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fribuntuintelikey: Ok, I can confirm that. I have disabled "show encryption status" and the ?? disappeared.12:15
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alleeJucato: PATH is inherited and KDEDIRS (is not used by default).  To define env variables you can use ~/.kde/env/   (or alternatively to KDEDIRS edit /etc/kderc or use kiosktooll to set user specific settings12:16
fribuntuintelikey: So the icon for the "unencrypted" mark is probably missing?12:16
intelikeyfribuntu you could check ~/.x*log  and see if there is a missing icon.12:16
intelikeyor an error message about one that is.12:16
xquestionxhello, im having problems with the know bug in theinstalation process (it fails on the partition step). How can i manually install kubuntu?12:16
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astromando you know how to use diff command but just show the result without all marks like <> **** ????12:16
xquestionxcan i mv the contents (of which dir) to the partition i choose?12:17
xquestionxi know how to create the partition, make the filesystem, configure grub to boot from the kubuntu partition, etc... but, what are the contents of the cd thati must copy to that partition?12:18
Chousukeastroman: try reading the info page.12:18
Chousuke"info diff"12:18
astromani check and try all the options but nothing change12:19
intelikeyastroman -q12:19
intelikeytty2 [greg@~]  diff -q q s12:19
intelikeyFiles q and s differ12:19
intelikeytty2 [greg@~] 12:19
astromanok thxs12:19
xquestionxnone?12:20
intelikeyastroman one could squelch the output and use the exit code     diff one two >& /dev/null && command because they are the same || command because they differ12:21
intelikeythe only output would be that of command *    in the foregoing example12:21
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astromani'll try that i'll be back12:21
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xquestionxgood bye, thanks anyway12:25
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astromanintelikey the option -q just told me that the files differ. Me i need to check witch line differ and remove it from the file12:25
fribuntuintelikey: less ~/.x*log results in "no such file or directory"12:25
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reinhold_Hi all! is there any way to get a package of the 2.6.18 or 2.6.19 Kernel for Edgy?12:27
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h3sp4wnreinhold_: Not really - you could build one yourself if you wanted12:28
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jeismaanyone know how to change the type of icon you have for things on yoru desktop?12:35
Jucatoallee: sorry for the late reply, I was afk. Here's my situation: I compiled konversation from svn and put it in /opt/kdevel/install/bin. I added "/opt/kdevel/install/bin" to PATH and "/opt/kdevel" to KDEDIRS in /etc/environment. if I launch Konvi from Konsole, the correct (SVN) version is launched. but if I launch it from the mini-CLI or from the K Menu, the original version (1.0.1) is launched.12:35
reinhold_h3sp4wn: That never really worked. Plus, the 2.6.18 kernel I tried to build then also required some user-space driver for the wireless chipset. So I finally gave up trying to compile myself12:36
intelikeyastroman sed would be much more suited for that   or perl even.12:36
gnomefreakperl gives me a headache :(12:37
intelikeyfribuntu hmmm well /var/logs/xorg* then12:37
intelikeygnomefreak yeah i'd rather use sed  but that is one of the very things perl was made for.12:38
h3sp4wnperl is wonderful, or awk (I don't really get on with sed (the regexp syntax is slightly different to perls and I can never remember exactly how)12:38
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intelikeyhehhe actually there is no auk on ubuntu  it's mawk or nawk or some such  iirc12:39
intelikeyawk12:39
intelikeyls -l `which awk`12:40
intelikeylrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Nov 27 01:47 /usr/bin/awk -> mawk12:40
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jeismahow do i get my java runtime to work?12:41
intelikey!jre12:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:41
intelikey!java12:41
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository12:41
fribuntuintelikey: Xorg.0.log does not show any errors and there are no other logfiles I can find.12:42
jeismajeisma@Kubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin12:42
jeismaPassword:12:42
jeismaE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)12:42
jeismaE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?12:42
jeismajeisma@Kubuntu:~$12:42
jeismahow do i fix this?12:43
intelikeyfribuntu hmmm.  ok  then i don't guess i can answer exactly why you get the  ??  but we did find a way to bypass it.12:43
h3sp4wnjeisma: /msg ubotu adept crash fix12:43
fribuntuintelikey: yeah, thanks for that :)12:43
Jucato!adept crash fix | jeisma12:43
ubotujeisma: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'12:43
Jucatojeisma: and next time, please use pastebin. thanks12:44
intelikeyfribuntu and i would have just checked my logs but i don't have any logging turned on, and expected that you did so .....   :)12:44
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jeismasoo that all didn't help12:50
jeismastill don't have the firefox java runtime environment?12:51
jeismaor it's nto working when i play my game at least12:51
jeismaany help at all?12:51
jeismaoh what i need to download without having to read pages of instructions?12:51
DanglyBitscan anyone help with an usb headset audio problem?12:51
gnomefreakjeisma: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin12:52
gnomefreakjeisma: once its installed run sudo update-alternatives --config java12:52
gnomefreakjeisma: make sure multiverse repos are enabled so you can apt-get java12:52
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jeismaandthat's it?12:53
OmnifrogRIP James Kim12:53
Omnifrog:(12:53
gnomefreakjeisma: yep12:53
jeismagnomefreak i did sudo update-alternatives --config java12:53
mj246969WTF?12:53
jeismagnomefreak now it's asking for the option of 3 alternatives12:53
gnomefreakthats all you need to do did you choose the java 1.5 one?12:53
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gnomefreakjeisma: than type 3 than enter restart firefox12:54
jeismagnomefreak:  /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java is the 3rd one12:54
alleegnomefreak: and how to script it?12:54
gnomefreakjeisma: choose that one12:54
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gnomefreakallee: script what?12:54
alleegnomefreak: for an automatic installation. There I can't select the 3rd entry12:55
jeismagnomefreak: thank you som uch12:55
gnomefreakshould beable to just choose it12:55
Jucatobah this is driving me nucking futs!12:55
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gnomefreakallee: shouldnt have to script anything. you can also do it in the file system i believe there sa file for update-alternatives i just cant remember where12:56
alleeJucato: what?12:56
Jucatoallee: the problem I was stating earlier... :(12:56
DanglyBitscan anyone help with an usb headset audio problem?12:57
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JucatoI compiled konversation from svn (1.0.1+) and put it in /opt/kdevel/install/bin. I added "/opt/kdevel/install/bin" to PATH and "/opt/kdevel" to KDEDIRS in /etc/environment. if I launch Konvi from Konsole, the correct (SVN) version is launched. but if I launch it from the mini-CLI or from the K Menu, the original version (1.0.1) is launched.12:57
alleegnomefreak: the java alternatives have lot's of slave dependencies (and therefore soft links) :(  So it's a bit error prone to get them all12:57
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gnomefreakallee: correct than your best bet would be sudo update-alternatives --config --all :)12:58
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gnomefreaki use that 99% of time cause i cant remember all of them12:58
Jucato:)12:58
alleegnomefreak: ther must be an easier way12:58
allee+ ;)12:58
gnomefreakallee: not that i have found12:59
gnomefreaki guess you could ln -s all of them but thats not easier by any means12:59
alleegnomefreak: me too.  that's one of the handish task I have to do after an fully automatic installation :(12:59
h3sp4wnallee: --auto01:00
Bubba_Gumphow do i open konq in file browsing mode?01:01
alleeJucato: here a script I use to test digikam svn builds: http://paste.debian.net/17951   Same should work when you adapt them you konversation installation01:01
gnomefreakBubba_Gump: open it and on the first page you will see home and other things pick one01:01
Bubba_Gumpyes01:01
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Bubba_Gumpi mean from a shortcut01:01
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Jucatoallee: thanks :)01:01
gnomefreakBubba_Gump: make a bookmark? or use terminal :)01:02
alleeJucato: note don't cut it into /etc/environment.  AFAIK no scripts there allowed01:02
Bubba_Gumpto open a web browser it isL kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing01:02
JucatoBubba_Gump: launch Home from the System Menu applet in Kicker?01:02
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JucatoBubba_Gump: or kfmclient openProfile filemanagement01:02
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Jucatoallee: where should KDEDIRS be defined in the first place? /etc/environment or /etc/profile?01:03
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Dr_Househow can I get a dock working01:03
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ubuntuhi01:04
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Bubba_GumpJucato: thanks :)01:06
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alleeJucato: depends ;)  You want to enable it for the you hole system?  mhhm, because path is changed I would use /etc/profile01:07
Jucatoyep. for the whole system. ok I'll try in /etc/profile01:07
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alleeJucato: just a tip.  Learn how to rebuild pkgs. and backport debian or feisty konversation version.  Using pkgs is much easier in the long run01:08
h3sp4wnallee: sudo update-alternatives --set ksh /bin/zsh4 (that is how to do it and the syntax)01:08
Jucatoallee: I'm heading that way too (Ubuntu Packaging Guide). ;) but this is just nagging me. I can't seem to figure out why KDE still runs the version of konvi in /usr/bin, while bash runs the one in /opt/kdevel/installed/bin01:09
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Dr_HouseMy computer doesn't seem to accept the root password I type in.  Is there anyway of checking my root password?01:11
JohnFluxJucato: look for the .desktop file01:11
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JohnFluxJucato: konversation.desktop in your case01:12
JucatoJohnFlux: checked it. didn't point to /usr/bin. just plain Exec=konversation01:12
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Bubba_Gumphow do i remove the desktop icon from the taskbar?01:12
JohnFluxDr_House: you could change it:    sudo passwd root01:12
JucatoDr_House: you set up a root password?01:12
JohnFluxJucato: hmm oh yeah01:13
Dr_HouseJohnFlux: Thank you01:13
Jucatouh oh...01:13
alleeh3sp4wn: --auto will work on edgy. there sun java has highest prio.  But that not the case in dapper.  Nevertheless ...01:13
Jucatoroot user isn't enabled by default in Kubuntu. that will enable it...01:13
h3sp4wnallee: --set is the proper way to do it though01:13
alleeh3sp4wn, gnomefreak: date-alternatives --set java /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java01:13
Jucatobrb01:14
gnomefreakallee: ty i never seen that before01:14
alleeh3sp4wn: heh, found it already, don't know why I missed it the first time01:14
alleegnomefreak: me too ;)01:14
h3sp4wnI found it like within 20 seconds of looking at the man page01:14
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allees/assumed/assumes/01:15
h3sp4wnIf you are doing an automated installation though with preseeding you may as well only including that alternatives you need01:15
h3sp4wns/that/the01:15
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alleeh3sp4wn: yeah, didn't care to look what pulls in gcj  (fwiw.  I switched from preseeding to fai and I'm such more happier now)01:18
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aceofhertzDoes anyone know a sure-fire way of making a D-link DWL-G122 Rev B1 work with Kubuntu?01:20
h3sp4wnaceofhertz: ndiswrapper will almost certainly work01:21
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aceofhertzI've tried that using the inf file, but the leds still won't light up01:22
h3sp4wntry latest version of ndiswrapper first (read the instructions and the /topic in #ndiswrapper) once you have done that they are reasonably helpful01:23
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sponixdid anyone give me a torrent client recommendation ?01:29
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sponixI seem to have kwin (window manager) folding under pressure... when doing a major cp or i/o operation kwin bites the dirt, and they my usb keyboard doesn't want to type in X either ... But I do fine in normal (text) console01:30
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guillermo_hola01:34
guillermo_alguien que hable espaol ....01:34
Jucato!es01:34
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.01:34
guillermo_no hay problema con instalar icewm en mi kubuntu???01:35
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mj246969.........hello?????????????01:44
mj246969......anyone from north of Boston???01:45
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claydohmj246969: ayuh01:47
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mj246969&............anyone out there ???????????????01:48
claydohyes, mj24696901:48
mj246969...geez...was wondering01:48
claydohI ma here and north of Boston, didn't you detect my maine accent ?01:48
claydoh:)01:48
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Jucatoheh01:49
mj246969just loaded linux on my new 'putter01:49
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mj246969lol01:49
claydohtho once in a while the room is quiet, you can ask away and it might take a while for folks to catch up01:49
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mj246969....where aboute???...neer Lynn here01:49
claydohBrewer, MAine01:49
claydohnext to Bangor01:50
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claydohwaaay north of beantown01:50
mj246969......burrrrrrrrrrr....on the coast...near Nahaunt01:50
fnordfnwaht does Tx mean?01:50
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cloakablefnordfn: Transmit01:51
fnordfnclaydoh,  how north?01:51
fnordfnthanks01:51
mj246969built this computer and just loaded Kubuntu on it along with winXP01:51
claydohit actually is warming up here, 37 F was about 23 yesterday01:51
claydohMaine, almost Canada on the east coast01:51
mj246969wheeeeew.....was about 32 here but windy01:51
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fnordfnme too portland01:51
Murrlingood evening01:51
Jucato!offtopic01:51
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!01:51
claydohfnordfn: Brewer01:52
mj246969k ubotu01:52
claydohJucato: :P01:52
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Jucatoclaydoh: :P :) ;)01:52
fnordfnclaydoh, you in off topic?01:52
mj246969<<<<<<<<<<<Florida born ... tad bit chilly here to me01:52
claydohypu01:52
claydoherr yup01:53
Murrlinfor some reason, I'm having a spot of difficulty getting (or determining) opengl and nvidia's libraries/drivers to stand and be counted.01:53
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Murrlinkubuntu 6.0601:53
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mj246969...ummmmmmmm...am I just supposed to talk about something special?01:54
Telroth_Plushie|is anyone available to chat about hardware? I'm about to replace my mobo/proc/graphics card, and need to know what i need to change in config files to keep from reinstalling kubuntu01:54
mj246969off to offtopic...  :)01:55
cloakableTelroth_Plushie|: Nothing.01:55
Telroth_Plushie|cloakable, really? cool.01:55
cloakableThis isn't WinXP/Vista :)01:55
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cloakableYou can upgrade as many times as you want.01:56
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Jucatoactually, you would probably need to configure X if you change your video card01:56
Telroth_Plushie|will it auto-update the kernel module list that i need? (no longer need agp, need pci-e) and enable smp in the kernel and stuff (p4 -> core 2 duo)01:56
sponixanyone seen kwin crash && keyboard stop responding under heavy i/o loads01:56
Telroth_Plushie|gfx should be more or less ok, nv5200fx -> nv7900/795001:57
Telroth_Plushie|i can do graphics changes my self01:57
Telroth_Plushie|it's the kernel stuff i'm not sure about (using smp, loading different kernel modules, etc)01:57
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h3sp4wnTelroth_Plushie|: You shouldn't need to change anything01:58
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Telroth_Plushie|thanks everyone.01:59
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Telroth_Plushie|if it doesn't work i'll be here complaining anyways :P01:59
Telroth_Plushie|[now to collect the money to buy all my crap] 01:59
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mooreand13213!nvidia02:00
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:00
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harri3844greetingd02:05
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jakehello02:06
harri3844is there an update tool for kubuntu like update-manager?02:06
jakeI believe adept handles the updates02:06
harri3844oh ok02:06
JucatoAdept Updater (adept_updater) or Adept Manager (adept_manager in Edgy)02:06
homer_hi, i installed 7zip,but how can i start it?02:06
ranceI'm starting to get really frustrated with kubuntu, though I'm committed to staying the course, I have a ubuntu LTS 6.06 server in production now, and it is humming like a breeze, kubuntu edgy LOOKS smooth02:06
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jakethere will be an icon in you systray if there are updates02:07
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ranceI just can't figure out sound in kubuntu, why is that so hard when old versions of Knoppix boot cd recognize my hardware and play sound, why cant kubuntu02:07
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jakeI have broken my WindowsXP install messing around with the file permissions in Kubuntu, can anyone help me fix it02:08
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jakerance what kind of sound card do you have02:09
Jucato!sound02:09
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin02:09
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ranceI have been to and read all the debugging sound stuff I can find, including the urls from ubotu02:12
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rancejake, I have an old via82xx based sound card02:12
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ranceI have a write up posted at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems02:12
ranceoops02:13
rancesorry02:13
rancewrong paste02:13
rancehttp://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=11712.002:13
rancethere thats better02:13
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klerfaytI gor problems with "module" under kcontrol in user management02:14
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klerfaytmodule doesn't load. maybe it got removed, if so then what is package name?02:15
Jucatoklerfayt: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-guidance02:15
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klerfaytJucato: oh, I got it removed with power manager then I decided to go back to klaptop02:16
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wildcat_19i remember reading of a program that will automatically set up all the restricted stuff like mp3s, dvds and whatnot. anyone know what it is called and where to get it?02:16
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Jucato!easyubuntu02:17
klerfayt!automatix02:17
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe02:17
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu02:17
binaryflowhello02:17
wildcat_19is easyubuntu better than automatix?02:17
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diego#italia02:18
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klerfaytwildcat_19: no idea02:18
wildcat_19alright, thanx02:18
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eddieis it possible to import /apt/archive from cdrom?02:22
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eddiedownloaded already via slow connection02:22
phobiacI've got a newly created ext3 partition that isn't in fstab, how do I put it in there?02:22
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EricJ2190i am having problems logging in to kubuntu02:23
EricJ2190when i try to log in with the graphical login, it says "A critical error occured."02:24
EricJ2190when i try to log in from tty1 it asks for my username, but instead of asking for my password it says "Login incorrect."02:25
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fnordfnwhere does a ubuntu live cd mount ipods?02:27
klerfaytwhere should I mount /dev/sr0? /media/?02:28
malik__hi guyz can some tell me if konqueror remembers the last tabs which were open b4 we close it?.n if yes how does that settings work?02:28
Txabi\/mnt is dead, long live to /media :P02:28
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Jucatomalik__: no it doesn't02:29
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malik__is there any extension which will do it?.but im guessing there aint coz otherwise some1 wud have said it02:30
malik__?02:30
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JonTec!emacs02:31
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code02:31
malik__what abt mouse gestures in konq in kubuntu ?.is it possible to have some mouse gestures like there are in opera?02:32
fnordfnHELP i cant find my ipod on a live cd,wheere would it show up?it has files i dearly need02:32
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malik__use lsusb command02:33
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malik__it shud tell u where ur ipod is02:33
JonTecwhy can't I login?02:33
JonTecHey guys, I need help. I login, but I can't enter my password... at all. T_T what's wrong?02:34
EricJ2190but i can ssh into it02:34
EricJ2190oops, i just typed it into the irc window by accident02:35
EricJ2190lol did it again02:35
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JonTecI mean that I can put in my username, but it doesn't ask me for the password.02:35
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malik__u must have saved ur password02:37
fnordfnmalik__,  i couldent find it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35685/02:38
BluesKajEvening all :)02:38
JonTechow? I can't save the password? I get an incorrect login02:39
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gibletsI'm getting incredibly slow internet speed here.... no proxy config could be detected, not sure if there is a proxy though.02:41
gibletshmm02:41
gibletsany ideas what might be causing this? when I ping google, there's no lost packets... it just took 45 seconds for 6 packets02:41
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fnordfni keep getting a error saying Tx packets lost or soemthing form my wifi card in kubuntu itll pick up the signal form all the routers around her but wont let me log on even with a full signal02:42
malik__u mean u cant login?................... only can type ur login name?02:43
vltHello. I'm still on Dapper which means Konqueror 3.5.2. I just found that background-colors of options in an HTML document are not rendered. Why's that?  (Example: <select><option style="background-color:red;">foo</option>...)02:43
JonTecmalik__:yes02:43
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malik__okie u can reset ur password02:43
malik__goto http://easylinux.info02:43
malik__n select ur distro n there u have how to reset ur password02:44
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fnordfnanyone have a similer problem with wifi in kubuntu?it works fine in ubuntu02:45
JonTecmalik__: do you mean use the rescue kernel... and use passwd on my username?02:45
malik__no02:46
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malik__if ur installtion is okie n was working b4 n somehow u cant login back into ur comp then just reset the password thingy n it will let u back in02:47
malik__just gimme a sec i ll pick out exact thread n may b it ll work for u02:47
wildcat_19how can i access an ntfs partition in linux?02:47
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malik__wioldcat which distro r u usin?02:50
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malik__ # passwd system_main_username                        this shud do the trick for u if u type it on the command prompt or terminal which ever u wanna call it02:54
malik__thats was for jontec02:54
malik__i donno how to send personalised question or ans like u r sending me02:54
malik__thats why im posting in the main02:55
wildcat_19sorry, kubuntu02:56
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JonTecmalik__: it's just typing the user's name at the front of the message02:57
Murchadhwildcat_19, mount -t ntfs /dev/name /mnt/point02:57
JonTecmalik__:everyone can still see it...02:57
Murchadhwildcat_19, It's read only, though.02:57
wildcat_19thats fine, i just want to be able to play my music02:57
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fnordfnor just type the first few letters then hit tab02:58
malik__oooghh okie.im just a newbie :)............................... well are u on the welcome screen or at command propmt .for jontec?02:58
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JonTecmalik__: I was askin' the question for a friend... lol. he couldn't get an answer out of anyone in here... so I told him to have faith in the IRC channel and asked it for him. :D02:59
malik__coz if u r on welcome screen u need to restart the distro n dont boot into the normal kernal but recovery or just command line thingy n there u type that command n hopefully it will solve ur prob02:59
malik__its easy thingy n works for xp too like a charm03:00
malik__wild cat u need to go into ur root folder n then into media folder to see ur ntfs partitions03:00
fnordfnanyone ever have problems with kubntu not letting them logon to a wireless network even if they have a full signal?03:01
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kchevhi03:03
kchevi have a problem03:03
manchickenw00t y'all.  Anybody got anything needs working on?03:03
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Admiral_Chicago!java03:04
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository03:04
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malik__yes i need to know if i can make mouse gestures like opera in konqueror?03:04
malik__to manchicken03:05
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manchickenmalik__: Yes/.03:05
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knoppix_hi, i booted from knoppix to make a backup of kubuntu. how do i unmount hda1 ?03:05
manchickenmalik__: in kcontrol, go to Region & Accessability and then select Input Actions03:06
malik__how do i make em work?.n where wud they b located in kubuntu?03:06
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manchickenis /dev/hda1 mounted to /?03:07
knoppix_manchicken:  hmm. i dont know03:07
knoppix_adress in preference is  /home/knoppix/desktop ?03:08
malik__there is no kcontrol in kubuntu .tyo manchicken03:08
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wildcat_19im still trying to mount my windows partition, what is the command03:09
knoppix_mountpoint : media/hda103:09
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wildcat_19i put in sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/ and it did not work03:09
manchickenmalik__: Try settings03:09
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fnordfnmy wifi card works on a live ubuntu cd,could i copy the setings and transfere them to my kubuntu machine?03:12
malik__wild cat if u r using kubuntu then ur ntfs n fat partitions r already mounted in /media03:12
wildcat_19alright, then amarok should play my music then, correct?03:14
wildcat_19i just checked and they are not mounted03:14
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malik__thats strange but just a tic i ll write the command03:16
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malik__sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs03:17
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Lam_do ogg files have id3 tags, or is it a different tagging system?03:18
malik__sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -r -o uid=100003:18
malik__sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows03:18
wildcat_19mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist03:18
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malik__which ever will work03:18
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malik__okie the partition u r tryin to moiunt whats the windows drive name of that ?03:19
wildcat_19c:03:19
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manchickenWhat partition is it?03:20
malik__thats weird mate then sorry i cant figure out03:20
malik__im a newbie myself03:20
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wildcat_19first partition of first drive03:20
wildcat_19its cool03:21
manchickenSCSI or IDE?03:21
EightiesK! xserver03:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:21
wildcat_19ide03:21
EightiesK! live03:21
ubotuUbuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.03:21
EightiesKany one know how i can change my display type to vesa in x server03:22
malik__manchiken ....in the system settings in kubuntu there are two separate icons one regional n one accessability which one shud i goto?03:22
