[01:15] <lotusleaf> Burgundavia: ok, I aborted a link scrounging session for reviews, too many ubuntu reviews to sort through to find kubuntu and other reviews, and you can't easily omit ubuntu from the search when searching for the others. =)
[03:53] <lophyte> nixternal: ping
[03:53] <nixternal> yo yo
[03:54] <lophyte> hey..
[03:54] <lophyte> where do you guys (ubuntu-chicago) get funding for projects that need money?
[03:55] <nixternal> we pitch in
[03:55] <lophyte> ah, so it comes out of your pockets?
[03:55] <nixternal> i know myself and another member forked out some cash last meeting
[03:55] <nixternal> i will probably plan on forking out around $100 for the next meeting as well
[03:55] <lophyte> ubuntu-to has only been around for 3 months, and people are constantly bringing up the idea of trying to make it an NPO
[03:56] <nixternal> we are doing the same
[03:56] <nixternal> but can't because ubuntu is registered 
[03:56] <nixternal> canonical is the only ones who could do it
[03:56] <lophyte> and I keep discouraging it
[03:56] <lophyte> you're doing what?
[03:57] <lophyte> talking about it?
[03:58] <nixternal> trying a not-for-profit
[03:58] <lophyte> I think its beyond the scope of a LoCo team to do that
[03:58] <lophyte> maybe its just me though
[03:58] <nixternal> im sure it is
[03:58] <nixternal> but it is the only way to get proper funding for events, meetings and what not
[03:58] <nixternal> i can't expect people to keep forking out cash for every little thing we do..it turns people away
[03:59] <lophyte> right... but my feeling is that going through the process of registering as an NPO is too much overhead
[03:59] <lophyte> its excess work imo
[04:00] <nixternal> actually, registering it here in Illinois is free if you take the silly class the state offers
[04:00] <nixternal> the crappy part are the tax licenses
[04:00] <lophyte> well, I don't mean having to pay for it, I mean all the work that is involved...
[04:01] <lophyte> you have to keep track of your finances and report stuff to the goverment and all that
[04:01] <lophyte> perhaps creating a separate entity?
[04:01] <lophyte> that way, it avoids the 'Ubuntu' trademark..
[04:02] <nixternal> ya, we can't use the Ubuntu trademark in the US
[04:02] <lophyte> so you could create a separate entity that works more or less hand-in-hand with your LoCo
[04:02] <nixternal> we could
[04:02] <lophyte> and call it something like "Chicago Open Source whatever"
[04:03] <lophyte> I don't know what you'd call it
[04:03] <lophyte> chicago open source initiative? *shrug*
[04:04] <nixternal> we could
[04:05] <lophyte> might be something worth exploring :)
[04:06] <lophyte> anyway I gotta head to bed..I just wanted to pick your brain regarding loco+NPO stuff
[04:06] <nixternal> im thinking about bed as well
[04:06] <nixternal> im tired
[04:06] <lophyte> me too
[04:52] <poningru> yarr
[04:52] <somerville32> :] 
[04:52] <somerville32> poingru: You can away!
[04:52] <poningru> sorry 
[04:52] <poningru> I was watching movie
[05:01] <Admiral_Chicago> lophyte: i'm not sure how i feel about the idea ^^chiacago loco
[05:02] <somerville32> *ran
[05:02] <somerville32> bah
[05:20] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't think we would need it
[12:32] <jenda> elkbuntu: ping
[12:34] <elkbuntu> pong
[12:42] <jenda> you were asking for locoteam stuffs
[12:43] <jenda> Not sure if it is of interest to you, but the CZLUG has organised the Linux Weekend - this weekend, and both Czech Ubuntu members spoke there...
[12:43] <jenda> ...unfortunately, ondrej's topic was VoIP, and mine Accelerated Desktop (shown on Ubuntu)
[12:44] <jenda> 100 Ubuntu CDs were given to the first 100 people, and I gave out a few more personally later on (will return today with more)
[12:44] <elkbuntu> cool
[12:44] <Admiral_Chicago> jenda: how are the shirts coming?
[12:44] <elkbuntu> add a writeup to the UWN :)
[12:44] <Admiral_Chicago> also, the posters?
[12:45] <jenda> Admiral_Chicago: yesterday, I met a guy who's starting his own printer, and is interested in making Ubuntu stuff on his own... that means... could be good... 
[12:45] <jenda> but he is in it for the money, so maybe not that good. Depends on the prices he ends up doing.
[12:46] <jenda> The thing is, when you buy something from me - you _still_ make profit for some printer, and this way, it could get cheaper.
[12:46] <jenda> for the Ubuntu user.
[12:46] <tsmithe> well, you could always be competitive
[12:46] <tsmithe> and he'd lower his prices
[12:47] <jenda> of course - as long as there is cheaper stuff out there, he'd have to go lower.
[12:47] <jenda> But you know - if we didn't like what he's doing, I don't think he'd sell a single thing ;)
[12:47] <Admiral_Chicago> jenda: still have posters? last ? before I say night
[12:47] <jenda> I have to check with jono first.
[12:47] <jenda> Admiral_Chicago: yes, 80 left
[12:47] <Admiral_Chicago> okay good
[12:47] <Admiral_Chicago> bbl