[12:14] <DanglyBits> anyone help with an audio problem in kubuntu?
[12:15] <Otis> wizard: hm, I had a quick look in Synaptic ... maybe I missed it
[12:15] <scott__> which dvd player do you recommend?
[12:15] <wizard> Otis: its there, the default version of kde that ships with it.
[12:15] <wizard> Otis: warning though: kdepowerm is highly buggy in 6.10
[12:16] <Otis> wizard: oh, ok
[12:16] <wizard> Otis: so be prepared for your monitor to not shut off for 5 hours.
[12:16] <Otis> wizard: I guess that I should be able to start a KDE session then at graphical logon ?
[12:16] <wizard> Otis: yup.
[12:16] <Otis> I'll go check that
[12:16] <Otis> thx so far
[12:16] <Otis> laterz
[12:16] <wizard> pz
[12:17] <cntb> !alternatives
[12:17] <ubotu> To change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.
[12:17] <chimaera> hi.
[12:18] <chimaera> anyone has experience with suspend-mdes on a desktop PC?
[12:18] <chimaera> seems my machine doesn't wake up, or at least doesn't display anything. are there problems with the proprietary ati-drivers?
[12:18] <mango12> someone an ideo why my kubuntu found dont find packages? iam connectable :)
[12:19] <Vladdy> binary drivers are evil..
[12:20] <Otis> wizard: I swear that when I click "Options", it offers me a couple of variants of Gnome but no KDE
[12:20] <SupremeBeing> can someone help me with fglrx?
[12:20] <fred__> hey, does anybody here know how to install nvidia drivers for kubuntu?
[12:20] <wizard> Otis: well are you on kubuntu or ubuntu?
[12:20] <chimaera> Vladdy: but evil is soo much more sexy! and buggy i guess ^^
[12:20] <SupremeBeing> nvidia is easy :P try ati >:/
[12:21] <Vladdy> and bloated..
[12:21] <chimaera> Vladdy: and fast..
[12:21] <cntb> !fax
[12:21] <Vladdy> if they opened their source..
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fax - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <chimaera> mango12: do you get an error-message?
[12:21] <Otis> ubuntu ... should have been more clear
[12:21] <SupremeBeing> !fglrx
[12:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:21] <wizard> Otis: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:21] <cntb> !pnp
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pnp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <Otis> wizard: gotcha, thanks
[12:22] <chimaera> !hibernate
[12:22] <ubotu> hibernate: smartly puts your computer to sleep (suspend to RAM or disk). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.91-2 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB
[12:22] <wizard> Otis: no problm
[12:22] <Otis> wizard: no need to add sources ?
[12:22] <LjL> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupAndFax
[12:22] <Vladdy> didn't need anything
[12:22] <cntb> !isapnp
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about isapnp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <LjL> !botabuse
[12:22] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[12:23] <SupremeBeing> chimaera: I can't get fglrx working :/
[12:23] <Vladdy> then read that site? :O
[12:23] <SupremeBeing> Vladdy: Have done, hasn't worked
[12:23] <SupremeBeing> Vladdy: I have my xorg.log if it'd help
[12:23] <Otis> wizard: btw, what's the difference between kubuntu and kde ?
[12:24] <LjL> !kubuntu
[12:24] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[12:24] <chimaera> SupremeBeing: what doesn't work? error-messages? checked /varr/log/X.org.0.log?
[12:24] <SupremeBeing> Otis: KDE is a desktop environment, kubuntu is a distrobution of linux
[12:24] <SupremeBeing> chimaera: Accelation, i have the log but I don't know what it means http://pastebin.ca/268691
[12:24] <Otis> wizard: hm, ok, cheers
[12:25] <SupremeBeing> chimaera: something called DRI didn't start, I saw that much.
[12:25] <Otis> wizard: last silly question .... does apt-get install kubuntu-desktop get me *just* the desktop ?
[12:26] <SupremeBeing> Otis: Nein =)
[12:26] <Vladdy> SupremeBeing: kernel module not loaded? :O
[12:26] <Otis> well then I think I'll go for kde-desktop then
[12:26] <chimaera> SupremeBeing: using fglrx, you can't use composite extension and DRI at the same time so you might want to disable the composite extensions in your xorg.conf
[12:26] <SupremeBeing> Vladdy: Uhh, not that error message I think
[12:26] <Otis> seeing how I installed ubuntu and not kubuntu
[12:26] <SupremeBeing> chimaera: Uhh #1 how? #2 will that enable 3d accel?
[12:26] <Otis> wizard: does that make sense ?
[12:26] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Otis about kde | Otis, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:27] <Otis> LjL: tx !
[12:27] <chimaera> SupremeBeing: a) quick goolge, b) yes.
[12:27] <SupremeBeing> chimaera: Thanks, I'll try it =D
[12:27] <DanglyBits> anyone help with an audio problem in kubuntu?
[12:27] <SupremeBeing> DanglyBits: I had an audio problem - check the switches =D
[12:27] <wizard> Otis: it gets you  the desktop and all dependencies
[12:27] <SupremeBeing> DanglyBits: Make sure the right jack is hooked to your sound
[12:28] <Otis> wizard: aren't I better off just getting kde-desktop on top of a vanilla ubuntu install ?
[12:28] <DanglyBits> SupremeBeing: its a plantronics usb headset
[12:28] <Otis> I'm just not seeing the comparative advantages between the options
[12:28] <SupremeBeing> DanglyBits: Ahh, sorry can't help with USB.
[12:29] <chimaera> Otis: depends on. i use kde, so i use ubuntu and spare myself all of teh gtk/gnome overhead..
[12:29] <wizard> Otis: it doesnt matter
[12:29] <chimaera> s/ubuntu/kubuntu/
[12:29] <Otis> chimaera: that's exactly what I need .... so straight kde-desktop ?
[12:30] <Otis> ah ok
[12:30] <Otis> kubuntu ditches the gtk/gnome stuff ?
[12:30] <chimaera> it just doesn't install it in the 1st place
[12:30] <Otis> or at least frees one from dependencies with Gnome
[12:30] <Otis> ok, I like the sound of kubuntu now ! :-D
[12:30] <Otis> here goooooes
[12:30] <chimaera> have fun ;)
[12:31] <Otis> hehe, can't find package, I guess I need an extra source .... I'll look at that website that was mentionned
[12:32] <fari> como instalo la nueva version de firefox ?
[12:32] <killermach_> anyone get hibernate working on kde in kubuntu? I have a hibernate button if I login to a gnome session and it works fine, but no option in KDE logoff
[12:34] <DanglyBits> where can i find other themes for kubuntu that will work with edgy?
[12:34] <cntb> Sending to fax using: /usr/bin/fax NAME="'Tony Osnat Tamir'" DEV='modem' PAGE='a4' FROM='03-5494029'  send '0542050108' '/tmp/kde-user/kdeprint_UOy3STqU'
[12:34] <cntb> /bin/sh: /usr/bin/fax: not found
[12:34] <cntb> fax issue on good modem
[12:34] <Otis> wizard: the webpage I'm reading seems to assume that I *have* kubuntu packages ...
[12:35] <Otis> I don't have them anywhere .... I guess I have to download them ... thing is, the kubuntu page seems to want me to download a whole distro
[12:35] <Otis> which is notwhat I need
[12:35] <fred__> I am having trouble installing the nvidia drivers
[12:35] <Otis> is there a repo where I can get just kubuntu-desktop ?
[12:35] <chimaera> Otis: kubuntu _is_ a whole distro. if you want to install within a ubuntu installation, apt get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:36] <fred__> I updated to nvidia-glx
[12:36] <chimaera> Otis: after you added the ubuntu repositories to aour sources.list
[12:36] <fred__> and when I try to enable it with konsole I get an error
[12:36] <soulrider> fred__:  is this the first time you install a driver ?
[12:37] <soulrider> for your video card that is
[12:37] <fred__> yeah
[12:37] <soulrider> ah
[12:37] <Otis> chimaera: well I need the appropriate repo string to add to my sources.list
[12:37] <soulrider> you might want to follow this
[12:37] <fred__> okay
[12:37] <soulrider> !nvidia > fred__
[12:37] <Otis> chimaera: I guess I'll find those on the kubuntu website
[12:37] <chimaera> Otis: you migth, but kubuntu uses te same repos as ubuntu does..
[12:38] <fred__> I followed that
[12:38] <fred__> and they still aren't working
[12:39] <ryanakca> why doen't my vt[1-6] s' text have any color? I have it setup so that it does in .bash(something)... colored terminal text only works in konsole/xterm, but not in the vts
[12:39] <Otis> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop says "couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop"
[12:39] <ryanakca> Otis: do you have main enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[12:39] <Otis> ah, I go see
[12:40] <soulrider> fred__: make sure you edited xorg.conf correctly
[12:41] <Otis> ryanakca: according to "Software Sources" (the GUI tool for sources.list), yes
[12:41] <Otis> just FYI, I'm on Edgy Eft
[12:41] <chimaera> Otis: quick check with "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:42] <Otis> ok but kubuntu,org's own page does not mention ubuntu 6.10
[12:42] <ryanakca> Otis: try ' apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop '
[12:42] <ryanakca> pastebin the output please :)
[12:43] <Otis> ok
[12:43] <chimaera> Otis: you have yet to get the concept of ubuntu/kubuntu straight, i guess ;)
[12:43] <cntb>  Error: can't open serial port /dev/modem: No such file or directory
[12:44] <Otis> chimaera: getting there slowly .... :-)
[12:45] <fred__> how do I install nvidia graphics drivers?
[12:45] <Otis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35491/
[12:45] <Otis> more useful would be to paste the sources.list file
[12:45] <killermach_> time to reboot.. working on getting 3D enable for ATI.. brb
[12:46] <chimaera> fred__: your're on repeat. follow the howtos and report specirfic problems you encounter.
[12:46] <fred__> okay
[12:46] <chimaera> Otis: so post you sources.list
[12:47] <Otis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35492/
[12:47] <Otis> "main" does appear
[12:47] <fred__> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[12:47] <fred__> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[12:47] <fred__> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[12:47] <fred__> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[12:47] <fred__> sorry
[12:47] <Otis> but there's those "universe" lines
[12:47] <Otis> maybe those need enabling ?
[12:48] <chimaera> no, universe is not required for kubuntu
[12:48] <Otis> hm, ok
[12:49] <Otis> hints / clues welcome
[12:49] <Otis> I burned the CD from ubuntu.org yesterday !
[12:49] <chimaera> Otis: list look ok. tried a manual update via "apt-get update"?
[12:49] <Otis> As I said : Edgy Eft
[12:49] <Otis> ok, I go see
[12:50] <Otis> yay !
[12:50] <Otis> chimaera: you got it !
[12:50] <Otis> thanks
[12:51] <chimaera> Otis: np
[12:51] <Otis> chimaera: you're a star
[12:51] <chimaera> Otis: i know. everyone notices ;)
[12:51] <Otis> chimaera: funny really, all these nifty n00b-friendly GUIs for all admin tasks ... they don't do an update after first start !
[12:52] <Otis> chimaera: a last thing ... what's the easiest way of getting rid of gtk/Gnome when I have kde set up ?
[12:53] <scott__> I am looking for a good DVD player for linux....is there one?
[12:53] <Otis> apt-get remove gnome-desktop ?
[12:54] <Otis> or is there a root gnome package that would remove all dependants along with it ?
[12:54] <chimaera> Otis: well, remove the gtk-libs i suppose, but probably you don't want to do that for it removes, of course, everything gtk-related. you might want to try to delete the ubuntu-dektop meta-package and see if the auto-remove function kicks in..
[12:54] <fred__> what does this error mean: Error: unable to locate nvidia kernel driver!
[12:54] <Otis> chimaera: ah, there are a few things we really can't avoid gtk ?
[12:54] <fred__> I installed nvidia-glx
[12:55] <chimaera> scott__: there's tons. check xine, mplayer and their appropriate frontends like kaffeine. i prefer codeine, fast and simple. uses xine.
[12:55] <chimaera> Otis: at least for me there are.
[12:55] <scott__> ok
[12:55] <Otis> chimaera: ok, cheers, it's chugging along nicely now
[12:56] <chimaera> Otis: of course it is ;)
[12:56] <Otis> chimaera: I'm not exactly looking forward to setting up ndiswrapper again
[12:56] <Otis> took me a whole evening once, trawling through the wiki article trying to identify my chipset, getting the right drivers from Links etc
[12:57] <chimaera> Otis: what wifi device are you using?
[12:57] <Otis> WPC45G
[12:57] <Otis> it wor ok once you've got ndiswrapper configured ok and the right driver files
[12:57] <fred__> I followed all the howtos for the nvidia-drivers, but they are not working
[12:58] <chimaera> well, ndiswrapper itself should be no pain. then you have wireless-manager to take care of the rest. i just don't know how it plays along ndiswrapper.
[12:58] <chimaera> s/wireless-manager/network-manager/
[12:58] <Otis> fred__: you sure you don't have more detailed logs from the X server ?
[12:58] <gtwy> im putting kubuntu on a new system tonight
[12:59] <gtwy> which has 2 Intel Xeon QUAD core chips :)
[12:59] <Otis> chimaera: you must be kidding me ! Sure, the apps are ok but they can't guess what drive files to download and they don't identify your chipset for you automatically
[12:59] <gtwy> anyone know any good benchmarking software?
[12:59] <Otis> chimaera: 'cos that's the hard part
[12:59] <Otis> ok, must go to bed
[12:59] <bkudria> can anyone help me get korganizer to upload free/busy info?  i want to upload it to a webdav:// url, but korganizer tells me 'a resource could not be created until one or more intermediate collections (folders) have been created".  Which folders do i need to create?  I am not using Kolab...
[12:59] <Otis> chimaera: thanks for all the help
[12:59] <Otis> wizard: thanks for the help
[01:00] <chimaera> Otis: you're welcome, bye
[01:00] <fred__> no, I don't have any detailed logs
[01:00] <Otis> LjL: thanks for the help
[01:00] <fred__> but...
[01:00] <fred__> do I need to have the .run files from nvidia's website on my computer?
[01:00] <Otis> fred__: the X server provides TONS of information in its log
[01:00] <Otis> fred__: and dmesg ?
[01:00] <fred__> I remember that last time I installed the drivers it was pretty much painless
[01:00] <Otis> fred__: don't nvidia provide a configuration tool while it installs its drivers ?
[01:01] <fred__> no
[01:01] <fred__> I don't believe so
[01:02] <chimaera> yay, netsplit!
[01:04] <melecio_> WINE is the best "emulator" for windows apps? (i've read that is NOT an emulator)
[01:04] <scott__> is wine in the repository?
[01:05] <jbruckman> can anyone help me with a stalled KTorrent?
[01:05] <melecio_> i've already installed WINE
[01:05] <chimaera> jbruckman: try stopping and then resuming it
[01:06] <josh_> hi guys
[01:06] <chimaera> hi
[01:06] <josh_> i need help deciding on a new distro
[01:06] <josh_> i'm just looking around for something that is really well designed
[01:06] <josh_> that has lots of eyecandy
[01:06] <chimaera> well, welcome to #kubuntu for unbiased counceling
[01:07] <josh_> lmao i know
[01:07] <melecio_> i think wine webpage is down, is there any other site where i can find some info and FAQ's? (about wine=
[01:07] <josh_> but do you suggest anything
[01:07] <josh_> yellowdog for playstation 3 looks wicked
[01:07] <josh_> and i dont want XGL
[01:07] <jbruckman> !chimaera I've tried that. I'm on a school network, and i'm trying to forward it through port 80.
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chimaera I've tried that. I'm on a school network, and i'm trying to forward it through port 80. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <chimaera> josh_: just eyecandy-wise?
[01:07] <josh_> and a bit of ease of use
[01:07] <jbruckman> :chimaera I've tried that. I'm on a school network, and i'm trying to forward it through port 80.
[01:07] <josh_> !mezzo
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mezzo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <josh_> nobody knows about mezzo
[01:07] <josh_> it looks nice
[01:08] <josh_> mezzo and e17 are nice desktops
[01:08] <chimaera> jbruckman: oh, i see. you might want to see if ou can use some http-tunneling, but i'm not familiar with that.
[01:08] <josh_> xgl is nice but unstable
[01:08] <jeisma> first of all, how do you know if your drive is mounted? second, if it is mounted, how else do you check for errors (fsck) without damaging the drive?
[01:08] <jbruckman> chimaera
[01:09] <jbruckman> chimaera: I've got a friend who has it working with just the port set to 80 on campus, and he's in my building--he
[01:09] <jbruckman> isn't using any sort of tunnel
[01:09] <chimaera> jbruckman: so have you set the port to 80?
[01:10] <chimaera> josh_: you don't choose your distro based on teh desktop it uses, for any decent distro offers you THOSE ANYWAY.. ^^
[01:10] <chimaera> sry, caps.
[01:10] <jbruckman> chimaera: yes, but all I get is a stalled torrent
[01:10] <josh_> i know
[01:10] <josh_> i just want somthing really clean
[01:10] <josh_> and something that not everybody uses
[01:10] <chimaera> josh_: get debian.
[01:11] <josh_> like kubuntu
[01:11] <chimaera> josh_: sorry, you lost me. btw, everybody knows (k)ubuntu ^^
[01:11] <josh_> look at screens for playstation3 yellowdog
[01:11] <josh_> i'd like something similar to that
[01:12] <josh_> basically, i want the fady stuff and glass toolbars and icons
[01:12] <josh_> except XGL, thats too much
[01:12] <josh_> and dont say windows vista LOL
[01:13] <chimaera> josh_: keep your kubuntu and install beryl.
[01:14] <josh_> i find all linux distros have huge icons
[01:14] <josh_> but does anybody know about mezzo
[01:15] <josh_> i will keep kubuntu
[01:15] <josh_> i'm just looking around for something
[01:15] <bkudria> can anyone help me get korganizer to upload free/busy info?  i want to upload it to a webdav:// url, but korganizer tells me 'a resource could not be created until one or more intermediate collections (folders) have been created".  Which folders do i need to create?  I am not using Kolab...
[01:17] <josh_> oh i know
[01:17] <josh_> a linux that has the look and feel of windows vista/mac os
[01:17] <josh_> cept i have a thing against both
[01:17] <josh_> lol
[01:18] <josh_> #solaris
[01:18] <malik__> hi guyz is there any1 usin opera in kubuntu?
[01:19] <malik__> im usin opera in kubuntu with pretty much default settings but opera is not detecting any plugins......how do i make it work.......its workin okie in konqueror
[01:19] <malik__> plzzzzzzzzz can some one help?
[01:20] <josh_> GUYS I THINK I FOUND IT
[01:20] <josh_> SOLARIS
[01:22] <malik__>  ppl here n now comments abt opera ?
[01:23] <malik__> 330*
[01:26] <flaccid> malik__: if you run from cli is there output?
[01:28] <moj0rising> Does anyone know where I can get some ubuntu-specific Amanda documentation?
[01:28] <moj0rising> For installation and configuration.
[01:33] <hanan> how do I reconfigure my soundcard? I'm thinking along the lines of alsaconf (how I do it under gentoo), but do I have to apt-get something like alsa-utils first?
[01:34] <dom> !sound
[01:34] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[01:36] <hanan> dom, cheers
[01:37] <dom> np, hanan
[01:37] <Murrlin> good evening
[01:38] <Murrlin> (forgot to say thanks last night)
[01:38] <Murrlin> I am wondering what I can use to sweep out all unneeded/unexistant/orphaned menu items (automatically if possible)?
[01:40] <malik__> plzzzzzz can some1 tel me how to install plugins fgor opera?......konqueror is workin just fine but opera cant find any plugins?
[01:40] <malik__> google said install libmotif3 n i did it but no avail
[01:41] <malik__> any ideas guyz?
[01:45] <malik__> im just a newbie guyz.........will appreciate gr8ly if some1 can help
[01:50] <benjaminkip> good morning everyone!
[01:50] <homer> hi, could someone please tell me how to change the font(?)(the letterstyle) of firefox?
[01:51] <flaccid> anybody using gimp 2.3+ ?
[01:51] <homer> cause i dont like the letterstyle of kubuntufirefox
[01:51] <smaggard> hmmm
[01:51] <flaccid> kubuntufirefox?
[01:52] <homer> firefox installed on kubuntu:)
[01:52] <smaggard> when is voice/cam support going to happen in linux? never.........
[01:52] <smaggard> all gaim is worried about is better icons
[01:52] <flaccid> letterstyle?
[01:53] <homer> sorry ,dont know the english word
[01:53] <smaggard> font i think is what hes saying
[01:53] <homer> the way a letter looks like
[01:53] <smaggard> font and point size
[01:53] <homer> is it font? good
[01:53] <smaggard> what country u from homer?
[01:54] <homer> germany
[01:54] <smaggard> cool
[01:54] <pinko> nqkoj ot BG ima li?
[01:54] <smaggard> a exchange student from turkey just broke my heart but i cant get over it haha so i mention it all the time... hey i just mentioned it again.
[01:54] <homer> poor u
[01:54] <smaggard> yeah poor me
[01:54] <smaggard> i need to find a way to get over it
[01:54] <smaggard> lol
[01:55] <pinko> BG?
[01:55] <smaggard> i think firefox just uses the same fonts that kde is setup to use
[01:55] <Jucato> (no, Firefox uses GTK)
[01:55] <homer> ok, cant i have the normal xp font?
[01:55] <pinko> o.k. good night!
[01:55] <benjaminkip> how can I have bible in my kubuntu like edubuntu?
[01:55] <smaggard> hmmm
[01:56] <chimaera> benjaminkip: search your software-management-programm for bible
[01:56] <Jucato> benjaminkip: ask in #edubuntu what those bible-related packages are. then install them
[01:56] <homer> sounds maybe weird , but i have the feeling like i get headache reading with this font
[01:57] <chimaera> benjaminkip: for kde there's bibletime
[01:57] <benjaminkip> okey..
[01:57] <benjaminkip> thanks
[01:57] <benjaminkip> where do i get them
[01:57] <benjaminkip> from adept?
[01:57] <chimaera> whoo, there' slots of bible-related stuff. who would have thought..
[01:57] <chimaera> benjaminkip: yes
[01:58] <benjaminkip> thanks..
[01:58] <benjaminkip>  iam looking into it now
[01:59] <Jucato> you might want to take a look at the sword packages. I think they're bible-related
[01:59] <chimaera> there's even a latex-package for bible references. i'm amazed.
[02:01] <chimaera> benjaminkip: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=13108
[02:01] <Emess> "My OS is feisty" this is going to be good...
[02:01] <Jucato> chimaera: that's available in the repos
[02:02] <Jucato> anything that is on Edubuntu can also be installed in Kubuntu and Edubuntu
[02:02] <chimaera> Jucato: i'm aware of it, it'S about the description.
[02:02] <Jucato> !kio-sword
[02:02] <ubotu> kio-sword: kio-slave for the Sword Bible tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 116 kB, installed size 468 kB
[02:04] <parsek> colors are weird in video, i haven`t installed any video drivers, what should i do
[02:05] <parsek> would any codec help or should i install ati drivers?
[02:06] <homer> where can i deaktivate the jumping icons when i execute a program?
[02:06] <chimaera> parsek: probably a codec problem? which video.formats do you use?
[02:06] <parsek> I use vlc havent installed anything else yet
[02:06] <chimaera> homer: disable application startup notification
[02:06] <parsek> and those are avis
[02:07] <chimaera> parsek: most likely codec-issues.. wait a sec.
where to find?
[02:08] <chimaera> homer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5
[02:09] <Jucato> homer: Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol" then under Appearance & Themes look for Launch Feedback
[02:09] <Ertain> Does anyone know of a good webcam program?  At least, I hope I set this up correctly.
[02:10] <chimaera> oh, the link above was for parsek
[02:11] <parsek> the colors arent like wrong like green is yellow they just look awful, like yellow is more orange shaded but still yellow; but it isnt anything that changes when I adjust brightness or anything like that
[02:11] <parsek> and actually I have installed those w32codes...
[02:12] <chimaera> parsek: install the w32codecs like described at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5
[02:12] <chimaera> oh, i see. tried another player?
[02:12] <parsek> doesnt help
[02:12] <chimaera> probably overlay issues.
[02:12] <parsek> mplayer does that too
[02:12] <parsek> ?
[02:13] <chimaera> video driver related. can't help on this, though.
[02:14] <parsek> its odd because when I first installed kubuntu to this computer it wrked fine
thx...puh was hard to find.translating computerlanguage is not my best ;)
[02:16] <Jucato> :)
[02:16] <nata1> whats the best firewall to use with kubuntu?
[02:16] <majnoon> all of them ??
[02:17] <nata1> the retarded one or just the ones not really giving me a straight answer securitywise?
[02:17] <LjL> !firewall
[02:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[02:17] <nata1> right on
[02:18] <Lothar|ZZZ> !samba
[02:18] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:18] <Lothar|ZZZ> !smbd
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smbd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <homer> okay, who helps me installing "wine" ? i searched a little in adept manager but couldnt find it :(
[02:18] <arielb> yay i dloaded kubuntu and burning cd now
[02:18] <LjL> homer: do you have universe enabled?
[02:18] <rance1> !sound
[02:18] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:18] <arielb> never tried linux before
[02:18] <homer> im gonna look
[02:19] <Murrlin> BeOS!
[02:19] <arielb> i tried beos before
[02:20] <arielb> now can i boot from cd?
....dont know..where to find this setting?
[02:20] <LjL> Ubotu, tell homer about universe | homer, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:20] <LjL> !wine
[02:20] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:27] <arielb> hmm did i burn the cd?
[02:28] <smaggard> can i do !wine too?
[02:29] <smaggard> !wine
[02:29] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:29] <smaggard> wahoooo
[02:29] <arielb> i wonder how good wine is
[02:29] <smaggard> wine is aight, but crossover runs quickbooks :D
[02:30] <arielb> will it run office 2003
[02:32] <majnoon> <<usually has cedega,crossover,AND regular wine
[02:33] <majnoon> crossover SHOULD
[02:33] <arielb> ok time to boot into kubu for first time!
[02:33] <majnoon> !upgrade
[02:33] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[02:33] <majnoon> easy enough I COULD DO IT
[02:36] <flaccid> time for more coffee
[02:37] <flaccid> crossover or cedega aint free :(
[02:39] <Lothar|ZZZ> hei wish to set my ip staticly from console to 192.168.1.10  and also to have the nameservers with it
[02:42] <majnoon> crossover CHEAP and so is cedega
[02:43] <majnoon> and if you want to do cvs if i remember right you CAN get cedega for free too
[02:43] <majnoon> no support though
[02:43] <homer> i think i installed wine :)  thx
[02:43] <ubuntu> oh cool
[02:44] <ubuntu> i'm in kubuntu
[02:46] <otaku-san> do I have to log out and in to get the KBFX menu?
[02:47] <otaku-san> I'm clicking apply but it isn't working
[02:49] <annonm> hi
[02:49] <annonm> hows it going?
[02:51] <arielb> oh no
[02:51] <arielb> i tried kubuntu and it crashed
[02:52] <arielb> didnt take too long :/
[02:55] <LeeJunFan> arielb: hrm, probably a crappy driver. My mailserver has been running for about 240 days now.
[02:55] <LeeJunFan> w/o a reboot.
[02:55] <arielb> i loaded my webpage which had an embedded quicktime video
[02:55] <arielb> i should say i was running it from the cd
[02:56] <LeeJunFan> I've only ever used the CD as a rescue disk to work on windows machine that have files I can't modify/remove from the booted windows system. :/
[02:56] <arielb> even still it shouldn't crash the whole os like that
[02:56] <LeeJunFan> arielb: how did it crash? Just lock up?
