[12:13] <FlameMaster> hey guys, I recently dled kubuntu edgy amd64, and I'm running it live ATM. I was about to install it, but I'd rather not do the live install. Doesn't this have an alternate installer that doesn't need to boot a live desktop first?
[12:13] <eloquence_> so i just click on it and it will install it?
[12:13] <eloquence_> how about rpm's?
[12:13] <robotgeek> !alien
[12:13] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[12:13] <angasule> flaccid: I right click on the icon, and click on 'eject', or use the command line 'eject cdrom', it says it's busy, lsof says konqueror is using it
[12:13] <ColonelPanic001> DaSkreech: no ideas? It seems odd, because except for writing, it seems to be working great, out of the box.
[12:13] <flaccid> eloquence_: if the file is +x it will run. rpms are possible but not recommended
[12:14] <angasule> flaccid: except konqueror *was* using it, but it no longer is
[12:14] <eloquence_> ok cool
[12:14] <red22> i have a radeon x1950pro and can't seem to get the video drivers going on edgy.. anyone with x1900 or x1950 get their drivers working pls?
[12:14] <robotgeek> angasule: heh, remind konqueror :)
[12:14] <flaccid> angasule: yeah sounds normal to me, but yeah its a bug
[12:15] <Joel-Wideman> It is easier to install software by compiling the source than using alien, in my experience
[12:15] <angasule> flaccid: about half my LUG has experienced this bug
[12:15] <DaSkreech> FlameMaster: Yes. It's called the alternate Cd
[12:15] <FlameMaster> DaSkreech: I have the DVD distro
[12:15] <flaccid> angasule: did any of you report the bug?
[12:15] <Croupier> hey guys in darts the inside circle is the triple or the outside?
[12:15] <ColonelPanic001> outside
[12:15] <BetaCookies> [brb]  restarting X
[12:16] <FlameMaster> DaSkreech: don't tell me that the DVD release doesn't have an alternate install just as the alternate cd version
[12:16] <DaSkreech> Croupier: Outside
[12:16] <ColonelPanic001> inside loop is double
[12:16] <angasule> flaccid: I'm looking at the database to see if it has been filed, but it must have been, since it was in dapper already
[12:16] <DaSkreech> FlameMaster: Ok I won't :)
[12:16] <FlameMaster> DaSkreech: It doesn't?!
[12:16] <FlameMaster> :(
[12:16] <Joel-Wideman> later
[12:16] <angasule> flaccid: would it be a konqueror bug?
[12:16] <flaccid> angasule: well if the bug is reported, you are still expecting people here to present you with a fix even though we are not the developers..
[12:16] <FlameMaster> does it?
[12:17] <flaccid> angasule: i don't know what bug it would be
[12:17] <angasule> flaccid: I'm unsure if it has been reported, I can't find a similar bug report
[12:17] <DaSkreech> word: to your mother
[12:17] <flaccid> angasule: cdrom lock is all too common on *nix
[12:17] <Croupier> are you sure that the inside is double
[12:17] <ColonelPanic001> Alright, well thanks for trying. I'll just kind of poke at my card reader and see what it does.
[12:17] <robotgeek> Croupier: i would suggest google
[12:17] <DaSkreech> FlameMaster: as far as I know it doesn't. I could be worng though
[12:17] <Croupier> so the outer (big ring) is the triple
[12:17] <DaSkreech> ColonelPanic001: did you ask in #ubuntu?
[12:18] <DaSkreech> Croupier: yes
[12:18] <ColonelPanic001> No, but not a bad idea.
[12:18] <flaccid> angasule: is the cdrom still mounted ie. comes up in mount ?
[12:18] <FlameMaster> DaSkreech: whatever I'm already googling about it :(
[12:18] <angasule> flaccid: this bug is unacceptable, konqueror should have freed it once it was no longer in use
[12:18] <angasule> flaccid: yes
[12:18] <flaccid> angasule: then what is an acceptable bug in the open source world?
[12:18] <robotgeek> angasule: sure, its a bug. we have given you a worksaround
[12:18] <angasule> flaccid: closing konqueror releases the cdrom
[12:18] <flaccid> angasule: then do a lazy unmount of the cdrom drive
[12:18] <eloquence_> are there any KDE msn messenger type programs which _allow you to send messages to mobile users and will show mobile users_ ?
[12:18] <robotgeek> angasule: please file a bug. there's not much we can do about it
[12:18] <jerrold> is kxdocker apt-getable? last time i tried..it wouldnt run :(
[12:18] <flaccid> angasule: if no other programs are locking the drive, then report it as a konqueror bug
[12:19] <angasule> robotgeek: I mean it's unacceptable that it got from dapper to edgy
[12:19] <angasule> I'm collecting data, I just ejected the CD and going to reproduce it
[12:19] <robotgeek> angasule: regression bugs happen.
[12:19] <flaccid> angasule: then wait for the bug to be confirmed and addressed.
[12:19] <intelikey> i'm getting so that i don't like konqueror any more.
[12:19] <robotgeek> angasule: i hate it as much as you do, but it exists. and it will go away if you file your bug (hopefully)
[12:19] <flaccid> angasule: unacceptable in your opinion
[12:20] <ColonelPanic001> Unacceptable. flaccid, I demand you fix that bug personally.
[12:20] <ColonelPanic001> o.o
[12:20] <intelikey> they keep adding more and more "P me off" code to it...  should have left well enough alone, but insted they keep trying to make it a little weller
[12:20] <robotgeek> intelikey: heh
[12:20] <flaccid> hehe
[12:21] <DaSkreech> eloquence_: try amsn
[12:21] <ColonelPanic001> Hurry up. I expect a patch in three hours.
[12:21] <flaccid> there were lots of bugs that went from dapper to edgy
[12:21] <DaSkreech> It helps to keep you on edge
[12:22] <angasule> flaccid: unacceptable as in "my parents can't use edgy in this state" :(
[12:22] <ColonelPanic001> heh
[12:22] <flaccid> angasule: agreed
[12:22] <angasule> DaSkreech: amsn is proof that msn messenger is not the ugliest IM client :P
[12:22] <flaccid> i'd like to know how to make konqueror keep its window position and panel off
[12:22] <DaSkreech> angasule: Hey Give MSN points for trying
[12:23] <jerrold> i just did an apt-get install kxdocker..and it showed up as a program on..but when i launch it..nothing happens...im also using Beryl as my window manager
[12:23] <flaccid> everytime i launch konqueror , its not maximised, has the panel open etc.
[12:23] <Ruth> Hello people!!!
[12:23] <red22> yo
[12:23] <ColonelPanic001> Hi
[12:23] <DaSkreech> Ruth: Hi. How's Naomi :)
[12:23] <intelikey> ColonelPanic001 expect timeout timedout patch ;send "1\r"
[12:23] <FlameMaster> Can I use Ubuntu installer instead of a Live Install on Kubuntu Edgy DVD release (y/n)?
[12:23] <DaSkreech> Or not
[12:24] <angasule> flaccid: go to Settings->Save View Profile "something" and then save the profile (look at the checkboxes for WHAT you are saving, though)
[12:24] <DaSkreech> FlameMaster: What are the options when you start up?
[12:24] <robotgeek> FlameMaster: right click in the frame -> Advanced Window Settings?
[12:24] <FlameMaster> DaSkreech: damn, I would have to reboot :S
[12:24] <FlameMaster> brb
[12:25] <FlameMaster> robotgeek: I'll try
[12:25] <FlameMaster> robotgeek: on the Boot window?
[12:25] <robotgeek> FlameMaster: sorry, wrong tab hilight
[12:25] <FlameMaster> oh
[12:25] <robotgeek> flaccid: sorry, wrong tab hilight
[12:25] <flaccid> angasule: ah thanks for that! never used to have to do that
[12:25] <robotgeek> crap!
[12:25] <robotgeek> flaccid: : right click in the frame -> Advanced Window Settings?
[12:26] <flaccid> the save profile did it
[12:26] <robotgeek> cool
[12:26] <angasule> flaccid: be advised, you'll have to do it for the File manager profile, and for the Web profile
[12:26] <flaccid> maybe it used to auto save the profile ,but not anymore
[12:26] <flaccid> ah ok
[12:27] <flaccid> anyone here use knocker?
[12:28] <angasule> hmm, I'm finding lots of interesting bits about the CD-eating bug
[12:28] <BetaCookies> cd eating bug?
[12:28] <flaccid> cd eating bugs are way to common. i generally give up on them.
[12:28] <ColonelPanic001> CDs are crunchy
[12:28] <angasule> if someone has a CD with a pdf file, would you try to replicate it for me, please? the instructions are easy
[12:29] <dr0fnax> !wine
[12:29] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:29] <jerrold> anyone happen to use kxdocker? i cant seem to get it working
[12:29] <flaccid> kxdocker worked for me when i tried it, but not under xgl
[12:29] <flaccid> sorry i didn't try it under xgl
[12:29] <DaSkreech> Brand even
[12:30] <Xal2> I wonder if anyone has run vmware for linux on wine, installed linux on it, run wine and then vmware again and then install windows on the virtual machine on which vmware is also installed, and then install linux on that one
[12:30] <flaccid> probably
[12:33] <angasule> what severity would the CD-eating bug be?
[12:34] <DaSkreech> angasule: grandma blocking
[12:34] <cpk1> cd eating?
[12:34] <flaccid> i would rate it high
[12:34] <angasule> I don't recall that category :P
[12:34] <flaccid> because it has usability impacts
[12:34] <cpk1> i want to have something that eats cds
[12:34] <ds_> XVampireX um......you there
[12:35] <XVampireX> Maybe
[12:35] <ds_> Why'd you get all pissy and leave earlier O_O
[12:36] <XVampireX> ds_: What?
[12:36] <DaSkreech> I'm in
[12:37] <ds_> You get all mad and left earlier
[12:38] <XVampireX> I didn't get mad :D
[12:38] <ds_> Bull, you stormed out - got off Konversation
[12:38] <XVampireX> Hey, don't blame me, something was going on wrong with my X server, it kept crashing
[12:38] <angasule> actually, konqueror is lock-happy, it's not related to CD-ROMs, so I guess it could lock anything...
[12:39] <XVampireX> But now I'm fine
[12:39] <ds_> Well, anyways
[12:39] <flaccid> lock-happy?
[12:39] <ds_> I couldn't get game to work
[12:39] <flaccid> how can you confirm its not konqueror?
[12:39] <XVampireX> ds_: Well hey, who knows, I got it working just fine, and that's with not much problems, really...
[12:40] <XVampireX> ds_: Give me just a second and I'll dig(g) you a howto for warcraft 3, then
[12:40] <ds_> That's what I've been reading
[12:40] <ds_> Howtos...but, I can't follow them perfectly I don't guess
[12:41] <XVampireX> ds_: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Warcraft3&back=HOWTO+INDEX+Wine+Games
[12:41] <XVampireX> Don't do the mounting part, you don't need it
[12:41] <sascha_> hi, I cant boot since I installed 2.6.19, waiting for root. anybody can help please?
[12:41] <ds_> I walmost thinking about trying to dual boot if this doesnt work
[12:41] <cpk1> ds_: you trying to get warcraft 3 to work with wine?
[12:41] <ds_> Yes, I am cpk1
[12:41] <cpk1> ds_: whats the problem you are having?
[12:42] <ds_> The whole no cd crap
[12:42] <ds_> I've checked the drives in Winecfg
[12:42] <ds_> And it's set to CDROM
[12:42] <lenscape> !source.list
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about source.list - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <lenscape> !sources.list
[12:42] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:43] <cpk1> what version of wine
[12:43] <lenscape> anyone got a definitive sources.list ?
[12:44] <cpk1> wine --version will tell you
[12:44] <DaSkreech> !easysource > lenscape
[12:44] <cloakable> lenscape: Depends on what you mean by definative
[12:45] <angasule> ok, submitted as bug 74204, but it didn't allow me to set the importance or anything, so I guess I'll have to wait for it to be assigned.
[12:46] <cpk1> ds_: ?
[12:46] <lenscape> cloakable: well, to start with, I'm after all the media player stuff
[12:46] <ds_> 0.9.26 on the wine version
[12:46] <angasule> argggh, that flash install question is really annoying
[12:46] <sascha_> The new kernel stays checking hda1,2,3,4 althoug I should had sda1,2,3,4.  Anybody and an idea?
[12:46] <lenscape> source-o-matic isn't up-to-date. No Edgy
[12:46] <cpk1> ds_: what windows version are you telling it to use?
[12:47] <ds_> XP
[12:47] <DaSkreech> just replace dapper with edgy :)
[12:47] <intelikey> !easyubuntu
[12:47] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[12:47] <BluesKaj> howdy all ! :)
[12:48] <intelikey> BluesKaj
[12:48] <cpk1> ds_: and /media/cdrom0 is set to cdrom?
[12:48] <ds_> Yes
[12:49] <cpk1> ok hang on give a me a second to try to remember if i did anything else to get it to work
[12:49] <ds_> Did you get a crack
[12:49] <cpk1> nope
[12:49] <XVampireX> I did
[12:49] <ds_> AND you could use Battle.net?
[12:49] <cpk1> yup
[12:49] <cpk1> played last night
[12:49] <XVampireX> must have changed in recent versions
[12:50] <ds_> Hm =(
[12:50] <lenscape> source-o-matic isn't giving me anything
[12:51] <dr0fnax> wine is always resetting screen resolution to maximum after closing full-screen application. Any suggestions?
[12:52] <cpk1> ds_: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=1177 you read that and make sure you dont have a bad kernel version or anything?
[12:52] <ds_> Yeah?
[12:52] <ds_> Alright
[12:52] <BluesKaj> lost audio in kaffeine , audio works fine in xmms(streamtuner) and VLC , i guess the Xine based players are affected.
[12:52] <ds_> Ill check
[12:52] <lenscape> ok. I think I have it sussed. Thanks all
[12:53] <BluesKaj> anyone know od the xine repos?
[12:53] <intelikey> !mp3
[12:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:53] <ds_> How do I know what my kernel is
[12:53] <flaccid> ds_: uname -r
[12:53] <BluesKaj> !xine
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <XVampireX> ds_: you use edgy eft
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Xine
[12:54] <BluesKaj> !Xine
[12:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <XVampireX> ds_: It doesn't matter precise numbers, just edgy eft kernel ;)
[12:54] <ds_> Yeah, it was 2.6.17-10-generic, that's good enough...Edgy Eft kernel
[12:54] <intelikey> BluesKaj did ya even look at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats ?
[12:55] <BluesKaj> intelikey, it's in my sources list
[12:55] <intelikey> and your point is ?
[12:56] <ds_> Hm, Ill look for a noCD crack =( Doesnt look like itll work otherwise
[12:56] <intelikey> BluesKaj or are you saying you want to know what repo a package came form ???
[12:57] <cpk1> ds_: it works without one
[12:57] <cpk1> obviously
[12:57] <cpk1> ds_: is this a completely vanilla install of wine?
[12:57] <BluesKaj> yes intelikey, exactly
[12:57] <intelikey> cause that's a horse of another apocalypse
[12:57] <BluesKaj> or a norse of a different colour
[12:59] <joelbastidasr> soy un nuevo en linux, por favor como instalo mozilla en kubuntu?
[12:59] <angasule> !es
[12:59] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:59] <XVampireX> ds_: What if I install warcraft 3 and get it working in less time than you would find a no-cd patch and apply it, realising it didn't work for you because it's a PEBKAC problem?
[01:00] <intelikey> BluesKaj if there is a way to back track that information, i have yet to find it.
[01:00] <robotgeek> what about apt-get policy or so. lemme check
[01:00] <ds_> PEBKAC?
[01:01] <BluesKaj> intelikey, I'm doing a looksee ...just a bit lazy , yhinking i might get a quick fix :)
[01:01] <BluesKaj> was
[01:02] <XVampireX> ds_: Problem exists between keyboard and chair
[01:02] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: apt-cache policy package, i think
[01:02] <cpk1> pebkac = problem exists between keyboard and chair
[01:02] <BluesKaj> ok robotgeek, thx i'll look for it
[01:04] <angasule> any developers that can get https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/74204  moving? :) I don't know why it wouldn't let me give more info about it
[01:04] <cpk1> i lost i script somehow that i use everyday with tab complete =\
[01:06] <angasule> cpk1: I have a problem with the cushion I place on top of my chair, is that what you mean? I have also been told I have a brightness problem, but my screen looks ok
[01:06] <cpk1> found it!
[01:06] <cpk1> angasule: huh?
[01:06] <eilker>  i did a mistake and removed 55 packages, is there a command to install all packages in /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:07] <robotgeek> eilker: not to worry, that is just a cache. nothing wrong will happen to your machine
[01:07] <ds_> Man, Serge, you're being weird
[01:07] <XVampireX> I'm not being weird :P
[01:08] <intelikey> BluesKaj apt-get policy <package-name> | grep 500                       but i get some conflicting information.  example;  linux-image-386 is no longer installed and i get a return for two packages of that name  one from main and one from security updates
[01:08] <robotgeek> intelikey: maybe it does not work for metapackages, i dunno
[01:09] <intelikey> so it does seem to work on packages that are installed   but may fail on packages that have been installed/updated/and removed...
[01:09] <rance> could someone give me a hand, Ive got no sound in a new kubuntu install, and I've already tried the hints on ubuntux.org
[01:09] <eilker> robotgeek: i removed myself 55 packages...
[01:09] <robotgeek> eilker: okay. go on
[01:10] <intelikey> !sound | rance
[01:10] <ubotu> rance: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[01:10] <intelikey> those pages ?
[01:10] <fildo> morning all
[01:11] <BluesKaj> intelikey, there'd a new kaffeine offering as of Nov26, http://kaffeine.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=download
[01:11] <BetaCookies> can i install ubuntu-desktop in kubuntu, will it replace anything?
[01:12] <XVampireX> No won't replace but yes you can install ubuntu-desktop
[01:12] <XVampireX> You can have as many desktops as you want, just keep in mind programs mix
[01:13] <Ace2016> won't that replace the boot screen?
[01:14] <BetaCookies> XVampireX: well how can I install gnome and its libs then?
[01:14] <eilker> is there a log for apt ?? to learning what i did , install and uninstall_?
[01:14] <XVampireX> BetaCookies: You want just gnome or ubuntu?
[01:15] <XVampireX> you can install gnome-desktop it's also a metapackage for gnome stuff
[01:16] <BetaCookies> i just want gnome
[01:16] <BetaCookies> ack nevermind
[01:16] <flaccid> !baddevice > fildo
[01:17] <eilker> is there a log for apt ?? showing adept's work ?
[01:18] <robotgeek> eilker: not, not really. do you which ones you deleted (how did you delete?
[01:18] <fildo> thanx flaccid
[01:18] <Ace2016> i would ask what you lost but i guess thats what your trying to find
[01:18] <fildo> ur a great help as always
[01:18] <flaccid> np
[01:18] <flaccid> hehe
[01:19] <eilker> i uninstalled openLDAP , and it removed 55 packages...
[01:20] <eilker> and i dont know how to install all packages where /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:20] <eilker> any command for it ?*
[01:20] <Ace2016> dpkg -i *.deb ???
[01:21] <Ace2016> but wouldn't here be like older versions there or would they have been removed?
[01:22] <robotgeek> eilker: if all the packages are there, you can sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[01:24] <intelikey> oh KRAP!  package  libc6   depends on bash     that should not be.
[01:25] <malik_> can any 1 help me with setting up my webcam in kubuntu?
[01:26] <sponix> intelikey: thats kinda funny ;)
[01:26] <eilker> sudo dpkg -i *.deb gives dependency problem
[01:27] <simmerz> how do i get around the problem of the updater in kubuntu when it wants to give configuration options via the dialog? it displays the dialog when i view the full progress, but it doesn't let me input anything
[01:27] <eilker> cant i show to adept a local repo ???
[01:27] <malik_> no help?
[01:27] <malik_> thats gr8
[01:28] <robotgeek> e1mer: you can copy those packages, and create a local repo
[01:29] <eilker> robotgeek: where to copy ?
[01:29] <e1mer> robotgeek: ?
[01:29] <intelikey> sponix how so ?
[01:29] <robotgeek> e1mer: if it gives dependency problems now, try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[01:29] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> howdy robotgeek  o/
[01:29] <robotgeek> hey
[01:30] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> hows ya doin..  I got all my updates n stuff done..  and flash 9 installed..  :)
[01:30] <robotgeek> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: cool
[01:31] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> now, I was wonderin ....  how would I go about makin my box VERY secure....   other then disconnecting.. :p
[01:31] <intelikey> sponix one might be trying to install and need to unpack libc6 before installing bash  in which case dpkg would totally freak.   or perhaps for what ever cause one didn't want bash installed.  maybe they like a different posix-complient shell    depending on  /bin/sh is one thing  but depending on /bin/bash is entirely another.
[01:31] <CaBlGuY> just wanna try and get all the security I can outa my install..
[01:32] <eloquence_> can somebody help me with this? http://pastebin.ca/265091 I think there is a problem in the makefile adding an extra /
[01:32] <malik_>  and need to unpack libc6 before installing bash  in which case dpkg would totally freak.   or perhaps for what ever cause one didn't want bash installed.  maybe they like a different posix-complient shell    depending on  /bin/sh is one thing  but depending on /bin/bash is entirely another.+
[01:33] <sponix> intelikey: I know, its a major oops, but thats what I find funny
[01:33] <intelikey> oh.
[01:33] <eilker> !local repo
[01:33] <sponix> intelikey: Linux users are normally so stuck on bash, whoever did that probably didn't even think twice about it
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about local repo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <eilker> !repo
[01:33] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:34] <CaBlGuY> !security
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about security - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <simmerz> how do i get around the problem of the updater in kubuntu when it wants to give configuration options via the dialog? it displays the dialog when i view the full progress, but it doesn't let me input anything
[01:34] <sponix> intelikey: I myself love bash, but I see crazy deps like that all the time
[01:34] <intelikey> yeah.    and dpkg pre/post install/remove scripts with #!/bin/bash  is another NO NO.
[01:34] <CaBlGuY> simmerz:  use sudo update on the command..  that'll work
[01:34] <sponix> intelikey: tons of things depend on pam all the time that I feel shouldn't and so forth
[01:34] <simmerz> this is using adept-manager btw
[01:35] <intelikey> sponix yep.
[01:35] <sponix> intelikey: good old days, with static /bin (mainly fbsd) are over also :P
[01:35] <robotgeek> eloquence_: err, sudo make is a nono!
[01:35] <sponix> intelikey: one screwed /lib and presto, boot cd it is :)
[01:35] <politik> I'm running kubuntu edgy on my dell d820 laptop. Tonight I am booting my laptop, and it gets about 1/3rd of the way through the kubuntu boot screen progress bar, then freezes. Then, the boot screen disappears and I see the text boot log, and it seems to have frozen right after "Checking file systems" finished
[01:35] <asz_confused> hey guys, I need some help trying to remove a pain in the ass package
[01:35] <simmerz> CaBlGuY: I'm perfectly able to do that, but its my dad's machine. I'm wondering if there is a dummy's way (like changing debconf to use kdialog or something)
[01:35] <intelikey> ummm hmmm
[01:35] <BetaCookies> how do I install openGL?
[01:35] <CaBlGuY> simmerz:    Hmmmm
[01:36] <intelikey> asz_confused you shouldn't have installed such.....  oh.  sorry.
[01:36] <eloquence_> robotgeek: even with a regular make its the same result
[01:36] <robotgeek> simmerz: install lib-qtperl and sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf
[01:36] <intelikey> asz_confused what package
[01:36] <asz_confused> I've tried removing it with apt-get, synaptic, adept, everything, but keeping getting an error 1
[01:36] <CaBlGuY> !tell BetaCookies about openGL
[01:36] <asz_confused> linux-igd
[01:36] <simmerz> robotgeek: thanks. thats what i needed
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openGL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:37] <CaBlGuY> robotgeek:  I knew sudo was in there somewhere.. :p
[01:37] <simmerz> robotgeek: then any time a config is needed, it will auto popup from adept?
[01:37] <BetaCookies> !tell BetaCookies about opengl
[01:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:37] <intelikey> asz_confused ok do this and pastebin the output   sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-igd
[01:37] <BetaCookies> lol
[01:37] <robotgeek> eloquence_: you need to make oldconfig, i think
[01:37] <sponix> intelikey: would have have a sec to check the status of a website for me, its one of my favorites and I'm having trouble getting it to load tonight
[01:37] <eloquence_> how do i do that?
[01:37] <eloquence_> just make oldconfig? type that?
[01:37] <intelikey> url
[01:37] <robotgeek> eloquence_: what are you trying to do?
[01:37] <CaBlGuY> BetaCookies:  what Vid card ya got?
[01:37] <sponix> intelikey: I'll msg it .. its far from *nix related ;)
[01:37] <robotgeek> simmerz: it should.
[01:38] <eloquence_> install ieee80211 subsystem so that i can install my intel ipw3945's wireless driver
[01:38] <asz_confused> intelikey, pastebin?
[01:38] <robotgeek> eloquence_: okay. so, you are talking about building a new kernel
[01:38] <intelikey> sponix 404
[01:38] <robotgeek> asz_confused, don't paste in here. Please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:38] <BetaCookies> CaBlGuY: well, it was working when i had fglrx installed, but now I'm using "radeon" driver, and I don't have direct rendering available -- it is enabled with fglrx though
[01:38] <sponix> intelikey: thanks
[01:39] <intelikey> !paste | asz_confused
[01:39] <ubotu> asz_confused: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:39] <sponix> intelikey: if you haven't been there, its a great site for adult movies through torrent
[01:39] <asz_confused> ahh, thanks
[01:39] <eloquence_> i guess so robotgeek ... i tried ti in ubuntu and it aint work
[01:39] <Bubba_Gump> how to run wine?
[01:39] <intelikey> sponix i don't do that kinda thing.
[01:39] <eloquence_> i just installed kubuntu hoping maybe it would
[01:39] <intelikey> sponix and i could guess by the name.
[01:39] <robotgeek> eloquence_: there is not much difference kernel wise in ubuntu and kubuntu
[01:39] <Bubba_Gump> !wine
[01:39] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:39] <CaBlGuY> BetaCookies:  Hmmmmm   have you tried a apt-get update yet?
[01:40] <BetaCookies> CaBlGuY: upgrade?
[01:40] <asz_confused> intelikey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35136/
[01:40] <eloquence_> yea i know but i had kinda screwed my ubuntu up anyways :)
[01:40] <CaBlGuY> beta..  yep..   open your command line and do a sudo apt-get update
[01:40] <robotgeek> eloquence_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:40] <intelikey> asz_confused ok.  we can hack that.
[01:41] <politik> no one is having problems with edgy freezing during boot?
[01:41] <asz_confused> yay? :D
[01:41] <CaBlGuY> BetaCookies:  what version you got installed btw?
[01:41] <BetaCookies> CaBlGuY: edgy
[01:41] <CaBlGuY> wow..  you got the old one..
[01:41] <robotgeek> intelikey: i had to hack another post-rm script yesterday on edgy. it sucks!
[01:42] <BetaCookies> CaBlGuY: what?
[01:42] <robotgeek> pre-rm, rather
[01:43] <CaBlGuY> BetaCookies:  you should do an apt-get upgrad if you can do that in edgy...  lots of fixes n stuff in 6.o6 and higher..
[01:43] <CaBlGuY> !edgy upgrade
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edgy upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <BetaCookies> CaBlGuY: edgy is latest..
[01:43] <BetaCookies> are you thinking of breezy?
[01:43] <CaBlGuY> no i[m sorry.. it's not
[01:43] <CaBlGuY> !6.10
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 6.10 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <CaBlGuY> hang on
[01:44] <robotgeek> !edgy
[01:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[01:44] <CaBlGuY> :p] 
[01:44] <BetaCookies> hah :P
[01:45] <intelikey> asz_confused what that does is tells the package manager that it's ok to continue the removal, then repairs what we changed.
[01:45] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm
[01:46] <robotgeek> intelikey: dpkg crashed at the end
[01:46] <asz_confused> so, it removes it completely?
[01:46] <robotgeek> intelikey: next time it tries, it will try to remove it and crash again. and so on
[01:46] <intelikey> asz_confused yes.
[01:46] <asz_confused> I believe it worked :D
[01:46] <asz_confused> at the very least, it didn't fail
[01:46] <Bubba_Gump> how do i install windows apps using wine? I'm at the 'destination folder' bit
[01:46] <blanky> hey guys
[01:46] <CaBlGuY> BetaCookies:  so anyway..  just do that update and see if that helps ya out..
[01:47] <intelikey> in linux 'no error' == 'no error'
[01:47] <blanky> in kde, when i try to graphically empty the trash bin, it says i dont have permission for a certain file
[01:47] <BetaCookies> CaBlGuY: its upgrade, not update >.>
[01:47] <blanky> how can i do it in 'sudo'
[01:47] <asz_confused> thanks intelikey, that things been hasseling me all day
[01:47] <intelikey> asz_confused np.
[01:47] <asz_confused> believe it was botching installation of other packs too
[01:47] <CaBlGuY> BetaCookies:  there's an update.. and then there is alos upGRADE
[01:47] <CaBlGuY> there's both..
[01:47] <CaBlGuY> u can do an upDATE and then try and upGRADE
[01:48] <BetaCookies> nonono
[01:48] <BetaCookies> you apt-get update if you changed the sources.list
[01:48] <BetaCookies> upgrade actually upgrades the older files
[01:48] <CaBlGuY> BetaCookies: nonono    dam kids....   *sigh*    update does other packages as well...
[01:49] <CaBlGuY> upGRADE does the whole system..
[01:49] <robotgeek> CaBlGuY: update just gets new file list. upgrade upgrades them
[01:49] <intelikey> robotgeek what i had him do was change invoke-rc.d into /bin/true  because dpkg was trying to shut down a non-existant daemon
[01:49] <robotgeek> intelikey: oh okay. cool
[01:49] <CaBlGuY> yes oh robotgeek masta...
[01:49] <CaBlGuY> :p
[01:49] <intelikey> easer than fixing the script in most cases
[01:49] <BetaCookies> now CaBlGuY you *are* wrong at the moment
[01:50] <BetaCookies> i dont care how much you *want* to be right, you are still wrong...
[01:50] <intelikey> CaBlGuY dist-upgrade  ^
[01:50] <robotgeek> intelikey: yes. the script in question yesterday was completely different that the one on my system
[01:51] <robotgeek> intelikey: i think there are more than one way to approach the issue, i think yours is better :)
[01:51] <intelikey> robotgeek if one is broken too badly you can add exit 0 to the second line.... :)
[01:51] <CaBlGuY> yea yea yea, I got it..
[01:51] <CaBlGuY> sheesh!
[01:51] <CaBlGuY> :p
[01:51] <robotgeek> intelikey: i generally start by removing set -e
[01:51] <intelikey> yeah
[01:52] <CaBlGuY> so anyway..  the original reason I came in..
[01:52] <CaBlGuY> robotgeek:  security..  I wanna get as secure as I can be..
[01:52] <intelikey> selinux  for starters
[01:53] <robotgeek> intelikey: i would guess he means for kubuntu
[01:53] <intelikey> SecurityEnhancedLINUX
[01:53] <intelikey> robotgeek it's just the kernel.  you can run in in your system
[01:53] <CaBlGuY> I just want my box to be secure in this day and age of big brother watchin us...
[01:53] <CaBlGuY> that's all.
[01:53] <CaBlGuY> :)
[01:53] <robotgeek> CaBlGuY: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security
[01:54] <CaBlGuY> K..
[01:55] <intelikey> CaBlGuY hehhe  wanting to hide from us it funny...   simple answer. don't do anything wrong and you don't care if "big brother" does watch.
[01:55] <BetaCookies> intelikey: even if you dont do anything wrong, you might have private stuff that you dont want "big brother" watching :P
[01:55] <robotgeek> it's tough to escape big brother, if at all. tor seems like the closest thing towards such a thing, but too much abuse.
[01:55] <politik> Ok I just chose the recovery kernel in grub, and now I think I can see what the problem is: "[17179598.452000]  BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!" any clue what this is???
[01:55] <Lam_> what's the significance of that down arrow on the STOP button in Amarok?
[01:56] <intelikey> BetaCookies na
[01:56] <robotgeek> Lam_: click-hold it
[01:56] <Lam_> robotgeek: wow cool, thanks
[01:56] <intelikey> BetaCookies you might have things you don't want a thief to see.  but that's common sense.
[01:56] <CaBlGuY> intelikey:   I'm not the only one...   big brother is watcjin everyone..   even you..
[01:56] <CaBlGuY> just so ya know
[01:56] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[01:57] <intelikey> CaBlGuY oh i kno.
[01:57] <sliq> hi room!
[01:57] <intelikey> CaBlGuY yall pay my check.  :)
[01:57] <sliq> what are the main improvements for this new ubuntu
[01:57] <sliq> ?
[01:58] <CaBlGuY> LOL   I aint payin no one shit..   cept my own bills..   ;)
[01:58] <CaBlGuY> and I ONLY do that cause I gotta
[01:58] <robotgeek> sliq: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php
[01:58] <BetaCookies> Hey
[01:58] <intelikey> sliq new and enhanced bugs, faster crash time; and greater effort installing  :)
[01:59] <robotgeek> intelikey: lol
[01:59] <BetaCookies> Is there a way to change the default volume of applications? They are always really loud, even when KMix has the volume at 0%
[01:59] <robotgeek> BetaCookies: i think you might need to configure kmix then, which channels to control, etc
[01:59] <politik> alright I have a bug to report to you folks. yes I am too lazy to report it properly. If the wireless card enable switch on my laptop (dell d820) is turned off when I try to boot, the laptop will not boot, and says [17179598.452000]  BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!. If I enable the switch, it boots as usual.
[02:00] <BetaCookies> robotgeek: how? :s
[02:00] <robotgeek> !bug
[02:00] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[02:00] <robotgeek> politik: ^^ file it there
[02:00] <intelikey> politik put'er thar' ^^^
[02:00] <CaBlGuY> K im out..
[02:00] <CaBlGuY> bbl
[02:01] <robotgeek> BetaCookies: right click -> show master window -> configure kmix, i think
[02:02] <intelikey> politik also of note one might be able to rebuild the initramfs.img and fix that.    not sure how much it's worth to you.
[02:03] <politik> intelikey: how would that be related?
[02:03] <Ace2016> bye all
[02:05] <eq_> what's a good audio player (small in size) that plays real audio files?
[02:05] <politik> apparently this is a known issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251944&page=2
[02:05] <garret> All I could use some help.  I just upgraded to edgy and now I can not log into KDE or start any KDE application.  Also, I can not get OpenOffice to open.  Any thoughts?
[02:06] <intelikey> politik [17179598.452000]   that would be a kernel message,  you specified it's network related and also that it fails to boot. (which if you have a clue what "boot" means) tells me that the system is halting in the initramfs.   but if it's booting and init/upstart is hanging it out to dry then it's in the init scripts.
[02:07] <Zabulus> ok, how do i get my wireless usb to work?
[02:07] <Zabulus> netgear wpn111
[02:07] <intelikey> !wifi
[02:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:07] <launchpad> !apt-get
[02:07] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:07] <eq_> what's a good audio player (small in size) that plays real audio files?
[02:07] <politik> intelikey: its definitely in the init scripts, but why would my initramfs be corrupt in the first place?
[02:07] <BluesKaj> real audio for linux
[02:07] <BluesKaj> !real audio
[02:08] <eq_> isn't it huge in size?
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about real audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <intelikey> politik what part of that did you miss ???   is it booting or not ?
[02:08] <BluesKaj> i think you can find real audio in automatix2
[02:08] <intelikey> define to boot.
[02:08] <politik> it is booting, if I turn on the wireless switch
[02:09] <garret> All, any thoughts on why I can not log into KDE after upgrading to edgy?
[02:10] <intelikey> system boot up is loading the kernel and mounting the root filesystem.   future processes are post boot yet still within the startup sequence.     why is it defined that way?   because a system booted is usable.  even if it later becomes unusable it was already "booted".
[02:10] <robotgeek> !codecs > BluesKaj
[02:11] <launchpad> sniff sniff
[02:12] <politik> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/63418 this is the exact bug I experienced.
[02:12] <BluesKaj> found it in synaptic, strange that adept didn't have it , robotgeek
[02:13] <blanky> intelikey: how do I pass params to a maek file? i forget
[02:13] <blanky> make /blah=thing
[02:13] <blanky> ?
[02:13] <intelikey> now that being said.   if while starting up you see mounting root blah blah blah...  then the problem is not in the kernel nor the initramfs   but in the startup scripts most likely.      if you don't get to the real root fs  then it's probably in the initramfs.  because the kernel loads very quickly and you would think that grub is failing if it's the kernel.
[02:13] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: depends on if you turned on the commercial repository
[02:13] <launchpad> crap
[02:13] <blanky> intelikey: ?
[02:14] <intelikey> blanky idk  i don't compile much.
[02:14] <robotgeek> launchpad: what happ?
[02:14] <BluesKaj> the audio isn't working still, tho , robot
[02:14] <launchpad> hey guys i install ubuntu 5.10 and im trying to update thru apt-get.. i dont have any cds
[02:14] <launchpad> and im getting an error
[02:14] <SupremeBeing> what's the command to edit a conf file?
[02:14] <robotgeek> launchpad: paste the error, please
[02:14] <launchpad> and the peeps in ubuntu arnt responding
[02:15] <launchpad> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[02:15] <SupremeBeing> abattoir: Wow! It's been a while! This is ColonelKernel from about 5 months ago =D
[02:15] <launchpad> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[02:15] <launchpad> launchpad@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[02:15] <launchpad> Reading package lists... Done
[02:15] <launchpad> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:15] <launchpad> Calculating upgrade... Done
[02:15] <launchpad> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:15] <launchpad> i did that then i did sudo
[02:15] <BluesKaj> interesting that a SupremeBeing needs help :)
[02:15] <SupremeBeing> BluesKaj: Ironic, no?
[02:15] <gnomefreak> SupremeBeing: kdesu kate /file/file.conf
[02:15] <BluesKaj> yuo :)
[02:15] <abattoir> hello SupremeBeing :)
[02:15] <SupremeBeing> gnomefreak: kdesu that's it. thanks
[02:15] <SupremeBeing> abattoir: Hello!
[02:15] <Zabulus> who wants to help me get my wireless working?
[02:15] <abattoir> SupremeBeing: how are you?
[02:15] <robotgeek> !upgrade > launchpad
[02:15] <gnomefreak> launchpad: you cant use update-manager without first setting use of the net repos
[02:16] <intelikey> politik boot the system with  init=/bin/sh    if you get to the shell it's not a "boot" issue   it's a startup issue.    and the problem is in the scripts.    else it's a boot issue.   and rebuilding the initramfs.img  "might" help.
[02:16] <SupremeBeing> abattoir: Excellent! Making more progress than I did last time =P
[02:16] <launchpad> ok reposiatorys then
[02:16] <abattoir> SupremeBeing: great :)
[02:16] <gnomefreak> launchpad: read the link ubotu sent you everything should be there
[02:16] <politik> intelikey: okay, I'll give it a shot, thanks
[02:16] <launchpad> okie thanks
[02:16] <intelikey> politik note that init=/bin/sh  the system will be read only.  so you can't hurt it
[02:16] <Zabulus> who wants to help me get my wireless working?
[02:17] <SupremeBeing> abattoir: only thing left is fixing this stupid fglrx to work :D
[02:17] <intelikey> ... can't hurt it if you stay out of /dev  that is.
[02:17] <launchpad> grr i cant wait till my offical ubuntu book comes in
[02:17] <RoKFiT> Hello, yesterday I mounted a drive and I do not have write access to the drive, can anyone help me?
[02:17] <launchpad> read it while listing to the eagles lol
[02:17] <gnomefreak> !repos | launchpad
[02:17] <ubotu> launchpad: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:17] <adept_x> rokfit, on which computer did you format the drive?
[02:17] <gnomefreak> the book is no different than the wikis except format
[02:17] <RoKFiT> this one
[02:17] <intelikey> RoKFiT is that the one you edited /etc/fstab for ?
[02:17] <adept_x> on which account? root?
[02:17] <RoKFiT> intelikey: yes.
[02:18] <RoKFiT> no user
[02:18] <launchpad> yeah but its easier for me to have a book
[02:18] <RoKFiT> intelikey: how can i change write access
[02:18] <launchpad> for some reason i like my stuff in print instead of electronical lol
[02:18] <adept_x> you will have to change the permissions as root to allow accdes to your user group./
[02:18] <Zabulus> who wants to help me get my wireless working?
[02:18] <intelikey> RoKFiT what fs type is it ?
[02:18] <RoKFiT> i'm not sure, how do i check/
[02:18] <launchpad> ok im assuming sence cp /etc/apt/sources.{list,list.bak}; sed -i s/dapper/edgy/g /etc/apt/sources.list didnt say anything it backed up correctly?
[02:18] <intelikey> mount
[02:18] <abattoir> SupremeBeing: oh, you're following the wiki guide?
