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DanglyBitsanyone help with an audio problem in kubuntu?12:14
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Otiswizard: hm, I had a quick look in Synaptic ... maybe I missed it12:15
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scott__which dvd player do you recommend?12:15
wizardOtis: its there, the default version of kde that ships with it.12:15
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wizardOtis: warning though: kdepowerm is highly buggy in 6.1012:15
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Otiswizard: oh, ok12:16
wizardOtis: so be prepared for your monitor to not shut off for 5 hours.12:16
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Otiswizard: I guess that I should be able to start a KDE session then at graphical logon ?12:16
wizardOtis: yup.12:16
OtisI'll go check that12:16
Otisthx so far12:16
Otislaterz12:16
wizardpz12:16
cntb!alternatives12:17
ubotuTo change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.12:17
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chimaerahi.12:17
chimaeraanyone has experience with suspend-mdes on a desktop PC?12:18
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chimaeraseems my machine doesn't wake up, or at least doesn't display anything. are there problems with the proprietary ati-drivers?12:18
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mango12someone an ideo why my kubuntu found dont find packages? iam connectable :)12:18
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Vladdybinary drivers are evil..12:19
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Otiswizard: I swear that when I click "Options", it offers me a couple of variants of Gnome but no KDE12:20
SupremeBeingcan someone help me with fglrx?12:20
fred__hey, does anybody here know how to install nvidia drivers for kubuntu?12:20
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wizardOtis: well are you on kubuntu or ubuntu?12:20
chimaeraVladdy: but evil is soo much more sexy! and buggy i guess ^^12:20
SupremeBeingnvidia is easy :P try ati >:/12:20
Vladdyand bloated..12:21
chimaeraVladdy: and fast..12:21
cntb!fax12:21
Vladdyif they opened their source..12:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fax - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:21
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chimaeramango12: do you get an error-message?12:21
Otisubuntu ... should have been more clear12:21
SupremeBeing!fglrx12:21
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:21
wizardOtis: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:21
cntb!pnp12:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pnp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:21
Otiswizard: gotcha, thanks12:22
chimaera!hibernate12:22
ubotuhibernate: smartly puts your computer to sleep (suspend to RAM or disk). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.91-2 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB12:22
wizardOtis: no problm12:22
Otiswizard: no need to add sources ?12:22
LjLhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupAndFax12:22
=== Vladdy had it working out of box :S
Vladdydidn't need anything12:22
cntb!isapnp12:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about isapnp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:22
=== SupremeBeing wonders if anyone knows about fglrx??
LjL!botabuse12:22
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)12:22
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SupremeBeingchimaera: I can't get fglrx working :/12:23
Vladdythen read that site? :O12:23
SupremeBeingVladdy: Have done, hasn't worked12:23
SupremeBeingVladdy: I have my xorg.log if it'd help12:23
Otiswizard: btw, what's the difference between kubuntu and kde ?12:23
LjL!kubuntu12:24
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE12:24
chimaeraSupremeBeing: what doesn't work? error-messages? checked /varr/log/X.org.0.log?12:24
SupremeBeingOtis: KDE is a desktop environment, kubuntu is a distrobution of linux12:24
SupremeBeingchimaera: Accelation, i have the log but I don't know what it means http://pastebin.ca/26869112:24
Otiswizard: hm, ok, cheers12:24
SupremeBeingchimaera: something called DRI didn't start, I saw that much.12:25
Otiswizard: last silly question .... does apt-get install kubuntu-desktop get me *just* the desktop ?12:25
SupremeBeingOtis: Nein =)12:26
VladdySupremeBeing: kernel module not loaded? :O12:26
Otiswell then I think I'll go for kde-desktop then12:26
chimaeraSupremeBeing: using fglrx, you can't use composite extension and DRI at the same time so you might want to disable the composite extensions in your xorg.conf12:26
SupremeBeingVladdy: Uhh, not that error message I think12:26
Otisseeing how I installed ubuntu and not kubuntu12:26
SupremeBeingchimaera: Uhh #1 how? #2 will that enable 3d accel?12:26
Otiswizard: does that make sense ?12:26
LjLUbotu, tell Otis about kde | Otis, see the private message from Ubotu12:26
OtisLjL: tx !12:27
chimaeraSupremeBeing: a) quick goolge, b) yes.12:27
SupremeBeingchimaera: Thanks, I'll try it =D12:27
DanglyBitsanyone help with an audio problem in kubuntu?12:27
SupremeBeingDanglyBits: I had an audio problem - check the switches =D12:27
wizardOtis: it gets you  the desktop and all dependencies12:27
SupremeBeingDanglyBits: Make sure the right jack is hooked to your sound12:27
Otiswizard: aren't I better off just getting kde-desktop on top of a vanilla ubuntu install ?12:28
DanglyBitsSupremeBeing: its a plantronics usb headset12:28
OtisI'm just not seeing the comparative advantages between the options12:28
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SupremeBeingDanglyBits: Ahh, sorry can't help with USB.12:28
chimaeraOtis: depends on. i use kde, so i use ubuntu and spare myself all of teh gtk/gnome overhead..12:29
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wizardOtis: it doesnt matter12:29
chimaeras/ubuntu/kubuntu/12:29
Otischimaera: that's exactly what I need .... so straight kde-desktop ?12:29
=== chimaera wonders ehy OS X makes averything so damn easy!
Otisah ok12:30
Otiskubuntu ditches the gtk/gnome stuff ?12:30
chimaerait just doesn't install it in the 1st place12:30
Otisor at least frees one from dependencies with Gnome12:30
Otisok, I like the sound of kubuntu now ! :-D12:30
Otishere goooooes12:30
chimaerahave fun ;)12:30
Otishehe, can't find package, I guess I need an extra source .... I'll look at that website that was mentionned12:31
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faricomo instalo la nueva version de firefox ?12:32
killermach_anyone get hibernate working on kde in kubuntu? I have a hibernate button if I login to a gnome session and it works fine, but no option in KDE logoff12:32
DanglyBitswhere can i find other themes for kubuntu that will work with edgy?12:34
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cntbSending to fax using: /usr/bin/fax NAME="'Tony Osnat Tamir'" DEV='modem' PAGE='a4' FROM='03-5494029'  send '0542050108' '/tmp/kde-user/kdeprint_UOy3STqU'12:34
cntb/bin/sh: /usr/bin/fax: not found12:34
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cntbfax issue on good modem12:34
Otiswizard: the webpage I'm reading seems to assume that I *have* kubuntu packages ...12:34
OtisI don't have them anywhere .... I guess I have to download them ... thing is, the kubuntu page seems to want me to download a whole distro12:35
Otiswhich is notwhat I need12:35
fred__I am having trouble installing the nvidia drivers12:35
Otisis there a repo where I can get just kubuntu-desktop ?12:35
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chimaeraOtis: kubuntu _is_ a whole distro. if you want to install within a ubuntu installation, apt get install kubuntu-desktop12:35
fred__I updated to nvidia-glx12:36
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chimaeraOtis: after you added the ubuntu repositories to aour sources.list12:36
fred__and when I try to enable it with konsole I get an error12:36
soulriderfred__:  is this the first time you install a driver ?12:36
soulriderfor your video card that is12:37
fred__yeah12:37
soulriderah12:37
Otischimaera: well I need the appropriate repo string to add to my sources.list12:37
soulrideryou might want to follow this12:37
fred__okay12:37
soulrider!nvidia > fred__12:37
Otischimaera: I guess I'll find those on the kubuntu website12:37
chimaeraOtis: you migth, but kubuntu uses te same repos as ubuntu does..12:37
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fred__I followed that12:38
fred__and they still aren't working12:38
ryanakcawhy doen't my vt[1-6] s' text have any color? I have it setup so that it does in .bash(something)... colored terminal text only works in konsole/xterm, but not in the vts12:39
Otisapt-get install kubuntu-desktop says "couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop"12:39
ryanakcaOtis: do you have main enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list ?12:39
Otisah, I go see12:39
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soulriderfred__: make sure you edited xorg.conf correctly12:40
Otisryanakca: according to "Software Sources" (the GUI tool for sources.list), yes12:41
Otisjust FYI, I'm on Edgy Eft12:41
chimaeraOtis: quick check with "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"12:41
Otisok but kubuntu,org's own page does not mention ubuntu 6.1012:42
ryanakcaOtis: try ' apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop '12:42
ryanakcapastebin the output please :)12:42
Otisok12:43
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chimaeraOtis: you have yet to get the concept of ubuntu/kubuntu straight, i guess ;)12:43
cntb Error: can't open serial port /dev/modem: No such file or directory12:43
Otischimaera: getting there slowly .... :-)12:44
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fred__how do I install nvidia graphics drivers?12:45
Otishttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35491/12:45
Otismore useful would be to paste the sources.list file12:45
killermach_time to reboot.. working on getting 3D enable for ATI.. brb12:45
chimaerafred__: your're on repeat. follow the howtos and report specirfic problems you encounter.12:46
fred__okay12:46
chimaeraOtis: so post you sources.list12:46
Otishttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35492/12:47
Otis"main" does appear12:47
fred__Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed12:47
fred__the nvidia driver for your running kernel.12:47
fred__Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed12:47
fred__the nvidia driver for your running kernel.12:47
fred__sorry12:47
Otisbut there's those "universe" lines12:47
Otismaybe those need enabling ?12:47
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chimaerano, universe is not required for kubuntu12:48
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Otishm, ok12:48
Otishints / clues welcome12:49
OtisI burned the CD from ubuntu.org yesterday !12:49
chimaeraOtis: list look ok. tried a manual update via "apt-get update"?12:49
OtisAs I said : Edgy Eft12:49
Otisok, I go see12:49
Otisyay !12:50
Otischimaera: you got it !12:50
Otisthanks12:50
chimaeraOtis: np12:51
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Otischimaera: you're a star12:51
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chimaeraOtis: i know. everyone notices ;)12:51
Otischimaera: funny really, all these nifty n00b-friendly GUIs for all admin tasks ... they don't do an update after first start !12:51
Otischimaera: a last thing ... what's the easiest way of getting rid of gtk/Gnome when I have kde set up ?12:52
scott__I am looking for a good DVD player for linux....is there one?12:53
Otisapt-get remove gnome-desktop ?12:53
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Otisor is there a root gnome package that would remove all dependants along with it ?12:54
chimaeraOtis: well, remove the gtk-libs i suppose, but probably you don't want to do that for it removes, of course, everything gtk-related. you might want to try to delete the ubuntu-dektop meta-package and see if the auto-remove function kicks in..12:54
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fred__what does this error mean: Error: unable to locate nvidia kernel driver!12:54
Otischimaera: ah, there are a few things we really can't avoid gtk ?12:54
fred__I installed nvidia-glx12:54
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chimaerascott__: there's tons. check xine, mplayer and their appropriate frontends like kaffeine. i prefer codeine, fast and simple. uses xine.12:55
chimaeraOtis: at least for me there are.12:55
scott__ok12:55
Otischimaera: ok, cheers, it's chugging along nicely now12:55
chimaeraOtis: of course it is ;)12:56
Otischimaera: I'm not exactly looking forward to setting up ndiswrapper again12:56
Otistook me a whole evening once, trawling through the wiki article trying to identify my chipset, getting the right drivers from Links etc12:56
chimaeraOtis: what wifi device are you using?12:57
OtisWPC45G12:57
Otisit wor ok once you've got ndiswrapper configured ok and the right driver files12:57
fred__I followed all the howtos for the nvidia-drivers, but they are not working12:57
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chimaerawell, ndiswrapper itself should be no pain. then you have wireless-manager to take care of the rest. i just don't know how it plays along ndiswrapper.12:58
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chimaeras/wireless-manager/network-manager/12:58
Otisfred__: you sure you don't have more detailed logs from the X server ?12:58
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gtwyim putting kubuntu on a new system tonight12:58
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gtwywhich has 2 Intel Xeon QUAD core chips :)12:59
Otischimaera: you must be kidding me ! Sure, the apps are ok but they can't guess what drive files to download and they don't identify your chipset for you automatically12:59
gtwyanyone know any good benchmarking software?12:59
Otischimaera: 'cos that's the hard part12:59
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Otisok, must go to bed12:59
bkudriacan anyone help me get korganizer to upload free/busy info?  i want to upload it to a webdav:// url, but korganizer tells me 'a resource could not be created until one or more intermediate collections (folders) have been created".  Which folders do i need to create?  I am not using Kolab...12:59
Otischimaera: thanks for all the help12:59
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Otiswizard: thanks for the help12:59
chimaeraOtis: you're welcome, bye01:00
fred__no, I don't have any detailed logs01:00
OtisLjL: thanks for the help01:00
fred__but...01:00
fred__do I need to have the .run files from nvidia's website on my computer?01:00
Otisfred__: the X server provides TONS of information in its log01:00
Otisfred__: and dmesg ?01:00
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fred__I remember that last time I installed the drivers it was pretty much painless01:00
Otisfred__: don't nvidia provide a configuration tool while it installs its drivers ?01:00
fred__no01:01
fred__I don't believe so01:01
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chimaerayay, netsplit!01:02
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melecio_WINE is the best "emulator" for windows apps? (i've read that is NOT an emulator)01:04
scott__is wine in the repository?01:04
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jbruckmancan anyone help me with a stalled KTorrent?01:05
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melecio_i've already installed WINE01:05
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chimaerajbruckman: try stopping and then resuming it01:05
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josh_hi guys01:06
chimaerahi01:06
josh_i need help deciding on a new distro01:06
josh_i'm just looking around for something that is really well designed01:06
josh_that has lots of eyecandy01:06
chimaerawell, welcome to #kubuntu for unbiased counceling01:06
josh_lmao i know01:07
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melecio_i think wine webpage is down, is there any other site where i can find some info and FAQ's? (about wine=01:07
josh_but do you suggest anything01:07
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josh_yellowdog for playstation 3 looks wicked01:07
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josh_and i dont want XGL01:07
jbruckman!chimaera I've tried that. I'm on a school network, and i'm trying to forward it through port 80.01:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about chimaera I've tried that. I'm on a school network, and i'm trying to forward it through port 80. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:07
chimaerajosh_: just eyecandy-wise?01:07
josh_and a bit of ease of use01:07
jbruckman:chimaera I've tried that. I'm on a school network, and i'm trying to forward it through port 80.01:07
josh_!mezzo01:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mezzo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:07
josh_nobody knows about mezzo01:07
josh_it looks nice01:07
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josh_mezzo and e17 are nice desktops01:08
chimaerajbruckman: oh, i see. you might want to see if ou can use some http-tunneling, but i'm not familiar with that.01:08
josh_xgl is nice but unstable01:08
jeismafirst of all, how do you know if your drive is mounted? second, if it is mounted, how else do you check for errors (fsck) without damaging the drive?01:08
jbruckmanchimaera01:08
jbruckmanchimaera: I've got a friend who has it working with just the port set to 80 on campus, and he's in my building--he01:09
jbruckmanisn't using any sort of tunnel01:09
chimaerajbruckman: so have you set the port to 80?01:09
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chimaerajosh_: you don't choose your distro based on teh desktop it uses, for any decent distro offers you THOSE ANYWAY.. ^^01:10
chimaerasry, caps.01:10
jbruckmanchimaera: yes, but all I get is a stalled torrent01:10
josh_i know01:10
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josh_i just want somthing really clean01:10
josh_and something that not everybody uses01:10
chimaerajosh_: get debian.01:10
josh_like kubuntu01:11
chimaerajosh_: sorry, you lost me. btw, everybody knows (k)ubuntu ^^01:11
josh_look at screens for playstation3 yellowdog01:11
josh_i'd like something similar to that01:11
josh_basically, i want the fady stuff and glass toolbars and icons01:12
josh_except XGL, thats too much01:12
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josh_and dont say windows vista LOL01:12
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chimaerajosh_: keep your kubuntu and install beryl.01:13
josh_i find all linux distros have huge icons01:14
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josh_but does anybody know about mezzo01:14
josh_i will keep kubuntu01:15
josh_i'm just looking around for something01:15
bkudriacan anyone help me get korganizer to upload free/busy info?  i want to upload it to a webdav:// url, but korganizer tells me 'a resource could not be created until one or more intermediate collections (folders) have been created".  Which folders do i need to create?  I am not using Kolab...01:15
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josh_oh i know01:17
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josh_a linux that has the look and feel of windows vista/mac os01:17
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josh_cept i have a thing against both01:17
josh_lol01:17
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josh_#solaris01:18
malik__hi guyz is there any1 usin opera in kubuntu?01:18
malik__im usin opera in kubuntu with pretty much default settings but opera is not detecting any plugins......how do i make it work.......its workin okie in konqueror01:19
malik__plzzzzzzzzz can some one help?01:19
josh_GUYS I THINK I FOUND IT01:20
josh_SOLARIS01:20
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malik__ ppl here n now comments abt opera ?01:22
malik__330*01:23
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flaccidmalik__: if you run from cli is there output?01:26
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moj0risingDoes anyone know where I can get some ubuntu-specific Amanda documentation?01:28
moj0risingFor installation and configuration.01:28
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hananhow do I reconfigure my soundcard? I'm thinking along the lines of alsaconf (how I do it under gentoo), but do I have to apt-get something like alsa-utils first?01:33
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dom!sound01:34
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin01:34
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hanandom, cheers01:36
domnp, hanan01:37
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Murrlingood evening01:37
Murrlin(forgot to say thanks last night)01:38
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MurrlinI am wondering what I can use to sweep out all unneeded/unexistant/orphaned menu items (automatically if possible)?01:38
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malik__plzzzzzz can some1 tel me how to install plugins fgor opera?......konqueror is workin just fine but opera cant find any plugins?01:40
malik__google said install libmotif3 n i did it but no avail01:40
malik__any ideas guyz?01:41
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malik__im just a newbie guyz.........will appreciate gr8ly if some1 can help01:45
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benjaminkipgood morning everyone!01:50
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homerhi, could someone please tell me how to change the font(?)(the letterstyle) of firefox?01:50
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flaccidanybody using gimp 2.3+ ?01:51
homercause i dont like the letterstyle of kubuntufirefox01:51
smaggardhmmm01:51
flaccidkubuntufirefox?01:51
homerfirefox installed on kubuntu:)01:52
smaggardwhen is voice/cam support going to happen in linux? never.........01:52
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smaggardall gaim is worried about is better icons01:52
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flaccidletterstyle?01:52
homersorry ,dont know the english word01:53
smaggardfont i think is what hes saying01:53
homerthe way a letter looks like01:53
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smaggardfont and point size01:53
homeris it font? good01:53
smaggardwhat country u from homer?01:53
homergermany01:54
smaggardcool01:54
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pinkonqkoj ot BG ima li?01:54
smaggarda exchange student from turkey just broke my heart but i cant get over it haha so i mention it all the time... hey i just mentioned it again.01:54
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homerpoor u01:54
smaggardyeah poor me01:54
smaggardi need to find a way to get over it01:54
smaggardlol01:54
pinkoBG?01:55
smaggardi think firefox just uses the same fonts that kde is setup to use01:55
Jucato(no, Firefox uses GTK)01:55
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homerok, cant i have the normal xp font?01:55
pinkoo.k. good night!01:55
benjaminkiphow can I have bible in my kubuntu like edubuntu?01:55
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smaggardhmmm01:55
chimaerabenjaminkip: search your software-management-programm for bible01:56
Jucatobenjaminkip: ask in #edubuntu what those bible-related packages are. then install them01:56
homersounds maybe weird , but i have the feeling like i get headache reading with this font01:56
chimaerabenjaminkip: for kde there's bibletime01:57
benjaminkipokey..01:57
benjaminkipthanks01:57
benjaminkipwhere do i get them01:57
benjaminkipfrom adept?01:57
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chimaerawhoo, there' slots of bible-related stuff. who would have thought..01:57
chimaerabenjaminkip: yes01:57
benjaminkipthanks..01:58
benjaminkip iam looking into it now01:58
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Jucatoyou might want to take a look at the sword packages. I think they're bible-related01:59
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chimaerathere's even a latex-package for bible references. i'm amazed.01:59
chimaerabenjaminkip: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=1310802:01
Emess"My OS is feisty" this is going to be good...02:01
Jucatochimaera: that's available in the repos02:01
Jucatoanything that is on Edubuntu can also be installed in Kubuntu and Edubuntu02:02
chimaeraJucato: i'm aware of it, it'S about the description.02:02
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Jucato!kio-sword02:02
ubotukio-sword: kio-slave for the Sword Bible tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 116 kB, installed size 468 kB02:02
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parsekcolors are weird in video, i haven`t installed any video drivers, what should i do02:04
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parsekwould any codec help or should i install ati drivers?02:05
homerwhere can i deaktivate the jumping icons when i execute a program?02:06
chimaeraparsek: probably a codec problem? which video.formats do you use?02:06
parsekI use vlc havent installed anything else yet02:06
chimaerahomer: disable application startup notification02:06
parsekand those are avis02:06
chimaeraparsek: most likely codec-issues.. wait a sec.02:07
homer<chimaera>where to find?02:07
chimaerahomer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed502:08
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Jucatohomer: Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol" then under Appearance & Themes look for Launch Feedback02:09
ErtainDoes anyone know of a good webcam program?  At least, I hope I set this up correctly.02:09
chimaeraoh, the link above was for parsek02:10
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parsekthe colors arent like wrong like green is yellow they just look awful, like yellow is more orange shaded but still yellow; but it isnt anything that changes when I adjust brightness or anything like that02:11
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parsekand actually I have installed those w32codes...02:11
chimaeraparsek: install the w32codecs like described at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed502:12
chimaeraoh, i see. tried another player?02:12
parsekdoesnt help02:12
chimaeraprobably overlay issues.02:12
parsekmplayer does that too02:12
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parsek?02:12
chimaeravideo driver related. can't help on this, though.02:13
parsekits odd because when I first installed kubuntu to this computer it wrked fine02:14
homer<Jucato>thx...puh was hard to find.translating computerlanguage is not my best ;)02:15
Jucato:)02:16
nata1whats the best firewall to use with kubuntu?02:16
majnoonall of them ??02:16
nata1the retarded one or just the ones not really giving me a straight answer securitywise?02:17
LjL!firewall02:17
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).02:17
nata1right on02:17
Lothar|ZZZ!samba02:18
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:18
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Lothar|ZZZ!smbd02:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smbd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:18
homerokay, who helps me installing "wine" ? i searched a little in adept manager but couldnt find it :(02:18
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arielbyay i dloaded kubuntu and burning cd now02:18
LjLhomer: do you have universe enabled?02:18
rance1!sound02:18
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin02:18
arielbnever tried linux before02:18
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homerim gonna look02:18
MurrlinBeOS!02:19
arielbi tried beos before02:19
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arielbnow can i boot from cd?02:20
homer<LjL>....dont know..where to find this setting?02:20
LjLUbotu, tell homer about universe | homer, see the private message from Ubotu02:20
LjL!wine02:20
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.02:20
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arielbhmm did i burn the cd?02:27
smaggardcan i do !wine too?02:28
smaggard!wine02:29
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.02:29
smaggardwahoooo02:29
arielbi wonder how good wine is02:29
smaggardwine is aight, but crossover runs quickbooks :D02:29
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arielbwill it run office 200302:30
majnoon<<usually has cedega,crossover,AND regular wine02:32
majnooncrossover SHOULD02:33
arielbok time to boot into kubu for first time!02:33
majnoon!upgrade02:33
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)02:33
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majnooneasy enough I COULD DO IT02:33
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flaccidtime for more coffee02:36
flaccidcrossover or cedega aint free :(02:37
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Lothar|ZZZhei wish to set my ip staticly from console to 192.168.1.10  and also to have the nameservers with it02:39
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majnooncrossover CHEAP and so is cedega02:42
majnoonand if you want to do cvs if i remember right you CAN get cedega for free too02:43
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majnoonno support though02:43
homeri think i installed wine :)  thx02:43
ubuntuoh cool02:43
ubuntui'm in kubuntu02:44
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otaku-sando I have to log out and in to get the KBFX menu?02:46
