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jdonghow would I build a list of all the files in a directory who (1) are not dot-files (2) also do not reside in directories beginning with .?12:16
zOrKls directory/* |grep -v . > list.txt12:16
zOrK(maybe)12:16
jdongzOrK: that gets rid of anything with a dot :)12:17
jdongand isn't recursive12:17
jdongmaybe using a combination of find and grep -v with better regex....12:17
zOrKoh, you want to be showed everything containing .?12:17
jdongno, just don't show .*12:17
jdong"hidden files" :)12:18
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jdongBroadcast message from god@north.pole12:33
jdong        (/dev/pts/2) at 18:32 ...12:33
jdongThe world is going down for system-halt in 60 minutes!12:33
jdongwow I hate getting those types of e-mails12:33
jdongam I supposed to find it amusing?12:33
zOrKyes, you do12:34
mc44jdong: not santa@north.pole? how odd12:34
jdongno kidding I thought only Santa lived there12:34
jdongit gets worse than that12:34
jdongI get people trying to send me nigerian e-mail scam parodies12:35
jdongand best part is my spam filter pounces on them too :D12:35
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keescookjdong: find . -type f | fgrep -v /.          ?02:19
jdongkeescook: yeah that's what I eventually used :)02:20
jdongthanks for the reply02:21
keescookjdong: sweet.  I've actually wanted to do that before, so that was kind of fun to sit down and figure out.  :)02:21
jdong:)02:21
jdonga cheap md5summing system02:21
jdongkeescook: while we're talking.....02:21
jdongkeescook: clamav needs some security love, IIRC02:22
jdongdapper and edgy I believe02:22
keescookhm, you sure?02:22
keescooknew stuff?02:22
jdong0.88.4->0.88.6's changes, I think02:23
keescookI swear I did updates during the edgy devel cycle for clamav security.02:23
jdongmaybe I'm mistaken02:23
keescookand I see that dapper has gotten two updates already02:23
jdonglet me take a closer look02:23
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jdongI'm just going by what others have said to me so far02:24
keescookthe issue people tend to have complained about is the version differences02:24
keescookbut we don't do version bumps, we just do security patches02:24
jdongI understand that02:24
jdonglet me try to find that e-mail02:24
keescookso while it says it's 0.88.2, it's got the 0.88.6 updates.  (I think)02:24
jdongit actually listed two (?) by name02:24
keescookhowever, if you find some patches it's missing, I'd love to see them in there.02:24
keescooka lot of folks use clamav, so I try to keep it up to date even if it's in universe.02:25
jdongyeah, likewise02:25
keescookso, dapper's clamav has fixes for CVE-2006-4018 CVE-2006-4182 CVE-2006-529502:25
jdong4182 and 5295 are the ones in that e-mail... which are patched in d-s02:26
jdongso never mind02:26
keescookokay, cool.  No problem.  Always good to double-check.  :)02:26
jdongthough 0.88.4's backport... GRR I shouldn't have done that02:26
jdongthat was before your times, keescook :)02:26
keescookheh02:27
jdongwhen I had trouble getting clamav patches for d-s02:27
jdonghmm... I think my only option here is to backport a newer clamav02:28
keescookwhat's the issue?02:28
jdongdapper-backports has a 0.88.4 backport02:28
jdongwhich needs 0.88.6 loving02:28
jdongso those with backports enabled are still at risk02:28
jdongsince 0.88.4 > 0.88.202:28
keescookoooh, the dapper-backports 0.88.4 is vuln.  I see02:28
jdong -> Considering  dpkg-dev (>= 1.13.19)02:29
jdong      Tried versions: 1.13.11ubuntu7 1.13.11ubuntu602:29
jdong   -> Does not satisfy version, not trying02:29
jdonglovely :)02:29
keescookack02:29
keescooklet me know what happens with that, I've gotta split.  cya02:29
jdonghave fun02:30
jdongI think I can backport edgy's to dapper02:30
jdongfor this time around02:30
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shawarmaDoes anyone here have a debian sid system somewhere?02:35
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rootdeos anybody knows what's the name of the package which automatic recognizes all the stuff?02:35
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shawarmaall the stufF?02:35
