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FlameMasterhey guys, I recently dled kubuntu edgy amd64, and I'm running it live ATM. I was about to install it, but I'd rather not do the live install. Doesn't this have an alternate installer that doesn't need to boot a live desktop first?12:13
eloquence_so i just click on it and it will install it?12:13
eloquence_how about rpm's?12:13
robotgeek!alien12:13
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)12:13
angasuleflaccid: I right click on the icon, and click on 'eject', or use the command line 'eject cdrom', it says it's busy, lsof says konqueror is using it12:13
ColonelPanic001DaSkreech: no ideas? It seems odd, because except for writing, it seems to be working great, out of the box.12:13
flaccideloquence_: if the file is +x it will run. rpms are possible but not recommended12:13
angasuleflaccid: except konqueror *was* using it, but it no longer is12:14
eloquence_ok cool12:14
red22i have a radeon x1950pro and can't seem to get the video drivers going on edgy.. anyone with x1900 or x1950 get their drivers working pls?12:14
robotgeekangasule: heh, remind konqueror :)12:14
flaccidangasule: yeah sounds normal to me, but yeah its a bug12:14
Joel-WidemanIt is easier to install software by compiling the source than using alien, in my experience12:15
angasuleflaccid: about half my LUG has experienced this bug12:15
DaSkreechFlameMaster: Yes. It's called the alternate Cd12:15
FlameMasterDaSkreech: I have the DVD distro12:15
flaccidangasule: did any of you report the bug?12:15
Croupierhey guys in darts the inside circle is the triple or the outside?12:15
ColonelPanic001outside12:15
BetaCookies[brb]  restarting X12:15
FlameMasterDaSkreech: don't tell me that the DVD release doesn't have an alternate install just as the alternate cd version12:16
DaSkreechCroupier: Outside12:16
ColonelPanic001inside loop is double12:16
angasuleflaccid: I'm looking at the database to see if it has been filed, but it must have been, since it was in dapper already12:16
DaSkreechFlameMaster: Ok I won't :)12:16
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FlameMasterDaSkreech: It doesn't?!12:16
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FlameMaster:(12:16
Joel-Widemanlater12:16
angasuleflaccid: would it be a konqueror bug?12:16
flaccidangasule: well if the bug is reported, you are still expecting people here to present you with a fix even though we are not the developers..12:16
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FlameMasterdoes it?12:16
flaccidangasule: i don't know what bug it would be12:17
angasuleflaccid: I'm unsure if it has been reported, I can't find a similar bug report12:17
DaSkreechword: to your mother12:17
flaccidangasule: cdrom lock is all too common on *nix12:17
Croupierare you sure that the inside is double12:17
ColonelPanic001Alright, well thanks for trying. I'll just kind of poke at my card reader and see what it does.12:17
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robotgeekCroupier: i would suggest google12:17
DaSkreechFlameMaster: as far as I know it doesn't. I could be worng though12:17
Croupierso the outer (big ring) is the triple12:17
DaSkreechColonelPanic001: did you ask in #ubuntu?12:17
DaSkreechCroupier: yes12:18
ColonelPanic001No, but not a bad idea.12:18
flaccidangasule: is the cdrom still mounted ie. comes up in mount ?12:18
FlameMasterDaSkreech: whatever I'm already googling about it :(12:18
angasuleflaccid: this bug is unacceptable, konqueror should have freed it once it was no longer in use12:18
angasuleflaccid: yes12:18
flaccidangasule: then what is an acceptable bug in the open source world?12:18
robotgeekangasule: sure, its a bug. we have given you a worksaround12:18
angasuleflaccid: closing konqueror releases the cdrom12:18
flaccidangasule: then do a lazy unmount of the cdrom drive12:18
eloquence_are there any KDE msn messenger type programs which _allow you to send messages to mobile users and will show mobile users_ ?12:18
robotgeekangasule: please file a bug. there's not much we can do about it12:18
jerroldis kxdocker apt-getable? last time i tried..it wouldnt run :(12:18
flaccidangasule: if no other programs are locking the drive, then report it as a konqueror bug12:18
angasulerobotgeek: I mean it's unacceptable that it got from dapper to edgy12:19
angasuleI'm collecting data, I just ejected the CD and going to reproduce it12:19
robotgeekangasule: regression bugs happen.12:19
flaccidangasule: then wait for the bug to be confirmed and addressed.12:19
intelikeyi'm getting so that i don't like konqueror any more.12:19
robotgeekangasule: i hate it as much as you do, but it exists. and it will go away if you file your bug (hopefully)12:19
flaccidangasule: unacceptable in your opinion12:19
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ColonelPanic001Unacceptable. flaccid, I demand you fix that bug personally.12:20
ColonelPanic001o.o12:20
intelikeythey keep adding more and more "P me off" code to it...  should have left well enough alone, but insted they keep trying to make it a little weller12:20
robotgeekintelikey: heh12:20
flaccidhehe12:20
DaSkreecheloquence_: try amsn12:21
ColonelPanic001Hurry up. I expect a patch in three hours.12:21
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flaccidthere were lots of bugs that went from dapper to edgy12:21
DaSkreechIt helps to keep you on edge12:21
angasuleflaccid: unacceptable as in "my parents can't use edgy in this state" :(12:22
ColonelPanic001heh12:22
flaccidangasule: agreed12:22
angasuleDaSkreech: amsn is proof that msn messenger is not the ugliest IM client :P12:22
flaccidi'd like to know how to make konqueror keep its window position and panel off12:22
DaSkreechangasule: Hey Give MSN points for trying12:22
jerroldi just did an apt-get install kxdocker..and it showed up as a program on..but when i launch it..nothing happens...im also using Beryl as my window manager12:23
flaccideverytime i launch konqueror , its not maximised, has the panel open etc.12:23
RuthHello people!!!12:23
red22yo12:23
ColonelPanic001Hi12:23
DaSkreechRuth: Hi. How's Naomi :)12:23
intelikeyColonelPanic001 expect timeout timedout patch ;send "1\r"12:23
FlameMasterCan I use Ubuntu installer instead of a Live Install on Kubuntu Edgy DVD release (y/n)?12:23
DaSkreechOr not12:23
angasuleflaccid: go to Settings->Save View Profile "something" and then save the profile (look at the checkboxes for WHAT you are saving, though)12:24
DaSkreechFlameMaster: What are the options when you start up?12:24
robotgeekFlameMaster: right click in the frame -> Advanced Window Settings?12:24
FlameMasterDaSkreech: damn, I would have to reboot :S12:24
FlameMasterbrb12:24
FlameMasterrobotgeek: I'll try12:25
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FlameMasterrobotgeek: on the Boot window?12:25
robotgeekFlameMaster: sorry, wrong tab hilight12:25
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FlameMasteroh12:25
robotgeekflaccid: sorry, wrong tab hilight12:25
flaccidangasule: ah thanks for that! never used to have to do that12:25
robotgeekcrap!12:25
robotgeekflaccid: : right click in the frame -> Advanced Window Settings?12:25
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flaccidthe save profile did it12:26
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robotgeekcool12:26
angasuleflaccid: be advised, you'll have to do it for the File manager profile, and for the Web profile12:26
flaccidmaybe it used to auto save the profile ,but not anymore12:26
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flaccidah ok12:26
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flaccidanyone here use knocker?12:27
angasulehmm, I'm finding lots of interesting bits about the CD-eating bug12:28
BetaCookiescd eating bug?12:28
flaccidcd eating bugs are way to common. i generally give up on them.12:28
ColonelPanic001CDs are crunchy12:28
angasuleif someone has a CD with a pdf file, would you try to replicate it for me, please? the instructions are easy12:28
dr0fnax!wine12:29
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.12:29
jerroldanyone happen to use kxdocker? i cant seem to get it working12:29
flaccidkxdocker worked for me when i tried it, but not under xgl12:29
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flaccidsorry i didn't try it under xgl12:29
DaSkreechBrand even12:29
Xal2I wonder if anyone has run vmware for linux on wine, installed linux on it, run wine and then vmware again and then install windows on the virtual machine on which vmware is also installed, and then install linux on that one12:30
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flaccidprobably12:30
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angasulewhat severity would the CD-eating bug be?12:33
DaSkreechangasule: grandma blocking12:34
cpk1cd eating?12:34
flaccidi would rate it high12:34
angasuleI don't recall that category :P12:34
flaccidbecause it has usability impacts12:34
cpk1i want to have something that eats cds12:34
ds_XVampireX um......you there12:34
XVampireXMaybe12:35
ds_Why'd you get all pissy and leave earlier O_O12:35
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XVampireXds_: What?12:36
DaSkreechI'm in12:36
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ds_You get all mad and left earlier12:37
XVampireXI didn't get mad :D12:38
ds_Bull, you stormed out - got off Konversation12:38
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XVampireXHey, don't blame me, something was going on wrong with my X server, it kept crashing12:38
angasuleactually, konqueror is lock-happy, it's not related to CD-ROMs, so I guess it could lock anything...12:38
XVampireXBut now I'm fine12:39
ds_Well, anyways12:39
flaccidlock-happy?12:39
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ds_I couldn't get game to work12:39
flaccidhow can you confirm its not konqueror?12:39
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XVampireXds_: Well hey, who knows, I got it working just fine, and that's with not much problems, really...12:39
XVampireXds_: Give me just a second and I'll dig(g) you a howto for warcraft 3, then12:40
ds_That's what I've been reading12:40
ds_Howtos...but, I can't follow them perfectly I don't guess12:40
XVampireXds_: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Warcraft3&back=HOWTO+INDEX+Wine+Games12:41
XVampireXDon't do the mounting part, you don't need it12:41
sascha_hi, I cant boot since I installed 2.6.19, waiting for root. anybody can help please?12:41
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ds_I walmost thinking about trying to dual boot if this doesnt work12:41
cpk1ds_: you trying to get warcraft 3 to work with wine?12:41
ds_Yes, I am cpk112:41
cpk1ds_: whats the problem you are having?12:41
ds_The whole no cd crap12:42
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ds_I've checked the drives in Winecfg12:42
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ds_And it's set to CDROM12:42
lenscape!source.list12:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about source.list - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:42
lenscape!sources.list12:42
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:42
cpk1what version of wine12:43
lenscapeanyone got a definitive sources.list ?12:43
cpk1wine --version will tell you12:44
DaSkreech!easysource > lenscape12:44
cloakablelenscape: Depends on what you mean by definative12:44
angasuleok, submitted as bug 74204, but it didn't allow me to set the importance or anything, so I guess I'll have to wait for it to be assigned.12:45
cpk1ds_: ?12:46
lenscapecloakable: well, to start with, I'm after all the media player stuff12:46
ds_0.9.26 on the wine version12:46
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angasuleargggh, that flash install question is really annoying12:46
sascha_The new kernel stays checking hda1,2,3,4 althoug I should had sda1,2,3,4.  Anybody and an idea?12:46
lenscapesource-o-matic isn't up-to-date. No Edgy12:46
cpk1ds_: what windows version are you telling it to use?12:46
ds_XP12:47
DaSkreechjust replace dapper with edgy :)12:47
intelikey!easyubuntu12:47
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu12:47
BluesKajhowdy all ! :)12:47
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intelikeyBluesKaj12:48
cpk1ds_: and /media/cdrom0 is set to cdrom?12:48
ds_Yes12:48
cpk1ok hang on give a me a second to try to remember if i did anything else to get it to work12:49
ds_Did you get a crack12:49
cpk1nope12:49
XVampireXI did12:49
ds_AND you could use Battle.net?12:49
cpk1yup12:49
cpk1played last night12:49
XVampireXmust have changed in recent versions12:49
ds_Hm =(12:50
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lenscapesource-o-matic isn't giving me anything12:50
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dr0fnaxwine is always resetting screen resolution to maximum after closing full-screen application. Any suggestions?12:51
cpk1ds_: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=1177 you read that and make sure you dont have a bad kernel version or anything?12:52
ds_Yeah?12:52
ds_Alright12:52
BluesKajlost audio in kaffeine , audio works fine in xmms(streamtuner) and VLC , i guess the Xine based players are affected.12:52
ds_Ill check12:52
lenscapeok. I think I have it sussed. Thanks all12:52
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BluesKajanyone know od the xine repos?12:53
intelikey!mp312:53
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:53
ds_How do I know what my kernel is12:53
flaccidds_: uname -r12:53
BluesKaj!xine12:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:53
XVampireXds_: you use edgy eft12:53
BluesKajXine12:53
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BluesKaj!Xine12:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:54
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XVampireXds_: It doesn't matter precise numbers, just edgy eft kernel ;)12:54
ds_Yeah, it was 2.6.17-10-generic, that's good enough...Edgy Eft kernel12:54
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intelikeyBluesKaj did ya even look at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats ?12:54
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BluesKajintelikey, it's in my sources list12:55
intelikeyand your point is ?12:55
ds_Hm, Ill look for a noCD crack =( Doesnt look like itll work otherwise12:56
intelikeyBluesKaj or are you saying you want to know what repo a package came form ???12:56
cpk1ds_: it works without one12:57
cpk1obviously12:57
cpk1ds_: is this a completely vanilla install of wine?12:57
BluesKajyes intelikey, exactly12:57
intelikeycause that's a horse of another apocalypse12:57
BluesKajor a norse of a different colour12:57
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joelbastidasrsoy un nuevo en linux, por favor como instalo mozilla en kubuntu?12:59
angasule!es12:59
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.12:59
XVampireXds_: What if I install warcraft 3 and get it working in less time than you would find a no-cd patch and apply it, realising it didn't work for you because it's a PEBKAC problem?12:59
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intelikeyBluesKaj if there is a way to back track that information, i have yet to find it.01:00
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robotgeekwhat about apt-get policy or so. lemme check01:00
ds_PEBKAC?01:00
BluesKajintelikey, I'm doing a looksee ...just a bit lazy , yhinking i might get a quick fix :)01:01
BluesKajwas01:01
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XVampireXds_: Problem exists between keyboard and chair01:02
robotgeekBluesKaj: apt-cache policy package, i think01:02
cpk1pebkac = problem exists between keyboard and chair01:02
BluesKajok robotgeek, thx i'll look for it01:02
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angasuleany developers that can get https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/74204  moving? :) I don't know why it wouldn't let me give more info about it01:04
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cpk1i lost i script somehow that i use everyday with tab complete =\01:04
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angasulecpk1: I have a problem with the cushion I place on top of my chair, is that what you mean? I have also been told I have a brightness problem, but my screen looks ok01:06
cpk1found it!01:06
cpk1angasule: huh?01:06
eilker i did a mistake and removed 55 packages, is there a command to install all packages in /var/cache/apt/archives01:06
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robotgeekeilker: not to worry, that is just a cache. nothing wrong will happen to your machine01:07
ds_Man, Serge, you're being weird01:07
XVampireXI'm not being weird :P01:07
intelikeyBluesKaj apt-get policy <package-name> | grep 500                       but i get some conflicting information.  example;  linux-image-386 is no longer installed and i get a return for two packages of that name  one from main and one from security updates01:08
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robotgeekintelikey: maybe it does not work for metapackages, i dunno01:08
intelikeyso it does seem to work on packages that are installed   but may fail on packages that have been installed/updated/and removed...01:09
rancecould someone give me a hand, Ive got no sound in a new kubuntu install, and I've already tried the hints on ubuntux.org01:09
eilkerrobotgeek: i removed myself 55 packages...01:09
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robotgeekeilker: okay. go on01:09
intelikey!sound | rance01:10
uboturance: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin01:10
intelikeythose pages ?01:10
fildomorning all01:10
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BluesKajintelikey, there'd a new kaffeine offering as of Nov26, http://kaffeine.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=download01:11
BetaCookiescan i install ubuntu-desktop in kubuntu, will it replace anything?01:11
XVampireXNo won't replace but yes you can install ubuntu-desktop01:12
XVampireXYou can have as many desktops as you want, just keep in mind programs mix01:12
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Ace2016won't that replace the boot screen?01:13
BetaCookiesXVampireX: well how can I install gnome and its libs then?01:14
eilkeris there a log for apt ?? to learning what i did , install and uninstall_?01:14
XVampireXBetaCookies: You want just gnome or ubuntu?01:14
XVampireXyou can install gnome-desktop it's also a metapackage for gnome stuff01:15
BetaCookiesi just want gnome01:16
BetaCookiesack nevermind01:16
flaccid!baddevice > fildo01:16
eilkeris there a log for apt ?? showing adept's work ?01:17
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robotgeekeilker: not, not really. do you which ones you deleted (how did you delete?01:18
fildothanx flaccid01:18
Ace2016i would ask what you lost but i guess thats what your trying to find01:18
fildour a great help as always01:18
flaccidnp01:18
flaccidhehe01:18
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eilkeri uninstalled openLDAP , and it removed 55 packages...01:19
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eilkerand i dont know how to install all packages where /var/cache/apt/archives01:20
eilkerany command for it ?*01:20
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Ace2016dpkg -i *.deb ???01:20
Ace2016but wouldn't here be like older versions there or would they have been removed?01:21
robotgeekeilker: if all the packages are there, you can sudo dpkg -i *.deb01:22
intelikeyoh KRAP!  package  libc6   depends on bash     that should not be.01:24
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malik_can any 1 help me with setting up my webcam in kubuntu?01:25
sponixintelikey: thats kinda funny ;)01:26
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eilkersudo dpkg -i *.deb gives dependency problem01:26
simmerzhow do i get around the problem of the updater in kubuntu when it wants to give configuration options via the dialog? it displays the dialog when i view the full progress, but it doesn't let me input anything01:27
eilkercant i show to adept a local repo ???01:27
malik_no help?01:27
malik_thats gr801:27
robotgeeke1mer: you can copy those packages, and create a local repo01:28
eilkerrobotgeek: where to copy ?01:29
e1merrobotgeek: ?01:29
intelikeysponix how so ?01:29
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robotgeeke1mer: if it gives dependency problems now, try "sudo apt-get -f install"01:29
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKihowdy robotgeek  o/01:29
robotgeekhey01:29
CaBlGuY-SuRfErKihows ya doin..  I got all my updates n stuff done..  and flash 9 installed..  :)01:30
robotgeekCaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: cool01:30
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CaBlGuY-SuRfErKinow, I was wonderin ....  how would I go about makin my box VERY secure....   other then disconnecting.. :p01:31
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intelikeysponix one might be trying to install and need to unpack libc6 before installing bash  in which case dpkg would totally freak.   or perhaps for what ever cause one didn't want bash installed.  maybe they like a different posix-complient shell    depending on  /bin/sh is one thing  but depending on /bin/bash is entirely another.01:31
CaBlGuYjust wanna try and get all the security I can outa my install..01:31
eloquence_can somebody help me with this? http://pastebin.ca/265091 I think there is a problem in the makefile adding an extra /01:32
malik_ and need to unpack libc6 before installing bash  in which case dpkg would totally freak.   or perhaps for what ever cause one didn't want bash installed.  maybe they like a different posix-complient shell    depending on  /bin/sh is one thing  but depending on /bin/bash is entirely another.+01:32
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sponixintelikey: I know, its a major oops, but thats what I find funny01:33
intelikeyoh.01:33
eilker!local repo01:33
sponixintelikey: Linux users are normally so stuck on bash, whoever did that probably didn't even think twice about it01:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about local repo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:33
eilker!repo01:33
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:33
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CaBlGuY!security01:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about security - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:34
simmerzhow do i get around the problem of the updater in kubuntu when it wants to give configuration options via the dialog? it displays the dialog when i view the full progress, but it doesn't let me input anything01:34
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sponixintelikey: I myself love bash, but I see crazy deps like that all the time01:34
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intelikeyyeah.    and dpkg pre/post install/remove scripts with #!/bin/bash  is another NO NO.01:34
CaBlGuYsimmerz:  use sudo update on the command..  that'll work01:34
sponixintelikey: tons of things depend on pam all the time that I feel shouldn't and so forth01:34
simmerzthis is using adept-manager btw01:34
intelikeysponix yep.01:35
sponixintelikey: good old days, with static /bin (mainly fbsd) are over also :P01:35
robotgeekeloquence_: err, sudo make is a nono!01:35
sponixintelikey: one screwed /lib and presto, boot cd it is :)01:35
politikI'm running kubuntu edgy on my dell d820 laptop. Tonight I am booting my laptop, and it gets about 1/3rd of the way through the kubuntu boot screen progress bar, then freezes. Then, the boot screen disappears and I see the text boot log, and it seems to have frozen right after "Checking file systems" finished01:35
asz_confusedhey guys, I need some help trying to remove a pain in the ass package01:35
simmerzCaBlGuY: I'm perfectly able to do that, but its my dad's machine. I'm wondering if there is a dummy's way (like changing debconf to use kdialog or something)01:35
intelikeyummm hmmm01:35
BetaCookieshow do I install openGL?01:35
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CaBlGuYsimmerz:    Hmmmm01:35
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intelikeyasz_confused you shouldn't have installed such.....  oh.  sorry.01:36
eloquence_robotgeek: even with a regular make its the same result01:36
robotgeeksimmerz: install lib-qtperl and sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf01:36
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intelikeyasz_confused what package01:36
asz_confusedI've tried removing it with apt-get, synaptic, adept, everything, but keeping getting an error 101:36
CaBlGuY!tell BetaCookies about openGL01:36
asz_confusedlinux-igd01:36
simmerzrobotgeek: thanks. thats what i needed01:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about openGL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:36
CaBlGuYrobotgeek:  I knew sudo was in there somewhere.. :p01:37
simmerzrobotgeek: then any time a config is needed, it will auto popup from adept?01:37
BetaCookies!tell BetaCookies about opengl01:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:37
intelikeyasz_confused ok do this and pastebin the output   sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-igd01:37
BetaCookieslol01:37
robotgeekeloquence_: you need to make oldconfig, i think01:37
sponixintelikey: would have have a sec to check the status of a website for me, its one of my favorites and I'm having trouble getting it to load tonight01:37
eloquence_how do i do that?01:37
eloquence_just make oldconfig? type that?01:37
intelikeyurl01:37
robotgeekeloquence_: what are you trying to do?01:37
CaBlGuYBetaCookies:  what Vid card ya got?01:37
sponixintelikey: I'll msg it .. its far from *nix related ;)01:37
robotgeeksimmerz: it should.01:37
eloquence_install ieee80211 subsystem so that i can install my intel ipw3945's wireless driver01:38
asz_confusedintelikey, pastebin?01:38
robotgeekeloquence_: okay. so, you are talking about building a new kernel01:38
intelikeysponix 40401:38
robotgeekasz_confused, don't paste in here. Please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:38
BetaCookiesCaBlGuY: well, it was working when i had fglrx installed, but now I'm using "radeon" driver, and I don't have direct rendering available -- it is enabled with fglrx though01:38
sponixintelikey: thanks01:38
intelikey!paste | asz_confused01:39
ubotuasz_confused: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:39
sponixintelikey: if you haven't been there, its a great site for adult movies through torrent01:39
asz_confusedahh, thanks01:39
eloquence_i guess so robotgeek ... i tried ti in ubuntu and it aint work01:39
Bubba_Gumphow to run wine?01:39
intelikeysponix i don't do that kinda thing.01:39
eloquence_i just installed kubuntu hoping maybe it would01:39
intelikeysponix and i could guess by the name.01:39
robotgeekeloquence_: there is not much difference kernel wise in ubuntu and kubuntu01:39
Bubba_Gump!wine01:39
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.01:39
CaBlGuYBetaCookies:  Hmmmmm   have you tried a apt-get update yet?01:39
BetaCookiesCaBlGuY: upgrade?01:40
asz_confusedintelikey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35136/01:40
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eloquence_yea i know but i had kinda screwed my ubuntu up anyways :)01:40
CaBlGuYbeta..  yep..   open your command line and do a sudo apt-get update01:40
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robotgeekeloquence_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild01:40
intelikeyasz_confused ok.  we can hack that.01:40
politikno one is having problems with edgy freezing during boot?01:41
asz_confusedyay? :D01:41
CaBlGuYBetaCookies:  what version you got installed btw?01:41
BetaCookiesCaBlGuY: edgy01:41
CaBlGuYwow..  you got the old one..01:41
robotgeekintelikey: i had to hack another post-rm script yesterday on edgy. it sucks!01:41
BetaCookiesCaBlGuY: what?01:42
robotgeekpre-rm, rather01:42
CaBlGuYBetaCookies:  you should do an apt-get upgrad if you can do that in edgy...  lots of fixes n stuff in 6.o6 and higher..01:43
CaBlGuY!edgy upgrade01:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about edgy upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:43
BetaCookiesCaBlGuY: edgy is latest..01:43
BetaCookiesare you thinking of breezy?01:43
CaBlGuYno i[m sorry.. it's not01:43
CaBlGuY!6.1001:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 6.10 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:43
CaBlGuYhang on01:44
robotgeek!edgy01:44
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes01:44
CaBlGuY:p] 01:44
BetaCookieshah :P01:44
intelikeyasz_confused what that does is tells the package manager that it's ok to continue the removal, then repairs what we changed.01:45
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CaBlGuYHmmmm01:45
robotgeekintelikey: dpkg crashed at the end01:46
asz_confusedso, it removes it completely?01:46
robotgeekintelikey: next time it tries, it will try to remove it and crash again. and so on01:46
intelikeyasz_confused yes.01:46
asz_confusedI believe it worked :D01:46
asz_confusedat the very least, it didn't fail01:46
Bubba_Gumphow do i install windows apps using wine? I'm at the 'destination folder' bit01:46
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blankyhey guys01:46
CaBlGuYBetaCookies:  so anyway..  just do that update and see if that helps ya out..01:46
intelikeyin linux 'no error' == 'no error'01:47
blankyin kde, when i try to graphically empty the trash bin, it says i dont have permission for a certain file01:47
BetaCookiesCaBlGuY: its upgrade, not update >.>01:47
blankyhow can i do it in 'sudo'01:47
asz_confusedthanks intelikey, that things been hasseling me all day01:47
intelikeyasz_confused np.01:47
asz_confusedbelieve it was botching installation of other packs too01:47
CaBlGuYBetaCookies:  there's an update.. and then there is alos upGRADE01:47
CaBlGuYthere's both..01:47
CaBlGuYu can do an upDATE and then try and upGRADE01:47
BetaCookiesnonono01:48
BetaCookiesyou apt-get update if you changed the sources.list01:48
BetaCookiesupgrade actually upgrades the older files01:48
CaBlGuYBetaCookies: nonono    dam kids....   *sigh*    update does other packages as well...01:48
CaBlGuYupGRADE does the whole system..01:49
robotgeekCaBlGuY: update just gets new file list. upgrade upgrades them01:49
intelikeyrobotgeek what i had him do was change invoke-rc.d into /bin/true  because dpkg was trying to shut down a non-existant daemon01:49
robotgeekintelikey: oh okay. cool01:49
CaBlGuYyes oh robotgeek masta...01:49
CaBlGuY:p01:49
intelikeyeaser than fixing the script in most cases01:49
BetaCookiesnow CaBlGuY you *are* wrong at the moment01:49
BetaCookiesi dont care how much you *want* to be right, you are still wrong...01:50
intelikeyCaBlGuY dist-upgrade  ^01:50
robotgeekintelikey: yes. the script in question yesterday was completely different that the one on my system01:50
robotgeekintelikey: i think there are more than one way to approach the issue, i think yours is better :)01:51
intelikeyrobotgeek if one is broken too badly you can add exit 0 to the second line.... :)01:51
CaBlGuYyea yea yea, I got it..01:51
CaBlGuYsheesh!01:51
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CaBlGuY:p01:51
robotgeekintelikey: i generally start by removing set -e01:51
intelikeyyeah01:51
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CaBlGuYso anyway..  the original reason I came in..01:52
CaBlGuYrobotgeek:  security..  I wanna get as secure as I can be..01:52
intelikeyselinux  for starters01:52
robotgeekintelikey: i would guess he means for kubuntu01:53
intelikeySecurityEnhancedLINUX01:53
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intelikeyrobotgeek it's just the kernel.  you can run in in your system01:53
CaBlGuYI just want my box to be secure in this day and age of big brother watchin us...01:53
CaBlGuYthat's all.01:53
CaBlGuY:)01:53
robotgeekCaBlGuY: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security01:53
CaBlGuYK..01:54
intelikeyCaBlGuY hehhe  wanting to hide from us it funny...   simple answer. don't do anything wrong and you don't care if "big brother" does watch.01:55
BetaCookiesintelikey: even if you dont do anything wrong, you might have private stuff that you dont want "big brother" watching :P01:55
robotgeekit's tough to escape big brother, if at all. tor seems like the closest thing towards such a thing, but too much abuse.01:55
politikOk I just chose the recovery kernel in grub, and now I think I can see what the problem is: "[17179598.452000]  BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!" any clue what this is???01:55
Lam_what's the significance of that down arrow on the STOP button in Amarok?01:55
intelikeyBetaCookies na01:56
robotgeekLam_: click-hold it01:56
Lam_robotgeek: wow cool, thanks01:56
intelikeyBetaCookies you might have things you don't want a thief to see.  but that's common sense.01:56
CaBlGuYintelikey:   I'm not the only one...   big brother is watcjin everyone..   even you..01:56
CaBlGuYjust so ya know01:56
CaBlGuY;)01:56
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intelikeyCaBlGuY oh i kno.01:57
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sliqhi room!01:57
intelikeyCaBlGuY yall pay my check.  :)01:57
sliqwhat are the main improvements for this new ubuntu01:57
sliq?01:57
CaBlGuYLOL   I aint payin no one shit..   cept my own bills..   ;)01:58
CaBlGuYand I ONLY do that cause I gotta01:58
robotgeeksliq: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php01:58
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BetaCookiesHey01:58
intelikeysliq new and enhanced bugs, faster crash time; and greater effort installing  :)01:58
robotgeekintelikey: lol01:59
BetaCookiesIs there a way to change the default volume of applications? They are always really loud, even when KMix has the volume at 0%01:59
robotgeekBetaCookies: i think you might need to configure kmix then, which channels to control, etc01:59
politikalright I have a bug to report to you folks. yes I am too lazy to report it properly. If the wireless card enable switch on my laptop (dell d820) is turned off when I try to boot, the laptop will not boot, and says [17179598.452000]  BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!. If I enable the switch, it boots as usual.01:59
BetaCookiesrobotgeek: how? :s02:00
robotgeek!bug02:00
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots02:00
robotgeekpolitik: ^^ file it there02:00
intelikeypolitik put'er thar' ^^^02:00
CaBlGuYK im out..02:00
CaBlGuYbbl02:00
robotgeekBetaCookies: right click -> show master window -> configure kmix, i think02:01
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intelikeypolitik also of note one might be able to rebuild the initramfs.img and fix that.    not sure how much it's worth to you.02:02
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politikintelikey: how would that be related?02:03
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Ace2016bye all02:03
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eq_what's a good audio player (small in size) that plays real audio files?02:05
politikapparently this is a known issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251944&page=202:05
garretAll I could use some help.  I just upgraded to edgy and now I can not log into KDE or start any KDE application.  Also, I can not get OpenOffice to open.  Any thoughts?02:05
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intelikeypolitik [17179598.452000]   that would be a kernel message,  you specified it's network related and also that it fails to boot. (which if you have a clue what "boot" means) tells me that the system is halting in the initramfs.   but if it's booting and init/upstart is hanging it out to dry then it's in the init scripts.02:06
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Zabulusok, how do i get my wireless usb to work?02:07
Zabulusnetgear wpn11102:07
intelikey!wifi02:07
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:07
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ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)02:07
eq_what's a good audio player (small in size) that plays real audio files?02:07
politikintelikey: its definitely in the init scripts, but why would my initramfs be corrupt in the first place?02:07
BluesKajreal audio for linux02:07
BluesKaj!real audio02:07
eq_isn't it huge in size?02:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about real audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:08
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intelikeypolitik what part of that did you miss ???   is it booting or not ?02:08
BluesKaji think you can find real audio in automatix202:08
intelikeydefine to boot.02:08
politikit is booting, if I turn on the wireless switch02:08
garretAll, any thoughts on why I can not log into KDE after upgrading to edgy?02:09
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intelikeysystem boot up is loading the kernel and mounting the root filesystem.   future processes are post boot yet still within the startup sequence.     why is it defined that way?   because a system booted is usable.  even if it later becomes unusable it was already "booted".02:10
robotgeek!codecs > BluesKaj02:10
launchpadsniff sniff02:11
politikhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/63418 this is the exact bug I experienced.02:12
BluesKajfound it in synaptic, strange that adept didn't have it , robotgeek02:12
blankyintelikey: how do I pass params to a maek file? i forget02:13
blankymake /blah=thing02:13
blanky?02:13
intelikeynow that being said.   if while starting up you see mounting root blah blah blah...  then the problem is not in the kernel nor the initramfs   but in the startup scripts most likely.      if you don't get to the real root fs  then it's probably in the initramfs.  because the kernel loads very quickly and you would think that grub is failing if it's the kernel.02:13
robotgeekBluesKaj: depends on if you turned on the commercial repository02:13
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launchpadcrap02:13
blankyintelikey: ?02:13
intelikeyblanky idk  i don't compile much.02:14
robotgeeklaunchpad: what happ?02:14
BluesKajthe audio isn't working still, tho , robot02:14
launchpadhey guys i install ubuntu 5.10 and im trying to update thru apt-get.. i dont have any cds02:14
launchpadand im getting an error02:14
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SupremeBeingwhat's the command to edit a conf file?02:14
robotgeeklaunchpad: paste the error, please02:14
launchpadand the peeps in ubuntu arnt responding02:14
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launchpadE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)02:15
SupremeBeingabattoir: Wow! It's been a while! This is ColonelKernel from about 5 months ago =D02:15
launchpadE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?02:15
launchpadlaunchpad@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade02:15
launchpadReading package lists... Done02:15
launchpadBuilding dependency tree... Done02:15
launchpadCalculating upgrade... Done02:15
launchpad0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.02:15
launchpadi did that then i did sudo02:15
BluesKajinteresting that a SupremeBeing needs help :)02:15
SupremeBeingBluesKaj: Ironic, no?02:15
gnomefreakSupremeBeing: kdesu kate /file/file.conf02:15
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BluesKajyuo :)02:15
abattoirhello SupremeBeing :)02:15
SupremeBeinggnomefreak: kdesu that's it. thanks02:15
SupremeBeingabattoir: Hello!02:15
Zabuluswho wants to help me get my wireless working?02:15
abattoirSupremeBeing: how are you?02:15
robotgeek!upgrade > launchpad02:15
gnomefreaklaunchpad: you cant use update-manager without first setting use of the net repos02:15
intelikeypolitik boot the system with  init=/bin/sh    if you get to the shell it's not a "boot" issue   it's a startup issue.    and the problem is in the scripts.    else it's a boot issue.   and rebuilding the initramfs.img  "might" help.02:16
SupremeBeingabattoir: Excellent! Making more progress than I did last time =P02:16
launchpadok reposiatorys then02:16
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abattoirSupremeBeing: great :)02:16
gnomefreaklaunchpad: read the link ubotu sent you everything should be there02:16
politikintelikey: okay, I'll give it a shot, thanks02:16
launchpadokie thanks02:16
intelikeypolitik note that init=/bin/sh  the system will be read only.  so you can't hurt it02:16
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Zabuluswho wants to help me get my wireless working?02:16
SupremeBeingabattoir: only thing left is fixing this stupid fglrx to work :D02:17
intelikey... can't hurt it if you stay out of /dev  that is.02:17
launchpadgrr i cant wait till my offical ubuntu book comes in02:17
RoKFiTHello, yesterday I mounted a drive and I do not have write access to the drive, can anyone help me?02:17
launchpadread it while listing to the eagles lol02:17
gnomefreak!repos | launchpad02:17
ubotulaunchpad: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:17
adept_xrokfit, on which computer did you format the drive?02:17
gnomefreakthe book is no different than the wikis except format02:17
RoKFiTthis one02:17
intelikeyRoKFiT is that the one you edited /etc/fstab for ?02:17
adept_xon which account? root?02:17
RoKFiTintelikey: yes.02:17
RoKFiTno user02:18
launchpadyeah but its easier for me to have a book02:18
RoKFiTintelikey: how can i change write access02:18
launchpadfor some reason i like my stuff in print instead of electronical lol02:18
adept_xyou will have to change the permissions as root to allow accdes to your user group./02:18
Zabuluswho wants to help me get my wireless working?02:18
intelikeyRoKFiT what fs type is it ?02:18
RoKFiTi'm not sure, how do i check/02:18
launchpadok im assuming sence cp /etc/apt/sources.{list,list.bak}; sed -i s/dapper/edgy/g /etc/apt/sources.list didnt say anything it backed up correctly?02:18
intelikeymount02:18
abattoirSupremeBeing: oh, you're following the wiki guide?02:18
RoKFiText302:18
launchpadi also have another question if yall dont mind02:19
SupremeBeingabattoir: at the moment, i'm trying this guide: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_new_8.29.6_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually02:19
