=== jonh_wendell [n=wendell@40-88-199-200.vcnet.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === zul [n=bob@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === mc44 [n=mc44@ip-81-170-101-251.cust.homechoice.net] has left #ubuntu-bugs ["Leaving"] === awbassett [n=awbasset@206.135.97.35] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === vuntz_ [n=vuntz@fennas.vuntz.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === crimsun [n=crimsun@dargo.trilug.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === chesty [n=chesty@69.56.173.122] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === psych[0] [i=psych0@69.60.110.36] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === tepsipakki [n=tjaalton@replicant.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === seaLne [n=seaLne@ubuntu/member/sealne] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === stgraber [i=stgraber@server.lan.stgraber.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === lionel [n=lionel@ip-61.net-82-216-103.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === atoponce [n=aaron@c-24-2-85-66.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === [PUPPETS] Gonzo [i=gonzo@80.69.47.16] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === tarheelcoxn [n=coxn@dargo.trilug.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === keescook [n=kees@ubuntu/member/keescook] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === fdoving [n=frode@edge.lnix.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.113.13] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === lengau [n=lengau@68.53.53.39] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:37] is the bug bot busted? [01:37] seems to be, its not in the room === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:40] yes he is [01:45] Is there a Ubuntu 3.06? === merlin-linux [n=quail@unaffiliated/quaillinux/x-000001] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:09] Phoenix7477: sorry? The version is YEAR.MONTH.. and 6.06 was delayed (it was going to be 6.04). === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-68-56.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:38] thank you [02:44] yea bot is busted i think [02:45] hasn't talked in like 10 hours === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Cas_ [n=cas@58.251.122.111] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === orion2012 [n=orion@cpe-70-114-30-76.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === orion2012 [n=orion@cpe-70-114-30-76.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === mdz [n=mdz@cpe-76-173-8-128.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === ausimage [n=owner@pool-129-44-212-45.syr.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [06:05] Hey I wanted to share a very weird issue with gaim this afternoon. When I logged into #ubuntu-meeting the first couple of times the text of the traffic was in Pig Latin (completely inverted). I had to kill Gaim for it to go away... [06:06] and there were no weird plugins that would do this installed. JUST FYI. === dous [n=dous@124.104.0.197] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === CarlFK [n=carl@c-24-13-53-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-68-56.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [06:31] (that uh, doesn't sound like a bug?) [06:34] crimsun??? I am not sure what I'd call it... it was just WEIRD. [06:34] that sounds much too intentional to be a bug [06:35] it is my machine and no one uses it.... and I was just disturbed by it... till I realized it was doing Pig Latin of sorts [06:36] but thankfully it has passed... I am more like HEY this happened to alert of this. [06:42] man when is the bot going to returning [06:43] eh? === ausimage [n=owner@pool-129-44-212-45.syr.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-bugs [] === nixternal hugs crimsun [06:52] run crimsun. run from nixternal [06:52] he better, because all i will do is end up putting more on his plate ;p [06:53] haha, [06:53] that's ok, I'll just retire and go meditate. [06:53] so much for yuo! [06:53] hehe [06:53] how many merges do you have left? [06:53] 0. [06:53] then i guess it is time to pick on someone else [06:54] I've blown away my Breezy partition and am now using MS-DOS 6.22. [06:54] nixternal: just pick a random person [06:54] oh jesus, have you lost your mind? [06:54] a long time ago, yes [06:55] can't lose a mind never had [06:55] very true [06:55] :\ === motin [n=motin@c80-217-109-98.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === orion2012 [n=orion@hypnogogic.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === orion2012 [n=orion@hypnogogic.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === orion2012 [n=orion@hypnogogic.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === orion2012 [n=orion@hypnogogic.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === orion2012 [n=orion@hypnogogic.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Lure_ [n=lure@BSN-77-152-53.dsl.siol.