[02:56] <arielb> the whole screen went almost completely black
[02:57] <arielb> taskbar messed up
[02:57] <LeeJunFan> arielb: usually when something like that happens it might freeze the display but the core of the OS is still running in the background.
[02:57] <arielb> it was weird
[02:58] <arielb> i wuld think only the app should crash
[02:58] <homer> which codec do i need for amarok or kaffeine to work? there was a warning window but it gone away
[02:58] <homer> audiocodec
[02:58] <Jucato> !libxine-extracodec
[02:58] <majnoon> LeeJunFan: how did you fix it i have same prob every so often
[02:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxine-extracodec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:59] <LeeJunFan> arielb: unfortunately to play videos correctly X pretty much has to give full control to video program in doing so it opens itself up to the bugs the app might have.
[02:59] <cpk1> homer: technically none, it depends on the media you are trying to play
[02:59] <arielb> hmm
[02:59] <homer> wanted to listen to internetradio
[02:59] <LeeJunFan> then you might be able to hit ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X, not the whole system.
[03:00] <LeeJunFan> !libxine-extracodecs
[03:00] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[03:01] <arielb> ok i will try again but i hope it doesn't crash again on my website
[03:01] <LeeJunFan> Jucato: don't feel bad, I normally call build-essentials (with s) :)
[03:01] <Jucato> :)
[03:01] <rance> !sound
[03:01] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[03:02] <arielb> brb
[03:03] <sirjinx> Hi, where can I get info about kxdocker for kubuntu?
[03:04] <flaccid> google
[03:04] <flaccid> http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=kxdocker&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[03:11] <flaccid> mmmm coffee
[03:13] <arielb> back
[03:17] <arielb> ok this has a weird way of changing the time
[03:24] <arielb> how do i set my 3rd and 4th button to go back and foward?
[03:24] <arielb> i have microsoft intellimouse
[03:25] <homer> libxine-extracodecs was the right answer,but it took a looooong time till it was downloaded
[03:25] <flaccid> arielb: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=ubuntu+microsoft+mouse&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[03:27] <greg_> aidiiiiiiii hoooooooooo
[03:28] <greg_> some people was here?
[03:28] <arielb> hmm
[03:29] <arielb> all i found is how to do it through some kind of hack
[03:30] <flaccid> sounds right
[03:31] <Dr_willis> How else you going to become a leet-haxor
[03:31] <arielb> lol
[03:31] <flaccid> m$ don't provide a configuration program or driver for mouses onlinux
[03:31] <arielb> i'm trying to do this for my *mouse*
[03:31] <Dr_willis> What are ya trying to do? I just got here.
[03:31] <arielb> configure my mouse buttons
[03:31] <Dr_willis> to do what........
[03:32] <arielb> back and foward
[03:32] <flaccid> use xmodmap
[03:32] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:32] <arielb> i set the 3rd for back and the 4th for foward
[03:32] <Dr_willis> check the gentoo wiki pages. they have details on that topic.
[03:32] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:32] <Dr_willis> i saw them just the other day
[03:32] <Dr_willis> I never set up the buttons that way.. because i always forget they are set that way
[03:32] <Dr_willis> heh
[03:33] <arielb> i use them all the time for browsing
[03:33] <Dr_willis> Backup your xorg.conf befor altering it. is all i can say. :)
[03:33] <flaccid> i don't know if you will need to put anything in xorg.conf
[03:33] <arielb> well so far i'm running kubu off a cd
[03:33] <flaccid> i did it for my m$ trackball
[03:33] <Dr_willis> I normally use those butons for 'grenades' and 'med packs' in games
[03:33] <arielb> so i expect it to be slow
[03:34] <nata1> is there a way to change the resolution in bash/shell?
[03:34] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  ive seen a combo of xorg tweaking and xmodemap being used
[03:34] <flaccid> ah ok
[03:34] <arielb> (this first time trying linux)
[03:34] <flaccid> i didn it without xorg.conf iirc
[03:34] <flaccid> but yeah cool
[03:34] <nata1> and change the fonts.
[03:34] <flaccid> arielb if vendors like m$ made software for their hardware for *nix then you wouldn't have to 'hack'
[03:35] <Dr_willis> I even had a Logitech Mouse with a Vibrating motor.. for 'force feedback' -
[03:35] <flaccid> i wanna get a logitech trackball. the trackball is for index finger and not thumb
[03:35] <flaccid> hehe
[03:36] <Dr_willis> I will stick with my Logitech MX518 for a long time i think
[03:36] <Dr_willis> its the best mouse ive had..
[03:36] <arielb> my brother wants to get the wii. now wouldn't that controller be useful
[03:36] <flaccid> i acquired a m$ trackball which i'm used ot
[03:36] <Dr_willis> I hear the wii isent that 'accurate' for pointing/cursor movement. :)
[03:36] <flaccid> but my boss bought all new comobo at work
[03:38] <campbch> i'm trying to run a home web server using apache, but i can't ping my machine from another.
[03:39] <campbch> how would i establish this connection? how do i know what the ip address is if i can't ping myself from another computer?
[03:39] <BluesKaj> samba
[03:40] <BluesKaj> remote pc ...nm
[03:40] <homer> whats a good radiorecording software on kubuntu?
[03:40] <SupremeBeing> campbch: You have to have a static IP to host a web server.  Do you?
[03:41] <campbch> hooowww would i know?
[03:41] <SupremeBeing> campbch: Uhh, there's sites that can evaulate it.  I don't know off the top of my head
[03:41] <campbch> even if its not static, can i still determine what it is at this instant?
[03:41] <SupremeBeing> campbch: yeah
[03:41] <campbch> how?
[03:41] <SupremeBeing> campbch: try going to no-ip.org i think it says at the top
[03:42] <flaccid> campbch: establish what connection? you have a look at your interfaces to see what the ip is
[03:42] <flaccid> SupremeBeing: you don't need a static
[03:42] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: oh?
[03:42] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: oh yeah
[03:42] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: it's much easier if you do though :P
[03:42] <flaccid> its better, but not easier
[03:43] <flaccid> whatismyip.com will return the ip address of the host you are on
[03:44] <cs_> hi
[03:44] <flaccid> !apache > campbch
[03:44] <cs_> reinstalled kubuntu, seems i can't boot windows xp at all again
[03:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:44] <flaccid> cs_: thats prolly because it overwrote the mbr on /dev/hda
[03:44] <cs_> yeah, grub took it's place
[03:44] <cs_> it worked before though
[03:44] <Dr_willis> the xp/windows entry in grub dosent have work?
[03:44] <majnoon> flaccid so will ifconfig in linux and ipconfig in windoze
[03:44] <cs_> nope
[03:45] <cs_> says something about invalid device or so even though the partition isn't corrupt or anything
[03:45] <flaccid> yep
[03:45] <cs_> i've never came across this error before
[03:45] <Dr_willis> hmm.. you can mount the windows partitions and see the files on it?
[03:45] <cs_> yes
[03:45] <majnoon> if it not 127.x.x.x or 192.168.xx.xx then that you ip addy
[03:45] <cs_> winxp is on /dev/hda6
[03:45] <flaccid> sounds like invalid grub entry for windows
[03:45] <Dr_willis> hda6 - gesh.
[03:45] <Dr_willis> windows has always been on hda6 ?
[03:45] <cs_> data is on /dev/hda5, linux is /dev/hda1
[03:46] <cs_> yes
[03:46] <flaccid> grub uses disk,partition
[03:46] <Dr_willis> this is a serial drive? or ide?  (im guessing ide)
[03:46] <cs_> ide
[03:47] <cs_> i've had linux on /dev/hda6 before and windows on hda1
[03:47] <campbch> well, i have the IP address, but... it hasnt changed
[03:47] <cs_> no problem
[03:47] <campbch> so its static
[03:47] <campbch> i would think
[03:47] <campbch> ?
[03:47] <campbch> it's 198.111.39.45
[03:47] <Dr_willis> hmm... you reinstalled windows to hda6 eh?
[03:47] <flaccid> its static if it is set static in /etc/network/interfaces or just look in system settings | network
[03:47] <cs_> yeah
[03:47] <campbch> but that doesn't connect to the webpage
[03:47] <Dr_willis> check the /boot/grub/device.map for a start.
[03:48] <flaccid> campbch: read the apache doc
[03:48] <Dr_willis> then check the grub menu.lst and be sure its got the right infor for where windows is supposed to be.
[03:48] <campbch> kk
[03:48] <Dr_willis> wow - i got 7 hard drives in this box. :)
[03:49] <cs_> very weird; i can't 'sudo kate' :\
[03:49] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:50] <kalmah> vim ftw
[03:50] <cs_> heh, just (hd0) /dev/hda
[03:50] <Dr_willis> You only got 1 hard drive eh - heh heh
[03:50] <flaccid> don't sudo kate, use kdesu
[03:50] <Dr_willis> i got hd0 through hd6 :)
[03:51] <rance> can someone help me with a sound card setup problem, I've already read all the docs and I know that the right kernel module is loaded, but still dont have sound.  other distros have sound on this box, but not kubuntu, also aplay -l shows two devices with one snd-card
[03:51] <flaccid> cs_ that doesn't look right at all
[03:51] <campbch> ok, it didnt say anything about how to check... if the port is open
[03:51] <campbch> grr
[03:51] <cs_> i only have one drive :)
[03:51] <cs_> just 3 partitions
[03:51] <Dr_willis> thats his device.map file.
[03:51] <campbch> do i need php, mysql, etc?
[03:51] <flaccid> campbch: netstat -a | grep -i listen
[03:51] <flaccid> cs_: hd(0,2) perhaps
[03:52] <flaccid> campbch: no
[03:52] <Dr_willis> do a sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda and be sure the numbering is right.  rember gub starts counting at 0. so hda6 would be.. err.. hmm... hd(0,5)
[03:52] <Dr_willis> or would it matter if you had primaries befor it.. hmm...
[03:52] <flaccid> not necessarily dr
[03:52] <Dr_willis> I always use all primaries..
[03:52] <Dr_willis> just to avoide these things..
[03:52] <flaccid> yeah
[03:52] <flaccid> need to count it manually
[03:53] <SupremeBeing> can anyone take a look at http://pastebin.ca/268691 (xorg.log) and try to help me with fglrx
[03:54] <campbch> ok, i started it, and used that command
[03:54] <campbch> and it returned http://rafb.net/paste/results/T19uWp53.html  , flaccid
[03:54] <campbch> i dont see 80 in there?
[03:54] <campbch> :(
[03:54] <tony134340> anyone know anything about joystick setup?
[03:54] <cs_> http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/268896
[03:54] <cs_> that's the menu.lst
[03:55] <flaccid> could be this, SupremeBeing: (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found
[03:55] <arielb> ok i had the same crash as before
[03:55] <arielb> screen went black though i could see my pointer
[03:55] <cs_> http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/268899 fdisk's results
[03:56] <arielb> i tried control alt space-didnt do anything
[03:56] <flaccid> campbch: thats coz its a known port in inetd. its listening on all interfaces it appears: tcp        0      0 *:www                   *:*                     LISTEN
[03:57] <campbch> soo..... why is it saying that the connection times out
[03:57] <campbch> ?
[03:57] <campbch> if its listening on that port
[03:57] <campbch> and my ip is 198.111.39.45
[03:57] <campbch> it is, correct?
[03:57] <campbch> how do i check that?
[03:57] <flaccid> ifconfig
[03:57] <FlameMaster> help! I broke Xorg and I'm currently on failsafe mode. I don't remember the command used to reconfigure it, anyone?
[03:57] <flaccid> you won't be able to access your WAN ip usually internally
[03:57] <flaccid> that could be the timeout
[03:57] <flaccid> you need to use the LAN ip internally
[03:57] <Dr_willis> cs_,  see the 'stanza' at the end with   root		(hd0,4), make copies of that whole 'stanza' and try (hd0,3) and (hd0,5)    :) or just edit that line and reboot/tri it
[03:58] <flaccid> ie. 192. or 172. or 10.
[03:58] <campbch> AHAH!
[03:58] <campbch> it gave me the wrong ip addy
[03:58] <flaccid> i'd try wat Dr_willis said but in grub prompt so you don't have to restart more than once
[03:58] <cs_> heh i've actually tried editing that number and booting 3 and 5, same error
[03:58] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  yea - but whats the fun in that! :)
[03:58] <flaccid> cs_: ask in #grub
[03:58] <FlameMaster> please help, my monitor is being all shaky ;_; What is the command used to reconfigure Xorg? I remember I had to use dpkg
[03:59] <Dr_willis> What IS the exact error anyway?
[03:59] <flaccid> hehe
[03:59] <flaccid> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i think
[03:59] <cs_> i will
[03:59] <FlameMaster> flaccid: YES! Thanks a lot!
[04:00] <malik__> hello ppl............can any one help me ?............i cant make opera detct plugins which konqueror is workin just fine with in kubuntu 6.10
[04:00] <campbch> could someone try 172.24.23.165 and tell me what they see?
[04:00] <malik__> i have been tryin to ask for help for a while now.......plzzzzzz help
[04:01] <Dr_willis> malik__,  check the wiki/forums perhaps? I dont use opera. :()
[04:01] <Dr_willis> not  even sure of the proper way to install opera. heh
[04:01] <Dr_willis> !opera
[04:01] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[04:01] <flaccid> malik__: is there output when run from cli?
[04:01] <SupremeBeing> abattoir_: you around?
[04:02] <flaccid> campbch: that address is internal, we won't be able to access it
[04:02] <abattoir_> SupremeBeing: hi, yes
[04:02] <SupremeBeing> abattoir_: I need a few more tips on fglrx :D
[04:02] <SupremeBeing> abattoir_: hello, btw
[04:02] <abattoir_> SupremeBeing: i know next to nothing about it :P
[04:03] <abattoir_> SupremeBeing: never have used an ati card
[04:03] <campbch> how do i find the external address?
[04:03] <malik__> cli?
[04:03] <SupremeBeing> abattoir_: well it's not the fglrx specifics that I've messed up ( I think )
[04:03] <SupremeBeing> abattoir_: I have a pastebin of this "xorg.0.log" thing? That apparently is helpful somehow? :P and I can't interpret it
[04:03] <SupremeBeing> abattoir_: ah ;) lucky you
[04:03] <campbch> flaccid?
[04:04] <abattoir_> SupremeBeing: link?
[04:04] <SupremeBeing> abattoir_: yes, sorry: http://pastebin.ca/268691
[04:05] <flaccid> campbch: depends on your set up. is this box the gateway or is it a router. just goto whatismyip.com
[04:05] <flaccid> !ati ? SupremeBeing and also try #xorg
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati ? SupremeBeing and also try #xorg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <flaccid> !ati > SupremeBeing and also try #xorg
[04:05] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: I have tried 3-4 methods I've read
[04:05] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: Including those, still get the Mesa vendor stuff....
[04:06] <flaccid> yeah there is a fix for that
[04:06] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: You'd think :P i haven't found one
[04:06] <flaccid> i fixedbrb
[04:06] <flaccid> its somewhere
[04:06] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: cool! :D
[04:06] <flaccid> but i mainly worked it out myself to fix it
[04:06] <flaccid> can't remember what i had to do
[04:06] <campbch> does 198.111.39.45 work?
[04:07] <campbch> if that doesn't, what's the next step?
[04:07] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: You worked it out yourself?! you must be a genius =)
[04:07] <campbch> flaccid is busy, holding like 3 conversation threads at once :p
[04:07] <SupremeBeing> indeed :D
[04:09] <bkudria> can anyone help me get korganizer to upload free/busy info?  i want to upload it to a webdav:// url, but korganizer tells me 'a resource could not be created until one or more intermediate collections (folders) have been created".  Which folders do i need to create?  I am not using Kolab...
[04:09] <flaccid> and a phone call and work hehe
[04:09] <SupremeBeing> they've got an awful lot of coffee in Brazil!
[04:09] <campbch> ok, sum of the situation: i am trying to access a webserver from outside the network, i am behind a router, where my internal ip addy is 172.24.23.165 and my external is 198.111.39.45
[04:09] <SupremeBeing> They've got a zillion tons of coffee in Brazil!
[04:09] <flaccid> SupremeBeing: i'll find it for you eventually. busy as thats all
[04:09] <campbch> how do i get through to port 80 on my machine?
[04:10] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: I've got time, no rush =D
[04:10] <flaccid> campbch: port is is not open on that IP addresss
[04:10] <campbch> ? :o
[04:10] <campbch> ok, so how do i open it?
[04:10] <flaccid> is that on the web server or is that the router?
[04:10] <flaccid> cool SB
[04:10] <campbch> 198.111.39.45 is this machine's ip address, the web server
[04:10] <campbch> i dont know what the router is
[04:11] <flaccid> i doubt it
[04:11] <flaccid> you wouldn't have two wan IPs
[04:11] <campbch> i dont
[04:11] <flaccid> usually
[04:11] <flaccid> what is the address from whatismyip.com?
[04:11] <campbch> i have a local , 172.whatever, and a wan, 198.111.39.45
[04:11] <campbch> 198.111.39.45
[04:11] <campbch> from whatismyip.com
[04:11] <flaccid> is your modem bridged onto your computers NIC or is it a separate router?
[04:12] <campbch> im on wireless?
[04:12] <flaccid> right
[04:12] <campbch> :(
[04:12] <campbch> it should still be possible, i would think?
[04:12] <flaccid> in that case its probably port forwarding required on your router to the LAN ip of the web server
[04:12] <campbch> ethernet is not available
[04:12] <campbch> so i cant do it without access to the router?
[04:12] <flaccid> the port is closed atm
[04:13] <flaccid> well your router probably has a firewall
[04:13] <flaccid> and yes needs the port forward
[04:13] <campbch> can i have it listen and send requests to a port that is open?
[04:13] <flaccid> yes but you would still need the forward if its not routed or nat'd
[04:13] <campbch> like, can i use the other browser to look for 198.dfjlajsdfas.:openport?
[04:13] <SupremeBeing> abattoir: Still got that 2 minute lag? =)
[04:14] <flaccid> i'm port scanning your ip, nothing is found to be open so far....
[04:14] <campbch> :o
[04:14] <flaccid> campbch: i don't know what you mean?
[04:15] <campbch> i can get web pages fine on this computer, and if no ports are open, that means that i would not be able to get web pages?
[04:15] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: is this the method you used? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143283&page=3
[04:15] <computer> hi ya people
[04:15] <SupremeBeing> computer: Hi
[04:15] <towync> hi =)
[04:15] <flaccid> campbch: yeah . you need to understand networking.
[04:15] <campbch> .
[04:15] <SupremeBeing> towync: =)
[04:15] <flaccid> internal access is ok, but external is not due to requiring a port forward
[04:15] <Dr_willis> 'become one with the network, take the blue pill!'
[04:15] <towync> SupremeBeing =)
[04:15] <abattoir> SupremeBeing: ocassionally ;)
[04:15] <towync> Jucato is signed on too hehe
[04:15] <towync> hi abattoir =)
[04:15] <SupremeBeing> abattoir: dial up? I'm sorry :P
[04:15] <abattoir> hi towync :)
[04:15] <towync> thx for the help yesterday
[04:16] <abattoir> SupremeBeing: no, a 30Mbit connection, i believe
[04:16] <SupremeBeing> abattoir: :O
[04:16] <SupremeBeing> abattoir: I'd sue!!
[04:16] <towync> lol
[04:16] <campbch> well, the way i see it, apache is listening on port 80 on my machine, but if i can send and recieve, say, IRC messages there must be some communication through that port, can i switch apache to that port and tell the other browser to go to the port that is already being forwarded to the port that would be otherwise using irc?
[04:16] <abattoir> well, i don't know how much of it is freenode's fault
[04:16] <SupremeBeing> towync: abattoir is god, no?
[04:16] <abattoir> lol?
[04:16] <towync> of course =)
[04:16] <campbch> something like 198.24.23.321:60
[04:16] <flaccid> SupremeBeing: maybe. but i found that i had to do different stuff. i did it manually and not by stuffing around with packages.
[04:16] <SupremeBeing> =D
[04:16] <campbch> or whatever's open
[04:16] <Jucato> yeah abattoir is god :)
[04:17] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: ah, well i'm going to try this way real quick, and i'll be back
[04:17] <towync> hi Jucato
[04:17] <flaccid> campbch: no you can't.
[04:17] <Jucato> hi towync
[04:17] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: You gonna be around?'
[04:17] <campbch> no? :(
[04:17] <flaccid> yeah i should be. lunch soon
[04:17] <flaccid> yes no, campbch
[04:17] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: Lunch. wow lol, it's10pm here
[04:17] <flaccid> its 2:17pm here
[04:17] <SupremeBeing> abattoir, towync, flaccid, brb :)
[04:17] <towync> *dinner afk*
[04:18] <flaccid> wow gimp 2.3 rox
[04:21] <campbch> owell, thanks flaccid
[04:21] <flaccid> you must be at work or school or something, campbch?
[04:24] <binary2k2> hi, i'm having a problem with firefox 2.0 on edgy, just shows this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35514/
[04:24] <flaccid> is that on a specific page in the page binary2k2?
[04:25] <flaccid> or error dialog
[04:25] <binary2k2> it's the error dialog that shows when I try to open firefox
[04:26] <flaccid> ok. checkout http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=opera&rls=en&hs=W5m&q=XML+Parsing+Error%3A+undefined+entity+Location+chrome+firefox+2&btnG=Search
[04:27] <flaccid> i think it could be time for a big mac
[04:27] <campbch> oh no
[04:27] <campbch> you want a whopper
[04:27] <campbch> :o
[04:27] <campbch> or panera bread
[04:29] <flaccid> w0a did i just write big mac
[04:29] <flaccid> i actually meant to write whopper
[04:29] <flaccid> hungry jacks like 2 blocks away
[04:29] <campbch> :o
[04:30] <campbch> <- shift managing @mcdonalds ftl
[04:30] <campbch> pays for college until an internship becomes a valid option
[04:31] <Dr_willis> Ya want fries with that?
[04:31] <campbch> :p
[04:31] <Dr_willis> 'would you care to supersize that glutton bucket sir?'
[04:31] <Dr_willis> 'extra lard! yes sir!'
[04:31] <campbch> i dont flip burgers, i do paperwork while telling people how to flip burgers
[04:31] <Dr_willis> 'shall i schedule your heart attack now, or do you want it to be a suprise?'
[04:32] <campbch> and i fix the registers :( it's sad when fixing POS POSs is the best that can happen to you in a week
[04:35] <flaccid> i got a free POS yesterday
[04:36] <campbch> :p what brand?
[04:37] <campbch> you can probably do some interesting hacks with a pos
[04:37] <Dr_willis> they had a bunch of blade racks and other parts on the docks at work today. :) dident see anything worth... 'testing' :)
[04:37] <flaccid> squirrel
[04:37] <Dr_willis> Plus i wanted to keep my job...
[04:37] <flaccid> hehe
[04:38] <flaccid> i just wanna use the screens
[04:38] <SupremeBeing> very sorry all... I screwed up
[04:38] <Dr_willis> They tossed out a lot of crt's the other day... i 'aquired' a lot of spare power cables from them.
[04:38] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:38] <Dr_willis> like i NEED more of those.
[04:38] <flaccid> hehe yeah
[04:38] <flaccid> PSU cables
[04:38] <flaccid> time for whopper
[04:38] <flaccid> bbs
[04:39] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: that guide said to remove linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r), but that didn't do anything, so I removed the common ones
[04:39] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: and now it won't boot!! :P
[04:39] <flaccid> i don't even think you need to do that
[04:39] <flaccid> dang
[04:39] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: Probably not lol, but now I gotta reinstall kubuntu
[04:39] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: I'm on the live CD now
[04:40] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: did you figure out the correct way to do it yet?
[04:40] <flaccid> should be something you  can do without reinstall
[04:40] <flaccid> i can't figure it out, because i've already done it
[04:40] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: oh lol, that wasn't in the guide, the reinstall - that was cuz I f***** up
[04:40] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: it wasn't supposed to happen like this!
[04:40] <flaccid> its just another annoying bug in linux land
[04:40] <jefri> helo there, i just installed kubuntu in my desktop and its nice
[04:40] <flaccid> bbs
[04:41] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: yeah... I'll give you 20 more minutes to figure it out xD - by then i'll have it installed and running again
[04:41] <SupremeBeing> jefri: it is nice isn't it
[04:42] <jefri> yupe
[04:42] <jefri> and now  i trying to install beryl
[04:42] <jefri> wish me luck
[04:42] <SupremeBeing> jefri: hope you don't have the annoying ati drivers to deal with that I do =P
[04:42] <SupremeBeing> jefri: yuck
[04:42] <SupremeBeing> jefri: luck* =P
[04:42] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: Is there a way to replace a package in recovery mode without an internet connecton?  can I use the kubuntu cd as a repository?
[04:43] <towync> SupremeBeing you can use cd as repos i think, but not the one for install i think
[04:43] <SupremeBeing> towync: damn... guess i gotta reinstall huh
[04:44] <SupremeBeing> towync: =P
[04:44] <towync> SupremeBeing probably, what happened
[04:44] <SupremeBeing> towync: I uninstalled something I shouldn't have
[04:44] <SupremeBeing> towync: linux-restricted-modules-common
[04:44] <towync> SupremeBeing o hehe
[04:44] <SupremeBeing> towync: lol... i'm so retarded
[04:45] <towync> SupremeBeing you might wanna ask more people tho, before you actually reinstall, i'm not too knowledgable =)
[04:45] <SupremeBeing> towync: it's not a big deal, I can get back to where I was before in about 5 minutes
[04:45] <SupremeBeing> towync: Haven't got settled in much yet :D
[04:45] <towync> SupremeBeing but i think if u had another comp with internet connection, you can download the repo to that comp, make a cd, and pop it in
[04:45] <SupremeBeing> towync: it'd actually be quicker to reinstall at this point haha
[04:45] <towync> SupremeBeing cool =) i actually reinstalled once too
[04:46] <towync> SupremeBeing haha, that's cool
[04:46] <SupremeBeing> towync: all I gotta do is click this little icon =D
[04:46] <towync> SupremeBeing and then we'd see you gone from this channel =(
[04:46] <SupremeBeing> towync: this is cool, didn't think I would have internet on the live  CD, but I do!
[04:46] <towync> SupremeBeing hehe nice
[04:46] <SupremeBeing> towync: ya xD
[04:47] <SupremeBeing> towync: I wonder if my internet will stay thruout the installation
[04:49] <SupremeBeing> gosh  Kubuntu installs fast... 3:39 remaining and i just started it!!
[04:49] <SupremeBeing> <3
[04:49] <SupremeBeing> towync: would you recommend upgrading to edgy before I work more on fglrx?
[04:51] <SupremeBeing> anybody? =P
[04:52] <towync> SupremeBeing o sorry, I was gone for hw abit hehe
[04:52] <towync> SupremeBeing I think edgy might be good
[04:52] <towync> SupremeBeing but I haven't gotten Beryl worked out on edgy yet, so I wouldn't be the right person to ask =
[04:53] <towync> =)
[04:53] <SupremeBeing> towync: ahh
[04:53] <towync> SupremeBeing ya hehe =)
[04:53] <SupremeBeing> towync: I think i read that it's harder to get xorg and fglrx to get along on edty, but I don't reallyy know
[04:54] <towync> SupremeBeing that might be true i guess, since i'm having trouble with beryl too, i'm using kubuntu edgy, but i think that was mostly cuz of me merging abunch of command lines together in the beginning and then did a little mixing of my own, and voila, beryl doesn't work
[04:54] <SupremeBeing> towync: heheh that's what I did the first time I had to reinstall
[04:54] <towync> SupremeBeing so maybe stick with dapper then =)
[04:55] <SupremeBeing> towync: I tried to make my own kernel and then upgrade to edgy via cmd line, and BOOM it won't boot =D
[04:55] <towync> SupremeBeing yeah hehe i guess it's lesson learned for the both of us lol =)
[04:56] <SupremeBeing> towync: indeed :)
[04:56] <SupremeBeing> !fglrx > supremebeing
[04:57] <SupremeBeing> towync: K, installation done, i'm going to reboot real fast and fix this :)
[04:57] <towync> SupremeBeing cool, go od luck =)
[04:57] <towync> good*
[04:57] <SupremeBeing> towync: Thx =D
[04:59] <King_Brad> how do i change the amount of colors used for my display in KDE?