[02:18] <RoKFiT> ext3
[02:19] <launchpad> i also have another question if yall dont mind
[02:19] <SupremeBeing> abattoir: at the moment, i'm trying this guide: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_new_8.29.6_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually
[02:19] <intelikey> RoKFiT sudo chmod 777 /media/where-ever-it-is...
[02:19] <launchpad> when i goto system ; administration ; disk i run into a problem
[02:19] <gnomefreak> launchpad: double check if your not sure
[02:19] <gnomefreak> but should have yes
[02:20] <RoKFiT> intelikey: didn't i do this yesterday?
[02:20] <intelikey> did you ?
[02:20] <intelikey> seems like it.
[02:20] <intelikey> what's the mountpoint ?
[02:20] <launchpad> it shows 2 hard drives... one says one is unknown at /dev/mapper/ubuntu
[02:20] <RoKFiT> ... /dev/sdb1
[02:20] <launchpad> then my other is /dev/sda
[02:21] <launchpad> what is that /dev/mapper/ubuntu?
[02:21] <intelikey> RoKFiT no  the mountpoint  not the device node
[02:21] <intelikey>  /media/sdb1 ?
[02:21] <RoKFiT> ... /media/sdb1
[02:21] <intelikey> k   ls -ld /medai/sdb1
[02:21] <intelikey> and show me
[02:22] <RoKFiT> drwxrwxrwx 6 root root 4096 2006-11-25 15:24 /media/sdb1
[02:22] <launchpad> gnomefreak are you busy at the moment?
[02:22] <intelikey> you should have full access to that.
[02:22] <gnomefreak> yes give me a minute
[02:22] <intelikey> what is it you can't do ?
[02:22] <Zabulus> who wants to help me get my wireless working?
[02:22] <launchpad> ok thanks
[02:23] <RoKFiT> dang, than why can't i copy a .vcf file from the Kontact folder where it is stored.  I want my file on my backup drive so it's always there
[02:23] <RoKFiT> instead of on the main fs
[02:23] <RoKFiT> i was trying to copy the file, then point to it inside the app
[02:23] <gnomefreak> ok launchpad whats up?
[02:24] <intelikey> RoKFiT in the konsole;  cp ~/that-file /media/sdb1    lets see the error message ?
[02:24] <launchpad> ok im in system ;administration ; disks
[02:25] <launchpad> i see two hard drives
[02:25] <gnomefreak> k
[02:25] <launchpad> one is labeled /dev/mapper/ubuntu
[02:25] <launchpad> then i see my other which is /dev/
[02:25] <gnomefreak> mapper?
[02:25] <launchpad> /dev/home
[02:25] <launchpad> yeah
[02:25] <intelikey> address maybe  ~/.kde/share/apps/kontact    or something like that.
[02:25] <SupremeBeing> is it still necessary to enable mp3 support in kubuntu?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> launchpad: i have never seen that before
[02:26] <gnomefreak> SupremeBeing: if you want to listen to mp3s yes
[02:26] <launchpad> oh crap
[02:26] <launchpad> i think i know what it is
[02:26] <launchpad> ubunutu gave me this lvm thing
[02:26] <RoKFiT> that-file?
[02:26] <launchpad> and i selected it
[02:26] <RoKFiT> oh hold on
[02:26] <launchpad> but now..
[02:26] <launchpad> if i look at the orginal hard drive
[02:27] <launchpad> i goto the partions
[02:27] <launchpad> i see partion 1 and 5
[02:27] <launchpad> partition 5 has /dev/sda5 on it
[02:27] <intelikey> SupremeBeing no.  you don't have to ever mess with restricted/propriatary formats....  but if you are going to use them it will always be nessarry to do some off colour twiddeling.
[02:27] <launchpad> says filesystem is unformated
[02:27] <launchpad> when i goto status it says inaccessible
[02:27] <SupremeBeing> intelikey: K thanks
[02:27] <launchpad> i press enable... nothing happens
[02:27] <gnomefreak> 5 should be swap
[02:27] <gangien> off colour twiddeling?
[02:28] <launchpad> hmm i think the install went wrong
[02:28] <gnomefreak> launchpad: partition 5 = swap
[02:28] <launchpad> i think ill reinstall ubuntu
[02:28] <launchpad> ok cause 232.65 gigs is swap
[02:28] <launchpad> and i realy dont want that then lol
[02:28] <intelikey> SupremeBeing and just a note; it's not linux's fault.  blame the greed-mongers that paten their code.
[02:28] <gnomefreak> launchpad: if you use the top command it should show you how much is swap
[02:29] <RoKFiT> intelikey: cp: cannot create regular file `/media/sdb1/Brandon/Files/std.vcf': Permission denied
[02:29] <launchpad> top command?
[02:29] <gnomefreak> launchpad: wth
[02:29] <gnomefreak> launchpad: top
[02:29] <gnomefreak> launchpad: i dont see the installer making a 200+ gig swap
[02:29] <launchpad> im a linux noob lol
[02:29] <gnomefreak> thats not possible with the installer unless you make it
[02:29] <gnomefreak> launchpad: ion terminal type top
[02:30] <gnomefreak> launchpad: it will show you how much swap and how much mem + what is being used of each
[02:30] <launchpad> ok in top
[02:30] <Zabulus> what sources should i uncomment in sources.list?
[02:30] <gnomefreak> Zabulus: depends what you want
[02:30] <launchpad> swap total = 6160376k total
[02:30] <Zabulus> i want to get my wireless working
[02:30] <RoKFiT> some of my folders within the disk are 501 permission, others are set to root, even after the chmod 777
[02:30] <RoKFiT> intelikey: are you still there?
[02:31] <gnomefreak> Zabulus: i would comment out the cd repo and uncomment the rest and add multiverse to the end of any line ending in universe
[02:31] <gnomefreak> Zabulus: the repos are not gonna help you get wireless working
[02:31] <intelikey> RoKFiT ah a subdir issue  lol  you have to specify things like that.    rokfit do this;   sudo -R chown $USER:`groups | cut -d' ' -f1` /media/sdb1
[02:31] <gnomefreak> Zabulus: you need the cd handy and maybe install ndiswrapper-utils
[02:31] <gnomefreak> !wireless | Zabulus
[02:31] <ubotu> Zabulus: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:31] <Zabulus> ok, so how do i get it to install indiswrapper?
[02:31] <launchpad> im gonna reinstall
[02:32] <intelikey> RoKFiT that's take care of you.    your welcome.
[02:32] <launchpad> tell it to format lol
[02:32] <gnomefreak> read the above link to help you
[02:32] <launchpad> ill brb
[02:32] <RoKFiT> sudo: illegal option `-R'
[02:32] <intelikey> put it after chown
[02:32] <launchpad> ill be back guys
[02:32] <Zabulus> unfortunately, the link from !wireless is for installed cards
[02:32] <Zabulus> mine is a usb
[02:32] <launchpad> ty for ur help i will be needing more soon
[02:33] <launchpad> gnome if i may ask
[02:33] <launchpad> what are u runing
[02:33] <RoKFiT> fixed
[02:33] <launchpad> ubuntu or kubuntu
[02:33] <RoKFiT> thank you intelikey
[02:34] <Zabulus> can someone tell me how to get a wpn111 working in kubuntu?
[02:34] <intelikey> *buntu standard help...    sudo chown -r $USER:`groups | cut -d' ' -f1` $HOME        (i call it 'own your home')
[02:34] <gnomefreak> launchpad: i have ubuntu kubuntu xubuntu e17 fluxbox blackbox god i think another one too
[02:34] <launchpad> cause ubutnu has server edition but kubuntu channle is more helpful
[02:34] <launchpad> well ill put kubuntu in
[02:34] <gnomefreak> launchpad: server is neither ubuntu nor kubuntu
[02:35] <gnomefreak> launchpad: it is server no GUI at all
[02:35] <gnomefreak> nope thats all of them
[02:35] <launchpad> grr i need a gui server edition lol
[02:35] <intelikey> that's correct
[02:36] <launchpad> im still to addicted to windows
[02:36] <RoKFiT> thank you inteli
[02:36] <launchpad> well im restarting
[02:36] <gnomefreak> launchpad: no such thing downlaod the server iso install it than install -desktop package of your choice
[02:36] <rodrigo> some would say your crazy.
[02:36] <intelikey> RoKFiT i said  welcome...
[02:36] <launchpad> so i can go from ubuntu to kubuntu
[02:36] <launchpad> ?
[02:37] <gnomefreak> ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop edubuntu-desktop pick one or more :)
[02:37] <BluesKaj> aha, the amarok xine engine needed to be installed ...now all the players work fine ...BTW robotgeek, the xine engine installs from within amarok ...when trying to play an mp3 for example if the engine is missing , a dialog box asks if you'd like amatok to install it ...neat !
[02:37] <simmerz> how do i get wpa working on the kubuntu livecd?
[02:37] <launchpad> well can i do it thru apt-get?
[02:37] <gnomefreak> launchpad: you can install any one of those i just typed and just log out log into the one you want
[02:37] <gnomefreak> launchpad: sudo apt-get install pickone
[02:37] <gnomefreak> or more
[02:37] <launchpad> i have no cds to transer tit
[02:37] <intelikey> launchpad you can if you want   sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop blackbox* fluxbox* twm ...
[02:38] <gnomefreak> install
[02:38] <intelikey> i got tired of installing for you....
[02:38] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:38] <gnomefreak> launchpad: transfer it to what why?
[02:38] <RoKFiT> intelikey: why is kontact creating extra "Contacts 1.vcf_0" and "Contacts 1.vcf_1" files?
[02:39] <launchpad> root@ubuntu:~# sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop blackbox* fluxbox* twm
[02:39] <launchpad> E: Invalid operation ubuntu-desktop
[02:39] <intelikey> RoKFiT i have no clue.  i don't use kontact.  not even a gui most of the time.
[02:39] <RoKFiT> shoot, maybe i don't want them pointing to my external drive
[02:39] <launchpad> no no trasnfer
[02:39] <gnomefreak> launchpad: install and no sudo if your in root terminal
[02:39] <gnomefreak> night
[02:39] <Zabulus> ok, how do i get my netgear wpn111 (wireless usb) to work in kubuntu dapper
[02:39] <Zabulus> ?
[02:39] <launchpad> gah so much confusion.. i need that book lol
[02:40] <launchpad> o that reminds me
[02:40] <launchpad> i must show the error  i get
[02:40] <Zabulus> anyone?
[02:41] <eq_> anybody know a program to convert .rm files to .3gp for cell phones?
[02:41] <launchpad> 6160376k is = to what total?
[02:42] <unix_infidel> !ndiswrapper | Zabulus
[02:42] <ubotu> Zabulus: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:42] <intelikey> RoKFiT if you want a really snappy mount on that other drive.  umount it and make the mount point == `echo $HOME`      like this    sudo sed s_/media/sdb1_$HOME_ /etc/fstab && umount /dev/sdb1 && mount -a         then logout and back in.
[02:42] <unix_infidel> Zabulus: you need to use the ndiswrapper docs.
[02:43] <intelikey> errr sudo both mount commands tho
[02:43] <launchpad> brb
[02:44] <intelikey> cp -R $HOME /media/sdb1 ;sudo sed s_/media/sdb1_$HOME_ /etc/fstab && sudo umount /dev/sdb1 && sudo mount -a
[02:44] <intelikey> yeah that should work.  ^
[02:45] <intelikey> errr no.
[02:45] <intelikey> redirrect the output of sed...   oh well.
[02:46] <Asz_Confused> I love you intelikey :D
[02:47] <intelikey> you'll get over it.
[02:47] <Asz_Confused> haha
[02:47] <BluesKaj> oh the luuuuvv ":)
[02:47] <SupremeBeing> well that didn't work :/
[02:48] <RoKFiT> intelikey: what will that do?
[02:48] <intelikey> cp -R $HOME /media/sdb1 ;sed s_/media/sdb1_`echo $HOME`_ /etc/fstab | sudo tee /etc/fstab && sudo umount /dev/sdb1 && sudo mount -a
[02:49] <intelikey> now that should work.
[02:49] <intelikey> RoKFiT you may not want that.
[02:49] <RoKFiT> i will just modify it in the tree view, or side view
[02:49] <intelikey> it makes the drive that is now /media/sdb1 your home dir.  ^
[02:50] <RoKFiT> how do i start konqueror with filesystem view?
[02:50] <RoKFiT> i may do that in the future
[02:51] <kubuntu-world> hi all can u help me install xp on kubuntu so i can have a dubble partion
[02:51] <kubuntu-world> ?
[02:51] <intelikey> it changes /media/sdb1 to /home/rokfit    (assuming that's your home)
[02:51] <kubuntu-world> hello intel i nead to install xp on my kubuntu so i have 2 in1 how u do that?
[02:51] <RoKFiT> i might do that in the future
[02:52] <larson9999> RoKFiT: i think it's "konqueror --profile filemanager"  or something like that. man konqueror and you'll get it
[02:52] <RoKFiT> thanks larson9999
[02:53] <kubuntu-world> so is it possible to install xp on kubuntu so u got 2 in 1?
[02:53] <intelikey> kubuntu-world you make some free space on the hd and boot the XP install disk    when you are done boot the live linux cd and reinstall grub
[02:53] <kubuntu-world> it's a big problem for me couse it's 1 time i use linux
[02:54] <kubuntu-world> i got no idea of what u speaking of
[02:54] <intelikey> not free space on the hd != free space on a partition.  two entirely different things.
[02:54] <RoKFiT> larson9999: that didn't work
[02:54] <kubuntu-world> can u hellp me do that intel?
[02:54] <RoKFiT> well it sort of did
[02:54] <intelikey> nope. kubuntu-world you are half a world away from me.
[02:54] <larson9999> RoKFiT: did you "man konqueror" ?
[02:54] <RoKFiT> can i change the tree view to explorer like?
[02:55] <RoKFiT> no i will
[02:55] <kubuntu-world> what u mean half a word?
[02:55] <intelikey> RoKFiT in the menu
[02:55] <flaccid_> anybody know a good smartmon howto
[02:55] <intelikey> i said not word.   but world
[02:55] <RoKFiT> this is what i have set for command
[02:55] <RoKFiT> konqueror profile filemanager
[02:56] <RoKFiT> and it loads with two tabs that say locate:profile and locate:filemanager
[02:56] <kubuntu-world> who can help me install xp on kubuntu so i can dubble partion?
[02:56] <Zabulus> alright, i tried using sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`, and got a response of E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:56] <plerk> i can help you
[02:56] <larson9999> RoKFiT: "konqueror --profile filemanagement"
[02:56] <kubuntu-world> thanx plerk
[02:56] <Zabulus> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:56] <kubuntu-world> so what i have to do 1 of all to start plerk?
[02:56] <intelikey> RoKFiT dash dash  --   see
[02:56] <RoKFiT> there it is
[02:57] <RoKFiT> no it was the filemanagement not filemanager
[02:57] <intelikey> RoKFiT but you can open konq to any startup and then in it's menu change what you see.
[02:57] <kubuntu-world> u there plerk?
[02:57] <plerk> one sec.
[02:57] <plerk> brb
[02:57] <kubuntu-world> thanx
[02:58] <RoKFiT> how do i change navigation panel to act like a "tree" view
[02:58] <SupremeBeing> abattoir: available?
[02:58] <kubuntu-world> who knows if the yahoo has web cam and mic as the one for xp?
[02:58] <intelikey> RoKFiT look at it's tabs.
[02:58] <Zabulus> can someone help me?
[02:58] <kubuntu-world> any one knows if yahoo linux has web cam and mic ?
[02:59] <RoKFiT> i am looking at the tabs
[02:59] <RoKFiT> no option
[02:59] <intelikey> Zabulus is  another process using it?
[02:59] <RoKFiT> just default view
[02:59] <Zabulus> i guess so
[02:59] <Zabulus> but i dont know what, and i dont know how to stop it
[02:59] <robotgeek> hmm, does anyone know offhand how to fix the "sudo timestamp too far in future"
[03:00] <intelikey> Zabulus ps -A x
[03:00] <intelikey> maybe filter for dpkg    ps -A x | grep dpkg
[03:00] <kubuntu-world> intel does yahoo for linux have a web cam and a mic like the one for xp?
[03:00] <intelikey> kubuntu-world i have no idea.
[03:01] <kubuntu-world> amsn does but no audio yet
[03:01] <intelikey> there should be info on their website
[03:01] <Zabulus> responnse of 6126 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep dpkg
[03:01] <kubuntu-world> why u don't want to help me intel btw?
[03:01] <intelikey> Zabulus ps -A x | grep adept
[03:02] <kubuntu-world> welcome back plerk so when u ready we can start
[03:02] <kubuntu-world> i really nead a dubble partion
[03:02] <kalm> hello
[03:02] <kubuntu-world> hi kalm
[03:03] <kubuntu-world> calm non eri quello di prima te'?
[03:03] <Zabulus> 5121 ?        S      0:01 adept_notifier        6128 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep adept
[03:03] <kalm> hey can you tell me... how do i make my system boot to kdm ? rather than the text mode login
[03:03] <intelikey> kubuntu-world i can't we don't speak the same language, i answer your question and you say " huh ? "   it's an exrocise in futility.    and then you ask thing that i don't know about and get angry because i don't answer....   sorry.  i just can't help you.
[03:04] <kalm> im multilingual
[03:04] <kalm> too
[03:04] <kalm>  :)
[03:04] <kubuntu-world> np
[03:04] <tobias> heya all! How do I make my portable hd which is formatted in evil ms format work in linux?
[03:04] <kubuntu-world> kalm mi puoi dare na mano?
[03:04] <intelikey> kalm id kdm installed ?
[03:04] <kubuntu-world> sono quello di prima
[03:05] <kalm> tobias is it usb?
[03:05] <tobias> kalm: yes
[03:05] <intelikey> err is
[03:05] <tobias> kalm: I mounted it, but it says I dont have rights to read it or something
[03:05] <BluesKaj> !it
[03:05] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:05] <kalm> ah in fstab write user under options
[03:06] <tobias> kamlm: what is fstab?
[03:06] <kalm> go nano /etc/fstab
[03:06] <kalm> to "automate" it
[03:07] <intelikey> Zabulus sorry i didn't see your post.    killall adept_notifier
[03:07] <kubuntu-world> so to install flash player i do apt-get install flash player right?
[03:07] <tobias> kalm: it is ntfs, so I write user under options? ok Ill try to find it :)
[03:07] <RoKFiT> i don't get why kontact makes all these separate .vcf files
[03:07] <RoKFiT> if it could be one file, someone could have it setup on their backup drive
[03:07] <intelikey> kubuntu-world wrong
[03:07] <RoKFiT> and not worry about backing it up
[03:08] <luis> Flash 9 appear today in the Dapper repository
[03:08] <tobias> kalm:user instead of defaults ?
[03:08] <kubuntu-world> well i can understand u now intel in this
[03:08] <RoKFiT> luis, how do i install it!!?!!
[03:08] <kubuntu-world> so how i have to do luis ?
[03:08] <plerk> hi im back
[03:08] <RoKFiT> 64bit?
[03:08] <kubuntu-world> yes
[03:08] <luis> Adept updater installed it for me
[03:08] <RoKFiT> ooh, how can i install it
[03:08] <RoKFiT> adept?
[03:08] <tobias> kalm: I delete the text "defaults" and replace it with "user" ?
[03:08] <kubuntu-world> ok plerk let's solve the major problem
[03:08] <tobias> Im scared to edit config files :)
[03:08] <kalm> tobias: yeah
[03:09] <tobias> kalm: thanks"
[03:09] <kubuntu-world> so i got the xp cd what i do now to install it on kubuntu plerk?
[03:09] <tobias> !
[03:09] <luis> If you don't have flash yet, you will probably have to accept some licence
[03:09] <kalm> user, auto
[03:09] <RoKFiT> luis, no updates
[03:09] <luis> so if you go to adept, click on details
[03:09] <RoKFiT> adept install it?
[03:10] <RoKFiT> what is it listed as?
[03:10] <kubuntu-world> damn im starting to get red for anger i feel so lost
[03:10] <RoKFiT> libflash?
[03:10] <luis> ok, type sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:10] <plerk> kbuntu world: can u dcc?
[03:10] <kubuntu-world> no
[03:10] <pacman> okay, supid question
[03:10] <kubuntu-world> but can read u here
[03:10] <kubuntu-world> as im not a reg user
[03:10] <plerk> this is better to do in a private channel
[03:10] <pacman> what's the command to see what active processes I have running
 okay, supid question << i like questions
[03:10] <kubuntu-world> im quite smart if u guide me so i think we can make it
[03:11] <robotgeek> pacman: ps -ef | less
[03:11] <Digital_Pioneer> Hey, I need someone who's familiar with the edgy alternate CD......
[03:11] <kubuntu-world> problem i can't pvt im not reg
[03:11] <intelikey> pacman top
[03:11] <tobias> kalm: should I remove all the other stuff tooo?
[03:11] <RoKFiT> luis, Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:11] <luis> pacman, try "top" or "ps ax"
[03:11] <intelikey> pacman man ps
[03:11] <plerk> just register, its easy. i just did it
[03:11] <Digital_Pioneer> I need to repair my Kubuntu... I think the shell is fried.
[03:11] <intelikey> pacman pstree is nice imo
[03:11] <luis> RoKFiT, maybe you're missing some repository in sources.list
[03:11] <tobias> kalm: it says "/dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0   $"
[03:11] <kubuntu-world> ok im not able to reg
[03:11] <kubuntu-world> can u help me from here?
[03:12] <Digital_Pioneer> PLEASE help?
[03:12] <pacman> thank you...for some reason VLC didn't close last time I "closed" it
[03:12] <plerk> just run: "/msg nickserv register <your password>"
[03:12] <tobias> kalm: sorry for being so slow :)
[03:12] <intelikey> pacman it down sizes to the task bar  ???
[03:12] <tobias> ok... I scared him away
[03:12] <Digital_Pioneer> Anyone???
[03:12] <pacman> no, it closes as far as on the desktop, but it kept running
[03:13] <Digital_Pioneer> I don't like to be impatient, but this isn't a trivial problem!!!
[03:13] <tobias> digital_pioneer: why are u like writing in caps and scaring of the help?
[03:13] <kubuntu-world> ok the best is u tell me here
[03:13] <Digital_Pioneer> tobias: Because my life depends on getting this thing working again!
[03:13] <RoKFiT> luis, i am on x86_64
[03:13] <kubuntu-world> couse to reg will take to long and im not able to
[03:13] <tobias> wow
[03:13] <tobias> someone help im
[03:13] <kubuntu-world> and my isp dosen't allow dcc
[03:13] <intelikey> Digital_Pioneer and who is going to kill you ?
[03:13] <tobias> u could just insert your cd you know
[03:13] <Digital_Pioneer> intelikey: My mom!
[03:13] <tobias> and reboot
[03:13] <plerk> then register?
[03:14] <luis> Ah, ok, maybe that's a problem RoKFiT. I don't know how to make it work then
[03:14] <plerk> just run: "/msg nickserv register <your password>"
[03:14] <tobias> digital_pioneer: u know u insert the cd and boot it and stuff happens
[03:14] <Digital_Pioneer> tobias: I'd like to consider reinstalling and losing everything I have a last resort.
[03:14] <plerk>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[03:14] <intelikey> hmmm well lets see if we can keep 'mom' out of prison shall we Digital_Pioneer
[03:14] <tobias> digital_pioneer: u dont reinstall it u know,..... there is a repair option or something
[03:14] <intelikey> what is the issue?
[03:14] <Digital_Pioneer> tobias: I'm in the recovery area of the alternate CD.
[03:14] <tobias> digital_pioneer: then push the recover button
[03:15] <tobias> digital_pioneer: or something
[03:15] <kubuntu-world> ok done thanx
[03:15] <tobias> digital_pioneer: it should be pretty straight forward
[03:15] <SupremeBeing> can anyone walk me through getting  fglrx to work?
[03:15] <tobias> intelikey: he needs to repair his installation
[03:15] <intelikey> tobias i bet that would totally hose my working install
[03:16] <intelikey> that automated recovery thingy
[03:16] <tobias> intelikey: oh, Im sorry I just thought that was how it was done since last time I did it everything was the same for me...
[03:16] <Digital_Pioneer> tobias: I'm in the recovery menu!
[03:16] <tobias> intelikey: but it was xubuntu
[03:16] <tobias> intelikey: should be the same stuff though
[03:16] <Digital_Pioneer> tobias: But I don't know what to do. There's no "reinstall the shell" option.
[03:16] <Digital_Pioneer> And my mom's in here screaming at me.
[03:17] <tobias> intelikey: save the poor soul :)
[03:17] <intelikey> Digital_Pioneer please as your mom to be quiet or leave the room so you can fix this....     or just let her read this post and say nothing...
[03:18] <Digital_Pioneer> She's gone....
[03:18] <intelikey> Digital_Pioneer tell me what the problem is.  as best as you can describe it.
[03:18] <Digital_Pioneer> Now she's telling my sister what an evil cyberdemon I am.
[03:18] <Digital_Pioneer> intelikey: OK, I boot into Kubuntu. It starts up, OK... KDM doesn't start.
[03:18] <Digital_Pioneer> Then, I switch to tty1.
[03:18] <Digital_Pioneer> Login as root.
[03:19] <Digital_Pioneer> And no commands work.
[03:19] <Digital_Pioneer> make, jam, aptitude, etc.
[03:19] <Digital_Pioneer> All say "command not found"
[03:19] <Digital_Pioneer> All I can find to work is reboot and cd.
[03:19] <robotgeek> /usr/bin/make , maybe?
[03:19] <politik> Digital_Pioneer: dmesg?
[03:19] <Digital_Pioneer> So either the shell's broke, or /usr/bin got deleted.
[03:19] <Digital_Pioneer> politik: That's one more that works.
[03:19] <politik> nothing interesting there though?
[03:19] <intelikey> sounds like a PATH problem.
[03:20] <Digital_Pioneer> But I don't think it has a shell....
[03:20] <politik> this kind of thing happened to me recently, turned out to be a broken HD
[03:20] <Digital_Pioneer> The recovery disk can't even find the shell.
[03:20] <Digital_Pioneer> My HD is fine...
[03:20] <RoKFiT> bbl
[03:20] <Digital_Pioneer> Knoppix reads it just fine.
[03:20] <intelikey> Digital_Pioneer ok do you have the hd mounted ?
[03:21] <Digital_Pioneer> intelikey: I'm not on the HD.
[03:21] <intelikey> i know that
[03:21] <intelikey>  is it mounted some place ?
[03:22] <Digital_Pioneer> I don't think so.
[03:22] <intelikey> ok lets mount it and look around shall we.
[03:22] <tobias> damn, I deleted those things in fstab and now it says my line 6 in fstab is evil
[03:23] <intelikey> tobias what is line 6 ?
[03:23] <tobias> intelikey: "/dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    user, auto 0       1"
[03:23] <Digital_Pioneer> OK, I've gotta figure out how to hook up a shell to it.
[03:23] <intelikey> yep it is.
[03:23] <tobias> :)
[03:23] <tobias> good
[03:23] <Digital_Pioneer> "No usable shell found in /dev/hda1"
[03:23] <tobias> everyone agrees
[03:23] <coreymon77> hi guys
[03:23] <intelikey> tobias extra space...  user, auto
[03:23] <tobias> aha!
[03:23] <tobias> thanks
[03:24] <intelikey> should be  user,auto
[03:24] <coreymon77> it there any way to modify keyboard layouts
[03:24] <coreymon77> such as a program you can get off of apt
[03:24] <intelikey> Digital_Pioneer hook up a shell ?
[03:24] <Digital_Pioneer> coreymon77: Try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:24] <Digital_Pioneer> intelikey: My root drive is /dev/hda1. It doesn't have a shell.
[03:24] <tobias> intelikey: thanks u are brilliant:D
[03:24] <intelikey> Digital_Pioneer so
[03:24] <tobias> intelikey: but it still doesnt want to read it cus its ntfs i think
[03:25] <Digital_Pioneer> intelikey: So?
[03:25] <Digital_Pioneer> tobias: For NTFS, I recommend ntfs-3g
[03:25] <intelikey> Digital_Pioneer what are you calling a "shell" ?
[03:25] <Digital_Pioneer> intelikey: The command line.
[03:25] <Digital_Pioneer> If that's wrong, please correct me.
[03:25] <tobias> digital: I write "ntfs-3g" instead of "ntfs"
[03:25] <tobias> ?
[03:25] <tobias> Digital_Pioneer: even :)
[03:26] <Digital_Pioneer> tobias: No, it's a program to handle ntfs.
[03:26] <tobias> I got the power of tab
[03:26] <tobias> oh
[03:26] <intelikey> no that's correct.  but again i say   so mount the partition.
[03:26] <Digital_Pioneer> tobias: Google it.
[03:26] <tobias> Digital_Pioneer: its not in adept?
[03:26] <Digital_Pioneer> tobias: Might be... But I'd use apt-cache search ntfs3g.
[03:26] <Digital_Pioneer> tobias: It seems to search more than adept does.
[03:26] <tobias> oki thanks :)
[03:27] <Zabulus> whats the source-directory? and how do i get there?
[03:27] <tobias> I got kwikdisk though maybe that works
[03:27] <coreymon77> Digital_Pioneer: i dont want to mess around with things too much, i just want to modify the hebrew phonetic layout a bit
[03:27] <intelikey> Digital_Pioneer are you saying that there is no console shell running on the system you are talking to me on ?
[03:27] <Digital_Pioneer> coreymon77: That command goes through keyboard layouts eventually.
[03:28] <Digital_Pioneer> intelikey: No.
[03:28] <tobias> if it says I dont have access rights... what does that mean?
[03:28] <tobias> that it cant handle ntfs? I managed to use ntfs stuff before.. strange
[03:28] <Digital_Pioneer> intelikey: I'm talking to you from Windoze... On a laptop. My desktop is broken.
[03:28] <Digital_Pioneer> tobias: You can't get write on NTFS with current software.
[03:28] <Digital_Pioneer> tobias: You need ntfs-3g.
[03:28] <tobias> Digital_Pioneer: but it wont even let me read
[03:28] <intelikey> ok on the desktop   boot a linux cd ?
[03:29] <Digital_Pioneer> intelikey: The desktop is currently booted from the alternat CD.
[03:29] <coreymon77> Digital_Pioneer: does that muck around with/reset any of my other settings?
[03:29] <intelikey> ok use alt+ctrl+f2  and see if there is a console running Digital_Pioneer
[03:30] <Digital_Pioneer> coreymon77: Shouldn't if you leave it at defaults. But it should make a backup config after it's done.
[03:30] <Digital_Pioneer> intelikey: ...
[03:30] <intelikey> well ?
[03:30] <coreymon77> i dont want ot mess around with things
[03:30] <doobledilly> howdy, im getting now soundcard found when i type aplay -l  :: im following this guide, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[03:30] <doobledilly> when i type modprobe snd- and press tab like it says nothing happens
[03:30] <Zabulus> ok, i got to the part where i start running "make" commands on this page http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation
[03:31] <doobledilly> *no
[03:31] <Zabulus> but i get errors trying to use make
[03:31] <Digital_Pioneer> intelikey: Nope, that's the shell on the CD.
[03:31] <coreymon77> so is there any sort of keyboard layout editor/creator/modifier program that i can download
[03:31] <intelikey> Digital_Pioneer you really have no clue what you are saying do you ?
[03:31] <Digital_Pioneer> intelikey: When I tell the CD I want to use the shell on the hard drive, it says there isn't a usable one.
[03:31] <intelikey> and how are you telling it that ?
[03:32] <Digital_Pioneer> intelikey: The CD is like it's own little installation. It has a /dev, /usr, /etc... All its own.
[03:32] <Digital_Pioneer> Apart from the computers.
[03:32] <Digital_Pioneer> Its tty consoles all use that!
 Apart from the computers. <--- hehhe
[03:32] <Digital_Pioneer> intelikey: Have you used the alternate CD?
[03:32] <tobias> Im confused
[03:32] <tobias> :)
[03:33] <Zabulus> how do i use "make" commands so i can install ndiswrapper???
[03:33] <intelikey> "but the hd doesn't have a shell" yeah right.  now if you're finished showing what you don't know,,,   and are ready to listen i'll try to help you.
[03:34] <intelikey> else i finished messing with a dumb punk that knows everything.
[03:34] <Digital_Pioneer> Zabulus: You have source?
[03:34] <Zabulus> ...
[03:34] <Zabulus> yeah, im new to linux, i have no clue
[03:34] <Digital_Pioneer> intelikey: Fine, what do you want me to do?
[03:34] <intelikey> Digital_Pioneer are you ready to listen?
[03:34] <Digital_Pioneer> intelikey: Yes.
[03:34] <Digital_Pioneer> intelikey: Are you?
[03:35] <intelikey> Digital_Pioneer sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[03:35] <intelikey> if /mnt isn't there make it
[03:35] <coreymon77> Digital_Pioneer: what kind of settings are kept in the xserver.conf file?
[03:35] <coreymon77> i mean
[03:35] <Zabulus> how do i know if i have source? and if i dont, how do i get it?
[03:35] <Digital_Pioneer> coreymon77: No clue.
[03:35] <coreymon77> the xserver-xorg file
[03:35] <Digital_Pioneer> Zabulus: ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net
[03:36] <intelikey> Digital_Pioneer did that return without error ?
[03:36] <Digital_Pioneer> intelikey: Hold one.
[03:36] <intelikey> fine i finished.
[03:36] <airfoil> hi! how to install additional package from dvd?
[03:36] <plerk> how do i get flash 9?
[03:36] <Digital_Pioneer> intelikey: Yes, it went without error.
[03:36] <intelikey> to bad you blew it.
[03:37] <intelikey> let someone else help you.
[03:37] <Digital_Pioneer> intelikey: Because I said wait a sec?
[03:37] <Digital_Pioneer> Short fuse.
[03:37] <tobias> intelikey: might my portable usb hd be formatted in a different format than ntfs, or is it detected automatically, it says ntfs in fstab, maybe its fat32 or something, could this be why it wont let me see the stuff on it even when its mounted? :)
[03:37] <Digital_Pioneer> tobias: It's probably fat*.
[03:37] <SupremeBeing> Anybody familiar with fglrx?
[03:38] <tobias> Digital_Pioneer: but it says I dont have rights to read it for somet bizzare reason.
[03:38] <intelikey> come in here crying about 'my mom is going to kill me' then teach us all that you know about linux    which amounts to very little.  and my patients get real thin along about there....  then i gave you one more chance, and what do you do     you ignore me.  fine.  you are igonred too.
[03:38] <Zabulus> ok, how do i get source???
[03:39] <Digital_Pioneer> intelikey: You don't know what I'm working with!
[03:40] <intelikey> tobias it could be yes.
[03:40] <tobias> intelikey: and fat is not supported maybe?
[03:40] <intelikey> tobias sudo fdisk -l
[03:40] <luis> plerk, if you don't have x86_64, just apt-get it
[03:40] <tobias> aha!
[03:40] <tobias> cool
[03:40] <airfoil_> hi! how to install additional package from dvd?
[03:40] <intelikey> tobias that will list the partition type
[03:40] <tobias> intelikey: it says "HPFS/NTFS"
[03:41] <intelikey> now check the fs type by either fsck or mount
[03:41] <Homer> KDE 4 is out!
[03:41] <fildo> no way Homer!
[03:41] <tobias> aha
[03:41] <Homer> j/k
[03:41] <airfoil_> hi! how to install additional package from dvd?
[03:42] <Digital_Pioneer> Oh, HALLELUJAH! It's reinstalling the base system!
[03:42] <airfoil_> Digital_Pioneer: u reply my question?
[03:42] <robotgeek> airfoil_: browse cdrom, right click page and install?
[03:43] <Digital_Pioneer> airfoil_: Which one?
[03:43] <robotgeek> or you can use the apt-cdrom tool
[03:43] <intelikey> tobias something like sudo mount /dev/hda8 /media -t vfat    *use the reall device*
[03:43] <Digital_Pioneer> airfoil_: Oh, do what robogeek says. :)
[03:43] <tobias> intelikey: it says something about running fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause severe filesystem damage, this means I should unmount it maybe?
[03:43] <airfoil_> i have kubuntu dvd but after installed i notice it only install few packages.
[03:43] <intelikey> tobias umount it first.
[03:43] <tobias> intelikey: oki :)
[03:43] <airfoil_> okay. i am trying now
[03:44] <luis> Hey Plerk, Apparently I can not send you a private msg cause I'm unregistered
[03:44] <Digital_Pioneer> airfoil_: Check /etc/apt/sources.list. What's in it?
[03:44] <robotgeek> !register > luis
[03:45] <CaseyOmah> I'm having issues running ANY "Big Fish Games" in Wine or Cedega.
[03:46] <tobias> intelikey: I wrote "fsck /dev/sda1" and it said "fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found"
[03:46] <CaseyOmah> Any suggestions for running "Big Fish Games" in Kubuntu Edgy?
[03:46] <tobias> intelikey: that means its not ntfs really?
[03:46] <Zabulus> is /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build the source directory?
[03:46] <tobias> intelikey: i feel like im learning :D
[03:47] <tobias> this is nice stuff
[03:47] <intelikey> tobias no that means you dont have the ntfsutils package installed.    ok try the mount command    sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -o umask=000
[03:48] <intelikey> lets see if you get an error
[03:48] <tobias> no error!
[03:48] <airfoil_> Digital_Pioneer: How to set repositories list in adept manager to point to my dvdrom?
[03:48] <tobias> it worked!
[03:48] <tobias> :D
[03:48] <tobias> intelikey: thanks again
[03:49] <Zabulus> is /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build the source directory?
[03:49] <intelikey> tobias and you see everything ok...
[03:49] <tobias> yupp! :)
[03:49] <Digital_Pioneer> airfoil_: I'd use APT. Not sure which one, though.
[03:49] <tobias> I should try to find out what I did
[03:49] <intelikey> tobias do this   grep ntfs /etc/fstab
[03:49] <intelikey> lets see what it says
[03:50] <tobias> intelikey: /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    user,auto 0       1
[03:50] <airfoil_> Digital_Pioneer: I try to edit /etc/apt/source.list but duno how to set the url to my local dvdrom
[03:50] <tobias> Im not sure I understand what the problem was
[03:50] <intelikey> tobias ok you need to edit that file.
[03:50] <tobias> ok
[03:50] <intelikey> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:50] <airfoil_> Digital_Pioneer: how to use APT?
[03:50] <Digital_Pioneer> airfoil_: Why use the DVD anyways?
[03:51] <tobias> intelikey: oki
[03:51] <luiss> I agree with that. Why would you want to use the DVD
[03:51] <luiss> The DVD is most likely outdated already
[03:51] <airfoil_> Digital_Pioneer: I try to use resipotories but it seem to be unstable.
[03:51] <Digital_Pioneer> airfoil_: I recommend finding your package on packages.ubuntulinux.org then.
[03:51] <Zabulus> is /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build the source directory?
[03:52] <airfoil_> Digital_Pioneer: I know but i am fed up with doing reset repositories.
[03:52] <intelikey> tobias make the line "/dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs user,auto 0 0"    look like  "/dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ntfs default,fmask=111,dmask=000,auto 0 0"
[03:52] <airfoil_> very annoy
[03:52] <Digital_Pioneer> airfoil_: LOL... Can't really help you then.
[03:53] <billytwowilly> how do I unlock /var/cache/debconf/config.dat ?
[03:53] <airfoil_> Digital_Pioneer: Why i always lost connection with repositories?
[03:53] <robotgeek> billytwowilly: lsof /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[03:53] <Zabulus> is /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build the source directory?
[03:53] <Zabulus> is /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build the source directory?
[03:53] <intelikey> tobias now at the bottom of the nano editor see the guidance the ^ means the control key  so ^X  means  crtl+X   to exit and say yes  to the save question.
[03:53] <Digital_Pioneer> airfoil_: I'm no expert, as I'm sure intelikey will more than happily testify. I'm not really sure.
[03:54] <airfoil_> intelikey: Why i always lost connection with repositories?
[03:54] <billytwowilly> robotgeek: thanks
[03:54] <airfoil_> intelikey: Please help
[03:54] <intelikey> airfoil_ i don't know.  pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:54] <Zabulus> ANYONE:   is /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build the source directory?
[03:55] <intelikey> Zabulus should be a symlink to it yes
[03:55] <Digital_Pioneer> Zabulus: Source of what?
[03:56] <Zabulus> i dont know, im trying to install ndiswrapper, it says go to the source directory and run
[03:56] <Zabulus> make commands
[03:56] <intelikey> !ndiswapper
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndiswapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <tobias> intelikey: and now I try to turn it off and on to see if it works? I used copy paste like a ninja
[03:56] <intelikey> !ndiswrapper
[03:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:56] <luiss> I think it means the source directory of ndiswrapper, not the kernel source
[03:57] <luiss> I think
[03:57] <Digital_Pioneer> Zabulus: Check if you have it intalled: "modprobe ndiswrapper" See if that throws error.