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === ssam [n=ssam@88-107-44-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-38-117.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === mvo [n=egon@155.56.26.50] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === orion2012 [n=orion@hypnogogic.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === orion2012 [n=orion@hypnogogic.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === orion2012 [n=orion@hypnogogic.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === orion2012 [n=orion@hypnogogic.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === orion2012 [n=orion@hypnogogic.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === luka74 [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === orion2012 [n=orion@hypnogogic.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === orion2012 [n=orion@hypnogogic.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === orion2012 [n=orion@hypnogogic.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === lloydinho_ [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:39] aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrgggh [09:39] NOTHING happened on the botserver [09:40] yet AGAIN it is set to don't send mail... [09:41] I'm so fed up with this lack of taking responsibility by canonical that I'm seriously considering pulling the plug on Ubugtu [09:42] lack of responsibility on what? [09:43] on fixing their mailman setup [09:43] :( [09:43] Seveas: what is broken? [09:43] lists work fine for thousand of people afaik [09:43] not sure of what your issue is exactly [09:43] did you open a bug or is somebody aware of the problem and what needs to be done? [09:44] yes, people are aware [09:44] and unwilling to fix [09:44] who "is people"? [09:44] and what is the issue exactly? [09:44] 'who is "people"?' rather [09:45] the bot gets set to "don't send mail" all the time [09:45] I can try talking to them [09:45] people = sfllaw and the admin team [09:45] ok [09:45] well [09:45] does the bot send mails? [09:46] or that's just a normal subscriber? [09:46] it's just a subscriber [09:46] weird that it gets unsubscribed [09:46] I never got unsubscribed from an ubuntu list afaik [09:47] it just gets set to "don't send mail" because apparently it has trouble sending the bot mail [09:47] which is weird, because *noone else* has trouble sending anyone on that server mail [09:47] ah [09:47] mayube ""*noone else*" send that many mails? [09:48] true, but the server indicates nothing wrong, it just stops sending [09:50] New bug: #74576 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash on close" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74576 === orion2012 [n=orion@hypnogogic.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === orion2012 [n=orion@hypnogogic.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F71EA5.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:57] good morning [09:58] Seveas: The server stops sending because of too many bounces. [09:59] Seveas: It happens when your e-mail address becomes unavailable. [09:59] Seveas: I spoke with Ng and the best thing to do is to get ubotu to re-enable mail when it gets back on the Internet. [10:05] New bug: #74575 in control-center (main) "GTK+ themes not working correctly in Edgy" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74575 [10:06] sfllaw, but the bot didn't even fall off the internet.... [10:09] if things go wrong on my side, ok, no blame on Ng -- but this time it just stopped sending mail. [10:10] New bug: #74607 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.19 (restricted) "modprobe nvidia fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74607 [10:15] New bug: #74608 in openoffice.org (main) "Particular ODT file caused openoffice.org to crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74608 === DarkMageZ [n=richard@59.167.27.40] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:35] New bug: #74609 in python-pymetar (universe) "Please sync python-pymetar (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74609 === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:46] New bug: #74567 in lsr (universe) "lsr: Please review/upload this new package." [Wishlist,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74567 [10:46] New bug: #74568 in entity (universe) "entity: Please review/upload this merged package." [Wishlist,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74568 [10:56] New bug: #74610 in koctave (universe) "crashes without kdebase" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74610 === a7p [n=Albrecht@p54AE071B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:59] WARNING: No bugmail received in 15 minutes. Please poke Seveas. [11:00] heh [11:00] that's special [11:00] no, that's new [11:00] I know === ajmitch just attempted to file a bug by email again, so there should hopefully be something new [11:01] but apparently 15 minutes is too short, just made it 30 [11:01] New bug: #74591 in nautilus (main) "Uncancellable bounding box" [Low,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74591 [11:01] Seveas, you're saved *g* [11:05] New bug: #74592 in debian-installer (main) "[Feisty] Daily alternate image 20061205.2 install report" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74592 === ailean [n=ailean@82-40-205-105.stb.ubr07.