[12:01] <levander> Tachoh: are there just type different "types" of kernel packages?  linux-kernel, and linux-image?  I think one is debian packages, the other ubuntu, but I'm not sure
[12:01] <oxyd> kitche: ok.. i just want to have apache, php, mysql, phpmyadmin and a mailserver to work, and what i read its gonna work fine
[12:01] <orian> k
[12:01] <javaJake> mc44, pypanel - lightweight panel/taskbar for X11 window managers
[12:01] <oxyd> without alots of error
[12:01] <Tachoh> unbuntu packages usually have -ubuntu appended to the end
[12:01] <kurisutofuaa> How do I check if my video card supports 3D in ubuntu-Edgyamd64?
[12:01] <javaJake> mc44, it looks like it is supposed to be more of a library for developers.
[12:02] <helltrix> test.
[12:02] <mc44> javaJake: wrong person?
[12:02] <javaJake> mc44, I'm installing it now, just for the record.
[12:02] <javaJake> mc44, sorry
[12:02] <javaJake> maxamillion, pypanel - lightweight panel/taskbar for X11 window managers
[12:02] <Tachoh> you can aptitude show package to see the full name
[12:02] <javaJake> maxamillion,  it looks like it is supposed to be more of a library for developers.
[12:02] <Tachoh> and details
[12:02] <javaJake> maxamillion, I'm installing it now, just for the record.
[12:03] <maxamillion> javaJake: thankies
[12:03] <High_Priest> anyone?
[12:03] <oxyd> huh?
[12:03] <maxamillion> javaJake: i had a friend install it last night on his x86 machine and said it would run ... but it won't on my amd64, only think i could think of is there is an issue with the amd64 package
[12:04] <hume> hi... I have a question relating to the mozilla-mplayer-plugin
[12:04] <javaJake> maxamillion, bash: pypanel: command not found
[12:04] <gleesond> so after rebooting, I got a cpu temperture too high waringing, I'm assuming that there was some kind of run away when trying to load the live cd
[12:04] <javaJake> Hmmm
[12:04] <hume> it seems I have to choose vo=x11 to run some streams there, but from command line they work with xv.... how come?
[12:04] <Eclypse> what are the necessary packages to do make, and make install?
[12:04] <maxamillion> javaJake: and you are on amd64 as well i presume?
[12:04] <javaJake> maxamillion, nope
[12:04] <javaJake> That makes it interesting
[12:05] <Eclypse> I have build essential installed and all that . . .
[12:05] <ompaul> Eclypse, build-essential
[12:05] <maxamillion> javaJake: oh ... that it does
[12:05] <Eclypse> ompaul, arleady have it . . .
[12:05] <oxyd> i need to know if ubuntu server is something to try, or if its crap as server
[12:05] <helltrix> Can anyone help me with this:? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg: Temporary failure resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com'
[12:05] <lale> Hello all
[12:05] <ompaul> Eclypse, ehh some target that work on ubuntu then
[12:05] <lale> A quick OT question
[12:05] <Jaak_> my wifi network works but i have to assign essid myself because it won't find them for me like it did in 6.06, what can i do?
[12:05] <reverseblade> oxyd, it is ubuntu with using less ram, not running X etc
[12:05] <javaJake> helltrix, that generally means you have the wrong address.
[12:06] <oxyd> reverseblade: yeah, i know
[12:06] <kerm1t> helltrix: resolv.conf ?
[12:06] <javaJake> maxamillion, hmm, same exact results here for locate.
[12:06] <ompaul> Eclypse, what is not compiling?
[12:06] <lale> How do you say in technical speak that a problem can be led back to another, known problem?
[12:06] <lale> is there a specific word?
[12:06] <kitche> helltrix: does rest of your internet work?
[12:06] <oxyd> reverseblade: but that was not my question
[12:06] <helltrix> yes
[12:06] <Eclypse> ompaul gaim 2.0 beta 5
[12:06] <helltrix> im on IRC, web browsing, etc.
[12:06] <reverseblade> oxyd, ok
[12:06] <oxyd> i need to now if it run smootly and fine as server
[12:07] <maxamillion> javaJake: strange, it doesn't _really_ matter ... i just read about it somewhere and thought i would try it out ... but i thought it was weird that the package didn't install an executable
[12:07] <kitche> helltrix: then it's probably to do with the dns for that address or soemthign if rest of your net works
[12:07] <helltrix> nameserver 192.168.1.121 is my name server to my routed computer
[12:07] <javaJake> maxamillion, yea, it appears to be a window manager, possibly?
[12:07] <High_Priest> again: my friend here is trying to boot ubuntu 6.10 on compaq laptop.. without success.. after splash and progress bar he gets black screen with blinking cursor and it just stays there.. fail-safe option acts the same.. any ideas?
[12:07] <maxamillion> javaJake: no, its a panel for people who run things like fluxbox, windowmaker, etc.
[12:07] <gleesond> is there any advaced options for the first install screen? maybe to control the run levels
[12:08] <G3N3SIS> want me to reboot strabes?
[12:08] <ompaul> Eclypse, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[12:08] <Raskall> javaJake: my problem was in the nx client. I had to set the keyboard layout in the nx client.
[12:08] <reverseblade> gleesond, what do you require ?
[12:08] <Eclypse> ompaul 6.06
[12:08] <Raskall> javaJake: and then I managed to get xfce running too. :)
[12:09] <Joel-Wideman> How do I set time restrictions on local logins, per user?
[12:09] <ompaul> Eclypse, it appears that the software you want is in the next version up
[12:09] <gleesond> well if I can make the instalation not boot the X server then I could install and hand config the xorg.cong
[12:09] <r00t-fck> hey guys . i have installed eggdrop . and i dont know where is it installed . i use apt-get install eggdrop
[12:09] <reverseblade> Joel-Wideman, such a harsh admin :)
[12:09] <Eclypse> ompaul, that doesn't make any sense.
[12:09] <javaJake> Raskall, Oh, OK.
[12:09] <kurisutofuaa> I just did a fresh install of Edgy amd64. What programs should I download right away?
[12:09] <Joel-Wideman> Yup.
[12:09] <ompaul> !gaim edgy
[12:09] <javaJake> maxamillion, I'd report this as a bug
[12:09] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+beta3.1-1ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 1311 kB, installed size 3712 kB
[12:09] <helltrix> ty
[12:09] <monestis> is ubuntu good enough to run a server for a mid-sized bsns?
[12:09] <ompaul> !gaim fiesty
[12:09] <javaJake> maxamillion, and in the meantime use an official version
[12:09] <helltrix> added 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 and now updates are working.
[12:09] <Eclypse> ompaul, hmm. . . . lame.
[12:10] <gleesond> or if I could see where in the live boot what is failing because as it is right now I cant see what modules are being loaded
[12:10] <ompaul> !gaim feisty
[12:10] <helltrix> windows routing FTL
[12:10] <javaJake> maxamillion, you know, straight from the website.
[12:10] <reverseblade> Joel-Wideman, you have to write a script for that I guess
[12:10] <Joel-Wideman> monestis, absolutely.
[12:10] <Eclypse> ompaul, well if I wasn't on dialup I would have edgy :(....
[12:10] <Seveas> #help
[12:10] <maxamillion> javaJake: yeah, thanks for your help :)
[12:10] <Seveas> 2help
[12:10] <javaJake> ompaul, lol
[12:10] <Seveas> @help
[12:10] <Seveas> ;help
[12:10] <javaJake> rofl
[12:10] <ZeeEyes_> (help [<plugin>]  [<command>] ) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[12:10] <Seveas> mc44, ;)
[12:10] <Joel-Wideman> reverseblade, er? It doesn't have to log them out, just has to keep them from logging in when they should be in bed. (the little buggers)
[12:11] <Seveas> that's what I was looking for, bots
[12:11] <helltrix> kitche: tnx for the help, got it workin :)
[12:11] <rnalexander> Hello, could I bother someone with a question please?
[12:11] <Tachoh> yes
[12:11] <levander> Okay, way back in hoary days I think, I installed linux-686-smp so that my kernel would be kept up-to-date.  Apparently, at some point they decided to stop updating that package, and now my kernel is really old.  It looks like I'm supposed to replace it with either linux-image-gerneic or linux-image-686, someone can tell me which one?
[12:11] <Seveas> !ask | rnalexander
[12:11] <ubotu> rnalexander: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:11] <G3N3SIS> no luck strabes
[12:11] <MannyL> Hi I need some assistance. I have a PC with a SCSI Cd drive , IDE harddrives, no floppy and a nic that doesn't sup[ort network boots. The SCSI controller does not support bootable cd. Would someone help me get Ubuntu installed. It currently runs a dual boot of 2003 server and FreeDos but in Freedos it won't see the CD drive. I did copy the contents of the iso into the root of FreeDos's C
[12:11] <Tachoh> levander: any of those
[12:11] <SuperQ> levander: just install linux-generic
[12:11] <reverseblade> Joel-Wideman, just shutdown the electricity , lol
[12:12] <levander> Tachoh: SuperQ: will the kernels that get installed from those support SMP?
[12:12] <SuperQ> levander: it will include all the deps for image and other things
[12:12] <javaJake> levander, install generic
[12:12] <SuperQ> levander: generic is smp now
[12:12] <rnalexander> Thank you, I'm using remote desktop sharing on a Dapper Desktop install, I'm attempt to control it from my mac using Chicken of the VNC, but the response time is very slow.  I'm on a subnet, but my mac is on wireless.  How do I configure my Dapper box to use connection compression even when it's on a local subnet?
[12:12] <javaJake> SuperQ, smp?
[12:12] <SuperQ> levander: and replaces 686/386
[12:12] <monestis>  Is it true that you can destroy your drive if you overburn a cd/dvd?
[12:12] <Tachoh> levander: what he said :)
[12:12] <levander> okay, thanks guys, think i'll install linux-image-generic
[12:12] <Seveas> monestis, yes
[12:12] <SuperQ> javaJake: yes, generic is smp now
[12:12] <SuperQ> (the feature, not the package name)
[12:12] <SuperQ> heh
[12:13] <javaJake> SuperQ, no no, what does smp mean?
[12:13] <Joel-Wideman> Heck, I could just pull the plug out of the wall and walk away with it, but I want something that works like /etc/security/time.conf
[12:13] <orian> mc44 sorry took some time but it's there
[12:13] <SuperQ> javaJake: multi-cpu
[12:13] <hou5ton> How can I make the Win key on this laptop open up Synaptic?
[12:13] <superchode> so.. after a lot of time spent making amd64 ubuntu install and fixing it up.. i plugged in another SATA hard drive and i've lost the ability to boot
[12:13] <javaJake> SuperQ, Oh, OK
[12:13] <G3N3SIS> strabes??
[12:13] <Seveas> %help
[12:13] <ubotu> (help [<plugin>]  [<command>] ) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[12:13] <Seveas> :hel
[12:13] <SuperQ> javaJake: for dual core etc
[12:13] <mc44> orian: whats the link?
[12:13] <Seveas> :help
[12:13] <Tachoh> smp = multi processors
[12:13] <Joel-Wideman> I was surprised that didn't do it, actually.
[12:13] <Seveas> $help
[12:13] <javaJake> %help
[12:13] <ubotu> (help [<plugin>]  [<command>] ) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[12:13] <levander> it ticks me off they stopped updateing linux-image-686-smp without making it clear somehow, i've been fighting this damn edgy upgrade for days, and it looks like this is the reason it failed
[12:13] <javaJake> It works!
[12:13] <Seveas> ^help
[12:13] <carlfk> MannyL, when you say "nic dosn't support" have you seen the boot floppy that loads what is normaly in a PXE boot rom?
[12:13] <Klee_> hallo again :)
[12:13] <levander> ubuntu devs are better than this, no idea why they screwed it up
[12:13] <javaJake> Seveas, how many help things do you need?
[12:13] <Seveas> javaJake, I'm just hunting for bots
[12:13] <superchode> it seemed reasonable to me that i could just plug in another hard drive and it would work.. was that unreasonable? how do i fix this?
[12:13] <kitche> javaJake: he's searching for bots which is always fun :)
[12:13] <Tachoh> levander: :)
[12:13] <ompaul> javaJake, he is looking for unauthorised bots
[12:14] <javaJake> levander, same happened to me, but no one is perfect.
[12:14] <SuperQ> levander: yea.. that's slightly anoying
[12:14] <MannyL> Hmm got booted
[12:14] <javaJake> Oh, I see.
[12:14] <carlfk> MannyL,  http://rom-o-matic.net
[12:14] <mc44> Seveas: hmm pastebin nl doesnt do recent entries links?
[12:14] <levander> javaJake: how did you fix it?  it's kind of long for quick irc chat to say what i'm doing right now
[12:14] <orian> 35130
[12:14] <Seveas> mc44, correct, too much spam
[12:14] <mc44> Seveas: aha!
[12:14] <Tachoh> Klee_: find :)
[12:15] <Klee_> :)
[12:15] <Klee_> argh
[12:15] <levander> javaJake: the same thing with the linux-image-686-smp package happened to you?
[12:15] <MannyL> carlfk how would I get that image into the system there is no floppy drive
[12:15] <Tachoh> find / | grep "search term" :P
[12:15] <ompaul> !test
[12:15] <ubotu> Failed.
[12:15] <carlfk> MannyL,   ouch.  good q
[12:15] <Klee_> oh thanks
[12:15] <rnalexander> Did I phrase the question wrong?
[12:15] <javaJake> levander, no, different package. Confused the heck out of me.
[12:15] <levander> javaJake: what package?
[12:15] <carlfk> MannyL, does it boot any linux right now?
[12:15] <javaJake> Especially choosing between 686 and generic. :P
[12:16] <javaJake> levander, generic
[12:16] <dv5237> how can i disable needing to fill in my password after i close the lid of my notebook?
[12:16] <javaJake> levander, that does all processors.
[12:16] <MannyL> carlfk no just 2003 server and FreeDOS. To install FreeDos I had to put a 16 gig IDE drive in and use VMServer then mount the physical drive
[12:16] <Joel-Wideman> I'm going to split.
[12:16] <levander> javaJake: okay, thanks, i'm praying this kernel upgrade works, i've modified /etc/fstab and grub's menu.lst to boot a "mostly" upgraded to edgy system
[12:16] <rnalexander> Can anyone tell me how to set up connection compression on the remote desktop sharing on a Dapper Desktop install?
[12:16] <levander> i'm gonna go get a smoke before I try this kernel upgrade
[12:16] <javaJake> levander, lol.
[12:17] <Tachoh> levander: have two :)
[12:17] <dv5237> i know its possible i have seen it somewhere but after my clean install i cant remember where :/
[12:17] <G3N3SIS> Is anyone here, experienced with sound in Ubuntu?
[12:17] <SuperQ> dv5237: System: Preferences: Screen Saver
[12:17] <MannyL> carlfk can I use loadlin from FreeDos to somehow kickstart the install?
[12:17] <javaJake> Tachoh, no kidding. :|
[12:17] <G3N3SIS> After 2 hours, I still can't configure it.
[12:17] <javaJake> levander, seriously? You do know that's bad for you.
[12:17] <Tachoh> lol
[12:17] <javaJake> Right?
[12:17] <dv5237> SuperQ: nope. not option there
[12:17] <javaJake> :P
[12:17] <superchode> G3N3SIS: i spent a considerable amount of time getting it working yesterday
[12:17] <carlfk> MannyL, maybe.  I just discovered kexec, which loads and runs kernels from a booted linux
[12:18] <SuperQ> dv5237: "Lock Screen when screensaver is active" ?
[12:18] <javaJake> dv5237, In System -> Preferences -> Screensaver.
[12:18] <SuperQ> dv5237: closing the lid activates the screensaver
[12:18] <ColonelPanic001> Hi. I'm running Kubuntu Edgy, and my SD card read (USB) runs great, apps auto-mount it and everything, except that it's read only, despite me having full permissions. Any ideas?
[12:18] <orain> mc44 I'm on irc using the same pc it should be a little easier the link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35130/
[12:19] <G3N3SIS> superchode can you join a channel with me?
[12:19] <carlfk> MannyL, which lets me wget the netboot kernel/initrd and run it, which starts the installer (it just takes over the system)
[12:19] <dv5237> SuperQ: so i should turn of my screensaver completly?
[12:19] <G3N3SIS> I dunno #Ubuntusound?
[12:19] <G3N3SIS> without the questionmark
[12:19] <javaJake> dv5237, well, there's this as well: System -> Preferences -> Power Options. "Blank Screen" option for "When lid is closed" will lock your screen.
[12:19] <SuperQ> dv5237: no.. you just need to uncheck lock when activated
[12:19] <malco> hey I have totally fragged my xorg.conf file (I think) while trying to install nvidia graphics card.  For some reason the backup isn't there either.  How do I get it back to what it was before
[12:19] <mc44> orain: hmm nothing is muted, which I though t it might have been
[12:19] <dv5237> SuperQ: that option issnt there.. what release do you run?
[12:19] <carlfk> MannyL, give me a sec... I'll dig up the URL's I used.  worth a shot
[12:19] <rnalexander> Have I been muted or something?  Is my question somehow rude and I don't know it?
[12:19] <SuperQ> dv5237: oh.. i'm on edgy right now
[12:19] <MannyL> carlfk kexec sounds great to me but I need something that runs under 2003 or Dos
[12:19] <javaJake> dv5237, what release are you running, more to the point. :)
[12:19] <dv5237> javaJake: yeah but thats gonna take alot of my battery power
[12:19] <mc44> orain: does "lsmod | grep hda" show anything?
[12:19] <SuperQ> javaJake: heh
[12:20] <kitche> malco: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:20] <dv5237> javaJake: Dapper
[12:20] <orain> I've been working on this for days but can
[12:20] <G3N3SIS> superchode?
[12:20] <carlfk> MannyL, you mentioned loadlin... may be the same thing as kexec
[12:20] <orain> t find a solution
[12:20] <javaJake> dv5237, blanking your screen does? :s
[12:20] <javaJake> orain, what are you working on?
[12:20] <SuperQ> dv5237: your laptop hardware will probably force-blank the screen when you close
[12:20] <orain> sound has stopped working
[12:20] <rnalexander> Ping?
[12:20] <Tachoh> anyway, see you later peeps
[12:20] <superchode> G3N3SIS: i sent you a msg
[12:20] <ColonelPanic001> Pong
[12:20] <ColonelPanic001> :P
[12:20] <malco> thanks kitche
[12:20] <javaJake> orain, oh, OK, I'm no help there. :P
[12:20] <orain> thinkpad x60 with edgy
[12:20] <malco> q
[12:21] <eloquence_> dv5237: sorry if i am late but is your nick corresponding to an hp laptop?
[12:21] <SuperQ> ColonelPanic001: hrm.. let me try an SD in my laptop
[12:21] <carlfk> MannyL, find me a URL describing loadlin - I am interested.  pm it to me if you can - I am switching to another box for a min or 2
[12:21] <javaJake> dv5237, huh, really. Dapper...
[12:21] <javaJake> dv5237, hmm...
[12:21] <javaJake> dv5237, two seconds...
[12:21] <rnalexander> Ok, so my questions are showing up...  am I asking them the wrong way?
[12:21] <Jaak_> are there any extra wifi tools?
[12:21] <ColonelPanic001> SuperQ: thanks. It's odd, because really, it works great. Just can't write/delete/etc
[12:21] <dv5237> SuperQ: yeah it worked :)
[12:21] <dv5237> eloquence_: yeah it does
[12:21] <nickfish03> trying to boot ubuntu live cd onto a old g3 indigo iMac, 233 MHz (Machine speed), booting goes fine until right after loading bar finishes, in begining it comes up with "yaboot 1.13.1" or something like that, it then goes to Ubuntu logo and starts to bounce a bar back and forth, then it will load one bar, after bar finishes, i come up with a  black screen with white cursor on it, i can type into it, but i haven't entered anything,
[12:21] <rnalexander> please could someone even just point me to the config file for the remote desktop server in dapper?
[12:21] <eloquence_> leet
[12:21] <ColonelPanic001> Malexander: it's a busy channel. Usually if someone doesn't know the answer, they just don't say anything. prevents traffic
[12:22] <dv5237> i just needed to disable blanking screen whitin ubuntu
[12:22] <javaJake> rnalexander, you mean VNC server?
[12:22] <rnalexander> Is it using VNC?  'cause I searched for it and couldn't find a VNC.conf file.
[12:22] <javaJake> rnalexander, yea, it is...
[12:22] <eloquence_> dv5237: i am running kubuntu on a dv8000t ... how's the lappie on linux working out for u? or is it originally made for linux?
[12:22] <SuperQ> ColonelPanic001: I just put my SD card from my cell phone into my Thinkpad's internal SD slot
[12:22] <javaJake> rnalexander, your client _should_ let you choose that...
[12:22] <SuperQ> ColonelPanic001: and was able to write no issue
[12:22] <rnalexander> Chicken of the VNC doesn't...
[12:22] <ColonelPanic001> SuperQ: Well, then, give my your laptop, Mr. "Works for me!"
[12:22] <ColonelPanic001> ;)
[12:23] <dv5237> eloquence_: no i bought it whit xp on it
[12:23] <rnalexander> I'm on OSX.  Is there another client anyone would recommend?
[12:23] <Fireal> anyone have a tip on how to get the OS-L-IconSet?
[12:23] <dv5237> eloquence_: i works find though no problem so far :)
[12:23] <levander> It doesn't look like installing linux-image-generic is going to uninstall linux-image-686-smp.  Is that something to worry about?
[12:23] <eloquence_> cool ... running ubuntu dapper?
[12:23] <G3N3SIS> oh superchode, i can't send messages back.
[12:23] <G3N3SIS> can you join my channel ubuntusound?
[12:23] <SuperQ> ColonelPanic001: haha
[12:23] <eloquence_> u got the regular dial up modem to work?
[12:23] <SuperQ> ColonelPanic001: just to verify, the photo I copied to the SD card shows up when I put it back in my phone
[12:23] <javaJake> rnalexander, I have no experience with Macs unfortunately.
[12:23] <dv5237> eloquence_: cant install edgy though but i think dapper is more stable anyway so ill keep running dapper untill feasty comes
[12:24] <ColonelPanic001> SuperQ: Joking aside, any ideas, maybe? I don't know crap about USB device handling or whatnot, let alone about this in particular
[12:24] <SuperQ> ColonelPanic001: best thing you can do is open a terminal and look at the output of dmesg
[12:24] <eloquence_> cool i eam running dapper too i had ubuntu but now switched to kubuntu to see how it works
[12:24] <orain> javajake: I had my sound working with edgy on a thinkpad x60, but it stopped after two days. It still works in windows.
[12:24] <eloquence_> what kind of wireless lan card do u have?
[12:24] <gleesond> so it appears that it locks up as soon as the live cd trys to load gnome
[12:25] <SuperQ> ColonelPanic001: or if you don't know what to look for, do this from a terminal
[12:25] <javaJake> orain, yea, I don't know. I would google different combinations of stuff.
[12:25] <SuperQ> ColonelPanic001: dmesg > ColonelPanic001.txt
[12:25] <ColonelPanic001> SuperQ: Just did that, getting a filesystem panic. Mind if I PM a few lines to you?
[12:25] <SuperQ> ColonelPanic001: and mail it to superq@gmail.com
[12:25] <javaJake> orain, I'd also google the sound card's model itself.
[12:25] <ColonelPanic001> Or that. heh
[12:25] <dv5237> eloquence_:  802.11g im not sure about the rest.. its a intergrated one
[12:26] <ColonelPanic001> SuperQ: pastebin'ing it. Soon as this site actually does something...
[12:26] <SuperQ> oh.. hehe
[12:26] <eloquence_> dv5237: oh so u didn't install the intel drivers then
[12:27] <SuperQ> i forget about pastebin
[12:27] <javaJake> orain, I'm hearing a lot about Vine, a VNC Server...
[12:27] <javaJake> orain, nvm... forgot...
[12:27] <javaJake> orain, looking for client. :P
[12:27] <dv5237> eloquence_: nope just the one for vga are there anymore?
[12:27] <ColonelPanic001> SuperQ: http://paste-bin.com/1696
[12:27] <orain> thanks
[12:27] <rnalexander> thanks folks, I'll see what I can dig up.
[12:27] <Raskall> ahh.. nice. I am running an nx desktop over UMTS now. and it runs fast and smooth
[12:27] <eloquence_> umm
[12:27] <MannyL> Carlfk not sure if this java clients supports /msg but I did /msg you
[12:27] <eloquence_> i dunno i wanted to find something for my HDA audio
[12:28] <eloquence_> but dunno
[12:28] <eloquence_> what did u use for vga?
[12:28] <javaJake> orain, hmm... I'd google "osx vnc client"... pulls up a lot of stuff. But according to what I know the client is responsible for saying "yea, I want this and that compressed".
[12:28] <dv5237> eloquence_: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 and you?
[12:29] <orain> vine is for mac isn't it?
[12:29] <eloquence_> oh
[12:29] <javaJake> orain, Yea, which is why I basically said nvm. :P
[12:29] <carlfk> MannyL:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[12:29] <eloquence_> nvidia geforce
[12:29] <orain> sorry
[12:29] <tritio> Venezuela has  #ubuntu-ve
[12:29] <javaJake> orain, np... misunderstandings happen a lot. :)
[12:30] <carlfk> MannyL, no msg here.  may be because one of us (like me) isn't registered
[12:30] <DBO> anyone have any experience with connecting ubuntu to an Airport Router?
[12:30] <Spee_Der> !zope
[12:30] <MannyL> Carlfk I'm not registered either
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zope - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <javaJake> carlfk, yea, you aren't allowed to msg without registering.
[12:30] <ompaul> !register
[12:30] <eloquence_> i wish kubuntu would read my sd ram 5in1 card reader
[12:30] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:30] <levander> What is the difference between the linux and linux-image packages?
[12:30] <code-Rat> Hi, I run pppoeconf twice, so if I run ifoncif I get two "adapters" ppp0 and ppp1, how do I delete the second one?
[12:30] <eloquence_> or whatever u call it
[12:30] <carlfk> javaJake, can I get a msg if I am not registered ?
[12:30] <orain> I have to say I'm know to ubuntu and  I love it, but it will be even better when I get everything working
[12:30] <javaJake> carlfk, I don't know..
[12:31] <javaJake> carlfk, I'd register all the same. :)
[12:31] <ompaul> carlfk, you can
[12:31] <carlfk> MannyL, check out the bottem of that page - I just added the wget commands for where you can get the installer.  see if that works with loadlin
[12:31] <levander> carlfk: no you can't, register, "/msg Nick
[12:31] <javaJake> orain, yep, I can agree.
[12:31] <carlfk> ompaul, thanks
[12:31] <dv5237> eloquence_: hm i dont really use it so im not sure if it works heres
[12:31] <levander> carlfk: "/msg NickServ HELP"
[12:31] <javaJake> orain, compiling radeon drivers now to get 3D working. *Sigh*
[12:31] <max_> Where can I download themes for Gnome?
[12:31] <ompaul> carlfk, 2 minutes here: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration and your done
[12:32] <orain> good luck and thanks for the help
[12:32] <javaJake> carlfk, to register, just type in "/msg nickserv register <password>"
[12:32] <javaJake> Simple
[12:32] <javaJake> Right everyone else? :P
[12:32] <kbrooks> javaJake: wrong
[12:33] <carlfk> actually, I just need to ident or something.  wich I don't need to do, cuz I don't want to msg anyone right now :)
[12:33] <MannyL> carlfk can you E-mail me the address of that app to emanuel.levy@gmail.com I'm going to try to install dsl-linux then use that app to bet ubuntu up
[12:33] <javaJake> kbrooks, no way!....
[12:33] <carlfk> MannyL, or anyone - what is the URL lor Loadlin?
[12:33] <javaJake> kbrooks, no, that's right
[12:33] <carlfk> MannyL, not now - my main box is running memcheck
[12:34] <Plouj> Hi. so, I got this pcmcia wna-2330 dlink adapter. I plugged it into my ubuntu laptop and ifconfig shows two devices, wifi0 and ath0. Which one should I be configuring? I'm trying to configure the device by following this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202834&highlight=WNA-2330
[12:34] <ompaul> kbrooks, you are incorrect
[12:34] <carlfk> MannyL, how will you install dsl?
[12:36] <cpk1> Plouj: you should probably configure the one that isnt in ifconfig when the pcmcia isnt plugged in =P
[12:36] <MannyL> carl I can use vmwar to install it to the drive that FreeDOS is on.
[12:36] <nickfish03> i have screen troubles on my g3, for booting option should i use, boot: live video=ofonly or should i use boot: live-powerpc   ??
[12:36] <nickfish03> the screen goes black
[12:36] <Plouj> cpk1: why would I want to do that? I need to use the pcmcia card.
[12:37] <javaJake> Yay, it's quieter now!
[12:37] <cpk1> Plouj: you said you wanted to know which one to configure, to figure out which interface is the pcmcia one, take it out, the one that dissapears is the pcmcia interface, now you know which one to configure
[12:37] <ortega10> i installed the newest version of avidemux from the getdeb website, but update-manager keeps nagging me about an older update (from edgy), no matter how many times i select "force version" or "lock version" in synaptic... what can i do?
[12:37] <Plouj> cpk1: oh, ok
[12:38] <Plouj> cpk1: I see what you mean now ;)
[12:38] <gleesond> does anyone know how to make the live cd boot to a cmd propt before loading gnome? I need this to fix the xorg.conf before it locks up
[12:38] <MannyL> I know I should get an IDE cd drive but I don't want to spend more money on this one system.
[12:38] <javaJake> ortega10, unfortunately I don't think you can do anything.
[12:39] <javaJake> gleesond, yes, when you see the "3, 2, 1" countdown on startup, hit ESC, and choose recovery mode.
[12:39] <cpk1> ortega10: you didnt install the newest from a repo?
[12:39] <ortega10> javaJake: but why doesn't the "lock version" option stay checked in synaptic?
[12:39] <javaJake> Once you are done, type "exit" to continue with startup.
[12:39] <javaJake> ortega10, no clue... try installing this older version and see what happens. If it starts downloading, cancel it.
[12:40] <ortega10> cpk1: i did, and then i installed a newer deb
[12:40] <porkpie> guy's what is the package name of spamcop
[12:40] <javaJake> ortega10, what are the two versions?
[12:40] <Plouj> now, it looks like that both ath0 and wifi0 are _only_ present when my pcmcia card is plugged in
[12:40] <cpk1> ortega10: try using aptitude hold avidemux
[12:40] <gleesond> javaJake: I never see a "1 2 3" count down with this live disk
[12:40] <javaJake> gleesond, right right
[12:41] <javaJake> gleesond, when you get in the live cd, you should see something like "F6 Other Options".
[12:41] <gleesond> yeah I can get that
[12:41] <javaJake> gleesond, when you get that, erase the "--" and "quiet" and "splash" and type in "single".
[12:41] <ortega10> cpk1: didn't seem to change anything
[12:41] <gleesond> ok will try
[12:42] <javaJake> gleesond, then punch enter. Basically, you manually told the livecd to run recovery mode.
[12:42] <ortega10> javaJake: i got 2.3.0.1-getdeb1 and it tries to install 2.1.2.0-ubuntu
[12:42] <cpk1> ortega10: is avidemux the name of the package?
[12:42] <jared> hi
[12:42] <ortega10> javaJake: it's weird cause my version is newer
[12:42] <javaJake> porkpie, is this it? "hinfo - Check address ownership and DNSBL listings for spam reporting"
[12:42] <ortega10> cpk1: yep
[12:43] <javaJake> ortega10, wow, yea... report this as a bug!
[12:43] <cpk1> try aptitude update now and see if it still wants to update it
[12:43] <javaJake> ortega10, cpk1, good idea
[12:43] <kitche> ortega10: it probably because you used a non-ubuntu .deb
[12:43] <nickfish03> when i try to boot off of a live cd (im on a g3 imac) i get past the loading bar, then i am at a blinking cursor, that is when my screen goes into "sleep mode" and wont wake up, any help?
[12:43] <javaJake> kitche, but shouldn't it be able to recognize that?
[12:44] <ortega10> kitche: i do that often, and i don't have this problem with other packages
[12:44] <jared> hi
[12:44] <jbinder> hi
[12:44] <jbinder> ??
[12:44] <javaJake> hi
[12:44] <jbinder> WTF
[12:44] <javaJake> :D
[12:44] <jbinder> uh
[12:44] <jbinder> i am so confused
[12:44] <G3N3SIS> guys new error message.
[12:44] <G3N3SIS> in XMMS
[12:45] <ompaul> !test
[12:45] <ubotu> Failed.
[12:45] <javaJake> lol
[12:45] <jbinder> is #ubuntu@irc.ubuntu.com and #ubuntu@irc.freenode.net the same thing?
[12:45] <cpk1> ortega10: you probably shouldnt have tried to install it over the previous aptitude install but thats ok
[12:45] <ompaul> jbinder, I hope so :)
[12:45] <jbinder> lol
[12:45] <G3N3SIS> it says couldn't open :  Please check that your soundcard is configured properly, you have the correct plugin selected, and no other program is blocking your soundcard.
[12:45] <jbinder> jared = me too
[12:45] <G3N3SIS> How do I check those?
[12:46] <kitche> G3N3SIS: you using gnome?
[12:46] <gleesond> So now I have a root prompt on the live disk I tryed to change the driver in xorg.conf to fglrx and run startx but it tells me there was an error
[12:47] <G3N3SIS> Yeah kitche
[12:47] <gleesond> fglrx does not exist on the livecd
[12:47] <gleesond> not sure what plan of attack to take from here
[12:47] <G3N3SIS> kitche?
[12:48] <princemackenzie> gleesond, i believe you can still apt-get it from the livecd
[12:48] <kitche> G3N3SIS: it's probably due to esd taking your sound or you might have another app running that is using it
[12:48] <javaJake> gleesond, alright, try apt-getting the fglrx driver
[12:48] <gleesond> ok, cool
[12:48] <javaJake> sudo apt-get install fglrx-driver possibly?
[12:48] <javaJake> I've never dealt with it before...
[12:48] <G3N3SIS> what's esd and what other app might be running it?
[12:48] <gleesond> well its already in root
[12:49] <javaJake> gleesond, oh, ok
[12:49] <javaJake> oh, so you ran X manually?
[12:49] <javaJake> Interestin'. Not a bad idea
[12:49] <kitche> G3N3SIS: esd is enlightenment sound daemon it's what gnome uses sorta like arts for kde
[12:49] <javaJake> Though X'll complain later. :)
[12:49] <spx2> hello ?
[12:49] <javaJake> spx2, hey
[12:49] <spx2> i need some help with xorg.conf
[12:49] <spx2> javajake can you help please ?
[12:49] <javaJake> spx2, ok, whatcha need?
[12:49] <G3N3SIS> how would I make sure that nothing is using it?
[12:50] <orain> javaJake:  I ran the command (head /proc/asound/card0/codec#0) and presto --sound works. I think i have a ghost in my notebook, because that is just to weird.
[12:50] <spx2> javajake well i'm trying to set up my usb mouse
[12:50] <javaJake> spx2, mmK
[12:50] <spx2> javajake the problem is that i have to set an option Protocol in xorg.conf
[12:50] <javaJake> orain, lol
[12:50] <javaJake> spx2, OK
[12:50] <spx2> javajake and i don't know what should i set it to for usb
[12:51] <javaJake> spx2, oh, I see
[12:51] <spx2> javajake i can tell you what value it has for ps/2
[12:51] <G3N3SIS> ??
[12:51] <javaJake> Um, how do I search for text within man?
[12:51] <mc44> orain: wo!
[12:51] <mc44> *woo
[12:51] <spx2> javajake with "/"
[12:51] <spx2> javajake i searched alredy
[12:51] <carlfk> MannyL, i never got a reply to: how can you install dsl on a box with no boot devices?
[12:51] <orain> mc44 any idea why that worked
[12:51] <javaJake> spx2, thanks, OK, lol
[12:52] <spx2> javajake found nothing
[12:52] <javaJake> Really???
[12:52] <G3N3SIS> kitche?
[12:52] <javaJake> spx2, where are you punching in this option?
[12:52] <mc44> orain: it really should have, so no
[12:52] <spx2> javajake yes javajake,i tried to solve the problem on my own,i've seen that i am not able and now i came here
[12:52] <javaJake> spx2, what driver are you using?
[12:52] <spx2> javajake just a second
[12:52] <mc44> orain: shouldn't have I mean
[12:52] <javaJake> spx2, no problem
[12:52] <ompaul> spx2, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org   <-- that should do to the job for you
[12:53] <javaJake> ompaul, hmm, if, that is, it was already configured, but his mouse wasn't.
[12:53] <javaJake> ompaul, also, you throw the user through tons of questions doing that.
[12:53] <G3N3SIS> Somebody help me?
[12:53] <ompaul> spx2, usb should be automagic - try plugging it into another socket
[12:53] <gleesond> w00t, gnome is booting!
[12:53] <javaJake> gleesond, yes!
[12:54] <spx2> ompaul that is just written in the comment at the start of xorg.conf,i tried that already,it actually took me back to vesa video driver as i already had autodetected ati radeon and it left my mouse the way it was,so nothing good happened
[12:54] <javaJake> gleesond, don't get too happy! edgy'll dash your hopes in a moment.
[12:54] <gleesond> heh
[12:54] <kitche> G3N3SIS: well what applicatins did/have open
[12:54] <spx2> javajake search for /dev/input/mice in xorg.conf and you will see the area where the option Protocol must be set
[12:54] <javaJake> spx2, ok
[12:55] <gleesond> javaJake: where is the install script on the live cd?
[12:55] <G3N3SIS> I have GAIM firefox
[12:55] <G3N3SIS> terminal
[12:55] <javaJake> gleesond, lol, why?
[12:55] <MannyL> Hmm this may work.
[12:55] <G3N3SIS> file browser and xmms
[12:55] <javaJake> gleesond, you should be able to install straight from gnome
[12:55] <gleesond> I can't find it
[12:55] <kitche> G3N3SIS: firefox can use your sound and gaim can also
[12:55] <spx2> javajake currently for me it is "ExplorerPS/2" wich practically makes absolutely no sense because i have an usb mouse(altough it works(the mouse)for 10-20seconds after that it freezes and only my pad is available to me for replacing the mouse function)
[12:55] <usr13> What is the command you use after making changes to sources.list ?
[12:55] <G3N3SIS> I'm talking to you thru gaim though.
[12:55] <orain> Thanks javaJake and mc44. Im going to reboot and see what happens. It's interesting that the sound is quite distorted.
[12:56] <usr13> apt-get update?  Or?
[12:56] <mwe> display icon.jpg says 'display: unable to load font `-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1'. Anyone know what package I need to install?
[12:56] <rc-1> hmm the system, quit menu isnt showing up is there a command to reboot?
[12:56] <bruenig> usr13, you just open it up and add stuff to it
[12:56] <javaJake> spx2, the wierd thing is I have a usb mouse and it works alongside my pad.
[12:56] <bruenig> usr13, oh after, yeah sudo apt-get update
[12:56] <orain> brb
[12:56] <kitche> G3N3SIS: well you can turn sound off in gaim
[12:56] <G3N3SIS> See, Kitche, at the top right of my screen it says I am missing GStreamer plugins and/or Devices
[12:56] <ompaul> spx2, I run several boxes of various versions of xorg and usb mice don't seem to mind as long as they are the right type  >>  /dev/input/mice ; and   protocol of "ExplorerPS/2 << this does both usb and
[12:56] <javaJake> gleesond, I recommend typing Ctrl+Alt+F1, killing gnome, and typing exit.
[12:56] <G3N3SIS> I installed the plugins
[12:56] <jbinder> gtg
[12:56] <jbinder> bye
[12:56] <usr13> ok tnx
[12:56] <javaJake> spx2, what mouse is it?
[12:56] <G3N3SIS> and I can verify my device is there.
[12:56] <ompaul> spx2, and I change mice on the fly
[12:56] <G3N3SIS> lspci -v says it is.
[12:56] <woro2006> hey
[12:57] <G3N3SIS> k turned off gaim sounds
[12:57] <woro2006> after doing aptitude purge sendmail, /etc/init.d/networking restart still contains sendmail messages
[12:57] <spx2> javajake it's just an ordinary usb mouse
[12:57] <rc-1> javaJake, did you mean that to me?
[12:57] <woro2006> it says reload sendmail or something
[12:57] <nickfish03> can someone please help with some sreen problems
[12:57] <nickfish03> *screen
[12:57] <woro2006> where do i find the sendmail script
[12:57] <javaJake> rc-1, no
[12:57] <spx2> ompaul well my mouse freezes after 10-20 seconds of use,what can i do ?
[12:57] <princemackenzie> nickfish03, whats wrong
[12:57] <spx2> ompaul can i try another driver or smth ?
[12:57] <javaJake> rc-1, there is a command.
[12:57] <woro2006> /etc/network/ifup.d/ ??
[12:57] <rc-1> javaJake, sorry :( what is it?
[12:58] <gleesond> javaJake++ that was the ticket
[12:58] <javaJake> rc-1, goto Ctrl+Alt+F1, and type "sudo reboot" for reboot
[12:58] <rc-1> thanks
[12:58] <javaJake> gleesond, alright!
[12:58] <javaJake> rc-1, np
[12:58] <javaJake> gleesond, I TOLD you X would complain. :D
[12:58] <G3N3SIS> i've been here lookiong for help for 2 hours.
[12:58] <ompaul> spx2, I would try a different mouse first the driver seems to work for almost everyone else, you might consider this, moving it to another usb port
[12:58] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, yea, that happens
[12:58] <G3N3SIS> Some help would be of great appreciation.
[12:58] <G3N3SIS> More than 2 hours, almost 4, lost track of time sorry.
[12:59] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, I know it sounds, well, hack-ish, but try killing different processes that you might've run.
[12:59] <cheeseboy> help w/ what?
[12:59] <gleesond> heh
[12:59] <G3N3SIS> like what processes?
[12:59] <spx2> ompaul i have seen posts on ubuntuforums.blah on the net with the same problem so i think i am not the only one
[12:59] <Willacuz> Hey ther
[12:59] <DrNick_> does anyone else have any problems connecting to DALnet with Xchat on ubuntu?
[12:59] <nickfish03> prince: i get past loading bar and screen goes black and will not turn on
[12:59] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, well, firefox (flash), gaim, etc.
[12:59] <eyalw> hi
[12:59] <Elda> I am curious, would it caused any problems if I had gnome and kde installed?
[12:59] <nickfish03> prince: i hear the ubuntu sound while it is still black
[12:59] <Elda> *cause
[12:59] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, anything that might use sound but isn't important.
[12:59] <Willacuz> Volume question:    How can I set my keyboards volume control to control the PCM channel instead of MASTER ?
[12:59] <kitche> Elda: no it won't cause problems
[12:59] <G3N3SIS> I can't close gaim, but I turned it's sounds off.
[01:00] <G3N3SIS> I do hear my computer beeping if I try backspacing in terminal when there is nothing to backspace.
[01:00] <eyalw> i have a question, i cannot resize windows in ubuntu, anyone got an idea?
[01:00] <ompaul> spx2, did you move the mouse from one usb port to another?
[01:00] <G3N3SIS> Closed firefox as well.
[01:00] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, you ARE using esd, right?
[01:00] <G3N3SIS> what is it?
[01:00] <G3N3SIS> How would I know if I am?
[01:00] <Seilo>  hi guys
[01:00] <Seilo>  i need help
[01:00] <Seilo>  with bazaar
[01:00] <spx2> ompaul please wait 3minutes while i try that,i will be back as soon as i can with a conclusion
[01:00] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, erm, well, System -> Preferences -> Sound would tell you
[01:00] <mwe> what do I need to install to get the helvetica font? imagemagick complains about missing helvetica font.
[01:01] <eyalw> help? i cannot resize windows in ubuntu, anyone got an idea?
[01:01] <princemackenzie> !msttfcorefonts
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msttfcorefonts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <javaJake> eyalw, say what???
[01:01] <G3N3SIS> would it say ESD anywhere?
[01:01] <ompaul> spx2, I have work to do here see if I am available
[01:01] <Elda> eyalw : Are you running Beryl by chance?
[01:01] <javaJake> princemackenzie, automatix (please don't flame me) will do this.
[01:01] <eyalw> Elda: yes
[01:01] <princemackenzie> mwe, there is a font package whose name escapes me
[01:01] <DrNick_> has anyone else had problems connecting to DALnet in Xchat? strangely ever since using Ubuntu I can't connect.
[01:01] <Elda> If so you have to enable the resize plugin
[01:01] <ArrenLex> !msttcorefonts | princemackenzie
[01:01] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[01:01] <Elda> eyalw : Okey, just activate the resize plugin.  I had the same question yesterday ^.^
[01:02] <eyalw> Elda: how can i do that?
[01:02] <princemackenzie> !msttcorefonts | mwe
[01:02] <Elda> Hold on a second
[01:02] <bruenig> how do I close a man page
[01:02] <ArrenLex> bruenig: q
[01:02] <eyalw> Elda: in the preferense?
[01:02] <bruenig> I was ctrl + q
[01:02] <mwe> princemackenzie: I have that one. I don't think imagemagick is using it
[01:02] <G3N3SIS> Javajake, I have sound preferences there.  If I try hitting the play next to some, nothing will happen.
[01:02] <Elda> First pull up Beryl settings manager, and then scroll down through the options
[01:02] <G3N3SIS> And it says there is no default sound card.
[01:02] <spx2> ompaul i understand ,sorry ,i don't want to bother
[01:02] <Elda> One of them should be a resize plugin
[01:02] <mwe> princemackenzie: display: unabldisplay: unable to load font `-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1'e to load font `-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1'
[01:02] <G3N3SIS> When I go into lspci -v it says there is a sound card.
[01:02] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, no, it'll tell you what you are using
[01:03] <G3N3SIS> where?
[01:03] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, on tab "Devices".
[01:03] <Elda> After doing that just select the check box and viola xD
[01:03] <G3N3SIS> oh ESD is on!
[01:03] <princemackenzie> mwe, i'm unfamiliar with imagemagick im sorry
[01:03] <ompaul> spx2, ask and see what happens
[01:03] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, yea, is anything there ESD?
[01:03] <G3N3SIS> i'm in dapper btw edgy dind't install for me
[01:03] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, ah, OK
[01:03] <mwe> shite ;|
[01:03] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, try killing any esd processes
[01:03] <eyalw> Elda: ok, let me see...
[01:03] <G3N3SIS> should i turn esd off?
[01:03] <G3N3SIS> where would I kill them?
[01:03] <Rprp> Hi, does someone know how to open a file in gftp from the command line?
[01:03] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, that'll do the trick... your sound (if that's the issue) will come back
[01:03] <javaJake> Terminal
[01:03] <Megaqwerty> gaim's sounds just stopped working
[01:03] <javaJake> sudo killall esd.
[01:03] <Megaqwerty> Ideas?
[01:03] <G3N3SIS> k
[01:04] <Willacuz>    How can I set my keyboards volume control to control the PCM channel instead of MASTER ?
[01:04] <javaJake> Megaqwerty, you muted them? :P
[01:04] <Elda> eyalw: Its under the put option
[01:04] <Megaqwerty> javaJake: I doubt it
[01:04] <Elda> Or beneath it anyways
[01:04] <javaJake> Megaqwerty, Right click on the Gaim icon, and be sure you didn't check the Mute Sounds button.
[01:04] <spx2> ompaul i just tried all 4 usbs ,none of them work with my mouse,i can also guarantee that on windows all was working fine,so every hardware issue is eliminated
[01:04] <Megaqwerty> javaJake: my speakers are unmuted, and I enabled them
[01:04] <G3N3SIS> says no processes killed.
[01:04] <Megaqwerty>  javaJake: there is no check there
[01:04] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, hmm, ok...
[01:04] <ompaul> spx2, what kind of computer desktop / laptop?
[01:05] <eyalw> Elda: i found it, thanks!
[01:05] <javaJake> Megaqwerty, alright, I don't know then. That was my only idea. :P
[01:05] <Megaqwerty>  javaJake: and I can play sound files
[01:05] <eyalw> Elda: first time i got help on IRC
[01:05] <Megaqwerty> alright. thanks though. Can anyone else help me?
[01:05] <Elda> No problem, happy I was able to help :)
[01:05] <G3N3SIS> Lucky, I can't hear anything except logout and bootup
[01:05] <Megaqwerty> ^^
[01:05] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, that's it?
[01:05] <Elda> Ah, hehe
[01:05] <G3N3SIS> yeah.
[01:05] <woro2006> why can't i have both postfix and sendmail together?
[01:05] <woro2006> can't they coexist?
[01:05] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, so you can hear music?
[01:05] <Elda> Well Ive been using linux four about ~ 7 days
[01:05] <javaJake> !!
[01:05] <eyalw> Elda: its my second day on ubuntu, or linux at all...
[01:05] <Rprp> Hi, does someone know how to open a file in gftp from the command line?
[01:05] <G3N3SIS> negative
[01:05] <Elda> So Im happy I could help xD
[01:05] <G3N3SIS> I cannot.
[01:05] <spx2> ompaul toshiba satellite m45 or a100 i'm not sure,but my mouse is canyon cn-msopt2
[01:05] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, oh.......
[01:06] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, OK
[01:06] <G3N3SIS> Yeah only the tribal sound.
[01:06] <ompaul> woro2006,  how does the machine decide who to give the port to?
[01:06] <eilker> i did a mistake and removed 55 packages, is there a command to install all packages in /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:06] <Elda> I tried a few different version before Ubuntu but so far Ubuntu is my favorite hehe
[01:06] <ivanhoe> hello to all
[01:06] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, ...ok... so what can you hear?
[01:06] <eyalw> Elda: may i ask you another Q?
[01:06] <G3N3SIS> Just the tribal sound on boot up and logout.
[01:06] <G3N3SIS> Nothing else.
[01:06] <ivanhoe> i search a irc chat from mysql
[01:06] <woro2006> ompaul, can't i just edit it in configuration files
[01:06] <Elda> Sure, not sure if I have the answer though :S
[01:07] <G3N3SIS> The volume control is muted, I can't turn it up because it says either I don't have GStreamer plugins and or devices.
[01:07] <ompaul> woro2006, ehh and the rest of the world will know which one to deal with - use postfix for multiple domains it just works :)
[01:07] <usr13> could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resorce temporarily unavalible)  ???
[01:07] <javaJake> eilker, run "deb -i $(ls -1 /var/cache/apt/archives)"
[01:07] <spx2> javajake do you remember ever having problems with ubuntu when switching from X to some consle with CTRL+ALT+F1 or so ? i mean...does it stalls when does things are done ?
[01:07] <carlfk> what is the diff between memtest86 and 86+ ?
[01:07] <apokryphos> usr13: close anything using dpkg/apt. i.e. synaptic
[01:07] <usr13> (Tring to run apt-update)
[01:07] <ompaul> spx2, got that little green fitting? turn it into PS2 mouse?
[01:07] <javaJake> spx2, no, it would flicker a bit, but that's it.
[01:07] <Elda> eyalw: Sure, not sure if I have the answer though :S
[01:07] <eyalw> Elda: I installed ubuntu, and got the keyboard setting right, (English + Heberew) but I cant recall when or why it changed and now support only one at a time
[01:07] <ivanhoe> anyone speak spanish?
[01:07] <javaJake> spx2, yea, stall slightly while it flickered.
[01:07] <Rprp> Hi, does someone know how to open a file in gftp from the command line?
[01:07] <ivanhoe> nadie habla espaol?
[01:07] <javaJake> !spanish
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spanish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <spx2> ompaul what green ?
[01:07] <Elda> I have no idea :s
[01:08] <uruguaian> i'va q qustion... if i make the 'server' installation... what with the firewall?
[01:08] <ompaul> spx2, usb to ps2 converter
[01:08] <usr13> apokryphos: I dont have synaptic open
[01:08] <spx2> javajake no,i mean like totally freeze
[01:08] <ryanakca> when compiling a kernel, what option do you select to enable iptables
[01:08] <javaJake> spx2, no
[01:08] <carlfk> ivanhoe, /join #ubuntu-es
[01:08] <G3N3SIS> Hey, hey, I need sound.
[01:08] <ompaul> spx2,  came with the mouse in the box
[01:08] <Elda> Ive only been using Ubuntu for about a week in total time give or take a few days :/
[01:08] <eyalw> Elda: ctrl+shift just wont do it...
[01:08] <ryanakca> !firewall | uruguaian
[01:08] <ubotu> uruguaian: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:08] <apokryphos> usr13: you have a dpkg process running, or you're not root. Can't tell without the full output.
[01:08] <spx2> ompaul i don't have one right now,i'm trying to solve the problem without one...if it is possible
[01:08] <Elda> ctrl + shift does what?
[01:08] <ivanhoe> oh thnakyou man for irc chat
[01:08] <spx2> ompaul no i bought the mouse separately
[01:08] <carlfk> uruguaian, server is just a platform for installing servers - it just gets you a kernel, networking apt-get and a shell
[01:08] <eyalw> Elda: *srry, alt+shift
[01:08] <usr13> apokryphos: not sure... looking
[01:08] <eilker> javajake: it says command not found                    deb -i $(ls -1 /var/cache/apt/archives)
[01:08] <Elda> What do you mean?
[01:09] <Elda> What does alt+shift do?
[01:09] <ompaul> spx2, it comes with the mouse (in the same box as the mouse)
[01:09] <eyalw> Elda: usually it would switch layouts
[01:09] <javaJake> eilker, lol, I meant dpkg
[01:09] <Elda> Ah >.>
[01:09] <carlfk> uruguaian, so, there is no firewall
[01:09] <ompaul> spx2, see it fitted here  http://www1.canyon-tech.com/products/show.cfm/Peripherals/Accessories/Mouse/CN-MSOPT2
[01:09] <eyalw> Elda: u probebly use only 1 layout so u're not used to this
[01:09] <spx2> ompaul,oh i didn't have that in my box :(
[01:09] <hou5ton> How can I make the Win key on my laptop open up Synaptic?
[01:09] <uruguaian> ok
[01:09] <uruguaian> thanks
[01:09] <G3N3SIS> God, I need sound so bad.
[01:09] <usr13> Yes ok
[01:09] <G3N3SIS> I let 4 hours go to waste.
[01:09] <Elda> Yep
[01:10] <Elda> Just good old english
[01:10] <usr13> But the problem (really) is:
[01:10] <uruguaian> it is because, i need to configurate iptables to share conection..
[01:10] <eyalw> Elda: well, I'll jureney on in my quest for answers :)
[01:10] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, yea, sorry, try google. That's all I can say.
[01:10] <G3N3SIS> I think, by now, I should either decide to drop this distro and go to SuSE, or get it fixed
[01:10] <Elda> Good luck :)
[01:10] <eyalw> Elda: thanks again
[01:10] <Elda> No problem xD
[01:10] <FireCat> Can anyone tell me how to launch eclipse after installing the package?
[01:10] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, this is one of the worst channels for advanced tech support.
[01:10] <usr13> libopenal0  and  linux-doc  Says cannot install all available updates and lists  those two
[01:10] <kitche> FireCat: opne up a console and type eclipse
[01:10] <carlfk> uruguaian, i think the server supports it - may have to apt-get it - I have it on mine, not sure how it got there :)
[01:10] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, doesn't mean the distro's bad...
[01:10] <ompaul> G3N3SIS, maybe it is a matter of rebooting and then clicking on the little speaker on the top right hand corner of the desktop and you can check what feeds are on - add stuff via preferences
[01:11] <spx2> ompaul it is strange however that on other distro's like vector linux soho 5.1 it worked with no problem the touchpad and the mouse at the same time(like on windows) but here it seems not to work
[01:11] <usr13> so what is libopenal0 and linux-doc anyway?
[01:11] <ompaul> G3N3SIS, the guy who does alsa hacking on ubuntu spent a lot of time here
[01:11] <FireCat> kitche: Thaks, but I already tried that
[01:11] <spx2> ompaul this is my only problem,other than that i like allot ubuntu
[01:11] <usr13> anything I really need?
[01:11] <uruguaian> carlfk: ok, i been used it with firestarter.. but, in 'server'.. not.. :P
[01:11] <ryanakca> when compiling a kernel (in my case, 2.6.19), what option do you select to enable iptables (I'm in 'make menuconfig' at the moment...)?
[01:11] <kitche> FireCat: then your probably missing the binary
[01:11] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, lol, yea, double click on your speaker icon
[01:11] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, and check that no icons have an "X" over them in that window.
[01:11] <ompaul> spx2, if you want to solve it I suggest getting in close to your kernel and having a look at debugging the source
[01:11] <Elda> Sound is for sissies ;)
[01:12] <javaJake> Elda, haha
[01:12] <Xnthus> uruguaian, Have you tried FWBUILDER?
[01:12] <Elda> Then again Ive been deaf since 2000 so :p
[01:12] <uruguaian> Xnthus: not, what is it?
[01:12] <FireCat> kitche: I have u/usr/lib/eclipse and a host of other things
[01:12] <jumble> does ubuntu have a 2GB file size limit?
[01:12] <Cyllene> Hey all. How would one become a package manager for Ubuntu? That is to say, test and compile applications and add them to the repository?
[01:12] <javaJake> Elda, heheh... yea, that helps.
[01:12] <Cyllene> jumble: Depends on the filesystem
[01:12] <kitche> FireCat: look for eclipse in /usr/bin
[01:12] <blameless> jumble: thats usually a filesystem limitation
[01:12] <ryanakca> Cyllene: join #ubuntu-motu
[01:12] <jumble> ok, the system is formatted on ext3, i think.
[01:12] <FireCat> kitche: Nothing there
[01:12] <_GM_FrOdO_> r
[01:12] <usr13> Anyone know what libopenal0 and linux-doc  is ?
[01:12] <_GM_FrOdO_> :\
[01:12] <Cyllene> ryanakca: Thanks
[01:13] <kitche> FireCat: then you don't have the binary then
[01:13] <ompaul> jumble, I hope not cos I did a lot of ubuntu DVD downloads and burns over the last while
[01:13] <_GM_FrOdO_> now I have the command for mount and etc
[01:13] <_GM_FrOdO_> but
[01:13] <Xnthus> http://www.fwbuilder.org/
[01:13] <_GM_FrOdO_> when I type
[01:13] <javaJake> usr13, run "apt-cache show <name>" to find out
[01:13] <spx2> ompaul i do know how to code and debug,but that would be a tremendously big and difficult task to do and it would take too much effort compared to the outcome
[01:13] <FireCat> kitche: So the package is worthless then?
[01:13] <_GM_FrOdO_> thiago@thiago-desktop:~$ mount /dev/hda3/ on computer/
[01:13] <javaJake> spx2, I agree.
[01:13] <Elda> Though Im still going in circles trying to figure out how to make sure that Ubuntu is actually using my video card as it should :S
[01:13] <ompaul> spx2, get a ps2 mouse?
[01:13] <spx2> ompaul i would think there exists a simpler solution
[01:13] <_GM_FrOdO_> mount: root exclusive operation
[01:13] <[erisco] > I am trying to make a simple application that will run a command to open an SH file I have. Basically just a simple executable so that I do not have to go through the command line every time to run my SH file. How could I do this?
[01:13] <_GM_FrOdO_> and now? :\
[01:13] <kitche> FireCat: no its good you probably just didn't install eclipse fully did you install Eclipse-core?
[01:13] <_GM_FrOdO_> this is the unique user in this computer, it's de root
[01:13] <javaJake> spx2, usb to ps2 converters aren't expensive.
[01:13] <jumble> a program im running that needs to generate a large file is generated a "Filze size limit exceeded (core dumped)" message at 2gb. im not sure where the source of the limitation is.
[01:13] <Elda> Installing KDE as it has a nifty control panel like thing
[01:14] <ryanakca> when compiling a kernel (in my case, 2.6.19), what option do you select to enable iptables (I'm in 'make menuconfig' at the moment...)?
[01:14] <spx2> ompaul i am verry affectious to my mouse,i have it for quite a while now
[01:14] <carlfk> jumble, what fs?
[01:14] <_GM_FrOdO_> someone can  help me?
[01:14] <_GM_FrOdO_> :\
[01:14] <ompaul> _GM_FrOdO_, please put all your thoughts on one line, it makes it easy for people to help you
[01:14] <Elda> Help you with what?
[01:14] <carlfk> jumble, I think fat is limited to 2g
[01:14] <_GM_FrOdO_> ompaul sorry...
[01:14] <eilker> is there a log for apt ?? to learning what i did , install and uninstall_?
[01:14] <uruguaian> Xnthus: i use Firestarer to share a conection, it is gui... but for a server i need use ir without guir.. FWbuilder can help me?
[01:14] <usr13> javaJake: apt-cache show ????
[01:14] <jumble> ext3, i think. is tha ta file system? thats what i think i remember seeing from the installation.
[01:14] <jumble> its not fat.
[01:14] <javaJake> ryanakca, if I remember, someone said you can use a config file to have your kernel configured just like the Ubuntu people did.
[01:14] <_GM_FrOdO_> when I try to mount a partition it say "only root can make this" and this account is the root account...
[01:15] <FireCat> kitche: Only the package that the how to said: nstall the packages eclipse-jdt, sun-java5-jre and tomcat5.5.
[01:15] <javaJake> usr13, yea... put the name of the package at the end of that
[01:15] <spx2> ompaul if i ever find a solution can i write an article about it and if so,where should i write it so that as much people as is possible find it usefull ?
[01:15] <_GM_FrOdO_> :(
[01:15] <Elda> well afk, going to work on my physics homework some more xD
[01:15] <carlfk> jumble, yeah, ext3 is a fs.  i forget which all has the 2g limit
[01:15] <usr13> got it
[01:15] <kitche> FireCat: yeah your missing Eclipse-core
[01:15] <_GM_FrOdO_> can someone help?
[01:15] <javaJake> usr13, well, libopenal0 doesn't have any info.
[01:15] <Xnthus> uruguaian, You can use FWBuilder on any PC, I use it on my main PC with gui, then just ssh the file it creates over and run it
[01:15] <mc44> _GM_FrOdO_: you need to use sudo
[01:15] <carlfk> jumbers, pretty sure my dapper ubuntu on ext3 handles 4.5 gig dvd images
[01:16] <_GM_FrOdO_> hmm
[01:16] <ompaul> spx2, well I think wiki.ubuntu.com is not a bad place for that, but frankly the easy option is buy one of those little things that make the usb a ps2 connection
[01:16] <_GM_FrOdO_> ohhhhhhhh
[01:16] <_GM_FrOdO_> ok!!!
[01:16] <uruguaian> Xnthus: thanks!.. i will try it.. now :D
[01:16] <_GM_FrOdO_> thx
[01:16] <ryanakca> javaJake: I don't want it configured like the ubuntu kernel... that's one of the reasons I'm compiling from source :)
[01:16] <Xnthus> uruguaian, That way, no gui needed on the firewall, but got the benefit of one to create the ruleset
[01:16] <carlfk> jumble, any networking stuff going on (like mounted over nfs/smb...)
[01:16] <ompaul> _GM_FrOdO_, please stop using enter in the place of a comma
[01:16] <javaJake> usr13, "OpenAL is a portable library for 3D spatialized audio." - that's libopenal0
[01:16] <usr13> javaJake: I wonder if I have some software that needs to be uninstalled?
[01:16] <javaJake> ryanakca, ah, I see
[01:16] <javaJake> usr13, oh, why?
[01:16] <uruguaian> Xnthus: nice, :)
[01:16] <jumble> um, i don think so. a fat32 partition is mounted into the devices, but im not using that one.
[01:17] <carlfk> ryanakca, what do you want to change?
[01:17] <Xnthus> uruguaian, The .fw file is the one you will want to run on the firewall...
[01:17] <jumble> is it possible that the limit is being imposed by something other than the file system?
[01:17] <DjBrix> can any one help-me!
[01:17] <DjBrix> the folowing packages ha unresolvable dependencies......
[01:17] <ryanakca> uruguaian: for your firewall, look at quicktables, it's the best tool out there (that I've used... and I messed around with various iptables frontends for a couple hours one day)
[01:17] <usr13> It's just that the "Software Updates" stalls and complains that those "two updates will be skipped"
[01:17] <carlfk> jumble, yes - you can use dd to create a 2.1 gig file.  I forget how.
[01:17] <ryanakca> carlfk: I already have all my settings, and I'm in 2.6.19... but I need to re-enable iptables...
[01:18] <jumble> thefile is being generated by a statistical software package called "R"
[01:18] <usr13> javaJake: Should we just ignore the error?
[01:18] <carlfk> ryanakca, um... so 'nothing' ?
[01:18] <ryanakca> carlfk: and iirc, iptables is a frontend to ipchains, but I don't see an option to enable it...
[01:18] <javaJake> usr13, Ah, yea, well, run sudo apt-get update in a terminal to see what's going on. That'll tell you.
[01:18] <DjBrix> Hi linuxers can you help-me?
[01:18] <ompaul> !ask
[01:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:18] <Carpe_Diem> hi people
[01:18] <DjBrix> how do i solve this? the folowing packages ha unresolvable dependencies......
[01:18] <kitche> ryanakca: iptables is the replacement for ipchains not a frontend
[01:18] <javaJake> usr13, it just means the upgrades require something extra, so it'll skip those. apt-get update'll tell you what you need.
[01:18] <ryanakca> kitche: kk
[01:18] <Carpe_Diem> what is the command for mount a partition?
[01:18] <Carpe_Diem> sudo mount...
[01:18] <javaJake> DjBrix, you need to tell us what the packages are.
[01:18] <Carpe_Diem> ????
[01:18] <ompaul> !enter
[01:18] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[01:18] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, mount
[01:18] <carlfk> Carpe_Diem, mount something somewhere
[01:19] <princemackenzie> Carpe_Diem, mount device location
[01:19] <Carpe_Diem> look it's right?
[01:19] <Carpe_Diem> oh
[01:19] <jumble> how would i distinguish a 2gb limit error message generated by the OS and one generated by another source?
[01:19] <Carpe_Diem> sudo mount /dev/hda3/ on computer/
[01:19] <Carpe_Diem> ?
[01:19] <ompaul> Carpe_Diem, mount -t TYPE(ext3/msdos) /from/here /to/there
[01:19] <matthew_> Carpe_Diem, sudo mount /dev/device
[01:19] <bogus> jest ktos z polski ?
[01:19] <matthew_> lol
[01:19] <ompaul> !pl
[01:19] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[01:19] <Carpe_Diem> hm........
[01:19] <bogus> dzikuj ;] 
[01:20] <ooswoosh> ompaul: how did u know the language ?
[01:20] <FireCat> kitche: Thank you, that made it very easy :)
[01:20] <DjBrix> javaJake: how can i solve it?
[01:20] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, mmm... well, remove the last "on computer/"
[01:20] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, just run "/dev/hda3"
[01:20] <carlfk> Carpe_Diem, the something is a device, not a dir - so /dev/hda3 - the somwhere is a mountpoint, or a dir
[01:20] <ompaul> ooswoosh,  >>polski<< kinda obvious :)
[01:20] <ooswoosh> ompaul: alright
[01:20] <DjBrix> javaJake:  ?
[01:20] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, I mean, "mount /dev/hda3" and tell me if that works
[01:20] <jumble> what is "samba"?
[01:20] <ooswoosh> ompaul: well spotted
[01:21] <javaJake> DjBrix, I need some output.
[01:21] <Carpe_Diem> ok java
[01:21] <Carpe_Diem> i go try
[01:21] <DjBrix> ok :)
[01:21] <carlfk> jumble, windows networking - samba.org
[01:21] <Carpe_Diem> say "only root can make this"
[01:21] <Carpe_Diem> I think I need use sudo
[01:21] <Carpe_Diem> no?
[01:21] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, yea. :P
[01:22] <Carpe_Diem> mount: o ponto de montagem none no existe
[01:22] <ooswoosh> Carpe_Diem: when u r not root add "sudo" at the beginning of the command
[01:22] <Carpe_Diem> the mount point don't exist
[01:22] <ompaul> Carpe_Diem, please put all your thoughts on one line -- the use of enter is very annoying after two or three words in a busy channel such as this thanks
[01:22] <Carpe_Diem> k ompaul :x
[01:23] <RxDx> Carpe_Diem, just use "sudo + command" by AXION, again =P
[01:23] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, alright, what does "cat /etc/fstab | grep hda3" say?
[01:23] <matthew_> Carpe_Diem, remember, you can (and should) start out messages to specific people with their username...instead of typing it out every time, you can start it, then hit tab.
[01:23] <usr13> javaJake: output of apt-get update ... See:http://pastebin.ca/265086
[01:23] <javaJake> RxDx, that isn't the issue
[01:23] <Carpe_Diem> # /dev/hda3
[01:23] <Carpe_Diem> thiago@thiago-desktop:~$
[01:23] <jumble> is it possible that the 2gb limit is imposed by the BASH shell?
[01:23] <carlfk> javaJake, why the pipe?  why not just grep hda3 /etc/fstab
[01:23] <carlfk> jumble, no.
[01:23] <Carpe_Diem> matthew_,  I know =p
[01:24] <jumble> bummer. i was hoping for an easy answer.
[01:24] <ArrenLex> matthew_: COOL! OMG I never knew that! THANK YOU
[01:24] <matthew_> Carpe_Diem, k, sorry...
[01:24] <DarkED> hey all, if i use gparted to resize my ntfs on ubuntu install, i should be okay so long as its 40-50% free space, right?
[01:24] <matthew_> ha ha, I knew it!
[01:24] <G3N3SIS> BREAKTHRU BREAKTHRU
[01:24] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, OK. Is /dev/hda3 an ext3 partition?
[01:24] <G3N3SIS> Javajake, I need you now!
[01:24] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, OOO!
[01:24] <Carpe_Diem> is
[01:24] <G3N3SIS> I did a lspci -v
[01:24] <G3N3SIS> and it picks up my card!
[01:24] <matthew_> I find it's better to treat everyone as if they don't know anything; that way it's easier to tell them what to do.
[01:24] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, OK, remove that line, and add this:
[01:25] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, ....ok.... that's, uh, great...
[01:25] <G3N3SIS> but... if i do a sudo modprobe snd- it doesn't pick anything up
[01:25] <r00t-fck> where do i get sftp?
[01:25] <javaJake> G3N3SIS, Oh
[01:25] <Carpe_Diem> ...
[01:25] <G3N3SIS> Still soundless, but it's not doing anythign.  Any ideas on useage?
[01:25] <usr13> apt-get update errors - See: http://pastebin.ca/265086
[01:25] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, Sorry, getting to you. :P
[01:25] <Carpe_Diem> oh ok
[01:25] <carlfk> jumble, dd if=/dev/zerro of=big.file count=2100000 bs=1000
[01:25] <Carpe_Diem> :)
[01:26] <jumble> pardon?
[01:26] <ArrenLex> carlfk: you mean zero?
[01:26] <carlfk> ArrenLex, oh yeah - I am a terible speller :)
[01:26] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, I believe this'll work: /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 ext3 auto 0 0
[01:26] <uruguaian> Xnthus: thanks for all :)
[01:26] <jumble> i dont understand what you're telling me to do... sorry...
[01:26] <javaJake> usr13, run "sudo apt-get update" and try again".
[01:26] <spx2> ompaul i'm currently researching the problem on the net
[01:27] <carlfk> jumble, create a 2.1 gig file.  see if the os and fs support it.
[01:27] <javaJake> spx2, excellent! let me know how it goes!
[01:27] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, bash: /dev/hda3: Permisso negada
[01:27] <jumble> ok but you're saying i do that by typing that text into the terminal window?
[01:27] <matthew_> Carpe_Diem, try sudo
[01:27] <jumble> ok but you're saying i do that by typing that text into the terminal window?
[01:27] <Carpe_Diem> Don't have permission
[01:27] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, um, you need to use sudo.
[01:27] <carlfk> jumble, correct
[01:28] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, add the text I gave you to the end of /etc/fstab.
[01:28] <Carpe_Diem> I tried sudo /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 ext3 auto 0 0
[01:28] <matthew_> jumble, you might want to do sudo cfdisk /dev/whatever
[01:28] <Carpe_Diem> and nothing........
[01:28] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, Sorry, I wasn't clear
[01:28] <carlfk> jumble, only zero, not zerro :)
[01:28] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, run "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[01:28] <eilker> cant i show to adept a local repo ??? as /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:28] <matthew_> Carpe_Diem, you need to type sudo mount whatever
[01:28] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, and add that text to the end, save, and close.
[01:28] <javaJake> matthew_, that still isn't the issue
[01:28] <Carpe_Diem> happen nothing...
[01:28] <matthew_> javaJake, sorry
[01:29] <javaJake> matthew_, the issue is that he is running the text on the command line, when he needs to add that at the end of a file.
[01:29] <matthew_> ah, ok.
[01:29] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, sorry I'm a noob :P
[01:29] <spx2> javajake ofcourse
[01:29] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, OK, did you run "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"?
[01:29] <Carpe_Diem> yes
[01:29] <javaJake> OK
[01:29] <wikityler> when i used suse, i could open a window and log on as another user in that window, while still logged in as me in the background. I don't know what that's called, but can i do it in ubuntu?
[01:29] <javaJake> Did you get a window?
[01:29] <javaJake> With text?
[01:29] <Carpe_Diem> no.....
[01:29] <javaJake> Oh
[01:29] <javaJake> What happened?
[01:29] <Carpe_Diem> nothing.....
[01:30] <Carpe_Diem> a empty line behind the command
[01:30] <javaJake> wikityler, yea, in a terminal, run "login".
[01:30] <Carpe_Diem> oh........now the window appear
[01:30] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, yay.
[01:30] <jumble> carlfk, looks like it worked. so the 2gb limit is not being imposed by the file system.
[01:30] <spx2> ompaul , javajake if i wnat to find out if a certain device /dev/blah exists how do i do ? i mean ...if it is beeing used by someone or something
[01:30] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake,  the window appear now... fstab
[01:30] <matthew_> javaJake, Carpe_Diem , yay!!
[01:30] <Carpe_Diem> :P
[01:30] <javaJake> lol
[01:30] <ompaul> spx2, lsusb for you :)_
[01:31] <javaJake> OK, now add that text I gave you at the end of that.
[01:31] <javaJake> And save and close
[01:31] <usr13> javaJake: I've appended /etc/apt/soruces.list to:
[01:31] <usr13> http://pastebin.ca/265086
[01:31] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake,  /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 ext3 auto 0 0
[01:31] <carlfk> jumble, or the OS (which at one point I think Linux may have been limited
[01:31] <Carpe_Diem> this text?
[01:31] <javaJake> Yea
[01:31] <eilker> cant i show to adept a local repo ??? as /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:31] <matthew_> jumble, are you trying to make a >2 Gb swap?
[01:31] <jumble> ok,well i guess that is useful info, although i dont know how to locate the problem now, unfortunately.
[01:32] <eloquence_> can somebody help me with this? http://pastebin.ca/265091 I think there is a problem in the makefile adding an extra /
[01:32] <javaJake> usr13, oh, so sorry!!!!!! I meant "sudo apt-get upgrade"!!!!
[01:32] <nikin> i think the time to update to edgy has come for me, but apt-get dit-upgrade doesnot want to do that
[01:32] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake,  ok......and now?
[01:32] <jumble> no. im using a statistical software package called "R" and its doing bayesian estimation, which requires taking millions of draws from a statistical distribution which need to be stored in a big file.
[01:32] <nikin> any idead
[01:32] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, click the Save button, and close the window
[01:32] <carlfk> jumble, use the strings command and maybe grep to see if the "error message" is part of the program you are running
[01:32] <spx2> ompaul thx :)
[01:32] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, ok..........and now? :P
[01:32] <matthew_> jumble, ah, ok. I'm no help....
[01:32] <darrint> If I run crontab -e I get permission denied after editing the file. (on dapper) Is there something I can do to fix that?
[01:33] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, run "sudo mkdir /media/hda3"
[01:33] <jumble> carl, how do i do that? (or point me to a document that explains how)? sorry, i am still basically clueless on linux.
[01:33] <javaJake> darrint, sudo?
[01:33] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, right.....and??
[01:33] <Carpe_Diem> :D
[01:33] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, run "sudo mount /media/hda3"
[01:33] <darrint> javaJake: I want it to be in the user's crontab
[01:33] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, /dev/hda3'll appear in the /media/hda3 folder.
[01:33] <Carpe_Diem> mount: /dev/hda3 j montado ou /media/hda3 ocupado
[01:33] <javaJake> darrint, oh, OK. nvm
[01:33] <Carpe_Diem> .....
[01:34] <SilentWarrior> hi, i need help, problem is i want to install wireless conceptronic 54mb usb adapter, from a clean ubuntu 6.06 LTS 32bit, and i get a no file found exception for the "build" file
[01:34] <javaJake> Can you translate that into Enlgish? :P
[01:34] <javaJake> English*
[01:34] <Carpe_Diem> yes....
[01:34] <Kim^J> [FUN] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bad_Jokes_and_Other_Deleted_Nonsense/ASCII_cows[/FUN] 
[01:34] <carlfk> jumble, carl@dell17:~$ strings /bin/dd
[01:34] <Carpe_Diem> already mounted or busy
[01:34] <simmerz> how do i get around the problem of the updater in kubuntu when it wants to give configuration options via the dialog? it displays the dialog when i view the full progress, but it doesn't let me input anything
[01:34] <matthew_> javaJake, shouldn't "/media/hda3" be "/dev/hda3" ?
[01:34] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, OK, check the folder /media/hda3"
[01:34] <simmerz> this is using adept-manager
[01:34] <javaJake> matthew_, no, not necessarily
[01:34] <carlfk> jumble, then pipe that to less so you can see it all: carl@dell17:~$ strings /bin/dd |less
[01:34] <matthew_> javaJake, ok, wasn't sure...
[01:34] <Carpe_Diem> oh FINALLY!
[01:34] <Carpe_Diem> :X
[01:34] <javaJake> matthew_, I should know, since i've done this three thousand times on the livecd. :D
[01:35] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, lol
[01:35] <matthew_> lol
[01:35] <jumble> do i need to run the offending program again before i type that in?
[01:35] <javaJake> matthew_, I've literally got that fstab line memorized. :P
[01:35] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, and now how I move this hda3 for the "Computer" folder?
[01:35] <kbrooks> how do i turn on gnome-terminal menu?
[01:35] <spx2> javajake , ompaul what does EHCI Host Controller mean ?
[01:35] <nikin> rightclick
[01:35] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, can you rephrase that?
[01:36] <matthew_> javaJake, I don't know if that's impressive or sad...I think I'll go with impressive...
[01:36] <SilentWarrior> sorry to repeat but -  i need help, problem is i want to install wireless conceptronic 54mb usb adapter, from a clean ubuntu 6.06 LTS 32bit, and i get a no file found exception for the "build" file
[01:36] <javaJake> matthew_, well, neither... :P
[01:36] <nikin> my edgy update is not more just 1644 Mb, my ISP is gona hate me
[01:36] <Carpe_Diem> I need access media/hda3.....
[01:36] <javaJake> matthew_, I've had to use the livecd to recover stuff.
[01:36] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, Yep.
[01:36] <Carpe_Diem> what I make for this appear when I click in the "Computer" icon the desktop?
[01:36] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, you just want to get to the folder?
[01:36] <spx2> ompaul , javajake the same question for OHCI Host Controller
[01:37] <eilker> !lamp
[01:37] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[01:37] <matthew_> java, you use the ubuntu liveCD?!?! I like to use DSL...50 Mb distro w/ gui and other stuff...
[01:37] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, do you want to view the folder?
[01:37] <Carpe_Diem> yes
[01:37] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, see what's in /media/hda3?
[01:37] <matthew_> javaJake, I'll keep it on topic now...sorry
[01:37] <javaJake> matthew_, np!
[01:37] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, without type media/hda3
[01:37] <Carpe_Diem> ..........
[01:37] <DjBrix> javaJake: Any idea?
[01:37] <DjBrix> G3N3SIS:  you are not the only one needing javaJake! So be patiente!
[01:38] <DjBrix> javaJake:  dont forget this boy :)
[01:38] <DjBrix> help-me!
[01:38] <DjBrix> Help-me! i cant run apt-get install ..........
[01:38] <DjBrix> javaJake:  Have you forget me?
[01:38] <Carpe_Diem> my windows partition is in the "computer" folder, I wanna this partition too there
[01:38] <javaJake> DjBrix, ...
[01:38] <DjBrix> HELP-ME!
[01:38] <DjBrix> HELP-ME!
[01:38] <javaJake> DjBrix, yea..
[01:38] <javaJake> DjBrix, darn, I did.
[01:38] <matthew_> DjBrix, ok, whats the prob?
[01:38] <javaJake> DjBrix, where'd we leave off? :P
[01:38] <Elda> Spam is bad...
[01:38] <matthew_> lol, nice
[01:38] <nikin> anyone ever tested what is the minimum install size for a Dapper Server system? with apache
[01:38] <SilentWarrior> is there a help only channel for the ubuntu distro ?
[01:38] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake,  understand?
[01:38] <matthew_> nikin, I think it's about 400 megs...
[01:39] <matthew_> maybe more
[01:39] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, OK, open Places -> Home Folder
[01:39] <carlfk> nikin, about 350meg
[01:39] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, yea
[01:39] <Eroick> SilentWarrior: help only channel? This is the Offical Help channel
[01:39] <SilentWarrior> xD
[01:39] <SilentWarrior> sorry to repeat but -  i need help, problem is i want to install wireless conceptronic 54mb usb adapter, from a clean ubuntu 6.06 LTS 32bit, and i get a no file found exception for the "build" file
[01:39] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake,  ok
[01:39] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, have only my folder, thiago
[01:39] <ompaul> DjBrix, do something like that again and you will be banned, ask your question once and wait
[01:39] <javaJake> Yea
[01:39] <Eroick> SilentWarrior: how did you try and install it?
[01:39] <nikin> so you think i can do it on a 512Mb usbkey, and i will have some space for the webpage left over
[01:40] <matthew_> SilentWarrior, try cd'ing to the directory where all the make stuff is and then make'ing
[01:40] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, and now?
[01:40] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, then punch Ctrl+L and type /media
[01:40] <DjBrix> sorry ompaul im desperated!
[01:40] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, and now?
[01:40] <matthew_> dj, maybe I can help
[01:40] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, wait, you want to be sure /media/hda3 appears every time you start your computer?
[01:40] <matthew_> DjBrix, maybe I can help
[01:40] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, hm.....no? :P
[01:40] <swaby1> I need help with a lexmark x1240 printer will it work with ubuntu
[01:40] <DjBrix> matthew_:  the folowing packages ha unresolvable dependencies......
[01:40] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, you should see hda3 there
[01:41] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, yes, it's her
[01:41] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, double-click it to go into the folder, and walla
[01:41] <Carpe_Diem> here*
[01:41] <matthew_> DjBrix, have you tried sudo apt-get update?
[01:41] <DjBrix> matthew_:  sorry for using a pm
[01:41] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, omg man I know this :P
[01:41] <blanky> hey guys
[01:41] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, ok. :P
[01:41] <DjBrix> matthew_:  yes
[01:41] <matthew_> DjBrix, how do you pm?
[01:41] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, just making sure. :D
[01:41] <bruenig> !hi | blanky
[01:41] <ubotu> blanky: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:41] <Elda> Ive got two questions.  One, if I were to make a change in KDE to my hardware settings, would it carry over to a gnome session?  Second, if I wanted to start a KDE session with this user name, would I have to log out of this session completely?
[01:41] <blanky> when i try to empty my recycle bin it says no permission or whatever
[01:41] <blanky> lol bruenig
[01:41] <SilentWarrior> matthew_ yeah did that, i didnt got anything because i didnt have the "make" command, but installed it via ubuntu cd, along with loads of other stuff i felt it would need, yet, after it does try to build but gives that error
[01:41] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, I wanna this hda3 folder appear in the folder where have the CD Driver...and etc
[01:41] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, understand? :\
[01:41] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, oh yea!!!!
[01:41] <DjBrix> matthew_:  iv sended a pm with the large command
[01:41] <Carpe_Diem> \o/
[01:42] <bruenig> blanky, try, chmod 777 ~/.Trash
[01:42] <DjBrix> pm= private chat!
[01:42] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, OK, go to /media again (so you see hda3 int he window)
[01:42] <blanky> bruenig: lol okay
[01:42] <Carpe_Diem> yes
[01:42] <usr13> javaJake: I'm thinking something in sources.list should be removed or... not sure, but did you look at /etc/apt/soruces.list that I posted earlier?
[01:42] <nikin> Elda: yes, and you have to logout to GDM
[01:42] <nikin> or KDM
[01:42] <Elda> Okey
[01:42] <Elda> Well, then brb :s
[01:42] <DjBrix> any idea matthew_
[01:42] <javaJake> usr13, yea, and then I told you to run "sudo apt-get upgrade" :_)
[01:42] <Carpe_Diem> it's here, beautiful
[01:42] <Carpe_Diem> :P
[01:42] <Carpe_Diem> hahahah lol :D
[01:42] <roughtrader> how do I give myself write access to all mounts on my system?
[01:42] <spx2> does this sound familiar to anyone here - EHCI/OHCI Host Controller ?
[01:42] <javaJake> DjBrix, you NEED to post your output!!!
[01:43] <Eroick> roughtrader: use sudo
[01:43] <matthew_> DjBrix, uh, so apt-get update doesn't tell you what you need?
[01:43] <jrib> roughtrader: mount them properly.  What filesystem?
[01:43] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake,  ?
[01:43] <DjBrix> matthew_:  no it runs without problem
[01:43] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, OK, now right click the fodler
[01:43] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, ok
[01:43] <roughtrader> I have installed edgy on sda1
[01:43] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, Nvm, drag it over to the left.
[01:43] <roughtrader> i have mounted an additional drive sdb1
[01:43] <bruenig> blanky, did that work?
[01:43] <matthew_> DjBrix, nope, sorry, no clue...haven't really wrestled with dependencies before...
[01:43] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, below everything else.
[01:44] <jrib> roughtrader: right, but is that ext3, ntfs, fat?
[01:44] <roughtrader> instead of having to sudo to write to sdb1, I want to have automatic permission
[01:44] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, right click and drag? Oo
[01:44] <roughtrader> but I don't know how to set this up
[01:44] <blanky> bruenig: actually, i cd'd into the folder ant there's nothing there, is that normal?
[01:44] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, no no, nvm about that rightclick
[01:44] <roughtrader> ext3
[01:44] <Carpe_Diem> O.O
[01:44] <bruenig> blanky, if there is nothing in the trash it is
[01:44] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, just drag it below the folders you see to the left.
[01:44] <jrib> roughtrader: then just use permissions as you normally would with any other file
[01:44] <blanky> bruenig: no, when I cd into ~/.Trash, nothing there
[01:45] <roughtrader> jrib: can you give me an example?
[01:45] <blanky> bruenig: but when i open it in the little icon, theres things in there
[01:45] <matthew_> SilentWarrior, try sudo apt-get remove make, then sudo apt-get install make...
[01:45] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, and now?:
[01:45] <usr13> sources.list: See: http://pastebin.ca/265107
[01:45] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, do you see hda3 on the left now?
[01:45] <nikin> roughtrader change the permission of /media
[01:45] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, have a line like this ------------
[01:45] <sting3r> ubuntu and nepethes honeypot rock
[01:45] <usr13> javaJake: sources.list: See: http://pastebin.ca/265107
[01:45] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, you should see it in your Places menu now as well
[01:45] <matthew_> matthew_,
[01:45] <bruenig> blanky, that is not normal. What DE are you in?
[01:45] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, yea, that's it
[01:45] <jrib> roughtrader: sure, here is how you let everyone read write and execute:  sudo chmod 777 /mount/point   I'll have the bot send you info on permissions
[01:45] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, you want to drag below that.
[01:45] <blanky> bruenig: KDE
[01:45] <roughtrader> thanks jrib
[01:45] <jrib> !permissions > roughtrader
[01:46] <bruenig> blanky, I am not positive that is where the trash is in kde, I know that is where it is in gnome.
[01:46] <DjBrix> javaJake:  i did it in you private chat
[01:46] <jrib> roughtrader: depending on your want to do, you may want to change ownership of the mount point instead.  For that you would use 'chown'
[01:46] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, hm.....now when I click open /media directly
[01:46] <Carpe_Diem> :D
[01:46] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, it's it?
[01:46] <noelferreira> does anyone knows why firefox and thunderbird won't start in a fresh install of edgy?
[01:46] <roughtrader> yeah, I want to move ownership from administrator to roughtrader of all mounts
[01:46] <javaJake> usr13, you need to run "sudo apt-get upgrade" and tell me what it says. I know that your sources.list file is there, but I don't think we need to edit it for this to work.
[01:46] <blanky> bruenig: aahhh i understand now thanks
[01:47] <mikedoty> I'm trying to use a gamepad I just bought with the zsnes emulator.  It recognizes all of the button presses, but I can't seem to get it to respond to the d-pad.  Any ideas?
[01:47] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, does it say "hda3" where you dragged it?
[01:47] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, yes :P
[01:47] <matthew_> mikedoty, is there a config file that you can edit?
[01:47] <jrib> roughtrader: just   sudo chown roughtrader:roughtrader /path/to/somewhere   will give you ownership (and change the group too).  You are just editing the permissions on the mounted files basically
[01:47] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, but I already renamed xD
[01:47] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, when you click on that thing you dragged, it should open /media/hda3
[01:47] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, yes
[01:47] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, OK
[01:47] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, that's it, right?
[01:47] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, it's right?
[01:47] <Carpe_Diem> right!
[01:47] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, yea
[01:47] <Carpe_Diem> \o/
[01:47] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, lol...
[01:47] <mikedoty> I'm not sure about whether there's a config file
[01:48] <Carpe_Diem> :P
[01:48] <roughtrader> cool thanks jrib
[01:48] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, where are you from?
[01:48] <mikedoty> I'll try looking around for zsnes related tips first
[01:48] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, MA, USA.
[01:48] <Andypat10> what is the difference between xamame-x and xmame-sdl and which is better?
[01:48] <DjBrix> javaJake:  whatch you private chat!
[01:48] <matthew_> mikedoty, try looking under /etc for a config file for the emulator
[01:48] <DjBrix> javaJake:  iany shot?
[01:48] <DjBrix> javaJake: any idea?
[01:48] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, why when I try to copy a thing into HDA3 I can't?
[01:48] <usr13> javaJake: it says that the "followning ackages have been kept back:  libopenal0 linux-doc
[01:48] <javaJake> DjBrix, I'm not getting anything in private cha
[01:49] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, HDA3 it's a partition in fat32....
[01:49] <Carpe_Diem> not a folder
[01:49] <Carpe_Diem> :\
[01:49] <DjBrix> i send the code because it is to big
[01:49] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, oh, so hda3 is fat32!?
[01:49] <Carpe_Diem> yes it's
[01:49] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, oh, LOL
[01:49] <DjBrix> 20 lines i wont put it here is it to big javaJake
[01:49] <Carpe_Diem> what? :\
[01:49] <javaJake> DjBrix, ok, you need to goto pastebin.com
[01:49] <usr13> javaJake: also says:  "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[01:49] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, well, you need to remove that line in /etc/fstab we created.
[01:50] <Carpe_Diem> -.-
[01:50] <Carpe_Diem> FUUUUUCCCCKKKKKkkk :P
[01:50] <javaJake> usr13, ok, that's it?
[01:50] <ompaul> !language
[01:50] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:50] <princemackenzie> !language
[01:50] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, well, it won't affect anything, so don't worry.
[01:50] <DjBrix> javaJake:  pastebin.com?!?!?
[01:50] <mikedoty> I did find the config file, though I'm not sure which values I'd hard code in to have it read on the d-pad
[01:50] <cbruno> #cedarlug
[01:50] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, well........removed and now????
[01:50] <cbruno> \join #cedarlug
[01:50] <Carpe_Diem> # /dev/hda3
[01:50] <Carpe_Diem> UUID=023ad8fb-1f3a-4f5b-8429-8830ffb4be98 none
[01:51] <Carpe_Diem> woot.....why it's "none"?
[01:51] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, ok
[01:51] <usr13> javaJake: Yes, that' it
[01:51] <matthew_> mikedoty, try google...I'm don't know anything more...sorry
[01:51] <DjBrix> javaJake:  and do what there?
[01:51] <mikedoty> Ok, thanks for the idea though ;)
[01:51] <Andypat10> @mike what are u  trying to do?
[01:51] <javaJake> usr13, hmmm... it should tell you why
[01:51] <tim167> how do I search inside textfiles without opening them in a text editor ?
[01:51] <javaJake> DjBrix, paste the output there.
[01:51] <mikedoty> trying to get my d-pad to work with zsnes
[01:51] <gouki> tim167: cat the file and then | grep keyword
[01:51] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, I think I need go in Windows, format this thing again.....
[01:52] <Andypat10> what controller you using? a logitech one?
[01:52] <minerale> I wonder if there's a Atlanta lug - a Google search for 'atlanta lug' yields nothing relevant
[01:52] <tim167> gouki: what is 'cat'-ing a file?
[01:52] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, Maybe...
[01:52] <DjBrix> javaJake: ;)
[01:52] <Carpe_Diem> java yes......
[01:52] <mikedoty> It's from "wirelesswave" it seems
[01:52] <gouki> !cat
[01:52] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:52] <dou213> what was the command to close the eth0 connection?
[01:52] <mikedoty> I just bought it at wal-mart
[01:52] <linuzo> I currently have ubuntu 6.06 installed can I upgrade to 6.10 with apt-get?
[01:52] <Andypat10> ok
[01:52] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, if I format in FAT32 ubuntu already add in this fstab?
[01:52] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, ok, well, you aren't able to copy files in because you aren't root
[01:53] <gleesond> whats the script/program that gets all the codecs working... something like "easy ubuntu"?
[01:53] <mikedoty> I'm at this webpage that might help me get it working, hold on...
[01:53] <tim167> gouki: thanks
[01:53] <Renan_s2> !upgrade > linuzo
[01:53] <gouki> tim167: Usage: cat file | grep keyword_for_search
[01:53] <Renan_s2> !upgrade | linuzo
[01:53] <ubotu> linuzo: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:53] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, only during installation will Ubuntu auto-detect partitions
[01:53] <usr13> javaJake: apt-get upgrade See: http://pastebin.ca/265119
[01:53] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, shit........ :\
[01:53] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, and now?
[01:53] <gouki> !language > Carpe_Diem
[01:53] <linuzo> Thank You Renan_s2
[01:53] <ompaul> Carpe_Diem, one more bad word and bye bye
[01:53] <Carpe_Diem> sorry all -.-
[01:53] <kmitch87> gleesond: Yes, the script is named easyUbuntu, but beware that it will mess up future upgrades.
[01:54] <Carpe_Diem> ompaul,  it's the first! :\
[01:54] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, well, when you format, as long as the partition itself doesn't change, you'll be fine.
[01:54] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, my windows partition appear correctly
[01:54] <ompaul> Carpe_Diem, ehh don't argue with me, it was not - and you can scroll back to the 50th minute
[01:54] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, ok, just don't change the partition type (fat32)
[01:55] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, if I format this fat32 partition again, it will appear correctly?
[01:55] <noelferreira> anyone knows why firefox won't start in edgy?
[01:55] <javaJake> Carpe_Diem, yes
[01:55] <Carpe_Diem> ompaul, :x k
[01:55] <javaJake> usr13, alright, let me look
[01:55] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, well.....I go format :P
[01:55] <SilentWarrior> sorry to repeat but -  i need help, problem is i want to install wireless conceptronic 54mb usb adapter, from a clean ubuntu 6.06 LTS 32bit, and i get a no file found exception for the "build" file
[01:55] <tim167> gouki: ok that works great, thanks !
[01:55] <gouki> tim167: NP
[01:55] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, I back ^^
[01:55] <DjBrix> javaJake:  pastebin.com is givin an error
[01:56] <Carpe_Diem> javaJake, bb :P
[01:56] <usr13> javaJake: sources.list: See: http://pastebin.ca/265124
[01:56] <Andypat10> whats the difference between something-x and sumthing -sdl
[01:56] <Shoo-Shu> hey, how do u find out how much ram u have on ubuntu?
[01:57] <javaJake> usr13, run "sudo apt-get install libopenal0"
[01:57] <javaJake> usr13, and give me the output
[01:57] <javaJake> DjBrix, really?
[01:57] <javaJake> DjBrix, well, find a way to give me the output without spamming here.
[01:57] <DjBrix> ok
[01:57] <javaJake> DjBrix, e-mail me here: fun 2 program 8 _AT_ yahoo DIT com
[01:57] <usr13> javaJake: ok
[01:57] <javaJake> DjBrix, can you see through all that?
[01:57] <javaJake> :P
[01:58] <DjBrix> ill post in my website javaJake
[01:59] <javaJake> DjBrix, OK
[01:59] <Shoo-Shu> .. sorry to be such a pain.. but how do u find out how much ram u have with ubuntu?
[01:59] <DjBrix> javajake worked   http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=837863
[01:59] <javaJake> DjBrix, usr13, I'll be leaving very soon.
[01:59] <javaJake> DjBrix, yay
[01:59] <G3N3SIS> how do I update modules in terminal?
[01:59] <nolimitsoya> Shoo-Shu, its typed out at boot, in bios
[01:59] <DjBrix> javaJake:  help-us first
[01:59] <javaJake> Shoo-Shu, run free -m
[01:59] <javaJake> DjBrix, heheh
[02:00] <Andypat10> @mikedoty u figure it out?
[02:00] <Shoo-Shu> thanks
[02:00] <G3N3SIS> Someone, how do I update modules?
[02:00] <usr13> javaJake: output of apt-get install libopenal0 See: http://pastebin.ca/265131
[02:00] <G3N3SIS> Strabes!
[02:00] <SilentWarrior>  i need help, ii get a no file found exception for the "build" file -------> http://pastebin.ca/265132
[02:01] <javaJake> DjBrix, wow, serious dependancy issues
[02:01] <G3N3SIS> Someone, quickly, how do I update modules?
[02:01] <DjBrix> yes how can i fix?
[02:01] <javaJake> DjBrix, well, you have to read through all that.
[02:01] <mikedoty> Can anyone here recommend an snes emulator superior to zsnes?
[02:01] <javaJake> DjBrix, and figure out how to get each thing worked out. :(
[02:01] <Andypat10> mike
[02:01] <SilentWarrior> sudo apt-get remove linux doesnt work :(
[02:02] <DjBrix> javaJake:  the problem is , is need some library when he is alredy instaled
[02:02] <javaJake> usr13, ok, you removed libmpeg in the process of upgrading that.
[02:02] <Andypat10> ill try to help u in private chat
[02:02] <tim167> I can find words in a bunch of textfiles using cat file | grep search_term, but how do I get the next 10 or 20 lines  starting from the one in which the search_term occurs ?
[02:02] <strabes> mikedoty: zsnes is the best one i've ever found
[02:02] <noelferreira> firefox won't start
[02:02] <nolimitsoya> SilentWarrior, its a conspiracy ;)
[02:02] <noelferreira> any idea?
[02:02] <mikedoty> ok Andy
[02:02] <garret> All, I just upgraded to edgy and now I can not log into KDE or use any KDE application, what did I do wrong?
[02:02] <javaJake> DjBrix, oh, alright
[02:02] <Seilo> hi guys
[02:02] <nolimitsoya> noelferreira, type firefox in a terminal and read the output
[02:02] <Seilo> i try to sign the ubunucodeof conduct but it gives me
[02:02] <Seilo> gpg: can't open `UbuntuCodeOfConduct-1.0.1.txt': No such file or directory
[02:02] <Seilo> gpg: UbuntuCodeOfConduct-1.0.1.txt: clearsign failed: file open error
[02:03] <javaJake> usr13, try the same thing on the other file
[02:03] <javaJake> GTG
[02:03] <javaJake> Dang
[02:03] <nolimitsoya> !pastebin
[02:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:03] <usr13> javaJake: Ok, well I ran Software Updates  or update manager again and it woks ok now.
[02:03] <javaJake> OK
[02:03] <noelferreira> no output nolimitsoya, process goes to sleep
[02:03] <javaJake> Good
[02:03] <javaJake> Bye everyone
[02:03] <DjBrix> javaJake:  what can i do?  some packs nedd packs that alredy are instaled
[02:03] <javaJake> DjBrix, unfortunately I can't help you anymore
[02:03] <usr13> javaJake:  that seems to have fixed it.  Thanks a lot
[02:03] <nolimitsoya> noelferreira, try a reinstall then
[02:03] <Andypat10> did u get my messages in private mike?
[02:03] <nolimitsoya> noelferreira, of firefox, that is :P
[02:03] <DjBrix> javaJake:  just give-me a clue
[02:03] <javaJake> DjBrix, post it on forums, see fi you can get help there.
[02:03] <mikedoty> Hm no, I don't see any
[02:03] <javaJake> DjBrix, the package won't install cuase it needs stuff it can't get.
[02:03] <oxyd> anyone who have ubuntu server installed?
[02:03] <javaJake> GTG
[02:03] <javaJake> Bye
[02:03] <noelferreira> same siuation nolimitsoya
[02:04] <mikedoty> sorry I wasn't id'd
[02:04] <DjBrix> iv done that
[02:04] <spx2> ompaul ?
[02:04] <ompaul> y?
[02:04] <noelferreira> i tried eveything nolimitsoya
[02:04] <noelferreira> i use edgy
[02:04] <noelferreira> nolimitsoya: also thunderbird don't run
[02:04] <spx2> if i want to disable my touchpad...i have a section in the xorg.conf with exactly that name ,if i comment it will the touchpad be deactivated ?
[02:04] <Plouj> what's the difference between configuring networking in /etc/network/interfaces and in the gnome System -> Networking dialog?
[02:04] <SilentWarrior> are pming blocked by the server?
[02:04] <DjBrix> javajake the pack is instaled but it does not detect it
[02:04] <nolimitsoya> noelferreira, mozillaproblem then, is it?
[02:04] <DjBrix> oxyd me!
[02:04] <noelferreira> i guess nolimitsoya
[02:05] <usr13> Thanks all/  see you all later.
[02:05] <spx2> ompaul if i want to disable my touchpad...i have a section in the xorg.conf with exactly that name ,if i comment it will the touchpad be deactivated ?
[02:05] <blameless> so, ident2 or nullidentd?  i've used nullidentd before but i don't really want to install inetd for it
[02:05] <ompaul> spx2, I would do that from "bum" the boot up manager
[02:05] <Andypat10> mike i saw urs can u see what i said after it
[02:05] <`Jessie> Hi!
[02:05] <`Jessie> Can someone help with this error?
[02:05] <`Jessie> http://pastebin.ca/265136
[02:05] <ompaul> !enter
[02:05] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[02:05] <SilentWarrior> http://pastebin.ca/265132
[02:06] <DjBrix> can anyone help-me
[02:06] <mikedoty> No ... still haven't received any replies to it in the window
[02:06] <oxyd> DjBrix: priv
[02:06] <spx2> ompaul thanks,how long have you beeing using ubuntu , you seem to be pretty aquinted with it :)
[02:06] <Andypat10> how did u id urself or whatever u said
[02:06] <zspada15> `Jessie, what were you trying to do?
[02:06] <ompaul> SilentWarrior, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:06] <mikedoty> I did /msg nickserv identify [mypassword] 
[02:06] <SilentWarrior> :)
[02:06] <launchpad> hey guys is there an apt-get i used to update ubuntu to the latest? im on 5.
[02:06] <launchpad> 10
[02:06] <Plouj> is there a daemon I can restart in order to make a pcmcia card identified after the computer has booted?
[02:06] <`Jessie> zspada15: Play a game! :)
[02:07] <davey486> What should a wep key look like xx.xx.xx.xx..... and does ubuntu support 128bit?
[02:07] <zspada15> `Jessie, do you have the latest version of Java installed?
[02:07] <zspada15> `Jessie, you need the shared object libgtkpeer.so
[02:07] <`Jessie> zspada15: how do I get it?
[02:07] <DjBrix> oxyd: ok!
[02:08] <SilentWarrior> ompaul did that, it installed some stuff, and the problem continues
[02:08] <sudo> hi ho!
[02:08] <NoUse> !upgrade | launchpad
[02:08] <ubotu> launchpad: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:08] <_GM_FrOdO_> where is java?
[02:08] <_GM_FrOdO_> :\
[02:08] <macd> !java
[02:08] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[02:09] <ompaul> SilentWarrior, no a new problem starts  :) paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:09] <_GM_FrOdO_> macd :P
[02:09] <DjBrix> oxyd:  ok ill wait for priv!
[02:09] <spx2> ompaul i cannot find "bum" anywhere,please indicate to me where i can find it
[02:09] <_GM_FrOdO_> it's a user
[02:09] <zspada15> `Jessie, umm, do you know how to use the terminal?
[02:09] <oxyd> DjBrix: im not registred
[02:09] <`Jessie> zspada15: I'm not THAT clueless.
[02:09] <macd> well theres 941 users in here ;P
[02:09] <DjBrix> me neither
[02:09] <zspada15> `Jessie, just checking
[02:09] <oxyd> DjBrix: how its work with ubuntuserver?
[02:09] <_GM_FrOdO_> what I need make for when I start the computer
[02:09] <_GM_FrOdO_> it's ask
[02:09] <gnomefreak> !info bum
[02:09] <ubotu> bum: graphical runlevel editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.7-1 (edgy), package size 80 kB, installed size 524 kB
[02:09] <_GM_FrOdO_> linux or windows?
[02:09] <DjBrix> oxyd join #portugal
[02:09] <gnomefreak> spx2: its in universe repo
[02:10] <oxyd> DjBrix: ok
[02:10] <_GM_FrOdO_> what I make for when I start the computer it ask "windows or linux" ?
[02:10] <_GM_FrOdO_> it ask before but now no o.o
[02:10] <Pelo> _GM_FrOdO_,  your choice, this is a linux channel
[02:10] <spx2> gnomefreak what is that repository URL please
[02:10] <_GM_FrOdO_> Pelo no man.....I have the two in the PC
[02:10] <gnomefreak> !repos | spx2
[02:10] <ubotu> spx2: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:11] <_GM_FrOdO_> but windows is starting without I choice
[02:11] <Pelo> _GM_FrOdO_,  GRUB  then
[02:11] <nickfish03> help, computer will not load ubuntu live cd
[02:11] <_GM_FrOdO_> I'm in windows.....I can't go to linux becouse windows start!
[02:11] <SilentWarrior> ompaul accessing repositories? cant, i am trying to build the driver for the wireless connection, have no other network device for portable pc, and only 1 linux OS
[02:11] <kbrooks> how can i decompress a tar.bz2 stream ?
[02:11] <zspada15> `Jessie, alright, try "sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-common"
[02:11] <ompaul> spx2 sudo apt-get install bum
[02:11] <spx2> ompaul , gnomefreak why does this have to be so hard ? why doesn't it all stay in one repo ?
[02:11] <carlfk> nickfish03, we need more details
[02:12] <_GM_FrOdO_> Pelo I'm in windows.....I can't go to linux becouse windows start!
[02:12] <spx2>  :?
[02:12] <Pelo> _GM_FrOdO_,  you need to install grub.   boot from the ubuntu cd and I think there is an option
[02:12] <NoUse> kbrooks tar jvxf file.tar.bz2
[02:12] <carlfk> _GM_FrOdO_, you will get more help if your nick doesn't require hitting the shift key
[02:12] <gnomefreak> spx2: its not hard. not any harder than windows
[02:12] <nickfish03> carlfk: i've said details before but no one listened, it gets past loading bar, then screen goes black and wont come up again, i am on imac g3
[02:12] <`Jessie> zspada15: I have those already
[02:12] <kbrooks> nouse: a stream
[02:12] <spx2> nickfish03 do you have a laptop ?
[02:12] <ompaul> !components > spx2
[02:12] <spx2> nickfish03 did you poot the boot sequence properly ?
[02:12] <_GM_FrOdO_> carlfk try type _ and hit TAB :P
[02:12] <nickfish03> spx2: imac g3
[02:12] <NoUse> kbrooks tars don't exist in streams
[02:13] <SilentWarrior> !easysource
[02:13] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:13] <senator^> how do I create a bootable floppydisk for ubuntu 6.10? what files do I need and where to find them? please explain in a private message...
[02:13] <carlfk> _GM_FrOdO_, I can't type that without hitting shift
[02:13] <kbrooks> NoUse: dude... in this case, they do
[02:13] <kbrooks> kbrooks@kbrooks-desktop:~$ scp kbrooks@kbrooks.ath.cx:~/svn-config.tar.bz2 - | tar -xzvf -
[02:13] <NoUse> kbrooks ok good luck
[02:13] <nickfish03> spx2: not sure what you mean by that, i have tried boot: default, boot: power-mac, boot: video=ofonly
[02:13] <_GM_FrOdO_> carlfk it's better now?
[02:13] <zspada15> `Jessie, do me a favor and tell me the output of "cd /usr/lib && ls -a | grep libgtk"
[02:13] <nickfish03> spx2: all that seem relevant
[02:13] <james> quick question - is the easiest way to re-encode video for use on the iPod to use "Vive" (http://vive.sourceforge.net/)?
[02:13] <c> :\
[02:14] <SilentWarrior> ompaul any other soluction?
[02:14] <james> and is ipod video functionality going to be integrated into rythmbox / banshee etc. any time soon?
[02:14] <z01dberg> clear
[02:14] <carlfk> nickfish03, mac.  hmm.  given the popularity of linux on mac... better post to the formum or mail list
[02:14] <noelferreira> does anyone knows why firefox won't start
[02:14] <nickfish03> carlfk: ok
[02:14] <carlfk> brfrodo, so whats the problem?
[02:14] <G3N3SIS> How do I open Gnome-Mixer from terminal.  Note, must be from Terminal
[02:15] <brfrodo> carlfk when I start the PC i can't chose....
[02:15] <brfrodo> Windows start directly
[02:15] <brfrodo> :\
[02:15] <brfrodo> but I have ubuntu 6.10 instaled
[02:15] <`Jessie> !java | `Jessie
[02:15] <brfrodo> windows sucks :~~
[02:15] <ubotu> `Jessie: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[02:15] <G3N3SIS> ??
[02:15] <strabes> G3N3SIS: still trying to solve your sound problem?
[02:15] <G3N3SIS> Yeah.
[02:15] <r00t-fck> #looking for help with sftp : how do i upload file to remote server
[02:15] <strabes> =\ sorry
[02:15] <carlfk> brfrodo, oh yeah.  I have a box that somehow hides the grub menu
[02:15] <G3N3SIS> I want to know if I can open Gnome-Mixer from Terminal.
[02:16] <G3N3SIS> I did get a little farther though.
[02:16] <strabes> G3N3SIS: that's good to hear
[02:16] <Pelo> brfrodo,  boot from the ubuntu cd and install GRUB  it's the boot manager that lets you choose
[02:16] <G3N3SIS> This time, I don't hear sound on reboot!
[02:16] <brfrodo> carlfk hm.....
[02:16] <G3N3SIS> Lemme reboot really fast.  Check again, if so, I know what I did.
[02:16] <carlfk> brfrodo, but I can see it if I hit F12 or something to get the box to display 'boot options', I pick HD and then I can see the grub menu
[02:16] <brfrodo> where is this GRUB?
[02:16] <carlfk> brfrodo, first sector of your HD :)
[02:16] <noelferreira> anyone can help me ? firefox won't start in edgy
[02:16] <brfrodo> carlfk ......................
[02:17] <zspada15> !grub| brfrodo
[02:17] <ubotu> brfrodo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:17] <Pelo> SilentWarrior,  put the cd in the drive and install  build essential from synaptic
[02:17] <gnomefreak> carlfk: its a single boot pc that hides grub most of time
[02:17] <brfrodo> zspada15 I don't lost.....
[02:17] <brfrodo> I install ubuntu AFTER
[02:17] <brfrodo> windows..
[02:17] <SilentWarrior> pelo did that, and still no luck
[02:17] <jsf_> Hi guys, i'm trying to install ubuntu on a amd64.. i get some strange error when booting from install-cd about me not having a screen
[02:17] <gleesond> whats the meta pakage for programming basics
[02:17] <jsf_> and then the install reboots
[02:17] <Pelo> SilentWarrior,  http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/ , that link might help
[02:17] <spx2> hey uhm
[02:17] <apokryphos> ubotu: code
[02:17] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[02:18] <carlfk> gnomefreak, that too, but in this case grub is wating for a choice (lin or win) but I can't see the menu unless I dink with the video first
[02:18] <spx2> so ompaul , gnomefreak why can't i use anjuta,kdevelop,eclipse in ubuntu,or if you have had pleasant experiences with those in ubuntu please notify me
[02:18] <crparr> Hi! What is the correct way to set up wlan using wpa2-PSK on my IPW2200 wlan card on Kubuntu 6.10?
[02:18] <brfrodo> $ grub-install /dev/hda0
[02:18] <gnomefreak> spx2: you can
[02:18] <brfrodo> I type it in the terminal and it's all ok?
[02:19] <gnomefreak> spx2: they are all in universe iirc
[02:19] <ompaul> spx2, you can add the multiverse repo and universe ones and bingo
[02:19] <suacy> hey, i compiled the vanilla 2.6.19 in dapper, and i'm trying to get fglrx working. i heard the module-assistant in dapper doesn't support kernels greater than 2.6.18, is this true?
[02:19] <SuperQ> crparr: wpa_supplicant
[02:19] <spx2> ompaul can i have your repo config ?
[02:19] <brfrodo> .....
[02:20] <carlfk> brfrodo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:20] <spx2> ompaul it's really painfull not having a mouse...you feel invalid...
[02:20] <gradin> ...
[02:20] <gnomefreak> spx2: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:20] <hyt640m> hi there - gnome_volume_manager question - in gconf under /apps/desktop/gnome/volume_manager there are settings such as autoplay_dvd_command etc in which you can use escapes like "%h", "%m", "%d" - anyone know where those escapes are documented (apart from the source :-))?
[02:20] <spx2> gnomefreak 6.10
[02:20] <gradin> how do you SSH port forward a port in ubuntu?
[02:20] <brfrodo> carlfk lol
[02:20] <brfrodo> it's not my problem
[02:21] <gradin> i'm having trouble forwarding a port through ssh, can anyone help?
[02:21] <ompaul> spx2, a trip to the shops sorts that
[02:21] <moiqou> Hi! have anyone in here ever got a creative live! motion webcam up and running in ubuntu? could someone help me please, it would be appriciated, thank you...
[02:21] <carlfk> brfrodo, ok.  glad you are on top of it now.
[02:21] <crparr> SuperQ: That's what I'm trying. But I get the error ioctl[IPW_IOCTL_WPA_SUPPLICANT] : Operation not supported Failed to set encryption.
[02:21] <Ultimadark> Hi, Im new to linux, when I try to install Ubuntu 6.10 my screen gets corrupted during the end of the installation. I have a ATI X850XT. Can anyone help me?
[02:21] <brfrodo> carlfk lol
[02:22] <spx2> Ultimadark i have ati radeon 200m here no problem whatsoever
[02:22] <carlfk> brfrodo, what was the problem ?
[02:22] <runtime> Hi, this is somewhat relevant, but what was the result of the SCO 2003 lawsuit?
[02:22] <brfrodo> carlfk I wanna chose linux or windows
[02:22] <brfrodo> but windows start without ask
[02:22] <asjha> anyone know what packages I need to install to get gksudo (or another gui sudo) working on a Dapper Server install that has had xwin and xfce installed
[02:22] <brfrodo> ...........
[02:22] <runtime> brfrodo: linux yo
[02:22] <SuperQ> runtime: it's not over yet :)
[02:22] <brfrodo> this is the problem
[02:22] <redirts> hi, can anyone tell me how to get nvidia 3d going in simply mepis?
[02:22] <moiqou> If you want to give me some help, with info about getting creative! live motion working on my computre, then feel free to start a private chat with me...
[02:22] <brfrodo> runtime 
[02:22] <brfrodo> read all the words :\
[02:22] <SuperQ> crparr: sorry, I've not any WPA2 devices :(
[02:22] <Ultimadark> My screen is fine in the beginning but when the bar is 1 part from being full its stops loading and the screen gets kinda corrupted
[02:22] <spx2> asjha just apt-get install gksudo
[02:22] <DjBrix> where do i change the reposytory of software?
[02:23] <crparr> noproblem.
[02:23] <G3N3SIS> Screw this, if your here strabes, I'm reinstalling.
[02:23] <jsf_> Ultimadark - I have the exact same problem
[02:23] <jsf_> just asked about it too
[02:23] <SuperQ> Ultimadark: are you using the GUI desktop install?
[02:23] <spx2> djbrix that's exactly what i wanted to ask ompaul , gnomefreak
[02:23] <G3N3SIS> I'm tired of this.  Hopefully itt'l work, if not restore w/e I had.  This is just killing me.
[02:23] <Ultimadark> Yes
[02:23] <runtime> SuperQ: I've read this article about it http://tinyurl.com/yxf4dn ,what new developments in this case have occured since then?
[02:23] <gnomefreak> spx2: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35139/
[02:23] <carlfk> brfrodo, so you are having trouble booting.  as in "I can not boot..." I would try SBM
[02:23] <r00t-fck> #looking for help with sftp : how do i upload file to remote server ????
[02:23] <spx2> thank you gnomefreak
[02:23] <gnomefreak> !repos | DjBrix
[02:23] <ubotu> DjBrix: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:23] <r00t-fck> gnomefreak, can you tell me ?
[02:24] <asjha> spx2: "Package gksudo is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[02:24] <SuperQ> runtime: mostly, SCO has lost
[02:24] <DjBrix> !easysource
[02:24] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:24] <gnomefreak> r00t-fck: not without knowing the question
[02:24] <asjha> is the message I get
[02:24] <brfrodo> I wanna chose "linux or windows" when my PC start...but when It start Windows start without ask... WHO CAN HELP ME?
[02:24] <brfrodo> carlfk I don't understand
[02:24] <r00t-fck> gnomefreak,  i post it already . ok posting it again how do i upload file to remote server ????
[02:24] <strabes> asjha: gksudo isn't a package
[02:24] <gnomefreak> r00t-fck: ftp?
[02:24] <strabes> asjha: you use gksudo instead of sudo when you want to run a graphical application with root powers
[02:24] <gnomefreak> r00t-fck: nautilus should work fine
[02:24] <asjha> right
[02:24] <carlfk> brfrodo, make the floppy, boot it, it may let you boot into linux.  if so, you know way more than now
[02:25] <asjha> which is what i want to do
[02:25] <DjBrix> gnomefreak:  the command line please
[02:25] <gnomefreak> DjBrix: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:25] <runtime> SuperQ: who knew, there's even a wikipedia article on it
[02:25] <brfrodo> carlfk what floppy?
[02:25] <jsf_> Ultimadark - what videocard do you have?
[02:25] <SuperQ> runtime: hah
[02:25] <brfrodo> I don't understand your words...
[02:25] <spx2> jsf_ scroll up for the video card
[02:25] <asjha> installed dapper server because of ram/hd space issues.  then installed xwindows and xfce
[02:25] <DjBrix> thanks ;)
[02:26] <Ultimadark> jsf_ - X850XT
[02:26] <runtime> I quote: "The trial is currently scheduled to begin in February 2007."
[02:26] <carlfk> brfrodo, scroll up.  read what people (like me) recomend you read.
[02:26] <r00t-fck> gnomefreak,  shh
[02:26] <r00t-fck> not ftp
[02:26] <jsf_> Ultimadark - i have x700
[02:26] <jsf_> ...
[02:26] <asjha> now, if i want to run a gui app with root powers, i don't have a way to do that other than regular sudo, which isn't a good idea
[02:26] <gnomefreak> r00t-fck: dont know dont use ssh
[02:26] <brfrodo> carlfk ...
[02:26] <Kim^J> mv /dev/kim^j /dev/bed
[02:26] <gnomefreak> often*
[02:26] <nicola> hello guys
[02:26] <Ultimadark> jsf_ - Do u have MSN?
[02:26] <r00t-fck> anyone here who know about ssh?
[02:26] <bubblenut> when I install Postgres on Ubuntu where does it put the data and do I have to modify the permissions?
[02:26] <wraithsoul> hey all
[02:27] <bobbyshafter> hey have anyone tried e17 wm
[02:27] <Kim^J> r00t-fck: Question is?
[02:27] <erflynn> hello i'm having issues with cdrecord
[02:27] <wraithsoul> anyone here have graal online working for their machine?
[02:27] <erflynn> when i do "cdrecord -scanbus" i get cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
[02:27] <jsf_> Ultimadark - i do, but i'm of no help to you
[02:27] <Kim^J> r00t__: Your question about SSH is?
[02:27] <nicola> is there anyway to embed the password in a command ? I mean. if I tipe "sudo synaptic" then it will ask for password, is there anything like sudo synaptic password so that it won't bother me ?
[02:27] <r00t__> Kim^J,  how do i upload file to remote server using gftp mod as ssh2
[02:27] <brfrodo> carlfk you don't help me, you don't understand my problem...
[02:27] <PMantis> For some reason my edgy box starts udev before starting slapd (creates problems). How to fix when using upstart?
[02:27] <Justin_> If I perform all upgrades in Dapper from Synaptic will I have Edgy's LIBC6?
[02:27] <felixhcat> sup?
[02:27] <jsf_> Ultimadark - i have the exact same problem
[02:27] <jastarafi> sup
[02:28] <jastarafi> investigating
[02:28] <Kim^J> r00t__: GFTP is a FTP-client?
[02:28] <erflynn> r00t__: ftp != ssh
[02:28] <Ultimadark> jsf_ - Ok I understand, but if you find a fix to the problem it would be nice if u could tell me on msn ;) or vice versa
[02:28] <SuperQ> erflynn: sftp
[02:28] <SuperQ> erm
[02:28] <SuperQ> r00t__: sftp
[02:28] <blameless> gtp will do sftp though
[02:28] <r00t__> Kim^J,  gftp
[02:28] <Kim^J> r00t__: For filetransfers over SSH use scp /from remote:/target
[02:29] <r00t__> yeah sftp and gftp
[02:29] <blameless> r00t__: gftp has an option in the connection setup to connect using sftp
[02:29] <erflynn> can anyone help me with my question about cdrecord?
[02:29] <Ultimadark> jsf_ - Have you tried to install Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[02:29] <carlfk> brfrodo, got any better things to try?
[02:29] <DjBrix> When i try to install using apt-get install package, i get package2 missing but it is instaled?
[02:29] <felixhcat> that's a secret
[02:29] <brfrodo> carlfk yes ;)
[02:29] <wraithsoul> D:
[02:29] <brfrodo> bb
[02:30] <suacy> hey, i compiled 2.6.19 vanilla in dapper, and i'm having problems getting fglrx to install correctly... i had to modify some stuff to get the module to compile, but it's not installing right, i.e., modprobe says module not found
[02:30] <wraithsoul> what does this meanjessica@jessica:~$ sudo graal
[02:30] <wraithsoul> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
[02:30] <wraithsoul> Direct Rendering is enabled, Graal should run smoothly.
[02:30] <wraithsoul> Processor Init:
[02:30] <wraithsoul>    Intel Pentium 4, 3063 Mhz
[02:30] <wraithsoul>    FPU detected
[02:30] <wraithsoul>    MMX detected
[02:30] <wraithsoul>    SSE detected
[02:30] <wraithsoul> data directory: /usr/share/graal/
[02:30] <wraithsoul> user data directory: /home/jessica/.graal/graal4/
[02:30] <r00t__> blameless,  yeah i am using that
[02:30] <wraithsoul> Scanning folder structure of /usr/share/graal/...
[02:30] <wraithsoul> Scanning folder structure of /home/jessica/.graal/graal4/...
[02:30] <wraithsoul> Done.
[02:30] <wraithsoul> Activating the OpenGL display device (1)...
[02:30] <wraithsoul> Setting screen mode to 640x480x32 (w)...
[02:30] <wraithsoul> % Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[02:30] <wraithsoul> lol
[02:30] <wraithsoul> what is this Segmentation fault?
[02:30] <ArrenLex> !pastebin | wraithsoul
[02:30] <ubotu> wraithsoul: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:30] <PMantis> wraithsoul, There's a place for pasting. *not here* please
[02:31] <wraithsoul> oops
[02:31] <wraithsoul> okay
[02:31] <wraithsoul> Can you still answer my question? ^.^
[02:31] <ArrenLex> wraithsoul: int i; i = "Hello" <--- segfault. It's when you try to access memory you're not allowed to access, or access it in an illegal manner.
[02:31] <wraithsoul> but I used Sudo? :P
[02:32] <fnf> !vmware
[02:32] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[02:32] <miki> from terminal, i wrong and i write "rm *" but i would write "rm *~"... so i have lost all my file... can i recovery???
[02:32] <Ultimadark> jsf_ are u there?
[02:32] <shorty114> is 6 or 8 GB of partition ample for a ubuntu install?
[02:32] <ArrenLex> wraithsoul: No. Like trying to write to read-only memory.
[02:33] <wraithsoul> Okay
[02:33] <ArrenLex> wraithsoul: The program has a bug. Not something you did.
[02:33] <wraithsoul> I know
[02:33] <wraithsoul> I can probably fix it.
[02:33] <SilentWarrior> pelo did that, and still no luck
[02:33] <Toma-> what app could encode a dvd to quicktime?
[02:34] <fnf> miki: I'm aware of some applications that are able to recover deleted files, but ext* partitions are susually no luck.
[02:34] <ArrenLex> miki: on an ext3 system, no.
[02:35] <miki> ok thanks
[02:35] <suacy> compiled a vanilla kernel, custom module problems, anyone got any tips?
[02:35] <root> does anybody knows what's the name of the package which automatic recognizes all the stuff?
[02:35] <borg> i'm glad when i reinstalled ubuntu i chose the i386 version instead of the amd64 version i previously used, now i can use FLASH in my browsers!
[02:36] <r00t__> Kim^J,
[02:36] <r00t__> E1 {14} [Ariel]  pavel:~/eggdrop $ scp /home/r00t-fck/Desktop/eggdrop1/eggdrop.conf eggdrop/eggdrop.conf
[02:36] <r00t__> libtsocks: Unresolved symbol: close
[02:36] <r00t__> cp: accessing `eggdrop/eggdrop.conf': Not a directory
[02:36] <nicola> I'm trying to use the ftp from command line. I swear I read the manual but I coudn't find the way to *move* a file from a remote directory to another (remote directory) any help ?
[02:36] <Ultimadark> Hi, Im new to linux, when I try to install Ubuntu 6.10 my screen gets corrupted during the end of the installation. I have a ATI X850XT. Can anyone help me?
[02:36] <noelferreira> does anyone knows why can't i run firefox and thunderbird?
[02:37] <Tomcat_> noelferreira: How did you try?
[02:37] <Tomcat_> Ultimadark: Corrupted how?
[02:37] <noelferreira> everithing Tomcat_
[02:37] <noelferreira> terminal gets no output
[02:37] <noelferreira> and processes go to sleep Tomcat_
[02:37] <Tomcat_> noelferreira: "everything" explains nothing. ;)
[02:38] <Tomcat_> noelferreira: What version are you using, where did you get them, do you use the terminal or X, on what machine are the apps, ...?
[02:38] <Ultimadark> It gets kind of grainy
[02:38] <noelferreira> reinstall debug erase confimcatg folder Tomcat_
[02:38] <Ultimadark> Tomcat: It gets kind of grainy
[02:38] <ArrenLex> SilentWarrior: You will need the build-essential package and everything it depends on. Without a net connection, that's going to be hard.
[02:38] <noelferreira> edgy Tomcat_
[02:38] <Ultimadark> Tomcat: And the loading bar freezes
[02:38] <Tomcat_> SilentWarrior: If that is a question: You need build-essential. :)
[02:39] <root> does anybody knows what's the name of the package which automatic recognizes all the stuff?
[02:39] <root> like xorg.conf
[02:39] <root> etc.
[02:39] <kbrooks> root: and you'd like to know because?
[02:39] <gnomefreak> away sleeping
[02:40] <root> I don't understand what you mean kbrooks
[02:40] <noelferreira> any ideas Tomcat_?
[02:40] <gnomefreak> !de | Rprp
[02:40] <ubotu> Rprp: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:40] <SilentWarrior> shit, closed cd rom and got my pants stuck on it xD on portable pc
[02:40] <Rprp> umh?
[02:40] <ArrenLex> !language
[02:40] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:40] <Rprp> oh
[02:40] <Rprp> sry :/
[02:40] <Rprp> fucking xchat
[02:40] <Rprp> with ame :p
[02:40] <ArrenLex> Augh.
[02:40] <kbrooks> !language
[02:41] <Linux-Curious> was there a netslpit? cause there are no ops here
[02:41] <root> there are never ops in anywhere
[02:41] <Linux-Curious> oic
[02:41] <midgetg0at> Wine 9.26 seems to have broken my steam install, anyone know about this?
[02:41] <Kim^J> Linux-Curious: Freenode Policy.
[02:41] <kbrooks> Linux-Curious: there ARE ops in here. they're hidden, among the 924 ppl here
[02:41] <Linux-Curious> nice
[02:41] <Linux-Curious> lol
[02:42] <SilentWarrior> ------ is there any console command to get my pants unstuck from the cd bay? got my pants stuck on it on my portable pc :(:(
[02:42] <Linux-Curious> this chan is freaking HUGE
[02:42] <ArrenLex> kbrooks: if you can find one, you can keep him! :)
[02:42] <Tomcat_> SilentWarrior: eject
[02:42] <zero-1> IM getting kernel panic sometimes when I boot my ubuntu box, what can i do? also xorg is freezing or not working sometimes
[02:42] <ArrenLex> SilentWarrior: yes. "eject"
[02:42] <borg> i'm glad when i reinstalled ubuntu i chose the i386 version instead of the amd64 version i previously used, now i can use FLASH in my browsers!
[02:42] <zero-1> can that be because of xgl
[02:42] <midgetg0at> is there an official wine channel?
[02:42] <ozoneco> DSL has an onscreen display for CPU, RAM, time up, etc.....what is that called?
[02:42] <SilentWarrior> makes wierd noise, and nothing happens
[02:42] <nickfish03> i dont need an internet connection to boot ubuntu live do i?
[02:42] <suacy> midgetg0at: #winehq
[02:42] <midgetg0at> ty
[02:42] <Tomcat_> borg: flash is possible in amd64 too, but it's difficult. ;)
[02:42] <r00t__> SuperQ, what is the ssh copy command again ?
[02:42] <SilentWarrior> got it!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:42] <SilentWarrior> hahah
[02:42] <suacy> what is a good graphical diff program?
[02:43] <eq_> anybody know a program to convert .rm files to .3gp for cell phones?
[02:43] <Ultimadark> Tomcat: Do u think that this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190133&highlight=Corrupted+screen could have anything to do with it?
[02:43] <spx2> gnomefreak ?
[02:43] <Tomcat_> Ultimadark: If your symptoms are the same, sure.
[02:44] <SuperQ> r00t__: sftp
[02:44] <midgetg0at> bah, no action at #winehq
[02:44] <spx2> gnomefreak ?
[02:44] <SilentWarrior> any other way to make the "make" command work, have build-essencials
[02:44] <SuperQ> suacy: tkdiff might work
[02:44] <lucas9000> anyone able to get flash working in edgy amd64?
[02:44] <Ultimadark> Tomcat_: Well, theyre not the same but my screen gets grainy at the end of the loading screen and I have a X850XT
[02:44] <r00t__> SuperQ,  its for loading . now how do i copy?
[02:44] <nickfish03> quick question
[02:44] <nickfish03> i dont need an internet connection to boot ubuntu live do i?
[02:45] <kbrooks> Any tips for getting 3d on a Intel 81815 (?) vid card
[02:45] <Tomcat_> lucas9000: It's possible by installing the ia32 libs and installing a 32bit Firefox... more on ubuntuforums or the wiki.
[02:45] <midgetg0at> nick....no, live just means you can use the os while installing.
[02:45] <Tomcat_> nickfish03: Correct.
[02:45] <SuperQ> r00t__: huh?
[02:45] <nickfish03> ok, thank you
[02:45] <r00t__> nothing
[02:45] <SuperQ> r00t__: sftp can work both send and receive
[02:45] <Tomcat_> Ultimadark: Well, you could try the solution from this thread, if there is one.
[02:45] <lucas9000> tomcat: i saw that but wasn't sure if there's a way to do it while staying 64 bit, if you will
[02:46] <G3N3SIS> Guys, I need major help right now. I have seen people being helped for hours, and all I'm asking for is like 5 minutes of attention on my problem.  Can someone please help me get sound?  I
[02:46] <r00t__> SuperQ, but its in terminal . and terminal need command . and what is the command?
[02:46] <G3N3SIS> 'm getting pissed, and I think i'm gonna go to SuSE 10.1
[02:46] <Tomcat_> lucas9000: Sure, but your browser won't be 64 bit... it will be a 32bit browser on a 64bit OS, and so Flash 32bit will run.
[02:46] <kbrooks> Can someone plz gimme some help?
[02:46] <lucas9000> ok ty tomcat
[02:46] <ArrenLex> lucas9000: If you don't want to install 32-bit firefox in a chroot, try nspluginwrapper.
[02:46] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: Well, give us some info. What card, what have you tried, what are the problems?
[02:46] <SuperQ> r00t__: huh?
[02:46] <SuperQ> r00t__: get and put?
[02:46] <lucas9000> arren: i will search the forums for that, ty
[02:46] <noelferreira> can you help me Tomcat_?
[02:47] <G3N3SIS> I am having Sound Problems, can anyone assist me?
[02:47] <kbrooks> G3N3SIS: don't demand help!
[02:47] <SuperQ> r00t__: man sftp
[02:47] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: But then, Open Source is about choice, so if you want to use SuSE, that's your decision. ;)
[02:47] <r00t__> then ?
[02:47] <kbrooks> G3N3SIS: stop repeating. Tomcat_ offered help
[02:47] <G3N3SIS> did he?
[02:47] <r00t__> SuperQ,  then ? i type password
[02:47] <kbrooks> G3N3SIS: yes.
[02:47] <r00t__> then how do i copy
[02:47] <G3N3SIS> Oh didn't see that sorry.
[02:47] <suacy> which is the nicest graphical diff?
[02:47] <SuperQ> r00t__: read the man page
[02:47] <txfirehawk> how do i see the new hard drive i installed?
[02:47] <r00t__> SuperQ,  if you dont know about it its ok
[02:47] <r00t__> what page ?
[02:47] <r00t__> huh?
[02:47] <SuperQ> r00t__: man sftp
[02:48] <lucas9000> exit
[02:48] <G3N3SIS> Alright, well I have a VIA 8237.  It works on XP, fails on Ubuntu.  I love Ubuntu, just I need sound to function.
[02:48] <lucas9000> oops lol
[02:48] <Tomcat_> noelferreira: I still don't know where you got Firefox/Thunderbird and what your console output/problems are...
[02:48] <kbrooks> SuperQ: wrong command
[02:48] <SuperQ> r00t: http://www.eos.ncsu.edu/remoteaccess/man/sftp.html
[02:48] <G3N3SIS> Originally it started by me being able to only hear the tribal sound on login.  Now I can't even hear that.
[02:48] <kbrooks> r00t__: scp is the command. man page: man scp
[02:48] <noelferreira> i just use a fresh edgy install and i get no output Tomcat_
[02:48] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: Settings in Prefs=>Sound correct?
[02:48] <G3N3SIS> I did some file editing, then it stopped, so I replaced those files back to normal how they were before, and I reupdated the modules, downloaded all the GStreamer plugins.
[02:48] <G3N3SIS> It's not picking up my card.
[02:48] <noelferreira> process goest to sleep Tomcat_
[02:49] <SuperQ> kbrooks: either sftp or scp work
[02:49] <G3N3SIS> Though, when I cat /proc/asound/cards it picks it up, and infact tells me exactly what it is.
[02:49] <justin_> Where is the gconf file again? -- /etc/???
[02:49] <SuperQ> kbrooks: the sftp protocol extention is more efficient afaik
[02:49] <G3N3SIS> I can use Alsa, and nothing is muted.  I can't however use Gnome-Mixer
[02:49] <r00t__> kbrooks, i am using put :P
[02:49] <Tomcat_> justin_: ~/.gconf-2 or something. In your home.
[02:50] <r00t__> kbrooks, thanks by the way
[02:50] <r00t__> kbrooks,  Uploading /home/r00t-fck/Desktop/eggdrop1/eggdrop.conf to /home/pavel/eggdrop/[eggdrop.conf] 
[02:50] <r00t__> /home/r00t-fck/Desktop/eggdrop1/eggdrop.conf                                                 0%    0     0.0KB/s - stalled -
[02:50] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: Try cat <somesoundfile> >/dev/dsp... does that get you anything?
[02:50] <SuperQ> hahahaha.. eggie!
[02:50] <SilentWarrior> any other way to make the "make" command work, have build-essencials
[02:50] <G3N3SIS> Would I have to put my file in any special spot?
[02:50] <justin_> Tomcat_: No, I edited something to add XGL and it was in /etc .. but I forget where -- oh my
[02:50] <kbrooks> SuperQ: don't tease him like that
[02:50] <justin_> Because now my X is nothing but gibberish.. heh
[02:50] <eyalw> bye
[02:50] <Tomcat_> justin_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[02:51] <txfirehawk> anyone?  i cant seem to locate my 2nd physical hdd in the gui
[02:51] <Tomcat_> SilentWarrior: make works if you have build-essential
[02:51] <suacy> is there a way to install custom modules without use module-assistant?
[02:51] <ProN00b> is there something like kuake for gnome ?
[02:51] <justin_> Tomcat_: Nope not that either I know where that is.. maybe it is in X11 though,let me see
[02:51] <G3N3SIS> Yeah, it gets me a whole bunch of beeps
[02:51] <SilentWarrior> tomcat_ see the link i gave, maybe its a diferent problem, but i am new and cant get to it
[02:51] <Tomcat_> SilentWarrior: You need the linux-headers-<something> package for that.
[02:51] <r00t__> and file uploaded . thank you pplz
[02:52] <Pelo> SilentWarrior,   you're missing dependecies,   rund ./configure first to know what dependencies you are missing
[02:52] <SilentWarrior> tomcat_  how ?
[02:52] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: Nope, just cat it to the sound device.
[02:52] <justin_> Well.. is there a way to search for files in console?
[02:52] <G3N3SIS> how would I do that?
[02:52] <Tomcat_> SilentWarrior: Download linux-headers-2.6.17-10 and all dependencies, copy it to the machine, install it.
[02:52] <blameless> justin_: locate or find
[02:52] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: As I said, "cat <soundfile> >/dev/dsp"
[02:53] <justin_> blameless: ok
[02:53] <txfirehawk> can anyone help me locate my new hdd?
[02:53] <txfirehawk> i dont see it in the file manager
[02:53] <G3N3SIS> I did that, but I don't hear anything.
[02:54] <kbrooks> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME OUT??????????????/
[02:54] <Tomcat_> txfirehawk: Install gparted and look for it there. You have to put the device into /etc/fstab to see it.
[02:54] <kbrooks> look. i want 3d on my intel 82815. that's all i want.'
[02:54] <Pelo> kbrooks,  someone will help you OUT in a second
[02:54] <G3N3SIS> all it says is root@root - desktop:/home/*****# cat song.wav >/dev/dsp
[02:54] <blameless> why bother?  the 815 is so underpowered anyway
[02:54] <jrib> txfirehawk: is it listed if you type 'sudo fdisk -l'?
[02:54] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: And what output from the sound card?
[02:55] <G3N3SIS> How would I find that out?
[02:55] <Pelo> kbrooks,  what is your problem ?
[02:55] <DevC> AnthonyG still isn't back :o man either he didn't fix it or he is fighting it now :o
[02:55] <SilentWarrior> tomcat_ #   linux-headers-2.6.17-10:
[02:55] <SilentWarrior> Header files related to Linux kernel version 2.6.17
[02:55] <SilentWarrior> This package provides kernel header files for version 2.6.17, for sites that want the latest kernel headers. Please read /usr/share/doc/linux-headers-2.6.17-10/debian.README.gz for details
[02:55] <SilentWarrior>  is this?
[02:55] <Tomcat_> SilentWarrior: Correct.
[02:55] <SilentWarrior> :)
[02:56] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: Turning on the speakers, listen? :)
[02:56] <G3N3SIS> Oh, I don't hear anything when I cat it there
[02:56] <G3N3SIS> Yeah, nothing.
[02:56] <midgetg0at> Apparently some my wine files were f'd up as "sudo wine steam.exe" worked - but i was strongly advised to not run wine as root...so no idea how it got locked down like that, but attempting to just reinstall it all...
[02:57] <suacy> Hey, I am desperately struggling through module problems in a vanilla kernel...
[02:57] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: "ls -l /dev/dsp*" <- Console output for that?
[02:57] <G3N3SIS> k one sec
[02:57] <jsf_> how come my boot cd just stopped working?
[02:57] <jsf_> it doesn't boot any more
[02:58] <jsf_> just does nothing and boots from hd
[02:58] <G3N3SIS> crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2006-12-02 20:35 /dev/dsp
[02:58] <G3N3SIS> that's my text output, no audio out put
[02:58] <G3N3SIS> at the top where the volume control is, it claims that i either don't have all the GStreamer plugins or my device is not detected.
[02:58] <G3N3SIS> I installed all the plugins from Synaptic on GStreamer
[02:59] <G3N3SIS> It isn't detecting my sound card from System<Prefs<Sound either.\
[02:59] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: Try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"... does that do anything?
[02:59] <odat> hi everyone
[02:59] <odat> what the heck is wrong with gnomebaker
[02:59] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: What is the output of "ls -l .as*"?
[02:59] <odat> doesn't burn anything
[02:59] <suacy> module-assistant build fglrx worked (after some changes) and module-assistant install fglrx claims it worked, but there's modprobe doesn't find it, and there's nothing about fglrx in /lib/modules... would there be a problem copying the files in there manually, and updating modules.dep to mirror the equivalent line in my fglrx-working kernel?
[02:59] <G3N3SIS> Reading package lists... Done
[02:59] <G3N3SIS> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:59] <G3N3SIS> ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[02:59] <G3N3SIS> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:00] <G3N3SIS> That's the output
[03:00] <apokryphos> G3N3SIS: please don't paste in here
[03:00] <G3N3SIS> k sorry
[03:01] <G3N3SIS> Ideas Tomcat?
[03:01] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: As I said... what's the output of "ls -l ~/.as*"?
[03:02] <SilentWarrior> tomcat_ finally some progress, same error but this time says Error 1 instead of Error 2
[03:02] <robotgeek> hmm, does anyone know offhand how to fix the "sudo timestamp too far in future" problem
[03:02] <G3N3SIS> no such file or directory
[03:02] <G3N3SIS> under ls: /root/.as*
[03:02] <SilentWarrior> tomcat_ lets get to Error 0 shall we ?
[03:02] <Tomcat_> SilentWarrior: Any output?
[03:02] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: Don't do it as root... use your normal user, or use "ls -l /home/<youruser>/.as*"
[03:02] <SilentWarrior> tomcat_ rt2570.ko failed to build
[03:03] <G3N3SIS> k
[03:03] <adil> sup guys
[03:03] <SilentWarrior> tomcat_ and [module]  Error 1
[03:03] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: What kind of card is it? brand, type?
[03:03] <Tomcat_> SilentWarrior: Nothing else in the output? No warnings or errors?
[03:04] <ProN00b> is there something like kuake for gnome ?
[03:04] <Tomcat_> robotgeek: Try sudo -K
[03:04] <Tomcat_> ProN00b: What is kuake?
[03:04] <SilentWarrior> tomcat_ nope, just the same as before (http://pastebin.ca/265132) with error beeing Error 1
[03:04] <G3N3SIS> No such file or directory.
[03:04] <britt> guys, on a terminal, how do i get a console (like tty3) to login automatically?
[03:04] <G3N3SIS> As my self.
[03:04] <britt> is it in inittab?
[03:05] <britt> or event.d
[03:05] <ProN00b> Tomcat_, apt-get it
[03:05] <Tomcat_> SilentWarrior: Mh... you might need the linux-source-2.6.17 package as well.
[03:05] <G3N3SIS> Hey pro, do you think you could also be of assitance?
[03:05] <SilentWarrior> tomcat_ can i get that in the ubuntu cd ?
[03:05] <G3N3SIS> My sound card isn't working in Ubuntu, but it works in windows.  I'm not even allowed into Gnome-Mixer
[03:05] <Tomcat_> ProN00b: Heh... nice. But I don't know about such an app.
[03:06] <Tomcat_> SilentWarrior: Probably, yes.
[03:06] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: brand, model of sound card?
[03:06] <G3N3SIS> VIA, 8237
[03:07] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: Does "lspci" list something that looks like your sound card?
[03:07] <G3N3SIS> Supported under Southbridge category and it would be sudo modprobe snd-via82xx.
[03:07] <G3N3SIS> Yes, it does.
[03:07] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: "lsmod | grep snd-via82xx" <-- output of that?
[03:07] <G3N3SIS> It lists my multimedia Audio controller
[03:07] <Jin> just a quick question, is updating the kernel in Ubuntu a difficult process?
[03:07] <ArrenLex> Jin: No.
[03:08] <Tomcat_> Jin: If you're using the official repositories, no. Else, kind of. :)
[03:08] <G3N3SIS> No output
[03:08] <G3N3SIS> just goes to next line in terinal
[03:08] <robotgeek> Tomcat_: hmm, i was debugging a question for my friend over the phone, it did not work in the same terminal. it worked when he opened another terminal.
[03:08] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: "sudo modprobe snd-via82xx"
[03:08] <errorlevel> I'm trying to install ubuntu from within Gentoo.  I can't get debootstrap to build, though since I don't have dpkg and other debian utilities.
[03:08] <G3N3SIS> same thing. next line.
[03:08] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: Try "cat <soundfile> >/dev/dsp" again.
[03:09] <Tomcat_> robotgeek: So, is it fixed? You usually need a terminal with sudo capabilities, but I'm not so sure about that...
[03:09] <G3N3SIS> This time no mad beepage, but it's stil quiet
[03:10] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: Mad beepage? Did you forget the '>' symbol before "/dev/dsp"?
[03:10] <robotgeek> Tomcat_: yes, i had suggested the same thing to him, but it did not kill the timestamp till he opened another window
[03:10] <G3N3SIS> nope, it's there
[03:10] <SilentWarrior> tomcat_ cant find it on cd nor the net, only other stuff related to it
[03:10] <Ron> hey guy
[03:10] <Ron> s
[03:10] <Tomcat_> SilentWarrior: It's available in my install... should be somewhere...
[03:10] <Ron> I'd like to disable CPU freq. scaling when on AC power, any clues
[03:10] <Ron> ?
[03:10] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: "lsmod | grep snd-via" again?
[03:11] <BadKitty> Hi folks!
[03:11] <SilentWarrior> tomcat_ in mine too, but it needs to download off the net, and i dont have net on that pc
[03:11] <SilentWarrior> tomcat_ i am trying to install the net card drivers xD
[03:11] <Tomcat_> SilentWarrior: In that case, find the file, download it somewhere else and then copy it over... no other way. :)
[03:11] <BadKitty> Does anyone know if a belkin router would keep a log file about who had logged into the router?
[03:12] <Pelo> Ron,  I assume you checked the power management options in system > admin ?   then check the forum
[03:12] <G3N3SIS> Yup, nothing Tomcat_
[03:12] <Tomcat_> BadKitty: Check the web interface, shouldn't it have some option for that?
[03:12] <minerale> what's the default audio device in ubuntu? "Alsa", "esd", "oss" ?
[03:12] <Pelo> minerale,  alsa
[03:12] <con-man> om
[03:12] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: "sudo modprobe -v snd-via82xx", output?
[03:12] <BadKitty> Tomcat: No i can't find it
[03:13] <Tomcat_> minerale: esd I think.
[03:13] <con-man> i am unable to install ati drivers on edgy. it keeps saying unknown architecture
[03:13] <BadKitty> It has a list of CURRENT users, but not a log that I can see
[03:13] <Tomcat_> BadKitty: In that case, I guess not. ;)
[03:13] <Tomcat_> con-man: Are you using the official packages?
[03:13] <G3N3SIS> Nothing TC
[03:13] <con-man> the one off of ati's website
[03:13] <Tomcat_> !ati | con-man
[03:13] <ubotu> con-man: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:13] <justin_> Where can I see a list of XORG errors? -- where is the log file?
[03:14] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: :-( Sorry, I'm out of ideas now... it should load the driver, but it doesn't... it doesn't say what's wrong... weird.
[03:14] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: Try "dmesg | grep snd-via"...
[03:14] <minerale> pelo: where can I read about the difference of the video outputs: "X11, xv, gl"
[03:15] <G3N3SIS> nothing.
[03:15] <Pelo> minerale,  I do not know
[03:15] <Jural> Question for forcing transparency on a window with beryl what do I use, I belive XGL b4 was alt+scrollwheel
[03:15] <con-man> thanks ubotu
[03:15] <con-man> i <3 bots
[03:15] <Tomcat_> G3N3SIS: Sorry then... no idea. :\
[03:15] <G3N3SIS> screw this, i'm gonna attempt a reinstall.
[03:15] <Tomcat_> Jural: Same, Alt+Scroll
[03:15] <G3N3SIS> If that fails well ugh
[03:15] <justin_> So does anyone know where X's logfile is kept? -- for a specific user..
[03:15] <jerp> justin, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bugs
[03:16] <SilentWarrior> i think i might just crash ubuntu, wtf
[03:16] <justin_> jerp: That is X bugs
[03:16] <justin_> :P
[03:16] <Tomcat_> justin_: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:16] <justin_> ahhh
[03:16] <Pelo> justin_ there is a logviewer in the admin menu
[03:16] <justin_> thanks Tomcat_
[03:16] <Tomcat_> justin_: Xorg runs on root, so it will be only there.
[03:16] <justin_> Pelo: Would be nice if I could actually see it, I can't actually get into X :)
[03:16] <Tomcat_> justin_: Look for (EE) lines in there... that will show what's wrong.
[03:17] <minerale> where can I read about the difference of the video outputs: "X11, xv, gl"
[03:17] <minerale> (just trying to decide what settings to put for mplayer )
[03:17] <Pelo> minerale,  the setting for what y ou are using , most likely  X11
[03:18] <Pelo> justin_,    /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:19] <G3N3SIS> Tomcat_ still there?  I'm in the install live cd and I hear sound perfectly fine.
[03:19] <G3N3SIS> I think it was just an install error / bug.
[03:20] <G3N3SIS> I should get to reinstalling now, to enjoy Linux in it's prime!
[03:21] <justin_> "attempting to re-init radeon hardware" and "insufficient" memory for hardare cursor.. when I try to run Beryl, it flash like 2 times and goes right back to GDM.. :( -- the info for the "re-init radeon" is "II" and "WW" for the mouse problem ... what could it be?
[03:22] <racarter> how do you add a samba share?
[03:23] <britt> 'smbmount //SERVER/share /media/foo'
[03:23] <Pelo> justin_,  sound like a problem for  #xgl
[03:23] <killown> how I do to enable direct render for may card fx500 ?
[03:24] <knight> hi how can i reduce in any application without reducing system sound?
[03:24] <SpacePuppy> killown: is that a gforce card?
[03:24] <justin_> knight: If you take down master sound with all apps, it is probably set to OSS instead of ALSA..
[03:24] <SilentWarrior> tomcat_ hi, downloaded, installed, now it gives the error i had before, the number 2.... Error 2
[03:24] <killown> SpacePuppy yes
[03:24] <knight> justin_, ok
[03:25] <SpacePuppy> !nvidia
[03:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:25] <sigp239> my sound is messed up.  sounds stutter on an on forever.
[03:25] <sigp239> how do I fix it?
[03:25] <txfirehawk> how do i give vncserver a password for remote login?
[03:25] <hybrid> txfirehawk: it should be your user login
[03:26] <Tomcat_> SilentWarrior: Sorry, no idea... maybe there's info in the READMEs that came with the source, but it should work somehow...
[03:26] <txfirehawk> let me try, thank you
[03:26] <ski-worklap> wtf, totem can't play an mp3 i give it, says it doesn't have the necessary codecs?
[03:26] <Tomcat_> !codecs | ski-worklap
[03:26] <ubotu> ski-worklap: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:26] <hybrid> ski-worklap: yeah check out easy ubuntu
[03:26] <hybrid> Tomcat_: +1
[03:26] <DarkED> Uh, hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu and when i use partition magic to resize my ntfs partition it gives me "Too many errors" and won't do the resize
[03:26] <justin_> Last small question..
[03:27] <BadKitty> DarkED: Is there anything on the drive that you must keep?
[03:27] <DarkED> So i did a chkdsk and it found a bunch of errors and fixed them. goody. so i tried pm again and it gave the same error...
[03:27] <justin_> Do you need compiz to use Beryl? - or does XGL work regardless of which one you choose?
[03:27] <DarkED> BadKitty: yep, LOTS of stuff =/.
[03:27] <SilentWarrior> anyone has wireless usb card running on ubuntu ?
[03:27] <chris_> can anyone help me with an ntfs problem?
[03:27] <sigp239> why do sounds mess-up sometimes?  like there will be a desktop beep or whatever, but it will keep repeating over and over again/
[03:27] <knight> justin_, but it doesnt work
[03:27] <hybrid> SilentWarrior: which card?
[03:27] <ski-worklap> hybrid, why would i use totem when mplayer supports justabout everything? (not a flame, just curious)(
[03:27] <nolimitsoya> !wifi | SilentWarrior
[03:27] <DarkED> BadKitty: i would back it up, but i simply dont have the DVD's or the space on my external to backup over 20gig
[03:27] <ubotu> SilentWarrior: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:27] <hybrid> chris_: if you ask
[03:27] <knight> justin_, could you tell how to do?
[03:27] <nolimitsoya> !anyone | SilentWarrior
[03:27] <ubotu> SilentWarrior: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:27] <BadKitty> DarkED: Well thats no good. My only suggestion is to copy your information to another disk, and then zero out your drive, reinstall and then copy back over
[03:28] <hybrid> ski-worklap: you asked, i preffer mplayer as well, compiled but thats me
[03:28] <BadKitty> DarkEd: Yah thats a problem
[03:28] <britt> i need for a console, like tty4 (or ttyS1) to automatically login
[03:28] <DarkED> BadKitty: so i should just copy everything and pop the windows disc in and deep format it?
[03:28] <ski-worklap> hybrid, right, thanks
[03:28] <ski-worklap> hmm, is there no w32codecs package for ubuntu?
[03:28] <hybrid> britt: change your run level to 3
[03:28] <britt> is there anyway i can do that in /etc/event.d (i use upstart)
[03:28] <hybrid> ski-worklap: ppc or x86?
[03:28] <ski-worklap> (even in multiverse)
[03:28] <ski-worklap> x86
[03:28] <SilentWarrior> thing is...cant solve the problem for the general question, so, would ask for the especific one from someone who already installed same driver has i need to install
[03:28] <BadKitty> DarkED. I think you may have to actually zero out your disk. Is it a WD, Maxtor, Seagate?
[03:28] <DarkED> hmm well okay, if its bad sectors will a low-lvl format help that?
[03:28] <hybrid> ski-worklap: there should be
[03:29] <knight> justin_, ive changed setting to alsa in xmms and mplayer still if i change sound of one other is affected
[03:29] <DarkED> BadKitty
[03:29] <britt> hybrid: in the indivdual entry for the console, i didnt know each console could change runlevels
[03:29] <DarkED> sorry...
[03:29] <ski-worklap> i get "it's referred to by another package, but has no installation candidate"
[03:29] <txfirehawk> hybrid,   - no dice, i tried my user password
[03:29] <ski-worklap> which is weird
[03:29] <DarkED> BadKitty: its a laptop drive, 60gig Hitachi/IBM travelstar
[03:29] <SilentWarrior> hybrid conceptronics 54 mb usb adapter
[03:29] <sigp239> why do sounds mess-up sometimes?  like there will be a desktop beep or whatever, but it will keep repeating over and over again/
[03:29] <jrib> !w32codecs | ski-worklap
[03:29] <ubotu> ski-worklap: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:29] <hybrid> britt: i thought you meant you wanted to login to cli, my bad
[03:29] <jrib> ski-worklap: seveas' repository has w32codecs
[03:30] <jrib> !seveas > ski-worklap
[03:30] <BadKitty> DarkED: I'm not too sure... you could try a deeper format, but it may have to be zeroed :-(
[03:30] <claudio> algum brasileiro????
[03:30] <hybrid> !ndiswrapper | SilentWarrior
[03:30] <ubotu> SilentWarrior: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:30] <DarkED> BadKitty: how do I 'zero' a drive?
[03:30] <errorlevel> Woo!  I'm getting debootstrap to work from within Gentoo. =)  It tooks some editting of its Makefile and an altered MAKEDEV script from an existing Debian installation to do it, but it is working. =)
[03:30] <jrib> !br | claudio
[03:30] <ubotu> claudio: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:30] <claudio> brazileiro
[03:30] <ski-worklap> jrib, i have seveas's repo in my sources.list
[03:30] <chris_> hybrid: my slave ntfs drive is known as hdb, but when i try to mount it, it says invalid argument?
[03:30] <hybrid> SilentWarrior: read up on ndiswrapper and it should work out
[03:30] <matthew_> disk kill or killdisk...something like that will zero out your drive and then write randomness over the zeroes
[03:30] <hybrid> chris_: how are you mounting i?
[03:31] <jrib> ski-worklap: which sections?
[03:31] <BadKitty> DarkED. I'v only had to do it a few times. My disc came with a disk to do it. it was Maxblast for a maxtor drive... there should be some different software for you IBM disk
[03:31] <ski-worklap> ah
[03:31] <chris_> hybrid: i've tried both ntfsmount and the built in ubuntu mount
[03:31] <ski-worklap> jrib, yeah i just had the one for flash, changing to all. thankx
[03:31] <DarkED> BadKitty: Oh... nah, this drive came with my laptop, so I didn't get a cd for it... crap
[03:31] <jrib> ski-worklap: np
[03:31] <sigp239> why do sounds mess-up sometimes?  like there will be a desktop beep or whatever, but it will keep repeating over and over again/
[03:31] <DarkED> See, this is why I hate linux on laptops, its a complete crapshoot
[03:31] <ankan_> excuse me....how do I get my dapper to work with my new Samsung Digimax digital camera...when I connect it...it tries to load up its own drivers but gives an error - An error occurred in the io-library ('Unspecified error'): Could not query kernel driver of device.
[03:32] <DarkED> if your laptop came with xp yer pretty much screwed...
[03:32] <BadKitty> DarkED: Well you might try a full reformat that could work too, did you just to a quick format/
[03:32] <hybrid> chris_: is it in your fstab?
[03:32] <loxety> greetings
[03:32] <DarkED> BadKitty: last time I reinstalled XP i didnt even do a format, just reinstalled over the old XP to keep files...
[03:32] <Pelo> ankan_,  look up your camera model number in the forum, someone may already have posted a solution
[03:32] <BadKitty> DarkED: Nah mine came with winXp and it worked great... actually my laptop just got stolen
[03:33] <DarkED> BadKitty: im sorry to hear that for you, my GOOD laptop just died so i know how you are feeling =(
[03:33] <chris_> hybrid: how do i go about finding that? im new at viewing ntfs on linux
[03:33] <knight> do any1 know how to change sound of apps without affecting other?
[03:33] <BadKitty> DarkED: does the drive still boot though
[03:33] <ankan_> Pelo: i will try that..thnks
[03:33] <DarkED> BadKitty: Yep, im in winxp on this drive right now
[03:33] <DarkED> everything seems to work a-ok
[03:33] <DarkED> im doin a defrag now, figured that might help
[03:33] <DarkED> but i dont know
[03:34] <hybrid> !partitions | chris_
[03:34] <ubotu> chris_: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[03:34] <BadKitty> DarkED: ok you probably won't have to zero it then... I'd do a full format though
[03:34] <DarkED> BadKitty: okay... I guess ill try that... um... oh noes
[03:34] <knight> hi can any1 tell how to change sound of apps without affecing other apps?
[03:34] <DarkED> BadKitty: lol I dont have my xp disc anymore hahaha
[03:34] <loxety> Ive got 6.10 amd64 installed on my pentium D and getting some strange things going on.. when I go to the term to execute a program I get "-bash: ./programx: No such file or directory"
[03:34] <BadKitty> DarkED: Yah just ....thats no good
[03:34] <root> wow..
[03:35] <root> How I get back my Xserver?
[03:35] <root> apt-get install ?
[03:35] <DarkED> BadKitty: okay, this might be a stretch :D um... i told you my laptop died, so i bought this old laptop for 50 bucks and fixed the cdrom. me and my mom kinda share it
[03:35] <matthew_> root, try starx
[03:35] <matthew_> root, try startx
[03:35] <root> matthew_: It's gone I removed the thing.
[03:35] <hybrid> root: try typing in 'startx'
[03:35] <root> i did
[03:35] <loxety> when doing a ls -la it shows the program as executable
[03:35] <root> It's gone as in off the disk
[03:35] <matthew_> root, what thing?
[03:35] <hybrid> root: apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[03:35] <G3N3SIS> I DID IT!!!
[03:35] <G3N3SIS> REINSTALL FTW!!!
[03:35] <chris_> ubotu: i dont have a Disks in system > admin >
[03:35] <matthew_> root, omg, the xserver?
[03:35] <root> hybrid: thank you
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i dont have a Disks in system > admin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <root> matthew_: yes sir
[03:35] <root> :D
[03:36] <matthew_> chris_, ubotu is a bot
[03:36] <loxety> am trying out the folding at home 64bit linux client
[03:36] <DarkED> well nevermind... the sprint aircard probably wont work with it anyway
[03:36] <doobledilly> howdy, is there a way to detect which driver i should be using for my sound, heres what lspci -v shows http://pastebin.us/9266
[03:36] <chris_> >< lol thanks matthew
[03:36] <LadyNikon> heh
[03:36] <r00t__> can anyone help me dcc chat?
[03:36] <matthew_> root, I would say...damn, just...reinstall the os...maybe apt-get install xorg
[03:36] <BadKitty> DarkED: You might get it to work with wine... you never know
[03:36] <DarkED> Well I'm gonna defrag this drive then chkdsk /f again and see what happens
[03:36] <matthew_> not sure about that one
[03:36] <r00t__> oops wrong window :P
[03:37] <DarkED> BadKitty: Well it'd have to be a linux driver wouldnt it?
[03:37] <DarkED> BadKitty: its an evdo card...
[03:37] <matthew_> chris_, no prob, I had the same problem...
[03:37] <chris_> matthew: hehe :P
[03:37] <BadKitty> DarkED: Dunno, I'm sure other people have thought of it alread and theres probably a solution somewhere, don't give up so easyily
[03:37] <knight> hi can any1 help me... i want to change sound of apps without affecting sound of other apps like mplayer ,xmms
[03:37] <BadKitty> Darked: Gotta go though, good luck man
[03:37] <zoidberg> hey guys
[03:37] <cbruno> \join #cedarlug
[03:37] <zoidberg> quick question...how do u run .sh files in the terminal?
[03:38] <hybrid> zoidberg: ./file.sh
[03:38] <doobledilly> ./filename
[03:38] <zoidberg> thanx
[03:38] <DarkED> okay, thanks
[03:38] <chris_> hybrid: where can i view my partitions?
[03:38] <hybrid> chris_: gparted will show them
[03:38] <chris_> hybrid: oh okay, thanks
[03:39] <plesnivyjano> hello all, is it possible to connct from ubuntu to windows xp remote desktop ??
[03:39] <justin_> hybrid: I just wanted to let you know I love you
[03:39] <justin_> :P
[03:39] <hybrid> plesnivyjano: yes use samba
[03:39] <hybrid> justin_: umm ok
[03:39] <nolimitsoya> samba does remote desktop? o.O
[03:39] <spx2> plesnivyjano possible,but not probable...
[03:39] <justin_> My x is back.. yay
[03:39] <spx2> :D
[03:39] <justin_> <-- root :P
[03:39] <hybrid> oh remotre
[03:39] <hybrid> d'oh
[03:39] <superchode|fu> lol
[03:39] <matthew_> justin_, yay!
[03:40] <hybrid> plesnivyjano: never mind, use vnc
[03:40] <matthew_> justin_, so happy for you! sincerely.
[03:40] <zoidberg> guys its not working....its says" zoidberg@zoidberg:~/pandora$ ./pandora.sh
[03:40] <zoidberg> bash: ./pandora.sh: Permission denied
[03:40] <zoidberg> zoidberg@zoidberg:~/pandora$ sudo ./pandora.sh
[03:40] <zoidberg> sudo: ./pandora.sh: command not found
[03:40] <zoidberg> zoidberg@zoidberg:~/pandora$
[03:40] <zoidberg> "
[03:40] <nolimitsoya> !pastebin
[03:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:40] <hybrid> zoidberg: sudo -i
[03:40] <spx2> zoidberg cut that stuff,use a pastebin
[03:40] <plesnivyjano> hybrid i mean i`ll be able to visualy see windows desktop from ubuntu remote computer right?
[03:40] <hybrid> zoidberg: then ./file.sh
[03:40] <zoidberg> sorry
[03:40] <hybrid> plesnivyjano: with vnc yes
[03:40] <hybrid> plesnivyjano: you need a vnc client for ubuntu and vnc server for xp
[03:41] <hybrid> plesnivyjano: quick google with provide both
[03:41] <Kervan> Can i delete from NTFS disk or can i write To NTFS disk?
[03:41] <plesnivyjano> hybrid, thanx..vnc
[03:41] <nolimitsoya> Kervan, with ntfs-3g you get read and write support for ntfs
[03:41] <hybrid> Kervan: technically, yes, but it isnt too safe
[03:41] <loxety> anyone here using folding at home client on 64bit systems?
[03:41] <yerbestfrend12> hi
[03:41] <matthew_> justin_, I was serious...
[03:41] <nolimitsoya> Kervan, still a bit scetchy though...
[03:42] <nolimitsoya> Kervan, if you are looking for a way to share files with windows id suggest making a ext2/3 partition, and install ext2ifs for windows
[03:43] <zoidberg> hybrid: i did sudo -i, and now i'm root@zoidberg and i then type ./pandora.sh and it says "-bash: ./pandora.sh: No such file or directory
[03:43] <zoidberg> "
[03:43] <hybrid> zoidberg: cd /home/username
[03:43] <nolimitsoya> zoidberg, is -x bit set?
[03:43] <hybrid> ./file.sh
[03:43] <hybrid> nolimitsoya: +1
[03:43] <Kervan> nolimitsoya: i am using fat32 to share
[03:43] <nolimitsoya> zoidberg, chmod +x <filename>
[03:45] <zoidberg> hybrid: it says permission not allowed still
[03:45] <zoidberg> nolimitsoya: do i have to copy the .sh file to a particular directory before i chmod it?
[03:45] <justin_> Wow..
[03:45] <nolimitsoya> zoidberg, no
[03:45] <justin_> X is way faster now that I have re-installed ubuntu-desktop..
[03:46] <matthew_> justin_, were you using kde before?
[03:46] <justin_> Well anyways, if anyone has a Radeon 7000... spare yourself headaches and stay away from Beryl :P
[03:46] <nolimitsoya> justin_, that sound weird... sure you wherent just missing the right driver?
[03:46] <justin_> matthew_: No, Gnome
[03:46] <hybrid> OMG UCLA WON!
[03:46] <zoidberg> nolimitsoya: so what do i have to do again....chmod +x pandora.sh....then ./pandora?
[03:46] <nolimitsoya> zoidberg, yes
[03:46] <matthew_> justin_, so, what DE are you using now?
[03:46] <justin_> nolimitsoya: No apt-get replaced something the wrong way mesa-srawst or something
[03:46] <justin_> matthew_: Gnome :D
[03:47] <matthew_> justin_, so...why is it faster?
[03:47] <justin_> Apps start in 1 second compared to 8-9
[03:47] <nolimitsoya> justin_, that mesa stuff is software opengl. no wonder its slow ;)
[03:47] <dee7o> hey guys it's my first day using ubuntu and for some reason i have no sound. i think my dvd drive isn't working either
[03:47] <zoidberg> nolimitsoya: i did that and i get this error "-bash: ./pandora.sh: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory"
[03:47] <matthew_> justin_, lol
[03:47] <dee7o> can anyone give me a hand because i am totally unfamiliar with it
[03:47] <justin_> So yeah umm Radeon 7000 people, stay away from Beryl :D
[03:47] <matthew_> dee7o, what can I do you for
[03:47] <justin_> now.. im going to worship my X
[03:47] <nolimitsoya> zoidberg, then im of in the deep end :)
[03:47] <dee7o> hi
[03:47] <justin_> thanks guys.
[03:48] <matthew_> dee7o, hello...what's the problem?
[03:48] <Lam_> !newsgroup
[03:48] <ubotu> There are Ubuntu newsgroups via NNTP at news.gmane.org
[03:48] <dee7o> matthew as i tell u i can get my sound card working and i think my dvd drive might also be undetected
[03:48] <zoidberg> hybrid:i still cant get the .sh file to run
[03:48] <matthew_> dee7o, bad soundcard, hmm?
[03:48] <hybrid> hmm weird
[03:48] <dee7o> i am using a virtual machine to run the os but i dont know if that could be a problem
[03:49] <zoidberg> hybrid: i did sudo -i, and i did ./file.sh and it says no permission
[03:49] <dee7o> the sound is still working fine on my host os
[03:49] <hybrid> brb i need to find my cell
[03:49] <matthew_> dee7o, are you using qemu or what?
[03:49] <nolimitsoya> dee7o, that could be it :)
[03:49] <G3N3SIS> Anyone without sound ?
[03:49] <G3N3SIS> I think I know your answer!
[03:49] <G3N3SIS> It works for me now so.
[03:49] <dee7o> i actually dont know what qemu is sorry
[03:49] <matthew_> dee7o, nolimitsoya has it right
[03:49] <nolimitsoya> dee7o, boot the live cd and see if it works :)
[03:49] <billytwowilly> If I want dpkg to try and fix partially installed packages how do I do that?
[03:49] <dee7o> i did that too
[03:49] <dee7o> no sound :)
[03:49] <Lam_> what's a good newsgroups client? preferably one that is QT based, but doesn't have to be
[03:50] <matthew_> billytwowilly, sudo dpkg --configure -a?
[03:50] <dee7o> and i cant mount anything to the dvd drive
[03:50] <matthew_> billytwowilly, w/o the question mark....
[03:50] <matthew_> billytwowilly, not totally sure about that, though
[03:50] <billytwowilly> matthew_: that appears to be it. thanks.
[03:50] <jack|ass> If I try to run a 32-bit app on a 64-bit kernel, what is likely to happen?
[03:51] <jack|ass> is it going to run properly, just in 32-bit mode?   Or am I better off staying with 32-bit kernel if that's what the majority of my applications run in?
[03:51] <dee7o> when i come to click on the top right sound icon it tells me gstreamer and/or devices not found
[03:51] <matthew_> billytwowilly, no prob
[03:52] <dee7o> ?
[03:52] <billytwowilly> how do I unlock /var/cache/debconf/config.dat ?
[03:52] <nolimitsoya> jack|ass, id say stick with 32bit if you want averything to be as smooth as possible :)
[03:52] <Dreamglider> and again, when i play videos in fullscreen i get a lot of horisontal lines, this is only in fullscreen mode. laptop is Intel P4 3GHz, 1gb ram, and GeForce FX Go6500 grapic card. can anyone assist?
[03:52] <ethos_> Anybody have experience enableing s-video output on a thinkpad T23 laptop?
[03:52] <matthew_> billytwowilly, you're gonna have to ask someone else for that one...I've got no idea...:)
[03:52] <jack|ass> nolimitsoya: heh.  I've just gotg an AMD64 that never gets run out of 32-bit mode. :)  But i'm not using more than 3 gigs of memory so...
[03:53] <txfirehawk> anyone know why I do not have preferences under >System??
[03:53] <jerp> txfire, have you checked your menu editor?
[03:54] <ethos_> How about specifically applying a patch file?
[03:54] <asjha> hooray!  I found out how to install gksudo.  The package is gksu
[03:54] <zspada15> !ipod
[03:54] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[03:54] <jerp> right click on "application" in the deskbar
[03:54] <knight> how to change sound of applications without affcting other apps?
[03:54] <jerp> "edit menus"
[03:55] <txfirehawk> ok i will look ty
[03:55] <knight> what is OSS?
[03:55] <jerp> highlight system and look in the right pane and see if Prefs is checked
[03:56] <superchode|fu> after sudo -i, how do you get back to the user prompt instead of root prompt?
[03:56] <zspada15> Dreamglider, a 3 ghz laptop?
[03:57] <Dreamglider> zspada15, yea!
[03:57] <jerp> super, uhh, close that term and open another
[03:57] <ethos_> thats quite the laptop
[03:57] <superchode|fu> i c
[03:57] <zspada15> Dreamglider, does that thing ever burn your lap?
[03:57] <Dreamglider> 3.06GHz
[03:57] <dee7o> ?
[03:57] <txfirehawk> jerp i do not see much in this editor
[03:57] <Elda> Hello
[03:57] <Dreamglider> burn my laptop!
[03:57] <jerp> many times an install could call for multiple terminals
[03:57] <zspada15> Dreamglider, no your lap
[03:57] <Elda> Why wuld you want to do that :s
[03:58] <Dreamglider> oh
[03:58] <Elda> *would
[03:58] <Dreamglider> hehe
[03:58] <Dreamglider> well it can get hot belive me,
[03:58] <jerp> txfire, on the left at the bottom highlight system
[03:58] <zspada15> my 1.6 ghz laptop gets hot, but a 3 ghz must be burning
[03:58] <jerp> look in the right pane and see if prefs is checked
[03:58] <Elda> It does get warm if you dont give it space
[03:58] <hybrid> back
[03:58] <Dreamglider> Elda, indeed
[03:58] <loxety> http://forum.folding-community.org/ftopic16904.html fah5 will not execute on 64bit system  *ANSWER*
[03:59] <Elda> If I had it flat it would over heat and shut off -_-
[03:59] <Elda> or if I didnt give the fans clearance
[03:59] <bonggnu> hi, dpkg cant process heroes-common http://pastebin.com/837897
[03:59] <ethos_> This is my dilemma:  I follow the instructions here: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/S3switch#Usage and it says to apply this patch because yes I get the segmentation fault.  It doesn't say how to apply the patch though, it looks like code to me.  I'm relatively new to Linux.
[04:00] <txfirehawk> jerp that is what I am looking for. there is nothing called prefs on the menu  =/   I am using xforce, would that be the problem?
[04:00] <Elda> Ive a question... anyone here with a ati igp 345m in their laptop?
[04:00] <Dreamglider> but back to my problem, does anyone know how i can fix it ?
[04:00] <Elda> What problem is that?  I dont know much but I might be able to help :S
[04:00] <Dreamglider> and again, when i play videos in fullscreen i get a lot of horisontal lines, this is only in fullscreen mode. laptop is Intel P4 3GHz, 1gb ram, and GeForce FX Go6500 grapic card. can anyone assist?
[04:01] <jerp> prefs is standard in the installation not only should it be in that menu but it should be checked as default
[04:01] <Elda> Well, my apologies as I just came in.  But I am not sure on that one, perhaps check your refresh? :x
[04:01] <txfirehawk> well that is where i am stuck.
[04:02] <jerp> many times it's customary to reinstall under certain circumstances this would be a good sign that it's called for
[04:02] <txfirehawk> im still pretty new as well
[04:02] <txfirehawk> i would rather not do that, i have a lot set up already  =/
[04:02] <txfirehawk> ill keep looking I guess
[04:03] <jerp> ok, good luck
[04:03] <jerp> tx, you might want to reinstall the desktop
[04:04] <txfirehawk> dont know how lol
[04:04] <txfirehawk> im brand new  -_-
[04:04] <ethos_> tx, try creating another user and log in as that and see if it's there.
[04:04] <txfirehawk> ok thx brb
[04:05] <ethos_> Has anyone here ever applied a patch to something?
[04:06] <hybrid> ethos_: what do you mean?
[04:06] <zspada15> ethos_, yes
[04:06] <zspada15> ethos_, what do you mean though?
[04:06] <hybrid> most of the time you update you are patching something
[04:06] <ethos_> This is my dilemma:  I follow the instructions here: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/S3switch#Usage and it says to apply this patch because yes I get the segmentation fault.  It doesn't say how to apply the patch though, it looks like code to me.  I'm relatively new to Linux.
[04:06] <ethos_> Have a look at what it's telling me to do here.
[04:06] <dalani> firefox can't load barnesnoble tonight
[04:06] <dalani> so i use lynx instead ;that works why??
[04:07] <dalani> does anyone know what settings in firefox might block some pages??
[04:08] <manmadha> how to php programs in linux..??
[04:09] <txfirehawk> i went to the built in oem user and the menu is the same
[04:09] <hajiki> hey guys im planning on upgrading to edgy and i found a dvd iso on the net should i dl it??
[04:09] <txfirehawk> still no pref
[04:10] <Elda> Edgy isnt that big
[04:10] <ArrenLex> Whoa.
[04:10] <ArrenLex> Just finished installing Debian from floppies.
[04:10] <ArrenLex> It felt so 1985.
[04:10] <Elda> My iso for edgy fit on a cd
[04:10] <JoeC> anybody know the best way to change the gtk theme in fluxbox?
[04:10] <manmadha> how to php programs in linux..??
[04:10] <jerp> txfire, enter 'sudo synaptic' in a terminal.  search for desktop
[04:11] <txfirehawk> k brb
[04:11] <bruenig> If I have a bunch of files, say music files that have the name of the album and then the name of the song after it. Is there anyway to remove the album name off of all of them with one command.
[04:11] <txfirehawk> ty btw
[04:11] <ArrenLex> !php  | manmadha
[04:11] <ubotu> manmadha: lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[04:11] <devilsadvocate> hajiki, you dont need an iso. you can cange your  repo sources list and let apt di its thing
[04:12] <devilsadvocate> !upgrade
[04:12] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:12] <hajiki> nah i want to dl an iso, i think thats a safer way to upgrade
[04:12] <hajiki> >.>;
[04:12] <devilsadvocate> ok
[04:12] <hajiki> heres the torrent i found:
[04:12] <hajiki> http://www.mininova.org/tor/467543
[04:12] <bruenig> say for example, I have a directory full of files that are, xa xb xc xd xe xf... and I wanted to remove the x from all of their names, anyway to do that?
[04:13] <hajiki> but why is that a dvd?? anything special?
[04:13] <txfirehawk> jerp there are a bunch of packages that came up on the right plane
[04:13] <Elda> Im wondering the same thing
[04:13] <manmadha> bruenig, u have to write a script
[04:13] <manmadha> for i in *
[04:13] <jerp> try this.... right click on the deskbar in an open area and hit add to panel at the top and then click the add application launcher
[04:13] <txfirehawk> k jas
[04:13] <jerp> it's the button on the left
[04:13] <manmadha> mv x* to filename
[04:14] <jerp> then find prefs at the bottom
[04:14] <jerp> and click add on the bottom right
[04:14] <Kal-El> Can Anone tell me how to install a genome theme?
[04:15] <devilsadvocate> hajiki, it has some of the repos on it as welll
[04:15] <devilsadvocate> hajiki, you will have to get the alternat install cd to upgrade
[04:16] <hajiki> oh
[04:16] <hajiki> ok thanks
[04:16] <jerp> kal, I think it takes a specific theme manager
[04:16] <Kal-El> how do i get that?
[04:17] <jerp> look in synaptic
[04:17] <jerp> txfire, enter 'sudo synaptic' in a terminal.  search for theme as title
[04:17] <jerp> kal, enter 'sudo synaptic' in a terminal.  search for theme as title
[04:18] <Lam_> !gksudo
[04:18] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[04:18] <jerp> thanks lam, I didn't know that
[04:18] <coz_> how to  GTK_CONFIG environment variable to the
[04:18] <coz_> *** full path to gtk-config.
[04:20] <SilentWarrior> hybrid thx for the help, cant get it working, its late, going to bed, cya guys, thx to tomcat and matthew
[04:21] <Kal-El> i did the drag and drop thing but it keeps sayin file name is invalid
[04:22] <jerp> what drag and drop?
[04:22] <Kal-El> yo grab the file and drag it to  theme manager and let go
[04:22] <txfirehawk> jerp,   i have searcherd for desktop and a lot of packages come up
[04:22] <jerp> hmm
[04:22] <txfirehawk> on the right plane
[04:23] <jerp> txfire, search as title only
[04:23] <txfirehawk> i am on xubuntu 6.10 i think
[04:23] <txfirehawk> ok
[04:23] <AfterDeath> my school is so stupid
[04:23] <AfterDeath> i set up a simple cgi:proxy
[04:23] <SF100> Hi, I need some help. I am having trouble installing Java, when I get to the following step I get an error:
[04:23] <SF100> In the current directory, create a symbolic link to the JRE ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so file Type:
[04:23] <SF100> ln -s <JRE installation directory>/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[04:23] <jerp> find the basic ubuntu-desktop it would be the one that is the first of a set
[04:23] <AfterDeath> and it doesn't get blocked, because it uses https
[04:24] <JoeC> Kal-El, have a look at gnome-look.org, download the theme, right click on it, choose 'open with archive manager' extract the theme to /home/username/.themes, then go to system>preferences>theme, click theme details and choose your theme
[04:24] <jerp> txfire, you are using ubuntu as opposed to kubuntu-desktop
[04:24] <txfirehawk> jerp what are we looking for?
[04:24] <SF100> the error says: -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `in'
[04:24] <txfirehawk> not sure  :)
[04:24] <jerp> ubuntu-desktop
[04:24] <php-freak_> Can someone help me I have a folder that is the username of what I log into, and I'm trying to transfer a certain over ftp to my webserver, but it don't transfer it. I using send /home/php-freak/websites/dewitts/pges/seo/tools/seo-tools-complete.html
[04:25] <php-freak_> I'm using the terminals ftp
[04:25] <txfirehawk> ok jas
[04:25] <kitche> php-freak_: how are you trying to put it on the ftp server?
[04:25] <php-freak_> kitche: what do you mean?
[04:25] <php-freak_> I just type in send
[04:25] <php-freak_> then the following path /home/php-freak/websites/dewitts/pges/seo/tools/seo-tools-complete.html
[04:26] <php-freak_> when it says local file
[04:26] <Elda> Well, I just edited my xorg.conf, so either this will vastly improve my fps, or mess my installation up.  So if Im not back after this reboot Im reinstalling linux or trying to get xorg.conf fixed xD
[04:26] <Elda> with me luck :s
[04:26] <php-freak_> then when it says remote-file, i just make sure im in the correct directory, and type /seo-tools-complete.html
[04:26] <php-freak_> kitche: is that what you was asking?
[04:26] <jerp> txfire, 'desktop' in Search and then Look In 'Name'
[04:27] <kitche> php-freak_: yeah try mput or put
[04:27] <txfirehawk> jerp, i am running xubuntu desktop, i see it listed here
[04:27] <|thunder> haha, check this chick out playing video games, i think I can see her cootch. http://www.gamingoutloud.com/images/girl_gamer3.jpg
[04:27] <txfirehawk> do i need to change that?
[04:27] <jerp> ok I would hit reinstall
[04:27] <jerp> if it's available
[04:27] <txfirehawk> why?
[04:27] <php-freak_> kitche: I tried put too
[04:28] <php-freak_> whats the difference as put, send, and mput?
[04:28] <Kal-El> on gnome-look what do i download?
[04:28] <jerp> to make the preferences come up
[04:28] <jerp> isn't that what you want?
[04:28] <txfirehawk> ah reinstall the package
[04:28] <txfirehawk> ok than you
[04:28] <txfirehawk> ill try iy
[04:28] <txfirehawk> it*
[04:28] <JoeC> so anyone know how to change the gtk theme in fluxbox? I found gtk-theme-switch in repos but I believe I need gtk-theme-switch2 for gtk2 themes and it isnt there
[04:29] <SF100> nevermind...i got it.
[04:29] <JoeC> Kal-El, whatever theme you want
[04:29] <php-freak_> kitche: mput said no such file, or directory.
[04:29] <jerp> kal, what tickles your fancy according to criteria on the left margin
[04:29] <Kal-El> Bloodline
[04:29] <SF100> I gotta say in the few days I have been tinkering with linux it has made me feel very stupid
[04:29] <SF100> but im not giving up yet :)
[04:29] <kitche> php-freak_: mput sends multiple files while put is the same as send
[04:29] <jrib> JoeC: gtk-theme-switch2 is included with gtk-theme-switch
[04:30] <txfirehawk> jerp do i need to restart x?
[04:30] <txfirehawk> it d/l the package again
[04:30] <php-freak_> why have put/send ?
[04:30] <JoeC> ahh, thanks jrib
[04:30] <gbv22> hey guys, if i want to dual boot xp and ubuntu..what order should i install the operating systems in??
[04:30] <jerp> no I think you're thinking of xorg server
[04:31] <php-freak_> lol 2 commands for nothing, I'm sure there some what difference in them, maybe the ftp server regonizes different oens
[04:31] <jerp> as opposed to xfce
[04:31] <php-freak_> recognize*
[04:31] <gbv22> anyone?
[04:31] <JoeC> Kal-El, click download under where it gives the description of the theme
[04:31] <php-freak_> ktich: how can I tell the exact location of a file?
[04:31] <Kal-El> kk
[04:31] <Kal-El> downloaded
[04:31] <php-freak_> I 2nd click on my mouse button, and take the path out of the property which is /home/php-freak/websites/dewitts/pges/seo/tools/seo-tools-complete.html
[04:31] <Kal-El> and i opened it with archive manager
[04:32] <gbv22> please?can anyone help me?
[04:32] <JoeC> gbv22, install windows first
[04:32] <jrib> gbv22: install xp first and leave unpartitioned space for ubuntu
[04:32] <ozoneco> i have a program "/usr/bin/conky" that is entered in a "sessions, startup" list, it doesn't start, why?
[04:32] <jrib> !dualboot | gbv22
[04:32] <ubotu> gbv22: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[04:32] <kitche> php-freak_: exact location for what?
[04:32] <php-freak_> the file im trying to send
[04:32] <php-freak_> lol
[04:32] <php-freak_> duh
[04:32] <gbv22> how much space should i leave for ubuntu?
[04:33] <php-freak_> Kitche: These files are in my home folder under my user name folder
[04:33] <jerp> txfire, I'm curious if the application launcher I told you earlier got the Preferences to show
[04:33] <gbv22> how big should the ubuntu partition be?
[04:33] <php-freak_> them are the ones im trying to send
[04:33] <seth88j> my wifi card is detected and it shows up during install and after but it wont find any networks, how do i get it to work?
[04:33] <php-freak_> Don't know if there anything to do with it blocking something, or somethin
[04:33] <zach634> hey guys, I plan on installing ubuntu on my mac here, and I'd like to know... what's the easiest way to back up the HD to a networked drive?  dd?
[04:33] <kitche> php-freak_: think you have to be in the directory of the files with the ftp cli program
[04:33] <jrib> gbv22: I would recommend 100% ubuntu and 0% windows, but that is me :P  Depends on how much you plan on using ubuntu and how much space you have
[04:34] <jerp> txfire, do gksudo killall xubuntu-desktop in a terminal
[04:34] <php-freak_> kitche: lol now you tell me that.
[04:34] <gbv22> jrib
[04:34] <gbv22> haha
[04:34] <txfirehawk> k jas
[04:34] <gbv22> jrib: yeah ubuntu is cool and all..but for some things..u need xp right
[04:35] <kitche> php-freak_:  well I was looking at the ftp commands and it seems you can't give it a path to upload
[04:35] <jerp> txfire, it will do something as if to "cough" and come back to life.
[04:35] <night17> gbv22: it's all what your into
[04:35] <php-freak_> kitche: so I have to have every single file in the same directory, and no folders to upload them?
[04:35] <jrib> gbv22: I use ubuntu for everything.  Only thing I can think someone might need xp for is the latest games
[04:35] <seth88j> How do u get a wifi card connected to a network in ubuntu? it is detected but it wont show any networks?
[04:36] <linuxnewb> hello
[04:36] <zach634> Why HOW-D!
[04:36] <jrib> linuxnewb: hi, welcome
[04:36] <jerp> hello newb
[04:36] <linuxnewb> hi jrib
[04:36] <linuxnewb> any one here run ubuntu for server
[04:36] <gbv22> jrib: yeah..i guess....gaming is the only thing.....pls tell me something..i was talking to some of my friends..and they feel that fedora is a better distribution...what are your views?
[04:37] <txfirehawk> jerp it asked for my password and then that was it.   it (pref) is still not on any menu.
[04:37] <seth88j> Fedora is way smoother
[04:37] <gbv22> in what way seth?
[04:37] <php-freak_> kitche: you there?
[04:37] <linuxnewb> i am looking for mail server
[04:37] <jrib> gbv22: I like debian a lot.  But it is all preference.  I would try both out and see what you like more
[04:37] <php-freak_> Any one good with the command line ftp app. by ubuntu?
[04:37] <seth88j> On my machine it is just more snapier, running gnome
[04:37] <php-freak_> Need an expert?
[04:38] <kitche> php-freak_: yeah was reading the ftp man page
[04:38] <linuxnewb> any one run mail server here
[04:38] <php-freak_> i see
[04:38] <seth88j> Fedora is a big download
[04:38] <php-freak_> kitche: what'd you find out?
[04:38] <seth88j> Hey guys anybody here listen to black flag?
[04:38] <gbv22> jrib: i see....which desktop env is more popular...kde or gnome...(pls forgive me if im being too generic)
[04:39] <seth88j> Peace
[04:39] <linuxnewb> no one here run server
[04:39] <kitche> php-freak_: not a lot the man page doesn't have anything about uploading directories if that's what your trying to do
[04:39] <jerp> txfire, hmm, ok, I'm in gnome and I did have xubuntu on the dapper but I have forgotten where that is,  I must say I apologise for not asking what you were using before we started.   (sheepish grin)
[04:40] <night17> gbv22: don't forget xfce :] 
[04:40] <jrib> gbv22: heh this is again personal preference, you should just try both.  kde gives you a lot more options (some feel too much).  GNOME likes to keep things simple (some feel too much)
[04:40] <php-freak_> Ktiche: im not trying to upload a directory? Why ask such question. I'm trying to upload the file from that directory.
[04:40] <txfirehawk> its ok, i have been looking on the ubuntu forums and i see pref listed on the menu but it is not on mine.   is there a command to launch the app?
[04:40] <gbv22> night17:which distribution uses xfce?
[04:40] <kitche> php-freak_: then cd to that directory on your local machine and up load it
[04:41] <jrib> gbv22: GNOME is probably more popular on ubuntu though since it is default
[04:41] <kitche> gbv22: xubuntu but you cna install it with ubuntu also
[04:41] <jerp> txfire, do you have the menu that is on the desktop? or is it in the deskbar?
[04:41] <gbv22> jrib:ok..i will do that..can i dual boot two linux systems
[04:41] <jerp> like, click the mouse on the wallpaper and the menu shows
[04:41] <gbv22> kitche: i can dual boot xubuntu and ubunty?
[04:42] <kitche> gbv22: you cna do sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop then you will have xfce
[04:42] <txfirehawk> deskbar
[04:42] <jrib> gbv22: yes you can.  You could have both fedora and ubuntu on your system.  As far as having both GNOME and KDE on ubuntu, you can just install kubuntu-desktop package after installing ubuntu.  Then at the login screen, the "options" button lets you switch
[04:43] <xarq> what tv card is recommended for ubuntu?
[04:43] <jerp> ok, I'm baffled, in the dapper I had the menu was on the desktop
[04:43] <xarq> usb or otherwise
[04:43] <txfirehawk> i am using an old all in woder
[04:43] <txfirehawk> wonder*
[04:44] <jrib> txfirehawk: what are you trying to launch?
[04:44] <txfirehawk> im trying to set up vnc
[04:44] <jerp> he is missing the preferences
[04:44] <txfirehawk> ive been searching the forums
[04:44] <txfirehawk> for 2 days lol
[04:44] <txfirehawk> got it running
[04:44] <txfirehawk> but wont accept the pass
[04:45] <txfirehawk> so i am not sure how to launch the app to reset/ configure a password
[04:45] <SupremeBeing> would anyone care to assist me with fglrx?  I can wait =)
[04:45] <jrib> !enter | txfirehawk
[04:45] <ubotu> txfirehawk: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[04:45] <txfirehawk> ah sorry
[04:45] <jrib> txfirehawk: you are using your user password?
[04:45] <txfirehawk> i am logged in as a user
[04:46] <jrib> txfirehawk: does synaptic work?
[04:46] <txfirehawk> yes
[04:46] <txfirehawk> i have been using it
[04:46] <txfirehawk> xubuntu-desktop is installed
[04:46] <php-freak_> this channel sucks 885 people, and no support
[04:47] <php-freak_> #linux
[04:47] <pablo_> can anyone give me some hints on installing freeglut3-dev? (broken dependency with libgl1-mesa-dev)
[04:47] <SupremeBeing> php-freak_: that's not a good way to get support =)
[04:47] <jrib> txfirehawk: ok we are talking about system > administration > remote desktop?  "vino-preferences" command?
[04:47] <php-freak_> lol
[04:47] <php-freak_> wasn't like I was getting it anyways
[04:47] <kitche> php-freak_: to bad #linux will tell you to just come here
[04:47] <SupremeBeing> php-freak_: that's true
[04:47] <jrib> s/administration/preferences
[04:47] <php-freak_> its just ridicules there is 885 people in here, and not 1 person can answer a question lol.
[04:47] <bonggnu> hi,  my webserver (apache2) cant execute a setup.php file, it wants to open with a text editor
[04:48] <kitche> php-freak_: did you even try to upload that file fromt he directory that the file is in
[04:48] <txfirehawk> njrib that is to connect to a pc, i want vncserver to accept incoming and it is but it will not accept the password
[04:48] <jrib> !lamp > bonggnu
[04:48] <txfirehawk> i have no idea how to change the pass
[04:48] <bonggnu> thanks
[04:48] <jrib> txfirehawk: remote desktop is to configure your computer so others can connect to it
[04:48] <jorgp> how do I get a UUID to add to fstab for another partition?
[04:48] <txfirehawk> let me take a 2nd look
[04:48] <php-freak_> kitche: Well duh.
[04:48] <txfirehawk> jas
[04:48] <canine_kouji> :D why can't hte ubuntu logo look like this? http://home.utcorp.net/~gongo/humor/IT/ubuntu-logo.jpg
[04:48] <php-freak_> Ktiche: how long you been using linux?
[04:49] <tomiboi> How do I update clamAV in Ubuntu?
[04:49] <canine_kouji> sexy female rear ends :D
[04:49] <kitche> php-freak_: about 5 years and I m using LFS right now
[04:49] <php-freak_> kitche: What do you think I was doing sending a directory? lol you can't send a a directory
[04:49] <php-freak_> I was trying to send the file from the directory into the proper directory on the host end.
[04:49] <jrib> !uuid | jorgp
[04:49] <ubotu> jorgp: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[04:49] <jerp> tom, there's an updater app in synaptic isn't there?
[04:50] <CzarAlex> When I hold either shift button or CTRL button and try to use my mouse to select multiple items in a list (in all applications), the mouse will freeze until i release the shift or CTRL key. So I can't select anything on the list. My system doesn't freeze, just the mouse. Suggestions?
[04:50] <jerp> I saw it a couple days ago
[04:50] <tomiboi> let me check.
[04:50] <jorgp> thanks jrib
[04:50] <britt> CzarAlex: check this, check to see if DOS emulation for USB is enabled
[04:50] <SupremeBeing> can anybody help me with fglrx?
[04:50] <britt> mine was and it messed everything up
[04:50] <CzarAlex> britt: where can I find that?
[04:50] <monokrome> Yo.
[04:50] <britt> CzarAlex: in the system BIOS.
[04:51] <HeathenDan> how do i make jpg photos "lighter" with gimp? they're too dark
[04:51] <britt> has it always done this?
[04:51] <jorgp> well, if it is an Alan Cox thing, it has to be good
[04:51] <monokrome> Is it possible to copy the iptables from one computer to another
[04:51] <monokrome> :/
[04:51] <CzarAlex> britt: would that be the same as like enabling USB to work under DOS..like USB mouse/keyboard support for DOS/boot up stuff?
[04:51] <sigp239> My sound suddently starts stuttering in ubuntu 6.10.  Please help thanks.
[04:52] <CzarAlex> britt: Yeah it has but I think I turned that option on prior to installing once.
[04:52] <jerp> yeah, clam-getfiles
[04:52] <canine_kouji> *shrug* no wonder I'm never here. Too many noobs
[04:52] <sko0zy> Can anyone recommend an enviorment to code C in
[04:52] <TehUni> all the sudden my custom kernel (edgy) refuses to boot. it hangs right after USB discovery. using the generic kernel, everything is fine. It's worked flawlessly until now. I have to use custom because i have more than 4gigs ram. Where should i start troubleshooting?
[04:52] <jrib> sko0zy: vim, or anjuta if you want an IDE
[04:53] <w3ccv> sko0zy, you mean which editor?  vi, emacs, whatever you like!
[04:53] <CzarAlex> nano!
[04:53] <php-freak_> Never mind I figured out where the files were going
[04:53] <txfirehawk> man i dont know
[04:53] <sko0zy> jrib,  whwat would u suggest or what do you like better..i know its preference but i like imput
[04:53] <jorgp> jrib, interesting bug in that blkid
[04:53] <jerp> heather, look for layers/colors
[04:54] <php-freak_> kitche: sorry, but if you been using linux for 5 years your should know this, or maybe I was not being clearn enough if so I apologize
[04:54] <jrib> jorgp: oh?
[04:54] <britt> CzarAlex: yes its the same
[04:54] <jerp> brightness-contrast
[04:54] <astroboy> Last two attempts to install EdgyEft resulted in "Verifying DMI Pool Data ... Not found any [active partition]  in HDD ... DISK BOOT FALIURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER" Any ideas ? I've been working on this for two days now .
[04:54] <jrib> sko0zy: vim, definitely worth the time to learn it
[04:54] <talbain> heather gimp? picture window: tools->color tools->brightness contrast
[04:54] <sko0zy> jrib, thanks
[04:54] <jorgp> jrib, I just did a sudo blkid and it listed some then switched to garbage on screen
[04:54] <britt> CzarAlex: change that back, and you should be good to go. When mine was enabled, my mouse would stop working after a few seconds of connecting to the wireless thingy doo-hickey
[04:55] <CzarAlex> Using this page as a guide https://help.ubuntu.com/5.10/ubuntu/faq/C/fg-windows-partitions.html how would I mount hdb1 and sda1 ? both are NTFS filesystems. Do I need to change umask=0222 to anything different?
[04:55] <sigp239> My sound suddently starts stuttering in ubuntu 6.10.  Please help thanks.
[04:55] <CzarAlex> britt: gotcha. and thanks. Ill restart in a moment see if that fixes it.
[04:55] <jrib> jorgp: strange, you shouldn't need sudo by the way
[04:55] <kitche> php-freak_: you said / as the remove directory that will put it in your remote parent directory you can just try the filename alone when your in the remote directory
[04:55] <kitche> remove/remote
[04:55] <jorgp> jrib, http://pastebin.ca/265266
[04:56] <txfirehawk> i logged in and out and still no system > preferences.  not sure what to do now
[04:56] <jrib> txfirehawk: are you in GNOME?
[04:56] <txfirehawk> xfce
[04:56] <txfirehawk> is that what you mean?
[04:56] <jrib> txfirehawk: the system > preferences is in GNOME
[04:57] <kitche> php-freak_: just like ona  local machine cp <file name> /<filename> will put the file in /
[04:57] <txfirehawk> ok
[04:57] <jrib> txfirehawk: maybe you can run 'vino-preferences'.  I'm not sure if xfce uses this.  Search for 'vnc' on the wiki should turn up guides on using stuff other than vino though if you want
[04:58] <txfirehawk> what if i just install gnome?
[04:58] <sigp239> please help.  my sound stutters in ubuntu 6.10, how do i fix it?
[04:58] <jrib> txfirehawk: sure, that would work too.  Install the 'ubuntu-desktop' package
[04:58] <txfirehawk> ok give me a few
[04:59] <talbain> will linux ever be more popular than windows?
[04:59] <night17> maybe
[04:59] <night17> i doubt it
[04:59] <talbain> i hope so
[04:59] <jrib> !offtopic
[04:59] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:59] <night17> at least not for 10 years
[04:59] <CzarAlex> talbain: once more mainstream games are supported
[04:59] <kitche> php-freak_: I read what you said wrong but anyways I don't use the ftp cli program that much I prefer scp for uploading files to me webspace
[04:59] <talbain> true
[05:00] <night17> it needs to be distrobuted on commercial machines a lot
[05:00] <jorgp> jrib, I think maybe the label is messed up on a part, how do I change label?
[05:00] <night17> and people to get smarter
[05:00] <jerp> talbain, the French Parliment is envious of Gates and has dumped Windows in their government offices for Linux
[05:00] <talbain> i hope ubuntu is the start of the popularization
[05:00] <php-freak_> yea
[05:00] <britt> how efficient is software raid
[05:00] <talbain> cool
[05:00] <britt> seems like it would be a complete disaster in a real failure
[05:01] <jerp> http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6138372.html
[05:01] <sigp239> my sound stutters in ubuntu 6.10, how do i fix it?
[05:01] <britt> sigp239: check for updated gstreamer plugins
[05:01] <kitche> sigp239: what are you doing when your sound does it
[05:01] <night17> sigp239 just play round with it
[05:01] <britt> i used the 'ugly' build, and it worked fine.
[05:02] <sigp239> britt: but just regular sounds cause my system to stutter.  like desktop sounds.
[05:02] <jrib> jorgp: I don't know, but it's something I'd like to know so I'll let you know if google tells me
[05:02] <Davo_Dinkum> How can I use my CF to PCMCIA adapter in edgy? I plugged it in but it doesn't show upon the desktop.
[05:02] <jorgp> jrib, mtools does fat32 parts
[05:02] <sigp239> kitche: like logging in sounds, or playing mp3s, or the sounds produced when connecting on ekiga, etc..
[05:03] <knapp> Does anyone know of any lightweight office applications like an alternative to openoffice? It takes OO like 1minute to open on my laptop.
[05:03] <blameless> abiword, gnumeric ...
[05:03] <Davo_Dinkum> knapp: Abiword
[05:03] <jerp> I'd say check connections first, then reload packages
[05:03] <talbain> grat read, makes a lot of sense
[05:03] <knapp> Thanks, I'll check it out.
[05:04] <britt> sigp239: my ibook is doing that too, but its bc ubuntu is just choking it out
[05:04] <sigp239> britt: choking it out?
[05:04] <knapp> what about something like abiword, but for kde:?
[05:04] <knapp> :/
[05:04] <kitche> knapp: Koffice
[05:04] <Davo_Dinkum> Koffice might load quicker.
[05:05] <knapp> What word processor comes with Xubuntu?
[05:05] <jrib> jorgp: gparted seems to offer the option under device > set disklabel  but it prompted that it would need to erase all data
[05:05] <knapp> or office type prog
[05:05] <kitche> knapp: mousepad it's like notepad
[05:05] <sigp239> i'm really dissapointed in ubuntu
[05:05] <sigp239> stuff just doesn't work
[05:05] <knapp> Hmm, ok thanks
[05:05] <mirceatm> hi! i've got a problem booting ubuntu live 6.10 on amd64 with sata .. /bin/sh: Can't access tty; Job control turned off. read the forums but nothing is clear.. could someone help?
[05:05] <kitche> sigp239: what is your ram by chance?
[05:05] <Elda> Woooh
[05:05] <britt> sigp239: yeah too much for a g3 366 apparently, im gettins skipping on sound fx too
[05:05] <jorgp> jrib, im playing with mtools to see what it does
[05:05] <night17> sigp239- what are your pc specs?
[05:05] <Davo_Dinkum> I've heard of a system tray applet that preloads oo.o into memory, so when you go to use it, it's ready for you.
[05:05] <JoshJ> i'm having trouble opening a .rar file
[05:05] <Elda> I broke my install and managed to fix it xD
[05:05] <jorgp> jrib, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/01/editing-fat32-partition-labels-using-mtools/
[05:05] <JoshJ> what do i need to get archive manager to work with rars?
[05:06] <sigp239> kitche: p4 3.06Ghz, 512mb memory
[05:06] <defrysk> JoshJ, in edgy sudo apt-get install unrar
[05:06] <TehUni> all the sudden my custom kernel (edgy) refuses to boot. it hangs right after USB discovery. using the generic kernel, everything is fine. It's worked flawlessly until now. I have to use custom because i have more than 4gigs ram. Where should i start troubleshooting?
[05:06] <sigp239> night17: p4 3.06Ghz, 512mb memory
[05:06] <kitche> sigp239: onboard sound?
[05:06] <Elda> Im glad that I saved the original settings with ## on the xorg.conf xD
[05:06] <JoshJ> and then the command is?
[05:06] <ozoneco> mirceatm: had that trouble, same thing, athlon 64, ubuntu live
[05:06] <JoshJ> oh, nvm, i see
[05:06] <jrib> jorgp: cool thanks
[05:06] <sigp239> kitche: i've tried my onboard sound and also my soundblaster live!
[05:06] <JoshJ> thanks
[05:06] <CzarAlex> Using this page as a guide https://help.ubuntu.com/5.10/ubuntu/faq/C/fg-windows-partitions.html how would I mount hdb1 and sda1 ? both are NTFS filesystems. Do I need to change umask=0222 to anything different?
[05:06] <ozoneco> mirceatm: loaded suse right up
[05:06] <sigp239> kitche: same problem with either sound card
[05:06] <kitche> TehUni: what does your custom kernel say?
[05:06] <defrysk> !unrar | JoshJ
[05:06] <ubotu> JoshJ: unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:07] <mirceatm> ozoneco: that's not an option :)
[05:07] <cheesybobman> hi
[05:07] <jorgp> jrib, blkid still has issues reading the label of a vfat part though
[05:07] <JoshJ> !info unrar-free
[05:07] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[05:07] <ozoneco> mirceatm: understand
[05:07] <TehUni> kitche: what do you mean "what does it say" ?
[05:07] <night17> if it works on my celeron 433mhz with 256mb ram it should be at home on yours sigp239
[05:07] <JoshJ> so if unrar-free is free as in speech, how do i have unrar (non-free) ?
[05:07] <kitche> sigp239: hmm sound skipping might be caused by esd not working
[05:07] <defrysk> JoshJ, dont use unrar-free
[05:07] <cheesybobman> i have ubuntu 6.06 LTS running on my Acer Aspire 5002WLMI and I can't get my wireless card to work. Help please?
[05:07] <sigp239> kitche: should I disable esd and reboot?
[05:07] <kitche> TehUni: does it kernel panic? since if it does it usualy has an error along side it
[05:07] <JoshJ> yeah, i noticed, it didn't work :[
[05:08] <mirceatm> ozoneco: so.. now you have suse and stay around in #ubuntu? :)
[05:08] <kitche> sigp239: you can try that just to see if it rules it out
[05:08] <defrysk> JoshJ,  unrar-free does not support multiple archived rars
[05:08] <ozoneco> this pc has ubuntu
[05:08] <TehUni> kitche: nope.. just hangs after detecting usb devices.
[05:08] <cheesybobman> anyone?
[05:09] <jrib> !wireless | cheesybobman
[05:09] <ubotu> cheesybobman: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:09] <kitche> TehUni: did you update recently?
[05:09] <mirceatm> hi! i've got a problem booting ubuntu live 6.10 on amd64 with sata .. /bin/sh: Can't access tty; Job control turned off. read the forums but nothing is clear.. could someone help?
[05:09] <levander> Trying to mount a cd, I just got the error: "unknown filesystem type 'iso9660'".  Do I have to install the iso9660 fs separate?
[05:09] <php-freak_> Kitche: Dang is Linux case sensitive on everything?
[05:09] <jrib> mirceatm: all I can suggest is trying the alternate install cd assuming you are trying to install
[05:09] <JoshJ> php-freak_ : yes
[05:09] <TehUni> kitche: yea, i do an apt-get upgrade almost daily. but haven't seen anything major lately
[05:09] <mirceatm> jrib: will try that.
[05:10] <kitche> TehUni: maybe it broke your kernel
[05:10] <php-freak_> joshj: do you use gimp?
[05:10] <Elda> meh, brb
[05:10] <Elda> somethign is acting odd
[05:10] <TehUni> kitche: i recompiled the exact same kernel, with the exact same result.
[05:10] <JoshJ> php-freak_: no, i use krita when i need to do graphics editing
[05:10] <php-freak_> Any one a gimp expert here.
[05:11] <php-freak_> I need something that could produce possibly the same effects as photoshop?
[05:11] <w3ccv> php-freak_, not an expert, but a user what's up
[05:11] <kitche> php-freak_:  might want to ask #gimp over at gnome's irc server
[05:11] <tristanbob_> anyone recommend a vendor to buy an Ubuntu server from?
[05:11] <php-freak_> Well how can I download all the plug ins for gimp?
[05:11] <w3ccv> php-freak_,  what effect?
[05:11] <php-freak_> lol all of them
[05:11] <JoshJ> ...
[05:11] <zach634> tristanbob: anybody? ubuntu is free
[05:11] <night17> tristanbob-just download and burnit
[05:12] <night17> it's cheaper
[05:12] <JoshJ> so you want to know "how do i use gimp?"
[05:12] <jrib> I think tristanbob_ means a physical server
[05:12] <w3ccv> php-freak_, easy, use the onlinetutorials or the GIMP book
[05:12] <night17> whichever one is closest
[05:12] <tristanbob_> jrib: yes, a hardware server
[05:12] <zach634> jrib: yes, anything will work.  Hell, like, find some old computer lying on the side of the road or something :P
[05:13] <night17> oh ok
[05:13] <night17> i c what you mean
[05:13] <jrib> tristanbob_: ob-just download and burnit
[05:13] <tristanbob_> zach634: this is for a small business, looking to support those who support UBuntu
[05:13] <zach634> tristanbob: newegg.com  build your own for cheap
[05:13] <jrib> tristanbob_: http://system76.com/  seem like nice people,, no experience though
[05:13] <whalesalad> hey everyone, im trying to change my mysql root password and each time I attempt to change the password, I get some errors.
[05:14] <tristanbob_> jrib: yes, I have heard of them - looking at website
[05:14] <php-freak> sorry lost connection
[05:14] <tristanbob_> zach634: I used to do that (still get upgrades from newegg) but I prefer to purchase tested configurations now
[05:14] <sigp239> i've tried two different sound cards, and now I've tried disabling ESD.  The  sound is still stuttering very badly.
[05:14] <w3ccv> whalesalad, as mysql root, remember to use the password() function
[05:14] <whalesalad> tristianbob: unless its a mac, the best way to go is newegg
[05:15] <whalesalad> w3ccv: im trying to do this from the command line, i just got the box setup with edgy server, and now im getting django runnin too. mysql seems to be having problems..
[05:15] <tristanbob_> whalesalad: what command are you using?
[05:15] <blameless> define a "tested" configuration
[05:15] <whalesalad> im following thsi guide for the mysql portion, http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.10_p4
[05:16] <w3ccv> whalesalad, probably easier ways but  update user set password=password{"newpassword") where user=root;
[05:16] <whalesalad> mysqladmin -u root password yourrootsqlpassword    <- is the command that gives me errors
[05:16] <tristanbob_> blameless: just that - the hardware components have been tested to work with each other
[05:16] <tristanbob_> whalesalad: try using "sudo"?
[05:16] <blameless> there are several places online where you can configure a barebones machines and the company will actually put the machine together and see that it works
[05:16] <whalesalad> im already root right now
[05:16] <tristanbob_> ahh
[05:16] <whalesalad> root@wsdev:/home/whalesalad# mysqladmin -u root password *******
[05:16] <whalesalad> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[05:16] <whalesalad> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[05:17] <w3ccv> whalesalad, I think you need password= in your commandline
[05:17] <snid> i need some help using with high mem (ram) support....do i need to enable high memory support for the ubuntu kernel?
[05:17] <whalesalad> w3ccv: three different places, including mysql itself has said to do that command, so thats what ive been toying with.
[05:18] <blameless> whalesalad: what happens if you add a -p <oldpassword) after the -u root
[05:18] <tristanbob_> whalesalad: I think that command is just for the initial password
[05:18] <whalesalad> i think it might be a hostname issue
[05:18] <whalesalad> blameless, let me try that
[05:18] <defrysk> snid, the generic supports high mem
[05:18] <tristanbob_> blameless: yes, that is what he needs for changing a password
[05:19] <snid> defrysk: hmmm... when i run vmware and with the setting to use most of the ram... alot of my ram gets swapped... and im not sure why
[05:19] <whalesalad> blameless, well it apparently works... hehe
[05:19] <w3ccv> whalesalad, either use -p and it will ask for a password or use password=<yourcurrentpassword>
[05:19] <defrysk> snid, nu clue about vmware, sorry
[05:19] <snid> defrysk: is there a kernel parameter i can pass to enable memory to be less likely to be swapped or something?
[05:20] <blameless> snid: yes the swappiness variable.  however, if vmware is taking up as much memory as it can, things will probably be swapped out
[05:20] <whalesalad> i guess what the problem is, is that im trying to connect to the databse server from my macbook using an app called navacat, when i try and connect it tells me that the host (my macbook) is not allowed to connect to the mysql server
[05:20] <stepanstas> hey guys
[05:20] <Launchpad> !apt-get update
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-get update - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <Launchpad> grr
[05:20] <Launchpad> !apt-get
[05:20] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:20] <stepanstas> is anyone else having problems with firefox?
[05:20] <Launchpad> !synaptic gnome
[05:20] <ubotu> synaptic: Graphical package manager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.57.11ubuntu12 (edgy), package size 1032 kB, installed size 5420 kB
[05:20] <defrysk> stepanstas, now that is a detailed question
[05:21] <stepanstas> ok, well...
[05:21] <cafuego_> whalesalad: Just add access; grant all on db.* to user@remotehostname identified by 'password';
[05:21] <stepanstas> when im on ubuntu.com, forums, and everything, its fine
[05:21] <cafuego_> whalesalad: and then 'flush privileges;'
[05:21] <stepanstas> but when i go to gmail, digg, google vid, and everything else
[05:21] <whalesalad> cafuego_: sorry. im an sql noob, how do I do that?
[05:21] <stepanstas> it closes
[05:22] <blameless> what error does it give?
[05:22] <snid> blameless: thanks.. that seems to be what i needed
[05:22] <cafuego_> whalesalad: 'sudo mysql', then run those commands
[05:22] <w3ccv> whalesalad, read the error message - when it says password-NO it means a password wasn't asked for and it needed one.
[05:22] <cafuego_> whalesalad: actually, just 'mysql -u root' and not sudo at all
[05:22] <blameless> snid: the ck patchset also uses a mapped watermark way of taking care of swap.  might want to look into that as well
[05:22] <stepanstas> anybody know why im having these problems with firefox?
[05:22] <defrysk> stepanstas, you installed flash and java with .debs from the repositories ?
[05:22] <whalesalad> ok well its giving me that password error, so how do I login with the password in the terminal
[05:23] <whalesalad> -p and the password doesnt work
[05:23] <w3ccv> whalesalad, mysql -l root -p
[05:23] <whalesalad> ok nevermind, i figured it out
[05:23] <stepanstas> defrysk: i resently installed adobe flash though the site
[05:23] <cafuego_> whalesalad: did you set a root password for mysql?
[05:23] <blameless> stepanstas: start firefox from the terminal, go to a website and let it crash.  it should tell you an error message
[05:23] <whalesalad> haha sorry, its been a while and i keep not trying what i already know thinking it wot work
[05:23] <w3ccv> whalesalad, congrats
[05:23] <whalesalad> yeah, so now im on the command line. how can I grant access to my macbook, so i guess systems other than localhost
[05:23] <defrysk> stepanstas, and removed the old one (flash7) ?