[03:57] <CaseyOmah> Anybody able to make Big Fish Games work with a Linux boot (VMWare/Wine/Cedega/etc...)?
[03:57] <intelikey> tobias if you want to test it you can.    but may i ask is that a usb interfaced drive ?
[03:57] <Zabulus> modprobe errored
[03:57] <tobias> intelikey: yupp
[03:58] <airfoil_> root@laptop-kubuntu:/etc/apt# cat sources.list
[03:58] <airfoil_> /media/cdrom0/ubuntu/pool
[03:58] <airfoil_> # deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[03:58] <airfoil_> # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multive
[03:58] <airfoil_> rse
[03:58] <airfoil_> # deb http://my.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
[03:58] <tobias> intelikey: its a hd inside a box with wires going to something inside the box and then a usb line going to the compute
[03:58] <tobias> r
[03:58] <tobias> intelikey: Im not sure what interfaced means
[03:58] <CaseyOmah> !paste
[03:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:58] <intelikey> tobias so you wont be unpluging it often ?
[03:59] <CaseyOmah> !paste > airfoil_
[03:59] <tobias> intelikey: well, Ill probably unplug it often cause I like to carry it around and get peoples stuff on it and bring it back
[03:59] <tobias> intelikey: will that mess stuff up?
[04:00] <intelikey> tobias reason i asked, in place of defaults,  we should have said  user,users,noauto,      if it's going to be absent at boot time.
[04:00] <airfoil_> sorry!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:00] <tobias> intelikey: aha
[04:00] <tobias> intelikey: aha
[04:00] <tobias> intelikey: sorry for the double aha
[04:00] <CaseyOmah> airfoil_: So long as you learn from your mistakes. :)
[04:00] <intelikey> tobias i just noticed that it was on a usb device node and thought i should ask.
[04:00] <intelikey> so sudo nano /etc/fstab     and correct that
[04:01] <tobias> intelikey: if it boots without the device than the fstab will automatically be configured back to something strange?
[04:01] <intelikey> tobias shouldn't be.    but it will give errors and a longer than normal boot time.
[04:01] <tobias> intelikey: I dont mind, as long as I can just plug it in and that it works :)
[04:01] <CaseyOmah> Why do people say you shouldn't hand edit fstab (or mtab)?
[04:02] <tobias> intelikey: if noauto means I have to mount everytime then its better with auto maybe?
[04:02] <Digital_Pioneer> OK, I GIVE UP! I'm going to simply reinstall Kubuntu.
[04:02] <tobias> Digital_Pioneer: push the repair button
[04:02] <tobias> Digital_Pioneer: it worked for me
[04:02] <intelikey> tobias it probably wont be as simple as plug it in and read it...  but plug it in, issue one command and then read it....
[04:02] <Digital_Pioneer> tobias: Repair button on what?
[04:03] <tobias> Digital_Pioneer: isnt there a fix everything thing when u boot the cd? I dont remember the exact command but something...
[04:03] <intelikey> tobias test it and see.   if you don't like it, we'll do something else.
[04:03] <Digital_Pioneer> tobias: Which CD?
[04:03] <CaseyOmah> Digital_Pioneer: Live CD
[04:03] <tobias> intelikey: thanks :)
[04:03] <Digital_Pioneer> CaseyOmah: Live, or Alternate?
[04:04] <CaseyOmah> Digital_Pioneer: Do you want normal or OEM (pre-final user)?
[04:04] <Zabulus> alright, lets see who can help... im trying to get my wireless USB internet working, at this point im trying to install ndiswrapper using this site as a guide (http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation)
[04:04] <tobias> intelikey: it says that only root can mount it?
[04:04] <Zabulus> im to the part where im using make commands, but i cant get them to work
[04:05] <Digital_Pioneer> CaseyOmah: Final.
[04:05] <CaseyOmah> Zabulus: I didn't need ndiswrapper to make my Dlink USB Wireless work.
[04:05] <CaseyOmah> Digital_Pioneer: Then "Desktop" A.K.A. Live CD.
[04:06] <intelikey> tobias yes that's the point i was making.    it's supposed to be 'always mounted'  the way i set it.   you can add  user,users,  to the options  if you want.
[04:06] <Zabulus> CaseOmah: how did you get it to work?
[04:06] <airfoil_> intelikey: I try to install firefox using package from dvd. it halted due to missing libmyspell3c2. where can i get that lib?
[04:07] <CaseyOmah> Zabulus: Honestly, I didn't, Kubuntu did, Plug and Play.
[04:07] <tobias> intelikey: aha :)
[04:07] <intelikey> tobias  you know how to edit your fstab now... :)
[04:07] <intelikey> !libmyspell3c2
[04:07] <Zabulus> CaseyOmah: i wish that had worked for me
[04:07] <ubotu> libmyspell3c2: MySpell spellchecking library. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.1-16 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 124 kB
[04:07] <CaseyOmah> Zabulus: Sorry, it was a linksys.
[04:07] <Zabulus> mine is a netgear wpn111
[04:08] <CaseyOmah> Zabulus: WUSB54Gv4
[04:08] <intelikey> airfoil_ that's in edgy main   should be on the cd
[04:08] <tobias> intelikey: yes thanks to u :)
[04:08] <airfoil_> intelikey: i can't find it. damn.............
[04:08] <tiptip> little question, i'm working by a "howto" http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html   and the guy there use package key for the repositories , i know how to do that on ubuntu but how i do it on kubuntu ??
[04:08] <tobias> intelikey: I just remove default and add "user,users, instead rite?
[04:08] <intelikey> tobias if you want to learn how fstab works you can read   man fstab    and   man mount
[04:08] <tobias> aha
[04:08] <tobias> cool
[04:08] <intelikey> right.
[04:08] <tobias> goodie
[04:08] <tobias> thanx
[04:09] <luiss> Hey Zabulus, by source-directory, it definitely means the source of ndiswrapper
[04:09] <Zabulus> ok, but where is that?
[04:09] <Digital_Pioneer> Zabulus: You need to download it.
[04:09] <Zabulus> from where?
[04:09] <CaseyOmah> tobias: For a friendly man page reader, use Konqueror and type man:<command>
[04:09] <intelikey> tobias note; a comma seperated list does not contain blanks.   a common mistake is to use the space bar in a configuration file.
[04:09] <tobias> oki!
[04:09] <Digital_Pioneer> Zabulus: sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper
[04:09] <luiss> wherever you decompressed the file you got from the web
[04:10] <tobias> it woooorks!
[04:10] <tobias> woooo
[04:10] <Digital_Pioneer> luiss: He hasn't gotten the source yet.
[04:10] <intelikey> it's supposed to
[04:10] <tobias> kubunt - it just worKs!
[04:10] <coreymon77> which card?
[04:10] <luiss> Oh, I see
[04:10] <tobias> Im turning into a hacker now
[04:10] <coreymon77> what network card?
[04:10] <intelikey> tobias you can    cp /etc/fstab .   for a backup and if you have trubble just copy it over
[04:10] <luiss> no wonder why it does not compile :)
[04:10] <airfoil_> intelikey: i found it.
[04:10] <CaseyOmah> Zabulus: I haven't tried that adapter, I don't even have one laying around.
[04:10] <tobias> oki, thanks intelikey :)
[04:10] <CaseyOmah> Zabulus: Sorry.
[04:11] <intelikey> ok i'm out for a while.
[04:11] <coreymon77> what tpye of network card is it?
[04:11] <Digital_Pioneer> OK, can someone tell me how to configure my installation to put EVERYTHING including programs, settings, and personal files into /home?
[04:12] <Digital_Pioneer> I want /home to be a separate partition and safe from system failures.
[04:12] <coreymon77> it is
[04:12] <Zabulus> i have a netgear wpn111
[04:12] <CaseyOmah> coreymon77: Zabulus is using a NetGear WPN111 USB Wireless.
[04:12] <coreymon77> chipset?
[04:12] <Digital_Pioneer> Partitioning it off, I can do. Keeping my settings and programs there is something I don't know how to do.
[04:12] <coreymon77> CaseyOmah: what chipset?
[04:13] <CaseyOmah> coreymon77: I don't know.
[04:13] <Zabulus> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 1385:5f01
[04:13] <unix_infidel> Digital_Pioneer: you decide where personal files go, as per user specific settings they automatically go into $HOME
[04:13] <unix_infidel> system settings need to be backed up by the admin.
[04:13] <CaseyOmah> Digital_Pioneer: You don't want EVERYTHING in home.
[04:13] <TehKewl1> gah why can't I run stuff in openGL anymore
[04:13] <corin> What does FATAL: Could not open...../fglrx.ko No such file or directory indicate?
[04:13] <corin> Fglrx isn't installed?
[04:14] <coreymon77> and zabulus needs to use ndiswrapper?
[04:14] <TehKewl1> it is
[04:14] <Digital_Pioneer> CaseyOmah: I want my stuff to be safe, in case this happens again and I have to reinstall Kubuntu.
[04:14] <coreymon77> cause you shouldnt if you dont need to
[04:14] <coreymon77> Digital_Pioneer: still, your /home directory isnt made for that
[04:14] <Zabulus> i cant find any other way
[04:14] <coreymon77> if you need to
[04:14] <coreymon77> go ahead
[04:14] <CaseyOmah> Digital_Pioneer: Then you definately DON'T want most of your stuff in home, that's the least safe of all places in Linux.
[04:15] <luiss> hey coreymon77, what is the problem of ndiswrapper compared to native drivers?
[04:15] <coreymon77> but it is a little unstable
[04:15] <coreymon77> ndiswrapper is a little unstable
[04:15] <coreymon77> ive used it before, i know from experience
[04:15] <luiss> I have ndiswrapper in one computer
[04:15] <luiss> and native drivers in the other
[04:16] <luiss> both were a pain in the ass to install. Neither is totally flawless.
[04:16] <Zabulus> well, if anyone can tell me an easier way, ill glady try it, but i checked netgear website and they didnt have linux drivers, and plug and play didnt work
[04:16] <coreymon77> im not saying ndiswrapper doesnt work
[04:16] <coreymon77> but its a pain
[04:16] <luiss> but I guess it depends on the chipset and how the linux drivers are made
[04:16] <coreymon77> yes exactly
[04:16] <CaseyOmah> I know not to ask to ask, but just ask, but nobody pays me any mind. I'm trying to run BigFishGames (.com) games inside Linux (any way possible)?
[04:17] <coreymon77> when it comes to linux compatibility, chipset is everything
[04:17] <CaseyOmah> coreymon77: You got that right.
[04:17] <coreymon77> CaseyOmah: wine, crossover office, cedega (if you are willing to pay for it)
[04:18] <luiss> You can try ndiswrapper Zabulus, it should work
[04:18] <Zabulus> ...
[04:18] <angasule> CaseyOmah: are they flash games? in that case, yes
[04:18] <luiss> Have you downloaded the sources already?
[04:18] <Zabulus> i cant get ndiswrapper to install
[04:18] <coreymon77> Zabulus: im not saying that ndiswrapper doesnt work and you should never use it (i had to use it myself for a while)
[04:18] <CaseyOmah> coreymon77: Tried wine and Cedega to no avail.
[04:18] <CaseyOmah> angasule: No, they are Win32 native.
[04:18] <Zabulus> im not sure if i have the sources
[04:19] <Zabulus> i dont know how to tell
[04:19] <angasule> CaseyOmah: ah, then try them out with wine, they might or might not work
[04:19] <luiss> In the howto you mentioned, follow the "Downloading" section. Do not go for "bleeding edge"
[04:19] <Zabulus> i didnt, i went for stable
[04:19] <CaseyOmah> angasule: Wine and Cedega have been attempted. install fine, then fail to open the actual program.
[04:20] <Zabulus> but i get to the part of the howto where i need to use "make" commands and get stuck
[04:20] <coreymon77> why are you guys telling him to get the ndiswrapper source
[04:20] <angasule> CaseyOmah: well, then I guess they don't work
[04:20] <coreymon77> ndiswrapper is available on apt
[04:20] <coreymon77> there is even a graphical frontend for it
[04:20] <CaseyOmah> angasule: Should I attempt a VMWare installation?
[04:21] <coreymon77> Zabulus: you can get ndiswrapper from apt
[04:21] <luiss> Well, coreymon77, that's an idea
[04:21] <coreymon77> there is even a graphical frontend for it on apt
[04:22] <Zabulus> coreymonn77: whats the command?
[04:22] <angasule> CaseyOmah: you can give that a shot, I guess, it's your time to use :) it's more likely to work than wine, too, but why do you have to run those games? no chance of finding a similar one that works natively?
[04:22] <Digital_Pioneer> OK, I was hoping it wouldn't come to this, but it has. Time for total data loss.
[04:22] <TehKewl1> is there a package to handle Dell latitude shortcut keys?
[04:22] <coreymon77> Digital_Pioneer: you can kepp your home directory
[04:22] <Agent_bob> oh my.   my clock was off by 0.0009 seconds... over 3 days.  :)
[04:23] <coreymon77> it will keep all of your personal settiings
[04:23] <Digital_Pioneer> coreymon77: This time, it's partitioned off from /.
[04:23] <Digital_Pioneer> coreymon77: So is /usr.
[04:23] <Digital_Pioneer> coreymon77: My old /home was backed up.
[04:23] <TehKewl1> ah I found it
[04:23] <TehKewl1> nvm
[04:23] <Digital_Pioneer> coreymon77: I did that as soon as it went south. Knoppix could still access it.
[04:23] <coreymon77> you dont have to format it on kubuntu reinstall
[04:23] <CaseyOmah> angasule: Unfortunately they are not mine to disregard, I'm troubleshooting for my sister who is a newly converted M$ user and is trying to stay out of the M$ multi-boot as much as possible.
[04:23] <luiss> I guess it is probably apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[04:24] <coreymon77> luiss: i would assume
[04:24] <BetaCookies> I think I smell linux!
[04:24] <CaseyOmah> angasule: Plus when they releasse a new game every day it's not likely that all of them will be findable in native clones.
[04:24] <coreymon77> you would probably want the the ndiswrapper-common package too
[04:25] <coreymon77> and ndisgtk is the name of the graphical frontend package
[04:25] <angasule> CaseyOmah: hmm, that's a pain, sorry to hear
[04:25] <Zabulus> E: Couldn't find package ndiswrapper-common
[04:26] <Zabulus> apt-get install ndisgtk
[04:26] <Digital_Pioneer> Zabulus: Just compile it yourself!
[04:26] <Zabulus> ...
[04:26] <coreymon77> ndiswrapper-common
[04:26] <Zabulus> THATS WHAT IVE BEEN TRYING!!!
[04:26] <CaseyOmah> angasule: Aprox. what do you think the chances are with VMWare?
[04:26] <coreymon77> Digital_Pioneer: why the hell would you compile it yourself when its available on apt!!!
[04:26] <coreymon77> thats completely idiotic!
[04:26] <angasule> CaseyOmah: very good, actually, since you're actually running windows in there, it won't be a pretty solution, though
[04:27] <luiss> I cannot find ndiswrapper-common in my repositories either
[04:27] <brohism> i can't get the System Settings display & monitor page to apply my changes
[04:27] <coreymon77> okay
[04:27] <Lam_> actually, the ndiswrapper version on apt is like, super outdated
[04:27] <coreymon77> look
[04:27] <CaseyOmah> coreymon77: I bet he wouldn't bother compliling if you could be so kind as to tell him which package names he needs.
[04:27] <Lam_> ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[04:27] <coreymon77> i have
[04:27] <coreymon77> he doesnt seem to have he packages
[04:27] <coreymon77> thats on aot Lam_
[04:27] <Lam_> or just 'apt-cache search ndiswrapper'
[04:27] <Digital_Pioneer> Zabulus: Did you download the source?
[04:27] <SupremeBeing> fglrx help wanted
[04:28] <CaseyOmah> angasule: Thanks, next time I'm over there I'll get VMWare up ang running and give it a shot.
[04:28] <coreymon77> okay look Zabulus, im gonna post my apt sources.list file up on pastebin
[04:28] <angasule> CaseyOmah: good luck
[04:28] <coreymon77> you replace yours with mine
[04:28] <CaseyOmah> angasule: Thanks, and thanks.
[04:28] <coreymon77> run sudo apt-get update
[04:28] <angasule> CaseyOmah: you're welcome
[04:28] <SupremeBeing> angasule: are you familiar with fglrx?
[04:28] <Lam_> SupremeBeing: it's better to just ask the question.
[04:29] <SupremeBeing> Lam_: ok, sorry
[04:29] <angasule> SupremeBeing: that's the ATI closed driver? not at all
[04:29] <coreymon77> and then install ndiswrapper-utils-1.8 , ndiswrapper-common and ndisgtk
[04:29] <coreymon77> is that okay zabulus?
[04:29] <SupremeBeing> I'm trying to install  fglrx, and when I run the aticonfig --initial command to creat the xorg.conf entry , it errors writing failed, bad file descriptor
[04:29] <oem> how do i set up my 3d desktop swicther?
[04:30] <Lam_> SupremeBeing: that means that the xorg.conf file was modified before, and didn't update the md5 hash
[04:30] <coreymon77> Zabulus: is your name registered with nickserv?
[04:30] <jasj> hi
[04:30] <Zabulus> yes
[04:30] <SupremeBeing> Lam_: How do I fix it?  I don't have to reinstall do I
[04:30] <Lam_> SupremeBeing: but, you can easily go into xorg.conf, find the Video Device section, and change the Driver to "fglrx" isntead of "ati" and it'll be the same as if you had ran the command
[04:30] <SupremeBeing> Lam_: I've done that, and fglrx still fails to work
[04:30] <jasj> i wish install mplayer. somebody know how???
[04:30] <SupremeBeing> Lam_: I've been working on this for about 4 hours.
[04:31] <Lam_> SupremeBeing: are you on an HP dv-series laptop with an AMD chipset by any chance?
[04:31] <oem> any one know aboute 3ddesktop?
[04:31] <SupremeBeing> Lam_: Negative, Pentium 4 Desktop
[04:31] <oem> it was one of the first few things in adept
[04:31] <Lam_> SupremeBeing: try adding "fglrx" into the /etc/modules file
[04:32] <SupremeBeing> Lam_: one moment
[04:32] <Lam_> SupremeBeing: fglrx is a pain in the ass to set up correctly. it's rare you'll get it to work the first time around, so i might just be spitting out suggestions that may or may not work
[04:32] <Lam_> SupremeBeing: hell, it's rare you'll even get it to work
[04:32] <SupremeBeing> Lam_: Wow =P great... Why the hell did I buy ATI... I added that line
[04:33] <SupremeBeing> Lam_: Should I restart now?
[04:33] <Lam_> SupremeBeing: yeah
[04:33] <Lam_> SupremeBeing: hopefully it'll work
[04:33] <SupremeBeing> Lam_: PC or just X
[04:33] <Lam_> SupremeBeing: PC just to be safe. X doesn't always restart cleanly for some reason
[04:33] <Agent_bob> priceless "Why the hell did I buy ATI"  hindsight
[04:34] <SupremeBeing> Lam_: OK.  be back in a minute
[04:34] <SupremeBeing> Agent_bob: Lol. been having that since i realized I paid 50 bucks more than the equivalent card from nvidia...
[04:34] <SupremeBeing> Agent_bob: Lessons learned..
[04:34] <Agent_bob> Lam_ pc but of the reason the /etc/modules wouldn't be read from a x reset
[04:34] <angasule> oem: I have used 3ddesktop, yes, why?
[04:35] <Lam_> Agent_bob: yeah, which is why i suggested that.  you'd have to modprobe fglrx :/
[04:35] <Lam_> Agent_bob: it's just simpiler and less irritating to restart the PC when trying to get fglrx working lol
[04:36] <Agent_bob> yeah i restart ever 15 minutes whether i need to or not...
[04:36] <oem> i just instaled and dont know how to activate it
[04:36] <mhasan> Hi
[04:37] <mhasan> I have a question on Beryl
[04:37] <mhasan> I just installed it and everything seems to be working finr
[04:37] <mhasan> except when I enable it, I get all the wobly things and what not
[04:38] <mhasan> but my application close, minimize and resize buttons have dissappeared.
[04:38] <mhasan> any ideas why?
[04:38] <angasule> !beryl
[04:38] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:39] <SupremeBeing> Lam_: Let's see
[04:40] <oem> ANGASULE so do you know how i set it up after installing it from adept?
[04:40] <SupremeBeing> Lam_: Doesn't appear to be working
[04:42] <angasule> oem: just press alt+f2 and then call '3ddesktop'
[04:42] <Lam_> god i hate fglrx. i hope amd improves linux support on ati products. try this: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[04:42] <SupremeBeing> Agent_bob: lol
[04:42] <SupremeBeing> Lam_: Did that about 2 hours ago
[04:43] <SupremeBeing> Lam_: but what the hay, i'll do it again
[04:43] <luiss> Hey, I've been wondering, what is the difference between Beryl and Compiz?
[04:43] <Lam_> that's the best i can do for support. i myself never got it to work because i was unfortunate enough to have an AMD processor with an ATI integrated motherboard
[04:43] <Agent_bob> never can tell,  maybe you missed a step.
[04:43] <Agent_bob> not likely.
[04:43] <SupremeBeing> Lam_: I'll keep trying... I probably did miss a step, given my experience level
[04:44] <SupremeBeing> Agent_bob: =)
[04:44] <Lam_> luiss: compiz is Novell's xgl accelerated 3d desktop.  beryl is a fork of compiz after Novell refused a potential merger from the quinnstorm project, so they forked into beryl
[04:44] <Agent_bob> you can also ask in #ubuntu   might be someone in there with the answer you want.
[04:44] <SupremeBeing> Agent_bob: I'll do that also.  Thanks
[04:45] <luiss> I see. Thanks Lam_
[04:45] <angasule> Lam_: what was quinnstorm?
[04:45] <Agent_bob> if you don't mention kde or related apps they wont know you don't belong there
[04:45] <SupremeBeing> Agent_bob: Indeed =) the fools!! :)
[04:45] <Lam_> angasule: just a community group that developed tons of plugins and performance improvements for compiz.
[04:46] <angasule> no one has reviewed my bug :( he must feel lonely
[04:47] <Agent_bob> 5 year old boy came home crying from his first day of school,  when asked what was wrong he said 'you know how you said if i'd keep my mouth shut they wouldn't know i was stupid?' he continued "well they found out anyway...<sobs/>"
[04:47] <SupremeBeing> angasule: You can always get him a friend to play with )
[04:49] <mhasan> the 3ddesktop command doesn't work
[04:49] <unix_infidel> Agent_bob: heh, good one.
[04:50] <Agent_bob> Q:      What is the difference between a duck?
[04:50] <Agent_bob> A:      One leg is both the same.
[04:50] <angasule> mhasan: do you get an error?
[04:51] <Agent_bob> i hear that the fool is the twin of the wise, perhaps you've mistaken me for my brother ?
[04:52] <Lothar> what is the command to add users in console
[04:52] <Agent_bob> adduser
[04:52] <Agent_bob> sudo that of course
[04:52] <SupremeBeing> yikez there's like no help  in the ubuntu channel
[04:52] <SupremeBeing> 800 people asking for help and .5 people helping
[04:53] <Agent_bob> lol
[04:53] <Agent_bob> .5 helping  lol
[04:53] <TehUni> all the sudden my custom kernel (edgy) refuses to boot. it hangs right after USB discovery. using the generic kernel, everything is fine. It's worked flawlessly until now. I have to use custom because i have more than 4gigs ram. Where should i start troubleshooting?
[04:53] <tiptip> little question, i'm working by a "howto" http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html   and the guy there uses package key for the repositories , i know how to do that on ubuntu but how i do it on kubuntu ??
[04:54] <FlameMaster> I'm having trouble rebooting/shutting down/closing session/restarting X window on kubuntu edgy (amd64). Whenever I do any of this, and after X shuts down, a blinking cursor stays on the screen and nothing else ever happens
[04:55] <FlameMaster> any thoughts on this?
[04:57] <Agent_bob> FlameMaster what does ctrl+alt+backspace say at that point ?
[04:58] <FlameMaster> Agent_bob: nothing. at all.
[04:58] <Agent_bob> is it disabled in the xorg.conf ?
[04:58] <Agent_bob> also can you drop to a console and see what is still running
[04:59] <FlameMaster> lemme check
[04:59] <Admiral_Chicago> SupremeBeing: yes that is like #kubuntu better
[04:59] <Admiral_Chicago> tiptip: give me a sec, i'll help you
[04:59] <FlameMaster> Agent_bob:  I mean, the blinking cursor just stays there, I try pressing any key combination on my keyboard but to no avail
[05:00] <FlameMaster> Agent_bob:  typing won't show a thing either
[05:00] <Agent_bob> FlameMaster alt+SysRQ+E
[05:00] <Agent_bob> FlameMaster alt+SysRQ+R  ?
[05:00] <FlameMaster> Agent_bob: SysRQ???
[05:00] <Agent_bob> yeah
[05:01] <FlameMaster> Agent_bob: SysRQ being... what key?
[05:01] <Agent_bob> being the sysRq key shared with print-screen  on 101 key
[05:02] <FlameMaster> Agent_bob: got it
[05:02] <FlameMaster> Agent_bob: I'll try that combination then. I have to try them on the blinking cursor part, right?
[05:03] <Agent_bob> i thought you said that was a hang  and nothing else worked ?    if you can leave the blinking cursor part it's obviously not hung
[05:04] <FlameMaster> Agent_bob: no, I can't. Sorry for mistaking what you meant.
[05:05] <Agent_bob> so then short answer is yes.  hang it and see if  alt+SysRq+R   and  alt+SysRq+E    do anything
[05:05] <FlameMaster> Agent_bob: ok, brb then
[05:05] <Agent_bob> r should reset the keyboard to xlate and e should end all processes
[05:07] <Agent_bob> TehUni seeing that no one has answered you.   there is a #kernel  you can ask there.    i really don't have any good advice there.
[05:08] <TehUni> thanks
[05:15] <Agent_bob> is there a doctor in the house
[05:15] <Lothar> how do i search for files in console
[05:15] <Agent_bob> find
[05:16] <Agent_bob> Lothar more simply put  find / -name <what.you.want.to.find>
[05:16] <Agent_bob> but that's not the best approach for that
[05:17] <Lothar> what would be
[05:17] <Agent_bob> starting in the dir you suspect it to be in.
[05:17] <Agent_bob> Lothar what are you looking for ?
[05:18] <Lothar> it is all good... i have found the file
[05:18] <Launchpad> im backck
[05:18] <Launchpad> gnome you still here
[05:18] <Lothar> i was looking for welcome.msg
[05:18] <Agent_bob> in /usr/share/ ?
[05:18] <FlameMaster> Agent_bob: it's a complete hangup. Tried twice and no key combination could get me out of it
[05:19] <Agent_bob> FlameMaster ok that's definitive then
[05:19] <Agent_bob> FlameMaster now you need a way around that...
[05:19] <flaccid_> ok dudes. what else is cool and new in kde land. katapult is cool for example
[05:20] <FlameMaster> Agent_bob: yes, I do.
[05:20] <Agent_bob> flaccid_ finding a way to keep FlameMaster's box from hanging solid on logout  would be way kewl
[05:20] <Dr_willis> never logout. :)
[05:21] <Agent_bob> now there's a thought.
[05:21] <FlameMaster> yeah I'll just hard reset D:
[05:21] <flaccid_> is it from logout of a certain DE or any DE?
[05:21] <Launchpad> if no one is busy could someone help me update my ubuntu up to the 6.06 lts update with aptget\
[05:21] <FlameMaster> logout/shutdown/reboot etc
[05:21] <Dr_willis> !update
[05:21] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:21] <Agent_bob> or use  alt+SysRq+U  alt+SysRq+B    which would remount,ro and reset the box....
[05:22] <Launchpad> ty
[05:22] <Agent_bob> FlameMaster that's kde specific or have you tried any other ?
[05:22] <FlameMaster> kubuntu, I don't have gnome installed
[05:22] <Launchpad> is there a ubuntu update page like that willis?
[05:23] <Launchpad> im on ubuntu
[05:23] <Dr_willis> No idea.. check the wiki pates.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> pages
[05:23] <robotgeek> !upgrade
[05:23] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:23] <Dr_willis> I always find it safer to do a clean install.
[05:23] <Agent_bob> Launchpad your sources list look like that ?
[05:23] <Launchpad> i would do clean isntall but i have no free cd r discs laying around
[05:24] <FlameMaster> Agent_bob: this is a clean install, btw
[05:24] <Launchpad> give me one sec i gotta find out where it went lol
[05:24] <Admiral_Chicago> FlameMaster: i think the command is gksu "dist-upgrade" -d
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Launchpad,  i would advise waiting then till you get some. :)
[05:24] <Launchpad> lol well i got that offical ubunutu book coming with i think has 6.06 lts on it
[05:24] <FlameMaster> Admiral_Chicago: wrong person?
[05:25] <Agent_bob> Launchpad  you can just sudo cp dapper /etc/apt/sources.list  if you like, and then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:26] <Launchpad> root@ubuntu:~# sudo cp dapper /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:26] <Launchpad> cp: cannot stat `dapper': No such file or directory
[05:26] <Launchpad> i know real basics of linux lol
[05:26] <Agent_bob> so get in the dir you dl'd it too
[05:26] <Launchpad> i was taught of fedora core 5 for one month about 2 years ago lol
[05:27] <Launchpad> where does xchat default to on downlads
[05:27] <Agent_bob> ok...   find ~/ -name dapper -exec sudo cp '{}' /etc/apt/sources.list -i \;
[05:27] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe
[05:27] <Agent_bob> that will do it for you ^
[05:28] <Launchpad> cp /etc/apt/sources.{list,list.bak}; sed -i s/dapper/edgy/g /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:28] <Launchpad> that?
[05:29] <Launchpad> althugh i dont think ubuntu 5.10 is dappy
[05:29] <Agent_bob> that would go to edgy from dapper
[05:30] <Launchpad> im not sure what 5.10 was lol
[05:30] <Agent_bob> FlameMaster yes that's the dido it cut.
[05:30] <rance> ok, I think I figured out my sound card problem, but Im really not sure what to do about it.  the output of aplay -l shows me that the driver supports two different devices one with surround sound and the other without.  Now according to alsamixer the surround sound device is whats in use, how do I change it
[05:30] <Agent_bob> Launchpad breezy
[05:30] <Launchpad> i see
[05:30] <Lothar> i wish to mount sda2 to /home/ftp/80gig how do i do that
[05:30] <FlameMaster> Agent_bob: huh?
[05:30] <Launchpad> well i found this
[05:30] <Launchpad> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[05:30] <eilker> !samba
[05:30] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:30] <Agent_bob> sudo mount /dev/sda2  /home/ftp/80gig
[05:31] <Agent_bob> Lothar ^
[05:31] <Agent_bob> Launchpad did you fix you sources.list yet or not ?
[05:31] <Agent_bob> are you now changing your mind about the version you want to upgrade too ?
[05:32] <Dr_willis> Lothar,  edit the fstab and put in the correct entry/path for the mountpoint.
[05:32] <Launchpad> no searching for it lol
[05:32] <Dr_willis> Lothar,  be sure that dir exists first, befor mounting.
[05:32] <Lothar> !fstab
[05:32] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[05:32] <Agent_bob> Launchpad it's /etc/apt/sources.list    the dl will be in ~/.xchat2/downloads/  most likely
[05:33] <Agent_bob> iirc
[05:34] <Agent_bob> Lothar you didn't specify what that fs was.  if it's something M$  you'll want some *mask options
[05:34] <Lothar> Agent_bob it is a brand spankin new hdd
[05:34] <Lothar> it is just to use as xtra space for FTP
[05:34] <Launchpad> ok i found the sources.list
[05:35] <Launchpad> now to find the xchat
[05:35] <Launchpad> what does ~ mean?
[05:36] <Agent_bob> your home
[05:36] <Agent_bob> echo ~
[05:36] <Launchpad> oo
[05:36] <Launchpad> /echo ~
[05:36] <Agent_bob> same as echo $HOME
[05:36] <mone> hola
[05:36] <Launchpad> sorry im just so new to this.. havent had much chance to mess with linux
[05:37] <Dr_willis> 'gotta learn to crawl, befor you can walk' :)
[05:37] <flaccid_> i have a kubuntu live cd. how can i boot it in windows?
[05:37] <Dr_willis> Go get that Orieally Using Bash book.. and keep it in the bathroom,, then eat a high fiber diet.
[05:37] <Launchpad> i look in prefs for xchat it told me lol
[05:37] <Admiral_Chicago> flaccid_: turn on the computer...
[05:37] <Agent_bob> FlameMaster it could indeed.   you should take that info to #kernel  and act like you know what you are doing and ask if anyone could point you at info about that.    maybe google a little first wouldn't hurt.
[05:37] <Dr_willis> flaccid_,  you 'boot' the pc.. not windows. :)   Put cd in the drive... reboot.
[05:38] <flaccid_> Admiral_Chicago: isn't there a vm
[05:38] <Launchpad> grr it doesnt have .xchat for me
[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> flaccid_: make sure you can boot to CD.
[05:38] <Zabulus> ok, trying to use ndiswrapper or ndisgtk i get a locale error, anyone have a suggestion?
[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> !vmware
[05:38] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[05:38] <Launchpad> all it has is /home/desktop
[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm not sure how to use vmware...
[05:39] <Launchpad> err /home/$user/desktop
[05:39] <Agent_bob> Launchpad no it's not.  there are tons of .file and .dirs in there   ls -A ~
[05:39] <Dr_willis> vmware server is very easy to use.. just a little bit of effort to get it installed..
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Launchpad,  its /home/USERNAME/Desktop :P last i looked.
[05:39] <Launchpad> ooo im looking in gui no wonder loll
[05:39] <FlameMaster> Agent_bob: thanks, will do
[05:40] <Agent_bob> FlameMaster and good luck with it.
[05:40] <FlameMaster> Agent_bob: I will surely need lots of that, thanks
[05:40] <Agent_bob> Launchpad ls ~/.xcha*
[05:41] <flaccid_> well i think its stupid how the live cd has an autostart with windows programs to install, but not a vm like qemu for the live cd image
[05:41] <Launchpad> root@ubuntu:~# ls ~/.xcha*
[05:41] <Launchpad> ls: /root/.xcha*: No such file or directory
[05:42] <Agent_bob> root ?
[05:42] <Agent_bob> root ?
[05:42] <Launchpad> yeah for the update
[05:42] <Dr_willis> Root?!?!?!
[05:42] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:42] <Zabulus> ok, trying to use ndiswrapper or ndisgtk i get a locale error, anyone have a suggestion?
[05:42] <flaccid_> i would like a root
[05:42] <Dr_willis> I have '.xchat2'
[05:42] <Launchpad> wouldnt let me do anythign without going to root for the apt-get update
[05:42] <Dr_willis> I would like a Root Beer.
[05:42] <Dr_willis> Launchpad,  Your logic is.. somewhat illogical. :)
[05:43] <Launchpad> sorry hehe like i said im still a noob
[05:43] <Dr_willis> when xchat is ran.it normally creates the .xchat2 dir
[05:43] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad: ls ~/.xcha   (then hit TAb)
[05:43] <Dr_willis> If you are running xchat as a user, you need the users /home/USERNAME/.xchat2 dir. Not /root/.xchat2
[05:43] <Agent_bob> Launchpad as normal you.  do this;  find ~/.xchat -name dapper -exec sudo cp {} /etc/apt/sources.list \;     like i asked you to an hour ago.
[05:44] <Agent_bob> not as root  ^
[05:44] <Agent_bob> not root !
[05:45] <Launchpad> ok so in terminal i need to get out of root correct?
[05:45] <Agent_bob> err xchat2   that   now you got me fusseled.
[05:45] <Agent_bob> just open another konsole if you like
[05:45] <Dr_willis> or use the 'exit' command to close the root session.
[05:45] <Dr_willis> or make a new tab. :)
[05:45] <Zabulus> ok, trying to use ndiswrapper or ndisgtk i get a locale error, anyone have a suggestion?
[05:45] <Zabulus> ok, trying to use ndiswrapper or ndisgtk i get a locale error, anyone have a suggestion?
[05:45] <Launchpad> im runing ubunutu.. no konsole.. just terminal lol
[05:46] <Agent_bob> so use the next tty
[05:46] <Dr_willis> gnome-terminal ? :) or ya mean the 'console'
[05:46] <Admiral_Chicago> !repeat | Zabulus
[05:46] <ubotu> Zabulus: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:46] <Launchpad> it says terminal in applications lol
[05:47] <coreymon77> !patience
[05:47] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:47] <Dr_willis> I must have about 4 different 'terminal' programs installed.
[05:47] <Agent_bob> never mind.   just have fun setting up your sources.list   and then   do    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade         good luck with it.
[05:47] <Launchpad> ty
[05:47] <Agent_bob> i'm outa here.  gnight
[05:47] <Launchpad> im getting close lol
[05:48] <Launchpad> the terminal is whats getting to me.. been so long sence ive done it
[05:49] <Launchpad> becuase cd desktop doesnt like to work lol
[05:51] <Launchpad> grr terminal needs to goto dos mode lol
[05:52] <FlameMaster> Agent_bob: btw, this problem is also happening when using running a Live desktop, and whenever debian-installer tries to reboot
[05:53] <Lothar> !dhclient
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhclient - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <knapp> does anyone know what the name of the website is that has interactive videos of different operating systems?
[05:56] <Alimah> hi, I have a headphone that requires software installation, but it doesn't seem to be compatible with kubuntu, any ideas on how I may make it work on kubuntu?
[05:57] <Dr_willis> Alimah,  you are refering to USB headphones?
[05:57] <Alimah> yes
[05:58] <Dr_willis> I would have to say. check the ubuntu/kubuntu wikis for 'usb audio' devices like those.. I havent any experience with them
[05:58] <Alimah> thank you!
[05:58] <Dr_willis> I rember when USB-Speakers were to be the next 'cool' thing... years ago.. heh - they never caught on.
[05:59] <Alimah> nah, I prefer headphones
[05:59] <Alimah> I'm nocturnal
[06:00] <Dr_willis> Only usb audio device i can justify.. are the USB skype phones. :)
[06:00] <Dr_willis> I do have a usb headset.. but thas for the Playstation
[06:01] <flaccid> what is the graphical mount tool in kubuntu?
[06:01] <Dr_willis> Graphical Mount tool... Hmm.. to 'edit' the fstab/mount points? or what exactly?
[06:01] <flaccid> to mount a partition
[06:01] <abattoir> flaccid: media:/ in konq.
[06:01] <flaccid> i can't do it in cli for some reason
[06:01] <abattoir> flaccid: or /media if you are using edgy
[06:01] <flaccid> i need to mount a fedora lvm
[06:02] <Dr_willis> Im guessing you need to figure out why you cant do it from the command line..
[06:02] <Dr_willis> I dont think any GUI tool will be that much smarter.
[06:02] <flaccid> yeah it doesn't come in media:/
[06:02] <flaccid> well i've mounted it before without a problem, i don't know why i can't now
[06:02] <flaccid> cli says its busy
[06:03] <Dr_willis> Its busy so you cant MOUNT it?
[06:03] <Dr_willis> normally you cant unmount it if its busy. :)
[06:03] <flaccid> its not mounted
[06:04] <flaccid> mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /mnt/hdb1 busy
[06:04] <Dr_willis> what is you rmount command you are using?
[06:04] <flaccid> sudo mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb1
[06:05] <flaccid> ignore the name of the dir
[06:05] <Dr_willis> heh
[06:05] <Dr_willis> and the 'mount' command by itself dosent show it being mounted allready?
[06:05] <flaccid> i think something must be wrong with the partition
[06:05] <flaccid> especially if its not coming up in media:/
[06:05] <flaccid> no its NOT mounted
[06:05] <knapp> Can anyone offer me advice on 'optimizing' kde for a laptop. I don't want Xubuntu. I'd just like for it to boot faster.
[06:06] <Dr_willis> knapp,  disable all the services you dont need would be the main speed boost for 'booting' times
[06:07] <flaccid> looks like stuffed partition label at this point
[06:07] <knapp> dr willis how can I disable services?
[06:08] <fildo> well fix it
[06:08] <fildo> ;p
[06:08] <Dr_willis> read up on how they work.. and try out the various 'SysV' init tools for a nice gui. I think that still works in edgy.. not sure..
[06:08] <flaccid> goddam it!
[06:08] <Dr_willis> wasent edgy sypposed to use some new init system?
[06:08] <flaccid> actually i guess it is this disk that is stuffed
[06:09] <Hobbsee> Dr_willis: yes, it does
[06:09] <Hobbsee> Dr_willis: upstart
[06:09] <chungnh> Is there anybody who use speedcom+ ADSL Modem here?
[06:12] <Dr_willis> well night all....   Live in a world of your own, but always welcome visitors.