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:06] Can I assign a bug to the person I think the most likely to be able to fix it in Launchpad? [11:06] no, please don't [11:06] ok, cheers [11:06] it's considered bad practice [11:07] that's cool - it's why i'm asking the question :) [11:07] as some canonical guys will say, they don't like bugs assigned to them unless you're paying their salary/are their boss [11:07] launchpad is oopsing a lot currently - or am I alone with this impression? [11:07] oopsing? [11:07] I haven't noticed many oopses [11:07] though I only look at specific pages [11:08] good, my sync request got through this time [11:08] i haven't assigned anything to anyone by the way :) i'm asking the q first :D [11:08] ailean: I know, I'm glad that you asked [11:08] So, what if i do want to pay for something? [11:09] you'd need to arrange it with someone in that case [11:09] *before* assigning it :) [11:09] there once was a (chaotic) bounty system ... [11:10] yeah, i remember that [11:10] New bug: #74611 in zodb (universe) "Please sync zodb (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74611 [11:11] New bug: #74596 in Ubuntu "Duplicate files in /etc/X11/Xsession.d" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74596 [11:11] i've landed myself a pretty decent job and can afford to give $50 p/w to this project, but I only want to donate it to things that wouldn't be done otherwise . . . === ajmitch sticks his hand up [11:12] ;) [11:12] lol [11:12] great, so people are open to that then [11:13] i'll need to think about what to spend it on, but i want to make it more useable for newbies in general [11:13] is my primary aim === a7p wispers: "Give it to the FSF". [11:13] and i want more return for my money than the 10 windows licenses i could buy each year [11:14] the FSF won't do what i tell them a7p :) === ajmitch waits for the next sync request to make it to malone [11:14] ailean, *g* [11:14] FSF... [11:14] better donate it to something else [11:14] setting DEBEMAIL helps for these sync requests to not get silently dropped... [11:14] silly SPF records [11:15] or I should say - not setting it to my old address [11:16] ok, my email address is 28earnala ta liamelgoog tod moc [11:16] all backwards. you can send me ideas if you're interested [11:16] that's so helpful [11:16] ailean: what is your crucial application? [11:16] i'd donate it there [11:17] Admiral_Chicago, i'd like to split it between gnome and kde i suppose [11:17] Admiral_Chicago, they're not as easy to use as windows is yet [11:17] Admiral_Chicago, and i would like them *to* be [11:17] ailean: i think KDE is really really easy to use but that's just me [11:18] i agree, but simple things like assigning a program to a file take it out of my girlfriend s dad [11:18] personally, i'd give to amarok because i love that program... [11:18] Admiral_Chicago, nope :) [11:19] $50 p/w is a fair bit of cashflow for open source yeah? [11:19] how much time is that per week would you say? [11:19] half a day [11:19] max [11:19] i'd say anything that you'd be willing to spare [11:19] for smaller projects [11:19] Seveas, half a day is great [11:19] Seveas, i can't afford to hire my own personal programmer [11:20] :D [11:20] hehe [11:20] i do my support by helping out as much as i can [11:20] for a hobbyist/student, it may be a bit [11:20] ajmitch, indeed [11:20] and i would do that as i become more skilled too [11:20] for someone like me, $50 would be nice, but not essential [11:20] New bug: #74612 in zope-cmfphotoalbum (universe) "Please sync zope-cmfphotoalbum (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74612 [11:20] maybe my money would be better used as bounties [11:21] i.e. i don't care about hiring someone - just about the solution [11:21] great, the list of my outstanding merges should be cut down nicely once these syncs go through [11:23] aw guys, i installed ubuntu on my girlfriend's box the other day and they were raving about how easy ubuntu is to use. they reckoned easier than windows because a) I set it up for them and b) the ubuntu update process is easier than windows [11:23] well, quite a few weeks ago actually [11:23] but they wouldn't be able to set up windows for themselves either :) [11:23] ailean: i put it on a buddy's computer and he loved it [11:23] then he messed up his keyboard [11:24] mehhhhh :| === geser [n=michael@dialin104091.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === coyctecm [i=coy@re.corded.