EightiesKi forgot....03:22
manchickenTry accessability.03:22
EightiesKi can't start x server03:22
EightiesKit errors03:22
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malik__okie.im at input actions03:23
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EightiesKi know i just need to change it to vesa though03:23
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wildcat_19malik__: its accesibility, i just did it03:23
EightiesK!vesa03:23
ubotuvesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x03:23
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EightiesK!x03:24
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:24
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[Relic] Hello :)03:24
[Relic] Anyone awake?03:24
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wildcat_19manchicken: its an ide drive03:25
majnoonnope03:25
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[Relic] is there any thing that will cause problems if I switch for an amd board to an intel board?  aka will I need to reinstall or will it just detect the hardware changes?03:26
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malik__i know it is probably rude to say but isnt it fedora 6  or 5 better than kubuntu in terms of usage of memory?03:33
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malik__last installtion of fedora at tops was using between 2 n 3 hundred mb of ram03:33
malik__but this kubuntu is usin abt 700mb03:33
Admiral_Chicagohow can i do remote desktoping?03:33
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ryanakcahow do you install the ubuntu/feisty build of kernel 2.6.19 onto edgy?03:35
malik__i have 1 gig ddr ram n its usin atm abt 970mb of it?.any remedy for that?.................03:35
etruscoHello. Anybody using Feisty with a non-english locale?03:36
Admiral_Chicagoetrusco: ubuntu+103:36
Admiral_Chicagoerr #ubuntu+103:36
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malik__how do i make my installtion use less ram?........................any idea mr manchicken?03:36
[Relic] is it actually using the ram or is it the 3 layer thing that shows all ram allocatted even free memory?03:37
etruscoryanakca: i guess it's not a good idea. It'll have to update udev and some other low-level...03:37
ryanakca[Relic] : depends on your kernel03:37
etruscoAdmiral_Chicago: thanks :-S03:38
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manchickenmalik__: What you mean?  What is using a lot of memory?03:38
ryanakcaetrusco: I built it from source... but for some reason it seems to be slower that 2.6.17... dunno why, I have half of the options the ubuntu kernel has03:38
[Relic] 2.6.17 I think03:39
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ryanakca[Relic] : no, the architecture it was built for03:40
ryanakcabbl03:40
[Relic] no clue  duron 1800 going to p4 1.8 since the amd board is shot03:40
[Relic] installed from the live cd  :)03:41
[Relic] assuming it was donwloaded not created03:41
malik__when i open the kde system guard it tells me that it is meanin my comp is usin abt 970 out 1 gig ram03:42
[Relic] but it is makred as used, buffer, and unused, then totalled isn't it?03:43
malik__i have allaocated my distro abt 2 gig of swap memory but its usin only abt 12 kb of it while hogging the pysical ram03:43
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Jucatoit's supposed to be that way malik__03:44
manchickenmalik__: What do things like top say you got free?03:44
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kelviewhat's a good KDE program to manage TODO lists? (preferably not korganizer)03:44
etruscomalik__: linux is not windows. it doesn't use swap when you don't need to ;-)03:44
Jucatomalik__: 1) swap is only used when RAM runs out, and 2) accessing RAM is much faster than accessing swap03:45
Jucatoand 3) you paid for that RAM, why don't you want to use it? :)03:45
etruscomalik__: probably most of your memory is showing as "cached" isn't it?03:45
malik__but then how come its hogging so much of ram?.i mean fedora was usin at most abt 350 odd mb of ram .n this thing kubuntu is usin nearly all of it03:46
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malik__even ubuntu didnt hogg that much ram03:46
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: yeah catch up on some sleep03:46
Chousukemalik__: it's not hogging it.03:46
Chousukemalik__: it's caching03:46
ChousukeIt tries to use all available RAM, even if apps don't need it.03:46
Jucatomalik__: file cache. you can see how much RAM is being allocated to Apps and how much to the cache in KInfoCenter03:47
Chousuketo speed up operation.03:47
manchickenmalik__: You gotta know what's using the memory.03:47
[Relic] the graph thing makes it looks like it is all used when the vast majority of it usually isn't03:47
Chousukeif apps need the ram, then it's taken from the cache space.03:47
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malik__in the system load - kde system guard ......................its sayin 971mb used n abt 59 mb free of physical memeory03:47
manchickenBut what is using it?03:48
manchickenA program has to be using it.03:48
ChousukeYou just have to know that free ram is useless RAM03:48
Jucatomalik__: take a peek at KInfoCenter03:48
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ChousukeHmm03:50
ChousukeIt seems I currently have 22 MB of free RAM :)03:51
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Chousuke400MB is inactive though.03:51
malik__i did n its sayin only 5 % free physical memory n im not running anything apart from amarok n irc n amsn03:51
Chousukemalik__: that's normal03:51
Chousukeit's being used for cache03:51
Chousukeas it should be03:52
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ChousukeI mean, if you have 2 GB of RAM, what use would it be to have 80% of it unused all the time?03:52
etruscomalik__: file cache, to be a bit more - but not exactly -precise03:52
ChousukeIt would be the same as if you had just ~256 MB of ram :P03:53
etruscounix/linux keeps all the files that it reads on memory until some program needs the memory03:53
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malik__okie thats fine n i get that but how come on the same system fedora was usin less memory n was a little bit faster?03:55
manchickenmalik__: What program is using the memory?03:55
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etruscorepharsing :-S  linux keeps in memory all the files it reads, until some program needs the memory03:55
Jucatomalik__: could be a lot of factors03:55
wildcat_19how can i make the buttons on my logitech mx518 work?03:56
Chousukedid you run KDE on Fedora as well?03:56
malik__yes i had gnome n kde both installed there03:56
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etruscoChousuke: the guy won't say "where" the memory is in use, why bother keep on guessing? ;-)03:57
Chousukehmm03:57
malik__but i think imlikin kubuntu  coz its doin so far everythin apart from plugins for opera03:57
Chousuketrue03:57
otaku-sanDoes anyone know if there is a kbfx channel?03:57
ChousukeIt's 5 am and I haven't even slept yet.03:57
malik__well there are alotta processess runnin guyz im just a newbie n dont know which one is which03:58
Chousukewell just look at the figures.03:58
Chousukewhich uses the most ram, and tell us the name of that process.03:58
etruscomalik__: open the "KSysguard Performance Monitor" in the System menu03:58
fnordfnwhat are the loc./names of the files that configure my wireless?03:59
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etruscoanybody feel free to suggest a better program ;-)03:59
intelikeyetrusco for what ?04:00
malik__well i donno what they r but seems like python nkicker n wish n knotify n kicker are the biggest culprits04:00
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malik__whatever they r04:01
etruscointelikey: see how the ram is used: cached files, kernel memory buffers or application memory04:01
Chousukemalik__: You should learn to use proper spelling.04:01
etruscomalik__: please do as I suggest :)04:01
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ChousukeI'm just saying this, but when communicating over irc you only have written language, and it's best to not appear lazy or indifferent about spelling. Even though sadly most won't care.04:03
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malik__i am reading from Ksysguard04:03
malik__what is the process called kded?04:04
malik__its taking about 32mb04:04
fnordfnthats alot04:04
fnordfn!kded04:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kded - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:04
intelikeyetrusco "cat /proc/meminfo" + "free -m" + "top"   from the cli    ksysguard in the gui i guess04:04
malik__should i kill this process?04:05
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JohnFluxmalik__: haha04:05
etruscomalik__: this doesn't matter. VM size for process is wildly influenced but tens of factors04:05
JohnFluxmalik__: no, don't kill kded :-)04:05
h08817so i was just wondering what is the major difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?04:05
Chousukethe DE04:05
JohnFluxh08817: the default package on the dvd04:05
etruscomalik__: switch to the System Load tab04:05
JohnFluxh08817: or cd04:05
JohnFluxh08817: nothing else04:05
h08817so nothing to do with the desktop or anything?04:06
Chousukewell, kubuntu has KDE by default04:06
h08817so it comes with more programs?04:06
Chousukeand ubuntu has gnome.04:06
Chousukebut it's possible to install either in both.04:06
JohnFluxh08817: right, what Chousuke said04:06
etruscoand kubuntu has amarok :D04:06
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Chousukeso does ubuntu04:06
malik__okie im at system load tab ............to etrusco04:06
h08817what is amarok?04:06
Chousukeubuntu and kubuntu are the same distro. just different default settings.04:07
intelikeyetrusco yeah that's enough reason for me to not like it  :)04:07
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etruscomalik__: see the physical memory graph?04:07
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malik__yes its almost towards the top of the box04:07
etruscomalik__: bingo!04:08
fnordfnso noone here knw the mnmae of the config file for a wireless card?serius?04:08
JohnFluxintelikey: do you understand what those entries in meminfo mean?04:08
etruscomalik__: this means it's only cached files! you don't have to worry ;-)04:08
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manchickenfnordfn: What now?04:08
intelikeyJohnFlux yeah  why?04:09
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malik__okie .thanks alot.to all of u guyz for putting up with me.04:09
JohnFlux"VmallocTotal: 34359738367 kB"04:09
JohnFluxheh04:09
JohnFluxintelikey: because I've been meaning to try to improve the memory reporting in ksysguard04:09
etruscomalik__: np04:10
JohnFluxintelikey: but it's hard to find anyone that understands what means what :-)04:10
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malik__what is katapult?....an installer program for linux?04:12
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JohnFluxmalik__: a popup thingy helper thingy04:12
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JohnFluxmalik__: run it, and press alt+space04:12
manchickenkatapult is a program runner.04:12
JohnFlux+calculator04:12
JohnFlux+finder04:12
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JohnFlux+irc chatter thingy04:12
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JohnFluxintelikey: what's vmRSS ?04:13
etruscovirtual memory resident set size =P04:14
JohnFlux;-)04:14
fnordfnmanchicken,  i need the location and the names of the files that control my wifi card04:14
etruscothe real amount of physical which acessible to the program04:14
JohnFluxwhat if the program is swapped out?04:15
manchickenfnordfn: IIRC, most of that is kernel-related.04:15
JohnFluxwhat about mmap space?04:15
fnordfniirc?04:15
JohnFluxor graphics memory04:15
manchickenif I recall correctly04:15
JohnFluxfnordfn:  if i remember correctly04:15
JohnFluxmanchicken: you recalled wrongly!04:16
JohnFlux!smite04:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:16
manchickenFair enough.04:16
JohnFluxrats, no smite command04:16
JohnFluxmanchicken: i think you're right actually04:16
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fnordfnare they the same in ubuntu as in kubuntu?04:16
JohnFluxfnordfn: yes04:16
JohnFluxfnordfn: they only differ on the default desktop04:17
Spitzfirei didn,t see irc client in ubuntu04:17
manchickenfnordfn: kubuntu == (ubuntu - gnome + kde)04:17
manchicken(or close enough)04:17
fnordfnswwet thanks ive been trying to figure this out for like 1:3004:17
JohnFluxetrusco: bah04:17
fnordfnyea i know i just wanted to know if i could switch tntuhe ones from ubuntu over to kubu04:17
etruscoJohnFlux: memory that's swaped out isn't counted in vmrss.04:18
JohnFluxetrusco: memory is too hard to figure out04:18
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JohnFluxetrusco: ah, interesting04:18
Spitzfirepeople sent me to start on linux to kubuntu04:18
fnordfnso iirc and nmap space04:18
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fnordfnthats it?04:18
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etruscoJohnFlux: AFAICT mmap'ed address are counted in it too.04:19
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etruscoJohnFlux: indeed, VM is a pita04:19
JohnFluxetrusco: *nod* it would be hard to tell them apart04:19
JohnFluxetrusco: i'm the maintainer of ksysguard :/04:19
etruscoi hope you're kidding :D04:20
JohnFluxi wish!04:20
etruscoJohnFlux: or were you testing me? hehe04:20
intelikeythere is something that doesn't meet the eye about that....  "VmallocChunk:   768056 kB"  but that's with "MemTotal:       255220 kB"   no swap....04:20
JohnFluxetrusco: uh yes of course!  well done!04:20
Spitzfirei,m giving up on putting ubuntu or kubuntu loadin them up on vm04:20
intelikeyhow can it regester  VmallocTotal:   770040 kB   when there is only 256m  ?04:21
JohnFluxVmallocTotal: 34359738367 kB04:21
etruscointelikey: lazy alloc?04:21
JohnFluxbeat that04:21
JohnFluxVmallocChunk: 34359702003 kB04:22
JohnFluxVmallocUsed:     36016 kB04:22
intelikeyyeah but how much swap ?04:22
JohnFluxum04:22
intelikeysee i have NO swap04:22
JohnFluxeither way04:22
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JohnFluxI have just slightly less than 34359738367kB  of swap!04:23
manchickenThat's a lot of swap.04:23
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fnordfnwhy?how many megs is that?04:23
JohnFlux34TB  give or take04:23
fnordfnwhy?how?04:23
JohnFluxi have no idea what VmallocTotal means04:23
JohnFluxbut it sure isn't my swap or memory size04:23
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fnordfnI cant find IIRC anywhere on my comp.04:24
JohnFluxlol04:24
etruscovirtual memory in linux can be more "virtual" than in windows =P04:24
JohnFluxfnordfn: "iirc" means "if i recall correctly"04:24
fnordfnvirtual memory alocated total?04:24
fnordfnthanx04:24
intelikeynor the alocated vertual machine memory which would over lap all ram + swap for all vm's running.04:24
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manchickenIt's also an IRC client.04:25
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JohnFluxmanchicken: ..  how confusing04:25
etruscolinux only really allocate the memory when the "memory" is "touched" (read or written)04:25
manchickenJohnFlux: It's a mystery... like me.04:25
fnordfnwhats a god amount of VM?04:25
fnordfnGOOD*04:25
etruscoso you can allocate as much memory as you want if you don't actually use it...04:25
JohnFluxwell i'm happy with 34TB04:25
intelikeya god amount would be infinite wouldn't it ????04:25
fnordfnthats just overkill04:26
JohnFluxfnordfn: you can't really change it04:26
JohnFluxdepends on if you're in 34 or 64bit mode04:26
JohnFluxuh04:26
JohnFlux3204:26
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fnordfncant you resize your swap?isint that vm?or am i confused04:26
ChousukeVirtual memory doesn't exist.04:27
ChousukeVirtual memory is what you app thinks it has04:27
Chousukeit may be more than your swap04:27
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Chousukeand your physical memory.04:27
JohnFluxit can also point to your hard disk04:27
JohnFluxor graphics memory04:28
JohnFluxor pci address..04:28
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JohnFluxor serial port04:28
JohnFluxprobably other things04:28
JohnFlux:-D04:28
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fnordfnok,so whats a good amount of swap for a 80 gig hd?04:28
JohnFluxfnordfn: I always set mine to a 100MB04:28
intelikeyi never have swap04:29
fnordfnhuh i gusse i over did it04:29
Dasnipa`fnordfn, swap isnt a function of your harddrive space04:29
etruscoswap size isn't related to harddisk, but to ram size04:29
ThePubit used to be twice your ram, but with as much ram as we have anymore :)04:29
fnordfnbut you make swap partitions out of your hard disk?04:29
JohnFluxetrusco: used to be, grandpa04:29
Dasnipa`fnordfn, yeah 1 gb is about typical04:29
JohnFluxfnordfn: there used to be this rough guideline04:29
JohnFluxfnordfn: which said a good swap size is about the size of your real memory.04:30
intelikeyand i have heard the arguments against not using swap... as for my wants and needs i don't choose to use swap.04:30
etruscoJohnFlux: i was about to complete, "if anything else", but I'm not quite sure the expression meant what I want :-S04:30
JohnFluxfnordfn: so if you have 128MB of memory, then make your swap 128MB as well04:30
Dasnipa`JohnFlux, the old standard was twice memory...04:30
ThePubhaven't swap isn't a terribly bad idea, if for some reason you need it then you're not crashing at least ^^04:31
JohnFluxDasnipa`: great-grandpa?04:31
ThePubs/haven't/having/04:31
Spitzfirehow to change the color of irc client this is hard on the eyes04:31
intelikeyJohnFlux fnordfn another old rule of thumb was (ram x 2) + kernel size  (normally around 4m unpacked)04:31
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JohnFluxThePub: I can see that people might rather the OOM just kill a few apps than grind the system to a crawl using swap04:32
fnordfnoom?04:32
JohnFluxOut Of Memory  manager04:32
JohnFluxthe thing that decides what to kill when you run out of memory :-)04:32
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JohnFluxi used to kernel hack heh04:33
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ThePubJohnFlux: "grind the syustem to a crawl" is hardly representative of using some swap.04:33
fnordfnim running a 1.7ghz 512 ram 80gig hd should i use it or not?04:33
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JohnFluxfnordfn: yes04:33
JohnFluxfnordfn: 128MB is fairly good04:33
JohnFluximho04:33
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etruscoswap is useful so that rarely used apps or rarely used memory inside your apps can be moved to swap to make more room for disk cache :)04:34
intelikeyfnordfn by all modern standards yes.   but it depends one whether or not you want to really04:34
JohnFluxThePub: if you've run out of memory and relying on swap, your system isn't going to be fun to work with04:34
etruscoJohnFlux: lol04:34
intelikeyetrusco yeah but if you never use over 100m anyway and have three times that....04:35
ThePubJohnFlux: Hopefully that isn't the case then eh?  Like I said, it's not a killer to have some for the "just in case it's needed" scenario.04:35
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JohnFluxThePub: but like I said, it's not killer to me if the kernel (OOM) just kills the app that's eating all my memory04:36
fnordfn!oom04:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about oom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:36
etruscointelikey: sure, but unfortunately it's some years since linux desktops could run on less than 100MB ram :(04:36
ThePubJohnFlux: Let's hope it's not important then ^_^04:36
JohnFluxThePub: Indeed :-)04:36
intelikeyetrusco hah  shows what you know.04:36
fnordfnwhats edgy recomend for ram?04:37
draikI am still having the same issue as yesterday.04:37
Spitzfireanyone use vm and get it sorted to run all linux os04:37
draikI cannot get the SD card in my Kodak EasyShare C643 to read.04:37
JohnFluxSpitzfire: uh, what?04:37
draikThe camera wants to format the card04:37
JohnFluxSpitzfire: vmware you mean?04:38
draikDoes anybody know of a way around this?04:38
draikI want to be able to view the pictures and back them up.04:38
Spitzfirejohn you mind if i call you j04:38
intelikeyetrusco i ran dapper in 128m  on this box.... i have added another 128 now.   but i have another box with 64m i have ran kubuntu in with no swap... only if i got careless would oomk come into play.04:38
Spitzfirekeep things short :)04:38
JohnFluxSpitzfire: type "jo" then press tab04:38
SpitzfireJohnFlux: haha04:39
Spitzfireworks04:39
JohnFlux:-)04:39
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fnordfnis a celeron M, 64bit?04:39
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Spitzfirei,m a newbie nob well nots say nob just startin out fresh04:39
manchickenNo, that's 3204:39
intelikeyetrusco this box is only using 12m as we speek.04:40
manchickenI don't believe there are any 64-bit celeron procs.04:40
etruscointelikey: you're running on text mode? =P04:40
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reggiehello04:41
intelikeyetrusco not now i'm not.  and it went up to    15m04:41
reggie?04:41
sbrhi guys04:41
ThePubetrusco: it can remain pretty slim if you go minimalistic.04:41
etruscohi04:41
JohnFluxi remember booting X off of 6 floppies04:41
JohnFluxkernel, a few programs, everything in 6 floppies04:42
ThePubJohnFlux: Yggdrasil CD boot, more fun ^^04:42
JohnFluxah, those were the days04:42
JohnFlux:-D04:42
JohnFluxCD's were cheating04:42
reggieanybody know how to burn grub bootloader to cdrom?04:42
ThePubJohnFlux: not when it's an external panasonic 1/2 speed disk ^^04:42
JohnFluxreggie: google?04:42
etruscoThePub, intelikey: i know all of this, but i'm a programmer, and i like firefox, and i keep amule usually, and i like listening to amarok, so... :-P04:42
intelikeyinstall and use grub-cd ?04:42
reggieya04:43
reggieya04:43
reggiei know04:43
JohnFluxintelikey: oh there's a grub-cd ?04:43
JohnFluxthat's cool04:43
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reggiei dont have a floppy drive04:43
intelikeyexcuse me it's  grub-disk04:43
JohnFluxThePub: what, _only_ 78Kb/sec ?  Luxury!!04:43
reggiei need to burn a bootable grub cd04:43
JohnFluxuh04:44
JohnFlux64 Kb/sec04:44
intelikeyJohnFlux yes there is a downloadable grub-cd   all it does is runs grub from the cd04:44
JohnFluxor whatevr 1/2 speed is04:44
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reggieis it on main ubuntu site?04:44
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jeff_Hi, all04:45
intelikeyunfortunatly i can't use grub  it won't boot my system04:45
jeff_Hey, does anyone know if the user icon size in a userlist in KDM is configurable?04:45
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ThePubjeff_: user icon size?04:46
reggiegrub keeps corrupting the mbr of my win xp installation when i install it on C: drive04:46
intelikeyjeff_ of course it is.  it's just a question of how much time and energy you want to spend on it.04:46
metresreggie : I use gag boot loader and it works fine04:46
intelikeyreggie of course it will04:46
ThePubSo my question is simple.  After installing the ATI proprietary driver TVTime "moves" the picture away when my mouse moves to the second display.  Why?04:47
reggiewhy would it if it is able to sniff out the ntfs04:47
ThePubI'm guessing it is related to something related to a video overlay desktop size.04:48
intelikeyreggie cause the mbr is where it's installing to ???04:48
reggieok then....04:48
jeff_intelikey: well, I just finished modifying the default kubuntu theme to include a user list.  I was hoping there was something I could put in the XML.04:48
reggieso your saying it installs it inside the xp partition?04:49
intelikeyjeff_ i'm sure there is.  i'm sorry i don't have the easy answer for you.04:49
jeff_ThePub: Yeah, when you use a userlist in KDM, you can specify icons for each user (like a face or racecar, etc) -- I'm trying to make them larger.04:49
intelikeyreggie no04:49
intelikeyreggie the mbr is outside the xp partition04:49
reggieok :)04:49
reggieim getting somewhere04:50
intelikeyreggie the mbr is the first 512 bites of the disk itself04:50
jeff_intelikey: That's ok -- I'm looking through docs.kde.org, although the HTML help doesn't seem to deal with theme creation at all.04:50
reggiethis has been driving me crazy for 3 days04:50
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intelikey!grub | reggie04:51
ubotureggie: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:51
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reggieok thanks ive been through the grub howto link however i have a question04:53
jeff_intelikey: Actually, looking through the docs, it looks like the current version of KDM wants to scale user icons to 48x48, but may show larger sizes in the future.  In case you were curious.04:53
reggiewhere it says INSTalling grub to other disks04:53
metresDo anyone know why windows volume manager corrupt my kubuntu partition ?04:53
enyawixwhat mail server is it that acts like sendmail on install?04:53
enyawixqmail or postfix04:53
intelikeyjeff_ k  thanks for the fish.04:54
reggieis it possible to put grub on a cdrom to boot from?04:54
intelikeyenyawix postfix04:54
reggiethey dont say04:54
enyawixthanks04:54
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intelikeyreggie it is indeed  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:54
reggieok ill search again04:55
intelikeyreggie there is also a pre-built iso for that.  goggle can find it.04:55
reggiethanks04:56
reggiei will search04:56
intelikey</sp!> jewgle04:56
reggiei found thaanks04:57
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reggiethanks04:57
intelikeyyeah that too  :)04:57
reggieim just tired04:57
intelikeyi just can't spell04:58
intelikey:)04:58
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intelikeysome times i have trubble spelling 'a'04:58
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mathieu_ /join #kde-devel05:00
mathieu_blah05:00
mathieu_is there a way to make kscreensaver NOT apply keypress to underlying app?05:00
desterkinI just installed ndiswrapper-utils, and the appropriate driver. Install looked good, but iwconfig shows AP Invalid.05:00
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desterkinAlso, lshw -C network lists the entry for the wireless card as disabled.05:02
intelikeymathieu_ if you could cause the screensaver to focus input to a null app05:02
intelikeyi mean i'm sure it can be done05:02
mathieu_so many time I have quanta running, then kscreensaver starts and introduce fatal error in my PHP code when I hit a key to return to my desktop05:03
intelikeyor could readin a blank keymap when screensaver starts and reset it when it drops out.05:03
mathieu_I;'d rather have a checkbox :P05:03
intelikeyoh   there may be one.   i don't mess with screen savers05:04
intelikeyapm blanks my screen if inactive for 15 minutes...05:04
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mathieu_well I set it at 1 min. so my sneaky coworkers dont... err.. sneak :P05:05
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intelikeymathieu_ hehhe yeah.05:06
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intelikeymake them hack your box,  that'll teach 'em    :)05:07
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intelikeymathieu_ and that's with password ?     i would have thought the pasword reader would catch the input.05:08
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mathieu_w/o password05:08
intelikeydapper running kde in less than 30m of ram as we speek...05:09
mathieu_actually I set password 90 seconds later05:09
mathieu_so in this case no problem05:09
mathieu_I guess I could kjust fix that05:09
mathieu_but still... id have loved an option05:10
mathieu_30m??05:10
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intelikeyyeah free -m   -/+ buffers/cache:         27        22205:10
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intelikeyused 27m   free  222m05:11
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intelikeyit's only got 114m allocated  proving that 128m is still enough if the apps don't get too hungry05:13
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intelikeythe only thing running in kde is konqueror and kicker  at this time.    there are 12 shells running system wide05:15
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Jucatocan anyone view this SVG in Konqueror? http://kubuntu.org/art/kubuntu-edgy.svg (it displays in Firefox and Opera)05:22
Dr_willisIn the status bar..  "A Legal svg document requires a <sgv> root element"05:24
Dr_willisit aint showing here. :)05:24
Jucatoheh...05:24
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Jucatoso it's not Kubuntu-specific. thanks :)05:24
Dr_willisworks in opera :)05:25
Jucatolike what I said :)05:25
Dr_willistry it in links!05:25
Dr_willis:)05:25
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Jucatolol05:25
intelikeyworks in elinks05:26
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jeff_Hi, all05:30
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mathieu_lo05:30
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jeff_Anyone have any idea why Amarok will only show me /home and /media when I try to build a collection?05:32
jeff_Interestingly, Konqueror does the same thing to me.05:32
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mathieu_hidden files05:33
jeff_Even though doing a ls at / will show me everything.05:33
mathieu_i guess theres a bot command...05:33
Dr_willisThats a 'feature'05:34
Dr_willis:)05:34
Dr_willis!hidden05:34
ubotuKubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles05:34
unix_infidelwill fawn have the same "feature"?05:34
Jucatono05:34
Dr_willisproberly05:34
mathieu_unix_infidel: no05:34
