this pc has no vga output in the back (other than the AGP card, obviously), plus it's easy to figure out that if I'm installing the nvidia driver, a 'lspci | grep -i nvidia' will get the correct pci numbery thingie
[05:11] <angasule> brb
[05:16] <ubunturos_> HymnToLife: no..it isn;t
[05:16] <HymnToLife> hmm
[05:16] <HymnToLife> could you pastebin what you see ?
[05:16] <ubunturos_> Hy
[05:17] <ubunturos_> HymnToLife: wait for sometime, I'll be back
[05:17] <ubunturos_> HymnToLife: I mean, I'll be back after sometime
[05:20] <noelvis> I will try those thanks
[05:20] <ubuntu> habe gerade ein bret vorm kopf: ich moechte die livecd mit 1024x800 und 85 hy starten. wie mache ich das
[05:20] <fragrag> !xmms
[05:20] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:20] <fragrag> !codecs
[05:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:22] <malvin> anybody here who knows or even owns a Thinkpad T30 ?
[05:24] <Dheeraj_k_> 2222222222
[05:27] <ubuntu> !cheatcode
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheatcode - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <ubuntu> wo finde ich eine uebersicht der cheatcodes
[05:34] <yehudit> !de
[05:34] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:34] <yehudit> ubuntu ;-)
[05:34] <yehudit> chg nick
[05:45] <knapp> After I install the Nvidia driver (9629) when I reboot the computer X server fails to start and gives this error message:"API mismatch: the Nvidia kernel module has the version 1.0-7184, but this X module has the version 1.0-9629." I can then reinstall the driver and X will start fine, but then when I reboot... same thing.
[05:45] <knapp> please oh please, someone help
[05:45] <knapp> I've had this problem for weeks
[05:46] <Ash-Fox> Anyone happen to know any how tos on getting ESD working under kubuntu?
[05:46] <angasule> knapp: my guess is you have to uninstall the old nvidia kernel module
[05:47] <knapp> angasule, how can I do this?
[05:48] <angasule> knapp: well, I'd simply delete the module and hope nothing else breaks, I don't know what the proper way is
[05:48] <kai_> Is there anyone in here familiar with movie formats?
[05:49] <kai_> is there any linux codec to play .wmv
[05:49] <fragrag> !wine
[05:49] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:50] <kai_> to use that don't I have to have a windows partition
[05:50] <kai_> I just want codec supprt
[05:50] <kai_> 1 codec at that
[05:51] <Digital_Pioneer> HELP ME! My Kubuntu fried. I will elaborate.
[05:51] <Digital_Pioneer> Very few commands work
[05:51] <Digital_Pioneer> i.e. 'aptitude' returns "Command not found"
[05:51] <Digital_Pioneer> 'make' "Command not found"
[05:52] <Digital_Pioneer> 'jam' "Command not found"
[05:52] <Digital_Pioneer> Etc.
[05:52] <Digital_Pioneer> It did a kernel panic on startup once, and then this.
[05:52] <Digital_Pioneer> (It did this before the kernel panic, so I rebooted. Got the panic, rebooted again, and got this. Now I'm booting into recovery mode.)
[05:53] <Digital_Pioneer> Also, /etc/init.d/kdm start and the like do nothing. No errors, no output whatsoever.
[05:53] <knapp> angasule, how can I remove it?
[05:53] <Digital_Pioneer> Groups: command not found
[05:54] <knapp> angasule, sorry, i didnt see the responce
[05:54] <Digital_Pioneer> Dircolors: command not found.
[05:54] <knapp> angasule, where is the module located? How can I find it?
[05:54] <angasule> knapp: :) someone will know better, I usually just tinker with it until it's fixed or broken so badly I have to reinstall
[05:54] <Digital_Pioneer> Is there ANY way I can fix this without reinstalling Kubuntu??? :'(
[05:55] <Ash-Fox> !esd
[05:55] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[05:55] <Ash-Fox> !alsa
[05:55] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[05:56] <angasule> knapp: I'm not sure, sorry :/
[05:56] <Ash-Fox> Yeah.. use ALSA where theres barely any documentation...
[05:56] <knapp> :(
[05:56] <fragrag> Cans omeone help me with installing IE? I have Winetools and Wine but everytime I try to install it I get a 'Installation has failed'
[05:56] <mikki> how do i install a program thats .rpm ?
[05:56] <Digital_Pioneer> fragrag: Look up "ies4lin"
[05:56] <leo__> is there a reason why kdevelop doesn't show up in the repo?
[05:57] <fragrag> Will that work alongside Wine?
[05:57] <Digital_Pioneer> fragrag: That uses Wine.
[05:57] <kai_> mikki: rpm -ivh 'file'
[05:57] <Digital_Pioneer> fragrag: I think it's embedded statically.
[05:57] <yehudit> \o
[05:57] <kai_> or if your upgrading rpm -Uvh 'file
[05:57] <yehudit> !jre
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <fragrag> Alright, thanks
[05:57] <Digital_Pioneer> fragrag: But have Wine installed and make sure you have cabextract installed.
[05:57] <yehudit> !java runtime
[05:57] <mikki> get command not found
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java runtime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <Digital_Pioneer> !java
[05:57] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:57] <yehudit> !java
[05:58] <Digital_Pioneer> yehudit: He likes me more. :)
[05:58] <fragrag> alright
[05:58] <ubuntu>   hello somebody speak spanish
[05:59] <mikki> kai_: command not found
[05:59] <Digital_Pioneer> NOW! Can anyone PLEASE help me here????
[05:59] <kai_> Oh yea duh
[05:59] <gtwy> Digital_Pioneer: what is wrong
[05:59] <Digital_Pioneer> !es | ubuntu
[05:59] <ubotu> ubuntu: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:59] <kai_> your ubunut
[05:59] <kai_> you have to a .deb
[05:59] <ubuntu> o
[05:59] <ubuntu> ok
[06:00] <Digital_Pioneer> gtwy: I explained it earlier. Basically, nothing does anything.
[06:00] <Digital_Pioneer> gtwy: I have no GUI, only console.
[06:00] <kai_> rpms will not work in ubuntu
[06:00] <Digital_Pioneer> gtwy: And console does nothing.
[06:00] <leo__> is kdevelop present in any kubuntu package repository?
[06:00] <kai_> find a .deb instead
[06:00] <mikki> i got kubuntu
[06:00] <yehudit> digital dd backup  your homedir and reinstall
[06:00] <Digital_Pioneer> gtwy: Only things I've found to work are cd and reboot.
[06:01] <leo__> or am i down to just compiling it from source?
[06:01] <Digital_Pioneer> yehudit: No other options?? :'((
[06:01] <yehudit> Digital_Pioneer: dd backup your homedir and reinstall
[06:01] <yehudit> that is a good option Digital_Pioneer
[06:01] <Digital_Pioneer> yehudit: And one I'd like to consider a last resort!
[06:01] <yehudit> a windowze option
[06:01] <yehudit> your choice
[06:01] <kai_> Im sayin k/Ubuntu uses .deb for packages
[06:02] <yehudit> noneed to format
[06:02] <yehudit> simply install same things
[06:02] <kai_> uses aptituted and search for the progrom, ots prolly in there
[06:02] <Digital_Pioneer> yehudit: My Kubuntu installer won't install w/o reformatting.
[06:03] <leo__> nevermind
[06:03] <yehudit>  so use alternate CD my friend Digital_Pioneer
[06:03] <yehudit> !alternate
[06:03] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[06:04] <Digital_Pioneer> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
[06:04] <ds_> #wine
[06:04] <yehudit> lots of mm up there\ !hmm Digital_Pioneer
[06:04] <yehudit> heard of alternate CD ?
[06:05] <Digital_Pioneer> yehudit: Nope.
[06:05] <yehudit> go try it ! have another PC to download it ?
[06:05] <airfoil> hi! i try to add package to my kubuntu but fail. I am using adept manager to add it.
[06:05] <Digital_Pioneer> Yeah, this stinking windoze laptop.
[06:05] <airfoil> please help
[06:05] <lexi_> hi @all. need help with update-initramfs. doesnt seem to work after update.
[06:05] <yehudit> use it to burn too
[06:06] <chupa-chups> hi all
[06:06] <Digital_Pioneer> airfoil: I don't like adept. I like aptitude much better.
[06:06] <yehudit> burner is a must hese days you know Digital_Pioneer
[06:06] <Digital_Pioneer> airfoil: You're trying to add a repository?
[06:06] <chupa-chups> i just have a q
[06:06] <Digital_Pioneer> yehudit: burner? This is a program, or hardware?
[06:06] <airfoil> digital : how to use aptitude?
[06:06] <Digital_Pioneer> yehudit: I have two CD burners, one which burns DVDs.
[06:06] <yehudit> hardware my friend
[06:06] <chupa-chups> is there anti virous foe kubuntu
[06:06] <yehudit> awesome Digital_Pioneer
[06:06] <Digital_Pioneer> airfoil: aptitude install <package>
[06:07] <chupa-chups> or it is very strong os that doesnt need it ??????????
[06:07] <airfoil> okay
[06:07] <Digital_Pioneer> airfoil: apt-cache search <packagedescription>
[06:07] <chupa-chups> ???????????????????????
[06:07] <yehudit> bbl
[06:07] <Digital_Pioneer> airfoil: And to add repositories, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:07] <bkudria> whenever i plug in my zaurus (min mass-storage device mode) it is mounted 8 times, ie, /media/ZAURUS, /media/ZAURUS-1, etc.  they are all the same!  how do i fix this?
[06:07] <chupa-chups> helloooooooooooo
[06:07] <chupa-chups> is there anti virous foe kubuntu
[06:07] <chupa-chups> or it is very strong os that doesnt need it ??????????
[06:08] <chupa-chups> ??????????????????
[06:08] <CVirus> OMFG
[06:08] <zorglu_> chupa-chups: too much ?? please stop
[06:08] <chupa-chups> ok
[06:08] <chupa-chups> sorry
[06:08] <airfoil> digital    : thanks
[06:08] <zorglu_> chupa-chups: there are very few virues on linux
[06:08] <chupa-chups> i just want quick answer
[06:08] <chupa-chups> ok
[06:08] <zorglu_> chupa-chups: ok quick 'no need for antivirus'
[06:09] <MenZa> virii.
[06:09] <chupa-chups> can win virouses infect linux
[06:09] <zorglu_> chupa-chups: no
[06:09] <bkudria> chupa-chups: unless you run a mail server, there are anti-virus tools to scan the mail for *windows* viruses
[06:09] <chupa-chups> thank u
[06:09] <airfoil> digital: please give me the repositories list
[06:09] <chupa-chups> another q
[06:09] <chupa-chups> what program = yahoo messenger
[06:10] <Digital_Pioneer> airfoil: Ooohh, that's big. ;)
[06:10] <gtwy> !repositories | airfoil
[06:10] <ubotu> airfoil: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:10] <zorglu_> !kopete | chupa-chups
[06:10] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 6825 kB, installed size 18932 kB
[06:10] <chupa-chups> i dont like it
[06:10] <gtwy> chupa-chups: check out gaim
[06:10] <zorglu_> !gaim
[06:10] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[06:10] <chupa-chups> i ask for another pro
[06:10] <Digital_Pioneer> airfoil: I have a highly customized sources.list.
[06:10] <michael> hi alle
[06:10] <ds_> Is there a good channel for Wine instruction?
[06:10] <michael> brauche mal bissel Hilfe beim wlan
[06:10] <zorglu_> ds_: #winehq
[06:11] <zorglu_> !de | michael
[06:11] <ubotu> michael: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:11] <chupa-chups>  ok thank u at all
[06:12] <airfoil> digital : when i do sudo aptitude xchm, i got this message
[06:12] <chupa-chups> hey can i ask the last one ???
[06:12] <chupa-chups> :)
[06:12] <airfoil> irfoil@laptop-kubuntu:~$ sudo aptitude xchm
[06:12] <airfoil> Password:
[06:12] <airfoil> Unknown command "xchm"
[06:12] <airfoil> aptitude 0.4.1
[06:12] <airfoil> Usage: aptitude [-S fname]  [-u|-i] 
[06:12] <airfoil>        aptitude [options]  <action> ...
[06:12] <airfoil>   Actions (if none is specified, aptitude will enter interactive mode):
[06:13] <chupa-chups>  what program ( not kaffeine ) can play clips .avi and asf
[06:13] <zorglu_> !mplayer
[06:13] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[06:13] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[06:13] <zorglu_> airfoil: "sudo apt-get install xchm" should do it
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[06:14] <airfoil> zorglu : i got this message.
[06:14] <airfoil> airfoil@laptop-kubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install xchm
[06:14] <airfoil> Reading package lists... Done
[06:14] <airfoil> Building dependency tree
[06:14] <airfoil> Reading state information... Done
[06:14] <airfoil> E: Couldn't find package xchm
[06:14] <zorglu_> !info xchm
[06:15] <ubotu> xchm: Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.9-3 (edgy), package size 237 kB, installed size 944 kB
[06:15] <airfoil> zorglu: it is not in my dvd distro
[06:15] <zorglu_> airfoil: you can get it from universe repository
[06:16] <airfoil> zorglu: help me to configure repository list
[06:16] <zorglu_> airfoil: btw the one i got , kchmviewer, is much nicer tahn xchm in my opinion
[06:16] <zorglu_> !reop
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <zorglu_> !repo
[06:16] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:17] <zorglu_> !info kchmviewer
[06:17] <ubotu> kchmviewer: CHM viewer for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 200 kB, installed size 624 kB
[06:17] <zorglu_> try "sudo apt-get install kchmviewer"
[06:19] <airfoil> zorglu: my problem now is i can't set the package to download from repository list
[06:20] <mundisko> hi
[06:20] <airfoil> zorglu: my default resipotory is already enable.