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:26] New bug: #74613 in python-setuptools (main) "sync request" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74613 === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.113.13] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.113.13] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:30] New bug: #74552 in samba (main) "It is not possible to copy all files in /home via SMB share" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74552 [11:30] New bug: #74615 in evolution (main) "Evolution will consume ~90% CPU when you switch user" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74615 === calavera [n=calavera@195.Red-80-26-32.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.113.13] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:39] WARNING: No bugmail received in 30 minutes. Please poke Seveas. === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Jucato [n=jucato@58.69.161.249] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:45] New bug: #74616 in Ubuntu "Broadcom BCM5780" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74616 [11:51] Seveas: poku [11:51] poke* [11:55] Admiral_Chicago: a new bug came through, I hope you're not poking Seveas because of that [11:56] i'm just listenin to the bot :P === ajmitch sighs [11:59] ajmitch: sun-java* may need to be rebuilt im testing on this pc as we speak. its fails to install from what i hear (depends on iceweasle) === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:00] gnomefreak: ok, why tell me? :) [12:00] ajmitch: arnt you one of the revuers? [12:01] and i found you first ;) [12:01] one person, but it's not something that would go on revu === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:05] New bug: #74617 in ifupdown (main) "ifup/ifdown failes to properly trigger power management of my wlan device." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74617 [12:05] New bug: #74618 in python-formencode (universe) "[Sync Request] Sync python-formencode (0.6-1) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74618 [12:05] New bug: #74619 in gcc-2.95 (universe) "dapper exceptions do not work, seems regression from hoary" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74619 === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:10] New bug: #74620 in adept (main) "Error message on process" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74620 [12:17] WARNING: No bugmail received in 30 minutes. Please poke Seveas. [12:19] Seveas! :p [12:19] i pinged him azbout it [12:19] :) [12:19] about* [12:19] he more than likely at work but hell get it when he gets here [12:19] and Ubugtu also pings hims :) [12:20] New bug: #74621 in sun-java5 (multiverse) "[Feisty] sun-java5-plug fails to install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74621 === jonh_wendell [n=wendell@200165129086.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === xerxas [n=R67894@AGrenoble-257-1-23-16.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === ScottK2 [n=kitterma@static-72-81-252-22.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:46] New bug: #74623 in abiword (main) "AbiWord's Help goes to Web even if abiword-help is installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74623 [12:51] New bug: #74624 in gnome-system-tools (main) "[services-admin] Does not list all available services / init scripts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74624 [12:51] New bug: #74625 in abiword (main) "AbiWord's help should be in "Office", not "Programming"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74625 === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:55] WARNING: No bugmail received in 30 minutes. Please poke Seveas. === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-bugs.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Topic for #ubuntu-bugs: Ubuntu BugSquad | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | If you have been triaging bugs for a while, please apply to https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-qa/ - http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugsquad === Topic (#ubuntu-bugs): set by dholbach at Thu Nov 30 09:07:23 2006 [01:10] (Ubugtu/#ubuntu-bugs) New bug: #74632 in firefox (main) "Unknown 'crash' - shutdown spontaniously" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74632 [01:11] New bug: #74631 in gaim (main) "GAIM repeatedly crashing, usualy just before IM is received" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74631 === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:15] New bug: #71982 in netspeed (universe) "Netspeed says my interface is down, even though it's up" [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71982 [01:35] New bug: #74634 in xdrawchem (universe) "[feisty MoM] please sync xdrawchem from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74634 [01:37] WARNING: No bugmail received in 30 minutes. 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Please poke Seveas. === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F71EA5.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === fernando__ [n=fernando@189.0.151.127] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:20] New bug: #74579 in gnome-utils (main) "[baobab] "show hidden folders" checkbox always checked" [Low,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74579 === fernando__ is now known as fernando [02:36] New bug: #74639 in apache2 (main) "Proxy config is wrong" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74639 === cassidy [n=cassidy@195.244.169.43] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Czubek [n=Damian@abpm215.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:41] New bug: #71779 in spip (universe) "Two new majors versions available" [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71779 [02:41] New bug: #71810 in Ubuntu "A libview package would be great" [Undecided,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71810 [02:41] New bug: #74534 in startup-notification (main) "Crash on login" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74534 [02:41] New bug: #74640 in blogtk (universe) "Please sync blogtk (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74640 [02:50] New bug: #71753 in xpdf (universe) "Incorrect path in man page" [Low,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71753 === chuck_ [n=bob@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === simira [n=simira@tellus.err.no] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === xerxas_ [n=R67894@AGrenoble-257-1-85-108.w86-219.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:54] WARNING: No bugmail received in 30 minutes. Please poke Seveas. [02:55] maybe because there is no bugs whoopie! [02:56] its a bug i think === Yawner [n=alex@82-44-194-226.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:57] no let us believe there are no bugs -_- === mvo [n=egon@155.56.26.50] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:00] New bug: #74641 in unicon (universe) "[feisty MoM] please sync unicon from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74641 [03:05] New bug: #74642 in freeradius (universe) "freeradius install error via apt-get" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74642 [03:07] !info freeradius [03:07] freeradius: a high-performance and highly configurable RADIUS server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 1166 kB, installed size 4032 kB === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:20] New bug: #74643 in firefox (main) "include glipper for better clipboard support" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74643 === melter [n=Melter@dyn248.iacc-tm4.ndsu.NoDak.edu] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [03:32] WARNING: No bugmail received in 30 minutes. Please poke Seveas. === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === ssam [n=ssam@88-107-44-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === xdatap [n=xdatap1@83-103-98-196.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:49] hi everybody [03:51] lo === pirast [n=martin@p508B249E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [04:04] WARNING: No bugmail received in 30 minutes. Please poke Seveas. [04:06] hehehe === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [04:13] Boo [04:13] New bug: #74645 in kerry (universe) "Kerry tries to open thunderbird e-mails in kmail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74645 === Jucato [n=jucato@58.69.161.249] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Jucato [n=jucato@58.69.161.249] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === PriceChild [n=pricechi@unix0.york.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [04:23] heya bddebian [04:23] Hi Daniel [04:24] New bug: #74647 in php5 (main) "php5-gd not using bundled GD library" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74647 === r0bby [i=wakawaka@guifications/user/r0bby] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [04:43] WARNING: No bugmail received in 30 minutes. Please poke Seveas. [04:46] New bug: #74648 in siege (main) "siege always core dump" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74648 === daniel_hoover [n=daniel@74.194.17.188] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === daniel_hoover [n=daniel@74.194.17.188] has left #ubuntu-bugs [] [05:03] Seveas: Ubugtu appears to have problems actually counting 30 minutes. [05:06] New bug: #74650 in ubiquity (main) "Install error in Virtual PC SP " [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74650 [05:10] New bug: #74584 in gparted (main) "Update GParted to GParted 0.3.2" [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74584 [05:11] hi there, i'm trying to triage my first bug, anyone can help me? === torkiano [n=torkiano@cm241045.red83-165.mundo-r.