unix_infidelspectacular.05:34
abattoirunix_infidel: i's been removed in edgy itself05:34
Jucatodidn't you read the Herd1 release notes?05:34
mathieu_(from what I read, anyway)05:34
jeff_Dr_willis: thanks. sounds like it.05:34
Jucato:P05:34
Dr_willisno? heh they got that many complaints about it?05:34
jeff_mathieu_: thanks for your help.05:34
Jucatoabattoir: not in edgy yet, afaik05:34
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abattoirJucato: i think there was an update...05:34
unix_infidelJucato: i dont get paid to read release notes :P05:34
unix_infidelnot for a desktop OS anyway :P05:35
Jucatoabattoir: no update for kubuntu-default-settings, so that would be a 'no'05:35
Dr_willisI sort of like the .hidden thing - keeps the wife from getting lost when shes  loading a file.05:35
unix_infidelmaybe it should be an installer option.05:35
JucatoDr_willis: they will be trying to implement something different but still usable05:35
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mathieu_i can confirm its not in feisty anymore05:35
Dr_willisHeh - yea. a 'per user' feature would be best i guess.05:35
abattoirJucato: well, you should know...05:36
Jucatoabattoir: heh yeah. I keep tabs on it :)05:36
abattoirJucato: you keep tabs on *everything* :P05:36
Dr_willisHmm..05:36
Jucatothere has been no update for k-d-s, so it won't be affected :P05:36
Dr_willisIs the default 'samba config' now set to not share homes?05:36
Dr_willisi just instatalled samba on thus box and noticed that.05:36
JucatoDr_willis: I think something like grayed-out folders for the root stuff or something...05:36
Dr_willisJucato,  the problem i see with 'user friendly tweaks' like this is that it often makes it harder for 'support people (like us)' to help users trouble shoot.. because we have to work around the idiot-proofing :)05:37
intelikeythey have to protect the precious os for the damned owner/users ...05:37
intelikeyit's really sad that people think that way.05:38
Dr_willisIts not like a user can trash stuff by poking around /,  :)05:38
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Dr_williseven now with the .hidden you can still type in /etc/ to get there05:38
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mathieu_but *not* where it would make sense though (like that amarok collection dialog)05:38
Jucatointelikey: not all users are as smart as you05:38
Jucato:)05:39
intelikeymost are smarter.05:39
Dr_willisI find it odd that a music collection wouldent be in the users home dir. :)05:39
JucatoI doubt it :P05:39
JucatoDr_willis: some put it in other partitions, which they (wrongly?) mount in /mnt05:39
Dr_willisbut i have 7 hard drives on this box... so i got trash scattered all over.. but all the extra hd's have links on the users desktop. :P05:39
intelikeyhow many refuse to use propritary krap on general principal ?   that should be enough said right there.05:40
mathieu_Dr_willis: my collection is on a NAS05:40
mathieu_i guess im not alone05:40
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Dr_willisI made a 'drives' dir with links to all the other drives and other 'shares' that sits in the  users home dir.05:40
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JucatoDr_willis: that's smart :)05:40
Jucatoat least for me05:40
Dr_willisI consoldated all my usb/nas/fileservers - into this one box.05:40
stefanohi to all05:40
mathieu_well i would never give up my nslu205:41
Dr_willisi kept loseing fileservers.. (where did i hook that one up to....)05:41
stefanoI need help for a problem with my pen sub wifi05:41
Jucatooff to lunch05:41
Dr_willismathieu_,  i got one.. found it a little flakey.. so i moved the usb drives to a fileserver.05:41
mathieu_flakey?05:41
stefanocan someone help me?05:41
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intelikey!wifi | stefano05:42
ubotustefano: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:42
Dr_willismathieu_,  yep.. it would just 'lose connection' every so often.. and other weirdness.. never did track it down.05:42
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mathieu_ok. you unsnlung'ed it?05:42
Dr_willisI think i still got it in the closet.05:42
Dr_willisI used the unslung stuff also to try to get it more stable..05:43
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Dr_willisbeen a few months now since i last used it.05:43
Dr_willisperhaps a year even.05:43
Dr_willisi need to give it to my brother. :)05:43
ScottAI need help. I am a SERIOUS n00b to linux.05:43
Dr_willishe gets all my old stuff05:43
mathieu_mine's used as a bittorrent client and a NZB parser, as well as a poor-man's firewall and i got 0 complaint so far (2yrs)05:43
Dr_willisScottA,  #1 ask a question.05:43
stefanoohok...but I have kubuntu...is the info the same?05:43
ScottAsrry05:43
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ScottAI recently installed kubuntu 6.10 on my computer05:44
ScottA(dual booted)05:44
stefanoit's great05:44
ScottAand I cannot get KDE to start.05:44
stefanobut I have a strange problem with the wifi usb pen05:44
ScottA...05:44
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ScottAI did.05:44
intelikeyhmmm i don't see it05:45
stefanoafter few hours the connection drops down...and the pen is no more recognised until I restart05:45
Dr_willisScottA,  you mean when you get to the 'kdm login screen' you enter your user/password and what happens?05:45
purpleposeidonintelikey: "Why isn't KDE starting?"05:45
mathieu_ScottA: does the login manager start at all? (does X start)05:45
stefanoI thought I need the right driver05:45
ScottAI get the scott@Scott: prompt.05:45
intelikeypurpleposeidon you see that in what he said ?05:45
Dr_willisScottA,  has it EVER gotten to a pretty graphical Login screen ?05:46
ScottAno05:46
stefanoBut I'm not sure becouse of anyway the pen is recognised automatically...and works fine05:46
mathieu_ScottA: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log05:46
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ScottAhld05:46
purpleposeidonintelikey: is that not what he wants to know?05:46
mathieu_look for the (EE) (errors) lines05:46
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intelikeypurpleposeidon maybe.  are we supposed to guess that kind of thing?      ass-u-me it.05:47
ScottAback05:47
jefriwow, beryl is preety nice05:48
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mathieu_ScottA: so..?05:48
ScottAu want me to try that command?05:49
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ScottAbrb05:50
mathieu_yes this should output many lines to your screen which will help diagnose the problem05:50
ScottAthx.05:50
ScottAbrb05:50
intelikeysee05:50
mathieu_oh wow i thought he was on a diferent box heh05:51
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inteliwaspis there a way to force my processor on my laptop to maintain full speed?05:58
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ScottA_matheiu: I tried what you said. It said "Server Error: No screens found"05:59
ScottAthen just gave me the scott@Scott ~$: prompt again.06:00
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intelikeyScottA sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:00
intelikeyanswer all qestions carefully and correctly.06:00
flakesry if this is offtopic, but where can i find an irc dealing with art / acrylics?06:00
intelikeyflake /list *art*06:01
flakethank you06:01
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nick125_ls06:03
nick125_anyhere that can help me get sound juicer working with mp3>06:04
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Dr_willisHmm.. the kubuntu faq has some info on mp3 ussage with specific programs.06:22
Dr_willisnot sure if it mentions soundjuicer. (never used that one)06:23
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intelikeyJucato thank you.   and good by all you my friends in here.  i should spend not so much time in here henceforth.06:37
JucatoO.o06:37
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burepeI installed drupal with synaptic in ubuntu, but I don't know where it installed to. Anyone know?06:40
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noiesmoburepe, I think it goes into /usr/share06:43
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burepebut isn't apache at /var/www/? Do I move it there?06:44
noiesmoburepe, it does some fancy linking I thinks06:44
burepeCan I ask you a question about apache06:44
burepe?06:44
noiesmoburepe, any web apps like joomla,geelkog phpmyadmin i normally manually install download the source or zips and extract them were I want ie /var/www06:45
noiesmoburepe, ask away06:45
burepeI changed the apache2-default folder name bacause I wasn't sure where to put my site files and then I get access denied when going to http://localhost/06:46
burepeI think I changed the permissions when I changed the name06:46
burepeI changed it back though06:46
burepebut it is still like that06:46
burepeActually I might not have remembered the directory name corrrectly and that is the problem. Can you tell me the name of the Apache directory in /var/www/?06:47
noiesmoburepe, hmmm it should be apache2-default06:48
burepeok06:48
burepethen should I change the permissions?06:48
noiesmoburepe, ok lets check whats in /var/www/apache2-default is there an index.html file in there06:48
burepea bunch06:48
burepedifferent language ones06:49
burepeone sec06:49
noiesmoburepe, ok try http://localhost/index.html06:49
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noiesmoburepe, or try loading one thats there06:49
burepeaccess forbidden06:50
noiesmoburepe, your access denied might be because you are not allowed to list file only load if you know what I mean06:50
noiesmoburepe, did you put a .haccess file in there06:50
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momalanyone have any ideas on how i can disable all my usb ports? So people can't come and plug there ipod in and charge it from the computer ?... Without having to reboot to re-enable them.06:51
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burepeno but it was working before I changed the file name. It was like welcome to apache06:51
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noiesmoburepe, did you edit anything in /etc/apache2 folder06:51
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burepeno] 06:52
burepejust the name06:52
noiesmoburepe, this is the permisions etc on one my web folders drwxr-xr-x  21 www-data www-data    4096 2006-04-28 23:44 mambo06:52
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MukiEXHow do I run an X Window in a new display?06:53
momalburepe: what you mean you changed the name?06:53
MukiEXOh screw it, I'll just log in as a new person.06:53
burepei changed the directory name06:53
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noiesmoburepe, in any of the /etc/apache2 files also maybe restart apache06:54
momalor /etc/apache2? or folder where your webfiles are?06:54
burepefrom "apache2-default" to "apache"06:54
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burepein /var/www/06:54
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burepewhat is in /etc/apache2 ?06:55
momal/etc/apache2 = config files06:55
noiesmoburepe, /etc/apache2 is all the config files etc06:55
momalif you cahnged /var/www/apache2-default to just apache06:55
momalit means it slooking for apache2-default06:55
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momaluntil you cahnge it in the config files06:55
burepeI changed it aback after I got access denied but it is still not working06:56
burepebasically I got it all installed but I don't know how to use it. I don't even know where I put the files for my site.06:57
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ritalinhi06:57
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burepenoisemo should I change that directory's permissions to the one you told me?06:57
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momalburepe: want me to help set you up for apache ?06:58
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momal:p06:59
burepesure06:59
burepeI changed the apache2-default folder name bacause I wasn't sure where to put my site files and then I get access denied when going to http://localhost/07:00
burepeI set it up but then I messed it up :)07:00
momali'll talk via pm since i'll be pasting few big things :)07:00
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noiesmo!xgl | chrismo07:03
ubotuchrismo: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:03
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majnoon(ok if you asleep TALK UP )07:07
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MatthewI need help with my computer. I was watching a movie w/ kaffiene while try to un-rar a bunch of files...long story short, I had to do a hard restart, and now when I play a movie under anything, I get a blue box for video, but the sound is intact.07:08
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MatthewI'm using Dapper07:08
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MatthewI've already reinstalled Kaffeine and Xine, but that didn't help at all07:10
jbruckmanwhat's the package for xine mp3 supprt?07:10
Matthewjbruckman, try mpg12307:11
Matthewjbruckman, sudo apt-get install mpg12307:11
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jbruckmani thought it was something simple like libxine-extras07:11
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jbruckmanbut i can't remember exactly what it is07:12
RodimusPrimei am running kubuntu on amd athlon 6407:12
Matthewjbruckman, I just know that it works for me...07:12
RodimusPrimei tried installing azureus and it bombed07:12
jbruckmanmatther: ok, thanks.07:12
jbruckmanmatthew: ok, thanks.07:12
Matthewjbruckman, no prob...07:12
RodimusPrimewill azureus-gjc work ? ... I have read some issues with it stopping after a few minutes of download07:12
RodimusPrimeanyone experienced that ?07:12
burepemomal: I don't have my nic registered. I just want to make sure you can see what I wrote in the pm. can you?07:12
momalnope can't... but im writing up a quick tutorial for you :)07:13
jbruckmanmatthew: it can't find that package. I'm running kubuntu dapper, btw07:13
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momalso i'll link you once im done :)07:13
burepethanks07:13
MatthewI'm having trouble playing video w/ kaffiene. I had to do a hard reset whilst watching a movie, and now no video shows up, only audio comes through. I've already tried reinstalling kaffeine and xine...no help07:13
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Matthewjbruckman, let me take a look, brb07:13
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beauso this is where to get help eh?07:13
Matthewjbruckman, the command is sudo apt-get install mpg12307:14
jbruckmanMatthew: That's what I typed, and the mpg123 package can't be found.07:14
Matthewjbruckman, ok, do this instead...07:14
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jbruckmanMatthew: what repos are you using?07:14
Matthewjbruckman, you need to changes your sources.list file...do you know how to do that?07:15
Matthewjbruckman, I use all of them07:15
beauwell when you get a chance i have a question im unable to su to root from console i get wuth failure07:15
jbruckmanyeah, i think i forgot to add multiverse.07:15
jbruckmanone sec.07:15
beauauth i mean07:15
Matthewcan anyone help me w/ my problem?07:15
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noiesmo!root | beau07:15
ubotubeau: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:15
beauty07:16
noiesmonp07:16
Matthewok...no help to be found...hmmm07:17
beauawsome07:17
beauthat was easy07:17
Matthewjbruckman, did that work for you?07:17
jbruckmanMatthew: yeah, thanks a lot07:17
Matthewjbruckman, no problem07:17
Matthewhave fun!07:18
beauok so now eh is there a urpmi for Kubuntu?07:18
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noiesmoMatthew, maybe something happen to your kaffeine settings in your home folder does it work for other users07:18
beaui had installed for mandriva07:18
Matthewnoiesmo, I don't have any other users on my computer....perhaps I should create one and try that?07:18
noiesmoMatthew, wouldn't hurt07:19
Matthewnoiesmo, thanks, by the way.07:19
Matthewok...brb...07:19
noiesmobeau, maybe its like apt-get or aptitude07:19
noiesmobeau, type > man apt-get07:20
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noiesmobeau, here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:21
beauwow that gave me tons to look over07:22
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noiesmobeau, if you add universe and multiverse to each line in your sources.list that is not commented out then do apt-get update you will get access to many more packages but please note there are legal/copyright issues etc with them07:22
Admiral_Chicagogonzo?07:23
Admiral_Chicagomaikeru: there you are07:23
beauwow so hmmmm thats alot07:23
beauso to get a pkg from the console id type apt-get amarok ?07:24
noiesmosudo apt-get install amarok07:24
beauinstall i got it..see amarok wont play streaming audio for me07:24
beauthe play list downloads and all the song title shows up but no sound07:25
beaui got system sounds so thats ok but not on amarok07:25
noiesmothen you can do sudo apt-cache search amarok see what other packages referance to amarok07:25
olegfinkwhat a dull thing: in edgy liblablgtk-ocaml depends on unexistent ocaml-base-nox-3.09.1 while in feisty on normal 3.09.207:26
maikeruAdmiral_Chicago  Yeah Im here07:26
olegfinkand they say they cannot fix it ;)07:26
Matthewnoiesmo, I tried it under another user, and it didn't work...got an audio driver problem07:26
beaujust the arts and xine engines came up07:26
beaui got that those already from adept07:27
beaulol07:27
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noiesmoMatthew, well its not profile related have you tried another player enven if having to install does sound work normally07:27
noiesmobeau, for streaming I use streamtuner havent tried stream thru amarok but use amarok for me mp3's07:28
Matthewnoiesmo, I tried other players, but they just shutdown right after they are initialized, and there is usually sound w/ kaffiene.07:28
Matthewbeau, you might be interested in using xmms to stream music...07:29
noiesmoMatthew, man that kinda suks, do you get or any sound is it system wide07:30
chrismoMatthew: maybe you need to covert the video to Ogg07:30
beauill try that man you guys are so helpfull07:30
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Matthewnoiesmo, no I get sound when I stream vids online...and I also get sound when I play movies, just no video output07:30
beauOMG!!!!!! ITS WORKING THANK YOU!!!!!07:30
user____07:31
beaugee wiz that was so easy07:31
user____  07:31
Matthewlol @ beau07:31
Matthewin a nice way07:31
beauhahaha07:31
beaunow i can listen to the air traffic controllers07:32
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noiesmoMatthew, in kaffeine under xine-engine paramaters have you check video settings etc maybe try some others07:32
lascarevening/morning to all07:32
Matthewnoiesmo, nah, I already took a look, it looks fine (although I'm really not an expert...)07:33
Matthewchrismo, nope, I've been watching .avi movies for about a month now07:33
noiesmoMatthew, same sorry maybe someone will come on line later that knows07:33
user____faq07:33
Matthewnoiesmo, oh well, thanks so much for your help anyways!07:33
noiesmonp07:33
user____mae  fake07:34
Matthewnoiesmo, If I can't find a solution, I'll just reinstall Kubuntu...no biggie07:34
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Byanmy sound doesn't work..07:34
Byanhow do I fix it?07:34
noiesmoByan, type alsamixer in terminal07:35
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lascarwho knows a really good bitorrent client for linux, besides Azureus and Ktorrent?07:35
jeismaisi t possible to password-protect folders on kubuntu?07:35
noiesmolascar, i use bittornado find it goood07:36
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Byannoiesmo: it uses the wrong device07:36
lascarnoiesmo: i'll give it a try07:36
noiesmolascar,  bittornado-gui - bittorrent client with enhanced GUI interface07:36
noiesmoByan, ok what sound card you got07:37
lascarnoiesmo: roger that07:37
Byannoiesmo: SB live07:37
noiesmoByan, type lspci in terminal and see if it tells you what sonund card is07:37
noiesmoByan, have you got onbaord as well07:37
jeismayou can't password protect folders?07:37
Byannoiesmo: it does and alsamixer -c 1 opens up that device07:38
noiesmoByan, maybe you need to disable onboard card in bios07:38
beauyou guys are too smart07:38
Byannoiesmo: I don't have to do that in windows07:38
Byanhow do I select the SB live07:38
Byanmake it primary, ect.07:38
lotusleafjeisma: kgpg may be what you're looking for07:38
noiesmoByan, i don't care about windows07:38
beauno one does really07:39
beaulol07:39
jeismalotusleaf what is that?07:39
lotusleaf!kgpg07:39
ubotukgpg: GnuPG frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 445 kB, installed size 1404 kB07:39
lotusleafjeisma: something which does what you're looking for, and then some07:39
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jeismalotusleaf: how do i go about installing it?07:39
Byannoiesmo: my point is that, the device is installed, and working, there is no reason for me to have to disable my integrated in order to use my PCI card07:39
lotusleafjeisma: are you using kubuntu?07:40
beaui had a weird problem with ubuntu..when i ran the live cd it stopped my cpu fan07:40
jeismalotusleaf: yes07:40
lotusleafjeisma: well from the command line you can type sudo apt-get install kgpg07:40
lotusleafjeisma: or in your package manager (Adept or Synaptic whichever one you use) you can search for and install it from there.07:40
noiesmoByan, i was only joking i don't know how to set it with alsa but htats just what id do as if i have a sound live i wouldnt be using my onboard on anyway07:40
jeisma!crash07:41
ubotudebug is ~= /.//07:41
jeismawaht do i do when this happen07:41
jeismajeisma@Kubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install kgpg07:41
jeismaPassword:07:41
jeismaE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)07:41
jeismaE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?07:41
Jucatonot again?07:41
Jucato!adept crash fix | jeisma07:41
ubotujeisma: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'07:41
jeismawhy does that happen often?07:42
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lotusleafjeisma: I don't know, I use Synaptic in Kubuntu :)07:42
jeismalotusleaf: now that i installed it, now how do i use it?07:42
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lotusleafjeisma: first you want to make your own gpg key07:43
jeismak how?07:43
lotusleafjeisma: plz join #kubuntu-offtopic07:43
jeismaha how do i do that?07:44
lotusleaftype /join #kubuntu-offtopic07:44
Jucatojeisma: it happens when Adept (or apt-get) is suddenly closed when it's still doing something07:44
jeismaok i'm in there07:44
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tony__hi guys...i am a complete noob trying to shed myself of windows completely..i have downloaded adobe flash player for a website..and it says i can't simply run the installer from a gui...but have to do it in konsole..i'm using edgy eft...any help?07:45
tony__i have the installer in this file..../home/tony/downloads/install_flash_player_7_linux07:46
lascarbittornado blows07:46
tony__try azureus..it's a good torrent program07:47
lascartony: did you extract the installer07:47
lascartony: no thanx07:47
tony__yes...extracted and everything07:47
tony__here's the point i'm having trouble with "Navigate to this directory and from the command line type ./flashplayer-installer to run the installer (Note: this can only be run from the command line)"07:48
tony__how do i navigate to that folder in konsole?07:48
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beaucd07:49
lascartony: yeah, what beau said07:49
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vadertony__, what I would do is cd Desktop/<package>07:49
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beaui would do a pwd from the console then change to the right /dir with cd07:50
beauof use ls from the home /dir07:50
lascardoes anyone know any other bittorrent clients besides Azureus, Ktorrent, and Bittornado?07:50
beauto see your correct path07:50
Admiral_Chicagoi want a script to run everytime KDE is starts. i have it in the directory, and everything. i just need to set the permissions07:50
tony__woohoo..thanks guys07:50
beaunp07:50
tony__cd...i should have remembered that from my dos days!!07:51
Admiral_Chicagowhat's the command chmod...07:51
beauchmod changes file permission07:51
beauexample chmod ugo+wrx fill name07:51
beauwould gve user group owner permission to read write and exeute07:51
beauor chown really does the same07:52
beaui think07:52
beaui just use chmod07:52
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tony__it looks like it worked...thanks guys...07:53
lascar!bittorrent07:53
ubotubittorrent: Scatter-gather network file transfer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.2-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 90 kB, installed size 556 kB07:53
beauno prob tony07:53
lascar::bows::07:53
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beauits gotten quiet08:02
unix_infidelbeau: that just means people are enjoying their OS instead of trying to learn new and awersome l33t compile time flagz0rs08:04
beauhahaha08:04
beautrue true08:04
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Jucatolol08:04
Jucatoor they're spending time reading on how to do those awesome l33t compile time flagz0rs08:04
beauor surfing p-ron08:05
beaulol08:05
Admiral_Chicagoi'm converting mp3s to .ogg what should be teh bit rate etc08:06
unix_infidelAdmiral_Chicago: depends, how sensitive are your ears.08:06
beauid stick with orignial08:06
seven11error on apt-get update08:06
seven11Err http://au.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages08:06
seven11  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)08:06
beaujust to be safe08:06
unix_infideli know people who dont know the difference b/e properly enocoded 96 and 32008:06
Admiral_Chicagounix_infidel: not that sensitive. i think i'd like to keep the current encoding08:06
unix_infidelAdmiral_Chicago: i believe there are some conversion scripts out there.08:07
unix_infidelyou just define the proper options.08:07
Admiral_Chicagobasically i would like the oggs to be smaller than the mp3s and same quality08:07
Admiral_Chicagounix_infidel: soundconvertor is the package08:07
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Admiral_Chicagoso keep the same amount?08:07
unix_infidelAdmiral_Chicago: like i said, can you tell the difference b/w the current bitrate, lower bitrate or VBC?08:08
unix_infidelerm VBR08:08
Admiral_Chicagoi don't even know what that means...08:08
unix_infidelvariable bit rate.08:08
unix_infidelhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_bitrate08:09
Admiral_Chicagono no i mean i know what it is, just not the difference08:09
unix_infideldif b/w CBR and VBR?08:09
Admiral_Chicagoerr give me a sec08:10
seven11anyone a idea about the update error Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)08:10
beauwhat did you type in?08:10
Admiral_Chicagoi'm just going to go with 192 kbps08:11
seven11sudo apt-get update08:11
beauwow its working for me.....your trying to use gzip?08:12
beauor update it?08:12
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seven11i get Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)      on some packages when i do sudo apt-get update08:13
beauwow08:13
beauwht pkg areyou trying to get?08:13
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seven11just update my package list08:14
burepe!skype] 08:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about skype]  - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:14
beaui dont know man its working for me08:14
burepe!skype08:14
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto08:14
beauweird08:14
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beaui wish i could send email on my unix accnt08:18
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jorge__HOLA08:19
beauhola08:19
sukka-4-luvwhat a kick in the face08:19
jorge__necesito ayuda urgente de kubuntu08:19
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jorge__alguien me puede ayudar?08:19
beauoh man08:19
beauwhats a kick i nthe face?08:19
Admiral_Chicago!es | jorge__08:19
ubotujorge__: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.08:19
sukka-4-luvreactos08:19
sukka-4-luvit works08:20
jorge__ok gracias08:20
sukka-4-luvits windoze, yet its not08:20
beaupuke08:20
beaui totaly dropped windoze08:20
sukka-4-luvme too08:20
beauafter it locked me out and woldnt take my key08:20
beauthat was on the box08:20
sukka-4-luvbut its a gnu/gpl type of windows08:20
beaui said pee on it08:20
sukka-4-luvsssssssssssssssssss08:21
sukka-4-luvpissin on m$08:21
sukka-4-luvshake, shake08:21
beaudrip drip08:21
sukka-4-luvits kinda neet08:21
beauwhere you get it from?08:21
sukka-4-luvreactos.org... alpha only08:22
beaukoo il lgive a look see08:22
sukka-4-luvlinux is still supreem08:22
beaumaybe im trying to send email with my unix accnt and its not orking08:22
beauyeha linux is the kill08:22
sukka-4-luvf-unix08:22
sukka-4-luvgo bsd08:22
beauits a free shell accnt08:23
Jucatouh oh...08:23
sukka-4-luvwhat uh oh08:23
beaukernel panic?08:23
Jucatoanyone else notified of an xorg update?08:23
sukka-4-luvyeeowza08:23
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beauno xorg update08:23
Jucatoxserver-xorg08:23
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sukka-4-luvnegatory08:23
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Jucatohm...08:23
sukka-4-luvkde 4 up n runnin08:25
beaueh question how to use finger command from console?08:25
beaui cant hit nothing but myself08:25
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sukka-4-luvfor finger to work you need to know a user08:26
beauim trying to hit a eh place08:26
sukka-4-luvuse whois first08:27
beaufrom console?08:27
