=== lnxkde [n=vlos@206.248.110.144] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.194.179] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ryanakca [i=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:06] is launchpad appropriate for edgy krita (koffice 1.6.1) bugs? [02:06] bug #71711 makes me wonder [02:06] Malone bug 71711 in koffice "Krita in Edgy doen't open gifs" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71711 [02:06] but thats not the bug [02:07] http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=11660.0;topicseen [02:09] claydoh: if it's something that Kubuntu did to affect Krita, it should go in LP. if it's a general Krita problem, bugs.kde.org. that's afaik [02:10] if unsure, you can either file it in LP and wait for it to be pushed upstream if it's a general Krita bug, or file in both (which I did recently with Adept...) [02:10] ty I'll look over there first [02:11] of course, if you have time, you could also search to check if it hasn't been filed before :) === jdong saves above quote as a rebuttal come next backports archive session [02:14] above being quite a bit above [02:14] "'m not too keen on doing SRU if they're not obviously necessary, it's quite time consuming" [02:16] Jucato: i don't see it on LP, but the existing bug made me question the correct place to try [02:16] yeah... I find reporting KDE bugs in Kubuntu to be quite tricky... [02:20] Jucato: I'm rather fond of bug 62699 [02:20] Malone bug 62699 in kdar "[edgy] wrong dependencies in kdar" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62699 [02:20] :) [02:20] that's a clear example of a Kubuntu-specific bug. :) [02:20] :D [02:21] it's a lovely one, too [02:21] ahhh bugzilla just plain does not rock [02:22] heh :) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato thinks so too... but promises of improving Malone temporarily satisfies him [02:23] (for now) [02:27] lotusleaf: that's a example of "upstream doesnt build with later versions of related apps" bug [02:28] Hobbsee: :) [02:28] :P [02:28] Hobbsee: did I mention I like burritos? [02:28] no? [02:28] ok, well, I do. (= [02:29] gnight guys [02:29] night pinheiro! :) [02:30] btw http://pinheiro-kde.blogspot.com/2006/12/mery-xmas-from-oxygen.html [02:30] night [02:30] night [02:31] oh... (unrelated topic)... us.archive.ubuntu.com seem to be having some problems [02:31] it is, yes [02:31] poke it with the stick of doom or something. === Hobbsee pets her stick [02:33] ah so it's a confirmed problem... thanks [02:36] doom! that reminds me === Jucato pokes jdong for fun :) === jdong reserves his next 4 hours to beating Doom Legacy again === nixternal jumps out of the window for having an anti-coc though [02:36] t [02:36] man it was funny, but oh so bad [02:37] :) [02:37] mind sharing it? hehe :P [02:37] no, it could definitely offend [02:37] lol [02:38] jdong: blood multiplayer rocks [02:38] is it any worse than the "Kim Jong-Il uses KDE in Ubuntu" quote I found on the forums? [02:38] nixternal: btw, was the mockup for khelpcenter approved? I really like it. I was also wondering if I could use that sidebar instead and make the normal navigation panel disappear. :) [02:39] no approval on that, that was just an idea [02:40] you aren't replacing that side bar w/o hacking KHelpCenter big time [02:40] yeah i liked it too if you mean that page :) [02:40] KHelpCenter is hopefully getting chucked in KDE4, well at least that is what I was told from one of the KDE devs today [02:41] nixternal: by replacing, I meant hiding the navigation panel. I thought that your sidebar was something that won't change [02:42] this page is what i was talking about http://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org/stuff/doc/ktbh/ [02:42] don't know yet..that mock-up could take longer than 7.04 dev time [02:42] gnomefreak: yep that one :) [02:42] well, the kde devs said to take the html stuff and create a small c++ viewer implemented with khtml [02:43] shoot, konqi does everything as it is, why not have it do help as well, that would be the easiest ;) [02:43] nixternal: so it becomes an app instead of a site? [02:43] it's very nice. and since the Search function in khelpcenter is barely useful in Kubuntu, I have no use for the navigation