[12:31] sleep is supposed to be one second... [12:31] You're thinking usleep. [12:31] aha [12:32] strangely enough, sleep under different OS's takes milliseconds [12:32] I had no idea there was another sleep method [12:33] It really shouldn't. I think POSIX.1-2001 says seconds.. [12:33] hmm [12:33] apt-get install susv3 for reference. =) [12:33] what is the susv3 package? [12:34] Posix reference. [12:34] ok [12:34] Single Unix Specification version 3 [12:34] ah [01:09] Can I recompile driver/usb/serial only? I need support for keyspan HW. === datten_ [n=datten@xdsl-81-173-182-100.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:20] dimach: is that just a module? [01:24] It is part of the kernel. .config can be set to CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_KEYSPAN=m . This means it is a loadable module, right? Can I build it as a module? [01:24] I actually need this guy CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_KEYSPAN_USA19QI [01:27] dimach: Odd, I should enable all those [01:28] You mean I have to build whole kernel to enable support for this? [01:32] I'll be back === datten_ is now known as datten [01:33] dimach: No, just those modules [01:33] make SUBDIRS=drivers/usb/serial [01:33] err [01:33] make SUBDIRS=drivers/usb/serial modules [01:53] BenC, thanks! I'll try === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [n=bob@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:08] hey [02:10] hi zul [03:01] whew...ubuntu-2.6.git is buildable again [03:02] cool [03:07] is it bootable? [03:08] so far so good on all my machines [03:08] cool [03:08] speaking of which, need to reboot === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rikai [n=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dade` [n=dade@nectarine/admin/dade] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === anibal [n=anibal@124.191.207.212] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === human_blip [n=mike@220.157.65.29] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rikai [n=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === doko_ [n=doko@155.56.26.50] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === blufox [n=bluf0x@59.92.158.181] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:00] how can i contribute to the ubuntu kernel as a developer? [10:07] blufox: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide [10:07] dade`, thanks ... i am going through it :) === Keybuk [n=scott@quest.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === marcin_ant [n=marcin@aim178.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@161.53.50.54] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === doko_ [n=doko@155.56.26.50] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === datten_ [n=datten@xdsl-81-173-150-93.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:33] BenC, ping did it work? === datten_ is now known as datten === marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.126] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Can't] === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:14] $ debian/rules printchanges | wc -l [02:14] 1057 [02:14] maybe I should disable the upstream changes for the first 2.6.20 :) === marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.126] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:53] hey === _human_blip_away [n=mike@220.157.65.29] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:10] BenC, wow, that's a big changelog :) === ph8 [i=henri@rigel.orion-hosting.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dade1 [n=dade@host112-226-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dade1 [n=dade@host112-226-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] [03:14] :q! === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:15] mmm...peanut butter === dade` [n=dade@nectarine/admin/dade] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@89-172-30-168.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === kjetilk_ [n=kjetilk@pat-tdc.opera.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:39] ummm...yeah https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaProductionKernel [03:39] In https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/63418 it was said that a fix might make it to an edgy update === kjetilk_ is bitten, [03:40] so I wondered if there are news about that? === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-kernel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Topic for #ubuntu-kernel: Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryKernel | 2.6.19-7.10 uploaded - DIE BEAR, DIE. Use it, but there are still a few missing modules. === Topic (#ubuntu-kernel): set by BenC at Wed Nov 29 02:08:33 2006 === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-kernel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Topic for #ubuntu-kernel: Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryKernel | 2.6.19-7.10 uploaded - DIE BEAR, DIE. Use it, but there are still a few missing modules. === Topic (#ubuntu-kernel): set by BenC at Wed Nov 29 02:08:33 2006 === kylem thinks turning off softlockup detection is a good idea. [03:57] kylem: but wont that just make the lockup happen without notification? [03:57] kylem: I show 8 changes from you in my latest pull from your k.o tree...that correct? [03:58] HEAD SHA: 80b8e66e4b7ed12b8918c4440e37fd0bc898bd15 [03:58] that's edgy, btw [03:58] hmm. [03:58] 985f5bda111baef06fb69cbf2943d879c4a98227 [03:58] that's the top sha1. [03:59] there's 10 commits [04:01] BenC: You never seem to have committed the patch I sent that adds support for the Apple webcam [04:01] mjg59: It will go into edgy-updates, I didn't have time to add it before release because of kernel freeze [04:01] BenC: Sorry, to feisty [04:01] Or am I just missing it in the log? [04:02] mjg59: nope, it's missing...it wasn't in the mactel patches, is it separate? [04:02] Yeah [04:02] ok, I'll find it [04:03] Should really try to push that one upstream [04:03] kylem: Well, I pulled from yours on k.o and got no more updates, so hopefully it's all good :) [04:03] I added the code for the firmware loading [04:03] BenC, what's the top commit? [04:03] the Subject line [04:04] [UBUNTU:netfilter] Fix thinko in CVE-2006-4572 fix [04:04] that's your top commit [04:04] that's the one. [04:04] ok [04:04] weird. [04:05] BenC: Oh, I like what you've done with the ubuntu directory [04:05] BenC: That's for external drivers? [04:05] mj59: Yep...I no touchy touchy the stock code, except in rare cases [04:05] Nifty === BenC just noticed today