[12:13] <ubotu> kasablanca: fast and free ftp client for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0.2-1build1 (edgy), package size 160 kB, installed size 612 kB
[12:13] <velle> ooops all! this is the wrong channel, sorry!!!
[12:13] <abattoir> towyc: check if i'm here, might not be
[12:13] <towyc> cool
[12:13] <towyc> what other channels are in ubuntu irc?
[12:13] <towyc> i just know one other one for xgl
[12:14] <towyc> and that's it, is there a list somewhere?
[12:14] <abattoir> towyc: ubuntu irc, is the same as freenode
[12:14] <misael> HELPPP
[12:14] <velle> abattoir: i know the basic, trying to learn more by doing
[12:14] <misael> GODDAMHIT
[12:14] <towyc> o i meant channels, like #kubuntu-xgl
[12:14] <abattoir> towyc: so you basically are in freenode w/ access to all the channels
[12:14] <abattoir> !irc
[12:14] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[12:14] <towyc> o ic
[12:14] <abattoir> towyc: click the last link
[12:14] <towyc> cool thx -=)
[12:14] <intelikey> towyc /list   but it's very long
[12:14] <misael> i been here like for 2 hours looking for an answer
[12:14] <adarev> hwll
[12:15] <misael> i'm about too switch back to windows vista
[12:15] <intelikey> misael i wish you would
[12:15] <towyc> cool thx alot =)
[12:15] <misael> come onnn  i need   help
[12:16] <misael> ii've been here for 2 hours realy
[12:16] <intelikey> misael if you think you can threten me/us with that one you are off your rocker
[12:16] <misael> gosh
[12:16] <afm\colossus> what the fuck is kasablanca?
[12:16] <misael> !kasablanca
[12:16] <ubotu> kasablanca: fast and free ftp client for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0.2-1build1 (edgy), package size 160 kB, installed size 612 kB
[12:16] <Riddell> !language
[12:16] <intelikey> misael i just got here.  i haven't seen you ask a question yet...
[12:16] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:17] <visik7> anyone here with asus V6J ??
[12:17] <visik7> !laptop team
[12:17] <misael> well that's because i got tired of asking and no answer
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about laptop team - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <computer_> test
[12:18] <sungam> !apt > misael
[12:18] <computer_> o crap
[12:18] <intelikey> misael and though that you could "threaten with 'i'll go back to windows'"   lol
[12:18] <towync> would adept batch continue a broken download after i reconnect to internet?
[12:18] <towync> it seems stuck right now
[12:18] <misael> it wasnt a threat
[12:19] <misael> it was a comment
[12:19] <intelikey> towync probably not.
[12:19] <SupremeBeing> hey guys, I just did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade last night, and now kubuntu won't boot
[12:19] <towync> intelikey cool thx
[12:19] <dr0fnax> !edgy
[12:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[12:19] <towync> !feisty
[12:20] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is pre-alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[12:20] <SupremeBeing> !dist-upgrade
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <misael> can some one tell me  how to instal kasablanka ? i have the file. but i dont know where to put it because when in the terminal i tipe apt-get install kasabalnca it tells me that it couldnt find the package
[12:20] <velle> misael:  are you getting help from someone now, i might be able to help you if your problem is basic? im not too hardcore on ubuntu myself
[12:20] <intelikey> SupremeBeing upgrade and edgy are the same info node
[12:21] <SupremeBeing> ah
[12:21] <[GuS] > Re..
[12:21] <SupremeBeing> it's very odd tho, it won't even boot.  freezes at loading
[12:21] <sungam> misael: you need to enable the universe repository
[12:21] <misael> whats that?
[12:21] <larson9999> maybe franken can add cs onto his f-bombs for dean this time.
[12:21] <misael> universe repository
[12:21] <sungam> misael: the place where you get your packages from.
[12:21] <abattoir> !universe > misael
[12:22] <sungam> !repositories > misael
[12:22] <coreymon77> hi guys
[12:22] <coreymon77> fdoving
[12:22] <dr0fnax> SupremeBeing, I had same problem yesterday with my friend's laptop, just black screen and nothing. Probably it's wrong repositories You should use #gksu "update-manager -c"
[12:22] <intelikey> misael if for some odd reason you want to install the package you have locally rather than the one in the repos  you can use  sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[12:22] <larson9999> oops! wrong channel... i hate focus grabbing apps
[12:23] <SupremeBeing> dr0fnax: uhh, how?  I can't boot
[12:23] <coreymon77> hi guys
[12:23] <sungam> SupremeBeing: at what part of loading does it freeze?
[12:23] <towync> (='.'=)
[12:23] <towync> (0)-_-(0)
[12:23] <SupremeBeing> dr0fnax: the blue loading bar, once it finishes it freezes
[12:23] <intelikey> misael that will not grab it's dependancies tho
[12:23] <towync> !smiley
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smiley - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:24] <intelikey> towync :)
[12:24] <coreymon77> was anyone thats here now here when i asked about what network card i should get
[12:24] <intelikey> or :(
[12:24] <towync> hehe, i'm waiting for download to complete =)
[12:24] <coreymon77> and they told me a card with an atheros chipset
[12:24] <intelikey> irc common faces
[12:24] <dr0fnax> SupremeBeing, I don't know how to fix it :\ I reinstalled system and upgraded with update-manager
[12:24] <towync> and was gonna do smiley after it did =)
[12:25] <sungam> SupremeBeing: try going into Rescue mode
[12:25] <velle> shouldnt Konversation open a new tab for a private cha if I type, /msg foo_user Goodevening, ?? does the receiver get a new tab?
[12:25] <sungam> SupremeBeing: and see if there's some error when loading that, think it actually shows the modules loading instead of the splash
[12:25] <SupremeBeing> is that recovery mode?
[12:25] <intelikey> velle i would think so
[12:25] <sungam> SupremeBeing: it's one of the options in the grub bootloader menu
[12:26] <SupremeBeing> sungam: Ok, i'll try that.  then do what? update with adept instead of sudo?
[12:26] <abattoir> SupremeBeing: you upgraded from dapper-> edgy w/ just 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' ?
[12:26] <misael> intelkey whats repos?
[12:26] <intelikey> !repos
[12:26] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:26] <misael> intelkey where do the file has to be located?
[12:26] <SupremeBeing> abattoir: yes
[12:26] <intelikey> short for Repositories
[12:26] <abattoir> !upgrade | SupremeBeing
[12:27] <ubotu> SupremeBeing: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[12:27] <velle> misael: im trying to write you private messages, to help you. are you getting them?
[12:27] <abattoir> SupremeBeing: there is a bit more work to do than just dist-upgrade
[12:27] <misael> no,
[12:27] <misael> actually yes
[12:27] <misael> but when i write
[12:27] <intelikey> misael anywhere.  just add the path     sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[12:27] <misael> this anoying message comes up
[12:27] <misael> [505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[12:27] <szymon> hello
[12:28] <intelikey> misael when no path is specified the $PWD is assumed
[12:28] <velle> quite annoying that the server does not tell me that my msgs are blocked :(
[12:28] <intelikey> echo $PWD
[12:29] <intelikey> !register | velle
[12:29] <ubotu> velle: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:29] <sungam> SupremeBeing: try doing a 'apt-get -f check'
[12:29] <coreymon77> guys
[12:29] <velle> misael: sorry, i misunderstood your msg, your blocked not me, sorry about the misunderstanding
[12:29] <SupremeBeing> abattoir: sorry, missed that. what else is there to it?
[12:29] <SupremeBeing> sungam: To check the installation?
[12:29] <intelikey> !register | misael
[12:29] <ubotu> misael: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:30] <coreymon77> ive used a linksys card with a ralink chip in it for a long time now
[12:30] <coreymon77> but today im getting a new card with a atheros chipset
[12:30] <sungam> SupremeBeing: I'm not really sure if that will solve anything, but if you get into rescue mode, and there aren't any errors when loading your system shouldn't be in that bad a shape
[12:30] <coreymon77> so
[12:31] <coreymon77> in order to get the ralink card to work i used the iwconfig ra0 command
[12:31] <SupremeBeing> sungam: I got into console mode, if that's what you mean
[12:31] <sungam> SupremeBeing: yes
[12:31] <coreymon77> with this new atheros chip card
[12:31] <misael> i do not have kasablanca in my repos
[12:31] <sungam> SupremeBeing: did it give any warnings when you boot?
[12:31] <coreymon77> what would it be?
[12:31] <SupremeBeing> sungam: No, just froze
[12:31] <coreymon77> iwconfig what
[12:32] <sungam> SupremeBeing: but when you booted in rescue mode
[12:32] <intelikey> coreymon77 at0  ???
[12:32] <intelikey> coreymon77 just a guess
[12:33] <coreymon77> and i was told that cards with atheros chipsets worked right out of the box
[12:33] <coreymon77> with kubuntu
[12:33] <Dekkard> hi.. my name is mike... and im a kdeuser!
[12:33] <FlameMaster> hey guys, how do I tell kubuntu edgy that my BIOS clock doesn't have the UTC time (but local time instead)?
[12:33] <coreymon77> is that true?
[12:33] <sungam> coreymon77: they should, madwifi supports them
[12:33] <SupremeBeing> sungam: No errors or warnings
[12:33] <coreymon77> okay good
[12:33] <SupremeBeing> abattoir:btw hello again
[12:34] <soaa> okay, does anyone nere now know how to set up Knetworkmanager to work properly?
[12:34] <intelikey> coreymon77 i'm network illiterate if you were asking me. ;/
[12:34] <sungam> SupremeBeing: are you in rescue mode now?
[12:34] <SupremeBeing> sungam: In windoze now
[12:35] <sungam> SupremeBeing: but you've tried booting into rescue mode and checking if there's any broken packages?
[12:35] <coreymon77> now, in order to get my internet working on the ralink card, i had to type the command, sudo iwconfig ra0 essid [essid]  key [wep key] , press enter and then enter my root password
[12:35] <FlameMaster> hey guys, how do I tell kubuntu edgy that my BIOS clock doesn't have the UTC time (but local time instead)? <-- I give it the correct regional configuration (UTC -5), but since it thinks my BIOS time is UTC, it gives me some wacky time
[12:35] <gentoo-new> hey guys, i am attempting to configure a pci ethernet card (Ethernet controller: Linksys 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 11), and though it sees it in the system, i can't access the internet via dhcp. any ideas?
[12:35] <coreymon77> somehow (i forget how) i was told by someone here how to set it so that command ran automatically
[12:35] <abattoir> hi SupremeBeing :)
[12:35] <coreymon77> so
[12:36] <coreymon77> how do i get the atheros command to run automatically on start
[12:36] <misael> i do not have kasablanca in my repos
[12:36] <misael> how do i get it?
[12:37] <SupremeBeing> sungam: I don't know how to check for broken packages
[12:37] <SupremeBeing> sungam: is that the -f thing?
[12:37] <sungam> SupremeBeing: I tol you :) sudo apt-get -f check
[12:37] <SupremeBeing> sungam: ok, thanks =)
[12:37] <sungam> SupremeBeing: at least I think that will do it ;)
[12:37] <SupremeBeing> sungam: I'll give it a shot when I reboot
[12:37] <sungam> SupremeBeing:  :)
[12:38] <FlameMaster> hey guys, how do I tell kubuntu edgy that my BIOS clock doesn't have the UTC time (but local time instead)? <-- I give it the correct regional configuration (UTC -5), but since it thinks my BIOS time is UTC, it gives me some wacky time
[12:38] <aj_> misael, open adept, then click the adept tag and manage repositories, rt click  those you want then save and exit
[12:38] <larson9999> SupremeBeing: you can do a 'man apt-get' to see
[12:38] <SupremeBeing> larson9999: to see what? broken packages?
[12:38] <intelikey> FlameMaster mmm   man tzconfig    maybe...
[12:38] <larson9999> SupremeBeing: what the -f means
[12:38] <FlameMaster> intelikey: I'll check that
[12:38] <SupremeBeing> larson9999:  aha
[12:39] <intelikey> FlameMaster if not i'll look around.
[12:39] <sungam> coreymon77: is your network card in now?
[12:39] <FlameMaster> intelikey: thanks, please do
[12:39] <towync> abattoir are u here?
[12:40] <abattoir> towync: yup
[12:40] <towync> abattoir: cool i need more help with the karamba thingy =)
[12:40] <towync> i did save link as
[12:40] <towync> now it's a .php file hehe
[12:40] <towync> but before when kate opened it, it was a .skz file
[12:40] <towync> i clicked the mirror link on http://liquidweather.net/downloads.php download section
[12:40] <abattoir> towync: hmmm... ok do one thing, right click, copy link location...
[12:41] <Admiral_Chicago> is the bot broken or something?
[12:41] <towync> abattoir cool done
[12:41] <abattoir> towync: open a terminal, and enter 'wget <link goes here>'
[12:41] <abattoir> towync: that should download the .skz file to the correct location
[12:42] <sungam> coreymon77: if it is, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75451 may be a solution. Haven't tested it, though, so I don't know :)
[12:42] <towync> abattoir cool, where is that location
[12:42] <towync> abattoir: would that be desktop?
[12:42] <abattoir> towync: meant 'current' sorry
[12:42] <abattoir> towync: should be home dir.
[12:42] <towync> ok, right now i did the wget
[12:43] <abattoir> towync: is there a .skz file?
[12:43] <towync> and the last line of msg blah.skz saved, but it doesn't go back to comman promt
[12:43] <towync> let me check
[12:44] <towync> abattoir: this .skz file is saved: phpmyvisites.php?url=http://www.message.co.nz/~matt-sarah/lwp-13.3.1.skz
[12:44] <abattoir> towync: hmmph
[12:44] <towync> i think all i'd need is lwp-13.3.1.skz right
[12:44] <abattoir> towync: but is the .skz file valid?
[12:44] <towync> i don't know hehe
[12:44] <abattoir> towync: how big is it?
[12:45] <towync> let me check
[12:45] <towync> 484 B
[12:45] <towync> probably not right hehe
[12:45] <abattoir> towync: ok, it's not
[12:45] <towync> should i just wget the url above
[12:45] <towync> as in http://www.message.co.nz/~matt-sarah/lwp-13.3.1.skz
[12:45] <abattoir> towync: yes, please try that
[12:46] <towync> cool, trying
[12:46] <towync> ok that seems to work
[12:46] <towync> i have no idea what that means but hopefully they fix it hehe
[12:47] <towync> is there save target as on ur browsers?
[12:47] <abattoir> towync: it's the same as Save Link as
[12:47] <towync> yay so now in ~ directory i get lwp-13.3.3.skz
[12:47] <towync> and it's 12.4 kb
[12:47] <towync> is that right?
[12:47] <abattoir> towync: doesn't seem right
[12:47] <abattoir> towync: could you refresh?
[12:48] <towync> how
[12:48] <towync> i'm too new at this hehe =)
[12:48] <abattoir> towync: it's 4.2 MB
[12:48] <towync> oo shux
[12:48] <towync> wait in the wget msg
[12:48] <towync> it actually says 4.2 mb completed
[12:48] <abattoir> towync: F5 if you are in konqueror
[12:48] <towync> k
[12:48] <qbert> Id like to make F-10 maximize window, where to I set that again in KDE ?
[12:49] <towync> ah cool now it's the right size =) thx
[12:49] <abattoir> towync: or just click that button on top ;)
[12:49] <towync> yeah it's 4+ mb now =)
[12:49] <towync> so now i just use karamba?
[12:49] <towync> i forgot ur earlier msg sorrie =)
[12:49] <towync> it's too up there, but let me try find =)
[12:49] <abattoir> towync: yeah, you have superkaramba installed right?
[12:49] <towync> yup
[12:50] <abattoir> qbert: System Settings->Keyboard & Mouse->Keyboard Shortcuts, if you are using edgy
[12:51] <towync> abattoir: darn it, it says i don't have ImageMagick installed
[12:51] <abattoir> !info imagemagick
[12:51] <Ubotwo> Sorry, package searching is not available - try http://packages.ubuntu.com
[12:51] <intelikey> ok somebody with a correct kde clock and using something besides utc timezone with hwclock set to utc  could you tell me what your /etc/adjtime says please ?
[12:52] <intelikey> oh are we in net split state  ???
[12:52] <abattoir> towync: install it either through adept or w/ 'sudo apt-get install imagemagick'
[12:53] <LjL> intelikey: don't think
[12:53] <intelikey> !bot
[12:53] <Ubotwo> This is a temporary Ubotu replacement.
[12:53] <LjL> no ubotu just timed out
[12:54] <smaggard> hey :D
[12:54] <smaggard> whats a net split?
[12:54] <qbert> abattoir, thx
[12:54] <intelikey> when servers de-sync from each othere
[12:54] <sungam> intelikey: http://rafb.net/paste/results/g3lEsz44.html
[12:55] <smaggard> thats bad im guessing
[12:55] <abattoir> qbert: np
[12:55] <intelikey> sungam ty.
[12:57] <sungam> intelikey: np
[12:57] <cntb-guest> smaggard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[12:59] <intelikey> smaggard yes  it devides the users in the channel into groups and them sometimes causing nick collisions when they try to re sync   you might find your self being kicked out by nickserv  if you have auto kick enabled and the split doesn't last long enough for a timeout.     nothing major as far as the user is concerned.
[01:01] <smaggard> ah i c
[01:02] <intelikey> normally lots of part messages all of a sudden   then latter lots of join messages...
[01:12] <orkid> !nvidia
[01:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:15] <eyeless> !irc
[01:15] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[01:17] <killermach_> I have speckles/pixels on buttons in Ubuntu, they disappear when I mouse over them and stay clear after mousing out. I cannot figure out where to check my video card settings to see if the correct drver is being used, everything else looks good
[01:17] <killermach_> I have a laptop with ATI Radeon Mobile in it
[01:17] <towync> abattoir: hi, thx, i did the apt-get imagemagick and everything worked out fine =) thx alot
[01:17] <towync> abattoir: i restarted comp lol =)
[01:18] <SupremeBeing> abattoir: how long will you be on tonight?  I'll be booting kubuntu soon
[01:18] <killermach_> I have clicked System -> Administration, but do not find the video card driver selectable anywhere
[01:18] <billytwowilly> anyone have any experience with slowly dieing laptops? If the USB sub system just went how long till the whole laptop is fuxored do you think?
[01:19] <max_> !eyecandy
[01:19] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:19] <towync> does anyone know how i can start superkaramba theme automatically on login?
[01:19] <eyeless> !java
[01:19] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:20] <towync> does anyone know how i can start superkaramba theme automatically on login?
[01:21] <Jucato> towync: you either: 1) leave them open when you logout and set KDE to "Restore from previous session" or 2) make a link to the superkaramba theme in ~/.kde/Autostart
[01:22] <towync> Jucato: thx alot
[01:22] <towync> Jucato: is there a guide to the second optino online?
[01:22] <towync> option*
[01:23] <Jucato> towync: none that I know of, but here's how you could do it:
[01:23] <fyrmedic> Anyone here good at squid?
[01:24] <towync> Jucato: cool thx, i checked out my ~/.kde/Autostart directory, there's one file called .directory in it
[01:24] <Jucato> towync: easiest way: open up 2 Konqueror windows (or if you're better with tabs, 1 konqueror with 2 tabs). set on window/tab to ~/.kde/Autostart, and set the other one where the SUperkaramba .theme is located
[01:25] <towync> cool, *trying*
[01:25] <Jucato> towync: drag-n-drop the SK .theme to the ~/.kde/Autostart window and select "Link Here" from the menu that pops up
[01:25] <killermach_> where do I configure xorg?
[01:25] <towync> is Sk.theme the name of it?
[01:26] <towync> i did a search on locator bar for *.theme files, i can't find the SK.theme
[01:26] <Jucato> no
[01:26] <Jucato> not SK.theme. SK = Superkaramba
[01:26] <towync> so the file name should be superkaramba.theme?
[01:26] <eyeless> killermach_: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:26] <Jucato> no
[01:26] <aj_> killermatch: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:26] <towync> should be whatever i downloaded?
[01:26] <towync> which i don't remember hehe =)
[01:26] <Jucato> towync: it can be anything. usually the file name ends in .theme
[01:26] <towync> i just remember downloading a .skz file
[01:26] <Jucato> or that
[01:27] <killermach_> eyeless: I was hoping for a drop selection of video drivers
[01:27] <towync> and then opening it with superkramba
[01:27] <Jucato> towync: yes a .skz will also do
[01:27] <towync> cool
[01:27] <sungam> intelikey: did you get your clock right?
[01:27] <Jucato> .skz is like a Superkaramba Zip file
[01:28] <towync> ic, i don't have to unzip it right
[01:28] <eyeless> killermach_: hmmm, i dunno about that, i never needed to do that :P
[01:28] <towync> just dump it in the autostart directory?
[01:28] <Jucato> towync: yep. no need to unzip. it's executable
[01:28] <towync> Jucato: thx so much, i'm trying that out =)
[01:30] <killermach_> eyeless, me either.. the default install of Mandrake 9.2 worked fine, I suppose I expected that Ubuntu 6.06  would do better
[01:30] <eyeless> whats the safest way to change the default jvm(/usr/bin/java) in kubuntu?
[01:30] <robotgeek> eyeless: change to what?
[01:30] <eyeless> killermach_: what is it that doesnt work?
[01:30] <Jucato> eyeless: "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[01:31] <eyeless> robotgeek: to suns java
[01:31] <robotgeek> ^^
[01:31] <Jucato> eyeless: that's in the java page, too. a bit way down though
[01:31] <eyeless> i have it installed but its hidden in /usr/var or something :O
[01:31] <eyeless> ahh ill check again, ty
[01:32] <killermach_> eyeless:
[01:32] <killermach_> 	Download Tools
[01:32] <killermach_> Editing and Forms 	
[01:32] <killermach_> eyeless: my default installation on my laptop with ATI Radeon mobile, some X buttons get verticle pixel lines on them, when I mouse over them, they clear up and remain clear on mouse out
[01:34] <malik__> hi can any one tell me how do i install a .deb package in kubuntu?
[01:34] <killermach_> eyeless: Dragen in #ubuntu suggests reloading the theme, I'll try that in a while
[01:35] <eyeless> Jucato: found it, thanks a lot :P
[01:35] <Jucato> malik__: right-click on the .deb, select Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package
[01:35] <abattoir> malik__: rt.click->Kubuntu Package Menu..
[01:35] <abattoir> hmmph :P
[01:35] <Jucato> heh :)
[01:35] <malik__> thanx heaps guyz
[01:38] <misael> !howtoadept
[01:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about howtoadept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:38] <misael> !adept
[01:38] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[01:38] <der_steppenwolf> hi
[01:38] <der_steppenwolf> does someone knows about character sets?
[01:39] <robotgeek> der_steppenwolf: what do you mean?
[01:39] <jdiwnab> I'm getting a shell error code 255 when I try to run a PHP script. Does anyone know what error code 255 is
[01:47] <towync> Jucato : thx alot, all the superkramba themes are working now =)
[01:48] <malcolm_> how do i set my default web browser to firefox?
[01:48] <Jucato> malcolm_: System Settings -> Default Applications -> Web Browser (if you're in Edgy)
[01:48] <Jucato> System Settings -> KDE Components -> Default Applications -> Web Browser (if you're on Dapper, iirc)
[01:49] <towync> how is kde better/different then gnome?
[01:49] <Jucato> er...
[01:49] <robotgeek> towync: everything is just a little bit "nicer" :)
[01:49] <iban> holaaaaaaaa
[01:49] <Jucato> careful with the question :)
[01:49] <malcolm_> i'm in system settings, but can't fine default applications
[01:49] <kai_> wher could I check setting up joysticks?
[01:49] <robotgeek> Jucato: its okay in #kubuntu
[01:49] <Jucato> malcolm_: dapper or edgy?
[01:49] <malcolm_> nvm i found ti
[01:49] <Jucato> heh :)
[01:50] <towync> cool =) looks like i chose the right one going with kubuntu =)
[01:50] <towync> but there seemed to be alot more support for ubuntu
[01:50] <malcolm_> idk what  i have, but it was in kde components
[01:50] <towync> i remember trying to figure out what the heck gedit was in kubuntu
[01:50] <towync> then i settled with kwrite lol
[01:50] <robotgeek> towync: kate
[01:50] <towync> yeah that too =)
[01:50] <Jucato> malcolm_: you're on Dapper. and I did make a follow up about where to find it in dapper
[01:50] <towync> i just releaized =)
[01:51] <tony__> hello
[01:51] <towync> hey tony
[01:51] <towync> haven't talked to you before but i've seen u around last couple days hehe
[01:52] <tony__> i am new to kubuntu...i can't believe i did it...i figured out the dual boot
[01:52] <towync> congrats =)
[01:52] <tony__> everything works great...got beryl/aiglx installed and working
[01:52] <tony__> just one question...any way to change the k-menu start icon
[01:52] <kai_> wasup tony__
[01:53] <tony__> was thinking of changing it to a kubuntu icon or something
[01:53] <tony__> any help would be much appreciated
[01:55] <tony__> hello?
[01:55] <eyeless> !aiglx
[01:55] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[01:55] <Jucato> tony__: <apt> Instructions for changing the K menu icon: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2551958 . Alternatively, use kbfx
[01:55] <eyeless> !xgl
[01:55] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:56] <tony__> thanks jucato...i'll try the url..not sure what kbfx is either..sorry i'm a noob
[01:58] <towync> yeah thx jucato earlier too, for setting up the superkaramba for me =)
[02:01] <larson9999> i don't think i'm ready for transparency and cubed windows
[02:05] <towync> i am so ready for transparency and cubed windows
[02:05] <towync> but i can't get beryl to work =(((
[02:05] <towync> i want feisty *sniff sniff* =)
[02:14] <kdc1956> anyone know how to setup so you can watch dvd movied
[02:14] <kdc1956> movies
[02:20] <sungam> kdc1956 > !restricted
[02:20] <sungam> other way aroound :)
[02:20] <sungam> although he left...
[02:20] <robotgeek> too bad.
[02:20] <robotgeek> !patience
[02:20] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:21] <robotgeek> oh well...
[02:29] <BlueMage> how can I get VMWare working?
[02:29] <LjL> !vmware-player
[02:29] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.2-2 (edgy), package size 11602 kB, installed size 31336 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[02:29] <BlueMage> thanks!
[02:30] <Jucato> !vmware
[02:30] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[02:30] <LjL> you can use www.easyvmx.com to create new virtual machines for it, since the player doesn't allow that intrinsically
[02:30] <BlueMage> okay, thanks
[02:34] <draik> Where can I get flash 9?
[02:34] <robotgeek> !flash
[02:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:35] <robotgeek> draik: i think your best bet at this point of time is the adobe site
[02:35] <draik> robotgeek: I'm at the adobe site, but got nothing
[02:35] <robotgeek> draik: what is your architecture?
[02:36] <Jucato> err..
[02:36] <BackPacker> I installed Ubuntu 6.06 from a magazine DVD that also included KDE. I logged out of Gnome and back into KDE but it still uses gdm on booting. To use kdm instead, is it enough just to install the kdm package and uninstall gdm, or would I need to do more?
[02:36] <Jucato> draik, robotgeek: Flash 9 beta 2 is available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports
[02:37] <Jucato> !info flashplugin-nonfree edgy-backports
[02:37] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[02:37] <Jucato> hm...
[02:37] <draik> robotgeek: Edgy
[02:37] <draik> robotgeek: i386
[02:37] <Jucato> !info flashplugin-nonfree dapper-backports
[02:37] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.21.78.2ubuntu1~dapper1 (dapper-backports), package size 12 kB, installed size 100 kB (Only available for i386)
[02:37] <Jucato> that's just not right :P
[02:37] <der_steppenwolf> does kubuntu support ascii character set for the file systems?
[02:37] <Jucato> draik: enable edgy-backports, you can get Flash 9 beta 2
[02:38] <der_steppenwolf> it is annoying that you can't see correctly the character of files
[02:38] <draik> Jucato: I have them enabled
[02:38] <linopil> isapnp noot in edgy ?
[02:38] <Jucato> draik: sudo apt-get update?
[02:40] <majnoon> ok trying to install this
[02:40] <draik> says that the flashplugin-nonfree is already updated
[02:40] <BackPacker> Can anyone answer my kdm question?
[02:40] <Jucato> draik: um.. ok... hold on... this is strange...
[02:40] <method|> is there a good newsreader that supports nzb's besides klibido
[02:40] <draik> Jucato: Yup
[02:40] <method|> for some reason klibido isnt reading nzb's correctly
[02:40] <majnoon> install script crashed :(
[02:41] <draik> Do I want the installer or stand alone player?
[02:41] <gnomefreak> installer to view flash sites
[02:41] <method|> !newsreader
[02:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about newsreader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:41] <gnomefreak> stand-alone woul dbe to make them or view downloaded flash movies
[02:41] <gnomefreak> method|: akregator?
[02:42] <draik> gnomefreak: Installer it is
[02:42] <Jucato> draik: can you do an "apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree"?
[02:42] <gnomefreak> not so much a news reader though but i have my news on an rss feed to there
[02:42] <majnoon> ok i'm on the net is there a script i can download to install this ??
[02:42] <draik> Jucato: Yeah. What info do you need?
[02:42] <Jucato> draik: how many versions are listed?
[02:43] <gnomefreak> majnoon: what ar eyou installing?
[02:43] <draik> 2
[02:43] <gnomefreak> are*
[02:43] <Jucato> draik: do you have something like " 9.0.21.78.2ubuntu1~edgy1"?
[02:43] <gnomefreak> draik: what are the 2 repos listed ;)
[02:43] <majnoon> kubuntu  on cd it SAYS version 6.06 lts
[02:44] <draik> 9.0.21.78.2ubuntu1~edgy1 0
[02:44] <gnomefreak> majnoon: to download the ISO go to kubuntu.org
[02:44] <draik> 7.0.68~ubuntu3 0
[02:44] <draik> Those are the 2
[02:44] <Jucato> draik: if that's the one on top, then you already have Flash 9 beta 2
[02:44] <Jucato> apt-cache show flashplugin-nonfree
[02:44] <draik> Jucato: Yup, 9 is on top
[02:44] <Jucato> so there, you have Flash 9
[02:44] <gnomefreak> majnoon: wait you wan tto install it and you have a cd already?
[02:44] <I_Eat_Plastic> Is it possible to watch .wmv's?
[02:45] <draik> Umm...
[02:45] <Jucato> I_Eat_Plastic: yes. install the w32codecs
[02:45] <majnoon> nm it LOOKS like it running now
[02:45] <gnomefreak> majnoon: just pop the cd in and reboot in the bios make sure you are booting to cdrom first
[02:45] <draik> Jucato: Version: 7.0.68~ubuntu3
[02:45] <Jucato> !w32codecs | I_Eat_Plastic
[02:45] <ubotu> I_Eat_Plastic: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:45] <gnomefreak> nite Jucato
[02:45] <I_Eat_Plastic> Thank you.
[02:46] <Jucato> draik: apt-cache show will list the 2 versions, which version is listed as installed?
[02:46] <Jucato> gnomefreak: bye! :)
[02:46] <majnoon> nm it LOOKS like it running now
[02:47] <draik> Jucato: That's the thing. policy shows 9 as installed. show has version 7. What gives?
[02:47] <Jucato> I might be wrong about policy... hold on
[02:48] <cpk1> policy shows available and installed
[02:48] <Jucato> I presumed that the one on top will be the installed
[02:48] <draik> How can I change "show" from stating v7?
[02:48] <majnoon> ok 1 minor question to start (switching from mepis)
[02:49] <Jucato> draik: hold on. you might not have Flash 9 installed after all
[02:49] <draik> ok
[02:49] <Jucato> did you do "sudo apt-get update"?
[02:49] <majnoon> if do auto partitionining it does 1 partition and 1 swap ??
[02:49] <Jucato> draik: then "sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[02:49] <draik> yup
[02:50] <draik> I get nothing
[02:50] <Jucato> draik: can you pastebin your sources.list?
[02:50] <draik> one sec...
[02:51] <majnoon> was wondering if do auto partitionining it does 1 partition and 1 swap ??
[02:51] <majnoon> mepis did 1 for / and 1 for /home and 1 for swap
[02:51] <BluesKaj> can anyone suggest a utility for erasing dvdrws other the reformat option in K3B ?
[02:51] <draik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35348/
[02:51] <Jucato> draik: you are using us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[02:52] <draik> I think so
[02:52] <rance> would someone take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35347/  I posted a writeup about a sound problem on a knew kubuntu install.
[02:52] <draik> yup
[02:52] <rance> would someone mind looking at it
[02:53] <Jucato> draik: there were problems with us.archive.ubuntu.com for the past days. I'm not sure if they've been resolved
[02:53] <draik> I also get this... Jucato: PM
[02:53] <majnoon> and will dist upgrade get me latest version ??
[02:54] <draik> Err http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Sources
[02:54] <draik>   404 Not Found
[02:54] <draik> Sorry, I thought the error would be longer
[02:55] <Jucato> draik: do you mind changing to uk.archive.ubuntu.com temporarily? I'm not sure if the problem with the US archives has been fixed
[02:55] <draik> I can't care less. As long as I get what I need and it's usable I'm happy
[02:55] <majnoon> Jucato:  was wondering if do auto partitionining it does 1 partition and 1 swap ??
[02:55] <Jucato> majnoon: afaik, yes
[02:56] <majnoon> THAT good
[02:56] <majnoon> and will dist upgrade get me latest version ??
[02:56] <Jucato> dist-upgrade from?
[02:56] <majnoon> <<has 6.06
[02:56] <Jucato> ah you need very special instructions
[02:56] <Jucato> and if you're just installing now, I suggest install directly to Edgy if you want
[02:56] <draik> UK for backports only or all?
[02:57] <majnoon> doing from cdrom got in mail
[02:57] <Jucato> draik: try for backports only
[02:58] <Jucato> !upgrade | majnoon
[02:58] <ubotu> majnoon: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[02:58] <majnoon> <<semi used to deb derives
[02:59] <draik> Jucato: Nope. No upgrade for flashplugin-nonfree
[02:59] <Jucato> majnoon: there are special instructions for upgrading from Dapper to Edgy
[03:00] <majnoon> i can do that after install ??
[03:00] <kai_> wausp Jucato
[03:00] <Jucato> majnoon: you should do that *after* the install :)
[03:00] <Jucato> draik: really strange...
[03:01] <majnoon> An error occurred while loading http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade:
[03:01] <majnoon> The process for the http://wiki.kubuntu.org protocol died unexpectedly.
[03:02] <Jucato> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade
[03:03] <majnoon> does the live cd have lynx or links ??
[03:03] <uwo> hi all. just compiled ffmpeg to encode videos for ipod - it works, but only with sudo. as normal user i get /usr/bin/ffmpeg: No such file or directory. any help?
