=== zul [n=bob@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:51] BenC: ping got a couple of minutes [12:51] ? [12:52] zul: Just a little [12:52] sure so what should we do for the xen kernel? [12:52] since there isnt going to be paravirt-ops [12:53] zul: I'm thinking unless something amazing happens, you should probably keep linux-source-2.6.17 around to build xen with [12:53] yeah thats going to be a problem since udev doesnt like 2.6.17 under fiesty [12:53] we want to keep it in sync with one of our tarballs, but it looks like that wont be 2.6.20 [12:54] maybe we can talk to Keybuk about some edgy compatibility in udev [12:54] sure.. [12:54] i can try with 2.6.20 as well [12:54] BenC: ? [12:56] BenC, well let me try with 2.6.20 before we pull the trigger [12:56] Keybuk: Some people are saying that feisty udev + edgy kernel == badness [12:56] BenC: should work fine, unless they need ide-generic [12:56] more like udev initramfs-tools badness [12:56] edgy initramfs-tools? [12:57] maybe explains the problem [12:57] yeah spits out a warning [12:57] ah, hmm [12:57] actually udev requires 2.6.19 [12:57] in feisty [12:57] so initramfs-tools will refuse to make the initramfs [12:58] meh.. [12:58] ok ill try to head to 2.6.20 then [12:59] Keybuk: yeah, I've already had issues with trying to test xen updates, a bit of a pain [12:59] bald is what ill be then ;) [12:59] ajmitch: the pain is outweighed against the pain of trying to guess anything that could break in 2.6.17 [12:59] kids will do that to you :) [12:59] pfft, just buy more hardwar. [12:59] to hell with this virtualization stuff. [12:59] kylem: ENOMONEY [01:00] kylem: ditto ENOMONEY [01:00] just stop buying food [01:00] well redhat looks like its doing 2.6.19 maybe that could be a happy medium [01:00] GAH [01:00] 6391 N Jeannette Mcgra Jeannette check this. [01:00] kylem: yeah im fat enough [01:01] everytime i add to my .procmailrc, they change the damn thing [01:01] tbh, I'd be really unhappy supporting divergent kernels [01:01] e.g. if we go ahead and do the user-space binding in feisty [01:01] then udev will be relying on that [01:01] which won't work if you ran 2.6.19+xen === ajmitch would like to keep his system booting === Mithrandir [n=tfheen@vawad-xen1.err.no] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === crimsun [n=crimsun@dargo.trilug.org] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:01] I've already had enough issues with mdadm in feisty === thom [n=thom@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> anthony.freenode.net === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:01] ajmitch: don't run feisty === tepsipakki [n=tjaalton@replicant.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:02] your system will be failing to boot for most of the development process [01:02] I just don't reboot it very often [01:02] i wouldnt mind kvm but that eleminates alot of people from using virtualization === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:02] including me [01:02] and I sort of need to test some of these things on hardware, which means running feisty === kriebly [n=moho@171.64.15.230] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:02] xen in vmware doesn't go so fast === fs [i=fs@213.178.77.98] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:03] BenC: what about backporting paravirt? === maks_ [n=max@baikonur.stro.at] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:36] breezy kernel uploaded and accepted [01:38] zul, cool, thanks. === datten_ [n=datten@xdsl-81-173-145-183.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === datten_ is now known as datten === smi13y [n=danko_ko@83-131-66-24.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:46] sweet...a twisted sister christmas === xhaker [n=xkr@84.90.226.160] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:10] current feisty-alternate image presented odd behavior. I point my finger not only to debian-installer and the kernel until proof of the contrary. [03:11] If someone is still there and willing to hear say so [03:21] describe it === smi13y [n=danko_ko@83-131-66-24.