[04:59] <King_Brad> i tried in the display thingie in system settings but its not there....
[05:00] <jefri> hmmm, why my lcd display tend to blur? as if there is no anti aliasing feature
[05:02] <SupremeBeing> towync: =)
[05:02] <King_Brad> SupremeBeing: do you know where i would go to change the amount of colors my display uses?
[05:02] <towync> SupremeBeing congrats
[05:02] <King_Brad> from like 16bit to 32bit and etc?
[05:02] <SupremeBeing> King_Brad: your graphics card config utility?
[05:02] <towync> SupremeBeing afk hw again =)
[05:03] <SupremeBeing> towync: ahh i'm so glad i don't have hw today
[05:03] <SupremeBeing> towync: what grade?
[05:03] <King_Brad> SupremeBeing: um, dont know where thats at
[05:03] <SupremeBeing> King_Brad: Hmmm, let me look
[05:03] <SupremeBeing> King_Brad: ok I found it
[05:04] <SupremeBeing> King_Brad: go to system settings, then under Hardware, then Display
[05:04] <ct12am> Is sudoers the group I need to add my user to to sudo or the sudoers file?
[05:04] <King_Brad> SupremeBeing: tried
[05:04] <King_Brad> its not there
[05:05] <SupremeBeing> King_Brad: what's not there?
[05:05] <ct12am> Because my user didn't have permission to write to the sound device, so I added my user to a group and solved that, but I still have more issues, like not being able to mount my flashdrive
[05:05] <King_Brad> the option to change my color depth
[05:05] <SupremeBeing> King_Brad: try appearence
[05:05] <King_Brad> tried there too
[05:05] <King_Brad> not there
[05:06] <ct12am> So, in addition to sudo access, I'd like my user to have proper permissions, I dunno what went wrong, I have one user account with appropriate permissions and one that's bunk.
[05:06] <SupremeBeing> King_Brad: I see
[05:06] <King_Brad> no clue where i do it now :(
[05:07] <SupremeBeing> King_Brad: well you stumped me :/ the way I did it was through my video card config utility
[05:07] <SupremeBeing> King_Brad: but if you don't have a stand alone vid card, I don't know what to do
[05:07] <SupremeBeing> !colordepth
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about colordepth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:08] <King_Brad> SupremeBeing: i have a nvidia geforce4 mx440 installed
[05:08] <King_Brad> i dont have the drivers from nvidia installed tho
[05:08] <King_Brad> just the ones that come with kubuntu...
[05:08] <SupremeBeing> King_Brad: Try that, or give it a google :P you stumped me
[05:09] <King_Brad> k thx
[05:11] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: back yet?
[05:14] <flaccid> yeah
[05:14] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: any luck remembering?
[05:15] <flaccid> no chance
[05:15] <mortici> xsacha, thank you for providing the patches to the svn :D
[05:16] <xsacha> which one?
[05:16] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: darn
[05:16] <mortici> both 3d.c and showdesktop.c
[05:17] <mortici> :)
[05:17] <mortici> now it works like a beaut :D
[05:17] <xsacha> :P
[05:17] <xsacha> by the way, scale plugin already correctly used wmType
[05:17] <mortici> excelent
[05:18] <mortici> i think there was one more plugin that had the issue but i don't remember what
[05:21] <mortici> i think window grouper had the problem, or wait when you pressed f7 or f6 lemme see if it still does it
[05:21] <mortici> no it doesnt
[05:21] <mortici> nvm
[05:22] <mortici> xsacha, what is the super button?
[05:22] <xsacha> windows key
[05:22] <mortici> hmmm mine doesn't work :P
[05:22] <xsacha> check xmodmap
[05:22] <xsacha> what is your mod4 line when you check:  xmodmap
[05:23] <SupremeBeing> WOOT OMGOSH WOOT I DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:23] <mortici> super_l and Hyper_L
[05:23] <xsacha> so left windows key works mortici?
[05:24] <mortici> hmm no im trying the screenshot plugin and super + 1 does nothing
[05:24] <xsacha> can you zoom with super + scroll ?
[05:24] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: HAHA WOOT!!
[05:24] <SupremeBeing> towync: YAYAYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! woot =D
[05:24] <xsacha> mortici: super
[05:24] <xsacha> mortici: super + 1 is also default key for group select
[05:25] <mortici> nope
[05:26] <flaccid> sweet SB, what did it
[05:26] <mortici> nvm
[05:26] <xsacha> mortici: what does: xev     say your windows key is? :S
[05:26] <mortici> lol if i hold super + 1
[05:26] <benjaminkip> hi  there everyone
[05:26] <mortici> it zooms
[05:26] <xsacha> ehhh super + 1 is set to zoom? :S
[05:26] <mortici> yes how do i set it to scroll
[05:27] <xsacha> super + 4 and super + 5 is the scroll
[05:27] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: I have no idea, fresh install, followed guide exactly, and BOOM it works!
[05:27] <flaccid> yeah i think i might have done it by accident too..
[05:28] <flaccid> watch out but
[05:28] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: Lol, hope I never have to do it again
[05:28] <flaccid> if you change xorg or other stuff it will go back to mesa
[05:28] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: will I have to go through all that again if I upgrade to edgy?
[05:28] <flaccid> hopefully not
[05:28] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: phew
[05:28] <flaccid> but i woudn't be suprised if edgy tried to give a new xorg.conf
[05:28] <flaccid> can someone confirm that?!
[05:29] <benjaminkip> does any know if they have recording and editing software on Kubuntu?
[05:29] <mortici> xsacha, now it works :)
[05:29] <flaccid> yes i know benjaminkip
[05:29] <benjaminkip> oh really
[05:29] <flaccid> audacity
[05:29] <benjaminkip> can you please let me know
[05:29] <flaccid> rosegarden
[05:29] <flaccid> depends what you want
[05:29] <xsacha> mortici: :) if you want your righthand super key to work too:         xmodmap -e "add mod4 = Super_R"
[05:30] <benjaminkip> I have krec but does not work
[05:30] <benjaminkip> actually like you know soundforge type
[05:30] <benjaminkip> recording and editing
[05:30] <SupremeBeing> benjaminkip: Just a word of advice, look in adept, there's probably 20
[05:31] <mortici> quick question any reason why i would get a API mismatch when i install the nvidia drivers, i tried installing the suo apt-get nvidia-glx way, which it did install but then it can't find the driver, so i did a manual install and every time i boot up it says i have a API mismatch, i then have to re run the nvidia installer and then startx and then it will work
[05:31] <benjaminkip> thank
[05:31] <SupremeBeing> benjaminkip: np
[05:32] <abattoir> benjaminkip: if you just want normal wave editing, kwave should do
[05:32] <abattoir> benjaminkip: take a look at rosegarden if you need a bit more advanced stuff
[05:32] <abattoir> benjaminkip: jokosher is up and coming too
[05:33] <flaccid> rosegarden is a sequencer. audacity is an editor.
[05:33] <benjaminkip> oic
[05:33] <SupremeBeing> abattoir: I did it! =)
[05:33] <abattoir> SupremeBeing: reinstalled? or got ati working?
[05:33] <SupremeBeing> abattoir: both!
[05:34] <abattoir> SupremeBeing: cool :)
[05:34] <SupremeBeing> abattoir: I did a fresh install, then followed steps exactly, and *wow* works
[05:34] <flaccid> pity about the fresh install but what can you do..
[05:34] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: Ah no biggie, i had done one last night also
[05:34] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: i seem to think I know more than I do, so i do stupid stuff
[05:35] <flaccid> its like that until you get on top of it
[05:35] <flaccid> now i dont ever stuff up a *nix install
[05:35] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: hehe
[05:35] <flaccid> unlucky the old days..
[05:35] <flaccid> unlucky = unlike
[05:35] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: this is good tho, i'm learning bash at an accelerated rate
[05:37] <SupremeBeing> oh yeah, what's the command to bring up the little fglrx test?
[05:39] <unix_infidel> did they go a head and have the ubunt-classroom session on systems administration...
[05:39] <unix_infidel> the website hasnt been updated, so i'm not sure whether something went down or not.
[05:39] <unix_infidel> nor are the transcripts posted....so...
[05:41] <flaccid> fglrxinfo
[05:41] <soaa> hello all
[05:42] <SupremeBeing> flaccid: I meant glxgears, found it
[05:42] <soaa> is that package 'knetworkmanager' supposed to work?
[05:42] <flaccid> ok
[05:42] <flaccid> glxinfo as well
[05:42] <soaa> because it doesn't work for me, am i missing something?
[05:42] <flaccid> !knetworkmanager
[05:42] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 213 kB, installed size 1448 kB
[05:43] <flaccid> why doesn't it work?
[05:43] <soaa> it tries to connect, and fails all the time
[05:43] <soaa> note that NetworkManager used to work fine, but it died ever since I switched to KDE
[05:43] <flaccid> why does it fail?
[05:44] <soaa> it says connecting, then it disappears and reappears without connecting
[05:44] <soaa> it's the same thing whether i use the gnome or kde frontend
[05:44] <soaa> note that wired works fine
[05:44] <flaccid> check logs
[05:45] <soaa> which?
[05:45] <flaccid> um
[05:45] <flaccid> relevant ones in /var/log/
[05:45] <soaa> hmm
[05:46] <soaa> i checked and it didn't help, from what i recall
[05:46] <soaa> i'm on Windows right now
[05:46] <flaccid> so you checked /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog
[05:46] <flaccid> did you also run it from cli to see errors?
[05:47] <soaa> no, i didn't try that
[05:47] <soaa> but i checked those logs
[05:48] <soaa> do you have MSN?  perhaps you can help me out tomorrow, i have to go now
[05:54] <SupremeBeing> anybody know the default location of the primary cdrom?
[05:56] <imbrandon>  /media/cdrom0
[05:56] <SupremeBeing> ah I found it, hdc, thanks tho
[05:57] <kamui> is there an ftp client with SSL support?
[05:57] <imbrandon> kamui: try sftp ( secure / ssh ftp ) , requires a ssh server ( e.g. no plain ftp for use with ssl )
[05:58] <kamui> imbrandon: I actually need an ftp client with ssl support ot connect to a ssl ftp set up at work
[05:58] <kamui> all I can think of is flashfxp in windows
[05:58] <kamui> or smartftp in windows
[05:58] <kamui> neither of which works well in wine
[05:58] <imbrandon> ahh try konqueror then or gftp
[05:59] <kamui> gftp doesn't seem to support ssl
[05:59] <nightpeople> kamui: lftp supports ssl
[05:59] <kamui> ill try that
[06:01] <cs_> no, i didn't get the windows problem sorted yet
[06:01] <cs_> but is there a way i can output sound to the sound blaster live instead of the onboard sound?
[06:06] <nightpeople> need help with k3b. i set up kubuntu for a friend. works great! initially k3b worked great. now suddenly k3b starts but the process gets stuck in a D state and I have no idea why. can't find any clues the log files nor has google. any ideas where to look?
[06:06] <dennister> howdy pps...anyone been able to get word 2003 installed under wine?
[06:07] <gtwy> grbu wont boot, giving me error code 22
[06:07] <tchough> dennister: i haven't tried, but your best bet is to look up word 2003 in the application db at http://www.winehq.org/
[06:07] <gtwy> just did an install
[06:07] <dennister> nightpeople: i'd love to get cdrecord and cdrao (for k3b) too
[06:08] <dennister> tchough: yes, I've been working through that site, the part that's up, anyway...large portions of server are down at the moment
[06:09] <dennister> and the wine irc channel is mostly dead
[06:10] <jhutchins> dennister: irc is totally dead.  What are you, a nerd?  Get out and get face time with some real people!
[06:11] <nightpeople> dennister: gather you've had no luck then either. everything thing great to start. if i could find something helpful in the logs it'd be a start. that or another app which will burn cds for him.
[06:11] <dennister> lol...it's after midnight here in toronto
[06:11] <eMish> if i clone myself, two of us will be real people
[06:11] <jhutchins> um.  cdrecord?  k3b?
[06:12] <dennister> oh, my drive wil burn all right...that's not a problem, what is a problem is mythtv working with cdrecord and cdrao...can't seem to change the permissions for cdrecord and cdrao
[06:12] <tchough> dennister: oh, i didn't know... i've never tried setting up word 2003
[06:12] <jhutchins> Ah.
[06:12] <nightpeople> jhutchins: cdrecord = cd-r burning program. k3b = pretty frontend for cdrecord
[06:12] <tchough> gtwy: so are you on another machine right now?
[06:13] <dennister> eMish: but r u in toronto?
[06:14] <dennister> yes, so the frontend, k3b works, backend has probs on its own
[06:15] <nightpeople> dennister: hmm... the opposite of my problem. wonder if we merged ours ... :-)
[06:16] <dennister> heheheh...i think my prob is that cdrecord and cdrao are looking for the wrong devices...i only have one, which k3b recognizes can do it all
[06:20] <draik> I have a digital camera with a 2GB SD card...
[06:20] <dennister> oh yes nightpeople? any bright ideas?
[06:20] <draik> seems that I can't read from it.
[06:20] <draik> Camera is asking me to format.
[06:20] <draik> I have pictures in there that I would like to have.
[06:21] <draik> Is there a way for me to get the pictures from the SD card without formatting?
[06:22] <nightpeople> dennister: wonder if that could be *my* problem (looking for wrong device)... hrm... originally it was looking at /media/cdrom0, which is great if there is disc in the drive. if there is no disc, don't believe /media/cdrom0 exists.
[06:23] <draik> Jucato: You here???
[06:23] <Jucato> just arrived
[06:23] <draik> :(
[06:23] <draik> Maybe you might be able to help me out
[06:23] <nightpeople> it might explain k3b hanging in the D state
[06:23] <Jucato> do you have a card reader for that?
[06:24] <Jucato> er.. what exactly can't read it? Kubuntu or your Camera?
[06:24] <draik> No. I have it connected through USB
[06:24] <draik> Both
[06:24] <Jucato> hm... something might be wrong with the card if the camera can't even read it
[06:24] <draik> Kubuntu can't read it and the camera is suggesting that I format the SD card, but I don't want to lose the pictures from my trip to Texas
[06:25] <draik> My girlfriend and her cousin were just looking at the pictures and turned it off. Later on today, my girlfriend went to see the pictures and was unable to do anything.
[06:25] <Jucato> you're quite in a pickle... the card itself might be having my some problems
[06:25] <dennister> for me, it's strange, in kcontrol only root seems to have priviledges for cdrao and cdrecord, which are app commands; i don't know how to change permissions for commands so that they will live past a reboot
[06:26] <draik> Jucato: PLEASE tell me there is a way around this
[06:26] <draik> I know you know of a way around this
[06:26] <dennister> perhaps i should be making a symbolic link from these to /usr/local? no...that wouldn't change the permissions of the commands
[06:26] <Jucato> I wish I could tell you... unfortunately I don't know..
[06:27] <draik> what should I be googling?
[06:27] <Jucato> try to Google for the error message that the camera is giving you
[06:28] <draik> hmmm
[06:28] <draik> ok... time to duplicate the error
[06:28] <draik> brb
[06:30] <nightpeople> dennister: what group owns cdrao and cdrecord? i don't have my friend's machine here and my laptop doesn't have it installed. but i seem to recall that was set for another group which I added my friend to
[06:31] <drarem> i recently upgraded to 6.10, but it is booting to a prompt
[06:31] <drarem> i can log in, under tty1 - tty6
[06:31] <drarem> but somehow am not getting the kde to start up
[06:33] <nightpeople> dennister: i believe it was the cdrecord group
[06:33] <dennister> nightpeople: root is the owner and the group
[06:33] <nightpeople> dennister: oops.. meant cdrom group
[06:34] <dennister> ok...i think i tried to get it switched in kcontrol to cdrom...didn't help the myth problem, mythtv not being able to get permission for it, even though it had permissions for cdrom
[06:35] <tchough> draik: you definitely don't want to lose pictures from texas!
[06:36] <draik> tchough: I am from California. I fell in love with SATX when I went to go visit my girlfriend's family for thanksgiving
[06:36] <nightpeople> dennister: okay. did you try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure cdrecord
[06:37] <dennister> ok, i think i know why the fronet end can burn, but backend commands can't...clue is in permiisions of the device vs those of the commands in kcontrol
[06:37] <dennister> i'll try that terminal command, nightpeople
[06:38] <tchough> draik: san antonio is a great city... you should visit austin some time if you're in the area again.  it has a very unique atmosphere that a lot of people find appealing
[06:39] <dennister> nightpeople: that may have done the trick for cdrecord anyway
[06:39] <draik> tchough: I was going to be visiting Austin, but my gf's brother is 20 and could't go so my gf decided to just stay home and drink (under supervision for her brother)
[06:39] <draik> I was out there for a week
[06:40] <draik> Nov 20-27
[06:40] <nightpeople> dennister: cool! half the problem solved maybe
[06:40] <draik> If I would have known a tux was out there, I would have hit you up for spots
[06:41] <draik> Jucato: Nothing.
[06:41] <dennister> and the group for cdrecord, in kcontrol, is now cdrom...in the permissions column...the new permissions column is still root:root
[06:41] <dennister> how how to do the same for cdrdao and growisofs?
[06:43] <dennister> and i won't be able to test it with mythtv for a few days anyway...i'm waiting for a new tuner to come from hauppauge, NY
[06:44] <nightpeople> dennister: what does  ls -l /usr/bin/cdrecord  show for the owner/group?  root/root or root/cdrom?
[06:44] <Jucato> draik: sorry dude, I have no ideas :(
[06:44] <draik> I think I might have found something...
[06:44] <draik> I hope this works
[06:44] <dennister> but ty very much nightpeople :) myyth was only complaining about cdrecord, anyway
[06:45] <dennister> -rwsr-xr-- 1 root cdrom
[06:46] <dennister> of course, i still have my msoffice disk in the drive now...i'll take it out, as wine doesn't want to install it
[06:47] <nightpeople> dennister: looks like you got it and least far as cdrecord goes. the user has to be in the cdrom group in order to execute cdrecord. this maybe be all you needed if it was mythtv's only complaint
[06:48] <Endler> You here Jucato?
[06:48] <Jucato> yes I'm here. but I don't have that problem you mentioned
[06:48] <Endler> In case anyone else does:
[06:48] <Endler> Does anyone else have the problem of their system hanging on shutdown if splash is enabled.  I was pulling my hair out thinking it was an acpi problem, but it shuts down 100% of the time when I have don't use the splash boot option.
[06:49] <tony134340> anyone know how to control sound while in game?
[06:49] <Endler> I wonder if it has something to do with X switching video modes
[06:49] <Endler> It never gets to the shutdown splash.  Just a black screen.
[06:50] <dennister> well, it was a stubborn complaint...but my biggest problem was the IR blaster for the wintv-pvr 250 was never designed to transmit signals to the setopbox...it only received...so that's way it was returned in favour of the wintv-pvr 150
[06:50] <Endler> That's why I didn't know my shutdown problems was a splash problem and not an acpi problem.
[06:50] <nightpeople> Endler: mine does it randomly with a kubuntu-installed kernel. my own compiled ones work fine. have yet to figure what why
[06:50] <dennister> other than my being forced to manually change channels with the setop box's remote, it was wokring nicely
[06:51] <kamui> anyone familiar with lftp?  It got me onto my work ftp (ssl only), but when I try to get files, I get this odd delaying... reconnect in 40 seconds crap, then it just repeats without grabbing teh files I want.  I can browse the ftp sites files fine however
[06:51] <Jucato> O.o
[06:51] <Endler> night:  Yours is a splash problem too?
[06:52] <Endler> Do you still have the stock kernal avail on your menu?
[06:52] <nightpeople> Endler: yup, only on my laptop, an old compaq presario p2/333
[06:52] <dennister> Endler: why do you want the splash anyway? i don't, i like the verbose bootup so i can see any possible problems without necessarily going through all the logs
[06:53] <Endler> Because it's not my machine.
[06:53] <Endler> Installed it for someone else--a non techie.
[06:54] <dennister> ahhh and the user wants the pretty splash hding all the scripts?
[06:54] <Endler> The splash works fine on bootup.
[06:54] <nightpeople> dennister: gl with the myth. i want to play with it eventually but haven't had the time
[06:54] <Endler> only a problem at shutdown.
[06:54] <Endler> The non-quiet splash is a good compromise.
[06:54] <dennister> nightpeople: it's MUCH easier with edgy
[06:55] <nightpeople> kamui: i often get the reconnect message if the site if busy or a bad connection. usually disconnecting and reconnecting fixes it for me
[06:55] <Endler> but it hangs on shut down when I have it set that way too.
[06:55] <Endler> Is there a way to use splash on startup, but not on shutdown?
[06:56] <dennister> well it's almost one a.m here in toronto...i should toddle off to bed...glad i could get one thing fixed, thx to nightpeople
[06:56] <dennister> good night all
[06:56] <Endler> Night
[06:56] <kamui> nightpeople: I might have gotten lucky, I used mget this time and I got an immediate download
[06:56] <kamui> :)
[06:56] <kamui> thanks for your help, I would have been screwed if you hadn't suggested this
[06:57] <nightpeople> Endler: yes, i still have the stock kernel available on my menu. for some reason the wireless works with the stock kernel but is flaky with my compiled one. my fault really. i haven't had a chance to figure just where.
[06:57] <kamui> really didn't want to have to dualboot windows in order to just to connect to the work ftp
[06:57] <kamui> well, bbl
[06:57] <nightpeople> dennister: glad to help. have fun with myth
[06:58] <Endler> Night: Try removing the splash option for the stock kernel boot option to see if it's splash causing your problem.
[06:58] <Endler> I'll bet a lot of people have the problem and think it's an acpi problem.
[06:58] <draik> Jucato: Nope. I seem to have been able to access something on the SD card, but no pictures
[06:58] <nightpeople> Endler: will try that, but not now or i'll "be off the air" :)
[06:59] <Endler> K, I'll check back with you.  Are you using an ATI card?
[07:00] <nightpeople> Endler: mine could well be acpi problem, the machine is old enough. can't complain too much when the Free Hardware Fairy delivers presents. :)
[07:00] <nightpeople> neomagic in this laptop
[07:01] <draik> Camera still wants me to format SD card
[07:01] <Endler> There haven't been any bios updates issued for this machine is since 2003, so it could easily have been an acpi problem, but  I guess that's working fine.
[07:04] <nightpeople> heheh... got you beat. think this machine dates to c.1999.
[07:05] <Endler> Well, the hard drive I replaced in this machine before installing Kubuntu was from '99. :)
[07:06] <nightpeople> i'm still using the original 4g drive. i have a whole 800 meg free :) eventually I'll get a bigger drive.
[07:07] <mortici> which java should i install?
[07:07] <mortici> blackdown? or sun systems?
[07:08] <Endler> Well, now would be a good time to run out and pick up one of those Christmas season doorbuster hd specials.
[07:10] <nightpeople> you read my mind :)
[07:14] <nightpeople> Endler: 1:15 am and i have to be up at 6, guess i better get off to sleep. i'll let you know about the splash screen
[07:21] <cs_> any idea on how to get my sblive to be used instead of onboard? (no this isn't a dell)
[07:22] <crimsun> what's the output from ``asoundconf list''?
[07:22] <cs_> CK8S and Live
[07:22] <crimsun> ``asoundconf set-default-card Live'', then log out and back into KDE
[07:23] <cs_> okay
[07:24] <Endler> Anyone know of any linux utilities for editing windows registries?
[07:24] <robotgeek> hmm, now that's new :)
[07:25] <crimsun> fdisk works pretty well
[07:26] <Endler> Well, I installed a new hard drive with the old one still in so I could transfer windows to the new  drive to the first partition of the new drive and then install Linux on the rest.
[07:27] <Endler> Unfortunately I booted from  Windows on the new drive to test that it was working and it change it's boot drive registry entry to D.
[07:28] <Endler> and now it's C.
[07:28] <Endler> I hate the damn Windows Registry!!!
[07:29] <cs_> thanks, it's all working
[07:29] <Endler> That's the number one thing I love about Linux--no registry.
[07:29] <robotgeek> Endler: well, gnome uses kind of a registry. but its not binary == all good
[07:30] <Endler> well, as long as you can just use a simple text editor from another os on another partition, it guess it's not so bad.
[07:30] <gtwy> when it tells me to take my cd out and press enter to finish rebooting it just hangs
[07:30] <gtwy> after the install
[07:30] <gtwy> safe to just power off and power back up?
[07:32] <Endler> Although I prefer no registry at all; just simple config files.
[07:33] <gtwy> Endler: i think the registry was originally built around a good concept however it got WAY out of hand
[07:35] <gtwy> okay i have a big issue
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> ask
[07:35] <tchough> i don't like the registry either, but i really really really hate having to learn different config file syntax for every program i want to configure
[07:36] <gtwy> during the install my monitor was sort of going crazy horizontally: it is moving back and forth
[07:36] <gtwy> i thought maybe it was~ because i didnt have a monitor plugged in when it started and that when it finished installing and i booted into the system it would go away, well it didnt
[07:37] <gtwy> i booted up the system with the CD before and it didnt do this with the montir, but i had to reinstall because of problems with grub
[07:38] <gtwy> im running the 64 bit version
[07:39] <Admiral_Chicago> gtwy: try this "sudo apt-get dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:40] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: apt-get and dpkg-reconfigure?
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> gtwy: try this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: shh...
[07:40] <Jucato> :P
[07:41] <Admiral_Chicago> remember the potential energy of a spring is one half the force tension of the spring times the lenght of its displacement squared
[07:42] <Jucato> @_@
[07:42] <Jucato> no I won't remember that
[07:42] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Physics_Study_Guide/Springs
[07:42] <Jucato> no I won't click on that :P
[07:43] <gtwy> Admiral_Chicago: i shall thanks
[07:43] <kelvie> arg.. I'm studying springs atm right now too :/
[07:46] <gtwy> Admiral_Chicago: worked great thanks
[07:47] <Admiral_Chicago> gtwy: np
[07:47] <gtwy> Admiral_Chicago: dont happen to know any good benchmark software for multiprocessor systems do you?
[07:48] <Admiral_Chicago> no. you can try apt-cache search "string"
[07:48] <Admiral_Chicago> that might help you
[07:48] <unix_infidel> why would you want to benchmark multiproc sys?
[07:48] <unix_infidel> most of them have already been benchmarked for you.
[07:51] <gtwy> unix_infidel: i just got a dual Intel Xeon QUAD core system
[07:52] <gtwy> well, i have it until friday
[07:52] <unix_infidel> gtwy: so what's the point of benchmarking.
[07:52] <unix_infidel> enjoy it.
[07:52] <unix_infidel> maybe get something DONE!
[07:52] <gtwy> unix_infidel: i have no real use for it
[07:52] <unix_infidel> most people who buy expensive tools dont.
[07:53] <unix_infidel> unless they are smarter than the avg bear.
[07:53] <crimsun> gtwy: easy, just rebuild the entire Kubuntu archive.
[07:53] <gtwy> if i had something that cracked shadow files using multiple threads si would probably put it to good use
[07:53] <gtwy> but everyething i know about that does that is single thread
[07:54] <gtwy> crimsun: where can i get information to do that
[07:54] <crimsun> use your favourite Web search engine
[07:56] <gtwy> hmm something i should do
[07:56] <gtwy> !repositories
[07:56] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:57] <burepe> If I set up my server right could I get to it from any computer with my comps ip address? (the web domain dns are updating)
[07:57] <gtwy> burepe: is it behind a router / firewall?
[07:58] <burepe> yeah
[07:58] <burepe> I forwarded ports
[07:58] <gtwy> all computers behind the firewall will have access to all ports, and all computers on the internet will have access to it if you set the ports up correctly
[07:58] <burepe> It should be all right but I don't know how to check it is there
[07:58] <gtwy> and if you want help setting up a good linux dynamic DNS service i can show you
[07:59] <burepe> how can I get to the comp from outside though.
[07:59] <burepe> gtwy I will take the advice, but I got dns at the company that I bought the domain name from
[08:00] <gtwy> burepe: oh you have a static ip
[08:00] <burepe> yeah
[08:00] <gtwy> dynamic dns is for dynamic ip addresses
[08:00] <burepe> well
[08:00] <burepe> yeah
[08:00] <burepe> the external is not static
[08:00] <burepe> but the internal is
[08:00] <gtwy> what do you have open to the web? www or ssh or both
[08:01] <burepe> what do you mean
[08:01] <gtwy> what port numbers are you forwarding
[08:01] <burepe> 8o
[08:01] <burepe> 80
[08:01] <gtwy> does your domain registrar support dynamic IPs?
[08:01] <gtwy> how do they point a domain at your IP if it changes
[08:02] <burepe> I didn't get that far but I was in the middle of it so I just want to see if it works. If it changes and it doesn't work I will change it
[08:02] <burepe> it is still the same right now
[08:02] <burepe> I didn't ask but the service is free. Other places cost money right?
[08:04] <gtwy> burepe: you can run  your OWN dns if you have a static IP or two
[08:04] <burepe> but my question now is how can I get to my comp without the domain name just to see if it is there
[08:04] <gtwy> did you get apache up and running yet
[08:04] <binary2k2> afraid.og have a good dns service, also works with a dynamic IP http://freedns.afraid.org/menu/
[08:04] <burepe> Does it cost money
[08:04] <burepe> yeah got apache
[08:05] <binary2k2> only for the pro, but not to use you own domain with dynamic ip
[08:05] <gtwy> burepe: is it up and running
[08:05] <binary2k2> or static ip, pro is mostly for supporting them
[08:05] <burepe> I want to know if it is up and running. It should be
[08:05] <gtwy> burepe: what is the IP, the one you are connected from (if that is the case i already have it)
[08:06] <burepe> I can get to it from http:/localhost/
[08:06] <burepe> yeah
[08:06] <burepe> it is the one I am on
[08:06] <gtwy> loading in konqueror
[08:06] <gtwy> An error occurred while loading http://p3186-ipbfp405kyoto.kyoto.ocn.ne.jp:
[08:07] <gtwy> are you able to get on it via the web browser at home?
[08:07] <burepe> throught that address?
[08:08] <gtwy> thruogh the network address
[08:08] <gtwy> the local address behind the firewall
[08:08] <burepe> 192.168.24.200 ?
[08:08] <burepe> that one
[08:09] <burepe> I get to "Index of /"
[08:10] <burepe> same with "127.0.0.1" and "localhost"
[08:12] <musya> is there a gui that does ftp in kubuntu?
[08:12] <musya> sort of like filezilla?
[08:13] <Jucato> Konqueror
[08:13] <musya> it does ftp? how?
[08:13] <burepe> search ftp in synaptic. Is't filezilla there>
[08:13] <Jucato> ftp:/
[08:14] <Jucato> like ftp://foo@foo.com or something like that
[08:14] <Jucato> ftp://foo.com
[08:14] <gtwy> burepe: using ANOTHER computer other than the actual server
[08:14] <musya> oh never new that...
[08:14] <gtwy> can you access the folder
[08:14] <burepe> yeah
[08:14] <burepe> but it is in network
[08:14] <gtwy> musya: FTP is port 21 so you will haev to forward that as well
[08:15] <Jucato> there's also sftp:/ btw
[08:15] <gtwy> burepe: if you want to use sftp just enable ssh and forward port
[08:15] <musya> i got it open in firefox but how do you get the files? it just shows them to me...
[08:16] <gtwy> 22, that also lets you scp
[08:16] <gtwy> but right now you need to figure out why your router isnt forwarding the ports correctly
[08:17] <burepe> so it is the router? I forwarded the ports with the isp's help
[08:17] <burepe> Could it be anything else?
[08:17] <gtwy> unless im not resolving your address correctly that link didnt work
[08:18] <burepe> btw, how do I enable ssh?
[08:18] <gtwy> maybe give the link out in the channel and see if anyone else can get to it
[08:18] <musya> is there a command to check your system status? like cpu load and such?
[08:18] <burepe> the link? My ipaddress?
[08:18] <gtwy> burepe: yes
[08:18] <binary2k2> musya: top
[08:19] <Jucato> ksysguard if you want a GUI
[08:19] <burepe> http://122.19.220.186/
[08:19] <gtwy> what is the kubuntu equiv of rc-update ?
[08:19] <burepe> Can someone check that?
[08:19] <binary2k2> ah, GUIs are for wimps :p
[08:19] <wawan> indonesia mana ya
[08:19] <Jucato> why are you using KDE, then? :P
[08:20] <Rythan> burepe: No connection
[08:20] <gtwy> burepe: not working
[08:20] <burepe> hmm
[08:20] <binary2k2> because KDE is Kool :D
[08:20] <gtwy> you could always set it as the DMZ and then just set up iptables
[08:20] <Jucato> KDE is a kool GUI/desktop environment, too :D
[08:21] <burepe> what about http://122.19.220.186:192.168.24.200/
[08:21] <burepe> would that work?
[08:21] <gtwy> burepe: that isnt going to work
[08:21] <burepe> ok :)
[08:21] <gtwy> after the IP comes the port
[08:21] <gtwy> if anything it would be http://122.19.220.186:80
[08:22] <wawan> ah sepi banget...
[08:22] <burepe> So this is a portforwarding problem, huh?
[08:28] <burepe_>  So this is a portforwarding problem, huh?
[08:28] <notech> sounds like the router may not be port forwarding port 80 to the correct internal ip address
[08:29] <burepe_> ok, I will check it. thanks
[08:30] <unix_infidel> anyone here using a wacom tablet?
[08:31] <unix_infidel> i'm basically looking for the most cost effective wacom solution that has the most accuracy and durability.
[08:33] <mortici> how do i make all files and subfolders of a dir be owned by a user and group users?
[08:34] <notech> with chown
[08:35] <mortici> so chown <dir> user:group?
[08:36] <e1mer> mortici: chown -R user:group <dir>
[08:36] <notech> chown -R user:group /directory, assuming you want the directory and everything in it changed
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago> !depends
[08:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about depends - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> !dependencies
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dependencies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <notech> !deps
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about deps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <Jucato> :P
[08:37] <notech> was worth a shot, didn't think it'd have anything on such a broad subject
[08:39] <unix_infidel> anyone for my wacom question?
[08:40] <flaccid> yeah
[08:40] <flaccid> what is it
[08:40] <unix_infidel> i'm basically looking for the most cost effective yet accurate and durable wacom tablet i can find that has decent linux support
[08:40] <unix_infidel> flaccid: any ideas?
[08:41] <flaccid> oh none at all
[08:41] <unix_infidel> right now i'm looking at the wacom graphire
[08:42] <unix_infidel> which of the above statement about cost effective, durability, linux warrants "none at all"
[08:45] <aliben> hey im a complete noob and just installed kubuntu edgy and i dont understand how to get my nvidia card running
[08:45] <aliben> anyone up for helping me or pointing me to a tutorial or something?
[08:45] <Jucato> !nvidia
[08:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:47] <aliben> is it the same with the adept manager as the synaptic?
[08:48] <burepe_> How Can I find out my mac address?
[08:49] <unix_infidel> ifconfig [interface name] 
[08:50] <mefisto__> can anyone tell me how I can change my default CD player from Kaffeine to Amarok?
[08:50] <gtwy> http://www.geekpatrol.ca/browse/2006/?view&id=11072
[08:53] <unix_infidel> gtwy: why arent you running an smp specific kernel?
[08:54] <gtwy> unix_infidel: ? i downloaded the 64bit CD
[08:55] <unix_infidel> gtwy: hard to believe they didnt package multiple kernels.
[08:55] <unix_infidel> check the boot instructions to see if they allow you to boot to specific kernels.
[08:55] <gtwy> why which kernel do i want
[08:57] <gtwy> unix_infidel: how would i go about changing that
[08:58] <unix_infidel> gtwy: i dont benchmark hardware unless i get paid for it.
[08:58] <unix_infidel> and i usually only get paid to use the advanced hardware to get work done.
[08:58] <unix_infidel> i'd guess if you looked at the boot instructions you could specify which kernel to boot to.
[08:59] <unix_infidel> eg, something with smp in the line, unless the generic RHEL4 is already compiled against it.
[08:59] <mooreand13213> any1 know of a reason y i wouldn't be able to boot into kubuntu off of the cd
[08:59] <mooreand13213> ?
[09:00] <gtwy> unix_infidel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic
[09:00] <mooreand13213> its gotta be a video card thing, i can't even boot into safe graphics mode cause all i get is flashing colors
[09:01] <binary2k2> gtwy: afaik the -generic kernel is SMP, do "uname -a"
[09:01] <gtwy> Linux this-is-god 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 15:34:39 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:02] <gtwy> seems so
[09:02] <mooreand13213> can somebody help me out please?
[09:03] <gtwy> mooreand13213: whats wrong
[09:03] <mooreand13213> i can't boot into kubuntu off the cd
[09:03] <mooreand13213> all that i get is colored squares
[09:03] <gtwy> nvidia?
[09:03] <mooreand13213> yessir
[09:04] <gtwy> yeah nvidia is always a pain in the ass
[09:04] <cpk1> umm no its not
[09:04] <mooreand13213> how do i install it to fix it if i cant boot into it in the first place?
[09:04] <cpk1> the alternative cd is non graphical
[09:04] <gtwy> cpk1: never ut kubuntu on nvidia... on gentoo, nvidia was a pain in the ass
[09:04] <gtwy> put
[09:04] <mooreand13213> u ever heard of sabayon linux?
[09:05] <mooreand13213> its gentoo based, but it already includes the drivers and everything
[09:05] <gtwy> never heard of it
[09:05] <gtwy> gotta reboot brb
[09:05] <mooreand13213> would that be easier for someone first starting out?
[09:06] <cpk1> mooreand13213: what kind of card you have?
[09:06] <notech> nvidia works fine on anythingg i've used it on, ati is another story
[09:06] <mooreand13213> geforce 6800
[09:06] <cpk1> most likely its just a small setting you need to change in xorg.conf
[09:06] <mooreand13213> but i haven't installed yet, i was trying to install but i can't get into it
[09:07] <cpk1> you can choose to go to a command line instead of booting a gui i think
[09:07] <mooreand13213> oic
[09:07] <cpk1> or you could try going to tty1 after it boots
[09:07] <mooreand13213> what is that?
[09:08] <cpk1> X11 runs on tty7 and up, the tty's before that are all non graphical tty's
[09:08] <binary2k2> can't you just pass "single" to the boot line on the cd?
[09:08] <mooreand13213> ive never used linux before, so i have no clue
[09:09] <cpk1> if you press ctrl alt f1 it will go to tty1
[09:09] <mooreand13213> ok
[09:10] <binary2k2> mooreand13213: if you've never used linux before, i'd say use it in vmware on windows first for a while, it will take some time to adjust
[09:10] <cpk1> he can just dual boot
[09:10] <mooreand13213> i have a second hard drive so i wont screw anything up
[09:10] <cpk1> however i think the best way to learn is by getting rid of windows which forces you to learn and fix your problems
[09:10] <binary2k2> vmware is what I normaly recomend at first, then dual boot, just to get the feel of it
[09:10] <mooreand13213> makes sense
[09:11] <mooreand13213> vmware free?
[09:11] <x_or> I need to upgrade from Badger to Eft.  Can I do this in one swoop, or do I need to update to Dapper first, and then go to Eft?
[09:11] <cpk1> !upgrade
[09:11] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[09:11] <cpk1> and no you cant do it in one swoop =\
[09:11] <binary2k2> yeah, the vmware-player is, and so is the rest of vmware, you just get a new license every month
[09:12] <mooreand13213> alright, i might give that a try then
[09:12] <mooreand13213> cause i want to try out this sabayon distro too to see which i prefer
[09:12] <cpk1> also the ubuntu live cd seems to be better than the kubuntu one
[09:12] <binary2k2> it'll let you get a feel for kubuntu, then when you dual boot, you won't be so tempted to just reboot back in to windows
[09:12] <mooreand13213> ya
[09:13] <mooreand13213> are gentoo based distros harder for beginners to learn, or just different?
[09:13] <cpk1> if this isnt a production machine and you can afford to have reduced productivity for a week or so I say go head first =P
[09:13] <binary2k2> short answer, yes
[09:13] <reldruh> mooreand13213:  definitely harder, I just tried it and now I'm back with Kubuntu
[09:13] <mooreand13213> what is different?
[09:14] <cpk1> although with emerge or whatever it isnt supposed to be as bad
[09:14] <mefisto__> can anyone tell me how I can change my default CD player from Kaffeine to Amarok?
[09:17] <binary2k2> mefisto__: when you put in a CD, click on the configure button, then change the medium type to "Audio CD", remove kaffine and add amarok
[09:18] <seven11_> anyone knows a good music organizer i would like to print my collection with cover
[09:18] <mefisto__> when I put in a cd, it just plays in kaffeine immediately
[09:19] <binary2k2> mefisto__: I get a box asking me
[09:19] <mefisto__> I used to, but not any more
[09:20] <mefisto__> thanks anyway binary2k2
[09:20] <cpk1> mefisto__: try using kcontrol  and going to kde components then file associations
[09:21] <Admiral_Chicago> !sound
[09:21] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:24] <linux_> how can I make a script for watching wich port are used on localhost ?
[09:26] <cntb> \o
[09:27] <cntb> xkb not switching languages with alt-shift only flag
[09:32] <cntb> !lexmark
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lexmark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <cntb> !nvidia
[09:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:33] <cntb> !printers
[09:33] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:37] <linux_> how can I make a script for watching wich port are used on localhost ?
[09:38] <binary2k2> linux_: I've never made a scipt to do that, but I'd guess you'll need to get to know the command netstat
[09:39] <linux_> yes I'm already using that
[09:41] <binary2k2> linux_: or just use ksysguard, it can show what ports are open
[09:43] <linux_> hey nice tool, but I have to make it because it is a assingment :)
[09:43] <linux_> but thanks any way :)
[09:45] <grizzly> installation gets stuck on "scanning the mirror"
[09:45] <grizzly> probably looking for non-existant dhcp broadband which I can't give it, as I have static ip
[09:45] <grizzly> solution?
[09:46] <binary2k2> grizzly: bare with it
[09:46] <grizzly> binary2k2: get lost
[09:47] <Z3dzDead> hi, has anyone had a problem like this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=308917&highlight=bad+interpreter
[09:48] <Z3dzDead> I am getting a bad interpreter error no matter what script I run- either with #!/bin/sh or #!/bin/bash
[09:48] <binary2k2> grizzly: yeah, that's the way to get us to help
[09:48] <grizzly> not us but YOU
[09:49] <Z3dzDead> bad time, huh?
[09:49] <binary2k2> !patience | grizzly
[09:49] <ubotu> grizzly: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:49] <grizzly> binary2k2: assholes like you are the reason why many ppl keep away from linux , iw onder what you are doing on ubuntu
[09:50] <Z3dzDead> its true grizzly. i've been here for about 2 hours now. and problem's still unsolved. and i've had a lot of help so far. in the mean time, do check out the forums to see if you can find some help.
[09:50] <grizzly> !patience | binary2k2
[09:50] <ubotu> binary2k2: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:50] <Z3dzDead> heh.
[09:51] <binary2k2> gotta love that ignore command
[09:53] <grizzly> I am sure all you ignore will be eternally grateful for the ignore command indeed
[09:53] <Z3dzDead> binary2k2: probably some spoilt brat who's gotten his way with everyone til he came  in here. yeah grizzly. he's ignored you.
[09:54] <binary2k2> Z3dzDead: you're probably right, tho I'd like to see how far he'll get in the linux world with ana attitude like that
[09:55] <eilker> !ssl
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ssl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <aliben> ive read the page on the wiki and i cant seem to get my nvidia card going...
[10:02] <aliben> when i run the command in the console it gives an error and says make sure you got the right package for your kernel
[10:02] <aliben> which i beleive i did...
[10:02] <aliben> any advice?
[10:03] <binary2k2> aliben: which command are you running?
[10:04] <aliben> lemme see
[10:04] <aliben> i just restarted so i gotta get it back up
[10:05] <aliben> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:06] <aliben> and i get Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[10:06] <aliben> which i think i did correctly according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:06] <aliben> as far as i know
[10:06] <binary2k2> did you install either of nvidia-glx-legacy or nvidia-glx?
[10:07] <aliben> yes nvidia-glx
[10:07] <Jucato> did you install linux-restricted-modules for your kernel?
[10:07] <aliben> yes
[10:08] <Jucato> hm... how about the command "sudo nvidia-xconfig"?
[10:08] <aliben> you want to know what that outputs?
[10:09] <Jucato> does it still give you erros?
[10:09] <aliben> looks like it backed up the file and rewrote it
[10:09] <Jucato> errors*
[10:09] <aliben> no
[10:09] <Jucato> remember the name of the backup file, as you might need it
[10:09] <aliben> k
[10:10] <aliben> so... should i restart and see if i get the splash screen now?
[10:10] <cntb> !deb
[10:10] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[10:10] <Jucato> aliben: just restart X, not the whole computer
[10:10] <aliben> right
[10:10] <Jucato> good luck
[10:11] <cntb> where in menus is  Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu) ?
[10:11] <aliben> before i go what was different about the command you gave me
[10:11] <binary2k2> cntb: richt click menu
[10:11] <Jucato> aliben: I don't know. that's just the command I use
[10:11] <aliben> k
[10:11] <aliben> thanks
[10:11] <aliben> brb
[10:12] <fek> moin
[10:13] <aliben> that seems to have done the trick!
[10:13] <aliben> thanks a lot
[10:15] <Jucato> ok
[10:15] <Jucato> :)
[10:20] <||arifaX> ghamachi is not running under edgy (kde) seems to be some gtk problem. any ideas or similar problem?
[10:43] <Admiral_Chicago> can someone help me with this: I want to add a taskbar to my main panel
[10:46] <fannagoganna> it does not appear to be too difficult
[10:47] <Admiral_Chicago> alright that failed miserably
[10:47] <Admiral_Chicago> way to go KDE
[10:47] <fannagoganna> you right click on the panel, and then choose "Add Applet to Panel"
[10:47] <fannagoganna> did you try this?
[10:47] <Pr0bi0tic0> hey guys
[10:48] <fannagoganna> and then choose the taskbar applet
[10:48] <apokryphos> hi
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> fannagoganna: thanks
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> arg beryl is making upset :P
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> now i can't move the clock or the taskbar...
[10:50] <Pr0bi0tic0> yesterday i had full upgraded my kubuntu and somewhere in instalation, it occours an error. but kubuntu was ok and i could stay work on it... today, when i start kubuntu, a black screen appears.. can anyone help me?
[10:52] <ehird> how do you remount / again? i forgot :/
[10:52] <Pr0bi0tic0> how can i do it?
[10:53] <Admiral_Chicago> much mennel
[10:53] <Admiral_Chicago> Pr0bi0tic0: when you log in to a session or can you log in at all
[10:54] <Admiral_Chicago> what command can i use to change what sound server the system uses
[10:54] <Admiral_Chicago> and i don't mean in the system settings
[10:54] <Admiral_Chicago> crimsun: can you help for a sec?
[10:55] <Pr0bi0tic0> i cant log in.... kubuntu guide appears and then a black screen with _ ...
[10:55] <crimsun> Admiral_Chicago: ?
[10:55] <ehird> no-one?
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> crimsun: i did dpkg-reconfigure -a and sowher in there it asked me if i wanted to use ALSA or OSS
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> and my ALSA configuration is borked and I just want to use OSS
[10:56] <binary2k2> ehird: sudo mount /dev/hda? -o remount  i think
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> any  help
[10:56] <crimsun> Admiral_Chicago: why is your alsa config borked?
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> ehird: can you be more specific about what you are trying to do
[10:57] <crimsun> Admiral_Chicago: and you can't use oss/free unless you compile your own kernel; we don't even enable those in the kernel config
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> because it recognizes my card but won't play anything. i tried the walkthroughs for help but that didn't fix anything
[10:57] <ehird> Admiral_Chicago: same thing i did yesterday :p
[10:57] <Pr0bi0tic0> can anyone help me?
[10:57] <crimsun> Admiral_Chicago: which audio chipset is it?
[10:58] <ehird> binary2k2: thanks, worked :)
[10:58] <binary2k2> ehird: :)
[10:58] <Admiral_Chicago> snd-intel0x8 iirc. might be snd-intel8x0
[10:59] <binary2k2> Pr0bi0tic0: have you tried "sudo dpkg --configure -a" or "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"
[10:59] <Pr0bi0tic0> i cant log in..
[10:59] <binary2k2> Pr0bi0tic0: press ctrl-alt-f1 to got to a console
[11:00] <Pr0bi0tic0> ok i will try that
[11:00] <Pr0bi0tic0> thks
[11:00] <crimsun> Admiral_Chicago: snd-intel8x0 works fine. Are you _positive_ it uses snd-intel8x0?
[11:00] <binary2k2> Pr0bi0tic0: or boot in to recovery/single-user mode
[11:00] <Admiral_Chicago> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) A  C'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[11:00] <Admiral_Chicago> from when i run lspci -v
[11:00] <crimsun> Admiral_Chicago: and ``amixer''?
[11:01] <Pr0bi0tic0> brb
[11:02] <Admiral_Chicago> i get a lot of output, am i supposed to look for something in particular?
[11:04] <crimsun> Admiral_Chicago: you're supposed to pastebin it so I can look at it
[11:04] <crimsun> seriously, I don't have much time
[11:04] <Admiral_Chicago> ah okay
[11:05] <Admiral_Chicago> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35550/
[11:05] <chx> How can I assign a key to switch keyboard layouts?
[11:05] <Admiral_Chicago> crimsun: if you have to run, go ahead. just ping me in #ubuntustudio when you have time
[11:07] <Pr0bi0tic0> sudo dpkg -reconfigure kdm didn't work.... : "Screen init failed /etc/mdadm/mdadm conf: No such file or directory"
[11:07] <chx> mmm i typed kcontrol there I found keyboard shortcuts and I am set.
[11:07] <Pr0bi0tic0> and i cant write anything in command line
[11:07] <crimsun> Admiral_Chicago: argh, well no wonder, they're muted
[11:07] <Admiral_Chicago> alsamixer tells me they aren't...
[11:08] <crimsun> Admiral_Chicago: and you only have 1 sound card, correct?
[11:08] <crimsun> (just the onboard)
[11:08] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[11:08] <crimsun> good
[11:08] <Admiral_Chicago> no way if this work i'll be most upset
[11:09] <Pr0bi0tic0> can anyone help me, plz?
[11:09] <Admiral_Chicago> do you suggest I use alsa system wide (i.e. for amarok as well)
[11:09] <crimsun> amixer set 'Master' on && amixer set 'PCM' on && amixer set 'Surround' on && amixer set 'Center' on && amixer set 'IEC958' off && amixer set 'IEC958 Capture Monitor' off
[11:10] <crimsun> then test it with: ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav''
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> Pr0bi0tic0: try sudo aptitude purge kdm && sudo apt-get install kdm
[11:11] <Pr0bi0tic0> but i cant write anything
[11:11] <Admiral_Chicago> Pr0bi0tic0: oh that is right, try a recovery mode kernel
[11:11] <Admiral_Chicago> crimsun: perfect
[11:11] <Pr0bi0tic0> ty
[11:12] <Pr0bi0tic0> what do u thing happened?
[11:12] <Admiral_Chicago> that was so frustrating, do you think I have to do that everytime I boot?
[11:12] <crimsun> Admiral_Chicago: no
[11:12] <Admiral_Chicago> Pr0bi0tic0: maybe an unmet dependency
[11:12] <Admiral_Chicago> crimsun: thanks again
[11:13] <Pr0bi0tic0> thks
[11:13] <Pr0bi0tic0> i'll try that
[11:13] <Admiral_Chicago> w00t! flash works as well!
[11:18] <luis> hola
[11:19] <Pr0bi0tic0> Admiral_Chicago it didnt work
[11:19] <luis> que tal
[11:19] <Pr0bi0tic0> in recovery kernel mode, appears the same error and say: "Begin root ..."
[11:19] <Pr0bi0tic0> and i cant write anything
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> Pr0bi0tic0: wow that is really strange, so there is something wrong with your actual boot sequence
[11:21] <Pr0bi0tic0> so... am i fuc**?
[11:22] <Admiral_Chicago> did you check the CD before you installed?
[11:22] <Pr0bi0tic0> i suppose the cause are in bad instalation of upgrade
[11:22] <Pr0bi0tic0> ?
[11:23] <Pr0bi0tic0> my kubuntu was working
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> Pr0bi0tic0: what did you update to / from ?
[11:23] <Pr0bi0tic0> but yesterday i've done full upgrade with apk
[11:23] <cntb> !xkb
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xkb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <cntb> anybody expert in alt-shift keyboard language switching ?
[11:24] <Pr0bi0tic0> i've just click on Full upgrade button
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> cntb: you might mean kxkb?
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> cntb: try the applet keyboard status applet
[11:26] <Pr0bi0tic0> ...
[11:26] <ailean> Riddell, what i was asking before :)
[11:27] <Lothar|ZZZ> in kubuntu... does the cd get auto mounted or do i have to mount it my self
[11:27] <Riddell> ailean: I did my LPI stuff with a company called Net Resources in Edinburgh
[11:27] <Riddell> at the time they were the only people doing it in Scotland, and I don't think that's changed
[11:27] <ailean> Riddell, was that remote or did you turn up to a college?
[11:27] <Pr0bi0tic0> what can i do?
[11:28] <ailean> Riddell, ok, well if i don't have a choice, i don't have a choice :)
[11:28] <Riddell> ailean: I just did the exam with them, I didn't do any studying for it
[11:28] <ailean> Riddell, i'm in hamilton, so it's a bit of a journey to ed
[11:28] <ailean> Riddell, well i can manage a day or two :)
[11:28] <Riddell> people in #scotlug might be able to tell you more about west coast failities
[11:28] <ailean> Riddell, i need to study for it . . . but i don't know where to start
[11:29] <Riddell> there's a couple books available for studying it
[11:29] <Riddell> other than that I'm not sure
[11:29] <Pr0bi0tic0> well.. i'm from portugal, i need to study for C programming and my sob kubuntu dont let me!
[11:29] <Pr0bi0tic0> lol
[11:30] <Riddell> Pr0bi0tic0: your what won't let you?