sukka-4-luvyup08:27
sukka-4-luvkonsole08:27
beaubash: whois: command not found08:27
beaueh o.008:27
sukka-4-luvim thinkin old unix commands08:28
sukka-4-luvsorry08:28
sukka-4-luvwhosi bau08:28
sukka-4-luv#whois beau08:29
beaureturn 008:29
beaujust gives me a new line08:29
sukka-4-luvwhois google.com08:30
sukka-4-luvtry that08:30
beaui tried with the # symbol and i get nothing08:30
beaujust a new line08:30
sukka-4-luvjust whosis08:31
beaumaybe i need to be root?08:31
beauwhen i try just whois i gt command not found08:31
beaunot as root neither :(08:31
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sukka-4-luvfinger works fine08:32
beaucrap08:32
beaui suck08:32
sukka-4-luvsuck no, new es08:33
korysudo apt-get install whois08:33
sukka-4-luvyes08:33
sukka-4-luvno08:33
beauits going08:33
sukka-4-luvtype this command: whois yahoo.com08:33
beausweet i looked for it on adept abnd it didnt show08:33
beauAWSOME08:33
beauthanx kory08:33
beauim rocking now08:34
koryanytime... used to be in by default... wasn't in Dapper either I think08:34
beauyah i noticed i had to install finger08:34
beauwhois didnt show up on adept08:34
koryI wonder if there's a network tools meta package out there08:35
beauthe Konsole is king08:35
sukka-4-luvdamn skippy08:35
sukka-4-luvim fingering yahoo08:35
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beauim under the impression of this windows is a lazy mans OS08:35
beauon linux you have to lean stuff or your screwed08:35
beaujust a thought08:36
korywell, Windows is made with the lowest common denominator in mind08:36
beauhahaha08:36
beauand most MAC ppl are snobs08:36
beauim on a mac i cant get a virus08:36
sukka-4-luvif it werent for low class... windoze'd have no class08:36
beauWTFE08:36
beaumacs geez08:36
sukka-4-luvhey, i resent that... my mac runs bsd08:36
beaumine runs OS X08:37
beaulol08:37
koryyou should check your filters in Adept... I mean, CLI is faster, but whois does show up08:37
sukka-4-luvyers runs bsd too08:37
beauill be dogged its coming08:37
beauup08:37
sukka-4-luvi have abolutley no respect for apple08:38
beaumaybe i mistyped earlier08:38
beauyou have an ipod?08:38
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sukka-4-luvme?08:39
beauyes08:40
sukka-4-luvyeah, its defective by design08:40
beautotaly and it costs more to fix than you pay for it08:40
beaudont get a zune those things are drab08:40
sukka-4-luvzune is M$ ware08:40
beauill stick to players that want you to use their music service08:40
beaudint*08:41
beaudont*08:41
sukka-4-luvf-that, i got a zen too08:41
beaui got a philips08:41
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sukka-4-luvcreative supports open-source08:41
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sukka-4-luvsunset, yer an aussie eh?08:42
sukka-4-luvgotta love whis08:43
beaugood stuff08:43
sukka-4-luvgood ol unix commands, brings a tear to my eye08:44
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beauwindows commands brings a pain to my stomach08:45
beaulol08:45
sukka-4-luvinformation is power08:45
beaumitnick is king08:46
beauwas anyway08:46
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sukka-4-luvlets bring fortran back08:47
beauoh god not that08:47
beaui can barely do php08:47
sukka-4-luvfortran old but still powerful08:48
beauyes it is i tried to learn it08:48
beaua long with many others08:48
sukka-4-luvif u learn fortran, everything else is ez08:48
beaugot that right08:49
sukka-4-luvwell xept pytjon08:49
sukka-4-luvpython08:49
beaunighmare08:49
beaui cant wait till my das keyboard shows up08:49
sukka-4-luvi got this python book, its like 14 inches thick, 3000+ pages08:49
beauWOW08:50
sukka-4-luvand im only on page 308:50
beaudang08:50
RodimusPrimeermm in order to play movies in a amd64 what codecs do i need ?08:50
sukka-4-luv2997 more to go08:50
RodimusPrimei can't play my movies08:50
beauwhat player you using?08:50
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RodimusPrimebeau, tried kmplayer, and kaffiene08:51
sukka-4-luvdo what i do... vmware to run windoze in linux08:51
RodimusPrimebeau, now trying to install vlc08:51
beauok08:51
RodimusPrimebeau, which one works ?08:51
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RodimusPrimetried downloading the codecs from mplayer.hu but it doesn't work either08:51
beaui dontdo movies i play one ok and i get the fbi warning and nothing else p;lays no menus or anything08:51
beaui was using kaffine08:51
sukka-4-luvi use totem08:52
RodimusPrimebeau, codecs ?08:52
sukka-4-luvndiswrapper08:52
beaudont know about codes mine just works partway08:52
sukka-4-luvuse ndiswrapper... with win32 codecs08:52
beauyour smart sukka08:53
beaudamn guru08:53
sukka-4-luvwho me???08:53
beauyeah you08:53
sukka-4-luvnah, im a noob too08:53
RodimusPrimesukka-4-luv, that will work with amd64 even ?08:53
sukka-4-luvi just read alot08:53
sukka-4-luvthe answer to that i dont kow08:53
beauim a n00b too real n00b b4 i got kubuntu i had mandriva08:53
RodimusPrimesukka-4-luv, just install ndiswrapper ? or do i need to do some stuff08:53
beaubeforethat i had mandrak 1008:53
sukka-4-luvu go beau08:53
sukka-4-luvkubuntu rox08:54
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beauKubuntu is the bomb08:54
beaujust installed it today08:54
sukka-4-luvi did this sudo apt-get ndiswrapper and then did a re-config08:54
beaumy official cd arrived08:54
sukka-4-luvi d/l mine08:54
sukka-4-luvin 40 mins in bsd08:55
beaui did that too but i got an I/O error during butn08:55
beauburn08:55
Byananyone have any ideas -> http://rafb.net/paste/results/QnQGdk89.html08:55
sukka-4-luv4.21 gigs... and then gnome-toasted it08:55
beaui got open bsd too but it wouldnt boot from cd :(08:55
sukka-4-luvi installed freebsd over nfs08:56
sukka-4-luvstr8 to the raid08:56
sukka-4-luvre-boot... re-stripe08:56
unix_infidelsukka-4-luv: you've tried the fbsd live cd?08:56
beauspeaking of raid i got 3 HDDS in here and cant access my 3rd the storage drive08:56
sukka-4-luvtook 98 hrs... 2.335 tb of raid 008:56
beau2 TB GAWD!!!!08:57
sukka-4-luvultra 3 scsi08:57
sukka-4-luvyeah, i gotta biiiiiiiiiiiiiiig raid08:57
beaui guess08:57
sukka-4-luv1.92 taken up08:57
beauoh lord08:57
beauyour.....the internet08:57
unix_infidelthis is a personal raid array?"08:58
sukka-4-luvim the moovie king08:58
unix_infidelholy jebus.08:58
sukka-4-luvyeah08:58
sukka-4-luvi bought it from my last job08:58
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sukka-4-luvcheep too08:58
beauso you got ftp set up08:58
beaui could use some movies08:58
unix_infidelsukka-4-luv: how much for the entire setup and racks?08:58
sukka-4-luvraid is local only08:58
beau$hit08:58
sukka-4-luvi think i spent about 3000 for the hdd array... 8u rackmount, mylex controller08:59
beaudewd im so moving in with you LOL08:59
sukka-4-luv22 hdds hot swappable08:59
unix_infidelwow, that's rediculously cheap.08:59
unix_infidelyou could've made mad profit on it.08:59
sukka-4-luvyeah, but its mine, all mine09:00
beauMWWWAAAHAHAHAH09:00
sukka-4-luvmy boss paid something lik 350k on it09:00
sukka-4-luvgotta lovechapter 13 bankrupsy... plus my boss is also a long-time fam friend09:01
beaunice09:01
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beaui need some rack mount going on09:01
sukka-4-luvi had to buy 3 g4s, and the raid in a complete package09:01
beauor maybe a 1 TB i nthe ole fullsize tower09:01
sukka-4-luvdont uss ide... its not worth the headache09:02
beaurack mount then09:02
sukka-4-luvi also have 3 sun ultra sparc 1u blades as well09:02
beauyour......the architect09:03
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sukka-4-luvnah... im waiting on a T3 install from phone company09:03
sukka-4-luvthen were in bidness09:03
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beauwe got those at work....and i trbl shoot em for covad09:03
beaulol09:03
sukka-4-luvcovad... what a joke09:04
B-Minushello09:04
beauyeah but they pay me good09:04
B-Minushow can i make my ext3 larger ? i want to cut off some windows space09:04
sukka-4-luvi work 4 lucent, mebbe u heard of em09:04
B-Minusis there a graphical tool for that ,09:04
beauyes there is09:04
B-Minuso09:04
sukka-4-luvqt[arteed09:04
beaui might have sukka im not sure tho09:04
sukka-4-luvqtparted09:04
beaulol09:04
B-Minustnx09:05
sukka-4-luvme mom got me the job 10 yrs ago09:05
beaubrb need go juice09:05
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sukka-4-luvb-minus a word of caution tho... u may dammage the windoze partition09:07
sukka-4-luvthe only reason i have windoze, is o i can pee on it09:08
lotusleafwhat's a leaf to do to install compiz in kubuntu edgy? I don't see a compiz-kde package as listed in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz , I asked in #ubuntu-xgl with no response so I'm asking here =)09:09
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B-Minuswell i dont care to damage the windows part :p09:09
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sukka-4-luvthen by all means... kill windoze09:10
sukka-4-luvclick, click... BOOM09:10
B-Minusdamn i cant remove the nfts partition it says its mounted lol09:11
B-Minusbut its not09:11
sukka-4-luvunmount it09:11
sukka-4-luvgrub automounts all paritions09:11
B-Minustommy@tommy-laptop:~/eigenbestanden/bordermaker_25$ sudo umount /dev/hda809:12
B-MinusPassword:09:12
B-Minusumount: /: device is busy09:12
B-Minusumount: /: device is busy09:12
B-Minus:(09:12
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korylotusleaf: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL09:14
lotusleafkory: thanks, is that compiz though of for beryl?09:14
lotusleafof=or*09:14
MatthewI need some help with xine, or maybe the problem lies within kaffeine. I am unable to watch the video from .avi's, although I _can_ hear the audio. I am also able to watch .mpeg's. My problem started when I did a hard restart of my system while watching a movie. I've already reinstalled xine and kaffeine. I don't know what else to do, short of reinstalling the OS. I'm using dapper09:15
koryyeah, sorry... beryl09:15
lotusleafkory: I wanted to try compiz in the ubuntu repos and not beryl, but I appreciate your helpful link, thank you =)09:15
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korynever got compiz working right from any of the wiki entries... beryl from that link worked perfect09:15
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lotusleafkory: ya, and considering the wiki suggests compiz-kde which doesn't even exist in edgy.... ;)09:16
lotusleafkory: I guess I will have to try beryl09:16
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koryonly thing I noticed using beryl in KDE... if I ran "beryl-manager" from either the Kmenu or Alt+F2 (run command) it wouldn't work... if I ran it from a terminal it ran fine09:17
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sukka-4-luv  i get that same error09:18
koryalso, I had to make sure to switch back to Kwin before I shut down beryl, otherwise when it came back up, it wouldn't work09:18
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sukka-4-luvi got some odd crashes in beryl... im starting to come around to vmware09:19
lotusleafkory: thx for the tips :)09:19
lotusleafsukka-4-luv: ya, that's why I wanted to check out compiz instead =) Oh well09:20
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sukka-4-luvbut it just dont work in ubuntu... i got a deb file... but the dependencies are all broken09:20
sukka-4-luvvmware is sometimes a lil pissy too09:21
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beauhm09:23
Kubohi09:23
MatthewI need some help with xine, or maybe the problem lies within kaffeine. I am unable to watch the video from .avi's, although I _can_ hear the audio. I am also able to watch .mpeg's. My problem started when I did a hard restart of my system while watching a movie. I've already reinstalled xine and kaffeine. I don't know what else to do, short of reinstalling the OS. I'm using dapper.09:23
sukka-4-luvthis python book is makin me all sleepy09:25
Kuboitaliani????09:25
JackPhilhi, which framebuffer parameter(vga)  is for 1280x800?09:25
koryMatthew: sounds like you might need the video codecs... AVI is just a wrapper, I usually see divx as video and mp3 as audio...09:25
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Matthewkory, The problem is that I was able to watch .avi's before the restart.09:26
Matthewkory, you've just inspired me to un/re install the codecs through automatix...thank you09:27
koryMatthew: what changed before the restart?09:27
sukka-4-luvooooh... lasagne ready, time for the fourthmeal09:27
MatthewIt was a hard restart, I did it because my computer froze up...I was watching a movie and decompressing about 50 files at once...obviously I didn't realise there were going to be so many...oh well. My machine is only a 930 Mhz box w/ 512 RAM...09:28
koryyeah, Automatix makes it really easy... just a pain when you go to dist-upgrade... third-party apps can cause some problems... as you may have read about when everyone installed Edgy09:28
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sukka-4-luvi still have flash probs09:29
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sukka-4-luvcant get ndiswrapper around that either09:29
Matthewkory, I had the same problem...and I'm pretty happy w/ dapper...no real reason to go to edgy...although I'll get there eventually09:29
sukka-4-luvim gonna write a python script for it and give it 4 free... linux runnin windoze apps09:30
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koryI think Edgy is much better... but I installed every new version of KDE to Dapper and it made some things worse...09:30
korysukka-4-luv: flash + ndiswrapper?09:30
sukka-4-luvi put KDE4 on dapper and had a meltdown09:30
Matthewkory, I'm using KDE 3.5.509:30
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sukka-4-luvyeah but i just cant get it to work09:31
koryyeah, I was up to that on Dapper as well... some things worked better, some things didn't... 3.5.5 in Edgy is much better09:31
sukka-4-luvand pythons bein a prick09:31
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Matthewmaybe I'll give it a shot when I reinstall...09:32
Matthewis it more resource hungry?09:32
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koryshouldn't need ndiswrapper at all... I use the latest flash 9 beta (2?) and it works great... just download the .so file from Adobe and put it into your plugins directory09:32
sukka-4-luvried that, didnt work09:32
sukka-4-luvtried09:32
sukka-4-luvcrashed my system out09:33
koryyou're on Edgy?09:33
sukka-4-luvkernel panick09:33
sukka-4-luvyup09:33
Matthewkory, is Edgy a resource hog?09:33
koryhmm... crazy... I know the default flash crashed my Firefox... but with 9 beta it worked great...09:33
koryMatthew: seems to work just as fine or better than Dapper09:34
sukka-4-luvbeta 9 caused firefox to initiate the kernel panick09:34
sukka-4-luvso i just said f-it... started running vmware09:35
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Matthewkory, I think I'll give it a shot...gonna d/l it right now09:35
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koryMatthew: I would do a clean install if you've used things like Automatix09:35
sukka-4-luvmebbe ill try a top re-compile.... aint exactly legal, but it just might work09:36
Matthewkory, yeah, that's what I'll do...09:36
sukka-4-luvgotta love visual c09:36
Matthewgonna be a bi@tch, though...I've got 80 Gigs worth of media on here...oh well09:36
sukka-4-luvmove it to yer raid09:37
Matthewkory, is edgy 6.10?09:37
koryI have a 250GB HDD... just made the root 20Gb (more than enough) and gave /home the rest... so you can do a clean install without losing your home directory09:37
koryyeah, edgy 6.1009:38
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Matthewkory, actually, that's what I did too...except made the /home partition on a 200G HDD09:38
Matthewyay! I won't lose anything!09:38
Matthewexcept apps...but that's no big09:38
koryoh, yeah... so when you install, just format the root partition and make sure to leave /home alone09:38
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Matthewkory, what's the story with all the different directories on different partitions? how big should each be?09:39
sukka-4-luvdammitt... it wont de-compile09:39
Matthewkory, apps from automatix don't get installed in the /home dir, do they?09:39
sukka-4-luvawww fiddlestix09:39
Matthew!partitions09:40
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks09:40
koryno... shouldn't have more than the log file09:40
Matthewkory, ok, thanks...gonna go do that now...09:40
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Matthewkory, well, I actually have to wait for the d/l to finish...09:41
sukka-4-luvim tryin a de-compile of flash09:41
unix_infideldecompile flash?09:41
Matthewsukka-4-luv, good luck w/ that09:41
sukka-4-luvyup09:41
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unix_infidelyea, that aint gonna happen.09:41
sukka-4-luvill crack it09:41
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Matthewsukka-4-luv, when you finally do, be sure to send me a copy...lol09:41
koryMatthew: you should only need to seperate root and home... other directories for different purposes... like if you were running a web server, you might to limit /var09:41
unix_infidelmake sure you upload the exploit to the proper research framework.09:41
Matthewkory, ah, ok...how big should the /root dir be?09:42
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unix_infideli'm sure the community would like to see how you cracked the industry standard in obfuscating content09:42
unix_infidelLOL09:42
Matthewkory, I've got a 30 gig master and 200 gig slave09:42
Matthewkory, the /home is on the 200 gigger09:42
sukka-4-luvwhen theres a will... theres a way09:42
koryhmm... depends on how much you install... I think it takes up at least 3-4Gb... I don't think I've ever had it more than that...09:42
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korysounds good... make one drive /root and the other /home... shouldn't have any problems09:43
sukka-4-luvalls i want is the code09:43
Matthewkory, so I'd be ok with 5 gigs? or should I make the 30 gig the /root? oops, you answered my question09:43
sukka-4-luvgimme the code09:43
Matthewkory, thanks so much for helping me out. I really appreciate it09:43
unix_infidelsukka-4-luv: what are you trying to hack again?09:43
unix_infidelwhat flash content09:43
sukka-4-luvflash09:43
koryno prob09:43
unix_infidelerm object09:43
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sukka-4-luvi did it once... ill be darned if i dont do it again09:44
unix_infidelpaste the url to the object.09:44
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sukka-4-luvive busted the windows so called kernel wide open09:45
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sukka-4-luvso flash should pose no real problem09:45
sukka-4-luvthe trick is remembering how i did it09:45
sukka-4-luvcurse you mother nature... im suffering from a serious case of CRS09:46
Matthewsukka-4-luv, see anything interesting in the windows kernel? I know that there is some BSD code for some of the network functions...09:46
Matthewlike ping09:46
RamiKassabhey guys I just installed kubuntu on an HP ZT3000 with an ATI video card and it the resolution was fine the first time Kubuntu loaded but when I came to reboot, everything was messed up and I couldn't even us the comp cause I couldn't see anything on the screen. I found a how-to on setting the gfx card up on the laptop at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide and followed it to install xorg-driver-fglrx but09:46
RamiKassab now when the laptop boots up I see a bunch of random colors, lines, and shades, is there a way I can, during the bootup process, tell Kubuntu not to load X so I can get to a command prompt and try to fix the issue? If so, how. Any help is much appreciated. Thank you!09:46
MatthewRamiKassab, hit ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a CLI09:47
sukka-4-luvi should post the code for windows on a website09:47
unix_infidelsukka-4-luv: just make sure you make it public :)09:47
RamiKassabMatthew: forgot to mention that when I do that nothing happends09:47
RamiKassabMatthew: it won't load any of the TTY consoles for m09:47
RamiKassabme09:47
sukka-4-luvput it on M$ website09:48
RamiKassabis there a way to tell X not to load through Grub?09:48
sukka-4-luvthatll get some attnion09:48
MatthewRamiKassab, hmmm, I'm out of my league already...sorry. you might try using a liveCD to change settings.09:48
sukka-4-luvattention09:48
joheyWhen updating the latest patches using Adept, I get a lot of messages like "Incorrect nice value. Please enter an integer value between -20 and 19." What is this all about?09:49
sukka-4-luvit looks a lot like old basic programming... call_sub this, cal line that09:49
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sukka-4-luvno wonder M$ products are so vulnerable09:49
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MatthewJust because Vista is the most secure version of windows doesn't make it secure.09:50
unix_infidelsukka-4-luv: by all means put the kernel code up, see what happens.09:51
sukka-4-luvwin32 goes down09:51
Matthewsukka-4-luv, I think it's against the EULA of Windows to decompile the kernel....09:51
Matthewjust a heads-up09:51
unix_infideldoubtful, the entire OS is built around an arcane kernel.09:51
sukka-4-luvim lookin at the code now09:51
unix_infidelits the environment code that counts.09:51
Matthewunix_infidel, what do you mean?09:52
sukka-4-luvbut im notrunnin windoze... so eula aint apt09:52
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Matthewsukka-4-luv, oh, that makes sense, I guess09:52
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unix_infidelMatthew: i mean i the linux kernel werent GPL, how much work do you think could get done.09:52
sukka-4-luvi feel its my right to see what it looks like09:52
Matthewunix_infidel, that's very true09:52
unix_infidelbut say, just today, sukka-4-luv posted the closed source of the linux kernel, how much do you think the community could get done without the rest of the code.09:53
sukka-4-luvnot much09:53
unix_infidelassuming all the apps associated with a distribution were closed as well.09:53
Matthewsukka-4-luv, why do you feel that it's your right? You didn't _pay_ for it. (I really don't care, just playing devils advocate)09:53
sukka-4-luvim only lookin at the kernel09:53
unix_infidelplus, flash development is a LOT more specialized.09:53
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sukka-4-luvand i did pay for it... it came with my computer09:54
unix_infidelas2 is a whole different monster, you cant "crack" it per se.09:54
Matthewunix_infidel, ok, I'm starting to see where you're coming from...it's a happy place, where everything is FAOS09:54
unix_infidelonly get fragments here and fragments there that you try to link together.09:54
sukka-4-luvif i buy it... i feel its my right to inspect it09:54
naddarhi all09:54
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sukka-4-luvtheres more to windoze than just the kernel09:54
unix_infidelcontent managing flash is easy to crack.09:54
unix_infidelyour just trying to find the source content.09:55
Matthewsukka-4-luv, you know, Dell and some other computer companies will give you a rebate/discount if you don't use Windows...I remember reading about it on digg.com09:55
sukka-4-luvnope, i change my assertation09:55
naddarMatthew: thanks for the info :) diddent know that09:55
sukka-4-luvflash is posing more trouble than its worth09:55
sukka-4-luvat least for now...09:55
Matthewnaddar, be prepared for a battle, cause you have to start out with *gasp* customer support techs09:56
unix_infidelsukka-4-luv: like i said.  if you ever "crack it" let me know :P09:56
unix_infidelLOL09:56
Matthewwho don't know what linux is.09:56
sukka-4-luvlinux is whats gonna kick M$ trash to the curb09:56
sukka-4-luvsupport open standards09:57
Matthewsukka-4-luv, already has, MS is just a dead-man-walking...as it were09:57
naddarGASP ??????09:57
sukka-4-luvamen brotha09:57
Matthewnaddar, oh yes, gassp09:57
noiesmoMatthew, http://www.netcraft.com.au/geoffrey/09:57
noiesmoMatthew, money back on win xp09:57
Matthewnoiesmo, thanks for the direct link...checking it out now...09:57
sukka-4-luvgates owes me big time, and to think im from Redmond09:57
Matthewnoiesmo, is that the guy from australia?09:58
noiesmoMatthew, pretty sure09:58
Matthewyep, already read it...although, thanks for the link...09:58
sukka-4-luvwindows=dos dos=crappy busted down unix shell09:58
Matthewnoiesmo, oh, and I figured out that I can play .mpeg's, just not .avi's...bummer, huh?09:58
noiesmoMatthew, bummer to the max09:59
sukka-4-luvi ferget how i got avi to play in totem09:59
naddarMatthew: why i have to prepar, my work give me all the ms os free :) with license so fuck them :)09:59
Matthewnoiesmo, gonna install edgy over dapper, but it's cool, cause I've got my /home on a different drive10:00
sukka-4-luvgates can sit on my middle finger and rotate10:00
naddarMatthew: i have them all original10:00
Matthew!etiquette | naddar10:00
ubotunaddar: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !AskTheBot - and most importantly, use common sense :-)10:00
Matthew!language10:00
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:00
noiesmoMatthew, sweet10:00
Matthewnoiesmo, yeah, I really lucked out...10:00
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naddarsorry :)10:01
Matthewnoiesmo, so, where you from? I'm in USA, California, Humboldt County, Fortuna.10:01
sukka-4-luvenuf M$ bashin10:01
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sukka-4-luvim sorry all... M$ just really angers me10:01
noiesmoMatthew, it's odd thing to happen with you avi playback. I'm brisbane australia10:01
Matthewaddressed to everyone: here is a direct link to the money back for windows thing: http://www.netcraft.com.au/geoffrey/toshiba.html10:01
Matthewnoiesmo, yeah, but I figure, hey, why not upgrade to edgy anyway, you know?10:02
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sukka-4-luvso yer sayin i can get toshiba to refund the price of win-xp to me... sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet10:02
naddaranyone know a good server to add in my sources.list to install mplayer?10:02
noiesmoMatthew, Yeah I did about a month ago, got everything sorted again after upgrade so its all good10:03
Matthewsukka-4-luv, maybe, this guy was getting a refund for Win98...they may have changed the EULA...10:04
sukka-4-luvthats lik 100 bux in my pocket10:04
Matthewwhoops...Win9510:04
sukka-4-luvfiddlestix10:04
noiesmonaddar, you need to enable multiverse repos10:04
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sukka-4-luvwell i did open the cd... used it as a coaster10:04
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noiesmonaddar, add multiverse and universe to all your uncommented sources in your sources.list10:05
sukka-4-luvdont wanna mark up my nice $5 table10:05
noiesmonaddar, do apt-get update and then you should be able to apt-get install mplayer10:05
naddarnoiesmo: thanks i check once :)10:05
naddarthanks again10:05
sukka-4-luvahh here i go again...10:05
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sukka-4-luvat least gates is a philantopist... to a degree10:06
sukka-4-luvwell im all sleepy now... catch ya laterz folx10:08
korya more recent story on Windows Refund: http://www.networkworld.com/news/2006/110706-dell-windows.html?t510:09
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Matthewkory, very nice.10:11
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Matthewyay! 34 seconds until Edgy is completly downloaded...have fun everybody...good night!10:13
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naddaranyone knows program for movie database? So i can enter all my movies ?10:15
naddarweb based or ...10:15
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lotusleaf!tellico10:16
ubotutellico: collection manager for books, videos, music. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.2-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 782 kB, installed size 2264 kB10:16
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lotusleafnaddar: there's one option10:18
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naddarlotusleaf:  thanks works fine :)10:20
lotusleafnaddar: yw =)10:21
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Mozzihallo10:29
naddarMozzi: hallo :)10:29
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linopilin /usr/bin want to make a link called cmd ;-) (to be invoked from alt F2) pointing to konsoleit would be ln -s ...what ?pls help10:30
josefguys does anyone knows how to install firefox 2.0 packed in extention tar.gz10:31
rmHi. Sorry to gurmble, but it's a pity the audio quality is not very good on the videos from akademy06.10:31
lotusleafjosef: are you using dapper?10:31
linopil o/  what country is .za10:31
Jucatorm: wrong channel? :)10:31
lotusleafjosef: there are easy instructions on building mozilla on mozilla's site if that's what you're looking for10:31
joseflotusleaf  yes i use dapper10:31
Jucatolinopil: my guess is "Zaire"10:31
lotusleafjosef: ah, I thought so. Have you thought of using edgy? :)10:32
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linopilor fake ?10:32
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lotusleafjosef: compiling firefox yourself is fun, but can be tricky if you're new to building from source, are you new to this?10:32
linopilin /usr/bin want to make a link called cmd ;-) (to be invoked from alt F2) pointing to konsole it would be ln -s ...what ?pls help10:32
joseflotusleaf edgy ??? is it a new version of kubuntu..10:32
joseflotusleaf yes i am new10:33
lotusleafjosef: yes10:33
lotusleafjosef: if you use Edgy you get firefox 2 without compiling10:33
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lotusleafjosef: kubuntu.org for details10:33
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Jucatolinopil: "sudo ln -s /usr/bin/konsole /usr/bin/cmd" I think10:33
dsbhi10:33
joseflotusleaf ok i will  check out  thanks lotus for the info10:34