otaku-sanI'm clicking apply but it isn't working02:47
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annonmhi02:49
annonmhows it going?02:49
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arielboh no02:51
arielbi tried kubuntu and it crashed02:51
arielbdidnt take too long :/02:52
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LeeJunFanarielb: hrm, probably a crappy driver. My mailserver has been running for about 240 days now.02:55
LeeJunFanw/o a reboot.02:55
arielbi loaded my webpage which had an embedded quicktime video02:55
arielbi should say i was running it from the cd02:55
LeeJunFanI've only ever used the CD as a rescue disk to work on windows machine that have files I can't modify/remove from the booted windows system. :/02:56
arielbeven still it shouldn't crash the whole os like that02:56
LeeJunFanarielb: how did it crash? Just lock up?02:56
arielbthe whole screen went almost completely black02:56
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arielbtaskbar messed up02:57
LeeJunFanarielb: usually when something like that happens it might freeze the display but the core of the OS is still running in the background.02:57
arielbit was weird02:57
arielbi wuld think only the app should crash02:58
homerwhich codec do i need for amarok or kaffeine to work? there was a warning window but it gone away02:58
homeraudiocodec02:58
Jucato!libxine-extracodec02:58
majnoonLeeJunFan: how did you fix it i have same prob every so often02:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libxine-extracodec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:59
LeeJunFanarielb: unfortunately to play videos correctly X pretty much has to give full control to video program in doing so it opens itself up to the bugs the app might have.02:59
cpk1homer: technically none, it depends on the media you are trying to play02:59
arielbhmm02:59
homerwanted to listen to internetradio02:59
LeeJunFanthen you might be able to hit ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X, not the whole system.02:59
LeeJunFan!libxine-extracodecs03:00
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB03:00
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arielbok i will try again but i hope it doesn't crash again on my website03:01
LeeJunFanJucato: don't feel bad, I normally call build-essentials (with s) :)03:01
Jucato:)03:01
rance!sound03:01
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin03:01
arielbbrb03:02
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sirjinxHi, where can I get info about kxdocker for kubuntu?03:03
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flaccidgoogle03:04
flaccidhttp://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=kxdocker&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-803:04
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flaccidmmmm coffee03:11
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arielbback03:13
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arielbok this has a weird way of changing the time03:17
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arielbhow do i set my 3rd and 4th button to go back and foward?03:24
arielbi have microsoft intellimouse03:24
homerlibxine-extracodecs was the right answer,but it took a looooong time till it was downloaded03:25
flaccidarielb: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=ubuntu+microsoft+mouse&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-803:25
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greg_aidiiiiiiii hoooooooooo03:27
greg_some people was here?03:28
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arielbhmm03:28
arielball i found is how to do it through some kind of hack03:29
flaccidsounds right03:30
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Dr_willisHow else you going to become a leet-haxor03:31
arielblol03:31
flaccidm$ don't provide a configuration program or driver for mouses onlinux03:31
arielbi'm trying to do this for my *mouse*03:31
Dr_willisWhat are ya trying to do? I just got here.03:31
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arielbconfigure my mouse buttons03:31
Dr_willisto do what........03:31
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arielbback and foward03:32
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flacciduse xmodmap03:32
Dr_willis:)03:32
arielbi set the 3rd for back and the 4th for foward03:32
Dr_willischeck the gentoo wiki pages. they have details on that topic.03:32
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Dr_willis:)03:32
Dr_willisi saw them just the other day03:32
Dr_willisI never set up the buttons that way.. because i always forget they are set that way03:32
Dr_willisheh03:32
arielbi use them all the time for browsing03:33
Dr_willisBackup your xorg.conf befor altering it. is all i can say. :)03:33
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flaccidi don't know if you will need to put anything in xorg.conf03:33
arielbwell so far i'm running kubu off a cd03:33
flaccidi did it for my m$ trackball03:33
Dr_willisI normally use those butons for 'grenades' and 'med packs' in games03:33
arielbso i expect it to be slow03:33
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nata1is there a way to change the resolution in bash/shell?03:34
Dr_willisflaccid,  ive seen a combo of xorg tweaking and xmodemap being used03:34
flaccidah ok03:34
arielb(this first time trying linux)03:34
flaccidi didn it without xorg.conf iirc03:34
flaccidbut yeah cool03:34
nata1and change the fonts.03:34
flaccidarielb if vendors like m$ made software for their hardware for *nix then you wouldn't have to 'hack'03:34
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Dr_willisI even had a Logitech Mouse with a Vibrating motor.. for 'force feedback' -03:35
flaccidi wanna get a logitech trackball. the trackball is for index finger and not thumb03:35
flaccidhehe03:35
Dr_willisI will stick with my Logitech MX518 for a long time i think03:36
Dr_willisits the best mouse ive had..03:36
arielbmy brother wants to get the wii. now wouldn't that controller be useful03:36
flaccidi acquired a m$ trackball which i'm used ot03:36
Dr_willisI hear the wii isent that 'accurate' for pointing/cursor movement. :)03:36
flaccidbut my boss bought all new comobo at work03:36
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campbchi'm trying to run a home web server using apache, but i can't ping my machine from another.03:38
campbchhow would i establish this connection? how do i know what the ip address is if i can't ping myself from another computer?03:39
BluesKajsamba03:39
BluesKajremote pc ...nm03:40
homerwhats a good radiorecording software on kubuntu?03:40
SupremeBeingcampbch: You have to have a static IP to host a web server.  Do you?03:40
campbchhooowww would i know?03:41
SupremeBeingcampbch: Uhh, there's sites that can evaulate it.  I don't know off the top of my head03:41
campbcheven if its not static, can i still determine what it is at this instant?03:41
SupremeBeingcampbch: yeah03:41
campbchhow?03:41
SupremeBeingcampbch: try going to no-ip.org i think it says at the top03:41
flaccidcampbch: establish what connection? you have a look at your interfaces to see what the ip is03:42
flaccidSupremeBeing: you don't need a static03:42
SupremeBeingflaccid: oh?03:42
SupremeBeingflaccid: oh yeah03:42
SupremeBeingflaccid: it's much easier if you do though :P03:42
flaccidits better, but not easier03:42
flaccidwhatismyip.com will return the ip address of the host you are on03:43
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cs_hi03:44
flaccid!apache > campbch03:44
cs_reinstalled kubuntu, seems i can't boot windows xp at all again03:44
Dr_willis:)03:44
flaccidcs_: thats prolly because it overwrote the mbr on /dev/hda03:44
cs_yeah, grub took it's place03:44
cs_it worked before though03:44
Dr_willisthe xp/windows entry in grub dosent have work?03:44
majnoonflaccid so will ifconfig in linux and ipconfig in windoze03:44
cs_nope03:44
cs_says something about invalid device or so even though the partition isn't corrupt or anything03:45
flaccidyep03:45
cs_i've never came across this error before03:45
Dr_willishmm.. you can mount the windows partitions and see the files on it?03:45
cs_yes03:45
majnoonif it not 127.x.x.x or 192.168.xx.xx then that you ip addy03:45
cs_winxp is on /dev/hda603:45
flaccidsounds like invalid grub entry for windows03:45
Dr_willishda6 - gesh.03:45
Dr_williswindows has always been on hda6 ?03:45
cs_data is on /dev/hda5, linux is /dev/hda103:45
cs_yes03:46
flaccidgrub uses disk,partition03:46
Dr_willisthis is a serial drive? or ide?  (im guessing ide)03:46
cs_ide03:46
cs_i've had linux on /dev/hda6 before and windows on hda103:47
campbchwell, i have the IP address, but... it hasnt changed03:47
cs_no problem03:47
campbchso its static03:47
campbchi would think03:47
campbch?03:47
campbchit's 198.111.39.4503:47
Dr_willishmm... you reinstalled windows to hda6 eh?03:47
flaccidits static if it is set static in /etc/network/interfaces or just look in system settings | network03:47
cs_yeah03:47
campbchbut that doesn't connect to the webpage03:47
Dr_willischeck the /boot/grub/device.map for a start.03:47
flaccidcampbch: read the apache doc03:48
Dr_willisthen check the grub menu.lst and be sure its got the right infor for where windows is supposed to be.03:48
campbchkk03:48
Dr_williswow - i got 7 hard drives in this box. :)03:48
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cs_very weird; i can't 'sudo kate' :\03:49
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Dr_willis:)03:49
kalmahvim ftw03:50
cs_heh, just (hd0) /dev/hda03:50
Dr_willisYou only got 1 hard drive eh - heh heh03:50
flacciddon't sudo kate, use kdesu03:50
Dr_willisi got hd0 through hd6 :)03:50
rancecan someone help me with a sound card setup problem, I've already read all the docs and I know that the right kernel module is loaded, but still dont have sound.  other distros have sound on this box, but not kubuntu, also aplay -l shows two devices with one snd-card03:51
flaccidcs_ that doesn't look right at all03:51
campbchok, it didnt say anything about how to check... if the port is open03:51
campbchgrr03:51
cs_i only have one drive :)03:51
cs_just 3 partitions03:51
Dr_willisthats his device.map file.03:51
campbchdo i need php, mysql, etc?03:51
flaccidcampbch: netstat -a | grep -i listen03:51
flaccidcs_: hd(0,2) perhaps03:51
flaccidcampbch: no03:52
Dr_willisdo a sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda and be sure the numbering is right.  rember gub starts counting at 0. so hda6 would be.. err.. hmm... hd(0,5)03:52
Dr_willisor would it matter if you had primaries befor it.. hmm...03:52
flaccidnot necessarily dr03:52
Dr_willisI always use all primaries..03:52
Dr_willisjust to avoide these things..03:52
flaccidyeah03:52
flaccidneed to count it manually03:52
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SupremeBeingcan anyone take a look at http://pastebin.ca/268691 (xorg.log) and try to help me with fglrx03:53
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campbchok, i started it, and used that command03:54
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campbchand it returned http://rafb.net/paste/results/T19uWp53.html  , flaccid03:54
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campbchi dont see 80 in there?03:54
campbch:(03:54
tony134340anyone know anything about joystick setup?03:54
cs_http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/26889603:54
cs_that's the menu.lst03:54
flaccidcould be this, SupremeBeing: (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found03:55
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arielbok i had the same crash as before03:55
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arielbscreen went black though i could see my pointer03:55
cs_http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/268899 fdisk's results03:55
arielbi tried control alt space-didnt do anything03:56
flaccidcampbch: thats coz its a known port in inetd. its listening on all interfaces it appears: tcp        0      0 *:www                   *:*                     LISTEN03:56
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campbchsoo..... why is it saying that the connection times out03:57
campbch?03:57
campbchif its listening on that port03:57
campbchand my ip is 198.111.39.4503:57
campbchit is, correct?03:57
campbchhow do i check that?03:57
flaccidifconfig03:57
FlameMasterhelp! I broke Xorg and I'm currently on failsafe mode. I don't remember the command used to reconfigure it, anyone?03:57
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flaccidyou won't be able to access your WAN ip usually internally03:57
flaccidthat could be the timeout03:57
flaccidyou need to use the LAN ip internally03:57
Dr_williscs_,  see the 'stanza' at the end with   root(hd0,4), make copies of that whole 'stanza' and try (hd0,3) and (hd0,5)    :) or just edit that line and reboot/tri it03:57
flaccidie. 192. or 172. or 10.03:58
campbchAHAH!03:58
campbchit gave me the wrong ip addy03:58
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flaccidi'd try wat Dr_willis said but in grub prompt so you don't have to restart more than once03:58
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cs_heh i've actually tried editing that number and booting 3 and 5, same error03:58
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Dr_willisflaccid,  yea - but whats the fun in that! :)03:58
flaccidcs_: ask in #grub03:58
FlameMasterplease help, my monitor is being all shaky ;_; What is the command used to reconfigure Xorg? I remember I had to use dpkg03:58
Dr_willisWhat IS the exact error anyway?03:59
flaccidhehe03:59
flacciddpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i think03:59
cs_i will03:59
FlameMasterflaccid: YES! Thanks a lot!03:59
malik__hello ppl............can any one help me ?............i cant make opera detct plugins which konqueror is workin just fine with in kubuntu 6.1004:00
campbchcould someone try 172.24.23.165 and tell me what they see?04:00
malik__i have been tryin to ask for help for a while now.......plzzzzzz help04:00
Dr_willismalik__,  check the wiki/forums perhaps? I dont use opera. :()04:01
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Dr_willisnot  even sure of the proper way to install opera. heh04:01
Dr_willis!opera04:01
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser04:01
flaccidmalik__: is there output when run from cli?04:01
SupremeBeingabattoir_: you around?04:01
flaccidcampbch: that address is internal, we won't be able to access it04:02
abattoir_SupremeBeing: hi, yes04:02
SupremeBeingabattoir_: I need a few more tips on fglrx :D04:02
SupremeBeingabattoir_: hello, btw04:02
abattoir_SupremeBeing: i know next to nothing about it :P04:02
abattoir_SupremeBeing: never have used an ati card04:03
campbchhow do i find the external address?04:03
malik__cli?04:03
SupremeBeingabattoir_: well it's not the fglrx specifics that I've messed up ( I think )04:03
SupremeBeingabattoir_: I have a pastebin of this "xorg.0.log" thing? That apparently is helpful somehow? :P and I can't interpret it04:03
SupremeBeingabattoir_: ah ;) lucky you04:03
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campbchflaccid?04:03
abattoir_SupremeBeing: link?04:04
SupremeBeingabattoir_: yes, sorry: http://pastebin.ca/26869104:04
flaccidcampbch: depends on your set up. is this box the gateway or is it a router. just goto whatismyip.com04:05
flaccid!ati ? SupremeBeing and also try #xorg04:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ati ? SupremeBeing and also try #xorg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:05
flaccid!ati > SupremeBeing and also try #xorg04:05
SupremeBeingflaccid: I have tried 3-4 methods I've read04:05
SupremeBeingflaccid: Including those, still get the Mesa vendor stuff....04:05
flaccidyeah there is a fix for that04:06
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SupremeBeingflaccid: You'd think :P i haven't found one04:06
flaccidi fixedbrb04:06
flaccidits somewhere04:06
SupremeBeingflaccid: cool! :D04:06
flaccidbut i mainly worked it out myself to fix it04:06
flaccidcan't remember what i had to do04:06
campbchdoes 198.111.39.45 work?04:06
campbchif that doesn't, what's the next step?04:07
SupremeBeingflaccid: You worked it out yourself?! you must be a genius =)04:07
campbchflaccid is busy, holding like 3 conversation threads at once :p04:07
SupremeBeingindeed :D04:07
bkudriacan anyone help me get korganizer to upload free/busy info?  i want to upload it to a webdav:// url, but korganizer tells me 'a resource could not be created until one or more intermediate collections (folders) have been created".  Which folders do i need to create?  I am not using Kolab...04:09
flaccidand a phone call and work hehe04:09
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SupremeBeingthey've got an awful lot of coffee in Brazil!04:09
campbchok, sum of the situation: i am trying to access a webserver from outside the network, i am behind a router, where my internal ip addy is 172.24.23.165 and my external is 198.111.39.4504:09
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SupremeBeingThey've got a zillion tons of coffee in Brazil!04:09
flaccidSupremeBeing: i'll find it for you eventually. busy as thats all04:09
campbchhow do i get through to port 80 on my machine?04:09
SupremeBeingflaccid: I've got time, no rush =D04:10
flaccidcampbch: port is is not open on that IP addresss04:10
campbch? :o04:10
campbchok, so how do i open it?04:10
flaccidis that on the web server or is that the router?04:10
flaccidcool SB04:10
campbch198.111.39.45 is this machine's ip address, the web server04:10
campbchi dont know what the router is04:10
flaccidi doubt it04:11
flaccidyou wouldn't have two wan IPs04:11
campbchi dont04:11
flaccidusually04:11
flaccidwhat is the address from whatismyip.com?04:11
campbchi have a local , 172.whatever, and a wan, 198.111.39.4504:11
campbch198.111.39.4504:11
campbchfrom whatismyip.com04:11
flaccidis your modem bridged onto your computers NIC or is it a separate router?04:11
campbchim on wireless?04:12
flaccidright04:12
campbch:(04:12
campbchit should still be possible, i would think?04:12
flaccidin that case its probably port forwarding required on your router to the LAN ip of the web server04:12
campbchethernet is not available04:12
campbchso i cant do it without access to the router?04:12
flaccidthe port is closed atm04:12
flaccidwell your router probably has a firewall04:13
flaccidand yes needs the port forward04:13
campbchcan i have it listen and send requests to a port that is open?04:13
flaccidyes but you would still need the forward if its not routed or nat'd04:13
campbchlike, can i use the other browser to look for 198.dfjlajsdfas.:openport?04:13
SupremeBeingabattoir: Still got that 2 minute lag? =)04:13
flaccidi'm port scanning your ip, nothing is found to be open so far....04:14
campbch:o04:14
flaccidcampbch: i don't know what you mean?04:14
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campbchi can get web pages fine on this computer, and if no ports are open, that means that i would not be able to get web pages?04:15
SupremeBeingflaccid: is this the method you used? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143283&page=304:15
computerhi ya people04:15
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SupremeBeingcomputer: Hi04:15
towynchi =)04:15
flaccidcampbch: yeah . you need to understand networking.04:15
campbch.04:15
SupremeBeingtowync: =)04:15
flaccidinternal access is ok, but external is not due to requiring a port forward04:15
Dr_willis'become one with the network, take the blue pill!'04:15
towyncSupremeBeing =)04:15
abattoirSupremeBeing: ocassionally ;)04:15
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towyncJucato is signed on too hehe04:15
towynchi abattoir =)04:15
SupremeBeingabattoir: dial up? I'm sorry :P04:15
abattoirhi towync :)04:15
towyncthx for the help yesterday04:15
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abattoirSupremeBeing: no, a 30Mbit connection, i believe04:16
SupremeBeingabattoir: :O04:16
SupremeBeingabattoir: I'd sue!!04:16
towynclol04:16
campbchwell, the way i see it, apache is listening on port 80 on my machine, but if i can send and recieve, say, IRC messages there must be some communication through that port, can i switch apache to that port and tell the other browser to go to the port that is already being forwarded to the port that would be otherwise using irc?04:16
abattoirwell, i don't know how much of it is freenode's fault04:16
SupremeBeingtowync: abattoir is god, no?04:16
abattoirlol?04:16
towyncof course =)04:16
campbchsomething like 198.24.23.321:6004:16
flaccidSupremeBeing: maybe. but i found that i had to do different stuff. i did it manually and not by stuffing around with packages.04:16
SupremeBeing=D04:16
campbchor whatever's open04:16
Jucatoyeah abattoir is god :)04:16
SupremeBeingflaccid: ah, well i'm going to try this way real quick, and i'll be back04:17
towynchi Jucato04:17
flaccidcampbch: no you can't.04:17
Jucatohi towync04:17
SupremeBeingflaccid: You gonna be around?'04:17
campbchno? :(04:17
flaccidyeah i should be. lunch soon04:17
flaccidyes no, campbch04:17
SupremeBeingflaccid: Lunch. wow lol, it's10pm here04:17
flaccidits 2:17pm here04:17
SupremeBeingabattoir, towync, flaccid, brb :)04:17
towync*dinner afk*04:17
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flaccidwow gimp 2.3 rox04:18
campbchowell, thanks flaccid04:21
flaccidyou must be at work or school or something, campbch?04:21
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binary2k2hi, i'm having a problem with firefox 2.0 on edgy, just shows this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35514/04:24
flaccidis that on a specific page in the page binary2k2?04:24
flaccidor error dialog04:25
binary2k2it's the error dialog that shows when I try to open firefox04:25
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flaccidok. checkout http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=opera&rls=en&hs=W5m&q=XML+Parsing+Error%3A+undefined+entity+Location+chrome+firefox+2&btnG=Search04:26
flaccidi think it could be time for a big mac04:27
campbchoh no04:27
campbchyou want a whopper04:27
campbch:o04:27
campbchor panera bread04:27
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flaccidw0a did i just write big mac04:29
flaccidi actually meant to write whopper04:29
flaccidhungry jacks like 2 blocks away04:29
campbch:o04:29
campbch<- shift managing @mcdonalds ftl04:30
campbchpays for college until an internship becomes a valid option04:30
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Dr_willisYa want fries with that?04:31
campbch:p04:31
Dr_willis'would you care to supersize that glutton bucket sir?'04:31
Dr_willis'extra lard! yes sir!'04:31
campbchi dont flip burgers, i do paperwork while telling people how to flip burgers04:31
Dr_willis'shall i schedule your heart attack now, or do you want it to be a suprise?'04:31
campbchand i fix the registers :( it's sad when fixing POS POSs is the best that can happen to you in a week04:32
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flaccidi got a free POS yesterday04:35
campbch:p what brand?04:36
campbchyou can probably do some interesting hacks with a pos04:37
Dr_willisthey had a bunch of blade racks and other parts on the docks at work today. :) dident see anything worth... 'testing' :)04:37
flaccidsquirrel04:37
Dr_willisPlus i wanted to keep my job...04:37
flaccidhehe04:37
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flaccidi just wanna use the screens04:38
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SupremeBeingvery sorry all... I screwed up04:38
Dr_willisThey tossed out a lot of crt's the other day... i 'aquired' a lot of spare power cables from them.04:38
Dr_willis:)04:38
Dr_willislike i NEED more of those.04:38
flaccidhehe yeah04:38
flaccidPSU cables04:38
flaccidtime for whopper04:38
flaccidbbs04:38
SupremeBeingflaccid: that guide said to remove linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r), but that didn't do anything, so I removed the common ones04:39
SupremeBeingflaccid: and now it won't boot!! :P04:39
flaccidi don't even think you need to do that04:39
flacciddang04:39
SupremeBeingflaccid: Probably not lol, but now I gotta reinstall kubuntu04:39
SupremeBeingflaccid: I'm on the live CD now04:39
SupremeBeingflaccid: did you figure out the correct way to do it yet?04:40
flaccidshould be something you  can do without reinstall04:40
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flaccidi can't figure it out, because i've already done it04:40
SupremeBeingflaccid: oh lol, that wasn't in the guide, the reinstall - that was cuz I f***** up04:40
SupremeBeingflaccid: it wasn't supposed to happen like this!04:40
flaccidits just another annoying bug in linux land04:40
jefrihelo there, i just installed kubuntu in my desktop and its nice04:40
flaccidbbs04:40
SupremeBeingflaccid: yeah... I'll give you 20 more minutes to figure it out xD - by then i'll have it installed and running again04:41
SupremeBeingjefri: it is nice isn't it04:41
jefriyupe04:42
jefriand now  i trying to install beryl04:42
jefriwish me luck04:42
SupremeBeingjefri: hope you don't have the annoying ati drivers to deal with that I do =P04:42
SupremeBeingjefri: yuck04:42
SupremeBeingjefri: luck* =P04:42
SupremeBeingflaccid: Is there a way to replace a package in recovery mode without an internet connecton?  can I use the kubuntu cd as a repository?04:42
towyncSupremeBeing you can use cd as repos i think, but not the one for install i think04:43
SupremeBeingtowync: damn... guess i gotta reinstall huh04:43
SupremeBeingtowync: =P04:44
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towyncSupremeBeing probably, what happened04:44
SupremeBeingtowync: I uninstalled something I shouldn't have04:44
SupremeBeingtowync: linux-restricted-modules-common04:44
towyncSupremeBeing o hehe04:44
SupremeBeingtowync: lol... i'm so retarded04:44
towyncSupremeBeing you might wanna ask more people tho, before you actually reinstall, i'm not too knowledgable =)04:45
SupremeBeingtowync: it's not a big deal, I can get back to where I was before in about 5 minutes04:45
SupremeBeingtowync: Haven't got settled in much yet :D04:45
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towyncSupremeBeing but i think if u had another comp with internet connection, you can download the repo to that comp, make a cd, and pop it in04:45
SupremeBeingtowync: it'd actually be quicker to reinstall at this point haha04:45
towyncSupremeBeing cool =) i actually reinstalled once too04:45
towyncSupremeBeing haha, that's cool04:46
SupremeBeingtowync: all I gotta do is click this little icon =D04:46
towyncSupremeBeing and then we'd see you gone from this channel =(04:46
SupremeBeingtowync: this is cool, didn't think I would have internet on the live  CD, but I do!04:46
towyncSupremeBeing hehe nice04:46
SupremeBeingtowync: ya xD04:46
SupremeBeingtowync: I wonder if my internet will stay thruout the installation04:47
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SupremeBeinggosh  Kubuntu installs fast... 3:39 remaining and i just started it!!04:49
SupremeBeing<304:49
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SupremeBeingtowync: would you recommend upgrading to edgy before I work more on fglrx?04:49
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SupremeBeinganybody? =P04:51
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towyncSupremeBeing o sorry, I was gone for hw abit hehe04:52
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towyncSupremeBeing I think edgy might be good04:52
towyncSupremeBeing but I haven't gotten Beryl worked out on edgy yet, so I wouldn't be the right person to ask =04:52
towync=)04:53
SupremeBeingtowync: ahh04:53
towyncSupremeBeing ya hehe =)04:53
SupremeBeingtowync: I think i read that it's harder to get xorg and fglrx to get along on edty, but I don't reallyy know04:53
towyncSupremeBeing that might be true i guess, since i'm having trouble with beryl too, i'm using kubuntu edgy, but i think that was mostly cuz of me merging abunch of command lines together in the beginning and then did a little mixing of my own, and voila, beryl doesn't work04:54
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SupremeBeingtowync: heheh that's what I did the first time I had to reinstall04:54
towyncSupremeBeing so maybe stick with dapper then =)04:54
SupremeBeingtowync: I tried to make my own kernel and then upgrade to edgy via cmd line, and BOOM it won't boot =D04:55
towyncSupremeBeing yeah hehe i guess it's lesson learned for the both of us lol =)04:55
SupremeBeingtowync: indeed :)04:56
SupremeBeing!fglrx > supremebeing04:56
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SupremeBeingtowync: K, installation done, i'm going to reboot real fast and fix this :)04:57
towyncSupremeBeing cool, go od luck =)04:57
towyncgood*04:57
SupremeBeingtowync: Thx =D04:57
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King_Bradhow do i change the amount of colors used for my display in KDE?04:59
King_Bradi tried in the display thingie in system settings but its not there....04:59
jefrihmmm, why my lcd display tend to blur? as if there is no anti aliasing feature05:00
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SupremeBeingtowync: =)05:02
King_BradSupremeBeing: do you know where i would go to change the amount of colors my display uses?05:02
towyncSupremeBeing congrats05:02
King_Bradfrom like 16bit to 32bit and etc?05:02
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SupremeBeingKing_Brad: your graphics card config utility?05:02
towyncSupremeBeing afk hw again =)05:02
SupremeBeingtowync: ahh i'm so glad i don't have hw today05:03
SupremeBeingtowync: what grade?05:03
King_BradSupremeBeing: um, dont know where thats at05:03
SupremeBeingKing_Brad: Hmmm, let me look05:03
