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| ckarini | okay | 02:19 |
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| jrib | hello | 02:20 |
| ckarini | hey | 02:20 |
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| jrib | ok were you able to download the tar.gz to your desktop? | 02:20 |
| ckarini | yes | 02:20 |
| jrib | ok, open up a terminal | 02:21 |
| ckarini | k | 02:21 |
| ckarini | i did | 02:21 |
| jrib | cd ~/Desktop | 02:21 |
| jrib | you downloaded the binary right? | 02:21 |
| ckarini | wait, should i change the directiory to the desktyop or the file? | 02:22 |
| jrib | I am assuming the tar.gz is on your desktop, so 'cd ~/Desktop' is to get you to the Desktop in the terminal | 02:22 |
| ckarini | im there | 02:22 |
| jrib | tar xvzf Step<TAB> where <TAB> is you pressing the tab button to complete the full name of the tar.gz | 02:23 |
| ckarini | waitwaitwait, you lost me on that one | 02:23 |
| nalioth | ckarini: tab completion is a wonderful thing | 02:24 |
| ckarini | i dont get what i do though | 02:24 |
| jrib | enter that in your terminal: | 02:24 |
| jrib | tar xvzf Step<TAB> | 02:24 |
| nalioth | ckarini: instead of <tab> hit the tab key | 02:25 |
| ckarini | i hit the tab key, but nothing happened | 02:25 |
| jrib | ok, what does this say: ls *ania* | 02:25 |
| ckarini | ls *ania* | 02:26 |
| ckarini | why? | 02:26 |
| nalioth | ckarini: in yoru terminal | 02:26 |
| jrib | I'll try to put commands in '' from now on | 02:26 |
| ckarini | okay | 02:27 |
| ckarini | i did that | 02:27 |
| jrib | ckarini: copy and paste the output here | 02:27 |
| nalioth | did anything return, ckarini ? | 02:27 |
| ckarini | aclocal.m4 configure Docs NEWS Utils | 02:27 |
| ckarini | autoconf configure.ac Makefile.am README-FIRST.html | 02:27 |
| ckarini | config.log Copying.txt Makefile.in src | 02:27 |
| jrib | ckarini: ok what does this command say: 'pwd' enter it without the quotes | 02:27 |
| ckarini | k | 02:28 |
| ckarini | /home/dom | 02:28 |
| ckarini | thats what it did | 02:28 |
| jrib | ok, now do 'cd ~/Desktop' the capitalization of the D is important | 02:28 |
| ckarini | okay, there | 02:29 |
| jrib | ok, what does 'pwd' say now? | 02:30 |
| ckarini | /home/dom/desktop | 02:30 |
| nalioth | ckarini: are you typing that or copying it? | 02:30 |
| ckarini | typing | 02:31 |
| ckarini | /home/dom/Desktop | 02:31 |
| ckarini | thats copied | 02:31 |
| jrib | great | 02:31 |
| nalioth | ckarini: in linux, letter case means different things | 02:31 |
| ckarini | oh | 02:31 |
| nalioth | /home/dom/desktop is NOT /home/dom/Desktop | 02:31 |
| ckarini | okay | 02:31 |
| jrib | now try: 'tar xvzf Step<TAB>' remember I just mean that you should press your TAB button instead of typing <TAB> | 02:32 |
| ckarini | k | 02:32 |
| ckarini | okay | 02:32 |
| jrib | the name should magically complete | 02:32 |
| ckarini | yeah | 02:32 |
| ckarini | it did | 02:32 |
| ckarini | then enter? | 02:32 |
| jrib | yep | 02:32 |
| ckarini | dom@dom-desktop:~/Desktop$ tar xvzf StepMania-3.9-src | 02:33 |
| ckarini | tar: StepMania-3.9-src: Cannot read: Is a directory | 02:33 |
| ckarini | tar: At beginning of tape, quitting now | 02:33 |
| ckarini | tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now | 02:33 |
| ckarini | gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file | 02:33 |
| ckarini | tar: Child returned status 2 | 02:33 |
| ckarini | tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors | 02:33 |
| ckarini | dom@dom-desktop:~/Desktop$ dom@dom-desktop:~/Desktop$ tar xvzf StepMania-3.9-srcbash: dom@dom-desktop:~/Desktop$: No such file or directory | 02:33 |
| ckarini | dom@dom-desktop:~/Desktop$ | 02:33 |
| nalioth | it automagically untarred, it seems | 02:33 |