[06:25] <word> Anyone here ever setup freenx? the repo suggested in the wiki seems to have a broken freenx package
[06:27] <Lothar> anyone got some programs for the G15 keyboard
[06:27] <Lothar> !g15
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about g15 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <kamui> is there any software I can use to burn two divx encoded home videos to a playable dvd in kubuntu?
[06:32] <singinmatt13> does k3b do that?
[06:33] <kamui> k3b only has options for data dvd it seems
[06:33] <bLaZeD> Kadran, try tovid or devede
[06:34] <bLaZeD> * kamui
[06:34] <bLaZeD> hehe
[06:34] <kamui> bLaZeD: neither are in the ubuntu apt directory huh?
[06:35] <bLaZeD> kamui, umm devede should be
[06:36] <kamui> I did an apt-cache search for devede, nothing
[06:36] <kamui> but i found a website
[06:36] <bLaZeD> roob@WeEdBuNtU:~$ apt-cache search devede
[06:36] <bLaZeD> devede - Video DVD creator
[06:37] <bLaZeD> kamui, maby u need to enalbe more repos?
[06:37] <kamui> I thought I had everything
[06:39] <sukka-4-luv> holy smidgels
[06:40] <sukka-4-luv> i got about 45 repos
[06:41] <singinmatt13> holy
[06:41] <sukka-4-luv> i gotta kleen house
[06:43] <sukka-4-luv> defraggin the raid
[06:43] <sukka-4-luv> 19+ hrs and countin for defrag
[06:43] <singinmatt13> holy shnikies
[06:43] <sukka-4-luv> well its like 2.85 Tb
[06:44] <singinmatt13> well then...that's reasonable
[06:44] <Hawkwind> bLaZeD: Devede is in the repos for Edgy, not Dapper
[06:44] <Hawkwind> !info devede
[06:44] <RoKFiT> i'm having a problem with ktorrent.  it's downloading extremely slow, and it's a pretty popular torrent, i'm almost positive it's the connection.
[06:44] <ubotu> devede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 243 kB, installed size 664 kB
[06:44] <bLaZeD> Hawkwind, ah
[06:44] <Hawkwind> !info devede dapper
[06:44] <ubotu> Package devede does not exist in dapper
[06:45] <singinmatt13> hm...
[06:47] <sukka-4-luv> rokfit, are you behind a firewall?
[06:47] <RoKFiT> yes
[06:48] <sukka-4-luv> cos i had the same problem, open a port and the connect will speed up
[06:48] <RoKFiT> i just looked again and now it's going
[06:48] <RoKFiT> thanks sukka-4-luv
[06:48] <sukka-4-luv> most of the time the torrent trackers are all jacked up
[06:48] <sukka-4-luv> old krap
[06:49] <sukka-4-luv> n/p
[06:49] <RoKFiT> what does that me
[06:49] <sukka-4-luv> no problem
[06:49] <RoKFiT> how is the torrent tracker jacked up?
[06:49] <sukka-4-luv> the report times are all lagged out, not that fresh
[06:50] <RoKFiT> because of the firewall?
[06:50] <sukka-4-luv> not the firewall
[06:50] <RoKFiT> just the torrent?
[06:50] <sukka-4-luv> just the trakers
[06:50] <RoKFiT> okay.
[06:50] <RoKFiT> well thanks again.
[06:51] <sukka-4-luv> look at the last update on the torrent on the tracker, its usually a few days old
[06:52] <sukka-4-luv> i just cant believe how small linux packages are
[06:54] <mendred> hi has anyone installed ardour on edgy?
[06:56] <kamui> thanks
[06:56] <kamui> looks like I don't even have enough hard drive space to make the movie :(
[07:02] <peacefully> hi
[07:02] <peacefully> hola mi nombre es Peacefully
[07:02] <peacefully> hay alguien cercas
[07:03] <robotgeek> !es
[07:03] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:07] <sukka-4-luv> aww man... now adept is holding
[07:08] <word> Hmm...what could this mean - http://pastebin.ca/265322 ? I get it while installing freenx
[07:09] <sukka-4-luv> why does thing keep waiting for headers, and just stay there????
[07:11] <xiO___> .
[07:11] <robotgeek> oo
[07:12] <robotgeek> somerville32: see
[07:13] <somerville32> Bot
[07:13] <somerville32> I'm guessing a CTCP flood or something
[07:15] <word> Odd..
[07:15] <robotgeek> word: bot attack, the word is
[07:15] <word> heh, robotgeek - any idea what this could mean - http://pastebin.ca/265322 ?
[07:16] <robotgeek> quux: join / part flooding, it stoppede :)
[07:18] <word> doesn't seem to be over
[07:18] <word> :P
[07:18] <tiptip> how i mount my sata disk ? (atm there is only windows on it)
[07:19] <kai> how can i get .wmv support?
[07:19] <robotgeek> !restricted | kai
[07:19] <ubotu> kai: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:24] <flaccid> anybody every set up ntfs on boot from live cd?
[07:24] <flaccid> hmm
[07:25] <flaccid> scrap that i need write access
[07:25] <robotgeek> flaccid: unlikely. cause you need the ntfs-3g module to write, i think
[07:25] <robotgeek> and that is probably not on the cd
[07:25] <flaccid> i'm in a predicament
[07:25] <word> robotgeek: so any idea what this could be caused by - http://pastebin.ca/265322
[07:25] <somerville32> Just install that module?
[07:26] <somerville32> Oh wait
[07:26] <somerville32> Do you need to reboot to install a module?
[07:26] <robotgeek> no, not really. mount -a works
[07:27] <T3hWiz0rd> robotgeek: how was that piiza, mang?
[07:27] <T3hWiz0rd> wait wrong channel
[07:27] <kai> robotgeek: Thanx my wmv movies are running now
[07:27] <tiptip> how i mount a sata drive that on /dev/sda2 ?
[07:30] <robotgeek> tiptip: you here?
[07:38] <Lotharr> i have been using proftpd for my server for some time now and all is good, but yesterday i installed Lampp and now all the dir's for the users are different
[07:40] <robotgeek> Lotharr: dapper or edgy?
[07:41] <linopil> I saw  isapnp   card  was detected  on boot where  is the log file   to  see  it again ?
[07:41] <robotgeek> linopil: dmesg | less
[07:42] <Lotharr> EDGY
[07:43] <lbulb> anyone here for a question on servers...
[07:43] <robotgeek> Lotharr: not sure. my proftpd broke yesterday, i don't know why!
[07:43] <robotgeek> !ask
[07:43] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:44] <lbulb> smart..: ) how do I connect to the server of undernet
[07:44] <Lotharr> robotgeek it seems as though it takes ages to display the welcome message and get the List comand
[07:44] <robotgeek> lbulb: which client are you using?
[07:45] <lbulb> robotgeek: konversation, kubuntu
[07:45] <robotgeek> lbulb: file -> quick connect, or connect to server
[07:45] <lbulb> i'm not sure which version...clueless actually..but i know how to enter the server address..
[07:46] <lbulb> there is no list of servers, i have to type in the servers addrss...is it irc.undernet.net?
[07:46] <robotgeek> lbulb: yes
[07:46] <knapp_> Where can I find a log of the systems startup?
[07:47] <lbulb> robotgeek: i guess there is something else that is not working because i cant connect
[07:47] <robotgeek> knapp_: /var/log/messages
[07:47] <robotgeek> lbulb: if you are on a university network, they might prevent connecting to irc. but i see you are on irc already :)
[07:48] <unix_infidel> robotgeek: he's not on a uni network.
[07:48] <unix_infidel> unless the uni's isp is verizon :P
[07:48] <robotgeek> heh
[07:48] <chungnh> test
[07:48] <unix_infidel> and i seee you changed the username :P
[07:48] <robotgeek> chungnh: test back
[07:48] <lbulb> robotgeek: yeah..and if I intall mIRC on the university comptuer, in a temporary folder it can run...but i've had problems wit htaht true
[07:50] <unix_infidel> lbulb: no, he's talking about actually using their network to connect to freenode servers.
[07:51] <lbulb> unix: ) i'm so new here.
[07:52] <aladinvn> so do i
[07:52] <lbulb> <unix_infidel: i'm using verizon, ir's a wireless connection.
[07:52] <aladinvn> so am i
[07:52] <unix_infidel> lbulb: try tab completion.
[07:52] <unix_infidel> for instance, my nick is unix[then press teb] 
[07:52] <unix_infidel> tab&
[07:52] <unix_infidel> tab*
[07:53] <lbulb> unix_infidel: aha
[07:53] <aladinvn> tab&
[07:53] <lbulb> unix_infidel: neat.
[07:53] <robotgeek> aladinvn: tab button
[07:55] <aladinvn> Is there anybody who are using speedcom+ ADSL modem?
[07:56] <robotgeek> aladinvn: maybe also search the wiki
[07:57] <lbulb> robotgeek: about the undernet conneciotn--would it make a difference if I try to connecting to different ports?
[07:57] <robotgeek> lbulb: not sure, should not need to
[08:00] <bLaZeD> !partioner
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about partioner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <bLaZeD> whats a good partoner
[08:00] <bLaZeD> *partioner
[08:01] <word> gparted
[08:01] <bLaZeD> thanks word
[08:02] <word> np
[08:02] <Lotharr> i have been using proftpd for my server for some time now and all is good, but yesterday i installed Lampp and now all the dir's for the users are different
[08:02] <Lotharr> it seems as though it takes ages to display the welcome message and get the List comand
[08:03] <robotgeek> bLaZeD: qtparted also works
[08:04] <bLaZeD> robotgeek, ahh k thanks
[08:14] <donkeykong> sup people
[08:35] <linopil> crimsun:  on alsa  pls
[08:49] <lbulb> has anyone installed Berkeley Madonna through Wine on Kubuntu?
[08:49] <lbulb> Berkeley Madonna is a Windows program
[08:51] <linopil> crimsun:  there ?
[08:57] <linopil> dead hour on freenode
[08:58] <stephano> hello. My usplash on the start is kubuntu, and on the shutdown is ubuntu. How can i make it all to ubuntu theme?
[09:07] <Voker57> hiya
[09:08] <Voker57> how can i shutdown the X server?
[09:09] <Voker57> I am installing nvidia drivers
[09:10] <sean_> me too
[09:10] <Voker57> Are you successful?
[09:11] <sean_> sort of
[09:11] <sean_> Question - Cant startx API mismatch nvidia kernel module older than X module, after running nvidia installer
[09:11] <sean_> when I install using the N
[09:11] <sean_> NVIDIA installer
[09:11] <Voker57> Can you help me? I cannot shutdown the X to start installing
[09:12] <sean_> are you in the gui
[09:12] <Voker57> Yep
[09:12] <sean_> try logging out and then starting into terminal seesion
[09:12] <sean_> session
[09:13] <Voker57> er
[09:13] <sean_> yep thats what I said when I tried this the first time
[09:14] <sean_> trick with Linux is that you can do almost everything from the command line and many things only from the command line
[09:15] <sean_> there is a package out there with the NVIDIA drivers in it
[09:15] <sean_> which you could install from adept
[09:15] <sean_> apt-get, aptitude, kynaptic etc
[09:15] <francesco_> hi2all
[09:15] <notech> uh, he logged out when you told him to :)
[09:16] <sean_> yeah didnt see that
[09:16] <Voker57> Now it says that there is no kernel interface for my kernel
[09:16] <Voker57> and no files to compile it from
[09:17] <notech> you need the kernel-headers
[09:18] <sean_> Question - Cant startx API mismatch nvidia kernel module older than X module, after running nvidia installer
[09:19] <Voker57> linux-kernel-headers?
[09:19] <notech> sounds right
[09:19] <Voker57> I already have them
[09:20] <notech> are they for the same version as your running kernel?
[09:20] <Voker57> er
[09:20] <Voker57> 2.6.11
[09:20] <Voker57> how to look at kernel version?
[09:20] <notech> runnig kernel, uname -r
[09:22] <Voker57> 2.16.15-26
[09:22] <Voker57> aww damn
[09:22] <Voker57> why include not the latest headers in install?
[09:22] <sean_> good question
[09:23] <Voker57> the bad thing about ubuntu is absense of lots of dev sources
[09:23] <notech> 2.6.11 sounds kind of old, like maybe you did an upgrade from a prior kubuntu version?
[09:23] <Voker57> No, i did not
[09:24] <notech> seems wierd then
[09:24] <Voker57> hmm only 7 mbytes to download
[09:24] <Voker57> although it's written 222
[09:24] <Voker57> 22
[09:24] <Voker57> i mean
[09:26] <shinobi2> anone got 6.10's wireless working?
[09:26] <shinobi2> anyone got 6.10's wireless working?
[09:27] <Voker57> okay let's have one more try
[09:33] <EdLin> shinobi2: I've got it working on ubuntu, but what I do should be doable on kubuntu too.
[09:35] <EdLin> shinobi2: are you there?
[09:36] <shinobi2> EdLin: yes
[09:36] <shinobi2> EdLin: how do you fix it?
[09:37] <EdLin> shinobi2: it's several command-line steps that work for me.
[09:37] <EdLin> shinobi2: first I run ifconfig
[09:37] <EdLin> shinobi2: is your wireless driver listed when you do that?
[09:38] <shinobi2> EdLin: i have the hardware error
[09:38] <EdLin> shinobi2: ifconfig gives you a hardware error??
[09:38] <shinobi2> my wireless works in 6.06 out of the box, but did not on 6.10
[09:38] <wizard> quick question to anyone in here familiar with grub?
[09:38] <shinobi2> wizard: ask away
[09:39] <shinobi2> wizard: fire your questions
[09:39] <wizard> I've put my old harddrive into another computer, I would prefer to simply boot it up as it was before it left the other computer. I do know this will cause problems, especially with drivers, i am prepared for that battle head. I am in the process of reinstalling grub.
[09:39] <EdLin> shinobi2: I don't think I can help much beyond saying to google with your error... :-/
[09:39] <wizard> I've got the jist that it is along the lines of: mount the / drive
[09:39] <wizard> run the command grub-install /dev/device
[09:39] <wizard> question is... how do I check the device name?
[09:40] <wizard> (ohh and also i know to chroot it)
[09:40] <shinobi2> wizard: don't know, but usually, (hd0,x) (fd0,x)
[09:40] <EdLin> shinobi2: I'm lucky that my driver's in the ubuntu kernel, so that kind of problem I'm not having.
[09:41] <shinobi2> EdLin: good for you, maybe ubuntu 7 will be better for me
[09:41] <Framon> hello
[09:41] <EdLin> shinobi2: here's a good starting point:
[09:41] <EdLin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:41] <RawSewage> What MMORPGs work on Kubuntu
[09:41] <llutz> Moin
[09:41] <wizard> shinobi2: it wants it listed as a /dev device
[09:41] <Framon> how could help
[09:41] <wizard> if its the only mounted device on that chroot, its /hda right?
[09:41] <Framon> ???
[09:43] <wizard> /dev/hda* blah
[09:43] <wizard> too sick for this crappola lol
[09:44] <Framon> how could help me to mount a flash usb mp3 player?
[09:44] <Framon> please
[09:45] <wizard> Framon: sometimes usb devices have compatibility issues, depending on chipset.
[09:45] <wizard> Framon: plug the device in and run the command "lsusb", see if the device appears in the list.
[09:45] <Framon> it is reconized
[09:45] <wizard> Framon: alright, so now you're just having trouble mounting it?
[09:45] <Framon> Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0ed1:7636 WinMaxGroup
[09:45] <wizard> Alright, thats partially good news.
[09:46] <wizard> So where is the problem coming in? Mounting the device?
[09:46] <Framon> mounting the devices
[09:46] <Framon> exact
[09:46] <wizard> Alright. all usb mass storage devices are /dev/sd*
[09:46] <wizard> they're mounted as sata for some odd reason.
[09:46] <Framon> how do i know the service
[09:47] <wizard> Framon: trying to remember... Forgive me, I have a terrible cold.
[09:47] <Framon> no problem
[09:48] <wizard> Framon: one way to do it (this is from gentoo) is to type: ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/usb*
[09:48] <wizard> but you can also type: cat /proc/partitions
[09:48] <Framon> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2006-12-03 09:37 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Digital_MP3_Player_23DE8E2A95F3CA07 -> ../../scd0
[09:48] <wizard> once we know what device it is, its time to mount it.
[09:48] <wizard> alright, so the device is scd0
[09:48] <wizard> so lets go ahead and mount it...
[09:49] <wizard> I assume its probably a vfat partition...
[09:49] <Framon> i it's a fat32
[09:49] <wizard> lets try something like this...
[09:49] <wizard> first... mkdir /mount/mp3
[09:50] <wizard> next...: mount -t vfat /mnt/mp3 /dev/sdc0 noauto,user,exec,sync, 0 0
[09:50] <wizard> if all is good, the device should mount.
[09:50] <Framon> hold on a sec
[09:50] <wizard> next...: mount -t vfat /mnt/mp3 /dev/sdc0 noauto,user,exec,sync 0 0
[09:50] <wizard> that ones corrected, one too many commas.
[09:50] <shinobi2> wizard: grub use hd0,x, hd1,x instead of hda and hdb
[09:50] <wizard> shinobi2: d0h... lol
[09:50] <Framon> the console say that I not able to create the mount/mp3
[09:50] <notech> you mixed creating /mount/.. and /mnt/..
[09:50] <Framon> do i have to do it as admin
[09:50] <wizard> Framon: you need to do it as root...
[09:51] <wizard> Framon: as typed: sudo mkdir /mnt/mp3
[09:51] <Framon> ok
[09:51] <wizard> follow with: sudo mount -t vfat /mnt/mp3 /dev/sdc0 noauto,user,exec,sync 0 0
[09:52] <wizard> if all goes well, the device should mount and be ready for you to move media to/from.
[09:52] <wizard> if this fails... you can try replacing vfat with auto... if that fails, there can be some chipset compatibility issues with the kernel.
[09:53] <Framon> thanks
[09:53] <Framon> I will try
[09:53] <wizard> Framon: lemme know if it works.
[09:56] <Framon> wizard
[09:56] <wizard> Framon: yessir?
[09:56] <Framon> when I type su i get the following su: Authentication failure and I'm sure of my password....
[09:57] <wizard> Framon: in kubuntu, su doesn't exist... everything is done via "Sudo"
[09:57] <notech> case sensitive you know
[09:57] <wizard> i know, accidental
[09:57] <Framon> shittt
[09:57] <Framon> sorry
[09:57] <wizard> notech: like i said, im sick lol
[09:57] <wizard> Framon: its okay, it used to confuse me at first lol.
[09:57] <Framon> I just wake up
[09:57] <notech> lol, i'm in that club too
[09:57] <wizard> notech: whatchu got? cold?
[09:57] <notech> yeah
[09:58] <wizard> heh. Well, we've got t-shirts on the way.
[09:58] <notech> heh
[09:58] <wizard> Framon: one way I always remember it is to think... instead of just su... i add do to it too... sudo :-)
[10:00] <wizard> notech: im having a kubuntu box out in my garage whop my butt right now. It's sure rippin me up with grub lol
[10:00] <wizard> trying to avoid formatting the filesystem, even though I know once I get it working i am going to hit some driver issues from no other.
[10:03] <wizard> brb, gonna run out into the freezing cold garage and try to reinstall grub AGAIN!
[10:07] <linopil> !torrent
[10:07] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[10:08] <linopil> was there an atorrent as well ? like amule?
[10:08] <wizard> bah i give up
[10:08] <wizard> linopil: a lot of clients exist the bot only really knows a few
[10:09] <linopil> wizard  ?give up ? wizards  give up ? ;-)
[10:09] <wizard> when its 20 degrees out in the garage yes i give up lol
[10:10] <linopil> 20 degrees  F you mean
[10:10] <wizard> yeah
[10:10] <notech> a bit cold to run a box in
[10:10] <wizard> and I'm already sick, so its even worse for me
[10:10] <linopil> drink some tea go to sleep
[10:10] <wizard> notech: boxan likesa da colda
[10:10] <Framon> wizzard : sudo mount -t vfat /mnt/mp3 /dev/sdc0 noauto,user,exec,sync 0 0   did not work
[10:10] <notech> it can collect moisture that way as parts get warm
[10:11] <wizard> Framon: can you give me the error it gave you?
[10:11] <wizard> notech: there is a dehumidifier in the room
[10:11] <linopil> ktorrent installed already
[10:11] <notech> risky, that won't do much inside the box
[10:11] <wizard> its *typically* not below the 40's ehre.
[10:11] <Framon> a long long text ... in fred with the info of the command
[10:11] <wizard> and 40's are fine for a boxan.
[10:12] <wizard> notech: not that it'll help much, but i do have the box open
[10:12] <adept_x> !kbfx
[10:12] <ubotu> kbfx is a replacement menu for KDE with enhanced features
[10:13] <wizard> guys, i'll brb
[10:13] <wizard> booting to kubuntu
[10:13] <Sean00> anyone with experience with the nvidia driver install?
[10:14] <word> Sean00: what can I do for ya
[10:14] <Sean00> I installed the nvdia driver with the installer
[10:14] <Sean00> and I can startx into the gui
[10:15] <Sean00> but if I reboot x wont start and I get a API mismatch erro
[10:15] <T3hWiz0rd> okay, back
[10:15] <noiesmo> Sean00, did you install nvidia driver from nvidia or thru repos
[10:16] <Sean00> kernel version 1.0-7??? X version 1.0-9629
[10:16] <Sean00> from nvidia
[10:16] <noiesmo> you need to disable the restricted module one
[10:16] <noiesmo> from loading at boot time
[10:17] <Sean00> noiesmo: how?
[10:17] <noiesmo> in this file  /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[10:17] <noiesmo> add this to end DISABLED_MODULES="nv"
[10:17] <T3hWiz0rd> brb
[10:17] <noiesmo> Sean00, should do it for you
[10:18] <Sean00> thanks noiesmo
[10:18] <noiesmo> Sean00, :)
[10:18] <T3hWiz0rd> anyone know why kbfx won't actually apply to kubuntu for me?
[10:22] <Framon> wizard: even when I try to mount it via the interface it told me dev/sdc0 does not exits and mounting error code 32
[10:25] <linopil> amarok needs a plugin for aac
[10:26] <Framon> wizard: now it's telling me "mount: block devide dev/scd0 is write protected. mounting read only \n mound /dev/scd0 can't read superblock"
[10:26] <linopil> !restricted
[10:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:42] <devinus> what are some of the KDE meta packages for Kubuntu?
[10:42] <Jucato> kdebase, kde-core, kde
[10:42] <devinus> kdewebdev, kde-extras, what-else?
[10:42] <RoC_MM_0w> If I was to choose Automatix or EasyUbuntu, is there a clear winner?  I'd prefer Automatix but I heard some bad stuff about it on one of these channels.
[10:42] <RoC_MM_0w> kubuntu-desktop
[10:43] <Jucato> kubuntu-desktop is not a KDE metapackage
[10:43] <Jucato> kdebase, kde-core, kde, kdepim
[10:43] <Hirvinen> RoC_MM_0w: A clear winner is reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[10:44] <RoC_MM_0w> What?  I thought kubuntu-desktop grabbed all the kubuntu KDE stuff
[10:44] <Hirvinen> kubuntu-desktop is way much more than just KDE.
[10:45] <RoC_MM_0w> oh
[10:45] <Jucato> RoC_MM_0w: KDE doesn't have OO.o, for example
[10:45] <RoC_MM_0w> True.
[10:46] <voicu> !rar
[10:46] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[10:47] <voicu> !info unrar-free
[10:47] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[10:47] <SillyZ> morning... quick q on smp kernels..... are they for 64bit processors or 32bit?
[10:48] <m3m0r3xXx> How to install drivers for nvidia geforce 7300LE and monitor Samsung720n ?
[10:48] <SillyZ> running a core duo here, and generic seems fine, but try an smp kernel and is unable to mount fs on 00:00
[10:49] <m3m0r3xXx> !nvidia
[10:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:49] <m3m0r3xXx> !samsung
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about samsung - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <Hirvinen> !smp
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <m3m0r3xXx> !monitor
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <m3m0r3xXx> damn
[10:49] <m3m0r3xXx> I need drivers for my monitor :)
[10:50] <RoC_MM_0w> !freeze
[10:50] <ubotu> freeze: ZeroC Freeze related utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.0-2 (edgy), package size 605 kB, installed size 1620 kB
[10:50] <RoC_MM_0w> !antifreeze
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about antifreeze - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <RoC_MM_0w> hehe
[10:50] <SillyZ> antifreeze defination;  Hide her night gown
[10:51] <voicu> ok, i'm really stupid. i just deleted a file (not to trash). can i get it back with some kind of recovery program?
[10:52] <voicu> !recovery
[10:52] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[10:52] <voicu> !file recovery
[10:52] <ubotu> file: Determines file type using "magic" numbers. In component main, is standard. Version 4.17-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 100 kB
[10:52] <Jucato> if you deleted it from the command line or Shift+Del, it's lost
[10:53] <jasin> hi
[10:53] <Nuked> ho
[10:53] <Nuked> hi
[10:53] <jasin> lol
[10:53] <nagyv> how can I find a program on launchpad? there is a weird translation to Hungarian (I don't get what it wants) on the convenience tab of the kdm login manager, how can I find this on launchpad? which program is this? (kdm, system settings, just a module?)
[10:53] <jasin> The kernel seems outdated in kubuntu.
[10:53] <voicu> jucato, i thought so too. but for example in windows there are programs to recover lost files
[10:53] <voicu> and they work too
[10:54] <Nuked> jasin rsa or elgamal?
[10:54] <jasin> huh?
[10:54] <voicu> surely linux doesn't overwrite the contents of the file. just deletes the index
[10:54] <Nuked> pgp keys
[10:54] <RoC_MM_0w> surely
[10:54] <Jucato> voicu: different filesystem, different recovery features. afaik, ext3 doesn't have it from the command line... that's just afaik
[10:54] <jasin> yes, rsa encryption
[10:54] <jasin> what about it?
[10:55] <_kuja_> nagyv, you can search through the ubuntu packages in konqueror, with upackage or usource, but you may have to enable it in the Web Shortcuts configuration first
[10:55] <Nuked> jasin is it better than elgamal?
[10:56] <jasin> rsa is better
[10:57] <Nuked> jasin are you sure?
[10:57] <jasin> I dont use either myself.
[10:58] <Nuked> thanks
[10:58] <Nuked> any other recommendations?
[10:58] <z0d_> !nvidia
[10:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:59] <jasin> Full decryption of an RSA ciphertext is thought to be infeasible
[10:59] <Nuked> As of 2005, the largest number factored by general-purpose methods was 663 bits long
[10:59] <Nuked> few see any way that 4096-bit keys could be broken
[11:00] <Nuked> but I was looking into them both
[11:00] <jasin> yes, with a verrrrrrrrrrrry large linux balewolf cluster and 5 years of time
[11:00] <jasin> lol
[11:00] <Nuked> what about Timing attacks
[11:02] <jasin> The nist usses Aes
[11:02] <Nuked> rindjael or something like that
[11:03] <jasin> Timing attacks are easier to mount if the adversary knows the internals of the hardware implementation, and even more so, the crypto system in use.
[11:04] <Nuked> jasin thanks for the info
[11:04] <Nuked> cheers
[11:06] <RoC_MM_0w> There was also a weakness in the way GPG/PGP generated El Gamel keys.  It was a potentially bad vulnerability ( i think it had to do with imitation, not breaking encrypted files), none of my keys that I've made were vulnerable, but it was a black mark for El Gamel.
[11:07] <RoC_MM_0w> Not to say RSA hasn't had any black marks
[11:08] <RoC_MM_0w> dang I like conversation more than xchat
[11:10] <seven11> why is ktorrent so slow i forwarded the ports and still on xp (bitcomet) i get a download speed of 40kB/s and in kubuntu with any program not more than 1kB/s   ????
[11:12] <RoC_MM_0w> seven11: good question.  Try another BT client to see if it's just ktorrent or if it's something else.  Azureus?
[11:12] <seven11> i have tryed them all azereus bittornado ... it's all the same
[11:14] <RoC_MM_0w> Sweet
[11:14] <RoC_MM_0w> Try enabling the encryption option in Azureus
[11:14] <RoC_MM_0w> your isp may be interfering with your traffic
[11:15] <esben> Hmm.. according to the guides on the net, the Java firefox plugin is in a package called sun-java5-plugin ... but there is no such package. (And yes, I have universe enabled).  Did it change name?
[11:15] <seven11> ok i will give it a try
[11:16] <noiesmo> sun-java5-plugin is multiverse
[11:17] <esben> noiesmo: Could you check if it still is? I have multiverse enabled as well, but I apt-cache doesn't find it
[11:17] <seven11> RoC_MM_0w: in bitcomet i have DHT: 104 nods the same torrent in ktorrent has 0 nods , 0 tasks
[11:17] <esben> apt-get update reports : Hit http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages <---- so it seems I really have that repo. enabled
[11:17] <Jucato> esben: did you do "sudo-apt get update" after enabling the *correct* multiverse?
[11:18] <noiesmo> esben, i'm on edgy but on dapper thinks the same apt-cache show sun-java5-plugin Package: sun-java5-plugin Priority: optional Section: multiverse/web
[11:18] <Jucato> esben: use pastebin to show your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:18] <RoC_MM_0w> seven11: I'm not sure if that's important,but try what I said.
[11:18] <lupul> !netlimiter
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netlimiter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <RoC_MM_0w> lupul: try trickle
[11:19] <seven11> ktorrent has encrypten as well so i turned this on
[11:19] <lupul> thanks i already did
[11:19] <RoC_MM_0w> k
[11:19] <lupul> it doesn't work
[11:19] <RoC_MM_0w> what command did you use lupul?
[11:19] <lupul> trickle -u 30
[11:20] <lupul> bun nothing happened
[11:20] <RoC_MM_0w> like
[11:20] <RoC_MM_0w> trickle -u 30 ktorrent?
[11:20] <SillyZ> q: I know theres a 'hack' for the 915display of 1440x900 but thats for an intel card, how can I get the same resolution using an ATI X1400 ?
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: ping
[11:20] <esben> Jucato: one sec, pastebin is slow today
[11:20] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: pong
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> how is it goingL
[11:20] <lupul> i have to write the application too?
[11:20] <RoC_MM_0w> whatever application you want to launch throttled lupul
[11:21] <lupul> thanks
[11:21] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: tiring, hectic, weekend...
[11:21] <lupul> i/m new on linux and i don't know many things
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: #kubuntu-offtopic ?
[11:22] <esben> Jucato: hmm... pastebin seems to be a bit under the weather. This is my multiverse line: deb http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse
[11:22] <RoC_MM_0w> that won't work?
[11:23] <Jucato> looks fine to me esben
[11:23] <esben> Hmmm...  the thought that I am on 64 bit AMD suddenly strikes me... I wonder...
[11:23] <esben> Jucato: Shhot :o) Thanks
[11:23] <RoC_MM_0w> I use two lines...one for universe, another for multiverse...it works for me with it this way. esben
[11:23] <seven11> jesus 4 day for 125 mb 10 seeders 15 leechers nooooo
[11:24] <esben> RoC_MM_0w: Worth a try I suppose, but I can see the multiverse packages getting fetched from multiverse, so I won't hold my breath :/
[11:24] <RoC_MM_0w> Interesting esben
[11:25] <Jucato> esben: are you sure you're getting the package name right? sun-java5-plugin
[11:25] <Jucato> esben: if it still doesn't work, try changing "dk." to some other server/mirror
[11:26] <esben> Jucato: Nothing. What mirror do you use? (since I know that one must work!) :)
[11:26] <Jucato> esben: try using uk.
[11:26] <milaks> Hi. I've followed this article http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208396&highlight=openoffice (Display Microsoft fonts like on Windows), but still cannot make fonts in Open Office right. I've unchecked "antialiasing" under "View" submenu in OO, but fonts are then even more uglier. Does anyone now how to fix this?
[11:26] <Jucato> or try removing it
[11:28] <lupul> i managed it
[11:28] <lupul> thanks to all of youy
[11:29] <lupul> *youy
[11:29] <lupul> **you
[11:30] <nagyv> how can I instruct my edgy that it is sitting on a laptop? there are no laptop settings under the system settings, and it seems (from the hardware database), that my computer was not recognized as a laptop
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> milaks: forums say OO.o ignores your setting
[11:31] <milaks> Pitty
[11:32] <Admiral_Chicago> try this "Before I had my font config files in /etc/fonts which worked for the rest of the system but not firefox or yelp. I copied them to ~/.fonts and that fixed those 2 programs as well."
[11:32] <milaks> Is Koffice comparable to OpenOffice, for standard home use_
[11:32] <milaks> ?
[11:32] <_kuja_> milaks: I find it to be, some of the more advanced things are a little buggy though
[11:32] <Admiral_Chicago> whan do you mean home use?
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> milaks: To solve the issue in OpenOffice, just go to Tools > Options and untick the Antialias check box. Or even better, set it to antialias small fonts, like 12px or less.
[11:33] <milaks> Admiral_Chicago: simple nothing to much demanding without the for very advanced features.
[11:34] <Admiral_Chicago> milaks: it works great for me
[11:34] <milaks> Admiral_Chicago: Yes, I've read that to, and done that. But fonts are still either too ugly (without aa) or antialiased.
[11:34] <Admiral_Chicago> all i do is write papers in it
[11:34] <milaks> Ok, thanks
[11:34] <milaks> One more question
[11:34] <Admiral_Chicago> you've been through all the work arounds?
[11:34] <milaks> yes
[11:35] <esben> Hmmm.. found the package from a 32bit machine. Is java-sun-plugin5 32-bit only, I wonder?
[11:35] <milaks> in which package can I find 'listen' netowrk program?
[11:36] <_kuja_> Yes it is
[11:36] <_kuja_> install ia32-sun-java5-bin
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> ah then i'm not sure
[11:36] <RoC_MM_0w> milaks: like a packet sniffer?
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> milaks: what do you meant listen?
[11:37] <_kuja_> Of course, ia32-sun-java5-bin will probably only work in a 32-bit browser
[11:37] <milaks> Well I cannot find utitlity 'listen' on my machine
[11:38] <fdoving> milaks: what does that utility do?
[11:38] <milaks> Oh crap
[11:38] <milaks> Maybe I'm wrong about its name
[11:38] <milaks> it's network utitlity
[11:38] <esben> _kuja_: Ah ok thanks :) Well, if software is too sucky to do 64bit, I don't think  I will bother, but my wife has her Java now, so that is great . THANKS EVERYONE :D
[11:38] <fdoving> milaks: the only 'listen' utility i know of, is a gnome music player/manager.
[11:39] <milaks> that shows what each program is sending/receiving
[11:39] <crazy_bus> Can anyone help me?  I was trying to load a tetris like program from my KDE menu, but when I clicked on it my computer immediatly reset.  Now that I've booted up again, some of my icons are missing.  For instance the Firefox logo is now X, and there is nothing where the GAIM icon should be
[11:39] <milaks> and its TCP state
[11:39] <fdoving> milaks: you can try 'jnettop'
[11:39] <fdoving> !info jnettop
[11:39] <ubotu> jnettop: View hosts/ports taking up the most network traffic. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.12.0-2 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 136 kB
[11:39] <milaks> Oh, what a emaressment :))
[11:39] <RoC_MM_0w> crazy_bus: go into adept and fetch updates and then do an upgrade and upgrade to the latest packages.
[11:39] <milaks> Thanks guys :)
[11:40] <milaks> And yet antoher question :) Is there any graphical frontend to `netstat` ?
[11:40] <RoC_MM_0w> probably
[11:40] <RoC_MM_0w> why would you care/
[11:40] <milaks> I mean KDE
[11:41] <Admiral_Chicago> crazy_bus: do you have a crash report in /var/crash
[11:41] <crazy_bus> I'm doing the upgrade now, and I'll now check for the crash report
[11:42] <RoC_MM_0w> crazy_bus: I had the exact same problem today, although not on a machine with *buntu...with one with a possibly bad HD....I did an upgrade and all was well
[11:42] <RoC_MM_0w> I also experienced that problem using kubuntu while I was using some applications and left them open as I did an upgrade.
[11:43] <RoC_MM_0w> **the upgrade didn't help the bad HD one
[11:43] <crazy_bus> Did you need to reboot to have the update help?
[11:43] <RoC_MM_0w> no
[11:44] <Admiral_Chicago> crazy_bus: restart X
[11:44] <RoC_MM_0w> I just closed any programs that were acting strangly..logging out would have accomplished the samr thing.
[11:44] <Admiral_Chicago> alt + ctrl + backspage or log out and in
[11:45] <RoC_MM_0w> It is rarely necessary to actually reboot.
[11:45] <RoC_MM_0w> Assuming you aren't running Windows.
[11:45] <RoC_MM_0w> In which case it's always necessary to reboot.
[11:46] <Admiral_Chicago> RoC_MM_0w: it case you're screwed either way
[11:47] <Admiral_Chicago> in that case*
[11:51] <crazy_bus> When I logged out to try and restart X my computer froze.
[11:51] <Admiral_Chicago> froze as in didn't get past KDM?
[11:52] <dirollordi> Can someone help me with the Encyclopedie Hachette 2006 ?
[11:53] <crazy_bus> They was a 1 millimeter white bar on the top of the screen, the rest of the screen was black.  The mouse was movable but nothing further happened
[11:54] <dirollordi> !help
[11:54] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:55] <dirollordi> !update
[11:55] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[11:55] <dirollordi> !ehm
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ehm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <crazy_bus> I wen't into adept and upgraded everything.  But some of my icons are still gone.
[11:56] <PetePete> anyone here had any luck getting bluetooth to work?
[11:56] <PetePete> when ever my dongle is plugged in, the bluetooth config program wont open (freezes) from system settings :S
[11:57] <Admiral_Chicago> crazy_bus: try this: log in a "fail safe terminal" in kdm and type  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:57] <Admiral_Chicago> bbl
[11:57] <PetePete> if i unplug it, the window unfreezes
[11:57] <uyusuk> kopete webcam help
[11:57] <crazy_bus> if I type that in will I have to answer lots of question?
[12:05] <vavoom> Hi. for vnc tunneling, which is better: SSH or SSL ?
[12:05] <fdoving> ssh is good.
[12:05] <fdoving> you can use the -via switch with xtightvncviewer..
[12:06] <vavoom> fdoving: thank you. Do you have any thoughts on SSL?
[12:07] <fdoving> vavoom: not really.. i'd use ssh.
[12:07] <vavoom> Everyone says SSH is the method, but I'm curious about the difference in an SSL connection for VNC?
[12:08] <vavoom> fdoving: OK... why is SSH the 'only' way?
[12:09] <fdoving> vavoom: it's probably not, I have never tried ssl, google for 'vnc over ssl'
[12:09] <vavoom> fdoving: thanks for the help... good bye.
[12:10] <nagyv> how can I check if a device node is present? if [ -f /dev/node ]  is always false, -s is always true
[12:14] <fdoving> nagyv: -b maybe (man test'
[12:14] <fdoving> )
[12:22] <eilker> how can i solve this ? The following packages have unmet dependencies: libtool: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or  libc-dev //E: Broken packages
[12:23] <fdoving> eilker: what does 'sudo aptitude install libc6-dev' say?
[12:23] <esben>  vavoom: SSH is essentially SSL... so securityvise, the difference is moot
[12:24] <resi> hello everyone
[12:24] <resi> need some help with printing
[12:24] <esben> eilker: What are you trying to do?
[12:25] <Admiral_Chicago> crazy_bus: hopefully
[12:25] <Admiral_Chicago> i think you have a borked X configuration
[12:25] <eilker> fdoving: see it gave a long text , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35163/
[12:26] <eilker> esben: my system is down...yesterday i lost 55 packages, i removed openLDAP by mistake, i was trying for vmware
[12:28] <marco> ciao gente
[12:29] <marco> ce qualkuno??
[12:29] <resi> anyone?
[12:29] <abattoir> !it | marco
[12:29] <ubotu> marco: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:29] <marco> ok sorry
[12:30] <eilker> fdoving: should i accept the downgrade ??
[12:31] <fdoving> eilker: is this dapper?
[12:31] <jjjj> hi all
[12:32] <jjjj> on boot my kubuntu says BUG soft lockup detected con CPU
[12:32] <jjjj> what does it mean?
[12:32] <Admiral_Chicago> !softlock
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about softlock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm
[12:32] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on a sec
[12:32] <eilker> fdoving: yes sir
[12:32] <fdoving> eilker: why do you have libc6-dev from edgy then? :)
[12:32] <fdoving> eilker: yes, accept the downgrade.
[12:33] <Admiral_Chicago> can't find it, sorry jjjj
[12:33] <eilker> fdoving: i have no idea:) ok
[12:34] <gradin> ...
[12:35] <gradin> i need help isolating what is causing my kubuntu box to hardlock periodically...
[12:35] <gradin> what would be a good log file to look at?
[12:35] <eilker> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory   //any solution for this ?
[12:36] <eilker> i think etc/enviroment is not correct, i dont know how to fix it
[12:36] <fdoving> eilker: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/environment ?
