[12:13] yeah, exactly [12:14] minghua, do you use one repository for each package? [12:15] siretart / ajmitch - can you re-sync the list, please? === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:24] theCore: Not now. But that was not decided by me. If I use my own repository, then yes, I would use one repo for each package. [12:24] minghua, thanks === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp242-122.lns3.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] I think I will try bzr and svn, then I will which work better for me === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:32] finally, I found a program to package [12:33] usually, there's always a debian guy who taken all the fun [12:33] :) [12:34] theCore: package tovid while you're at it :) [12:34] theCore: the author really wants a proper debian package [12:34] jdong, oh thanks, I will look at it === selinuxium [n=selinium@82-34-184-164.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:35] theCore: I've made a pretty terrible initial-attempt at http://buntudot.org/people/~jdong/tovid [12:36] theCore: it isn't anywhere near Debian-compliance, but it already beats checkinstalling... help the guy out :) [12:36] hehe === jdong has saved learning python-central for another day === rpedro [n=rpedro@89-180-143-159.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nolimitsoya [n=nolimits@176.139.216.81.static.vhe.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [i=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] anyone into stepmania? anyone into reviewing and also into stepmania? [01:02] Is stepmania better then pydance? === Simon80_ [n=Simon80@bas6-toronto63-1167881021.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:12] Simon80, i'll test it, just link me to sources === foofffffffffffff [n=Simon80@bas6-toronto63-1096805783.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Cyllene [n=cy@unaffiliated/cyllene] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:13] Hye Cyllene [01:13] Hey everyone. How could one apply to be a maintainer? === foofffffffffffff is now known as Simon80 [01:13] Simon80, i'll test it, just link me to sources [01:13] http://revu.tauware.de/ [01:13] two packages [01:14] How do I use diff again (ie. what are the flags I need to use)? :P [01:14] Cyllene: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Hopeful/Recruitment [01:14] somerville32: -Nur [01:14] no changes to the orig.tar.gz cept the name change? [01:15] And how do I generate one between two directories? [01:15] hmm? [01:15] oh, no [01:15] check the diff [01:15] -r is recursive [01:15] somerville32: diff -Nur dir1 dir2 [01:15] Thanks a bunch :) [01:17] geser: That doesn't seem to work [01:17] Whoa, ryanakca. That's a lot of work. :/ [01:17] Oh [01:17] Dof [01:17] my fault [01:18] Geser: I'm preparing a patch to fix a bug so what I'm doing is tacking the revision before the fix and the revision that fixed and creating a patch to apply to the package. Is this the right track? [01:18] s/tacking/taking [01:19] Cyllene: what is? packaging? [01:19] yes === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:20] ryanakca: No, becoming a member is. :p [01:20] darkmagez: are you doing ok with it? [01:20] Cyllene: if you just want to maintain one package, you can just do your work and ask somebody here to upload it for you [01:20] hmm [01:20] Simon80, i'm reading it now :) [01:21] the diff? [01:21] geser: Should the earlier revision be the first argument and the next revision the second argument? [01:21] btw, if you want binaries, I can link you to that too [01:22] somerville32: diff -Nur old_version new_version [01:22] Cyllene: yeah... that's what I do :) [01:22] geser: And to apply, I would do patch -Nur --dry-run ../patch.diff ? [01:23] (for a dry run) [01:23] Cool. [01:23] Simon80, it looks good. i'm building it now [01:23] And if you maintain a few packages for a while, you can work your way up to membership maybe. :) [01:23] cool [01:23] like I said, I have edgy i386 binaries published... I should at least [01:24] somerville32: patch -p1 --dry-run < ../patch.diff [01:24] Cyllene: exactly. [01:24] in the old_version dir [01:25] geser: I didn't get any errors from the dryn run so it is safe to apply, right? :) [01:25] I suppose you shouuldn't trust me, and build it yourself, but that takes time :D [01:26] somerville32: yes [01:26] ryanakca: What packages do you maintain? [01:27] Cyllene: just a sec [01:28] Cyllene: https://launchpad.net/people/ryanakca/+packages [01:29] geser: The current package version is 0.2.2-2ubuntu5. Should the new package be 0.2.2-2ubuntu6 or 0.2.2-2ubuntu5.1? [01:29] for which release? [01:29] for feisty it would be 0.2.2-2ubuntu6 [01:30] dapper [01:30] I'm doing an SRU [01:30] then 0.2.2-2ubuntu5.1 [01:30] k [01:30] :] [01:33] 2ubuntu5.0.6.10-1? [01:33] (j/k) :D [01:34] would this make 2ubuntu5.0.6.10 part of the version and -1 the revision? [01:35] sure let's go with that :) [01:37] This packaging thing is getting easier with more practise [01:40] Can someone review?: http://pastebin.ca/265101 [01:43] looks ok to me [01:43] I would also add a # before the bug numbers [01:44] k [01:44] :] [01:46] but it' more of a personal taste [01:56] I'm realizing that using svn would only add an overhead to my packaging