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nixternalman, i am going through the handbook, restructuring it after the KDG & UDG..the content is loaded with :)05:16
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=== mdke mornings
robotgeekmorning mdke08:56
Burgundaviamorning mdke08:56
robotgeeki'm just about to go to bed.08:57
robotgeekhi Burgundavia :)08:57
robotgeekanyways, night all. and cya in about 10 days or so!08:58
mdkehave fun08:58
robotgeekthanks08:58
mdkempt: around?09:17
mptmdke, yo09:19
mdkeyo indeed.09:19
mptsorry09:19
mptmdke, Yes sir!09:19
mpt:-)09:20
mdkeeh?09:20
mptnm09:20
=== mdke nods
mdkeanyway. Still bugging you about topic based help. We need to try and get these categories sorted09:21
mptok09:21
mptshould I add comments to the wiki page?09:21
mptor mail the mailing list?09:21
mdkeeither. A tricky question seems to be what to do with the Gnome user guide09:21
mdkeor equivalents for Kubuntu09:21
mptThere is no good answer pre-Mallard09:22
mptbut then there never has been, TopicBasedHelp or not09:22
mpthmm09:22
mdkeright, but there's no point not using the material09:22
mdkeat the absolute worst we can fork it09:22
mdkeand turn specific sections that we want to use into documents, rather than using it all09:23
mptWell, it will always show up in search results09:23
mdkesome parts of it fit well with "documents, files and folders" in your categories09:23
mdkealso "customising settings"09:24
mdkempt: also, you can take a look at the sandbox implementation at branches/topic-based-help, if you like09:27
mptcool09:28
mptI saw some mention of a bzr repository09:28
mdkeRiddell was pushing it. I tried to download it but gave up after nothing happened in 30 minutes09:29
mptok09:29
mptI've reported various bugs that bzr's progress feedback isn't quite as good as it could be09:29
mdkeyes, it's appalling - I can understand that downloading the whole history will take a long time (although I didn't at the time), but it doesn't tell you anything, except this 1/4 ========= stuff09:30
Burgundaviabig repos take ages09:31
Burgundaviathe marketing one took 20 minutes09:31
mptUnfortunately that first part, the revision history, has no feedback at all09:33
=== mdke hugs svn
mptAt least, that's the case for a push, probably the same for a pull09:34
mptbug 6017109:34
UbugtuMalone bug 60171 in bzr "bzr push appears to do nothing for several minutes" [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6017109:34
Mithrandirmpt: it ought to be fairly trivial to first get an estimate of the size you need to pull and then use the progress bar against that.09:35
mptyes09:35
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mdkehi lloydinho_09:41
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Mithrandirif somebody has time to proofread the herd 1 announcement on http://err.no/tmp/herd-1.txt, that'd be good.09:49
mptmdke, commented on the wiki page09:50
mdkethanks09:50
mptMithrandir, my only suggestions would be (1) change "system or who" to "system, or anyone who" and (2) "as images" to "images"09:54
Mithrandirthere's not supposed to be a comma in the first one, is there?09:54
Mithrandirmpt: I rewrote the second bit a little.09:55
mptWithout the comma, one's brain spends a second or two trying to make a stable system itself be comfortable running into breakage09:55
mptactually, that's not true09:56
mptIt's the "anyone" that solves that problem09:56
mptThe comma makes the sentence, now with its extra "anyone", breathable :-)09:57
mdkempt: at some stage today I'll comment on your comments... got to run now, thanks10:04
lloydinho_oh, hey guys. Sorry I haven't been around much lately. University deadlines and all...10:09
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-ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#ubuntu-server] Ubuntu Server Discussions (development and support)01:07
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-doc: Ubuntu Documentation Team http://doc.ubuntu.com or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam | backlog at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | SVN - https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos | Please observe the Ubuntu CoC @ http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct | Next meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/MeetingAgenda | Ubuntu's docs in dead-tree format: http://www.lulu.com/ubuntu-doc
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mptHello lloydinho_01:23
mptLook at the mess we've started :-)01:24
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mpthttp://codex.gallery2.org/index.php/Codex:Reorganization -- card-sorting for categorization of help topics02:08
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Admiral_Chicagoi'm trying to edit this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FaqOnIrc to add this information https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade but the inter wiki linking isn't worknig02:20
Admiral_Chicagocan anyone help?02:20
mptAdmiral_Chicago, you could just use a normal link02:21
mpt[https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade link text] 02:21
Admiral_Chicagompt: i'm not too good with wikis, what is the formating [www] link right?02:21
Admiral_Chicagotext is the description?02:22
Admiral_Chicagonevermind i got it02:24
Admiral_Chicagothanks02:24
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=== mdke evenings
LaserJockhi mdke08:50
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nixternaldoc.ubuntu.com stopped building it seems on November 19th10:44
mdkecheck if there is an invalid document in one of the build targets10:53
mdkeif "make all" doesn't build, the cronjob for the relevant build will break10:54
nixternalroger10:58
nixternalthanks10:58
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