[02:05] <Paladine> hello :)
[02:05] <Paladine> can anyone tell me if there is anything in edubuntu that requires opengl 2?
[02:13] <cafuego_> don't think so
[02:35] <crimsun> the kernel.
[02:36] <cafuego_> that just requires libxml, not opengl2 :-P
[02:37] <crimsun> :p
[02:39] <Paladine> was just curious cos I am building an edubuntu box for my son and missus
[02:39] <Paladine> but it will only take graphics upto opengl 1.4
[02:39] <Paladine> (old athlon xp system)
[02:40] <Paladine> so I just wanted to make sure I didn't have to upgrade the whole system including mainboard
[02:44] <Paladine> so this lot should run edubuntu with no problems then? athlon xp 1800, 512MB SDRAM, 16x DVDRW, 256MB FX5500 PCI Graphics, 80GB WD IDE HDD, 360W ASUS Silent PSU and Silverstone LC10 HTPC case :)
[02:48] <Laser_away> yep, that's almost exactly what I have at home
[02:48] <Paladine> k :) cheap box then with the exception of the case :)
[02:49] <Paladine> I have everything already apart from the case, hdd, graphics and psu :)
[02:50] <Paladine> my son is not even 12 months old yet, but I am sure he will enjoy all the edubuntu stuff
[02:50] <Paladine> and my missus is computer illiterate, so maybe she will learn something too
[02:51] <Paladine> and hopefully now, she will stop messing with my kit :)
[03:01] <cafuego_> Paladine: at worst, some new games might require it (but unlikely)
[03:01] <cafuego_> Paladine: the worst you can throw at it from a Linux point of view would be Google Earth or SecondLife, and they both work fine wotj ogl 1.4
[03:01] <Paladine> I am looking forward to giving this a go
[03:02] <Paladine> my missus is dyslexic too so I am hoping I can find or develop some software to help her with her dyslexia
[03:02] <cafuego_> Paladine: I run it on an athlonxp 2000+ laptop with 512Mb just fine
[03:03] <Paladine> plus it won't have a monitor, it will be going straight out to the tv, which is a more familiar environment for her
[03:04] <cafuego_> so it'll run at 800x600 tops?
[03:04] <cafuego_> or so you have one of those fancy widescreen HD things?
[03:04] <Paladine> well 16:9 so the whatever the 16:9 equivalent is
[03:04] <Paladine> but not HD, just regular crt
[03:05] <cafuego_> well
[03:05] <cafuego_> 320x180 on my ipod ;-)
[03:05] <Paladine> I believe I need to set the DPI to 100 as well for optimised tv output
[03:06] <Paladine> first time I have setup a pc specifically for use with a tv
[03:06] <cafuego_> the pixels on a tv are FAR larger then on a computer screen
[03:06] <cafuego_> PAL or NTSC?
[03:06] <Paladine> PAL
[03:06] <cafuego_> 720x576
[03:06] <Paladine> yeah thats what I figured
[03:07] <Paladine> well no isn't 720x576 4:3 aspect ratio?
[03:08] <Paladine> I have mythtv running in 720x576 on my desktop here and it is 4:3
[03:10] <Paladine> 768x576 I -think-
[03:10] <Paladine> but checking now
[03:13] <Paladine> ooo there is vga-scart converters now
[03:13] <Paladine> which will give better control and otput than svideo
[03:14] <cafuego_> nice
[03:15] <cafuego_> hmm
[11:09] <achandra> howdy guys. Im trying to install edubuntu on G4 (ppc) and get the white screen of death on the install. Can someone help out?
[11:12] <ogra> see the first screen, there is a bootoption listed to avoid that
[11:13] <ogra> (before you boot from the CD)
[11:23] <achandra> ogra: yes I tried with install video=ofonly and it white screens, with the expert mode, the monitor goes into "sleep" mode or appears to have no connection to the system at all.
[11:23] <achandra> this is with the 6.10 version
[11:48] <RichEd> achandra ... do you get two white ASCII squares on a blank screen at around 50-60% install progress ?
[11:49] <RichEd> if so, it may be the video drive not loading from text mode on install to to video mode ... try leaving the installation to continue ... I had keyboard lock-up and screen as described, but 20-30 mins later, my CD ejected, and on reboot, all was 100% okay.
[11:54] <cbx33> hey ogra RichEd
[12:01] <achandra> RichEd: Hi, nope... it white screens almost immediately after the install command is given
[12:01] <achandra> RichEd: even worse when in expert mode it point blank goes into "monitor will go into sleep mode in 5 seconds"
[12:02] <achandra> weird..
[12:18] <achandra> Hi, This is very strange...but the stock...dapper 6.06 when going into live mode...works fine.. so im perplexed here..
[12:23] <ogra> achandra, usplash changed a lot between dapper/edgy ...
[12:23] <ogra> its likely an usplash issue with the framebuffer driver
[12:24] <ogra> did you look in launchad if someone has filed a bug (and probably has a workaround) ?
[12:25] <achandra> actually I tried to google like heck..but didnt see anything...my query was based on two things
[12:26] <achandra> ubuntu edgy on G4 and edubuntu install G4 how to
[12:26] <achandra> and powerpc as well..
[12:26] <achandra> very little there
[12:26] <ogra> i tested the CD before release on an ibook G4 with ati card, worked fine ...
[12:27] <ogra> some users reported distorted bootscreens, but thats about as much as know ...
[12:27] <ogra> the white screen should usually be solved with the ofonly parameter
[12:36] <achandra> k..well. I will see "how far i get with the 6.06 release" and move on from there...I appreciate the insight :)
[12:44] <cbx33> any kerberos users here?
[01:31] <juliux> hey jsgotangco
[01:32] <jsgotangco> hey juliux how are you doing?
[01:32] <juliux> jsgotangco,  i am fine, and you?
[01:32] <juliux> jsgotangco, it's christmas time ;)
[01:36] <jsgotangco> hehehe yeah we just had our christmas tree at home setup yesterday and today at work, they already raised a lot of decors for the holidays as well
[01:40] <juliux> jsgotangco, i have no christmas tree at home
[01:41] <juliux> but there is a lot of christmas stuff in the city
[01:42] <juliux> jsgotangco, but we have here +10 that is very warm for december
[01:42] <jsgotangco> hmmm
[01:42] <jsgotangco> where is this??
[01:42] <juliux> dresden/germany
[01:42] <juliux> normaly we have snow in december
[01:43] <jsgotangco> well global warming does wonders to the weather
[01:44] <juliux> jap
[03:08] <RichEd> hi willvdl ... you there ?
[03:51] <bddebian> Heya
[03:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi mate
[03:53] <bddebian> Heya Kamping_Kaiser
[03:53] <bddebian> Nah
[04:22] <coz_> apokryphos, i see that you are also on edubuntu channel
[04:23] <apokryphos> yup
[04:23] <coz_> apokryphos, you use edubuntu/
[04:23] <apokryphos> I have
[04:24] <coz_> apokryphos, nice.. did you like it?
[04:24] <apokryphos> it was pretty decent, yup.
[06:02] <stgraber> hi
[07:05] <rockprincess> hello!
[07:08] <LaserJock> hi rockprincess
[07:08] <rockprincess> hi LaserJock!
[07:09] <rockprincess> does anyone know where i can get the green chalkboard edubuntu background?
[07:10] <LaserJock> hmm, it's on Dapper
[07:10] <rockprincess> is it on edgy as well?
[07:11] <LaserJock> I don't think so
[07:11] <rockprincess> :(
[07:11] <rockprincess> i'm on edgy
[07:12] <LaserJock> gimme a sec and I'll have it for you
[07:12] <rockprincess> thank you!
