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| lotusleaf | Sundhay ain't no weason f0ur duh sl4ckin off ya j1v3 turk3y! | 01:28 |
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| Burgundavia | hey | 01:47 |
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| lotusleaf | hi | 01:59 |
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| elkbuntu | my monitor is dying :( | 08:23 |
| elkbuntu | it's less than 2 years old :( | 08:23 |
| Madpilot | not cool | 08:24 |
| elkbuntu | not at all | 08:25 |
| Burgundavia | hmm, that sucks | 08:30 |
| Burgundavia | jeromes monitor on his canonical laptop died on him | 08:31 |
| Burgundavia | and that mahcine is about the same age | 08:31 |
| Burgundavia | ok, compiz royally sucks | 08:31 |
| Burgundavia | I would embarassed to give Ubuntu to somebody if we installed compiz by default | 08:31 |
| elkbuntu | yep | 08:31 |
| elkbuntu | what's it messing with now? | 08:31 |
| Burgundavia | little minor things | 08:32 |
| Burgundavia | once and a while it just looses the window list | 08:32 |
| Burgundavia | and sometimes the highlighting on drop down lists doesn't appear | 08:32 |
| Burgundavia | plus all the confirmed bugs in LP | 08:32 |
| elkbuntu | heh | 08:33 |
| Burgundavia | seems only to happen after been left running for many hours | 08:33 |
| elkbuntu | well, at least i finally went and bought some new speakers today... so i can listen to musics now without increasing the temperature of my head by 10 degrees | 08:35 |
| Burgundavia | heh | 08:36 |
| elkbuntu | the monitor isnt completely dead yet. just 1/4 of it flickers | 08:37 |
| Burgundavia | yay! two new bugs filed | 08:40 |
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| Burgundavia | which brings my compiz total to 15 | 08:40 |
| elkbuntu | :) | 08:41 |
| elkbuntu | who other than mark is still pushing for compiz & associated crap decisions? | 08:41 |
| Burgundavia | the beryl people | 08:48 |
| Burgundavia | ah,, bloody hell, apt-get is barfing all over the placwe | 08:49 |
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| Burgundavia | hmm, appears that apt's db is corrupted | 08:50 |
| Burgundavia | ok, that is funny | 08:53 |
| Burgundavia | http://www.google.ca/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=corrupted+apt+db | 08:53 |
| Burgundavia | look at most of the hits | 08:53 |
| elkbuntu | ... wha...? | 08:54 |
| tonyyarusso | Burgundavia: I don't get it | 08:55 |
| Burgundavia | most of the hits are for rpm db corruption | 08:55 |
| elkbuntu | since when... rpm... uh... ? | 08:55 |
| Madpilot | finally got to pick up my Ubuntu posters that jenda sent - very, very cool design | 09:06 |
| elkbuntu | yeah | 09:07 |
| elkbuntu | theyre pretty awesome | 09:08 |
| Burgundavia | time to blog my weekend with compiz | 09:14 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia, a "Remind me again why we're planning on shipping these bugs by default" blogpost? ;) | 09:17 |
| Burgundavia | basically | 09:18 |
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| elkbuntu | lets see if you get a direct response from mark for this one | 09:39 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia, that was a fairly restrained blogpost - no accusations of crack-smoking by the folks who proposed Compiz-by-default ;) | 09:39 |
| Burgundavia | they are on crack, but I figured it would be more politic to point out why they are crack | 09:40 |
| Burgundavia | going to try beryl when it is packaged | 09:41 |
| elkbuntu | well written post corey :) | 09:43 |
| Burgundavia | I try | 09:44 |
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| Madpilot | later all | 10:46 |