panel... [02:44] example have a menu item for it like the spec on xubuntu help center and the ubuntu one that was out there for a while === robotgeek [i=venkat@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:44] ya gnomefreak [02:44] or have it show on boot :) [02:46] at the same time, we really don't want to do something massive int he terms of a help setup w/o going upstream with it [02:46] and with that, it would need big time kde support, and since they have an idea in the making for kde4.. [02:46] guess you could fill in the blank there [02:47] they have plans for khelpcenter in kde4? [02:47] tossing it [02:47] ha! :) [02:47] hopefully going with a better suited Topic Based Help setup [02:47] (good) [02:48] if you dont want to go upstream make it a kubuntu help[ center instead of a kde help center [02:48] which is what the ubuntu doc team is currently working on [02:48] might be more benifits with kubuntu help center instead of kde anyway [02:49] well, that isn't up to me..but would definitely be a Riddell type of thing [02:49] i think working close with the KDE guys is the best way though [02:49] ++ [02:49] try to remain as close to upstream with the DE as much as possible [02:49] +1 [02:49] :) [02:49] i agree but we dont really ship kde. i mean we do but most users other than power users grab -desktop [02:50] everyone could benefit from a new help center [02:50] when they grab -desktop they are getting the kit-and-kaboodle (wth is kit-and-kaboodle anyways?) [02:50] although a better search function in the help center is also be needed [02:50] or make one for kde and add things to it to add to kubuntu for kubuntu [02:50] heh, KHelpCenter search is horrid, unless you want to search man pages [02:51] i hate man pages [02:51] :P [02:51] gnomefreak: that is what would work, have a KDE help center that we could add to more than just documentation [02:51] we don't install htdig by default, so the Applications index could not be built [02:51] i can read them fine but i have to try to explain it to new users [02:51] as it stands, you really can't add or implement with KHelpCenter w/o massively changing it [02:51] correct === Parkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-146.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:51] sad... but true [02:51] nixternal: but its a great outline/mock up [02:52] and in order for it to read our documentation, it is nothing but nasty hacks [02:52] thanks gnomefreak, a lot of people have actually expressed interest in it, i.e., the kde devs for one [02:52] nice job nixternal! :) [02:52] that was pretty cool, and actually they were like turn that in to C++, and I chuckled [02:52] i was like you turn it into C++ [02:53] lol [02:53] obviously my contributions are mainly documentation for a reason ;) [02:53] or... have someone help you do it :) [02:53] im looking for bugs in a C app and i cant remember C nor CC++ [02:53] -c [02:53] however, i have always enjoyed tech-writing for some odd reason [02:53] i can't even remember basic, let alone c [02:54] brb.. quick breakfast [02:54] ya, i need dinner myself [02:54] :) [02:54] at least some food [02:54] i remember if else void(sort of) return() but thats about it oh and ifelse :) [02:54] anyway nixternal, I really like that help center idea and mockup :) [02:54] for (;;) [02:54] :P [02:54] thanks, maybe we can hack it together eventually [02:54] heh [02:54] heh... there's a reason I'm not into packaging yet [02:55] same reason you're contributions are mainly docs :P [02:55] ok I'm really hungry now brb [02:55] i do packaging too now..i can multitask [02:55] ;) [02:55] gah. murphy's law is very accurate! === Hobbsee knows bits of C++ [02:56] hehe [02:56] Hobbsee: i am the exact same [02:57] i know enough where i can read it and understand some of it, but don't ask me to hack it [02:57] lol [02:57] well, i can hack it, but don't expect it to work [02:58] got my first tux issue today...haven't gotten a chance to read it [02:59] http://www.spidertools.com/ubuntu_training.php [02:59] nixternal: when I hack code, it usually gives developers (1) a hysterical amount of entertainment or (2) a heart attack [02:59] neat, ubuntu server course [02:59] jdong: same here [02:59] oh wait (3) anger and resentment