SupremeBeingKing_Brad: ok I found it05:03
SupremeBeingKing_Brad: go to system settings, then under Hardware, then Display05:04
ct12amIs sudoers the group I need to add my user to to sudo or the sudoers file?05:04
King_BradSupremeBeing: tried05:04
King_Bradits not there05:04
SupremeBeingKing_Brad: what's not there?05:05
ct12amBecause my user didn't have permission to write to the sound device, so I added my user to a group and solved that, but I still have more issues, like not being able to mount my flashdrive05:05
King_Bradthe option to change my color depth05:05
SupremeBeingKing_Brad: try appearence05:05
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King_Bradtried there too05:05
King_Bradnot there05:05
ct12amSo, in addition to sudo access, I'd like my user to have proper permissions, I dunno what went wrong, I have one user account with appropriate permissions and one that's bunk.05:06
SupremeBeingKing_Brad: I see05:06
King_Bradno clue where i do it now :(05:06
SupremeBeingKing_Brad: well you stumped me :/ the way I did it was through my video card config utility05:07
SupremeBeingKing_Brad: but if you don't have a stand alone vid card, I don't know what to do05:07
SupremeBeing!colordepth05:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about colordepth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:07
King_BradSupremeBeing: i have a nvidia geforce4 mx440 installed05:08
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King_Bradi dont have the drivers from nvidia installed tho05:08
King_Bradjust the ones that come with kubuntu...05:08
SupremeBeingKing_Brad: Try that, or give it a google :P you stumped me05:08
King_Bradk thx05:09
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SupremeBeingflaccid: back yet?05:11
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flaccidyeah05:14
SupremeBeingflaccid: any luck remembering?05:14
flaccidno chance05:15
morticixsacha, thank you for providing the patches to the svn :D05:15
xsachawhich one?05:16
SupremeBeingflaccid: darn05:16
morticiboth 3d.c and showdesktop.c05:16
mortici:)05:17
morticinow it works like a beaut :D05:17
xsacha:P05:17
xsachaby the way, scale plugin already correctly used wmType05:17
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morticiexcelent05:17
morticii think there was one more plugin that had the issue but i don't remember what05:18
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morticii think window grouper had the problem, or wait when you pressed f7 or f6 lemme see if it still does it05:21
morticino it doesnt05:21
morticinvm05:21
morticixsacha, what is the super button?05:22
xsachawindows key05:22
morticihmmm mine doesn't work :P05:22
xsachacheck xmodmap05:22
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xsachawhat is your mod4 line when you check:  xmodmap05:22
SupremeBeingWOOT OMGOSH WOOT I DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:23
morticisuper_l and Hyper_L05:23
xsachaso left windows key works mortici?05:23
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morticihmm no im trying the screenshot plugin and super + 1 does nothing05:24
xsachacan you zoom with super + scroll ?05:24
SupremeBeingflaccid: HAHA WOOT!!05:24
SupremeBeingtowync: YAYAYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! woot =D05:24
xsachamortici: super05:24
xsachamortici: super + 1 is also default key for group select05:24
morticinope05:25
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flaccidsweet SB, what did it05:26
morticinvm05:26
xsachamortici: what does: xev     say your windows key is? :S05:26
morticilol if i hold super + 105:26
benjaminkiphi  there everyone05:26
morticiit zooms05:26
xsachaehhh super + 1 is set to zoom? :S05:26
morticiyes how do i set it to scroll05:26
xsachasuper + 4 and super + 5 is the scroll05:27
SupremeBeingflaccid: I have no idea, fresh install, followed guide exactly, and BOOM it works!05:27
flaccidyeah i think i might have done it by accident too..05:27
flaccidwatch out but05:28
SupremeBeingflaccid: Lol, hope I never have to do it again05:28
flaccidif you change xorg or other stuff it will go back to mesa05:28
SupremeBeingflaccid: will I have to go through all that again if I upgrade to edgy?05:28
flaccidhopefully not05:28
SupremeBeingflaccid: phew05:28
flaccidbut i woudn't be suprised if edgy tried to give a new xorg.conf05:28
flaccidcan someone confirm that?!05:28
benjaminkipdoes any know if they have recording and editing software on Kubuntu?05:29
morticixsacha, now it works :)05:29
flaccidyes i know benjaminkip05:29
benjaminkipoh really05:29
flaccidaudacity05:29
benjaminkipcan you please let me know05:29
flaccidrosegarden05:29
flacciddepends what you want05:29
xsachamortici: :) if you want your righthand super key to work too:         xmodmap -e "add mod4 = Super_R"05:29
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benjaminkipI have krec but does not work05:30
benjaminkipactually like you know soundforge type05:30
benjaminkiprecording and editing05:30
SupremeBeingbenjaminkip: Just a word of advice, look in adept, there's probably 2005:30
morticiquick question any reason why i would get a API mismatch when i install the nvidia drivers, i tried installing the suo apt-get nvidia-glx way, which it did install but then it can't find the driver, so i did a manual install and every time i boot up it says i have a API mismatch, i then have to re run the nvidia installer and then startx and then it will work05:31
benjaminkipthank05:31
SupremeBeingbenjaminkip: np05:31
abattoirbenjaminkip: if you just want normal wave editing, kwave should do05:32
abattoirbenjaminkip: take a look at rosegarden if you need a bit more advanced stuff05:32
abattoirbenjaminkip: jokosher is up and coming too05:32
flaccidrosegarden is a sequencer. audacity is an editor.05:33
benjaminkipoic05:33
SupremeBeingabattoir: I did it! =)05:33
abattoirSupremeBeing: reinstalled? or got ati working?05:33
SupremeBeingabattoir: both!05:33
abattoirSupremeBeing: cool :)05:34
SupremeBeingabattoir: I did a fresh install, then followed steps exactly, and *wow* works05:34
flaccidpity about the fresh install but what can you do..05:34
SupremeBeingflaccid: Ah no biggie, i had done one last night also05:34
SupremeBeingflaccid: i seem to think I know more than I do, so i do stupid stuff05:34
flaccidits like that until you get on top of it05:35
flaccidnow i dont ever stuff up a *nix install05:35
SupremeBeingflaccid: hehe05:35
flaccidunlucky the old days..05:35
flaccidunlucky = unlike05:35
SupremeBeingflaccid: this is good tho, i'm learning bash at an accelerated rate05:35
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SupremeBeingoh yeah, what's the command to bring up the little fglrx test?05:37
unix_infideldid they go a head and have the ubunt-classroom session on systems administration...05:39
unix_infidelthe website hasnt been updated, so i'm not sure whether something went down or not.05:39
unix_infidelnor are the transcripts posted....so...05:39
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flaccidfglrxinfo05:41
soaahello all05:41
SupremeBeingflaccid: I meant glxgears, found it05:42
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soaais that package 'knetworkmanager' supposed to work?05:42
flaccidok05:42
flaccidglxinfo as well05:42
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soaabecause it doesn't work for me, am i missing something?05:42
flaccid!knetworkmanager05:42
ubotuknetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 213 kB, installed size 1448 kB05:42
flaccidwhy doesn't it work?05:43
soaait tries to connect, and fails all the time05:43
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soaanote that NetworkManager used to work fine, but it died ever since I switched to KDE05:43
flaccidwhy does it fail?05:43
soaait says connecting, then it disappears and reappears without connecting05:44
soaait's the same thing whether i use the gnome or kde frontend05:44
soaanote that wired works fine05:44
flaccidcheck logs05:44
soaawhich?05:45
flaccidum05:45
flaccidrelevant ones in /var/log/05:45
soaahmm05:45
soaai checked and it didn't help, from what i recall05:46
soaai'm on Windows right now05:46
flaccidso you checked /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog05:46
flacciddid you also run it from cli to see errors?05:46
soaano, i didn't try that05:47
soaabut i checked those logs05:47
soaado you have MSN?  perhaps you can help me out tomorrow, i have to go now05:48
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SupremeBeinganybody know the default location of the primary cdrom?05:54
imbrandon /media/cdrom005:56
SupremeBeingah I found it, hdc, thanks tho05:56
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kamuiis there an ftp client with SSL support?05:57
imbrandonkamui: try sftp ( secure / ssh ftp ) , requires a ssh server ( e.g. no plain ftp for use with ssl )05:57
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kamuiimbrandon: I actually need an ftp client with ssl support ot connect to a ssl ftp set up at work05:58
kamuiall I can think of is flashfxp in windows05:58
kamuior smartftp in windows05:58
kamuineither of which works well in wine05:58
imbrandonahh try konqueror then or gftp05:58
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kamuigftp doesn't seem to support ssl05:59
nightpeoplekamui: lftp supports ssl05:59
kamuiill try that05:59
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cs_no, i didn't get the windows problem sorted yet06:01
cs_but is there a way i can output sound to the sound blaster live instead of the onboard sound?06:01
nightpeopleneed help with k3b. i set up kubuntu for a friend. works great! initially k3b worked great. now suddenly k3b starts but the process gets stuck in a D state and I have no idea why. can't find any clues the log files nor has google. any ideas where to look?06:06
dennisterhowdy pps...anyone been able to get word 2003 installed under wine?06:06
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gtwygrbu wont boot, giving me error code 2206:07
tchoughdennister: i haven't tried, but your best bet is to look up word 2003 in the application db at http://www.winehq.org/06:07
gtwyjust did an install06:07
dennisternightpeople: i'd love to get cdrecord and cdrao (for k3b) too06:07
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dennistertchough: yes, I've been working through that site, the part that's up, anyway...large portions of server are down at the moment06:08
dennisterand the wine irc channel is mostly dead06:09
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jhutchinsdennister: irc is totally dead.  What are you, a nerd?  Get out and get face time with some real people!06:10
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nightpeopledennister: gather you've had no luck then either. everything thing great to start. if i could find something helpful in the logs it'd be a start. that or another app which will burn cds for him.06:11
dennisterlol...it's after midnight here in toronto06:11
eMishif i clone myself, two of us will be real people06:11
jhutchinsum.  cdrecord?  k3b?06:11
dennisteroh, my drive wil burn all right...that's not a problem, what is a problem is mythtv working with cdrecord and cdrao...can't seem to change the permissions for cdrecord and cdrao06:12
tchoughdennister: oh, i didn't know... i've never tried setting up word 200306:12
jhutchinsAh.06:12
nightpeoplejhutchins: cdrecord = cd-r burning program. k3b = pretty frontend for cdrecord06:12
tchoughgtwy: so are you on another machine right now?06:12
dennistereMish: but r u in toronto?06:13
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dennisteryes, so the frontend, k3b works, backend has probs on its own06:14
nightpeopledennister: hmm... the opposite of my problem. wonder if we merged ours ... :-)06:15
dennisterheheheh...i think my prob is that cdrecord and cdrao are looking for the wrong devices...i only have one, which k3b recognizes can do it all06:16
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draikI have a digital camera with a 2GB SD card...06:20
dennisteroh yes nightpeople? any bright ideas?06:20
draikseems that I can't read from it.06:20
draikCamera is asking me to format.06:20
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draikI have pictures in there that I would like to have.06:20
draikIs there a way for me to get the pictures from the SD card without formatting?06:21
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nightpeopledennister: wonder if that could be *my* problem (looking for wrong device)... hrm... originally it was looking at /media/cdrom0, which is great if there is disc in the drive. if there is no disc, don't believe /media/cdrom0 exists.06:22
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draikJucato: You here???06:23
Jucatojust arrived06:23
draik:(06:23
draikMaybe you might be able to help me out06:23
nightpeopleit might explain k3b hanging in the D state06:23
Jucatodo you have a card reader for that?06:23
Jucatoer.. what exactly can't read it? Kubuntu or your Camera?06:24
draikNo. I have it connected through USB06:24
draikBoth06:24
Jucatohm... something might be wrong with the card if the camera can't even read it06:24
draikKubuntu can't read it and the camera is suggesting that I format the SD card, but I don't want to lose the pictures from my trip to Texas06:24
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draikMy girlfriend and her cousin were just looking at the pictures and turned it off. Later on today, my girlfriend went to see the pictures and was unable to do anything.06:25
Jucatoyou're quite in a pickle... the card itself might be having my some problems06:25
dennisterfor me, it's strange, in kcontrol only root seems to have priviledges for cdrao and cdrecord, which are app commands; i don't know how to change permissions for commands so that they will live past a reboot06:25
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draikJucato: PLEASE tell me there is a way around this06:26
draikI know you know of a way around this06:26
dennisterperhaps i should be making a symbolic link from these to /usr/local? no...that wouldn't change the permissions of the commands06:26
JucatoI wish I could tell you... unfortunately I don't know..06:26
draikwhat should I be googling?06:27
Jucatotry to Google for the error message that the camera is giving you06:27
draikhmmm06:28
draikok... time to duplicate the error06:28
draikbrb06:28
nightpeopledennister: what group owns cdrao and cdrecord? i don't have my friend's machine here and my laptop doesn't have it installed. but i seem to recall that was set for another group which I added my friend to06:30
draremi recently upgraded to 6.10, but it is booting to a prompt06:31
draremi can log in, under tty1 - tty606:31
drarembut somehow am not getting the kde to start up06:31
nightpeopledennister: i believe it was the cdrecord group06:33
dennisternightpeople: root is the owner and the group06:33
nightpeopledennister: oops.. meant cdrom group06:33
dennisterok...i think i tried to get it switched in kcontrol to cdrom...didn't help the myth problem, mythtv not being able to get permission for it, even though it had permissions for cdrom06:34
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tchoughdraik: you definitely don't want to lose pictures from texas!06:35
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draiktchough: I am from California. I fell in love with SATX when I went to go visit my girlfriend's family for thanksgiving06:36
nightpeopledennister: okay. did you try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure cdrecord06:36
dennisterok, i think i know why the fronet end can burn, but backend commands can't...clue is in permiisions of the device vs those of the commands in kcontrol06:37
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dennisteri'll try that terminal command, nightpeople06:37
tchoughdraik: san antonio is a great city... you should visit austin some time if you're in the area again.  it has a very unique atmosphere that a lot of people find appealing06:38
dennisternightpeople: that may have done the trick for cdrecord anyway06:39
draiktchough: I was going to be visiting Austin, but my gf's brother is 20 and could't go so my gf decided to just stay home and drink (under supervision for her brother)06:39
draikI was out there for a week06:39
draikNov 20-2706:40
nightpeopledennister: cool! half the problem solved maybe06:40
draikIf I would have known a tux was out there, I would have hit you up for spots06:40
draikJucato: Nothing.06:41
dennisterand the group for cdrecord, in kcontrol, is now cdrom...in the permissions column...the new permissions column is still root:root06:41
dennisterhow how to do the same for cdrdao and growisofs?06:41
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dennisterand i won't be able to test it with mythtv for a few days anyway...i'm waiting for a new tuner to come from hauppauge, NY06:43
nightpeopledennister: what does  ls -l /usr/bin/cdrecord  show for the owner/group?  root/root or root/cdrom?06:44
Jucatodraik: sorry dude, I have no ideas :(06:44
draikI think I might have found something...06:44
draikI hope this works06:44
dennisterbut ty very much nightpeople :) myyth was only complaining about cdrecord, anyway06:44
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dennister-rwsr-xr-- 1 root cdrom06:45
dennisterof course, i still have my msoffice disk in the drive now...i'll take it out, as wine doesn't want to install it06:46
nightpeopledennister: looks like you got it and least far as cdrecord goes. the user has to be in the cdrom group in order to execute cdrecord. this maybe be all you needed if it was mythtv's only complaint06:47
EndlerYou here Jucato?06:48
Jucatoyes I'm here. but I don't have that problem you mentioned06:48
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EndlerIn case anyone else does:06:48
EndlerDoes anyone else have the problem of their system hanging on shutdown if splash is enabled.  I was pulling my hair out thinking it was an acpi problem, but it shuts down 100% of the time when I have don't use the splash boot option.06:48
tony134340anyone know how to control sound while in game?06:49
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EndlerI wonder if it has something to do with X switching video modes06:49
EndlerIt never gets to the shutdown splash.  Just a black screen.06:49
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dennisterwell, it was a stubborn complaint...but my biggest problem was the IR blaster for the wintv-pvr 250 was never designed to transmit signals to the setopbox...it only received...so that's way it was returned in favour of the wintv-pvr 15006:50
EndlerThat's why I didn't know my shutdown problems was a splash problem and not an acpi problem.06:50
nightpeopleEndler: mine does it randomly with a kubuntu-installed kernel. my own compiled ones work fine. have yet to figure what why06:50
dennisterother than my being forced to manually change channels with the setop box's remote, it was wokring nicely06:50
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kamuianyone familiar with lftp?  It got me onto my work ftp (ssl only), but when I try to get files, I get this odd delaying... reconnect in 40 seconds crap, then it just repeats without grabbing teh files I want.  I can browse the ftp sites files fine however06:51
JucatoO.o06:51
Endlernight:  Yours is a splash problem too?06:51
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EndlerDo you still have the stock kernal avail on your menu?06:52
nightpeopleEndler: yup, only on my laptop, an old compaq presario p2/33306:52
dennisterEndler: why do you want the splash anyway? i don't, i like the verbose bootup so i can see any possible problems without necessarily going through all the logs06:52
EndlerBecause it's not my machine.06:53
EndlerInstalled it for someone else--a non techie.06:53
dennisterahhh and the user wants the pretty splash hding all the scripts?06:54
EndlerThe splash works fine on bootup.06:54
nightpeopledennister: gl with the myth. i want to play with it eventually but haven't had the time06:54
Endleronly a problem at shutdown.06:54
EndlerThe non-quiet splash is a good compromise.06:54
dennisternightpeople: it's MUCH easier with edgy06:54
nightpeoplekamui: i often get the reconnect message if the site if busy or a bad connection. usually disconnecting and reconnecting fixes it for me06:55
Endlerbut it hangs on shut down when I have it set that way too.06:55
EndlerIs there a way to use splash on startup, but not on shutdown?06:55
dennisterwell it's almost one a.m here in toronto...i should toddle off to bed...glad i could get one thing fixed, thx to nightpeople06:56
dennistergood night all06:56
EndlerNight06:56
kamuinightpeople: I might have gotten lucky, I used mget this time and I got an immediate download06:56
kamui:)06:56
kamuithanks for your help, I would have been screwed if you hadn't suggested this06:56
nightpeopleEndler: yes, i still have the stock kernel available on my menu. for some reason the wireless works with the stock kernel but is flaky with my compiled one. my fault really. i haven't had a chance to figure just where.06:57
kamuireally didn't want to have to dualboot windows in order to just to connect to the work ftp06:57
kamuiwell, bbl06:57
nightpeopledennister: glad to help. have fun with myth06:57
EndlerNight: Try removing the splash option for the stock kernel boot option to see if it's splash causing your problem.06:58
EndlerI'll bet a lot of people have the problem and think it's an acpi problem.06:58
draikJucato: Nope. I seem to have been able to access something on the SD card, but no pictures06:58
nightpeopleEndler: will try that, but not now or i'll "be off the air" :)06:58
EndlerK, I'll check back with you.  Are you using an ATI card?06:59
nightpeopleEndler: mine could well be acpi problem, the machine is old enough. can't complain too much when the Free Hardware Fairy delivers presents. :)07:00
nightpeopleneomagic in this laptop07:00
draikCamera still wants me to format SD card07:01
EndlerThere haven't been any bios updates issued for this machine is since 2003, so it could easily have been an acpi problem, but  I guess that's working fine.07:01
nightpeopleheheh... got you beat. think this machine dates to c.1999.07:04
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EndlerWell, the hard drive I replaced in this machine before installing Kubuntu was from '99. :)07:05
nightpeoplei'm still using the original 4g drive. i have a whole 800 meg free :) eventually I'll get a bigger drive.07:06
morticiwhich java should i install?07:07
morticiblackdown? or sun systems?07:07
EndlerWell, now would be a good time to run out and pick up one of those Christmas season doorbuster hd specials.07:08
nightpeopleyou read my mind :)07:10
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nightpeopleEndler: 1:15 am and i have to be up at 6, guess i better get off to sleep. i'll let you know about the splash screen07:14
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cs_any idea on how to get my sblive to be used instead of onboard? (no this isn't a dell)07:21
crimsunwhat's the output from ``asoundconf list''?07:22
cs_CK8S and Live07:22
crimsun``asoundconf set-default-card Live'', then log out and back into KDE07:22
cs_okay07:23
EndlerAnyone know of any linux utilities for editing windows registries?07:24
robotgeekhmm, now that's new :)07:24
crimsunfdisk works pretty well07:25
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EndlerWell, I installed a new hard drive with the old one still in so I could transfer windows to the new  drive to the first partition of the new drive and then install Linux on the rest.07:26
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EndlerUnfortunately I booted from  Windows on the new drive to test that it was working and it change it's boot drive registry entry to D.07:27
Endlerand now it's C.07:28
EndlerI hate the damn Windows Registry!!!07:28
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cs_thanks, it's all working07:29
EndlerThat's the number one thing I love about Linux--no registry.07:29
robotgeekEndler: well, gnome uses kind of a registry. but its not binary == all good07:29
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Endlerwell, as long as you can just use a simple text editor from another os on another partition, it guess it's not so bad.07:30
gtwywhen it tells me to take my cd out and press enter to finish rebooting it just hangs07:30
gtwyafter the install07:30
gtwysafe to just power off and power back up?07:30
EndlerAlthough I prefer no registry at all; just simple config files.07:32
gtwyEndler: i think the registry was originally built around a good concept however it got WAY out of hand07:33
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gtwyokay i have a big issue07:35
Admiral_Chicagoask07:35
tchoughi don't like the registry either, but i really really really hate having to learn different config file syntax for every program i want to configure07:35
gtwyduring the install my monitor was sort of going crazy horizontally: it is moving back and forth07:36
gtwyi thought maybe it was~ because i didnt have a monitor plugged in when it started and that when it finished installing and i booted into the system it would go away, well it didnt07:36
gtwyi booted up the system with the CD before and it didnt do this with the montir, but i had to reinstall because of problems with grub07:37
gtwyim running the 64 bit version07:38
Admiral_Chicagogtwy: try this "sudo apt-get dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"07:39
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: apt-get and dpkg-reconfigure?07:40
Admiral_Chicagogtwy: try this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"07:40
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: shh...07:40
Jucato:P07:40
Admiral_Chicagoremember the potential energy of a spring is one half the force tension of the spring times the lenght of its displacement squared07:41
Jucato@_@07:42
Jucatono I won't remember that07:42
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Physics_Study_Guide/Springs07:42
Jucatono I won't click on that :P07:42
gtwyAdmiral_Chicago: i shall thanks07:43
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kelviearg.. I'm studying springs atm right now too :/07:43
gtwyAdmiral_Chicago: worked great thanks07:46
Admiral_Chicagogtwy: np07:47
gtwyAdmiral_Chicago: dont happen to know any good benchmark software for multiprocessor systems do you?07:47
Admiral_Chicagono. you can try apt-cache search "string"07:48
Admiral_Chicagothat might help you07:48
unix_infidelwhy would you want to benchmark multiproc sys?07:48
unix_infidelmost of them have already been benchmarked for you.07:48
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gtwyunix_infidel: i just got a dual Intel Xeon QUAD core system07:51
gtwywell, i have it until friday07:52
unix_infidelgtwy: so what's the point of benchmarking.07:52
unix_infidelenjoy it.07:52
unix_infidelmaybe get something DONE!07:52
gtwyunix_infidel: i have no real use for it07:52
unix_infidelmost people who buy expensive tools dont.07:52
unix_infidelunless they are smarter than the avg bear.07:53
crimsungtwy: easy, just rebuild the entire Kubuntu archive.07:53
gtwyif i had something that cracked shadow files using multiple threads si would probably put it to good use07:53
gtwybut everyething i know about that does that is single thread07:53
gtwycrimsun: where can i get information to do that07:54
crimsunuse your favourite Web search engine07:54
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gtwyhmm something i should do07:56
gtwy!repositories07:56
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:56
burepeIf I set up my server right could I get to it from any computer with my comps ip address? (the web domain dns are updating)07:57
gtwyburepe: is it behind a router / firewall?07:57
burepeyeah07:58
burepeI forwarded ports07:58
gtwyall computers behind the firewall will have access to all ports, and all computers on the internet will have access to it if you set the ports up correctly07:58
burepeIt should be all right but I don't know how to check it is there07:58
gtwyand if you want help setting up a good linux dynamic DNS service i can show you07:58
burepehow can I get to the comp from outside though.07:59
burepegtwy I will take the advice, but I got dns at the company that I bought the domain name from07:59
gtwyburepe: oh you have a static ip08:00
burepeyeah08:00
gtwydynamic dns is for dynamic ip addresses08:00
burepewell08:00
burepeyeah08:00
burepethe external is not static08:00
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burepebut the internal is08:00
gtwywhat do you have open to the web? www or ssh or both08:00
burepewhat do you mean08:01
gtwywhat port numbers are you forwarding08:01
burepe8o08:01
burepe8008:01
gtwydoes your domain registrar support dynamic IPs?08:01
gtwyhow do they point a domain at your IP if it changes08:01
burepeI didn't get that far but I was in the middle of it so I just want to see if it works. If it changes and it doesn't work I will change it08:02
burepeit is still the same right now08:02
burepeI didn't ask but the service is free. Other places cost money right?08:02
gtwyburepe: you can run  your OWN dns if you have a static IP or two08:04
burepebut my question now is how can I get to my comp without the domain name just to see if it is there08:04
gtwydid you get apache up and running yet08:04
binary2k2afraid.og have a good dns service, also works with a dynamic IP http://freedns.afraid.org/menu/08:04
burepeDoes it cost money08:04
burepeyeah got apache08:04
binary2k2only for the pro, but not to use you own domain with dynamic ip08:05
gtwyburepe: is it up and running08:05
binary2k2or static ip, pro is mostly for supporting them08:05
burepeI want to know if it is up and running. It should be08:05
gtwyburepe: what is the IP, the one you are connected from (if that is the case i already have it)08:05
burepeI can get to it from http:/localhost/08:06
burepeyeah08:06
burepeit is the one I am on08:06
gtwyloading in konqueror08:06
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gtwyAn error occurred while loading http://p3186-ipbfp405kyoto.kyoto.ocn.ne.jp:08:06
gtwyare you able to get on it via the web browser at home?08:07
burepethrought that address?08:07
gtwythruogh the network address08:08
gtwythe local address behind the firewall08:08
burepe192.168.24.200 ?08:08
burepethat one08:08
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burepeI get to "Index of /"08:09
burepesame with "127.0.0.1" and "localhost"08:10
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musyais there a gui that does ftp in kubuntu?08:12
musyasort of like filezilla?08:12
JucatoKonqueror08:13
musyait does ftp? how?08:13
burepesearch ftp in synaptic. Is't filezilla there>08:13
Jucatoftp:/08:13
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Jucatolike ftp://foo@foo.com or something like that08:14
Jucatoftp://foo.com08:14
gtwyburepe: using ANOTHER computer other than the actual server08:14
musyaoh never new that...08:14
gtwycan you access the folder08:14
burepeyeah08:14
burepebut it is in network08:14
gtwymusya: FTP is port 21 so you will haev to forward that as well08:14
Jucatothere's also sftp:/ btw08:15
gtwyburepe: if you want to use sftp just enable ssh and forward port08:15
musyai got it open in firefox but how do you get the files? it just shows them to me...08:15
gtwy22, that also lets you scp08:16
gtwybut right now you need to figure out why your router isnt forwarding the ports correctly08:16
burepeso it is the router? I forwarded the ports with the isp's help08:17
burepeCould it be anything else?08:17
gtwyunless im not resolving your address correctly that link didnt work08:17
burepebtw, how do I enable ssh?08:18
gtwymaybe give the link out in the channel and see if anyone else can get to it08:18
musyais there a command to check your system status? like cpu load and such?08:18
burepethe link? My ipaddress?08:18
gtwyburepe: yes08:18
binary2k2musya: top08:18
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Jucatoksysguard if you want a GUI08:19
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burepehttp://122.19.220.186/08:19
gtwywhat is the kubuntu equiv of rc-update ?08:19
burepeCan someone check that?08:19
binary2k2ah, GUIs are for wimps :p08:19
wawanindonesia mana ya08:19
Jucatowhy are you using KDE, then? :P08:19
Rythanburepe: No connection08:20
gtwyburepe: not working08:20
burepehmm08:20
binary2k2because KDE is Kool :D08:20
gtwyyou could always set it as the DMZ and then just set up iptables08:20
JucatoKDE is a kool GUI/desktop environment, too :D08:20
burepewhat about http://122.19.220.186:192.168.24.200/08:21
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burepewould that work?08:21
gtwyburepe: that isnt going to work08:21
burepeok :)08:21
gtwyafter the IP comes the port08:21
gtwyif anything it would be http://122.19.220.186:8008:21
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wawanah sepi banget...08:22
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burepeSo this is a portforwarding problem, huh?08:22
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burepe_ So this is a portforwarding problem, huh?08:28
notechsounds like the router may not be port forwarding port 80 to the correct internal ip address08:28
burepe_ok, I will check it. thanks08:29
unix_infidelanyone here using a wacom tablet?08:30
unix_infideli'm basically looking for the most cost effective wacom solution that has the most accuracy and durability.08:31
morticihow do i make all files and subfolders of a dir be owned by a user and group users?08:33
notechwith chown08:34
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morticiso chown <dir> user:group?08:35
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e1mermortici: chown -R user:group <dir>08:36
notechchown -R user:group /directory, assuming you want the directory and everything in it changed08:36
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Admiral_Chicago!depends08:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about depends - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:36
Admiral_Chicago!dependencies08:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dependencies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:37
notech!deps08:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about deps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:37
Jucato:P08:37
notechwas worth a shot, didn't think it'd have anything on such a broad subject08:37
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unix_infidelanyone for my wacom question?08:39
flaccidyeah08:40
flaccidwhat is it08:40
unix_infideli'm basically looking for the most cost effective yet accurate and durable wacom tablet i can find that has decent linux support08:40
unix_infidelflaccid: any ideas?08:40
flaccidoh none at all08:41
unix_infidelright now i'm looking at the wacom graphire08:41
unix_infidelwhich of the above statement about cost effective, durability, linux warrants "none at all"08:42
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alibenhey im a complete noob and just installed kubuntu edgy and i dont understand how to get my nvidia card running08:45
alibenanyone up for helping me or pointing me to a tutorial or something?08:45
Jucato!nvidia08:45
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:45
alibenis it the same with the adept manager as the synaptic?08:47
burepe_How Can I find out my mac address?08:48
unix_infidelifconfig [interface name] 08:49
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mefisto__can anyone tell me how I can change my default CD player from Kaffeine to Amarok?08:50
gtwyhttp://www.geekpatrol.ca/browse/2006/?view&id=1107208:50
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unix_infidelgtwy: why arent you running an smp specific kernel?08:53
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gtwyunix_infidel: ? i downloaded the 64bit CD08:54
unix_infidelgtwy: hard to believe they didnt package multiple kernels.08:55
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unix_infidelcheck the boot instructions to see if they allow you to boot to specific kernels.08:55
gtwywhy which kernel do i want08:55
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gtwyunix_infidel: how would i go about changing that08:57
unix_infidelgtwy: i dont benchmark hardware unless i get paid for it.08:58
unix_infideland i usually only get paid to use the advanced hardware to get work done.08:58
unix_infideli'd guess if you looked at the boot instructions you could specify which kernel to boot to.08:58
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unix_infideleg, something with smp in the line, unless the generic RHEL4 is already compiled against it.08:59
mooreand13213any1 know of a reason y i wouldn't be able to boot into kubuntu off of the cd08:59
mooreand13213?08:59
gtwyunix_infidel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic09:00
mooreand13213its gotta be a video card thing, i can't even boot into safe graphics mode cause all i get is flashing colors09:00
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binary2k2gtwy: afaik the -generic kernel is SMP, do "uname -a"09:01
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gtwyLinux this-is-god 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 15:34:39 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux09:01
gtwyseems so09:02
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mooreand13213can somebody help me out please?09:02
gtwymooreand13213: whats wrong09:03
mooreand13213i can't boot into kubuntu off the cd09:03
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mooreand13213all that i get is colored squares09:03
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gtwynvidia?09:03
mooreand13213yessir09:03
gtwyyeah nvidia is always a pain in the ass09:04
cpk1umm no its not09:04
mooreand13213how do i install it to fix it if i cant boot into it in the first place?09:04
cpk1the alternative cd is non graphical09:04
gtwycpk1: never ut kubuntu on nvidia... on gentoo, nvidia was a pain in the ass09:04
gtwyput09:04
mooreand13213u ever heard of sabayon linux?09:04
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mooreand13213its gentoo based, but it already includes the drivers and everything09:05
gtwynever heard of it09:05
gtwygotta reboot brb09:05
mooreand13213would that be easier for someone first starting out?09:05
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cpk1mooreand13213: what kind of card you have?09:06
notechnvidia works fine on anythingg i've used it on, ati is another story09:06
mooreand13213geforce 680009:06
cpk1most likely its just a small setting you need to change in xorg.conf09:06
mooreand13213but i haven't installed yet, i was trying to install but i can't get into it09:06
cpk1you can choose to go to a command line instead of booting a gui i think09:07
mooreand13213oic09:07
cpk1or you could try going to tty1 after it boots09:07
mooreand13213what is that?09:07
cpk1X11 runs on tty7 and up, the tty's before that are all non graphical tty's09:08
binary2k2can't you just pass "single" to the boot line on the cd?09:08
mooreand13213ive never used linux before, so i have no clue09:08
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cpk1if you press ctrl alt f1 it will go to tty109:09
mooreand13213ok09:09
binary2k2mooreand13213: if you've never used linux before, i'd say use it in vmware on windows first for a while, it will take some time to adjust09:10
cpk1he can just dual boot09:10
mooreand13213i have a second hard drive so i wont screw anything up09:10
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cpk1however i think the best way to learn is by getting rid of windows which forces you to learn and fix your problems09:10
binary2k2vmware is what I normaly recomend at first, then dual boot, just to get the feel of it09:10
mooreand13213makes sense09:10
mooreand13213vmware free?09:11
x_orI need to upgrade from Badger to Eft.  Can I do this in one swoop, or do I need to update to Dapper first, and then go to Eft?09:11
cpk1!upgrade09:11
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)09:11
cpk1and no you cant do it in one swoop =\09:11
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binary2k2yeah, the vmware-player is, and so is the rest of vmware, you just get a new license every month09:11
mooreand13213alright, i might give that a try then09:12
mooreand13213cause i want to try out this sabayon distro too to see which i prefer09:12
cpk1also the ubuntu live cd seems to be better than the kubuntu one09:12
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binary2k2it'll let you get a feel for kubuntu, then when you dual boot, you won't be so tempted to just reboot back in to windows09:12
mooreand13213ya09:12
mooreand13213are gentoo based distros harder for beginners to learn, or just different?09:13
cpk1if this isnt a production machine and you can afford to have reduced productivity for a week or so I say go head first =P09:13
binary2k2short answer, yes09:13
reldruhmooreand13213:  definitely harder, I just tried it and now I'm back with Kubuntu09:13
mooreand13213what is different?09:13
cpk1although with emerge or whatever it isnt supposed to be as bad09:14
mefisto__can anyone tell me how I can change my default CD player from Kaffeine to Amarok?09:14
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binary2k2mefisto__: when you put in a CD, click on the configure button, then change the medium type to "Audio CD", remove kaffine and add amarok09:17
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seven11_anyone knows a good music organizer i would like to print my collection with cover09:18
mefisto__when I put in a cd, it just plays in kaffeine immediately09:18
binary2k2mefisto__: I get a box asking me09:19
mefisto__I used to, but not any more09:19
mefisto__thanks anyway binary2k209:20
cpk1mefisto__: try using kcontrol  and going to kde components then file associations09:20
Admiral_Chicago!sound09:21
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin09:21
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linux_how can I make a script for watching wich port are used on localhost ?09:24
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cntb\o09:26
cntbxkb not switching languages with alt-shift only flag09:27
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cntb!lexmark09:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lexmark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:32
cntb!nvidia09:32
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:32
cntb!printers09:33
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows09:33
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linux_how can I make a script for watching wich port are used on localhost ?09:37
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binary2k2linux_: I've never made a scipt to do that, but I'd guess you'll need to get to know the command netstat09:38
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linux_yes I'm already using that09:39
binary2k2linux_: or just use ksysguard, it can show what ports are open09:41
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linux_hey nice tool, but I have to make it because it is a assingment :)09:43
linux_but thanks any way :)09:43
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grizzlyinstallation gets stuck on "scanning the mirror"09:45
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grizzlyprobably looking for non-existant dhcp broadband which I can't give it, as I have static ip09:45
grizzlysolution?09:45
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binary2k2grizzly: bare with it09:46
grizzlybinary2k2: get lost09:46
Z3dzDeadhi, has anyone had a problem like this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=308917&highlight=bad+interpreter09:47
Z3dzDeadI am getting a bad interpreter error no matter what script I run- either with #!/bin/sh or #!/bin/bash09:48
binary2k2grizzly: yeah, that's the way to get us to help09:48
grizzlynot us but YOU09:48
Z3dzDeadbad time, huh?09:49
binary2k2!patience | grizzly09:49
ubotugrizzly: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines09:49
grizzlybinary2k2: assholes like you are the reason why many ppl keep away from linux , iw onder what you are doing on ubuntu09:49
Z3dzDeadits true grizzly. i've been here for about 2 hours now. and problem's still unsolved. and i've had a lot of help so far. in the mean time, do check out the forums to see if you can find some help.09:50
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grizzly!patience | binary2k209:50
ubotubinary2k2: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines09:50
Z3dzDeadheh.09:50
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binary2k2gotta love that ignore command09:51
grizzlyI am sure all you ignore will be eternally grateful for the ignore command indeed09:53
Z3dzDeadbinary2k2: probably some spoilt brat who's gotten his way with everyone til he came  in here. yeah grizzly. he's ignored you.09:53
binary2k2Z3dzDead: you're probably right, tho I'd like to see how far he'll get in the linux world with ana attitude like that09:54
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eilker!ssl09:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ssl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:55
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alibenive read the page on the wiki and i cant seem to get my nvidia card going...10:01
alibenwhen i run the command in the console it gives an error and says make sure you got the right package for your kernel10:02
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alibenwhich i beleive i did...10:02
alibenany advice?10:02
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binary2k2aliben: which command are you running?10:03
alibenlemme see10:04
alibeni just restarted so i gotta get it back up10:04
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alibensudo nvidia-glx-config enable10:05
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alibenand i get Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel.10:06
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alibenwhich i think i did correctly according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia10:06
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alibenas far as i know10:06
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binary2k2did you install either of nvidia-glx-legacy or nvidia-glx?10:06
alibenyes nvidia-glx10:07
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Jucatodid you install linux-restricted-modules for your kernel?10:07
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alibenyes10:07
Jucatohm... how about the command "sudo nvidia-xconfig"?10:08
alibenyou want to know what that outputs?10:08
Jucatodoes it still give you erros?10:09
alibenlooks like it backed up the file and rewrote it10:09
Jucatoerrors*10:09
alibenno10:09
Jucatoremember the name of the backup file, as you might need it10:09
alibenk10:09
alibenso... should i restart and see if i get the splash screen now?10:10
cntb!deb10:10
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)10:10
Jucatoaliben: just restart X, not the whole computer10:10
alibenright10:10
Jucatogood luck10:10
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cntbwhere in menus is  Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu) ?10:11
alibenbefore i go what was different about the command you gave me10:11
binary2k2cntb: richt click menu10:11
Jucatoaliben: I don't know. that's just the command I use10:11
alibenk10:11
alibenthanks10:11
alibenbrb10:11
fekmoin10:12
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alibenthat seems to have done the trick!10:13
alibenthanks a lot10:13
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Jucatook10:15
Jucato:)10:15
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||arifaXghamachi is not running under edgy (kde) seems to be some gtk problem. any ideas or similar problem?10:20
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Admiral_Chicagocan someone help me with this: I want to add a taskbar to my main panel10:43
fannagogannait does not appear to be too difficult10:46
Admiral_Chicagoalright that failed miserably10:47
Admiral_Chicagoway to go KDE10:47
fannagogannayou right click on the panel, and then choose "Add Applet to Panel"10:47
fannagogannadid you try this?10:47
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Pr0bi0tic0hey guys10:47
fannagogannaand then choose the taskbar applet10:48
apokryphoshi10:48
Admiral_Chicagofannagoganna: thanks10:48
Admiral_Chicagoarg beryl is making upset :P10:49
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Admiral_Chicagonow i can't move the clock or the taskbar...10:50
Pr0bi0tic0yesterday i had full upgraded my kubuntu and somewhere in instalation, it occours an error. but kubuntu was ok and i could stay work on it... today, when i start kubuntu, a black screen appears.. can anyone help me?10:50
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ehirdhow do you remount / again? i forgot :/10:52
Pr0bi0tic0how can i do it?10:52
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Admiral_Chicagomuch mennel10:53
Admiral_ChicagoPr0bi0tic0: when you log in to a session or can you log in at all10:53
Admiral_Chicagowhat command can i use to change what sound server the system uses10:54
Admiral_Chicagoand i don't mean in the system settings10:54
Admiral_Chicagocrimsun: can you help for a sec?10:54
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Pr0bi0tic0i cant log in.... kubuntu guide appears and then a black screen with _ ...10:55
crimsunAdmiral_Chicago: ?10:55
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ehirdno-one?10:55
Admiral_Chicagocrimsun: i did dpkg-reconfigure -a and sowher in there it asked me if i wanted to use ALSA or OSS10:56
Admiral_Chicagoand my ALSA configuration is borked and I just want to use OSS10:56
binary2k2ehird: sudo mount /dev/hda? -o remount  i think10:56
Admiral_Chicagoany  help10:56
crimsunAdmiral_Chicago: why is your alsa config borked?10:56
Admiral_Chicagoehird: can you be more specific about what you are trying to do10:56
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crimsunAdmiral_Chicago: and you can't use oss/free unless you compile your own kernel; we don't even enable those in the kernel config10:57
Admiral_Chicagobecause it recognizes my card but won't play anything. i tried the walkthroughs for help but that didn't fix anything10:57
ehirdAdmiral_Chicago: same thing i did yesterday :p10:57
Pr0bi0tic0can anyone help me?10:57
crimsunAdmiral_Chicago: which audio chipset is it?10:57
ehirdbinary2k2: thanks, worked :)10:58
binary2k2ehird: :)10:58
Admiral_Chicagosnd-intel0x8 iirc. might be snd-intel8x010:58
binary2k2Pr0bi0tic0: have you tried "sudo dpkg --configure -a" or "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"10:59
Pr0bi0tic0i cant log in..10:59
binary2k2Pr0bi0tic0: press ctrl-alt-f1 to got to a console10:59
Pr0bi0tic0ok i will try that11:00
Pr0bi0tic0thks11:00
crimsunAdmiral_Chicago: snd-intel8x0 works fine. Are you _positive_ it uses snd-intel8x0?11:00
binary2k2Pr0bi0tic0: or boot in to recovery/single-user mode11:00
Admiral_Chicago00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) A  C'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)11:00
Admiral_Chicagofrom when i run lspci -v11:00
crimsunAdmiral_Chicago: and ``amixer''?11:00
Pr0bi0tic0brb11:01
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Admiral_Chicagoi get a lot of output, am i supposed to look for something in particular?11:02
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crimsunAdmiral_Chicago: you're supposed to pastebin it so I can look at it11:04
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crimsunseriously, I don't have much time11:04
Admiral_Chicagoah okay11:04
Admiral_Chicagohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35550/11:05
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chxHow can I assign a key to switch keyboard layouts?11:05
Admiral_Chicagocrimsun: if you have to run, go ahead. just ping me in #ubuntustudio when you have time11:05
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Pr0bi0tic0sudo dpkg -reconfigure kdm didn't work.... : "Screen init failed /etc/mdadm/mdadm conf: No such file or directory"11:07
chxmmm i typed kcontrol there I found keyboard shortcuts and I am set.11:07
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Pr0bi0tic0and i cant write anything in command line11:07
crimsunAdmiral_Chicago: argh, well no wonder, they're muted11:07
Admiral_Chicagoalsamixer tells me they aren't...11:07
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crimsunAdmiral_Chicago: and you only have 1 sound card, correct?11:08
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crimsun(just the onboard)11:08
Admiral_Chicagoyes11:08
crimsungood11:08
Admiral_Chicagono way if this work i'll be most upset11:08
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Pr0bi0tic0can anyone help me, plz?11:09
Admiral_Chicagodo you suggest I use alsa system wide (i.e. for amarok as well)11:09
crimsunamixer set 'Master' on && amixer set 'PCM' on && amixer set 'Surround' on && amixer set 'Center' on && amixer set 'IEC958' off && amixer set 'IEC958 Capture Monitor' off11:09
crimsunthen test it with: ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav''11:10
Admiral_ChicagoPr0bi0tic0: try sudo aptitude purge kdm && sudo apt-get install kdm11:10
Pr0bi0tic0but i cant write anything11:11
Admiral_ChicagoPr0bi0tic0: oh that is right, try a recovery mode kernel11:11
Admiral_Chicagocrimsun: perfect11:11
Pr0bi0tic0ty11:11
Pr0bi0tic0what do u thing happened?11:12
Admiral_Chicagothat was so frustrating, do you think I have to do that everytime I boot?11:12
crimsunAdmiral_Chicago: no11:12
Admiral_ChicagoPr0bi0tic0: maybe an unmet dependency11:12
Admiral_Chicagocrimsun: thanks again11:12
Pr0bi0tic0thks11:13
Pr0bi0tic0i'll try that11:13
Admiral_Chicagow00t! flash works as well!11:13
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luishola11:18
Pr0bi0tic0Admiral_Chicago it didnt work11:19
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luisque tal11:19
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Pr0bi0tic0in recovery kernel mode, appears the same error and say: "Begin root ..."11:19
Pr0bi0tic0and i cant write anything11:19
Admiral_ChicagoPr0bi0tic0: wow that is really strange, so there is something wrong with your actual boot sequence11:21
Pr0bi0tic0so... am i fuc**?11:21
Admiral_Chicagodid you check the CD before you installed?11:22
Pr0bi0tic0i suppose the cause are in bad instalation of upgrade11:22
Pr0bi0tic0?11:22
Pr0bi0tic0my kubuntu was working11:23
Admiral_ChicagoPr0bi0tic0: what did you update to / from ?11:23
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Pr0bi0tic0but yesterday i've done full upgrade with apk11:23
cntb!xkb11:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xkb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:23
cntbanybody expert in alt-shift keyboard language switching ?11:23
Pr0bi0tic0i've just click on Full upgrade button11:24
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Admiral_Chicagocntb: you might mean kxkb?11:25
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Admiral_Chicagocntb: try the applet keyboard status applet11:26
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Pr0bi0tic0...11:26
aileanRiddell, what i was asking before :)11:26
Lothar|ZZZin kubuntu... does the cd get auto mounted or do i have to mount it my self11:27
Riddellailean: I did my LPI stuff with a company called Net Resources in Edinburgh11:27
Riddellat the time they were the only people doing it in Scotland, and I don't think that's changed11:27
aileanRiddell, was that remote or did you turn up to a college?11:27
Pr0bi0tic0what can i do?11:27
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aileanRiddell, ok, well if i don't have a choice, i don't have a choice :)11:28
Riddellailean: I just did the exam with them, I didn't do any studying for it11:28
aileanRiddell, i'm in hamilton, so it's a bit of a journey to ed11:28
aileanRiddell, well i can manage a day or two :)11:28
Riddellpeople in #scotlug might be able to tell you more about west coast failities11:28
aileanRiddell, i need to study for it . . . but i don't know where to start11:28
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Riddellthere's a couple books available for studying it11:29
Riddellother than that I'm not sure11:29
Pr0bi0tic0well.. i'm from portugal, i need to study for C programming and my sob kubuntu dont let me!11:29
Pr0bi0tic0lol11:29
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RiddellPr0bi0tic0: your what won't let you?11:30
Pr0bi0tic0son of a b**** kubuntu =P11:30
aileanRiddell, any recommendation?11:30
aileanPr0bi0tic0, kubuntu will let you program in C :)11:30
megapigI can't set my screen resolution to 1280*800. Can anyone help me?11:30
Admiral_Chicagoailean: no his install is borked11:31
Admiral_Chicago!res | megapig11:31
ubotumegapig: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:31
aileanahh11:31
Pr0bi0tic0yeah i know ailean but i cant put it work11:31
aileansorry Pr0bi0tic0 i'm assuming things i shouldn't be11:31
Pr0bi0tic0no prob11:32
Admiral_Chicagoailean: you know the saying11:32
Admiral_ChicagoPr0bi0tic0: i'm sorry i don't think i can be of any more assistance. :\11:32
Pr0bi0tic0i'm just stressed because i dont know what to do! =S11:32
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aileanAdmiral_Chicago, i know :)11:32
Pr0bi0tic0i'm a completly noob of kubuntu11:32
RiddellPr0bi0tic0: what are you trying to do and what's the problem?11:32
Pr0bi0tic0thks Admiral_Chicago ;)11:32
Pr0bi0tic0no prob11:32
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Pr0bi0tic0yesterday i go to apk and i just click on full upgrade button11:33
Pr0bi0tic0but there occured an error in installation11:33
Riddellailean: I don't have any book recommendation I'm afraid, I never used any11:33
Pr0bi0tic0installation aborted but i could continue my work11:34
Pr0bi0tic0then i turn of computer and everything was all right11:34
Pr0bi0tic0tday when i start kubuntu11:34
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Pr0bi0tic0i just cant11:34
Pr0bi0tic0"Screen init failed"11:34
Admiral_Chicagoah it can't start the screen, it can't initialize the screen11:35
Pr0bi0tic0and i cant open console to write a command11:35
aileanRiddell, thanks :)11:35
Admiral_Chicagonot sure how to fix it but it's what happened11:35
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Pr0bi0tic0sorry my english =P11:35
aileanPr0bi0tic0, your english is almost perfect . . .11:36
Admiral_Chicagoyea it is very good11:36
Admiral_Chicagoyou might want to try the ubuntu portugal channel, they might be of better assistance11:36
Admiral_Chicago!pr11:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:36
Admiral_Chicago!pt11:36
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.11:36
Admiral_Chicagosorry11:36
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Pr0bi0tic0thks Admiral_Chicago and ailean.. but it's rare talk in english11:38
Pr0bi0tic0=P11:38
ailean*strange11:38
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aileanPr0bi0tic0, i speak spanish if you'd prefer to speak that, but i don't speak portuguese11:38
Pr0bi0tic0nooooooooo11:39
Pr0bi0tic0spanish no!11:39
Pr0bi0tic0lool11:39
Pr0bi0tic0=P11:39
Pr0bi0tic0i prefer english11:39
Pr0bi0tic0whatever11:39
Pr0bi0tic0thks for the help11:39
aileanlol11:39
