[02:19] <ckarini> okay
[02:20] <jrib> hello
[02:20] <ckarini> hey
[02:20] <jrib> ok were you able to download the tar.gz to your desktop?
[02:20] <ckarini> yes
[02:21] <jrib> ok, open up a terminal
[02:21] <ckarini> k
[02:21] <ckarini> i did
[02:21] <jrib> cd ~/Desktop
[02:21] <jrib> you downloaded the binary right?
[02:22] <ckarini> wait, should i change the directiory to the desktyop or the file?
[02:22] <jrib> I am assuming the tar.gz is on your desktop, so 'cd ~/Desktop' is to get you to the Desktop in the terminal
[02:22] <ckarini> im there
[02:23] <jrib> tar xvzf Step<TAB>      where <TAB> is you pressing the tab button to complete the full name of the tar.gz
[02:23] <ckarini> waitwaitwait, you lost me on that one
[02:24] <nalioth> ckarini: tab completion is a wonderful thing
[02:24] <ckarini> i dont get what i do though
[02:24] <jrib> enter that in your terminal:
[02:24] <jrib> tar xvzf Step<TAB>
[02:25] <nalioth> ckarini: instead of <tab> hit the tab key
[02:25] <ckarini> i hit the tab key, but nothing happened
[02:25] <jrib> ok, what does this say:        ls *ania*
[02:26] <ckarini> ls *ania*
[02:26] <ckarini> why?
[02:26] <nalioth> ckarini: in yoru terminal
[02:26] <jrib> I'll try to put commands in '' from now on
[02:27] <ckarini> okay
[02:27] <ckarini> i did that
[02:27] <jrib> ckarini: copy and paste the output here
[02:27] <nalioth> did anything return, ckarini ?
[02:27] <ckarini> aclocal.m4  configure     Docs         NEWS               Utils
[02:27] <ckarini> autoconf    configure.ac  Makefile.am  README-FIRST.html
[02:27] <ckarini> config.log  Copying.txt   Makefile.in  src
[02:27] <jrib> ckarini: ok what does this command say:   'pwd'     enter it without the quotes
[02:28] <ckarini> k
[02:28] <ckarini> /home/dom
[02:28] <ckarini> thats what it did
[02:28] <jrib> ok, now do    'cd ~/Desktop'    the capitalization of the D is important
[02:29] <ckarini> okay, there
[02:30] <jrib> ok, what does 'pwd' say now?
[02:30] <ckarini> /home/dom/desktop
[02:30] <nalioth> ckarini: are you typing that or copying it?
[02:31] <ckarini> typing
[02:31] <ckarini> /home/dom/Desktop
[02:31] <ckarini> thats copied
[02:31] <jrib> great
[02:31] <nalioth> ckarini: in linux, letter case means different things
[02:31] <ckarini> oh
[02:31] <nalioth> /home/dom/desktop is NOT /home/dom/Desktop
[02:31] <ckarini> okay
[02:32] <jrib> now try:  'tar xvzf Step<TAB>'    remember I just mean that you should press your TAB button instead of typing <TAB>
[02:32] <ckarini> k
[02:32] <ckarini> okay
[02:32] <jrib> the name should magically complete
[02:32] <ckarini> yeah
[02:32] <ckarini> it did
[02:32] <ckarini> then enter?
[02:32] <jrib> yep
[02:33] <ckarini> dom@dom-desktop:~/Desktop$ tar xvzf StepMania-3.9-src
[02:33] <ckarini> tar: StepMania-3.9-src: Cannot read: Is a directory
[02:33] <ckarini> tar: At beginning of tape, quitting now
[02:33] <ckarini> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[02:33] <ckarini> gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file
[02:33] <ckarini> tar: Child returned status 2
[02:33] <ckarini> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[02:33] <ckarini> dom@dom-desktop:~/Desktop$ dom@dom-desktop:~/Desktop$ tar xvzf StepMania-3.9-srcbash: dom@dom-desktop:~/Desktop$: No such file or directory
[02:33] <ckarini> dom@dom-desktop:~/Desktop$
[02:33] <nalioth> it automagically untarred, it seems
[02:33] <jrib> that's ok, that is the wrong file.  We need the binary
[02:34] <ckarini> uh, i dont understand the moonspeak
[02:34] <jrib> this command will download it from the internet:  'wget http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/stepmania/StepMania-3.9a-linux.tar.gz'
[02:35] <jrib> the step mania site offers binary and source.  Source is the source code, which gets compiled into a binary that your computer can actually run
[02:35] <ckarini> it 404'd me.
[02:36] <jrib> ok, visit http://www.stepmania.com/wiki/Downloads and download the linux binary to your desktop
[02:36] <nalioth> jrib: that is a dynamic link you gave (mean ol' sourceforge)
[02:37] <ckarini> okay it downloaded
[02:37] <jrib> ok is it called StepMania-3.9a-linux.tar.gz?
[02:38] <ckarini> yep
[02:38] <jrib> tar xvzf StepMania-3.9a-linux.tar.gz      feel free to use the TAB button to complete most of it like before
[02:39] <ckarini> dom@dom-desktop:~/Desktop$ tar xvzf StepMania-3.9
[02:39] <ckarini> tar: StepMania-3.9: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[02:39] <ckarini> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[02:39] <ckarini> tar: Child returned status 2
[02:39] <ckarini> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[02:40] <jrib> 'tar xvzf StepMania-3.9a-linux.tar.gz'   you need to complete the end
[02:40] <ckarini> okay,
[02:40] <nalioth> ckarini: just type one letter more in the name and then hit <tab>
[02:41] <ckarini> okay, it did all this stuff like
[02:41] <ckarini> 1337 and stuff
[02:41] <ckarini> i think in installed.....
[02:41] <jrib> 'cd StepMania-3.9'
[02:41] <ckarini> i dont know though
[02:42] <ckarini> okay
[02:42] <ckarini> i did that
[02:42] <jrib> now:  './stepmania'
[02:42] <jrib> and it will take over your screen...
[02:43] <ckarini> StepMania 3.9
[02:43] <ckarini> Log starting 2006-12-05 20:39:22
[02:43] <ckarini> Loading window: gtk
[02:43] <ckarini> OS: Linux ver 020615
[02:43] <ckarini> Crash backtrace component: x86 custom backtrace
[02:43] <ckarini> Crash lookup component: dladdr
[02:43] <ckarini> Crash demangle component: cxa_demangle
[02:43] <ckarini> Runtime library: glibc 2.3.6
[02:43] <ckarini> Threads library: NPTL 2.3.6
[02:43] <ckarini> TLS is available
[02:43] <ckarini> ALSA: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10rc3 (Mon Nov 07 13:30:21 2005 UTC).
[02:43] <ckarini> ALSA Driver: 0: ESS Allegro PCI [PCI] , device 0: Allegro [Allegro] , 2/2 subdevices avail
[02:43] <ckarini> Couldn't load driver ALSA: Not enough substreams for hardware mixing, using software mixing
[02:43] <jrib> !pastebin | ckarini
[02:43] <ubotu> ckarini: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:43] <ckarini> ALSA: Software mixing at 44100hz
[02:43] <ckarini> Sound driver: ALSA-sw
[02:43] <ckarini> Video renderers: 'opengl'
[02:43] <ckarini> SDL version: 1.2.9
[02:44] <ckarini> Got 24 bpp (8880), 16 depth, 0 stencil
[02:44] <ckarini> Paletted textures disabled: GL_EXT_paletted_texture missing.