towards $me [03:00] nixternal: same here. well, first from the subscription, anyway [03:00] ya, where is my magazine [03:00] they are late, or this is early [03:00] nixternal: it's in a 20MB PDF in that huge hairy URL :) [03:00] the hyperlink in the email? [03:00] hehe [03:01] i download it into my TUX folder, and then just read it later, but i don't like the "presentation" mode they try to force on ya [03:01] likewise, it's irritating [03:03] you can hit escape [03:03] hehe [03:03] really? ;p [03:04] :P [03:04] to make it go back to normal [03:04] ya, i hit escape to get out of it, and it went to normal earlier, i was like, ahhhhh [03:04] but when i did it, i was expecting it to totally close out === jpetso_ [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso_ is now known as jpetso === jjesse [i=user@69-87-139-98.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=vlos@206.248.110.144] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:15] cool, errors updating koffice [04:16] lotusleaf: which koffice? [04:17] hmm, yesterday i had errors installing kde-core on dapper, possibly due to security and kde-3.5.5, i am not sure [04:17] oh, darn it, it's not an error after all =( [04:17] Hobbsee: latest posted at top on kubuntu.org [04:18] I thought it was an error but one package hadn't installed because of a time out or something [04:18] where is the us.archives server located? it needs its arse kicked [04:18] been down for a day now [04:18] nixternal: yeah, lot of questions about that a while ago [04:18] tried to make them switch temporarily to some other server [04:21] lotusleaf: can you pastebin them please? [04:21] lotusleaf: heh [04:22] Hobbsee: ya, I was about to, but sadly, my excitement was rained upon by my own stupidity ;) [04:22] heh [04:22] no errors, it works! [04:22] happy dance ensues [04:22] yay! === lnxkde [n=vlos@206.248.110.144] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:44] why are we doing th ehappy dance? [04:49] jjesse: why not? :) [04:49] jjesse: using kubuntu should be reason enough! :) [04:51] grin sure is, but Hobbsee was doing it for a special reason? === Hobbsee doesnt dance! [04:51] jjesse: because lotusleaf got koffice to work, with no errors [04:52] yay [04:52] now you're doing the dance, too. :) [04:52] boy i hate working at a place that blocks irc :( i miss chatting w/ all my kubuntu friends [04:53] jjesse: have you tried CGI-IRC? [04:53] no i haven't, how/were do i go for it? [04:53] http://cgiirc.sourceforge.net/ [04:53] err.. hold on... [04:54] sorry... I need to get the proper link... darn... [04:54] I had that link a few weeks ago :( [04:54] Jucato : if you find it mind if you email it to me? [04:55] jjesse: once I find it again, I will [04:59] Jucato: thanks [04:59] sorry half asleep here :) [05:00] jjesse: this is the one: http://www.ircatwork.com/ [05:00] seems to be also based on CGI:IRC :) [05:01] cool have to try that at work [05:02] :) === Hobbsee upgrades polyester to the latest version [05:21] oh? [05:21] what version is it now? [05:23] 1.0 rc1 [05:24] ah === lengau [n=lengau@c-68-53-53-39.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:43] doen [05:43] *done [05:44] awaiting approval === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:51] Hobbsee: what version number did you pick? [05:51] ajmitch: Version: 0.99+1.0rc1-0ubuntu1 [05:52] ugly but it works [05:52] true. the original was similar === ajmitch just saw other packages today that were 1.0.0.rc13-1 [05:52] rather annoying [05:54] ocuh [05:54] yes === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lengau [n=lengau@c-68-53-53-39.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === shnee [n=CurtyD13@cpe-65-24-168-255.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-68-178.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm57.omega18.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ [n=cyril@AMarseille-256-1-166-88.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.228.249] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-68-178.