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Paladinehello :)02:05
Paladinecan anyone tell me if there is anything in edubuntu that requires opengl 2?02:05
cafuego_don't think so02:13
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crimsunthe kernel.02:35
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cafuego_that just requires libxml, not opengl2 :-P02:36
crimsun:p02:37
Paladinewas just curious cos I am building an edubuntu box for my son and missus02:39
Paladinebut it will only take graphics upto opengl 1.402:39
Paladine(old athlon xp system)02:39
Paladineso I just wanted to make sure I didn't have to upgrade the whole system including mainboard02:40
Paladineso this lot should run edubuntu with no problems then? athlon xp 1800, 512MB SDRAM, 16x DVDRW, 256MB FX5500 PCI Graphics, 80GB WD IDE HDD, 360W ASUS Silent PSU and Silverstone LC10 HTPC case :)02:44
Laser_awayyep, that's almost exactly what I have at home02:48
Paladinek :) cheap box then with the exception of the case :)02:48
PaladineI have everything already apart from the case, hdd, graphics and psu :)02:49
Paladinemy son is not even 12 months old yet, but I am sure he will enjoy all the edubuntu stuff02:50
Paladineand my missus is computer illiterate, so maybe she will learn something too02:50
Paladineand hopefully now, she will stop messing with my kit :)02:51
cafuego_Paladine: at worst, some new games might require it (but unlikely)03:01
cafuego_Paladine: the worst you can throw at it from a Linux point of view would be Google Earth or SecondLife, and they both work fine wotj ogl 1.403:01
PaladineI am looking forward to giving this a go03:01
Paladinemy missus is dyslexic too so I am hoping I can find or develop some software to help her with her dyslexia03:02
cafuego_Paladine: I run it on an athlonxp 2000+ laptop with 512Mb just fine03:02
Paladineplus it won't have a monitor, it will be going straight out to the tv, which is a more familiar environment for her03:03
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cafuego_so it'll run at 800x600 tops?03:04
cafuego_or so you have one of those fancy widescreen HD things?03:04
Paladinewell 16:9 so the whatever the 16:9 equivalent is03:04
Paladinebut not HD, just regular crt03:04
cafuego_well03:05
cafuego_320x180 on my ipod ;-)03:05
PaladineI believe I need to set the DPI to 100 as well for optimised tv output03:05
Paladinefirst time I have setup a pc specifically for use with a tv03:06
cafuego_the pixels on a tv are FAR larger then on a computer screen03:06
cafuego_PAL or NTSC?03:06
PaladinePAL03:06
cafuego_720x57603:06
Paladineyeah thats what I figured03:06
Paladinewell no isn't 720x576 4:3 aspect ratio?03:07
PaladineI have mythtv running in 720x576 on my desktop here and it is 4:303:08
Paladine768x576 I -think-03:10
Paladinebut checking now03:10
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Paladineooo there is vga-scart converters now03:13
Paladinewhich will give better control and otput than svideo03:13
cafuego_nice03:14
cafuego_hmm03:15
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achandrahowdy guys. Im trying to install edubuntu on G4 (ppc) and get the white screen of death on the install. Can someone help out?11:09
ograsee the first screen, there is a bootoption listed to avoid that11:12
ogra(before you boot from the CD)11:13
achandraogra: yes I tried with install video=ofonly and it white screens, with the expert mode, the monitor goes into "sleep" mode or appears to have no connection to the system at all.11:23
achandrathis is with the 6.10 version11:23
RichEdachandra ... do you get two white ASCII squares on a blank screen at around 50-60% install progress ?11:48
RichEdif so, it may be the video drive not loading from text mode on install to to video mode ... try leaving the installation to continue ... I had keyboard lock-up and screen as described, but 20-30 mins later, my CD ejected, and on reboot, all was 100% okay.11:49
cbx33hey ogra RichEd11:54
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achandraRichEd: Hi, nope... it white screens almost immediately after the install command is given12:01
achandraRichEd: even worse when in expert mode it point blank goes into "monitor will go into sleep mode in 5 seconds"12:01
achandraweird..12:02
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achandraHi, This is very strange...but the stock...dapper 6.06 when going into live mode...works fine.. so im perplexed here..12:18
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ograachandra, usplash changed a lot between dapper/edgy ...12:23
ograits likely an usplash issue with the framebuffer driver12:23
ogradid you look in launchad if someone has filed a bug (and probably has a workaround) ?12:24
achandraactually I tried to google like heck..but didnt see anything...my query was based on two things12:25
achandraubuntu edgy on G4 and edubuntu install G4 how to12:26
achandraand powerpc as well..12:26
achandravery little there12:26
ograi tested the CD before release on an ibook G4 with ati card, worked fine ...12:26
ograsome users reported distorted bootscreens, but thats about as much as know ...12:27
ograthe white screen should usually be solved with the ofonly parameter12:27
achandrak..well. I will see "how far i get with the 6.06 release" and move on from there...I appreciate the insight :)12:36
cbx33any kerberos users here?12:44