[02:44] <jrib> ckarini: close any program you have using sound
[02:44] <ckarini> OGL Vendor: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[02:44] <ckarini> OGL Renderer: Mesa GLX Indirect
[02:44] <ckarini> OGL Version: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[02:44] <ckarini> OGL Extensions: GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_shadow_ambient GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_window_pos GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_
[02:44] <ckarini> blend_color GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_logic_op GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint GL_EXT_copy_texture GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_polygon_offset GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_stencil_two_side GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_subte
[02:44] <ckarini> xture GL_EXT_texture GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_texture_rectangle GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_APPLE_packed_pixels GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3 GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once GL_ATIX_texture_env_combine3 GL_HP_occlusion_test GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_INGR_blend_func_separate GL_MESA_pack_invert
[02:44] <ckarini>  GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_point_sprite GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_texture_rectangle GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_SGIX_depth_texture GL_SGIX_shadow GL_SGIX_shadow_ambient GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays
[02:44] <ckarini> OGL Max texture size: 2048
[02:44] <ckarini> GLU Version: 1.3
[02:44] <ckarini> Display: :0.0 (screen 0)
[02:44] <ckarini> Direct rendering: no
[02:44] <ckarini> X server vendor: The X.Org Foundation [7.0.0.0] 
[02:44] <nalioth> whoa
[02:44] <ckarini> Server GLX vendor: SGI [1.2] 
[02:44] <ckarini> Client GLX vendor: SGI [1.4] 
[02:44] <ckarini> Mixing 361.804511 ahead in 532 Mix() calls
[02:44] <ckarini> Language: english
[02:44] <ckarini> Current renderer: OpenGL
[02:44] <ckarini> Theme: default
[02:44] <ckarini> Error: There was an error while initializing your video card.
[02:44] <ckarini>    PLEASE DO NOT FILE THIS ERROR AS A BUG!
[02:44] <ckarini> Video Driver: OpenGL
[02:45] <ckarini> Initializing OpenGL...
[02:45] <ckarini> Your system is reporting that direct rendering is not available.  Please obtain an updated driver from your video card manufacturer.
[02:45] <ckarini> okay
[02:45] <nalioth> !pastebin
[02:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:45] <ckarini> i did
[02:45] <jrib> ckarini: does it work if you close all programs playing sound before entering that command?
[02:46] <ckarini> nope
[02:46] <ckarini> it did the same thing
[02:47] <jrib> k, lets read the README
[02:47] <ckarini> ok
[02:47] <jrib> oh I just read the bottom of your error
[02:47] <ckarini> yeah...
[02:47] <jrib> ckarini: what kind of video card do you have?
[02:48] <ckarini> i dont know.
[02:48] <jrib> ckarini: 'lspci'  put the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please
[02:49] <ckarini> wait, i put in lspci,
[02:49] <ckarini> what did i just do?
[02:49] <nalioth> did you get any return, ckarini ?
[02:49] <ckarini> yeah
[02:50] <nalioth> jrib: will probably have a question or want you to use a pastebin to display the results
[02:50] <jrib> great, now visit http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org .  Then copy and paste the output into the box on the web form and submit.  Give us the url when you are done
[02:51] <ckarini> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35505/
[02:53] <ckarini> what did that do?
[02:54] <jrib> I'm not familiar with intel video cards, let me search and see if I can find out
[02:54] <ckarini> k
[03:01] <jrib> ckarini: you have an  intel 82810 by the way
[03:03] <ckarini> okay
[03:03] <ckarini> so what can i do to get step mania working
[03:04] <jrib> well what we need to do is  get direct rendering on your intel 82810
[03:04] <ckarini> how?
[03:04] <jrib> once you do that, step mania should be working
[03:04] <jrib> I don't know, like I said, i am searching
[03:04] <ckarini> okay
[03:06] <jrib> 'glxinfo | grep rendering'
[03:07] <ckarini> do i put the grep rendering part in?
[03:08] <jrib> yes, everything between the ''
[03:08] <ckarini> okay
[03:08] <ckarini> it was pretty straight forward with that one.
[03:08] <ckarini> direct rendering: No
[03:08] <jrib> the | lets you send output from the first command as input to the second command.  The 'grep' command searches for words
[03:09] <ckarini> so now what do i do?
[03:09] <jrib> ckarini: try asking in #ubuntu how to enable direct rendering on your intel 82810 .  If I come across it before you find out, I'll let you know.  But stepmania should work after you get direict rendering enabled
[03:10] <ckarini> okay
[03:10] <ckarini> thanks alot
[03:18] <jrib> ckarini: 'apt-cache policy nvidia-glx libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-dri'
[03:21] <ckarini> that may have worked,
[03:21] <ckarini> it did somthing
[03:21] <ckarini> so assume, it did work, what do i do now?