[11:30] <Pr0bi0tic0> son of a b**** kubuntu =P
[11:30] <ailean> Riddell, any recommendation?
[11:30] <ailean> Pr0bi0tic0, kubuntu will let you program in C :)
[11:30] <megapig> I can't set my screen resolution to 1280*800. Can anyone help me?
[11:31] <Admiral_Chicago> ailean: no his install is borked
[11:31] <Admiral_Chicago> !res | megapig
[11:31] <ubotu> megapig: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:31] <ailean> ahh
[11:31] <Pr0bi0tic0> yeah i know ailean but i cant put it work
[11:31] <ailean> sorry Pr0bi0tic0 i'm assuming things i shouldn't be
[11:32] <Pr0bi0tic0> no prob
[11:32] <Admiral_Chicago> ailean: you know the saying
[11:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Pr0bi0tic0: i'm sorry i don't think i can be of any more assistance. :\
[11:32] <Pr0bi0tic0> i'm just stressed because i dont know what to do! =S
[11:32] <ailean> Admiral_Chicago, i know :)
[11:32] <Pr0bi0tic0> i'm a completly noob of kubuntu
[11:32] <Riddell> Pr0bi0tic0: what are you trying to do and what's the problem?
[11:32] <Pr0bi0tic0> thks Admiral_Chicago ;)
[11:32] <Pr0bi0tic0> no prob
[11:33] <Pr0bi0tic0> yesterday i go to apk and i just click on full upgrade button
[11:33] <Pr0bi0tic0> but there occured an error in installation
[11:33] <Riddell> ailean: I don't have any book recommendation I'm afraid, I never used any
[11:34] <Pr0bi0tic0> installation aborted but i could continue my work
[11:34] <Pr0bi0tic0> then i turn of computer and everything was all right
[11:34] <Pr0bi0tic0> tday when i start kubuntu
[11:34] <Pr0bi0tic0> i just cant
[11:34] <Pr0bi0tic0> "Screen init failed"
[11:35] <Admiral_Chicago> ah it can't start the screen, it can't initialize the screen
[11:35] <Pr0bi0tic0> and i cant open console to write a command
[11:35] <ailean> Riddell, thanks :)
[11:35] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure how to fix it but it's what happened
[11:35] <Pr0bi0tic0> sorry my english =P
[11:36] <ailean> Pr0bi0tic0, your english is almost perfect . . .
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> yea it is very good
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> you might want to try the ubuntu portugal channel, they might be of better assistance
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> !pr
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> !pt
[11:36] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry
[11:38] <Pr0bi0tic0> thks Admiral_Chicago and ailean.. but it's rare talk in english
[11:38] <Pr0bi0tic0> =P
[11:38] <ailean> *strange
[11:38] <ailean> Pr0bi0tic0, i speak spanish if you'd prefer to speak that, but i don't speak portuguese
[11:39] <Pr0bi0tic0> nooooooooo
[11:39] <Pr0bi0tic0> spanish no!
[11:39] <Pr0bi0tic0> lool
[11:39] <Pr0bi0tic0> =P
[11:39] <Pr0bi0tic0> i prefer english
[11:39] <Pr0bi0tic0> whatever
[11:39] <Pr0bi0tic0> thks for the help
[11:39] <ailean> lol
[11:39] <Pr0bi0tic0> and
[11:39] <Pr0bi0tic0> have a nice day
[11:40] <Pr0bi0tic0> oh i forgot!
[11:40] <Pr0bi0tic0> Benfica allez
[11:40] <Pr0bi0tic0> !!
[11:40] <Pr0bi0tic0> eheh xD
[11:40] <ailean> bom dia
[11:40] <Pr0bi0tic0> Obrigado
[11:50] <Teejay__> is there a program already installed on kubuntu which is similar to gimp?
[11:50] <Riddell> Teejay__: krita
[11:51] <Teejay__> thanks
[11:53] <megapig> how do I install the "855resolution" file?
[11:57] <jessy> hi all, I've installed the nvidia driver, it works perfectly, but in the Monitor&display KDE settings it still refers the vesa driver, how can I fix that ?
[11:59] <jessy> the problem being that I cannot change resolution or frequency because it things I'm on a vesa driver
[12:00] <koliu> hi,everytime i compile driver for usb i get: no directory "build" in /lib/modules......
[12:00] <koliu> i installed kernel header but still /build is empty
[12:03] <flo_> Does anyone know what i have to do to get Krdc/Krfp running over the internet ? (Only works within the local net here)
[12:13] <Admiral_Chicago> anyoni in here a physicist?
[12:13] <Admiral_Chicago> arg this is frustrating
[12:13] <TFC> physicist?
[12:14] <fannagoganna> i am, what's the problem?
[12:15] <fannagoganna> although what help is a physicist with Kubuntu's problems?
[12:18] <Admiral_Chicago> fannagoganna: for real?
[12:18] <fannagoganna> yup
[12:18] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm doing a piece of homework
[12:18] <fannagoganna> what seems to be the problem?
[12:18] <fannagoganna> let's do this privately
[12:18] <Admiral_Chicago> PM?
[12:18] <Admiral_Chicago> kk
[12:23] <Admiral_Chicago> kubunt and physics are very closely related
[12:25] <lenscape> is there a flavour of *ubuntu for servers - without any X/KDE/Gnome gui stuff?
[12:26] <apokryphos> lenscape: yes, see the download page
[12:26] <apokryphos> or the main ubuntu.com webpage
[12:27] <lenscape> why has ubuntu messed with the 'back' key in Firefox?
[12:27] <lenscape> what an irritation!
[12:28] <lenscape> apokryphos: thanks. Looking now
[12:28] <apokryphos> they haven't, Firefox did
[12:28] <apokryphos> a change in 2.0
[12:28] <lenscape> really? How dumb
[12:28] <Jucato> o.O
[12:28] <apokryphos> they changed quite a few default keybindings, yeah
[12:28] <lenscape> is there an 'undo dumb changes' option?
[12:29] <apokryphos> you'd have to manually set them, I guess
[12:30] <lenscape> apokryphos: any idea where?
[12:31] <apokryphos> probably in their about:config or something
[12:32] <apokryphos> don't really use ff
[12:32] <arafat> !mac
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <lenscape> apokryphos: Hmm. Looking there now
[12:36] <apokryphos> if not ask goodl
[12:36] <apokryphos> errr, or google, even
[12:39] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: still around?
[12:47] <darmayasa> dear All, could some help me.. i have been installing the new Kubuntu 6.10, and kxdocker app, but the application did not running ...
[12:47] <Admiral_Chicago> is it an applet?
[12:47] <darmayasa> yes
[12:48] <darmayasa> on first installation the kxdocker was runing well, but now .. is not running
[12:48] <darmayasa> sorry i'm a newbe in Linux
[12:50] <Admiral_Chicago> darmayasa: did you add the applet to the panel?
[12:50] <darmayasa> yes already
[12:52] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, try this, open up a konsole and try sudo dpkg-reconfigure kxdocker
[12:53] <gnomefreak> i filied a bug on that a while ago
[12:55] <darmayasa> admiral_chicago: i'm doing just like you said "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kxdocker", but the applet just spining ..
[12:56] <Admiral_Chicago> darmayasa: accoding to gnomefreak it is a bug...
[12:56] <Admiral_Chicago> :\
[12:56] <gnomefreak> its been a bug since dapper iirc
[12:56] <darmayasa> so, what can i do?
[12:58] <homer> hi, is there a place on ubuntu like in xp "my computer", were all the harddisks are listed?
[12:58] <homer> and partitions
[12:59] <Riddell> homer: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[01:00] <homer> kubuntu
[01:00] <Riddell> homer: System Menu (computer icon on the panel, bottom left) -> Storage Media
[01:08] (homer/#kubuntu) i installed kbuntu on hda, and now i added another hd (with ntfs),to test if i can read and so on,could idamage my second hd now?
[01:09] <binary2k2> homer: by drfault linux won't try to write to ntfs, but it can read from it
[01:09] <homer> heard that , but now i have to find the harddisk
[01:09] <Phlegyas> oh since that's the topic ... maybe we could learn how to make linux write on ntfs? :)
[01:09] <||arifaX> homer: ntfs partitions get mounted read only by default so you should not be able to damage it. only thing to remember, don't do partitioning stuff with it
[01:09] <binary2k2> !ntfs-3g | Phlegyas
[01:09] <ubotu> Phlegyas: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:10] <||arifaX> oh double
[01:10] <Phlegyas> wow ... thanx binary :) and thank you lil botie :)
[01:10] <homer> no, just wont to look
[01:10] <homer> want
[01:11] <crube> When can I see how much free space  have on my HD
[01:11] <crube> where*
[01:11] <Phlegyas> good good ... well if you finish with the HD things i'd like to ask about that audio thing on flash :) thanks :D
[01:11] <binary2k2> crube: the command 'df' is what you want
[01:12] <crube> Alrighty thanks
[01:12] <Admiral_Chicago> homer: you can read safely
[01:12] <Admiral_Chicago> i think is your question correctl?
[01:12] <binary2k2> homer: there is a place in system settings to setup partions, it'll be called Disk & Filesystems
[01:12] <homer> yeah but first i have to find my hd and partitions
[01:12] <homer> ok
[01:13] <Admiral_Chicago> homer: do this: fdisk -l will list list your partitons
[01:13] <Admiral_Chicago> then mount them
[01:13] <Admiral_Chicago> !mount | homer
[01:13] <ubotu> homer: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[01:14] <Phlegyas> question. can i pm the bots?
[01:14] <binary2k2> yes
[01:15] <Phlegyas> thank you :D
[01:15] <gnomefreak> !bot
[01:15] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:15] <Phlegyas> wow ... all knowing bot ... i'm amazed ... i have to find how to enable sound for the macromedia flash now ... i'll go browse his brain :P
[01:16] <homer> ah now i can see them
[01:16] <Phlegyas> way to go HOMER :D
[01:16] <homer> just not easy on a new system to find places:)
[01:16] <homer> and translate english help to german
[01:17] <binary2k2> homer: there is a german kubuntu channel too
[01:17] <homer> where?
[01:17] <binary2k2> !de
[01:17] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:17] <supermegazord> siem wszystkim
[01:17] <homer> thx
[01:17] <supermegazord> o sory this a not chanel :)
[01:17] <binary2k2> :)
[01:19] <homer> now i'm in Disk & Filesystems can i make shortcuts of the partitions to the desktop?
[01:19] <Admiral_Chicago> create nevw link to device
[01:19] <Admiral_Chicago> right click on the desktop
[01:19] <binary2k2> you can, but you need to mount them first
[01:20] <binary2k2> or do it Admiral_Chicagos way, that works too :p
[01:20] <homer> thx, now i have a shortcut to the ntfs disk
[01:21] <homer> have to take a break , wife is bitching ;)
[01:21] <nata1> oi
[01:22] <binary2k2> :p
[01:22] <nata1> i just downloaded a .bin file
[01:22] <nata1> and so this damn thing opens in kate?
[01:22] <nata1> how come?
[01:22] <nata1> how come it doesnt open normally and like
[01:22] <nata1> installs
[01:22] <binary2k2> oi nata1, you need to make it executable
[01:22] <nata1> woot
[01:22] <nata1> how do i do that?
[01:22] <nata1> :x
[01:22] <binary2k2> best to run it in konsole too
[01:23] <nata1> i can do that
[01:23] <nata1> but how do i make it executable?
[01:23] <binary2k2> in konsole run: chmod +x file.bin
[01:23] <nata1> kik thanks
[01:23] <nata1> trying..
[01:24] <nata1> ok
[01:24] <nata1> done.
[01:24] <nata1> should i just ./run it in konsole from there?
[01:24] <nata1> or would it be better to just pwn the thing in X?
[01:24] <binary2k2> yeah, if it is installing system wide use sudo, if it nees X it will use it anyway
[01:25] <nata1> k
[01:25] <binary2k2> just ./file.bin or sudo ./file.bin
[01:25] <nata1> is it wise to run sudo first?
[01:25] <binary2k2> depends if you are installing system wide or just for you
[01:25] <nata1> its java
[01:26] <nata1> som im guessing system wide :o
[01:26] <pedroca> como fao pra ir pro ubuntu br?
[01:26] <binary2k2> why not install from ubuntu?
[01:26] <nata1> oh
[01:26] <nata1> where would i do that?
[01:26] <binary2k2> !br | pedroca
[01:26] <ubotu> pedroca: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:26] <nata1> cuz i'd love to do that!
[01:26] <binary2k2> have you enabled multiverse?
[01:27] <Phlegyas> well here's my prob. i found something on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-c268ba69c6b38af1dc31ea09701c7d296cf971c3 about flash audio but i'm most probably doing something wrong. it's not working. could you please try and help ? :)
[01:28] <binary2k2> nata1: do you have multiverse?
[01:28] <nata1> dont think so, no
[01:28] <nata1> apt-get install multiverse?
[01:28] <binary2k2> no
[01:28] <binary2k2> !multiverse
[01:28] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:29] <binary2k2> the all knowing bot havs given you a link to follow, it will tell you how to enable it
[01:29] <Phlegyas> helllo? hehe :) anyone knows how to make flash movies play with sound?
[01:30] <Phlegyas> oh i think i found something ...i'll come back later on if that doesnt work either :P thanks anyways
[01:30] <raphink> what version of flash do you use Phlegyas?
[01:30] <Phlegyas> 7
[01:30] <binary2k2> Phlegyas: there is a troubleshooting section there
[01:30] <raphink> Phlegyas: install flash 9
[01:30] <nata1> im sorry, bin, but that site didnt really tell me anything
[01:30] <raphink> that'll be a step forward already
[01:30] <Phlegyas> that's where i was going raphink thanks :D
[01:30] <nata1> multiverse
[01:30] <raphink> np
[01:30] <binary2k2> flash9 is in backports now
[01:30] <nata1> should i add that to /etc/sources.apt to get access to more packs or something?
[01:31] <raphink> yes nata1
[01:31] <binary2k2> nata1: yes, exactly
[01:31] <nata1> cool
[01:31] <Phlegyas> i'll try backports thanks binary
[01:32] <binary2k2> Phlegyas: just enable either dapper-backports or edgy-backports and then update
[01:33] <Phlegyas> that'll be edgy then. thanks!!!!!!!!!!
[01:33] <binary2k2> no problem :)
[01:39] <bkudria> can anyone help me get korganizer to upload free/busy info?  i want to upload it to a webdav:// url, but korganizer tells me 'a resource could not be created until one or more intermediate collections (folders) have been created".  Which folders do i need to create?  I am not using Kolab...
[01:40] <Phlegyas> ummm i did add the backports thing and now i'm trying to install flash from Adept but ... is the flash-nonfree the one i'm looking for?
[01:40] <Jucato> flashplugin-nonfree
[01:41] <Phlegyas> that one right? that's the flash 9 right?
[01:41] <Jucato> it's both for flash 7 and 9, depends on the repos you have enabled
[01:41] <Jucato> you can check its version (Show Details)
[01:42] <Phlegyas> oh right sorry then :)
[01:42] <Phlegyas> yeah that's the 9.0.21.many numbers version
[01:42] <Jucato> 9.0.21.78.2ubuntu1~edgy1 0
[01:42] <Phlegyas> cool lets try then
[01:42] <Jucato> yep, that's Flash 9 Beta 2
[01:44] <Phlegyas> damn. it didnt work. there's was a problem commiting the changes or something like that ... grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[01:44] <Jucato> ?
[01:44] <Jucato> how are you trying to install it?
[01:45] <Phlegyas> adept :)
[01:45] <Phlegyas> i just pressed on request install
[01:45] <Phlegyas> and apply changes
[01:45] <Phlegyas> but nope.
[01:45] <Jucato> hm.. flash right?
[01:45] <Phlegyas> yeah
[01:45] <binary2k2> Phlegyas: try from konsole
[01:45] <Jucato> install it from the command line: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:45] <Phlegyas> ok lets try that one :)
[01:47] <Phlegyas> well actually i got what the problem is ... i used to have it since i first installed kubuntu.
[01:47] <Phlegyas> what's this AMAVISD thing?
[01:47] <Admiral_Chicago> @now chicago
[01:47] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Chicago: December 06 2006, 06:47:26
[01:47] <Phlegyas> it 's always giving me trouble when installing things :)
[01:47] <Admiral_Chicago> up all night working on physics test Jucato
[01:47] <Jucato> ouch
[01:48] <Phlegyas> ok sorry for this ... i'm pasting from the console --> Starting amavisd: head: cannot open `/etc/mailname' for reading: No such file or directory
[01:48] <Phlegyas>   The value of variable $myhostname is "PortableThrone", but should have been
[01:48] <Phlegyas>   a fully qualified domain name; perhaps uname(3) did not provide such.
[01:48] <Phlegyas>   You must explicitly assign a FQDN of this host to variable $myhostname
[01:48] <Phlegyas>   in amavisd.conf, or fix what uname(3) provides as a host's network name!
[01:48] <Phlegyas> (failed).
[01:48] <Jucato> !pastebin | Phlegyas
[01:48] <ubotu> Phlegyas: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:48] <Phlegyas> oh really terribly sorry i didnt know that. thanx for the tip
[01:48] <Admiral_Chicago> okay shower now so I don't fall asleep at the computer
[01:49] <Phlegyas> have a nice shower Admiral :D
[01:49] <Admiral_Chicago> wihch i've only done once before in my life
[01:49] <Riddell> topic diff: Herd 1 Released
[01:49] <Jucato> yay! rsync time
[01:49] <Admiral_Chicago> Riddell: perhaps Feisty Herd 1 Released ?
[01:50] <Phlegyas> anyways ... since i did paste all that thing here ... anyone knows whats that this ---> The value of variable $myhostname is "PortableThrone", but should have been
[01:50] <Phlegyas>   a fully qualified domain name; perhaps uname(3) did not provide such.  You must explicitly assign a FQDN of this host to variable $myhostname
[01:50] <Admiral_Chicago> is open week necessary?
[01:50] <Admiral_Chicago> it happened already :|
[01:50] <Admiral_Chicago> oh well i'll bbl
[01:50] <Phlegyas> tc Admiral.
[01:51] <Admiral_Chicago> i remember when I got on Edgy Knot 1, everything worked but a few bugs
[01:51] <Riddell> Admiral_Chicago: please change
[01:51] <Riddell> it
[01:52] <Admiral_Chicago> Kubuntu Support Channel | Feisty Herd 1 Released | Edgy has Landed http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ | Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[01:52] <Admiral_Chicago> oh right i don't have ops
[01:54] <Admiral_Chicago> /topic Kubuntu Support Channel | Feisty Herd 1 Released | Edgy has Landed http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ | Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[01:54] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm no luck. oh well
[02:00] <nata1> im trying to install the new NVIDIA drivers, but to do that, i need to kill X.
[02:00] <nata1> how do i kill X?
[02:01] <nata1> seems like its kinda standard/default and auto-restarts once you close it..
[02:01] <nata1> is that the case?
[02:01] <sasha_> nata1 stop service kdm/gdm, then ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:02] <binary2k2> nata1: other wasy around
[02:02] <binary2k2> if you kill kdm, your X server wll go
[02:04] <binary2k2> log out, stop kdm, install drivers, start kdm
[02:04] <ZeuGiRDoR> hello everone
[02:04] <ZeuGiRDoR> how can I manage my zen micro on KDE?
[02:05] <binary2k2> ZeuGiRDoR: have you tried Amarok ?
[02:05] <ZeuGiRDoR> binary2k2: yes, amarok doesn't support creative zen devices
[02:08] <nata1> great
[02:08] <nata1> that was real smart of me
[02:08] <binary2k2> ZeuGiRDoR: what about Banshee?
[02:08] <nata1> installing the nvidia drivers
[02:08] <nata1> now x wont even start!
[02:09] <binary2k2> yeah, that seems to happen a lot with nvidia drivers
[02:09] <ZeuGiRDoR> binary2k2: i'm using gnomad2 and works fine, but i prefer KDE applications
[02:10] <binary2k2> ZeuGiRDoR: take a look at the wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Zen#Other_related_software
[02:10] <ZeuGiRDoR> binary2k2: thanks!
[02:11] <binary2k2> :)
[02:12] <ZeuGiRDoR> seems that KZenExplorer is exactly what i'm looking for
[02:13] <Admiral_Chicago> !update
[02:13] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[02:26] <Admiral_Chicago> !release
[02:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[02:30] <schueler> ...
[02:40] <mathieu_> is it possible to test herd 1 without the CD? ie. just changing the sources.list edgy=>feisty ?
[02:41] <Jucato> mathieu_: yes, but it's not recommended to do it on your main OS/machine
[02:41] <mathieu_> I know I got a machine for that purpose. it actually makes the transition at job smoother when time comes :)
[02:42] <Admiral_Chicago> mathieu_: go nuts then
[02:42] <binary2k2> yaeh, upgrading to edgy bit by bit was much easier that full upgrade from dapper
[02:43] <Admiral_Chicago> breezy -- dapper was rock solid for me
[02:43] <gnomefreak> mathieu_: keep in mind dbus = broken apt= broken sun-java5-plugin = broken
[02:44] <binary2k2> was easy for me too, the edgy upgrade from dapper was hell
[02:44] <mathieu_> woah Ill wait for apt to be fixed then
[02:45] <gnomefreak> there are more things broken but those seem to be the most noticible atm
[02:45] <Guardian> hi
[02:45] <Guardian> what's the best way to join active directory ??? pam_krb5 ? winbind ?
[02:46] <binary2k2> apt wasn't the problem, it was the police chances, with xorg for instance
[02:48] <gnomefreak> binary2k2: for dapper > edgy was the naming for the X packages
[02:48] <gnomefreak> binary2k2: me and mathieu_ were talking about feisty he wanted to upgrade
[02:48] <KomiaPoika> how can i install xv 3.10a in ubuntu?
[02:48] <Ash-Fox> !swf-player
[02:48] <binary2k2> that's what i mean, i delt with that months before edgy came out, so i was prepared :p
[02:48] <ubotu> swf-player: Mozilla plugin for SWF files (Macromedia Flash). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.6-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 188 kB
[02:50] <binary2k2> gnomefreak: i'm goning to upgrade to feisty fot that reson, you find the problrms sooner, plus i'm a bleeding edgy type of guy :p
[02:51] <Danker> Hi
[02:52] <Danker> Can anyone say how to use bluetooth on kubuntu?
[02:52] <Danker> How to turn it on?
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> !bluetooth
[02:53] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> that might be a good place to start
[02:53] <Danker> I tried echo 1 > /proc/acpi/asus/bled    but it doesn't work...
[02:53] <Danker> thanks
[02:56] <ehird> you people just can't take a break from releasing can you
[02:56] <ehird> with that said, how do i upgrade
[02:57] <binary2k2> here come the bot
[02:57] <binary2k2> !upgrade
[02:57] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[02:57] <ehird> ow
[02:57] <ehird> i'm on edgy.
[02:57] <ehird> I was referring to "Feisty Herd 1 Released "
[02:57] <binary2k2> the Feisty Herd 1 Released is a pre-release
[02:57] <Admiral_Chicago> ehird: Feisty is development
[02:58] <ehird> yes.
[02:58] <binary2k2> like when edgy was knot-1
[02:58] <ehird> i want to break my machine! i mean upgrade
[02:58] <Admiral_Chicago> 6 months release cycles is great
[02:59] <mathieu_> the safest path probably remains apt-get install vmware-player :)
[02:59] <binary2k2> tho the last one was only 4 months, and i kinda liked it :p
[03:00] <ehird> mathieu_: safe? what is this safe you mean? if i want a unix based system that >doesn't< crap out and require me to hex edit the kernel, i could use mac os x! :P
[03:01] <binary2k2> to be fair tho, I have fount the development versions of kubuntu to be surprisingly stable
[03:01] <_kuja_> In my experience they were fairly broken ....
[03:03] <mathieu_> well broken apt scares me
[03:03] <mathieu_> that and broken networking...
[03:03] <binary2k2> learn the power behind apt, dpkg
[03:07] <ehird> so... nobody? <.<
[03:08] <binary2k2> huh, what?
[03:09] <mathieu_> im pretty sure sudo sed -e s/\sedgy/ feisty/g -i /etc/apt/sources.list would work
[03:09] <binary2k2> oh, updateing :p
[03:09] <gnomefreak> mathieu_: apt should be fixed soon. the fix was uploaded first thing this morning so we should see it by end of day i would hope but theres no telling ive been waiting for a few weeks on a smart fix. but there is a work around on the apt and one of the dbus issues
[03:10] <binary2k2> yeah, change sources.list, as there is no official way for now
[03:11] <mathieu_> gnomefreak: ok. but im creating my vmware image right now so I know what surprises lie ahead first... this is a dev setup, but i still dont want to lose it right now :) Ill upgrade my main disk once i figured out how to fix everything in my virtual img...
[03:12] <gnomefreak> mathieu_: ok i stay fairly up-to-date with bugs. so feelfree to ping me in #ubuntu+1 if you need something. i will be around later today i need to get back to sleep soon i was up way too early
[03:13] <mathieu_> cool ty.
[03:15] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:15] <gnomefreak> like konqueror has some KHTML issues
[03:15] <homer> hi, is it normal that kubuntu uses about 550mb ram?
[03:15] <gnomefreak> :(
[03:16] <ehird> probably not
[03:16] <ehird> oh
[03:16] <ehird> yes it is
[03:16] <binary2k2> homer: most of that will be the cache
[03:16] <ehird> it's the cache
[03:16] <ehird> don't worry
[03:16] <homer> which color is the cache?
[03:16] <homer> the yellow one
[03:16] <homer> ?
[03:17] <binary2k2> on mine its dark green
[03:17] <binary2k2> but i may have changes the colors :p
[03:18] <homer> is there a way to stop/uninstall some features which i dont need in a safe way?
[03:18] <homer> like bluetooth programs
[03:19] <phlasphy_> hey all
[03:19] <phlasphy_> can i hang here if i dont use kubuntu
[03:19] <binary2k2> ahh, that can be an issue, you may end up removing kubuntu-desktop, which is safe, but you need it when you want to upgrade, so will just end up having to reinstall them
[03:20] <mathieu_> but you could just disable the services
[03:20] <homer> hmm..seems not to be a noobquest?
[03:21] <binary2k2> yeah, you can disable services in the service manager
[03:21] <mathieu_> i dont remember the name of the app to do this
[03:21] <mathieu_> ksysinit?
[03:21] <mathieu_> well its part of kcontrol anyway I believe
[03:21] <binary2k2> ksysv
[03:22] <binary2k2> and yes, it's in kcontrol and system settings
[03:22] <mathieu_> wow it doesnt look anything like before heh
[03:24] <Jucato> System Settings -> Advanced -> System Services?
[03:24] <binary2k2> yeah
[03:24] <homer> i think i found it,sounds different in my language
[03:25] <fabo> better avoid ksysv and use guidance module
[03:25] <binary2k2> it's also different in dapper and edgy
[03:25] <homer> so, could i deactivate bluetooth?
[03:25] <homer> without risk for the rest
[03:26] <binary2k2> it just won't start at boot, it's sfae
[03:26] <binary2k2> *safe
[03:26] <mathieu_> basically its the same as sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth stop
[03:26] <binary2k2> yep, except more perminant :p
[03:26] <homer> its: start during boot:yes
[03:27] <binary2k2> so you can un check that, and it wont
[03:27] <homer> now i stopped it,but how to configure that it dont start again on next reboot
[03:28] <homer> ok, found a checkbox
[03:29] <homer> linux is confusing, on win i have about 20 processe, here its like 50?