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:13] xdatap, whats the problem [05:15] New bug: #74652 in linux-meta (main) "com20020_cs - typo in patch prevents driver from working" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74652 [05:16] xdatap: shoot [05:17] i'm start right now to triage a bug. So i'm lookink the #74648 [05:17] it appears to be a duplicate of #67553 [05:18] so i was wondering to indicate #74648 as duplicated [05:18] bug 67553, 74648 [05:18] Malone bug 67553 in siege "double free or corruption in siege" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67553 [05:18] Malone bug 74648 in siege "siege always core dump" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74648 [05:18] (sec, dist-upgrade is running and thus churns) [05:19] it's correct? [05:20] New bug: #74653 in kdebase (main) "konqueror hangs forever when opening pdf (nondeterministic)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74653 [05:20] New bug: #74654 in xfce-mcs-manager (main) "Icon labels contain superfluous words in German localization" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74654 [05:20] btw, i've verify this problem on my installation too. so i have to change the problem as "confirmed" right? [05:21] sec, I need to log out and back in, then I'll read the bug reports === torkiano [n=torkiano@cm241045.red83-165.mundo-r.com] has left #ubuntu-bugs ["Konversation] [05:22] crimsun: ok, thanks :D [05:24] WARNING: No bugmail received in 30 minutes. Please poke Seveas. [05:24] haha [05:25] :) [05:25] time is relative [05:25] New bug: #74655 in gxine (main) "when I open a file .wma gxine crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74655 [05:26] xdatap: yes, 74648 is a dupe of 67553, and you can mark it thusly, then confirm 67553 [05:29] crimsun: done. So i replicated the bug, may be usefull add my problem too? [05:30] xdatap: if you wish. The fact that it's a dupe confirms the original. === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:33] crimsun: ok. So, now what's the next step for a good triage. Look for upstream, right? [05:34] xdatap: I normally check Debian BTS and then upstream's bug tracker [05:48] crimsun: do you think this is the same bug? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=385295 [05:48] Debian bug 385295 in siege "siege segfaults" [Grave,Closed] [05:50] crimsun: yes, it is. Palski discover it before me :D [05:50] New bug: #74656 in gconf (universe) "icon from hda1 on the desktop dont disappear" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74656 [05:51] although the diff he includes is only one of the two hunks [05:52] i have to go. Thanks crimsun. Bye everybody [05:53] hmm I didn't noticet that there were two diff in that debian report :) [05:53] so both fixes in that diff in included in feisty [05:57] seems to work ok on feisty [06:03] WARNING: No bugmail received in 30 minutes. Please poke Seveas. === rrittenhouse pokes Seveas [06:04] :P [06:05] Would that be worth of SRU? Currently siege is not usable on edgy? === a7p [n=Albrecht@p54AE071B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Jucato [n=jucato@58.69.161.249] has left #ubuntu-bugs ["Konversation] [06:10] New bug: #74657 in Ubuntu "floppy0 comes out of nowhere" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74657 [06:16] New bug: #71519 in linux-meta (main) "scheduling while atomic: swapper" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71519 [06:17] New bug: #74658 in gnome-power-manager (main) ""Notification Area" setting in gnome-power-preferences is broken by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74658 [06:17] New bug: #74659 in castle-combat (universe) "post-inst of castle-combat fails (python2.3/compileall.py)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74659 [06:17] New bug: #74661 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Crash when reading IMAP mail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74661 [06:17] New bug: #74662 in Ubuntu "ADSL modem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74662 [06:17] ouch === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [06:21] New bug: #74663 in Ubuntu "Herd 1 netinstall stalls on: Starting PC card services..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74663 [06:21] New bug: #74664 in upstart (main) "Boot parameters not passed to init scripts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74664 === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@R7750.r.ppp-pool.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [06:29] Glad to see so many ppl hanging out here. [06:30] This is my first time in #ubuntu-bugs and I have some unpleasant issue. [06:30] I believe the handling of bug 48517 is a disgrace to ubuntu. [06:30] Malone bug 48517 in sysvinit "Improper filesystem unmount order (swap on files)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/48517 [06:30] The bug can and has caused data loss. [06:30] It is easy to fix. [06:31] The person "in charge" did nothing but downgrade severity. [06:31] New bug: #74665 in mozilla (universe) "firefox crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74665 [06:31] meh [06:31] Is there some kind of guideline, some QA for bug QA? [06:31] stupid bot [06:32] "We absolutely, unequivocably, do not support systems using swap files instead of swap partitions." [06:32] haha [06:33] @reload Bugtracker [06:36] Jozo-: A joke, right. And nothing after that. Anything you suggest? [06:39] Laibsch: quote from bug 48517 by Scott James Remnant. If this is official something like official way say what Ubuntu doesn't supports.... [06:39] Malone bug 48517 in sysvinit "Improper filesystem unmount order (swap on files)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/48517 [06:40] s/official// [06:43] Jozo-: I know this is a quote. But there was nothing given as a backup to this claim. I can only assume this is NO official stance. Furthermore, as I said in the report. If it is not supported than that is OK, but it should really be NOT supported all the way, then. [06:44] Laibsch: I'm little bit disappointment what Scott said. [06:44] That is a gross understatement to what my feeling is. [06:44] I am pissed off. [06:45] I already said I think this is a disgrace and I believe his account should be downgraded for this improper handling, but it looks like he is a significant contribute. Which makes me wonder all the more why his dealings have been so poor on this one. [06:46] he's in -devel if you feel strongly. [06:46] New bug: #74646 in evince-gtk (main) "USN-390-1/2 apply to evince-gtk as well" [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74646 [06:46] although honestly, it would -really- help your case to be very civil even if you are displeased. [06:46] My question is if there are some kind of rules like the stuff quoted from Debian BTS on what constitutes a wishlist bug and what is really a big one. [06:46] crimsun: I try to. === Laibsch goes over to -devel === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [06:47] Laibsch: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=328582 [06:47] Debian bug 328582 in initscripts "/etc/init.d/umountfs: swapoff should be called before unmounting localfs and" [Normal,Closed] [06:47] Being civil always helps ;-) [06:47] New bug: #74666 in nautilus (main) "smb:/// show domain icon only sometimes..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74666 [06:48] Jozo-: Strange to find that in Debian BTS. I had swap files on my Debian system and never encountered this. [06:50] crimsun: What is his nick? [06:50] Laibsch: better to calm down, distro team people get hundred of bugs a week there is no way we can handle that load with that number of people so we have to pick battles and what we want to fix [06:50] New bug: #74668 in siege (main) "[SRU] Segfault (double free or corruption) in siege" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74668 [06:50] Laibsch: Scott is pretty busy and the best way to get that solved is to send a patch [06:51] Laibsch: keybuk. Have you ever considered buying a support contract? :) [06:51] Laibsch: that might be a real problem for you, still we few users use swap files and we have hundred of others bugs that might apply to everybody and should be fixed first [06:52] seb128: I think I am calm [06:52] crimsun: Why should I? I help out like everyone else. [06:52] so you should accept the maintainer decision to classify it as wishlist [06:53] fighting on the importance will lead you nowhere [06:53] Laibsch: it was half tongue-in-cheek, since paid support counts for something. [06:53] if the maintain has no time for it it'll not have extra time with an high importance [06:54] seb128: I am not in for a fight. I wanted to know if there are some guidelines. If not and this is just purely up to the maintainer and his mood of the day would shed a poor light on ubuntu. And make it unsuitable for any serious work. I believe this is not true. [06:54] Laibsch: well,there is no way you can force somebody else to do what he doesn't want to do [06:54] Laibsch: a contract might fix that [06:54] "fix" [06:54] seb128: This misses my point. [06:55] I really want to know if ubuntu has guidelines. [06:55] Ubuntu has guideline [06:55] and Scott's point is "Ubuntu doesn't support swap files" [06:55] I think this is one the strong points of debian and openembedded for example. [06:55] New bug: #74670 in Ubuntu "GNOME Clock has duplicate 0x20's on single-figure dates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74670 [06:55] It all about being able to rely on stuff. [06:55] if that's not supported that's a wishlist [06:55] right [06:55] seb128: Disable it if it is not supported. [06:55] Current situation is half-assed. [06:56] I don't mind it not being supported. [06:56] will, discuss with Scott [06:56] I do mind it not working and causing problems, BIG problems. [06:56] I was trying to explain why 50 people can't fix 10000 bugs and have to male calls like that [06:56] that's not bad willing [06:56] that's just a matter of workload [06:57] if you want to get that fixed find somebody who is wanting to make a patch [06:57] crimsun: No keybuk in -devel [06:57] either to disable the feature or to fix it [06:57] he's not around atm then [06:57] seb128: I do not want across wrongly. [06:58] I am not demanding an immediate fix or ANYTHING except for following sane guidelines (Boy, do I feel german now ;-)) [06:58] s/want/want to come/ [06:58] well [06:58] there is guideline on the wiki [06:59] Do you have an URL? [06:59] I know about the BugSquad page [06:59] let me browse the wiki for you [06:59] a sec [06:59] seb128: re patch. That is the weird thing. There is a patch right in the BTS! [06:59] Still no action. [07:00] no action [07:00] And no reason given