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh [11:41] <\sh> moins [12:06] hi \sh baby [12:07] hi Riddell. how was your vacation? [12:08] groovy [12:08] nice :) [12:08] now you're recharged and ready to work again. hehehe :) [12:09] straight into testing Herd CDs [12:09] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20061204/ if anyone wants to join in === marseillai [n=cyril@AMarseille-256-1-136-143.w90-10.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:10] oh cool it was finally fixed [12:10] btw, Riddell, you're an editor in the Dot right? [12:11] I amm yes [12:11] what was fixed? [12:11] latest article has some link errors [12:11] I've no idea if anything has been fixed, I've not tested the CDs yet [12:11] ah that, no herd 1 cd's a few days ago [12:12] commit digest story? [12:12] yep [12:12] http://dot.kde.org/1165180284/ [12:12] what needs fixed? [12:13] link for KGeography and Kross [12:14] KGeography link points to the KVocTrain page, and Kross link points to a non-existing page [12:15] fixed, thanks [12:15] glad to help :) [12:16] if you feel like helping more there's a story to submit :) [12:18] heh. I think I need to take a bit of a break from writing this week. :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:31] morning Hobbsee [12:31] Hobbsee: should we have a meeting sometime this week? [12:31] we've not had a kubuntu meeting in ages === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:37] hi Hobbsee [12:39] hey Riddell! i'm away until saturday this week, sorry [12:40] family funeral :( [12:41] Riddell: however, that does sound like a good idea, if we've got stuff to discuss [12:42] Riddell: unless you wanted to call one in the next... <14 hours or so === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@86-39-5-238.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:47] I don't have anything specific to discuss === Tonio_ [n=tonio@157.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180110221.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:49] hey ;) [12:49] Riddell: ping ? === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@86-39-5-238.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:51] Tonio_! [12:52] hey Tonio_! [12:53] hi Riddell, Hobbsee [12:53] Riddell: how was your vacation ? [12:53] had time to find Luka ? === lnxkde [n=vlos@206.248.110.144] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:54] didn't get to find luka, but found a bunch of other Ubuntu people === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.51.150.71] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:56] Riddell: hehe cool :) [12:56] Tonio_: did you need something? I'm about to reboot to install Herd CDs [12:56] Riddell: now back to work.... [12:57] Riddell: no issues concerning herd, but I want to talk you about the bunch of qt issues.... [12:57] Riddell: it is not possible to build any python based package, since checkpyqt fails [12:58] that's why guidance isn't installed at the moment, and that's due to your latest pyqt upload [12:58] Riddell: have you remove the gcc patch from qt? [12:58] Riddell: even using the existing guidance packages, all modules are failing === Hobbsee reverted back to the edgy pyqt and pykde packages, so she could get guidance. [12:59] Riddell: and second point, special keys are broken on feisty, which is due to qt-X11-free package.... I'm trying to fix this [12:59] ^e^e^e e^i -> works on gtk apps but not on qt ones [12:59] freeflying_: no, I'll do that after Herd CDs are out [01:00] if pykde is broken does this mean ubiquity will be broken? [01:00] Riddell: concerning checkpyqt, I haven't been able to find out where is that script.... [01:00] Riddell: probably yes, unfortunately [01:00] Riddell: but the issue is probably pyqt, not pykde [01:02] Riddell: concerning qt-x11-free I'll try to sync with debian, this is the way I fixed the same error on edgy [01:02] we should miss a patch probably [01:07] what do you mean by special keys? === el [n=konversa@port-83-236-238-37.static.