[03:29] <homer> and i have no idea what they are doin
[03:30] <binary2k2> you wish you had only 20 processes on win, xp uses atleast 40 normaly
[03:30] <binary2k2> it just won't show you them all
[03:31] <homer> dont know, but killed almost all which isnt necessary
[03:34] <homer> ok,next experience. tryin to burn a dvd
[03:34] <binary2k2> ahh, that's easy with k3b
[03:34] <homer> hpoefully
[03:35] <binary2k2> well, depends actually on what you want to burn
[03:35] <homer> hmm. maximum speed 4x ?
[03:35] <binary2k2> i mean what type of media, video/data
[03:36] <homer> ok,its a /rw,   im tryin to burn avi s
[03:36] <homer> from an ntfs partition
[03:36] <homer> is this a problem?
[03:36] <binary2k2> as a data diskm or a DVD video for DVD player?
[03:36] <homer> as data dvd, my player should play it
[03:37] <homer> it does at least under xp
[03:37] <binary2k2> well then it's easy :p
[03:38] <binary2k2> burning data disks under k3b is very nice, simple yet powerful
[03:38] <Admiral_Chicago> @now
[03:38] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: December 06 2006, 14:38:31
[03:38] <Admiral_Chicago> @now chicago
[03:38] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Chicago: December 06 2006, 08:38:35
[03:41] <velle_> msg BearPerson hey, are you there?
[03:41] <velle_> oops
[03:42] <homer> ok,now i have to wait 15 minutes
[03:44] <homer> anyone have wine installed and know "screamer radio" ?
[03:46] <velle_> i think there is a command for getting a list of all available online freenode staffers, anyone remembers it?
[03:47] <binary2k2> velle_: /stats p
[03:47] <binary2k2> velle_: or /who freenode/staff/*
[03:48] <velle_> binary2k2: thanks
[03:48] <binary2k2> np
[03:48] <BluesKaj> howdy all ! :)
[03:49] <binary2k2> howdy back
[03:49] <noob2> how do i reconfigure my pppoeconf settings?
[03:49] <noob2> i want to change my username and pwd since i am at a diff location but it says "timeout" something something PADO
[03:50] <noob2> so believe it or not i am still connected to the internet using the old account!
[03:50] <noob2> pls can someone help
[03:50] <Lynoure> noob2: with what
[03:50] <danny500> I use Open Office Word and my spell check isn't working
[03:51] <BluesKaj> for some reason thunderbird is sending my emails the are written in a different email account with the Home email account address ...how do I change this so the ppl who are filtering unknown addys get my email
[03:51] <noob2> i want to change my username and pwd since i am at a diff location but it says "timeout" something something PADO
[03:51] <noob2> for pppoeconf
[03:52] <xwolf-> !sources
[03:52] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:53] <noob2> Lynoure: hi can you help my modify my username and pwd for pppoeonf?
[03:53] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: Edit -> Account Settings -> choose you account and change the SMTP server
[03:54] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: (near bottom of sttings)
[03:54] <Lynoure> noob2: sorry, I have not ever change a pppeo password.
[03:54] <danny500> Jucato: you here?
[03:54] <Jucato> danny500: yes
[03:55] <danny500> How do I fix my spell check on my Open Office?
[03:55] <danny500> I need english
[03:55] <noob2> Lynoure: ok, do you know what this error message means? Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access Concentrator of your provider did not respond. 
[03:56] <noob2> Can someone help me?
[03:56] <Lynoure> noob2: "timeout something something PADO"? Would help if you quoted it as it actually is...
[03:57] <noob2> Lynoure: ok got it: "Timeout waiting for PADO packets"
[03:58] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, i have the settings different for botyh accounts but if I click on an email address in the the blueskaj message text page the sender address reverts my home account address.
[03:58] <BluesKaj> err, reverts to my home account address
[04:00] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: have you tried changing the default SMTP server?
[04:00] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, so the messages i have sent to ppl who have only my blueskaj acct in their adress books are seeing my home account as  the sender
[04:00] <Lynoure> noob2: According to some sources log file message Timeout waiting for PADO packets indicates a problem with the physical link
[04:01] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, changing default SMTP server to ?
[04:01] <noob2> Lynoure: then how am i connected now?
[04:01] <Lynoure> noob2: You are in a different location than usually? Is it supposed to work from there? What does you broadband provider say?
[04:02] <noob2> yes i am in a different location and a different dsl account - but i think my pc is connecting with the old account - dsl provider doesnt support linux
[04:02] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: if you have more than one, you can set a defult, maybe that will change it
[04:02] <BluesKaj> I'm using SMTP1.'myisp'.ca ... binary2k2
[04:03] <Lynoure> noob2: You _are_ paying them, so they should give you at least some support. (Sorry, I hate spending free time answering  problems that there is someone paid to answer already)
[04:03] <noob2> Lynoure: they dont support linux
[04:04] <Lynoure> noob2: And you are still paying them? Consider changing if you can.
[04:04] <BluesKaj> well binary2k2 , I'll just have to change the adress when i click on a addy
[04:04] <Lynoure> noob2: This might help: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-March/070751.html
[04:05] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: I just tried it, as i have more than 1 setup, and it still default to my default (local) accout
[04:05] <noob2> Lynoure: ok, i will, but if you know what file i should modify please tell me, thanks, i think im running two instances of pppoeconf
[04:06] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: maybe file a frature request on thunderbird
[04:06] <pedroca> como fao pra ir pro ubuntu br?
[04:07] <binary2k2> !br | pedroca
[04:07] <ubotu> pedroca: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:07] <Lynoure> noob2: Nope. Does  man pppoeconf tell you where it keeps it's configurations?
[04:07] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, I just realized there's an options box in the sender's email address above the recipient and i have the option to change sender addresses there.
[04:07] <BluesKaj>  :) DOH!
[04:07] <homer> if i want to install "lame" en/decoder which packet do i have to choose?
[04:07] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: yeah, I thaught you knew that, :p
[04:07] <BluesKaj> nope, but i do now
[04:07] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: but you still have to choose it every time, just don't forget
[04:08] <neosoft> alguien que hable espaol y ayude a un pobre aprendis
[04:08] <neosoft> no se instalar el wine
[04:08] <neosoft> en kubuntu
[04:08] <BluesKaj> yeah , I'm old and i do forget sometimes , binary2k2
[04:08] <||arifaX> homer: I think it is liblame or maybe if you install lame it gets installed by default
[04:08] <noob2> Lynoure: nope im trying to read the link tht u gave
[04:09] <homer> ok, then the just "lame" packet?
[04:09] <||arifaX> homer: think so.
[04:10] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, but i still think the address should be the one that the received  text resides in
[04:11] <BluesKaj> oh well , it's good learn new things everyday , even lil bothersome things like that :)
[04:11] <binary2k2> I agree BluesKaj, I have sent a few emails then realised that it was sent from the wrong adress because I forgot to change it :p
[04:11] <BluesKaj> binary2k2,  :)
[04:12] <Lynoure> noob2: There is usually more people on #ubuntu, perhaps you'd find help there.
[04:13] <BluesKaj> I'm still peeved at mythtv's crappy frontend/backend setup guide .... no mouse access sucks !.. and the nomenclature assumes yer a TV network control room technician ...what gives ?
[04:23] <metro-polisie> can some one PLZ help me i have no domain names and can't set them up
[04:24] <metro-polisie> i got google's ip and shearched freenode's ip just the get here
[04:26] <metro-polisie> i am not 100% sure what the "router's" ip is but i think its 196.25.255.3 but i can't get it to add in the system-settings
[04:26] <metro-polisie> i can add 196.25.254.3 though
[04:32] <klerfayt> does ubuntu edgy default kernel include usb mouse polling patch?
[04:43] <noob2> Lynoure: thanks man the link you posted had some interesting stuff in it that helped me fix this
[04:44] <Lynoure> noob2: you are welcome but actually I'm not a man, I'm a woman.
[04:44] <Lynoure> :)
[04:45] <noob2> oh sorry, im not familiar with french names
[04:45] <ZmAY> hello, how can i install .bin package
[04:45] <noob2> :)
[04:45] <Lynoure> noob2: it's not a French name, it's my name :) noob2 could be either, too
[04:45] <noob2> lol
[04:47] <noob2> noob2 is a guy :)
[04:52] <KomiaPoika> how can i install xv 3.10a in ubuntu?
[04:52] <ehird> i read this:
[04:52] <ehird> Is Automatix2 safe ? Folks in #ubuntu on IRC keep telling me it isn't
[04:52] <ehird>  Yes it is perfectly safe. Thousands of users worldwide use Automatix2 every day without any issues.
[04:52] <ehird> and expected it to be followed by:
[04:52] <ehird> However, millions more use it with critical issues.
[04:52] <ehird> :D
[04:53] <fabio> hi to all
[04:53] <fabio> someone speack italian?
[04:53] <binary2k2> ubuntu don't recomand automatix
[04:54] <binary2k2> infact:
[04:54] <Jucato> !it
[04:54] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:54] <binary2k2> !automatix
[04:54] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:54] <binary2k2> !WorksForMe
[04:54] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:54] <fabio> i have a notebook with intel core 2 duo, and i have installed kubuntu
[04:55] <fabio> 5.10 and now i'm upgrading
[04:55] <fabio> to edgy
[04:55] <ehird> binary2k2: i know
[04:55] <ehird> binary2k2: i was echoing that myself
[04:55] <binary2k2> fabio:  bupgrade to dapper first
[04:55] <binary2k2> *upgrade
[04:56] <binary2k2> ehird: yes, I saw that, I just wanted to make it clear
[04:56] <noob2> bon giorno
[04:56] <binary2k2> ehird: you spend hours trying to rescue a system automatix has hosed, and you get a strng opinion about it :p
[04:56] <fabio> binary2k2...ehm...i'm already upgrading :
[04:56] <TWS> is there any beryl repositories working 4 amd64?
[04:57] <ehird> binary2k2: :P
[04:57] <fabio> it's wrong?
[04:57] <binary2k2> fabio: you should have gone breezy(5.10) -> Dapper(6.06) -> Edgy(6.10)
[04:58] <noob2> Lynoure: do you still have that link you sent me? i kind of lost it when i dced
[04:59] <binary2k2> noob2: this one? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-March/070751.html
[05:00] <noob2> yep thats it! thanks a lot :)
[05:00] <binary2k2> large buffers pay :p
[05:00] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:01] <noob2> hallo
[05:07] <blind> how do i remove an aplication that was installed with $ make install????
[05:07] <jeff_> Hi all.  I have an interesting problem with a Dell port replicator on the M90 portable desktop.  X will only use the VGA cable to my monitor if I am docked.
[05:08] <jeff_> If I simply plug the DVI cable into the laptop it works fine, of course, but plugging in everything manually is kind of a pain
[05:08] <jeff_> This is true while using the monitor standalone and while using it as a second screen
[05:09] <jeff_> Booting into Windows, I can use the port replicator to attach via DVI without a flaw
[05:09] <jeff_> Any ideas?
[05:10] <TheGateKeeper_> blind, well if it doesn't have an uninstaller & you didn't use check install, my guess is that you are stuffed
[05:11] <andrea> ciao
[05:11] <andrea> hello
[05:11] <TheGateKeeper_> checkinstall*
[05:11] <jeff_> blind, if you have the log, then you can use sed and awk to turn the cp statements into RM statements, but this won't guarantee that you don't break something
[05:11] <jeff_> the safer thing is just not to uninstall
[05:11] <BluesKaj> hmmm, I installed DVR using Synaptic ... won't launch from the commandline or start options ..any ideas ?
[05:12] <cntb> !nvidia
[05:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:12] <jeff_> Oh, and I should have mentioned that for my problem, I am using the nvidia drivers, although I get the same problem without them
[05:13] <cntb> !easyubuntu
[05:13] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[05:13] <cntb> where is easyubuntu installed to re-use it?
[05:13] <BluesKaj> !DVR
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DVR - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <blind> 10x
[05:16] <cntb> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html how do I re-use easyubuntu ? need for nvidia mx400
[05:18] <Dr_willis> check the easyubuntu homepage?
[05:18] <Dr_willis> ive never needed to use easyubuntu for my nvidia cards
[05:18] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[05:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:18] <Dr_willis> setting up the nvidia stuff is about a 4 min job. :) or less.
[05:19] <TheGateKeeper_> cntb, well I would look for the specific pacakages you need & use apt-get
[05:19] <cntb> Dr_willis, ty but i failed
[05:19] <cntb> since yesterday
[05:19] <Dr_willis> cntb,  learn, read, try again.
[05:19] <cntb> ty Dr_willis  again
[05:19] <TheGateKeeper_> or in my case don't even bother lol
[05:20] <Dr_willis> most likely you are doing somthing trivially wrong.
[05:20] <cntb> Dr_willis, which is exactly why I am here . precisely
[05:20] <Dr_willis> Then ask for help on that - not 'easyubuntu' which isent officially supported or reccomended.
[05:21] <cntb> why lol TheGateKeeper_ ? is this a good channel for it ?
[05:21] <Julle> Dr_willis do you know what can be wrong when i cant change my resolution with the newest nvidia drivers in kubuntu ?
[05:21] <TheGateKeeper_> cntb, hmmm you got the wrong end of the stick
[05:21] <Dr_willis> Julle,  newest as in ones  just released from nvidia? or the ones from the repos?
[05:21] <cntb> I asked how do I re-use easyubuntu cause I know I installed it yesterday
[05:22] <Julle> Dr_willis downloaded from www.nvidia.com the installer
[05:22] <Julle> about 4 days ago
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Julle,  hard to tell. I dont keep up with the 'cutting edge' drivers that way.
[05:22] <cntb> pls stop TheGateKeeper_  Iam asking politely and know what Iam asking
[05:22] <TheGateKeeper_> cntb, I use nvidia but can't be arsed with the potential problem of setting it up, so I just use the nv driver
[05:22] <cntb> OK ok
[05:22] <Dr_willis> cntb,  you could just to to the easyubuntu page and redownload the thing. its just a little script
[05:22] <Julle> Dr_willis ok, my xorg looks fine but it only gives me 800x600 i cant understand why its so strange
[05:22] <Dr_willis> or LOOK in your dirs and see where it downloaded to
[05:22] <cntb> ah oK
[05:23] <Dr_willis> cntb,  so simple and logical eh?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Julle,  you are manually looking at the xorg.conf ? or using the kde control-thing?
[05:23] <cntb> sometimes I think Dr_willis  ubuntu is too much dependent on the NET
[05:23] <Julle> Dr_willis manually
[05:23] <Dr_willis> cntb,  some times i think users are much too dependent on being 'hand held'
[05:23] <Julle> nano /etc/X11/...
[05:23] <TheGateKeeper_> linux seems to look better than windows using the nv driver so I couldn't see any point in going any further lol
[05:24] <cntb> there was a network outage from telecom here for more than 3 hours
[05:24] <Julle> Dr_willis in KDE system settings for monitor and drivers i can only choose "nv" drivers. but if i look in lsmod nvidia is loaded.
[05:24] <TheGateKeeper_> cntb, are you using games?
[05:25] <BluesKaj> what's the problem when an installed program won't launch from the commandline , for example "dvr" ?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> Julle,  i bet the wiki pages have some info..   You may be the nvidia setup prog totally tweaked your xorg.conf you got an old one backed up from befor the install.. could try using it instead
[05:25] <cntb> btw do you know how to turn 90 degrees the screen nvidia , I do it when I need to see screen from bed lol
[05:25] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  thats rather vague. normally they give an error message.
[05:25] <cntb> yes TheGateKeeper_ my son needs precisely that
[05:25] <TheGateKeeper_> lol
[05:25] <Julle> Dr_willis ok thx
[05:25] <cntb> tuxracer is the test game here
[05:26] <cntb> does that answer your q TheGateKeeper_  ?
[05:26] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, bash: dvr: command not found
[05:26] <TheGateKeeper_> cntb, yeah :-)
[05:26] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  and where is this 'dvr' command supposed to come from?
[05:26] <Dr_willis> either its not installed, or your path is messed up.. or you are using the wrong command.
[05:27] <Dr_willis> nvidia-glx  has some settings/configs for rotation i notice.
[05:27] <cntb> I will paste wrong nvidia xorg.conf here shortly
[05:27] <icheyne> cntb, I think there are instructions for rotation at ubuntuguide.org
[05:27] <Dr_willis> oh wait i dont seeit now..
[05:27] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, it's a program I installed with synaptic ...I figured ir would work from the terminal like others
[05:28] <cntb> ty very much icheyne  for rotation tip
[05:28] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  the package name may NOT be the name of the binary
[05:28] <BluesKaj> i suppose it 's not meant to but how do i use it ?
[05:28] <TheGateKeeper_> l8r folks
[05:28] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. i dont see the rotation stuff in the   nvidia-settings  tool now..
[05:28] <cntb> l8r
[05:28] <Dr_willis> ive seen it mentioned int he nvidia readmens
[05:28] <cntb> \o
[05:28] <icheyne> cntb, :)
[05:28] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  read the programs docs.. use the package manager to see what files it isntalled where
[05:28] <Dr_willis> !info pvr
[05:28] <ubotu> Package pvr does not exist in any distro I know
[05:29] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  since i have no clue what 'dvr' even is
[05:29] <Dr_willis> !info dvr
[05:29] <ubotu> dvr: Digital Video Recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2-8ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 320 kB, installed size 980 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:29] <Dr_willis> could be its used by other tools.
[05:29] <binary2k2> would it be /usr/bin/dvr-console
[05:29] <cntb> btw Dr_willis  do >>  sudo apt-cache search nvidia to see other nvidia tool yesterday I tried to ask the difference here
[05:30] <cntb> I prepared much faster windows desktops for end users than in linux
[05:30] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, nope
[05:30] <cntb> maybe one can see my frustration
[05:31] <Dr_willis> cntb,  some of the tools are for the older nvidia cards.. some are for newer
[05:31] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: well the dvr package only has 2 files in /usr/bin, dvr-console and dvr-qtgui
[05:32] <cntb> how can one tell Dr_willis  . I am almost sure from !nvidia my card doenot fall into legacy
[05:32] <Dr_willis> cntb,  if nvidia would let ubuntu/kubuntu include the drivers... we wouldent be having these problems.. you can see our  'frustration'
[05:32] <cntb> other PC at lab suited nvidia-glx-legacy
[05:32] <Dr_willis> cntb,  check the nvidia wiki page. and the nvidia docs I guess.
[05:33] <Dr_willis> http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-a.html
[05:33] <cntb> so what sudo apt-get is a trick ? to not include in package ? I dont get it ?
[05:33] <Dr_willis> apt-get installs somthing
[05:33] <Dr_willis> not sure what you mean by 'trick'
[05:33] <cntb> checkinn that link . what use ccan I have of it Dr_willis  ?
[05:34] <Dr_willis> if you have some of the older cards - you need the  older legacy drivers,, newre card you can use the newer drivers
[05:34] <Dr_willis> geforce 4 - counts as a 'newer' card
[05:34] <cntb> trick about having restricted without including it Dr_willis . not difficult ;-)
[05:35] <cntb> wait wanna paste things
[05:35] <Dr_willis> you need the 'restricted' modules for your kernel.
[05:35] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, i have neither dvr file that you listed :(
[05:35] <Dr_willis> they are not included by default on the cd.
[05:36] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: then you don't have the package installed
[05:37] <BluesKaj> weird cuz i used Synaptic,
[05:37] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: ckeck with dpkg --list|grep dvr
[05:38] <Dr_willis> for edgy,  i think all i needed to do to get nvidia stuff working (the doc seems a little out of date)
[05:38] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-commin nvidia-glx
[05:38] <Dr_willis> oops spelt it wrong
[05:39] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx
[05:39] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, :dvr ,3.2-8ubuntu1, Digital Video Recorder
[05:40] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: huh, then it should be installed
[05:41] <BluesKaj> It's not listed in Multimedis in the kicker
[05:41] <Dr_willis> i cant seem to find any 'dvr' packages on this system
[05:42] <Dr_willis> there it is.. :) had to click 'show installable' lol
[05:42] <Dr_willis> DVR is a tool to record movies on a computer equipped with a Video4Linux-compatible video capture card.
[05:42] <Dr_willis> Website: http://dvr.sourceforge.net
[05:42] <binary2k2> BluesKaj: running the command directly /usr/bin/dvr-qtgui from the run dialog, if you get it running, you can setup a menu item
[05:42] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, I found 2 files in the search option...but they appear to be just text files
[05:43] <kay> !de
[05:43] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:44] <BluesKaj> the driver doesn't provide a correct size for memory mapping. DVR tries to correct this error, but some strange things may happend, you are warned.
[05:44] <BluesKaj> Can't map memory for capture : Invalid argument
[05:51] <LordOllie> anybody else using kubuntu (x86 release) on a Turion 64 x2?
[05:53] <Dr_willis> not on an x2 LordOllie
[05:53] <Dr_willis> but my x86 kubuntu works on my turion laptop fine.
[05:56] <TFrog> has anyone here installed kubuntu on a purely wireless network where they didn't have a wired connection?
[05:57] <LordOllie> Dr_willis: it isn't detecting my second processor :(
[05:57] <Dr_willis> LordOllie,  how are yuo looking for it? :)
[05:57] <LordOllie> using the command kinfocenter
[05:58] <Dr_willis> try cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:59] <LordOllie> ok, yep... there it is... thanks
[05:59] <BluesKaj> binary2k2, this the output when launching /usr/bin/dvr-qtgui from the run dialog :*** WARNING *** : the driver doesn't provide a correct size for memory mapping. DVR tries to correct this error, but some strange things may happen. Can't map memory for capture : Invalid argument
[06:01] <BluesKaj> I guess DVR isn't supported by my ATI drivers
[06:01] <binary2k2> maybe not
[06:01] <BluesKaj> anyway..I have snow to push ..BBL
[06:01] <binary2k2> :p
[06:02] <LordOllie> DVR is not supported by anything
[06:02] <binary2k2> only by a "Video4Linux-compatible video capture card", if they exist
[06:03] <binary2k2> (in the wild)
[06:04] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  you have an ATI tv tuner card?
[06:05] <BluesKaj> yup tv wonder pro
[06:05] <Dr_willis> You poor guy........
[06:05] <BluesKaj> hehe
[06:05] <Dr_willis> good luck with getting that thing to do muchof anything in linux
[06:06] <the-erm> I don't recommend getting a DVR ... for tv anyways.  They are so flaky.  No you can't use that brand of disk .. just this one.  Why not??  My vcr would take any brand of tape.
[06:06] <the-erm> I had an ati wonder working in linux, but it fired out.
[06:06] <BluesKaj> xdtv worked for a bit...I have a sat receiver feeding video into the card , not really using ther tuner part of it
[06:06] <Dr_willis> the newest PVR/DVR's ive seen can take most any dvd+-r/rws - depends on the drive.. the newest ones ive seen can even play divx/and other formats as well
[06:07] <Dr_willis> Tempted to get one for divx playing :)
[06:07] <the-erm> I got a crappy el cheapo ilo.
[06:08] <BluesKaj> is there a prog that will just record the video and audio at line level ?
[06:08] <the-erm> I will never buy ilo again.  Sometimes you can buy cheap stuff, and it works great.
[06:08] <Dr_willis> Hen - my ILO is workign good..
[06:08] <BluesKaj> what's ILO?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> the dvd drive is flakey.. but i got the thing 'hacked' so i can record from VCR to it. and  a few other tweaks.
[06:09] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  a LOW end brand of PVR/DVR from walmart
[06:09] <the-erm> You must have a DVDR04.
[06:09] <BluesKaj> hehe
[06:09] <Dr_willis> the-erm,  yep.
[06:09] <BluesKaj> ok
[06:09] <the-erm> really low.
[06:09] <Dr_willis> mother in law uses it for her soap operas
[06:09] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:09] <Dr_willis> and to convert vcr tapes to dvd.
[06:09] <BluesKaj> well gotta go do my drive...lotsa snaow last nite ..BBL
[06:10] <the-erm> I like my PVR from the cable company.
[06:10] <the-erm> 2 tuners.
[06:10] <Dr_willis> i cant ever find anything on worth watching... much less 2 shows at the same time... :)
[06:10] <the-erm> So you can record 2 tv shows, and watch a pre-recorded one.
[06:11] <the-erm> 2 kids *lots* of kids shows.
[06:11] <Dr_willis> Heh...
[06:11] <Dr_willis> Dora the Exolorer!
[06:12] <the-erm> It's almost like you live here.
[06:12] <Dr_willis> Teach the kids spanish!
[06:12] <the-erm> I used to love tellitubbies in the morning after being awake all night, and half comatose.
[06:13] <the-erm> Now it's just a sick joke.
[06:13] <Dr_willis> It alwas was sick... :)
[06:19] <toma> does anyone have time to help me get some sound out of my computer?I have a VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller
[06:20] <the-erm> play with alsamixer
[06:21] <toma> the-erm: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[06:21] <the-erm> hmm.
[06:22] <toma> the-erm: via82cxxx is in the lsmod
[06:22] <Admiral_Chicago> !fuse
[06:22] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:22] <the-erm> ls /dev/snd/
[06:22] <toma> the-erm: does not exist here
[06:22] <the-erm> hmm ls /dev/dsp
[06:23] <toma> the-erm: crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 Dec  6 17:33 /dev/dsp
[06:23] <the-erm> ok
[06:23] <the-erm> groups
[06:24] <toma> hmpf, you know the answer
[06:24] <the-erm> audio?
[06:24] <kay> !de
[06:24] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:24] <toma> nope
[06:25] <dan_b> help I'm having a prob
[06:25] <dan_b> An error occurred while loading audiocd:/:
[06:25] <dan_b> Device doesn't have read permissions for this account.  Check the read permissions on the device.
[06:25] <the-erm> then add yourself as a member to audio.
[06:25] <the-erm> I think it's sudo kuser
[06:26] <the-erm> er kdesu kuser might work better.
[06:26] <dan_b> I've changed the permissions on the dev and mount point no joy
[06:26] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone have any luck scanning an ntfs partition for viruses in kubuntu
[06:26] <Admiral_Chicago> i know ntfs sucks and is expiremental whatever
[06:27] <Admiral_Chicago> i just want to know if I can use like AVG for Linux and save this partition
[06:27] <the-erm> Man I'm totally off on this one ... I have my system set up so I can just su and run stuff with no problems.  I don't use the sudo command.
[06:27] <toma> the-erm: does not seem to mae a difference
[06:27] <the-erm> You might need to restart X ctrl+alt+backspace, at the very least you'll need to close your konsole, and open a new one.
[06:27] <dan_b> can any one help
[06:28] <the-erm> then type  in groups again.
[06:28] <toma> the-erm: hm. okay.
[06:28] <binary2k2> dan_b: what are the permissions on your cd drive?
[06:28] <the-erm> For some strange reason groups is cached ...
[06:29] <dan_b> i've set it to rwx everyone
[06:29] <dan_b> chmod 777
[06:29] <binary2k2> dan_b: did you logout/back in after you changed the permissions?
[06:30] <dan_b> know but re mounted cd rom
[06:30] <toma> the-erm: you rock
[06:30] <dan_b> sorry no
[06:30] <llutz> changes in groups always need a re-login to take effect
[06:30] <the-erm> does it work now toma ?
[06:30] <binary2k2> dan_b: you don't mount an audio CD
[06:30] <dan_b> sorry ejected and re inserted
[06:31] <the-erm> I am pleased.
[06:31] <binary2k2> dan_b: you still need to logout/back in, for the permissions to take effect
[06:31] <llutz> dan_b: are you member of group "cdrom"?