tasks [01:59] I only version packaging info selectively... [01:59] and svn adds as much overhead as you can ask for :) [01:59] What do I do if I get an error when signing the package? [01:59] ok, I take that back [01:59] s/svn/CVS [01:59] I wonder when HCT will be ready [01:59] I think I need to use a flag to specify the key by id [01:59] Whats the flag? [01:59] somerville32, -k [02:00] theCore: cat hurd-joke | sed -e 's/hurd/HCT/g' [02:00] hehe [02:03] I think I will try bzr-builddeb [02:03] a debdiff is a patch, right? [02:03] yeah, pretty much [02:04] So I would check the checkmark in the lp post comment section, right? [02:06] I don't know [02:06] I know I don't [02:06] What does it do anyhow? [02:07] theCore: I only put debian/ dir into SVN [02:07] minghua, hmm, interesting [02:08] somerville32: I label debdiff as a patch. :-) I don't think that label is important, though [02:09] personally, I would like to separate the *.orig.tar.gz into a tarballs/ directory and put my builds inside build-area/ [02:11] that sounds a very good idea, but probably need some smart scripts to automate the work [02:11] especially if you have contents in .diff.gz that is out of debian/ dir [02:11] that what I was thinking doing [02:11] I know some maintainers/teams do things that way, though [02:12] Debian's vim team, for example [02:12] but they use a unusual .orig.tar.gz structure [02:12] a tarball-and-patch-in-orig.tar.gz one [02:12] oh, I see [02:12] I hate building packages [02:12] It takes forever :/ [02:13] hehe [02:15] the other nice thing I was thinking is having a build daemon to make package from the fresh upstream source. [02:15] Simon80, stepmania claims that there are no songs installed. i've got stepmania & stepmania data installed. no default songs? [02:16] but, I imagine it would be quite hard to maintain [02:17] however, it would be very useful === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:33] Anyone here on dapper 64bit? [02:34] DarkMageZ, typically there are no default songs for stepmania === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-101-122.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:35] yeah, i just noticed that, i always had someone set stepmania up for me === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:43] hi all [02:43] Hi. === plerk [n=chatzill@cpe-24-168-146-16.nj.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:45] darkmagez: nope, sorry [02:46] http://www.stepmania.com/wiki/Download_Songs [02:46] I get mine from DDRUK, if you want DDR songs... but that's likely copyright infringement [02:47] so that's all I'm gonna say about that here [02:48] hey, anyone of you know if imbrandon is around? [02:48] but at stepmania.com, the developers are making efforts to get people to submit original songs. The reason one would want DDR songs is so that they can practice those at home, and then know them already when they hit an arcade machine === elektranox [n=elektran@p5481D317.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:51] hmm [02:52] With gpg, I have two keys, a main key (rsa) and a subkey (rsa). Which one do I send to the ubuntu keyserver? [02:52] One is used for encryption and the other for signing. [02:52] I want to say the one for encryption, but you would think that an RSA key has two parts, a public and private part. === _MMA_ [n=atm@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:58] Simon80, ok it works and the packaging looks good to me. [02:58] thanks [02:59] but you can't review it, right? [02:59] did you get any songs, btw? [03:01] Simon80, i completed a dance with a song i found on the net and tried an alternative ui. unfortunantly no i can't review. === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] hehe, well thanks === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elektranox [n=elektran@p5481D317.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:10] still no admin online? [03:11] send an email to that address and wait a day [03:11] I did that on friday morning [03:11] got synced in the afternoon [03:11] k === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:26] hey! either of u seen imbrandon around? [03:26] Cyllene, you always send the public part. Keep the private part well-guarded === PriceChild [n=pricechi@unix0.york.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:31] hey hobbsee, can you review? [03:31] hey Simon80 [03:31] not at the moment === Hobbsee hastn even had breakfast yet [03:31] lol [03:31] at this hour?! [03:31] oh, but you're capable [03:32] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3608, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3609 [03:32] haha [03:32] ajmitch: can review [03:32] well, someone, lol [03:36] theCore: Well, yeah. But I incorrectly assumed that the presence of an RSA key meant you have both a public and a private part. [03:37] gpg makes the distinction between which key is for signing and which key is for encrypting. [03:37] Cyllene, well, that's what public-key encryption is all about [03:37] theCore: Yeah but usually I would generate "one" RSA key which was the public and private parts. [03:37] Cyllene, is it the first time you use gpg? [03:38] No it's not, it's just the first time I am making my keys all complicated and not the default way. :p [03:38] Cyllene, what is wrong with the default options? [03:39] theCore: Nothing, I just have a habit of trying things different ways. [03:40] I.e, I like to look at different settings and methods and see what happens when you change them. === somerville32_ [n=somervil@fctnnbsc15w-156034078085.nb.