[03:23] <ckarini> wait, what even was that?
[03:23] <jrib> that command just gathers information
[03:23] <ckarini> oh.
[03:23] <jrib> please pastebin the output
[03:23] <ckarini> okay
[03:23] <ckarini> dom@dom-desktop:~/Desktop/StepMania-3.9$ apt-cache policy nvidia-glx libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-dri
[03:23] <ckarini> nvidia-glx:
[03:23] <ckarini>   Installed: (none)
[03:23] <ckarini>   Candidate: 1.0.8776+2.6.15.12-1
[03:23] <ckarini>   Version table:
[03:23] <ckarini>      1.0.8776+2.6.15.12-1 0
[03:23] <ckarini>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages
[03:23] <ckarini>      1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-1 0
[03:23] <ckarini>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/restricted Packages
[03:23] <ckarini> libgl1-mesa-dri:
[03:23] <ckarini>   Installed: 6.4.1-0ubuntu8
[03:23] <ckarini>   Candidate: 6.4.1-0ubuntu8
[03:23] <ckarini>   Version table:
[03:23] <ckarini>  *** 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 0
[03:24] <ckarini>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[03:24] <ckarini>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[03:24] <ckarini> libgl1-mesa-dri:
[03:24] <ckarini>   Installed: 6.4.1-0ubuntu8
[03:24] <ckarini>   Candidate: 6.4.1-0ubuntu8
[03:24] <ckarini>   Version table:
[03:24] <ckarini>  *** 6.4.1-0ubuntu8 0
[03:24] <ckarini>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[03:24] <ckarini>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[03:24] <ckarini> oops.
[03:24] <ckarini> well, should i do it there again anyways?
[03:24] <jrib> nah
[03:24] <jrib> ok, 'gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'  to pastebin please
[03:24] <ckarini> ok
[03:26] <ckarini> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35508/
[03:27] <jrib> hmmmm
[03:28] <nalioth> ckarini: this channel is NOT a pastebin
[03:28] <nalioth> ckarini: please visit paste.ubuntulinux.nl and paste your stuff THERE
[03:29] <nalioth> it makes a big difference in how you are helped, as pastebins can be accessed easily tomorrow or next week
[03:29] <nalioth> these channel logs are hard to parse after a day or so
[03:30] <ckarini> okay
[03:30] <ckarini> jrib: any ideas yet?
[03:30] <jrib> ckarini: well I don't reall know what to suggest.  The only reference I found that I thought might be useful was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232651 .  But your configuration seems fine.  I suggest you make a post on the forums or send an email to the ubuntu-users mailing list.  Someone with an intel themselves may be able to help better
[03:31] <ckarini> okay
[03:31] <jrib> ckarini: be sure to include your xorg.conf and the result of the 'glxinfo | grep direct' command.  As well as your video card
[03:32] <ckarini> okay
[03:32] <ckarini> well, in short, whats the main problem
[03:32] <jrib> the lack of direct rendering
[03:33] <ckarini> and when direct rendering is enabled, i can install it?
[03:34] <jrib> stepmania is "installed" I guess.  Running that "stepmania" file is trying to run stepmania
[03:34] <ckarini> oh,
[03:35] <jrib> you should see a "stepmania" file inside the folder on your desktop.  Once you get it working, you can just double click that.  For now though, I recommend you try './stepmania' after 'cd ~/Desktop/StepMania-3.9'.  That way you get useful error output
[03:35] <ckarini> so, if direct rendering is on, the program will run?
[03:35] <jrib> well yes, I assume so
[03:36] <ckarini> because i have the program icon and everything, but when i click on it, it loads, then just goes right back to the desktop
[03:36] <jrib> yeah, it's the lack of direct rendering that causes that
[03:36] <ckarini> oh, so i have to try to find out how to enable direct rendering?
[03:36] <jrib> exactly
[03:37] <ckarini> okay.