[06:21] <bkudria> whenever i plug in my zaurus (min mass-storage device mode) it is mounted 8 times, ie, /media/ZAURUS, /media/ZAURUS-1, etc.  they are all the same!  how do i fix this?
[06:23] <airfoil> zorglu: my problem now is i can't set the package to download from repository list
[06:24] <zorglu_> why not ?
[06:26] <zorglu_> !tab | airfoil
[06:26] <ubotu> airfoil: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[06:28] <airfoil> zorglu_: thank you
[06:29] <airfoil> zorglu_: i try to follow the instruction how to set the resipotories list but it seem waiting for header
[06:29] <chupa-chups> i really cannot find a way to thank u all , many thanks to u :))
[06:29] <zorglu_> airfoil: you have to provide more specific details of the error you experienced
[06:30] <red22> i have a radeon x19950pro and i've followed a bunch of guides to try to install it... has anyone been able to get the drivers working on that chipset on k edgy?
[06:30] <airfoil> zorglu_: let me start from begin.
[06:31] <airfoil> zorglu_: after i install kubuntu package using dvd download form kubunut.org , i wana install additional package such as chm viewer
[06:31] <zorglu_> ok
[06:31] <airfoil> zorglu_: follow your instruction, i choose to install kchmviewer.
[06:32] <airfoil> zorglu_: please show me from begin how to install kchmviewer in to my kubuntu.
[06:32] <zorglu_> airfoil: i already did
[06:32] <zorglu_> "sudo apt-get install kchmviewer"
[06:32] <airfoil> zorglu_: lets forget about update resipotory list
[06:32] <zorglu_> it works if you got the universe repository setup
[06:33] <airfoil> sudo apt-get install kchmviewer
[06:33] <airfoil> Reading package lists... Done
[06:33] <airfoil> Building dependency tree
[06:33] <airfoil> Reading state information... Done
[06:33] <airfoil> E: Couldn't find package kchmviewer
[06:33] <zorglu_> !info kchmviewer
[06:33] <ubotu> kchmviewer: CHM viewer for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 200 kB, installed size 624 kB
[06:33] <zorglu_> airfoil as you can see it is in the 'universe' repository
[06:34] <zorglu_> airfoil: set it up and the apt-get will works
[06:34] <airfoil> zorglu_: okay. Mind to teach me how to set it up?
[06:34] <zorglu_> kinda :)
[06:34] <zorglu_> !repo
[06:34] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:34] <zorglu_> but i will point you at the link
[06:35] <airfoil> zorglu_: I tried to follow the instruction form the link u gave but still can't
[06:35] <zorglu_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu#head-775cf32093c1bb05fef1e24465c9be753d760275 <- this link details it
[06:35] <airfoil> zorglu_: I am dive into that link now. will back to u later. thank you very much.
[06:36] <zorglu_> ok
[06:37] <airfoil> zorglu_: I already enable the universe and multiverse
[06:38] <airfoil> zorglu_: then i type kchmviewer and click fetch update
[06:38] <zorglu_> "apt-cache policy kchmviewer" <- what is the result of this
[06:38] <airfoil> zorglu_: it show waiting for header (0%) and seem stuck
[06:38] <zorglu_> dunno sorry
[06:38] <airfoil> airfoil@laptop-kubuntu:~$ apt-cache policy kchmviewer
[06:39] <airfoil> W: Unable to locate package kchmviewer
[06:39] <zorglu_> no more time to help you
[06:39] <zorglu_> for future reference what you want is "how to enable universe repository"
[06:39] <angasule> !flash
[06:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:44] <bubu1uk> !samba
[06:44] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:44] <michael__> uff.. wie war der channel fr kubuntu hilfe?
[06:44] <bubu1uk> !de
[06:44] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:44] <michael__> danke
[06:48] <ubuntu> hello all i made a mistake whit the partion magic boot tool i told him to boot the 2 operating sistem linux but dident install it good now at boot pc says error on loading os how i get back to xp now_
[06:49] <ubuntu> any one here for help_
[06:49] <ubuntu> i nead to get back in the pc whit xp and unistall partion magic how u do that _
[06:50] <hyper_ch> ubuntu: just install ubuntu again and then let grub install into the boot sector
[06:50] <ubuntu> i cant
[06:50] <ubuntu> couse i did it all whit partion magic on xp
[06:50] <ubuntu> and kubuntu is not installed i just made some mistake whit partion magic boot tool
[06:51] <ubuntu> so now dosent load any os how u get back in xp _
[06:51] <hyper_ch> ubuntu: did you backup all your data first?
[06:51] <ubuntu> no
[06:51] <ubuntu> but nothing is deleted
[06:51] <ubuntu> is just i loaded the wrong os
[06:52] <ubuntu> and want to get in the pc now so i can delete partion magic
[06:52] <ubuntu> what was that way windows has to get in the pc low mode that u use even when u get a virus_
[06:52] <ubuntu> that i nead but dont rember how u do it
[06:52] <hyper_ch> ubuntu: partition magic can create/delete/resize partition
[06:52] <hyper_ch> s
[06:53] <hyper_ch> ubuntu: but it does not change bootloader.. at least it shouldn't
[06:53] <ubuntu> is there any italy chans here couse i can-t speak english well
[06:53] <hyper_ch> !it
[06:53] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:53] <ubuntu> i chanded boot loader for mistake
[06:53] <ubuntu> in fact
[06:53] <ubuntu> grazie abotu
[06:53] <ubuntu> u}
[06:54] <lbulb> i'm new here, and i don;teven know how to connect to another server--undernet. I typed irc.undernet.net and added the server but it's not connecting. Any clues?
[06:55] <hyper_ch> lbulb: what irc client?
[06:56] <ds_> XVampireX
[06:56] <XVampireX> What?
[06:56] <XVampireX> Not using MSN, forget about it :D
[06:57] <ds_> You're gay man, get back on lol
[06:57] <XVampireX> Sorry, jabber for me
[06:57] <ds_> Bah!
[06:57] <ds_> I can't figure out how to install a .cmd file...it keeps opening it as a text doc
[06:57] <XVampireX> What's a cmd file?
[06:58] <ds_> *Shrugs*  Well, I installed Warcraft 3 frozen throne...and I can't get it to open >< Keeps saying No CD
[06:58] <XVampireX> Linux got something cool, it makes idiots like windows users who click anything they see think twice before clicking
[06:58] <XVampireX> So why .cmd file?
[06:58] <ds_> I tried to get a No-CD crack :)
[06:59] <XVampireX> Not sure it requires one
[06:59] <ds_> and it says I need to install that...but it's only opening as text.
[06:59] <ds_> It doesn't I don't think
[06:59] <XVampireX> You got original version?
[06:59] <ds_> But, I don't know how to get it to run.  I've tried for a few hours now =)
[06:59] <ds_> Yeah, and Expansion
[06:59] <XVampireX> sec then
[06:59] <ds_> It's already installed...but*shrugs*
[06:59] <XVampireX> You may have to put your cdrom device in winecfg
[07:00] <ds_> You do
[07:00] <ds_> I think I did
[07:00] <ds_> I was messing with it all night last night, it sucked haha
[07:01] <Xal2> Hi, I need some help setting up VNC so that I have KDM remotely
[07:01] <XVampireX> P.S: Warcraft 3 worked here many versions ago, so I doubt you'll have problems :P
[07:01] <ds_> The instructions just confused me
[07:01] <ds_> I know it works
[07:02] <XVampireX> ds_: You need a crack
[07:02] <BlueMage> I need helg getting a dock installed
[07:02] <Xal2> I can get VNC working, but all I get is an xterm shell
[07:02] <ds_> I do?
[07:03] <ds_> damnit
[07:03] <cpufreak91> Hi
[07:03] <XVampireX> ds_: #winehq
[07:03] <ds_> Oh, I'm wanting to play on Battle.net (multiplayer) btw
[07:03] <cpufreak91> kaffiene won't start
[07:03] <cpufreak91> I run it in the console and I get no output whatsoever
[07:03] <XVampireX> cpufreak91: run it via console and give the output
[07:03] <XVampireX> Oh
[07:03] <ds_> I'm there
[07:03] <XVampireX> ds_: Ask stuff there :D
[07:04] <XVampireX> It's more appropriate there
[07:04] <michael> ree
[07:04] <ds_> Get on MSN
[07:04] <michael> hilfe channel?
[07:04] <BlueMage> *help
[07:05] <michael> wie war der channel fr kubuntu hilfe?
[07:05] <cpufreak91> XVampireX: I type /usr/bin/kaffeine and as soon as I press the Return key I get the bash prompt
[07:05] <XVampireX> ds_: never
[07:05] <XVampireX> cpufreak91: reinstall it? :D
[07:05] <ds_> ...Bah
[07:05] <XVampireX> you sure it's not starting up?
[07:05] <michael> #kubuntu_de?
[07:06] <cpufreak91> XVampireX: Tried that
[07:06] <cpufreak91> XVampireX: Should I consider purging it?
[07:06] <XVampireX> Did it work before or what?
[07:06] <cpufreak91> XVampireX: I don't know if that would work because I deleted .kde/share/config/kopeterc
[07:06] <cpufreak91> and .kde/share/apps/kaffeine
[07:06] <cpufreak91> oops
[07:06] <cpufreak91> I ment kaffeinerc
[07:07] <michael> kann mir nochmal wer den link geben fr den kubuntu hilfechannel?
[07:07] <XVampireX> !de
[07:07] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:07] <michael> ahh danke dir
[07:07] <XVampireX> :)
[07:09] <adz21c> Hey, I am running Edgy 6.10 amd64. When I first log in to KDE all my colours look like they are on a low setting (i.e. like 16it colours), however soon as I run glxgears, everything looks normal (24bit) till I reboot. Any ideas why this could be and how I could fix it?
[07:09] <XVampireX> cpufreak91: you deleted the files just now or what?
[07:18] <londo4>   help, what the good way to unistall programmes like realplayer ?
[07:18] <londo4> Help
[07:18] <londo4> Or how can i remove programmes?
[07:19] <cloakable> londo4: You installed using APT?
[07:19] <londo4> cloakable: yes
[07:21] <_MasterMind_> hi
[07:22] <Dr_willis> use the package manager,
[07:22] <Dr_willis> or the shell..  sudo apt-get remove WHATEVER
[07:22] <Dr_willis> !apt
[07:22] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:23] <_MasterMind_> hi.. I have a problem with XOrg and the keyboard
[07:23] <_MasterMind_> I have for ~ a compination of keys.. AltGr + 1
[07:23] <_MasterMind_> and to get this char I have to press it twice
[07:23] <_MasterMind_> (same goes for other numbers)
[07:24] <_MasterMind_> has any1 a clue how to change it?
[07:26] <crusty> hallo! recentlly downloaded the drive supporting the webcam SN9C105...any help how to install it?
[07:26] <Dr_willis> crusty,  do some googling to see if theres ANY linux support for that thing at all.
[07:26] <londo4> cloakable: are you there?
[07:26] <nagyv> how can I instruct the kubuntu that he is sitting on a laptop, it was not detected during upgrade (http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/?xml=054a95b3b5457c6c5c0c835df9bd2a0e)
[07:27] <Dr_willis> ive had very bad luck with my webcams. No support at all..
[07:27] <crusty> the installation support came with the drives.....the problem is that im new on linux kubuntu
[07:27] <londo4> How can I uninstall programes on kubuntu?
[07:28] <nagyv> crusty: what kind of webcam is this? Mine worked out of the box.
[07:28] <nagyv> !install
[07:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:28] <ckd> hat hier einer ahung von netzwerken ?
[07:28] <Dr_willis> londo4,  use the package manager adept, or synaptic, and click/remove.. OR use the command line tool like i mentioned earlier
[07:28] <crusty> SN9C105
[07:28] <Dr_willis> londo4,  read  up on Apt ussage
[07:29] <crusty> LUKY YOU! apparentlly mine is not........
[07:29] <guglielf> any idea how to link (lets say on the desktop) a given document in the kde help center?
[07:30] <_MasterMind_> Any1 knows what could be the problem? On Gentoo I would uninstall xkeyboard-config and recompiled xkbdata.. here doesn't work :(
[07:30] <nagyv> crusty: could you find a linux driver or you would like to use the windows driver?
[07:31] <guglielf> ok, found by myself
[07:32] <crusty> i did find the linux driver.....according to the owner thay should support this particular webcam
[07:32] <ubuntu> what's the italian chanel for kubuntu again?
[07:33] <crusty> i do not mind to use windows driver if it posiible!!!!!!!!1
[07:33] <ubuntu> can u paste me again the italian chans for kubuntu ?
[07:34] <cyrex> anyone here who would be pleased to help a newbie with the nvidia graphics drivers :)? it seems like at #nvidia everyone just fell asleep ^^
[07:34] <ubuntu> thanx
[07:35] <_MasterMind_> cyrex: what is the problem?
[07:35] <cyrex> i just started using linux
[07:36] <_MasterMind_> aha..
[07:36] <crusty> nagyv: this is the link where i did download the file.......http://www.linux-projects.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=102
[07:36] <cyrex> and i cant set the resolution of my monitor higher than 60 Hz
[07:36] <_MasterMind_> did you do apt-get install nvidia-glx ? (or using adept)
[07:36] <fragrag> Cyrex, did you try system settings->display?
[07:36] <_MasterMind_> and which graphic card
[07:36] <cyrex> yop
[07:36] <_MasterMind_> and try that also..
[07:36] <_MasterMind_> try configuring the Display..
[07:36] <fragrag> And changing resolution?
[07:36] <cyrex> GeForce 4 4200 Ti
[07:37] <_MasterMind_> selecting the right monitor or reslution scheme..
