[12:16] how would I build a list of all the files in a directory who (1) are not dot-files (2) also do not reside in directories beginning with .? [12:16] ls directory/* |grep -v . > list.txt [12:16] (maybe) [12:17] zOrK: that gets rid of anything with a dot :) [12:17] and isn't recursive [12:17] maybe using a combination of find and grep -v with better regex.... [12:17] oh, you want to be showed everything containing .? [12:17] no, just don't show .* [12:18] "hidden files" :) === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:33] Broadcast message from god@north.pole [12:33] (/dev/pts/2) at 18:32 ... [12:33] The world is going down for system-halt in 60 minutes! [12:33] wow I hate getting those types of e-mails [12:33] am I supposed to find it amusing? [12:34] yes, you do [12:34] jdong: not santa@north.pole? how odd [12:34] no kidding I thought only Santa lived there [12:34] it gets worse than that [12:35] I get people trying to send me nigerian e-mail scam parodies [12:35] and best part is my spam filter pounces on them too :D === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel === smh [n=smh@CPE-67-48-248-195.new.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === desrt [n=desrt@ubuntu/member/desrt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === beuno [n=martin@201-212-189-45.net.prima.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm57.omega18.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:19] jdong: find . -type f | fgrep -v /. ? [02:20] keescook: yeah that's what I eventually used :) [02:21] thanks for the reply [02:21] jdong: sweet. I've actually wanted to do that before, so that was kind of fun to sit down and figure out. :) [02:21] :) [02:21] a cheap md5summing system [02:21] keescook: while we're talking..... [02:22] keescook: clamav needs some security love, IIRC [02:22] dapper and edgy I believe [02:22] hm, you sure? [02:22] new stuff? [02:23] 0.88.4->0.88.6's changes, I think [02:23] I swear I did updates during the edgy devel cycle for clamav security. [02:23] maybe I'm mistaken [02:23] and I see that dapper has gotten two updates already [02:23] let me take a closer look === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:24] I'm just going by what others have said to me so far [02:24] the issue people tend to have complained about is the version differences [02:24] but we don't do version bumps, we just do security patches [02:24] I understand that [02:24] let me try to find that e-mail [02:24] so while it says it's 0.88.2, it's got the 0.88.6 updates. (I think) [02:24] it actually listed two (?) by name [02:24] however, if you find some patches it's missing, I'd love to see them in there. [02:25] a lot of folks use clamav, so I try to keep it up to date even if it's in universe. [02:25] yeah, likewise [02:25] so, dapper's clamav has fixes for CVE-2006-4018 CVE-2006-4182 CVE-2006-5295 [02:26] 4182 and 5295 are the ones in that e-mail... which are patched in d-s [02:26] so never mind [02:26] okay, cool. No problem. Always good to double-check. :) [02:26] though 0.88.4's backport... GRR I shouldn't have done that [02:26] that was before your times, keescook :) [02:27] heh [02:27] when I had trouble getting clamav patches for d-s [02:28] hmm... I think my only option here is to backport a newer clamav [02:28] what's the issue? [02:28] dapper-backports has a 0.88.4 backport [02:28] which needs 0.88.6 loving [02:28] so those with backports enabled are still at risk [02:28] since 0.88.4 > 0.88.2 [02:28] oooh, the dapper-backports 0.88.4 is vuln. I see [02:29] -> Considering dpkg-dev (>= 1.13.19) [02:29] Tried versions: 1.13.11ubuntu7 1.13.11ubuntu6 [02:29] -> Does not satisfy version, not trying [02:29] lovely :) [02:29] ack [02:29] let me know what happens with that, I've gotta split. cya [02:30] have fun [02:30] I think I can backport edgy's to dapper [02:30] for this time around === mc44 [n=mc44@ip-81-170-100-167.cust.homechoice.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm57.omega18.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:35] Does anyone here have a debian sid system somewhere? === root [n=root@c-66-176-68-228.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:35] deos anybody knows what's the name of the package which automatic recognizes all the stuff? === root [n=root@c-66-176-68-228.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [02:35] all the stufF? [02:36] shawarma: I do [02:36] minghua: Excellent. Could you run 'apt-file serach dsextras.py' for me? [02:37] I don't have apt-file installed [02:38] but you can search at packages.debian.org [02:38] root: I think you mean 'file'? [02:38] minghua: Oh, really? [02:38] minghua: I'll do that then. [02:38] (which shows there is no dsextras.py in i386 unstable) [02:40] minghua: Er.. Yes there is. [02:40] minghua: python2.3-gtk2 [02:41] minghua: My mistake. python-gtk2 === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:41] shawarma: ah yes, I see there is something wrong with javascripts of my browser [02:43] hi all [02:46] minghua: you could've stopped 3 words sooner and we would've accepted that ;-) [02:47] right. === Seilo [n=seif@P5118.pallas.wh.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _MMA_ [n=atm@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:59] cool, my setup is coming nicely [03:05] bzr builddeb is very nice [03:05] it does exactly what I wanted === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:07] (sorry guys, I though I was -motu) [03:07] thought I was in* === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu-devel ["] === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.12.194.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === minghua is now known as ming|away === j_ack [n=rudi@p508DA2A9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-128-96.