[03:38] <ckarini> look at this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=277065
[03:38] <jrib> ckarini: ubuntuforums.org and https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users are two possibilities for reaching more people than on irc
[03:38] <ckarini> does that help?
[03:38] <jrib> ckarini: no, that is for nvidia
[03:39] <ckarini> oh.
[03:39] <jrib> nvidia is a different kind of video card
[03:40] <ckarini> what about
[03:40] <ckarini> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Direct_rendering_on_Intel_Extreme_Graphics_(855GM)_chipsets
[03:42] <ckarini> does that one help at all?
[03:42] <jrib> it mentions something but I would not rely on it without corroboration from a different source
[03:43] <jrib> "The VideoRam option is very critical. The chip..."  but the person on ubuntuforums did not have that line
[03:43] <ckarini> oh, well, should we try it yet, or not,
[03:43] <jrib> I think it would be better if you found someone that could tell you something that would work for sure
[03:43] <jrib> If we mess up, you will be without a gui
[03:44] <ckarini> and thats not good.
[03:45] <jrib> hmmm
[03:45] <ckarini> now wait,
[03:45] <ckarini> look at this http://www.stepmania.com/wiki/Video_Card_Compatibility
[03:45] <jrib> I just checked the ubuntu person's xorg.conf and he has the videoram line as well
[03:45] <jrib> yes, I saw that
[03:45] <jrib> (you don't have the videoram line)
[03:46] <ckarini> oh.
[03:46] <ckarini> so whats the videoram line
[03:46] <jrib> so that's looking more and more like it be the problem
[03:47] <jrib> ckarini: type  ctrl-f in your browser and enter "videoram"
[03:47] <jrib> ignore my message in #ubuntu, wrong window
[03:48] <jrib> do you know how much ram you have?
[03:49] <ckarini> nope
[03:49] <jrib> 'free -m'
[03:49] <ckarini> wait, what browser?
[03:49] <jrib> firefox for example
[03:49] <ckarini> oh
[03:49] <jrib> on the gentoo wiki page or the forum post I linked to earlier
[03:50] <ckarini> wait, doesnt ctrl-f find stuff?
[03:50] <jrib> yes
[03:50] <jrib> you asked what the videoram line was
[03:51] <ckarini> then i just open firefox and type videoram?
[03:51] <ckarini> in a search thing
[03:51] <jrib> do you have the gentoo wiki page opened that you linked me to?
[03:51] <ckarini> no
[03:52] <jrib> ok, nevermind, it isn't important
[03:52] <ckarini> okay.
[03:52] <jrib> ckarini: what does 'free -m' say?
[03:53] <ckarini>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[03:53] <ckarini> Mem:           312        308          3          0          4         80
[03:53] <ckarini> -/+ buffers/cache:        223         89
[03:53] <ckarini> Swap:          619         64        554
[03:53] <ckarini> dom@dom-desktop:~$
[03:53] <jrib> ok you have 312mb ram
[03:54] <jrib> we should allocate some of that to the video card
[03:55] <jrib> ckarini: would you like to try?
[04:27] <ckarini> yeah
[04:27] <ckarini> sorry it took so long
[04:27] <ckarini> wait, is it safe enough?
[04:31] <ckarini> hey jrib, what do i do
[04:32] <jrib> well
[04:32] <jrib> I can explain what to do in case it doesn't work
[04:32] <ckarini> okay
[04:32] <jrib> ok here is what we are basically going to do:
[04:32] <jrib> 1. backup xorg.conf
[04:32] <jrib> 2. edit xorg.conf and save changes
[04:33] <jrib> 3. restart X
[04:33] <jrib> X is the gui stuff
[04:33] <ckarini> okay
[04:33] <jrib> now when you restart X, if we mess up, it may fail to start
[04:33] <ckarini> so i put all that in the terminal?
[04:33] <jrib> no that's just my explanation, I will give you the commands after I explain what to do in case it doens't work
[04:34] <ckarini> okay, so if it doesnt work, i can fix it, right?