[07:37] <_MasterMind_> in Hardware tab
[07:37] <cyrex> cant also set res. higher than 1024x768
[07:37] <fragrag> It's possible that at your current resolution you don't support +60Hz
[07:37] <_MasterMind_> I think the monitor is wrongly configured...
[07:37] <_MasterMind_> (Had the same prob)
[07:37] <_MasterMind_> Try going System settings->Display
[07:38] <_MasterMind_> Click on the Hardware tab
[07:38] <_MasterMind_> go to Administraton mode.
[07:38] <_MasterMind_> and klik on the Configure button on Screen (A monitor icon)
[07:39] <cyrex> i only have screenresolution at System > Settings
[07:39] <nagyv> crusty: did you already read the included txt file? you will have to create a kernel module, probably all the steps are well detailed in the file. but you will probably need the kernel headers, and I do not know which flags were set for the actual ubuntu kernel.
[07:39] <cyrex> but ive found the  hardwaremanager
[07:39] <_MasterMind_> you don't have monitor & display ?
[07:40] <cyrex> i'm german and installed ubuntu in german ^^
[07:40] <crusty> i did! but i can not understand everyting! thats why i do need halp.
[07:40] <_MasterMind_> under Computer administration :P
[07:40] <_MasterMind_> ok.. must go :) (Has a monitor icon)
[07:41] <crusty> well don't worry! thank you anyway.......
[07:41] <crusty> ill find a way to do that
[07:43] <cpufreak91> XVampireX: Sorry a long unexpected afk
[07:43] <cpufreak91> XVampireX: I deleted the files a few days ago, and then re-installed kaffeine.
[07:44] <cpufreak91> ah. He's gone. ;)
[07:44] <cpufreak91> XVampireX: Sorry a long unexpected afk
[07:44] <cpufreak91> XVampireX: I deleted the files a few days ago, and then re-installed kaffeine.
[07:45] <XVampireX> Something really fucked up just happened
[07:45] <XVampireX> cpufreak91: now it doesn't work?
[07:45] <cpufreak91> nope
[07:45] <cpufreak91> still nothing
[07:45] <XVampireX> purge it and install it again
[07:45] <cpufreak91> would a Purge help?
[07:45] <cpufreak91> ok
[07:45] <XVampireX> may very well help
[07:47] <cpufreak91> XVampireX: Darn it. Still nothing
[07:48] <cpufreak91> XVampireX: I purged it
[07:48] <XVampireX> no idea
[07:49] <cpufreak91> It's almost as if I were running a blank bash script
[07:53] <XVampireX> cpufreak91: you're not missing anything, use kmplayer
[07:54] <XVampireX> cpufreak91: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2482838
[07:54] <XVampireX> Should work for kubuntu too
[07:57] <XVampireX> cpufreak91: LOL!!!!!!!! OMG! that was funny! I found that link on page of a google search for a "arch linux review 0.8"
[08:03] <cpufreak91> XVampireX: hahaha
[08:04] <cpufreak91> XVampireX: could I have the link?
[08:04] <XVampireX> What?
[08:04] <XVampireX> I just gave it to you
[08:04] <XVampireX> Or what do you mean?
[08:05] <cpufreak91> oh I see now
[08:05] <cpufreak91> sorry
[08:05] <cpufreak91> I thought the link for the funny arch review was different
[08:06] <cpufreak91> XVampireX: Thanks for the LQ link
[08:06] <cpufreak91> kaffeine --nofork works
[08:06] <XVampireX> :P
[08:07] <zorglu_> dunno this option
[08:07] <amik> hi, I have a zd1211 based wireless USB device, which works ok (WPA and all). however, after a few hours it dies, and only a reboot connects again. anyone have any ideas where to start looking for a solution?
[08:07] <zorglu_> what is the use of --nofork
[08:07] <cpufreak91> however regular kaffeine still doesn't work
[08:07] <cpufreak91> so I have to fix a few KDE configs but at least it works
[08:08] <Digital_Pioneer> XVampireX: So, find any sweet games?
[08:08] <XVampireX> Digital_Pioneer: No :P
[08:08] <cpufreak91> ah
[08:08] <cpufreak91> nvm
[08:08] <zorglu_> http://tremulous.net <- sweet game :0
[08:08] <XVampireX> Perhaps, yes
[08:08] <cpufreak91> dcop kaffeine MainApdcop kaffeine MainApplication-Interface quit
[08:08] <cpufreak91> fixed everything
[08:08] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: Yes, I like it too.
[08:08] <XVampireX> :D
[08:08] <Digital_Pioneer> But I suck at it.
[08:08] <zorglu_> i dont :)
[08:09] <Digital_Pioneer> Yeah, but you get abused if you do.
[08:09] <zorglu_> well im unbalancer :)
[08:09] <Digital_Pioneer> :(
[08:09] <amik> anyone?
[08:09] <Digital_Pioneer> Besides, my system is fried ATM, so....
[08:09] <zorglu_> like real good on human and ultimatly bad at alien :)
[08:09] <Digital_Pioneer> amik: What?
[08:09] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: deconner ?
[08:09] <zorglu_> amik: this is ultra specific man
[08:09] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: Yeah, I suck at human, die before spawning at alien.
[08:09] <amik> Pioneer: hi, I have a zd1211 based wireless USB device, which works ok (WPA and all). however, after a few hours it dies, and only a reboot connects again.
[08:09] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: What's deconner mean?
[08:10] <amik> zorglu: I don't even know where to search for or post a bug... any leads?
[08:10] <Digital_Pioneer> amik: What's the device id? wlan0?
[08:10] <Lam_> wow that looks like a fun game. it's linux native?
[08:10] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: i was trying to understand what you meant by 'abused'. deconner are people destroying base just for the 'fun' of ennoying other player
[08:10] <Digital_Pioneer> Lam_: Tremulous? Yeah, it's Linux.
[08:10] <amik> Pioneer: how do I check?
[08:10] <zorglu_> linux/win/mac
[08:10] <Lam_> cool
[08:11] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: Roundly cussed out, basically.
[08:11] <Digital_Pioneer> amik: Try "iwconfig"
[08:11] <amik> ok, KNetworkManager says it's eth1
[08:11] <Digital_Pioneer> amik: OK.
[08:11] <Digital_Pioneer> amik: Do iwconfig to make sure.
[08:11] <Digital_Pioneer> Only one should list data.
[08:12] <amik> confirmed
[08:12] <Digital_Pioneer> The rest should say something about no wireless stuff found.
[08:12] <Digital_Pioneer> OK. :D
[08:12] <mohammed> i wonder if someone could help me through this , but some of kde system settings components are no longer functioning !
[08:12] <Digital_Pioneer> When it dies, do "dhclient eth1"
[08:12] <Digital_Pioneer> mohammed: You're sure you're using the right commands?
[08:12] <Digital_Pioneer> amik: If that doesn't work, do "'/etc/init.d/networking restart"
[08:13] <amik> right now I'm after a reboot, so I can't test online
[08:13] <mohammed> what commands ?
[08:13] <Digital_Pioneer> mohammed: I think I misunderstood the question.... I probably have no clue.
[08:13] <amik> I played around when it happened though, and I think something got stuck at the USB level. I tried lsusb which hung
[08:13] <mohammed> kk
[08:14] <amik> and shutdown hung too - I had to do a cold boot
[08:14] <zorglu_> amik: did it worked on dapper ?
[08:14] <max_> is there any way to install kubuntu from a konsole?
[08:15] <max_> i cant boot from the CD
[08:15] <zorglu_> !install
[08:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:15] <zorglu_> not this page
[08:15] <Digital_Pioneer> max_: What's currently installed?
[08:15] <zorglu_> max_: there is a page just for you
[08:15] <max_> kubuntu
[08:16] <zorglu_> oh no, this page is good
[08:16] <Digital_Pioneer> max_: You're trying to install Kubuntu over Kubuntu?
[08:16] <amik> zorglu: I'm not sure, I just installed Kubuntu for the first time a short while ago - it was Dapper, but shortly after I reinstalled with Edgy. I'm not sure if I had the wireless setup then at all.
[08:16] <max_> yes, mine is broke
[08:16] <zorglu_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation <- max_ this give many way to install even without booting cd
[08:16] <Digital_Pioneer> max_: Ahhh, well, I would recommend you check your boot orders.
[08:16] <max_> thats not the proble
[08:16] <max_> m
[08:16] <max_> i deleted some things i shouldnt hav
[08:16] <max_> e
[08:16] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: Is there a way to install the system files again without reinstalling Kubuntu?
[08:17] <zorglu_> amik: im asking because just today a guy complained about its usb freezing on edgy and said it was ok on dapper
[08:17] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: My system is fried ATM, and I need to install again but not lose my programs and files.
[08:17] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: no
[08:17] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: Rats.
[08:17] <amik> what was his solution? :-)
[08:17] <zorglu_> amik: he didnt have one
[08:17] <Digital_Pioneer> max_: You should make sure you are checking the CD for boot directives before the HDD.
[08:18] <amik> do u know if this is a known reported bug? where would I search for it? or file it?
[08:18] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: oh ok, well this one is simple, backup the personnal stuff, reinstall the os, restore personnal stuff
[08:18] <Digital_Pioneer> max_: If not, you can't boot from CD as long as you have a hard drive with an OS on it, broken or not.
[08:18] <zorglu_> amik: hmm looks like a driver/kernel issue
[08:18] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: Not quite so simple...
[08:18] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: I have files in /home, programs in /usr, settings in /etc....
[08:18] <zorglu_> amik: i would google to see if im alone if i were you
[08:19] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: my personnal stuff all goes in /home just to avoid this very issue
[08:19] <Digital_Pioneer> And right now I'm stuck on windoze clicking away an alert that says to reboot every 2 seconds. AAARGGGH! I don't like windoze much.
[08:19] <lbulb> need some help with servers--what is the address for undernet: irc.undernet.net?
[08:19] <amik> zorglu_: I tried that before coming here... found tutorials and stuff about getting it to work in the first place, which is not my problem. didn't see anything specific on it freezing after a while.
[08:20] <Digital_Pioneer> zorglu_: Well, I'd love to install programs, settings, and files in /home and then make /home a separate partiton, but I haven't the foggiest idea how!
[08:20] <max_> Digital_Pioneer: i cant boot up normally, i have to put the CD in and choose Boot From First Harddrive....thats the only choice i can do, i cant do "Start or Install Kubuntu" and i cant do any of the installers on that pagee because i dont have a floppy drivew
[08:20] <zorglu_> Digital_Pioneer: good time to learn
[08:21] <Digital_Pioneer> max_: You're sure you aren't going to GRUB (if you use it) or something like that?
[08:21] <zorglu_> amik: i would say google for 'usb freeze ubuntu'
[08:21] <zorglu_> amik: quite a lot of stuff pop out
[08:21] <Digital_Pioneer> max_: On mine, the first thing I see on bootup is like a BIOS spash screen or something.
[08:22] <Digital_Pioneer> max_: I can hit esc and check which hardware I want to boot from
[08:22] <max_> mine wont boot period with out the cd...jsut black screen with blinking white line
[08:22] <Digital_Pioneer> max_: It sounds to me, then, like your BIOS is blown... But I really don't know.
[08:23] <Digital_Pioneer> max_: Usually, you can enter a system setup before even looking at the harddrive, and change where you boot from.
[08:23] <max_> i cant
[08:23] <tony__> anyone know why my usb controller isn't seen or how to configure it?
[08:23] <cloakable> ...is there any good way to record from last.fm with KDE/Linux?
[08:23] <max_> nothing loads at all
[08:24] <Digital_Pioneer> cloakable: I'd love to do that! LOL
[08:24] <tony__> cloakable: yes, apt-cache search lastfm, i think
[08:24] <Digital_Pioneer> cloakable: Never could figure it out though.
[08:24] <amik> zorglu_: thanks, I'll do some more research, see if I can find anything related.
[08:24] <Digital_Pioneer> tony__: I think he means rip the stream to MP3, not just listening to it.
[08:24] <amik> btw, I just saw a new kernel was released too, with some updates to this driver - any idea if/when this will be available as an Edgy upgrade?
[08:25] <tony__> Digital_Pioneer: yes, i'm sure i downloaded it in case i needed it in the basic repositories, but i can't remember half of what i apt-get
[08:25] <Digital_Pioneer> tony__: Is your controller in lsusb?
[08:26] <zorglu_> amik: nope...
[08:26] <luh> hi
[08:26] <Digital_Pioneer> luh: Hi. :)
[08:26] <luh> hi Digital_Pioneer
[08:26] <cloakable> tony__: No go. Only official client, with no recording.
[08:26] <tony__> cloakable: http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:DyT6PDwFM9kJ:kde-apps.org/content/show.php%3Fcontent%3D32842+record+streaming+last.fm+kde&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a
[08:26] <Digital_Pioneer> luh: Hi, luh. :)
[08:27] <tony__> kstreamrecorder also, i think
[08:27] <max_> Digital_Pioneer: is there no other way to install with out a CD or a Floppy?
[08:27] <lbulb> Digital_Pioneer: need some help with servers: if I'm trying to connect to undernet, do I add on the server list irc.undernet.net..is there a list with those- I'm using ubuntu
[08:27] <luh> in the wiki of kubuntu it says to change the root pwd with sudo passwd root
[08:27] <malik__> can any1 tell me plz that why in edgy konqueror can play all the media types off of the internet and firefox cant play anything?
[08:27] <Digital_Pioneer> max_: Not that I know of.............
[08:27] <luh> but this obviously just changes the password for logging in or changing to a root-terminal with su
[08:27] <luh> but kdesu and gnomesu still want my password
[08:27] <cloakable> tony__: kstreamripper does regular radio, so does RecordRadio, Neither works with last.fm
[08:27] <luh> how can i change that as well?
[08:28] <tony__> malik__: did you add a firefox plugin like the mplayer one?
[08:28] <tony__> oops, that's why i dl'ed it thinking it would be good for that
[08:28] <Digital_Pioneer> lbulb: If you want to connect to irc.undernet.net, I would say you put irc.undernet.net as your server. :)
[08:28] <malik__> no idont think so.......cud that may be the cause?.....coz i think konqueror was playing everything outta box
[08:29] <Digital_Pioneer> luh: Change your password to root's. :)
[08:29] <malik__> plus i cudnt get gedit command to work in kubuntu either
[08:29] <Digital_Pioneer> luh: SU uses root.
[08:29] <Digital_Pioneer> luh: KDESU uses sudo.
[08:29] <Digital_Pioneer> luh: I can't remember how to change it to su instead.
[08:30] <tony__> Digital_Pioneer: isn't there a way though as in windows, to just record what you hear in kde?
[08:30] <luh> Digital_Pioneer, changing my passwd to roots would be counter-productive
[08:30] <Digital_Pioneer> tony__: Sure... Try audacity.
[08:30] <tony__> nm, i'm sure there's a way, just may take some research
[08:30] <luh> so - now - how can i change the sudo passwd?
[08:30] <Digital_Pioneer> luh: True. ;)
[08:31] <luh> why doesn't that just read the normal passwd file?
[08:31] <Digital_Pioneer> luh: the sudo password _is_ your password.
[08:31] <Digital_Pioneer> tony__: You can make Audacity record from the soundcard.
[08:32] <malik__> plus can any one tell me shud i stick with ubuntu or kubuntu?
[08:33] <malik__> or totally go over to fedora 6?
[08:33] <tony__> Digital_Pioneer: i thought so in windows but haven't gotten around to using it yet in linux
[08:33] <Charlemagne> Does kubuntu support the RT2500 wireless chipset from RALink?
[08:34] <robotgeek> Charlemagne: it should work out of the box
[08:34] <Charlemagne> Just what I wanted to hear =)
[08:34] <tony__> malik__: it's a matter of choice. i like kubuntu myself. i've never learned more about linux than i have with kubuntu
[08:35] <Digital_Pioneer> tony__: aptitude install audacity
[08:36] <tony__> Digital_Pioneer: yes, i got it installed and toyed with it for a sec. it's got a rather ugly UI compared to it's windows app
[08:36] <malik__> and when i query the webcam i can see it with lsusb command but its not working with my amsn instead my tv tuner card comes up as video device .......how do i setup my web cam?
[08:36] <soulrider> !info karbon
[08:36] <ubotu> karbon: a vector graphics application for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 911 kB, installed size 3196 kB
[08:36] <Digital_Pioneer> tony__: Quite true.
[08:37] <albert> 
[08:37] <malik__> any help will be greatly appreciated
[08:38] <tony__> malik__: not sure, i keep mine like that so people can watch my tv if i get boring
[08:38] <malik__> LOLz
[08:38] <malik__> good on ya mate
[08:38] <luh> Digital_Pioneer, something with /etc/sudoers
[08:38] <easytiger> what the hell is gam_server and why does it crash20 times a day
[08:39] <soulrider> !info koshell
[08:39] <ubotu> koshell: the KDE Office Suite workspace. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 185 kB, installed size 544 kB
[08:39] <soulrider> !info kivio
[08:39] <ubotu> kivio: a flowcharting program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 525 kB, installed size 1744 kB
[08:39] <tony__> easytiger: are you using edgy or dapper?
[08:39] <easytiger> edgy
[08:39] <easytiger> eft
[08:40] <tony__> easytiger: oh, i used to have a problem with it in dapper but since i upgraded, it's fine. used to hog my system resources. i think it is something to do with polling
[08:41] <easytiger> its really annoying
[08:41] <easytiger> i'm running latest stable everything
[08:43] <T3hWiz0rd> is it only me or is the suse project filled with (forgive language) cocksuckers?
[08:43] <tony__> easytiger: nevermind that, i think i was wrong. quick google search, it seems a web server
[08:43] <tony__> don't quote me
[08:43] <bill__> hmmm
[08:44] <Digital_Pioneer> T3hWiz0rd: I'd say they are... Didn't they abandon the GPL?
[08:44] <tony__> T3hWiz0rd: too early for me to give my opinion. i'll wait and see the products of SUSE later before i judge
[08:45] <T3hWiz0rd> its also just the community in #suse is filled with grade-A zealotish Aholes...
[08:46] <T3hWiz0rd> I just got done telling one of the pathetics in there i hope all the worst possible happen to him, including the rape and murder of his mother... but whatever, thats my /rant, its done.
[08:46] <tony__> lol, a little harsh
[08:46] <T3hWiz0rd> I'm a harsh person to pathetic people... I'm not around for a popularity contest.
[08:47] <robotgeek> !coc
[08:47] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[08:47] <robotgeek> this is a family friendly channel :)
[08:47] <Digital_Pioneer> And there's also...
[08:47] <Digital_Pioneer> !language
[08:47] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:47] <T3hWiz0rd> robotgeek: as i said, my /rant is over... leave it hell alone already, i addressed myself on it
[08:48] <zorglu_> but coc is not followed by anyone
[08:48] <T3hWiz0rd> shoving coc at me will only probably enrage me further, simply leave me alone until i am in a better mood... i'll walk it off
[08:48] <Hawkwind> T3hWiz0rd: Please don't address channel ops with that attitude or tone please.  It won't be tolerated
[08:48] <Digital_Pioneer> If I took the time to read it, I'd stick with it. However, I watch my behavior as it is, and usually stay well within the boundaries. :)
[08:49] <T3hWiz0rd> requesting to be left alone is my god-given right. I am asking to be left alone...
[08:49] <T3hWiz0rd> there is no tone... I'm asking for you to let me resolve myself... if you cant', then it becomes flamitory...
[08:49] <Hawkwind> But you do not have to speak to users in that tone or attitude.  End of discussion
[08:50] <T3hWiz0rd> it is also my god given right to speak how I want... I am not being rude, so I feel no remorce. Now discussion is ended.
[08:50] <zorglu_> no no me i want the last word
[08:50] <archangel_> anybody know how I can get decent games? search on google doesnt seem to get anything
[08:50] <t3hwiz0rd-alb> did you resolve anything from that, Hawkwind ?
[08:50] <tony__> archangel_: linux + games
[08:51] <t3hwiz0rd-alb> anything at all? i admiktted to cussing, and stopped it... so what have you resolved? anything at all?
[08:51] <easytiger> t3hwiz0rd: nothing wrong with the suse community
[08:51] <tony__> archangel_: wolf et is good if you like fps online games
[08:51] <zorglu_> archangel_: http://tremulous.net
[08:51] <louis> hi
[08:51] <Digital_Pioneer> archangel_: www.google.com/linux
[08:52] <Digital_Pioneer> archangel_: Search there. Better results.
[08:52] <archangel_> I do tony__
[08:52] <archangel_> thanks
[08:52] <zorglu_> moauoua he is on #kubuntu-offtopic bad mouthing on #kubuntu this time :)
[08:53] <tony__> archangel_: i would also recommend xqf game server to join your friends or clan in games
[08:53] <archangel_> great ok
[08:53] <billytwowilly> so if my mouse is not recognized by kubuntu and no entry is in dmesg showing it connected what should I do?
[08:54] <Digital_Pioneer> billytwowilly: What kind of mouse?
[08:54] <Digital_Pioneer> PS/2 or USB?
[08:54] <billytwowilly> usb
[08:55] <Digital_Pioneer> billytwowilly: Do you have console?
[08:55] <billytwowilly> Digital_Pioneer: yep
[08:55] <Digital_Pioneer> billytwowilly: Good, lsusb.
[08:55] <ckd> where can i download the 2.6.18 kernel for my edgy ?
[08:55] <Digital_Pioneer> billytwowilly: See if it's listed.
[08:55] <billytwowilly> it's a laptop, so the touchpad still works
[08:55] <Digital_Pioneer> billytwowilly: If not, then it isn't connected properly.
[08:55] <billytwowilly> Digital_Pioneer: it's not listed.
[08:55] <Digital_Pioneer> ckd: www.kernel.org
[08:56] <Digital_Pioneer> billytwowilly: Then it isn't connected properly. :)
[08:56] <billytwowilly> Digital_Pioneer: is there any way to check if the usb bus on the laptop is broken?
[08:56] <Digital_Pioneer> billytwowilly: Sure: connect something else there, and lsusb it.
[08:56] <billytwowilly> the led is on on the mouse... and it's plugged in. so either the mouse is busted or the  usb host is;)
[08:57] <cloakable> There. LastFMProxy, RecordRadio, and Amarok appear to be working.
[08:57] <billytwowilly> k, so nothing is changing when I plug something else in... to any of the ports...
[08:58] <ckd> Digital_Pioneer: thx but i diddnt can burn it
[08:58] <Digital_Pioneer> billytwowilly: That means power is getting to the mouse... But the computer doesn't see it. Probably your bus is fried.
[08:58] <Digital_Pioneer> ckd: What?
[08:58] <billytwowilly> Digital_Pioneer: is there a way to test for sure?
[08:58] <robotgeek> billytwowilly: connect a different, working mouse :)
[08:58] <Digital_Pioneer> billytwowilly: Probably.. But IDK it.
[08:58] <billytwowilly> heh.
[08:58] <billytwowilly> crappy.
[08:58] <billytwowilly> so i gotta buy a new laptop then.
[08:59] <Digital_Pioneer> billytwowilly: Not necessarily.
[08:59] <Digital_Pioneer> billytwowilly: Check your lspci for the bus.
[08:59] <billytwowilly> the bus is there...
[08:59] <ckd> Digital_Pioneer:  no ready kernel, i needit couse a sky2 patch mei lan is brocken evrytime
[09:00] <Digital_Pioneer> ckd: No clue where packages are. I just use what comes installed...
[09:00] <Digital_Pioneer> ckd: Don't know how to compile 'em either.
[09:01] <Digital_Pioneer> billytwowilly: I don't know then. Maybe the mouse is broken. You would need a more knowledgable person than I.
[09:02] <billytwowilly> Digital_Pioneer: I plugged in a known working mouse to all the other ports and none work. Earlier I was getting  some usb debounce error thing... I think you're right and it's fried.
[09:03] <Bubba_Gump> seems a waste to buy a new laptop
[09:04] <tony__> billytwowilly: do you have a usb>ps2 adapter to try
[09:04] <Bubba_Gump> can you repair ?
[09:04] <billytwowilly> I don't have a ps2 port.
[09:04] <tony__> oh
[09:04] <Digital_Pioneer> Yeah, you could probably just get a new USB bus... No idea though.
[09:05] <billytwowilly> heh. well the laptop was getting replaced next september anyway.
[09:05] <tony__> billytwowilly: have you tried lmctl?
[09:06] <tony__> billytwowilly: i use it for my mx518 to get the most out of it and has some other useful functions you might try
[09:06] <billytwowilly> lmctl?
[09:06] <tony__> http://www.bedroomlan.org/~alexios/coding_lmctl.html
[09:07] <billytwowilly> hmm. I wonder when vista will hit mainstream laptops in Canada.
[09:07] <tony__> probably in the main repositories
[09:08] <billytwowilly> tony__: I'll check it out when I get a laptop with working USB;)
[09:08] <adz21c> Hey, I am running Edgy 6.10 amd64. When I first log in to KDE all my colours look like they are on a low setting (i.e. like 16it colours), however soon as I run glxgears, everything looks normal (24bit) till I reboot. Any ideas why this could be and how I could fix it?
[09:09] <billytwowilly> lame... a usb2 pcmcia adaptor costs 89 bucks...
[09:09] <billytwowilly> err, cardbus
[09:10] <Digital_Pioneer> adz21c: Hmm... Fine-tune your settings in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:10] <tony__> adz21c: configure your xorg.conf set to 24bit depth
[09:10] <helge> When I run this commando: sudo apt-get build-dep xserver-xorg-driver-ati , it says that it cannot find the source package, is that ok?
[09:10] <adz21c> tony__: it is 24bit depth
[09:11] <tony__> not sure about that
[09:11] <adz21c> tony__: what i am saying is it looks like its 16bit, till i run glx then it corrects it self till i reboot
[09:11] <robotgeek> helge: no, do you have the appropriate deb-src line
[09:11] <helge> Well I dont know (so I guess no)
[09:11] <helge> Yoou mean repositorys?
[09:11] <robotgeek> !compile > helge
[09:12] <robotgeek> helge: yes, in your sources.list
[09:12] <billytwowilly> hmm. found a usb2 pcmcia adaptor for 16 bucks. Looks like i'm not buying a new laptop yet afterall;)
[09:12] <helge> Well I have 9250 radeon and I use this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Radeon_9200/9250_%28RV280%29_and_DVI , Is there a better starting point for this?
[09:14] <billytwowilly> just to check, the pcmcia slot is the one on the side of almost all laptops right? looks like it could hold a thick credit card?
[09:14] <robotgeek> billytwowilly: yes. look on wikipedia/google to be sure
[09:15] <tony__> anyone use kxmame in here?
[09:15] <billytwowilly> tony__: I used to use kxmame. it's fairly decent.
[09:16] <tony__> billytwowilly: i can't get it to run fullscreen. i'm sure it's easy to do but not working. -f doesn't seem to work. any mame frontends you'd recommend for linux?
[09:26] <Xal2> whenever I start nano, I get the error /home/administrator/.nano_history: Permission denied
[09:26] <Xal2> Why?
[09:27] <fdoving> probably because you've started nano with sudo some time.
[09:32] <jeisma> how do i fix "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process"?