| jrib | that's ok, that is the wrong file. We need the binary | 02:33 |
| ckarini | uh, i dont understand the moonspeak | 02:34 |
| jrib | this command will download it from the internet: 'wget http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/stepmania/StepMania-3.9a-linux.tar.gz' | 02:34 |
| jrib | the step mania site offers binary and source. Source is the source code, which gets compiled into a binary that your computer can actually run | 02:35 |
| ckarini | it 404'd me. | 02:35 |
| jrib | ok, visit http://www.stepmania.com/wiki/Downloads and download the linux binary to your desktop | 02:36 |
| nalioth | jrib: that is a dynamic link you gave (mean ol' sourceforge) | 02:36 |
| ckarini | okay it downloaded | 02:37 |
| jrib | ok is it called StepMania-3.9a-linux.tar.gz? | 02:37 |
| ckarini | yep | 02:38 |
| jrib | tar xvzf StepMania-3.9a-linux.tar.gz feel free to use the TAB button to complete most of it like before | 02:38 |
| ckarini | dom@dom-desktop:~/Desktop$ tar xvzf StepMania-3.9 | 02:39 |
| ckarini | tar: StepMania-3.9: Cannot open: No such file or directory | 02:39 |
| ckarini | tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now | 02:39 |
| ckarini | tar: Child returned status 2 | 02:39 |
| ckarini | tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors | 02:39 |
| jrib | 'tar xvzf StepMania-3.9a-linux.tar.gz' you need to complete the end | 02:40 |
| ckarini | okay, | 02:40 |
| nalioth | ckarini: just type one letter more in the name and then hit <tab> | 02:40 |
| ckarini | okay, it did all this stuff like | 02:41 |
| ckarini | 1337 and stuff | 02:41 |
| ckarini | i think in installed..... | 02:41 |
| jrib | 'cd StepMania-3.9' | 02:41 |
| ckarini | i dont know though | 02:41 |
| ckarini | okay | 02:42 |
| ckarini | i did that | 02:42 |
| jrib | now: './stepmania' | 02:42 |
| jrib | and it will take over your screen... | 02:42 |
| ckarini | StepMania 3.9 | 02:43 |
| ckarini | Log starting 2006-12-05 20:39:22 | 02:43 |
| ckarini | Loading window: gtk | 02:43 |
| ckarini | OS: Linux ver 020615 | 02:43 |
| ckarini | Crash backtrace component: x86 custom backtrace | 02:43 |
| ckarini | Crash lookup component: dladdr | 02:43 |
| ckarini | Crash demangle component: cxa_demangle | 02:43 |
| ckarini | Runtime library: glibc 2.3.6 | 02:43 |
| ckarini | Threads library: NPTL 2.3.6 | 02:43 |
| ckarini | TLS is available | 02:43 |
| ckarini | ALSA: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10rc3 (Mon Nov 07 13:30:21 2005 UTC). | 02:43 |
| ckarini | ALSA Driver: 0: ESS Allegro PCI [PCI] , device 0: Allegro [Allegro] , 2/2 subdevices avail | 02:43 |
| ckarini | Couldn't load driver ALSA: Not enough substreams for hardware mixing, using software mixing | 02:43 |
| jrib | !pastebin | ckarini | 02:43 |
| ubotu | ckarini: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 02:43 |
| ckarini | ALSA: Software mixing at 44100hz | 02:43 |
| ckarini | Sound driver: ALSA-sw | 02:43 |
| ckarini | Video renderers: 'opengl' | 02:43 |
| ckarini | SDL version: 1.2.9 | 02:43 |
| ckarini | Got 24 bpp (8880), 16 depth, 0 stencil | 02:44 |
| ckarini | Paletted textures disabled: GL_EXT_paletted_texture missing. | 02:44 |
| jrib | ckarini: close any program you have using sound | 02:44 |
| ckarini | OGL Vendor: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org | 02:44 |
| ckarini | OGL Renderer: Mesa GLX Indirect | 02:44 |
| ckarini | OGL Version: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1) | 02:44 |
| ckarini | OGL Extensions: GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_shadow_ambient GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_window_pos GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_ | 02:44 |
