[12:50] <elkbuntu> Burgwork, is next weekend 'a weekend with beryl'?
[12:50] <Burgwork> if they package it in time
[12:52] <lotusleaf> elkbuntu: a weekend with beryl?
[12:52] <elkbuntu> lotusleaf, Burgwork spent last weekend arguing with compiz
[12:53] <Burgwork> see planet
[12:53] <lotusleaf> elk & burg thx
[01:08] <lotusleaf> Burgwork: "All in all, I was less than thrilled. Does compiz meet Ubuntu's quality standards? Absolutely not. I would embarrassed to give someone Ubuntu if we installed compiz in this state."
[01:08] <lotusleaf> Burgwork: that's why I've held off from testing it (aside from a Mandriva One LiveCD I tried)
[01:08] <Burgwork> yep
[01:08] <lotusleaf> Burgwork: I wanted to wait until a lot of the bugs were hammered out.
[01:09] <lotusleaf> Burgwork: I guess, though, I could join up with the testers following your call for testing, but would that include Beryl?
[01:09] <Burgwork> yep, as long as you use stock beryl from the repos
[01:09] <lotusleaf> Burgwork: is beryl ever going to be hosted in ubuntu's repos?
[01:09] <Burgwork> yes
[01:10] <lotusleaf> awesome
[01:10] <lotusleaf> Burgwork: will you continue to test it or did you remove all your hair?
[01:10] <tonyyarusso> The beryl project head has been swinging by Ubuntu IRC channels lately actually
[01:11] <lotusleaf> tonyyarusso: ya, I've noticed, I hope it [beryl]  receives a lot of testing.
[01:11] <Burgwork> yes, I will
[01:11] <jenda> It's great, and it alone in my hands converted at least 5 people to Ubuntu.
[01:12] <jenda> Simply because it looks great, and works decently (great, considering early beta stage)
[01:12] <tonyyarusso> I think it _could_ be great, IF it got a lot more development work and bugfixing and if we had better video drivers (I'm one of the poor saps with ATI).
[01:13] <jenda> tonyyarusso: I'm on ATI too :(
[01:13] <jenda> It was still good enough to present at the Linux weekend to 100+ people :)
[01:13] <jenda> unfortunately, on XGL
[01:14] <Burgwork> jenda: what card do you have?
[01:15] <lotusleaf> sounds cool, I'll have to give it some testing, but I have to use 9626 v. of the nvidia driver because the newest version segfaults on me with any opengl, a noted bug which includes my card, sadly
[01:15] <jenda> Burgwork: Radeon X300
[01:15] <Burgwork> x300 should work with 3d with free drivers
[01:15] <jenda> it _just_ runs smooth. When I turn on a few more effects, it's not smooth anymore.
[01:15] <tonyyarusso> jenda: Exact same card as me
[01:15] <jenda> Burgwork: eek :)
[01:16] <jenda> Burgwork: tried that.
[01:16] <tonyyarusso> Burgwork: Really?
[01:16] <Burgwork> yep
[01:16] <jenda> Trust me - XGL is better.
[01:16] <tonyyarusso> Which ones?
[01:16] <tonyyarusso> ati or radeon?
[01:16] <jenda> tonyyarusso: the radeon driver
[01:16] <tonyyarusso> Or whatever else is out there?
[01:16] <tonyyarusso> Intriguing
[01:16] <Burgwork> anything below the  x1xxx series has 3d support
[01:16] <Burgwork> nowhere near as good, however
[01:16] <jenda> of course.
[01:17] <jenda> tonyyarusso: seriously, on my machine, radeon+AIGLX is unusable.
[01:17] <jenda> OTOH, XGL is so good I can use it as my main desktop.
[01:18] <tonyyarusso> jenda: Good to know
[01:18] <tonyyarusso> I'd love if it worked with aiglx, but hey
[01:18] <jenda> http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4315/desktopchartenxz9.png
[01:18] <jenda> BTW
[01:18] <jenda> I made that chart for the presentation, if anyone has use for it :)
[01:18] <tonyyarusso> I've heard there's some big changes coming to Xorg for Feisty+1 though, so maybe then?