[09:32] <fdoving> Xal2: you can probably fix it with this command: sudo chown `id -nu`.`id -gn` /home/administrator/.nano_history
[09:32] <fdoving> !adept crash fix | jeisma
[09:32] <ubotu> jeisma: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[09:32] <Xal2> thanks, I'll try that
[09:33] <tamacracker> Hey guys, I have a DVD burner but I don't know of Kubuntu knows that it's a DVD burner
[09:33] <tamacracker> How would I be able to check that out?
[09:34] <fdoving> tamacracker: start k3b and see what it says.
[09:34] <zorglu_> k2d
[09:34] <zorglu_> that one :)
[09:34] <tamacracker> k2d or k3b?
[09:34] <zorglu_> follow fdoving
[09:34] <zorglu_> i did a typop
[09:34] <tamacracker> oh ok
[09:35] <tamacracker> where's k3b?
[09:35] <zorglu_> !k3b
[09:35] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[09:35] <tamacracker> oh i see it
[09:35] <fdoving> tamacracker: kmenu -> multimedia -> k3b
[09:35] <tamacracker> :D
[09:35] <angasule> how do I stop konqueror from asking me to install flash? it's friggin' annoying
[09:36] <HymnToLife> install Flash ?
[09:36] <olegfink> guys, i see ubotu is something really useful and cool ;) what's it and where can i get it? (maybe ubotu !ubotu? :))
[09:36] <tamacracker> ha.. nice, it recognizes my DVD burner correctly
[09:36] <zorglu_> !bot
[09:36] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:36] <cloakable> HymnToLife: Only if you like having memory leaks.
[09:37] <angasule> HymnToLife: why would I want flash? :? it's used for pr0n and ads
[09:37] <jamesb_> any hints on how I should proceed to fix sound in edgy? It worked in dapper and in edgy, then suddenly stopped working a few weeks ago
[09:37] <olegfink> zorglu_: thanks
[09:37] <fdoving> olegfink: it's a supybot, you can get it from the repositories :)
[09:38] <olegfink> heh cool
[09:38] <olegfink> it's what i needed all my life :P
[09:39] <angasule> that, and a real doll
[09:39] <snowice> Are there any amarok users? I can't seem to do a query to Musicbrainz anymore. That's on edgy and amarok 1.4.4.
[09:39] <olegfink> angasule: i suppose there's a checkbox in 'asking flash' window preventing future annoyance
[09:39] <cloakable> snowice: Do you have the mp3 plugin for musicbrainz?
[09:40] <olegfink> anagasule: hmm, apt-het real-doll ?
[09:40] <olegfink> s/apt-het/apt-get
[09:40] <angasule> olegfink: and you would be supposing wrong :(
[09:41] <angasule> olegfink: yeah, but it conflicts with the following packages: girlfriend, sex appeal, social life
[09:41] <jamesb_> can I dist-upgrade from edgy to dapper (ie. rollback)?
[09:41] <snowice> cloakable, I got libmusicbrainz4c2a installed. Is that the plugin or is that something else?
[09:42] <olegfink> angasule: i'm looking at this checkbox right now
[09:42] <cloakable> snowice: Nope. You need the mp3 plugin too.
[09:42] <snowice> jamesb_, do you have the sound modules loaded?
[09:42] <snowice> cloakable, how's it called and where can I find it?
[09:43] <olegfink> angasule: maybe write Replaces: string in real-doll to solve the conflicts?
[09:43] <jamesb_> snowice: lsmod |grep snd|wc -l says 17, I seem to have many loaded
[09:43] <angasule> olegfink: you go to a website that has flash, you get asked to install flash, and right there there is a checkbox for 'stop pestering me you little adnoying thing'?
[09:43] <jamesb_> snowice: system settings -> sound system -> test sound doesn't play anything either
[09:43] <cloakable> snowice: sudo apt-get install libtunepimp3-mp3
[09:44] <snowice> cloakable, thanks, man!
[09:44] <cloakable> snowice: Then you'll be able to use it. No problem :)
[09:44] <chitu> Hi, I'm a new Kubuntu user (and new Linux migrant from Windows), and this is also my first time using IRC.
[09:44] <jeisma> what flash do i need to download from adept to watch flash videos?
[09:45] <cloakable> jeisma: As in flv files/
[09:45] <z0d_> how to install my Nvidia drivers i'm with Geforce 7300LE
[09:45] <zorglu_> !flash
[09:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:45] <zorglu_> jeisma: somewherer in there :)
[09:45] <zorglu_> !flash9
[09:45] <chitu> Could someone please help me with an adept problem? When I try to run the Adept Updater, I get the error "Could not commit changes; Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."
[09:45] <ubotu> You can download a Flash 9 installer here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/backports/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy).  If you use GDebi to install it, make sure you open its terminal window (to answer an installer question).
[09:46] <z0d_> how to install my Nvidia drivers i'm with Geforce 7300LE
[09:46] <angasule> !nvidia
[09:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:46] <z0d_> 10q
[09:46] <snowice> jamesb_, is artsd running?
[09:47] <olegfink> anagsule: and in (reverse en-ru-en translation) it is called "do not ask again"
[09:47] <jamesb_> snowice: yes
[09:47] <chitu> I looked for info on this problem on the Web, and all I could find is that someone with the same problem got taken care of by joining #kubuntu. Can anyone help me?
[09:48] <jeisma> cloakable: i'm trying to watch a video i saw on yahoo
[09:48] <snowice> jamesb_, do you have sound devices? (ls /dev/snd)
[09:48] <jeisma> but it says this to me
[09:48] <ds_> Serge
[09:48] <olegfink> angasule: the only point is that i'm currently on dapper running apt-get dist-upgrade :) have konq 3.5.2
[09:48] <zorglu_> chitu: provide more detailed info and people will pick it up
[09:48] <jeisma> cloakable:
[09:48] <jeisma> Hello, please download the latest Flash player by clicking here.
[09:48] <jeisma> Note: it may be necessary to close and reopen your browser after the installation. Thank you!
[09:48] <z0d_> !help
[09:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:48] <ds_> Whatever Serge...*shrugs*
[09:48] <jeisma> and it said it was a wmv file
[09:48] <jamesb_> snowice: yes, a handful of character special devices
[09:48] <z0d_> !flash
[09:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:48] <z0d_> :D
[09:49] <jeisma> that's 3 links, which is it?
[09:49] <zorglu_> jeisma: the first i would guess
[09:49] <fragrag> !frostwire
[09:49] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:49] <angasule> olegfink: I'm on edgy
[09:50] <cloakable> jeisma: Sounds like you just need flash.
[09:50] <olegfink> and you say there's no such thing in 3.5.5 at was in 3.5.2? Strange...
[09:50] <jeisma> i got this in the terminal:
[09:50] <jeisma> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:50] <jeisma> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:50] <jeisma> how do i fix it?
[09:50] <olegfink> I will be able to see it tomorrow
[09:50] <zorglu_> !adept-crash-fix | jeisma
[09:50] <ubotu> jeisma: If Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[09:51] <jeisma> this is after trying to do the automated installation of flash 9 for linux
[09:51] <davincy> hola a todos
[09:51] <snowice> jamesb_, what does sudo dpkg -l '*alsa*' | grep '^ii' say?
[09:52] <jeisma> it says flashpluginnonfree is downloading... but last time i did this, it sat tehre for a good 2 hours and didn't do anything else
[09:52] <chitu> zorglu_: Thanks.  When I run the Adept Updater, it downloads a list of updates, but when I try to apply, I get the following error message: "[title bar]  Could not commit changes; [message text]  There was an error committing changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages." I looked for info on this problem on the Web, and all I could find is that someone with the same problem got taken care of by joining
[09:52] <chitu> #kubuntu. Running the apt-get version of the update from the command line didn't seem to help. Can anyone help me?
[09:53] <jamesb_> snowice: alsa-base alsa-utils libesd-alsa0 libsdl1.2debian-alsa (with some explanations)
[09:53] <jeisma> emoving flashplugin-nonfree ...
[09:53] <jeisma> Purging configuration files for flashplugin-nonfree ...
[09:53] <jeisma> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[09:53] <jeisma> dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--purge):
[09:53] <jeisma>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[09:53] <jeisma> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:53] <jeisma>  flashplugin-nonfree
[09:53] <jeisma> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:53] <jeisma> A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
[09:53] <jeisma> how do i fix that?
[09:54] <jamesb_> snowice: do I need alsa-oss?
[09:54] <snowice> jamesb_, that's what I have too
[09:55] <snowice> jamesb_, try aplay -l
[09:55] <jamesb_> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[09:55] <jamesb_> card 0: I82801DBICH4 [Intel 82801DB-ICH4] , device 0: Intel ICH [Intel 82801DB-ICH4] 
[09:55] <jamesb_>   Subdevices: 1/1
[09:55] <jamesb_>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[09:55] <jamesb_> card 0: I82801DBICH4 [Intel 82801DB-ICH4] , device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel 82801DB-ICH4 - IEC958] 
[09:55] <jamesb_>   Subdevices: 1/1
[09:55] <jamesb_>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[09:56] <snowice> jamesb_, check whether your sound is muted
[09:56] <jamesb_> snowice: I have, believe me! kmix claims its on
[09:56] <jamesb_> ie. not muted
[09:59] <snowice> jamesb_, is PCM also unmuted?
[10:00] <ds_> My slave drive is NTFS...how can I dual boot with it, having Windows on the slave?
[10:00] <jamesb_> snowice: PCM (and PC-speaker) were muted. I unmuted PCM but it doesn't seem to help
[10:01] <Ace2016> !paste > Ace2016
[10:01] <ds_> Does anyone here know about dual-booting?
[10:01] <cloakable> ds_: A little, why?
[10:01] <Ace2016> many do it, why?
[10:02] <entraks> yes. why ?
[10:02] <ds_> I need to know how to make my slave with Windows on it, actually boot up Windows - how do I ?
[10:02] <jamesb_> snowice: wow - that seemed to do it! Great, thanks!
[10:02] <angasule> what's a simple ftp server? just need it as a replacement to SMB
[10:02] <Ace2016> we should change why to wii
[10:02] <jamesb_> PCM was muted and the volume was set to zero
[10:02] <snowice> jamesb_, no prob :-)
[10:02] <omicron> pureftpd
[10:02] <cloakable> ds_: Try just installing Linux? That should do it.
[10:02] <jamesb_> what is PCM?
[10:03] <ds_> I did, and mounted the NTFS, too...Now, I just kind of want the NTFS to actually boot Windows, and not run info off Linux
[10:04] <ds_> Wait, do you mean there is an  option
[10:04] <ds_> If I were to try and reinstall Linux, that says dual boot?
[10:04] <entraks> did you install grub ?
[10:04] <SupremeBeing> You mean you want Windows to be the default in the GRUB?
[10:04] <snowice> jamesb_, I'm not sure if you want to know, it's "Pulse Code Modulation", a way to store audio.
[10:04] <ds_> Not a default, but an option
[10:04] <ds_> I don't think I have GRUB, I've only heard it's name...don't know what it is
[10:05] <entraks> GRUB permit to choose the os u want to boot
[10:05] <Xal2> Hi
[10:05] <Xal2> I'm trying to install ventrilo, but apparently I need ia32-libs
[10:05] <Xal2> that isn't in the repos though.
[10:05] <ds_> How do I get it, entraks?
[10:06] <Xal2> ldd ./ventrilo_srv
[10:06] <Xal2> /usr/bin/ldd: line 161: /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: cannot execute binary file
[10:06] <Xal2> not a dynamic executable
[10:06] <SupremeBeing> it's installed when you install Kubuntu ds
[10:06] <Xal2> I get that error.
[10:06] <ds_> Hm, how do I enable it, or use it
[10:06] <entraks> u can download (google is your friend). i use kubuntu and GRUB was install auto
[10:06] <SupremeBeing> ds_: yeah it should be auto installed with kubuntu
[10:07] <jamesb_> Xal2: what does "file  /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2" say? Do you have a broken sym-link?
[10:07] <LeeJunFan> !chroot Xal2
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chroot Xal2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <LeeJunFan> !chroot | Xal2
[10:07] <ubotu> Xal2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[10:07] <ds_> I use Kubuntu, too - how do I access GRUB?
[10:07] <ds_> If it was auto installed
[10:07] <chitu> Sorry; I disconnected and just came back.  When I run the Adept Updater, it downloads a list of updates, but when I try to apply, I get the following error message: "[title bar]  Could not commit changes; [message text]  There was an error committing changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages." I looked for info on this problem on the Web, and all I could find is that someone with the same problem got
[10:07] <chitu> taken care of by joining #kubuntu. Running the apt-get version of the update from the command line didn't seem to help. Can anyone help me?
[10:07] <SupremeBeing> ds_: it would show up whenever you boot your computer
[10:07] <Xal2> I'll check.
[10:07] <SupremeBeing> !chroot grub
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chroot grub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <jamesb_> linux32 is a 32-bits shell that may help 64/32-bit problems
[10:07] <SupremeBeing> !grub
[10:07] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:07] <ds_> Hm...I'll see if I've got it...I'll check
[10:08] <ds_> Ill be back in a sec if it didnt :)
[10:08] <SupremeBeing> k
[10:08] <entraks> ok
[10:08] <Xal2> Um that's a file with a bunch of code I don't understand.
[10:08] <Xal2> ohnm
[10:09] <SupremeBeing> is kubuntu debian based?
[10:09] <Xal2> misread that
[10:09] <BetaCookies> restarting x, brb
[10:09] <Xal2> symbolic link to ld-2.4.so
[10:09] <jamesb_> SupremeBeing: yes, but it's ubuntu-based first
[10:09] <h3sp4wn> simple question (probably ?) how can I add another global tag to the amarok last.fm stuff
[10:09] <SupremeBeing> jamesb_: of course. thank you
[10:10] <entraks> "is kubuntu debian based ?" > i thought it was a troll. sorry
[10:10] <Xal2> jamesb_: thats what "file /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2" returns
[10:11] <ds_> I'm back
[10:11] <ds_> From the dual boot question
[10:11] <entraks> ds_ yes. and ,
[10:11] <entraks> ?