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intelikeyRoKFiT sudo chmod 777 /media/where-ever-it-is...02:19
launchpadwhen i goto system ; administration ; disk i run into a problem02:19
gnomefreaklaunchpad: double check if your not sure02:19
gnomefreakbut should have yes02:19
RoKFiTintelikey: didn't i do this yesterday?02:20
intelikeydid you ?02:20
intelikeyseems like it.02:20
intelikeywhat's the mountpoint ?02:20
launchpadit shows 2 hard drives... one says one is unknown at /dev/mapper/ubuntu02:20
RoKFiT... /dev/sdb102:20
launchpadthen my other is /dev/sda02:20
launchpadwhat is that /dev/mapper/ubuntu?02:21
intelikeyRoKFiT no  the mountpoint  not the device node02:21
intelikey /media/sdb1 ?02:21
RoKFiT... /media/sdb102:21
intelikeyk   ls -ld /medai/sdb102:21
intelikeyand show me02:21
RoKFiTdrwxrwxrwx 6 root root 4096 2006-11-25 15:24 /media/sdb102:22
launchpadgnomefreak are you busy at the moment?02:22
intelikeyyou should have full access to that.02:22
gnomefreakyes give me a minute02:22
intelikeywhat is it you can't do ?02:22
Zabuluswho wants to help me get my wireless working?02:22
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launchpadok thanks02:22
RoKFiTdang, than why can't i copy a .vcf file from the Kontact folder where it is stored.  I want my file on my backup drive so it's always there02:23
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RoKFiTinstead of on the main fs02:23
RoKFiTi was trying to copy the file, then point to it inside the app02:23
gnomefreakok launchpad whats up?02:23
intelikeyRoKFiT in the konsole;  cp ~/that-file /media/sdb1    lets see the error message ?02:24
launchpadok im in system ;administration ; disks02:24
launchpadi see two hard drives02:25
gnomefreakk02:25
launchpadone is labeled /dev/mapper/ubuntu02:25
launchpadthen i see my other which is /dev/02:25
gnomefreakmapper?02:25
launchpad/dev/home02:25
launchpadyeah02:25
intelikeyaddress maybe  ~/.kde/share/apps/kontact    or something like that.02:25
SupremeBeingis it still necessary to enable mp3 support in kubuntu?02:25
gnomefreaklaunchpad: i have never seen that before02:26
gnomefreakSupremeBeing: if you want to listen to mp3s yes02:26
launchpadoh crap02:26
launchpadi think i know what it is02:26
launchpadubunutu gave me this lvm thing02:26
RoKFiTthat-file?02:26
launchpadand i selected it02:26
RoKFiToh hold on02:26
launchpadbut now..02:26
launchpadif i look at the orginal hard drive02:26
launchpadi goto the partions02:27
launchpadi see partion 1 and 502:27
launchpadpartition 5 has /dev/sda5 on it02:27
intelikeySupremeBeing no.  you don't have to ever mess with restricted/propriatary formats....  but if you are going to use them it will always be nessarry to do some off colour twiddeling.02:27
launchpadsays filesystem is unformated02:27
launchpadwhen i goto status it says inaccessible02:27
SupremeBeingintelikey: K thanks02:27
launchpadi press enable... nothing happens02:27
gnomefreak5 should be swap02:27
gangienoff colour twiddeling?02:27
launchpadhmm i think the install went wrong02:28
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gnomefreaklaunchpad: partition 5 = swap02:28
launchpadi think ill reinstall ubuntu02:28
launchpadok cause 232.65 gigs is swap02:28
launchpadand i realy dont want that then lol02:28
intelikeySupremeBeing and just a note; it's not linux's fault.  blame the greed-mongers that paten their code.02:28
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gnomefreaklaunchpad: if you use the top command it should show you how much is swap02:28
RoKFiTintelikey: cp: cannot create regular file `/media/sdb1/Brandon/Files/std.vcf': Permission denied02:29
launchpadtop command?02:29
gnomefreaklaunchpad: wth02:29
gnomefreaklaunchpad: top02:29
gnomefreaklaunchpad: i dont see the installer making a 200+ gig swap02:29
launchpadim a linux noob lol02:29
gnomefreakthats not possible with the installer unless you make it02:29
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gnomefreaklaunchpad: ion terminal type top02:29
gnomefreaklaunchpad: it will show you how much swap and how much mem + what is being used of each02:30
launchpadok in top02:30
Zabuluswhat sources should i uncomment in sources.list?02:30
gnomefreakZabulus: depends what you want02:30
launchpadswap total = 6160376k total02:30
Zabulusi want to get my wireless working02:30
RoKFiTsome of my folders within the disk are 501 permission, others are set to root, even after the chmod 77702:30
RoKFiTintelikey: are you still there?02:30
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gnomefreakZabulus: i would comment out the cd repo and uncomment the rest and add multiverse to the end of any line ending in universe02:31
gnomefreakZabulus: the repos are not gonna help you get wireless working02:31
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intelikeyRoKFiT ah a subdir issue  lol  you have to specify things like that.    rokfit do this;   sudo -R chown $USER:`groups | cut -d' ' -f1` /media/sdb102:31
gnomefreakZabulus: you need the cd handy and maybe install ndiswrapper-utils02:31
gnomefreak!wireless | Zabulus02:31
ubotuZabulus: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:31
Zabulusok, so how do i get it to install indiswrapper?02:31
launchpadim gonna reinstall02:31
intelikeyRoKFiT that's take care of you.    your welcome.02:32
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launchpadtell it to format lol02:32
gnomefreakread the above link to help you02:32
launchpadill brb02:32
RoKFiTsudo: illegal option `-R'02:32
intelikeyput it after chown02:32
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launchpadill be back guys02:32
Zabulusunfortunately, the link from !wireless is for installed cards02:32
Zabulusmine is a usb02:32
launchpadty for ur help i will be needing more soon02:32
launchpadgnome if i may ask02:33
launchpadwhat are u runing02:33
RoKFiTfixed02:33
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launchpadubuntu or kubuntu02:33
RoKFiTthank you intelikey02:33
Zabuluscan someone tell me how to get a wpn111 working in kubuntu?02:34
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intelikey*buntu standard help...    sudo chown -r $USER:`groups | cut -d' ' -f1` $HOME        (i call it 'own your home')02:34
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gnomefreaklaunchpad: i have ubuntu kubuntu xubuntu e17 fluxbox blackbox god i think another one too02:34
launchpadcause ubutnu has server edition but kubuntu channle is more helpful02:34
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launchpadwell ill put kubuntu in02:34
gnomefreaklaunchpad: server is neither ubuntu nor kubuntu02:34
gnomefreaklaunchpad: it is server no GUI at all02:35
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gnomefreaknope thats all of them02:35
launchpadgrr i need a gui server edition lol02:35
intelikeythat's correct02:35
launchpadim still to addicted to windows02:36
RoKFiTthank you inteli02:36
launchpadwell im restarting02:36
gnomefreaklaunchpad: no such thing downlaod the server iso install it than install -desktop package of your choice02:36
rodrigosome would say your crazy.02:36
intelikeyRoKFiT i said  welcome...02:36
launchpadso i can go from ubuntu to kubuntu02:36
launchpad?02:36
gnomefreakubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop edubuntu-desktop pick one or more :)02:37
BluesKajaha, the amarok xine engine needed to be installed ...now all the players work fine ...BTW robotgeek, the xine engine installs from within amarok ...when trying to play an mp3 for example if the engine is missing , a dialog box asks if you'd like amatok to install it ...neat !02:37
simmerzhow do i get wpa working on the kubuntu livecd?02:37
launchpadwell can i do it thru apt-get?02:37
gnomefreaklaunchpad: you can install any one of those i just typed and just log out log into the one you want02:37
gnomefreaklaunchpad: sudo apt-get install pickone02:37
gnomefreakor more02:37
launchpadi have no cds to transer tit02:37
intelikeylaunchpad you can if you want   sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop blackbox* fluxbox* twm ...02:37
gnomefreakinstall02:38
intelikeyi got tired of installing for you....02:38
gnomefreaklol02:38
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gnomefreaklaunchpad: transfer it to what why?02:38
RoKFiTintelikey: why is kontact creating extra "Contacts 1.vcf_0" and "Contacts 1.vcf_1" files?02:38
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launchpadroot@ubuntu:~# sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop blackbox* fluxbox* twm02:39
launchpadE: Invalid operation ubuntu-desktop02:39
intelikeyRoKFiT i have no clue.  i don't use kontact.  not even a gui most of the time.02:39
RoKFiTshoot, maybe i don't want them pointing to my external drive02:39
launchpadno no trasnfer02:39
gnomefreaklaunchpad: install and no sudo if your in root terminal02:39
gnomefreaknight02:39
Zabulusok, how do i get my netgear wpn111 (wireless usb) to work in kubuntu dapper02:39
Zabulus?02:39
launchpadgah so much confusion.. i need that book lol02:39
launchpado that reminds me02:40
launchpadi must show the error  i get02:40
Zabulusanyone?02:40
eq_anybody know a program to convert .rm files to .3gp for cell phones?02:41
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launchpad6160376k is = to what total?02:41
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unix_infidel!ndiswrapper | Zabulus02:42
ubotuZabulus: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:42
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intelikeyRoKFiT if you want a really snappy mount on that other drive.  umount it and make the mount point == `echo $HOME`      like this    sudo sed s_/media/sdb1_$HOME_ /etc/fstab && umount /dev/sdb1 && mount -a         then logout and back in.02:42
unix_infidelZabulus: you need to use the ndiswrapper docs.02:42
intelikeyerrr sudo both mount commands tho02:43
launchpadbrb02:43
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intelikeycp -R $HOME /media/sdb1 ;sudo sed s_/media/sdb1_$HOME_ /etc/fstab && sudo umount /dev/sdb1 && sudo mount -a02:44
intelikeyyeah that should work.  ^02:44
intelikeyerrr no.02:45
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intelikeyredirrect the output of sed...   oh well.02:45
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Asz_ConfusedI love you intelikey :D02:46
intelikeyyou'll get over it.02:47
Asz_Confusedhaha02:47
BluesKajoh the luuuuvv ":)02:47
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SupremeBeingwell that didn't work :/02:47
RoKFiTintelikey: what will that do?02:48
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intelikeycp -R $HOME /media/sdb1 ;sed s_/media/sdb1_`echo $HOME`_ /etc/fstab | sudo tee /etc/fstab && sudo umount /dev/sdb1 && sudo mount -a02:48
intelikeynow that should work.02:49
intelikeyRoKFiT you may not want that.02:49
RoKFiTi will just modify it in the tree view, or side view02:49
intelikeyit makes the drive that is now /media/sdb1 your home dir.  ^02:49
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RoKFiThow do i start konqueror with filesystem view?02:50
RoKFiTi may do that in the future02:50
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kubuntu-worldhi all can u help me install xp on kubuntu so i can have a dubble partion02:51
kubuntu-world?02:51
intelikeyit changes /media/sdb1 to /home/rokfit    (assuming that's your home)02:51
kubuntu-worldhello intel i nead to install xp on my kubuntu so i have 2 in1 how u do that?02:51
RoKFiTi might do that in the future02:51
larson9999RoKFiT: i think it's "konqueror --profile filemanager"  or something like that. man konqueror and you'll get it02:52
RoKFiTthanks larson999902:52
kubuntu-worldso is it possible to install xp on kubuntu so u got 2 in 1?02:53
intelikeykubuntu-world you make some free space on the hd and boot the XP install disk    when you are done boot the live linux cd and reinstall grub02:53
kubuntu-worldit's a big problem for me couse it's 1 time i use linux02:53
kubuntu-worldi got no idea of what u speaking of02:54
intelikeynot free space on the hd != free space on a partition.  two entirely different things.02:54
RoKFiTlarson9999: that didn't work02:54
kubuntu-worldcan u hellp me do that intel?02:54
RoKFiTwell it sort of did02:54
intelikeynope. kubuntu-world you are half a world away from me.02:54
larson9999RoKFiT: did you "man konqueror" ?02:54
RoKFiTcan i change the tree view to explorer like?02:54
RoKFiTno i will02:55
kubuntu-worldwhat u mean half a word?02:55
intelikeyRoKFiT in the menu02:55
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flaccid_anybody know a good smartmon howto02:55
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intelikeyi said not word.   but world02:55
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RoKFiTthis is what i have set for command02:55
RoKFiTkonqueror profile filemanager02:55
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RoKFiTand it loads with two tabs that say locate:profile and locate:filemanager02:56
kubuntu-worldwho can help me install xp on kubuntu so i can dubble partion?02:56
Zabulusalright, i tried using sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`, and got a response of E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)02:56
plerki can help you02:56
larson9999RoKFiT: "konqueror --profile filemanagement"02:56
kubuntu-worldthanx plerk02:56
ZabulusE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?02:56
kubuntu-worldso what i have to do 1 of all to start plerk?02:56
intelikeyRoKFiT dash dash  --   see02:56
RoKFiTthere it is02:56
RoKFiTno it was the filemanagement not filemanager02:57
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intelikeyRoKFiT but you can open konq to any startup and then in it's menu change what you see.02:57
kubuntu-worldu there plerk?02:57
plerkone sec.02:57
plerkbrb02:57
kubuntu-worldthanx02:57
RoKFiThow do i change navigation panel to act like a "tree" view02:58
SupremeBeingabattoir: available?02:58
kubuntu-worldwho knows if the yahoo has web cam and mic as the one for xp?02:58
intelikeyRoKFiT look at it's tabs.02:58
Zabuluscan someone help me?02:58
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kubuntu-worldany one knows if yahoo linux has web cam and mic ?02:58
RoKFiTi am looking at the tabs02:59
RoKFiTno option02:59
intelikeyZabulus is  another process using it?02:59
RoKFiTjust default view02:59
Zabulusi guess so02:59
Zabulusbut i dont know what, and i dont know how to stop it02:59
robotgeekhmm, does anyone know offhand how to fix the "sudo timestamp too far in future"02:59
intelikeyZabulus ps -A x03:00
intelikeymaybe filter for dpkg    ps -A x | grep dpkg03:00
kubuntu-worldintel does yahoo for linux have a web cam and a mic like the one for xp?03:00
intelikeykubuntu-world i have no idea.03:00
kubuntu-worldamsn does but no audio yet03:01
intelikeythere should be info on their website03:01
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Zabulusresponnse of 6126 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep dpkg03:01
kubuntu-worldwhy u don't want to help me intel btw?03:01
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intelikeyZabulus ps -A x | grep adept03:01
kubuntu-worldwelcome back plerk so when u ready we can start03:02
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kubuntu-worldi really nead a dubble partion03:02
kalmhello03:02
kubuntu-worldhi kalm03:02
kubuntu-worldcalm non eri quello di prima te'?03:03
Zabulus5121 ?        S      0:01 adept_notifier        6128 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep adept03:03
kalmhey can you tell me... how do i make my system boot to kdm ? rather than the text mode login03:03
intelikeykubuntu-world i can't we don't speak the same language, i answer your question and you say " huh ? "   it's an exrocise in futility.    and then you ask thing that i don't know about and get angry because i don't answer....   sorry.  i just can't help you.03:03
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kalmim multilingual03:04
kalmtoo03:04
kalm :)03:04
kubuntu-worldnp03:04
tobiasheya all! How do I make my portable hd which is formatted in evil ms format work in linux?03:04
kubuntu-worldkalm mi puoi dare na mano?03:04
intelikeykalm id kdm installed ?03:04
kubuntu-worldsono quello di prima03:04
kalmtobias is it usb?03:05
tobiaskalm: yes03:05
intelikeyerr is03:05
tobiaskalm: I mounted it, but it says I dont have rights to read it or something03:05
BluesKaj!it03:05
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:05
kalmah in fstab write user under options03:05
tobiaskamlm: what is fstab?03:06
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kalmgo nano /etc/fstab03:06
kalmto "automate" it03:06
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intelikeyZabulus sorry i didn't see your post.    killall adept_notifier03:07
kubuntu-worldso to install flash player i do apt-get install flash player right?03:07
tobiaskalm: it is ntfs, so I write user under options? ok Ill try to find it :)03:07
RoKFiTi don't get why kontact makes all these separate .vcf files03:07
RoKFiTif it could be one file, someone could have it setup on their backup drive03:07
intelikeykubuntu-world wrong03:07
RoKFiTand not worry about backing it up03:07
luisFlash 9 appear today in the Dapper repository03:08
tobiaskalm:user instead of defaults ?03:08
kubuntu-worldwell i can understand u now intel in this03:08
RoKFiTluis, how do i install it!!?!!03:08
kubuntu-worldso how i have to do luis ?03:08
plerkhi im back03:08
RoKFiT64bit?03:08
kubuntu-worldyes03:08
luisAdept updater installed it for me03:08
RoKFiTooh, how can i install it03:08
RoKFiTadept?03:08
tobiaskalm: I delete the text "defaults" and replace it with "user" ?03:08
kubuntu-worldok plerk let's solve the major problem03:08
tobiasIm scared to edit config files :)03:08
kalmtobias: yeah03:08
tobiaskalm: thanks"03:09
kubuntu-worldso i got the xp cd what i do now to install it on kubuntu plerk?03:09
tobias!03:09
luisIf you don't have flash yet, you will probably have to accept some licence03:09
kalmuser, auto03:09
RoKFiTluis, no updates03:09
luisso if you go to adept, click on details03:09
RoKFiTadept install it?03:09
RoKFiTwhat is it listed as?03:10
kubuntu-worlddamn im starting to get red for anger i feel so lost03:10
RoKFiTlibflash?03:10
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luisok, type sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree03:10
plerkkbuntu world: can u dcc?03:10
kubuntu-worldno03:10
pacmanokay, supid question03:10
kubuntu-worldbut can read u here03:10
kubuntu-worldas im not a reg user03:10
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plerkthis is better to do in a private channel03:10
pacmanwhat's the command to see what active processes I have running03:10
intelikey<pacman> okay, supid question << i like questions03:10
kubuntu-worldim quite smart if u guide me so i think we can make it03:10
robotgeekpacman: ps -ef | less03:11
Digital_PioneerHey, I need someone who's familiar with the edgy alternate CD......03:11
kubuntu-worldproblem i can't pvt im not reg03:11
intelikeypacman top03:11
tobiaskalm: should I remove all the other stuff tooo?03:11
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RoKFiTluis, Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:11
luispacman, try "top" or "ps ax"03:11
intelikeypacman man ps03:11
plerkjust register, its easy. i just did it03:11
Digital_PioneerI need to repair my Kubuntu... I think the shell is fried.03:11
intelikeypacman pstree is nice imo03:11
luisRoKFiT, maybe you're missing some repository in sources.list03:11
tobiaskalm: it says "/dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0   $"03:11
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kubuntu-worldok im not able to reg03:11
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kubuntu-worldcan u help me from here?03:11
Digital_PioneerPLEASE help?03:12
pacmanthank you...for some reason VLC didn't close last time I "closed" it03:12
plerkjust run: "/msg nickserv register <your password>"03:12
tobiaskalm: sorry for being so slow :)03:12
intelikeypacman it down sizes to the task bar  ???03:12
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tobiasok... I scared him away03:12
Digital_PioneerAnyone???03:12
pacmanno, it closes as far as on the desktop, but it kept running03:12
Digital_PioneerI don't like to be impatient, but this isn't a trivial problem!!!03:13
tobiasdigital_pioneer: why are u like writing in caps and scaring of the help?03:13
kubuntu-worldok the best is u tell me here03:13
Digital_Pioneertobias: Because my life depends on getting this thing working again!03:13
RoKFiTluis, i am on x86_6403:13
kubuntu-worldcouse to reg will take to long and im not able to03:13
tobiaswow03:13
tobiassomeone help im03:13
kubuntu-worldand my isp dosen't allow dcc03:13
intelikeyDigital_Pioneer and who is going to kill you ?03:13
tobiasu could just insert your cd you know03:13
Digital_Pioneerintelikey: My mom!03:13
tobiasand reboot03:13
plerkthen register?03:13
luisAh, ok, maybe that's a problem RoKFiT. I don't know how to make it work then03:14
plerkjust run: "/msg nickserv register <your password>"03:14
tobiasdigital_pioneer: u know u insert the cd and boot it and stuff happens03:14
Digital_Pioneertobias: I'd like to consider reinstalling and losing everything I have a last resort.03:14
plerk /msg nickserv set unfiltered on03:14
intelikeyhmmm well lets see if we can keep 'mom' out of prison shall we Digital_Pioneer03:14
tobiasdigital_pioneer: u dont reinstall it u know,..... there is a repair option or something03:14
intelikeywhat is the issue?03:14
Digital_Pioneertobias: I'm in the recovery area of the alternate CD.03:14
tobiasdigital_pioneer: then push the recover button03:14
tobiasdigital_pioneer: or something03:15
kubuntu-worldok done thanx03:15
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tobiasdigital_pioneer: it should be pretty straight forward03:15
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SupremeBeingcan anyone walk me through getting  fglrx to work?03:15
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tobiasintelikey: he needs to repair his installation03:15
intelikeytobias i bet that would totally hose my working install03:15
intelikeythat automated recovery thingy03:16
tobiasintelikey: oh, Im sorry I just thought that was how it was done since last time I did it everything was the same for me...03:16
Digital_Pioneertobias: I'm in the recovery menu!03:16
tobiasintelikey: but it was xubuntu03:16
tobiasintelikey: should be the same stuff though03:16
Digital_Pioneertobias: But I don't know what to do. There's no "reinstall the shell" option.03:16
Digital_PioneerAnd my mom's in here screaming at me.03:16
tobiasintelikey: save the poor soul :)03:17
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intelikeyDigital_Pioneer please as your mom to be quiet or leave the room so you can fix this....     or just let her read this post and say nothing...03:17
Digital_PioneerShe's gone....03:18
intelikeyDigital_Pioneer tell me what the problem is.  as best as you can describe it.03:18
Digital_PioneerNow she's telling my sister what an evil cyberdemon I am.03:18
Digital_Pioneerintelikey: OK, I boot into Kubuntu. It starts up, OK... KDM doesn't start.03:18
Digital_PioneerThen, I switch to tty1.03:18
Digital_PioneerLogin as root.03:18
Digital_PioneerAnd no commands work.03:19
Digital_Pioneermake, jam, aptitude, etc.03:19
Digital_PioneerAll say "command not found"03:19
Digital_PioneerAll I can find to work is reboot and cd.03:19
robotgeek/usr/bin/make , maybe?03:19
politikDigital_Pioneer: dmesg?03:19
Digital_PioneerSo either the shell's broke, or /usr/bin got deleted.03:19
Digital_Pioneerpolitik: That's one more that works.03:19
politiknothing interesting there though?03:19
intelikeysounds like a PATH problem.03:19
Digital_PioneerBut I don't think it has a shell....03:20
politikthis kind of thing happened to me recently, turned out to be a broken HD03:20
Digital_PioneerThe recovery disk can't even find the shell.03:20
Digital_PioneerMy HD is fine...03:20
RoKFiTbbl03:20
Digital_PioneerKnoppix reads it just fine.03:20
intelikeyDigital_Pioneer ok do you have the hd mounted ?03:20
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Digital_Pioneerintelikey: I'm not on the HD.03:21
intelikeyi know that03:21
intelikey is it mounted some place ?03:21
Digital_PioneerI don't think so.03:22
intelikeyok lets mount it and look around shall we.03:22
tobiasdamn, I deleted those things in fstab and now it says my line 6 in fstab is evil03:22
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intelikeytobias what is line 6 ?03:23
tobiasintelikey: "/dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    user, auto 0       1"03:23
Digital_PioneerOK, I've gotta figure out how to hook up a shell to it.03:23
intelikeyyep it is.03:23
tobias:)03:23
tobiasgood03:23
Digital_Pioneer"No usable shell found in /dev/hda1"03:23
tobiaseveryone agrees03:23
coreymon77hi guys03:23
intelikeytobias extra space...  user, auto03:23
tobiasaha!03:23
tobiasthanks03:23
intelikeyshould be  user,auto03:24
coreymon77it there any way to modify keyboard layouts03:24
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coreymon77such as a program you can get off of apt03:24
intelikeyDigital_Pioneer hook up a shell ?03:24
Digital_Pioneercoreymon77: Try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:24
Digital_Pioneerintelikey: My root drive is /dev/hda1. It doesn't have a shell.03:24
tobiasintelikey: thanks u are brilliant:D03:24
intelikeyDigital_Pioneer so03:24
tobiasintelikey: but it still doesnt want to read it cus its ntfs i think03:24
Digital_Pioneerintelikey: So?03:25
Digital_Pioneertobias: For NTFS, I recommend ntfs-3g03:25
intelikeyDigital_Pioneer what are you calling a "shell" ?03:25
Digital_Pioneerintelikey: The command line.03:25
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Digital_PioneerIf that's wrong, please correct me.03:25
tobiasdigital: I write "ntfs-3g" instead of "ntfs"03:25
tobias?03:25
tobiasDigital_Pioneer: even :)03:25
Digital_Pioneertobias: No, it's a program to handle ntfs.03:26
tobiasI got the power of tab03:26
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tobiasoh03:26
intelikeyno that's correct.  but again i say   so mount the partition.03:26
Digital_Pioneertobias: Google it.03:26
tobiasDigital_Pioneer: its not in adept?03:26
Digital_Pioneertobias: Might be... But I'd use apt-cache search ntfs3g.03:26
Digital_Pioneertobias: It seems to search more than adept does.03:26
tobiasoki thanks :)03:26
Zabuluswhats the source-directory? and how do i get there?03:27
tobiasI got kwikdisk though maybe that works03:27
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coreymon77Digital_Pioneer: i dont want to mess around with things too much, i just want to modify the hebrew phonetic layout a bit03:27
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intelikeyDigital_Pioneer are you saying that there is no console shell running on the system you are talking to me on ?03:27
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Digital_Pioneercoreymon77: That command goes through keyboard layouts eventually.03:27
Digital_Pioneerintelikey: No.03:28
tobiasif it says I dont have access rights... what does that mean?03:28
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tobiasthat it cant handle ntfs? I managed to use ntfs stuff before.. strange03:28
Digital_Pioneerintelikey: I'm talking to you from Windoze... On a laptop. My desktop is broken.03:28
Digital_Pioneertobias: You can't get write on NTFS with current software.03:28
Digital_Pioneertobias: You need ntfs-3g.03:28
tobiasDigital_Pioneer: but it wont even let me read03:28
intelikeyok on the desktop   boot a linux cd ?03:28
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Digital_Pioneerintelikey: The desktop is currently booted from the alternat CD.03:29
coreymon77Digital_Pioneer: does that muck around with/reset any of my other settings?03:29
intelikeyok use alt+ctrl+f2  and see if there is a console running Digital_Pioneer03:29
Digital_Pioneercoreymon77: Shouldn't if you leave it at defaults. But it should make a backup config after it's done.03:30
Digital_Pioneerintelikey: ...03:30
intelikeywell ?03:30
coreymon77i dont want ot mess around with things03:30
doobledillyhowdy, im getting now soundcard found when i type aplay -l  :: im following this guide, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20544903:30
doobledillywhen i type modprobe snd- and press tab like it says nothing happens03:30
Zabulusok, i got to the part where i start running "make" commands on this page http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation03:30
doobledilly*no03:31
Zabulusbut i get errors trying to use make03:31
Digital_Pioneerintelikey: Nope, that's the shell on the CD.03:31
coreymon77so is there any sort of keyboard layout editor/creator/modifier program that i can download03:31
intelikeyDigital_Pioneer you really have no clue what you are saying do you ?03:31
Digital_Pioneerintelikey: When I tell the CD I want to use the shell on the hard drive, it says there isn't a usable one.03:31
intelikeyand how are you telling it that ?03:31
Digital_Pioneerintelikey: The CD is like it's own little installation. It has a /dev, /usr, /etc... All its own.03:32
Digital_PioneerApart from the computers.03:32
Digital_PioneerIts tty consoles all use that!03:32
intelikey<Digital_Pioneer> Apart from the computers. <--- hehhe03:32
Digital_Pioneerintelikey: Have you used the alternate CD?03:32
tobiasIm confused03:32
tobias:)03:32
Zabulushow do i use "make" commands so i can install ndiswrapper???03:33
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intelikey"but the hd doesn't have a shell" yeah right.  now if you're finished showing what you don't know,,,   and are ready to listen i'll try to help you.03:33
intelikeyelse i finished messing with a dumb punk that knows everything.03:34
Digital_PioneerZabulus: You have source?03:34
Zabulus...03:34
Zabulusyeah, im new to linux, i have no clue03:34
Digital_Pioneerintelikey: Fine, what do you want me to do?03:34
intelikeyDigital_Pioneer are you ready to listen?03:34
Digital_Pioneerintelikey: Yes.03:34
Digital_Pioneerintelikey: Are you?03:34
intelikeyDigital_Pioneer sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt03:35
intelikeyif /mnt isn't there make it03:35
coreymon77Digital_Pioneer: what kind of settings are kept in the xserver.conf file?03:35
coreymon77i mean03:35
Zabulushow do i know if i have source? and if i dont, how do i get it?03:35
Digital_Pioneercoreymon77: No clue.03:35
coreymon77the xserver-xorg file03:35
Digital_PioneerZabulus: ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net03:35
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intelikeyDigital_Pioneer did that return without error ?03:36
Digital_Pioneerintelikey: Hold one.03:36
intelikeyfine i finished.03:36
airfoilhi! how to install additional package from dvd?03:36
plerkhow do i get flash 9?03:36
Digital_Pioneerintelikey: Yes, it went without error.03:36
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intelikeyto bad you blew it.03:36
intelikeylet someone else help you.03:37
Digital_Pioneerintelikey: Because I said wait a sec?03:37
Digital_PioneerShort fuse.03:37
tobiasintelikey: might my portable usb hd be formatted in a different format than ntfs, or is it detected automatically, it says ntfs in fstab, maybe its fat32 or something, could this be why it wont let me see the stuff on it even when its mounted? :)03:37
Digital_Pioneertobias: It's probably fat*.03:37
SupremeBeingAnybody familiar with fglrx?03:37
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tobiasDigital_Pioneer: but it says I dont have rights to read it for somet bizzare reason.03:38
intelikeycome in here crying about 'my mom is going to kill me' then teach us all that you know about linux    which amounts to very little.  and my patients get real thin along about there....  then i gave you one more chance, and what do you do     you ignore me.  fine.  you are igonred too.03:38
Zabulusok, how do i get source???03:38
Digital_Pioneerintelikey: You don't know what I'm working with!03:39
intelikeytobias it could be yes.03:40
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tobiasintelikey: and fat is not supported maybe?03:40
intelikeytobias sudo fdisk -l03:40
luisplerk, if you don't have x86_64, just apt-get it03:40
tobiasaha!03:40
tobiascool03:40
airfoil_hi! how to install additional package from dvd?03:40
intelikeytobias that will list the partition type03:40
tobiasintelikey: it says "HPFS/NTFS"03:40
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intelikeynow check the fs type by either fsck or mount03:41
HomerKDE 4 is out!03:41
fildono way Homer!03:41
tobiasaha03:41
Homerj/k03:41
airfoil_hi! how to install additional package from dvd?03:41
Digital_PioneerOh, HALLELUJAH! It's reinstalling the base system!03:42
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airfoil_Digital_Pioneer: u reply my question?03:42
robotgeekairfoil_: browse cdrom, right click page and install?03:42
Digital_Pioneerairfoil_: Which one?03:43
robotgeekor you can use the apt-cdrom tool03:43
intelikeytobias something like sudo mount /dev/hda8 /media -t vfat    *use the reall device*03:43
Digital_Pioneerairfoil_: Oh, do what robogeek says. :)03:43
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tobiasintelikey: it says something about running fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause severe filesystem damage, this means I should unmount it maybe?03:43
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airfoil_i have kubuntu dvd but after installed i notice it only install few packages.03:43
intelikeytobias umount it first.03:43
tobiasintelikey: oki :)03:43
airfoil_okay. i am trying now03:43
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luisHey Plerk, Apparently I can not send you a private msg cause I'm unregistered03:44
Digital_Pioneerairfoil_: Check /etc/apt/sources.list. What's in it?03:44
robotgeek!register > luis03:44
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CaseyOmahI'm having issues running ANY "Big Fish Games" in Wine or Cedega.03:45
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tobiasintelikey: I wrote "fsck /dev/sda1" and it said "fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found"03:46
CaseyOmahAny suggestions for running "Big Fish Games" in Kubuntu Edgy?03:46
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tobiasintelikey: that means its not ntfs really?03:46
Zabulusis /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build the source directory?03:46
tobiasintelikey: i feel like im learning :D03:46
tobiasthis is nice stuff03:47
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intelikeytobias no that means you dont have the ntfsutils package installed.    ok try the mount command    sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -o umask=00003:47
intelikeylets see if you get an error03:48
tobiasno error!03:48
airfoil_Digital_Pioneer: How to set repositories list in adept manager to point to my dvdrom?03:48
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tobiasit worked!03:48
tobias:D03:48
tobiasintelikey: thanks again03:48
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Zabulusis /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build the source directory?03:49
intelikeytobias and you see everything ok...03:49
tobiasyupp! :)03:49
Digital_Pioneerairfoil_: I'd use APT. Not sure which one, though.03:49
tobiasI should try to find out what I did03:49
intelikeytobias do this   grep ntfs /etc/fstab03:49
intelikeylets see what it says03:49
tobiasintelikey: /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    user,auto 0       103:50
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airfoil_Digital_Pioneer: I try to edit /etc/apt/source.list but duno how to set the url to my local dvdrom03:50
tobiasIm not sure I understand what the problem was03:50
intelikeytobias ok you need to edit that file.03:50
tobiasok03:50
intelikeysudo nano /etc/fstab03:50
airfoil_Digital_Pioneer: how to use APT?03:50
Digital_Pioneerairfoil_: Why use the DVD anyways?03:50
tobiasintelikey: oki03:51
luissI agree with that. Why would you want to use the DVD03:51
luissThe DVD is most likely outdated already03:51
airfoil_Digital_Pioneer: I try to use resipotories but it seem to be unstable.03:51
Digital_Pioneerairfoil_: I recommend finding your package on packages.ubuntulinux.org then.03:51
Zabulusis /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build the source directory?03:51
airfoil_Digital_Pioneer: I know but i am fed up with doing reset repositories.03:52
intelikeytobias make the line "/dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs user,auto 0 0"    look like  "/dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs default,fmask=111,dmask=000,auto 0 0"03:52
airfoil_very annoy03:52
Digital_Pioneerairfoil_: LOL... Can't really help you then.03:52
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billytwowillyhow do I unlock /var/cache/debconf/config.dat ?03:53
airfoil_Digital_Pioneer: Why i always lost connection with repositories?03:53
robotgeekbillytwowilly: lsof /var/cache/debconf/config.dat03:53
Zabulusis /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build the source directory?03:53
Zabulusis /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build the source directory?03:53
intelikeytobias now at the bottom of the nano editor see the guidance the ^ means the control key  so ^X  means  crtl+X   to exit and say yes  to the save question.03:53
Digital_Pioneerairfoil_: I'm no expert, as I'm sure intelikey will more than happily testify. I'm not really sure.03:53
airfoil_intelikey: Why i always lost connection with repositories?03:54
billytwowillyrobotgeek: thanks03:54
airfoil_intelikey: Please help03:54
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intelikeyairfoil_ i don't know.  pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list03:54
ZabulusANYONE:   is /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build the source directory?03:54
intelikeyZabulus should be a symlink to it yes03:55
Digital_PioneerZabulus: Source of what?03:55
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Zabulusi dont know, im trying to install ndiswrapper, it says go to the source directory and run03:56
Zabulusmake commands03:56
intelikey!ndiswapper03:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ndiswapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:56
tobiasintelikey: and now I try to turn it off and on to see if it works? I used copy paste like a ninja03:56
intelikey!ndiswrapper03:56
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:56
luissI think it means the source directory of ndiswrapper, not the kernel source03:56
luissI think03:57
Digital_PioneerZabulus: Check if you have it intalled: "modprobe ndiswrapper" See if that throws error.03:57
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CaseyOmahAnybody able to make Big Fish Games work with a Linux boot (VMWare/Wine/Cedega/etc...)?03:57
intelikeytobias if you want to test it you can.    but may i ask is that a usb interfaced drive ?03:57
Zabulusmodprobe errored03:57
tobiasintelikey: yupp03:57
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airfoil_root@laptop-kubuntu:/etc/apt# cat sources.list03:58
airfoil_/media/cdrom0/ubuntu/pool03:58
airfoil_# deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse03:58
airfoil_# deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multive03:58
airfoil_rse03:58
airfoil_# deb http://my.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted03:58
tobiasintelikey: its a hd inside a box with wires going to something inside the box and then a usb line going to the compute03:58
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tobiasr03:58
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tobiasintelikey: Im not sure what interfaced means03:58
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CaseyOmah!paste03:58
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:58
intelikeytobias so you wont be unpluging it often ?03:58
CaseyOmah!paste > airfoil_03:59
tobiasintelikey: well, Ill probably unplug it often cause I like to carry it around and get peoples stuff on it and bring it back03:59
tobiasintelikey: will that mess stuff up?03:59
intelikeytobias reason i asked, in place of defaults,  we should have said  user,users,noauto,      if it's going to be absent at boot time.04:00
airfoil_sorry!!!!!!!!!!!04:00
tobiasintelikey: aha04:00
tobiasintelikey: aha04:00
tobiasintelikey: sorry for the double aha04:00
CaseyOmahairfoil_: So long as you learn from your mistakes. :)04:00
intelikeytobias i just noticed that it was on a usb device node and thought i should ask.04:00
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intelikeyso sudo nano /etc/fstab     and correct that04:00
tobiasintelikey: if it boots without the device than the fstab will automatically be configured back to something strange?04:01
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intelikeytobias shouldn't be.    but it will give errors and a longer than normal boot time.04:01
tobiasintelikey: I dont mind, as long as I can just plug it in and that it works :)04:01
CaseyOmahWhy do people say you shouldn't hand edit fstab (or mtab)?04:01
tobiasintelikey: if noauto means I have to mount everytime then its better with auto maybe?04:02
Digital_PioneerOK, I GIVE UP! I'm going to simply reinstall Kubuntu.04:02
tobiasDigital_Pioneer: push the repair button04:02
tobiasDigital_Pioneer: it worked for me04:02
intelikeytobias it probably wont be as simple as plug it in and read it...  but plug it in, issue one command and then read it....04:02
Digital_Pioneertobias: Repair button on what?04:02
tobiasDigital_Pioneer: isnt there a fix everything thing when u boot the cd? I dont remember the exact command but something...04:03
intelikeytobias test it and see.   if you don't like it, we'll do something else.04:03
Digital_Pioneertobias: Which CD?04:03
CaseyOmahDigital_Pioneer: Live CD04:03
tobiasintelikey: thanks :)04:03
Digital_PioneerCaseyOmah: Live, or Alternate?04:03
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CaseyOmahDigital_Pioneer: Do you want normal or OEM (pre-final user)?04:04
Zabulusalright, lets see who can help... im trying to get my wireless USB internet working, at this point im trying to install ndiswrapper using this site as a guide (http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation)04:04
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tobiasintelikey: it says that only root can mount it?04:04