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Pr0bi0tic0and11:39
Pr0bi0tic0have a nice day11:39
Pr0bi0tic0oh i forgot!11:40
Pr0bi0tic0Benfica allez11:40
Pr0bi0tic0!!11:40
Pr0bi0tic0eheh xD11:40
aileanbom dia11:40
Pr0bi0tic0Obrigado11:40
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Teejay__is there a program already installed on kubuntu which is similar to gimp?11:50
RiddellTeejay__: krita11:50
Teejay__thanks11:51
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megapighow do I install the "855resolution" file?11:53
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jessyhi all, I've installed the nvidia driver, it works perfectly, but in the Monitor&display KDE settings it still refers the vesa driver, how can I fix that ?11:57
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jessythe problem being that I cannot change resolution or frequency because it things I'm on a vesa driver11:59
koliuhi,everytime i compile driver for usb i get: no directory "build" in /lib/modules......12:00
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koliui installed kernel header but still /build is empty12:00
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flo_Does anyone know what i have to do to get Krdc/Krfp running over the internet ? (Only works within the local net here)12:03
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Admiral_Chicagoanyoni in here a physicist?12:13
Admiral_Chicagoarg this is frustrating12:13
TFCphysicist?12:13
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fannagogannai am, what's the problem?12:14
fannagogannaalthough what help is a physicist with Kubuntu's problems?12:15
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Admiral_Chicagofannagoganna: for real?12:18
fannagogannayup12:18
Admiral_Chicagoi'm doing a piece of homework12:18
fannagogannawhat seems to be the problem?12:18
fannagogannalet's do this privately12:18
Admiral_ChicagoPM?12:18
Admiral_Chicagokk12:18
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Admiral_Chicagokubunt and physics are very closely related12:23
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lenscapeis there a flavour of *ubuntu for servers - without any X/KDE/Gnome gui stuff?12:25
apokryphoslenscape: yes, see the download page12:26
apokryphosor the main ubuntu.com webpage12:26
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lenscapewhy has ubuntu messed with the 'back' key in Firefox?12:27
lenscapewhat an irritation!12:27
lenscapeapokryphos: thanks. Looking now12:28
apokryphosthey haven't, Firefox did12:28
apokryphosa change in 2.012:28
lenscapereally? How dumb12:28
Jucatoo.O12:28
apokryphosthey changed quite a few default keybindings, yeah12:28
lenscapeis there an 'undo dumb changes' option?12:28
apokryphosyou'd have to manually set them, I guess12:29
lenscapeapokryphos: any idea where?12:30
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apokryphosprobably in their about:config or something12:31
apokryphosdon't really use ff12:32
arafat!mac12:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:32
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lenscapeapokryphos: Hmm. Looking there now12:32
apokryphosif not ask goodl12:36
apokryphoserrr, or google, even12:36
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: still around?12:39
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darmayasadear All, could some help me.. i have been installing the new Kubuntu 6.10, and kxdocker app, but the application did not running ...12:47
Admiral_Chicagois it an applet?12:47
darmayasayes12:47
darmayasaon first installation the kxdocker was runing well, but now .. is not running12:48
darmayasasorry i'm a newbe in Linux12:48
Admiral_Chicagodarmayasa: did you add the applet to the panel?12:50
darmayasayes already12:50
Admiral_Chicagohmm, try this, open up a konsole and try sudo dpkg-reconfigure kxdocker12:52
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gnomefreaki filied a bug on that a while ago12:53
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darmayasaadmiral_chicago: i'm doing just like you said "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kxdocker", but the applet just spining ..12:55
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Admiral_Chicagodarmayasa: accoding to gnomefreak it is a bug...12:56
Admiral_Chicago:\12:56
gnomefreakits been a bug since dapper iirc12:56
darmayasaso, what can i do?12:56
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homerhi, is there a place on ubuntu like in xp "my computer", were all the harddisks are listed?12:58
homerand partitions12:58
Riddellhomer: ubuntu or kubuntu?12:59
homerkubuntu01:00
Riddellhomer: System Menu (computer icon on the panel, bottom left) -> Storage Media01:00
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(homer/#kubuntu) i installed kbuntu on hda, and now i added another hd (with ntfs),to test if i can read and so on,could idamage my second hd now?01:08
binary2k2homer: by drfault linux won't try to write to ntfs, but it can read from it01:09
homerheard that , but now i have to find the harddisk01:09
Phlegyasoh since that's the topic ... maybe we could learn how to make linux write on ntfs? :)01:09
||arifaXhomer: ntfs partitions get mounted read only by default so you should not be able to damage it. only thing to remember, don't do partitioning stuff with it01:09
binary2k2!ntfs-3g | Phlegyas01:09
ubotuPhlegyas: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)01:09
||arifaXoh double01:10
Phlegyaswow ... thanx binary :) and thank you lil botie :)01:10
homerno, just wont to look01:10
homerwant01:10
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crubeWhen can I see how much free space  have on my HD01:11
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crubewhere*01:11
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Phlegyasgood good ... well if you finish with the HD things i'd like to ask about that audio thing on flash :) thanks :D01:11
binary2k2crube: the command 'df' is what you want01:11
crubeAlrighty thanks01:12
Admiral_Chicagohomer: you can read safely01:12
Admiral_Chicagoi think is your question correctl?01:12
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binary2k2homer: there is a place in system settings to setup partions, it'll be called Disk & Filesystems01:12
homeryeah but first i have to find my hd and partitions01:12
homerok01:12
Admiral_Chicagohomer: do this: fdisk -l will list list your partitons01:13
Admiral_Chicagothen mount them01:13
Admiral_Chicago!mount | homer01:13
ubotuhomer: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks01:13
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Phlegyasquestion. can i pm the bots?01:14
binary2k2yes01:14
Phlegyasthank you :D01:15
gnomefreak!bot01:15
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:15
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Phlegyaswow ... all knowing bot ... i'm amazed ... i have to find how to enable sound for the macromedia flash now ... i'll go browse his brain :P01:15
homerah now i can see them01:16
Phlegyasway to go HOMER :D01:16
homerjust not easy on a new system to find places:)01:16
homerand translate english help to german01:16
binary2k2homer: there is a german kubuntu channel too01:17
homerwhere?01:17
binary2k2!de01:17
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:17
supermegazordsiem wszystkim01:17
homerthx01:17
supermegazordo sory this a not chanel :)01:17
binary2k2:)01:17
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homernow i'm in Disk & Filesystems can i make shortcuts of the partitions to the desktop?01:19
Admiral_Chicagocreate nevw link to device01:19
Admiral_Chicagoright click on the desktop01:19
binary2k2you can, but you need to mount them first01:19
binary2k2or do it Admiral_Chicagos way, that works too :p01:20
homerthx, now i have a shortcut to the ntfs disk01:20
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homerhave to take a break , wife is bitching ;)01:21
nata1oi01:21
binary2k2:p01:22
nata1i just downloaded a .bin file01:22
nata1and so this damn thing opens in kate?01:22
nata1how come?01:22
nata1how come it doesnt open normally and like01:22
nata1installs01:22
binary2k2oi nata1, you need to make it executable01:22
nata1woot01:22
nata1how do i do that?01:22
nata1:x01:22
binary2k2best to run it in konsole too01:22
nata1i can do that01:23
nata1but how do i make it executable?01:23
binary2k2in konsole run: chmod +x file.bin01:23
nata1kik thanks01:23
nata1trying..01:23
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nata1ok01:24
nata1done.01:24
nata1should i just ./run it in konsole from there?01:24
nata1or would it be better to just pwn the thing in X?01:24
binary2k2yeah, if it is installing system wide use sudo, if it nees X it will use it anyway01:24
nata1k01:25
binary2k2just ./file.bin or sudo ./file.bin01:25
nata1is it wise to run sudo first?01:25
binary2k2depends if you are installing system wide or just for you01:25
nata1its java01:25
nata1som im guessing system wide :o01:26
pedrocacomo fao pra ir pro ubuntu br?01:26
binary2k2why not install from ubuntu?01:26
nata1oh01:26
nata1where would i do that?01:26
binary2k2!br | pedroca01:26
ubotupedroca: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.01:26
nata1cuz i'd love to do that!01:26
binary2k2have you enabled multiverse?01:26
Phlegyaswell here's my prob. i found something on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-c268ba69c6b38af1dc31ea09701c7d296cf971c3 about flash audio but i'm most probably doing something wrong. it's not working. could you please try and help ? :)01:27
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binary2k2nata1: do you have multiverse?01:28
nata1dont think so, no01:28
nata1apt-get install multiverse?01:28
binary2k2no01:28
binary2k2!multiverse01:28
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:28
binary2k2the all knowing bot havs given you a link to follow, it will tell you how to enable it01:29
Phlegyashelllo? hehe :) anyone knows how to make flash movies play with sound?01:29
Phlegyasoh i think i found something ...i'll come back later on if that doesnt work either :P thanks anyways01:30
raphinkwhat version of flash do you use Phlegyas?01:30
Phlegyas701:30
binary2k2Phlegyas: there is a troubleshooting section there01:30
raphinkPhlegyas: install flash 901:30
nata1im sorry, bin, but that site didnt really tell me anything01:30
raphinkthat'll be a step forward already01:30
Phlegyasthat's where i was going raphink thanks :D01:30
nata1multiverse01:30
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raphinknp01:30
binary2k2flash9 is in backports now01:30
nata1should i add that to /etc/sources.apt to get access to more packs or something?01:30
raphinkyes nata101:31
binary2k2nata1: yes, exactly01:31
nata1cool01:31
Phlegyasi'll try backports thanks binary01:31
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binary2k2Phlegyas: just enable either dapper-backports or edgy-backports and then update01:32
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Phlegyasthat'll be edgy then. thanks!!!!!!!!!!01:33
binary2k2no problem :)01:33
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bkudriacan anyone help me get korganizer to upload free/busy info?  i want to upload it to a webdav:// url, but korganizer tells me 'a resource could not be created until one or more intermediate collections (folders) have been created".  Which folders do i need to create?  I am not using Kolab...01:39
Phlegyasummm i did add the backports thing and now i'm trying to install flash from Adept but ... is the flash-nonfree the one i'm looking for?01:40
Jucatoflashplugin-nonfree01:40
Phlegyasthat one right? that's the flash 9 right?01:41
Jucatoit's both for flash 7 and 9, depends on the repos you have enabled01:41
Jucatoyou can check its version (Show Details)01:41
Phlegyasoh right sorry then :)01:42
Phlegyasyeah that's the 9.0.21.many numbers version01:42
Jucato9.0.21.78.2ubuntu1~edgy1 001:42
Phlegyascool lets try then01:42
Jucatoyep, that's Flash 9 Beta 201:42
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Phlegyasdamn. it didnt work. there's was a problem commiting the changes or something like that ... grrrrrrrrrrrrrr01:44
Jucato?01:44
Jucatohow are you trying to install it?01:44
Phlegyasadept :)01:45
Phlegyasi just pressed on request install01:45
Phlegyasand apply changes01:45
Phlegyasbut nope.01:45
Jucatohm.. flash right?01:45
Phlegyasyeah01:45
binary2k2Phlegyas: try from konsole01:45
Jucatoinstall it from the command line: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree01:45
Phlegyasok lets try that one :)01:45
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Phlegyaswell actually i got what the problem is ... i used to have it since i first installed kubuntu.01:47
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Phlegyaswhat's this AMAVISD thing?01:47
Admiral_Chicago@now chicago01:47
UbugtuCurrent time in America/Chicago: December 06 2006, 06:47:2601:47
Phlegyasit 's always giving me trouble when installing things :)01:47
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Admiral_Chicagoup all night working on physics test Jucato01:47
Jucatoouch01:47
Phlegyasok sorry for this ... i'm pasting from the console --> Starting amavisd: head: cannot open `/etc/mailname' for reading: No such file or directory01:48
Phlegyas  The value of variable $myhostname is "PortableThrone", but should have been01:48
Phlegyas  a fully qualified domain name; perhaps uname(3) did not provide such.01:48
Phlegyas  You must explicitly assign a FQDN of this host to variable $myhostname01:48
Phlegyas  in amavisd.conf, or fix what uname(3) provides as a host's network name!01:48
Phlegyas(failed).01:48
Jucato!pastebin | Phlegyas01:48
ubotuPhlegyas: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:48
Phlegyasoh really terribly sorry i didnt know that. thanx for the tip01:48
Admiral_Chicagookay shower now so I don't fall asleep at the computer01:48
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Phlegyashave a nice shower Admiral :D01:49
Admiral_Chicagowihch i've only done once before in my life01:49
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:Riddell] : Kubuntu Support Channel | Herd 1 Released | Edgy has Landed http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ | Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage Ubuntu Open Week, Nov 27 - Dec 2 - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
Riddelltopic diff: Herd 1 Released01:49
Jucatoyay! rsync time01:49
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Admiral_ChicagoRiddell: perhaps Feisty Herd 1 Released ?01:49
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:Riddell] : Kubuntu Support Channel | Feisty Herd 1 Released | Edgy has Landed http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ | Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage Ubuntu Open Week, Nov 27 - Dec 2 - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
Phlegyasanyways ... since i did paste all that thing here ... anyone knows whats that this ---> The value of variable $myhostname is "PortableThrone", but should have been01:50
Phlegyas  a fully qualified domain name; perhaps uname(3) did not provide such.  You must explicitly assign a FQDN of this host to variable $myhostname01:50
Admiral_Chicagois open week necessary?01:50
Admiral_Chicagoit happened already :|01:50
Admiral_Chicagooh well i'll bbl01:50
Phlegyastc Admiral.01:50
Admiral_Chicagoi remember when I got on Edgy Knot 1, everything worked but a few bugs01:51
RiddellAdmiral_Chicago: please change01:51
Riddellit01:51
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Admiral_ChicagoKubuntu Support Channel | Feisty Herd 1 Released | Edgy has Landed http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ | Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage01:52
Admiral_Chicagooh right i don't have ops01:52
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Admiral_Chicago/topic Kubuntu Support Channel | Feisty Herd 1 Released | Edgy has Landed http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ | Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage01:54
Admiral_Chicagohmm no luck. oh well01:54
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nata1im trying to install the new NVIDIA drivers, but to do that, i need to kill X.02:00
nata1how do i kill X?02:00
nata1seems like its kinda standard/default and auto-restarts once you close it..02:01
nata1is that the case?02:01
sasha_nata1 stop service kdm/gdm, then ctrl+alt+backspace02:01
binary2k2nata1: other wasy around02:02
binary2k2if you kill kdm, your X server wll go02:02
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binary2k2log out, stop kdm, install drivers, start kdm02:04
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ZeuGiRDoRhello everone02:04
ZeuGiRDoRhow can I manage my zen micro on KDE?02:04
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binary2k2ZeuGiRDoR: have you tried Amarok ?02:05
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ZeuGiRDoRbinary2k2: yes, amarok doesn't support creative zen devices02:05
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nata1great02:08
nata1that was real smart of me02:08
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binary2k2ZeuGiRDoR: what about Banshee?02:08
nata1installing the nvidia drivers02:08
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nata1now x wont even start!02:08
binary2k2yeah, that seems to happen a lot with nvidia drivers02:09
ZeuGiRDoRbinary2k2: i'm using gnomad2 and works fine, but i prefer KDE applications02:09
binary2k2ZeuGiRDoR: take a look at the wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Zen#Other_related_software02:10
ZeuGiRDoRbinary2k2: thanks!02:10
binary2k2:)02:11
ZeuGiRDoRseems that KZenExplorer is exactly what i'm looking for02:12
Admiral_Chicago!update02:13
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)02:13
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Admiral_Chicago!release02:26
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases02:26
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schueler...02:30
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mathieu_is it possible to test herd 1 without the CD? ie. just changing the sources.list edgy=>feisty ?02:40
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Jucatomathieu_: yes, but it's not recommended to do it on your main OS/machine02:41
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mathieu_I know I got a machine for that purpose. it actually makes the transition at job smoother when time comes :)02:41
Admiral_Chicagomathieu_: go nuts then02:42
binary2k2yaeh, upgrading to edgy bit by bit was much easier that full upgrade from dapper02:42
Admiral_Chicagobreezy -- dapper was rock solid for me02:43
gnomefreakmathieu_: keep in mind dbus = broken apt= broken sun-java5-plugin = broken02:43
binary2k2was easy for me too, the edgy upgrade from dapper was hell02:44
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mathieu_woah Ill wait for apt to be fixed then02:44
gnomefreakthere are more things broken but those seem to be the most noticible atm02:45
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Guardianhi02:45
Guardianwhat's the best way to join active directory ??? pam_krb5 ? winbind ?02:45
binary2k2apt wasn't the problem, it was the police chances, with xorg for instance02:46
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gnomefreakbinary2k2: for dapper > edgy was the naming for the X packages02:48
gnomefreakbinary2k2: me and mathieu_ were talking about feisty he wanted to upgrade02:48
KomiaPoikahow can i install xv 3.10a in ubuntu?02:48
Ash-Fox!swf-player02:48
binary2k2that's what i mean, i delt with that months before edgy came out, so i was prepared :p02:48
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ubotuswf-player: Mozilla plugin for SWF files (Macromedia Flash). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.6-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 188 kB02:48
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binary2k2gnomefreak: i'm goning to upgrade to feisty fot that reson, you find the problrms sooner, plus i'm a bleeding edgy type of guy :p02:50
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DankerHi02:51
DankerCan anyone say how to use bluetooth on kubuntu?02:52
DankerHow to turn it on?02:52
Admiral_Chicago!bluetooth02:53
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup02:53
Admiral_Chicagothat might be a good place to start02:53
DankerI tried echo 1 > /proc/acpi/asus/bled    but it doesn't work...02:53
Dankerthanks02:53
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ehirdyou people just can't take a break from releasing can you02:56
ehirdwith that said, how do i upgrade02:56
binary2k2here come the bot02:57
binary2k2!upgrade02:57
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)02:57
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ehirdow02:57
ehirdi'm on edgy.02:57
ehirdI was referring to "Feisty Herd 1 Released "02:57
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binary2k2the Feisty Herd 1 Released is a pre-release02:57
Admiral_Chicagoehird: Feisty is development02:57
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ehirdyes.02:58
binary2k2like when edgy was knot-102:58
ehirdi want to break my machine! i mean upgrade02:58
Admiral_Chicago6 months release cycles is great02:58
mathieu_the safest path probably remains apt-get install vmware-player :)02:59
binary2k2tho the last one was only 4 months, and i kinda liked it :p02:59
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ehirdmathieu_: safe? what is this safe you mean? if i want a unix based system that >doesn't< crap out and require me to hex edit the kernel, i could use mac os x! :P03:00
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binary2k2to be fair tho, I have fount the development versions of kubuntu to be surprisingly stable03:01
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_kuja_In my experience they were fairly broken ....03:01
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mathieu_well broken apt scares me03:03
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mathieu_that and broken networking...03:03
binary2k2learn the power behind apt, dpkg03:03
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ehirdso... nobody? <.<03:07
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binary2k2huh, what?03:08
mathieu_im pretty sure sudo sed -e s/\sedgy/ feisty/g -i /etc/apt/sources.list would work03:09
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binary2k2oh, updateing :p03:09
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gnomefreakmathieu_: apt should be fixed soon. the fix was uploaded first thing this morning so we should see it by end of day i would hope but theres no telling ive been waiting for a few weeks on a smart fix. but there is a work around on the apt and one of the dbus issues03:09
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binary2k2yeah, change sources.list, as there is no official way for now03:10
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mathieu_gnomefreak: ok. but im creating my vmware image right now so I know what surprises lie ahead first... this is a dev setup, but i still dont want to lose it right now :) Ill upgrade my main disk once i figured out how to fix everything in my virtual img...03:11
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gnomefreakmathieu_: ok i stay fairly up-to-date with bugs. so feelfree to ping me in #ubuntu+1 if you need something. i will be around later today i need to get back to sleep soon i was up way too early03:12
mathieu_cool ty.03:13
gnomefreakyw03:15
gnomefreaklike konqueror has some KHTML issues03:15
homerhi, is it normal that kubuntu uses about 550mb ram?03:15
gnomefreak:(03:15
ehirdprobably not03:16
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ehirdoh03:16
ehirdyes it is03:16
binary2k2homer: most of that will be the cache03:16
ehirdit's the cache03:16
ehirddon't worry03:16
homerwhich color is the cache?03:16
homerthe yellow one03:16
homer?03:16
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binary2k2on mine its dark green03:17
binary2k2but i may have changes the colors :p03:17
homeris there a way to stop/uninstall some features which i dont need in a safe way?03:18
homerlike bluetooth programs03:18
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phlasphy_hey all03:19
phlasphy_can i hang here if i dont use kubuntu03:19
binary2k2ahh, that can be an issue, you may end up removing kubuntu-desktop, which is safe, but you need it when you want to upgrade, so will just end up having to reinstall them03:19
mathieu_but you could just disable the services03:20
homerhmm..seems not to be a noobquest?03:20
binary2k2yeah, you can disable services in the service manager03:21
mathieu_i dont remember the name of the app to do this03:21
mathieu_ksysinit?03:21
mathieu_well its part of kcontrol anyway I believe03:21
binary2k2ksysv03:21
binary2k2and yes, it's in kcontrol and system settings03:22
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mathieu_wow it doesnt look anything like before heh03:22
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JucatoSystem Settings -> Advanced -> System Services?03:24
binary2k2yeah03:24
homeri think i found it,sounds different in my language03:24
fabobetter avoid ksysv and use guidance module03:25
binary2k2it's also different in dapper and edgy03:25
homerso, could i deactivate bluetooth?03:25
homerwithout risk for the rest03:25
binary2k2it just won't start at boot, it's sfae03:26
binary2k2*safe03:26
mathieu_basically its the same as sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth stop03:26
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binary2k2yep, except more perminant :p03:26
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homerits: start during boot:yes03:26
binary2k2so you can un check that, and it wont03:27
homernow i stopped it,but how to configure that it dont start again on next reboot03:27
homerok, found a checkbox03:28
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homerlinux is confusing, on win i have about 20 processe, here its like 50?03:29
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homerand i have no idea what they are doin03:29
binary2k2you wish you had only 20 processes on win, xp uses atleast 40 normaly03:30
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binary2k2it just won't show you them all03:30
homerdont know, but killed almost all which isnt necessary03:31
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homerok,next experience. tryin to burn a dvd03:34
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binary2k2ahh, that's easy with k3b03:34
homerhpoefully03:34
binary2k2well, depends actually on what you want to burn03:35
homerhmm. maximum speed 4x ?03:35
binary2k2i mean what type of media, video/data03:35
homerok,its a /rw,   im tryin to burn avi s03:36
homerfrom an ntfs partition03:36
homeris this a problem?03:36
binary2k2as a data diskm or a DVD video for DVD player?03:36
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homeras data dvd, my player should play it03:36
homerit does at least under xp03:37
binary2k2well then it's easy :p03:37
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binary2k2burning data disks under k3b is very nice, simple yet powerful03:38
Admiral_Chicago@now03:38
UbugtuCurrent time in Etc/UTC: December 06 2006, 14:38:3103:38
Admiral_Chicago@now chicago03:38
UbugtuCurrent time in America/Chicago: December 06 2006, 08:38:3503:38
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velle_msg BearPerson hey, are you there?03:41
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velle_oops03:41
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homerok,now i have to wait 15 minutes03:42
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homeranyone have wine installed and know "screamer radio" ?03:44
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velle_i think there is a command for getting a list of all available online freenode staffers, anyone remembers it?03:46
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binary2k2velle_: /stats p03:47
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binary2k2velle_: or /who freenode/staff/*03:47
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velle_binary2k2: thanks03:48
binary2k2np03:48
BluesKajhowdy all ! :)03:48
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binary2k2howdy back03:49
noob2how do i reconfigure my pppoeconf settings?03:49
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noob2i want to change my username and pwd since i am at a diff location but it says "timeout" something something PADO03:49
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noob2so believe it or not i am still connected to the internet using the old account!03:50
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noob2pls can someone help03:50
Lynourenoob2: with what03:50
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danny500I use Open Office Word and my spell check isn't working03:50
BluesKajfor some reason thunderbird is sending my emails the are written in a different email account with the Home email account address ...how do I change this so the ppl who are filtering unknown addys get my email03:51
noob2i want to change my username and pwd since i am at a diff location but it says "timeout" something something PADO03:51
noob2for pppoeconf03:51
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xwolf-!sources03:52
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:52
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noob2Lynoure: hi can you help my modify my username and pwd for pppoeonf?03:53
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binary2k2BluesKaj: Edit -> Account Settings -> choose you account and change the SMTP server03:53