[10:12] <jamesb_> Xal2: what does "file  /lib64/ld-2.4.so" say then?
[10:12] <ds_> I noticed one thing that said GRUB, and it was in boot, and it loaded but the screen goes away before I can read it all, to know what it is.  There was no chance to select anything
[10:12] <Xal2> ld-2.4.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
[10:12] <tamacracker> does anyone know if there's a PS2 emulator for linux? So you can play your games on Linux?
[10:13] <entraks> you have 9 second to choose your os by default.
[10:13] <jamesb_> Xal2: sorry, I'm not sure how to help you any more
[10:13] <jeisma> why can't i move my libflashplayer.so into my plugins browser directory folder?
[10:13] <Xal2> thanks for the help anyway :)
[10:13] <ds_> What keys are used to choose
[10:13] <ds_> ?
[10:13] <entraks> hum i don't know da name (i'm  french :p)  use the /\ key or \/ key
[10:13] <ds_> Tamacracker- maybe Wine could work for a Windows PS2 Emu...
[10:14] <HymnToLife> jeisma, sudo will help you
[10:14] <ds_> up and down?  Alrighty
[10:14] <entraks> yes right :p
[10:14] <ds_> I will try to do that again
[10:14] <entraks> ok
[10:14] <ds_> Thanks for sticking with me
[10:14] <entraks> don't mention it
[10:14] <jeisma> sudo?
[10:14] <HymnToLife> !sudo
[10:14] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:15] <tamacracker> tru ds
[10:15] <jeisma> well i somewhat understand that
[10:15] <jeisma> but what do i need to do?
[10:15] <jeisma> like what to type
[10:15] <HymnToLife> you need to copy the file using sudo
[10:15] <HymnToLife> sudo cp source destination
[10:15] <Bubba_Gump> spss and linux?
[10:16] <jeisma> so what would that me?
[10:16] <jeisma> the file is libflashplayer.so
[10:16] <jeisma> the destination is usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[10:16] <HymnToLife> then
[10:16] <Bubba_Gump> wine says spss not compatible, any other windows emulators around ?
[10:16] <HymnToLife> sudo cp libflashplugin.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[10:17] <SupremeBeing> darn it, how do you install .run files?
[10:17] <HymnToLife> SupremeBeing, most often :     (sudo) sh /pat/to/file.run
[10:17] <wilman> when i try loading adept updates, after i filled in my password it crashes
[10:17] <SupremeBeing> HymnToLife: aha let me try that
[10:18] <HymnToLife> wilman, good oportunity to learn using apt-get from the CLI :)
[10:18] <SupremeBeing> ahh it work =)
[10:18] <wilman> hmm yea
[10:18] <wilman> how does that work?
[10:18] <Bubba_Gump> !windows
[10:18] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:18] <wilman> oh and i have another problem
[10:19] <SupremeBeing> HymnToLife: Thanks so much, got video card to  install drivers now =D =D
[10:19] <wilman> my terminal wont work
[10:19] <Bubba_Gump> any other windows emulators apart from wine?
[10:19] <HymnToLife> that's bad
[10:19] <SupremeBeing> for gaming there's cedega
[10:19] <HymnToLife> VMWare :)
[10:19] <ds_> I'm back
[10:19] <entraks> ds_ so ?
[10:19] <ds_> Turns out I didn't have Windows on the Slave...just Windows materials
[10:20] <ds_> So, nwo I have to figure out how to install windows on the slave only ?:S
[10:20] <HymnToLife> ds_, just to be sure, unplug the Ubuntu drive when you install Win
[10:20] <HymnToLife> dut having both OSes on the same drive is easier to manage
[10:20] <ds_> How come, curiously?
[10:21] <HymnToLife> but*
[10:21] <ds_> See, here's my deal:
[10:21] <ds_> I want Linux for everything but my games
[10:21] <ds_> What is the best way to go about that?
[10:21] <eilker> ds_: try for vmware
[10:21] <BetaCookies> Hey
[10:21] <HymnToLife> install Windows, shrink the NTFS, install Ubuntu in the free space, enjoy :)
[10:22] <Kervan> Hello how can i install htsearch
[10:22] <BetaCookies> I have used "ati" and "radeon" drivers, but I only get 800x600 resolution unless I use fglrx.. Any ideas?
[10:22] <ds_> Is there anyway not to reinstall Kubuntu, and just 'tack' on Windows?
[10:22] <SupremeBeing> tack?
[10:23] <ds_> For instance - I run CDROM from boot, I install Windows to over my slave, and then goto GRUB in Linux bootup, and select other OS?
[10:24] <Kervan> j ubuntu
[10:24] <SupremeBeing> you can't install windows after kubuntu and still dual boot if that's what you mean
[10:24] <ironfroggy> anyone here using Flash 9?
[10:24] <SupremeBeing> it overwrites the bootloader
[10:24] <ds_> Damnit
[10:24] <SidToner> hello
[10:24] <ironfroggy> just reinstall the bootloader afterwards. not a big deal.
[10:25] <HymnToLife> SupremeBeing, then all he nedds is to reinstall GRUB afterwards :)
[10:25] <HymnToLife> pwn3d :(
[10:25] <entraks> :p it's more easier to install windows before and then linux
[10:25] <SidToner> can someone please point me to a how to on how to get other installed hard drives to show up in /media?
[10:25] <SupremeBeing> HymnToLife: whoopsie, =) shouldn't be answering questions :P
[10:25] <SupremeBeing> HymnToLife: lol
[10:25] <HymnToLife> entraks, if Linux is already installed, it sounds like a waste of time
[10:25] <ironfroggy> anyway im trying to find out why flash apps seem to have such jittery video on my one box (but only that box). any thoughts?
[10:25] <entraks> yes you right
[10:25] <ds_> Man...I wish I could install Windows afterwards
[10:26] <ds_> So, how to I reinstall bootloader
[10:26] <ds_> After Windows is on my slave
[10:26] <ironfroggy> HymnToLife: to watch Adult Swim Fix easily and play Oblivion?
[10:26] <SupremeBeing> !grub
[10:26] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:26] <ds_> Nifty :P
[10:26] <ds_> Ill read that
[10:26] <ironfroggy> ds_: use an alternative install CD and run the rescue mode.
[10:27] <jeisma> i've downloaded the windows codecs, some totemfirefox plugin thing, and then moved libflashplayer.so to my plugins folders and i sill can't watch videos on yahoo?
[10:27] <SidToner> i have 3 hard drives installed in this pc... and i want to get them to show up in /media are there any how to docs to help me with this?
[10:28] <ironfroggy> are they in fstab?
[10:28] <SidToner> no... i know that is part of the problem
[10:29] <ironfroggy> so... do that
[10:29] <SidToner> i however have no idea how to fix it
[10:29] <SidToner> do what?
[10:29] <ironfroggy> read the docs on fstab?
[10:29] <ironfroggy> add them to fstab
[10:29] <SidToner> anyway
[10:29] <ds_> It won't erase my data if I do rescue, and repartition, so long as I don't format, right?
[10:29] <BetaCookies> I have used "ati" and "radeon" drivers, but I only get 800x600 resolution unless I use fglrx.. Any ideas?
[10:30] <ironfroggy> dont repartition
[10:30] <SidToner> i was looking to see if anyone knew of a howto doc that would help out with this
[10:30] <ironfroggy> just reinstall grub
[10:30] <ironfroggy> SidToner: just read the fstab manual
[10:30] <cpk1> SidToner: yo can just make a folder in /media and then mount them to that folder
[10:30] <ironfroggy> `man fstab`
[10:31] <ds_> So, install Windows to slave - then boot Ubuntu, rescue - install Grub, and thats all?
[10:32] <ironfroggy> yup. you might have to add windows to the grub configuration after that. not usre.
[10:32] <uyusuk> slm herkese
[10:32] <xevil> SidToner: do any of your drives show up in /media ?
[10:35] <sstchur> Anyone know why KNetworkManager only seems to work randomly for me?  It will be fine one time, and then the next time I try it, it fails (with the same settings that worked before), and it seems to fail more often than succeed
[10:35] <titular> hola
[10:36] <titular> hola, podran decirme en dnde me encuentro?
[10:36] <SupremeBeing> anyone available to help with sound card problems
[10:38] <Kervan> i am using hplib 0.9 how can i install with apt-get to 1.6
[10:38] <SupremeBeing> nevermind =D i got it
[10:38] <Kervan> sorry hplip
[10:42] <shanky> hi, I have just installed edgy, what is the package to change the language of the menus?
[10:46] <chitu> I finally found the solution to my earlier question at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=252922
[10:47] <eilker> !aix
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <adz21c> Hi, I seem to be getting poor graphics performance on Edgy Eft, any idea what could cause this? I have the nvidia driver installed.
[10:49] <Bubba_Gump> shanky: press alt-F2 and type kcontrol then press enter. in the new window navigate to regional & accessibility and then click 'country/reigion & language'. then 'add language'
[10:50] <Bubba_Gump> shanky: you may need to change the country to suit
[10:53] <shanky> Bubba_Gump: I know that
[10:53] <shanky> the problem was taht I had not installed my kde-i18n
[10:54] <shanky> thanks anyway
[10:54] <eloquence_> anybody have experience installing intel wireless lan drivers on kubuntu?
[10:54] <Bubba_Gump> np :)
[10:56] <xtavaresx> !kfrb
[10:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kfrb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:56] <cloakable> !kwlan
[10:56] <ubotu> kwlan: wpasupplicant frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.8-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 143 kB, installed size 580 kB
[10:56] <cloakable> Hmm.
[10:56] <xtavaresx> !krfb
[10:56] <ubotu> krfb: Desktop Sharing for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 921 kB, installed size 1644 kB
[10:58] <mkst> need help for iptables
[10:58] <xtavaresx> krfb always crashes for me, i have read that x11vnc is more stable. opinions?
[10:58] <cloakable> Does snyone know how to get Kwlan to list broadcom under the supported drivers?
[10:59] <xtavaresx> cloakable, i think i saw something in the gentoo forums about broadcom/wlan
[10:59] <cloakable> xtavaresx: :)
[10:59] <cloakable> xtavaresx: What did you see?
[11:00] <xtavaresx> my flatmate uses gentoo and had problems with broadcom chipset and wlan,
[11:00] <xtavaresx> and he found a solution from just a search of the gentoo forums, sorry, thats all i know.
[11:00] <angasule> how can I install the manpages when I install a -dev package? I can't find at all the manpages for SDL, for one, also the OpenGL manpages would be nice
[11:00] <heinkel_111> does anyone know if it is possible to disable xrandr?
[11:00] <xtavaresx> he got it working by the way, in gentoo, then in kubuntu after i got him to switch over.
[11:02] <felipe__> whats the equivalent of gnome desklets for kde?
[11:02] <adept_x> i am the person formerly known as xtavaresx
[11:02] <heinkel_111> felipe__: you may be thinking of superkaramba
[11:03] <heinkel_111> althoug, i admit i have no idea what gnome desklets really uis
[11:03] <heinkel_111> is
[11:03] <heinkel_111> :P
[11:04] <adept_x> !x11vnc
[11:04] <ubotu> x11vnc: VNC server which uses your current X11 session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 438 kB, installed size 1104 kB
[11:06] <eloquence_> can somebody help me with a fresh kubuntu install?
[11:06] <eloquence_> my mp3's wont play
[11:06] <eloquence_> it ends the play before beginning
[11:07] <eloquence_> and how do i update my computer?
[11:07] <angasule> eloquence_: you have dapper drake?
[11:07] <angasule> !mp3
[11:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:07] <eloquence_> yea i guess
[11:07] <eloquence_> Kubuntu 6.06
[11:08] <bubu1uk> !upgrade
[11:08] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[11:08] <SupremeBeing> How does one go about compiling the source for GAIM?
[11:09] <eloquence_> i had the same problem in ubuntu
[11:09] <eloquence_> until i installed xmms
[11:09] <SupremeBeing> as me?
[11:09] <eloquence_> but i dont see it in the adept thingy
[11:09] <SupremeBeing> yeah
[11:09] <angasule> SupremeBeing: why would you want to do that?
[11:09] <SupremeBeing> angasule: I only found .rpms for it
[11:09] <robotgeek> !compile > SupremeBeing
[11:09] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: it is in the repository
[11:10] <SupremeBeing> Really?
[11:10] <bubu1uk> !universe
[11:10] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:10] <angasule> !adept
[11:10] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[11:10] <SupremeBeing> I saw a bunch of plugins
[11:10] <SupremeBeing> not the actual program
[11:11] <eloquence_> doesn't kubuntu have an update manager thing like ubuntu
[11:11] <angasule> SupremeBeing: look again, if the plugins are there, the program has to be there as well
[11:11] <SupremeBeing> yes,   adept
[11:11] <robotgeek> eloquence_: it has adept
[11:12] <SupremeBeing> angasule: ok, I will.
[11:12] <eloquence_> ok
[11:12] <adz21c> Hey, I am running Edgy 6.10 amd64. When I first log in to KDE all my colours look like they are on a low setting (i.e. like 16it colours), however soon as I run glxgears, everything looks normal (24bit) till I reboot. Any ideas why this could be and how I could fix it? I have also noticed that my gfx card (nv FX5900) can't seem to run a game that my other PC (geforce 2 Pro) runs quite nicely.... any ideas?