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Zabulusim to the part where im using make commands, but i cant get them to work04:04
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Digital_PioneerCaseyOmah: Final.04:05
CaseyOmahZabulus: I didn't need ndiswrapper to make my Dlink USB Wireless work.04:05
CaseyOmahDigital_Pioneer: Then "Desktop" A.K.A. Live CD.04:05
intelikeytobias yes that's the point i was making.    it's supposed to be 'always mounted'  the way i set it.   you can add  user,users,  to the options  if you want.04:06
ZabulusCaseOmah: how did you get it to work?04:06
airfoil_intelikey: I try to install firefox using package from dvd. it halted due to missing libmyspell3c2. where can i get that lib?04:06
CaseyOmahZabulus: Honestly, I didn't, Kubuntu did, Plug and Play.04:07
tobiasintelikey: aha :)04:07
intelikeytobias  you know how to edit your fstab now... :)04:07
intelikey!libmyspell3c204:07
ZabulusCaseyOmah: i wish that had worked for me04:07
ubotulibmyspell3c2: MySpell spellchecking library. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.1-16 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 124 kB04:07
CaseyOmahZabulus: Sorry, it was a linksys.04:07
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Zabulusmine is a netgear wpn11104:07
CaseyOmahZabulus: WUSB54Gv404:08
intelikeyairfoil_ that's in edgy main   should be on the cd04:08
tobiasintelikey: yes thanks to u :)04:08
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airfoil_intelikey: i can't find it. damn.............04:08
tiptiplittle question, i'm working by a "howto" http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html   and the guy there use package key for the repositories , i know how to do that on ubuntu but how i do it on kubuntu ??04:08
tobiasintelikey: I just remove default and add "user,users, instead rite?04:08
intelikeytobias if you want to learn how fstab works you can read   man fstab    and   man mount04:08
tobiasaha04:08
tobiascool04:08
intelikeyright.04:08
tobiasgoodie04:08
tobiasthanx04:08
luissHey Zabulus, by source-directory, it definitely means the source of ndiswrapper04:09
Zabulusok, but where is that?04:09
Digital_PioneerZabulus: You need to download it.04:09
Zabulusfrom where?04:09
CaseyOmahtobias: For a friendly man page reader, use Konqueror and type man:<command>04:09
intelikeytobias note; a comma seperated list does not contain blanks.   a common mistake is to use the space bar in a configuration file.04:09
tobiasoki!04:09
Digital_PioneerZabulus: sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper04:09
luisswherever you decompressed the file you got from the web04:09
tobiasit woooorks!04:10
tobiaswoooo04:10
Digital_Pioneerluiss: He hasn't gotten the source yet.04:10
intelikeyit's supposed to04:10
tobiaskubunt - it just worKs!04:10
coreymon77which card?04:10
luissOh, I see04:10
tobiasIm turning into a hacker now04:10
coreymon77what network card?04:10
intelikeytobias you can    cp /etc/fstab .   for a backup and if you have trubble just copy it over04:10
luissno wonder why it does not compile :)04:10
airfoil_intelikey: i found it.04:10
CaseyOmahZabulus: I haven't tried that adapter, I don't even have one laying around.04:10
tobiasoki, thanks intelikey :)04:10
CaseyOmahZabulus: Sorry.04:10
intelikeyok i'm out for a while.04:11
coreymon77what tpye of network card is it?04:11
Digital_PioneerOK, can someone tell me how to configure my installation to put EVERYTHING including programs, settings, and personal files into /home?04:11
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Digital_PioneerI want /home to be a separate partition and safe from system failures.04:12
coreymon77it is04:12
Zabulusi have a netgear wpn11104:12
CaseyOmahcoreymon77: Zabulus is using a NetGear WPN111 USB Wireless.04:12
coreymon77chipset?04:12
Digital_PioneerPartitioning it off, I can do. Keeping my settings and programs there is something I don't know how to do.04:12
coreymon77CaseyOmah: what chipset?04:12
CaseyOmahcoreymon77: I don't know.04:13
ZabulusBus 002 Device 003: ID 1385:5f0104:13
unix_infidelDigital_Pioneer: you decide where personal files go, as per user specific settings they automatically go into $HOME04:13
unix_infidelsystem settings need to be backed up by the admin.04:13
CaseyOmahDigital_Pioneer: You don't want EVERYTHING in home.04:13
TehKewl1gah why can't I run stuff in openGL anymore04:13
corinWhat does FATAL: Could not open...../fglrx.ko No such file or directory indicate?04:13
corinFglrx isn't installed?04:13
coreymon77and zabulus needs to use ndiswrapper?04:14
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TehKewl1it is04:14
Digital_PioneerCaseyOmah: I want my stuff to be safe, in case this happens again and I have to reinstall Kubuntu.04:14
coreymon77cause you shouldnt if you dont need to04:14
coreymon77Digital_Pioneer: still, your /home directory isnt made for that04:14
Zabulusi cant find any other way04:14
coreymon77if you need to04:14
coreymon77go ahead04:14
CaseyOmahDigital_Pioneer: Then you definately DON'T want most of your stuff in home, that's the least safe of all places in Linux.04:14
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luisshey coreymon77, what is the problem of ndiswrapper compared to native drivers?04:15
coreymon77but it is a little unstable04:15
coreymon77ndiswrapper is a little unstable04:15
coreymon77ive used it before, i know from experience04:15
luissI have ndiswrapper in one computer04:15
luissand native drivers in the other04:15
luissboth were a pain in the ass to install. Neither is totally flawless.04:16
Zabuluswell, if anyone can tell me an easier way, ill glady try it, but i checked netgear website and they didnt have linux drivers, and plug and play didnt work04:16
coreymon77im not saying ndiswrapper doesnt work04:16
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coreymon77but its a pain04:16
luissbut I guess it depends on the chipset and how the linux drivers are made04:16
coreymon77yes exactly04:16
CaseyOmahI know not to ask to ask, but just ask, but nobody pays me any mind. I'm trying to run BigFishGames (.com) games inside Linux (any way possible)?04:16
coreymon77when it comes to linux compatibility, chipset is everything04:17
CaseyOmahcoreymon77: You got that right.04:17
coreymon77CaseyOmah: wine, crossover office, cedega (if you are willing to pay for it)04:17
luissYou can try ndiswrapper Zabulus, it should work04:18
Zabulus...04:18
angasuleCaseyOmah: are they flash games? in that case, yes04:18
luissHave you downloaded the sources already?04:18
Zabulusi cant get ndiswrapper to install04:18
coreymon77Zabulus: im not saying that ndiswrapper doesnt work and you should never use it (i had to use it myself for a while)04:18
CaseyOmahcoreymon77: Tried wine and Cedega to no avail.04:18
CaseyOmahangasule: No, they are Win32 native.04:18
Zabulusim not sure if i have the sources04:18
Zabulusi dont know how to tell04:19
angasuleCaseyOmah: ah, then try them out with wine, they might or might not work04:19
luissIn the howto you mentioned, follow the "Downloading" section. Do not go for "bleeding edge"04:19
Zabulusi didnt, i went for stable04:19
CaseyOmahangasule: Wine and Cedega have been attempted. install fine, then fail to open the actual program.04:19
Zabulusbut i get to the part of the howto where i need to use "make" commands and get stuck04:20
coreymon77why are you guys telling him to get the ndiswrapper source04:20
angasuleCaseyOmah: well, then I guess they don't work04:20
coreymon77ndiswrapper is available on apt04:20
coreymon77there is even a graphical frontend for it04:20
CaseyOmahangasule: Should I attempt a VMWare installation?04:20
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coreymon77Zabulus: you can get ndiswrapper from apt04:21
luissWell, coreymon77, that's an idea04:21
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coreymon77there is even a graphical frontend for it on apt04:21
Zabuluscoreymonn77: whats the command?04:22
angasuleCaseyOmah: you can give that a shot, I guess, it's your time to use :) it's more likely to work than wine, too, but why do you have to run those games? no chance of finding a similar one that works natively?04:22
Digital_PioneerOK, I was hoping it wouldn't come to this, but it has. Time for total data loss.04:22
TehKewl1is there a package to handle Dell latitude shortcut keys?04:22
coreymon77Digital_Pioneer: you can kepp your home directory04:22
Agent_boboh my.   my clock was off by 0.0009 seconds... over 3 days.  :)04:22
coreymon77it will keep all of your personal settiings04:23
Digital_Pioneercoreymon77: This time, it's partitioned off from /.04:23
Digital_Pioneercoreymon77: So is /usr.04:23
Digital_Pioneercoreymon77: My old /home was backed up.04:23
TehKewl1ah I found it04:23
TehKewl1nvm04:23
Digital_Pioneercoreymon77: I did that as soon as it went south. Knoppix could still access it.04:23
coreymon77you dont have to format it on kubuntu reinstall04:23
CaseyOmahangasule: Unfortunately they are not mine to disregard, I'm troubleshooting for my sister who is a newly converted M$ user and is trying to stay out of the M$ multi-boot as much as possible.04:23
luissI guess it is probably apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils04:23
coreymon77luiss: i would assume04:24
BetaCookiesI think I smell linux!04:24
CaseyOmahangasule: Plus when they releasse a new game every day it's not likely that all of them will be findable in native clones.04:24
coreymon77you would probably want the the ndiswrapper-common package too04:24
coreymon77and ndisgtk is the name of the graphical frontend package04:25
angasuleCaseyOmah: hmm, that's a pain, sorry to hear04:25
ZabulusE: Couldn't find package ndiswrapper-common04:25
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Zabulusapt-get install ndisgtk04:26
Digital_PioneerZabulus: Just compile it yourself!04:26
Zabulus...04:26
coreymon77ndiswrapper-common04:26
ZabulusTHATS WHAT IVE BEEN TRYING!!!04:26
CaseyOmahangasule: Aprox. what do you think the chances are with VMWare?04:26
coreymon77Digital_Pioneer: why the hell would you compile it yourself when its available on apt!!!04:26
coreymon77thats completely idiotic!04:26
angasuleCaseyOmah: very good, actually, since you're actually running windows in there, it won't be a pretty solution, though04:26
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luissI cannot find ndiswrapper-common in my repositories either04:27
brohismi can't get the System Settings display & monitor page to apply my changes04:27
coreymon77okay04:27
Lam_actually, the ndiswrapper version on apt is like, super outdated04:27
coreymon77look04:27
CaseyOmahcoreymon77: I bet he wouldn't bother compliling if you could be so kind as to tell him which package names he needs.04:27
Lam_ndiswrapper-utils-1.804:27
coreymon77i have04:27
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coreymon77he doesnt seem to have he packages04:27
coreymon77thats on aot Lam_04:27
Lam_or just 'apt-cache search ndiswrapper'04:27
Digital_PioneerZabulus: Did you download the source?04:27
SupremeBeingfglrx help wanted04:27
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CaseyOmahangasule: Thanks, next time I'm over there I'll get VMWare up ang running and give it a shot.04:28
coreymon77okay look Zabulus, im gonna post my apt sources.list file up on pastebin04:28
angasuleCaseyOmah: good luck04:28
coreymon77you replace yours with mine04:28
CaseyOmahangasule: Thanks, and thanks.04:28
coreymon77run sudo apt-get update04:28
angasuleCaseyOmah: you're welcome04:28
SupremeBeingangasule: are you familiar with fglrx?04:28
Lam_SupremeBeing: it's better to just ask the question.04:28
SupremeBeingLam_: ok, sorry04:29
angasuleSupremeBeing: that's the ATI closed driver? not at all04:29
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coreymon77and then install ndiswrapper-utils-1.8 , ndiswrapper-common and ndisgtk04:29
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coreymon77is that okay zabulus?04:29
SupremeBeingI'm trying to install  fglrx, and when I run the aticonfig --initial command to creat the xorg.conf entry , it errors writing failed, bad file descriptor04:29
oemhow do i set up my 3d desktop swicther?04:29
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Lam_SupremeBeing: that means that the xorg.conf file was modified before, and didn't update the md5 hash04:30
coreymon77Zabulus: is your name registered with nickserv?04:30
jasjhi04:30
Zabulusyes04:30
SupremeBeingLam_: How do I fix it?  I don't have to reinstall do I04:30
Lam_SupremeBeing: but, you can easily go into xorg.conf, find the Video Device section, and change the Driver to "fglrx" isntead of "ati" and it'll be the same as if you had ran the command04:30
SupremeBeingLam_: I've done that, and fglrx still fails to work04:30
jasji wish install mplayer. somebody know how???04:30
SupremeBeingLam_: I've been working on this for about 4 hours.04:30
Lam_SupremeBeing: are you on an HP dv-series laptop with an AMD chipset by any chance?04:31
oemany one know aboute 3ddesktop?04:31
SupremeBeingLam_: Negative, Pentium 4 Desktop04:31
oemit was one of the first few things in adept04:31
Lam_SupremeBeing: try adding "fglrx" into the /etc/modules file04:31
SupremeBeingLam_: one moment04:32
Lam_SupremeBeing: fglrx is a pain in the ass to set up correctly. it's rare you'll get it to work the first time around, so i might just be spitting out suggestions that may or may not work04:32
Lam_SupremeBeing: hell, it's rare you'll even get it to work04:32
SupremeBeingLam_: Wow =P great... Why the hell did I buy ATI... I added that line04:32
SupremeBeingLam_: Should I restart now?04:33
Lam_SupremeBeing: yeah04:33
Lam_SupremeBeing: hopefully it'll work04:33
SupremeBeingLam_: PC or just X04:33
Lam_SupremeBeing: PC just to be safe. X doesn't always restart cleanly for some reason04:33
Agent_bobpriceless "Why the hell did I buy ATI"  hindsight04:33
SupremeBeingLam_: OK.  be back in a minute04:34
SupremeBeingAgent_bob: Lol. been having that since i realized I paid 50 bucks more than the equivalent card from nvidia...04:34
SupremeBeingAgent_bob: Lessons learned..04:34
Agent_bobLam_ pc but of the reason the /etc/modules wouldn't be read from a x reset04:34
angasuleoem: I have used 3ddesktop, yes, why?04:34
Lam_Agent_bob: yeah, which is why i suggested that.  you'd have to modprobe fglrx :/04:35
Lam_Agent_bob: it's just simpiler and less irritating to restart the PC when trying to get fglrx working lol04:35
Agent_bobyeah i restart ever 15 minutes whether i need to or not...04:36
oemi just instaled and dont know how to activate it04:36
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mhasanHi04:36
mhasanI have a question on Beryl04:37
mhasanI just installed it and everything seems to be working finr04:37
mhasanexcept when I enable it, I get all the wobly things and what not04:37
mhasanbut my application close, minimize and resize buttons have dissappeared.04:38
mhasanany ideas why?04:38
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angasule!beryl04:38
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl04:38
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SupremeBeingLam_: Let's see04:39
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oemANGASULE so do you know how i set it up after installing it from adept?04:40
SupremeBeingLam_: Doesn't appear to be working04:40
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angasuleoem: just press alt+f2 and then call '3ddesktop'04:42
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Lam_god i hate fglrx. i hope amd improves linux support on ati products. try this: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide04:42
SupremeBeingAgent_bob: lol04:42
SupremeBeingLam_: Did that about 2 hours ago04:42
SupremeBeingLam_: but what the hay, i'll do it again04:43
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luissHey, I've been wondering, what is the difference between Beryl and Compiz?04:43
Lam_that's the best i can do for support. i myself never got it to work because i was unfortunate enough to have an AMD processor with an ATI integrated motherboard04:43
Agent_bobnever can tell,  maybe you missed a step.04:43
Agent_bobnot likely.04:43
SupremeBeingLam_: I'll keep trying... I probably did miss a step, given my experience level04:43
SupremeBeingAgent_bob: =)04:44
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Lam_luiss: compiz is Novell's xgl accelerated 3d desktop.  beryl is a fork of compiz after Novell refused a potential merger from the quinnstorm project, so they forked into beryl04:44
Agent_bobyou can also ask in #ubuntu   might be someone in there with the answer you want.04:44
SupremeBeingAgent_bob: I'll do that also.  Thanks04:44
luissI see. Thanks Lam_04:45
angasuleLam_: what was quinnstorm?04:45
Agent_bobif you don't mention kde or related apps they wont know you don't belong there04:45
SupremeBeingAgent_bob: Indeed =) the fools!! :)04:45
Lam_angasule: just a community group that developed tons of plugins and performance improvements for compiz.04:45
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angasuleno one has reviewed my bug :( he must feel lonely04:46
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Agent_bob5 year old boy came home crying from his first day of school,  when asked what was wrong he said 'you know how you said if i'd keep my mouth shut they wouldn't know i was stupid?' he continued "well they found out anyway...<sobs/>"04:47
SupremeBeingangasule: You can always get him a friend to play with )04:47
mhasanthe 3ddesktop command doesn't work04:49
unix_infidelAgent_bob: heh, good one.04:49
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Agent_bobQ:      What is the difference between a duck?04:50
Agent_bobA:      One leg is both the same.04:50
angasulemhasan: do you get an error?04:50
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Agent_bobi hear that the fool is the twin of the wise, perhaps you've mistaken me for my brother ?04:51
Lotharwhat is the command to add users in console04:52
Agent_bobadduser04:52
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Agent_bobsudo that of course04:52
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SupremeBeingyikez there's like no help  in the ubuntu channel04:52
SupremeBeing800 people asking for help and .5 people helping04:52
Agent_boblol04:53
Agent_bob.5 helping  lol04:53
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TehUniall the sudden my custom kernel (edgy) refuses to boot. it hangs right after USB discovery. using the generic kernel, everything is fine. It's worked flawlessly until now. I have to use custom because i have more than 4gigs ram. Where should i start troubleshooting?04:53
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tiptiplittle question, i'm working by a "howto" http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html   and the guy there uses package key for the repositories , i know how to do that on ubuntu but how i do it on kubuntu ??04:53
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FlameMasterI'm having trouble rebooting/shutting down/closing session/restarting X window on kubuntu edgy (amd64). Whenever I do any of this, and after X shuts down, a blinking cursor stays on the screen and nothing else ever happens04:54
FlameMasterany thoughts on this?04:55
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Agent_bobFlameMaster what does ctrl+alt+backspace say at that point ?04:57
FlameMasterAgent_bob: nothing. at all.04:58
Agent_bobis it disabled in the xorg.conf ?04:58
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Agent_bobalso can you drop to a console and see what is still running04:58
FlameMasterlemme check04:59
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Admiral_ChicagoSupremeBeing: yes that is like #kubuntu better04:59
Admiral_Chicagotiptip: give me a sec, i'll help you04:59
FlameMasterAgent_bob:  I mean, the blinking cursor just stays there, I try pressing any key combination on my keyboard but to no avail04:59
FlameMasterAgent_bob:  typing won't show a thing either05:00
Agent_bobFlameMaster alt+SysRQ+E05:00
Agent_bobFlameMaster alt+SysRQ+R  ?05:00
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FlameMasterAgent_bob: SysRQ???05:00
Agent_bobyeah05:00
FlameMasterAgent_bob: SysRQ being... what key?05:01
Agent_bobbeing the sysRq key shared with print-screen  on 101 key05:01
FlameMasterAgent_bob: got it05:02
FlameMasterAgent_bob: I'll try that combination then. I have to try them on the blinking cursor part, right?05:02
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Agent_bobi thought you said that was a hang  and nothing else worked ?    if you can leave the blinking cursor part it's obviously not hung05:03
FlameMasterAgent_bob: no, I can't. Sorry for mistaking what you meant.05:04
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Agent_bobso then short answer is yes.  hang it and see if  alt+SysRq+R   and  alt+SysRq+E    do anything05:05
FlameMasterAgent_bob: ok, brb then05:05
Agent_bobr should reset the keyboard to xlate and e should end all processes05:05
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Agent_bobTehUni seeing that no one has answered you.   there is a #kernel  you can ask there.    i really don't have any good advice there.05:07
TehUnithanks05:08
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Agent_bobis there a doctor in the house05:15
Lotharhow do i search for files in console05:15
Agent_bobfind05:15
Agent_bobLothar more simply put  find / -name <what.you.want.to.find>05:16
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Agent_bobbut that's not the best approach for that05:16
Lotharwhat would be05:17
Agent_bobstarting in the dir you suspect it to be in.05:17
Agent_bobLothar what are you looking for ?05:17
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Lotharit is all good... i have found the file05:18
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Launchpadim backck05:18
Launchpadgnome you still here05:18
Lothari was looking for welcome.msg05:18
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Agent_bobin /usr/share/ ?05:18
FlameMasterAgent_bob: it's a complete hangup. Tried twice and no key combination could get me out of it05:18
Agent_bobFlameMaster ok that's definitive then05:19
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Agent_bobFlameMaster now you need a way around that...05:19
flaccid_ok dudes. what else is cool and new in kde land. katapult is cool for example05:19
FlameMasterAgent_bob: yes, I do.05:20
Agent_bobflaccid_ finding a way to keep FlameMaster's box from hanging solid on logout  would be way kewl05:20
Dr_willisnever logout. :)05:20
Agent_bobnow there's a thought.05:21
FlameMasteryeah I'll just hard reset D:05:21
flaccid_is it from logout of a certain DE or any DE?05:21
Launchpadif no one is busy could someone help me update my ubuntu up to the 6.06 lts update with aptget\05:21
FlameMasterlogout/shutdown/reboot etc05:21
Dr_willis!update05:21
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)05:21
Agent_bobor use  alt+SysRq+U  alt+SysRq+B    which would remount,ro and reset the box....05:21
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Launchpadty05:22
Agent_bobFlameMaster that's kde specific or have you tried any other ?05:22
FlameMasterkubuntu, I don't have gnome installed05:22
Launchpadis there a ubuntu update page like that willis?05:22
Launchpadim on ubuntu05:23
Dr_willisNo idea.. check the wiki pates.05:23
Dr_willispages05:23
robotgeek!upgrade05:23
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)05:23
Dr_willisI always find it safer to do a clean install.05:23
Agent_bobLaunchpad your sources list look like that ?05:23
Launchpadi would do clean isntall but i have no free cd r discs laying around05:23
FlameMasterAgent_bob: this is a clean install, btw05:24
Launchpadgive me one sec i gotta find out where it went lol05:24
Admiral_ChicagoFlameMaster: i think the command is gksu "dist-upgrade" -d05:24
Dr_willisLaunchpad,  i would advise waiting then till you get some. :)05:24
Launchpadlol well i got that offical ubunutu book coming with i think has 6.06 lts on it05:24
FlameMasterAdmiral_Chicago: wrong person?05:24
Agent_bobLaunchpad  you can just sudo cp dapper /etc/apt/sources.list  if you like, and then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:25
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Launchpadroot@ubuntu:~# sudo cp dapper /etc/apt/sources.list05:26
Launchpadcp: cannot stat `dapper': No such file or directory05:26
Launchpadi know real basics of linux lol05:26
Agent_bobso get in the dir you dl'd it too05:26
Launchpadi was taught of fedora core 5 for one month about 2 years ago lol05:26
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Launchpadwhere does xchat default to on downlads05:27
Agent_bobok...   find ~/ -name dapper -exec sudo cp '{}' /etc/apt/sources.list -i \;05:27
Admiral_Chicagomaybe05:27
Agent_bobthat will do it for you ^05:27
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Launchpadcp /etc/apt/sources.{list,list.bak}; sed -i s/dapper/edgy/g /etc/apt/sources.list05:28
Launchpadthat?05:28
Launchpadalthugh i dont think ubuntu 5.10 is dappy05:29
Agent_bobthat would go to edgy from dapper05:29
Launchpadim not sure what 5.10 was lol05:30
Agent_bobFlameMaster yes that's the dido it cut.05:30
ranceok, I think I figured out my sound card problem, but Im really not sure what to do about it.  the output of aplay -l shows me that the driver supports two different devices one with surround sound and the other without.  Now according to alsamixer the surround sound device is whats in use, how do I change it05:30
Agent_bobLaunchpad breezy05:30
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Launchpadi see05:30
Lothari wish to mount sda2 to /home/ftp/80gig how do i do that05:30
FlameMasterAgent_bob: huh?05:30
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Launchpadwell i found this05:30
Launchpadhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades05:30
eilker!samba05:30
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT05:30
Agent_bobsudo mount /dev/sda2  /home/ftp/80gig05:30
Agent_bobLothar ^05:31
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Agent_bobLaunchpad did you fix you sources.list yet or not ?05:31
Agent_bobare you now changing your mind about the version you want to upgrade too ?05:31
Dr_willisLothar,  edit the fstab and put in the correct entry/path for the mountpoint.05:32
Launchpadno searching for it lol05:32
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Dr_willisLothar,  be sure that dir exists first, befor mounting.05:32
Lothar!fstab05:32
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions05:32
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Agent_bobLaunchpad it's /etc/apt/sources.list    the dl will be in ~/.xchat2/downloads/  most likely05:32
Agent_bobiirc05:33
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Agent_bobLothar you didn't specify what that fs was.  if it's something M$  you'll want some *mask options05:34
LotharAgent_bob it is a brand spankin new hdd05:34
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Lotharit is just to use as xtra space for FTP05:34
Launchpadok i found the sources.list05:34
Launchpadnow to find the xchat05:35
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Launchpadwhat does ~ mean?05:35
Agent_bobyour home05:36
Agent_bobecho ~05:36
Launchpadoo05:36
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Launchpad/echo ~05:36
Agent_bobsame as echo $HOME05:36
monehola05:36
Launchpadsorry im just so new to this.. havent had much chance to mess with linux05:36
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Dr_willis'gotta learn to crawl, befor you can walk' :)05:37
flaccid_i have a kubuntu live cd. how can i boot it in windows?05:37
Dr_willisGo get that Orieally Using Bash book.. and keep it in the bathroom,, then eat a high fiber diet.05:37
Launchpadi look in prefs for xchat it told me lol05:37
Admiral_Chicagoflaccid_: turn on the computer...05:37
Agent_bobFlameMaster it could indeed.   you should take that info to #kernel  and act like you know what you are doing and ask if anyone could point you at info about that.    maybe google a little first wouldn't hurt.05:37
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Dr_willisflaccid_,  you 'boot' the pc.. not windows. :)   Put cd in the drive... reboot.05:37
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flaccid_Admiral_Chicago: isn't there a vm05:38
Launchpadgrr it doesnt have .xchat for me05:38
Admiral_Chicagoflaccid_: make sure you can boot to CD.05:38
Zabulusok, trying to use ndiswrapper or ndisgtk i get a locale error, anyone have a suggestion?05:38
Admiral_Chicago!vmware05:38
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare05:38
Launchpadall it has is /home/desktop05:38
Admiral_Chicagoi'm not sure how to use vmware...05:38
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Launchpaderr /home/$user/desktop05:39
Agent_bobLaunchpad no it's not.  there are tons of .file and .dirs in there   ls -A ~05:39
Dr_willisvmware server is very easy to use.. just a little bit of effort to get it installed..05:39
Dr_willisLaunchpad,  its /home/USERNAME/Desktop :P last i looked.05:39
Launchpadooo im looking in gui no wonder loll05:39
FlameMasterAgent_bob: thanks, will do05:39
Agent_bobFlameMaster and good luck with it.05:40
FlameMasterAgent_bob: I will surely need lots of that, thanks05:40
Agent_bobLaunchpad ls ~/.xcha*05:40
flaccid_well i think its stupid how the live cd has an autostart with windows programs to install, but not a vm like qemu for the live cd image05:41
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Launchpadroot@ubuntu:~# ls ~/.xcha*05:41
Launchpadls: /root/.xcha*: No such file or directory05:41
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Agent_bobroot ?05:42
Agent_bobroot ?05:42
Launchpadyeah for the update05:42
Dr_willisRoot?!?!?!05:42
Dr_willis:)05:42
Zabulusok, trying to use ndiswrapper or ndisgtk i get a locale error, anyone have a suggestion?05:42
flaccid_i would like a root05:42
Dr_willisI have '.xchat2'05:42
Launchpadwouldnt let me do anythign without going to root for the apt-get update05:42
Dr_willisI would like a Root Beer.05:42
Dr_willisLaunchpad,  Your logic is.. somewhat illogical. :)05:42
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Launchpadsorry hehe like i said im still a noob05:43
Dr_williswhen xchat is ran.it normally creates the .xchat2 dir05:43
Admiral_ChicagoLaunchpad: ls ~/.xcha   (then hit TAb)05:43
Dr_willisIf you are running xchat as a user, you need the users /home/USERNAME/.xchat2 dir. Not /root/.xchat205:43
Agent_bobLaunchpad as normal you.  do this;  find ~/.xchat -name dapper -exec sudo cp {} /etc/apt/sources.list \;     like i asked you to an hour ago.05:43
Agent_bobnot as root  ^05:44
Agent_bobnot root !05:44
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Launchpadok so in terminal i need to get out of root correct?05:45
Agent_boberr xchat2   that   now you got me fusseled.05:45
Agent_bobjust open another konsole if you like05:45
Dr_willisor use the 'exit' command to close the root session.05:45
Dr_willisor make a new tab. :)05:45
Zabulusok, trying to use ndiswrapper or ndisgtk i get a locale error, anyone have a suggestion?05:45
Zabulusok, trying to use ndiswrapper or ndisgtk i get a locale error, anyone have a suggestion?05:45
Launchpadim runing ubunutu.. no konsole.. just terminal lol05:45
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Agent_bobso use the next tty05:46
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Dr_willisgnome-terminal ? :) or ya mean the 'console'05:46
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Admiral_Chicago!repeat | Zabulus05:46
ubotuZabulus: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience05:46
Launchpadit says terminal in applications lol05:46
coreymon77!patience05:47
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines05:47
Dr_willisI must have about 4 different 'terminal' programs installed.05:47
Agent_bobnever mind.   just have fun setting up your sources.list   and then   do    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade         good luck with it.05:47
Launchpadty05:47
Agent_bobi'm outa here.  gnight05:47
Launchpadim getting close lol05:47
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Launchpadthe terminal is whats getting to me.. been so long sence ive done it05:48
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Launchpadbecuase cd desktop doesnt like to work lol05:49
Launchpadgrr terminal needs to goto dos mode lol05:51
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FlameMasterAgent_bob: btw, this problem is also happening when using running a Live desktop, and whenever debian-installer tries to reboot05:52
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Lothar!dhclient05:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dhclient - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:54
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knappdoes anyone know what the name of the website is that has interactive videos of different operating systems?05:55
Alimahhi, I have a headphone that requires software installation, but it doesn't seem to be compatible with kubuntu, any ideas on how I may make it work on kubuntu?05:56
Dr_willisAlimah,  you are refering to USB headphones?05:57
Alimahyes05:57
Dr_willisI would have to say. check the ubuntu/kubuntu wikis for 'usb audio' devices like those.. I havent any experience with them05:58
Alimahthank you!05:58
Dr_willisI rember when USB-Speakers were to be the next 'cool' thing... years ago.. heh - they never caught on.05:58
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Alimahnah, I prefer headphones05:59
AlimahI'm nocturnal05:59
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Dr_willisOnly usb audio device i can justify.. are the USB skype phones. :)06:00
Dr_willisI do have a usb headset.. but thas for the Playstation06:00
flaccidwhat is the graphical mount tool in kubuntu?06:01
Dr_willisGraphical Mount tool... Hmm.. to 'edit' the fstab/mount points? or what exactly?06:01
flaccidto mount a partition06:01
abattoirflaccid: media:/ in konq.06:01
flaccidi can't do it in cli for some reason06:01
abattoirflaccid: or /media if you are using edgy06:01
flaccidi need to mount a fedora lvm06:01
Dr_willisIm guessing you need to figure out why you cant do it from the command line..06:02
Dr_willisI dont think any GUI tool will be that much smarter.06:02
flaccidyeah it doesn't come in media:/06:02
flaccidwell i've mounted it before without a problem, i don't know why i can't now06:02
flaccidcli says its busy06:02
Dr_willisIts busy so you cant MOUNT it?06:03
Dr_willisnormally you cant unmount it if its busy. :)06:03
flaccidits not mounted06:03
flaccidmount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /mnt/hdb1 busy06:04
Dr_williswhat is you rmount command you are using?06:04
flaccidsudo mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb106:04
flaccidignore the name of the dir06:05
Dr_willisheh06:05
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Dr_willisand the 'mount' command by itself dosent show it being mounted allready?06:05
flaccidi think something must be wrong with the partition06:05
flaccidespecially if its not coming up in media:/06:05
flaccidno its NOT mounted06:05
knappCan anyone offer me advice on 'optimizing' kde for a laptop. I don't want Xubuntu. I'd just like for it to boot faster.06:05
Dr_willisknapp,  disable all the services you dont need would be the main speed boost for 'booting' times06:06
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flaccidlooks like stuffed partition label at this point06:07
knappdr willis how can I disable services?06:07
fildowell fix it06:08
fildo;p06:08
Dr_willisread up on how they work.. and try out the various 'SysV' init tools for a nice gui. I think that still works in edgy.. not sure..06:08
flaccidgoddam it!06:08
Dr_williswasent edgy sypposed to use some new init system?06:08
flaccidactually i guess it is this disk that is stuffed06:08
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HobbseeDr_willis: yes, it does06:09
HobbseeDr_willis: upstart06:09
chungnhIs there anybody who use speedcom+ ADSL Modem here?06:09
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Dr_williswell night all....   Live in a world of your own, but always welcome visitors.06:12
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wordAnyone here ever setup freenx? the repo suggested in the wiki seems to have a broken freenx package06:25
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Lotharanyone got some programs for the G15 keyboard06:27
Lothar!g1506:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about g15 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:27
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kamuiis there any software I can use to burn two divx encoded home videos to a playable dvd in kubuntu?06:32
singinmatt13does k3b do that?06:32
kamuik3b only has options for data dvd it seems06:33
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bLaZeDKadran, try tovid or devede06:33
bLaZeD* kamui06:34
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bLaZeDhehe06:34
kamuibLaZeD: neither are in the ubuntu apt directory huh?06:34
bLaZeDkamui, umm devede should be06:35
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kamuiI did an apt-cache search for devede, nothing06:36
kamuibut i found a website06:36
bLaZeDroob@WeEdBuNtU:~$ apt-cache search devede06:36
bLaZeDdevede - Video DVD creator06:36
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bLaZeDkamui, maby u need to enalbe more repos?06:37
kamuiI thought I had everything06:37
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sukka-4-luvholy smidgels06:39
sukka-4-luvi got about 45 repos06:40
singinmatt13holy06:41
sukka-4-luvi gotta kleen house06:41
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sukka-4-luvdefraggin the raid06:43
sukka-4-luv19+ hrs and countin for defrag06:43
singinmatt13holy shnikies06:43
sukka-4-luvwell its like 2.85 Tb06:43
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singinmatt13well then...that's reasonable06:44
HawkwindbLaZeD: Devede is in the repos for Edgy, not Dapper06:44
Hawkwind!info devede06:44
RoKFiTi'm having a problem with ktorrent.  it's downloading extremely slow, and it's a pretty popular torrent, i'm almost positive it's the connection.06:44
ubotudevede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 243 kB, installed size 664 kB06:44
bLaZeDHawkwind, ah06:44
Hawkwind!info devede dapper06:44
ubotuPackage devede does not exist in dapper06:44
singinmatt13hm...06:45
sukka-4-luvrokfit, are you behind a firewall?06:47
RoKFiTyes06:47
sukka-4-luvcos i had the same problem, open a port and the connect will speed up06:48
RoKFiTi just looked again and now it's going06:48
RoKFiTthanks sukka-4-luv06:48
sukka-4-luvmost of the time the torrent trackers are all jacked up06:48
sukka-4-luvold krap06:48
sukka-4-luvn/p06:49
RoKFiTwhat does that me06:49
sukka-4-luvno problem06:49
RoKFiThow is the torrent tracker jacked up?06:49
sukka-4-luvthe report times are all lagged out, not that fresh06:49
RoKFiTbecause of the firewall?06:50
sukka-4-luvnot the firewall06:50
RoKFiTjust the torrent?06:50
sukka-4-luvjust the trakers06:50
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RoKFiTokay.06:50
RoKFiTwell thanks again.06:50
sukka-4-luvlook at the last update on the torrent on the tracker, its usually a few days old06:51
sukka-4-luvi just cant believe how small linux packages are06:52
mendredhi has anyone installed ardour on edgy?06:54
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kamuithanks06:56
kamuilooks like I don't even have enough hard drive space to make the movie :(06:56
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peacefullyhi07:02
peacefullyhola mi nombre es Peacefully07:02
peacefullyhay alguien cercas07:02
robotgeek!es07:03
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.07:03
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sukka-4-luvaww man... now adept is holding07:07
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wordHmm...what could this mean - http://pastebin.ca/265322 ? I get it while installing freenx07:08
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sukka-4-luvwhy does thing keep waiting for headers, and just stay there????07:09
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xiO___.07:11
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robotgeeksomerville32: see07:12
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somerville32Bot07:13
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somerville32I'm guessing a CTCP flood or something07:13
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wordOdd..07:15
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robotgeekword: bot attack, the word is07:15
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wordheh, robotgeek - any idea what this could mean - http://pastebin.ca/265322 ?07:15
robotgeekquux: join / part flooding, it stoppede :)07:16
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worddoesn't seem to be over07:18
word:P07:18
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tiptiphow i mount my sata disk ? (atm there is only windows on it)07:18
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kaihow can i get .wmv support?07:19
robotgeek!restricted | kai07:19
ubotukai: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:19
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flaccidanybody every set up ntfs on boot from live cd?07:24
flaccidhmm07:24
flaccidscrap that i need write access07:25
robotgeekflaccid: unlikely. cause you need the ntfs-3g module to write, i think07:25
robotgeekand that is probably not on the cd07:25
flaccidi'm in a predicament07:25
wordrobotgeek: so any idea what this could be caused by - http://pastebin.ca/26532207:25
somerville32Just install that module?07:25
somerville32Oh wait07:26
somerville32Do you need to reboot to install a module?07:26
robotgeekno, not really. mount -a works07:26
T3hWiz0rdrobotgeek: how was that piiza, mang?07:27
T3hWiz0rdwait wrong channel07:27
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kairobotgeek: Thanx my wmv movies are running now07:27
tiptiphow i mount a sata drive that on /dev/sda2 ?07:27
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robotgeektiptip: you here?07:30
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Lotharri have been using proftpd for my server for some time now and all is good, but yesterday i installed Lampp and now all the dir's for the users are different07:38