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| jenda | 11:20 | |
| danbuch929 | jenda: care to talk about spreadubuntu? | 11:25 |
| jenda | most definitely :) | 11:25 |
| danbuch929 | I've been in conversation with the CMS developer more, and he lent me some very useful information... | 11:26 |
| jenda | such as? | 11:26 |
| danbuch929 | most of the CMS is written around Cheetah Template | 11:26 |
| danbuch929 | http://cheetahtemplate.org | 11:26 |
| danbuch929 | apt-get install python-cheetah | 11:27 |
| danbuch929 | anyone hoping to help with the branch will greatly benefit from this | 11:27 |
| danbuch929 | the developer, Amir, is also working to have his 1.0 release dpkg-ized | 11:28 |
| jenda | how that? | 11:28 |
| jenda | ah, greatzorz :) | 11:28 |
| danbuch929 | learn cheetah == learn skeletonz | 11:28 |
| danbuch929 | hopefully in the near future, it will simply be a matter of "apt-get install skeletonz" | 11:28 |
| danbuch929 | ...but on a less technical note: | 11:29 |
| danbuch929 | I wanted to restart the discussion about site construction, features, design, touchy-feely stuff | 11:30 |
| jenda | hehe | 11:31 |
| === jenda thinks | ||
| === danbuch929 thinks reciprocally | ||
| === jenda reviews the wiki... | ||
| jenda | Well, the site is intended for people who wish to help Ubuntu to spread. | 11:35 |
| jenda | It's very probable that these people aren't browsing the web for the first time, so we can expect some experience. | 11:35 |
| jenda | Come to think of it, that doesn't mean anything for the touch and feel of the site anyway ;) We still have to make it as easy to understand... so... | 11:37 |
| jenda | (/me might be thinking outloud a bit too much :) ) | 11:38 |
| danbuch929 | hehe | 11:41 |
| === danbuch929 is reviewing design spec @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/SpreadUbuntu/GraphicalDesignSpec | ||
| danbuch929 | "We have decided that we want to use the idea of Nestor Diaz's suggestion, polish it, and use Kassetra's very fine icons." | 11:43 |
| danbuch929 | is this opinion still valid? | 11:43 |
| jenda | danbuch929: not really | 11:45 |
| jenda | at the time, SU was intended also as the flashy site for new users | 11:46 |
| danbuch929 | :-) .... so will we be starting from scratch? | 11:46 |
| jenda | the one you point them to when they ask you what is Ubuntu? | 11:46 |
| danbuch929 | and we now point them to ubuntu.com ? | 11:47 |
| jenda | we always have, I guess. | 11:48 |
| jenda | We can make that flashy site some time in the future, or work on making Ubuntu.com that flashy site... | 11:49 |
| danbuch929 | excellent | 11:49 |
| jenda | although ubuntu.com is quite good as it is for the businesses to look at, so I'd be more inclined to a spread.ubuntu.com splash-screen type thing :) | 11:49 |
| danbuch929 | yes - that'd probably do it | 11:50 |
| danbuch929 | with SU, we're trying to address the DIY marketing need, so it's okay to be more familiar with the user | 11:51 |
| danbuch929 | ...less business-y, that is | 11:51 |
| jenda | yes | 11:52 |
| jenda | that's true. | 11:52 |
| danbuch929 | ...but still very accessible to the new GNU/Linux convert | 11:52 |
| danbuch929 | (like myself :-)) | 11:53 |
| jenda | The DIY part - the part of SU I'd like to focus on, and what we're mainly making progess on right now, should distribute marketing Ubuntu into the masses. | 11:53 |
| jenda | very much so. | 11:53 |
| jenda | The people shouldn't have to be technically too advanced to benefit from diy.ubuntu.com | 11:53 |
| danbuch929 | ...just trying to make Ubuntu a familiar word, for starters :-p | 11:53 |
| danbuch929 | right | 11:54 |
| jenda | "Gleefully resurrected by new wave of Ubuntu converts. Might be | 11:54 |