[03:03] <Jucato> majnoon: not that I'm aware of
[03:04] <majnoon> nope :(
[03:04] <Jucato> draik: ok, I'm just going to work on a hunch. move everything to uk.archive.ubuntu.com, and disable Seveas's repo
[03:04] <_sergio> hello, why kubuntu shows incorrect us-ascii characters?
[03:04] <Jucato> draik: and sudo apt-get update (as always)
[03:05] <nagyv> If I can not get webcam chat working between my girlfriend (uses windows) and myself, I will switch back to windows. I am really disappointed now! :(
[03:05] <draik> k. One sec
[03:05] <_sergio> hagyv: use amsn
[03:06] <nagyv> _sergio: it does not recognizes my webcam, although any other program does
[03:06] <majnoon> does the rep have the mplyerhq.hu ver of mplayer in it ??
[03:06] <Jucato> is there a png to .ico converter in KDE/Kubuntu/Linux?
[03:06] <_sergio> are you behind a firewall?
[03:07] <kai_> where can I go to get my joysticks working? is there a wiki for that too
[03:08] <draik> Jucato: Does nothing. Still where I'm at
[03:08] <Jucato> draik: ok that's just so strange...
[03:08] <draik> yup
[03:09] <_sergio> edgy has many problems with non-ascii characters, right?
[03:09] <Jucato> draik: hm.. how did you install flashplugin-nonfree the first time?
[03:09] <draik> same way
[03:09] <Jucato> apt-get install?
[03:10] <draik> yup
[03:10] <_sergio> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=306139
[03:10] <_sergio> is there any solution?
[03:10] <Jucato> draik: hm.. one last try. remove flashplugin-nonfree then reinstall it...
[03:10] <Jucato> draik: other than that, I'm stumped
[03:10] <_sergio> nagyv: are you behind a firewall?
[03:11] <majnoon> Jucato: found the directions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php
[03:11] <nagyv> _sergio: yes, and could not find out how to set up my router (I think I have set it up)
[03:12] <Jucato> majnoon: no. don't follow those
[03:12] <nagyv> _sergio: now I am trying ekiga and sip, but I have never used it, my girlfriend neither, and actually we have no idea how to get it working
[03:13] <Jucato> majnoon: on second thought... it's "almost" the same as the KubuntuUpgrade instructions
[03:13] <Jucato> majnoon: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade this one is more complete
[03:13] <Kervan> dou you have /etc/init.d/hpijs file?
[03:13] <Jucato> abh.. brb...
[03:14] <garret> I could use some help fixing an issue with KDE after upgrading to edgy, I do not have most of the features on the command bar at the bottom of the screen.
[03:15] <_sergio> nagyv: you have to open the port 1863 and then the ports 6891 to 6900
[03:16] <_sergio> nagyv: have u done it already?
[03:16] <nagyv> _sergio: not for 1863
[03:16] <coreymon77> oksu
[03:16] <coreymon77> help people
[03:16] <nagyv> _sergio: do I need to reboot the router?
[03:17] <coreymon77> i just installed my new alink101 pci network card
[03:17] <coreymon77> atheros cipset
[03:17] <Erich-K> How can I find out how much RAM I have?
[03:17] <coreymon77> now i load up kubuntu
[03:17] <coreymon77> and it automatically changed interfaces from ra0 (my old card) to ath0 (the new one)
[03:18] <coreymon77> i run the iwconfig command
[03:18] <coreymon77> and iwconfig says everyhtings all right
[03:18] <coreymon77> but i cant connect to the internet
[03:18] <coreymon77> help
[03:19] <coreymon77> please?
[03:20] <coreymon77> help?
[03:20] <majnoon> ok but it http NOT https
[03:20] <draik> Jucato: You here?
[03:21] <notech> can you ping anything by ip address?
[03:21] <_sergio> nagyv: maybe
[03:21] <coreymon77> whome?
[03:21] <notech> coreymon77:  can you ping anything by ip address?
[03:21] <coreymon77> not sure
[03:21] <coreymon77> id have to restart to check
[03:21] <coreymon77> okay
[03:22] <coreymon77> so first check if i can ping anything
[03:22] <coreymon77> like my router
[03:22] <coreymon77> if i can?
[03:22] <notech> coreymon77: if pinging works then the DNS(nameserver) entry is missing
[03:22] <coreymon77> (im in windows now so im gathering a list of things to do before i restart)
[03:23] <garret> All is there a command one can run to re-set KDE?
[03:23] <draik> How do you install *.tar.gz?
[03:23] <coreymon77> notech, and how would i fix that?
[03:23] <notech> tar zxvf
[03:23] <joscha> Hi, i'm getting my brand-new Intel 64Bit DualCore System tomorrow... can i use the AMD64 iso for install or should i go for the i386 iso?
[03:23] <draik> garret: CTRL+ALT+[BACKSPACE] 
[03:23] <notech> coreymon77: i'm not on kubuntu, wherever you configure interfaces
[03:24] <draik> garret: sorry, that's to restart, not reset
[03:24] <coreymon77> whats the dns(nameserver)?
[03:24] <draik> notech: thank you
[03:24] <Erich-K> How can I find out how much RAM I have?
[03:24] <uwo> hi all. ffmpeg works only with sudo, as regular user i get /usr/bin/ffmpeg: No such file or directory. anyone help?
[03:24] <uwo> .
[03:24] <der_steppenwolf> Erich-K: free
[03:25] <notech> coreymon77: either you get it from your isp and set it statically, or you get it from your isp or router by dhcp. either way you need to verify its there
[03:25] <sungam> uwo: try changing properties?
[03:25] <coreymon77> notech what is it though?
[03:25] <Erich-K> der_steppenwolf: Thanks
[03:25] <sungam> joscha: get a 686 disk :)
[03:25] <uwo> sungam: which properties?
[03:25] <notech> coreymon77: whats a DNS entry?
[03:25] <sungam> uwo:  two secs
[03:26] <notech> coreymon77: its an ip address to whatever you are using for a nameserver, it translates ip addresses to url's
[03:26] <coreymon77> notech i mean the nameserver thing
[03:26] <coreymon77> whats the nameserver
[03:26] <sungam> uwo: try 'sudo chmod 755 /usr/bin/ffmpeg'
[03:27] <joscha> sungam: you mean i386?
[03:27] <uwo> sungam: /usr/bin/ffmpeg - no such file or directory...
[03:27] <sungam> joscha: no, I mean i686 if you can find one
[03:27] <coreymon77> notech whats the nameserver
[03:27] <sungam> uwo: 'whereis ffmpeg'
[03:28] <notech> coreymon77: since you don't seem to know it then i assume you never set it manually before. try to reconfigure the interface for dhcp
[03:28] <uwo> sungam: ffmpeg is in /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg
[03:28] <coreymon77> oh no
[03:28] <coreymon77> i use static ips
[03:28] <sungam> uwo: try 'sudo chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg' then :)
[03:28] <joscha> this would still be 32Bit, i don't know how much of kubuntu is compatible for 64Bit Processors
[03:28] <notech> coreymon77: then you must have set a nameserver before with the old card, configure it again
[03:29] <uwo> sungam: still doesn't work - do i need to link it?
[03:29] <majnoon> joscha: if i do that right away after reboot then shouldn't take too long (on cable isp)
[03:29] <coreymon77> actually
[03:29] <coreymon77> i dont think i did with linux
[03:29] <coreymon77> w/e
[03:29] <sungam> uwo: might be a good idea :)
[03:29] <notech> coreymon77: had to, you can't resolve url's without one
[03:29] <uwo> sungam: do you know how? just link file1 file2?
[03:30] <coreymon77> no i mean i dont think i set a static on linux
[03:30] <coreymon77> just windows
[03:30] <sungam> uwo: sudo ln -s /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg /usr/bin/ffmpeg
[03:30] <sungam> uwo: sudo ln -s <source> <dest>
[03:30] <uwo> sungam: tnx !
[03:30] <coreymon77> anyways
[03:30] <coreymon77> notech what do i do if i cant ping ips
[03:31] <notech> coreymon77: then your router probably issues ip's by dhcp, configure it for dhcp
[03:31] <sungam> uwo: did it work?
[03:31] <coreymon77> now lets say i cant ping ips
[03:31] <coreymon77> then what
[03:31] <uwo> sungam: yes!
[03:31] <notech> coreymon77: then you haven't gotten a correct ip address assigned to interface, or something wrong with the driver
[03:31] <sungam> uwo: you came up with the solution, not me... enjoy :)
[03:32] <coreymon77> notech, should i give you a link to the manufacturer page of the card i have?
[03:33] <notech> coreymon77: you should start by making sure the interface is configured for dhcp
[03:33] <coreymon77> okay
[03:33] <coreymon77> ill go do that now
[03:33] <coreymon77> brb
[03:33] <flaccid> how do i op myself on freenode on channel i have access in
[03:34] <Jucato> flaccid: maybe they would know in #freenode (or #freenode-social)
[03:34] <flaccid> you have to wait to voiced to speak
[03:34] <Jucato> oh
[03:35] <flaccid> which is usually a few hours
[03:35] <majnoon> Jucato: : if i do that right away after reboot then shouldn't take too long (on cable isp)
[03:35] <majnoon> ??
[03:35] <notech> flaccid: /msg chanserv help op
[03:35] <Jucato> depends on your connection and the server
[03:35] <majnoon> the stuff on the wiki
[03:35] <majnoon> 3 mb connection
[03:36] <Jucato> that'd be ok I guess
[03:36] <majnoon> because this looks like a BARE BONES setup
[03:36] <flaccid> notech: yeah i need more access apparently to op myself
[03:37] <dmarkey> anyone know much about KDM?
[03:37] <flaccid> a bit
[03:37] <majnoon> <<know enough to leave it alone
[03:37] <flaccid> hehe
[03:38] <dmarkey> hmm.. i dunno if this is possible but, say i set it to olny allow only graphical login per user
[03:38] <dmarkey> one*
[03:38] <majnoon> i THINK that is possible but no know HOW
[03:39] <majnoon> try kde.org
[03:39] <dmarkey> nono, i know its possible to only allow one graphical login
[03:39] <draik> Jucato: I GOT IT! Thanks
[03:39] <dmarkey> but what i want to do is when the person logs into another location, thier session comes up from before
[03:40] <coreymon77_> bingo!
[03:40] <coreymon77_> i set a static
[03:40] <coreymon77_> and enabled the device] 
[03:40] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: ping
[03:40] <coreymon77_> and its works!
[03:40] <notech> working is good
[03:42] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: pong
[03:42] <Admiral_Chicago> how is it going?
[03:42] <Admiral_Chicago> offtopic?
[03:43] <Jucato> joining...
[03:43] <ironfroggy> anyone know of a firefox extension that i can install on multiple boxes and sync which other extension i have installed?
[03:43] <coreymon77_> ironfroggy: i know of one to sync bookmarks
[03:43] <Admiral_Chicago> ironfroggy: i think i've heard of one, but i don't recall it
[03:43] <ironfroggy> coreymon77_: no i want to sync extensions
[03:44] <majnoon> though FIRST thing me do will be get a tv program to watch tv during the update
[03:48] <majnoon> this install ALMOST as slow as windoze
[03:48] <majnoon> but you CAN use it during the install
[03:49] <majnoon> no remember putting root pass in here
[03:50] <majnoon> ok HOPEFULLY brb
[03:53] <kubuntu> hello, where can i download wine for kubuntu?
[03:53] <kubuntu> http://www.winehq.com/site/download
[03:53] <bimberi> !wine
[03:53] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:53] <kubuntu> thanks
[03:53] <flaccid> wtf
[03:55] <kubuntu> dont be fucking cursing in here
[03:56] <LjL> not funny
[03:56] <Jucato> at least he didn't say the f word explicity
[03:56] <murrlin_> test, sorry
[03:56] <angasule> Jucato: furry?
[03:56] <Jucato> angasule: funky :)
[03:57] <kubuntu> xD
[03:57] <angasule> heh
[03:57] <kubuntu> wine
[03:57] <kubuntu> !wine
[03:57] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:03] <majnoon> Jucato:
[04:03] <majnoon> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:03] <majnoon>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: xorg but it is not going to be installed
[04:03] <Jucato> are you following the steps in the guide?
[04:03] <Jucato> !upgrade
[04:03] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:03] <majnoon> yup
[04:04] <majnoon> install xorg first ??
[04:04] <Jucato> which step are you know in?
[04:04] <Jucato> s/know/now
[04:04] <majnoon> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal
[04:05] <Jucato> you're done with "apt-get -u dist-upgrade"?
[04:05] <majnoon> let me see somthing i THINK me missed something
[04:06] <majnoon> THAT what me missed :)
[04:06] <majnoon> no see any tv programs though
[04:08] <majnoon> can i use some of the standard debian repos too Jucato??
[04:08] <Jucato> no
[04:09] <majnoon> i do have a tv/radio card and don't see ANY tv/radio progams
[04:09] <BluesKaj> TVTime will work
[04:10] <fyrmedic> What app do I need to use to view logs from terminal
[04:10] <majnoon> it not listed in repo me think
[04:10] <fyrmedic> will nano work?
[04:10] <Jucato> !tvtime
[04:10] <ubotu> tvtime: A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-2.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 636 kB, installed size 1768 kB
[04:10] <majnoon> no sound in amarok :(
[04:10] <Jucato> !kdetv
[04:11] <ubotu> kdetv: TV viewer for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.9-1 (edgy), package size 1356 kB, installed size 5336 kB
[04:11] <Jucato> majnoon: 2 tv viewers
[04:11] <Jucato> majnoon: trying to play mp3's?
[04:11] <BluesKaj> XDTV as well
[04:11] <BluesKaj> !xdtv
[04:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xdtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:11] <Jucato> :P
[04:12] <majnoon> streams
[04:12] <Jucato> ah you probably need some codecs.
[04:12] <majnoon> no SOUND
[04:13] <Jucato> have you tried playing other types of sounds? do system sounds work?
[04:13] <majnoon> system sounds work
[04:13] <majnoon> fat32 partitions work ok ??
[04:13] <Jucato> it's a codec problem. you need to install those
[04:14] <BluesKaj> I just installed xdtv .., needs mmpython and some xtra libs like libxdtv-i18n-1.4.0.1
[04:14] <Jucato> you can read/write from/to fat32, if that's what you mean
[04:14] <majnoon> normal mount ??
[04:14] <Jucato> !fat32
[04:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:17] <ironfroggy> why are new-style classes apparently slower than old-style classes? (http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/weblog/arch_d7_2006_12_02.shtml#e571)
[04:18] <majnoon> no playing mp3's
[04:18] <ironfroggy> wrong chan...
[04:22] <sungam> !restricted > majnoon
[04:22] <killermach_> easyubuntu is complaining that I don't have a public key on my system to authencate the install.... how do I fix this??
[04:23] <Jucato> !mp3 | majnoon
[04:23] <ubotu> majnoon: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:23] <Jucato> !multiverse | majnoon
[04:23] <ubotu> majnoon: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:23] <Realistico> hola
[04:23] <Realistico> hello
[04:24] <lost123> hello
[04:24] <lost123> i need some help
[04:24] <fyrmedic> What app do I need to use to view .log files in terminal? Or will nano work for that?
[04:24] <Realistico> how do I get WMA,WMV and the rest to play on ubuntu KDE
[04:24] <lost123> im tring to get kubuntu 6.10 running...
[04:25] <Realistico> What do you mean with running?
[04:25] <Jucato> Realistico: download and install w32codecs
[04:26] <Jucato> !w32codecs | Realistico
[04:26] <ubotu> Realistico: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:26] <lost123> when i enter start from the cd it...
[04:26] <Realistico> Where do I get W32codecs
[04:26] <lost123> when i boot from the live cd...
[04:26] <Jucato> Realistico: fromthat RestrictedFormats page
[04:26] <lost123> and press start or watever
[04:27] <lost123> some green loading text comes at the top and then the kubuntu loading screen comes
[04:27] <Realistico> Do you have a good working cd?
[04:28] <lost123> after long while...i kust get a black screen with a curser(u know what i mean...like a DOS screen) but i cant type anything...
[04:29] <majnoon> my video is screwy
[04:30] <lost123> is this ment to happen...
[04:30] <lost123> i think so...
[04:31] <lost123> ???
[04:31] <majnoon> no can play *&%^*&^*&^C mp3's
[04:31] <lost123> iv been tring ti get htis thing to work for ages....
[04:31] <lost123> am i ment to just wait....
[04:31] <lost123> whats ment to happen after thee loading screen??
[04:32] <lost123> and how long is it ment load for....
[04:32] <Realistico> it depents on how much ram you have.. try getting 512+
[04:32] <FlameMaster> help! I was messing with Beryl and now all my windows' titlebars are gone! any suggestions?
[04:33] <lost123> iv got 1 gig...
[04:33] <lost123> so whats ment to happen after the loading screen??
[04:34] <Realistico> should not take too long to load. It is possible that you have a damaged cd
[04:34] <lost123> maybe...
[04:34] <FlameMaster> help! I was messing with Beryl and now all my windows' titlebars are gone! any suggestions? <-- maybe if someone could sent me a backed-up profile (beryl+aiglx)?
[04:35] <lost123> how do i check?
[04:39] <i\o> Does anybody know an essay way that I could have my compute automatically back up a certain directory by zipping it and sending it to an ftp .. on a scheduled basis (in the background)?
[04:39] <lost123> hellooo
[04:40] <FlameMaster> help! I was messing with Beryl and now all my windows' titlebars are gone! any suggestions? <-- maybe if someone could sent me a backed-up profile (beryl+aiglx)?
[04:40] <majnoon> !help
[04:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:41] <majnoon> !mpg123
[04:41] <ubotu> mpg123: MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.60-3 (edgy), package size 129 kB, installed size 324 kB (Only available for i386 alpha powerpc m68k arm sparc hppa)
[04:41] <majnoon> !mc
[04:41] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-5 (edgy), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[04:41] <Dragen> FlameMaster: "messing with beryl".  What did you do?
[04:41] <majnoon> !phart
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <FlameMaster> Dragen: I modified an option, and when I saved, my titlebars went poof
[04:41] <FlameMaster> Dragen: And I didn't have a saved profile
[04:42] <Dragen> FlameMaster: can you try restarting X by hitting CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE
[04:43] <FlameMaster> Dragen: Yes, maybe that will do. Too bad I can't do that on this box. restarting X/rebooting/shutdown will freeze my pc, and I have already reinstalled thrice. Anyways, I would have to reboot if I want to test...
[04:44] <Dragen> welll.....
[04:44] <Dragen> you can try restarting beryl
[04:44] <Dragen> titlebars disappearing is a failure of Beryl
[04:44] <FlameMaster> Dragen: Switched to KDEWin, closed beryl-manager, then started it again. Same thing :S
[04:44] <Dragen> FlameMaster: ah you switched to KDE from Gnome?
[04:45] <lost123> help me somebody...
[04:46] <FlameMaster> Dragen. Nope. I'm using kubuntu, no gnome here.
[04:46] <Dragen> FlameMaster: did you add these options to your xorg.conf file?  Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[04:47] <FlameMaster> Dragen: Nope.
[04:47] <Dragen> FlameMaster: go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:47] <FlameMaster> Dragen: I'm on my way
[04:48] <FlameMaster> Dragen: I'm there
[04:48] <Dragen> FlameMaster: Under your "Device" section and "Screen" section make sure you add this to it:
[04:48] <Dragen> Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[04:48] <FlameMaster> I can paste it anywhere?
[04:48] <Jucato> !pastebin
[04:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:48] <rance> could someone help me with strange sound card detection problem, Ive already read a lot of help, but I think this one is different, please check out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35361/
[04:48] <FlameMaster> Dragen: what does that line do anyways?
[04:48] <Dragen> FlameMaster: no, it goes IN the device and screen sections
[04:49] <malik__> hi guyz is there any way that we can make konqueror remember n open the last session after it was closed?
[04:49] <Dragen> It is a known fix to make beryl draw the titlebars.  sometimes it works, other times it doesn't.  It works for me though.
[04:49] <FlameMaster> Dragen: do I have to restart X anyways? Because that would mean a reboot for me OTL
[04:50] <Dragen> FlameMaster: Most likely, yes
[04:51] <FlameMaster> Dragen: hey dude, my pc frozes whenever I restart X/reboot/shutdown (kubuntu edgy amd64 on a Prescott EM64T cpu). I have already reinstalled thrice, to no avail. Any ideas?
[04:52] <Dragen> FlameMaster: you running nvidia?
[04:52] <FlameMaster> nope, i810
[04:52] <cps1966> use ctrl alt backspace to restart x
[04:52] <FlameMaster> Dragen: it frozes with a black screen and a cursor on the top left corner, and it won't receive any input
[04:52] <Dragen> cps1966: his machine freezes when he does that
[04:52] <malik__> plus sec problem if some1 can guide me thru is that when i log off screen goes black n nothin works n i have to restart the comp
[04:53] <Dragen> FlameMaster: Hmm interesting.  Have you installed the latest official vid drivers?
[04:53] <FlameMaster> Dragen: even Alt+SysRQ+B won't work, until after some minutes
[04:53] <malik__> even ctr alt backspace doesnt work
[04:53] <FlameMaster> Dragen: well, I guess they are. Latest kubuntu and all, it's not like Intel drivers change that much
[04:53] <FlameMaster> malik__: same problem here, kinda
[04:54] <Telroth> I'm planning on doing some major updates to my system (new proc, new mobo, new ram, new graphics card). I'd really like to not install kubuntu again. What changes would I need to make to my configs to set up the new hardware correctly? (keeping same proc family, P4->core 2 duo (both x86))
[04:54] <Dragen> FlameMaster: Latest drivers make a huge difference and solves a lot of problems.  that's usually the first place to start
[04:55] <FlameMaster> Dragen: sudo aptitude update xserver-xorg-driver-i810?
[04:55] <Dragen> FlameMaster: If that works, it's totally worth a shot.  Just be prepared.. I also suggest making a backup of your xorg.conf file just in case.
[04:56] <malik__> but one thing u guyz might wanna know is when i have 2 users logged in n then i log off one n x crashes n then if press alt f7 it takes me back to login screen for the session of the user which is still there
[04:56] <malik__> but with one user logged on its just a pain
[04:58] <malik__> any ideas?
[04:59] <FlameMaster> Dragen: Ok, so http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1646660 might work. I'll try and see what happens. I'll be back.
[04:59] <Dragen> Ok FlameMaster, good luck!
[05:00] <majnoon>  123kB/s 20m29s << not too bad speed for down loads
[05:02] <malik__> guyz just one more question.......is it worth installing opera on kubuntu?
[05:02] <malik__> n if i do is it hard to make multimedia codecs work with opera?
[05:04] <solid_liq> malik__: just install it and see, Opera works well
[05:04] <majnoon> opera USUALLY uses mozilla/firefox codecs/plugins no problem
[05:04] <rance> could someone help me with strange sound card detection problem, Ive already read a lot of help, but I think this one is different, please check out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35361/
[05:04] <majnoon> keyword is USUALLY
[05:07] <majnoon> !i810
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i810 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <sungam> majnoon: what's the issue with i810?
[05:12] <majnoon> that my video card
[05:23] <fyrmedic> how do I read .log files in terminal?
[05:25] <majnoon> !xawtv
[05:25] <ubotu> xawtv: X11 TV application. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.95-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 227 kB, installed size 656 kB
[05:25] <majnoon> !xdetv
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xdetv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <majnoon> !kdetv
[05:25] <ubotu> kdetv: TV viewer for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.9-1 (edgy), package size 1356 kB, installed size 5336 kB
[05:27] <tony__> anyone here use a firewall?
[05:31] <FaU|cOn> hi ! i have a problem with my orinoco based card (chipset HermesI). fresh install of Edgy.  when i try iwconfig eth0 mode monitor i got : Error for wireless request "set mode" (8B06)  set failed on device eth0; invalid argument
[05:34] <tony__> FaU|cOn: sorry, i wouldn't know, maybe someone will show up that does
[05:37] <killermach_> where are the games like chromium or openGL games for ubuntu?
[05:38] <tony__> killermach_: have you tried apt-cache search?
[05:38] <killermach_> tony__: nope.. been browsing synaptic
[05:39] <tony__> killermach_: "apt-cache search opengl" or games
[05:39] <killermach_> ok.. I did search games, and I looked in the Games Section..I'll look for openGL
[05:40] <tony__> it should be in the default repositories
[05:40] <killermach_> no chromium or opengl games.. this is a new install, maybe I haven't configured something yet..
[05:41] <killermach_> my graphics ATI seem to be fine.. I have openGL screensavers
[05:41] <majnoon> !decss
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about decss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <flaccid> hmm why do i have these vmnet interfaces?
[05:41] <majnoon> !dvd
[05:41] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:42] <tony__> killermach_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[05:43] <tony__> !ubotu
[05:45] <tony__> anyone in here run a firewall?
[05:45] <FlameMaster> is there a way to make kdesu not ask for my password for a fixed period of time at least?
[05:45] <tony__> FlameMaster: there's a way for it to not ask for a password, not sure about a limited time though
[05:46] <FlameMaster> tony__: that will do.
[05:46] <tony__> FlameMaster: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_use_.22sudo.22_without_prompt_for_password_.28not_secure.29
[05:46] <FlameMaster> tony__: do you know what do I have to do?
[05:46] <FlameMaster> tony__: ah ok
[05:46] <FlameMaster> tony__: thanks
[05:46] <tony__> np
[05:47] <majnoon> darn puter thinks bios set to utc
[05:47] <FlameMaster> majnoon: same here. can't find a way to fix that
[05:48] <FaU|cOn> is it normal that my pcmcia wlan card is named eth0 ?  should it be wlan0 ?
[05:48] <musya> does anyone know how to make lines show in kdevelop?
[05:48] <musya> i mean line numbers?
[05:48] <flaccid> f11
[05:48] <FlameMaster> tony__: uhhh does this work with kdesu too?
[05:49] <tony__> FlameMaster: not sure
[05:51] <FlameMaster> tony__: I'll try anyways. thanks for your assistance.
[05:51] <tony__> no problem
[05:54] <computer> hi everyone
[05:54] <towync> hello all
[05:55] <cpk1> FaU|cOn: every system is different, but i suppose that might be... odd
[05:56] <towync> does anyone use 2xav with realplayer?
[05:56] <towync> or i guess my question is, is there anyway to adjust the playback speed in realplayer
[05:56] <towync> on linux
[05:58] <majnoon> no tvprograms in apt-cache search
[05:58] <cpk1> majnoon: eh?
[05:59] <majnoon> !xawtv
[05:59] <ubotu> xawtv: X11 TV application. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.95-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 227 kB, installed size 656 kB
[05:59] <majnoon> like that
[05:59] <cpk1> !repos
[05:59] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:59] <cpk1> add the correct repo
[06:00] <majnoon> ok need to wait a while though :(
[06:00] <majnoon> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[06:00] <majnoon>  klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.
[06:01] <towync> is anyone able to adjust playback speed while watching webcast on linux realplayer10?
[06:01] <towync> is anyone able to adjust playback speed while watching webcast on linux realplayer10?
[06:01] <towync> oops sorry
[06:01] <towync> spamed once =) lol
[06:02] <towync> what aim should i download for linux? gaim looks ugly =(
[06:02] <Jucato> there's Kopete
[06:02] <towync> aim 1.5 doesn't look too much better, is there some IM program that can connect to aim but looks better?
[06:02] <towync> o
[06:03] <towync> i use kopete but doesn't that lead me to gaim?
[06:03] <cpk1> kopete is pretty good
[06:03] <cpk1> towync: huh? i think you are confused, gaim and kopete both connect to the AIM server
[06:03] <Jucato> why would Kopete lead you to gaim?
[06:03] <towync> hehe how do i configure kopete again, right now when i click kopete, it leads automatcally to gaim
[06:04] <towync> i don't know, i think the first time i tried kopotee, i use it to open gaim
[06:04] <Jucato> towync: GAIM is not AIM
[06:04] <cpk1> and they are 2 very different programs
[06:04] <towync> sorrie =) im complete newbie
[06:05] <towync> i c my aim buddy list in kopete right now, does that mean i'm good to go?
[06:05] <cpk1> yup
[06:05] <cpk1> you could also use kopete for irc if you wanted
[06:05] <bobsaget> DCC SCHAT isoiledmypantaloon
[06:05] <towync> cool
[06:05] <towync> what about this wallet thing
[06:05] <cpk1> and you can use several other protocols with kopete as well
[06:06] <cpk1> thats the kde password manager
[06:06] <towync> sometimes, i forgot when, it comes up the wallet needing a password
[06:06] <towync> ic
[06:07] <max_> what do i need to download for .wmv support
[06:07] <towync> so now that i have kopete linked with aim automatically, how do i start irc? I looked at file, edit, and setting, nothing seems to match
[06:09] <cpk1> towync: go to configure, accounts and then new
[06:10] <max_> what do i need to download for .wmv support
[06:10] <cpk1> !wmv
[06:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:10] <tony__> max_: i believe VLC plays them
[06:10] <sungam> I started beryl, and not only did it crash X, it reset my KDE configs :)
[06:11] <xdrak> como actualizo de dapper a edgy
[06:11] <Dr_willis> now thats a good crash.
[06:11] <towync> wow this is nice
[06:11] <sungam> !it > xdrak
[06:11] <towync> cpk1: thx alot cpk1
[06:11] <sungam> Dr_willis: it is... and just a little bit annoying :p
[06:12] <Dr_willis> I would almost have to think it was a 'user did somthing wrong' kind of problem. :)
[06:12] <towync> is there someway to change the theme/skin/look of kopete? it still doesn't look as nice as the new aim on windows =), think i'm asking for too much tho hehe
[06:14] <sungam> Dr_willis: well.. not really... it happens every time I start beryl... so sure... it's something I've configured wrong, but it's still a pretty bad crash :)
[06:14] <cpk1> towync: its made to integrate with the look of kde
[06:15] <Dr_willis> Testing out Beryl on Sabayon Linux at the moment...  cute... for the first hour....
[06:15] <Dr_willis> now its disabled. :)
[06:15] <towync> cpk1:  ic, thx
[06:17] <milaks> Hi. I've installed Eclipse with CDT, but when I try to start Eclipse it breaks with message that an error ocurred and that I should see log for more details. Log file is here:http://rafb.net/paste/results/4wG8tZ47.html
[06:17] <milaks>  Does anyone know what is the problem?
[06:18] <milaks> I've been to #eclipse but that channel is totaly useless
[06:18] <crimsun> eclipse-cdt is fairly broken; it's being fixed for feisty
[06:19] <milaks> crimsun: well I dont know if it is CDT that makes problems in my case, since it doesnt worl even without CDT.
[06:19] <towync> !xchat
[06:19] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[06:19] <towync> !AmIRC
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about AmIRC - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <towync> what...
[06:20] <tony__> anyone recommend a good irc client besides Konversation?
[06:20] <towync> i want better looking kopete lol
[06:20] <towync> it looks like aim1.5
[06:21] <towync> sort of lacking in eye-candiness
[06:21] <towync> =)
[06:21] <cpk1> ksirc?
[06:21] <towync> !ksirc
[06:21] <ubotu> ksirc: IRC client for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 713 kB, installed size 2412 kB
[06:21] <Dr_willis> eye candy causes ocular cavities
[06:21] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:21] <towync> does ksirc looked better? =)
[06:21] <towync> hehe
[06:21] <towync> i really don't know what that means, but ok =)
[06:22] <towync> sounds cool when u say it =)
[06:22] <FlameMaster> I'm wondering if there are frontends for irssi...
[06:22] <towync> !irssi
[06:22] <ubotu> irssi is a command line interface IRC client ( "sudo apt-get install irssi" without the quotes to try it out )
[06:22] <Jucato> "eye candy causes ocular cavities" == eye candy burns holes in your eyes? :P
[06:22] <towync> yeah prolly, cuz i'd be staring at them for prolonged periods of time
[06:23] <towync> is there someone to change the look of kopete window? some other people have colorful skins =)
[06:23] <towync> even their scroll bar is colored, although i'm not too into that lol
[06:24] <tony__> towync: they may be using a kde theme, not sure
[06:25] <towync> tony_ cool thx
[06:25] <towync> do u actually see your name highlighted when i type your name before msgs?
[06:25] <towync> cuz it keeps showing up as plain black on my screen
[06:25] <tony__> towync: not to say there's not a way besides a kde theme, wouldn't mind myself but too busy to look into it
[06:26] <towync> yeah i should be studying for midterms + finals
[06:26] <tony__> yeah, shows up as red
[06:26] <towync> cool =)
[06:26] <towync> just making sure it works
[06:27] <tony__> towync: there's also konversation themes you can add. kde-look.org has lots of them
[06:27] <towync> o cool, thx so much, i'll look into that
[06:28] <Jucato> tony__: konversation themes? you mean kopete, don't you?
[06:28] <towync> i want both =)
[06:29] <towync> i'm still configuring everything, it's facinating, tho a bit too time consuming as well lol
[06:29] <Jucato> there are no "themes" for Konversation
[06:29] <towync> o
[06:29] <towync> i meant as much as i can get then hehe
[06:29] <tony__> Jucato: no, there's lots of different themes for kde apps
[06:30] <majnoon> <<< getting this :( klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.
[06:30] <towync> sweet, i like the kopete styles!
[06:30] <tony__> Jucato: smiley themes, i know, not much though
[06:30] <Jucato> tony__: not the same kind themes as Kopete
[06:30] <Jucato> Konversation doesn't have themes. only nicklist themes
[06:30] <majnoon> try themes.org
[06:31] <towync> tsk, darn it, i g2g study, thx so much for the help everyone tony jucato  majnoon ( if u were talking to me just now with themes. org, i sure will go look even if u weren't talking to me), tho i hoped I could have contributed more, but that'll take awhile till i get used to all this =) see y'all
[06:32] <majnoon> Jucato: what this do ?? apt-get -u dist-upgrade | grep ^' ' | xargs apt-get -y install
[06:32] <Jucato> majnoon: it upgrades anything else that was left out
[06:32] <flaccid> !utc
[06:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about utc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <majnoon> not sure but not much left me think
[06:33] <FreddyM> flaccid: worldtimeserver.com
[06:33] <flaccid> FreddyM: huh?
[06:33] <flaccid> i want to disable utc
[06:34] <majnoon> how fix this ??/
[06:34] <majnoon> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[06:34] <majnoon>  klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.
[06:34] <majnoon>  .
[06:34] <FreddyM> sorrt thought you meant universal time...
[06:35] <flaccid> i do mean that
[06:35] <majnoon> Jucato: how fix klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'. ??
[06:35] <majnoon> for konquror
[06:35] <Jucato> not really sure
[06:36] <majnoon> apt-get -u dist-upgrade | grep ^' ' | xargs apt-get -y install not showing ANYTHING
[06:37] <majnoon> it doing SOMETHING not showing anything though
[06:39] <majnoon> took away from grep on NOW it doing something
[06:39] <Quozl> Pardon me, autojoined without knowing it.
[06:41] <flaccid> yeah thats not the best technique in the kubuntu wiki entry, majnoon
[06:41] <Jucato> unfortunately, that's the one that works...
[06:42] <majnoon> flaccid:  how fix klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'. ??
[06:42] <nata1> how come it takes ages and forever to switch to administrationconsole in kde systempreferences?
[06:42] <flaccid> that could be anything majnoon
[06:42] <majnoon> !kio
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <majnoon> trying to get webpages in konquror
[06:43] <flaccid> majnoon: yeah i've had it before
[06:43] <flaccid> not much you can do
[06:44] <flaccid> besides bug the devs
[06:44] <towync> hi
[06:45] <towync> i'm back again =)
[06:45] <majnoon> trying to reinstall kdebase-kio-plugins
[06:45] <Jucato> majnoon: that may be unnecessary...
[06:45] <Jucato> you might want to try waiting after a reboot/restart
[06:46] <Jucato> it might be caused by the upgrading process
[06:46] <majnoon> ok installing firefox (just incase)
[06:46] <Jucato> oh, is there an app which allows a user to create, edit, and view MoinMoin wiki pages locally/offline?
[06:47] <majnoon> apache ??
[06:48] <towync> Jucato: hello =), do you know how I can install the kopete theme I just downloaded?
[06:49] <towync> i downloaded a .tar.gz file and i unzipped it
[06:49] <FreddyM> Jucato: popular guy today huh?
[06:49] <towync> but I'm not too sure how to apply the changes
[06:49] <towync> hehe
[06:49] <Jucato> FreddyM: heh... :)
[06:49] <towync> he helps alot :0)
[06:49] <Jucato> towync: Kopete -> Settings -> Configure... -> Appearance -> Chat Window -> Install...
[06:50] <towync> yay thx so much =)
[06:50] <majnoon> ok WISH ME LUCK
[06:50] <towync> good luck, hope everything works out with no errors =)
[06:50] <FreddyM> Jucato: it's Admiral_Chicago btw, i'm using a liveCD in a computer lab. don't want to use Microsoft
[06:51] <Jucato> heh I know who you are :P
[06:52] <mortici> how do i throttle up my laptops cpu?
[06:54] <majnoon> !repos
[06:54] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:55] <majnoon> THAT WORKS
[06:55] <Jucato> O.o
[06:55] <mortici> ?
[06:55] <Jucato> majnoon: you can check if you've fully upgraded to Edgy by typing "lsb_release -a" in Konsole
[06:55] <Jucato> to check if you've upgraded to KDE 3.5.5, go to Help -> About KDE in any KDE app
[06:57] <majnoon> No LSB modules are available.
[06:57] <majnoon> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[06:57] <majnoon> Description:    Ubuntu 6.10
[06:57] <majnoon> Release:        6.10
[06:57] <majnoon> Codename:       edgy
[06:57] <majnoon> that right ??
[06:57] <Jucato> er.. next time use !pastebin, ok? :)
[06:57] <Jucato> yes that's right
[06:57] <majnoon> ok SORRY
[06:57] <towync> just testing to see what !pastebin is, so you don't have to type again =)
[06:57] <towync> !pastebin
[06:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:58] <Jucato> no need to shout majnoon
[06:58] <towync> sorry
[06:58] <Jucato> ?
[06:58] <towync> i just wanted to see what it was =)
[06:58] <Jucato> it's ok
[06:58] <towync> o i thought u said i was shouting =)
[06:59] <towync> does anyone (yes, you lol) know how I can make Konsole transparent to the background?
[06:59] <towync> like how they do in this link: does anyone (yes I'm thinking Jucato) know how I can make Konsole transparent to the background?
[06:59] <towync> oops
[06:59] <towync> sorry i tought i pasted link
[06:59] <Jucato> lol
[06:59] <towync> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=48004
[07:00] <towync> there =)
[07:00] <tony134340> Jucato, yes, there's a plugin that can do it, forgot the name/link though
[07:00] <majnoon> where get tv software ??
[07:00] <towync> lol
[07:00] <towync> ty =)
[07:01] <majnoon> !xawtv
[07:01] <ubotu> xawtv: X11 TV application. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.95-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 227 kB, installed size 656 kB
[07:01] <towync> i'll try fetch it somewhere
[07:01] <Jucato> tony134340: plugin?
[07:01] <tony134340> i've tried xawtv but like tvtime much better
[07:02] <Jucato> towync: Konsole -> Settings menu -> Schema -> Transparent Konsole
[07:02] <Jucato> towync: if you want to make changes stick, Settings -> Save as Default
[07:02] <tony134340> towync, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=48303
[07:02] <towync> cool thank you =)
[07:03] <Jucato> tony134340: that wasn't even true transparency in the link towync gave
[07:03] <majnoon> but where get tony134340 ??
[07:03] <tony134340> in case you didn't know, i am tony_, i'm just trying xchat so got a different nick
[07:03] <towync> welcome back =)
[07:03] <majnoon> !radio
[07:03] <ubotu> radio: ncurses-based radio application. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.95-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 84 kB
[07:03] <Jucato> tony134340: do you realize that the "plugin" you just linked to requires XGL/Beryl?
[07:04] <majnoon> Jucato: where get radio: ncurses-based radio application. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.95-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 84 kB ??
[07:04] <towync> ooo i hate xgl/beryl now =) i can never get that to work lol
[07:04] <tony134340> Jucato, sorry, i'm busy and didn't take time to check but i thought i remembered there being one without beryl
[07:04] <towync> just waiting for feisty =)
[07:05] <majnoon> !codecs
[07:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:05] <Jucato> tony134340:  you can have pseudo-transparency with Konsole, without any plugins
[07:05] <Jucato> majnoon: install it from Add/Remove Programs (check the "unsupported" box) or from Adept Manager
[07:05] <tony134340> Jucato, i know. there's also a console on kde-look that has true transparency without beryl
[07:05] <majnoon> ok will check
[07:06] <FlameMaster> hey, anyone here that listens to TTA (The True Audio, lossless codec) files? Do you know of any player with support for it? Because amarok (xine) doesn't (it seems)
[07:07] <SAngeli> Hi, can anybody please help me with k3b? I am unable to write dvd with +R? Anytyime I put a blank DVD in it does not like it and asks for an empty one. What to do?
[07:08] <FlameMaster> SAngeli: download Nero linux?
[07:09] <SAngeli> ok
[07:09] <SAngeli> tks
[07:10] <towync> cool i got konsole transparent
[07:11] <towync> well that was awhile ago but I thought I'd report progress lol
[07:11] <towync> =)
[07:11] <tony134340> towync, you could try yakuake for transparency
[07:12] <Jucato> :)
[07:12] <towync> o okies
[07:12] <towync> !yakuake
[07:12] <ubotu> yakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB
[07:12] <Jucato> yakuake uses Konsole settings, so that would be easy
[07:12] <towync> nice, thx alot =)
[07:12] <towync> o tony134340, I bookmarked your link as well =) one day, one day, one day when I have beryl set up after the finals, I'll most likely get to use that link =) thx
[07:13] <towync> that one day hopefully comes before feisty release lol
[07:13] <towync> anyways =)
[07:15] <majnoon> me THIN i found
[07:17] <Kiongku> !gnome
[07:17] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[07:18] <dan__> does anyone know if i can re-partition my hard drive without losing my data
[07:19] <tony134340> dan__, none are perfectly fail safe but nothing you usually have to worry about
[07:19] <dan__> so if i just run qtparted i should be ok?
[07:19] <tony134340> dan__, i've had good luck with gparted
[07:19] <tony134340> yeah, i wouldn't worry
[07:19] <dan__> nice ok thanx
[07:20] <tony134340> np
[07:20] <FlameMaster> dan__: I always ask for someone to lent me a external hd, backup all my stuff, then format
[07:21] <FlameMaster> I have installed kubuntu, mandriva, centos on the same drive (with a pair of ntfs volumes on that drive) a dozen times and I have not screwed up so far
[07:23] <tony134340> FlameMaster, me neither except when using partition magic a few years ago, it went kaput in the middle of partitioning
[07:24] <tony134340> except then i wasn't tech'ed enough to know i could recover it so it was gone
[07:25] <towync> does any one know how I can make Konqueror look like the one in the link http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=48004
[07:25] <towync> not the german part of course, but the lay out and the window transparency look =) thx in advance =)
[07:26] <Jucato> towync: afaik, it is using the Crystal window decoration with Enable transparency turned on
[07:27] <Jucato> I'm not sure what the widget style is
[07:27] <flaccid> jucato is the theme spotter master
[07:27] <Jucato> lol
[07:27] <Jucato> not really. Crystal is the only windeco I know that allows transparent borders
[07:28] <SAngeli> how to download nero for linux?
[07:28] <SAngeli> I do not see it in adept
[07:28] <tony134340> Jucato, yeah, i use it but the transparency seemed a bit buggy when i allow the transparency
[07:28] <Jucato> SAngeli: from the nerolinux website?
[07:30] <SAngeli> jes, but I have never installed an apps on kubuntu. I see at http://www.nero.com/eng/nerolinux-prog.html that I can download one of the two files. I assume this  downlaod NeroLINUX rpm trial version here is what I wish. right?
[07:30] <towync> Jucato: hehe thx alot, sorry i was afk for a bit talking to parents =)
[07:31] <SAngeli> Jucato, I finished to download it. Now, how to install it?
[07:31] <Jucato> no, not the .rpm
[07:31] <Jucato> SAngeli: download the DEB one
[07:32] <SAngeli> ok will now
[07:32] <SAngeli> then? Do I just click on it?
[07:32] <dan__> how do i go about re=partioning my hard drive
[07:33] <Jucato> SAngeli: right-click -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install package
[07:34] <SAngeli> sorry Jucato where do I have to save the downloaded file?
[07:34] <Jucato> SAngeli: anywhere you like
[07:35] <towync> Jucato: so I just googled a bit and it says crystal window is already shipped with edgy, thank god lol, so how do I turn it on and activate its transparency?
[07:35] <SAngeli> done
[07:35] <Jucato> towync: it's already on. it's the one you are using by default
[07:35] <Jucato> towync: go to System Settings -> Appearance -> Window Decoration
[07:35] <towync> ah ok, thx alot
[07:35] <SAngeli> Jucato, thank you . i did it
[07:36] <Jucato> Background tab -> Enable transparency...
[07:36] <dan__> can someone tell me how i can repartition my hard drive without formating
[07:36] <towync> cool, *trying it out*
[07:37] <gator> sorry to but in guys - bran spankin noob here - Ive been working 3 day after work to get online with my usb wireless adapter - just got it working and frankly I had to tell someone...anywho how yall doin?
[07:38] <Hansy> hi guys!!
[07:38] <FlameMaster> gator: 'grats
[07:38] <notech> gator: well, glad you got it working :)
[07:39] <Hansy> i'm trying to install Kubuntu 6.10 on my new PC, but it won't detect the SATA drive - can anyne help?
[07:39] <gator> ty-s
[07:39] <Hansy> i have a Sapphire Pure Performance motherboard
[07:40] <notech> Hansy: new pc? is sata enabled in the bios?
[07:40] <Hansy> yes i tried as IDE, SATA and RAID no luck
[07:40] <SAngeli> Jucato, thank you I am burning it now. I wonder how come k3b does not work where instead nero does?
[07:41] <notech> Hansy: sorry, i've never had sata yet
[07:41] <Jucato> SAngeli: I wouldn't really know... :)
[07:41] <Hansy> in fact i lie my options were only RAID, IDE and some ther thingie
[07:42] <Hansy> k well lemme try again.
[07:44] <tony134340> !list
[07:44] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:44] <tony134340> anyone know how to get a user list with xchat? is there a certain command?
[07:44] <notech> Hansy: Asus motherboard?
[07:45] <notech> tony134340: you mean like /who ?
[07:45] <towync> i think i settled with kopete =) after i accepted how it looked lol
[07:45] <tony134340> notech: yeah, i guess. i'm new to irc and xchat doesn't show a user list like konversation
[07:46] <notech> tony134340: oh, try grabbing it on the right side and drag left
[07:46] <SAngeli> Jucato, thank you. Have a nice day
[07:46] <Jucato> SAngeli: you're welcome
[07:47] <towync> =)
[07:47] <tony134340> notech: oh, ok. thanks. it was there, just smunched up
[07:47] <notech> tony134340: yep, same happened to me :)
[07:47] <towync> do you know to change font color for konsole?
[07:47] <towync> i tried settings -> configure console ->
[07:48] <towync> schema
[07:48] <tony134340> notech: why is the kick option there? and what are the repurcussions if i kick someone out? lol
[07:48] <towync> then -> shell color but it wouldn't let me save =)
[07:48] <notech> tony134340: it'll tell you that you can't. you can hide that with a setting in preferences
[07:49] <tony134340> notech: cool, i like this a little better than konversation although the color scheme's not as readable to me
[07:50] <notech> tony134340: you can change text colors and things in preferences as well. i tend to change the overall look with gtk themes
[07:51] <notech> tony134340: sorry, the kick and other buttons were under settings > advanced
[07:52] <notech> heh, no. sorry, that was to alter the commands
[07:53] <tony134340> notech: yeah, i noticed. i'm gonna check for some themes for it
[07:54] <notech> tony134340: losing my mind, those buttons are under the 'view' menu item
[07:55] <computer__> does anyone know how to have konqueror start as the one in here: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=48004
[07:55] <computer__> my konqueror starts looking pretty ugly, with light blue background etc etc
[07:56] <tony134340> notech: i don't seem to have a minimize button like konversation, is this normal?
[07:56] <computer__> i have a minimaize button
[07:56] <towync> i have a minimize button =
[07:56] <towync> =)
[07:56] <tony134340> notech: the blinking icon in konv. was useful
[07:56] <notech> tony134340: should have all 3, min/max/x
[07:57] <tony134340> i mean, a minimized icon
[07:57] <towync> o
[07:57] <notech> tony134340: oh, dunno. i use fluxbox so no icons
[07:57] <towync> !fluxbox
[07:57] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[07:57] <towync> i have minimized icon in my non fluxbox setup i think
[07:58] <towync> it minimize to tray like any web page would
[07:58] <notech> tony134340: it shows in the taskbar doesn't it?
[07:58] <notech> tony134340: maybe i don't know what you mean by minimized icon
[07:59] <naddar> anyone can help me with folow problem
[07:59] <naddar> i have at home a router and my win pc can perfect internet.
[07:59] <tony134340> notech: i don't have a taskbar, i use the application switcher
[07:59] <naddar> here at my work my kubuntu works fine, when i go home and i add my kubuntu on my router i cant internet
[08:00] <naddar> anyone?
[08:00] <notech> naddar: does your win box get its ip address by dhcp?
[08:00] <tony134340> someone help this man internet
[08:01] <naddar> yup
[08:01] <naddar> and strange thing is i can reach my router with my kubuntu
[08:02] <notech> naddar: did you configure the interface on kubuntu to get its ip address by dhcp?
[08:02] <musya> naddar: can you please explain what you are trying to do more clearly please?
[08:02] <naddar> ok
[08:02] <naddar> so i have a router, when i connect my cable to the router i get a IP
[08:02] <naddar> i can reach the webpage from my router
[08:03] <naddar> when i try to surf or chat or anything on the net it dont works
[08:03] <naddar> when i start my windows on the same router it works fine
[08:04] <musya> what if you connect directly to the internet without your router can you surf and such?
[08:04] <notech> can you ping any outside ip addresses?
[08:04] <Morg`> hi
[08:04] <Morg`> I have a question
[08:04] <Morg`> about Kubuntu
[08:04] <naddar> i gues its a route problem but why i can reach the url then
[08:05] <Morg`> I've never installed an OS before and I don't know how to burn the cd
[08:05] <Morg`> as a data CD or as bootCD
[08:05] <notech> naddar: you reach the router by ip address and not url, right?
[08:06] <naddar> Morg`: you like to burn the kubuntu cd and start up with that right
[08:06] <notech> Morg`: normally as an iso image
[08:06] <naddar> notech: i can reach the url yeah
[08:06] <naddar> Morg`: you have windows on your pc right
[08:06] <Morg`> yes, I know it should be like an image, but should it be a bootable CD
[08:06] <Morg`> yes
[08:06] <Morg`> I have an XP
[08:07] <naddar> Morg`: install burnatonce search for it in google (its free) and there open image burn the kubuntu cd boot and have fun
[08:07] <notech> naddar: can you ping 66.102.7.147, which is a google ip address?
[08:07] <naddar> nope
[08:07] <Morg`> ok, 10x a lot :)
[08:07] <naddar> notech: no i can't ping do a tracert ect
[08:08] <notech> naddar: yeah, sounds like a router config issue then. probably need to check the routers as all routers are a bit different
[08:08] <notech> routers docs
[08:09] <naddar> gone check it tongiht again, lol
[08:09] <naddar> yeah gone search for it, 1 thing i learn in linux READING :)
[08:09] <naddar> but its fun
[08:09] <notech> but this isn'r linux reading now :)
[08:09] <notech> typo's
[08:10] <musya> naddar: what type of router do you have?
[08:10] <naddar> musya: its a router & print server from sweex
[08:10] <naddar> but i have a few other here at my work gone check once that
[08:10] <naddar> and try :)
[08:10] <naddar> i borrow here 1 :)
[08:10] <notech> i use a cisco router so i know its nothing like mine to configure. heh
[08:11] <RoKFiT> does anyone know if i can upload songs to an mp3 player phone through USB?
[08:12] <naddar> RoKFiT: did you read the manual? what phone you have?
[08:12] <musya> naddar: i have never used there routers but login to you router and see if the virtual server or firewall is blocking your ip address. and can  you connect if you connect directly to your computer not through the router.,
[08:12] <RoKFiT> nokia
[08:12] <RoKFiT> the guy in the shop said windows
[08:13] <RoKFiT> can it hurt to plug it in?
[08:13] <notech> never tried a phone, but try 'tail -f /var/log/messages' then plug it in and see if it gets recognized and assigned a /dev/
[08:13] <naddar> musya: here at my work it have security chap and pap so have to go to a url to get internet access
[08:13] <RoKFiT> doesn't linux auto-detect usb?
[08:13] <notech> shouldn't be able to hurt it by plugging it into a usb port
[08:14] <RoKFiT> but does kde auto detect usb?
[08:14] <naddar> that can be the problem to that my kubuntu things that i'ml here at my work
[08:14] <musya> wait your not at work?
[08:14] <musya> but your using your work computer right?
[08:14] <naddar> now i am, :)
[08:15] <musya> is your work on dhcp?
[08:15] <musya> or static ips
[08:15] <naddar> yeah but its my own installation of kubuntu :) i'm the administrator here :)
[08:15] <naddar> dhcp
[08:15] <notech> RoKFiT: it should, by theory anyway ;)
[08:15] <musya> right but is your kubuntu on dhcp or static?
[08:16] <naddar> RoKFiT: the best thing you can do is check some forums google for it and you will find a ms soft or a linux soft that works for that
[08:16] <naddar> dhcp
[08:16] <naddar> musya: my kubuntu is on dhcp
[08:16] <musya> whats your ip?
[08:17] <notech> naddar: does ifconfig show it getting a valid ip for your LAN?
[08:18] <musya> naddar: how are you connected now?
[08:18] <naddar> notech: I get IP GATEWAY ECT all normall
[08:19] <naddar> but i will check the config once of the router, i gues it only can be a firewall problem
[08:19] <notech> can the win box ping the kubuntu box?
[08:20] <musya> i think it is a problem with your router connect and see.
[08:20] <naddar> yeah anyway thanks for the info guy's
[08:21] <naddar> A complete other question, somebody know a good tool to shrink dvd's in linux :)
[08:21] <notech> what router model number?
[08:23] <FreddyM> what command can i run to see what printers I have?
[08:23] <FreddyM> I'm looking at this "Canon" but i want to know the model number if possible
[08:23] <RoKFiT> well that sucks
[08:24] <musya> naddar: what do you mean shrink dvds? what type of dvds
[08:24] <naddar> notech: i'm at work at the moment i can't check that. Sorry thanks anyway to help
[08:24] <naddar> movies 8gb into 4gb
[08:24] <notech> FreddyM: can't physically look at the printer to get its model number off of it?
[08:25] <notech> naddar: ok
[08:25] <FreddyM> notech: i would, but i'm in a large building and I don't know where they are
[08:25] <musya> hmmmm
[08:25] <naddar> musya: linke dvdschrink in ms world :)
[08:25] <FreddyM> i can find the printer by model number though
[08:25] <musya> i dont know of a program in linux but i can do it in windows
[08:26] <naddar> musya: ok gues its more easy for that to do it in windows.
[08:26] <RoKFiT> how do i make directory as root
[08:26] <musya> i get delayed responses from my keyboard and mouse to my screen sometimes do you guys know why that is? the keyboard or the video card, im running it off of the motherboard right now.
[08:27] <musya> RoKFiT: sudo mkdir
[08:27] <notech> FreddyM: nothing that i know of unless they put its model in as a comment or share name, assuming its a windows shared printer
[08:27] <notech> naddar: k9copy or xdvdshrink, if kubuntu has them
[08:27] <musya> naddar: i dont know if you got my messge...i have a thing come up about private messagging
[08:27] <FreddyM> notech: no it's not, thanks anywyat
[08:28] <naddar> musya: no i diddent get a message.
[08:29] <musya> yea i havent registered my private messaging, do you have yahoo or msn or anything
[08:30] <musya> notech: i didnt know linux has dvdshrink...wow
[08:30] <notech> i use both on my other linux distro box
[08:30] <RoKFiT> okay it gets recognized as a ttyACM0 USB ACM device
[08:31] <RoKFiT> any ideas?
[08:32] <naddar> musya: yup have msn aol uh more? :)
[08:32] <musya> whats your msn?
[08:35] <Vge> Hi, how do i modify file in kubuntu install if i cant login?
[08:35] <Vge> i was so darn good with ldap it prevents me from login
[08:38] <Vge> anyone?
[08:38] <musya> Vge: what is your problem again?
[08:40] <Vge> naah, after like 20 mins waiting the OS let me boot on root without asking a password, let me see if i can alter the "messed up" file
[08:41] <Vge> musya: or, can you paste  uptill "shadow" line from /etc/nsswitch.conf
[08:42] <Vge> didin
[08:42] <Vge> t took a backup from what was there :)
[08:42] <musya> i have never dealt with that, so i dont knwo how to really help you.....sorry...
[08:43] <Vge> musya: i'm just asking what reads after passwd: in /etc/nsswitch.conf ?
[08:44] <Vge> i changed it to "files ldap", but my system was not really ready for it ^^
[08:45] <notech> i'm not on kubuntu so not sure its the same, but i have... passwd: files compat
[08:45] <musya> let me see
[08:46] <musya> Vge: says compact
[08:46] <notech> compact or compat ?
[08:47] <notech> musya: ^
[08:47] <musya> sorry compat
[08:47] <Vge> ya?
[08:47] <musya> yes
[08:47] <musya> do you want me to send the whole thing to you?
[08:47] <Vge> would be cool
[08:47] <musya> how do you select all in nano?
[08:48] <notech> i don't know nano
[08:48] <Vge> hmm, select only to "shadow" i have rest normal
[08:49] <morghanphoenix> Anyone know the konqueror package I need to right click and extract archives?
[08:51] <musya> Vge: ok go here. http://64.185.115.16/nsswitch.conf
[08:51] <musya> heres the whole file
[08:52] <Vge> guess ill try that, ty
[08:52] <Vge> but knowing nothing about subject, they go in order from left to right
[08:52] <Vge> "more options"
[08:53] <musya> what?
[08:53] <Vge> so files would not hurt there i guess as notech had
[08:53] <musya> what?
[08:53] <musya> what do  you mean you confused me a bit
[08:54] <Vge> "crosses fingers and boots"
[08:54] <musya> did it work?
[08:54] <notech> Vge: should probably use what kubuntu normally has as musya showed
[08:55] <musya> anything else you need?
[08:55] <Vge> musya: nope, boot's perfectly, ty
[08:55] <musya> i was gonna go hop in the shower and eat a bit before bed, ill leave my computer on so you can look at the file if need be
[08:56] <musya> ok, good, ill see you guys in a bit
[08:56] <Vge> or, someone can help me to configure apache2 to use ldap calls?
[08:58] <musya> what are idap calls?
[08:58] <musya> if you dont mind me asking
[09:01] <Vge> musya: well large companys use Ldap servers to handle user auth and storing information from those, kinda like passwd file but more in detail
[09:02] <Vge> !ldap
[09:02] <ubotu> LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information and installation instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[09:02] <musya> oh, cool, ive been trying to get something like that on my computer to protect my directories.
[09:03] <musya> hey how do you put kubuntu on standby?
[09:03] <musya> after switching to kde i havent been able to find that option
[09:09] <clot> Well... I'm in Kubuntu for the first time... installing atm... easy up till now ;)
[09:16] <tibbar> where can I find konqueror's cache?
[09:19] <tibbar> where can I find konqueror's cache?\
[09:19] <clot> Is the user I made the ROOT user ?
[09:21] <Jucato> !sudo | clot
[09:21] <ubotu> clot: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:22] <clot> thanks m8!
[09:22] <tibbar> where can I find konqueror's cache?
[09:26] <clot> Where and how can I find my NTFS partitions ? And mount them ?
[09:26] <musya> does anybody know?
[09:26] <noiesmo> tibbar, look in ~/.kde/cache-
[09:26] <clot> not used linux in... 5 years?
[09:26] <musya> how to put it on standby ?
[09:26] <tibbar> noiesmo: ty
[09:27] <Jucato> !ntfs | clot
[09:27] <ubotu> clot: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:40] <kalmah> Hello, how can i make my mounted win partition available to my non-root user? When i mount it gets r-x root only
[09:43] <musya> how do you put kubuntu to sleep?
[09:45] <kelvie> Is it possible to set up options for each extra kicker panel?
[09:45] <kelvie> I use Edgy, and I recall being able to do this on another distro
[09:45] <kelvie> there's no drop down box for each panel on here though :/
[09:45] <jbruckman> sorry can't help...
[09:46] <Jucato> kelvie: it's a KDE 3.5.5 bug. restart kicker by pressing Alt+F2 and entering: kdcop kicker kicker restart
[09:46] <Jucato> you'll see the drop down list after restarting
[09:46] <Jucato> restarting kicker
[09:46] <kelvie> Jucato: er alt-f2 is run?
[09:46] <kelvie> I rebound that key
[09:46] <jbruckman> does anyone know anything about mythtv?
[09:46] <Jucato> kelvie: yeah
[09:46] <Jucato> you can also do it Konsole
[09:47] <kelvie> Jucato: yeah :p
[09:47] <kelvie> that command gives me an error
[09:47] <kelvie> sure you typed it right? :o
[09:47] <Jucato> er sorry
[09:47] <Jucato> dcop kicker kicker restart
[09:47] <kelvie> awesome :p
[09:48] <kelvie> Oh, and is there a way to make kicker panels taller without increasing button size?
[09:48] <Jucato> not that I'm aware of
[09:49] <kelvie> Jucato: hrm, alright, thanks
[09:49] <Kruncik> hello
[09:49] <Kruncik> all
[09:49] <jbruckman> they only follow the size to a point, after that they stop growing.
[09:50] <jbruckman> but they get pretty huge, so it's kind of a moot point
[09:50] <kelvie> Yeah :/
[09:51] <Kream> Linux awaaz 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:45:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:53] <klerfayt> what's the short command to chat privately in irc?
[09:55] <Jucato> klerfayt: /msg <nick>
[09:59] <klerfayt> what does "ibm_acpi: ec object not found" in dmesg?
[10:00] <naddar> anyone can tell me a good spam filter for my linux server (firewall)
[10:01] <llutz> naddar: spamassassin
[10:02] <naddar> llutz: is it good?
[10:02] <llutz> naddar: it's widely used and seems to work fine if correctly configured
[10:03] <naddar> llutz: thanks i will check the site once for this
[10:03] <rgourchene> hi every body
[10:04] <rgourchene> has anybody already used apache xml rpc API?
[10:04] <naddar> rgourchene: hi
[10:05] <rgourchene> hi
[10:06] <rgourchene> has anybody already used apache xml rpc API?
[10:15] <naddar> rgourchene: me no :(
[10:15] <rgourchene> no pb, man
[10:22] <fek> moin
[10:22] <khymon> hi!
[10:32] <khymon> anybody here which knows about cryptsetup problems under edgy?
[10:38] <kalmah> Hi, do i need to do anything special to enable mp3s to play? neither media player installed with kubuntu is playing my mp3 files
[10:40] <Vge> kalmah: start amarok and it should ask for "do you want to install mp3 support"
[10:41] <eloquence_> same here
[10:43] <scythe_lap> does anyone know, how to get maybe the last x messages from a newsgroup in knode? it only downloads the postings of the day :/
[10:43] <scythe_lap> and, hi :)
[10:48] <eloquence_> what's the command in console to ssses are running?ee what proce
[10:48] <eloquence_> to see what processes ar running*
[10:48] <eloquence_> and it's kill -9 <pid> to kill it right?
[10:48] <Jucato> ps
[10:48] <eloquence_> right .. k thanks
[10:51] <chx> after doing an apt-get install j2re1.4 konq still refuses to run my internet bank
[10:52] <chx> what else I need to do?
[10:53] <eloquence_> how can i tell kubuntu to look at my kubuntu cd for amarok
[10:53] <eloquence_> rather than getting it from the net
[10:54] <chx> mmm nevermind, changing the path from java to /usr/bin/java did the trick
[10:56] <thomas> hallo
[10:57] <thomas> is somebody her?
[10:57] <thomas> i have an problem with my keyboard
[10:57] <thomas> on kubunto
[10:57] <thomas> it doesnt work
[11:04] <tommy> hello
[11:04] <tommy> nmap says EVERY ip i scan is up
[11:04] <tommy> is it bugged ?
[11:04] <tommy> Starting Nmap 4.10 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2006-12-05 10:59 CET
[11:04] <tommy> Host 99.99.99.99 appears to be up.
[11:08] <Ash-Fox> tommy, 255.255.255.255 ?
[11:08] <tommy> all
[11:08] <tommy> they are ALL up
[11:09] <Ash-Fox> I am asking about 255.255.255.255 in particular
[11:10] <tommy> no that one is down
[11:10] <tommy> strange
[11:10] <tommy> cause i can type in any ip i want
[11:10] <Ash-Fox> tommy, what about 244.0.0.1 ?
[11:11] <tommy> it says Strange read error from 244.0.0.1: Transport endpoint is not connected
[11:11] <Ash-Fox> Okay. well, it could be iptables redirecting traffic for some reason, or your gateway computer.
[11:12] <Kabal> Is there a good alternative for Windows Movie Maker?? I use Kubuntu 6.10
[11:12] <Ash-Fox> This is usually done by trasparent/passive proxies on a network.
[11:12] <Ash-Fox> Kabal, not that I'm aware of.
[11:12] <Kabal> Ash-Fox: not any?
[11:13] <Kabal> Or a good alternative for (win) Irfanview ?
[11:13] <Ash-Fox> Kabal, as I said, not that I know of. There could be, but I don't know them. If you find one, please let me know :P
[11:13] <Ash-Fox> I use gwenview
[11:13] <Ash-Fox> it integrates directly into konqueror with the preview option :)
[11:13] <tommy> hmm
[11:14] <Ash-Fox> has next/forward buttons too, image conversion support.
[11:14] <Kabal> Ash-Fox: I use gwenview too..(great soft) but it lacks so much functionality :(
[11:14] <tommy> Ash-Fox: is there anything i can do ?
[11:15] <Kabal> I'm searching my #ss off here for a Movie Maker alternative.. but if I find one.. I'll let ya know
[11:15] <Ash-Fox> tommy, like what? If you want to find what truely is using IPs on the network, 'ip -a'
[11:15] <Ash-Fox> err 'arp -a'
[11:15] <Jucato> a lot of gwenviews power could be "unlocked" by installing kipi-plugins
[11:16] <Jucato> !kino
[11:16] <ubotu> kino: Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 0.90-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1093 kB, installed size 3860 kB
[11:16] <Kabal> Jucato: kipi-plugins?
[11:16] <Ash-Fox> kino is a DVD-DV editor..
[11:16] <Ash-Fox> DVI or whatever you call it
[11:16] <Jucato> hm.. I wonder if we have virtualdub in the repos
[11:16] <Jucato> !virtualdub
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtualdub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <Jucato> nah
[11:17] <Ash-Fox> :/
[11:17] <Jucato> !kipi-plugins
[11:17] <ubotu> kipi-plugins: image manipulation/handling plugins for KIPI aware programs. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1.2-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2347 kB, installed size 9060 kB
[11:17] <Jucato> but they're for images mainly
[11:17] <Ash-Fox> I have tried using Kino in the past, but it can't even open most movie formats. It's funny because there are so many libraries on linux available that could be used to make a movie editor.
[11:18] <tommy> Ash-Fox: but when i do a ping i get the correct info
[11:18] <tommy> its only nmap that is buggy
[11:18] <Kabal> Ash-Fox: thanx I for the plugin tip.. will try it out :)
[11:19] <Ash-Fox> tommy, arp -a, and nmap relies on if a tcp socket connection is open.
[11:19] <Ash-Fox> tommy, if you have a transparent/passive proxy, it will always that some socket is open.
[11:22] <tommy> ic
[11:22] <momal> Does anyone know how I might beable to get libc6 >= 2.5 | I have edgy, and im after liblua5.1 but it needs libc6 >= 2.5 and I have 2.4 and there isn't any packages I can find for it.
[11:23] <xavier_> salut a tous
[11:23] <tommy> tnx for the info
[11:24] <momal> !info liblua5.1
[11:24] <ubotu> Package liblua5.1 does not exist in any distro I know
[11:24] <momal> !liblua5.1
[11:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about liblua5.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <momal> !info libc65
[11:25] <ubotu> Package libc65 does not exist in any distro I know
[11:25] <momal> !info libc6
[11:25] <ubotu> libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.4-1ubuntu12 (edgy), package size 4032 kB, installed size 9988 kB
[11:33] <Voker57> hi, can you help me? I have some problems with nvidia drivers
[11:34] <Voker57> X throws me back to login screen
[11:34] <Voker57> again and again
[11:35] <Voker57> heeelp
[11:39] <tony134340> how do i use a program from apt-get install when it leaves no shortcut anywhere?