minghuashawarma: I do02:36
shawarmaminghua: Excellent. Could you run 'apt-file serach dsextras.py' for me?02:36
minghuaI don't have apt-file installed02:37
minghuabut you can search at packages.debian.org02:38
jdongroot: I think you mean 'file'?02:38
shawarmaminghua: Oh, really?02:38
shawarmaminghua: I'll do that then.02:38
minghua(which shows there is no dsextras.py in i386 unstable)02:38
shawarmaminghua: Er.. Yes there is.02:40
shawarmaminghua: python2.3-gtk202:40
shawarmaminghua: My mistake. python-gtk202:41
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minghuashawarma: ah yes, I see there is something wrong with javascripts of my browser02:41
fernandohi all02:43
jdongminghua: you could've stopped 3 words sooner and we would've accepted that ;-)02:46
minghuaright.02:47
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theCorecool, my setup is coming nicely02:59
theCorebzr builddeb is very nice03:05
theCoreit does exactly what I wanted03:05
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theCore(sorry guys, I though I was -motu)03:07
theCorethought I was in*03:07
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somerville32Hey04:24
somerville32What is the issue with pppoe?04:24
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somerville32What is the big issue with pppoe?04:37
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somerville32Hobbsee, maybe you could elaborate a bit. I don't know anything about the issue so I don't know why there would be a "bug"05:21
somerville32It seems like a lack of implementation to me05:21
Hobbseeoh right, i thought you were talking about the pppoe | ppp dependancy thing, which someone was talking about in -bugs05:21
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Hobbseethat simply proves that you didnt give enough information at all, so shouldnt expect to be answered05:22
Hobbseeat least, in teh way you want, anyway05:22
somerville32...05:23
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somerville32I was talking about the fact that you need to use the CLI to configure pppoe05:24
Hobbseeyou didnt say that.05:26
somerville32Ugh oh.05:27
Hobbsee[14:37]  <somerville32> What is the big issue with pppoe?05:27
Hobbsee[14:24]  --> somerville32 has joined this channel (n=somervil@fctnnbsc15w-156034078085.nb.aliant.net).05:27
Hobbsee[14:24]  <somerville32> Hey05:27
Hobbsee[14:24]  <somerville32> What is the issue with pppoe?05:27
Hobbsee...like i say, you didnt actually say *what* the problem was05:27
Hobbseeand most people cant mindread05:27
somerville32They told me you had special powers >.>05:28
somerville32lol05:29
Hobbseei have many.  mind reading...not all the time05:29
somerville32Anyhows, what is the big issue with developing a solution to the problem of requiring the command line interface to configure Point-to-Point Protocol over Ethernet connections?05:30
Hobbseei suspect it's because no one's got both the time and motivation to actually code it.05:30
Hobbseeif someone's volunteering, then it will be added, i would assume05:30
somerville32A super-duper-quick fix would be to add zenity as a dep and then use that instead of whiptail.05:32
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Hobbseeyou could always file a wishlist bug for it05:34
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somerville32Well, SABDFL said to contact him personally if there was anyone interested in working on it05:35
somerville32I wonder what the big deal is05:35
Hobbseeno idea at all.  and i doubt you'll find the people in here on a sunday who do05:37
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dilingerhah!08:29
dilingerhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=14005935884808:29
somerville32:] 08:31
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Zdrais there a reason why I often get almost empty backtraces using bugbuddy ? If I use gdb I get full bt with all symbols...10:49
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dade`ahah alt tab non fa l'anteprima delle finestre minimizzate11:23
dade`e cos'e' sono in castigo ?11:23
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_ionYes, the whole Internet obviously speaks Italian.11:24