linopilJucato, tyvm will try now10:34
lotusleafjosef: yw10:34
dsbwhy is my kubuntu only showing up at 640x480 after a restart when it was working fine at higher resolutions?10:34
Mozzidsb: check your xorg.conf file10:35
linopilOK ty Jucato,  was simple enough you can imagine how useful it is when jumping from one machine to another10:36
Jucato:P10:36
dsbMozzi, I did and and I can't find the original one that had the good resolutions. So apparently the KDE application wrote over it 5 times10:36
Mozziyou using nvidia?10:36
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dsbold ati radeon10:36
Mozzisudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:37
linopilin the Ballmer -  Gates world you know :P10:37
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krautmoin10:40
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RoKFiTis anyone here?10:42
lotusleaf*tumbleweed*10:43
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RoKFiTlol10:43
RoKFiTdo you know how to change the background of my login screen during bootup10:44
RoKFiTi think it's my login screen10:44
JucatoRoKFiT: depends on your KDM theme, or whether you are even using a KDM Theme10:44
RoKFiTi have everything set to auto-login, and no login manager10:45
RoKFiTJucato: can you instruct me on how to do it?10:45
RoKFiThow do i tell if i'm using a kdm theme10:45
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RoKFiTit's just standard kubuntu with auto-login and no login manager10:45
Jucatoyou mean you don't see the login box anymore?10:45
RoKFiTno10:45
klerfaythow to rewrite master boot record?10:45
Jucatoit just jumps to the splash screen then?10:45
RoKFiTnot even that, just blue10:46
RoKFiTlight navy blue10:46
RoKFiTthan to my desktop10:46
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linopilklerfayt, rewrite with what10:46
linopilgrubinstall ?10:47
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Jucatohm.. no splash screen? weird. anyway, then yours is a bit simpler.10:47
Admiral_Chicagonaddar: multivrse10:47
RoKFiTis there still a method to make it black?10:47
JucatoSystem Settings -> Advanced -> Login Manager -> background tab (click on Administrative mode first)10:47
Admiral_Chicagoerr nevermind10:47
Admiral_Chicagothat was way late10:47
linopilubuntu is getting better every day10:48
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RoKFiTJucato I have done this before and it didn't fix it10:48
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Jucatohi Admiral_Chicago10:49
RoKFiTtry again?10:49
Admiral_Chicagoup to anything new Jucato?10:49
klerfaytlinopil: it got rewrittten with feisty; I want to rewrite with edgy10:49
JucatoRoKFiT: I don't understand why it wouldn't work if, as you said, you only see the navy blue screen when logging in (no splash screen)10:49
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: yeah. Ulteo hehe10:50
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Admiral_Chicagowhat is that10:50
linopilyou are playing with feisty already ?10:50
RoKFiTodd10:50
RoKFiTi added a panel at the bottom of my screen that won't resize, what can i do?10:50
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klerfaytlinopil: I installed feisty today on separate partition; any idea how to rewrite grub as if edgy was installed most recently?10:51
JucatoRoKFiT: why won't it resize10:51
RoKFiTi don't know10:51
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Jucatoer.. sorry10:52
JucatoI mean, how is it not resizing? are you choosing the correct panel in the drop down list?10:52
RoKFiTwill reboot fix it?10:52
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RoKFiTyes i am10:52
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RoKFiTmaybe refresh desktop, holdon10:52
Jucatono10:53
klerfaytRoKFiT: I can reproduce this bug10:53
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Jucatoklerfayt: what boug? can you please be more specific?10:53
RoKFiTyeah, its on 1%, and Expand as required to fit contents10:53
klerfaytJucato: right-click on panel and select to add panel10:54
RoKFiTklerfayt: is there a fix10:54
klerfaytRoKFiT: no idea10:54
Jucatothen?10:54
JucatoRoKFiT: don't reboot yet10:54
klerfaytJucato: then right click on new panel and select properties10:54
Jucatoah that one10:54
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Jucatoyes it's a bug, and yes, there's a "fix"10:54
Jucato"dcop kicker kicker restart"10:54
RoKFiTin terminal?10:55
klerfaytRoKFiT: yes10:55
JucatoAlt+F2 or where ver10:55
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klerfaytRoKFiT: without ""10:56
RoKFiTit worked, can i make windows draw and size behind it?10:56
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Seveasimbrandon, prod10:58
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klerfaytRoKFiT: you mean make it transparent?10:58
RoKFiTno, i mean make applications use the entire screen and maximize behind it10:59
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paoloHi; i need to create a dynamic dissolvence effect on an image... which is the right command? thnks10:59
klerfaytRoKFiT: I guess so11:00
RoKFiTdo you know how11:00
klerfaytRoKFiT: like you do it to main panel?11:00
RoKFiTi don't do it to main panel11:00
RoKFiToh wait, it auto does it11:00
RoKFiTnevermind11:00
RoKFiT:)11:01
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MatthewRoKFiT, please try to say all that you want to say on one line; that way you don't fill up the channel with spam11:01
lotusleafcaptain_ on the bridge11:01
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devinuswhat was the latest security updates for?11:06
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drakeoutlawi am considering switching from gnome to kde. any caviats?11:13
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Matthewdrakeoutlaw, I love the KDE gui so much more than the GNOME gui...it seems much more intuitive and it definetly looks nicer (at least to me)11:14
drakeoutlawany problems with wifi. I use ipw2200 with wpa11:15
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drakeoutlawMatthew: any problems with wifi? I use ipw2200 with wpa11:18
Matthewnope, mine worked right out of the box...let me check the card...11:18
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drakeoutlawwhat about playin wma, mp3 files11:19
MatthewRaLink Ralink RT2500 802.11 Cardbus Reference Card (rev 01)11:20
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klerfaytok I did overwrite grub successfully, but "grub-install /dev/sda" did not include feisty entries - is there a command that will search for other operating systems on harddrive and update grub accordingly?11:21
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RoKFiTdoes anyone not use a taskbar?11:29
RoKFiTor find it inconvenient not using one?11:29
JucatoI use one, but hide it when not in use11:29
RoKFiTdo you make it an extra panel?11:31
MatthewI'm good doing wma and mp3 files as well11:31
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RoKFiTor the main panel11:31
JucatoRoKFiT: extra11:31
Matthewdrakeoutlaw, just in case you were still wondering ^11:31
Jucatowell, last week it was in the main panel, because I was too lazy to put it in an extra11:31
RoKFiTyou can't draw windows behind the main panel?11:31
Jucatobut my system tray is getting crowded11:31
drakeoutlawMatthew: thanx11:32
JucatoI can drag11:32
Jucatobehind the main panel11:32
Matthewdrakeoutlaw, are you ok with playing those formats?11:32
RoKFiTdraw?11:32
RoKFiTi can't move a window behind the main panel11:32
RoKFiTor have it maximize behind it11:32
Jucatoyou can't maximize behind it.11:33
RoKFiTno11:33
drakeoutlawMatthew: I want to be able to see youtube videos. most downloadable videos seem to be in wma11:33
RoKFiTor move a window behind it11:33
drakeoutlawplus mp3 is needed to make mp3 cd for my car stereo11:34
RoKFiTjucato is there a fix?11:34
Matthewdrakeoutlaw, youtube uses flash to stream the vids...11:34
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Matthewdrakeoutlaw, for mp3 playback, sudo apt-get install mpg12311:35
Matthewdrakeoutlaw, not sure about wma...but you may want to download the Flash 9 Beta2 from Adobe.com11:35
JucatoMatthew: mp3 playback where?11:35
drakeoutlawso installed flash plug-in will continue to play as before11:35
Matthewdrakeoutlaw, there are many guides online11:35
JucatoRoKFiT: I wouldn't know because I don't have that problem here...11:35
Jucatomp3 and aac support is handled by "libxine-extracodecs" in multiverse11:36
Jucatowma/wmv is handled by w32codecs (manual download)11:36
drakeoutlawWill automatix work in kubuntu11:36
MatthewJucato, thanks...I mostly install stuff through automatix,so I don't really have a firm grasp of what goes where11:36
Matthewdrakeoutlaw, yes, it will11:36
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drakeoutlawWhat about bluetooth?11:37
Matthewdrakeoutlaw, I think that bluetooth connectivity is included w/ kubuntu...I don't know, since I don't have a BT capable MoBo...11:38
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Matthewdrakeoutlaw, but I do see an option for it in system settings11:38
MatthewKmenu -> System Settings11:38
ZeuGiRDoRhello everyone11:38
drakeoutlawi use a $10 Bluetooth usb11:39
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Jucatobluetooth works fine here (kbluetooth installed)11:39
Matthewdrakeoutlaw, does that answer your question?11:40
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Matthewman, it's like 3 in the morning here...I need to sleep soon...11:40
drakeoutlawMatthew: you bet. looks like its good to go11:40
Matthewdrakeoutlaw, very cool.11:41
Matthewdrakeoutlaw, remember, when you become a veteran (or even just not a beginner), remember to come back here every now and again to help out...11:41
drakeoutlawThanks all for your help11:42
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Matthewdrakeoutlaw, no problem11:42
RoKFiTwhy can't i only enable transparency for one panel?11:43
ZeuGiRDoRi need an id3 tag editor for kde, somebody can help me? i want to replace easytag11:44
MatthewZeuGiRDoR, try installing synaptic if you haven't already and searching for id311:44
abattoir!info kid311:44
ubotukid3: KDE MP3 ID3 tag editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 226 kB, installed size 800 kB11:44
abattoirZeuGiRDoR: ^^^11:44
ZeuGiRDoRubotu: but kid3 can't rename files, isn't it?11:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about but kid3 can't rename files, isn't it? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:45
RoKFiTis it possible to only make one panel transparent?11:46
RoKFiTor a specific panel transparent11:46
JucatoRoKFiT: no11:46
JucatoZeuGiRDoR: ubotu is a bot11:46
RoKFiTthat would be a good feature11:46
ZeuGiRDoRok ok11:46
ZeuGiRDoRi don't know11:47
Jucato:)11:47
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ZeuGiRDoRjeje11:47
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MatthewThanks for the company everyone, but I've got to install edgy before I go to bed...11:50
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eilker!torrent11:50
ubotuTorrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html11:50
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eilker!Azureus11:50
ubotuazureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo11:50
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jasinhi11:51
RoKFiThallo!11:51
RoKFiTjk11:52
jasin:)11:52
unix_infidelwhat's the macro for copy paste in screen again?11:52
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unix_infidelnvm.11:54
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unix_infidelctrl+a+[11:54
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jasinisn't it shift+insert?11:55
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tamerHi people!12:10
tamerI think my ubuntu version somehow is damaged....12:10
tamerCan somebody help me?!12:10
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tamerEvery time i start "adept" I receive the message: "The Database is locked Adept is running in READ ONLY mode"12:11
Jucatotamer: try running this command in Konsole: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"12:12
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tamerokay12:13
ROBOdhello guys12:13
ROBOdthere are some updates for KDE12:13
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ROBOdand the deb files are not found12:13
tamerYOU ARE A HERO Jucato!!!!12:13
tamerthank you12:13
jasinhi12:13
jasinthere are new kernel verson's out too12:14
tamerJucato: YOu ARE A SUPER HERO... thank you very much. I thought my system is damaged and I have to reinstall everything again. God thanks!12:14
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Jucatotamer: heheh you're welcome :)12:14
jasinversion*12:14
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eloquence_mew12:15
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jasindont have permission? you need to be root to burn cd's?12:17
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chxhow could I tell apt that I have installed a package which replaces another? I have xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting instead of xserver-xorg-video-i810 and automatic updating is problematic.12:18
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avalonAnyone know cobol12:28
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DegenerateGreetings all12:37
DegenerateSeems rather quiet for a channel with so many users12:39
B-Minusyes12:39
DegenerateI'm looking for advice from helpful geeks...12:40
Degenerateperhaps a bit specialised for the general channel, but maybe someone can point me in the right direction.12:41
wildcat_19anyone know how to get sound in kaffeine on flv files?12:41
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easytigerdoes nayone use katapult? it works, but it can take a while after you start typing for the program to show up12:42
Degenerateany expert on the filesystem hierarchy that can advise me on setting up two systems that mostly share the same configuration via NFS?12:43
wildcat_19anyone else having trouble with flv files in kaffeine?12:43
Degeneratewildcat, I'm surprised it plays them at all, being a proprietry format12:44
wildcat_19it plays video, but no sound12:44
wildcat_19u know a converter?12:45
easytigerDegenerate: you could have your home directory on NFS12:45
DegenerateI'm guessing it uses gnash (the free flash alternative), which is coming along but not fully functional yet12:45
easytigerbut not a great idea if your going to use it with two linux installs12:45
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Degenerateeasytiger: I figured out sharing /home already. What I'm looking to do is share as much of the install as poosible, just leaving the minimal configuration files necessary for the different hardware.12:46
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wildcat_19u know a batch converter for flash files?12:47
easytigerDegenerate: i'm sure it's possible, but i dunno it would require a lot of hacking12:48
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Degenerateeasytiger: Yeah, I know it's pretty advanced stuff. Ive been studying the filesystem hierarchy standard a bit. It is supposed to allow this sort of thing, thats's part of the reason for the wierd layout. It separates sharable from non-sharable and variable from fixed data.12:50
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DegenerateYou're supposed to be able to share /bin for example12:50
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DegenerateAnother approach would be to not actually share the directories but just rsync one from the other. I'm not sure of the pros/cons of either approach.12:52
DegenerateI just don't want to be updating/customising two systems. One acts as backup for the other.12:52
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sergio__:)01:07
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Piotszehi01:12
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No1VikingGuys.... How do I do to get some kind of filemanager to work with sudo ?01:13
Jucato"kdesu konqueror"01:13
No1VikingJucato, thanks01:14
Piotszei have just upgraded my kubuntu 6.06 to 6.10 and there are couple of problems (sorry for my english)01:14
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linopilkdesu Jucato ? good to know01:15
Jucato!kdesu01:15
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo01:15
Piotszefirts of all there is NO monitor icon in "system settings", second: there is an icon of "adept-updater" but updates do not install themself01:15
Piotszeanyone know how to fix that ?01:17
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linopilhi arieler21201:19
linopil  01:19
linopilapokryphos, stay in ubuntu-gr as well ;)01:20
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llutzmoin01:36
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lupulhi there. does anyone know some more addresses for quake 2 torrents?01:38
linopilwhy not google it lupul01:38
lupuli tried01:38
Piotszetorrent search engine01:39
lupulbut i did;n find anything01:39
lupuljust the one that im using now01:39
lupulbut it stopped01:39
easytigeris kcheckgmail not working?01:39
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gnomefreakeasytiger: on some peoples its not01:39
easytigergnomefreak: any reasons?01:40
gnomefreakeasytiger: i dont remember off hand ther eis a bug on it01:40
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lupulwhy don't you use kmail?01:40
easytigergnomefreak: no worries.01:40
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easytigerlupul: i just got usedto it being web based01:42
linopillupul what about amule ? tried that ?01:42
lupulno i didn't01:42
easytigeramule crashes when you close all the search tabs01:42
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lupulfirst i have to find out how to use it01:42
lupul:D01:42
linopileasy lupul ha01:42
easytigerit is gnerally reccomended to use emaule01:42
linopilemaule ?01:43
easytiger*emule01:43
lupulamule01:43
lupulk01:43
lupulthanks01:43
kakaltowhen I try to log in, kubuntu rejects and sends me back to the login screen, with no error01:43
lupuli'll try it01:43
kakaltoany ideas how to fix?01:43
easytigerkakalto: can you log in from a termianl01:43
kakaltoeasytiger: yeah...... but I want to fix it.01:43
kakaltonot just log in01:43
linopilIOW kakalto chek password01:43
linopiland languase too01:44
sungam_kakalto, what do you mean kubuntu rejects you?01:44
linopiland capslock kakalto01:44
kakaltolinopil: No error. NOT password_!01:44
easytigerare you search X isnt crashing when you log in?01:44
kakaltoffs01:44
easytiger*/r/search/sure01:44
kakaltosungam_: it simply sends me back to the log in screen.01:44
kakaltoI can log in from console fine01:44
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sungam_kakalto, but you get X up?01:44
cristianohi guys i need urgently help!!01:44
easytigerkakalto: is X crashing01:44
kakaltoeasytiger: doubt it01:45
kakaltosungam_: yes, X is up01:45
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kakaltokdm is fine01:45
kakaltoI can run failsafe01:45
cristianoi installed ATI Drivers following ubuntuguide but it says now "01:45
cristianoXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".01:45
cristianoXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".01:45
cristianoError: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!01:45
sungam_kakalto, then easytiger 's right :)01:45
linopilmaybe use backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf  kakalto01:45
cristianopls help me!!!!01:45
easytigercan you log into gnome/fluxbox ok?01:45
Piotszeok so there is no Display Configuration in System Settings after upgrade to Kubuntu 6.1001:45
linopil!paste01:45
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:45
kakaltolinopil: I haven't edited xorg.conf01:45
sungam_kakalto, try creating a new user, and see if he can log in fine01:45
easytigeryea might be a profile issue01:46
sungam_kakalto, if it's that then it's most likely the config files connected to your user01:46
cristianolinopil i know sry but i'm nervous! i've bought this ATI radeon 9600 and it looks not to work even if i followed the ubuntuguide!!!01:46
easytigercristiano: shouldnt have bought that01:46
kakaltoin my /var/log/Xorg.0.log, there's a bunch of errors to do with wacom..01:46
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kakaltothink it's to do with that?01:46
easytigernetwork?01:46
linopilwacom is a pen to be used like mouse kakalto01:47
kakaltoeasytiger: me? wacom is tablet stuff, not network..01:47
kakaltolinopil: I know that, thank you01:47
cristianoeasytiger: mmmmm however why it doesnt load glx????01:47
linopilcristiano, patience01:48
sungam_kakalto, do you have a tablet pc?01:48
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Jucato!baddevice01:48
ubotuIf you are getting errors similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.001:48
kakaltosungam_: no. I've noticed that k/ubuntu automatically puts wacom crap into every xorg.conf, and I seem to be the only one who's ever had issues with it01:48
cristianook linopil i'll try to calm down but it's so bad when u buy something and seems not to work01:48
easytigercristiano: i dunno.. but i know i know its dumb to by ati when you want to use it with linux :p01:49
sungam_kakalto, do what jucato suggested :)01:49
linopilcristiano, blame it on ubuntu this time. not on shop or yourself01:49
Jucatoheh I did not suggest that :)01:49
Jucatoit was the bot :P01:49
JackPhildoes a resolution for usplash with 16:9 screen?01:49
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kakaltosungam_: okie, trying that now..01:49
easytigeri get those device errors too.. but they seem harmless01:49
linopillinux still has its hardware issues. many of them for video and peripherals01:50
cristianolinopil but as i look on the ubuntu wiki guide it looks many people use it,it's weird i am not able :(01:51
JackPhil16:1001:51
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kakaltowhat's the proper method for removing a user account?01:52
kakaltormuser?01:52
kakaltouserrm?01:52
kakaltouserdel?01:52
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Jucato(System Settings -> User Management)01:53
linopilwhat is the analogous of dxdiag(windowz) in ubuntu ?01:54
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kakaltookay, kubuntu officially just shat itself.02:10
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B-Minus_how is the program called that looks like an apple launch bar ?02:17
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kakaltoB-Minus_: trademark?02:18
B-Minus_huh02:18
B-Minus_no02:18
B-Minus_its a launchbar02:18
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B-Minus_but it zooms in etc02:18
B-Minus_like apple02:18
kakaltoyeah02:18
B-Minus_how is it called02:18
kakaltothey always have funny names for stuff under linux =)02:18
kakaltohow is it called?02:19
andersonI have problem nvidia driver!! Help me02:19
B-Minus_i dont know02:19
B-Minus_lol02:19
kakaltoanderson: what kind of problem?02:19
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andersonno load X02:20
kakalto!nvidia02:20
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:20
kakaltodid you follow the guide correctly?02:20
andersonyes02:20
andersonbut errors02:20
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kakaltowhat error?02:21
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andersoninstallation normal, but laod erro and reboot machine02:21
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paolo____hi ... i need to create a dynamic fade effect on an image and disply it in a fullscreen mode... which is the right command? thnks02:23
kakaltoanderson: what error?02:23
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piotszeAdept shows me some updates but don't install them02:24
andersonno return erros display, mas monitor black signal02:24
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willvdlhi folks. how can I sign gpg keys in kmail?02:31
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holgertest02:36
holgerhellihello all together02:36
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holgeri have a little question, is it possible to remap the key-combi ctrl-alt-7 to altgr-7 and if yes how? thanks02:39
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RoKFiTcan anyone help me?02:42
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RoKFiTi need to put the main panel above the other windows with still being able to maximize windows behind it.02:43
RoKFiTis it possible?02:43
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JucatoRoKFiT: you can't maximize windows behind it. what you can do is to autohide that panel instead02:45
RoKFiTthat sucks02:45
RoKFiTalso, i want to have it be able to auto expand as the task bar gets bigger, and keep all task bar entries the same size, always!02:46
RoKFiTthe panel i'm refering to02:46
Jucatothat's possible, but not the "maximize windows behind it" part02:46
RoKFiToh how do i do that part then?02:47
JucatoRoKFiT: set the Length to "expand as required to fit contents02:47
RoKFiTi do that and it doesn't expand when it's on the left side02:48
RoKFiTthe tasks shrink to fit02:48
RoKFiTmaybe it will work on the right?02:48
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RoKFiTno, same output02:49
Jucatoand if you set the panel to hide automatically and raise when the pointer reaches the screen's ____ edge, you can have the effect that you want (maximize windows behind it).02:49
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RoKFiTi know, but the panel is not expanding as more tasks fill up02:50
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RoKFiTwhich i think it should02:51
Hard_WiredWhere are the settings for the kpanel stored? I don't want to lose it when I upgrade to Edgy.02:52
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kakaltoLOLOCAUST02:55
kakalto"conversation with su failed."02:55
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omarHi guys, I need some help , I am tryingt to mount a folder between debians but i get this error "mount: RPC: Authentication error; why = Failed (unspecified error)"03:00
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beauCould not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)03:02
beauE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?03:02
beaunice one03:02
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momalbeau: make sure apt-get or adapt is running03:03
momalisn't running*03:03
Jucato!adept crash fix | beau03:03
ubotubeau: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'03:03
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omarHi guys, I need some help , I am tryingt to mount a folder between debians but i get this error "mount: RPC: Authentication error; why = Failed (unspecified error)"03:05
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ssokolowI'm trying to set up some Windows games under Wine for my brother, but it'd be nice if he could do this himself. Does anyone know how I could programmatically open a new X session for games that insist on 256-color graphics?03:07
hirshi03:08
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hirsDoes any one know how to set a splash for hibernate/suspend? or at least a text message like hibernating/suspendig and resuming...03:09
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ukaszhi03:10
ukaszi have a problem with kaffeine03:11
digitalfreedomwhats the prob03:11
ukaszwhen i play something from other disk it coppies sth and doesn't start to play mp3 or movie03:11
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CzarAlexCould somsone recommend a video editor for KDE? I'm familiar with Windows Movie Maker but would like to use a KDE equivelant. Suggestions?03:12
digitalfreedomwell you got me03:12
digitalfreedomi got no idea03:12
Jucatokino?03:12
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CzarAlexJucato, is that for me?03:12
Jucato!kino | CzarAlex03:12
ubotukino: Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 0.90-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1093 kB, installed size 3860 kB03:12
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Jucatonot really sure, so don't quote me on that one...03:13
ssokolowCzarAlex: I don't know whether Kubuntu offers it, and whether it would be what you're looking for, but I'd use Cinelerra for video editing. (I'm a Gentoo user on his brother's Ubuntu box)03:13
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CzarAlexJucato I wont quote ya but thanks for the info.03:13
CzarAlexssokolow and you too. Thanks Ill look in to that package.03:13
ukaszmaybe i will try to reinstall codecs03:13
Jucato!find cinelerra03:13
paul__howdi03:13
ubotuPackage/file cinelerra does not exist in edgy03:13
CzarAlexI see.03:14
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paul__:)03:14
CzarAlexAh. Someone found how to install. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294007&highlight=Cinelerra03:15
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EightiesK!mp303:19
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:19
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EightiesK!opera03:20
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser03:20
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EightiesK!tcpmp03:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tcpmp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:20
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CzarAlex!find diva03:22
ubotuPackage/file diva does not exist in edgy03:22
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EightiesK!installing debian packages03:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about installing debian packages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:27
EightiesK!deb03:27
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)03:27
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BluesKajHowdy all ! :)03:29
alexicondoes kubuntu edgy come with reiser support for installation03:29
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BluesKajalexicon, no it's ext2 or 303:30