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robotgeekLotharr: dapper or edgy?07:40
linopilI saw  isapnp   card  was detected  on boot where  is the log file   to  see  it again ?07:41
robotgeeklinopil: dmesg | less07:41
LotharrEDGY07:42
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lbulbanyone here for a question on servers...07:43
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robotgeekLotharr: not sure. my proftpd broke yesterday, i don't know why!07:43
robotgeek!ask07:43
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:43
lbulbsmart..: ) how do I connect to the server of undernet07:44
Lotharrrobotgeek it seems as though it takes ages to display the welcome message and get the List comand07:44
robotgeeklbulb: which client are you using?07:44
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lbulbrobotgeek: konversation, kubuntu07:45
robotgeeklbulb: file -> quick connect, or connect to server07:45
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lbulbi'm not sure which version...clueless actually..but i know how to enter the server address..07:45
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lbulbthere is no list of servers, i have to type in the servers addrss...is it irc.undernet.net?07:46
robotgeeklbulb: yes07:46
knapp_Where can I find a log of the systems startup?07:46
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lbulbrobotgeek: i guess there is something else that is not working because i cant connect07:47
robotgeekknapp_: /var/log/messages07:47
robotgeeklbulb: if you are on a university network, they might prevent connecting to irc. but i see you are on irc already :)07:47
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unix_infidelrobotgeek: he's not on a uni network.07:48
unix_infidelunless the uni's isp is verizon :P07:48
robotgeekheh07:48
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chungnhtest07:48
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unix_infideland i seee you changed the username :P07:48
robotgeekchungnh: test back07:48
lbulbrobotgeek: yeah..and if I intall mIRC on the university comptuer, in a temporary folder it can run...but i've had problems wit htaht true07:48
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unix_infidellbulb: no, he's talking about actually using their network to connect to freenode servers.07:50
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lbulbunix: ) i'm so new here.07:51
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aladinvnso do i07:52
lbulb<unix_infidel: i'm using verizon, ir's a wireless connection.07:52
aladinvnso am i07:52
unix_infidellbulb: try tab completion.07:52
unix_infidelfor instance, my nick is unix[then press teb] 07:52
unix_infideltab&07:52
unix_infideltab*07:52
lbulbunix_infidel: aha07:53
aladinvntab&07:53
lbulbunix_infidel: neat.07:53
robotgeekaladinvn: tab button07:53
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aladinvnIs there anybody who are using speedcom+ ADSL modem?07:55
robotgeekaladinvn: maybe also search the wiki07:56
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lbulbrobotgeek: about the undernet conneciotn--would it make a difference if I try to connecting to different ports?07:57
robotgeeklbulb: not sure, should not need to07:57
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bLaZeD!partioner08:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about partioner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:00
bLaZeDwhats a good partoner08:00
bLaZeD*partioner08:00
wordgparted08:01
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bLaZeDthanks word08:01
wordnp08:02
Lotharri have been using proftpd for my server for some time now and all is good, but yesterday i installed Lampp and now all the dir's for the users are different08:02
Lotharrit seems as though it takes ages to display the welcome message and get the List comand08:02
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robotgeekbLaZeD: qtparted also works08:03
bLaZeDrobotgeek, ahh k thanks08:04
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donkeykongsup people08:14
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linopilcrimsun:  on alsa  pls08:35
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lbulbhas anyone installed Berkeley Madonna through Wine on Kubuntu?08:49
lbulbBerkeley Madonna is a Windows program08:49
linopilcrimsun:  there ?08:51
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linopildead hour on freenode08:57
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stephanohello. My usplash on the start is kubuntu, and on the shutdown is ubuntu. How can i make it all to ubuntu theme?08:58
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Voker57hiya09:07
Voker57how can i shutdown the X server?09:08
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Voker57I am installing nvidia drivers09:09
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sean_me too09:10
Voker57Are you successful?09:10
sean_sort of09:11
sean_Question - Cant startx API mismatch nvidia kernel module older than X module, after running nvidia installer09:11
sean_when I install using the N09:11
sean_NVIDIA installer09:11
Voker57Can you help me? I cannot shutdown the X to start installing09:11
sean_are you in the gui09:12
Voker57Yep09:12
sean_try logging out and then starting into terminal seesion09:12
sean_session09:12
Voker57er09:13
sean_yep thats what I said when I tried this the first time09:13
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sean_trick with Linux is that you can do almost everything from the command line and many things only from the command line09:14
sean_there is a package out there with the NVIDIA drivers in it09:15
sean_which you could install from adept09:15
sean_apt-get, aptitude, kynaptic etc09:15
francesco_hi2all09:15
notechuh, he logged out when you told him to :)09:15
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sean_yeah didnt see that09:16
Voker57Now it says that there is no kernel interface for my kernel09:16
Voker57and no files to compile it from09:16
notechyou need the kernel-headers09:17
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sean_Question - Cant startx API mismatch nvidia kernel module older than X module, after running nvidia installer09:18
Voker57linux-kernel-headers?09:19
notechsounds right09:19
Voker57I already have them09:19
notechare they for the same version as your running kernel?09:20
Voker57er09:20
Voker572.6.1109:20
Voker57how to look at kernel version?09:20
notechrunnig kernel, uname -r09:20
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Voker572.16.15-2609:22
Voker57aww damn09:22
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Voker57why include not the latest headers in install?09:22
sean_good question09:22
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Voker57the bad thing about ubuntu is absense of lots of dev sources09:23
notech2.6.11 sounds kind of old, like maybe you did an upgrade from a prior kubuntu version?09:23
Voker57No, i did not09:23
notechseems wierd then09:24
Voker57hmm only 7 mbytes to download09:24
Voker57although it's written 22209:24
Voker572209:24
Voker57i mean09:24
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shinobi2anone got 6.10's wireless working?09:26
shinobi2anyone got 6.10's wireless working?09:26
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Voker57okay let's have one more try09:27
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EdLinshinobi2: I've got it working on ubuntu, but what I do should be doable on kubuntu too.09:33
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EdLinshinobi2: are you there?09:35
shinobi2EdLin: yes09:36
shinobi2EdLin: how do you fix it?09:36
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EdLinshinobi2: it's several command-line steps that work for me.09:37
EdLinshinobi2: first I run ifconfig09:37
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EdLinshinobi2: is your wireless driver listed when you do that?09:37
shinobi2EdLin: i have the hardware error09:38
EdLinshinobi2: ifconfig gives you a hardware error??09:38
shinobi2my wireless works in 6.06 out of the box, but did not on 6.1009:38
wizardquick question to anyone in here familiar with grub?09:38
shinobi2wizard: ask away09:38
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shinobi2wizard: fire your questions09:39
wizardI've put my old harddrive into another computer, I would prefer to simply boot it up as it was before it left the other computer. I do know this will cause problems, especially with drivers, i am prepared for that battle head. I am in the process of reinstalling grub.09:39
EdLinshinobi2: I don't think I can help much beyond saying to google with your error... :-/09:39
wizardI've got the jist that it is along the lines of: mount the / drive09:39
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wizardrun the command grub-install /dev/device09:39
wizardquestion is... how do I check the device name?09:39
wizard(ohh and also i know to chroot it)09:40
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shinobi2wizard: don't know, but usually, (hd0,x) (fd0,x)09:40
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EdLinshinobi2: I'm lucky that my driver's in the ubuntu kernel, so that kind of problem I'm not having.09:40
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shinobi2EdLin: good for you, maybe ubuntu 7 will be better for me09:41
Framonhello09:41
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EdLinshinobi2: here's a good starting point:09:41
EdLinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:41
RawSewageWhat MMORPGs work on Kubuntu09:41
llutzMoin09:41
wizardshinobi2: it wants it listed as a /dev device09:41
Framonhow could help09:41
wizardif its the only mounted device on that chroot, its /hda right?09:41
Framon???09:41
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wizard/dev/hda* blah09:43
wizardtoo sick for this crappola lol09:43
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Framonhow could help me to mount a flash usb mp3 player?09:44
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Framonplease09:44
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wizardFramon: sometimes usb devices have compatibility issues, depending on chipset.09:45
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wizardFramon: plug the device in and run the command "lsusb", see if the device appears in the list.09:45
Framonit is reconized09:45
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wizardFramon: alright, so now you're just having trouble mounting it?09:45
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FramonBus 003 Device 003: ID 0ed1:7636 WinMaxGroup09:45
wizardAlright, thats partially good news.09:45
wizardSo where is the problem coming in? Mounting the device?09:46
Framonmounting the devices09:46
Framonexact09:46
wizardAlright. all usb mass storage devices are /dev/sd*09:46
wizardthey're mounted as sata for some odd reason.09:46
Framonhow do i know the service09:46
wizardFramon: trying to remember... Forgive me, I have a terrible cold.09:47
Framonno problem09:47
wizardFramon: one way to do it (this is from gentoo) is to type: ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/usb*09:48
wizardbut you can also type: cat /proc/partitions09:48
Framonlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2006-12-03 09:37 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Digital_MP3_Player_23DE8E2A95F3CA07 -> ../../scd009:48
wizardonce we know what device it is, its time to mount it.09:48
wizardalright, so the device is scd009:48
wizardso lets go ahead and mount it...09:48
wizardI assume its probably a vfat partition...09:49
Framoni it's a fat3209:49
wizardlets try something like this...09:49
wizardfirst... mkdir /mount/mp309:49
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wizardnext...: mount -t vfat /mnt/mp3 /dev/sdc0 noauto,user,exec,sync, 0 009:50
wizardif all is good, the device should mount.09:50
Framonhold on a sec09:50
wizardnext...: mount -t vfat /mnt/mp3 /dev/sdc0 noauto,user,exec,sync 0 009:50
wizardthat ones corrected, one too many commas.09:50
shinobi2wizard: grub use hd0,x, hd1,x instead of hda and hdb09:50
wizardshinobi2: d0h... lol09:50
Framonthe console say that I not able to create the mount/mp309:50
notechyou mixed creating /mount/.. and /mnt/..09:50
Framondo i have to do it as admin09:50
wizardFramon: you need to do it as root...09:50
wizardFramon: as typed: sudo mkdir /mnt/mp309:51
Framonok09:51
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wizardfollow with: sudo mount -t vfat /mnt/mp3 /dev/sdc0 noauto,user,exec,sync 0 009:51
wizardif all goes well, the device should mount and be ready for you to move media to/from.09:52
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wizardif this fails... you can try replacing vfat with auto... if that fails, there can be some chipset compatibility issues with the kernel.09:52
Framonthanks09:53
FramonI will try09:53
wizardFramon: lemme know if it works.09:53
Framonwizard09:56
wizardFramon: yessir?09:56
Framonwhen I type su i get the following su: Authentication failure and I'm sure of my password....09:56
wizardFramon: in kubuntu, su doesn't exist... everything is done via "Sudo"09:57
notechcase sensitive you know09:57
wizardi know, accidental09:57
Framonshittt09:57
Framonsorry09:57
wizardnotech: like i said, im sick lol09:57
wizardFramon: its okay, it used to confuse me at first lol.09:57
FramonI just wake up09:57
notechlol, i'm in that club too09:57
wizardnotech: whatchu got? cold?09:57
notechyeah09:57
wizardheh. Well, we've got t-shirts on the way.09:58
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notechheh09:58
wizardFramon: one way I always remember it is to think... instead of just su... i add do to it too... sudo :-)09:58
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wizardnotech: im having a kubuntu box out in my garage whop my butt right now. It's sure rippin me up with grub lol10:00
wizardtrying to avoid formatting the filesystem, even though I know once I get it working i am going to hit some driver issues from no other.10:00
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wizardbrb, gonna run out into the freezing cold garage and try to reinstall grub AGAIN!10:03
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linopil!torrent10:07
ubotuTorrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html10:07
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linopilwas there an atorrent as well ? like amule?10:08
wizardbah i give up10:08
wizardlinopil: a lot of clients exist the bot only really knows a few10:08
linopilwizard  ?give up ? wizards  give up ? ;-)10:09
wizardwhen its 20 degrees out in the garage yes i give up lol10:09
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linopil20 degrees  F you mean10:10
wizardyeah10:10
notecha bit cold to run a box in10:10
wizardand I'm already sick, so its even worse for me10:10
linopildrink some tea go to sleep10:10
wizardnotech: boxan likesa da colda10:10
Framonwizzard : sudo mount -t vfat /mnt/mp3 /dev/sdc0 noauto,user,exec,sync 0 0   did not work10:10
notechit can collect moisture that way as parts get warm10:10
wizardFramon: can you give me the error it gave you?10:11
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wizardnotech: there is a dehumidifier in the room10:11
linopilktorrent installed already10:11
notechrisky, that won't do much inside the box10:11
wizardits *typically* not below the 40's ehre.10:11
Framona long long text ... in fred with the info of the command10:11
wizardand 40's are fine for a boxan.10:11
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wizardnotech: not that it'll help much, but i do have the box open10:12
adept_x!kbfx10:12
ubotukbfx is a replacement menu for KDE with enhanced features10:12
wizardguys, i'll brb10:13
wizardbooting to kubuntu10:13
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Sean00anyone with experience with the nvidia driver install?10:13
wordSean00: what can I do for ya10:14
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Sean00I installed the nvdia driver with the installer10:14
Sean00and I can startx into the gui10:14
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Sean00but if I reboot x wont start and I get a API mismatch erro10:15
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T3hWiz0rdokay, back10:15
noiesmoSean00, did you install nvidia driver from nvidia or thru repos10:15
Sean00kernel version 1.0-7??? X version 1.0-962910:16
Sean00from nvidia10:16
noiesmoyou need to disable the restricted module one10:16
noiesmofrom loading at boot time10:16
Sean00noiesmo: how?10:17
noiesmoin this file  /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common10:17
noiesmoadd this to end DISABLED_MODULES="nv"10:17
T3hWiz0rdbrb10:17
noiesmoSean00, should do it for you10:17
Sean00thanks noiesmo10:18
noiesmoSean00, :)10:18
T3hWiz0rdanyone know why kbfx won't actually apply to kubuntu for me?10:18
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Framonwizard: even when I try to mount it via the interface it told me dev/sdc0 does not exits and mounting error code 3210:22
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linopilamarok needs a plugin for aac10:25
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Framonwizard: now it's telling me "mount: block devide dev/scd0 is write protected. mounting read only \n mound /dev/scd0 can't read superblock"10:26
linopil!restricted10:26
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:26
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devinuswhat are some of the KDE meta packages for Kubuntu?10:42
Jucatokdebase, kde-core, kde10:42
devinuskdewebdev, kde-extras, what-else?10:42
RoC_MM_0wIf I was to choose Automatix or EasyUbuntu, is there a clear winner?  I'd prefer Automatix but I heard some bad stuff about it on one of these channels.10:42
RoC_MM_0wkubuntu-desktop10:42
Jucatokubuntu-desktop is not a KDE metapackage10:43
Jucatokdebase, kde-core, kde, kdepim10:43
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HirvinenRoC_MM_0w: A clear winner is reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation10:43
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RoC_MM_0wWhat?  I thought kubuntu-desktop grabbed all the kubuntu KDE stuff10:44
Hirvinenkubuntu-desktop is way much more than just KDE.10:44
RoC_MM_0woh10:45
JucatoRoC_MM_0w: KDE doesn't have OO.o, for example10:45
RoC_MM_0wTrue.10:45
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voicu!rar10:46
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free10:46
voicu!info unrar-free10:47
ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB10:47
SillyZmorning... quick q on smp kernels..... are they for 64bit processors or 32bit?10:47
m3m0r3xXxHow to install drivers for nvidia geforce 7300LE and monitor Samsung720n ?10:48
SillyZrunning a core duo here, and generic seems fine, but try an smp kernel and is unable to mount fs on 00:0010:48
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m3m0r3xXx!nvidia10:49
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:49
m3m0r3xXx!samsung10:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about samsung - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:49
Hirvinen!smp10:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:49
m3m0r3xXx!monitor10:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:49
m3m0r3xXxdamn10:49
m3m0r3xXxI need drivers for my monitor :)10:49
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RoC_MM_0w!freeze10:50
ubotufreeze: ZeroC Freeze related utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.0-2 (edgy), package size 605 kB, installed size 1620 kB10:50
RoC_MM_0w!antifreeze10:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about antifreeze - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:50
RoC_MM_0whehe10:50
SillyZantifreeze defination;  Hide her night gown10:50
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voicuok, i'm really stupid. i just deleted a file (not to trash). can i get it back with some kind of recovery program?10:51
voicu!recovery10:52
ubotuTo rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"10:52
voicu!file recovery10:52
ubotufile: Determines file type using "magic" numbers. In component main, is standard. Version 4.17-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 100 kB10:52
Jucatoif you deleted it from the command line or Shift+Del, it's lost10:52
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jasinhi10:53
Nukedho10:53
Nukedhi10:53
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nagyvhow can I find a program on launchpad? there is a weird translation to Hungarian (I don't get what it wants) on the convenience tab of the kdm login manager, how can I find this on launchpad? which program is this? (kdm, system settings, just a module?)10:53
jasinThe kernel seems outdated in kubuntu.10:53
voicujucato, i thought so too. but for example in windows there are programs to recover lost files10:53
voicuand they work too10:53
Nukedjasin rsa or elgamal?10:54
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jasinhuh?10:54
voicusurely linux doesn't overwrite the contents of the file. just deletes the index10:54
Nukedpgp keys10:54
RoC_MM_0wsurely10:54
Jucatovoicu: different filesystem, different recovery features. afaik, ext3 doesn't have it from the command line... that's just afaik10:54
jasinyes, rsa encryption10:54
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jasinwhat about it?10:54
_kuja_nagyv, you can search through the ubuntu packages in konqueror, with upackage or usource, but you may have to enable it in the Web Shortcuts configuration first10:55
Nukedjasin is it better than elgamal?10:55
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jasinrsa is better10:56
Nukedjasin are you sure?10:57
jasinI dont use either myself.10:57
Nukedthanks10:58
Nukedany other recommendations?10:58
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z0d_!nvidia10:58
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:58
jasinFull decryption of an RSA ciphertext is thought to be infeasible10:59
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NukedAs of 2005, the largest number factored by general-purpose methods was 663 bits long10:59
Nukedfew see any way that 4096-bit keys could be broken10:59
Nukedbut I was looking into them both11:00
jasinyes, with a verrrrrrrrrrrry large linux balewolf cluster and 5 years of time11:00
jasinlol11:00
Nukedwhat about Timing attacks11:00
jasinThe nist usses Aes11:02
Nukedrindjael or something like that11:02
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jasinTiming attacks are easier to mount if the adversary knows the internals of the hardware implementation, and even more so, the crypto system in use.11:03
Nukedjasin thanks for the info11:04
Nukedcheers11:04
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RoC_MM_0wThere was also a weakness in the way GPG/PGP generated El Gamel keys.  It was a potentially bad vulnerability ( i think it had to do with imitation, not breaking encrypted files), none of my keys that I've made were vulnerable, but it was a black mark for El Gamel.11:06
RoC_MM_0wNot to say RSA hasn't had any black marks11:07
RoC_MM_0wdang I like conversation more than xchat11:08
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seven11why is ktorrent so slow i forwarded the ports and still on xp (bitcomet) i get a download speed of 40kB/s and in kubuntu with any program not more than 1kB/s   ????11:10
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RoC_MM_0wseven11: good question.  Try another BT client to see if it's just ktorrent or if it's something else.  Azureus?11:12
seven11i have tryed them all azereus bittornado ... it's all the same11:12
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RoC_MM_0wSweet11:14
RoC_MM_0wTry enabling the encryption option in Azureus11:14
RoC_MM_0wyour isp may be interfering with your traffic11:14
esbenHmm.. according to the guides on the net, the Java firefox plugin is in a package called sun-java5-plugin ... but there is no such package. (And yes, I have universe enabled).  Did it change name?11:15
seven11ok i will give it a try11:15
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noiesmosun-java5-plugin is multiverse11:16
esbennoiesmo: Could you check if it still is? I have multiverse enabled as well, but I apt-cache doesn't find it11:17
seven11RoC_MM_0w: in bitcomet i have DHT: 104 nods the same torrent in ktorrent has 0 nods , 0 tasks11:17
esbenapt-get update reports : Hit http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages <---- so it seems I really have that repo. enabled11:17
Jucatoesben: did you do "sudo-apt get update" after enabling the *correct* multiverse?11:17
noiesmoesben, i'm on edgy but on dapper thinks the same apt-cache show sun-java5-plugin Package: sun-java5-plugin Priority: optional Section: multiverse/web11:18
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Jucatoesben: use pastebin to show your /etc/apt/sources.list11:18
RoC_MM_0wseven11: I'm not sure if that's important,but try what I said.11:18
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lupul!netlimiter11:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about netlimiter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:18
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RoC_MM_0wlupul: try trickle11:19
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seven11ktorrent has encrypten as well so i turned this on11:19
lupulthanks i already did11:19
RoC_MM_0wk11:19
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lupulit doesn't work11:19
RoC_MM_0wwhat command did you use lupul?11:19
lupultrickle -u 3011:19
lupulbun nothing happened11:20
RoC_MM_0wlike11:20
RoC_MM_0wtrickle -u 30 ktorrent?11:20
SillyZq: I know theres a 'hack' for the 915display of 1440x900 but thats for an intel card, how can I get the same resolution using an ATI X1400 ?11:20
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: ping11:20
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esbenJucato: one sec, pastebin is slow today11:20
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: pong11:20
Admiral_Chicagohow is it goingL11:20
lupuli have to write the application too?11:20
RoC_MM_0wwhatever application you want to launch throttled lupul11:20
lupulthanks11:21
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: tiring, hectic, weekend...11:21
lupuli/m new on linux and i don't know many things11:21
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: #kubuntu-offtopic ?11:21
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esbenJucato: hmm... pastebin seems to be a bit under the weather. This is my multiverse line: deb http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse11:22
RoC_MM_0wthat won't work?11:22
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Jucatolooks fine to me esben11:23
esbenHmmm...  the thought that I am on 64 bit AMD suddenly strikes me... I wonder...11:23
esbenJucato: Shhot :o) Thanks11:23
RoC_MM_0wI use two lines...one for universe, another for multiverse...it works for me with it this way. esben11:23
seven11jesus 4 day for 125 mb 10 seeders 15 leechers nooooo11:23
esbenRoC_MM_0w: Worth a try I suppose, but I can see the multiverse packages getting fetched from multiverse, so I won't hold my breath :/11:24
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RoC_MM_0wInteresting esben11:24
Jucatoesben: are you sure you're getting the package name right? sun-java5-plugin11:25
Jucatoesben: if it still doesn't work, try changing "dk." to some other server/mirror11:25
esbenJucato: Nothing. What mirror do you use? (since I know that one must work!) :)11:26
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Jucatoesben: try using uk.11:26
milaksHi. I've followed this article http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208396&highlight=openoffice (Display Microsoft fonts like on Windows), but still cannot make fonts in Open Office right. I've unchecked "antialiasing" under "View" submenu in OO, but fonts are then even more uglier. Does anyone now how to fix this?11:26
Jucatoor try removing it11:26
lupuli managed it11:28
lupulthanks to all of youy11:28
lupul*youy11:29
lupul**you11:29
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nagyvhow can I instruct my edgy that it is sitting on a laptop? there are no laptop settings under the system settings, and it seems (from the hardware database), that my computer was not recognized as a laptop11:30
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Admiral_Chicagomilaks: forums say OO.o ignores your setting11:30
milaksPitty11:31
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Admiral_Chicagotry this "Before I had my font config files in /etc/fonts which worked for the rest of the system but not firefox or yelp. I copied them to ~/.fonts and that fixed those 2 programs as well."11:32
milaksIs Koffice comparable to OpenOffice, for standard home use_11:32
milaks?11:32
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_kuja_milaks: I find it to be, some of the more advanced things are a little buggy though11:32
Admiral_Chicagowhan do you mean home use?11:32
Admiral_Chicagomilaks: To solve the issue in OpenOffice, just go to Tools > Options and untick the Antialias check box. Or even better, set it to antialias small fonts, like 12px or less.11:33
milaksAdmiral_Chicago: simple nothing to much demanding without the for very advanced features.11:33
Admiral_Chicagomilaks: it works great for me11:34
milaksAdmiral_Chicago: Yes, I've read that to, and done that. But fonts are still either too ugly (without aa) or antialiased.11:34
Admiral_Chicagoall i do is write papers in it11:34
milaksOk, thanks11:34
milaksOne more question11:34
Admiral_Chicagoyou've been through all the work arounds?11:34
milaksyes11:34
esbenHmmm.. found the package from a 32bit machine. Is java-sun-plugin5 32-bit only, I wonder?11:35
milaksin which package can I find 'listen' netowrk program?11:35
_kuja_Yes it is11:36
_kuja_install ia32-sun-java5-bin11:36
Admiral_Chicagoah then i'm not sure11:36
RoC_MM_0wmilaks: like a packet sniffer?11:36
Admiral_Chicagomilaks: what do you meant listen?11:36
_kuja_Of course, ia32-sun-java5-bin will probably only work in a 32-bit browser11:37
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milaksWell I cannot find utitlity 'listen' on my machine11:37
fdovingmilaks: what does that utility do?11:38
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milaksOh crap11:38
milaksMaybe I'm wrong about its name11:38
milaksit's network utitlity11:38
esben_kuja_: Ah ok thanks :) Well, if software is too sucky to do 64bit, I don't think  I will bother, but my wife has her Java now, so that is great . THANKS EVERYONE :D11:38
fdovingmilaks: the only 'listen' utility i know of, is a gnome music player/manager.11:38
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milaksthat shows what each program is sending/receiving11:39
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crazy_busCan anyone help me?  I was trying to load a tetris like program from my KDE menu, but when I clicked on it my computer immediatly reset.  Now that I've booted up again, some of my icons are missing.  For instance the Firefox logo is now X, and there is nothing where the GAIM icon should be11:39
milaksand its TCP state11:39
fdovingmilaks: you can try 'jnettop'11:39
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fdoving!info jnettop11:39
ubotujnettop: View hosts/ports taking up the most network traffic. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.12.0-2 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 136 kB11:39
milaksOh, what a emaressment :))11:39
RoC_MM_0wcrazy_bus: go into adept and fetch updates and then do an upgrade and upgrade to the latest packages.11:39
milaksThanks guys :)11:39
milaksAnd yet antoher question :) Is there any graphical frontend to `netstat` ?11:40
RoC_MM_0wprobably11:40
RoC_MM_0wwhy would you care/11:40
milaksI mean KDE11:40
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Admiral_Chicagocrazy_bus: do you have a crash report in /var/crash11:41
crazy_busI'm doing the upgrade now, and I'll now check for the crash report11:41
RoC_MM_0wcrazy_bus: I had the exact same problem today, although not on a machine with *buntu...with one with a possibly bad HD....I did an upgrade and all was well11:42
RoC_MM_0wI also experienced that problem using kubuntu while I was using some applications and left them open as I did an upgrade.11:42
RoC_MM_0w**the upgrade didn't help the bad HD one11:43
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crazy_busDid you need to reboot to have the update help?11:43
RoC_MM_0wno11:43
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Admiral_Chicagocrazy_bus: restart X11:44
RoC_MM_0wI just closed any programs that were acting strangly..logging out would have accomplished the samr thing.11:44
Admiral_Chicagoalt + ctrl + backspage or log out and in11:44
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RoC_MM_0wIt is rarely necessary to actually reboot.11:45
RoC_MM_0wAssuming you aren't running Windows.11:45
RoC_MM_0wIn which case it's always necessary to reboot.11:45
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Admiral_ChicagoRoC_MM_0w: it case you're screwed either way11:46
Admiral_Chicagoin that case*11:47
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crazy_busWhen I logged out to try and restart X my computer froze.11:51
Admiral_Chicagofroze as in didn't get past KDM?11:51
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dirollordiCan someone help me with the Encyclopedie Hachette 2006 ?11:52
crazy_busThey was a 1 millimeter white bar on the top of the screen, the rest of the screen was black.  The mouse was movable but nothing further happened11:53
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dirollordi!help11:54
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:54
dirollordi!update11:55
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)11:55
dirollordi!ehm11:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ehm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:55
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crazy_busI wen't into adept and upgraded everything.  But some of my icons are still gone.11:56
PetePeteanyone here had any luck getting bluetooth to work?11:56
PetePetewhen ever my dongle is plugged in, the bluetooth config program wont open (freezes) from system settings :S11:56
Admiral_Chicagocrazy_bus: try this: log in a "fail safe terminal" in kdm and type  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"11:57
Admiral_Chicagobbl11:57
PetePeteif i unplug it, the window unfreezes11:57
uyusukkopete webcam help11:57
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crazy_busif I type that in will I have to answer lots of question?11:57
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vavoomHi. for vnc tunneling, which is better: SSH or SSL ?12:05
fdovingssh is good.12:05
fdovingyou can use the -via switch with xtightvncviewer..12:05
vavoomfdoving: thank you. Do you have any thoughts on SSL?12:06
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fdovingvavoom: not really.. i'd use ssh.12:07
vavoomEveryone says SSH is the method, but I'm curious about the difference in an SSL connection for VNC?12:07
vavoomfdoving: OK... why is SSH the 'only' way?12:08
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fdovingvavoom: it's probably not, I have never tried ssl, google for 'vnc over ssl'12:09
vavoomfdoving: thanks for the help... good bye.12:09
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nagyvhow can I check if a device node is present? if [ -f /dev/node ]  is always false, -s is always true12:10
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fdovingnagyv: -b maybe (man test'12:14
fdoving)12:14
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eilkerhow can i solve this ? The following packages have unmet dependencies: libtool: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or  libc-dev //E: Broken packages12:22
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fdovingeilker: what does 'sudo aptitude install libc6-dev' say?12:23
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esben vavoom: SSH is essentially SSL... so securityvise, the difference is moot12:23
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resihello everyone12:24
resineed some help with printing12:24
esbeneilker: What are you trying to do?12:24
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Admiral_Chicagocrazy_bus: hopefully12:25
Admiral_Chicagoi think you have a borked X configuration12:25
eilkerfdoving: see it gave a long text , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35163/12:25
eilkeresben: my system is down...yesterday i lost 55 packages, i removed openLDAP by mistake, i was trying for vmware12:26
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marcociao gente12:28
marcoce qualkuno??12:29
resianyone?12:29
abattoir!it | marco12:29
ubotumarco: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:29
marcook sorry12:29
eilkerfdoving: should i accept the downgrade ??12:30
fdovingeilker: is this dapper?12:31
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jjjjhi all12:31
jjjjon boot my kubuntu says BUG soft lockup detected con CPU12:32
jjjjwhat does it mean?12:32
Admiral_Chicago!softlock12:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about softlock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:32
Admiral_Chicagohmm12:32
Admiral_Chicagohold on a sec12:32
eilkerfdoving: yes sir12:32
fdovingeilker: why do you have libc6-dev from edgy then? :)12:32
fdovingeilker: yes, accept the downgrade.12:32
Admiral_Chicagocan't find it, sorry jjjj12:33
eilkerfdoving: i have no idea:) ok12:33
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gradin...12:34
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gradini need help isolating what is causing my kubuntu box to hardlock periodically...12:35
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gradinwhat would be a good log file to look at?12:35
eilkerlocale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory   //any solution for this ?12:35
eilkeri think etc/enviroment is not correct, i dont know how to fix it12:36
fdovingeilker: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/environment ?12:36
eilkerfdoving: sir, here it is, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35164/12:37
gradin... sir?12:38
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eilkergradin: i like to say sir...12:38
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eilkergradin: to my friends too12:38
fdovingeilker: you can delete line number 02. as 09. does the same.12:39
fdovingeilker: also, it looks like you have 'localeconf' installed. you can run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow localeconf' to configure your locale settings.12:40
gradini need help isolating what is causing my kubuntu box to hardlock periodically...12:40
gradinwhat would be a good log file to look at?12:40
fdovinggradin: you can look at /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/messages for starters.12:41
gradintnx12:41
gradinfdoving: whats the keystroke to jump to the end of a file in vim12:42
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fdovinggradin: shift+g12:42
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jam1138Hola Mundo xD12:43
eilkerfdoving: there is a screen and i should tick of these // LC_collate, lc_ctype,lc_messages, lc_monetary, lc_numeric,  lc_time12:43
eilkerfdoving: should i put a tick 6 of those ?12:43
fdovingeilker: only if you want to override the default system locale,set by LANG=12:44
gradinfdoving: tnx12:44
gradinum....12:44
gradinDec  3 03:19:29 ubuntu kdm_greet[4857] : Internal error: memory corruption detected12:44
gradinis that a bad thing? ;P12:45
fdovinggradin: sounds like a bad thing..12:45
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gradinfdoving: how can i fix that...12:45
eilkerfdoving: it is under title  Environment settings that should override the default locale:12:45
eilkergradin: i have same thing, kate crashs12:45
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eilkerfdoving: so ? do i need to tick them ? or do u suggest me let them free ?_12:46
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Alarmhello12:49
Alarm i see there are 2 different isos. a cd iso and a dvd iso. of course with different image size. does the dvd iso include more or how is it ? cause i dont see like 3-4cd isos but just one12:49
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fdovingeilker: if you want everything to be the language you initialy selected as default, don't tick them.12:50
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eilkerfdoving: ok thanx let me reboot, to see fixed or not12:51
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DarkEDwhat is the name of KDE's irc client?12:54
Alarmok :)12:54
olegfink!konversation12:55
ubotukonversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 5027 kB, installed size 12988 kB12:55
DarkEDthanks!!12:55
DarkEDbeen trying to remember for the past half hour, I hate xchat...12:55
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eilkerfdoving: solved, thank you very much12:55
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DarkEDso, any big KDE improvements in edgy? (I'm coming from 6.06 beta)12:55
FragragIs there a search option? I seem to have lost a file :S12:56
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eilkerfragrag: locate ?12:56
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Alarmfor kubuntu i see there are 2 different isos. a cd iso and a dvd iso. of course with different image size. does the dvd iso include more or how is it ? cause i dont see like 3-4cd isos but just one . why is that huge size difference12:57
olegfinkAlarm: there is more packages on dvd than on cd12:58
FragragNevermind, ^F does it too12:58
Alarmokie. thanks12:58
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eilkerThe httpd deamon has difficulties to write to /var/run/vmware/ and could not create the httpd directory. in every reboot deletes the folder /var/run/vmware/httpd  , what must i do ?12:58
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olegfinkeilker: are that directory's permissions right?01:00
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eilkerolegfink: yes it is01:01
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eilkerolegfink: sorry , no it is root's01:01