| ckarini | blend_color GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_logic_op GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint GL_EXT_copy_texture GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_polygon_offset GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_stencil_two_side GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_subte | 02:44 |
| ckarini | xture GL_EXT_texture GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_texture_rectangle GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_APPLE_packed_pixels GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3 GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once GL_ATIX_texture_env_combine3 GL_HP_occlusion_test GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_INGR_blend_func_separate GL_MESA_pack_invert | 02:44 |
| ckarini | GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_point_sprite GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_texture_rectangle GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_SGIX_depth_texture GL_SGIX_shadow GL_SGIX_shadow_ambient GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays | 02:44 |
| ckarini | OGL Max texture size: 2048 | 02:44 |
| ckarini | GLU Version: 1.3 | 02:44 |
| ckarini | Display: :0.0 (screen 0) | 02:44 |
| ckarini | Direct rendering: no | 02:44 |
| ckarini | X server vendor: The X.Org Foundation [7.0.0.0] | 02:44 |
| nalioth | whoa | 02:44 |
| ckarini | Server GLX vendor: SGI [1.2] | 02:44 |
| ckarini | Client GLX vendor: SGI [1.4] | 02:44 |
| ckarini | Mixing 361.804511 ahead in 532 Mix() calls | 02:44 |
| ckarini | Language: english | 02:44 |
| ckarini | Current renderer: OpenGL | 02:44 |
| ckarini | Theme: default | 02:44 |
| ckarini | Error: There was an error while initializing your video card. | 02:44 |
| ckarini | PLEASE DO NOT FILE THIS ERROR AS A BUG! | 02:44 |
| ckarini | Video Driver: OpenGL | 02:44 |
| ckarini | Initializing OpenGL... | 02:45 |
| ckarini | Your system is reporting that direct rendering is not available. Please obtain an updated driver from your video card manufacturer. | 02:45 |
| ckarini | okay | 02:45 |
| nalioth | !pastebin | 02:45 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 02:45 |
| ckarini | i did | 02:45 |
| jrib | ckarini: does it work if you close all programs playing sound before entering that command? | 02:45 |
| ckarini | nope | 02:46 |
| ckarini | it did the same thing | 02:46 |
| jrib | k, lets read the README | 02:47 |
| ckarini | ok | 02:47 |
| jrib | oh I just read the bottom of your error | 02:47 |
| ckarini | yeah... | 02:47 |
| jrib | ckarini: what kind of video card do you have? | 02:47 |
| ckarini | i dont know. | 02:48 |
| jrib | ckarini: 'lspci' put the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please | 02:48 |
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| ckarini | wait, i put in lspci, | 02:49 |
| ckarini | what did i just do? | 02:49 |
| nalioth | did you get any return, ckarini ? | 02:49 |
| ckarini | yeah | 02:49 |
| nalioth | jrib: will probably have a question or want you to use a pastebin to display the results | 02:50 |
| jrib | great, now visit http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org . Then copy and paste the output into the box on the web form and submit. Give us the url when you are done | 02:50 |
| ckarini | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35505/ | 02:51 |
| ckarini | what did that do? | 02:53 |
| jrib | I'm not familiar with intel video cards, let me search and see if I can find out | 02:54 |
| ckarini | k | 02:54 |
| jrib | ckarini: you have an intel 82810 by the way | 03:01 |
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| ckarini | okay | 03:03 |
| ckarini | so what can i do to get step mania working | 03:03 |