[11:39] <Voker57> tye its name in Konsole
[11:39] <Voker57> *type
[11:39] <tony134340> it didn't work
[11:40] <tony134340> alsa-tools-gui doesn't work
[11:40] <Voker57> hmm
[11:40] <tony134340> it's done it for probably 1/8 of the files i've installed
[11:40] <intelikey> lets all just be brutally honest for one day and see if the world really ends like the liberals keep telling us it will if we are not diplomaticly polite and politicly correct...
[11:41] <intelikey> tony134340 alsa[tab] [tab] 
[11:42] <tony134340> intelikey: 218 possibilites
[11:43] <intelikey> so find the one you want among them
[11:43] <tony134340> i got it anyway. just used the adept gui. shows lots of info
[11:44] <tommy> Ash-Fox: now nmap works perfectly when i run it as root
[11:44] <intelikey> hmmm odd alsa[tab] [tab]   shows two things here.
[11:44] <intelikey> i can't believe that one package installed another 216 commands...
[11:46] <Voker57> is anyone to help me with nvidia drivers??
[11:46] <intelikey> !nv | Voker57
[11:46] <ubotu> Voker57: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:46] <intelikey> been there ^  ?
[11:46] <naddar> Voker57: what about
[11:47] <momal> Does anyone know how I might beable to get libc6 >= 2.5 | I have edgy, and im after liblua5.1 but it needs libc6 >= 2.5 and I have 2.4 and there isn't any packages I can find for it.
[11:47] <tony134340> intelikey: it's not, seems to give me all kinds of stuff unrelated to alsa
[11:47] <Voker57> [13:34:12]  <Voker57> X throws me back to login screen
[11:47] <Voker57> [13:34:18]  <Voker57> again and again
[11:48] <intelikey> tony134340 not putting a space in there are you ?
[11:48] <tony134340> yep
[11:48] <naddar> did you check the settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:48] <naddar> make sure your size is ok 1024 x ect
[11:49] <Voker57> naddar: yeah. I have even reverted it to backup
[11:49] <Voker57> it is stuck anyway
[11:49] <naddar> Voker57: strange
[11:49] <intelikey> tony134340 figures
[11:50] <intelikey> momal   /lib/libc.so.6 --version    what have you got ?
[11:50] <naddar> Voker57: i had that before to and just whas the settings i go lower and it worked
[11:50] <naddar> 780 X or something
[11:51] <momal> intelikey: GNU C Library development release version 2.4, by Roland McGrath et al.
[11:51] <naddar> intelikey: i have the same version as you asked
[11:51] <intelikey> naddar i didn't ask
[11:51] <intelikey> naddar page-up
[11:52] <momal> intelikey: liblua5.1/liblua5.1-dev need libc6 2.5 or higher and seems ubuntu only has 2.4 :(
[11:52] <momal> im on edgy as well
[11:52] <Voker57> naddar: yeah, it says something likesync overflow in logs. i'll try that
[11:52] <Voker57> naddar: where to change them in xorg.conf?
[11:53] <naddar> Voker57: normaly you should see something like subsection "display"
[11:53] <intelikey> momal i'd sujest you find another way.  you don't want to change libc6 unless it's an absolute nessecity
[11:54] <Voker57> hmm ok i will install something for viewing ext3 from win32 and see
[11:54] <momal> I need liblua5.1 or I can't compile a server.
[11:54] <intelikey> what server?
[11:55] <momal> there is no other way.. I need libc6 2.5 or have liblua5.1 install without needing libc6... otserv (open tibia)
[11:56] <naddar> Voker57: normaly its not that difficult, just try to find in google or somewhere the exact settings and add them in there.
[11:57] <intelikey> momal good luck with it then.
[11:57] <momal> bit stupid why i can't have libc6 2.5 ??
[11:58] <naddar> anyone know a good tool to change theme's in kde :) i never use kde so much :)
[11:58] <naddar> and a good site where i can get themes
[11:58] <intelikey> because it's too new,  as in not in the upstream repos yet
[12:00] <intelikey> momal you can check ubuntu+1  fisty  and see if it will have 2.5    but changing libc is a major change to the system.
[12:04] <intelikey> momal wait.  you said "or have liblua5.1"   you can   that's avalable in dapper...   liblua5.1-0 - Simple, extensible, embeddable programming language
[12:04] <intelikey> liblua5.1-0-dev - Simple, extensible, embeddable programming language
[12:05] <intelikey> !liblua5.1-0
[12:05] <ubotu> liblua5.1-0: Simple, extensible, embeddable programming language. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.1.1-2 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 204 kB
[12:05] <intelikey> it's in universe
[12:05] <intelikey> what's the problem with that ?
[12:06] <compilerwriter> Can anyone help me with my sound?  I have lost sound on my machine for some reason.
[12:06] <intelikey> !sound
[12:06] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:06] <momal> intelikey: how do i get it under edgy then? it doens't show up in reps :S
[12:06] <intelikey> try that DebuggingSoundProblems page compilerwriter
[12:07] <intelikey> momal did you not see what ubotu posted on it.  it's in the universe repo for edgy  look ^
[12:08] <intelikey> momal if you have universe enabled and your database up to date  it's avalable to you through your package manager
[12:09] <intelikey> !repos | momal
[12:09] <ubotu> momal: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:09] <momal> ahh... my sources file was screwed... installed it now.. lets see if this server compiles now
[12:09] <intelikey> you've been at this long enough now to know how to setup sources....   :)
[12:10] <momal> yea they get bugged everynow and again and i forgot them >_<
[12:10] <khymon> hi there!
[12:11] <khymon> anybody here who can help me with cryptsetup?
[12:11] <intelikey> so the correct diagknoses is pebcak
[12:14] <Ash-Fox> !Cinelerra
[12:14] <ubotu> cinelerra is a video editor and compositor. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[12:15] <Ash-Fox> I'm suprised that isn't packaged.
[12:15] <khymon> really nobody here able to help me with cryptsetup?
[12:15] <intelikey> khymon nope.
[12:15] <khymon> k
[12:16] <intelikey> at not if you don't ask a question, describe a problem; or explain a desired end result
[12:16] <intelikey> at least not
[12:17] <khymon> i am dealing with the bug known from https://launchpad.net/products/upstart/+bug/62751
[12:17] <intelikey> possably not if you do all the above.....
[12:17] <khymon> and i simply cant get it working...
[12:17] <eilker> how to open port 4662 ? (amule port)
[12:17] <szymon> jest ktos z polski???
[12:17] <intelikey> !po
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <intelikey> !pl
[12:18] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:18] <eilker> !tr
[12:18] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[12:19] <khymon> intelikey forget about it. i will reinstall dapper, it's really working. edgy seems to be a little bit built on the edge to me...
[12:22] <Ropechoborra> Hi, I'm trying to share my internet connection (with kubuntu edgy) to a Windows XP Laptop via LAN... I recive pings from the laptop but i cant access from it to my kubuntu pc.. any ideas?
[12:22] <Ropechoborra> It may be a Samba config problem...
[12:22] <Ropechoborra> Dont have much idea =(
[12:23] <_vge> !pastebin
[12:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:26] <VSpike> Is anyone else having big problems with bugs.kde.org?
[12:29] <momal> New error now.... /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -llualib5.1 | why would it be saying that If I have the lib installed and dev packages and that :S
[12:30] <intelikey> khymon
[12:30] <intelikey> impatients is mother
[12:31] <intelikey> impatients is the mother of destruction
[12:32] <intelikey> momal run sudo ldconfig     see if it helps
[12:32] <intelikey> probably wont but worth a try
[12:32] <intelikey> it's cheep wont cost much.
[12:33] <momal> nope didn't work :(
[12:33] <intelikey> didn't cost much to try...
[12:35] <intelikey> momal apt-cache search liblualib
[12:36] <nose> hello
[12:36] <momal> liblualib is only for 4.0 and 5.0 it was apparently merged with liblua5.1 for 5.1
[12:36] <momal> I have them al installed anyhow :p
[12:37] <intelikey> hmmm that may be the problem
[12:37] <intelikey> liblualib50 - Extension library for the Lua 5.0 programming language
[12:37] <intelikey> liblualib50-dev - Extension library for Lua 5.0: static and headers
[12:37] <ksoviet> caedes
[12:37] <intelikey> that's dapper.
[12:37] <clot> Is there some console comand for me to see all my disks ? How much space is used and how much is left ?
[12:38] <intelikey> df -h
[12:38] <clot> thanks
[12:38] <intelikey> that's for mounted file systems only
[12:39] <intelikey> anything not mounted may be listed with sudo fdisk -l    but size would be a little tricky to get there.
[12:39] <momal> intelikey: Im not going to remove liblualib5.0 it wants to remove everything related to kde lol
[12:39] <clot> I've downloaded a program that put automount on all hd's ;)
[12:39] <intelikey> momal just add the -dev maybe
[12:40] <momal> intelikey: not sure what you mean by that?.. add -dev to where?
[12:40] <momal> or remove just the -dev one ?
[12:41] <intelikey> no if you have it installed that's what i meant,  not remove it.
[12:41] <intelikey> momal was there a -dev of that first package you mentioned ?
[12:42] <momal> intelikey: liblua5.1-0 has a dev package but thats already installed... and i just removed liblualib40-dev and '50-dev but still no luck
[12:44] <nose> is there anyone here who could help me with getting media files to work?
[12:45] <intelikey> !mp3
[12:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:45] <intelikey>   - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:46] <intelikey> and you can....
[12:46] <Vladdy> not always..
[12:46] <intelikey> yes you can
[12:46] <intelikey> you just don't want to
[12:47] <intelikey> i am proof positive that one can live without any "propritary" software.
[12:47] <momal> you can always use free formats.. its just people are so used to the non free ones they don't care anymore
[12:48] <Vladdy> so, you don't use pdf, don't look at flash animations, and don't listen to mp3's...
[12:48] <Vladdy> ok..
[12:48] <momal> >>>>READ: its just people are so used to the non free ones they don't care anymore <<<<
[12:48] <cpk1> well mp3s will be free soon
[12:49] <momal> pdf's are the most stupid invention... flash is just a memory hog
[12:49] <intelikey> yes.  most people think so little of lying that it's just second nature to answer an EULA with a  "yes i agree"  when the truth is that they did not read it and have no intention at all of complying with it's terms.    in fact for most people lying is second nature.
[12:49] <Vladdy> well, either way propietary formats should be supported easier
[12:50] <momal> you pay for it and they will be.
[12:50] <cpk1> Vladdy: err? it is supported quite easy
[12:50] <intelikey> Vladdy actually propietary formats shouldn't be supported at all in linux.
[12:50] <Vladdy> god..
[12:51] <Vladdy> they should be supported more, if we want linux to become more popular
[12:51] <intelikey> not at all
[12:51] <cpk1> aptitude install libxine-extracodecs is pretty much all you need to do...
[12:51] <|GaiJin|> anyone here having trouble upgrading to edgy??
[12:51] <intelikey> Vladdy linux is not about being popular in the first place.
[12:52] <intelikey> |GaiJin| many have had.
[12:52] <momal> why should linux change???
[12:52] <momal> no one cares if linux is popular... if your not using linux you must have a reason not to... no one cares these days
[12:52] <cpk1> which is why i am still using dapper =P
[12:52] <cpk1> that and i am stubborn/lazy
[12:53] <intelikey> momal and if you are using linux you should have a reason, and i hope that it is not so you can play mp3's and watch flash files.
[12:53] <|GaiJin|> I've tried 2 times... with the usual replace dapper with edgy in source.list, and apt-get dist-upgrade... but somehow my system won't startup like it should.... Monitor stops working and such...
[12:53] <cpk1> intelikey: no, but it could be to save money =P
[12:53] <Vladdy> god.. some people are just stubborn, just be pragmatic for once O_O
[12:54] <momal> exactly ^_-... mp3 is the only format/thing that isn't free :p.... and im to lazy to convert it all to ogg.. but i will some day
[12:54] <cpk1> |GaiJin|: there are upgrade instructions somewhere... if i remember you AREN'T supposed to do dist-upgrade first
[12:54] <intelikey> Vladdy linux is about freedom  not popularity.  http://linux.com
[12:54] <intelikey> !upgrade
[12:54] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[12:55] <eilker> !amule
[12:55] <ubotu> amule: client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 1239 kB, installed size 3368 kB
[12:55] <Vladdy> find -name \*.mp3 -exec /home/yourusername/bin/convert {} \; ..
[12:56] <intelikey> Vladdy how long you been using linux ?
[12:56] <Vladdy> long enough
[12:56] <|GaiJin|> momal: Problem ain't converting from mp3 to ogg... problem is t5hat not many mp3 players support ogg.... like creative and ipod....
[12:56] <intelikey> that command looks like you should know what linux is all about...
[12:56] <momal> GaiJin|:Amarok can support all the music playing i'll ever need ^^
[12:57] <intelikey> which doesn't mean much....
[12:57] <Vladdy> true ;p
[12:57] <|GaiJin|> momal: I know that...  but was thinking of transferring to an mp3-player.. like a diskman with out the disk... and those rarely support ogg...
[12:58] <intelikey> |GaiJin| they all suport .wav and iirc it's considered a free format
[12:58] <Vladdy> trying to get a blob free linux on my wireless router
[12:58] <Vladdy> unfortunately, wireless drivers are not supported yet in 2.6 :-/
[12:58] <momal> |GaiJin|: ahh.... yea I don't have any of them.. and if anyone wants my music to put on them its there problem to convert to mp3 :p
[12:59] <|GaiJin|> hehe... converting all my mp3's back to wav... no matter of discspace is enough...
[12:59] <Vladdy> well
[12:59] <Vladdy> make it output it to /dev/stdout, then pipe it to wav-ogg converter
[12:59] <aspedia> hello all
[12:59] <intelikey> that's hardly an argument for using mp3 |GaiJin|
[01:00] <|GaiJin|> on a portable mp3-player who only supports wav, mp3 and wma....
[01:00] <intelikey> wasn't our fault you paid M$ to rape you.
[01:01] <intelikey> hope you enjoy
[01:01] <|GaiJin|> never did....
[01:01] <aspedia> I have edgy installed and I want to use samba. The problem is, that ican not connect to samba share with M$ clients. It asking me for authentication. I do that, but get no acces to the samba share
[01:01] <aspedia> can some one help?
[01:01] <|GaiJin|> I paid money for a gadget called creative zen... and whitch does not support ogg
[01:01] <Vladdy> get your /etc/samba/smb.conf right
[01:02] <intelikey> |GaiJin| that's what i said.
[01:02] <intelikey> !samba
[01:02] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:02] <VSpike> Samsung players support Ogg.  IIRC Creative ones do too.
[01:03] <tony134340> anyone know if it's possible to make a right-click command to sort files by size/date/etc?
[01:03] <aspedia> okay Ill try the links
[01:03] <intelikey> tony134340 where ?
[01:03] <metro-polisie> !java
[01:03] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:04] <intelikey> tony134340 that would be app specific
[01:04] <VSpike> |GaiJin|: Oh.. you're right, Creative don't.  Must have been thinking of another brand.
[01:04] <VSpike> But Samsung do, and I know 'cos I have one :D
[01:04] <tony134340> intelikey: in konqueror
[01:04] <|GaiJin|> hehe
[01:05] <tony134340> i know the command line way, but not sure if it's possible in konqueror
[01:05] <naddar> sudo apt-cache search gbox
[01:05] <naddar> sudo apt-cache search gbox
[01:05] <intelikey> tony134340 i'm sure it is... but i'm not the one to tell you how...  there is a menu listing   i think under view
[01:06] <tony134340> yeah, but it's tedious as much as i do it. it's possible, but not sure if it is without lots of coding, which i can't do
[01:07] <intelikey> yeah with an edit of the shortcut keys would be the easiest way i think          tony134340 why not save that as default ?
[01:07] <Ash-Fox> !vmware-server
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmware-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <Ash-Fox> !vmware
[01:07] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[01:07] <Ash-Fox> Blah
[01:08] <intelikey> or are you sayint you change the sort between name/size/date  often  ???
[01:08] <intelikey> saying
[01:09] <wincide> hi all
[01:09] <tony134340> intelikey: because i see no shortcut key command to point to the 'sort by' option
[01:09] <wincide> could someone tell me the name of the kde charmap ??
[01:09] <intelikey> but you could set one.
[01:10] <intelikey> tony134340 if Jucato was here he might even know how...
[01:10] <tony134340> also i got lots of files and easiest way sometimes to find one is to sort the others
[01:10] <Jucato> I might, but I don't
[01:10] <VSpike> On the subject of software freedom, is KDE completely free now?
[01:10] <tony134340> that's one thing i miss about windows is the right-click sort
[01:10] <intelikey> Jucato you have not set hotkeys for things like that ?
[01:10] <Jucato> nope
[01:10] <Jucato> I've always set mine to sort according to type
[01:10] <intelikey> Jucato as much as you play with konq......   hmmm
[01:11] <Jucato> VSpike: KDE  has always been free
[01:11] <[GuS] > Bonjour!
[01:11] <tony134340> i was going to make a service menu for it and put it on kde-apps.org since it might be useful to others too
[01:11] <intelikey> wincide i think kchar
[01:11] <Jucato> tony134340: perhaps you could check in kde-apps.org if they have service menus that do what youwant
[01:11] <Jucato> wincide: kcharselect, iirc
[01:11] <tony134340> Jucato: already checked, didn't see anything like it in service menus
[01:12] <VSpike> Jucato: I could be wrong, but I thought last time I used Linux in any serious way, back in 2000 ish, the purists all refused to use KDE because the Qt libraries were not GPL'd
[01:12] <cpk1> i thought qt wasnt free
[01:12] <Ash-Fox> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare <- it's really annoying when this isn't on the wiki page, because on the wiki page, I can do modifications. Right now I just wnat to change the apt-get command to 'sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)', since it's pointless to get the user to type two commands and copy-paste.
[01:12] <intelikey> wincide kcharselect maybe
[01:12] <cpk1> i thought the cutting edge versions of qt were non-free
[01:12] <Jucato> VSpike: iirc, Qt was dual licensed as GPL/QPL in 2000 or 2001
[01:13] <Vladdy> yep
[01:13] <Vladdy> even for windows versions now
[01:13] <kjetilk_> VSpike: yeah, but Qt was freed around then, and the Qt folks has since said they regretted waiting so long
[01:13] <Jucato> basically Qt is free (GPL) for open-source/non-commercial work. on all platforms
[01:13] <Jucato> cpk1: you have it the other way around
[01:14] <wincide> intelikey:  thx
[01:14] <Vladdy> it's triple licensed even
[01:14] <kjetilk_> can I make kubuntu drop the graphics and show me the bootup process somehow?
[01:14] <Vladdy> propietary too
[01:14] <Jucato> dual only Vladdy
[01:14] <PhinnFort> trolltech has always released their sourcecode, afaik
[01:14] <Jucato> GPL and QPL
[01:14] <PhinnFort> they just didn't allow derivatives for some time
[01:14] <Vladdy> and propietary
[01:14] <Vladdy> if you pay them
[01:15] <ehird> meh
[01:15] <Jucato> for non-open source/commercial development. how does that make it proprietary?
[01:15] <abattoir> kjetilk_: sure, remove 'splash' from the grub kernel boot options
[01:15] <kjetilk_> ok, will try
[01:15] <Vladdy> i mean, it can have a propietary license too..
[01:15] <ehird> once i got a bootup process so minimal that i didnt' see anything :0
[01:15] <Ash-Fox> If you want to make closed source applications against QT, I suggest you don't do any static linking with those libraries.
[01:15] <Ash-Fox> Otherwise you will need to buy a license from trolltech.
[01:15] <Vladdy> err
[01:16] <Vladdy> even if you link dynamically
[01:16] <Jucato> anyway, getting -offtopic
[01:16] <Vladdy> gpl will say it has to be gpl..
[01:16] <Vladdy> else you can't do that
[01:16] <Ash-Fox> Vladdy, if it doesn't come with the library...
[01:16] <PhinnFort> that's why thay have several licenses available
[01:16] <oscardlawrenta> hi  room
[01:16] <PhinnFort> hi oscardlawrenta
[01:16] <PhinnFort> i'm room
[01:16] <oscardlawrenta> kool
[01:16] <oscardlawrenta> u
[01:16] <Jucato> in a sense, Qt if more "free" than GTK+, since Qt is GPL, while GTK+ is LGPL
[01:17] <PhinnFort> gpl is forcing freedom on the world;)
[01:17] <oscardlawrenta> any gurl around
[01:17] <ehird> no
[01:17] <Jucato> anyway, really getting offtopic. just a reminder
[01:17] <oscardlawrenta> hello anyone here
[01:17] <Ash-Fox> oscardlawrenta, no.
[01:17] <oscardlawrenta> lol
[01:17] <oscardlawrenta> funny
[01:17] <Jucato> everyone's welcome to continue the discussion in #kubuntu-offtopic if they want
[01:17] <tony134340> yes, linux geeks are such chick magnets
[01:17] <intelikey> you can not leaglely make open source  propietary   you can use it and base a work upon it  but you can not take the code as is and claim it.   that's what the gnu-gpl is there for, to prevent that very thing.   to keep the code free.
[01:18] <tony134340> ask my 3 girlfriends
[01:18] <kjetilk_> hmmm, my box says "BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!"
[01:18] <kjetilk_> anyone know what that is?
[01:18] <PhinnFort> kjetilk_: you have dual core?
[01:18] <kjetilk_> PhinnFort: yup
[01:18] <PhinnFort> then one of the cores got stuck, it seems
[01:18] <kjetilk_> brand new Core Duo 2 GH
[01:18] <kjetilk_> hmmm, right
[01:19] <intelikey> kjetilk_ yep. it's a bug.
[01:19] <naddar> rexit
[01:19] <kjetilk_> uhm, not a hardware problem, I hope....?
[01:19] <PhinnFort> intelikey: obviously, the kernel says it is
[01:19] <PhinnFort> kjetilk_: probably just a buggy driver
[01:19] <kjetilk_> PhinnFort: ok
[01:19] <intelikey> PhinnFort the kernel is seldom if ever wrong about that....
[01:19] <PhinnFort> you have some funky wireless card or something?
[01:19] <Ash-Fox> intelikey, I don't believe what I was suggesting was turning a opensource library into a proprietory one.
[01:20] <PhinnFort> Trolltech is doing the opposite;)
[01:20] <kjetilk_> PhinnFort: hmmm, yeah, lots of new stuff...
[01:20] <oscardlawrenta> hi ash fox
[01:20] <PhinnFort> oscardlawrenta: i doubt he is a "gurl"
[01:20] <oscardlawrenta> where u from ?
[01:20] <VSpike> kjetilk_: looks like a driver bug: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251944
[01:20] <kjetilk_> PhinnFort: there is a new sound card that I read could mean trouble...
[01:20] <oscardlawrenta> lool
[01:21] <PhinnFort> kjetilk_: you could always try to use external alsa libraries (or does (k)ubuntu already use that?)
[01:21] <Ash-Fox> oscardlawrenta, I'm not really kubuntu 'staff', so that sort of question is off topic for this channel :P
[01:21] <nose> hooray for you guys
[01:21] <nose> bye
[01:21] <oscardlawrenta> ok thnks for that observation
[01:21] <kjetilk_> PhinnFort: yeah, but it seems to be connected to the wireless card
[01:22] <intelikey> looks like nose got picked
[01:22] <PhinnFort> kjetilk_: what kind of card do you have?
[01:22] <PhinnFort> intelikey: :P
[01:22] <intelikey> or was that ticked ?
[01:22] <kjetilk_> PhinnFort: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[01:23] <PhinnFort> kjetilk_: thought they had rather well supported drivers...
[01:23] <kjetilk_> yeah...
[01:23] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[01:24] <Vladdy> ipw3945 works too..
[01:24] <Vladdy> but both contain blobs :-/
[01:24] <PhinnFort> ralink is very well supported too, afaik
[01:24] <PhinnFort> kjetilk_: you could poke around at http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/
[01:25] <Ash-Fox> Well, the bcm drivers apparently cannot be distributed on the CD I thought due to some licensing?
[01:25] <kjetilk_> perhaps it is the dual-core/wifi combo that messes up here...
[01:25] <intelikey> shall we list all of /lib/modules/2.6.*/kernel/net/
[01:26] <PhinnFort> i'm impressed by intels interest in linux, though
[01:26] <PhinnFort> kjetilk_: you could try to use the latest drivers from the project
[01:26] <kjetilk_> yup
[01:27] <intelikey> i'm wondering if it's so they can later sue and own linux....
[01:27] <aspedia> okay I installed swat. But can not find an inetd under edgy
[01:27] <PhinnFort> intelikey: they release the code themselves
[01:27] <kjetilk_> the thread that VSpike posted had some interesting posts, I'll see if that gets me somewhere
[01:27] <PhinnFort> but the laws regarding this stuff is rather confusing in the us
[01:27] <intelikey> i know but you look at their track record...
[01:27] <aspedia> so swat isnt starting
[01:27] <PhinnFort> kjetilk_: ok, good luck
[01:27] <Vladdy> aspedia: xinetd?
[01:27] <aspedia> how I get swat running under edgy?
[01:28] <kjetilk_> thanks :-)
[01:28] <aspedia> no there is also no xinetd
[01:28] <cpk1> aspedia: you shouldnt really need swat
[01:28] <cpk1> a simple samba config isnt too difficult
[01:28] <Vladdy> true
[01:29] <aspedia> yes, the problem is that I can not connect from win to linux samba
[01:29] <intelikey> !swat
[01:29] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:29] <intelikey> that's kinda recursive  me thinks
[01:30] <cpk1> aspedia: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 this might work for you
[01:31] <aspedia> cpk1: this looks good. Ill go giving it a try
[01:33] <Ash-Fox> Where do I submit needed changes to help.ubuntu.com ?
[01:33] <intelikey> ubotu own is if need to own things in your home dir. paste this in a konsole;   sudo chown `whoami`:`groups | cut -d' ' -f1` ~
[01:34] <intelikey> ubotu own is if need to own things in your home dir. paste this in a konsole;   sudo chown -R `whoami`:`groups | cut -d' ' -f1` ~
[01:34] <intelikey> i missed the recursive notation... how clumZ of me.
[01:40] <intelikey> is there a cron job that would clear the package cache ?
[01:41] <intelikey> i can't imagine where the packages went.... i don't recall moving them....
[01:41] <dinosaur-rus> intelikey: add a job to do "apt-get clean"
[01:41] <intelikey> dinosaur-rus i know i could add one.  i'm asking about a default
[01:42] <intelikey> and i have removed all jobs so i can't go back and check what was.
[01:42] <dinosaur-rus> intelikey: oh, dunno. maybe the cache got too big so it was cleaned automatically?
[01:42] <intelikey> it wont do that will it ?
[01:43] <intelikey> 2g shouldn't be too big anyway.....
[01:43] <intelikey>  iirc it was just under 2g last i looked.
[01:43] <cpk1> where is the package cache?
[01:43] <intelikey> 1.8g i think
[01:44] <intelikey> cpk1 /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:44] <intelikey> cpk1 du /var/cache/apt/archives -s
[01:44] <cpk1> looks like mine is 1.4g
[01:44] <dinosaur-rus> intelikey: /etc/cron.daily/apt
[01:45] <intelikey> dinosaur-rus so there was one....  figures.
[01:45] <intelikey> k thanks.
[01:45] <ehird> i've just found out about kate -u
[01:45] <ehird> previously i was using kate's built in crappy terminal
[01:45] <ehird> now i have teh powar :0
[01:47] <ehird> hah, dialup
[01:48] <intelikey> -u is not in kate's man page
[01:49] <xsacha> how do you see my thread count?
[01:49] <xsacha> i*
[01:49] <intelikey> ps ?
[01:49] <alej> hello... am a newbie here....
[01:49] <alej> any tip on how to make my taskbar appear again
[01:49] <Jucato> alej: where did you put it?
[01:50] <xsacha> ps -eLf?
[01:50] <intelikey> alej alt+f2  kicker
[01:50] <Jucato> that works (presuming kicker isn't running)
[01:51] <intelikey> xsacha if all you want is a count ps -A x | wc -l    ?    idk.
[01:51] <xsacha> k
[01:51] <xsacha> 108
[01:51] <intelikey> ps -A x | wc -l
[01:51] <intelikey> 40
[01:51] <intelikey> :)
[01:51] <intelikey> you win
[01:51] <Vladdy> ;p
[01:52] <alej> I think I must have autohid it
[01:52] <cpk1> 113 here
[01:52] <alej> tried alt+f2
[01:52] <alej> wrote kicker
[01:52] <alej> but nuthin
[01:52] <xsacha> that's threads or processes :S?
[01:52] <pvandewyngaerde> how do i get out of ut 2004 demo ???  is there sth like an alt-tab from windows ?
[01:52] <intelikey> well actually both   or heheh by who's definition?   one might answer      "yes"
[01:53] <cpk1> ps -A x | wc -l gives me 113 top says 11 tasks soooo dunno
[01:53] <cpk1> 111*
[01:53] <alej> anyway to find it through System Settings?
[01:53] <intelikey> cpk1 ps was one and wc was another  there is two of them...
[01:53] <alej> coz I managed to add the kde Icon again
[01:53] <alej> into a menus bar , that is
[01:54] <xsacha> i have 105 Tasks in top :P
[01:54] <Jucato> alej: what exactly are you missing?
[01:55] <xsacha> intelikey: but how do i get thread count? that'll just give me amount of processes i have?
[01:55] <intelikey> xsacha what are you calling threads ?
[01:56] <alej> well.. I am missing the default bottom taskbar, the one wherein in Kubuntu 6.10 you have the K-thingy, Konqueror and another icon, while to the right there is the clock and the bin
[01:56] <xsacha> like forks?
[01:57] <Jucato> alej: press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol". go to Desktop -> Panels and see if the panel is hiding somewhere
[01:58] <intelikey> that is a thread,   that is a process.   ps lists them.   if you don't beleave it (don't do this unless you have ulimit set)    : () { : | : } ; : & sleep 1 ;ps -Ax | wc -l
[01:58] <alej> thanks jucato
[01:58] <alej> u did for me
[01:59] <Vladdy> lol
[01:59] <Vladdy> that's a fork bomb..
[01:59] <alej> now it autohides like it was meant too
[01:59] <intelikey> yes Vladdy
[01:59] <linux_> how can I update my sources list ?\
[01:59] <brunnerma> hi
[01:59] <brunnerma> is easy!!
[01:59] <intelikey> and it will run the process count up to the ulimit
[02:00] <Vladdy> edit /etc/apt/sources.list then run apt-get update ;p
[02:00] <brunnerma> yes :-)
[02:00] <brunnerma> and the soucelist is on
[02:00] <brunnerma> kubuntu.org
[02:00] <brunnerma> wiki
[02:00] <linux_> oke :P
[02:00] <intelikey> linux_ update it ???    what do you mean by  "update my sources list" ?
[02:00] <brunnerma> german here?
[02:01] <intelikey> !repos
[02:01] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:01] <intelikey> ok i have to make rounds again.
[02:04] <f_> hallo
[02:04] <f_> hallo
[02:04] <f_> khallo
[02:05] <kjetilk_> but I'm not very confident it isn't a random bug that will jump up and bit me some other time...
[02:06] <kjetilk_> so, if it is the ipw3945 driver, can I do something to check if it is running ok now?
[02:06] <kjetilk_> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/62452 looks like my bug
[02:07] <kjetilk_> but the suggestion there is basically to install linux-restricted-modules-generic
[02:07] <kjetilk_> but that was installed for me, and I still saw the problem
[02:08] <Vladdy> kjetilk_: it does the magical Works For Me
[02:09] <kjetilk_> hehe
[02:09] <Vladdy> which means absolutely nothing I guess :-)
[02:10] <kjetilk_> probably not :-)
[02:12] <kjetilk_> OMG
[02:12] <kjetilk_> * is not mapped to the right key...
[02:14] <pvandewyngaerde> how do i "alt-tab" out of ut 2004 demo ?
[02:15] <momal> How might I go about renaming all files in a folder to start with a capital letter and if there are 2 words in the file name to make both words start with capital ?
[02:15] <rance> when I issue a aplay -l I see that I have TWO sound devices setup for the same card (card 0: devices 0 & 1)  alsamixer is looking at the first device (which I don't have) How do I get alsa to use the other device?
[02:20] <RobNyc> anyone here using vista also ?
[02:20] <ReTyPe> never of my life
[02:21] <k> www.yahoo.com.tw
[02:21] <cloakable> RobNyc: Why would they want to? :) KDE is better looking and lighter than Vista,
[02:21] <BluesKaj> Howdy all! :)
[02:21] <Vladdy> :-)
[02:21] <RobNyc> Chousuke, im triple-booting vista, osx, kubuntu and wanted to be able to read/write my vista partition
[02:21] <Vladdy> you can try ntfs-3g on your own risk
[02:22] <cloakable> Indeed.
[02:22] <RobNyc> Vladdy, lol thanks
[02:22] <Vladdy> me neither, I don't like filesystems that lock me out of my own files..
[02:22] <RobNyc> lol
[02:22] <RobNyc> but also
[02:22] <Vladdy> http://www.fs-driver.org/
[02:23] <RobNyc> I tried mounting the osx partition with the diskmounter auto script and it didnt find it
[02:23] <Vladdy> not sure if vista works..
[02:23] <RobNyc> but if i do mount -t hfsplus /dev/hdx /media/xx it works fine as read only
[02:23] <RobNyc> Vladdy, the diskmounter just mounted my vista read only though
[02:23] <cloakable> Vladdy: Not properly. You know Microsoft and first editions of anything :P
[02:24] <Vladdy> ah yes
[02:24] <Vladdy> wait for sp1 until an OS becomes useful..
[02:26] <Vladdy> but still, beryl looks nicer then vista does ;p
[02:27] <JuJuBee> Morning, or what ever time it is where  you are :).  I just installed Real Player for Linux and am trying to view a stream and firefox tells me it cannot locate an appropriate hxplay or realplay in the system path to use as the embeded player.  Any help?
[02:27] <BluesKaj> Is Vista a NTFS ...thought I read somewhere that it was modded and given a new name ?
[02:27] <kaatil> modded? XD
[02:28] <Vladdy> no, that will be winfs
[02:28] <kaatil> well no... NTFS is a FileSystem.
[02:28] <Vladdy> and they dropped all features from vista..
[02:28] <Vladdy> :p
[02:28] <BluesKaj> the basic code and parameters for the file sytem were changed from NTFS
[02:28] <kaatil> yeah
[02:28] <kaatil> microsoft must love to cut it.
[02:28] <Vladdy> then of course they make a huge marketing campaign
[02:28] <kaatil> because 'time is money' so therefore that feature is cut.
[02:28] <Vladdy> so people won't look at the flaws :-/
[02:28] <kaatil> yeah
[02:29] <kaatil> we wont forget it that easily.. for us nerds that is
[02:29] <RobNyc> beryl could look nicer, but its more unstable than fcuk
[02:29] <RobNyc> and sure it does look nicer
[02:29] <JuJuBee> Any help with realplayer for linux?
[02:29] <Vladdy> !realplayer
[02:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:29] <kaatil> !vlc
[02:29] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[02:29] <Vladdy> amarok :D
[02:30] <genjix> hi sorry to bother you all
[02:31] <Vladdy> we accept your apology
[02:31] <genjix> but I've been trying since this morning to get video to work :(
[02:31] <BluesKaj> no bother
[02:31] <Vladdy> !multimedia
[02:31] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[02:31] <genjix> I have all codecs, KPlayer works, but all others just don't render anything (black screen)
[02:31] <genjix> and google video doesn't work either
[02:31] <Vladdy> !flash
[02:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:31] <BluesKaj> kaffeine ?
[02:31] <Vladdy> :P
[02:32] <Vladdy> hmm
[02:32] <genjix> kaffeine is just a black screen too
[02:32] <kaatil> kaffeine is a media player too
[02:32] <kaatil> prehap it is video card problem or whatever. i dunno
[02:32] <genjix> :P
[02:32] <Vladdy> google video uses flash..
[02:32] <kaatil> vlc look fucked up on my kubuntu while on mplayer it look fine and dandy
[02:32] <genjix> yep, so why the videos don't play?
[02:33] <genjix> I'm sure its not the card- gentoo worked here before fine. ;)
[02:33] <Vladdy> does flash work on other sites?
[02:33] <kaatil> what video card are you using, genjix?
[02:33] <genjix> geforce 4 mx
[02:33] <kaatil> you are using beryl version of kubuntu? i dunno.. i still stick to dapper because of long support.... i guess. :p
[02:34] <Vladdy> ehehe
[02:34] <brunnerma> hi
[02:34] <genjix> flash works
[02:34] <kaatil> :)
[02:34] <brunnerma> can anyone tell me a ipsec vpn client?
[02:34] <brunnerma> and the soucelist...
[02:34] <kaatil> i am still new to linux thing... i am using kubuntu since 4 or 5 months now.
[02:34] <brunnerma> who can find the client.
[02:34] <lupine_85> VNC ?
[02:34] <kaatil> it is nice experience for me.
[02:34] <lupine_85> !vnc
[02:34] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[02:35] <lupine_85> bah, no
[02:35] <brunnerma> vnc
[02:35] <JuJuBee> vladdy : thanks, but those tell me how to install real player 10.  I already have it installed. I need to get the stream running using my firefox plugin.
[02:35] <brunnerma> virtual network client
[02:35] <kaatil> VNC = virtual network client? *shrug* i dunno whatever it mean
[02:35] <kaatil> ah
[02:35] <brunnerma> :-)
[02:35] <genjix> no ideas about the black screen in the media players?
[02:35] <kaatil> try reinstall NV plugin?
[02:35] <Vladdy> JuJuBee: what plugins are listed in about:plugin (open that in firefox)
[02:35] <brunnerma> can anyone tell me a vpn client?
[02:36] <genjix> hmm, I'm using the nvidia plugin
[02:36] <kjetilk_> klaptopdaemon, apmd, powernowd seems mutally exclusive to powersaved and kpowersave
[02:36] <Ritzzo> anyone have problems with ps/2 mouse configure? i cant use it but i can use touchpad fine
[02:36] <kjetilk_> opinions on what set to use?
[02:36] <brunnerma> an ipsec client
[02:36] <kaatil> bruennrma. type !vnc and you will get the answer. :)
[02:36] <JuJuBee> vladdy : flash, java and Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible
[02:36] <brunnerma> ok!
[02:36] <brunnerma> thx!
[02:37] <brunnerma> no vnc
[02:37] <brunnerma> vpn
[02:37] <brunnerma> !vpn
[02:37] <kaatil> erm.. i mean.. try like this.
[02:37] <ubotu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[02:37] <kaatil> !vnc
[02:37] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[02:37] <kaatil> yeah something like that
[02:37] <kaatil> !freenx
[02:37] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[02:37] <kaatil> interesting
[02:38] <Vladdy> JuJuBee: http://jordilin.wordpress.com/2006/10/30/howto-firefox-and-the-realplayer-plugin-in-ubuntu-edgy-eft/
[02:38] <brunnerma> anyone german here?
[02:38] <BluesKaj> !de
[02:38] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:39] <Vladdy> brb
[02:40] <RoKFiT> hello, can anyone help me?  I cannot access or empty a trash folder on a removable usb drive, and i've tried sudo chmod 777 /media/USBDRIVE
[02:41] <Bulwinkle> can someone recommend an applet to show me when I have emails?
[02:42] <Jucato> (kmail?)
[02:42] <RoKFiT> Kontact, then press ctrl+L
[02:42] <RoKFiT> Jucato, have you read what I typed?
[02:42] <Jucato> about the trash?
[02:42] <RoKFiT> yes
[02:43] <Jucato> yeah, unfortunately, I have no idea
[02:43] <RoKFiT> where is intelikey been
[02:43] <RoKFiT> has*
[02:43] <Bulwinkle> I use kontact for kmail for mail but no applet
[02:43] <Jucato> !seen intelikey
[02:43] <ubotu> I last saw intelikey (n=greg@0-1pool89-72.nas23.houston4.tx.us.da.qwest.net) 41m 39s ago, quiting: "later"
[02:44] <Jucato> Bulwinkle: you can set KMail (in Kontact) to notify you with a popup when new mails arrive
[02:44] <JuJuBee> vladdy : thanks, but that doesn't help.  I do not have a libtotem file in my plugins folder.  I also do not have a plugin in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins for realplayer.  I am guessing it is in my ~/.mozilla/plugins folder.  Still not able to play a real stream.
[02:45] <JuJuBee> How do I check to see if there is a symbolic link to the realplay script is in my PATH.
[02:45] <Bulwinkle> Jucato: got it thanks!!!
[02:45] <kaatil> have you try play real stream on mplayer? :3
[02:45] <kaatil> last time i check i can run .rm on mplayer
[02:46] <kaatil> athough i am not knowledgeable to know if mplayer require .rm plugin or something like that
[02:47] <JuJuBee> kaatil : it is supposed to play in the browser window.  There are ppt slides that get synch'd with the video.
[02:47] <JuJuBee> It is a training video from cisco.
[02:48] <kjetilk_> oh, well, the ipw3945 bug is a random thing...
[02:48] <kjetilk_> I didn't solve the problem... :-(
[02:49] <RoKFiT> have you googled or tried forums?
[02:50] <kjetilk_> yup, there is discussions, but no solid solutions, it appears...
[02:51] <RoKFiT> well do you by any chance know how to change the permissions on a folder and all it's containing files to be allowed to be deleted by user
[02:52] <kjetilk_> they have to be writeable
[02:52] <RoKFiT> do you know the command
[02:52] <RoKFiT> i can't edit the folder
[02:52] <kjetilk_> so you can give it a chmod +w -R on the directory
[02:53] <RoKFiT> i did that and i click move to trash, and it says cannot rename folder...
[02:54] <kjetilk_> rm -rf on the folder, then...
[02:54] <cloakable> RoKFiT: Or enable the delete command in Konqueror.
[02:55] <luisfsm> timi
[02:55] <RoKFiT> rm -rf did it
[02:55] <RoKFiT> oh cloakable, that allows for it to be directly deleted and not moved to a trash can?
[02:55] <RoKFiT> it was a trash can file is why i ask
[02:56] <cloakable> RoKFiT: Yeah.
[02:56] <genjix_> I found something!
[02:56] <genjix_> mplayer and kplayer works
[02:56] <genjix_> but kmplayer and kaffeine do not (xine)
[02:57] <genjix_> video_decoder: no plugin available to handle 'ISO-MPEG4/OpenDivx'
[02:57] <genjix_> audio_decoder: no plugin available to handle 'MPEG layer 2/3'
[02:57] <genjix_> wtf? why do i get that?
[02:57] <RoKFiT> cloakable: do you ever permanently delete important files accidentaly with that command?
[02:58] <cloakable> RoKFiT: I have no important files that don't backup to my fileserver :)
[02:58] <lenscape> !skype
[02:58] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[02:59] <aspedia> its a debian questin: I want to download debian etch (4.0) and can not find it. can sonmeone help?
[02:59] <cloakable> aspedia: Try torrent sites.
[03:01] <aspedia> there are only debians 3.1
[03:01] <aspedia> where can I find 4.0?
[03:02] <cloakable> aspedia: Oh yeah, low version numbers on Debian. I've no idea. I'd grab 3.1, then do a dist-upgrade to 4.0
[03:03] <aspedia> okay. Does someone know if there is an intel 64bit-debian-version?
[03:03] <aspedia> or can I also use the amd -version?
[03:04] <BluesKaj> amd version ?
[03:04] <Bulwinkle> aspedia: they are the same...  amd64 runs on the intel platform
[03:04] <cloakable> aspedia: AMD and Intel use the same x64 extenstions, unless you're planning on running on an Itanium.
[03:04] <aspedia> amd64 version with debian etch
[03:04] <RoKFiT> cloakable: what art program do you use on kde?
[03:05] <RoKFiT> sorry i was copying some files
[03:05] <BluesKaj> sarge ?
[03:05] <aspedia> thnaks cloakable
[03:05] <aspedia> no not with sarge
[03:05] <cloakable> RoKFiT: Krita, mostly. I use GIMP to make animated gifs, at least until Krita supports that.
[03:06] <RoKFiT> i can't select things in krita
[03:06] <RoKFiT> my selections don't highligh
[03:06] <RoKFiT> they were selecting all blue, but then i don't know what i did.
[03:07] <RoKFiT> do you know what i'm talking about?
[03:07] <RoKFiT> i am on version 1.5.2
[03:08] <cloakable> RoKFiT: Yeah.
[03:09] <cloakable> I know.
[03:09] <majnoon> !kwikdisck
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwikdisck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <majnoon> !kwikdisc
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwikdisc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <RoKFiT> how can i fix that?
[03:09] <BluesKaj> !krita
[03:09] <ubotu> krita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2463 kB, installed size 7768 kB
[03:11] <BluesKaj> RoKFiT, are you saying the options icons are greyed out ?
[03:13] <RoKFiT> no i'm saying that i click select a rectangular area, and i go to select something, and nothing happens
[03:13] <RoKFiT> i am using layers
[03:14] <RoKFiT> and also cannot erase parts of the layer
[03:14] <RoKFiT> or image
[03:14] <RoKFiT> or paint on it
[03:14] <benjaminkip> any there to help!!!
[03:15] <benjaminkip> binary2k2.. ru there
[03:15] <benjaminkip> or anyone else..
[03:15] <RoKFiT> okay it's working again
[03:15] <chopin|pc> i'm having a rough time getting my wireless interface to connect reliably ... is this pretty common?  should i be doing something other than /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[03:15] <RoKFiT> it must have been a layer issue.
[03:15] <benjaminkip> I just downloaded some
[03:15] <benjaminkip> but could not install
[03:16] <benjaminkip> any one there to help??? Please
[03:17] <benjaminkip> ????
[03:17] <benjaminkip> how to install
[03:17] <benjaminkip> rokfit can you help me please
[03:18] <benjaminkip> ??????????????????
[03:19] <benjaminkip> %% some one help me plez
[03:19] <cloakable> benjaminkip: Install what, exactly?
[03:19] <Hawkwind> benjaminkip: Have a bit of patience please
[03:20] <Hawkwind> benjaminkip: People don't just sit and stare at IRC waiting for questions
[03:20] <benjaminkip> i just downloaded kdeedu program
[03:20] <Jucato> !patience
[03:20] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:20] <gnomefreak> how do you remove the trash can from desktop?
[03:20] <Jucato> delete the .desktop file?
[03:20] <gnomefreak> not the kicker but the desktop itslef
[03:20] <chriskelly> hi all, I'm a bit stuck. I tried upgrading by changing breezy to edgy in all my sources.list and I think I screwed up.
[03:20] <Hawkwind> benjaminkip: Why not just type: sudo apt-get install kdeedu
[03:21] <benjaminkip> sorry!!!!! I am
[03:21] <benjaminkip> sorry
[03:21] <chriskelly> I'm getting this message when I run a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade": "dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `postfix' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed."
[03:21] <majnoon> <<thinks he may have got the file already
[03:21] <Hawkwind> chriskelly: Trying to upgrade from Breezy to Edgy will not work
[03:21] <benjaminkip> i have downloaded it already on my desktop
[03:22] <Hawkwind> chriskelly: Too many things have changed and the upgrade will completely ruin your install.  You really need to download the ISO and do a fresh install
[03:22] <cloakable> benjaminkip: But whay? o.o
[03:22] <Hawkwind> benjaminkip: No need for that
[03:22] <majnoon> benjaminkip: try sudo dpkg -i <package>
[03:22] <chriskelly> Thanks hawkind. That's what I was afraid of :(
[03:22] <benjaminkip> so what shall i do
[03:22] <Hawkwind> benjaminkip: You need to use the distros package management system:  sudo apt-get install kdeedu will do the trick for you
[03:22] <Hawkwind> majnoon: Bahhh, no!
[03:23] <majnoon> <<sorry just switched from MEPIS
[03:24] <benjaminkip> how about install the fiel wich is downloaded by doing some click.. net necessary this file
[03:25] <benjaminkip> binary2k2 taught me but I just forget the command
[03:25] <Hawkwind> benjaminkip: sudo apt-get install kdeedu
[03:25] <Hawkwind> benjaminkip: Just type it into a terminal/console
[03:26] <Jucato> benjaminkip: when you download and try to install a program that can already be found in Ubuntu's repositories, you risk breaking your system.
[03:26] <benjaminkip> oic
[03:26] <crube> I just installalled Azureus, and it seems to work just fine. It's just that it's missing the icons. It has an icon in the KMenu, but it's not showing up in the window or the system tray
[03:26] <majnoon> though when install i don't remember typing in a root password
[03:26] <Jucato> majnoon: when you installed Kubuntu?
[03:26] <Dekkard> crube... have you tried ktorrent?
[03:27] <majnoon> last night
[03:27] <RoKFiT> is there a wand selection tool in krita?
[03:27] <Jucato> majnoon: that's normal. we don't have root account enabled by default in Ubuntu
[03:27] <Jucato> !sudo | majnoon
[03:27] <ubotu> majnoon: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:27] <zerzan> hey there, dont know if anyone can help. trying to get a ati rage II 3D + card to work with kubuntu desktop. tried reconfiguring it in all kinda of ways (debconf, kde tools) and it still will only display in 800x600. any ideas?
[03:27] <crube> Dekkard:  yeah, but the download speeds are slow and unstable. I've used it for a while now, but I cant say I like it
[03:28] <Dekkard> zerzan:  did you try dpkg reconfigure -phigh  xserver-xorg
[03:28] <zerzan> no ill give that a go, thanks... one sec
[03:29] <Dekkard> my command syntax may be borked.. but i know its something like that
[03:29] <benjaminkip> everyone there..... thanks for helping me and sorry for being impatient
[03:29] <benjaminkip> thanks
[03:29] <majnoon> Jucato: even other distros that do same thing STILL ask for a root pass
[03:29] <chopin|pc> !networking
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <Jucato> zerzan: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:29] <chopin|pc> ubotu: !
[03:30] <Jucato> majnoon: no other distro uses sudo exclusively as much as Ubuntu.
[03:30] <zerzan> jucato, tried that,Dekkard, -phigh throws up an error?
[03:30] <Dekkard> try without -phigh
[03:31] <chopin|pc> i'm having a rough time getting my wireless interface to connect reliably ... is this pretty common?  should i be doing something other than /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[03:31] <zerzan> yeah have done dekkard
[03:31] <Dekkard> have you tried the kubuntu wiki?
[03:31] <RoKFiT> does gimp just look wrong in kde?
[03:31] <computer> !MPlayer
[03:31] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[03:31] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[03:31] <zerzan> didnt get us very far dekkard :(
[03:31] <Dekkard> sowwy
[03:31] <RoKFiT> where did my krita pro go?
[03:32] <cloakable> Krita pro?
[03:32] <RoKFiT> lol
[03:32] <RoKFiT> how do i color select areas
[03:32] <RoKFiT> in krita, like a wand tool
[03:32] <marvin> como chateo en esp
[03:33] <marvin> olaaaa
[03:33] <crube> Is there an easy way to get rid of unnecessary libs etc. Stuff that's been installed with a program that needed them, and is now propably unnecessary
[03:33] <cloakable> RoKFiT: Hey, I don't use Krita that much :P Mostly image editing. The colour select is dodgy. I didn't get much luck in either Krita or GIMP
[03:34] <gnomefreak> Jucato: i feel stupid now :( just drag and drop it into trash
[03:34] <cloakable> crube: apt-get clean
[03:34] <crube> cloakable: thanks.
[03:34] <Jucato> gnomefreak: we all have our moments :)
[03:34] <cloakable> crube: APT does all :P
[03:34] <chopin|pc> for rill tho -- what can i do about wireless?
[03:34] <chopin|pc> !wireless
[03:34] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:34] <majnoon> or at least MOST of it
[03:35] <chopin|pc> o
[03:35] <chopin|pc> :-|
[03:36] <gnomefreak> another  stupid question. i made a gnome-terminal button on kicker is there a way i can get it to start an app on start
[03:37] <Jucato> get gnome-terminal to start an app on start?
[03:37] <Jucato> or you mean start an app when KDE starts up?
[03:37] <gnomefreak> click on gnome-term button and get it to launch irssi
[03:37] <Jucato> ah.. hm..
[03:38] <Jucato> does gnome-terminal support that feature? (like xterm?)
[03:38] <Jucato> it depends on the app
[03:38] <gnomefreak> yes on gnome it does
[03:38] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:38] <Jucato> afaik
[03:38] <Jucato> maybe a command line argument? you can modify the launcher by right-clicking on the icon and selecting Configure _____ Button...
[03:41] <gnomefreak> not that easy ive been trying different things in config
[03:46] (RoKFiT/#kubuntu) keyboard shortcuts to apps are hard in kde, because everything starts with a k, lol.
[03:51] (majnoon/#kubuntu) there IS a kde program the you can click on a icon in bar at botom and it mounts extra drives and etc (can't find it ) kwikdisk or similar name
[03:51] (majnoon/#kubuntu) !kwikdisk
[03:51] (ubotu/#kubuntu) Sorry, I don't know anything about kwikdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:52] <majnoon> !kwikdisc
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwikdisc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <genjix> ksoviet@ksoviet:~$ sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[03:56] <genjix> bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied
[03:56] <genjix> ksoviet@ksoviet:~$ ls -l /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[03:56] <genjix> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2006-12-05 14:56 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[03:56] <genjix> ???
[03:58] <genjix> why I get 'permission denied'?
[03:58] <majnoon> Jucato: is there a gui program to help set up ALL settings on this box ??
[03:58] <majnoon> help others first though
[03:59] <Jucato> majnoon: none that I know of. even KControl is a bit limited, imho
[03:59] <Jucato> genjix: the command is basically 2 parts "echo 1" (which echoes '1' and "> /proc/blahblahblah"
[04:00] <Jucato> genjix: the command is basically 2 parts "echo 1" (which echoes '1') and "> /proc/blahblahblah" (which writes the output into the file)
[04:00] <Jucato> the sudo only works for the first part
[04:00] <Jucato> afaik
[04:00] <genjix> ahhh
[04:00] <Jucato> that's just afaik
[04:00] <majnoon> i have port reflect for smtp (through no-ip) need to set smtp to something OTHER then 25 and WANT a gui to setup apache2
[04:01] <genjix> Jucato: works ;)
[04:01] <genjix> sudo echo "1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[04:01] <Jucato> better check if it did write that...
[04:01] <Jucato> looks a bit.. um.. fishy
[04:01] <genjix> hmm, no it didn't :P
[04:01] <majnoon> Jucato:  i have port reflect for smtp (through no-ip) need to set smtp to something OTHER then 25 and WANT a gui to setup apache2
[04:02] <Lynoure> echo "1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"  just echoes the quoted bit.
[04:02] <genjix> ok nano did it
[04:02] <Jucato> majnoon: sorry, I'm not networking or apache expert...
[04:02] <Jucato> genjix: :)
[04:02] <majnoon> thought you might know good place to START looking though
[04:03] <LjL> echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[04:03] <majnoon> if you try google you get like 2
[04:03] <LjL> or, with sudo,   sudo sh -c "echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[04:03] <Jucato> LjL: needs sudo, I think
[04:03] <majnoon> TRILLION answers
[04:03] <LjL> Jucato: if you're not root already, it sure does.
[04:03] <majnoon> sudo su ??
[04:04] <Jucato> sudo sh
[04:04] <LjL> sudo echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward will never work, because the redirection is done by the shell, which is not running as root
[04:05] <LjL> so you need sudo to execute a shell (sh) and make it run the entire command as root
[04:05] <Jucato> ah there..  a better explanation :)
[04:05] <Jucato> actually a correct one.. mine was inaccurate
[04:05] <genjix> brb
[04:05] <trappist> I use tee for stuff like that
[04:06] <LjL> trappist: there are probably a ton possible way. honestly, i think i just mostly use "sudo -i", do what i need to do, and exit
[04:06] <LjL> but the important point is understanding why a straight sudo blah > blah doesn't work
[04:06] <trappist> yeah :)
[04:11] <chopin|pc> is there anything that will handle itunes podcast protocols for kubuntu?
[04:11] <trappist> chopin|pc: amarok
[04:11] <cloakable> chopin|pc: Amarok
[04:11] <chopin|pc> oh, and is it possible to upgrade in-place from dapper to edgy?
[04:12] <chopin|pc> ah, cool
[04:12] <trappist> chopin|pc: yes
[04:12] <LjL> !upgrade
[04:12] <chopin|pc> trappist: anything special i should do?  adept?
[04:12] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:12] <chopin|pc> woo thx
[04:12] <majnoon> chopin|pc:  me warn you it WILL take a while though
[04:12] <The_Machine> okay, i just booted kubuntu for the first time (long time gnome user).  How do i change the mouse settings so i have to double click stuff?!
[04:13] <The_Machine> i can't find it on any damn menu
[04:13] <The_Machine> this is crazy.
[04:13] <chopin|pc> majnoon: word ... i'll wait for it ;-)
[04:13] <Jucato> The_Machine: System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Mouse (if you're on Edgy)
[04:13] <trappist> chopin|pc: eh, I think there's supposed to be a "better" way to do it, but I just said sudo perl -pi -e 's/dapper/edgy/' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:13] <majnoon> ok just waring ,it easy enough the I COULD DO IT though
[04:14] <majnoon> !upgrade
[04:14] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:14] <LjL> trappist: is sed unavailable on your box? :P
[04:14] <majnoon> may be more typing BUT it EASY
[04:14] <The_Machine> Jucato: i do not see System Settings > Keyboard and mouse
[04:14] <ckd> everybody knows when kernel 2.6.18 releasd  in *ubuntu ???
[04:15] <Jucato> The_Machine: are you on Dapper? then it would be System Settings -> Mouse only (iirc)
[04:15] <majnoon> <<starting to LOVE *ubuntu
[04:15] <The_Machine> Edgy.  I don't see "mouse"
[04:15] <The_Machine> me too majnoon
[04:16] <Jucato> The_Machine: are you sure you're running System Settings?
[04:16] <The_Machine> Jucato: where do i find system settings?
[04:16] <Jucato> K Menu -> System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse
[04:16] <The_Machine> i'm clicking on the "K"
[04:16] <The_Machine> and i see "System" and "Settings"
[04:16] <The_Machine> (I don't see "System Settings")
[04:16] <Jucato> O.o
[04:16] <The_Machine> lol
[04:16] <majnoon> BEST part no can get decss from they BUT they say it over >>>>>here and here how you INSTALL  it  (but you no here it HERE)
[04:16] <The_Machine> FRESH install.
[04:17] <Jucato> It should be there, beneath Help
[04:17] <The_Machine> heh, nope
[04:17] <The_Machine> okay, i'll look for it though.
[04:17] <The_Machine> haha
[04:17] <trappist> LjL: I've gotten in the habit of using that perlism for some reason
[04:17] <Jucato> The_Machine: press Alt+F2, type in "systemsettings"
[04:17] <majnoon> The_Machine: look at my last line :)
[04:18] <Jucato> I'm quite dubious about your fresh install.... if it doesn't include System Settings..
[04:18] <The_Machine> i guess i could have explained better
[04:18] <The_Machine> you're correct to be dubious
[04:18] <majnoon> Jucato: how get sytem clock to know BIOS clock NOT   UTC ??
[04:18] <The_Machine> fresh install of kubuntu-desktop after i had installed Ubuntu
[04:18] <The_Machine> i didn't install kubuntu proper.
[04:19] <The_Machine> I did mislead, although i didn't mean to.
[04:19] <Jucato> kubuntu-desktop is supposed to install all Kubuntu defaults, including systemsettings.
[04:19] <abattoir> The_Machine: that doesn't matter, it should still be there
[04:19] <majnoon> kubuntu sent me a cdrom
[04:19] <The_Machine> Okay, well that is what i did.  Straight-up.
[04:19] <Jucato> but probably hidden, because of some conflict with gnome's menus
[04:19] <The_Machine> if i type systemsettings i'm not getting it
[04:19] <The_Machine> so..
[04:19] <The_Machine> it's probably not installed :)
[04:19] <Jucato> did you try launching it from Alt+F2? "systemsettings"
[04:19] <The_Machine> (that would explain its absence)
[04:20] <The_Machine> yes, i did
[04:20] <The_Machine> didn't find it.
[04:20] <The_Machine> maybe there was a problem downloading the package
[04:20] <Jucato> not installed then.
[04:20] <The_Machine> trying apt now
[04:20] <Jucato> The_Machine: try running kcontrol
[04:20] <LjL> The_Machine: "apt-cache policy kubuntu-desktop", is it installed?
[04:20] <scythe128> which rc script am I going to want to modify to run jackd on startup?  is it rc2.d? or should I create one?
[04:21] <The_Machine> could not find the specified command, Jucato
[04:21] <Jucato> hm... I guess your installation of kubuntu-desktop didn't finish
[04:21] <The_Machine> kubuntu-desktop:
[04:21] <The_Machine>   Installed: (none)
[04:21] <The_Machine>   Candidate: 1.22
[04:21] <The_Machine>   Version table:
[04:21] <The_Machine>      1.22 0
[04:21] <The_Machine>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages
[04:21] <majnoon> Jucato: how get sytem clock to know BIOS clock NOT   UTC ??
[04:21] <The_Machine> sorry, bad paste.
[04:22] <LjL> The_Machine: so it's not installed... sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:22] <The_Machine> how can i be in kde then?  hehe.  oh well.  I'll install it again.
[04:22] <The_Machine> and it gave me the setup
[04:22] <The_Machine> must have installed KDE and not the rest of the packages.
[04:22] <LjL> The_Machine: what setup?
[04:22] <The_Machine> the KDE setup
[04:22] <Jucato> kpersonalizer perhaps
[04:22] <LjL> The_Machine: what KDE setup? the wizard?
[04:22] <The_Machine> pick my keyboard, language, etc.
[04:22] <The_Machine> yeah
[04:22] <The_Machine> yeah, the wizard.
[04:23] <LjL> if it's kpersonalizer, then it's not kubuntu-desktop that you installed
[04:23] <LjL> but kde-core or something
[04:23] <LjL> !kde
[04:23] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[04:23] <BluesKaj> Jucato, there are problems with jack in edgy ...been trying to setup jackeq , term output says this: Cannot contact JACK server, is it running?
[04:23] <The_Machine> i did install kubuntu-desktop but it must have not finished.  will do it now.  THanks!
[04:23] <LjL> The_Machine: well, it's strange because kubuntu-desktop does *not* install kpersonalizer AFAIK
[04:23] <The_Machine> it's downloading stuff now.
[04:23] <The_Machine> LJL - i didn't do anything special
[04:24] <The_Machine> i just did (in gnome) sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:24] <Jucato> BluesKaj: sorry, no idea.. :(
[04:24] <The_Machine> but it's all good
[04:24] <The_Machine> it's d/lding now.
[04:24] <The_Machine> brb
[04:24] <The_Machine> heh, system settings is there now.
[04:24] <The_Machine> (!)
[04:24] <The_Machine> should i restart X?
[04:25] <gnomefreak> LjL: your correct its not installed with -desktop
[04:25] <LjL> The_Machine: i'd do that, to check that everything is ok with KDE
[04:25] <RoKFiT> where is the nvidia bootsplash located?
[04:25] <The_Machine> alright.  how do i check that everything is ok?  :)
[04:25] <The_Machine> i mean, in general.
[04:26] <The_Machine> very used to NT system logs
[04:26] <LjL> anyway if you have kpersonalizer installed it probably means you have other KDE stuff that is not strictly kubuntu installed
[04:26] <The_Machine> LjL: strange
[04:26] <The_Machine> brb guys.
[04:26] <LjL> The_Machine: question's a bit too general :)
[04:26] <gnomefreak> !nvidia | RoKFiT
[04:26] <ubotu> RoKFiT: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:26] <gnomefreak> RoKFiT: its there one that link
[04:26] <The_Machine> brb.
[04:26] <LjL> The_Machine: i'd try an "apt-cache policy kdebase". this should /not/ be installed, on a plain kubuntu-desktop installation
[04:26] <RoKFiT> the bootsplash is?
[04:27] <gnomefreak> RoKFiT: it tells you how to disable it enable it
[04:27] <The_Machine> not installed.
[04:27] <RoKFiT> oh sweet!
[04:27] <gnomefreak> afaik you cant change it
[04:27] <RoKFiT> thanks
[04:27] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:27] <LjL> RoKFiT: my guess is that it's located inside a nvidia driver binary
[04:28] <LjL> so either get yourself a hex editor... or just disable it ;)
[04:28] <fabian_> how to tell gcc where to search for the header files first?
[04:29] <LjL> fabian_: gcc -I/some/directory
[04:29] <fabian_> i mean everytime
[04:29] <fabian_> my gcc can't find stdlib etc.
[04:29] <RoKFiT> thank you guys
[04:29] <trappist> fabian_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:29] <RoKFiT> command gedit not found
[04:30] <LjL> RoKFiT: hardy can find it, if you're running KDE ;-)
[04:30] <LjL> use kate instead
[04:30] <fabian_> thx
[04:30] <LjL> "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf", if that's what you're up to
[04:31] <LjL> !compiling
[04:31] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:32] <RoKFiT> it should work
[04:32] <ubuntu> hello any one there
[04:33] <LjL> !hi
[04:33] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:33] <RoKFiT> thank you LjL
[04:33] <ubuntu> wow a chat client that works
[04:33] <RoKFiT> new phone isn't working right
[04:33] <trappist> so I'm trying to mkinitrd for my freshly built kernel (since make install didn't do it for me) and I get "/usr/sbin/mkinitrd: 253:0: Cannot find LVM device".  anybody know why?
[04:33] <RoKFiT> shuffle is broken on mp3 player
[04:34] <ubuntu> I'm considering swapping ubuntu to kubuntu, just trying it live. Any one got an opinion
[04:34] <LjL> ubuntu: you're in #kubuntu - that leads me to guess most people here like it
[04:34] <trappist> ubuntu: we all probably prefer kubuntu.  might get a different answer in #ubuntu.
[04:34] <ubuntu> sorry
[04:35] <ubuntu> It feels nice
[04:35] <BluesKaj> it'a a matter of taste between kubuntu and ubuntu as in KDE  vs Gnome
[04:36] <LjL> ubuntu: it may be worth mentioning that you can use KDE on Ubuntu, or Gnome on Kubuntu. Ubuntu and Kubuntu are really the same distribution, they just come with different packages installed by default
[04:36] <LjL> !kde
[04:36] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[04:36] <xsacha> huh? novell is forking OOo?
[04:36] <apokryphos> that's absolute rubbish
[04:37] <xsacha> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061204130954610
[04:37] <apokryphos> just your average FUD from groklaw
[04:37] <ubuntu> the only time i've tried kde was on suse but didn't like yum
[04:37] <apokryphos> xsacha: if that's a fork then every Linux distribution has also "forked" the linux kernel
[04:37] <gnomefreak> is kerry lighter than beagle in ram and cpu usage?
[04:38] <apokryphos> xsacha: Novell provides more developers for OOo than any other Linux distribution
[04:38] <LjL> gnomefreak: ... isn't kerry just a frontend to beagle?
[04:38] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: kerry is but a front-end to beagle
[04:38] <lenscape> gnomefreak: kerry is just a front-end for beagle
[04:38] <apokryphos> yes
[04:38] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[04:38] <apokryphos> older versions of beagle were intensive, but the latest versions are very very good with CPU usage
[04:39] <apokryphos> I have it running all the time on my machine, and my gf's lower end (1.6ghz, 500 RAM) machine
[04:39] <apokryphos> but I'm not sure if ubuntu have got beagle set up just right, actually
[04:39] <klerfayt> why is my data dvd mounted as cdrom0?
[04:39] <cloakable> apokryphos: Tracker is easy to set up :)
[04:40] <apokryphos> I haven't used it before
[04:40] <apokryphos> beagle is a lot more widely used so I'm more inclined to it
[04:40] <apokryphos> also the fact that it's integrated into my menu is a plus ;-)
[04:41] <cloakable> :P
[04:41] <cloakable> apokryphos: Windows is more widely used than Linux :P
[04:42] <apokryphos> it's a valid point for using Windows, but it's hardly definitive
[04:42] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: if you've got that much, yeah, you should get a newer pc :P
[04:42] <gnomefreak> this is a fairly new pc :(
[04:43] <gnomefreak> its a 1.7 proc and 256 ram but the ram is weird
[04:43] <apokryphos> cloakable: beagle seems to have some top developers working on it
[04:43] <apokryphos> I don't think it's the case that developers are lacking in quality there
[04:43] <klerfayt> gnomefreak: memtest then
[04:43] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: fairly new -- how many years?
[04:44] <cloakable> apokryphos: Then why did it do nasty things to my system, and why is it mono based? :(
[04:44] <gnomefreak> not sure maybe 2-3
[04:44] <gnomefreak> years
[04:44] <fangorious> i have the 6.10 install cd booted, and qtparted seems unable to read my partition table: "Critical error during ped_disk_duplicate!". Running it from konsole it reports the error as a parted bug, but gparted doesn't have the same problem
[04:44] <apokryphos> cloakable: I'm not convinced that mono is evil, and where are you using, and what versions did you use?
[04:44] <inteliwasp> is it posible to reinstall kubuntu while keeping the home folder from being over writen?
[04:45] <apokryphos> inteliwasp: if you have your /home on a seperate partition
[04:45] <gnomefreak> klerfayt: no not bad ram just not normal ram (cant buy ram in stores) its some high dollar crap
[04:45] <inteliwasp> apokryphos:  er nope
[04:45] <cloakable> apokryphos: Right now? Kubuntu 6.10, Tracker 0.5.2.
[04:45] <fangorious> inteliwasp: or if you choose to not format the / partition (assuming you don't do any repartitiongin)
[04:45] <cloakable> And mono is jit compiling - precompiled binaries are smaller and faster, IME.
[04:45] <apokryphos> cloakable: I haven't used beagle on ubuntu lately, so I can't be sure. But I heard complaints in a few discussions about how ubuntu has beagle set up
[04:46] <klerfayt> anyone here with dvd reader and kubuntu feisty?
[04:46] <apokryphos> I know it runs very very smoothly on my suse machines. Maybe I should investigate on ubuntu with it
[04:46] <cloakable> apokryphos: Why is it so difficult to set up?
[04:46] <apokryphos> cloakable: I haven't seen anywhere that it is
[04:46] <apokryphos> of course there should be 0 setup effort from the user
[04:46] <krusher-de> is it safe to use edgy packages for dapper?
[04:46] <apokryphos> just the developers determine how it's run
[04:46] <apokryphos> krusher-de: nope
[04:46] <trappist> krusher-de: no
[04:47] <inteliwasp> fangorious:  will that erase all of the rest of the partition for copying from cd? i am basicly downgrading from 6.10 to 6.061
[04:47] <gnomefreak> its rdram :(
[04:47] <cloakable> apokryphos: Tracker worked from install for me.
[04:47] <trappist> krusher-de: if there's one you want real bad, get the source package and rebuild it
[04:47] <apokryphos> cloakable: tracker or beagle look to be set to be implemented by default in feisty
[04:47] <luca> ragazi
[04:47] <ubuntu> how do i exit a programe that going nuts
[04:47] <luca> ma come faccio ad entrare su un caneale
[04:47] <ubuntu> krita
[04:48] <apokryphos> ubuntu: ctrl+alt+esc -> click on window
[04:48] <cloakable> apokryphos: Easy enough to disable :)
[04:48] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: try killall krita
[04:48] <ubuntu> thank you
[04:48] <apokryphos> cloakable: hopefully we won't have people wanting to do that 8)
[04:49] <scythe128> is there a way to run something automatically after kde has loaded?
[04:49] <apokryphos> ubotu: autostart
[04:49] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[04:49] <krusher-de> then if a package i want to install has dependencies that are for edgy versions, i have to rebuild each one?
[04:49] <apokryphos> scythe128: put an executable file in ~/.kde/Autostart
[04:49] <scythe128> thanks apokryphos
[04:50] <cloakable> apokryphos: Depends on many things: Microsoft FUD, if Beagle works well or not, etc.
[04:50] <apokryphos> cloakable: which of those depend on microsoft fud?
[04:50] <cloakable> apokryphos: mono.
[04:50] <zorglu_> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ <- can you try to connect this page and tell me if it connects please
[04:50] <TheGateKeeper> krusher-de: what are you trying to install?
[04:50] <ubuntu> is there a way of changing the sleeping dragon to somthing else
[04:50] <fangorious> intelliwasp: if you don't format, it will only overwrite commonly named files/folders
[04:50] <apokryphos> cloakable: I don't think anyone in Linux is seriously considering that
[04:51] <apokryphos> i.e. afraid of including mono apps in their distro
[04:51] <zorglu_> it is working again, nevermin d :)
[04:51] <cloakable> apokryphos: Personally, I hope for tracker inclusion in Feisty. No mono dependency, faster even now, lighter on the memory, etc.
[04:52] <krusher-de> TheGateKeeper: themanaworld. i tried their dapper package but it won't work either.
[04:52] <cloakable> apokryphos: Right now, my trackerd is at 4MB.
[04:52] <apokryphos> cloakable: haven't done any tests so can't verify that
[04:52] <zorglu_> cloakable: tried strigi ?
[04:53] <cloakable> zorglu_: Not really. Strigi is KDE specific, isn't it?
[04:53] <zorglu_> cloakable: not sure of the current status, but i know the author try not to
[04:53] <inteliwasp> fangorious:  well i suppose i can wait for my other computer to be fixed before i redo my laptop... (i played way too much with it ;P  )
[04:54] <lupul> can anyone tell me pls how to install the ati driver in edgy. i'm new on linux
[04:54] <cloakable> zorglu_: And does it have Ubuntu packages? :)
[04:54] <lupul> !install.run
[04:54] <fangorious> inteliwasp: i hear ya
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install.run - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <zorglu_> !info strigi
[04:54] <ubotu> Package strigi does not exist in any distro I know
[04:54] <zorglu_> cloakable: apparently not. but i though the author did some work on this... i missing something
[04:55] <cloakable> zorglu_: Tracker isn't in Ubuntu either, but the debs exist on the site :)
[04:55] <cloakable> !tracker
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tracker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <cloakable> !info tracker
[04:55] <ubotu> Package tracker does not exist in any distro I know
[04:55] <lupul> pls tell me how to start a run package
[04:56] <scythe128> lupul try sudo sh ./install.run
[04:57] <lupul> k
[04:57] <ubuntu__> #eglug@irc.freenode.org
[04:57] <scythe128> !nvidia drivers
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:57] <_claudio> Ola galera ??
[04:57] <klerfayt> dev/scd0 is audio cd in fstab?
[04:57] <inteliwasp> scythe128:  try !nvidia
[04:57] <LjL> !nvidia | scythe128
[04:57] <ubotu> scythe128: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:57] <_claudio> Estou com uma  duvia .."  Ao tentar  instalar o windowmaker "
[04:57] <LjL> !pt | _claudio
[04:57] <ubotu> _claudio: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:57] <lupul> it works. thanks
[04:58] <_claudio> da  um erro X11
[04:58] <zorglu_> http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=strigi&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all <- cloakable
[04:58] <scythe128> thanks ljl, lupul you might want to check out that page that ubotu just told me to go look at
[04:58] <_claudio> #ubuntu-br
[04:58] <Linux_Freek> hey..
[04:58] <_claudio> ola
[04:58] <LjL> _claudio: tenes que escribir /join #ubuntu-br por entrar
[04:59] <Linux_Freek> anyone tried feisty daily build ?
[04:59] <TheGateKeeper> krusher-de: http://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopic.php?t=1870
[04:59] <LjL> !feisty
[04:59] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is pre-alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[04:59] <lupul> wow
[04:59] <lupul> a little complicated there
[04:59] <_claudio> no consigo instalar o "windowmaker" alguem sabe o nome  do pacote  no "apt " ou seila
[04:59] <zorglu_> http://fboudra.free.fr/ubuntu/edgy/ <- cloakable for more recent one
[04:59] <cloakable> o.o
[04:59] <scythe128> I am writing a script to start a server... jackd to be exact... I want jackd to run in the background and not to keep my console window tied up.  How do I do that?
[05:00] <Linux_Freek> i downloaded then 20061204 build
[05:00] <zorglu_> cloakable: i knew he did some work on it
[05:00] <Linux_Freek> i downloaded the alternate install cd and it could not mount the cd itslef.. u think thats a bug ?
[05:00] <cloakable> Heh
[05:00] <Linux_Freek> itself*
[05:00] <_claudio> helow
[05:01] <_claudio> Alguem responde  .. ??
[05:01] <gnomefreak> !es
[05:01] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:01] <_claudio> Galera.
[05:01] <_claudio> alguem que  possa  ajudar !!
[05:01] <Dink> !br
[05:01] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[05:01] <_claudio> sobre  windowmaker
[05:02] <Linux_Freek> cloakable: u tired it ?
[05:02] <Bulwinkle> or speak english
[05:02] <cloakable> Linux_Freek: Nope. I'm using Tracker :P
[05:03] <Linux_Freek> what`s that ?
[05:04] <Linux_Freek> cloakable: what`s tracker
[05:04] <cloakable> Linux_Freek: Search tool similar to Beagle, but grabs metadata, etc. And faster x.x And smaller.
[05:04] <Linux_Freek> Oh..
[05:04] <Linux_Freek> cloakable: no.. I asked u if you tried kubutu 7.04 daily build ?
[05:04] <cloakable> Heh
[05:05] <cloakable> No, Edgy is edgy enough for me.
[05:05] <Linux_Freek> Heh
[05:05] <krusher-de> TheGateKeeper: as in the post, i get "tmw: error while loading shared libraries: libcurl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" i checked with adept, but it says libcurl is installed. weird.
[05:06] <Bulwinkle> krusher-de: you should make sure there is a symlink for libcurl that links it to libcurl.so.2
[05:07] <TheGateKeeper> krusher-de: do a file search for libcurl.so.2 see if it really there
[05:08] <Vladdy> ugh
[05:08] <Vladdy> looks like I'll have to build kernel from source
[05:08] <Vladdy> :-/
[05:08] <trappist> krusher-de: in edgy, it's libcurl.so.3 - you could try making a symlink
[05:09] <trappist> krusher-de: or, if you have acroread installed, you could link to /usr/lib/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Reader/intellinux/lib/libcurl.so.2
[05:09] <TheGateKeeper> krusher-de: you could also check using the command line: apt-cache search <whatever> or dpkg -S filename
[05:10] <krusher-de> how to symlink? sorry i've only used linux for about a week...
[05:10] <Vladdy> ln -s libcurl.so.3 /usr/lib/libcurl.so.2
[05:10] <trappist> krusher-de: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libcurl.so.3 /usr/lib/libcurl.so.2
[05:11] <Snake> Hmmmmm
[05:11] <Snake> Havnt been here for a while
[05:12] <krusher-de> hey, it's running! thanks lots guys :P
[05:12] <The_Machine> just did a 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and now when i try to boot i get this error (when i choose the newest kernel):  RAMDISK:  ran out of compressed data.  Kernel panic - not syncing VFS.  Unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0)
[05:12] <krusher-de> btw, used the symlink thing
[05:12] <The_Machine> please help?  :)
[05:12] <The_Machine> poor linux.
[05:12] <fangorious> qtparted is giving me an error in a parted function and can't read the partition table, so I can't install from the kubuntu 6.10 cd. gparted works, so i could boot the ubuntu cd, install, then add kubuntu-desktop
[05:14] <trappist> The_Machine: hit esc at the grub prompt and boot to the old kernel
[05:14] <ubuntu> thats it I'm swapping
[05:14] <The_Machine> trappist: i'm in the old kernel now
[05:14] <The_Machine> booted successfully
[05:14] <The_Machine> how do i fix it so i can boot to the new one? :)
[05:15] <trappist> The_Machine: you seem to have a problem with your initrd.  you could try recreating it.
[05:15] <ubuntu> thanks for all you're help
[05:15] <ubuntu> back in a bit
[05:16] <The_Machine> trappist: can you put that in 'noob' terms?
[05:16] <trappist> The_Machine: like, sudo mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-(version) (version)
[05:16] <The_Machine> heh
[05:16] <trappist> The_Machine: where (version) in both cases is the version of the new kernel, like 2.6.17-10-generic
[05:16] <The_Machine> i understand
[05:17] <trappist> The_Machine: may need to install initrd-tools first
[05:17] <The_Machine> i just ran Adept manager before my last boot
[05:18] <The_Machine> is there any way i can do an "undo" of whatever it last did?
[05:18] <The_Machine> this doesn't make sense to me.
[05:18] <trappist> The_Machine: not really, but you could uninstall the new kernel
[05:18] <The_Machine> uninstall and reinstall?
[05:19] <trappist> The_Machine: it would be easier to apt-get install --reinstall, if you want to go that way
[05:19] <The_Machine> something got corrupted from the apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or from running adept
[05:19] <The_Machine> hmm.  yeah, reinstall..
[05:21] <lupul> can anyone tell me which is the command to start opendcd?
[05:22] <JuJuBee> When installing realplayer for linux, it asks where to intall.  Where should I tell it to install?  Should this be installed as root?
[05:22] <_vge> arent realplayer in repos?
[05:23] <TheGateKeeper> _vge: 1 min
[05:23] <_vge> yup it is
[05:24] <TheGateKeeper> _vge:
[05:24] <TheGateKeeper> wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/r/realplay/realplayer_10.0.7-0.0_i386.deb
[05:24] <TheGateKeeper> sudo dpkg -i realplayer_10.0.7-0.0_i386.deb
[05:24] <_vge> TheGateKeeper: i have realplayer installed from repos, JuJuBee here was asking for it
[05:24] <The_Machine> trappist: does apt-get install --reinstall .... reinstall everything?
[05:24] <The_Machine> (freaky :)
[05:25] <TheGateKeeper> _vge: give him what I pasted then :-)
[05:25] <JuJuBee> I got it, thanks.  I am trying it now.
[05:26] <JuJuBee> Where should I  install it?
[05:26] <JuJuBee> Location...
[05:26] <Dr_willis> !realplayer
[05:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:26] <TheGateKeeper> iirc what is in the repos is some 'pain-in the-ass' meta package
[05:27] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. i cant even rember the last time i used realplayer
[05:28] <JuJuBee> Thanks The GateKeeper, it works.   Thanks heaps!!!!
[05:28] <_vge> i guess i get that too as it's newer than i had
[05:28] <TheGateKeeper> JuJuBee: yw :-)
[05:31] <The_Machine> what is the file called to edit grub?  (like, the list of kernels and "other operating systems" that appear in the boot list)?  I did a search for grub.conf but it isn't bringing up anything.
[05:31] <armel> salut
[05:31] <Jucato> The_Machine: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:31] <The_Machine> thanks
[05:32] <PhinnFort> how can i install yakuake?
[05:32] <PhinnFort> adept is rather confusing...
[05:32] <armel> il y a des francais ladedan ?
[05:32] <Jucato> PhinnFort: sudo apt-get install yakuake :)
[05:32] <bacarden> Cleaver
[05:32] <Jucato> !fr | armel
[05:32] <ubotu> armel: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:32] <armel> ok
[05:32] <_vge> kuake o.4 ftw
[05:32] <PhinnFort> Jucato: heh, i switched to kubuntu from gentoo to get away from cli's;)
[05:33] <Jucato> PhinnFort: in Adept Manager, just start typing in the name of the app, and the filter will show it
[05:33] <artusom> Hello all, Wonder if someone might shed some light on a startup problem. with edgy -- wont startx with my nvida 7600 sli cards
[05:33] <PhinnFort> Jucato: "E: Couldn't find package yakuake"
[05:33] <PhinnFort> Jucato: although: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/kde/yakuake
[05:33] <Jucato> !yakuake
[05:33] <ubotu> yakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB
[05:33] <_vge> PhinnFort: might also wanna try Synaptic as i have allways find it more userfriendly
[05:33] <Jucato> PhinnFort: do you have "universe" enabled?
[05:34] <PhinnFort> Jucato: i believe so
[05:34] <PhinnFort> i might have forgotten to "update"...
[05:34] <Jucato> probably
[05:35] <Dr_willis> well Sabayon LInux lasted 2 days on this machine....
[05:35] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:35] <Dr_willis> back to Kubuntu
[05:36] <Jucato> O.o
[05:36] <Jucato> Kubuntu lasted 11 months (and counting)
[05:36] <Dr_willis> i do a clean install of the ubuntus every 6 mo. :)
[05:36] <Jucato> so do I :)
[05:36] <Jucato> lol
[05:36] <Dr_willis> actually i installed 'linux mint' on my laptop the other day
[05:37] <Jucato> but it's still Kubuntu
[05:37] <PhinnFort> well, gentoo lasted 3~ years, now compiling everything takes a very long time...
[05:37] <_vge> toke me 1 year to get slacware running, does that count as "usage"?
[05:37] <bacarden> :D
[05:37] <PhinnFort> :P
[05:37] <Dr_willis> Theres getting to be way too much focus on 'we allready set up all the eye candy for you as our main feature' disrtos. :)
[05:37] <PhinnFort> how do i get colors in my bash again?
[05:37] <PhinnFort> could someone post their .bashrc?
[05:37] <Dr_willis> ls --color
[05:38] <Dr_willis> alias ls = 'ls --color'
[05:38] <PhinnFort> my bashrc is for gentoo, alas
[05:38] <BluesKaj> vge, that's called persistence
[05:39] <PhinnFort> !codeine
[05:39] <ubotu> codeine: Simple KDE video player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.dfsg-1 (edgy), package size 163 kB, installed size 576 kB
[05:43] <Dr_willis> !morphine
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about morphine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:44] <PhinnFort> :P
[05:44] <PhinnFort> codeine is simply the best media player for kde
[05:44] <BluesKaj> why ?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> Ya know.. looking at 'medicine' names - i am amazed at the lack of creativity in some programing naming/disrto namings. :)
[05:45] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: try it;)
[05:45] <Dr_willis> Zantex Linux - with purple theme.!
[05:45] <Dr_willis> "Nexuim Linux' reduces hartburn!
[05:45] <BluesKaj> whynot kaffeine, PhinnFort ?
[05:45] <PhinnFort> kaffeine sucks bollocks, compared to codeine
[05:45] <PhinnFort> at least in usabilty
[05:45] <PhinnFort> *bility
[05:45] <BluesKaj> it's one thing to name call, jhow about some reasons ?
[05:46] <scythe128>  I wrote a script to execute 1 command, I placed it in .kde/Autostart, it wont autostart, any suggestion?
[05:46] <PhinnFort> scythe128: have you set the executable bit?
[05:46] <Dr_willis> ive been trying to track down a video player that i can set where on every time it goes to the next video in theplaylist - it auto-jumps ahead like  2:00 min...
[05:46] <PhinnFort> chmod +x [name] 
[05:46] <BluesKaj> does codeine record live video ..like off a tv tuner ?
[05:46] <scythe128> chmod 777 it
[05:46] <Dr_willis> to skip over the lame intro song/titlesnimations
[05:46] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:46] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: codeine just plays my movies, and it does it well:P
[05:46] <scythe128> what is the difference between 777 and +x
[05:47] <PhinnFort> it's like media player classic for windows
[05:47] <PhinnFort> scythe128: 777 is bad
[05:47] <Dr_willis> 777 is +EVERYTHING isent it. :)
[05:47] <PhinnFort> it gives everyone rights to do everything
[05:47] <Dr_willis> try it on a test file.
[05:47] <Dr_willis> touch testme
[05:47] <PhinnFort> touch me
[05:47] <scythe128> Thats fine by me
[05:47] <Dr_willis> chmod 777 testme
[05:47] <Dr_willis> ls -l testme
[05:47] <scythe128> I am the only user
[05:47] <PhinnFort> chmod +x just gives executable bit
[05:47] <scythe128> so its the same as a chmod 111 then
[05:48] <PhinnFort> no, it only sets it for your own user, afaik
[05:48] <Dr_willis> scythe128,  such 'thinking' is the reason a lot of people learn bad security habbits. :)
[05:48] <PhinnFort> a+x = 111, afaik
[05:48] <PhinnFort> Dr_willis: agreed
[05:48] <Vladdy> chmod 755 or 644 ;p
[05:48] <PhinnFort> just +x ffs
[05:48] <PhinnFort> :P
[05:49] <PhinnFort> am i allowed to ask easyubuntu related questions in here?
[05:49] <klerfayt> how do I / or is it possible to configure fstab so that cd will mounted as cds and dvds as dvds?
[05:49] <PhinnFort> like why it doesn't show a progress bar or anything?
[05:49] <Dr_willis> PhinnFort,  heh - ubuntu is so easy now.. i dont need easyubuntu :)
[05:49] <bacarden> :(
[05:49] <PhinnFort> Dr_willis: :P
[05:49] <scythe128> Dr_willis, it is a file that I want running at all times anyways.  I want it running for all users.  I want it running at startup... everyone will have access to it anyways.
[05:49] <PhinnFort> scythe128: why bother writing a character more?
[05:50] <scythe128> Unless the have permission to write to my home directory... or read my home directory.. the file is already covered
[05:50] <scythe128> because I learned on solaris and I am more comfortable with the numbers over the letters
[05:50] <PhinnFort> well, you ain't on solaris now, little boy;)
[05:50] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. to be executable by everyone.. they need read access to the file/dirs i think.
[05:50] <bacarden> where do i have games on this pc?
[05:51] <Dr_willis> bacarden,  i have several in the menus.. or fire up adept and install some more
[05:51] <PhinnFort> bacarden: install them, i think;)
[05:51] <Dr_willis> bacarden,  theres a ubuntu games wiki page also that details/reviews a lot of games also.
[05:51] <scythe128> lets put it this way, root cannot logon, scythe is the only user... think I am really worried about security?
[05:51] <PhinnFort> scythe128: you could get rooted
[05:51] <PhinnFort> :p
[05:51] <bacarden> but no one installed in the system?
[05:52] <scythe128> no remote logins allowed... cant be pinged
[05:52] <Dr_willis> one should ALWAYS worry about security
[05:52] <PhinnFort> bacarden: noone here, anyways
[05:52] <bacarden> hm
[05:52] <scythe128> hehe
[05:52] <PhinnFort> does bastille support (k)ubuntu?
[05:53] <PhinnFort> !bastille
[05:53] <scythe128> Doc, this machine only touches the net once a week.. from behind several firewalls
[05:53] <ubotu> bastille: Security hardening tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.1.1-12 (edgy), package size 358 kB, installed size 1508 kB
[05:53] <Dr_willis> PhinnFort,  hmm.. not tried that in ages.
[05:53] <PhinnFort> Dr_willis: me neither, used it when i set up my gentoo machine
[05:53] <Dr_willis> PhinnFort,  bastille was a 'big' thing a few years.. now this is the first ive heard of it in ages.. heh
[05:53] <PhinnFort> ;)
[05:54] <PhinnFort> how can i know what easyubuntu is doing?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> read the code.
[05:54] <Dr_willis> run it from a terminal.
[05:54] <PhinnFort> heh, i might have to rewrite it to make it show me some status
[05:54] <Dr_willis> last i used it.. there wasent much it did - that i couldent do by hand.
[05:54] <Dr_willis> sounds like some bug it has.
[05:54] <PhinnFort> i know, i just don't know what i should do by hand
[05:55] <PhinnFort> first time ubuntu;)
[05:55] <Dr_willis> It pays to learn how to do it by hand. :)
[05:55] <Dr_willis> and it pays to explore the wiki/guides. :)
[05:55] <PhinnFort> Dr_willis: is there some kind of semi-official ubuntu wiki?
[05:55] <Dr_willis> lets see... theres !java and !nvidia factoids and !wiki
[05:55] <Dr_willis> !wiki
[05:55] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[05:55] <Dr_willis> theres an official wiki. :)
[05:55] <The_Machine> does Adept updater conflict with Synaptic / Apt?
[05:56] <Dr_willis> The_Machine,  no. they are just front eneds to the apt-get system.
[05:56] <Dr_willis> I normally install synaptic first thing on Kubuntu. :)
[05:56] <scythe128> chmod +x adds x to all .. global.. user... and group
[05:56] <The_Machine> Dr_willis: i added a repo a while back, and it says that i have all of these python files to upgrade/update now
[05:57] <PhinnFort> scythe128: do u+x if you just want user
[05:57] <The_Machine> and those files are considered to be "dist" upgrades
[05:57] <PhinnFort> Dr_willis: isn't apt-get just a front-end to?
[05:57] <PhinnFort> to dpkg?
[05:57] <The_Machine> but when i try to install them, it fails
[05:57] <scythe128> ahhh
[05:57] <The_Machine> and they won't go away either.
[05:57] <The_Machine> Doh.
[05:57] <Dr_willis> PhinnFort,  everthing is a front end. :)
[05:57] <PhinnFort> ;)
[05:57] <The_Machine> PhinnFort: no, apt-get isn't a front end.  Synaptic is the front end of apt.
[05:57] <Dr_willis> i think every thing eventually calls 'dd'  in some way or another.
[05:57] <PhinnFort> lol
[05:57] <PhinnFort> dd runs the universe
[05:58] <Dr_willis> the apt  system is a bit hard to get  the 'big' picture of how all the programs interrelate.
[05:59] <PhinnFort> i'm very impressed by the speed of it, though
[05:59] <scythe128> anyways.. back to my question, any clue as to why it wouldn't run? it was executeable, in /home/scythe/.kde/Autostart
[05:59] <PhinnFort> compared to portage, written in python;)
[05:59] <PhinnFort> scythe128: what happens if you double click on it?
[05:59] <PhinnFort> i have several scripts in Autostart, python and bash, that run everytime i log in
[05:59] <scythe128> never tried, I could call it from term though and it worked fine
[06:00] <The_Machine> Dr_willis: i added a repo a while back, and it says that i have all of these python files to upgrade/update now and apt is considering them to be a 'dist upgrade'.  When i try to install them it fails, but they won't go away either.  Suggestion?
[06:01] <Dr_willis> The_Machine,   you dident remove that repo since then?
[06:01] <The_Machine> i have
[06:01] <The_Machine> but even though i update, it still shows them
[06:01] <Dr_willis> Id say put it back...
[06:01] <The_Machine> i can't see what repo it's coming from either..
[06:01] <Dr_willis> heh.
[06:01] <The_Machine> hmm
[06:02] <The_Machine> i don't even know if my repos are the same :/
[06:02] <Dr_willis> Yep.. i learned to just 'comment' out different repos..
[06:02] <Dr_willis> actually i try to avoide putting in all these 'other' repos heh
[06:04] <PhinnFort> !libxine-extracodecs
[06:04] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[06:04] <scythe128> double clicking tells me that I dont have permissions to read it
[06:05] <PhinnFort> scythe128: there you have your problem
[06:05] <scythe128> yup
[06:05] <PhinnFort> chown [username]  [file]  as root
[06:06] <PhinnFort> now, how do i get stuff from multiverse?
[06:06] <PhinnFort> what should i add to sources.list?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> !multiverse
[06:06] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:06] <scythe128> I was already the owner of it
[06:10] <The_Machine> How do i use the system log to troubleshoot why a program doesn't start up after i click on it?  (the icon bounces up and down, but the app doesn't start).  Little help as to why?
[06:10] <lenscape> The_Machine: open a Konsole window and run in there
[06:11] <fdoving> .. or look at ~/.xsession-errors
[06:11] <Dr_willis> The shell is our friend. :)
[06:12] <PhinnFort> how come i don't have DRI in (k)ubuntu, when i had the exact same Xorg in gentoo?
[06:12] <Dr_willis> You install the proper drivers yet? ati/nvidia?
[06:12] <PhinnFort> i used the open source r300 drivers
[06:13] <PhinnFort> but i guess i'll have to use the proprietary...
[06:13] <Dr_willis> !ati
[06:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:13] <Dr_willis> that would be my guess also.
[06:14] <The_Machine> lenscape: reinstalling the app worked.  Thanks for the tip (it showed me i should)
[06:14] <lenscape> The_Machine: cool
[06:15] <scythe128> woo, back and it worked
[06:15] <PhinnFort> scythe128: good:D
[06:15] <scythe128> I find it odd that I could execute the script from the cli but not by double clicking it.  I didn't even need to sudo from the cli
[06:16] <scythe128> gonna see if I can reproduce it
[06:16] <Norman> i installed dapper on my pc and i have now installed edgy on my wife pc. Where can i get info on the difference
[06:16] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu home page. :)
[06:16] <Norman> wiki
[06:16] <Dr_willis> !wiki
[06:16] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[06:17] <Dr_willis> might want to use edgy on both machines.
[06:18] <scythe128> not repeatable... musta been my ignorance :)
[06:18] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:18] <PhinnFort> bad karma?
[06:18] <Norman> why dapper is working fine i install dapper 3 weeks ago my first shot at linux
[06:18] <scythe128> hehe
[06:18] <PhinnFort> Norman: new and exciting features and stuff;)
[06:19] <scythe128> I havent ran over any gradmas in alteast three weeks... I have had all of my karma even'd out ;)
[06:19] <PhinnFort> lol
[06:19] <Norman> do i dare try a upgrade or from scrach
[06:19] <Dr_willis> i find it safer to clean install.
[06:19] <PhinnFort> Norman: keep your /home
[06:19] <Dr_willis> i keep /home on its own partition - so its rather trivial.
[06:20] <Norman> should i then greate a new partation and store my /home there
[06:21] <Dr_willis> I got a whole extra HD for my home. :)
[06:21] <PhinnFort> Norman: it will save you some time later
[06:21] <PhinnFort> how much pr0n DO you have?
[06:21] <PhinnFort> :P
[06:21] <Dr_willis> Anime torrents mainly.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:21] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:21] <Dr_willis> and Emulator roms
[06:22] <PhinnFort> i didn't think roms took much space
[06:22] <Norman> i do have 2 hd one has xp on it
[06:22] <Dr_willis> i got about 20gb of MAME roms.
[06:22] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:22] <PhinnFort> that's rather much, isn't it?
[06:22] <Dr_willis> thats for one emulator.. several dozen gb of amiga roms
[06:22] <PhinnFort> Norman: delete XP, and use that HD as /home
[06:22] <scythe128> I didnt think there were that many games for amiga
[06:22] <scythe128> lol
[06:22] <PhinnFort> :P
[06:22] <Dr_willis> considering theres some 4ooo+ mame games...
[06:23] <Norman> i need xp so i can do some work from home
[06:23] <scythe128> Phinn, what if he "has" to use it for important stuff like.....castle wolfinstein?
[06:23] <PhinnFort> then he gets wine
[06:23] <scythe128> what programs do you use Norman?  there may be viable alternatives out there that dont require much retraining
[06:24] <PhinnFort> *s/much//
[06:24] <Norman> what if i create  a new cadkey
[06:24] <Norman> the prg is cad key
[06:25] <scythe128> Phinn, wine is still beta... I wouldn't recommend it for that reason, but there are some compat problems with it still (and some programs are very pickey)
[06:25] <scythe128> that similar to autocad? or closer to visio
[06:25] <PhinnFort> scythe128: i've used it for a very long time
[06:25] <PhinnFort> it will never go out of beta
[06:25] <Norman> yes
[06:25] <scythe128> if closer to visio, might as well kill yourself  (jk)
[06:25] <PhinnFort> qcad
[06:25] <Vladdy> brrr
[06:26] <Vladdy> I should update my kernel.. bah.. too evil
[06:26] <PhinnFort> varicad also looks like a viable alternative
[06:26] <PhinnFort> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=11539
[06:26] <Norman> the file format have to be compatable
[06:26] <scythe128> phinn.... cad programs like to use very proprietary formats...
[06:26] <scythe128> thankx norman... was just trying to type that :)
[06:26] <PhinnFort> Norman: VariCAD supports STEP, STL, IGES, DWG and DXF file formats.
[06:27] <kliol> hi what means /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build not configured? i installed kernel header for kubuntu but when i become this when i compile some software that needs kernel
[06:27] <Norman> i will do some resaerch thanks
[06:27] <scythe128> how much retraining is he going to have to do though?  will it be close enough that he can be productive without spending 50 hours  a month in a support channel?
[06:27] <PhinnFort> scythe128: don't be so negative
[06:27] <PhinnFort> :D
[06:27] <PhinnFort> it will probably run in wine
[06:28] <Dr_willis> vmware is handy.
[06:28] <PhinnFort> yeah
[06:28] <Norman> i will try wine
[06:28] <scythe128> Dr. Willis, couldnt agree more
[06:28] <PhinnFort> Norman: it's getting very stable
[06:28] <scythe128> Phinn, I have found a few programs that still dont like to run right under it
[06:28] <Norman> ok will try tonight at home
[06:29] <PhinnFort> scythe128: examples?
[06:29] <scythe128> nero6
[06:29] <PhinnFort> and when did you last try them?
[06:29] <scythe128> a few months ago
[06:29] <PhinnFort> scythe128: nero has a native linux version
[06:29] <Dr_willis> nero under wine.. is sort of scary idea
[06:29] <PhinnFort> doesn't count;)
[06:29] <Dr_willis> nero-linux is rather pathic i hear. :)
[06:29] <scythe128> I know k3b...xcdroast....NeroLinux
[06:29] <PhinnFort> nero is bloated
[06:29] <scythe128> NeroLinux is not as full featured as Nero
[06:30] <Dr_willis> I use nero under windows for just a few things it makes easy...
[06:30] <PhinnFort> well, then that's a good thing(tm);)
[06:30] <PhinnFort> K3B makes my life happy
[06:30] <scythe128> I pretty much only use it
[06:30] <Dr_willis> wife wanted to make some 'dvd' slideshow disks of her old xmas pictures for xmas party
[06:30] <Dr_willis> easier to jsut boot to windows and show her how to drag/drop/click with nero. :)
[06:30] <PhinnFort> Dr_willis: there is a KDE program to do that
[06:31] <PhinnFort> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=46558
[06:31] <PhinnFort> very well written
[06:31] <scythe128> linux just recently got good dvd rippers too, so I no longer need dvddecrypter, or dvdshrink
[06:31] <Dr_willis> or coruse THEN she realized that a pc hooked up to the tv could do it also.
[06:31] <scythe128> neither ran well in xine
[06:31] <scythe128> lol
[06:31] <Dr_willis> the PSP reencoder front ends are getting udeable under linxu now also...
[06:33] <lupul> does anyone know a tool to monitor cpu, memory, temperature....
[06:33] <lupul> all in one
[06:33] <Dr_willis> oodles of them.
[06:34] <scythe128> I only use my windows for media files that wont play on my linux
[06:34] <Dr_willis> superkaramba applets have them, gkrellm,  lets see.. what else.
[06:34] <Dr_willis> several kickerapplets can do some of those features
[06:34] <lupul> k
[06:35] <bXi> almost done with setting up my basic ubuntu
[06:35] <scythe128> there a gmail notifier for linux yet?
[06:37] <matteo> good evening
[06:37] <matteo> i'm a problem
[06:37] <scythe128> well, admitting it is part of the solution.... whats bothering you matteo?
[06:38] <matteo> i' want yahoo for kubuntu x86_64
[06:39] <scythe128> what yahoo, the instant messenger?  look  at gaim or kopete.  They both can talk to yahoo's chat networks
[06:39] <ryoma> can some one help me out
[06:39] <ryoma> ??
[06:40] <Dr_willis> scythe128,  ive seen one for kde and one for gnome.
[06:40] <Dr_willis> !info gcheckmail
[06:40] <ubotu> Package gcheckmail does not exist in any distro I know
[06:40] <matteo> i must have just an account?
[06:40] <Dr_willis> !info kcheckmail
[06:40] <ubotu> Package kcheckmail does not exist in any distro I know
[06:40] <Dr_willis> !find gmail
[06:40] <ubotu> Found: mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail, checkgmail, enigmail-locale-ca, enigmail-locale-cs, enigmail-locale-de (and 23 others)
[06:40] <ryoma> where i can find some codec video
[06:40] <ryoma> ??
[06:40] <Dr_willis> !w32codecs
[06:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:40] <Dr_willis> ryanakca,  i normally download/install the w32codecs pack from the several repositories. or from the mplayer homepage
[06:42] <scythe128> Dr_willis found a couple in synaptic that I am going to try
[06:42] <scythe128> thankx
[06:43] <bXi> are there any decent xgl guides for edgy 64bit ?
