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nixternalheh, i blogged about the Handbook, and said that is was raw, in a draft stage, and no proofreading had been done or is not in order until all of the content is there02:26
nixternalthe first reply. spelling mistake :\02:27
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LaserJockhehe02:29
LaserJockthat's rather funny02:29
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nixternalfigures you would find that funny03:19
nixternalim sittin' in class, and the teacher is a GTK+ freak, and actually "bah'd" KDE03:19
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rockprincessgood morning everyone!09:42
Kamping_Kaiserhi :)09:42
rockprincesshello Kamping_Kaiser.....it's probably late afternoon at yours right now, is it?!09:42
Kamping_Kaisertechnically evening :)09:42
rockprincesshehe ok ;)09:43
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rockprincessouch! didn't your mom tell you to use sunmilk? ;)09:43
Kamping_Kaiserheh. we cant reach the sun to milk it here :\09:44
Kamping_Kaiserwe only get the hot, you guys are close enough to reach :P09:44
Kamping_Kaiser*its you09:44
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rockprincessawww09:45
juliuxmorning09:45
rockprincessgood morning Juliux!09:45
juliuxhey rockprincess09:45
Kamping_Kaiserhey :)09:45
rockprincessKamping_Kaiser: but you do have a bit of shadow too, do you?!09:46
Kamping_Kaiserrockprincess, only if you live close to uluru ;)09:46
rockprincessKamping_Kaiser: and where abouts in australia are you living?09:46
Kamping_Kaiserrockprincess, a place called the adelaide hills, in south australia09:47
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rockprincessahhh adelaide i've heard of that before!09:47
Kamping_Kaiser:)09:47
Kamping_Kaiser*curses super slow interweb*09:47
Kamping_Kaiseri want to link you to a googlemaps map09:48
Kamping_Kaiserits taking a zillino years to work09:48
Kamping_Kaiserrockprincess, http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Blundy+Way,+Littlehampton,+SA+5250,+Australia&sll=-35.050769,138.86296&sspn=0.00592,0.010064&ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=-35.050771,138.86296&spn=0.00592,0.013561&om=1&iwloc=addr09:49
Kamping_Kaiserhm. that will give a map. just hit satalite for a view09:49
rockprincessahhh now i know where you live :)09:50
Kamping_Kaiser:)09:50
rockprincessso you live by the coast?09:51
Kamping_Kaiserrockprincess, about an 45 min/ 1hours drive (so yes)09:51
Kamping_Kaiserrockprincess, i walked this beach twice yesterday http://maps.google.com/maps?q=S+34%C3%82%C2%B0+43',+E+139%C3%82%C2%B0+2'&hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=13&ll=-35.000472,138.515968&spn=0.103212,0.21698&t=k&om=1&iwloc=addr09:51
Kamping_Kaiserhence my burn :)09:51
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Kamping_Kaiseror would, iv i hadnt lost it09:53
rockprincessace, i've just tried to find googlemaps of where i live.....but it seems like it doesn't work properly...09:54
Kamping_Kaiserheh.09:54
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mhzmoin all!09:55
Kamping_Kaiserhey mhz :)09:55
Kamping_Kaiserrockprincess, http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=austria&ie=UTF8&z=6&om=1 close enough ;)09:55
mhzhi there Kamping_Kaiser09:56
Kamping_Kaiser:)09:56
Kamping_Kaiserhow are you? (havent seen you for a while)09:56
rockprincessKamping_Kaiser: you call that close enough??? that's not even close to being close ;))) haha09:58
mhzyeah, been crazy, looking for a job, and the one I ended up with, demands a lot of attention and time09:58
Kamping_Kaiserlol.09:58
Kamping_Kaiserrockprincess, it cant be hard to find from tehre :)09:58
Kamping_Kaisermhz, ah right. you got a break from work for hols now, or  just got some spare time today?09:59
rockprincesskamping_kaiser: i think i've found it, but only by zooming...so i have no proper link :(09:59
Kamping_Kaiserrockprincess, therse a link button on the top right09:59
rockprincesskamping_kaiser: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=de&q=sch6nbrunn+vienna,+austria&ie=UTF8&z=15&ll=48.182827,16.309848&spn=0.0192,0.038452&t=h&om=110:00
rockprincesskamping_kaiser: url to this site :D ha found it ;)10:00
Kamping_Kaiser:D10:00
rockprincesskamping_kaiser: haha it even looks like i'm living in a huge castle :D10:01
Kamping_Kaiserrockprincess, i was going to ask  ;)10:02
rockprincesskamping_kaiser: that's about where i live... http://www.schoenbrunn.at/en/site/publicdir/ .... well a 2 minutes walk from my home...10:02
