[02:26] <nixternal> heh, i blogged about the Handbook, and said that is was raw, in a draft stage, and no proofreading had been done or is not in order until all of the content is there
[02:27] <nixternal> the first reply. spelling mistake :\
[02:29] <LaserJock> hehe
[02:29] <LaserJock> that's rather funny
[03:19] <nixternal> figures you would find that funny
[03:19] <nixternal> im sittin' in class, and the teacher is a GTK+ freak, and actually "bah'd" KDE
[09:42] <rockprincess> good morning everyone!
[09:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi :)
[09:42] <rockprincess> hello Kamping_Kaiser.....it's probably late afternoon at yours right now, is it?!
[09:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> technically evening :)
[09:43] <rockprincess> hehe ok ;)
[09:43] <rockprincess> ouch! didn't your mom tell you to use sunmilk? ;)
[09:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh. we cant reach the sun to milk it here :\
[09:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> we only get the hot, you guys are close enough to reach :P
[09:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> *its you
[09:45] <rockprincess> awww
[09:45] <juliux> morning
[09:45] <rockprincess> good morning Juliux!
[09:45] <juliux> hey rockprincess
[09:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> hey :)
[09:46] <rockprincess> Kamping_Kaiser: but you do have a bit of shadow too, do you?!
[09:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> rockprincess, only if you live close to uluru ;)
[09:46] <rockprincess> Kamping_Kaiser: and where abouts in australia are you living?
[09:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> rockprincess, a place called the adelaide hills, in south australia
[09:47] <rockprincess> ahhh adelaide i've heard of that before!
[09:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[09:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> *curses super slow interweb*
[09:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> i want to link you to a googlemaps map
[09:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> its taking a zillino years to work
[09:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> rockprincess, http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Blundy+Way,+Littlehampton,+SA+5250,+Australia&sll=-35.050769,138.86296&sspn=0.00592,0.010064&ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=-35.050771,138.86296&spn=0.00592,0.013561&om=1&iwloc=addr
[09:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. that will give a map. just hit satalite for a view
[09:50] <rockprincess> ahhh now i know where you live :)
[09:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[09:51] <rockprincess> so you live by the coast?
[09:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> rockprincess, about an 45 min/ 1hours drive (so yes)
[09:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> rockprincess, i walked this beach twice yesterday http://maps.google.com/maps?q=S+34%C3%82%C2%B0+43',+E+139%C3%82%C2%B0+2'&hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=13&ll=-35.000472,138.515968&spn=0.103212,0.21698&t=k&om=1&iwloc=addr
[09:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> hence my burn :)
[09:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> or would, iv i hadnt lost it
[09:54] <rockprincess> ace, i've just tried to find googlemaps of where i live.....but it seems like it doesn't work properly...
[09:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh.
[09:55] <mhz> moin all!
[09:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> hey mhz :)
[09:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> rockprincess, http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=austria&ie=UTF8&z=6&om=1 close enough ;)
[09:56] <mhz> hi there Kamping_Kaiser
[09:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[09:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> how are you? (havent seen you for a while)
[09:58] <rockprincess> Kamping_Kaiser: you call that close enough??? that's not even close to being close ;))) haha
[09:58] <mhz> yeah, been crazy, looking for a job, and the one I ended up with, demands a lot of attention and time
[09:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol.
[09:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> rockprincess, it cant be hard to find from tehre :)
[09:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> mhz, ah right. you got a break from work for hols now, or  just got some spare time today?
[09:59] <rockprincess> kamping_kaiser: i think i've found it, but only by zooming...so i have no proper link :(
[09:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> rockprincess, therse a link button on the top right
[10:00] <rockprincess> kamping_kaiser: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=de&q=sch6nbrunn+vienna,+austria&ie=UTF8&z=15&ll=48.182827,16.309848&spn=0.0192,0.038452&t=h&om=1
[10:00] <rockprincess> kamping_kaiser: url to this site :D ha found it ;)
[10:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> :D
[10:01] <rockprincess> kamping_kaiser: haha it even looks like i'm living in a huge castle :D
[10:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> rockprincess, i was going to ask  ;)
[10:02] <rockprincess> kamping_kaiser: that's about where i live... http://www.schoenbrunn.at/en/site/publicdir/ .... well a 2 minutes walk from my home...
[10:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> sweet
[10:03] <rockprincess> kamping_kaiser: right now they've set up this christmas market in front of the castle... http://www.schoenbrunn.at/en/site/publicdir/res/253686_60311_Baum_und_Schloss_xmas_50dpi.jpg
[10:03] <rockprincess> it looks magnificent :D
[10:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> awwwww. :( *wants*
[10:04] <mhz> Kamping_Kaiser: nope, no rest for the evil ;) It's just that I have just called the night off from work (it's 06:00 AM here) and now I have to report everything I did, so a friend of mine lent me his keys to his internet cafe.