[01:18] <jenda> maybe
[01:19] <jenda> but I believe it's simply the fact that it's a haxxored driver, ya know.
[01:19] <tonyyarusso> That too
[01:30] <lotusleaf> jenda: is Beryl worth using with the 9626 v. [beta]  of the nvidia driver or should I wait if/when nvidia fixes the segfault bug that affects my gfx card?
[01:30] <lotusleaf> rjian: good evening
[01:31] <jenda> lotusleaf: no idea...
[01:31] <rjian> lotusleaf: hello
[01:31] <lotusleaf> jenda: k thx
[01:32] <jenda> lotusleaf: I installed it on one nvidia machine for the presentation, and I used a guide I'll link you to...
[01:32] <jenda> it work _perfectly_
[01:32] <jenda> as in - no tweaking at all.
[01:32] <lotusleaf> jenda: thx is it the forum or document storage thing guide(s)?
[01:32] <lotusleaf> that sounds cool
[01:32] <jenda> yes, one of those.
[01:32] <lotusleaf> ah, got em bookmarked already, but thx =)
[01:32] <lotusleaf> I installed the nvidia driver manually =)
[01:33] <lotusleaf> k time to build beryl
[01:33] <jenda> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BerylOnEdgy
[01:33] <jenda> that's the one I used.
[01:33] <lotusleaf> jenda: =) thx
[01:33] <jenda> just so you know which driver ;)
[01:34] <jenda> lotusleaf: and there's always #ubuntu-xgl :)
[01:35] <lotusleaf> jenda: very true! but it's like a ghost town saloon, and I'm not packin' ;)
[01:35] <jenda> hehe ):
[01:35] <jenda> err :)
[01:35] <jenda> not entirely true - I got help there whenever I needed, and now I try to help too.
[01:36] <lotusleaf> jenda: I'm sure I'll flap into that channel though and lay some eggs of inquiry when I venture into the caves of Beryl
[01:36] <jenda> hehe
[01:36] <jenda> ok
[01:36] <jenda> #ubuntu-beryl forwards there ;)
[01:36] <Burgwork> http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2006/10/make_something_.html
[01:36] <Burgwork> ugh
[01:37] <Burgwork> it shoudl ubuntu-desktop-effects
[01:37] <jenda> it should
[01:37] <lotusleaf>  /. : "Novell "Forking" OpenOffice.org"
[01:37] <jenda> by try moving an established channel :)
[01:37] <Burgwork> lotusleaf: garbage
[01:37] <lotusleaf> Burgwork: k
[01:37] <Burgwork> Novell has "forked" OO.o since teh beginning
[01:37] <jenda> Burgwork: there is also #ubuntu-effects, but it's near empty, mainly the hardcore enthusiasts and devs there.
[01:38] <jenda> it's not intended as a support chan.
[01:38] <lotusleaf> Burgwork: I thought so, the titles on /., lately, IMO, have reminded me of gossip columns 
[01:38] <Burgwork> actually, that comes from groklaw
[01:40] <lotusleaf> Burgwork: ah, really?
[01:40] <Burgwork> ype
[01:40] <Burgwork> lotusleaf: you don't trust my omnipresence? :)
[01:40] <lotusleaf> lol
[01:40] <Burgwork> there is a reason writing about happenings is so easy for me
[01:41] <lotusleaf> Burgwork: do you subscribe to all these sites' feeds or do you check them manually?
[01:41] <Burgwork> a little of both
[01:42] <lotusleaf> cool
[02:30] <somerville32> http://www.technewsworld.com/story/54507.html
[02:34] <somerville32> So, when do we usually release The Ubuntu Weekly newsletters? Weekly? haha
[02:35] <elkbuntu> it'd be good if we could do it before end of tuesday
[02:36] <elkbuntu> Burgwork, what are you doing at work still?
[02:39] <somerville32> elkbuntu: I can't help on Tuesday unfortunately 
[02:44] <somerville32> I'm going to try and get some stuff done tonight
[03:36] <somerville32> Ok.