alexiconD:03:31
alexiconwhy03:31
alexiconmy home dir is on a reiser partition03:31
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BluesKajuse GParted to setup a (k)ubuntu partition ...it'a a live cd partitioner that works very well03:32
EightiesKhello03:32
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Guardianhi03:34
Guardianadept update wars me about a lot of kde packages to be ugraded, what are there for ?03:34
BluesKajhi EightiesK, Guardian03:35
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Guardianso much updates in a row does not look risk free :)03:35
JucatoGuardian: bugfixes and stuff03:35
Jucatothose updates have probably been waiting since Edgy was released. I guess they decided to update by batch instead of one by one03:36
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Guardiankdesktop: candidate version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.203:37
Guardianis it kde 4?03:37
Jucatono03:37
Jucatostill 3.5.503:37
Guardiank03:37
Guardiani'm not familiar with kde versions03:37
JucatoKDE version in Edgy is 3.5.503:37
EightiesKwho here uses kubuntu mainly?03:39
Guardianmainly ?03:39
EightiesKas there main os03:39
Guardiani do03:39
BluesKaj<--- 90% kubuntu edgy03:39
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Guardiani'm not always satisfied by linux03:40
Guardianbut ...03:40
nixternal<-- 100% Kubuntu Edgy + 15% Kubuntu Feisty03:40
Guardianit's ok :)03:40
nixternal;p03:40
Jucatoheh :)03:40
Guardianit's a pain in the ass in a company03:40
EightiesKok how do i get mp3s and wmv files read03:40
Guardianyesterday i joined the active directory stuff03:40
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Guardianpfff ...03:40
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Jucato(what an introduction to a question...)03:40
EightiesKi haven't used linux since badger came out03:40
BluesKajneed windows for some video stuff that i haven't gotten working in edgy yet but it'sjust a matter of time :)03:40
nixternalEightiesK: wmv files are win32codecs and mp3s are libxine-extracodecs03:41
Guardiantooks hour because the damn firewall on the active directory server had ports clsoed03:41
nixternalEightiesK: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs03:41
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nixternal^^ that will get you mp3 support03:41
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nixternalEightiesK: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed503:41
nixternal^^ win32codecs info03:42
Guardiani desperately tried to find a fair comparison between gnome and kde, which one eats less resources ... then i installed xubuntu on my centrino laptop :D03:42
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Guardianstil i have a P4 taht uses kubuntu03:42
EightiesKi hate my gx cards03:42
EightiesKI have to use vesa...03:42
Guardianand another sucky dell laptop with ubuntu03:42
Guardianand in the end i can't see much difference03:42
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the-ermHas anyone here had the joy of compiling mplayer from scratch?03:43
EightiesKnot me03:43
Guardiansurely gentooers03:43
Guardian:)03:43
the-ermedgy's mplayer is borked.03:43
EightiesKthis is my first time in linux in almost a year.03:43
the-ermchirps and clicks all over the place.03:43
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BluesKajhehe, try the mythtv setup procedure...now there's "joy" :(03:44
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ssokolowWhat changes do I need to make to my brother's account to fix this error message? --> "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting."03:44
BulwinkleCan someone help me figure out why whenever my screensaver comes up my screen goes black instead of showing it.  When I move my mouse to wake it up, I see the screensaver with the password prompt.  Odd I think.03:44
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EightiesKis the reps. still multiverse?03:44
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ssokolowHe needs to be able to launch a second X session for a Wine-wrapped game which insists on 256-color mode.03:45
EightiesKanyone use vlc for media?03:46
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Ash-FoxEightiesK, yes.03:46
ssokolowthe-erm: I'm a Gentoo user. I've never personally compiled mplayer from scratch, (emerge does the work) but I'm willing to try to guide you through it.03:47
EightiesKAsh-Fox: like it?03:47
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Guardiani never understood the motivation behind recompiling everything03:47
Guardianin gentoo03:47
EightiesKI use it in win.03:47
Guardianhow great, wait all day long for kde or openoffice to compile ...03:47
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ssokolowGuardian: A mixture of wanting control over compile-time options, and wanting something without apt's flaws.03:48
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Ash-FoxEightiesK, I think kaffiene is a lot better because it can use 'hacks' that VLC can't.03:48
Guardianssokolow: which apt flaws ?03:48
holger_hi all, i have troubles to remap the keycombi ctrl+alt+7 to altgr+7(this { on a german keyboard). i have tried it in kcontrol/Input Actions there is an example but it works with any key expect altgr-combis, damned :-( any ideas03:48
Ash-FoxIt tend to use VLC mostly on Linux for decoding DVDs and converting them to transport stream MPGs.03:48
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ssokolowGuardian: Can't open a copy of adept while apt-get is running in Yakuake.03:48
alexicongentooer right here03:48
EightiesKAsh-Fox: IC03:49
alexiconok so does ubuntu have reiser support? or they dont have it either now???03:49
ssokolowGuardian: ...and probably the biggest example of why I like a source distro is that I'm running an aRTs-free KDE 3.5.5 install.03:49
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Jucatoalexicon: if you use the Alternate install cd, I think you can have reiser support03:49
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alexiconcan you link me to the alternate Jucato03:50
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Guardianssokolow: what's ART ? kde sound manager stuff ?03:50
Jucatohold on03:50
Jucato!download03:50
ubotuKubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php03:50
alexiconGuardian: arts is your worst nightmare X-D03:50
holger_Does anybody know howto map ctrl-alt-7 to altgr-7?03:50
alexiconcheers Jucato03:50
Guardianwell i did not use kde for 3 years :) i don't know what arts is03:50
alexicon:O03:50
EightiesKlinamp03:51
EightiesK!linamp03:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linamp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:51
alexiconarts is the sound system for kde03:51
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Ash-Fox!xmms > EightiesK03:51
alexiconits the thing you have to kill to get your sound working again X-D03:51
ssokolowaRTs is unecessary since I have hardware mixing and my apps can talk to the sound card directly.03:51
Guardianhaha03:51
Jucatoalexicon: um.. I'm not really familiar with this new download page....03:51
Guardianok right03:51
alexiconyeah i dont see it Jucato :/03:51
Guardianwill kde4 drop arts ?03:51
alexiconany idea why they ditched reiser??03:52
alexiconunlikely Guardian03:52
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Guardianyeah i also noticed that reiserfs was not more available03:52
ssokolowKDE 4 has announced that they will be dropping aRTs.03:52
Jucatoalexicon: the qtparted version they used in the live cd installer doesn't support reiser. they didn't ditch it.03:52
Guardianwhen i installed edgy03:52
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ssokolowIn it's place, they'll be using the dmix ALSA software mixer, and a pluggable interface between backends (eg. Xine) and apps called Phonon.03:52
alexiconnrrr03:52
alexiconso if i dont use the gui install i can have reiser?03:53
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Guardianalexicon: try the alternate cd03:53
Ash-Foxalexicon, yes.03:53
Guardianbut it's no more on the desktop live cd03:53
Ash-Foxalexicon, or you can just open konsole and do mkfs.reiserfs /dev/hdsomething5 after partitioning03:54
Guardianis reiserfs really faster ?03:54
Ash-Foxthen quit the installer, start again, and just install to that partition03:54
Guardianfor a desktop, is it worth using it compared to ext3?03:54
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Ash-FoxGuardian, I find it a lot faster.03:54
Guardiank03:54
EightiesK!7zip03:54
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression03:54
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swanfljfs is better than reiser imho03:55
alexiconAsh-Fox: the partition is already made, but it has gentoo on it, wanna wipe that out.03:56
alexiconoh then actually03:56
BluesKajreformat it to ext03:56
alexiconi can install the / on to any fs type, and it will read my home thats reiser stil03:56
alexiconit has reiser support, just not in the install..03:56
BluesKajreiser shows no particular speed over ext03:57
EightiesKhow much space does Kubuntu need to run live?03:58
Ash-FoxBluesKaj, I've noticed that creating say 12GB zeroed out images in vmware takes a second while in ext3 it takes a while it writes out a bunch of stuff03:58
Ash-FoxBluesKaj, also my system with the same documents and so on, seems to boot a bit faster with reiserfs (only difference is with the file /etc/fstab obviously in my tests..)03:58
JucatoEightiesK: what space?03:59
BluesKajVMware . well i guess it would03:59
alexiconEightiesK: the livecd uses no space.03:59
alexiconEightiesK: a minimum install for kubuntu would be around 2gb give or take03:59
Ash-FoxBluesKaj, not talking about inside vmware.03:59
BluesKajif reiser is so great then why isn't it used in ubuntu ?03:59
alexiconyeah BluesKaj what has plagued reisers rep so much they wont include it04:00
Dr_willisFilesystem Wars! :)04:00
alexiconrawr!04:00
Ash-FoxBluesKaj, because debian uses ext304:00
djdarkmanhy ,I sadly don`t have enough time now to search on the forums ,can someone tell me ,how can I make file sharing as easy as in windows?04:00
Dr_willisdjdarkman,  install samba04:00
Ash-FoxThat's why Ubuntu uses ext3.04:00
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eilker!joomla04:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about joomla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:00
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djdarkmanDr_willis: ok ,but how do I make samba be controllable from kcontrol?04:01
Dr_willisdjdarkman,  sudo apt-get install samba samba-doc04:01
BluesKajso how does one get ubuntu to run a reiser supported FS ?04:01
EightiesKanyone ever heard of a portable media player called xm2 or something like that. my school uses windows so i carry my apps around on a usbdrive04:01
Ash-FoxBluesKaj, it is supported.04:01
alexiconBluesKaj: i think it does but you cant install on it04:01
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Dr_willisdjdarkman, i always edit the samba config file by hand.. i just uncomment the 'homes' shares and  make them writeable.04:02
Ash-FoxBluesKaj, the gui partitioner just doesn't have it as a option. It's just a simple mkfs.reiserfs command from the console.04:02
Ash-FoxYou can install to it.04:02
Dr_willisdjdarkman,  also use 'sudo smbpasswd -a LINUXUSERNAME' to set up a samba password for the linux users.04:02
alexiconah ok Ash-Fox04:02
Guardianis reiser4 available with kubuntu ?04:02
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alexicon:P04:02
alexiconyes Guardian04:02
Ash-FoxGuardian, yes.04:02
Guardianok04:02
alexiconbut not in the gui is all04:02
Ash-FoxI have not use reiser4 yet.04:03
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Guardiandownloading the alternate cd04:03
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BluesKajso it must be done previous to installing , too late for existing ext#04:04
BluesKajerr - installation04:04
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  at least not easially...04:05
Guardiancan't an ext3 partition be converted ?04:05
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BluesKajthink I'll stick with ext04:05
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BluesKajtoo much to redo , otherwise04:06
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Dr_willisI see no reason for most people to use anything other then ext304:06
alexiconconverting would be reformating04:06
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chopin|pc!wpa_supplicant04:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wpa_supplicant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:07
chopin|pcack04:07
BluesKajhttp://www.namesys.com/v4/v4.html...makes it sound so great ...but suse sucks anyway ...it doesn't help that os04:07
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chopin|pcanyone here use wpa_supplicant?04:07
Dr_willisYou could proberly use Mondo/Mindi to backup and restore to a reiserfs. but ick. :)04:07
alexiconi was just concerned that it wouldnt have support to read my other reiser partitions04:07
BluesKajain't goin there as the saying goes :)04:07
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chopin|pc!wireless04:11
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:11
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mducharmewhats the name of KDE regexp editor?04:13
Jucato!kregexpeditor04:14
ubotukregexpeditor: graphical regular expression editor plugin for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 278 kB, installed size 1080 kB04:14
Jucatomducharme: ^^^^^04:14
mducharmeshouldaknown, lol04:15
mducharmethanks04:15
Jucato:)04:15
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mducharmewow that app is broken04:19
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mducharmeor im an idiot04:19
mducharmeor both :D04:20
fusspilsI get a screwed up screen in Kubuntu 6.10 after bootscreen on the live cd....6.06 works fine...if I install 6.06 then upgrade to 6.10 I also get the screen problem...any idea's?04:20
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BluesKajscrewedup scrn..how do you mean that ?04:21
fusspilsits looks like a broken VGA card style error, many coloured stripes04:21
fusspilsbut I know the VGA card is ok04:22
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sb9any idea? my key for pipe-symbol and redirecting streams doesnt work anymore, already checked another keyboard - same04:22
sb9all other keys work04:22
BluesKajmust be ok if it works in dapper04:22
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BluesKajdriver update for edgy maybe ?04:22
sb9is this some weird keyboard layout ?04:23
sb9for non linux users ?04:23
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Dr_willissb9,  you mean the | and >> << keys?04:24
sb9yes04:24
sb9oh got german layout, its the same key04:25
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mducharmeregexpeditor won the worst interface ever04:34
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Jucatoit's quite old, afaik04:36
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Zamberhow can I bind the windows flag key to the K menu ?04:38
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haraldhello guys, is there someone how can help me with my intel pro wirless 3945?04:39
Zamberharald try #linux04:40
haraldok tnx04:40
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monad_hi, i'm trying to play a dvd on kubuntu and always get a message that no shared css library is loaded, so i manually installed libdvdcss, still i can'T watch dvds04:42
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monad_is there any package i need to install regarding encryption?04:42
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luishola04:43
angasulehas there been a large release of upgraded packages in edgy in the last hours? I have like 30 packages to update, looks like half of kde and xorg04:43
angasule!es04:43
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:43
gerdhello everybody04:43
monad_hi, i'm trying to play a dvd on kubuntu and always get a message that no shared css library is loaded, so i manually installed libdvdcss, still i can'T watch dvds04:43
monad_is there any package i need to install regarding encryption?04:43
gerdcan anybody help me with tainted kernel04:44
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Croupierhey guys how do i unrar programs in ubuntu , the only thing i get from adept is unrar-free and that doesnt do anything04:44
Croupierany other programs to unrar would be nice, i dont know so many names of programs04:45
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gerdunrar is good program why u need any other prog04:46
Jucato!unrar | Croupier04:47
ubotuCroupier: unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free04:47
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JucatoCroupier: install "unrar", not just "unrar-free"04:47
Croupieri dont have unrar  in adept04:47
Croupieri just got unrar free04:47
Jucatoit's in multiverse, you have to enable it04:48
Jucato!multiverse | Croupier04:48
ubotuCroupier: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:48
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slick_nickhi -- i tried moving my home directory to a different partition..when i restarted, KDE told me dcopserver wasn't running because iceauth failed to lock the .ICEauthority file. i've been trying to find a fix for the last hour or so, but no luck...can anyone please help?04:49
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gerdunrar is in multiverse repository04:51
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gerdmultiverse/util section04:51
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BulwinkleHas anyone gotten their builtin laptop SD reader (TI here) to work?04:53
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trappistslick_nick: try deleting your ~/.ICEauthority04:53
slick_nicktrappist: that's the first thing i did :) i did that and then tried running dcopserver manually04:54
slick_nickdidn't work04:54
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trappistslick_nick: ls -ld ~04:55
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slick_nickit's owned by me, permissions are 777 (side efect of this is that i cna't switch between chat and terminal without kdm interrupting...)04:56
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trappistslick_nick: 777 is bad mkay04:56
trappistslick_nick: 750 is good04:57
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slick_nicktrappist: ah, i see...you think that'll fix it?04:57
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trappistslick_nick: don't know, but it's worth a shot and should be done in any case04:58
slick_nicktrappist: ok, thanks...if this doesn't work, i'll probably reinstall (like i said, i've just moved my /home to a new partition, so at least my data's safe...)04:59
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Croupierhey guys i am reading the man for unrar but im not quite getting it05:01
trappistCroupier: unrar x filename.rar05:02
Croupieris the command unrar -e- file.rar correct05:02
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confuscowhen I'm playing Flash videos like youtube or Google video in Firefox, it all loads, but plays only for a few seconds. when I move the seek bar to a different position, it starts playing for a few seconds again, and stops. anybody have an idea?05:02
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trappistconfusco: sounds like you're running out of buffer05:03
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confuscohow can i fix?05:03
trappistconfusco: try pausing it for a minute or so, then hitting play again05:03
confuscono, not that kind of buffer05:03
confuscoI said, it loads completely05:03
confuscofinished loading, still does that05:04
trappistconfusco: oh, that happened to me before.  closing the browser and reopening worked.  it was like flash got mad about having opened so many videos05:04
confuscookay I'll try05:05
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confuscowow you're right05:06
confuscothanks05:06
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trappistconfusco: good deal05:13
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BluesKaj*** WARNING *** : the driver doesn't provide a correct size for memory mapping....WTF ?05:14
BluesKajDVR tries to correct this error, but some strange things may happend, you are warned.05:15
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BluesKajCan't map memory for capture : Invalid argument05:15
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RoKFiTwhy isn't konqueror single click interface?05:23
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Jucatomaybe you changed it?05:24
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RoKFiTi have to double click folders to access them05:26
RoKFiTand i didn't change it05:26
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RoKFiTokay nevermind05:26
RoKFiTi lied05:26
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Dr_willisquintuppleclick!05:28
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Jucatogigaclick05:29
NosstaZenithCan someone help me in changing the look of the login screen, (Edgy 6.10 KuBun.) Tried using the systems settings advanced tool but no joy05:30
Dr_willisInstall some kdm themes,, and   the tool that lets ya change it.. and have a blast. :)05:30
NosstaZenithah ha, chhers05:30
Dr_williskde-kdm-themes - Themes for the K Display Manager05:30
Dr_williskdmtheme - theme manager for KDM05:30
NosstaZenith*cheers05:31
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NosstaZenithI have KDM installed, but cannot find the theme's for it, just installing the artwork05:35
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NosstaZenithwhen I try and change it, it seams to kinda change it, but then it puts the default login theme for edgy over the top05:35
Dr_willisI just installed  kde-kdm-themes kdmtheme, and its showing 4 kdm 'themes' now under the  KDM control center thing.05:36
NosstaZenithmaybe I dont have the right respostories to install it05:37
Dr_willis!info  kde-kdm-themes05:38
ubotukde-kdm-themes: Themes for the K Display Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4-1 (edgy), package size 639 kB, installed size 784 kB05:38
Dr_willis!info kdmtheme05:38
ubotukdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 264 kB05:38
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NosstaZenithta05:38
NosstaZenithI like that little feature05:38
NosstaZenithnever seen that before05:38
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Dr_willischeck out apt:\ in konqueror also. :)05:39
NosstaZenithI am just looking at the res. in adept manager05:39
Dr_willisi thought universe was the default. :)05:40
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NosstaZenithnopes, well I installed 6.06TLS and then did an upgrade05:41
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BluesKajkde-kdm-themes_3.4-1_all.deb05:42
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julleAnyone know if there is a driver or something that enabled me to use my external soundcard box. i have a Creative Audigy 2 Platium eX?05:44
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NosstaZenithI dunno if this will help but in the mixer, there is a switches tab, try playing around with some of those05:47
Dr_willisThats an external Usb sound card eh?05:48
NosstaZenithyeah, firewire I think05:49
NosstaZeniththink that it has a daughter board to connect it all up05:49
Dr_willisHuh? Firewire... ya better check your plugs..05:49
Dr_willisOR are we refering to extra things.. :P05:49
NosstaZenithhehe I dunno, :P I am just getting my problem fixed :P05:50
Dr_willisthere are audigy pci cards with the 'bay' that can internal or external.05:50
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Dr_willisI have a Audigy2zs with an enternal bay. with headset/ins and outs...05:50
Dr_willisinternal bay.05:50
NosstaZenithWell there is a connector on my Audigy for the front panel05:50
Dr_willisIts a PCI sound card then you are saying NosstaZenith ?05:50
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NosstaZenithbut like you say it is internal, but I have seen some of the creative cards use the firewire connector on the back used to connect the external box05:51
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Dr_willisIve not noticed them using firewire for that.. i know my internal bay has 2 cables going to it.. one real wide for the in/outs and one firewiresh for the firewire plug on the bay.05:52
Dr_willisMy card works without the bay attatched. :)05:52
NosstaZenithyeah mine too05:52
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NosstaZenithI dont have a need for the bay05:52
Dr_willisi just plug the speakers in to the card.   The headset port on the front is nice however.05:52
Dr_willisNot tried the remote under linux yet.05:53
NosstaZenithhehe05:53
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NosstaZenithhardly use my headies05:53
NosstaZenithgot nce speakers that do the job05:53
NosstaZenithhaha, there are so many more updates now05:54
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NosstaZenithgot so pissed off with vista last night just wiped my main HD and installed the KBun6.06TLS cd and then upgraded05:55
Dr_willisProberly would of been better to get  an Edgy cd :)05:56
Dr_willisand do a clean install/no upgrade05:56
NosstaZenithyeah, might just download it at work and then burn it off and do full clean install, jst wanted it done like last night :P05:57
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NosstaZenithI like the crystal theme for kde, well nice05:57
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RoKFiTthe ntfs driver ruined all of my music06:00
RoKFiT700 songs06:01
RoKFiTquality songs at that!06:01
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julleRoKFiT: du talking about Ntfs-3G?06:04
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jager|workorly06:05
jager|worknot ready for prime time?06:05
RoKFiTyeah.06:05
jager|workntfs-3g i mean06:05
jager|worki've been meaning to play with it06:05
RoKFiTjulle, i am.06:05
jager|worki want to use it to do virus scans on infected windows hard disks from linux06:05
jager|workbad idea maybe?06:05
RoKFiTi dunno, but all my audio pops06:06
julleRoKFiT: okey i was going to install it yesterday but i am too new to linux so i couldn't even compile it got errors :P06:06
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jager|worklame06:06
alexiconsomething is screwed with the wifi thoughpaste me a pipe someone06:07
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NosstaZenithNope still no joy still overlaying the kubuntu login theme06:08
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NosstaZenith* sigh *06:09
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RoKFiTjulle: i didn't have to compile it06:13
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[GuS] Hi!06:13
RoKFiTbut i do believe it put a lot of pops in my mp3's06:13
mkasterhi06:14
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mkasteri need some help guys06:14
trappistRoKFiT: the files are intact, it's just that the driver kinda sucks so it's not reading it very well06:14
RoKFiTthey're already transfered back to an ext3 drive06:15
RoKFiTthat same drive, just formatted to ext306:15
|GaiJin|haha.... upgraded to edgy a few days ago... and restarted my machine today... and upgraded my packages... and now konqueror won't be found on my system:P06:15
mkasteri have a hard drive with a partition that i found out is GPT Protective Partition, which I found out in windows... How do I get rid of the partition?06:15
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mkasterI want to format it to FAT06:15
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i7chis the (k|u|edu)buntu kernel boot graphics a kernel patch, or is it independent? i ask because i'm compiling a fresh kernel from kernel.org and wondering if i should patch it to make it look nice.06:16
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RoKFiTis the ntfs driver known to cause pops in music like that?06:17
trappistRoKFiT: the medium-latency, non-preemptible kernel is known to cause pops when i/o is dragging, as it often will on ntfs partitions06:18
|GaiJin|RoKFiT: I have a friend who had all his mp3 on a NTFS drive, and suddenly He lost every other of them,....06:18
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RoKFiTtrappist: how do i know if i have a non-preemptible kernel06:19
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trappistRoKFiT: if you're running edgy, you have a non-preemptible kernel06:19
RoKFiTbut it did this with fedora core 606:19
trappistRoKFiT: there's a low-latency kernel package in feisty universe that's basically specifically designed to help this problem06:19
i7chtrappist, any idea re my question?06:19
trappistRoKFiT: don't know anything about fedora's kernels06:20
RoKFiTtrappist: how do i get this kernel06:20
trappisti7ch: I think the nice folks in #ubuntu-artwork can answer that06:20
i7chtrappist, i'll try them06:20
trappistRoKFiT: not sure.  it's probably tricky, without upgrading to feisty, which is probably a bad idea06:21
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RoKFiTmaybe its bad mp3?  some songs actually don't pop!06:22
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trappistRoKFiT: listen to the first 10 seconds or so several times, and see if the pops are in the same places each time06:23
RoKFiTthey are, even when i transfer the files to windows06:24
trappistRoKFiT: for example, higher quality mp3s might pop more, because it has to do more i/o for the same length of audio06:24
trappistRoKFiT: then it sounds like those files are in fact damaged06:24
trappistRoKFiT: but it's very, very unlikely that it was caused by the ntfs drivers06:24
RoKFiTfrom the driver?06:24
trappistno06:24
RoKFiTokay than i feel better06:25
trappistthe ntfs driver is only going to screw things up if you set it read/write, and even then if it screws up it'll usually wreck the whole filesystem06:25