[05:24] <stepanstas> blameless, my first day using linux
[05:24] <stepanstas> how do i get o terminal
[05:24] <blameless> stepanstas: main menu - accessories - terminal
[05:24] <blameless> assuming this is gnome
[05:25] <defrysk> stepanstas, applications> accesories> terminal
[05:25] <stepanstas> k
[05:25] <stepanstas> got it
[05:25] <stepanstas> it closed
[05:25] <cafuego_> don't believe fierljeppen
[05:25] <whalesalad> cafuego: how can I tell mysql that anyoen from the ip ______ is allowed
[05:25] <stepanstas> i see no error
[05:25] <cafuego_> whalesalad: %@remotehost
[05:25] <defrysk> cafuego, I do :p
[05:26] <stepanstas> blameless, what do i do?
[05:26] <blameless> stepanstas: what about opening firefox and going to about:plugins.  what plugins are enabled?
[05:26] <defrysk> stepanstas, where are you talking about ?
[05:26] <stepanstas> i didnt get an error
[05:26] <snid> blameless: hmm... there isnt an ubuntu kernel built with ck patches is there?... i really hate compiling my own kernel.. i like everything to just upgrade and work by itself
[05:26] <whalesalad> cafuego: that doesnt seem to do anything in the mysql shell
[05:26] <defrysk> stepanstas, listen to blameless , I'm gonna make some coffee
[05:26] <stepanstas> k defrysk
[05:26] <snid> blameless: dont be confused... i was once a gentoo user, then got sick of waiting on compiles and broken dependencies
[05:26] <blameless> snid: no, i don't believe so.  i generally compile my own kernel on all of my machines.  other than this one which for some reason has issues with gdm on my own compiled
[05:27] <Launchpad> !update
[05:27] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:27] <blameless> snid: oh, i went from debian to suse, to debian, to gentoo, to slackware, to debian, to freebsd, to openbsd, back to freebsd, and then to gento and ubuntu :)
[05:28] <kitche> snid: no there is no kernel with ck patches since ck patches are meant more for power users
[05:28] <bunnythebunny> hello
[05:28] <stepanstas> blameless, i tried again, got an error. The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.
[05:28] <stepanstas> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[05:28] <stepanstas> The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.
[05:28] <stepanstas>   (Details: serial 118 error_code 8 request_code 144 minor_code 3)
[05:28] <stepanstas>   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
[05:28] <stepanstas>    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
[05:28] <stepanstas>    To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
[05:29] <stepanstas>    option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
[05:29] <stepanstas>    backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
[05:29] <kitche> !paste
[05:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:29] <defrysk> !paste | stepanstas
[05:29] <ubotu> stepanstas: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:29] <Launchpad> !update
[05:29] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:29] <bunnythebunny> how do i decompress a jar file_
[05:29] <bunnythebunny> ?
[05:29] <blameless>  /ignore ubotu all
[05:29] <defrysk> a java archive why would you do that ?
[05:30] <blameless> to get the cookies out?
[05:30] <stepanstas> sorry, didnt know
[05:30] <whis1> HAH
[05:30] <defrysk> bunnythebunny, thry java -jar blah.jar
[05:31] <blameless> stepanstas: i'm not sure what caused that error.  is firefox the only thing giving you fits?
[05:31] <bunnythebunny> defrysk, thanks
[05:31] <stepanstas> so far
[05:31] <stepanstas> it is the only program that closed
[05:31] <whis1> can anyone help me figure out why fglrx 8.24.8 fails compiling?
[05:31] <defrysk> bunnythebunny, not sure if i was correct had to dig deep in my mem
[05:31] <kitche> whis`: you have the kernel source installed?
[05:31] <blameless> stepanstas: try opening it up, and typing about:plugins in the location bar.  what plugins are in there?
[05:32] <whis1> kitche: unless it came with dapper then i doubt it, how do i go about getting it?
[05:32] <php-freak> How Do I know where my packages went? I just opened up a .bin file, and it opened up in the terminal, but what do i do now?
[05:32] <bunnythebunny> defrysk, it didnt work! Exception in thread "main" java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit
[05:32] <kitche> bunnythebunny: it's jar -x blah.jar java -jar blah.jar actually runs the .jar file
[05:32] <defrysk> kitche, thanks :)
[05:32] <kitche> whis1: it's in synaptic linux-tree or linux-source
[05:32] <chris_> Can anyone give me a hand with some wireless networking trouble?  It recognizes my wireless card, can see the essid being broadcast, but cannot connect to it.
[05:32] <blameless> php-freak: which bin file?
[05:32] <php-freak> blameless: what do you mean?
[05:33] <bunnythebunny> thanks kitche
[05:33] <php-freak> blameless: ZendStudio-5_1_0.bin
[05:33] <blameless> usually .bin files are created by makeself to install a program.  i was just curious which one it was.  anyway, open up a termina and run the .bin file inside the terminal
[05:33] <blameless> it should as you where you want to put it
[05:34] <m0dY> anyone with shell scripting experience here ?
[05:34] <stepanstas> blameless,http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35150/
[05:34] <xiechy> I have upgrade to feisty
[05:34] <blameless> chris_: what type of card, 802.11b/g, etc?
[05:34] <xiechy> but the IO performance is extremely slow
[05:34] <blameless> stepanstas: so you just have flash 7 and totem in there?
[05:35] <php-freak> ZendStudio-5_1_0.bin so just type that in the terminal in the same directory as the file?
[05:35] <kitche> xiechy: of course it will be slow it's not even stable yet it's the development version of ubuntu
[05:35] <blameless> stepanstas: how did flash 7 get installed?
[05:35] <sujan> hi, i am unable to wma file with totem
[05:35] <stepanstas> blameless, there is also the quicktime plugin
[05:35] <blameless> stepanstas: my guess, and its a guess, is that that would be the problem.  flash is really the only plugin that gmail is going to use
[05:35] <kitche> php-freak: it will be sh ZendStudio-5_1_0.bin or you can chmod +x the file then put ./ infront of the filename
[05:36] <RancidLM> hey all kinda off topic question i would like to play a video game system from a window on the screen i have a hauppauge capture card but unbuntu doesn't detect it.. first off would this work or would there be a massive delay?
[05:36] <sujan> are there any extra plugin that is required for that
[05:36] <stepanstas> blameless, i was on metacafe.com
[05:36] <php-freak> nows whats SH stand for?
[05:36] <stepanstas> it told me i needed it
[05:36] <xiechy> /exit
[05:36] <php-freak> okay says unpacking the jre file
[05:36] <blameless> stepanstas: so you clicked and installed it from inside of firefox?
[05:36] <matthew_> php-freak, it stands for SHell
[05:36] <kitche> php-freak: it's a shell but is used to run executables if you use bash or sh
[05:37] <stepanstas> i did both as a matter of fact
[05:37] <php-freak> grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:37] <php-freak> /tmp/install.dir.19440/Linux/resource/jre/bin/java: error while loading shared libraries: libpthread.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:37] <stepanstas> i believe first was the one outside
[05:37] <php-freak> I got that message right after it said launcing installer
[05:37] <blameless> stepanstas: do you have any bookmarks or stuff you need to save for firefox?
[05:37] <stepanstas> should i get rid of it?
[05:37] <blameless> stepanstas: i would try getting rid of it and see what that does
[05:38] <stepanstas> no, i didnt save anythign yet
[05:38] <kitche> php-freak: that libc.so.6 error isn't really good
[05:38] <blameless> stepanstas: open up a terminal and try a rm -rf ~/.mozilla  that will restore firefox to its inital configuration
[05:38] <blameless> stepanstas: it will also remove the flash 7 plugin
[05:38] <IdleOne> what package do I need to install to view files on my windows machine?
[05:38] <php-freak> kitche: what do you mean it not really good lol?
[05:38] <whalesalad> hey ive got another question. i have a macbook running osx and would like to connect to the server, which is not on the same subnet, using something more sophisticated than ftp so that I can browse and manage files almost like they were local. anyone know how I might do this?
[05:39] <kitche> php-freak: libc.so.6 is a lib that actually used by the linux base system
[05:39] <whis1> kitche: after getting linux-source (with ubuntu patches of course) fglrx was still not able to compile... i'm checking out logs now
[05:39] <kitche> php-freak: see what ls says
[05:39] <m0dY> how to make a shell script run in the background without being able to be killed even on ctrl+c ?
[05:40] <kitche> m0dy: ./<script> bg
[05:40] <blameless> whalesalad: i tend to just sync my directories back and forth
[05:40] <m0dY> kitche, i want it to be inserted in the script
[05:40] <whis1> i believe it goes wrong with /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_agpgart/firegl_wrap.c:1362: error: struct <anonymous> has no member named pud
[05:40] <whalesalad> blameless: ive considered that and it wont work, i guess ill just need to move the server onto the same subnet and use samba or something
[05:40] <m0dY> so you don't have to do it in execution
[05:41] <blameless> whalesalad: is this macos to a windows box?
[05:41] <php-freak> ktiche: wahts ls stand for
[05:41] <defrysk> list
[05:41] <php-freak> I can't remember that ones looks famaliar though
[05:41] <whis1> man ls
[05:41] <kitche> m0dY: php-freak: it means list directory contents sorta like dir in windows
[05:41] <php-freak> same as dir
[05:41] <whis1> php-freak: yes
[05:42] <m0dY> kitche ?!
[05:42] <kitche>  m0dY don't midn what I just said I had your name typed and din't realize it
[05:42] <php-freak> okay it says ZendStudio-5_1_0.bin
[05:42] <m0dY> kitche, np
[05:42] <sigp239> forget this....i'm going to wal-mart to buy windows....at least it works
[05:43] <doom> How can we submit packages to the repositories?
[05:43] <blameless> whalesalad: there is of course, openafs
[05:43] <matthew_> sigp239, you'll come back, they always do
[05:43] <zach634> lol @ sigp239
[05:43] <kitche> doom: look up contrib on the wiki it should tell you there someplace
[05:43] <doom> ok
[05:43] <defrysk> matthew_, no hes too smart for that :D
[05:43] <matthew_> defrysk, riiiiiiiigggggggghhhhhttttt
[05:43] <zach634> "<sigp239> $249.99? yeah right!"
[05:43] <matthew_> lol
[05:43] <php-freak> kitche: it says ZendStudio-5_1_0.bin
[05:44] <kitche> php-freak: hmm ok that works it odd that you got the libc.so.6 error maybe it has to deal with the libpthread.so perhaps
[05:44] <whis1> hmmm i still need help with errors on compiling agpart module if anyone can help
[05:44] <stepanstas> blameless: firefox doesnt want to launch now
[05:45] <php-freak> why is this a big deal?
[05:45] <blameless> stepanstas: what happens when you run it in a terminal?
[05:45] <whalesalad> blameless: this is os x to an ubuntu box (hence me being in the ubuntu room =]  )
[05:45] <stepanstas> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server - Xlib: No protocol specified - (firefox-bin:5517): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[05:45] <blameless> whalesalad: just checking :).  well you could set up openafs on the ubuntu box (as the server) and connect to it with an afs client on the os x box.  afs was always too complicated for me to setup though
[05:46] <LinuxHelp> Does the "sync" mount option for ext3 disable just write-behind or read-ahead as well?
[05:46] <stepanstas> i seperated enters by -
[05:46] <kitche> php-freak: see if you have libc installed
[05:46] <php-freak> lol how do I do that
[05:46] <JoshJ> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:46] <whalesalad> blameless: if its too complicated to setup its not gonna work :) i gotta do something totally seamless
[05:46] <JoshJ> imo
[05:46] <blameless> stepanstas: are you logged into that terminal as a different user than the one running X
[05:47] <stepanstas> not sure what you mean, i am the only user on this compu
[05:47] <kitche> php-freak: well you can look in your cache or use synatpic or aptitude to see if you have it installed
[05:47] <blameless> stepanstas: are you logged into the terminal as root?  is the prompt a $ or a #
[05:48] <stepanstas> its ~$
[05:48] <x-r00t-x> hey what i do . the gnome bar is hanged => urgent
[05:48] <stepanstas> btw, no programs are launching for some reason, should i restart?
[05:48] <blameless> try logging out and logging back in
[05:48] <php-freak> Ktiche: you done lost me on that one,
[05:48] <blameless> x probably needs to be restarted
[05:49] <x-r00t-x> then i will lost my all works :-S
[05:49] <stepanstas> k, be back
[05:49] <x-r00t-x> i need something like killall gnome-bar
[05:49] <kitche> php-freak: aptitude and synaptic is frontends package managers for apt
[05:49] <JoshJ> gnome-panel
[05:49] <matthew_> x-r00t-x, try logging out, hitting alt+e and logging back in
[05:49] <JoshJ> killall gnome-panel
[05:49] <x-r00t-x> its works :)
[05:49] <php-freak> kitche: i see, but what do I do?
[05:50] <JoshJ> in the future do ps -e to see a list of all the process
[05:50] <JoshJ> then kill it by number, much better that way
[05:50] <kitche> php-freak: in aptitude it should have a section that says installed programs and see if libc is installed
[05:50] <JoshJ> isn't libc a part of build-essential?
[05:51] <kitche> JoshJ: it should be part of the linux even not part of build-essential
[05:51] <JoshJ> heh
[05:51] <JoshJ> you mean GNU coreutils?
[05:51] <kitche> JoshJ: no it's it's own package
[05:51] <kitche> but a lot of applications need it like the base install
[05:51] <JoshJ> ah, you mean part of the distro, not part of the kernel
[05:52] <kitche> JoshJ: yeah since one time I upgraded my system and it broke do to libc was missing
[05:52] <stepanstas> hey blameless, im back
[05:52] <JoshJ> kitche: heh
[05:52] <php-freak> kitche: where do I go to see this info?
[05:52] <stepanstas> it was working untill i went on a site that needed the plugin
[05:53] <kitche> php-freak: you inside aptitude?
[05:53] <stepanstas> i installed it through firefox
[05:53] <stepanstas> and same problem
[05:53] <php-freak> lol
[05:53] <php-freak> ktiche: is it a folder, or what?
[05:53] <kitche> php-freak: aptitude is a program runs in cli
[05:53] <php-freak> okay im there
[05:53] <php-freak> I see
[05:53] <php-freak> nice
[05:53] <php-freak> so this is how i can see all the packages that are installed
[05:54] <kitche> php-freak: go inside the install programs section then go to base and see if libc is in there
[05:54] <php-freak> nope
[05:54] <whis1> hi where can i get dh_testdir
[05:54] <php-freak> how odd, I wonder why its missing that
[05:55] <stepanstas> blameless, what am i doing wrong?
[05:55] <gleesond> can someone tell me what the meta pkg is called for develpers... i.e. contains c c++ svn
[05:56] <LinuxHelp> Also, does data=ordered obsolete data=journal? Or is there still some merit to data=journal?
[05:56] <php-freak> kitche: how would I reinstall it
[05:56] <jrib> gleesond: you probably want build-essential.  subversion for svn
[05:57] <php-freak> kitche: or wait hold on
[05:57] <gleesond> jrib: thank you that is what I was looking for, just couldn't remember the name
[05:57] <grndslm> hey...i just got this Asus WL-500G Premium...but for some reason DHCP won't work on the LAN side
[05:58] <racarter> linux filesystems do not save the creation time of files
[05:58] <grndslm> It gives me a local IP address, but I couldn't hit the internet until I assigned myself a static ip
[05:58] <racarter> is that true?
[05:58] <php-freak> kitche: libc6 is under main fully supported software?
[06:00] <con-man> join #beryl
[06:00] <con-man> join #beryl
[06:00] <zm635> how can I access networked folders from the command line?
[06:00] <kitche> php-freak:  yeah you want libc6
[06:01] <php-freak> okay then update it?
[06:01] <php-freak> kitche: should I try updating it?
[06:01] <binarydigit> zm635: can you be more specific
[06:02] <kitche> php-freak: yeah since that's what you need to install Zendstudio
[06:02] <zm635> trying to use dd to backup this hard drive to a networked folder on a window machine accessable at smb://ZACH/Drop box 3/
[06:02] <IdleOne> I installed samba. now how do I access windows machine?
[06:02] <php-freak> Kitche: Do I need to restart anything after words
[06:03] <zm635> so like, if i wanted to change directory to it, what would I type after "cd"?
[06:03] <php-freak> Kitche: I updated it, and im still getting the same errors
[06:03] <fraiddo> hey, i would like know what can use for compare two files (php)
[06:04] <Misnix> fraiddo, diff
[06:04] <php-freak> kitche: you there?, is there something else I need to be updating?
[06:05] <orestyle5_> what is a good prgram to use in Ubuntu to import and edit videos from digital recorder?
[06:06] <binarydigit> zm635: did you mount the samba share
[06:06] <zm635> it's on the desktop, I dont know though how to do it through the command line though
[06:07] <JoshJ> ...heh
[06:07] <binarydigit> if you goto /mnt
[06:07] <binarydigit> do you see it listed there
[06:07] <zm635> nope
[06:07] <zm635> nothing is there
[06:08] <matthew_> try /media
[06:08] <matthew_> zm635, try /media
[06:08] <php-freak>  ktiche: you there?
[06:08] <zm635> nope, but isnt that just for cd's and like, usb drives?
[06:09] <matthew_> zm635, nope, I can see all my drives under that
[06:09] <hikenboot> hello all anyone got directions for installing the ddns module for webmin?  its all cgi scripts but i have no idea what to do with them
[06:09] <matthew_> zm635, under /meda
[06:09] <whis1> now i've got a bigger problem
[06:09] <whis1> (EE) fglrx(0): V_BIOS address 0x0 out of range
[06:09] <whis1> (EE) fglrx(0): PreInitInt10 failed
[06:09] <whis1> SetVBEMode failed
[06:09] <whis1> (EE) fglrx(0): R200PreInit failed
[06:09] <whis1> (II) fglrx(0): [06:09] <whis1> (II) UnloadModule: "fglrx"
[06:09] <zm635> !paste > whis1
[06:09] <whis1> sorry </
[06:09] <mrclark> quick silly question: where should i look for documentation on instaling ubuntu onto Intel core 2 duo system?
[06:09] <matthew_> !paste > matthew_
[06:09] <php-freak> any one know why im getting a libc6 error when trying to install this package?
[06:10] <php-freak> or opening this .bin?
[06:10] <whis1> because you need to install libc6
[06:10] <IdleOne> mrclark, www.ubuntu.com
[06:10] <IdleOne> try also wiki.ubuntu.org
[06:10] <mrclark> IdleOne, ah, didn't know about the wiki.
[06:12] <orestyle5_> where can I find a list of apt sources for Eft?
[06:12] <whis1> eek someone help with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35151/
[06:12] <nolimitsoya> does anyone know if transparent compression has been implementet for zfs for linux through fuse?
[06:12] <php-freak> any one know why im getting a libc6 error when trying to install this package?
[06:12] <nolimitsoya> *d
[06:12] <aioriadeleo> spanish?
[06:12] <nolimitsoya> php-freak, run apt-get install -f
[06:12] <php-freak> hold on
[06:13] <nolimitsoya> !es | aioriadeleo
[06:13] <ubotu> aioriadeleo: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:13] <php-freak> nolimitsoya: okay done
[06:14] <php-freak> nolimitsoya: should I try to run my .bin again?
[06:14] <nolimitsoya> php-freak, yes
[06:14] <mrclark> boneheaded question two: are core 2 systems ia64?  or would that be the older xeon stuff ?
[06:14] <nolimitsoya> mrclark, that would be x64
[06:14] <php-freak> nolimitsoya: same thing grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:14] <nolimitsoya> mrclark, ia64 is itanium
[06:15] <mrclark> nolimitsoya, ah, okay.  i'm out of the hardware loop..
[06:15] <nolimitsoya> php-freak, then i cant help you :) at least, i think not. what are you trying to do?
[06:15] <TehUni> i have a custom kernel that refuses to boot, but the generic one works fine. I'm trying to view the logs from the failed custom-kernel boot, but i dont see any traces. where else should i look other than /var/log/kern and /var/log/messages  ?
[06:15] <ISOLATEDViRuS> Between two evils, I always pick the one I never tried before.
[06:15] <ISOLATEDViRuS>   - Mae West
[06:15] <php-freak> nolimitsoya: install zend developers kit
[06:15] <php-freak> zend studio
[06:15] <mrclark> nolimitsoya, where do the x64 installers live? or is it just AMD64 stuff right now?
[06:16] <nolimitsoya> mrclark, amd64 is x64. intels current 64bit architecture is a photocopy of the amd one
[06:16] <Mixx`> are there instructions out there for how to (easily) upgrade to the 2.19 kernel?  I've looked and nothing seems tailored to ubuntu
[06:17] <mrclark> nolimitsoya, so using amd64 installers on an intel core 2 system is kosher?
[06:17] <Lapfunc> o
[06:17] <Lapfunc> lo
[06:17] <nolimitsoya> Mixx`, youd want feisty. anyway, a kernel is just dropin
[06:17] <nolimitsoya> mrclark, yes
[06:17] <mrclark> nolimitsoya, ah, great.  i shall inform my less-than-clueful friend that he's downloaded the wrong livecd, then :-)
[06:18] <nolimitsoya> mrclark, :P
[06:18] <zm635> How do I access a shared windows folder through the command line?
[06:18] <php-freak> how can i check what ubuntu version i have?
[06:18] <nolimitsoya> zm635, shared as in samba share? anyhow, id guess you just navigate to its mountpoint using cd <folder>
[06:18] <TehUni> php-freak: uname -r
[06:18] <whis1> uname -r
[06:18] <php-freak> now whats -r mean?
[06:18] <defrysk> release
[06:19] <zm635> nolimitsoya: yes, samba, but I don't know it's mount point
[06:19] <whis1> srsly someone help me out with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35151/
[06:19] <php-freak> 2.6.17-10-generic
[06:19] <php-freak> thats old version of unbuntu aint it?
[06:19] <defrysk> php-freak, try cat /etc/issue
[06:19] <whis1> don't matter for your problem
[06:19] <nolimitsoya> zm635, just cd /<where ever you want to go>. if you dont know where you want to go, youre out of luck, as always :)
[06:19] <php-freak> well I found out whats wrong
[06:20] <zm635> ...
[06:20] <php-freak> am I using a old version of ubuntu?
[06:20] <nolimitsoya> php-freak, no, thats current edgy
[06:20] <php-freak> http://www.zend.com/support/knowledgebase.php?kbid=226&view_only=1
[06:20] <php-freak> there where I went
[06:20] <php-freak> check it out
[06:20] <defrysk> uname -r gives kernel-version
[06:20] <defrysk> cat /etc/issue give you your ubuntu version
[06:20] <nolimitsoya> php-freak, your kernel version is the current edgy one. you are up to date
[06:20] <monsterb> Has anyone tried the game Pang Zero? I made a AMD64 edgy deb ... anyone want to test it??
[06:21] <nolimitsoya> zm635, ?
[06:21] <php-freak> I need to learn all these linux commands
[06:21] <zm635> you got fish faces that's ?
[06:21] <Mixx`> nolimitsoya - ok so it sounds like it's not recommended to try to upgrade edgy to 2.19 then
[06:21] <zm635> faced rather
[06:21] <zm635> :P
[06:21] <nolimitsoya> Mixx`, no, it isnt. if you realy must, its just a dropin anyways...
[06:22] <zm635> it's annoying that I can get to the folder with the gui, but not the cli
[06:22] <Elda> Bleh
[06:22] <nolimitsoya> zm635, just cd to the same dir you are in with your graphical filemanager. whats the problem?
[06:23] <zm635> it says the directory of the folder i'm in is "smb://zach/Drop%20Box%203"
[06:23] <stephans> there is a problem with ubuntu x server and rdesktop
[06:23] <zm635> which I cannot cd to
[06:23] <cnc> Hello ALL
[06:23] <Elda> Okey, I guess I installed teh wrong one as this one doesnt even show the user list >.<
[06:23] <Elda> Hello
[06:23] <stephans> dapper was ok
[06:23] <pradeep> hullo !
[06:23] <monsterb> hi
[06:23] <stephans> latest is not
[06:23] <php-freak> whats -s mean?
[06:23] <php-freak> super user?
[06:24] <nolimitsoya> zm635, try replacing the %20 with a space and slash (like this: ' \')
[06:24] <pradeep> php-freak, su is super user
[06:24] <zm635> still nothing
[06:24] <cnc> I am a new user on Ubuntu, trying to get free from Micro$oft in 2007
[06:24] <Elda> After re-installing this four times Im starting to get good at making basic edits o_o;
[06:24] <nolimitsoya> zm635, then im out of ideas :P
[06:24] <zm635> it doesnt recognise that smb:// is a folder
[06:24] <whis1> hi cnc
[06:25] <cnc> You guys tell me when can i make some questions about USB ok?
[06:25] <defrysk> !ask
[06:25] <nolimitsoya> !ask | cnc
[06:25] <whis1> cnc: go for it
[06:25] <zm635> damn, SOMEONE has got to have networked with a windows machine around here
[06:25] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:25] <ubotu> cnc: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:25] <Elda> Ive now memoriezed the process for reinstalling beryl, setting the color depth in xorg.conf, and setting up wireless >.<
[06:25] <monsterb> Any AMD64 gamers want to try out Pang Zero? I just made a fresh DEB file.
[06:25] <cnc> Oke, Well, my USB ports doesn' t work
[06:25] <zm635> aah, I love the smell of fresh DEB's in the morning
[06:25] <whis1> monsterb: does it require 3d acceleration
[06:25] <binarydigit> zm635: use the mount -t smbfs
[06:25] <cew_musik> surabaya
[06:25] <binarydigit> to mount it to a place you know of
[06:25] <orestyle5_> zm635:  what are you trying to do?
[06:25] <binarydigit> so you can cd to it
[06:25] <cnc> It woked on XP and some other linux distros
[06:26] <Elda> Though Im going to change irc clients as this version of ircx doesnt have the user list >.<
[06:26] <nolimitsoya> zm635, windows sharing is and has been so buggy the last ten-fifteen years, ive never bothered. ftp is the way to go :)
[06:26] <firefly2442> monsterb: do you have a website up for the game?
[06:26] <whis1> ten-fifteen :P
[06:26] <orestyle5_> zm635:  are you trying to connect to a windows 2003 server?
[06:26] <zm635> trying to use dd to backup this hard drive (currently on livecd) to a networked windows computer
[06:26] <zm635> shared folder on winxp
[06:27] <cwe_jomlo> surabaya
[06:27] <nolimitsoya> zm635, set up an ftpserver (using filezilla, fex) on the windows machine, and mount that on your linux box
[06:27] <cnc> Can you guys help me? I did the lsusb command, but noyhing hapened
[06:27] <zm635> eww
[06:27] <binarydigit> zm635: mount -t smbfs
[06:27] <orestyle5_> zm635:  we are connected to several windows servers.  We had to use something like mount -t cifs //windows/share /dev/sharename -o -username=name
[06:28] <orestyle5_> zm635:  then you should be prompted with password for windows network password.
[06:28] <cwe_jomblo> surabaya
[06:28] <maquis> hi!  I'm trying to add chinese language support to an existing ubuntu installation, and I've been having all types of problems.  My system won't let me change locales because the other locales don't exist.  Any suggestions?
[06:28] <monsterb> website: http://apocalypse.rulez.org/pangzero/Pang_Zero (source)    deb file : http://monsterb.org/pangzero_0.16-1_amd64.deb (need a tester - works great on my machice)
[06:29] <cnc> Anybody knows how to install USB ports on Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[06:29] <JoshJ> !chinese
[06:29] <cnc> lsusb returns nothing
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chinese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:30] <cnc> lspci shows the USBs
[06:30] <JoshJ> language-pack-gnome-zh and language-pack-gnome-zhbase
[06:30] <JoshJ> (replace gnome with kde if necessary)
[06:30] <maquis> JoshJ: any options if i don't use gnome or kde?
[06:31] <JoshJ> also language-pack-zh and language-pack-zhbase
[06:31] <JoshJ> er, zh-base
[06:31] <ice_cream> i just walked in, but kde...sigh
[06:31] <JoshJ> also language-support-zh is the metapackage
[06:31] <JoshJ> might solve all the problems in one go
[06:31] <JoshJ> or do the lazy thing and just do apt-cache search chinese and install everything under there... >_>
[06:31] <JoshJ> <_<
[06:31] <cnc> PLz help about my USB trouble
[06:32] <nolimitsoya> cnc, usb should Just Work (TM)
[06:32] <zm635> cnc: what exactly are you trying to do?
[06:32] <maquis> JoshJ: i tried looking in aptitude-search, but didn't find much...  i'll try again, though :)
[06:32] <JoshJ> apt-cache search
[06:32] <cnc> im trying to plug things there, but it just don' t detect
[06:32] <zm635> plug what?
[06:33] <cnc> printers, webcam, my p-93 Sony camera...
[06:33] <cnc> nothing is detected
[06:33] <zm635> cnc: well those are more driver related issues
[06:33] <cnc> other peripherals too, nothing hapens
[06:33] <nolimitsoya> cnc, what about mice?
[06:33] <nolimitsoya> keyboards, and such...
[06:34] <cnc> lsusb shows nothing, just returns a new line
[06:34] <nolimitsoya> are the port working at all?
[06:34] <cnc> I dnt have USM mice
[06:34] <nolimitsoya> if lsusb returns blank, id say you have a problem :)
[06:34] <nolimitsoya> :P
[06:34] <cnc> yep
[06:34] <cnc> thats what i told ya hauhauhau
[06:35] <nolimitsoya> are they enabled in bios? some motherboards have the option to disable usb, or limit them to certain modes
[06:35] <whis1> are you on a laptop or box?
[06:35] <cnc> but USB works on other linux and XP
[06:35] <php-freak> how do I delete a file under terminal, whats the command?
[06:35] <cnc> desktop
[06:35] <matthew_> php-freak, use rm
[06:35] <cnc> they are enabled on BIOS
[06:36] <monsterb> firefly2442, did you get the web address?
[06:36] <zm635> hell, i'll just do it in osx
[06:36] <whis1> cnc: this is a problem... hmm...
[06:36] <firefly2442> monsterb: yep thanks
[06:36] <magusknight> how do i uninstall nvidia drivers it keeps telling me that i need x sever
[06:36] <spx2> hello
[06:37] <nolimitsoya> magusknight, sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx
[06:37] <roostishaw> is the current version 6.10?
[06:37] <monsterb> firefly2442, cool ! let me know if it works
[06:37] <spx2> hello
[06:37] <spx2> anyone here ?
[06:37] <nolimitsoya> no
[06:37] <zm635> nope
[06:37] <nolimitsoya> all gone
[06:37] <zm635> aliens
[06:37] <spx2> yes i see...
[06:37] <orestyle5_> any recommendations (other than kino) for video editors and importers?  Kino is ok, but not working as expected...
[06:37] <magusknight> thank i try it
[06:37] <cnc> whisl: i searched for how to manual install USBs on web, but i didn' t foud how
[06:37] <nolimitsoya> orestyle5_, virtualdub?
[06:37] <zm635> ><
[06:37] <nolimitsoya> !usb
[06:37] <spx2> orestyle5_  try apt-cache search video edit
[06:37] <zm635> compy wont shut down
[06:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <firefly2442> monsterb: I've got a 64 bit CPU but it's running 32 bit kernel right now, but I'll try the 32 bit one :)
[06:38] <monsterb> spx2 hi
[06:38] <zm635> and i'm stuck just talking to you guys
[06:38] <nolimitsoya> zm635, be gratefull, its an omen :P
[06:38] <spx2> hi monsterb
[06:38] <firefly2442> orestyle5_: avidemux
[06:38] <whalesalad> hey guys, its me again. i just took my new server off of the public internet and moved it inside my network, but now i need to reconfigure it to work with DHCP (its a dev server, we dont really need it to be publicly acessable so dhcp will work fine)
[06:38] <whalesalad> how can i do that?
[06:38] <roostishaw> is the current version 6.10?
[06:38] <zm635> magical power button! save me!
[06:38] <nolimitsoya> roostishaw, yes
[06:38] <roostishaw> thanks
[06:38] <zm635> haha i took the livecd out
[06:38] <zm635> gg!
[06:38] <monsterb> firefly2442, it might only work on AMD64
[06:39] <zm635> it's silly, it ejects, then sucks back in
[06:39] <nolimitsoya> whalesalad, open up you network configuration, and just select the interface you want to configure; change it to dhcp :)
[06:39] <Mitso> hi
[06:39] <cnc> Anybody knows what is the arquive to configure USB ports ?
[06:39] <spx2> whalesalad maybe network-admin is what you need...
[06:39] <spx2> monsterb ?
[06:39] <whalesalad> nolimitsoya: this is the server distrobution, no gui :) how can I reconfigure the box from the command line
[06:39] <Mitso> im new to this and i need to find a room how do i search it?
[06:40] <monsterb> firefly2442, why are you running a 32bit kernel??
[06:40] <firefly2442> monsterb: do you have it in the Ubuntu software repositories?
[06:40] <nolimitsoya> whalesalad, man ifconfig, perhaps? :)
[06:40] <firefly2442> monsterb: I wanted to be safe and make sure my apps would run
[06:40] <cnc> plz guys, I need to use USB, or i can' t leave Window$ in 2007
[06:40] <spx2> cnc so ?
[06:40] <cnc> so... How can i get my USB ports alive?
[06:40] <monsterb> firefly2442, no not in repo
[06:41] <binarydigit> they are alive
[06:41] <whalesalad> well first step is plugging a monitor into this sucker since I cant connect to it via ssh anymore :) but isnt there some console utility I can run, similar to the installer that will do this? (you can do it with redhad, and im pretty sure I did it once with ubuntu)
[06:41] <cnc> nope
[06:41] <cnc> lsusb returns nothing
[06:41] <spx2> cnc they are autodetected...actually..
[06:41] <cnc> theyre ON on BIOS
[06:41] <binarydigit> do you have anything plugged into them
[06:41] <orestyle5_> spx2:  the point of comming to the channel is to get help.   That is the only way people are gonna move from windows...
[06:41] <cnc> on XP and other LIN distros they works
[06:41] <monsterb> spx2 what's up?
[06:41] <nolimitsoya> cnc, i have no idea. make a post in the forums, and perhaps file a bugreport on launchpad. also, try out dapper, if you are on edgy now
[06:41] <nolimitsoya> or vice versa
[06:41] <spx2> whalesalad vector linux has this utility its called netcardconfig
[06:41] <cnc> I have a webcam now there
[06:42] <cnc> but nothing hapens
[06:42] <cnc> no printer too
[06:42] <cnc> no P93 Sony too
[06:42] <cnc> Nothing
[06:42] <CzarAlex> Anyone able to get .m4v files to play?
[06:42] <binarydigit> when you plug them in, anything show up in dmesg?
[06:42] <spx2> monsterb well...my eyes are really red...because i stood up all night again without doing next to nothing...
[06:42] <cnc> nothing on dmesg too
[06:42] <orestyle5_> cnc:  reinstall, maybe it will install second time
[06:42] <rummik> is 6.06 not recieving updates?
[06:42] <umista> is there a way to upgrade firefox from 1.5 > 2.0 with 6.06?
[06:42] <cnc> 3rt time installation dudes
[06:42] <spx2> czaralex frate m4v sau mv4 ?
[06:43] <cnc> on lspci it works
[06:43] <firefly2442> umista: backports?
[06:43] <cnc> theyre there
[06:43] <CzarAlex> spx2: Sorry. im not familiar with those abbreviations.
[06:43] <peanutb> how would i generate the MD5 hashes for many files in a directory for a package?
[06:43] <cnc> lspci command on terminal
[06:43] <spx2> czaralex did you mean m4v or mv4 ?
[06:43] <orestyle5_> cnc:  so you have installed several times with no luck.  so none of the usb ports work?
[06:44] <monsterb> spx2, sit down for a little
[06:44] <CzarAlex> spx2: m4v video files. i think they're for ipods.
[06:44] <umista> backports?
[06:44] <php-freak> isn't there linux certifications?
[06:44] <cnc> theyre shown on dmesg
[06:44] <cnc> but nothing is detected there
[06:45] <cnc> or nothing returns on lsusb command
[06:45] <orestyle5_> cnc:  and when you plug something into them (mouse, thumb drive, etc) nothing happens?
[06:45] <firefly2442> umista: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40291
[06:45] <nolimitsoya> CzarAlex, try vlc :)
[06:45] <spx2> monsterb i'm really tired,i'm more like wasted
[06:45] <binarydigit> cnc: is usbcore loaded in lsmod
[06:45] <magusknight> as i boot up i get a blue screen saying x server failed to start. i have gnome installed
[06:45] <spx2> monsterb where you from ,i'm from romania
[06:45] <cnc> im listening a radio on web now, when i plug something on USB, the sound just make sme stops
[06:45] <CzarAlex> nolimitsoya: sudo apt-get install vlc?
[06:45] <nolimitsoya> CzarAlex, yes :)
[06:46] <monsterb> spx2 usa
[06:46] <cnc> usbcore               105732  3 usb_storage,ohci_hcd
[06:46] <cnc> usbcore is there
[06:46] <orestyle5_> cnc:  onboard usb or pci?
[06:46] <cnc> onboard
[06:46] <nolimitsoya> magusknight, edit your xorg.conf, or run nvidia-glx-config if youve recently installed nvidia-glx
[06:46] <spx2> czaralex read http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=449323
[06:46] <CzarAlex> spx2: will do. thanky.
[06:46] <whalesalad> ok heres my question, restated in a different way. I have no gui, no gnome, no kde. I have a server install of Edgy Eft. Right now it is configued for a static ip, I need to configure it to work with DHCP and automatically recieve an ip from my router. is tehre a place I can go to figure out how to do this, or is there someone here to help me
[06:47] <binarydigit> cnc: try modprobe uhci_hcd and echi_hcd
[06:48] <nolimitsoya> whalesalad, perhaps this will help you? :) -> http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/custom-guide/s1-dhcp-configuring-client.html
[06:48] <spx2> whalesalad do you have a dhcp server running on your server ?
[06:48] <CzarAlex> nolimitsoya: vlc worked! thanks.
[06:48] <whalesalad> spx2: no, i need the server configured as a dhcp client
[06:48] <orestyle5_> cnc:  this is long shot, but I wonder if the drivers are loading too soon.  I had issues with system loading drivers in debian, I had to compile kernel with specific drivers
[06:48] <nolimitsoya> CzarAlex, np :)
[06:48] <spx2> whalesalad are you sure that's what you want ?
[06:49] <whalesalad> yes, im certain
[06:49] <whalesalad> its a dev box
[06:49] <cnc> FATAL: Module echi_hcd not found.
[06:49] <spx2> whalesalad what's a dev box supposed to mean ?
[06:49] <nolimitsoya> spx2, i think ha want a dhcp _client_, for his server machine :)
[06:49] <cnc> the other returns nothing
[06:49] <Dreamglider> heita svarti fani.
[06:49] <firefly2442> spx2: development?
[06:49] <whalesalad> its a developer box, im a web developer, this isnt going to be a production machine, its on my internal network, so I need DHCP
[06:49] <cnc> how can i recompile the drivers?
[06:49] <nolimitsoya> whalesalad, did you check out the link?
[06:50] <whalesalad> yea
[06:50] <spx2> whalesalad yes ,but "web developing" is not quite developing,it's more near to "loosing time for money"
[06:50] <binarydigit> cnc: sorry ehci_hcd
[06:50] <nolimitsoya> whalesalad, was i helpfull?
[06:50] <whalesalad> spx2: what exactly are you getting at? if you can help me help me, if not shut up, i dont need your snide comments.
[06:50] <whalesalad> nolimitsoya: im reading over it, one second
[06:50] <cnc> ehci_hcd returns nothing too
[06:51] <spx2> whalesalad give me root on the dhcp box
[06:51] <jldugger> hey, my emacs font is all screwy after upgrading to edgy.  i get "Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font" when launched from console. any pointers to the wiki?
[06:51] <whalesalad> spx2: wow, you sure are funny
[06:51] <nolimitsoya> !coc spx2 :)
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about coc spx2 :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <spx2> whalesalad i am not so funny,i am just serious
[06:51] <nolimitsoya> !coc | spx2 :)
[06:51] <ubotu> spx2 :): The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[06:51] <binarydigit> cnc: i dont think you will see anything, check dmesg
[06:51] <cnc> ah... OK
[06:51] <spx2> I WAAAAAAAANT ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTT MOTHER FUCKER
[06:52] <cnc> Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
[06:52] <cnc> usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
[06:53] <cnc> USB Mass Storage support registered.
[06:53] <cnc> USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.3
[06:53] <binarydigit> nice
[06:53] <cnc> how can i check what is plugged on USB?
[06:53] <orestyle5_> binarydigit:  wow, where did you find those commands?
[06:53] <cnc> lsusb returs nothing yet
[06:54] <binarydigit> orestyle5_: uhhh?
[06:54] <cnc> my USB ports dont work
[06:54] <orestyle5_> binarydigit:  for the usb issue?
[06:54] <cnc> they just shows nothing
[06:54] <cnc> it worked on XP and other LIN distros
[06:55] <binarydigit> cnc: did you try replugging in usb devices now
[06:55] <magusknight> where is xorg.conf located?
[06:55] <binarydigit> /etc/X11/
[06:55] <nolimitsoya> magusknight, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:55] <eyequeue> i keep running into the same problem every few months and never seem to recall how i fixed it the last time.  (a couple of hours of hair-pulling each time)
[06:55] <binarydigit> orestyle5_: didn't really "find" them, they are just commands for kernel modules
[06:55] <cnc> nothing on dmesg again
[06:56] <Laosboyme> somebody know how to put glass effect on ubuntu?
[06:56] <magusknight> exit
[06:56] <eyequeue> running apache2, i seem to have some "wildcard" feature on one of my vhosts, but can't seem to see where to disable it
[06:56] <cnc> but on lsusb it need to show something , right?
[06:56] <umista> sweet found a nice little script thats doing it for me.
[06:56] <nolimitsoya> Laosboyme, check out beryl, and muirine
[06:56] <Laosboyme> how will i install it?
[06:57] <cnc> but lsusb just returns a new line
[06:57] <eyequeue> does this ring any bells with someone?
[06:57] <johnram> monsterb ?
[06:57] <orestyle5_> binarydigit:  so they basically will reload modules that might not have been loaded my the kernel or missed at startup?
[06:57] <umista> so now i have 6.06 up and running wht should i be learnin on linux?
[06:57] <johnram> how are you monsterb ?
[06:57] <johnram> are you well ?
[06:57] <monsterb> johnram, hi ok and u?
[06:57] <orestyle5_> binarydigit:  I am learning too, but most of what I do is with Debian Sarge.  Always learning....
[06:57] <johnram> monsterb you know...the good life...at the side of the sea...i'm with ma bitch...
[06:57] <nolimitsoya> umista, what ever you want to. :) start going about your regular routine (mailing, surfing, listening to music) and pick up the bits and pieces as you go along
[06:58] <cnc> Where can i see the USB config on UBUNTU?
[06:58] <cnc> or Sarge?
[06:58] <cnc> On other LINUX distros it works
[06:58] <wastrel> "Ubunto Lunix"
[06:58] <cnc> but not on UBUNTU
[06:58] <umista> so is there a way to exculde programs from working with berly?
[06:58] <nolimitsoya> cnc, then file a bug on lauchpad
[06:58] <binarydigit> orestyle5_: check out the man pages on modprobe and insmod
[06:58] <monsterb> !usb
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <wastrel> cnc:  what doesn't work on ubuntu?
[06:58] <eyequeue> i can identify which of the sites in sites-enabled it is sending me to, by creating dummy files in each vhost and seeing which files show up when i browse to the newly-created vhost ... it is NOT the one i just created of course
[06:59] <cnc> My USB ports just dont work
[06:59] <eyequeue> what is my next step?
[06:59] <orestyle5_> binarydigit:  will do Thanks!
[06:59] <johnram> monsterb you want to come to our developer party ? we bring 30 fresh bitches
[06:59] <wastrel> cnc:  are your usb modules running?
[06:59] <cnc> Can you help with USB config ?
[06:59] <eyequeue> language > johnram
[06:59] <cnc> i think, how can i check?
[06:59] <johnram> monsterb ?
[06:59] <wastrel> cnc:  lsmod | grep usb
[07:00] <aciid_trojan> when i installed unbuntu server it didnt ask me to set a root password. anyone got anyideas on what it could be?
[07:00] <wastrel> !root | aciid_trojan
[07:00] <ubotu> aciid_trojan: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:00] <blake_> hi all, I just installed Ubuntu edgy on to a 300gb sata hdd. now when I reboot, it says Grub 1.5Read Error and it will not go any further. I tried reinstalling grub with some instructions in google but it didn't work. Can anyone help?
[07:00] <eyequeue> !root > aciid_trojan
[07:00] <ivx> hey how would ubuntu do with controlling a battery backup via usb
[07:00] <nolimitsoya> whalesalad, hows it comin' along?
[07:00] <aciid_trojan> ook thanks very much
[07:00] <cnc> scsi_mod              119016  1 usb_storage
[07:00] <johnram> blake_ maybe you should have turned on that LVM thing ?
[07:00] <cnc> usbcore               105732  5 ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd,usb_storage,ohci_hcd
[07:00] <nolimitsoya> whalesalad, you might also want to take a peek at /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[07:01] <wastrel> cnc:  don't paste in here!
[07:01] <blake_> johnram: are you talking about in the BIOS? or when I install ubuntu?
[07:01] <nolimitsoya> !pastebin | cnc
[07:01] <ubotu> cnc: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:01] <cnc> S o r r y  . . . . .
[07:01] <johnram> blake_ when you install ...
[07:01] <wastrel> but yes, so your usb modules are running
[07:01] <blake_> johnram: how do I enable it?
[07:01] <wastrel> cnc:  what about lsusb  do you get interesting output?
[07:01] <johnram> blake_ probably some kernel parameters...
[07:01] <monsterb> language > johnram
[07:01] <cnc> lsusb returns noth8ing
[07:02] <rummik> i just installed gcc, but when i go to configure qemu it says that gcc either isn't installed or it doesn't work, what should i do?
[07:02] <johnram> monsterb what is the matter ?
[07:02] <johnram> rummik depends on what ver of gcc qemu wants ...
[07:02] <wastrel> cnc:  nothing at all?
[07:03] <rummik> johnram: i installed gcc 3.4
[07:03] <cnc> wastrel: just annother line
[07:03] <wastrel> cnc what about dmesg | grep usb
[07:03] <whalesalad> nolimitsoya: fixed it, thanks to the howtoforge :) just had to enter this into my /etc/network/interfaces file
[07:03] <whalesalad> auto eth0
[07:03] <whalesalad> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[07:03] <whalesalad> thanks for your help though
[07:03] <nolimitsoya> why is there no compressing filsystem for linux? my 2gb installation makes a 650mb tar with some simple deflation. thats a mayor reduction in hdd seektime, where it on a compressing filesystem.
[07:03] <aciid_trojan> !root doesnt work as root password
[07:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about root doesnt work as root password - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <johnram> cnc don't worry i have a pretty similar problem and i lost an entire night trying to solve it and got nowhere,so just post somewhere on a forum and pray to god that someone answers you
[07:03] <nolimitsoya> whalesalad, good :)
[07:03] <johnram> rummik and what ver does qemu need ?
[07:04] <cnc> i am on 3rd week
[07:04] <rummik> johnram: i was told 3.4 was recommended
[07:04] <johnram> whalesalad you've got it done without giving me root ? :)
[07:04] <cnc> no forum solved yet
[07:04] <cnc> plz guys help
[07:04] <cnc> dmesg | grep usb returns 3 lines
[07:04] <Rookie_> try dhcpcd instead - more stable
[07:04] <johnram> cnc post on ubuntuforums.org with details,then give us link
[07:04] <protolnx> hi
[07:04] <nolimitsoya> cnc, again, have you filed a bug against this?
[07:05] <cnc> shows new driver for: usbfs, hub and usb-storage
[07:05] <firefly2442> nolimitsoya: compressing a filesystem and uncompressing is pretty taxing on the CPU
[07:05] <johnram> rummik so what error is it giving ?
[07:05] <protolnx> can I use an older version of DRI with ubuntu? I mean donwgrade my dri? The current X driver is fucked up beyond anything
[07:05] <eyequeue> aciid_trojan, read the url the bot gave you,m for explanation
[07:05] <nolimitsoya> firefly2442, with the power computers pack these days, hdds are a far greater bottleneck. besides, simple deflates arnt that taxing
[07:05] <cnc> how fil a bug ?
[07:05] <rummik> johnram: "ERROR: "gcc" either does not exist or does not work"
[07:05] <nolimitsoya> firefly2442, id just like the option :)
[07:06] <cnc> Sorry im new on linux, trying to get free from Micro$oft in 2007
[07:06] <johnram> rummik try to run the command gcc in a console and tell me the output
[07:06] <nolimitsoya> cnc, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/
[07:06] <PFA> has flash 9 been updated since, say, september?
[07:06] <johnram> i need some help on this -->> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311462
[07:06] <nolimitsoya> PFA, dont know, exept it just hit the repos :)
[07:07] <eyequeue> PFA, are you fluent in apache2 NameVirtualHosts?
[07:07] <rummik> johnram: just trying to run gcc says "bash: gcc: command not found"
[07:07] <PFA> nolimitsoya: haha, ooh, thanks
[07:07] <PFA> eyequeue: uh, why would i be?
[07:07] <binarydigit> cnc: did you install edgy or dapper
[07:07] <eyequeue> PFA, because you know all? ;-)
[07:07] <PFA> nolimitsoya: is this for edgy or dapper??
[07:07] <PFA> eyequeue: since when??!?!? :S *confused!*
[07:07] <nolimitsoya> PFA, at least edgy. dont know abou dapper
[07:07] <aciid_trojan> what could the root password be apart from !root?
[07:07] <cnc> I have UBUNTU 6.06
[07:08] <johnram> rummik well now,it is clear now that you do not have gcc installed,so qemu is trustworthy and is is understandable when it says it doesnt finds it...
[07:08] <nolimitsoya> PFA, id think theyll want to go easy on dapper :)
[07:08] <eyequeue> aciid_trojan, READ the url the bot gave you, for explanation
[07:08] <firefly2442> rummik: sudo apt-get install gcc
[07:08] <fgeller> hi, can i ask questions about edgy here?
[07:08] <jdahm> Does NetworkManager only work in gnome or kde?
[07:08] <johnram> rummik do apt-cachea search gcc
[07:08] <PFA> fgeller: yep
[07:08] <PFA> fgeller: just ask ;)
[07:08] <jdahm> because I cant get it to fun in a dock otherwise
[07:08] <fgeller> PFA: thanks :)
[07:08] <nolimitsoya> cnc, get the live cd for edgy (6.10) and see if it works. still, file a bug on lauchpad agains dapper.
[07:08] <eyequeue> PFA, i'm just running out of ideas here, not trying to confuse you, colour me desperate
[07:08] <rummik> johnram: well, that spits out a large bit of info
[07:09] <PFA> eyequeue: haha, sorry
[07:09] <blake_> I just installed ubuntu but I am getting Grub loading Stage 1.5 Read error when I boot. please help anyone?
[07:09] <cnc> I need UBUNTU 6.06 becaus i need the EMC software
[07:09] <cnc> This is a CNC, machine control
[07:09] <PFA> nolimitsoya: this seems to be the flash version i already had...????????
[07:09] <cnc> for milling and lathing
[07:09] <johnram> rummik do you want to install an old or a new version of qemu(old=at least 2 years old,new =now)
[07:09] <Dragutin00> i installed a program through wine on the root account-- how do i make a shortcut to this with the user accnt?
[07:09] <johnram> ?
[07:09] <nolimitsoya> cnc, and why wouldnt that run on edgy?
[07:09] <johnram> dragutin00 use ln -s
[07:09] <firefly2442> blake_: do you have other operating systems installed?
[07:09] <nolimitsoya> PFA, might very well be :)
[07:10] <php-freak> You know what I'm going to do guys, so I know, and remember what every command does on linux. Make flash cards :)
[07:10] <cnc> but thanks, i will download the 6.10 live-cd
[07:10] <Dragutin00> before the command?
[07:10] <cnc> www.linuxcnc.org
[07:10] <PFA> nolimitsoya: but i dont remember updating it from the update manager.... nothing has updated for a couple of days
[07:10] <rummik> johnram: i used synaptic to install it, and the command you had me run had this little bit in it: "gcc-m68hc1x - GNU C compiler for the Motorola 68HC11/12 processors"
[07:10] <Zac1> I just installed lincity and where is it
[07:10] <blake_> firefly2442: I had windows vista beta installed, then I re-partitioned it during ubuntu setup and removed vista
[07:10] <eyequeue> PFA, i've got a vhost sending me to http://planet when i'm asking for http://falcon, which i can tell based on the files in it.  very frustrating as i can't find the reason
[07:10] <johnram> dragutin00 just go to console and type man ln , and read
[07:10] <Dragutin00> ok
[07:10] <Dragutin00> thanks
[07:10] <firefly2442> blake_: just a guess but your Master Boot Record might be screwed up
[07:11] <johnram> rummik what in gods name has that to do  with synaptic ?
[07:11] <johnram> WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING HERE ?
[07:11] <johnram> WHAT THE FUCK ?
[07:11] <johnram> WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT ?
[07:11] <jdahm> whats goin' on?
[07:11] <monsterb> cnc: when you type lsusb - what does it say?
[07:11] <johnram> I DON'T UNDERASTN
[07:11] <PFA> eyequeue: i have no idea, sorry
[07:11] <fgeller> i'm trying to install the multimedia support by using automatix2, but for example the extra fonts fail to install raising an error message that msttcorefonts has no installation candidate, and similarily for mplayer
[07:12] <mygwhqp> !ops
[07:12] <ftjdrifrrjon> !ops
[07:12] <dfpphjbwxamk> !ops
[07:12] <baiwbc> !ops
[07:12] <dwveqlsl> !ops
[07:12] <bakresobms> !ops
[07:12] <cwzuolqzhdhs> !ops
[07:12] <mnmmje> !ops
[07:12] <nqceecwmnt> !ops
[07:12] <sjizrwqthf> !ops
[07:12] <plwijjsvz> !ops
[07:12] <xiyqosw> !ops
[07:12] <rovglsoanma> !ops
[07:12] <sadxlo> !ops
[07:12] <kvhituuhu> !ops
[07:12] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez or gnomefreak!
[07:12] <wuccixjz> !ops
[07:12] <epuxdomye> !ops
[07:12] <blake_> firefly2442: I had windows vista beta installed, then I re-partitioned it during ubuntu setup and removed vista
[07:12] <PFA> !language | johnram
[07:12] <ubotu> johnram: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:12] <PFA> johnram: just ignore it... and dont swear
[07:12] <johnram> ubotu shut up
[07:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shut up - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:12] <protolnx> is this being hacked?
[07:12] <Zac1> STOP\
[07:12] <protolnx> something wrong?
[07:12] <defrysk> !help
[07:12] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:12] <defrysk> !ops
[07:12] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez or gnomefreak!
[07:13] <qwqnbqtrhk> !ops
[07:13] <mygwhqp> !ops
[07:13] <ftjdrifrrjon> !ops
[07:13] <bakresobms> !ops
[07:13] <dfpphjbwxamk> !ops
[07:13] <vuliam> !ops
[07:13] <bnovipjsos> !ops
[07:13] <wcqxjfagrt> !ops
[07:13] <baiwbc> !ops
[07:13] <dwveqlsl> !ops
[07:13] <nqceecwmnt> !ops
[07:13] <cwzuolqzhdhs> !ops
[07:13] <nmwhrjbkacoi> !ops
[07:13] <mnmmje> !ops
[07:13] <plwijjsvz> !ops
[07:13] <sjizrwqthf> !ops
[07:13] <vdghqszhq> !ops
[07:13] <melmgqu> !ops
[07:13] <xiyqosw> !ops
[07:13] <epuxdomye> !ops
[07:13] <kvhituuhu> !ops
[07:13] <wetseou> !ops
[07:13] <wuccixjz> !ops
[07:13] <sadxlo> !ops
[07:13] <PFA> !ops
[07:13] <fgeller> does anyone know what that would be? i also tried to do it manually following the tutorial at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories but i still get the  same error messages
[07:13] <rovglsoanma> !ops
[07:13] <protolnx> WTF??!!!11
[07:13] <eyequeue> PFA, no problem, i solved this once, months back, so i know there's a fix, i just can't ever remember it :/
[07:13] <protolnx> can I use an older version of DRI with ubuntu? I mean donwgrade my dri? The current X driver is fucked up beyond anything
[07:13] <rummik> johnram: err...scratch that, i copied the wrong line, try this "gcc-3.4 - The GNU C compiler"
[07:13] <Zac1> !help
[07:13] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:13] <defrysk> is this netsplit or a scriptkiddie ?
[07:13] <firefly2442> blake_: hmm, well as long as you installed Ubuntu after you removed Vista I would think it should work
[07:14] <PFA> DBO: GNAA -_-'
[07:14] <nolimitsoya> defrysk, id go for a netsplit :)
[07:14] <wastrel> scriptkiddie
[07:14] <PFA> nope just GNAA crap
[07:15] <elkbuntu> scriptkiddie
[07:15] <elkbuntu> DBO, thanks, sorry
[07:15] <elkbuntu> this is not a netsplit
[07:15] <eyequeue> oh my, the zombies are invoking !ops themselves now?!  cute
[07:15] <eyequeue> defrysk, the latter, basically
[07:15] <fgeller> did someone get to see my messages?
[07:15] <defrysk> fgeller, nope
[07:16] <fgeller> -_-
[07:16] <fgeller> i'm trying to install the multimedia support by using automatix2, but for example the extra fonts fail to install raising an error message that msttcorefonts has no installation candidate, and similarily for mplayer
[07:16] <fgeller> does anyone know what that would be? i also tried to do it manually following the tutorial at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories but i still get the  same error messages
[07:16] <defrysk> !automatix | fgeller
[07:16] <ubotu> fgeller: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:16] <nolimitsoya> !automatix | fgeller
[07:16] <Red_Death> lol
[07:16] <fgeller> okok
[07:16] <fgeller> :P
[07:16] <Red_Death> rains have given way to floods
[07:16] <fgeller> than disregard the automatix thing
[07:17] <DBO> elkbuntu, op up the fun isnt over...
[07:17] <fgeller> same thing happens if i follow the quoted guide though
[07:17] <defrysk> fgeller, read this discussion on automatix : http://blogs.ubuntu-nl.org/dennis/2006/10/29/how-healthy-is-your-ubuntu-system/
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[07:17] -odvyjhalggo:#ubuntu-  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] <hoqepui>  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] -chvutz:#ubuntu-  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] <qpqbyggjrsn>  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] <qyzgcj>  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] -aogobteedya:#ubuntu-  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] <nhkkievkj>  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] <qydxrb>  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] -jihikczjfkbn:#ubuntu-  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] -tgoqrg:#ubuntu-  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] -fwlicj:#ubuntu-  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] -lmdzfwzdnh:#ubuntu-  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] -hgcrjmrqf:#ubuntu-  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] <jejniqawv>  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] -jmalonuchazl:#ubuntu-  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] <iscmctgptccl>  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] <ufdassrwofc>  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] -bjqpuorv:#ubuntu-  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] -nhkkievkj:#ubuntu-  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] <mpcdjgxgprn>  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] <esggjanr>  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] -esggjanr:#ubuntu-  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] <oroxpfnybzh>  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] -oroxpfnybzh:#ubuntu-  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] <hjlfpwdfwv>  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] -hjlfpwdfwv:#ubuntu-  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] -iscmctgptccl:#ubuntu-  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] <klajjetgyfs>  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] -klajjetgyfs:#ubuntu-  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] <oroxpfnybzh> ACTION  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECO
[07:17] <vcjbzwlgvtu> ACTION  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE D
[07:17] <hgcrjmrqf> ACTION  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] <lmdzfwzdnh> ACTION  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE 
[07:17] <jihikczjfkbn> ACTION  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECO
[07:17] <phkdvwqmxxc> ACTION  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] <nhkkievkj> ACTION  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECO
[07:17] <bjqpuorv> ACTION  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DEC
[07:17] <aogobteedya> ACTION  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE D
[07:17] -ufdassrwofc:#ubuntu-  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] -gucpuzpg:#ubuntu-  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] <gucpuzpg> ACTION  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DE
[07:17] -qpqbyggjrsn:#ubuntu-  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] <qpqbyggjrsn> ACTION  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE
[07:17] -hoqepui:#ubuntu-  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
[07:17] -jejniqawv:#ubuntu-  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %%  GOT THE DECORATORS IN?? %% GOT THE DECOR
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[07:17] <fgeller> mpf
[07:18] <fgeller> guess this is not the time to ask questions mh
[07:19] <joejaxx> what type of question?
[07:19] <defrysk> fgeller, read this discussion on automatix : http://blogs.ubuntu-nl.org/dennis/2006/10/29/how-healthy-is-your-ubuntu-system/
[07:20] <defrysk> anyone else too for that matter
[07:20] <fgeller> defrysk: i only tried automatix after the ubuntuguide didn't work
[07:20] <fgeller> defrysk: i don't really need/want to use it either
[07:20] <defrysk> fgeller, ubuntuguide is also not an ideal resource
[07:20] <fgeller> defrysk: but apt-get seems to not find some packages
[07:20] <firebird619> My monitors native resolution is 1680x1050, however, in system, preferences, screen resolution, the highest resolution listed is 1280x1024. 1680x1050 is listed in xorg.conf. How can I get it to use the native resolution.
[07:21] <nolimitsoya> fgeller, you need to enable repositories
[07:21] <fgeller> defrysk: well where should i go then to install simple multimedia support and msttcorefonts
[07:21] <binarydigit> firebird619: paste your xorg.conf to pastebin
[07:21] <cmweb> finaly some new ops
[07:21] <fgeller> nolimitsoya: i do have like 12 entries in sources.list -- is there a way to find out what repository supposedly has the packages i'm looking for
[07:22] <defrysk> !mp3 | fgeller
[07:22] <ubotu> fgeller: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:22] <defrysk> !msttcorefonts | fgeller
[07:22] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[07:22] <nolimitsoya> fgeller, add universe and multiverse to those lines
[07:22] <fgeller> nolimitsoya: they are there
[07:22] <defrysk> fgeller, and listen to nolimitsoya
[07:23] <fgeller> let me paste the sources.list into a pastebin?
[07:23] <nolimitsoya> fgeller, then do sudo apt-get update
[07:23] <nolimitsoya> fgeller, btw, are you running edgy or dapper?
[07:24] <firebird619> binarydigit: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35154/
[07:24] <defrysk> fgeller, you already have automatix installed ?
[07:24] <fgeller> nolimitsoya: edgy
[07:25] <nolimitsoya> fgeller, good. then everything you need is in the repos :)
[07:25] <fgeller> defrysk: yes
[07:25] <defrysk> fgeller, ouch
[07:25] <nolimitsoya> fgeller, then youre in troublle :P
[07:25] <madewokherd> can someone VERSION-flood the channel again? I want to know if I fixed my client properly
[07:25] <defrysk> fgeller, you might be in trouble then :(
[07:25] <fgeller> defrysk: hehe you guys make it sound like a crime
[07:25] <Zehrila> Hello everyone!
[07:25] <defrysk> fgeller, not a crime just a major problem
[07:25] <nolimitsoya> fgeller, as said by ubuntu, i can break thing. badly sp,
[07:25] <nolimitsoya> *so
[07:26] <Zehrila> Well, I've managed setting up ubuntu after a few dozen tries and retries, and am now having problems going online from it.
[07:26] <defrysk> fgeller, /j #automatix for help or maybe a reinstall after backing up might be a plan
[07:26] <Zehrila> I can't seem to connect using my dialup modem, from the list where all network connection methods are given where we have to check/uncheck the entries to connect/disconnect.
[07:26] <fgeller> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35155/
[07:27] <Zehrila> Is there any alternative method like a conventional dial-up program?
[07:27] <Zehrila> My modem seems to be detected since it shows up in that list.
[07:27] <fgeller> pretty sure i got all the repos in there that i would need for something like msttcorefonts, or am i missing some
[07:27] <Zehrila> Now why would anyone be lame enough to flood THIS channel?
[07:27] <xanavim> what's going on in #ubuntu?
[07:27] <fgeller> should i remove automatix then
[07:28] <nolimitsoya> ok, did anyone ask me something before i dropped out?
[07:28] <vader1102> DBO sorry bout that lol
[07:28] <Zehrila> No clue.
[07:29] <fgeller> nolimitsoya: probably me asking whether i should remove automatix because i didn't get to read your replies
[07:29] <fgeller> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35155/
[07:29] <JoshJ> !op
[07:29] <defrysk> fgeller, it cannot be removed!! thats the joy of automatix
[07:29] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez or gnomefreak!
[07:29] <Zehrila> Though I have something to ask you now. =] 
[07:29] <JoshJ> or nvm, elkbuntu is here already
[07:29] <xanavim> this is weird.  /quit wouldn't work... is someone hacking this server?
[07:29] <defrysk> fgeller, its not a package, its a script
[07:29] <JoshJ> idiots :(
[07:29] <JoshJ> i don't get why someone would do that to this channel
[07:29] <defrysk> fgeller, messing up your ubuntu
[07:29] <JoshJ> ...bleh
[07:29] <JoshJ> why would ubotu slow down?
[07:29] <xanavim> JoshJ: someone is DOS's ubotu
[07:29] <vader1102> anyone have a good vi ebook or something on VI?
[07:29] <JoshJ> ah, hrm
[07:29] <xanavim> er, DOS'ing
[07:29] <JoshJ> valid, i guess
[07:29] <nolimitsoya> fgeller, once you let it taint your system, you are royaly screwed :)
[07:29] <JoshJ> easyubuntu is a bit less rough on your system than automatix
[07:30] <Zehrila> I can't seem to connect using my dialup modem, from the list (forgot the name; I got to it from the menu somewhere) where all network connection methods are given where we have to check/uncheck the entries to connect/disconnect.
[07:30] <xanavim> vader1102: yes, grab vim and read the manual built-in to it
[07:30] <JoshJ> that said you're better off using add/remove programs
[07:30] <defrysk> automatix is the ultimate ubuntu virus
[07:30] <Zehrila> Is there any alternative method like a conventional dial-up program?
[07:30] <fgeller> defrysk: well for all i know, i simply have to remove the couple of lines from sources.list and not start automatix and everything is quiet
[07:30] <nolimitsoya> Zehrila, is it a winmodem?
[07:30] <vader1102> xanavim, thanx
[07:30] <Zehrila> nolimitsoya: It's a hardware modem, as far as I know, though I might be wrong.
[07:30] <defrysk> fgeller, you wish
[07:30] <theshibboleth> I remember that it's possible to run Ubuntu from a CD with a USB drive to store data from one session to the next, but I forget how to do this. Anyone have the information?
[07:30] <Zehrila> nolimitsoya: It's a COMPAQ notebook.
[07:31] <JoshJ> theshibboleth : you mean saving configs etc, or just saving files?
[07:31] <fgeller> well could we forget about the automatix thing for a second and figure out what repository i'm missing if any?
[07:31] <nolimitsoya> theshibboleth, casper-rw :)
[07:31] <zero-1> hi
[07:31] <fgeller> please >_<
[07:31] <snid> i have this weird problem... im not sure if its fluxbox, or xorg.. i have these keys configured to switch workspace, and sometimes, randomly, after pressing one of these keys, fluxbox will go into a loop of quickly changing workspace as if i am holding down the key to change, although i cannot stop it from rapidly changing workspace and have to wait ~5 or 10 minutes until it finally stops... and then my ALT key is held down and when i open up a
[07:31] <snid>  virtual on screen keyboard i can see that the ALT key is in a pressed down state and i cant reverse this without restarting xorg. any suggestions on where to start?
[07:31] <zero-1> Im having a problem when I bot up my ubuntu box every once in a while i get a kernel panic
[07:31] <defrysk> fgeller, you are missing now the way ubuntu should be set up
[07:32] <theshibboleth> nolimitsoya,, thanks.
[07:32] <nolimitsoya> theshibboleth, np :)
[07:32] <defrysk> fgeller, and there is now way of reverting it back
[07:32] <fgeller> defrysk: that is a very precise statement htat let's me understand the problem
[07:32] <defrysk> nowc = no
[07:32] <nolimitsoya> theshibboleth, just give that label to a memorystick, and youre in the gravy :)
[07:32] <C|436237> or maybe your alt key is stuck
[07:32] <zero-1> what can I do to stop getting that kernel panic
[07:32] <Zehrila> nolimitsoya: The modem seems to be connected since I hear the tone when I use it with that bundled soft-phone application.
[07:32] <fgeller> defrysk: i already told you that it wasn't finding the packages before i used automatix
[07:32] <Zehrila> detected*
[07:33] <defrysk> fgeller, automatix does not only install, it also changes
[07:33] <nolimitsoya> fgeller, as i said, youll have to do a apt-get update after adding repos
[07:33] <defrysk> the changes create the probs
[07:33] <defrysk> for noone knows what those changes are
[07:34] <fgeller> nolimitsoya: which repo is it that i'm missing though, and yes i always do a apt-get update after modifying the sources.list
[07:34] <nolimitsoya> !pastebin > nolimitsoya
[07:34] <defrysk> fgeller, I would simply reinstall , start over and have a clean untainted system, safe to use
[07:35] <fgeller> defrysk: haha you a windows user or what
[07:35] <Zehrila> Heh.
[07:35] <JoshJ> haha
[07:35] <fgeller> nolimitsoya: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35155/
[07:35] <defrysk> fgeller, havent used windows in 6 years
[07:35] <JoshJ> "reinstall the OS" is definitely a windows mentality
[07:35] <fgeller> defrysk: well that solution awfully sounds like ms solutions
[07:35] <JoshJ> but it's valid occasionally on linux :P
[07:35] <Zehrila> I must admit, Windows is the easiset to get up and running out of the box.
[07:35] <JoshJ> Zehrila : not true actually
[07:35] <defrysk> JoshJ, installing automatix is a windows mentality
[07:35] <nolimitsoya> fgeller, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35156/ <- thatd be my sources.list
[07:35] <JoshJ> it's only easy when using a OEM cd
[07:35] <Elda> Well using windows for most of my life I would have to say I sadly have that mentality still :s
[07:36] <nolimitsoya> fgeller, thatd give you everything you want
[07:36] <JoshJ> an off-the-shelf windows will likely have issues
[07:36] <JoshJ> whether it be with a printer or what
[07:36] <defrysk> fgeller,  installing automatix is a windows mentality
[07:36] <Zehrila> Well, as far as my experiences go, JoshJ. Last night, I had to try installing ubuntu atleast a couple of dozen times.
[07:36] <JoshJ> Elda leave stuff alone lol :P
[07:36] <Hirvinen> Zehrila: Quite a strange claim.
[07:36] <Elda> Only way you learn is by experimenting :s
[07:36] <JoshJ> uh
[07:36] <fgeller> nolimitsoya: kk, will try that, thanks!
[07:36] <vader1102> Zehrila, not for me, I have had 0 problems with ubuntu wuth 1 exception, my wifes ibm desktop, 6.06 don't like the video (onboard)
[07:36] <JoshJ> 24 times?
[07:36] <Elda> At least I know what not to do now xD
[07:36] <Zehrila> Atleast 24 times.
[07:37] <Rookie_> Elda - i have used nix for 7 years and i still install and reinstall a dist several times before im happy with it ;)
[07:37] <Zehrila> And then succeeded only by doing a CLI-only installation, heh.
[07:37] <nolimitsoya> fgeller, just make sure not the paste in those numbers that pastebin adds to every line :)
[07:37] <Elda> Last time I broke it I tried to update the graphics driver thing, lol and even though I actually managed to fix it on my own some other drivers broke :s
[07:37] <vader1102> I will have to try Edgy on it I guess
[07:37] <Elda> Though I discovered nano xD
[07:37] <Zehrila> Then doing apt-get install ubuntu-desktop took another dozen or so tries.
[07:37] <swanand> hi there//
[07:37] <orestyle5> you want to really see windows with problems, wait til the next version comes out
[07:37] <JoshJ> nano :D
[07:37] <swanand> need help...
[07:37] <Rookie_> !ask
[07:37] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:37] <nikin> Elda: that was worth it :D
[07:37] <nolimitsoya> Elda, you shouldnt have to update graphics drivers. just install them from the repo
[07:37] <JoshJ> i like vi(m) i'm just too lazy to learn it
[07:38] <Elda> ooh
[07:38] <Elda> I should check the rebo thingy
[07:38] <Elda> Thats through the package manager correct?
[07:38] <vader1102> JoshJ, hehehe I have to I run a server with no gui lol
[07:38] <fgeller> nolimitsoya: hehe yeah, was happy to find the "make correction" - box
[07:38] <malt> is there anyway, when i give a few peopel hosting to my linux server and limited ssh, is there anyways to block a out going packet above size 65? because i don't want maybe that client to the linux server to DDoS
[07:38] <linuxn00b> Is there a seperate channel for server issues?
[07:38] <nolimitsoya> fgeller, ?
[07:38] <Zehrila> vader1102: I don't know what was the problem with my installation; everytime I tried, it gave some different error or the same error at some different stage of installation, heh.
[07:38] <Elda> bad disc?
[07:38] <malt> I limited the SSH but it still allows the user to ping
[07:38] <JoshJ> vader1102: i'll do that in the future
[07:38] <nikin> Josh: vi is a bit to evil to me :D but it isnt bad :D i prefer nano tho
[07:38] <swanand> i am currently trying to get my ubuntu 6.06 to share internet
[07:38] <fgeller> nolimitsoya: the text in that box doesn't include the line numbers
[07:38] <JoshJ> nano is basically the same as DOS edit
[07:39] <Elda> I like gedit more than nano, but nano works if gnome doenst xD
[07:39] <nolimitsoya> fgeller, ah, then im with you :)
[07:39] <linuxn00b> Hey malt are you running ubuntu server??
[07:39] <JoshJ> (in functionality and mainly in appearance)
[07:39] <malt> yes
[07:39] <Zehrila> And the disc was burnt alright, since I burnt the ISO to 4 discs, 2 copies each with different burning programs.
[07:39] <Elda> And I love this community because its the first one where people dont look down upon me for not knowing what Im doing yet :s
[07:39] <nikin> Josh: yes its true, but DOS's edit, wasnt bad
[07:39] <linuxn00b> What servers are you running?
[07:39] <Zehrila> And checked all discs before installation.
[07:39] <fgeller> nolimitsoya: yay!! it suddenly knows msttcorefonts
[07:39] <vader1102> first it was a bad drive, then all of the sudden, it don't like the blasted video, won't start x ;p;
[07:39] <needshelp> okay so i got a ubuntu live dvd i got it running, got my sata ntfs windows drive working so i can look at my media files, but it won't play them becuase i don't have the codecs. i know i can't write to the hard drive so i can't get them now, but could i somehow download the codecs for linux trough windows, save them to somewhere on the drive and have ubuntu be able to use them when i boot with it, or if not is there some way to do this.
[07:39] <nolimitsoya> swanand, check out shorewall. though, if you want a router, youd be better of using ipcop, freesco or any other distro designed for that specific purpouse
[07:39] <fgeller> nolimitsoya: great! thanks a lot
[07:39] <nolimitsoya> fgeller, np :()
[07:39] <swanand> i have adsl router connected to mu ubuntu machine
[07:39] <nolimitsoya> *-(
[07:39] <malt> apache2 with ftp and php and ssh and mysql and phpmyadmin
[07:39] <zero-1> my ubunutu machine is working fine Im just getting a kernel panic everyonce in a while, what can i do to fix it?
[07:40] <linuxn00b> malt: do you have it all working?
[07:40] <fgeller> nolimitsoya: and that without formatting my partition.. magic.. ;)
[07:40] <JoshJ> zero-1: need more details of the kernel panic
[07:40] <malt> yeah it works
[07:40] <Zehrila> So, any help with my dial-up issue?
[07:40] <zero-1> it says invalid boot parameters
[07:40] <malt> i just want to limit out going ping size
[07:40] <swanand> installation of ubuntu 6.06 was all fine...
[07:40] <malt> so they can't use ping ip -s 65000
[07:40] <knapp_> Anyone familiar with InitNG?
[07:40] <zero-1> sometimes it happens sometimes it dont
[07:41] <swanand> when i was trying to give iptables -t ... command for masquerade
[07:41] <orestyle5> linuxn00b:  most of that stuff is easily installed and running via aptitude
[07:41] <johnram> needshelp yes there is a way
[07:41] <nikin> needshelp: you can download them and they will be avilable to next restart alternatively there is a trick with USB key to install software... but i dont remember how it was
[07:41] <swanand> i got an error..
[07:41] <swanand> you must be root..
[07:41] <zero-1> but I one have one kernel image and its always the same boot arameters
[07:41] <Elda> Wonder if I should try to install Ubuntu on our home pc when I go home for the holidays xD
[07:41] <swanand> any ideas ?
[07:41] <linuxn00b> malt: Sweet Im fairly new around here and new to linux and all. I want to setup a small server for FTP and some small web hosting. I'm just not sure how it all works ...
[07:41] <Elda> Though it would have to be on a smaller partition too as my parents would probably throw the computer out the window with it ;s
[07:41] <linuxn00b> orestyle5: The problem is that ubuntu server edition does not have a gui
[07:41] <malt> i run www.m4lt.com i am learning as well
[07:42] <Elda> Not to mention I still dont know how to completely use it myself xD
[07:42] <malt> linuxnoob
[07:42] <orestyle5> linuxn00b:  that is not an issue
[07:42] <needshelp> nikin: thanks don't have a usb drive but if posibble i will try that. anybody know how to do it
[07:42] <johnram> linuxn00b just get apache and some ftp server ....
[07:42] <linuxn00b> orestyle5: Also I installed X BUT there is a problem with the viedo card on my server box, and it wont run unless it is in 8 bit
[07:42] <nolimitsoya> linuxn00b, you could always install one if you want to
[07:42] <xarq> when I do loadkeys with the dvorak keymap in /usr
[07:42] <Rookie_> why have X on a server ?
[07:42] <needshelp> i don't wanna just install ubuntu on my hdd, no room and i do'nt wanna disturb my windows, hence the live dvd
[07:42] <xarq> /share/keymaps, nothing happens.  how do I set dvorak?
[07:43] <xarq>  /share/keymaps, nothing happens.  how do I set dvorak?
[07:43] <orestyle5> linuxn00b:  basically to get some of the basic packages, we use other apt sources like dotdeb for our php5, phpmyadmin, mysql-server-5.0 and others
[07:43] <johnram> needshelp mplayer has codecs for download,and you can use it to play your media files,or there are distros aspecially for playing only your media files like movix or other distros like that. ..
[07:43] <JoshJ> uh
[07:43] <orestyle5> linuxn00b:  it actually seems easier without GUI
[07:43] <Smotang> Hey I have a USB and I cannot change the permissions on it, does anyone know how to do this?
[07:43] <JoshJ> !restrictedformats
[07:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:44] <xarq> !dvorak
[07:44] <ubotu> dvorak is a keyboard layout that aims to be more comfortable and efficient alternative to the standard "QWERTY" pattern. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard
[07:44] <JoshJ> johnram there you go
[07:44] <JoshJ> Smotang try sudo chmod?
[07:44] <Smotang> thnx
[07:44] <Smotang> that in terminal?
[07:44] <linuxn00b> orestyle5: I know thats the point... I figured I would learn linux faster if i am forced to use the CP. Thats why I have a desktop ubuntu edgy and now a server i want to implement so I learn the CP. I'm just super noob and I have no idea what Im doing hehe
[07:44] <firebird619> binarydigit: Could you take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35154/ and help me get Ubuntu to use my monitor's native resolution?
[07:44] <JoshJ> ooh
[07:45] <swanand> how to login on dapper 6.06 as root ? since it doesnt ask any user for root during installation ?
[07:45] <JoshJ> linuxcommand.org is great for learning the CLI
[07:45] <nikin> neddshelp : are you here?
[07:45] <JoshJ> !rootsudo
[07:45] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:45] <binarydigit> firebird619: what monitor do you have
[07:45] <linuxn00b> i followed some tutz but I'm not sure if things are setup or not, or how to get them working ...
[07:45] <JoshJ> there's information on root on ubuntu
[07:45] <ArrenLex> !sudo | swanand
[07:45] <ubotu> swanand: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:45] <firebird619> binarydigit: Westinghouse LCM-22w2. Its a 22" widescreen
[07:45] <xarq> fakeroot is also a useful root-related tool
[07:45] <swanand> okie..thanks..
[07:45] <Rookie_> sudo - Switch User and DO
[07:45] <DBO> everyone enjoy the show? =P
[07:45] <ArrenLex> I missed it. What happen?
[07:45] <ArrenLex> Somebody set us up the mod?
[07:46] <DBO> bot attack
[07:46] <orestyle5> linuxn00b:  we setup several servers at work with apache2 and some other stuff (vcalendar, phptimeclock, mysql database, etc) and its just a trial and error thing.  We have only been using for serveral months and oh what a ride
[07:46] <needshelp> nikin:yes
[07:46] <knapp_> Where can I find a log of the systems startup?
[07:46] <Elda> Ooooh, even when Im  spinning the windows the beryl cube thing still shows the windows/chat/other things updating in real time lol
[07:46] <orestyle5> dmesg?
[07:46] <Elda> On the different faces
[07:46] <Rookie_> knapp_ - /var/log
[07:46] <ArrenLex> /var/log/boot m knapp_
[07:46] <knapp_> thanks Rookie
[07:46] <nikin> neddshelp: download nikinostyler.sytes.net/ubuntu_hack.chm
[07:46] <ArrenLex> Not m. o_o
[07:46] <knapp_> thanks
[07:47] <nikin> sorry for the slow link , its my webserver :P, this is an e-book, and there in you will find this USB key trick
[07:47] <needshelp> johnram:thank you but i can't download anything because i have a ntfs partition and i can't write to it right?
[07:48] <linuxn00b> malt: I responded to you PM
[07:48] <nikin> needshelp, you can download to your home dir
[07:48] <needshelp> ty nikin: i will probably go out and get a cheap usb drive later
[07:48] <needshelp> wait. what about the home dir
[07:49] <nikin> Ubuntu Live CD creates a RAM disk for file storage
[07:49] <malt> linuxn00b you have to register to message me on freenode
[07:49] <orestyle5> so if you have a ntfs partition on your linux machine, how would you connect to it?  Mount -t cifs?
[07:49] <nikin> it will store stuff til next restart
[07:49] <nikin> :D
[07:49] <strabes> anyone know why my ipod no longer shows up on my desktop when plugged in and mounted? It shows up in nautilus and the places menu. Other mounted volumes (my shared ext3 partition) do show up on the desktop.
[07:49] <JoshJ> !ntfs
[07:49] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:49] <JoshJ> !fuse
[07:49] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:49] <JoshJ> enjoy
[07:49] <linuxnewb> any one here have setup post fix with pop3 smtp
[07:49] <needshelp> oh okay so if i download codecs to my ram partitoin it will play the files until the next time i reboot.
[07:49] <nikin> Josh: Fuse is evil
[07:50] <ArrenLex> !ntfs-3g | JoshJ
[07:50] <ubotu> JoshJ: ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[07:50] <needshelp> what is the path to this drive
[07:50] <JoshJ> fascinating
[07:51] <snid> i have this weird problem... im not sure if its fluxbox, or xorg.. i have these keys configured to switch workspace, and sometimes, randomly, after pressing one of these keys, fluxbox will go into a loop of quickly changing workspace as if i am holding down the key to change, although i cannot stop it from rapidly changing workspace and have to wait ~5 or 10 minutes until it finally stops... and then my ALT key is held down and when i open up a
[07:51] <snid>  virtual on screen keyboard i can see that the ALT key is in a pressed down state and i cant reverse this without restarting xorg. any suggestions on where to start?
[07:51] <umista> so is there anyone here that knows anything about nforce4 RAID0 drives?
[07:52] <vader1102> umista, I run a dual p1 200 running RAID 5....... anything I can help with?
[07:52] <nikin> snid: dows this occure with other usage of ALT key to?
[07:52] <orestyle5> umista:  what is nforce4?  Is that a controller?
[07:53] <nikin> nf4 is a motherboard chipset
[07:53] <snid> nikin: no it doesnt
[07:53] <strabes> anyone know why my ipod no longer shows up on my desktop when plugged in and mounted? It shows up in nautilus and the places menu. Other mounted volumes (my shared ext3 partition) do show up on the desktop.
[07:53] <nikin> snid: did you try other WM?
[07:53] <umista> nfrorce4 raid controller! u know wht nvidia is?
[07:53] <vader1102> strabes, have you rebooted after possibly removing it unsafely?
[07:54] <vader1102> umista, what is the problem?
[07:54] <workbean> guys, I got a router, so I want disable the pppoe connection in Ubuntu. I configured it through pppoeconf but I can't figure out how to disable it.
[07:54] <snid> nikin: yes, but i cant reproduce it... it just happens randomly
[07:54] <malt> anyone know how to block the ping command in ssh? or to atleast limit its max Packet size to 65?
[07:54] <malt> where anything over that it will deny
[07:54] <orestyle5> umista:  why would nfrorce4 have anything to dowith raid then?
[07:55] <nikin> snid: if you have time, and patience to use an other WM for some time... you could test it
[07:56] <umista> cause im using sata 80gig X2 drives in raid 0 and wish to know how to mount them so i can access them
[07:56] <Elda> After playing with this gui and beryl I wonder how MS thinks that they are doing something new with their gui, lol
[07:56] <yuesefa> i can not find my configuration editor in the system tools
[07:56] <yuesefa> where can i find it?
[07:56] <Elda> And I wonder why theirs eats so much cpu >.<
[07:56] <yuesefa> thanks
[07:56] <vader1102> so you didn't do the install to them umista ?
[07:56] <tiptip> a little  question, how i mount a sata disk that on /dev/sda2 ??
[07:56] <orestyle5> umista: mount -t /dev/"drive" /mnt/whatever
[07:56] <vader1102> I wonder why Ubuntu didn't see them on the first boot
[07:56] <nekostar> hey
[07:57] <nekostar> does the ubuntu ppc port have nvidia drivers?
[07:57] <skmidry> I'm facing problems with locale settings
[07:57] <skmidry> Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library
[07:57] <nekostar> and if so could one put ubuntu in a ps3 ?
[07:57] <skmidry>  Using the fallback 'C' locale
[07:57] <snid> nikin: do you know how or where i would be able to find out how this problem occurs? like is there a log i should look at or something?
[07:57] <skmidry> This is both on dapper and edgy
[07:57] <JoshJ> nekostar: you can put any distro of linux on anything if there's enough hard drive space and you have enough free time (and knowledge)
[07:57] <tiptip> what i need to write in the "whatever" ?
[07:57] <tiptip> :D
[07:57] <Elda> PS3 is eeeevil >.<
[07:57] <snid> nikin: i never had this problem before xorg 7.1... so im thinking it might be something to do with that?
[07:57] <nekostar> JoshJ,
[07:58] <nekostar> i mean is the architecture of the ppc based cell cpu in the ps3 able to run ppc stuff
[07:58] <jimle> !beryl
[07:58] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:58] <nekostar> and if so is there nvidia drivers in the ppc port of ubuntu
[07:58] <nekostar> o:
[07:58] <Elda> I know that the xbox can, hehe
[07:58] <JoshJ> i dunno, ask the yellowdog linux people
[07:58] <Elda> <3 Beryl
[07:58] <nikin> snid: it can be, but i think that enlightment has some problems
[07:58] <nikin> but i ame realy not sure
[07:58] <yuesefa> i installed configuration editor, but i can't where to start it
[07:59] <strabes> vader1102: earlier today i did remove it unsafely and have rebooted my computer. Would I have to reboot my computer while the ipod is plugged in?
[07:59] <Elda> Err you mean beryl?
[07:59] <yuesefa> no icon in the System tools
[07:59] <umista> na have them as windows drive
[07:59] <Elda> You have to install emerald and beryl
[07:59] <nolimitsoya> yuesefa, usualy you just type the name of the app in a terminal
[07:59] <orestyle5> tiptip:  you create a file called /mnt/"name of mount"
[07:59] <Elda> Emerald is a theme picker type thing and beryl is the thing that allows you to make your desktop into a cube
[07:59] <nekostar> JoshJ,
[07:59] <nekostar> it seems that the yd ppl suck atm
[07:59] <nekostar> lol
[07:59] <nekostar> there are few ppl in the chan
[07:59] <nikin> snid: i cant look now, coz now i ame on my server coz of upgrade of the main system and Elinks is the most powerfullwebbrowser what i can use here :D
[08:00] <nekostar> which is why im asking if anyone here knows
[08:00] <vader1102> strabes, I would have thought that since you rebooted once, that would have reset the usb ports. Maybe make sure that the IPOD is on and then if it don't show, reboot and show it who is boss
[08:00] <yuesefa> nolimitsoya: thanks, it works :)
[08:00] <nekostar> at this point it is easy to say and observe that you dont know.. it seems one can install ubuntu however from some of the documentation that ive found online.... but the real question is does said port of ubuntu have any nvidia driver support
[08:00] <nolimitsoya> yuesefa, np :)
[08:00] <nekostar> soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[08:00] <snid> nikin: ok then... thanks for your help anyways
[08:01] <nikin> nm
[08:01] <nekostar> know where i might look for the ppc package list for ubuntu ?
[08:01] <JoshJ> nekostar: i would assume the default ppc ubuntu would have access to the nvidia drivers
[08:01] <strabes> vader1102: it does show up in the places menu, etc. It just doesn't show up on my desktop which is what I am trying to get it to do. volumes_visible IS checked in gconf-editor/apps/nautilus
[08:01] <JoshJ> mainly because it's the same sources.list file
[08:01] <tiptip> hmm, sudo mount -t /dev/sda2 /mnt/whatever doesnt work for me  :/
[08:01] <swanand> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[08:01] <swanand> i was trying above..
[08:01] <nolimitsoya> JoshJ, but the repos arent the same :)
[08:01] <swanand> and the message is permission denied
[08:01] <nekostar> but JoshJ you should have learned by now not to assume that sort of thing
[08:01] <nolimitsoya> JoshJ, different architectures mean different binaries
[08:01] <vader1102> strabes, then I honestly don't know, sorry to have waisted your time :(
[08:01] <nekostar> not to flame or make fun but when you assume you make an ass out of you and me
[08:02] <nekostar> ^_^
[08:02] <JoshJ> ah, hrm
[08:02] <strabes> vader1102: that's ok. It's spelled "wasted" btw :)
[08:02] <orestyle5> tiptip:  you can run mount -a then do a df -k and see if that mount is showing
[08:02] <vader1102> lol woops
[08:02] <nekostar> nolimitsoya, is there a spot that lists packages per port?
[08:02] <nolimitsoya> nekostar, i have no idea :)
[08:02] <JoshJ> seems odd that it's not a different repository url...
[08:02] <JoshJ> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted
[08:02] <JoshJ> that doesn't say anything about x86 or amd or ppc :(
[08:05] <swanand> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward... command gives me persmission denied error..can anyone help ?
[08:05] <DARKGuy> Greetings! what file would I edit for removing other terminals? let's say I just want tty1 through 3, if I want to remove 4 through 6, what would I edit?
[08:06] <JoshJ> o_O
[08:06] <JoshJ> why would you want to remove them?
[08:06] <con-man> where can I turn on extended desktop?
[08:06] <DARKGuy> I don't need that many :/
[08:06] <nikin> swanad: /proc is root only
[08:06] <con-man> i have two monitors
[08:06] <DARKGuy> I do too
[08:06] <con-man> and right now they are cloining each other
[08:06] <DARKGuy> oO
[08:06] <JoshJ> DARKGuy lol
[08:06] <con-man> i have beryl installed
[08:06] <orestyle5> I bet that look pretty
[08:06] <nikin> swanand: but why do you wnat to write that file?
[08:06] <con-man> so where can I change it?
[08:07] <DARKGuy> con-man: try #beryl? I've never used it but did that used to happen without beryl?
[08:07] <con-man> no i have just installed
[08:07] <con-man> pretend there is no beryl
[08:07] <con-man> how do i turn on extended desktop
[08:07] <DARKGuy> can-man: do you know how to edit the xorg.conf file?
[08:08] <con-man> a little
[08:08] <con-man> where is it located again? etc?
[08:08] <JoshJ> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:08] <con-man> okay
[08:08] <DARKGuy> con-man: In the last part of the file... ServerLayout I think, add something that says "Option "Xinerama" "On" , that is if you have Xinerama
[08:09] <con-man> what do i change
[08:09] <nikin> hmm updating to edgy is evil, it says its 26 Minutes left and its going but it goes down one minute/10 minutes :(
[08:09] <g0tw00d> Does ubuntu support SATA harddrives and CDROMS?
[08:10] <con-man> where do i get Xinerama
[08:10] <con-man> i just wanted extended desktop
[08:10] <DARKGuy> sudo apt-get install xinerama
[08:10] <DARKGuy> Xinerama does that
[08:10] <DARKGuy> joins two displays into a big desktop
[08:10] <DARKGuy> or more :O
[08:11] <con-man> Reading package lists... Done
[08:11] <con-man> Building dependency tree
[08:11] <con-man> Reading state information... Done
[08:11] <con-man> E: Couldn't find package Xinerama
[08:11] <DARKGuy> ouch
[08:11] <con-man> ideas?
[08:11] <DARKGuy> con-man: do you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled ?
[08:11] <DARKGuy> and, are you using Dapper or Edgy?
[08:12] <con-man> edgy
[08:12] <con-man> i dont know if i have those enabled
[08:12] <DARKGuy> con-man: Okay, edit (the same way you did with xorg.conf) the file named /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:12] <con-man> and add?
[08:12] <g0tw00d> Does ubuntu support SATA harddrives and SATA CDROMS?  I can't seem to get it to boot the live cd.....
[08:13] <g0tw00d> errors on sr0
[08:13] <DARKGuy> con-man: see where it says something with deb://http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe ?
[08:13] <con-man> yeah
[08:13] <DARKGuy> con-man: Remove the #'s before those two lines
[08:13] <DARKGuy> then save, do sudo apt-get update, and again try to install xinerama
[08:14] <Firefishe> is xinerama that 3d desktop thing  I've been hearing about?
[08:14] <DARKGuy> Firefishe: No, that's Beryl
[08:15] <DARKGuy> Firefishe: Xinerama just spans two or more displays in a big desktop as if it was one
[08:15] <con-man> still doesnt work
[08:15] <g0tw00d> like dual monitors for xp?
[08:15] <DARKGuy> g0tw00d: yes
[08:15] <con-man> yeah
[08:15] <DARKGuy> con-man: Hm..
[08:15] <g0tw00d> kewl
[08:15] <DARKGuy> con-man: one sec
[08:15] <g0tw00d> nice to know that
[08:15] <DARKGuy> g0tw00d: In fact, I'm talking to you all through my right monitor :P
[08:16] <g0tw00d> right on....dual monitors kicks ass I just dont use it
[08:16] <g0tw00d> i figured i could use it at the office someday
[08:16] <DARKGuy> It's cool :P
[08:16] <con-man> i cant wait to get it set up
[08:16] <DARKGuy> con-man: try to follow the instructions here
[08:16] <DARKGuy> con-man: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[08:16] <g0tw00d> i have set clients up for dual monitors on xp....
[08:17] <g0tw00d> cpas
[08:17] <DARKGuy> con-man: After that, sudo apt-get update, and try installing xinerama again
[08:17] <g0tw00d> cpa's
[08:17] <Firefishe> !beryl
[08:17] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:17] <DARKGuy> g0tw00d: dual rocks, and even more if there's hardware accel in both monitors ;)
[08:18] <con-man> i know how to add repositories
[08:18] <DARKGuy> con-man: But you've got to add the ones in that list :P
[08:18] <JoshJ> did he know you knew that?
[08:18] <g0tw00d> DARKGuy: ever used Ubuntu on SATA HD's and SATA CD-ROM's?
[08:19] <DARKGuy> g0tw00d: Nope, I only have IDE drives :(
[08:19] <fnf> I'm running the free vmware player with Windows XP as guest, is there anyway to share data between the host and the guest (mounting addtion partition, smb, nfs, etc...) ?.
[08:19] <Skelator> hi, how do I reconfigure fontconfig?
[08:19] <DARKGuy> g0tw00d: I'm sorry
[08:19] <orestyle5> any ideas on a good IRC program?  This chatzilla not the best
[08:19] <g0tw00d> DARKGuy:ok nm, thx anyway :)
[08:19] <JoshJ> xchat!
[08:19] <fnf> orestyle5: What do you want from an IRC client ?
[08:19] <DARKGuy> orestyle5: you like terminal? try irssi or BitchX. You like gui?XChat is the way
[08:20] <DARKGuy> fnf: I've not used vmware player in linux, but in windows I know there was a way to set up shared folders between the two o.O
[08:20] <strabes> orestyle5: i really like lostirc - it's really small and compact
[08:20] <orestyle5> I used to use leafchat with win, but when I setup bitchx the cpu basically ran all the time
[08:20] <JoshJ> i remember there was SOMETHING i disliked strongly about lostirc
[08:20] <Skelator> nm, I got an answer: sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config
[08:20] <JoshJ> can't remember what the hell it was though >_<
[08:21] <JoshJ> i do remember that ksirc had copy-paste issues
[08:21] <fnf> DARKGuy: Can you draw a simple direction ? That would probably give me a clue. I pinged the guest OS but all ports are closed.
[08:21] <strabes> JoshJ: i haven't had any problems with copy/paste in lostirc. maybe the problem is that you can't handle the sweetness of this irc program
[08:21] <orestyle5> Ya, just something that is simple to use, remembers the channels I have been too, and maybe can log the channels for later review..
[08:21] <JoshJ> strabes: ksirc != lostirc, read what i said again
[08:21] <orestyle5> and not processor intensive
[08:21] <DARKGuy> fnf: Hm, in the VMWare program itself, not the player (where you make the VM) you need to install VM Additions in the guest OS and then from there you can set up the shared folders
[08:21] <fnf> orestyle5: Try centericq.
[08:21] <JoshJ> also, what does lostirc support with regard to scripting?
[08:21] <strabes> JoshJ: i know; i was just saying...
[08:21] <DARKGuy> fnf: At least I did it like that in XP using 98 as guest
[08:22] <strabes> orestyle5: not sure if lostirc has log capabilities
[08:22] <bitflip> LOL!  what a fsck - he doesn't get it an will forever be married to failure due to ignorance
[08:22] <orestyle5> ok
[08:22] <strabes> orestyle5: actually it does; i just checked
[08:22] <orestyle5> sweet
[08:22] <Firefishe> I'll stick to good ol' xchat :)
[08:22] <fnf> DARKGuy: I'll check if I can find where to download the VMWare tools, I ahve heard of it but never installed.
[08:22] <bitflip> um, please disregard (wrong channel)
[08:22] <DARKGuy> fnf: you need those for sharing folders
[08:22] <JoshJ> i <3 xchat and i'm sorta trying to script some stuff in python for it :)
[08:22] <JoshJ> (a game bot0
[08:22] <JoshJ> )
[08:22] <strabes> xchat has that useless side panel channel list on the left =\ lostirc puts them in tabs on the bottom
[08:23] <DARKGuy> ahhhH! ants in my desk D:
[08:23] <strabes> DARKGuy: pwned!!!!
[08:23] <JoshJ> strabes: that's an option
[08:23] <JoshJ> mine are across the top
[08:23] <DARKGuy> strabes: lol!
[08:23] <strabes> JoshJ: oh that's cool
[08:23] <fnf> DARKGuy: That's probably the difference between VMWare workstation and the free one, give me a minute...
[08:23] <DARKGuy> xchat can put tabs at the bottom, too strabes
[08:23] <orestyle5> this chatzilla is making me crazy.  I thought it would be nice, but kinda clunky
[08:23] <JoshJ> yeah... that's not really a big deal
[08:23] <DARKGuy> fnf: could be o.o
[08:23] <strabes> DARKGuy: cool i'm gonna check it out
[08:23] <JoshJ> chatzilla was clunky and awful for me
[08:23] <DARKGuy> strabes: just check the options ;)
[08:23] <JoshJ> i tried out like... 9 irc clients, i think
[08:24] <JoshJ> when i switched from windows/mirc to linux
[08:24] <JoshJ> ksirc, lostirc, irssi, bitchx, xchat, konversation, and a few others
[08:24] <orestyle5> I used to love the mirc stuff
[08:24] <DARKGuy> JoshJ: what about emulating mirc in Wine? xD
[08:24] <JoshJ> ew no
[08:24] <DARKGuy> :(
[08:24] <strabes> DARKGuy: WOW why would you want to do that
[08:24] <fnf> DARKGuy: Did you have to download the tools separately, or it was included in the workstation edition ?
[08:24] <nolimitsoya> DARKGuy, can you arrange the channels as you like with xchat? last time i tried, it put them alphabeticaly, categorized by server. thats uncool :/
[08:24] <DARKGuy> strabes: dunno, it's a way to still use mirc in linux :p
[08:24] <orestyle5> you having to crack mirc or is it free?
[08:24] <JoshJ> xchat lets you reaarrange
[08:24] <quik_> hey folks
[08:25] <JoshJ> mirc is free as in beer for 30 days then a nag screen
[08:25] <DARKGuy> fnf: it was included as ISO
[08:25] <nolimitsoya> JoshJ, how?
[08:25] <JoshJ> alt-left/right can move channels within a server
[08:25] <DARKGuy> nolimitsoya: Hm, I really have no much idea about it... I could try firing it up and checking
[08:25] <quik_> if I have a script that requires to be run from a while the user is within a particular directory
[08:25] <orestyle5> good ol nag screen.  Just like ol times
[08:25] <nolimitsoya> JoshJ, but out of the server tabs then?(or even do away with them in full)
[08:25] <JoshJ> you can do control-i i think
[08:25] <JoshJ> yeah...
[08:25] <JoshJ> that pops the window separately
[08:25] <quik_> its a shell script that a particular process has to be run from a directory
[08:25] <nolimitsoya> JoshJ, exelent. i might try xchat again :D
[08:25] <JoshJ> and they're ordered sequentially by time you loaded it, not by default
[08:26] <JoshJ> *alpha
[08:26] <fnf> DARKGuy: I see... Probably there's no equivalent tools with vmware player, I read the documentation for vmware Workstation and saw quite a few menus lacking in the free version.
[08:26] <quik_> in that shell script, will 'cd my_dir; my_command' work?
[08:26] <JoshJ> as in, if i /join #ubuntu then #beryl then ##linux they're in that order
[08:26] <fnf> DARKGuy: Thanks.
[08:26] <DARKGuy> fnf: Ah, it could be that, I'm sorry :( - welcome :)
[08:27] <DARKGuy> fnf: Google is your friend :) who knows, maybe someone has set up shared folders without it? o.o;
[08:27] <fnf> DARKGuy: I'm trying :).
[08:27] <DARKGuy> ^^
[08:30] <screechingcat> can anyone tell me which program is the best GUI for mencoder ?
[08:30] <JoshJ> seems like it would be mplayer
[08:31] <screechingcat> ive tried to install konverter and gmencoder, but both had some unsatisfiable deps
[08:31] <JoshJ> mencoder - MPlayer's Movie Encoder
[08:31] <JoshJ> !mencoder
[08:31] <ubotu> mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3171 kB, installed size 7956 kB
[08:31] <JoshJ> unless i'm missing something :(
[08:31] <drcode> hi all
[08:31] <orestyle5__> JoshJ:  xchat seems ok.  Like the layout
[08:31] <drcode> is there dvd with all ubuntu 6.10 packges?
[08:31] <drcode> I have computer without internet connection
[08:31] <screechingcat> JoshJ: mplayer doesnt do all the encoding and ripping features that mencoder gives
[08:32] <drcode> or place where I can download spcific pkges for 6.10
[08:32] <screechingcat> JoshJ: mplayer is just for playing media
[08:32] <phobiac> I've got an ntfs partition I'm considering just nuking and turning into ext3 so I can take full advantage of it with ubuntu. Is using gparted to reformat it from ntfs to ext3 a good move, or will I end up destroying the semi-vaulable data on it?
[08:32] <JoshJ> screechingcat: sorry, dunno -i've never made a video on ubuntu
[08:32] <con-man> i need help
[08:32] <JoshJ> phobiac: reformatting ALWAYS nukes data
[08:32] <DARKGuy> drcode: you can download packages directly from the mirrors - but isn't too reccommended for tons of package downloading... y'know, they give bandwidth for free
[08:32] <con-man> im trying to run this program using WINE and i get this message
[08:32] <con-man> con-man@con-man-desktop:~/media/Miranda IM$ wine miranda32.exe
[08:32] <con-man> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[08:32] <con-man> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[08:32] <DARKGuy> con-man: what with?
[08:33] <DARKGuy> con-man: Weird
[08:33] <con-man> ideas?
[08:33] <drcode> k
[08:33] <DARKGuy> con-man: try... "DISPLAY=:0.0 && wine miranda32.exe"
[08:33] <phobiac> Hmm,okay. Thanks.
[08:33] <screechingcat> con-man: why bother with an IM program under wine ? just use gaim or kopete. they're awesome
[08:33] <JoshJ> gaim is awesome indeed
[08:33] <phobiac> Con-man, can you display 3d things properly?
[08:33] <DARKGuy> it lacks some features, but it is
[08:34] <con-man> yeah
[08:34] <con-man> totally
[08:34] <DARKGuy> I wonder, once again, how can I remove tty-6 ?
[08:34] <DARKGuy> *tty4-6
[08:34] <con-man> it isnt loading my exe
[08:34] <con-man> just drops to a prompt
[08:34] <phobiac> When I was trying to set up beryl I got that error messege before setting up my ATI card properly.
[08:34] <JoshJ> DARKGuy i'm not even sure you would even gain anything out of doing that
[08:35] <JoshJ> i don't think those extra tty's slow your system down
[08:35] <phobiac> Try opening up a terminal and doing 'sudo wine [path to program here] '
[08:35] <JoshJ> uh
[08:35] <JoshJ> why would you give a windows program root access?
[08:35] <JoshJ> that's asking for trouble :|
[08:35] <con-man> i just want it to load
[08:36] <phobiac> It's just a im program. It's not like all windows programs are infused with the devil.
[08:36] <screechingcat> con-man: what is the program ?
[08:36] <JoshJ> oh btw DARKGuy
[08:36] <DARKGuy> JoshJ: Then, would you know why this box is eating 242Mb out of 256Mb with just Fluxbox, 2Eterms, an Xterm (just showing top), XMMS and 6dockapps in fluxbox?
[08:36] <JoshJ> do ps -e
[08:36] <DARKGuy> like, it shouldn't :/
[08:36] <JoshJ> or you can do killall tty4 , tty5, and tty6 :\
[08:36] <JoshJ> not sure if that will cause a crash
[08:36] <JoshJ> probably shouldn't, but might
[08:36] <DARKGuy> nope, I tried
[08:36] <screechingcat> phobiac: lucifer personally created all of them (cept firefox of course)
[08:36] <JoshJ> how odd
[08:36] <DARKGuy> but they come back 
[08:36] <JoshJ> yeah figured
[08:37] <JoshJ> 242 megs seems pretty high
[08:37] <DARKGuy> a lot, considering how "lightweight" this should be
[08:37] <DARKGuy> Actually
[08:37] <JoshJ> but then again i'm using 300+ megs constantly
[08:37] <JoshJ> (granted i have firefox gaim and xchat open)
[08:37] <DARKGuy> let me restart and see how much RAM does it takes at first initial X boot
[08:37] <JoshJ> k
[08:38] <JoshJ> no, i'm not saying "all windows apps are made by luciver" screechingcat
[08:38] <JoshJ> but i'm fairly sure that running windows apps as root is a Bad Idea
[08:38] <phobiac> Anyone know what the 'force' mount option is when trying to mount an ntfs partition?
[08:39] <H3g3m0n> phobiac: I think it allows you to mount it even if the journel isn't clean
[08:39] <screechingcat> JoshJ: no you're not sayying that. i am
[08:39] <JoshJ> heh
[08:39] <JoshJ> that's a silly exaggeration
[08:39] <screechingcat> JoshJ: just a joke
[08:39] <JoshJ> osswin.sourceforge.net can show you the light :P
[08:39] <phobiac> When I attempt to mount it with a 'sudo mount' it says to reboot windows twice or use the force mount option.
[08:40] <phobiac> Oh wait, no no, what I'm asking for is the actual argument. I can't find it.