that up-apic-off-by-default was not enabled in edgy [04:06] which only affects the -386 kernel, so probably not important [04:07] apic basically works nowadays [04:08] BTW, I had this backport wish the other day: https://bugs.launchpad.net/products/edgy-backports/+bug/73977 [04:09] yeah, I'm going to back out the patch I have been carrying for that [04:09] where I was referred to the kernel maintainers [04:09] I could have sworn I just heard sound from the box, but I'm not sure :-) [04:10] kjetilk_: Don't think backporting alsa for edgy will ever happen [04:10] kjetilk_: we're little more than 4 months away from feisty release, people can wait :) [04:10] too much work just to save a couple months of waiting [04:10] hehe, right :-) [04:11] kjetilk_, support for that is in edgy-updates. [04:11] it's already been backported. [04:11] kylem: oh, cool [04:13] hmmm, so I need to have both that backport and the ipw3945 fix... [04:16] uhm, I couldn't find kernel packages on http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy-backports/allpackages === kjetilk_ <-n00b [04:16] isn't that where I was supposed to go...? === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:47] zul: ping [04:47] BenC: pong [04:47] whats up [04:48] zul: Have you uploaded breezy yet? If not, you can do so whenever you're ready [04:48] BenC: will do it tonight when i get home [04:48] zul: cool, thanks [04:54] Sony PS3 (PPC_PS3) [N/y/?] (NEW) [04:54] Haha [04:55] yesplease [04:55] ;-) [04:55] Does it run a standard userland? [04:55] If so, yeah [04:55] it should run standard userland [04:56] I need to get a PS3 so I can get an ISO for it to run Ubuntu [04:56] BenC: sure, that's the only reason. :-P [04:57] yes, purely technical reasons ;) [04:57] riiiight.... [04:59] Xbox 360 (X86_XBOX_360) (Exprimental) [M/n/?] (OLD) [04:59] no...out of principal ;) [04:59] it's spelt "experimental" [04:59] it's microsoft, what do you expect :P [05:00] the paper clip guy told me I spelt it right [05:00] not to mention, 360 is PPC too [05:00] an X86_XBOX_360 [05:00] interesting :P [05:01] thom: not to mention the 360 being a module.. [05:01] that's the part I was hoping people would notice :) [05:04] <_MMA_> BenC: joejaxx is starting to look at making his Fluxbuntu project work on a PS3 if your interested maybe I should have him talk to you? I was gonna pitch in some cash to help buy the PS3. [05:05] buying one is no biggie, if I could just find one [05:06] and I don't mean a $2000 one from ebay :) [05:07] <_MMA_> true. [05:07] they're going to be closer to the .9kUSD mark or so, aren't they? [05:08] <_MMA_> Im gettin a Wii for the kids and am waiting till the fix the resolution issues on the PS3 before I get one. [05:08] <_MMA_> Mithrandir: Last I saw one went for 10k (US) On ebay. [05:09] <_MMA_> sad. [05:09] Mithrandir: like $600 USD retail price, but demand is too high right now [05:09] bloody TSO. [05:09] <_MMA_> Yea. I dont feel like gettin shot commin out of Best Buy. [05:10] damn you americans are crazy.. [05:11] <_MMA_> BenC: I posted to -devel about the -lowlatency kernel. Hopefully I get some help with the spec. [05:16] wheee..must kill someone === arun [n=arun@chobie.cs.Virginia.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mjg59_ [n=mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dade` [n=dade@nectarine/admin/dade] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === dade` [n=dade@nectarine/admin/dade] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === stratao [n=patrick@ip-62-235-241-89.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === stratao [n=patrick@ip-62-235-241-89.dsl.scarlet.be] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["back] [07:08] is the git trees on kernel.org up to date? === tiagoboldt [n=tiagobol@87-196-21-95.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:15] I'm running in a Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 2.00GHz(centrino). What kernel version should I use (386, 686, generic)? [07:15] generic [07:15] tiagoboldt: user questions in #ubuntu please [07:16] ohh, sorry:) Though of it as a kernel specific question, sorry:) === tiagoboldt [n=tiagobol@87-196-21-95.net.novis.pt] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Leaving"] === dade` [n=dade@nectarine/admin/dade] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:00] BenC: ping [08:25] zul, where is your git tree that you keep talking about in bugs hiding. [08:25] kylem: i sent the patches through the kernel-mailing list [08:26] you had the patches in your ubuntu-proposed trees [08:26] no. not all of them. [08:26] gimme a sec. [08:27] the ones on laptop.org are not up to date.. [08:28] http://zulinux.homelinux.net/ubuntu/patches/ === kylem bookmarks. [08:29] you might not want to do that its just tempoary for now [08:29] ill have something more permanent shortly [08:30] kylem: There's a tech-board meeting in 30-minutes...if you show up, they may get around to approving your upload-privs [08:30] heh.. [08:30] BenC, ok. [08:30] kylem: For a carton of smokes, you may persuade me to speak on your behalf :) [08:31] lol. done. [08:31] there. tg3 is my bitch. [08:34] kylem: For another carton of same, you also get my vote. [08:35] for some beer you get mine as well [08:40] heh === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sioux [n=sioux@adsl-ull-146-219.42-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sioux [n=sioux@adsl-ull-146-219.42-151.net24.it] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dade` [n=dade@nectarine/admin/dade] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === kaktusz [n=kaktusz@dsl217-197-179-206.pool.tvnet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:11] kylem: i think we are expecting the beer and cigarettes soon or when its most convient.. [10:12] and yes i have way too much sugar in my system right now [10:22] right later.. === dade` [n=dade@nectarine/admin/dade] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rikai [n=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === rikai_ [n=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@161.53.50.54] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:24] this is great...I have two machines that 2.6.20 doesn't boot on [11:33] and unfortunately that includes a P4 and the Xeon box, so it's not like their ignorable === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-066-227.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:42] doh === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rikai [n=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu-kernel