RoKFiTit has to be the audio then06:25
RoKFiTthe files must have been bad from day 106:26
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trappistRoKFiT: yeah, maybe a bad rip.  my whole pink floyd the wall disc 2 is like that :)06:26
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zorglu_q. is there a channel for people coding on ubuntu ?06:26
zorglu_like i would like to compile a programm in static with glibc, and fails to find a ubuntu package supporting that, is there any i miss ?06:28
zorglu_to answer this kind on question :)06:28
RoKFiTwell thanks for the information trappist06:28
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RoKFiTi will definitely start re-downloading06:28
RoKFiTat first i was really mad at linux and that i transfered over06:28
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RoKFiTwell mad at myself06:29
RoKFiTthen i started thinking it must be the files06:29
RoKFiTbecause they all aren't like that06:29
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nibletsI've just upgraded from dapper to edgy.. X won't start. Any ideas where to start?06:39
Dr_willisreconfiure the X server, reinstall the nvidia/ati drivers06:39
nibletsdpkg-reconfigure xorg-server ?06:40
Dr_willissomthing like that.06:40
Dr_willisyou may want to reinstall the video card drivers first06:40
nibletsthen apt-get install xorg-xserver-driver-ati?06:40
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nibletswhat's the difference between xserver-xorg-video-ati and xserver-xorg-driver-ati?06:42
trappistniblets: I believe one is deprecated in favor of the other06:43
nibletstrappist: any ideas which?06:43
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znapper!skype06:44
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto06:44
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trappistniblets: looks like the video one is the new one06:44
nibletstrappist: thanks06:44
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mluser-workDoes anyone know if there is already a repository for the new ati 8.31.5 fglrx drivers?06:49
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majnoon<<installing gnome (bored bored) it DOES have some nice toys06:55
alexiconhow do you manually force a dhcp release06:58
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trappistalexicon: ifdown <device>06:59
trappistor sudo ifdown07:00
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trappistthen ifup07:00
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alexiconok07:01
alexiconi woulda thought eth0 would release the address when i tried to connect the wifi but it didnt07:01
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wildchildhello there, I ha ve problems with updating system. It seems some servers aren't responding or what; paste: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35799/07:04
Dr_willisITs possible the servers are down/overloaded07:04
Dr_willisThats not too uncommon.. sadly.07:04
wildchildso I have to keep trying?07:05
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Dr_williscould chante your sources to point to other servers07:06
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Dr_willisor wait a while07:06
wildchildespecially this repo and server: Could not connect to www.mirrorservice.org:80 (212.219.56.134), connection timed out ; deb http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/koffice-1.6.0/kubuntu edgy main07:06
wildchildDr_Wills: could chante your sources to point to other servers  how?07:07
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wildchildI added 2 repos to get the newest krita07:07
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wildchildfrom koffice07:07
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wildchildand one of them is constantly not responding - server07:08
Dr_willisedit the /etc/apt/sources.list is how i always do it.. if its an non-official server... no idea what other ones to try.07:08
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wildchildit's official., I got it on their site..07:09
Dr_willisofficial from who.. :) not 'ubuntu' official you mean?07:09
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wildchildheh07:10
wildchildoffical from koffice and since koffice isn't in repos of ubuntu... than apperantly isn't official07:10
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kakalto_if I have a theme.kth and I want to install it, how do I?07:15
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mducharmewhere are the icons stored07:17
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Dr_williswhich icons. :)07:18
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Dr_willisthey can be in several places07:18
[1-1-11] ZetiShipIt remains committed to providing free CDs of Kubuntu 6.06 LTS. <- I somehow got 6.10...07:18
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mducharmeKDE's07:20
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galathalionanyone use opera?07:21
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EightiesK!usb07:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:21
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EightiesK!flash07:21
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EightiesK!flashdrive07:21
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RoKFiT!seen intelikey07:22
Zeti[%]  RoKFiT, well... i don't remember seeing [intelikey]  :\ .UPP.07:22
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sparrwfirefox on kubuntu associates pdf with kghostview (which has no search) instead of kpdf...  why?07:22
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RoKFiTroot, lol07:22
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EightiesKhow do i rename my flash drive?07:22
Dr_willisEightiesK,  using edgy?07:22
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FragragDoes anybody know how to open Open Office Word Processor using Alt+F2?07:23
Dr_willisoobase          oocalc          oodraw          ooffice         oofromtemplate  ooimpress       oomath          ooo-wrapper     ooweb           oowriter07:23
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EightiesKno07:23
mducharmeoowriter07:23
EightiesKthe new one07:23
Dr_willisEightiesK,  You mean the Farrting Fawn?07:24
FragragThanks alot Dr_willis07:24
EightiesKi dunno07:25
EightiesKi just updated from worthog07:25
FragragThat's a codename? Farting Fawn?!07:25
EightiesKX-D07:25
EightiesKhow do i find out07:25
EightiesKi just got the cd in the mail07:25
trappistFragrag: it's feisty fawn.07:26
alexiconim trying to install nvidia glx drivers, and when i tyr the enable command i get: Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed07:26
alexiconthe nvidia driver for your running kernel.07:26
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FragragOh, too bad, farting fawn is awesome :p07:26
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Zetinow a bit more detailed07:26
ZetiI ordered a kubuntu via shipit07:27
Zetinow i get a package with a cd07:27
Zetion the package 6.1 is stated07:27
Zetii put the disc into a drive and started it under windows07:27
EightiesKDr_willis: ya edgy07:27
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Zetithe window title says 6.06 Disc Three07:27
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Zetihow can i get definitely which version the cd is?07:28
Dr_willisEdgy Eft is the 'latest' the fawn is the next genreation :P07:28
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Dr_willisEightiesK,  what filesystem is on that usb drive? i  got mine all named. but not sure how i did it.. heh07:28
EightiesKwell is fawn worth the hassle07:28
EightiesKof reinstalling07:29
EightiesKor not yet?07:29
Dr_willis     EightiesK  i would wait on it07:29
EightiesKk cool07:29
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Dr_willisunder media:/  i have the drives shown as their volume lables07:29
Dr_willisunder /media/ they are shown as their mount points07:29
EightiesKI just bought a new flash drive and i need to name it07:29
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Dr_willisWhats it called now?07:30
EightiesKusbdrive07:30
alexiconhow do i check that i have the right version of glx, there really isnt a choice that i see *_*07:30
EightiesKno07:30
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EightiesKusbdisk07:30
Dr_willismy flashdrive gets mounted to        /media/usbdisk        but under media:/  its called  '2.1gbMedia'  :)07:31
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EightiesKlol07:31
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EightiesKwhats the ti83 emulator07:32
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Dr_willisI do have ext3 filesystem on it. and i  used the ext tools to lable the drive that name i think07:32
alexicon!glx07:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:32
alexicon!nvidia07:32
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:32
EightiesKi need mine in fat07:32
EightiesKso i can change from mac to windows to linux07:33
hrp2171!mplayer07:33
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile07:33
notechits just a mount point, it can be named anything07:33
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.07:33
hrp2171!codecs07:33
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:33
alexiconhrp2171: libmpeg3 libxine-extracodecs07:33
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hrp2171alexicon: they dont come up as options to install.  even after enabling all the default repos07:34
monadhi... i have no idea what it was, but after having successfully configured fglrx and running it for two months, it'S awfully broken now07:34
alexiconyou add multiverse apply > fetch updates07:34
Zetithe .disk/info contains Kubuntu 6.10 "Edgy Eft" - Release i386 (20061025)07:34
monadeven running fglrxinfo gives hundreds of lines of [fglrx]  API ERROR:....07:34
Zetiis this info reliable?07:34
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Dr_willisEightiesK,  try rightclickint on that drive icon and properties and change its name. ;)07:35
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wilhartare there repos for kde4 for ubuntu ?07:35
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EightiesKwhat does everyone use for im?07:36
hrp2171alexicon: i take it dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse is not the right one07:36
Dr_willisEightiesK,  IRC :)07:36
EightiesKi mean program07:36
EightiesKi use gaim on all platforms that i use07:36
Dr_willisYou mean what IRC client to people use? thats not the same as an 'im' client07:37
Dr_willisI tend to use xchat for my irc needs07:37
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galathalionhey07:37
galathalionis there any way to get different desktops like in gnome?07:37
mc__galathalion: what do you mean?07:37
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Dr_willisgalathalion,  like in gnome?07:38
galathalionmc__: well in kde u have 4 desktops u can switch between.. but not really.07:38
Dr_willisYou refering to different "Desktop enviroments" like KDE/Icewm/XFCE/?07:38
Dr_willisor virtual desktops...07:38
galathalionmultiple desktops07:38
Dr_willisI have 4 virtual desktops on my KDE setup at the moment.. can easially add more07:38
galathalionDr_willis: yes those are the ones im talking about07:39
galathalionDr_willis: but they are not working as i want to.07:39
Dr_willisup to 20 it seems.. according to the 'configure desktops' applet. :)07:39
Admiral_Chicagohow can i get the PID in konsole for my running programs07:39
Dr_willisgalathalion,  so NOW we are getting to your actual question.........07:39
Dr_willisAdmiral_Chicago,  ps command is oftenused for that.07:39
Dr_williswith the right options. :)07:40
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Admiral_Chicago...i don't have the opntion07:40
Admiral_Chicagoerr know the options07:40
Dr_willisman ps07:40
hrp2171cool! finally got that right!  added the word multiverse next to universe.  LOL07:40
Admiral_ChicagoDr_willis: okay will try07:40
galathalionDr_willis: its a little bit hard to explain with my english :S07:40
Dr_willisi tend to do a 'ps ax | grep whatevername'07:40
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galathalionDr_willis: when i open a program in one desktop it shows on the taskbar in _every_ desktop, i dont want that :<07:41
pentadragohi07:41
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hrp2171thanks alexicon07:41
Admiral_Chicagosystem monitor won out because i'm impatient07:41
Dr_willisgalathalion,  thats a setting in the 'configure taskber' area -- explore all the settings.07:42
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galathalionDr_willis: oh great.. i found it now. thanks07:43
Dr_willismay want to enable the 'show windows list' option . that way you can get to the other apps on other desktops easier.. :)07:44
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Dr_willisbut still have them hidden07:44
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ehirdsometimes i see software never updated since like 200207:47
ehirdand the latest news post is just a regular new release post07:47
ehirdand i think07:47
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ehird"did they just forget about it or something? you know, forget about 3 years of making a WM... yeah... that's right..."07:48
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RoKFiTis there a hotkey to hide the panel07:49
poppemiecan someone help me with warzone for linux it runs but he didn't find the Physicial Fs....07:49
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Dr_willis!info warzone07:50
ubotuPackage warzone does not exist in any distro I know07:50
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Dr_willisHmm07:51
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poppemieyes ubotu it exist07:51
poppemieI Ran it07:51
RoKFiTwhy can't i maximize windows behind a panel, or how do i fix it/07:51
RoKFiT?07:51
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poppemie#warzone07:52
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Dr_willisIn late 2004 warzone was released by its copyright holders, Eidos Interactve, to the public under the GNU General Public License (GPL),07:52
Dr_willisHeh google is fun07:52
poppemiehow do i go to warzone? channel?07:52
Dr_willisRoKFiT,  you mean under the panel?07:52
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poppemieyes07:52
RoKFiTyes07:52
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Dr_willisRoKFiT,  you could just set the panels to auto hide.07:54
Dr_willisothereise you wont be seeing the bottom part.07:54
RoKFiTautohide is somehow annoying07:54
Dr_williswhat you are trying to do sounds just as annoying. :)07:54
lmwhen trying to upgrad my system from dapper to edgy (just got my net back) it gives me the error that it cant fetch following things07:54
lmFailed to fetch http://xgl.compiz.info/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found07:54
lmFailed to fetch http://xgl.compiz.info/dists/dapper/main/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found07:55
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RoKFiTwell i like to flick my mouse to corners to hit spots on windows, but i also like my taskbar up top07:55
Dr_willisRoKFiT,  you havent noticed the 'all other progrmas to cover the panel' setting eh?07:55
trappistlm: xgl.compiz.info is a fairly unreliable repo in my experience07:55
lmi tried playteing around with compiz long time ago and it went sour, and i havent used it since07:55
lmi know07:55
Dr_williswork time for me.. byeeee07:55
lmdidnt get it to work either07:55
lmbut how can i go around this error, so me system upgrades?07:56
lmbecauses it just halts after this error07:56
lmand i cant upgrade07:56
lmany help? i would rather not have to delete the system and install from scratch07:56
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trappistlm: remove xgl.compiz.info from your /etc/apt/sources.list07:58
lmallright ill try07:59
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BluesKajcompiz does damage upon removal , don't use autoremove like i did ...totally screwed the desktop07:59
lmis it enough if i just del the following:08:00
lm#compiz Quinn's08:00
lm   deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz dapper main08:00
lm   deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main08:00
lm   deb-src http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main08:00
trappistlm: yep08:00
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lmok08:00
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lmyeah08:01
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Kresildefixhi08:01
Kresildefixcan someone help me??08:01
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lmthanks for the help no errors... for now :D08:01
BluesKajKresildefix, just ask your question08:02
Kresildefixsure08:02
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Kresildefixi cant use ALTGr08:02
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RoKFiTallow other windows to cover the panel     ....   this option is nice, but when bottom of screen is hit, panel shows.   annoying!08:04
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RoKFiTto me that is a bug08:04
morticianyone here play EVE Online ?08:04
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uphillhi08:05
uphillshort help please08:05
uphillpostgresql-81 hba.conf :)08:05
trappistyou mean pg_hba.conf?08:06
uphilllocal   all         all                               trust08:06
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uphillyes08:06
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trappistwhat's your question08:06
uphilli put locall all all trust in first line, becouse i am the only user on this computer08:06
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uphilland if a want to connexct with 'psql -Upostgres -dtemplate1' it wont work08:07
trappistuphill: try 'psql template1'08:07
trappistuphill: and, define 'wont work'08:07
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uphillit write ident auth fails08:07
trappistuphill: have you restarted postgres?08:08
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uphilland with the cmd you wrote me it writes Role 'root' does not exist08:08
uphilli have restarted08:08
trappistuphill: don't do this as root :)08:08
uphillany user failes08:08
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uphillexcept the postgres user :)08:08
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trappistuphill: can you pastebin your pg_hba.conf?08:09
uphilli will08:09
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uphilloh shit08:11
uphillsorry08:11
trappistlanguage please08:11
malik__hi guyz can some one tell me how to enable the sound icon in the task bar in kubuntu?.i was fiddling with settings n killing system processes n i dont know which one i did wrongly n now its gone.tho i still have the sound n its working.08:12
uphillbut these config file has so much comments that i looked over a line08:12
trappistmalik__: start 'kmix'08:12
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uphillsorry for language08:12
uphilltrappist: thx08:12
trappistuphill: you mean the ident sameuser line for the postgres user?08:12
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malik__oooh lala .worked like charm...thanx heaps guyz08:13
malik__specially to trappist08:13
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malik__one more thing how do i stop the applications from automatically starting which were open b4 i turned off the copmuter, when i login08:15
malik__?08:16
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BluesKajmalik__, you should shut the progs down before turning off the pc08:17
trappistmalik__: in kcontrol or systemsettings, in session management, tell kde to start with an empty session or a previously saved session, but not the last session08:18
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ataxicdoesn't the desktop cd fit on a 700mb cd?08:18
trappistataxic: I sure hope so08:19
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ataxictrying a diiferent disc atm08:19
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malik__great guyz.thanx alot.............i think i am being vindicated in decision of ditching win xp08:20
malik__first of all its free n second thing help channel like this is great08:21
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cloakable:)08:21
malik__i am just a newbie...so dont mind me if i say something silly08:21
ataxiccome on then08:22
ataxicsay something silly08:22
malik__:).......................08:23
vyomananybody knows what todays updates are fixing? anything serious or urgent?08:23
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malik__well there are 54 of them amounting to almost 104 mb08:24
malik__i am currently downloading them08:24
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vyomanc'mon 340+ nicks on the channel and no one can tell me if the updates can wait until monday?08:26
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malik__well if u ask my opinion they can wait till monday but if u are running work computer then better do them now08:27
malik__better be safe than sorry ...........i wud say08:27
vyomantrue true but if the updates break stuff, I could sit here all weekend ;)08:28
bubu1ukwell, updates are mostly for GUI, so dont think anything that important08:29
vyomanthanks guys that all I needed to hear, some support to go home early! :)08:30
malik__updates break things?.................i didnt know that....................im new to linux n i have taken a plunge by ditching win xp............. so if any one can elaborate on that, that will be great08:30
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trappistmalik__: updates *can* break things, but in most cases they don't08:32
vyomanwell it happened only once (this year) but yes it did happen and we need better information on the updates available, to make an informed decision08:33
trappistvyoman: the X updates weren't even for security08:34
malik__oooh okie.................... okie another questioni would like to ask is ......... how do i back up my home directory n restore it in newer version and what is the significance of it.........08:35
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vyomantrappist: todays X updates?08:35
trappistvyoman: right08:36
vyomancool, thanks, i am updating now :)08:37
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Ash-FoxHmm, what's with the X updates? I can't find them in USN? Is there some other mailing lsit I can subscribe to to find out update information?08:41
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Raffashi! i'm using kubuntu 6.10 on my latitude 510. The problem is that i can't see power maganement icon in System settings. Any ideas?08:42
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nemesis4uhello all :-)08:45
nemesis4uCould anyone help me - I am trying to Rar a video 900meg into 50 meg rar files.... how? and is there a gui to do it as well?08:46
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notechmalik__: is /home on its own partition?08:46
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Flosofthey08:48
Flosofthow do I enable XDMCP?08:49
raphinkFlosoft: in kdmrc08:49
Flosoftwhere is that?08:49
raphink /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc08:49
nemesis4uCould anyone help me - I am trying to Rar a video 900meg into 50 meg rar files.... how? and is there a gui to do it as well?08:50
Flosoftok found it :)08:50
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raphinkwhy rar nemesis4u ?08:51
nemesis4uwindows support08:51
nemesis4uwhat else could i use?08:51
raphinkyou can use zip08:51
raphink(or you can ignore windows support and use a real compression format)08:51
nemesis4uwhat is the app called and does it support splitting?08:51
nemesis4u:-) haha08:51
raphinkfor rar, the app is called rar08:52
raphinkfor zip, the app is called zip08:52
nemesis4ugui?08:52
raphink:p08:52
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raphinkark is a gui for all compressions formats08:52
nemesis4uhave you used ark to make multiple splits?08:52
raphinkprovided you have installed rar (free or nonfree) and zip08:52
raphinkno08:52
raphinkI never had too08:52
nemesis4uit does not work08:53
nemesis4uThat is why i am looking for an app that splits the file08:53
raphinkwhat does not work?08:53
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nemesis4uark for splitting08:54
nemesis4uit does not have an option anywhere08:54
nemesis4unor does archive manager08:54
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majnooni have a problem ,php is not running on my apache2 it asks me to DOWNLOAD my index.php filephp08:55
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Raffasmajnoon: is php module loaded?08:55
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majnooni THINK so08:56
majnoonit is in the enabled mods08:56
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brzhi everyone08:57
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mhhello each and every one of u...08:57
majnoonRaffas: how do i make sure ??08:57
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notechthink it requires the php-http package08:59
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mhcan one ask questions here?09:00
majnoongo ahead09:00
notechsure09:00
Raffasmajnoon: http://www.ducea.com/2006/05/30/managing-apache2-modules-the-debian-way/09:00
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Raffasmajnoon: maybe this helps a little :)09:00
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mhhow can one set the dns server from terminal?09:01
jullewhat do i write to delete a folder with subfolders in it?09:01
Raffasbut still, what package creates the power magament icon in system settings?09:01
raphinkmh: set it in /etc/resolv.conf or in /etc/network/interfaces09:01
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notechjulle:  rm -rf but be very careful, there is no way to recover it09:02
Flosofthey09:02
brzummm, can anyone tell me how to switch a default program? what I mean is when I rightclick on a file and chose actions-> email file the system wants to open kmail and I want thunderbird to do it09:02
jullenotech: thx!09:02
Flosoftnow I get this: XDMCP fatal error: Manager unwilling Host unwilling09:02
brzI tried Settings>kde elements (or whatever it is in English)>default programs09:02
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brzbut when the window opens the only thing I can do is click <ok> or <cancel>09:03
brzthe window's blank, sort of09:03
raphinkFlosoft: set Xaccess09:03
majnoonlooking at it09:03
Flosofthow?09:03
mhthanks for answering my first question...the second is why does my harddisk seems to turn on and off while running linux?09:03
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raphinkFlosoft: by using your head09:04
raphink:)09:04
raphinkit's in the same place09:04
raphinkmh: how do you know?09:04
Flosoftlike this: *                                       #any host can get a login window =?09:04
raphinkyes09:04
raphinkunless you want more restriction09:04
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Flosoftok ... now it doesn't get me any login screen :S09:05
mhthe hard ticks and then works then ticks again and only in linux...everything is fine in windows09:06
cpk1what is a "tick"09:07
raphinkwhat are  you doing Flosoft?09:07
cpk1besides the blood sucking insect09:07
raphinkFlosoft: did you restart kdm and tried to log in from another machine using the remote option?09:07
brzanyone? ;] 09:07
FlosoftI want to connect from an old Xubuntu machine to my Kubuntu Laptop09:07
raphinkFlosoft: did you restart kdm on the laptop after changing all this?09:07
Flosoftmaybe because the wifi is to weak?09:07
Flosoftyes09:07
FlosoftI did09:08
Flosoftthe problem is something with the fonts :S09:08
Flosoftand wacom09:08
cpk1brz: use kcontrol09:08
raphinkhmmm09:08
mhwat happens is the system pauses and the hard disk makes a sound (tick) and the system works again...any ideas?09:08
raphinkonly with linux mh?09:09
mhyes only in linux....not even once in windows09:09
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mhthis was happening to me even with mandrake and some other distros09:10
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brzcpk1: it doesn't help09:11
brzI still get the same thing09:12
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unaiHOLA!!!09:12
unaiAlguno puede ayudarme?09:12
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unaiTengo problemas con la tarjeta de red...09:13
unaisoy novato en linux09:13
trappist!pt | unai09:13
ubotuunai: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.09:13
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trappistor is it09:13
trappist!es09:13
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.09:13
trappistcan't tell09:13
angasuletrappist: spanish09:13
trappistangasule: thanks :)09:13
unaiGracias09:14
angasuleyou're welcome09:14
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majnoonno luck09:16
majnoonwill TRY reinstall09:16
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judazHey!09:16
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nibletsjust upgraded dapper>edgy... now kdesu doesn't seem to do anything09:16
judazI need some help with CARD EXPORT II on my TUNGSTEN E2 and mi Kubuntu edgy09:16
judazniblets: i have the same problem, buy I installed Edgy just from de CD.. It may be a bug.. I'm not sure09:17
nibletshmm, interesting.09:17
nibletswhen I apt-get install kdesu, it's referred to by another package, but there's no installation candidate09:18
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malik__.........................09:20
raphinkniblets: kdesu is provided by kdebase-bin09:21
raphink $ dpkg -S /usr/bin/kdesu09:21
raphinkkdebase-bin: /usr/bin/kdesu09:21
mhso no one in the channel had any harddisk problems with linux?09:21
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malik__.......................09:22
unaiAlguno que quiera ayudarme? en kubuntu-es no me contestan09:22
pentadragomh: did you check the dmesg output?09:23
raphinkcon que unai?09:23
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unaihola raphink09:23
raphinkhola09:23
unaitengo problemas con la tarjeta de red09:23
unaiahora mismo estoy con una pcmcia09:23
raphinkmhm09:23
redmonkeyahem?!09:23
unaipero los problemas los tengo con la de la placa09:23
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niblets raphink: weird.. kdebase-bin is installed correctly, apparently09:23
unaime detecta la tarjeta de red, me la configura bien... pero no va.09:24
raphinkde la placa?09:24
unaisi la tarjeta que biene integrada en la placa09:24
mh<pentadrago> the harddisk works just fine but it pauses (turns off) and reruns again..09:24
raphinksure niblets, what's the issue?09:24
|GaiJin|hmmm... are there any programs in linux that can use yahoo widgets??09:24
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pentadragomh: no problems with other OSes?09:25
unairaphink te importaria explicarmelo?09:25
raphinkunai: puede ver la tarjeta con ifconfig?09:25
mh <pentadrago> this problem didnt happen to me with any version of windows09:25
nibletsraphink: when running kdesu, I get xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused09:26
pentadragomh: sorry, i have no clue09:26
unaisi09:26
unaiy aparentemente todo esta bien09:26
nibletsno protocol specified09:26
mh<berniee> hey dude09:26
judazhey, does anybody know how to make CARD EXPORT II FOR PALM OS work on edgy eft?09:26
bernieemh:hehe tha link didnt work09:27
raphinkunai: wifi o ethernet red?09:27
mh <berniee> wat does it say?09:27
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mh <pentadrago> could it be the dual sharing that cuzes this problem?09:27
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chimaeraspeaking a language other than the channel-default might be considered rude. pls query or join the appropriate channel for that language, thanks.09:28
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mh<berniee> wat does it say dude?09:29
unairaphink, es ethernet integrada en placa... Portatil Acer aspire 160009:29
pentadragomh: sorry, I don't know it, some strange energy save mode?09:29
bernieeit says deleted..09:29
trappistunai: /join #ubuntu-es por favor09:30
mh<berniee> i hope i will find some other link...hold on...09:30
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trappistunai: #ubuntu es por ingles no mas09:30
trappistor is that para09:31
unaiesque ahi nadie me ayuda!!!09:31
judazunai: que drama tenes?09:31
unaisino un privado...09:31
unaiProblemas con la targeta de red09:31
unaiEn un portatil09:31
trappistjudaz: please encourage unai to take the conversation to #kubuntu-es09:31
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raphinktrappist: no one helps him on #ubuntu-es09:31
trappistraphink: then judaz should join him there09:31
judaztrappist: Ok.. ill do that, the thing is that there is nobody there...09:31
unaijudaz, quieres explicarmelo en un privado? que estos se mosquean conmigo...09:32
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trappistjudaz: so meet him there!09:32
judaztrappist: haha, i'm just a newbie, I don't know what to do..09:32
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trappistjudaz: nobody else here speaks spanish.09:32
trappistthis is an english channel.09:32
judazunai: entra a ubuntu-es09:32
raphinkjudaz: let's join both of us09:32
unaiok09:32
raphinkand we can try it09:32
judazhe says he has a problem with his ethernet on his laptop09:33
pentadragomh: nothing mentioned in the system logs? did you try checking the hdd with smart?09:33
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yeloneksooo09:34
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yeloneki got kubuntu09:34
yelonek:P09:34
yelonekwhat is interesting in this system ?09:34
trappistyelonek: depends what you like to do09:35
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yelonekback in 90's i used to play with dos prompt line09:35
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yelonekbut i can't figure out any linux commad09:36
cpk2haha linux command line is nothing like dos prompt09:36
yelonek*command09:36
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redmonkeyif you just wanna play go back to windows:)09:36
yelonekso i see ;p09:36
cpk2you dont really need to use a terminal in ubuntu =)09:36
yelonekis there anything like Linux prompt for dummies ?09:36
unix_infidelyelonek: you'd be surprised how similar linux is to a dos command line.09:37
trappistyelonek: http://www.pixelbeat.org/cmdline.html09:37
icheynehow do I find out exactly what type of RAM I need to buy to upgrade my PC?09:37
pentadragowhoo, the terminal (running bash of courde) is so much more powerful than the dos prompt09:37
cpk2a normal joe user should be able to be pretty terminal free09:37
unix_infideli use unx utils in cmd and powershell regularly.09:37
icheyneI have tried lshw but it does not give me enough info09:37
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trappisticheyne: you'll probably get better and more complete answers to that in #hardware09:37
cpk2icheyne: you could just look at the stick09:37
trappistI don't think linux is aware of the kind of ram your pc has/needs09:38
unix_infidelicheyne: bios should tell you what its rated at.09:38
icheynetrappist: hmm. What do you suggest - short of opening my box?09:38
icheynethe ram itself has nothing written on it09:38
cpk2icheyne: try sudo lshw09:38
icheyneI have looked for my mobo manual, but I can't find it09:38
trappisticheyne: I don't have anything short of opening your box, but the #hardware fellas might09:38
yelonekyeah, i know i should be terminal free09:38
eilker i am gonna have  a dedicated server for my web sites, thinking of installing ubuntu-server, but i dont know how to manage it, because there will be no gui, scare of it...any experience with no gui envoriment ?09:39
yelonekbut i wanted to get grip of basics09:39
unix_infidelicheyne: go into bios.09:39
yelonekty trappist09:39
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cpk2icheyne: actually it looks like sudo lshw still doesnt tell you the speed09:39
trappistyelonek: there's no virtue in being terminal-free :) the command line is your friend09:39
yelonekwell, that's why i got kubuntu not any other linux09:39
yeloneki wanted it to be easy to use09:40
cpk2and i dont think i have seen a stick yet that doesnt have anything written on the stick09:40
unix_infidelyelonek:  I asked the same questions long ago.  "Getting started" with command line and reading about it....09:40
trappistyelonek: me too - but sometimes you can get more done on the command line.  it's good stuff to know.09:40
unix_infidelis REALLY no subsitute for finding a genuine use for it.09:40
unix_infideland then practicing its usage.09:40
cpk2you could try a different distro that pretty much requires cli knowledge09:40
cpk2like slackware09:41
cpk2hooray!09:41
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unix_infidelThere's no need for that.  It'll teach you how to setup a linux system, not how to use it.09:41
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redmonkeyarchlinux09:41
yeloneki'm not that interested in linux :P09:41
yeloneki just read an article about police knocking on some ppl door ;)09:41
yelonekchecking if they got legal software09:42
yeloneki'm getting angry at microsoft09:42
yelonekcause there were rumors that they provided data about ppl who were checked09:42
yelonekofcourse that wasn't true09:43
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yelonekbut the spokesman for ms "didn't confirm or denied"09:43
redmonkeyuhm is this a linux channel? :)09:44
cpk1##linux09:44
yeloneki got my xp with new computer09:44
yelonekand can get another one with msdn for free09:44
unix_infidelyelonek: That's besides the point.  You should spend your time using your OS.09:44
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lenscapeYou've got to be stubborn or a bit dim to use Windows these days09:45
yelonekwhy ?09:45
yelonekxp is actually easy to use09:45
yeloneki got used to it09:45
lenscapebecause Linux is so much better and ALL the software is free!09:45
yelonekbut i want to get used to linux ;p09:45
cpk1yelonek: i would suggest just trying to do mundane things with the command line to get used to it09:45
trappistlenscape, yelonek: this stuff is great for #kubuntu-offtopic, but this is a support channel09:45
cpk1do things like mv cp and rm09:46
eilkerhi,  i am gonna have  a dedicated server for my web sites, thinking of installing ubuntu-server, but i dont know how to manage it, because there will be no gui, scare of it...any experience with no gui envoriment ?09:46
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unix_infideleilker: most all production servers are non-gui09:46
trappisteilker: plenty.09:46
lenscapetrappist: I was helping a misguided soul!09:47
reckiemwhat stops u from using a GUI?09:47
icheyne!offtopic09:47
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:47
unix_infidelRemember, most if not all gui applications use the REVERSE dogma of what you've been exposed to.09:47
eilkerunix_infidel: yes i know, but no experience with it, and scary...09:47
unix_infideleilker: why, this is open source.  documentation is REALLY GOOD for server side software.09:48
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yelonektrappist, so i better move to offtopic, thx09:48
trappistyelonek: thank you09:48
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redmonkeyeilker: is you are scared better ask someone to set up the server for you09:49
redmonkeyerr, if09:49
eilkerunix_infidel: where is the documantation for it? inside the os ? (ubuntu-server)09:49
cpk1eilker: man programtoreadabout09:49
eilkerredmonkey: that will not be my choice, i am gonna do it09:49
unix_infideleilker: That depends on the specific server side stuff.09:49
trappisteilker: there's lots of documentation that ships with the various applications (web and database servers, etc.) and there's a lot more online.09:49
trappisteilker: there's also the ubuntu server guide09:49
redmonkeyeilker: good luck09:50
cpk1eilker: there is nothing stopping you from using a gui to set up your server09:50
eilkertrappsit: i have already read it..09:50
unix_infidelSide Note: #ubuntu-classroom will be hosting a session SPECIFICALLY devoted to Linux Administration.09:50
unix_infideleilker: you might find that worth sitting in on.09:50
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cpk1unix_infidel: when?09:51
eilkerunix_infidel: thanx for it, i didnt know that room before09:51
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eilkerpeople i have already dns server, mail server, web server, ftp server , i tried for those in kubuntu, i09:52
eilkerbut i feel strange in no-gui enviroment...09:52
jbruckmanhas anyone seen the image of firefox melting IE with a flamethrower?09:53
trappisteilker: if you want to admin a server, you really need to learn your way around the command line and text-based config files and such09:53
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yannickhi09:54
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eilkertrappist: can i use ssh in non-gui ?09:54
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cpk1of course you can09:54
gescsalve09:54
trappisteilker: of course :)09:54
ganjhackQuelqu'un parle-il franais sur ce canal ?09:54
trappist!fr | ganjhack09:55
ubotuganjhack: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:55
ganjhacktks09:55
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eilkertrappist: i use linux since september :d so that i dont know too much :)09:56
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trappisteilker: well, like I said, if you want to admin a server, it's time to learn :)09:57
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lupulhi there. is there anyway to make ATI driver run correctly on edgy?09:58
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lupul!video driver09:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about video driver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:58
trappistlupul: in what way is it running incorrectly09:58
trappist!ati | lupul09:59
ubotulupul: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:59
lupulk thanks09:59
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eilkertrappist: life is in /etc... for linux, am i right ?10:00
Bulwinkleis there any way to get newer kernel and modules (i'm running 2.6.17-10-generic10:00
trappisteilker: config files, yeah10:00
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trappistBulwinkle: they generally don't put out new versions of kernels mid-release.  you'd have to look at feisty, which is unreleased and unstable, but where you'll find 2.6.19 kernels10:01
trappistBulwinkle: or of course you could roll your own10:02
Bulwinkletrappist: Been there, done that, failed miserably10:02
trappistif at first you don't succeed...10:02
chimaeraBulwinkle: ss: you did something wrong..10:02
Bulwinkletrappist: don't blow up your laptop again :)10:02
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Bulwinklechimaera: obviously...  There are a couple of fixes to a couple of modules I'd like to get incorporated into my system10:03
BulwinkleEasy way to do that?10:03
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chimaeraBulwinkle: a) use proper documentation on ho to build a kernel on debian/ubuntu. b) google for inofficial kernel-repos, might also want to check the ubuntu wiki10:04
Bulwinklechimaera: thanks for the help!10:04
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BulwinkleI'll probably just wait until feisty isn't so feisty10:05
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chimaeraBulwinkle: actually, i didn't help in any way.10:05
Bulwinkleits only 4 months away10:05
Bulwinklechimaera: I've seen you around, you usually don't... :)10:06
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chimaeraBulwinkle: well, i don't think you have, but anyways.10:06
trappistnow, now.10:06
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Bulwinkle:)10:07
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angasule!skim10:11
ubotuskim: smart common input method platform for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1216 kB, installed size 2620 kB10:11
velleis it generally possible to open a file on a remote server from a program, using ssh? e.g. "myprogram myserver.dk:file.txt" (or something like that)? this would be an alternative to running ssh -X and executing the program on the remote server, which requires fast internet connections10:11
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chimaeravelle: as long as an kio_slave exists for that type, it shoukd be possible.10:12
trappistvelle: yes10:12
angasulevelle: yes, use the fish protocol, for example, in konqueror, put: fish://server.com  then you can log in, and open any file as if it were local10:12
vellehow? (and im not hard core enough to know what a kio_slave is :) )10:12
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Frederickfolks how do I add the trash icon to my desktop?10:13
trappistvelle: I just say ForwardX11 yes in my ~/.ssh/config, then ssh <host> <command>10:13
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velletrappist: is that the same as ssh -X, or ...?10:14
pedrocakubuntu br10:14
pedrocacomo acesso?10:14
trappistvelle: ForwardX11 yes is, yeah10:15
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trappist!pt | pedroca10:15
ubotupedroca: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.10:15
MalfermitaKodoHi10:15
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MalfermitaKodoCan someone help me to make the < and > key work?10:16
velletrappist: but that requires a fast connection, and I dont have one, thats the prob :) and that way I need to have the application installed on the remote comp as well10:16
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trappistvelle: I like to use -c blowfish for that, because blowfish is a perfectly secure but much faster compression algorithm than the default, so it's faster for gui stuff10:16
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trappistvelle: well yeah.  that goes for any remote gui stuff (except maybe rdesktop)10:17
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Dan_Edinhow do i install the base build only from the ordinary shipit cds of ubuntu dapper?10:17
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Dan_Edinin 5.10 i just typed server at bootup. But that option seems to not be available in dapper10:18
trappistDan_Edin: don't quote me on it, but I think it's available on the 'alternate install cd'10:18
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Dan_Edintrappist not on the deafult cds?10:19
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trappistDan_Edin: no10:20
Dan_Edincrap10:20
Dan_Edinwhy did they remove that? it was a really cool feature10:20
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trappistDan_Edin: it was sacrificed for features they figure most people will find even cooler10:21
trappistDan_Edin: but I believe it is still available on the alternate cd10:21
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MalfermitaKodoCan someone help me to make the < and > key work?10:23
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MalfermitaKodoI c'n'ped this, but it's really annoing not the have them10:23
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FragragHow do I get streaming video on MPlayer?10:25
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Fragragwait, nevermind, I didn't read good enough??10:25
Fragrag..*10:26
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Dasnipa`what do you mean MalfermitaKodo ?10:27
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vellethe fish protocol (files transfered over shell) isnt a kde thing right? its general i think?10:29
cccMalfermitaKodo: you can set your keyboard in system settings > regional & language > keyboard layout10:29
MalfermitaKodoyes, not helping10:29
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MalfermitaKodoI have German, Esperanto and Latvian setting10:30
MalfermitaKodoin all, this key is not working10:30
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fon_Zograf  ?10:32
cccMalfermitaKodo: it must be set wrong then, it's probably set as something different than a 105-key or whatever you use.10:33
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MalfermitaKodoccc: I set it as the same as I did before10:35
moS-uu#ubuntu.de10:36
moS-uu#ubuntu-de10:36
moS-uuoops10:37
MalfermitaKodo!de | MalfermitaKodo10:37
ubotuMalfermitaKodo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:37
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moS-uumensch10:37
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angasulecan anyone tell me how to get skim to work?10:38
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NecrosHas anyone tried installing Automatix on Herd 1?10:46
LjL!automatix10:47
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe10:47
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MalfermitaKodo!WorksForMe10:47
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.10:47
NecrosUmm.. I'm not sure anyone running Herd 1 is looking for stability.10:48
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luishola10:48
Jucatohm... seems that easyubuntu is a bit (just a bit) more favored than automatix?10:49
TheDebuggerIs it soooo hard to follow the guides on the website?10:49
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NecrosNo, its just much, much faster to easyubuntu/automatix10:50
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Jucatoyes, much faster to possibly break your system too :) (at least when upgrading comes...)10:50
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NecrosI fresh install.. that way, I'm never searching for breaks10:51
NecrosI build too much from source, and then the kernel gets all out of wack...10:51
NecrosAh well...10:51
Schuenemannhi, how do I install the amsn IM I just downloaded? file name is amsn-0.96-2.tcl84.x86.package10:51
NecrosI'll do it the hard way10:51
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Schuenemannanyone?10:53
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MalfermitaKodoSchuenemann: .package????10:56
Schuenemannhow do I install a .package file?10:56
MalfermitaKodoI have NEVER heard of that10:56
Schuenemannyeah...10:56
Schuenemannit's supposed to work in any distro10:57
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MalfermitaKodorun a "file amsn-0.96-2.tcl84.x86.package" in shell10:58
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Schuenemannhow do I do that? ./amsn-0.96-2.tcl84.x86.package ?10:58
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RiddellKubuntu meeting time, in #ubuntu-meeting10:59
Schuenemannhow do I run a shell script when it asks for su?11:00
MalfermitaKodoCan someone please tell me how I can correctly set my keyboard layout?11:00
julleis there any quicktime plugin availible for kubuntu? and wmp plugin 4 firefox?11:00
yeloneksu = superuser ?11:01
Schuenemannyes11:01
Schuenemann./filename says permission denied11:02
MalfermitaKodosu scriptname?11:02
trappistSchuenemann: sudo sh filename11:02
MalfermitaKodoright, sh, forgot that11:02
trappistnot su11:02
Schuenemannme too... thank you11:02
Schuenemannsudo11:02
Jucato!sudo11:03
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.11:03
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MalfermitaKodoone key is contantly not working :(11:03
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MalfermitaKodoreally annoys me :/11:05
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yelonekwhat repository should i add to get gnuplot ?11:07
Jucato!gnuplot11:08
ubotugnuplot: A command-line driven interactive plotting program. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.0.0-3 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB11:08
Jucatoyelonek: ^^^11:08
SchuenemannMalfermitaKodo: did you select the correct language and layout?11:08
julleIs there anyone who knows how to install mplayer webplugin?11:08
yelonekwell, i still don't know ;p11:08
yelonekw811:08
yeloneki'm getting it ;p11:08
MalfermitaKodoyes, the program tells me it uses "setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout de -variant ro_nodeadkeys"11:08
Jucato" In component universe,..."11:09
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yelonekJucato: yeah, but how to to this ? ;) now i know11:09
yelonekJucato: "uncomment following two lines to get ... from universe" gave me a tip11:10
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yelonekwell, i did that11:12
yelonekbut can't find gnuplot anyway11:12
MalfermitaKodoah I think I can make it no11:12
MalfermitaKodo<|>11:12
Jucatoyelonek: Edgy or Dapper?11:14
yelonekEdgy11:14
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Jucatohm.. universe should be enabled already by default11:14
Jucatohow are you trying to install it?11:14
bthibaultanybody know how to get the google toolbar to work11:15
bthibaultFF 2.011:15
yeloneki run Adept Manager11:15
yelonekwith root rights11:15
yelonekthen i uncommented two lines under string: "uncomment to get universe"11:16
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yelonekafter that apply, close11:16
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yelonekthen search: gnuplot11:16
yelonekafter that just plot11:16
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Jucatoyou have to click on "Fetch Updates"11:17
Jucatofirst11:17
yelonekand it finds kmplot and sth with perl11:17
yeloneklol, that easy ? ;)11:18
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MalfermitaKodooh, BTW: what can I use now to install stuff?11:19
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MalfermitaKodoDo I really need to get used to synaptic?11:19
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Jucatoyelonek: were you able to find it?11:20
cpk1how do you check if dma is enabled or not again?11:20
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redmonkeywith hdparm11:21
yelonekJucato: i'm still dling11:21
Jucatook11:21
redmonkeybut dont ask me for the parameters.. just man hdparm11:21
Jucatoheh11:21
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cpk1thats what i've been doing... i was hoping there was an easy to read config file11:23
Jucato(google)11:23
Jucatosudo hdparm -d /dev/xxxx I think11:24
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trappistand -d1 to turn it on11:24
ehird:/ nedit won't start on kubuntu11:25
ehirdX Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)11:25
ehird  Major opcode of failed request:  70 (X_PolyFillRectangle)11:25
ehird  Serial number of failed request:  38211:25
ehird  Current serial number in output stream:  39211:25
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yelonekthanks Jucato, i found gnuplot and even more11:25
Jucatonp :)11:26
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cpk1hmm -d didnt output anything...11:26
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trappistcpk1: what was the exact command you used11:28
cpk1trappist: sudo hdparm -d /dev/sda111:28
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redmonkeysometimes i ask myself why there are manpages at all..11:28
trappistcpk1: I don't think hdparm works on scsi devices, but if it does, you need sda not sda111:28
Jucatoredmonkey: they are there for admins :)11:29
redmonkeyoh well, bye11:29
redmonkey;)11:29
trappistcpk1: that is, dma applies to the drive, not the partition11:30
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cpk1hmm yeah maybe it doesnt work for sata, it says it only works for ata/ide11:30
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cpk1but i can still set my root mount i suppose11:31
cpk1is -d supposed to output anything?11:31
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trappistcpk1: yes, if you run it against an ide drive11:34
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cpk1wow, if these buffer tests are to be trusted my sata is a bit faster than my ide (more than i would have expected)11:35
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rindolfHi all.11:36
Schuenemannusing konqueror to list a local directory, how do I make it list hidden files?11:36
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ehirdhmm11:36
ehirdi've found a bug in the package dependencies11:36
rindolfCan anyone see if he or she can reproduce http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=27528 ?11:36
ehirdvim and emacs don't cause a collision :)11:36
ehirdit's possible to have them both installed at the same time11:37
ehird:D11:37
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JucatoSchuenemann: View menu -> Show Hidden Files11:37
Schuenemannthat was really a silly question11:38
Schuenemannthanks11:38
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max_how do you partition off part of your harddrive to do a dual boot?11:44
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yelonekmeh, command line isn't my forte11:46
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yelonekxp killed my prompt line skills ;)11:46
max_haha11:46
max_ive never used XP11:47
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max_i used 98 when i did use Win11:47
yelonekyeah, i used 98 too, then i turned to the dark side11:48
yelonekwhich was comfortable, but made me lazy11:48
max_haha11:48
max_i think its funny how microsoft is screwing itself over with Vista11:48
max_the lasthing i heard about Vista was its "User Friendly Generic Error Messages" where every error displays the same screen, so it dosnt give you a clue to whats wrong11:49
rindolfmax_: can you try to reproduce http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=27528 on Kubuntu?11:51
reckiemfake linux integrism11:51
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DrCubHow are you supposed to start KDE?11:52
max_rindolf: i cant help you, i dont know anything about that11:53
leileilollstartx?11:53
DrCubI tried, it didn't start11:53
DrCubIt gave me an error11:53
rindolfmax_: anything about what?11:53
DrCubIt said No screens sound11:53
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max_rindolf: kmail11:54
rindolfmax_: OK.11:54
Dan_Edinis there a netinstall iso of ubuntu somewhere?11:54
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DrCubIt also says No device is detected11:56
yelonekthx for your help11:56
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max_anyone ever used Mint Linux?11:58
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heinkel_111how on earth do i find out what kernel i really am using? i mean how, in kubuntu?12:02
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heinkel_111uname -r just prints out version number and then "generic"12:02
heinkel_111in dapper i used to get which processor type was attached as well12:03
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heinkel_111ie, i686, i386 etc12:03
angasuleheinkel_111: uname -a12:03
angasuleheinkel_111: man uname, too12:03
heinkel_111thank yiou :)12:05
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angasuleyou're welcome12:06
flaccidgood old kubuntu12:07
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MalfermitaKodoWhy does it no longer find adept?12:07
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DrCubNot to be rude or anything, but can you guys please answer the question I asked, I'm in a bit of a hurry12:08
MalfermitaKodostartx kde12:08
MalfermitaKodoor what?12:08
DrCubshould I try that?12:09
MalfermitaKodoif you are in text-ode, yes12:09
Jucatostartkde12:09
MalfermitaKodo*mode12:09
DrCubok thanks12:09
mducharmeDrCub: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart12:09
DrCubhold on I'll try it12:09
Jucatomducharme's answer is more correct, afaik12:09
DrCubok12:10
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aileandoesn't /proc/pci exist any more?12:12
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angasuleailean: /proc/bus/pci ?12:13

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