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zOrK [n=eclipse@c-66-176-68-228.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === beuno [n=martin@201-212-189-45.net.prima.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Halcy0n [n=halcy0n@pdpc/supporter/active/Halcy0n] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kmitch87 [n=kyle@24.144.37.147] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kmitch87 [n=kyle@24.144.37.147] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel === drkm [n=none@cpc4-norw4-0-0-cust178.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === drkm [n=none@cpc4-norw4-0-0-cust178.pete.cable.ntl.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gerrath_ [n=Gerrath@c-71-236-114-74.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === somerville32 [n=somervil@fctnnbsc15w-156034078085.nb.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:24] Hey [04:24] What is the issue with pppoe? === ademan [n=dan@h-68-164-186-127.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:37] What is the big issue with pppoe? === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jorgp [n=jorgp@adsl-70-234-108-24.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === somerville32 [n=somervil@fctnnbsc15w-156034078085.nb.aliant.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.231.145] has joined #ubuntu-devel === somerville32 [n=somervil@fctnnbsc15w-156034078085.nb.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:21] Hobbsee, maybe you could elaborate a bit. I don't know anything about the issue so I don't know why there would be a "bug" [05:21] It seems like a lack of implementation to me [05:21] oh right, i thought you were talking about the pppoe | ppp dependancy thing, which someone was talking about in -bugs === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:22] that simply proves that you didnt give enough information at all, so shouldnt expect to be answered [05:22] at least, in teh way you want, anyway [05:23] ... === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:24] I was talking about the fact that you need to use the CLI to configure pppoe [05:26] you didnt say that. [05:27] Ugh oh. [05:27] [14:37] What is the big issue with pppoe? [05:27] [14:24] --> somerville32 has joined this channel (n=somervil@fctnnbsc15w-156034078085.nb.aliant.net). [05:27] [14:24] Hey [05:27] [14:24] What is the issue with pppoe? [05:27] ...like i say, you didnt actually say *what* the problem was [05:27] and most people cant mindread [05:28] They told me you had special powers >.> [05:29] lol [05:29] i have many. mind reading...not all the time [05:30] Anyhows, what is the big issue with developing a solution to the problem of requiring the command line interface to configure Point-to-Point Protocol over Ethernet connections? [05:30] i suspect it's because no one's got both the time and motivation to actually code it. [05:30] if someone's volunteering, then it will be added, i would assume [05:32] A super-duper-quick fix would be to add zenity as a dep and then use that instead of whiptail. === Hobbsee doesnt know === Hobbsee doesnt work with it [05:34] you could always file a wishlist bug for it === Seeker`` [n=Seeker@84-12-167-90.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:35] Well, SABDFL said to contact him personally if there was anyone interested in working on it [05:35] I wonder what the big deal is [05:37] no idea at all. and i doubt you'll find the people in here on a sunday who do === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack_ [n=rudi@p508DA8F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Seeker```` [n=Seeker@84-12-167-90.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm57.omega18.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pradeep [n=pradeep@59.92.35.220] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j_ack__ [n=rudi@p508D9BEE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ScottK [n=kitterma@static-72-81-252-22.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _TomB [n=tomb@host81-152-42-42.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ming|away is now known as minghua === timfrost [n=timfrost@125-238-33-97.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel === timfrost [n=timfrost@125-238-33-97.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === dade` [n=dade@nectarine/admin/dade] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dade` [n=dade@nectarine/admin/dade] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:29] hah! [08:29] http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140059358848 [08:31] :] === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `anthony [n=anthony@220-253-14-171.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pradeep [n=pradeep@59.92.66.36] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === orkid [n=mike@bas1-barrie18-1242375428.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Zdra [n=zdra@103.21-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:49] is there a reason why I often get almost empty backtraces using bugbuddy ? If I use gdb I get full bt with all symbols... === mc44 [n=mc44@ip-81-170-100-167.cust.homechoice.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@221.216.190.12] has joined #ubuntu-devel === niktaris [n=niktaris@ppp25-155.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === auxesis_ [n=lindsay@quasimodo.unstated.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:23] ahah alt tab non fa l'anteprima delle finestre minimizzate [11:23] e cos'e' sono in castigo ? === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:24] <_ion> Yes, the whole Internet obviously speaks Italian. 