[06:43] <Dr_willis> i like the gnome gmail checker applet i found the other day better then the kde one.
[06:44] <scythe128> there is a gmailnotify in synaptic
[06:44] <Dr_willis> http://asher256-repository.tuxfamily.org/index.php?page=packages&lang=en
[06:44] <scythe128> looks just like the osx or windows one... keep it uniform
[06:44] <Dr_willis> has a few packatges not common yet.
[06:44] <olegfink> !info checkgmail
[06:44] <ubotu> checkgmail: Alternative Gmail Notifier for Linux via Atom feeds. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.10-1 (edgy), package size 46 kB, installed size 204 kB
[06:44] <smaggard> hello everyone :D
[06:45] <Dr_willis> !info zim
[06:45] <ubotu> zim: a desktop wiki. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.15-1 (edgy), package size 197 kB, installed size 756 kB
[06:46] <Dr_willis> ever have the joy of explaining to a windows user what a 'package-manager' actually does under linux. :)
[06:46] <Dr_willis> they can be sooooooooo baffled that such a thing even exists.
[06:47] <Dr_willis> 'you mean you dont go to all these web sites and download the updates?'
[06:47] <bARTIST> hello
[06:47] <bARTIST> i am under ubuntu
[06:47] <bARTIST> and i wish to try kubuntu
[06:47] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:47] <bARTIST> thanx Dr-willis
[06:48] <Dr_willis> will install the core of kubuntu. check out the Kubuntu homepage and its FAQ while it installs.
[06:48] <bARTIST> but i heard there were other options
[06:48] <bARTIST> core, desktop, and full
[06:48] <Chrissie> Hi bARTIST. I switched from ubuntu to Kubuntu and I've never regretting it? Go for it
[06:48] <Dr_willis> I normally install ubuntu, then kubuntu-desktop
[06:48] <bARTIST> ok i ll to it willis
[06:48] <Dr_willis> cant recall ever trhying core/full
[06:48] <malik__> hello guyz
[06:49] <matteo> sorry for my ignorance, but for use kopete; i must have an account from yahoo yet? or I can create it for them?
[06:49] <bARTIST> and i heard there is a way to make that KDE programs do not appear in ubuntu
[06:49] <scythe128> your almost as bad as me Doc.. I install ubuntu and then kde... I have never actually used kubuntu so to speak
[06:49] <malik__> one question...............do we use ubuntu repos for kubuntu or kubuntu has its own repos?
[06:49] <matteo> i am not english XD
[06:49] <bARTIST> and gnome programs do not appear in kubuntu
[06:49] <Dr_willis> malik__,  they all use the same repos.
[06:49] <bARTIST> is that good?
[06:49] <Dr_willis> bARTIST,  never heard of a way to do that..
[06:50] <Dr_willis> both de's scan for the various .desktop files i though and fill in the menus as needed.
[06:50] <scythe128> matteo.. I am not sure... you might be able create an account
[06:50] <Dr_willis> I mixx and match gnome+kde apps as   i feel like it.
[06:50] <bARTIST> Dr_Willis, if i install kubuntu-desktop, can i remove it?
[06:50] <scythe128> yes
[06:50] <Chrissie> when you update the repos, it updaes tehm all, g and k. you can even run g.apps under k. I think
[06:50] <malik__> thanx mate
[06:50] <Dr_willis> bARTIST,   not in a very 'clean' way :)
[06:50] <matteo> ok thanks
[06:52] <bARTIST> i have 1 reason to install kubuntu: amarok
[06:52] <bARTIST> what other reasons are they?
[06:52] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install amarok
[06:52] <scythe128> bartist... you can install amarok in kde
[06:52] <scythe128> i mean gnome
[06:52] <Dr_willis> i never listen to music.. so whatever floats your boat.
[06:52] <Chrissie> you can run amarok in gnome, i think
[06:52] <bARTIST> amarok under gnome is not that efficient
[06:52] <Dr_willis> the more  i use gnome.. the more i realize how much better KDE is.
[06:53] <bARTIST> under gnome, it always mention something about art missing
[06:53] <smaggard> haha ive only used gnome a few times like in k12ltsp and i HATE it
[06:53] <smaggard> its like wheres the trash can?
[06:53] <scythe128> k12ltsp?
[06:53] <scythe128> hehe, if I could get aero for linux, I would :)
[06:53] <smaggard> lol
[06:54] <smaggard> i have 768MB ram and i still cant run aero
[06:54] <malik__> okie guyz my amarok keeps tellin me that taglib is broken may be................... n needs to be reinstalled.......it wudnt add some 21 gig of my mp3 files
[06:55] <malik__> any idea on that?
[06:55] <scythe128> smaggard... uhhh... aero is the osx wm... it runs fine with 512, but apple wont release it or the real darwin for us (the cheap people)
[06:55] <smaggard> i thought you were talking about aero glass, the vista 3d
[06:55] <Dr_willis> ya would THINK billion-doller companies could come up with better names...
[06:56] <scythe128> no... I like the win2k desktop best for windows
[06:56] <smaggard> yeah
[06:56] <smaggard> did u notice how after windows xp came out, everything else started becoming XP versions?
[06:57] <bARTIST> thanks
[06:57] <Dr_willis> better then the "everything2000' version names...
[06:57] <Dr_willis> or the 'whatevberReloaded' names.. :)
[06:57] <scythe128> hehe, athlon xp 1800 (it only runns 1533)
[06:57] <Dr_willis> now we got iWhatever names.
[06:57] <scythe128> hehehe
[06:58] <smaggard> yeah and the movie i robot
[06:58] <smaggard> lol
[06:58] <scythe128> iDont really iCare though, its good fodder for commedians
[06:58] <smaggard> im surprised there isnt a windows xp movie about how great it is
[06:58] <Dr_willis> ugh.. you realize that name was the name of a book... that came out Years and years ago...
[06:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:59] <Dr_willis> "I Robot"
[06:59] <Dr_willis> not iRobot :)
[06:59] <smaggard> there was iMesh, iTunes, iPod,
[06:59] <Dr_willis> iVibe
[06:59] <smaggard> lol yeah that was a joke
[06:59] <scythe128> iRobot  =  makers of roomba
[06:59] <Dr_willis> then apple was all mad and threating to sue everyone that even used icons/themes that looked like theirs.
[06:59] <smaggard> iMac
[06:59] <sc0tt> iLol
[06:59] <smaggard> lol
[07:00] <smaggard> what does the i stand for?
[07:00] <scythe128> idont know
[07:00] <Dr_willis> I just love for Years how APple touted how "well researched/organized/designed OS-9 Was'  ... then they toss it all out the window.
[07:00] <smaggard> lol
[07:00] <cloakable> Dr_willis: Well, at least they admit mistakes :)
[07:00] <smaggard> the newest will always be best, no matter what it really is
[07:01] <Dr_willis> You would think after years and years of computer/programing/design/theory/research - we would have the 'perfect'  Open File... Dialog box..
[07:01] <cloakable> Windows would drag the thing on forever.
[07:01] <Chrissie> hey, got the announcement last night that a beta Ulteo would be released tonight or tomorrow
[07:01] <scythe128> like windows me, there was actually some fanfare over windows mistake edition
[07:01] <Dr_willis> 'drag and drop is a cool feature... no its not... yes  it is...  ' heh heh
[07:01] <Chrissie> anyone knows a little what's behind itN
[07:03] <smaggard> december 5th or 6th
[07:03] <smaggard> hmm
[07:03] <smaggard> thats close.. lol
[07:04] <Chrissie> exactly. should be tonight or tmrw. but doesn't say much in the matter of teazer.  Anyone know anything?
[07:05] <smaggard> ummm
[07:05] <smaggard> i dont
[07:05] <smaggard> but i wouldnt get my hopes up
[07:05] <fildo> *goneski
[07:05] <Dr_willis> OLPC GUI 'preview'    :)    http://applications.linux.com/applications/06/11/30/206212.shtml?tid=26
[07:06] <Dr_willis> so when can we expect OPLCubuntu
[07:06] <Chrissie> why not? seems "revolutionary", running within a browser and all
[07:08] <scythe128> I didnt like it
[07:08] <scythe128> but thats just me
[07:08] <scythe128> it was cool to see, but ... I dunno.... different.. and different is bad ;)
[07:08] <Chrissie> scythe: what didn't you like?
[07:09] <scythe128> welll... gimme a few and I will tell you.  I will have to actually watch it again
[07:10] <scythe128> dont like haveing to google for everything... there is no address bar
[07:11] <Dr_willis> what are we talking about? i missed somthing....... :)
[07:11] <scythe128> there is a video out there that actually shows this ui in action... i just didnt like it
[07:11] <Chrissie> got the url for the video?
[07:12] <scythe128> looking for it now
[07:12] <firestar162> hi
[07:12] <smaggard> hi
[07:13] <scythe128> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2255304751539750822&q=olpc+interface           there you go chrissie
[07:13] <Chrissie> as for the address bar, I'd assume that it's one "obviousity" that would be fixed first thing
[07:13] <firestar162> kann mir jemand sagen warum mein internet (dsl 2000) so langsam ist? habe kubuntu drauf
[07:13] <Chrissie> thanks, brb
[07:13] <LjL> !de | firestar162
[07:13] <ubotu> firestar162: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:13] <firestar162> alles klar, danke
[07:14] <smaggard> i had never heard about the one laptop per child thing before..
[07:14] <scythe128> I love the idea... I dont like the intergface.  It had to be lightweight though... so it is probably the best it will get.
[07:15] <LjL> i'd like Opie/Qtopia rather for a lightweight interface
[07:15] <LjL> it used to have (half-broken) Debian packages once in the Debian repos, not anymore :-\
[07:16] <scythe128> ljl, this machine has a 512Mb flash drive.... that is it.  It has to be very streamlined
[07:16] <smaggard> yah look at the hardware....
[07:16] <easytiger> hi... kdevelop isn't working.. i open it and it starts then just hangs?
[07:16] <LjL> scythe128, Opie is the interface (well, one of them) that is used on PDAs
[07:17] <scythe128> well, that is streamlined then :)  didnt know that, will probably forget it :(
[07:17] <LjL> http://opie.handhelds.org/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=c7x0 - and yes, it can work on i386
[07:17] <Vladdy> ./usr/share/kernel-package/ruleset/misc/version_vars.mk:123: *** Error. The version number # # configuration written to .config # 2.6.19-rc6-Andromeda is not all lowercase. Since the version ends up in the package name of the kernel image package, this is a Debian policy violation, and the packaging system shall refuse to package the image. .  Gestopt.
[07:17] <Vladdy> lol
[07:18] <LjL> i'd have used that rather than reinvent the wheel, but that's just myself
[07:18] <[Amigo] > Hi, pll! I need simpled QT-based firewall, just simple rule...
[07:18] <sb9> howdie, looking for a command to check the state of a daemon
[07:18] <LjL> !firewall | [Amigo] 
[07:18] <ubotu> [Amigo] : Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:18] <Vladdy> that's too bad!
[07:18] <Chrissie> back from the OLPC video
[07:18] <sb9> ie whether its up and running
[07:19] <Dr_willis> heh
[07:19] <sb9> or do i have to grep it from ps  ?
[07:19] <Dr_willis> i skimmed the olpc video. :)
[07:19] <scythe128> last week there was someone having trouble getting jack to work so they could use their ati tv wonder pro video card, anyone remember who that was?
[07:19] <[Amigo] > LjL: Simple QT-based (graphics interface)  :) iptables - so hard to learn :0
[07:19] <Dr_willis> Interesting use of the frame/border thing.
[07:19] <Chrissie> I like it. remember the C of OLPC stands for "child", so that explains why there's no address bar
[07:19] <scythe128> Doc, definately different isnt
[07:19] <LjL> [Amigo] : missed the Guarddog part?
[07:19] <dls> hello all
[07:20] <Dr_willis> Ive been using MatchBox On and off for a window manager.. insome ways Matchbox would be a better choice i think
[07:20] <Vladdy> !kernel
[07:20] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:20] <scythe128> chrissie, your right..... but that is why I dont like it
[07:20] <[Amigo] > LjL: More simply, like Firestarter on GTK :)
[07:20] <ubuntu_> this looks strangeeee
[07:20] <Dr_willis> You are not really the target audience scythe128  :)
[07:20] <scythe128> they will most likely have a better chance of hitting something relavent without haveing to spell it right though
[07:20] <dls> soory i haw a kubuntu bot ei kend not login as root
[07:20] <Chrissie> I agree. It's different. And I agree that different is not what children need for a first introducton to usage of a pc
[07:21] <scythe128> Dr.. they were trying to sell these for 300 each so they could have 2 children sponsored per one bought here
[07:21] <Dr_willis> I seem to   end up typing www.whatever.com into google search entry by mistake all the time. heh.
[07:21] <Vladdy> there we go, it's building now, with capitals
[07:21] <Chrissie> not that they should all be introduced to Msoft look alike, but it should at least lok familiar to what the adults work with and that they see everyday
[07:22] <[Amigo] > LjL: Ok. I be using Guarddog. Great tnx. Bye!!!
[07:22] <Dr_willis> scythe128,  yes.. but thats not targeting  us with its design.  thats a 'fundraiser' gimmic. for those of us that just LOVE new toys.
[07:22] <Chrissie> I guess is the price is really really really low, then different is good. Like less than $100 for a box
[07:22] <scythe128> it should follow generally agreed upon gui conventions (close by cliking a button in the corner (left for ms, right for mac).  stuff like that
[07:22] <scythe128> hehe
[07:22] <Dr_willis> for $300 i think i would go for a Nokia770 for my toys .
[07:23] <scythe128> lol
[07:23] <Chrissie> lol. i thought these were discontinued? been looking for one for ages
[07:23] <Dr_willis> agreed upon... left for MS right for mac... heh heh.. yea.. real agreed upon!
[07:23] <Dr_willis> BeOS had the title bars that resized.. so the thing was always moving. :)
[07:24] <scythe128> doc, its still in a corner.... not by clicling  the edge and the clicking something else
[07:24] <soulrider> hi
[07:24] <soulrider> does anyone know of a program i can use to plot 3d functions ?
[07:24] <scythe128> be os is dead, well the support is
[07:24] <Dr_willis> years and years of 'research' into GUIS and we still get wacky experiments.
[07:24] <Chrissie> isn't the challenge what we're all looking for? sleepless night etc?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> I always enabled the WIn95 theme in BeOS. :)
[07:24] <Chrissie> lol
[07:25] <Dr_willis> now thats an GUI!
[07:25] <scythe128> I just think that this system should be somewhat adaptable in order allow the child to progress beyond what they learned on that pc and allow them to learn the concepts that make most os's similar
[07:25] <scythe128> I had geos!!  a friend had it on his 486
[07:26] <ubuntu> hellllo
[07:26] <scythe128> geos looks very much like win 3.x
[07:26] <Dr_willis> I think you are refering to the later generation of GEOS. :) not the original.
[07:26] <No1Viking> Yo!
[07:27] <Chrissie> I fully agree. Just look at the number of linux distro that are recommended for win swistchers: they're all windows blue
[07:27] <Dr_willis> Geos reinvented itself like 2 or 5 times.
[07:27] <scythe128> possibly.  I dont know which version it was... I just popped the 5.25 disk in that giant paperweight and went to town :)
[07:27] <milaks> Hi. In windows to request new IP address one would do the following: `ipconfig /flushdns`, `ipconfig /release` and `ipconfig /renew`. How can request new IP address from my ISP in similiar way in Kubuntu?
[07:27] <No1Viking> Are there any known problems restarting Kubuntu Edgy?
[07:27] <Dr_willis> No1Viking,  none that i have heard of.
[07:27] <scythe128> also had dos 1 for the c64 :)  that was painful
[07:27] <No1Viking> Ok
[07:27] <Dr_willis> I got a CPM cartridge for my C64
[07:27] <scythe128> I havent No1, it works better than dapper did on this laptop
[07:28] <Chrissie> ok got to go, floor to scrub, children to feed, marital duties to perform
[07:28] <Chrissie> bye all
[07:28] <scythe128> cpm?  you had geos on cartridge??  bet that was faster than my floppies
[07:28] <stephond> how come after installing 6.10
[07:28] <Dr_willis> the CPM cart - had a Z80 cpu in it - that the CPM on the c64 used.
[07:29] <Dr_willis> I dont recall Geos on a cart. but it was the only os for C64 that used that Ram expansion unit - that i can rember.
[07:29] <scythe128> so it was basically a co processor
[07:29] <Dr_willis> it was the processor.. :)    it some how took over.
[07:29] <stephond> Then updating as adpet notifier said I couldn't log back in
[07:29] <Dr_willis> C128 had a Z80 and the 6502 (?) cpu both in them .
[07:30] <scythe128> ahh... that would explain why my word processor would boot directly into the wp instead of basic
[07:30] <sweetcandy> tengo un troyano ayuda!!
[07:31] <sweetcandy> en linux un troyano como
[07:31] <sweetcandy> ???
[07:31] <scythe128> i had geoworks, not geos... mybad
[07:31] <Dr_willis> !es
[07:31] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:31] <scythe128> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEOS_(8-bit_operating_system) this the one you had doc?
[07:32] <milaks> Anyone?
[07:33] <scythe128> my bad... I only had geos... just got a look at geoworks... definately not that
[07:33] <Dr_willis> scythe128,  yep thats the one.. i still got disks for it.. shrinkwrapped..
[07:33] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:33] <scythe128> wow, looks a little like win 3.1 to me... maybe win 2.0 (havent used anything earlier)
[07:34] <alynx> excuse me , but how do i burn a mpg file so i can watch it on my dvd player? it takes divx though.  Only have cd burner on this laptop and i use k3b
[07:34] <Dr_willis> except it came out befor win3.1 i think
[07:34] <scythe128> yeah... it did
[07:35] <Dr_willis> back when 640200 was high-resolution
[07:35] <scythe128> hehe
[07:37] <scythe128> doc, you arent going to believe this...    http://www.breadbox.com/ensemble/geosdetails.asp?id=45&category=Purchase%20Ensemble  !!
[07:37] <lexi_> hi @all. i read there is an initialramfs inside the ubuntu-kernel . why is that and could we use a copy of it as initrd in /boot ?
[07:39] <[Amigo] > May be, any body know, how to read write on flash card N72 (usb cable connection)???
[07:40] <scythe128> amigo, my computer sees all of my usb drives as removable file systems and auto mounts them
[07:40] <afm\colossus> even those without UMS caps? :D
[07:42] <[Amigo] > scythe128: When I connect phone to computer create /dev/ttyACM0 and no other device and no other mounted file systems :(
[07:43] <scythe128> flash cards I have experience with, phones... no clue... sorry man
[07:44] <trappist> [Amigo] : I use bitpim to get stuff on/off my phone
[07:45] <fn0rdp0rtland> !asterrisk
[07:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asterrisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:45] <trappist> !asterisk
[07:45] <fn0rdp0rtland> !asterisk
[07:45] <ubotu> asterisk: Open Source Private Branch Exchange (PBX). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.12.1.dfsg-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 137 kB, installed size 400 kB
[07:45] <[Amigo] > bitpim?? It's a application?
[07:45] <trappist> [Amigo] : yes
[07:45] <[Amigo] > trappist: bitpim?? It's a application?
[07:45] <[Amigo] > trappist: OK
[07:46] <fn0rdp0rtland> how do iswitch to the irc about asterisk
[07:46] <[Amigo] > trappist: And I can use flash card on my phone Nokia N72?
[07:46] <trappist> fn0rdp0rtland: /join #asterisk
[07:46] <trappist> [Amigo] : I don't know, but it does support a lot of phones
[07:46] <fn0rdp0rtland> trappist: thanx
[07:47] <[Amigo] > trappist: What you have model of mobile phone?
[07:48] <trappist> [Amigo] : it's an LG phone
[07:48] <[Amigo] > trappist: With flash card?
[07:48] <trappist> [Amigo] : SD card
[07:49] <trappist> [Amigo] : but if bitpim supports your phone, it will almost certainly be able to access the flash card, through the phone
[07:49] <bXi> \o/ succes
[07:50] <[Amigo] > trappist: TNX. Be search this application and probe to work with my phone
[07:50] <bXi> kubuntu edgy 64bit with ATI x1600xt pci-e with working xgl firefox2 with flash9 and java
[07:50] <wildchild> why when I click on a song in amarok it shows like it is playing for a sec and than everything stops... I need to terminate amarok
[07:51] <trappist> bXi: hah, way to go :)
[07:51] <trappist> bXi: what window decorator are you using with xgl?
[07:52] <omegagryphon> Hello
[07:52] <Surghi> hi
[07:53] <trappist> wildchild: you might try switching engines, xine <-> gstreamer
[07:53] <omegagryphon> I am having problems installing Kubuntu... I am a newb with Linux as I always been using windows. -v-
[07:53] <Surghi> Are there any Public Domain (maybe GPL)  songs / sounds of at least 60 seconds lenght which could be used got a GPL Game that I am just programming?
[07:53] <bXi> trappist: emerald
[07:53] <bXi> or beryl rather
[07:54] <trappist> bXi: and that works ok?  I haven't tried beryl yet.
[07:54] <bXi> biggest issue i had was getting a working repos
[07:54] <omegagryphon> Trying to boot from a CD from what I downloaded and burned with Nero, this is a new computer and wouldn't be a dual boot.
[07:55] <ehird> where would i store permanent aliases
[07:55] <bXi> and not seeing any weird issues with beryl so far
[07:55] <trappist> ehird: I make a /etc/profile.d/alias.sh and source it from /etc/profile
[07:56] <ehird> trappist: i seem to remember there being a ~/.bash-aliases or something
[07:56] <ehird> but its not there
[07:56] <trappist> ehird: never heard of that one
[07:56] <wildchild> trappist: I only have xine engine
[07:57] <trappist> wildchild: oh, I heard somebody say that before, that it's stuck with xine for some reason... I'm not sure what else to try
[07:58] <omegagryphon> Now I am getting an error, Buffer I/o error on device hda, logical block, before and after is some numbers but always different, anyone know what this means?
[07:58] <wildchild> trappist: so I must grab some apples and start eating them while I am waiting :P
[07:59] <trappist> omegagryphon: it sounds like a bad burn.  you might try burning at a lower speed.
[08:01] <omegagryphon> I reburned it, this time as a regular data disk instead of a bootable one, maybe because I reused the same disk? I knew I probably should of bought more then one CD damn my cheapness ^v^;;
[08:01] <trappist> one cd, yeah, that's pretty cheap :)
[08:02] <trappist> you can get a 100 pack for like $10 if you try hard enough
[08:02] <omegagryphon> What I only had two bucks, and it was RW. All my other 500 CD's are CD-r -v-
[08:04] <omegagryphon> Hmm only will let me burn at one speed, the speed changer is blanked out in Nero
[08:04] <trappist> omegagryphon: well if it's rw, you can try again
[08:06] <sweetcandy> how much swapiness do you have?
[08:07] <lenscape> blah. Kubuntu is much less stable than SuSE was. I've never seen KDE Crash Handler so many times
[08:11] <wildchild> that's freaking odd: [19:51]  <wildchild> why when I click on a song in amarok it shows like it is playing for a sec and than everything stops... I need to terminate amarok
[08:12] <wildchild> now... it's working and I didn't do anything but wait
[08:18] <BluesKaj> hey gents , I'm in stalling mythtv and ai followed this instruction:  cd~'):   ,and I realized that I had made mistake as soon i hit the enter key and I now have just a > as a prompt in the terminal. How do I get back to my /home prompt so i don't screw up the install sequence  ?
[08:19] <themistocles> hello
[08:19] <Admiral_Chicago> BluesKaj: try ctrl + C
[08:19] <themistocles> hello
[08:19] <trappist> BluesKaj: if that doesn't work, try quit, or ctrl-d, or exit...
[08:19] <omegagryphon> Yay, I got it to work. Blank the whole CD completely and reburned it.
[08:19] <BluesKaj> thx Admiral_Chicago ...it worked
[08:19] <Admiral_Chicago> np
[08:20] <themistocles> can anyone offer some help with crossover
[08:20] <trappist> themistocles: maybe, if you ask a question
[08:21] <themistocles> sure
[08:21] <themistocles> trappist
[08:21] <fn0rdp0rtland> !twinkle
[08:21] <ubotu> twinkle: Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) SIP Phone. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.dfsg-1 (edgy), package size 1115 kB, installed size 2988 kB
[08:21] <themistocles> i am trying to install Office XP
[08:21] <fn0rdp0rtland> anyone ever use twinkle?
[08:22] <bXi> fn0rdp0rtland: yeah
[08:22] <themistocles> and i keep getting an error that office can not continure with the installation
[08:22] <fn0rdp0rtland> is it like skype but 1free or am i missinformed?
[08:22] <fn0rdp0rtland> 100%
[08:22] <fn0rdp0rtland> 100% free*
[08:23] <bXi> well if you have sip/voip account you can use it to call
[08:23] <bXi> and it depends on the sip/voip provider on if its free
[08:24] <fn0rdp0rtland> crap and those cost money im gussing damn it sucks being poor.
[08:24] <themistocles> the thing is that the error comes from office not crossover
[08:24] <bXi> fn0rdp0rtland: there are providers which provide free calls in certain countries
[08:25] <fn0rdp0rtland> im just trying to set up a way to make free phone calls in the us
[08:25] <bXi> i'd do some research into free voip/sip providers then
[08:25] <bXi> thats your best shot
[08:26] <themistocles> what about voipbuster?
[08:26] <bXi> voipbuster isnt free for calling to landlines
[08:27] <trappist> themistocles: it should work out of the box - is there any more info in the error message? when do you get the error?
[08:27] <fn0rdp0rtland> what about cells?
[08:27] <themistocles> i get the error right after asked where to install office xp
[08:27] <themistocles> i have created a new bottle after winxp template
[08:28] <trappist> themistocles: use the default win98 bottle
[08:28] <nvman90> Hey does anyone know if KDE has another config file for setting the res of monitors?
[08:28] <lenscape> nvman90: yes
[08:28] <nvman90> Xorg is configured right
[08:28] <themistocles> i have tried that too
[08:29] <nvman90> but I think KDE is doing something
[08:29] <nvman90> where is it
[08:29] <nvman90> ?
[08:29] <lenscape> nvman90: I forget where it is but I had to delete it a while ago cos it was wrong
[08:29] <milaks> Hello.Besides one primary ADSL account, which I use with 'pppoe tools' I have antoher one that I often use. Is it posible to make two ADSL accounts with `pppoe` and connect with something like `pppoe-start acc1` or `pppoe-start acc2`?
[08:29] <lenscape> it's burried in .kde somewhere
[08:29] <themistocles> trappist your text appears in red
[08:29] <lenscape> nvman90: burried in ~/.kde
[08:29] <nvman90> ok ya thats waht I figured I was looking around in there but couldn't find anything related to monitors and resolution
[08:29] <lenscape> nvman90: I can't tell where it is because I deleted it
[08:30] <nvman90> Lol alright
[08:30] <nvman90> I'll keep looking then
[08:30] <themistocles> in that case it says sometihng about incorrct version of patch and quits
[08:30] <trappist> themistocles: sounds like you may have a broken cxoffice install
[08:31] <themistocles> it is a demo version, wanted to try it out first
[08:31] <themistocles> do you suggest installing crossover again?
[08:31] <nuxnog> can't install gnuchess with adept, progress bar freezes at 36%, no install, same for gcc 4.0, conflicts indicated
[08:32] <trappist> themistocles: it's worth a shot - I've never had it fail on me, but then I've never used a demo version either
[08:32] <gsuveg> how van i save tabs on exit from konq? and if i start konq i would open those tabs ?
[08:32] <trappist> nuxnog: try with apt-get.  you'll probably get better error messages.
[08:32] <nvman90> alright I thnk I found it, so if I just delete this file will it just revert to Xorg for the res?
[08:33] <lenscape> rename it first :-)
[08:33] <themistocles> trappist how come your text appears in red? irc noob here
[08:33] <nuxnog> matter of fact, adept doesnt install anything, not apache, not gnuchess, not gcc
[08:33] <nvman90> good idea
[08:33] <nvman90> LOl
[08:33] <trappist> themistocles: probably because your irc client is hilighting it because I'm talking directly to you (by using your nick)
[08:33] <nvman90> alright I'm gonna go try this
[08:33] <nvman90> thanks
[08:33] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone know why mythtv keeps giving a "database error" on a front-end computer
[08:33] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm not trying to connect it to any servers / other computers
[08:34] <conn> hi, how do I  change the gnome icon theme from kde/kubuntu? I just need to know the name of the program in the repository
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> i just want it sit there and play my shows
[08:34] <themistocles> i have opened a dialog box but i get your answers here
[08:36] <themistocles> trappist: did that worked?
[08:37] <nuxnog> using sudo apt-get install gnuchess, i get a lotta errors involving vmware-player, subprocess /user/bin/dpkg returned error code (1)
[08:38] <trappist> themistocles: did what work
[08:39] <themistocles> trappist:i meant is it highlighted?
[08:40] <nuxnog> i wonder if i will have fewer installation woes if i switch to ubuntu, instead of kubuntu?
[08:40] <trappist> themistocles: when you use my nick, yes
[08:40] <zippersmith> hi everyone
[08:41] <themistocles> trappist: i have the installation file install-crossover-standard-prerelease-6.0.0beta3a.sh
[08:41] <themistocles> trappist:can we do this together
[08:41] <zippersmith> I'm having trouble with my cups printer uri over usb.
[08:42] <zippersmith> I can't find the right uri
[08:42] <zippersmith> so the printer is unfound
[08:44] <zippersmith> if you have a usb printer running will you check your printer properties
[08:44] <zippersmith> and let me know if the uri is usb://usblp0?
[08:51] <themistocles> trappist: i am on the crossover channel with a person
[08:52] <cathal> you know when u update softare with adept for instance, is their anyay of seeing what is the difference with the new update, like release notes or something for that version?
[08:54] <fn0rdp0rtland_> i have a drive thats read only i want to delete all teh crap on it how do i do this?
[08:54] <fn0rdp0rtland_> its from another install of kubuntu
[08:55] <fn0rdp0rtland_> on a diffrent partition
[08:57] <The_Machine> where do i find the "show desktop" button in KDE?  :)
[08:57] <fn0rdp0rtland_> i have a drive on a seperate partition (hda1) and i need to delete some data form it but it says i dont have the privs
[08:58] <fn0rdp0rtland_> never mind i got it
[08:58] <fn0rdp0rtland_> '
[09:00] <fdoving> The_Machine: rightclick on the panel -> add applet to panel -> Find 'Show Desktop' in the list. hit the 'add to panel' button.
[09:01] <SlimG> krita problem: when resizing to a smaller resolution i get transparent edges along bottom and right side, howto avoid this?
[09:02] <cpk1> change the canvas size?
[09:05] <The_Machine> fdoving: thanks :)
[09:05] <The_Machine> rock on!
[09:05] <SlimG> cpk1: where do i change the canvas size?
[09:05] <trappist> ok after like 6 years I'm finally fed up with Eterm.  anyone know of another solution for a transparent, borderless terminal in kde?
[09:06] <fdoving> trappist: konsole.
[09:06] <trappist> fdoving: I've never gotten either transparency or borderlessness to work right in konsole
[09:06] <jose> hi all, i am getting this error when trying to run some programms, someone could help? gizmo: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2: undefined symbol: FT_Library_SetLcdFilter
[09:07] <jose> i just found one page talking about this but was in italian :D
[09:08] <cpk1> sorry its called "change image size"
[09:09] <ruben> Hello people, I have a question. Not much info in the net. I run Kubuntu 6.10 and since last update monitor setting screen tells me that this module can not be loaded. Also with disk management and users. Any idea where I should look for?
[09:09] <trappist> fdoving: so, do you know something I don't know about konsole?
[09:12] <SlimG> Krita problem, when resizing to a smaller resolution i get transparent edges along bottom and right side, howto avoid this?
[09:12] <fdoving> you can configure everything in kwin. open konsole -> rightclick on the title line -> advanced -> special application settings -> go to the 'preferences' tab. you want 'no border' and some fancy settings in the opacity %. boxes.
[09:13] <fdoving> trappist: that was for you ^^
[09:13] <trappist> fdoving: got it :)
[09:14] <trappist> fdoving: only, I've tried that before and got the same results I'm getting now, which is no results at all
[09:14] <Admiral_Chicago> ruben: i get that as well
[09:15] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure how to fix it
[09:15] <vado> hi
[09:15] <Admiral_Chicago>  hello
[09:15] <fdoving> trappist: did you change the drop-down list to 'apply initially' ?
[09:15] <trappist> fdoving: it remembers the settings after closing the app and looking at them again, but kwin doesn't seem to be respecting them
[09:15] <fdoving> trappist: that has to be done for each setting you change/activate.
[09:15] <trappist> fdoving: yes, tied that and 'force'
[09:16] <trappist> s/tied/tried/
[09:16] <ruben> Admiral_Chicago. Few weeks ago it work like a charm, after an automatical update, I  even didint realize about this, then stop working
[09:16] <fdoving> trappist: works here.
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> ruben: same here
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure when it happened but it did
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm looking on LP for a bug report now
[09:16] <trappist> fdoving: do you know what the box to the right of the drop down is for?
[09:17] <limdul> Hello!
[09:17] <limdul> I have a question =)
[09:17] <ruben> Admiral_Chicago. I'll keep looking for
[09:17] <limdul> I've installed GNOME on Kubuntu
[09:17] <limdul> And now it became my default session
[09:17] <fdoving> trappist: i think that's activating?
[09:18] <limdul> Unlike the Ubuntu login manager, the Kubuntu login manager doesn't let me set what I'd like to have as my default session type
[09:18] <Admiral_Chicago> limdul: in gdm, look for log in as kde
[09:18] <fdoving> trappist: I have to tick that to enable no borders.
[09:18] <trappist> fdoving: ah, that did it :)  now if I can get rid of the other decorations/toolbars/scrollbars/etc...
[09:18] <limdul> Hmmm - Admiral_Chicago - I'm using kdm as my window manager
[09:18] <fdoving> trappist: that's konsole settings.
[09:19] <Admiral_Chicago> limdul: kdm is the log in manager...
[09:19] <Admiral_Chicago> limdul: are you on KDE now
[09:19] <trappist> fdoving: yeah that's what I'm poking at now
[09:19] <limdul> Yep
[09:19] <limdul> I am
[09:19] <fdoving> trappist: i tend to hide everything and let the tab-bar appear when i have more than one tab per window.
[09:19] <Admiral_Chicago> okay well when you log in, make sure to see how you log in. gnome, kde, etc
[09:20] <Admiral_Chicago> i think it just goes to your previous log in though
[09:20] <fdoving> trappist: remember to save as default profile when you're done tweaking.