| jenda | permanent." | 11:54 |
| jenda | :) | 11:54 |
| === danbuch929 couldn't help himself | ||
| jenda | 11:56 | |
| danbuch929 | on the subject of the diy site: | 11:56 |
| danbuch929 | I've only gotten feedback from you, jenda :-D | 11:56 |
| jenda | hehe :) | 11:57 |
| danbuch929 | I'm sure there have been plenty of folks who have visited diy.devubuntu.com and have gotten the same knee-jerk reaction: | 11:57 |
| danbuch929 | "...but it should also have $FEATURE_INTENDED_FOR_SPREADUBUNTU.COM" | 11:58 |
| jenda | (/me remarks that he understood the current diy.devubunt.com only as a placeholder for teh future skeletonz site in its place) | 11:58 |
| danbuch929 | and I hate to pour even more energy into diy when I really want to see SpreadUbuntu up | 11:58 |
| danbuch929 | right | 11:58 |
| jenda | hehe :) | 12:06 |
| jenda | Honestly, once DIY is up, we'll be able to get the rest of SU up better, because we'll have a start... | 12:06 |
| jenda | and people pouring in... | 12:06 |
| jenda | and, BTW, I like your 'crappy sense of humor' ;) | 12:06 |
| danbuch929 | thanks :-D ... it's honed from years of cynicism and apathy | 12:07 |
| danbuch929 | ...but about getting DIY up and running... | 12:07 |
| danbuch929 | I really haven't touched the thing in two weeks, mostly because I don't know exactly what else should be added | 12:08 |
| jenda | aha | 12:08 |
| jenda | hmm | 12:08 |
| jenda | How long do you think it would take till we had a skeletonz ready to use for the purpose? | 12:09 |
| danbuch929 | meaning... there's a LOT that *could* be added... | 12:09 |
| danbuch929 | skeletonz for DIY? | 12:09 |
| danbuch929 | ...or for SU? | 12:10 |
| jenda | well... | 12:12 |
| jenda | I thought we were to use it for DIY :) | 12:12 |
| jenda | If that wasn't your plan, then I'm OK with that too o | 12:12 |
| danbuch929 | right... sorry... Do we want to CMS-ify the current diy design? or is it okay if I hold off on CMS until the full SpreadUbuntu? | 12:13 |
| jenda | perfectly ok | 12:13 |
| danbuch929 | that is: diy.devubuntu.com is based on MenZa's work | 12:13 |
| danbuch929 | and is written entirely in php | 12:13 |
| jenda | in that case, I'll start thinking what we want on diy.du.com | 12:13 |
| danbuch929 | with _no_ MySQL backend | 12:13 |
| danbuch929 | okay :-) | 12:13 |
| danbuch929 | when I said that the only feedback I got was from _you_, I left out one other person | 12:14 |
| danbuch929 | Toby Smithe sent me some feedback | 12:15 |
| danbuch929 | ...and his disappointment in the site's flexibility echoed my own reservations | 12:16 |
| danbuch929 | which should say nothing about MenZa's design - it's elegant and simple | 12:16 |
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| jenda | hehe ok :) | 12:17 |
| jenda | MenZa: we weren't discussing you at all. | 12:17 |
| jenda | Nor your work. | 12:17 |
| jenda | Nope. | 12:17 |
| danbuch929 | HA! | 12:17 |
| MenZa | lol | 12:17 |
| danbuch929 | Hi MenZa! | 12:18 |
| MenZa | I shall demand logs for the past hour | 12:18 |
| MenZa | eya :) | 12:18 |
| MenZa | Heya* | 12:18 |
| danbuch929 | and you shall have them | 12:18 |
| === danbuch929 defended your honor to the death | ||
| MenZa | XD | 12:18 |
| MenZa | Mmm, home made soup | 12:18 |
| danbuch929 | MenZa: have you any experience with Python web dev? | 12:19 |
| danbuch929 | sorry... I'll let the soup work its magic :-) | 12:20 |
| MenZa | none at all | 12:20 |
| MenZa | :) | 12:21 |
| danbuch929 | very little over here :-) ... mostly php | 12:21 |
| danbuch929 | I was wondering because... | 12:21 |
| danbuch929 | I'd like for SpreadUbuntu to be written in Python, if possible .. for the sake of a common tongue amongst Ubuntu sites | 12:22 |
