[12:01] <treepio> Can someone help me with a basuc (real basic) system with upstart?
[12:11] <treepio> I cant seem to find the example files "The requested URL /download/example-jobs.tar.gz was not found on this server." where can I find those ?
[12:12] <AlexExtreme> it's example-jobs-2.tar.gz
[12:12] <treepio> AlexExtreme: thank you, I will try that
[12:16] <treepio> AlexExtreme: perfect, thank you.
[07:09] <Keybuk> evening
[07:10] <_ion> That.
[07:11] <Keybuk> that?
[07:11] <_ion> Yes, evening. :-)
[07:11] <Keybuk> heh
[07:12] <yankees26> that was genius
[07:12] <yankees26> :p
[07:13] <theCore> is it just me or upstart haven't been updated for a while?
[07:13] <theCore> is it done?
[07:13] <theCore> :P
[07:14] <AlexExtreme> no, there's just a lack of coding :p
[07:14] <theCore> ah
[07:14] <AlexExtreme> and yay, i broke gnome-session!
[07:14] <AlexExtreme> neither the panel nor metacity came up :P
[07:14] <yankees26> nice job alex
[07:14] <_ion> thecore: There's been a lot of planning, see the wiki at the upstart website.
[07:15] <theCore> oh, there's a wiki now? nice
[07:16] <theCore> _ion, thanks for the info
[07:16] <yankees26> sorry to report i wont be using upstart in LFS guys 'cause i've become too lazy to do LFS :P and my package manager is also dead in that case :P
[07:16] <AlexExtreme> I got bored of LFS :P
[07:16] <AlexExtreme> I never get past about 5 packages of BLFS :)
[07:17] <yankees26> heh, i didnt even start
[07:17] <yankees26> and my previous attempts never got pasted binutils :P
[07:18] <Keybuk> theCore: as Johan said, mostly been planning out the new stuff for 0.3
[07:18] <Keybuk> and been distracted by UDS and then the Canonical All Hands, and getting feisty open
[07:18] <Keybuk> next week is probably my first full week on upstart again :)
[07:19] <Keybuk> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/JobSerialisation
[07:19] <Keybuk> ^ new sexyness :p
[07:19] <AlexExtreme> nooo
[07:19] <AlexExtreme> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/SplashIntegration
[07:19] <AlexExtreme> ^ that's sexyness! :p
[07:19] <theCore> sweet
[07:20] <Keybuk> SI: that was originally what logd was going to do -- subscribe to job notifications from upstart and send stuff to usplash
[07:20] <Keybuk> never did that though
[07:20] <theCore> Keybuk, I got a question
[07:21] <Keybuk> theCore: what is your question?
[07:21] <AlexExtreme> brb
[07:21] <theCore> is the intended behaviour for upstart to send the output of the jobs to the "active" console?  
[07:22] <Keybuk> if you have "console output", yes
[07:22] <Keybuk> it just sends it to /dev/console
[07:22] <Keybuk> which is the active console
[07:22] <theCore> personally, I find this quite annoying
[07:22] <AlexExtreme> the default is to be logged though
[07:23] <Keybuk> right, the default is to send it to a daemon that knows better how to do with it
[07:23] <Keybuk> if you wanted the messages in a file, or on a particular VT, or sent to a daemon or serial port, etc. you could do that with the daemon
[07:24] <theCore> would I need to edit all the jobs, or I could set that in the upstart conf (if there's one) 
[07:24] <theCore> ?
[07:26] <_ion> Sigh, i don't seem to get a freaking Hello World done.
[07:27] <Keybuk> theCore: it's the default to send it to the daemon
[07:28] <_ion> Today i thought i'd write an upstart job parser (with support for complex-event-config and emits stanzas, as in the specifications) in ruby and then make it output a graphviz dot file, but just couldn't concentrate.
[07:33] <theCore> does logd only write the job's output to /var/log/boot?
[07:33] <_ion> Currently yes.
[07:33] <theCore> ok, that's what thought