[03:36] <somerville32> Updated news, press, upcoming meetings, updates & security, and bug stats
[04:08] <somerville32> I also started Issue 25
[04:50] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: did jenda post your v.3 poster set to the DIY area ?
[04:50] <Madpilot> I think so, yes
[04:51] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: still dated @ nov 23rd http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/Ubuntu_Posters_Roughcut/
[04:52] <Madpilot> hmm, so it is
[04:52] <lotusleaf> ping him to grab the ubuntu poster pack, unless he has it already
[04:52] <lotusleaf> you cc:'d it to him I think
[04:53] <lotusleaf> but he's a busy dude, so.. ;)
[04:57] <Madpilot> I did CC him at the same time I sent it to you; I'll ask again when I see him next on IRC
[05:03] <Madpilot> somerville32, want an Xubuntu version of the roughcut stuff?
[05:05] <somerville32> Sure :)
[05:07] <elkbuntu> yeah xubuntu needs alot more pushing, now that gnome and kde are getting bloatier
[05:11] <Madpilot> bloatier? Gnome keeps getting *faster* with each new release, not bloatier...
[05:13] <lotusleaf> now that java's open source, LookingGlassUbuntu sounds even closer to reality
[05:13] <elkbuntu> i must be in need of a reinstall then... my desktop's gotten slower and uses over a gig of memory w/ 20 firefox tabs, gimp, thunderbird, xchat, gaim and amsn
[05:14] <elkbuntu> it's a dist-upgraded breezy install
[05:20] <somerville32> I find that I need to create a brand new account on my system every once and awhile and it seems to clear up performance issues.
[05:21] <somerville32> Everyone, feel free to push Xubuntu :)
[05:21] <elkbuntu> i need to rebuild this machine anyway.. maybe some extra ram, reorganise stuff between the drives
[05:21] <somerville32> elkbuntu: I have a 333mhz w/ 128mb of ram
[05:21] <somerville32> :] 
[05:22] <lotusleaf> somerville32: xubuntu is very nice ;)
[05:22] <somerville32> lotusleaf: Especially 6.06 - I hear 6.10 is a tad bit unstable.
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> Will Xubuntu put extra stuff in my Gnome menus like Kubuntu did?
[05:23] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: oooh! An xubuntu roughcut poster!
[05:23] <elkbuntu> somerville32, i have gnome in a debian etch install on a p2 350 with 256mb ram and it scrapes through
[05:23] <Madpilot> lotusleaf, not tonight, but maybe by the end of the week ;)
[05:23] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: (= 
[05:24] <somerville32> elkbuntu: Yeah, I can run gnome and kde too but Xubuntu has a definite speed boost (and looks a lot better too!)
[05:24] <lotusleaf> somerville32: have you tried openbox with pypanel?
[05:24] <elkbuntu> i wouldnt go that far :
[05:24] <somerville32> lotusleaf: No but I have pypanel installed 
[05:24] <lotusleaf> somerville32: try it, openbox flies!
[05:25] <elkbuntu> i cant cram enough into either xfce or kde panels :
[05:25] <somerville32> elkbuntu: Well, gaim looks a lot better in Xubuntu. 
[05:25] <lotusleaf> elkbuntu: no? back in the days of DOS I had a batch file driven ASCII-GUI menu system =)
[05:26] <somerville32> You already do :P
[05:26] <elkbuntu> lotusleaf, i said panels... i have like 20 launchers on my panels, as well as xmms, weather, run app, window selector and other default ones
[05:26] <elkbuntu> and i USE all 4 of my desktops :
[05:26] <somerville32> haha
[05:26] <lotusleaf> elkbuntu: ah, wow =)
[05:26] <somerville32> I have two vdesktops
[05:26] <somerville32> and I only put stray windows in my second one
[05:26] <somerville32> I don't run that many applications
[05:27] <elkbuntu> i give gimp it's own desktop
[05:27] <somerville32> Just xchat, gaim (which is in the notification centre) , firefox, and terminal
[05:27] <elkbuntu> it needs it
[05:27] <somerville32> Yeah, it does
[05:27] <elkbuntu> then run musics stuff in another
[05:27] <elkbuntu> and random terminals in the 4th
[05:27] <somerville32> I use the second desktop when I'm using glade
[05:28] <somerville32> And if the music player of the day doesn't have notification minimization, I put it in desktop 2
[05:28] <elkbuntu> mkay, so gnome fits my usage well :)
[05:28] <lotusleaf> <- KDE / OpenBox slut
[05:28] <elkbuntu> i've tried kubuntu, although it's menus are a crapload nicer than any kde i've ever used, it's panel sux0r
[05:28] <somerville32> Xfce4 is like a light version of gnome but without the gnome
[05:28] <elkbuntu> i like the gnome
[05:29] <somerville32> gnome == bloat
[05:29] <lotusleaf> elkbuntu: agreed on that point only
[05:29] <lotusleaf> elkbuntu: though you can always make it like gnome
[05:29] <lotusleaf> elkbuntu: you can add tons of panels and such
[05:29] <elkbuntu> i know you can but i'd rather just use gnome
[05:29] <elkbuntu> i dont care about candy
[05:29] <lotusleaf> elkbuntu: I still use epiphany for the toe wiggle animation in KDE :)
[05:29] <elkbuntu> lol
[05:30] <elkbuntu> if i have to make something look and behave like something else to use it, i'd rather just use the something else ;)
[05:31] <somerville32> elkbuntu: Xubuntu comes and looks like gnome by default :P
[05:31] <elkbuntu> two full width panels by default?
[05:31] <somerville32> Yup
[05:31] <lotusleaf> somerville32: I love the xubuntu animated splash with the wheel, how come gnome/kde don't have anything as cute?
[05:31] <elkbuntu> hmm, this is different since last time i used xubuntu then... back.. a while
[05:32] <somerville32> Dapper changed ALOT
[05:32] <elkbuntu> i might install xubuntu on teh laptop in teh broken debian partition
[05:32] <somerville32> We even have a desktop now!
[05:32] <elkbuntu> a?
[05:32] <somerville32> With desktop icons and stuff
[05:32] <somerville32> :D
[05:32] <somerville32> And Thunar
[05:32] <somerville32> Omg
[05:32] <somerville32> Thunar is amazing
[05:32] <elkbuntu> this make sense if all this happened in dapper
[05:32] <somerville32> It is like nautalius but so much better
[05:33] <elkbuntu> i looked at xubuntu back in breezy and gave it the digitus impukidus
[05:33] <somerville32> :] 
[05:33] <elkbuntu> (may even have been hoary)
[05:33] <somerville32> Not hoary
[05:33] <somerville32> haha
[05:33] <somerville32> Xubuntu didn't exist in hoary
[05:33] <elkbuntu> ok then, that solves that :)
[05:34] <elkbuntu> i might have installed xfce though
[05:34] <elkbuntu> one never knows with me
[05:34] <elkbuntu> but yes. i loathed xfce
[05:34] <somerville32> Yeah, me too
[05:34] <somerville32> I went to #xfce4 and said "How can I have icons on the desktop?"
[05:34] <somerville32> and they are like
[05:35] <lotusleaf> somerville32: xarchiver rocks
[05:35] <somerville32> "You don't WANT icons on the desktop, trust me"
[05:35] <somerville32> "Once you get over it, you'll realize how much better it is"
[05:37] <elkbuntu> heh... my desktop is just a second home folder, and somewhere that partitions become visible
[05:37] <elkbuntu> i rarely see it
[05:37] <somerville32> :] 
[05:39] <lotusleaf> poningru: yo
[05:40] <poningru> yarr
[05:40] <poningru> and on top of exams
[05:40] <poningru> I hate my life
[05:40] <poningru> too much crap :(
[05:41] <poningru> but yes how are you lotusleaf 
[05:41] <lotusleaf> poningru: I took a moment to disregard my high fructose corn syrup boycott to enjoy an ice cream cone with HFCS, so I'm good AND bad,thanks =)
[05:42] <poningru> hehe nice
[05:42] <poningru> good news you can now drink jones soda
[05:42] <lotusleaf> poningru: yeah, I read that =)
[05:42] <poningru> :)
[05:42] <lotusleaf> poningru: it's cool some ppl are finally waking up to see that, IMO, HFCS = evil
[05:43] <poningru> hehe there are eviler things in the world
[05:43] <somerville32> jenda: No posters yet! :)
[05:43] <poningru> like certain kinds of fat, cholestrol etc.
[05:43] <lotusleaf> poningru: yeah but HFCS is in almost everything, it seems
[05:44] <lotusleaf> poningru: even in ketchup!
[05:44] <poningru> treu
[05:44] <poningru> true*
[05:44] <lotusleaf> poningru: somerville32 is inspiring many to try/use xubuntu
[05:44] <lotusleaf> poningru: you should give it a try ;)
[05:45] <poningru> hehe naah
[05:45] <poningru> my friend is putting that on his desktop though
[05:45] <lotusleaf> cool
[05:46] <poningru> hehe yeah he has had nothing but trouble with his ubuntu install on his desktop
[05:46] <poningru> but on his newer laptop...
[05:46] <poningru> runs smoother than a babies bottom
[05:48] <poningru> hahaha
[05:48] <lotusleaf> :P
[05:48] <poningru> yeah heard about the toronto one
[05:48] <lotusleaf> yup ;)
[05:48] <lotusleaf> every corner needs one, forget $tarbucks
[05:49] <somerville32> lotusleaf: That might be feasible because of all the money you'd save from using an open source infrastructure.
[05:49] <lotusleaf> poningru: boingboing didn't post anything about the roughcut posters, but they did post something about how to turn your urine blue :(
[05:50] <lotusleaf> somerville32: very true!
[05:50] <lotusleaf> somerville32: I could even have a few maids dressed up for xubuntu and run in wheels in the window
[05:50] <somerville32> Very nice! :] 
[05:51] <lotusleaf> see? is that solid marketing or what?
[05:51] <somerville32> We couldn't ask for a better team :] 
[05:54] <poningru> hehe yeah
[05:55] <lotusleaf> BHSPitLappy: yo
[05:55] <lotusleaf> we were just discussing an ubuntu powered maid cafe
[05:55] <BHSPitLappy> sup
[06:21] <BHSPitLappy> huh?
[06:21] <BHSPitLappy> what's a maid cafe
[06:25] <lotusleaf> BHSPitLappy: now that's a question I love to hear
[06:25] <lotusleaf> lol
[06:25] <lotusleaf> one sec
[06:27] <lotusleaf> BHSPitLappy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maid_cafe
[06:28] <lotusleaf> "Sometimes the maid outfit is augmented with cat or bunny ears to increase their cuteness" :P
[06:28] <BHSPitLappy> oh dear
[06:29] <lotusleaf> one just opened in canada
[06:29] <BHSPitLappy> lol
[06:29] <lotusleaf> when I win the lottery, the U.S. is next =)
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> That's slightly disturbing
[06:30] <lotusleaf> and now, the flip view
[06:30] <lotusleaf> take it away tonyyarusso
[06:30] <lotusleaf> ;)
[06:31] <lotusleaf>  /o/ that's demeaning!
[06:31] <tonyyarusso> Something like that
[06:31] <lotusleaf> k
[06:31] <lotusleaf> =)
[06:31] <tonyyarusso> I'd have to know one of the employees to decide whether it bothered me or not
[06:31] <tonyyarusso> In short, _I'd_ feel weird going in one, but hey, it appeals to some people.
[06:32] <lotusleaf> well, the states has hooters
[06:32] <lotusleaf> I say no more =)
[06:33] <lotusleaf> which is worse? a maid cafe or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooters ?
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> Probably Hooters.
[06:34] <poningru> they both are
[06:34] <lotusleaf> poningru: winner!
[06:34] <poningru> hehe
[06:34] <lotusleaf> but that still won't destroy my plans for an ubuntu powered maid cafe
[06:35] <lotusleaf>  '._.'
[06:37] <poningru> elkbuntu: why did whiprush disapear?
[06:39] <lotusleaf> poningru: did he get sucked into gaming? :) Last I saw his nick was wii related
[06:39] <poningru> oh ouch
[06:39] <poningru> that cant be good
[06:39] <lotusleaf> but from the planet ubuntu blogs, I think it had something to do with FOSS politics, or something, or so I guess
[06:40] <lotusleaf> but maybe I'm wrong
[06:40] <lotusleaf> poningru: he's probably online @ irc.arstechnica.com #linux
[06:40] <elkbuntu> what lotusleaf said
[06:40] <lotusleaf> poningru: chat him up
[06:40] <BHSPitLappy> way to plan on associating ubuntu with sexual connotation and dirty old men
[06:40] <BHSPitLappy> your marketing endeavors are second to none!
[06:40] <lotusleaf> BHSPitLappy: that's one way to score points for the feminists :)
[06:40] <elkbuntu> lotusleaf, he may not even be there, if he's rejecting FOSS
[06:40] <BHSPitLappy> LMAO
[06:41] <lotusleaf> BHSPitLappy: but, just like a number of burlesque performers, they are feminists themselves
[06:41] <BHSPitLappy> yeah lotusleaf 
[06:41] <BHSPitLappy> because FEMALES use COMPUTERS
[06:41] <BHSPitLappy> lol
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[06:41] <lotusleaf> BHSPitLappy: ever think that some of these women /enjoy/ their positions of power? Knowing that men groveling before them are the ones who are pitiful?
[06:41] <BHSPitLappy> if I stared back, you'd accuse me of something.
[06:41] <poningru> yeah he isnt there
[06:42] <elkbuntu> poningru, ask if they've heard from him at all
[06:42] <lotusleaf> elkbuntu: is he *rejecting* FOSS as a whole?
[06:42] <elkbuntu> lotusleaf, ok, rejecting might be the wrong word
[06:42] <lotusleaf> elkbuntu: everyone needs time to chill, maybe he's just chillin
[06:43] <BHSPitLappy> this fruit is -chill-!
[06:43] <poningru> ajmitch is in there
[06:46] <poningru> nm he is in there under his real name
[06:47] <lotusleaf> poningru: on the ars technica irc server?
[06:48] <poningru> yes
[06:48] <poningru> jorge
[06:49] <lotusleaf> poningru: you stalker you :P
[06:49] <lotusleaf> poningru: say "jorge, come back into the light!"
[06:49] <elkbuntu> poningru, ask him if he's seen Og's blog post
[06:49] <elkbuntu> http://www.ogmaciel.com/?p=310
[06:51] <poningru> hehe yeah I pinged him
[08:45] <somerville32> Burgundavia: Hey
[08:45] <Burgundavia> hey somerville32
[08:45] <somerville32> Whats the plan for UWN24?
[08:45] <somerville32> I got a bit done tonight but alot more needs doing
[08:45] <Burgundavia> right, I am about to head to bed, tired
[08:46] <somerville32> me too
[08:47] <elkbuntu> aww, i'll take a look at it and try whip people. Burgundavia do you think it can be done by end of tomorrow?
[08:47] <elkbuntu> (your tomorrow)
[08:47] <Burgundavia> yep, I have tomorrow night free
[08:47] <elkbuntu> cool
[08:51] <Burgundavia> somerville32: nice work, thanks
[08:53] <somerville32> Thanks :] 
[08:54] <somerville32> Burgundavia: I can do the specification spotlight in about 9 hours
[10:08] <Burgundavia> somerville32: rock
[11:17] <pschulz01> Greetings.. I need some Ubuntu brochures that I can print out... and I would like some 'style' advice.
[11:18] <pschulz01> Is ther anyone here that can advise?
[11:24] <elkbuntu> possibly
[11:29] <pschulz01> elkbuntu: hehe.. the people that you bump into..
[11:29] <elkbuntu> ;)
[11:29] <pschulz01> elkbuntu: I want to create some business cards.. is there a 'style'? or do I just make them similar to the examples?
[11:30] <elkbuntu> pschulz01, ubuntu business cards?
[11:30] <pschulz01> elkbuntu: Yes
[11:31] <elkbuntu> pschulz01, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BusinessCards is no help?
