=== jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@c-65-96-188-198.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === sladen [i=paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Mithrandir [n=tfheen@vawad-xen1.err.no] has joined #ubuntu-doc === crimsun [n=crimsun@dargo.trilug.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc === enrico [n=enrico@debian/developer/enrico] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jenda [n=jenda@195.47.80.185.adsl.nextra.cz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [n=matt@85-210-195-200.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lionel [n=lionel@ip-61.net-82-216-103.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jeffsch [n=jeff@dhcp561-1-99.dsl.ucc-net.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === theCore [n=alex@modemcable229.181-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-128-96.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:16] man, i am going through the handbook, restructuring it after the KDG & UDG..the content is loaded with :) === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === motin [n=motin@c80-217-109-98.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-doc === hitcho [n=hitcho@lugbari/people/hitcho] has joined #ubuntu-doc === hitcho [n=hitcho@lugbari/people/hitcho] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Ciao] === robotgeek [n=robotgee@c-71-207-192-185.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robotgeek [n=robotgee@c-71-207-192-185.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke mornings [08:56] morning mdke [08:56] morning mdke [08:57] i'm just about to go to bed. [08:57] hi Burgundavia :) [08:58] anyways, night all. and cya in about 10 days or so! [08:58] have fun [08:58] thanks [09:17] mpt: around? [09:19] mdke, yo [09:19] yo indeed. [09:19] sorry [09:19] mdke, Yes sir! [09:20] :-) [09:20] eh? [09:20] nm === mdke nods [09:21] anyway. Still bugging you about topic based help. We need to try and get these categories sorted [09:21] ok [09:21] should I add comments to the wiki page? [09:21] or mail the mailing list? [09:21] either. A tricky question seems to be what to do with the Gnome user guide [09:21] or equivalents for Kubuntu [09:22] There is no good answer pre-Mallard [09:22] but then there never has been, TopicBasedHelp or not [09:22] hmm [09:22] right, but there's no point not using the material [09:22] at the absolute worst we can fork it [09:23] and turn specific sections that we want to use into documents, rather than using it all [09:23] Well, it will always show up in search results [09:23] some parts of it fit well with "documents, files and folders" in your categories [09:24] also "customising settings" [09:27] mpt: also, you can take a look at the sandbox implementation at branches/topic-based-help, if you like [09:28] cool [09:28] I saw some mention of a bzr repository [09:29] Riddell was pushing it. I tried to download it but gave up after nothing happened in 30 minutes [09:29] ok [09:29] I've reported various bugs that bzr's progress feedback isn't quite as good as it could be [09:30] yes, it's appalling - I can understand that downloading the whole history will take a long time (although I didn't at the time), but it doesn't tell you anything, except this 1/4 ========= stuff [09:31] big repos take ages [09:31] the marketing one took 20 minutes [09:33] Unfortunately that first part, the revision history, has no feedback at all === mdke hugs svn [09:34] At least, that's the case for a push, probably the same for a pull [09:34] bug 60171 [09:34] Malone bug 60171 in bzr "bzr push appears to do nothing for several minutes" [Low,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/60171 [09:35] mpt: it ought to be fairly trivial to first get an estimate of the size you need to pull and then use the progress bar against that. [09:35] yes === lloydinho_ [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:41] hi lloydinho_ === joachim-n [n=joachim@ACD6119C.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:49] if somebody has time to proofread the herd 1 announcement on http://err.no/tmp/herd-1.txt, that'd be good. [09:50] mdke, commented on the wiki page [09:50] thanks [09:54] Mithrandir, my only suggestions would be (1) change "system or who" to "system, or anyone who" and (2) "as images" to "images" [09:54] there's not supposed to be a comma in the first one, is there? [09:55] mpt: I rewrote the second bit a little. [09:55] Without the comma, one's brain spends a second or two trying to make a stable system itself be comfortable running into breakage [09:56] actually, that's not true [09:56] It's the "anyone" that solves that problem [09:57] The comma makes the sentence, now with its extra "anyone", breathable :-) [10:04] mpt: at some stage today I'll comment on your comments... got to run now, thanks [10:09] oh, hey guys. Sorry I haven't been around much lately. University deadlines and all... === dgold [n=aiden@dsl-51-63.dsl.netsource.ie] has joined #ubuntu-doc === willvdl [n=will@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === _froud_ [n=froud@dsl-242-191-132.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-doc.log [01:07] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#ubuntu-server] Ubuntu Server Discussions (development and support) === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Topic for #ubuntu-doc: Ubuntu Documentation Team http://doc.ubuntu.com or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam | backlog at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | SVN - https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos | Please observe the Ubuntu CoC @ http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct | Next meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/MeetingAgenda | Ubuntu's docs in dead-tree format: http://www.lulu.com/ubuntu-doc === Topic (#ubuntu-doc): set by Seveas at Sun Nov 26 11:57:46 2006 === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-doc.log [01:23] Hello lloydinho_ [01:24] Look at the mess we've started :-) === billycina [n=billy@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-doc === XiXaQ [n=joerlend@88-191.dsl.freewave.no] has joined #Ubuntu-doc [02:08] http://codex.gallery2.org/index.php/Codex:Reorganization -- card-sorting for categorization of help topics === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:20] i'm trying to edit this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FaqOnIrc to add this information https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade but the inter wiki linking isn't worknig [02:20] can anyone help? [02:21] Admiral_Chicago, you could just use a normal link [02:21] [https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade link text] [02:21] mpt: i'm not too good with wikis, what is the formating [www] link right? [02:22] text is the description? [02:24] nevermind i got it [02:24] thanks === mihakriket [n=mihakrik@68-235-112-223.kntnny.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Mithrandir [n=tfheen@vawad-xen1.err.no] has joined #ubuntu-doc === newz2000 [n=matt@12-216-147-124.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === joachim-n [n=joachim@ACCACDAB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mihakriket [n=mihakrik@68-235-112-223.kntnny.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === XiXaQ [n=joerlend@112-191.dsl.freewave.no] has joined #Ubuntu-doc === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-62-245-161-117.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-doc === billycin1 [n=billy@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-doc === billycin1 [n=billy@217.205.109.249] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === billycina [n=billy@217.205.109.249] has joined #ubuntu-doc === billycina [n=billy@217.205.109.249] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === ompaul [n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke evenings [08:50] hi mdke === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rob [i=RobertSt@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ppp-123-95.25-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@host-84-9-178-162.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-128-96.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:44] doc.ubuntu.com stopped building it seems on November 19th [10:53] check if there is an invalid document in one of the build targets [10:54] if "make all" doesn't build, the cronjob for the relevant build will break [10:58] roger [10:58] thanks === joachim-n [n=joachim@ACD49B17.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc