[12:31] <jbailey> sleep is supposed to be one second...
[12:31] <jbailey> You're thinking usleep.
[12:31] <Bluhd> aha
[12:32] <Bluhd> strangely enough, sleep under different OS's takes milliseconds
[12:32] <Bluhd> I had no idea there was another sleep method
[12:33] <jbailey> It really shouldn't.  I think POSIX.1-2001 says seconds..
[12:33] <Bluhd> hmm
[12:33] <jbailey> apt-get install susv3 for reference. =)
[12:33] <Bluhd> what is the susv3 package?
[12:34] <jbailey> Posix reference.
[12:34] <Bluhd> ok
[12:34] <jbailey> Single Unix Specification version 3
[12:34] <Bluhd> ah
[01:09] <dimach> Can I recompile driver/usb/serial only? I need support for keyspan HW.
[01:20] <BenC> dimach: is that just a module?
[01:24] <dimach> It is part of the kernel. .config can be set to CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_KEYSPAN=m . This means it is a loadable module, right? Can I build it as a module?
[01:24] <dimach> I actually need this guy CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_KEYSPAN_USA19QI
[01:27] <BenC> dimach: Odd, I should enable all those
[01:28] <dimach> You mean I have to build whole kernel to enable support for this?
[01:32] <dimach> I'll be back
[01:33] <BenC> dimach: No, just those modules
[01:33] <BenC> make SUBDIRS=drivers/usb/serial
[01:33] <BenC> err
[01:33] <BenC> make SUBDIRS=drivers/usb/serial modules
[01:53] <dimach> BenC, thanks! I'll try
[02:08] <zul> hey
[02:10] <ajmitch> hi zul 
[03:01] <BenC> whew...ubuntu-2.6.git is buildable again
[03:02] <zul> cool
[03:07] <zul> is it bootable?
[03:08] <BenC> so far so good on all my machines
[03:08] <zul> cool
[03:08] <BenC> speaking of which, need to reboot
[10:00] <blufox> how can i contribute to the ubuntu kernel as a developer? 
[10:07] <dade`> blufox: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide
[10:07] <blufox> dade`, thanks ... i am going through it :)
[01:33] <zul> BenC, ping did it work?
[02:14] <BenC> $ debian/rules printchanges | wc -l
[02:14] <BenC> 1057
[02:14] <BenC> maybe I should disable the upstream changes for the first 2.6.20 :)
[02:53] <zul> hey
[03:10] <kylem> BenC, wow, that's a big changelog :)
[03:14] <zul> :q!
[03:15] <zul> mmm...peanut butter
[03:39] <zul> ummm...yeah https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaProductionKernel
[03:39] <kjetilk_> In https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/63418 it was said that a fix might make it to an edgy update
[03:40] <kjetilk_> so I wondered if there are news about that?
[03:57] <BenC> kylem: but wont that just make the lockup happen without notification?
[03:57] <BenC> kylem: I show 8 changes from you in my latest pull from your k.o tree...that correct?
[03:58] <BenC> HEAD SHA: 80b8e66e4b7ed12b8918c4440e37fd0bc898bd15
[03:58] <BenC> that's edgy, btw
[03:58] <kylem> hmm.
[03:58] <kylem> 985f5bda111baef06fb69cbf2943d879c4a98227
[03:58] <kylem> that's the top sha1.
[03:59] <kylem> there's 10 commits
[04:01] <mjg59> BenC: You never seem to have committed the patch I sent that adds support for the Apple webcam
[04:01] <BenC> mjg59: It will go into edgy-updates, I didn't have time to add it before release because of kernel freeze
[04:01] <mjg59> BenC: Sorry, to feisty
[04:01] <mjg59> Or am I just missing it in the log?
[04:02] <BenC> mjg59: nope, it's missing...it wasn't in the mactel patches, is it separate?
[04:02] <mjg59> Yeah
[04:02] <BenC> ok, I'll find it
[04:03] <mjg59> Should really try to push that one upstream
[04:03] <BenC> kylem: Well, I pulled from yours on k.o and got no more updates, so hopefully it's all good :)
[04:03] <mjg59> I added the code for the firmware loading
[04:03] <kylem> BenC, what's the top commit?
[04:03] <kylem> the Subject line
[04:04] <BenC> [UBUNTU:netfilter]  Fix thinko in CVE-2006-4572 fix
[04:04] <BenC> that's your top commit
[04:04] <kylem> that's the one.
[04:04] <BenC> ok
[04:04] <kylem> weird.
[04:05] <mjg59> BenC: Oh, I like what you've done with the ubuntu directory
[04:05] <mjg59> BenC: That's for external drivers?
[04:05] <BenC> mj59: Yep...I no touchy touchy the stock code, except in rare cases
[04:05] <mjg59> Nifty
[04:06] <BenC> which only affects the -386 kernel, so probably not important
[04:07] <mjg59> apic basically works nowadays
[04:08] <kjetilk_> BTW, I had this backport wish the other day: https://bugs.launchpad.net/products/edgy-backports/+bug/73977
[04:09] <BenC> yeah, I'm going to back out the patch I have been carrying for that
[04:09] <kjetilk_> where I was referred to the kernel maintainers
[04:09] <kjetilk_> I could have sworn I just heard sound from the box, but I'm not sure :-)
[04:10] <BenC> kjetilk_: Don't think backporting alsa for edgy will ever happen
[04:10] <BenC> kjetilk_: we're little more than 4 months away from feisty release, people can wait :)
[04:10] <BenC> too much work just to save a couple months of waiting
[04:10] <kjetilk_> hehe, right :-)
[04:11] <kylem> kjetilk_, support for that is in edgy-updates.