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Snow! [04:54] sfllaw: where? [04:54] Here. [04:54] In Montral. [04:54] :) thanks [04:54] It's falling upwards. [04:55] upwards... too much wind? [04:55] No, the flakes are big. [04:55] And they're picking up draughts. [04:55] nice === rmjb saw snow only once [04:56] I'd be sad without snow. [04:57] meh, never miss what you don't have [04:57] I live on Mars btw [04:58] Do you have water? [04:58] heh, okay I live in the caribbean... lots of water, no snow [04:59] I've never been there either. === Washboy [n=magnusjj@81-232-134-237-no22.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:00] next UDS should be in the caribbean somewhere... suggest it :) [05:00] I've suggested a lot of places. [05:00] Hi. I was wondering if any of the devs of ubuntu has looked on the gobohide patches, and if so, what they thought of it? === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:04] sfllaw: I've never seen real snow [05:04] Lots of people will tell you it's terrible. [05:04] But I've always loved snow and I think I always will. [05:04] sfllaw: I think, as already told me the habitants of a town called Ithaca in upstate New York. [05:04] being cold is terrible. snow is wonderful. :) [05:05] ^^.. snow is fun, the cold is not :P. [05:05] sfllaw: I think I could learn to love snow as I love rain [05:05] keescook: get well soon [05:05] the one time I saw it was great, but I like my warmth... and not having to dread holding a door handle when going into a building [05:05] sivang: eh? I'm well! :) [05:05] sivang: I was just meaning that people that hate snow usually don't realize it's the cold that's bad. :) [05:05] rmjb: That's what gloves are for! [05:06] keescook: Yeah, being too hot or too cold is no good. [05:06] some times gloves aren't enough... or maybe I dunno how to buy gloves [05:06] You can get really good gloves. [05:07] even if it's cold, as long as it's not humid cold, that is okay [05:07] humid cold is the worst ever [05:07] Like chilly rain. [05:07] it can get irritating even at "warm" temps as 10-15-20C [05:07] which is very common here at the moment [05:08] 20C is COLD for us in TnT [05:08] sfllaw: something like that, yes, that is why many folks that have chronic breathing problems from Israel felt great even when it was -16 in Montreal or upstate New York. [05:09] sfllaw: (some relatives how had lived there for 2 years over one's post doc. position) [05:12] humid cold is the worst enemy of folks with chronic sinus infections. [05:12] anyway, this is not #ubuntu-medicie [05:12] *medicine === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=bob@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-devel === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:25] I am going to repeat my question ^^. I was wondering if any of the devs of ubuntu has looked on the gobohide patches, and if so, what they thought of it? === pecisk [n=pecisk@purvc-44-54.maksinets.lv] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:50] it's sunday === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-devel === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:00] geeze [06:00] Mark is awesome [06:00] is he some kind of bazillionaire? [06:00] *sabdfl [06:00] http://www.mozilla.org/security/bug-bounty.html <-- just found out about this last night [06:04] bluefoxicy: Yes. [06:04] heh === pvanhoof [n=pvanhoof@d54C0EE14.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:09] 8-).. sunday is no excuse! geeks are geeky no matter which day in the week it is :P. === Fjodor [n=sune@0x55510b65.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jinty [n=jinty@177.Red-83-54-74.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jelmer [n=jelmer@gwalcmai.vernstok.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lunaryorn [n=lunar@p3E9E734D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lunaryorn [n=lunar@p3E9E734D.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:27] hi all, i have a problem with the cupsys package under edgy, if i try to install it i get this error http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/5669/ [06:32] juliux: Please file a bug report. This channel isn't for support :) [06:32] somerville32, that isn't a suppor question it is a question about the package;) [06:33] I don't see a question. [06:33] :) [06:34] somerville32, i will report a bug report [06:35] somerville32, i think that * Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd cupsd: Child exited on signal 11! [06:35] invoke-rc.d: initscript cupsys, action "start" failed. [06:35] in the postinstall make nosens because it blocks the correct installation [06:36] the bug report will be fine [06:37] it doesn't help trying to chase up bugs in here, imagine if everyone did that with all the bugs open on Ubuntu! === asdmin213 [n=joefso@ip503d4396.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === orkid [n=mike@bas1-barrie18-1242375428.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === niktaris [n=niktaris@ppp25-155.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ubuntu_demon [n=depjayds@s5592b629.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === shackan [n=shackan@host124-152-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Verlassend"] === geser [n=michael@leary.ping.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk [n=scott@syndicate.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:09] _o/ [07:11] put that hand down ... [07:11] _o_ [07:12] keybuk: Are you busy? [07:13] o9 muscle [07:14] :] [07:14] /o\ pwnd === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:14] /o/ ..o running [07:15] I'm one of the createst omini artist. === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:18] somerville32: what's up? [07:19] keybuk: I wanted to chat about Xubuntu stuff. [07:19] somerville32: oh? [07:19] Yup. === mbiebl [n=michael@e180075030.