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kmitch87 [n=kyle@24.144.37.147] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kmitch87 [n=kyle@24.144.37.147] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:53] ajmitch: you'r one of the REVU admins, aren't you? could you please re-sync the keyring? === plerk [n=chatzill@cpe-24-168-146-16.nj.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === deadlydeathcone_ [n=john@71.141.142.130] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Simon80_ [n=Simon80@bas6-toronto63-1167880893.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ademan [n=dan@h-68-164-186-127.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fooooooooooooooo [n=Simon80@bas6-toronto63-1096593237.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fooooooooooooooo is now known as Simon80 [04:37] now, I love my setup [04:38] I got everything at the right place [04:38] hopefully, it will pay off === Simon80_ [n=Simon80@bas6-toronto63-1167880352.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jorgp [n=jorgp@adsl-70-234-108-24.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:48] Is there a TODO list somewhere? === Simon80 [n=Simon80@bas6-toronto63-1096593090.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:58] somerville32: there's a merges list [04:58] merges.ubuntu.com === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Cyllene [n=cy@unaffiliated/cyllene] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cinod [n=sufiyan@60.51.88.163] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seeker`` [n=Seeker@84-12-167-90.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seeker```` [n=Seeker@84-12-167-90.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:53] Can someone re-sync the REVU uploaders keyring please? [05:54] ajmitch: ^ [05:55] Use your stick thinger to get his attention :] [05:56] nah... === somerville32 hugs Hobbsee. === nolimitsoya [n=nolimits@176.139.216.81.static.vhe.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:14] gnight all [06:15] Night === rexbron [n=rexbron@199.212.72.37] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub_ [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:51] anyone feel like reviewing 8) === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [i=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@199.212.72.37] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [i=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nolimitsoya [n=nolimits@176.139.216.81.static.vhe.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lupine_85 [n=lupine@nick.lupine.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@199.212.72.37] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [i=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@199.212.72.37] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [i=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [i=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lupine_85 [n=lupine@nick.lupine.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@199.212.72.37] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nolimitsoya [n=nolimits@176.139.216.81.static.vhe.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [i=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@199.212.72.37] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [i=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nolimitsoya [n=nolimits@176.139.216.81.static.vhe.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nolimitsoya [n=nolimits@176.139.216.81.static.vhe.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === peanutb [n=peanutb@c-71-197-218-111.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:21] can the gpg keyring please be resynced === DBO [n=DBO@unaffiliated/dbo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:21] bhale: exess flood kicks [07:21] DBO: [07:22] ? [07:22] beofre you joined [07:22] want a paste? === rob [i=rob@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:23] DBO: http://fluxbuntu.org//view.php?id=302 [07:23] yeah its a bot attack [07:24] yeah === ryanakca [i=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lupine_85 [n=lupine@nick.lupine.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nolimitsoya [n=nolimits@176.139.216.81.static.vhe.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:29] how would i submit a package that is written in php? === hub__ [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin [n=Lutin@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub__ [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:09] peanutb: Same way you would submit any other package. === nolimitsoya [n=nolimits@176.139.216.81.static.vhe.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@catv-tisnov-86.selfnet.cz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:31] Anyone around? === peanutb [n=peanutb@c-71-197-218-111.