[12:37] <eilker> fdoving: sir, here it is, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35164/
[12:38] <gradin> ... sir?
[12:38] <eilker> gradin: i like to say sir...
[12:38] <eilker> gradin: to my friends too
[12:39] <fdoving> eilker: you can delete line number 02. as 09. does the same.
[12:40] <fdoving> eilker: also, it looks like you have 'localeconf' installed. you can run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow localeconf' to configure your locale settings.
[12:40] <gradin> i need help isolating what is causing my kubuntu box to hardlock periodically...
[12:40] <gradin> what would be a good log file to look at?
[12:41] <fdoving> gradin: you can look at /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/messages for starters.
[12:41] <gradin> tnx
[12:42] <gradin> fdoving: whats the keystroke to jump to the end of a file in vim
[12:42] <fdoving> gradin: shift+g
[12:43] <jam1138> Hola Mundo xD
[12:43] <eilker> fdoving: there is a screen and i should tick of these // LC_collate, lc_ctype,lc_messages, lc_monetary, lc_numeric,  lc_time
[12:43] <eilker> fdoving: should i put a tick 6 of those ?
[12:44] <fdoving> eilker: only if you want to override the default system locale,set by LANG=
[12:44] <gradin> fdoving: tnx
[12:44] <gradin> um....
[12:44] <gradin> Dec  3 03:19:29 ubuntu kdm_greet[4857] : Internal error: memory corruption detected
[12:45] <gradin> is that a bad thing? ;P
[12:45] <fdoving> gradin: sounds like a bad thing..
[12:45] <gradin> fdoving: how can i fix that...
[12:45] <eilker> fdoving: it is under title  Environment settings that should override the default locale:
[12:45] <eilker> gradin: i have same thing, kate crashs
[12:46] <eilker> fdoving: so ? do i need to tick them ? or do u suggest me let them free ?_
[12:49] <Alarm> hello
[12:49] <Alarm>  i see there are 2 different isos. a cd iso and a dvd iso. of course with different image size. does the dvd iso include more or how is it ? cause i dont see like 3-4cd isos but just one
[12:50] <fdoving> eilker: if you want everything to be the language you initialy selected as default, don't tick them.
[12:51] <eilker> fdoving: ok thanx let me reboot, to see fixed or not
[12:54] <DarkED> what is the name of KDE's irc client?
[12:54] <Alarm> ok :)
[12:55] <olegfink> !konversation
[12:55] <ubotu> konversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 5027 kB, installed size 12988 kB
[12:55] <DarkED> thanks!!
[12:55] <DarkED> been trying to remember for the past half hour, I hate xchat...
[12:55] <eilker> fdoving: solved, thank you very much
[12:55] <DarkED> so, any big KDE improvements in edgy? (I'm coming from 6.06 beta)
[12:56] <Fragrag> Is there a search option? I seem to have lost a file :S
[12:56] <eilker> fragrag: locate ?
[12:57] <Alarm> for kubuntu i see there are 2 different isos. a cd iso and a dvd iso. of course with different image size. does the dvd iso include more or how is it ? cause i dont see like 3-4cd isos but just one . why is that huge size difference
[12:58] <olegfink> Alarm: there is more packages on dvd than on cd
[12:58] <Fragrag> Nevermind, ^F does it too
[12:58] <Alarm> okie. thanks
[12:58] <eilker> The httpd deamon has difficulties to write to /var/run/vmware/ and could not create the httpd directory. in every reboot deletes the folder /var/run/vmware/httpd  , what must i do ?
[01:00] <olegfink> eilker: are that directory's permissions right?
[01:01] <eilker> olegfink: yes it is
[01:01] <eilker> olegfink: sorry , no it is root's
[01:02] <olegfink> eilker: maybe you should cahnge it that 'nobody' has write access
[01:03] <olegfink> e.g. chmod o+w /var/run/vmware
[01:12] <tobias> :)
[01:20] <crazy_bus> I did the xserver reconfigure but it completly killed my X
[01:22] <hyper_ch> crazy_bus: then try again :)
[01:22] <hyper_ch> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:22] <crazy_bus> Why?
[01:24] <crazy_bus> Everytime I've tried that, X, just loads up to a black screen.  And then I have to restore my xorg.conf backup
[01:26] <martinju> hey everyone
[01:26] <martinju> im just about to remove kubuntu and reinstall windows... anyone feel like talking me out of it? :D
[01:27] <voicu> well not really, but why would you do that?
[01:28] <martinju> well... ive had so much trouble even to get kubuntu to work, it feels like its not worth it
[01:29] <martinju> and now there are more things i need to solve before being able to use the computer for what i do most
[01:29] <crazy_bus> what are those things?
[01:30] <martinju> id like to play mp3s and divx/xvids
[01:30] <cathal> anyone know how to activate TC out on a laptop, the function key doesnt work. Do i have to activate an option somewhere?
[01:30] <martinju> and then id like to get Firefox working
[01:30] <cathal> *TV
[01:30] <voicu> hmm, i also thought of that a lot. i came to the conclusion that once you know how to make it work it's not such a trouble anymore. plus, a linux installation should last longer than a windows one
[01:31] <martinju> and then also get the interface working like i want it to, although thats more because of laziness
[01:31] <airfoil> hi all! i had conection problem with my adept manager repositories.
[01:31] <airfoil> hi! i can't connect to repostories
[01:31] <voicu> martinju, about the mp3s, you only have to install a package
[01:31] <martinju> well, i think im a bit used to windows, but i dont want to "make it work"... i want it to work :D
[01:32] <voicu> airfoil, is your /etc/apt/sources.list file setup correctly
[01:32] <martinju> which package is that?
[01:32] <voicu> martinju, true but in windows you still have to install a lot of stuff to make some things work
[01:32] <voicu> codecs too
[01:33] <dr0fnax> I've got WoW working under wine, and now I'm feeling like uninstalling windows :P
[01:33] <voicu> martinju, search on packages.ubuntu.com for libxine-extracodecs
[01:33] <martinju> well, in windows i install ffdshow and its done... true i need to install stuff, but its very simple
[01:33] <airfoil> voicu: yes it correct.
[01:34] <airfoil> i already enable the server list
[01:34] <voicu> you have to select the file for your specific version of ubuntu
[01:34] <airfoil> voice: this morning i can do it once. after that i can't even fetch update.
[01:34] <voicu> airfoil, so what actually is not working? do you get an error?
[01:34] <airfoil> voicu: It is hanging when i try to fetch update
[01:35] <martinju> cant i use adept manager to get packages?
[01:35] <airfoil> voicu: it waiting for header (0%)
[01:36] <voicu> martinju, for anything opensource yes, for stuff that is controversial like codecs you have to download by hand (and assume some of the responsability)
[01:36] <martinju> aha... got no problem with responsibility :D
[01:37] <voicu> i guess so, after all you were a windows user, right? :)
[01:37] <voicu> airfoil: try using apt-get to update
[01:37] <martinju> isnt there a way to get it to work with adept? i mean, the stuff is on the packages website, cant i set it up to get the "responsibility" stuff as well?
[01:37] <voicu> see if that works
[01:37] <martinju> hehe yeah... LOTS of responsibility there... hrrrrm
[01:38] <voicu> martinju, i tried to make it include propritary software in apt but it didn't seem to work on libxine-extracodecs... maybe i did it wrong
[01:38] <voicu> anyway, it's one file
[01:38] <martinju> ok
[01:38] <martinju> gonna see if i can make it work without asking more questions :D
[01:39] <abattoir> you can get libxine-extracodecs through adept if you have the multiverse repository enabled
[01:39] <abattoir> !multiverse
[01:39] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:39] <abattoir> while you're at it, enable universe too
[01:40] <abattoir> martinju: ^^^^
[01:40] <airfoil> voicu: okay i am trying
[01:40] <martinju> ok... so i need to read up on repositories (should make things simpler to upgrade in the future)?
[01:42] <voicu> abattoir, i have the multiverse and libxine-extracodecs doesn't install through apt
[01:42] <abattoir> voicu: could you see it in the packages list?
[01:42] <abattoir> apt or adept?
[01:42] <voicu> no
[01:42] <abattoir> doesn't really make a difference though
[01:43] <abattoir> voicu: make sure you have universe multiverse etc. enabled for 'dapper' or 'edgy'...
[01:43] <voicu> of course
[01:43] <abattoir> voicu: instead of 'dapper-backports' or 'edgy-backports' in the distro section
[01:43] <martinju> deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe  should do it?
[01:43] <martinju> or shouldit be edgy universe?
[01:44] <abattoir> martinju: which version of kubuntu?
[01:44] <voicu> martinju, it should be the one that you have installed
[01:44] <martinju> ok, edgy then
[01:44] <abattoir> martinju: dapper or edgy? 6.06 or 6.10?
[01:44] <martinju> kinda explains why it doesnt work yet :D
[01:44] <voicu> abattoir, i'm sure sources.list is ok, still the package isn't there
[01:44] <abattoir> martinju: yeah, make it 'deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse'
[01:44] <voicu> could the it be the mirror's fault?
[01:45] <abattoir> voicu: could you pastebin your sources.list?
[01:45] <angasule> how do I turn off the "do you want to install flash?" dialog in konqueror? it keeps popping up
[01:45] <abattoir> voicu: i presume you ran 'sudo apt-get update' after modifying sources.list
[01:45] <voicu> well, i modified sources.list the first time i installed the system and enabled everything that was in there
[01:46] <voicu> since then i've updating quite often
[01:46] <voicu> *i've been
[01:46] <martinju> ok, got universe, multiverse added
[01:46] <abattoir> martinju: ok, you clicked on fetch updates?
[01:46] <martinju> havent tried
[01:47] <voicu> !pastebin
[01:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:47] <martinju> i edited this in the sources.list
[01:47] <abattoir> martinju: ok, then run 'sudo apt-get update'
[01:48] <abattoir> martinju: make sure adept is closed before you run that
[01:48] <voicu> abattoir: if you really want it, here is the file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35170/
[01:48] <eilker> is there an apt-get log to see what i did until now  ?
[01:49] <martinju> ah nice... lots of new stuff
[01:49] <fdoving> eilker: /var/log/dpkg.log
[01:49] <abattoir> voicu: just as i told you :)
[01:49] <eilker> fdoving:ty
[01:49] <abattoir> voicu: look at lines 28 and 29
[01:49] <abattoir> voicu: it's edgy-backports, not edgy
[01:49] <abattoir> voicu: you can add multiverse to either lines 18 and 19
[01:49] <abattoir> voicu: or 03 and 04
[01:50] <abattoir> martinju: yeah, look for libxine-extracodecs
[01:50] <abattoir> martinju: and install that
[01:50] <voicu> aha, so there are more multiverse and universe repositories?
[01:50] <martinju> hmm... i think ive failed to enable the repository where those codecs are
[01:50] <martinju> checking sources
[01:52] <voicu> damn, i feel stupid right. downloading libxine-extracodecs each time. and instructing a few friends to do the same... they'll be pissed :D
[01:52] <martinju> can it be that the se.ubuntu.com sources does not contain the stuff i want?
[01:52] <abattoir> martinju: look at my reply to voicu, a few lines ago :)
[01:52] <voicu> can't even write right :P
[01:52] <martinju> aha! :D
[01:53] <abattoir> martinju: do it through adept, if you're new, you should be more comfortable w/ it
[01:53] <abattoir> voicu: it's a very common mistake :)
[01:53] <martinju> cant find it in adept manager
[01:54] <Flosoft> hey
[01:54] <Flosoft> is there an option to show a user list on KDM?
[01:54] <Flosoft> when logging in ... like on SuSE?
[01:54] <Flosoft> (EDGY)
[01:54] <eilker> fdoving:when i install a package via adept or console, it is hold in /var/cache/apt/archives , is it hold in /var/cache/apt/archives temporarly or permanently ?
[01:54] <abattoir> Flosoft: i think that depends on your KDM theme
[01:55] <Flosoft> hmm
[01:55] <Flosoft> ok ... i'll look for one
[01:56] <fdoving> eilker: until you clean it up.. 'apt-get clean'
[01:57] <martinju> should this be an adequate list for repositories?=
[01:57] <martinju> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[01:57] <johann_> who speak frech, im french??
[01:57] <zorglu_> !fr
[01:57] <fdoving> !fr | johann_
[01:57] <ubotu> johann_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:57] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:58] <Flosoft> hmm ... I can't find any theme which displays the users on KDElook.org
[01:58] <fdoving> Flosoft: i'm not aware of any fancy theme that supports userlists. You can disable the theming, and enable the userlist.
[01:58] <eilker> can i use the liveCD as a repo ?
[01:59] <fdoving> no.
[01:59] <fdoving> you can use the alternate cd.
[01:59] <Flosoft> I checked in the control panel
[01:59] <Flosoft> the checkbox: show list is checked
[01:59] <eilker> fdoving: can i get the alternate cd via shipit ?
[02:00] <fdoving> eilker: no.
[02:00] <zorglu_> even by paying ?
[02:00] <fdoving> Flosoft: yes, but you need to disable theming manually.. iirc.
[02:00] <eilker> !alternate cd > eilker
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alternate cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <abattoir> martinju: most people won't recommend that as it has 3rd party repostitories, stick to the wiki guide i pointed to you if you can
[02:00] <Flosoft> isn't there a theme with a user list?
[02:01] <VincentMX> w00t
[02:01] <VincentMX> ati works!
[02:01] <abattoir> martinju: enabling a 3rd party repo without really knowing if you need it or what it contains is a libability
[02:01] <Jucato> Flosoft: try looking for one in KDE-Look.org
[02:01] <Jucato> Flosoft: under the KDM Theme section
[02:01] <Flosoft> I am
[02:01] <Flosoft> but there is no Kubuntu one
[02:01] <Flosoft> which is a pity :(
[02:01] <martinju> ok
[02:02] <zorglu_> Flosoft: naive question, in which context do you need it ?
[02:03] <Flosoft> well ... I am installing Kubuntu for a friend
[02:03] <Flosoft> it's mainly for his family
[02:03] <angasule> !beryl
[02:03] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:03] <Flosoft> they want seperate accounts, but I upgraded them to kubuntu from suse
[02:03] <zorglu_> Flosoft: ah ok to avoid them to type with first name
[02:03] <Jucato> Flosoft: all KDM themes work across distributions
[02:03] <zorglu_> Flosoft: ok thanks
[02:03] <Flosoft> and one really nice thing for them is to simply click their name, and login
[02:04] <Jucato> Flosoft: but to get your regular user list in a plain (no theme) KDM/Login, you just have to edit a file. or better yet, install "kdmtheme"
[02:04] <Flosoft> but on the other side, I want to keep the name Kubuntu on the login page
[02:04] <eilker> what is  alternate cd's difference from ubuntu-desktop ?
[02:04] <Flosoft> kdmtheme?
[02:04] <Jucato> !kdmtheme | Flosoft
[02:04] <ubotu> kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 264 kB
[02:05] <Jucato> Flosoft: kdmtheme gives you a GUI for managing KDM Themes. it also allows you to easily disable/enable the use of KDM Themes
[02:05] <Flosoft> ok
[02:06] <Jucato> Flosoft: unfortunately, due to a bug in Edgy, you can't find it in System Settings once installed. you have to access it through KControl (press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol")
[02:07] <martinju> hmm... adept tells me ive got 647 packages that are upgradeable... would upgrading all of them mess anything up?
[02:07] <Flosoft> ok
[02:07] <Flosoft> I know kcontrol :)
[02:09] <martinju> 100mbit dl is good for upgrading :D
[02:09] <eilker> how can i see working daemons, programs etc ? (in gui ,not via ps aux)
[02:12] <abattoir> martinju: are you sure you were on edgy rather than on dapper?
[02:12] <abattoir> if you aren't, you might be in some trouble :P
[02:12] <martinju> yes im on edgy :)
[02:13] <VincentMX> does anybody know how i can make use of my 5.1 surround system in kubuntu?
[02:13] <martinju> but i think im in trouble anyway :D
[02:13] <Flosoft> is there maybe anyone who might make a kubuntu edgy kdm theme with a user list?
[02:13] <eilker> it is ctrl alt del  in xp, what for linux ?
[02:13] <martinju> its asking me questions like what encoding i want for consoles...
[02:15] <Jucato> Flosoft: have you tried to search inKDE-Look
[02:15] <Flosoft> yeah
[02:15] <Jucato> and?
[02:15] <Flosoft> I haven't found a Kubuntu theme with user lsit
[02:15] <Flosoft> *list
[02:16] <Flosoft> I downloaded deep blue ... but there seems to be a problem with the list height
[02:16] <Jucato> ah, you mean one that has Kubuntu artwork?
[02:16] <Flosoft> yeah
[02:16] <Jucato> ah
[02:16] <eilker> why can i see working programs in Ksysguard
[02:16] <eilker> why cant* i see working programs in Ksysguard ?
[02:17] <Flosoft> like the default kdm theme but with a userlist :)
[02:17] <JohnFlux> eilker: such as?
[02:17] <Jucato> Flosoft: you could probaby just tweak it a bit to change the background
[02:17] <eilker> JohnFlux: it is ctrl alt del  in xp, what for linux ?
[02:17] <Flosoft> jucato ... how do you mean?
[02:17] <JohnFlux> eilker: ctrl+esc
[02:17] <eilker> JohnFlux: how can i see working daemons, programs etc ? (in gui ,not via ps aux)
[02:18] <eilker> JohnFlux: thank you so much...
[02:18] <JohnFlux> np
[02:18] <martinju> hmm... this upgrade thingie was a big can'o'worms :D
[02:18] <Jucato> nah don't mind e.. not thinking straight...
[02:20] <eilker> !getty > eilker
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about getty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <ckd> why i cant install skype with apt-get ?
[02:21] <eilker> any errors ?
[02:21] <ckd> no
[02:21] <ckd> didnt find
[02:22] <Jucato> !skype
[02:22] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[02:22] <computer_> hello
[02:22] <martinju> !cups
[02:22] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:22] <ckd> thx
[02:23] <martinju> i killed the internet!
[02:24] <martinju> crap
[02:27] <martinju> sigh... now i cant use Konqueror: Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[02:34] <eilker> how much ram does kubuntu need at least ?
[02:34] <martinju> !ram
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ram - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <martinju> just had to try :)
[02:35] <cox377> eilker: to install it takes 256 but for general usage i've found 192 to be fine.. never tried any lower
[02:36] <eilker> cox377: i have 512 and installed vmware ...
[02:36] <cox377> eilker: ummm that should be fine then
[02:36] <cox377> eilker: i'm not to sure on vmware
[02:37] <cox377> !vmware
[02:37] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[02:37] <eilker> cox377: it is a great tool
[02:38] <easytiger> is the kubuntu distro itself given under the GPL?
[02:40] <zorglu_> easytiger: nope. there are no special license
[02:42] <NiklasofVienna__> !beryl
[02:42] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:42] <computer_> hi everyone
[02:42] <NiklasofVienna__> !fglrx
[02:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:43] <NiklasofVienna__> !democracy
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about democracy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:43] <zorglu_> is this some new kind of spam ? :)
[02:44] <towync> probably lol
[02:44] <towync> but helpful spam =)
[02:44] <towync> is anyone running beryl already?
[02:45] <zorglu_> some people are:)
[02:45] <eilker> towync: yes
[02:47] <towync> can anyone help with this: I'm getting black screen after typing beryl-manager, not sure what to do now =)
[02:48] <towync> not entirely black screen, I still see whatever window I had open, and also the kmenu panel bars
[02:48] <towync> but I can't click to switch between windows, or much else =(
[02:49] <zorglu_> have you tried #ubuntu-xgl ?
[02:49] <towync> that channel?
[02:49] <martinju> hmm,.. i get launcher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.  when trying to use konqueror... anyone know what i can do to fix that?
[02:49] <towync> I'm in that channel #ubuntu-xgl already tho, not many people there
[02:49] <towync> I asked =) hehe
[02:49] <towync> how are u getting the konqueror error
[02:50] <martinju> when i type a url and hit enter
[02:50] <zorglu_> towync: then i dont know :)
[02:50] <towync> o, i never had that
[02:50] <zorglu_> for konq error, try rebooting
[02:50] <towync> okies ty anyway tho =)
[02:50] <martinju> ok
[02:51] <towync> 6am here
[02:51] <humbolt> would feisty kernel run in edgy? I mean, are there any critical differences in the kernel API between edgy and feisty kernel? something like hotplug being replaced by udev?
[02:52] <towync> sorry I'm too much of a newbie to know =(
[02:52] <zorglu_> why amarok freeze when i launch gprof ? :)
[02:53] <towync> but stick around, I'll be around lol to keep ya comanied
[02:53] <eilker> zorglu_ , i hate amarok
[02:53] <zorglu_> i hate gprof :)
[02:53] <eilker> :))
[02:53] <towync> zorglu hates them both now =)
[02:53] <zorglu_> hehe :)
[02:53] <towync> I'll join the crowd, I hate them too lol, even tho i never tried them yet
[02:54] <eilker> townync: btw, there are beryl forums, u can search from there too
[02:54] <zorglu_> well i could add 512mbyte of ram on the box and have it solved :)
[02:56] <towync> =)
[03:03] <turitoro> hola
[03:03] <dieguix> hola
[03:03] <turitoro> que es esto?
[03:03] <dieguix> no lo s.
[03:03] <turitoro> everyone here is on Linux
[03:04] <dieguix> creo que no
[03:04] <turitoro> no lo sabe?bueno
[03:05] <turitoro> y que se hace aqui? es solo para charlar?
[03:05] <XVampireX> EVERYONE HERE IS ON LINUX!
[03:05] <XVampireX> yes
[03:05] <dieguix> si
[03:05] <dieguix> thanks
[03:05] <turitoro> I'm on ubuntu
[03:06] <turitoro> but I can't use it very well
[03:06] <dieguix> cuanta gente puede haber aqui?
[03:06] <turitoro> I'm new in Linux
[03:07] <turitoro> And I've problems with codecs
[03:07] <XVampireX> !restrictedformats
[03:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:07] <turitoro> the only one I can play is mp3
[03:07] <turitoro> with xmms
[03:08] <XVampireX> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:08] <hastesaver> zorglu_, there is some warning I get when I start amarok from the terminal about "don't run gdb, valgrind etc. on this. Use amarokapp" instead. Might that help?
[03:08] <zorglu_> hastesaver: thanks :)
[03:09] <zorglu_> hastesaver: in fact i was complaining because i am bored, i know the problem (aka gprof use too much memory)
[03:09] <hastesaver> zorglu_, ok :-)
[03:09] <zorglu_> hastesaver: but thansk for your will to help :)
[03:09] <hastesaver> zorglu_, is that something wrong with gprof or an inherent "feature" of profilers?
[03:10] <zorglu_> hastesaver: well the issue is in gdb and gprof, aka they use a LOT of memory, like 330mbyte of rss when i launch them
[03:11] <zorglu_> hastesaver: this is a lot for a 512mbyte box:)
[03:11] <zorglu_> gdb issue is that it load all the symbol in memory before even prompting the user
[03:12] <zorglu_> and with large code, all the symbol is like 330mbyte :)
[03:12] <zorglu_> btw is there a gui tool to view the gprof output
[03:13] <hastesaver> zorglu_, kprof
[03:13] <zorglu_> will you be my life saver ? :)
[03:16] <zorglu_> kprof star tmy launching gprof
[03:16] <zorglu_> i can tell :) my box freeze for like 5min when gprof sttart                :)
[03:19] <turitoro> WOW
[03:19] <turitoro> it works
[03:19] <zorglu_> youhou!!! :)
[03:19] <turitoro> installing VLC!
[03:20] <turitoro> The clockwork orange, it runs
[03:20] <CaBlGuY> there a command line util. I can use like ipconfig to disconnect my connection?
[03:20] <turitoro> also a stupid like me can use the pinguin
[03:20] <zorglu_> "ifdown eth0" <- this will disable eth0 network interface
[03:21] <zorglu_> ok reboot time to free memory leak :)
[03:21] <CaBlGuY> zorglu_:  and to reestablish connection?
[03:21] <zorglu_> ifup eth0
[03:21] <CaBlGuY> ok..  thanks
[03:26] <towync> what's gprof
[03:26] <angasule> towync: gnu profiler, it's for programmers
[03:28] <martinju> is there an easy way to set up printer sharing on ubuntu? got a Macbook that needs access to the printer
[03:28] <towync> angasule: thx
[03:29] <XVampireX> martinju: samba?
[03:29] <XVampireX> !samba
[03:29] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:29] <XVampireX> No just windows though, I think Macs too
[03:29] <XVampireX> not^
[03:29] <towync> is ubotu a bot?
[03:30] <towync> sorry, just asking
[03:30] <XVampireX> yes
[03:30] <towync> cuz there seemed to be bots earlier
[03:30] <towync> cool
[03:30] <XVampireX> ubotu and ubugto are bots
[03:30] <towync> cool =)
[03:30] <ubotu> and: Auto Nice Daemon. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.2-1.1 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 132 kB
[03:30] <XVampireX> LOL
[03:30] <towync> hehe
[03:30] <towync> o i have a problem with beryl (led me here lol)
[03:31] <XVampireX> #ubuntu-xgl
[03:31] <towync> do people know how to fix black screen on beryl-manager
[03:31] <towync> yeah i tried that room
[03:31] <towync> less people there, seemed to be sleeping
[03:31] <XVampireX> Those who know how to fix a black screen will be in there
[03:31] <XVampireX> but let me try
[03:31] <towync> cool thx
[03:32] <towync> i'll be in that room too
[03:32] <XVampireX> towync: You added anything to /etc/X11/xorg.conf or not?
[03:32] <XVampireX> And are you using AIGLX or XGL?
[03:33] <ubuntu_> i have a problem during boot process, i receive an error saying /etc/var... is read only file system and the boot stops after that
[03:33] <XVampireX> ubuntu_: Fresh install?
[03:34] <towync> i'm using aiglx
[03:34] <towync> i think that came with kubuntu edgy
[03:34] <towync> but i also think during the process of following install guides
[03:34] <towync> i put on xgl too
[03:34] <towync> lol
[03:34] <towync> so i don't really know right now =) except when I run beryl-manager
[03:34] <XVampireX> Did you uninstall XGL?
[03:34] <XVampireX> And do you have nvidia?
[03:34] <XVampireX> or ATI?
[03:35] <towync> i get messages like: xgl absent, nvidia, present
[03:35] <towync> i have nvidia
[03:35] <towync> and then there seems to be something wrong with composites
[03:35] <XVampireX> Ok, you're not running an XGL session, so it doesn't mtater
[03:35] <towync> the final error is beryl: No composites
[03:35] <XVampireX> matter^
[03:35] <towync> cool
[03:35] <XVampireX> You need composite extension in your xorg.conf file
[03:35] <towync> but when I change xorg.conf, composite section to enable
[03:36] <towync> that's when it became black screen + freeze, before that it just freezes
[03:36] <Skrot> Hi. Im having some problems removing a package. Is there a way to force it?
[03:36] <Skrot> "subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1"
[03:36] <XVampireX> Skrot: That doesn't say much
[03:36] <towync> i'm too much of a newbie for that =) just keeping you comanied, someone else might know =)
[03:37] <towync> that was to skrot
[03:37] <towync> hehe
[03:37] <XVampireX> towync: it doesn't give any output? Just freezes?
[03:37] <towync> yeah
[03:37] <martinju> sigh.... i just cant get printer sharing to work :/
[03:37] <towync> the background is black
[03:37] <XVampireX> !printer
[03:37] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:37] <Skrot> XVampireX: Can I enable more verbose or something when removing with apt-get?
[03:38] <towync> wow ubotu is really nice bot lol
[03:38] <towync> i think apt-get -v works
[03:38] <hastesaver_> Skrot, how much more verbose do you want? It already says everything it's doing, right?
[03:38] <XVampireX> Skrot: You can but you don't neccessarily need are there any lines besides "subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1"
[03:38] <towync> but i'm not sure about more verbose
[03:38] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks! :)
[03:39] <Skrot> http://pastebin.ca/265656 this is all it says
[03:39] <towync> o back to the beryl thing, background is black, mouse works, can't tab between windows i had opened, but i can see those windows and the k menu bar
[03:40] <towync> also there's the emeral sign that i can't click on tray
[03:40] <towync> and everything else is frozen
[03:40] <XVampireX> For those of you who don't know, you can uninstall packages with dpkg, too.
[03:40] <martinju> no printer sharing howto for edgy yet... crap
[03:40] <XVampireX> apt-get is just a frontend to dpkg and sometimes it can mess up uninstallations
[03:40] <XVampireX> and even installations
[03:40] <hastesaver_> XVampireX, and conversely, too
[03:41] <Skrot> XVampireX: sudo dpkg --remove gmediaserver says the same though :)
[03:41] <towync> when is feisty o ut
[03:41] <Skrot> and I need it removed
[03:41] <hastesaver_> !feisty
[03:41] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is pre-alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[03:41] <h3sp4wn> Or you can use only dpkg and aptitude (apt-get seems useless to me)
[03:41] <h3sp4wn> (unless you need apt-get source)
[03:41] <towync> ic
[03:41] <towync> feisty should include beryl/compriz pre configuesd hehe
[03:41] <XVampireX> Skrot: Yeah, I knew it wouldn't help, what happens here is that it fails to stop the script, thus it fails to remove it
[03:41] <hastesaver_> towync, it will
[03:41] <towync> nice =)
[03:42] <Skrot> XVampireX: How do I go about to get it removed then?
[03:42] <towync> now if i could get beryl to work now lol =)
[03:42] <vinicri> it's a dumb question, but trying to execute a windows aplication with wine, the expression "Program Files" either "Program%20Files" didn't work. what is the correct?
[03:42] <kaatil> hi all
[03:42] <towync> *logging off* i might freeze out starting beryl hehe
[03:42] <XVampireX> Skrot: Find the buggy script and try to manually stop it
[03:42] <towync> thx everyone, see you guys around
[03:43] <Skrot> XVampireX: I would think it should be /etc/init.d/gmediaserver which stops without any error output
[03:43] <XVampireX> do
[03:43] <XVampireX> sudo /etc/init.d/gmediaserver stop
[03:43] <h3sp4wn> so look at which part is failing and force the script to exit 0
[03:43] <Skrot> "Stopping gmediaserver:"
[03:43] <Skrot> and thats it
[03:43] <XVampireX> does it say ok?
[03:44] <Skrot> no, it says nothing
[03:44] <XVampireX> It's stuck?
[03:44] <Skrot> I get returned to "magnus@frigg:~$" again
[03:45] <XVampireX> Hmm
[03:47] <XVampireX> try to purge it
[03:47] <XVampireX> I had some packages like these, I forgot how to uninstall them, I guess :P
[03:47] <XVampireX> But I'll figure it out
[03:47] <Skrot> I've tried purging
[03:48] <h3sp4wn> Skrot: look in /var/lib/dpkg/info/foo{pre,post}inst
[03:48] <h3sp4wn> Skrot: Find out which part is failing and either comment out the line or change it to echo
[03:50] <Skrot> h3sp4wn: The line "invoke-rc.d gmediaserver stop" in /var/lib/dpkg/info/gmediaserver.prerm fails
[03:50] <h3sp4wn> Skrot: change it to echo invoke-rc.d gmediaserver stop
[03:51] <Skrot> ah, it's gone =)
[03:51] <zorglu_> hastesaver_: is kprof supposed to work ? i mean i got nothing out of it, aka it open the window and doesnt display more. even when i provide it the file from 'gprof -b myexe'
[03:51] <Skrot> I just echoed "ok"
[03:51] <zorglu_> hastesaver_: i noticed it was quite old
[03:51] <h3sp4wn> Skrot: then try to remove it (should work)
[03:51] <Skrot> it did :)
[03:52] <h3sp4wn> The quality control on some of these scripts is not good
[03:52] <hastesaver_> zorglu_, I don't know :-)
[03:52] <zorglu_> hastesaver_: hehe ok :)
[03:52] <zorglu_> hastesaver_: do you know who will know ?
[03:52] <heinkel_111> anybody know if hewlett packard produces linux compatible scanners?
[03:53] <heinkel_111> what is their reputation
[03:53] <heinkel_111> ?
[03:53] <Dr_willis> heinkel_111,  a lot depends on the scanner.
[03:53] <h3sp4wn> depends on what model - most of the scsi ones work pretty well
[03:53] <Dr_willis> I have a HP 1210v all-in-one printer-scanner that works ok.
[03:53] <Dr_willis> for a $99 printer/scanner - its useable. :)
[03:53] <Dr_willis> check out the SANE homepage.
[03:53] <heinkel_111> i am looking at a HP ScanJet 4890 fotoskanner 4800*9600dpi, filmskanner
[03:54] <h3sp4wn> heinkel_111: I have a nikon scsi filmscanner that definately works
[03:54] <h3sp4wn> heinkel_111: (inherited it)
[03:54] <heinkel_111> SANE hompage? what about insane ones? :P
[03:54] <Dr_willis> I need to track down a 'negative' scanner some day...
[03:54] <Dr_willis> !sane
[03:54] <ubotu> sane: scanner graphical frontends. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.14-1 (edgy), package size 103 kB, installed size 324 kB
[03:54] <heinkel_111> Dr Willis: this one i am looking at is just that
[03:54] <BluesKaj> anyone know of a repos for DEVEDE 26 ...I can't figure out how to make the "config" command work after extracting tar files , in order to install it.
[03:55] <h3sp4wn> Dr_willis: That is what I have (that scans negatives)
[03:55] <Dr_willis> Yea - my mom needs to scan a bunch of old negatives.. told her to take them to a photo place and let them do the work.. and put the scans on a dvd for her.
[03:55] <Dr_willis> save ME a lot of time.
[03:55] <heinkel_111> h3sp4wn and Dr_willis: I don't have a SCSI interface on  my comp so I guess that is out of the question
[03:56] <h3sp4wn> heinkel_111: Cards just for the scanner are cheap
[03:56] <CaBlGuY> !pastebin
[03:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:56] <h3sp4wn> heinkel_111: The expensive ones are the ones with the boot rom's
[03:56] <heinkel_111>  yea, but I already have a lot of usb 2.0 ports for such tasks...
[03:57] <CaBlGuY> k, new question...  what the hell are all these connections???   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35180/
[03:57] <sadyk> !edgy
[03:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[03:58] <CaBlGuY> anyone that has a clue and can tell me, please speak up..
[03:58] <CaBlGuY> robotgeek:  u up and around?
[03:58] <Dr_willis> heinkel_111,  Check the "SANE" web site for supported scanners and whats new/supported/Notsupported
[03:59] <heinkel_111> Dr_willis: will do!
[03:59] <Dr_willis> I need a scanner i can mount on the wall - that looks like a picture frame. :)
[04:00] <Dr_willis> that would save me some desk space
[04:00] <CaBlGuY> ok, anyone else...  can tell me what those connections are???  anyone...
[04:00] <Dr_willis> /tmp/hald-local/dbus-rGHMFUoKxD
[04:00] <Dr_willis> hald and dbus are the various hardware/detection/automounting/thinggies I think. :)
[04:01] <CaBlGuY> Dr_willis:  U talkin ta me...
[04:01] <Dr_willis> how did you even 'detect' those.
[04:05] <CaBlGuY> ble..  I'll come back later..
[04:10] <martinju> hmm... still cant get printer sharing to work... anyone feel like helping me?
[04:10] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. CrossMeta -  Add-on File Systems EXT2, XFS and Reiserfs for Windows 2000, 2003 and XP
[04:11] <Dr_willis> thats worth bookmarking :)
[04:11] <Dr_willis> http://www.crossmeta.com/crossmeta.html          wonder how well it works.
[04:12] <martinju> mp3 and divx is working... at last... now for sharing printers :D
[04:13] <Dr_willis> i went the eay way and bought a little network-thing for my printer :)  a Dlink Printserver.
[04:13] <martinju> hehe... ive got a slug i could use, but thats just avoiding something that has a solution already :)
[04:15] <zorglu_> !search sysprof
[04:15] <ubotu> Found:
[04:16] <martinju> must... beat... computer
[04:16] <martinju> !sharing
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sharing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:16] <zorglu_> !info sysprof-module
[04:16] <ubotu> Package sysprof-module does not exist in any distro I know
[04:16] <zorglu_> evil distro :)
[04:17] <zorglu_> !info sysprof-module-sources
[04:17] <ubotu> Package sysprof-module-sources does not exist in any distro I know
[04:18] <zorglu_> !info sysprof-module-source
[04:18] <ubotu> sysprof-module-source: Source for the sysprof module. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-2 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 80 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 ia64)
[04:21] <zorglu_> q. what is the name of the package to get the kernel header ?
[04:22] <zorglu_> like to compile kernel module ?
[04:23] <zorglu_> !kernel
[04:23] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:23] <h3sp4wn> zorglu_: linux-headers-`uname -r`
[04:23] <zorglu_> tahnks
[04:28] <Where> Odd; after upgrading to edgy, text in openoffice.org (including text on the menus) looks oddly pixelated. I tried turning on anti-aliasing to no avail. Does anybody have any other ideas?
[04:29] <julle> Does anyone know how to fix the problem of only getting 800x600 resolution?
[04:30] <BluesKaj> julie . system settings
[04:31] <julle> BluesKaj: well that doent work
[04:31] <julle> i only get 800x600 in nvidia settings too
[04:31] <julle> but when i rebooted my comp yesterday i got 1280x1024 and after that reboot it was back to 800x600 so strange
[04:32] <BluesKaj>  monitor & display /admin mode/
[04:34] <guiden> I want to learn programme stuff in opengl, anyone who could to recommend good websites?
[04:35] <adz21c> guiden: http://nehe.gamedev.net/ and if ur serious then get the Red book
[04:35] <guiden> Ok thanks
[04:36] <adz21c> Hi, I am running Edgy amd64, I can't install KDevelop because some debs are missing (or at least the versions of the debs don't match up), am I missing a Repo or something?
[04:37] <Where> adz21c: do you have the universe repo?
[04:38] <adz21c> should do, hold on
[04:38] <adz21c> yup
[04:39] <julle> BluesKaj: I can only choose 800x600
[04:39] <julle> In Admin MOde
[04:39] <adz21c> Where: the debs i see her Kdeveop, Kdevelop-doc (both 3.3.5) and Kdevelop-data, Kdevelop-dev (3.3.4)
[04:40] <BluesKaj> julie, have you configured your monitor and graphics card in the the system settings/monitor & display/admin mode ?
[04:40] <adz21c> Where: no well i got that completely wrong but same idea, the versions don't match
[04:44] <binks_> ok when i exit adept it keeps var/lib/dpkg/lock locked how can i fx or unlock this
[04:44] <guiden> adz21c: Do you think I should learn to programme opengl instead of learning blender?
[04:44] <h3sp4wn> binks_: /msg ubotu adept crash fix
[04:44] <Jucato> !adept crash fix | binks_
[04:44] <ubotu> binks_: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[04:45] <binks_> mint cheers
[04:45] <adz21c> guiden: since i don't know what blender is I can't say, gimmie a clue cos i might be just being slow lol, but after doing DirectX at Uni I looked at OpenGL, not done much with it but I just find it interesting and useful since its cross-plat
[04:45] <Lynoure> guiden: What's your end goal in either?
[04:46] <guiden> make a game
[04:46] <guiden> science game
[04:46] <h3sp4wn> guiden: Learn matrix algebra before you start
[04:47] <Lynoure> guiden: blender is probably fun and useful for that, but I have heard bad things about the blender game engine
[04:47] <guiden> Ok, I know alot of math and stuff so that should't be a problem
[04:47] <johey> With Edgy, Firefox 2 won't always start when I click its icon or type firefox from a shell. No message. It just quits. Why?
[04:47] <guiden> adz21c blender is a 3d modeling program
[04:47] <Lynoure> I have no idea what a science game would be, anyway
[04:47] <guiden> your a scientist that do cool experimetnts in a lab,
[04:48] <guiden> warcraft angle
[04:48] <guiden> :)
[04:48] <AdrianHensler> johey - is it already running? "ps -ef | grep firefox"
[04:48] <Lynoure> guiden: Choose experiments that cannot be done at a small budget, otherwise it's more fun in real life than in a game
[04:49] <johey> AdrianHensler: Yes, I just found out that so is the case. After killing it, I can start a new one.
[04:49] <guiden> hehe well, just for fun, maybe I'll do a adventure game out of it, final fantasy type
[04:50] <johey> AdrianHensler: Why is it still running? It should quit when I quit it, shoudln't it?
[04:50] <Lynoure> guiden: IMO Final Fantasy was hardly an adventure game but unfortunately it seem the classic adventure game genre is dead
[04:51] <AdrianHensler> Not sure johey; perhaps it's just not quitting correctly?
[04:51] <johey> AdrianHensler: Probably not :\
[04:51] <Lynoure> guiden: good luck, anyway. And feel free to bounce some idea at #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:52] <AdrianHensler> Does it happen a lot johey? Maybe it's a bad extension?