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] [03:55] xhaker: I think BenC wants to know what was odd [03:55] BenC, sorry I was filling a bug report about it. You can read it here. I assigned it to Colin Watson. But you should see it. since it is kernel related also [03:55] https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/74592 [03:55] lifeless, ;) [03:56] you shouldn't assign it till it's confirmed [03:56] BenC, I didn't realize. I was trying to get colin's attention though. [03:57] ok, none of that is a kernel bug [03:58] the hda->sda thing is because we are switching from ide to ata modules..ata uses the scsi subsystem [03:59] xhaker: Some of those issues may be know, so you may want to search debian-installer reports [03:59] BenC, my hard drive isn't scsi? :( joke [04:01] I don't think there are reports of these. === mdz [n=mdz@cpe-76-173-8-128.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.225.217] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:09] BenC: ping [05:10] AnAnt: yo [05:10] BenC: I am using Edgy, and I found out that it doesn't support SD cards [05:10] AnAnt: That's correct [05:10] BenC: although in dapper it did [05:10] are you sure? [05:11] BenC: well, let me correct this [05:11] while Edgy was still beta, I used Dapper's kernel [05:11] but I applied a 2 line patch to support > 1GB cards [05:12] and some colleage lent me his SD and I used it with that kernel (which was only patched to support >1GB cards) and it worked [05:12] I will try it again later today to make sure though [05:12] as I still have that kernel here === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:13] BenC: I have a SD card - or at least its ~ that form factor :) and it worked on dapper, edgy and fisty [05:15] what's ~ ? [05:15] around/about [05:15] its a sdcard slot, but it may be a less-proprietary card is what I mean [05:16] oh [05:16] BenC: btw, the SD card was a Transcend SD card [05:17] AnAnt: Are you using it in the same type hardware slot? [05:17] the card isn't as important as the hardware you are reading it with [05:17] BenC: yeah, that TI slot [05:17] BenC: in my laptop [05:17] using the mmc driver? [05:17] BenC: is mine relevant, I can give details [05:17] Texas Instruments PCI6411, PCI6421, PCI6611, PCI6621, PCI7411, PCI7421, PCI7611, PCI7621 Secure Digital (SD) Controller [05:18] BenC: well, dunno which driver I use, it auto-detected [05:18] lifeless: Is it usb, or mmc? [05:18] BenC: I recall there was another module with mmc that is loaded [05:19] AnAnt: Yeah, check in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/mmc/ [05:19] BenC: there's sdhci there (in the dapper's kernel) [05:19] BenC: mmc [05:20] 02:01.2 Generic system peripheral [0805] : Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 17) 0805: 1180:0822 [05:20] lifeless: I think sdhci was loaded too, anyways, I'll try again when I go to work today [05:21] AnAnt: it neds to be if its going to work ;) [05:21] BenC: btw, is there any simple article about the difference between CONFIG_PREEMPT, and CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY ? [05:22] BenC: also sometimes I get a message saying something about "underrun", what's that ? [05:22] AnAnt: voluntary is where preempt is done when the kernel calls yield() [05:22] PREEMPT is real preemptibility [05:23] BenC: well, I followed the thread about PREEMPT in devel, I don't care about sound, but I run simulations, and CONFIG_PREEMPT in dapper made them fast indeed [05:23] BenC: but I'm not sure if VOLUNTARY in edgy made it slower [05:23] AnAnt: Then the lowlatency kernel is what you'll want [05:23] seems I got to test it [05:23] BenC: ok, thanks [05:24] does the "underrun" have to do with the voluntary thing ? [05:32] ? [05:32] BenC: does the "underrun" have to do with the voluntary thing ? [05:42] probably [05:42] thanks [05:42] oh, what's the sky2 bug? is it skype related? [05:43] "sky2 hardware hung" ? === rikai [n=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:39] Subject: More ARM binutils fuckage [06:40] I love it === dade` [n=dade@nectarine/admin/dade] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure_ [n=lure@BSN-77-152-53.dsl.siol.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === luka74 [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ph8 [i=henri@rigel.orion-hosting.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rikai_ [n=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rikai_ is now known as rikai === Keybuk [n=scott@quest.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === calavera [n=calavera@195.Red-80-26-32.