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olegfinkeilker: maybe you should cahnge it that 'nobody' has write access01:02
olegfinke.g. chmod o+w /var/run/vmware01:03
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tobias:)01:12
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crazy_busI did the xserver reconfigure but it completly killed my X01:20
hyper_chcrazy_bus: then try again :)01:22
hyper_chsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:22
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crazy_busWhy?01:22
crazy_busEverytime I've tried that, X, just loads up to a black screen.  And then I have to restore my xorg.conf backup01:24
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martinjuhey everyone01:26
martinjuim just about to remove kubuntu and reinstall windows... anyone feel like talking me out of it? :D01:26
voicuwell not really, but why would you do that?01:27
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martinjuwell... ive had so much trouble even to get kubuntu to work, it feels like its not worth it01:28
martinjuand now there are more things i need to solve before being able to use the computer for what i do most01:29
crazy_buswhat are those things?01:29
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martinjuid like to play mp3s and divx/xvids01:30
cathalanyone know how to activate TC out on a laptop, the function key doesnt work. Do i have to activate an option somewhere?01:30
martinjuand then id like to get Firefox working01:30
cathal*TV01:30
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voicuhmm, i also thought of that a lot. i came to the conclusion that once you know how to make it work it's not such a trouble anymore. plus, a linux installation should last longer than a windows one01:30
martinjuand then also get the interface working like i want it to, although thats more because of laziness01:31
airfoilhi all! i had conection problem with my adept manager repositories.01:31
airfoilhi! i can't connect to repostories01:31
voicumartinju, about the mp3s, you only have to install a package01:31
martinjuwell, i think im a bit used to windows, but i dont want to "make it work"... i want it to work :D01:31
voicuairfoil, is your /etc/apt/sources.list file setup correctly01:32
martinjuwhich package is that?01:32
voicumartinju, true but in windows you still have to install a lot of stuff to make some things work01:32
voicucodecs too01:32
dr0fnaxI've got WoW working under wine, and now I'm feeling like uninstalling windows :P01:33
voicumartinju, search on packages.ubuntu.com for libxine-extracodecs01:33
martinjuwell, in windows i install ffdshow and its done... true i need to install stuff, but its very simple01:33
airfoilvoicu: yes it correct.01:33
airfoili already enable the server list01:34
voicuyou have to select the file for your specific version of ubuntu01:34
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airfoilvoice: this morning i can do it once. after that i can't even fetch update.01:34
voicuairfoil, so what actually is not working? do you get an error?01:34
airfoilvoicu: It is hanging when i try to fetch update01:34
martinjucant i use adept manager to get packages?01:35
airfoilvoicu: it waiting for header (0%)01:35
voicumartinju, for anything opensource yes, for stuff that is controversial like codecs you have to download by hand (and assume some of the responsability)01:36
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martinjuaha... got no problem with responsibility :D01:36
voicui guess so, after all you were a windows user, right? :)01:37
voicuairfoil: try using apt-get to update01:37
martinjuisnt there a way to get it to work with adept? i mean, the stuff is on the packages website, cant i set it up to get the "responsibility" stuff as well?01:37
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voicusee if that works01:37
martinjuhehe yeah... LOTS of responsibility there... hrrrrm01:37
voicumartinju, i tried to make it include propritary software in apt but it didn't seem to work on libxine-extracodecs... maybe i did it wrong01:38
voicuanyway, it's one file01:38
martinjuok01:38
martinjugonna see if i can make it work without asking more questions :D01:38
abattoiryou can get libxine-extracodecs through adept if you have the multiverse repository enabled01:39
abattoir!multiverse01:39
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:39
abattoirwhile you're at it, enable universe too01:39
abattoirmartinju: ^^^^01:40
airfoilvoicu: okay i am trying01:40
martinjuok... so i need to read up on repositories (should make things simpler to upgrade in the future)?01:40
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voicuabattoir, i have the multiverse and libxine-extracodecs doesn't install through apt01:42
abattoirvoicu: could you see it in the packages list?01:42
abattoirapt or adept?01:42
voicuno01:42
abattoirdoesn't really make a difference though01:42
abattoirvoicu: make sure you have universe multiverse etc. enabled for 'dapper' or 'edgy'...01:43
voicuof course01:43
abattoirvoicu: instead of 'dapper-backports' or 'edgy-backports' in the distro section01:43
martinjudeb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe  should do it?01:43
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martinjuor shouldit be edgy universe?01:43
abattoirmartinju: which version of kubuntu?01:44
voicumartinju, it should be the one that you have installed01:44
martinjuok, edgy then01:44
abattoirmartinju: dapper or edgy? 6.06 or 6.10?01:44
martinjukinda explains why it doesnt work yet :D01:44
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voicuabattoir, i'm sure sources.list is ok, still the package isn't there01:44
abattoirmartinju: yeah, make it 'deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse'01:44
voicucould the it be the mirror's fault?01:44
abattoirvoicu: could you pastebin your sources.list?01:45
angasulehow do I turn off the "do you want to install flash?" dialog in konqueror? it keeps popping up01:45
abattoirvoicu: i presume you ran 'sudo apt-get update' after modifying sources.list01:45
voicuwell, i modified sources.list the first time i installed the system and enabled everything that was in there01:45
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voicusince then i've updating quite often01:46
voicu*i've been01:46
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martinjuok, got universe, multiverse added01:46
abattoirmartinju: ok, you clicked on fetch updates?01:46
martinjuhavent tried01:46
voicu!pastebin01:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:47
martinjui edited this in the sources.list01:47
abattoirmartinju: ok, then run 'sudo apt-get update'01:47
abattoirmartinju: make sure adept is closed before you run that01:48
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voicuabattoir: if you really want it, here is the file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35170/01:48
eilkeris there an apt-get log to see what i did until now  ?01:48
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martinjuah nice... lots of new stuff01:49
fdovingeilker: /var/log/dpkg.log01:49
abattoirvoicu: just as i told you :)01:49
eilkerfdoving:ty01:49
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abattoirvoicu: look at lines 28 and 2901:49
abattoirvoicu: it's edgy-backports, not edgy01:49
abattoirvoicu: you can add multiverse to either lines 18 and 1901:49
abattoirvoicu: or 03 and 0401:49
abattoirmartinju: yeah, look for libxine-extracodecs01:50
abattoirmartinju: and install that01:50
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voicuaha, so there are more multiverse and universe repositories?01:50
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martinjuhmm... i think ive failed to enable the repository where those codecs are01:50
martinjuchecking sources01:50
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voicudamn, i feel stupid right. downloading libxine-extracodecs each time. and instructing a few friends to do the same... they'll be pissed :D01:52
martinjucan it be that the se.ubuntu.com sources does not contain the stuff i want?01:52
abattoirmartinju: look at my reply to voicu, a few lines ago :)01:52
voicucan't even write right :P01:52
martinjuaha! :D01:52
abattoirmartinju: do it through adept, if you're new, you should be more comfortable w/ it01:53
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abattoirvoicu: it's a very common mistake :)01:53
martinjucant find it in adept manager01:53
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Flosofthey01:54
Flosoftis there an option to show a user list on KDM?01:54
Flosoftwhen logging in ... like on SuSE?01:54
Flosoft(EDGY)01:54
eilkerfdoving:when i install a package via adept or console, it is hold in /var/cache/apt/archives , is it hold in /var/cache/apt/archives temporarly or permanently ?01:54
abattoirFlosoft: i think that depends on your KDM theme01:54
Flosofthmm01:55
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Flosoftok ... i'll look for one01:55
fdovingeilker: until you clean it up.. 'apt-get clean'01:56
martinjushould this be an adequate list for repositories?=01:57
martinjuhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories01:57
johann_who speak frech, im french??01:57
zorglu_!fr01:57
fdoving!fr | johann_01:57
ubotujohann_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:57
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:57
Flosofthmm ... I can't find any theme which displays the users on KDElook.org01:58
fdovingFlosoft: i'm not aware of any fancy theme that supports userlists. You can disable the theming, and enable the userlist.01:58
eilkercan i use the liveCD as a repo ?01:58
fdovingno.01:59
fdovingyou can use the alternate cd.01:59
FlosoftI checked in the control panel01:59
Flosoftthe checkbox: show list is checked01:59
eilkerfdoving: can i get the alternate cd via shipit ?01:59
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fdovingeilker: no.02:00
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zorglu_even by paying ?02:00
fdovingFlosoft: yes, but you need to disable theming manually.. iirc.02:00
eilker!alternate cd > eilker02:00
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about alternate cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:00
abattoirmartinju: most people won't recommend that as it has 3rd party repostitories, stick to the wiki guide i pointed to you if you can02:00
Flosoftisn't there a theme with a user list?02:00
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VincentMXw00t02:01
VincentMXati works!02:01
abattoirmartinju: enabling a 3rd party repo without really knowing if you need it or what it contains is a libability02:01
JucatoFlosoft: try looking for one in KDE-Look.org02:01
JucatoFlosoft: under the KDM Theme section02:01
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FlosoftI am02:01
Flosoftbut there is no Kubuntu one02:01
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Flosoftwhich is a pity :(02:01
martinjuok02:01
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zorglu_Flosoft: naive question, in which context do you need it ?02:02
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Flosoftwell ... I am installing Kubuntu for a friend02:03
Flosoftit's mainly for his family02:03
angasule!beryl02:03
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl02:03
Flosoftthey want seperate accounts, but I upgraded them to kubuntu from suse02:03
zorglu_Flosoft: ah ok to avoid them to type with first name02:03
JucatoFlosoft: all KDM themes work across distributions02:03
zorglu_Flosoft: ok thanks02:03
Flosoftand one really nice thing for them is to simply click their name, and login02:03
JucatoFlosoft: but to get your regular user list in a plain (no theme) KDM/Login, you just have to edit a file. or better yet, install "kdmtheme"02:04
Flosoftbut on the other side, I want to keep the name Kubuntu on the login page02:04
eilkerwhat is  alternate cd's difference from ubuntu-desktop ?02:04
Flosoftkdmtheme?02:04
Jucato!kdmtheme | Flosoft02:04
ubotukdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 264 kB02:04
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JucatoFlosoft: kdmtheme gives you a GUI for managing KDM Themes. it also allows you to easily disable/enable the use of KDM Themes02:05
Flosoftok02:05
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JucatoFlosoft: unfortunately, due to a bug in Edgy, you can't find it in System Settings once installed. you have to access it through KControl (press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol")02:06
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martinjuhmm... adept tells me ive got 647 packages that are upgradeable... would upgrading all of them mess anything up?02:07
Flosoftok02:07
FlosoftI know kcontrol :)02:07
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martinju100mbit dl is good for upgrading :D02:09
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eilkerhow can i see working daemons, programs etc ? (in gui ,not via ps aux)02:09
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abattoirmartinju: are you sure you were on edgy rather than on dapper?02:12
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abattoirif you aren't, you might be in some trouble :P02:12
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martinjuyes im on edgy :)02:12
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VincentMXdoes anybody know how i can make use of my 5.1 surround system in kubuntu?02:13
martinjubut i think im in trouble anyway :D02:13
Flosoftis there maybe anyone who might make a kubuntu edgy kdm theme with a user list?02:13
eilkerit is ctrl alt del  in xp, what for linux ?02:13
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martinjuits asking me questions like what encoding i want for consoles...02:13
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JucatoFlosoft: have you tried to search inKDE-Look02:15
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Flosoftyeah02:15
Jucatoand?02:15
FlosoftI haven't found a Kubuntu theme with user lsit02:15
Flosoft*list02:15
FlosoftI downloaded deep blue ... but there seems to be a problem with the list height02:16
Jucatoah, you mean one that has Kubuntu artwork?02:16
Flosoftyeah02:16
Jucatoah02:16
eilkerwhy can i see working programs in Ksysguard02:16
eilkerwhy cant* i see working programs in Ksysguard ?02:16
Flosoftlike the default kdm theme but with a userlist :)02:17
JohnFluxeilker: such as?02:17
JucatoFlosoft: you could probaby just tweak it a bit to change the background02:17
eilkerJohnFlux: it is ctrl alt del  in xp, what for linux ?02:17
Flosoftjucato ... how do you mean?02:17
JohnFluxeilker: ctrl+esc02:17
eilkerJohnFlux: how can i see working daemons, programs etc ? (in gui ,not via ps aux)02:17
eilkerJohnFlux: thank you so much...02:18
JohnFluxnp02:18
martinjuhmm... this upgrade thingie was a big can'o'worms :D02:18
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Jucatonah don't mind e.. not thinking straight...02:18
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eilker!getty > eilker02:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about getty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:20
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ckdwhy i cant install skype with apt-get ?02:20
eilkerany errors ?02:21
ckdno02:21
ckddidnt find02:21
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Jucato!skype02:22
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto02:22
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computer_hello02:22
martinju!cups02:22
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows02:22
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ckdthx02:22
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martinjui killed the internet!02:23
martinjucrap02:24
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martinjusigh... now i cant use Konqueror: Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:02:27
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eilkerhow much ram does kubuntu need at least ?02:34
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martinju!ram02:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ram - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:34
martinjujust had to try :)02:34
cox377eilker: to install it takes 256 but for general usage i've found 192 to be fine.. never tried any lower02:35
eilkercox377: i have 512 and installed vmware ...02:36
cox377eilker: ummm that should be fine then02:36
cox377eilker: i'm not to sure on vmware02:36
cox377!vmware02:37
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare02:37
eilkercox377: it is a great tool02:37
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easytigeris the kubuntu distro itself given under the GPL?02:38
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zorglu_easytiger: nope. there are no special license02:40
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NiklasofVienna__!beryl02:42
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl02:42
computer_hi everyone02:42
NiklasofVienna__!fglrx02:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:42
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NiklasofVienna__!democracy02:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about democracy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:43
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zorglu_is this some new kind of spam ? :)02:43
towyncprobably lol02:44
towyncbut helpful spam =)02:44
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towyncis anyone running beryl already?02:44
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zorglu_some people are:)02:45
eilkertowync: yes02:45
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towynccan anyone help with this: I'm getting black screen after typing beryl-manager, not sure what to do now =)02:47
towyncnot entirely black screen, I still see whatever window I had open, and also the kmenu panel bars02:48
towyncbut I can't click to switch between windows, or much else =(02:48
zorglu_have you tried #ubuntu-xgl ?02:49
towyncthat channel?02:49
martinjuhmm,.. i get launcher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.  when trying to use konqueror... anyone know what i can do to fix that?02:49
towyncI'm in that channel #ubuntu-xgl already tho, not many people there02:49
towyncI asked =) hehe02:49
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towynchow are u getting the konqueror error02:49
martinjuwhen i type a url and hit enter02:50
zorglu_towync: then i dont know :)02:50
towynco, i never had that02:50
zorglu_for konq error, try rebooting02:50
towyncokies ty anyway tho =)02:50
martinjuok02:50
towync6am here02:51
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humboltwould feisty kernel run in edgy? I mean, are there any critical differences in the kernel API between edgy and feisty kernel? something like hotplug being replaced by udev?02:51
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towyncsorry I'm too much of a newbie to know =(02:52
zorglu_why amarok freeze when i launch gprof ? :)02:52
towyncbut stick around, I'll be around lol to keep ya comanied02:53
eilkerzorglu_ , i hate amarok02:53
zorglu_i hate gprof :)02:53
eilker:))02:53
towynczorglu hates them both now =)02:53
zorglu_hehe :)02:53
towyncI'll join the crowd, I hate them too lol, even tho i never tried them yet02:53
eilkertownync: btw, there are beryl forums, u can search from there too02:54
zorglu_well i could add 512mbyte of ram on the box and have it solved :)02:54
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towync=)02:56
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turitorohola03:03
dieguixhola03:03
turitoroque es esto?03:03
dieguixno lo s.03:03
turitoroeveryone here is on Linux03:03
dieguixcreo que no03:04
turitorono lo sabe?bueno03:04
turitoroy que se hace aqui? es solo para charlar?03:05
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XVampireXEVERYONE HERE IS ON LINUX!03:05
XVampireXyes03:05
dieguixsi03:05
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dieguixthanks03:05
turitoroI'm on ubuntu03:05
turitorobut I can't use it very well03:06
dieguixcuanta gente puede haber aqui?03:06
turitoroI'm new in Linux03:06
turitoroAnd I've problems with codecs03:07
XVampireX!restrictedformats03:07
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:07
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turitorothe only one I can play is mp303:07
turitorowith xmms03:07
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XVampireXhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats03:08
hastesaverzorglu_, there is some warning I get when I start amarok from the terminal about "don't run gdb, valgrind etc. on this. Use amarokapp" instead. Might that help?03:08
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zorglu_hastesaver: thanks :)03:08
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zorglu_hastesaver: in fact i was complaining because i am bored, i know the problem (aka gprof use too much memory)03:09
hastesaverzorglu_, ok :-)03:09
zorglu_hastesaver: but thansk for your will to help :)03:09
hastesaverzorglu_, is that something wrong with gprof or an inherent "feature" of profilers?03:09
zorglu_hastesaver: well the issue is in gdb and gprof, aka they use a LOT of memory, like 330mbyte of rss when i launch them03:10
zorglu_hastesaver: this is a lot for a 512mbyte box:)03:11
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zorglu_gdb issue is that it load all the symbol in memory before even prompting the user03:11
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zorglu_and with large code, all the symbol is like 330mbyte :)03:12
zorglu_btw is there a gui tool to view the gprof output03:12
hastesaverzorglu_, kprof03:13
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zorglu_will you be my life saver ? :)03:13
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zorglu_kprof star tmy launching gprof03:16
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zorglu_i can tell :) my box freeze for like 5min when gprof sttart                :)03:16
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turitoroWOW03:19
turitoroit works03:19
zorglu_youhou!!! :)03:19
turitoroinstalling VLC!03:19
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turitoroThe clockwork orange, it runs03:20
CaBlGuYthere a command line util. I can use like ipconfig to disconnect my connection?03:20
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turitoroalso a stupid like me can use the pinguin03:20
zorglu_"ifdown eth0" <- this will disable eth0 network interface03:20
zorglu_ok reboot time to free memory leak :)03:21
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CaBlGuYzorglu_:  and to reestablish connection?03:21
zorglu_ifup eth003:21
CaBlGuYok..  thanks03:21
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towyncwhat's gprof03:26
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angasuletowync: gnu profiler, it's for programmers03:26
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martinjuis there an easy way to set up printer sharing on ubuntu? got a Macbook that needs access to the printer03:28
towyncangasule: thx03:28
XVampireXmartinju: samba?03:29
XVampireX!samba03:29
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT03:29
XVampireXNo just windows though, I think Macs too03:29
XVampireXnot^03:29
towyncis ubotu a bot?03:29
towyncsorry, just asking03:30
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XVampireXyes03:30
towynccuz there seemed to be bots earlier03:30
towynccool03:30
XVampireXubotu and ubugto are bots03:30
towynccool =)03:30
ubotuand: Auto Nice Daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.2-1.1 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 132 kB03:30
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XVampireXLOL03:30
towynchehe03:30
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towynco i have a problem with beryl (led me here lol)03:30
XVampireX#ubuntu-xgl03:31
towyncdo people know how to fix black screen on beryl-manager03:31
towyncyeah i tried that room03:31
towyncless people there, seemed to be sleeping03:31
XVampireXThose who know how to fix a black screen will be in there03:31
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XVampireXbut let me try03:31
towynccool thx03:31
towynci'll be in that room too03:32
XVampireXtowync: You added anything to /etc/X11/xorg.conf or not?03:32
XVampireXAnd are you using AIGLX or XGL?03:32
ubuntu_i have a problem during boot process, i receive an error saying /etc/var... is read only file system and the boot stops after that03:33
XVampireXubuntu_: Fresh install?03:33
towynci'm using aiglx03:34
towynci think that came with kubuntu edgy03:34
towyncbut i also think during the process of following install guides03:34
towynci put on xgl too03:34
towynclol03:34
towyncso i don't really know right now =) except when I run beryl-manager03:34
XVampireXDid you uninstall XGL?03:34
XVampireXAnd do you have nvidia?03:34
XVampireXor ATI?03:34
towynci get messages like: xgl absent, nvidia, present03:35
towynci have nvidia03:35
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towyncand then there seems to be something wrong with composites03:35
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XVampireXOk, you're not running an XGL session, so it doesn't mtater03:35
towyncthe final error is beryl: No composites03:35
XVampireXmatter^03:35
towynccool03:35
XVampireXYou need composite extension in your xorg.conf file03:35
towyncbut when I change xorg.conf, composite section to enable03:35
towyncthat's when it became black screen + freeze, before that it just freezes03:36
SkrotHi. Im having some problems removing a package. Is there a way to force it?03:36
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Skrot"subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1"03:36
XVampireXSkrot: That doesn't say much03:36
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towynci'm too much of a newbie for that =) just keeping you comanied, someone else might know =)03:36
towyncthat was to skrot03:37
towynchehe03:37
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XVampireXtowync: it doesn't give any output? Just freezes?03:37
towyncyeah03:37
martinjusigh.... i just cant get printer sharing to work :/03:37
towyncthe background is black03:37
XVampireX!printer03:37
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows03:37
SkrotXVampireX: Can I enable more verbose or something when removing with apt-get?03:37
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towyncwow ubotu is really nice bot lol03:38
towynci think apt-get -v works03:38
hastesaver_Skrot, how much more verbose do you want? It already says everything it's doing, right?03:38
XVampireXSkrot: You can but you don't neccessarily need are there any lines besides "subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1"03:38
towyncbut i'm not sure about more verbose03:38
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BluesKajHowdy folks! :)03:38
Skrothttp://pastebin.ca/265656 this is all it says03:39
towynco back to the beryl thing, background is black, mouse works, can't tab between windows i had opened, but i can see those windows and the k menu bar03:39
towyncalso there's the emeral sign that i can't click on tray03:40
towyncand everything else is frozen03:40
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XVampireXFor those of you who don't know, you can uninstall packages with dpkg, too.03:40
martinjuno printer sharing howto for edgy yet... crap03:40
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XVampireXapt-get is just a frontend to dpkg and sometimes it can mess up uninstallations03:40
XVampireXand even installations03:40
hastesaver_XVampireX, and conversely, too03:40
SkrotXVampireX: sudo dpkg --remove gmediaserver says the same though :)03:41
towyncwhen is feisty o ut03:41
Skrotand I need it removed03:41
hastesaver_!feisty03:41
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is pre-alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+103:41
h3sp4wnOr you can use only dpkg and aptitude (apt-get seems useless to me)03:41
h3sp4wn(unless you need apt-get source)03:41
towyncic03:41
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towyncfeisty should include beryl/compriz pre configuesd hehe03:41
XVampireXSkrot: Yeah, I knew it wouldn't help, what happens here is that it fails to stop the script, thus it fails to remove it03:41
hastesaver_towync, it will03:41
towyncnice =)03:41
SkrotXVampireX: How do I go about to get it removed then?03:42
towyncnow if i could get beryl to work now lol =)03:42
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vinicriit's a dumb question, but trying to execute a windows aplication with wine, the expression "Program Files" either "Program%20Files" didn't work. what is the correct?03:42
kaatilhi all03:42
towync*logging off* i might freeze out starting beryl hehe03:42
XVampireXSkrot: Find the buggy script and try to manually stop it03:42
towyncthx everyone, see you guys around03:42
SkrotXVampireX: I would think it should be /etc/init.d/gmediaserver which stops without any error output03:43
XVampireXdo03:43
XVampireXsudo /etc/init.d/gmediaserver stop03:43
h3sp4wnso look at which part is failing and force the script to exit 003:43
Skrot"Stopping gmediaserver:"03:43
Skrotand thats it03:43
XVampireXdoes it say ok?03:43
Skrotno, it says nothing03:44
XVampireXIt's stuck?03:44
SkrotI get returned to "magnus@frigg:~$" again03:44
XVampireXHmm03:45
XVampireXtry to purge it03:47
XVampireXI had some packages like these, I forgot how to uninstall them, I guess :P03:47
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XVampireXBut I'll figure it out03:47
SkrotI've tried purging03:47
h3sp4wnSkrot: look in /var/lib/dpkg/info/foo{pre,post}inst03:48
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h3sp4wnSkrot: Find out which part is failing and either comment out the line or change it to echo03:48
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Skroth3sp4wn: The line "invoke-rc.d gmediaserver stop" in /var/lib/dpkg/info/gmediaserver.prerm fails03:50
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h3sp4wnSkrot: change it to echo invoke-rc.d gmediaserver stop03:50
Skrotah, it's gone =)03:51
zorglu_hastesaver_: is kprof supposed to work ? i mean i got nothing out of it, aka it open the window and doesnt display more. even when i provide it the file from 'gprof -b myexe'03:51
SkrotI just echoed "ok"03:51
zorglu_hastesaver_: i noticed it was quite old03:51
h3sp4wnSkrot: then try to remove it (should work)03:51
Skrotit did :)03:51
h3sp4wnThe quality control on some of these scripts is not good03:52
hastesaver_zorglu_, I don't know :-)03:52
zorglu_hastesaver_: hehe ok :)03:52
zorglu_hastesaver_: do you know who will know ?03:52
heinkel_111anybody know if hewlett packard produces linux compatible scanners?03:52
heinkel_111what is their reputation03:53
heinkel_111?03:53
Dr_willisheinkel_111,  a lot depends on the scanner.03:53
h3sp4wndepends on what model - most of the scsi ones work pretty well03:53
Dr_willisI have a HP 1210v all-in-one printer-scanner that works ok.03:53
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Dr_willisfor a $99 printer/scanner - its useable. :)03:53
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Dr_willischeck out the SANE homepage.03:53
heinkel_111i am looking at a HP ScanJet 4890 fotoskanner 4800*9600dpi, filmskanner03:53
h3sp4wnheinkel_111: I have a nikon scsi filmscanner that definately works03:54
h3sp4wnheinkel_111: (inherited it)03:54
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heinkel_111SANE hompage? what about insane ones? :P03:54
Dr_willisI need to track down a 'negative' scanner some day...03:54
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Dr_willis!sane03:54
ubotusane: scanner graphical frontends. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.14-1 (edgy), package size 103 kB, installed size 324 kB03:54
heinkel_111Dr Willis: this one i am looking at is just that03:54
BluesKajanyone know of a repos for DEVEDE 26 ...I can't figure out how to make the "config" command work after extracting tar files , in order to install it.03:54
h3sp4wnDr_willis: That is what I have (that scans negatives)03:55
Dr_willisYea - my mom needs to scan a bunch of old negatives.. told her to take them to a photo place and let them do the work.. and put the scans on a dvd for her.03:55
Dr_willissave ME a lot of time.03:55
heinkel_111h3sp4wn and Dr_willis: I don't have a SCSI interface on  my comp so I guess that is out of the question03:55
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h3sp4wnheinkel_111: Cards just for the scanner are cheap03:56
CaBlGuY!pastebin03:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:56
h3sp4wnheinkel_111: The expensive ones are the ones with the boot rom's03:56
heinkel_111 yea, but I already have a lot of usb 2.0 ports for such tasks...03:56
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CaBlGuYk, new question...  what the hell are all these connections???   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35180/03:57
sadyk!edgy03:57
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes03:57
CaBlGuYanyone that has a clue and can tell me, please speak up..03:58
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CaBlGuYrobotgeek:  u up and around?03:58
Dr_willisheinkel_111,  Check the "SANE" web site for supported scanners and whats new/supported/Notsupported03:58
heinkel_111Dr_willis: will do!03:59
Dr_willisI need a scanner i can mount on the wall - that looks like a picture frame. :)03:59
Dr_willisthat would save me some desk space04:00
CaBlGuYok, anyone else...  can tell me what those connections are???  anyone...04:00
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Dr_willis/tmp/hald-local/dbus-rGHMFUoKxD04:00
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Dr_willishald and dbus are the various hardware/detection/automounting/thinggies I think. :)04:00
CaBlGuYDr_willis:  U talkin ta me...04:01
Dr_willishow did you even 'detect' those.04:01
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CaBlGuYble..  I'll come back later..04:05
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martinjuhmm... still cant get printer sharing to work... anyone feel like helping me?04:10
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Dr_willisHmm.. CrossMeta -  Add-on File Systems EXT2, XFS and Reiserfs for Windows 2000, 2003 and XP04:10
Dr_willisthats worth bookmarking :)04:11
Dr_willishttp://www.crossmeta.com/crossmeta.html          wonder how well it works.04:11
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martinjump3 and divx is working... at last... now for sharing printers :D04:12
Dr_willisi went the eay way and bought a little network-thing for my printer :)  a Dlink Printserver.04:13
martinjuhehe... ive got a slug i could use, but thats just avoiding something that has a solution already :)04:13
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zorglu_!search sysprof04:15
ubotuFound:04:15
martinjumust... beat... computer04:16
martinju!sharing04:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sharing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:16
zorglu_!info sysprof-module04:16
ubotuPackage sysprof-module does not exist in any distro I know04:16
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zorglu_evil distro :)04:16
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zorglu_!info sysprof-module-sources04:17
ubotuPackage sysprof-module-sources does not exist in any distro I know04:17
zorglu_!info sysprof-module-source04:18
ubotusysprof-module-source: Source for the sysprof module. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-2 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 80 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 ia64)04:18
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zorglu_q. what is the name of the package to get the kernel header ?04:21
zorglu_like to compile kernel module ?04:22
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zorglu_!kernel04:23
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild04:23
h3sp4wnzorglu_: linux-headers-`uname -r`04:23
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WhereOdd; after upgrading to edgy, text in openoffice.org (including text on the menus) looks oddly pixelated. I tried turning on anti-aliasing to no avail. Does anybody have any other ideas?04:28
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julleDoes anyone know how to fix the problem of only getting 800x600 resolution?04:29
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BluesKajjulie . system settings04:30
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julleBluesKaj: well that doent work04:31
jullei only get 800x600 in nvidia settings too04:31
jullebut when i rebooted my comp yesterday i got 1280x1024 and after that reboot it was back to 800x600 so strange04:31
BluesKaj monitor & display /admin mode/04:32
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guidenI want to learn programme stuff in opengl, anyone who could to recommend good websites?04:34
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adz21cguiden: http://nehe.gamedev.net/ and if ur serious then get the Red book04:35
guidenOk thanks04:35
adz21cHi, I am running Edgy amd64, I can't install KDevelop because some debs are missing (or at least the versions of the debs don't match up), am I missing a Repo or something?04:36
Whereadz21c: do you have the universe repo?04:37
adz21cshould do, hold on04:38
adz21cyup04:38
julleBluesKaj: I can only choose 800x60004:39
julleIn Admin MOde04:39
adz21cWhere: the debs i see her Kdeveop, Kdevelop-doc (both 3.3.5) and Kdevelop-data, Kdevelop-dev (3.3.4)04:39
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BluesKajjulie, have you configured your monitor and graphics card in the the system settings/monitor & display/admin mode ?04:40
adz21cWhere: no well i got that completely wrong but same idea, the versions don't match04:40
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binks_ok when i exit adept it keeps var/lib/dpkg/lock locked how can i fx or unlock this04:44
guidenadz21c: Do you think I should learn to programme opengl instead of learning blender?04:44
h3sp4wnbinks_: /msg ubotu adept crash fix04:44
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Jucato!adept crash fix | binks_04:44
ubotubinks_: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'04:44
binks_mint cheers04:45
adz21cguiden: since i don't know what blender is I can't say, gimmie a clue cos i might be just being slow lol, but after doing DirectX at Uni I looked at OpenGL, not done much with it but I just find it interesting and useful since its cross-plat04:45
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Lynoureguiden: What's your end goal in either?04:45
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guidenmake a game04:46
guidenscience game04:46
h3sp4wnguiden: Learn matrix algebra before you start04:46
Lynoureguiden: blender is probably fun and useful for that, but I have heard bad things about the blender game engine04:47
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guidenOk, I know alot of math and stuff so that should't be a problem04:47
joheyWith Edgy, Firefox 2 won't always start when I click its icon or type firefox from a shell. No message. It just quits. Why?04:47
guidenadz21c blender is a 3d modeling program04:47
LynoureI have no idea what a science game would be, anyway04:47
guidenyour a scientist that do cool experimetnts in a lab,04:47
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guidenwarcraft angle04:48
guiden:)04:48
AdrianHenslerjohey - is it already running? "ps -ef | grep firefox"04:48
Lynoureguiden: Choose experiments that cannot be done at a small budget, otherwise it's more fun in real life than in a game04:48
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joheyAdrianHensler: Yes, I just found out that so is the case. After killing it, I can start a new one.04:49
guidenhehe well, just for fun, maybe I'll do a adventure game out of it, final fantasy type04:49
joheyAdrianHensler: Why is it still running? It should quit when I quit it, shoudln't it?04:50
Lynoureguiden: IMO Final Fantasy was hardly an adventure game but unfortunately it seem the classic adventure game genre is dead04:50
AdrianHenslerNot sure johey; perhaps it's just not quitting correctly?04:51
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joheyAdrianHensler: Probably not :\04:51
Lynoureguiden: good luck, anyway. And feel free to bounce some idea at #kubuntu-offtopic04:51
AdrianHenslerDoes it happen a lot johey? Maybe it's a bad extension?04:52
guidenhehe ok :)04:52
adz21cHi, I am running Edgy amd64, I can't install KDevelop because some debs are missing (or at least the versions of the debs don't match up), am I missing a Repo or something?04:52
joheyAdrianHensler: Quite a lot. It might be a bad extension. I have a few of those.04:52
joheyAdrianHensler: Thanks for the hints. I might try to disable some of them.04:53
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buz_i'm trying to build kernel 2.6.1904:56
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buz_the package gets build just fine but it won't boot04:57
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DamnedFreakSome time ago, I heard that (k)ubuntu stores the root pw in a plain text file05:09
DamnedFreakis this true?05:09
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Jucatofalse. there is no root password in the first place05:09
DamnedFreakbut i can set it?05:09
h3sp4wnDamnedFreak: by default there is no root password (if there is one set it would be in /etc/shadow which is not world readable)05:09
CVirusDamnedFreak: it was a bug05:09
Jucatoah that one. an old bug05:09
CVirusDamnedFreak: it used to save the password that you choose during the installation05:10
Jucatovery very old bug.05:10
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DamnedFreakokay i see05:10
DamnedFreak:)05:10
Jucatoiirc, late in Breezy or very early Dapper. it has been fixed05:10
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DamnedFreakbut there is no problem to set one (using passwd or so)?05:10
h3sp4wnDamnedFreak: Not if you only do administration via the cli05:11
Jucato!sudo | DamnedFreak05:11
ubotuDamnedFreak: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:11
h3sp4wnDamnedFreak: Might mess up the pointless gui admin tools though05:11
DamnedFreakhm okay05:13
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binks_can i get bash tp append some text into a file05:15