[04:52] <guiden> hehe ok :)
[04:52] <adz21c> Hi, I am running Edgy amd64, I can't install KDevelop because some debs are missing (or at least the versions of the debs don't match up), am I missing a Repo or something?
[04:52] <johey> AdrianHensler: Quite a lot. It might be a bad extension. I have a few of those.
[04:53] <johey> AdrianHensler: Thanks for the hints. I might try to disable some of them.
[04:56] <buz_> i'm trying to build kernel 2.6.19
[04:57] <buz_> the package gets build just fine but it won't boot
[05:09] <DamnedFreak> Some time ago, I heard that (k)ubuntu stores the root pw in a plain text file
[05:09] <DamnedFreak> is this true?
[05:09] <Jucato> false. there is no root password in the first place
[05:09] <DamnedFreak> but i can set it?
[05:09] <h3sp4wn> DamnedFreak: by default there is no root password (if there is one set it would be in /etc/shadow which is not world readable)
[05:09] <CVirus> DamnedFreak: it was a bug
[05:09] <Jucato> ah that one. an old bug
[05:10] <CVirus> DamnedFreak: it used to save the password that you choose during the installation
[05:10] <Jucato> very very old bug.
[05:10] <DamnedFreak> okay i see
[05:10] <DamnedFreak> :)
[05:10] <Jucato> iirc, late in Breezy or very early Dapper. it has been fixed
[05:10] <DamnedFreak> but there is no problem to set one (using passwd or so)?
[05:11] <h3sp4wn> DamnedFreak: Not if you only do administration via the cli
[05:11] <Jucato> !sudo | DamnedFreak
[05:11] <ubotu> DamnedFreak: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:11] <h3sp4wn> DamnedFreak: Might mess up the pointless gui admin tools though
[05:13] <DamnedFreak> hm okay
[05:15] <binks_> can i get bash tp append some text into a file
[05:15] <h3sp4wn> some are patched to work with sudo (breaking working with an enabled root account)
[05:15] <h3sp4wn> binks_: echo whatever >> file
[05:16] <h3sp4wn> binks_: or you can use cat or awk or whatever you need first
[05:16] <binks_> no i need to write to a file
[05:16] <h3sp4wn>  >> appends
[05:17] <Jucato>  > creates/overwrites
[05:18] <binks_> i need a script to add -noask to the end of tovid.config so i would write echo -noask >> ~/.tovid/tovid.config
[05:19] <spranger> hello folks, i an ubuntu-newbee from germany and slowly getting mad about my problem: i need to set up an vpn.connection ton an ipcop-server (working really good with tauvpn) any ideas how to do it?
[05:19] <adz21c> Hi, I am running Edgy amd64, I can't install KDevelop because some debs are missing (or at least the versions of the debs don't match up), am I missing a Repo or something?
[05:20] <h3sp4wn> binks_: that would add -noask on a line by itself at the end of that file
[05:21] <binks_> thats what  want cheers
[05:23] <binks_> thanks tested and working cheers
[05:23] <julle> !nvidiaa
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidiaa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <julle> !nvidia
[05:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:24] <BluesKaj> just an annoying thing with the Konverstion IRC client. Is there a setting to recall a line back to the input box like mirc and xchat?
[05:24] <Jucato> BluesKaj: like pressing Up?
[05:25] <BluesKaj> yes
[05:25] <Jucato> works here
[05:26] <BluesKaj> ok, i must have turned it off somehow ,but I can't find the right reset...been trying for ages :(
[05:27] <binks_> can you quote someone using konversation
[05:27] <kraut> moin
[05:27] <Jucato> BluesKaj: I'm not sure if it even has a setting to turn it off. You might want to ask in #konversatio
[05:27] <Jucato> err
[05:27] <Jucato> #konversation
[05:28] <spranger> Does anybody know something about vpn / Ipsec????
[05:29] <h3sp4wn> spranger: What do you need to know ?
[05:29] <h3sp4wn> spranger: Client or server ?
[05:30] <spranger> I trying to set up a connection to my ipcop-gateway for days (!), nothing is working, under w2k (tau-vpn) everything is perfect. Any Idea for a working GUI?
[05:31] <h3sp4wn> spranger: What is ipcop ?
[05:32] <spranger> ipcop is a linux-based firewall and gateway (ipsec), working very fine, secures my business-network
[05:32] <Gecko> Hey there. My games have become slower suddently, is there any smart way of checking what takes up my cpu and ram? Neither top nor ksysguard is very verbose
[05:32] <h3sp4wn> spranger: Which ipsec implimentation does it use ?
[05:33] <h3sp4wn> spranger: login to it (and see what is ps auxw) pluto = freeswan / openswan racoon = kame isakmpd = openbsd stack
[05:33] <BluesKaj> Jucato, just for everyones info: Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Behavior -> General -> Input box expands with text
[05:33] <spranger> Hm - i will try to find it out, havent touched it for al long time cause its perfect ...
[05:34] <tobias> j
[05:34] <Jucato> BluesKaj: ah so that's what "expands" meant there...
[05:34] <h3sp4wn> spranger: perfect means different things to different people
[05:35] <h3sp4wn> spranger: If its using linux 2.4 it cannot support the newer better ipsec implimentation
[05:35] <h3sp4wn> s
[05:36] <spranger> perfect means no trouble and doing what it should, running stable since several moths
[05:36] <spranger> i think it uses 2.4
[05:37] <h3sp4wn> Perfect to me means not using openswan which leaks memory like hell (at least prior to 2.4.6)
[05:38] <lzap> hello, I upgraded to Edgy and the panel is so unstable! it crashes every hour. I get some Kicker message and sometimes it reload and sometimes not. what should I do to load it again? I have no panel now! :-(
[05:38] <Dr_willis> lzap,  try making a new user. see if they have the same issue.
[05:38] <lzap> do you have your panels stable?
[05:38] <spranger> but the thing is that no gui seems to work  - kvpnc is somewhat buggy and seems to produce config-files that can not be read by newer implementations and so on ...
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> spranger: So forget the gui
[05:39] <Dr_willis> lzap,  clean install here.. no crashing issues.
[05:40] <h3sp4wn> spranger: find out what the ipcop is set for and set it up using ipset
[05:40] <h3sp4wn> spranger: Are you definately using openswan not openvpn ?
[05:40] <lzap> Dr_willis: but I do not want to drop all my settings what should I do? :-(
[05:41] <spranger> ipcop contains FreeS/Wan
[05:41] <binks_> im trying to write a howto for tovid is there a way of copying a window(terminal) so i can show it in the forums in doze i can do alt - printscreen
[05:42] <spranger> I tried openvpn, openswan, racoon, cisco ...
[05:42] <h3sp4wn> spranger: freeswan is no longer maintained
[05:45] <spranger> i read it. By the way - maybe the difficulties are the wlan ..., it seems to be a bit tricky to handle for edgy
[05:46] <binks_> is there a way to do a screen dump in linux
[05:46] <h3sp4wn> spranger: Are you using a wireless bridge or anything ?
[05:48] <spranger> no, just a normal DSL-Router and an attached wlan-router (serving my home with Wlan-accessability), the ipsec-Server is quite far away
[05:49] <heinkel_111> binks, if you use kubuntu you can printscreen and paste it
[05:49] <heinkel_111> or use Ksnapshot
[05:49] <binks_> ksnapshot just found it thanks anyhow
[05:50] <binks_> cheers mate
[05:50] <xsacha> hey anyone heard of this? Coherency?
[05:50] <xsacha> "Shows Windows applications as if they were Mac ones. Try it and enjoy best of both worlds truly at the same time. No more switching between Windows to Mac OS."
[05:52] <HymnToLife> lmao
[05:55] <Dr_willis> lzap,  this is a 'test' to see IF its a setting issue.
[05:56] <Dr_willis> lzap,  if the new user has same problems. that shows its not a 'messed up user setting' issue
[05:56] <Dr_willis> xsacha,  sounds like another xp - OS-X theme thang to me.
[05:56] <h3sp4wn> spranger: The router needs to have ipsec passthrough at a minimum
[05:58] <xsacha> Dr_willis: theme? naah it has the windows apps appearing in macosx
[05:58] <h3sp4wn> spranger: You might be better off asking in the ipcop channel if there is one (as they will know what timeouts and key lengths and stuff they use)
[05:58] <Dr_willis> xsacha,  You are rather vague as to what OS the thing is even running on. :) heh
[05:59] <h3sp4wn> spranger:
[05:59] <h3sp4wn> spranger: Or install an alternative firmware onto the router and run the ipsec there (as I do)
[05:59] <Dr_willis> xsacha,   amaze your xp users -->  http://osx.portraitofakite.com/
[06:01] <spranger> it is working under windows (very fine!), i canm use the whole remote network. The only thing i want to realize is a PSK-based connection - as simple as possible. I just startet
[06:01] <xsacha> Dr_willis: yuck, mac layout..
[06:01] <spranger> kvpnc, and this is an excerpt of the logfile:
[06:01] <spranger> Info: [freeswan]  ipsec_setup: insmod /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/net/ipv4/ah4.ko ipsec_setup: insmod /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/net/ipv4/esp4.ko ipsec_setup: insmod /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/net/ipv4/ipcomp.ko ipsec_setup: insmod /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/net/ipv4/tunnel4.ko ipsec_setup: insmod /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/net/ipv4/xfrm4_tunnel.ko ipsec_setup: insmod
[06:01] <spranger> /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/net/xfrm/xfrm_user.ko ipsec_setup: insmod /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock.ko ipsec_setup: FATAL: Error inserting padlock (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock.ko): No such device ipsec_setup: auto=manual search: (/etc/ipsec.conf, line 20) illegal auto value "yes" ipsec_setup: unable to determine what conns to manual --up; none done
[06:01] <Dr_willis> xsacha,  yea.. thats an very interesting done web site. :P
[06:02] <xsacha> yeah, well done but bad layout :P
[06:02] <Dr_willis> guys at work thought i had an APple Laptop after i installed that stuff. and i STILL dont see whats so 'great' about OS-X
[06:03] <spranger> You are running ipsec on your router, transparent for the rest?
[06:04] <h3sp4wn> spranger: One uses openswan the other isakmpd
[06:05] <DamnedFreak> Ouh, that sucks. I just installed Kubuntu and so, played around an so on, restarted the OS and now the resolution sucks. I can't increase it more than 640x480 or so. before i had it on 1024x768
[06:05] <DamnedFreak> Oo
[06:05] <h3sp4wn> spranger: Some stuff goes thru ipsec normal traffic does not
[06:06] <spranger> hm, is it an PC-based router or such a little box like the normal ones?
[06:06] <h3sp4wn> asus wl500-gd - with openwrt - uclibc / openswan 2.4.6 (one side) the other side is netgear wgt634u openwrt kamikaze with isakmpd
[06:07] <h3sp4wn> mipsel based home router
[06:08] <spranger> sounds good - is it working good?
[06:08] <h3sp4wn> fine limitation is 400k/s (by the hardware)_
[06:08] <h3sp4wn> http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware?action=show&redirect=toh
[06:08] <h3sp4wn> If your router on there you can do likewise
[06:09] <spranger> thats ok for business
[06:09] <lzap> Dr_willis: thnx
[06:10] <spranger> good idea, i think this would do for me - no fuzzing around anymore!
[06:14] <spranger> Thanx for Help!
[06:16] <Phantom12> hi guys
[06:16] <oem> ive downloaded easy ubuntu but cant seam to get it to work i get this error:Unable to determine desktop environment, falling back to gksudo
[06:17] <Dr_willis> !easyubuntu
[06:17] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[06:17] <oem> thanx
[06:17] <Dr_willis> BEST is to learn how to install/do the stuff manually. :)
[06:18] <Phantom12> hey! i have installed kubuntu alongside WINDOWS & I wanna remove it,how can i do it?
[06:18] <h3sp4wn> Phantom12: Remove windows ? or kubuntu ?
[06:18] <Phantom12> i wanna remove kubuntu
[06:19] <DamnedFreak> we do not support that :D
[06:19] <h3sp4wn> Phantom12: ask ##windows
[06:19] <oem> ive dont it all before its just a lot of typeing/downloading and my computer breakes every few days because i mess with things i shouldent,how do i switch to the easyubunt irc?
[06:19] <h3sp4wn> Phantom12: Or just boot into recovery mode (from the xp cd)
[06:19] <Phantom12> ok thanks
[06:20] <oem> there a book that might help you "unsumaning bill gates a begginers guide to necromancy"
[06:20] <h3sp4wn> Phantom12: run fixboot and fixmbr and delete the partitions from in windows and create new ones
[06:20] <Dr_willis> People seem to think that thee sould be a 'remove icon' on the windows desktop to remove linux. :)
[06:21] <h3sp4wn> there should be a button to cat /dev/urandom to any windows partition found
[06:21] <Phantom12> can i install linux on AMD Duron pc?
[06:21] <oem> what do i type to go to the easyubuntu irc?
[06:21] <Dr_willis> Phantom12,  linux should work fine on a DUron cpu.
[06:21] <h3sp4wn> oem: /j #easyubuntu
[06:21] <Phantom12> what about Ubuntu
[06:21] <oem> #easyubuntu
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu is 'linux' so that implies.. yes..
[06:23] <oem> why do you want ubuntu what was wrong with kubuntu?
[06:24] <Phantom12> what is the minimum processor speed,ram needed to install ubuntu 6.06LTS
[06:24] <Dr_willis> I normally install both desktops. :)
[06:24] <oem> if your new to linux there relitivly the same thing
[06:24] <Dr_willis> Phantom12,  ive had it working on a Pent 100 laptop with 64mb ram.. SLOWLY... :)
[06:24] <h3sp4wn> If you are new to linux I would go for something that makes you do more (crux or something) and read a basic unix book
[06:24] <Dr_willis> Phantom12,  it can run nicely on about any mondern pc.  My laptop is a antique.
[06:25] <oem> DSL (damn small linux) never tried it but i heard it works well on slow computers
[06:25] <h3sp4wn> http://crux.nu/
[06:25] <Dr_willis> PuppyLinux, or DSL are nice tiny disrtos for old machines.
[06:25] <Dr_willis> or new 'low power' machines
[06:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:26] <oem> i work for a org. that gives out free computers made from e-waste and we install ubuntu on all of them 700mhz seam to work good
[06:26] <Phantom12> now i wanna try RedHat linux where i can find those CDs,i'm in Sri-Lanka
[06:26] <Dr_willis> Phantom12,  try the redhat homepage.
[06:26] <h3sp4wn> Phantom12: You have to pay for redhat
[06:26] <h3sp4wn> Phantom12: Or use centos
[06:26] <notech> Phantom12: believe you mean fedora
[06:27] <h3sp4wn> Phantom12: (centos is redhat without the branding)
[06:27] <h3sp4wn> fedora is not redhat
[06:27] <oem> download the iso from red hat
[06:27] <oem> what are you looking for in a distro of linux?
[06:27] <Phantom12> where i can buy it?
[06:27] <notech> fedora is/was redhat, it's the free version
[06:28] <Dr_willis> Phantom12,  try the redhat homepage......................
[06:28] <oem> whats up with the fnord linux?
[06:28] <Dr_willis> never heard of that one oem
[06:28] <Phantom12> what is the redhat homepage?
[06:29] <h3sp4wn> Fedora is much more bleeding edge than redhat which is pretty conservative (latest RHEL uses 2.6.9 I think)
[06:29] <h3sp4wn> They are not the same codebase
[06:29] <h3sp4wn> centos is redhat without the branding (and hence more like redhat than fedora)
[06:30] <h3sp4wn> Phantom12: www.redhat.com
[06:30] <zorglu_> centos :) i remember the us mayor story :)
[06:30] <zorglu_> centos did good on this story, calm and resaonabke :)
[06:31] <zorglu_> i will call iana because my box say 'port is already bound' :)))))))
[06:32] <oem> Fnord is a Linux distribution designed to be built from source and maintained manually. This allows
[06:32] <oem> the administrator maximum control over the system. Unlike other built-from source systems, Fnord is not a toy; it is intended as a production Linux system
[06:33] <oem> never mind just looked it up
[06:33] <zorglu_> gentoo but more hardcore :)
[06:34] <oem> PHANTOM12 what is it that your looking for in an operating system?
[06:34] <Phantom12> where i can find linux softwares for kubuntu
[06:35] <oem> go to your menu then sytem then adept
[06:35] <oem> so what is it your loking for in a operating system
[06:35] <heinkel_112> is it safe to deinstall / install kde base modules...hoping to get rid of problems?
[06:36] <heinkel_112> i know, it is an old window's users tricks but ...
[06:36] <heinkel_112> X keeps crashing
[06:36] <heinkel_112> anyone else that found Dapper just more stable than edgy?
[06:36] <oem> whats the command line the gnome base files?
[06:37] <oem> for instaling them
[06:38] <PiTcReW> could someone please tell why kaffeine tries playing an mp3 for a second or so and then stops ?
[06:38] <PiTcReW> rhythmbox works
[06:38] <PiTcReW> just not kaffeine
[06:39] <h3sp4wn> heinkel_112: That would not be surprising (as it has twice the development time)
[06:39] <maddoc^> hi
[06:39] <h3sp4wn> heinkel_112: dapper had 8 months edgy 4 months
[06:39] <maddoc^> an1 may pls help me with installing kubuntu?
[06:40] <maddoc^> I have a asus p5w dh deluxe motherboard and edgy stops installing just after few seconds
[06:40] <heinkel_112> h3sp4wn: i am having all sorts of problems and nuisances with kde in kubuntu edgy, is reinstall an option?
[06:40] <PiTcReW> could someone please help me?
[06:40] <Alter-Ego> !mp3
[06:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:40] <ubuntu___> Algum do Brazil?
[06:40] <heinkel_112> h3sp4wn: or roll back to dapper?
[06:40] <heinkel_112> is that difficult
[06:40] <heinkel_112> ?
[06:41] <Alter-Ego> !mp3
[06:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:41] <Sym_Brazil> Algum do Brazil??????
[06:41] <heinkel_112> !br
[06:41] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:41] <heinkel_112> :)
[06:42] <Sym_Brazil> e ae Heinkel
[06:45] <h3sp4wn> heinkel_112: force downgrade you can do it but its not supported
[06:45] <maddoc^> no fix about jmicron and asus p5w dh?
[06:46] <h3sp4wn> maddoc^: Maybe that is fixed if you compile 2.6.19
[06:47] <heinkel_112> h3sp4wn i am just getting frustrated about the stability with kde here, applications keep crashing, startup doesn't run as intended etc, is there anyway to reset my kde?
[06:47] <heinkel_112> to start edgy...
[06:47] <afm\colossus> maddoc^: try appending "all-generic-ide" as a kernel option
[06:47] <h3sp4wn> heinkel_112: I don't know what you mean
[06:48] <maddoc^> I cannot even install
[06:48] <oem> ng that frustrates me is every week when i shut off my computer kubuntu refuses to start back up again
[06:48] <mathieu_> everyone is talking about beryl but i can not find exatly what it is. anyone got a webpage that explains in details, screenshots and videos what it does exactly?
[06:48] <heinkel_112> h3spawn: i was just thinking that edgy was not always this bad, what can i do to bring it back to the starting point?
[06:48] <oem> itll get to the login screen ask for my password then go back to the login screen
[06:49] <heinkel_112> h3sp4wn: is there a reset-settings kde somewhere?
[06:49] <h3sp4wn> heinkel_112: Not that you should use (see the topic of #kde)
[06:49] <h3sp4wn> heinkel_112: Don't delete ~/.kde !
[06:50] <oem> how do i activate the 3d desktop switcher?
[06:50] <mr-roadster> what program can i use to print dvd covers/?
[06:52] <zblach> hey all. quick question. sound fails on my laptop after hibernation
[06:52] <Launchpad-Lap> hiya guys
[06:52] <zblach> any ideas?
[06:52] <oem> anyone know any cool programs in the repos that just make kubuntu lok cooler like the 3d desktop orwhatever?
[06:53] <zblach> oem: 3ddesktop
[06:53] <Launchpad-Lap> i need alittle help.. im runing ubuntu 6.10 and i cant get xchat to run on it because it being x86
[06:53] <Launchpad-Lap> er 6.06 i mean
[06:54] <afm\colossus> huh?
[06:54] <zblach> is there a laptop specific channel?
[06:54] <Launchpad-Lap> sorry i mean im runing 64bit
[06:54] <oem> ive tried typing that into the command window nothing happens
[06:55] <zblach> Launchpad-Lap: are you sure you're using ubuntu?
[06:55] <Launchpad-Lap> yeah
[06:55] <zblach> is it also a computer?
[06:55] <Launchpad-Lap> ubuntu 6.06 64bit
[06:56] <oem> ZBLACH ive tried puttin that into  the command window and nothign happens
[06:57] <oem> how do i send a message to someone in the room?
[06:57] <oem> like i got this: oem: 3ddesktop
[06:58] <Launchpad-Lap> i cant run konversation on ubuntu can i
[06:58] <abattoir> Launchpad-Lap: yeah you can :)
[06:58] <abattoir> oem: like this?
[06:59] <zblach> oem. did you get it?
[06:59] <abattoir> oem: or do you mean a PM?
[06:59] <Launchpad-Lap> u can?
[06:59] <oem> yup
[06:59] <abattoir> Launchpad-Lap: you mean gnome right?
[06:59] <zblach> like, sudo apt-get install 3ddesktop
[06:59] <abattoir> *under gnome
[06:59] <oem> like your doing abatoir
[06:59] <Launchpad-Lap> yea
[06:59] <oem> ZBLACH no i didint
[06:59] <abattoir> oem: type the first few letters of the person's nick, then press tab
[06:59] <zblach> oem: do so
[06:59] <Launchpad-Lap> because im runing 64bit of ubuntu and i dont see any irc client for it
[07:00] <abattoir> oem: that'd complete their nick, and would highlight/notify them
[07:00] <zblach> it doesn't come preinstalled
[07:00] <oem> yea i downloaded it
[07:00] <abattoir> Launchpad-Lap: yeah, you can run konversation under gnome
[07:00] <abattoir> Launchpad-Lap: you can run 'gnome' apps under kde and 'kde' apps under gnome
[07:00] <JETC-> hrmm
[07:00] <mr-roadster> what program can i use to print dvd covers/?
[07:00] <mr-roadster> what program can i use to print dvd covers/?
[07:00] <JETC-> why is the server list in my konversation won't disappear
[07:00] <JETC-> :O
[07:01] <JETC-> oh nvm
[07:01] <JETC-> lag
[07:01] <JETC-> XD
[07:01] <DamnedFreak> O_o
[07:01] <oem> zblach: then i try to run the command in the command window and it says it cant run the comand
[07:02] <oem> abattoir: like this?
[07:02] <abattoir> oem: yes :)
[07:02] <oem> abattoir: thanks
[07:02] <zblach> oem, how exactly? what does it say?
[07:02] <abattoir> oem: no problem
[07:04] <oem> zblach: alt+f2 then 3ddesktop =
[07:04] <oem> 3ddesktop
[07:04] <oem> Could not run the specified command.
[07:04] <zblach> oem: error message. what is it?
[07:04] <zblach> lol
[07:04] <zblach> do this instead
[07:04] <zblach> alt+space 3ddesktop
[07:05] <shulman> what file do I edit to change a file association in kde? When I do it through system settings or change the association through the context menus, it doesn't work
[07:05] <xsacha> 
[07:05] <oem> zblach: alt space pops up katapult and when i type in 3 a calculator starts
[07:05] <zblach> ok. alt+space konsole
[07:06] <zblach> 3dd[tab] 
[07:06] <oem> ok im in konsol
[07:07] <zblach> 3dde{tab}
[07:07] <oem> so 3dde then hit tab?
[07:07] <zblach> yeah
[07:07] <zblach> should auto-complete
[07:07] <zblach> does it?
[07:08] <zblach> oem?
[07:08] <oem> oot@ubuntu:/home/oem# 3ddesk
[07:08] <oem> Attempting to start 3ddesktop server.
[07:08] <oem> 3ddeskd: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libglide3.so.3: undefined symbol: __LINE__
[07:08] <oem> Server not found after waiting 5 seconds.
[07:08] <oem> Could not find server.
[07:08] <oem> Try starting manually (3ddeskd)
[07:08] <oem> root@ubuntu:/home/oem# 3ddeskd
[07:08] <oem> 3ddeskd: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libglide3.so.3: undefined symbol: __LINE_
[07:09] <zblach> tell me about your computer
[07:09] <zblach> specifically, graphic card
[07:09] <oem> lol
[07:09] <abattoir> oem: run it as normal user
[07:09] <abattoir> not as root
[07:09] <JohnFlux> it's grey
[07:09] <JohnFlux> box like
[07:09] <abattoir> :P
[07:09] <abattoir> oem: is there a particular reason you installed in oem mode?
[07:10] <oem> its a laptop with no screenciggerette burns all over it and i get my wifi signall thru a coffee can
[07:10] <mwe> hmm. it seems kde-look.org is down :|
[07:10] <oem> no not really
[07:10] <Launchpad> which is better kon or xchat?
[07:10] <oem> but next time i restart itll go thru the rest of the setup process
[07:10] <oem> whats oem anyways?
[07:10] <JohnFlux> kon
[07:11] <abattoir> oem: Original Equipment Manufacturer
[07:11] <zblach> Organization of Esoteric Mathematicians
[07:11] <abattoir> oem: this mode is meant for companies pre-installing kubuntu etc.
[07:11] <notech> Launchpad: personal choice, try them both and decide for yourself
[07:11] <Owner> Just a really quick questions, I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy and for some reason if I try to upgrade kopete is says it is not available.
[07:12] <oem> tried  in normal user mode and same thing happend
[07:13] <oem> Attempting to start 3ddesktop server.
[07:13] <oem> 3ddeskd: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libglide3.so.3: undefined symbol: __LINE__
[07:13] <oem> Server not found after waiting 5 seconds.
[07:13] <oem> Could not find server.
[07:13] <oem> Try starting manually (3ddeskd)
[07:13] <oem> oem@ubuntu:~$ 3ddeskd
[07:13] <Launchpad> yeah i like konversation better
[07:13] <oem> 3
[07:13] <oem> so the servers just down and i have to wait?
[07:13] <Bubba_Gump> chatzilla :D
[07:13] <voicu> !lisp
[07:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lisp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:16] <Launchpad> does ubuntu/kubuntu support that xld or xle what ever it is?
[07:17] <oem> im using ktorrent what would the best preinstalled search enging be?
[07:18] <cloakable> How do I get glxgears to give me fps?
[07:18] <lupul> hi there. can anyone tell me please what could i do to see all my friends pictures in kopete or gaim
[07:18] <lupul> is it possible?
[07:19] <oem> whats the name of the irc for torents?
[07:20] <mwe> hmm. now kde-look.org is timing out. before it said host does not exist :|
[07:20] <oem> lupul: settings show offline users?
[07:20] <lupul> no
[07:20] <oem> huh i dont know
[07:20] <oem> sorry lupul
[07:20] <lupul> ok
[07:20] <lupul> np
[07:20] <mwe> cloakable: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[07:21] <lupul> at least you tried :)
[07:21] <mwe> cloakable: if you get low fps just make the window smaller or change resolution to something lower and it fly
[07:22] <mwe> it will*
[07:22] <mwe> cloakable: that's one of the main reasons why it sucks as a benchmark
[07:23] <cloakable> :P
[07:23] <ubuntu_> i'm using the live cd bc i killed grub after installing windows.. how do i get it back easiest w/out reinstall?
[07:24] <ubuntu_> i can't get to the disk do do a grub-install which is what i was thinking of doing
[07:24] <cloakable> mwe: Nah, just wanted to check if my nvidia card is working :P And see how well, in general
[07:24] <lumpki> you need a boot disk ubuntu_
[07:25] <oem> anyone know the comand to boot from a cd on a i mac running osx or os9?
[07:25] <ubuntu_> lumpki: the live/install cd won't do?
[07:25] <ubuntu_> oem, hold down "c" ?
[07:25] <lumpki> i use the first slacvkware cd, it not be the only way, but its the way i know
[07:25] <lumpki> *slackware
[07:25] <ubuntu_> oem, while starting up, if memory correct
[07:26] <oem> thanx il try
[07:26] <ubuntu_> np
[07:26] <oem> how hard would it be to network my laptop to another computer and share my wifi conection?
[07:27] <Fragrag> Does Kubuntu have a
[07:27] <Fragrag> firewall included?
[07:27] <notech> cloakable: i don't remember offhand, try -printfps or -fps maybe
[07:28] <oem> anyone set up an astrisks server here?
[07:29] <cloakable> notech: The -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark tag worked :P
[07:30] <jeisma> this morning my computer wouldn't boot and it gave me the message: "BOOT DISK FAILURE. PLEASE ENTER BOOT DISK AND PRESS ENTER"
[07:30] <jeisma> how do i fix this?
[07:30] <jeisma> i just put in my kubuntu cd
[07:30] <jeisma> and none of my old kubuntu data is on here
[07:31] <cloakable> notech: Though -printfps works too
[07:31] <jeisma> anybody know?
[07:31] <notech> cloakable: i knew kubuntu went crazy, but that's rediculous :)
[07:31] <ubuntu_> jeisma, did you mount your hd? the live cd doesn't by default
[07:31] <jeisma> what is mount hd?
[07:32] <jeisma> i already had kubuntu installed and been using it for a couple months now
[07:32] <jeisma> all of a sudden it won't let me boot, so i put this in to get onto konversation and get some help
[07:32] <ubuntu_> as root: mount /dev/hdaX /somedir  (where X is you kubuntu partition so you can see your files)
[07:32] <afm\colossus> jeisma: that message suggests an error at the BIOS/Harddisk-level
[07:33] <ubuntu_> jeisma did you install some other os after kubuntu?
[07:33] <jeisma> ubuntu_ no i didn't
[07:33] <jeisma> afm\colossus what should i do then?
[07:33] <ubuntu_> well i did and that's why i can boot either :P
[07:34] <oem> thats one reason i never shut kubuntu off
[07:34] <ubuntu_> did you mount your drive to see if you files are there?
[07:34] <oem> for me restart = bad things
[07:34] <oem> every fricken time
[07:34] <jeisma> ubuntu_ how do i mout my hd to see if my files are there?
[07:34] <ubuntu_> [18:32]  <ubuntu_> as root: mount /dev/hdaX /somedir  (where X is you kubuntu partition so you can see your files)
[07:34] <oem>  as root: mount /dev/hdaX /somedir  (where X is you kubuntu partition so you can see your files)
[07:35] <oem> jinx
[07:35] <jeisma> how do i know what my X is?
[07:36] <notech> jeisma: you mean version?
[07:36] <ubuntu_> ok so i have my hd mounted and i can see my files. now i need to get grub back on my mbr.. how do i  do that?
[07:37] <jeisma> notech i mean how do i know what my kubuntu partition is?
[07:37] <ubuntu_> jeisma: you can't find out from live cd i think. but that command won't break anything so just try from 1 and work your way up til you get it
[07:37] <jeisma> ok
[07:38] <notech> jeanette: oh, sorry, wasn't paying enough attention. heh
[07:38] <oem> anyone know a free verson of skype?or an astrisks server?
[07:41] <jeisma> i tried up to 8, should i keep going?
[07:41] <fdoving> jeisma: you can try 'cat /proc/partitions'
[07:42] <ubuntu_> no, can't be that high
[07:42] <jeisma> fdoving just that instead of /dev/hdaX/somedir?
[07:43] <ubuntu_> no just type what he said by itself n command line
[07:43] <fdoving> jeisma: no, first run 'cat /proc/partitions' to get a list of partitions.
[07:43] <jeisma> major minor  #blocks  name
[07:43] <jeisma>    7     0     610504 loop0
[07:43] <jeisma> what does that mean?
[07:43] <ubuntu_> i'm curious if that works from live cd
[07:43] <ubuntu_> is your hd sata or ide?
[07:44] <jeisma> not sure
[07:44] <michal> Hi i need help, but i dont speak English very well
[07:44] <ubuntu_> you might need to use sda instead of hda
[07:44] <ubuntu_> the mounting command change the h for 's' as in sda for hda
[07:44] <michal> mount: can't find /dev/hda7 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:45] <michal> "mount: can't find /dev/hda7 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" kubuntu write this
[07:45] <michal> when i open particion
[07:46] <ubuntu_> jeisma: it work?
[07:46] <michal> Are you help me ??
[07:48] <jeisma> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda1/somedir
[07:48] <jeisma> mount: can't find /dev/sda1/somedir in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:48] <jeisma> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda2/somedir
[07:48] <jeisma> mount: can't find /dev/sda2/somedir in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:48] <jeisma> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda3/somedir
[07:48] <jeisma> ubuntu_ am i doing this right?
[07:49] <ubuntu_> sudo mount /devsda2 somedir/ ("somedir" can be any empty dir you make)
[07:49] <ubuntu_> you're missing a space it seems
[07:50] <jeisma> so what do i type exactly then?
[07:50] <jeisma> tpe (space) if there should be a space
[07:50] <jeisma> and "somedir" should just be "dir"?
[07:50] <notech> cloakable: i'm curious, what version of kubuntu are you using?
[07:50] <ubuntu_> ok copy paste the following:
[07:51] <ubuntu_> mkdir myhd
[07:51] <ubuntu_> mount /dev/sda2 myhd/
[07:51] <ubuntu_> cd myhd/
[07:51] <ubuntu_> ls
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[07:52] <ubuntu_> and you should see your files if they're on sda2
[07:52] <jeisma> that's all supposed to be on one line?
[07:52] <ubuntu_> no each a line
[07:52] <ubuntu_> all with "sudo" in front if you're not root
[07:52] <angasule> whenever I visit a page with flash, konqueror asks me to install flash, how do I tell konqueror I NEVER want to install flash?
[07:52] <jeisma> oh
[07:52] <jeisma> ok
[07:53] <ubuntu___>  vv
[07:53] <jeisma> with the first one
[07:53] <jeisma> i got this
[07:53] <jeisma> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir myhd
[07:53] <jeisma> mkdir: cannot create directory `myhd': File exists
[07:53] <jeisma> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[07:54] <ubuntu_> ok so you have already that folder created. go on to the second command
[07:54] <jeisma> i did and they're not existing
[07:55] <jeisma> i tried sda2, sda1, and hda1
[07:55] <jeisma> and now hda2
[07:55] <jeisma> now both hda3, and sda3
[07:56] <jeisma> should i keep going?
[07:56] <[Amigo] > angasule: click property -> modules , and check upload modules ...
[07:57] <ubuntu_> mine is on 3, for example. past 6 or 7 it's hopeless
[07:57] <angasule> [Amigo] : uh? property->modules? was that message for someone else?
[07:57] <ubuntu_> make sure you look in folder myhd/ to see if your partition was mounted
[07:58] <jeisma> how do i see if it was mounted?
[07:58] <[Amigo] > angasule: <angasule> whenever I visit a page with flash, konqueror asks me to install flash, how do I tell konqueror I NEVER want to install flash?
[08:00] <jeisma> ubuntu_ how do i see if it was mounted?
[08:00] <angasule> [Amigo] : where is 'property'? I don't see such a menu in konqueror
[08:01] <ubuntu_> ls myhd to see if folder has files in it
[08:01] <jeisma> i put that in the terminal and it brought up nothing
[08:01] <jeisma> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo ls myhd
[08:01] <jeisma> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls myhd
[08:02] <jeisma> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[08:02] <ubuntu_> what does "ls" print out?
[08:02] <ubuntu_> just by itself
[08:03] <angasule> [Amigo] : I can't receive dcc sends currently, do you mean 'Settings'?
[08:05] <[Amigo] > angasule: Menu ->  Preferences -> Konqur Preferences -> Modules (sorry I have other language of interface )
[08:07] <ubuntu_> jeisma, gotta restart to try some things out.  you doing ok? did it work?
[08:07] <angasule> [Amigo] : spasivo, I think I know what place you mean, but I'm unsure what option to choose
[08:07] <ubuntu_> bbl
[08:08] <[Amigo] > angasule: pogalusta
[08:17] <Digital_Pioneer> Hi. I'm having a little bit of trouble with KDE... KDM works, but once I login, it says "Could not start kstartupconfig. Check your installation."
[08:17] <RogueJediX> Hey. I installed the kdegames package via apt-get, but removed ktuberling afterwards and now apt-get keeps pestering me about autoremoving the rest of the games. How do I make it not do that?
[08:17] <Digital_Pioneer> I've reinstalled kdelibs4c2a thrice now, but no luck.
[08:18] <jeisma> so nobody knows how to fix the "boot disk failure" problem?
[08:18] <Digital_Pioneer> RogueJediX: KDE games are funny that way... You'll have to reinstall it before APT will quit complaining about dependencies.
[08:19] <Digital_Pioneer> (Or you might be able to hack the deps lists, but I wouldn't know how)
[08:19] <RogueJediX> Digital_Pioneer: Damn. I was hoping it wouldn't come to that. Oh, well. Thanks anyway
[08:28] <jeisma> anyone know if i install kubuntu, if i will lose all my data on my hard drive?
[08:28] <jeisma> reinstall*
[08:28] <Alter-Ego> how do i get the speaker icon back on the taskbar ?
[08:29] <jbruckman> !grub
[08:29] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:29] <Alter-Ego> jeisma backup your data.  no, kubuntu will allow you to partition off a section and keep that section intact as i understand it.  backups are good however
[08:29] <jeisma> Alter-Ego how do i backup my data if i can't access it? here's my situation, i have a bootdisk failure problem, im on a kubuntu live cd right now
[08:29] <Alter-Ego> if you re-install, and you don't have a seperate /home partition and this is where your saving your data to, then you may lose your data
[08:30] <Alter-Ego> mount the drive that your having problems with ... /mkdir /mnt/somedir
[08:30] <fdoving> [Amigo] : did you manage to disable the flash-install wizard?
[08:30] <Alter-Ego> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/somedir
[08:31] <jeisma> what is "somedir"?
[08:31] <Alter-Ego> the you will be able to view your data
[08:31] <Alter-Ego> any name you choose
[08:31] <Alter-Ego> so, mkdir /mnt/hda1
[08:31] <Alter-Ego> then mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[08:31] <Alter-Ego> provided your data resides on hda1
[08:31] <jbruckman> ho can I reconfigure grub from the command line?
[08:31] <jbruckman> Hawkwind: ping
[08:32] <jeisma> how do i know where my data resides?
[08:32] <martin__> Where do I set what sould happen when I close my laptop lid?
[08:32] <Alter-Ego> what data are you looking for ?
[08:32] <jeisma> the data on my hard drive
[08:32] <Hawkwind> jbruckman: Pong ?
[08:32] <jeisma> buntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1
[08:32] <jeisma> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[08:32] <jeisma> mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist
[08:32] <jeisma> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[08:33] <[Amigo] > fdoving, no
[08:33] <_mantis_> how do I go about asking a question here?
[08:33] <Alter-Ego> K --> System Settings --> Advanced --> Disk & File Systems
[08:34] <Alter-Ego> _mantis_ don't ask to ask, just ask
[08:34] <cloakable> _mantis_: By askin a question.
[08:34] <fdoving> [Amigo] : ok, copy /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/kcmnspluginrc to ~/.kde/share/config/ - edit ~/.kde/share/config/kcmnspluginrc and delete the last line.
[08:34] <coreymon77> guys
[08:34] <Alter-Ego> gals
[08:34] <fdoving> [Amigo] : the PluginsListFile line..
[08:34] <coreymon77> is there any way at all (such as a program) to create/modify a keyboard layout in kubuntu
[08:35] <Alter-Ego> to say, dovorak ?
[08:35] <jbruckman> Hawkwind: it's Admiral_Chicago, what is that Ktorrent package you gave me
[08:35] <coreymon77> no
[08:35] <coreymon77> i use qwerty
[08:35] <jbruckman> do you recall, it was a 2.0 Snv iirc
[08:35] <coreymon77> iwhat i mean
[08:35] <[Amigo] > fdoving: : I don't need to disable the flash-install wizard?
[08:35] <[Amigo] > fdoving: : I don't need to disable the flash-install wizard! :)
[08:35] <Hawkwind> jbruckman: http://buntudot.org/people/~jdong/ktorrent/svn-dapper/
[08:35] <coreymon77> i want to modify the phonetic hebrew layout a bit
[08:35] <_mantis_> :) hehe ok; kubuntu 6.10 on i686; soundblaster live 24 bit external usb recognized but kmix, etc. always defaulting to onboard intel ICH6 which can't be turned off in BIOS; been searching the net to find a solution
[08:35] <coreymon77> change where a couple keys are
[08:36] <coreymon77> stuff like that
[08:36] <fdoving> [Amigo] : ok, then it's ok..  :)
[08:36] <jeisma> Alter-Ego its called /dev/hdc
[08:36] <jeisma> does that sound right?
[08:36] <jeisma> it's under the heading: Device
[08:36] <frojnd> hello all. I have rpoblem with firefox. Sometimes I can't paste or write link :S I have to restart once or more times that it starts working.... anyone know how to fix this?