dade`ops, sorry11:24
dade`wrong channel again 11:24
giskard_ion, yeah you will be assimilated ;)11:24
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sfllawYay!  Snow!04:54
rmjbsfllaw: where?04:54
sfllawHere.04:54
sfllawIn Montral.04:54
rmjb:) thanks04:54
sfllawIt's falling upwards.04:54
rmjbupwards... too much wind?04:55
sfllawNo, the flakes are big.04:55
sfllawAnd they're picking up draughts.04:55
rmjbnice04:55
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sfllawI'd be sad without snow.04:56
rmjbmeh, never miss what you don't have04:57
rmjbI live on Mars btw04:57
sfllawDo you have water?04:58
rmjbheh, okay I live in the caribbean... lots of water, no snow04:58
sfllawI've never been there either.04:59
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rmjbnext UDS should be in the caribbean somewhere... suggest it :)05:00
sfllawI've suggested a lot of places.05:00
WashboyHi. I was wondering if any of the devs of ubuntu has looked on the gobohide patches, and if so, what they thought of it?05:00
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sivangsfllaw: I've never seen real snow 05:04
sfllawLots of people will tell you it's terrible.05:04
sfllawBut I've always loved snow and I think I always will.05:04
sivangsfllaw: I think, as already told me the habitants of a town called Ithaca in upstate New York.05:04
keescookbeing cold is terrible.  snow is wonderful.  :)05:04
Washboy^^.. snow is fun, the cold is not :P.05:05
sivangsfllaw: I think I could learn to love snow as I love rain05:05
sivangkeescook: get well soon05:05
rmjbthe one time I saw it was great, but I like my warmth... and not having to dread holding a door handle when going into a building05:05
keescooksivang: eh?  I'm well!  :)05:05
keescooksivang: I was just meaning that people that hate snow usually don't realize it's the cold that's bad.  :)05:05
sfllawrmjb: That's what gloves are for!05:05
sfllawkeescook: Yeah, being too hot or too cold is no good.05:06
rmjbsome times gloves aren't enough... or maybe I dunno how to buy gloves05:06
sfllawYou can get really good gloves.05:06
sivangeven if it's cold, as long as it's not humid cold, that is okay 05:07
sivanghumid cold is the worst ever05:07
sfllawLike chilly rain.05:07
sivangit can get irritating even at "warm" temps as 10-15-20C05:07
sivangwhich is very common here at the moment05:07
rmjb20C is COLD for us in TnT05:08
sivangsfllaw: something like that, yes, that is why many folks that have chronic breathing problems from Israel felt great even when it was -16 in Montreal or upstate New York.05:08
sivangsfllaw: (some relatives how had lived there for 2 years over one's post doc. position)05:09
sivanghumid cold is the worst enemy of folks with chronic sinus infections.05:12
sivanganyway, this is not #ubuntu-medicie05:12
sivang*medicine05:12
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WashboyI am going to repeat my question ^^.  I was wondering if any of the devs of ubuntu has looked on the gobohide patches, and if so, what they thought of it?05:25
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ivoksit's sunday05:50
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bluefoxicygeeze06:00
bluefoxicyMark is awesome06:00
bluefoxicyis he some kind of bazillionaire?06:00
bluefoxicy*sabdfl06:00
bluefoxicyhttp://www.mozilla.org/security/bug-bounty.html  <-- just found out about this last night06:00
somerville32bluefoxicy: Yes.06:04
bluefoxicyheh06:04
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Washboy8-).. sunday is no excuse! geeks are geeky no matter which day in the week it is :P.06:09
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juliuxhi all, i have a problem with the cupsys package under edgy, if i try to install it i get this error http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/5669/06:27
somerville32juliux: Please file a bug report. This channel isn't for support :)06:32
juliuxsomerville32, that isn't a suppor question it is a question about the package;)06:32
somerville32I don't see a question.06:33
somerville32:)06:33
juliuxsomerville32, i will report a bug report06:34