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [08:33] in some fashion. [08:34] I've just dh-maked [08:34] updated changelog [08:34] updated control [08:35] However, I'm a bit confused about rules [08:38] Should I uncomment dh_python? [08:38] It is a python application [08:40] which approach to Python Policy does it use? [08:40] No idea [08:40] haha [08:40] I'm packaging this from scratch === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:48] Hmmm [08:48] I think I got it [08:53] Do I need a dirs file? [08:59] not necessarily [09:00] my suggestion since it's a python app is to read the Debian Python Policy. You'll also find the Debian wiki on Python Policy helpful. === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-7-27.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:04] Crimsun: Can you resync the ring? [09:05] I'm not a revu admin. === fowlduck [n=nate@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:11] Do I need a menu file? [09:12] Or can I just let the Makefile install a .desktop file to /usr/share/applications ? [09:12] whatever you want. [09:13] normally if it installs an fd.o-compliant desktop file, that's sufficient [09:15] E: pyneighborhood_0.3-0ubuntu1_source.changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file feisty [09:17] ignore that lintian error. [09:17] ajmitch: ping [09:19] Oh [09:19] Looks like it already was synced [09:19] It uploaded [09:20] "Package includes an .orig.tar.gz file although the debian revision suggests [09:20] that it might not be required. Multiple uploads of the .orig.tar.gz may be [09:20] rejected by the upload queue management software." [09:22] crimsun: When my upload is processes, can you review it for me? :] [09:22] probably not [09:22] honestly, I'm swamped until the end of December [09:23] lol, alright [09:23] I don't see a "recover password" link anywhere [09:24] just enter a null password [09:24] k [09:24] thanks [09:26] I'm going to go make some juice and hopefully my package will have been processed by then :] === mlpug [n=user@a84-231-238-186.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:36] crimsun: I don't see it yet [09:37] are you a member of the universe contributors LP team? [09:38] Yup [09:39] The keyring might not have been synced [09:39] But I thought that it would have been rejected when I tried to upload [09:40] what syntax did you use? [09:47] dput pyneighborhood_0.3-0ubuntu1_source.changes [09:47] that's a silent reject [09:47] default_host_main = ubuntu [09:47] [ubuntu] [09:47] fqdn = upload.ubuntu.com [09:48] you're not in the ubuntu-dev keyring, so your upload was dropped silently [09:48] sorry, a silent failure [09:48] the reject semantics are different [09:48] you need to use dput revu blah [09:50] Ok [09:50] Modified [09:50] set revu to default [09:50] and uploaded === somerville32 will wait another few minutes. [09:50] :) [09:59] Hmmm... [09:59] Still not showing up [10:06] crimsun: I got an e-mail for the reject from Ubuntu [10:06] From it isn't showing up in revu and there is no e-mail [10:06] then wait for the revu keyring to be synced === Zdra [n=zdra@103.21-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:22] somerville32: what does your dput.cf looks like? [10:23] ah, nm [10:23] ! [10:23] "Since Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake)," [10:23] I thought you were trying to upload to the repos [10:23] Does that mean I need to do what it says on that page? [10:24] nvm [10:24] It is already the same :] [10:26] Why isn't the keyring synced automatically? === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:44] We need more MOTU admins :/ === _DvP_ [n=David@2.39.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:46] it isn't synced automativally because it takes quite awhile to run [10:46] due to gpg sucking [10:46] Omgz, you're awake! [10:47] Yeah! :) [10:47] no I'm not [10:47] Doh : ( === somerville32 wishes he could chat on IRC in his sleep. [10:48] Can you resync the keyring for me in your sleep too? :] [10:48] I'm already doing it, before any more people want to bug me about it [10:50] Will you let me know when you're done? :] [10:52] it's still going [10:54] Since anyone can join that team, why not just let everyone upload to revu? [10:55] because we want at least some checks [10:55] ok, it's done [11:00] When I decrypt my password, it says "None" === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feb6fb00-217.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:01] have you uploaded a package & had it appear on revu? [11:02] ajmitch: Do you have a few minute to review an upload on revu ? [11:02] no [11:02] ok [11:02] ajmitch: Well, I'm still waiting [11:02] And it has the GPG stuff there when it didn't have it there before [11:03] if you haven't had a package uploaded & processed on revu, an account is not created [11:03] ok [11:04] I got an error when I tried to upload after sync [11:04] Should I force? [11:04] no [11:04] it won't do any good [11:05] what was the package? [11:05] pyneighborhood_0.3-0ubuntu1 [11:05] try again now, with dput -f [11:06] Successfully uploaded packages. === asabil [n=asabil@ifaedi.insa-lyon.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:13] hi all [11:13] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3614 [11:13] :) [11:17] can someone accpet this package ? [11:17] http://download.gna.org/libg3d/debian/ === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:19] anyone ? === Neonightmare [n=chatzill@67-214.