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-kernel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Topic for #ubuntu-kernel: Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryKernel | 2.6.19-7.10 uploaded - DIE BEAR, DIE. Use it, but there are still a few missing modules. === Topic (#ubuntu-kernel): set by BenC at Wed Nov 29 02:08:33 2006 === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === AnAnt [n=anant@81.10.9.182] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:29] BenC: ok, I just tested it [02:30] BenC: ping [02:30] BenC: 2.6.15 kernel does support SD card [02:30] BenC: I got this from dmesg: mmcblk0: mmc2:b368 SDC 975360KiB === datten_ [n=datten@xdsl-81-173-150-69.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === AnAnt [n=anant@81.10.9.182] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:36] BenC: I'm using 2.6.17 kernel, now, it did detect the SD card too [02:37] BenC: but it gave some errors in dmes [02:37] BenC: but it gave some errors in dmesg === datten_ is now known as datten === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:50] heylo === chuck_ [n=bob@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul_ is now known as zul === Mithrandir [n=tfheen@vawad-xen1.err.no] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:52] is there no more ppc kernels? === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:38] BenC: ping when you get a second can i bounce an idea off you? [03:41] zul: Sure [03:42] its xen related so it might drive you crazy [03:42] run now [03:43] someone needs to rename xen, it's pronunciation is a misnomer [03:44] lol. [03:44] like you-are-going-to-make-me-pull-my-hair-out-and-shoot-myself-with-a-gun? [03:45] BenC: you clearly don't understand it, then. :-P === Mithrandir hides. [03:45] zul: We can call it crap for short [03:45] heh.. [03:45] Mithrandir: I must not be in the correct state of mind then :) [03:45] or yagtmepmyhoasmwag [04:07] kylem: ping [04:08] yo [04:09] just making some coffee, be back in a sec [04:11] k [04:12] do you have the patch for CVE-2006-4572 for dapper? [04:12] no, not without an abi change, i'm working on a better fix now. [04:12] ok can you pass it along when you are done for breezy? [04:12] sure. [04:13] thanks, you are the best! [04:14] ill owe you a beer === kylem remembers those giant beers at the black angus and shudder.s [04:15] mmm...black angus [04:15] yeah more than enough to get my tipsey [04:16] glad I checked that...I didn't hit the 'g' key well enough and almost typed it as "mmm...black anus" [04:16] lol [04:47] zul: Oh, i meant to tell you, akpm said Andi still plans a 2.6.20 merge for paravirt-ops [04:48] thank god [04:48] so we should be ok? === AnAnt [n=anant@81.10.9.182] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:16] BenC: ping [05:23] AnAnt: pong === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:54] BenC: yeah, you got what I said about SD ? [05:55] AnAnt: yeah [05:55] BenC: I forgot to tell you that I tried a 2 GB SD but it didn't work [05:55] will try again some day I hope [05:55] one day I'll mail you the details (the errors from dmesg, and the 2GB SD & so) === rikai [n=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pmjdebruijn [n=pmjdebru@pmjdebruijn.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:33] sigh. having a testcase for some of these CVEs would really be nice. [06:34] kylem: Sucks when most of them are "in theory" [06:34] but that one you are working seems like it could be tested with proper packets [06:35] I don't know enough about ipv6 packets to write one up for you though :) [06:36] me either === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === calavera [n=calavera@195.Red-80-26-32.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:22] kylem: take a look at packit? === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:55] kylem: ping got the patch yet? [08:55] sort of, i've sent it to patrick for reviwew. [08:56] ok cool === ivoks [n=ivoks@36-204.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rikai_ [n=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure_ [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:33] bcollins@huffy:~$ uptime [11:33] 17:32:22 up 1 min, 1 user, load average: 0.36, 0.17, 0.06 [11:33] bcollins@huffy:~$ grep ata /proc/modules [11:33] bcollins@huffy:~$ grep ata /proc/ioports [11:33] 01f0-01f7 : libata [11:33] bcollins@huffy:~$ dmesg | grep libata [11:33] bcollins@huffy:~$ [11:33] I'd like to know how the fuck that can happen [11:50] Hmm...the problem seems to come from a PCI quirk, but I'm not sure why it is triggering [11:50] still doesn't make sense because that quirk should grab 0x170 too, and it doesn't [11:51] oh wait, I see it === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-097-138.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel