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| Dark_Anakin | hello | 08:13 |
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| Lure | mjg59: are suspend regressions on feisty known (HP nw8240)? | 09:49 |
| mjg59 | Lure: I lack the time to keep track of every bug, I'm afraid :) | 09:49 |
| mjg59 | Lure: If it's in Launchpad, then yes. If not, then no. | 09:50 |
| Lure | mjg59: ok, I will check and submit my data | 09:50 |
| mjg59 | Lure: No PM stuff other than the kernel has changed, so file it against that | 09:51 |
| Lure | mjg59: thanks, will do | 09:51 |
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| Solarion | any recommendation for power saving on a notebook? It seems to suck power much faster than it used to under a different linux. | 10:30 |
| jldugger | cpufreq on? | 10:31 |
| Solarion | define "on". It switches around on cpu speed, depending on load. | 10:32 |
| jldugger | well, clocks down on idle is fine enough | 10:32 |
| Solarion | heya jldugger | 10:32 |
| jldugger | you can set it always low if you're desperate | 10:32 |
| Solarion | I just wish I knew where the drain was | 10:32 |
| jldugger | hey | 10:32 |
| === Solarion is Trelane from gnome | ||
| jldugger | i vaguely knew that | 10:33 |
| Solarion | actually, I'm solarion from gnome too, but not on irc. ;) | 10:33 |
| Solarion | wonder if it's the r300 driver? | 10:33 |
| jldugger | #k-slug | 10:33 |
| Solarion | oh, that too | 10:33 |
| jldugger | thats where i primarily know you | 10:33 |
| Solarion | heh | 10:33 |
| Solarion | anyhow, any ideas? | 10:34 |
| jldugger | backlight | 10:34 |
| jldugger | hard drive | 10:34 |
| Solarion | nah, that's pretty much the same. | 10:34 |
| Solarion | hard drive might be spun up more | 10:34 |
| jldugger | tickless kernel | 10:34 |
| Solarion | that's probably in feisty+1 | 10:34 |
| jldugger | remove CDs from the drive | 10:34 |
| jldugger | turn off stuff you don't use like bluetooth | 10:35 |
| Solarion | 2.6.19 has some infrasturcutre, but it looks like the actual tickless patches didn't make it | 10:35 |
| Solarion | I wonder if network-manager is part of the problem | 10:35 |
| Solarion | is there an easy bt on/off switch? | 10:35 |
| jldugger | there is on mine ;) | 10:35 |
| jldugger | its right next to the microphone | 10:35 |
| Solarion | jldugger: what is it? | 10:35 |
| jldugger | its a hardware switch :P | 10:36 |
| Solarion | ah, in bios? | 10:36 |
| Solarion | LAME. ;) | 10:36 |
| Solarion | given that networkmanager keeps both cards fired up, I wonder if that's the drain | 10:36 |
| jldugger | there's also an Fn-button combo that optionally switches off wifi/bt/both | 10:36 |
| jldugger | well, the new gnome has a nice power manager tool | 10:37 |
| Solarion | new? | 10:37 |
| jldugger | you can watch a graph of power usage over time | 10:37 |
| jldugger | new-ish to me | 10:37 |
| Solarion | 2.16? | 10:37 |
| jldugger | yea | 10:37 |
| Solarion | oh, hey. there it is. | 10:38 |
| jldugger | Solarion from Gnome, you say? | 10:38 |
| Solarion | well, my userid | 10:38 |
| Solarion | I'm Trelane on irc.gnome.org. | 10:38 |
| jldugger | im just teasing you about not finding it before i did | 10:39 |
| Solarion | ah | 10:39 |
| === Solarion waves his hand dismissively | ||
| jldugger | one thing to note is that the prediction isnt very linear | 10:40 |
| jldugger | as time goes on estimate time kinda goes up | 10:40 |
| Solarion | like an exp modeled linear, yes | 10:40 |
| jldugger | im sure you computational physicists know more about what kind of regression it is | 10:41 |
| Solarion | pfft | 10:41 |
| === jldugger waves his hand dismissively | ||
| === Solarion waves his dismissive handily | ||
| jldugger | anyways, my laptop idles around something like 20W | 10:41 |
| Solarion | did you see the battery recall notifier? | 10:41 |
| Solarion | talk about awesome | 10:41 |
| jldugger | ? | 10:42 |
| jldugger | cant say i did | 10:42 |
| Solarion | someone hacked in battery recall notification. Basically called the community to send in info from recalled and non-recalled batteries, and got gnome-power-manager to notify you if your battery may be recalled. | 10:42 |
| Solarion | looks like mine idles at around 20W too | 10:42 |
| jldugger | wonder how low it got in your other distro | 10:43 |
| Solarion | it was gentoo. I dunno. | 10:43 |
| Solarion | I had maxed out some stuff too | 10:43 |
| jldugger | if you think it's r300, try switching to vesa and see if that gets you anywhere | 10:44 |
| Solarion | I'd rather run r300. :) | 10:44 |
| Solarion | I'm thinking it might be networkmanager + hard drive | 10:44 |
| jldugger | you can at least rule it out :P | 10:44 |
| Solarion | one is more readily solvable by me than the other | 10:44 |
| Solarion | and if I get *one* more notificaton pop up and seize input, I'm gonna strangle it | 10:44 |
| jldugger | yea, network manager isn't quite finished | 10:45 |
| jldugger | really hates suspend in edgy | 10:45 |
| Solarion | it's awesome, but it should go lower power. :( | 10:45 |
| jldugger | and the damn keyring | 10:45 |
| Solarion | I've not had much problem, save one weird case where it was eating cpu until the next suspend-resume | 10:46 |
| Solarion | yes, keyring is annoying | 10:46 |
| jldugger | maybe it was hibernate, but it totally tanks on one of those | 10:46 |
| Solarion | I think I fixed it for me | 10:47 |
| Solarion | can't find devices and stuff | 10:47 |
| === Solarion hasn't had a problem since | ||
| jldugger | well, im one of those evil nvidia users, so it really doesn't matter too much whether suspend works or not | 10:47 |
| Solarion | heh | 10:48 |
| Solarion | you're not evil | 10:48 |
| Solarion | a fool, but not evil... ;) | 10:48 |
| === Solarion is a foolish ati user. | ||
| jldugger | here's hoping neauvou works out | 10:48 |
| Solarion | yep | 10:48 |
| jldugger | so you think that network manager is somehow setting your wifi signal strength too high? or just running too often? | 10:52 |
| ajmitch | might be causing things to scan too often | 10:54 |
| Solarion | scan too often. It'd be nice if it'd just power down a card if the other's being used. It'd also be nice if g-p-m would set the cards to low-pwer mode. | 11:00 |
| jldugger | a card? | 11:01 |
| Solarion | yes | 11:01 |
| jldugger | just how many are in that laptop? | 11:01 |
| Solarion | 2 | 11:01 |
| Solarion | 1 builtin ipw2100, one pcmcia atheros | 11:02 |
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