[04:34] <jrib> ok, ctrl-alt-f1 brings you to a tty (a terminal) and ctrl-alt-f7 brings you back to the current "gui" display you have.  Try pressing ctrl-alt-f1 now to and then press ctrl-alt-f7 to get back
[04:34] <jrib> ckarini: yes
[04:35] <ckarini> uh......
[04:35] <ckarini> yeah
[04:35] <jrib> ckarini: ok, you saw some login window, once you login there you would get to a terminal.  Just like where you were entering commands before
[04:35] <ckarini> okay
[04:36] <jrib> ok write this down on a piece of papaer, remember capitalization is important:
[04:36] <ckarini> yeah
[04:36] <ckarini> alright
[04:36] <ckarini> ready
[04:36] <jrib> 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf'  do not execute this now.  This is for restoring the backup in case something goes wrong later
[04:38] <ckarini> oaky
[04:38] <jrib> so if something went wrong, you would hit ctrl-alt-f1, login, and enter that command.  Then you would restart X, with:  'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart'
[04:39] <ckarini> okay
[04:39] <jrib> ok, that should get you back to your current configuration.  Now lets edit your current one
[04:39] <ckarini> hold on a minute
[04:42] <JVH> I don't want to interupt, but when time permits, I could use a little help.
[04:42] <jrib> JVH: what's the question?
[04:43] <JVH> I have installed Ubuntu server. I need to access routers and access point that use a web based config screens.
[04:43] <JVH> I can't find a browser anywhere in the system.
[04:44] <ckarini> okay
[04:44] <ckarini> so what am i doing
[04:44] <jrib> JVH: maybe  http://shon.org/blog/?p=22 ?  If you want, you can install X and have a gui with more choices.  Also, links2 is a good command line web browser, better than lynx that you could try
[04:45] <jrib> ckarini: create the backup:  'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[04:45] <ckarini> in the terminal?
[04:45] <jrib> ckarini: right
[04:45] <ckarini> okay
[04:46] <ckarini> okay, i did that
[04:46] <jrib> ckarini: 'gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[04:46] <JVH> I am brand new to Linux, I thought lynx was a test only browser?
[04:47] <jrib> JVH: you can browse the web with it if you want
[04:47] <ckarini> okay, i did that
[04:48] <JVH> ok I will give it a try, thought maybe mozilla, netscape, firefox was hidden somewhere in there.
[04:48] <jrib> JVH: you can isntall them if you want.  But you will need X to run them in
[04:49] <jrib> JVH: do you want a gui environment on the server?
[04:49] <ckarini> okay, it gave me some text file
[04:49] <jrib> ckarini: ok please go to line 92, it should say: Identifier"Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] "
[04:49] <JVH> Only if I need one. I am attempting to build an Asterisk PBX server.
[04:50] <jrib> JVH: k, my suggestion would be to try that suggestion about lynx on that blog.  If that doesn't work, try installing links2 (sudo apt-get install links2) and using that
[04:51] <ckarini> wait, i dont get it.
[04:51] <jrib> ckarini: right now you have http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35508/ in your editor correct?
[04:52] <ckarini> yeah
[04:52] <jrib> ok, scroll down to the part that looks like (it starts on line 91):
[04:52] <JVH> What would be the command to install a gui? Like the desktop ubuntu has. Is that gnome?
[04:52] <jrib> 091. Section "Device"
[04:52] <jrib> 092. 	Identifier	"Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] "
[04:52] <jrib> 093. 	Driver		"i810"
[04:52] <jrib> 094. 	BusID		"PCI:0:1:0"
[04:52] <ckarini> okay
[04:53] <ckarini> wait, i dont think it looks like that
[04:53] <jrib> JVH: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will give you it all.  xubuntu-desktop and kubutnu-desktop are other options using xfce and kde, respectively.  You can also have lighter environments like fluxbox, openbox, etc
[04:53] <jrib> ckarini: that is what you pasted before
[04:54] <jrib> except where you see inverted I's, you should see tabs in your editor
[04:54] <jrib> and no line numbers
[04:54] <JVH> ok I will give it a try thanks jrib.
[04:54] <jrib> JVH: np
[04:54] <ckarini> yeah
[04:54] <jrib> ckarini: ok, you found it?