[04:11] <kylem> it's already been backported.
[04:11] <kjetilk_> kylem: oh, cool
[04:13] <kjetilk_> hmmm, so I need to have both that backport and the ipw3945 fix...
[04:16] <kjetilk_> uhm, I couldn't find kernel packages on http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy-backports/allpackages
[04:16] <kjetilk_> isn't that where I was supposed to go...?
[04:47] <BenC> zul: ping
[04:47] <zul> BenC: pong
[04:47] <zul> whats up
[04:48] <BenC> zul: Have you uploaded breezy yet? If not, you can do so whenever you're ready
[04:48] <zul> BenC: will do it tonight when i get home
[04:48] <BenC> zul: cool, thanks
[04:54] <BenC> Sony PS3 (PPC_PS3) [N/y/?]  (NEW)
[04:54] <mjg59> Haha
[04:55] <kylem> yesplease
[04:55] <kylem> ;-)
[04:55] <mjg59> Does it run a standard userland?
[04:55] <mjg59> If so, yeah
[04:55] <BenC> it should run standard userland
[04:56] <BenC> I need to get a PS3 so I can get an ISO for it to run Ubuntu
[04:56] <Mithrandir> BenC: sure, that's the only reason. :-P
[04:57] <BenC> yes, purely technical reasons ;)
[04:57] <zul> riiiight....
[04:59] <BenC> Xbox 360 (X86_XBOX_360) (Exprimental) [M/n/?]  (OLD)
[04:59] <zul> no...out of principal ;)
[04:59] <Mithrandir> it's spelt "experimental"
[04:59] <BenC> it's microsoft, what do you expect :P
[05:00] <BenC> the paper clip guy told me I spelt it right
[05:00] <BenC> not to mention, 360 is PPC too
[05:00] <thom> an X86_XBOX_360
[05:00] <thom> interesting :P
[05:01] <Mithrandir> thom: not to mention the 360 being a module..
[05:01] <BenC> that's the part I was hoping people would notice :)
[05:04] <_MMA_> BenC: joejaxx is starting to look at making his Fluxbuntu project work on a PS3 if your interested maybe I should have him talk to you? I was gonna pitch in some cash to help buy the PS3.
[05:05] <BenC> buying one is no biggie, if I could just find one
[05:06] <BenC> and I don't mean a $2000 one from ebay :)
[05:07] <_MMA_> true.
[05:07] <Mithrandir> they're going to be closer to the .9kUSD mark or so, aren't they?
[05:08] <_MMA_> Im gettin a Wii for the kids and am waiting till the fix the resolution issues on the PS3 before I get one.
[05:08] <_MMA_> Mithrandir: Last I saw one went for 10k (US) On ebay.
[05:09] <_MMA_> sad.
[05:09] <BenC> Mithrandir: like $600 USD retail price, but demand is too high right now
[05:09] <kylem> bloody TSO.
[05:09] <_MMA_> Yea. I dont feel like gettin shot commin out of Best Buy.
[05:10] <zul> damn you americans are crazy..
[05:11] <_MMA_> BenC: I posted to -devel about the -lowlatency kernel. Hopefully I get some help with the spec.
[05:16] <zul> wheee..must kill someone
[07:08] <zul> is the git trees on kernel.org up to date?
[07:15] <tiagoboldt> I'm running in a Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 2.00GHz(centrino). What kernel version should I use (386, 686, generic)?
[07:15] <dade`> generic
[07:15] <thom> tiagoboldt: user questions in #ubuntu please
[07:16] <tiagoboldt> ohh, sorry:) Though of it as a kernel specific question, sorry:)
[08:00] <Keybuk> BenC: ping
[08:25] <kylem> zul, where is your git tree that you keep talking about in bugs hiding.
[08:25] <zul> kylem: i sent the patches through the kernel-mailing list
[08:26] <zul> you had the patches in your ubuntu-proposed trees
[08:26] <kylem> no. not all of them.
[08:26] <zul> gimme a sec.
[08:27] <kylem> the ones on laptop.org are not up to date..
[08:28] <zul> http://zulinux.homelinux.net/ubuntu/patches/
[08:29] <zul> you might not want to do that its just tempoary for now
[08:29] <zul> ill have something more permanent shortly
[08:30] <BenC> kylem: There's a tech-board meeting in 30-minutes...if you show up, they may get around to approving your upload-privs
[08:30] <zul> heh..
[08:30] <kylem> BenC, ok.
[08:30] <BenC> kylem: For a carton of smokes, you may persuade me to speak on your behalf :)
[08:31] <kylem> lol. done.
[08:31] <kylem> there. tg3 is my bitch.
[08:34] <infinity> kylem: For another carton of same, you also get my vote.
[08:35] <zul> for some beer you get mine as well
[08:40] <kylem> heh
[10:11] <zul> kylem: i think we are expecting the beer and cigarettes soon or when its most convient..
[10:12] <zul> and yes i have way too much sugar in my system right now
[10:22] <zul> right later..
[11:24] <BenC> this is great...I have two machines that 2.6.20 doesn't boot on
[11:33] <BenC> and unfortunately that includes a P4 and the Xeon box, so it's not like their ignorable
[11:42] <lifeless> doh