[11:12] <malik_> hi there ......can any one tell me how to make konqueror close tab with middle click?............coz the command "about:config" is not working with konqueror
[11:13] <robotgeek> malik_: about:config works for firefox, not on konqueror
[11:13] <malik_> okie so how do i go abt it?
[11:13] <robotgeek> malik_: maybe check Tools -> Configure Konqueror, not sure if that option exists
[11:14] <bluch> how can i manualy mount my usb devices?
[11:14] <SupremeBeing> angasule: there's a list, but they all appear to be plugins
[11:14] <eloquence_> umm if i dont have make what do i do?
[11:14] <angasule> SupremeBeing: if you type 'gaim' in the search, what is the first item on the list called?
[11:14] <eloquence_> in synaptic in ubuntu i could add it .. the compiler and make was easy to install
[11:15] <eloquence_> how do i do it in kubuntu?
[11:15] <SupremeBeing> angasule: gaim-autoprofile
[11:15] <gnomefreak> eloquence_: install build-essential
[11:15] <gnomefreak> eloquence_: it includes make
[11:15] <SupremeBeing> angasule: AutoProfile is an extension to Gaim...
[11:15] <malik_> hi there ......can any one tell me how to make konqueror close tab with middle click?.....
[11:15] <angasule> SupremeBeing: yes, it's odd
[11:15] <eloquence_> from where gnomefreak?
[11:15] <adam> everytime i try and run kdesu i just get "su returned with an error", Its only recently started doing this, before i could do it with no problems
[11:15] <angasule> SupremeBeing: very odd
[11:16] <SupremeBeing> angasule: what should i do?
[11:16] <z0d_> how to login at the KDE as root ?
[11:16] <gnomefreak> eloquence_: from apt-get or synaptic or adept or where you like
[11:16] <angasule> SupremeBeing: well, I'm unsure
[11:16] <z0d_> how to login at the KDE as root ?
[11:16] <SupremeBeing> angasule: I don't really understand compiling from source,
[11:16] <eloquence_> there is synaptic in kubuntu?
[11:17] <SupremeBeing> z0d_: you don't, use the sudo command in the terminal
[11:17] <angasule> z0d_: why would you do that? just use `kdesu <program>` to run <program> as root
[11:17] <SupremeBeing> kdesu?
[11:17] <SupremeBeing> =o
[11:17] <adam> i do
[11:17] <excitatory> adam: you're a fool
[11:17] <adam> "kdesu konqueror" and such
[11:17] <SupremeBeing> eloquence_: i believe it's equivalent is adept (package manager)
[11:17] <adam> but it just stopped working
[11:17] <SupremeBeing> ah =)
[11:17] <z0d_> angasule: cuz' i gotta "su root" every time i start the terminal
[11:17] <angasule> SupremeBeing: try installing gaim-data
[11:18] <SupremeBeing> eloquence_: don't see that one either =(
[11:18] <adam> now every time i run anything with kdesu i just get "su returned with an error"
[11:18] <SupremeBeing> eloquence_: sry not you
[11:18] <SupremeBeing> angasule: don't see that one either =(
[11:18] <eloquence_> i wish adept would let me install synaptic
[11:18] <robotgeek> excitatory: it does
[11:18] <SupremeBeing> eloquence_: isn't synaptic Gnome?
[11:19] <gnomefreak> SupremeBeing: yes
[11:19] <gnomefreak> eloquence_: it will
[11:19] <angasule> z0d_: why are you using root so much? you shouldn't use root unless absolutely necessary
[11:19] <eloquence_> it has it shaded out
[11:19] <angasule> !root
[11:19] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:19] <eloquence_> in the programs list
[11:19] <eloquence_> because i was able to install adept when i was in ubuntu though ubuntu is gnome
[11:19] <eloquence_> so i believe it should do it the same way around
[11:19] <robotgeek> eloquence_: sure you can
[11:19] <angasule> SupremeBeing: gaim-dev ? check what would be installed if you selected a gaim plugin, it should also install gaim
[11:20] <adam> I have to use root to start adept package manager
[11:20] <eloquence_> from where?
[11:20] <eloquence_> it has it shaded out
[11:20] <SupremeBeing> angasule: ooh, i'll look
[11:20] <eloquence_> i would also like to refresh the list
[11:20] <T3hWiz0rd> does anyone else here have a problem with power manager in KDE not remembering power settings when you restart X/restart the computer?
[11:20] <SupremeBeing> angasule: don't see gaim dev either by the way
[11:21] <SupremeBeing> angasule: now it says "BREAK(install)"
[11:21] <SupremeBeing> angasule: next to "no change" :/
[11:21] <angasule> SupremeBeing: oh, something is really wrong :?
[11:21] <angasule> SupremeBeing: what architecture are you on?
[11:21] <SupremeBeing> angasule: x86
[11:21] <eloquence_> bah
[11:21] <eloquence_> ubuntu was easier
[11:21] <robotgeek> angasule: not root, type youe use password
[11:21] <eloquence_> kubuntu is cooler
[11:22] <robotgeek> angasule: sorry, that was meant for adam
[11:22] <robotgeek> adam: not root, type youe user password
[11:22] <angasule> SupremeBeing: try asking in #ubuntu , it's very odd, I don't know what's going on
[11:22] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: dpkg --audit
[11:22] <SupremeBeing> angasule: roger
[11:23] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: hmm?
[11:23] <adam> huh? i don't get that far, everytime i try kdesu then a program i just a window open with "su returned an error"
[11:23] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: type that in a terminal, and paste the output
[11:23] <Joel-Wideman> Hello. How do I set time restrictions on local logins, per user?
[11:23] <eloquence_> bah
[11:23] <robotgeek> adam: did you enable root user?
[11:23] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: dkpg: command not found
[11:23] <eloquence_> it shows absolutely no updates for kubuntu
[11:23] <Joel-Wideman> I tried using /etc/security/time.conf but that didn't do anything at all
[11:24] <eloquence_> yet i have the same version in ubuntu and it had mad updates
[11:24] <adam> is that just for logging in a root, anyway it used to work but then stopped a few hours ago :S
[11:24] <adam> isn't*
[11:24] <robotgeek> adam: again, did you enable root account? (if so, why?)
[11:24] <eloquence_> and the Full Update button is shaded out
[11:25] <eloquence_> i am sure it is reading my internet connection
[11:25] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: is that bad?
[11:25] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: yes, it breaks all gui apps
[11:25] <BetaCookies> Hey
[11:25] <robotgeek> and to be honest, it is not necessary
[11:25] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: what?
[11:25] <eloquence_> there must be a catch
[11:25] <adam> yeah i did
[11:26] <eloquence_> how can there not be ONE update on a fresh install
[11:26] <eloquence_> ???????????
[11:26] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: enabling the root account, i.e
[11:26] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: no no I mean the command not found thing for dkpg
[11:27] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: sudo dpkg --audit , it has to be there
[11:27] <excitatory> eloquence_: perhaps not in the repositories that you have enabled there's not..
[11:27] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: typed it verbatem
[11:27] <Joel-Wideman> How do I set time restrictions on local logins, per user?
[11:27] <Joel-Wideman> I tried using /etc/security/time.conf but that didn't do anything at all
[11:27] <malik_> okie can any one tell if the tabs in kongueror can closed with a middle click or not?
[11:27] <cloakable> Is there an easy way to get WPA networking with the broadcom driver? Or any way?
[11:28] <robotgeek> Joel-Wideman: maybe ask in #ubuntu too
[11:28] <doobledilly> hi guys, im having some trouble with the sound in kubuntu, it has a lot of static no matter whats running, system sounds/music/videos etc
[11:28] <doobledilly> http://pastebin.us/9254
[11:28] <eloquence_> oh ok
[11:28] <doobledilly> would that be the correct driver for ac97 onboard cards
[11:28] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: that command for sure 100% does  nothing
[11:28] <eloquence_> thats strange
[11:28] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: that is impossible, if you are running a debian system :)
[11:28] <eloquence_> real strange
[11:28] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: as long as it does not error out, you are fine
[11:28] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: sudo dkpg --audit
[11:29] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: sudo: dkpg: command not found
[11:29] <Joel-Wideman> robotgeek, i figure it's the kde login that i have to do something with, though i'm guesing
[11:29] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: dpkg, not dkpg
[11:29] <doobledilly> oops i mean is that the right device heh
[11:30] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: aha my mistake
[11:30] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: ok, no error message
[11:30] <eloquence_> thanks excitatory
[11:30] <adam> so does anyone know kdesu may have just stopped working when a few hours ago it was fine?
[11:30] <eloquence_> it had NONE of the repositories enabled
[11:30] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: try installing whatever you were installing from the cli, usinf apt-get
[11:31] <robotgeek> adam: if you enable root account, it will not work!
[11:31] <eloquence_> sorry guys for being so negative but there's a huge difference between an out of the box install of ubuntu and kubuntu
[11:31] <Launchpad> is there anything like disk management in kubuntu?
[11:32] <adam> but it was working before, and i can't actually check is root is enabled or not
[11:32] <robotgeek> Launchpad: there is an option in System Settings, Disks and filesystems
[11:32] <robotgeek> adam: you said you enabled login as root, right?
[11:32] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: i tried to get the source packages: - error - package cdbs has no installation candidate - failed to satisfy build-depends...
[11:32] <Launchpad> i dont see a disk and filesystems in system
[11:33] <adam> do you mean grafical root login or just the enable/disable radio buttons in the kde user manager?
[11:34] <brohism> I'm trying to configure my display settings, but the Monitor & Display sections of System Settings won't let me apply changes
[11:34] <brohism> and i'm in administrator mode
[11:35] <robotgeek> adam: to enable graphical root login, i would suppose that you would need to enable root account. i am not sure, i have not done it before :P
[11:35] <Launchpad> hmm+
[11:35] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: not sure, but why are you looking for cdbs anyways?
[11:35] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: because I haven't had luck with the  adept... that's my first choice.
[11:36] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: it's just not in the list.  argh.
[11:36] <adam> I've done that before but on a different system, this one I've only switched the silly radio buttons in kcontrol's user manager
[11:36] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: okay, what are you trying to install?
[11:36] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: GAIM
[11:36] <adam> but it was working after i'd applyed it
[11:37] <adam> it stopped working some time after that occured
[11:37] <eloquence_> anybody run kubuntu on an HP Laptop?
[11:37] <doobledilly> eloquence_:  yes
[11:37] <doobledilly> dv1315cl
[11:37] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: doesn't "sudo apt-get install gaim" work?
[11:38] <adam> i can't get kcontrol, adept packagemanager, or konqueror as root anymore using kdesu
[11:38] <eloquence_> doobledilly: what kind of wireless lan card does it use?
[11:38] <doobledilly> intel 2200bg
[11:38] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: error: package gaim is not available...package gaim has no installation candidate
[11:38] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: can you paste your sources.list to the pastebin
[11:38] <Joel-Wideman> How do I set time restrictions on local logins, per user?
[11:39] <malik_> okie i figured it out ......thanx guyz
[11:39] <eloquence_> oh ok
[11:39] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: where's it located?
[11:39] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:39] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: k, 1 second
[11:39] <eloquence_> did u install the 2200 drivers? (meaning did u have to go through the installing ieee80211 subsystem)?
[11:40] <doobledilly> no but the gui wireless stuff didnt work, had to use iwconfig
[11:40] <robotgeek> doobledilly: even kknetworkmanager?
[11:40] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: http://pastebin.ca/265009
[11:41] <adam> robotgeek: I've detup graphical root before but on a different system, this one I've only switched the silly radio buttons in kcontrol's user manager
[11:41] <eloquence_> does .run packages work in Kubuntu? http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8762.html
[11:41] <doobledilly> the only two gui's i tried to set it up in was network settings in settings and the wireless lan assistent
[11:41] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: have you ever edited this file by hand? anyways, your first sources.list is commented out
[11:42] <doobledilly> didnt try kknetworkmanager, i dont think
[11:42] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: no I haven, should I enable more of them?
[11:42] <intelikey> what file is causing this error?  * Starting basic networking...
[11:42] <doobledilly> just seemed easier to put an iwconfig line in rc.d
[11:42] <intelikey> ifup: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Read-only file system [error] 
[11:42] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: yes, the first line which has main etc
[11:42] <eloquence_> well i mean the intel drivers as they have on the ipw****.sourceforge.net sites
[11:42] <robotgeek> intelikey: i would assume /etc/init.d/networking
[11:43] <eloquence_> cuz mine is an ipw3945
[11:43] <intelikey> robotgeek i did too but there is no mention of /var/run/network  in it ???
[11:43] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: I don't see main etc the top line fo rme is main restricted
[11:43] <robotgeek> intelikey: i think ifup reads that
[11:43] <eloquence_> and i wann ahave the right drivers so i can add some abilities to my wireless card to try to bypass some stuff here since i cant find many nice broadband connections in saudi (where i live right now)
[11:44] <Launchpad> Anyone here experienced with 6.10 kubuntu.. i need alittle help if yall can
[11:44] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted  << this line,
[11:44] <Launchpad> Im trying to find away to format my ntfs drives on my computer but i cant find away to them thru kubuntu
[11:44] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: ok that's enabled
[11:44] <intelikey> robotgeek then the only cure would be to change the order so that networking runs after mountall.sh
[11:45] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: you should be all fine now
[11:45] <Launchpad> anyone know how to?
[11:45] <robotgeek> intelikey: isn't the new upstart supposed to allow you to do that?
[11:45] <_doppelganger_> !katapult
[11:45] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[11:45] <intelikey> which will error out the mountall cause it expects networking to be up
[11:45] <intelikey> robotgeek on dapper ?
[11:46] <robotgeek> intelikey: yessir
[11:46] <flaccid> i don't see what the point of katapult is
[11:46] <intelikey> why would i use upstart on dapper ?