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juliuxhey jsgotangco01:31
jsgotangcohey juliux how are you doing?01:32
juliuxjsgotangco,  i am fine, and you?01:32
juliuxjsgotangco, it's christmas time ;)01:32
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jsgotangcohehehe yeah we just had our christmas tree at home setup yesterday and today at work, they already raised a lot of decors for the holidays as well01:36
juliuxjsgotangco, i have no christmas tree at home01:40
juliuxbut there is a lot of christmas stuff in the city01:41
juliuxjsgotangco, but we have here +10 that is very warm for december01:42
jsgotangcohmmm01:42
jsgotangcowhere is this??01:42
juliuxdresden/germany01:42
juliuxnormaly we have snow in december01:42
jsgotangcowell global warming does wonders to the weather01:43
juliuxjap01:44
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RichEdhi willvdl ... you there ?03:08
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bddebianHeya03:51
Kamping_Kaiserhi mate03:52
bddebianHeya Kamping_Kaiser03:53
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bddebianNah03:53
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coz_apokryphos, i see that you are also on edubuntu channel04:22
apokryphosyup04:23
coz_apokryphos, you use edubuntu/04:23
apokryphosI have04:23
coz_apokryphos, nice.. did you like it?04:24
apokryphosit was pretty decent, yup.04:24
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stgraberhi06:02
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rockprincesshello!07:05
LaserJockhi rockprincess07:08
rockprincesshi LaserJock!07:08
rockprincessdoes anyone know where i can get the green chalkboard edubuntu background?07:09
LaserJockhmm, it's on Dapper07:10
rockprincessis it on edgy as well?07:10
LaserJockI don't think so07:11
rockprincess:(07:11
rockprincessi'm on edgy07:11
LaserJockgimme a sec and I'll have it for you07:12
rockprincessthank you!07:12
LaserJockdoh, grabbed the wrong one, just one more minuter07:16
rockprincessheheh ;)07:16
LaserJockhttp://www.laserjock.us/ubuntu/edubuntu_chalkboard.png07:18
rockprincessthank you Laserjock, you're a sweetheart! xxx07:18
LaserJockno problem07:19
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rockprincesswhy was the GNOME window manager chosen for edubuntu?07:52
LaserJockwell ...07:54
LaserJockit's what the developers of Edubuntu chose07:55
LaserJockI really don't know the historical reasons07:55
rockprincessI see....07:56
LaserJockogra would probably  know07:56
rockprincessI for myself prefer the KDE Desktop, but I think I will get used to it.....07:56
LaserJockyeah07:56
LaserJockbut we really have to pick one07:57
LaserJockas we don't have room to ship both07:57
stgraberMaybe simply because the classical Ubuntu uses gnome and the goal of Edubuntu wasn't to propose another desktop environment (I don't know where the Kubuntu development was when the Desktop Environment was choosen for Edubuntu)07:58
LaserJockyeah, I think that's part of it07:59
LaserJockI don't think Kubuntu was nearly to the level it is now when Edubuntu was started07:59
LaserJockso not having to maintain a KDE desktop was a definite plus08:01
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rockprincessahh I see, thanks for the answers ;))))08:07
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Dheeraj_khow to unrar rar file? if it is password protected?08:30
BurgworkDheeraj_k: you need to have unrar-nonfree installed08:34
Burgworkwith that, the archive manager will handle all but the password protected ones08:34
Dheeraj_ki tried to unrar from terminal08:35
Burgworkyou need unrar-nonfree, not just unrar08:35
Dheeraj_koh i just downloaded it08:36
Dheeraj_klet me try08:36
Dheeraj_kfinally i did it thanx :)08:40
Burgworkno worries08:51
cbx33ahhh08:52
cbx33I reember now I thought it was rar we linuxians couldn't uncompress08:53
cbx33but it's stuff it isn't it08:53
Dheeraj_kwhich is the best pdf doc maker for linux?08:54
cbx33open office makes a pretty good job08:55
Dheeraj_ksame as acrobat08:55
harrypopofscribus / Ooo08:55
Dheeraj_kor pdf editor08:55
harrypopofevince08:55
Dheeraj_kbut if pdf file is  big than? may be around 10mb08:56
Dheeraj_ki am sure it will hangup openoffice08:56
Dheeraj_kand does open office support editing of pdf file?08:57
Dheeraj_kany good replacement of adobe acrobat?08:58
harrypopofuse Xpdf or evince09:02
Burgworkthere is nothing at allows editing of pdf files09:03
Burgworkhowever, you can turn it into a ps and then edit that09:03
Dheeraj_kthere should be some alternative09:04
Dheeraj_kbecause i am able to edit pdf file in windows using acrobat09:04
Dheeraj_kand xpdf is just a pdf viewer09:04
Burgworkare you talking editing or forms?09:04
Dheeraj_kediting existing pdf file09:05
Dheeraj_klike removing or adding text in a existing pdf file09:05
Burgworknot possible currently09:06
Dheeraj_k!pdf09:07
ubotupdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)09:07
Dheeraj_ki guess i found something interesting http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/06/061220909:10
Dheeraj_k!firefox09:12
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins09:12
harrypopofmozilla-acroread, great thank you09:13
rockprincessi think kword can edit pdf files.....09:15
rockprincessthe latest koffice was released just a few days ago....09:15
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nixternalhola compadres10:34
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