[09:20] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't think theri is a default log in
[09:20] <limdul> Admiral_Chicago: Nah, it doesn't go to my previous log in
[09:20] <BluesKaj> Why would adept recommend the removal of the K Desktop Environment official modules ? Isn't that the KDE Desktop ?
[09:20] <limdul> When I log in through KDE
[09:20] <PhinnFort> i have kind of a problem
[09:20] <limdul> It logs into KDE
[09:20] <limdul> But when I choose default
[09:20] <limdul> Or doesn't specify an option
[09:20] <PhinnFort> i switched from gentoo, and left my /boot, so now ubuntu wants to boot my nice shiny .19 kernel, but it hasn't got any of the modules?
[09:21] <limdul> It ALWAYS starts GNOME
[09:21] <Admiral_Chicago> limdul: ah i see
[09:21] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry i have to run
[09:21] <limdul> It must be in some configuration file =)
[09:21] <limdul> OK
[09:21] <limdul> I'll ask someone else
[09:21] <limdul> So - anyone knows how to set the defualt session type in Kubuntu?
[09:22] <fdoving> limdul: you can configure the default session on a per user basis.
[09:22] <limdul> I see
[09:22] <limdul> User manager?
[09:22] <fdoving> limdul: it uses ~/.xsession iirc.
[09:22] <trappist> fdoving: still isn't quite borderless, though there's no more titlebar
[09:22] <limdul> And globally?
[09:22] <fdoving> limdul: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/kdm/quickstart.html
[09:24] <fdoving> trappist: try 'konsole --noframe'
[09:25] <fn0rdp0rtland_> how do i tell if some randoms persons wifi net im on has broadband?
[09:26] <trappist> fdoving: no luck there, still looking
[09:26] <fdoving> trappist: can you provide a screenshot of the borders?
[09:28] <trappist> fdoving: http://linuxkungfu.org/tmp/shot.png
[09:30] <fdoving> trappist: i think that thin border is set by the kwin window decoration.
[09:31] <trappist> ah, good thinkin, I'll try changing it
[09:34] <trappist> fdoving: still no luck
[09:35] <fdoving> trappist: hmm..
[09:36] <themistocles> trappist:this patch can only be used on windows installer 2.0 or higher
[09:36] <trappist> themistocles: "patch"?
[09:38] <themistocles> trappist:this is the message after installation of internet explorer requested by Office xp installation
[09:38] <trappist> themistocles: sounds like you need to install windows installer 2.0 with cxoffice (but that should have been handled by the office install)
[09:40] <themistocles> trappist: it is office xp pro sp3 and the IE installed by installation is IE 5
[09:41] <limdul> fdoving: OK, I've read now that default sessions can be stored in eg. the .xinitrc files in the user directories...
[09:42] <limdul> But I want to change  the default session globally
[09:42] <BluesKaj> themistocles, no it isn't IE5 is justa browser
[09:43] <limdul> OK - anyone else knows how to change the default session type in kdm? =)
[09:43] <themistocles> bluekaj:so you think i must install installer 2 for windows 98?
[09:43] <limdul> After installing GNOME on Kubuntu the default changed to GNOME - I want the default to be KDE
[09:43] <limdul> Just like before
[09:43] <limdul> Friggin GNOME overwriting settings :-P
[09:43] <fdoving> limdul: ah.. from a terminal session run 'sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager'
[09:44] <fdoving> limdul: select startkde.
[09:44] <limdul> OK
[09:44] <limdul> I'll try that
[09:44] <BluesKaj> yes themistocles
[09:44] <server_> portuguese?
[09:44] <BluesKaj> !pt
[09:44] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:44] <fdoving> !pt | server_
[09:44] <ubotu> server_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:44] <fdoving> .. away tv.
[09:44] <BluesKaj> I'll ask again , Why would adept update want the removal of the K Desktop Environment official modules ? Isn't that the KDE Desktop ?
[09:44] <themistocles> bluekaj:ok downloading that
[09:45] <limdul> fdoving: Wonderful, that did the trick :-D
[09:45] <limdul> Thanks
[09:45] <dragan> no... they are not installed by default
[09:45] <dragan> and instead adept use synaptic BluesKaj
[09:45] <dragan> it is much better tool
[09:46] <server_> Why the url orkut.com don't open with kubuntu...konqueror?
[09:46] <BluesKaj> it's adept's updater that is telling me this
[09:46] <dragan> ignore it :-)
[09:46] <dragan> or even better .. remove it but first install synaptic
[09:47] <dragan> adept is not so .. ahem smart tool
[09:47] <BluesKaj> why would it want to do that anyway ...i don't see the point..all i did was add some mythtv repos to the sources list and this happens
[09:47] <dragan> btw. anyone knows how to pait SE K750i with my pc via BT?
[09:48] <dragan> *pait = pair
[09:48] <dragan> I do bnot know.... BluesKaj
[09:48] <dragan> I had similar issue with nvidia driver and nvidia config tool with adept
[09:49] <dragan> if I install driver.. I cant install config tool
[09:49] <dragan> if I want to install config tool... adept marks driver for removal
[09:52] <limdul> Hmmmm
[09:52] <blackflag> how can I do "find" searching files greater than ex. 100MB?
[09:52] <limdul> And can anybody tell me why I can't upgrade my mediawiki installation? =)
[09:52] <limdul> It says that it depends on mediawiki1.7, but it is not installable 0_o
[09:53] <afm\colossus> find . -size +100M
[09:53] <dragan> !sr
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <afm\colossus> @ blackflag
[09:54] <blackflag> cool, thanks!! :)
[09:54] <limdul> Dumdidum
[09:54] <limdul> Anyone? =)
[09:59] <dragan> ok... noone here knows anything 'bout BT?
[10:00] <dragan> !cs
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <claydoh> BT?
[10:00] <cntb> !generic
[10:00] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -386, -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html
[10:01] <chupa-chups> helloooooooooooooo
[10:02] <chupa-chups> plz i want any one help meeeeeeeeeeee
[10:02] <chupa-chups> i made a stupid thing
[10:02] <server_> chupa-chups:  o que que pega?
[10:03] <eilker> !lvm
[10:03] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:03] <claydoh> chupa-chups: just feel free to ask your question, and someone will help if they are able
[10:04] <chupa-chups> i made encryption for a big folder in my disk then i re installed the win xp and i forgot to decrypt the folder
[10:04] <chupa-chups> now i cant read any of content under win or linux
[10:04] <chupa-chups> what shall i do
[10:04] <claydoh> I don't tknow
[10:05] <chupa-chups> ??????????????????????????
[10:06] <claydoh> unless you have the encryption tools, you probably can't
[10:07] <cloakable> chupa-chups: You still have the encryption key?
[10:07] <chupa-chups> no i dont know it
[10:08] <chupa-chups> i made an ordinary encryption from properties of the folder
[10:08] <chupa-chups> :(
[10:08] <cloakable> In which OS?
[10:09] <cloakable> There's no encrypton option in Konqueror that I can see.
[10:10] <chupa-chups> i was under winxp
[10:10] <afm\colossus> well, wrong channel then, i suppose
[10:10] <cloakable> afm\colossus: Indeed.
[10:10] <chupa-chups> ??
[10:10] <chupa-chups> mmmmmmmm
[10:11] <chupa-chups> any one have solution
[10:11] <cloakable> chupa-chups: We can't support WinXP :P
[10:11] <chupa-chups> mmmmmmmmmmmm
[10:11] <chupa-chups> i c
[10:12] <chupa-chups> but i thought i can find any one can help me
[10:12] <BluesKaj> what is Zope ?
[10:12] <cntb> how to tune alt-shift change   of two languages on  keyboard
[10:12] <claydoh> maybe, but there might be better luck in a Windows related channel
[10:12] <angasule> chupa-chups: if it's a windows issue, go to ##windows ?
[10:13] <cloakable> chupa-chups: Or, #windows
[10:13] <chupa-chups> thank u very much
[10:13] <claydoh> !zope
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zope - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <PhinnFort> Zope is a webserver
[10:13] <PhinnFort> thingy
[10:14] <cloakable> chupa-chups: Though, the encryption on XP might suck as badly as everything else on that OS. Try looking for programs to crack the encryption.
[10:14] <PhinnFort> chupa-chups: you're out of luck if you don't have your hash still, i believe
[10:14] <PhinnFort> !glest
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <cloakable> !winxp
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winxp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <chupa-chups> ok i will try any thing else
[10:16] <BluesKaj> !Zope
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Zope - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: http://www.zope.org/
[10:17] <BluesKaj> PhinnFort, I already looked ")
[10:17] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: so?
[10:17] <PhinnFort> http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=zope+ubuntu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[10:18] <BluesKaj> it's not what i need , ... i need zope 2.8 for mythtv database I guess
[10:18] <PhinnFort> zope for a mythtv database?
[10:18] <PhinnFort> that sounds very wrong
[10:18] <BluesKaj> that's what the terminal says
[10:19] <BluesKaj> it 's arepos for some of the plugins
[10:20] <No1Viking> Question: In settings in KDE there are alot of possibilities to set things in a default mode. How do I change things to factoryu default, like it was when the machine was newly installed?
[10:20] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: can't find anything on mythtv.org about zope...
[10:20] <PhinnFort> No1Viking: very carefully delete settings from under .kde/
[10:21] <PhinnFort> do not delete .kde, though
[10:21] <blackflag> how can I uninstall software without all the depencies with it?
[10:21] <blackflag> dependencies^
[10:22] <PhinnFort> is ubuntugames.com supposed to be in spanish?
[10:22] <BluesKaj> not gonna delete kde ...I'm a noob but not that nooby
[10:23] <BluesKaj> adept update says to remove it ...something very strange
[10:23] <Raztafari> is there anyone that knows how to fix resolution problem with nvidia and ubuntu/kubuntu? I can only get 800x600 res. I've installed the latest nvidia drivers from the site with the installer
[10:23] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: sure it's just not a meta-package
[10:23] <PhinnFort> or wtf it's called under ubuntu/debian
[10:23] <PhinnFort> !resolution
[10:23] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:24] <BluesKaj> perhaps
[10:24] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: if it's just one package named "KDE", that's probably it
[10:24] <megapig> Why can't I change the screen resolution to 1280*800?
[10:24] <PhinnFort> megapig: look up
[10:25] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: if it wants to delete kwin, kicker, konqueror et al, then don't do it;)
[10:25] <cntb> !nvidia
[10:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:25] <BluesKaj> PhinnFort,  "K Desktop Environment official modules"
[10:26] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: sorry, i'm not too familiar with debian/(k)ubuntu, just installed it today
[10:26] <dan__> can anyone tell me why firefox keeps crashing with edgy
[10:26] <PhinnFort> dan__: bad karma
[10:27] <dan__> lol
[10:27] <PhinnFort> have you run over old grandmas with your car lately?
[10:27] <dan__> not for a while no
[10:27] <PhinnFort> then try running it without plugins and stuff
[10:27] <kalmah> dan__: 1.5 or 2? 2 seems to crash on me a lot
[10:27] <dan__> 2
[10:27] <PhinnFort> i think it's "--safe-mode"
[10:27] <dan__> it worked alright untill i upgraded to edgy
[10:28] <cntb> how do I see Device PCI ID of nvidia ?
[10:28] <PhinnFort> dan__: tried running it in a konsole?
[10:28] <PhinnFort> cntb: lspci
[10:28] <PhinnFort> sudo lscpi
[10:28] <cntb> lspci says nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400
[10:28] <dan__> still crashes
[10:28] <dan__> it opens up a page appears then it just closes
[10:29] <PhinnFort> what does it output to the konsole?
[10:29] <dan__> nothing
[10:29] <dan__> it just closes
[10:29] <dan__> its really weird
[10:29] <PhinnFort> dan__: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_mode
[10:29] <PhinnFort> try it
[10:30] <megapig> I can't change it to Widescreen Resolution
[10:30] <PhinnFort> to sum that up: run "firefox -safe-mode"
[10:30] <dan__> oh wait i'll show you hold on
[10:30] <PhinnFort> megapig: !resolution
[10:30] <megapig> >.>
[10:30] <PhinnFort> !resolution
[10:30] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:30] <PhinnFort> clicken sie das linken bitte
[10:30] <dan__> ya einen moment bitte
[10:31] <BluesKaj> !de
[10:31] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:31] <PhinnFort> it was a joke...
[10:31] <dan__> ubotu is sure on top of it today
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is sure on top of it today - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <dan__> lol
[10:31] <PhinnFort> lol
[10:32] <BluesKaj> dan said something in german
[10:32] <dan__> well i can run it in safe mode bu then what
[10:32] <The_Machine> so, for some reason there's a bug with vncserver, where it 'forgets' my password all of the time
[10:32] <PhinnFort> in response to this: [22:30]  <PhinnFort> clicken sie das linken bitte
[10:32] <PhinnFort> The_Machine: safety first;)
[10:32] <The_Machine> lol
[10:32] <PhinnFort> dan__: does it still crash?
[10:32] <BluesKaj> mythtv GUI sucks , can't seem to get it to setup right ...no mouse access
[10:33] <dan__> hold on lemme do it
[10:33] <PhinnFort> if it doesn't crash, it's one of your extensions
[10:33] <dan__> ya it crashed
[10:33] <PhinnFort> hrm
[10:34] <PhinnFort> dan__: well, only one thing left: get Opera;)
[10:34] <PhinnFort> or stick to konqi
[10:34] <dan__> i'll run debug
[10:34] <dan__> if i cant figure it out
[10:34] <dan__> maybe i'll resort to the other two options
[10:34] <PhinnFort> ;)
[10:34] <PhinnFort> you won't regret it
[10:35] <ehird> any chance of getting cddbd in the repositories?
[10:36] <scott__> I have not learned how to download a package and install it into linux...can anyone help me?
[10:37] <PhinnFort> scott__: look under "system" on your menu for Adept Manager
[10:37] <scott__> lets say I want to download a package directly from a website?
[10:37] <scott__> how would I do about doing that?
[10:38] <PhinnFort> hold on, trying it meself now;)
[10:38] <PhinnFort> just downloaded the Opera .deb
[10:38] <eilker> konqueror is opening slow, is there a way for making it faster ?
[10:40] <Lynoure> scott__: you download it and then do   sudo dpkg --install pathtothepackagefile
[10:41] <Lynoure> scott__: But please be careful about what you install.
[10:41] <kalmah> Lynoure: What if we install via source?
[10:41] <PhinnFort> Lynoure: isn't there some adept frontend for handlig .deb's?
[10:42] <Lynoure> kalmah: do you a source of packages or from source code?
[10:42] <PhinnFort> eilker: look into http://linuxreviews.org/kde/konqueror/#toc8
[10:42] <Lynoure> PhinnFort: I would not know, I'm not that much a fan of the GUI administration.
[10:42] <lee> hi how can i connect a printer
[10:42] <eilker> PhinnFort: thanx
[10:43] <kalmah> Lynoure: Just the source, anyway to add it to the OFFICAL  list of installs?
[10:43] <PhinnFort> lee: plug it in;)
[10:43] <BluesKaj> lee, system settings /printers
[10:44] <PhinnFort> is it possible to have good old kcontrol back somehow?
[10:44] <Lynoure> kalmah: Source of packages aka repository, sure, add it to /etc/apt/sources.list  but that is not _official_ it's just for that computer
[10:44] <eilker> PhinnFort: hey it is flying now :)
[10:44] <scott__> if I want to download java from their website...how would I then install it into linux?
[10:44] <PhinnFort> eilker: yw;)
[10:45] <claydoh> PhinnFort: kcontrol is still there, you just would need to make a menu entry for it
[10:45] <claydoh> or run it from "Run Command"
[10:45] <PhinnFort> claydoh: i already had one, but kubuntu assimilated it;)
[10:45] <eilker> !mount
[10:45] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[10:45] <PhinnFort> scott__: right click, open with, and type in "dpkg -i" i think
[10:45] <kalmah> Lynoure: Just for an example, say i wanted to install http://test.org/myapp.tar.gz into the port tree, what would i add to my sources.list?
[10:45] <cntb> nvidia-xconfig - The NVIDIA X Configuration Tool >>> vs. (or ) nvidia-settings - Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver ??
[10:46] <claydoh> !java
[10:46] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:46] <Lynoure> kalmah: so, you meant compiling from source code after all.
[10:47] <PhinnFort> tar.gz doesn't necessarily mean source
[10:47] <Lynoure> PhinnFort: no, but good luck compiling anything else
[10:47] <lee> thanks ;
[10:47] <lee> thanks
[10:47] <PhinnFort> ;)
[10:47] <eilker> !udev
[10:47] <ubotu> udev: rule-based device node and kernel event manager. In component main, is important. Version 093-0ubuntu18 (edgy), package size 224 kB, installed size 768 kB
[10:47] <kalmah> I know tar.gz doesn't mean source, that's just an example
[10:47] <musya> what gui is good for webdesingn in linux like dreamweaver in windoews
[10:47] <kalmah> Lynoure: and yeah, compiling from source
[10:48] <PhinnFort> musya: i prefer kate, but there are WYSIWYG editors
[10:48] <PhinnFort> musya: NVU
[10:48] <kalmah> musya: try quantra
[10:48] <PhinnFort> *quanta
[10:48] <eilker> kalmah: quoanta plus
[10:48] <PhinnFort> *quanta plus
[10:48] <eilker> !quanta > kalmah
[10:49] <Lynoure> kalmah: There is no way to get it automatically tracked for updates like .debs, unless of course you make a .deb out of it, put it in an apt repository and add that to sources.list. And that's not worth it for one computer.
[10:49] <eilker> sorry kalmah it was for lynoure :)
[10:49] <kalmah> eilker: np
[10:49] <The_Machine> anyone know how i can easily configure vncserver in KDE?  (Gnome has "Remote Desktop" under system..)
[10:50] <Lynoure> eilker: quanta plus what?
[10:50] <kalmah> Lynoure: Thanks, i was just curious
[10:50] <cntb> nvidia-xconfig - The NVIDIA X Configuration Tool >>> vs. (or ) nvidia-settings - Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver ??
[10:50] <eilker> !quanta > Lynoure
[10:50] <Lynoure> eilker: h?
[10:50] <PhinnFort> Lynoure: http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/
[10:50] <Lynoure> eilker: why are you quantaing me?
[10:50] <Lynoure> PhinnFort: and same question to you too.
[10:51] <PhinnFort> because eilker is confusing me;)
[10:51] <kalmah> I must say, (k)ubuntu kicks some ass as far as a desktop OS goes, watch out windows =p
[10:51] <PhinnFort> musya: http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/
[10:51] <eilker> oh so sorry  :) i am confused )
[10:52] <PhinnFort> it's contagious
[10:52] <PhinnFort> :P
[10:52] <Lynoure> eilker: heh :)
[10:52] <eilker> midnight here :)
[10:52] <PhinnFort> 22:52 here
[10:52] <eilker> 23:53
[10:52] <musya> ok thank you!
[10:53] <PhinnFort> np
[10:53] <Lynoure> eilker: I already started wondering whether there is a version of quanta plus that makes debs for you as soon as new source version is released, and turns them into an apt repository for you =)
[10:53] <cloakable> :P
[10:54] <ubuntu_> hi! i see my irc client is running, but my keyboard has got a wrong layout...
[10:54] <ubuntu_> can i change this so that y and z is not mixed up
[10:55] <The_Machine> anyone know how i can easily configure vncserver in KDE?  (Gnome has "Remote Desktop" under system..)
[10:55] <eilker> Lynoure: now i wonder it too:) i have read an article for it, but forgot it, but there is sth that what makes it
[10:56] <PhinnFort> The_Machine: alt+f2, type kcontrol, enter, search for remote, click on desktop sharing
[10:56] <PhinnFort> :P
[10:58] <dan__> ok so firefox keeps crashing i need help
[10:59] <dan__> can someone help me with firefox2 please
[11:00] <ryanakca> whats the command to add console input?
[11:04] <The_Machine> thanks PhinnFort!
[11:05] <cntb> nvidia-xconfig - The NVIDIA X Configuration Tool >>> vs. (or ) nvidia-settings - Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver ??
[11:05] <bLaZeD> if i "share" a printer in windows....will i easily be able to print to it from linux?
[11:06] <bLaZeD> or is there anything special i have to install?
[11:06] <eilker> !cups
[11:06] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:07] <cntb> bLaZeD,  in control panel of XP install printing for UNIX
[11:07] <cntb> nvidia-xconfig - The NVIDIA X Configuration Tool >>> vs. (or ) nvidia-settings - Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver ??
[11:09] <bLaZeD> cntb, sweet then i should be able to?
[11:10] <kerwonz> hii
[11:11] <kerwonz> i have  a problem, my soundcard doesn't work... :/
[11:11] <TheGateKeeper> !sound
[11:11] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[11:17] <jbruckman> Admiral_Chicago:  "options snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=3"
[11:17] <jbruckman>  sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[11:22] <ehird> anybody know a way to test cddb servers in linux?
[11:22] <ehird> i.e. a client that supports showing the cd data and submitting with a configurable server
[11:23] <trappist> ehird: only software I ever used cddb with is grip
[11:23] <cntb> nvidia-xconfig - The NVIDIA X Configuration Tool >>> vs. (or ) nvidia-settings - Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver ?? thegatekeeper ?
[11:23] <ehird> trappist: g.g.g..g....gnome? :)
[11:23] <ehird> *:0
[11:24] <trappist> ehird: I think it's g.g.g.g..graphical :)
[11:24] <ehird> trappist: o-o-o-o-oh
[11:24] <ehird> trappist: s-s-s-s-o it's q-q-q-q-qt based?
[11:24] <trappist> no
[11:24] <themistocles> blueskaj
[11:24] <cox377> does anyone here know of winavi? it's a windowz app for converting all sorts of video media files?
[11:24] <ehird> *gags*
[11:25] <cntb> bbl installing nvidia driver
[11:25] <trappist> ehird: my mistake, it is a gnome app... but who cares, really
[11:25] <cntb> bbl installing nvidia driver
[11:26] <trappist> ehird: try abcde for a console app
[11:27] <cloakable> cox377: On Linux we have ffmpeg and transcode.
[11:27] <trappist> ehird: or kaudiocreator for a kde app
[11:27] <ehird> ffmpeg is probably the best swiss army knife ever that's avoided bloat
[11:27] <cox377> cloakable: do they have a front end?
[11:28] <cox377> cloakable: as it's telling me it's already installed
[11:29] <cloakable> cox377: Not really, but it's really simple.
[11:29] <cox377> cloakable: ok, just g0t the help options up..cheers for that
[11:29] <cloakable> ffmpeg -i <video file in> <video file out>
[11:30] <cox377> cloakable: whats better ffmpeg or transcode?
[11:30] <cloakable> cox377: I find ffmpeg simpler, but trancode is much more powerful.
[11:31] <LjL> Jonty has left this server (""I personally believe that Visual Basic did more for programming than Object-Oriented Languages did." --Linus Torvalds"). <--- isn't Visual Basic object oriented anyway? :P
[11:32] <ubuntu> hi, i want to install kubuntu and have 3 partitions hda1 7gb, hda2 2gb and hda3 66gb. ok,hda2 is linuxswap,but the first and the last, what do they have to be called? /home and /boot?
[11:33] <LjL> ubuntu, err, you want a root ("/") partition too i think =)
[11:33] <LjL> ubuntu: i'd use hda1 as /, and hda3 as /home.
[11:33] <ubuntu> ehm, ..ok
[11:33] <ubuntu> so the first one schould be "/"
[11:34] <ubuntu> ?
[11:34] <cloakable> ubuntu: the way i would do it, is hda1 /, hda2 swap, and hda /home
[11:34] <ubuntu> ah ok, thanks
[11:36] <cox377> cloakable: lol ok, i'm thinking maybe something with a gui
[11:36] <kerwonz> when i connect my audiculares on my computer doesn't works only the internat spekers for the computer, what can i do???
[11:36] <kerwonz> when i connect my headphones on my computer doesn't works only the internat spekers for the computer, what can i do???
[11:37] <scott__> I am trying to install java through kunbuntu...how do I do that?
[11:37] <Admiral_Chicago> !java > scott__
[11:37] <cloakable> cox377: Hmm. There's probably a frontend for transcode somewhere.
[11:37] <cox377> cloakable: ok, i shall take a look, cheers
[11:38] <cloakable> cox377: gtranscode is in the repos. multiverse.
[11:38] <eilker> LjL: i have hda7 as / , and i dont have /home... i mean /home is in hda7 too, is this strange ?
[11:38] <steve___> Did a fresh install of Kubuntu 6.06 last night now Adept wont let me selet new packages to install whats going on
[11:39] <trappist> cloakable: dvdrip
[11:39] <trappist> !dvdrip
[11:39] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.1-0.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 718 kB, installed size 2084 kB
[11:39] <ehird> steve___: hd full?
[11:41] <LjL> eilker: no. many people have everything on a single partition, but many people also prefer having /home on a separate partition, and since he's already got two suitable partitions, it might be a good idea for him
[11:42] <cloakable> trappist: dvdrip is DVDs only, right?
[11:42] <trappist> cloakable: yeah, what were you looking for?
[11:42] <eilker> for now , can i carry my /home to new partition ? or you did it during your first install ?
[11:42] <eilker> LjL:for now , can i carry my /home to new partition ? or you did it during your first install ?
[11:42] <Vladdy> ripping cd's is even easier ;p
[11:42] <cloakable> trappist: A general frontend. I'll use my mythtv box to rip DVDs when I get that running.
[11:43] <LjL> eilker: i didn't do it during install. however doing it "after the fact" is harder
[11:43] <eilker> LjL: in fact, i am gonna mount hda5 to /mnt/extra
[11:43] <steve___> ehird: it cant be full as it was formated before i did a fresh install, sorry if this is a stupid question but just how do u go about checking how full a disk is in kubuntu
[11:43] <LjL> eilker: you'd have to repartition (unless you already have a partition that's good for that), then copy your /home there, then modify /etc/fstab to point to the new home, taking care to never break the system in the process
[11:43] <LjL> if you're not too comfortable with that idea, perhaps it's best to leave it like it is
[11:44] <eilker> LjL: in fact, trying to learnt "mount" and "linux file structure"
[11:45] <Vladdy> evil thing
[11:45] <LjL> eilker: filesystem structure is trivial... everything is seen as a single "disk" called /, and other (real) disks are just mounted on directories that reside somewhere on /
[11:45] <Vladdy> i swear, why can't i just put capitals in packages, without having to modify 2 different scripts :S
[11:47] <LjL> eilker: "mounted" meaning "let's just pretend that the contents of this CD, or whatever, are just a directory inside one big disk"
[11:47] <Vladdy> another script to change it seems..
[11:47] <cox377> cloakable: gtranscode being the front end?
[11:47] <eilker> LjL:but only one partition or hard disk can be mounted directly to / , right ?
[11:47] <LjL> eilker: right, that's called the "root" partition
[11:48] <LjL> eilker: well, actually, you can probably mount multiple partitions on / using unionfs or something, but forget about that right now
[11:48] <cloakable> cox377: Yeah. Doesn't seem to be a good frontend, but eh.
[11:48] <cloakable> Exposes none of the power :(
[11:48] <eilker> LjL:this made me confusing, now understanding :) i always mixed  / and /root , until now
[11:49] <LjL> eilker: basically / serves two functions: it represents the actual contents of an actual partition (the root partition), *and* it serves as a "skeleton" to mount other drives/partitions on
[11:49] <kerwonz> somebody can help me please??
[11:49] <eilker> LjL:/root is not / :)
[11:50] <LjL> eilker: they're unrelated. /root is the home directory of the user "root". (you may ask, why isn't it in /home/root, like for all other users? well, because /home can often be a separate partition, but the "root" user may need to access the system without that partition mounted, for recovery, emergencies, etc... so root's home directory has to reside on the main partition)
[11:50] <Vladdy> it's ok to use capitals in package names, why do scripts think otherwise? O_O
[11:50] <cox377> cloakable: lol i dont actually know what u can convert with it haha, it doesnt seem to have options like what format
[11:50] <LjL> Vladdy: must say i've never seen a package with capitals...
[11:50] <cox377> : )
[11:51] <eilker> LjL: thank you so much, now started to understand...
[11:51] <trappist> Vladdy: yeah I've never seen a package with capitals in debian or ubuntu
[11:51] <Vladdy> because it requires changing in 3 different places
[11:51] <trappist> I remember em from mandrake and redhat, though
[11:51] <easytiger> how do i change the keyboard to a uk keyboard? dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg messed it up
[11:51] <Vladdy> . /usr/lib/dpkg/controllib.pl (search for illegal, and change a-Z to a-zA-Z)
[11:51] <Vladdy> and /usr/bin/dpkg-gencontrol (same)
[11:51] <Vladdy> also for kernel since it checks there too :S
[11:52] <eilker> easytiger: u can do it from "system settings" too
[11:52] <Vladdy> now I have a linux-image-2.6.19-rc6-andromeda_2.6.19-rc6-Andromeda-10.00.Custom_i386.deb
[11:52] <Vladdy> WITH capital..
[11:52] <easytiger> where is that? eilker?
[11:53] <kdefreak> why doesn't my console's text habe any color? I have it setup so that it does in .bash(something)... I'm on vt[1-6] ... colored terminal text only works in konsole/xterm
[11:53] <eilker> easytiger:it is in (start-bar)/k-menu
[11:53] <eilker> easytiger:than click on regional settings
[11:54] <Admiral_Chicago> @now chicago
[11:54] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Chicago: December 05 2006, 16:54:26
[11:55] <janfbr> hi
[11:55] <Vladdy> now i should patch initramfs to work with encrypted loop :-/
[11:55] <BluesKaj> @now Toronto
[11:55] <janfbr> I'm trying to get Kaffeine to run at a specific time, but using "at" doesn't seem to work...
[11:55] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Toronto: December 05 2006, 17:56:00
[11:56] <BluesKaj> hehe
[11:56] <janfbr> anyone have any idea on how I can do this?
[11:57] <Admiral_Chicago> janfbr: check out cron
[11:57] <easytiger> janfbr: cron is the way
[11:57] <Dragen> Ok so here is my question, are the Keyboard shortcuts (like ALT-F2) part of KDE's Window Manager  Kwin?  cuz i circumvented KDE's window manager by using the environment variable KDEWM=/usr/bin/beryl-manager (so beryl starts automatically) but now my ALT-F2 shortcut is broken.  Funny part is, the other keyboard shortcuts WORK though.  I even checked my Keyboard shortcuts, and it's mapped correctly to the RUN command.. so what gives?
[11:58] <janfbr> but I want to only run it once
[11:59] <easytiger> janfbr: then delete the cron job when your done
[11:59] <easytiger> or have the script remove it
[12:00] <fdoving> janfbr: you can use the 'kalarm' utility from kdepim. kmenu -> utilities -> kalarm if it's installed. if not the package name is 'kalarm'.
[12:01] <scott__> I can not find java 5 on kubuntu?
[12:01] <Admiral_Chicago> Dragen: ~/.kde/Autostart is where that should have gone
[12:01] <Admiral_Chicago> no idea about the other thingc
[12:01] <kerwonz> aahmmmm
[12:02] <janfbr> fdoving: ok, thanks. I will try that
[12:02] <kerwonz> what can i do if kubuntu doesnt work my headphones when i connect it .... but on windows works...
[12:02] <dan__> does any one know what this meens
[12:02] <BluesKaj> well,  the mythtv installation went fine but the setup is "arcane" at best ... lack of mouse access is curiously absent ...the GUI in the setup is system awful
[12:02] <dan__> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[12:02] <dan__>   Major opcode:  144
[12:02] <dan__>   Minor opcode:  3
[12:02] <dan__>   Resource id:  0x0
[12:02] <dan__> Failed to open device
[12:03] <Dragen> Admiral_Chicago: I used to put beryl-manager in the autostart, and i'm glad I don't anymore.. because it would "randomly" work on startup, and sometimes not startup.  after reviewing the '/usr/bin/startkde' script, this is more streamlined and works flawlessly
[12:03] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr
[12:03] <Admiral_Chicago> Dragen: ah it's always worked for me
[12:03] <claydoh> scott__: look for the package sun-java5-jre
[12:03] <claydoh> sun-java5-plugin
[12:03] <claydoh> in adept
[12:03] <scott__> I looked in adept...but did no see it?
[12:04] <Dragen> Admiral_Chicago: Yea it's weird for some people.  it's nice to know Kwin never ever starts.. I go straight in to my Beryl Window manager, rather than starting up Kwin, killing it with Beryl and so forth.  I also noticed Beryl is more stable doing it this way too
[12:04] <claydoh> you will need to enable multiverse
[12:04] <BluesKaj> anyone using mythtv ? ...the ppl over at the #mythtv room aren't responding
[12:04] <scott__> I will look...
[12:04] <dan__> any help with this X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[12:04] <dan__> please
[12:04] <Admiral_Chicago> beryl is fickle
[12:05] <claydoh> scott__: i grab a link for you
[12:05] <mango12> Hello
[12:05] <scott__> ok...thanks
[12:05] <claydoh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:05] <mango12> ive a little problem, i cant install any package with apt-get install
[12:06] <a8s0lut0> hey all i am new to ubuntu / linux altogther, but i get to the install screen of either ubuntu OR Kubuntu and itjust hangs, anyone know how to resolve that?
[12:06] <mango12> it found 0 packages... whatever i search
[12:06] <mango12> the installation is new
[12:06] <BluesKaj> !acidrip
[12:07] <ubotu> acidrip: ripping and encoding DVD tool using mplayer and mencoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.14-0.2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 54 kB, installed size 288 kB
[12:07] <claydoh> scott__: and once thats done, :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:07] <claydoh> for multimedia bits
[12:07] <poningru> mango12: sudo apt-get update
[12:07] <Admiral_Chicago> @now chicago
[12:07] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Chicago: December 05 2006, 17:07:45
[12:07] <poningru> mango12: then do apt-cache search packagename
[12:07] <mango12> i done.. but the same error
[12:07] <Admiral_Chicago> okay i have a minute or two
[12:08] <mango12> Cant find Package gcc oO
[12:08] <cntb> how to check nvidia 3d install ? like dxdiag in ms windows  ?
[12:09] <mango12> noone else has an idea?
[12:10] <claydoh> mango12: install the package build-essential
[12:10] <claydoh> it will install gcc and needed tools to get you started
[12:11] <mango12> dont find the package ^^
[12:12] <claydoh> cntb: the command 'glxinfo' I think
[12:13] <mango12> it found no packages
[12:13] <scott__> is there a good dvd player in the multiverse?
[12:13] <Otis> hi all, will kde 3.5.5 work on Ubuntu 6.10 ?
[12:13] <wizard> 6.10 ships with 3.5.5