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:08] ^e -> [01:08] they don't work in all qt apps.... [01:08] no issues for english keyboard of course :) [01:08] but they work in non-qt apps? [01:09] Riddell: yes, that's why I think about the qt-x11-free package [01:09] Riddell: we had the same issue during the edgy cycle and I fixed this by synching with debian on that package [01:09] I'll try the same fix today [01:10] probably just rebuild might also fix eventually... [01:10] no issues in firefox for example [01:10] OOo works too [01:11] I have to go for an our (interview for a job) [01:11] brb [01:11] good luck [01:11] Tonio_: Can you give me a list of icons that are superflouus in powermanager, and those that are missing? [01:12] I think it's broken right now? [01:12] wb Riddell [01:12] hi sebas [01:13] How was the week off? [01:18] sebas: out of curiousity, when will we get a new upstream for kde-guidance? it'd be cool to get the original guidance-p-m message to hide, and the display module to load again, at least [01:20] sebas: nice, thanks [01:20] sebas: just a minutes [01:20] sebas: can you receive dcc ? [01:20] sebas: all "80%" icons are missing === Riddell ponders over https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/python-qt3/+bug/73912 [01:20] Malone bug 73912 in python-qt3 "[Feisty] qt module is busted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [01:21] Riddell: what are you pondering? [01:21] sebas: my computer is to be repared and I forgot to make a backup of this package.... I'll send you the missing icons tomorrow or wednesday [01:22] Hobbsee: how the heck to fix it! [01:22] Riddell: heh. well, you could revert to edgy version if you wanted, as a temporary work around for the cds. but that's not a permanent fix [01:23] Tonio_: Thanks! [01:23] sebas: you're welcome [01:24] leaving now ! [01:24] Hobbsee: I don't have any way of doing that [01:24] Riddell: oh yeah, good point === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:31] <\sh> Riddell: I'll have a quick look on it [01:34] \sh: some conversation in #ubuntu-devel === WorkRoey is now known as Roey === raphink [n=raphink@dhcp-126-a.struyck.hhs.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54955D74.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:49] <\sh> Riddell: that's really strange...who is setting the default values for our build envs? [01:49] <\sh> and where [01:50] \sh: it must be sip [01:50] sip has a makefile generator thingy [01:50] and I think sip gets it from qmake [01:50] hi kwwii [01:53] hmmm [01:53] is there a new format for .ssh/known_hosts? [01:53] the name of the machines doesn't appear anymore in the beginning of the lines [01:53] <\sh> Riddell: but sip doesn't define any -fvisibility=hidden [01:53] but it's used for autocompletion with ssh [01:54] raphink: md5 hashing host names has been turned on for some time [01:55] raphink: the worry is that someone might break into your machine then be able to see all the other machines that might use the same key/password [01:55] hmmm [01:55] well [01:55] <\sh> Riddell: sorry..it declares a qmake spec file where -fvisibility-inlines-hidden is set [01:55] .ssh is supposed to be 700 [01:55] and people who use ssh are supposed to know what they do [01:56] and turn off password login and root login [01:56] and use keys [01:56] I mean [01:56] I get the point [01:56] but I don't really agree [01:56] ;) [01:56] on the other hand [01:57] if we began with putting a 750 or 700 on the home directories, it might be a good start :) [01:57] aswell as trying to get people to stop recommending to enter a root password [01:57] ;) [01:57] \sh: I'm going to just compile qt without visibility, let me know if you work out how to change it from just sip [01:58] I think security is about educating people when it comes to such things :) [01:58] raphink: 700 doesn't make any difference if I manage to brute force guess your password and log in as you [01:58] which isn't hard to do in most cases [01:58] Riddell: if people began to stop using the root account and use keys for ssh login [01:59] that wouldn't happen [01:59] there are safe network technologies that are not hard to use [01:59] I can't use keys for login everywhere, I need to be able to get to my e-mail from random machines [01:59] hmmm [01:59] yes, like hashing the hostnames of machines you've logged in to :) [02:00] well about the key, you could keep it in your pocket [02:00] even if someone found the key, found out that there's a hidden public key on it, probably encrypted with a gpg key on the same usb key [02:00] and found out the code of both the gpg and ssh key [02:01] ... [02:01] well [02:01] anyway [02:01] lol [02:01] mindterm doesn't accept ssh keys as far as I know [02:01] ok for hashing the hostnames... but then the ssh bash_completion will have to be redone [02:02] I don't know mindterm... [02:02] let's see [02:02] a freeware java ssh client [02:02] hmm... [02:03] I don't know that I adapt my coding to java freeware :) [02:04] is there another way we can get a list of machines to ssh to? [02:04] cause when you work as a sysadmin, hostname completion with ssh is something you really enjoy when there's a problem on your platform at 4AM [02:04] and several of my colleagues have complained of this lack in Ubuntu [02:05] I can't think of any other way, I just keep a bunch of bash aliases [02:05] not having this, I end up with bookmarks in konsole [02:05] which is worse [02:06] restricting security by removing info often leads people to write the info somewhere else [02:06] if you try to give them a new password for each service every week [02:06] they're going to write all the passwords on post-its on their screen [02:06] which is worse than given them one good password [02:07] I guess these are just different approaches [02:10] Riddell: howdy...how was your vacation? [02:10] groovy thanks [02:11] who is the person to speak to about adept? [02:11] gnomefreak: mornfall [02:11] but he's not here [02:11] isnt he upstream? [02:12] yes [02:12] ok if i see him ill ping him about it [02:12] about what? [02:12] if its gonna stay we need to add features like complete removal and dist-upgrade [02:19] gnomefreak: adept uses dist-upgrade when you use Full Upgrade, afaik (if that's what you meant by dist-upgrade) [02:19] gnomefreak: complete removal == purge [02:19] dist-upgrade from like dapper > edgy [02:19] Hobbsee: its not the same i was told [02:19] it doesnt remove depends [02:20] it does. but in a rather "weird" way [02:20] like synaptic does for complete removal [02:20] autoremove [02:21] it wouldn't be hard to add, but I don't know how [02:21] oh right [02:21] however I don't know if mornfall is wanting to work on adept at the moment [02:21] :( [02:22] gnomefreak: adept's weird behavior regarding purging is that it only allows you to mark one package to be purged. If other packages will be marked to be removed because of that one package, you can't mark them to be purged as well, unlike in Synaptic [02:23] that's not weird, it's how apt has always done it [02:23] it just doesn't support autoremove yet [02:23] ah... how does Synaptic do it? [02:24] i would have to look for the bug on it but the person wants an aptitude like feature and someone lastweek said its not the same [02:25] synaptic passes the "please use autoremove" option to apt, it wouldn't be hard to do it in adept for someone who knew libept and adept code [02:26] ah it was fdovin^g and he said it doesnt autoremove packages and that is what the user is looking for [02:26] ah... [02:26] https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/74045 [02:26] Malone bug 74045 in adept "WISHLIST: aptitude-like behaviour for Adept" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.51.150.71] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nuku [n=j@e179031047.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:58] freeflying: ok, qt uploaded without gcc visibility patch === paddy [n=irc@HSI-KBW-085-216-087-214.hsi.kabelbw.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:08] <\sh> Riddell: the easiest thing is to remove those flags from the specs of sip for qmail [03:08] <\sh> s/qmail/qmake/ [03:09] <\sh> I'll prepare a patch for sip === jjesse [i=keefejoh@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-8829c04a4848f5b2] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:10] good morning :) [03:10] morning jjesse [03:10] hey jjesse! [03:11] jjesse: you found a way to log in from work - yay! [03:11] hiya Hobbsee using that ircatwork that Jucato told me about === Hobbsee notes she should pack [03:11] jjesse: yes, i can see from your hostname :) [03:11] hi jjesse! :) [03:11] working nicely? [03:11] grin thanks [03:11] yes it is [03:11] hope it doesn't get you into trouble at work :D [03:11] me too, i won't spend too much time, i'll login and off :) [03:14] jjesse: i wonder if screen works [03:14] screen? [03:15]