| MenZa | lol | 12:23 |
| MenZa | I only do XHTML/CSS | 12:23 |
| danbuch929 | hehe ... (my first loves...) | 12:23 |
| danbuch929 | CSS is still my fave (design bg) | 12:23 |
| === jenda lets the devs take the stage | ||
| danbuch929 | I got into web programming because nobody at my workplace knew a lick about the stuff | 12:24 |
| === MenZa shudders | ||
| danbuch929 | so know I might know half a lick about it :-D | 12:25 |
| MenZa | CSS is evil | 12:25 |
| jenda | flame war flame war flame war!!! | 12:25 |
| danbuch929 | hehe | 12:25 |
| danbuch929 | anyway: I've been led into all things MarketingTeam by jenda here | 12:25 |
| MenZa | xD | 12:26 |
| MenZa | jenda: it's powerful | 12:26 |
| MenZa | but EVIL. | 12:26 |
| danbuch929 | and I gladly took your excellent work for the DIY site and mod'd it here and there | 12:26 |
| MenZa | :D | 12:26 |
| MenZa | I think I saw that mod | 12:26 |
| MenZa | very nice | 12:26 |
| jenda | MenZa: anything in your mail yet? | 12:27 |
| danbuch929 | and we're now talking about what else to add before letting it fly | 12:27 |
| danbuch929 | thanks :-) | 12:27 |
| MenZa | jenda: nowt. | 12:27 |
| MenZa | jenda: and I apologise for not having printed the buggers yet | 12:27 |
| MenZa | jenda: I imagine I'll do it today | 12:27 |
| jenda | no problem | 12:27 |
| MenZa | And ship them tomorrow | 12:27 |
| jenda | I'm out of posters to ship anyway :) | 12:27 |
| danbuch929 | jenda: that's good news, right? ;-) | 12:27 |
| MenZa | :D | 12:27 |
| jenda | good :) | 12:27 |
| jenda | A little sad, but good. | 12:27 |
| MenZa | danbuch929: well show me again | 12:27 |
| MenZa | jenda: what's happening with the A2s ;)? | 12:28 |
| jenda | MenZa: might have a printer do that commercially :) | 12:28 |
| MenZa | fantastic | 12:28 |
| jenda | met the guy at Linux Weekend. | 12:28 |
| MenZa | oh awesome | 12:28 |
| danbuch929 | MenZa: have you been? diy.devubuntu.com | 12:29 |
| MenZa | there we go | 12:30 |
| MenZa | I like those shiny boxes | 12:30 |
| danbuch929 | hehe... I'm a sucker for gradients | 12:30 |
| MenZa | waaaaaait | 12:30 |
| MenZa | do I spot a table? | 12:30 |
| danbuch929 | 'tis yours, good sir | 12:31 |
| MenZa | I did a table? | 12:31 |
| danbuch929 | and I'll gladly be rid of it, if you're amenable | 12:31 |
| MenZa | Thank you | 12:31 |
| === MenZa shudders | ||
| danbuch929 | so says the code | 12:31 |
| danbuch929 | :-D | 12:31 |
| MenZa | I don't like your menu boxes, they're too big | 12:31 |
| MenZa | reduce the feather a tad | 12:31 |
| danbuch929 | <tr>'s be gone | 12:31 |
| danbuch929 | noted :-) | 12:31 |
| MenZa | digging the highlight | 12:32 |
| === jenda loves gradients too | ||
| MenZa | (of as) | 12:32 |
| jenda | danbuch929: please remove the order form from the poster page :) no more to give. | 12:32 |
| danbuch929 | jenda: will do | 12:32 |
| MenZa | You had 1,000 printed, didn't you? | 12:33 |
| jenda | It also seems to me that the menu boxes don't really fit in with the rest of the thing, do they? | 12:33 |
| jenda | MenZa: 500 | 12:33 |
| MenZa | ah | 12:33 |
| danbuch929 | pretty much all of the design stuff was slapped together haphazardly - taken from other ubuntu sites | 12:33 |
| MenZa | :D | 12:33 |
| danbuch929 | ...I stopped tweaking after iteration(2) :-) ... figured I'd wait for more feedback | 12:34 |
| MenZa | It's great | 12:34 |
| MenZa | Well done :) | 12:34 |
| danbuch929 | thanks for laying the tracks :-) | 12:35 |
| jenda | just yesterday, I had a look at: http://devubuntu.com/ | 12:36 |
| jenda | And thought... wow, that site looks great. | 12:36 |
| === jenda points at MitchM | ||