[06:32] <dan_b> thank you I'll give it a try and be back in a min
[06:32] <toma> the-erm: yes, kde startup gave me a nice sound
[06:32] <toma> the-erm: thanks
[06:32] <binary2k2> llutz: he went and chmod 777 /dev/cdrom :p
[06:32] <the-erm> Good.  I am pleased.
[06:33] <llutz> binary2k2: stupid solution :)
[06:33] <the-erm> weird 2 group problems in less than 15 min.
[06:34] <binary2k2> llutz: i know, it will go back to normal permissions next reboot anyway
[06:34] <llutz> binary2k2: despite that, it's never a good idea to change a device zo 777
[06:35] <binary2k2> nope :p
[06:36] <[GuS] > Re
[06:39] <rag> please somebody help me with hplip and multinfunction hp ?
[06:39] <cntb> hi tiptip   ?
[06:40] <tiptip> sababa
[06:40] <binary2k2> !il > cntb
[06:41] <tiptip> :D
[06:41] <cntb>  NVIDIA
[06:41] <cntb> binary2k2,  ?
[06:42] <burepe_> How do I view apache documentation?
[06:42] <cntb> binary2k2, you are being nice right ? tyvm
[06:43] <binary2k2> cntb: #kubuntu is an english language channel, there are local language channels
[06:43] <dan_b> arghhh still the same prob
[06:44] <dan_b> An error occurred while loading audiocd:/:
[06:44] <kay> #gimp-de
[06:44] <dan_b> Device doesn't have read permissions for this account.  Check the read permissions on the device.
[06:44] <binary2k2> dan_b: in konsole do ls -l /dev/hdc (if hdc is your cd drive)
[06:44] <llutz> dan_b: "ls -l /dev/<your-cdrom-device>"
[06:44] <binary2k2> snap! :p
[06:44] <llutz> <- loses
[06:44] <binary2k2> :D
[06:46] <dan_b> no its my other cdrom
[06:46] <binary2k2> well do that command on whatever device your using
[06:46] <dan_b> cheers i'll give it a go
[06:48] <Admiral_Chicago> @now chicago
[06:48] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Chicago: December 06 2006, 11:48:27
[06:50] <Dasnipa`> @now pakistan
[06:50] <cntb> !alternatives
[06:50] <ubotu> To change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.
[06:50] <dan_b> still giving me grief
[06:51] <dan_b> i've chowned the drive to me dan, no joy
[06:51] <dan_b> brwxrwxrwx 1 dan cdrom 22, 0 2006-12-06 17:33 /dev/hdc
[06:52] <llutz> dan_b: does "id" show you as member of group "cdrom"?
[06:52] <binary2k2> dan_b: you shouldn't chown, or chmod it, just make sure you're in cdrom group
[06:52] <dan_b> id 24(cdrom)
[06:52] <llutz> Geld genug
[06:52] <llutz> ups
[06:53] <dan_b> I've chowned it back to root
[06:53] <binary2k2> dan_b: what application are you tryng use?
[06:54] <dan_b> to see the files in konqueror
[06:54] <dan_b> I can play the tracks in Kaffine
[06:54] <binary2k2> will it play in kaffine or anarok?
[06:54] <dan_b> wont play in amarok
[06:55] <dan_b> will in kaffeine
[06:55] <dan_b> strange
[06:55] <the-erm> maybe one is trying to use /dev/dsp and the other alsa.
[06:55] <binary2k2> so you must have read access then
[06:56] <dan_b> yes I think so just cany view the ogg folders
[06:57] <dan_b> By the way binary thanks for you're help
[06:57] <dan_b> much appreciated
[06:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Hi everyone
[06:57] <binary2k2> your welcome dan_b
[06:59] <dan_b> Kaffine can read from the disk but Konqueror
[06:59] <dan_b> cant
[06:59] <binary2k2> is it an audio disk, or a data disk with audio files on it?
[07:01] <dan_b> audio disks
[07:01] <the-erm> That would make sense.
[07:01] <binary2k2> don't hurt to check :p
[07:02] <dan_b> but why wont amarok play them
[07:02] <compart1> alguem sabe um msn bom para usar no kubuntu???
[07:03] <MilhousePunkRock> Did someone alter the splash screen to make it silver instead of blue and put it on kdelook.org maybe?
[07:03] <binary2k2> !br | compart1
[07:03] <ubotu> compart1: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[07:03] <MilhousePunkRock> !es
[07:03] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:03] <compart1> alguem sabe um msn bom para usar no kubuntu???
[07:03] <binary2k2> dan_b: I don't know, maybe amarok uses the same system as konq and kaffine dosen't?
[07:04] <cntb> compart1, sudo apt-get install amsn maybe?
[07:04] <dan_b> konq is just a file browser though isn't it
[07:04] <binary2k2> kopete works with msn
[07:04] <MilhousePunkRock> compart1: Kopete can handle msn easily
[07:04] <the-erm> You could rip the CD, and then it would definitely play it.
[07:04] <cntb> amsn shows hebrew backwards i one flaw compart1 . hebrew is read right to left
[07:05] <binary2k2> dan_b: yes, and no, it uses a sort of plugin system kalled kio, and I know amarok uses that too
[07:05] <cntb> compart1, gaim can handle msn modestly but steady
[07:05] <the-erm> Does that mean page 1 is on the right side?
[07:05] <BluesKaj> amsn works
[07:05] <cntb> compart1, alt-f2 gaim enter
[07:05] <dan_b> that sounds like the prob
[07:05] <dan_b> new to kde
[07:06] <compart1> milhouse, impossible find the package
[07:06] <_kuja_> ... fortunately enough, all of the kde multimedia applications worth their salt will use the same intermediary backend in kde4 :)
[07:06] <binary2k2> dan_b: maybe file a bug report against konq, or a support request on launchpad.net
[07:06] <BluesKaj> !kde multimedia
[07:06] <ubuntu> #kubuntu-it
[07:06] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:47 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[07:07] <dan_b> cheers mate, thanks for all you're time and effort
[07:07] <the-erm> Didn't even think of that.
[07:07] <MilhousePunkRock> compart1: Kopete? I can hardly imagine that, I think it even gets installed by default
[07:07] <binary2k2> no probam
[07:07] <binary2k2> MilhousePunkRock: yes, it's installed by default
[07:07] <cntb> my alt-tab function in kde is gone . what have I done what is the way to have alt+tab back
[07:08] <compart1> cntb, , impossible find the package
[07:08] <compart1> cntb, impossible find the package
[07:08] <cntb> why compart1
[07:08] <the-erm> alt+shift+tab  ???
[07:08] <binary2k2> cntb: check in: System Settings -> Ketboard -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[07:08] <binary2k2> *keyboard
[07:08] <cntb> then you need to have enabled universe and multiverse
[07:09] <the-erm> That was my next guess.
[07:09] <binary2k2> would help if i could spell :p
[07:09] <cntb> ty binary2k2
[07:09] <cube__> Q: i got the ATI drivers for my video card and it said it would install byitself, but KATE opens it, and im like.....hu?? what i do here
[07:09] <jessy_> hi all, something weird happening, I plug a usb hard drive, it appear and get mounted automatically, but then the "safely remove" option on the dialog doesn't have any effect (no error message, but still mounted when I list mounted drive with df)
[07:09] <cntb> compart1,
[07:09] <cntb> !universe
[07:09] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:09] <kevin_> hi ....
[07:09] <MilhousePunkRock> !kopete
[07:09] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 6825 kB, installed size 18932 kB
[07:09] <binary2k2> cube__: in konsole: sudo sh fine_name.bin
[07:10] <gmparskI> people, I need help, I can't find my USB drives in the media folder
[07:10] <the-erm> jessy_: I'm guessing it's still accessing the data on the drive somewhere.  Usually it won't unmout if it's busy.
[07:10] <FlightOfStairs> hey people
[07:10] <jessy_> the-erm, it would give me an errer message, beside I'm certain it was't acceses, I checked with lsof
[07:10] <binary2k2> gmparskI: can you see them when you type in konsole "lsusb" ?
[07:10] <compart1> no sei como instalar o msn
[07:10] <compart1> alguem me ajufdaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[07:11] <gmparskI> binary2k2, yes I do
[07:11] <FlightOfStairs> is there any way to tell how much bandwidth a process is using?
[07:11] <the-erm> jessy_: maybe you could umount as root ? see what that does.
[07:12] <the-erm> FlightOfStairs: I'm not sure about BW but top is a pretty good display.
[07:12] <compart1> alguem sabe umbommsn para kubuntu????
[07:12] <gmparskI> binary2k2, yes I can*
[07:12] <FlightOfStairs> it doesnt have it
[07:12] <compart1> alguem sabe um bom msn para kubuntu????
[07:12] <jessy_> the-erm, yeah but as the computer is for my sister, I'd like things to work well, I just wanted to know if it was a known issue with edgy in fact, apparently not :/
[07:12] <gmparskI> typo :P
[07:12] <binary2k2> gmparskI: ok, remove the device(s) and in konsole type "tail -F /var/log/messages" then insert one of them, and look for output on the konsole
[07:12] <nelson_> compart1: aMSN
[07:13] <compart1> i have the package for the other instant messenger, but i dont know istall the package. I 'll install the gaim, but i dont locate
[07:13] <compart1> nelson, i try
[07:13] <gmparskI> binary2k2, it can see them or whatever
[07:13] <cube__> sudo sh fine_name.bin - sh: cant open file name
[07:13] <cube__> :-/
[07:13] <gmparskI> binary2k2, but how do I get to them
[07:14] <gmparskI> ?
[07:14] <binary2k2> cube__: replace file_name.bin with the name of the file you downloaded
[07:14] <cube__> i did
[07:14] <cube__> and it said
[07:14] <cube__> it coudnt open it
[07:14] <MilhousePunkRock> compart1: Press Alt-F2 and type "gaim"
[07:14] <binary2k2> gmparskI: type lsmod|grep usb
[07:14] <binary2k2> gmparskI: do you get output?
[07:14] <compart1> milhouse, not work] 
[07:14] <cube__> ati-driver-installer-8.31.5-x86.x86_64.run
[07:14] <cube__> this is it
[07:14] <nelson_> compart1: usa sudo apt-get install amsn
[07:15] <binary2k2> cube__: try running "chmod +x file" on the file first
[07:15] <binary2k2> cube__: so run "chmod +x ati-driver-installer-8.31.5-x86.x86_64.run"
[07:15] <binary2k2> cube__: then "sudo sh ati-driver-installer-8.31.5-x86.x86_64.run"
[07:15] <nelson_> compart1; amsn 0.95 est en los repositorios
[07:16] <compart1> nelson,  Impossvel achar pacote amsn
[07:17] <gmparskI> binary2k2, no I dont
[07:18] <gmparskI> wait
[07:18] <gmparskI> binary2k2, yes I do
[07:18] <cube__> i ran chmod +x on the RUN command and nothing happens....then i went to konsole and ran sudo sh ati-driver-installer-8.31.5-x86.x86_64.run and it says SH cant open file
[07:18] <nelson_> compart1: mira aqu http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=amsn&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all
[07:19] <binary2k2> cube__: do ls -l ati-driver-installer-8.31.5-x86.x86_64.run make sure it's something like: rwxr-xr-x
[07:19] <binary2k2> cube__: and try: sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8.31.5-x86.x86_64.run
[07:19] <gmparskI> binary2k2, actually I dont know, it says usb_storage            82240  0, so Im not sure
[07:19] <binary2k2> gmparskI: is that the only line?
[07:20] <gmparskI> no
[07:20] <gmparskI> there are 4 lines
[07:20] <binary2k2> gmparskI: use pastebin
[07:20] <binary2k2> !pastebin
[07:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:20] <gmparskI> !pastebin
[07:20] <gmparskI> !pastebin
[07:20] <gmparskI> pelle@ubuntu:~$ lsmod|grep usb
[07:20] <gmparskI> usbhid                 43040  0
[07:20] <gmparskI> usb_storage            82240  0
[07:20] <gmparskI> usbcore               147132  5 usbhid,usb_storage,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
[07:20] <gmparskI> scsi_mod              160504  6 sr_mod,sbp2,sg,usb_storage,sd_mod,libata
[07:21] <ismael_> estoy intentando  convertir nombres de ficcheros de utf a iso y me dice iso-8859-15 doesn't cover all needed characters for:  nombre fichero. Qu puedo hacer?
[07:21] <binary2k2> gmparskI: you're suposed to go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and paste it in there :p
[07:21] <gmparskI> binary2k2, XD http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35613/
[07:21] <zorglu_> !es | ismael_
[07:21] <ubotu> ismael_: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:22] <FlightOfStairs> found a solution for listing processes by bandwidth if anyone needs it btw: http://nethogs.sourceforge.net/
[07:22] <binary2k2> gmparskI: try: sudo modprobe libusual
[07:23] <gmparskI> binary2k2, FATAL: Module libusual not found.
[07:23] <binary2k2> gmparskI: try: what kernel are you running? (uname -r)
[07:23] <justincredible> Is anyone here handy with configuring integrated bluetooth?
[07:23] <gmparskI> 2.6.15-27-amd64-generic
[07:23] <gmparskI> binary2k2, 2.6.15-27-amd64-generic
[07:24] <kevin_> i fear i know the answer, but is there any way to retrieve a lost su password?
[07:24] <binary2k2> kevin_: sudo passwd root
[07:24] <mducharme> sudo passwd root
[07:24] <zorglu_> FlightOfStairs: thanks i needed something like that :)
[07:24] <ismael_> I'm converting file names from utf to iso with convmv but I have this  error: iso-8859-15 doesn't cover all needed characters for  filename. What can I do?
[07:24] <FlightOfStairs> np :)
[07:25] <kevin_> hey thx folks
[07:26] <ehird> anybody know a really accurate speed test?
[07:26] <ehird> i've hit 500KB/sec steady in DLs but most are reporting 200KB/sec or so
[07:27] <zorglu_> yep, take a server which has plenty of bandwidth and download from it
[07:27] <kevin_> www.speedmeter.nl
[07:27] <binary2k2> gmparskI: I don't know, you have the modules loaded, but it's not showing up? do you have any devices in /dev like /dev/sda1 ?
[07:27] <nelson_> ehird: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
[07:28] <cube__> binary2k2= THaNKS the udo sh ati-driver-installer-8.31.5-x86.x86_64.run  Worked fine
[07:28] <gmparskI> binary2k2, I cant find a /dev/sda1
[07:28] <zorglu_> maouaou :)
[07:28] <binary2k2> cube__: great :D
[07:28] <ehird> nelson_: yeah...but it's reporting like 1800kilobit when I know i can hit 5000kilobit
[07:28] <zorglu_> speedmeter.de test the network speed without using the network :)
[07:28] <cube__> and i was getting a litle fustrated, but knowing the commands make it easier than windows, cool , illook and read more into this thanks alot!
[07:29] <zorglu_> ehird: download the ubuntu iso via http from the closest mirror
[07:29] <nelson_> ehird: try another server..
[07:29] <ehird> zorglu_: that doesn't really count as a speed test :p
[07:29] <binary2k2> gmparskI: just grasping at straws here but, try sudo modprobe scsi_mod
[07:29] <ehird> nelson_: they're all in the us. i'm in the UK
[07:29] <zorglu_> ehird: it is
[07:29] <MilhousePunkRock> ehird: That can be related to the server you download from... Not all are as fast as they could be for you
[07:29] <zorglu_> ehird: the only one i know to work
[07:30] <nelson_> ehird: I'm en Venezuela...
[07:30] <ehird> nelson_: meh i'll try
[07:30] <gmparskI> nothing happened
[07:30] <zorglu_> hehe he doesnt listen to me :)
[07:30] <gmparskI> binary2k2, nothing happened
[07:30] <zorglu_> the hard part is not to have the asnwer but to convince the guy that is the answer :)
[07:31] <binary2k2> gmparskI: check for something like /dev/sda1 now
[07:31] <ehird> HAHA. Los angeles server is absolutely dead
[07:32] <ehird> it says i can get the whopping 12KB/sec download
[07:32] <nelson_> ehird: sometimes I use http://www.2wire.com/ but it give's me the highest readings
[07:33] <gmparskI> binary2k2, I can't find anything called sda1
[07:33] <MilhousePunkRock> ehird: Your ISP might even have a speedtest on his homepage
[07:34] <binary2k2> gmparskI: I'm lost then, I have the same modules as you loaded (except for that libusual one), and I can see USB disks.
[07:34] <ehird> MilhousePunkRock: possibly, but obivously the connection to them would be fast
[07:34] <MilhousePunkRock> ehird: Yeah, that is most reliable...
[07:35] <ehird> MilhousePunkRock: i prefer "accurate" - just because i can max everything out because it's their local servers doesn't mean i'll ever get that :)
[07:35] <gmparskI> binary2k, but like I can see them, but not the files
[07:35] <gmparskI> binary2k2, I see folders under /media, but I don't see any files inside
[07:35] <binary2k2> gmparskI: they are just the mount points
[07:35] <compart1> alguemmeajuda a instalar ummsn bom para kubuntu
[07:36] <gmparskI> binary2k2, and they don't update if I change stuff, I've tried putting stuff in them using krusader, but it stays there even after I disconnect
[07:36] <compart1> alguem me ajuda a instalar ummsn bom para kubuntu
[07:36] <compart1> alguem me ajuda a instalar um msn bom para kubuntu
[07:36] <MilhousePunkRock> ehird: If you prefer accurate, screw the tests and see what you get in reality...
[07:36] <binary2k2> gmparskI: then the devices arent mounted there
[07:36] <gmparskI> binary2k2, do you find your USB stuff under /media?
[07:36] <ehird> what the hell, my isp's homepage has an advert for their services which has a copy+paste from a cyanide & happiness comic
[07:36] <gmparskI> binary2k2, do you know how to mount?
[07:36] <agente2012> compart1: instala amsn o gaim
[07:36] <agente2012> tambien puedes usar kopete
[07:37] <MilhousePunkRock> compart1: This is the english channel. Repeating stuff in a language noone understands and ignoring what others recommended does not help you...
[07:37] <binary2k2> gmparskI: yes, *ubuntu alwasys mounts removable media under /media
[07:37] <agente2012> tambien puedes visitar el canal en espaol: #kubuntu-es
[07:37] <Dr_willis> or at least is supposed to. :)
[07:38] <gmparskI> binary2k2, they're not "Enabled" if I go to Disk & filesystems
[07:39] <binary2k2> gmparskI: see if you can enable them
[07:39] <gmparskI> how?
[07:41] <cube__> is there a WAY to Copy from the keyboard,on KONSOLE?
[07:41] <cube__> coply commands
[07:41] <binary2k2> gmparskI: click administer mode, then click on the partition, and click the enable button, or new to put where to mount it, then enable
[07:41] <cube__> insted of using the mouse and clicking COPY
[07:41] <ehird> cube__: ctrl+shift+c
[07:42] <cube__> thanks
[07:42] <ehird> should work...but
[07:42] <ehird> i find that
[07:42] <ehird> highlighting words and using the middle mouse button to paste is more efficient
[07:43] <gmparskI> binary2k2, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35623/
[07:43] <gintaras> :)
[07:43] <gintaras> labas
[07:44] <nelson_> I use ctrl+c to copy and shift+insert to paste
[07:44] <binary2k2> gmparskI: try running the command ir said "dmesg | tail"
[07:44] <ehird> nelson_: try THAT in the terminal
[07:44] <ehird> byebye program
[07:44] <ehird> "tail: warning: following standard input indefinitely is ineffective" <-- really? wouldn't have guessed
[07:45] <gintaras> hello,anybody speak lithuanian?
[07:45] <ehird> no.
[07:45] <BluesKaj> !li
[07:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about li - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <BluesKaj> gintaras, do you speak any other lagauges ?
[07:46] <gmparskI> binary2k2, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35625/
[07:46] <BluesKaj> err languages
[07:47] <gintaras> i don't know
[07:47] <nelson_> ehird: well... you have to highlight with the mouse
[07:48] <gintaras> maybe russian
[07:48] <binary2k2> gmparskI: you're trying to mount the whole disk, you need to just mount a partiton, /dev/sdd1 for example
[07:50] <gmparskI> binary2k2, one sec I'll send you a link to a screnie
[07:50] <cs_> ah
[07:51] <cs_> the problem i have is window's problem for needing the bootloader absolutely positively on the first partition
[07:51] <cs_> it somehow needs to be tricked :\
[07:51] <compart1> milhousepunkbock, i have the package for the other instant messenger, but i dont know istall the package. I 'll install the gaim, but i dont locate
[07:53] <ypsila> moin
[07:53] <gintaras> si
[07:53] <ehird> nelson_: if you're not accurate and quick with the mouse you should get better ;)
[07:55] <compart1> I have the package for the other instant messenger, but i dont know istall the package. I 'll install the gaim, but i dont locate
[07:56] <ehird> can anybody tell me how to enable su while keeping sudo working?
[07:56] <gmparskI> binary2k2, http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3263/whatthefuck6kg6.png
[07:57] <phobiac> I'm trying to use Ktorrent to download the most recent Kubuntu DVD iso and my connection internet connection keeps stopping altogether. I end up having to go into the system settings and disabling then renabling eth0, my wired connection, in order to get it up again. It's cable internet with 100 mbs/s speed, and the problem persists on no matter what internet connection I use (I've tried it two different places.) Any ideas on what the issu
[07:57] <LjL> ehird: why do that?
[07:57] <nelson_> ehird: sudo -i
[07:57] <_kuja_> sudo passwd -u root
[07:57] <ehird> LjL: deja vu... i'm certain you asked me that YESTERDAY ;)
[07:57] <ehird> nelson_: i know about sudo -i
[07:57] <ehird> _kuja_: hmm, i've read that that breaks sudo though
[07:58] <_kuja_> No.
[07:58] <_kuja_> It makes sudo irrelevant though.
[07:58] <binary2k2> gmparskI: what do yo get when you do: " ls /dev/sdd* "
[07:58] <_kuja_> after that, sudo passwd root
[07:59] <gmparskI> binary2k2, I get /dev/sdd  /dev/sdd1
[07:59] <nelson_> ehird: sorry kid, didn't want to hurt your feelings...
[07:59] <binary2k2> gmparskI: change sdd to sdd1 in disk & filesystems
[07:59] <ehird> nelson_: ... I just said i knew about it
[07:59] <ehird> _kuja_: kay
[08:00] <gintaras> :)
[08:00] <gmparskI> binary2k2, I get the same error as before
[08:00] <_kuja_> ehird: first part unlocks the root account, second sets the passwd
[08:00] <ehird> _kuja_: thanks, it worked
[08:00] <binary2k2> gmparskI: run this: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd
[08:01] <binary2k2> gmparskI: and post the output on pastebin
[08:01] <phobiac> My internet constantly times out when I try to use Ktorrent. How can I fix this?
[08:02] <Pyth0n_Fan> Phobiac: Perhaps your provider dislikes P2P flows?
[08:03] <binary2k2> phobiac: try using encrypted connections, and changing to port number
[08:03] <gmparskI> binary2k2, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35626/
[08:03] <phobiac> Pyth0n_Fan: The problem pesists no matter where I am. I've tested on several different internet connections in different locations.
[08:03] <phobiac> persists*
[08:04] <binary2k2> gmparskI: ahh, you're trying to mount it as ext3 and its avtually fat
[08:04] <binary2k2> or ext2 ectually
[08:04] <gmparskI> oic, should I change it?
[08:05] <gmparskI> binary2k2, thanks! it's enabled now!
[08:05] <binary2k2> gmparskI: now you just need to enable the rest :p
[08:06] <Pyth0n_Fan> Phobiac: So maybe you try to lower number of parallel connections. Torrent is VERY network-stressing protocol.
[08:06] <gmparskI> binary2k2, thanks alot man!
[08:06] <gmparskI> ;D
[08:06] <binary2k2> gmparskI: that fdisk command will help you see what file system to set it as, just repeat the process
[08:07] <gmparskI> kthx :D
[08:07] <binary2k2> gmparskI: glad you got it working, took a while, but we got there :D
[08:07] <phobiac> Alright, thank you.
[08:07] <ypsila> and away
[08:11] <vado> Bonsoir tout le monde
[08:11] <TheGateKeeper> bonsoir
[08:11] <TheGateKeeper> !fr
[08:11] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:12] <flo_> Hi ! What do i need to do on dapper to get KDE remotedesktop (Krfb / rc) running over the internet ? it just works on my local network..
[08:14] <toma> flo_: forward some ports on the firewall to the right internal ip-address
[08:15] <flo_> toma: Is that something i can do with the KDE system settings or is it some config file ?
[08:16] <toma> flo_: depends on your internet connection method. If you have a adsl modem, you probably need to edit that device
[08:21] <_kuja_> flo ... the routers I've used in the past use the ip 192.168.0.1. If you have a router, enter that into your browser and see what happens
[08:24] <gmparski> binary2k2, you still here?
[08:24] <binary2k2> yeah
[08:24] <gmparski> binary2k2, something happened, it still gives me the error, but it says it's enabled
[08:25] <gmparski> and I can't seem to access it
[08:25] <binary2k2> what's the error it gives?
[08:26] <gmparski> binary2k2, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35629/
[08:26] <binary2k2> gnomefreak: and what dose "dmesg | tail" say?
[08:26] <gmparski> binary2k2, I know it's fat16, and it's mounted as VFAT (Windows FAT file system) but it still gives me the error
[08:27] <seek> nabend zusammen
[08:28] <binary2k2> gmparski: try "pmount /dev/sdd1 sdd1" and see what happens
[08:29] <gmparski> binary2k2, I don't think anything happened
[08:29] <binary2k2> gmparski: look in /media/sdd1
[08:30] <Flosoft> hey
[08:30] <gmparski> binary2k2, something defenitely happened, one sec, no cheering yet, Im gonna see if it works :P
[08:30] <Flosoft> I am looking for an PCMCIA TV Card
[08:30] <Flosoft> any suggestions?
[08:32] <cathal> I need to be able to check what has changed when updating an application in Kubuntu before apply the update. Is their a location of application that wil tell me this?
[08:33] <binary2k2> cathal: the changelogs?
[08:33] <cathal> how to i look at the change logs of the update before applying it?
[08:34] <marcos_> ollllllllllllllllllllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
[08:34] <binary2k2> cathal: aptitude changelog [package-name] 
[08:35] <cathal> binary2k2: thats brilliant, thank you
[08:36] <binary2k2> :D
[08:36] <binary2k2> your welcome
[08:37] <gmparski> binary2k2, yeah, it works now! :D
[08:37] <gmparski> thanks alot!
[08:37] <binary2k2> pmount is a nice little tool :D
[08:37] <cathal> It would be great if that was in the update app, therefore i would just have click a button to see what has changed. Does any such app exist?
[08:37] <gmparski> yeah lol
[08:38] <binary2k2> cathal: synaptic
[08:39] <cathal> binary2k2: does synaptic do it, i havent used that in awhile. Will check it out, thanks again.
[08:39] <binary2k2> cathal: it's version of update notifier will
[08:40] <binary2k2> cathal: shows  you the changelogs of the packages beore you start, install update-manager
[08:40] <binary2k2> replaces the adept update-notifier (and is better imho)
[08:44] <toma> firefox is crashing every other page, any idea when i can do to stop that?
[08:46] <sungam> toma, It seems to happen if you're using 16 bit color instead of 32 or 24. At least it used to be like that
[08:47] <toma> sungam: whats the best way to check that?
[08:47] <sungam> toma, look in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what 'Defaultdepth' is set to
[08:47] <toma> sungam: 16...