why not to apply it. [07:00] for my part I'm lagging on 600 bug mails atm [07:00] New bug: #74671 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.19 (restricted) "OpenGL Issues on Geforce4 MX 440" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74671 [07:00] there is no way one people can handle that many bugs, no wonder we are not reactive on everything [07:00] well [07:00] try to manage 1000 bugs, you will get that's it's not possible to be responsive on everything even with good willing [07:01] that's the truth. alsa* has proven that so many times over. [07:01] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance has the guideline about importance [07:01] seb128: i'm at 794! === seb128 hugs dholbach [07:02] the desktop superstars! [07:02] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance === dholbach hugs crimsun superstar [07:02] seb128: Yes, thanks. [07:03] Laibsch: discuss with Scott when he's around I'm sure you will figure a way to solve that ;) [07:03] ~seen keybuk [07:03] he doesn't hang on that chan [07:04] he's usually on #ubuntu-devel during working hours european time [07:04] I c [07:04] Thanks guys. [07:04] np [07:04] and don't get a wrong impression on the community from one bug [07:05] I don't [07:05] Don't worry. [07:05] good :) [07:05] I am a member of BugSquad [07:05] I squash bugs in a number of FOSS projects [07:05] New bug: #74672 in wireless-tools (main) "ESSID gets truncated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74672 [07:05] I know this is hard to keep up. [07:06] All I wanted to see is that there are procedures to deal with problems, whatever the nature. [07:06] This instills confidence. === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [07:10] New bug: #74673 in Ubuntu "gweather_applet resets unit preferences to explicit values on restart" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74673 [07:15] New bug: #74675 in liferea (main) "Font settings come from nowhere" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74675 [07:17] I was pointed to an interesting article yesterday. Maybe you know about it, but I thought http://tieguy.org/talks/LCA-2005-paper-html was one very interesting read. [07:20] New bug: #74676 in xserver-xgl (universe) "xgl crash during inactivity" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74676 === calavera [n=calavera@195.Red-80-26-32.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [07:35] New bug: #74677 in kubuntu-meta (main) "No sound in Feisty 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74677 [07:35] New bug: #74678 in network-manager (main) "allow prioritizing of whitelisted networks" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74678 === mr_pouit [n=silk@LAubervilliers-151-12-125-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === pecisk [n=pecisk@purvc-44-54.maksinets.lv] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === joumetal [n=joumetal@laku34.adsl.netsonic.fi] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === fernando__ [n=fernando@189.0.133.125] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === fernando__ is now known as fernando === joe3k [n=joe@p549412AA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === joumetal [n=joumetal@laku34.adsl.netsonic.fi] has left #ubuntu-bugs ["Leaving"] === coyctecm [i=coy@re.corded.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [08:04] Can Malone do hierarchical bug dependencies? Bug A depends on bug B being fixed first? === dous [n=dous@124.104.0.197] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [08:06] New bug: #71412 in xubuntu-default-settings (main) "xubuntu gdm theme lacks an options button for the login screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71412 === geser [n=michael@leary.ping.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-38-117.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === ompaul [n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [08:16] New bug: #68836 in matchbox-panel (universe) "Segmentation fault" [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68836 [08:16] New bug: #68989 in pan (main) "crashes after loading headers" [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68989 [08:16] New bug: #74558 in Ubuntu "websites don't accept my password" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74558 === pascal80 [n=pascal@86-39-12-49.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === pascal80 [n=pascal@86-39-12-49.customer.fulladsl.be] has left #ubuntu-bugs ["Weggaan] [08:20] New bug: #74681 in ubiquity (main) "GrubInstaller failed - possibly because a win vista bootloader is installed i guess" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74681 === pascal80 [n=pascal@86-39-12-49.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === pascal80 [n=pascal@86-39-12-49.customer.fulladsl.be] has left #ubuntu-bugs ["Weggaan] === pascal80 [n=pascal@86-39-12-49.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [08:23] sfllaw, I subscribed a while ago to ubuntu-qa. 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