[10:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> mhz, omg. thats harsh :S hope you can stand the work
[10:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> rockprincess, do you have stupid patent laws in austria/eu?
[10:07] <juliux> Kamping_Kaiser, softwarepatent not yet
[10:08] <juliux> Kamping_Kaiser, but they are working on it:(
[10:08] <rockprincess> kamping_kaiser: not that i know of....
[10:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> juliux, :(
[10:08] <rockprincess> yeah
[10:09] <juliux> Kamping_Kaiser, and it is a very stupid patent syste, you can get a patent at the progessbar
[10:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> juliux, of course... there are existing patents on double click (and such things)
[10:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> scrolling bar thigns (like the side of a gnome-terminal)
[10:10] <juliux> yep very stupid
[10:11] <juliux> hm money from microsoft and other comapnies;)
[10:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh. MS is *still* paying 2mill $EU a day
[10:29] <stgraber> morning
[10:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> gday
[10:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> *sht*, i'm 300 emails behind on debian-legal... i dont want to think about -devel :S
[10:31] <stgraber> :)
[10:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> :P
[10:38] <ajmitch> you try & keep up with them? why?
[10:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> ajmitch, i try to keep in touch... but i let it slip quite a bit recently
[10:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> (in touch by observation only)
[10:41] <ajmitch> -legal is a waste of time, I find
[10:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> -legal is amusing
[01:43] <willvdl> hey all
[01:46] <juliux> hey willvdl
[01:52] <juliux> hi cbx33
[01:52] <juliux> cbx33, keep on making good ubuntu sounds!
[01:52] <cbx33> heh
[01:53] <cbx33> you really think?
[01:53] <juliux> yes
[01:53] <juliux> i love your sounds
[01:53] <cbx33> awww thanky
[01:53] <juliux> normaly the first thing on a fresh installed ubuntu is to turn off all sounds
[01:53] <cbx33> can you comment on the blog :p
[01:53] <juliux> but the edgy start sound is still on
[01:59] <cbx33> thanks juliux
[02:35] <cbx33> hey all
[02:35] <cbx33> anyone ever done vnc forwarding over http before?
[02:36] <jsgotangco> hey
[02:38] <cbx33> hi jsgotangco
[02:43] <jsgotangco> cbx33: hey dude how are you doing?
[02:59] <cbx33> yeh I'm good
[02:59] <cbx33> ping ogra
[03:36] <hamada99> hi all
[03:38] <hamada99> anybody alive
[03:56] <bddebian> Heya
[05:28] <kalann> Hi ogra, have you set up the moodle server yet? Karl from Sweden
[08:18] <cbx33> hey ogra
[08:18] <cbx33> Hi LaserJock
[08:18] <cbx33> Hi everybody
[08:21] <stgraber> hi
[08:23] <LaserJock> hi cbx33
[08:25] <stgraber> LaserJock: do you have some minutes to review my package ? :)
[08:26] <cbx33> howz it going stgraber ;)
[08:26] <LaserJock> argg
[08:26] <cbx33> oooh what package you working on?
[08:26] <LaserJock> stgraber: what's the url?
[08:27] <cbx33> want me to have a look too?
[08:27] <stgraber> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3613
[08:27] <stgraber> cbx33: fine, things are gently moving from the LUG point of view in my region, that's a good thing
[08:27] <cbx33> what standards version are we now?
[08:28] <cbx33> nice
[08:28] <LaserJock> 3.7.2
[08:30] <cbx33> looks good on an initial pass
[08:31] <LaserJock> that's about the most simple package I've seen
[08:32] <LaserJock> awesome
[08:32] <stgraber> :)
[08:32] <stgraber> not complicated at all but quite useful in fact
[08:32] <stgraber> the python code isn't more complicated than the package :)
[08:33] <cbx33> stgraber, does it follow the debian python policy?
[08:33] <stgraber> Except that it isn't a bytecode package the rest is respected yes
[08:34] <LaserJock> I wonder if you even need the Provides:
[08:34] <cbx33> good good
[08:34] <stgraber> yes, I wondered that as well :)
[08:34] <cbx33> heh
[08:34] <stgraber> I read the somewhere but that's more for a module than a software I think
[08:35] <LaserJock> yeah, basically you just need to dep on python
[08:35] <cbx33> yeh, or one that includes a module at any rate
[08:35] <cbx33> looks good
[08:35] <cbx33> gimme a min and I can advocate.....unless LaserJock  sees any other problem?