h3sp4wnsome are patched to work with sudo (breaking working with an enabled root account)05:15
h3sp4wnbinks_: echo whatever >> file05:15
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h3sp4wnbinks_: or you can use cat or awk or whatever you need first05:16
binks_no i need to write to a file05:16
h3sp4wn >> appends05:16
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Jucato > creates/overwrites05:17
binks_i need a script to add -noask to the end of tovid.config so i would write echo -noask >> ~/.tovid/tovid.config05:18
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sprangerhello folks, i an ubuntu-newbee from germany and slowly getting mad about my problem: i need to set up an vpn.connection ton an ipcop-server (working really good with tauvpn) any ideas how to do it?05:19
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adz21cHi, I am running Edgy amd64, I can't install KDevelop because some debs are missing (or at least the versions of the debs don't match up), am I missing a Repo or something?05:19
h3sp4wnbinks_: that would add -noask on a line by itself at the end of that file05:20
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binks_thats what  want cheers05:21
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binks_thanks tested and working cheers05:23
julle!nvidiaa05:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvidiaa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:23
julle!nvidia05:23
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:23
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BluesKajjust an annoying thing with the Konverstion IRC client. Is there a setting to recall a line back to the input box like mirc and xchat?05:24
JucatoBluesKaj: like pressing Up?05:24
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BluesKajyes05:25
Jucatoworks here05:25
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BluesKajok, i must have turned it off somehow ,but I can't find the right reset...been trying for ages :(05:26
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binks_can you quote someone using konversation05:27
krautmoin05:27
JucatoBluesKaj: I'm not sure if it even has a setting to turn it off. You might want to ask in #konversatio05:27
Jucatoerr05:27
Jucato#konversation05:27
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sprangerDoes anybody know something about vpn / Ipsec????05:28
h3sp4wnspranger: What do you need to know ?05:29
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h3sp4wnspranger: Client or server ?05:29
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sprangerI trying to set up a connection to my ipcop-gateway for days (!), nothing is working, under w2k (tau-vpn) everything is perfect. Any Idea for a working GUI?05:30
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h3sp4wnspranger: What is ipcop ?05:31
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sprangeripcop is a linux-based firewall and gateway (ipsec), working very fine, secures my business-network05:32
GeckoHey there. My games have become slower suddently, is there any smart way of checking what takes up my cpu and ram? Neither top nor ksysguard is very verbose05:32
h3sp4wnspranger: Which ipsec implimentation does it use ?05:32
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h3sp4wnspranger: login to it (and see what is ps auxw) pluto = freeswan / openswan racoon = kame isakmpd = openbsd stack05:33
BluesKajJucato, just for everyones info: Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Behavior -> General -> Input box expands with text05:33
sprangerHm - i will try to find it out, havent touched it for al long time cause its perfect ...05:33
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tobiasj05:34
JucatoBluesKaj: ah so that's what "expands" meant there...05:34
h3sp4wnspranger: perfect means different things to different people05:34
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h3sp4wnspranger: If its using linux 2.4 it cannot support the newer better ipsec implimentation05:35
h3sp4wns05:35
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sprangerperfect means no trouble and doing what it should, running stable since several moths05:36
sprangeri think it uses 2.405:36
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h3sp4wnPerfect to me means not using openswan which leaks memory like hell (at least prior to 2.4.6)05:37
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lzaphello, I upgraded to Edgy and the panel is so unstable! it crashes every hour. I get some Kicker message and sometimes it reload and sometimes not. what should I do to load it again? I have no panel now! :-(05:38
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Dr_willislzap,  try making a new user. see if they have the same issue.05:38
lzapdo you have your panels stable?05:38
sprangerbut the thing is that no gui seems to work  - kvpnc is somewhat buggy and seems to produce config-files that can not be read by newer implementations and so on ...05:38
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h3sp4wnspranger: So forget the gui05:39
Dr_willislzap,  clean install here.. no crashing issues.05:39
h3sp4wnspranger: find out what the ipcop is set for and set it up using ipset05:40
h3sp4wnspranger: Are you definately using openswan not openvpn ?05:40
lzapDr_willis: but I do not want to drop all my settings what should I do? :-(05:40
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sprangeripcop contains FreeS/Wan05:41
binks_im trying to write a howto for tovid is there a way of copying a window(terminal) so i can show it in the forums in doze i can do alt - printscreen05:41
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sprangerI tried openvpn, openswan, racoon, cisco ...05:42
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h3sp4wnspranger: freeswan is no longer maintained05:42
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sprangeri read it. By the way - maybe the difficulties are the wlan ..., it seems to be a bit tricky to handle for edgy05:45
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binks_is there a way to do a screen dump in linux05:46
h3sp4wnspranger: Are you using a wireless bridge or anything ?05:46
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sprangerno, just a normal DSL-Router and an attached wlan-router (serving my home with Wlan-accessability), the ipsec-Server is quite far away05:48
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heinkel_111binks, if you use kubuntu you can printscreen and paste it05:49
heinkel_111or use Ksnapshot05:49
binks_ksnapshot just found it thanks anyhow05:49
binks_cheers mate05:50
xsachahey anyone heard of this? Coherency?05:50
xsacha"Shows Windows applications as if they were Mac ones. Try it and enjoy best of both worlds truly at the same time. No more switching between Windows to Mac OS."05:50
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HymnToLifelmao05:52
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Dr_willislzap,  this is a 'test' to see IF its a setting issue.05:55
Dr_willislzap,  if the new user has same problems. that shows its not a 'messed up user setting' issue05:56
Dr_willisxsacha,  sounds like another xp - OS-X theme thang to me.05:56
h3sp4wnspranger: The router needs to have ipsec passthrough at a minimum05:56
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xsachaDr_willis: theme? naah it has the windows apps appearing in macosx05:58
h3sp4wnspranger: You might be better off asking in the ipcop channel if there is one (as they will know what timeouts and key lengths and stuff they use)05:58
Dr_willisxsacha,  You are rather vague as to what OS the thing is even running on. :) heh05:58
h3sp4wnspranger:05:59
h3sp4wnspranger: Or install an alternative firmware onto the router and run the ipsec there (as I do)05:59
Dr_willisxsacha,   amaze your xp users -->  http://osx.portraitofakite.com/05:59
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sprangerit is working under windows (very fine!), i canm use the whole remote network. The only thing i want to realize is a PSK-based connection - as simple as possible. I just startet06:01
xsachaDr_willis: yuck, mac layout..06:01
sprangerkvpnc, and this is an excerpt of the logfile:06:01
sprangerInfo: [freeswan]  ipsec_setup: insmod /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/net/ipv4/ah4.ko ipsec_setup: insmod /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/net/ipv4/esp4.ko ipsec_setup: insmod /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/net/ipv4/ipcomp.ko ipsec_setup: insmod /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/net/ipv4/tunnel4.ko ipsec_setup: insmod /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/net/ipv4/xfrm4_tunnel.ko ipsec_setup: insmod06:01
spranger/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/net/xfrm/xfrm_user.ko ipsec_setup: insmod /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock.ko ipsec_setup: FATAL: Error inserting padlock (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock.ko): No such device ipsec_setup: auto=manual search: (/etc/ipsec.conf, line 20) illegal auto value "yes" ipsec_setup: unable to determine what conns to manual --up; none done06:01
Dr_willisxsacha,  yea.. thats an very interesting done web site. :P06:01
xsachayeah, well done but bad layout :P06:02
Dr_willisguys at work thought i had an APple Laptop after i installed that stuff. and i STILL dont see whats so 'great' about OS-X06:02
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sprangerYou are running ipsec on your router, transparent for the rest?06:03
h3sp4wnspranger: One uses openswan the other isakmpd06:04
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DamnedFreakOuh, that sucks. I just installed Kubuntu and so, played around an so on, restarted the OS and now the resolution sucks. I can't increase it more than 640x480 or so. before i had it on 1024x76806:05
DamnedFreakOo06:05
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h3sp4wnspranger: Some stuff goes thru ipsec normal traffic does not06:05
sprangerhm, is it an PC-based router or such a little box like the normal ones?06:06
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h3sp4wnasus wl500-gd - with openwrt - uclibc / openswan 2.4.6 (one side) the other side is netgear wgt634u openwrt kamikaze with isakmpd06:06
h3sp4wnmipsel based home router06:07
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sprangersounds good - is it working good?06:08
h3sp4wnfine limitation is 400k/s (by the hardware)_06:08
h3sp4wnhttp://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware?action=show&redirect=toh06:08
h3sp4wnIf your router on there you can do likewise06:08
sprangerthats ok for business06:09
lzapDr_willis: thnx06:09
sprangergood idea, i think this would do for me - no fuzzing around anymore!06:10
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sprangerThanx for Help!06:14
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Phantom12hi guys06:16
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oemive downloaded easy ubuntu but cant seam to get it to work i get this error:Unable to determine desktop environment, falling back to gksudo06:16
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Dr_willis!easyubuntu06:17
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu06:17
oemthanx06:17
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Dr_willisBEST is to learn how to install/do the stuff manually. :)06:17
Phantom12hey! i have installed kubuntu alongside WINDOWS & I wanna remove it,how can i do it?06:18
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h3sp4wnPhantom12: Remove windows ? or kubuntu ?06:18
Phantom12i wanna remove kubuntu06:18
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DamnedFreakwe do not support that :D06:19
h3sp4wnPhantom12: ask ##windows06:19
oemive dont it all before its just a lot of typeing/downloading and my computer breakes every few days because i mess with things i shouldent,how do i switch to the easyubunt irc?06:19
h3sp4wnPhantom12: Or just boot into recovery mode (from the xp cd)06:19
Phantom12ok thanks06:19
oemthere a book that might help you "unsumaning bill gates a begginers guide to necromancy"06:20
h3sp4wnPhantom12: run fixboot and fixmbr and delete the partitions from in windows and create new ones06:20
Dr_willisPeople seem to think that thee sould be a 'remove icon' on the windows desktop to remove linux. :)06:20
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h3sp4wnthere should be a button to cat /dev/urandom to any windows partition found06:21
Phantom12can i install linux on AMD Duron pc?06:21
oemwhat do i type to go to the easyubuntu irc?06:21
Dr_willisPhantom12,  linux should work fine on a DUron cpu.06:21
h3sp4wnoem: /j #easyubuntu06:21
Phantom12what about Ubuntu06:21
oem#easyubuntu06:21
Dr_willisUbuntu is 'linux' so that implies.. yes..06:22
oemwhy do you want ubuntu what was wrong with kubuntu?06:23
Phantom12what is the minimum processor speed,ram needed to install ubuntu 6.06LTS06:24
Dr_willisI normally install both desktops. :)06:24
oemif your new to linux there relitivly the same thing06:24
Dr_willisPhantom12,  ive had it working on a Pent 100 laptop with 64mb ram.. SLOWLY... :)06:24
h3sp4wnIf you are new to linux I would go for something that makes you do more (crux or something) and read a basic unix book06:24
Dr_willisPhantom12,  it can run nicely on about any mondern pc.  My laptop is a antique.06:24
oemDSL (damn small linux) never tried it but i heard it works well on slow computers06:25
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h3sp4wnhttp://crux.nu/06:25
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Dr_willisPuppyLinux, or DSL are nice tiny disrtos for old machines.06:25
Dr_willisor new 'low power' machines06:25
Dr_willis:)06:25
oemi work for a org. that gives out free computers made from e-waste and we install ubuntu on all of them 700mhz seam to work good06:26
Phantom12now i wanna try RedHat linux where i can find those CDs,i'm in Sri-Lanka06:26
Dr_willisPhantom12,  try the redhat homepage.06:26
h3sp4wnPhantom12: You have to pay for redhat06:26
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h3sp4wnPhantom12: Or use centos06:26
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notechPhantom12: believe you mean fedora06:26
h3sp4wnPhantom12: (centos is redhat without the branding)06:27
h3sp4wnfedora is not redhat06:27
oemdownload the iso from red hat06:27
oemwhat are you looking for in a distro of linux?06:27
Phantom12where i can buy it?06:27
notechfedora is/was redhat, it's the free version06:27
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Dr_willisPhantom12,  try the redhat homepage......................06:28
oemwhats up with the fnord linux?06:28
Dr_willisnever heard of that one oem06:28
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Phantom12what is the redhat homepage?06:28
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h3sp4wnFedora is much more bleeding edge than redhat which is pretty conservative (latest RHEL uses 2.6.9 I think)06:29
h3sp4wnThey are not the same codebase06:29
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h3sp4wncentos is redhat without the branding (and hence more like redhat than fedora)06:29
h3sp4wnPhantom12: www.redhat.com06:30
zorglu_centos :) i remember the us mayor story :)06:30
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zorglu_centos did good on this story, calm and resaonabke :)06:30
zorglu_i will call iana because my box say 'port is already bound' :)))))))06:31
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oemFnord is a Linux distribution designed to be built from source and maintained manually. This allows06:32
oemthe administrator maximum control over the system. Unlike other built-from source systems, Fnord is not a toy; it is intended as a production Linux system06:32
oemnever mind just looked it up06:33
zorglu_gentoo but more hardcore :)06:33
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oemPHANTOM12 what is it that your looking for in an operating system?06:34
Phantom12where i can find linux softwares for kubuntu06:34
oemgo to your menu then sytem then adept06:35
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oemso what is it your loking for in a operating system06:35
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heinkel_112is it safe to deinstall / install kde base modules...hoping to get rid of problems?06:35
heinkel_112i know, it is an old window's users tricks but ...06:36
heinkel_112X keeps crashing06:36
heinkel_112anyone else that found Dapper just more stable than edgy?06:36
oemwhats the command line the gnome base files?06:36
oemfor instaling them06:37
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PiTcReWcould someone please tell why kaffeine tries playing an mp3 for a second or so and then stops ?06:38
PiTcReWrhythmbox works06:38
PiTcReWjust not kaffeine06:38
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h3sp4wnheinkel_112: That would not be surprising (as it has twice the development time)06:39
maddoc^hi06:39
h3sp4wnheinkel_112: dapper had 8 months edgy 4 months06:39
maddoc^an1 may pls help me with installing kubuntu?06:39
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maddoc^I have a asus p5w dh deluxe motherboard and edgy stops installing just after few seconds06:40
heinkel_112h3sp4wn: i am having all sorts of problems and nuisances with kde in kubuntu edgy, is reinstall an option?06:40
PiTcReWcould someone please help me?06:40
Alter-Ego!mp306:40
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:40
ubuntu___Algum do Brazil?06:40
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heinkel_112h3sp4wn: or roll back to dapper?06:40
heinkel_112is that difficult06:40
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heinkel_112?06:40
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:41
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Sym_BrazilAlgum do Brazil??????06:41
heinkel_112!br06:41
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.06:41
heinkel_112:)06:41
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Sym_Brazile ae Heinkel06:42
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h3sp4wnheinkel_112: force downgrade you can do it but its not supported06:45
maddoc^no fix about jmicron and asus p5w dh?06:45
h3sp4wnmaddoc^: Maybe that is fixed if you compile 2.6.1906:46
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heinkel_112h3sp4wn i am just getting frustrated about the stability with kde here, applications keep crashing, startup doesn't run as intended etc, is there anyway to reset my kde?06:47
heinkel_112to start edgy...06:47
afm\colossusmaddoc^: try appending "all-generic-ide" as a kernel option06:47
h3sp4wnheinkel_112: I don't know what you mean06:47
maddoc^I cannot even install06:48
oemng that frustrates me is every week when i shut off my computer kubuntu refuses to start back up again06:48
mathieu_everyone is talking about beryl but i can not find exatly what it is. anyone got a webpage that explains in details, screenshots and videos what it does exactly?06:48
heinkel_112h3spawn: i was just thinking that edgy was not always this bad, what can i do to bring it back to the starting point?06:48
oemitll get to the login screen ask for my password then go back to the login screen06:48
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heinkel_112h3sp4wn: is there a reset-settings kde somewhere?06:49
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h3sp4wnheinkel_112: Not that you should use (see the topic of #kde)06:49
h3sp4wnheinkel_112: Don't delete ~/.kde !06:49
oemhow do i activate the 3d desktop switcher?06:50
mr-roadsterwhat program can i use to print dvd covers/?06:50
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zblachhey all. quick question. sound fails on my laptop after hibernation06:52
Launchpad-Laphiya guys06:52
zblachany ideas?06:52
oemanyone know any cool programs in the repos that just make kubuntu lok cooler like the 3d desktop orwhatever?06:52
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zblachoem: 3ddesktop06:53
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Launchpad-Lapi need alittle help.. im runing ubuntu 6.10 and i cant get xchat to run on it because it being x8606:53
Launchpad-Laper 6.06 i mean06:53
afm\colossushuh?06:54
zblachis there a laptop specific channel?06:54
Launchpad-Lapsorry i mean im runing 64bit06:54
oemive tried typing that into the command window nothing happens06:54
zblachLaunchpad-Lap: are you sure you're using ubuntu?06:55
Launchpad-Lapyeah06:55
zblachis it also a computer?06:55
Launchpad-Lapubuntu 6.06 64bit06:55
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oemZBLACH ive tried puttin that into  the command window and nothign happens06:56
oemhow do i send a message to someone in the room?06:57
oemlike i got this: oem: 3ddesktop06:57
Launchpad-Lapi cant run konversation on ubuntu can i06:58
abattoirLaunchpad-Lap: yeah you can :)06:58
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abattoiroem: like this?06:58
zblachoem. did you get it?06:59
abattoiroem: or do you mean a PM?06:59
Launchpad-Lapu can?06:59
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oemyup06:59
abattoirLaunchpad-Lap: you mean gnome right?06:59
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zblachlike, sudo apt-get install 3ddesktop06:59
abattoir*under gnome06:59
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oemlike your doing abatoir06:59
Launchpad-Lapyea06:59
oemZBLACH no i didint06:59
abattoiroem: type the first few letters of the person's nick, then press tab06:59
zblachoem: do so06:59
Launchpad-Lapbecause im runing 64bit of ubuntu and i dont see any irc client for it06:59
abattoiroem: that'd complete their nick, and would highlight/notify them07:00
zblachit doesn't come preinstalled07:00
oemyea i downloaded it07:00
abattoirLaunchpad-Lap: yeah, you can run konversation under gnome07:00
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abattoirLaunchpad-Lap: you can run 'gnome' apps under kde and 'kde' apps under gnome07:00
JETC-hrmm07:00
mr-roadsterwhat program can i use to print dvd covers/?07:00
mr-roadsterwhat program can i use to print dvd covers/?07:00
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JETC-why is the server list in my konversation won't disappear07:00
JETC-:O07:00
JETC-oh nvm07:01
JETC-lag07:01
JETC-XD07:01
DamnedFreakO_o07:01
oemzblach: then i try to run the command in the command window and it says it cant run the comand07:01
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oemabattoir: like this?07:02
abattoiroem: yes :)07:02
oemabattoir: thanks07:02
zblachoem, how exactly? what does it say?07:02
abattoiroem: no problem07:02
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oemzblach: alt+f2 then 3ddesktop =07:04
oem3ddesktop07:04
oemCould not run the specified command.07:04
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zblachoem: error message. what is it?07:04
zblachlol07:04
zblachdo this instead07:04
zblachalt+space 3ddesktop07:04
shulmanwhat file do I edit to change a file association in kde? When I do it through system settings or change the association through the context menus, it doesn't work07:05
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xsacha07:05
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oemzblach: alt space pops up katapult and when i type in 3 a calculator starts07:05
zblachok. alt+space konsole07:05
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zblach3dd[tab] 07:06
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oemok im in konsol07:06
zblach3dde{tab}07:07
oemso 3dde then hit tab?07:07
zblachyeah07:07
zblachshould auto-complete07:07
zblachdoes it?07:07
zblachoem?07:08
oemoot@ubuntu:/home/oem# 3ddesk07:08
oemAttempting to start 3ddesktop server.07:08
oem3ddeskd: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libglide3.so.3: undefined symbol: __LINE__07:08
oemServer not found after waiting 5 seconds.07:08
oemCould not find server.07:08
oemTry starting manually (3ddeskd)07:08
oemroot@ubuntu:/home/oem# 3ddeskd07:08
oem3ddeskd: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libglide3.so.3: undefined symbol: __LINE_07:08
zblachtell me about your computer07:09
zblachspecifically, graphic card07:09
oemlol07:09
abattoiroem: run it as normal user07:09
abattoirnot as root07:09
JohnFluxit's grey07:09
JohnFluxbox like07:09
abattoir:P07:09
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abattoiroem: is there a particular reason you installed in oem mode?07:09
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oemits a laptop with no screenciggerette burns all over it and i get my wifi signall thru a coffee can07:10
mwehmm. it seems kde-look.org is down :|07:10
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oemno not really07:10
Launchpadwhich is better kon or xchat?07:10
oembut next time i restart itll go thru the rest of the setup process07:10
oemwhats oem anyways?07:10
JohnFluxkon07:10
abattoiroem: Original Equipment Manufacturer07:11
zblachOrganization of Esoteric Mathematicians07:11
abattoiroem: this mode is meant for companies pre-installing kubuntu etc.07:11
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notechLaunchpad: personal choice, try them both and decide for yourself07:11
OwnerJust a really quick questions, I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy and for some reason if I try to upgrade kopete is says it is not available.07:11
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oemtried  in normal user mode and same thing happend07:12
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oemAttempting to start 3ddesktop server.07:13
oem3ddeskd: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libglide3.so.3: undefined symbol: __LINE__07:13
oemServer not found after waiting 5 seconds.07:13
oemCould not find server.07:13
oemTry starting manually (3ddeskd)07:13
oemoem@ubuntu:~$ 3ddeskd07:13
Launchpadyeah i like konversation better07:13
oem307:13
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oemso the servers just down and i have to wait?07:13
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Bubba_Gumpchatzilla :D07:13
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voicu!lisp07:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lisp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:13
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Launchpaddoes ubuntu/kubuntu support that xld or xle what ever it is?07:16
oemim using ktorrent what would the best preinstalled search enging be?07:17
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cloakableHow do I get glxgears to give me fps?07:18
lupulhi there. can anyone tell me please what could i do to see all my friends pictures in kopete or gaim07:18
lupulis it possible?07:18
oemwhats the name of the irc for torents?07:19
mwehmm. now kde-look.org is timing out. before it said host does not exist :|07:20
oemlupul: settings show offline users?07:20
lupulno07:20
oemhuh i dont know07:20
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oemsorry lupul07:20
lupulok07:20
lupulnp07:20
mwecloakable: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark07:20
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lupulat least you tried :)07:21
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mwecloakable: if you get low fps just make the window smaller or change resolution to something lower and it fly07:21
mweit will*07:22
mwecloakable: that's one of the main reasons why it sucks as a benchmark07:22
cloakable:P07:23
ubuntu_i'm using the live cd bc i killed grub after installing windows.. how do i get it back easiest w/out reinstall?07:23
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ubuntu_i can't get to the disk do do a grub-install which is what i was thinking of doing07:24
cloakablemwe: Nah, just wanted to check if my nvidia card is working :P And see how well, in general07:24
lumpkiyou need a boot disk ubuntu_07:24
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oemanyone know the comand to boot from a cd on a i mac running osx or os9?07:25
ubuntu_lumpki: the live/install cd won't do?07:25
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ubuntu_oem, hold down "c" ?07:25
lumpkii use the first slacvkware cd, it not be the only way, but its the way i know07:25
lumpki*slackware07:25
ubuntu_oem, while starting up, if memory correct07:25
oemthanx il try07:26
ubuntu_np07:26
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oemhow hard would it be to network my laptop to another computer and share my wifi conection?07:26
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FragragDoes Kubuntu have a07:27
Fragragfirewall included?07:27
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notechcloakable: i don't remember offhand, try -printfps or -fps maybe07:27
oemanyone set up an astrisks server here?07:28
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cloakablenotech: The -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark tag worked :P07:29
jeismathis morning my computer wouldn't boot and it gave me the message: "BOOT DISK FAILURE. PLEASE ENTER BOOT DISK AND PRESS ENTER"07:30
jeismahow do i fix this?07:30
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jeismai just put in my kubuntu cd07:30
jeismaand none of my old kubuntu data is on here07:30
cloakablenotech: Though -printfps works too07:31
jeismaanybody know?07:31
notechcloakable: i knew kubuntu went crazy, but that's rediculous :)07:31
ubuntu_jeisma, did you mount your hd? the live cd doesn't by default07:31
jeismawhat is mount hd?07:31
jeismai already had kubuntu installed and been using it for a couple months now07:32
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jeismaall of a sudden it won't let me boot, so i put this in to get onto konversation and get some help07:32
ubuntu_as root: mount /dev/hdaX /somedir  (where X is you kubuntu partition so you can see your files)07:32
afm\colossusjeisma: that message suggests an error at the BIOS/Harddisk-level07:32
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ubuntu_jeisma did you install some other os after kubuntu?07:33
jeismaubuntu_ no i didn't07:33
jeismaafm\colossus what should i do then?07:33
ubuntu_well i did and that's why i can boot either :P07:33
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oemthats one reason i never shut kubuntu off07:34
ubuntu_did you mount your drive to see if you files are there?07:34
oemfor me restart = bad things07:34
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oemevery fricken time07:34
jeismaubuntu_ how do i mout my hd to see if my files are there?07:34
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ubuntu_[18:32]  <ubuntu_> as root: mount /dev/hdaX /somedir  (where X is you kubuntu partition so you can see your files)07:34
oem as root: mount /dev/hdaX /somedir  (where X is you kubuntu partition so you can see your files)07:34
oemjinx07:35
jeismahow do i know what my X is?07:35
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notechjeisma: you mean version?07:36
ubuntu_ok so i have my hd mounted and i can see my files. now i need to get grub back on my mbr.. how do i  do that?07:36
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jeismanotech i mean how do i know what my kubuntu partition is?07:37
ubuntu_jeisma: you can't find out from live cd i think. but that command won't break anything so just try from 1 and work your way up til you get it07:37
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jeismaok07:37
notechjeanette: oh, sorry, wasn't paying enough attention. heh07:38
oemanyone know a free verson of skype?or an astrisks server?07:38
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jeismai tried up to 8, should i keep going?07:41
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fdovingjeisma: you can try 'cat /proc/partitions'07:41
ubuntu_no, can't be that high07:42
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jeismafdoving just that instead of /dev/hdaX/somedir?07:42
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ubuntu_no just type what he said by itself n command line07:43
fdovingjeisma: no, first run 'cat /proc/partitions' to get a list of partitions.07:43
jeismamajor minor  #blocks  name07:43
jeisma   7     0     610504 loop007:43
jeismawhat does that mean?07:43
ubuntu_i'm curious if that works from live cd07:43
ubuntu_is your hd sata or ide?07:43
jeismanot sure07:44
michalHi i need help, but i dont speak English very well07:44
ubuntu_you might need to use sda instead of hda07:44
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ubuntu_the mounting command change the h for 's' as in sda for hda07:44
michalmount: can't find /dev/hda7 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab07:44
michal"mount: can't find /dev/hda7 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" kubuntu write this07:45
michalwhen i open particion07:45
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ubuntu_jeisma: it work?07:46
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michalAre you help me ??07:46
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jeismaubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda1/somedir07:48
jeismamount: can't find /dev/sda1/somedir in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab07:48
jeismaubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda2/somedir07:48
jeismamount: can't find /dev/sda2/somedir in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab07:48
jeismaubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda3/somedir07:48
jeismaubuntu_ am i doing this right?07:48
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ubuntu_sudo mount /devsda2 somedir/ ("somedir" can be any empty dir you make)07:49
ubuntu_you're missing a space it seems07:49
jeismaso what do i type exactly then?07:50
jeismatpe (space) if there should be a space07:50
jeismaand "somedir" should just be "dir"?07:50
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notechcloakable: i'm curious, what version of kubuntu are you using?07:50
ubuntu_ok copy paste the following:07:50
ubuntu_mkdir myhd07:51
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ubuntu_mount /dev/sda2 myhd/07:51
ubuntu_cd myhd/07:51
ubuntu_ls07:51
ubuntu_<end>07:51
ubuntu_and you should see your files if they're on sda207:52
jeismathat's all supposed to be on one line?07:52
ubuntu_no each a line07:52
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ubuntu_all with "sudo" in front if you're not root07:52
angasulewhenever I visit a page with flash, konqueror asks me to install flash, how do I tell konqueror I NEVER want to install flash?07:52
jeismaoh07:52
jeismaok07:52
ubuntu___ vv07:53
jeismawith the first one07:53
jeismai got this07:53
jeismaubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir myhd07:53
jeismamkdir: cannot create directory `myhd': File exists07:53
jeismaubuntu@ubuntu:~$07:53
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ubuntu_ok so you have already that folder created. go on to the second command07:54
jeismai did and they're not existing07:54
jeismai tried sda2, sda1, and hda107:55
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jeismaand now hda207:55
jeismanow both hda3, and sda307:55
jeismashould i keep going?07:56
[Amigo] angasule: click property -> modules , and check upload modules ...07:56
ubuntu_mine is on 3, for example. past 6 or 7 it's hopeless07:57
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angasule[Amigo] : uh? property->modules? was that message for someone else?07:57
ubuntu_make sure you look in folder myhd/ to see if your partition was mounted07:57
jeismahow do i see if it was mounted?07:58
[Amigo] angasule: <angasule> whenever I visit a page with flash, konqueror asks me to install flash, how do I tell konqueror I NEVER want to install flash?07:58
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jeismaubuntu_ how do i see if it was mounted?08:00
angasule[Amigo] : where is 'property'? I don't see such a menu in konqueror08:00
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ubuntu_ls myhd to see if folder has files in it08:01
jeismai put that in the terminal and it brought up nothing08:01
jeismaubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo ls myhd08:01
jeismaubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls myhd08:01
jeismaubuntu@ubuntu:~$08:02
ubuntu_what does "ls" print out?08:02
ubuntu_just by itself08:02
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angasule[Amigo] : I can't receive dcc sends currently, do you mean 'Settings'?08:03
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[Amigo] angasule: Menu ->  Preferences -> Konqur Preferences -> Modules (sorry I have other language of interface )08:05
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ubuntu_jeisma, gotta restart to try some things out.  you doing ok? did it work?08:07
angasule[Amigo] : spasivo, I think I know what place you mean, but I'm unsure what option to choose08:07
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ubuntu_bbl08:07
[Amigo] angasule: pogalusta08:08
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Digital_PioneerHi. I'm having a little bit of trouble with KDE... KDM works, but once I login, it says "Could not start kstartupconfig. Check your installation."08:17
RogueJediXHey. I installed the kdegames package via apt-get, but removed ktuberling afterwards and now apt-get keeps pestering me about autoremoving the rest of the games. How do I make it not do that?08:17
Digital_PioneerI've reinstalled kdelibs4c2a thrice now, but no luck.08:17
jeismaso nobody knows how to fix the "boot disk failure" problem?08:18
Digital_PioneerRogueJediX: KDE games are funny that way... You'll have to reinstall it before APT will quit complaining about dependencies.08:18
Digital_Pioneer(Or you might be able to hack the deps lists, but I wouldn't know how)08:19
RogueJediXDigital_Pioneer: Damn. I was hoping it wouldn't come to that. Oh, well. Thanks anyway08:19
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jeismaanyone know if i install kubuntu, if i will lose all my data on my hard drive?08:28
jeismareinstall*08:28
Alter-Egohow do i get the speaker icon back on the taskbar ?08:28
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jbruckman!grub08:29
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:29
Alter-Egojeisma backup your data.  no, kubuntu will allow you to partition off a section and keep that section intact as i understand it.  backups are good however08:29
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jeismaAlter-Ego how do i backup my data if i can't access it? here's my situation, i have a bootdisk failure problem, im on a kubuntu live cd right now08:29
Alter-Egoif you re-install, and you don't have a seperate /home partition and this is where your saving your data to, then you may lose your data08:29
Alter-Egomount the drive that your having problems with ... /mkdir /mnt/somedir08:30
fdoving[Amigo] : did you manage to disable the flash-install wizard?08:30
Alter-Egomount /dev/hda1 /mnt/somedir08:30
jeismawhat is "somedir"?08:31
Alter-Egothe you will be able to view your data08:31
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Alter-Egoany name you choose08:31
Alter-Egoso, mkdir /mnt/hda108:31
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Alter-Egothen mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda108:31
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Alter-Egoprovided your data resides on hda108:31
jbruckmanho can I reconfigure grub from the command line?08:31
jbruckmanHawkwind: ping08:31
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jeismahow do i know where my data resides?08:32
martin__Where do I set what sould happen when I close my laptop lid?08:32
Alter-Egowhat data are you looking for ?08:32
jeismathe data on my hard drive08:32
Hawkwindjbruckman: Pong ?08:32
jeismabuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /mnt/hda108:32
jeismaubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda108:32
jeismamount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist08:32
jeismaubuntu@ubuntu:~$08:32
[Amigo] fdoving, no08:33
_mantis_how do I go about asking a question here?08:33
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Alter-EgoK --> System Settings --> Advanced --> Disk & File Systems08:33
Alter-Ego_mantis_ don't ask to ask, just ask08:34
cloakable_mantis_: By askin a question.08:34
fdoving[Amigo] : ok, copy /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/kcmnspluginrc to ~/.kde/share/config/ - edit ~/.kde/share/config/kcmnspluginrc and delete the last line.08:34
coreymon77guys08:34
Alter-Egogals08:34
fdoving[Amigo] : the PluginsListFile line..08:34
coreymon77is there any way at all (such as a program) to create/modify a keyboard layout in kubuntu08:34
Alter-Egoto say, dovorak ?08:35
jbruckmanHawkwind: it's Admiral_Chicago, what is that Ktorrent package you gave me08:35
coreymon77no08:35
coreymon77i use qwerty08:35
jbruckmando you recall, it was a 2.0 Snv iirc08:35
coreymon77iwhat i mean08:35
[Amigo] fdoving: : I don't need to disable the flash-install wizard?08:35
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[Amigo] fdoving: : I don't need to disable the flash-install wizard! :)08:35
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Hawkwindjbruckman: http://buntudot.org/people/~jdong/ktorrent/svn-dapper/08:35
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coreymon77i want to modify the phonetic hebrew layout a bit08:35
_mantis_:) hehe ok; kubuntu 6.10 on i686; soundblaster live 24 bit external usb recognized but kmix, etc. always defaulting to onboard intel ICH6 which can't be turned off in BIOS; been searching the net to find a solution08:35
coreymon77change where a couple keys are08:35
coreymon77stuff like that08:36
fdoving[Amigo] : ok, then it's ok..  :)08:36
jeismaAlter-Ego its called /dev/hdc08:36
jeismadoes that sound right?08:36
jeismait's under the heading: Device08:36
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frojndhello all. I have rpoblem with firefox. Sometimes I can't paste or write link :S I have to restart once or more times that it starts working.... anyone know how to fix this?08:36
jbruckmanHawkwind: ty08:36
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Hawkwindjbruckman: No problem08:37
coreymon77is it possible to do that?08:37
coreymon77modify the layout a bit08:37
jeismaAlter-Ego: and there's nothing under mount point08:37
coreymon77because it annoys me slightly08:37
Alter-Ego. /dev/hdc is your cdrom drive08:37