| danbuch929 | ...looks like we can thank elkbuntu for the design | 12:37 |
| jenda | aaah | 12:37 |
| elkbuntu | hehe | 12:37 |
| danbuch929 | sorta reminds me of http://pandora.com (without the flash and ads) | 12:38 |
| MenZa | bit. | 12:38 |
| MenZa | Nice work, elkbuntu | 12:38 |
| MenZa | Not usually my style, but looks nice | 12:38 |
| MenZa | not my usual style* | 12:38 |
| jenda | I like the shaded-like border. | 12:38 |
| jenda | *shaded-3D-like | 12:39 |
| === MenZa likes SABFDL's hackergotchi | ||
| jenda | wow, that rocks :) | 12:56 |
| MenZa | it does | 12:56 |
| elkbuntu | hmm? did he change it or it still the spaceman? | 01:00 |
| MenZa | Spaceman. | 01:00 |
| elkbuntu | i was wondering about jenda's amusement.. i would have thought jenda would have seen it by now :| | 01:01 |
| jenda | elkbuntu: I did see it, many times... | 01:02 |
| jenda | ...but my memory is short :) | 01:02 |
| elkbuntu | lol | 01:02 |
| jenda | Which allows me to rejoice over things over, and over, and over again... | 01:02 |
| MenZa | xD | 01:03 |
| jenda | Yay, MenZa :) glad to see you again... | 01:03 |
| danbuch929 | hehehe .... the bliss of the amnesiac | 01:03 |
| jenda | :) | 01:03 |
| MenZa | :D | 01:03 |
| jenda | trademarks @u.c doesn't respond :/ | 01:04 |
| jenda | (regarding roughcut posters/t-shirts) | 01:04 |
| MenZa | oh they will | 01:06 |
| elkbuntu | how long ago did you ask? | 01:07 |
| MenZa | two minutes ago | 01:07 |
| MenZa | :d | 01:07 |
| MenZa | :D* | 01:07 |
| elkbuntu | well, i need to ask regarding having some ubuntu 1" buttons made for LCA | 01:09 |
| elkbuntu | s/ask/mail them/ | 01:10 |
| MenZa | http://img447.imageshack.us/img447/571/getphpma9.png | 01:10 |
| elkbuntu | i hope to all that is good in the world that whoever did that did it in a VM | 01:11 |
| MenZa | nope | 01:11 |
| MenZa | :D | 01:11 |
| elkbuntu | then they deserve what they get | 01:11 |
| MenZa | XD | 01:11 |
| MenZa | 101 extensions | 01:11 |
| elkbuntu | that would take like.. an hour to load | 01:11 |
| MenZa | pretty painful | 01:11 |
| MenZa | minutes. | 01:11 |
| MenZa | and several of them. | 01:12 |
| elkbuntu | that is YOU? | 01:12 |
| MenZa | oh no | 01:12 |
| elkbuntu | good | 01:12 |
| MenZa | XP? Firefox 1.5? | 01:12 |
| MenZa | nooo waaay | 01:12 |
| elkbuntu | i was about to book the plane ticket | 01:12 |
| MenZa | to?= | 01:12 |
| elkbuntu | whoop your ass | 01:12 |
| MenZa | XD | 01:12 |
| MenZa | you're welcome to drop by | 01:12 |
| MenZa | xD | 01:12 |
| elkbuntu | lol | 01:13 |
| jenda | elkbuntu: I asked 2 weeks ago, and again yesterday. | 01:15 |
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| danbuch929 | later, y'all - off to work :-) ... I'll bzr push and ftp revisions to DIY tomorrow morning | 01:42 |
| jenda | later :) | 01:43 |
| jenda | Guys, I need an opinion :) | 02:23 |
| jenda | Do you think 200 A2 posters @ $2/piece would sell? :) | 02:23 |
| MenZa | oh yeah | 02:24 |
| elkbuntu | i'd hit it | 02:25 |
| jenda | and if it were $3 apiece? | 02:37 |
| elkbuntu | i'd probably still hit it, but is that you covering cos or you making money | 02:40 |
| elkbuntu | s/cos/cost/ | 02:40 |
| jenda | that's the printer making money. | 02:40 |
| jenda | probably. | 02:40 |
| jenda | I'm still not sure if I should buy it from him in bulk and send myself - and make more money for Ubuntu... | 02:40 |
| jenda | ..or just let him do his thing. | 02:40 |
| jenda | He would, of course, top the price towards maximum revenue. | 02:41 |
| jenda | Whereas I gear the price towards highest number of posters out there. | 02:41 |
| elkbuntu | i wouldnt go much higher than 3/poster if you then have to cover postage, people could get them done themselves for cheaper | 02:44 |