[08:40] <screechingcat> JoshJ: Warez has already given me all the light i need
[08:40] <phobiac> a mount --help and man mount didn't help. :(
[08:40] <JoshJ> screechingcat: no reason to use Warez if FOSS is available
[08:40] <orestyle5__> phobiac:  is it a local ntfs file system or on network?
[08:41] <JoshJ> hrm, man mount | grep force gets nothing relevant :\
[08:41] <kurisutofuaa> Does any one know of any programs for minidics player support?
[08:41] <screechingcat> JoshJ: naah! im not a FOSS addict. i just need the best program for the job
[08:41] <phobiac> orestyle5__: It's local, a partition on my HD.
[08:41] <al> %C7 Hello
[08:41] <al> i got a problem here
[08:41] <JoshJ> screechingcat; curious, what program do you find necessary to use instead of FOSS?
[08:42] <firebird619> My monitors native resolution is 1680x1050, but in system, preferences, screen resolution the highest listed is 1280x1024, however 1680x1050 is listed in xorg.conf. How can I fix this? Is it possible my graphics card doesn't support it, I have Intel 845GL with i810 driver.
[08:42] <FirstStrike> al: just ask your question
[08:42] <orestyle5__> phobiac:  there is a document on the ubuntu site that explains mounting local ntfs partitions...  let me see
[08:42] <al> huh , thank you
[08:42] <sean_> Need help, cant startx API mismatch nvidia kernel module older than X module, after running nvidia installer, thoughts?
[08:42] <al> I'm on ubuntu x64
[08:42] <FirstStrike> !mount
[08:42] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[08:42] <phobiac> orestyle5__: Alright, thanks for the help.
[08:42] <orestyle5__> phobiac:  maybe this helps  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[08:43] <al> and here i can not play any .rmvb videos
[08:43] <al> win32codec didn't working
[08:43] <screechingcat> JoshJ: a driver manager, antivirus, antispyware, nero, and some video editing software and games
[08:43] <JoshJ> there isn't FOSS antivirus/antispyware for windows?
[08:43] <JoshJ> nero and drivers, sure
[08:43] <JoshJ> games, sure- windows is the system everything goes to for games...
[08:43] <al> what can i do to turn on the rmvb format on x64 ubuntu
[08:44] <JoshJ> video editing, i guess...
[08:44] <JoshJ> i'm a bit baffled that you're "having" to use proprietary antivirus/antispyware
[08:44] <Bonez56> hi all, i installed edgy on my PC and now when I boot it says grub error 22, no partition found
[08:44] <neil> hi all
[08:44] <nolimitsoya> al, try vlc
[08:44] <screechingcat> JoshJ: why is that ? are there a lot of FOSS antivirus apps ?
[08:44] <DARKGuy> woot
[08:44] <DARKGuy> 99Mb free out of 256 :/
[08:45] <al> vlc? what is that?
[08:45] <JoshJ> !vlc
[08:45] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:45] <neil> quick, terminal command to change permissions on my themes folder
[08:45] <JoshJ> i would expect there to be, screechingcat
[08:45] <JoshJ> chmod
[08:45] <Bonez56> hi all, i installed edgy on my PC and now when I boot it says grub error 22, no partition found. can someone please help?
[08:45] <JoshJ> probably prefixed by a sudo
[08:45] <al> grub error 22 might be Harddisk partition forum error
[08:45] <screechingcat> JoshJ: all i know about is ClamAV and i've never really tried that
[08:45] <al> fix it by using the diskman
[08:45] <JoshJ> http://sourceforge.net/search/?type_of_search=soft&words=antivirus
[08:45] <Bonez56> al: what is the diskman
[08:45] <JoshJ> the first one on the list (moon) is for windows
[08:45] <JoshJ> the second one (clam) is for linux
[08:46] <JoshJ> the 4th one is the windows version of clam
[08:46] <al> now it called diskger&*87?
[08:46] <al> diskgenius
[08:46] <Bonez56> ?
[08:46] <JoshJ> http://sourceforge.net/projects/antixtra/  <-anti-spyware
[08:46] <al> Diskgenius
[08:46] <phobiac> Aha, for anyone interested to force the mount of an ntfs partition that needs checking just do -o force as an arguement.
[08:46] <Bonez56> what do i need it for
[08:46] <phobiac> Well, I'm off.
[08:46] <JoshJ> my method of getting software is (1) apt-cache search (2) sourceforge (3) google
[08:46] <al> burn it to a bootable disk
[08:46] <DARKGuy> XMMS & Gaim = 64Mb free
[08:47] <DARKGuy> this can't be :/
[08:47] <screechingcat> JoshJ: yeah i try google and synaptic too
[08:47] <orestyle5__> JoshJ:  Don't forget freshmeat...
[08:47] <orestyle5__> might be similar to sourceforge
[08:47] <al> hello nolimitsoya , what vlc? a player?
[08:47] <screechingcat> JoshJ: yeah, the often underestimated kid brother of sourceforge
[08:47] <nolimitsoya> al, yes
[08:48] <JoshJ> ah, yeah, i do tend to forget about that
[08:48] <al> could that work fine on x64?
[08:48] <nolimitsoya> al, type 'sudo apt-get install vlc' in a terminal
[08:48] <screechingcat> al, its a media player. get it at videolan.org
[08:48] <nolimitsoya> screechingcat, no!
[08:48] <JoshJ> getting it out of the repos > getting it from a website
[08:48] <al> ok, thank you
[08:48] <JoshJ> that's always true
[08:48] <nolimitsoya> +1 JoshJ
[08:48] <zcat[1] > sourceforget, the world's largets repository of barely started abandoned software projects
[08:48] <screechingcat> JoshJ: the website points to the apt-get command anywyas
[08:48] <zcat[1] > *largest
[08:48] <FirstStrike> al: if you use aptitude you can install VLC or MPlayer straight from the repositories
[08:49] <neil> so, sudo chmod user/share/themes
[08:49] <al> ok
[08:49] <FirstStrike> I personally find that MPlayer works better than VLC
[08:49] <nolimitsoya> neil, youll have to give chmod som sort of command as well ;)
[08:49] <neil> example?
[08:49] <screechingcat> i have mplayer, vlc and totem-xine
[08:49] <screechingcat> i can play anything
[08:49] <al> I hadnt ever heard about this , vlc, what kind of it  ?  a gtk program?
[08:49] <nolimitsoya> al, just type the string i gave you, and disregard all other "advice" :)
[08:49] <DARKGuy> wait - wtf
[08:49] <yuesefa> after upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10, too many choices on the boot list. How can i delete the old versions?
[08:49] <DARKGuy> does Ubuntu makes you a swap partition ?
[08:49] <FirstStrike> !vlc
[08:50] <nolimitsoya> DARKGuy, i can...
[08:50] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:50] <nolimitsoya> yuesefa, just uninstall the kernels you dont want anymore
[08:50] <DARKGuy> nolimitsoya: you can.. what o.o;?
[08:50] <FirstStrike> al: it's a GUI video player. it will play multiple formats 'out of the box'
[08:50] <nolimitsoya> DARKGuy, sorry, dropped a letter. should have been 'it can'
[08:50] <al> thank you
[08:51] <DARKGuy> nolimitsoya: Ah, 'cause I don't see it in df -h :/
[08:51] <neil> nolimitsoya, example?
[08:51] <FirstStrike> al: type sudo aptitude install vlc in a command prompt
[08:51] <al> ok, i m on it
[08:51] <DARKGuy> nolimitsoya: oh wait, it did, nevermind
[08:52] <nolimitsoya> al, dont do both. as i said, disregard everyone else ;)
[08:52] <al> I think Linux is great now, no so many games on it, but those just waste life
[08:52] <screechingcat> i dont like aptitude
[08:52] <bitflip> yuesefa: comment out the kernels in /boot/grub/menu.lst or do what nolimitsoya suggested
[08:52] <al> ok , thank you
[08:52] <kurisutofuaa> Does any one know of any programs for minidics player support for edgy amd64?
[08:52] <rob> al install Cedega :)
[08:52] <screechingcat> it doesn't have super cow powers
[08:53] <al> yes, i know cedega, but i wont
[08:53] <al> :>
[08:53] <nolimitsoya> al, there is also quite a few free games in the repos :)
[08:53] <al> oh, come on
[08:54] <DARKGuy> Eh, with Diablo II and Furcadia under Wine and Tibia native, I'm happy :P CS 1.6 non-steam doesn't work though, and WoW crashes, but hey, it's alright as it used to work :P
[08:54] <screechingcat> al, get started with - Nexuiz, Frozen-Bubble, SuperTux, Enemy Territory
[08:54] <DARKGuy> Nexuiz and ET
[08:54] <DARKGuy> nice games
[08:54] <DARKGuy> Alien Arena and Q3A too
[08:54] <nolimitsoya> ... not tomention the quake and doom series...
[08:54] <FirstStrike> al: I have run half life 2, doom 3, saga of ryzom and unreal tournament 2004 on ubuntu through cedega/wine.
[08:54] <screechingcat> al, or buy linux games at tuxgames.com
[08:54] <al> i like FEAR more
[08:54] <nolimitsoya> but this is #ubuntu-offtopic material :P
[08:54] <FirstStrike> well, UT2k4 has a native version
[08:54] <FirstStrike> so that doesn't count i suppose
[08:54] <al> .......
[08:54] <nolimitsoya> so does nwn, btw :)
[08:54] <DARKGuy> !
[08:55] <ubuntu_noob> Hello Peeps
[08:55] <DARKGuy> how do you mount an ISO FirstStrike ?
[08:55] <ubuntu_noob> My First Linux Boot! Woohoo!
[08:55] <FirstStrike> DARKGuy: with the mount command
[08:55] <nolimitsoya> DARKGuy, sudo mount -o loop /file /mount(point
[08:55] <DARKGuy> FirstStrike: yup, but what c- oh, thanks nolimitsoya :D
[08:55] <FirstStrike> yea, that
[08:56] <nolimitsoya> cheers ubuntu_noob :)
[08:56] <FirstStrike> ubuntu_noob: congrats. don't break anything :P
[08:56] <ubuntu_noob> thanks man i'm so proud i could die
[08:56] <FirstStrike> actually, break the hell out of it so you learn
[08:56] <Microsoft_Spy> Hmmm got a new notebook Acer Travelmate 4220
[08:56] <Elda> Night all xD
[08:56] <ubuntu_noob> itsa live cd so not much to break hehehe
[08:56] <FirstStrike> oh, livecd's don't count
[08:56] <DARKGuy> nice ubuntu_noob, welcome to the jungle ;)
[08:56] <Microsoft_Spy> Ubuntu edgy doesn't support wireless
[08:56] <screechingcat> ive broken Ubuntu a gazillion times
[08:57] <nolimitsoya> !wifi | Microsoft_Spy
[08:57] <ubotu> Microsoft_Spy: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:57] <JoshJ> ubuntu edgy does support wireless
[08:57] <DARKGuy> it's fun to break it
[08:57] <DARKGuy> :D
[08:57] <al> I try to start Azureus, and got the following error: No SSL provider available
[08:57] <al> what's up
[08:57] <JoshJ> it's just that broadcom sucks :(
[08:57] <sean_> broke edgy 3 times today
[08:57] <FirstStrike> i think you need openssl installed for azureus al
[08:57] <orestyle5> Ah, broadcom
[08:57] <DARKGuy> you went too edgy :P
[08:57] <JoshJ> i think you're reaking things too much :P
[08:57] <sean_> still broke - why I'm here
[08:57] <ubuntu_noob> i have one question already...  I stuck in a lexar drive and it was immediately seen as /media/LEXAR MEDIA
[08:57] <screechingcat> al, i never could start azureus without an error message
[08:57] <al> openssl, ok
[08:57] <DARKGuy> behold the power of auto USB
[08:57] <Microsoft_Spy> Thank ubotu
[08:58] <screechingcat> al, try ktorrent
[08:58] <nolimitsoya> ubuntu_noob, the question being?
[08:58] <al> :] 
[08:58] <FirstStrike> if you install azureus through the repositories it should be perfect
[08:58] <FirstStrike> i've never had an issue with it
[08:58] <ubuntu_noob> however, i cant execute stuff on it
[08:58] <ubuntu_noob> looks like my permissions are screwed
[08:58] <al> ktorrent is so terrible, crash each time
[08:58] <screechingcat> FirstStrike: i had errors even thru a repo install
[08:58] <BrokenPipe> Can anyone give me LVM advice?
[08:58] <FirstStrike> interesting
[08:58] <nolimitsoya> ubuntu_noob, windows binaries dont work in windows. also, you need xbit set to execute
[08:59] <nolimitsoya> !anyone | BrokenPipe
[08:59] <ubotu> BrokenPipe: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:59] <screechingcat> i love ktorrent. i used to use utorrent on wine, but ktorrent is a prefect clone
[08:59] <VigoFuse> Greetings
[08:59] <JoshJ> " windows binaries dont work in windows"  <-- dude, this explains a LOT
[08:59] <zcat[1] > do removable drives get mounted noexec?
[08:59] <JoshJ> :P
[08:59] <al> bitcomet is so good
[08:59] <ubuntu_noob> yes they do get mounted noexec
[08:59] <zcat[1] > JoshJ: not what he meant, but still often true...
[08:59] <BrokenPipe> So, I'm following the LVM HOWTO, and I'm trying to do a vgextend, but I'm getting the error "No physical volume label read from /dev/sdc1 \n /dev/sdc1 not identified as an existing physical volume \n Unable to add physical volume '/dev/sdc1' to volume group 'vg0'."  Any ideas why?
[08:59] <nolimitsoya> JoshJ, >_< sorry, that was a slip of the mind...
[08:59] <JoshJ> zcat[1]  : i know :P
[08:59] <ubuntu_noob> but i dont know how to undo that
[08:59] <DARKGuy> JoshJ: Lol
[08:59] <screechingcat> has microsft got any programs for linux
[09:00] <FirstStrike> haha..
[09:00] <JoshJ> yes actually
[09:00] <php-freak> Now whats gnome is that the kernal?
[09:00] <JoshJ> no
[09:00] <ubuntu_noob> uhm its not a windozer binary dude
[09:00] <JoshJ> linux is the kernel
[09:00] <JoshJ> gnome is your desktop manager
[09:00] <JoshJ> !gnome
[09:00] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[09:00] <FirstStrike> microsoft switched to linux for their firewalls as well
[09:00] <DARKGuy> Interesting
[09:00] <orestyle5> Microsoft was handing out tshirts at OSCON in Portland, Oregon.  That might be considered a program for linux right?
[09:00] <nolimitsoya> ubuntu_noob, then, as i said, you need x bit set for the executable, and make sure the drive is not mounted with noexec
[09:01] <al> I find the openssl is already installed, but the Azureus still black, whats wrong?
[09:01] <ubuntu_noob> i somehow have to tell the usb drive to mount as exec
[09:01] <al> No SSL provider available
[09:01] <orestyle5> Dosen't microsoft use qmail for hotmail?
[09:01] <sean_> Question - Cant startx API mismatch nvidia kernel module older than X module, after running nvidia installer
[09:01] <christian1222> hi guys, i just installed ubuntu 6.06 (linux super beginner) and the sound does not work. I have looked online, but I cant figure it out. Any ideas?
[09:01] <zcat[1] > all MS's DNS is hosted on Akamai afaik...
[09:01] <nolimitsoya> !multimedia
[09:01] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[09:01] <nolimitsoya> hm... thats not what i wanted :/
[09:02] <zcat[1] > and they hide behind Akamai every time they're under a DDoS attack..
[09:02] <al> but my Maya and Shake work fine, that's great
[09:02] <stephano> hello. My usplash on the start is kubuntu, and on the shutdown is ubuntu. How can i make it all to ubuntu theme?
[09:02] <JoshJ> would sudo apt-get remove kde-splash do it, or would that break something else?
[09:02] <nolimitsoya> is there still no working torrentprogram for gtk? im sick of having to run torrent trhough wine
[09:02] <orestyle5> if they dont trust microsoft software for hotmail, why should you?
[09:02] <nolimitsoya> JoshJ, it would break kubuntu-desktop :P
[09:03] <JoshJ> uh...
[09:03] <JoshJ> isn't kubuntu-desktop just a metapackage?
[09:03] <nolimitsoya> bingo :)
[09:03] <yuesefa> nolimitsoya: u r a ubuntu guru. Thank u very much!
[09:03] <JoshJ> heh
[09:03] <screechingcat> nolimitsoya: bittorrent works
[09:03] <nolimitsoya> broken metapackages are a bad thing ;)
[09:03] <zcat[1] > gnome-torrent?
[09:03] <VigoFuse> JoshJ:There is a command to stop the Splash Screens,,I forgot it,but it exists
[09:03] <nolimitsoya> screechingcat, not even comparable to torrent
[09:03] <zcat[1] > gnome-btdownload sorry...
[09:03] <stephano> i've just tried to set the alternatives, and that's what i've got
[09:03] <JoshJ> someone just said something about ktorrent
[09:04] <christian1222> I just installed ubuntu 6.06 (linux super beginner) and the sound does not work. I have looked online, but I cant figure it out. Any ideas?
[09:04] <nolimitsoya> zcat[1] , same story im afraid...
[09:04] <screechingcat> nolimitsoya: yes but you asked about a working client. bittorrent works
[09:04] <JoshJ> linux super beginner, wtf?
[09:04] <ubuntu_noob> lexar media properties: "You are not the owner, so you can't change these properties" D'oh
[09:04] <nolimitsoya> JoshJ, yes, but thats qt ;)
[09:04] <christian1222> yep
[09:04] <zcat[1] > I use rtorrent.. but afaik gnome-btdownload works
[09:04] <JoshJ> ubuntu_noob: use sudo?
[09:04] <screechingcat> nolimitsoya: but if you want gtk try transmission
[09:04] <ubuntu_noob> how do you sudo a mouse click?
[09:04] <JoshJ> ubuntu_noob: go in the terminal and sudo chmod or chown it? :\
[09:04] <JoshJ> not sure what you're trying to do
[09:05] <nolimitsoya> screechingcat, ill check it out. ty :)
[09:05] <ubuntu_noob> ok
[09:05] <JoshJ> so i'd like to have kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop, how do i do that without changing my splash screen off from the regular ubuntu one?
[09:05] <VigoFuse> christian1222: What Sound Device/Card are you useing?
[09:05] <nolimitsoya> !transmission
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about transmission - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <christian1222> VigoFuse: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller
[09:06] <screechingcat> nolimitsoya: i dont think its in the repos
[09:06] <nolimitsoya> so... not in the repos yet is it :/
[09:06] <christian1222> VigoFuse: thats what lspci -v yields
[09:06] <orestyle5> christian1222:  Dell?
[09:06] <christian1222> VigoFuse: no, sony vaio
[09:06] <crimsun> christian1222: pastebin the output from ``amixer''
[09:06] <screechingcat> nolimitsoya: its actually for OS X. but i found Ubuntu debs somewhere once
[09:06] <Cas> Hi, does anyone know how to mount an encrypted partition through the CLI? (LUKS made with cryptsetup)
[09:06] <VigoFuse> christian1222: Did you try the fglrx?
[09:07] <JoshJ> 0 upgraded, 239 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:07] <JoshJ> Need to get 181MB of archives.
[09:07] <JoshJ> After unpacking 577MB of additional disk space will be used.
[09:07] <JoshJ> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y
[09:07] <JoshJ> :)
[09:07] <DARKGuy> JoshJ: Lol, nice
[09:07] <orestyle5> Nice
[09:07] <JoshJ> i'll figure out the splash stuff later
[09:07] <ubuntu_noob> ok i do  sudo chmod 777 test  and no error message, but it remains -rwx---------
[09:07] <stephano> JoshJ: i have the same problem as yours
[09:08] <JoshJ> that's hardly a problem...
[09:08] <JoshJ> the splash will come later :P
[09:08] <stephano> JoshJ: but i have already installed kubuntu
[09:08] <JoshJ> yes, well
[09:08] <screechingcat> JoshJ: there's some command to select usplash like sudo update-alternatives config-usplash
[09:08] <VigoFuse> JoshJ: Its somethin easy like 'sudo no-splash' or some such thing
[09:08] <guebay> I just installed Edgy. And now the updater shows me that there are updateble packages, but if I make apt-get upgrade then he gives me that packages are hold back ( http://rafb.net/paste/results/WVHD1U48.html ). How can I update them?
[09:08] <xipietotec> the instructions for adding google to deskbar seem out of date...does anyone have a clue how to do this?
[09:08] <JoshJ> tell you what, i'll figure that out later :P
[09:08] <christian1222> VigoFuse: i dont know what that is, im a big linux dummy
[09:08] <JoshJ> i'm waiting until i INSTALL kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop
[09:08] <ubuntu_noob> if a drive is mounted noexec, ho do you remount it for exec?
[09:09] <christian1222> crimsun: pastebin is taking some time, i dont know why
[09:09] <zcat[1] > mount /wherever -o remount,exec
[09:09] <stephano> screechingcat: i've tried alternatives, but on the start the splash is kubuntu and on the shutdown is ubuntu
[09:09] <VigoFuse> christian122: you and I are very alike then, I poked around and found the fglrx? thing on the Firums.
[09:09] <zcat[1] > with perhaps a sudo for luck
[09:09] <al> hello, I have VLC now, it's good to play AVI, but still not working on rmvb
[09:10] <al> just have sound but no vedio
[09:10] <guebay> How can I update "hold-back" packages , please?
[09:10] <ubuntu_noob> umount: /media/LEXAR MEDIA: device is busy
[09:10] <orestyle5> !fstab
[09:10] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[09:10] <Palish> Hey all
[09:10] <al> sorry, what can i do now
[09:10] <screechingcat> stephano: remove the kubuntu-usplash package and the ubuntu-usplash package from synaptic and then reinstall the ubuntu package
[09:10] <Palish> So I'm trying to install ubuntu.. When I boot from the cd, it reads "mount: function not implemented", and then won't go any further
[09:10] <Palish> won't boot into the installer, or anything
[09:10] <Palish> is this common?
[09:11] <desaparecidoo> Why if I change type of controls in gnome themes it doens't change?
[09:11] <christian1222> whats wrong with pastebin? its not working
[09:11] <christian1222> is there an easy alternative
[09:11] <JoshJ> try rafb.net/paste instead
[09:11] <nolimitsoya> Palish, id say no. :) check the media
[09:11] <zcat[1] > ubuntu_noob: sudo mount / media/LEXAR MEDIA -o remount,exec
[09:11] <JoshJ> i find that it's faster myself
[09:11] <stephano> screechingcat: it wants to delete kubuntu-desktop then.
[09:11] <VigoFuse> christian1222: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204910 <<thats not your fix, but its a start in the right direction
[09:11] <Palish> nolimitsoya: It didn't find any defects when I had it scan for them
[09:11] <zcat[1] > without the space...
[09:11] <christian1222> VigoFuse: Thanks, ill check it out
[09:11] <xipietotec> I can't find this developer key they're talking about (To integrate google into deskbar applet)
[09:11] <screechingcat> stephano: no prob. thats just a metpackage. go ahead
[09:11] <VigoFuse> :-)
[09:11] <nolimitsoya> Palish, check if there is a bug filed on lanchpad, and try the alternate install cd
[09:12] <nolimitsoya> Palish, also, if its a rw, try a r. some drives are picky about booting rw:s
[09:12] <VigoFuse> The gns guys kinda funny tonight.
[09:12] <umista> where can i learn about making some scripts
[09:12] <Palish> my problem is like, exactly this guy's, nolimitsoya: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/626835.html
[09:12] <nolimitsoya> umista, scripts?
[09:13] <Palish> seems like not a CD issue
[09:13] <xipietotec> anyone?
[09:13] <nolimitsoya> Palish, try the alternate cd then
[09:13] <Palish> Ok  :(
[09:13] <umista> yea so i make somthing to do a bunch of commands in one go
[09:13] <Palish> is there a way of booting from a CD without burning a CD? Hehe
[09:13] <Palish> I have no more blank CD's.. Just ran out
[09:13] <nolimitsoya> umista, try 'man bash'
[09:13] <christian1222> crimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/nnypjG23.html
[09:14] <nolimitsoya> umista, otherwise, you can just separate each command with &&, fex 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[09:14] <guebay> What does it mean that packages are "hold back " ? That they will be updated in the next time/try?
[09:14] <guebay> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions
[09:14] <nolimitsoya> guebay, they wont be updated unless you do a dist-upgrade
[09:15] <VigoFuse> umista: I am playing with Ruby to do sudo|actions in bash form, is slow going, but its fun
[09:15] <guebay> nolimitsoya: I tried that but he don't update them
[09:15] <screechingcat> guebay: it means there is some conflict with some other package
[09:15] <umista> nice, so how would i place this into a file and make it working
[09:15] <al> hey, Can i download some other codec for playing RMVB files with VLC?
[09:15] <stephano> screechingcat: now i try to restart. i'll be back
[09:15] <gaviin> Does anyone use FbDesk?
[09:15] <ubuntu_noob> oooh  mount -o remount,exec worked ! thanks!
[09:15] <JoshJ> localepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/locale: 9076K
[09:15] <screechingcat> stephano: cheers, mate
[09:15] <guebay> Can you please have a look at it: http://rafb.net/paste/results/WVHD1U48.html ? I just instlled Edgy
[09:15] <Bonez56> hi, i just installed edgy onto my 320gb sata drive, now when I boot it says "Error 22: No such partition" - I have tried lots of things already, can someone help?
[09:15] <nolimitsoya> al, no. vlc uses its own codecs. you could try mplayer
[09:15] <JoshJ> i just freed nearly 10 megs of manpages from the install of kubuntu and xubuntu :D
[09:16] <al> ok, I'm x64 system, that might couldnt play it either
[09:16] <guebay> screechingcat: But what conflict, there couldn't be a conflict because I just installed Edgy .
[09:16] <ubuntu_noob> zcat[1]  thanks for the tip
[09:16] <nolimitsoya> guebay, try aptitude
[09:16] <screechingcat> guebay: can you give me an english version of the terminal output please ?
[09:17] <Firefishe> how do I install beryl from svn for ubuntu 6.06?
[09:17] <screechingcat> Firefishe: check out beryl-project.org
[09:17] <JoshJ> !beryl
[09:17] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:17] <al> Should I install the Kmplayer for my ubuntu?
[09:17] <al> gnome
[09:17] <guebay> screechingcat: How can i do that?
[09:17] <nolimitsoya> al, no, just mplayer
[09:17] <nolimitsoya> al, sudo apt-get install mplayer
[09:17] <VigoFuse> Bonez56: There is a free download at zednet today , bunch of em, one is like Parti Magic, and then there are 4 Data Recovery utes, make a goof e.mail, sign up and check em out.
[09:18] <Firefishe> screechingcat: I did, but their svn instructions are a tad cryptic, might I ask for some help?>
[09:18] <crimsun> christian1222: amixer set 'External Amplifier' off
[09:18] <Cas> Hi, does anyone know how to mount an encrypted partition through the CLI? (LUKS made with cryptsetup)
[09:18] <screechingcat> guebay: well i dont know. but i dont know how to read that language, so i cant help you
[09:18] <nolimitsoya> VigoFuse, why would anyone need partition magic, when theres gparted?;)
[09:18] <screechingcat> Firefishe: ask at ubuntu-xgl
[09:18] <al> ok,thanks
[09:18] <stephano> screechingcat: the splash is fine now, but it shows off-center
[09:18] <screechingcat> nolimitsoya: for operations with NTFS
[09:18] <Ilona> /server krakow.irc.pl
[09:19] <Ilona> /join #przyjacielenel
[09:19] <guebay> screechingcat: In the terminal  just says that the packages are hold back. The first lines are about reading the packages data
[09:19] <nolimitsoya> screechingcat, gparted does ntfs, doesnt it? :)
[09:19] <stephano> screechingcat: I want it 12801024
[09:19] <screechingcat> stephano: off-center ?
[09:19] <stephano> screechingcat: i mean it is in the upper-left corner.
[09:20] <Ilona> /server krakow.irc.pl
[09:20] <screechingcat> stephano: change the res in /etc/usplash.conf
[09:20] <christian1222> crimsun: I dont think that worked
[09:20] <Windy> =/
[09:20] <christian1222> crimsun: i tried it, but there is still no sound
[09:20] <VigoFuse> nolimtsoya: If one is working on a Windows OS HD any help is good help, I agree the gpart is great, but the freebies are offering some Data recovery, in case an error is made, and it uses the 516 M$ default sector sizeing.
[09:20] <nivosa> okay have to admit I'm new to linux, and am still trying to digest the vast material involved, but one simple question, what is the term line to install star office 8, I hate admitting I don't know what I'm doing, but.........I don't know what I'm doing and haven't used term years (at one time I ran Mandrake)
[09:20] <Bonez56> hi, i just installed edgy onto my 320gb sata drive, now when I boot it says "Error 22: No such partition" - I have tried lots of things already, can someone help?
[09:20] <screechingcat> guebay: try upgrading in synaptic. it will show you why the packages are held back
[09:20] <crimsun> christian1222: has sound ever been audible?
[09:20] <crimsun> christian1222: (in Ubuntu)
[09:20] <christian1222> no
[09:20] <Windy> i assume you HAVE to do it via terminal for some reason?
[09:21] <crimsun> christian1222: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 2
[09:21] <christian1222> it used to be
[09:21] <screechingcat> nolimitsoya: not all operations with NTFS
[09:21] <guebay> screechingcat: Okay, I will try. Thanks.
[09:21] <stephano> screechingcat: thanks, i'll try it
[09:21] <al> DId anybody watch the film BeerFest?
[09:21] <al> that was funny
[09:21] <BrokenPipe> So, I'm following the LVM HOWTO, and I'm trying to do a vgextend, but I'm getting the error "No physical volume label read from /dev/sdc1 \n /dev/sdc1 not identified as an existing physical volume \n Unable to add physical volume '/dev/sdc1' to volume group 'vg0'."  Any ideas why?
[09:21] <Windy> nivosa: any reason you can't use add/remove programs or failing that synaptic?
[09:21] <nolimitsoya> guebay, you could try aptitude as well. itll try to resolve the conflict in a more agressive way
[09:21] <nolimitsoya> *g
[09:22] <Windy> oh, that reminds me
[09:22] <christian1222> crimsun: still nothing, the sound worked before, but I had to do something to it I remember, then I reinstalled Linux, and it doesnt work again
[09:22] <screechingcat> nolimitsoya: i dont like aptitude. no supercow powers
[09:22] <Windy> can someone tell me where the partition/HDD management tool's gone in edgy?
[09:23] <Windy> used to be a nice handy option under system --> administration
[09:23] <nivosa> hmmm hadn't even thought of using the interface, just thought you had to install from term.........how would you add it from add/remove, just highlight and click from downloaded location?
[09:23] <nolimitsoya> screechingcat, me neither, but it can be handy with working out dependency problem :)
[09:23] <VigoFuse> Windy: It is called gparted
[09:23] <nolimitsoya> *s
[09:23] <frogzoo> BrokenPipe: I'm no expert, but do you need to add an lvm layer to sdc1 first, before adding it to the volume group?
[09:23] <Windy> nivosa: if you open it up, just click the package you want (e.g. star office)
[09:23] <Windy> it should take care of dependencies etc. for you
[09:23] <BrokenPipe> frogzoo: I did a 'pvcreate /dev/sdc1'
[09:23] <crimsun> christian1222: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 3
[09:23] <Windy> VigoFuse: where's that? sorry, i'm a horribly tuxnub
[09:24] <EdLin> are the bots gone?
[09:24] <xipietotec> anyone know how to set up google search in deskbar-applet?
[09:24] <JoshJ> !google
[09:24] <christian1222> crimsun: nope, dang!
[09:24] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[09:24] <frogzoo> BrokenPipe: thinks now you need an lvcreate?
[09:24] <JoshJ> bleh
[09:24] <frogzoo> BrokenPipe: nope, that's not it
[09:24] <crimsun> christian1222: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 1
[09:24] <stephano> screechingcat: now, on the shutdown, it's fine, but at the start it's still in the upper-left corner
[09:24] <MarkoKaa> guys, does anyone know something about Ubuntu (apache2) and subdomains?
[09:24] <VigoFuse> Windy: It will appear after the 4 part of the install, it is a GUI tool that resizes and sets the sector for the Ubuntu
[09:25] <christian1222> crimsun: no
[09:25] <BrokenPipe> frogzoo: I already made a Logical Volume.  I made it with sdb1, and now I want to extend to sdc1.  And I get that error.
[09:25] <Windy> VigoFuse: oh no, i dont mean the on install one
[09:25] <screechingcat> stephano: wierd. sorry thats about the extent of my knowledge of usplash
[09:25] <xipietotec> It tells me to go to api.google.com to create an account and get developer's key....but I don't see where to do that on the website
[09:25] <christian1222> crimsun: I dont know what it is, i will just try to get it figured out tomorrow
[09:25] <Windy> in dapper you could go look in admin and there'd be a tool to manage mounts/partitions
[09:25] <xipietotec> and then it says to download an SDK....but it doesn't say which SKD
[09:25] <xipietotec> SDK
[09:25] <christian1222> crimsun: thanks though, i appreciate the help, night
[09:25] <stephano> screechingcat: is the vga=795 right in grub?
[09:25] <crimsun> christian1222: are you using headphones?
[09:25] <Windy> where you could set drives to be not mounted, volume labels, etc.
[09:26] <Windy> that's what i'm looking for
[09:26] <christian1222> crimsun: no
[09:26] <xipietotec> Yeah, why did they get rid of the disks utility?
[09:26] <orestyle5> what is the program used to connect to windows server remotely (terminal something)
[09:26] <orestyle5> via linux
[09:26] <xipietotec> !info samba
[09:26] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 2836 kB, installed size 7200 kB
[09:27] <screechingcat> stephano: i dont know. everybody says to put in the vga line, but mine works best without any vga= line
[09:27] <xipietotec> !info lamp
[09:27] <ubotu> Package lamp does not exist in any distro I know
[09:27] <xipietotec> hrmm
[09:27] <Bonez56> hi, i just installed edgy onto my 320gb sata drive, now when I boot it says "Error 22: No such partition" - I have tried lots of things already, can someone help?
[09:27] <frogzoo> BrokenPipe: maybe you first need to add sdc1 as a concat volume to the volume group
[09:27] <stephano> screechingcat: anyway, thanks for the help. it is much better now :)
[09:27] <BrokenPipe> frogzoo: That's exactly what vgextend does.
[09:27] <xipietotec> orestyle5: Anyways windows networking is handled by samba and lamp.
[09:28] <christian1222> crimsun: oh well, tomorrow ill be back
[09:28] <Windy> umm...so, anyone?
[09:28] <screechingcat> stephano: cheers mate
[09:28] <orestyle5> xipietotec:  not windows networking.  To manage remote servers over internet.  similar to VNC but a plugin for gnome I think
[09:29] <al> NO... it still not working, isnt there a x64 theolustion for playing RMVB?
[09:29] <shinobi2> anyone got wireless card working on 6.10?
[09:29] <xipietotec> orestyle5: ah, beyond me then
[09:29] <VigoFuse> Windy: I was looking at the official docs for you,,spilled my coffee, lost my train of thought...it happens
[09:29] <orestyle5> Reality, we still have several windows servers, but using Ubuntu to manage them from home.  Connecting to Debian servers in NP
[09:29] <nolimitsoya> al, you could try realplayer. its in multiverse, i think...
[09:29] <Windy> lol
[09:29] <Windy> ah, gotta hate that
[09:30] <VigoFuse> now theres hot coffee in my shoe, and I am gonna fix that
[09:30] <xipietotec> Can anyone help me integrate google search into deskbar-applet?
[09:30] <al> you are not using a x64 system, are you? I gonna crash  :] 
[09:30] <orestyle5> I thought google toolbar was not out for linux yet?
[09:30] <nolimitsoya> al, wikipedia says both mplayer and xine should be able to play rmvb
[09:31] <Windy> hot coffee eh
[09:31] <xipietotec> orestyle5: It's not google-toolbar, its deskbar applet, but there's a way to integrate google-search into it.
[09:31] <orestyle5> or was that google talk?
[09:31] <Windy> i really gotta find that page which tells me how to use mplayer as my default player instead of bloody totem
[09:31] <nolimitsoya> al, 64bit is quite a bit of hazzle, still...
[09:31] <VigoFuse> Windy: what was the qeustion?
[09:31] <al> yes, they play rmvb in i386 very fine, but x64, is that x64?
[09:31] <orestyle5> Hmmm.
[09:31] <frogzoo> BrokenPipe: as I understand it, vgextend allocates space for a lv from within an existing vg, but you first need to add sdc1 to the vg - not sure how to do that though
[09:31] <al> ok
[09:31] <xipietotec> google talk also not linux'd, although it's possible to communicate to google-talk members through gaim
[09:31] <al> ok, thanks
[09:32] <Bonez56> hi, i just installed edgy onto my 320gb sata drive, now when I boot it says "Error 22: No such partition" - I have tried lots of things already, can someone help?
[09:32] <xipietotec> Windy: Its easy
[09:32] <Windy> VigoFuse: basically, dapper had an admin utility that'd let you look at mounts/HDDs/partitions that kinda thing
[09:32] <Windy> can't find it in edgy
[09:33] <xipietotec> Click on the file type you want to open in Mplayer, hit prefences, select "Open With ---> Mplayer"
[09:33] <Windy> xipietotec: oh that i know
[09:33] <Windy> but mplayer won't recognise the files
[09:33] <Windy> and i remember i had to get gstreamer plugs
[09:33] <Windy> which i got via the add/remove
[09:33] <Windy> but i feel like i missed a step somewhere
[09:33] <screechingcat> Windy: system>admin>device manager
[09:33] <yuesefa> nolimitsoya:can't install ubuntu on my new 64-bit core 2 duo processor
[09:33] <sean_> Hi all - trying to install nvidia drivers, is this the right place to ask?
[09:33] <orestyle5> xipietotec:  ya, messed with it alittle
[09:33] <yuesefa> is there any  solutions?
[09:33] <VigoFuse> Windy: Did you Multiverse and get the win32codecs?
[09:34] <DARKGuy> sean_: If your distro is ubuntu-based, I guess
[09:34] <orestyle5> xipietotec:  Hey found the program I was looking for.  Its called tsclient (gnome plugin)
[09:34] <sean_> Need help, cant startx API mismatch nvidia kernel module older than X module, after running nvidia installer, thoughts?
[09:34] <DARKGuy> sean_: ouch, I had a similar problem and couldn't solve it and had to reinstall. Sincerely I do't know how to fix it but maybe someone here does?
[09:34] <sean_> kernel - 1.0-7184 , X 1.0-9629
[09:35] <frogzoo> BrokenPipe: think the problem maybe is you're giving vgextend the name of the pv, not the lv, the man page example is "vgextend  vg00  /dev/sda4  /dev/sdn1"
[09:35] <CR265> Hi all!
[09:35] <Windy> screechingcat: i think i already looked there
[09:35] <tabman> I'm playing youtube and I can hear the sound, I can hear the sound with Rythmbox Music Player
[09:35] <Windy> VigoFuse: hmm, probably not
[09:35] <tabman> *I can't hear the sound on youtube
[09:35] <Windy> there's a link somewhere on how to do it right? i had to reinstall since last time updating to edgy hosed my system
[09:35] <CR265> Is Ogra around?
[09:35] <Windy> so i forgot how to enable universe repos and the names of the packages
[09:35] <VigoFuse> Windy: as I understand it, that is what needs to be done to play WMA
[09:36] <Windy> yeah
[09:36] <Windy> it shouldn't be needed for stuff like mpegs
[09:36] <JoshJ> !enablingrepositories
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enablingrepositories - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <BrokenPipe> frogzoo: I don't understand what you're saying. The example is exactly how I did it.
[09:36] <JoshJ> !repositories
[09:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:36] <JoshJ> there
[09:36] <tabman> ?
[09:36] <sean_> How do I remove the nvidia module from the kernel?
[09:36] <VigoFuse> It kinda messed up, NPR uses WMP,WMA as default, no .oog or whatever support.
[09:37] <JoshJ> !wmp
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <JoshJ> bleh
[09:37] <JoshJ> !restrictedformats
[09:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:37] <JoshJ> that has it :[
[09:37] <VigoFuse> !WMA
[09:37] <Windy> eh, confused
[09:37] <JoshJ> just follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[09:38] <Windy> screechingcat: yeah, i've looked at device manager, not the same
[09:38] <Windy> heh
[09:38] <Windy> i never remember which text file to edit
[09:38] <VigoFuse> Windy: Windows Codecs are Restricted and Propietary codecs, certain stuff has to be set in order to make them compatible.
[09:38] <Windy> yeah i'm aware of that
[09:39] <Windy> in my case mplayer won't play stuff that totem can play fine
[09:39] <JoshJ> it's /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:39] <JoshJ> and in that case just use totem, silly :P
[09:39] <Windy> sources that's the one
[09:39] <Windy> thanks
[09:39] <Windy> i know how to do it, i just never remember the file
[09:39] <Windy> oh and since when was file paths case sensitive?
[09:40] <we2by> hi
[09:40] <JoshJ> Windy: since 1991, when linux came out?
[09:40] <we2by> does the ubuntu live cd come with gnomebaker?
[09:40] <frogzoo> BrokenPipe: when you did pvcreate, did you pass options "format = "lvm2"" ?
[09:40] <Windy> bugger :/
[09:40] <JoshJ> we2by: not sure if it's installed on there by default, but you can install it while running from the live cd
[09:40] <Windy> it was stuffing me over to no end when i was trying to edit xorg.conf
[09:41] <JoshJ> (if it's not)
[09:41] <we2by> JoshJ, but is it on the cd?
[09:41] <al> oh~!!  Sweet!!  Realplayer can play rmvb file in x64 !  thanks buddy!
[09:41] <JoshJ> we2by: i don't know :P
[09:41] <frogzoo> BrokenPipe: btw, the manpages say the procedure is pvcreate, the vgextend, so you're on the right track
[09:41] <Windy> bah, odd linux conventions, i assume there's reason for it
[09:41] <tabman> I have no sound on youtube ?
[09:41] <JoshJ> Windy: casesensitivity is a good thing
[09:41] <tanlaan> how do you uninstall ubuntu? I installed it onto the wrong partition/drive. I want to get rid of ubuntu AND grub.
[09:41] <VigoFuse> Realplayer works in Ubuntu6.10 Edgy?
[09:41] <compengi_> we2by, gnomebaker isn't installed on default
[09:41] <Windy> improved security in case hackers jeopardise the lower case or some such
[09:41] <tanlaan> how do you uninstall ubuntu? I installed it onto the wrong partition/drive. I want to get rid of ubuntu AND grub.
[09:41] <orestyle5> !time
[09:41] <ubotu> time: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB
[09:41] <we2by> shit
[09:42] <Windy> JoshJ: in a password, maybe
[09:42] <we2by> I need a burn software :(
[09:42] <RawSewage> What MMORPGs work on Ubuntu
[09:42] <Windy> in a file path? senseless imo
[09:42] <frogzoo> Windy: file paths in nix have been case sensitive from year dot
[09:42] <JoshJ> yeah...
[09:42] <tanlaan> sorry for the double post
[09:42] <JoshJ> it's not just linux, it's unix period
[09:42] <Windy> RawSewage: not Lineage II, i know that
[09:42] <JoshJ> probably in POSIX specs somewhere
[09:42] <compengi_> we2by, install k3b
[09:42] <frogzoo> RawSewage: WoW works, best if you have nvidia though
[09:42] <Windy> JoshJ: oh well
[09:42] <JoshJ> RawSewage: WoW works under wine/cedega
[09:42] <we2by> compengi_, no internet connection
[09:42] <RawSewage> frogzoo, I do
[09:42] <Windy> i'm not really fully aware of the reasons/specs
[09:42] <compengi_> oh
[09:42] <DARKGuy> RawSewage: WoW works in Ubuntu
[09:42] <RawSewage> I need Cedega?
[09:42] <JoshJ> or wine
[09:43] <DARKGuy> Cedega and Wine do
[09:43] <RawSewage> JoshJ, plain Wine?
[09:43] <JoshJ> sure
[09:43] <FirstStrike> A lot of people running cedega have been getting banned by blizzard for 'running cheats' when in reality they were simply running cedega and it triggered their anti-cheats or whatever.
[09:43] <defrysk> !upgrade > defrysk
[09:43] <FirstStrike> So, be wary.
[09:43] <JoshJ> yeah, cedega, not wine- worth noting
[09:43] <RawSewage> ty
[09:43] <tanlaan> Can anyone help me with the uninstall of ubuntu?
[09:43] <compengi_> we2by, but by default linux has a burning cd which if you insert a blank cd it will pop up and will allow you to create data cd
[09:43] <JoshJ> !uninstall
[09:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:43] <DARKGuy> The Warden just doesn't get the process list in Cedega and it uses API not allowed by it so...
[09:43] <JoshJ> bleh
[09:43] <orestyle5> finally got joe installed
[09:44] <DARKGuy> it's just a plain stupid excuse for Blizzard, since people is using hacks anyways
[09:44] <RawSewage> Can I make money playing WoW, or is that too sweatshopped
[09:44] <frogzoo> RawSewage: you'll need the up to date wine deb, not the standard ubuntu repo one
[09:44] <we2by> ok, cool
[09:44] <RawSewage> frogzoo, ok
[09:44] <frogzoo> !wine | RawSewage
[09:44] <ubotu> RawSewage: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:44] <JoshJ> RawSewage: you can make money playing wow if you want to spend 16 hours a day borging
[09:44] <DARKGuy> RawSewage: JoshJ's right, besides it's not very encouraged
[09:44] <compengi_> we2by, but if you are willing to copy  a cd you can right click on the source cd a click then on copy then give a destination disk
[09:44] <FirstStrike> DARKGuy: There's a long, long thread of people banned complaining on the cedega and WoW forums
[09:44] <compengi_> and*
[09:44] <DARKGuy> FirstStrike: Yeah, I read it u.u
[09:44] <tabman> damn, this channel is overloaded now, I've come here after a month, Ubuntu needs to find other sources for quick help too many people using it resulting it too many people coming for help
[09:45] <VigoFuse> I made some sweet coins playing EQ.
[09:45] <JoshJ> it hasn't really gotten that much bigger in the past month
[09:45] <tabman> and no one replying to my query
[09:45] <DARKGuy> tabman: and too many learning which means lots of help
[09:45] <DARKGuy> tabman: Well, maybe nobody at this hour knows
[09:45] <JoshJ> tabman: repeat it then
[09:45] <tabman> I did twice man :)
[09:45] <JoshJ> oh
[09:45] <JoshJ> !flash sound
[09:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash sound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <JoshJ> or something
[09:45] <JoshJ> there's a wiki page for it
[09:45] <JoshJ> !sound
[09:45] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:46] <JoshJ> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:46] <JoshJ> it's on there
[09:46] <JoshJ> control-f for alsa-oss
[09:46] <orestyle5> imagine if 3 percent of the world using linux for desktop....
[09:46] <VigoFuse> Did the jury come back on EasyUbuntu? or is that still out?
[09:46] <JoshJ> orestyle5: i think it's more than that worldwide
[09:46] <frogzoo> orestyle5: what's the actual %?
[09:46] <britt> are there any alternatives for a login program
[09:46] <orestyle5> actually I think its less
[09:46] <JoshJ> VigoFuse: as far as i know it's basically "not as bad as automatix but it's not recommended"
[09:46] <britt> maybe one that can auto-login
[09:47] <JoshJ> !autologin
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autologin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <JoshJ> !login
[09:47] <ubotu> login: system login tools. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.16-2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 306 kB, installed size 2776 kB
[09:47] <JoshJ> grr, there's a wiki page for that
[09:47] <VigoFuse> JoshJ: Thank you
[09:47] <JoshJ> >:[
[09:47] <britt> JoshJ, nice.
[09:47] <britt> ;)
[09:47] <britt> uh, i know of a autologin script
[09:47] <JoshJ> xipietotec: skins?
[09:47] <xipietotec> gaim is not skinnable
[09:47] <orestyle5> frogzoo:  read an article, I thinks its 1%
[09:47] <JoshJ> ah hrm
[09:48] <JoshJ> orestyle5: it's definitely more than 1%
[09:48] <britt> but everytime i turn off the terminal, getty does not respawn
[09:48] <FirstStrike> oh, if anyone uses amsn..0.96 just came out a couple days ago. it's workin good so far.
[09:48] <JoshJ> i'd guess maybe 5-10 percent worldwide
[09:48] <al> thanks for helping~  bye bye
[09:48] <orestyle5> JoshJ:  for servers yes, but desktops?
[09:48] <JoshJ> keep in mind europe has a higher linux adoption rate than america
[09:48] <nikin> i hate update managger
[09:48] <JoshJ> i believe germany and france are pushing 30% linux?
[09:48] <JoshJ> something like that
[09:48] <orestyle5> JoshJ:  I need to find that linux article
[09:48] <orestyle5> linux article
[09:48] <Microsoft_Spy> When people get of hold of Vista they will probly be changing quicker too
[09:48] <orestyle5> Ya, wait till vista comes out
[09:49] <JoshJ> OMG it's a microsoft spy quick everyone hide!
[09:49] <JoshJ> >_>
[09:49] <Microsoft_Spy> Vista is craaaapy
[09:49] <JoshJ> heh yeah
[09:49] <lola> hey.. I installed ubuntu on the third partition of my macbook yesterday, with lilo as a bootloadder, and everything worked fine until my approx~ twentieth reboot responded with ten printed rows of 9A 9A 9A 9A....
[09:49] <JoshJ> did you see the article about the shutdown menu?
[09:49] <lola> any tips?
[09:49] <JoshJ> lola: you sure it wasn't the 30th?
[09:49] <nikin> why can't that program correctly calculate the time what is left over? it is wrong for about 1200%, if not more
[09:49] <JoshJ> every 30 reboots ubuntu wants to check the filesystem
[09:49] <lola> ;P
[09:49] <orestyle5> My InformationWeek had some article on Vista
[09:49] <lola> I'm thinking that it might have to do with an update of my kernel
[09:50] <JoshJ> i find it hilarious that it took them over a year to get that silly shutdown menu
[09:50] <Microsoft_Spy> I like how ubuntu server doesn't do graphical gui by default
[09:50] <JoshJ> i thought most (non-NT) servers did no-graphics by default?
[09:50] <orestyle5> why would you want a gui on a server?
[09:50] <Microsoft_Spy> Dunno mate.....reading between the lines Mark Shuttleworth wants to replace Debian eventually
[09:50] <JoshJ> to do a better job of BOFHing
[09:50] <VigoFuse> To play games!
[09:51] <JoshJ> actually shuttleworth's basically said ubuntu can't exist without debian
[09:51] <orestyle5> Sweet games on the dual processor server....  Those where the days
[09:51] <lola> JoshJ but do you think that it might effect lilo?
[09:51] <JoshJ> i assume you'd be "better off" with ubuntu servers if you used ubuntu desktops
[09:51] <JoshJ> oh, don't use lilo, i have no clue :(
[09:51] <Microsoft_Spy> Josh...Sorry wrong window., but yeah can't exist at the moment, but when he gets some more financial backing that might be a different story
[09:52] <lola> macbooks are sucky computers to get working with linux
[09:52] <lola> :(
[09:52] <Microsoft_Spy> JoshJ.....Samba works good
[09:52] <JoshJ> i'm starting to think some major linux distro should basically make the equivalent of mac stores near college campuses
[09:52] <frogzoo> Microsoft_Spy: can't be done - Linux only works because of the community
[09:52] <JoshJ> i know if a store selling computers built *for* linux opened up near GT it'd do well
[09:52] <matthew_> lol, it took them 20 something people to "Design" the shutdown menu and get the code written...puh-freakin'-leaze
[09:53] <matthew_> good night, all
[09:53] <Microsoft_Spy> frogzoo....The community will still exist, I suspect if Debian keeps loosing it's user base they will need somewhere to go
[09:53] <orestyle5> I think most linux distros should find a standard way to do packages
[09:53] <we2by> lola, I got a macboook working with ubuntu edgy
[09:53] <VigoFuse> Ubuntu is being sold all over Amazon, 4.95-6.95 a pop, Winders came down, $79.00 now,,,xp Home
[09:53] <JoshJ> orestyle5: there basically are- apt and rpm
[09:53] <frogzoo> Microsoft_Spy: there's several other distros hanging off debian's coattails too
[09:53] <orestyle5> yast?
[09:54] <orestyle5> What is mandrava using?
[09:54] <JoshJ> yast is a full blown sysadmin tool isn't it?
[09:54] <JoshJ> mandriva uses rpm/yum
[09:54] <lola> we2by, nice! I installed edgy too..
[09:54] <britt> in edgy, what is used instead of cron?
[09:54] <JoshJ> suse uses rpm, i think yast is just a different frontend
[09:54] <orestyle5> Just came to mind, not really sure
[09:54] <JoshJ> !cron
[09:54] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[09:54] <orestyle5> Ah
[09:54] <JoshJ> !anacron
[09:54] <ubotu> anacron: a cron-like program that doesn't go by time. In component main, is optional. Version 2.3-11ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 232 kB
[09:54] <lola> we2by did you experience bootloader problems?
[09:54] <britt> i need to run something every second
[09:54] <JoshJ> hrm
[09:54] <JoshJ> not it i guess
[09:54] <JoshJ> !vickycron
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vickycron - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <xipietotec> I hope the gaim people decide to copy gtalk's GUI
[09:54] <frogzoo> britt: there's cron & anacron
[09:54] <we2by> lola, I got kernel panic form time to time, but it is a kown issue
[09:54] <xipietotec> it's so much better...
[09:54] <Microsoft_Spy> frog: Mark Shuttleworth said in an interview on youtube that he wants Ubuntu to be what other people develop off....Reading into it, I was thinking he eventually wants to be where Debian is now
[09:54] <we2by> lola, be sure to run lilo -p
[09:55] <britt> frogzoo, whatever will let me run a command every second
[09:55] <lola> we2by ok
[09:55] <we2by> lola, there is a guide on macbook+ubuntu
[09:55] <britt> i assume cron?
[09:55] <we2by> google it
[09:55] <orestyle5> Who is Mark Shuttleworth?  :)
[09:55] <JoshJ> !shuttleworth
[09:55] <frogzoo> Microsoft_Spy: yeh, well sometimes you don't get what you wish for
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shuttleworth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <JoshJ> ...
[09:55] <nolimitsoya> bdfl
[09:55] <JoshJ> THAT should be fixed!
[09:55] <JoshJ> rofl
[09:55] <we2by> bbl
[09:55] <VigoFuse> LOL
[09:55] <nolimitsoya> sabdfl, to be precice :P
[09:55] <JoshJ> shuttleworth is basically the "benevolent dictator for life" of ubuntu
[09:55] <xipietotec> orestyle5: Mark Shuttleworth is a friend of Steve Ballmer....
[09:55] <frogzoo> !bdfl | orestyle5
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bdfl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <lola> we2by.. ok, yeah Ive followed it a bit but I got a bit scared when I woke up this morning and got such a weird problem :)
[09:55] <compengi_> how can i check what flash version i have for firefox?
[09:55] <Microsoft_Spy> frog...I agree....Sometimes if u have $ you have more of a chance of getting what you want too
[09:56] <crimsun> compengi_: about:plugins
[09:56] <nolimitsoya> !sapbdfl
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sapbdfl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <nolimitsoya> >_<
[09:56] <lola> we2by I spent all day yesterday fixing beryl and stuff :)
[09:56] <nolimitsoya> ubotu needs educating...
[09:56] <orestyle5> Ah, well, we got Linus here in my neck of the woods (Beaverton)
[09:56] <Microsoft_Spy> Sorta the Bill Gates of the Linux world
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about needs educating... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <JoshJ> ..heh
[09:56] <Microsoft_Spy> or would that be Linus Torvald....I dunno
[09:56] <nikin> compengi_ : rightclick on it
[09:57] <JoshJ> i don't think there is a "bill gates (or steve ballmer) of the linux world"
[09:57] <compengi_> nikin, right click on whaT?
[09:57] <orestyle5> Yep, Linus Torvald
[09:57] <frogzoo> Microsoft_Spy: I'd always assumed Canonical's aim was to turn a profit by offering the commercial support
[09:57] <nothlit> Lol ^
[09:57] <JoshJ> ...heh
[09:57] <nikin> Compengi: on a flash banner
[09:57] <JoshJ> actually ubuntu's purpose is to solve bug #1
[09:57] <JoshJ> https://launchpad.net/bug1.html
[09:57] <britt> i see crontab
[09:57] <nikin> compengi_ and there will be some kind of an About menu
[09:57] <britt> and i see the minute column
[09:57] <nothlit> linus is just as much a figure as bill gates or steve ballmer
[09:58] <britt> can i run something 1/60th of a minute
[09:58] <nolimitsoya> bug #1 is an irritating bug for sure...
[09:58] <compengi_> i didn't get where should i click =/
[09:58] <orestyle5> basically the father of linux
[09:58] <nolimitsoya> im hoping itll be patched soon :P
[09:58] <nothlit> britt, why?
[09:58] <frogzoo> JoshJ: bug #1 is an ubuntu bug -> you have deadlock
[09:58] <compengi_> and where to go
[09:58] <nikin> what is bug #1?
[09:58] <britt> nothlit, bc i cant get getty to respawn
[09:58] <britt> so when i turn off my serial terminal
[09:58] <JoshJ> nikin : https://launchpad.net/bug1.html
[09:58] <britt> getty dumps out
[09:58] <nolimitsoya> nikin, that we havnt reached world dominion yet :P
[09:59] <britt> i need to issue 'sudo start ttyS1' every 2 seconds or so
[09:59] <compengi> crimsun, where is about:plugin found?
[09:59] <nikin> JohsJ: i ame still in Terminal, but ty
[09:59] <JoshJ> uh that seems like a horrible workaround britt :(
[09:59] <JoshJ> nikin: use lynx?
[09:59] <Microsoft_Spy> frogzoo: Yeah I assumed that too....It's funny how success changes things though
[09:59] <JoshJ> or links?
[09:59] <britt> JoshJ, you have any other suggestion
[09:59] <JoshJ> britt : wait til you find a real solution? :(
[10:00] <britt> JoshJ, sigh
[10:00] <Microsoft_Spy> frogzoo: However I doubt he will ever weild as much control as Bill Gates, due to the whole community thing
[10:00] <JoshJ> i dunno, that whole "run a command every second via crontab" solution seems like it belongs on thedailywtf.com
[10:00] <nikin> JoshJ, yeye... you are right, but i ame darn tired .... its 10AM dude, and i didnt sleep, but i will look after it
[10:00] <JoshJ> Microsoft_Spy: i'd say that's a good thing
[10:00] <orestyle5> I love that site
[10:00] <Microsoft_Spy> I remember reading about a few comments bill made off the record about Linux being pretty good
[10:00] <frogzoo> Microsoft_Spy: remember because of the licencing, anyone can always just repackage ubuntu & if they do it better, that's where the user base will go
[10:00] <britt> i wonder if i could get the autologin script to pass the 'start ttyS1' at the end
[10:00] <nolimitsoya> Microsoft_Spy, well, he is the dictator for life... thing is, with linux there is always alternatives :) thats what will keep the hybris back
[10:00] <Microsoft_Spy> Josh...Ohh yeah, very good thing
[10:00] <JoshJ> giving too much power to one person is a bad thing
[10:01] <britt> anybody know how to pass a command using C
[10:01] <britt> i forgot
[10:01] <frogzoo> nolimitsoya: MS is the "self appointed" dictator for life - it's an important distinction
[10:01] <crimsun> compengi: the location bar
[10:01] <orestyle5> Ya, but nothing lasts forever!
[10:01] <nolimitsoya> frogzoo, i was talking about shuttleworth...
[10:02] <nikin> britt: what does this "start ttyS1" do?
[10:02] <Microsoft_Spy> We need more standards through linux distributions though.....particularly in package management.
[10:02] <orestyle5> That what I was saying
[10:02] <JoshJ> i kinda think it's okay to have deb and rpm
[10:02] <frogzoo> nolimitsoya: curiously Mark Shuttleworth = MS
[10:02] <JoshJ> there's not much beyond that
[10:02] <nolimitsoya> Microsoft_Spy, na, what we need is free, fair and open competition. thats what we got right now.
[10:02] <Microsoft_Spy> Hmmm yeah I like Puppy Linux too.....I designed a robot on it for my masters
[10:02] <JoshJ> no, we have pretend competition
[10:02] <orestyle5> Go to get a piece of software, theres the to five different packages
[10:02] <JoshJ> where microsoft pretends to let the others compete
[10:02] <nikin> JoshJ: my printer doesnt work coz we have deb and rpm... arghhhh
[10:03] <VigoFuse> 99% of us grew up on MS , and are still useing it, fact is the geek did good, now he married a babe, so he left the company, as geekes will do,
[10:03] <compengi> crimsun, you mean in firefox?
[10:03] <nolimitsoya> frogzoo, right... did catch it right the first time :)
[10:03] <orestyle5> I started out with Apple, but the screen was green
[10:03] <britt> nikin, starts a terminal to a serial port, so my terminal can access it
[10:03] <Microsoft_Spy> nolimit: Yeah I guess, that can be a pain in the but too...I guess it all depends what you want to achieve
[10:03] <britt> i have a serial terminal
[10:03] <nolimitsoya> JoshJ, i was referring to standardisation of package management
[10:03] <VigoFuse> Zenith 840, LOVED that Green Text
[10:03] <nikin> britt: and why do you need a new terminal ain every second?
[10:04] <we2by> omg, lol
[10:04] <nolimitsoya> Microsoft_Spy, its more a question of short term vs long term. open copmetition is the only good long term solution
[10:04] <we2by> op
[10:04] <britt> nikin, with my autologin script im running
[10:04] <JoshJ> i don't see why package management really needs to be standardized... nothing wrong with having apt-get as opposed to synaptic or yum or yast
[10:04] <orestyle5> Maybe the green screen will make a come back?
[10:04] <britt> it dumps getty out when i turn the terminal off
[10:04] <Microsoft_Spy> Vigo...Yeah he did do a good job, but u gotta admit the only thing making people use M$ is the whole familiarity/compatibility thing
[10:04] <Microsoft_Spy> nolimits....Yeah theres probly some truth in that too...
[10:04] <orestyle5> except with microsoft there is standarization with the exe.  so it is less confusing to new commers
[10:04] <frogzoo> JoshJ: it was segmentation that killed unix - it would be really good if all distros consolidated on one format, be it it deb or rpm
[10:05] <VigoFuse> My TandyTRS-83 still has a working Green Screen, its teeny tine kewl :-)
[10:05] <Microsoft_Spy> frog...My point exactly
[10:05] <britt> VigoFuse, i love my WYSE terminal
[10:05] <nolimitsoya> orestyle5, id like to refute that. the existance of sites lika ntcompatible is proff of the contrary ;)
[10:05] <britt> just wish it would work correctly
[10:05] <nolimitsoya> *e
[10:05] <Microsoft_Spy> Vigo...I got a commodore 64 and a Microbee
[10:05] <JoshJ> disagree, frogzoo - taking away options for the sake of everything being the same is bad
[10:05] <Microsoft_Spy> CPM rocks...
[10:05] <JoshJ> make it easy to convert rpm to deb, and vice versa, and there you go
[10:05] <VigoFuse> FORTRAN is the one true leader of the realm
[10:05] <nolimitsoya> frogzoo, rpm would be the end of it >_<
[10:06] <JoshJ> work on making the formats more compatible and work on alien
[10:06] <orestyle5> nolimitsoya:  never been to the site, but when I go to get software, there is one microsoft and 4 linux.
[10:06] <Microsoft_Spy> Josh...You can still have options and a standard...it's the vendors choice to follow the standard
[10:06] <VigoFuse> Comm64s are awesome. I still play HG2G on mine.
[10:07] <orestyle5> Where is Mandriva in all this. I heard they are off in left field with some package management.  Everyone wants to reinvent the wheel instead of using a package manager that work...
[10:07] <Microsoft_Spy> I bought one of those C64 joysticks....havn't had time to mod it yet
[10:07] <orestyle5> Or at least agree on one package manager that sort of works...
[10:07] <orestyle5> :)
[10:07] <we2by> something wrong with the current package management??
[10:07] <orestyle5> which one....
[10:08] <Microsoft_Spy> I don't have an indepth knowledge of what package management is better for what reason....But I have a soft spot for .deb
[10:08] <we2by> deb
[10:08] <JoshJ> orestyle5: gentoo is the one that's "in left field"
[10:08] <orestyle5> not that I am aware of...
[10:08] <nolimitsoya> could anyone help me sort this out: is it possible to painlessly expand (add drives to) an lvm raid level 5, without lifting and reinserting all data, while remaining online?
[10:08] <nolimitsoya> Microsoft_Spy, apt/portage > *
[10:08] <we2by> does Ubuntu support raid out of the box?
[10:08] <orestyle5> attach external scsi device?
[10:09] <nolimitsoya> we2by, yes
[10:09] <frogzoo> nolimitsoya: no, not possible - backup & restore
[10:09] <orestyle5> nolimitsoya:  maybe attach external scsi device?
[10:09] <nolimitsoya> frogzoo, ok, thats what i thought... linux needs zfs, bad!
[10:09] <nolimitsoya> orestyle5, that would help how exactly?
[10:10] <gaviin> Hello! How do I install .rpm packages? And... what are they?
[10:10] <VigoFuse> !.rpm
[10:10] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[10:10] <orestyle5> not sure. could you mount the external scsi device then format with whatever then do something with RAID?
[10:10] <nolimitsoya> gaviin, first of all, you should avoid them at all cost. second, use alien. man alien for instructions
[10:10] <orestyle5> ya, but you can use apt on other systems too
[10:10] <Firefishe> Can having more than one version of automake installed do weird things to a build?
[10:11] <gaviin> Hmmm. I didn't realize it was redhat.
[10:11] <nolimitsoya> orestyle5, im not talking about just hotswapping, but enlarging arrays...
[10:11] <frogzoo> gaviin: your best option is an ubuntu deb, then compile from source - rpms only as a last resort (via alien)
[10:12] <orestyle5> Not sure.  Well, we have an external RAID Array attached to scsi backplane.  I wonder if you could attach then make part of array with something like that.  I think I dont know... :)
[10:13] <gaviin> frogzoo: what is the difference between a deb, and the source?
[10:13] <frogzoo> gaviin: the deb is a packaged binary, the source you have to compile & install yourself & the package manager knows nothing about it
[10:14] <nothlit> nolimitsoya, wouldn't building your own package with checkinstall be preferable to using alien?
[10:15] <gaviin> damn. Then I guess there's no deb for this. OK thanks!
[10:15] <Microsoft_Spy> Yeah I've not had alot of luck with alien
[10:17] <JoshJ> i think i had to use alien for one thing on dapper and it worked fine
[10:17] <JoshJ> can't even remember what it was
[10:17] <gaviin> when you compile something from source, does it arrange the binaries in the same way downlodaing from apt-get would?
[10:17] <surface> any software can capture from my webcam and make a video?
[10:17] <gaviin> like, do I have to move anything after I compile?
[10:17] <JoshJ> i know that basically "if it's not in the ubuntu repositories it's not really recommended" is the general modus operandi, but i know how to fix things :p
[10:17] <surface> gavlin depends
[10:17] <JoshJ> gaviin: it probably doesn't compile into /usr/bin, nor put stuff in the menus, etc; unless that's part of the compiling script
[10:18] <surface> gaviin, when u configure, u can set it with prefix
[10:18] <surface> gaviin, ./configure --prefix=/usr
[10:18] <borg> what's the command that lists all the processes?
[10:18] <Toma-> little not on compiling: use checkinstall instead of make install
[10:18] <JoshJ> uh, why?
[10:18] <gaviin> borg: top
[10:18] <surface> can check out this, http://lne.blogdns.com/lbe/archives/156/installing-from-tarballs/
[10:19] <JoshJ> if the install.txt file says "do ./configure, make, then make install as root" you really should do that
[10:19] <Burnser> hi all
[10:19] <Toma-> borg: 'ps aux'
[10:19] <Microsoft_Spy> Anyone running feisty fawn at the moment ?
[10:19] <orestyle5__> I agree ...
[10:19] <Toma-> JoshJ: checkinstall will keep your system tidy
[10:19] <surface> any software can capture from my webcam and make a video?
[10:19] <nothlit> gaviin, They aren't optimised for debian (based) systems, but don't compile them manually, use checkinstall so you can cleanly manage/remove them
[10:19] <Toma-> surface: xawtv
[10:20] <surface> Toma-, oh thx i ll try
[10:20] <borg> omg, "top" is the greatest command ever
[10:20] <JoshJ> gah i can't start anything new right now >_<
[10:20] <JoshJ> i just managd to lock my system somehow
[10:20] <JoshJ> urg
[10:20] <highneko> Scrolling on gnome-panel switches active windows. How can I disable this?
[10:21] <gaviin> surface: There's no install instructions, what happens if I set that parameter to /usr?
[10:21] <JoshJ> yeah i'm going to end up shutting down from terminal
[10:21] <JoshJ> whee :(
[10:21] <surface> gaviin, it will install in /usr/bin
[10:21] <surface> /usr/lib
[10:21] <surface> if u set /usr/local
[10:22] <gaviin> oh, ok good. is there any time when that would be a bad idea?
[10:22] <surface> then /usr/local/bin /usr/local/lib instead
[10:22] <surface> gaviin, i always check my previous install from apt-get
[10:22] <surface> if it is at /usr then i ll check with configure
[10:23] <surface> ./configure --help
[10:23] <surface> usually it do tell u the default prefix
[10:23] <gaviin> ok
[10:23] <gaviin> i can live with that
[10:23] <gaviin> thanks a lot, ill try it out now
[10:25] <Zehrila> Hello everybody!
[10:26] <Zehrila> Is it possible to download a few packages (let's say, kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop), burn them to disc and then install them using a CLI-only installation of Ubuntu?
[10:26] <maxsoft> ?
[10:26] <maxsoft> so.. do you like create a new distro? :)
[10:26] <surface> gaviin, welcome
[10:27] <Zehrila> No, not a new distro.
[10:27] <Huibert> Zehrila: I think you should look into apt on cd
[10:27] <jimboedgynoob> Hey Zehrila good question I like it, I have wondered that - on other words a NETWORKLESS install of Ubuntu with extras?
[10:27] <Zehrila> The same distro; just need to install it on an offline system.
[10:27] <Zehrila> jimboedgynoob: Precisely!
[10:27] <Terminus> Zehrila: should be possible if you take care of the dependencies.
[10:27] <Huibert> Zehrila: here: http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/
[10:28] <Huibert> Zehrila: but AFAIK it's beta
[10:28] <Zehrila> Huibert: Alright, thanks a bunch. Lemme look into it. =] 
[10:28] <Zehrila> The dependencies could be a pain though, heh.
[10:28] <Terminus> well, i'd just download the packages(including dependencies), put them in /var/cache/apt/archives/, and run aptitude.
[10:29] <Huibert> Zehrila: not if you create the cd for / on similar systems
[10:29] <gaviin> surface: at the end of the config it says i need the X libraries and headers. is that X-dev?
[10:29] <Zehrila> I see.
[10:29] <surface> gaviin, u r compiling fluxbox?
[10:30] <gaviin> no, fbdesk
[10:30] <Zehrila> Terminus: So if I download the packages including dependencies using one system, copy them into /var/cache/apt/archives on the system on which I'm installing and run aptitude, it'd work fine?
[10:30] <surface> gaviin, this is the example of me recompile fluxbox
[10:30] <surface> http://my.opera.com/mysurface/blog/2006/12/02/i-recompile-my-fluxbox-from-source
[10:30] <surface> gaviin, u need this xlibs-dev
[10:31] <jimboedgynoob> Does ubuntu come as a dvd install? could google it but that might be the answer to a networkless install?
[10:31] <surface> apt-get install xlibs-dev
[10:31] <Huibert> Zehrila: I don't know if that is sufficient, but I would guess so
[10:31] <surface> gaviin, u fluxbox user?
[10:31] <Huibert> jimboedgynoob: yes, 6.10 is available as dvd
[10:31] <Huibert> !edgy
[10:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[10:31] <Zehrila> jimboedgynoob: I guess it does; I recall seeing it somewhere, though I might be wrong.
[10:31] <jimboedgynoob> ok thanks huibert
[10:32] <gaviin> surface: Yeah, fluxbuntu.
[10:32] <gaviin> surface: Reading.
[10:32] <Terminus> Zehrila: theoretically, yes. oh, but you'll have to update the package list first. i dunno how to do that on a box with no net connection.
[10:33] <Huibert> Terminus: yep, the packagelist most be updated..... there should be an apt-* command to do this
[10:33] <Zehrila> Ah yes, that I didn't think of.
[10:33] <DARKGuy> Hm, I've been intrigued, how can I scroll the items of the "top" list?
[10:34] <gaviin> DARKGuy: shift+> or < changes the sorted column
[10:35] <gaviin> DARKGuy: Other than that I think you have to set the height to see a longer list
[10:35] <DARKGuy> gaviin: Aw, too bad... oh well, thanks though :)
[10:35] <Huibert> jimboedgynoob: look here, it's a german wiki but shows some links: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Downloads
[10:36] <pubuntu> hi. how to add footnote in the end of section (not page or document) in openoffice?
[10:37] <jimboedgynoob> thanks huibert bookmarked it for later translation
[10:37] <Zehrila> It seems APTonCD would only work for packages downloaded using APT-GET or APTITUDE. I'm looking for a way to download them using Windows.
[10:38] <jimboedgynoob> Zehrila the "dependency hell" cannot be solved downloading with Windows as far as I know
[10:38] <Zehrila> And then install them offline on ubuntu, by burning them on CD or simply accessing them from the hard drive.
[10:38] <Huibert> Zehrila: apt on cd is a tool to "freeze" your current system
[10:38] <Zehrila> Yups, it seems so.
[10:38] <Zehrila> Freeze and then rejuvenate using that frozen state...
[10:39] <Huibert> Zehrila: if the other pc has no internet, you could also install a "shadow copy" on the windows/internet machine
[10:40] <RobNyc> is there any way to read my osx partition
[10:40] <Huibert> Zehrila: then you could use apt on cd on the shadow to upgrade the main pc
[10:40] <Zehrila> A shadow copy?
[10:40] <Huibert> Zehrila: install a ubuntu in vmware player or something
[10:40] <jimboedgynoob> Sorta like Norton Ghost Huibert?
[10:40] <Zehrila> Oh that.
[10:41] <Huibert> jimboedgynoob: nope, NG does sector like copies of partitions (AFAIK)
[10:41] <Zehrila> Yups, that makes perfect sense.
[10:41] <jimboedgynoob> OK huibert
[10:42] <Huibert> jimboedgynoob: which makes sense in wondows world, because you cannot ressurect you sstem installation with software of the net.
[10:42] <Zehrila> Install ubuntu in vmware, download all the stuff I need, use APTonCD to get the snapshot and burn it on disc, then install a fresh copy and use APTonCD to get it to the condition it was in wmware...
[10:42] <Terminus> Zehrila: if the windows computer is anywhere near your ubuntu computer, it might be easier to network the two than figure out how to update offline. =)
[10:42] <Huibert> Zehrila: and rince, lather, repeat
[10:42] <Zehrila> Heh.
[10:43] <jimboedgynoob> Yes I used to use Norton Ghost quite a bit in the Windows 98 days - quite handy 8-)
[10:43] <Zehrila> Terminus: There's only one computer.
[10:43] <Huibert> Zehrila: the one computer is connected to the net?
[10:43] <Zehrila> I can only set ubuntu up in commandline mode; other installation methods somehow crash.
[10:43] <Terminus> Zehrila: oh, no ubuntu drivers for your net connection hardware?
[10:43] <simon92> hello
[10:43] <Zehrila> Well, lemme explain the whole scenario. It is one machine and the only internet connection I have is dial-up.
[10:43] <Huibert> simon92: hello...
[10:43] <sujan> hi, i have installed ubuntu from syanptic, but then when i try to run php from cli, it shows errors, how do i rectify that?
[10:44] <sujan> ufff, installed php using synaptic
[10:44] <Huibert> Zehrila: dailup :-((
[10:44] <Zehrila> Now the only error-free installation I can manage from the ubuntu-alternate disc is a CLI-only one.
[10:44] <simon92> Why do I get banned when I want to join #ubuntu-de?
[10:44] <Zehrila> (Can't install from ubuntu main disc)
[10:44] <Huibert> simon92: keine Ahnung :-)
[10:45] <simon92> kann ich denn hier deutsch reden?
[10:45] <Huibert> simon92: sorry, english only here.
[10:45] <Hirvinen> !german
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about german - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <Zehrila> And once I somehow later managed installing ubuntu-desktop using apt...it was quite an erronous instalation.
[10:45] <Huibert> !english
[10:45] <Hirvinen> Blah.
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about english - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <IamUnique> If i download ubuntu and burn it to a cd, does it have the live cd so i can see what's it like before i decide to install it or not?
[10:45] <jimboedgynoob> haha Huibert I'm running on diallup right now - major updates on the system I ket them keep running overnight
[10:45] <Zehrila> IamUnique: Yes, it does.
[10:45] <Huibert> there is an ubotu thingy somewhere
[10:45] <Hirvinen> simon92: Try #ubuntu-de for German.
[10:46] <Zehrila> IamUnique: Unless you go for the alternative-install CD, the default CD you download is the Live one.
[10:46] <simon92> #ubuntu-de
[10:46] <gaviin> simon92: /join #ubuntu-de
[10:46] <simon92> i know
[10:46] <Terminus> Zehrila: you mean you can't install ubuntu-desktop from the alt disc?
[10:46] <gaviin> kk
[10:46] <simon92> i forgot
[10:46] <gaviin> so now he speaks english
[10:46] <Sybux> Hi. I've got some problem with my postfix server. Every time I try to send myself an email, postfix says : Relay access denied and I don't see where I could be wrong
[10:46] <gaviin> :  )
[10:47] <RobNyc> !osx
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about osx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <IamUnique> will it automaticly boot into live cd mode? or into the setup?
[10:47] <Huibert> !hpfs
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hpfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <simon92> verbannt   Sie sind aus #ubuntu-de verbannt worden .   X Schlieen
[10:47] <simon92> WTF
[10:47] <Huibert> IamUnique: it's the same
[10:47] <Zehrila> Terminus: I can, but not with the installation. I can only manage it by doing a CLI-only install first, and then using apt (apt installs it from CD, since the network isn't connected)
[10:47] <gael> bonjour a tous - hi all
[10:47] <Zehrila> not with the *OS-installation
[10:48] <Terminus> Zehrila: that is weird...
[10:48] <Sybux> !wiki postfix
[10:48] <simon92> I haven't done anything bad -.-
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wiki postfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <Huibert> simon92: have you been a naughty boy on #ubunut-de
[10:48] <Zehrila> And even then, it gives a lot of errors and warnings while installing ubuntu-desktop but I finally manage getting the GUi, which again isn't quite bug-free. That's the reason I just wiped the ubuntu partitions and decided to start over again, after getting info about offline package installation from here.
[10:48] <Huibert> Zehrila: get a 5$ nic card of ebay, saves a lot off hassle
[10:48] <simon92> huibert that was the first time i had connected ^^
[10:49] <boink> and get a rtl card, they work fine on linux :)
[10:49] <Zehrila> NIC card?
[10:49] <Huibert> simon92: maybe somebody else used the same nick before?
[10:49] <boink> ethernet card
[10:49] <Zehrila> Oh, that.
[10:49] <simon92> huibert that could be
[10:49] <Zehrila> I've got one already. The problem is, there's no LAN here.
[10:49] <simon92> I try another
[10:50] <boink> ok, use someone's open wireless connection
[10:50] <Zehrila> The machine is a laptop with ethernet built-in but the only internet connection method I have here is dialup.
[10:50] <IamUnique> Placing the files which typically would be stored on a hard drive, onto a ram disk. This however does cut down on the RAM available to applications, reducing performance somewhat.
[10:50] <boink> ok, use the dialup
[10:50] <Zehrila> Got wi-fi built-in too, but no hotspots around. I'm in a developing country, heh.
[10:50] <IamUnique> I got 512MB of ram would it work with my system?
[10:50] <Huibert> Zehrila: are you sure you want to continue using this dailup thing ??
[10:50] <boink> ubuntu works fine with dial-up
[10:50] <Zehrila> Huibert: At the moment, being broke, I don't seem to have much of a choice.
[10:51] <simon1992> it seems to depend on me -.-
[10:51] <Zehrila> BTW one more thing...
[10:51] <RobNyc> !ntfs
[10:51] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[10:51] <Huibert> simon1992: maybe they don't like germans :-)
[10:51] <RobNyc> !hfs
[10:51] <simon1992> huibert sure
[10:51] <gael> tremulous players online ?
[10:51] <Spee_Der> Good morning everyone. . .
[10:51] <gael> hi
[10:51] <Huibert> Guten Morgen
[10:52] <Zehrila> While I had the GUI, there was an issue. I couldn't connect using my dialup modem. It gave me the tone when I tried it using the bundled telephony application but I couldn't find anything to connect to my ISP using my modem.
[10:52] <RoC_MM_0w> who said tremulous?
[10:52] <Spee_Der> !de | Huibert
[10:52] <ubotu> Huibert: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:52] <IamUnique> Would my system run ubuntu live cd since i got 512MB RAM?
[10:52] <MarkoKaa> Can anyone help me with apache2 and subdomains? I must get domain.tld/~user to user.domain.tld automaticly when I add user :P
[10:52] <simon1992> i got a x2 3800+ before automatix they show two cpus after automatix or something don't know it shows 1 cpu
[10:52] <Huibert> IamUnique: yes, the system should run
[10:53] <Zehrila> There was an option in the system menu which listed my LAN card, my Wi-Fi card and my modem as the methods available to connect, and had checkboxes with each to enable/disable. I tried entering my dialp connection info in the modem option but there was no option to actually dial.
[10:53] <pradeep> IamUnique, yes
[10:53] <Spee_Der> gnotepad
[10:53] <Zehrila> Checking/unchecking the box didn't seem to dial.
[10:53] <Huibert> Zehrila: isn't there an aktivate/deactivate button to the right?
[10:53] <Spee_Der> sri, wrong window again...
[10:53] <frying_fish> simon1992: automatix is not a good idea
[10:53] <gaviin> surface: Thanks so much! Finally worked!
[10:53] <jimboedgynoob> Zehrila - my story. I am on a Laptop running Ubuntu talking wirelessly to a server running Windows 2000 that is using a wireless dongle. Win2000 is connected via Diallup. The only reason I'm using Win2000 on the server is that I cannot find a working driver for the dongle on Linux.
[10:54] <simon1992> frying fish why not?
[10:54] <frying_fish> because it does things to your system in the non-correct way
[10:54] <IamUnique> thanks
[10:54] <frying_fish> and as you have found out is quite likely to break things.
[10:54] <Terminus> MarkoKaa: hrmmm... mod_rewrite?
[10:54] <Zehrila> Huibert: Yups, there is a check-box to activate/deactivate but checking/unchecking it doesn't seem to do anything.
[10:54] <MarkoKaa> Terminus: hmm... .htaccess in /var/www ?
[10:54] <simon1992> frying can you tell me how i unchange that ?
[10:55] <Huibert> Zehrila: hhmmmm, it's a long time I ve used dailup
[10:55] <Zehrila> jimboedgynoob: I see. Well, I guess I'll try going to some hotel with a wifi hotspot in the evening to take care of the connectivity.
[10:55] <RoC_MM_0w> Mentioning Automatix...is EasyUbuntu more correct or less likely to break stuff?
[10:55] <frying_fish> nope, I don';t know what its actually done, or how to go back on it (because I have never used it, it just seems a silly thing to use when you can just get what you want yourself)
[10:55] <Huibert> Zehrila: must have been 1997 or something
[10:55] <Huibert> We used to write the ppd-up down chat script by hand in vi :-)
[10:55] <frying_fish> simon1992: it may be worth looking into getting the correct kernel.
[10:56] <Zehrila> Old times, eh?
[10:56] <Terminus> MarkoKaa: i don't actually know how to use mod_rewrite. i just know that you use it to rewrite urls. =D
[10:56] <Zehrila> BTW does Gnome offer some program like kppp for dial-up connections?
[10:56] <Huibert> Zehrila: yes, I was still young back then :-(
[10:56] <frying_fish> what I want to know is why use these "automatix" or "easyubuntu" scripts, when you can just search for applications in synaptic yourself.
[10:56] <Hirvinen> RoC_MM_0w: So I've heard. But I've also heard that it is bad as well. I Strongly suggest reading appropriate parts of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation
[10:56] <MarkoKaa> Terminus: Oh, I understand :)
[10:56] <frying_fish> (if not comfortable wit hthe command line)
[10:56] <jimboedgynoob> Zehrila: good luck! Or try and get a cheap Linux-compatible wireless device you can afford
[10:56] <tanlaan> Hello everyone
[10:57] <RoC_MM_0w> Hirvinen: the documentation mentions automatix and has install steps!
[10:57] <Terminus> MarkoKaa: was just suggesting what to use. =)
[10:57] <MarkoKaa> Terminus: Ok, thx ;)
[10:57] <gael> i said Trem ...
[10:57] <Terminus> MarkoKaa: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_rewrite.html if you want to read about it.
[10:58] <Zehrila> jimboedgynoob: My wireless device is gnu-compatible. The issue is, I don't have a wireless network here.
[10:58] <tanlaan> i have found a very interesting article on Linux. Its basically a comparison between Mac OS X applications and Linux applications. The article is at http://www.icefox.net/articles/kdeosx.php
[10:58] <tuna-fish-> Dumb question: when I boot up the computer it is possible to select "recovery mode" in which the computer logs in as root without the need for password. How can I make it so one needs a pw to do that?
[10:58] <simon1992> frying fish they showed it on giga so I used it BTW with that program you download the codecs and the graphics driver aswell
[10:58] <tanlaan> if anyone wants to talk about it, message me
[10:58] <jimboedgynoob> haha the Automatix page says "don't listen to the bad press you get on the ubuntu irc chat"  haha
[10:59] <frying_fish> simon1992: you can get all that direct from synaptic anyway
[10:59] <Zehrila> So does any of you know of some Gnome alternative for KDE's kppp?
[10:59] <frying_fish> and for "codecs" you can just install vlc
[10:59] <frying_fish> vlc will play 99.5% of video media.
[10:59] <simon1992> frying fish next time^^
[10:59] <xipietotec> jimboedgynoob: it also says #ubuntu ops kill puppies
[10:59] <Zehrila> Or the way to connect using dialup, from console with a non-GUI installation?
[10:59] <Huibert> jimboedgynoob: automatix will break your box in the long run, happened once will happen again.
[10:59] <Huibert> Until the automatix people start writing upgrade scripts for the new ubuntu releases
[11:00] <simon1992> frying fish i will install it from the synaptic
[11:00] <frying_fish> without the need for getting the w32 codecs. LRM contains your graphics drivers, a little bit of searching and you will learn this.
[11:00] <tanlaan> Oh, also i wanna talk to some hardcore linux fans/enthusiasts about why linux hasnt gone the way of OS X
[11:00] <DBO> xipietotec, mmmm puppy dog burgers...
[11:00] <frying_fish> automatix also changes things but it doesn't keep logs of it somewhere so going back and undoing it is quite difficult.
[11:00] <Huibert> Zehrila: use kppp in gnome
[11:00] <boink> but linux is open source, OS X isn't
[11:00] <xipietotec> tanlaan: way of OS X how?
[11:01] <simon1992> just fixing i would like to have the 2nd core
[11:01] <boink> and anyway, that belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:01] <jimboedgynoob> Hey xipie and Huibert I have broken so many Linux boxes (all my own) through sheer stupidity and noobness I have lost count 8-)
[11:01] <xipietotec> and don't bring out darwin as being open source.....because no one uses it =P
[11:01] <Huibert> tanlaan: it might be because linux is not going "anywhere" it's going _everywhere_
[11:01] <Zehrila> Huibert: That I can do after I install KDE, for which I need to go online, heh.
[11:01] <frying_fish> simon1992: check what kernel its running and make sure it is the correct version for your processor.
[11:01] <tanlaan> xipietotec: bringing all core applications togethor, and making UI's that use only things used most often and trying not to clutter the screen
[11:01] <gael> Roc: trem
[11:02] <gael> player ?
[11:02] <dv5237> whats a easy to use p2p way for ubuntu? (i already use torrents)
[11:02] <frying_fish> Zehrila: google not got advice for it?
[11:02] <frying_fish> dv5237: there is a torrent client by default, and you can install azureus from apt
[11:02] <simon1992> frying fish it "had" worked but now i doesnt
[11:02] <defrysk> dv5237, nicotine (soulseek clone)
[11:02] <Huibert> Zehrila: oh yes, not being online is a difficult concept to grasp for me
[11:02] <frying_fish> probably because your kernel got changed by automatix.
[11:02] <iami89> how do i install driver for my NVIDIA card {geforce 4 mx 440}?
[11:02] <Zehrila> Google certainly is a man's best friend.
[11:02] <Zehrila> Lemme see...
[11:02] <boink> !nvidia
[11:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:02] <Huibert> !nvidia
[11:02] <defrysk> dv5237, for a native torrentclient in linux try ktorrent
[11:02] <frying_fish> Zehrila: you seem to have a net connection now, so see what google says.
[11:03] <dv5237> defrysk: is that also for movies?
[11:03] <frying_fish> there is a torrent client built into gnome with ubuntu!
[11:03] <boink> !tell iami89 about nvidia
[11:03] <tanlaan> xipietotec: oh yea, check out the article i posted before http://www.icefox.net/articles/kdeosx.php
[11:03] <dv5237> defrysk: nicotine i mean
[11:03] <defrysk> dv5237, nicotine you mean ?
[11:03] <frying_fish> no need for anything extra, although again you can get azureus
[11:03] <dv5237> defrysk: yeah
[11:03] <defrysk> yes , mostly music but also movies
[11:03] <simon1992> frying fish if i install the default kernel will everything be all right? or does something change with the programs i use?
[11:04] <frying_fish> won't change your programs
[11:04] <defrysk> !p2p | dv5237
[11:04] <ubotu> dv5237: Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[11:04] <Taylor> Hello, How do I change my gdm login theme?
[11:04] <simon1992> frying fish where can i install the kernel? I think it'S difficult
[11:04] <Huibert> Taylor: administration->loginscreen
[11:04] <defrysk> Taylor, sudo gdmsetup
[11:05] <Taylor> OK thanks I meant by the source I downloaded
[11:05] <xipietotec> tanlaan: certain distros...and with certain amounts of customization allow you to do alot of that
[11:06] <jimboedgynoob> It saddens me that by running Linux I have to break the law by trying to play a DVD. It would be great to pay an amount to someone and then be able to do what you want, instead of being tied to Windows or OSX
[11:06] <tanlaan> xipietotec: Yes, but shouldnt this be a consideration for ALL linux distros?
[11:06] <xipietotec> gnome has drag and drop (I think KDE does too...but I'm not sure) for alot of stuff, simplified menus etc. KDE is overcluttered, and KDE 4.0 is designed to eliminate some of that.
[11:06] <Taylor> do I unzip the download?
[11:06] <xipietotec> tanlaan: No. different distros have different goals.
[11:06] <frying_fish> simon1992: select linux-image-generic (assuming your using edgy eft) from synaptic
[11:06] <frying_fish> an d it will get the rest it needs
[11:07] <frying_fish> then, reboot and make sure at grub (the boot loader) you select the generic one.
[11:07] <frying_fish>  or whatever you need
[11:07] <frying_fish> I have tgo leave
[11:07] <tanlaan> xipietotec: well shouldnt this be a central goal most common distros? To make easier to use and easier to understand.
[11:07] <compengi> anyone here works on froswire?
[11:07] <RoC_MM_0w> jimboedgynoob: this can be fixed by fixing the law.
[11:07] <compengi> frostwire*
[11:07] <defrysk> Taylor, in gdmsetup you can click add and then select the acrcived theme
[11:08] <elkbuntu> tanlaan, some people really truely do not like simplicity
[11:08] <defrysk> no need to unpack it
[11:08] <Sybux> Can some1 explain me how to create aliases with postfix
[11:08] <Taylor> I've found out myself
[11:08] <defrysk> good ;)
[11:08] <tanlaan> hahaha
[11:08] <Taylor> now how do I change my splash screen?
[11:09] <elkbuntu> FirstStrike, what was the point of that?
[11:09] <FirstStrike> To display you in my window, obviously.
[11:09] <xipietotec> tanlaan: different people have different ideas of what "useability" is, basically. and Linux does not "force" you to do anything one way.
[11:10] <RoC_MM_0w> or rather
[11:10] <nothlit> jimboedgynoob, not all distros do you break the law if you want to run something like linspire (rofl) then you rightfully pay for the use of the codecs and whatnot
[11:10] <xipietotec> take for instance the different UI philosophies behind Gnome and KDE
[11:10] <RoC_MM_0w> there are so many linuxes that you will never be forced to do things any one way
[11:10] <nothlit> or freespire
[11:10] <boink> FreeBSD has the codecs, no problem
[11:10] <boink> installing the codecs is easy in ubuntu, you just need to adjust the sources.list
[11:10] <jimboedgynoob> nothlit that is a good point - pay for the rights at distribution. Will it work?
[11:11] <boink> no, it won't work. free isfree
[11:11] <compengi> anyone here uses frostwire? i have a problem in running it
[11:11] <tanlaan> xipietotec: personally I see very little difference between KDE and Gnome
[11:12] <tanlaan> *idiot* http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=464540691509009245&q=linux&hl=en
[11:12] <gaviin> what does "su - root" do?
[11:12] <tanlaan> *this guy is an idiot
[11:12] <boink> gaviin: you just need to type "su"
[11:12] <boink> that gives you a root shell
[11:12] <xipietotec> tanlaan: Erm....there's alot of difference, one KDE attempts to integrate everything through konqueror, kde has alot more customization options than gnome (but gnome does some customization more intuitively) KDE comes with a gigantic load of applications
[11:12] <gaviin> ok, so its the same thing as sudo?
[11:12] <boink> yes
[11:12] <gaviin> k, thanks.
[11:13] <xipietotec> KDE's "Start bar" is more integrated (it's much better than the nautilus bar)
[11:13] <dv5237> hm when using xmule i get losing connection when i try to join a hub anyone a idea?
[11:13] <Taylor> How do I change my splash screen?
[11:13] <jimboedgynoob> boink: I'm trying to wean myself off proprietry codecs. Doesn't seem to work - the net is full of it
[11:14] <defrysk> xipietotec, matter of opinion take comments like that to ot
[11:15] <jimboedgynoob> Linus prefers kde (or so I read)
[11:15] <defrysk> jimboedgynoob, off-topic
[11:16] <jimboedgynoob> sorry
[11:16] <tanlaan> xipietotec: to me, the differences didnt change usability at all
[11:16] <Taylor> so no one here knows how to change the splash screen?
[11:16] <defrysk> !patience | Taylor
[11:16] <ubotu> Taylor: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:16] <xipietotec> KDE's biggest problems (for me) are: a.) When you want to change something you have 2000 options displayed for you....rather than moving the most common options to the front and putting advanced functions behind an "advanced" window....and b.) it looks too much like windows
[11:16] <Huibert> Taylor: tried google, it's not that hard
[11:16] <DARKGuy> Okay, I've been trying this stuff for days and I haven't been able to set up apache or anything that can serve a webpage on my home computer. Can somebody guide me for installing any webserver on my PC and that it's able to be seen from the outside?
[11:17] <tanlaan> xipietotec: well with those as problems, i see where your coming from
[11:17] <Taylor> I've been patience ;)
[11:17] <compengi> anyone here uses frostwire? i have a problem in running it
[11:17] <defrysk> Taylor, sudo apt-get install gtweakui
[11:18] <defrysk> Taylor, might help you out
[11:18] <tanlaan> Taylor: *patient
[11:18] <Taylor> ok i'll try that, thanks :D
[11:18] <defrysk> morning Seveas
[11:19] <defrysk> Good morning even
[11:19] <xipietotec> tanlaan: ergo, even though I think kde comes with a better application suite than gnome, I use gnome as my window manager.
[11:19] <Huibert> Taylor: try http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=470  it was only 2 Clicks away from google
[11:19] <iami89> how do i install plugin for media player in UBUNTU to play mp3 wmv mp4...?
[11:19] <Huibert> !mp3
[11:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:19] <tanlaan> xipietotec: Well do you know any linux distros that use the same thinking style as OS X?
[11:19] <antonio_> ciao a tutti
[11:19] <Taylor> To tell you the truth, i suck at my search words
[11:19] <jimboedgynoob> Does kde take less RAM than gnome or is it my imagination? It seems to be quiker
[11:20] <Huibert> Taylor: obiously.... I searched: "ubuntu change grub splahsscreen"
[11:20] <tanlaan> jimboedgynoob: yea it does take less RAM
[11:20] <Taylor> Huibert: I meant the ubuntu splash, not grub
[11:20] <jimboedgynoob> thanks tanlaan
[11:20] <antonio_> sono nuovo vorrei sapere se mi vedete, ciao
[11:21] <Huibert> Taylor: ahhh, there are so many splashscreens these days
[11:21] <defrysk> !it | antonio_
[11:21] <ubotu> antonio_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:22] <antonio_> ok tank you
[11:22] <g8y> Hi all, can anyone explain to me, why Ubuntu slows down to a crawl when I am copying files from USB-disks- an externalized hard-disk actually. Same thing with CDs. About 1800Mhz-intel pentium with 256MB- is that too slow?
[11:23] <RoC_MM_0w> no
[11:24] <jimboedgynoob> g8y - I have a similar system - I have a 256MB 1400Mhz - will plug in a USB stick - be right back
[11:24] <xipietotec> tanlaan: well, gnome shares some of the same goals, it does them in a slightly different way though.
[11:24] <RoC_MM_0w> g8y: it would also help if you said which release of Ubuntu you are using and if you've made any special changes.
[11:24] <g8y> RoC_MM_0w: I do wonder, whats the problem then. I've installed KDE too. and mostly on gnome, i've opened several pdfs, gphpedit (about 3 at most) and then there's amarok.
[11:24] <johan_> I have just successfully installed a SSL certificate on my intranet Apache server. How do I disable normal traffic ?? (I only wanna allow traffic through SSL)
[11:26] <Sybux> how can I create aliases for postfix ?
[11:26] <g0tw00d> does Ubuntu support SATA HD's and SATA ROM's?
[11:26] <g8y> no- nothing special- 6.06- I did upgrade the kernel- from the one it came with to the newest one- oh- and installed it fresh from a kubuntu CD- the ubuntu cd i downloaded was corrupt.
[11:26] <jimboedgynoob> g8y no problems here copying off USB stick and Ubuntu - no sluggish crawl
[11:27] <frogzoo> g0tw00d: yes & yes
[11:27] <RoC_MM_0w> g8y: a good question is did it do this before your kernel upgrade (if your kernel upgrade was a manual one)?
[11:27] <xipietotec> however...most distros tend to try and mimic alot of windows functions if you ask me. But beryl mimics certain things that OS X tiger does
[11:27] <g0tw00d> frogzoo: do I have to do something special?
[11:27] <frogzoo> g0tw00d: nope
[11:28] <g0tw00d> i keep getting errors on sr0
[11:28] <g0tw00d> it wont even boot it
[11:28] <kaptengu> is there any way I can import microsoft fonts to gnome, like you can do i KDE?
[11:28] <frogzoo> g0tw00d: the cd's ok is it?
[11:29] <xipietotec> kaptengu: Yes....but I don't remember how, it's listed in gnomelook
[11:29] <frogzoo> !fonts | kaptengu
[11:29] <ubotu> kaptengu: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[11:29] <g0tw00d> frogzoo: i just used it yesterday for install
[11:29] <josh_> hey all... i have sound problems again
[11:29] <g0tw00d> looks ok
[11:29] <josh_> it worked 2 days ago
[11:29] <g8y> RoC_MM_0w: Most probably yes. I think the kernel did it but I am not altogether sure. if by manual, you are asking me whether I compiled my own, no. I just picked out the upgrade from synaptic.
[11:29] <kaptengu> thanks
[11:29] <g0tw00d> its a red disk .....
[11:29] <josh_> no settings have changed... sound just doesn't work
[11:29] <g0tw00d> are to see but not scratch that I can tell
[11:29] <g8y> heh. i remember someone telling me this earlier- synaptic is not a candy-store to pick off what ever you think you like.
[11:29] <g0tw00d> i thought about reloading it
[11:29] <g0tw00d> i mean reburning
[11:29] <josh_> card is new, ive changed between all the different sound engines... nothing
[11:29] <g0tw00d> ....lol
[11:29] <g0tw00d> long night
[11:29] <tanlaan> xipietotec: hmm ill check it out
[11:30] <compengi> anyone here uses frostwire? i have a problem in running it
[11:30] <xipietotec> tanlaan: beryl can do expose, and handles windows in similar ways, gnome deskbar-applet is like spotlight
[11:30] <g0tw00d> frogzoo: should I try reburning?
[11:31] <xipietotec> my desktop is very very minimalist
[11:32] <josh_> what is the directory for the soundcards?\
[11:32] <josh_> /dev/asound/soundcard?
[11:32] <RoC_MM_0w> g8y: pick whatever you'd like from the package system.
[11:33] <RoC_MM_0w> g0tw00d: try the "check cd for defects" option at livecd boot
[11:33] <frogzoo> g0tw00d: you could try reburning but at 50% of max speed
[11:33] <xipietotec> gdesklets are analogous to dashboard too
[11:33] <g0tw00d> ok ty.....never saw it
[11:33] <RoC_MM_0w> 8x! 8x! 8x1
[11:33] <xipietotec> although....admittedly, dashboard has a much wider collection of apps....and many of them are much better.
[11:34] <crimsun> josh_: for what?
[11:36] <simon-new> is here a admin? can he please unban me from ubuntu-de?
[11:36] <compengi> anyone here uses frostwire? i have a problem in running it
[11:36] <DBO> simon-new, please join #ubuntu-ops
[11:36] <g8y> simon-new: what did you do there? :P
[11:37] <simon-new> g8y nothing thats the matter
[11:37] <compengi> hey DBO
[11:37] <DBO> hi compengi
[11:37] <compengi> how's doing?
[11:37] <DBO> simon-new, if you join #ubuntu-ops please I will see that the matter is taken care of
[11:37] <tanlaan> xipietotec: beryl looks pretty cool
[11:38] <tanlaan> xipietotec: also looks very hard to install
[11:38] <RoC_MM_0w> tanlaan: for now.
[11:38] <simon-new> DBO i'm in
[11:38] <xipietotec> tanlaan: Depends....if you have intel graphics card its very easy
[11:38] <RoC_MM_0w> tanlaan: it's also not particularly hard, you just have to be able to follow 12 steps or what have you...it is all very detailed.
[11:39] <xipietotec> If you have NVIDIA, also pretty easy....if you have ATI....errr....well...yeah...um...about that....
[11:39] <DBO> simon-new, i dont see you in there
[11:39] <tanlaan> xipietotec: Oh, so have you read that article? "Nine things KDE should learn from Mac OS X"
[11:39] <simon-new> sry do i join in ubutnu-ops
[11:39] <tanlaan> RoC_MM_0w: atm i wouldnt be able to install it *faulty graphics card*
[11:40] <xipietotec> tanlaan: yes, and I think there's a simple philosophical difference between KDE and OSX
[11:41] <xipietotec> KDE is everything and the kitchen sink
[11:41] <xipietotec> with a department of redundancy department thrown in
[11:41] <RoC_MM_0w> lots of stuff on right click menu
[11:41] <xipietotec> KDE does in fact have a common viewing application....it just also has 3-4 other viewers...."just in case"
[11:41] <tanlaan> xipietotec: Well go check out the difference between the two applications that open up the program "foo"
[11:42] <mc44> xipietotec: OSX is the hideous off spring of KDE mating with Gnome :)
[11:42] <tanlaan> mc44: hahaha
[11:42] <concept10> mc44, you have that backwards
[11:43] <xipietotec> tanlaan: Yeah....there's alot of IDE's that I don't like, but KDevelop is agian back to the above "Everything and the kitchen sink" approach
[11:43] <tanlaan> xipietotec: as it is, everything that OS X is bringing to the table, I expect linux to be up to par with
[11:44] <iami89> how to exit X-server
[11:44] <tanlaan> xipietotec: And at the moment it seems like linux is lacking just a bit
[11:44] <Spee_Der> simon-new: You were asked to join /#ubuntu-ops for assistance.
[11:44] <DBO> he has
[11:44] <Spee_Der> Ok, good morning DBO
[11:45] <DBO> morning Spee_Der =)
[11:45] <tanlaan> whats worse than 12 dead babies found in a dumpster?
[11:45] <Spee_Der> tanlaan: What's does that have to do with Ubuntu please ?
[11:45] <iami89> hhow do i exit X-server{for install NVIDIA driver}
[11:45] <xipietotec> tanlaan: OSX has one single view essentially of "What makes a good GUI" linux has *thousands* of views, ergo it is generally possible to find something that has a preferable GUI
[11:46] <tanlaan> Spee_Der: sorry i just remembered that joke *popped into my head*
[11:46] <nothlit> HIG <--
[11:46] <Spee_Der> !nvidia | iami89
[11:46] <ubotu> iami89: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:46] <RoC_MM_0w> tanlaan: 13 dead ones!
[11:46] <tanlaan> xipietotec: hmm, i guess i need to find my programs
[11:46] <tanlaan> RoC_MM_0w: 1 dead baby in 12 dumpsters
[11:46] <YoussefAssad> listen, where is the python-slang package in ubuntu?
[11:46] <Eons> uhm. xchat is behaving in a strange manner. it tried to send messages 5 hours ago [hopefully i didn't identify with ns] . how is this possible?
[11:47] <Taylor> is ubuntu gtk 1.x or gtk 2.x?
[11:47] <nothlit> Gnome2 runs gtk2 apps
[11:47] <tanlaan> xipietotec: there is a problem with me finding just the right GUI application
[11:48] <xipietotec> there's also the fact that there's dozens and dozens of window managers for linux as well: Fluxbox, enlightenment, KDE, gnome, xfce, beryl, compiz, etc.
[11:48] <tanlaan> xipietotec: I also want integration between them
[11:48] <mc44> tanlaan: please keep jokes of... questionable taste to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:48] <Taylor> ok thanks for telling me
[11:48] <nothlit> xipietotec, I like that choice
[11:48] <heiko> has anyone seen a wlan problem where iwconfig looks ok (AP mac is displayed, wep is set up ok) but no data can be transmitted (e.g. dhcp doesn't get through)?
[11:48] <tanlaan> mc44: will do :D
[11:48] <mc44> tanlaan: and the correct punchline is one live one eating its way out
[11:48] <xipietotec> tanlaan: KDE actually is built with integration in mind, kparts allows easy integration between applications
[11:48] <Huibert> heiko: I had that once, because I couldn't get wep/wpa to run
[11:49] <nothlit> xipietotec, people wouldn't have their fancy beryl to show off without that choice, and you wouldn't be able to run linux on legacy hardware without lightweight wms
[11:49] <xipietotec> they just...need to refine their vision a bit if you ask me
[11:49] <heiko> Huibert: so you saw the AP mac in iwconfig? did you solve that problem?
[11:49] <bXi> yo
[11:49] <Huibert> heiko: I only used some commandline comamnds.
[11:49] <xipietotec> Basically, for my home computer I use gnome, but if I had a business I'd set up the business comps using KDE.
[11:50] <Huibert> heiko: didn't get it to run, switched off encryption at the router, rpoblem solved :-)
[11:50] <heiko> Huibert: anything besides the usual ifconfig/iwconfnig
[11:50] <tanlaan> mc44: wrong joke there btw, thats "whats worse than a pile of dead babies"
[11:50] <nothlit> xipietotec, why wouldn't you do it the other way around?
[11:50] <heiko> oh
[11:50] <Spee_Der> ted
[11:50] <heiko> i guess i should try that
[11:50] <xipietotec> nothlit: I'm not knocking the variety =) I'm explaining that the variety is what makes linux different than OSX.
[11:50] <nothlit> xipietotec, less options in both applications/configuration confuses non techies
[11:50] <nothlit> err more options confuses*
[11:51] <bXi> i tried to update dapper 64bit to edgy
[11:51] <Huibert> heiko: you should be aware off you wlan enviroment, and at least use an MAC filter at the router.
[11:51] <tanlaan> nothlit: who said i was a non techie? :P
[11:51] <Spee_Der> !ted
[11:51] <ubotu> ted: graphical RTF (Rich Text Format) editor, stable lesstif version. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.17-1 (edgy), package size 654 kB, installed size 1732 kB
[11:51] <tanlaan> *""
[11:51] <Spee_Der> hmmm
[11:51] <heiko> Huibert: i understand security ... just don't understand why wlan (or wep?) seems to become gradually more broken with newer versions of ubuntu
[11:51] <nothlit> tanlaan, oh i was just reading what xipietotec said, and I was referring to business people as non -techies
[11:51] <xipietotec> nothlit: KDE's interface bugs me, looks too much like windows, and while it has several applications I like, it also has application overload, it's also overly complex to configure (.e.g., window customization etc.), but the application suites and the fact it looks like windows makes it easier for business integration
[11:52] <tanlaan> nothlit: ahh hahaha
[11:52] <xipietotec> plus there's the fact that KDE is built with a little more eye toward the corporate user.
[11:52] <Spee_Der> Is anyone here Opera smart ?
[11:52] <dyland> hi
[11:52] <tanlaan> xipietotec: are there any inegration applications for Gnome?
[11:52] <nothlit> xipietotec, you can modify gnome-panel, and theres gcontol and gnome-control-(center)
[11:53] <nothlit> Spee_Der, i use opera
[11:53] <bXi> but now i still have 41 packages that are kept back
[11:53] <xipietotec> nothlit: I'm well aware (I have a severely modified gnome).
[11:53] <bXi> how do i get those packages
[11:53] <dyland> ubuntu supports intel core 2 duo?
[11:53] <nothlit> xipietotec, also, sabayon and pessulus make it easier for business now
[11:53] <Spee_Der> Using the IRC built into Opera, I'd like to change the main screen color from blasting white to something a bit paler, like maybe cream color ? How to do this please as I can't find the correct options (anywhere).
[11:53] <nothlit> lol you're using irc built into opera?
[11:53] <nothlit> lemme check
[11:54] <Spee_Der> Yes. It is working just great  too.....
[11:54] <nothlit> btw theres a hidden config place in opera with the new version  address bar opera:config
[11:54] <xipietotec> tanlaan: the best analogy is probably to imagine Gnome as a monolithic application (it tries to make everything integrated as a single big piece) while KDE is micro-kernel-application (.e.g, it's easier to integrate other things, because its made up of millions of little pieces)
[11:55] <Spee_Der> Hmmm, will look into that also. Thanks. I usually go there first with any browser....
[11:55] <tanlaan> xipietotec: hmm
[11:55] <Spee_Der> I'm using build 9, version 344 btw
[11:55] <xipietotec> long term I think KDE has a big advantage over gnome: kparts + (unfortunately) it looks and in some respects behaves like windows users would expect.
[11:56] <nothlit> Spee_Der, http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/operaStyles/ http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/operaStyles/extraChatStyles.html
[11:56] <Spee_Der> nothlit: Many thanks....
[11:56] <xipietotec> while gnome is actually much better for setting up grandma with a new computer, because its stupidly easy to do everything.
[11:56] <dyland> I cant install ubuntu, i bought a computer with core 2 duo and a sata hardisck
[11:57] <bXi> how do i get my packages that are kept back
[11:57] <Spee_Der> nothlit: Ohhh, very nice indeed, thank you so much.....  bbiab.
[11:57] <tanlaan> xipietotec: haha ok
[11:57] <xipietotec> however, by being so....many options for customization just aren't there, compared to kde.
[11:57] <nothlit> Spee_Der, :)
[11:57] <Tominator> oh nothlit, thanks again, the installation of the old driver worked fine ;)
[11:57] <nothlit> bXi, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:57] <xipietotec> basically I'd like to fork KDE and create knome.
[11:57] <Xteven> hi, does anyone know if there is any work being done on compiling third party kernel modules ? because the current method seems pretty elaborate
[11:57] <Locutu5> Is anyone able to tell me why chown waits for around five minutes when using a numeric id but works instantly using a name id. This happened after installing smbldap
[11:58] <nothlit> Tominator, oh you got it working? Thats great :D!
[11:58] <ooswoosh> a
[11:58] <g0tw00d> why does usb mouse on ubuntu seem to lock up ever 15 minutes?
[11:58] <xipietotec> which would be a gnome like GUI with a vastly scaled down app database from KDE and integration way of kparts.
[11:58] <g0tw00d> i have to unplug and plugin to get it to work again
[11:58] <tanlaan> xipietotec: So basically, if I were to attempt to do things the way I want...I would want to get KDE and find the versions of the main programs I want, then customize my system to use those specific programs and try to integrate them together?
[11:58] <nothlit> Tominator, btw amaranth has a new repo for the nvidia 9 drivers, although i suspect you won't want to touch your drivers at all for a long while
[11:59] <nothlit> xipietotec, whats wrong with kdebase + install one by one then?
[11:59] <Locutu5> who here has experience with smbldap?
[11:59] <nolimitsoya> tanlaan, im not sure what you are aming for, but you could do a cli install, and apt-get the little bits of software you need :)
[11:59] <xipietotec> tanlaan: the KDE apps are likely to be integrated allready, if they come with the kde suite, if you're a programmer you can write or integrate custom applications and integrate them better because of kparts
[11:59] <tanlaan> nolimitsoya: cli?
[12:00] <nolimitsoya> command line interface
[12:00] <tanlaan> ahh
[12:00] <Tominator> nothlit, before I do that, I have to know if AIGLX works with these new drivers ^^ AND if AIGLX works less buggy than XGL
[12:00] <Tominator> ^^
[12:00] <nothlit> kubuntu does gtk integratoin pretty well
[12:00] <nolimitsoya> xipietotec, you could just apt-get kde-core, and then the sortware you realy want
[12:01] <xipietotec> nothlit: I'm talking about just creating a light weight version of KDE with certain aspects of gnome (like easy drag and drop installation of themes, wallpapers, etc, most common customization options being default, with all the advanced ones that KDE has being thrown under advanced tabs).
[12:01] <nothlit> Tominator, I got beryl working with the 1.0-9 drivers fine, I don't know about less buggy but its pretty stable and much much faster than xgl
[12:01] <tanlaan> Bah, I hate how OS X got around the rules of open source
[12:01] <nothlit> Tominator, also, beryl contacts the nvidia card directly, no aiglx :)
[12:01] <Tominator> nothlit, are there good howtos on the ubuntu-wiki?
[12:01] <nolimitsoya> tanlaan, they didnt. they use a dsb license
[12:01] <Tominator> nothlit, since when?
[12:01] <Tominator> ^^
[12:01] <nolimitsoya> *bsd
[12:01] <nothlit> Tominator, I think so, or you can use beryl-project.org
[12:02] <nothlit> Tominator, since before edgy came out
[12:02] <xipietotec> tanlaan: they use a bsd liscense, essentially OSX is Darwin (A custom BSD) + OSX architecture.
[12:02] <Tominator> nothlit, but why do the title-bars disappear when i run beryl-manager?
[12:02] <nothlit> Tominator, I fooled around the nvidia + beryl (no aiglx needed :)) in edgy beta
[12:02] <xipietotec> only the OSX architecture is closed source.
[12:02] <tanlaan> xipietotec: I know
[12:02] <tanlaan> xipietotec: thats what I meant
[12:02] <nothlit> Tominator, that means emerald isn't working properly
[12:03] <nolimitsoya> tanlaan, thats not getting around anything. thats the whole point with the bsd license :P
[12:03] <Tominator> nothlit, do you know how to fix this?
[12:03] <Riddell> xipietotec: sounds like you want to work on improving kde itself
[12:03] <nolimitsoya> ... as opposed to, say, gpl
[12:03] <nolimitsoya> :)
[12:03] <nothlit> Tominator, emerald is the window decorator , beryl is the window manager
[12:03] <tanlaan> nolimitsoya: But OS X did little to change Darwin
[12:03] <Tominator> nothlit, yeah, now i know ;)
[12:03] <user-land> Hello, is there an easy way to install a local DNS cache for faster browsing ?
[12:03] <nothlit> Tominator, i would suggest running beryl/beryl-manager from the terminal and check/google the errors
[12:03] <tanlaan> nolimitsoya: they just built their architecture on top of it
[12:04] <dyland> ubuntu works with intel core 2 duo???
[12:04] <nolimitsoya> tanlaan, that is, still, the entire point of the bsd license.
[12:04] <nothlit> Tominator, I use screen, but you could probably do it from the virtual console and specify a display
[12:04] <xipietotec> Riddell: Pretty much, I'm thinking of a "lighter weight" KDE, suitable for home users.
[12:04] <nothlit> dyland, it should work with the generic kernel
[12:04] <Tominator> nothlit, kay... but, what version of nvidia-drivers do i need?
[12:04] <nothlit> Tominator, you need 1.0-9629
[12:05] <nolimitsoya> xipietotec, thats what kde-core if for. then you just do all the configurations you want, roll it up and call it xipietotux :)
[12:05] <nothlit> anything lower doesn't have the compositing features needed
[12:05] <nothlit> !nvidia
[12:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:05] <nothlit> !Amaranth
[12:05] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9629 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://seerofsouls.com/ edgy contrib" (for x86) (key at http://seerofsouls.com/ubuntu.html) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[12:05] <nothlit> there tominator ^
[12:05] <xipietotec> nolimitsoya: I know I know =P but there's some portions of the KDE gui I don't like either.
[12:05] <compengi> anyone here uses frostwire? i have a problem in running it
[12:05] <xipietotec> not just the apps.
[12:05] <Tominator> nothlit, errmm.. not good... I was unable to do fullscreenmode and to run wine with this driver ;)
[12:05] <tanlaan> nolimitsoya: well my thoughts on the license are that, because the architecture cannot be use without the kernel it should be under the same license
[12:05] <nolimitsoya> xipietotec, all that can be customiced
[12:06] <Tominator> and the newer beta won't install
[12:06] <nolimitsoya> tanlaan, then you havnt read the sam license i did :)
[12:06] <nothlit> Tominator, lol then you have to build it yourself or fix your error messages or give up
[12:06] <nothlit> Tominator, you could always just wait around a bit
[12:07] <Tominator> nothlit, build myself? but how? i used this .run file from the nvidia page ^^
[12:07] <xipietotec> Yeah....but I'm not up to the amount of customization and integration it would require. (I'd want to integrate the hell out of everything.)
[12:07] <nothlit> TomB|, yeah the nvidia installer is what i meant
[12:07] <user-land> How can i see what DNS server my Ubuntu is using ?
[12:08] <nolimitsoya> xipietotec, integrate as in... what? things dont get much more integrated than metapackages with linux :)
[12:08] <nothlit> xipietotec, what you want sounds like it would take an incredible amount of hacking or starting from scratch
[12:08] <Spee_Der> hmmm
[12:08] <nothlit> nolimitsoya, it sounds like he wants a perfectly integrated customised fusion of his best of kde and gnome
[12:08] <nothlit> xipietotec, correct me if i'm wrong of course
[12:08] <xipietotec> its kinda sad too though, KDE allready has several good integration features, integrated Konqueror web-browser/file browser wasn't a bad I dea (I think the implementation is annoying)...but its kinda made obsolete because everyone uses FF, thunderbird, insertfavapp here, instead.
[12:09] <nolimitsoya> nothlit, that should be hard, as ive already explained :)
[12:10] <nolimitsoya> its perfectly simple to load both qt and gtk at boot, cutting down loadtimes as well :) itll just cost you an extra ~20mb memory footprint :)
[12:10] <nolimitsoya> tanlaan, :P
[12:10] <nothlit> gtk /qt apps can look pretty integrated with polymer and qtcurve and the gtk qt engines but backend hacking would probably require infrastructure overhauls
[12:10] <tanlaan> *BSD license
[12:10] <xipietotec> And yeah, what I'm describing would actually be a major rewrite of several core kde apps.
[12:11] <nothlit> The bsd license is ideal in theory
[12:11] <xipietotec> of course....KDE 4 may end up being more along the lines of what I want (well...the GUI) since they're getting rid of some things.
[12:11] <nolimitsoya> na, /me likes the "viral" structure of gpl better :D
[12:11] <josh_> sorry to but in, but what does the BSD license offer over the GPL?
[12:11] <nothlit> other than the old addition of the copywrite/development notice thing
[12:11] <nolimitsoya> world dominion for free software :D
[12:11] <tanlaan> nothlit: to be ideal i think it must include that you MUST keep your source open for download *one i read didnt say that*
[12:11] <nolimitsoya> josh_, the option to go closed source at any given time
[12:11] <nothlit> josh_, True free software to do what you wish
[12:12] <Tominator> !amerald
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amerald - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <xipietotec> nothlit: BSD = Do whatever you want. GPL = "Your free do what you want, so long as you make sure others are too."
[12:12] <nothlit> tanlaan, gpl or bsd? gpl requires at least 18 months i think, probably more
[12:12] <Tominator> !Emerald
[12:12] <tanlaan> that would be why i like the GPL better
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Emerald - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <Tominator> !Amaranth
[12:12] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9629 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://seerofsouls.com/ edgy contrib" (for x86) (key at http://seerofsouls.com/ubuntu.html) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[12:13] <tanlaan> nothlit: bsd, but the gpl covers that
[12:13] <josh_> nolimitsoya: thanks.
[12:13] <nothlit> xipietotec, i was just referring to the original bsd license which has a phrase you had to put in every advertisement, that people modified several times
[12:13] <tanlaan> http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php
[12:13] <xipietotec> information is a pure public good, GPL is an inherent recognition of that, and seeks to defend that vs. technical measures to defeat that purpose.
[12:14] <nothlit> tanlaan, lol bsd license means you don't have to release your source code at all
[12:14] <tanlaan> nothlit: I got that :P
[12:14] <tanlaan> nothlit: I just have a GPL kind of mind :P
[12:14] <nothlit> tanlaan, actually you don't have to release your source code off gpl at all if you don't "distribute" it as defined by gnu
[12:15] <ompaul> tanlaan, nothlit, xipietotec can you move the licence discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic please this is strictly a support channel thanks
[12:15] <xipietotec> sorry sorry =)
[12:15] <ompaul> xipietotec, I know I get caught up in that kind of thing :)
[12:16] <g0tw00d> why does usb mouse on ubuntu seem to lock up ever 15 minutes?
[12:16] <g0tw00d> i have to unplug and plugin to get it to work again
[12:17] <Xteven> hi
[12:18] <Xteven> I think there is a bug in the ivtv-source package of edgy
[12:18] <g0tw00d> god damn this is annoying....argh!
[12:18] <ver0niqu3> hi all
[12:19] <Xteven> well, maybe not. it worked the second time
[12:20] <g0tw00d> how do I turn on the sources?
[12:20] <Spee_Der> bbiab, dog wants out. . .
[12:20] <g0tw00d> i know i need to remove the #'s from somewhere
[12:22] <g0tw00d> zzzzZZZZZZzzzzzz
[12:23] <Sybux> how can I create aliases for postfix ?
[12:23] <bimberi> g0tw00d: huh, what, oh, /etc/apt/sources.list .... zzzzzZZZzzzz
[12:24] <bimberi> Sybux: /etc/aliases
[12:24] <Sybux> I've done but it won't works
[12:24] <Spee_Der> back
[12:25] <Spee_Der> There's gott'a be an easier way nothlit.....
[12:26] <josh_> sorry to be a little off-topic, but my installation of dapper keeps failing at 73%. Running a "Check the CD for defects" returns no errors and I experience no error dialogs or information during the installation, it just seems to hang at 73%. I am using a ship-it CD and it is my last copy (gave the rest away), so I am stumped for ideas and may have to download another copy... Any suggestions?
[12:26] <Yasha> I have seen some articles on this in the forum, but is there a patch yet to fix suspend? Hibernate works, but suspending to disk or ram doesn't function.
[12:27] <nothlit> Spee_Der, use a css editor i suppose, or you can google for it. opera's help database has a lot of useful stuff
[12:27] <nothlit> Spee_Der, the opera help forum is pretty nice as well
[12:27] <Spee_Der> Yeh...
[12:27] <Spee_Der> Ok, I'll look there also.....
[12:28] <steigweis> hi
[12:28] <gael_> hi
[12:28] <IndrOp> Bonjour  tous et  toutes
[12:29] <bimberi> Sybux: check what /etc/postfix.main.cf has in it for alias_maps and alias_database
[12:29] <IndrOp> oups
[12:29] <IndrOp> hello all
[12:29] <dyland> hi
[12:31] <DarkED> Hey all, just wanted to tell you guys something
[12:31] <px2> Aloha. I'm trying to set up wyse 50 terminal emulation using edgy. Closest I've found is a wyse 60 emulator. Any ideas?
[12:31] <Zac1> !java
[12:31] <DarkED> when you are helping people, if someone comes in and says that the 'Configuring HAL' part of the setup just locks up
[12:31] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:32] <DarkED> Tell them to pull out any PCMCIA devices and try again
[12:34] <dyland> anyone knows if ubuntu could run with intel core 2 uo?
[12:38] <Alarm> whats the difference between ubumdu and kubundu
[12:38] <Alarm> doesnt ubuntu have kde?
[12:38] <bewd> Hi. I want to run .exe files, what can I do ? I heard about wine but I dont know anything about it.
[12:38] <apokryphos> Alarm: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[12:38] <nolimitsoya> Alarm, ubuntu is gnome and kubuntu is kde
[12:38] <Fortis> Ubuntu has gnome, Kubuntu has KDE
[12:38] <Alarm> okie thank you
[12:39] <Alarm> one more question. in case i will isntall kubuntu, cant i add also gnome on it ?
[12:39] <Zac1> @hamster
[12:39] <nolimitsoya> Alarm, yes
[12:39] <bewd> !wine
[12:39] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:39] <nolimitsoya> Alarm, though, itll be a complete mess :)
[12:39] <ramon> hi all this is prob q noob question but with what command can I see what programs I have running?
[12:39] <apokryphos> Alarm: check the faq
[12:40] <Alarm> and a last question.. does ubuntu  have during the installation the choice of gnome or kde , or for kde i 'must' download kde
[12:40] <Spee_Der> ramon: In a terminal try ps ax
[12:40] <ramon> thanks
[12:40] <Alarm> apokryphos i am not in the mood download a few gb and not to be what i want
[12:40] <bewd> how can i install wine on ubuntu ?
[12:40] <Fortis> Get a free CD then
[12:40] <apokryphos> Alarm: then read the faq please.
[12:40] <apokryphos> bewd: /msg ubotu wine
[12:41] <Spee_Der> bewd: In a terminal window use, 'sudo apt-get install wine'
[12:41] <Spee_Der> Or you could use synaptic
[12:41] <bewd> Spee_Der: ok
[12:41] <Alarm> whats so hard in saying a yes or no at this question, dont get it
[12:41] <Zac1> !apletec
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apletec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <Fortis> Alarm: There's in the installation no choice
[12:41] <Zac1> !synaptic
[12:41] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[12:41] <Alarm> Fortis thanks
[12:42] <Alarm> then kubuntu is what i am looking for
[12:42] <Fortis> Alarm: Good Luck!
[12:42] <wavefunction> Hi. Does anyone know a repository where I can find w32codecs ? I use Edgy (6.10).
[12:42] <Zac1> !bot
[12:42] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:43] <apokryphos> wavefunction: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[12:43] <wavefunction> Also, is there a way to find repositories ?
[12:43] <Zac1> !
[12:44] <Spee_Der> !grrrrr
[12:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grrrrr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <nolimitsoya> wavefunction, google a package you want, and cross your fingers :)
[12:44] <Spee_Der> lol
[12:44] <Zac1> !google
[12:44] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[12:44] <apokryphos> !botabuse
[12:44] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[12:44] <Spee_Der> !bot
[12:44] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:45] <Spee_Der> !repositories
[12:45] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:45] <Alarm> something i am curious about. i see there are 2 different isos. a cd iso and a dvd iso. of course with different image size. does the dvd iso include more or how is it ? cause i dont see like 3-4cd isos but just one
[12:45] <Spee_Der> there ya go wave
[12:45] <wavefunction> apokryphos, Thanks. I'll take a look.
[12:45] <onthos> I have a question about my joystick. Where should I go to get help with this?
[12:46] <wavefunction> nolimitsoya, That's just what I use to do :) I was wandering if there was anything smarter ... :))
[12:46] <pecisk> !nvidia
[12:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:46] <ramon> guys ps ax gives me a cmpleet list if wht is running, but im trying to get a ssh daemon up and running and need to know whet ver im running and how I can edit the cfg. I tried the man and faq but can not find teh answer to y question.
[12:46] <abo> ubuntu is not detecting my digital camera when I plug it ( It's a normal usb connection, Sony Cybershot) can anyone help?
[12:46] <Zac1> !daemon\
[12:46] <ubotu> daemon: turns other processes into daemons. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.3-1 (edgy), package size 97 kB, installed size 300 kB
[12:47] <Zac1> what does parse mean
[12:47] <nolimitsoya> Zac1, http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=o99&q=define%3Aparse&btnG=S%C3%B6k&meta=
[12:47] <Lynoure> Zac1: read, split into pieces and 'understand'
[12:48] <nolimitsoya> 'define:' is a nice google feature :)
[12:48] <Lynoure> dict  is nice
[12:49] <Lynoure> It does not depend on google and is in ubuntu
[12:49] <[^Twen^1> why can't I create any folders within the "file system"-folder?
[12:49] <Zac1> !pci
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <Fortis> Twen: I think you aren't root
[12:50] <Spee_Der> Good morning Lynoure
[12:50] <ramon> how can I see what ver im running ps ax lets me see all programs im running
[12:50] <[^Twen^1> Fortis: what do you mean, now? =P
[12:50] <gnomefreak> ramon: lsb_release -a
[12:50] <Fortis> Twen: You need to be root to do that
[12:50] <ramon> thanks gnomefreak
[12:50] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:51] <Fortis> As non-superuser you only can make folders in your one directory
[12:51] <Fortis> Twen: /home/username/
[12:51] <abo> anyone can help me mount my Digital camera in ubuntu... Daper used to detect it automatically... with edgy I can't see it
[12:52] <ramon> gnomefreak can you also tell me how i can edit my sshd daemon in VI?
[12:52] <[^Twen^1> Fortis: ok? how can I be root, then? Though it is my system.. Im using the ubuntu-server right now to chat the IRC
[12:52] <[^Twen^1> Fortis: ahh, I'll check that out
[12:52] <Fortis> Twen: OK
[12:52] <gnomefreak> ramon: nope sorry cant :(
[12:53] <ramon> np thanks anyway ;)
[12:53] <gnomefreak> ramon: why use vi? use something easy ;)
[12:53] <reverseblade> how can I prevent my users to delete a directory itself, but they should be able to create files within
[12:53] <gnomefreak> brb
[12:53] <reverseblade> gnomefreak, learning vim pays off
[12:53] <ramon> well i have to learn to work with it because we use it at work also ;)
[12:54] <ramon> anyone else who can tell me how to edit my sshd cfg in VI?
[12:54] <reverseblade> ramon, no matter what do not use the cursor keys
[12:54] <nothlit> you could probably set the sticky flag or chmod the dir
[12:54] <Fortis> reverseblad: I don't know exactly how, but you need chmod
[12:54] <[^Twen^1> Fortis: just found the /home/username-folder, but there is nothing in it but a desktop, and a example-folder..
[12:54] <Fortis> Twen: That's fine
[12:54] <reverseblade> ramon, sudo vim /path/to/file
[12:54] <Fortis> Twen: Put your stuff in there
[12:54] <ramon> thanksreversblade I will try that
[12:55] <onthos> Can anyone help me with my joystick?
[12:55] <reverseblade> ramon, type i to get into insert mode, press escape to normal mode , :wq to save and quit , etc
[12:55] <onthos> Er... that sounds dirtier than it really is.
[12:55] <[^Twen^1> Fortis: so I should download all programs and stuff to that folder+
[12:55] <[^Twen^1> ?
[12:55] <ramon> thanks again reversblade
[12:55] <Fortis> Twen: I should do that, yes
[12:57] <[^Twen^1> Fortis: ok, just saw the apache-root-folder was located /var/www    so how can I put files in that one when it's protected?
[12:57] <Fortis> Uhm... via the shell using sudo.. I'm not sure, try that
[12:58] <reverseblade> how can I prevent my users to delete a directory itself, but they should be able to create files within ?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> ramon: my point was learn vim on a file you make not one that is important. vim isnt hard to learn just takes some time to learn the commands
[01:00] <dcordes> !botsnack
[01:00] <ubotu> Yum!
[01:00] <abo> when I do lsusb, I get a list of entries such as "Bus 005 Device 004: ID 054c:0010" , how can I tell which node/device in /dev this usb device can be access, I need to know to try to mount it as vfat
[01:00] <eilker> is /etc/init.d folder consist of files of needing at booting ? i mean all files are needed for booting in /etc/init.d ? or do we have more ?
[01:01] <jikanter> eilker: you need these, as well as a few more..
[01:02] <gnomefreak> make a file that has stupid info in it and edit it with vim that way nothing gets messed up. always learn what the files do and how they do it before editing it just to edit it. if you going to edit a file that is needed and cant be messed up use nano or gedit or whatever until you learn your way around a file and around vim
[01:02] <eilker> jikanter: what are the left? where are the left ?
[01:02] <jikanter> huh?
[01:02] <jikanter> elker: what is the left? you mean the rest of the files you need to boot?
[01:03] <dbe> How do I enter the menu bar in GUI applications (File, View etc...) with a shortcut?
[01:03] <jikanter> dbe: right-click on desktop, add-shortcut to nautilus /usr/bin/nautilus
[01:03] <nolimitsoya> dbe, alt+underlined hotkey
[01:03] <gnomefreak> dbe: what are you trying to do. like lets say you want to open a tab in gnome-terminal you could use shift+ctrl+t
[01:04] <jikanter> dbe: do you mean a click shortcut or a keyboard shortcut?
[01:04] <dbe> jikanter, Keyboard.
[01:04] <jikanter> oh
[01:05] <eilker> jikanter: yes exactly
[01:05] <dbe> nolimitsoya, Shift+_ HOTKEY does not work for me.
[01:05] <dbe> nolimitsoya, RIght, Alt.
[01:05] <dbe> nolimitsoya, Thanks.
[01:06] <jikanter> eilker: well, you need the /etc/rcX.d files for one
[01:06] <nolimitsoya> dbe, does for me. :) (xfce, though...) alt+f gives me file menu in firefox :)
[01:06] <dbe> nolimitsoya, Alt+HOTKEY is fine.
[01:06] <bewd> Spee_Der: and where i install the program ?
[01:06] <jikanter> eilker: meaning rc0.d rc1.d rc2.d etc
[01:06] <nolimitsoya> dbe, good :)
[01:06] <dbe> nolimitsoya, Does it work for you with that?
[01:06] <nolimitsoya> yupp :)
[01:07] <bewd> in what folder i need to install a .exe program (using wine) ?
[01:07] <nolimitsoya> bewd, whereever you want to
[01:07] <eilker> jikanter: thank you
[01:07] <Zac1> bot
[01:07] <Spee_Der> Make a folder with the name of the program.....
[01:07] <bewd> where ?
[01:07] <Spee_Der> That way you know where to find it.
[01:07] <bewd> in my home dir ?
[01:08] <nolimitsoya> bewd, as i said, wherever
[01:08] <jikanter> eilker, there are a few more as well
[01:08] <Spee_Der> bewd: /home/user/program_name
[01:08] <Zac1> How do I get a java interpreter
[01:08] <bewd> Spee_Der: i cant, i can install only in "program files"
[01:08] <eilker> jikanter: i see, i am gonna search
[01:09] <bewd> i think c:\ is my home dir and program files is my name ?
[01:09] <Spee_Der> No.
[01:09] <bimberi> !java | Zac1
[01:09] <ubotu> Zac1: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:09] <Spee_Der> C:\ is your dir yes,
[01:09] <CyberBat> Can anyone help me with sharing?
[01:09] <nolimitsoya> bewd, no, z: is /, and c: is a folder inte .wine in /home
[01:10] <Spee_Der> Program files is a place where programs are stored.
[01:10] <nolimitsoya> *-te
[01:10] <jikanter> CyberBat: what do you mean sharing?
[01:10] <Spee_Der> nolimit has a better grasp on this so I will watch....
[01:10] <jikanter> Do you mean file sharing? Internet connection sharing?
[01:10] <Zac1> ubotu: how do i get a java interpreter
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about how do i get a java interpreter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <bewd> nolimitsoya: so where can i install ? in c:\Program Files\ ?
[01:11] <nolimitsoya> Zac1, apt-cache search <whatever you want> will sort you out
[01:11] <nolimitsoya> bewd, as i said, you can install wherever you want to.
[01:11] <Zac1> !javac
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about javac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <nolimitsoya> !botabuse
[01:11] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[01:12] <Zac1> !botabuse|nolinitsoya
[01:12] <Zac1> gy
[01:12] <Spee_Der> Still no luck changing background color in Opera.....
[01:13] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows how to bind keypad keys in gconf-editor?
[01:13] <Zac1> ubotu
[01:13] <nolimitsoya> Zac1, please
[01:13] <Zac1> nalimiesoya: OKKKKKKKKKKKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
[01:13] <Spee_Der> Zac1: Patience has its limits and you are getting close to the edge my friend.
[01:14] <nolimitsoya> !caps | Zac1
[01:14] <ubotu> Zac1: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:14] <nolimitsoya> !coc | Zac1
[01:14] <CyberBat> jikander: can I query you?
[01:14] <ubotu> Zac1: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:14] <CyberBat> jikanter: can I query you?
[01:14] <Zac1> ok
[01:14] <jikanter> CyberBat: I am not sure what that means
[01:14] <nolimitsoya> ask a question :)
[01:15] <jikanter> go ahead
[01:15] <Zac1> 8-)
[01:15] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows a list of key bindings which can be used in gconf-editor?
[01:15] <Zaggynl> I'm trying to bind keypad substract to a 'run_command'
[01:15] <combo> HI, anybody here who can help me with my WLan config?
[01:15] <nolimitsoya> !wifi | combo
[01:15] <ubotu> combo: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:15] <Zaggynl> !gconf-editor
[01:15] <ubotu> gconf-editor: An editor for the GConf configuration system. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 131 kB, installed size 1684 kB
[01:16] <Zaggynl> :/
[01:16] <nolimitsoya> Zaggynl, try 'man gconf' in a terminal
[01:16] <Zaggynl> I did that a little time ago
[01:16] <nolimitsoya> no luck?
[01:16] <combo> i've already looked up this page and found nothing about my problem, i was already in #ubuntu-de
[01:16] <Zaggynl> gconf-editor it was
[01:16] <Zaggynl> zaggynl@AMD3200L:~$ man gconf No manual entry for gconf
[01:16] <Zaggynl> it's gconf-editor ;-)
[01:16] <nolimitsoya> :)
[01:16] <Spee_Der> Still stuck with the default bright white background in the Opera irc .......
[01:17] <nolimitsoya> anyhow, still no luck?
[01:17] <Zaggynl> if there was just a list for every key on a normal qwerty keyboard
[01:17] <TehDooMCat> Hullo, can anyone help me figure out why my install CDs for ubuntu 6.06 keep kernel panicking after the first bootscreen?
[01:17] <Zac1> !8-)
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 8-) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:17] <Spee_Der> I don't understand the color choice format and am looking for instructions for same.
[01:17] <dcordes> where can i find a list of compatible webcams?
[01:17] <nolimitsoya> Spee_Der, sudo apt-get remove opera lostirc+ firefox+
[01:17] <nolimitsoya> ;)
[01:17] <mseney> TehDooMCat, prob cuz you don't have enough RAM
[01:18] <mseney> TehDooMCat, use the alternate iso image (it's text based installer)
[01:18] <davetherave> hi guys, checked forums but not too helpful.....wanna now the best up to date software for ripping dvd's. Will anything handle arcoss
[01:18] <TehDooMCat> I have 1.5 gigs of RAM :\
[01:18] <TehDooMCat> okay
[01:18] <nolimitsoya> !alternate | TehDooMCat
[01:18] <ubotu> TehDooMCat: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[01:18] <mseney> TehDooMCat, hrmm that's wierd then
[01:18] <Spee_Der> hmmmmmm
[01:19] <combo> I've got a notebook with onboard WLan (Broadcom). After installing the drivers and gnome-network-manager i tried to connect to my AP (WPA) but i still can't connect - it dosn't recieve an actual key
[01:19] <combo> can anybody help me?
[01:19] <nolimitsoya> combo, broadcom are evil. give up, or youll face mental illness :)
[01:19] <mseney> TehDooMCat, i prefer the alternate over the gui install. even on a pentium 4 3.0Ghz that gui install seemed boggy cuz of running from live
[01:19] <combo> i know :) but i can't afford a new one^^
[01:20] <nolimitsoya> combo, you wont get it working, thats what im saying :)
[01:20] <nothlit> mseney, sudo aptitude reinstall ~i ?
[01:20] <abo> how can I tell what's the resolution of my screen?
[01:20] <nolimitsoya> combo, any atempts will mean mental- and nervous breakdown
[01:20] <mseney> nothlit, huh?
[01:20] <nothlit> nm
[01:20] <combo> nolimitsoya it is no Problem with WEP - the only problem is with WPA
[01:21] <nolimitsoya> !broadcom
[01:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:21] <Spee_Der> abo: In the top menu/system/preferences/screen resolution
[01:21] <nolimitsoya> hm... thats not what i wanted :/
[01:21] <dcordes> nolimitsoya: bcm gave me mental illness to
[01:21] <nolimitsoya> damn bot >_< need to upgrade its phycic skillz0rs :P
[01:21] <Spee_Der> lol
[01:22] <combo> nolimitsoya: no idea waht it coult be? The Device is still working but the only Problem is WPA
[01:23] <jikanter> combo: what type of device do you have?
[01:23] <nolimitsoya> broadcom :)
[01:23] <combo> yes^
[01:23] <combo> onboard^^
[01:24] <combo> it still connects with an universe driver to all WLans but to no WPA Secured ones
[01:25] <Spee_Der> Coffee is good and hot, but the color of this screen stinks out loud.... it is blinding..... lol
[01:25] <cew_musik> yaffed
[01:25] <nolimitsoya> combo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[01:27] <combo> nolimitsoya there is a new linux driver out for this device, as discribed in the german ubuntu manual pages
[01:27] <combo> it works very well
[01:30] <combo> i think its my config with wpa_supplicant is wrong, can that be?
[01:30] <hyper_ch> nolimitsoya: did you laugh at combo because of his chip on his wifi card?
[01:31] <DARKGuy> Okay, anybody here with experience in any webserver program? I've been trying to set up a webserver service in my home pc for days and haven't found the way how to. Please if someone can guide me step-by-step I would be really glad, because all I can do is install the programs, but it doesn't allows outside access!
[01:32] <hyper_ch> DARKGuy: have a look at www.howtoforge.com --> they have several tutorials for setting up LAMP on *ubuntu
[01:32] <porkpie> Hi guy's I have just moved my websites to an ubuntu server but on a couple of sites I am getting this error Invalid command 'RewriteEngine', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[01:32] <DARKGuy> hyper_ch: LAMP is for Server ubuntu cd, right? or does it work for desktop ubuntu install too?
[01:32] <ompaul> DarkED, I think you have the program set up what you need to do is modify your "router/firewall"
[01:33] <nothlit> DARKGuy, you probably have a router/firewall/proxy problem or your ISP may block ports like 80 and 25
[01:33] <DARKGuy> DarkED: It works because it does in Windows.
[01:33] <nothlit> LAMP is linux apache mysql php
[01:33] <hyper_ch> DARKGuy: no, LAMP is an acryonm for Linux Apache MySQL PHP
[01:33] <hyper_ch> DARKGuy: you can install that still on the desktop ubuntu installs... that's not a big problem
[01:33] <DarkED> Um..
[01:33] <DARKGuy> hyper_ch: Ah, I'll try on that site then, thanks
[01:33] <DarkED> I have no idea what you guys just pm'd me about :D
[01:34] <nothlit> hmm.. does ubuntu have a lamp metapackage?
[01:34] <nothlit> DarkED, lol we didn't pm you
[01:34] <hyper_ch> DARKGuy: however running a lamp I would rather advice on using debian sarge :)
[01:34] <DarkED> nothlit: You didnt, but two others did. something about a router?
[01:34] <porkpie> Any ideas  .....I am sure the rewrite module is instaled can someone tell me what pkg is missing? I am new to ubuntu
[01:34] <DARKGuy> hyper_ch: It's for sharing files temporarly with friends and such anyways, it's not gonna be permament ^_^;
[01:35] <nothlit> DarkED, tell us how your internet setup works. do you dial in have cable /lan plug into a router?
[01:35] <hyper_ch> DARKGuy: is it a lan?
[01:35] <DARKGuy> hyper_ch: Nope, over the WWW
[01:35] <pradeepvglughyd> hey anyone suggest a good manual for enlightenment on ubuntu
[01:35] <DarkED> nothlit: Um... its a Sprint PCS EVDO card...
[01:35] <nothlit> DarkED, sometimes ISP's don't let you run a http / ftp / mail server
[01:36] <hyper_ch> DARKGuy: if it's just for file sharing then I would either use FTP or SCP/SSH
[01:36] <DARKGuy> nothlit: then explain how does it works in Win?
[01:36] <DarkED> nothlit: I think you are talking to the wrong person...
[01:36] <hyper_ch> DARKGuy: and not setting up a www-server
[01:36] <DARKGuy> hyper_ch: I'd use it for showing websites too
[01:36] <DarkED> I never asked anyone a question
[01:36] <nothlit> is that 3g stuff or cablemodem/dsl/isdn stuff
[01:36] <DarkED> nothlit: Mine is 3G
[01:36] <nothlit> DarkED, oops sorry
[01:36] <DARKGuy> What a confusion xD
[01:36] <DarkED> Sorry guys
[01:36] <DarkED> I'll exit for a bit
[01:36] <hyper_ch> DarkED: I would seperate the web stuff and the sharing files stuff :)
[01:37] <DARKGuy> Nah, it's okay
[01:37] <DARKGuy> hyper_ch: memory-wise?
[01:37] <nothlit> Wait which Dark needs help with what
[01:37] <hyper_ch> DARKGuy: : I would seperate the web stuff and the sharing files stuff :)
[01:37] <DARKGuy> xD
[01:37] <hyper_ch> DARKGuy: nothing you would notice
[01:37] <DARKGuy> hyper_ch: Either way, I can't set up any FTP/WWW program with outside access, it just doesn't work >.<
[01:38] <nothlit> DARKGuy, how do you connect to the internet
[01:38] <hyper_ch> DARKGuy: why doesn't it just work?
[01:38] <nothlit> DARKGuy, you may not be able to if its your isp, unless you run on alternate ports
[01:38] <flossgeek_> Does anyone know to address the openoffice fonts rendering issue on edgy?
[01:39] <DARKGuy> nothlit: Uh, this PC is on a LAN... kinda, no domain just workgroup, goes to a switch which has the modem connected to it. No router here and I've tried with stuff like VNC and PHPDev/Apache for Windows and it works
[01:39] <hoelk_> anyone knows a good site where you can get a nice simple picutre blog for free?
[01:39] <DARKGuy> hyper_ch: I can access the apache thingy using my IP from this PC, but others can't from outside
[01:40] <hyper_ch> DARKGuy: are you sure there is no router or something? I just have problems to thinkt hat you are directly connected to the internet
[01:40] <nothlit> hyper_ch, " Uh, this PC is on a LAN... kinda, no domain just workgroup, goes to a switch which has the modem connected to it. No router here and I've tried with stuff like VNC and PHPDev/Apache for Windows and it works"
[01:41] <hyper_ch> it has a modem connected... so it may very well be the case that the modem also is a router
[01:41] <DARKGuy> hyper_ch: Huawei Smartax MT882, that thing has a router?
[01:41] <DARKGuy> I thought a router was a separate thing
[01:42] <birkett> hey, can someone help me out with the ubuntu install process?
[01:42] <hyper_ch> DARKGuy: what is your IP?
[01:42] <hyper_ch> DARKGuy: ifconfig
[01:42] <nothlit> DARKGuy, type ifconfig into a terminal
[01:42] <birkett> ive been stuck at "running 22gnome_panel_data" for an hour
[01:42] <DARKGuy> hyper_ch: nothlit  201.208.215.208
[01:42] <hyper_ch> DARKGuy: did that come out when you typed "ifconfig" into a terminal?
[01:43] <DARKGuy> hyper_ch: inet addr, yes
[01:43] <javaJake> Hello everyone.
[01:43] <hyper_ch> DARKGuy: then you are indeed directly connected to the internet....
[01:44] <nothlit> DARKGuy, were you trying to access a file on the server? linux servers are case sensitive
[01:44] <birkett> anyone?
[01:44] <hyper_ch> DARKGuy: no that is strange...
[01:44] <javaJake> birkett, say what?
[01:44] <hyper_ch> s/no /now
[01:44] <DARKGuy> nothlit: I tried the simple http://<ip>/
[01:44] <neverm1nd> I have problem with skype, can anyone help me?
[01:44] <birkett> ive been stuck at "running 22gnome_panel_data" for an hour
[01:44] <neverm1nd> :)
[01:44] <nothlit> hyper_ch, lol whats strange is that he got the windows one to work
[01:44] <DARKGuy> nothlit: apache page was shown locally, but not from the outside
[01:44] <nothlit> DARKGuy, are you running any ubuntu firewall? firestarter?
[01:45] <hyper_ch> DARKGuy: in the console please enter:  sudo apt-get install apache2
[01:45] <DARKGuy> nothlit: don't think so, at least I don't see any firestarter stuff in ps -ax
[01:45] <pradeepvglughyd> hey anyone suggest a good manual for enlightenment on ubuntu
[01:45] <DARKGuy> hyper_ch: ok
[01:45] <nothlit> pradeepvglughyd, you should specify e16 or e17 first btw
[01:45] <hyper_ch> pradeepvglughyd: you have come to the right place... ask and your question may (or may not) be answered :)
[01:45] <hyper_ch> dark
[01:46] <javaJake> birkett, oh, well, I can't be of much service there.
[01:46] <birkett> ok
[01:46] <javaJake> birkett, sorry.
[01:46] <hyper_ch> DARKGuy: after that do  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[01:46] <pradeepvglughyd> nothlit e17
[01:46] <birkett> np, im sure someone else has the same problem
[01:46] <DARKGuy> hyper_ch: okay, just a sec
[01:46] <nothlit> did you try the ebuntu documentation?
[01:46] <birkett> looking on the forums, theres nly 4 threads relating too it though
[01:46] <DARKGuy> hyper_ch: says it's already running
[01:46] <nothlit> I think theres some floating around somewhere
[01:46] <hyper_ch> DARKGuy: that's good :)
[01:46] <DARKGuy> hyper_ch: it started it when it finished installing, anyways
[01:46] <javaJake> birkett, I'd google, though. Something like "frozen 22gnome_panel_data" or "stuck 22gnome_panel_data".
[01:47] <DARKGuy> hyper_ch: that part it is :)
[01:47] <nothlit> DARKGuy, did you check your apache config  files?
[01:48] <DARKGuy> nothlit: I want to modify them, but I dunno what to edit in order to make it visible from the outside
[01:48] <hyper_ch> DARKGuy: I can ping you but I can't access your apache
[01:48] <nothlit> birkett, does it always freeze? did you checksum the disc?
[01:48] <DARKGuy> hyper_ch: see? that's what happens
[01:48] <hyper_ch> nothlit can you try to access his IP by a browser?
[01:48] <DARKGuy> hyper_ch: However, I have the index displaying right here
[01:48] <pradeepvglughyd> hey anyone suggest a good manual for enlightenment(e17) on ubuntu
[01:49] <nothlit> hyper_ch, pinged it and tried to visit it as soon as he pasted his ip
[01:49] <javaJake> birkett, oh, you running livecd?
[01:49] <DARKGuy> nothlit: It wasn't up when I pasted the IP :P
[01:49] <hyper_ch> nothlit: but no success either right?
[01:49] <javaJake> birkett, yea, I'd run the "Check CD" thing first ALWAYS. If any _ONE_ thing is messed up, it's bound to cause problems one way or another.
[01:49] <nothlit> hyper_ch, well, the pinging worked rofl
[01:49] <DARKGuy> nothlit: right now it is, or so it see I only see an apache2-default folder in the browser
[01:49] <DARKGuy> *seems
[01:50] <birkett> javajake: I passed the media check :P
[01:50] <reverseblade> How do I enable ACL ?
[01:50] <nothlit> DARKGuy, btw you configuration files are in /etc and the server files are in /var/www
[01:50] <nothlit> htdocs
[01:50] <hyper_ch> DARKGuy: well, no clue... sorry
[01:50] <javaJake> birkett, oh, ok
[01:50] <DARKGuy> hyper_ch: s'okay, big thanks for trying ^^;;
[01:50] <javaJake> birkett, try this: when you boot the livecd push f6.
[01:50] <DARKGuy> nothlit: Yup, I know that :P
[01:51] <Vorbote> reverseblade: it depends on your filesystem.
[01:51] <birkett> yup
[01:51] <DARKGuy> nothlit: I wonder, does this normal install of apache2 makes it accessible from the outside by default or do you have to edit something in order to do so?
[01:51] <javaJake> birkett, then erase the "quiet" and "splash" words, and push enter.
[01:51] <reverseblade> Vorbote, since this is #ubuntu , what file system I could be using ?
[01:51] <birkett> okies
[01:51] <DARKGuy> Vorbote: ext3 IIRC
[01:52] <nothlit> DARKGuy, ubuntu's automatically does from what i remember
[01:52] <javaJake> birkett, that'll give you verbose output about what's going on.
[01:52] <nothlit> DARKGuy, i don't have it installed atm
[01:52] <javaJake> birkett, that might help.
[01:52] <birkett> ya
[01:52] <Vorbote> reverseblade: that's a combination of religigous belief and personal experience. But as DARKGuy points out (erroneusly to me, btw) ext3 is the default in Debian and derivatives.
[01:52] <nothlit> DARKGuy, have you tried accessing other services from 'remote' computers?
[01:52] <DARKGuy> nothlit: Hm, do you know what to edit, so I can change the listening port, for example? it's the last thing that comes to mind :/
[01:52] <birkett> ill see what happens, hpefully wont have to stare at 80% for an hour
[01:52] <javaJake> birkett, lol
[01:52] <DARKGuy> nothlit: Yes, VNC works
[01:52] <neverm1nd> where skype saves passwords?
[01:53] <knix_> neverm1nd: they're encrypted
[01:53] <nothlit> DARKGuy, just find the port entry in the apache.ini (i think it should be there)
[01:53] <reverseblade> Vorbote, you are very helpful, in deed
[01:53] <Vorbote> reverseblade: in the case of ext2/3/4 you use tune2fs to enable ACLs in the filesystem.
[01:53] <nothlit> like ctrl+f find it (or C^W if you're using nano)
[01:53] <DARKGuy> nothlit: is there an apache.ini in linux oO whoah
[01:53] <reverseblade> alright
[01:53] <hyper_ch> DARKGuy: changing apache port is in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf I think
[01:53] <reverseblade> Vorbote, I have just installed a package called ACL
[01:53] <neverm1nd> knix_:  I've just installed skype and it's showing that wrong pass
[01:53] <nothlit> ^ there you go :)
[01:53] <DARKGuy> Ah, there, thanks hyper_ch :)
[01:54] <Vorbote> reverseblade: yes, you need the userspace tools to be able to manipulate ACLs in the filesystem
[01:54] <nothlit> DARKGuy, lol i guess not, sry, I don't have apache installed atm so I can't check
[01:54] <Spee_Der> Good morning DARK
[01:54] <DARKGuy> nothlit: S'okay, I found it xD
[01:54] <DARKGuy> hey Spee_Der! good morning, how it's going :)
[01:54] <javaJake> neverm1nd, you could delete the entire .skype folder.
[01:54] <Spee_Der> Very well & you ?
[01:54] <A3n> iwlist scan cant find my AP
[01:55] <reverseblade> alright, one more thing Vorbote , is it worth enough to deal ? do you think it is stable ? and why it is not enabled by default in gnu linux? or will it be in the future ?
[01:55] <A3n> i dont know what to do
[01:55] <neverm1nd> javaJake: where can I find it?
[01:55] <DARKGuy> Spee_Der: quite good thanks, trying to set up apache for outside access >.<
[01:55] <javaJake> neverm1nd, under your home folder.
[01:55] <nothlit> DARKGuy, the problem is that you said a windows http server was accessible, which pretty much rules out almost everything, except a firewall config
[01:55] <Spee_Der> Very nice.
[01:55] <javaJake> neverm1nd, but I haven't worked wiht skype a lot, so it may not be called .skype.
[01:55] <neverm1nd> javaJake: I'll try ;)
[01:55] <DARKGuy> nothlit: and there's no firewall active right now so :P
[01:55] <neverm1nd> javaJake: thanks for help
[01:55] <Spee_Der> We are watching Rocky & Bullwinkle cartoons.
[01:55] <javaJake> A3n, does it work for other APs?
[01:55] <DARKGuy> xD cool
[01:55] <javaJake> neverm1nd, np
[01:56] <A3n> javaJake:didnt try yet
[01:56] <nothlit> DARKGuy, iptables -L
[01:56] <A3n> javaJake:trying to get my internet to work
[01:56] <javaJake> A3n, yea... what card do ya have?
[01:56] <eyalw> how do I set my away msg on gaim? the gaim channel wasn't any help
[01:56] <A3n> javaJake:installed the driver with ndiswrapper
[01:56] <javaJake> A3n, ok, good good
[01:56] <A3n> javaJake: Prism Javelin/xbow
[01:56] <javaJake> A3n, and ndiswrapper says all's well?
[01:57] <A3n> Intersil something something
[01:57] <DARKGuy> nothlit: Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT), Forward & output have empty fields
[01:57] <Vorbote> reverseblade: it is very stable. Particularly in the case of extX because that was the first file system where ACLs were implemented. (XFS was the second; reiserfs is a hack, JFS is very recent but works nicely). The reason is is not enabled by default is perhaps historic; ACLs are used in massive multi-user setups mostly and that was the domain of Solaris and AIX in the past.
[01:57] <A3n> javaJake:well its installed correctly and modprobe ndiswrapper doesnt error
[01:57] <reverseblade> Vorbote, and for the future , what is your expectations ?
[01:57] <javaJake> A3n, does "ndiswrapper -l" say it is installed AND the hardware is present?
[01:58] <A3n> and iwconfig finds eth2 as a wireless interface with the correct ssid
[01:58] <nothlit> DARKGuy, I think I'm out of ideas
[01:58] <Vorbote> reverseblade: Linux multi-user servers will rule ;-)
[01:58] <A3n> yup
[01:58] <javaJake> A3n, say what? eth2 as a wireless device, with correct ssid?...
[01:58] <DARKGuy> nothlit: so am I :( I'm changing ports to see if I have any luck
[01:58] <javaJake> A3n, I'm not following there...
[01:58] <reverseblade> Vorbote, I meant about the availability of ACL by default ?
[01:58] <nothlit> DARKGuy, after you change the config sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[01:59] <reverseblade> Vorbote, I am just curious, if we could see ACL as the de facto standard
[01:59] <DARKGuy> nothlit: just did, try please? http://darkguy.no-ip.org:300/
[01:59] <A3n> javaJake:iwlist eth2 (my wireless) scan cant find my access point
[01:59] <javaJake> A3n, are you saying eth2 is seeing your wireless network?
[01:59] <A3n> http://prism54.org/punbb/viewtopic.php?pid=4428
[01:59] <A3n> like this
[01:59] <nothlit> DARKGuy, not working
[01:59] <DARKGuy> nothlit: dangit :/
[01:59] <A3n> apperantly, but it cant find my AP for some reason
[01:59] <Airwulf> hello to you all
[01:59] <DARKGuy> hi Airwulf
[02:00] <Airwulf> Can I modify the context menu of gnome desktop?
[02:00] <abes> Hey I have a problem: I have a laptop with an audio output in the front (3.5mm jack). When I plug the headphones in they work, indeed, but the main speakers are still on which kind of beats the purpose of the headphones... Any ideas?
[02:00] <javaJake> A3n, ok, it seems like they're making an AP using their card.
[02:00] <Vorbote> reverseblade: that's always a prerogative of the sysadmin. If you like me, are a BOfH or former one, you will enabled them first thing in the list. But to enable them by efault? Hmm... I think the traditional POSIX scheme works well enough, unless you have to interoperate with SMB/CIFS filesystems (namely WinNT/Samba).
[02:00] <javaJake> A3n, and they can see other APs.
[02:00] <javaJake> A3n, which tells me their cards are working, mostly.
[02:01] <javaJake> A3n, now, in your case, your card doesn't seem to work at all.
[02:01] <reverseblade> Vorbote, I got it, thanks
[02:01] <javaJake> A3n, and they use the kernel modules, not ndiswrapper.
[02:01] <nothlit> DARKGuy, I just tried in 6 browsers, nada, but the route to you is clear with ping, so its definitely an apache problem
[02:01] <Vorbote> reverseblade: your welcome
[02:01] <javaJake> A3n, maybe there's a driver conflict... do you know what the driver for your card is in the kernel?
[02:02] <A3n> javaJake: i dont know
[02:02] <DARKGuy> nothlit: Ah, thanks for the info :) definitely it's an apache problem, but it's kind of hard to try to solve since google doesn't help at all >.< and all apache stuff I search for linux end up with LAMP installations with webserver stuff already installed and don't tell how to install it in a non-server setup
[02:02] <A3n> javaJake: i know i installed the driver correctly with ndiswrapper 1.23 with the correct howto from http://prism54.org/punbb/viewtopic.php?pid=4428
[02:02] <javaJake> A3n, wrong link. :P
[02:03] <A3n> oops right
[02:03] <A3n> http://prism54.org/punbb/viewtopic.php?pid=4428
[02:03] <DARKGuy> lol
[02:03] <A3n> no damit
[02:03] <javaJake> rofl
[02:03] <A3n> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation
[02:03] <A3n> ah
[02:03] <A3n> :D
[02:03] <DARKGuy> yay
[02:03] <javaJake> Ah, right
[02:03] <A3n> stupid ctrl+c
[02:03] <javaJake> :P
[02:03] <abes> Hey I have a problem: I have a laptop with an audio output in the front (3.5mm jack). When I plug the headphones in they work, indeed, but the main speakers are still on which kind of beats the purpose of the headphones... Any ideas?
[02:04] <alecjw> im trying to use twinview but only one of my mo0nitors works, can someone help me please?
[02:04] <alecjw> *work
[02:04] <javaJake> A3n, OK, so ndiswrapper itself is installed OK.
[02:04] <A3n> javaJake: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation#Configure_interface is where i have the problem
[02:04] <nothlit> DARKGuy, did you follow the server install in help.ubuntu.com/community ?
[02:04] <javaJake> A3n, goto System -> Administration -> Device Manager.
[02:04] <nothlit> DARKGuy, it'll work fine from an ubuntu-desktop install
[02:04] <javaJake> A3n, locate your card, and tell me what the model is.
[02:05] <DARKGuy> nothlit: lemme check
[02:05] <javaJake> A3n, I need something solid to google with so I can find out what kernel module might be conflicting...
[02:05] <A3n> well i'm dual booting ubuntu / windows and i'm on windows atm
[02:05] <javaJake> A3n, oh... ok....
[02:05] <javaJake> A3n, well, device manager in windows works. :)
[02:05] <javaJake> A3n, just tell me exactly what it says.
[02:05] <alecjw> here's my xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35172/
[02:06] <abes> Anybody?
[02:06] <alecjw> both of them onitors are exactly the smae, except oned digital (DFP) and one's analogue (CRT)
[02:06] <fuffe> I'm running Nvidia Gforce 5500FX and 3D games runned much faster on windows than on linux.
[02:06] <DARKGuy> nothlit: Yes, I followed a similar one
[02:06] <nothlit> Same vertical/horizontal scan/refresh rate?
[02:06] <A3n> "Sitecom Wireless PCI Card 54Mbps WL-121v2 ?
[02:07] <DARKGuy> nothlit: this one has some editing stuff that the ones I followed didn't had, maybe I'll try this to check
[02:07] <javaJake> alecjw, Xorg.0.log will help you get more help.
[02:07] <javaJake> A3n, excellent! That's what your card is...
[02:07] <nothlit> DARKGuy, lol I'm sorry then, the server install worked fine for me from ubuntu-desktop on a diff system
[02:07] <alecjw> javaJake: will that be in the smae dir?
[02:07] <alecjw> nothlit: were you talking to me? if you were, yes.
[02:07] <javaJake> alecjw, no, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:07] <DARKGuy> nothlit: Well, it doesn't hurt to try this one from the start, again :P
[02:07] <A3n> yea but in ubuntu it shows up as Intersil ISL Prism Javelin/Xbow
[02:08] <eilker> what is alternate cd?
[02:08] <javaJake> A3n, well then Ubuntu's plain wrong.
[02:08] <javaJake> A3n, I think
[02:08] <nothlit> alecjw, i was and oh
[02:08] <abes> Hello! I have a problem: I have a laptop with an audio output in the front (3.5mm jack). When I plug the headphones in they work, indeed, but the main speakers are still on which kind of beats the purpose of the headphones... Any ideas?
[02:08] <A3n> but ndiswrapper said "driver present, hardware present"
[02:08] <praveer_fedora> is it possible that ubuntu 6.06 install doesnt ask for root password and authentication fails while accessing root account?
[02:08] <A3n> so i supose it uses that chipset
[02:09] <Huibert> praveer_fedora: yes, the root account is sort off disabled in ubuntu
[02:09] <nothlit> praveer_fedora, ubuntu never asks for root passwd, its sudo based
[02:09] <Huibert> !sudo
[02:09] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:09] <praveer_fedora> ok
[02:09] <alecjw> javaJake: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35173/
[02:09] <A3n> javaJake: so maybe a problem between prism00 driver and "wireless tools for linux"
[02:11] <alecjw> nothlit, javaJake: both of them are actually the smae monitor, but it has an anlogue and digital input and my gpu has an analogue and digital output.
[02:11] <javaJake> A3n, yea... it's a matter of figuring out what the module's called, and unloading it. Tell you what, next time you are in Linux run "lsmod | grep prism". That'll show any prism information.
[02:11] <DARKGuy> nothlit: w00t, I think I -kinda- did it
[02:11] <daniel32> where can i download the grub for dos?
[02:11] <A3n> javaJake: k i"ll try that
[02:12] <javaJake> alecjw, "(WW) NVIDIA(0): TwinView requested, but only 1 display devices found."
[02:12] <nothlit> DARKGuy, thats great :)
[02:12] <javaJake> A3n, that should list any currently loaded prism modules.
[02:12] <alecjw> javaJake: but i have 2.... (well, one with both inputs plugged in). what shall i do?
[02:12] <javaJake> A3n, I won't be on long, so here's my e-mail: fun 2 program 8 AT yahoo d.i.t com
[02:12] <daniel32> i'm trying to reinstall my windows.
[02:12] <DARKGuy> nothlit: :) now it says access denied (I'm trying with a web proxy) but that means I'll just have to edit folder permissions no?
[02:13] <javaJake> alecjw, you didn't correctly configure twinview, it looks like. Check your configuration and be sure you configured it correctly.
[02:13] <A3n> k
[02:13] <nothlit> DARKGuy,  The access denied is probably the proxy denying you
[02:13] <daniel32> quit
[02:13] <dou213> hey, i have vmware server and receive an error when trying to power on FreeBSD: "Could not CreateProcess: Failed to logon to specified account for VM"
[02:13] <javaJake> alecjw, mainly check to be sure the two monitors are properly punched into twinview.
[02:14] <DARKGuy> nothlit: Ah, then could you try please? sorry for bothering so much ^^ ->
[02:14] <DARKGuy> http://darkguy.no-ip.org:300/
[02:14] <A3n> javaJake: Chipset: Intersil Corporation ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow]  (rev 01)
[02:14] <A3n> pciid: 1260:3886 (rev 01)
[02:14] <javaJake> alecjw, cause twinview isn't seeing them both.
[02:14] <A3n> thats what showed up on lspci -n
[02:14] <alecjw> javaJake: sorry, im a complete n00b at dual monitors in xorg, how do i do that?
[02:14] <javaJake> A3n, alright, thanks... more stuff to google. :)
[02:15] <nothlit> DARKGuy, nope, and lol I tried when you said you did it
[02:15] <javaJake> alecjw, ah, ok, that explains this a little. :P
[02:15] <javaJake> alecjw, what HOWTO did you follow?
[02:15] <nothlit> DARKGuy, don't worry this is a help room
[02:15] <DARKGuy> nothlit: Lol I'll keep trying then xD
[02:15] <DARKGuy> nothlit: :)
[02:15] <javaJake> A3n, hey, check this out:
[02:16] <javaJake> A3n, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[02:16] <javaJake> A3n, and search for "1260:3886" within that page
[02:16] <javaJake> !away | rmbl
[02:16] <ubotu> rmbl: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[02:16] <A3n> ythats what i did lol :p
[02:16] <javaJake> A3n, ok
[02:16] <nothlit> DARKGuy, did you want me to try darkguy.no-ip.org or darkguy.no-ip.org:300 ?
[02:16] <A3n> sitecom is in there
[02:17] <javaJake> alecjw, if you give me a link to the HOWTO you used to configure the TwinView, I should be able to hlp.
[02:17] <Huibert> !guidelines > Huibert.Gill
[02:17] <storkme> how can i mount as root but enable the user to read/write to it?
[02:17] <alecjw> javaJake: i did exactly what this tutorial told me to do: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773584 then i relised that there was no way that it would know i wanted 2 screens if there was only 1 in xorg.conf so i copied and pasted the monitor and screen sections and changed the identifiers
[02:17] <Seanz> is there such a company called Linux? Some kid reckons he is a "coding engeneer at Linux" and I'm just double checking that it is all bullshit.
[02:17] <DARKGuy> nothlit: http://darkguy.no-ip.org:300/
[02:17] <joris> Hi it seems the ubuntu archive repositaries are down, never had before; does everybody have this?
[02:17] <Huibert> !guidelines > me
[02:18] <nothlit> DARKGuy, nothing
[02:18] <nothlit> --- archive.ubuntu.com ping statistics ---
[02:18] <nothlit> 2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 2555ms
[02:19] <DARKGuy> Whoops, I ran the wrong script accidentally xD;
[02:19] <joris> strange...
[02:19] <DARKGuy> nothlit: did it work?
[02:19] <alecjw> javaJake: so have i been a com-pete iudiot?
[02:19] <alecjw> *complete
[02:19] <javaJake> alecjw, no
[02:19] <javaJake> alecjw, something just got tweaked the wrong way, I think...
[02:19] <nothlit> DARKGuy, no, i'm sorry
[02:20] <DARKGuy> nothlit: :( *keeps trying*
[02:20] <ernz> Hello
[02:20] <[Wiebel] > Hi again,
[02:20] <ernz> Can someone please tell me why my new Edgy installation has an extra Floppy 1 drive that doesn't physically exist?
[02:20] <DARKGuy> nothlit: IT WORKS!!!!!!
[02:20] <A[D] minS> hello what is package like prozilla under ubuntu ?
[02:20] <[Wiebel] > is there a nice howto some where to make a nice netboot ubuntu distro
[02:20] <[Wiebel] > only howto's I can find are for install systems
[02:20] <DARKGuy> nothlit: http://darkguy.no-ip.org:300/~dragon/ what about this >:D?
[02:21] <javaJake> alecjw, check this out: "the "ConnectedMonitor" option overrides what display devices are actually detected, while the "UseDisplayDevice" option controls which of the detected display devices will be used on this X screen."
[02:21] <[Wiebel] > But I need a full grown ubuntu kernel with netboot support
[02:21] <nothlit> DARKGuy, try running this server and see if it works http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html
[02:21] <javaJake> alecjw, so I'd comment out those two options (by placing a "#" in front of them) and try again.
[02:21] <DARKGuy> nothlit: oki o.o;
[02:21] <A[D] minS> i want to install download manager like download accelerator ? is there something like it under edgy ?
[02:21] <javaJake> alecjw, since the drivers should take care of that by itself.
[02:21] <alecjw> javaJake: thanks, i'll try that
[02:21] <javaJake> A[D] minS, you use Firefox?
[02:21] <nothlit> DARKGuy, also its a dev server if you run it permanently you need to follow the security stuff there
[02:22] <DARKGuy> nothlit: alright, I'll try :)
[02:22] <javaJake> A[D] minS, 'cause DownThemAll(.net) is an awesome download manager that really really does a great job.
[02:22] <nothlit> DARKGuy, nothing from ~dragon either
[02:22] <DARKGuy> nothlit: and, false alarm on that x_x
[02:22] <DARKGuy> nothlit: yeah ):
[02:22] <javaJake> A[D] minS, but it is a plugin for firefox.
[02:22] <DARKGuy> nothlit: gonna try that one now
[02:22] <Zaggynl> argl
[02:22] <Zaggynl> I just -cannot- bind those keypad keys in gconf-editor
[02:22] <alecjw> javaJake: ok - i'm restarting x now. wish me luck!
[02:23] <eilker> what is alternate cd ? what is it for ?
[02:23] <javaJake> *Sigh*
[02:23] <nothlit> DARKGuy, kk
[02:23] <Aldoliel> eilker, Server and text-mode installs
[02:24] <javaJake> eilker, for systems that have less then 192 MB RAM, or Gnome isn't working, or other special needs.
[02:24] <javaJake> eilker, like a server install.
[02:24] <eilker> aldoliel: we have server cd too, what is difference between them ?
[02:24] <javaJake> !server
[02:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[02:24] <nothlit> eilker, alternate cd is a non graphical cd for setting up things like grub/lvm/raid and you use it for basic installs more customised installs and when the desktop live cd doesn't work (it doesn't use the X server, so there are less things to go wrong
[02:25] <nothlit> javaJake, no the server disc is different from the alternate disc
[02:25] <javaJake> Hmm... well, if you are going for a server install, that's the way to go.
[02:25] <javaJake> nothlit, ok
[02:25] <alecjw> javaJake: i've got a message to send you, but its a bit to big to put here, i'll patebin it.
[02:25] <javaJake> OK
[02:25] <storkme> how do i automatically mount a windows share at startup?
[02:25] <eilker> nothlit: we have ubuntu, kubuntu,xubuntu,edubuntu, alternate cd , and server cd ? right ?
[02:25] <javaJake> Aldoliel, eilker, never mind - the alternate cd doesn't do server installations now.
[02:25] <nothlit> Stork, a windows share or a windows drive?
[02:25] <javaJake> eilker, yes...
[02:25] <frogzoo> !ntfs | storkme
[02:25] <ubotu> storkme: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:25] <A[D] minS> javaJake: i want to download files using more than 3 connection @ same time to finish it quickly ..but firefox will download using 1 connection..thats why i am looking for download manager to download 4 pers
[02:26] <DARKGuy> A[D] minS: d4x (Downloader for X)
[02:26] <nothlit> Stork, if its a drive ubuntu-guide.org if its a share you need smbfs and then you have to pass login options or guest,uid/guid=#### in fstab
[02:26] <javaJake> A[D] minS, right, DownThemAll makes 4-5 connections to the server.
[02:26] <Aldoliel> A[D] minS, Can you not change that in Firefox's about:config?
[02:26] <eilker> server cd has a gui ?
[02:26] <frogzoo> A[D] minS: wget, but it's cli only
[02:26] <DARKGuy> A[D] minS: It's like FlashGet - or what javaJake told you
[02:26] <javaJake> eilker, I don't think so...
[02:26] <nothlit> eilker, and dvd
[02:26] <alecjw> javaJake: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35174/
[02:26] <alecjw> :)
[02:26] <javaJake> alecjw, rofl!!!!
[02:27] <javaJake> alecjw, nice one... I thought they were errors. :D
[02:27] <nothlit> eilker, theres also unofficial ebuntu nubuntu flu(x)buntu  ubuntu lite icthux ubuntu and ubuntu christian edition
[02:27] <javaJake> alecjw, so that you know, here was the problem:
[02:27] <A[D] minS> DARKGuy: ok d4x :) will install it thx again Guys
[02:27] <dv_> hmm
[02:27] <dv_> I want a distro called "intex2
[02:27] <dv_> "Intex2
[02:27] <dv_> argh
[02:27] <dv_> "Intex" :)
[02:27] <javaJake> alecjw, those options limit what monitors and cards X detects. By punching those in, you made one of your monitors not be detected. Removing them did the trick.
[02:27] <eilker> nothlit: i have kubuntu and installed lamp server, do i have same things with server cd installation now ? trying to understand difference between kubuntu desktop and server
[02:28] <dv_> like the computer system from the alien breed series
[02:28] <alecjw> javaJake: oh right. thanks
[02:28] <javaJake> alecjw, np.
[02:28] <javaJake> Got to dash, everyone. Tata
[02:28] <warkruid> \quit
[02:28] <javaJake> lol
[02:29] <nothlit> eilker, no ubuntu server cd doesn't have a gui , you actually have more things :)
[02:29] <nothlit> eilker, also i don't know if there is any difference between kubuntu server cd and ubuntu server cd
[02:29] <nothlit> but probably not
[02:30] <eilker> nothlit: i think there is no kubuntu server cd...
[02:30] <nothlit> ahh k
[02:30] <eilker> nothlit: just ubuntu server cd
[02:30] <eilker> nothlit: because no kde no gnome
[02:31] <Donald1> hello, i would like to know why each time i try open Azureus, it opens for a few seconds then just shuts down...
[02:31] <m3m0r3xXx> !flash
[02:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:31] <nothlit> Yeah but I thought mabbe they double named it so ppl would know they could d/l a server install even if they like kubuntu and i remember there are a lot of d/l options
[02:31] <DARKGuy> Donald1: try running "azureus" from a terminal and tell us what does it says?
[02:32] <nothlit> DARKGuy, hows your server stuff going
[02:32] <DARKGuy> nothlit: downloading still, 30/50Mb ;)
[02:32] <Donald1> DARKGuy: i'm new to all this, and i'm trying to learn how to use the teminal, how do i launch it from the terminal?
[02:33] <DARKGuy> Donald1: Ah, you just open a terminal window and type "azureus" then press enter, just like that :P
[02:33] <nothlit> Donald1, Applications -> Accessories -> Gnome Terminal              type in azureus and hit enter
[02:33] <Donald1> lol ok
[02:33] <DARKGuy> Donald1: the terminal is where nothlit told you :P
[02:33] <Donald1> :p
[02:33] <Donald1> Darkguy: it says # An error report file has been saved as hs_err_pid11823.log.
[02:33] <Donald1> # Please refer to the file for further information.
[02:34] <stoorty> how do i know if i have edgy or dapper?
[02:34] <nothlit> DARKGuy, just check the security readme
[02:34] <frogzoo> stoorty: lsb_release -a
[02:35] <stoorty> thanks frogzoo
[02:35] <DARKGuy> Donald1: Hm, I dunno where is that logfile, I thought it'd throw some stuff in the terminal :/
[02:36] <DARKGuy> Donald1: if you type "ls" then press enter, does that file shows up?
[02:36] <DarkED> Anybody have any clue why Ubuntu freezes when I pull my EVDO card out of the CardBus slot?
[02:36] <DARKGuy> nothlit: Sure will, thanks :)
[02:36] <Donald1> DARKGuy: let me check
[02:36] <dou213> hey, i have vmware server and receive an error when trying to power on FreeBSD: "Could not CreateProcess: Failed to logon to specified account for VM"
[02:36] <nothlit> DARKGuy, go look in ~/.azureus
[02:36] <nothlit> you might have to go into a log folder in there
[02:37] <nothlit> DARKGuy, sry i mean donald
[02:37] <DARKGuy> nothlit: Oh xD
[02:37] <Donald1> nothlit: it says .azureus is a directory
[02:37] <rvalles> qemu-0.8.2/usb-linux.c:29:28: linux/compiler.h: No such file or directory
[02:37] <nothlit> Donald1, you might have too look in ~/.azureus or ~/.azureus/log(s)
[02:37] <nothlit> Donald1, i know
[02:37] <rvalles> trying to compile qemu according to the guide in the wiki
[02:37] <rvalles> what am I missing?
[02:37] <Donald1> nothlit: ok
[02:38] <nothlit> rvalles, qemu or kqemu?
[02:38] <rvalles> nothlit: both.
[02:38] <Zaggynl> I'm trying to bind my keypad substract key to a 'run_command_#', anyone knows howto?
[02:38] <josh_> anyone in here have experience with rainbow tables?
[02:38] <rvalles> nothlit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu
[02:38] <nothlit> rvalles, you'll need linux header files and build-essential
[02:38] <rvalles> nothlit: this "compiling from source" thing.
[02:38] <nothlit> rvalles, i have them both installed
[02:38] <nothlit> rvalles, i dont think you need to compile qemu
[02:38] <rvalles> nothlit: I shouldn't need special headers (the kernel is a 2.6.19 I built myself).
[02:38] <josh_> rainbow tables?
[02:39] <nothlit> rvalles, go to kqemus site it'll tell you what to do
[02:39] <Donald1> nothlit: what do I do?
[02:39] <rvalles> nothlit: I need to; I want kqemu.
[02:39] <nothlit> rvalles, I'm running the qemu (ubuntu) binary and the kqemu module
[02:39] <frogzoo> Zaggynl: system -> gconf editor  & look for the key binding under metacity
[02:40] <rvalles> nothlit: interesting.
[02:40] <Zaggynl> frogzoo, I'm trying to find out what the right Key is
[02:40] <nothlit> rvalles, also later on you have to remember to chmod qemu or change the startup scripts to do so
 or <KP_Substract> do not work
[02:40] <frogzoo> Zaggynl: xev
[02:40] <noelferreira> firefox won't start. any help?
[02:40] <Donald1> nothlit: i tryied launching azureus again, and when it shut down, it said in the terminal: Aborted (core dumped)
[02:40] <Zaggynl> frogzoo, that only gives me a keycode
[02:40] <Zaggynl> which doesn't work either
[02:40] <Zaggynl> 'state 0x10, keycode 82 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol), same_screen YES,'
[02:40] <frogzoo> Zaggynl: xmodmap ?
[02:40] <nothlit> Donald1, go to /home/donald/.azureus and see if there are any .log files there
[02:41] <Zaggynl> >
[02:41] <TC`> !real
[02:41] <Zaggynl> ?
[02:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about real - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:41] <Donald1> nothlit: ok
[02:41] <TC`> !realplayer
[02:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:41] <Zaggynl> frogzoo, what's with that?
[02:41] <nothlit> rvalles, sorry i mean /dev/kqemu
[02:41] <Donald1> nothlit: bash: /home/donald/.azureus: No such file or directory
[02:42] <nothlit> Donald1, whereever your home folder is lol
[02:42] <Xteven> how can I change the refresh rate in ubuntu ?
[02:42] <Donald1> nothlit: lol sorry^^
[02:42] <frogzoo> Zaggynl: tried KP_Subtract ?
[02:42] <Xteven> I can select a resolution, but not a refresh rate
[02:42] <DARKGuy> nothlit: w00t, I just installed it :3
[02:43] <Zaggynl> frogzoo, I think so, but I'll retry that
[02:43] <noelferreira> any help? firefox and thunderbird won't start.
[02:43] <nothlit> DARKGuy, ok run it and i'll try to access it
[02:43] <woro2006_> hey
[02:43] <Zaggynl> frogzoo, nope :(
[02:43] <woro2006_> anybody got dovecot + postfix set up?
[02:43] <DARKGuy> nothlit: just did, please try ^^
[02:43] <woro2006_> i need the configuration file
[02:43] <nothlit> DARKGuy, make sure your other servers aren't conflicting with the ports
[02:43] <woro2006_> it doesn't seem like dovcot is reading in the users/password file
[02:44] <frogzoo> Zaggynl: xmodmap -kp will show the mapping from scancode to x's keycodes
[02:44] <Zaggynl> ah sweet
[02:44] <DARKGuy> nothlit: what do you mean exactly, like, what servers? mysql and such?
[02:44] <nothlit> DARKGuy, i'm not getting anything
[02:44] <nothlit> DARKGuy, yeah
[02:44] <nothlit> DARKGuy, are you getting anything from it?
[02:45] <DARKGuy> nothlit: I'm at localhost reading the security stuff and such
[02:45] <nothlit> It sounds like maybe your windows install did something with UPnP to automatically route the server to your comp that ubuntu isn't doing
[02:46] <nothlit> DARKGuy, it might not be apache then
[02:46] <Donald1> nothlit: it doesnt find .azureus anywhere, i checked with the search app in every directory, and it doesnt find it :s
[02:47] <alecjw> hi, how do i set my primary monitor in twinview?
[02:47] <Zaggynl> frogzoo, lots of keys in there, but kp_subtract and kp_add aren't in the list
[02:47] <Dreamglider> i just have to reinstall ubuntu i guess. and install windows aswell so i can watch a movie and be wireless... later.
[02:47] <nothlit> Donald1, its a hidden directory at the base of a users home folder
[02:48] <Donald1> nothlit: so how do i access it?
[02:48] <DARKGuy> nothlit: it's so weird, how can other programs like VNC work? :/
[02:48] <nothlit> DARKGuy, rofl, absolutely no idea, i'm flabbergasted
[02:48] <DARKGuy> nothlit: it's so messed up xD...
[02:48] <humbolt> would feisty kernel run in edgy?
[02:49] <alecjw> can anone help me?
[02:49] <DARKGuy> nothlit: Oh well, this might give something else to play for a while and see if there can be something done for it, big thanks though :)
[02:49] <noelferreira> hi people any help please. firefos won't start
[02:49] <frogzoo> Zaggynl: not even KP_Subtract ?
[02:49] <Zaggynl> frogzoo, nope
[02:49] <hastesaver> Hi, changing the volume doesn't seem to be working. Is this a known/common bug?
[02:49] <Zaggynl> actually, the whole keycode isn't bound at all
[02:49] <nothlit> DARKGuy, start your vnc server, lemme see if i can connect to it, (not login or anything just see if i can access it)
[02:49] <nothlit> DARKGuy, i just wanna make sure
[02:49] <DARKGuy> nothlit: Oki, gimme a sec
[02:50] <xevil> Donald1: this might help you...  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25852.html
[02:50] <nothlit> Zaggynl, why don't you use a utility like xbindkeys or bbkeys instead
[02:50] <humbolt> I mean, are there any critical differences in the kernel API between edgy and feisty kernel? something like hotplug being replaced by udev?
[02:51] <frogzoo> Zaggynl: I think you can create a .xmodrc to map the key setting, not speaking from experience
[02:51] <Zaggynl> nothlit, I'll give those a try, thanks
[02:51] <hastesaver> To be precise, the volume bar in gnome-panel (as well as what responds when I use my keyboard's volume changing keys (what are they called?)) are both set to Master, which seems to have no effect. Can I change them to PCM or something?
[02:51] <Xteven> hello ?
[02:52] <Zaggynl> 'lo
[02:52] <Xteven> hi
[02:52] <profoX> does ubuntu 6.06 support all kinds of scsi devices?
[02:52] <frogzoo> hastesaver: right click -> preferences
[02:52] <dbe> In which directory should I put CVS files?
[02:52] <Xteven> can you tell me how I can select a refresh rate for a specific resolution ? I was able to do this in dapper, but not in edgy ?
[02:52] <fuci> Can someone help me? I've installed Nvidia drivers (twice, apparently..) and tried to remove them, did that and installed and enabled the drivers in my xorg.conf. I boot up GDM and I get error from Xorg that the Nvidia drivers in use are different version than something somewhere. Please help me.
[02:53] <frogzoo> profoX: worst case as long as the card has a linux driver - you compile/install the driver from source
[02:54] <AcidUK> Hi, i'm in a bit of a pickle. The nvidia drivers dont seem to support tvout properly, as the same config that works for vesa just shows a grey screen for them. This wouldnt be a problem but its a mythtv box, and I kinda need the video acceleration. Any suggestions?
[02:54] <iwkse> have you heard about RG?? http://www.windowscrash.com/albums/movies/windows_rg.swf
[02:54] <profoX> frogzoo: okay but most scsi drives should work out of the box?
[02:54] <czr> how to detect whether a system is ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu, and where to get the release name? any ideas? (in a script)
[02:55] <noelferreira> people
[02:55] <noelferreira> anyone knows why firefox won't start in edgy?
[02:55] <frogzoo> profoX: nope - only if there's a driver for the scsi card - you best check before you get the scsi card
[02:55] <m3m0r3xXx> m3m
[02:55] <vincent_wang> after I reinstalled windows xp, I can not install grub into MBR(getting Error 12 al the time), anyone can help?
[02:55] <m3m0r3xXx> ops :D
[02:55] <hastesaver> frogzoo, thanks, that takes care of the volume bar (or whatever it's called) in the panel. Do you know what to do with my keyboard's buttons?
[02:55] <Vorbote> czr: /etc/lsb-release
[02:56] <Aldoliel> czr, The desktop layout will tell you whether it's k/x/ubuntu
[02:56] <vincent_wang> I pasted the error output at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1838889#post1838889
[02:56] <czr> Aldoliel, to a script? :-)
[02:56] <fuci> Can someone help me? I've installed Nvidia drivers (twice, apparently..) and tried to remove them, did that and installed and enabled the drivers in my xorg.conf. I boot up GDM and I get error from Xorg that the Nvidia drivers in use are different version than something somewhere. Please help me.
[02:56] <profoX> frogzoo: its for a friend of mine so i don't know what scsi drive he has..
[02:56] <Aldoliel> Oh, sorry
[02:56] <czr> Vorbote, thanks, just what I needed :-)
[02:56] <frogzoo> hastesaver: sounds like you want to change the keybindings for metacity - go to system -> gconf editor & look under metacity
[02:56] <noelferreira> firefox won't start. no output from terminal. any help?
[02:56] <czr> since when has /etc/lsb-release existed, any ideas Vorbote?
[02:57] <frogzoo> profoX: well finding make & model is step #1
[02:57] <frogzoo> profoX: the drive isn't the problem, the scsi controller though is
[02:57] <Vorbote> czr: since ubuntu applied for LSB certification. Since Hoary I think
[02:57] <czr> Vorbote, cool, you're a star
[02:58] <stefg> noelferreira: Try a fresh profile. run 'firefox --profilemanager' from a term and create a new profile, then start firefox with it.
[02:58] <profoX> frogzoo: ok i'll ask him.. anyway to check what kind of scsi controller it is in win xp or the bios ?
[02:58] <frogzoo> profoX: in XP it will be under device manager
[02:58] <Vorbote> czr: do note that it may be even warty... Debian has got lsb config files for a long time.
[02:58] <profoX> frogzoo: thanks.. i'll ask him
[02:59] <hastesaver> frogzoo, ugh. gconf-editor is awful. I can't find it there :-(
[02:59] <noelferreira> stefg: nothing happens process goes to sleep
[02:59] <dbe> Is it safe to run CVS as root?
[02:59] <czr> Vorbote, good to know. I'll check for the existance first then
[02:59] <czr> writing a small tool to collect hw-data relevant for I/O benchmarking
[03:00] <czr> and getting the distroname/release would be nice (now it shows debian for ubuntu)
[03:00] <stefg> noelferreira: then something serious might be broken... i'd try 'sudo aptitude install --reinstall firefox' next
[03:00] <frogzoo> hastesaver: my bad - try prefs -> keyboard shortcuts
[03:00] <noelferreira> nothing stefg i tried it before
[03:01] <noelferreira> i guess it is even more serious
[03:01] <noelferreira> i can't run thunderbird as well stefg
[03:02] <stefg> noelferreira: then tar and zip  your .mozilla* directories and delete the originals in your homedir.
[03:02] <noelferreira> i tried it also stefg
[03:02] <fuci> Can someone help me? I've installed Nvidia drivers (twice, apparently..) and tried to remove them, did that and installed and enabled the drivers in my xorg.conf. I boot up GDM and I get error from Xorg that the Nvidia drivers in use are different version than something somewhere. Please help me.
[03:02] <noelferreira> no luck
[03:02] <dreamer> hmm, I can't play m4a, what do I need to play those files ?
[03:02] <DARKGuy> nothlit: how do I pm you in irssi?
[03:02] <gladi2k> Hi guys
[03:03] <gladi2k> I can not change the screen resolution
[03:03] <gladi2k> I tried to edit the xorg.conf and so on but it still doesn't work
[03:03] <dreamer> DARKGuy: use /msg user -text-
[03:03] <stefg> noelferreira: hmmm, then i run out of ideas.. would be worth finding out if it's bad user settings, or if the files in /usr/lib/firefox  are broken
[03:03] <DARKGuy> dreamer: thanks :)
[03:04] <gladi2k> can anybody help me?
[03:04] <Zaggynl> ugh, a reboot of X is all that was needed ><
[03:04] <alecjw> ive just got twinview working, but it's treating my CRT as my primart monitor rather than my DFP, does anyone know how to fix this?
[03:04] <frogzoo> gladi2k: after you edit xorg.conf, you must restart x
[03:04] <Zaggynl> the standard hotkey app of gnome messes up all the keybindings
[03:05] <Arin> hello, anyone could give a hint why kaffeine shows blue screen when playing movies?
[03:05] <mtx> can someone help to install cinelerra please?
[03:05] <Arin> i googled about it and found two reasons
[03:05] <Arin> either video card or codecs
[03:05] <Arin> like kaffeine can not see codecs
[03:06] <gladi2k> yes okay but I'm still having problems
[03:06] <frogzoo> Zaggynl: file a bug
[03:06] <hastesaver> frogzoo, no, I don't see anything there that would help me. Basically, the keyboard volume buttons are already working, but they act on Master, not on PCM. How do I change this?
[03:06] <Zaggynl> frogzoo, It's alread reported =)
[03:06] <gladi2k> when I go to system -> screen resolution. I get only 1280x768 displayed
[03:06] <Arin> anyone with a clue what for to google about to get this straight ?
[03:06] <gladi2k> and it should be 1280x1024 and that's what I entered
[03:06] <stefg> mtx: you might have better luck to join a #cinelerra channel if there is one (which i don't know)
[03:07] <frogzoo> Zaggynl: cool
[03:07] <dreamer> that sucks .. try a lower refresh-rate for your menitor gladi2k
[03:07] <frogzoo> hastesaver: oh, no don't know how to do that
[03:07] <gladi2k> I tried 60hz and 75hz I think that's not the problem
[03:07] <storkme> how can i mount something as a regular user without putting it in /etc/fstab.. or furthermore how could i mount it as root but make it readable+writable by the normal user?
[03:08] <gladi2k> but why does it display in 1280x768? I didn't even enter that mode in xorg.conf
[03:08] <gladi2k> it says Modes		"1280x1024"
[03:08] <gladi2k> and nothing else. I deleted the rest
[03:08] <frogzoo> storkme: set the 'user' or 'users' option in fstab
[03:08] <storkme> frogzoo, i can't put it in fstab.. i said
[03:09] <gladi2k> and in front of the hz number there is a minus :(
[03:09] <frogzoo> storkme: why can't you put it in fstab? if you haven't got root access, you can't do this
[03:09] <Locutu5> Does anyone know about a bug with smbldap and chown on ubuntu server?
[03:09] <storkme> frogzoo, if i put it in fstab it crashes on logon
[03:10] <frogzoo> storkme: remove the 'auto' option, so it has to be manually mounted
[03:10] <Locutu5> I cant find anything about it with google or forums
[03:10] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows a way to lower the volume with rhytmbox with the terminal? Right now I can only set it to a certain amount with 'rhythmbox --set-volume 0.8', and I want to turn it down by a bit with every keypress
[03:11] <Donald1> Azureus starts up but shuts down a second after, when I start it with the terminal, I get a long error message
[03:11] <storkme> frogzoo, what do the <dump> and <pass> bits mean in /etc/fstab?
[03:12] <alecjw> ive just got twinview working, but it's treating my CRT as my primary monitor rather than my DFP, does anyone know how to fix this?
[03:12] <gladi2k> hey guys I need help!
[03:12] <romulo> hi, how i reinstall an already installed package?
[03:12] <Locutu5> we all do,
[03:12] <hastesaver> Zaggynl, wow, "--set-volume" doesn't work either for me. What are you using?
[03:12] <Stork> ok i will man fstab
[03:12] <Locutu5> apt-get reinstall
[03:13] <romulo> invalid operation reinstall
[03:13] <Zaggynl> hastesaver, rhythmbox in dapper
[03:13] <frogzoo> Stork: man fstab
[03:13] <Zaggynl> 'rhythmbox --set-volume 0.1' works fine here
[03:13] <renjith171> i installed firefox 2 in dapperdrake now how shud make it available in my panel or in d application menu
[03:13] <Zaggynl> I just want to turn it down by a step, not just set it
[03:14] <hastesaver> Zaggynl, and this feature was removed in edgy?!
[03:14] <Locutu5> romulo: aptitude reinstall
[03:14] <romulo> great thanks
[03:14] <romulo> =)
[03:14] <romulo> worked
[03:14] <Zaggynl> hastesaver, can you try 'rhythmbox --volume-down' for me?
[03:14] <Zaggynl> I see that popping up on google
[03:14] <Locutu5> wlcm
[03:14] <Zaggynl> doesn't work with my dapper version
[03:15] <Donald1> hey, i have a problem with azureus, when i launch it, it starts up correctly but shuts down the minute after, it's not a problem with Java as I reinstalled it...what should i do?
[03:15] <hastesaver> Zaggynl, you could set it once, write the set value to a file, and write a script which takes the current volume level from the file, calculate the new value to set, and set it
[03:15] <misc--> http://rafb.net/paste/results/AaZW7185.html if anyone wants to help - using ubuntu, postfix delivers to dspam which delivers back to postfix however I'm getting no header or signature information in the email being sent
[03:15] <Zaggynl> hastesaver, yeah I thought about that too, it's dirty though <:
[03:15] <gladi2k> no one can help me in here :(
[03:15] <hastesaver> Zaggynl, no it doesn't work for me. The default rhythmbox on edgy doesn't seem to have *any* features for manipulating an existing rhythmbox
[03:16] <Zaggynl> gladi2k, just ask the question in here :-)
[03:16] <hastesaver> GNOME seems to be all about taking away options and features.
[03:16] <Sotai> Is there a ubuntu utility that reconfigures your xorg.conf for you?
[03:16] <gladi2k> yeah the screen resolution is messed up
[03:16] <Zaggynl> hastesaver, what does 'rhythmbox --help' for you?
[03:16] <gladi2k> it says 1280x768
[03:16] <Sotai> I've managed to destroy mine
[03:16] <gladi2k> but I entered 1280x1024
[03:16] <Donald1>  hey, i have a problem with azureus, when i launch it, it starts up correctly but shuts down the minute after, it's not a problem with Java as I reinstalled it...what should i do?
[03:16] <nothlit> GNOME is designed for the nontechy that asks whether the trash can is real, prevents confusion
[03:16] <Locutu5> dpkg-reconfigure
[03:16] <starman_> hi
[03:17] <Zaggynl> gladi2k, check your xorg.conf with 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[03:17] <alecjw> ive just got twinview working, but it's treating my CRT as my primary monitor rather than my DFP, does anyone know how to fix this?
[03:17] <gladi2k> I checked it
[03:17] <stefg> Sotai: no.unfortunately not, but I'm looking for partners for my request to create one :-)
[03:17] <gladi2k> there is no 1280x768 entered!
[03:17] <Zaggynl> odd
[03:17] <gladi2k> where does Ubuntu get this strange resolution from?
[03:17] <noelferreira> why can't i run firefox? any help?
[03:18] <hastesaver> Zaggynl, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35177/
[03:18] <Zaggynl> hastesaver,  woot, thanks :D
[03:18] <Donald1>  hey, i have a problem with azureus, when i launch it, it starts up correctly but shuts down the minute after, it's not a problem with Java as I reinstalled it and I get a weird message in the terminal...what should i do?
[03:18] <Zaggynl> hastesaver, try ' -help-all '
[03:18] <Locutu5> to reconfigure your xorg use dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[03:19] <Zaggynl> Donald1, I'm not an Azureus person and use utorrent with wine, you gave that a try?
[03:19] <Sotai> stefg: Hehe, I normally use gentoo and I'm not that experienced in linux/mega-low-level programming =)
[03:19] <Donald1> Zaggynl: i'm really not familiar with wine, as i have absolutely no idea how it works :p
[03:20] <hastesaver> Zaggynl, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35178/
[03:20] <Zaggynl> Donald1, it's pretty easy actually, try installing it, then download utorrent.exe, browse to it's directory with the terminal and type 'wine utorrent.exe'
[03:21] <hastesaver> Donald1, search Synaptic for bittorrent for alternatives to Azureus :-)
[03:21] <gladi2k> damn nothing works!
[03:21] <Zaggynl> hastesaver, indeed, it doesn't appear to be there, or we're looking at the wrong section of the help
[03:21] <hastesaver> gladi2k, I assume you've already read http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto ?
[03:22] <starman_> I have noticed my system has same modules information in two different directories /etc/modprobe.d and /etc/modutils
[03:22] <hastesaver> Zaggynl, I guess this is a warning to never upgrade to Edgy :-)
[03:22] <Zaggynl> Well, since edgy is cutting edge/beta, I'll stick to stable dapper :)
[03:22] <gladi2k> hastesaver: yes, but I'll try to read it again
[03:22] <starman_> which modules are loaded in the boot the ones in modprobe.d or in modutils?
[03:23] <hastesaver> Zaggynl, no, edgy is Ubuntu's latest *stable* release (since October)
[03:23] <raghu206> does anyone help me regarding jdbc :)
[03:23] <Zaggynl> hastesaver, as they say :(
[03:24] <Zaggynl> but it doesn't have LTS support does it?
[03:24] <noelferreira> help please. firefox won't start. http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/2s7BaV68.html
[03:24] <alecjw> ive just got twinview working, but it's treating my CRT as my primary monitor rather than my DFP, does anyone know how to fix this?
[03:25] <starman_> the files blacklist in /etc/modprobe.d are loaded or are kept from being load?
[03:25] <hastesaver> Zaggynl, it will be supported for the usual 18 months, IIRC. (Dapper for 3 years.)
[03:25] <allah_the_Mercif> does anyone know a program to crack wep encryption
[03:25] <starman_> aircrack
[03:25] <nothlit> 5 years for server
[03:25] <allah_the_Mercif> my friend was telling me about one and said to check here
[03:25] <Zaggynl> hmm
[03:25] <allah_the_Mercif> is it in the repo's starman?
[03:25] <nothlit> i don't think ubuntu support encryption cracking
[03:25] <starman_> nope
[03:25] <starman_> not that I know
[03:25] <noelferreira> help please. firefox won't start. http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/2s7BaV68.html
[03:25] <Aldoliel> aircrack is in the repos
[03:26] <Zaggynl> allah_the_Mercif, kismet, cain & abel
[03:26] <Zaggynl> but the latter is for win32 afaik
[03:26] <starman_> however allah_the_Mercif
[03:26] <starman_> in my case I had to comment out some stuff in the wifi card driver
[03:26] <Mane> Hell together. Need help with my Intel Pro Wireless 2100. Private Message please
[03:26] <Donald1> Zaggynl: i installed wine and created a .wine directory, now i download utorrent from the website?
[03:26] <allah_the_Mercif> you guys know a site off hand for wifi cracking?
[03:27] <Zaggynl> Donald1, yeah
[03:27] <lazka> hi, does someone know a little bit python, i ve got a question about lists
[03:27] <starman_> I think the same one from aircrack
[03:27] <hastesaver> allah_the_Mercif, aircrack *is* in the repos, whatever it is
[03:27] <starman_> has a very interesting guide
[03:27] <Zaggynl> Donald1, apart from some minor quirks, utorrent works pretty well
[03:27] <starman_> I would visit it, it even tells you about interesting methods
[03:27] <noelferreira> firefox won't start . please i need help .   http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/2s7BaV68.html
[03:28] <allah_the_Mercif> k hastesaver thanks
[03:28] <AcidUK> I need to install an older version of the nvidia drivers, is that possible?
[03:28] <|thunder> yep
[03:28] <|thunder> there are lots of tutorials. especially for ubuntu
[03:29] <AcidUK> I meant is it possible using apt? I'd rather not use the nvidia installer
[03:29] <AcidUK> ok
[03:29] <allah_the_Mercif> is there a program that can give you an idea of where wifi hotspots are?
[03:29] <nothlit> utorrent works great
[03:29] <starman_> does anyone know if the blacklist files in /etc/modprobe.d have modules that are not to be loaded??
[03:29] <allah_the_Mercif> i have like seven networks in my neighborhood but all slightly out of reach
[03:29] <umer> i cannot able connect gaim
[03:29] <nothlit> the tray icon doesn't support transparency though, i recommend compiling alltray and using that instead
[03:29] <allah_the_Mercif> is ther ea program that can like make a map of hotspots or something
[03:29] <starman_> allah_the_Mercif, you can check if you can crack yours, which is not illegal
[03:29] <allah_the_Mercif> so i have a basic idea of which way to go
[03:30] <starman_> and learn about it and how to protect your network
[03:30] <|thunder> nothlit; you usewin32  utorrent with wine ?
[03:30] <Donald1> Zaggynl: now that torrent is downloaded, what do i do?
[03:30] <alecjw> ive just got twinview working, but it's treating my CRT as my primary monitor rather than my DFP, does anyone know how to fix this?
[03:30] <nothlit> |thunder, yeah
[03:30] <|thunder> nothlit; me too. works OK
[03:30] <nothlit> |thunder, you need a bash script for integration though
[03:30] <Zaggynl> Donald1, browse to the directory it is in with a terminal, and type 'wine utorrent.exe'
[03:30] <|thunder> nothlit; how so ?
[03:30] <nothlit> |thunder, its in the forums somewhere
[03:31] <Zaggynl> You have to manuall add torrents though
[03:31] <Zaggynl> *manually
[03:31] <nothlit> |thunder, loading of torrents from webbrowser/clicking :)
[03:31] <hastesaver_> Donald1, but I think it will be easier to install other Linux programs that are in the repos instead of Windows programs through wine.
[03:31] <|thunder> ahh
[03:31] <nothlit> Zaggynl, no you just use the bash script from the ubuntu forums :)
[03:31] <Zaggynl> hastesaver, meh, so far I haven't found anything as feature rich and light as utorrent
[03:31] <|thunder> nothlit; I use NetMeter and PokerStart regularly too. and photoshop7 in cxoffice.
[03:32] <|thunder> *poker stars
[03:32] <eyalw> hi
[03:32] <Zaggynl> nothlit, -the- bash script?
[03:32] <Donald1> Zaggynl: It's on the desktop, so i just type desktop on the terminal?
[03:32] <eyalw> I tried fixing the no sound in flash-firefox issue on my ubuntu by switching to alsa-oss
[03:32] <|thunder> THE bash script
[03:32] <allah_the_Mercif> thanks for you help guys
[03:32] <noelferreira> firefox won't start . please i need help .   http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/2s7BaV68.html
[03:32] <eyalw> didnt work for me, any udea?
[03:32] <allah_the_Mercif> much appreciated
[03:32] <nothlit> netmeter? is that a networking tool
[03:32] <allah_the_Mercif> ta ta 4now
[03:32] <AcidUK> one last question, I tried to get the kernel source, but the package kernel-source is a completely different version
[03:32] <AcidUK> to the one running
[03:32] <Zaggynl> Donald1, like this: 'cd ~Desktop'
[03:32] <Zaggynl> then 'wine utorrent.exe'
[03:32] <nothlit> |thunder, linux has lots of network monitors
[03:33] <|thunder> netmeter is exactly that. a network interface meter/graph.
[03:33] <noelferreira> firefox won't start . please i need help .   http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/2s7BaV68.html
[03:33] <Zaggynl> also, right clicking utorrent.exe and selecting run with Wine should work
[03:33] <nothlit> |thunder, i only use utorrent
[03:33] <umer> how can i use yahoo messenger in ubuntu
[03:33] <|thunder> There are none like netmeter.
[03:33] <Zaggynl> netlimiter?
[03:33] <|thunder> umer; try gaim
[03:33] <umer> ok
[03:33] <Donald1> Hastesaver: when i searched the synaptics for bittorrent clients, it didnt give me anything
[03:33] <eyalw> can anyone help me with my no sound on flash issue?
[03:33] <hastesaver_> Donald1, search for bittorrent.
[03:34] <nothlit> Donald1, aptitude search ~dbittorrent
[03:34] <noelferreira> firefox won't start . please i need help .   http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/2s7BaV68.html
[03:34] <Zaggynl> nothlit, which bash script?
[03:34] <|thunder> eyalw; i have same. no you tube, but works on google.
[03:34] <hastesaver_> noelferreira, and what does it give without the "-g"?
[03:34] <eyalw> |thunder: thats not a solution...
[03:34] <jrib> !flash | eyalw, |thunder
[03:34] <ubotu> eyalw, |thunder: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:34] <noelferreira> nothing hastesaver. process goest to sleep
[03:34] <Donald1> nothlit: thanx!
[03:34] <AcidUK> is there an easy way to grab the source for my current kernel version? (2.6.17-10-generic)
[03:34] <dou213> hey, i have vmware server and receive an error when trying to power on FreeBSD: "Could not CreateProcess: Failed to logon to specified account for VM". what can be the problem?
[03:35] <jrib> eyalw, |thunder: try using aoss as the restriced wiki explains
[03:35] <|thunder> at least there will be a fully working flash10 released in 3 or 4 months.
[03:35] <eyalw> ubotu: I've installed these formats
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I've installed these formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <eyalw> jrib: i have switched to aoss and the problem remains
[03:35] <soweto76> Fonts in Picasa menus are too small.  Can this be adjusted?  (edgy eft0
[03:35] <umer> when i sign in  gain how can i connect yahoo messenger
[03:36] <jrib> eyalw: are you using flash7?
[03:36] <Vorbote> soweto76: probably editing picasa's private wine registry.
[03:36] <eyalw> jrib: I just want to be able to listen to videos on YouTube.com
[03:36] <nothlit> why are people installing picasa instead of fspot
[03:36] <jrib> eyalw: right, and these questions will help me help you do that
[03:36] <eyalw> jrib: i'm not sure what version their player is
[03:36] <noelferreira> firefox won't start . please i need help .   http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/2s7BaV68.html
[03:37] <jrib> eyalw: ok, how did you install flash?
[03:37] <eyalw> jrib: I've installed the Firefox-flash plugin,
[03:37] <jimmy_T> yeah how do you install flash iv been having the same prob
[03:37] <soweto76> nothlit: I am comparing F-Spot and Picasa
[03:37] <Vorbote> nothlit: because the latest versions (not included in edgy, btw) support direct upload to picasaweb.
[03:37] <eyalw> jrib: ff did all the work for me
[03:38] <jrib> eyalw: http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/about/ what version does it say you have
[03:38] <Locutu5> I am having ldap problems. Is anyone able to help?
[03:39] <ernz> Can someone please tell me how to get the 2048x1024 resolution working on my Nvidia Ubuntu setup?
[03:39] <Panoramix_Miracu> oh this is nice, xchat-gnome automatically joins here
[03:39] <soweto76> Vorbote: Are you serious about editing  Picasa2 "registry"?
[03:39] <eyalw> jrib: it dosent say
[03:39] <jrib> !fixres | ernz
[03:39] <ubotu> ernz: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:39] <ernz> Cheers jrib
[03:40] <eyalw> jrib: there's this version info box, and its blank
[03:40] <Panoramix_Miracu> anyone know if i can change the nick list box display on xchat-gnome to look like in xchat?
[03:40] <Panoramix_Miracu> ie, display it on the right side?
[03:40] <jrib> eyalw: strange, what does about:plugins say about flash?
[03:41] <defrysk> Panoramix_Miracu, sudo apt-get remove xchat-gnome && sudo apt-get install xchat
[03:41] <eyalw> jrib: u]  rob:
[03:41] <defrysk> Panoramix_Miracu, that was a joke
[03:41] <Panoramix_Miracu> ahahah
[03:41] <czr> vorbote, thanks for the /etc/lsb-release tip. however, is there are way to differentiate between kubuntu/xubuntu/ubuntu? it just reads Ubuntu here
[03:41] <eyalw> jrib: Shockwave Flash 7.0 r68
[03:41] <mo> when i open a window (maybe when i click on my gaim-trayicon to open the contact list), the windows opens in the background. how can i open windows in the frint by default?
[03:42] <Panoramix_Miracu> i was actually thinking of doing that :p
[03:42] <mo> (i use beryl!)
[03:42] <defrysk> Panoramix_Miracu, but xchat-gnome is butt-ugly imho
[03:42] <jrib> eyalw: ok close all your firefox window and run 'aoss firefox'.  Visit http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/, do you hear an annoying song?
[03:42] <Panoramix_Miracu> does xchat require anything fancy to run on gnome?
[03:42] <defrysk> Panoramix_Miracu, nope
[03:42] <nass> hello
[03:43] <vinicri> it's a dumb question, but trying to execute a windows aplication with wine, the expression "Program Files" either "Program%20Files" didn't work. what is the correct?
[03:43] <IndyGUnFreak> just open a terminal
[03:43] <jrib> vinicri: if you put the whole path in quotes it will work.  or:  Program\ Files
[03:43] <IndyGUnFreak> and type wine "/path to file/name.exe"
[03:43] <eyalw> jrib: no
[03:43] <Panoramix_Miracu> another question: why doesnt ubuntu see me ntfs partition? its on a sata hd, is that an unsupported feature?
[03:43] <IndyGUnFreak> make sure you use the quotes
[03:44] <vinicri> thx
[03:44] <jrib> Panoramix_Miracu: is it listed when you type 'sudo fdisk -l'?
[03:44] <nass> I need help : I would like to burn a .bin/cue DVD image, but can not find any software that can do that under Ubuntu. Does anyone know how to do ?
[03:44] <IndyGUnFreak> that should work,
[03:45] <Panoramix_Miracu> jrib: yeah it does
[03:45] <jrib> !ntfs | Panoramix_Miracu
[03:45] <ubotu> Panoramix_Miracu: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:45] <eyalw> jrib: ?? it dosent play the sound
[03:45] <Panoramix_Miracu> thx :)
[03:45] <linuxpowaa> hola
[03:46] <jrib> eyalw: do you have anything else playing sound?
[03:46] <linuxpowaa> hola gente :)
[03:46] <eyalw> jrib: amarok is open, yet is not playing...
[03:46] <linuxpowaa> hi people
[03:46] <dou213> in vmware server,i receive an error when trying to power on the virtual machine for FreeBSD: "Could not CreateProcess: Failed to logon to specified account for VM". what can be the problem?
[03:47] <Mane> Hi together. Need help with my Intel Pro Wireless 2100. Private Message please
[03:47] <dou213> i already googled it, didn't found anything
[03:47] <Donald1> i installed torrentflux through the synaptic but now i have no idea where its gone :s
[03:47] <jrib> eyalw: hmm idk, you could try using flash9 beta
[03:47] <dter> Donald: try typing torrentflux in terminal?
[03:48] <Donald1> dter: i did already but i doesnt find it :S
[03:48] <kaushal> Hi ALL
[03:48] <dreamer> hmm, my pc can't read my swap-space ..
[03:48] <dter> Donald1: what does it say?
[03:48] <eyalw> jrib: I hear that this flash sound problem is common, isn't switching to alsa spose to solve this pickle?
[03:48] <jrib> eyalw: yes it is
[03:48] <Donald1> dter: bash: torrentflux: command not found
[03:48] <kaushal> I am Kaushal Shriyan working for AOL India as Tech Support Engineer in Bangalore
[03:48] <eyalw> jrib: maybe reboot will help?
[03:48] <dter> Eyalw: tbh, I sometimes lose my sound in firefox, but opera works fine though
[03:49] <dter> Eyalw: with flash
[03:49] <kaushal> I am RHCE with 100% Marks
[03:49] <jrib> eyalw: you can try, but doubtful
[03:49] <kaushal> I am looking out for a change to work for ubuntu
[03:49] <humbolt> does anybody know if XEN is well supported in edgy?
[03:49] <eyalw> dter: firefox is my favorite...