[08:36] <LaserJock> I want to check the Python Policy a little real quick
[08:36] <cbx33> can you send me a link to it....I wanted to check one thing too
[08:37] <stgraber> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPython/NewPolicy
[08:37] <cbx33> thats the one
[08:38] <stgraber> and there is also a link at the top of it
[08:38] <LaserJock> I think you want to drop the Provides: and add XB-Python-Version: ${python:Versions}
[08:39] <stgraber> ok, I'm doing it
[08:40] <cbx33> yes I agree
[08:40] <stgraber> Anything else you see ?
[08:40] <LaserJock> also can you wrap the URLs in the description a little better
[08:40] <LaserJock> keeping lines to 80 characters is a good idea
[08:40] <LaserJock> just makes it more readable for synaptic, etc.
[08:40] <stgraber> any line number limitation ?
[08:40] <stgraber> if not I can put one URL/line
[08:40] <LaserJock> that's what I would do
[08:41] <cbx33> indeed
[08:41] <cbx33> what about changelog?
[08:42] <stgraber> Anything wrong with it ?
[08:42] <stgraber> Should I add something ?
[08:42] <cbx33> just the long line
[08:42] <stgraber> ok, let me cut it :)
[08:42] <cbx33> wondered if LaserJock  thought it a good idea to apply the same method there too
[08:43] <LaserJock> yeah
[08:43] <cbx33> ;)
[08:43] <LaserJock> it's good to just bulletpoint the items
[08:43] <cbx33> indeed
[08:43] <LaserJock> * New version upstream
[08:43] <cbx33>  * this
[08:43] <cbx33> heh
[08:43] <LaserJock>   - change the default Pastebin
[08:43] <cbx33> couldn't have planned that better
[08:44] <LaserJock>  - fix a bug with paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:44] <LaserJock>  - add support of regexp
[08:45] <stgraber> ok, changelog is fixed, anything else you see ?
[08:45] <cbx33> not at the moment
[08:45] <stgraber> ok
[08:45] <cbx33> LaserJock, ?
[08:46] <LaserJock> haha, it even works
[08:47] <cbx33> :p
[08:47] <LaserJock> although how do you tell it what pastebin to send to?
[08:47] <cbx33> you expected anything less ;)
[08:47] <LaserJock> stgraber: upload it to revu again
[08:47] <stgraber> LaserJock: that's in the man page ... :) echo "test" | pastebinit - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:48] <LaserJock> you should make that configurable in the 0.7 release ;-)
[08:48] <cbx33> stgraber, a usage might be useful for the bin
[08:48] <cbx33> oh sorry
[08:48] <cbx33> i see it now
[08:48] <cbx33> :p
[08:48] <stgraber> cbx33: you got one if you put no params :)
[08:48] <stgraber> hehe :)
[08:48] <cbx33> heheh
[08:48] <cbx33> good job
[08:49] <cbx33> I'll advocate once on REVU
[08:49] <stgraber> it's uploaded so it will be shown in 5 minutes or so
[08:49] <cbx33> nice
[08:50] <LaserJock> hehe, when I run lintian  on the .deb I get:
[08:50] <LaserJock> W: pastebinit: extended-description-line-too-long
[08:50] <stgraber> strange, I usually check the files with lintian ...
[08:51] <cbx33> hehe
[08:51] <stgraber> maybe I didn't do that time :)
[08:51] <cbx33> hehehe
[08:51] <LaserJock> stgraber: I do a lot of reviewing by simply running lintian -i on the .dsc and .deb
[08:52] <cbx33> I check the lintian logs on REVU too ;)
[08:52] <LaserJock> usually people clean up the source ones
[08:52] <LaserJock> but the .deb usually is revealing ;-)
[08:53] <cbx33> heh
[08:54] <stgraber> hmm, lintian is giving me some warnings here
[08:55] <LaserJock> cbx33: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3703
[08:55] <LaserJock> stgraber: what kind of warnings?
[08:55] <stgraber> W: pastebinit: possible-unindented-list-in-extended-description
[08:55] <stgraber> W: pastebinit: latest-debian-changelog-entry-without-new-date
[08:57] <LaserJock> ah, the second one is because the date/time are exactly the same for your 2 changelog entries
[08:57] <cbx33> heh
[08:57] <LaserJock> use dch to create a new one
[08:57] <cbx33> ahh good old dch
[08:57] <LaserJock> to fix that in the future
[08:58] <stgraber> lol, I forgot to change it :)
[08:58] <LaserJock> stgraber: for the first one I think you can take out the - in front of each url in the description
[09:00] <stgraber> I'm uploading it
[09:00] <stgraber> lintian is happy now
[09:00] <cbx33> nice
[09:03] <stgraber> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3705
[09:05] <LaserJock> ok, I'm happy
[09:05] <cbx33> advocating
[09:06] <Dheeraj_k>  is java slow in ubuntu?