| jrib | well what we need to do is get direct rendering on your intel 82810 | 03:04 |
| ckarini | how? | 03:04 |
| jrib | once you do that, step mania should be working | 03:04 |
| jrib | I don't know, like I said, i am searching | 03:04 |
| ckarini | okay | 03:04 |
| jrib | 'glxinfo | grep rendering' | 03:06 |
| ckarini | do i put the grep rendering part in? | 03:07 |
| jrib | yes, everything between the '' | 03:08 |
| ckarini | okay | 03:08 |
| ckarini | it was pretty straight forward with that one. | 03:08 |
| ckarini | direct rendering: No | 03:08 |
| jrib | the | lets you send output from the first command as input to the second command. The 'grep' command searches for words | 03:08 |
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| ckarini | so now what do i do? | 03:09 |
| jrib | ckarini: try asking in #ubuntu how to enable direct rendering on your intel 82810 . If I come across it before you find out, I'll let you know. But stepmania should work after you get direict rendering enabled | 03:09 |
| ckarini | okay | 03:10 |
| ckarini | thanks alot | 03:10 |
| jrib | ckarini: 'apt-cache policy nvidia-glx libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-dri' | 03:18 |
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| ckarini | that may have worked, | 03:21 |
| ckarini | it did somthing | 03:21 |
| ckarini | so assume, it did work, what do i do now? | 03:21 |
| ckarini | wait, what even was that? | 03:23 |
| jrib | that command just gathers information | 03:23 |
| ckarini | oh. | 03:23 |
| jrib | please pastebin the output | 03:23 |
| ckarini | okay | 03:23 |
| ckarini | dom@dom-desktop:~/Desktop/StepMania-3.9$ apt-cache policy nvidia-glx libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-dri | 03:23 |
| ckarini | nvidia-glx: | 03:23 |
| ckarini | Installed: (none) | 03:23 |
| ckarini | Candidate: 1.0.8776+2.6.15.12-1 | 03:23 |
| ckarini | Version table: | 03:23 |
| ckarini | 1.0.8776+2.6.15.12-1 0 | 03:23 |
| ckarini | 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages | 03:23 |
| ckarini | 1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-1 0 | 03:23 |
| ckarini | 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Packages | 03:23 |
| ckarini | libgl1-mesa-dri: | 03:23 |
| ckarini | Installed: 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 | 03:23 |
| ckarini | Candidate: 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 | 03:23 |
| ckarini | Version table: | 03:23 |
| ckarini | *** 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 0 | 03:23 |
| ckarini | 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages | 03:24 |
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| ckarini | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | 03:24 |
| ckarini | libgl1-mesa-dri: | 03:24 |
| ckarini | Installed: 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 | 03:24 |
| ckarini | Candidate: 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 | 03:24 |
| ckarini | Version table: | 03:24 |
| ckarini | *** 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 0 | 03:24 |
| ckarini | 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages | 03:24 |
| ckarini | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | 03:24 |
| ckarini | oops. | 03:24 |
| ckarini | well, should i do it there again anyways? | 03:24 |
| jrib | nah | 03:24 |
| jrib | ok, 'gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' to pastebin please | 03:24 |
| ckarini | ok | 03:24 |
| ckarini | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35508/ | 03:26 |
| jrib | hmmmm | 03:27 |
| nalioth | ckarini: this channel is NOT a pastebin | 03:28 |
| nalioth | ckarini: please visit paste.ubuntulinux.nl and paste your stuff THERE | 03:28 |