[08:36] <jbruckman> Hawkwind: ty
[08:37] <Hawkwind> jbruckman: No problem
[08:37] <coreymon77> is it possible to do that?
[08:37] <coreymon77> modify the layout a bit
[08:37] <jeisma> Alter-Ego: and there's nothing under mount point
[08:37] <coreymon77> because it annoys me slightly
[08:37] <Alter-Ego> . /dev/hdc is your cdrom drive
[08:37] <coreymon77> isnt there some sory of msklc program for kubuntu?
[08:38] <Digital_Pioneer> KDE doesn't work. Upon KDM login, I see "Cannot run kstartupconfig. Check your installation."
[08:38] <Digital_Pioneer> Not exactly a trivial problem..........
[08:38] <_mantis_> hmmm
[08:39] <_mantis_> no great words of wisdom for me ? :)
[08:39] <martin__> When I close the lid of my laptop, the (external) screen becomes blank. Where can I change this?
[08:39] <Alter-Ego> _mantis_ what was your question ?
[08:40] <_mantis_> Alter-Ego: typed it above, sort of; what's the trick to get kub6.10 to work with SBlive!24 bit external usb; some sounds come via SB, but vol. control on SB unit doesn't work and kmix insists of defaulting to onboard intel sound
[08:40] <[Amigo] > fdoving:  It's need angasule
[08:41] <angasule> fdoving: whenever I visit a page that has flash, konqueror asks me if I want to install it, I don't. But it asks every single time
[08:42] <coreymon77> guys
[08:43] <fdoving> [Amigo] : ah..sorry missuunderstood the situation :)
[08:43] <fdoving> angasule: ok, copy /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/kcmnspluginrc to ~/.kde/share/config/ - edit ~/.kde/share/config/kcmnspluginrc and delete the last line.
[08:43] <fdoving> angasule: the PluginsListFile line..
[08:44] <coreymon77> isnt there a way to modify a keyvoard layout?
[08:45] <angasule> fdoving: I did that, opened a new konqueror, and it still asks me to install flash, tried closing konqueror, opening a new one, etc, several times
[08:45] <fn0rdp0rtland> how do i regiter my nick?
[08:46] <visik7> does anyone got kbtobexclient working on edgy ?
[08:46] <fdoving> !register | fn0rdp0rtland
[08:46] <ubotu> fn0rdp0rtland: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:46] <fn0rdp0rtland> or how do i change my nick?
[08:46] <fn0rdp0rtland> thanx
[08:46] <jeisma> i'm having a "boot disk failure" can anyone help me with it?
[08:46] <fn0rdp0rtland> with linux?
[08:47] <_mantis_> thanks guys :(
[08:47] <fn0rdp0rtland> are u runing windows too jeima?
[08:47] <trughio> hih
[08:47] <intelikey> well i've found another major blunder in this jibberish called code
[08:47] <trughio> ciao
[08:47] <intelikey> iceauth is also hard coded to use /root/
[08:47] <fn0rdp0rtland> jeisma:  are you running windows and linux or jut linux?
[08:48] <intelikey> as some of you may know /root/ is not root's home dir here.  so kdm and iceauth both have to mkdir /root/ and then make their files in there.....
[08:48] <ikhouvanje> does someone now where i can buy games for linux that sure works on it?
[08:49] <mc__> ikhouvanje: www.linuxgamepublishing.com
[08:49] <ikhouvanje> Ok thx mc_
[08:49] <angasule> ikhouvanje: in general, if a game works on linux, it says so, and there are plenty of free ones as well
[08:50] <angasule> ikhouvanje: got a dutch girlfriend? ;)
[08:50] <angasule> fdoving: any ideas?
[08:50] <ikhouvanje> yes why
[08:50] <julle> what do i have to write in the xorg.conf at the end its something like Extensions....
[08:50] <julle> its to enable beryl and aiglx
[08:50] <fn0rdp0rtland> what are "super cow powers"
[08:50] <fn0rdp0rtland> !regiter | fn0rdp0rtland
[08:50] <fn0rdp0rtland> !register | fn0rdp0rtland
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regiter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <ubotu> fn0rdp0rtland: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:50] <fdoving> angasule: killall -9 konqueror, restart konq and try again.
[08:50] <ikhouvanje> i am running linux mint but i see now that it's based on kubuntu?
[08:51] <angasule> fdoving: still no go
[08:51] <mc__> ikhouvanje: you're right
[08:51] <angasule> ikhouvanje: your nickname is kind of a giveaway :D
[08:51] <ikhouvanje> :d:d:d thx mc_
[08:51] <ikhouvanje> a giveaway
[08:51] <ikhouvanje> ?
[08:51] <ikhouvanje> I doesn't understand
[08:51] <fdoving> angasule: ok, edit /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/kcmnspluginrc as root, remove the last line.
[08:52] <intelikey> what's the gui cups configuration app called ?
[08:53] <ikhouvanje> does someone now if bea( de codename of linux mint 2.1 is also based on kubuntu?
[08:53] <intelikey> i doubt that it will work seeing that it's using the wrong dir....
[08:53] <angasule> fdoving: thanks a LOT, I think that did it, any idea if that bug has been submitted yet?? I guess testers always said yes to flash...
[08:53] <fdoving> angasule: the whole wizard will be removed as it's not a good solution to the problem.
[08:54] <angasule> fdoving: ah, ok, thanks for the info :)
[08:54] <ikhouvanje> doesn someone can run warzone 2.0.4 on kubuntu or ubuntu? so yes how
[08:54] <fn0rdp0rtland> whats berly?
[08:54] <coreymon77> is there nothing i can do?
[08:55] <fn0rdp0rtland> and whats "super cow powers" ive gotten messages from apt-get and aptitude that it ether does or dosent have super cow powers?
[08:56] <fn0rdp0rtland> probly some hindu thing
[08:56] <barktpolar> Hi There
[08:56] <anderson> install nvidia fx 500 driver?
[08:56] <anderson> install nvidia fx 5200 driver?
[08:56] <DralaFi> how does kbubuntu do the pmount mounting? I have pmount installed and setup, though media:/sda1 is blank in konqueror, and /media/ has loads of disk/ directories. Everytime I refresh konqueror media:/sda1 page, it adds another dir in /media/ with the device mounted there. What am I doing wrong?
[08:56] <barktpolar> Does Kubuntu 6.10 still require 256 MB of RAM or can it be used with 128 MB of RAM
[08:56] <ikhouvanje> 256 MB I thought barktpolar
[08:56] <DralaFi> I end up with my device mounted many many times in varying dirs in /media
[08:57] <ikhouvanje> but if your computer is not powerfull enough take than xubuntu
[08:57] <Lynoure> ikhouvanje: Have you tried running it already? It should be possible. If not as a binary, by compiling it yourself (my, your nick is weird.. ik hou niet van je :) )
[08:57] <ikhouvanje> lol are you dutch? are you jaloes?
[08:57] <intelikey> ikhouvanje what computer "is not powerfull enough" ?
[08:57] <DralaFi> Sounds like KDE is not calling pmount with the lock param, but how would it? How does kubuntu do it?
[08:57] <Lynoure> ikhouvanje: no, just married to a dutch guy
[08:57] <coreymon77> fn0rdp0rtland: super cow powers is just another way of saying root privs
[08:58] <Lynoure> ikhouvanje: I do not speak it much myself.
[08:58] <ikhouvanje> if your pc is not powerfull enough than you take xubuntu
[08:58] <intelikey> ikhouvanje and what computer "is not powerfull enough" ?
[08:58] <barktpolar> My RAM is onyl 128 Megs
[08:58] <tony__> can't anyone else not access kde-look site?
[08:58] <Lynoure> ikhouvanje: Warzone seems interesting, thanks for mentioning it.
[08:58] <ikhouvanje> well take dan barktpolar
[08:58] <ikhouvanje> how do i install it please lynoure
[08:59] <ubuntu_> how can i see data on my hard drive off a kubuntu live cd?
[08:59] <ikhouvanje> because i don't now
[08:59] <DralaFi> tony__, doesn't seem I can access kde-look.org
[08:59] <Admiral_Chicago> tony__: looks like it's going to time out
[08:59] <Admiral_Chicago> yup
[08:59] <notech> barktpolar: have you ever seen an OS require less ram for new versions? :)
[08:59] <ikhouvanje> yes take xubuntu
[08:59] <intelikey> i run kubuntu on 64m of ram with no swap  so again i ask "what computer is not powerfull enough" ???
[08:59] <tony__> sucks, i got a script on there that's messed up and been waiting hours for the site to get back up
[09:00] <ubuntu_> how can i see data on my hard drive off a kubuntu live cd?
[09:00] <jeisma> how can i see data on my hard drive off a kubuntu live cd?
[09:00] <ikhouvanje> a ok for ubuntu 6.10 you need 256 MB and if your computer doesn't have that dan you can choose to double your memory or else take Xubuntu
[09:00] <ikhouvanje> if you have less than 256 MB
[09:01] <intelikey> ikhouvanje you don't need 256m of ram
[09:01] <poningru> jeisma: you would have to mount it
[09:01] <intelikey> you only need that to run the live CD
[09:01] <ikhouvanje> eum with only 128 mb my laptop crashes
[09:01] <notech> you can usually run on less than required, but the box is slower
[09:01] <Lynoure> ikhouvanje: I'm not sure I would, their official site has only windows stuff. Puzzling. Can you point me to where you found the Linux version, if not in Softpedia?
[09:01] <intelikey> or should i say the live CD + the installer.
[09:01] <ikhouvanje> ok lynoure wait a second
[09:02] <tony__> if i can run xp on my mom's 64mb memory pc, surely ubuntu will work with less
[09:02] <intelikey> ikhouvanje the alternative cd   can install on 128m   or even on 96m
[09:03] <ikhouvanje> go to this site lynoure http://wz2100.net/
[09:03] <ikhouvanje> i downloaded it but i don't now how to install or compile it
[09:03] <fn0rdp0rtland> whats that mean? ik hou niet van je?
[09:03] <jeisma> how do i mount the hard drive?
[09:04] <fn0rdp0rtland> i get 90-100% signal strenth on my wifi card but it keeps quiting on me any advice?
[09:04] <zorglu_> tony__: xubuntu is good for such machine
[09:05] <Lynoure> ikhouvanje: ok... So, did you try the installer already? It seems to be binary, who knows it might just run by setting it executable and running it, but I will not try that on this computer. (I avoid running vague binaries)
[09:06] <coreymon77> i try to use apt whenever possible
[09:06] <fn0rdp0rtland> jeisma:  system settings then advanced mode or something like that in the top left then disks i think
[09:07] <ckd> !res
[09:07] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:07] <Lynoure> ikhouvanje: If not, might be best to contact the people on the site. I'm too lazy now to poke at the source code to see if it is straightforward to compile and install.
[09:07] <jeisma> can someone please help me mount my drive so i can get data off my hard drive?
[09:08] <jeisma> i'm very bad with linux
[09:08] <Lynoure> ikhouvanje: or, actually, join #warzone
[09:08] <zorglu_> !mount | jeisma
[09:08] <ubotu> jeisma: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[09:08] <Lynoure> ikhouvanje: that's there channel on freenode (this irc network)
[09:08] <fn0rdp0rtland> anyone else ever have problems with a wifi card just randomly quiting in ubntu?even when you have a good 90-100%signal?
[09:08] <Lynoure> s/there/their
[09:09] <blind_> where/how can i get libguichan
[09:09] <fn0rdp0rtland> whats the ! in front of !mount?
[09:09] <ikhouvanje_> if your wifi card doesn't work good use vmware player
[09:09] <intelikey> fn0rdp0rtland no wifi here but i have heard that mentioned     check the ubuntu wikis
[09:09] <visik7>  kbtobexclient is buggedi n edgy
[09:09] <fn0rdp0rtland> ill go check it out
[09:09] <sheldon> can someone tell me how to configure grub to default to windows at boot
[09:10] <zorglu_> !dualboot
[09:10] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[09:10] <fn0rdp0rtland> whats the ! stand for at the front of comands?
[09:10] <intelikey> sheldon set it to default in the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:10] <zorglu_> fn0rdp0rtland: it is for a command in the bot
[09:11] <fn0rdp0rtland> bot? sorry im new
[09:11] <zorglu_> fn0rdp0rtland: a programm made to help people on irc
[09:11] <zorglu_> !bot
[09:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:11] <zorglu_> fn0rdp0rtland: there are nobody behind 'ubotu' keyboard. it is a programm
[09:11] <intelikey> bot  short for robot
[09:13] <blind_> where/how can i get libguichan??
[09:13] <fn0rdp0rtland> cool
[09:13] <zorglu_> !info libguichan
[09:13] <ubotu> Package libguichan does not exist in any distro I know
[09:13] <fn0rdp0rtland> so if i wanted info on say hotdogs i would say !hotdogs?
[09:13] <intelikey> !libguichan0
[09:13] <ubotu> libguichan0: Guichan is a small, efficient C++ GUI library. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0-4ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 137 kB, installed size 448 kB
[09:14] <JoshJ> So how do I set my right alt key to actually function as an alt key?
[09:14] <zorglu_> intelikey: oh all in the 0 :)
[09:14] <fn0rdp0rtland> and if ubotu knew anything about tasty tasty hotdogs he would tell me?
[09:14] <JoshJ> it won't let me change mod5 to another alt key :(
[09:14] <blind_> ... so where do i get it frome ???????
[09:14] <fn0rdp0rtland> !vmware
[09:14] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[09:15] <intelikey> !tasty tasty hotdogs | fn0rdp0rtland
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tasty tasty hotdogs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <zorglu_> blind_: quit the "???" please
[09:15] <intelikey> like that :)
[09:15] <DralaFi> how does kbubuntu do the pmount mounting? I have pmount installed and setup, though media:/sda1 is blank in konqueror, and /media/ has loads of disk/ directories. Everytime I refresh konqueror media:/sda1 page, it adds another dir in /media/ with the device mounted there. What am I doing wrong?
[09:16] <zorglu_> DralaFi: and the new media dir does contains the proper disk ?
[09:16] <DralaFi> yes
[09:16] <DralaFi> however you can't access anything using the media:/ kio
[09:16] <intelikey> hehhe another "feature" of the new kubuntu i assume   lol
[09:17] <zorglu_> DralaFi: ok my guess is the 'mount path is used' aka you got another process on /media/sda1 somewhere. would that be possible ?
[09:17] <fn0rdp0rtland> !tasty tasty hotdogs
[09:17] <fn0rdp0rtland> !tasty tasty hotdogs | fnordportland
[09:17] <fn0rdp0rtland> how come it dosent give me info if i type !gnome?
[09:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tasty tasty hotdogs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:17] <DralaFi> ie. media:/sda1/ is blank. Everytime you refresh it adds another mount point to /media and does another pmount
[09:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tasty tasty hotdogs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:17] <JoshJ> !gnome
[09:17] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[09:17] <JoshJ> are you registered, fn0rdp0rtland ?
[09:17] <fn0rdp0rtland> never mind i got it
[09:17] <fn0rdp0rtland> no
[09:17] <zorglu_> fn0rdp0rtland: please dont abuse the bot here. you can /msg ubotu to get the same result
[09:18] <JoshJ> you have to be registered to do that, don't you?
[09:18] <DralaFi> zorglu_, there's no /media/sda1
[09:18] <zorglu_> DralaFi: "ls -ld /media/sda1" <- what is the output of this
[09:18] <fn0rdp0rtland> sorry zorglu im just trying to learn,didint even know about the msg command
[09:19] <zorglu_> fn0rdp0rtland: no problem
[09:19] <DralaFi> /dev/sda1 on /media/disk-15 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=lower)
[09:19] <DralaFi> /dev/sda1 on /media/disk-16 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=lower)
[09:19] <DralaFi> /usr/bin/ls: /media/sda1: No such file or directory
[09:19] <zorglu_> ls -ld gives you this ? unlikly :)
[09:19] <DralaFi> zorglu_, that's from mount
[09:20] <saad> how do i install synaptics
[09:20] <DralaFi> media:/ kioslave does show media:/sda1 though
[09:20] <intelikey> saad sudo apt-get install synaptic
[09:20] <JoshJ> So I installed Kubuntu and Xubuntu, how do I get my Ubuntu loading screen and login screen back?
[09:20] <zorglu_> DralaFi: im think i am out of idea... sorry
[09:20] <DralaFi> zorglu_, same here. Thank you anyways.
[09:21] <saad> i am trying to mount my ntfs partitions. is there a package that would make ntfs mounting a little easier
[09:21] <JoshJ> !ntfs
[09:21] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:21] <JoshJ> !fuse
[09:21] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[09:21] <intelikey> JoshJ where did you put, or what did you do with the "Ubuntu loading screen and login screen" ?
[09:22] <JoshJ> intelikey: i didn't do anything with them, it's just that when I installed kubuntu and xubuntu they made the kubuntu loading screen and xubuntu login screen show up -_-
[09:22] <JoshJ> i'd rather have the standard Ubuntu loading screen and Ubuntu login screen, and i'm not really sure where I change those at
[09:22] <intelikey> ah  dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[09:23] <intelikey> sudo that ^
[09:23] <intelikey> as to the splash screen     maybe reconfigure  usplash   idk...
[09:24] <Digital_Pioneer> Dr_willis: Ah, yes. Hi. :)
[09:24] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:24] <fn0rdp0rtland> ikhouvanje_:  hows vmware player going to help me?
[09:24] <JoshJ> eh, don't think dpkg-reconfigure will do what i want :\
[09:24] <torpor> hi all
[09:25] <JoshJ> did it anyway but i remember doing that on the install and choosing gdm
[09:25] <fn0rdp0rtland> ikhouvanje_: seems like a cool program but i dont see what it has to do with my wifi?
[09:25] <torpor> just upgraded to kubuntu (edgy) from MEPIS, and i was wondering if anyone knows why its so laggy to bring up any screens that use the 'administrator' access, such as the user administration screens?  i get a red box, and then it takes **AGES** to pop up the authentication dialog asking for my password ..
[09:25] <torpor> is this something to do with dhcpd/dns?
[09:25] <kello> who can tell me how do i install a bin file
[09:26] <kello> who can tell me how do i install a bin file
[09:26] <kello> who can tell me how do i install a bin file
[09:26] <Digital_Pioneer> kello: .bin?
[09:26] <torpor> kello: depends on whats in the .bin file .. if its a shell-archive, you just go 'sh somefile.bin' .. but i would double-check first.
[09:26] <Digital_Pioneer> kello: Try setting it to executable.
[09:26] <torpor> .bin files can also be old school MacOS archives ..
[09:26] <DralaFi> what;s with the auto-repeat?
[09:27] <Digital_Pioneer> kello: Right-click->Properties->Permissions->Is Executable.
[09:27] <intelikey> torpor chmod 755 file.bin ;file.bin
[09:27] <kello> Digital_Pioneer: look it`s the instalation of a java develop suite
[09:27] <ikhouvanje_> is ubuntu and kubuntu the last year more populairder than the years therefor?
[09:27] <JoshJ> bleh i have to say i don't much like KDE :(
[09:27] <intelikey> err ;./file.bin
[09:27] <Dr_willis> kello,   depends on WHAT .bin file it is also..
[09:28] <kello> its a java instalationb
[09:28] <Dr_willis> !java
[09:28] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[09:28] <kello> installation
[09:28] <intelikey> JoshJ i don't blame you.  it most certenly isn't 'nome
[09:28] <Digital_Pioneer> kello: I'd try (from commandline) "sh file.bin"
[09:28] <torpor> intelikey: not my problem.
[09:28] <Dr_willis> You dont need to mess with the java .bin files at all.
[09:28] <torpor> just upgraded to kubuntu (edgy) from MEPIS, and i was wondering if anyone knows why its so laggy to bring up any screens that use the 'administrator' access, such as the user administration screens?  i get a red box, and then it takes **AGES** to pop up the authentication dialog asking for my password ..
[09:28] <JoshJ> kde also seems oddly slower :(
[09:28] <Dr_willis> to install suns java
[09:28] <JoshJ> not sure if that's because the back-end is optimized for gnome or what
[09:28] <Dr_willis> torpor,  you are the first person ive seen thats admited to ubgrading to edgy from MEPIS. :)
[09:28] <kello> guys the thing is like this
[09:29] <kello> in the sun web page
[09:29] <Digital_Pioneer> OK, what packages should I reinstall to completely reset everything remotely related to KDE?
[09:29] <JoshJ> kubuntu-desktop
[09:29] <torpor> Dr_willis: i wish i hadn't! :)
[09:29] <kello> they tell me that i had to use a fake root
[09:29] <JoshJ> kubuntu-desktop kdebase kdeadmin
[09:29] <intelikey> torpor maybe because you upgraded accross distros ?
[09:29] <JoshJ> kello: that's sudo
[09:29] <kello> a fake root??
[09:29] <kello> sudo???
[09:29] <JoshJ> sudo command does the following command as root
[09:29] <JoshJ> !sudo
[09:29] <kello> ?
[09:29] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:29] <Dr_willis> Mepis - is one of those 'interesting' disrtos... heh heh...
[09:29] <fn0rdp0rtland> anyone know of a good torent for a cracked copy of windows?
[09:30] <ikhouvanje_> if i run xubuntu on my laptop and than vmwareplayer with ubuntu does i have than sure internet?
[09:30] <torpor> intelikey: actually -- sorry, i wiped the MEPIS partition clean first, then re-installed edgy on that partition .. i did NOT do a cross-grade..
[09:30] <Dr_willis> kello,  why not state what you are trying to do exactly....
[09:30] <fn0rdp0rtland> im not going to stop using linux i just want my damn games
[09:30] <Dr_willis> kello,  not what youve heard/read/are attemptuing to do.. but whats the CORE fundamental thing you are trying to do.
[09:30] <torpor> so the thing is, why the lag time when needing my password to do admin functions?
[09:30] <kello> cuz i dont speak english to good =)
[09:30] <JoshJ> fn0rdp0rtland: try going to a place where that's the purpose, because asking for illegal copies of proprietary software in here is not going to work :(
[09:30] <intelikey> torpor just going by what you said "<torpor> just upgraded to kubuntu (edgy) from MEPIS,"
[09:30] <torpor> intelikey: i dig.
[09:30] <torpor> and how do i get all the kde tools, like appearance manager and such?  seems not to be installed by default..
[09:31] <Dr_willis> kello,  if you are wanting to install Java. You dont need to be messing with the SUN web site or other .bin files at all.
[09:31] <intelikey> install kde
[09:31] <JoshJ> torpor : do apt-get install kubuntu-dekstop kdebase kdeadmin
[09:31] <torpor> but i've got kde, no?
[09:31] <intelikey> no
[09:31] <torpor> ermm.
[09:31] <intelikey> you have kdebase and some of the kde apps
[09:31] <torpor> i'm running kubuntu.  thats ubuntu uwith KDE.
[09:31] <torpor> oh, okay
[09:31] <kello> Dr_willis, the thing is thgat i need to install that bin file
[09:31] <intelikey> install kde   it's a meta package.
[09:31] <kello> Dr_willis: how can i do that?
[09:32] <JoshJ> kello: if you want to install java, do sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[09:32] <kello> Dr_willis, please tell me
[09:32] <ikhouvanje_> what is ubuntu CE?
[09:32] <JoshJ> kello: if you want to install java, do sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-plugin    (sorry, forgot the plugin)
[09:32] <Dr_willis> kello,  we pasted the !java factoid once. :P it details the details.
[09:32] <zorglu_> kello: be patient man
[09:32] <Dr_willis> !java
[09:32] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[09:32] <kello> JoshJ: the problem is that a want to install a suite
[09:32] <Digital_Pioneer> kello: The .bin isn't what you want to install, you want to install its contents.
[09:32] <torpor> no kdeadmin.. ?wftf?
[09:32] <JoshJ> oh, you want the jdk thing?
[09:32] <kello> with netbeans
[09:32] <JoshJ> add sun-java5-jdk to that line
[09:32] <fn0rdp0rtland> is there a way to remove the pasword for admin function but leave the login password?
[09:32] <ikhouvanje_> take linux mint than you doesn't have to install all that stuff
[09:32] <intelikey> CE generally stands for certified engineer
[09:33] <morghanphoenix> quick question. where would I find the guide to upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[09:33] <JoshJ> !edgy
[09:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[09:33] <Dr_willis> !upgrade
[09:33] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[09:33] <JoshJ> there :)
[09:33] <fn0rdp0rtland> !xorg
[09:33] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:33] <morghanphoenix> thanks
[09:33] <kello> JoshJ, came again?
[09:33] <kello> JoshJ: please
[09:34] <JoshJ> kello, load Konsole (or whatever terminal)
[09:34] <intelikey> morghanphoenix be advised that that particular upgrade has caused many problems for many people,  unless you can trubble shoot and repair linux   you might be better off doing a clean install.
[09:34] <kello> JoshJ, and?
[09:34] <morghanphoenix> I assume they've got the 3d acceleration issues that kept me from updating earlier ironed out by now.
[09:34] <JoshJ> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-jdk sun-java5-plugin sun-java5-fonts sun-java5-jre
[09:35] <JoshJ> jdk is the java development kit, jre is the java runtime environment
[09:35] <morghanphoenix> I have a seperat partition for everything I need to keep, so if there's a big screw up I'll just do a fresh install
[09:35] <intelikey> morghanphoenix i wouldn't bet on it.
[09:35] <intelikey> morghanphoenix k that sounds like a plan.
[09:35] <torpor> so do i have to restart kde once i've installed those packages to get the kde themes and stuff?
[09:35] <kello> JoshJ, the thing is 
[09:36] <kello> JoshJ, that i want to instal de update 10 of the java development kit
[09:36] <morghanphoenix> Okay, popping out to do the update
[09:36] <morghanphoenix> wish me luck
[09:36] <fn0rdp0rtland> having problems with konquerer,wont load or half loads pages then says it lost the conecting,yet my conectioin hasent been lost becasue ive beeen on irc the whole time?
[09:36] <fn0rdp0rtland> An error occurred while loading http://www.google.com/search?q=pirate+bay+windows+cracked+torent&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8:
[09:36] <fn0rdp0rtland> Timeout on server
[09:36] <fn0rdp0rtland>  Connection was to www.google.com at port 80
[09:36] <JoshJ> kello: link me to whatever site you're getting that from
[09:36] <kello> JoshJ, and the apt has the update 7
[09:36] <fn0rdp0rtland> An error occurred while loading http://www.google.com/search?q=pirate+bay+windows+cracked+torent&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8:
[09:36] <fn0rdp0rtland> Timeout on server
[09:36] <fn0rdp0rtland>  Connection was to www.google.com at port 80
[09:37] <kello> JoshJ, its the bin file that i have
[09:37] <JoshJ> well, you downloaded it from somewhere, they likely have instructions
[09:37] <ikhouvanje_> how do i run wolfenstein3d on kubuntu
[09:37] <JoshJ> !wine | ikhouvanje_
[09:37] <ubotu> ikhouvanje_: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:37] <ikhouvanje_> ok
[09:37] <kello> JoshJ, from the sun web page
[09:37] <JoshJ> bleh a direct link would be nice but w/e
[09:37] <kello> JoshJ, and came with no instruction+
[09:38] <JoshJ> http://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp  <-- is that what you're talking about?
[09:38] <kello> Joshj slow please
[09:38] <ikhouvanje_> oh yes but the problem is that i work with vmware player and than the program says you can't open it with wine because you doens'nt have an operating system:(
[09:38] <kello> JoshJ what is w/e??
[09:38] <Dr_willis> wolfenstein3d was a DOS game wasent it? dosbox can play it
[09:38] <itch_> hello guys. I have a problem. Aftem compileing and and installing a custom kernel (2.6.19), the system hangs at boot time. Any sugestion ?
[09:38] <JoshJ> w/e is "whatever"
[09:38] <kello> JoshJ and bleh ??
[09:39] <JoshJ> bleh is just a general expression of frustration, sorry
[09:39] <kello> JoshJ i had the update 10
[09:39] <kello> woth netbeans 5.5
[09:39] <JoshJ> http://www.netbeans.info/downloads/index.php  <-- is this what you mean?
[09:39] <kello> JoshJ with netbeans 5.5
[09:40] <kello> JoshJ no no no
[09:40] <kello> JoshJ the bin file had all
[09:40] <JoshJ> i have no idea.. just try running the bin file from konsole i guess :(
[09:40] <torpor> sh somefile.bin
[09:40] <torpor> godamn
[09:40] <JoshJ> absolutely should come with a readme or have installation instructions on the site :(
[09:41] <ikhouvanje_> it doesn't work with dosemulator:(
[09:41] <kello> JoshJ look that is the file name "jdk-1_5_0_10-nb-5_5-linux.bin"
[09:41] <hermes> !kype
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kype - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <hermes> !skype
[09:41] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[09:41] <kello> JoshJ i need to install that file
[09:42] <kello> JoshJ look that is the file name "jdk-1_5_0_10-nb-5_5-linux.bin"
[09:42] <JoshJ> ah, ok kello , there are instructions on the site
[09:42] <JoshJ> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/install_jdk1_5_10-nb55_all.html scroll down to where it says linux, they actually have instructions there
[09:42] <kello> JoshJ i love u
[09:42] <kello> JoshJ such a very good guy
[09:43] <fn0rdp0rtland> !netbeans
[09:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netbeans - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:43] <JoshJ> i've heard of netbeans, i'm kinda surprised it's not in the repos
[09:44] <JoshJ> apt-cache search netbeans got nothing :(
[09:44] <itch_> Hello guys. I have a problem. After compileing and and installing a custom kernel (2.6.19), the system hangs at boot time. Any sugestion, please ?
[09:44] <kello> JoshJ it is why i am asking
[09:46] <ikhouvanje_> is ubuntu the operating system of the future?
[09:46] <ikhouvanje_> will windows crash in the future?
[09:46] <JoshJ> er... it's possibly the desktop distro of the future
[09:46] <Dr_willis> ikhouvanje_,  ask us in 5 years
[09:46] <JoshJ> windows will go away over time
[09:46] <JoshJ> it'll just be a slow and painful process >_<
[09:46] <afm\colossus> GNU/HURD is the future ;)
[09:46] <Dr_willis> The amazing thing about Predictions of the future... is how many of them are totally wrong.
[09:47] <JoshJ> HURD won't "cut it", afm\colossus
[09:47] <itch_> Ah common ppl, a little help here, please !
[09:47] <ikhouvanje_> but ubuntu is in the future maybe not free anymore than?:(:(
[09:47] <JoshJ> ikhouvanje_ ubuntu has to be free in the future
[09:47] <JoshJ> look up the GPL
[09:47] <JoshJ> anything licensed under the GPL is free for life
[09:47] <JoshJ> it'd be impossible to make it non-free
[09:47] <ikhouvanje_> and the viruses than?
[09:47] <afm\colossus> not if there are only DRMd platforms to run the binaries on
[09:48] <JoshJ> ikhouvanje_: linux is less susceptible to viruses because you don't run as root all the time
[09:48] <JoshJ> windows wouldn't get hit by as many viruses if so many people didn't run as administrator- the problem is just that there are a lot of poorly written windows apps that require you to do so :\
[09:49] <JoshJ> afm\colossus: presumably if/when windows goes to a more reasonable marketshare the weight of the FOSS community would keep "trusted computing" out
[09:49] <ikhouvanje_> i must be off
[09:50] <ikhouvanje_> see you
[09:52] <itch_> Hello guys. I have a problem. After compileing and and installing a custom kernel (2.6.19), the system hangs at boot time. Any sugestion, please ?
[09:53] <afm\colossus> itch_: what about stating the exact error-message?
[09:54] <raavi_> itch: which .config file do you use?
[09:54] <itch_> afm\colossus there is no error message. it just says "uncompressing linux .. " and hangs
[09:54] <voicu> ok, stupid question but i'm tired and lazy. how do i run emacs? or what exactly do i do with it? i heard it's used as an ide for lisp
[09:54] <voicu> also slime seems to be very popular in the lisp context
[09:54] <itch_> raavi_ the one from the 2.6.17  + the settings done in menuconfig
[09:55] <JoshJ> emacs is a text editor
[09:55] <JoshJ> just run emacs in a terminal (may have to do apt-get install emacs or gnuemacs first)
[09:55] <raavi_> itch_: I had the same problem too, it freezes after populating usb stuff...
[09:55] <Dheeraj_k_> 3
[09:56] <itch_> raavi_ : mine doesen`t get to the USB. just the 1st message : "uncompressing linux"
[09:56] <itch_> raavi_ : and what did you do ?
[09:57] <sirjinx> Hi, I have two questions. What is the difference between kubuntu cd version vs the dvd version? And does either of them come with the madwifi driver?
[09:57] <voicu> whoa, i'm really tired... forgot to install emacs
[09:57] <voicu> thanks JoshJ
[09:57] <JoshJ> haha
[09:57] <fn0rdp0rtland> !madwifi
[09:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:57] <raavi_> itch_: nothing much at that point, I switch back to original and since I have little time to post the error message
[09:57] <raavi_> Did you have a look into the kernel.log
[09:57] <fn0rdp0rtland> i have the dvd,but i dont know what the diff is
[09:58] <itch_> raavi_ : lol :) I have looked in unbuntuforums.org.
[09:58] <sirjinx> ok thanks
[09:58] <sirjinx> I'd hate downloading it to just find out I need to download the drivers and installing them/
[09:58] <raavi_> Can you send your .config file, so that I can any diff is there or not...
[09:58] <JoshJ> grr >:[
[09:58] <JoshJ> how do i set my right alt key to function as a freaking right alt key?
[09:59] <fn0rdp0rtland> what mad wifi?
[09:59] <fn0rdp0rtland> sirjinx: do you have the cd?
[10:00] <fn0rdp0rtland> i know the dvd lets you install in either text/oem/or live/boot from first hard disk etc
[10:00] <fn0rdp0rtland> im gussing it has extra repos
[10:00] <itch_> raavi_ : what should I look for in kernel.log?
[10:00] <sirjinx> I was going to download it now.
[10:00] <sirjinx> I remembered trying kubuntu 6.06, but I didn't know it didn't have upstart. And Now I lost the cd for it.
[10:00] <fn0rdp0rtland> sirjinx: whats madwifi?
[10:01] <sirjinx> madwifi would be the drivers for atheros network cards.
[10:01] <JoshJ> !atheros
[10:01] <raavi_> Generally, there will be a logging about the boot process, if any errors, there will be a log for that too...from that you can debug easily.
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atheros - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <JoshJ> ;[
[10:01] <fn0rdp0rtland> havroblems with my wifi right now shity,then again im using a coffee can for a antenna
[10:01] <fn0rdp0rtland> having problems*
[10:02] <itch_> raavi_ : let me check
[10:02] <JoshJ> wifi is a constant probelm on linux sadly ;(
[10:02] <ubuntu> o/
[10:02] <Dr_willis> fn0rdp0rtland,  switch to decaffe its not as jittery
[10:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:02] <ubuntu> ;)
[10:02] <JoshJ> haha
[10:02] <Dr_willis> WiFi is a Constant problem with everything...
[10:02] <fn0rdp0rtland> !decaffe
[10:02] <ApoC> hui
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about decaffe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <fn0rdp0rtland> whats decaffe?
[10:02] <JoshJ> decaf, not decaffe
[10:02] <nagyv> !3d
[10:02] <JoshJ> decaf = decaffinated coffee
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <Dr_willis> heh
[10:02] <fn0rdp0rtland> lol
[10:03] <Dr_willis> Tripple Espresso!
[10:03] <JoshJ> wireless just works in windows OEM laptops because they install the driver when you buy the computer :(
[10:03] <JoshJ> this is why i wish that someone would take the plunge and put a serious line of linux laptops in the stores- the hardware would obv work right
[10:03] <itch_> raavi_ : how can I know where the boot log begins? I mean, there are logs there from the 1st time i`ve bootet the system.
[10:03] <nagyv> !xgl
[10:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:04] <fn0rdp0rtland> no i lost my laptop screen,now i have to run it thru a monitor,but when i removed my laptop screen i ost my wifi antennea now i use a cantenna
[10:04] <JoshJ> haha :(
[10:04] <fn0rdp0rtland> crazy reception
[10:04] <fn0rdp0rtland> i pick up a 80% signal like 6 blocks away
[10:05] <fn0rdp0rtland> oh yea my wifi antenna was in my laptop screen left out that little detail
[10:05] <ApoC> hmmm
[10:05] <ApoC> where i can search for my network shares?
[10:06] <ApoC> first time, that im ubuntu user..;)
[10:06] <ApoC> KDE as dektop system
[10:06] <nagyv> how can I check wheter 3d acceleration is working on my card? (before upgradeing it worked, but I am suspicious)
[10:07] <raavi_> what is your running kernel now.
[10:07] <itch_> raavi_ 2.6.17 that came with the install
[10:07] <raavi_> okay.
[10:08] <fn0rdp0rtland> www.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.html for info on cantennas id sugest one for anyone using wireless
[10:08] <Fragrag> !midi
[10:08] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[10:08] <raavi_> you will find the logs only for the running kernel...
[10:08] <ApoC> hmm
[10:08] <fn0rdp0rtland> !dvd
[10:08] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:08] <itch_> raavi_ : then how can i look for error messages ?
[10:08] <raavi_> so, when you reboot to new kernel...and when it hangs....you can reboot the system with live and see what error logs do you have
[10:09] <itch_> Ah ..
[10:09] <itch_> Got it
[10:09] <itch_> raavi_ : but it hangs so soon, that I thing there`s no time for writeing stuff to the log.
[10:09] <biller> itch_: i'm curious what kind of hard drive are you using? SATA? IDE?
[10:10] <itch_> biller : IDE
[10:10] <biller> itch_: ah, nm then :)
[10:10] <itch_> :P
[10:10] <raavi_> itch: you try and see...I hope log will start before it hangs..
[10:11] <itch_> raavi_ sure, I`ll do that. But right now I have to eat & sleep. Tomorrow I have classes and then work. Have to get up early. 10x for the help! :)
[10:13] <fn0rdp0rtland> itch_: i havent tried that eating or sleeping thing for a while,but thats probly just the coke
[10:13] <raavi_> good luck then
[10:19] <fn0rdp0rtland> whats the chanell for easy ubuntu?
[10:20] <Dr_willis> !easyubuntu
[10:20] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[10:20] <Dr_willis>  #easyubuntu
[10:20] <Dr_willis> heh
[10:21] <abaldwin> hi
[10:21] <cloakable> Is KDE Look down for anyone?
[10:22] <Dr_willis> cloakable,  was down earlier for me
[10:23] <jeisma> can someone help my mount my hard drive from a live cd?
[10:23] <Dr_willis> mkdir /media/hda1
[10:23] <Dr_willis> mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[10:23] <Dr_willis> there ya go. :)
[10:24] <KDEfanboy> both KDE look and KDE apps look down
[10:24] <jeisma> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /media/hda1
[10:24] <jeisma> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[10:24] <jeisma> mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist
[10:24] <jeisma> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[10:24] <jeisma> Dr_willis didn't work
[10:24] <lascar> jeisma: were you root when you tried?
[10:24] <Dr_willis> actually it 'produced an error' so it did work. :)
[10:24] <jeisma> uhh i dunno
[10:24] <Dr_willis> it just failed to do what you thought it would do.
[10:25] <jeisma> i wrote sudo in fron of it
[10:25] <Dr_willis> your hard drive is hda1? or what.
[10:25] <rinanir> hi. i need pam_cracklib.so library for password management issues. but it does not exist in my kubuntu. does not it normally have to be under /lib/security directory
[10:25] <cloakable> Pinging www.kde-look.org gives me 80.190.240.90, but putting that into konqueror instead gives nothing too.
[10:25] <lascar> ok, so you were
[10:25] <jeisma> Dr_willis ok so how do i get it to do what i want to do?
[10:25] <jeisma> i don't know what my hard drive is, i need help
[10:25] <cloakable> I'm going to nmap
[10:25] <Dr_willis> #1 - figure out excactly what you need to do. :P
[10:25] <lascar> cloakable: the site is just down
[10:25] <Dr_willis> list the hard drives with
[10:25] <Dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l
[10:26] <Dr_willis> then figure out what one you are wanting to mount..   what are you trying to accomplish by this mounting anyway?
[10:26] <jeisma> Dr_willis
[10:26] <mohammed> how to instll HSF conexnt 56 v92 modem ?
[10:26] <jeisma> Usage: fdisk [-l]  [-b SSZ]  [-u]  device
[10:26] <jeisma> E.g.: fdisk /dev/hda  (for the first IDE disk)
[10:26] <jeisma>   or: fdisk /dev/sdc  (for the third SCSI disk)
[10:26] <jeisma>   or: fdisk /dev/eda  (for the first PS/2 ESDI drive)
[10:26] <jeisma>   or: fdisk /dev/rd/c0d0  or: fdisk /dev/ida/c0d0  (for RAID devices)
[10:26] <jeisma> well i was told if i want to get data from my hard drive
[10:26] <jeisma> i would need to mount it
[10:26] <jeisma> cause right now i have a boot disk failure
[10:26] <jeisma> and so im on my kubuntu live cd trying to get my data off of it
[10:26] <Dr_willis> sounds you may have a Hard drive failure...