[11:32] <pschulz01> elkbuntu: It's OK, but can I use a MgOpen Modata as the font.. I've creted them in Inkscape.
[11:33] <elkbuntu> i guess so. i havent even done any for myself. i should though.
[11:33] <pschulz01> elkbuntu: I have also redone the Adobe Illustrator brochure in Inkscape as well,
[11:34] <elkbuntu> in what way?
[11:34] <pschulz01> ..into svg format.
[11:35] <elkbuntu> ah, sorry, misread the above... i blame the flickery state of this monitor
[11:35] <pschulz01> It was a while ago.. there may be more stuff available now. but it said everthing I needed it to say
[11:35] <jenda> hey there pschulz01 
[11:36] <jenda> what format/purpose/lenght brochures?
[11:36] <pschulz01> jenda: Hey :-)
[11:36] <jenda> 
[11:37] <pschulz01> jenda: What is 'Ubuntu' all about..
[11:38] <jenda> Surprise :)
[11:38] <jenda> and the format and length?
[11:38] <jenda> Where would they be used?
[11:38] <pschulz01> jenda: elkbuntu I have to apologise.. I need to go out for 45min but I;ll be back..
[11:38] <jenda> ok
[11:38] <jenda> laters
[11:38] <pschulz01> jenda: South Australian parliamentarians.
[11:38] <jenda> ok
[11:40] <pschulz01> Thanks for your patience.
[12:04] <jenda> If it were possible to have one standard Ubuntu brochure that could be used by any loco team that doesn't mind english, I'd vouch for printing it out in bulk to have it done cheaper.
[12:04] <jenda> I can do it, if we get a brochure created.
[12:06] <elkbuntu> didnt madpilot have one done up?
[12:07] <jenda> elkbuntu: it was just a single-page flyer, iirc.
[12:33] <pschulz01> .. I'm back.
[12:33] <jenda> wb
[12:33] <jenda> I'm on my way out.
[12:36] <elkbuntu> still trying to see if there's any existing stuff about
[12:39] <pschulz01> elkbuntu: My brochure is here..  http;//community.mawsonlakes.org/ubuntu
[12:41] <pschulz01> Back in a moment..
[01:01] <pschulz01> I'm back..
[01:03] <elkbuntu> pschulz01, so what about the brochure did you change?
[01:07] <pschulz01> elkbuntu: Converted to svg in inkscape..
[01:07] <elkbuntu> and that is all?
[01:07] <pschulz01> yes..
[01:08] <elkbuntu> so what is the issue? you do want to change it more?
[01:08] <pschulz01> elkbuntu: No.. issue #1 was using a different font on my business card...
[01:08] <pschulz01> (That was the 'style' question.)
[01:09] <elkbuntu> yeah, afaik, no prob at all
[01:09] <pschulz01> Issue #2 was more of a question.. is there anything different (newer) available? I think what I have dates bank to this time last year.
[01:10] <elkbuntu> re the font, if you really want to clarify, trademarks@ubuntu.com would be the place to ask
[01:12] <elkbuntu> issue 2, it's an issue we need to work on
[01:13] <elkbuntu> feel free to hang out here if you want to help us with that ;)
[01:16] <pschulz01> Ta.. I guess what I really want is a 'free' font.. :-) and developed in our free software.
[02:11] <danbuch929> DIY Marketing site bzr push'd and ftp'd:  http://diy.devubuntu.com
[02:12] <danbuch929> thanks, MenZa!
[02:14] <danbuch929> MenZa: feedback addressed to your liking?  --> http://diy.devubuntu.com
[02:15] <MenZa> awesome
[02:15] <MenZa> and
[02:22] <danbuch929> indeed ;-D
[02:22] <danbuch929> ...and yet it's only a fraction of the actual count :-p
[02:23] <danbuch929> ah well - off to work go I - criticize away! :-)
[02:24] <MenZa> :D
[10:43] <Madpilot> intersting short article on Flickr, Linux & FOSS advocacy: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/11/28/1628237
[11:46] <Admiral_Chicago> Madpilot: sweet article