coreymon77isnt there some sory of msklc program for kubuntu?08:37
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Digital_PioneerKDE doesn't work. Upon KDM login, I see "Cannot run kstartupconfig. Check your installation."08:38
Digital_PioneerNot exactly a trivial problem..........08:38
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_mantis_hmmm08:38
_mantis_no great words of wisdom for me ? :)08:39
martin__When I close the lid of my laptop, the (external) screen becomes blank. Where can I change this?08:39
Alter-Ego_mantis_ what was your question ?08:39
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_mantis_Alter-Ego: typed it above, sort of; what's the trick to get kub6.10 to work with SBlive!24 bit external usb; some sounds come via SB, but vol. control on SB unit doesn't work and kmix insists of defaulting to onboard intel sound08:40
[Amigo] fdoving:  It's need angasule08:40
angasulefdoving: whenever I visit a page that has flash, konqueror asks me if I want to install it, I don't. But it asks every single time08:41
coreymon77guys08:42
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fdoving[Amigo] : ah..sorry missuunderstood the situation :)08:43
fdovingangasule: ok, copy /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/kcmnspluginrc to ~/.kde/share/config/ - edit ~/.kde/share/config/kcmnspluginrc and delete the last line.08:43
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fdovingangasule: the PluginsListFile line..08:43
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coreymon77isnt there a way to modify a keyvoard layout?08:44
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angasulefdoving: I did that, opened a new konqueror, and it still asks me to install flash, tried closing konqueror, opening a new one, etc, several times08:45
fn0rdp0rtlandhow do i regiter my nick?08:45
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visik7does anyone got kbtobexclient working on edgy ?08:46
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fdoving!register | fn0rdp0rtland08:46
ubotufn0rdp0rtland: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration08:46
fn0rdp0rtlandor how do i change my nick?08:46
fn0rdp0rtlandthanx08:46
jeismai'm having a "boot disk failure" can anyone help me with it?08:46
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fn0rdp0rtlandwith linux?08:46
_mantis_thanks guys :(08:47
fn0rdp0rtlandare u runing windows too jeima?08:47
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trughiohih08:47
intelikeywell i've found another major blunder in this jibberish called code08:47
trughiociao08:47
intelikeyiceauth is also hard coded to use /root/08:47
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fn0rdp0rtlandjeisma:  are you running windows and linux or jut linux?08:47
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intelikeyas some of you may know /root/ is not root's home dir here.  so kdm and iceauth both have to mkdir /root/ and then make their files in there.....08:48
ikhouvanjedoes someone now where i can buy games for linux that sure works on it?08:48
mc__ikhouvanje: www.linuxgamepublishing.com08:49
ikhouvanjeOk thx mc_08:49
angasuleikhouvanje: in general, if a game works on linux, it says so, and there are plenty of free ones as well08:49
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angasuleikhouvanje: got a dutch girlfriend? ;)08:50
angasulefdoving: any ideas?08:50
ikhouvanjeyes why08:50
jullewhat do i have to write in the xorg.conf at the end its something like Extensions....08:50
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julleits to enable beryl and aiglx08:50
fn0rdp0rtlandwhat are "super cow powers"08:50
fn0rdp0rtland!regiter | fn0rdp0rtland08:50
fn0rdp0rtland!register | fn0rdp0rtland08:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about regiter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:50
ubotufn0rdp0rtland: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration08:50
fdovingangasule: killall -9 konqueror, restart konq and try again.08:50
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ikhouvanjei am running linux mint but i see now that it's based on kubuntu?08:50
angasulefdoving: still no go08:51
mc__ikhouvanje: you're right08:51
angasuleikhouvanje: your nickname is kind of a giveaway :D08:51
ikhouvanje:d:d:d thx mc_08:51
ikhouvanjea giveaway08:51
ikhouvanje?08:51
ikhouvanjeI doesn't understand08:51
fdovingangasule: ok, edit /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/kcmnspluginrc as root, remove the last line.08:51
intelikeywhat's the gui cups configuration app called ?08:52
ikhouvanjedoes someone now if bea( de codename of linux mint 2.1 is also based on kubuntu?08:53
intelikeyi doubt that it will work seeing that it's using the wrong dir....08:53
angasulefdoving: thanks a LOT, I think that did it, any idea if that bug has been submitted yet?? I guess testers always said yes to flash...08:53
fdovingangasule: the whole wizard will be removed as it's not a good solution to the problem.08:53
angasulefdoving: ah, ok, thanks for the info :)08:54
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ikhouvanjedoesn someone can run warzone 2.0.4 on kubuntu or ubuntu? so yes how08:54
fn0rdp0rtlandwhats berly?08:54
coreymon77is there nothing i can do?08:54
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fn0rdp0rtlandand whats "super cow powers" ive gotten messages from apt-get and aptitude that it ether does or dosent have super cow powers?08:55
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fn0rdp0rtlandprobly some hindu thing08:56
barktpolarHi There08:56
andersoninstall nvidia fx 500 driver?08:56
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andersoninstall nvidia fx 5200 driver?08:56
DralaFihow does kbubuntu do the pmount mounting? I have pmount installed and setup, though media:/sda1 is blank in konqueror, and /media/ has loads of disk/ directories. Everytime I refresh konqueror media:/sda1 page, it adds another dir in /media/ with the device mounted there. What am I doing wrong?08:56
barktpolarDoes Kubuntu 6.10 still require 256 MB of RAM or can it be used with 128 MB of RAM08:56
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ikhouvanje256 MB I thought barktpolar08:56
DralaFiI end up with my device mounted many many times in varying dirs in /media08:56
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ikhouvanjebut if your computer is not powerfull enough take than xubuntu08:57
Lynoureikhouvanje: Have you tried running it already? It should be possible. If not as a binary, by compiling it yourself (my, your nick is weird.. ik hou niet van je :) )08:57
ikhouvanjelol are you dutch? are you jaloes?08:57
intelikeyikhouvanje what computer "is not powerfull enough" ?08:57
DralaFiSounds like KDE is not calling pmount with the lock param, but how would it? How does kubuntu do it?08:57
Lynoureikhouvanje: no, just married to a dutch guy08:57
coreymon77fn0rdp0rtland: super cow powers is just another way of saying root privs08:57
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Lynoureikhouvanje: I do not speak it much myself.08:58
ikhouvanjeif your pc is not powerfull enough than you take xubuntu08:58
intelikeyikhouvanje and what computer "is not powerfull enough" ?08:58
barktpolarMy RAM is onyl 128 Megs08:58
tony__can't anyone else not access kde-look site?08:58
Lynoureikhouvanje: Warzone seems interesting, thanks for mentioning it.08:58
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ikhouvanjewell take dan barktpolar08:58
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ikhouvanjehow do i install it please lynoure08:58
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ubuntu_how can i see data on my hard drive off a kubuntu live cd?08:59
ikhouvanjebecause i don't now08:59
DralaFitony__, doesn't seem I can access kde-look.org08:59
Admiral_Chicagotony__: looks like it's going to time out08:59
Admiral_Chicagoyup08:59
notechbarktpolar: have you ever seen an OS require less ram for new versions? :)08:59
ikhouvanjeyes take xubuntu08:59
intelikeyi run kubuntu on 64m of ram with no swap  so again i ask "what computer is not powerfull enough" ???08:59
tony__sucks, i got a script on there that's messed up and been waiting hours for the site to get back up08:59
ubuntu_how can i see data on my hard drive off a kubuntu live cd?09:00
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jeismahow can i see data on my hard drive off a kubuntu live cd?09:00
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ikhouvanjea ok for ubuntu 6.10 you need 256 MB and if your computer doesn't have that dan you can choose to double your memory or else take Xubuntu09:00
ikhouvanjeif you have less than 256 MB09:00
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intelikeyikhouvanje you don't need 256m of ram09:01
poningrujeisma: you would have to mount it09:01
intelikeyyou only need that to run the live CD09:01
ikhouvanjeeum with only 128 mb my laptop crashes09:01
notechyou can usually run on less than required, but the box is slower09:01
Lynoureikhouvanje: I'm not sure I would, their official site has only windows stuff. Puzzling. Can you point me to where you found the Linux version, if not in Softpedia?09:01
intelikeyor should i say the live CD + the installer.09:01
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ikhouvanjeok lynoure wait a second09:01
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tony__if i can run xp on my mom's 64mb memory pc, surely ubuntu will work with less09:02
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intelikeyikhouvanje the alternative cd   can install on 128m   or even on 96m09:02
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ikhouvanjego to this site lynoure http://wz2100.net/09:03
ikhouvanjei downloaded it but i don't now how to install or compile it09:03
fn0rdp0rtlandwhats that mean? ik hou niet van je?09:03
jeismahow do i mount the hard drive?09:03
fn0rdp0rtlandi get 90-100% signal strenth on my wifi card but it keeps quiting on me any advice?09:04
zorglu_tony__: xubuntu is good for such machine09:04
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Lynoureikhouvanje: ok... So, did you try the installer already? It seems to be binary, who knows it might just run by setting it executable and running it, but I will not try that on this computer. (I avoid running vague binaries)09:05
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coreymon77i try to use apt whenever possible09:06
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fn0rdp0rtlandjeisma:  system settings then advanced mode or something like that in the top left then disks i think09:06
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ckd!res09:07
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:07
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Lynoureikhouvanje: If not, might be best to contact the people on the site. I'm too lazy now to poke at the source code to see if it is straightforward to compile and install.09:07
jeismacan someone please help me mount my drive so i can get data off my hard drive?09:07
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jeismai'm very bad with linux09:08
Lynoureikhouvanje: or, actually, join #warzone09:08
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zorglu_!mount | jeisma09:08
ubotujeisma: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks09:08
Lynoureikhouvanje: that's there channel on freenode (this irc network)09:08
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fn0rdp0rtlandanyone else ever have problems with a wifi card just randomly quiting in ubntu?even when you have a good 90-100%signal?09:08
Lynoures/there/their09:08
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blind_where/how can i get libguichan09:09
fn0rdp0rtlandwhats the ! in front of !mount?09:09
ikhouvanje_if your wifi card doesn't work good use vmware player09:09
intelikeyfn0rdp0rtland no wifi here but i have heard that mentioned     check the ubuntu wikis09:09
visik7 kbtobexclient is buggedi n edgy09:09
fn0rdp0rtlandill go check it out09:09
sheldoncan someone tell me how to configure grub to default to windows at boot09:09
zorglu_!dualboot09:10
ubotuDual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)09:10
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fn0rdp0rtlandwhats the ! stand for at the front of comands?09:10
intelikeysheldon set it to default in the /boot/grub/menu.lst09:10
zorglu_fn0rdp0rtland: it is for a command in the bot09:10
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fn0rdp0rtlandbot? sorry im new09:11
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zorglu_fn0rdp0rtland: a programm made to help people on irc09:11
zorglu_!bot09:11
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots09:11
zorglu_fn0rdp0rtland: there are nobody behind 'ubotu' keyboard. it is a programm09:11
intelikeybot  short for robot09:11
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blind_where/how can i get libguichan??09:13
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fn0rdp0rtlandcool09:13
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zorglu_!info libguichan09:13
ubotuPackage libguichan does not exist in any distro I know09:13
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fn0rdp0rtlandso if i wanted info on say hotdogs i would say !hotdogs?09:13
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intelikey!libguichan009:13
ubotulibguichan0: Guichan is a small, efficient C++ GUI library. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0-4ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 137 kB, installed size 448 kB09:13
JoshJSo how do I set my right alt key to actually function as an alt key?09:14
zorglu_intelikey: oh all in the 0 :)09:14
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fn0rdp0rtlandand if ubotu knew anything about tasty tasty hotdogs he would tell me?09:14
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JoshJit won't let me change mod5 to another alt key :(09:14
blind_... so where do i get it frome ???????09:14
fn0rdp0rtland!vmware09:14
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare09:14
intelikey!tasty tasty hotdogs | fn0rdp0rtland09:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tasty tasty hotdogs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:15
zorglu_blind_: quit the "???" please09:15
intelikeylike that :)09:15
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DralaFihow does kbubuntu do the pmount mounting? I have pmount installed and setup, though media:/sda1 is blank in konqueror, and /media/ has loads of disk/ directories. Everytime I refresh konqueror media:/sda1 page, it adds another dir in /media/ with the device mounted there. What am I doing wrong?09:15
zorglu_DralaFi: and the new media dir does contains the proper disk ?09:16
DralaFiyes09:16
DralaFihowever you can't access anything using the media:/ kio09:16
intelikeyhehhe another "feature" of the new kubuntu i assume   lol09:16
zorglu_DralaFi: ok my guess is the 'mount path is used' aka you got another process on /media/sda1 somewhere. would that be possible ?09:17
fn0rdp0rtland!tasty tasty hotdogs09:17
fn0rdp0rtland!tasty tasty hotdogs | fnordportland09:17
fn0rdp0rtlandhow come it dosent give me info if i type !gnome?09:17
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tasty tasty hotdogs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:17
DralaFiie. media:/sda1/ is blank. Everytime you refresh it adds another mount point to /media and does another pmount09:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tasty tasty hotdogs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:17
JoshJ!gnome09:17
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.09:17
JoshJare you registered, fn0rdp0rtland ?09:17
fn0rdp0rtlandnever mind i got it09:17
fn0rdp0rtlandno09:17
zorglu_fn0rdp0rtland: please dont abuse the bot here. you can /msg ubotu to get the same result09:17
JoshJyou have to be registered to do that, don't you?09:18
DralaFizorglu_, there's no /media/sda109:18
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zorglu_DralaFi: "ls -ld /media/sda1" <- what is the output of this09:18
fn0rdp0rtlandsorry zorglu im just trying to learn,didint even know about the msg command09:18
zorglu_fn0rdp0rtland: no problem09:19
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DralaFi/dev/sda1 on /media/disk-15 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=lower)09:19
DralaFi/dev/sda1 on /media/disk-16 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=lower)09:19
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DralaFi/usr/bin/ls: /media/sda1: No such file or directory09:19
zorglu_ls -ld gives you this ? unlikly :)09:19
DralaFizorglu_, that's from mount09:19
saadhow do i install synaptics09:20
DralaFimedia:/ kioslave does show media:/sda1 though09:20
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intelikeysaad sudo apt-get install synaptic09:20
JoshJSo I installed Kubuntu and Xubuntu, how do I get my Ubuntu loading screen and login screen back?09:20
zorglu_DralaFi: im think i am out of idea... sorry09:20
DralaFizorglu_, same here. Thank you anyways.09:20
saadi am trying to mount my ntfs partitions. is there a package that would make ntfs mounting a little easier09:21
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JoshJ!ntfs09:21
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse09:21
JoshJ!fuse09:21
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse09:21
intelikeyJoshJ where did you put, or what did you do with the "Ubuntu loading screen and login screen" ?09:21
JoshJintelikey: i didn't do anything with them, it's just that when I installed kubuntu and xubuntu they made the kubuntu loading screen and xubuntu login screen show up -_-09:22
JoshJi'd rather have the standard Ubuntu loading screen and Ubuntu login screen, and i'm not really sure where I change those at09:22
intelikeyah  dpkg-reconfigure gdm09:22
intelikeysudo that ^09:23
intelikeyas to the splash screen     maybe reconfigure  usplash   idk...09:23
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Digital_PioneerDr_willis: Ah, yes. Hi. :)09:24
Dr_willis:)09:24
fn0rdp0rtlandikhouvanje_:  hows vmware player going to help me?09:24
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JoshJeh, don't think dpkg-reconfigure will do what i want :\09:24
torporhi all09:24
JoshJdid it anyway but i remember doing that on the install and choosing gdm09:25
fn0rdp0rtlandikhouvanje_: seems like a cool program but i dont see what it has to do with my wifi?09:25
torporjust upgraded to kubuntu (edgy) from MEPIS, and i was wondering if anyone knows why its so laggy to bring up any screens that use the 'administrator' access, such as the user administration screens?  i get a red box, and then it takes **AGES** to pop up the authentication dialog asking for my password ..09:25
torporis this something to do with dhcpd/dns?09:25
kellowho can tell me how do i install a bin file09:25
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kellowho can tell me how do i install a bin file09:26
kellowho can tell me how do i install a bin file09:26
Digital_Pioneerkello: .bin?09:26
torporkello: depends on whats in the .bin file .. if its a shell-archive, you just go 'sh somefile.bin' .. but i would double-check first.09:26
Digital_Pioneerkello: Try setting it to executable.09:26
torpor.bin files can also be old school MacOS archives ..09:26
DralaFiwhat;s with the auto-repeat?09:26
Digital_Pioneerkello: Right-click->Properties->Permissions->Is Executable.09:27
intelikeytorpor chmod 755 file.bin ;file.bin09:27
kelloDigital_Pioneer: look it`s the instalation of a java develop suite09:27
ikhouvanje_is ubuntu and kubuntu the last year more populairder than the years therefor?09:27
JoshJbleh i have to say i don't much like KDE :(09:27
intelikeyerr ;./file.bin09:27
Dr_williskello,   depends on WHAT .bin file it is also..09:27
kelloits a java instalationb09:28
Dr_willis!java09:28
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository09:28
kelloinstallation09:28
intelikeyJoshJ i don't blame you.  it most certenly isn't 'nome09:28
Digital_Pioneerkello: I'd try (from commandline) "sh file.bin"09:28
torporintelikey: not my problem.09:28
Dr_willisYou dont need to mess with the java .bin files at all.09:28
torporjust upgraded to kubuntu (edgy) from MEPIS, and i was wondering if anyone knows why its so laggy to bring up any screens that use the 'administrator' access, such as the user administration screens?  i get a red box, and then it takes **AGES** to pop up the authentication dialog asking for my password ..09:28
JoshJkde also seems oddly slower :(09:28
Dr_willisto install suns java09:28
JoshJnot sure if that's because the back-end is optimized for gnome or what09:28
Dr_willistorpor,  you are the first person ive seen thats admited to ubgrading to edgy from MEPIS. :)09:28
kelloguys the thing is like this09:28
kelloin the sun web page09:29
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Digital_PioneerOK, what packages should I reinstall to completely reset everything remotely related to KDE?09:29
JoshJkubuntu-desktop09:29
torporDr_willis: i wish i hadn't! :)09:29
kellothey tell me that i had to use a fake root09:29
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JoshJkubuntu-desktop kdebase kdeadmin09:29
intelikeytorpor maybe because you upgraded accross distros ?09:29
JoshJkello: that's sudo09:29
kelloa fake root??09:29
kellosudo???09:29
JoshJsudo command does the following command as root09:29
JoshJ!sudo09:29
kello?09:29
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.09:29
Dr_willisMepis - is one of those 'interesting' disrtos... heh heh...09:29
fn0rdp0rtlandanyone know of a good torent for a cracked copy of windows?09:29
ikhouvanje_if i run xubuntu on my laptop and than vmwareplayer with ubuntu does i have than sure internet?09:30
torporintelikey: actually -- sorry, i wiped the MEPIS partition clean first, then re-installed edgy on that partition .. i did NOT do a cross-grade..09:30
Dr_williskello,  why not state what you are trying to do exactly....09:30
fn0rdp0rtlandim not going to stop using linux i just want my damn games09:30
Dr_williskello,  not what youve heard/read/are attemptuing to do.. but whats the CORE fundamental thing you are trying to do.09:30
torporso the thing is, why the lag time when needing my password to do admin functions?09:30
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kellocuz i dont speak english to good =)09:30
JoshJfn0rdp0rtland: try going to a place where that's the purpose, because asking for illegal copies of proprietary software in here is not going to work :(09:30
intelikeytorpor just going by what you said "<torpor> just upgraded to kubuntu (edgy) from MEPIS,"09:30
torporintelikey: i dig.09:30
torporand how do i get all the kde tools, like appearance manager and such?  seems not to be installed by default..09:30
Dr_williskello,  if you are wanting to install Java. You dont need to be messing with the SUN web site or other .bin files at all.09:31
intelikeyinstall kde09:31
JoshJtorpor : do apt-get install kubuntu-dekstop kdebase kdeadmin09:31
torporbut i've got kde, no?09:31
intelikeyno09:31
torporermm.09:31
intelikeyyou have kdebase and some of the kde apps09:31
torpori'm running kubuntu.  thats ubuntu uwith KDE.09:31
torporoh, okay09:31
kelloDr_willis, the thing is thgat i need to install that bin file09:31
intelikeyinstall kde   it's a meta package.09:31
kelloDr_willis: how can i do that?09:31
JoshJkello: if you want to install java, do sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin09:32
kelloDr_willis, please tell me09:32
ikhouvanje_what is ubuntu CE?09:32
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JoshJkello: if you want to install java, do sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-plugin    (sorry, forgot the plugin)09:32
Dr_williskello,  we pasted the !java factoid once. :P it details the details.09:32
zorglu_kello: be patient man09:32
Dr_willis!java09:32
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository09:32
kelloJoshJ: the problem is that a want to install a suite09:32
Digital_Pioneerkello: The .bin isn't what you want to install, you want to install its contents.09:32
torporno kdeadmin.. ?wftf?09:32
JoshJoh, you want the jdk thing?09:32
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kellowith netbeans09:32
JoshJadd sun-java5-jdk to that line09:32
fn0rdp0rtlandis there a way to remove the pasword for admin function but leave the login password?09:32
ikhouvanje_take linux mint than you doesn't have to install all that stuff09:32
intelikeyCE generally stands for certified engineer09:32
morghanphoenixquick question. where would I find the guide to upgrade from dapper to edgy?09:33
JoshJ!edgy09:33
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes09:33
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Dr_willis!upgrade09:33
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)09:33
JoshJthere :)09:33
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fn0rdp0rtland!xorg09:33
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:33
morghanphoenixthanks09:33
kelloJoshJ, came again?09:33
kelloJoshJ: please09:33
JoshJkello, load Konsole (or whatever terminal)09:34
intelikeymorghanphoenix be advised that that particular upgrade has caused many problems for many people,  unless you can trubble shoot and repair linux   you might be better off doing a clean install.09:34
kelloJoshJ, and?09:34
morghanphoenixI assume they've got the 3d acceleration issues that kept me from updating earlier ironed out by now.09:34
JoshJsudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-jdk sun-java5-plugin sun-java5-fonts sun-java5-jre09:34
JoshJjdk is the java development kit, jre is the java runtime environment09:35
morghanphoenixI have a seperat partition for everything I need to keep, so if there's a big screw up I'll just do a fresh install09:35
intelikeymorghanphoenix i wouldn't bet on it.09:35
intelikeymorghanphoenix k that sounds like a plan.09:35
torporso do i have to restart kde once i've installed those packages to get the kde themes and stuff?09:35
kelloJoshJ, the thing is 09:35
kelloJoshJ, that i want to instal de update 10 of the java development kit09:36
morghanphoenixOkay, popping out to do the update09:36
morghanphoenixwish me luck09:36
fn0rdp0rtlandhaving problems with konquerer,wont load or half loads pages then says it lost the conecting,yet my conectioin hasent been lost becasue ive beeen on irc the whole time?09:36
fn0rdp0rtlandAn error occurred while loading http://www.google.com/search?q=pirate+bay+windows+cracked+torent&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8:09:36
fn0rdp0rtlandTimeout on server09:36
fn0rdp0rtland Connection was to www.google.com at port 8009:36
JoshJkello: link me to whatever site you're getting that from09:36
kelloJoshJ, and the apt has the update 709:36
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fn0rdp0rtlandAn error occurred while loading http://www.google.com/search?q=pirate+bay+windows+cracked+torent&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8:09:36
fn0rdp0rtlandTimeout on server09:36
fn0rdp0rtland Connection was to www.google.com at port 8009:36
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kelloJoshJ, its the bin file that i have09:37
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JoshJwell, you downloaded it from somewhere, they likely have instructions09:37
ikhouvanje_how do i run wolfenstein3d on kubuntu09:37
JoshJ!wine | ikhouvanje_09:37
ubotuikhouvanje_: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:37
ikhouvanje_ok09:37
kelloJoshJ, from the sun web page09:37
JoshJbleh a direct link would be nice but w/e09:37
kelloJoshJ, and came with no instruction+09:37
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JoshJhttp://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp  <-- is that what you're talking about?09:38
kelloJoshj slow please09:38
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ikhouvanje_oh yes but the problem is that i work with vmware player and than the program says you can't open it with wine because you doens'nt have an operating system:(09:38
kelloJoshJ what is w/e??09:38
Dr_williswolfenstein3d was a DOS game wasent it? dosbox can play it09:38
itch_hello guys. I have a problem. Aftem compileing and and installing a custom kernel (2.6.19), the system hangs at boot time. Any sugestion ?09:38
JoshJw/e is "whatever"09:38
kelloJoshJ and bleh ??09:38
JoshJbleh is just a general expression of frustration, sorry09:39
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kelloJoshJ i had the update 1009:39
kellowoth netbeans 5.509:39
JoshJhttp://www.netbeans.info/downloads/index.php  <-- is this what you mean?09:39
kelloJoshJ with netbeans 5.509:39
kelloJoshJ no no no09:40
kelloJoshJ the bin file had all09:40
JoshJi have no idea.. just try running the bin file from konsole i guess :(09:40
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torporsh somefile.bin09:40
torporgodamn09:40
JoshJabsolutely should come with a readme or have installation instructions on the site :(09:40
ikhouvanje_it doesn't work with dosemulator:(09:41
kelloJoshJ look that is the file name "jdk-1_5_0_10-nb-5_5-linux.bin"09:41
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hermes!kype09:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kype - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:41
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hermes!skype09:41
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto09:41
kelloJoshJ i need to install that file09:41
kelloJoshJ look that is the file name "jdk-1_5_0_10-nb-5_5-linux.bin"09:42
JoshJah, ok kello , there are instructions on the site09:42
JoshJhttp://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/install_jdk1_5_10-nb55_all.html scroll down to where it says linux, they actually have instructions there09:42
kelloJoshJ i love u09:42
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kelloJoshJ such a very good guy09:42
fn0rdp0rtland!netbeans09:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about netbeans - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:43
JoshJi've heard of netbeans, i'm kinda surprised it's not in the repos09:43
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JoshJapt-cache search netbeans got nothing :(09:44
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itch_Hello guys. I have a problem. After compileing and and installing a custom kernel (2.6.19), the system hangs at boot time. Any sugestion, please ?09:44
kelloJoshJ it is why i am asking09:44
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ikhouvanje_is ubuntu the operating system of the future?09:46
ikhouvanje_will windows crash in the future?09:46
JoshJer... it's possibly the desktop distro of the future09:46
Dr_willisikhouvanje_,  ask us in 5 years09:46
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JoshJwindows will go away over time09:46
JoshJit'll just be a slow and painful process >_<09:46
afm\colossusGNU/HURD is the future ;)09:46
Dr_willisThe amazing thing about Predictions of the future... is how many of them are totally wrong.09:46
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JoshJHURD won't "cut it", afm\colossus09:47
itch_Ah common ppl, a little help here, please !09:47
ikhouvanje_but ubuntu is in the future maybe not free anymore than?:(:(09:47
JoshJikhouvanje_ ubuntu has to be free in the future09:47
JoshJlook up the GPL09:47
JoshJanything licensed under the GPL is free for life09:47
JoshJit'd be impossible to make it non-free09:47
ikhouvanje_and the viruses than?09:47
afm\colossusnot if there are only DRMd platforms to run the binaries on09:47
JoshJikhouvanje_: linux is less susceptible to viruses because you don't run as root all the time09:48
JoshJwindows wouldn't get hit by as many viruses if so many people didn't run as administrator- the problem is just that there are a lot of poorly written windows apps that require you to do so :\09:48
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JoshJafm\colossus: presumably if/when windows goes to a more reasonable marketshare the weight of the FOSS community would keep "trusted computing" out09:49
ikhouvanje_i must be off09:49
ikhouvanje_see you09:50
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itch_Hello guys. I have a problem. After compileing and and installing a custom kernel (2.6.19), the system hangs at boot time. Any sugestion, please ?09:52
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afm\colossusitch_: what about stating the exact error-message?09:53
raavi_itch: which .config file do you use?09:54
itch_afm\colossus there is no error message. it just says "uncompressing linux .. " and hangs09:54
voicuok, stupid question but i'm tired and lazy. how do i run emacs? or what exactly do i do with it? i heard it's used as an ide for lisp09:54
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voicualso slime seems to be very popular in the lisp context09:54
itch_raavi_ the one from the 2.6.17  + the settings done in menuconfig09:54
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JoshJemacs is a text editor09:55
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JoshJjust run emacs in a terminal (may have to do apt-get install emacs or gnuemacs first)09:55
raavi_itch_: I had the same problem too, it freezes after populating usb stuff...09:55
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Dheeraj_k_309:55
itch_raavi_ : mine doesen`t get to the USB. just the 1st message : "uncompressing linux"09:56
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itch_raavi_ : and what did you do ?09:56
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sirjinxHi, I have two questions. What is the difference between kubuntu cd version vs the dvd version? And does either of them come with the madwifi driver?09:57
voicuwhoa, i'm really tired... forgot to install emacs09:57
voicuthanks JoshJ09:57
JoshJhaha09:57
fn0rdp0rtland!madwifi09:57
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:57
raavi_itch_: nothing much at that point, I switch back to original and since I have little time to post the error message09:57
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raavi_Did you have a look into the kernel.log09:57
fn0rdp0rtlandi have the dvd,but i dont know what the diff is09:57
itch_raavi_ : lol :) I have looked in unbuntuforums.org.09:58
sirjinxok thanks09:58
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sirjinxI'd hate downloading it to just find out I need to download the drivers and installing them/09:58
raavi_Can you send your .config file, so that I can any diff is there or not...09:58
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JoshJgrr >:[09:58
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JoshJhow do i set my right alt key to function as a freaking right alt key?09:58
fn0rdp0rtlandwhat mad wifi?09:59
fn0rdp0rtlandsirjinx: do you have the cd?09:59
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fn0rdp0rtlandi know the dvd lets you install in either text/oem/or live/boot from first hard disk etc10:00
fn0rdp0rtlandim gussing it has extra repos10:00
itch_raavi_ : what should I look for in kernel.log?10:00
sirjinxI was going to download it now.10:00
sirjinxI remembered trying kubuntu 6.06, but I didn't know it didn't have upstart. And Now I lost the cd for it.10:00
fn0rdp0rtlandsirjinx: whats madwifi?10:00
sirjinxmadwifi would be the drivers for atheros network cards.10:01
JoshJ!atheros10:01
raavi_Generally, there will be a logging about the boot process, if any errors, there will be a log for that too...from that you can debug easily.10:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about atheros - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:01
JoshJ;[10:01
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fn0rdp0rtlandhavroblems with my wifi right now shity,then again im using a coffee can for a antenna10:01
fn0rdp0rtlandhaving problems*10:01
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itch_raavi_ : let me check10:02
JoshJwifi is a constant probelm on linux sadly ;(10:02
ubuntuo/10:02
Dr_willisfn0rdp0rtland,  switch to decaffe its not as jittery10:02
Dr_willis:)10:02
ubuntu;)10:02
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JoshJhaha10:02
Dr_willisWiFi is a Constant problem with everything...10:02
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fn0rdp0rtland!decaffe10:02
ApoChui10:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about decaffe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:02
fn0rdp0rtlandwhats decaffe?10:02
JoshJdecaf, not decaffe10:02
nagyv!3d10:02
JoshJdecaf = decaffinated coffee10:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:02
Dr_willisheh10:02
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fn0rdp0rtlandlol10:02
Dr_willisTripple Espresso!10:03
JoshJwireless just works in windows OEM laptops because they install the driver when you buy the computer :(10:03
JoshJthis is why i wish that someone would take the plunge and put a serious line of linux laptops in the stores- the hardware would obv work right10:03
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itch_raavi_ : how can I know where the boot log begins? I mean, there are logs there from the 1st time i`ve bootet the system.10:03
nagyv!xgl10:03
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems10:03
fn0rdp0rtlandno i lost my laptop screen,now i have to run it thru a monitor,but when i removed my laptop screen i ost my wifi antennea now i use a cantenna10:04
JoshJhaha :(10:04
fn0rdp0rtlandcrazy reception10:04
fn0rdp0rtlandi pick up a 80% signal like 6 blocks away10:04
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fn0rdp0rtlandoh yea my wifi antenna was in my laptop screen left out that little detail10:05
ApoChmmm10:05
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ApoCwhere i can search for my network shares?10:05
ApoCfirst time, that im ubuntu user..;)10:06
ApoCKDE as dektop system10:06
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nagyvhow can I check wheter 3d acceleration is working on my card? (before upgradeing it worked, but I am suspicious)10:06
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raavi_what is your running kernel now.10:07
itch_raavi_ 2.6.17 that came with the install10:07
raavi_okay.10:07
fn0rdp0rtlandwww.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.html for info on cantennas id sugest one for anyone using wireless10:08
Fragrag!midi10:08
ubotuTrouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo10:08
raavi_you will find the logs only for the running kernel...10:08
ApoChmm10:08
fn0rdp0rtland!dvd10:08
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages10:08
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itch_raavi_ : then how can i look for error messages ?10:08
raavi_so, when you reboot to new kernel...and when it hangs....you can reboot the system with live and see what error logs do you have10:08
itch_Ah ..10:09
itch_Got it10:09
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itch_raavi_ : but it hangs so soon, that I thing there`s no time for writeing stuff to the log.10:09
billeritch_: i'm curious what kind of hard drive are you using? SATA? IDE?10:09
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itch_biller : IDE10:10
billeritch_: ah, nm then :)10:10
itch_:P10:10
raavi_itch: you try and see...I hope log will start before it hangs..10:10
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itch_raavi_ sure, I`ll do that. But right now I have to eat & sleep. Tomorrow I have classes and then work. Have to get up early. 10x for the help! :)10:11
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fn0rdp0rtlanditch_: i havent tried that eating or sleeping thing for a while,but thats probly just the coke10:13
raavi_good luck then10:13
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fn0rdp0rtlandwhats the chanell for easy ubuntu?10:19
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Dr_willis!easyubuntu10:20
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu10:20
Dr_willis #easyubuntu10:20
Dr_willisheh10:20
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abaldwinhi10:21
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cloakableIs KDE Look down for anyone?10:21
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Dr_williscloakable,  was down earlier for me10:22
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jeismacan someone help my mount my hard drive from a live cd?10:23
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Dr_willismkdir /media/hda110:23
Dr_willismount /dev/hda1 /media/hda110:23
Dr_willisthere ya go. :)10:23
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KDEfanboyboth KDE look and KDE apps look down10:24
jeismaubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /media/hda110:24
jeismaubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda110:24
jeismamount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist10:24
jeismaubuntu@ubuntu:~$10:24
jeismaDr_willis didn't work10:24
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lascarjeisma: were you root when you tried?10:24
Dr_willisactually it 'produced an error' so it did work. :)10:24
jeismauhh i dunno10:24
Dr_willisit just failed to do what you thought it would do.10:24
jeismai wrote sudo in fron of it10:25
Dr_willisyour hard drive is hda1? or what.10:25
rinanirhi. i need pam_cracklib.so library for password management issues. but it does not exist in my kubuntu. does not it normally have to be under /lib/security directory10:25
cloakablePinging www.kde-look.org gives me 80.190.240.90, but putting that into konqueror instead gives nothing too.10:25
lascarok, so you were10:25
jeismaDr_willis ok so how do i get it to do what i want to do?10:25
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jeismai don't know what my hard drive is, i need help10:25
cloakableI'm going to nmap10:25
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Dr_willis#1 - figure out excactly what you need to do. :P10:25
lascarcloakable: the site is just down10:25
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Dr_willislist the hard drives with10:25
Dr_willissudo fdisk -l10:25
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Dr_willisthen figure out what one you are wanting to mount..   what are you trying to accomplish by this mounting anyway?10:26
jeismaDr_willis10:26
mohammedhow to instll HSF conexnt 56 v92 modem ?10:26
jeismaUsage: fdisk [-l]  [-b SSZ]  [-u]  device10:26
jeismaE.g.: fdisk /dev/hda  (for the first IDE disk)10:26