binary2k2BluesKaj: (near bottom of sttings)03:54
Lynourenoob2: sorry, I have not ever change a pppeo password.03:54
danny500Jucato: you here?03:54
Jucatodanny500: yes03:54
danny500How do I fix my spell check on my Open Office?03:55
danny500I need english03:55
noob2Lynoure: ok, do you know what this error message means? Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access Concentrator of your provider did not respond. 03:55
noob2Can someone help me?03:56
Lynourenoob2: "timeout something something PADO"? Would help if you quoted it as it actually is...03:56
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noob2Lynoure: ok got it: "Timeout waiting for PADO packets"03:57
BluesKajbinary2k2, i have the settings different for botyh accounts but if I click on an email address in the the blueskaj message text page the sender address reverts my home account address.03:58
BluesKajerr, reverts to my home account address03:58
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binary2k2BluesKaj: have you tried changing the default SMTP server?04:00
BluesKajbinary2k2, so the messages i have sent to ppl who have only my blueskaj acct in their adress books are seeing my home account as  the sender04:00
Lynourenoob2: According to some sources log file message Timeout waiting for PADO packets indicates a problem with the physical link04:00
BluesKajbinary2k2, changing default SMTP server to ?04:01
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noob2Lynoure: then how am i connected now?04:01
Lynourenoob2: You are in a different location than usually? Is it supposed to work from there? What does you broadband provider say?04:01
noob2yes i am in a different location and a different dsl account - but i think my pc is connecting with the old account - dsl provider doesnt support linux04:02
binary2k2BluesKaj: if you have more than one, you can set a defult, maybe that will change it04:02
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BluesKajI'm using SMTP1.'myisp'.ca ... binary2k204:02
Lynourenoob2: You _are_ paying them, so they should give you at least some support. (Sorry, I hate spending free time answering  problems that there is someone paid to answer already)04:03
noob2Lynoure: they dont support linux04:03
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Lynourenoob2: And you are still paying them? Consider changing if you can.04:04
BluesKajwell binary2k2 , I'll just have to change the adress when i click on a addy04:04
Lynourenoob2: This might help: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-March/070751.html04:04
binary2k2BluesKaj: I just tried it, as i have more than 1 setup, and it still default to my default (local) accout04:05
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noob2Lynoure: ok, i will, but if you know what file i should modify please tell me, thanks, i think im running two instances of pppoeconf04:05
binary2k2BluesKaj: maybe file a frature request on thunderbird04:06
pedrocacomo fao pra ir pro ubuntu br?04:06
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binary2k2!br | pedroca04:07
ubotupedroca: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.04:07
Lynourenoob2: Nope. Does  man pppoeconf tell you where it keeps it's configurations?04:07
BluesKajbinary2k2, I just realized there's an options box in the sender's email address above the recipient and i have the option to change sender addresses there.04:07
BluesKaj :) DOH!04:07
homerif i want to install "lame" en/decoder which packet do i have to choose?04:07
binary2k2BluesKaj: yeah, I thaught you knew that, :p04:07
BluesKajnope, but i do now04:07
binary2k2BluesKaj: but you still have to choose it every time, just don't forget04:07
neosoftalguien que hable espaol y ayude a un pobre aprendis04:08
neosoftno se instalar el wine04:08
neosoften kubuntu04:08
BluesKajyeah , I'm old and i do forget sometimes , binary2k204:08
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||arifaXhomer: I think it is liblame or maybe if you install lame it gets installed by default04:08
noob2Lynoure: nope im trying to read the link tht u gave04:08
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homerok, then the just "lame" packet?04:09
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||arifaXhomer: think so.04:09
BluesKajbinary2k2, but i still think the address should be the one that the received  text resides in04:10
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BluesKajoh well , it's good learn new things everyday , even lil bothersome things like that :)04:11
binary2k2I agree BluesKaj, I have sent a few emails then realised that it was sent from the wrong adress because I forgot to change it :p04:11
BluesKajbinary2k2,  :)04:11
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Lynourenoob2: There is usually more people on #ubuntu, perhaps you'd find help there.04:12
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BluesKajI'm still peeved at mythtv's crappy frontend/backend setup guide .... no mouse access sucks !.. and the nomenclature assumes yer a TV network control room technician ...what gives ?04:13
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metro-polisiecan some one PLZ help me i have no domain names and can't set them up04:23
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metro-polisiei got google's ip and shearched freenode's ip just the get here04:24
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metro-polisiei am not 100% sure what the "router's" ip is but i think its 196.25.255.3 but i can't get it to add in the system-settings04:26
metro-polisiei can add 196.25.254.3 though04:26
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klerfaytdoes ubuntu edgy default kernel include usb mouse polling patch?04:32
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noob2Lynoure: thanks man the link you posted had some interesting stuff in it that helped me fix this04:43
Lynourenoob2: you are welcome but actually I'm not a man, I'm a woman.04:44
Lynoure:)04:44
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noob2oh sorry, im not familiar with french names04:45
ZmAYhello, how can i install .bin package04:45
noob2:)04:45
Lynourenoob2: it's not a French name, it's my name :) noob2 could be either, too04:45
noob2lol04:45
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noob2noob2 is a guy :)04:47
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KomiaPoikahow can i install xv 3.10a in ubuntu?04:52
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ehirdi read this:04:52
ehirdIs Automatix2 safe ? Folks in #ubuntu on IRC keep telling me it isn't04:52
ehird Yes it is perfectly safe. Thousands of users worldwide use Automatix2 every day without any issues.04:52
ehirdand expected it to be followed by:04:52
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ehirdHowever, millions more use it with critical issues.04:52
ehird:D04:52
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fabiohi to all04:53
fabiosomeone speack italian?04:53
binary2k2ubuntu don't recomand automatix04:53
binary2k2infact:04:54
Jucato!it04:54
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!04:54
binary2k2!automatix04:54
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe04:54
binary2k2!WorksForMe04:54
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.04:54
fabioi have a notebook with intel core 2 duo, and i have installed kubuntu04:54
fabio5.10 and now i'm upgrading04:55
fabioto edgy04:55
ehirdbinary2k2: i know04:55
ehirdbinary2k2: i was echoing that myself04:55
binary2k2fabio:  bupgrade to dapper first04:55
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binary2k2*upgrade04:55
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binary2k2ehird: yes, I saw that, I just wanted to make it clear04:56
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noob2bon giorno04:56
binary2k2ehird: you spend hours trying to rescue a system automatix has hosed, and you get a strng opinion about it :p04:56
fabiobinary2k2...ehm...i'm already upgrading :04:56
TWSis there any beryl repositories working 4 amd64?04:56
ehirdbinary2k2: :P04:57
fabioit's wrong?04:57
binary2k2fabio: you should have gone breezy(5.10) -> Dapper(6.06) -> Edgy(6.10)04:57
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noob2Lynoure: do you still have that link you sent me? i kind of lost it when i dced04:58
binary2k2noob2: this one? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-March/070751.html04:59
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noob2yep thats it! thanks a lot :)05:00
binary2k2large buffers pay :p05:00
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slow-motionhallo05:00
noob2hallo05:01
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blindhow do i remove an aplication that was installed with $ make install????05:07
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jeff_Hi all.  I have an interesting problem with a Dell port replicator on the M90 portable desktop.  X will only use the VGA cable to my monitor if I am docked.05:07
jeff_If I simply plug the DVI cable into the laptop it works fine, of course, but plugging in everything manually is kind of a pain05:08
jeff_This is true while using the monitor standalone and while using it as a second screen05:08
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jeff_Booting into Windows, I can use the port replicator to attach via DVI without a flaw05:09
jeff_Any ideas?05:09
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TheGateKeeper_blind, well if it doesn't have an uninstaller & you didn't use check install, my guess is that you are stuffed05:10
andreaciao05:11
andreahello05:11
TheGateKeeper_checkinstall*05:11
jeff_blind, if you have the log, then you can use sed and awk to turn the cp statements into RM statements, but this won't guarantee that you don't break something05:11
jeff_the safer thing is just not to uninstall05:11
BluesKajhmmm, I installed DVR using Synaptic ... won't launch from the commandline or start options ..any ideas ?05:11
cntb!nvidia05:12
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:12
jeff_Oh, and I should have mentioned that for my problem, I am using the nvidia drivers, although I get the same problem without them05:12
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cntb!easyubuntu05:13
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu05:13
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cntbwhere is easyubuntu installed to re-use it?05:13
BluesKaj!DVR05:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about DVR - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:13
blind10x05:14
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cntbhttp://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html how do I re-use easyubuntu ? need for nvidia mx40005:16
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Dr_willischeck the easyubuntu homepage?05:18
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Dr_willisive never needed to use easyubuntu for my nvidia cards05:18
Dr_willis!nvidia05:18
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:18
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Dr_willissetting up the nvidia stuff is about a 4 min job. :) or less.05:18
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TheGateKeeper_cntb, well I would look for the specific pacakages you need & use apt-get05:19
cntbDr_willis, ty but i failed05:19
cntbsince yesterday05:19
Dr_williscntb,  learn, read, try again.05:19
cntbty Dr_willis  again05:19
TheGateKeeper_or in my case don't even bother lol05:19
Dr_willismost likely you are doing somthing trivially wrong.05:20
cntbDr_willis, which is exactly why I am here . precisely05:20
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Dr_willisThen ask for help on that - not 'easyubuntu' which isent officially supported or reccomended.05:20
cntbwhy lol TheGateKeeper_ ? is this a good channel for it ?05:21
JulleDr_willis do you know what can be wrong when i cant change my resolution with the newest nvidia drivers in kubuntu ?05:21
TheGateKeeper_cntb, hmmm you got the wrong end of the stick05:21
Dr_willisJulle,  newest as in ones  just released from nvidia? or the ones from the repos?05:21
cntbI asked how do I re-use easyubuntu cause I know I installed it yesterday05:21
JulleDr_willis downloaded from www.nvidia.com the installer05:22
Julleabout 4 days ago05:22
Dr_willisJulle,  hard to tell. I dont keep up with the 'cutting edge' drivers that way.05:22
cntbpls stop TheGateKeeper_  Iam asking politely and know what Iam asking05:22
TheGateKeeper_cntb, I use nvidia but can't be arsed with the potential problem of setting it up, so I just use the nv driver05:22
cntbOK ok05:22
Dr_williscntb,  you could just to to the easyubuntu page and redownload the thing. its just a little script05:22
JulleDr_willis ok, my xorg looks fine but it only gives me 800x600 i cant understand why its so strange05:22
Dr_willisor LOOK in your dirs and see where it downloaded to05:22
cntbah oK05:22
Dr_williscntb,  so simple and logical eh?05:23
Dr_willisJulle,  you are manually looking at the xorg.conf ? or using the kde control-thing?05:23
cntbsometimes I think Dr_willis  ubuntu is too much dependent on the NET05:23
JulleDr_willis manually05:23
Dr_williscntb,  some times i think users are much too dependent on being 'hand held'05:23
Jullenano /etc/X11/...05:23
TheGateKeeper_linux seems to look better than windows using the nv driver so I couldn't see any point in going any further lol05:23
cntbthere was a network outage from telecom here for more than 3 hours05:24
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JulleDr_willis in KDE system settings for monitor and drivers i can only choose "nv" drivers. but if i look in lsmod nvidia is loaded.05:24
TheGateKeeper_cntb, are you using games?05:24
BluesKajwhat's the problem when an installed program won't launch from the commandline , for example "dvr" ?05:25
Dr_willisJulle,  i bet the wiki pages have some info..   You may be the nvidia setup prog totally tweaked your xorg.conf you got an old one backed up from befor the install.. could try using it instead05:25
cntbbtw do you know how to turn 90 degrees the screen nvidia , I do it when I need to see screen from bed lol05:25
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  thats rather vague. normally they give an error message.05:25
cntbyes TheGateKeeper_ my son needs precisely that05:25
TheGateKeeper_lol05:25
JulleDr_willis ok thx05:25
cntbtuxracer is the test game here05:25
cntbdoes that answer your q TheGateKeeper_  ?05:26
BluesKajDr_willis, bash: dvr: command not found05:26
TheGateKeeper_cntb, yeah :-)05:26
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  and where is this 'dvr' command supposed to come from?05:26
Dr_williseither its not installed, or your path is messed up.. or you are using the wrong command.05:26
Dr_willisnvidia-glx  has some settings/configs for rotation i notice.05:27
cntbI will paste wrong nvidia xorg.conf here shortly05:27
icheynecntb, I think there are instructions for rotation at ubuntuguide.org05:27
Dr_willisoh wait i dont seeit now..05:27
BluesKajDr_willis, it's a program I installed with synaptic ...I figured ir would work from the terminal like others05:27
cntbty very much icheyne  for rotation tip05:28
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  the package name may NOT be the name of the binary05:28
BluesKaji suppose it 's not meant to but how do i use it ?05:28
TheGateKeeper_l8r folks05:28
Dr_willisHmm.. i dont see the rotation stuff in the   nvidia-settings  tool now..05:28
cntbl8r05:28
Dr_willisive seen it mentioned int he nvidia readmens05:28
cntb\o05:28
icheynecntb, :)05:28
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  read the programs docs.. use the package manager to see what files it isntalled where05:28
Dr_willis!info pvr05:28
ubotuPackage pvr does not exist in any distro I know05:28
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  since i have no clue what 'dvr' even is05:29
Dr_willis!info dvr05:29
ubotudvr: Digital Video Recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2-8ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 320 kB, installed size 980 kB (Only available for i386)05:29
Dr_williscould be its used by other tools.05:29
binary2k2would it be /usr/bin/dvr-console05:29
cntbbtw Dr_willis  do >>  sudo apt-cache search nvidia to see other nvidia tool yesterday I tried to ask the difference here05:29
cntbI prepared much faster windows desktops for end users than in linux05:30
BluesKajbinary2k2, nope05:30
cntbmaybe one can see my frustration05:30
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Dr_williscntb,  some of the tools are for the older nvidia cards.. some are for newer05:31
binary2k2BluesKaj: well the dvr package only has 2 files in /usr/bin, dvr-console and dvr-qtgui05:31
cntbhow can one tell Dr_willis  . I am almost sure from !nvidia my card doenot fall into legacy05:32
Dr_williscntb,  if nvidia would let ubuntu/kubuntu include the drivers... we wouldent be having these problems.. you can see our  'frustration'05:32
cntbother PC at lab suited nvidia-glx-legacy05:32
Dr_williscntb,  check the nvidia wiki page. and the nvidia docs I guess.05:32
Dr_willishttp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-a.html05:33
cntbso what sudo apt-get is a trick ? to not include in package ? I dont get it ?05:33
Dr_willisapt-get installs somthing05:33
Dr_willisnot sure what you mean by 'trick'05:33
cntbcheckinn that link . what use ccan I have of it Dr_willis  ?05:33
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Dr_willisif you have some of the older cards - you need the  older legacy drivers,, newre card you can use the newer drivers05:34
Dr_willisgeforce 4 - counts as a 'newer' card05:34
cntbtrick about having restricted without including it Dr_willis . not difficult ;-)05:34
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cntbwait wanna paste things05:35
Dr_willisyou need the 'restricted' modules for your kernel.05:35
BluesKajbinary2k2, i have neither dvr file that you listed :(05:35
Dr_willisthey are not included by default on the cd.05:35
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binary2k2BluesKaj: then you don't have the package installed05:36
BluesKajweird cuz i used Synaptic,05:37
binary2k2BluesKaj: ckeck with dpkg --list|grep dvr05:37
Dr_willisfor edgy,  i think all i needed to do to get nvidia stuff working (the doc seems a little out of date)05:38
Dr_willissudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-commin nvidia-glx05:38
Dr_willisoops spelt it wrong05:38
Dr_willissudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx05:39
BluesKajbinary2k2, :dvr ,3.2-8ubuntu1, Digital Video Recorder05:39
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binary2k2BluesKaj: huh, then it should be installed05:40
BluesKajIt's not listed in Multimedis in the kicker05:41
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Dr_willisi cant seem to find any 'dvr' packages on this system05:41
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Dr_willisthere it is.. :) had to click 'show installable' lol05:42
Dr_willisDVR is a tool to record movies on a computer equipped with a Video4Linux-compatible video capture card.05:42
Dr_willisWebsite: http://dvr.sourceforge.net05:42
binary2k2BluesKaj: running the command directly /usr/bin/dvr-qtgui from the run dialog, if you get it running, you can setup a menu item05:42
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BluesKajDr_willis, I found 2 files in the search option...but they appear to be just text files05:42
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kay!de05:43
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:43
BluesKajthe driver doesn't provide a correct size for memory mapping. DVR tries to correct this error, but some strange things may happend, you are warned.05:44
BluesKajCan't map memory for capture : Invalid argument05:44
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LordOllieanybody else using kubuntu (x86 release) on a Turion 64 x2?05:51
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Dr_willisnot on an x2 LordOllie05:53
Dr_willisbut my x86 kubuntu works on my turion laptop fine.05:53
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TFroghas anyone here installed kubuntu on a purely wireless network where they didn't have a wired connection?05:56
LordOllieDr_willis: it isn't detecting my second processor :(05:57
Dr_willisLordOllie,  how are yuo looking for it? :)05:57
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LordOllieusing the command kinfocenter05:57
Dr_willistry cat /proc/cpuinfo05:58
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LordOllieok, yep... there it is... thanks05:59
BluesKajbinary2k2, this the output when launching /usr/bin/dvr-qtgui from the run dialog :*** WARNING *** : the driver doesn't provide a correct size for memory mapping. DVR tries to correct this error, but some strange things may happen. Can't map memory for capture : Invalid argument05:59
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BluesKajI guess DVR isn't supported by my ATI drivers06:01
binary2k2maybe not06:01
BluesKajanyway..I have snow to push ..BBL06:01
binary2k2:p06:01
LordOllieDVR is not supported by anything06:02
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binary2k2only by a "Video4Linux-compatible video capture card", if they exist06:02
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binary2k2(in the wild)06:03
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Dr_willisBluesKaj,  you have an ATI tv tuner card?06:04
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BluesKajyup tv wonder pro06:05
Dr_willisYou poor guy........06:05
BluesKajhehe06:05
Dr_willisgood luck with getting that thing to do muchof anything in linux06:05
the-ermI don't recommend getting a DVR ... for tv anyways.  They are so flaky.  No you can't use that brand of disk .. just this one.  Why not??  My vcr would take any brand of tape.06:06
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the-ermI had an ati wonder working in linux, but it fired out.06:06
BluesKajxdtv worked for a bit...I have a sat receiver feeding video into the card , not really using ther tuner part of it06:06
Dr_willisthe newest PVR/DVR's ive seen can take most any dvd+-r/rws - depends on the drive.. the newest ones ive seen can even play divx/and other formats as well06:06
Dr_willisTempted to get one for divx playing :)06:07
the-ermI got a crappy el cheapo ilo.06:07
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BluesKajis there a prog that will just record the video and audio at line level ?06:08
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the-ermI will never buy ilo again.  Sometimes you can buy cheap stuff, and it works great.06:08
Dr_willisHen - my ILO is workign good..06:08
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BluesKajwhat's ILO?06:08
Dr_willisthe dvd drive is flakey.. but i got the thing 'hacked' so i can record from VCR to it. and  a few other tweaks.06:09
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  a LOW end brand of PVR/DVR from walmart06:09
the-ermYou must have a DVDR04.06:09
BluesKajhehe06:09
Dr_willisthe-erm,  yep.06:09
BluesKajok06:09
the-ermreally low.06:09
Dr_willismother in law uses it for her soap operas06:09
Dr_willis:)06:09
Dr_willisand to convert vcr tapes to dvd.06:09
BluesKajwell gotta go do my drive...lotsa snaow last nite ..BBL06:09
the-ermI like my PVR from the cable company.06:10
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the-erm2 tuners.06:10
Dr_willisi cant ever find anything on worth watching... much less 2 shows at the same time... :)06:10
the-ermSo you can record 2 tv shows, and watch a pre-recorded one.06:10
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the-erm2 kids *lots* of kids shows.06:11
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Dr_willisHeh...06:11
Dr_willisDora the Exolorer!06:11
the-ermIt's almost like you live here.06:12
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Dr_willisTeach the kids spanish!06:12
the-ermI used to love tellitubbies in the morning after being awake all night, and half comatose.06:12
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the-ermNow it's just a sick joke.06:13
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Dr_willisIt alwas was sick... :)06:13
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tomadoes anyone have time to help me get some sound out of my computer?I have a VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller06:19
the-ermplay with alsamixer06:20
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tomathe-erm: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device06:21
the-ermhmm.06:21
tomathe-erm: via82cxxx is in the lsmod06:22
Admiral_Chicago!fuse06:22
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the-ermls /dev/snd/06:22
tomathe-erm: does not exist here06:22
the-ermhmm ls /dev/dsp06:22
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tomathe-erm: crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 Dec  6 17:33 /dev/dsp06:23
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the-ermok06:23
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the-ermgroups06:23
tomahmpf, you know the answer06:24
the-ermaudio?06:24
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kay!de06:24
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tomanope06:24
dan_bhelp I'm having a prob06:25
dan_bAn error occurred while loading audiocd:/:06:25
dan_bDevice doesn't have read permissions for this account.  Check the read permissions on the device.06:25
the-ermthen add yourself as a member to audio.06:25
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the-ermI think it's sudo kuser06:25
the-ermer kdesu kuser might work better.06:26
dan_bI've changed the permissions on the dev and mount point no joy06:26
Admiral_Chicagoanyone have any luck scanning an ntfs partition for viruses in kubuntu06:26
Admiral_Chicagoi know ntfs sucks and is expiremental whatever06:26
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Admiral_Chicagoi just want to know if I can use like AVG for Linux and save this partition06:27
the-ermMan I'm totally off on this one ... I have my system set up so I can just su and run stuff with no problems.  I don't use the sudo command.06:27
tomathe-erm: does not seem to mae a difference06:27
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the-ermYou might need to restart X ctrl+alt+backspace, at the very least you'll need to close your konsole, and open a new one.06:27
dan_bcan any one help06:27
the-ermthen type  in groups again.06:28
tomathe-erm: hm. okay.06:28
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binary2k2dan_b: what are the permissions on your cd drive?06:28
the-ermFor some strange reason groups is cached ...06:28
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dan_bi've set it to rwx everyone06:29
dan_bchmod 77706:29
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binary2k2dan_b: did you logout/back in after you changed the permissions?06:29
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dan_bknow but re mounted cd rom06:30
tomathe-erm: you rock06:30
dan_bsorry no06:30
llutzchanges in groups always need a re-login to take effect06:30
the-ermdoes it work now toma ?06:30
binary2k2dan_b: you don't mount an audio CD06:30
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dan_bsorry ejected and re inserted06:30
the-ermI am pleased.06:31
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binary2k2dan_b: you still need to logout/back in, for the permissions to take effect06:31
llutzdan_b: are you member of group "cdrom"?06:31
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dan_bthank you I'll give it a try and be back in a min06:32
tomathe-erm: yes, kde startup gave me a nice sound06:32
tomathe-erm: thanks06:32
binary2k2llutz: he went and chmod 777 /dev/cdrom :p06:32
the-ermGood.  I am pleased.06:32
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llutzbinary2k2: stupid solution :)06:33
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the-ermweird 2 group problems in less than 15 min.06:33
binary2k2llutz: i know, it will go back to normal permissions next reboot anyway06:34
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llutzbinary2k2: despite that, it's never a good idea to change a device zo 77706:34
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binary2k2nope :p06:35
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[GuS] Re06:36
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ragplease somebody help me with hplip and multinfunction hp ?06:39
cntbhi tiptip   ?06:39
tiptipsababa06:40
binary2k2!il > cntb06:40
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tiptip:D06:41
cntb NVIDIA06:41
cntbbinary2k2,  ?06:41
burepe_How do I view apache documentation?06:42
cntbbinary2k2, you are being nice right ? tyvm06:42
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binary2k2cntb: #kubuntu is an english language channel, there are local language channels06:43
dan_barghhh still the same prob06:43
dan_bAn error occurred while loading audiocd:/:06:44
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kay#gimp-de06:44
dan_bDevice doesn't have read permissions for this account.  Check the read permissions on the device.06:44
binary2k2dan_b: in konsole do ls -l /dev/hdc (if hdc is your cd drive)06:44
llutzdan_b: "ls -l /dev/<your-cdrom-device>"06:44
binary2k2snap! :p06:44
llutz<- loses06:44
binary2k2:D06:44
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dan_bno its my other cdrom06:46
binary2k2well do that command on whatever device your using06:46
dan_bcheers i'll give it a go06:46
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Admiral_Chicago@now chicago06:48
UbugtuCurrent time in America/Chicago: December 06 2006, 11:48:2706:48