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === aBiNg [n=helo_aBi@221.6.29.75] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee waves [11:43] hello Hobbsee === Admiral_Chicago waves back to Hobbsee [11:43] :) [11:44] Hobbsee: what time is it over there? [11:44] @time sydney [11:44] Current time in Australia/Sydney: December 03 2006, 21:44:45 [11:44] Hobbsee: Error: "time" is not a valid command. [11:45] why is ubuntu-es in here? [11:45] !bot [11:45] I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [11:45] @help [11:45] Hobbsee: (help [] [] ) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. [11:45] oh right, it just triggers with @ [11:45] @time Chicago [11:45] Current time in America/Chicago: December 03 2006, 04:45:43 [11:45] Admiral_Chicago: Error: "time" is not a valid command. [11:46] :\ [11:46] anyways it's almost 5 AM here [11:46] did we ever discover why ubuntu-es is even here? [11:48] i never did [11:48] does anyone know to who he belongs? === tsmithe [n=bip@82-70-109-22.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:48] no, ban it [11:48] how do i go about getting something into universe? [11:49] what? they fixed -motu's bans [11:49] Hobbsee & elkbuntu, i'm considering applying for IRC operator team, any ideas? [11:49] Admiral_Chicago, you dont apply. [11:49] Riddell: sladen and fbond are the only ops. [11:50] and none of them seem to have the power to add more ops? [11:50] Seveas: is that right? [11:50] looks like it [11:50] how does that work then? [11:50] looking at the access/level list [11:50] tsmithe: yes... [11:51] I bet one of them has the password to the channel [11:51] according to https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-irc it says you apply, but does that mean just the LP team? [11:52] If not, we can ask rob to reset the password === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AE12C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:53] Hobbsee, the crapbot is in -locoteams as well [11:54] if you find awake freenode staff, please poke them [11:54] Seveas: well, if we had ops for here, then we could fix it? it seems that not everyone can get ops here now [11:54] anyhoo: how do i go about getting something into universe? [11:54] Hobbsee, freenode staff can get ops everywhere :) [11:54] tsmithe: See the wiki :P [11:54] Seveas: i meant adding people to the access list. but true [11:55] tsmithe: Under MOTU/ [11:55] which wiki? [11:55] ah [11:55] Hobbsee: If they have the password, when they authenticate with chanserv, they are level 50 [11:55] somerville32: they're *staff* - they should be able to override that [11:56] maybe someone can explain the IRC operators thing to me later [11:56] Freenode staff can reset the password, yeah === rob [i=RobertSt@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+b *!*@201.230.101.11] by rob === ubuntu-es was kicked off #ubuntu-motu by rob (rob) [11:58] right... how do go about packaging a python application [11:58] at the moment it's just the one file [11:59] tsmithe: Read the packaging guide :] [11:59] anywhere to point me to with regards to the debian/ directory contents? [11:59] specifically for python? [11:59] or is it not too different? [12:00] Thats what I'm trying to figure out [12:00] haha [12:00] :] === tsmithe wonders about dh_python [12:00] tsmithe: deprecated already :) [12:01] bah [12:01] i've only heard of it [12:01] do i have to use pbuilder? [12:01] tsmithe: there's a new python policy, http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/python-policy/ === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feb6fb00-217.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:01] tsmite: You don't _have_ to [12:01] cool [12:02] ...it's all so bureaucratic [12:03] tsmithe: indeed, but it must be if we want to keep large project like debian and ubuntu tidied [12:03] i understand that [12:04] having only just started learning python yesterday, this is a big step [12:04] level #ubuntu-motu list [12:04] err... mischan [12:04] i think you missed /msg chanserv === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o Riddell] by ChanServ [12:06] isn't there some kind of document somewhere that describes how to write the debian/control file for a python script? [12:07] tsmithe: google for debian python policy [12:07] 11:07 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- An access level of [20] is required for [CLEAR] on #ubuntu-motu [12:08] err, hmm, now how do I get rid of this @ [12:08] /deop Riddell ? [12:08] this @? === mode/#ubuntu-motu [-o Riddell] by Riddell [12:08] rocking [12:08] but it's so long [12:09] well debian/control is just the same for any package, there's just a couple of python specific bits === mr_pouit [n=silk@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-214-84.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tsmithe looks at some examples [12:11] thing is, for python, i don't need to build it, and the source and binary packages would be almost identical, with respect to the program itself (not the packaging stuffs) [12:11] the debian python policy goes on about modules [12:11] mine isn't a module === somerville32 nods. [12:13] well, i'll just do it the same as for any other pacakge [12:13]