jeisma  or: fdisk /dev/sdc  (for the third SCSI disk)10:26
jeisma  or: fdisk /dev/eda  (for the first PS/2 ESDI drive)10:26
jeisma  or: fdisk /dev/rd/c0d0  or: fdisk /dev/ida/c0d0  (for RAID devices)10:26
jeismawell i was told if i want to get data from my hard drive10:26
jeismai would need to mount it10:26
jeismacause right now i have a boot disk failure10:26
jeismaand so im on my kubuntu live cd trying to get my data off of it10:26
Dr_willissounds you may have a Hard drive failure...10:26
rinanirhi. i need pam_cracklib.so library for password management issues. but it does not exist in my kubuntu. does not it normally have to be under /lib/security directory . the other pam related library files are there10:26
jeismawhat does that mean?10:26
Dr_willisfdisk -l /dev/hda10:26
Dr_willissee if that shows any info.10:27
rinanirdoes anybody know sthing about pam10:27
jeismaubuntu@ubuntu:~$ Usage: fdisk [-l]  [-b SSZ]  [-u]  device10:27
jeismabash: Usage:: command not found10:27
jeismaubuntu@ubuntu:~$ E.g.: fdisk /dev/hda  (for the first IDE disk)10:27
jeismabash: syntax error near unexpected token `('10:27
jeismaubuntu@ubuntu:~$   or: fdisk /dev/sdc  (for the third SCSI disk)10:27
jeismabash: syntax error near unexpected token `('10:27
jeismaubuntu@ubuntu:~$   or: fdisk /dev/eda  (for the first PS/2 ESDI drive)10:27
jeismabash: syntax error near unexpected token `('10:27
jeismaubuntu@ubuntu:~$   or: fdisk /dev/rd/c0d0  or: fdisk /dev/ida/c0d0  (for RAID devices)10:27
jeismabash: syntax error near unexpected token `('10:27
jeismaubuntu@ubuntu:~$10:27
jeismadon't know what that means10:27
cloakablelascar: Ahh :(10:27
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raavi_jeisma: try fdisk -l /dev/hda10:29
lascarcloakable: i know; it happens.  Just be glad it's not your fault ;)10:29
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Dr_willisnote thats an L in lower case as in list10:29
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jeismaDr_willis ok i did it again but it brought up nothing10:29
jeismaubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l /dev/hda10:30
jeismaubuntu@ubuntu:~$10:30
rinaniri am pretty sure some of you guys know about PAM10:30
Dr_willistry it with a 'sudo' ? its possible that none of you hard drives are being seen... which s a sign of bios issue. or hardware failure10:30
raavi_oops, seems nothing there...10:30
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raavi_jeisma: can you able to see your mounts on live CD10:30
jeismadr_willis how would i fix that?10:30
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jeismai don't know if i'm able to see my mounts on live cd10:31
Dr_willisif the hard drive is dead... its dead...10:31
jeismadoes that mean i can't get anything off of it?10:31
Dr_willistry the 'mount' command.10:31
rinanirhey am i invisible10:31
raavi_jeisma: try once, booting with live CD10:31
abaldwinhey, Im experiencing some confusion with the sound system10:31
vlad_rihi2all :)10:31
jeismai did boot with the live cd, that's what i'm on right now10:31
Dr_willisrinanir,  i know squat about pam... happy now?10:31
raavi_what confusion is that10:31
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raavi_jeisma: can you mount your volumes now.10:32
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jeismahow would i do that?10:32
abaldwinI have sound, all groOvy and happy, but when I log out and log in my daughter, who Ive set up as a user, there is no sound, although the sound system is configured precisely the same10:32
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lascarweird question: I password-protected my thumb drive in XP, and it won't even appear in linux when i plug it in.  Any workaround?10:32
raavi_you become root by: sudo su10:32
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rinanirDr_willis: not happy10:33
lascaradaldwin: mad points for getting your daughter to use linux10:33
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abaldwinrinanir, not invisible...but I know nothing of PAM10:33
raavi_abaldwin, may be you did not add sound for that user.10:33
misaeli need help installing programs in kubuntu10:33
abaldwinoh yeah, this is a LINUX household, my daughter has been using Linux since she was 2 (shes 7 now)10:33
rinanirabaldwin: thanks for response10:33
misaelhow do i access the root user in kubuntu?10:33
lascarabaldwin: awesomeness10:33
abaldwinis that something I need to do from usermgmt? (add sound for the princesa)?10:34
syrcamthere is no real root user10:34
raavi_misael: under live CD or on after installation10:34
misaelafter installation10:34
joheymisael: You use sudo10:34
rinanirmisael: i know that you can only use sudo su -10:34
syrcamdo "sudo" if u want to do root actions10:34
lascarWhat can i use in Kubuntu in place of Microsoft Publisher?10:34
jeismaDr_willis so can i not recover info from a dead hard drive?10:34
raavi_abaldwin: yeah...can you please check that...10:34
misaelhow do i do that10:34
misaelwhat is the sudo command10:34
raavi_misael: try man sudo10:35
joheymisael: You type sudo before the command you like to run with root previlegies.10:35
syrcamgives an command root rights10:35
abaldwinyeah, and Im a little confused about the whole sudo thing ( recently switched to Kubu from Fedora)...I thought only I had sudo, but, when logged in formy daughter, my passowrd does not get sudo access, but hers does10:35
abaldwinhold on checking her user settings for sound10:35
lascar!publisher10:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about publisher - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:35
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lascar!Microsoft10:35
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents10:35
lascar!Microsoft Publisher10:35
misaelwhats the whole code to install some thing in10:36
vlad_riis there in KDE any posibility to change the keyboard layout by a key combination?10:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Microsoft Publisher - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:36
raavi_abaldwin: there is no such root password in kubuntu10:36
robotgeekwhat does this publisher do?10:36
lascarit's an app for desktop publishing10:36
joheyIsn't Publisher some kinda DTP program?10:36
lascarbanners, flyers, etc10:36
raavi_abaldwin: just with normal user password, you can be root by using sudo10:37
lascarjohey: dtp?10:37
abaldwinok, I am not seeing where to configure access to sound in KUser10:37
joheylascar: DTP is, as you said, DeskTop Publishing.10:37
lascarah10:37
misaelwhats the whole command i need to put in the terminal to install something10:37
joheylascar: You might try Scribus.10:37
misaelplease help10:37
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abaldwinI confess, I dont understand thw usefulness of sudo, then.  I thought only I, the owner and administrator of the machine, would have access to sudo, and would be able to access sudo through terminal regardless of who is logged in (like true root)10:38
lascarjohey: can it handle .pub extensions?10:38
joheylascar: I have no idea.10:38
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raavi_abaldwin: it is highly secure with sudo...you dont go as administrator10:38
lascarmisael: sudo apt-get install <app name goes here>10:38
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jeismahow can you tell if your hard drive is dead?10:38
misaelso i pud10:38
raavi_so, possible attacks on your PC is very very less.10:39
voicuabaldwin, only users that are members of the admin group have access to sudo. even so, they need to know the administrators password (the one you typed at install time)10:39
misaelsudo apt-get install /home/misael/amsn.package ????10:39
lascarjeisma: listen to it.  literally10:39
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misaelthats it?10:39
lascarmisael: if the package is a deb, yes10:39
misaelwhats a deb?10:39
joheylascar: I believe, however, Scribus is the most competent free DTP program.10:39
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lascarjohey: ok, i'll give it a shot10:40
joheylascar: Good luck!10:40
lascarty10:40
lascarand while i'm at it, johey...10:40
lascarwhat do you know of USB audio?10:40
abaldwinok, perhaps i found it...I added audio to her groups,..hmmm, but she is not in the sudo group, so why does her password give sudo access?10:41
raavi_abaldwin: double click on user,10:41
joheylascar: Not very much.10:41
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abaldwinhuh, but when I was logged in under my daughters name, I could not get sudo by using my (admin) password, but only by using her password10:41
lascardamn10:42
lascareveryone,10:42
lascarALSA is screwing me over10:42
voicuabaldwin, it shouldn't. that can only mean her user was created first (at install) and is the main admin :P10:42
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misaelit tells me10:42
misaelthat10:42
misaelcouldnt find package10:43
wildfire_Is there, a problem with Kubuntu, and Banshee or something anyone... Getting hangup on sound initilization of banshee.10:43
abaldwinno, my user was created first, the admin, and hers was created after...doesnt make sense to me, and she isNOT in the admin or sudo group, either10:43
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joheymisael: What package are you trying to install?10:43
misaelfirefox10:43
misael2.010:43
wildfire_banshee 0.11.210:43
misaelits10:43
misaelin my desktop10:43
wildfire_lol10:43
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fn0rdp0rtland!easyubuntu10:44
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu10:44
joheymisael: You should use the package delivered by the system. sudo apt-get install firefox10:44
misaelok10:44
abaldwinoddly, I am in the admin group, but not the sudo group, now that Im taking a look at that10:44
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abaldwinnor am I in the sound or audio group, but I have sound10:44
JoshJok, katapult is cool10:45
JoshJdiscovered THAT by sheer accident10:45
PhazzerAnyone willing to help a nub?10:45
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wildfire_anyone =( please enlighten me.. with your all knowingness..10:45
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lascari've been trying to get my headset to work in Kubuntu10:45
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lascarit uses a usb adapter10:45
lascarcan someone help me?10:45
lascarJoshJ: what do you know about katapult10:46
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wildfire_hmm, i what headset ?10:46
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lascarit seems so useless to me10:46
JoshJhit alt-space and it lets you type in the name of a program to run it10:46
joheylascar: lsusb10:46
lascarwildfire_: cyber acoustics10:46
lascarjohey: it shows up alright10:46
joheylascar: What are the numbers?10:47
lascarhey, so does my thumb drive!10:47
cyber_brain_mfkgsomeone siad cyber???10:47
joheylascar: The xxxx:xxxx10:47
cyber_brain_mfkg*said10:47
lascarjohey: 0d8c:000c10:47
lascaryeah, cyber acoustics10:47
lascarit has the original mono plugs, but plugs in system through a usb adapter10:48
raavi__abaldwin: can you get the sound now or...10:48
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abaldwinwell, Ill have to log out and log her in, be right back10:48
Dheeraj_k__!apache10:48
ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.10:48
misaelwhat is the command to install amsn if its located at home/misael/10:48
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ZarephathAnyone know where to download planeshifter? I just read about it in Tux Mag...however my googles don't seem to be working out..10:49
wildfire_Nobody, is having trouble with Banshee on latest Xubuntu? caush i have no clue why it doesnt want to startup without hanging in sound initlization.. I tries 0.11.1 and 0.11.2.. same issue. Is there something i should know.. or try.10:49
joheylascar: I don't know, but those numbers are great to use when googling about the problem.10:49
misaelwhat is the command to install amsn if its located at home/misael/10:49
misaelwhat is the command to install amsn if its located at home/misael/10:49
raavi__misael: amsn is deb package or source files or bin file10:49
misaelwhat is the command to install amsn if its located at home/misael/10:49
misaelwhat is the command to install amsn if its located at home/misael/10:49
coreymon77misael: get it from apt- sudo apt-get install amsn10:49
misaeli dont know10:49
misaelits just10:49
misaela10:49
misaelamsn.package10:49
jeismalascar: listen to what literally?10:49
coreymon77misael: !patience10:49
lascarwhy use katapult when there's a run command already in existence?10:49
misaelsorry10:49
lascarjeisma: the hard drive itself10:49
BluesKajHowdy , I keep trying to run install.sh as root , but it's not working...any suggestions ?10:49
lascarremove the case and listen to it10:49
jeismashould i hear it spinning?10:50
lascarjeisma: indeed.10:50
raavi__misael:  check that out with ls -l command10:50
coreymon77misael: type this into konsole, sudo apt-get install amsn10:50
ZarephathBluesKaj, : are you adding a ./ in front of it? If it isn't in the path it won't run10:50
jeismalascar: at what point will it be spinning? can i press something or should it be spinning right now?10:50
lascarjeisma: also, ground yourself and touch it.  Hopefully, there should feel whirring.10:50
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lascarit should be spinning now10:51
lascarbut just to be sure, jeisma, reboot and check10:51
wildfire_O well.. If nobody knows.. What other media player that doesnt stray to far from gnome should I try.. that will use the dirty codecs.10:51
jeismaok10:51
lascarjohey: ok, thanx10:51
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misaelit gives me an error10:52
coreymon77wildfire_: if you want gnome, why are you using kubuntu?10:52
jeismalascar: there's no way to check without having to listen to it?10:52
mc__wildfire_: have ya tried mplayer?10:52
wildfire_im using xubuntu10:52
coreymon77misael: what error?10:52
wildfire_ohh lol10:52
LinXwayI have a question on setting up printers I have a HP all in one and when I goto the printer add and click on the hp list it only shows 4 printers all of which are laser printers...when I was useing gnome desktop It listed every hp printer to select from and I am kinda at a loss as to why kde doesnt show all the hp printers like gnome does...so if some one can help out here because I am at a loss on this...10:52
jeismalascar: right now i heard a soft humming10:52
wildfire_damn wrong channel.10:52
raavi__wildfire: it does not depend on players, but only codecs10:52
wildfire_Looks around..10:52
jeismalascar: but couldn't that be the live cd spinning?10:53
lascarjeisma: not that i know of under kubuntu10:53
raavi__wildfire: I prefer players comes with KDE,10:53
coreymon77misael: whats the error?10:53
misaelunable to lock the administration directory10:53
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lascarjeisma: feel the whole drive10:53
misaelis another process using it?10:53
misaelthat's what it sais10:53
misaelsays10:53
coreymon77misael:  do you have adept open?10:54
raavi__misael: are you opening the adept window or10:54
wildfire_let me terrorize the Xubutu channel for abit.. =P10:54
jeisma#ubuntu10:54
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lascarLinXway: what?  what's your model?10:54
misaelthe only thing i got open right know its the chat and terminal10:54
coreymon77did you remember to use sudo?10:54
raavi__misael: are you root now,10:54
LinXwayhp t65 and 7310 series10:55
misaeli guess10:55
misaelis the only account10:55
misaelin the computer10:55
lascarLinXway: and you have cups installed right?10:55
raavi__misael: open konsole, type sudo apt-get install amsn10:55
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LinXwayyes10:55
coreymon77the sudo is very important10:55
misaelE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)10:55
misaelE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?10:55
misaelsame thing10:56
raavi__misael: close all konsole window10:56
coreymon77well then you have adept, adept-updater or another apt process running10:56
misaeldone10:56
misaelknow what10:56
coreymon77open konsole10:56
misaelok10:56
misaelalredy did10:56
raavi__misael: close all update manager on you system tray.10:56
coreymon77and type exactly this10:56
misaelhold on10:57
coreymon77raavi__:update manager wont cause problems unless its actually open and running10:57
fn0rdp0rtlandwhy does pasteing too much stuff mess up irc?10:57
coreymon77misael: type sudo apt-get install amsn10:57
lascarLinXway: go to peripherals, then printers, select the "add printer" module10:57
misaelok10:57
raavi__coreymon77: yeah for sure, but his error message says something like that10:57
lascarhit hp and scroll WAY DOWN10:57
lascaryou'll find the officejet t65, LinXway10:58
LinXwayI have done that10:58
misaelsame error10:58
raavi__misael: are you updating your system right now or...10:58
lascarLinXway: you selected the "t65 hpijs?"10:58
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misaelno am not10:59
coreymon77well then10:59
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visik7kdebluetooth on edgy is broken !!!10:59
misaelhold on i'll be back10:59
coreymon77my last resort suggestion would be to restart x10:59
coreymon77with ctl+alt+bkspc10:59
coreymon77that should help it11:00
coreymon77i dont know any other solution11:00
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coreymon77fn0rdp0rtland: its called flood protection11:01
raavi__coreymon77: I cant belive that :)11:01
coreymon77what?11:02
LinXwaymabye I am missing something here but where is  peripherals located at in the kde destop11:02
raavi__the error message, he is getting while installing11:02
coreymon77i just told him to ctrl+alt+backspace it11:02
Chris7masopen kcontrol and go to Peripherals :)11:02
coreymon77raavi__: if that doesnt help, i give up11:03
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coreymon77raavi__: btw, whats with the __ after your name?11:03
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raavi__coreymon77: nothing special.... :)11:04
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fn0rdp0rtlandthe __ means someone  else has his same name,irc puts the __ there to differnetate inbetween the diffrent people witht hte same name11:04
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LinXwayok that brings up the same printer wiizard that I get under the system setting window11:05
fn0rdp0rtlandlike if i signed on to irq right now under coreymon77 i would be coreymon77_11:05
ubuntu__dpkg: status database area is locked by another process11:05
ubuntu__how do i fix that?11:05
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coreymon77fn0rdp0rtland: i know that, but i checked, there was nobody who had the name raavi11:05
lascarlinxway: so continue11:05
fangorioushow do I get konsole to start a login shell?11:06
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fdovingfangorious: from the commandline? 'konsole --ls'11:06
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raavicoreymon77: I had raavi_ before, after that my connection went down for a while so IRC put me to __11:06
fn0rdp0rtlandim having the same problem as ubuntu___ with teh status area locked11:06
LinXwayI jst get the same 4 printers listed11:06
jeismadpkg: status database area is locked by another process11:07
jeismahow do i fix that?11:07
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lascarso pick one and continue to driver selection11:07
fdoving!adept crash fix | jeisma11:07
ubotujeisma: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'11:07
raavicoreymon77: Gives, no possibility for a bug.11:07
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fangoriousfdoving: thanks11:07
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fangorioushow do i get knetworkmanager to start on login?11:08
ebivenIs there an easy way to get a Debian standard package to install in Kubuntu?  Ubuntu has been slow to update the KPilot package.11:08
lascarebiven: yep11:08
fdovingfangorious: leave it running when you logout.11:08
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lascarebiven: use the dpgk command: sudo dpkg --install <deb package>11:08
fn0rdp0rtlandubotu: thanx i needed that too you lovly robot11:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thanx i needed that too you lovly robot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:08
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lascarlol11:09
ebivenlascar: Did that, it gives me dependency errors on the same packages except with -ubuntu on the end.11:09
LjLebiven, lascar: in theory, that can work. but be aware that it may not work (you don't necessarily have the right versions of libraries/stuff), and it *might break things* as well. in general, installing Debian packages is not recommended and not supported11:09
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coreymon77fn0rdp0rtland: btw, no you wouldnt, i own coreymon77_ aswell11:09
fdovingebiven: you can get the kpilot fix from http://ubuntu.lnix.net/edgy/updates/kdepim-proposed/11:09
lascarLjl: indeed11:09
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ebivenfdoving: You are THE MAN.11:09
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ebivenfdoving: Is there some way to make that easier to find or am I just such a noob that I didn't know to look there while everyone else did?11:10
fdovingebiven: i'd like feedback, especially if they work.11:10
fn0rdp0rtlandcoreymon77:  i was just using your name as an example that irc would continue to add _ to the end of a name untill it found one11:10
lascaris anyone else getting timeouts with archive.ubuntu.com?11:11
fdovingebiven: no, the packages are ment for edgy-updates, it just takes so much time to get them there.. it's a somewhat long process.11:11
ebivenfdoving: Where do you want the feedback sent?  It's the least I can do.11:11
larson9999lascar: funny you should mention that.  i am right now11:11
fdovingebiven: comments to https://launchpad.net/bugs/66313 would be great.11:11
lascarlarson9999: ah, so it's not me11:12
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lbulbpeople, the dcc is not working.11:13
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lascarfunny thing is my headset runs PERFECTLY under skype11:14
ebivenfdoving: Will I need to update the rest of the KDEPIM packages, or is KPilot enough?11:14
lascardetection and all11:14
larson9999lascar: i just changed to eu. instead of us.11:14
lascarlarson9999: and it works?11:14
larson9999yeah11:14
fangoriousis there an amarok-gstreamer engine? amarok doesn't seem to be recognizing any of my m4a files (rhythmbox/banshee/totem have no problem)11:14
lascarfangorious: did you buy them off of itunes?11:15
fdovingebiven: try just kpilot first, if it doesn't work, try the rest. I don't have a palm, i just made the packages with the debian patch.11:15
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fangoriouslascar: nope11:15
fn0rdp0rtlandprocess table wont let kill some procesess any idea?11:15
TheGateKeeperflash7 --> 9 upgrade & in dapper too nice11:15
fangoriouslascar: those are m4p files11:15
fangoriouslascar: i ripped plain unencrypter AAC files in itunes11:15
lascarfangorious: then there shouldn't be a problem...11:16
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fangoriouslascar: that's what I thought, but after specifying the folder with all my files in the Build Collection dialog, it doesn't find any tracks11:18
lascaris the recursive box checked?11:18
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fangoriouslascar: yeah11:19
robotgeekfangorious: you might need the mp3 codecs before it scans11:19
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jeismaI went to my Storage Media folder >> to my Remote Share (unionfs) >> and there were files. Is this my hard drive?11:19
larson9999lascar: works but slow11:19
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jeismaanyone know?11:20
jeismaI went to my Storage Media folder >> to my Remote Share (unionfs) >> and there were files. Is this my hard drive?11:20
robotgeek!repeat11:20
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience11:20
lbulbunix_infidel: how can i get the dcc running? it's enabled but won't accept files from users11:20
jeisma!repeat11:20
jeismaawww11:20
jeismaso nobody knows?11:20
robotgeekjeisma: please be patient, if someone knows, someone will answer11:21
jeismaheard you the first time11:21
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lascarjeisma: do you know the path to your drive?11:21
fangoriousrobotgeek: you have any more info on that? (i'm not using mp3 files btw, am using AAC files)11:21
jeismano11:21
robotgeek!codecs > fangorious11:21
robotgeekfangorious: that page might have the info required, i dont know offhand11:22
jeismalascar: do you know how to fix a boot disk failure?11:22
lascarnope11:22
jeismaok well can you help me play streaming video on my live cd?11:22
fn0rdp0rtlandwhy dont 3d games work with linux?its the lack of directX right?why cant someone program directX lke thing for linux?11:22
jeismai got the windows codecs11:22
jeismaand i'm trying to get the totem-xine-firefox-plugins11:22
Dr_willisfn0rdp0rtland,  go research wine and cedega11:22
jeismabut they don't show up in my adept?11:22
lascarthere is, you using cedega, fn0rdp0rtland11:23
lascarhmm...11:23
ebivenfdoving: Just the KPilot package was enough, my Treo 650 now syncs up perfectly.11:23
ebivenThanks a ton.11:23
TheGateKeeperjeisma: has your hdd died?11:23
jeismaTheGateKeeper: i don't know yet11:23
fn0rdp0rtlandDr_willis:  thanx what are you a doctor of?11:23
fdovingebiven: great. thanks for testing. did you comment on the bug in launchpad?11:23
Dr_willisfn0rdp0rtland,  and there are 3d games out for linux. the quake games, rtcw:et, savage 1 and 2, several of the Unreal Torueyments,  Never WInters Nights.11:23
lascarjeisma: i prefer mplayer11:23
lascarbut at any rate11:23
Dr_willisfn0rdp0rtland,  im a Dr of Love!11:23
jeismamplayer?11:23
ebivenDoing that now11:23
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lascarlaunch synaptic, jeisma11:23
fn0rdp0rtlandany in the repos?11:24
lascaror install it if you haven't already11:24
fangoriousrobotgeek: I already have al those gstreamer-plugins packages installed. I can play my files with any gstreamer app. I just need amarok to use gstreamer11:24
robotgeeklol, i was waiting for some crazy reply Dr_willis11:24
TheGateKeeperjeisma: so exactly what is the problem?11:24
fdovingebiven: great, thanks :)11:24
jeismalascar: well will that help play flash videos as well?11:24
robotgeekfangorious: then select the gstreamer engine in amarok11:24
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Dr_willisThere is a Ubuntu-games web site i recall11:24
jeismaTheGateKeeper: my computer starts up and it stats Boot Disk Failure, please put in boot disk and press enter11:24
lascarno jeisma, you'll need flash for that ;)11:24
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fangoriousrobotgeek: all i have is xine, arts, and and "<no engine>"11:25
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jeismalascar: ok so how do i get totem-xine-firefox-plugins cause that helped me play flash last time11:25
fn0rdp0rtlandum my computer just said  "cannot talk to klauncher"11:25
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robotgeekfangorious: you might need to install it then11:25
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TheGateKeeperjeisma: ok are you sure that the bios is trying to boot from the hdd?11:25
fn0rdp0rtlandhow do i restart it?11:25
lascarsudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla11:25
fangoriousrobotgeek: can you tell me the package name11:25
fangoriousrobotgeek: i have amarok-* installed already11:26
jeismaTheGateKeeper: well first in line is my floppy, then cd, then hard drive11:26
lascarjeisma: that'll get you flash support for firefox11:26
Dr_willishmm...11:26
fn0rdp0rtland!cedega11:26
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega11:26
Dr_willisdf -h | lpr11:26
Dr_willislpr: Error - no default destination available.11:26
LinXwaycan any one point me too a tutorial or a howto on printer setup in kubuntu...11:26
jeismalascar what will? the totem?11:26
Dr_willisok.. how do ya set a default.. :) heh heh11:26
robotgeekfangorious: edgy/dapper?11:26
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jeismalascar so what will get it for me for konqueror?11:26
lascarjeisma: sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla11:26
TheGateKeeperjeisma: and the floppy & cd are empty?11:26
fangoriousrobotgeek: dapper11:26
mc__LinXway: look at wiki.ubuntu.com ,and searhc for Printer11:26
Dheeraj_k_.11:26
jeismaTheGateKeeper: yes11:26
LinXwayI did that it doesnt solve my problm11:27
lascarjeisma: good question; i'm kinda fuzzy on that.  I believe a manual dl and install was necessary for that11:27
TheGateKeeperjeisma: and you are sure that the bios has not lost it's settings?11:27
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BluesKajflash for mozilla plugin needs to have it's own dir , not the flashdir ..otherwise FF & mozilla won't play flash11:27
lbulbmc__: how do i fix the dcc in Konversation11:28
jeismaTheGateKeeper well what would i check to see if it has not lost its settings?11:28
jeismalascar: i did that sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla and it couldn't find the package11:28
lbulbmc__: it's enabled in the onfigure options but i cn't accept any files11:29
lascar?11:29
lascarjeisma: are your repositories updated?11:29
mc__lbulb: dont know sorry,maybe some ports are blocked11:29
fangorioushm .... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-160500.html11:29
jeismalascar: i just updated them11:29
coreymon77funny11:29
jeismalascar: so they should be up to date11:29
TheGateKeeperjeisma: well if you go into the bios & everything seems normal you should be ok11:29
coreymon77maybe we scared that amsn person away11:29
robotgeekfangorious: hmm, i think dapper kubuntu does not have a package for it, sorry11:29
jeismaTheGateKeeper everything looked fine. the time was off11:29
BluesKaj!mozilla flash plugin11:29
ubotumozilla: The Mozilla Internet application suite - meta package. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.7.13-0.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB11:29
lascarjeisma: perhaps you misspelled it?11:30
fangoriousrobotgeek: yeah, just found that forum link11:30
lbulbmc__: i it a setting on my comp or it's controlled from the network?11:30
lbulb*is11:30
jeismalascar: i copied and pasted11:30
TheGateKeeperjeisma: if you want to test your hard disk use badblocks11:30
coreymon77he said hed be right back and that was 30 minutes ago11:30
lascarthen perhaps i misspelled?  :-)11:30
jeismaTheGateKeeper: how would i do that?11:30
TheGateKeeper!grub > jeisma11:30
jeismalascar: ha hey jk, it's not updated i'm updating for sure this time11:30
robotgeekfangorious: cool11:30
fn0rdp0rtlandhow do i restart klauncher11:30
jeismaTheGateKeeper what is that?11:30
fangoriousrobotgeek: thanks for looking though11:31
TheGateKeeperjeisma: run badblocks from the command line from a live cd11:31
fn0rdp0rtlandany know how to restart Klauncher?11:31
jeismaTheGateKeeper where would that be in the links you gave me?11:31
TheGateKeeperjeisma: also read the PM how to reinstall grub11:31
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mc__lbulb: its controlled from the router11:31
lascarso is it safe to say that nobody here knows anything about headsets and Kubuntu?11:31
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fn0rdp0rtland!klauncher11:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about klauncher - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:32
jeismaTheGateKeeper: what's grub?11:32
lascargrub = partition manager11:32
lascarlike lilo11:32
fangoriousjeisma: the boot loader, where you pick what kernel/os you want to boot11:32
TheGateKeeperjeisma: grub is the linux boot loader11:32
wordis wine down?11:32
lascar!headset11:33
wordas in..winehq.org11:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about headset - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:33
lascar!usb audio11:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:33
TheGateKeeperjeisma: if you use an IDE hdd you can check it with badblock -v /dev/hda  <-- or whatever it is called11:34
lascar!alsa11:34
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin11:34
lascar!oss11:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about oss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:34
TheGateKeeperjeisma: oops I meant badblocks -v /dev/hda  <-- or whatever it is called11:34
lascar!dsp11:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dsp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:34
lascar!/dev/dsp11:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dev/dsp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:34
LjL!botabuse11:34
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)11:34
LjL!bot11:34
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:34
lascari'm not abusing11:35
lascarthose are all serious queries11:35
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LjLlascar: no, randomly trying factoids until you find ones that work is abusing the bot11:36
jeismaTheGateKeeper: what do i type in the terminal to use badblocks exactly?11:36
LjLread the wiki and learn how you can search for factoids instead11:36
lascaroh11:36
eloquence_sup everybody11:36
LjLor, if you really want to just keep guessing, do it in a private query with the bot, don't flood the channel11:36
lascarmy apologies, should've known better11:36
LjLit's ok11:37
eloquence_can somebody help me with what this website tells me I have to do to install my wireless driver:11:37
eloquence_In order to be able to compile the driver you will need to have the the kernel headers and source and the development tools and libraries installed.11:37
eloquence_http://cepes.org.pe/jaime/dv8000t.html11:37
lascardo you really need to compile?11:37
lascarwhat's your chipset?11:37
BluesKajhas anyone tackled the Mythtv, and all it's optional utilities, installation procedure ?11:37
eloquence_this guy has my same laptop but is using fedora ... i am on kubuntu 6.06 ...11:37
eloquence_Linux version 2.6.15-26-38611:38
lascar(i hate edgy; remind me to NEVER go beta again)11:38
wordBluesKaj: yes..11:38
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BluesKajword, do you have it working ?11:39
wordalmost11:39
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TheGateKeeperjeisma: well like I said if you have an ide drive called hda  then it would be badblocks -v /dev/hda11:39
wordone of the 3 installs i have setup is giving me grief11:39
BluesKajword, define almost :)11:39
eloquence_anybody know wher ei can go to read up on installing the headers and that other stuff?11:39
eloquence_This guy had the same problem I have right now: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/61647-installing-ieee80211-file-missing.html11:40
wordBluesKaj: just that...3 setups 2 work fine one doesnt11:40
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TheGateKeeperjeisma: if you are using sata then I think it would be badblocks -v /dev/sda11:40
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BluesKajword, is there a procedure or description of the install steps available somewhere ? I've been told that configuring Mythtv is quite a task .11:41
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wordBluesKaj: i think ubuntu's wiki finally has an adequate tutorial11:42
lascar!mythtv11:42
ubotuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV11:42
cloakableBluesKaj: Not on Edgy. Edgy had the latest version available11:42
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lascaroh wow, and i was actually considering buying a tuner card...11:42
BluesKajcloakable, ?11:42
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lascareloquence_: what chipset is your wireless card?11:43
BluesKajTVtime works ok  with my ATI TV Wonder pro in video but there is no audio11:44
cloakableBluesKaj: MythTV version 0.20 is on Edgy. Latest version, looks pretty easy to setup - just apt-get it11:44
purpleposeidonHow can I use a different mirror w/ apt-get?11:45
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purpleposeidonjust for temporary11:45
lascarpurpleposeidon: edit your sources.list file to reflect the mirror of your choice11:45
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lascarand i'm out11:51
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h3sp4wnpurpleposeidon: what mirror do you usually use ?11:51
milaksHi. While in slackware it works perfectly, in Kubuntu when I try to debug some simple c++ program in Eclipse I get:  No registers, Stopped due to shared library event, Stopped due to shared library event. Does anyone know how to solve this please (and yes, I've been in #eclipse channel but it seems noone is alive there)?11:51
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max__can someone give me the link to the alternate instalitions for kubuntu11:53
eloquence_lascar sorry i was away11:54
eloquence_my wireless card is an intel ipw394511:54
unix_infidelmax__: alternate?11:54
max__!install11:54
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues11:54
snowiceis there a repository for the latest version of clamav?11:54
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alfmatoshi, i came across a bug on lunchpad, wich turned out to be KDE only, related... What is the appropriate action, to subscribe the Kubuntu team to the bug ?11:56
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LjLalfmatos: try asking on #ubuntu-bugs perhaps11:58
alfmatosLjL, thanks will do11:58
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eloquence_is there anything complicated to installing the kernel headers and source and the development tools and libraries?12:00
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fn0rdp0rtlandhate my computer12:01
h3sp4wneloquence_: aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`12:01
h3sp4wneloquence_: kernel-headers-`uname -r` (for sarge)12:01
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eloquence_?12:02
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eloquence_type those into console?12:02
eloquence_thats it?12:02
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h3sp4wneloquence_: the first one12:03
h3sp4wneloquence_: sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`12:03
joe_Hey anyone, shortly after changing samba settings so I could share w my widows computer,  my router is blank when I try to access it.12:03
eloquence_ok12:03
BluesKajanyone have a TV Wonder Pro working on Edgy withiut a seperate audio feed from the source ?12:04
joe_does this sound like a security breach?12:04
eloquence_that's it?12:04
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fn0rdp0rtlandwould a metal computer desk that my laptop sits on interfere with a wifi card?12:04
eloquence_and source and the development tools and libraries?12:04
unix_infidelfn0rdp0rtland: not enough no.12:04
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eloquence_is there a 10,000 volt current running thru the metal desk?12:05
joe_should I reset the router?12:05
flaccid_fn0rdp0rtland: its possible12:05
bubu1ukwhat's the command to unlock package database? adept crashed.12:05
h3sp4wnbubu1uk: /msg ubotu adept crash fix12:05
unix_infidelfn0rdp0rtland: only way is if the wireless router was beneath you.12:05
flaccid_its still possible12:06
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fn0rdp0rtlandi just keep getting kicked offline every couple minutes12:06
eloquence_h3sp4wn:  what bout the source and the development tools and libraries?12:06
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h3sp4wnfn0rdp0rtland: It can affect it try leaving too many empty can's around a router you are trying to use12:06
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fn0rdp0rtlandive been having the same problem with a cantenna too12:07
unix_infidelfn0rdp0rtland: are you getting kicked offline the net or the internal network.12:07
fn0rdp0rtlandthiink il just move my computer12:07
bubu1ukh3sp4wn: thanx12:07
eloquence_good question unix_infidel12:07
fn0rdp0rtlandwhats the diffrence?12:07
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h3sp4wneloquence_: source is linux-source-2.6.17 development tools is too vague for me to answer12:07
unix_infidelfn0rdp0rtland: if you are kicked off the external network it can be a whole buncha things.12:08
fn0rdp0rtlandunix_infidel: how do i tell?12:08
unix_infidelfn0rdp0rtland: if you can still ping the wireless router that means there's nothing wrong with your "wireless connection"12:08
eloquence_ok h3sp4wn12:08
unix_infidelat the same time, your wireless router can be overloaded by your external internet connection.12:08
fn0rdp0rtlandunix_infidel:  how would i find the ip for the router?12:08
flaccid_unless you have packet loss12:08
eloquence_i can just select both the headers and the source from adept right?12:08
fn0rdp0rtlandi dont even know whos router im on12:08
eloquence_lo fn0rdp0rtland12:09
eloquence_maybe u r like using sum1 elses12:09
unix_infidelfn0rdp0rtland: just try moving the computer12:09
eloquence_and they are tryin to get u off12:09
snowicenever mind, seems that klamav can take care of that12:09
fn0rdp0rtlandeven if they think they have password protection?would they even bother to look?i dont use much bandwith12:10
eloquence_lol12:10
eloquence_all this time u been piggie backing12:10
eloquence_u oompa loompa!12:10
fn0rdp0rtlandbut i get 90-100% signal strength constently12:11
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fn0rdp0rtlandshouldent be kicking me off,i dont know give me a minute to move my box12:11
helgeI have this file: ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run , anyone knows how to make the file "run"?12:11
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h3sp4wnhelge: I wouldn't recommend running that manually12:12
helgeOh?12:12
alvinhi ppl12:12
h3sp4wnhelge: http://www.kanotix.com/files/install-fglrx-debian.sh12:12
alvinanyone here from sd ca?12:13
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h3sp4wnhelge: Use that it makes deb's and does the job in a cleaner way12:13
h3sp4wnhelge: wget http://www.kanotix.com/files/install-fglrx-debian.sh12:13

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