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Dasnipa`@now pakistan06:50
cntb!alternatives06:50
ubotuTo change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.06:50
dan_bstill giving me grief06:50
dan_bi've chowned the drive to me dan, no joy06:51
dan_bbrwxrwxrwx 1 dan cdrom 22, 0 2006-12-06 17:33 /dev/hdc06:51
llutzdan_b: does "id" show you as member of group "cdrom"?06:52
binary2k2dan_b: you shouldn't chown, or chmod it, just make sure you're in cdrom group06:52
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dan_bid 24(cdrom)06:52
llutzGeld genug06:52
llutzups06:52
dan_bI've chowned it back to root06:53
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binary2k2dan_b: what application are you tryng use?06:53
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dan_bto see the files in konqueror06:54
dan_bI can play the tracks in Kaffine06:54
binary2k2will it play in kaffine or anarok?06:54
dan_bwont play in amarok06:54
dan_bwill in kaffeine06:55
dan_bstrange06:55
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the-ermmaybe one is trying to use /dev/dsp and the other alsa.06:55
binary2k2so you must have read access then06:55
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dan_byes I think so just cany view the ogg folders06:56
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dan_bBy the way binary thanks for you're help06:57
dan_bmuch appreciated06:57
MilhousePunkRockHi everyone06:57
binary2k2your welcome dan_b06:57
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dan_bKaffine can read from the disk but Konqueror06:59
dan_bcant06:59
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binary2k2is it an audio disk, or a data disk with audio files on it?06:59
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dan_baudio disks07:01
the-ermThat would make sense.07:01
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binary2k2don't hurt to check :p07:01
dan_bbut why wont amarok play them07:02
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compart1alguem sabe um msn bom para usar no kubuntu???07:02
MilhousePunkRockDid someone alter the splash screen to make it silver instead of blue and put it on kdelook.org maybe?07:03
binary2k2!br | compart107:03
ubotucompart1: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.07:03
MilhousePunkRock!es07:03
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.07:03
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compart1alguem sabe um msn bom para usar no kubuntu???07:03
binary2k2dan_b: I don't know, maybe amarok uses the same system as konq and kaffine dosen't?07:03
cntbcompart1, sudo apt-get install amsn maybe?07:04
dan_bkonq is just a file browser though isn't it07:04
binary2k2kopete works with msn07:04
MilhousePunkRockcompart1: Kopete can handle msn easily07:04
the-ermYou could rip the CD, and then it would definitely play it.07:04
cntbamsn shows hebrew backwards i one flaw compart1 . hebrew is read right to left07:04
binary2k2dan_b: yes, and no, it uses a sort of plugin system kalled kio, and I know amarok uses that too07:05
cntbcompart1, gaim can handle msn modestly but steady07:05
the-ermDoes that mean page 1 is on the right side?07:05
BluesKajamsn works07:05
cntbcompart1, alt-f2 gaim enter07:05
dan_bthat sounds like the prob07:05
dan_bnew to kde07:05
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compart1milhouse, impossible find the package07:06
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_kuja_... fortunately enough, all of the kde multimedia applications worth their salt will use the same intermediary backend in kde4 :)07:06
binary2k2dan_b: maybe file a bug report against konq, or a support request on launchpad.net07:06
BluesKaj!kde multimedia07:06
ubuntu#kubuntu-it07:06
ubotukde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:47 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB07:06
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dan_bcheers mate, thanks for all you're time and effort07:07
the-ermDidn't even think of that.07:07
MilhousePunkRockcompart1: Kopete? I can hardly imagine that, I think it even gets installed by default07:07
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binary2k2no probam07:07
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binary2k2MilhousePunkRock: yes, it's installed by default07:07
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cntbmy alt-tab function in kde is gone . what have I done what is the way to have alt+tab back07:07
compart1cntb, , impossible find the package07:08
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compart1cntb, impossible find the package07:08
cntbwhy compart107:08
the-ermalt+shift+tab  ???07:08
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binary2k2cntb: check in: System Settings -> Ketboard -> Keyboard Shortcuts07:08
binary2k2*keyboard07:08
cntbthen you need to have enabled universe and multiverse07:08
the-ermThat was my next guess.07:09
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binary2k2would help if i could spell :p07:09
cntbty binary2k207:09
cube__Q: i got the ATI drivers for my video card and it said it would install byitself, but KATE opens it, and im like.....hu?? what i do here07:09
jessy_hi all, something weird happening, I plug a usb hard drive, it appear and get mounted automatically, but then the "safely remove" option on the dialog doesn't have any effect (no error message, but still mounted when I list mounted drive with df)07:09
cntbcompart1,07:09
cntb!universe07:09
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:09
kevin_hi ....07:09
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MilhousePunkRock!kopete07:09
ubotukopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 6825 kB, installed size 18932 kB07:09
binary2k2cube__: in konsole: sudo sh fine_name.bin07:09
gmparskIpeople, I need help, I can't find my USB drives in the media folder07:10
the-ermjessy_: I'm guessing it's still accessing the data on the drive somewhere.  Usually it won't unmout if it's busy.07:10
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FlightOfStairshey people07:10
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jessy_the-erm, it would give me an errer message, beside I'm certain it was't acceses, I checked with lsof07:10
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binary2k2gmparskI: can you see them when you type in konsole "lsusb" ?07:10
compart1no sei como instalar o msn07:10
compart1alguem me ajufdaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa07:10
gmparskIbinary2k2, yes I do07:11
FlightOfStairsis there any way to tell how much bandwidth a process is using?07:11
the-ermjessy_: maybe you could umount as root ? see what that does.07:11
the-ermFlightOfStairs: I'm not sure about BW but top is a pretty good display.07:12
compart1alguem sabe umbommsn para kubuntu????07:12
gmparskIbinary2k2, yes I can*07:12
FlightOfStairsit doesnt have it07:12
compart1alguem sabe um bom msn para kubuntu????07:12
jessy_the-erm, yeah but as the computer is for my sister, I'd like things to work well, I just wanted to know if it was a known issue with edgy in fact, apparently not :/07:12
gmparskItypo :P07:12
binary2k2gmparskI: ok, remove the device(s) and in konsole type "tail -F /var/log/messages" then insert one of them, and look for output on the konsole07:12
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nelson_compart1: aMSN07:12
compart1i have the package for the other instant messenger, but i dont know istall the package. I 'll install the gaim, but i dont locate07:13
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compart1nelson, i try07:13
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gmparskIbinary2k2, it can see them or whatever07:13
cube__sudo sh fine_name.bin - sh: cant open file name07:13
cube__:-/07:13
gmparskIbinary2k2, but how do I get to them07:13
gmparskI?07:14
binary2k2cube__: replace file_name.bin with the name of the file you downloaded07:14
cube__i did07:14
cube__and it said07:14
cube__it coudnt open it07:14
MilhousePunkRockcompart1: Press Alt-F2 and type "gaim"07:14
binary2k2gmparskI: type lsmod|grep usb07:14
binary2k2gmparskI: do you get output?07:14
compart1milhouse, not work] 07:14
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cube__ati-driver-installer-8.31.5-x86.x86_64.run07:14
cube__this is it07:14
nelson_compart1: usa sudo apt-get install amsn07:14
binary2k2cube__: try running "chmod +x file" on the file first07:15
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binary2k2cube__: so run "chmod +x ati-driver-installer-8.31.5-x86.x86_64.run"07:15
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binary2k2cube__: then "sudo sh ati-driver-installer-8.31.5-x86.x86_64.run"07:15
nelson_compart1; amsn 0.95 est en los repositorios07:15
compart1nelson,  Impossvel achar pacote amsn07:16
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gmparskIbinary2k2, no I dont07:17
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gmparskIwait07:18
gmparskIbinary2k2, yes I do07:18
cube__i ran chmod +x on the RUN command and nothing happens....then i went to konsole and ran sudo sh ati-driver-installer-8.31.5-x86.x86_64.run and it says SH cant open file07:18
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nelson_compart1: mira aqu http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=amsn&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all07:18
binary2k2cube__: do ls -l ati-driver-installer-8.31.5-x86.x86_64.run make sure it's something like: rwxr-xr-x07:19
binary2k2cube__: and try: sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8.31.5-x86.x86_64.run07:19
gmparskIbinary2k2, actually I dont know, it says usb_storage            82240  0, so Im not sure07:19
binary2k2gmparskI: is that the only line?07:19
gmparskIno07:20
gmparskIthere are 4 lines07:20
binary2k2gmparskI: use pastebin07:20
binary2k2!pastebin07:20
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:20
gmparskI!pastebin07:20
gmparskI!pastebin07:20
gmparskIpelle@ubuntu:~$ lsmod|grep usb07:20
gmparskIusbhid                 43040  007:20
gmparskIusb_storage            82240  007:20
gmparskIusbcore               147132  5 usbhid,usb_storage,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd07:20
gmparskIscsi_mod              160504  6 sr_mod,sbp2,sg,usb_storage,sd_mod,libata07:20
ismael_estoy intentando  convertir nombres de ficcheros de utf a iso y me dice iso-8859-15 doesn't cover all needed characters for:  nombre fichero. Qu puedo hacer?07:21
binary2k2gmparskI: you're suposed to go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and paste it in there :p07:21
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gmparskIbinary2k2, XD http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35613/07:21
zorglu_!es | ismael_07:21
ubotuismael_: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.07:21
FlightOfStairsfound a solution for listing processes by bandwidth if anyone needs it btw: http://nethogs.sourceforge.net/07:22
binary2k2gmparskI: try: sudo modprobe libusual07:22
gmparskIbinary2k2, FATAL: Module libusual not found.07:23
binary2k2gmparskI: try: what kernel are you running? (uname -r)07:23
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justincredibleIs anyone here handy with configuring integrated bluetooth?07:23
gmparskI2.6.15-27-amd64-generic07:23
gmparskIbinary2k2, 2.6.15-27-amd64-generic07:23
kevin_i fear i know the answer, but is there any way to retrieve a lost su password?07:24
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binary2k2kevin_: sudo passwd root07:24
mducharmesudo passwd root07:24
zorglu_FlightOfStairs: thanks i needed something like that :)07:24
ismael_I'm converting file names from utf to iso with convmv but I have this  error: iso-8859-15 doesn't cover all needed characters for  filename. What can I do?07:24
FlightOfStairsnp :)07:24
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kevin_hey thx folks07:25
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ehirdanybody know a really accurate speed test?07:26
ehirdi've hit 500KB/sec steady in DLs but most are reporting 200KB/sec or so07:26
zorglu_yep, take a server which has plenty of bandwidth and download from it07:27
kevin_www.speedmeter.nl07:27
binary2k2gmparskI: I don't know, you have the modules loaded, but it's not showing up? do you have any devices in /dev like /dev/sda1 ?07:27
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nelson_ehird: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/07:27
cube__binary2k2= THaNKS the udo sh ati-driver-installer-8.31.5-x86.x86_64.run  Worked fine07:28
gmparskIbinary2k2, I cant find a /dev/sda107:28
zorglu_maouaou :)07:28
binary2k2cube__: great :D07:28
ehirdnelson_: yeah...but it's reporting like 1800kilobit when I know i can hit 5000kilobit07:28
zorglu_speedmeter.de test the network speed without using the network :)07:28
cube__and i was getting a litle fustrated, but knowing the commands make it easier than windows, cool , illook and read more into this thanks alot!07:28
zorglu_ehird: download the ubuntu iso via http from the closest mirror07:29
nelson_ehird: try another server..07:29
ehirdzorglu_: that doesn't really count as a speed test :p07:29
binary2k2gmparskI: just grasping at straws here but, try sudo modprobe scsi_mod07:29
ehirdnelson_: they're all in the us. i'm in the UK07:29
zorglu_ehird: it is07:29
MilhousePunkRockehird: That can be related to the server you download from... Not all are as fast as they could be for you07:29
zorglu_ehird: the only one i know to work07:29
nelson_ehird: I'm en Venezuela...07:30
ehirdnelson_: meh i'll try07:30
gmparskInothing happened07:30
zorglu_hehe he doesnt listen to me :)07:30
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gmparskIbinary2k2, nothing happened07:30
zorglu_the hard part is not to have the asnwer but to convince the guy that is the answer :)07:30
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binary2k2gmparskI: check for something like /dev/sda1 now07:31
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ehirdHAHA. Los angeles server is absolutely dead07:31
ehirdit says i can get the whopping 12KB/sec download07:32
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nelson_ehird: sometimes I use http://www.2wire.com/ but it give's me the highest readings07:32
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gmparskIbinary2k2, I can't find anything called sda107:33
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MilhousePunkRockehird: Your ISP might even have a speedtest on his homepage07:33
binary2k2gmparskI: I'm lost then, I have the same modules as you loaded (except for that libusual one), and I can see USB disks.07:34
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ehirdMilhousePunkRock: possibly, but obivously the connection to them would be fast07:34
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MilhousePunkRockehird: Yeah, that is most reliable...07:34
ehirdMilhousePunkRock: i prefer "accurate" - just because i can max everything out because it's their local servers doesn't mean i'll ever get that :)07:35
gmparskIbinary2k, but like I can see them, but not the files07:35
gmparskIbinary2k2, I see folders under /media, but I don't see any files inside07:35
binary2k2gmparskI: they are just the mount points07:35
compart1alguemmeajuda a instalar ummsn bom para kubuntu07:35
gmparskIbinary2k2, and they don't update if I change stuff, I've tried putting stuff in them using krusader, but it stays there even after I disconnect07:36
compart1alguem me ajuda a instalar ummsn bom para kubuntu07:36
compart1alguem me ajuda a instalar um msn bom para kubuntu07:36
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MilhousePunkRockehird: If you prefer accurate, screw the tests and see what you get in reality...07:36
binary2k2gmparskI: then the devices arent mounted there07:36
gmparskIbinary2k2, do you find your USB stuff under /media?07:36
ehirdwhat the hell, my isp's homepage has an advert for their services which has a copy+paste from a cyanide & happiness comic07:36
gmparskIbinary2k2, do you know how to mount?07:36
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agente2012compart1: instala amsn o gaim07:36
agente2012tambien puedes usar kopete07:36
MilhousePunkRockcompart1: This is the english channel. Repeating stuff in a language noone understands and ignoring what others recommended does not help you...07:37
binary2k2gmparskI: yes, *ubuntu alwasys mounts removable media under /media07:37
agente2012tambien puedes visitar el canal en espaol: #kubuntu-es07:37
Dr_willisor at least is supposed to. :)07:37
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gmparskIbinary2k2, they're not "Enabled" if I go to Disk & filesystems07:38
binary2k2gmparskI: see if you can enable them07:39
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gmparskIhow?07:39
cube__is there a WAY to Copy from the keyboard,on KONSOLE?07:41
cube__coply commands07:41
binary2k2gmparskI: click administer mode, then click on the partition, and click the enable button, or new to put where to mount it, then enable07:41
cube__insted of using the mouse and clicking COPY07:41
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ehirdcube__: ctrl+shift+c07:41
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cube__thanks07:42
ehirdshould work...but07:42
ehirdi find that07:42
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ehirdhighlighting words and using the middle mouse button to paste is more efficient07:42
gmparskIbinary2k2, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35623/07:43
gintaras:)07:43
gintaraslabas07:43
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nelson_I use ctrl+c to copy and shift+insert to paste07:44
binary2k2gmparskI: try running the command ir said "dmesg | tail"07:44
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ehirdnelson_: try THAT in the terminal07:44
ehirdbyebye program07:44
ehird"tail: warning: following standard input indefinitely is ineffective" <-- really? wouldn't have guessed07:44
gintarashello,anybody speak lithuanian?07:45
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ehirdno.07:45
BluesKaj!li07:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about li - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:45
BluesKajgintaras, do you speak any other lagauges ?07:46
gmparskIbinary2k2, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35625/07:46
BluesKajerr languages07:46
gintarasi don't know07:47
nelson_ehird: well... you have to highlight with the mouse07:47
gintarasmaybe russian07:48
binary2k2gmparskI: you're trying to mount the whole disk, you need to just mount a partiton, /dev/sdd1 for example07:48
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gmparskIbinary2k2, one sec I'll send you a link to a screnie07:50
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cs_ah07:50
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cs_the problem i have is window's problem for needing the bootloader absolutely positively on the first partition07:51
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cs_it somehow needs to be tricked :\07:51
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compart1milhousepunkbock, i have the package for the other instant messenger, but i dont know istall the package. I 'll install the gaim, but i dont locate07:51
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ypsilamoin07:53
gintarassi07:53
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ehirdnelson_: if you're not accurate and quick with the mouse you should get better ;)07:53
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compart1I have the package for the other instant messenger, but i dont know istall the package. I 'll install the gaim, but i dont locate07:55
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ehirdcan anybody tell me how to enable su while keeping sudo working?07:56
gmparskIbinary2k2, http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3263/whatthefuck6kg6.png07:56
phobiacI'm trying to use Ktorrent to download the most recent Kubuntu DVD iso and my connection internet connection keeps stopping altogether. I end up having to go into the system settings and disabling then renabling eth0, my wired connection, in order to get it up again. It's cable internet with 100 mbs/s speed, and the problem persists on no matter what internet connection I use (I've tried it two different places.) Any ideas on what the issu07:57
LjLehird: why do that?07:57
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nelson_ehird: sudo -i07:57
_kuja_sudo passwd -u root07:57
ehirdLjL: deja vu... i'm certain you asked me that YESTERDAY ;)07:57
ehirdnelson_: i know about sudo -i07:57
ehird_kuja_: hmm, i've read that that breaks sudo though07:57
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_kuja_No.07:58
_kuja_It makes sudo irrelevant though.07:58
binary2k2gmparskI: what do yo get when you do: " ls /dev/sdd* "07:58
_kuja_after that, sudo passwd root07:58
gmparskIbinary2k2, I get /dev/sdd  /dev/sdd107:59
nelson_ehird: sorry kid, didn't want to hurt your feelings...07:59
binary2k2gmparskI: change sdd to sdd1 in disk & filesystems07:59
ehirdnelson_: ... I just said i knew about it07:59
ehird_kuja_: kay07:59
gintaras:)08:00
gmparskIbinary2k2, I get the same error as before08:00
_kuja_ehird: first part unlocks the root account, second sets the passwd08:00
ehird_kuja_: thanks, it worked08:00
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binary2k2gmparskI: run this: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd08:00
binary2k2gmparskI: and post the output on pastebin08:01
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phobiacMy internet constantly times out when I try to use Ktorrent. How can I fix this?08:01
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Pyth0n_FanPhobiac: Perhaps your provider dislikes P2P flows?08:02
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binary2k2phobiac: try using encrypted connections, and changing to port number08:03
gmparskIbinary2k2, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35626/08:03
phobiacPyth0n_Fan: The problem pesists no matter where I am. I've tested on several different internet connections in different locations.08:03
phobiacpersists*08:03
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binary2k2gmparskI: ahh, you're trying to mount it as ext3 and its avtually fat08:04
binary2k2or ext2 ectually08:04
gmparskIoic, should I change it?08:04
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gmparskIbinary2k2, thanks! it's enabled now!08:05
binary2k2gmparskI: now you just need to enable the rest :p08:05
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Pyth0n_FanPhobiac: So maybe you try to lower number of parallel connections. Torrent is VERY network-stressing protocol.08:06
gmparskIbinary2k2, thanks alot man!08:06
gmparskI;D08:06
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binary2k2gmparskI: that fdisk command will help you see what file system to set it as, just repeat the process08:06
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gmparskIkthx :D08:07
binary2k2gmparskI: glad you got it working, took a while, but we got there :D08:07
phobiacAlright, thank you.08:07
ypsilaand away08:07
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vadoBonsoir tout le monde08:11
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TheGateKeeperbonsoir08:11
TheGateKeeper!fr08:11
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:11
flo_Hi ! What do i need to do on dapper to get KDE remotedesktop (Krfb / rc) running over the internet ? it just works on my local network..08:12
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tomaflo_: forward some ports on the firewall to the right internal ip-address08:14
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flo_toma: Is that something i can do with the KDE system settings or is it some config file ?08:15
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tomaflo_: depends on your internet connection method. If you have a adsl modem, you probably need to edit that device08:16
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_kuja_flo ... the routers I've used in the past use the ip 192.168.0.1. If you have a router, enter that into your browser and see what happens08:21
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gmparskibinary2k2, you still here?08:24
binary2k2yeah08:24
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gmparskibinary2k2, something happened, it still gives me the error, but it says it's enabled08:24
gmparskiand I can't seem to access it08:25
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binary2k2what's the error it gives?08:25
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gmparskibinary2k2, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35629/08:26
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binary2k2gnomefreak: and what dose "dmesg | tail" say?08:26
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gmparskibinary2k2, I know it's fat16, and it's mounted as VFAT (Windows FAT file system) but it still gives me the error08:26
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seeknabend zusammen08:27
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binary2k2gmparski: try "pmount /dev/sdd1 sdd1" and see what happens08:28
gmparskibinary2k2, I don't think anything happened08:29
binary2k2gmparski: look in /media/sdd108:29
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Flosofthey08:30
gmparskibinary2k2, something defenitely happened, one sec, no cheering yet, Im gonna see if it works :P08:30
FlosoftI am looking for an PCMCIA TV Card08:30
Flosoftany suggestions?08:30
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cathalI need to be able to check what has changed when updating an application in Kubuntu before apply the update. Is their a location of application that wil tell me this?08:32
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binary2k2cathal: the changelogs?08:33
cathalhow to i look at the change logs of the update before applying it?08:33
marcos_ollllllllllllllllllllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!08:34
binary2k2cathal: aptitude changelog [package-name] 08:34
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cathalbinary2k2: thats brilliant, thank you08:35
binary2k2:D08:36
binary2k2your welcome08:36
gmparskibinary2k2, yeah, it works now! :D08:37
gmparskithanks alot!08:37
binary2k2pmount is a nice little tool :D08:37
cathalIt would be great if that was in the update app, therefore i would just have click a button to see what has changed. Does any such app exist?08:37
gmparskiyeah lol08:37
binary2k2cathal: synaptic08:38
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cathalbinary2k2: does synaptic do it, i havent used that in awhile. Will check it out, thanks again.08:39
binary2k2cathal: it's version of update notifier will08:39
binary2k2cathal: shows  you the changelogs of the packages beore you start, install update-manager08:40
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binary2k2replaces the adept update-notifier (and is better imho)08:40
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tomafirefox is crashing every other page, any idea when i can do to stop that?08:44
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sungamtoma, It seems to happen if you're using 16 bit color instead of 32 or 24. At least it used to be like that08:46
tomasungam: whats the best way to check that?08:47
sungamtoma, look in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what 'Defaultdepth' is set to08:47
tomasungam: 16...08:47
binary2k2grep DefaultDepth /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:47
sungamtoma, change it to 2408:48
tomasungam: ok, brb08:48
sungamif that gives you isses loading xorg, change it back :)08:48
sungamtoo late :(08:48
cathalsungam: hopefully he'll figure that out08:49
sungamcathal, :)08:49
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tomasungam: you rock08:50
sungamtoma, no problem :)08:51
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cloakableAnyone here use Gamefu?08:53
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cloakableI need a deb file of it, or at least instructions on how to make a deb08:53
cloakableFrom the source.08:53
binary2k2colleverde: use ckeckinstall to make deb from source08:54
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sparrwI have a PCL printer installed, my Firefox print properties dialog says Letter, but the printer is complaining it has no A4 paper.  Help?09:05
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cloakableOh, eff.09:06
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el_simehello09:10
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el_simedoes anyone know if i got to do anything other than turning off ipv6 in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases to disable ipv6?09:12
el_simelooks like everything connects regularly to the internet except for aptitude09:12
binary2k2el_sime: just read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv409:13
h3sp4wnel_sime: or read the ipv6 linux documentation project howto it is pretty cool (and you can have every machine externally accessible with it)09:15
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el_simethanks binary2k2, h3sp4wn, i'm reading09:17
cloakableDoes anyone have Gamefu 0.2 as a debian package?09:17
h3sp4wnel_sime: If you want an externally accessible server behind a home connection (where you only get 1 ipaddress) with ipv6 you can have it fully accessible09:18
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binary2k2fully accessable only if the peope connecting use IPv609:19
binary2k2tho I do :D09:19
h3sp4wnI am not talking about running a website (I fundementally disagree with doing that on contested connections) I mean just somewhere you can get to if you need to09:21