[04:54] <ckarini> but i cant find that one part
[04:55] <jrib> be more specific
[04:55] <jrib> press ctrl-f and enter i810, you should be there after a few hits
[04:55] <ckarini> oh wait, i round it
[04:55] <jrib> ok
[04:55] <ckarini> found it
[04:55] <ckarini> now what
[04:56] <jrib> now put a new line after   094. BusID"PCI:0:1:0"    that says:
[04:56] <jrib>        VideoRam        16384
[04:56] <ckarini> okay did it
[04:56] <jrib> that will give you 16 mb of video ram, I don't know if that is optimal for you or not, but you can explore later
[04:57] <jrib> 1024*16=16384 by the way
[04:57] <ckarini> okay, so what do i do with that
[04:57] <jrib> ok save it and then please pastebin what it looks like now
[04:58] <ckarini> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35516/
[04:59] <jrib> ckarini: ok, indent the line that you added so it matches with the others, just press TAB at the beginning of the line
[04:59] <jrib> I don't think it matters but just in case
[04:59] <ckarini> okay
[05:00] <ckarini> save it again?
[05:00] <jrib> yes
[05:00] <ckarini> k, now what
[05:00] <jrib> now we part and hopefully you will be back soon
[05:00] <jrib> save anything you are working on
[05:00] <ckarini> wait, what?
[05:01] <ckarini> so, your going, or, what
[05:01] <jrib> I am about to give you the command to restart X
[05:01] <ckarini> oh
[05:01] <jrib> that will close all your programs
[05:01] <ckarini> oh
[05:02] <jrib> ok, you know what to do in case it fails?  Worst case scenario, put in a live cd and visit #ubuntu again
[05:02] <ckarini> yeah
[05:02] <jrib> ctrl-alt-backspace   will restart X
[05:02] <ckarini> okay
[05:02] <ckarini> so when do i do that
[05:02] <jrib> now
[05:03] <ckarini> then what do i do after that
[05:03] <jrib> join me here again, or just try stepmania and see if it works
[05:03] <ckarini> okay,
[05:07] <jrib> 'glxinfo | grep direct'
[05:07] <ckarini> okay so it didnt work
[05:07] <ckarini> still no direct rendering
[05:08] <jrib> check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure the changes are there
[05:09] <ckarini> permission denied
[05:09] <jrib> 'gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' is the command.  gedit is a text editor and /etc/X11/xorg.conf is a text file
[05:10] <ckarini> yeah, it had the video thing on it
[05:10] <jrib> idk then
[05:10] <ckarini> oh
[05:10] <jrib> try the forums and mailing list
[05:11] <ckarini> okay
[05:11] <jrib> or #ubuntu again
[05:11] <ckarini> thanks for all your help
[05:11] <jrib> maybe someone new knows
[05:11] <jrib> ckarini: n, hope you get it
[05:11] <jrib> n = no problem
[05:11] <ckarini> thanks
[05:11] <ckarini> alright
[05:11] <ckarini> ill see ya later
[05:11] <jrib> bye
[05:11] <ckarini> maybe
[05:11] <ckarini> see ya
[05:43] <unix_infidel> hey guys, wondering if the systems administration class went down on the 2nd or 3rd.
[05:43] <unix_infidel> I didnt see a lectururer posted at that time on the website, nor has a transcript been posted, so i was just curious.
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> unix_infidel: I'm not aware of one, but I'm not sure
[05:45] <unix_infidel> tonyyarusso: i was referring to the post on the wiki.
[05:45] <unix_infidel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> unix_infidel: I know what you meant - I didn't hear one happen.
[05:45] <unix_infidel> Personally, I think skipping 101 and going straight to Advanced Administration would be more beneficial :)
[05:45] <unix_infidel> tonyyarusso: thanks, I'll be looking for updates.
[05:46] <unix_infidel> Btw, nice lecture on gpg 101 a while back.
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> unix_infidel: Thanks.  (I finally _did_ get those transcripts up...)
[05:46] <unix_infidel> :p