| jenda | elkbuntu: in A2? | 02:45 |
| jenda | I doubt it. | 02:45 |
| jenda | I'm definitely not going _over_ $3, though. | 02:46 |
| jenda | the shipping will be $6 or $7, though, because this time, it would include a tube. | 02:46 |
| elkbuntu | that's what i thought. a single poster = $10 | 02:47 |
| jenda | I gotta go to the post office :) | 02:47 |
| jenda | send the last few shipments. | 02:47 |
| jenda | YES! :) | 03:04 |
| === jenda got himself a deal. | ||
| jenda | I can buy the posters at $1.60 | 03:06 |
| jenda | And the printer will be selling them as well, independently on me. | 03:06 |
| elkbuntu | cool | 03:07 |
| elkbuntu | so back to $2/poster then? | 03:07 |
| elkbuntu | or. $2.50? | 03:08 |
| jenda | depends. | 03:09 |
| jenda | If I make it $3, I'll have some serious budget to work with. | 03:09 |
| jenda | Meaning I could start doing projects that don't have to make a profit. | 03:09 |
| jenda | Not having to go by what people buy, but by what spreads Ubuntu. | 03:10 |
| elkbuntu | you should do some button badges | 03:10 |
| jenda | button badges? | 03:10 |
| elkbuntu | 1" badges | 03:10 |
| elkbuntu | sec | 03:10 |
| elkbuntu | this is one of the places im considering getting some done through for LCA http://www.custombadges.com.au/ | 03:11 |
| elkbuntu | ignore the js crap at the top | 03:11 |
| elkbuntu | so im thinking just the ubuntu logo on a white circle would rock. i've got a creative commons one i got at UDS in front of me. it's what gave me the idea | 03:12 |
| jenda | LCA? | 03:13 |
| elkbuntu | linux.conf.au | 03:13 |
| jenda | aaahh | 03:13 |
| jenda | button badges... neat. | 03:13 |
| jenda | I could get that done. | 03:14 |
| elkbuntu | yeah. i think you'll find they'll move like rockets | 03:14 |
| elkbuntu | i should have been greedy and got a couple at UDS, but i was too slow | 03:15 |
| jenda | hehe :) | 03:16 |
| jenda | elkbuntu: what's a good price on those? | 03:16 |
| jenda | I probably wouldn't be doing this, but I would give it as a tip to the printer guy. | 03:16 |
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| elkbuntu | well, i can see them being done for <$1 here, so dunno what they'd be going for over there | 03:17 |
| jenda | welcome, jono | 03:17 |
| jono | heya | 03:17 |
| jenda | elkbuntu: that seems ubeatable | 03:17 |
| elkbuntu | jenda, 10c componants, they're making their fair share | 03:18 |
| jenda | I'll have to ask about that. | 03:18 |
| jenda | And I'll have to run off for Czech History lessons... | 03:18 |
| elkbuntu | enjoy! | 03:18 |
| jenda | ...or should I, if I really don't want to? :) | 03:18 |
| elkbuntu | you have wireless there, right? | 03:19 |
| elkbuntu | compromise! | 03:19 |
| jenda | lemme check... room 306 | 03:20 |
| jenda | not sure if we do. | 03:20 |
| jenda | Don't remember :) | 03:20 |
| jenda | But it's not easy to use IRC with only 5 or 6 people in the room :) | 03:21 |
| jenda | anyway, I'm off, laters. | 03:22 |
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| jono | Burgwork, ping! | 06:28 |
| MenZa | pong, pang, peng! | 06:29 |
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| Burgwork | jono: pong | 06:57 |
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| jenda | jono, what brings you to our humble channel? | 07:06 |
| jono | jenda, just seeing what is going on | 07:06 |
| jono | I am keen to help the marketing team grow | 07:06 |
| jenda | neat ;) | 07:11 |
| jenda | jono: I sent a summary of what the team is doing to the mailing list for Christina. It might be of interest to you too (and might not, of course :) ). | 07:24 |
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