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| cr3 | how can I determine what d-i identifier corresponds to what prompt in the installer, like netcfg/choose_interface? it's usually obvious, but I'm just wondering how to understand the mapping | 03:14 |
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| cr3 | if I want to preseed a netinstall, would it make sense to simply add the url of the preseed.txt in the pxelinux.cfg/default boot menu? | 04:29 |
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| cr3 | just to make sure, I need to build my own boot image to preseed a netinstall, right? | 06:22 |
| cjwatson | no, just boot it with preseed/url=blah | 06:23 |
| cjwatson | should fit somewhere in pxelinux.cfg | 06:23 |
| thom | cr3: no, just update pxelinux.cfg/default | 06:23 |
| cjwatson | 02:14 < cr3> how can I determine what d-i identifier corresponds to what prompt in the installer, like netcfg/choose_interface? it's usually obvious, but I'm just wondering how to understand the mapping | 06:23 |
| cjwatson | cr3: run with DEBCONF_DEBUG=5 and the installer will log what it's asking | 06:24 |
| cjwatson | like INPUT critical netcfg/choose_interface | 06:24 |
| cjwatson | or whatever | 06:24 |
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| arnaud | hi | 06:48 |
| arnaud | i'm looking for a dapper installer (netboot) with a more recent kernel | 06:48 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: so the installer syslog output returned "INPUT critical languagechooser/language-name-fb", so I added to my pressed file "d-i languagechooser/language-name-fb string English". however, that doesn't seem to take and I still get a prompt for the language | 06:52 |
| cr3 | I tried changing "string" for "select", and I also tried removing "-fb" from language-name, still doesn't quite work | 06:58 |
| cr3 | so, I tried using the example-preseed.txt and I still get all the prompts. syslog seems to show that the preseed file is being retrieve though: Dec 5 18:00:19 debconf: <-- 0 http://midir.certification.canonical.com/edgy/i386/preseed.txt | 07:13 |
| cr3 | even if I specify languagechooser/language-name=English in the boot paramters, it still prompts for it :( | 07:21 |
| cjwatson | no, localechooser is weird, don't do that | 07:25 |
| cjwatson | see the installation-guide | 07:25 |
| cjwatson | you want debian-installer/locale=en_CA.UTF-8 (or whatever) | 07:25 |
| cjwatson | arnaud: no such exists, I'm afraid | 07:26 |
| cjwatson | unless you build it yourself | 07:26 |
| cjwatson | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify/CustomKernel is the closest documentation available but it isn't correct for Ubuntu; we don't have the separate linux-kernel-di-* step; instead our kernel packages build udebs directly | 07:27 |
| cjwatson | cr3: are you sure you get all the prompts, and not just the first few? | 07:27 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: yes, sorry for the confusion | 07:36 |
| cjwatson | can I see the preseed file? | 07:36 |
| cjwatson | also your boot options | 07:36 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: your suggestion worked to answer the language prompt worked, now working on console-setup/ask_detect or somesudh | 07:37 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: sure, give me a minute to prepare the urls | 07:37 |
| cjwatson | console-setup/ask_detect should be straightforward | 07:37 |
| cjwatson | you know that everything that comes before the installer retrieves the preseed file has to be given on the kernel command line, right? | 07:38 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: I downloaded the syslog file from the machine after the network detection and it seemed that the preseed file was being retrieved before language selection. | 07:40 |
| cjwatson | are you using kickstart? | 07:40 |
| cjwatson | the preseed file is only retrieved before language selection if you're using kickstart, absolutely not otherwise | 07:40 |
| cjwatson | I wrote the code to do that in kickstart, and it was bloody hard, so :) | 07:40 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: that's just the impression I got from the syslog file, I might be misunderstanding the output so I'm uploading that file as well | 07:41 |
| cjwatson | cr3: this should all be explained in the appendix on preseeding in the installation-guide | 07:41 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: http://people.ubuntu.com/~cr3/netinstall | 07:43 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: I missed that part of the installation-guide but I'm reading it carefully now: B.2. Using preseeding | 07:44 |
| cjwatson | Dec 5 18:20:44 frontend: --> SET preseed/url http://midir.certification.canonical.com/edgy/i386/preseed.txt | 07:44 |
| cjwatson | Dec 5 18:20:44 frontend: <-- 0 value set | 07:44 |
| cjwatson | Dec 5 18:20:44 frontend: --> METAGET preseed/url type | 07:44 |
| cjwatson | Dec 5 18:20:44 frontend: <-- 0 string | 07:44 |
| cjwatson | Dec 5 18:20:44 frontend: --> FSET preseed/url seen true | 07:44 |
| cjwatson | Dec 5 18:20:44 frontend: <-- 0 true | 07:44 |
| cjwatson | you're looking at those lines, right? | 07:44 |
| cr3 | Dec 5 18:20:45 debconf: --> GET preseed/url | 07:44 |
| cjwatson | that's actually the preseeding infrastructure copying stuff from the kernel command line into the debconf database - it doesn't actually fetch that URL until rather later | 07:45 |
| cjwatson | cr3: oh, I see your confusion. That's the main menu confirming that it should be including network-preseed in its menu. | 07:45 |
| cjwatson | look for "Menu item 'network-preseed' selected" - that's where it actually fetches the preseed file | 07:46 |
| cr3 | aha: Dec 5 18:22:04 preseed: successfully loaded preseed file from http://midir.certification.canonical.com/edgy/i386/preseed.txt | 07:46 |
| cjwatson | rigt | 07:47 |
| cjwatson | right | 07:47 |
| cr3 | ok, that makes sense now, thanks for holding my hand there :) | 07:47 |
| cjwatson | so drop console-tools/archs and kbd-chooser/method; those are obsolete in edgy | 07:47 |
| cjwatson | drop debian-installer/locale from the preseed file, as it's only useful on the boot prompt | 07:48 |
| cjwatson | er, kernel command line | 07:48 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: gotcha, and I'll add console-setup/ask_detect to the kernel command line | 07:48 |
| cjwatson | and add console-setup/ask_detect=false console-setup/layoutcode=ca or something like that | 07:48 |
| cjwatson | maybe console-setup/variantcode=fr (for French Canadian) | 07:49 |
| cjwatson | I should have documented console-setup/ask_detect in installation-guide, though. I've fixed that in my local copy. | 07:50 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: that's new in edgy though, right? | 07:52 |
| cjwatson | yes | 07:52 |
| cjwatson | what you had before would be fine in dapper, if you moved it to the kernel command line | 07:52 |
| cr3 | I intend to test it later | 07:57 |
| mark | wth happened to vim in edgy | 08:12 |
| mark | it's so extremely painful | 08:12 |
| mark | the cursor keys not working etc | 08:12 |
| mark | I don't recall dapper doing that | 08:12 |
| thom | mark: apt-get install vim ; i rather suspect vim-tiny sets compat mode | 08:14 |
| mark | ok | 08:14 |
| mark | I'll have to pull that in in the default install then :) | 08:14 |
| cjwatson | right | 08:15 |
| cjwatson | need to fiddle with our configuration changes a bit - some of them massively predate vim-tiny and I think they're unnecessary now | 08:15 |
| thom | yeah, $work-standard deps on vim for that very reason | 08:15 |
| cjwatson | which would probably make vim a little more usable out of the box in Ubuntu, on top of using vim rather than vim-tiny | 08:15 |
| arnaud | cjwatson, it seems a bit complicated but anyway i think i'll have to do this | 08:16 |
| cjwatson | arnaud: yes, it is complicated. what's the actual problem? | 08:16 |
| cjwatson | arnaud: you might consider using edgy instead; it's probably a lot easier if you need a new kernel | 08:16 |
| arnaud | yes but i have to install dapper for lts :) | 08:17 |
| arnaud | is it possible to download and install dapper from an edgy cd or netboot? | 08:17 |
| arnaud | ie when i choose the mirror | 08:17 |
| arnaud | i think i have seen this in debian | 08:17 |
| cr3 | arnaud: interesting question, that'd be nice! | 08:20 |
| thom | mirror/suite | 08:20 |
| thom | should do you, iirc | 08:20 |
| cr3 | I get a red error message saying "No root file system is defined, please correct this from the partition menu." when adding "d-i partman-auto/init_automatically_partition select Erase entire disk" to my preseed file | 08:21 |
| arnaud | let's try. | 08:22 |
| cr3 | I have updated my syslog file: http://people.ubuntu.com/~cr3/netinstall/syslog | 08:33 |
| cr3 | the same error occurs for "d-i partman-auto/init_automatically_partition select Use the largest continuous free space" | 08:42 |
| cr3 | the problem with using "partman-auto/init_automatically_partition" with something like "Erase entire disk: SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda)..." is that the first disk might not be given the SCSI ID 1, it might be 5 for example. | 08:48 |
| cr3 | hm, still getting "No root file system is defined" using several combinations including expert_recipe | 09:13 |
| cr3 | syslog says something about "Adding swap on /dev/sda5" but nothing about / | 09:14 |
| cr3 | interesting, I see this in syslog: SUBST partman/choose_partition CHOICES Guided partitioning, Help on partitioning, , SCSI5 (0\,0\,0) (sda) - 80.0 GB ATA ST380811AS, #1 primary 78.5 GB B K ext3 /media/sda1, #5 logical 1.5 GB F swap swap, , Undo changes to partitions, Finish partitioning and write changes to disk | 09:19 |
| cr3 | so, that basically tells me there's a primary partition defined for /media/sda1 but no mountpoint defined | 09:20 |
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| cr3 | sorry for having to leave like that, has there been any action while I was gone :) | 10:17 |
| cr3 | the reason why I was getting a "No root partition" error is that the expert_recipe doesn't seem to define the mountpoint properly, I'm seeing "/media/sda1" and "/media/sda2" in the partition disks step | 10:31 |
| mpt | cr3, no action while you were gone | 10:33 |
| cr3 | mpt: darn, action is good :) | 10:34 |
| cr3 | aha! I found a bug related to what I'm trying to do: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/partman-auto/+bug/40186 | 10:52 |
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