[10:26] <rinanir> hi. i need pam_cracklib.so library for password management issues. but it does not exist in my kubuntu. does not it normally have to be under /lib/security directory . the other pam related library files are there
[10:26] <jeisma> what does that mean?
[10:26] <Dr_willis> fdisk -l /dev/hda
[10:27] <Dr_willis> see if that shows any info.
[10:27] <rinanir> does anybody know sthing about pam
[10:27] <jeisma> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ Usage: fdisk [-l]  [-b SSZ]  [-u]  device
[10:27] <jeisma> bash: Usage:: command not found
[10:27] <jeisma> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ E.g.: fdisk /dev/hda  (for the first IDE disk)
[10:27] <jeisma> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[10:27] <jeisma> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$   or: fdisk /dev/sdc  (for the third SCSI disk)
[10:27] <jeisma> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[10:27] <jeisma> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$   or: fdisk /dev/eda  (for the first PS/2 ESDI drive)
[10:27] <jeisma> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[10:27] <jeisma> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$   or: fdisk /dev/rd/c0d0  or: fdisk /dev/ida/c0d0  (for RAID devices)
[10:27] <jeisma> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[10:27] <jeisma> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[10:27] <jeisma> don't know what that means
[10:27] <cloakable> lascar: Ahh :(
[10:29] <raavi_> jeisma: try fdisk -l /dev/hda
[10:29] <lascar> cloakable: i know; it happens.  Just be glad it's not your fault ;)
[10:29] <Dr_willis> note thats an L in lower case as in list
[10:29] <jeisma> Dr_willis ok i did it again but it brought up nothing
[10:30] <jeisma> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l /dev/hda
[10:30] <jeisma> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[10:30] <rinanir> i am pretty sure some of you guys know about PAM
[10:30] <Dr_willis> try it with a 'sudo' ? its possible that none of you hard drives are being seen... which s a sign of bios issue. or hardware failure
[10:30] <raavi_> oops, seems nothing there...
[10:30] <raavi_> jeisma: can you able to see your mounts on live CD
[10:30] <jeisma> dr_willis how would i fix that?
[10:31] <jeisma> i don't know if i'm able to see my mounts on live cd
[10:31] <Dr_willis> if the hard drive is dead... its dead...
[10:31] <jeisma> does that mean i can't get anything off of it?
[10:31] <Dr_willis> try the 'mount' command.
[10:31] <rinanir> hey am i invisible
[10:31] <raavi_> jeisma: try once, booting with live CD
[10:31] <abaldwin> hey, Im experiencing some confusion with the sound system
[10:31] <vlad_ri> hi2all :)
[10:31] <jeisma> i did boot with the live cd, that's what i'm on right now
[10:31] <Dr_willis> rinanir,  i know squat about pam... happy now?
[10:31] <raavi_> what confusion is that
[10:32] <raavi_> jeisma: can you mount your volumes now.
[10:32] <jeisma> how would i do that?
[10:32] <abaldwin> I have sound, all groOvy and happy, but when I log out and log in my daughter, who Ive set up as a user, there is no sound, although the sound system is configured precisely the same
[10:32] <lascar> weird question: I password-protected my thumb drive in XP, and it won't even appear in linux when i plug it in.  Any workaround?
[10:32] <raavi_> you become root by: sudo su
[10:33] <rinanir> Dr_willis: not happy
[10:33] <lascar> adaldwin: mad points for getting your daughter to use linux
[10:33] <abaldwin> rinanir, not invisible...but I know nothing of PAM
[10:33] <raavi_> abaldwin, may be you did not add sound for that user.
[10:33] <misael> i need help installing programs in kubuntu
[10:33] <abaldwin> oh yeah, this is a LINUX household, my daughter has been using Linux since she was 2 (shes 7 now)
[10:33] <rinanir> abaldwin: thanks for response
[10:33] <misael> how do i access the root user in kubuntu?
[10:33] <lascar> abaldwin: awesomeness
[10:34] <abaldwin> is that something I need to do from usermgmt? (add sound for the princesa)?
[10:34] <syrcam> there is no real root user
[10:34] <raavi_> misael: under live CD or on after installation
[10:34] <misael> after installation
[10:34] <johey> misael: You use sudo
[10:34] <rinanir> misael: i know that you can only use sudo su -
[10:34] <syrcam> do "sudo" if u want to do root actions
[10:34] <lascar> What can i use in Kubuntu in place of Microsoft Publisher?
[10:34] <jeisma> Dr_willis so can i not recover info from a dead hard drive?
[10:34] <raavi_> abaldwin: yeah...can you please check that...
[10:34] <misael> how do i do that
[10:34] <misael> what is the sudo command
[10:35] <raavi_> misael: try man sudo
[10:35] <johey> misael: You type sudo before the command you like to run with root previlegies.
[10:35] <syrcam> gives an command root rights
[10:35] <abaldwin> yeah, and Im a little confused about the whole sudo thing ( recently switched to Kubu from Fedora)...I thought only I had sudo, but, when logged in formy daughter, my passowrd does not get sudo access, but hers does
[10:35] <abaldwin> hold on checking her user settings for sound
[10:35] <lascar> !publisher
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about publisher - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <lascar> !Microsoft
[10:35] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:35] <lascar> !Microsoft Publisher
[10:36] <misael> whats the whole code to install some thing in
[10:36] <vlad_ri> is there in KDE any posibility to change the keyboard layout by a key combination?
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Microsoft Publisher - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <raavi_> abaldwin: there is no such root password in kubuntu
[10:36] <robotgeek> what does this publisher do?
[10:36] <lascar> it's an app for desktop publishing
[10:36] <johey> Isn't Publisher some kinda DTP program?
[10:36] <lascar> banners, flyers, etc
[10:37] <raavi_> abaldwin: just with normal user password, you can be root by using sudo
[10:37] <lascar> johey: dtp?
[10:37] <abaldwin> ok, I am not seeing where to configure access to sound in KUser
[10:37] <johey> lascar: DTP is, as you said, DeskTop Publishing.
[10:37] <lascar> ah
[10:37] <misael> whats the whole command i need to put in the terminal to install something
[10:37] <johey> lascar: You might try Scribus.
[10:37] <misael> please help
[10:38] <abaldwin> I confess, I dont understand thw usefulness of sudo, then.  I thought only I, the owner and administrator of the machine, would have access to sudo, and would be able to access sudo through terminal regardless of who is logged in (like true root)
[10:38] <lascar> johey: can it handle .pub extensions?
[10:38] <johey> lascar: I have no idea.
[10:38] <raavi_> abaldwin: it is highly secure with sudo...you dont go as administrator
[10:38] <lascar> misael: sudo apt-get install <app name goes here>
[10:38] <jeisma> how can you tell if your hard drive is dead?
[10:38] <misael> so i pud
[10:39] <raavi_> so, possible attacks on your PC is very very less.
[10:39] <voicu> abaldwin, only users that are members of the admin group have access to sudo. even so, they need to know the administrators password (the one you typed at install time)
[10:39] <misael> sudo apt-get install /home/misael/amsn.package ????
[10:39] <lascar> jeisma: listen to it.  literally
[10:39] <misael> thats it?
[10:39] <lascar> misael: if the package is a deb, yes
[10:39] <misael> whats a deb?
[10:39] <johey> lascar: I believe, however, Scribus is the most competent free DTP program.
[10:40] <lascar> johey: ok, i'll give it a shot
[10:40] <johey> lascar: Good luck!
[10:40] <lascar> ty
[10:40] <lascar> and while i'm at it, johey...
[10:40] <lascar> what do you know of USB audio?
[10:41] <abaldwin> ok, perhaps i found it...I added audio to her groups,..hmmm, but she is not in the sudo group, so why does her password give sudo access?
[10:41] <raavi_> abaldwin: double click on user,
[10:41] <johey> lascar: Not very much.
[10:41] <abaldwin> huh, but when I was logged in under my daughters name, I could not get sudo by using my (admin) password, but only by using her password
[10:42] <lascar> damn
[10:42] <lascar> everyone,
[10:42] <lascar> ALSA is screwing me over
[10:42] <voicu> abaldwin, it shouldn't. that can only mean her user was created first (at install) and is the main admin :P
[10:42] <misael> it tells me
[10:42] <misael> that
[10:43] <misael> couldnt find package
[10:43] <wildfire_> Is there, a problem with Kubuntu, and Banshee or something anyone... Getting hangup on sound initilization of banshee.
[10:43] <abaldwin> no, my user was created first, the admin, and hers was created after...doesnt make sense to me, and she isNOT in the admin or sudo group, either
[10:43] <johey> misael: What package are you trying to install?
[10:43] <misael> firefox
[10:43] <misael> 2.0
[10:43] <wildfire_> banshee 0.11.2
[10:43] <misael> its
[10:43] <misael> in my desktop
[10:43] <wildfire_> lol
[10:44] <fn0rdp0rtland> !easyubuntu
[10:44] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[10:44] <johey> misael: You should use the package delivered by the system. sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:44] <misael> ok
[10:44] <abaldwin> oddly, I am in the admin group, but not the sudo group, now that Im taking a look at that
[10:44] <abaldwin> nor am I in the sound or audio group, but I have sound
[10:45] <JoshJ> ok, katapult is cool
[10:45] <JoshJ> discovered THAT by sheer accident
[10:45] <Phazzer> Anyone willing to help a nub?
[10:45] <wildfire_> anyone =( please enlighten me.. with your all knowingness..
[10:45] <lascar> i've been trying to get my headset to work in Kubuntu
[10:45] <lascar> it uses a usb adapter
[10:45] <lascar> can someone help me?
[10:46] <lascar> JoshJ: what do you know about katapult
[10:46] <wildfire_> hmm, i what headset ?
[10:46] <lascar> it seems so useless to me
[10:46] <JoshJ> hit alt-space and it lets you type in the name of a program to run it
[10:46] <johey> lascar: lsusb
[10:46] <lascar> wildfire_: cyber acoustics
[10:46] <lascar> johey: it shows up alright
[10:47] <johey> lascar: What are the numbers?
[10:47] <lascar> hey, so does my thumb drive!
[10:47] <cyber_brain_mfkg> someone siad cyber???
[10:47] <johey> lascar: The xxxx:xxxx
[10:47] <cyber_brain_mfkg> *said
[10:47] <lascar> johey: 0d8c:000c
[10:47] <lascar> yeah, cyber acoustics
[10:48] <lascar> it has the original mono plugs, but plugs in system through a usb adapter
[10:48] <raavi__> abaldwin: can you get the sound now or...
[10:48] <abaldwin> well, Ill have to log out and log her in, be right back
[10:48] <Dheeraj_k__> !apache
[10:48] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[10:48] <misael> what is the command to install amsn if its located at home/misael/
[10:49] <Zarephath> Anyone know where to download planeshifter? I just read about it in Tux Mag...however my googles don't seem to be working out..
[10:49] <wildfire_> Nobody, is having trouble with Banshee on latest Xubuntu? caush i have no clue why it doesnt want to startup without hanging in sound initlization.. I tries 0.11.1 and 0.11.2.. same issue. Is there something i should know.. or try.
[10:49] <johey> lascar: I don't know, but those numbers are great to use when googling about the problem.
[10:49] <misael> what is the command to install amsn if its located at home/misael/
[10:49] <misael> what is the command to install amsn if its located at home/misael/
[10:49] <raavi__> misael: amsn is deb package or source files or bin file
[10:49] <misael> what is the command to install amsn if its located at home/misael/
[10:49] <misael> what is the command to install amsn if its located at home/misael/
[10:49] <coreymon77> misael: get it from apt- sudo apt-get install amsn
[10:49] <misael> i dont know
[10:49] <misael> its just
[10:49] <misael> a
[10:49] <misael> amsn.package
[10:49] <jeisma> lascar: listen to what literally?
[10:49] <coreymon77> misael: !patience
[10:49] <lascar> why use katapult when there's a run command already in existence?
[10:49] <misael> sorry
[10:49] <lascar> jeisma: the hard drive itself
[10:49] <BluesKaj> Howdy , I keep trying to run install.sh as root , but it's not working...any suggestions ?
[10:49] <lascar> remove the case and listen to it
[10:50] <jeisma> should i hear it spinning?
[10:50] <lascar> jeisma: indeed.
[10:50] <raavi__> misael:  check that out with ls -l command
[10:50] <coreymon77> misael: type this into konsole, sudo apt-get install amsn
[10:50] <Zarephath> BluesKaj, : are you adding a ./ in front of it? If it isn't in the path it won't run
[10:50] <jeisma> lascar: at what point will it be spinning? can i press something or should it be spinning right now?
[10:50] <lascar> jeisma: also, ground yourself and touch it.  Hopefully, there should feel whirring.
[10:51] <lascar> it should be spinning now
[10:51] <lascar> but just to be sure, jeisma, reboot and check
[10:51] <wildfire_> O well.. If nobody knows.. What other media player that doesnt stray to far from gnome should I try.. that will use the dirty codecs.
[10:51] <jeisma> ok
[10:51] <lascar> johey: ok, thanx
[10:52] <misael> it gives me an error
[10:52] <coreymon77> wildfire_: if you want gnome, why are you using kubuntu?
[10:52] <jeisma> lascar: there's no way to check without having to listen to it?
[10:52] <mc__> wildfire_: have ya tried mplayer?
[10:52] <wildfire_> im using xubuntu
[10:52] <coreymon77> misael: what error?
[10:52] <wildfire_> ohh lol
[10:52] <LinXway> I have a question on setting up printers I have a HP all in one and when I goto the printer add and click on the hp list it only shows 4 printers all of which are laser printers...when I was useing gnome desktop It listed every hp printer to select from and I am kinda at a loss as to why kde doesnt show all the hp printers like gnome does...so if some one can help out here because I am at a loss on this...
[10:52] <jeisma> lascar: right now i heard a soft humming
[10:52] <wildfire_> damn wrong channel.
[10:52] <raavi__> wildfire: it does not depend on players, but only codecs
[10:52] <wildfire_> Looks around..
[10:53] <jeisma> lascar: but couldn't that be the live cd spinning?
[10:53] <lascar> jeisma: not that i know of under kubuntu
[10:53] <raavi__> wildfire: I prefer players comes with KDE,
[10:53] <coreymon77> misael: whats the error?
[10:53] <misael> unable to lock the administration directory
[10:53] <lascar> jeisma: feel the whole drive
[10:53] <misael> is another process using it?
[10:53] <misael> that's what it sais
[10:53] <misael> says
[10:54] <coreymon77> misael:  do you have adept open?
[10:54] <raavi__> misael: are you opening the adept window or
[10:54] <wildfire_> let me terrorize the Xubutu channel for abit.. =P
[10:54] <jeisma> #ubuntu
[10:54] <lascar> LinXway: what?  what's your model?
[10:54] <misael> the only thing i got open right know its the chat and terminal
[10:54] <coreymon77> did you remember to use sudo?
[10:54] <raavi__> misael: are you root now,
[10:55] <LinXway> hp t65 and 7310 series
[10:55] <misael> i guess
[10:55] <misael> is the only account
[10:55] <misael> in the computer
[10:55] <lascar> LinXway: and you have cups installed right?
[10:55] <raavi__> misael: open konsole, type sudo apt-get install amsn
[10:55] <LinXway> yes
[10:55] <coreymon77> the sudo is very important
[10:55] <misael> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:55] <misael> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:56] <misael> same thing
[10:56] <raavi__> misael: close all konsole window
[10:56] <coreymon77> well then you have adept, adept-updater or another apt process running
[10:56] <misael> done
[10:56] <misael> know what
[10:56] <coreymon77> open konsole
[10:56] <misael> ok
[10:56] <misael> alredy did
[10:56] <raavi__> misael: close all update manager on you system tray.
[10:56] <coreymon77> and type exactly this
[10:57] <misael> hold on
[10:57] <coreymon77> raavi__:update manager wont cause problems unless its actually open and running
[10:57] <fn0rdp0rtland> why does pasteing too much stuff mess up irc?
[10:57] <coreymon77> misael: type sudo apt-get install amsn
[10:57] <lascar> LinXway: go to peripherals, then printers, select the "add printer" module
[10:57] <misael> ok
[10:57] <raavi__> coreymon77: yeah for sure, but his error message says something like that
[10:57] <lascar> hit hp and scroll WAY DOWN
[10:58] <lascar> you'll find the officejet t65, LinXway
[10:58] <LinXway> I have done that
[10:58] <misael> same error
[10:58] <raavi__> misael: are you updating your system right now or...
[10:58] <lascar> LinXway: you selected the "t65 hpijs?"
[10:59] <misael> no am not
[10:59] <coreymon77> well then
[10:59] <visik7> kdebluetooth on edgy is broken !!!
[10:59] <misael> hold on i'll be back
[10:59] <coreymon77> my last resort suggestion would be to restart x
[10:59] <coreymon77> with ctl+alt+bkspc
[11:00] <coreymon77> that should help it
[11:00] <coreymon77> i dont know any other solution
[11:01] <coreymon77> fn0rdp0rtland: its called flood protection
[11:01] <raavi__> coreymon77: I cant belive that :)
[11:02] <coreymon77> what?
[11:02] <LinXway> mabye I am missing something here but where is  peripherals located at in the kde destop
[11:02] <raavi__> the error message, he is getting while installing
[11:02] <coreymon77> i just told him to ctrl+alt+backspace it
[11:02] <Chris7mas> open kcontrol and go to Peripherals :)
[11:03] <coreymon77> raavi__: if that doesnt help, i give up
[11:03] <coreymon77> raavi__: btw, whats with the __ after your name?
[11:04] <raavi__> coreymon77: nothing special.... :)
[11:04] <fn0rdp0rtland> the __ means someone  else has his same name,irc puts the __ there to differnetate inbetween the diffrent people witht hte same name
[11:05] <LinXway> ok that brings up the same printer wiizard that I get under the system setting window
[11:05] <fn0rdp0rtland> like if i signed on to irq right now under coreymon77 i would be coreymon77_
[11:05] <ubuntu__> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[11:05] <ubuntu__> how do i fix that?
[11:05] <coreymon77> fn0rdp0rtland: i know that, but i checked, there was nobody who had the name raavi
[11:05] <lascar> linxway: so continue
[11:06] <fangorious> how do I get konsole to start a login shell?
[11:06] <fdoving> fangorious: from the commandline? 'konsole --ls'
[11:06] <raavi> coreymon77: I had raavi_ before, after that my connection went down for a while so IRC put me to __
[11:06] <fn0rdp0rtland> im having the same problem as ubuntu___ with teh status area locked
[11:06] <LinXway> I jst get the same 4 printers listed
[11:07] <jeisma> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[11:07] <jeisma> how do i fix that?
[11:07] <lascar> so pick one and continue to driver selection
[11:07] <fdoving> !adept crash fix | jeisma
[11:07] <ubotu> jeisma: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[11:07] <raavi> coreymon77: Gives, no possibility for a bug.
[11:07] <fangorious> fdoving: thanks
[11:08] <fangorious> how do i get knetworkmanager to start on login?
[11:08] <ebiven> Is there an easy way to get a Debian standard package to install in Kubuntu?  Ubuntu has been slow to update the KPilot package.
[11:08] <lascar> ebiven: yep
[11:08] <fdoving> fangorious: leave it running when you logout.
[11:08] <lascar> ebiven: use the dpgk command: sudo dpkg --install <deb package>
[11:08] <fn0rdp0rtland> ubotu: thanx i needed that too you lovly robot
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanx i needed that too you lovly robot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <lascar> lol
[11:09] <ebiven> lascar: Did that, it gives me dependency errors on the same packages except with -ubuntu on the end.
[11:09] <LjL> ebiven, lascar: in theory, that can work. but be aware that it may not work (you don't necessarily have the right versions of libraries/stuff), and it *might break things* as well. in general, installing Debian packages is not recommended and not supported
[11:09] <coreymon77> fn0rdp0rtland: btw, no you wouldnt, i own coreymon77_ aswell
[11:09] <fdoving> ebiven: you can get the kpilot fix from http://ubuntu.lnix.net/edgy/updates/kdepim-proposed/
[11:09] <lascar> Ljl: indeed
[11:09] <ebiven> fdoving: You are THE MAN.
[11:10] <ebiven> fdoving: Is there some way to make that easier to find or am I just such a noob that I didn't know to look there while everyone else did?
[11:10] <fdoving> ebiven: i'd like feedback, especially if they work.
[11:10] <fn0rdp0rtland> coreymon77:  i was just using your name as an example that irc would continue to add _ to the end of a name untill it found one
[11:11] <lascar> is anyone else getting timeouts with archive.ubuntu.com?
[11:11] <fdoving> ebiven: no, the packages are ment for edgy-updates, it just takes so much time to get them there.. it's a somewhat long process.
[11:11] <ebiven> fdoving: Where do you want the feedback sent?  It's the least I can do.
[11:11] <larson9999> lascar: funny you should mention that.  i am right now
[11:11] <fdoving> ebiven: comments to https://launchpad.net/bugs/66313 would be great.
[11:12] <lascar> larson9999: ah, so it's not me
[11:13] <lbulb> people, the dcc is not working.
[11:14] <lascar> funny thing is my headset runs PERFECTLY under skype
[11:14] <ebiven> fdoving: Will I need to update the rest of the KDEPIM packages, or is KPilot enough?
[11:14] <lascar> detection and all
[11:14] <larson9999> lascar: i just changed to eu. instead of us.
[11:14] <lascar> larson9999: and it works?
[11:14] <larson9999> yeah
[11:14] <fangorious> is there an amarok-gstreamer engine? amarok doesn't seem to be recognizing any of my m4a files (rhythmbox/banshee/totem have no problem)
[11:15] <lascar> fangorious: did you buy them off of itunes?
[11:15] <fdoving> ebiven: try just kpilot first, if it doesn't work, try the rest. I don't have a palm, i just made the packages with the debian patch.
[11:15] <fangorious> lascar: nope
[11:15] <fn0rdp0rtland> process table wont let kill some procesess any idea?
[11:15] <TheGateKeeper> flash7 --> 9 upgrade & in dapper too nice
[11:15] <fangorious> lascar: those are m4p files
[11:15] <fangorious> lascar: i ripped plain unencrypter AAC files in itunes
[11:16] <lascar> fangorious: then there shouldn't be a problem...
[11:18] <fangorious> lascar: that's what I thought, but after specifying the folder with all my files in the Build Collection dialog, it doesn't find any tracks
[11:18] <lascar> is the recursive box checked?
[11:19] <fangorious> lascar: yeah
[11:19] <robotgeek> fangorious: you might need the mp3 codecs before it scans
[11:19] <jeisma> I went to my Storage Media folder >> to my Remote Share (unionfs) >> and there were files. Is this my hard drive?
[11:19] <larson9999> lascar: works but slow
[11:20] <jeisma> anyone know?
[11:20] <jeisma> I went to my Storage Media folder >> to my Remote Share (unionfs) >> and there were files. Is this my hard drive?
[11:20] <robotgeek> !repeat
[11:20] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:20] <lbulb> unix_infidel: how can i get the dcc running? it's enabled but won't accept files from users
[11:20] <jeisma> !repeat
[11:20] <jeisma> awww
[11:20] <jeisma> so nobody knows?
[11:21] <robotgeek> jeisma: please be patient, if someone knows, someone will answer
[11:21] <jeisma> heard you the first time
[11:21] <lascar> jeisma: do you know the path to your drive?
[11:21] <fangorious> robotgeek: you have any more info on that? (i'm not using mp3 files btw, am using AAC files)
[11:21] <jeisma> no
[11:21] <robotgeek> !codecs > fangorious
[11:22] <robotgeek> fangorious: that page might have the info required, i dont know offhand
[11:22] <jeisma> lascar: do you know how to fix a boot disk failure?
[11:22] <lascar> nope
[11:22] <jeisma> ok well can you help me play streaming video on my live cd?
[11:22] <fn0rdp0rtland> why dont 3d games work with linux?its the lack of directX right?why cant someone program directX lke thing for linux?
[11:22] <jeisma> i got the windows codecs
[11:22] <jeisma> and i'm trying to get the totem-xine-firefox-plugins
[11:22] <Dr_willis> fn0rdp0rtland,  go research wine and cedega
[11:22] <jeisma> but they don't show up in my adept?
[11:23] <lascar> there is, you using cedega, fn0rdp0rtland
[11:23] <lascar> hmm...
[11:23] <ebiven> fdoving: Just the KPilot package was enough, my Treo 650 now syncs up perfectly.
[11:23] <ebiven> Thanks a ton.
[11:23] <TheGateKeeper> jeisma: has your hdd died?
[11:23] <jeisma> TheGateKeeper: i don't know yet
[11:23] <fn0rdp0rtland> Dr_willis:  thanx what are you a doctor of?
[11:23] <fdoving> ebiven: great. thanks for testing. did you comment on the bug in launchpad?
[11:23] <Dr_willis> fn0rdp0rtland,  and there are 3d games out for linux. the quake games, rtcw:et, savage 1 and 2, several of the Unreal Torueyments,  Never WInters Nights.
[11:23] <lascar> jeisma: i prefer mplayer
[11:23] <lascar> but at any rate
[11:23] <Dr_willis> fn0rdp0rtland,  im a Dr of Love!
[11:23] <jeisma> mplayer?
[11:23] <ebiven> Doing that now
[11:23] <lascar> launch synaptic, jeisma
[11:24] <fn0rdp0rtland> any in the repos?
[11:24] <lascar> or install it if you haven't already
[11:24] <fangorious> robotgeek: I already have al those gstreamer-plugins packages installed. I can play my files with any gstreamer app. I just need amarok to use gstreamer
[11:24] <robotgeek> lol, i was waiting for some crazy reply Dr_willis
[11:24] <TheGateKeeper> jeisma: so exactly what is the problem?
[11:24] <fdoving> ebiven: great, thanks :)
[11:24] <jeisma> lascar: well will that help play flash videos as well?
[11:24] <robotgeek> fangorious: then select the gstreamer engine in amarok
[11:24] <Dr_willis> There is a Ubuntu-games web site i recall
[11:24] <jeisma> TheGateKeeper: my computer starts up and it stats Boot Disk Failure, please put in boot disk and press enter
[11:24] <lascar> no jeisma, you'll need flash for that ;)
[11:25] <fangorious> robotgeek: all i have is xine, arts, and and "<no engine>"
[11:25] <jeisma> lascar: ok so how do i get totem-xine-firefox-plugins cause that helped me play flash last time
[11:25] <fn0rdp0rtland> um my computer just said  "cannot talk to klauncher"
[11:25] <robotgeek> fangorious: you might need to install it then
[11:25] <TheGateKeeper> jeisma: ok are you sure that the bios is trying to boot from the hdd?
[11:25] <fn0rdp0rtland> how do i restart it?
[11:25] <lascar> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[11:25] <fangorious> robotgeek: can you tell me the package name
[11:26] <fangorious> robotgeek: i have amarok-* installed already
[11:26] <jeisma> TheGateKeeper: well first in line is my floppy, then cd, then hard drive
[11:26] <lascar> jeisma: that'll get you flash support for firefox
[11:26] <Dr_willis> hmm...
[11:26] <fn0rdp0rtland> !cedega
[11:26] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[11:26] <Dr_willis> df -h | lpr
[11:26] <Dr_willis> lpr: Error - no default destination available.
[11:26] <LinXway> can any one point me too a tutorial or a howto on printer setup in kubuntu...
[11:26] <jeisma> lascar what will? the totem?
[11:26] <Dr_willis> ok.. how do ya set a default.. :) heh heh
[11:26] <robotgeek> fangorious: edgy/dapper?
[11:26] <jeisma> lascar so what will get it for me for konqueror?
[11:26] <lascar> jeisma: sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[11:26] <TheGateKeeper> jeisma: and the floppy & cd are empty?
[11:26] <fangorious> robotgeek: dapper
[11:26] <mc__> LinXway: look at wiki.ubuntu.com ,and searhc for Printer
[11:26] <Dheeraj_k_> .
[11:26] <jeisma> TheGateKeeper: yes
[11:27] <LinXway> I did that it doesnt solve my problm
[11:27] <lascar> jeisma: good question; i'm kinda fuzzy on that.  I believe a manual dl and install was necessary for that
[11:27] <TheGateKeeper> jeisma: and you are sure that the bios has not lost it's settings?
[11:27] <BluesKaj> flash for mozilla plugin needs to have it's own dir , not the flashdir ..otherwise FF & mozilla won't play flash
[11:28] <lbulb> mc__: how do i fix the dcc in Konversation
[11:28] <jeisma> TheGateKeeper well what would i check to see if it has not lost its settings?
[11:28] <jeisma> lascar: i did that sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla and it couldn't find the package
[11:29] <lbulb> mc__: it's enabled in the onfigure options but i cn't accept any files
[11:29] <lascar> ?
[11:29] <lascar> jeisma: are your repositories updated?
[11:29] <mc__> lbulb: dont know sorry,maybe some ports are blocked
[11:29] <fangorious> hm .... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-160500.html
[11:29] <jeisma> lascar: i just updated them
[11:29] <coreymon77> funny
[11:29] <jeisma> lascar: so they should be up to date
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> jeisma: well if you go into the bios & everything seems normal you should be ok
[11:29] <coreymon77> maybe we scared that amsn person away
[11:29] <robotgeek> fangorious: hmm, i think dapper kubuntu does not have a package for it, sorry
[11:29] <jeisma> TheGateKeeper everything looked fine. the time was off
[11:29] <BluesKaj> !mozilla flash plugin
[11:29] <ubotu> mozilla: The Mozilla Internet application suite - meta package. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.7.13-0.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[11:30] <lascar> jeisma: perhaps you misspelled it?
[11:30] <fangorious> robotgeek: yeah, just found that forum link
[11:30] <lbulb> mc__: i it a setting on my comp or it's controlled from the network?
[11:30] <lbulb> *is
[11:30] <jeisma> lascar: i copied and pasted
[11:30] <TheGateKeeper> jeisma: if you want to test your hard disk use badblocks
[11:30] <coreymon77> he said hed be right back and that was 30 minutes ago
[11:30] <lascar> then perhaps i misspelled?  :-)
[11:30] <jeisma> TheGateKeeper: how would i do that?
[11:30] <TheGateKeeper> !grub > jeisma
[11:30] <jeisma> lascar: ha hey jk, it's not updated i'm updating for sure this time
[11:30] <robotgeek> fangorious: cool
[11:30] <fn0rdp0rtland> how do i restart klauncher
[11:30] <jeisma> TheGateKeeper what is that?
[11:31] <fangorious> robotgeek: thanks for looking though
[11:31] <TheGateKeeper> jeisma: run badblocks from the command line from a live cd
[11:31] <fn0rdp0rtland> any know how to restart Klauncher?
[11:31] <jeisma> TheGateKeeper where would that be in the links you gave me?
[11:31] <TheGateKeeper> jeisma: also read the PM how to reinstall grub
[11:31] <mc__> lbulb: its controlled from the router
[11:31] <lascar> so is it safe to say that nobody here knows anything about headsets and Kubuntu?
[11:32] <fn0rdp0rtland> !klauncher
[11:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about klauncher - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:32] <jeisma> TheGateKeeper: what's grub?
[11:32] <lascar> grub = partition manager
[11:32] <lascar> like lilo
[11:32] <fangorious> jeisma: the boot loader, where you pick what kernel/os you want to boot
[11:32] <TheGateKeeper> jeisma: grub is the linux boot loader
[11:32] <word> is wine down?
[11:33] <lascar> !headset
[11:33] <word> as in..winehq.org
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about headset - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <lascar> !usb audio
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:34] <TheGateKeeper> jeisma: if you use an IDE hdd you can check it with badblock -v /dev/hda  <-- or whatever it is called
[11:34] <lascar> !alsa
[11:34] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[11:34] <lascar> !oss
[11:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:34] <TheGateKeeper> jeisma: oops I meant badblocks -v /dev/hda  <-- or whatever it is called
[11:34] <lascar> !dsp
[11:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dsp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:34] <lascar> !/dev/dsp
[11:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dev/dsp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:34] <LjL> !botabuse
[11:34] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[11:34] <LjL> !bot
[11:34] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:35] <lascar> i'm not abusing
[11:35] <lascar> those are all serious queries
[11:36] <LjL> lascar: no, randomly trying factoids until you find ones that work is abusing the bot
[11:36] <jeisma> TheGateKeeper: what do i type in the terminal to use badblocks exactly?
[11:36] <LjL> read the wiki and learn how you can search for factoids instead
[11:36] <lascar> oh
[11:36] <eloquence_> sup everybody
[11:36] <LjL> or, if you really want to just keep guessing, do it in a private query with the bot, don't flood the channel
[11:36] <lascar> my apologies, should've known better
[11:37] <LjL> it's ok
[11:37] <eloquence_> can somebody help me with what this website tells me I have to do to install my wireless driver:
[11:37] <eloquence_> In order to be able to compile the driver you will need to have the the kernel headers and source and the development tools and libraries installed.
[11:37] <eloquence_> http://cepes.org.pe/jaime/dv8000t.html
[11:37] <lascar> do you really need to compile?
[11:37] <lascar> what's your chipset?
[11:37] <BluesKaj> has anyone tackled the Mythtv, and all it's optional utilities, installation procedure ?
[11:37] <eloquence_> this guy has my same laptop but is using fedora ... i am on kubuntu 6.06 ...
[11:38] <eloquence_> Linux version 2.6.15-26-386
[11:38] <lascar> (i hate edgy; remind me to NEVER go beta again)
[11:38] <word> BluesKaj: yes..
[11:39] <BluesKaj> word, do you have it working ?
[11:39] <word> almost
[11:39] <TheGateKeeper> jeisma: well like I said if you have an ide drive called hda  then it would be badblocks -v /dev/hda
[11:39] <word> one of the 3 installs i have setup is giving me grief
[11:39] <BluesKaj> word, define almost :)
[11:39] <eloquence_> anybody know wher ei can go to read up on installing the headers and that other stuff?
[11:40] <eloquence_> This guy had the same problem I have right now: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/61647-installing-ieee80211-file-missing.html
[11:40] <word> BluesKaj: just that...3 setups 2 work fine one doesnt
[11:40] <TheGateKeeper> jeisma: if you are using sata then I think it would be badblocks -v /dev/sda
[11:41] <BluesKaj> word, is there a procedure or description of the install steps available somewhere ? I've been told that configuring Mythtv is quite a task .
[11:42] <word> BluesKaj: i think ubuntu's wiki finally has an adequate tutorial
[11:42] <lascar> !mythtv
[11:42] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[11:42] <cloakable> BluesKaj: Not on Edgy. Edgy had the latest version available
[11:42] <lascar> oh wow, and i was actually considering buying a tuner card...
[11:42] <BluesKaj> cloakable, ?
[11:43] <lascar> eloquence_: what chipset is your wireless card?
[11:44] <BluesKaj> TVtime works ok  with my ATI TV Wonder pro in video but there is no audio
[11:44] <cloakable> BluesKaj: MythTV version 0.20 is on Edgy. Latest version, looks pretty easy to setup - just apt-get it
[11:45] <purpleposeidon> How can I use a different mirror w/ apt-get?
[11:45] <purpleposeidon> just for temporary
[11:45] <lascar> purpleposeidon: edit your sources.list file to reflect the mirror of your choice
[11:51] <lascar> and i'm out
[11:51] <h3sp4wn> purpleposeidon: what mirror do you usually use ?
[11:51] <milaks> Hi. While in slackware it works perfectly, in Kubuntu when I try to debug some simple c++ program in Eclipse I get:  No registers, Stopped due to shared library event, Stopped due to shared library event. Does anyone know how to solve this please (and yes, I've been in #eclipse channel but it seems noone is alive there)?
[11:53] <max__> can someone give me the link to the alternate instalitions for kubuntu
[11:54] <eloquence_> lascar sorry i was away
[11:54] <eloquence_> my wireless card is an intel ipw3945
[11:54] <unix_infidel> max__: alternate?
[11:54] <max__> !install
[11:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:54] <snowice> is there a repository for the latest version of clamav?
[11:56] <alfmatos> hi, i came across a bug on lunchpad, wich turned out to be KDE only, related... What is the appropriate action, to subscribe the Kubuntu team to the bug ?
[11:58] <LjL> alfmatos: try asking on #ubuntu-bugs perhaps
[11:58] <alfmatos> LjL, thanks will do
[12:00] <eloquence_> is there anything complicated to installing the kernel headers and source and the development tools and libraries?
[12:01] <fn0rdp0rtland> hate my computer
[12:01] <h3sp4wn> eloquence_: aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:01] <h3sp4wn> eloquence_: kernel-headers-`uname -r` (for sarge)
[12:02] <eloquence_> ?
[12:02] <eloquence_> type those into console?
[12:02] <eloquence_> thats it?
[12:03] <h3sp4wn> eloquence_: the first one
[12:03] <h3sp4wn> eloquence_: sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[12:03] <joe_> Hey anyone, shortly after changing samba settings so I could share w my widows computer,  my router is blank when I try to access it.
[12:03] <eloquence_> ok
[12:04] <BluesKaj> anyone have a TV Wonder Pro working on Edgy withiut a seperate audio feed from the source ?
[12:04] <joe_> does this sound like a security breach?
[12:04] <eloquence_> that's it?
[12:04] <fn0rdp0rtland> would a metal computer desk that my laptop sits on interfere with a wifi card?
[12:04] <eloquence_> and source and the development tools and libraries?
[12:04] <unix_infidel> fn0rdp0rtland: not enough no.
[12:05] <eloquence_> is there a 10,000 volt current running thru the metal desk?
[12:05] <joe_> should I reset the router?
[12:05] <flaccid_> fn0rdp0rtland: its possible
[12:05] <bubu1uk> what's the command to unlock package database? adept crashed.
[12:05] <h3sp4wn> bubu1uk: /msg ubotu adept crash fix
[12:05] <unix_infidel> fn0rdp0rtland: only way is if the wireless router was beneath you.
[12:06] <flaccid_> its still possible
[12:06] <fn0rdp0rtland> i just keep getting kicked offline every couple minutes
[12:06] <eloquence_> h3sp4wn:  what bout the source and the development tools and libraries?
[12:06] <h3sp4wn> fn0rdp0rtland: It can affect it try leaving too many empty can's around a router you are trying to use
[12:07] <fn0rdp0rtland> ive been having the same problem with a cantenna too
[12:07] <unix_infidel> fn0rdp0rtland: are you getting kicked offline the net or the internal network.
[12:07] <fn0rdp0rtland> thiink il just move my computer
[12:07] <bubu1uk> h3sp4wn: thanx
[12:07] <eloquence_> good question unix_infidel
[12:07] <fn0rdp0rtland> whats the diffrence?
[12:07] <h3sp4wn> eloquence_: source is linux-source-2.6.17 development tools is too vague for me to answer
[12:08] <unix_infidel> fn0rdp0rtland: if you are kicked off the external network it can be a whole buncha things.
[12:08] <fn0rdp0rtland> unix_infidel: how do i tell?
[12:08] <unix_infidel> fn0rdp0rtland: if you can still ping the wireless router that means there's nothing wrong with your "wireless connection"
[12:08] <eloquence_> ok h3sp4wn
[12:08] <unix_infidel> at the same time, your wireless router can be overloaded by your external internet connection.
[12:08] <fn0rdp0rtland> unix_infidel:  how would i find the ip for the router?
[12:08] <flaccid_> unless you have packet loss
[12:08] <eloquence_> i can just select both the headers and the source from adept right?
[12:08] <fn0rdp0rtland> i dont even know whos router im on
[12:09] <eloquence_> lo fn0rdp0rtland
[12:09] <eloquence_> maybe u r like using sum1 elses
[12:09] <unix_infidel> fn0rdp0rtland: just try moving the computer
[12:09] <eloquence_> and they are tryin to get u off
[12:09] <snowice> never mind, seems that klamav can take care of that
[12:10] <fn0rdp0rtland> even if they think they have password protection?would they even bother to look?i dont use much bandwith
[12:10] <eloquence_> lol
[12:10] <eloquence_> all this time u been piggie backing
[12:10] <eloquence_> u oompa loompa!
[12:11] <fn0rdp0rtland> but i get 90-100% signal strength constently
[12:11] <fn0rdp0rtland> shouldent be kicking me off,i dont know give me a minute to move my box
[12:11] <helge> I have this file: ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run , anyone knows how to make the file "run"?
[12:12] <h3sp4wn> helge: I wouldn't recommend running that manually
[12:12] <helge> Oh?
[12:12] <alvin> hi ppl
[12:12] <h3sp4wn> helge: http://www.kanotix.com/files/install-fglrx-debian.sh
[12:13] <alvin> anyone here from sd ca?
[12:13] <h3sp4wn> helge: Use that it makes deb's and does the job in a cleaner way
[12:13] <h3sp4wn> helge: wget http://www.kanotix.com/files/install-fglrx-debian.sh