| nalioth | it makes a big difference in how you are helped, as pastebins can be accessed easily tomorrow or next week | 03:29 |
| nalioth | these channel logs are hard to parse after a day or so | 03:29 |
| ckarini | okay | 03:30 |
| ckarini | jrib: any ideas yet? | 03:30 |
| jrib | ckarini: well I don't reall know what to suggest. The only reference I found that I thought might be useful was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232651 . But your configuration seems fine. I suggest you make a post on the forums or send an email to the ubuntu-users mailing list. Someone with an intel themselves may be able to help better | 03:30 |
| ckarini | okay | 03:31 |
| jrib | ckarini: be sure to include your xorg.conf and the result of the 'glxinfo | grep direct' command. As well as your video card | 03:31 |
| ckarini | okay | 03:32 |
| ckarini | well, in short, whats the main problem | 03:32 |
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| jrib | the lack of direct rendering | 03:32 |
| ckarini | and when direct rendering is enabled, i can install it? | 03:33 |
| jrib | stepmania is "installed" I guess. Running that "stepmania" file is trying to run stepmania | 03:34 |
| ckarini | oh, | 03:34 |
| jrib | you should see a "stepmania" file inside the folder on your desktop. Once you get it working, you can just double click that. For now though, I recommend you try './stepmania' after 'cd ~/Desktop/StepMania-3.9'. That way you get useful error output | 03:35 |
| ckarini | so, if direct rendering is on, the program will run? | 03:35 |
| jrib | well yes, I assume so | 03:35 |
| ckarini | because i have the program icon and everything, but when i click on it, it loads, then just goes right back to the desktop | 03:36 |
| jrib | yeah, it's the lack of direct rendering that causes that | 03:36 |
| ckarini | oh, so i have to try to find out how to enable direct rendering? | 03:36 |
| jrib | exactly | 03:36 |
| ckarini | okay. | 03:37 |
| ckarini | look at this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=277065 | 03:38 |
| jrib | ckarini: ubuntuforums.org and https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users are two possibilities for reaching more people than on irc | 03:38 |
| ckarini | does that help? | 03:38 |
| jrib | ckarini: no, that is for nvidia | 03:38 |
| ckarini | oh. | 03:39 |
| jrib | nvidia is a different kind of video card | 03:39 |
| ckarini | what about | 03:40 |
| ckarini | http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Direct_rendering_on_Intel_Extreme_Graphics_(855GM)_chipsets | 03:40 |
| ckarini | does that one help at all? | 03:42 |
| jrib | it mentions something but I would not rely on it without corroboration from a different source | 03:42 |
| jrib | "The VideoRam option is very critical. The chip..." but the person on ubuntuforums did not have that line | 03:43 |
| ckarini | oh, well, should we try it yet, or not, | 03:43 |
| jrib | I think it would be better if you found someone that could tell you something that would work for sure | 03:43 |
| jrib | If we mess up, you will be without a gui | 03:43 |
| ckarini | and thats not good. | 03:44 |
| jrib | hmmm | 03:45 |
| ckarini | now wait, | 03:45 |
| ckarini | look at this http://www.stepmania.com/wiki/Video_Card_Compatibility | 03:45 |
| jrib | I just checked the ubuntu person's xorg.conf and he has the videoram line as well | 03:45 |
| jrib | yes, I saw that | 03:45 |
| jrib | (you don't have the videoram line) | 03:45 |
| ckarini | oh. | 03:46 |
| ckarini | so whats the videoram line | 03:46 |
| jrib | so that's looking more and more like it be the problem | 03:46 |
| jrib | ckarini: type ctrl-f in your browser and enter "videoram" | 03:47 |
| jrib | ignore my message in #ubuntu, wrong window | 03:47 |