[09:06] <cbx33> ping ogra
[09:06] <LaserJock> Dheeraj_k: no more then in other Linux distros I don't think
[09:06] <Dheeraj_k> ping cbx33 :p
[09:06] <cbx33> pong Dheeraj_k what can I do for you
[09:07] <Dheeraj_k> LaserJock:  it is taking more than 40 second to compile program like helloworld !
[09:08] <Dheeraj_k> but when i compile the same program in windows it takes only 2-3 second
[09:08] <Dheeraj_k> i am using jdk of sun
[09:09] <Dheeraj_k> version javac 1.5.0_06
[09:10] <LaserJock> I'm really not sure
[09:12] <Dheeraj_k> cbx33: do u have any idea about it?
[09:12] <cbx33> no sorry
[09:12] <cbx33> I'm a python man
[09:14] <rockprincess> Dheerja_k: haven't noticed yet that Java is slow on ubuntu
[09:23] <LaserJock> stgraber: uploaded, it will now go in the NEW queue (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/+queue) for review by the archive admins
[09:23] <stgraber> ok, thank you very much
[09:23] <LaserJock> np, thanks for doing it
[09:23] <LaserJock> it's about the first thing I've sponsored that I'll actually use
[09:24] <LaserJock> ;-)
[09:24] <stgraber> :)
[09:24] <stgraber> It's really helpful when installed in the LTSP chroot
[09:24] <stgraber> if you have some problems on a thin client
[09:24] <cbx33> will it support pastebin.ca
[09:24] <cbx33> that is my fav as it's sooooo fast
[09:25] <LaserJock> yeah, once it gets in we can file bugs :-)
[09:25] <cbx33> heheh
[09:27] <stgraber> actually pastebin.com is really really slow, pastebin.ca is quite fase, ubuntu-nl.org as well but they are working on it then I don't know how much time my soft will still work with it, and mine (paste.stgraber.org) should be quite fast as well (and not break the compatibility with pastebinit too often :))
[09:27] <stgraber> Woaaa !!!, Feisty has swiss french keyboard again !!! :)
[09:28] <stgraber> I had to patch all the Edgy isos to add the swiss-french keyboard (after someone thought that all swiss keyboard are the same :))
[09:33] <Dheeraj_1> ubuntu is too slow for java i just switched back to windows :(
[09:35] <rockprincess> Dheeraj_1 i had a similar problem, i couldn't get the JMF working on kubuntu, that's why i switched back to windows for java only...
[09:35] <LaserJock> seems odd
[09:36] <LaserJock> we have lots of Java apps that run fine
[09:36] <rockprincess> yeah java apps do run fine....but i actually have problems with compiling the source code, so i think there must be an issue with the classpath...
[09:37] <LaserJock> could be
[09:39] <rockprincess> i'm off for now...good night all!
[09:39] <Dheeraj_1> i have problem in compiling java code in ubuntu it slow down the pc and take long time to compile
[09:41] <LaserJock> Dheeraj_1: you should try #ubuntu or perhaps http://ubuntuforums.org
[09:42] <Dheeraj_1> at the mov i am doing google to find the sollution
[09:53] <Dheeraj_1> not only the compiling but java program too is very slow in ubuntu :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183239
[10:02] <cbx33> where's edubuntugirl when you need her
[10:03] <willvdl> urk
[10:04] <cbx33> can anyone tell ogra when he next arrives...I'm sorry I have to go....
[10:04] <cbx33> and that we'll have to reschedule
[10:06] <JJAUA> hi, what's the best format for a partition which is shared by windows and edubuntu? Fat32 or Ext2?
[10:08] <CyberT3> I need help on how to connect to a wired encrypted network, my friend forced me to switch to linux, but I cant use network anymore. I used to use SecureW2....
[10:09] <LaserJock> JJAUA: Fat32
[10:10] <LaserJock> JJAUA: but make it a seperate partition from the root (/) one for Edubuntu
[10:10] <LaserJock> CyberT3: try #ubuntu, there are a lot more people there
[10:11] <JJAUA> thanks... what about mounting/connecting to networkdives with shared files?
[10:12] <JJAUA> or is it done with TCP/IP protocol?
[10:12] <CyberT3> LaserJock, too much crowd there to get help :(
[10:13] <JJAUA> CyberT3. i saw your message in #ubuntu... i tried it too but was only able to connect to wireless network with WEP
[10:15] <CyberT3> ah
[10:17] <JJAUA> CyberT3 whatabout ext2/3 use with Ext2IFS ???
[10:17] <CyberT3> it doesnt make any sense :P
[10:59] <Burgwork> http://plugment.net/2006/12/02/setting-up-an-edubuntu-thin-client-network-in-a-community-school/
[11:21] <willvdl> Burgwork, cool story
[11:21] <Burgwork> indeecx
[11:22] <Burgwork> you asked to join the -doc team
[11:22] <Burgwork> we use membership in that team to indicate whether you have write access to the svn repo