[01:07] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm looking for documentation on Ktorrent. iirc, it was written for and sent upstream
[01:16] <nixternal> we don't do that kind of documentation, but yes it is upstream somewhere, it is up to the KTorrent guys to build it and get it into KDE
[01:16] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: i know but i think you said someone wrote it
[01:17] <Admiral_Chicago> need help with documentation?
[01:17] <nixternal> we always need help with documentation
[01:18] <Admiral_Chicago> i figured as much. i noticed "switching from windows to linux" is WIP, it seems interesting could I help with that
[01:18] <Admiral_Chicago> btw, did you get my PM?
[01:19] <nixternal> what do you think?
[01:19] <nixternal> ;p
[01:19] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: don't look at those old pages, but we have planned a Switching to Kubuntu one that hasn't even started, there is one already for Ubuntu, which I am sure could probably use some editing maybe. i haven't looked at it much
[01:20] <nixternal> one guy pretty much wrote it
[01:20] <Admiral_Chicago> well nixternal feel free to email me with documentation stuff if you get overloaded with it
[01:20] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm Kubuntu sounds interesting, KDE is the best
[01:20] <nixternal> shhh
[01:20] <nixternal> no DE wars needed
[01:20] <nixternal> ya, since there are only 3 of us in here
[01:20] <nixternal> 4
[01:21] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i figured out why my bug was happening
[03:52] <jjesse> evening
[04:08] <nixternal> evening
[04:36] <jjesse> hello
[09:01] <mdke> good morning
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> dang
[09:03] <Madpilot> mdke, morning
[09:04] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, when the Europeans are saying 'Good morning', you're up way too late!
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: I know.
[09:04] <Mithrandir> morning, mdke
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> The sad part is I'm nowhere near going to bed - I don't think I will until tomorrow night.
[09:15] <Burgundavia> indeed
[10:42] <Madpilot> Um... someone just translated the first couple paragraphs of UserDocumentation into Polish...
[10:42] <Madpilot> at least I think it's Polish...
[03:13] <mihakriket> I am new to helping with the wiki documents. I have finished editing the 'commandline howto' document. I was wondering if anybody to take a look at the document for me a provided me some feedback. Again this is my first wiki I have updated. TIA
[03:16] <crimsun> reading.
[03:18] <crimsun> nice work!
[03:19] <crimsun> I'll touch up some minor grammatical corrections as I go through.
[03:35] <mihakriket> crimsun: thank you for the feedback. I was thinking on editing the advanced commandline document as it also appears in the CategoryCleanup
[03:35] <crimsun> feel free
[03:35] <crimsun> It'll take me about 25 more minutes to run through this one.
[03:36] <dgold> is lilo used as the defaul boot-manager in any version of ubuntu anymore? The install guide refers solely to it, and only mentions grub as an afterthought
[03:38] <mihakriket> crimsun: I will wait until you are completed, so I can see what mistakes I made and avoid making the same ones again.
[03:49] <crimsun> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommandlineHowto is completed.
[03:49] <crimsun> dgold: for certain configurations, lilo is required.
[03:50] <crimsun> dgold: off the top of my head, installations that use LVM require lilo.
[03:55] <glatzor> mdke: when do you plan to release new translated documentation for edgy?
[04:11] <mihakriket> crimsun: thank you for your help. I will look over the document.
[04:11] <crimsun> thank you!
[04:31] <dgold> crimsun: but it isn't the defauly mode for all alternate-installs, therefore the documentation should specify same.
[04:32] <crimsun> dgold: please correct as appropriate
[04:32] <dgold> wilko
[05:54] <dgold> is the installation guide in svn repo - unable to locate it...
[06:11] <dgold> wiki describe installguide as being under ubuntu-doc/generic , but it aitn't there
[06:39] <LaserJock> mdke: around?
[06:56] <nixternal> hola
[07:33] <LaserJock> hi nixternal, how's it going?
[08:05] <nixternal> just got a new puppy
[08:07] <LaserJock> sweet, what kind?
[08:17] <mdke> LaserJock: yes
[08:18] <mdke> dgold: no, it is maintained by the installer developer in the "installation-guide" package
[08:18] <mdke> glatzor: no plans at the moment
[08:18] <LaserJock> mdke: just wanted to say that the Open Week session seemed to go OK
[08:18] <LaserJock> I just used your stuff from the wiki and nixternal and I answered questions
[08:18] <mdke> great, nice work and thanks for doing that
[08:18] <mdke> any interest?
[08:19] <LaserJock> moderately
[08:19] <LaserJock> we had a few people that seemed like they were interested
[08:19] <LaserJock> wiki work, etc.
[08:20] <mdke> that would be good
[08:20] <LaserJock> I think there was one person interested in the forums->wiki stuff
[08:25] <mdke> nice
[08:30] <glatzor> mdke: the desktop-guide is now completely translated in German
[08:41] <nixternal> LaserJock: i have no clue what kind of dog it is. some kind of terrorist..i mean terrier
[08:42] <LaserJock> haha
[08:44] <fumbalah> Hiya
[08:58] <mdke> glatzor: cool.
[09:12] <mdke> swish
[09:13] <mdke> swish
[09:15] <mdke> Mithrandir: dangerous
[09:17] <Mithrandir> oyh, I did comment on the mailing list.  I've even gone so far as to have subscribed now. :-P
[09:19] <Burgwork> my job is killing me today
[09:19] <Mithrandir> I'm not sure what you're soliciting comments for, but I've commented on the "Developer review of docs" thread.
[09:19] <Mithrandir> Burgwork: shoot back
[09:19] <Burgwork> no, I just did
[09:20] <Burgwork> just waiting for the company president to phone me, asking me what I was saying in my email
[09:26] <mdke> Mithrandir: yeah, I saw that, that's great. I was after comments from docpeople in the topic based help and articleinfo threads. No need for you to comment on those :)
[09:29] <LaserJock> mdke: do you think we can do it in a way that still shows who maintains what?
[09:29] <LaserJock> wrt, articleinfo
[09:30] <mdke> LaserJock: yes, we can include lists of maintainers in contribute.xml
[09:30] <mdke> but if we switch, I don't think we can maintain a list of who has contributed to what (as opposed to who maintains what)
[09:30] <LaserJock> would it be possible to put that info somewhere else?
[09:31] <LaserJock> it would be nice to acknowledge contributions
[09:31] <LaserJock> or will be just have a list of contributors?
[09:31] <mdke> they would be acknowledged as contributors to "the documentation" but not linked to a particular document
[09:31] <mdke> I tend to think that's ok, but if others disagree, I don't have a problem
[09:32] <LaserJock> I think that would be ok
[09:32] <LaserJock> people often contribute to more then one doc
[09:32] <LaserJock> and I tend to see them as contibutors to the doc team
[09:33] <mdke> i think actually it has a kind of advantage
[09:33] <mdke> people are seen as part of the team
[09:33] <LaserJock> yes, I agree
[09:34] <LaserJock> it also should help with consistency
[09:37] <mdke> LaserJock: agreed. Have a play around with branches/tbh/common/C/contributors.xml and see what you think
[09:41] <mdke> I guess something like:
[09:42] <mdke> Ubuntu Documentation Team members:
[09:42] <mdke>  * Matthew East (Ubuntu documentation)
[09:42] <mdke>  * Jordan Mantha (Packaging guide)
[09:42] <mdke> Other contributors:
[09:42] <mdke>  * Joe Blogs
[09:42] <mdke> etc
[09:43] <mdke> that way we can add all the K/Ed/X guys too
[09:44] <mdke> btw, LaserJock, have you met the Edubuntu docs guy?
[09:45] <mdke> it's great that someone is on board for that
[10:15] <LaserJock> mdke: which guy?
[10:16] <LaserJock> sorry, wasn't paying attention
[10:26] <nixternal> willdvl or whatever his name is
[10:26] <nixternal> him and i have been chatting
[10:26] <LaserJock> oh yeah
[10:27] <LaserJock> I'd really like to see Edubuntu docs really rock in Feisty
[10:27] <LaserJock> even little ones
[10:27] <LaserJock> I think the Handbook was a rather large undertaking and people choked
[10:28] <LaserJock> hi jono
[10:28] <jono> hey
[10:28] <nixternal> hiya jono
[10:28] <jono> hey
[10:29] <nixternal> dude, this dog is satan
[10:29] <LaserJock> heh
[10:30] <nixternal> ya the handbook has been a tough one
[10:30] <nixternal> i know sbalenev or however you spell his name put a lot of work in on the LTSP stuff
[10:33] <LaserJock> yeah
[10:33] <LaserJock> and that's pretty cool considering he does a large part of the actual LTSP development
[10:33] <nixternal> i have been beat lately...im trying to contrib a little more here and there
[10:36] <LaserJock> yeah, we don't want you pulling a Jorge on us
[10:36] <nixternal> never
[10:36] <nixternal> if i go back to windows, permission granted on ordering my assasination
[10:36] <nixternal> if only i was so worthy ;)
[10:37] <nixternal> yay
[10:37] <LaserJock> haha
[10:37] <LaserJock> I tell you though, there's been a number of times where I've though "I don't need this crap, I'm outta here"
[10:37] <LaserJock> but I hang in there
[10:37] <nixternal> hehe
[10:38] <LaserJock> I gotta tone it down though
[10:38] <nixternal> see, with Kubuntu stuff, I never get the feeling, but it is some of the politics and at times a feeling of elite'ism (im not even going to act like I know how to spell that one) that gets me at times
[10:39] <nixternal> but i enjoy hanging out, learning new stuff, and having mdke yell at me for committing to the edgy branch, even within a week of being told the first time ;)
[10:39] <LaserJock> shesh, these kids will never learn, right mdke? ;-)
[10:40] <nixternal> hehe
[10:40] <nixternal> i think i have you all on the age side of the kid'dom
[10:40] <nixternal> not by much though
[10:40] <nixternal> so im like the older kid
[10:40] <LaserJock> yeah, that mental age thing keeps getting you :p
[10:40] <nixternal> lol
[10:40] <nixternal> 32 on the outside, 12 on the inside
[10:41] <mdke> 32? that's way old
[10:41] <nixternal> but if i remember correctly, mdke and myself have some killer HAIRdo's
[10:41] <nixternal> LaserJock: you have a hairdon't
[10:41] <nixternal> ;)
[10:42] <LaserJock> bah
[10:42] <nixternal> hahaha
[10:42] <mdke> that's libel, my hair is impeccable
[10:42] <nixternal> lol
[10:42] <nixternal> mdke brings the lawyer out in himself to save face on the hair
[10:42] <LaserJock> nixternal: I have hair ... sorta
[10:43] <nixternal> hehe