Kamping_Kaisersweet10:03
rockprincesskamping_kaiser: right now they've set up this christmas market in front of the castle... http://www.schoenbrunn.at/en/site/publicdir/res/253686_60311_Baum_und_Schloss_xmas_50dpi.jpg10:03
rockprincessit looks magnificent :D10:03
Kamping_Kaiserawwwww. :( *wants*10:04
mhzKamping_Kaiser: nope, no rest for the evil ;) It's just that I have just called the night off from work (it's 06:00 AM here) and now I have to report everything I did, so a friend of mine lent me his keys to his internet cafe.10:04
Kamping_Kaisermhz, omg. thats harsh :S hope you can stand the work10:05
Kamping_Kaiserrockprincess, do you have stupid patent laws in austria/eu?10:07
juliuxKamping_Kaiser, softwarepatent not yet10:07
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juliuxKamping_Kaiser, but they are working on it:(10:08
rockprincesskamping_kaiser: not that i know of....10:08
Kamping_Kaiserjuliux, :(10:08
rockprincessyeah10:08
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juliuxKamping_Kaiser, and it is a very stupid patent syste, you can get a patent at the progessbar10:09
Kamping_Kaiserjuliux, of course... there are existing patents on double click (and such things)10:09
Kamping_Kaiserscrolling bar thigns (like the side of a gnome-terminal)10:10
juliuxyep very stupid10:10
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juliuxhm money from microsoft and other comapnies;)10:11
Kamping_Kaiserheh. MS is *still* paying 2mill $EU a day10:12
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stgrabermorning10:29
Kamping_Kaisergday10:30
Kamping_Kaiser*sht*, i'm 300 emails behind on debian-legal... i dont want to think about -devel :S10:31
stgraber:)10:31
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Kamping_Kaiser:P10:34
ajmitchyou try & keep up with them? why?10:38
Kamping_Kaiserajmitch, i try to keep in touch... but i let it slip quite a bit recently10:40
Kamping_Kaiser(in touch by observation only)10:41
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ajmitch-legal is a waste of time, I find10:41
Kamping_Kaiser-legal is amusing10:42
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willvdlhey all01:43
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juliuxhey willvdl01:46
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juliuxhi cbx3301:52
juliuxcbx33, keep on making good ubuntu sounds!01:52
cbx33heh01:52
cbx33you really think?01:53
juliuxyes01:53
juliuxi love your sounds01:53
cbx33awww thanky01:53
juliuxnormaly the first thing on a fresh installed ubuntu is to turn off all sounds01:53
cbx33can you comment on the blog :p01:53
juliuxbut the edgy start sound is still on01:53
cbx33thanks juliux01:59
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cbx33hey all02:35
cbx33anyone ever done vnc forwarding over http before?02:35
jsgotangcohey02:36
cbx33hi jsgotangco02:38
jsgotangcocbx33: hey dude how are you doing?02:43
cbx33yeh I'm good02:59
cbx33ping ogra02:59
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hamada99hi all03:36
hamada99anybody alive03:38
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bddebianHeya03:56
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kalannHi ogra, have you set up the moodle server yet? Karl from Sweden05:28
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cbx33hey ogra08:18
cbx33Hi LaserJock08:18
cbx33Hi everybody08:18
stgraberhi08:21
LaserJockhi cbx3308:23
stgraberLaserJock: do you have some minutes to review my package ? :)08:25
cbx33howz it going stgraber ;)08:26
LaserJockargg08:26
cbx33oooh what package you working on?08:26
LaserJockstgraber: what's the url?08:26
cbx33want me to have a look too?08:27
stgraberhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=361308:27
stgrabercbx33: fine, things are gently moving from the LUG point of view in my region, that's a good thing08:27
cbx33what standards version are we now?08:27
cbx33nice08:28
LaserJock3.7.208:28
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cbx33looks good on an initial pass08:30
LaserJockthat's about the most simple package I've seen08:31
LaserJockawesome08:32
stgraber:)08:32
stgrabernot complicated at all but quite useful in fact08:32
stgraberthe python code isn't more complicated than the package :)08:32
cbx33stgraber, does it follow the debian python policy?08:33
stgraberExcept that it isn't a bytecode package the rest is respected yes08:33
LaserJockI wonder if you even need the Provides:08:34
cbx33good good08:34
stgraberyes, I wondered that as well :)08:34
cbx33heh08:34
stgraberI read the somewhere but that's more for a module than a software I think08:34
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LaserJockyeah, basically you just need to dep on python08:35
cbx33yeh, or one that includes a module at any rate08:35
cbx33looks good08:35
cbx33gimme a min and I can advocate.....unless LaserJock  sees any other problem?08:35
LaserJockI want to check the Python Policy a little real quick08:36
cbx33can you send me a link to it....I wanted to check one thing too08:36
stgraberhttp://wiki.debian.org/DebianPython/NewPolicy08:37
cbx33thats the one08:37
stgraberand there is also a link at the top of it08:38
LaserJockI think you want to drop the Provides: and add XB-Python-Version: ${python:Versions}08:38
stgraberok, I'm doing it08:39
cbx33yes I agree08:40
stgraberAnything else you see ?08:40
LaserJockalso can you wrap the URLs in the description a little better08:40
LaserJockkeeping lines to 80 characters is a good idea08:40
LaserJockjust makes it more readable for synaptic, etc.08:40
stgraberany line number limitation ?08:40
stgraberif not I can put one URL/line08:40
LaserJockthat's what I would do08:40
cbx33indeed08:41
cbx33what about changelog?08:41
stgraberAnything wrong with it ?08:42
stgraberShould I add something ?08:42
cbx33just the long line08:42
stgraberok, let me cut it :)08:42
cbx33wondered if LaserJock  thought it a good idea to apply the same method there too08:42
LaserJockyeah08:43
cbx33;)08:43
LaserJockit's good to just bulletpoint the items08:43
cbx33indeed08:43
LaserJock* New version upstream08:43
cbx33 * this08:43
cbx33heh08:43
LaserJock  - change the default Pastebin08:43
cbx33couldn't have planned that better08:43
LaserJock - fix a bug with paste.ubuntu-nl.org08:44
LaserJock - add support of regexp08:44
stgraberok, changelog is fixed, anything else you see ?08:45
cbx33not at the moment08:45
stgraberok08:45
cbx33LaserJock, ?08:45
LaserJockhaha, it even works08:46
cbx33:p08:47
LaserJockalthough how do you tell it what pastebin to send to?08:47
cbx33you expected anything less ;)08:47
LaserJockstgraber: upload it to revu again08:47
stgraberLaserJock: that's in the man page ... :) echo "test" | pastebinit - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org08:47
LaserJockyou should make that configurable in the 0.7 release ;-)08:48
cbx33stgraber, a usage might be useful for the bin08:48
cbx33oh sorry08:48
cbx33i see it now08:48
cbx33:p08:48
stgrabercbx33: you got one if you put no params :)08:48
stgraberhehe :)08:48
cbx33heheh08:48
cbx33good job08:48
cbx33I'll advocate once on REVU08:49
stgraberit's uploaded so it will be shown in 5 minutes or so08:49
cbx33nice08:49
LaserJockhehe, when I run lintian  on the .deb I get:08:50
LaserJockW: pastebinit: extended-description-line-too-long08:50
stgraberstrange, I usually check the files with lintian ...08:50
cbx33hehe08:51
stgrabermaybe I didn't do that time :)08:51
cbx33hehehe08:51
LaserJockstgraber: I do a lot of reviewing by simply running lintian -i on the .dsc and .deb08:51
cbx33I check the lintian logs on REVU too ;)08:52
LaserJockusually people clean up the source ones08:52
LaserJockbut the .deb usually is revealing ;-)08:52
cbx33heh08:53
stgraberhmm, lintian is giving me some warnings here08:54
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LaserJockcbx33: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=370308:55
LaserJockstgraber: what kind of warnings?08:55
stgraberW: pastebinit: possible-unindented-list-in-extended-description08:55
stgraberW: pastebinit: latest-debian-changelog-entry-without-new-date08:55
LaserJockah, the second one is because the date/time are exactly the same for your 2 changelog entries08:57
cbx33heh08:57
LaserJockuse dch to create a new one08:57
cbx33ahh good old dch08:57
LaserJockto fix that in the future08:57
stgraberlol, I forgot to change it :)08:58
LaserJockstgraber: for the first one I think you can take out the - in front of each url in the description08:58
stgraberI'm uploading it09:00
stgraberlintian is happy now09:00
cbx33nice09:00
stgraberhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=370509:03
LaserJockok, I'm happy09:05
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Dheeraj_k is java slow in ubuntu?09:06
cbx33ping ogra09:06
LaserJockDheeraj_k: no more then in other Linux distros I don't think09:06
Dheeraj_kping cbx33 :p09:06
cbx33pong Dheeraj_k what can I do for you09:06