[03:49] <Locutu5> kaushal: do you know about ldap?
[03:49] <eyalw> jrib: ill try...
[03:50] <kaushal> Hi Locustu5
[03:50] <kaushal> yes
[03:50] <dter> eyalw: Im not saying opera is better though, but in opera flash works fine whereas firefox sometimes drops sound
[03:50] <eyalw> jrib: brb
[03:50] <J-_> Anyone know the URl to the Ubuntu LAMP server setup?
[03:50] <aqualuk> hi
[03:50] <dter> hello
[03:50] <jrib> !lamp | J-_
[03:50] <ubotu> J-_: lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[03:50] <Locutu5> kaushal: hi, good I have an ubuntu ldap problem
[03:50] <J-_> thanks
[03:50] <neemzlappy> hey folks, i've compiled the 2.6.19 kernel which resolved my booting problems, but I cannot seem to compile the ipw3945 driver against it
[03:50] <eyalw> dter: that is clear, but to any problem there's a solution
[03:51] <eyalw> dter: brb
[03:51] <Panoramix_Miracu> okey, one last question
[03:51] <Panoramix_Miracu> im on x86-64
[03:51] <Locutu5> I installed ldap and configured it but when the computer boots chown does not work with numeric ids
[03:51] <dter> eylaw: yep, I really have no clue, I think its the flash plugin though
[03:51] <Panoramix_Miracu> the boot screen is black and white
[03:51] <Panoramix_Miracu> is that expected?
[03:51] <dter> eyalw: ^ *
[03:51] <Donald1> dter: any help?
[03:51] <dter> Donaldl: Nope
[03:51] <Panoramix_Miracu> oh edgy eft btw.
[03:52] <Panoramix_Miracu> it was fine on dapper.
[03:52] <Donald1> dter: thanx anyhow
[03:52] <[99ers] Dragon06> did'nt happen with me
[03:52] <kaushal> Locutu5 whats the command you give
[03:52] <Donald1> does anyone have any idea where my torrentflux, installed with the synaptic might have gone?
[03:53] <Panoramix_Miracu> Donald1: /usr/bin/torrentflux ?
[03:53] <dter> Donald1: try 'man fluxtorrent'
[03:53] <anschel> the vmware server install script always crashes can someone help me?
[03:53] <Locutu5> kaushal: there is no command. ldap seems to be working correctly and any command gives the expected results
[03:53] <Donald1> dter: there's no manual entry for flux torrent
[03:54] <kuririn> hello
[03:54] <appletree> hi2all
[03:54] <Black^Dragon> good morning
[03:54] <DARKGuy> Mornin'
[03:54] <dter> Donald1: try 'sudo apt-get remove fluxtorrent' and then 'sudo apt-get install fluxtorrent'
[03:54] <kuririn> can you help me to get working a usb wifi device?
[03:54] <Locutu5> kaushal: but when chown is run eg. chown 0 somefile. it hangs but if you chown root somefile it works instantly
[03:54] <anschel> the vmware server installer says I gave it the wrong path to init when i just leave the defaults
[03:55] <kuririn> it's a netgear usb pen drive, ma111, supported under linux-wlan-ng
[03:55] <Donald1> dter: it keeps saying that it can't find the package!
[03:55] <dter> Donald1: if it cant then its not installed.
[03:55] <dter> Donald1: you got all repos enabled?
[03:56] <Donald1> dter: it says it when i try installing it...
[03:56] <Locutu5> kaushal: it seems private messages are blocked for me
[03:56] <Donald1> dter: how do i see if my repos are enabled?
[03:56] <showtime> i've got a problem my radeon x600 dosen't work correctly someone know why?
[03:56] <dter> Donald1: comment out all lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:57] <anschel> Donald1: he meant uncomment
[03:57] <dter> my bad
[03:57] <Donald1> dter: it denies permission!
[03:57] <showtime> i've got a problem my radeon x600 dosen't work correctly someone know why?
[03:57] <dter> Donald1: sudo...
[03:57] <kuririn> can you help me with linux-wlan-ng?
[03:57] <eyalw> jrib: now i dont have sound at all
[03:57] <eyalw> jrib: :(
[03:58] <Donald1> dter: yeah i know, i just forgot :p
[03:58] <jrib> eyalw: type 'alsamixer' and make sure nothing is muted
[03:58] <eyalw> jrib: have done that
[03:58] <eyalw> jrib: but im not sure, some values are 0, and spose to be left that way
[03:58] <showtime> i've got a problem my radeon x600 dosen't work correctly someone know why?
[03:58] <jrib> eyalw: master and PCM?
[03:59] <eyalw> jrib: let me check
[03:59] <Donald1> dter: it doesnt find the command
[03:59] <woyceck> hello and nice day
[03:59] <dter> Donald1: what desktop enviorment do you use?
[03:59] <Donald1> dter: ubuntu Edgy
[03:59] <eyalw> jrib: nope, master and pcm are 81%
[03:59] <Xteven> how do I change the virtual resolution of xorg ?
[03:59] <Xteven> I don't even know why it uses a virtual res
[04:00] <dter> Donald1: desktop enviorment, gnome/kde/xfce?
[04:00] <woyceck> i have a little question about packagemanagement
[04:00] <Donald1> dter: oh sorry, Gnome
[04:00] <showtime> i've got a problem my radeon x600 dosen't work correctly someone know why?
[04:00] <kuririn> can you help me with linux-wlan-ng?
[04:00] <Donald1> showtime: did you dowload the drivers?
[04:00] <showtime> yes i did
[04:01] <senator^> When I try to install Ubuntu I get alot of error messages like this one "[  280.103899]  Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 4"... What is wrong?
[04:01] <Donald1> showtime: then i can't help you....:p
[04:01] <showtime> ok thx
[04:01] <dter> Donald1: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:01] <greenglyph> Could someone help me out with a .run file?
[04:01] <showtime> thats a good question
[04:01] <jrib> greenglyph: what is it a .run file for?
[04:01] <Donald1> dter: ok it opened a new window
[04:02] <greenglyph> A demo installer for a game.
[04:02] <dter> Donald1: with text in it?
[04:02] <showtime> i've got a run file for ut99
[04:02] <Donald1> dter: yep
[04:02] <gnomefreak> greenglyph: sh file.run
[04:02] <fnf> senator^: Verify that the CD or your CD drive or intact.
[04:02] <greenglyph> thanks
[04:02] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:03] <fnf> senator^: *is
[04:03] <senator^> fnf?
[04:03] <eyalw> jrib: ?
[04:03] <dter> Donald1: every line with '#' in front of it, delete the '#' (uncomment)
[04:03] <dter> Donald1: then save and try it again
[04:03] <dreamer> how can I activate my swap again? gparted says it's not active, so that's why top nays I have no swap atm
[04:03] <jrib> eyalw: have you checked the obvious stuff like the connection to the speakers and their volume?
[04:03] <fnf> senator^: Did you test the install CD ? The drive might have a hard time reading it.
[04:03] <Donald1> dter: do i delete those with ##?
[04:03] <showtime> u need to write universe multiverse behind the links
[04:05] <dter> Donald1: you can try, make a backup: 'sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.listbackup'
[04:05] <senator^> fnf ok I will try that... thought that there something wrong with the harddrive... the cd disc worked on another computer... didnt expekt the cd-rom to be corrupted... will test it now
[04:05] <senator^> fnf thanks
[04:05] <eyalw> jrib: before the restart it all worked, the amarok played
[04:05] <fnf> senator^: Welcome :)
[04:05] <eyalw> jrib: and i checked it too
[04:05] <jrib> !sound | eyalw
[04:05] <ubotu> eyalw: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[04:06] <jrib> eyalw: I don't know much about sound but maybe those links can help you find the problem
[04:06] <showtime> does someone know how i can play ut99 on ubuntu
[04:06] <Donald1> dter: ok, done
[04:07] <dter> Donald1: now try 'sudo apt-get remove fluxtorrent' then 'sudo apt-get install fluxtorrent'
[04:07] <eyalw> ubotu: listen, before i installed alsa-oss it all worked, it must be related
[04:07] <ubotu> listen: A nice music player and manager for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.3-1 (edgy), package size 326 kB, installed size 1276 kB
[04:07] <Donald1> dter: ok
[04:07] <warepoju> ello
[04:07] <warepoju> hello
[04:08] <fnf> !Hi
[04:08] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:08] <senator^> does anyone know if ubuntu runs smooth or slow on a 200mhz computer... 16 or perheps 32 mb ram
[04:09] <Fackamato> err
[04:09] <Fackamato> NO.
[04:09] <Donald1> dter: god, now it says the /etc/apt/sources.list could not be read...
[04:09] <fer> hello
[04:09] <hastesaver__> senator^, I'm quite sure it will be very slow.
[04:09] <fer> can someones help me
[04:09] <hastesaver__> senator^, if it works at all
[04:09] <aeromix> !ssh
[04:09] <ubotu> ssh is ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto ). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:09] <jrib> !helpme | fer
[04:09] <ubotu> fer: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:09] <senator^> haste ok :)
[04:09] <dyland> there is a version of ubuntu, that run in lowest computers is ubuntu lite
[04:10] <fnf> senator^: A big part of Ubuntu is GNOME, which requires a moderate configuration (CPU > 500 MHz, 192MB RAM) to run acceptably, but the server installation is fine in yours.
[04:10] <senator^> dyland ok thanks
[04:10] <dter> Donald1: paste your sources.list on pastecode.com and give me the link
[04:10] <dyland> :)
[04:10] <fer> ok ,just trying install ati drivers but i need to be on super user on console i have no idea how to swich to this mode
[04:10] <Donald1> dter: ok
[04:10] <jrib> !ati | fer
[04:10] <ubotu> fer: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:10] <jrib> !sudo | fer
[04:10] <ubotu> fer: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:10] <Koos> I've configured X11 and the NVidia drivers to use twinspan, and now is my ubuntu very unstable... Does anyone know a solution?
[04:11] <senator^> dont you guys get tired of answering questions all the time? :)
[04:11] <fer> i mean how to swich
[04:11] <fer> when i on console
[04:11] <dreamer> Koos: I believe the nvidia-drivers are very unstable, don't use them
[04:11] <showtime> type su
[04:11] <fer> ok
[04:11] <fnf> senator^: 'cause we appreciate the developers.
[04:11] <Koos> dreamer: but how can I use twinspan without the drivers?
[04:11] <aeromix> !ssh
[04:11] <ubotu> ssh is ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto ). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:11] <drezha> nVidia drivers kept causing crashes on my 6.06 system
[04:11] <dreamer> Koos: try nv
[04:11] <senator^> so do I... wish I had the knowledge to help
[04:11] <senator^> dont know much about linux
[04:12] <Koos> dreamer: nv?
[04:12] <dreamer> Koos: I don't know, what is twinspan ?
[04:12] <aeromix> how am I to start sshd on my computer??
[04:12] <jrib> !ssh | aeromix
[04:12] <ubotu> aeromix: ssh is ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto ). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:12] <jrib> aeromix: just install openssh-server
[04:12] <Koos> dreamer: Euh.. using two monitors on your computer with one desktop...
[04:12] <dreamer> Koos: use as driver nv instead of nvidea
[04:12] <lostinc> If I want to add XFCE as a desktop to an Ubuntu install via synaptic what package/s do I need?
[04:12] <aeromix> jrib: I did. but I can't connect to it now...
[04:12] <jrib> lostinc: xubuntu-desktop
[04:12] <dreamer> ok, nv could work
[04:12] <dyland> I've bought a new computer with intel core 2 duo, but i cant install ubuntu edgy
[04:12] <fnf> senator^: I believe if you stick to the terminal, even in X, you'll surely become productive in a few weeks.
[04:13] <Koos> dreamer: can I safely remove the drivers?
[04:13] <dter> dyland: ...because?
[04:13] <aeromix> jrib: when I type ssh aeromix@10.0.0.1 I get no response
[04:13] <lostinc> Thank you.
[04:13] <dreamer> just edit your xorg.conf and replace nvidea with nv
[04:13] <Koos> dreamer: Really? :|
[04:13] <dreamer> them ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:13] <slop> i just installed dapper and now my 3d acceleration doesn't work....fglrxinfo is showing 'mesa' again....
[04:13] <senator^> fnf perhaps... I did use linux and bsd a few years ago but now I forgot most of it
[04:13] <slop> i mean edgy
[04:13] <slop> doh
[04:13] <dreamer> if it doesn't work replace nv with nvidea again
[04:13] <dreamer> Koos:  yup
[04:14] <fer> Password:
[04:14] <fer> su: Authentication failure
[04:14] <fer> Disculpe.
[04:14] <fer> fer@fer:~$
[04:14] <slop> and i didn't just install...i upgraded
[04:14] <fnf> senator^: So you got the base already :) Then man is your friend.
[04:14] <aeromix> jrib: I installed openssh-server. But it seems like it is not enabled?
[04:14] <Koos> dreamer: i can create a backup-file :)
[04:14] <fer> that's i am geting
[04:14] <fer> and i am presty sure thats is the pass
[04:14] <Koos> dreamer: thanks, let's give it a try :)
[04:14] <dreamer> Koos: nv should be alot more stable than nvidea, the nvidea-drivers make my X crash everytime after 2 hours af running :/
[04:14] <Kayiin> Doesn't su have null for a password by default?
[04:14] <Kayiin> And only sudo is enabled?
[04:15] <dreamer> Koos: sure, but it's not a big change, easy enough to change from the console
[04:15] <Koos> dreamer: Yup... especially when scrolling or using windows on monitor 2 =\
[04:15] <dreamer> I've never used 2 monitors on a linux-setup
[04:15] <Koos> dreamer: I love it :)
[04:15] <dreamer> try nv and see if it werks :)
[04:15] <cwillu> !kernel
[04:15] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:15] <Koos> i'' try
[04:15] <Koos> thanks :)
[04:15] <nothlit> Kayiin, su works fine, sudo su :P
[04:15] <dreamer> Koos: I have 2 monitors, but 2 different pc's :P
[04:16] <senator^> fnf hehe well when I used it was back in the time when windows was 95 or something like that... I got tired of windows... but XP is pretty ok. but now I did see ubuntu and it seemed so userfriendly that anyone could figure it out... so I wanted to try it
[04:16] <cwillu> I don't suppose there's a 2.6.18 kernel available for ubuntu prepackaged, is there?
[04:16] <dyland> 4dter i put the cd, and it starts to boot, but nothing, show a message like this: cant open tty, the job is closed
[04:16] <jrib> aeromix: does 'ssh localhost' work?
[04:16] <nothlit> Kayiin, thats not recommended of course, sudo -i  or sudo -s if you want to keep environment variables like $HOME and whatnot
[04:16] <showtime> ssh 127,0,0,1 works
[04:16] <Kayiin> Well, yeah.
[04:16] <Koos> dreamer: i've 2 pc's and one desktop... one is enough for me :P
[04:16] <dyland> sorry for my english
[04:16] <dyland> :)
[04:16] <Tailsfan> Does Ubuntu 6.10 include alsa and alsaconf installed already?
[04:16] <aeromix> jrib: yes
[04:17] <Koos> dreamer: I mean 2 servers ;)
[04:17] <devilsadvocate_> Tailsfan, yes
[04:17] <jrib> aeromix: then ssh is working.  Maybe you have a firewall?
[04:17] <Kayiin> Besides, if you need su for a while, you can just use sudo and you can sudo for the rest of that session without authentication.
[04:17] <aeromix> jrib: the problem is in the address probably. ping 10.0.0.1 isn't working as well...
[04:17] <Tailsfan> OK
[04:17] <fnf> senator^: Goodluck experimenting Ubuntu :) I'm sure if you got compatible hardware and good specs, it'll be really hard to comeback to Windoze. Beryl beats Vista's Areo horribly.
[04:17] <aeromix> jrib: but internet sharing works, I am now on laptop which is connected to desktop (10.0.0.1)
[04:18] <Koos> dreamer: do I need to install the drivers first?
[04:18] <dreamer> Koos: they should be installed default
[04:18] <dreamer> wait
[04:18] <showtime> when i look videos they are very slow in full scree does someone know why?
[04:18] <dreamer> run dpkg recanfigure, you should be able to choose them
[04:18] <yanger> anyone try compiz under ubuntu ;\ how can you tell if it's working or not?
[04:18] <Xteven> can someone help me with a monitor problem ?
[04:18] <dreamer> excuse my anoying typing :/
[04:18] <aeromix> jrib: do I need to allow ssh in firestarter? or sth like that?
[04:19] <jrib> aeromix: yeah, port 22
[04:19] <showtime> when i look videos they are very slow in full scree does someone know why?
[04:19] <Koos> dreamer: ok, i'll try. Thanks! :D
[04:19] <greenglyph> sh [file] .run gives 'syntax error "(" unexpected' can anyone help?
[04:19] <yanger> wow, all i notice is that re-drawing text takes along time now ;\
[04:19] <Donald1> dter: is there any problem?
[04:19] <aeromix> jrib: how can I do it?
[04:19] <senator^> fnf well I prefer bsd before linux, but this is for a friend that doesnt know much about computers so I thought I try to install ubuntu on hers computer... for my own personal use I need windows since there are alot of musicprograms for windows that are not for *nix and thats what I do for a living
[04:19] <showtime> when i look videos they are very slow in full scree does someone know why?
[04:19] <dter> Donald1: sorry?
[04:19] <jrib> aeromix: it's pretty straightforward, just run firestarter and allow connections to port 22
[04:20] <Donald1> dter: i PM-ed you the pastecode URL
[04:20] <dter> Donald1: Im on commandline IRC, please paste it here.
[04:20] <showtime> when i look videos they are very slow in full scree does someone know why?
[04:20] <Donald1> dter: ok so : http://www.pastecode.com/9282
[04:21] <kelbizzle> Pardon my ignorance. Which key is my "SUper Key" again?
[04:21] <tecloMacOSX> Oh crap, the apache packages on ubuntu suck donkey balls
[04:21] <dter> Donald1: one sec
[04:21] <aeromix> jrib: cool it works:) tnx
[04:21] <tecloMacOSX> Who the fuck made this packages ?
[04:21] <fnf> senator^: Did you try vmware or qemu for virtualization ?. To run an Windows app in Linux, there're wine but it's not really mature yet. vmplayer performs at almost native speed.
[04:21] <jrib> !language | tecloMacOSX
[04:21] <ubotu> tecloMacOSX: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:21] <dyland> Im sad, i cant install ubuntu on my new pc
[04:21] <dyland> :(
[04:21] <fer> ok it works
[04:21] <showtime> when i look videos they are very slow in full scree does someone know why?
[04:22] <fer> but whit windows run
[04:22] <dter> Donald1: whats that 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' doing in the file? and comment (#) the lines with the text in them, theyre not package sources
[04:22] <fer> on konsole it keep asking for bad pass
[04:22] <cwillu> ~beryl
[04:22] <Zac1> !torrent
[04:22] <kelbizzle> Pardon my ignorance. Which key is my "SUper Key" again?
[04:22] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[04:22] <cwillu> !beryl
[04:22] <fnf> !vmware | senator^
[04:22] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:22] <ubotu> senator^: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[04:22] <gOldZahN> hi folks! i'm reconfiguring my X and i've to chose my driver. is ati the best for my ati 9600 xt?
[04:22] <senator^> fnf I know there are windows emulators, but in my case its just easier to run windows directly and the softwares... :)
[04:23] <showtime> when i look videos they are very slow in full scree does someone know why?
[04:23] <senator^> but if I had a computer for amusement I would install bsd instead
[04:23] <fnf> senator^: I see...
[04:23] <bxnp> how can i change from kubuntu to ubuntu
[04:23] <kelbizzle> Pardon my ignorance. Which key is my "Super Key" again?
[04:23] <dter> Donald1: delete the 'sudo gedit...'-line and comment everything that doesnt start with 'deb'
[04:23] <Donald1> dter: i have no idea what sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list is doing in there
[04:23] <stepanstas> hey guys
[04:23] <showtime> when i look videos they are very slow in full scree does someone know why?
[04:24] <gOldZahN> hi folks! i'm reconfiguring my X and i've to chose my driver. is ati the best for my ati 9600 xt?
[04:24] <fer> the ati drivers installed ,do i need do a full rebot or just whit logout xwindows works?
[04:24] <stepanstas> i am having problems with firefox, when i go to most sites it shuts down. i have a feeling that this may do with a flash plugin that i downloaded, how do i remove it
[04:24] <showtime> when i look videos they are very slow in full scree does someone know why?
[04:25] <gOldZahN> hi folks! i'm reconfiguring my X and i've to chose my driver. is ati the best for my ati 9600 xt?
[04:25] <senator^> where can I find that unbuntu light version that dyland talked about? dont find it on ubuntus homepage
[04:25] <mirak> hi
[04:25] <dyland> ubuntu lite
[04:25] <mirak> is there a repository with kernel 2.6.19 for edgy ?
[04:25] <Fortis> Senator: Do you mean Xubuntu?
[04:25] <fer> i used atomatix last time and whit ati works finw
[04:25] <fer> fine
[04:25] <fnf> !ubuntulite
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntulite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <fnf> ubotu: Okay...
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Okay... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <jrib> stepanstas: try the workaround here and see if you are experiencing the same thing: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/14911
[04:26] <Donald1> dter: http://www.pastecode.com/9284
[04:26] <fnf> senator^: www.ubuntulite.org/
[04:26] <dter> Donald1: hold on
[04:26] <fer> now automatix2 dont have ati suport :(
[04:26] <senator^> fnf thanks :)
[04:26] <Donald1> dter: ok
[04:26] <fuffe> hey.. a question about gpl.. If you mistakly have added someones name as copyright in a file, is it ok to remove it?
[04:26] <devilsadvocate> senator^, are you used to the linux nvironmet?
[04:26] <fer> roobting
[04:26] <mirak> is there a repository with kernel 2.6.19 for edgy ?
[04:26] <dter> Donald: as I said, comment -every- line that doesnt start with 'deb'
[04:26] <gOldZahN> hi folks! i'm reconfiguring my X and i've to chose my driver. is ati the best for my ati 9600 xt?
[04:27] <showtime> i think ubuntu shouldn' be installed on a ati card
[04:27] <nothlit> fuffe if its your software you should be able to
[04:27] <senator^> devilsadvocate long time since I used linux know so I have forgot most of it... but I think If I install it and start use it I will figure it out again :)
[04:27] <dter> Donald1: thats 2, 3, 20
[04:27] <dter> g0ldZahN: frglx?
[04:27] <devilsadvocate> senator^, xubuntu has xfce which is a bit more... user frindly than icewm
[04:27] <gOldZahN> showtime, whY that?
[04:28] <gOldZahN> dter, frglx?
[04:28] <dter> showtime: I think ati cards shouldnt be used with linux =] 
[04:28] <senator^> devilsadvocate ok
[04:28] <showtime> i've got a ati too and just having problems
[04:28] <fuffe> nothlit, yes, because this person does have his copyright on some files in the project, but some he have the copyright but havn't edited anything in
[04:28] <dter> showtime: ATI drivers on linux suck
[04:29] <showtime> yes thats true
[04:29] <gOldZahN> :(
[04:29] <gOldZahN> i love ati :'(
[04:29] <showtime> i cant' watch videos correctly
[04:29] <Donald1> dter: done
[04:29] <senator^> devilsadvocate however this ubuntu installtion is for a friend of mine that needs a simple to use operating system not for me, and I saw that ubuntu was pretty easy to understand so I thought that would be perfect for her since I got the impression it was realted to debian that is the best linux dist I heard
[04:29] <dter> Donald1: show me what you did
[04:30] <davin^afk> afk
[04:30] <Donald1> http://www.pastecode.com/9285
[04:30] <devilsadvocate> senator^, then ubunutlite is NOT for that kind of use. It has all of the fat sliced off, and its built for efficiency instead of ease of use
[04:31] <EkUmBa> hello there
[04:31] <stepanstas> jrib, as far as i could tell, that post offers no solution, people are still having the problem.
[04:31] <devilsadvocate> senator^, best best would be ubuntu or kubuntu itself unless the hardware is _very_ old
[04:31] <spx2> hello all
[04:31] <davin^afk> Donald1: line 23, delete that space at the beginning
[04:31] <EkUmBa> does anyone know,how to download a flash movie from a page?
[04:31] <senator^> devilsadvocate ok I see...
[04:31] <davin^afk> Donald1: wait ill fix it
[04:31] <nothlit> fuffe oh, then you'll have to consult the gpl site or something
[04:31] <jrib> stepanstas: there are two solutions there, one is to make sure you are using 24bit depth, the other is to set some environment variable
[04:31] <Donald1> davin^afk: ok, that's nice of you
[04:31] <jrib> stepanstas: let me know if you can't find it, I'll take a look
[04:32] <davin^afk> Donald1: http://www.pastecode.com/9286
[04:32] <davin^afk> afk
[04:32] <senator^> devilsadvocate well thats the problem, its a 200mhz computer with 16 or 32mb ram... I was thinking of ubuntu or kubuntu but now I understand that they are slow on that computer so I think I will go with bsd instead and a simple xwindows installtion with just mozilla... ugly but functional
[04:33] <stepanstas> jrib, which is easier? and how
[04:33] <devilsadvocate> senator^, i'm not entirely certain but i think xubuntu will work on that hardware
[04:33] <devilsadvocate> the ram is the only thing that might be a problem
[04:34] <Donald1> davin^afk: so i copy this into my /etc/apt/sources.list and then i save it
[04:34] <devilsadvocate> you will have to check the xubunut site for specifications
[04:34] <senator^> devilsadvocate ok a little while ago people sad it will be very slow if it works at all on that hardware
[04:34] <spx2> how do i get hold of the universe repository ?
[04:34] <davin^afk> Donald1: yes
[04:34] <jrib> !universe | spx2
[04:34] <ubotu> spx2: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:34] <senator^> devilsadvocate couldnt find any spec. on ubuntus webpage :(
[04:34] <davin^afk> Donald1: make it empty first though
[04:34] <devilsadvocate> senator^, gnome and kde will not be able to run on that hardware. ubuntulite will but it uses icewm
[04:34] <jrib> stepanstas: try this first to see if it resolves the problem:  close all instances of firefox.  Then in a terminal:    export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 ; firefox
[04:35] <Donald1> davin^afk: done
[04:35] <Fortis> senator: Use Xubuntu, it uses XFCE
[04:35] <Fortis> Very userfriendly
[04:35] <senator^> devilsadvocate anyway I think I chose openbsd and xwindows without any kde or other enhancement and the only firefox... think that will be fast, secure and functional but ugly interface :)
[04:36] <senator^> Fortis ok is xunbuntu faster?
[04:36] <devilsadvocate> senator^, you could go to #xubuntuand ask if you like
[04:36] <davin^afk> Donald1: now 'sudo apt-get remove fluxtorrent' then 'sudo apt-get install fluxtorrent'
[04:36] <Fortis> I'm not sure, but it will be better usefull.
[04:36] <gOldZahN> hey now i'm at the step of choosing the busid if there are multiple-video cards, but i just have one graphic card and i cant continue with reconfiguring my X pressing enter. is the configuring process already finished or is it a bug?
[04:36] <Fortis> !xubuntu
[04:36] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[04:37] <senator^> how secure is ubuntu? is there remote holes in the default install?
[04:37] <Donald1> davin^afk: now it says E: Type ( is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:37] <Donald1> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[04:37] <eneried> !players
[04:37] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[04:38] <eneried> hello everybody
[04:38] <gOldZahN> hey now i'm at the step of choosing the busid if there are multiple-video cards, but i just have one graphic card and i cant continue with reconfiguring my X pressing enter. is the configuring process already finished or is it a bug?
[04:38] <paolitta> ok..I'm trying to use xchat...
[04:38] <eneried> is Totem the only player using gstreamer engine?
[04:38] <Donald1> davin^afk: i don't understand....
[04:39] <paolitta> can you help me?
[04:39] <davin^afk> Donald1: try this http://www.pastecode.com/9289
[04:39] <bogi> senator^: hi
[04:39] <eneried> just ask paolitta
[04:39] <indrop> Can someone tell me the command to open user's permission panel ?
[04:39] <paolitta> CU?
[04:39] <gOldZahN> hey now i'm at the step of choosing the busid if there are multiple-video cards, but i just have one graphic card and i cant continue with reconfiguring my X pressing enter. is the configuring process already finished or is it a bug?
[04:39] <eneried> the command
[04:40] <indrop> sudo xxx ?
[04:40] <LOQUILLO_> long days working, very far of home (400Km)
[04:40] <eneried> let me search indrop
[04:40] <indrop> ok thanks eneried
[04:40] <Donald1> davin^afk: i modified it, then sudo apt-get remove, then sudo apt-get install fluxtorrent but it STILL doesnt find the package!
[04:41] <eneried> indrop, what you need is a gui inteface or do it in command line?
[04:41] <davin^afk> Donald1: sudo apt-get remove fluxtorrent?
[04:41] <indrop> command line
[04:42] <Donald1> davin^afk: yes
[04:42] <eneried> i use the gnome one, the command is "gksudo users-admin" or "sudo users-admin"
[04:42] <davin^afk> Donald1: try to fully remove it and install it again using Synaptic
[04:42] <eneried> let me search for the command line alternative
[04:42] <indrop> Let me test it
[04:42] <indrop> i must leave the chat to test it
[04:42] <indrop> i come back
[04:43] <indrop> I'm back
[04:43] <bogi> senator^:  nope, i just checked, there are no remote holes in Ubuntu :-)
[04:44] <indrop> Can you repeat the command you told me plz ?
[04:44] <dyland> anyone have ubuntu with core 2 duo???
[04:44] <indrop> Copy/Paste doesn't function
[04:44] <eneried> indrop, you are running from console only?
[04:44] <devilsadvocate> senator^, i think its secure enough, but I really wouldnt know
[04:44] <indrop> eneried : Yes :/
[04:44] <senator^> fsf I cannot find any downloadlinks on ubuntulite.org ... it says "Curently no download links are avalible
[04:44] <Donald1> davin^afk: god, i can't find it in the synaptic!
[04:45] <indrop> eneried : My desktop is bugging
[04:45] <Donald1> davin^afk: it's gone....
[04:45] <indrop> eneried : i need to access utilisator admin panel
[04:45] <dyland> anyone have ubuntu with core 2 duo??? because i cant install ubuntu edgy on my pc, the live cd doesn't run
[04:46] <devilsadvocate> dyland, what chipset do you have
[04:46] <devilsadvocate> ?
[04:46] <tim__b> anyone knows a dvd collection organizer, which features internet lookup also for dvd description (audio;subtiles;etc)
[04:46] <indrop> eneried : Can you repeat me the command you told me ?
[04:46] <dyland> wait please
[04:46] <eneried> i use the gnome one, the command is "gksudo users-admin" or "sudo users-admin"
[04:46] <indrop> thx
[04:46] <indrop> i come back :p
[04:47] <Fortis> What was the command to make a new textfile?
[04:47] <jrib> Fortis: touch foo?
[04:47] <H3g3m0n> touch file.txt
[04:47] <senator^> thanks for the help everyone... bye
[04:48] <Fortis> I used something else..
[04:48] <BigToe|22days> !fixgrub
[04:48] <BigToe|22days> D:
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixgrub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <bogi> senator^:  they are being spammed, check here http://www.wolfteck.com/files/torrent/UbuntuLite-1.1.iso.torrent
[04:48] <Fortis> It was a command to make and edit text files
[04:48] <devilsadvocate> Fortis, do you want to make a new file and open it for editing?
[04:48] <jrib> Fortis: nano foo? vim foo? gedit foo? kate foo?
[04:49] <devilsadvocate> Fortis, vi , nano, gedit, kate, krite, vim
[04:49] <Fortis> It was nano!
[04:49] <Fortis> Thanks
[04:49] <IndrOp> Done, thx eneried :p
[04:49] <AcidUK> has anyone here manged to get tvout working on a UK tv recently? ie: using current(ish) drivers?
[04:49] <bogi> senator^:  or here http://ftp.cse.yzu.edu.tw/ftp/Linux/Ubuntu/ubuntulite/
[04:49] <BigToe|22days> guys, how do I repair my MBR after reinstalling XP?
[04:49] <eneried> your welcome IndrOp
[04:49] <BigToe|22days> I forgot the webpage of it
[04:49] <BigToe|22days> :S
[04:49] <senator^> bogi thanks
[04:50] <bokey> BigToe|22days, you got xp cd ? there's a program called fixmbr
[04:50] <senator^> BigToe fdisk /mbr I think in dos
[04:50] <BigToe|22days> that works?
[04:50] <BigToe|22days> for fixing grub?
[04:50] <BigToe|22days> wow
[04:50] <bokey> senator^, haha.. yeah something like that
[04:50] <bokey> =)
[04:51] <robbbb> afternoon all..
[04:51] <AcidUK> BigToe|22days: you'll need to reinstall grub into the MBR
[04:51] <bokey> BigToe|22days, that will work. fdisk /mbr =) lol used windows so looong ago.
[04:51] <H3g3m0n> BigToe|22days: grub-install /dev/yourdrivebutnotthepartitionnumber
[04:51] <robbbb> what is the program that does the screensaver on edgy?
[04:51] <igge> how can I see what package that provides a certain file?
[04:51] <devilsadvocate> robbbb, xscreensaver?
[04:51] <BigToe|22days> 'fdisk' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
[04:51] <BigToe|22days> operable program or batch file.
[04:52] <devilsadvocate> BigToe|22days, grub-install
[04:52] <robbbb> devilsadvocate: cool thanks
[04:52] <dyland> OK my chipset is an intel Q 965 Express
[04:52] <bokey> BigToe|22days, is there a program called fixmbr ?
[04:52] <misc--> does anyone here have a working dspam/postfix setup?
[04:52] <BigToe|22days> nope bokey
[04:52] <AcidUK> bokey: he wants to reinstall grub
[04:52] <robbbb> is that the same app that does the password prompt?
[04:52] <dyland> OK my chipset is an intel Q 965 Express is it compatible with ubuntu ??
[04:52] <AcidUK> not the window bootloader
[04:52] <jrib> igge: apt-file or use packages.ubuntu.com
[04:52] <BigToe|22days> devilsadvocate how do I use that?
[04:52] <stepansta1> i am a new bee, quick question, how do i change to 24 bit?
[04:52] <princemackenzie> bokey, yes
[04:52] <AcidUK> BigToe|22days: i'd suggest booting using an ubuntu livecd
[04:53] <bokey> princemackenzie, ?
[04:53] <jrib> igge: if you mean you want to see what package owns a file you have installed, use dpkg -S or dlocate -S
[04:53] <AcidUK> and then reinstalling grub
[04:53] <princemackenzie> bokey if you run it from the windows recovery console, it overwrites the MBR
[04:53] <igge> jrib: bash: apt-file: command not found
[04:53] <jrib> igge: install it :)
[04:53] <jesse__> through synaptic
[04:53] <bokey> princemackenzie, yeah.. it was so loong ago.. it forgot
[04:53] <bokey> =)
[04:53] <BigToe|22days> AcidUK how do I reinstall grub? just grub-install?
[04:53] <jesse__> ye
[04:53] <spx2> can someone please help me ?
[04:53] <jesse__> i think
[04:53] <jrib> !helpme | spx2
[04:53] <ubotu> spx2: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:54] <bokey> spx2, !ask
[04:54] <jesse__> spx2: Yes?
[04:54] <stepansta1> how do i change to  24-bit?
[04:54] <princemackenzie> bokey, yeah but if your boot sector is not on the same HD as your windows install, it borks it =P
[04:54] <H3g3m0n> BigToe|22days: grub-install, you could do it with grub but you would need to know the commands
[04:54] <bokey> princemackenzie, right.
[04:54] <devilsadvocate> BigToe|22days, grub-install --help
[04:54] <spx2> jesse__ i have a big problem with my laptop,my usb mouse doesn't work on ubuntu
[04:54] <stenbod> would somebody help med with my wireless connection please? i have read and tried everything i have read in forums and faqs :( but i can't get it to work
[04:54] <BigToe|22days> okay devilsadvocate
[04:54] <BigToe|22days> thanks
[04:54] <jrib> stepansta1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  will let you do that I believe.  Did exporting the variable not work?
[04:54] <BigToe|22days> then again
[04:54] <BigToe|22days> my cd burner is probably broked
[04:54] <jesse__> spx2:> well i am using a usb mouse on my desktop and it works, it's a dell mouse
[04:54] <BigToe|22days> it's very tempramental
[04:54] <BigToe|22days> >:\
[04:55] <spx2> jesse__ i have tried several combinations and configurations , you can read more about what i tried here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311462
[04:55] <devilsadvocate> BigToe|22days, you dont have a linuc live cd?
[04:55] <BigToe|22days> no
[04:55] <devilsadvocate> linux*
[04:55] <BigToe|22days> I did for 5.10
[04:55] <devilsadvocate> hmm
[04:55] <spx2> jesse__ so i should get a dell mouse ?
[04:55] <BigToe|22days> but then I threw it away :(
[04:55] <jrib> stepansta1: run this to see your current setting:  xdpyinfo| grep -i 'depth of root'
[04:55] <BigToe|22days> and I don't have a floppy drive
[04:55] <stepansta1> jrib, i know just about nothing about linux, my second day using it;)
[04:55] <spx2> jesse__ i have a canyon one
[04:55] <stepansta1> i just type in the sudo....
[04:55] <BigToe|22days> and booting USB devices won't work
[04:55] <BigToe|22days> actually
[04:55] <devilsadvocate> BigToe|22days, you _could_ look at grub for windows
[04:55] <stepansta1> ?
[04:55] <robbbb> my screensaver doesn't work! any ideas?
[04:55] <bokey> stepansta1, goodluck.
[04:55] <BigToe|22days> I could?
[04:55] <BigToe|22days> link?
[04:55] <devilsadvocate> or a grub-installer on a floppy
[04:55] <BigToe|22days> no floppy drive
[04:55] <robbbb> i just get a blank black screen!
[04:55] <bokey> robbbb, xscreensaver ?
[04:55] <jrib> stepansta1: type in my last command with xdpyinfo first to check what it is
[04:56] <devilsadvocate> you'll have to google for it. i just know that it exists
[04:56] <BigToe|22days> ok
[04:56] <jesse__> spx2:> try the canyon one se  if that works, i still have problem with windows and my mouse but not on linux.
[04:56] <BigToe|22days> thanks
[04:56] <stepansta1> 16 panes
[04:56] <stepansta1> planes
[04:56] <eneried> Does somebody how to ping to a computer behind a modem-router? i have the ip of the modem-router, and the ip of the cdomputer in its intranet... any idea?
[04:56] <jrib> stepansta1: yeah, go ahead and run the first command then
[04:56] <Washboy> Hi. I was wondering if any of the devs of ubuntu has looked on the gobohide patches, and if so, what they thought of it?
[04:57] <spx2> jesse__ do you want to take a look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311462
[04:57] <jesse__> spx2:> hold on i will
[04:57] <robbbb> bokey: yeah i've just installed that, but still the same
[04:57] <bokey> robbbb, what command did you issue ?
[04:57] <robbbb> apt-get install xscreensaver
[04:57] <spx2> jesse__ thanks :)
[04:58] <BigToe|22days> devilsadvocate I'm a newbie to linux and don't understand all this :S
[04:58] <stepansta1> jrib, does it matter what driver i choose?
[04:58] <jrib> stepansta1: yes
[04:58] <jesse__> spx2:> did it work?
[04:58] <bokey> robbbb, xscreensaver-demo .. did you apt it already ?
[04:58] <Unimatrix9> hi there, are there jany bugs that i should worry about in ubuntu 6.10
[04:58] <senator^> I have a question... There is this girl that have been sending me alot of text messages on the phone... If I want to follow her shopping, go see a movie etc... Is she intressed in me or is it just as a friend?
[04:58] <devilsadvocate> hmm..
[04:58] <Unimatrix9> -j
[04:58] <robbbb> nope - what does that do?
[04:58] <jrib> !offtopic | senator^
[04:58] <ubotu> senator^: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:59] <stepansta1> jrib, what if im stupid and dont know which one i have?
[04:59] <BigToe|22days> what's a "stage1" and "stage2" image?
[04:59] <robbbb> bokey: cant find it
[04:59] <bokey> robbbb, first go to your terminal and get xscreensaver with apt-get install xscreensaver
[04:59] <robbbb> bokey: done that
[04:59] <devilsadvocate> BigToe|22days, what are you looking at? link?
[04:59] <jrib> stepansta1: open /etc/X11/xorg.conf in a text editor and see what you have now
[04:59] <BigToe|22days> it's in the .tar.gz
[04:59] <spx2> jesse__ no
[04:59] <bokey> robbbb, then after xscreensaver is installed do xscreensaver-(press tab) and list what's there at #flood
[04:59] <devilsadvocate> robbbb, are you on ubuntu or a derivative?
[04:59] <BigToe|22days> http://www.geocities.com/lode_leroy/grubinstall/grubinstall-1.01.tar.gz readme.txt and install.txt
[04:59] <robbbb> ubunti
[05:00] <robbbb> ubuntu even
[05:00] <jrib> stepansta1: should be under Section "Device"
[05:00] <jesse__> spx2:> is it a optical wheel mouse?
[05:00] <robbbb> yeah there's a xscreensaver-demo
[05:00] <Unimatrix9> so no bugs in ubuntu 6.10?
[05:00] <bokey> robbbb, xscreensaver-demo not working ?
[05:00] <Unimatrix9> wow!
[05:00] <jrib> Unimatrix9: of course there are bugs
[05:00] <Unimatrix9> hehe
[05:00] <Unimatrix9> ok
[05:00] <spx2> jesse__ yes
[05:00] <Unimatrix9> wich are the main issue's?
[05:01] <senator^> thanks for the help everyone, have a nice day
[05:01] <bokey> senator^, =)
[05:01] <jesse__> spx2:> do you have any other mice that you have connected to your laptop that are PS/2?
[05:01] <BigToe|22days> er, never mind that :P
[05:01] <BigToe|22days> so yeah devilsadvocate what do I do? :S
[05:01] <bogi> senator^zZz:  gooin sleepin
[05:02] <robbbb> futureama
[05:02] <robbbb> futureama
[05:02] <robbbb> futureama
[05:02] <senator^zZz> bogi na just beeing idle for a while when trying ubuntulite
[05:02] <devilsadvocate> BigToe|22days, you need to do that from within linux i guess.
[05:02] <stepansta1> jrib, if i just change it their, will it do anything (in the text)
[05:03] <robbbb> sorry ignore all that
[05:03] <bogi> senator^zZz: cool,
[05:03] <BigToe|22days> devilsadvocate it says use cygwin
[05:03] <senator^zZz> how come there are no operators in this channel? when I used irc years ago there was operators in the channels... seems like alot of things changed since then
[05:03] <robbbb> bokey: looks ok. depends what it's supposed to do though
[05:03] <BigToe|22days> and what's a stage1/stage2 image?
[05:03] <jesse__> spx2:> do you have any other mice that you have connected to your laptop that are PS/2?
[05:03] <bokey> robbbb, wtf ?
[05:04] <Stormx2> Hey. Whats a good app to take a screenshot of the currently focused window?
[05:04] <jrib> stepansta1: it only writes the changes at the end
[05:04] <BigToe|22days> senator^zZz there usually are, this chan sucks though and all the ops aren't here S:
[05:04] <devilsadvocate> BigToe|22days, you just need to follow the instructions
[05:04] <bokey> robbbb, read the fucking manual then
[05:04] <Stormx2> bokey: Language.
[05:04] <robbbb> TOSSER
[05:04] <Stormx2> You too robbbb
[05:04] <BigToe|22days> devilsadvocate how can I if I can't understand them? :|
[05:04] <jesse__> who gives a rip about the language
[05:04] <spx2> jesse__ no,it's the only one
[05:04] <devilsadvocate> senator^zZz, the ops here dont flaunt their status. they only add the % when they need to
[05:04] <stepansta1> so if i was to change 16 to 24, save, restart, will it work?
[05:04] <stepansta1> jrib^
[05:05] <Stormx2> !coc | jesse__
[05:05] <ubotu> jesse__: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[05:05] <jesse__> i know
[05:05] <dyland> hello i have a computer with intel core 2 duo, and a chipset intel Q965 Express, and a nvidia card, but the live cd doesn't run, anyone can help me??
[05:05] <senator^zZz> devilsadvocate ok I see... seems so in order here and no operators, back In my days when there was irc channels with 1000 people in it we needed bots and operators 24/7 to keep in order
[05:05] <jesse__> spx2:> look for it on the device manager
[05:06] <Stormx2> Anyway. Screenshot software that takes only the currently active window?
[05:06] <spx2> jesse__ where is the dev manager ?
[05:06] <jrib> stepansta1: you can try that if you feel comfortable doing so, notice that is in the "Screen" section.  Be sure to make a backup.  If X does not start after your change do you know how to get to a tty and restore the backup?
[05:06] <bokey> senator^zZz, there are bots here.
[05:06] <jesse__> system, administration
[05:06] <devilsadvocate> senator^zZz, you still have opes in many channels. thins place has 952 people if you havent noticed
[05:06] <Unimatrix9> printscreen?
[05:06] <devilsadvocate> dyland, I'm afraid the 965 chipset is hell with linux
[05:06] <stepansta1> jrib, no but i think this method will be easier for me, ill take the risk
[05:07] <jesse__> unitmatrix9:>alt + Print Screen
[05:07] <frying_fish> Stormx2: press alt+ print screen ?
[05:07] <Stormx2> frying_fish: Ah yeah I just figured
[05:07] <Stormx2> frying_fish: I'm used to Alt Gr, see.
[05:07] <BigToe|22days> hey what's this
[05:07] <Unimatrix9> you can use gimp for screenshots too
[05:07] <BigToe|22days> I have to buy the new CDs? :S
[05:07] <frying_fish> ahh/
[05:07] <senator^zZz> bokey ok yeah I see you use the ! to command the bots, but I didnt think the bots could do much without @ infront of there nicknames... this network is diffrent from the once I used before
[05:07] <stepansta1> jrib, hopefully, ill see you in a bit
[05:07] <Stormx2> BigToe|22days: Hmm?
[05:07] <jrib> stepansta1: if X does not start, press ctrl-alt-f1, that gets you a terminal.  To make the backup,  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[05:07] <frying_fish> BigToe|22days: only at the cost of the cd, or you can download them for free.
[05:07] <spx2> jesse_ how can i find what distro i have ?
[05:07] <eneried> devilsadvocate, unfortunately some of us must disagree with the "there are 953 users connected here" there are 953 connecytions stablished to irc chanel only, if reallly were 953 users here, any of them ask when any of us make asimple question
[05:08] <BigToe|22days> frying_fish I don't have a working CD burner though
[05:08] <bokey> senator^zZz, =)
[05:08] <dyland> :(
[05:08] <dyland> buuu
[05:08] <BigToe|22days> so I'm just downloading 6.06 then upgrading
[05:08] <BigToe|22days> er
[05:08] <BigToe|22days> by downloading
[05:08] <jrib> stepanstas: obviously, make the backup now :)   To restore would just be:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:08] <eneried> ok
[05:08] <BigToe|22days> I mean getting a cd
[05:08] <bogi> BigToe|22days: ask the question, with exact info about the error messages, if the answer is in the manual, you will be instructed to rtfm, sometimes politely, sometimes less so.
[05:08] <frying_fish> ok
[05:08] <eneried> could somebody aske me a litte question?
[05:08] <Stormx2> Wow
[05:08] <dyland> thanks
[05:08] <jesse__> unitmatrix9:>goto system, help, and then system documentation, then click on about ubuntu
[05:08] <jrib> eneried: what is 1 + 1?  What do you mean?
[05:08] <eneried> what the hell in this worl uses gstreamer and is better than the damn totem?
[05:08] <Stormx2> This channel has gone to pot in 6 months o.o no one used to say rtfm..
[05:09] <Unimatrix9> i did not ask anything
[05:09] <Unimatrix9> :)
[05:09] <senator^zZz> devilsadvocate I did see that, I meant about 1000 people when I said 1000 people
[05:09] <strabes> wow stop arguing
[05:09] <bokey> Stormx2, if you say rtfm, noobs won't understand it. ;)
[05:09] <strabes> this channel is for HELP
[05:09] <jesse__> unitmatrix9:>sorry
[05:09] <strabes> you're not supposed to say rtfm here
[05:09] <eneried> jrib, i mean if i make a question, and is true that moere than 900 people are here, even one of this big grioup could answer me
[05:09] <Stormx2> bokey, yeah I know... they just ask more xD
[05:09] <Stormx2> Yeah
[05:09] <devilsadvocate> rtfm?
[05:09] <jesse__> rtfm?
[05:09] <strabes> devilsadvocate: read the ******* manual
[05:10] <Stormx2> devilsadvocate, read the fine manual
[05:10] <Unimatrix9> eneried try again
[05:10] <bokey> Stormx2, haha..
[05:10] <devilsadvocate> ah
[05:10] <jesse__> i don't get it?
[05:10] <strabes> yeah so you're NOT supposed to say that here
[05:10] <robbbb> looser talk
[05:10] <Jannis> hi all!
[05:10] <jesse__> what is rtfm?
[05:10] <Stormx2> Hey Jannis
[05:10] <jrib> !rtfm
[05:10] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[05:10] <pradeep> friendly*
[05:10] <Stormx2> jesse__: Google it.
[05:10] <Stormx2> jesse__: or take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:10] <jesse__> stormx2:> ok
[05:10] <Jannis> I have downloaded ubuntu, what now?
[05:11] <Stormx2> !install
[05:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:11] <Unimatrix9> read the manual pages, but a better suggestion would be , try google and see if there is any info on your quest
[05:11] <bokey> jesse__, back in the golden days and still prevails in #linux and #freebsd when anyone asked something that was outrightly in the manuals, the person would be told to *rtfm*. read the f*** manual
[05:11] <frying_fish> Jannis: burn it to disk and boot the computer from that disk?
[05:11] <eneried> in your opinion what is the best video player available in ubuntu? (i'm looking for a replace to totem)
[05:11] <Jannis> ok
[05:11] <Unimatrix9> eneried its mplayer
[05:11] <Stormx2> Jannis: Check the links ubotu just gave you
[05:11] <Stormx2> Jannis: They explain it in a lot of depth
[05:11] <strabes> Jannis: do you know how to burn an ISO image?
[05:11] <jesse__> oh OK
[05:11] <jrib> eneried: mplayer, xine-ui, gxine, totem-xine, vlc are all good
[05:11] <jesse__> ???
[05:11] <jesse__> sorry
[05:12] <Jannis> no?
[05:12] <eneried> ok, one vote to mplayer, any other alternative?
[05:12] <Unimatrix9> eneried , and you need codecs too
[05:12] <spx2> jesse__ where is the device manager
[05:12] <spx2> jesse__ where is the device manager ?
[05:12] <Stormx2> Jannis: Please check the wiki.
[05:12] <frying_fish> eneried: I would vote vlc
[05:12] <jrib> eneried: mplayer is the best imo as well
[05:12] <Stormx2> Jannis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[05:12] <eneried> jrib all of them uses xine engine, i'm right?
[05:12] <frying_fish> vlc for the fact that you don't need to get extra codecs
[05:12] <Unimatrix9> eneried ,  what would you like it to play?
[05:12] <BeNikis> eneried,  i vote vlc :D
[05:12] <Stormx2> VLC is good for video
[05:12] <jesse__> spx2:> click on system, administration
[05:13] <frying_fish> vlc is great for video
[05:13] <bogi> bye 4 now
[05:13] <eneried> i often play from avi to mpg passing by mov, divx and xvid
[05:13] <frying_fish> all of which will play in vlc
[05:13] <frying_fish> Stormx2: same for the music front
[05:13] <eneried> anything, and i use to have two or three players at same time in machine, because sometimes vlc or mplayer cannot render a malformed video
[05:13] <Arigato> is it possible to enable seccomp without recompiling the kernel?
[05:13] <senator^zZz> !rules
[05:13] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:13] <eneried> but definitely tiotem is not the third choice
[05:13] <Unimatrix9> eneried  : install vlc and give it a try and come back after the movie
[05:13] <frying_fish> although, something fucked with checkinstall makes the compiling from source fun.
[05:13] <jrib> eneried: of the ones I mentioned, vlc and mplayer don't use xine
[05:13] <frying_fish> ahh, language bad
[05:14] <frying_fish> apologies
[05:14] <Unimatrix9> hee jono
[05:14] <jono> hey
[05:14] <Unimatrix9> nice to see you here!
[05:14] <jono> :)
[05:14] <jesse__> spx2:> if it's not there then goto applications then accessoires then alterte menu editor and check off device manager
[05:15] <eneried> jrib, hehe, good! then vlc and mplayer and xine remains in my list
[05:15] <frying_fish> I wonder if the latest audacious (being that it now has a debian developer) will come with the debian control scripts for us to compile using dpkg
[05:15] <Stormx2> frying_fish: It has a debian developer? sweet
[05:15] <eneried> Unimatrix, jrib, frying_fish any good alternative that uses gstremer engine??
[05:15] <frying_fish> Stormx2: it does now.
[05:15] <Stormx2> eneried: xine.
[05:16] <frying_fish> eneried: I don't use gstreamer apps.
[05:16] <frying_fish> vlc and audacious for me.
[05:16] <jesse__> can someone help me with spx2?
[05:16] <Spee_Der> Good day folks.
[05:16] <Stormx2> jesse__: Whats the issue?
[05:16] <Unimatrix9> eneried  : does it matter, as long as it works
[05:16] <spx2> jesse__ i found it at computer/ixp sb400 usb host controller/ohci host controller/f8e842-DL mouse/USB HID interface/HID 1241:1177   - here it reads capabilities input,input.mouse ---> so this is it :)
[05:16] <jesse__> stormx2:> see spx2
[05:16] <jesse__> he needs help with his usb mouse
[05:17] <Stormx2> hmm
[05:17] <eneried> Unimatrix, I use vlc, and i like it a lot, mplayer is very hard to put to work as well as desired, but i can't take my time wrking on it, xine as a bakup alternative...
[05:17] <jesse__> i have been trying to help him but i can't see the exact problem
[05:17] <Stormx2> spx2: Had a look on the forums?
[05:17] <frying_fish> jesse__: usb mouse that doesn't work?
[05:17] <eneried> Stormx2 i'm looking for a replace for totem, but an alternative that really uses gstreamer
[05:17] <munkay> eneried: what's so difficult to get to work w/ mplayer ?
[05:17] <spx2> Stormx2 read about 15 posts on similar problems(couldn't find my problem exactly)
[05:17] <frying_fish> tbh vlc is quite versatile.
[05:17] <jesse__> frying_fish:>spx2's usb mouse doesn't work
[05:18] <Stormx2> eneried: Totem uses gstreamer doesn't it? The only other real alternatives are VLC (I recommend it!) and mplayer
[05:18] <eneried> i make a list of 4 video players, vlc, mplayer, xine, and i need one working with gstreamer
[05:18] <frying_fish> spx2: what about it doesn't work?
[05:18] <Stormx2> eneried: Install totem-gstreamer? xD
[05:18] <Unimatrix9> spx2 there is an alternative, you  could use an usb to ps2 adapter, but i guess thats not what you want?
[05:18] <jesse__> frying_fish:>my usb mouse works fine and it's a dell, I plugged right in and it worked
[05:18] <spx2> Stormx2 frying_fish if you want to help look here first : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311462
[05:18] <eneried> i have totem-gstreamer, but i don't like totem, totem crashes and have not enough options
[05:19] <spx2> frying_fish unimatrix9 if you want to help look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311462
[05:19] <Stormx2> eneried: VLC then
[05:19] <frying_fish> usb mice just work normally
[05:19] <eneried> i'm planning to uninstall totem-gstreamer, and if there's no other alternative using gstreamer codec, uninstall them too
[05:19] <jesse__> frying_fish:>yeh they are plug-and-play =
[05:19] <frying_fish> my mx500, my friends wireless ms kit, any other usb mouse I have ever tried just works.
[05:19] <jesse__> :)
[05:19] <Zac1> how do I upload to my MP3 player
[05:19] <strabes> yeah usb mice are pretty plug-and-play...
[05:19] <eneried> wich codecs does xine use?
[05:19] <spx2> unimatrix9 no that's not an option :(
[05:19] <Stormx2> Zac1: What kind of MP3 player do you have?
[05:19] <strabes> Zac1: that depends on what type of mp3 player you have
[05:20] <Unimatrix9> what does dmesg show when plugged in?
[05:20] <Zac1> Bus-LInk
[05:20] <eneried> does xine use gstremer or w32codecs?
[05:20] <Stormx2> Zac1: Manufacturer?
[05:20] <jesse__> what do you mean?
[05:20] <Zac1> bus-link
[05:20] <jesse__> ok usb-bus
[05:20] <spx2> unimatrix9 please write spx2 in front of your message to me otherwise i will not see it because there's lots of people writing here ,thank you
[05:20] <Stormx2> Zac1: Does it use ID3 tag management?
[05:20] <Unimatrix9> ah
[05:20] <spx2> unimatrix9 what command do you want me to run ? please state exactly
[05:20] <Zac1> I don't know
[05:21] <Stormx2> Zac1: Hmm. Hold on.
[05:21] <jesse__> loads of people helping you now spx2
[05:21] <Stormx2> Zac1: I'll look it up for you.
[05:21] <strabes> Stormx2, Zac1, how did you upload songs to it in windows?
[05:21] <spx2> jesse__ thank you
[05:21] <strabes> Stormx2: http://www.buslink.com/B1/products.asp?CatId=5&SubCatID1=21
[05:21] <frying_fish> spx2: what does lsusb give you, and then cat /proc/bus/input/devices
[05:21] <jurgen> Hi... I've just installed Ubuntu 6.10 - now I'm trying to install LAMP (Apache-PHP-MySQL) for testing sites locally... but the "server" disc is not there...
[05:21] <frying_fish> what information does that give for your mouse
[05:21] <Zac1> using the supplied program
[05:21] <jesse__> spx2:> i will still try to help in any case
[05:21] <eneried> Another question, what plugin is the best for playing video inside a web page on firefox or mozilla?
[05:21] <frying_fish> as you should be using the event number from that for your mouse
[05:22] <frying_fish> if it doesn't just work
[05:22] <frying_fish> eneried: mplayer-plugin?
[05:22] <jesse__> frying_fish:>according to spx2, it doesn't work at all
[05:22] <frying_fish> the vlc plugin is getting there.
[05:22] <strabes> Zac1: does it automount when you plug it in?
[05:22] <Stormx2> Zac1: Please tell me what model it is. Here is a list: http://www.buslink.com/B1/products.asp?CatId=5&SubCatID1=21
[05:22] <sam1982> BIG PROBLEM just updated flash 9 and now when i open some websites it just closes the whole web browser
[05:22] <spx2> frying_fish ,unimatrix9 , jesse__ i will immediatly add the output of dmesg and lsusb
[05:22] <Unimatrix9> ok
[05:22] <iGadget> hi
[05:22] <Unimatrix9> spx2 ok
[05:22] <jesse__> spx2:> ok
[05:22] <Stormx2> hey iGadget
[05:22] <frying_fish> jesse__: well, so far all the output we havee is a config file, nothing about lsusb, and /proc/bus/input/devices
[05:22] <princemackenzie> howdy iGadget
[05:22] <frying_fish> as if it shows there it should work.
[05:22] <iGadget> does anyone have any experience with booting / installing from LAN?
[05:22] <Zac1> MP3-14XS-B
[05:23] <eneried> frying_fich, is there one vlc plugin for mozilla? XDD eeeeeeeeeeeeee
[05:23] <jesse__> frying_fish:>ok
[05:23] <frying_fish> eneried: yes.
[05:23] <zch> !samba
[05:23] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:23] <princemackenzie> can't say i do iGadget, sorry
[05:23] <eneried> !codecs
[05:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:23] <sam1982> PROBLEM with firefox ~~~  anyone avaialble to offer some help ?  Thanks! (^-^)
[05:23] <strabes> Zac1: can you give us a link to that mp3 player? I can't find it on their website
[05:23] <princemackenzie> sam1982, flash 9 is a beta
[05:23] <Afief> Hello, since i upgraded to Edgy i cannot detect any wireless networks although then driver(ipw2200) is loaded. it used to work on dapper
[05:23] <jesse__> realplayer
[05:23] <Zac1> no
[05:23] <iGadget> princemackenzie: np, thanks for listening anyway :)
[05:23] <eneried> sam1982 i can try
[05:23] <Unimatrix9> sam1982 state nature of problem
[05:24] <iGadget> anyone else? :)
[05:24] <frying_fish> iGadget: booting yes (if you mean wakeonlan)
[05:24] <DralaFi> martin pitt here?
[05:24] <sam1982> ~~  Problem  ~~  everytime i click on MAIL in the sg.yahoo.com website it cses the web browser.  also some other websites   seems to be those that contain flash...
[05:24] <strabes> Zac1: if we don't know anything about your mp3 player we can't help you.
[05:24] <eneried> realplayer... i can use the official realplayer, and then i don't need to have gstreamer on machine, is that idea a good idea?
[05:24] <DralaFi> pmount software author?
[05:24] <Stormx2> Zac1: Okay. Plug it in.
[05:24] <strabes> Zac1: how many gigs is it
[05:24] <Stormx2> Zac1: Does it connect via USB?
[05:24] <Afief> Hello, since i upgraded to Edgy i cannot detect any wireless networks although then driver(ipw2200) is loaded. it used to work on dapper. Is there a way to fix this?
[05:25] <Stormx2> strabes: Its 128mb.
[05:25] <sam1982> ~~~  not sure how this happened but i just updated to 9 this morning and its never been right since.
[05:25] <iGadget> frying_fish: well wakeonlan is just making the pc power up by receiving a magic packet from lan, right?
[05:25] <Zac1> serial no e21150524a
[05:25] <Stormx2> Zac1: Plug it in.
[05:25] <strabes> Stormx2: then it probably just has a folder with mp3 files in it
[05:25] <Stormx2> strabes: Yeah i'd assume so.
[05:25] <frying_fish> yeah, but that counts as booting from lan
[05:25] <strabes> Afief: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[05:25] <Zac1> ok
[05:25] <frying_fish> unless you mean boot an image stored across lan.
[05:25] <strabes> Zac1: what happens when you plug it into the computer?
[05:25] <Stormx2> Zac1, does it connect via USB?
[05:25] <Zac1> nothing
[05:25] <Afief> strabes: it is installed, but doesn't detect any networks
[05:26] <iGadget> frying_fish: that's exactly what I mean... I have a pc here which refuses to boot from cd or floppy
[05:26] <strabes> Afief: is SSID broadcasting enabled on your router? Do you have scanning enabled on your computer?
[05:26] <jesse__> spx2:> any progress?
[05:26] <Unimatrix9> sam1982  - you could donwload an new one, and unpack it somewhere , and run that one, it will see your old settings
[05:26] <zspada15> (offtopic) anyone who wants to read something about why they should switch to ubuntu from windows, here is a post in my blog: http://zspada15.blogspot.com/
[05:26] <frying_fish> oh, well sorry no I don't but it can be done, I think.
[05:26] <Stormx2> Zac1, Please go to My Computer (under Places). Is it listed? It will look something like "128mb Volume"
[05:26] <sam1982> uni ~~  what should i download?
[05:26] <Unimatrix9> did i miss an messege of spx2?
[05:26] <DralaFi> pmount /dev/sda1    mount: mount point /mnt/usbdisk does not exist
[05:26] <iGadget> frying_fish: I know it can, but I just don't know how :)
[05:26] <DralaFi> Why in /mnt ?
[05:26] <Afief> strabes: on my router it is, i don't know how to enable it on the PC, but it used to scan just fine in dapper
[05:26] <strabes> Zac1: what does this command output: dmesg |grep link
[05:27] <PiTcReW> shit
[05:27] <PiTcReW> ubuntu is pretty cool
[05:27] <spx2> unimatrix9 , frying_fish
[05:27] <strabes> !language
[05:27] <PiTcReW> just installed it a few hours ago
[05:27] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:27] <Stormx2> PiTcReW: Can say that again ^__^
[05:27] <frying_fish> spx2: yeah?
[05:27] <spx2> unimatrix9 , frying_fish
[05:27] <Unimatrix9> sam1982 from firefox website ...
[05:27] <spx2> unimatrix9 , frying_fish
[05:27] <sam1982> ok !
[05:27] <sam1982> ZACK
[05:27] <spx2> unimatrix9 , frying_fish
[05:27] <kraut> moin
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[05:27] <sam1982> ZACK!!!!!~~~~~~~
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[05:27] <eneried> realplayer... i can use the official realplayer, and then i don't need to have gstreamer on machine, is that idea a good idea?
[05:27] <spx2> Reload this Page usb mouse trouble
[05:27] <sam1982> ZACK~~~~~~
[05:27] <spx2> 
[05:27] <spx2> Welcome, spx3.
[05:27] <Unimatrix9> sam1982 what was the problem, it does not start?
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[05:28] <sam1982> Zac   ?
[05:28] <spx2> 4 Hours
[05:29] <spx2> Join Date: Dec 2006
[05:29] <spx2> Beans: 4
[05:29] <spx2> usb mouse trouble
[05:29] <spx2> hello
[05:29] <zspada15> !pastebin | Zacl
[05:29] <ubotu> Zacl: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:29] <spx2> i have a ubuntu 6.10 installed on
[05:29] <Stormx2> Stop.
[05:29] <spx2> a laptop wich is a toshiba L100-194.
[05:30] <spx2> i have also a mouse - usb canyon cn-msopt2.
[05:30] <Stormx2> FFS people!
[05:30] <spx2> i just wanted to specify to make things clear.
[05:30] <sam1982> http://zspada15.blogspot.com/   < whos website is this?
[05:30] <Stormx2> spx2: Stop.
[05:30] <spx2> now,the problem is that i have tried for
[05:30] <spx2> an entire day to make the usb mouse work,and
[05:30] <zspada15> sam1982, mine
[05:30] <spx2> have not succeded in doing so.
[05:30] <spx2> the problem seems to be that somehow the mouse
[05:30] <spx2> is influenced by the synnaptic pad OR ubuntu does
[05:30] <spx2> not have the proper drivers to be able to talk
[05:30] <spx2> to the usb mouse.
[05:30] <sam1982> zspada  ~~  is that you on your website?
[05:30] <Stormx2> !ops
[05:30] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez or gnomefreak!
[05:30] <spx2> now where the problem is...i don't know.
[05:30] <Stormx2> oh
[05:30] <Stormx2> damn.
[05:30] <zspada15> sam1982, yes
[05:30] <RichiH> spx2: please tell me once you are finished
[05:30] <sam1982> zspada15 ~~  how old are you ?
[05:30] <eneried> how can i set default applications in ubuntu? i don't want to play videos with totem, i want to make vlc default for some, and mplayer for some others, any idea?
[05:30] <Unimatrix9> he is banned?
[05:30] <Stormx2> Zac1, still there?
[05:30] <zspada15> sam1982, send me a pm and ill talk to u, dont wanna flood the shannel
[05:31] <frying_fish> whoever wrote that blog really needs to learn how to write something properly before posting it and suggesting people actually read it.
[05:31] <borg> what's the command that lists all your hardware?
[05:31] <frying_fish> spx2: link to what you want me to look at.
[05:31] <RichiH> !ops for your information, i just used my staff powers to override two floods -- i hope i did not act against any internal policy :/
[05:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops for your information, i just used my staff powers to override two floods -- i hope i did not act against any internal policy :/ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <strabes> borg: dmesg
[05:31] <RichiH> bleh
[05:31] <Unimatrix9> banned the wrong one
[05:31] <borg> heh, that command keeps changing names, before it was lcpci or something like that
[05:31] <Warbo> Hi. I'm having some troubles with networking on my laptop and am wondering where to begin. lspci tells me "Network Controller: Broadcom Corporation Unknown Device 4311 (rev01)" and "Ehternet Controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)" Any pointers would be appreciated :)
[05:31] <frying_fish> spx2: what is the output of "cat /proc/bus/input/devices"
[05:32] <Zac1> How do i upload to a buslink MP3 player
[05:32] <z|George> Is there anyway to change this resolution of 1024x768 to a higher resolution? I read somewhere about editing xorg.conf, but I tried and it wouldn't save because I didn't have proper permissions, which is probably because I'm running off LiveCD (Until I get a second hard drive)
[05:32] <Stormx2> RichiH: How come you have ops? ^__^
[05:32] <Stormx2> Zac1: Please listen
[05:32] <eneried> hey, could somebodu help me? i want to change my video default application, how can i do that?
[05:32] <Stormx2> Zac1: Is the device powered on, and plugged in?
[05:32] <Zac1> yes
[05:32] <G3N3SIS> What is a good way to use my software from Windows on Linux for free.  As well as efficiently.
[05:32] <Stormx2> Zac1: Have you looked under Places > My Computer
[05:32] <Zac1> yes
[05:32] <Stormx2> G3N3SIS: WINE
[05:32] <Fortis> Genesis: Wine
[05:32] <G3N3SIS> I need Dreamweaver, Photoshop, and Flash.
[05:32] <RichiH> Stormx2: i don't
[05:32] <Stormx2> Zac1: Nothing there at all?
[05:32] <G3N3SIS> Does Wine work well?
[05:33] <frying_fish> G3N3SIS: look for a linux alternative.
[05:33] <Zac1> nothing there
[05:33] <RichiH> Stormx2: i am freenode staff
[05:33] <Fortis> Genesis: For the most things: yes
[05:33] <Stormx2> G3N3SIS: Depends
[05:33] <jesse__> i'm back
[05:33] <frying_fish> for photoshop: try the gimp, flash, well there you are kind of boned.
[05:33] <Warbo> z|George: use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to set it up, then press ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a console and run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[05:33] <Stormx2> RichiH: Ah, lucky ^__^
[05:33] <frying_fish> and dreamweaver, use an alternative.
[05:33] <J4kch> g3n3sis: Yeah, linux alternatives are usually best
[05:33] <G3N3SIS> Yeah, I'm a web dev though, I need to be able to slice and stuff.
[05:33] <Fortis> For dreamweaver use NVU
[05:33] <strabes> Stormx2: it's not automounting. We need to find where it is in /dev and then manually mount it
[05:33] <G3N3SIS> Dreamweaver, I can live without.
[05:33] <Stormx2> G3N3SIS: Ah, an issue I have.
[05:33] <frying_fish> "web dev" and you use dreamweaver? why not just code it manually as you should.
[05:33] <DralaFi> heh, so much noise in here
[05:33] <G3N3SIS> Flash, I enjoy spending time in
[05:33] <Warbo> Moho/AnimeStudio is better than Flash for animation I find, but no luck for web apps (no scripting). Also it's hard to get hold of
[05:33] <Fortis> I don't know a alternative for Flash..
[05:33] <frying_fish> flash, don't use flash it is horrible.
[05:33] <G3N3SIS> I do FF
[05:33] <strabes> Stormx2, Zac1: go to system, preferences, removable drives and media
[05:34] <Stormx2> frying_fish: You're not helping. Read what he said. He needs to slice.
[05:34] <eneried> G3N3SIS my opinion, set a dual bootable machine, keep thos software on windows and use linux for the rest
[05:34] <Zac1> ok
[05:34] <z|George> I'm on a LiveCD and was wondering if I could raise the screen res. I'm stuck at 1024x768 on my 17"LCD :-\
[05:34] <G3N3SIS> I code manually, I just like the server uploads that Dreamweaver has.
[05:34] <strabes> eneried, G3N3SIS: that is a good idea
[05:34] <eneried> or install a virtual machine in linux to install windows inside
[05:34] <strabes> G3N3SIS: just dual boot with a shared fat32 or ext3 partition
[05:34] <G3N3SIS> I already have that eneried,
[05:34] <Dheeraj_k> can any body tell me how apt works?
[05:34] <Warbo> z|George: Look up, I told you how :)
[05:34] <Zac1> OK
[05:34] <Stormx2> G3N3SIS: Ah everyone does. A good FTP client is FireFTP if you need one.
[05:34] <frying_fish> G3N3SIS: "server uploads" can easily be done by ftp (either with something like gftp or command line) or scp (through ssh)
[05:34] <jesse__> yeh it helps to have windows as a backup even through i have never really had a problem with linux
[05:34] <G3N3SIS> FireFTP?
[05:35] <eneried> then the second option is good for you if your machine have enough memory hard disk and processor
[05:35] <G3N3SIS> I got gftp, but I think I'll look into FireFTP
[05:35] <Fortis> dheeraj: sudo apt-get install appname
[05:35] <z|George> Warbo: Oh, excellent - Guess I didn't see it in the scrolling-ness :P
[05:35] <sain> i tried to play Call of Duty on the ubuntu but it didn't work or whatever
[05:35] <sain> linux suxors
[05:35] <G3N3SIS> Oh you mean the Firefox addons
[05:35] <Warbo> z|George: Trouble is, you'll have to do it every time you boot the CD :(
[05:35] <Stormx2> G3N3SIS: Its a plugin for Firefox
[05:35] <J4kch> sain: Tried Wine or Cedega?
[05:35] <jesse__> ubuntu linux rocks!
[05:35] <sain> i even reloaded with shift pressed and that
[05:35] <Unimatrix9> http://frankscorner.org/
[05:35] <G3N3SIS> yeah I know.
[05:35] <Unimatrix9> for wine
[05:35] <Stormx2> G3N3SIS: However, its the best client. gFTP is... horrible
[05:35] <eneried> i have worked in design, and at this time there are not good alternatives to following programs: macromedia, corel, photoshop autocad
[05:35] <strabes> G3N3SIS: sftp is a command-based secure ftp client
[05:35] <Zac1> I'm there
[05:35] <DralaFi> jesse__, Linux rocks. Ubuntu might or miht not rock.
[05:36] <G3N3SIS> I don't want a command line based thing.
[05:36] <Stormx2> eneried: Macromedia is a company.
[05:36] <sain> J4kch, i don't want to install all programs and that
[05:36] <strabes> Zac1: where?
[05:36] <G3N3SIS> I'd rather just have a GUI.
[05:36] <jesse__> well i know both
[05:36] <sain> i just want to play Call of Duty
[05:36] <Dheeraj_k> Fortis: that i know but
[05:36] <frying_fish> G3N3SIS: why not, how do you access the server anyway?
[05:36] <Zac1> Removable drives
[05:36] <eneried> sain try Cedega
[05:36] <Stormx2> G3N3SIS: FireFTP is the way to go then
[05:36] <Fortis> Coral is a company too..
[05:36] <J4kch> sain: well, you need either Wine or Cedega for that...
[05:36] <Unimatrix9> sain, for gamers windows is still the platform
[05:36] <Dheeraj_k> but i found it little bit slow
[05:36] <G3N3SIS> Well, I like the ftp GUI's.
[05:36] <sain> ok i will try wine or cedega
[05:36] <jesse__> yeh
[05:36] <G3N3SIS> Yeah, I'm gonna go grab Cedega now.
[05:36] <Unimatrix9> sain look here
[05:36] <Unimatrix9> http://frankscorner.org/
[05:36] <J4kch> sain: Cedega is best, but you gotta pay
[05:36] <eneried> G3N3SIS fireftp plugin for firefox
[05:36] <Fortis> Cedega is paid
[05:36] <frying_fish> cedega cost monies.
[05:37] <Fortis> Wine is free
[05:37] <strabes> Zac1: say my name when you're talking to me so that I get notified. make sure that automounting of your mp3 player or anything else that could relate to your device is checked.
[05:37] <G3N3SIS> had it on windows eneried.
[05:37] <nothlit> You can use cedega cvs
[05:37] <G3N3SIS> It was decent.
[05:37] <Stormx2> G3N3SIS: Cedega costs. Why do you need wine anyway. What app you emulating?
[05:37] <Fortis> The only thing cedega has is directX
[05:37] <Warbo> Cedega CVS is free, but doesn't have copy-protection-breakingness (for legal reasons)
[05:37] <sain> is wine as good as cedega though?
[05:37] <G3N3SIS> I want to emulate PS.
[05:37] <eneried> Fortis, you must pay to for Call of Duty
[05:37] <G3N3SIS> Sain: You can use the CVS
[05:37] <Zac1> strabes: what, ok
[05:37] <Dheeraj_k> i am looking for technical detail about apt.
[05:37] <frying_fish> spx2: edit your xorg.conf for the mouse to say /dev/input/event1 for now
[05:37] <sain> i might just boot up windows to play it
[05:37] <Stormx2> G3N3SIS: Try GIMP-Shop. its not as good but meh. You get used to it. Personally I emulate Paint Shop Pro 7
[05:37] <sain> too much hassles
[05:37] <frying_fish> instead of mouse1
[05:37] <Dheeraj_k> any site?
[05:38] <Warbo> G3N3SIS: Take a look through the repositories, I think there are playstation emulators in there
[05:38] <eneried> sain, wine is as good if you take your time tunning it
[05:38] <Warbo> oops
[05:38] <J4kch> sain: Good thinking
[05:38] <Warbo> photoshop?
[05:38] <Warbo> sorry
[05:38] <Stormx2> Dheeraj_k: Google is your friend.
[05:38] <DralaFi> Dheeraj_k, google might know. You could also read the source.
[05:38] <G3N3SIS> Well, I am fine with making the image, just I need to slice my layouts.
[05:38] <Fortis> !apt
[05:38] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:38] <Dheeraj_k> i want to integrate it with mysql
[05:38] <Stormx2> Dheeraj_k: In what way?
[05:38] <strabes> Zac1: make sure "Mount Remavable drives when hot-plugged" and "Mount removable media when inserted" are checked
[05:38] <frying_fish> and spx2 it shoudl be mouse0 currently not mouse1 as thats your touchpad.  I would also suggest learning how to write a udev rule for it and make it appear somewhere different and use that other place.
[05:38] <eneried> Stormx", G3N3SIS, there's a problem in gimp, it cannot work with ymck, and it is essential to designers, if you only need web design GIMP is the best option you could make
[05:38] <RichiH> Stormx2: more work than privilege ;)
[05:39] <Unimatrix9> sain, you could play american army its a first shooter game too, or enemy territory
[05:39] <strabes> !dmesg | Zac1
[05:39] <J4kch> I'm having problems downloading stuff with Synaptic and Aptitude, anyone care to help?
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmesg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <sain> Dheeraj_k, you want to integrate apt with mysql?
[05:39] <G3N3SIS> what;s ymck
[05:39] <Dybber> How do I get Java running in Firefox? I can run java applications just fine, but applets doesnt work. (Im using edgy)
[05:39] <Warbo> I hear Krita does CYMK, but I have not used it yet
[05:39] <Dheeraj_k> to keep the package detail in database
[05:39] <sain> Unimatrix9, castle wolfenstein
[05:39] <mama> hey i have a question every time i go to a website like youtube the page crashes....HELP :)
[05:39] <Unimatrix9> yeah
[05:39] <Stormx2> eneried: It cannot work with YMCK? YMCK is a japanese 8-bit band I quite like...
[05:39] <Unimatrix9> thats the one
[05:39] <J4kch> mama: What browser you using?
[05:39] <Zac1> Strabes: It is checked? What next
[05:39] <strabes> Zac1: you need to figure out where your device is located in /dev, so then you can manually mount it.
[05:39] <mama> firefox
[05:39] <sain> Dheeraj_k, so pull down the package details into a table
[05:40] <J4kch> mama: Weird, firefox never gave me no trouble
[05:40] <G3N3SIS> Wait, what's YCMK or whatever?
[05:40] <eneried> G3N3SIS a color space based on substraction, opossed to RGB bassded on addition, CMYK fits with printer machines RGB fits with screens
[05:40] <G3N3SIS> oh.
[05:40] <Warbo> G3N3SIS: A way of defining colour, useful for printing
[05:40] <Stormx2> YMCK is a good band tho xD
[05:40] <G3N3SIS> Well still, isn't that different from what I need?  I just need to slice layouts.
[05:40] <DralaFi> Yellow Cyan Magenta blacK
[05:40] <mama> any suggestions?
[05:40] <morphir> Dybber, get automatix2
[05:40] <jesse__> i'm back again
[05:40] <J4kch> mama: You have the latest version right?
[05:40] <Stormx2> Dybber: Ignore that advice given by morphir
[05:40] <Dheeraj_k> so that when i'll fireup apt-get install package it should check database and fetch package from repo
[05:41] <mama> i think so?
[05:41] <Zac1> Strabes: What is a possible device name for an mp3 player
[05:41] <Dybber> Stormx2, whats your advice then?
[05:41] <jesse__> any question?
[05:41] <Stormx2> Dybber: easyubuntu
[05:41] <sain> Dheeraj_k, yeah, you'll have to put the records into the database yourself though
[05:41] <morphir> Stormx2, why is that?
[05:41] <eneried> Stormx2, G3N3SIS, CMYK is needed to make colors on printed works match the colors you selected
[05:41] <J4kch> mama: sorry, can't help ya =/
[05:41] <Stormx2> Dybber: or just reading the pages. Automatrix breaks stuff
[05:41] <strabes> Zac1: it's going to be like /dev/sda1 or something but you're going to have to dmesg it
[05:41] <Warbo> no Broadcom networking help then?
[05:41] <Stormx2> !automatrix
[05:41] <mama> i tired to instill flash player again
[05:41] <Dheeraj_k> as a part of my college project
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automatrix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <sain> Dheeraj_k, should be easy enough to script with php/perl etc
[05:41] <strabes> Zac1: just search ubuntuforums.org
[05:41] <Stormx2> !automatix
[05:41] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:41] <G3N3SIS> I don't need to print anything out.
[05:42] <Dheeraj_k> dms == desktop management system
[05:42] <G3N3SIS> I just need to be able to slice the layout's into tables and then code it and use it on the internet.
[05:42] <eneried> G3N3SIS,  then use gimp instead
[05:42] <prudhvi_> Hi, is it possible to install Ubuntu as guest Operating system under RH based systems?
[05:42] <morphir> Stormx2, works for me :)
[05:42] <Zac1> Strabes: there is sda and sda1
[05:42] <Stormx2> G3N3SIS: The GIMP caaan do that.
[05:42] <Dheeraj_k> sain: i am not a fan of php i may code it in java >>ejb
[05:42] <eneried> G3N3SIS, Gimp works on linux and windows so you can work on onw system, change an contuiinue in the other
[05:42] <sain> Dheeraj_k, the overhead of java would be overkill on such a project
[05:43] <sain> Dheeraj_k, but yeah, whatever
[05:43] <J4kch> I'm having problems downloading stuff with Synaptic and Aptitude, anyone care to help?
[05:43] <eneried> G3N3SIS, ok, then look for a dreamweaver alternative, right?
[05:43] <vinicri> i'm using kubuntu, early i was with ubuntu and its gnome interface, either with one or another, it seems a little bit to me that the visual inter
[05:43] <G3N3SIS> Guys, look I already know that.  I have most of the opensource software on Windows.  I want to know if I can slice with Gimp.  If so, where is the feature.
[05:43] <sain> the way Dreamweaver writes broken code is so cool
[05:43] <Dheeraj_k> http://www.apt-get.org/ where is the documentation? and source code?
[05:43] <sain> i wish every developer used it
[05:43] <Rookie_> !nvidia
[05:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:44] <G3N3SIS> I can live without it.
[05:44] <G3N3SIS> Where is the slicing feature in GIMP
[05:44] <eneried> i can told you NVU, but NVU is freezed from last year, somebody else make...kompozer based on NVU fixing the bugs of NVU
[05:44] <strabes> G3N3SIS: you mean CROP? not SLICE? it's the tool that looks like a razorblade
[05:44] <eyalw> jrib: hi again. I have an idea to my sound problem, tell me what u think, I read some pages, and they suggested installing the windows codecs and then the gstreamer-totem-firefox-plugin packege, u think this will help?
[05:44] <Zac1> how do you mount an mp3 player?
[05:44] <Fortis> Genesis: Try google
[05:44] <Afief> Has a solution been found for the IPW2200 frimware problem in edgy?
[05:44] <G3N3SIS> No no, I want to SLICE.  I have googled it before Fortis.
[05:44] <Fortis> Genesis: OK
[05:44] <strabes> Zac1: I told you: yours is not automounting so just search ubuntuforums for that question - it's a common one
[05:44] <G3N3SIS> Slice to cut the layout into pieces.  It then turns it into tables using the images.
[05:45] <sain> G3N3SIS, but the simple answer is; you won't find that functionality easily from GIMP like with photoshop
[05:45] <eneried> G3N3SIS, tell me what slice does and i can help you
[05:45] <spx2> unimatrix9 , jesse__ ?
[05:45] <vinicri>  i'm using kubuntu, early i was with ubuntu and its gnome interface, either with one or another, it seems a little bit to me that the visual plataform work with lag. I dont know if its memory, that i have only 256MB. is it the problem?
[05:45] <G3N3SIS> I just did Eneried.
[05:45] <J4kch> vinicri: That's most likely the problem
[05:45] <eneried> hehe, yes
[05:45] <sain> G3N3SIS, our designer went down the same path and ended up back at photoshop
[05:45] <Fortis> Genesis: offtopic: Why you use tables? Use CSS :)
[05:45] <eneried> vinicri, maybe
[05:45] <jrib> eyalw: does this work: '
[05:45] <jesse__> spx2:> i here
[05:45] <G3N3SIS> haha ok sain.
[05:46] <jrib> eyalw: does this work: 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav' ?
[05:46] <G3N3SIS> I'll just have to go back to Windows for this stuff then.
[05:46] <vinicri> can i do something to solve this before buy more memory
[05:46] <eneried> Fortis, tables are a really good alternative, i'm with G3N3SIS, in that thing
[05:46] <J4kch> g3n3sis: Dual bootage
[05:46] <jesse__> spx2:> i'm here
[05:46] <G3N3SIS> That leads me to my second question.  If i'm ultimately going to use this for a while, then I need Ventrilo, as well as Mplayer I believe it is to support my codecs for anime.
[05:46] <Tominator> hi @ll
[05:46] <bonggnu> hi, my apache2 seems does not support mysql database, but i have installed the mods, how can i fix it ?
[05:46] <eneried> G3N3SIS a virtual machine
[05:46] <G3N3SIS> Yeah, I'll jsut boot back to Windows for my web-dev stuff.
[05:46] <Fortis> Are there really no tools for slicing?
[05:47] <sain> tables are used for tabled data ... lol, i love when i see someone trying to do tabled data purely in CSS
[05:47] <J4kch> vinicri: is switching back to Gnome an option?
[05:47] <Tominator> I've got a problem using the nvidia1.0-9629 running ubuntu egdy eft...
[05:47] <Tominator> When I start something in fullscreenmode, my Xserver collapses, and wine won't run! is there a bug fix in the newer driver-versions? or is there another problem?
[05:47] <eneried> G3N3SIS, instaling a vitual machine let you run windows inside linux,
[05:47] <spx2> jesse__ it seems all have let me down
[05:47] <sain> it's like "i'll never use tables again! No matter what!"
[05:47] <G3N3SIS>  Mplayer, is that a good player for video as well as music?  I know VLC didn't have an official release for *nix
[05:47] <spx2> jesse__ i don't have any support any more
[05:47] <Fortis> sain: When you use slice, I think you don't want to table data
[05:47] <spx2> :(
[05:47] <G3N3SIS> brb
[05:47] <sain> Fortis, you don't know the procedure he is trying to do
[05:48] <sain> it involved tables, unfortunately
[05:48] <jesse__> spx2:> last resort is to go and buy a dell usb optical wheel  mouse
[05:48] <Fortis> What is he trying then? :)
[05:48] <sain> he is trying to replicate what Dreamweaver does with slices
[05:48] <nothlit> G3N3SIS, yes it does video just as well as music, but you might have to choose a -vo
[05:48] <jesse__> :(
[05:48] <sain> where you can slice up the image and put it into tables for display
[05:49] <Fortis> Oh well, it's fine
[05:49] <nothlit> G3N3SIS, you should use gmplayer, also mencoder transcodes videos great as well but vlc has the most built in codecs
[05:49] <jesse__> spx2:> still there?
[05:49] <J4kch> So uh, anyone feel like helping me out? =P
[05:49] <Fortis> Genesis is 'brb'
[05:49] <vinicri> J4kch: it seems to me that gnome works slower than kde here
[05:49] <eyalw> jrib: yes
[05:49] <jesse__> j4kch:>yeb what is it
[05:50] <Fortis> Gnome is slower than KDE
[05:50] <J4kch> jesse__: W: Failed to fetch http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_1.13.11ubuntu7_i386.deb
[05:50] <J4kch>   Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[05:50] <jrib> eyalw: then you have sound :)  What isn't working exactly?  (other than flash)
[05:50] <freight> I have geforce 6600GT and ubuntu default install.why?
[05:50] <J4kch> jesse__: This is what happens when I try updating with Aptitude or downloading stuff with Synaptic
[05:50] <jesse__> j4kch:>let me get it
[05:50] <freight> sorry
[05:50] <eyalw> jrib: but let me update u, remember i said i cant hear sound at all adter i restarted. then i removed alsa-oss, and restarted and it worked...
[05:50] <sain> J4kch, you are using a proxy?
[05:50] <vinicri> how can i get the used memory on konsole?
[05:50] <J4kch> sain: I might be
[05:51] <Dheeraj_k> can any body provide the link of apt source code?
[05:51] <eyalw> jrib: but my problem remains unsolved, flash wont play sound
[05:51] <freight> I have geforce 6600GT and ubuntu default install and it makes weird stripes. why!?
[05:51] <sain> J4kch, well you must be, because it's trying to retrieve from localhost :)
[05:51] <jrib> eyalw: hmm that's really strange.  I think your best option is to try the flash9 beta as it uses alsa by default
[05:51] <wy> Hi, I have a problem with /dev/dsp. It changes its mode to crw-rw----  every time I restart. But I want it to be globally readable and writable
[05:51] <J4kch> sain: foxy proxy is off (and that's firefox stuff)
[05:51] <eyalw> jrib: how can i get it?
[05:51] <sain> J4kch, if you did "wget http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_1.13.11ubuntu7_i386.deb" what happens?
[05:51] <jrib> !flash9 | eyalw
[05:51] <ubotu> eyalw: You can download a Flash 9 installer here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/backports/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy).  If you use GDebi to install it, make sure you open its terminal window (to answer an installer question).
[05:52] <Seveas> !no flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[05:52] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[05:52] <sain> freight, stripey is the latest thing
[05:52] <freight> stri[es
[05:52] <boink> flash9 is too beta for me
[05:52] <freight> sain: it mkaes stripes after certian time.
[05:52] <J4kch> sain: bad port number
[05:53] <koos> hi, my dualscreen doesn't work... can someone help me?
[05:53] <eneried> boink use flash9 fron 3v1n0's repository or Gnash from same place instead
[05:53] <sain> use  a DOM method, it isn't html
[05:53] <jrib> eyalw: see what Seveas said
[05:53] <Zac1> strabes: I camt mount it!
[05:53] <sain> wrong window ^^
[05:53] <eneried> !codecs
[05:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:54] <Tominator> somebody knows, why my emerald always collapses
[05:54] <vinicri> how can i get the used memory on konsole?
[05:54] <jrib> vinicri: free -m
[05:54] <wy> Hi, I have a problem with /dev/dsp. It changes its mode to crw-rw----  every time I restart even though I changed its mode with chmod. But I want it to be globally readable and writable. How can I change it?
[05:54] <Zac1> !mp3 player
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <sain> J4kch, well you have a proxy setting somwhere, trying to connect to you own machine on port 4001
[05:55] <J4kch> sain: Sigh
[05:55] <eneried> Zac1, look for amarok, xmms or banshee
[05:55] <Zac1> where
[05:55] <eyalw> Seveas: from where u said?
[05:55] <sain> J4kch, look in synaptic or whatever it's called
[05:55] <jesse__> who needs dpkg
[05:55] <eneried> Zac1, they are on the repositories, they're music players
[05:56] <eneried> jesse__ synaptic and aptiotude need it
[05:56] <J4kch> Whoopsies
[05:56] <G3N3SIS> back, is there a certain way I should get mplayer?
[05:56] <G3N3SIS> can I just sudo apt-get install Mplayer?
[05:56] <sain> G3N3SIS, um, through the net?
[05:56] <sain> yeah baby
[05:56] <Zac1> i'll  install them
[05:56] <eneried> yes G3N3SIS you only need to add universe and multiverse repositories
[05:57] <J4kch> sain: I have a proxy, gona try to kill it now =)
[05:57] <sain> please don't bother with gmplayer or whatever the gnome montrosity is
[05:57] <vinicri> anybody knows a wmv codec that i can install with apt-get
[05:57] <eneried> Zac1 bansee and amarok look great, xmms resembles winamp2.x, but the menus are horrible
[05:57] <jesse__> eneried:>here you go
[05:57] <sain> J4kch, and change the settings that apt is looking for ... it's looking to connect to the proxy for some reason
[05:58] <rvalles> G3N3SIS, vinicri:
[05:58] <rvalles> !codecs
[05:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:59] <jesse__> eneried:>take it
[05:59] <vinicri> !codecs
[05:59] <G3N3SIS> !codecs
[05:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:59] <minerale> this may be a stupid question, but what's the difference between ubuntu server and debian ? -- whereas they are both being used remotely
[06:00] <eneried> jesse__ what are you sending me?
[06:00] <jesse__> eneried:>dpkg
[06:00] <minerale> ubotu needs some kind of timeout, one command may only be repeated 60 seconds or so
[06:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about needs some kind of timeout, one command may only be repeated 60 seconds or so - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <jesse__> who are you ubotu?
[06:01] <jesse__> ?
[06:01] <sain> jesse__, don't talk to him, he gets bitchy when he gets tired
[06:01] <J4kch> sain: problem remains -_-
[06:01] <sain> J4kch, are you using synaptic?
[06:01] <jesse__> sian:>oh.......... ok
[06:02] <J4kch> sain: using the software updates thing
[06:02] <jesse__> eneried:> are you getting it?
[06:02] <sain> J4kch, i'm not running ubuntu atm, or else i would help you track down where the proxy is set
[06:02] <jesse__> sian:>who is ubuto anyway?
[06:03] <jesse__> sian:>who is ubutu anyway?
[06:03] <sain> J4kch, there has to be someone else who knows around
[06:03] <J4kch> sain: alright, thanks for helping
[06:03] <Fortis> That's the bot
[06:03] <sain> jesse__, he's an angry young man
[06:03] <sain> very angry
[06:03] <jesse__> sian:>like an administrator
[06:03] <G3N3SIS> How do I kill a process?
[06:03] <jesse__> sian:>or what
[06:04] <TGPO> jesse__, its a bot
[06:04] <jrib> G3N3SIS: kill PID_OF_PROCESS
[06:04] <jesse__> geneis:>go to the system moniter
[06:04] <G3N3SIS> k thanks
[06:04] <jesse__> tpgo:>ok
[06:04] <eneried> sain, ubotu is an AI
[06:04] <graham_100> #wine-hq
[06:04] <J4kch> sain: why is jesse__ calling you sian?
[06:04] <jrib> G3N3SIS:  yeah system >  adminstration > system monitor  may be easier as jesse__ said
[06:04] <sain> eneried, i know, but why tell him?
[06:05] <jesse__> don't know
[06:05] <sain> J4kch, for the same reason he doesn't know ubotu is a bot
[06:05] <G3N3SIS> Yeah, it says sudo is in use by like dpkg
[06:05] <G3N3SIS> I want to kill that process so I can get in and use sudo
[06:05] <J4kch> sain: shouldn't the BOT part in it's name give it away?
[06:05] <jrib> G3N3SIS: paste the exact error.  And what command tells you taht?
[06:05] <sain> J4kch, for you and me maybe
[06:05] <jesse__> ok never mined
[06:05] <sain> doesn't ubuntu have 'pkill'?
[06:05] <G3N3SIS> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:05] <G3N3SIS> Trying to install codecs
[06:05] <jrib> sain: yes
[06:06] <TGPO> sain, yes
[06:06] <jrib> G3N3SIS: do you have synaptic open?
[06:06] <sain> then pkill that baby
[06:06] <G3N3SIS> Tryed opening it.
[06:06] <TGPO> G3N3SIS, bad idea interupting dpkg
[06:06] <G3N3SIS> Said that another process was using Sudo
[06:06] <G3N3SIS> Yeah, I had to, it was stuck.
[06:06] <wasabi> You're trying to kill sudo?
[06:06] <jrib> G3N3SIS: no, another process is using the apt database, not sudo
[06:06] <eneried> QUESTION: how to change the default media player?
[06:06] <graham_100> i have problems witgh that stupid programme Wine how do i get rid of it??
[06:06] <G3N3SIS> Should I relog?
[06:06] <wasabi> You should close the other process.
[06:06] <G3N3SIS> What process is it?
[06:06] <jesse__> be care ful with dpkg without it you can't install anything
[06:07] <wasabi> Probably synaptic or update-manager.
[06:07] <sain> graham_100, let's not get rid of it ... we'll look at the sources together and fix your problem
[06:07] <G3N3SIS> Nice, I got synaptic to open.
[06:07] <sain> graham_100, you get cracking on learning how to code
[06:07] <J4kch> g3n3sis: WOW! You're such a pro
[06:07] <jrib> graham_100: sudo aptitude purge wine
[06:07] <jesse__> got to go
[06:07] <wasabi> killing processes that are in /var/lib/dpkg is generally not safe.
[06:07] <wasabi> They locked it for a reason.
[06:07] <A[D] minS> i used bittorando client to download file.iso and the total size for file is 2.6Gb , but i rebooted my computer after 1.7Gb .. now i can't resume file to be 2.6G its says file already exist do u want to replace !!!
[06:07] <A[D] minS> any idea how to resume ?
[06:07] <G3N3SIS> No, I didn't kill anything.
[06:08] <graham_100> only reason i want rid is because itkeeps saying something about 3d driver not working after it already worked fine once
[06:08] <G3N3SIS> I attempted to, but it said the command didn't exist.
[06:08] <wceoscar> is xchat the best irc client for ubuntu?
[06:08] <jrib> !defaultapp | eneried
[06:08] <ubotu> eneried: To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[06:08] <jrib> !best | wceoscar
[06:08] <ubotu> wceoscar: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[06:08] <spx2> wceoscar irssi would be pretty good
[06:08] <eneried> A[D] minS: tell bittornado to recheck integrity on downloaded file
[06:08] <TGPO> wceoscar, is anchovies the best pizza topping?
[06:08] <spx2> jrib can you help me dude ?
[06:08] <sain> wceoscar, in other words, yes
[06:08] <G3N3SIS> It just wouldn't open because I ctrl+Z'd a sudo aptitude install
[06:08] <TGPO> wceoscar, no
[06:08] <sain> wceoscar, if you want a graphical IRC client
[06:08] <Hexidigital> i prefer IRSSI
[06:08] <eneried> A[D] minS: it works on azureus and utorrent, then i believe bittornado have an option for suh thing
[06:08] <sain> wceoscar, don't listen to them!
[06:09] <TGPO> bitchx
[06:09] <spx2> IRSSI !
[06:09] <sain> TGPO, gui
[06:09] <TGPO> sain your preaching opinion
[06:09] <jrib> spx2: what is wrong?
[06:09] <wceoscar> what other irc  client?
[06:09] <Fortis> XChat
[06:09] <sain> TGPO, he wants a graphical client
[06:09] <ks3> G3N3SIS, ctrl+z puts it in the background... could you have used fg to get it back?
[06:09] <eneried> QUESTION: nobody is reading me? how can i change the default media player?
[06:09] <jrib> eneried: scroll up, ubotu answered :)
[06:09] <spx2> jrib http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311462
[06:09] <sain> and no-one would choose bitchx over irssi
[06:10] <jesse__> system, preferences, mutilmudia system selecotr
[06:10] <TGPO> sain I do
[06:10] <spx2> wceoscar use IRSSI it is exactly what you need
[06:10] <J4kch> sain: Is there a fast way to download the all the updates rather than manually?
[06:10] <spx2> j4kch yes use apt-get
[06:10] <mwalling> !samba
[06:10] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:10] <Fortis> How can I run scripts by startup of my system?
[06:10] <J4kch> spx2: the problem is that apt-get won't connect =)
[06:10] <graham_100> sain what does this mean ??    libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4a
[06:10] <eneried> thanks jrib ;)
[06:11] <jesse__> thats bs
[06:11] <sain> someone tell J4kch where to set apts proxy
[06:11] <J4kch> someone tell me
[06:11] <jesse__> it should connect still bs
[06:11] <sain> graham_100, wel, what it says ... ditch the wine
[06:11] <wceoscar> ok.. i just installed amsn 0.95... and noticed that they realeased 0.96.... i downloaded the package now how can i install it with the synaptic?????
[06:11] <graham_100> sain it wont let me ditch wine! lol
[06:11] <graham_100> says it can't
[06:11] <sain> J4kch, i would help but i don't run ubuntu
[06:11] <jrib> J4kch: I think it uses $http_proxy but synaptic may have its own settins.  General proxy is in system > preferences
[06:11] <eneried> QUESTION: what is the best place to find a binary mplayer for edgy?
[06:12] <jesse__> go on synaptic, and click reload to refresh the rep.
[06:12] <jrib> eneried: in edgy multiverse
[06:12] <jrib> !multiverse | eneried
[06:12] <ubotu> eneried: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:12] <graham_100> sain so i guess because i don't know nuclear physics i can't get rid of it lol
[06:12] <livingdaylight> i want to open an application with wine but i don't see it in my list of 'open with application'
[06:12] <sain> J4kch, try that system>preferences for the proxy as jrib said
[06:12] <eneried> thanks jrib
[06:12] <J4kch> I'm there
[06:12] <sain> graham_100, you could slap it repeatedly
[06:13] <graham_100> sain that may work lol
[06:13] <sain> graham_100, worked with my gf
[06:13] <graham_100> lol
[06:13] <salkot> Is there any way to automatically give nm-applet access to my keyring?
[06:13] <jrib> J4kch: settings > preferences > network  is in synaptic as well
[06:14] <sain> keyring
[06:14] <sain> ok then
[06:14] <J4kch> jrib: It is in direct connection to the internet
[06:14] <wceoscar> ok.. i just installed amsn 0.95... and noticed that they realeased 0.96.... i downloaded the package now how can i install it with the synaptic?????
[06:14] <livingdaylight> Hallo Jungs!? i want to open something with wine, but i don't see it in my list
[06:14] <graham_100> sain when sudo tells you it does not have super cow powers what is that?
[06:14] <ac7ss> Any one know how to change the default keyboard layout in XFCE?
[06:14] <livingdaylight> yes, i have installed it
[06:14] <sain> graham_100, what about sudo -i
[06:15] <sain> graham_100, i mean su -i
[06:15] <Yggdrasil> hey can somone help me out, i have a situation where sometimes on boot,, my hald fails, eventualy it times out and i cant run gnome, kde and flux seem to start fine.
[06:15] <mydy> 
[06:15] <Z3dzDead> Does anyone know how i can test the browsing speed- want to know if its any better on linux (or is that just a myth?)
[06:15] <jrib> graham_100: don't you mean aptitude tells you that?
[06:15] <wceoscar> ok.. i just installed amsn 0.95... and noticed that they realeased 0.96.... i downloaded the package now how can i install it with the synaptic?????
[06:15] <juliux> hi all i have a problem with cups if i try to install cups i get this error http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/5668/
[06:15] <graham_100> sain i think ui will format and start again
[06:16] <wceoscar> ok.. i just installed amsn 0.95... and noticed that they realeased 0.96.... i downloaded the package now how can i install it with the synaptic?????
[06:16] <graham_100> then i have to do that stupid  wireless card setup
[06:16] <klm-> is there a 'setting wizard' for ubuntu with which I could save my contemporary settings (programs installed, bookmarks, stuff like that) and then install a new clean version from scratch and make the wizard install all my previous settings?
[06:16] <eneried> Yggdrasil boot gnome with a different user, if gnome works bad the problem is in gnome if not the problem is in your gnome config,m then go to your home dir and fix gnome config files and folders..
[06:16] <J4kch> jrib: I'm on the network preferences, everything looks normal
[06:16] <graham_100> oh well
[06:16] <sain> graham_100, haha you gotta enjoy doing it or there's no point :)
[06:17] <jrib> J4kch: echo $http_proxy
[06:17] <lumpki> wceoscar, is it a deb file?
[06:17] <ac7ss> anyone use XFCE?
[06:17] <sain> J4kch, have you set up iptables with some frontend?
[06:17] <Yggdrasil> eneried, really ? it seems as if the hald layer .. whatever that is eeds to be fixed, something with hardware abstraction.
[06:17] <|ID|Tigerman[X64> probably a stupid question, but is there a way to write a new superblock when fsck dont feel like fixing anything?
[06:17] <sain> J4kch, i'm thinking maybe you set up a transparent proxy in iptables
[06:17] <J4kch> jrib: http://localhost:4001
[06:18] <jrib> J4kch: well there you go
[06:18] <eneried> but if another user could start the gnome the hald setting is only to your user
[06:18] <eneried> Yggdrasil:
[06:18] <J4kch> sain: not to my knowledge but I do a lot of stuff without my knowledge =P
[06:18] <ks3> Tigerman, there are alternate superblocks throughout the partition
[06:18] <Yggdrasil> ill try it eneried
[06:19] <Tigerman> ks3 and using them to run fsck, I still get the message that the superblock is fubar..
[06:19] <sain> J4kch, heh theres' your problem, it is connecting to your machine port 4001
[06:19] <J4kch> jrib: So now how do I fix it?
[06:19] <eneried> ;)
[06:19] <eneried> i have to go now
[06:19] <eneried> thanks for the help
[06:19] <J4kch> sain: so now what?
[06:19] <eneried> ;)
[06:20] <jrib> J4kch: do you need to use a proxy?  Try    export http_proxy=""     and then run aptitude again
[06:20] <woro2006> how can I export my evolution calendar for viewing on the web?
[06:20] <ks3> Tigerman, you can do mke2fs -n /dev/xxxx to get a list of all alternate superblocks, and try each one.... hopefully one is good
[06:20] <sain> J4kch, yeah, do that (assuming you are running bash, which you probably are)
[06:20] <sain> J4kch, what jrib said
[06:21] <sain> J4kch, and all your problems should dissappear :)
[06:21] <Tigerman> ks3: but when i fix problems on the hdd (actually its hdc :p) using a different superblock, it wont cause new problems, or?
[06:21] <jrib> well J4kch should find out how that got set since it will probably get reset when you reboot
[06:21] <wceoscar> its a DBL file
[06:21] <ks3> Tigerman, shouldn't... i've used it successfully once or twice
[06:21] <wceoscar> DB!!!!!!!!!!
[06:22] <mwalling> is there a known problem with us.archive.ubuntu.com right now?
[06:22] <sain> jrib, yeah, or just set in in his .profile
[06:22] <ompaul> mwalling, put it in your web browser
[06:22] <Tigerman> ks3: /dev/hdc is apparently un use by the the system; will not make a filesystem here!
[06:22] <J4kch> sain, jrib: Problem remains
[06:23] <mwalling> ompaul: its been loading for ~1 minute now
[06:23] <ks3> Tigerman, so, it's already mounted?
[06:23] <ompaul> mwalling, and from in excess of 4k miles I can say no there ain't
[06:23] <jrib> J4kch: what is the error
[06:23] <Tigerman> ks3 nop
[06:23] <sain> J4kch, what is the $http_proxy now?
[06:23] <ompaul> mumbles-off, why do nick spam?
[06:23] <J4kch> sain: still localhost
[06:23] <lumpki> wceoscar, you need to get the .deb file for ubuntu
[06:23] <ks3> Tigerman, hmmmm, for some reason fsck thinks so... does it show up in /proc/mounts?
[06:23] <mwalling> ompaul: 100% packetloss
[06:23] <Tigerman> just rebooted and didnt mount anything afterwards..
[06:24] <ompaul> mwalling, well not from this side of the atlantic - check your upstream
[06:24] <mwalling> ubuntu.com/wiki is fine
[06:24] <ks3> Tigerman, or perhaps another fsck / mkfs process has it opened?
[06:24] <ompaul> mwalling, different machines
[06:24] <ompaul> mwalling, in different locations
[06:24] <stoorty> what repositry do i need to get ntfs-3g ?