binary2k2http://freedns.afraid.org/ - free DNS with static OR dynamic IPv4 and IPv6 (what i use)09:23
ubuntuhuhu :)09:23
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el_simeh3sp4wn: well i actually did that already, but i think i found something about the router being the problem09:28
el_simethe page is in italian so i guess it would be of no use to post here09:29
h3sp4wn!it09:29
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:29
h3sp4wn(don't know how many people are there though)09:29
el_simeuhm i didn't found the channel in the list09:29
el_simebut anyways:)09:30
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knapp__Anyone know how to get easytag to read WMVs?09:37
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fabio_someone can give me help about driver of ati x1600 ?09:43
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h3sp4wnfabio_:wget http://kanotix.com/files/install-fglrx-debian.sh ; chmod 755 install-fglrx-debian.sh; sudo ./install-fglrx-debian.sh09:50
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h3sp4wnfabio_: Just run that and you will get the latest ati drivers (should configure itself automatically)09:50
fdovingh3sp4wn: nice one. does it make a .deb ?09:51
h3sp4wnfdoving: It uses the debs that the ati installer can generate09:52
fabio_H3SP4WN...09:52
fdovingh3sp4wn: ah.. nice.09:52
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h3sp4wnfdoving: and builds a suitable kernel module09:52
fabio_1minute...i'm rebooting09:52
fabio_because i have make a change09:52
fabio_now i rejoin09:52
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h3sp4wnfdoving: I cannot find anything wrong that script does (which is why I would recommend it over any other way of installing later drivers)09:54
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fdovingh3sp4wn: certainly makes it less of a pain for end users.09:55
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wildchild:s I clicked on a song in xmms and note appeared: Please check that: your sound card is configured properly, you have the correct output plugin selected, no other program is blocking the soundcqard....09:57
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[GuS] is back..09:58
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vandenoeverhas anyone tried to install intels c++ compiler on edgy?10:01
h3sp4wnfdoving: Yep (I tested it on edgy 64 bit - on my little brothers computer when he was fixing it for ubuntu)10:01
vandenoeveri want to compile strigi with it for portability10:01
vandenoeverh3sp4wn: how did you get past ./install.sh?10:02
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vandenoeverit wont accept my absolute license path10:02
h3sp4wnvandenoever: I have never used intel's c++ compiler if I wanted to use it I would use a supported platform10:02
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vandenoeverh3sp4wn: make sense10:04
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mc__vandenoever: why dont use gcc?10:06
vandenoevermc__: i mainly use gcc, but intel has extra warnings10:06
vandenoeverit's good to clean up every once in a while10:06
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mc__vandenoever: oh,ok10:09
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NicksteSAIn which repository can I find kismet?10:09
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wolverineanyone here familiar with samba and cifs?10:11
archangel_how can I look at a 'list' of channels?10:11
vandenoeverarchangel_: which program?10:12
vandenoever /list ?10:12
wolverinewhen i mount a remote samba share via fstab it is mounted with a uid that does not exist10:12
archangel_konversation (sorry)10:12
vandenoeverF510:12
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archangel_didnt even know there were more than 1 prog.10:13
archangel_thank you10:13
wolverinesamba anyone?10:14
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wildchild:s I clicked on a song in xmms and note appeared: Please check that: your sound card is configured properly, you have the correct output plugin selected, no other program is blocking the soundcqard....10:16
wildchildsoundcard*10:16
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jessyhi all, could someone tell me why KDE settings "Monitor&display" still thinks I have a vesa driver altough I do have a perfectly working nvidia driver (but because of that I cannot change reoslutions through KDE settings)10:17
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jeismahow would i go about playing a poker application that i would need to download from a website onto kubuntu?10:19
vandenoeverjeisma: wine10:19
vandenoeverassuming its a windows application10:19
vandenoeverwine poker.exe10:20
jeismaso i have to download the exe10:20
jeismathen use wine to open it?10:20
vandenoeveryes10:20
jeismaok10:20
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mc__jessy: you can change the resolution directly in the xorg.conf10:21
vandenoeverjeisma is from the group of users that runs one program at a time10:21
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stefaanshello all10:23
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stefaansanyone here?10:25
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stefaansanyone here running opennms10:27
stefaans??10:27
jasonanyone here have an easy way of encoding video for 5g ipod in linux?10:27
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jasonheh - i mean in ubuntu10:28
jasonkubuntu10:28
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stefaanshmm gimme a second, what encoding can ipod read?10:30
stefaansmpg, avi?10:30
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fullmj|StaniAre there any drivers for the Razer Diamondback?10:30
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wildchildI have some serious problems with my sound: all the sudden music don't work in amarok and xmms: in amarok when I click on track nothing happens and when I click on other track it ask me to terminate amarok. In xmms when I click on a song note appears:  Please check that: your sound card is configured properly, you have the correct output plugin selected, no other program is blocking the soundcqard....  Please help10:31
stefaansjason acidrip,10:31
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jasonthx stefaans10:32
stefaansapt-get or aptitude like a dream10:32
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stefaanswildchild what does your logs say?10:32
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wildchildstefaans: don't understand log of amarok and xmms? don't know they exists10:33
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fullmj|StaniAre there any linux drivers for the Razer Diamondback?10:34
stefaansjason try this "sudo apt-cache search rip | grep dvd"10:34
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stefaanswildchild: try "tail -f /var/log/messages" run again and see what turns up10:35
stefaansfullmj|Stani: what device is that?10:35
fullmj|StaniAstefaans: A mouse10:36
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fullmj|Stanistefaans**10:36
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stefaansyou don't need a driver go google for 7 button mouse10:37
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wildchildstefaans: that's odd, now everything works..10:38
wildchildwhat is this "tail -f /var/log/messages" command mean ?10:39
wildchilddoes*10:39
el_simeh3sp4wn: i found out the connection problem, in the end it was the router working as a dns server, i just set the dns servers manually and aptitude is working now10:39
stefaansman tail :-D10:39
wildchild:)10:39
stefaansjust gives you a scrolling view of what is happening in a file10:39
mducharmewas that a joke to make someone say "man tail"?10:40
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stefaansjust tail /var/log/messages wil give you the last 10 lines10:40
wildchildyeah, whell that's not everything... couse now music plays10:40
jamesb_dosbox worked for me i dapper but in edgy the mouse freezes when in dosbox. How do I downgrade back to version 0.63-2.1 which was/is in dapper?10:40
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stefaanstail -f  /var/log/messages and it scrolls by10:40
stefaanshandy when checking pop3 logins or mail coming in10:40
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stefaanswildchild: don't run then @ same time10:41
mducharme"tail" really need colors. colourtail segfaults constantly10:41
jamesb_tail prints out the (default 10) last lines of a file. -f means "follow" ie. continue printing if lines are added10:41
wildchildstefaans: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35651/ that's what tail said10:41
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jamesb_dosbox worked for me i dapper but in edgy the mouse freezes when in dosbox. How do I downgrade back to version 0.63-2.1 which was/is in dapper?10:43
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stefaanswildchild: http://www.gnu.org/software/textutils/manual/textutils/html_node/textutils_14.html10:45
BlueMagecan anyone help me get Flash 9 working?10:45
stefaansshure10:46
chimaerajust install, scan insidefpr plugins  konqi, working.10:46
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BlueMagewhen I install it through wine it says the a certain file could not be opened10:46
wildchildstefaans, thx for keeeping me up with useful things10:46
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stefaanscool man10:47
chimaeraBlueMage: why would you install it using wine? just install the linux version..10:47
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stefaansBlueMage: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/11/21/20723410:47
stefaansthat will get you started10:48
BlueMagebut the linux version is Flash 7, I believe, I need 910:48
stefaansls10:48
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intelikey!flash910:49
ubotuflash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports10:49
intelikey!backports10:49
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports10:49
srednaHow can I downgrade a program?10:49
srednaThe new version of xine is not functioning properly, it fails to keep a stream running10:50
stefaanssredna: use vlc10:50
jasonstefaans - i installed acidrip - now what? lol10:50
intelikeysredna install the version you want from the repos ?10:50
srednastefaans: What?10:50
srednaintelikey: How do I know which versions are available?10:51
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intelikeysredna ubuntu.com/packages  i think10:51
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stefaansjason: hehehehe should install in kmenu under multimedia10:51
stefaansthen google!10:51
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srednaSo, the famous apt can't tell me :)10:51
sredna:(10:51
stefaanssredna: aptitude search <package>10:52
intelikeyit can10:52
srednaOk, thank you stefaans10:52
intelikeybut so can adept iirc10:52
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cloakableOr type apt:/search?<package> in Konqueror :)10:53
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cloakableFeature I didn't know about :)10:53
cloakableKudos to the Kubuntu maintainers :)10:53
sparrwi have a file in /etc not owned by any package...  thats odd10:53
srednastefaans: I need to know not the current version, but the old one10:53
srednaThe current version is broken10:54
srednaSo is mplayer bts10:54
srednaW10:54
angasulesparrw: great tip10:54
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intelikeysparrw which ?10:54
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stefaansjason: apt:/search?dvd::rip type that into konq, another favourite10:54
kerwonzwhat's the package include kit for devel?10:55
sparrwintelikey: /etc/papersize10:56
intelikeyhmmm mine is owned by root10:56
intelikeywho owns your sparrw ?10:56
srednaAgain, how do I find the previous version of a package?10:56
stefaanssredna: /me wondering too10:57
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srednastefaans: Maybe one shouldn't use a debian derivee that is not debian stable10:58
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intelikeysredna apt-cache policy xine10:58
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kay!de10:58
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:58
intelikeysredna not a bad idea.   but how many distros would that include ?10:59
srednaExactly one, if you stick to apt10:59
stefaanssredna: I kinda love my kubuntu10:59
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srednaBut you can trust it to be conservative enough to not upgrade to non-functional software11:00
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srednastefaans: I'm not so sure.11:00
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intelikeysredna so use debian,  you wont hurt anyone in here's feeling if you ditch *buntu and use debian  :)11:00
srednaintelikey: I't have to use something else11:01
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intelikeysredna fedora maybe11:01
instructorIs there a Kherd1?11:01
srednaintelikey: No chance :)11:01
intelikeyhell use windows, it wont bother me.11:02
srednaBut let me see if I can get a functioning version of xine, and I'll stick to kubuntu for now11:02
intelikeyor just gripe about the software you refuse to give up.....   i don't guess that bothers me either.11:02
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trappistsredna: ubuntu in general, and edgy in particular, are not very conservative w/r/t software updates11:04
intelikeysredna and when someone tells you a simple way to find all avalable versions of a package it's not expected that you follow their advice,  we really do expect you to keep asking the same already answered question over and over, and to bitch about the help, support, and software....11:05
stefaansanyone here know about SVG plugins?11:05
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kerwonzwhat's the package include the kit for developers?11:05
trappistsredna: if your threshold for stability isn't compatible with ubuntu's release cycle or upgrade policies, you should probably use debian11:05
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srednaintelikey: Sorry? I have yet to find the previous version.11:05
cathalsredna: what are u looking for?11:06
srednacathal: A working version of xine11:06
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cathalsredna: works for me, look in the changelogs for all the previous versions11:06
srednaThe current one is broken, as it fails playing a stream, it does not download data11:07
srednacathal: How?11:07
srednaWhere?11:07
cathalaptitude changelogs packagename11:07
sampo-Help please: Are there anybody familiar with software-raid (I do not know right term in english)?11:07
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trappistsampo-: that's the right term11:08
flakei tried that echo '..' thing to get audio working for enemy-territory, but i still have no audio, does anyone have any tips11:08
flakenormal audio works ok, like booting up, shutting down, playing mp3's11:08
sampo-I got lucky. :) I have few question about; does I need reformat that exiting disk? I have one disk and I pay new one; proglem is, that there is data in old disk.11:08
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desterkinAnybody around who can help configure wireless connection (ndiswrapper)?11:09
jamesb_sredna: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ has a nice list of all packages11:09
srednaI can see the changelog for libxine1, but using the string (apt-get install libxine1=1.1.2+repacked1-0ubuntu2 ) fails11:10
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cathalsredna: remove the current one first11:11
srednaI can try that, cathal11:12
Bubba_Gumpany programs that can, convert, quicktime movies, to avi or mp4 ??11:12
cathalsredna: u really shouldnt need to this this, if theirs a problem it should be fixed11:12
trappistBubba_Gump: mencoder11:12
cloakableI have a program that displays with no borders, etc. Is there any way i can correct this?11:12
trappistcloakable: what program? (some are designed not to do that)11:12
srednacathal: Right now, I can't view tv over the internet, since xine as well as mplayer is broken11:13
srednaDowngrading would possibly fix that11:13
srednaBut it appears to be very complex to do so11:13
srednaUninstalling libxine has a lot of dependancy issues11:14
cloakabletrappist: Space Combat. External program (http://www.x-plane.com/SpaceCombat.html)11:14
trappistsredna: yep11:14
cathalsredna: yes it is. Is it broken for u or is this a know bug?11:14
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srednaI don't know11:14
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srednaKubuntu.org does not even mention a bug database11:14
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cathalsredna: give a link of a movie file that doesnt work for u11:15
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srednacathal: It's embedded, let me see if kmplayer shows the url of the stream in the console11:16
trappistsredna: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xine-lib/+bugs11:16
srednamms://wms.dr.dk/nas01/auto/cms/Resources/dr.dk/NETTV/DR1/2006/12/79da6065-43a9-483b-be12-95e42cf08c88/Absalons_Hemmelighed_6.wmv?WMContentBitrate=28000011:16
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intelikeysredna http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=libxine1  <<--  and   dpkg -i --force-downgrade packagename.deb   is not hard....11:17
srednaThe problem is that it's not filling the cache properly all the time, I get holes11:17
VSpikeGot a strange problem -- if I go to "Configure Desktop->Screensavers", I can test screensavers and they work, choose one, set the timeout, etc... but in practice they never kick in.  If I leave the machine for ages, it goes to a screensaver of the X11 logo.  Any idea why it's doing this?11:17
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srednaintelikey: Finding a way through all the various parts of package tools is hard. But thank you11:18
intelikeysredna dpkg is the debian package manager    every thing else is a front/back/end to dpkg11:18
srednaSorry dude11:19
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cathalsredna: whats the movie type and the error u get?11:20
srednacathal: The error is that xine fails to keep the stream running11:21
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srednaI have no idea about the movie type11:21
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VSpikebah11:22
cathalsredna: it must fail with some errors???11:22
srednacathal: The problems can be unrelated to xine too, it can be a bandwidt problem or something else11:22
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srednacathal: There are no fatal errors, except the video pauses sometimes11:23
srednaI wanted to retry the older version of xine, because yesterday it worked11:23
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srednaBut I think I'll give up on that and see if it keeps failing over some days11:24
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srednaSince downgrading appears to be very difficult11:24
joe3ksredna: did you try sudo apt-get install libxine1/edgy11:25
cathalsredna: im at a loss sorry dude, check out the FAQ at xinehq.de.Without some example or error message not much i can think of11:25
joe3ksredna: there's a update only in edgy-security right now11:25
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srednajoe3k: I did upgrade 10 minutes ago. The problem is still there. But as I said, xine is just one possible explanation11:27
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joe3ksredna: the libxine1/edgy should downgrade assuming you have the last update from edgy-security11:28
[Amigo] Who using K6.06 x86 KDE3.5.5 and __amaroK1.4.3__ without problems from amaroK side?11:28
srednajoe3k: I think I have kubuntu edgy as my current kubuntu version11:28
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srednaHm, now xine caved in11:29
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sponixanyone know of a better torrent client ktorrent ?11:29
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joe3ksredna: that's ok but do you have 1.1.2+repacked1-0ubuntu3 or 1.1.2+repacked1-0ubuntu3.211:29
sredna1.1.2+repacked1-0ubuntu3.211:29
joe3ksredna: ok so the previous one is 1.1.2+repacked1-0ubuntu311:30
joe3ksredna: and you get it by apt-get install libxine1/edgy11:30
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joe3ksredna: at least for me it tries to downgrade11:30
srednajoe3k: I had that a half hour ago, and that didn't work either11:30
joe3ksredna: ahhh ok11:30
srednaI want what I had yesterday, but it looks impossible11:31
joe3ksredna: so which previous one do you want to have :) from dapper?11:31
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joe3ksredna: ok now i don't get it what did you have yesterday11:31
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srednaI simply does not know11:31
srednaWhatever was there before 1.1.2+repacked1-0ubuntu311:31
sredna1.1.2+repacked1-0ubuntu2 I think11:32
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joe3ksredna: i see11:32
Jucatooooh sredna's here :)11:33
joe3ksredna: maybe it still lies around somewhere in ls /var/cache/apt/archives/ ?11:33
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srednajoe3k: I think I give up11:33
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srednaIf it does not work tomorrow either, I'll file a bug or change to some other distro11:34
joe3ksredna: it won't be that easy to go back to that one it's simply not in the repos anymore11:34
srednaThough I mostly like kubuntu11:34
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mducharmeis kde4 available in feisty?11:34
fmeissnerJucato: I know you won't be too happy about this, but I reinstalled Kubuntu and for the life of me cannot remember the nvidia-glx commands, I got linux-restricted-modules-generic and nvidia-glx but I don't know the commands, a little help?11:35
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Jucatosudo nvidia-xconfig11:35
fmeissnerthanks11:35
Jucato:)11:35
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VSpikesponix: azureus is good but it doesn't seem to work in Kubunty Edgy11:36
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stefaansI need to go to bed now 1:30am over here11:36
stefaansbye11:36
VSpikebye :)11:37
srednaI think it would be smart to display dates on the bur system lists11:37
joe3ksredna: what about this one https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/i386/libxine-main1/1.1.2+repacked1-0ubuntu211:37
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fmeissnerJucato: I wrote it down this time11:37
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joe3ksredna: well actually this one :) https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/i386/libxine111:38
joe3ksredna: seems you can download it there :)11:38
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keeganXHas anyone tried using KDE with qt4?11:39
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srednajoe3k: Thank you.11:39
joe3ksredna: np11:40
srednakeeganX: You can't use kde 3 with qt 4.11:40
keeganXI thought there was like a development version of it11:40
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srednakeeganX: You can run qt4 apps inside kde 3 though11:40
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srednaThere is no kde 4 version interresting for non-developers yet11:40
fribuntuHi all11:41
fribuntuanybody else here using k3b to burn iso DVD images?11:41
fribuntuHow do I disable that annoying md5 sum check?11:41
fribuntuI have just made my own image file, I do not need to wait 90 minutes till k3b is done calculating the md5 of a 4.2 GB file!11:42
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joe3kfribuntu: i think you can just say burn even if it doesn't yet have the md511:43
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fribuntujoe3k: Well, it makes very heavy usage of the disk while calculating that sum. It might screw up the burning process, or not?11:44
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joe3kfribuntu: hmmm i don't remember but i think it'll just stop the md5 calculation if you say 'burn'11:45
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cathalhow come not everyfile gives the option to edit as root, as in the option in actions -> edit as root by right clciking on the file?11:45
Bubba_Gumpi lost my location toolbar in konq, how do i get it back again>11:47
trappistcathal: I haven't looked into it, but I would imagine that the option wouldn't exist if you (the user) can edit it yourself11:47
fribuntujoe3k: Ok, I will try that some other time. I only have exactly one empty DVD-R left :)11:47
Jucatocathal: maybe the file is not editable in a text editor, or the file isn't owned by root11:47
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JucatoBubba_Gump: Settings -> Toolbars ?11:48
Bubba_Gumphow do i get it back onto the browser?11:48
Bubba_Gumpall i see is file copy etc11:49
Bubba_Gumpwith no location bar underneath11:49
Bubba_Gumpoh, got it :)11:49
Jucato:/11:49
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Flosofthey11:50
intelikeyhay11:50
cathaltrappist: Jucato: yea i already checked , its owned by root, a file which i can edit as root has the same privilages. The only difference is that its a python file, trying to use kate to open the file.11:50
Flosofthow come that the IAX library is broken, and when is there going to be a fix?11:50
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Tjacan some tell me how to get this with using svn11:52
Tjahttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/base/kbfx_plasma/?rev=61115511:52
Tjahttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/base/kbfx_plasma/11:52
Flosofthttps://launchpad.net/bugs/7410211:52
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JucatoTja: Plasma is a KDE 4 project. which means it won't run on the current KDE release11:54
fribuntuWhy is kmail showing two question marks for new mail in the message list, even after I mark everything as read? I have to manually click on each mail to make those questionmarks disappear.11:54
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TjaJucato: im involved in that project11:54
fribuntuWhat do they mean anyhow?11:54
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JucatoTja: might want to ask in #kde4-devel then. (and install svn)11:55
Tjayeah ican try11:55
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joe3kfribuntu: question marks?? never saw that on unread mail ...11:56
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intelikeyfribuntu expand that column and see what the ?? is in...11:56
fribuntujoe3k: double question marks, one a little smaller than the other. It is on every downloaded mail.11:56
joe3kfribuntu: i think it has some other meaining11:57
fribuntuintelikey: It is in the subject column, right where the "document" symbol should be.11:57
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joe3kfribuntu: you use imap?11:58
fribuntujoe3k: No, pop311:58
intelikeyi still sujest expanding the column11:58
Jucatodoes anyone know from what file Kubuntu KDE reads env variables like $PATH and $KDEDIRS?11:59
fribuntuintelikey: It is 2/3 of my screen right now and mostly empty. Just in the very right it has two ?? instead of the little sheet of paper it shows after I click it.11:59
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joe3kfribuntu: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kdepim-users&m=115406585504372&w=211:59
joe3kfribuntu: tell us if it helps :)12:00
fribuntujoe3k: hang on ... checking12:00
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intelikeywhen thing that belong in     | this much space |     are shown in    |??|     they often apear that way...    not sure that's what you see...12:00
vadoBonsoir12:00
joe3kintelikey: i think you get ... then don't you12:01
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intelikeyjoe3k i get ??   but in mozilla, i don't use kmail.12:01
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joe3kintelikey: ok, kmail shows ...., just tried it; and if you make it too small for ... then it shows just the first char12:02
fribuntuintelikey: I am seeing |??  subject of mail <heaps of space>                      | sender | date |12:02
fribuntuintelikey: I'd like to see | <little page symbol> subject of mail <heaps of space>          | sender | date |12:03
intelikeyfribuntu that may be an icon file not found?    idk.12:03
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joe3ki think those are the crypto-icons mentioned in the post12:04
fribuntuintelikey: It looks like something similar to an error. That's why it is irritating me so much. It disappears after manually selecting the title.12:04
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intelikeyfribuntu i see what you mean, just started kmail12:05
fribuntujoe3k: That "show crypto symbol" hint seems to have done it. At least when I send myself a testmail, there are not question marks.12:05
fribuntuintelikey: Ah, so you have those ?? too now?12:06
joe3kthat's interesting i don't remember seeing those marks for years :) ... and i use _only_ kmail12:08
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joe3kbut maybe i turned it off years ago :)12:08
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ehirdi am Remote! bwahaha12:10
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intelikeyfribuntu i only get them if signature or encription is turned on.... if you get them with both those columns turned off then i suspect kmail is looking for an icon file it's not finding...12:12
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