[08:47] <binary2k2> grep DefaultDepth /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:48] <sungam> toma, change it to 24
[08:48] <toma> sungam: ok, brb
[08:48] <sungam> if that gives you isses loading xorg, change it back :)
[08:48] <sungam> too late :(
[08:49] <cathal> sungam: hopefully he'll figure that out
[08:49] <sungam> cathal, :)
[08:50] <toma> sungam: you rock
[08:51] <sungam> toma, no problem :)
[08:53] <cloakable> Anyone here use Gamefu?
[08:53] <cloakable> I need a deb file of it, or at least instructions on how to make a deb
[08:53] <cloakable> From the source.
[08:54] <binary2k2> colleverde: use ckeckinstall to make deb from source
[09:05] <sparrw> I have a PCL printer installed, my Firefox print properties dialog says Letter, but the printer is complaining it has no A4 paper.  Help?
[09:06] <cloakable> Oh, eff.
[09:10] <el_sime> hello
[09:12] <el_sime> does anyone know if i got to do anything other than turning off ipv6 in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases to disable ipv6?
[09:12] <el_sime> looks like everything connects regularly to the internet except for aptitude
[09:13] <binary2k2> el_sime: just read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[09:15] <h3sp4wn> el_sime: or read the ipv6 linux documentation project howto it is pretty cool (and you can have every machine externally accessible with it)
[09:17] <el_sime> thanks binary2k2, h3sp4wn, i'm reading
[09:17] <cloakable> Does anyone have Gamefu 0.2 as a debian package?
[09:18] <h3sp4wn> el_sime: If you want an externally accessible server behind a home connection (where you only get 1 ipaddress) with ipv6 you can have it fully accessible
[09:19] <binary2k2> fully accessable only if the peope connecting use IPv6
[09:19] <binary2k2> tho I do :D
[09:21] <h3sp4wn> I am not talking about running a website (I fundementally disagree with doing that on contested connections) I mean just somewhere you can get to if you need to
[09:23] <binary2k2> http://freedns.afraid.org/ - free DNS with static OR dynamic IPv4 and IPv6 (what i use)
[09:23] <ubuntu> huhu :)
[09:28] <el_sime> h3sp4wn: well i actually did that already, but i think i found something about the router being the problem
[09:29] <el_sime> the page is in italian so i guess it would be of no use to post here
[09:29] <h3sp4wn> !it
[09:29] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:29] <h3sp4wn> (don't know how many people are there though)
[09:29] <el_sime> uhm i didn't found the channel in the list
[09:30] <el_sime> but anyways:)
[09:37] <knapp__> Anyone know how to get easytag to read WMVs?
[09:43] <fabio_> someone can give me help about driver of ati x1600 ?
[09:50] <h3sp4wn> fabio_:wget http://kanotix.com/files/install-fglrx-debian.sh ; chmod 755 install-fglrx-debian.sh; sudo ./install-fglrx-debian.sh
[09:50] <h3sp4wn> fabio_: Just run that and you will get the latest ati drivers (should configure itself automatically)
[09:51] <fdoving> h3sp4wn: nice one. does it make a .deb ?
[09:52] <h3sp4wn> fdoving: It uses the debs that the ati installer can generate
[09:52] <fabio_> H3SP4WN...
[09:52] <fdoving> h3sp4wn: ah.. nice.
[09:52] <h3sp4wn> fdoving: and builds a suitable kernel module
[09:52] <fabio_> 1minute...i'm rebooting
[09:52] <fabio_> because i have make a change
[09:52] <fabio_> now i rejoin
[09:54] <h3sp4wn> fdoving: I cannot find anything wrong that script does (which is why I would recommend it over any other way of installing later drivers)
[09:55] <fdoving> h3sp4wn: certainly makes it less of a pain for end users.
[09:57] <wildchild> :s I clicked on a song in xmms and note appeared: Please check that: your sound card is configured properly, you have the correct output plugin selected, no other program is blocking the soundcqard....
[09:58] <[GuS] > is back..
[10:01] <vandenoever> has anyone tried to install intels c++ compiler on edgy?
[10:01] <h3sp4wn> fdoving: Yep (I tested it on edgy 64 bit - on my little brothers computer when he was fixing it for ubuntu)
[10:01] <vandenoever> i want to compile strigi with it for portability
[10:02] <vandenoever> h3sp4wn: how did you get past ./install.sh?
[10:02] <vandenoever> it wont accept my absolute license path
[10:02] <h3sp4wn> vandenoever: I have never used intel's c++ compiler if I wanted to use it I would use a supported platform
[10:04] <vandenoever> h3sp4wn: make sense
[10:06] <mc__> vandenoever: why dont use gcc?
[10:06] <vandenoever> mc__: i mainly use gcc, but intel has extra warnings
[10:06] <vandenoever> it's good to clean up every once in a while
[10:09] <mc__> vandenoever: oh,ok
[10:09] <NicksteSA> In which repository can I find kismet?
[10:11] <wolverine> anyone here familiar with samba and cifs?
[10:11] <archangel_> how can I look at a 'list' of channels?
[10:12] <vandenoever> archangel_: which program?
[10:12] <vandenoever>  /list ?
[10:12] <wolverine> when i mount a remote samba share via fstab it is mounted with a uid that does not exist
[10:12] <archangel_> konversation (sorry)
[10:12] <vandenoever> F5
[10:13] <archangel_> didnt even know there were more than 1 prog.
[10:13] <archangel_> thank you
[10:14] <wolverine> samba anyone?
[10:16] <wildchild> :s I clicked on a song in xmms and note appeared: Please check that: your sound card is configured properly, you have the correct output plugin selected, no other program is blocking the soundcqard....
[10:16] <wildchild> soundcard*
[10:17] <jessy> hi all, could someone tell me why KDE settings "Monitor&display" still thinks I have a vesa driver altough I do have a perfectly working nvidia driver (but because of that I cannot change reoslutions through KDE settings)
[10:19] <jeisma> how would i go about playing a poker application that i would need to download from a website onto kubuntu?
[10:19] <vandenoever> jeisma: wine
[10:19] <vandenoever> assuming its a windows application
[10:20] <vandenoever> wine poker.exe
[10:20] <jeisma> so i have to download the exe
[10:20] <jeisma> then use wine to open it?
[10:20] <vandenoever> yes
[10:20] <jeisma> ok
[10:21] <mc__> jessy: you can change the resolution directly in the xorg.conf
[10:21] <vandenoever> jeisma is from the group of users that runs one program at a time
[10:23] <stefaans> hello all
[10:25] <stefaans> anyone here?
[10:27] <stefaans> anyone here running opennms
[10:27] <stefaans> ??
[10:27] <jason> anyone here have an easy way of encoding video for 5g ipod in linux?
[10:28] <jason> heh - i mean in ubuntu
[10:28] <jason> kubuntu
[10:30] <stefaans> hmm gimme a second, what encoding can ipod read?
[10:30] <stefaans> mpg, avi?
[10:30] <fullmj|Stani> Are there any drivers for the Razer Diamondback?
[10:31] <wildchild> I have some serious problems with my sound: all the sudden music don't work in amarok and xmms: in amarok when I click on track nothing happens and when I click on other track it ask me to terminate amarok. In xmms when I click on a song note appears:  Please check that: your sound card is configured properly, you have the correct output plugin selected, no other program is blocking the soundcqard....  Please help
[10:31] <stefaans> jason acidrip,
[10:32] <jason> thx stefaans
[10:32] <stefaans> apt-get or aptitude like a dream
[10:32] <stefaans> wildchild what does your logs say?
[10:33] <wildchild> stefaans: don't understand log of amarok and xmms? don't know they exists
[10:34] <fullmj|Stani> Are there any linux drivers for the Razer Diamondback?
[10:34] <stefaans> jason try this "sudo apt-cache search rip | grep dvd"
[10:35] <stefaans> wildchild: try "tail -f /var/log/messages" run again and see what turns up
[10:35] <stefaans> fullmj|Stani: what device is that?
[10:36] <fullmj|Stani> Astefaans: A mouse
[10:36] <fullmj|Stani> stefaans**
[10:37] <stefaans> you don't need a driver go google for 7 button mouse
[10:38] <wildchild> stefaans: that's odd, now everything works..
[10:39] <wildchild> what is this "tail -f /var/log/messages" command mean ?
[10:39] <wildchild> does*
[10:39] <el_sime> h3sp4wn: i found out the connection problem, in the end it was the router working as a dns server, i just set the dns servers manually and aptitude is working now
[10:39] <stefaans> man tail :-D
[10:39] <wildchild> :)
[10:39] <stefaans> just gives you a scrolling view of what is happening in a file
[10:40] <mducharme> was that a joke to make someone say "man tail"?
[10:40] <stefaans> just tail /var/log/messages wil give you the last 10 lines
[10:40] <wildchild> yeah, whell that's not everything... couse now music plays
[10:40] <jamesb_> dosbox worked for me i dapper but in edgy the mouse freezes when in dosbox. How do I downgrade back to version 0.63-2.1 which was/is in dapper?
[10:40] <stefaans> tail -f  /var/log/messages and it scrolls by
[10:40] <stefaans> handy when checking pop3 logins or mail coming in
[10:41] <stefaans> wildchild: don't run then @ same time
[10:41] <mducharme> "tail" really need colors. colourtail segfaults constantly
[10:41] <jamesb_> tail prints out the (default 10) last lines of a file. -f means "follow" ie. continue printing if lines are added
[10:41] <wildchild> stefaans: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35651/ that's what tail said
[10:43] <jamesb_> dosbox worked for me i dapper but in edgy the mouse freezes when in dosbox. How do I downgrade back to version 0.63-2.1 which was/is in dapper?
[10:45] <stefaans> wildchild: http://www.gnu.org/software/textutils/manual/textutils/html_node/textutils_14.html
[10:45] <BlueMage> can anyone help me get Flash 9 working?
[10:46] <stefaans> shure
[10:46] <chimaera> just install, scan insidefpr plugins  konqi, working.
[10:46] <BlueMage> when I install it through wine it says the a certain file could not be opened
[10:46] <wildchild> stefaans, thx for keeeping me up with useful things
[10:47] <stefaans> cool man
[10:47] <chimaera> BlueMage: why would you install it using wine? just install the linux version..
[10:47] <stefaans> BlueMage: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/11/21/207234
[10:48] <stefaans> that will get you started
[10:48] <BlueMage> but the linux version is Flash 7, I believe, I need 9
[10:48] <stefaans> ls
[10:49] <intelikey> !flash9
[10:49] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[10:49] <intelikey> !backports
[10:49] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[10:49] <sredna> How can I downgrade a program?
[10:50] <sredna> The new version of xine is not functioning properly, it fails to keep a stream running
[10:50] <stefaans> sredna: use vlc
[10:50] <jason> stefaans - i installed acidrip - now what? lol
[10:50] <intelikey> sredna install the version you want from the repos ?
[10:50] <sredna> stefaans: What?
[10:51] <sredna> intelikey: How do I know which versions are available?
[10:51] <intelikey> sredna ubuntu.com/packages  i think
[10:51] <stefaans> jason: hehehehe should install in kmenu under multimedia
[10:51] <stefaans> then google!
[10:51] <sredna> So, the famous apt can't tell me :)
[10:51] <sredna> :(
[10:52] <stefaans> sredna: aptitude search <package>
[10:52] <intelikey> it can
[10:52] <sredna> Ok, thank you stefaans
[10:52] <intelikey> but so can adept iirc
[10:53] <cloakable> Or type apt:/search?<package> in Konqueror :)
[10:53] <cloakable> Feature I didn't know about :)
[10:53] <cloakable> Kudos to the Kubuntu maintainers :)
[10:53] <sparrw> i have a file in /etc not owned by any package...  thats odd
[10:53] <sredna> stefaans: I need to know not the current version, but the old one
[10:54] <sredna> The current version is broken
[10:54] <sredna> So is mplayer bts
[10:54] <sredna> W
[10:54] <angasule> sparrw: great tip
[10:54] <intelikey> sparrw which ?
[10:54] <stefaans> jason: apt:/search?dvd::rip type that into konq, another favourite
[10:55] <kerwonz> what's the package include kit for devel?
[10:56] <sparrw> intelikey: /etc/papersize
[10:56] <intelikey> hmmm mine is owned by root
[10:56] <intelikey> who owns your sparrw ?
[10:56] <sredna> Again, how do I find the previous version of a package?
[10:57] <stefaans> sredna: /me wondering too
[10:58] <sredna> stefaans: Maybe one shouldn't use a debian derivee that is not debian stable
[10:58] <intelikey> sredna apt-cache policy xine
[10:58] <kay> !de
[10:58] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:59] <intelikey> sredna not a bad idea.   but how many distros would that include ?
[10:59] <sredna> Exactly one, if you stick to apt
[10:59] <stefaans> sredna: I kinda love my kubuntu
[11:00] <sredna> But you can trust it to be conservative enough to not upgrade to non-functional software
[11:00] <sredna> stefaans: I'm not so sure.
[11:00] <intelikey> sredna so use debian,  you wont hurt anyone in here's feeling if you ditch *buntu and use debian  :)
[11:01] <sredna> intelikey: I't have to use something else
[11:01] <intelikey> sredna fedora maybe
[11:01] <instructor> Is there a Kherd1?
[11:01] <sredna> intelikey: No chance :)
[11:02] <intelikey> hell use windows, it wont bother me.
[11:02] <sredna> But let me see if I can get a functioning version of xine, and I'll stick to kubuntu for now
[11:02] <intelikey> or just gripe about the software you refuse to give up.....   i don't guess that bothers me either.
[11:04] <trappist> sredna: ubuntu in general, and edgy in particular, are not very conservative w/r/t software updates
[11:05] <intelikey> sredna and when someone tells you a simple way to find all avalable versions of a package it's not expected that you follow their advice,  we really do expect you to keep asking the same already answered question over and over, and to bitch about the help, support, and software....
[11:05] <stefaans> anyone here know about SVG plugins?
[11:05] <kerwonz> what's the package include the kit for developers?
[11:05] <trappist> sredna: if your threshold for stability isn't compatible with ubuntu's release cycle or upgrade policies, you should probably use debian
[11:05] <sredna> intelikey: Sorry? I have yet to find the previous version.
[11:06] <cathal> sredna: what are u looking for?
[11:06] <sredna> cathal: A working version of xine
[11:06] <cathal> sredna: works for me, look in the changelogs for all the previous versions
[11:07] <sredna> The current one is broken, as it fails playing a stream, it does not download data
[11:07] <sredna> cathal: How?
[11:07] <sredna> Where?
[11:07] <cathal> aptitude changelogs packagename
[11:07] <sampo-> Help please: Are there anybody familiar with software-raid (I do not know right term in english)?
[11:08] <trappist> sampo-: that's the right term
[11:08] <flake> i tried that echo '..' thing to get audio working for enemy-territory, but i still have no audio, does anyone have any tips
[11:08] <flake> normal audio works ok, like booting up, shutting down, playing mp3's
[11:08] <sampo-> I got lucky. :) I have few question about; does I need reformat that exiting disk? I have one disk and I pay new one; proglem is, that there is data in old disk.
[11:09] <desterkin> Anybody around who can help configure wireless connection (ndiswrapper)?
[11:09] <jamesb_> sredna: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ has a nice list of all packages
[11:10] <sredna> I can see the changelog for libxine1, but using the string (apt-get install libxine1=1.1.2+repacked1-0ubuntu2 ) fails
[11:11] <cathal> sredna: remove the current one first
[11:12] <sredna> I can try that, cathal
[11:12] <Bubba_Gump> any programs that can, convert, quicktime movies, to avi or mp4 ??
[11:12] <cathal> sredna: u really shouldnt need to this this, if theirs a problem it should be fixed
[11:12] <trappist> Bubba_Gump: mencoder
[11:12] <cloakable> I have a program that displays with no borders, etc. Is there any way i can correct this?
[11:12] <trappist> cloakable: what program? (some are designed not to do that)
[11:13] <sredna> cathal: Right now, I can't view tv over the internet, since xine as well as mplayer is broken
[11:13] <sredna> Downgrading would possibly fix that
[11:13] <sredna> But it appears to be very complex to do so
[11:14] <sredna> Uninstalling libxine has a lot of dependancy issues
[11:14] <cloakable> trappist: Space Combat. External program (http://www.x-plane.com/SpaceCombat.html)
[11:14] <trappist> sredna: yep
[11:14] <cathal> sredna: yes it is. Is it broken for u or is this a know bug?
[11:14] <sredna> I don't know
[11:14] <sredna> Kubuntu.org does not even mention a bug database
[11:15] <cathal> sredna: give a link of a movie file that doesnt work for u
[11:16] <sredna> cathal: It's embedded, let me see if kmplayer shows the url of the stream in the console
[11:16] <trappist> sredna: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xine-lib/+bugs
[11:16] <sredna> mms://wms.dr.dk/nas01/auto/cms/Resources/dr.dk/NETTV/DR1/2006/12/79da6065-43a9-483b-be12-95e42cf08c88/Absalons_Hemmelighed_6.wmv?WMContentBitrate=280000
[11:17] <intelikey> sredna http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=libxine1  <<--  and   dpkg -i --force-downgrade packagename.deb   is not hard....
[11:17] <sredna> The problem is that it's not filling the cache properly all the time, I get holes
[11:17] <VSpike> Got a strange problem -- if I go to "Configure Desktop->Screensavers", I can test screensavers and they work, choose one, set the timeout, etc... but in practice they never kick in.  If I leave the machine for ages, it goes to a screensaver of the X11 logo.  Any idea why it's doing this?
[11:18] <sredna> intelikey: Finding a way through all the various parts of package tools is hard. But thank you
[11:18] <intelikey> sredna dpkg is the debian package manager    every thing else is a front/back/end to dpkg
[11:19] <sredna> Sorry dude
[11:20] <cathal> sredna: whats the movie type and the error u get?
[11:21] <sredna> cathal: The error is that xine fails to keep the stream running
[11:21] <sredna> I have no idea about the movie type
[11:22] <VSpike> bah
[11:22] <cathal> sredna: it must fail with some errors???
[11:22] <sredna> cathal: The problems can be unrelated to xine too, it can be a bandwidt problem or something else
[11:23] <sredna> cathal: There are no fatal errors, except the video pauses sometimes
[11:23] <sredna> I wanted to retry the older version of xine, because yesterday it worked
[11:24] <sredna> But I think I'll give up on that and see if it keeps failing over some days
[11:24] <sredna> Since downgrading appears to be very difficult
[11:25] <joe3k> sredna: did you try sudo apt-get install libxine1/edgy
[11:25] <cathal> sredna: im at a loss sorry dude, check out the FAQ at xinehq.de.Without some example or error message not much i can think of
[11:25] <joe3k> sredna: there's a update only in edgy-security right now
[11:27] <sredna> joe3k: I did upgrade 10 minutes ago. The problem is still there. But as I said, xine is just one possible explanation
[11:28] <joe3k> sredna: the libxine1/edgy should downgrade assuming you have the last update from edgy-security
[11:28] <[Amigo] > Who using K6.06 x86 KDE3.5.5 and __amaroK1.4.3__ without problems from amaroK side?
[11:28] <sredna> joe3k: I think I have kubuntu edgy as my current kubuntu version
[11:29] <sredna> Hm, now xine caved in
[11:29] <sponix> anyone know of a better torrent client ktorrent ?
[11:29] <joe3k> sredna: that's ok but do you have 1.1.2+repacked1-0ubuntu3 or 1.1.2+repacked1-0ubuntu3.2
[11:29] <sredna> 1.1.2+repacked1-0ubuntu3.2
[11:30] <joe3k> sredna: ok so the previous one is 1.1.2+repacked1-0ubuntu3
[11:30] <joe3k> sredna: and you get it by apt-get install libxine1/edgy
[11:30] <joe3k> sredna: at least for me it tries to downgrade
[11:30] <sredna> joe3k: I had that a half hour ago, and that didn't work either
[11:30] <joe3k> sredna: ahhh ok
[11:31] <sredna> I want what I had yesterday, but it looks impossible
[11:31] <joe3k> sredna: so which previous one do you want to have :) from dapper?
[11:31] <joe3k> sredna: ok now i don't get it what did you have yesterday
[11:31] <sredna> I simply does not know
[11:31] <sredna> Whatever was there before 1.1.2+repacked1-0ubuntu3
[11:32] <sredna> 1.1.2+repacked1-0ubuntu2 I think
[11:32] <joe3k> sredna: i see
[11:33] <Jucato> oooh sredna's here :)
[11:33] <joe3k> sredna: maybe it still lies around somewhere in ls /var/cache/apt/archives/ ?
[11:33] <sredna> joe3k: I think I give up
[11:34] <sredna> If it does not work tomorrow either, I'll file a bug or change to some other distro
[11:34] <joe3k> sredna: it won't be that easy to go back to that one it's simply not in the repos anymore
[11:34] <sredna> Though I mostly like kubuntu
[11:34] <mducharme> is kde4 available in feisty?
[11:35] <fmeissner> Jucato: I know you won't be too happy about this, but I reinstalled Kubuntu and for the life of me cannot remember the nvidia-glx commands, I got linux-restricted-modules-generic and nvidia-glx but I don't know the commands, a little help?
[11:35] <Jucato> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[11:35] <fmeissner> thanks
[11:35] <Jucato> :)
[11:36] <VSpike> sponix: azureus is good but it doesn't seem to work in Kubunty Edgy
[11:36] <stefaans> I need to go to bed now 1:30am over here
[11:36] <stefaans> bye
[11:37] <VSpike> bye :)
[11:37] <sredna> I think it would be smart to display dates on the bur system lists
[11:37] <joe3k> sredna: what about this one https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/i386/libxine-main1/1.1.2+repacked1-0ubuntu2
[11:37] <fmeissner> Jucato: I wrote it down this time
[11:38] <joe3k> sredna: well actually this one :) https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/i386/libxine1
[11:38] <joe3k> sredna: seems you can download it there :)
[11:39] <keeganX> Has anyone tried using KDE with qt4?
[11:39] <sredna> joe3k: Thank you.
[11:40] <joe3k> sredna: np
[11:40] <sredna> keeganX: You can't use kde 3 with qt 4.
[11:40] <keeganX> I thought there was like a development version of it
[11:40] <sredna> keeganX: You can run qt4 apps inside kde 3 though
[11:40] <sredna> There is no kde 4 version interresting for non-developers yet
[11:41] <fribuntu> Hi all
[11:41] <fribuntu> anybody else here using k3b to burn iso DVD images?
[11:41] <fribuntu> How do I disable that annoying md5 sum check?
[11:42] <fribuntu> I have just made my own image file, I do not need to wait 90 minutes till k3b is done calculating the md5 of a 4.2 GB file!
[11:43] <joe3k> fribuntu: i think you can just say burn even if it doesn't yet have the md5
[11:44] <fribuntu> joe3k: Well, it makes very heavy usage of the disk while calculating that sum. It might screw up the burning process, or not?
[11:45] <joe3k> fribuntu: hmmm i don't remember but i think it'll just stop the md5 calculation if you say 'burn'
[11:45] <cathal> how come not everyfile gives the option to edit as root, as in the option in actions -> edit as root by right clciking on the file?
[11:47] <Bubba_Gump> i lost my location toolbar in konq, how do i get it back again>
[11:47] <trappist> cathal: I haven't looked into it, but I would imagine that the option wouldn't exist if you (the user) can edit it yourself
[11:47] <fribuntu> joe3k: Ok, I will try that some other time. I only have exactly one empty DVD-R left :)
[11:47] <Jucato> cathal: maybe the file is not editable in a text editor, or the file isn't owned by root
[11:48] <Jucato> Bubba_Gump: Settings -> Toolbars ?
[11:48] <Bubba_Gump> how do i get it back onto the browser?
[11:49] <Bubba_Gump> all i see is file copy etc
[11:49] <Bubba_Gump> with no location bar underneath
[11:49] <Bubba_Gump> oh, got it :)
[11:49] <Jucato> :/
[11:50] <Flosoft> hey
[11:50] <intelikey> hay
[11:50] <cathal> trappist: Jucato: yea i already checked , its owned by root, a file which i can edit as root has the same privilages. The only difference is that its a python file, trying to use kate to open the file.
[11:50] <Flosoft> how come that the IAX library is broken, and when is there going to be a fix?
[11:52] <Tja> can some tell me how to get this with using svn
[11:52] <Tja> http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/base/kbfx_plasma/?rev=611155
[11:52] <Tja> http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/base/kbfx_plasma/
[11:52] <Flosoft> https://launchpad.net/bugs/74102
[11:54] <Jucato> Tja: Plasma is a KDE 4 project. which means it won't run on the current KDE release
[11:54] <fribuntu> Why is kmail showing two question marks for new mail in the message list, even after I mark everything as read? I have to manually click on each mail to make those questionmarks disappear.
[11:54] <Tja> Jucato: im involved in that project
[11:54] <fribuntu> What do they mean anyhow?
[11:55] <Jucato> Tja: might want to ask in #kde4-devel then. (and install svn)
[11:55] <Tja> yeah ican try
[11:56] <joe3k> fribuntu: question marks?? never saw that on unread mail ...
[11:56] <intelikey> fribuntu expand that column and see what the ?? is in...
[11:56] <fribuntu> joe3k: double question marks, one a little smaller than the other. It is on every downloaded mail.
[11:57] <joe3k> fribuntu: i think it has some other meaining
[11:57] <fribuntu> intelikey: It is in the subject column, right where the "document" symbol should be.
[11:58] <joe3k> fribuntu: you use imap?
[11:58] <fribuntu> joe3k: No, pop3
[11:58] <intelikey> i still sujest expanding the column
[11:59] <Jucato> does anyone know from what file Kubuntu KDE reads env variables like $PATH and $KDEDIRS?
[11:59] <fribuntu> intelikey: It is 2/3 of my screen right now and mostly empty. Just in the very right it has two ?? instead of the little sheet of paper it shows after I click it.
[11:59] <joe3k> fribuntu: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kdepim-users&m=115406585504372&w=2
[12:00] <joe3k> fribuntu: tell us if it helps :)
[12:00] <fribuntu> joe3k: hang on ... checking
[12:00] <intelikey> when thing that belong in     | this much space |     are shown in    |??|     they often apear that way...    not sure that's what you see...
[12:00] <vado> Bonsoir
[12:01] <joe3k> intelikey: i think you get ... then don't you
[12:01] <intelikey> joe3k i get ??   but in mozilla, i don't use kmail.
[12:02] <joe3k> intelikey: ok, kmail shows ...., just tried it; and if you make it too small for ... then it shows just the first char
[12:02] <fribuntu> intelikey: I am seeing |??  subject of mail <heaps of space>                      | sender | date |
[12:03] <fribuntu> intelikey: I'd like to see | <little page symbol> subject of mail <heaps of space>          | sender | date |
[12:03] <intelikey> fribuntu that may be an icon file not found?    idk.
[12:04] <joe3k> i think those are the crypto-icons mentioned in the post
[12:04] <fribuntu> intelikey: It looks like something similar to an error. That's why it is irritating me so much. It disappears after manually selecting the title.
[12:05] <intelikey> fribuntu i see what you mean, just started kmail
[12:05] <fribuntu> joe3k: That "show crypto symbol" hint seems to have done it. At least when I send myself a testmail, there are not question marks.
[12:06] <fribuntu> intelikey: Ah, so you have those ?? too now?
[12:08] <joe3k> that's interesting i don't remember seeing those marks for years :) ... and i use _only_ kmail
[12:08] <joe3k> but maybe i turned it off years ago :)
[12:10] <ehird> i am Remote! bwahaha
[12:12] <intelikey> fribuntu i only get them if signature or encription is turned on.... if you get them with both those columns turned off then i suspect kmail is looking for an icon file it's not finding...