[06:24] <Tigerman> ks3: nope
[06:25] <stoorty> !ntfs-3g
[06:25] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[06:25] <sain> J4kch, so you did; export $http_proxy=""
[06:25] <J4kch> sain: Whoops, forgot the $
[06:26] <sain> ok, once the $http_proxy isn't localhost, try it
[06:26] <J4kch> sain: Now I get a bunch of invalid identifier stuff
[06:26] <ompaul> mumbles, you are in a channel with 1k people and if they all did that it would be unsuable do this     >>/away put your reason here<< and then no one except the person who wants you knows that your off and we can all live in peace
[06:26] <PiTcReW> hmm
[06:26] <ompaul> s/unsuable/unusable/g
[06:26] <mumbles> sory ompaul  i normlay do - my irc crashed
[06:26] <Tigerman> ks3: its not in /proc/mounts..  and there is no other mkfs/fsck processes running..
[06:26] <PiTcReW> can someone help me?
[06:27] <ompaul> k
[06:27] <PiTcReW> i can't get mp3's to play
[06:27] <mumbles> and bnc went into action :(
[06:27] <sain> J4kch, ok one sec ... i don't use bash
[06:27] <jrib> J4kch: no, you don't use $ with export
[06:27] <PiTcReW> nevermind
[06:27] <stekotzurivychps> is it possible that vnc seems faster than windows remote desktop to me?
[06:27] <sain> J4kch, yeah
[06:28] <mwalling> ompaul: its back. lathargic, but back
[06:28] <ompaul> J4kch, export http_proxy=http://your.proxy.whatever:PORT_NUMBER
[06:28] <ks3> Tigerman, okay, how about mke2fs -F -n /dev/hdc1 (or whichever partition on hdc...)
[06:28] <jrib> J4kch: export http_proxy="" && echo $http_proxy       this should work
[06:28] <sindrum> pitcrew:ill try
[06:28] <ompaul> J4kch, also export ftp_proxy=http://your.proxy.whatever:PORT_NUMBER   (if it does the ftp also)
[06:28] <sain> ompaul, we want to get rid of his proxy setting
[06:28] <Tigerman> ks3: ill try that..
[06:28] <sindrum> pitcrew:what are you using to play them with
[06:29] <mateusz> hi
[06:29] <ompaul> sain, from? web browser or apt?
[06:29] <J4kch> jrib: it appears blank
[06:29] <justin_> Why does my "add/remove" programs always tell me my list is out of date no matter how many times I reload or update it? -- and even update apt- it still tells me this
[06:29] <jrib> J4kch: great, that's what we want right?
[06:29] <sain> J4kch, now try
[06:29] <Sikavica> How can I make rsh trusting my localhost? (putting localhost in .rhost, doesn't seem to work)
[06:29] <sain> ompaul, apt ... it was using the proxy
[06:29] <J4kch> jrib: still can't get the updates
[06:30] <ompaul> sain, very easy in synaptic
[06:30] <jrib> J4kch: are you doing 'sudo aptitude update' in the same terminal?
[06:30] <sain> ompaul, than talk him through it ... i don't run ubuntu :)
[06:30] <Tigerman> ks3: that got me a superblock list, yeah
[06:30] <ompaul> sain, seems he is getting enough help
[06:30] <ks3> Tigerman, excellent
[06:30] <sain> ompaul, only noticed his problem was that he was connecting to a proxy running on his local machine
[06:30] <J4kch> jrib: Not using terminal at all
[06:31] <Tigerman> ks3: 14 of them.. now i just need to hope one of them works?
[06:31] <jrib> J4kch: right, that variable was only reset in the terminal you issued that export command
[06:31] <salkot> justin_, maybe the date on your computer is wrong?
[06:31] <PiTcReW> hmm
[06:31] <PiTcReW> how do i change my screen resolution to 1440x900??
[06:31] <PiTcReW> its not in the list of resolutions
[06:31] <J4kch> jrib: Ohhh, I see what you did there
[06:32] <ks3> Tigerman, yep, one of them should be good
[06:32] <Tigerman> is there anyone more likely than the other ones?
[06:32] <J4kch> jrib: Alright, got the updates but Synaptic still won't work
[06:33] <ompaul> J4kch, are you in a terminal?
[06:33] <ks3> Tigerman, you could start with the last one, but it's hard to say...
[06:33] <J4kch> ompaul: yes
[06:33] <jrib> J4kch: ok, because outside your terminal http_proxy is still set to localhost:4001.  You have to find out what is setting it to that
[06:33] <Tigerman> i started with the 2nd to last :p
[06:33] <ompaul> J4kch, have you got synaptic open?
[06:33] <J4kch> jrib: alright
[06:33] <sain> J4kch, also until you find out what's setting up the proxy, you should put the export http_proxy="" in your $HOME/.bashrc
[06:33] <J4kch> ompaul: yes
[06:33] <lumpki> PiTcReW, to reconfigure X, do 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[06:33] <ompaul> %help
[06:33] <ubotu> (help [<plugin>]  [<command>] ) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[06:33] <ompaul> J4kch, close it please
[06:33] <J4kch> ompaul: closed
[06:34] <ompaul> J4kch, please type >> sudo apt-get update << and tell me if it works or throws an error
[06:34] <lumpki> PiTcReW, that's 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' of course
[06:34] <J4kch> ompaul: gives error, but >> echo $http_proxy << shows localhost
[06:35] <bariel> hello, which tool i can use to combine pdfs file?
[06:35] <ompaul> Gwaihir, TURN OFF your away message - if it happens again I will ban you
[06:35] <PiTcReW> thanks lumpki
[06:35] <PiTcReW> this is my first day using linux so i didnt know
[06:35] <lumpki> np
[06:35] <Gwaihir> ompaul: sorry...
[06:35] <ompaul> J4kch, are you running squid or some such?
[06:36] <J4kch> ompaul: don't think so
[06:36] <ompaul> Gwaihir, k - please turn it off
[06:36] <PiTcReW> could someone tell me why kaffeine player attempts to play an mp3 file for a second or so and then stops?
[06:37] <ompaul> J4kch, in the terminal do this >> ps awux | grep squid | grep -v squid <<  does that give you any result?
[06:37] <PiTcReW> however rhythmbox works
[06:37] <J4kch> ompaul: nothing
[06:37] <ompaul> PiTcReW, that would be better asked in "#kubuntu"
[06:38] <sain> J4kch, from a quick google the most popular proxy using port 4001 is Java Anonymous Proxy ... you aren't using that , are you?
[06:38] <PiTcReW> thanks
[06:38] <J4kch> sain: was, uninstalled it
[06:38] <sain> J4kch, ah we get closer :)
[06:38] <ompaul> J4kch,  so it looks like you are not, so let us do this the easy gui way type >> gksu /usr/sbin/synaptic <<
[06:39] <HumanPrototype> hi all
[06:39] <ompaul> J4kch, tell me when it is launched
[06:39] <HumanPrototype> has anybody here tried customizing the ubuntu install cd?
[06:39] <J4kch> ompaul: launched
[06:40] <ompaul> J4kch, click settings -> network  and choose direct conneciton to internet
[06:40] <ompaul> J4kch, THEN choose apply
[06:40] <J4kch> ompaul: setting, preferences, network and done
[06:40] <jrib> J4kch, sain, ompaul: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=310& seems familiar
[06:41] <sain> ompaul, he says he was using JAP proxy, and uninstalled it. For some reason it is still trying to use the proxy ...
[06:41] <ompaul> J4kch, now with that all okay and saved and whatever - click reload
[06:41] <bxnp> could somebody confirm that www.gnome-look.org is down
[06:41] <ompaul> sain, well he should not be pointing at it now :)
[06:41] <bobbyshafter> I am in the process of installing edgy in a dual boot . I disconnected my primary which has xp on it ,my bios will not boot with my seconary set as slave ,i remove the jumper now i can boot from the edgy cd. Will i be able to reconnect both drives has there are ,select which os useing my bios
[06:41] <J4kch> ompaul: cannot download all repository indexes
[06:42] <sain> ompaul, yes, 'shouldn't be', but is ... maybe not purged
[06:43] <HumanPrototype> has anybody here tried customizing the ubuntu install cd?
[06:43] <ompaul> sain, well his software should not be using it now if he has done what I said
[06:43] <sain> jrib, yeah, that looks right
[06:43] <ompaul> HumanPrototype, there is something on the wiki and there is gnewsense
[06:44] <sain> J4kch, so you've done "apt-get --purge remove anon-proxy"
[06:44] <lumpki> bxnp, it's not responding
[06:44] <ompaul> HumanPrototype, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/Dapper
[06:44] <Tigerman> ks3: when you use the alternate superblocks to (try) to fix the fs, is it normal to get like 1k+ errors?
[06:44] <ompaul> sain, that was the gui thing I just did :)
[06:44] <justin_> :/
[06:44] <ks3> Tigerman, if there are lots of file system errors (which there very likely are if the superblock is corrupt)
[06:44] <sain> ompaul, ah ok, i'll leave it in your capable hands
[06:45] <sain> ompaul, just his $http_proxy keeps getting set back to localhost ....
[06:45] <J4kch> sain: It's uninstalled
[06:45] <jamesbrose> Has anybody else noticed the problem with VMware Player?
[06:45] <bxnp> there are rumors that the site is hacked
[06:45] <jamesbrose> It doesn't work for me.
[06:45] <Zaggynl> Hi, I've found this nice app on freshmeat, and I made a .deb file out of it, where can I propose to let this be added in the repository?
[06:45] <justin_> When VLC starts like.. skipping frames what could it be? - I know it is not the video because it does not skip on otehr machines, and I did a fresh reboot?
[06:45] <dcordes> how can i resume files in firefox?
[06:45] <ompaul> sain, I think what happened is that sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename was not doen
[06:45] <justin_> dcordes: you can't
[06:45] <ompaul> done that is
[06:46] <dcordes> justin_: no way?
[06:46] <justin_> dcordes: You only can in Opera by default, im sure there is a firefox extension for it
[06:46] <ompaul> justin_, it could be DMA
[06:46] <justin_> ompaul: You think? ..
[06:46] <ompaul> justin_, I know :)
[06:46] <J4kch> ompaul, sain: "Package anon-proxy is not installed so not removed"
[06:46] <ompaul> justin_, that is a 99% case
[06:46] <justin_> ompaul: Haha strange because it did not do it in Xubuntu, only does it in Ubuntu..
[06:46] <nothlit> dcordes, there are tons of download manager extensions in firefox
[06:46] <justin_> ompaul: Hrmm, have any quick solutions?
[06:47] <nothlit> for firefox*
[06:47] <sain> ompaul, yeah ... not being on ubuntu, how does he know make sure all the anon-proxy files are purged?
[06:47] <justin_> ohhh...
[06:47] <bobbyshafter> any help on yhe dual boot
[06:47] <sain> J4kch, yeah, it may be that when you removed it you didn't use the 'purge' argument, so didn't remove all the files
[06:47] <sindrum> dcordes you need the plugin
[06:47] <justin_> Maybe it will run fine in Flux :) -- I forgot Gnome uses more ram default then XFCE hehe.
[06:47] <justin_> let me go try that
[06:47] <ompaul> J4kch, but you did not did purge it first time out - you can reinstall and put it in again but just check now with the reload if it gets the files good if not then you might try a reinstall and a --purge
[06:47] <J4kch> sain: so I'd have to reinstall and purge?
[06:47] <Tigerman> ks3: "good"
[06:47] <J4kch> ompaul: mkay
[06:47] <nothlit> bobbyshafter, the desktop cd should automatically set that up for you with xp/ubuntu
[06:48] <sindrum> it use to be default but has changed
[06:48] <Tigerman> cause... i just had 2-3k errors :p
[06:48] <nothlit> bobbyshafter, if you have more than one linux  installation you'll have to edit grub
[06:49] <ompaul> J4kch, and note that you can't do sudo apt-get update and have synaptic open at the same time
[06:49] <wceoscar> what would be a good audio player?
[06:49] <ompaul> wceoscar, the default one, or xmms or whatever you like
[06:49] <wceoscar> ok
[06:49] <fuci> Why can't I change my resolution? It's in my xorg.conf file but it doesn't appear in the list in which you would normally change the resolution. I'm using Xubuntu.
[06:49] <bobbyshafter> hey i am using 2 drives and will boot from bios
[06:49] <J4kch> ompaul: I know that =P
[06:49] <sain> wceoscar, i like xmms
[06:50] <ompaul> !resolution | fuci
[06:50] <ubotu> fuci: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:50] <wceoscar> where can i get it in .deb?
[06:50] <fuci> ompaul: doesn't work.
[06:50] <HumanPrototype> ompaul, thanks - i had found the wiki page but i will look in to gnewsense
[06:50] <HumanPrototype> does anybody know what the rules are about using artwork deriving from the ubuntu logos for another project?
[06:50] <ompaul> J4kch, please understand, I don't know what you do or don't know, so I have to assumesomething
[06:51] <ompaul> HumanPrototype, you should not - as they are trademarks
[06:51] <J4kch> ompaul: true
[06:51] <sain> and it's mostly safe to assume you know nothing .... nothing!
[06:51] <sain> ;)
[06:51] <HumanPrototype> ompaul, so how are they used for things like nubuntu and xubuntu
[06:51] <sindrum> funci:you can reconfigure and select which resoulutions you can use
[06:51] <storkme> is it possible to install ubuntu server edition with the 6.06 install CD ? if so how
[06:52] <ompaul> HumanPrototype, they are part of the "ubuntu family" and approval was sought from canonical
[06:52] <fuci> sindrum: I did that, and after I did it. It doesn't work anymore.
[06:52] <Tigerman> ks3: now, if none of the superblocks will give me any good results, is that when i start crying, or is there a way to create a fresh, working, superblock?
[06:52] <grunt121-d8> hello?
[06:52] <wceoscar> where can i get the last xmms for ubuntu?
[06:52] <ks3> Tigerman, no way that I know of, short of reformmating the partition.... but that's no good...
[06:52] <J4kch> ompaul: I purged, but > echo $http_proxy < still shows localhost
[06:52] <sindrum> funci:dpkg-recofigure xserver-xorg
[06:52] <grunt121-d8> umm can sum 1 help me?
[06:52] <lumpki> fuci, did you restart X?
[06:52] <Tigerman> ks3: as i said.. "start crying" aka reformatting :p
[06:53] <fuci> lumpki: I did.
[06:53] <ks3> Tigerman, but if using one of the alternates started checking and came up with errors, it may be fixable
[06:53] <sindrum> funci:try that leaving everything as is except the resoulution
[06:53] <ks3> Tigerman, albeit, some data would be lost
[06:53] <ompaul> J4kch, reboot and see if it is there,
[06:53] <HumanPrototype> ompaul, ok, thanks
[06:53] <fuci> Well, doesn't hurt to try again. :p
[06:53] <fuci> Brb.
[06:53] <J4kch> ompaul: It also said "directory /var/run/anon-proxy not empty so not removed"
[06:53] <HumanPrototype> ompaul, how would I go about obtaining approval for a similar project?
[06:53] <sain> J4kch, doh, i assumed you rebooted :)
[06:53] <lumpki> wceoscar, use synaptic
[06:53] <grunt121-d8> sum 1 help me?
[06:53] <Tigerman> ks3: if i have to reformat the partition, all data will be lost as there is only one :p
[06:53] <ompaul> HumanPrototype, read the ubuntu website on trademarks
[06:53] <sain> J4kch, lol it's still running
[06:54] <lumpki> what is your question grunt121-d8?
[06:54] <ks3> Tigerman, well, yes
[06:54] <wceoscar> in synaptic it shows me like 100 files with xmms
[06:54] <marcin_ant> !raid
[06:54] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:54] <ks3> Tigerman, but, you can try fsck -b <alternate superblock> -y /dev/hdc1
[06:54] <grunt121-d8> i have doom 3 and i wanna know how to record a AVI demo
[06:54] <Tigerman> -y is? same as -p?
[06:54] <lumpki> wceoscar, just install 'xmms' and it will grab anything else it needs
[06:54] <HumanPrototype> storkme, not that I know of
[06:54] <ks3> Tigerman, the fsck -p option tries to safely prune the file system...  -y tells it to assume yes to all questions
[06:54] <fuci> Didn not work :/
[06:54] <wceoscar> ok
[06:55] <sindrum> funci:dont forget to reboot
[06:55] <stoorty> how do i get apt-get to work? it says it cannot open the lock file??
[06:55] <stoorty> !apt-get
[06:55] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:55] <ks3> Tigerman, slightly different, if i remember correctly... -y doesn't care about saving data, just getting the file system mountable (more or less)
[06:55] <Tigerman> hmm.. -p in the description says auto repair tho..
[06:55] <lumpki> stoorty, use sudo apt-get ...
[06:55] <MattJ> How do I change the TTY X runs on?
[06:55] <Launchpad-Lap> hey guys is there an irc client for 64bit ubuntu?
[06:55] <stoorty> still get the xsame error lumpki
[06:55] <ck3> grunt121-d8: http://vnc2swf.sourceforge.net
[06:55] <lumpki> stoorty, close synaptic
[06:56] <lumpki> =D
[06:56] <sain> J4kch, you sure anon-proxy is stopped?
[06:56] <Tigerman> anyways.. ill try -y instead.. still got 12 superblocks to hope for a result with :p
[06:56] <ck3>  is the http://us.archive.ubuntu.com mirror having issues?
[06:56] <stoorty> it is closed, i already done that lumpki
[06:56] <ompaul> sain, there is the most obvious one :-)
[06:56] <gop> !usb flash
[06:56] <HumanPrototype> stoorty, you cannot run apt-get twice at the same time so you cant have the update manager, synaptic, apt-get or aptitude going when you try and open one of them
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb flash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <gop> !flash
[06:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:56] <J4kch> sain: it said it wasn't running when I used killall
[06:56] <gop> !usb
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <gop> I got one question
[06:57] <ks3> Tigerman, good luck
[06:57] <ompaul> sain, get progam "bum" installed and use it to turn off that proxy item simple gui for daemon management
[06:57] <gop> is thier a version of ubuntu, or linux that boots from a usb flash disk
[06:57] <gop> 2 gig or one gig
[06:57] <stoorty> i only have the one terminal open and i was trying to apt get ntfs-3g but i get the lock error
[06:57] <ompaul> sain, I must depart
[06:57] <Launchpad-Lap> !irc
[06:57] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[06:57] <Tigerman> ks3: thanks, it appears ill need it :p
[06:57] <ompaul> l8r
[06:57] <sain> J4kch, get progam "bum" installed and use it to turn off that proxy item simple gui for daemon management
[06:57] <J4kch> well, I'm rebooting
[06:57] <gop> any here know, of a distro that support booting from usb
[06:57] <sain> J4kch, from ompaul
[06:57] <kitche> gop: dsl, slax is two
[06:57] <sain> J4kch, one sec
[06:57] <J4kch> sain: aight
[06:58] <fuci> Hmm, my system doesn't seem to go higher than 1280x960, normally I'd use 1280x1024
[06:58] <sain> J4kch, is there a anon-proxy.pid or similar in /var/run?
[06:58] <gop> oh kitche does it work like live, cd, as in after reboot I lose my infomation, kitche or it stores my information
[06:58] <gop> information
[06:58] <J4kch> sain: how do I check again? I forget
[06:58] <sindrum> funci:im not sure then...
[06:58] <sain> J4kch, ls /var/run in terminal
[06:59] <Lovloss> WEhenever I boot up it says my disk has errors i have to manually repair, and puts me in this shell.
[06:59] <J4kch> sain: right, well there is no .pid but there is anon-proxy
[06:59] <sain> J4kch, well reboot and see if it is still there
[06:59] <sain> J4kch, you should be ok
[06:59] <justin_> Well VLC works fine in Fluxbox.. so hmm I guess this :DMA: issue only occurs in Gnome ompaul ?
[06:59] <J4kch> sain: aight
[06:59] <fuci> All my fonts are messed up, this sucks :(
[06:59] <justin_> fuci: Go to preferences -> fonts
[07:00] <wceoscar> i just got XMMS but the volume doesnt works... it i try to lower it it wont...
[07:00] <justin_> wceoscar: Most likely another app has locked the sound controls.
[07:00] <Lovloss> is there a way to fsck my sda2? i cant really unmount it
[07:00] <sain> wceoscar, there is a setting in options for what mixer channel controls the volume
[07:00] <Lovloss> its my big data partition
[07:00] <justin_> You need to close the other app.. video player or even a flash vid, restart XMMS.
[07:01] <Lovloss> says /dev/sda2: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.
[07:01] <tryxter> hi everyone. i'm trying to install a D-Link DWL-G122 wlan usb stick for hours and still nothing. Can anyone give me an article or explain to me how to install it using WPA? please?
[07:01] <lumpki> stoorty, i think some other apt process must be running
[07:01] <tryxter> (i'm kind of a ubuntu newbie)
[07:01] <ademan> rather than using damn small linux or puppy linux, would it be possible for me to use gentoo to make my own minimal desktop, and then turn it into an ISO and then put it on a bootable thumbdrive?
[07:01] <justin_> By the way.. if your on big speakers you might want to change your XMMS options to OSS rather then Alsa, and click "master volume" controls.
[07:01] <wceoscar> What setting?
[07:01] <sain> ademan, it would be possible, but not reasonable
[07:02] <justin_> OSS sounds way better on big speakers :) -- especially for rock, Alsa works better for hiphop/dance/techno for some odd reason
[07:02] <ademan> sain: why not?
[07:02] <alecjw> ive got twinview working, but it's treating my CRT as the defualt display, wheras i want my DFP to be treated as defualt. how do i do this?
[07:02] <Lovloss> lets try this: is there any way for me to exit everything and get to the shell in such a way that i can dismount sda2 without my computer rebooting?
[07:02] <Lovloss> would umount -a work?
[07:02] <wceoscar> sain, whats that setting?
[07:02] <yannick_> "modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-amd64-generic/modules.dep: No such file or directory" using dapper. Does someone has ever seen such thing?
[07:03] <sain> wceoscar, options->preferences Then configure the output plugin under the Audio I/O plugins tab
[07:03] <Zehrila> God, why doesn't ubuntu come with a decent dial-up client? :(
[07:03] <Zehrila> How is one supposed to download one when one can't even connect?
[07:03] <kitche> Lovloss: do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop that will stop X and take you to the console
[07:03] <sain> ademan, because of the work involved, and the fact that gentoo like to build from source
[07:03] <fuci> The resolution & font problem is only when I log in with XFCE session, Gnome works fine.
[07:03] <sain> ademan, what do you have against damn small etc?
[07:04] <tryxter> can someone help me configuring my DWL-G122 stick? please!
[07:04] <justin_> Zehrila: Because most people are on broadband..
[07:04] <wceoscar> sain, there is no output plugin in the list...
[07:04] <justin_> Same reason Ubuntu does not ship with tons of DEV stuff, since most DEV's probably will not be using Ubuntu
[07:04] <sain> wceoscar, well that could be a problem :)
[07:04] <kitche> Zehrila: linux has a dial-up program go into networking and its the ppp connection
[07:04] <wceoscar> sain, i just found it
[07:04] <ademan> sain: i dunno i just kinda wanted to get newer releases of the involved software
[07:05] <lumpki> justin_, 50% of people still use dialup
[07:05] <wceoscar> sain, just fixed it
[07:05] <Zehrila> kitche: Ubuntu doesn't seem to have it.
[07:05] <sain> wceoscar, well then crank that puppy up
[07:05] <Zehrila> And justin_, isn't ubuntu the linux for everyone rather than for just those on broadband?
[07:05] <rummik> i just installed camorama and when it comes up it says it cannot connect to the video device (/dev/video0) however, lsmod says "videodev               11456  1 spca5xx" spca5xx is the module for my camera
[07:05] <wceoscar> i will ;)
[07:05] <sain> ademan, if it's any help, i did the same thing but with freebsd
[07:05] <wceoscar> hey
[07:05] <justin_> lumpki: Where ?
[07:05] <justin_> wow..
[07:06] <lumpki> everywhere
[07:06] <kitche> Zehrila: sure it does I m looking at mine right now, it should show a phone symbol next to it in the networking part it's under System -> networking
[07:06] <justin_> Why dial-up is almost as expensive as broadband
[07:06] <wceoscar> I Have like 39 of unallocated space... how can i partition it with ntfs or fat32???
[07:06] <wceoscar> 39gigs
[07:06] <lumpki> broadband is not available everywhere
[07:06] <defrysk> Zehrila, system > administration > networking
[07:06] <sain> wceoscar, well first, i'd recommend formatting with fat32 if you want windows interoperability
[07:07] <Zehrila> kitche: The one which you have to check/uncheck to enable/disable? If you're referring to that one, it does nothing for me when I check/uncheck even after enabling it in its properties.
[07:07] <ademan> sain: well alright thanks, at least i know its possible, now i just need to decide if that's what i want to do.  (In addition to wanting to have newer versions of things, i want a few extra programs i know are NOT bundled with dsl)
[07:07] <J4kch> Hey guys
[07:07] <J4kch> What's up?
[07:07] <kitche> !dialup|Zehrila
[07:07] <ubotu> Zehrila: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[07:07] <Zehrila> ubotu: Alright, lemme take a look.
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Alright, lemme take a look. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <TC`> !themes
[07:07] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:08] <sain> ademan, yeah, and remember you'll have to either compile the progs on the usb stick, or elsewhere then put the binaries and dependencies on the stick
[07:08] <Zehrila> BTW is there a way for me to download gnome-ppp while using windows and then install it from ubuntu? I've got one multiboot system.
[07:08] <sain> J4kch, so?
[07:08] <wceoscar> sain, i know that.. im sharing the space with windows... how can i partition the drive with fat?
[07:08] <Zehrila> gnome-ppp doesn't seem to be included with the gnome packages provided on CD.
[07:08] <J4kch> sain: Don't rush me! =P
[07:08] <sain> J4kch, lol
[07:08] <J4kch> sain: Echo looks fine
[07:09] <errorlevel> Zehrila: Yes.  Go on http://packages.ubuntu.com and find the .deb file.  Make sure you grab the dependencies if you need them.  Then you can install them from within ubuntu using dpkg -i filename.deb or dpkg -i filename1.deb filename2.deb ...
[07:09] <tryxter> ** dwl
[07:09] <sain> wceoscar, well you could use the install disk, would be easiest
[07:09] <J4kch> sain: anon-proxy is gone from /var/run
[07:09] <manmadha> hee when ever i delete certain files ..... *.*~ is forming.....What is the meaning of this...?
[07:09] <wceoscar> ok
[07:09] <sain> J4kch, cool, how about the ole update?
[07:10] <J4kch> sain: It's working!
[07:10] <J4kch> sain: I love you man, you and jrib and ompaul...
[07:10] <sain> J4kch, hot diggity dawg
[07:10] <Lapfunc> hi.  i installed enigma, and it changed my resolution down.  now that i've exited, it didn't change the resolution back up, and i can't seem to change it through system->administration.  the desktop is still 1024x768, but the screen is something like 640x480, and i have to move the mouse to the edge of the screen to scroll it
[07:10] <sain> J4kch, lol, if i had sussed out it was still running, we could have save many minutes :)
[07:10] <J4kch> sain: I want to have your child
[07:10] <manmadha> any body there?
[07:11] <sain> J4kch, so does the gf ... neither of you is getting it
[07:11] <Lapfunc> any ideas how i return my resolution to normal?
[07:11] <Zehrila> Thanks a lot errorlevel and kitche both. I think that's the stuff I needed.
[07:11] <J4kch> sain: Damn
[07:11] <mc44> !anybody | manmadha
[07:11] <ubotu> manmadha: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:11] <Zehrila> Lemme do the reading and see if I can figure it all out. =] 
[07:11] <stoorty> !fuse
[07:11] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:11] <salkot> Is there any way to automatically give nm-applet access to my keyring? I don't like typing in the password every boot.
[07:11] <sain> J4kch, so what's the next problem?
[07:12] <J4kch> sain: there isn't one, I just like hanging around here
[07:12] <sain> i wouldn't use NTFSFuse for *any* reason
[07:12] <manmadha> mc44, he if u know the answer then tell shere with us......Not to just scolding others..I know the rules
[07:12] <J4kch> sain: unless not finding anyone to play Catan with is a problem
[07:12] <redDEADresolve> my windows partition auto mounts on startup, how do i stop it from doing that ?
[07:12] <sain> J4kch, heh same
[07:12] <ademan> about how much does a default xubuntu or kubuntu install take up?
[07:12] <manmadha> mc44, what is u r problem?
[07:12] <sain> redDEADresolve, edit /etc/fstab
[07:13] <manmadha> redDEADresolve, u have to be root user
[07:13] <manmadha> redDEADresolve, try man fstab
[07:13] <redDEADresolve> thaks sudo gedit
[07:13] <manmadha> yaa
[07:13] <manmadha> ok
[07:13] <yakumo> hello, is it posiible to change one icon without affecting the others, beacase i setup a theme and icons but want the icon from another themes?
[07:13] <sain> manmadha, then look for the line that's mounting your windows partition
[07:13] <sindrum> anyone know how to get rid of move to trash on my right click menu...id hate to move shit to the trash wehn i have no trash can
[07:14] <redDEADresolve> ok i found it
[07:14] <sain> redDEADresolve, instead of removing the line, just put a # in front of it
[07:14] <sysrage> do i really have to install the million gnome deps if i wanna use democracy player in kubuntu?
[07:15] <defrysk> sysrage, yes
[07:15] <sysrage> bummer
[07:15] <redDEADresolve> sain got it, hashed it out, added noauto to it
[07:15] <nothlit> sysrage, theres a qt/kde version of democracy player
[07:15] <defrysk> sysrage, and count again
[07:15] <sain> redDEADresolve, hot dawg
[07:15] <manmadha> why  *~ are forming when i del perminantly ?
[07:15] <sysrage> nothlit: oh really? how do i install that?
[07:15] <redDEADresolve> thank you very much
[07:16] <Lapfunc> my screen is 640x480, but my desktop is 1024x768.  i can scroll around it just by moving my mouse to the edge of the screen.  is there a name for this feature so i can google a related problem?
[07:17] <nothlit> sysrage, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KatchTV
[07:17] <sysrage> ty
[07:18] <sysrage> oh, that's not really democracy
[07:18] <slop> is there a console command that will tell me what graphics card i am using?
[07:18] <Lapfunc> anyone?  this problem is incredibly annoying
[07:18] <nothlit> slop lshw -C display
[07:18] <sysrage> slop: lspci maybe
[07:19] <redDEADresolve> sain i just rebooted worked
[07:19] <sain> redDEADresolve, cool
[07:19] <slop> nothlit, sysrage, thanks
[07:19] <lumpki> Lapfunc, ctrl/alt/+ and ctrl/alt/-
[07:19] <Lapfunc> nothing
[07:19] <LjL> slop: lshw
[07:19] <redDEADresolve> but i still can't get my card reader to work
[07:19] <nothlit> sysrage, then i guess you need gtk libs
[07:19] <Lapfunc> lumpki: the resolution is stuck
[07:19] <defrysk> !fixres | Lapfunc
[07:19] <ubotu> Lapfunc: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:19] <manmadha> why  *~ are forming when i del perminantly ?
[07:20] <Lapfunc> ubotu: i wanted to do it without restarting x if possible.  is that the only way?
[07:20] <lumpki> manmadha, how exactly are you deleting... command line or what?
[07:20] <Lapfunc> ah sorry, missed that last bit
[07:20] <Lapfunc> i'll read that
[07:20] <manmadha> lumpki, shift+del
[07:20] <redDEADresolve> sain any helpful hints on that, last time i hashed out and added no auto to sda1 mounting parameters and it allowed my internal card reader to work
[07:20] <manmadha> i have to rm that shit
[07:20] <manmadha> *~
[07:21] <lumpki> in nautilus?
[07:21] <manmadha> nope
[07:21] <ademan> WOW, my usb disk is fat16
[07:21] <manmadha> on desktop
[07:21] <sain> redDEADresolve, hmm don't really know, sorry
[07:21] <princemackenzie> are bluefish/nvu the best choices for web authoring?
[07:21] <defrysk> rm /path/to/file
[07:21] <sain> redDEADresolve, don't have one
[07:22] <princemackenzie> !language | manmadha
[07:22] <ubotu> manmadha: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:22] <defrysk> rm -rf /path/to/folder/
[07:22] <redDEADresolve> sain no problem at least i dont have my windows partition mounting every time i log on
[07:22] <sain> princemackenzie, no, vi
[07:22] <manmadha> princemackenzie, ok ok
[07:22] <princemackenzie> sain, im not nearly l33t enough for vi
[07:22] <sain> princemackenzie, ah, then don't worry about 'web authoring'
[07:22] <bruenig> can't even say 1337 right
[07:22] <sain> too many dilletantes already
[07:22] <manmadha> defrysk, yaa i know ..But why the file is forming...when i shift+ del it
[07:23] <manmadha> ?
[07:23] <princemackenzie> let me rephrase
[07:23] <zach635> linux ppc suppost suxxors ><
[07:23] <zach635> *support
[07:23] <princemackenzie> if i want to put up an ugly website, whats my best choice
[07:23] <rNIUS> hi everybody!
[07:23] <bruenig> princemackenzie, vim
[07:23] <sain> princemackenzie, ah that's better. But seriously, i dunno
[07:23] <sain> lol bruenig
[07:23] <manmadha> princemackenzie, on windows..!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:23] <bruenig> vi improvied
[07:23] <bruenig> s/improvied/improved
[07:23] <sain> princemackenzie, i have looked at those, out of interest, and they blow large chunks
[07:24] <J4kch> damn updates, I need to restart
[07:24] <sain> some wierd wysiwyg
[07:24] <J4kch> can't be bothered -_-
[07:24] <princemackenzie> sain, alright
[07:24] <zach635> gl hf, going back to osx ^^
[07:25] <wceoscar> when i enter the shell ctrl+alt+F1 the fonts there seem to be laggy and taller than wider... cani change the res or resolve this prob?
[07:26] <manmadha> wceoscar, it is closing its x-windows
[07:26] <manmadha> may be
[07:26] <manmadha> sorry
[07:27] <sain> wceoscar, you mean your console fonts?
[07:27] <wceoscar> the shell works properly the problem is how the characters are dsplayed... the fonts look taller than wider
[07:27] <sain> wceoscar, i think there is a console-tools package or similar that helps to tweak such things
[07:27] <wceoscar> YEs.. the console FONTS
[07:27] <Jahman> hi
[07:28] <wceoscar> how can i fix that???? it looks like crap
[07:29] <Raven> anybody got any good Ubuntu wallpapers
[07:29] <sain> you'll have to google, or get someone else to tell you ... i'm on another system
[07:29] <princemackenzie> Raven, ubuntu specific or good wallpaper in general
[07:29] <sain> wceoscar, try console-tools maybe
[07:29] <Raven> good wallpaper and Ubuntu
[07:30] <wceoscar> wheres that locates sain?
[07:30] <princemackenzie> Raven, www.interfacelift.com has excellent wallpaper
[07:30] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[07:30] <wubrgamer> quick poll
[07:30] <Vorbote> wceoscar: have you already tried to reconfigure the console-tools package?
[07:30] <sain> wceoscar, dunno, but it's around
[07:30] <wceoscar> nope
[07:30] <princemackenzie> Raven, for ubuntu, you can poke around the gallery on the forums, www.ubuntuforums.org
[07:30] <wubrgamer> what IRC client are you using ?
[07:30] <christian1222> Hi Guys, I just installed Ubuntu 6.06 on my computer in a protest against windows and proprietary software. Does anyone know of a good book for beginners with some cmputer knowledge, but none fo linux?
[07:30] <princemackenzie> wubrgamer, XChat
[07:30] <sain> wubrgamer, just reading raw packets
[07:31] <linux_kid> wubrgamer: Xchat
[07:31] <sain> wubrgamer, with tcpdump
[07:31] <princemackenzie> sain, lmao
[07:31] <Vorbote> wceoscar: Hmmm.. that would be console-setup instead (things have changed a bit lately).
[07:31] <wceoscar> vorbe, where is that setting located?
[07:31] <Raven> Cheers m8, some good stuff on their
[07:31] <sain> wceoscar, ah, follow Vorbote's advice ... not mine :)
[07:32] <linux_kid> Anyone here know how to install pictosniff? (it reads Nintendo DS pictochat chatrooms)
[07:32] <sain> hmm wubgamer went to investigate tcpdump as an IRC client
[07:32] <hexdream> Where do I find the FAQ/usage guidlines for #ubuntu
[07:32] <sain> hexdream, you actually want to read them?
[07:32] <nothlit> why would people sniff pictochat
[07:33] <hou5ton> How can I set smb4k so that I can open it as user, instead of having to be root?
[07:33] <linux_kid> nothlit: because they have no better use of time...
[07:33] <helpme> hello
[07:33] <hexdream> never hurts ;-) actually they can hurt. Just want to make sure I dont step on any toes.
[07:33] <helpme> Hi guys! How are you guys doing?
[07:33] <sk0r`> hello all
[07:33] <sain> hexdream, i think the only rule is; don't make Seveas angry
[07:33] <nothlit> christian1222, theres an official ubuntu book, if not oreilly has tons of great educational books and theres a book for mepis thats supposed to be pretty good
[07:33] <sk0r`> just stopping by to say ubuntu rocks my face off
[07:34] <Seveas> sk0r`, doesn't that hurt?
[07:34] <ademan> gparted won't let me format a usb disk, is that supposed to be that way?
[07:34] <sain> sk0r`, missing faces are covered in #noface-ubuntu
[07:34] <hexdream> fair enough. different people anger in different ways.
[07:34] <wceoscar> vorbote, where is that console stting at?
[07:34] <Vorbote> wceoscar: A small beginers hint: Open synaptic, search for the package click on its name and select configure package (somewhere in the menus). Or open a terminal emulator and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup". I find the latter easier but many are afraid of the command line...
[07:34] <helpme> I need some help with GRUB
[07:34] <sain> helpme, lay it on me
[07:34] <helpme> thank you sain.
[07:35] <nothlit> synaptic has a tie-in to dpkg-reconfigure?
[07:35] <Vorbote> nothlit: yes
[07:35] <sk0r`> :D
[07:35] <sain> helpme, oh, i wouldn't be doing the thanking yet
[07:35] <sain> synaptic is a front-end to dpkg/apt
[07:35] <helpme> We (me and a friend) have installed Ubuntu Daper on his comp.
[07:35] <nothlit> =/ why can't synaptic use aptitude then
[07:35] <sain> so yeah, a bit of a tie in ;)
[07:35] <Magusknight> how do i run a shellscript
[07:35] <sain> aptitude is different
[07:35] <helpme> After installing, there was no GRUB.
[07:36] <helpme> so, SInce from the beguining ther ewas no grub, I don't know what to do. I can't use "restore grub"
[07:36] <nothlit> sain, yeah it uses apt-get (and apt-cache?) but i didn't know it ties into dpkg-reconfigure
[07:36] <sain> helpme, so you can't boot up?
[07:36] <helpme> We can only boot Ubuntu
[07:36] <helpme> but, he also has WIndows OS on it
[07:36] <nothlit> helpme, use the alternate install cd, super grub disk, or regular grub disk
[07:36] <nothlit> you could always use loadlin
[07:36] <sain> helpme, you'll have to install grub again
[07:36] <wceoscar> vorbote, what should i select on encoding the console?
[07:36] <helpme> but, since ther eis no GRUB, we cannot choose which OS to run
[07:36] <slammm> ubuntu = teh best
[07:36] <slammm> XD
[07:36] <slammm> thanks guys
[07:37] <sain> helpme, but you say it will boot into ubuntu?
[07:37] <helpme> yes
[07:37] <helpme> it only boots Ubuntu
[07:37] <sain> helpme, if it does, boot into ubuntu then apt-get install grub
[07:37] <helpme> it dosn't display the Grub at all.
[07:37] <helpme> looks like grub wasn't isntalled
[07:37] <nothlit> sain, aptitude still can use install remove purge update upgrade dist-upgrade
[07:37] <helpme> ok. sudo aptitude install grub
[07:37] <slammm> ciao
[07:37] <kitche> helpme: do you see a ubuntu logo?
[07:38] <Vorbote> wceoscar: I supppose you Speak a western european language, thus utf-8 with iso-8859-15 translitaration is the default (and most appropriate setting).
[07:38] <LjL> sain: aptitude is also a frontend to dpkg/apt, it's just that it also does some backend-like stuff of its own...
[07:38] <J4kch> sain: I just downloaded this .mov file, it doesn't show properly on VLC, any suggestions?
[07:38] <sain> nothlit, yeah, aptitude is better as it removes uneeded dependencies, unlike apt ...
[07:38] <nothlit> helpme, grub is install, its just invisible unless you hit esc at the right time
[07:38] <Vorbote> s/tranlitaration/(transliteration/
[07:38] <craigp84> i've been tasked with deploying linux on a small network... what tools should i read up on to allow me to control desktop profiles - like GPO in windows?
[07:38] <sain> J4kch, mplayer?
[07:38] <syock> My computer can suspend and hibernate. If I suspend, I can have it wake-up by moving the mouse. While it can be convenient for some people, I don`t like it when it wakes up by itself when I accidentally bumped the desk. So I want to remap the wake-up trigger to just the sleep button on the keyboard.
[07:38] <nothlit> helpme, do gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:38] <sain> LjL, ok, i defer to your greater knowledge
[07:38] <kmasta> hey guys, when ever my computer come out of powersave mode, my internet connection doesn't work. When I try to shut it down I can't get the shut down menu to come up and I have to manual restart the computer
[07:38] <LjL> sain, i was just saying.
[07:38] <slammm> hey, how long will it take for delivery of cds?
[07:38] <sain> LjL, yeah, i wasn't being sarcastic
[07:39] <pr0cheater> hi
[07:39] <wceoscar> vorbote, i speak native american english
[07:39] <slammm> hey, how long will it take for delivery of cds?
[07:39] <wceoscar> is that iso-8859?
[07:39] <Vorbote> wceoscar: then don't touch the defaults.
[07:39] <kitche> slamm: depedns but it's 1-3 business weeks
[07:39] <Vorbote> wceoscar: do fiddle with the font settings there.
[07:39] <helpme> hi.
[07:39] <helpme> This is me in the Ubutforums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311808
[07:39] <slammm> i live in the UK
[07:40] <simon92> hi i need help: when I installed the nvidia driver my 2nd core get lost in the system where you can see the processes is just one core before that there was a second my cpu x2 3800
[07:40] <slammm> i live in the UK
[07:40] <LjL> sain: also BTW, on Edgy apt-get adds an unused-dependencies-auto-removal feature of its own. myself i've switched back to apt-get (though there are still some features that can be handy in aptitude, but i guess i never used them much...)
[07:40] <wceoscar> vorbote, then shoud i cancel that part or select utf?
[07:40] <sain> slammm, took 3 weeks for them to get the cds to me in Australia
[07:40] <The_Evil_One> does ubuntu support ICH7 sound card?
[07:40] <slammm> ok thanks sain
[07:40] <slammm> im off now
[07:40] <slammm> take care
[07:40] <sain> LjL, ah, good to know ... i have to confess i don't even use ubuntu ...
[07:41] <J4kch> sain: lol
[07:41] <sain> but i like to pretend i do, because of the hype :)
[07:42] <Magusknight> sain: so what do you use?
[07:42] <sain> Magusknight, oh no, this could get all nasty ;)
[07:42] <sain> freebsd
[07:42] <J4kch> sain: how do I get mplayer?
[07:42] <sain> but i install ubuntu for a lot of people
[07:42] <LjL> sain: well, perhaps the auto-removal feature will be backported to Debian as well, who knows... (well perhaps somebody does, just not me =)
[07:42] <boink> apt-get install mplayer, how else?
[07:42] <sain> J4kch, um apt-get install mplayer ?
[07:43] <Magusknight> sain: why?
[07:43] <bruenig> J4kch, sudo apt-get install mplayer, you need to enable the extra repos first
[07:43] <boink> you'll need the right codecs as well
[07:43] <boink> you should apt-get install the right codecs first
[07:43] <J4kch> package isn't available
[07:43] <kmasta> hey guys, my network connection keeps dropping when ever i come out of powersave mode, what's going on?
[07:43] <sain> Magusknight, many reasons, none of which should be elucidated on this channel
[07:43] <boink> then you need to adjust your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:43] <bruenig> J4kch, could you pastebin your sources.list
[07:43] <bruenig> !paste
[07:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:44] <boink> for windows meida, you want win32codecs
[07:44] <slop> i'm having problems with fglrx....after upgrading to edgy, i installed fglrx, and i get these errors:  "[fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint for ..... "  (a bunch of lines like that).......i tried using the fix (replacing libGL.so.1.2 with the older one), described here (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185033), but i still get the errors...any ideas?
[07:44] <sain> J4kch, you've got to add all the fun repositories to your sources.list
[07:44] <sain> J4kch, i'm sure there's an easy 'ubuntu way' to do it
[07:44] <hexdream> Does anybody know of a way to take the repository DVD's and run them off the hard disk (in a specific folder). Im sick of pushing & pulling disks.
[07:44] <J4kch> pretend that I don't know how to open the sources.list
[07:45] <J4kch> and tell me how to do it =P
[07:45] <bruenig> J4kch, gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:45] <bruenig> J4kch, then copy and paste to that url
[07:45] <Zaggynl> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1839967
[07:45] <J4kch> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35198/
[07:46] <J4kch> looks like they are enabled
[07:46] <sain> J4kch, you can also add repositories through synaptic ... like settings->repositories or similar
[07:47] <nothlit> sain, how up to date are the ports?
[07:47] <J4kch> sain: I'd have to know which ones to add
[07:47] <bruenig> J4kch, first you probably should delete that breezy line if you are't using it
[07:47] <bruenig> J4kch, add this line at the top
[07:47] <bruenig> deb http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[07:47] <nothlit> J4kch, system administration software sources
[07:47] <bruenig> J4kch, oh you will have to do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in order to edit
[07:48] <nothlit> bruenig, you can use the "software sources" app
[07:48] <zugu> hello
[07:48] <bruenig> nothlit, you can edit the sources.list
[07:48] <slop> how would i go about updating a link (libGL.so.1)?  i just want to replace it with a new copy that points to libGL.so.1.2
[07:49] <zugu> i'm having some problems with the tcp/ip ports: some bittorrent clients are reporting blocked ports on my system, however, there are applications using whatever ports they like
[07:49] <J4kch> bruenig, added
[07:49] <zugu> is there a centralised port management thing?
[07:49] <bruenig> J4kch, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mplayer
[07:49] <bruenig> zugu, I used firestarter to open bittorrent ports
[07:49] <nothlit> bruenig, you said pretend you don't know how to edit the sources.list file, so i was talking about the noob way
[07:49] <bruenig> zugu, sudo apt-get install firestarter, if you wish to try it
[07:50] <zugu> bruenig, thank you
[07:50] <hou5ton> I have a program, SMB4K, that I want to have always mount as root and do so automatically when I boot up. HOw do I do that?
[07:51] <boink> is there an ubuntu tv-card page?
[07:51] <bruenig> !tvout
[07:51] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out on certain NVidia cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition
[07:51] <J4kch> okay, I have mplayer now. Is there a way to get ALL of the codecs?
[07:52] <nothlit> bruenig, why would he need to install a firewall in order to open ports? i'm guessing he hasn't done anything with iptables
[07:52] <stoorty> !ntfs
[07:52] <bruenig> !quicktime | J4kch
[07:52] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:52] <ubotu> J4kch: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:52] <bruenig> nothlit, I didn't tell him to do so, I simply remarked that that is what I did to do so.
[07:52] <nothlit> zugu, are those other apps you installed thing like apache ssh or vnc?
[07:52] <J4kch> bruenig: danke
[07:53] <nothlit> zugu, or  just things like media players and browsers
[07:53] <bruenig> nothlit, iptables was maddening. Perhaps that is my incompetence but I generally am able to grasp things and that I was not.
[07:53] <zugu> nothlit, no, it's azureus, bittornado and utorrent under wine
[07:53] <nothlit> zugu, no "there are applications using whatever ports they like" ... what are these apps
[07:53] <zugu> nothlit, other apps, like amule, the default gnome torrent client or dc++ are able to freely use the ports
[07:54] <nothlit> zugu, that means you probably need to edit your router settings to open up 6881
[07:54] <nothlit> zugu, or its because you haven't opened it up tcp & udp
[07:54] <zugu> nothlit, what app is using that port?
[07:55] <helpme> there is no package grub in edgy
[07:55] <zugu> nothlit, tcp & udp are open, otherwise amule or dc++ would not function
[07:55] <helpme> sudo aptitude install grub, dosn't give anything
[07:55] <nothlit> zugu, things like the default torrent  client probably don't bother complaining about not being able to accept connections since it can still make them
[07:55] <nothlit> zugu, thats just the default torrent port
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> !info grub edgy
[07:55] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-11ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 359 kB, installed size 764 kB
[07:55] <nothlit> zugu, it'll depend on the app and the settings
[07:56] <tristam_> helpme, can you post the contents of /boot/grub/menu.lst please?
[07:56] <Dreetn> Hi guys
[07:56] <Dreetn> I have a prob with installing ubuntu
[07:56] <nothlit> zugu, explain how you internet (or possible lan) is setup
[07:56] <zugu> nothlit, the default gnome torrent client is set to randomly use ports between 10000 and 15000, and it's working properly, while azureus and utorrent say that they cannot use random ports, such as 12345
[07:56] <ernz> Hello, how do I "Add a repo"?
[07:57] <Dreetn> I have xp and I want to install ubuntu on another partition, so I set my 1th boot device on my disk station and I insert the disk with the .iso file
[07:57] <nothlit> zugu, like i said, its probably that the mainline client doesn't complain about either udp or receiving connections (in the server sense)
[07:57] <Dreetn> But then xp just starts...
[07:57] <stoorty> set it to boot from cd?
[07:58] <hexdream> have you tried the super grub disk. Saved my butt after a botched dual boot. http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[07:58] <Dreetn> I did
[07:58] <stoorty> or use the libve cd and install from that
[07:58] <bruenig> zugu, I installed firestarter. Then just went to policy and opened the ports. Then configured utorrent to use those ports and it was good
[07:58] <Dreetn> ok
[07:58] <nothlit> zugu, downloading still works fine if you haven't set it up properly
[07:58] <ernz> !beryl
[07:58] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:58] <nothlit> zugu, because a client can still make connections
[07:59] <zugu> nothlit, they need to use random ports, because there are trackers that do not accept connections on the default torrent port
[07:59] <nothlit> zugu, but things like azureus and utorrent will complain because its one sided
[07:59] <bruenig> nothlit, yeah if you want to leech. If you are firewalled you cannot connect to other people who are firewalled. So if everyone was firewalled, bittorrent wouldn't work.
[07:59] <^FrIenD^> Ciao a TuTTi
[07:59] <nothlit> bruenig, i know, im just explaining why he might not have got an 'error' message from the mainline client
[07:59] <bitflip> CPP2e.html || Pastes to http://cpp.sf.net || Be patient, courteous, and precise...this is C++, we  all have our segfaults. We don't do homework.
[07:59] <nothlit> bruenig, i am not telling him to violate the spirit of bittorrent
[08:00] <bruenig> nothlit, oh ok, I mean we steal things, but we don't go as far as maintaining harmful firewalls, come on
[08:00] <nothlit> zugu, so how do you connect to the internet? through another computer? through a router? dialing into the cable modem?
[08:00] <J4kch> sigh, linux needs flash player support
[08:00] <bruenig> J4kch, it has flashplayer support
[08:00] <J4kch> how am I supposed to watch youtube videos without flash?
[08:01] <nothlit> bruenig, T.T please very carefully reread what i wrote from the very beginning before you accuse me of that again.
[08:01] <DARKGuy> yay
[08:01] <J4kch> bruenig, not the latest version which is needed
[08:01] <kitche> J4kch: linux does have flash support unless your on an 64-bit distro
[08:01] <bruenig> J4kch, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279990, flash 9 beta 2
[08:01] <bruenig> J4kch, remove the comma on the url sorry
[08:01] <nothlit> bruenig, very very carefully
[08:01] <morisal2> How to uppgrade kernel to 2.6.19
[08:01] <J4kch> oh, thanks ^_^
[08:02] <lifepositive> Neonox: hello
[08:02] <ria> deutsch chanel??
[08:02] <bruenig> !de | ria
[08:02] <ubotu> ria: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:02] <pascal80> what happened to ubuntu-bug channel?
[08:02] <pascal80> what happened to ubuntu-bugs channel?
[08:02] <alek66> how can I make my ubuntu run on energy save (im on a laptop)
[08:03] <J4kch> bruenig, problem, it conflicts with libflash-mozplugin
[08:03] <kitche> !repeat pascal80
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeat pascal80 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <bruenig> J4kch, easy fix, sudo apt-get remove libflash-mozplugin
[08:03] <TehBlackSharpie> hey, if anyone has time, I need help with my screen resolution
[08:03] <kitche> !repeat|pascal80
[08:03] <ubotu> pascal80: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:03] <bruenig> !fixres | TehBlackSharpie
[08:03] <ubotu> TehBlackSharpie: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:03] <ernz> Does Beryl only work on 64-bit machine?
[08:03] <kitche> ernz: no
[08:04] <javaJake> J4kch, if you want the latest Flash 9 beta, let me know
[08:04] <javaJake> ernz, absolutely not. :D
[08:04] <DrNic1> anyone else have problems connecting to DALnet with xchat?
[08:04] <TehBlackSharpie> alright i'll experiment with it for a while, thanks
[08:04] <Super_Cat_Frog> hi - does anybody know how i can check if i am using xgl or aiglx?
[08:04] <ernz> kitche - I just installed Edgy, do you know where I can find a DECENT how to to get beryl installed and working for a noob? :)
[08:04] <javaJake> ernz: yea
[08:04] <bruenig> J4kch, did you get it working?
[08:04] <javaJake> ernz: one sec...
[08:05] <ernz> javaJake: Sure.
[08:05] <kitche> ernz: install it then open up a consoel and type in beryl-manager and ther you go you have berl :)
[08:05] <javaJake> ernz: beryl is just for redeon
[08:05] <Washboy> Super_Cat_Frog: Check if you have the xgl package and remove it ;). Thats should clear things up :P.
[08:05] <J4kch> bruenig, Don't rush me! =P
[08:05] <javaJake> kitche: no not so easy. :)
[08:05] <Super_Cat_Frog> Washboy: ah ye, that'd do it
[08:05] <kitche> javaJake: it's that easy for me then again I use nvidia
[08:05] <J4kch> bruenig, Dependency is not satisfiable, libc6
[08:05] <ernz> kitche: How do I install it? javaJake: I have Nvidia....
[08:06] <J4kch> javajake, thanks =)
[08:06] <javaJake> ernz: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php?title=Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[08:06] <javaJake> ernz: oh, OK
[08:06] <x-r00t-x> hey guys . i need help with this . soon as possible  : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=309340
[08:06] <bruenig> J4kch, sudo apt-get install libc6
[08:06] <bruenig> J4kch, I would think that would already be installed
[08:06] <J4kch> bruenig, it is
[08:07] <J4kch> bruenig, it's also latest version that's the problemo
[08:07] <morisal2> mhgf
[08:07] <ernz> javaJake: So will beryl not work for me? What should I use instead?
[08:07] <kitche> ernz: you don't need XGL to run beryl but with the drivers that ubuntu uses you will probably need to use xGL sicne they are not the latest
[08:07] <bruenig> J4kch, what was the error and when did it show up, what command did you run before it showed up
[08:08] <bruenig> are the us repos down?
[08:08] <C_REATiVE_> ubuntu-hu
[08:08] <ernz> kitche: So I need to install xGL from the Package Manager?
[08:08] <morisal2> update?
[08:08] <J4kch> bruenig, I downloaded the .deb and double clicked it, then I got the "Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6"
[08:09] <kitche> ernz: if your not using the latest nvidia you have to
[08:09] <alek66> can anyone help me with power saving?
[08:09] <J4kch> bruenig, I dislike using the terminal when I can use the gui
[08:09] <mod> Hi
[08:09] <bruenig> J4kch, try doing this instead perhaps the message will be a little more verbose, sudo dpkg -i flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.21.78-3v1ubuntu0_i386.deb
[08:09] <ernz> Kitche: I used Automatix and now have the latest NVidia drivers.
[08:09] <kitche> ernz: which version of nvidia drivers did you install?
[08:09] <mod> i've got a problem with my ati card can someone help me
[08:10] <kmasta> what is a good program to use so I can use my TV Tuner card
[08:10] <ernz> kitche - How do I check?
[08:10] <shamrock> anyone else having problem with vmware in edgy?
[08:10] <zugu> nothlit, sorry, I was playing with firestarter and unwillingly killed my irc connection; did you send me an answer while i was offline?
[08:10] <kitche> ernz: well when you startX is the nvidia logo white or black for the background for the nvidia splash
[08:10] <ernz> kitche: 1.0-7184 Is what's in the "NVidia X Server Settings" window.
[08:10] <storkme> curious
[08:10] <J4kch> dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.21.78-3v1ubuntu0_i386.deb (--install):
[08:10] <J4kch>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[08:10] <J4kch> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:10] <J4kch>  flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.21.78-3v1ubuntu0_i386.deb
[08:10] <J4kch> Ups, sorry
[08:10] <s> hola
[08:10] <kitche> ernz: ok those are old drivers older then what ubuntu uses
[08:10] <mod> i've got a problem with my ati card can someone help me
[08:10] <DARKGuy> s hola
[08:11] <nothlit> zugu, so how do you connect to the internet? through another computer? through a router? dialing into the cable modem?
[08:11] <kitche> !ask|mod
[08:11] <ubotu> mod: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:11] <bruenig> J4kch, you have to change into the directory it is in
[08:11] <ernz> kitche: Oh. So what do I need to do?
[08:11] <s> usuario de ubuntu ?
[08:11] <DARKGuy> s sip, mas o menos
[08:11] <nothlit> zugu, thats all
[08:11] <s> de fque pais
[08:11] <bruenig> J4kch, do you know where the deb is saved? If it saved to the desktop to cd Desktop, then run the command
[08:11] <zugu> nothlit, as far as i know, I have my own IP and i directly connect to the internet
[08:11] <bruenig> s/to/do
[08:11] <DARKGuy> s Venezuela
[08:11] <s> yo uruguay
[08:11] <J4kch> bruenig, yeah desktop
[08:11] <kitche> ernz: well install XGL since the other way you have to etierh add a 3rd party repo to get the latest driver where you don't need to use XGL or aiglx
[08:11] <bruenig> J4kch, cd Desktop && sudo dpkg -i flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.21.78-3v1ubuntu0_i386.deb
[08:11] <DARKGuy> s ah, que bien :) bienvenido al canal
[08:12] <s> esto lo instale con automatix
[08:12] <s> pero no se bien que es
[08:12] <LjL> !es | s
[08:12] <ubotu> s: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:12] <bruenig> !es
[08:12] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:12] <TehBlackSharpie> ok, i think i need to use aticonfig to make the appropriate resolution work, but i don't have it
[08:12] <mod> i can't look videos because they are very slow in the full screen
[08:12] <fialar> anyone know the difference between "xserver-xorg-video-i810" and "xserver-xorg-video-intel" packages?
[08:12] <eltese> yello
[08:12] <TehBlackSharpie> i looked on synaptic and it's not there
[08:12] <ernz> kitche: Right, so I will now install XGL
[08:12] <DARKGuy> fine then
[08:12] <eltese> hey
[08:12] <s> por lo visto , claro esta, es un chat
[08:12] <eltese> how can i find if i use 32 or 64 bits?
[08:12] <zugu> dou123, private messaging is disabled, join #ubuntu-ro
[08:12] <kitche> ernz:yes
[08:12] <bruenig> !info xserver-xorg-video-i810
[08:12] <ubotu> xserver-xorg-video-i810: X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.5-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 148 kB, installed size 392 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-i386 m68k mips mipsel netbsd-i386 powerpc)
[08:12] <bruenig> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel
[08:12] <ubotu> xserver-xorg-video-intel: X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.0-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 123 kB, installed size 344 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-i386 m68k mips mipsel netbsd-i386 powerpc)
[08:13] <fialar> they do the same thing
[08:13] <DARKGuy> s sip, por favor escribe /join #ubuntu-es y hablamos por alla te parece? aca hablan ingles ^^;
[08:13] <J4kch> bruenig, same error
[08:13] <nothlit> zugu, not within college campus or business network?
[08:13] <fialar> well -intel relies on -i810
[08:13] <mod> i can't look videos because they are very slow in the full screen
[08:13] <s> si
[08:13] <J4kch> bruenig, oh wait a sec
[08:13] <zugu> nothlit, it's my neighbourhood LAN
[08:13] <s> bueno, no se cmo configurarlo
[08:13] <bruenig> fialar, looks like one is in main and one is in universe. The one in main is a little bigger
[08:13] <eltese> how can i find if i use 32 or 64 bits?
[08:13] <gnomefreak> s: join #ubuntu-es
[08:13] <nothlit> zugu, are you the gateway?
[08:14] <J4kch> bruenig, alright, it's installing
[08:14] <fialar> bruenig: both install man pages.. i810(4) and intel(4).. both say to use "i810" as the driver in xorg.conf..
[08:14] <ernz> kitche: Package manager shows a "xserver-xgl" is that what I want?
[08:14] <bruenig> fialar, I was just pointing out differences
[08:14] <zugu> nothlit, no, I am not
[08:14] <fialar> bruenig: *nods*
[08:14] <kitche> ernz: yes
[08:14] <J4kch> bruenig, uh oh eins problemo
[08:14] <fialar> the -intel package installs 3 additional drivers. ch7xxx, intel_drv, and sil164.. not sure what those do
[08:14] <pet> bitch
[08:15] <igge> anyone who knows when 2.6.19 will be available for ubuntu?
[08:15] <gnomefreak> damn
[08:15] <nothlit> zugu, then you aren't directly connected if you're within the LAN, unless of course you're maintaining two connections
[08:15] <gnomefreak> igge: not looking like it will be
[08:15] <kitche> igge: next ubuntu release
[08:15] <fialar> hmm..
[08:15] <igge> oh ok...
[08:15] <J4kch> bruenig, go here please: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35205/
[08:15] <gnomefreak> igge: feisty was gonna use it but i think we are going with 2.6.20 for release
[08:15] <eltese_> hi
[08:16] <eltese_> how can i see if i have 32 or 64 bit dist
[08:16] <eltese_> =
[08:16] <eltese_> ?
[08:16] <igge> damn.. I need it...
[08:16] <gnomefreak> igge: build it
[08:16] <ernz> kitche: xgl-server installed, now what? :)
[08:16] <gnomefreak> eltese_: uname -r
[08:16] <mc__> eltese_:  uname -a
[08:16] <kitche> ernz: read the FAq on beryl site
[08:16] <mc__> eltese_: what does it say?
[08:16] <gnomefreak> ernz: join #ubuntu-xgl for that
[08:16] <|Sushi|> why i cant play wolfenstein et under edgy?
[08:16] <nothlit> zugu, you'll have to ask whoever maintains your neighborhood lan to help you open and direct the ports to your computer
[08:16] <eltese> 2.6.17-10-generic.. so32=
[08:17] <eltese> ?
[08:17] <igge> hm.. clients that I have told "linux is easy" needs it as well...
[08:17] <cypher1> bruenig, what is the xserver-xorg-video-intel do ?
[08:17] <mc__> |Sushi|:  you can
[08:17] <|Sushi|> no
[08:17] <bruenig> J4kch, wow, looks like you have a lot of old stuff there you need to upgrade
[08:17] <mc__> eltese_: paste the whole output
[08:17] <eltese> 2.6.17-10-generic
[08:17] <gnomefreak> eltese_: 32 bit
[08:17] <|Sushi|> my pc shut down if i start the game
[08:17] <eltese> k
[08:17] <justin_> |Sushi|: What exactly does not work?
[08:17] <eltese> thanks
[08:17] <|Sushi|> my pc shut down if i start the game
[08:17] <mc__> eltese_: the whole output of uname -a
[08:17] <justin_> The game does not start?, the game is slow? the online connections will not show up?
[08:17] <zugu> nothlit, I will
[08:17] <justin_> |Sushi|: Really?.. wow
[08:17] <|Sushi|> yes^^
[08:18] <|Sushi|> damn
[08:18] <nothlit> zugu, kk thats great :)
[08:18] <mc__> gnomefreak: 2.6.17-generic can be 64bit too
[08:18] <kmasta> what's a good program i can get so I can use my TV Capture card
[08:18] <justin_> |Sushi|: Well something is not right, but it's not edgy -- I play the same as in Dapper
[08:18] <gnomefreak> mc__: not that i know of
[08:18] <|Sushi|> lol
[08:18] <justin_> |Sushi|: Did you change anything in your xorg.conf? -- sure your drivers are set up right?
[08:18] <|Sushi|> yes i am sure
[08:18] <bruenig> J4kch, maybe you haven't upgraded in a while? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:18] <|Sushi|> but maybe its my graphic card
[08:18] <zugu> nothlit, thank you
[08:18] <slop> help!  when i try to watch a flash movie in firefox (flash 9 beta), i get no sound, and this error in console over and over : ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:1123:(snd_pcm_direct_open_secondary_client) unable to open hardware
[08:19] <|Sushi|> onboard -.-
[08:19] <justin_> |Sushi|: Could be but.. *wow* thats quite a problem you have there..
[08:19] <mc__> gnomefreak: im on amd64  and uname -a starts with Linux mc-desktop 2.6.17-10-generic
[08:19] <|Sushi|> yes :D
[08:19] <justin_> If your card reacts that severly in edgy.. i'd probably go back to dapper for now, until they work out the bugs from edgy
[08:20] <gnomefreak> mc__: i found it x86/x86_64
[08:20] <J4kch> bruenig, updating...
[08:20] <gnomefreak> i thought it was just x86
[08:20] <mc__> gnomefreak: nobody is perfect
[08:21] <|Sushi|> can anyone give me a good tutorial for c++?^^
[08:21] <J4kch> bruenig, everything is okeydokey
[08:21] <bruenig> J4kch, does that mean it worked?
[08:22] <christian1222> hey guys, where is the wiki on proprietery file formats, like mp3, mpeg2, etc
[08:22] <mc__> |Sushi|: google for "Thinking in c++"
[08:22] <christian1222> so i can listen to music on uubuntu
[08:22] <LjL> Ubotu, tell christian1222 about restricted | christian1222, see the private message from Ubotu
[08:22] <gop> !mp3
[08:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:22] <Firefishe> I'm having trouble with my /etc/apt/sources.list .  This example shows commented out lines and two sources I'm thinking of adding.  I'd like a critique of the uncommented stuff and the one I'm adding.  List paste is here:  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/UARGFM10.html
[08:22] <|Sushi|> kay
[08:22] <|Sushi|> thx
[08:22] <christian1222> LjL: thanks!
[08:22] <bruenig> |Sushi|, I bet people in ##c++ could help
[08:22] <J4kch> bruenig, nothing needed to be updated but it did ask to fix dependencies for flashplugin
[08:22] <J4kch> bruenig, which I did
[08:22] <gizmo_the_great1> if i want to search my entire drive and subdirectories for a file called 'ted.doc', what's the syntax?
[08:23] <gizmo_the_great1> using grep
[08:23] <|Sushi|> cya
[08:23] <Firefishe> gizmo_the_great1: sudo find / -name ted.doc
[08:23] <bruenig> Firefishe, lines 32-35 are all the same
[08:23] <Meads> i ran into trouble with my server and now when i try and ssh in to my box i get this error Server refused to allocate pty stdin: is not a tty
[08:24] <Firefishe> bruenig: so those should <pbly> be deleted?
[08:24] <Meads> anybody seen this before and can suggest a way of fixing it?
[08:24] <Meads> thanks
[08:24] <bruenig> Firefishe, keep one but no reason to keep all of them if they are the same, if you were to uncomment them you would certainly get errors
[08:24] <LjL> l
[08:25] <kmasta> can somebody please help me with TV Time, it won't even open
[08:25] <Firefishe> bruenig: yes, it keeps wanting either 'Release' or 'Release.gpg' when I try to run an update in Synaptic
[08:25] <x-r00t-x> x-r00t-x,
[08:25] <bruenig> Firefishe, if that is is your sources.list the only repos enabled are the beryl ones
[08:26] <Firefishe> bruenig: I recently added a key for a repository I wanted, but it doesn't seem to even show up in my trustdb.gpg file
[08:26] <bruenig> Firefishe, you need to do this, judging from their website, wget http://beryl-mirror.lupine.me.uk/1609B551.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[08:26] <Firefishe> bruenig: yes, I purposefully uncommented the lines using the Software Properties manger before posting
[08:26] <Firefishe> bruenig: yup, did that
[08:26] <x-r00t-x> !beryl
[08:26] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:26] <Firefishe> bruenig: that's when doing a Reload in Synaptic went all buggy
[08:27] <jku> packaging question: what includes postinst/postrm/etc scripts in the package
[08:27] <jrib> jku: #ubuntu-motu is better for packaging questions
[08:27] <bruenig> Firefishe, what is your problem right now that you need help with
[08:27] <jku> jrib, thanks
[08:27] <gop> !virtual dj
[08:27] <Firefishe> bruenig: I want to get my sources.list back to where it was before I wgetted the key
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtual dj - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <gop> !dj
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dj - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <bruenig> Firefishe, the key doesn't change the sources.list. If you wish, you can remove the beryl repos which are the only things requiring a key from that sources.list
[08:28] <gop> virtual dj under wine runs slow, is thier any good professional dj software like virtual dj on linux platform
[08:28] <x-r00t-x> jd for ubuntu :O
[08:28] <x-r00t-x> DJ*
[08:28] <Meads> i ran into trouble with my server and now when i try and ssh in to my box i get this error Server refused to allocate pty stdin: is not a tty
[08:29] <Donald1> hello, i downloaded several games (such as boson, freecraft...) through the synaptic, but i don't know where they are or how to install them, anyone can help me?
[08:29] <redDEADresolve> my internal card reader was working; ie mounting my sd card when inserted now it does. The reader functions fine in windows. ANy help?
[08:29] <aleka> I am trying to install Edgy on a 3rd partition and am getting this error " Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logicalblock 318331"
[08:29] <Slart> Hello. Does anyone know where the small application "Screen resolution Preferences" gets the values to put into the drop down boxes? from xorg.conf? somewhere else?
[08:29] <aleka> Does this mean a bad install Cd?
[08:29] <avilella> hi all, I am trying to get ubuntu-home-backup to install
[08:29] <Slart> Donald1: check /usr/local/games.. might be there
[08:29] <kitche> aleka: most likely
[08:29] <avilella> but there seems to be something wrong
[08:29] <x-r00t-x> alef0, no its not dhc its hda
[08:29] <x-r00t-x> hdc*
[08:29] <Firefishe> bruenig: understood...that paste is only a possibility, I haven't changed it yet.  What happened is, after adding the key, I did a Reload in Synaptic, and got some update connect errors.
[08:30] <avilella> avilella@magneto:~/data$ ubuntu-home-backup
[08:30] <avilella> /usr/local/bin/ubuntu-home-backup: line 6: /usr/libexec/ubuntu-home-backup-gui: No such file or directory
[08:30] <ernz> I am trying to add repos, and when I hit refresh I get an error: "http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available" Why is this?
[08:30] <assasukasse> hi all, how can i make a windows share password to be saved in keyring so i am not asked anymore?
[08:30] <aleka> hdc would be my CDROM x-r00t-x
[08:30] <Firefishe> bruenig: it was asking for something that ended in Release.gpg and Release
[08:30] <Firefishe> bruenig: which it did not do before
[08:30] <x-r00t-x> hmm
[08:30] <aleka> kitche, can you give me a simple step to checksum the iso image I downloaded?
[08:30] <Firefishe> bruenig: it only happened after adding the key
[08:30] <bruenig> Firefishe, I haven't been able to connect to the us repos today so perhaps that is where the problem lies?
[08:30] <sebaji> como llego a ubuntu en espaol?
[08:30] <LjL> !es | sebaji
[08:30] <ubotu> sebaji: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:30] <kitche> aleka: md5sum in linux there is a gui for windows to check
[08:30] <Donald1> Slart: how do i access the directory?
[08:30] <Firefishe> bruenig: that would explailn a lot
[08:31] <aleka> I am in Ubuntu now
[08:31] <ernz> The key it's looking for is "NO_PUBKEY 5A947CF51609B551" but it can't be found
[08:31] <x-r00t-x> !bd
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <sebaji> thanks
[08:31] <lumpki> Donald1, just try launching them from a command line
[08:31] <kitche> aleka: then md5sum <file>.md5
[08:31] <Firefishe> bruenig: I'll go back and check something, and delete t hose similiar lines
[08:31] <lumpki> they should ebin your path
[08:31] <Slart> Donald1: if it is there you should be able to just do a "ls /usr/local/games" from a console
[08:31] <aleka> ok
[08:31] <lumpki> they should be in your path
[08:31] <J4kch> What is the best bittorrent client?
[08:31] <Firefishe> bruenig: thanks
[08:31] <kitche> !best|J4kch
[08:31] <ubotu> J4kch: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[08:31] <aleka> hmm... I reckon I downloaded the md5 file when I downloaded the iso
[08:31] <bruenig> J4kch, utorrent through wine
[08:31] <Slart> J4kch: azureus? ... many like it, some dont
[08:31] <Donald1> Slart: i typed in ls /usr/local/games but nothing happened
[08:32] <J4kch> Aight, thanks guys
[08:32] <aleka> is the md5 part of the iso image?
[08:32] <lumpki> Donald1, just try typing 'boson'
[08:32] <Donald1> lumpki: I can't because i don't know where they are!
[08:32] <bruenig> aleka, no the md5 is seperate
[08:32] <Slart> Donald1: it was just a suggestion.. they might be somewhere else.. what game was it?
[08:32] <ernz> kitche: Why an I getting a "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A947CF51609B551" error. I am following the HowTo to the letter?
[08:32] <Donald1> Slart: there was freecraft and boson
[08:32] <ernz> !beryl
[08:32] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:32] <green_earz> J4kch:  i woudl say  BitTornado  and for a bittorent server torrentflux
[08:32] <storkme> when i use a 6.06 livecd it says regarding my ext3 hard drive: 'Unable to read the contents of thise filesystem!'
[08:33] <kitche> ernz: you need the key's for apt for the beryl repo
[08:33] <Donald1> Lumpki: it's ok, i found boson
[08:33] <lumpki> Donald1, you can go back into synaptic and check the files that were installed
[08:33] <zOap> is there a free ram app for ubuntu?
[08:33] <ernz> kitche: how do I do that?
[08:34] <crackcorn> howdy, how can i find out what modules are loaded
[08:34] <kitche> ernz: it's apt-key is the command not sure how to do it myself really
[08:34] <crackcorn> specifically sound
[08:34] <justin_> How can I add a program that I compiled into the Gnome programs menu manually?
[08:34] <lumpki> Donald1, when you install things, they usually are put somewhere in your PATH, so you can just launch them without knowing where they are
[08:34] <DARKGuy> w 3
[08:34] <DARKGuy> oops.
[08:34] <christian1222> can i get apt-get adobe reader?
[08:34] <justin_> apt-get install
[08:34] <justin_> ;D
[08:34] <Donald1> Lumpki: ok, thank you very much
[08:34] <christian1222> haha
[08:34] <ernz> kitche: wget http://beryl-mirror.lupine.me.uk/1609B551.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - <<For some reason they put that AFTER the refresh!!????
[08:34] <Slart> Donald1: when I installed freecraft it ended up in "usr/games/freecraft"
[08:34] <green_earz> crackcorn: lsmod
[08:34] <aleka> kitche, bruenig this is where I downloaded it from >> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download#currentrelease and I don't see a link for an md5 file
[08:35] <DARKGuy> Slart: then just type freecraft ?
[08:35] <ArrenLex> !acroread | christian1222
[08:35] <ubotu> acroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.8-0.0.ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 22368 kB, installed size 54692 kB (Only available for i386)
[08:35] <crackcorn> thanks green_earz
[08:35] <Slart> DARKGuy: I suppose so.. haven't tried it yet
[08:35] <green_earz> np
[08:35] <assasukasse> noone knows how to save a windows share password in keyring so that i am not asked every time i boot?
[08:35] <storkme> how do i check if a filesystem has errors on linux?
[08:35] <lumpki> Donald1, once you know the command, you can create a launcher in the menu or on the desktop
[08:35] <ArrenLex> storkme: fsck
[08:35] <salty-horse> hi. inwhich package can i find the glibc man pages? (it's not in glibc-doc)
[08:35] <storkme> assasukasse, can't you put it in /etc/fstab?
[08:35] <christian1222> ArrenLex: thanks
[08:35] <DARKGuy> Slart: Whenever you install some program or game, usually you just type the app/game's name the same way
[08:35] <Slart> Donald1: and if you know the command you can always do a "whereis freecraft" in console.. to find where it is
[08:36] <storkme> ArrenLex, fsck with which args
[08:36] <assasukasse> storkme i prefer to click on the share link on the desktop, but it asks me the windows admin password all the time, which i dont want..
[08:36] <Donald1> Slart: ok
[08:36] <ArrenLex> storkme: fsck /dev/<whatever>, as long as your filesystem is unmounted or mounted read-only.
[08:36] <storkme> assasukasse, share link? i don't have one of those
[08:36] <Slart> DARKGuy: yes, i know.
[08:37] <Slart> hmm.. my freecraft core dumped.. =/
[08:37] <storkme> ArrenLex, it wouldn't work - 'The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem' :|
[08:37] <DARKGuy> oops.
[08:37] <ArrenLex> storkme: what type of filesystem is it?
[08:37] <drcode> hi all
[08:37] <storkme> ArrenLex, it was ext3 when i made it
[08:38] <assasukasse> storkme i have a link to my windows shared folder on my desktop...i made from connect to server
[08:38] <joseph> can anyone tell me how i would get a list of all of the available irc channels
[08:38] <ArrenLex> storkme: Should work. Try running "sudo fsck.ext3 /dev/<whatever>" directly
[08:38] <storkme> assasukasse, it might be wise to put the connect command in /etc/fstab and make it mount it every time you log in
[08:38] <ArrenLex> joseph: /list works for me.
[08:38] <assasukasse> storkme do u have a wiki or anything else for that?
[08:39] <storkme> ArrenLex, same error.. does it make a difference that i'm on a live cd ?
[08:39] <drcode> I have problem with pppconfig
[08:39] <Slart> ouch... my x gdm keeps restarting when I try to run games in full screen
[08:39] <drcode> I use modem
[08:39] <ArrenLex> storkme: You're trying to check a system on your hard drive from a live-cd? There shouldn't be any problems with that. Run "sudo fdisk -l" to make sure you're trying to check the correct filesystem, though.
[08:39] <drcode> is there support for HSF modem under linux?
[08:39] <storkme> assasukasse, try this: http://tinyurl.com/59oyc
[08:40] <Rambo3> storkme whats the error , i think you can run it only on live cd
[08:40] <drcode> I need to buy driver or I can use free driver?
[08:40] <joseph> thanks arren
[08:40] <Jassossovinik> I can gain access to a remote server via ssh. I want to backup a directory on that machine onto this machine, but I can't work out how to do it.  How should I go about this?
[08:40] <storkme> ArrenLex, apparently /dev/sda doesn't contain a valid partition table which is my bad i think.. i guess that means i need to create one?
[08:40] <lumpki> drcode, it depends on the modem i think
[08:40] <drcode> I have pci connext
[08:40] <Slart> my resolution preferences thingy in ubuntu says I can only chose between 50Hz and 54Hz in horizontal refresh rate.. that cant be right.. how can I change it?
[08:40] <drcode> zoltrix modem
[08:40] <assasukasse> storkme thanks, do u have a clue how to make a touchscreen work?
[08:40] <joseph> exit
[08:41] <ArrenLex> storkme: o_O if it doesn't have a valid partition table, then there are no filesystems on it you can possibly check.
[08:41] <storkme> assasukasse, sorry buddy, no idea. google would be a good place to start
[08:41] <aleka> HOw do you verify the integrity of an iso file?
[08:41] <lumpki> drcode, did you check out linuxant.com?
[08:41] <Slart> aleka: check md5/crc32 if you know what they are supposed to be?
[08:42] <ompaul> Stork, don't say that, just say you don't know, if the word google is being used we give a full url targeted to solving the problem :)
[08:42] <storkme> ArrenLex, i used to use a 10gb hd for my OS but i just removed it.. so presumably i need to reformat the larger hd and include a partition table so it can be a valid filesystem?
[08:42] <assasukasse> storkme thanks anyway
[08:42] <J4kch> ompaul: Hey paul =)
[08:42] <ArrenLex> storkme: Oh. I would guess yes, then.
[08:42] <storkme> ompaul, hm, ok, sorry.
[08:42] <ompaul> J4kch, glad to see that worked
[08:42] <storkme> ArrenLex, do you know if it's possible to do that without formatting the hard drive?
[08:42] <ompaul> storkme, no worries
[08:42] <J4kch> ompaul: so am I
[08:42] <aleka> slart, this is to verify an edgy install iso actually..and the instructions on the wiki(burningiso HowTo) says it is outdated ( used a firefox extension to verify)
[08:43] <green_earz> aleka: dose the have md5sum file with it ? if so use md5sum to check the .iso against the md5sum file
[08:43] <ArrenLex> storkme: how do you mean "without formatting the hard drive"? Do you mean there's information on it you want to keep, despite there being no partition table?
[08:44] <Slart> aleka: doesn't the install CD have a "verify this cd" option when you boot from it? I might be thinking of debian though
[08:44] <ernz> !beryl
[08:44] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:44] <aleka> green_earz, I can not see an md5 file to download from the ubuntu site
[08:44] <storkme> yeah ArrenLex
[08:44] <gnomefreak> Slart: check intergrity
[08:45] <storkme> i have no idea how that happened lol
[08:45] <gnomefreak> Slart: thats what you are looking for
[08:45] <aleka> slart yes it does.. and I am getting the error Buffer I/O error on device hdc when I try that
[08:45] <Denton_sk> does anyone knows when (or if) it will be possible to run 3D acceleration on ati xpress 200M with opensource driver?
[08:45] <drcode> I am now inside minicom
[08:45] <Slart> aleka: if you know the correct md5 you can just run "md5sum myimage.iso" in a terminal
[08:45] <ArrenLex> storkme: explain to me again how you managed to put information onto a drive with no partition table?
[08:45] <green_earz> aleka: as Slart said :  doesn't the install CD have a "verify this cd" option when you boot from it?
[08:45] <storkme> ArrenLex, no idea, ArrenLex.. i just used mkfs.ext3 on it when i bought it
[08:45] <drcode> is it recommanded to use mgetty or pon?
[08:45] <Slart> aleka: oh.. then you might have a disk error or something..
[08:45] <ArrenLex> storkme: That would make a partition table.
[08:46] <aleka> green_earz,  look at my response for slart please
[08:46] <storkme> ArrenLex, how come fdisk doesn't think i have one
[08:46] <drcode> for some reson pon say exept connect and it dosn't work
[08:46] <drcode> only minicom work
[08:46] <aleka> I am burning it on a different CD now just incase something went wrong while burning the other one
[08:46] <ArrenLex> storkme: I have no idea.
[08:46] <drcode> or recommanded to use mgetty with ppp?
[08:46] <J4kch> green_earz: how do I start bit tornado?
[08:46] <Paavo> Of course it is possible to make a filesystem on a drive with no partition table. Just write to the whole device.
[08:47] <Donald1> hello, how do I enable the "rendering" to play games correctly?
[08:47] <Slart> aleka: if you're getting read errors on the iso I dont think burning again will help.. perhaps download again to a different location and then burn from the new file will help
[08:47] <Rambo3> that doesnt make sence
[08:47] <ArrenLex> storkme: OHH, pavoo has a good point. Can you please pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l?
[08:48] <Donald1> hello, how do I enable the "rendering" to play games correctly?
[08:48] <strabes> Donald1: direct rendering?
[08:48] <lumpki> drcode, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[08:48] <Slart> Donald1: what video card do you have?
[08:48] <strabes> Donald1: you have to install your video card drivers?
[08:48] <ServerCrash> i might sound crazy, but can anyone tell me what difference does distro make, like why fedora or why ubuntu or for that matter suse when almost all of them are same linux
[08:48] <Donald1> strabes: i have installed the drivers
[08:48] <green_earz> J4kch: sudo apt-get install bittornado-gui   then :  /usr/bin/btdownloadgui
[08:48] <storkme> ArrenLex, Paavo, one second
[08:48] <J4kch> ServerCrash: You sond crazy
[08:48] <ServerCrash> you get almost all the same stuff
[08:48] <Donald1> Slart: i have an ATI x300
[08:48] <aleka> Slart, hmm..2 cds wasted.. but do you know of any Ubuntu download mirror that also has an md5 with it?
[08:48] <ernz> Is anyone able to help me getting beryl to work? I used the walkthrough and its all gone tits up. Now the title bars from all my windows are missing and beryl isn't actually working still.
[08:48] <strabes> Donald1: what kind of card do you have?
[08:48] <ServerCrash> J4kch,  i said i might sound crazy
[08:48] <J4kch> green_earz: oh, thanks
[08:49] <ArrenLex> ServerCrash: package management system, package availability, user community, goals and objectives.
[08:49] <Donald1> strabes: ATI X300
[08:49] <green_earz> np
[08:49] <Slart> Donald1: there are some ATI drivers you can download using synaptec... have you done that?
[08:49] <lumpki> ServerCrash, yup. distro is mostly just a personal preference
[08:49] <strabes> Donald1: h/o
[08:49] <strabes> ernz: wiki.beryl-project.org
[08:49] <Donald1> Slart: i have downloaded the drivers with the synaptics
[08:49] <Slart> aleka: nope.. check the ubuntu main site for mirrors
[08:49] <ernz> strabes: I did the walkthrough from there, and it doesn't work at all
[08:49] <ArrenLex> Donald1: I have that. It's hell. fglrx locks up my system and r300 only gets 90 fps on glxgears. You're going to have a lot of trouble.
[08:49] <Subhuman> ServerCrash, the only thing in common is linux - which is just the kernel - you can comapre the kernel to the engine in a car - 10 cars might have the same engine - but they can be totally different cars
[08:50] <Donald1> ArrenLex: mmm, that's reassuring...
[08:50] <LIBe> too hard find wireless network...
[08:50] <strabes> Donald1: did you install fglrx? your card isn't supported by the open source driver
[08:50] <ArrenLex> Donald1: Innit? :)
[08:50] <ServerCrash> i have been using redhat/ fedora from long time but had heard a lot about ubuntu so wondering should i switch and if yes than what differece would i get in ubuntu
[08:50] <ArrenLex> strabes: Yes it is.
[08:50] <Slart> Donald1: ok.. I'm not up to date on ATI drivers.. but check the forums.. there should be plenty of threads about installing ati drivers and enabling hardware rendering and such
[08:50] <nothlit> ServerCrash, things like proprietary stuff, ease of use,hardware support, plug and play , as well
[08:50] <Donald1> Slart: ok, i'll go take a peak
[08:50] <J4kch> ServerCrash: Ubuntu is more user-friendly imho
[08:50] <storkme> ArrenLex, Paavo, http://rafb.net/paste/results/5ufBwt35.html
[08:50] <Slart> I'm there trying to get my nvidia card working =)
[08:50] <ArrenLex> Donald1: Go into /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change your video card driver to "radeon". Then try your game.
[08:50] <ServerCrash> Subhuman, Open office is same so is xine or firefox ...on all the flav of linux
[08:51] <strabes> ArrenLex: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto - X300 isn't supported by the open source ati driver
[08:51] <Subhuman> ServerCrash, okay - for example the way you install all of them is different
[08:51] <nothlit> ServerCrash, Subhuman, the kernel can be compiled with as many or as few options as you'd like so there exists a difference there as well
[08:51] <g0tw00d> can someone tell my Ubuntu locks my USB mouse up ever 15 minutes or so....I have to unplug it then replug it back in.....
[08:51] <Donald1> ArrenLex: it doesnt find the command :s
[08:51] <Subhuman> in ubuntu - since it uses apt - its VERY easy to install a big package like OO - in fedora or anything RPM based - its more difficult as you have to find the other programs OO needs yourself.
[08:51] <storkme> g0tw00d, anything useful from dmesg?
[08:51] <strabes> Donald1: I would recommend that you use fglrx for your specific card
[08:51] <ServerCrash> Subhuman, so is yum in fedora
[08:52] <nothlit> Subhuman, no they have yum synaptic and apt-get
[08:52] <Subhuman> yum is nowhere as near as good as apt though.
[08:52] <g0tw00d> im new to ubuntu....i have no idea what you said :)
[08:52] <strabes> Donald1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:52] <aleka> Slart, thanks.. i got it here http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/edgy/MD5SUMS>> and the MD5 matches with what I am getting on the iso I downloaded... don know what went wrong
[08:52] <nothlit> apt-get/synaptic exists from rpm based systems
[08:52] <Donald1> strabes: how do i use fglrx? and, moreover, what is it? :)
[08:52] <Subhuman> g0tw00d, type "dmesg" in a console
[08:52] <Subhuman> nothlit, exactly
[08:52] <Subhuman> their copying the best system :D
[08:52] <g0tw00d> ok hold on sec... :)
[08:52] <Subhuman> but thats the beauty of linux
[08:52] <Subhuman> go install suse
[08:52] <Subhuman> and ubuntuy
[08:52] <Subhuman> check them out
[08:52] <strabes> Donald1: it's the closed-source ati driver. it's the only linux ati driver that supports your card
[08:52] <Subhuman> youll get a feel for what you like.
[08:52] <strabes> Donald1: go to the link that I pasted above
[08:53] <Donald1> strabes: yes
[08:53] <g0tw00d> ok
[08:53] <storkme> any ideas ArrenLex Paavo ?
[08:53] <Subhuman> ive tried tons of distros before i settled on ubuntu ServerCrash - in fact i used suse for months before i found debian.
[08:53] <SARA> Can someone tell me how to upgrade my firefox when using my terminal
[08:53] <Slart> aleka: internet goblins..  I blame all strange things on them =)
[08:53] <nothlit> SARA sudo aptitude install firefox
[08:54] <strabes> SARA: firefox 2.0 comes with edgy
[08:54] <aleka> :=).. Maybe I should try another download...
[08:54] <ArrenLex> strabes: Don't argue with me. I HAVE THE CARD.
[08:54] <ArrenLex> strabes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35209/
[08:54] <g0tw00d> storkme: am I looking for something in this?  I see my mouse as an input device.
[08:54] <ArrenLex> strabes: YES IT DOES..
[08:54] <ArrenLex> -.
[08:54] <Rprp> Does someone k now how i can 'grep' a word in all the files in a dir?
[08:54] <LIBe> plz somebody help me ToT
[08:54] <ServerCrash> Subhuman, i am fedora 5 now planning to go to 6 or ubuntu...so was seeking some guidance which way to move
[08:54] <lumpki> ServerCrash, maybe try debian or ubuntu for a while and see if you like it.
[08:54] <Paavo> storkme: so you want to convert that drive to a format where it has a valid partition table?
[08:54] <nothlit> Subhuman, its just you were attributing dependency hell to fedora, when there are better package management systems now
[08:54] <ArrenLex> Rprp: grep "hello" *
[08:54] <SARA> thank you!
[08:55] <Paavo> storkme: what are you planning to do with the drive?
[08:55] <strabes> ArrenLex: you're using radeon not ati for the driver..?
[08:55] <Rprp> doesnt work
[08:55] <Rprp> or it takes ages
[08:55] <nothlit> ServerCrash, theres nothing wrong with sticking with that you know
[08:55] <Slart> is anyone else here using the latest nvidia driver on Ubuntu 6.10? if so, can you use the preferences, scree resolution application or does it report the wrong refresh rates in the drop down box?
[08:55] <ArrenLex> strabes: that's right, because the ati driver doesn't support 3D acceleration at all, for any card. The radeon driver does.
[08:55] <Subhuman> nothlit, im not saying its hell - im jus saying apt is better.
[08:55] <strabes> ArrenLex: ok
[08:55] <Subhuman> Slart, the beta? - if so i am.
[08:55] <Paavo> storkme: and I gather you have data there that you want to keep? if so, you'll have to copy it elsewhere before the change.
[08:55] <nothlit> ServerCrash, sometimes distros work better for some systems than others, but if you use ubuntu then you get its advantages and vision
[08:55] <storkme> Paavo, ok, thanksa
[08:55] <ServerCrash> yes as i wondered, becasue gnome/kde remains same for any distro so what diff it makes me if i am with Ubugtu  or with fedora
[08:56] <Slart> Subhuman: the driver from the nvidia site? nto sure if it's beta or not
[08:56] <Subhuman> Slart, and no it doesnt - did you run "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[08:56] <nothlit> 'Subhuman in ubuntu - since it uses apt - its VERY easy to install a big package like OO - in fedora or anything RPM based - its more difficult as you have to find the other programs OO needs yourself'
[08:56] <syock> how do i modify acpi settings so that my mouse won`t make the PC resume from standby mode?
[08:56] <Slart> Subhuman: I'll try that.. hold on
[08:56] <nothlit> ServerCrash, if you want kde you run kubuntu
[08:56] <ServerCrash> nothlit, "advantages and vision" can you throw some light
[08:56] <strabes> ArrenLex: do you know if the open source driver supports X1400?
[08:56] <Paavo> storkme: after you've backed up the data simply use fdisk to create the partition table and a partition, and then create a filesystem on the partition
[08:57] <ServerCrash> nothlit, ubuntu doest have kde during installation
[08:57] <lumpki> you can add kde to ubuntu
[08:57] <Jassossovinik> I can gain access to a remote server via ssh. I want to backup a directory on that machine onto this machine, but I can't work out how to do it.  How should I go about this?
[08:57] <nothlit> ServerCrash, using gnome in ubuntu will definitely be more advantageous compared to kde because its the original and most common installation
[08:57] <nothlit> ServerCrash, theres kubuntu
[08:57] <wasabi> Jassossovinik: scp
[08:57] <nothlit> ServerCrash, kubuntu.org
[08:57] <tonyyarusso> Jassossovinik: scp
[08:57] <nothlit> ServerCrash, also xubuntu
[08:57] <Rprp> if i do this: grep "`dood`='1'" * i takes many other words... :/
[08:57] <wasabi> Jassossovinik: scp -r user@remotebox:/path/to/dir /path/to/local/dir
[08:57] <ServerCrash> :o
[08:57] <g0tw00d> Subhuman: am I looking for something in this output from dmesg?  I see my mouse as an input device.
[08:57] <strabes> ArrenLex: do you know if the open source driver supports X1400?
[08:57] <Rprp> it takes lines where that word isnt in it
[08:58] <whiskey4me> Someone please help me with the upgrade from breeze to dapper, pm me plz
[08:58] <Subhuman> g0tw00d, i dont know - i was telling you what dmesg is :D
[08:58] <Spee_Der> I know nothing. . . .
[08:58] <tonyyarusso> !pm | whiskey4me
[08:58] <ubotu> whiskey4me: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[08:58] <Jassossovinik> wasabi, of course! Sorry, I can't believe i didn't think of that - i was so hung up with rsync/ssh that I didn't think of scp!
[08:58] <nothlit> ServerCrash, theres a lot of gnome innovation ubuntu uses like gnome-app-install its a program that works like add/remove in windows, but you can actually add things and its very user friendly
[08:58] <Slart> Subhuman: hmm.. tried that.. and it still wants me to choose from 50 Hz or 54 Hz.. very strange
[08:58] <wasabi> Jassossovinik: You can use rsync too
[08:58] <g0tw00d> Subhuman:ok thx
[08:58] <wasabi> rsync -arv user@remotebox:/path/to/remote/file localdir
[08:58] <nothlit> ServerCrash, and you get a huge library of packages
[08:58] <Subhuman> Slart, did you restart?
[08:58] <Subhuman> you need to restart.
[08:59] <nothlit> ServerCrash, but things like codecs especially things like windows codecs and things like skype will take more work
[08:59] <Slart> Subhuman: I did a ctrl-alt-backspace
[08:59] <ServerCrash> nothlit, thanks...time for gdm restart ... testing xgl :D brb
[08:59] <Subhuman> Slart, you did?
[09:00] <Subhuman> Slart, do you know your monitors vert and horiz refresh rates?
[09:00] <Slart> Subhuman: yes.. I did a ctrl-alt-backspace.. that restarts the x-server, right?
[09:00] <Slart> Subhuman: yes, I know those... I tried entering those in the xorg.conf file but that didn't help either
[09:00] <goki> hi, does anyone know why I can't find either realplay or realplayer packages, after adding plf and other repositories?
[09:00] <Subhuman> if so - do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and when you get to the screen setup - select advanced? i think  and it will allow you to manually put them in and get the correct rates
[09:00] <goki> this is on edgy eft
[09:00] <Subhuman> Slart, yes it does.
[09:00] <kandinski> is it just me or the Edgy kernels don't use swap memory at all?
[09:01] <whiskey4me> anyone please how do i upgradeto dapper without runninginto black screen
[09:01] <kitche> Slart: well ctrl-alt-backspace kills X but sicne ubuntu uses gdm it gets restarted
[09:01] <Subhuman> kandinski, no for some reason if you upgrade it doesnt get switched on
[09:01] <kandinski> either that or the system monitor has a bug: it reports zero swap use
[09:01] <kandinski> oh
[09:01] <Subhuman> kandinski, run "sudo swapon /dev/hdwhatever"
[09:01] <Subhuman> and then see.
[09:01] <kandinski> Subhuman: I installed from scratch
[09:01] <kandinski> subhuman: thanks
[09:01] <Subhuman> kandinski, well try swapon then look at system monitor.
[09:01] <whiskey4me> howto upgrade to dapper safely??
[09:01] <kandinski> Subhuman: trying now
[09:02] <Subhuman> whiskey4me,  !upgrade
[09:02] <Subhuman> !upgrade
[09:02] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:02] <g0tw00d> is it possible to SSH Ubuntu?
[09:02] <goki> edgy seems less evil than dapper, so far
[09:02] <nothlit> goki, did you do sudo aptitude update?
[09:02] <Subhuman> g0tw00d, yes
[09:02] <strabes> whiskey4me: sudo update-manager -c
[09:02] <Subhuman> just do "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[09:02] <kandinski> swapon: /dev/hda2: Device or resource busy
[09:02] <whiskey4me> subhuman i did that 3 times using the stock software upgrade but i got black screen
[09:02] <goki> nothlit, well I updated in synaptic
[09:02] <Subhuman> or find the "openssh-server" package in synaptic.
[09:02] <whiskey4me> what are the exactct codes i need to enter in the terminal
[09:02] <Subhuman> whiskey4me, using what upgrade method?
[09:02] <Spee_Der> I've taken this as far as I am able. Can someone please tell me how to change thedefault backgrond color in the Opera browser from the defaul white to something other ?
[09:02] <Subhuman> and where?
[09:02] <Subhuman> after upgrade
[09:02] <Subhuman> during?
[09:03] <whiskey4me> the one that doesnt result in balck screen
[09:03] <kandinski> also X does not come back up from suspend or hibernate
[09:03] <Subhuman> Spee_Der, wrong channel - ask in an opera IRC channel.
[09:03] <nothlit> Spee_Der, just use somebody else's css file or modify one to suit your wishes
[09:03] <Subhuman> #opera ?? maybe
[09:03] <involved> hello. I want an account in a Shell Provider with IRC access. what would ou recommend as a good one? (not free)
[09:03] <Spee_Der> Thanks Sub
[09:03] <tabasko> is gnome-look.org down? :(
[09:03] <kandinski> I am assuming the rest does; I don't have another computer to test it with via ssh
[09:03] <whiskey4me> subhuman do u mind if i message u
[09:03] <Subhuman> involved, www.silenceisdefeat.org is great
[09:03] <Subhuman> costs $1
[09:03] <Subhuman> whiskey4me, im not regged.
[09:03] <Spee_Der> TY noth
[09:03] <whiskey4me> oki
[09:04] <nothlit> Spee_Der, Preferences/Web Pages might work
[09:04] <Spee_Der> I will look elsewhere...
[09:04] <firefly2442> tabasko: didn't work for me :(
[09:04] <whiskey4me> im gonna try upgrading but i just know imgonna lose ubuntu again
[09:04] <Subhuman> whiskey4me, use the update-manager way
[09:04] <whiskey4me> subhumanhow exactly?
[09:04] <Spee_Der> I've been working on this most of today and still am not appy, but I won't give up, thanks. . . .
[09:04] <Subhuman> kandinski, did it work?
[09:05] <nothlit> The default and recommended way to update ubuntu is from a GUI app?
[09:05] <Spee_Der> nothlit: Well....
[09:05] <goki> yup, I definitely have PLF repository ok
[09:06] <nothlit> Why isn't there a cli way that isn't recommended against?
[09:06] <Subhuman> nothlit, yes.
[09:06] <Subhuman> nothlit, you can with apt-get and dist-upgrade
[09:06] <nothlit> from the wiki Upgrading using apt-get -- NOT RECOMMENDED
[09:06] <Subhuman> just the gui version handles all the repo updates for you
[09:06] <Subhuman> so you cant mess it up
[09:06] <Subhuman> you can mess up the apt one
[09:06] <nothlit> oh
[09:06] <nothlit> I see
[09:06] <Subhuman> and get a horrible dapper/edgy hybrid
[09:06] <goki> ah, PLF doesn't have realplay
[09:06] <Spee_Der> nothlit: When I do it there, fine. As the new page starts it goes to the color of choice, but then defaults to the bright white background....... Ugggh.......   But I'd also like a different shade here in the IRC as well.....    I will do more research, thanks.....
[09:07] <anorexicpillow> is gnome look.org down right now?
[09:07] <lumpki> anorexicpillow, it was earlier
[09:07] <anorexicpillow> hmm still isnt working for me :(
[09:08] <nothlit> I just really wouldn't want to do anything major that will automatically get interrupted if the x server goes down/depends on so many things  to keep working
[09:08] <con-man> anyone know of a good movie player?
[09:08] <anorexicpillow> vlc
[09:08] <con-man> with divx and xvid capabilities
[09:08] <Slart> Subhuman: ok, back.. when I check the OSD on the monitor it's running at 75 Hz but the screen resolution thingy still thinks it's running at 50 Hz...very odd
[09:08] <rbil> mplayer
[09:08] <firefly2442> con-man: xine, mplayer ?
[09:08] <Spee_Der> vlc is good
[09:09] <Jassossovinik> con-man, VLC can play most things, but many prefer mplayer for it's ease of use
[09:09] <con-man> where do i get the codecs for those
[09:09] <aliyvito> ola
[09:09] <aliyvito> hello
[09:09] <aliyvito> hi
[09:09] <con-man> where do i get codecs for mplayer
[09:09] <alek66> aliyvito, hi what ups
[09:09] <J4kch> !realplayer
[09:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:09] <con-man> <3 bots
[09:09] <Spee_Der> !moo
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <Viscid> moo: os: Microsoft Windows XP Professional - Service Pack 2 (5.1.2600) uptime: 2wks 1day 21hrs 29mins 39secs cpu: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ at 2204MHz (2% Load) gfx: ATI Technologies Inc. (Omega 3.8.291) Radeon X1800 Series (0x7100) 512MB res: 1280x1024 32bit 60Hz ram: 2046/2047.17MB (99.93%) [||||||||||]  hdd: C:\ 174.12GB/279.47GB Free D:\ 21.71GB/279.47GB Free E:\ 82.91GB/279.47GB Free net: BUF
[09:09] <J4kch> con-man, look at those links
[09:09] <con-man> !microsoft
[09:09] <alek66> does ubuntu lack of a bluetooth support?
[09:09] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[09:09] <nothlit> Spee_Der, go back to the pages I gave you earlier, or if you think its too complicated there are tons of irc programs you can use
[09:09] <czr> dpkg-question: is the a way to get a script executed just before dpkg decides to remove some package (either when directly invoked or via apt-get)
[09:10] <anorexicpillow> hmm yah gnome look still doesnt seem to be working for me
[09:10] <firefly2442> con-man: http://ubuntuguide.org/  this page has info on installing codecs
[09:10] <lumpki> nothlit, if something gets messed up with apt-get, you can do 'apt-get -f install'
[09:10] <aliyvito> alek66 weii
[09:10] <aliyvito> :P
[09:10] <nothlit> Spee_Der, I use opera but I don't use it for IRC unless i'm in a pinch
[09:10] <lumpki> nothlit, -f = --fix-broken
[09:10] <Spee_Der> nothlit: Thanks. I really prefer this Opera
[09:10] <con-man> first off im gonna get mplayer off of the repositories
[09:10] <alek66> aliyvito, whats up... you need somthing?
[09:10] <nothlit> lumpki, it stands for -force
[09:10] <aliyvito> alek66 how what?
[09:11] <J4kch> con-man, you do that
[09:11] <lumpki> nothlit, no
[09:11] <nothlit> oh oops guess not
[09:11] <lumpki> hehe
[09:11] <Spee_Der> nothlit: I just need to read & learn more I guess. . .  This white background is overwhelming and boring to say the least...... I prefer something softer. . .  But thanks for the help as well..... ..
[09:11] <SARA> using my terminal can someone tell me how to get Java and flash player?
[09:12] <nothlit> lumpki, hmm some forum i read said it stands for force, anyways i do all package management with aptitude inside screen
[09:12] <jrib> !flash | SARA
[09:12] <ubotu> SARA: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:12] <bluefox83> SARA, why in terminal?
[09:12] <jrib> !java | SARA
[09:12] <ubotu> SARA: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[09:12] <Slart> yay.. I found it.. you had to add something about Twindualview = false to the xorg.conf .. now it's correct
[09:12] <Arawn> hi for all
[09:12] <con-man> this is my first time using linux full time and i love it
[09:12] <con-man> esp beryl
[09:12] <Slart> Option "DynamicTwinView" "False" to be exact
[09:12] <Spee_Der> Hi for Arawn
[09:13] <Salihu> Hi Arawn...
[09:13] <lumpki> nothlit, well, if you're using apt-get dist-upgrade and something goes wrong, apt-get -f install usually helps
[09:13] <Arawn> Hi Spee-Der, Salibu
[09:13] <SARA> ok well the real problem is everytime i go a website where they use a flash player the page crashes ...any suggestions
[09:13] <czr> anyone have a nice link for a "how to use gfs2 with ubuntu" (edgy ok)?
[09:13] <aliyvito> alek
[09:13] <aliyvito> sabes castellano?
[09:13] <con-man> where is a good codec package for mplayer
[09:13] <nothlit> Spee_Der, http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/operaStyles/ ... just use one of their styles or modify it, like i said
[09:13] <aliyvito> alguien q sepa castellano?
[09:13] <Arawn> con-man automatix!
[09:13] <aliyvito> o espaol?
[09:13] <Arawn> !automatix
[09:13] <con-man> !codec
[09:13] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <J4kch> aliyvito, un poquito
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> !es | aliyvito
[09:13] <ubotu> aliyvito: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:14] <aliyvito> ok :D
[09:14] <con-man> how about one that owrks?
[09:14] <con-man> works even
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> !restricted | con-man
[09:14] <ubotu> con-man: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:14] <J4kch> !realplayer|con-man
[09:14] <Spee_Der> nothlit: Yep thanks. I tried that also, but as usual, I'm a dumb dumb.....    I will keep working on this issue, thanks. . . . .
[09:14] <J4kch> !realplayer |con-man
[09:14] <nothlit> Spee_Der, http://webtoman.com/opera/custom/custom_chat.php some more here too
[09:14] <con-man> hm
[09:14] <Spee_Der> nothlit: Thanks.....
[09:14] <itch^> Hello guys. After compileing my 1.6.19 kernel, at boot, the system hangs. It says "Uncompressing linux .. " , and it hangs. Any sugestions ?
[09:15] <christian1222> hi, I cant get the regular ubuntu sounds to work, even though I can play mp3's etc
[09:15] <nothlit> SARA, disable flash or use mediaplayerconnectivity
[09:15] <lumpki> nothlit, apt-get options should work with aptitude also
[09:15] <SARA> how?