Dheeraj_kLaserJock:  it is taking more than 40 second to compile program like helloworld !09:07
Dheeraj_kbut when i compile the same program in windows it takes only 2-3 second09:08
Dheeraj_ki am using jdk of sun09:08
Dheeraj_kversion javac 1.5.0_0609:09
LaserJockI'm really not sure09:10
Dheeraj_kcbx33: do u have any idea about it?09:12
cbx33no sorry09:12
cbx33I'm a python man09:12
rockprincessDheerja_k: haven't noticed yet that Java is slow on ubuntu09:14
LaserJockstgraber: uploaded, it will now go in the NEW queue (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/+queue) for review by the archive admins09:23
stgraberok, thank you very much09:23
LaserJocknp, thanks for doing it09:23
LaserJockit's about the first thing I've sponsored that I'll actually use09:23
LaserJock;-)09:24
stgraber:)09:24
stgraberIt's really helpful when installed in the LTSP chroot09:24
stgraberif you have some problems on a thin client09:24
cbx33will it support pastebin.ca09:24
cbx33that is my fav as it's sooooo fast09:24
LaserJockyeah, once it gets in we can file bugs :-)09:25
cbx33heheh09:25
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stgraberactually pastebin.com is really really slow, pastebin.ca is quite fase, ubuntu-nl.org as well but they are working on it then I don't know how much time my soft will still work with it, and mine (paste.stgraber.org) should be quite fast as well (and not break the compatibility with pastebinit too often :))09:27
stgraberWoaaa !!!, Feisty has swiss french keyboard again !!! :)09:27
stgraberI had to patch all the Edgy isos to add the swiss-french keyboard (after someone thought that all swiss keyboard are the same :))09:28
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Dheeraj_1ubuntu is too slow for java i just switched back to windows :(09:33
rockprincessDheeraj_1 i had a similar problem, i couldn't get the JMF working on kubuntu, that's why i switched back to windows for java only...09:35
LaserJockseems odd09:35
LaserJockwe have lots of Java apps that run fine09:36
rockprincessyeah java apps do run fine....but i actually have problems with compiling the source code, so i think there must be an issue with the classpath...09:36
LaserJockcould be09:37
rockprincessi'm off for now...good night all!09:39
Dheeraj_1i have problem in compiling java code in ubuntu it slow down the pc and take long time to compile09:39
LaserJockDheeraj_1: you should try #ubuntu or perhaps http://ubuntuforums.org09:41
Dheeraj_1at the mov i am doing google to find the sollution09:42
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Dheeraj_1not only the compiling but java program too is very slow in ubuntu :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18323909:53
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cbx33where's edubuntugirl when you need her10:02
willvdlurk10:03
cbx33can anyone tell ogra when he next arrives...I'm sorry I have to go....10:04
cbx33and that we'll have to reschedule10:04
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JJAUAhi, what's the best format for a partition which is shared by windows and edubuntu? Fat32 or Ext2?10:06
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CyberT3I need help on how to connect to a wired encrypted network, my friend forced me to switch to linux, but I cant use network anymore. I used to use SecureW2....10:08
LaserJockJJAUA: Fat3210:09
LaserJockJJAUA: but make it a seperate partition from the root (/) one for Edubuntu10:10
LaserJockCyberT3: try #ubuntu, there are a lot more people there10:10
JJAUAthanks... what about mounting/connecting to networkdives with shared files?10:11
JJAUAor is it done with TCP/IP protocol?10:12
CyberT3LaserJock, too much crowd there to get help :(10:12
JJAUACyberT3. i saw your message in #ubuntu... i tried it too but was only able to connect to wireless network with WEP10:13
CyberT3ah10:15
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JJAUACyberT3 whatabout ext2/3 use with Ext2IFS ???10:17
CyberT3it doesnt make any sense :P10:17
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Burgworkhttp://plugment.net/2006/12/02/setting-up-an-edubuntu-thin-client-network-in-a-community-school/10:59
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willvdlBurgwork, cool story11:21
Burgworkindeecx11:21
Burgworkyou asked to join the -doc team11:22
Burgworkwe use membership in that team to indicate whether you have write access to the svn repo11:22
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