| jrib | do you know how much ram you have? | 03:48 |
| ckarini | nope | 03:49 |
| jrib | 'free -m' | 03:49 |
| ckarini | wait, what browser? | 03:49 |
| jrib | firefox for example | 03:49 |
| ckarini | oh | 03:49 |
| jrib | on the gentoo wiki page or the forum post I linked to earlier | 03:49 |
| ckarini | wait, doesnt ctrl-f find stuff? | 03:50 |
| jrib | yes | 03:50 |
| jrib | you asked what the videoram line was | 03:50 |
| ckarini | then i just open firefox and type videoram? | 03:51 |
| ckarini | in a search thing | 03:51 |
| jrib | do you have the gentoo wiki page opened that you linked me to? | 03:51 |
| ckarini | no | 03:51 |
| jrib | ok, nevermind, it isn't important | 03:52 |
| ckarini | okay. | 03:52 |
| jrib | ckarini: what does 'free -m' say? | 03:52 |
| ckarini | total used free shared buffers cached | 03:53 |
| ckarini | Mem: 312 308 3 0 4 80 | 03:53 |
| ckarini | -/+ buffers/cache: 223 89 | 03:53 |
| ckarini | Swap: 619 64 554 | 03:53 |
| ckarini | dom@dom-desktop:~$ | 03:53 |
| jrib | ok you have 312mb ram | 03:53 |
| jrib | we should allocate some of that to the video card | 03:54 |
| jrib | ckarini: would you like to try? | 03:55 |
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| ckarini | yeah | 04:27 |
| ckarini | sorry it took so long | 04:27 |
| ckarini | wait, is it safe enough? | 04:27 |
| ckarini | hey jrib, what do i do | 04:31 |
| jrib | well | 04:32 |
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| jrib | I can explain what to do in case it doesn't work | 04:32 |
| ckarini | okay | 04:32 |
| jrib | ok here is what we are basically going to do: | 04:32 |
| jrib | 1. backup xorg.conf | 04:32 |
| jrib | 2. edit xorg.conf and save changes | 04:32 |
| jrib | 3. restart X | 04:33 |
| jrib | X is the gui stuff | 04:33 |
| ckarini | okay | 04:33 |
| jrib | now when you restart X, if we mess up, it may fail to start | 04:33 |
| ckarini | so i put all that in the terminal? | 04:33 |
| jrib | no that's just my explanation, I will give you the commands after I explain what to do in case it doens't work | 04:33 |
| ckarini | okay, so if it doesnt work, i can fix it, right? | 04:34 |
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| jrib | ok, ctrl-alt-f1 brings you to a tty (a terminal) and ctrl-alt-f7 brings you back to the current "gui" display you have. Try pressing ctrl-alt-f1 now to and then press ctrl-alt-f7 to get back | 04:34 |
| jrib | ckarini: yes | 04:34 |
| ckarini | uh...... | 04:35 |
| ckarini | yeah | 04:35 |
| jrib | ckarini: ok, you saw some login window, once you login there you would get to a terminal. Just like where you were entering commands before | 04:35 |
| ckarini | okay | 04:35 |
| jrib | ok write this down on a piece of papaer, remember capitalization is important: | 04:36 |
| ckarini | yeah | 04:36 |
| ckarini | alright | 04:36 |
| ckarini | ready | 04:36 |
| jrib | 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf' do not execute this now. This is for restoring the backup in case something goes wrong later | 04:36 |
| ckarini | oaky | 04:38 |
| jrib | so if something went wrong, you would hit ctrl-alt-f1, login, and enter that command. Then you would restart X, with: 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart' | 04:38 |
| ckarini | okay | 04:39 |
| jrib | ok, that should get you back to your current configuration. Now lets edit your current one | 04:39 |
| ckarini | hold on a minute | 04:39 |
| JVH | I don't want to interupt, but when time permits, I could use a little help. | 04:42 |
| jrib | JVH: what's the question? | 04:42 |
| JVH | I have installed Ubuntu server. I need to access routers and access point that use a web based config screens. | 04:43 |
| JVH | I can't find a browser anywhere in the system. | 04:43 |