juliuxsomerville32, i think that * Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd                                                                                                               cupsd: Child exited on signal 11!06:35
juliuxinvoke-rc.d: initscript cupsys, action "start" failed.06:35
juliux in the postinstall make nosens because it blocks the correct installation06:35
mdkethe bug report will be fine06:36
mdkeit doesn't help trying to chase up bugs in here, imagine if everyone did that with all the bugs open on Ubuntu!06:37
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somerville32_o/07:09
Keybukput that hand down ...07:11
somerville32_o_07:11
somerville32keybuk: Are you busy?07:12
dade`<o/` dance.07:13
dade`o9 muscle07:14
somerville32:] 07:14
dade`/o\ pwnd07:14
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dade`/o/   ..o running07:14
dade`I'm one of the createst omini artist.07:15
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Keybuksomerville32: what's up?07:18
somerville32keybuk: I wanted to chat about Xubuntu stuff.07:19
Keybuksomerville32: oh?07:19
somerville32Yup.07:19
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somerville32:] 07:19
somerville32Are you free? :] 07:21
Keybuknot right now07:21
somerville32Alright.07:21
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somerville32After Feisty, the development code name should be Galloping Gecko :] 08:18
desrtthat would make the archive name 'galloping'08:20
desrtnot too catchy :)08:20
somerville32Gleaming goldfish then?08:20
somerville32Groovy Gator?08:20
desrtgroovy seems like a fairly likely name08:21
desrtour names have tended to end in y's08:21
somerville32Maybe the focus of feisty+1 will be multimedia then08:21
jdongsomerville32: you mean like Illegal Iguana or something?08:23
jdong(oops, that wasn't meant to be a Novell joke... sorry... :D)08:23
somerville32lol08:23
desrtpattented perogie08:23
somerville32Kinky Koala08:23
jdongsomerville32: ooh new artwork!08:23
desrtwow.  way to misspell both words.08:23
jdonglol08:23
desrthttp://www.freepatentsonline.com/4484390.html08:24
jdongany suggestions on testing PHP/MySQL applications without setting up a full-blown Apache?08:24
desrtjdong: there is a cli version of php08:25
jdonglike some sorta cheap HTTP daemon that could be started just for testing...08:25
desrtjdong: and you can write your php scripts in such a way that they don't assume cgi08:25
jdongwell then stuff like HTTP form input wouldn't work08:25
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desrtoh.  just install apache.08:25
jdonglol08:26
jdongI was figuring that'd be my answer08:26
dade`hi desrt08:26
desrthello dade08:26
dade`desrt: how is it going with the macbook ?08:26
desrtdade; haven't had much chance to do any hacking lately.  school has been crushing my soul.08:27
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dade`desrt: mine too, infact I spent time on hacking :P08:27
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aileanello all09:46
somerville32Hey09:47
cassidyany idea when the Herd 1 will be released ?09:47
aileandoes devel go on through the weekend or what? :)09:47
aileancassidy, it's there09:48
Mithrandirailean: no, it's not.09:48
Mithrandircassidy: hopefully tomorrow.09:48
aileancassidy, sorry, i thought it was released on thurs09:48
cassidyMithrandir: thanks :)09:49
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lifelessare there any other maintainer scripts than 'preinst and postrm' that are usefully able to cotnain dpkg-divert calls ?10:37
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somerville32Whats the package name for that "Add/Remove Applications" program?11:10
Zdrasomerville32: gnome-app-install ?11:10
somerville32Perfect, thanks11:11
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wasabiinitramfs question. Does "prereq" mean only in the current rundir?11:49
wasabiFOr instance, local-top/evms prereq's udev11:49
wasabibut udev is in init-bottom11:49
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lifelesswasabi: AFAIK, yes.11:56
wasabiso that would be a bug which prevents me from booting11:58
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