[11:46] <robotgeek> intelikey: i tht you were on edgy :)
[11:46] <eloquence_> u ever have problems with any other devices in your laptop intelikey?
[11:46] <_doppelganger_> i did an apt-get upgrade beryl and that's what it installed
[11:46] <eloquence_> sorry that last ? was for doobledilly
[11:46] <robotgeek> flaccid: iit helps you pull up file/applications facster
[11:47] <robotgeek> faster, err
[11:47] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: Whenever I enable the repository and go back to the search, it disables itself
[11:47] <Joel-Wideman> faster than what, finding them on a menu?
[11:47] <_doppelganger_> is upgrade the proper syntax for apt-get to upgrade preexisting things?
[11:47] <_doppelganger_> sorry for my newbness
[11:47] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: i think you have an issue with gpg keys
[11:47] <Joel-Wideman> if i wanted to type, i wouldn't use a gui - just saying :D
[11:48] <robotgeek> Joel-Wideman: i mean, i know a file foo.txt is in ~, but if i just want to open it, its faster. and its cli :)
[11:48] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: *schwoop* over my head ;)
[11:48] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: okay, open up a console
[11:48] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: done
[11:48] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:48] <brohism> why would the System Settings panel not let me apply changes to my display settings?
[11:49] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: done
[11:49] <intelikey> konsole != console     konsole = terminal emulator
[11:49] <Joel-Wideman> robotgeek, so you type vi ~/foo.txt and it opens a konsole?
[11:49] <flaccid> robotgeek: i don't see how
[11:49] <doobledilly> eloquence_:  not normally no. i dont really know much about linux
[11:49] <robotgeek> Joel-Wideman: hmm, i think that is a good feature to implement :). it opens up foo.txt in kate
[11:50] <eloquence_> ok then me and u r in the same boat
[11:50] <Joel-Wideman> oh
[11:50] <doobledilly> hehe
[11:50] <robotgeek> flaccid: its faster than K--Menu -> Internet -> Kopete, for sure
[11:50] <eloquence_> i aint got no paddle though
[11:51] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: then uncomment that line again.
[11:51] <angasule> how do I install the manual pages for OpenGL and SDL? I don't see any packages for them
[11:51] <robotgeek> angasule: might be -doc pages too
[11:51] <flaccid> not as fast as ctrl + f2, type kopete, press enter
[11:52] <robotgeek> flaccid: i dont even have to type kopete completely :)
[11:52] <flaccid> robotgeek: um so how do i use it again?
[11:53] <robotgeek> flaccid: alt + f2, katapult should launch it. then alt + space should bring it up
[11:53] <intelikey> so what are you fellas scussing there ?     a mini-command line on a pannel or what ?
[11:53] <robotgeek> intelikey: no, katapult
[11:54] <angasule> does katapult have some intentional delay?
[11:54] <eloquence_> anybody know any other repositories than the ones already installed with a fresh kubuntu install ?
[11:54] <flaccid> alt + space does jack all
[11:54] <intelikey> robotgeek which is what exactly ?
[11:54] <robotgeek> flaccid: maybe its ctrl + space
[11:54] <flaccid> nope
[11:54] <angasule> alt+space should bring up katapult
[11:54] <robotgeek> intelikey: right now, all it does is index and launch gui programs
[11:54] <flaccid> how crap
[11:54] <flaccid> it doesn't
[11:55] <BetaCookies> what is katapult?
[11:55] <robotgeek> !katapult
[11:55] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[11:55] <flaccid> for me its the equiv of clicking on top right of window and getting drop down
[11:55] <robotgeek> flaccid: if you have remapped your keys, you can hardly blame katapult for it :)
[11:55] <Joel-Wideman> robotgeek, wouldnt it make more sense to launch files from konqueror?
[11:55] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: I fixed the repository, still can't find the correct package
[11:55] <flaccid> i think its a bad idea for an app to advise a shortcut key if something else is using it
[11:55] <flaccid> i aint remapped keys
[11:56] <robotgeek> SupremeBeing: no, type sudo apt-get update first
[11:56] <flaccid> well you can blame it
[11:56] <robotgeek> flaccid: by default, it uses alt + space and no other kubuntu app uses it
[11:56] <flaccid> people have made custom key maps before katapult comes out, it comes out and asks people to use alt + space, but its not available
[11:56] <intelikey> Description: item launcher for KDE  Katapult is an application, which analyses text-based queries to launch items, such as bookmarks, directories or programs.   The application is currently in an early stage of development but the launchable item list can be extended by a plugin system, and the look and feel can be skinned.    Homepage: http://www.thekatapult.org.uk
[11:57] <DaSkreech> katapult rocks!!
[11:57] <SupremeBeing> robotgeek: Wonderful! Thank you so much!
[11:57] <intelikey> sounds like a windows-alike-wannabee
[11:57] <robotgeek> intelikey: more like a quicksilver wannabe
[11:57] <Joel-Wideman> Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the point of launching a cli in order to launch a gui program
[11:58] <robotgeek> Joel-Wideman: its not cli, really
[11:58] <DaSkreech> Joel-Wideman: Why would you do that?
[11:58] <DaSkreech> !lvm
[11:58] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[11:58] <flaccid> welll alt+space is not being used by any shortcuts
[11:59] <Joel-Wideman> DaSkreech, exactly
[11:59] <DaSkreech> Joel-Wideman: Not not philosphically. Where have you had to load a CLI (not counting Alt+F2) to launch a gui program?
[12:00] <DaSkreech> if I apt-get lvm2 on the live CD I should be good to go to play with lvm hard drives right?
[12:00] <robotgeek> flaccid: you can right click from system tray and change if, if you prefer
[12:00] <angasule> dammit, what does kubuntu have against manpages? :(
[12:00] <flaccid> heh stupid kde. nothing assigned to alt + space
[12:00] <Joel-Wideman> maybe I misunderstand katapult, but that sounds exactly like what it is - a cli
[12:00] <eloquence_> 
[12:00] <flaccid> robotgeek: i don't have any icon there for katapult, but it is in memory still
[12:00] <robotgeek> Joel-Wideman: its a gui app, so there is no terminal
[12:00] <DaSkreech> Joel-Wideman: It's a launcher. of sorts
[12:01] <Joel-Wideman> I get that. But you type the filename, right?
[12:01] <DaSkreech> Joel-Wideman: it's really a collection of databases which allows you to choose one itme quickly. guifeid
[12:01] <DaSkreech> Joel-Wideman: Yeah
[12:01] <angasule> great, kubuntu ate my CD, it won't eject
[12:01] <Joel-Wideman> Well, thereyago
[12:01] <robotgeek> Joel-Wideman: not complete path, again
[12:01] <DaSkreech> Joel-Wideman: it's the name of whatever is in the K-Menu
[12:02] <BetaCookies> I need a decent nVidia or ATi graphics card that works with beryl, any suggestions?
[12:02] <Joel-Wideman> ...
[12:02] <DaSkreech> Plus like dictionary definitions and number calculations etc
[12:02] <robotgeek> Joel-Wideman: just try it, you will see the difference :)
[12:02] <angasule> how do I check who is using the CD? it says 'device busy', but no program is using it
[12:02] <Joel-Wideman> So instead of clicking on the menu item, I type the name?!?
[12:02] <robotgeek> angasule: lsof /media/cdromX
[12:02] <robotgeek> Joel-Wideman: yes, can be pretty useful if you are lazy enough :)
[12:02] <DaSkreech> Joel-Wideman: if you want to scroll the entire dictionary of whatever language you speak you are free to do so if you like, I like typing exactly waht I want :)
[12:03] <SupremeBeing> what's the command to run to update from 6.0.6?
[12:03] <DaSkreech> Joel-Wideman: Right. It's way faster
[12:03] <DaSkreech> SupremeBeing: sudo apt-get update
[12:03] <angasule> robotgeek: it says konqueror is using it, but I closed those tabs...
[12:03] <SupremeBeing> DaSkreech: thanks
[12:03] <Joel-Wideman> Yes, I can see how it would be faster...
[12:03] <eloquence_> is hacking into wireless networks for the sole purpose of using their broadband connection wrong?
[12:03] <Joel-Wideman> But it sure as hell isn't lazier
[12:03] <SupremeBeing> eloquence_: yes =)
[12:03] <angasule> eloquence_: yes
[12:04] <eloquence_> damn
[12:04] <DaSkreech> Joel-Wideman: unless you keep your mouse in your lap I think it is
[12:04] <Joel-Wideman> I don't like to type if I can avoid it.
[12:04] <SupremeBeing> eloquence_: it's fairly inconvinient also, right?
[12:04] <eloquence_> what about if u r in need?
[12:04] <angasule> eloquence_: but if they are unsecured networks, it isn't hacking, and if they offer DHCP they're actually offering it, I'd say
[12:04] <Joel-Wideman> which is the point of a gui, yes?
[12:04] <DaSkreech> eloquence_: Then you go and ask
[12:04] <eloquence_> what if there is nobody to ask?
[12:04] <angasule> Joel-Wideman: katapult is faster and easier than menu-hunting, *that* is what matters to me :)
[12:04] <DaSkreech> Joel-Wideman: yeah. We have nothing against the K-menu
[12:05] <eloquence_> like here in saudi very few ppl have wireless broadband installed
[12:05] <DaSkreech> Just letting you know about opttions
[12:05] <Joel-Wideman> it sounds like it would be an awesome thing to have access to on a command line.
[12:05] <eloquence_> mostly businesses
[12:05] <eloquence_> or cafes
[12:05] <DaSkreech> Joel-Wideman: What the K-Menu? :)
[12:05] <Joel-Wideman> No, katapult
[12:05] <Asz_Confused> Hi guys, can anyone give me some guidance on how the hell to get .ape files working with amarok?
[12:05] <robotgeek> Joel-Wideman: yes, its called cdpath :)
[12:05] <angasule> help! konqueror ate my CD :(
[12:05] <DaSkreech> Joel-Wideman: You don't have it installed?
[12:05] <robotgeek> angasule: lsod /media/cdrom
[12:05] <robotgeek> lsof, err
[12:06] <DaSkreech> Asz_Confused: Woah ape. they still have those
[12:06] <SupremeBeing> to install .deb files, I type what?
[12:06] <DaSkreech> angasule: type eject on the command line
[12:06] <Asz_Confused> :D
[12:06] <DaSkreech> SupremeBeing: sudo dpkg -i <deb>
[12:06] <angasule> DaSkreech: it says it's busy (and lsof says it's konqueror's fault), I believe it's a common bug, I've seen other people in my LUG complain about it
[12:06] <Asz_Confused> a way to play ape or a way to convert them to flac, either would be great
[12:06] <SupremeBeing> DaSkreech: Thanks again!
[12:06] <DaSkreech> angasule: killall konqueror
[12:06] <Asz_Confused> both would be better :)
[12:07] <angasule> DaSkreech: funny
[12:07] <angasule> DaSkreech: I want a fix, not a workaround :P
[12:07] <DaSkreech> Asz_Confused: don't know off the top of my head. Poke someone on #katapult
[12:07] <Joel-Wideman> I've had that happen too, angasule
[12:07] <angasule> I think it's related to KPDF
[12:07] <DaSkreech> Asz_Confused: Doh I mean #amarok
[12:07] <Asz_Confused> will do
[12:08] <eloquence_> my amarok wont even play mp3s
[12:08] <eloquence_> yet in ubuntu xmms was playing them
[12:08] <DaSkreech> !mp3 > eloquence_
[12:08] <DaSkreech> So lvm2 is all I need to mount lvm hard drives in the live Cd?
[12:08] <eloquence_> thanks DaSkreech
[12:08] <TheGateKeeper> eloquence_, use the xine engine & install libxine-extracodecs
[12:08] <eloquence_> ok TheGateKeeper
[12:09] <angasule> please, no one knows how to fix the eaten CD problem?
[12:09] <flaccid> hmm my katapult won't work, yay!!!
[12:09] <DaSkreech> angasule: Never had it soory :-(
[12:09] <flaccid> angasule: try eject cdrom from shell
[12:09] <DaSkreech> konqueror ate it
[12:09] <ColonelPanic001> Hi. I'm running Kubuntu Edgy, and my SD card read (USB) runs great, apps auto-mount it and everything, except that it's read only, despite me having full permissions. Any ideas?
[12:09] <angasule> flaccid: doesn't work, and I want a fix, not a workaround
[12:09] <ColonelPanic001> Most of the forums stuff I'm finding has people that can't mount at all.
[12:10] <DaSkreech> ColonelPanic001: who owns the card when it mounts?
[12:10] <ColonelPanic001> "mike" (me)
[12:10] <ColonelPanic001> According to Konquerer
[12:10] <DaSkreech> and you have write privvys?
[12:10] <flaccid> angasule: haha. there is no fix.
[12:10] <ColonelPanic001> "Owner: Can view & modify content"
[12:10] <ColonelPanic001> yeah
[12:10] <angasule> flaccid: is it a reported bug, do you know?
[12:10] <angasule> !bugs
[12:10] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[12:10] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Gone?
[12:11] <DaSkreech> ColonelPanic001: ha ha I just got your name. that's funny
[12:11] <ColonelPanic001> lol
[12:11] <ColonelPanic001> ;)
[12:11] <angasule> I can't have kubuntu eating my CDs like this
[12:11] <eloquence_> !repository
[12:11] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:11] <ColonelPanic001> angasule: feed it more often.
[12:12] <flaccid> angasule: its normal linux behaviour
[12:12] <eloquence_> does kubuntu run .run packages?
[12:12] <angasule> flaccid: it's not
[12:13] <flaccid> you do mean where you can't eject the cdrom?
[12:13] <flaccid> eloquence_: yes
[12:13] <eloquence_> like this: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8762.html