[12:35] <Keybuk>  2 files changed, 232 insertions(+), 619 deletions(-)
[12:35] <Keybuk> muahaha
[12:36] <_ion> :-)
[10:38] <Malte> can someone read what i am typing?
[10:56] <_ion> Nope.
[10:56] <_erebos> hello, someone available for a question? - maybe i found a bug.
[11:25] <_ion> Well, you've already asked two questions. Feel free to ask more. :-)
[11:28] <_erebos> when starting a job there is a message stating the process id (eg 13788) but when ich ckeck with "ps -ef" i see that the PID of that job actually is the one stated incremented by 1 (13789) ... 
[11:29] <_ion> The first guess that comes to mind is that it forked.
[11:29] <_erebos> that's why i think that "stop <job>" doesn't work because the PID is wrong ... the process is never killed
[11:30] <_ion> IIRC upstart doesn't know how to find the pid of a forked process just yet (please correct me if i'm wrong).
[11:30] <_erebos> forked ... well i have to look it up (i am from germany and new to linux)
[11:31] <Keybuk> _ion: that's correct
[11:31] <_erebos> oh well ... maybe u mean that the program (in my case proftpd) is started by upstart and then starts a subprocess, am i right
[11:31] <Keybuk> it's a planned feature; but for now, processes must remain the foreground to be supervised
[11:31] <_erebos> kk
[11:32] <Keybuk> (this is true of other init systems as well)
[11:32] <_erebos> then i#ll wait for future releases ...
[11:32] <_ion> erebos: Look at the program's man page, there might be a switch for not forking.
[11:32] <Keybuk> you can start proftpd with the -n switch
[11:32] <_erebos> kk thx ... i'll try that ...
[11:32] <Keybuk> respawn /usr/sbin/proftpd -n
[11:35] <_erebos> worked .. :) thx
[03:17] <_erebos> is there a list of yet  recognized events?
[03:39] <_erebos> okay ... according to the code there are currently NO other events than the 5 basic events ... :(
[03:45] <Keybuk> make up your own
[03:45] <Keybuk> initctl emit EVENT-NAME
[04:05] <_erebos> worked ... :) but you meant initctl trigger EVENT-NAME
[04:06] <Keybuk> depends on the version of upstart
[04:07] <_erebos> kk ... i have 0.27 and you are probably ahead with 0.30+ ;)
[04:07] <Keybuk> yes
[07:36] <treepio> Anyone got a great guilde for a minimal working system?. I want to make it but using upstart instead of normal sysvinit