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:19] :] [07:21] Are you free? :] [07:21] not right now [07:21] Alright. === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Spads [n=spacehob@host-87-74-89-177.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A7376C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-63-17.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === orkid__ [n=mike@bas1-barrie18-1242466941.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:18] After Feisty, the development code name should be Galloping Gecko :] [08:20] that would make the archive name 'galloping' [08:20] not too catchy :) [08:20] Gleaming goldfish then? [08:20] Groovy Gator? [08:21] groovy seems like a fairly likely name [08:21] our names have tended to end in y's [08:21] Maybe the focus of feisty+1 will be multimedia then [08:23] somerville32: you mean like Illegal Iguana or something? [08:23] (oops, that wasn't meant to be a Novell joke... sorry... :D) [08:23] lol [08:23] pattented perogie [08:23] Kinky Koala [08:23] somerville32: ooh new artwork! [08:23] wow. way to misspell both words. [08:23] lol [08:24] http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4484390.html [08:24] any suggestions on testing PHP/MySQL applications without setting up a full-blown Apache? [08:25] jdong: there is a cli version of php [08:25] like some sorta cheap HTTP daemon that could be started just for testing... [08:25] jdong: and you can write your php scripts in such a way that they don't assume cgi [08:25] well then stuff like HTTP form input wouldn't work === thekorn [n=markus@a89-182-9-147.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:25] oh. just install apache. [08:26] lol [08:26] I was figuring that'd be my answer [08:26] hi desrt [08:26] hello dade [08:26] desrt: how is it going with the macbook ? [08:27] dade; haven't had much chance to do any hacking lately. school has been crushing my soul. === mc44 [n=mc44@ip-81-170-100-167.cust.homechoice.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:27] desrt: mine too, infact I spent time on hacking :P === nnonix [n=brad@xeon.bkjohnson.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=bob@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stevemcqueen [n=stevemcq@80-193-22-182.cable.ubr12.live.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cassidy [n=cassidy@16.137-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === gicmo [n=gicmo@p5491E457.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thekorn [n=markus@a89-182-9-147.net-htp.de] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-128-96.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Seeker` [n=Seeker@84-12-167-90.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Seeker`` [n=Seeker@84-12-167-90.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi [n=wasabi@ubuntu/member/wasabi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zOrK [n=eclipse@c-66-176-68-228.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === smh [n=smh@CPE-67-48-248-195.new.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === smh [n=smh@CPE-67-48-248-195.new.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-76-223.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bm1 [n=bram@cc400801-a.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bm1 [n=bram@cc400801-a.groni1.gr.home.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === ailean [n=ailean@82-40-205-105.stb.ubr07.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:46] ello all [09:47] Hey [09:47] any idea when the Herd 1 will be released ? [09:47] does devel go on through the weekend or what? :) [09:48] cassidy, it's there [09:48] ailean: no, it's not. [09:48] cassidy: hopefully tomorrow. [09:48] cassidy, sorry, i thought it was released on thurs [09:49] Mithrandir: thanks :) === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A7376C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jamesh [n=james@203-59-208-48.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Iknos [n=Eons@host-84-221-198-73.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi [n=wasabi@ubuntu/member/wasabi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mc44 [n=mc44@ip-81-170-100-167.cust.homechoice.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-devel === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:37] are there any other maintainer scripts than 'preinst and postrm' that are usefully able to cotnain dpkg-divert calls ? === Xof [n=mas01cr@gibbons.doc.gold.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === finalbeta_ [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marsu [n=user@c83-252-78-72.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:10] Whats the package name for that "Add/Remove Applications" program? [11:10] somerville32: gnome-app-install ? [11:11] Perfect, thanks === Ingar [n=saltvik@ti500720a080-2927.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zOrK [n=eclipse@c-66-176-68-228.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-128-96.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jamesh [n=james@203-59-208-48.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [n=bob@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-081-247.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-128-96.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-148-159.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:49] initramfs question. Does "prereq" mean only in the current rundir? 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