| ckarini | okay | 04:44 |
| ckarini | so what am i doing | 04:44 |
| jrib | JVH: maybe http://shon.org/blog/?p=22 ? If you want, you can install X and have a gui with more choices. Also, links2 is a good command line web browser, better than lynx that you could try | 04:44 |
| jrib | ckarini: create the backup: 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup' | 04:45 |
| ckarini | in the terminal? | 04:45 |
| jrib | ckarini: right | 04:45 |
| ckarini | okay | 04:45 |
| ckarini | okay, i did that | 04:46 |
| jrib | ckarini: 'gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' | 04:46 |
| JVH | I am brand new to Linux, I thought lynx was a test only browser? | 04:46 |
| jrib | JVH: you can browse the web with it if you want | 04:47 |
| ckarini | okay, i did that | 04:47 |
| JVH | ok I will give it a try, thought maybe mozilla, netscape, firefox was hidden somewhere in there. | 04:48 |
| jrib | JVH: you can isntall them if you want. But you will need X to run them in | 04:48 |
| jrib | JVH: do you want a gui environment on the server? | 04:49 |
| ckarini | okay, it gave me some text file | 04:49 |
| jrib | ckarini: ok please go to line 92, it should say: Identifier"Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] " | 04:49 |
| JVH | Only if I need one. I am attempting to build an Asterisk PBX server. | 04:49 |
| jrib | JVH: k, my suggestion would be to try that suggestion about lynx on that blog. If that doesn't work, try installing links2 (sudo apt-get install links2) and using that | 04:50 |
| ckarini | wait, i dont get it. | 04:51 |
| jrib | ckarini: right now you have http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35508/ in your editor correct? | 04:51 |
| ckarini | yeah | 04:52 |
| jrib | ok, scroll down to the part that looks like (it starts on line 91): | 04:52 |
| JVH | What would be the command to install a gui? Like the desktop ubuntu has. Is that gnome? | 04:52 |
| jrib | 091. Section "Device" | 04:52 |
| jrib | 092. Identifier"Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] " | 04:52 |
| jrib | 093. Driver"i810" | 04:52 |
| jrib | 094. BusID"PCI:0:1:0" | 04:52 |
| ckarini | okay | 04:52 |
| ckarini | wait, i dont think it looks like that | 04:53 |
| jrib | JVH: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will give you it all. xubuntu-desktop and kubutnu-desktop are other options using xfce and kde, respectively. You can also have lighter environments like fluxbox, openbox, etc | 04:53 |
| jrib | ckarini: that is what you pasted before | 04:53 |
| jrib | except where you see inverted I's, you should see tabs in your editor | 04:54 |
| jrib | and no line numbers | 04:54 |
| JVH | ok I will give it a try thanks jrib. | 04:54 |
| jrib | JVH: np | 04:54 |
| ckarini | yeah | 04:54 |
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| jrib | ckarini: ok, you found it? | 04:54 |
| ckarini | but i cant find that one part | 04:54 |
| jrib | be more specific | 04:55 |
| jrib | press ctrl-f and enter i810, you should be there after a few hits | 04:55 |
| ckarini | oh wait, i round it | 04:55 |
| jrib | ok | 04:55 |
| ckarini | found it | 04:55 |
| ckarini | now what | 04:55 |
| jrib | now put a new line after 094. BusID"PCI:0:1:0" that says: | 04:56 |
| jrib | VideoRam 16384 | 04:56 |
| ckarini | okay did it | 04:56 |
| jrib | that will give you 16 mb of video ram, I don't know if that is optimal for you or not, but you can explore later | 04:56 |
| jrib | 1024*16=16384 by the way | 04:57 |
| ckarini | okay, so what do i do with that | 04:57 |
| jrib | ok save it and then please pastebin what it looks like now | 04:57 |
| ckarini | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35516/ | 04:58 |
| jrib | ckarini: ok, indent the line that you added so it matches with the others, just press TAB at the beginning of the line | 04:59 |
| jrib | I don't think it matters but just in case | 04:59 |
| ckarini | okay | 04:59 |
| ckarini | save it again? | 05:00 |
| jrib | yes | 05:00 |
| ckarini | k, now what | 05:00 |
| jrib | now we part and hopefully you will be back soon | 05:00 |
| jrib | save anything you are working on | 05:00 |
| ckarini | wait, what? | 05:00 |
| ckarini | so, your going, or, what | 05:01 |
| jrib | I am about to give you the command to restart X | 05:01 |
| ckarini | oh | 05:01 |
| jrib | that will close all your programs | 05:01 |
| ckarini | oh | 05:01 |
| jrib | ok, you know what to do in case it fails? Worst case scenario, put in a live cd and visit #ubuntu again | 05:02 |
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| ckarini | yeah | 05:02 |
| jrib | ctrl-alt-backspace will restart X | 05:02 |
| ckarini | okay | 05:02 |
| ckarini | so when do i do that | 05:02 |
| jrib | now | 05:02 |
| ckarini | then what do i do after that | 05:03 |
| jrib | join me here again, or just try stepmania and see if it works | 05:03 |
| ckarini | okay, | 05:03 |
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| jrib | 'glxinfo | grep direct' | 05:07 |
| ckarini | okay so it didnt work | 05:07 |
| ckarini | still no direct rendering | 05:07 |
| jrib | check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure the changes are there | 05:08 |
| ckarini | permission denied | 05:09 |
| jrib | 'gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' is the command. gedit is a text editor and /etc/X11/xorg.conf is a text file | 05:09 |
| ckarini | yeah, it had the video thing on it | 05:10 |
| jrib | idk then | 05:10 |
| ckarini | oh | 05:10 |
| jrib | try the forums and mailing list | 05:10 |
| ckarini | okay | 05:11 |
| jrib | or #ubuntu again | 05:11 |
| ckarini | thanks for all your help | 05:11 |
| jrib | maybe someone new knows | 05:11 |
| jrib | ckarini: n, hope you get it | 05:11 |
| jrib | n = no problem | 05:11 |
| ckarini | thanks | 05:11 |
| ckarini | alright | 05:11 |
| ckarini | ill see ya later | 05:11 |
| jrib | bye | 05:11 |
| ckarini | maybe | 05:11 |
| ckarini | see ya | 05:11 |
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| unix_infidel | hey guys, wondering if the systems administration class went down on the 2nd or 3rd. | 05:43 |
| unix_infidel | I didnt see a lectururer posted at that time on the website, nor has a transcript been posted, so i was just curious. | 05:43 |
| tonyyarusso | unix_infidel: I'm not aware of one, but I'm not sure | 05:44 |
| unix_infidel | tonyyarusso: i was referring to the post on the wiki. | 05:45 |
| unix_infidel | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom | 05:45 |
| tonyyarusso | unix_infidel: I know what you meant - I didn't hear one happen. | 05:45 |
| unix_infidel | Personally, I think skipping 101 and going straight to Advanced Administration would be more beneficial :) | 05:45 |
| unix_infidel | tonyyarusso: thanks, I'll be looking for updates. | 05:45 |
| unix_infidel | Btw, nice lecture on gpg 101 a while back. | 05:46 |
| tonyyarusso | unix_infidel: Thanks. (I finally _did_ get those transcripts up...) | 05:46 |
| unix_infidel | :p | 05:46 |
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| === Topic for #ubuntu-classroom: Ubuntu Open Week has now finished - thanks , everyone! | Transcripts and logs are at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts and http://www.tonyyarusso.is-a-geek.com/irclogs/openweek/ - actually down atm for hardware troubleshooting (bloody clock..) | ||
| === Topic (#ubuntu-classroom): set by tonyyarusso at Mon Dec 4 01:29:49 2006 | ||
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