[09:15] <Arawn> !automatix | christianl222
[09:15] <ubotu> christianl222: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:15] <firefly2442> Anyone know the number of people running the various versions and types of Ubuntu?  I'm just curious
[09:15] <nothlit> SARA, mediaplayerconnectivity is a firefox extension, go look for it on the firefox addon site and don't ask me about it, i don't use firefox
[09:15] <SARA> ok sorry
[09:15] <Arawn> for me, it's Edgy
[09:15] <nothlit> lumpki, lol you can stop now, i'm not a noob :P
[09:16] <nothlit> lumpki, thanks tho
[09:16] <alek66> i cant get bluetooth devices running
[09:16] <alek66> any help?
[09:16] <PWill> eep! what happened to us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[09:16] <SARA> i just dont know how to disable something
[09:16] <antoniou> alek66: give us some details
[09:16] <nothlit> just use the firefox extension then
[09:16] <PWill> SARA: what do you want to disable
[09:16] <alek66> i installed althe packages
[09:17] <SARA> my flash player
[09:17] <PWill> SARA: what browser are you using?
[09:17] <christian1222> hey guys, I installed mplayer using 'sudo apt-get install mplayer' and it works from terminal, how do i get it to show up on my menu bar?
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> PWill: the US mirror is known to die..might just try another
[09:17] <Arawn> alek66 http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/bluetooth
[09:17] <itch^> After compileing my 2.6.19 kernel, at boot, the system hangs. It says "Uncompressing linux .. " , and it hangs. Any sugestions ?
[09:17] <aiduciukas> Hi!
[09:17] <SARA> forefox
[09:17] <czr> !gfs
[09:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:17] <SARA> firefox
[09:17] <lumpki> SARA, NoScript extension allow disabling of Flash
[09:17] <alek66> antoniou, i installed the packages but cant find any program to interact with the devices, I can even add them to the trusted
[09:17] <czr> figures :-)
[09:17] <alek66> mi palm wont see mi computer
[09:17] <nothlit> lumpki, dist-upgrade isn't just for distribution upgrading btw, you use it whenever a package upgrade requires the installation of a new package or the removal of an existing one
[09:18] <Arawn> alek66 http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/bluetooth
[09:18] <JoshJ> So I installed Kubuntu and Xubuntu, how do I get my Ubuntu loading screen and login screen back?
[09:18] <J4kch> christian1222, it should be under Sound & Video
[09:18] <Slart> ok, for my other problem.. there is a bug in the latest nvidia driver.. when using full screen rendering it restarts the x-server
[09:18] <SARA> ok well everytime i am at a website where they use flash my page crashes
[09:18] <diminthedam> my USB memory devices in 6.06 auto mount randomly, and the comp misreads the flash stick for an ipod, etc. How can i set the specific devices to mount only as themselves?
[09:19] <PWill> SARA: have you upgraded to the new flash 9 beta?
[09:19] <SARA> yes
[09:19] <PWill> the most recent beta?
[09:19] <christian1222> J4kch: its not under there, i checked, and if you go to add/remove programs, it is already checked
[09:19] <SARA> yes
[09:19] <alek66> Arawn, its french....
[09:19] <bwlang> how does one get network-manager to run a script upon association with a network?
[09:19] <aiduciukas> why I need to press titlebar to fous window, I want to press anywhere on window to focus it, how I can do that?
[09:19] <rbil> diminthedam: look at documentation of setting udev rules
[09:19] <Arawn> alek66, sorry ;-) yes
[09:19] <PWill> SARA: which version of firefox are you on?
[09:19] <shwag> I have a Fn-F8 key that switches modes on my laptop. My external monitor runs at a higher resolution. X.org.log shows it sees my external monitor, which is a  N3760w.  How do I get it to detect the higher resolution?
[09:19] <Renan_s2> !aiglx
[09:19] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[09:19] <SARA> im not sure
[09:20] <Arawn> it's not a difficult French
[09:20] <con-man> so i try to play a divx movie with mplayer and I get the error message Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device
[09:20] <PWill> SARA: in firefox, click Help > About
[09:20] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[09:20] <con-man> what does that mean
[09:20] <kitche> con-man: your not in the video group
[09:20] <aiduciukas> why I need to press titlebar to fous window, I want to press anywhere on window to focus it, how I can do that?
[09:20] <sod75> SARA: ihad the same issue, I had to uninstall all flash packages from the repositories, they conflicted with the downloaded one
[09:20] <con-man> where is the video group?
[09:20] <con-man> channel link pls
[09:20] <SARA> 1.5.08
[09:20] <Spee_Der> hey web
[09:20] <con-man> !video
[09:20] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[09:21] <aiduciukas> any help?
[09:21] <SARA> 1.5.08
[09:21] <kitche> con-man: you would just add your user to the video group you can do it though the user admin
[09:21] <aiduciukas> heyy!?
[09:21] <PWill> SARA: ok, well as sod75 suggested, try running `apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree`
[09:21] <PWill> SARA: you will need to be root
[09:21] <con-man> how do I do that
[09:21] <aiduciukas> why I need to press titlebar to fous window, I want to press anywhere on window to focus it, how I can do that?
[09:21] <aiduciukas> any help?
[09:21] <SARA> how do u be root again?
[09:21] <con-man> sudo
[09:21] <diminthedam> rbil: thanks!
[09:22] <con-man> SARA: sudo
[09:22] <SARA> oh yah!
[09:22] <J4kch> christian1222: can't help ya then =/
[09:22] <con-man> SARA: sudo command
[09:22] <aiduciukas> heyy!?
[09:22] <con-man> !user admin
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about user admin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <kitche> con-man: it will be under System > Users
[09:22] <nothlit> !sudo
[09:22] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:22] <SARA> ok what next?
[09:22] <aiduciukas> ANYONE!!!!!!
[09:22] <jrib> SARA: have you been linked to the ARGB bug?
[09:22] <mx-zoom> hey... Anyone knows how to get sound coming of the speakers with an intel HDA? I have a toshiba laptop
[09:23] <kitche> !ask|aiduciukas
[09:23] <ubotu> aiduciukas: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:23] <SARA> im not sure?
[09:23] <christian1222> does anyone know why mplayer does not show up under sound/video in my GUI menu? i installed mplayer using
[09:23] <J4kch> kitche, he did ask
[09:23] <con-man> system-->administration--->users and groups?
[09:23] <Arawn> !abc
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about abc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <inimesekene> when was the first release of Ubuntu?
[09:23] <aiduciukas> why I need to press titlebar to fous window, I want to press anywhere on window to focus it, how I can do that?
[09:23] <christian1222> using 'sudo apt-get install mplayer' and i checked and it works
[09:23] <jrib> christian1222: try killall gnome-panel
[09:23] <con-man> ?
[09:24] <J4kch> jrib: you are so destructive...
[09:24] <kitche> con-man: yes
[09:24] <christian1222> jrib: sweet. youre right, just needed to be resterted
[09:24] <con-man> once im in ther what do I change
[09:24] <firefly2442> jrib: I thought they fixed that issue with the new versions of Ubuntu?
[09:24] <xzk> hey guys, I've got a prob w/ my clock - when I try to adjust the Date & Time it crashes and the Bug Buddy comes up and reports a crash.. over and over :(
[09:25] <jrib> SARA: this is about flash crashing firefox, I haven't really followed everything you said: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/14911   there are 2 workarounds in the comments
[09:25] <itch^> After compileing my 2.6.19 kernel, at boot, the system hangs. It says "Uncompressing linux .. " , and it hangs. Any sugestions ?
[09:25] <Halcy0n> Alright...I have to be doing something stupid.  Why is apt-get hanging here?  "0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (146.137.96.7)] "
[09:25] <jrib> firefly2442: it doesn't usually happen.  I have no idea why
[09:25] <kitche> com-man edit your user's group to include video
[09:25] <kitche> com-man/con-man
[09:25] <Halcy0n> Ah, nevermind...it just felt like taking a very long time to do its thing  (around 3 minutes or so) :)
[09:25] <utab> I can not ssh from my debian box to ubuntu, but I can use ssh to connect from ubuntu to debian
[09:25] <jrib> utab: have you installed openshh-server?
[09:25] <SARA> yes it is ....everytime i got to a page where they use flash it crashes
[09:25] <firefly2442> Halcy0n: firewall issue?  you are connected to the Internet I assume?
[09:25] <Arawn> At default, SSHD is not installed on Ubuntu
[09:26] <utab> jrib, I guess no
[09:26] <kandinski> Subhuman, swapon results in error: swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/b908900a-e352-4b13-888d-e691135b2326: Operation not permitted
[09:26] <kandinski> either this or "device busy"
[09:26] <con-man> i went to manage groups and added a new one called "video" and checked the box by my account
[09:26] <kandinski> any clue?
[09:26] <con-man> still no go
[09:26] <Subhuman> kandinski, run it as sudo
[09:26] <Subhuman> so "sudo swapon /dev/hda1" in my case
[09:26] <Subhuman> where hda1 is w/e you swap partition is
[09:26] <diminthedam> rbil: funny thing. my usb memory card reads as 'scsi'. any ideas?
[09:26] <Halcy0n> firefly2442: it went through.  It just took a very long time for it to decide it wanted to :)
[09:26] <utab> one more question when I want to connect to Debian box, I always have to use ip, the hostnma does not work
[09:27] <kitche> con-man: you have to log out and back in then you will be in video
[09:27] <kandinski> Subhuman: I did swapon -av
[09:27] <bm1> I just bought a SlimStar 310 keyboard and some of the keycodes are missing (setkeycodes needed and some new mapping). Basically I want to create a new Layout for my GNOME Keyboard manager and do the appropriate setkeycodes in the appropriate way. I've never done something like this, so can somebody help me to fix this?
[09:27] <kandinski> where -a turns on swap according to my correctly specified /etc/fstab
[09:27] <brfrodo> jevangelo hi :p
[09:27] <kandinski> and it gives me a "Device or resource busy"
[09:27] <jevangelo> hi
[09:28] <brfrodo> remeber me?
[09:28] <SARA> jrib any more help?
[09:28] <brfrodo> Oo
[09:28] <rbil> diminthedam: it mounts as a sdx device? I think that is normal.
[09:28] <utab> jrib, is that automatically installed when you install ssh
[09:28] <christian1222> anyone have any idea why regular ubuntu sounds wont work, but mp3's do?
[09:28] <beakmann> hey! Somebody setup a irda connection with a mobile phone?
[09:28] <utab> jrib, I mean ssh-server
[09:28] <jrib> utab: not sure
[09:28] <jevangelo> no
[09:29] <kitche> utab: ssh is the client ubuntu split the ssh-server and the client up
[09:29] <Arawn> utab, at default, Ubuntu don't have ssh-server
[09:29] <utab> Arawn, ok what should I do
[09:29] <jrib> SARA: did you read through the comments?  (I'm a little busy atm but give me a few minutes and I can help you with more detail)
[09:29] <SARA> PWIll anything else i need to do???
[09:29] <Arawn> utab apt-cahce search sshd
[09:29] <jevangelo> who are you
[09:29] <christian1222> what is a .chm filetype, and what reads it?
[09:29] <Arawn> apt-cache
[09:30] <utab> Arawn ,thx
[09:30] <christian1222> !.ch
[09:30] <SARA> yeah i kinda read threw im new to all this so  let me know when u have some time :)
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <brfrodo> :P
[09:30] <con-man> didnt work
[09:30] <con-man> i logged back in
[09:30] <Arawn> and you will find the real name of ssh server (sshd)
[09:30] <jevangelo> haha
[09:30] <PWill> SARA: if it still doesn't work, i'd just try uninstalling firefox, and reinstalling
[09:30] <christian1222> !.cht
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cht - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <jrib> utab: s/not sure/yes it is
[09:30] <Arawn> install it
[09:30] <con-man> and the group "video" dissappeared
[09:30] <kitche> utab: con-man: open up a console and type groups it should tell you what groups your in
[09:30] <SARA> how do i do that....
[09:30] <diminthedam> rbil: sorry, i am confused a bit. which of these http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35216/ is my usb flash card? (its the only thing plugged in at moment)
[09:31] <Arawn> utab, np
[09:31] <kitche> utab: what I said was just meant for con-man
[09:31] <con-man> con-man adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[09:31] <blakkinferno> hello everyone
[09:31] <utab> kitche, I have not asked you :)
[09:31] <con-man> so ive set up the video group
[09:31] <con-man> but i still cant play videos
[09:31] <PWill> SARA: ok, first run this command: rm .mozilla/plugins/*
[09:32] <J4kch> Silly question: How do I open ports?
[09:32] <kitche> utab: ok whatever you say sicne what I said had nothing to do with you
[09:32] <utab> Arawn, when I try to connect to debian I have to supply the ip, the hostname fails
[09:32] <con-man> I can but it cant initialize video
[09:32] <con-man> i can play NON divx videos
[09:32] <kitche> con-man: then your probably missing the divx codec
[09:32] <SARA> well i already removed firefox
[09:32] <Arawn> utab, see your /etc/resolv.conf
[09:32] <jrib> J4kch: they are open unless you closed them
[09:32] <sindrum> any ideas as to why mplayer isnt giving me  video only sound?
[09:32] <jrib> sindrum: have you installed w32codecs?
[09:33] <blakkinferno> jrib: Ubuntu automatically opens ports? Noice
[09:33] <sindrum> ok give try ty
[09:33] <con-man> where do  I Get codecs?
[09:33] <xzk> help - my clock keeps crashing, and popping up a bug buddy crashing thing
[09:33] <J4kch> jrib: when I go to http://www.utorrent.com/testport.php?port=18999 for example, it says closed
[09:33] <blakkinferno> I am new to ubuntu, so im just in here to soak up some knowledge
[09:33] <blakkinferno> haha
[09:33] <kitche> !codecs
[09:33] <JoshJ> not a bad idea
[09:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:33] <PWill> blakkinferno: http://wiki.ubuntu.com is a good place to start as well
[09:33] <Arawn> !resolve
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resolve - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <Arawn> !resolves
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resolves - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <Arawn> !resolves.cof
[09:33] <blakkinferno> Okay, ill check it out, Pwill
[09:33] <jrib> J4kch: did you install firestarter?
[09:34] <blakkinferno> thanks
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resolves.cof - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <J4kch> jrib: not really no
[09:34] <blakkinferno> jrib: What is firestarter?
[09:34] <firefly2442> con-man: try here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[09:34] <jrib> !firestarter
[09:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:34] <utab> Arawn, I can see my dns servers and domain there, but what is to do with the hostname resolution
[09:34] <blakkinferno> Ooh, firewalls.
[09:34] <blakkinferno> I see.
[09:35] <blakkinferno> Does anyone here know of any good intel drivers?
[09:35] <J4kch> jrib: installing now
[09:35] <mister_roboto> Arawn: man resolv.conf
[09:35] <kandinski> oh, fixed it!
[09:35] <utab> Arawn, from both sides I can ssh to the other side by supplying ips not the hostnames
[09:35] <ck3> what do we do if http://us.archive.ubuntu.com is borked?
[09:35] <kandinski> !swapon
[09:35] <SARA> Pwill i reinstalled firefox now what?
[09:35] <nothlit> !fireflier
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swapon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <jrib> J4kch: ok, that will let give you a gui, but it should be open afaik
[09:35] <dmglouis> does anyone know how to get ubuntu to recognize a sansa e250r?
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fireflier - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <ck3> as in, who should I tell?
[09:35] <diminthedam> can anyone tell me which is my USB memory stick from this udev print out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35216/ please
[09:35] <J4kch> ck3: use uk.archive.ubuntu.com for example
[09:35] <PWill> SARA: now try reinstalling the flashplayer 9 beta
[09:35] <J4kch> ck3: oh, noone
[09:35] <Halcy0n> ck3: it was slow for me for a minute, but its working fine now.
[09:35] <jrib> SARA: if you want to try the workarounds in the bug just say my name in #ubuntu-classroom.  it's less crowded there
[09:35] <SARA> PWILL how again?
[09:36] <blakkinferno> What are the best drivers to get for Ubuntu for Intels and Radeons?
[09:36] <Arawn> utab, in your resolves.conf, you will write : DEBIAN  [tab]  IP
[09:36] <kandinski> Subhuman, I fixed my bug thanks to a Spanish-language mailing list. How do I tell ubotu about the fix?
[09:36] <PWill> SARA: go to http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[09:36] <firefly2442> blakkinferno: graphics cards you mean?
[09:36] <SARA> cant i just do it in my terminal
[09:36] <kitche> blakkinferno: umm xserver-video-ati xserver-video-intel
[09:36] <blakkinferno> firefly: YUSH.
[09:36] <kandinski> Subhuman: I want to make ubotu give the fix as answer to "!swapon"
[09:36] <beakmann> hey! Somebody setup a irda connection with a mobile phone?
[09:36] <blakkinferno> kitche: What?
[09:36] <ck3> Halcy0n: seems to be having troubles - the 3 times I have loked at it in the last hour say "current bandwidth utilization  0.00 Mbit/s" which makes me think it isn't serving much
[09:37] <J4kch> jrib: it COULD be because of my router, it has a built-in firewall I hear
[09:37] <LacunaV> Is there a way to install ubuntu without installing grub?
[09:37] <jrib> J4kch: yes, that is probably it
[09:37] <dmglouis> can anyone help me?
[09:37] <kitche> diminthedam: do you have sata drives or no?
[09:37] <blakkinferno> kitche: What do i do with those?
[09:37] <mark__> how do I get TV-out working in Dapper?
[09:37] <PWill> SARA: then click on "download installer for linux"
[09:37] <firefly2442> LacunaV: why do you want to do that?
[09:37] <LacunaV> I dont' want it messing with my grub setup, just put the kernel files in /boot
[09:37] <rbil> diminthedam: http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
[09:37] <kandinski> !ubotu
[09:37] <[Gino] > Okay, so... I installed Ubuntu (GNOME) and then I did "aptitude install kubuntu-desktop" Now, can I remove GNOME completley, and just keep KDE?
[09:37] <kitche> blakkinferno: those two packages are for the radeon open source driver and the open source intel driver
[09:37] <SARA> ok i did that
[09:38] <diminthedam> kitche: i dont know what sata drives are. i have a tx31 laptop..with usb stick hanging in it!
[09:38] <blakkinferno> kitche: So do i type something in as a command to download them?
[09:38] <firefly2442> LacunaV: it should just update and keep everything else the same no?
[09:38] <PWill> SARA: sorry, my connection blorped for a second. anyways, next you need to open the .tar.gz file in archive manager
[09:38] <kitche> diminthedam:  then it's probablt /dev/sda1 if your not sure
[09:38] <sindrum> jrib thanks for the tip the codecs worked
[09:38] <blakkinferno> kitche: like sudo aptitude <> ?
[09:38] <blakkinferno> kitche; I dont understand linux commands very well yet.
[09:38] <LacunaV> firefly2442: I don't know. Gentoo didn't
[09:38] <nothlit> Anyone know security/stability of apache vs lighthttpd?
[09:38] <ck3> what package do I install to get the 686 kernel, and keep it up to date?
[09:38] <blakkinferno> kitche: First linux system i've ever tried.
[09:38] <kitche> blakkinferno:  sudo aptitude install xserver-video-(radeon, intel)
[09:39] <utab> Arawn, still no replies
[09:39] <firefly2442> LacunaV: dunno, I haven't tried installing multiple Linux OS's sorry...
[09:39] <blakkinferno> kitche: Thanks ! Will it give 3D ability, or no?
[09:39] <nothlit> ck3, in edgy you can just use the generic kernel thats already installed
[09:39] <SARA> extract ot?
[09:39] <SARA> it?
[09:39] <PWill> SARA: click on the file called "libflashplayer.so" and hit "extract" and make it save to your home folder
[09:39] <blakkinferno> kitche: And also, i thought i read somewhere about a Radeon driver like fgrlx
[09:39] <nothlit> LacunaV, you need to use the alternate install disc
[09:39] <blakkinferno> kitche; Or something similiar
[09:39] <xzk> help i my clock wont let me change the time - it keeps crashing
[09:39] <blakkinferno> kitche: flgrx, flrgx, something
[09:39] <xzk> emergency emergency
[09:39] <kitche> blakkinferno: the intel driver will but the open source radeon won't for that you need the xserver-video-fglrx
[09:39] <diminthedam> kitche: the messages tail tells me its sdb, for some reason http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35218/
[09:39] <blakkinferno> kitche: THANKS!
[09:39] <PWill> SARA: then from the terminal, run `mv libflashplayer.so .mozilla/plugins/
[09:39] <LacunaV> nothlit: Ok, does it say "install ubuntu without grub" or something?
[09:40] <blakkinferno> kitche; I am glad ubuntu has people that are willing to help
[09:40] <blakkinferno> kitche: Thanks a lot
[09:40] <Arawn> utab, see http://www.computing.net/unix/wwwboard/forum/5986.html
[09:40] <kitche> diminthedam: then you probably have sata drives
[09:40] <blakkinferno> kitche: on a side note... I AM LOVING UBUNTU.
[09:40] <kandinski> !factoid
[09:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:40] <nothlit> [Gino] , yes you can, but you'll have to do it per package, you can just use Kubuntu instead next time
[09:40] <diminthedam> kitches: then what?
[09:40] <kitche> diminthedam: see if it's mounted in /media
[09:40] <brfrodo> magoo o/
[09:40] <nothlit> LacunaV, there should be some grub setup config options somewhere along the way, like a regular installer, nothing as obnoxious as the desktop cd not asking you
[09:40] <brfrodo> pvt
[09:41] <PWill> blakkinferno: hooray! try going to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=103 and posting your testimonial
[09:41] <LacunaV> nothlit: Thank god, sounds good. Thanks :)
[09:41] <LacunaV> And thank you firefly2442
[09:41] <diminthedam> kitche: yup it mounts in media, but all my USB devices mount randomly. i was reading udev setting rules, but cant figure out which of that listing refers to my usb stick
[09:41] <rbil> diminthedam:  read this explanation ... you can use more than one way to define the device in a rule :  http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
[09:41] <hayig2000> could i install on one partition or should i have the whole harddrive empty?
[09:41] <blakkinferno> Pwill: haha, i might. Windows is overrated.
[09:42] <diminthedam> rbil: will do. thanks again
[09:42] <PWill> blakkinferno: heh. yes, this is true.
[09:42] <kitche> diminthedam: well you have to mae a udev rule for it it's in /etc/udev/rules.d and I don't think that's what you want sicne udev rules just make it so the device will stick to a certain name
[09:42] <[Gino] > nothlit: So, would I apt-get remove like on http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde ?
[09:42] <dmglouis> does anyone know how to make ubuntu recognize a sansa e250r?
[09:42] <dougb> hey everyone.  i just updated ubuntu and it updated the kernel from .23 to .27, now my ndiswrapper won't install.  do i need to recompile the ndiswrapper to work with the newly updated kernel?
[09:42] <SARA> when i type it in my terminal it does not do anything
[09:43] <nothlit> [Gino] , yeah whichever correct article is the right one on psychocats
[09:43] <jrib> dmglouis: I believe that player has two modes.  You need to set it to the mode that lets it act as a storage device, then just plug it in
[09:43] <nothlit> UMS is the name
[09:43] <nothlit> Unversal Mass Storage
[09:43] <PWill> SARA: run this: ls .mozilla/plugins.
[09:43] <diminthedam> kitche: no, thats what i want.. so my usb devices mount under their name only!
[09:43] <dmglouis> jrib: i have the rhapsody one, and it has only rhapsody and playsforsure modes
[09:43] <kandinski> !swapon is The Edgy swap bug can be fixed by 1: $ sudo fdisk -l; 2: note which hard disk is your swap partition; 3: edit (as root) your /etc/fstab file and substitute your swap partition name for its uuid; 4: $ sudo swapon -a; (or restart)
[09:43] <PWill> SARA: run this: ls .mozilla/plugins/
[09:43] <kandinski> !swapon
[09:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swapon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:43] <kandinski> damn, ubotu
[09:43] <kandinski> I just told you
[09:44] <nothlit> dmglouis, playforsure is a rhapsody mode and sandisk players have a UMS option.
[09:44] <blakkinferno> kitche: Eeep i have a question!
[09:44] <dmglouis> jrib: im not sure if the playsforsure is MTP
[09:44] <kitche> diminthedam: well for usb it's harder to do
[09:44] <jrib> kandinski: it has to be approved
[09:44] <FirstStrike> Seveas: EVIL
[09:44] <kandinski> please, someone who can approve this tell ubotu
[09:44] <nothlit> dmglouis, well actually playforsure is what rhapsody uses
[09:44] <blakkinferno> kitche: I typed in sudo aptitude install xserver-video-intel and it said couldnt find any packages with matching name or description
[09:44] <jrib> dmglouis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286629&highlight=sansa
[09:44] <hayig2000> is there a manual to read before installation?
[09:44] <JoshJ> put it on the wiki page, Kanafani
[09:44] <Seveas> FirstStrike, yes
[09:44] <blakkinferno> kitche: Sorry if its a dumb question.
[09:44] <JoshJ> i think you have to do it that wa
[09:44] <JoshJ> *way
[09:44] <kandinski> ah, ok: ubotu just told me the ops have been informed
[09:44] <kitche> blakkinferno: try xserver-xorg-video-intel
[09:44] <SARA> still nothing
[09:44] <JoshJ> ah, nifty
[09:44] <nothlit> dmglouis, its a windows media protocol, its for DRM files
[09:45] <christian1222> does anyone know what i should do with a .chm file?
[09:45] <utab> Arawn, that did not help
[09:45] <blakkinferno> kitche: Okay, thanks. And a quick question... ive read a bit through the forums, and heard of alot of "xorg" stuff. What is it?!
[09:45] <diminthedam> kitche: i would usually worry, but now i cant even find my USB mounted folder anymore. Says 'iriver' on desktop, but its not in /media or anywhere else to be found!
[09:45] <dmglouis> well i have the 250r
[09:45] <jrib> christian1222: install xchm and view it
[09:45] <nothlit> dmglouis, if you've added drm files from rhapsody you won't be able to access them with a linux system
[09:45] <kandinski> oh, badly formed too
[09:45] <diminthedam> kitche: i woudnt...
[09:45] <JoshJ> !Xorg
[09:45] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:45] <dmglouis> the only modes available are rhapsody and playsforsure
[09:45] <kandinski> !swapon is <reply>The Edgy swap bug can be fixed by 1: $ sudo fdisk -l; 2: note which hard disk is your swap partition; 3: edit (as root) your /etc/fstab file and substitute your swap partition name for its uuid; 4: $ sudo swapon -a; (or restart)
[09:45] <kandinski> better
[09:45] <kitche> blakkinferno: it's a server that does graphcis Desktop and such
[09:45] <blakkinferno> kitche: Yay, its working!
[09:45] <JoshJ> X.org is essentially your windowing system
[09:45] <blakkinferno> kitche: Oh, okay, thanks.
[09:46] <PWill> SARA: open your home folder, and click on view, and select "show hidden files"
[09:46] <nothlit> dmglouis, like i said before rhapsody uses playforsure.
[09:46] <kitche> diminthedam: wellif it's an iriver you might need to search for a udev rule for it sicne I only know about the ipod
[09:46] <blakkinferno> kitche: Now, it stopped doing stuff. Did it automatically install intel drivers? Can i use the gfx card fully now?
[09:46] <dmglouis> nothlit: then why do i have two different modes
[09:46] <nothlit> !ums
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ums - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <christian1222> jrib: youre awesome, thanks
[09:46] <PWill> SARA: then look for a folder called .mozilla
[09:46] <Arawn> utab.... If you're pinging IP, the server respond ?
[09:46] <JoshJ> ls -a shows hidden folders, just fyi
[09:46] <diminthedam> kitche: its the usb memory card i'm worried about
[09:46] <hayig2000> could i install on one partition or should i have the whole harddrive empty?
[09:47] <DanielHolth> Hello
[09:47] <DanielHolth> I'm trying to get freenx to work
[09:47] <utab> Arawn, I can ping and ssh with the ip
[09:47] <itsmabus> Does java/flash/etc work automatically with ubuntu yet?
[09:47] <con-man> !codecs
[09:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:47] <SARA> ok
[09:47] <DanielHolth> There are a number of patches that one can manually apply, and I got it to work with the 2.0 windows client under Dapper only by applying those patches, but that machine is somewhere else.
[09:47] <PWill> SARA: did you find that folder?
[09:47] <SARA> yeah!
[09:48] <jrib> dmglouis: not sure, you should send an email to sandisk while you try to figure it out
[09:48] <dougb> has anyone else had a problem with the NDISWRAPPER breaking after an automatic update?
[09:48] <blakkinferno> kitche: Do i have to do anything to make the drivers work, or are they automatically being used?
[09:48] <PWill> SARA: ok, go into it, and open a folder called plugins
[09:48] <kitche> blakkinferno: you have to reconfigure xorg to use the i810 driver
[09:48] <dmglouis> nothlit: thanks for clearing it up, i changed it to rhapsody mode and it works now
[09:48] <klaagvaak> No
[09:48] <SARA> ok there is nothing there
[09:48] <PWill> ok
[09:48] <blakkinferno> kitche: wow... how do you do that? (Sorry for all the questions)
[09:48] <BrokenPipe> Is there a DVD ripper that isn't HandBrake? Or someone here that has had success with HandBrake that is willing to help me out?
[09:48] <kitche> blakkinferno: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and pick the i810 driver in a console then ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:49] <PWill> SARA: keep that window open. now open the flash .tar.gz file again
[09:49] <blakkinferno> kitche: Okay, thanks.
[09:49] <SARA> ok
[09:49] <Arawn> utab... have you restarted network ?
[09:50] <JoshJ> uh, doesn't flash 9 just require you to copy libflashplayer.so to /usr/share/firefox/plugins ?
[09:50] <x0x> hye
[09:50] <itch_> Hello guys. I have a problem. After compileing and and installing a custom kernel (2.6.19), the system hangs at boot time. Any sugestion, please ?
[09:50] <x0x> anyone know why i cant copy files and folders
[09:50] <kitche> JoshJ: yes that's all you have to do
[09:50] <strabes> x0x: permissions?
[09:50] <x0x> yes
[09:50] <dio> #gettinghelp
[09:51] <jrib> JoshJ: s/share/lib
[09:51] <JoshJ> ah
[09:51] <JoshJ> whoops
[09:51] <blakkinferno> kitche: Eeep, i tried once, and it didn't seem to go well...
[09:51] <nothlit> or ~/.mozilla/plugin(s)
[09:51] <blakkinferno> kitche: so i tried again and now it says
[09:51] <JoshJ> (also it's s/share/lib/ while we're on the subject of correcting people :P )
[09:51] <PWill> SARA: extract the file, and then drag it back to the plugins folder that you kept open
[09:51] <x0x> i logged as user but the partitions is belongs to root
[09:51] <blakkinferno> kitche:debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[09:51] <SARA> ok i did that
[09:52] <kitche> blakkinferno: do you have dpkg-reconfigure still running?
[09:52] <kandinski> !search swap
[09:52] <ubotu> Found: swap
[09:52] <nothlit> x0x, use sudo and you'll need -r to move files
[09:52] <kandinski> !swap
[09:52] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[09:52] <PWill> SARA: now try opening firefox agai
[09:52] <PWill> n
[09:52] <nothlit> x0x, if you want to do it graphically use gksudo nautilus
[09:52] <SARA> ok i opened fox
[09:53] <PWill> SARA: now try going to youtube or something that uses flash
[09:53] <sindrum> any ideas on getting spdif working?
[09:54] <SARA> crashes
[09:54] <blakkinferno> kitche: It isn't minimized, and i clicked exit, so it shouldn't be running, but i don't know.
[09:54] <blakkinferno> kitche: and sorry for slow reply, was putting in contacts.
[09:54] <Rambo3> SARA clear cache and if remove firefox local files
[09:55] <SARA> dont no how
[09:55] <PWill> SARA: open firefox again, and in the address bar, type about:plugins
[09:55] <SARA> ok?
[09:56] <xzk> hey guys in need some help if you have a chance
[09:56] <agliv5> Greetings :)  I'm trying to install the JRE 5.0 Update 10 and am stuck trying to get Ubuntu to recognize that the update is there...  Can anyone help?
[09:56] <x0x> nothlit:i've tried it. (nautilus:11211): GnomeUI-WARNING ,(nautilus:11211): libgnomevfs-WARNING and it opens root file browser
[09:56] <PWill> SARA: scroll through the list, and tell me if you see flash player show up more than once
[09:56] <jrib> !helpme xzk
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about helpme xzk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <jrib> !helpme | xzk
[09:56] <ubotu> xzk: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:56] <xzk> I have asked.. nobody helps
[09:56] <xzk> I've been in here for 30mins
[09:57] <nothlit> x0x, both sides should be root file browser
[09:57] <itch_> Hello guys. I have a problem. After compileing and and installing a custom kernel (2.6.19), the system hangs at boot time. Any sugestion, please ?
[09:57] <blakkinferno> kitche: are you there?
[09:57] <Huibert> xzk: whats your question?
[09:57] <ernz> I have BERYL WORKING! Sweet.
[09:57] <blakkinferno> What exactly IS Beryl?
[09:57] <jrib> xzk: try asking again every 20 minutes, new people with different knowledge show up all the time.  You can also try the mailing list and the forums if no one knows atm here
[09:57] <kitche> blakkinferno: yea I m here you don't havea  dpkg-reconfigure running at all but it says it's locked did you do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[09:57] <SARA> one time
[09:57] <PWill> blakkinferno: a 3D window manager
[09:58] <xzk> huibert: my clock crashes and bring up bug buddy everytime i try to adjust the date & time
[09:58] <ernz> But how to I zoom out and see all my desktops as a cube, and then free-rotate the cube?
[09:58] <blakkinferno> Pwill: Kay,thanks.
[09:58] <xzk> jrib: thanks bro! :)
[09:58] <ailean> !beryl | blakkinferno
[09:58] <ubotu> blakkinferno: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:58] <Huibert> xzk: the clock applet in the panel?
[09:58] <Dybber> Does anyone know which package that contains Esetroot?
[09:58] <xzk> huibert: yes, top right
[09:58] <x0x> nothlit: what do u mean?i'm new(just installed it yesterday)..hehe
[09:58] <blakkinferno> kitche: Yes, thats what i typed in. It worked the first time, but i clicked enter instead of ctrl+whatever on accident, so i don't think it worked right.
[09:58] <blakkinferno> kitche: it asked me to name it
[09:58] <blakkinferno> kitche: and i named it, but it brought me to a screen i coundnt get past
[09:59] <blakkinferno> kitche: So i exited and decided to try again.
[09:59] <PWill> SARA: that is just too strang, i'm lost for ideas. try posting your problem to ubuntuforums.org
[09:59] <blakkinferno> kitche: But, it wont let me.
[09:59] <jrib> SARA: what is the output of this command:  xdpyinfo| grep -i 'depth of root'
[09:59] <PWill> strange*
[09:59] <Huibert> xzk: it crashes directly after you try to add it, or only after you alter the date/time settings?
[09:59] <kitche> blakkinferno ok open up a console and do killall dpkg-reconfigure
[09:59] <blakkinferno> kitche: then try again?
[09:59] <nothlit> x0x, both the copying and the pasting window should both be root permission windows
[09:59] <SARA> i dont know
[09:59] <jrib> SARA: of course, just enter it in a terminal and press enter
[09:59] <blakkinferno> kitche: says...dpkg-reconfigure(5897): Operation not permitted
[10:00] <blakkinferno> dpkg-reconfigure: no process killed
[10:00] <xzk> huibert: after i try to adjust date & time - it was added default when i installed ubuntu, but the time was never right - i guess it conflicted with winxp
[10:00] <kitche> blakkinferno: yes make sure you do sudo killall dpkg-reconfigure
[10:00] <blakkinferno> kitche: o, forgot sudo
[10:00] <ndc> i have the problem with vmware server
[10:00] <slicky> hi.. how do i disable so my screen dont get black after 10 mins of inactivity?  iv disabled the screensaver.. and the powersave thing ..
[10:00] <blakkinferno> kitche: thanks
[10:00] <ernz> Will someone running beryl please tell me how to free-rotate the cube?
[10:00] <kitche> ernz: ctrl-alt+<- or ->
[10:00] <ndc> the vmware hung when start up  and take long time when start
[10:00] <PWill> slicky: hit "Alt+F2" and type in gnome-power-preferences
[10:01] <nothlit> ernz press ctrl+alt and start dragging with the mouse
[10:01] <Huibert> xzk: yes, win xp asumes the bios is your local time, linux uses your bios as GMT and uses your  timezone for the corect time
[10:01] <JoshJ> hold control and drag the mouse
[10:01] <Jassossovinik> ernz, hold down ctrl+alt and then click your mouse and move it around
[10:01] <nothlit> hold ctrl+alt actually
[10:01] <SARA>  depth of root window:    24 planes
[10:01] <nothlit> xp doesn't use utc?
[10:01] <JoshJ> either that changed or i changed it heh
[10:01] <ernz> nothlit, Jassossovinik: Cheers.
[10:01] <Huibert> xzk: have you tried using ntp in linux
[10:01] <x0x> nothlit: the folder i want to copy isn't there,in root windows.
[10:01] <ndc> how that
[10:01] <jasp> Dybber, Esetroot is in package eterm
[10:01] <blakkinferno> kitche: I typed the command, then redid your instructions
[10:01] <slicky> PWill, yes.. been there..  everything there is disabled..
[10:02] <blakkinferno> kitche: it restarted ubuntu
[10:02] <blakkinferno> kitche: Is that what its supposed to do?
[10:02] <jrib> SARA: hmm then it may not be the same problem.  Do you get any terminal output when firefox crashes if you run firefox from the terminal?
[10:02] <nothlit> x0x, view> show hidden files/folders or press ctrl+h
[10:02] <kitche> blakkinferno: you did the ctrl+alt+backspace it restarts Xorg which is what you want
[10:02] <Huibert> xzk: have you tried using ntp in linux?
[10:02] <x0x> nothlit: it is in another partitions
[10:02] <Dybber> jasp, thanks :D
[10:02] <blakkinferno> kitche: Okay, but i did it straight on the list.
[10:02] <slicky> PWill, it quite enoying when im watching movies ;P
[10:02] <blakkinferno> kitche: I think i did it wrong.
[10:02] <SARA> im not sure let me try
[10:02] <xzk> huibert: what is ntp - i have had the prob in the past with linux conflicting with my winxp time - but that was on my desktop, and to fix that prob i just told linux to use 'utc' i think.. and that solved the prob that time
[10:02] <nothlit> well you have to mount the partition and then navigate to it
[10:02] <blakkinferno> kitche: How do i check if it worked?
[10:03] <jrib> SARA: make sure you close all firefox first
[10:03] <ernz> nothlit, Jassossovinik, kitche: This is kinda bizarre, Just installed beryl, and I just tried running an AVI, and the colours within the video are all weird and the image is ghosting, whats the problem, here?
[10:03] <racarter> how do I configure firewall settings in ubuntu?
[10:03] <peder_> I got some problem with apt.. Cant use it, cause this happends: http://pastebin.no/585
[10:03] <kitche> blakkinferno: look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to see if i810 is listed
[10:03] <Huibert> xzk: yes, that should fix the winxp / linux conflict.
[10:03] <xzk> huibret: i'm on my laptop this time
[10:03] <blakkinferno> ok
[10:03] <nothlit> ernz, try googling it, i think i've seen that issue somewhere and the fix online
[10:03] <Huibert> xzk: but it is not good that a timeadjustment crashes the clock applet
[10:03] <Huibert> !ntp
[10:03] <ubotu> ntp: Network Time Protocol: network utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2.0a+stable-9ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 256 kB, installed size 464 kB
[10:03] <xzk> huibret: after i did that 'utc' thing to my laptop is when it stopped letting me adjust the clock and crashing in linux
[10:04] <SARA> ok so what do i do now?
[10:04] <kitche> ernz: yeah there is a fix on the net for it it's a bug with beryl/compiz
[10:04] <nothlit> Huibert, you can change the time from the clock applet lol
[10:04] <Huibert> xzk: it could be that adjusting the time in the applet causes problems.
[10:04] <xzk> huibret: does it ever happen that the 'utc' shouldn't need to be checked in order for linux and winxp to have the same time?
[10:04] <Huibert> xzk: or causes the crash
[10:04] <blakkinferno> kitche: I CTRL+F'ed it
[10:04] <jrib> SARA: did you make firefox crash?
[10:04] <nothlit> xzk, you can change it so linux doesn't use utc
[10:04] <blakkinferno> kitche: and found this
[10:05] <ernz> kitche: Any idea where this "fix" might be? :)
[10:05] <blakkinferno> kitche:
[10:05] <xzk> huibret: i never noticed the time being wrong before i checked the box on my laptop - i just did it preimptively because i remembered my winxp desktop pc having clock probs with linux
[10:05] <kitche> !paste|blakkinferno
[10:05] <ubotu> blakkinferno: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:05] <Huibert> xzk: that's why you could try to let the ntp daemon adjust the time
[10:05] <blakkinferno> kitche: wait, it didn't work
[10:05] <blakkinferno> kitche: ooh.
[10:05] <blakkinferno> kitche: wait what do i do then ?
[10:05] <kitche> ernz: might be on beryl's forums
[10:05] <agliv5> Greetings :) can anyone help me update the shortcut to the newest version JRE 5.0 Update 10 that I just installed?
[10:05] <SARA> no
[10:05] <slicky> hi.. how do i disable so my screen dont get black after 10 mins of inactivity?  iv disabled the screensaver.. and the powersave thing ..  i run xgl
[10:05] <blakkinferno> kitche: Well it says Driver "1810" under Graphics Controller
[10:05] <blakkinferno> kitche: and under that, BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
[10:05] <xzk> huibert: whats ntp
[10:05] <kitche> blakkinferno: ok then you have i810 as your driver :)
[10:06] <Huibert> !ntp | xzk
[10:06] <jrib> SARA: please join me in #ubuntu-classroom by typing   /join #ubuntu-classroom       (there will be less traffic there)
[10:06] <ubotu> ntp: Network Time Protocol: network utilities. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2.0a+stable-9ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 256 kB, installed size 464 kB
[10:06] <blakkinferno> kitche: YES. So it will work? Thanks for your help, im really greatful.
[10:06] <SARA> ok well i did and when the page crashes  the terminal closes
[10:06] <blakkinferno> kitche: Ubuntu has a great community. Im sticking with it.
[10:06] <SARA> i dont know how to get there
[10:06] <Huibert> xzk: it is a way to allway get the correct time from an internet server
[10:06] <jrib> SARA: /join #ubuntu-classroom
[10:07] <Huibert> xzk: you can activate it under administration -> date and time
[10:07] <{Malice}> I deleted on accident the icons (by clicking on remove from panel on tops near there date and time)that pop up when there is something running in the background that I closed like gaim or frostwire. Does anyone know how to get this back on there?
[10:07] <blakkinferno> kitche: I am gonna go do homework, so yeah, thanks for the help. I'll probably be back here later.
[10:07] <racarter> how do I turn off a firewall in ubuntu 6.10?
[10:07] <blakkinferno> kitche: haha
[10:07] <xzk> huibert: also - this sounds lazy but is there an option or plugin that auto adds your name to my replies in xchat so i dont have to retype your name everytime for it to highlight it for you to catch it on your screen
[10:07] <jrib> SARA: that's a command you can type in your chat client.  In the same pleace where you write messages to me
[10:07] <ernz> !beryl
[10:07] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:07] <Huibert> xzk: hmmm, I type the first two characters and then use TAB completion
[10:08] <xzk> huibert: so instead of 'utc' use ntp ?
[10:08] <Huibert> xzk: but I use gaim
[10:08] <xzk> huibret: aaaaah very nice! thanks!!!!!!!!!!
[10:08] <xzk> Huibert: gaim have good irc functionality?
[10:08] <Huibert> xzk: I dont know if it is good, works for me
[10:08] <xzk> Huibert: im using xchat i think.. cant tell the difference between xchat and gnome xchat
[10:09] <JoshJ> xchat > xchat-gnome
[10:09] <JoshJ> mainly stuff works better
[10:09] <Huibert> xzk: I'm using linux since 1996, but irq/icq only since last week :-)
[10:09] <JoshJ> xchat-gnome just uses gtk and looks a bit more gnome-like
[10:09] <cassidy> xzk: xchat-gnome has a GNOME spirit UI
[10:09] <xzk> Huibert: System > Admin > Time and Date: still crashes bringing up bug buddy
[10:10] <briGR> tst
[10:10] <Huibert> xzk: autsch, "this should not happen"
[10:10] <Tominator> hi, which version of the nvidia drivers do i need to run aiglx?
[10:10] <xzk> none of those things make sense to me... spirit UI ? GTK ?
[10:10] <|amicraw|> how do i upgrade my sys to edgey ?
[10:10] <kitche> Tominator: the latest drivers from the website but they are used for aiglx they are used to run beryl on plain xorg
[10:10] <coreyh> anybody notice gam_server crashing once per day on edgy?
[10:10] <Huibert> xzk: do you have some outlandish hardware or bios ?
[10:11] <xzk> Huibert: laptop
[10:11] <|amicraw|> what is the command to upgrade to edgey
[10:11] <kitche> Tominator: not used to run aiglx*
[10:11] <xzk> Huibert: compaq presario v5000 laptop
[10:11] <kitche> |amicraw|: sudo update-manager -c
[10:11] <Tominator> but if they won't run?
[10:11] <nothlit> xzk, that just means it follows the HIG human interface guidelines as specified by GNOME
[10:12] <xzk> nothlit: what does that mean lol.. human interface gnome guidelines?
[10:12] <kitche> Tominator: well you need the kernel source to install the nvidia drivers from nvidia website
[10:12] <IamEthos> what is the root password for an Ubuntu liveCD?
[10:12] <kitche> !root|IamEthos
[10:12] <ubotu> IamEthos: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:12] <Tominator> ah... are there packages on multi or universe?
[10:13] <fordboy0> IamEthos:  $ sudo su -
[10:13] <nothlit> xzk, they are guidelines set out but the gnome organisation/foundation/whatever it is so humans/people can use programs more easily
[10:13] <kitche> Tominator: not the latest drivers ubuntu is using the 8776 drivers
[10:13] <[swb] > humans/people?
[10:13] <Huibert> xzk: hhmmm, I just googled "clock applet crash" and got a lot off pages
[10:13] <Huibert> Haven't read them yet, but you might not be alone
[10:13] <xzk> nothlit: gotcha
[10:13] <kitche> Tominator: but you can install the nvidia drivers they are in multiverse
[10:13] <nothlit> [swb] , humans as referenced in human interface guidelines, people as in lay person more easily understandable speak
[10:14] <Tominator> kitche: i know, bit they are to olt to work with beryl, aren't they? so i tried to install the newer ones, but some of them won't work, some of them are buggy, and some of them won't install...
[10:14] <xzk> Xchat is better than Gnome Xchat?
[10:14] <kitche> Tominator: you need XGL to use the drivers in ubuntu
[10:15] <coreyh> amicraw: if you're on dapper, you edit /etc/sources.list replace "dapper" with "edgy" and then do regular updates
[10:15] <Comrade_S> xzk:  gnome xchat simplifies the xchat gui
[10:15] <kitche> xzk: well xchat-gnome !=xchat
[10:15] <Tominator> kitche: thats too buggy either :)
[10:15] <Ali2004> Hello All
[10:15] <coreyh> amicraw: or follow this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[10:15] <Comrade_S> I mean the ubuntu xchat gui pACKAGE
[10:15] <justin_> When I select "all upgrades" from Synpatic, will it remove old versions and replace them with the new? -- keeping disk space relatively the same as before I updated things that were marked for updates?
[10:15] <xzk> what do you guys use for IRC in linux?
[10:15] <justin_> xzk: I use Irssi
[10:15] <xzk> lets take a poll
[10:15] <Jassossovinik> xzk, Xchat
[10:15] <coreyh> I'm using gaim
[10:15] <Tominator> kitche: thats why i tried to install the newer nvidia-drivers
[10:15] <xzk> oh great whats irssi
[10:16] <SARA> JRIB!
[10:16] <Ali2004> My first time to use this room... Anyone can tell me the rules of this room?
[10:16] <justin_> xzk: Open a term and type 'irssi' :)
[10:16] <xzk> :)
[10:16] <DigitalNinja> I'm trying to build  a gnucash 2.0.2 package from the source tar file. It seems that the package build process is looking for "/usr/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults". This directory is located in /etc. How do I tell dpgk-buildpackage to look in /etc?
[10:16] <kitche> Tominator: well you can download the linux-source from the repo and get the nvidia driver that way
[10:16] <tigsa> Ali2004, no loitering
[10:16] <justin_> When I select "all upgrades" from Synpatic, will it remove old versions and replace them with the new? -- keeping disk space relatively the same as before I updated things that were marked for updates?
[10:16] <DigitalNinja> testing
[10:16] <xzk> justin: irssi = terminal window chatroom?
[10:16] <kitche> xzk: irssi is a cli irc client
[10:16] <Huibert> !guidelines > Ali2004
[10:16] <Tominator> thanks...
[10:16] <Ali2004> tigsa:Thanks
[10:16] <justin_> xzk: Well it's a console application :) but you can run it from an X terminal yes
[10:17] <jrib> SARA: /join #ubuntu-classroom
[10:17] <justin_> well only one way to find out I guess.. updates time..
[10:17] <xzk> justin_: lol XChat already looks like a terminal window.. i have it set to use the terminal font
[10:17] <DigitalNinja> I'm trying to build a package for gnucash 2.0.2. When I run dpkg-buildpackage I get an error. It's looking for "/usr/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults". This is in /etc. How do I tell dpkg-buildpackage to look in /etc?
[10:17] <Tominator> kitche: does the newest one install then?
[10:17] <thiagop> Hi guys! :) How i update fstab automatically?
[10:18] <kitche> Tominator: it should
[10:18] <lucas9000> can anyone help me with mounting a hd real quick?
[10:18] <stekotzurivychps> jhow long does it take to get response from broadcast ping ??
[10:18] <Tominator> great, thanks ;)
[10:18] <xzk> hmm... xchat gnome or xchat
[10:18] <Huibert> lucas9000: what are you trying to do?
[10:18] <xzk1> hmm
[10:18] <nothlit> xzk, you think it does lol?
[10:18] <purem> hello everyone
[10:18] <x-r00t-x> lucas9000,
[10:18] <lucas9000> i formatted an internal drive to ext3 using gparted
[10:19] <lucas9000> then mounted the drive according to these instructions: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountlinux
[10:19] <purem> does anyone know how to make certaint programs open by default when you login. Like gaim and checkgmail
[10:19] <xzk1> wow xchat has a LOT smaller font than xchat gnome
[10:19] <lucas9000> now gparted says the drive is mounted, but i can't find it anywhere
[10:19] <xzk1> how can i get it to highlight my msg's and the msg's to me
[10:19] <Comrade_S> purem:  system > preferences > sessions
[10:19] <lucas9000> i don't see it in the /storage folder created according to that page's instructions
[10:19] <Huibert> lucas9000: open a terminal and type mount, is it in the list?
[10:20] <tigsa> lucas9000, if you type 'mount' it should tell you the location of all mounted volumes
[10:20] <lucas9000> ok brb
[10:20] <tigsa> Huibert, ><
[10:20] <purem> thank you Comrade
[10:20] <lucas9000> /dev/sdc1 on /storage type ext3 (rw)
[10:20] <lucas9000> that's the one
[10:20] <Huibert> tigsa: what do ypu mean >.<
[10:20] <tigsa> lucas9000, there it is, /storage
[10:20] <xzk1> I have to say.. linux's IRC clients kick the ass of windows clients
[10:20] <tigsa> Huibert, nothing.. i forgive you! :D
[10:21] <lucas9000> but when i use the folder browser to browse it, it doesn't show up in /storage...?
[10:21] <[swb] > whats the best linux irc client?
[10:21] <Huibert> lucas9000: type "df -h" you should see it in the free space listing
 wow xchat has a LOT smaller font than xchat gnome <== xchat >> xchat-gnome :-)
[10:21] <Tominator> kitche: i need legacy drivers... I've got a Ti4400 but where du i get new ones?
[10:21] <xzk> swb: i think its Xchat all the way
[10:21] <Huibert> lucas9000: you just formatted it, its empty
[10:21] <Ali2004> Is it true that Canonical will stop supporting PowerPC from Feisty Fawn?
[10:21] <kitche> Tominator: from nvidia website they have legacy drivers as well
[10:21] <lucas9000> huibert: it did show up there as well
[10:21] <Tominator> kitche: thanks ;)
[10:22] <lucas9000> but how do i now put anything on it if it?
[10:22] <DBO> Ali2004, I dont know aobut feisty, but support will eventually drop as PPC isnt made by well... anyone any more
[10:22] <XiXaQ> How can I list the currently logged in users and their processes?
[10:22] <Huibert> lucas9000: well, there you are, it's there, and empty,
[10:22] <Huibert> go grab some mp3's and vids and copy them :-)
[10:22] <lucas9000> ok ty huibert and tigsa
[10:22] <xzk> raise your hand if you are an Xchat Power User - I got some questions to ask :)
[10:22] <Jassossovinik> XiXaQ, "users" lists logged in users and "ps -ef" lists all processes and their initiating user
[10:22] <lucas9000> i am truly a noob at this :)
[10:23] <Jassossovinik> xzk, #xchat ;-)
[10:23] <lucas9000> later
[10:23] <XiXaQ> Jassossovinik, thanks. :)
[10:23] <Tominator> kitche: i don't find them?
[10:23] <Tominator> ahh there they are ^^
[10:23] <XiXaQ> Jassossovinik, oh, and how can I force another user to log out?
[10:23] <x-r00t-x> #ubuntu-offtopic . ok i was banned for my name. and i change it . so plesae unban me
[10:23] <Ali2004> DBO: well. it mean that Powerpc users must re-migrate to Debian?
[10:23] <x-r00t-x> lol pplz ban me for just host name
[10:24] <xzk> jassossovinik: thanks!  -- also, lol wow.. that name is not irc friendly
[10:24] <LjL> x-r00t-x: bring this kind of issues to #ubuntu-ops please. not for here.
[10:24] <gopp> hey
[10:24] <Jassossovinik> xzk, "jas+tab" ;-)
[10:24] <gopp> !ext2
[10:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:24] <Jassossovinik> xzk, tab-completion for the win ;-)
[10:24] <Tominator> kitche: 1.0-7184??? hell damn it! these are older ones, than i installed? arend there 9xxx supporting the ti4400?
[10:24] <gopp> I tryed getting ext2 to mount in windows
[10:24] <gopp> but no luck, after I installed the driver
[10:24] <DBO> Ali2004, I dont think they will be dropping support that fast
[10:24] <gopp> is thier any other way
[10:25] <Ali2004> DBO:Thanks
[10:25] <Huibert> gopp: is that a windows question?
[10:25] <juans> Cual es la ultima version de ubuntu?
[10:25] <gopp> I am trying to mount,  my unbuntu drive in windows
[10:25] <Huibert> !es > juans
[10:25] <gopp> to transfer stuff,
[10:25] <gopp> is that possible
[10:25] <J4kch> Say, anyone know a good program to listen to podcasts/radio ?
[10:25] <Ali2004> wow.... this room is multilingual
[10:25] <gopp> I am on dual boot
[10:25] <gopp> !ext
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <Tominator> kitche: sorry, was that rude? im not that into english ;)
[10:26] <Huibert> gopp: I've heard off a windows filesystem plugin to mount ext2/3 and reiserfs, ......
[10:26] <fordboy0> gopp: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[10:26] <DigitalNinja> is anyone building their own packages?
[10:27] <gopp> fordboy0,  I installed that and rebooted still it didin't mount my ubuntu drive
[10:27] <raich> hey i got this problem with .wmv files... some of them play and some others just have sound but no video. i have w32codecs intalled and use totem, any ideas?
[10:27] <gopp> and thier support is none
[10:27] <gopp> or very litte
[10:27] <J4kch> raich: get mplayer
[10:27] <fordboy0> Did you use the Control Panel app?
[10:27] <Ali2004> totem-xine is nice too
[10:27] <gopp> fordboy let me see
[10:27] <J4kch> psh
[10:27] <raich> tote-xine?
[10:27] <dhuv> hello all, I am using kubuntu and I would like to change the setting to have kdesu prompt for the root password rather than the user's password
[10:27] <Ali2004> much better than totem-gstream
[10:27] <fordboy0> gopp: http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html#conf_drv_ltr
[10:27] <desrt> does anyone know if there is a way to make an interface in /etc/network/interfaces depend on another?
[10:28] <desrt> so that it isn't brought up until the other one is up
[10:28] <raich> ok i'm gonna try with totem-xine
[10:28] <raich> thanks
[10:28] <Huibert> dhuv: kdesu is based on sudo , it will never prompt for a root password
[10:28] <agliv5>  Greetings :) can anyone help me with problems that I am having installing the JRE 5.0 Update 10?
[10:28] <fordboy0> gopp:  as little as I use windows (always _other_ people's PCs), I've had success with it every time.
[10:28] <Ali2004> don't forget to install the plugin for firefox too
[10:28] <Ali2004> LOL
[10:28] <gop> fordboy0 you do
[10:28] <strabes> !ask | agliv5
[10:28] <ubotu> agliv5: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:28] <J4kch> Say, anyone know a good program to listen to podcasts/radio ?
[10:29] <gop> fordboy0 you mean the ifs drives icon
[10:29] <gop> yes I used htat
[10:29] <Huibert> !sudo | dhuv
[10:29] <ubotu> dhuv: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:29] <DigitalNinja> raich: Where are you from?
[10:29] <gop> but it don't show my linux drive
[10:29] <fordboy0> gopp: With EXT3 filesystem on my external USB anyway
[10:29] <raich> DigitalNinja, peru, why?
[10:29] <fordboy0> gopp: Is it EXT2/3?
[10:29] <gop> ext3
[10:29] <gop> what ever defualt with ubuntu
[10:29] <DigitalNinja> raich: Thought you were someone I new.
[10:29] <pecisk> !ati
[10:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:29] <fordboy0> That sure is odd.
[10:29] <raich> DigitalNinja, oic
[10:29] <gop> all I see is two ntfs drives
[10:29] <fordboy0> gopp: I think default for Ubuntu is ReiserFS.
[10:30] <gop> oh,
[10:30] <gop> that might be it
[10:30] <Huibert> fordboy0: I think the default is ext3
[10:30] <fordboy0> Huibert:  I don't recall :(
[10:30] <purem> does anyone know how to change an icon to another icon
[10:30] <gop> !ReiserFS
[10:30] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[10:30] <DigitalNinja> raich: Are there a lot of Linux users in peru?
[10:30] <purem> like if I wanted the swiftfox icon to still be firefox
[10:30] <shwag> anyone know how to get a dell laptop to do a resolution of 1360x768
[10:30] <J4kch> How do I get the latest JAVA version (with firefox being able to use it)?
[10:30] <gop> !EXT2
[10:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about EXT2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <fordboy0> ubotu:  'tis why I use XFS... lol
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tis why I use XFS... lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <Huibert> !ext3
[10:31] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[10:31] <Ali2004> DigitalNinja:I believe he/she is gone
[10:31] <Huibert> fordboy0: I'm teh winner :-)
[10:31] <DigitalNinja> Ali2004: Thanks
[10:31] <christian1222> has anyone used mythtv?
[10:31] <gop> fordboy0 yes I installed that but hmm
[10:31] <finalbeta> On my Card it seemed to give about half the quality tvtime gave me.
[10:32] <gop> my 60 gig linux drive
[10:32] <gop> won't show
[10:32] <fordboy0> If you want to exchange data between Windows and Linux, you can always set up a FAT32 partition...
[10:32] <christian1222> i have a tv tuner card, and im wondering how to use it with ubuntu
[10:32] <agliv5> strabes:  I did ask a question... I tried to install following the guide and it's not working, so can anyone help?
[10:32] <fordboy0> Or just stop using Windows :-D
[10:32] <christian1222> finalbeta: you think tvtime would work better?
[10:32] <mc44> !vlc
[10:32] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[10:32] <finalbeta> christian1222, yes I do. It's fairly simple.
[10:33] <purem> Songbird should be added to that list
[10:33] <christian1222> finalbeta: ill try it and tell you what i think, thanks
[10:33] <wildfire_> ello.
[10:34] <finalbeta> christian1222, tvtime plays TV. Mythtv has allot of fancy stuff. You have to choose what you need.
[10:34] <roe> does anyone know if flash9 has hit the repos yet?
[10:34] <silly_girl22> i need help with wine please. i have no sound. does anyone have experience with that problem?
[10:34] <x-r00t-x> hi silly_girl22
[10:35] <silly_girl22> hi
[10:35] <x0x> need helps
[10:35] <christian1222> finalbeta: so this is going to seem dumb, but im really new to linux, do you know where the information page is on how to install tar.gv files
[10:35] <christian1222> finalbeta: sorry, tar.gz
[10:35] <roe> man tar you'll see it
[10:35] <silly_girl22> christian, tar -xzvf *.tar.gz
[10:35] <J4kch> How do I get the latest JAVA version (with firefox being able to use it)?
[10:35] <finalbeta> Or just doubleclick the file, it will open in the package manager, unpack it, and read the readme.
[10:35] <x-r00t-x> silly_girl22,  i think wine doesnt have sound :S
[10:36] <Huibert> !java
[10:36] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:36] <silly_girl22> a voip program does no good with wine if you have no sound
[10:36] <Jassossovinik> x-r00t-x, I think it does if you configure it
[10:36] <tigsa> silly_girl22, neville?
[10:36] <J4kch> Huibert, danke
[10:36] <Huibert> J4kch: then you can also install the jre firefox plugin with synaptic
[10:36] <agliv5> I tried to install the JRE 5.0 Update 10 using the guide at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper and it didn't work.  Unfortunately, I don't know what when wrong... can anyone help?
[10:37] <silly_girl22> ventrilo, and no, i dont want to use another program. my friends use this one and i like it.
[10:37] <LjL> x-r00t-x: i prefer beer, too, but then WINE does have sound
[10:37] <x-r00t-x> hmm
[10:38] <LjL> x-r00t-x: if you type "winecfg", you'll see you can configure the sound. perhaps this may help silly_girl22 as well
[10:38] <x0x> i dont have the permission to copy the file which are read only(locked icon by using tree view) and from the root window(gksudo nautilus) the folders(partitions) wasnt there.anyone?
[10:38] <x-r00t-x> i tried out wine . i didnt like it . themes like first version of windows
[10:38] <LjL> x-r00t-x: you can use XP themes
[10:38] <x-r00t-x> LjL,  i have to try again then :D
[10:38] <wildfire_> anyone get banshee to work on xubuntu.. its hanging on sound initialization. =(
[10:38] <Huibert> agliv5: if you don't know what went wrong, how should I know?
[10:38] <Huibert> how am I supposed to help you then??
[10:39] <x-r00t-x> LjL,  on wine ? :O
[10:39] <LjL> x-r00t-x: yes. those i tried (mostly KDE-lookalike themes, to make Windows programs look less out of place) worked very slowly, but perhaps a standard XP theme will do OK
[10:39] <nothlit> msstyles slow apps down
[10:39] <LjL> nothlit: indeed... those i've tried, at least.
[10:39] <wildfire_> tried, 0.11.2 on xubuntu no luck..
[10:40] <nothlit> A lot
[10:40] <tigsa> silly_girl22, ok, i think i know the problem
[10:40] <LjL> but if nothing else, you can change the colors to fit with the rest of your desktop. that's already something
[10:40] <nothlit> btw new wine *26 has better msstyle config in winecfg
[10:40] <m1iguel> hola
[10:40] <tigsa> silly_girl22, the fix is multiple sound programs running at once?
[10:40] <LjL> oh and now that i think of that, actually Edgy's KDE (don't know about Gnome) has a built-in control panel applet for doing exactly that - matching WINE's colors and fonts to KDE's
[10:40] <tigsa> silly_girl22, or the cause rather
[10:40] <nothlit> .9.26
[10:40] <m1iguel> alguien espaol?????
[10:40] <x-r00t-x> LjL,  can you unban me on ubuntu-offtopic. they banned me for my real name.
[10:41] <LjL> !es | m1iguel
[10:41] <ubotu> m1iguel: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:41] <zylche> Does anyone know anyway to edit the lock screen? :P
[10:41] <Renan_s2> !paste
[10:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:41] <agliv5> Huibert:  the problem apparently is that Ubuntu doesn't know where to look to find the Update (if that makes sense...)
[10:41] <mattsg> anyone help me with installing? I'm trying to install on a USB hard drive, but the installer failed at installing GRUB
[10:41] <m1iguel> oh
[10:41] <Huibert> agliv5: you get update sover synaptic? or some other update?
[10:41] <mattsg> Maybe because I put (sda) instead of /dev/sda? Do I have to redo the installer, or can I set up grub another way and boot normally?
[10:42] <wildfire_> i notice, the same sound initialization problem on ubuntu forum.. but nobody responded.. except for bump. anyone know abit more about banshee than i ?
[10:42] <silly_girl22> any wine users here?
[10:43] <nothlit> <--
[10:43] <nothlit> oh sudo modprobe snd-seq
[10:43] <silly_girl22> nothlit, do you have sound with wine?
[10:43] <nothlit> and you can add snd-seq to /etc/modules
[10:44] <agliv5> Huibert: as the guide states, I downloaded the *.bin via sun's website...  When I run sudo update-alternatives --config java it doesn't list the dirrectory where the update is installed...
[10:44] <nothlit> silly_girl22, i don't get any error messages with sound configuration but no apps i use with wine actually use sound
[10:44] <nothlit> i installed the jack libraries and got /dev/snd working to get rid of the error message
[10:44] <Huibert> agliv5: I'm reading the guide now brb
[10:45] <mattsg> does it do anything important after install grub?
[10:46] <nothlit> if you install the aoss package you could use oss
[10:46] <Huibert> agliv5: this guide does not mention an java .10 update, just .08
[10:46] <Huibert> agliv5: it looks like the guide shows how to overide the exsisting java install with a newer one...
[10:47] <christian1222> what does this mean: 'checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables'
[10:47] <agliv5> Huibert: the problem is that I don't have a /usr/java directory, the previously installed JRE is in /usr/lib/jvm/
[10:47] <jrib> christian1222: what are you trying to compile?
[10:47] <Huibert> agliv5: what is the output of "java -version" on an commandline
[10:47] <kitche>   christian1222 your missing software that is needed for build-esstenial to work right
[10:47] <christian1222> jrib: i was trying to install tvtime, running configure
[10:47] <Blaize> can anyone help me out getting my dual screen running ?
[10:47] <Huibert> agliv5: the usr/java directory does not look correct to me either
[10:48] <jrib> !info tvtime | christian1222
[10:48] <ubotu> tvtime: A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-2.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 636 kB, installed size 1768 kB
[10:48] <najand> Hi
[10:48] <christian1222> jrib: thanks, i didnt know ubuntu had a package for it
[10:48] <jrib> christian1222: no need to compile, it is in universe.  However so that you know, your error means you don't have a C compiler.  You can install build-essential to get one (as well as other stuff for development)
[10:48] <Huibert> agliv5: ooopps, I just reread the guide concering the "upgrade" procedure
[10:48] <agliv5> Huibert: it's saying java: command not found
[10:49] <christian1222> jrib: once again, thanks
[10:49] <Huibert> agliv5: it upgrade java only for firefox/mozilla
[10:49] <jrib> christian1222: np
[10:49] <wastrel> is there a way to escape a keyboard combination so Gnome will ignore it and pass it through to the terminal (like function keys, ctrl- keys and suchlike?)
[10:50] <Huibert> agliv5: have you installed java as in "http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox" ?
[10:50] <jrib> wastrel: if it's a gnome-terminal shortcut, get rid of it in the gnome-terminal preferences.  I don't know of a way to escape it
[10:50] <nominal_hilarity> anyone know anything about ActionScript here?
[10:50] <awbassett> Is anyone having issues with us.archive.ubuntu.com? It so, it may be worth putting into the topic, as archive.ubuntu.com works for me.
[10:50] <cafuego_> agliv5: there is a sun-java-5 or somesuch package in multiverse I think.
[10:51] <Huibert> agliv5: it looks like you have no java installed....
[10:51] <nothlit> you have to agree to sun's license or use blackdown jre
[10:51] <christian1222> jrib: are you a software engineer?
[10:51] <Zarephath> anyone heard of a MMORPG for linux named Planeshifter? I have been searching for it, but google isn't finding the website..
[10:51] <jrib> christian1222: nope
[10:51] <Ali2004> I have a question. Firefox freezes on my Edgy when I try to write something on its search box.
[10:51] <agliv5> Huibert: Synaptic says otherwise...
[10:51] <Mark45> Hi everyone, why is my internet so slow in
[10:51] <Ali2004> Any Clues?
[10:51] <LadyNikon> Zarephath: yeah i heard of it
[10:51] <wastrel> Zarephath:  planeshift
[10:52] <jrib> !ipv6 | Mark45
[10:52] <ubotu> Mark45: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:52] <Mark45> Hi everyone, why is my internet so slow in ubuntu 6.10?
[10:52] <FirstStrike> Zarephath: It's Planeshift, not Planeshifter
[10:52] <christian1222> jrib: just wondering, i work in hr for google, were always looking for helpful people
[10:52] <Mark45> thanks, I have tried that but it seems to not have worked
[10:52] <Daviey> how can i give other users 'admin' access.  Ie let them control serial port and mount usb filesystems?
[10:52] <Huibert> agliv5: but if java was installed correctly, it should have worked on the command line
[10:52] <Zarephath> LadyNikon, wastrel: Ahh...ok thanks
[10:52] <Budgieman> hi, i've used ubuntu for quite a while, but i've only installed the latest 6.10 version in the last few days, and i'm having some trouble with my video card
[10:52] <kitche> Maek45: do about:config in firefox and look up ipv6 and double click and your net should be faster
[10:52] <christian1222> jrib: ;-D
[10:52] <Raphael> will the new nvidia drivers ever appear in the official ubuntu repos?
[10:53] <Mark45> kitche should it be bold or not?
[10:53] <Budgieman> i'm stuck with a really low resolution, and i can't seem to find the video settings i used in the last few versions
[10:53] <kitche> Mark45: yeah it turns bold after it's turned to true
[10:53] <FirstStrike> Raphael: They're already there.
[10:53] <Budgieman> i'm using an ATI card, which i've heard is widely supported with linux
[10:53] <FirstStrike> Oh, the -new- ones..maybe
[10:53] <Mark45> kitche: so i need to turn it to bold then?
[10:53] <Zarephath> Thanks all..should have known I fscked it up...always turns out to be fat fingers...
[10:53] <jrib> christian1222: Ubuntu's community just makes you want to help people :)
[10:53] <kitche> Mark45: yes if you double click it it shoudl turn false to tru
[10:53] <lane> If someone has the  time I could use l  help, I am trying to install amarok through apt-get and it stalls at:
[10:54] <lane> 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (146.137.96.15)] 
[10:54] <Mark45> ubotu: I tried that guide and it seems to not have helped
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I tried that guide and it seems to not have helped - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <christian1222> jrib: right you are, just thought I would ask
[10:54] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Mark45 about bot | Mark45, see the private message from Ubotu
[10:54] <Mark45> haha thanks
[10:55] <budluva_> lane, i'd say the mirror is down
[10:55] <budluva_> lane, try another mirror
[10:55] <agliv5> Huibert: I agree; however Synaptic says that sun-j2re1.5+update07 is installed...
[10:55] <Mark45> jrib: I have a pretty new computer, could my hardware support the ipv6?
[10:55] <lane> budluva , How would I do that?
[10:55] <awbassett> lane, i removed the us. from my sources.list and everything works fine
[10:56] <SoulOrb> Bye Gentoo, Hello Ubuntu.  Hello everyone.
[10:56] <x-r00t-x> LjL,  how many mb  ram required for ubuntu ? i got 512 mb and i using nothing. memory usage is 80% . what i do
[10:56] <budluva_> lane, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:56] <lane> awbasset,   thank you
[10:56] <pooya> i have attached a usb device to ubuntu, I think its detected, it comes up under lsusb. how can I access it?
[10:56] <bobbyd> hi
[10:56] <LjL> x-r00t-x: 512Mb is fine. the memory usage you see from top, free etc means nothing -- the memory's just being used by the kernel for caching files. it'll free it when applications need it
[10:57] <bobbyd> does anyone know how to set up zeroconf/avahi so I can ping machine.local and it'll work?
[10:57] <x-r00t-x> LjL,  oh i got it
[10:57] <Huibert> agliv5: hmm,
[10:57] <bobbyd> I can browse the machines on the network, but I can't just use their addresses
[10:57] <tonyyarusso> lane: Others have reported issues with the US mirror today (and in the past), btw
[10:57] <Huibert> agliv5: if you rightclick on the package in synaptic, does it list the java binary is installed?
[10:58] <nothlit> Gnome needs that much more ram?
[10:58] <Ali2004> lane: try system->administration->software sources
[10:58] <wildfire_> Anyone use banshee with gnome ?
[10:58] <blameless> bobbyd: you'd have to add the libnss-mdns stuff
[10:58] <agliv5> Huibert: java-package isn't installed
[10:59] <lufis> Which package do I need to compile a program that needs "XScreenSaver Extension"?
[10:59] <Huibert> agliv5: as I wrote, the guide which says to unpack in /usr/java will _not_ give you a working java enviroment
[11:00] <Huibert> agliv5: it's just the browser plugin
[11:00] <pooya> what a phones file system?
[11:00] <lufis> pooya: fat?
[11:00] <Blaize> can anyone try and help me with getting my dual screen working ?
[11:00] <Huibert> agliv5: try an "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin"
[11:00] <lufis> pooya: Do you mean the filesystem on a phone's flash memory?
[11:01] <pooya> lufis, I am try to connect my phone to ubuntu
[11:01] <pooya> lufis, it comes up under lsubs
[11:01] <lufis> pooya: ah
[11:01] <tanlaan> is anyone else having problems getting to "www.gnome-look.org"?
[11:01] <pooya> lufis, lsusb
[11:01] <pooya> lufis, trying to mount it
[11:01] <lufis> pooya: sorry, you're barking up the wrong tree. I'm a newb myself :(
[11:01] <pooya> lufis, :)
[11:02] <nothlit> pooya, is it UMS compliant?
[11:02] <lufis> pooya: although you could probably just use "auto" for the filesystem
[11:02] <nominal_hilarity> anyone good with Flash/ActionScript?
[11:02] <Ali2004> tanlaan:It does not connect to their server
[11:02] <Blaize> ATI radeon 9800 (128 MB)
[11:02] <Blaize> need help with getting it working with dual screen
[11:02] <agliv5> Huibert: already the newest version
[11:03] <Ali2004> tanlaan: Probably a server crash
[11:03] <hou5ton> anyone know how to make the Win key open Synaptic?>
[11:03] <lane> Thanks guys
[11:03] <lane> Working now
[11:03] <aarm> Is this us.archive.ubuntu.com source down?
[11:03] <lane> Seems like it
[11:03] <aarm> bummer
[11:03] <tanlaan> Ali2004: damn :(
[11:03] <agliv5> hou5ton: try looking up keyboard shortcuts in google...
[11:03] <rosen37> someone use irssi?
[11:04] <aarm> this is my first ubuntu install
[11:04] <pooya> nothlit, what's UMS?
[11:04] <aarm> doesn't bode well
[11:04] <Ali2004> us mirror has been down since last night
[11:04] <aarm> is this common
[11:04] <Ali2004> I use irssi
[11:04] <hou5ton> agliv5:   ok ... but I've been searching a long time ..... but I'll try that again.
[11:04] <nothlit> universal mass storage
[11:04] <aarm> i was using debian but thought I would try ubuntu on a second system
[11:04] <Huibert> agliv5: try to find the java binary in your system, or try to reinstall the java packages
[11:04] <nothlit> thats what you need to be able to mount it
[11:04] <Blaize> ATI radeon 9800 (128 MB)     need help with getting it working with dual screen.
[11:04] <aarm> what happened to us.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:04] <Ali2004> aarm: you would love ubuntu
[11:04] <Huibert> agliv5: can't help you any further, got to go to sleep  :-)
[11:04] <nothlit> some phones use proprietary drivers to transfer info
[11:05] <nothlit> they don't use UMS
[11:05] <aarm> that's what I think but this source thing is a really bummer
[11:05] <Kira> Hello.
[11:05] <agliv5> Huibert: Thanks for the help :)
[11:05] <dbe> Which layout engine does w3m use?
[11:05] <nothlit> usually gnome-volume-manager should be able to auto mount it if its UMS
[11:05] <tanlaan> Kira: hello :D
[11:05] <gilnim> evenin'
[11:05] <Ali2004> aarm: what about it? (the source)
[11:06] <aarm> in apt-get get any ip that it attempt to connect to times out
[11:06] <lehaid> are there any mirror issues now ? since synaptic keeps getting stuck for me
[11:06] <Ali2004> aarm: Are you using US mirrors?
[11:06] <aarm> Ali2004: any place I can look for status?
[11:07] <binarydigit> anyone having problems connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:07] <DrNic1> hi, dunno if anyone else has had this problem - i'm using Beryl, and everytime I press shift + backspace, the windowing system restarts, as if i've just pressed Ctrl + alt + backspace! which is a really annoying default, does anyone know where i'd change that?
[11:07] <binarydigit> in apt
[11:07] <aarm> lehaid: im having the same issue
[11:07] <aarm> binarydigit: looks like it
[11:07] <lehaid> aarm: ahh, i see
[11:07] <binarydigit> doh
[11:07] <lehaid> binarydigit: yes
[11:07] <lehaid> OMG, ubuntu is dead :)
[11:07] <Comrade_S> huh?
[11:07] <Dasnipa`> huh?
[11:07] <lehaid> anybody here using vmware with ubuntu as guest os, and can move mouse in and out of the VMWARE without ctrl-alt ?
[11:07] <Ali2004> aarm & lahaid: Are you using US mirror?
[11:07] <aarm> I tell you this has been a great transition to ubuntu
[11:07] <lehaid> Ali2004: i am
[11:08] <DrNic1> anyone?
[11:08] <Ali2004> US mirrors are down since last night
[11:08] <wy> Is there a good way to setup wireless lan for ibm think pads? I'm using Intell/Pro
[11:08] <nothlit> lehaid, you need to install the vmware addons
[11:08] <cafuego_> lehaid: You need to install the vmware tools in the guest for that to work
[11:08] <pooya> nothlit, used this : sudo mount -t usbfs /proc/bus/usb/002/004 /mnt/phone
[11:08] <pooya> nothlit, seemed to work
[11:08] <Ali2004> Try to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove all "us."
[11:08] <nothlit> lehaid, first install build-essential in the guestos
[11:09] <nothlit> pooya, thats great :)
[11:09] <lehaid> nothlit: i've installed vmware tools
[11:09] <pooya> nothlit, but nothing in the directory..
[11:09] <lehaid> everybody, i INSTALLED VMWARE TOOLS, before installing there was an old version in where that worked
[11:09] <xen> so, quick question, automatix: good or bad?
[11:09] <xzk> nothlit: do you know how to fix a broken clock
[11:09] <LjL> !automatix | xen
[11:09] <ubotu> xen: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:09] <lehaid> when i installed the new vmware tools it stoped working
[11:09] <lehaid> do i need to do something abuot it /
[11:09] <WilderSon> hello, does anyone know where or how to get the dvb-dev package?
[11:10] <lehaid> nothlit cafuego_ any other ideas how to fix that mouse issue in vmware?
[11:10] <pooya> any idea where I can find help on connecting phones?
[11:10] <kr0n1x> hi men where i can download tcl-devel and tk-devel?
[11:10] <kr0n1x> for my ubuntu 6.10
[11:10] <DrNic1> hi, not sure if anyone else has had this problem, but when I press shift + backspace the windowing system restarts as if i'd just pressed ctrl + alt + backspace. what an annoying default! anyone know how I can change it?
[11:11] <LjL> DrNic1: go to #ubuntu-xgl
[11:11] <Ali2004> ubotu: I agree with you on Automatix
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I agree with you on Automatix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <nothlit> lehaid, thats the only way
[11:11] <pooya> can I mount somthing under /proc/bus/usb?
[11:11] <LjL> !bot | Ali2004
[11:11] <ubotu> Ali2004: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:11] <xen> LgL, thanks
[11:11] <nothlit> lehaid, thats what the tools /addons are for
[11:11] <DrNic1> ok cheers
[11:11] <darfy> Hello all. I've got a soundcards question. I've got two soundcards A and B. My speakers are one A. I want to play line-in from B in speakers (on A). How can I dot this ?
[11:11] <lehaid> nothlit: yes it doesnt work... what to check for ? vmware-stats tells me it's good
[11:11] <aarm> thanks for the news....good luck all
[11:11] <nothlit> then you didn't install it correctly
[11:11] <Ali2004> Now that
[11:12] <lehaid> they add more stuff, like networking & shared dir support
[11:12] <Ali2004> LOL :)
[11:12] <nothlit> try again and make sure the compilation parts worked properly
[11:12] <lehaid> nothlit: what could i have done wrong for example ? any ubnutu - specific isntructions ? cause the script went ok
[11:12] <nothlit> and did you do a restart of the virtual machine
[11:12] <amattas> I'm not an ubuntu user, I'm a gentoo user, and I kind of figured out how Synaptic works, but I have no idea why it keeps failing the refresh is gets xx% done and just hangs
[11:13] <nothlit> there isn't anything special for ubuntu, just installing build-essential and maybe the linux headers
[11:13] <lehaid> what do you people get when you run "runlevel" ?
[11:13] <nothlit> you didn't skip any options?
[11:13] <Discerer> what IRCd do you suggest I get? I dont need one that can handle clustered networks but it should be good and powerful
[11:13] <Ali2004> amattas: maybe some sources you have are dead
[11:13] <Comrade_S> Discerer:  Unreal?
[11:13] <Lamego> lehaid, run level 2
[11:14] <silly_girl22> are there any wine users that can help me?
[11:14] <Ali2004> what about wine?
[11:14] <Lamego> Discerer, any that meets your functional requirements, which only uou know :)
[11:14] <Dasnipa`> im just a wine drinker, sorry
[11:14] <LadyNikon> i drink it.. but that about it
[11:14] <Dasnipa`> ;)
[11:14] <silly_girl22> Ali2004, do you use wine?
[11:15] <Dasnipa`> sometimes i use wine in cooking that is good too
[11:15] <Mando> hello
[11:15] <Ali2004> Hmm, sometimes, not a lot.
[11:15] <tonyyarusso> !offtopic
[11:15] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:15] <tonyyarusso> :)
[11:15] <optikalmouse> where can i get SVN 1.4?
[11:15] <Mando> does anyone know whether a 64mb ATI mobility radeon X700 supports beryl svn or not?
[11:15] <hou5ton> anyone know how to make the Win key open Synaptic?>
[11:15] <amattas> its the newest release, so I would assume the repositories are pretty up to date?
[11:16] <optikalmouse> and where can i get the ATI binary drivers?
[11:16] <lehaid> any vmware userse, in /etc/rc2.d which files do you have names *vm* ?
[11:16] <silly_girl22> i have no sound in wine. does anyone have sound?
[11:16] <Lamego> openexit, help.ubuntu.com
[11:16] <lehaid> do ls /etc/rc2.d/*vm* what do you get ?
[11:16] <ethos> What does "SIOCGIFFLAGS error: No such device" mean when I click on the network connection icon?
[11:17] <elsebasbe> I got an odd problem. when I start a movie (in vlc, mplayer or totem) the picture is just black (but there is sound). though, if I start the same movie two times (with two player, at the same time) I get picture in the second one!
[11:17] <Lamego> usually it means its trying to work with a device file which does not exist
[11:17] <lehaid> nothlit cafuego_ can you run it ?
[11:17] <elsebasbe> mplayer throws me this message "Requested audio codec family [mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not avalible. enable it at compilation."
[11:17] <cafuego_> lehaid: Can I run what? vm*? No, I don't have an Ubuntu guest, only an Ubuntu host.
[11:18] <optikalmouse> elsebasbe: you need to install the mp3 stuff maybe?
[11:18] <lehaid> i see
[11:18] <lehaid> k
[11:18] <sizzam> anyone else having problems with us.archive.ubuntu.com, or know of a workaround?
[11:18] <wceoscar> why cani i control my volume from the volume control?
[11:19] <optikalmouse> wceoscar: right click > preferences
[11:19] <Ali2004> #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:19] <elsebasbe> optikalmouse: it worked before this day, i havent uninstalled anything :s
[11:19] <optikalmouse> wceoscar: you have to set the device
[11:19] <neebs> yeah, sizzam, i am having problems with it too
[11:19] <nothlit> lehaid,  I dont have ubuntu installed as a guest os
[11:19] <sizzam> thanks neebs
[11:19] <wceoscar> i have my device
[11:19] <lehaid> nothlit: isee :)
[11:19] <wceoscar> even tho my card is a sound blaster audigy it says ALSa
[11:19] <zspada15> !blacklist
[11:19] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list
[11:20] <lehaid> any vmware users with vmware installed as guest os ?
[11:20] <Borat> hey guys, how do i change the scrreen resolution in GNOME? i click on the screen resolution button, but it doesnt show 1280x 1024, only 1024x768....
[11:20] <nothlit> lehaid, i did it before and if you install the linux-headers-generic and build-essential it should work fine
[11:20] <sizzam> lehaid, vmware isn't an os
[11:20] <elsebasbe> optikalmouse: what is the packages name?
[11:20] <elsebasbe> optikalmouse: because mp3lib doesn't excist
[11:20] <optikalmouse> elsebasbe: google it?
[11:21] <optikalmouse> i'm trying to get my own questions answered too :/
[11:21] <optikalmouse> like, why they only have SVN 1.3 not 1.4
[11:21] <lehaid> i mean ubuntu :)
[11:21] <elsebasbe> optikalmouse: the errormesssage gave me no hits
[11:21] <zspada15> my pcspkr is blacklisted in modprobe.d but why do i still have to rmmod it to shut of the beep every time i restart my computer?
[11:21] <Borat> hey guys, how do i change the scrreen resolution in GNOME? i click on the screen resolution button, but it doesnt show 1280x 1024, only 1024x768....
[11:21] <wceoscar> my sound mixer doesnt work... eighther mi mic!!!!!!!!!!
[11:21] <elsebasbe> but mp3lib did :)
[11:22] <erUSUL> !fixres | Borat
[11:22] <ubotu> Borat: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:22] <optikalmouse> wceoscar: run alsamixer from the terminal
[11:22] <optikalmouse> type M to mute/unmute audio channels
[11:23] <wceoscar> optikal, what should i do in this mixer?
[11:24] <bam_> hi. I was wondering if anyone could point me to a good firewall channel?
[11:25] <lehaid> where can i find "vmmouse" for ubuntu XORG ?
[11:25] <zspada15> !beryl
[11:25] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:25] <optikalmouse> wceoscar: look for any channels that have MM at the bottom
[11:26] <wceoscar> ok i found some
[11:26] <hou5ton> jeeeezzzzzzzz, this is nuts ...... there has to be a way to change the behavior of the Win key!??
[11:26] <optikalmouse> wceoscar: which ones?
[11:26] <lehaid> which XORG is included in ubnutu 6.06.1 ?
[11:26] <gumpa> Howdy. I'm dealing with a failed Dapper->Edgy upgrade. Did it via sources.list. dist-upgrade fails with 'too many errors'
[11:26] <wceoscar> IE958
[11:26] <fdoving> lehaid: you can check that yourself at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:26] <kr0n1x> where i can get tcl8.5-dev and tk8.5-dev without synaptic/apt? i need source packages
[11:27] <gumpa> on a Thinkpad R51
[11:27] <ethos> How would I troubleshoot SIOCGIFFLAGS devices?
[11:27] <fdoving> kr0n1x: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:27] <kr0n1x> i'm trying
[11:27] <bam_> or maybe you guys could help. I have set up a "iptables" firewall where everything is "dropped" except input on TCP port 21 and output on TCP port 21, but still I cant connect to my ftp server. Any ideas on what could be wrong?
[11:27] <kr0n1x> fdoving can u help me?
[11:27] <wceoscar> optokalmouse, the channel is IE958
[11:27] <gumpa> loading hardware drivers fails, no NIC
[11:27] <wceoscar> IEC958
[11:27] <lehaid> does ubuntu's XORG come with VMMOUSE?
[11:27] <optikalmouse> wceoscar: erm, that one shouldn't matter
[11:28] <gumpa> suggestions? is there a package i could install from an Edgy CD to restore drivers?
[11:28] <wceoscar> whats the prob then???????????
[11:28] <optikalmouse> wceoscar: does the sound work regularly?
[11:28] <optikalmouse> wceoscar: ok
[11:28] <optikalmouse> wceoscar: you have the volume control
[11:28] <Discerer> there is no package with an ircd =/
[11:29] <optikalmouse> wceoscar: right click on it and click Preferences
[11:29] <optikalmouse> select whichever device the speaker cord is plugged into
[11:29] <malt> anyone here use dd wrt for firmware on there router?
[11:29] <optikalmouse> and then choose the track Master
[11:29] <Sinistrad> bam_, you probably need port 20 open also, and also allow anything in an established or related state.
[11:29] <fdoving> kr0n1x: newest tcl in edgy is 8.4
[11:30] <gumpa> malt, what's your dd-wrt question?
[11:30] <wceoscar> ok
[11:30] <kr0n1x> also beta fdoving , i don't care
[11:30] <kr0n1x> now i've tcl8.5a5, but i need -dev package also
[11:30] <kr0n1x> exist it?
[11:30] <wceoscar> i did taht
[11:30] <bam_> I'll give port 20 a try,thx
[11:30] <Comrade_S> Discerer:  just go to the unreal website, download the package and install. its not the difficult, I configured and run unreal in 30 minutes
[11:31] <Sinistrad> bam_, are the clients able to connect to the server or do they timeout? do they timeout during a specific operation after they're connected?
[11:31] <x0x> anyone know how to change file permissions using sudo
[11:31] <malt> gumpa: i installed dd wrt and it worked, and now i seen where i could upgrade the memory on the router using dd wrt to 64 mb well i tryed the command it said, and now i can't connect to the router at all, and i'm wired to the router, i tryed the reset button no the router and nothing still
[11:31] <malt> on*
[11:32] <silly_girl22> is ubuntu dapper drake using alsa by default instead of oss?
[11:32] <lehaid> what is the program i need to run in X to check that all my mouse buttons are sending proper events ?
[11:32] <bam_> well, they get to the poing where they browser askes for a password, but after that nothing.
[11:32] <bam_> *point
[11:32] <wceoscar> what should i do?????????????????????
[11:32] <erUSUL> bam_: you need two ports for ftp 20 and 21 afaik http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html
[11:32] <erUSUL> silly_girl22: yes
[11:32] <bam_> ok
[11:32] <Comrade_S> x0x:  "chmod *** /path/to/file"
[11:32] <gumpa> malt, are you doing the 30 second reset? turn on with reset pushed, hold it for 30s
[11:32] <optikalmouse> wceoscar: and that should work?
[11:32] <optikalmouse> and i'm outta here
[11:32] <optikalmouse> cya
[11:32] <Sinistrad> bam_, opening 20 will probably help.
[11:32] <Comrade_S> x0x:  replace *** with permissions
[11:32] <malt> gumpa does this work with dd wrt?
[11:33] <malt> gumpa: you think maybe i have screwed my router up?
[11:33] <x0x> ok. e.g. ?
[11:33] <gumpa> malt, that's what I've found required after firmware changes, all settings are lost
[11:33] <gumpa> but ip address is restored, can reset
[11:33] <Comrade_S> x0x:  eg? 666? 777?
[11:33] <wceoscar> ive try almot everithing
[11:33] <salkot> Is there any way to automatically give nm-applet access to my keyring? I don't like typing in the password every boot.
[11:33] <malt> gumpa: so reset button does nothing?
[11:34] <malt> with ddwrt?
[11:34] <gumpa> malt, it does a couple things depending on the situation, the 30second usage is needed after firmware change
[11:34] <gumpa> there's another version, hold reset, power up and wait 5 seconds
[11:34] <Discerer> ok Comrade_S... but is it GOOD? don't really care if it's easy to install, just want it to be fast, have nice modding features etc
[11:35] <malt> Dude i just tryed a command i went by on a tutorial to put ram to 16mb, and router rebooted, and now i can't connect to router at all, can't even ping 192.168.1.1
[11:35] <x0x> Comrade_S, i mean sudo chmod whattotype /media/sda1
[11:35] <tryxter> hi everyone
[11:35] <tryxter> whats the best mp3 player
[11:35] <tryxter> for ubuntu edgy?
[11:35] <Comrade_S> Discerer:  yes, its good, I tihnk its the most popular one too
[11:35] <Discerer> ok nice
[11:36] <malt> gumpa: you think i might have perm messed up my router?
[11:36] <Sinistrad> x0x, man chmod.  It depends on what permissions you want to change. (e.g.: to disable writing for everyone: chmod -w /some/file )
[11:36] <Discerer> I looked up IRCD-hybrid and UnrealIRCd and unreal has a much geekier webpage so I think I'll go with that
[11:36] <x0x> oo
[11:36] <Discerer> thanks for the help Comrade_S
[11:36] <gumpa> malt, so you have done the 30s reset?
[11:36] <x0x> hwhw
[11:36] <eloquence_> sup everybody
[11:36] <x0x> heheh
[11:36] <Lamego> Discerer, also is much more bugged :)
[11:36] <x0x> forgot the parameter
[11:36] <Comrade_S> Discerer:  if you need help with it, just ask me, I am the maintianer of peekko and I run the peekko irc server
[11:37] <Discerer> Lamego hm?
[11:37] <Discerer> kk comr
[11:37] <gumpa> malt, there are several more things to try to salvage the router,
[11:37] <Lamego> Discerer, unreal is know to be the most featured ircd, but also the one having more bugs :)
[11:37] <malt> gumpa: know any?
[11:37] <gumpa> i don't know them off-hand, the last one involves opening and shorting pins
[11:37] <bam_> :( I still get the same results, even when both port 20 and 21 are open both in and out. Any other suggestions?
[11:37] <gumpa> malt, gotta get at the dd-wrt website
[11:38] <Sinistrad> bam_, do you have any other services that work?
[11:38] <gumpa> a problem if the router is bricked :-\
[11:38] <Discerer> hehe ok Lamego... but I guess if you only use the core features you should be ok right? :)
[11:38] <malt> there is nothing i can do from my pc to the router gumpa i can't even connect to the router at all, i'm on a old router now
[11:38] <Lamego> Discerer, i think so
[11:38] <Sinistrad> bam_, also note that the chains are checked in order (from top to bottom), so if you have something dropping packets before it gets to your allow rule, they'll get dropped.
[11:39] <gumpa> malt, do you have physical access?
[11:39] <_Fa|CoNe_> Hey There
[11:39] <m0dY> is there a way to control things when doing apt-get update and it hangs with a certain step
[11:39] <Sinistrad> bam_, additionally, you probably need to have a rule that accepts anything in an ESTABLISHED or RELATED state.
[11:39] <bam_> I have a couple of other services that work fine. Webmin on port 11000, ssh, gnump3d on port 4444. All work great.
[11:39] <m0dY> it hangs in this "99% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (146.137.96.15)"
[11:39] <xen> I'm having a lot of static and audio artifacts while on Edgy...anyone got any advice?  I couldn't find anything on UbuntuForums
[11:39] <malt> gumpa: yeah i can kick it :P
[11:39] <gumpa> malt, what router is it?
[11:39] <malt> its a linksys wrt54g v5
[11:39] <Sinistrad> bam_, consider using a command-line ftp client in PASV mode for your test...
[11:40] <eloquence_> moo
[11:40] <eloquence_> muu
[11:40] <eloquence_> mew
[11:40] <IndyGUnFreak> anyone else having trouble installing from the repositories today?
[11:40] <gumpa> malt, that's what I've been working with I don't know about ram issues, just dd-wrt version updating
[11:40] <salkot> IndyGUnFreak, it sounds like m0dy is
[11:40] <m0dY> is there a way to control things when doing apt-get update and it hangs with a certain step, it hangs in this "99% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (146.137.96.15)"
[11:40] <m0dY> * Marsmensch has joined #ubuntu
[11:40] <peder_> How can I see whats running in port 110?
[11:41] <Comrade_S> IndyGUnFreak:  I heard the US servers are down
[11:41] <IndyGUnFreak> i'm just not connecting for some reason, at least i know its just not me.
[11:41] <IndyGUnFreak> ok, it scool.
[11:41] <bam_> I'm sitting on Ubuntu 6.06. Could I maybe use the native ftp service on ubuntu?
[11:41] <eloquence_> IndyGUnFreak: i am installing my kernel headers as we speak
[11:41] <malt> gumpa: its not a ram issue now its a issue to try and get the router back working ;/ a reset issue now
[11:41] <eloquence_> but i am on dial up so i dunno everything is prob for me
[11:41] <IndyGUnFreak> hmm, i tried to install acid rip, and it tried to connect and just completely stalled.
[11:41] <Marsmensch> m0dY: ?
[11:41] <drucer> Interesting, I wonder if Mark Shuttleworth knows that other project - Nexenta (that is Solaris project) is using Ubuntu software repositories.
[11:41] <gumpa> malt, again, you've done the 30s reset ...
[11:41] <IndyGUnFreak> tried through automatix2, same prob... stalled as it attempted to connect to us servers
[11:42] <malt> gumpa let me try again brb in 5 min
[11:42] <Comrade_S> m0dY:  I heard the US servers is down, so just "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and remove the us from us.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:42] <Sinistrad> bam_, I think you misunderstood -- for your client tests, use the comand-line "ftp" command...after you enter your username/password (if it actually connects and gives you a prompt of some kind) type in "PASV" and see if you can do file transfers that way
[11:42] <m0dY> Comrade_S, mmm.. i c
[11:43] <blakkinferno> !beryl
[11:43] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:43] <tonyyarusso> drucer: I'm sure someone's mentioned it
[11:43] <Comrade_S> m0dY:  dont forget to run "sudo apt-get update" after you edit the sources.list
[11:43] <m0dY> where could i get a bunch of mirrors to put so incase some are down ?!
[11:44] <bam_> oh, the way I have been trying to connect is via Opera and firefox by the address "ftp://user@address". Then I get a promt for a password for the user and then .....nothing.
[11:44] <Sinistrad> bam_, which is why you should use the command-line client...you'll probably get something better than nothing (at least, an error message)
[11:44] <IndyGUnFreak> comrad, will that work, just removing the US?
[11:44] <Comrade_S> m0dY:  I have no idea but I am guessing the mirros are us.archive.ubuntu.com   eu.archive.ubuntu.com archive.ubuntu.com
[11:45] <bam_> ok, I will give it a try.
[11:45] <grndslm> anybody here use ubuntu on an ASUS laptop??
[11:45] <m0dY> okay
[11:45] <m0dY> thanks Comrade_S
[11:45] <Comrade_S> m0dY:  np
[11:45] <rukuartic> Does anyone know if VFAT uses journaling?
[11:46] <Sinistrad> rukuartic, it does not.
[11:46] <rukuartic> Sinistrad: Wohoo! Is there any way it could be activated, or is it just not a feature?
[11:46] <Sinistrad> rukuartic, just not a feature.
[11:46] <rukuartic> Sinistrad: I know it is in ext3, is it enabled in Eft by default?
[11:47] <blakkinferno> When it says how to install beryl at http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?t=51, what do they mean "Sign it with"?
[11:47] <Sinistrad> rukuartic, VFAT doesn't support journaling.  ext3 does (and if your filesystems are ext3, they have a journal...otherwise they're ext2)
[11:47] <m0dY> Comrade_S, one more thing, what if i want apt-get to do move to other mirror if it hangs with some certain mirror
[11:47] <LinXway> I have a printer issue mabye some one can help me with...I have a hp t65 all in one printer when I installed it under gnome it all went fine the printer add recognized it and it worked...but for some reason I cannot get kde to diplay in the printer add section a list of hp printer it will only show 4 laser printer in the list and what has me confused is I goto printer system settings click on add printer the wizard pops up I click 
[11:47] <LinXway> ceJet_T_Series?device=/dev/parport0 so I am thinking it recognized the printer but then i click next and then it asks for mfg so I click on the hp tab and it only shows the 4 laser printers as choices ???can some one explain to me why KDE cannot do what gnome can do?
[11:47] <blakkinferno> kitche: hey, u on?
[11:48] <blakkinferno> kitche: Hey, im back hehe.
[11:48] <m0dY> i now have 2 mirror places in my sources.list
[11:48] <blakkinferno> When it says how to install beryl at http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?t=51, what do they mean "Sign it with"?
[11:48] <grndslm> anybody here use ubuntu on an ASUS laptop??
[11:48] <jhall> I have general question... what could cause a socket to not be established (via root)? I can establish one on 127.0.0.1 but not my actual ip address
[11:49] <Sinistrad> rukuartic, if you want a journaled filesystem that's accessible by windows servers, use NTFS.
[11:49] <Comrade_S> m0dY:  you just have to edit your sources.list and change that entry to the next mirror. The servers are rarely down(never seen them down ever) so its just a one itme thing
[11:49] <rukuartic> Sinistrad: Naw I don't want a journaling filesystem.
[11:49] <Sinistrad> rukuartic, then what're you asking about journals for :)
[11:50] <malt> gumpa: tryed it and no luck, the router is not even listening to me, it was showing ethernet ports in use. when i had them both unpluged, and it still showing them in use
[11:50] <rukuartic> Sinistrad: I'm not the biggest fan. Just got a USB drive and was wondering about it.
[11:50] <LADoctor> hi what is the difference between ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, and xubuntu
[11:50] <Sinistrad> rukuartic, yeah -- journaling is not possible with vfat, then.
[11:50] <m0dY> Comrade_S, okay
[11:50] <varsendaggr> ak whenever i move firefox around my google video stops
[11:50] <m0dY> but i thought apt was a bit smarter =(
[11:50] <malt> gumpa: any other ideas?
[11:51] <finalbeta_> blakkinferno, It just means that you add a key on your PC for the repository you will be using. It's telling ubuntu that the repository holds packages you trust( simple way of putting it)
[11:51] <bam_> Sinistrad: Your were totally right, but everything works great without the -p (passive) option on the ftp. I get connected and can see all the home area. What could be wrong? Is it the browsers faults or what?
[11:51] <Sinistrad> bam_, did you test a file transfer on the command-line?
[11:51] <varsendaggr> any ideas on how to fix this?      it will play for 1 second at a time unless i relaod the whole video...
[11:52] <bam_> no, :-|, let me try that.
[11:52] <Discerer> Comrade_S; the installation asks if I want to install as a hub or as a leaf, but offers no explanation. What does it mean?
[11:52] <Sinistrad> bam_, (I assume that you're testing command-line and browser on the same client system)
[11:53] <nikin> agains all waht i said befora about edgy, i hail it for working Debian Menu under windowmaker
[11:54] <mattsg> can someone help me? I'm following the guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811 but there's no rescue mode, and more importantly no /etc/makeinitramfs
[11:54] <bam_> yes, I have now tested file transfer and it works on the command-line. Got the whole fil without any errors....
[11:54] <Sinistrad> bam_, then it ought to work with opera :)
[11:55] <Comrade_S> Discerer: just chhose hub(that option is for big networks, leaf means usually, you are connecting to a bigg servera leaf/mirror to a bigger server. hub means you are the bigger server or only server)
[11:55] <Sinistrad> bam_, does "lsmod|grep ftp" (on the server) show anything?
[11:55] <Sinistrad> bam_, there is an ip_conntrack_ftp module that I've heard should be loaded when doing ftp firewalling stuff...
[11:55] <steve12__> hey peeps
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[11:56] <milaks> Hi. While in slackware it works perfectly, in Kubuntu when I try to debug some simple c++ program in Eclipse I get:  No registers, Stopped due to shared library event, Stopped due to shared library event. Does anyone know how to solve this please (and yes, I've been in #eclipse channel but it seems noone is alive there)?
[11:56] <steve12__> :(
[11:56] <steve12__> guys
[11:56] <steve12__> KIDA DOCK DOESNT WORK
[11:56] <steve12__> I SEEEEEEEEEE black thing come up and thats it
[11:56] <steve12__> :(
[11:56] <steve12__> wat the heck do I do?
[11:56] <Jassossovinik> steve12__, have you got xgl/beryl or similar installed?
[11:56] <steve12__> No i do not
[11:56] <steve12__> how do I/
[11:56] <LjL> steve12__: don't shout
[11:56] <Jassossovinik> (assuming you mean kiba dock)
[11:57] <steve12__> cant find package xgl
[11:57] <blakkinferno> finalbeta: thanks
[11:57] <Jassossovinik> steve12__, kiba-dock requires it
[11:57] <steve12__> Well how i install
[11:57] <blakkinferno> finalbeta: One more question... howcome when i try to edit sources.list it says i dont have permission?
[11:57] <james> is anyone here using tsclient to connect to VNC machines?  the problem I'm having is that the scroll bars don't work (when scrolling around a remote desktop which has higher res than the client, the scrollbars get stuck)
[11:57] <blakkinferno> finalbeta: Im the only account on this.
[11:57] <Sinistrad> bam_, but really, if it's working with the command-line client, opera should work.
[11:57] <james> is this a known bug?  any way to fix it?
[11:57] <steve12__> Jassossovinik: ..
[11:57] <Discerer> ok thanks a lot Comrade_S... can't believe they didn't explain that somehwere :p
[11:57] <Jassossovinik> !xgl
[11:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:57] <bam_> Sinistrad: I have to go, but thx for the help. Thanks alot. :)
[11:58] <Jassossovinik> !berylk
[11:58] <Jassossovinik> !beryl
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about berylk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:58] <Hoag> Hey. Is it possible to choose the title of a program as you load it? I.E, The title of Winee is "C:\blahblahblah". Is there something I can add to the command to choose my own?
[11:58] <bam_> I will keep on testing a little later.
[11:58] <Comrade_S> Discerer:  they have an explanation. check the dosc directory or check their website
[11:58] <Sinistrad> james, are they the weird kind of scrollbars that scroll different directions when you press the left mouse button vs. the right mouse button?
[11:58] <Windy> Oo
[11:58] <blakkinferno> Howcome i cannot edit sources.list? I am the only account on this ubuntu, but it says i do not have permission.
[11:58] <Windy> blakkinferno:
[11:58] <LjL> Ubotu, tell blakkinferno about sudo | blakkinferno, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:58] <blakkinferno> How do i open it? Help is appreciated.
[11:58] <Windy> open up terminal
[11:58] <Windy> type
[11:58] <Windy> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:58] <blakkinferno> thanks
[11:58] <Windy> you need to do it as root/super user
[11:59] <LjL> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  actually
[11:59] <blakkinferno> i thought it was sudo, but i wasnt sure the open text command
[11:59] <Windy> gedit is just a text editor
[11:59] <blakkinferno> oh what to gk in front of sudo do?
[11:59] <blakkinferno> is it sudo or gksudo?
[11:59] <blakkinferno> o.o
[11:59] <Windy> hmm some say gksudo
[11:59] <Windy> i've always just done sudo
[11:59] <LjL> blakkinferno: read the page ubotu gave you - it explains it
[11:59] <Windy> there's probably a reason to it somewhere
[11:59] <blakkinferno> okay, so ill just use sudo. ANd ill read it, LjL
[11:59] <blakkinferno> thanks
[11:59] <LjL> Windy: yes, sudo doesn't always work with GUI programs
[11:59] <Windy> i think gksudo is more secure or something
[11:59] <Sinistrad> gksudo will graphically prompt for a password (and probably does some other environmental things related to the X environment)
[11:59] <james> Sinistrad: yes thanks - i see what you mean!
[12:00] <james> is that by design?  seems like a pretty crazy implementation :)
[12:00] <blakkinferno> okay, ill use gksudo then
[12:00] <Sinistrad> james, it is...
[12:00] <mcphail> Windy: don't use sudo with graphical apps. It can mess up permissions on important files
[12:00] <james> excellent, thanks a lot for the help
[12:00] <amattas> Is there a fix for the Powernowd problems with various dell's, I've seen lots of forums and such but no definitive answer
[12:00] <Windy> ah, good thing i found that out BEFORE i tried it with graphical apps
[12:00] <Sinistrad> james, Scrollbars like that are part of some commonly-used library (lesstif?) so you'll run into them quite often
[12:00] <Windy> on the bright side, most graphical apps i've got don't need me to hop into terminal
[12:01] <james> cool, good to know