[07:16] <LaserJock> doh, grabbed the wrong one, just one more minuter
[07:16] <rockprincess> heheh ;)
[07:18] <LaserJock> http://www.laserjock.us/ubuntu/edubuntu_chalkboard.png
[07:18] <rockprincess> thank you Laserjock, you're a sweetheart! xxx
[07:19] <LaserJock> no problem
[07:52] <rockprincess> why was the GNOME window manager chosen for edubuntu?
[07:54] <LaserJock> well ...
[07:55] <LaserJock> it's what the developers of Edubuntu chose
[07:55] <LaserJock> I really don't know the historical reasons
[07:56] <rockprincess> I see....
[07:56] <LaserJock> ogra would probably  know
[07:56] <rockprincess> I for myself prefer the KDE Desktop, but I think I will get used to it.....
[07:56] <LaserJock> yeah
[07:57] <LaserJock> but we really have to pick one
[07:57] <LaserJock> as we don't have room to ship both
[07:58] <stgraber> Maybe simply because the classical Ubuntu uses gnome and the goal of Edubuntu wasn't to propose another desktop environment (I don't know where the Kubuntu development was when the Desktop Environment was choosen for Edubuntu)
[07:59] <LaserJock> yeah, I think that's part of it
[07:59] <LaserJock> I don't think Kubuntu was nearly to the level it is now when Edubuntu was started
[08:01] <LaserJock> so not having to maintain a KDE desktop was a definite plus
[08:07] <rockprincess> ahh I see, thanks for the answers ;))))
[08:30] <Dheeraj_k> how to unrar rar file? if it is password protected?
[08:34] <Burgwork> Dheeraj_k: you need to have unrar-nonfree installed
[08:34] <Burgwork> with that, the archive manager will handle all but the password protected ones
[08:35] <Dheeraj_k> i tried to unrar from terminal
[08:35] <Burgwork> you need unrar-nonfree, not just unrar
[08:36] <Dheeraj_k> oh i just downloaded it
[08:36] <Dheeraj_k> let me try
[08:40] <Dheeraj_k> finally i did it thanx :)
[08:51] <Burgwork> no worries
[08:52] <cbx33> ahhh
[08:53] <cbx33> I reember now I thought it was rar we linuxians couldn't uncompress
[08:53] <cbx33> but it's stuff it isn't it
[08:54] <Dheeraj_k> which is the best pdf doc maker for linux?
[08:55] <cbx33> open office makes a pretty good job
[08:55] <Dheeraj_k> same as acrobat
[08:55] <harrypopof> scribus / Ooo
[08:55] <Dheeraj_k> or pdf editor
[08:55] <harrypopof> evince
[08:56] <Dheeraj_k> but if pdf file is  big than? may be around 10mb
[08:56] <Dheeraj_k> i am sure it will hangup openoffice
[08:57] <Dheeraj_k> and does open office support editing of pdf file?
[08:58] <Dheeraj_k> any good replacement of adobe acrobat?
[09:02] <harrypopof> use Xpdf or evince
[09:03] <Burgwork> there is nothing at allows editing of pdf files
[09:03] <Burgwork> however, you can turn it into a ps and then edit that
[09:04] <Dheeraj_k> there should be some alternative
[09:04] <Dheeraj_k> because i am able to edit pdf file in windows using acrobat
[09:04] <Dheeraj_k> and xpdf is just a pdf viewer
[09:04] <Burgwork> are you talking editing or forms?
[09:05] <Dheeraj_k> editing existing pdf file
[09:05] <Dheeraj_k> like removing or adding text in a existing pdf file
[09:06] <Burgwork> not possible currently
[09:07] <Dheeraj_k> !pdf
[09:07] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[09:10] <Dheeraj_k> i guess i found something interesting http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/06/0612209
[09:12] <Dheeraj_k> !firefox
[09:12] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[09:13] <harrypopof> mozilla-acroread, great thank you
[09:15] <rockprincess> i think kword can edit pdf files.....
[09:15] <rockprincess> the latest koffice was released just a few days ago....
[10:34] <nixternal> hola compadres